Comfy Janus/Lilaethan edition>What is /rtg/?This general is dedicated to the discussion of Warhammer 40k: Rogue Trader.>News:Apr 19 Post-release Grand Surveyhttps://store.steampowered.com/news/app/2186680/view/4177726963574861662Apr 18 Patch 1.1.58https://store.steampowered.com/news/app/2186680/view/4177726963570447608Feb 19 Patch 1.1.28 adding voiceovers, content, bug fixeshttps://store.steampowered.com/news/app/2186680/view/7951737850176211614Feb 01 OSThttps://store.steampowered.com/news/app/2186680/view/4061752300809918943Dec 07 Warhammer 40,000: Rogue Trader – Released:https://store.steampowered.com/news/app/2186680/view/3870344243019406362Previous: >>474417865
>>474862341You can do at least 1 playthrough per alignment or more with variations, personally I ended up replaying it a bunch of times doing mostly the same things just trying to get better outcomes on some quests and character plotlines.
>>474876659Does it matter picking one? I’ve been picking an even mix
>>474873878you can upgrade a skill twice every archetype same with stats
>no Ogryn origin>no Explorator alternate story
>>474877767That's also an option and can end up as its own ending. Really just roleplay what you want, once alignment hits 3 you can't advance the others past 2 and you get "locked in" to that alignment in some ways (ending mostly) and having even more points in it can be useful when you eventually get checks for higher alignment levels. But you can just as well keep them all below 2 which eventually gets you the neutral version of the ending so just pick what you like.
>>474878337below 3*
>>474877820Right so that means I maxed her guns, why would I respec her if that’s the highest her accuracy goes right now?
>>474879203you can get her talents like rapid fire and the bolter one, also some perceptionone thing people miss with argenta is you shouldn't shoot in a random cone, try to aim at an enemy even if it's on burst you get better chance to hit
>tells a young guy to deal with his problems>he goes and kills everyone and himselfbit sad
I would like a mod to change all mentions of Aeldari and Drukhari to Eldar and Dark Eldar
>>474843007They DON'T have the technology, half the Yoke was from plunging an entire planet into Chaos and getting a bunch of tech priests killed to make the thing. The other half was made by a haemonculus which needed a serious alliance with a deldar kabal which fell through by the end and he had to steal the probably unfinished half of the Yoke which he now can't fix or maintain without begging the drukhari again. And he would have died even getting to the shard without you saving his ass and gets killed soon after when he goes to look for more shards even if you do everything for him. It's a terrible idea overall.
Good morning, I want a threesome with Yrliet and Cassia.
Would a melee only run on hardest difficulty be possible?
>>474882964I'd use it, though some of it is voiced so bit of a problem there
What are the things you wished you knew the first time you played the game?>Cassia navigator powers are OP so you're better off not building her as an officer and just spamming those>Idira range and secondary damage talents are insanely useful especially for annoying act 1 fights>a planet in the Omicron system very early on in the game gives you the item to make you (or rather Argenta) never miss with bolters >order of planets matters in act 1 but not in 2 so there's no point to searching for Kiava Gamma before Dargonus>make Argenta into an AM Yrliet assassin and Idira bounty hunter>it's better to hoard Navigator points for later than use it on making early routes safer
>>474886878I want a hug with Yrliet and wedding with Cassia
I really liked Yrliet's romance. It's cute.
>>474886878>Princess gets horny from Lord Captain slightly touching her during shuttle flight>Uncontrolled special powers ensue>Retinue wide shuttle orgy>Yrlikek in shambles
>>474886434>gets killed soon afternothing to do with the shard. the rest is irrelevant. he did it once, he can do it again
>>474897449He didn't do it once, you had to bail him out and all the resources he used are gone. Can't get more admech to do this after it gets out that he killed them, can't get more deldar after his scheme got found out and he stole the thing from the first haemonculus, he even only found the shard in the first place because of Theodora.
>>474896270that xenos are traitorous cunts and should be eliminated on sight
>>474897853yeah, one xenos getting tricked means you wouldn't have act 3 without heroh wait, you still do because the actual traitor is human and you get thrown into act 3 on purposeand it's xenos saving your life and getting you out of there
>>474897853You can't get out of Cumrag without a xenos helping you dipshit.
My wife
How cure Marazhai-induced brainrot?
>>474896806adorable inner world handholding is the best
>>474857265Yeah first in 2 and second in 4 might work best, or making a new act between 2 and 3 for both.
>>474908307Lesbian art>is wholesome, soulful, respects the character, doesn't sexualize, has only canon amounts of touching, is striking and gorgeously drawn>makes her look mannishgoddamn it
>>474905194A bolt through the brain is the best cure
>>474905194keep posting fanart until it goes away
>>474887060Theoretically yes but some fights would be a huge pain to get through:>sniper in Aurora fight>arena battles with snipers on platforms>fucking Edge of Daylight I hate this shit
>>474867369there is a wikihttps://roguetrader.wiki.fextralife.comget the blessed bolter casing that makes argenta not miss with single bolter shots
>>474915941Is slutty art better or do I keep it chaste
is there a mod to be an unsanctioned psyker?
>>474923331You might be able to fuck with the values using Toybox, otherwise Idira is the only unsanctioned psyker you can play iirc
>>474923331Just keep playing. You can take psyker talents to become an unsanctioned psyker once you hit exemplar.
>>474923331don't think so but you can become one around the end of chapter 3
>>474923331>Toybox>SearchnPick>Search for psychic awakening
If I use rapid fire and then the soldier ultimate ability does it benefit from the increase in weapon fire rate
>>474886434>And he would have died even getting to the shard without you saving his asswhat, when?
>>474931036that's just the final battle, anon
>>474931118On the heretic route he has ulfar argenta and heinrix with him cause you haven't stolen themWith them he'd beat the shard into submission
>>474931360>muh heretic routeseriously? on the heretic route you wouldn't let him do his plan so it doesn't matter plus they wouldn't even get there without you keeping them alive through acts 1-4 not to mention all of act 3 happened because of calcazaralso all the eufrates fights so he could get that half of the yoke
>>474931619You say he'd die against the shard but that's just headcanon honestlyAlso act 3 is irrelevant because the ends justify the means>also all the eufrates fights so he could get that half of the yokeIf you weren't there, he'd just have Incendia do it and the result would be the sameCalcazar would win without your intervention, it's that simple
>>474929731Haven't tested it, but iirc rapid fire specifies that it doubles the rate of fire for the next burst fire attack. The ultimate uses the weapon's base rate of fire (though buffs to the weapon's base rate of fire might still count?)
>>474931923>You say he'd die against the shard but that's just headcanon honestlyi mean he didn't seem all that good at it but sure, but then assuming he'd win is also headcanon>Also act 3 is irrelevant because the ends justify the meansit's relevant in that it's his fault, you're the reason everyone else survived and if you weren't there marazhai would have done the same to him or someone closer to his plans>If you weren't there, he'd just have Incendia do it and the result would be the sameincendia was useless in an actual fight and would piss off the wolves and admech both instead of getting them to work together like you do
>>474933071>incendia was useless in an actual fightNot true, losing to the protagonist doesn't make her useless. Also thinking a zealot of her stature would piss off the wolves is retarded. She'd cream herself before them.
>>474933368she's a zealot who's getting corrupted and doing it for herself, also in the book part of the assault most of the options a dogmatic zealot would take are very stupid and work against you aside from pissing off the admech side
>>474933820>she's a zealot who's getting corrupted and doing it for herself,And you can call her out on it if you're dogmaticKnow who is? Space wolves and Calcazar.
>>474914547She looks fine, Eldar always look somewhat androgynous and alien and their faces don't have that softer look or fuller cheeks.
Pat Idira on the head and tell her everything will be alright.
>>474937129I wish you COULD fix everything for her somehow
>>474896270>not playing Idira as an assassinStacking Direct damage on top of her psychic barrages and Elusive Shadow to make enemies ignore her is baller.
>starts to realize how corrupt she became>gets killed instantlyI wanted to save her and have her repent :c
>>474945238She fucks dogs
>>474945238Can you ever truly come back from Chaos?
>>474945649sure, Calligos does it, Ryzza does it, I read there's even an option for the Heretic mc to lose all their Heretic points somewhereunless you become a demon prince or something, then you're probably fucked
>>474945649The only point of no return is becoming a daemon prince or being possessed by a daemon.
>>474945856callygos hasn't truly fallenhow do you redeem ryzza?
>>474948964Demand she repent and she'll throw away the chaos relic that's fucking with her mind and then she'll space everyone in her crew that has already fallen. Ryzza is less of a proper heretic and more an example of what happens when you kill and loot cultists instead of destroying everything they've touched. Might be Icono exclusive although I can't remember.
>>474948964Iconoclast 4 line to tell her it will hurt her crew
>>474949513Incredible how convincing a pirate to ditch a chaos relic is locked under a Iconoclast 4 dialogue line, but trying to convince an almost Khorne corrupted follower out of his bloodlust from killing is a free for all Iconoclast dialogue choice.
Iconoclast is the normie first time run conviction, its easy mode, broken for accessibility
>>474950028High Iconoclast is about using empathy to figure people out and influence them. The Ryzza line is about realizing she's getting corrupted as well as realizing what she cares about the most and using it. Calligos has a bunch of checks to realize that he's getting corrupted and that it's whatshisname's influence and you already know Calligos normally cares about his people so it's only locked behind normal Iconoclast. But yeah there should also have been some Icono 4 line to skip the checks and realize everything through Iconoclast magic instead.
>>474949452So siding against Incendia is the actual bad choice
>>474950607It's not? Exactly like Dogmatic it's a handful of useful extra dialogue lines that are mostly useless to characters who aren't that conviction. Dogmatic gets equivalent ones with other characters.
>>474950973why would it be, even Incendia agrees she was wrong
>>474951198>why would it beBecause no one relevant has to die if you do and if you don't Ryzza falls to chaos
Liked the game overalldidn't like commorragh will there be another game set in 40k?
>>474951386But you can redeem Ryzza. Yeah you have to kill Hieronymous because he loses his shit but he's also a fucked up easily corrupted guy and Chaplain does just fine taking over and you get a good ending slide out of it.
>>474950707You would've figured only a fanatically insane empath like Iconoclast 4 would take the risk to try to snap out a khorne follower out of his bloodlust by appealing at his human side.Too bad the line "Caligos, you can't just kill the eldar" has such lame wording. A simple "Stop." would've worked better.
>>474951589>But you can redeem Ryzza.how
>>474951761The dialogue in general gets pretty weak in the later acts. The high point is when Calcazar gives you the mother of all monologues, paragraph after paragraph of exposition, and your response is "I see."
>>474951845People already told you, in act 4 when you go to the bar to mediate you can talk to her and notice she's acting weird and as an Icono get her to throw away the chaos relic and kill any cultists in her crews.
I want to Dogmatically engage in a threesome with a death cult assassin and Jae
>>474951889Why did you remind me of Calcazar's word vomiting the entire story to you, anon. >"I see"Did they paid the writers in peanuts for act 5 and the epilogues?
>>474951761That really should have been an option. Though I can buy that other characters would try to point it out and talk him out of it, it would be less that you're taking a risk to redeem him and more that Chaos = bad so you'd try to get him to turn on the actual Chaos agent and if it doesn't work you'd fight him because, well, Chaos = bad and you're a badass RT fighting Chaos or something.>Too bad the line "Caligos, you can't just kill the eldar" has such lame wording. That's more just the start of an argument before getting options about what to say exactly.
Heinrix should be my senechal after abelard retires
>>474952653He'd be terrible at it.
>>474952627True, but I imagine that said in the most deadpan/sarcastic voice possible.
>>474952653Jimmy is easily best as Master of Whispers. If anyone should be your new Seneschal it'd have to either be Jae (established Merchant and professional bullshitter) or some random dickbag noble from Dargonus.
>>474953000He'd be horrible at MoW too, he completely fucked up at everything about the drukhari mess. Just get one of Abelard's many family members.
Yrliet! Review human singing skills!https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zxFQbjQbPq0
>>474952804why>>474953149isn't it said that clementia joins your ship in the ending slides? too bad she doesn't have a portrait
>>474954112Isn't it some random ship?
>>474953239>skillsmon-keigh please
>>474942365does that help a lot? I had her as an assassin and most of the assassin abilities were wasted as she had a staff, then I made her a BH and those extra turns to spam lightning were a lot better
Do you think Abelard preferred being your seneshal or Theodora's?
>>474953239Hmm. At least guttural growling suits the temperament of your species better than your clumsy attempts at melody. I rate this higher than the wailing that disgorges from your places of worship and the chittering of the iron mon-keigh, but it rates far below silence.
>>474956070Probably theo’s since I treat him like absolute shit
>>474955740The assassin abilities are mostly useless for her so all you take is Elusive Shadow to reduce priority and give +10% damage while rest is psychic powers, the main thing is that you can trigger openings for bonus damage and the talents are great like dealing 1 direct damage for every 10 points of damage combo'd with the talent that gives you 10 lethality every time you deal at least 5 direct damage so your lightning/scream instantly get you like +40-60 lethality
>>474956070Anon don't ask questions when you know the answer will hurt
went to do janus before talking to jaeis she unrecruitable now?
>>474956659interesting, need to try this cool build
>>474957653Probably, she's basically operating on only a few days to live when you show up because baldie declared her to be persona non grata and all her assets are up for grabs.
why are there a random genestealer cult in a random bunker somewhereShouldn't they be on a populated planet?
pity they didn't make a full chapter on a spacehulk with genestealers instead of commorragh
>>474958941>Why?Likely realistic answer: probably because of cut content. The bunker might've been the start of a longer questline that lead somewhere bigger.
>>474958941>He doesn't know
>Halo device is....LE BAD!!!Fuck Heinrix
>>474959547Don't mind if I do
>>474905194By going back to elementary school. The correct forms are "How to cure"or"How do i cure"
>>474958941wasn't that bunker a voidship that was flying somewhere from Dargonus implying that there was a genestealers cult on dargonus? [spoler]there is
>>474953149>he completely fucked up at everything about the drukhari messnah. that's why he'd be perfect for it. because he's learnt his lesson, and he won't hesitate now that his wife's and children's lives depend on him being a ruthless cunt
>>474945856>I read there's even an option for the Heretic mc to lose all their Heretic points somewhere>unless you become a demon prince or somethingYou can repent when you talk to calcazar in act 4. The scene plays out like a synopsys for a badly written porn movie. One of the anon in /v/ general did it a couple of months ago. Shit was hilarious
Video game romances peaked with Marazhai
Argenta fucking sucks in combat
Shes pretty good with a heavy flamer and bolter in my runAlso how do I help her embrace enlightened centrist iconoclasm over dogmatism?
>>474972357>most (or second most) op companion sucks in combatI'm guessing you just started playing and/or have no idea what you're doing.
>>474972708She misses every shot even with max BS and perksHer wave clear is garbageShe’s squishyLow movement
>>474972357I thought so too until i found a good weapon for her. replace her starting bolter asap. it's abslute fucking trash. With anything. give her a lasgun if you have to
>>474974963Are bolters just bad? I got her the bolter perks and am using a better bolter than her stock weapon and it’s terrible
>>474974594I was frustrated with missing often early on too, but the cap on characteristic upgrades is reset for each archetype, and once she's an Arch Militant, you can very easily pump up her BS. There's also an item (already mentioned here >>474919835 that makes her never miss single bolter shots).The real op-ness comes from giving her a heavy bolter, stubber, or other high rate of fire weapon, getting the heavy weapon and versitility perks, plus rapid fire and confident approach abilities. On her first turn I can get her to >4x versatility with always prepared + reckless rush so she can fire 16 heavy bolter shots that will always crit. Recoil gloves and/or Pasqual's blessing to halve recoil, and she can pour on the damage to multiple targets. In some fights this is enough to trigger her ultimate, but if not she can use Furious Recital to gain enough momentum, then take 8 more auto-crit single shots (that will never miss).Even in chapter 3 without all her special gear, she was wasting delves with a janky heavy stubber like it was nothing.
I'm looking to play a melee psyker, and I'm wondering which homeworld would work best with that. Forge World can eventually all but nullify the burning effect, but Death World would mesh nicely with Warrior. What are your thoughts?
>>474975775>Are bolters just bad?nay. the game's argumably best weapon is a bolter. there are several good ones. i think she was running with a las sniper rifle until footfall or until I could afford a bolter from one of the factions. it's just that her starintg bolter has insane recoil. other bolters don't have that
>>474920834Is Marzipan even capable of being chaste (at least in a loose sense of the word)?
>>474976431sure, but he'd have to stop being a deldar first, and that's not something he wants to do, so the answer to your question is 'no'
>>474957653Yes, she dies if you don't get her before you leave.
Has any video game captured 40ks sense of scale and grim atmosphere adequately?
post your favorite OST
>>474985267I honestly think Rogue Trader is the closest it gets so far
>>474986916https://youtu.be/n5R0oN00ODE?si=kot3rrgVPvZkfAnpmain theme is really chill to listen to
>>474976210Bumping, please.
>>474992929Depends, forge World can eventually all but nullify the burning effect, but Death World would mesh nicely with Warrior.It's up to you
>Yrliet betrays you>Argenta killed theodora>Heinrix ambushes you with calcazr at the end of act 2>Ulfar steals a shuttle from you>Idira starts some warp heresy on the shipALL FUCKING SNAKES, ALL OF THEM
>>474993836I suppose I deserve that. I'm just not sure which is better.
>>474996165You forgot>Abelard wants to quit after you do his personal quest
>>474996165>>474998190Pic related single most loyal companion
>>475000335Wouldn't know, he died on commoragh
Does heinrix actually leave permanently?He just said he’s getting off a footfall:(
>>474996165Forgot >Jae steals from you all the time
>>475001541Yeah he never returns
What should I do first in chapter 2?
>>475002582It can go in the order you wantI'd say Kiava is the hardest and most combat heavy so go for it first if you want. It's the furthest away from your starting point though
>>475001541He'll be back soon
>>475002582Do what interests you in Footfall first, since some things will change / be unavailable if you leave and come back later.
>>475003265Hey speaking of difficulty, is there any level scaling of enemies in RT? Are the planets / quests set to have specific level enemies, or will it vary based on what you do first?
>>475002582The order doesn't matter so anything you want. Janus is closest and gets you Yrliet so probably the most useful.
How does edge of daybreak just instantly take control of tarvantias exactly
>>475009938He does? Is this in the heretic route?
>>475004454Yes, for act 1 you can do them in any order but the easiest is Eurac > Prison > Rykad but if you do them in different order it difficulty will be reduce/increased accordingly (ie prison first and you get bonus helpers in the big fight and if you do Eurac later then a bunch of enemies will mutate and become tougher). Same thing with Act 2 but without the scaling for changing the order with the intention to do Janus > Dargonus > Kiava Gamma but you can clear Kiava first and have the fights be an absolute bitch to do or Janus last and just roll everything,
I feel like we'll get a DLC announcement in the next few weeks and while I know it'll have a new archetype I'll skip that since no point when the companion has it. So how about a Power Armour Dogmatic Death World Operator Assassin with a Thunder Hammer. Mostly I'm just split between doing a Crime Lord or a Sanctioned Psyker, I did a Pyromancy run previously but ended up abandoning it after 1.1 and if I go Psyker it'll be Divination since Idira is getting spaced anyways.
>>475018387I haven't noticed any difference at all in act 2 for the order
Hope someone makes a mod to turn the shitty von valancius frigate into a cruiser
>>474956070depends on how you treat him and what you actually doI can't imagine Theodora letting him leave to help his family if she had uses for him
>>474951589That was one of the dumbest shit in this game, this old fart do a total reverse just so the game force you to have someone to fight.
>going heretic for first playthrough>part-way through chapter 2>almost all companions have been some flavour of dogmatic>yet they barely react to me being heretical>even the inquisitor is extremely lenient>game feels like it was built around dogmatic/iconoclast style a lot moreIt feels kind of underwhelming so far. Does it get any better? It seems like it's building up to some big betrayal of all your companions at some stage.
>>475025535it sort of makes sense when you know she ended up like that because of hieronymous
>>475026047>Does it get any better?No, it's cartoon evil and filling the ship with obvious Chaos shit and almost no one cares.>It seems like it's building up to some big betrayal of all your companions at some stage.Some leave you and you fight them at the end, yes. You can get two special heretic companions instead but they have next to 0 content.
>>475023680>Callibro has a sick grand cruiser>fucking space pirate has friggin battlecruiser or w/eI want to play Battlefleet Gothic: Armada: Rogue Trader Edition! Why can't MY ship be a huge fatass too??
>>475023680They really should add actual ship options to the ship dlcs.
>>475026702this, I actually like the ship combat but it's silly how wimpy the RT ship is
>>474996165>>Heinrix ambushes you with calcazr at the end of act 2>he didn't play the canon femcel traderhahaha
No joke but I laughed when I saw how even that pirate in act 4 had a bigger ship than me, a Rogue Trader
>>475026702well, your ship is archeotech. whatever that means. Too bad being archeotech doesn't give you any special perks, except having to clean up technerd cum from all over it
>>475026239Fuck. I think I might start over then and do iconoclast.
>>475028738it's not about being female, he doesn't warn you if you're not romancing him
>>475029143It does have some extra content like the sword if you do everything right and some different options, but it's incoherent and unsatisying as a story and has no nuance to speak of, it's just a bad end for everyone other than you.
>>475032273>but it's incoherent and unsatisying as a story and has no nuance to speak ofThis is what's been bothering me about it. I was hoping I'd have more chances to pick up dubious characters to fill my retinue with, or for more interactions with heretical groups. Or even just having my choices be something consequential and not just being a mindless cartoon villain that the hardcore Imperial zealots around me only raise an eyebrow to. I think a heretic run would feel a lot more immersive with a party of custom characters, because then it's like having a bunch of sycophant lackeys around, which feels more lore friendly than this. Chapter 2 isn't too far into it so restarting shouldn't feel too annoying.
>>474964637he fucked up because he didn't think anything through which never changes especially in the romance route
>>474975775No just her first one is shit.
>>475023282nta and yeah there isn't any just that it expects you to go janus/dargonus/kiava so doing it the other way around would make kiava feel much harder and janus much easier
>>475034067It would have been cool to have a route where you could get tempted to use Chaos for your goals and kind of a path to hell is paved with good intentions plotline. But no, it's overt silly evil and being asked to serve Chaos gods from the start which does nothing for any characters I actually want to play.
>>475045353Funny how everyone says it's a slippery slope, but for us it's an uphill struggle. You have to WORK to be corrupted.
>But no, it's overt silly evil and being asked to serve Chaos godsI thought the point of the heretical route is for the heretical RT to try winning the attention and appeasing of all chaos Gods. How else would they bestow their individual blessings and upgrade the RT into a chaos undivided Daemon Prince? You gotta work for that shit to show that you have potential for more than just a brainless cult follower.
>>475052415It's not, you can appease the others but a Tzeentch daemon is the main one the quest is tied to. Becoming a daemon prince is what you get for hitting Heretic 5 but it doesn't matter how you get there.
>>474972357t. me on a first playthrough
>>475053247Okay but the RT is not Tzeentch's Daemon Prince, or a Tzeentch follower. It was stated by the game devs that heretical RT serves chaos undivided.
>>475053247You only reach lvl 5 by literally taking all of the heretical options. So by appeasing all of the chaos gods nets you Princehood. It makes total sense.
>>475056845you'd need to count the points, they changed the number of points needed for max convictions in one patchalso I read that you can become a daemon prince even if you agree to serve Edge
> if you agree to serve EdgeWhich is dumb as hell. Bird lord even betrays you in his epilogue slide, cuz he was disappointed you didn't turned the tables on him and outwit him.I am getting tired of these narrative lore oversights they will never fix.
The archetypes feel too same-y
>>474976210Are melee builds viable?
>>475061792Really? I felt they played differently enough, for example you wouldn't make Argenta anything other than AM or Yrliet anything other than assassin.
>>475064673very much so. in fact every build in rt is viable. whether that's a result of good class balancing or just combat being piss easy is up for debate
>I had no idea this was your dwelling until I entered it>On my craftworld, we all held a simple custom - you may set your foot wherever your Path requiresWhy does Path of the Outcast requires sneaking into mon-keigh rooms, Yrlicel?
>>475069306because she's a liar
>mogs your headrock>doesn't say mon-keigh
>>475069306Because it's the Path of doing what i was gonna do anyway
>>475070162>always up for a butt sexThat guy is based
>>475069306Wtaf was wrong with Crudarach? Alaitoc is THE most obsessively traditionalist, path-focused craftworld and they don't have this shit, everyone rings the psychic doorbell like normal people (exception being one farseer, under the logic of "well I saw that we arranged to meet in this other place but you ended up being late so I just showed up here instead lol").
>>475070162one of these days I plan to play Gothic Armada just for himand those nice looking Eldar ships with the solar sails
>>475069640Real reason she left Crudarach is an amount of restraining orders against her>"Did I ever think I would encounter this again after Crudarach?">Yrliet laughs>"Stiff, meaningless rules... and condemnation for overstepping lifeless boundaries. It weighed so heavely upon me. Back then"
>>475070162Based eldar bro.
I’m playing on steam deck, r u guys getting all these loading screens too?
Do I write Yrliet/Marazhai smut
>>475070162he's alright. him and that other guy can stay. otherwise - total leldar death
>>475072693he cares about protecting craftworlds though
>>475071125nothing is wrong. yrlikek is a liar, or a retard. most likely both. there's a reason everybody hates her guts. no reason to believe a word of what she says
>>475072614Only if it involves Yrlikek getting cucked by Lord Captain
>>474877767okay so like here's the deal>picking dogmatic things will at times make you sensible and upstanding, at times make you an insane cultist>picking heretical cultist will at times make you power hungry, at times make you an insane cultist>picking iconoclast will at times make you pragmatic and reasonable, at times make you a fucking alien-hugging laughable pussyso the correct option is to become based by embracing centrism and dipping into all 3
>>475072882>everybody hates her gutsMuaran. Who else?
>>475072614there already is
>>475072882Why does she make you seethe so much?
>>475072882eh she lied about one thing and I get why she did itthey hate her because outcasts have a reputation of being dumb rebellious teens fucking around
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>>475072614I romance both but this couple is weirdly fascinating. It would work in those two timelines where you make them both sad so they end up teaming up and bonding over it.
>>475073206>eh she lied about one thingno, she didn't just lie about one thing. Lots of things she says is either an outright lie, a lie by omission, or a misrepresentation of a situation>I didn't know it was your room tee-heeshut the fuck up, cunt, you've been traveling on this ship for months, you know whose room it is>oh, i was sexually assaulted boo-hooin what world is it acceptable to just walk up to a person (a xenos no less) and ask her if she's up for some sex? Not for a second do I believe that this was what actually happened. Either she's lying or misrepresenting>the whole ambush thingnot even gonna go into this one>they hate her because outcasts have a reputation of being dumb rebellious teens fucking aroundno? that's not the case at all
while i'm all for total eldar death, yrliet can stay alive while she's on my ship. she's like a strange exotic pet, and it's really funny when i can convince her to murder other members of her near-extinct species by simply telling her that they deserve it
>>475073821if you're going to add misrepresentation for fuck's sake you know based on the notes you find that theodora probably destroyed her craftworld and never say anything until she figures it out>you know whose room it iswould she get that all those rooms in there are yours even the hallway and trophy room? when other people have like a bed or tiny room? eldar don't usually get human society>in what world is it acceptablethe same one a bunch of random lower deckers thought it was acceptable to murder the RT's guests because they were xenos>not even gonna go into this oneyeah that's the one thing and she didn't know what would happen>no?some do but who knows how it was on crudarach, everyone in the game is mad that she didn't care about them and fucked off somewhere while they got attacked even though that's literally what outcasts do
>>475073821>in what world is it acceptable to just walk up to a person and ask her if she's up for some sex?You've never seen someone make a pass at a stranger? Whether it's acceptable or not, people do it.
>>475072998The best is to pick your favorite but without the dumbest options that come with it. Like Iconoclast but nuking Rykad, cleansing Kiava Gamma and skipping dumb shit like buying the mutants or telling Vladaym you don't want anything in return for helping.
>Yrliet and Marazhai become clowns if you fuck up both their quests>Yrliet and Marazhai become corsairs and hunt together if you push Yrliet towards Path of Damnation and finish Marazhai's quest with him having to fight all the other deldarIs there any reactivity to leaving Yrliet in Commorragh and making Marazhai Archon? Just feels like he'd track her down and recruit her or something just because it would be too funny not to.
>>475075031idk, my yrliet got fucking smoked by amarnat
>>475075031No, those endings don't interact
>>475074407>the same one a bunch of random lower deckers thought it was acceptable to murder the RT's guests because they were xenoscorrect. murder them, like the dogma dictates, not go wink-wink nudge-nudge at them>theodora probably destroyed her craftworldand? what does that have to do with her being a lying cunt? she lies to you long before she figures it out>>475074475>You've never seen someone make a pass at a stranger? when the state law dictates that you're in a state of permanent war with said stranger and that they should have their brains blown out on sight? No, I have not, because i live in a real world, not bizarro world, like you do, apparently>people do it.no, my basement dwelling friend, people don't actually just run up to you and ask if you want to have some fuck with them (unless it's an orgy or something). usually (always) there's a good amount of schmoozing involved first, and if the person you're trying to talk to you is looking at you like she has a single braincell behind those eyes and doesn't say anything you back away slowly.jesus christ what the fuck am I doing trying to discuss pick up behaviour with virgins on /vg/. i'm the idiot here, not you. Forget i even said anything
>>475075632based>>475075031it's a shame they only work as a duo. would have loved making just one or another a clown, but i guess it's funnier that way
>>475074407>even though that's literally what outcasts doowlkeks have very second-hand, if even that, grasp on 40k lore. 100% the writers just read the wiki
>>475075939>when the state law dictatesTrue, people never break the law. Especially in 40K where heretics literally don't exist.>usually (always) there's a good amount of schmoozing involved firstIf you want to succeed, sure. Not everyone is smart, or sober, or socially well-adjusted, or raised well, or
>>475075939>like the dogma dictatesthe dogma dictates fucking listening to the emperor-appointed RT who is allowed to deal with xenospoint is they feel because they're xenos they don't have to treat them like people which is why you can also get a version of >>475074337 who is a xenos fucker >and? what does that have to do with her being again she lied once the rest is your headcanonand you're lying or "misrepresenting" to her as well by not telling her
>collector's editionIt's stupid expensive but I'm stupid stupid so it checks out
>>475076336to be fair eldar opinion of outcasts is pretty schizo in the path novels where they're both useful and respected and also get the wtf how can you do that you're irresponsible what about muh path etc
>>475077380is that the one with a shit quality statue lmao?
If I give yrliet to heinrix, do I still get trapped by the deldar?
>>475078330yes
>>475078330Obviously, because the actual traitor was Scalander, Heinrix's guy.
>>475078330Heinrix fucks up instead kek
>>475078330Obviously, because owlkeks can't into diverging storylines, also that other anon is correct. yrlikek is retarded but she's not a traitor traitor
>>475078505it's so fucking dumb, isn't it. All the way up to that point he advocated for a "better safe than sorry" approach, but for some reason does not remove the guy who is highly likely to have been compromised. What the fuck, owlkeks? what was the point of even involving yrlikek in this? to create drama where there was none? One of the worst written plot points in vidya
>>475079605>he advocated for a "better safe than sorry" approach, but for some reason does not remove the guy who is highly likely to have been compromisedWhile I find it kekworthy, I also think it's a realistic blind spot. He can apply this harsh logic to people he's never met (and xenos), but he gives the benefit of the doubt to people he considers his own.
>>475080513he wasn't even his own. He was emelina's agent. And nothing implies that he considers him a friend. I think it could have been better written. You want jimmy to fuck up because he has a blind spot for schalander? that's fine, a good character moment actually, but at least give us a reason to believe that he would act this way
>>475081636>He was emelina's agentThat's what they say, but Heinrix also acts like a handler to him. Like this:>"I disbanded his network of spies and sent Achilleas himself off to track down an easier target. I imagine he has buried himself in his task, trying to make amends."So I think the hierarchy is more messy than that. Heinrix does seem to feel responsible for him in some way.>at least give us a reason to believe thatIt was enough for me to buy it, but it could have been set up more I guess.
>>475079605This is extremely consistent for Heinrix. He fails to react to or put together any of the following:>Achilleas somehow keeps getting information that accurately predicts where deldar will strike>a fucking deldar tells you straight up that this is impossible without another deldar being the source of the info>said deldar asks you to meet him and settle everything through a duel in the middle of nowhere (reminder Heinrix is a fucking Ordo Xenos guy)>said deldar has agents on your ship and can turn anyone with torture and weird deldar bullshit>when you're attack you get more hints that deldar are scheming against each other and using you to do it>Clementia explains to you that the attack on the palace is deliberate and they must be looking for something there>Clementia tells you that Achilleas was at the palace and is stuck there but Achilleas claims he only went there from the Administratum after the attack started>Achilleas' wounds are many but all non-lethal >Achilleas claims the deldar weren't looking for anything and just messing with him>Marazhai was just chilling on the throne and he and most of his troops leave the moment you show up meaning that they got whatever they came forHeinrix has all this info and concludes that Achilleas is just a smart guy who knows his stuff, that the deldar had no idea that Achilleas was Inquisition and never bothers to think about what the deldar were doing or check up on Achilleas (meanwhile Yrliet realizes he's suspicious, follows him and finds him talking to Marazhai). He then insists that Achilleas couldn't possibly be the traitor up until Marazhai spells it out for him with proof. Basically Heinrix is biased, extremely emotional and terrible at his job.
>>475082443yeah, and all fo this is extremely dumb and badly written. a guy who's an emotional mess made it to an interrogator, so we're to believe he has never messed up before? get the fuck out of here. it's incerdibly inconsistent with what they've set up for him
>>475083250inquisitor psykers are rare and he's probably very useful threatening and torturing peoplecome to think of it he doesn't do great at investigating the cult either, you can swipe the evidence right in front of him and he doesn't even notice
>>475074407>everyone in the game is mad that she didn't care about them and fucked off somewhere while they got attacked even though that's literally what outcasts doIsn't that the point?
>it's a shame they only work as a duo.Why this story forces me to treat my eldar gf like shit just to make the deldar into the clown he deserves to be
>>475081636Emelina handed him over to him and he cares a lot about Emelina so he'd trust her agent implicitly. Hilariously Scalander and Heinrix are like the two people connected to Emelina who aren't in on the Inquisition - drukhari alliance.
>>475083773clowns are based though
>>475079605>what was the point of even involving yrlikek in this? Why are you even asking the obvious? Owlkek is continuing the elf hating tradition that OW set into place.
>>475084090> that OW set into place.That GW set into place*Excuse my shizo mistyping.
>>475084013They are but there's no on screen development for the eldar companions for this path. You have to mess their quests, and the epilogue mentions them becoming clowns. It doesn't feel rewarding at all, and the fact we can't make just the deldar character into a harlequin is stupid.
>>475084816>and the fact we can't make just the deldar character into a harlequin is stupidplease understand the funny clown - sad clown bit only works if there's a sad clown around. Without the sad clown for a funny clown to dunk on the whole performance falls apart
>>475086079
>>475086079clowns aren't really clowns though they're more like actors
>>475087116
>>475087116If you wanna get nerdy, they are more like acrobats. Entertainers who are also lethal cunning warriors.
>>475087116>>475087491They are clowns/acrobats/priests/shamans. Remember that they are more or less the last remaining bits of space elves priesthood.
Shame the Harlie rep we get from RT is not good. Nocturne is amazing but the Harlequin troupe from Cassia's companion quest are so badly depicted.
Is the gun you get from aurora any goodIt doesn’t look good
>>475095876it's not by mere virtue of requiring heretic levels to use
>>475089993Yeah that part felt rushed like all of act 4, they didn't have even a little of Nocturne's character.
>>475103140They felt somehow worse than the ones we meet on quetza temer. Their fighting style was so laughably bad. A Troupe Master without a full troupe being minced by your party, in 2 turns by your op navigator companion. Holy shit, how can I accept this bullshit after they gave us Nocturne?
>>475104239>Holy shit, how can I accept this bullshit after they gave us Nocturne?lmao what? Nocjobber keels over in a single attack then runs away like a little bitch spouting his "foiled again!" like he's team fucking rocket
>>475105363I was referring to his character writing there. He had the charm of a harlequin, whereas the fuckers from Cassia's quest were like copies of Yrliet.
>>475106028the portrait is doing all the heavy lifting. he himself is nothing to write home about
>>475106436So what did you enjoyed out of this game then, anon? I am curious.
>>475106028>Cassia's quest were like copies of YrlietNo they're not half as retarded or antagonistic
>>475106694portraits
>>475107413whats everyones favorite rt portrait? currently playing through the game as a female and this was my favorite out of the female portraits
>>475108417many good ones desu. Can't tell which one was a favorite. Male crime lord probably even though I didn't play as one
Figured I'd just drop this here in case anyone good at summarizing parts of this game wants to help out.https://1d6chan.miraheze.org/wiki/Rogue_Trader_(Video_Game)
>>475111242>marazhai not mentioned among companions Seething over the most fanarted character again, /vg/?
>>475111827To be fair, there was some stuff on him prior to 1d4chan dying, but that part didn't get archived well.
>>475108739yea its a very solid lineup
>>475111827>Ship customization will exist but no details are available yet>Cassia is very fragile>Yrliet can't use Dark Eldar weapons>Jae has the run and gun ability>Cult of the Final Dawn is suspected of Chaos taint (kek)It's just lacking in general.
>>475108417fat guyi named him Valentino Vance Vladimir Von Valancius V Von Valancius
>>475111827>fatcel has persecution complexof course.
>>475114262truly the most prodigious of all von valancius
can you skip the space battles in this game? I'm finding them very boring.
>>475115747yeahi put von valancius in the name myself not realizing that it would be this game's version of knight commander or baron/king, but it was really funny so i kept it instead of restarting or save editinghe was a useless blob of a noble/officer/master tactician who refused to do anything himself and instead told other people to do things harder for him
>>475117097lel
>>475108417The default portraits are surprisingly good. Went with this one and it's probably my favorite.
>>475117097marvelous
Abelard likes my rogue trader more than theodora
>>475071595Why is this xenos drooling all over the floor
>>475119408full pic is probably lewd
>>475115621>implying the seething isn't cosmic Everyone and their mom has noticed
So I got to footfall icognito-killed some bandits-pretended to be a guy named fidelo and killed everyone and got +4 profit-killed some miniboss named emberNow what? Was that all the incognito things?
>>475126975afaik the only big Incognito thing is the Fidelio quest rest is a bunch of dialogue.
is yrliet happier as a dark eldar?kind of want her dead for betraying my rogue trader though
>>475108417I went with this one
>>475108417what's the point of the tubes
>>475130521cooling or power for the augments so they don't cook her brain maybe
>>475130521>>475131069shes getting marazhai fanfics pumped straight into her brain
>>475131595w-which one
I love how Marazhai has dick piercings in every single fanfic. Impeccable characterisation, Owlcat
Does having pasqal rip out the xenotech affect his ending?
>>475139296nope
Argenta just fucking sucksBitch is always dying and does shit dmg
>>475141235that sounds like a you problem
>>475141235A companion you recruit at lvl1 can't suck unless you suck at building them
>>475141235extreme skill issueargenta solos everything in the game the moment you get out of act 1
>>475141235>argenta sucksthis is on like the first or second random tiny dungeon location i found in act 2
>Argenta, touch my ppHow would she react
>>474996165Argenta killed the person in the way of your ascension and her unloyal psyker dog and Ulfar tells you he's going alone so you're being ridiculous.
>>475145921look at you in discomfort, concern, and offense, but she'd probably just say no and then try to avoid speaking to you
>>475145921>your pocket prayerbook, yes? no thanks I have my own
>>475129962noit's annoying how you can't ask her about it first because you only find out after that no, she didn't sell you out to the deldar, she got tricked
>>475151563I recruited the dark eldar guy and found out the truth, lucky I spared yrliet.
>break stifler>spire doesn't immediately fill with hundreds of daemonslame
>>475151731oh cool, if you also have heinrix you can get a conversation where they argue about it did you get the missable scene where a bunch of party members run off and try to kill marazhai? shit was fun and for some reason you only get the yremeryss soul trap option there
>>475152441This should have happened along with daemons in the final fight, have everything be a huge 3-way clusterfuck that's a lot harder to escape.
dead general
I just bought game.Is it more fun to build a Psyker or some kinda Snoiper for main character?
My character has literally 0 heretic, with a pretty good mix of mostly dogmatic but I help my own people so I have a fair amount of iconoclast when it was reasonable.I consistently agreed with Argenta on almost all matters, even the controversial ones that would be a spoiler to spell out. We clicked on almost every single thing. I was pleasantly surprised that she actually had a few iconoclast moments herself, with the children and stuff.I went through the entire game hoping there would be some sort of romance. I don't care about sex, I just wanted some sort of respectful and cute scene about praying together and then holding hands or something.But alas, I'm not entirely disappointed just being friends. That's how life is sometimes, and I'm happy to have that much.
>>475157340psyker is fun but your character will never be as good at it as the psyker companionsniper also can end up insanely OP but you get a companion who's great at it toothe most useful thing is probably an officer who gives extra turns to other people but if that's boring just pick whatever you find cool, you can make most builds work and you don't need to min max everything
>>475160216Yeah it felt like there could be something there/ Turns out GW specifically refused to let them add an Argenta romance even though Sisters of Battle aren't necessarily celibate in the lore.
>>475157340Both are fine. You can potentially get a very sniper oriented party member, but its not like an extra sniper hurts. You get a couple of psychics, but the potential ways to make them are broad enough that again its not a big deal to have extraso whatever your heart tells you i guess
>>475157340I had my rogue trader as a sniper, it was fun and big numbers
>>475157340I did both, you don't have to invest many points for the staff of endless flames to destroy everything while also having a rifle.
>>475157340Sniper is useful throughout the game. Psyker can feel underwhelming early on, especially since your two psyker companions have a leg up on you.
>>475143596This. lol
>>475141235lol, felt the same at firsther first bolter sucks
>>475126975Yeah it doesn't do much, it's more for flavor.
>>475126975I think it also affects your interactions with the guy with the "xenos" zoo
>>475169394Yeah, though whatever you tell him I think he still gets more later, the only way to permanently fix that is to talk to Vladaym.
>>475147304Retard, Ulfar explicitly stole a shuttle. That's literally a dialogue choice afterwards
>>475173258Yes but right after the uralon fight he tells you has to go alone and that its too dangerous, and anyway that was probably one of the shuttles you took from Rykad Minoris, easy come easy go.
>>475173896And? He still stole it instead of asking you to give him a ride.
Act 4 feels like they didn't know what to do so they just lumped a bunch of random shit together.
>>475186464common rpg failing
>>475186464winterscale and chorda shoulda had longer questlines in act 4
the class system is such a fucking mess in this game i dont know what im doing at all
I finished the game like 2 weeks ago but I still find it stupid how my sniper character used the same eldar gun he got in act 2 for the entirety of the game aside the last area in act 5 since nothing else game close to having more damage
>>475195992its not that complex, what dont you get
>>475196730every origin, homeworld, and archetype comes with a hundred thousand fucking perks and abilities that do (WP+BS+fuckyou-AG+ST)/2^3% bonus to sharting yourself for (FEL+piss+cum)*4 damage within WP-INT squares
>>475197083>bonus to shooting>pair with class that shootsits pretty simple anon
>>475197379and how do you choose the best out of all 5000 bonuses to shooting? go through the list and do the lil math questionaire each time? for each character? it's a mess and not fun, honestly hate leveling up
>>475197814its basic math and in practice by the end you're going to have enough level ups to easily take everything that matters by the finishjust take the biggest numbers if you're confused, not like the game is hard enough to require dedicated minmax building
>>475198530>its basic mathcorrect, which is boring and gay
>>475197083yeah, honestly I just go through the list and pick things that seem useful that aren't too annoying here are some things I like to use whenever possible, not sure how objectively good they are but they work for meit will not die, nimble, duelling mastery on almost everyonepsyker: psy rating, pain channelling, aftershock, subtle manipulation, second sightassassin: killing spree, keep your distance, idk some of the opening ones even if I still find lethality to be an annoying mechanicbounty hunter: just savour the kill to give idira extra turns lolnavigator: all the navigator talents and I ignore officer ones, I really like undam the sea of souls, mind over matter, eye of oblivion, stable routes, under my protectionofficer: wounds are no excuse (can heal injuries even out of combat, great for traps), inspiring speechvanguard: counter-attack stanceexemplar: deathdealer, tough as steel, flesh woundsabilitiesofficer: air of authority, inspiregrand strategist: combat locus, killzonevanguard: bullwark, assassin: death whisper, elusive shadow, killing edgenavigator: held in my gaze, immolate the soulbounty hunter: hunt down the preytelepath psyker: invigorate, psychic assault, regen, sensory deprivationmaster tactician: press the advantage, linchpin, strongpoint
I really hope we get at least one new Power Armour with the next DLC. I don't even want it earlier I just want a better option than one that makes you better at using heavy weapons.
Grand strategist is lame I don’t wanna set up areas every fight that’s boring as fuck
>>475210135so pick master tactician
>>475186464I thought they knew exactly what they wanted to do (figure out Calcazar plot, deal with the other Rogue Traders, final battle vs Edge and the cult, ending of most companion questlines) but they ran out of time to properly handle all this so they just did the bare-bones version of it.
game needs more archetypes, at least 2 more
>>475210135its the only archetype i cant stand
>>475214123cult should've either survived into act 5 (edge gets summoned in act 4, juices up uralon/retard, and ficks off to chase calcazar) or been wrapped up in act 2 and had the rest of the game be focused on the calcazar plot
>>475210135>>475219515I agree having to set up the zones every combat and then keep moving them as needed is tedious (among other things, like buffing) but I do like that it adds more spatial consideration to combat and can has the potential to encourage different approaches with positioning your party or targeting enemies. I wish rotation of zones was manual though, since it makes it really annoying to get them where you want with it based off of the GS' relative position. If the combat was harder, or if there were more units to buff than was feasible to do through regular means, then I think the extra time spent with zoning would feel more worthwhile.
>>475221430>I wish rotation of zones was manualOr just make them all square like the frontline. No need to make it fiddlier than it already is.
>>475222927That would work too, especially for the small party size... I imagine the longer, thinner zones was meant to reflect gun lines, but there aren't really enough units on your size for that to really come into effect.
>>475219497like what?
>>475219515bounty hunter is also annoying to use and most characters are better off as something else
>Make Idira a Grand Strategist>Free first turn where she walks up to the largest group of enemies>Drop frontline on them then psychic scream>Stuns basically everything except bosses and kills all the chaffHilariously effective. Especially against that dumb Muaran fight where he drops a psychic storm on everyone
>>475230286Wow, nice, never occurred to me that she could be good as GS, I've been giving her bounty hunter for extra lightning arcs but this sounds interesting.Also I just realized I've finished the game several times and literally never fought Muaran.
>>475230286Nice. I did similarly with Cassia as GS. First turn buffs, area or targeted damage, and whoever else I want can get at least half a turn before the battle even begins too. Didn't bring her to Cumrag and party still did fine, so not sure if I want to go back to full OPness for the rest of the game.
Why didn't the Jimmi femcels move here from /v/ too?
>>475236634and thank fuck for thatsome people just prefer the /v/ fast shitposting environment and posting the same things over and over and overthere's like one of the marazhai fangirls that's like that but the others are chill and we have much better discussion here
>>475236634Theres RTposting on v? How do I find it reliably?
>>475238113There used to be pseudo-generals all the time, everyone moved here or got bored. It still gets short shitposting threads and gets brought up in other threads like the "recruiting the villain" thread right now that's mostly Loghain and Sarevok discussion but had some Marazhai and RT mentions.
>>475226348I'm not gonna do your job Owlcat
How do you get the ending where Ulfar succumbs to the wolf curse and Marazhai tries to hunt him down? I can't find it on the wiki
>>475242897You have to keep pushing him towards anger and revenge until he falls to the Wulfen curse.
>>475243104>tempering ulfar leads to his good ending>tempering argenta leads to her bad ending
>>475243104But wheres the part about Marz hunting him down? Can't find that anywhere.Only asking because of that anon who claimed they develop a bromance, which is very cute but I can't find proof
>they develop a bromanceIf you squint your eyes, yeah. Kinda. It's not noticeable and it's mostly bits of hints.Can't say it's developed enough for players to call it that.
>>475243965It happens if you have Marazhai and Ulfar gets the Wulfen ending, it's just in an ending slide, the wiki might have it. You don't need it to see their interactions, if you just have both in the party and bring Ulfar when you recruit Marazhai and then when you do his quest they'll react to each other a lot. It's not like Idira and Argenta or anything, they just have this fun rivalry and banter.
>>475210135Only reason I still do it is that I'm so used to Pasqal being GS it just feels wrong not to do that. And as long as you don't micromanage everything to be perfect it's useful to have a sniper zone and throw the frontline one on wherever the fighting is.
>>475245884do you guys think pasqal or jimmi is the most "I could make this guy literally any available t2 archetype and it wouldn't be a bad idea" character?
>>475237119>literally in front of the Codex Astartesnice
>>475237119His art used to be SOMEWHAT close to in character at the start, now it's just full on waifutard.
Do I finish everything in footfall before I do other stuff in act 2?I don’t wanna be overpowered the game is so easy so far
>>475257269I don't think you can finish everything in Footfall this act
>>475257269>>475260341There are some things that will change/be unavailable if you don't do them before you first leave though.
>>475257269You can save everything there for later, except for recruiting Jae.
>>475257269it's up to you, i did it all to avoid having to travel back there>i don't want to be overpoweredwhatever you do DON'T have a master tactician and arch militant in the same party, or a master tactician and a sanctic power psyker
>>475263491also don't have an arch militant and anyone who started as an officer in the partyin fact, just ban arch militant and officer
>>475263071What about Argenta's quest, she has a minor thing
>>475268419I forgot about that and came back to do it later with no problems. Although in that case I hadn't even talked to Hieronymous to start it yet, so maybe that changes things.
>>475263071The shadow quarters quest also changes a bit if you wait too long to do it.
>>475273914Do you mean the ANVR quest or the Plague one? Kinda want to see what ANVR does if you don't stomp them into the dirt immediately.
>>475273914Which one do you mean?
i dont use any powers or perks from second archetypes because i've run out of brain space after the first onewhat is a "grand strategist"? who knows, not me. what does a bounty hunter do? i dont know, hits things with an axe just like before
>>475274313>grand strategistAlways goes first in combat, and that's all you need to know. Make Cassia a Grand Strategist and she can preemptively nuke everything.
>>475274107nta but plague is different if you go there asap anvr never tried
>>475274107>>475274147>>475278932Yeah, I meant the plague one, sorry.I haven't tried waiting on the Anvers one
>>475281065the plague one at least tells you it will be different, not sure if there could be more to the anvr oneyou fight another of their groups in the atrium later anyway
>>475274313a number of them are "holy words, batman!" but i'll do my best to explain them for an obvious shitpost>vanguard gets tanky and manipulates aggro>archmil cycles attack types (note: single fire burst fire works for this) to cheat at the game and do bullshit infinite damage for 0 ap>bounty hunter crit chains and does a billion damage to marked targets and savour the kill is fucking broken and triggers on almost every kill for some reason??? so int operators (pasqal!) farm fucking stupid stacks of expose>master tactician makes your momentum mill kick off way faster, makes your dudes even stronger just for momentum milling, and gets to do cool shit whenever anyone does a heroic act. inspire/lynchpin is the goat>grand strategist points at shit on the ground to give mass buffs/debuffs and then points at them again to make cool things happen. special mention to blitz stratagem which lets everyone move like 5 billion MP literally for freeassassin requires too much thought for me. it's all about moving fast and being dodgy and dashing through people to hit weak points and nuking your hit chance to do wacky damage
>>475283657>you fight another of their groups in the atriumYeah, that was a kinda funny fight for me...>just leave leige's residence to return to ship>attacked by Anvers gang>deploy for curbstomp fight>Cassia vaporizes 3 guys on the near flank and 99s the last>The Lord Captain charges headlong at the nearest enemy and one-shots them with her chainsword>Idira vaporizes the remaining wounded guy on the flank but spawns a blue horror>Idira attempts to zap the horror but fucks up and KOs herself while also summoning a deamonette>The Lord Captain takes two stun grenades, followed by a crit sniper shot, regular sniper shot, and finally a shotgun blast before collapsing>Argenta rushes to cover the fallen Lord Captain and sets up for a penetrating bolter shot, sure to kill two of the ganger scum>(I hit spacebar by accident)>Argenta's dataslate vibrates in her pocket and she takes it out to see she's been sent a really funny meme about burning heretics>momentarily distracted, Argenta spends her turn reblogging the hilarious OC>meanwhile, Abelard and Pascal rush to contain the daemons>the deamonette launches a vicious attack against Ablelard>the old Senechal casually parries four slashes in a row, taking a sip of tea as the daemon's attack falters>assisted by Cassia, the two-handed melee bros cut down both demons in short order>Argenta finishes reblogging her funny meme just as more gangers close in, so she pulls out her flamer to avenge the Lord Captain>the remaining mooks are quickly dispatched save for Twice-dead Lanny, who is hunkered down behind the statue>Cassia instructs Ablelard to finish the battle>Ablelard nods curtly and uses his heroic act to instant transmission like 50 squares away and hack the now-thrice-dead sniper to bits with four greatsword attacks>after the battle, the Lord Captain returns to her ship for medical attention, and to remove the sewer stink she's been walking around with all morning since that weird pirate funeral
>>475283657If you mean the dude with a chainaxe, he spawns after you rerecruit Jimmy and you actually get a partial failure on the quest if you don't go back to kill him (killing chainaxe guy and thunder hammer guy gives you the specific hideout location instead of a bunch of booby trapped doors).
>>475291985no, the anvr fightsyou get around the citythere's one after you finish the quest
>aeldari have the lowest winrate in WH
>>475293179Nah, they've just gone from OP to averagehttps://www.stat-check.com/the-meta
Kinda wanna play rogue trader again since I've learned I like buff and CC charactersWas thinking>officer (air of authority + take aim) + master tactician (assign objective + lynchpin + finish the job)But... hmm... I dunnoI'm not sure how fun it would actually be, last time I played an officer it just felt lame I just gave people extra turns
>>475293179anon... they used to have the highest and drukhari the lowest until they both got ballanced and are around the middle now
>>475294793Nobody can force you to give extra turns, but that's still the most efficient use of an Officer, even post nerf
>>475297216Fair but it's the achetype ability I get :S
>>475297876Maybe go Soldier/Tactician instead so you're both shooting and buffing. I honestly find that I enjoy the game more the less I use Officers for exactly the reasons you're stating.
>>475298438Guess I could use soldier to lob grenades, since run and gun works with it and master tactician has some talents that interact with consumablesHmmm maybe, I'll figure it out
>>475294793Yeah I play that exact combo and it's fine and very useful but not that exciting. Well the problem is no matter what you pick companions will probably be better at it. I tried one run with a psyker and while not that powerful it was more fun and you can buff people and contribute in more ways.
>>475299351I think most psyker powers are kind of useless (but I play on unfair so eh maybe thats why) and the more effective stuff just makes me go.. ehhLike I love sensory whatever that gives people a fat -65 to weapon skill and ballistic skill so they miss a lot, but then the literal same psychic school has a huge range AoE stun that does fat damage so I'm like.. hmmmmMy original idea was to make a biomancer healer with some divination buffs but the divination buffs are ass and on unfair you don't often get a chance to heal people (sanctic also heals much better) so I got a little demotivated and just started considering master tactician insteadDunno
>>475298438Soldier Tac is just for AOE builds so you can one shot everything with your flamer/melta.
>>475299839>but I play on unfair so eh maybe thats why)Yeah I imagine suboptimal builds like that don't do well on unfair, at least officer/tactician seems OP enough it should work great on that. One fun thing is that one cloak that adds dodge for powers used on the character can make someone unkillable if you throw buffs on them but other than that idk how everything scales on unfair.
>>475300302The only thing you really have to worry about on unfair is surviving since enemies do dumb damage, it's really not very different from easier difficultiesYou end up needing a lot of armor on your armor characters and a stupidly high amount of dodge (so high that it's IMO not worth it most of the time) on your dodge charactersUnless a character is gonna be walking around in heavy armor I try and give them a power to survive (like the assassin skill that makes enemies ignore you) or just position them better, but I have to accept Yrliet and Cassia getting oneshot by a stray melee enemy sometimesBut well... yeah the survivability thing kinda makes my idea of playing a biomancy healer... yeahThe reason I mentioned sanctic is because you heal everyone at the same time by a really large amount (which you can turn into a shield with a talent) while bio is more of sustained or spot healingHonestly I'm starting to think I might try a biomancer anyway, biomancer staff does alright damage, enfeeble makes enemies get hit harder, Iunno maybe it'll be fun
>>475300302>>475300845Oh yeah and also having a good amount of perception/weaponskill to counter high dodge/parry, but you do that in the base game anywayYou really notice how shit marazhai is at hitting enemies in melee on unfair thoughMy argenta often invests into strength and walks around in heavy armor too also I forgot to say!It works since powerarmor later and all
>>475301002>You really notice how shit marazhai is at hitting enemies in melee on unfairYeah, Archmilitant pulls even further ahead here, since infinitely stacking Versatility lets you hit anything eventually
>>475301315I've found that assassins can do a fuckton of damage and have a capped hit chance (it's actually really really cool what assassin enables).... but that's by being an operative, where you lower dodge/parry chance to 0 with expose weakness then just murder shit with your assassinessToo bad he's a warrior
>>475301002Never tried unfair but I wonder how Marazhai's Yremeryss djinn blade scales, that thing gets his WS into the hundreds while stealing it from enemies which works well on bosses at least lower than unfair diffs. His perception needs more points into it though.
>>475301648The bigger problem is that he gets parried a lot (65 weapon skill isn't enough, and the second attack from dual wielding gets a -20)
>>475301726Yeah that's why it helps to build up his WS with the WS stealing sword if there are enemies he can hit from the start. Then once it gets to 200+ with similar levels of STR and TGH he can kill most anything.
>>475300845Is it true that dodge isn't that useful on Unfair? Or did they change that in the patches?
Is there a easy way to get navigator points? I'm stuck near the end of chapter 2 and I can't travel anywhere because I ran out of them.
>>475303196Enemies have like 180%+ dodge reduction by act 3 so unless you're trying to dodgemax to dodgetank yeah it's worse than heavy armor since armor at least reduces the damage you take>>475303605Travel between orange routes until you get events that give it, if you have no new places to scan
>>475303981Yeah that sucks then, I love dodge tanking.
>>475303605>>475303981 but yellow routes also give them and have lower chance of forcing you into annoying combat encounters, the events are the warp reef one (choose go close to the reef) and warp creature closing in on the ship (choose trust in the navigator)Also do the Emporium project in Dargonus, it lowers the number needed for new routes (used to be bugged so that it gave you a point instead but Owlcat fixed it, RIP wonderful Emporium bug, patch 1.1.28 never forget)
>>475243778Not really, it's about encouraging both to keep fighting the "good" fight and that their path is correct but without going to extremes. BasicallyArgenta fire = Ulfar packArgenta repentia = Ulfar alone and mourningArgenta fury = Ulfar Wulfen
>can't get metabolic overcharge before like level 40yeah I'm finna boutta be cheating that shit in at level 30 sorryshouldn't have made assassin's talent node be at level 29 to lock me out of it
hmmmm biomancer healer is panning out exactly as expected, regeneration healing like 10 hp per turn is assmetabolic overcharge and the staff attack are good though but.. eh
funny staff do go SUCC doe
heccin love science
>>475317332never tried this build, curious how it goes>>475317441now that is cool
>>475317563very nicethough, making yrliet bh? how's that working out, only ever had her as assassin
>>475317597Probably like every operative into assassin psyker goes, you kill things with your preferred psyker power (in this case the blood staff attack)Giving people extra turns is strong but I just feel like an officer when I do that (not a good feeling), enfeeble is barely noticeable among the sea of damage bonuses and regen sucks ass (invigotare is better)It's okay but not the feeling I was looking for>>475317680She does fine damage (not good, not even close to good, barely reaches fine) but is there mostly for armor shred and laying down traps so that people can't walk up to her and cassia and oneshot them (works sometimes)Assassin is probably better almost all of the time
>>475317969interesting, i suck at using operative so I never tried>armor shred and laying down traps so that people can't walk up to her and cassia and oneshot them idk she can do part of that as assassin too and keep your distance is greati'm just too used to her regularly soloing boss fights
>>475318371operative imo is the best archetype in the gameit's just so stupidly versatile and the weakpoint system ensures you always do damage no matter what, along with expose weakness nullifying armor and dodgeit's just so good
>>475319121>and the weakpoint systemwith assassin*
>>475319121it's like i get that logically but managing exploits is a pain so i only do the most obvious common sense things so i play operatives suboptimally
>>475319557It's actually pretty simple, you use expose weakness on whatever you're trying to kill, the little "give exploits" ability before that if you really need to knock it's armor dodge and parry down, or after the expose so you can have some exploits to boost your damage, then you hit itGrab the tactical whatever skill too for fat stacks of extra damage by consuming exploits in an AoE (you can make it hit 1 guy it'll suck up all their exploits fora hefty damage boost)I like it a lot, it also doubles on helping people survive unfair by giving the whole party armor
>>475319948i try to use those because those are fairly straightforward but it feels like there's more to itare there any other operative talents that i should be picking? i end up ignoring them and just using the basic stuff
>>475320145I almost always get the same ones, uncanny sight, instant exposure, improved tactics, if I'm playing something melee or that wants to be close to enemies then passive learning tooIf I have space then comprehensive analysis and continuous analysisOn my meme build using lightning as my main attack I took tide of excellence since I was always hitting in an AoE and lightning is affected by armor for some silly reason so I could use the damage reductionI often go assassin with operative and use elusive shadow to ignore any defensive aspects completely, since enemies won't target me, otherwise I would just invest into wearing heavy armor and use tactical knowledge to buff it (I do this on pasqal since I like him being melee, grab offensive pattern recognition too)On skills I only ever pick tactical knowledge and perfect spot, the precise strike or whatever is kind of a meme (well it helps you crit but... 1 ap cost ehh) and intimidation is... fine
>>475321286>the damage reductionthe armor pen*
>>475320145oh yeah right, if you reduce armor to 0 you only consume half the exploits with expose weakness btwhaving multiple operatives (just 2 makes it nuts really) with uncanny sight makes it so by the time you kill 1-2 guys the rest have 20+ exploits each
>>475320145and also, exploits give you a flat out 5x perception bonus extra damage with an extra 10% for every exploit the target hasso even just 1 exploit is 5x perception bonus + 10% while 10 exploits is 5x PER +100%, pretty nuts
>>475321983>5x perception bonus extra damageas a percentage, not a flat number
>>475321286all great stuff, thanks for this
>chinkcel is back
>>475325327>mon-keigh behaviour
>>475325826She never went away. Her account in Twitter has loads of commissioned art. She never stops
>>475274313Vanguard = tank better and also counter attackArch Militant = shoot harder if you alternate single/burst/other abilitiesBounty Hunter = click on 3 enemies and then if someone else kills them you get a short extra turnAssassin = hit a lot harderMaster Tactician = hit harder and buff othersGrand Strategist = goes first and can click on areas to make people there hit harder/be harder to hit etc
>>475294253>genestealer cults sitting at the highest winrate currentlywe're so fucking back
>>475337384Speaking about genesmoochers, is it just me or fight with them are kinda underwhelming? And I expected to fight hyrbrids too. There even is one
>>475340756It was underwhelming cause it happened very late in the game and you are a mobile stick of death while space marine in terminator armor are the equivalent of a fridge wich can electrocute you for genestealers
>>475325327Why people got obsession about that triangle?
>>475340756Would have been cool to have a big fight with the Dargonus GSC.
>>475341298I thought genestealers first in Act 2 on the landed colony ship. My Yrlikek made them suck laser and other crewmembers kinda did good too, though they did good damage to Argenta. It was on hard
>>475341958femcels love powerful old ugly men, and wanna see Jimmi getting cuckedwhat's so hard to understand?
>>475341958persumably the kind of person who wants to fuck one inquisition guy might decide two is even better and calcazar is the guy in charge so he's better?
>>475340756it's cause it's literally just like 3 or 4 dudes in a rather uncramped map with large sightlines and at the point when you're already killing everything instantly. like, genestealers aren't gonna be threatening when they're outnumbered and outgunned by their enemyactual space hulk also has a few long sightlines, but terminators are really bulky, can only fit in single file, and are vastly outnumbered, so it feels suffocating and overwhelming
>>475344346>it's cause it's literally just like 3 or 4 dudes in a rather uncramped map with large sightlines and at the point when you're already killing everything instantly. like, genestealers aren't gonna be threatening when they're outnumbered and outgunned by their enemyWhich is weird because narratively it's played like there is supposed to be suspence and fear
>>475344346>>475344669would have been helped by just having it a bit earlier and having them keep coming until you retreator at least having more of them
>>475345445>swap its position on the map with the crashed blackship, infinite geniespawns, increase number and rate of daemon spawns in the balckship bossfightthoughts?
>>475346038might work, maybe add a choice to get out faster or investigate a bit so that people can risk fighting more and getting something out of it or running away and only fighting a fewalso yeah that would fix blackship difficulty if it's later in the game
Dev referred to the female assassin from the dlc as being feminine. We will have Camellia 2.0/ female Marazhai, after all.The hype and hopes I had for the dlc is now all gone, lol. Why should I pay money for a companion I'll shoot at first sight.
>>475355086You don't know anything about the character yet
>>475355212Read the lore on death cultists and tell me she will be someone sane. She will be a dogmatic fanatic, but with the edgy personality of Marazhai. Two characteristics I hate.
>She will be a dogmatic fanatic, but with the edgy personality of Marazhai. Two characteristics I hate.Get a load of this one's bad taste Evayne.
>>475355798>Anon posts an eldar corsair for some reason
>>475355086>Why should I pay money for a companion I'll shoot at first sightIsn't the dlc going to expand our ship? I doubt they'll lock that behind the new character
>dlc going to expand our shipOwlkek intentionally cut content from the base game to place it into this separate dlc you need to pay for. I don't appreciate this type of crap they pulled.
>>475355086I thought there was a huge demand for exactly a dogmatic female edgy companion, my thoughts were basically, good, all the guys that are mad that they can't fuck dogmatic female Marazhai can calm down now. Otherwise I'm bored of dogmatic human companions and I can't imagine a death cult assassin being too interesting so I don't really care if it's male/ female or romanceable/not. That said the dlc also has the ship stuff so maybe that's good.
Would it be possible for eldar femcel to melt Jimmy and how?
>>475363358Unless you mean physically melt him into goo with her warlock powers then no. >Eldar woman caring about Eldar hating mon-keigh assholenope>xenos-hating Inquisition dude caring about xenosnope
>>475355430true but we knew we were getting one, would being male have changed any of that?
Does Idira becoming friends with Argentina changes her ending? Is it the best ending?
Is the game fixed yet?
>>475364589Yeah she gets one where their friendship and going to the chapel helps her with her psyker problem somewhat and then she goes off on a pilgrimage. It's probably the best in that it's implied she lives at least somewhat longer but it's not clear how long. The ending where she goes on a trip with Jae, which you get if you were nice to her and she didn't use the device, is also a fairly good one but she definitely dies soon in that. You also get a variation if you had her reconnect with Vigdis or Vigdis and Argenta both.
>>475364710Major bugs = fixed in the big patch a few patches agoMinor bugs = some still around but you can go through the game just fine
>>475364589It gives a different ending yeah. It's a good one.
>>475365114How do I make her reconnect with Vigdis?
>>475365395When Theodora's spirit shows up and you have to talk down Idira you have to tell her Vigdis is worried about her, then on the bridge bring that up again.
>>475364352>would being male have changed any of that?Yes. They are not insane enough to write another male murderhobo companion like Marazhai. If the assassin were male, he would've been on the chiller yet still cool side by virtue of Owlkek not copy pasting the exact same companion twice in a row.
>>475365757interesting take on it, it could also be a woman who isn't a dogmatic camellia cloneactually aren't some of them corrupted or borderline heretical, why are we assuming she has to be dogmatic
>>475365267Is the second half of the story fixed?
>>475366785fixed how, what did you want from it
>>475355798it's the dogmatic human part that sucks
>look for Marazhai/Yrliet smut>it's only in Chinese why
>>475367843Mostly to fuck Ulfar
>why are we assuming she has to be dogmaticBecause they are extremists by definition. Every degenerate thing they do is in the Emperor's name. Which is why they are easily corruptible by chaos.Besides, everyone and their mothers complained about there not being a "proper" dogmatic or heretical romance for male Rogue Traders. We already have 3 kind and nice female companions all suitable for Iconoclastic runs. The crazy one is missing from the picture.
>>475368197"Dogmatic humans support total Tau death so they are based." - Corsairfu
>>475370367they also support total Eldar death so no
>>475370640"Everyone has flaws mon-keigh, stop seething"
>>475368645Nope, that's still bugged
>>475359529I think they just ran out of time to do whatever they wanted to do. People found bits of ship-related stuff in toybox but they never finished it
>>475376749Alpha and beta versions of the game contained Astropath lines. The ship's Astropath which was cut and now relocated in the dlc. The entire game is like Swiss cheese, full of cut and unfinished content. Personally, I am not happy about having to pay for a dlc whose content should've been in the base game that I already paid for.
>>475370903The Imperium hunts eldar corsair ships for sport. Your Corsair waifu is as retarded as Yrlikek.
>>475379061>"Good. I like a bit of a challenge"
>>475378753>Astropath linesWhat's this mean exactly? I wasn't there for the alpha or beta. Was the Astropath a character back then?
>>475370367>>475370903I hope Evayne sees this sis
>>475379368Yes, Anon. The ship dlc with the assassin companion introduces important ship npcs that should've been in the base game. Like the surgeon (ship medic), astropath ( message sending) and so on.
>>475379830But where they characters back in the beta or not? If not, then I don't see how this is cut and relocated content rather than just standard DLC content.
>>475380721They had lines coded into the game's files. The Astrophat interacted with Calligos and Chorda. You cannot tell me there isn't a noticeable lack of interactions between you and the other RTs, because all of that got cut and later repurposed for dlc.
>>475381724>You cannot tell me there isn't a noticeable lack of interactions between you and the other RTsTrue, it's threadbare
>>475381724that's stuff that never got finished, not that they finished it and decided to cut it for no reason
>>475384735yeah, they never got to finish it. At least they had the decency to cut it out entirely. We should be grateful they repurposed it for a paid dlc. Unlike the already unfinished content they still have almost all coded in the game but refuse to finish it like Santiel's Pride, Nocturne and the Daemonette companions and so on.
>>475385729>We should be grateful they repurposed it for a paid dlcEmbarrassing
>>475385729>We should be gratefulNah, don't be grateful for stuff you're paying for. But you're right that there's nothing to seethe about here.
CAN SOMEONE EXPLAIN WHY THE FUCK IDIRA RANDOMLY EXPLODES INTO A DEMON WHEN I CAST A PSY ABILITYTHE PSY METER ISNT EVEN CLOSE TO FULL
>>475396861Because unsanctioned psykers always have a 5% chance of fucking shit up
>>475397024Thats fucking retarded it should just reload your last save instead
>>475396861>>475397229daemons aren't even that scaryif it were up for me, perils and psychic phenomena would work exactly like in the tabletop instead of this dull uninteresting binary shit
>>475396861rng
>>475398791how does it work in tabletop?
>>475398791actually on second thought, i take it back - daemonettes are very scary in act 1 specifically (they have really good dodge), but as long as idira can survive summoning them and get away, you can kill them>>475409825>you have to roll d10s to see if you succeed at a psykic power>the higher your psi rating, the more dice you can CHOOSE to roll (you don't have to roll all of them)>however, if you roll ANY 9s, psychic phenomena trigger>roll a d100 and refer to the psychic phenomena to see what happens (http://gagetowngaming.wikidot.com/psychic-phenomena) couldn't find it in image form>if you roll too poorly on psychic phenomena, perils of the warp trigger>roll a d100 and refer to picrel to see what Cool! and Fun! effect happens to you and the mortals unfortunate enough to be stood next to youthe only mechanical difference between sanctioned and unsanctioned psykers is that sanctioned psykers can fudge their casting rolls a bit to try to dodge phenomena/perils and unsanctioned psykers get hit with corruption on character creation (a stat that didn't make it to the video game; corruption measures the effect of warp exposure on your body and soul, while insanity measured, well, your insanity. it was hard to get rid of, near unavoidable depending on which system you were running, and if it got too high you got shot)also sanctioned psykers got a fun table to see what things happened to them during the sanctioning
>>475413230>>475409825this is the sanctioning tablewhile some effects are obviously very hard to translate to a video game and don't mesh well with the you-only-have-one-main-character-and-companions-are-unique approach that CRPGs take, i'm still disappointed they deviated so much from this. it really conveyed the idea that being a psyker is FAR more of a curse than a blessing, and every single psyker was a ticking time bomb - it wasn't a question of IF they would lose control and take everyone down with them, but WHEN, y'know?
>>475413230>>475413707this is pretty cool (and scary). they coulda implemented a few of these sanctioning effects as choices instead of like triumph and darkest hour for psykers or smth kinda like how you have different forge world options that would have been neat
Alright I’ll ask againCan you actually fully kit out 6 space marines geared companions
>>475424354no, of course noteven if you could find 5 extra space marines, there isn't even enough space marine wargear (aside from weapons, which if you're a traitor marine drop in abundance) in RT to kit them out
A lot of people are saying RT is one of the best RPGs ever, do you agree?
>>475429949no, it's not even closei enjoyed it though
>>475429949They should play more rpgs
>>475430374Mortismal ranks it at no5: https://youtu.be/UK493O40S7E?si=hJ_WyIymPzreAA2S
>>475429949Well I don't rank things necessarily, it just goes into the list of ones I really liked.
>>475429949>righteous reflection>commits total eldar death>is approaching calcazar rationally>uses the best heavy bolter>cursed reflection>blew up commoragh by flinging literally every member of house orsellio at it through the warp>glorious reflection>did a full zero-to-hero ALONE after being the only bridge officer to survive the prologue>sacrificed cassia for a more powerful ally>owns literally the entire expanse>understands that the only things that matter are I, Me, and Myself>merciful reflection>"e-e-erm, p-please don't fight!"why is the iconoclast such a pussy? is he stupid?
Should I get yrilet if my main guy is already a sniper?What do I get if I kill her?
>>475434952based
>>475438368>Should I get yrilet if my main guy is already a sniper?Sure, why not? Recruit people based on whether you like them, then leave them on them on the ship if they're not useful in combat.>What do I get if I kill her?Dogmatic good boy points
>>475435652>blew up commoragh lol, lmao evenspoiler: it's not the size of a city
>>475438368Not like having two OP characters hurts, snipers are extremely useful.>What do I get if I kill her?Nothing. Or a few dogma points or something but you can even get those while keeping the Eldar around so it doesn't really matter. Roleplaying if your character would do that.
>>475439737why should i bother remembering details when i can have abelard do that for me?
>>475441939he probably doesn't know either
>>475368589surprised no one's tried, they have two endings where you could make it workguess that it's because they are both romanceable by the mc
Redress mod finally lets me steal Abelard's coat
>>475449752Wait, it lets you put the RT in other people's outfits? Just companions or npcs too? I have to get this thing now.
>>475454481>Just companions or npcs tooAll of the above as far as I can tell. You include or exclude individual pieces. A bit fiddly, but very flexible.
>>475454973Cool, going to experiment with this.
>Warp Travel event that swap everyone's underwear
>>475464217now that seems awkward
>>475454973trying this but the includes only show a short list of things and this outfit isn't on it
>>475370903I liked original Corsairfu better, this is just the mon-keigh fantasy versionit's like how Eldrathain would never be ok with killing craftworld Eldar
>>475485041Can’t stand this kids art i’m sorry I know they’re just a kid but I can’t
>>475479926I mean it's kind of the same, since overall they know humanity isn't their friend and is generally out to get them. It's just the particular contingent of humans that is willing to ally with them (Spire and co, Evayne and co)
>>475491653Well this seems to have started over one anon roleplaying Corsairfu as thinking humans who want to kill all xenos are based because they also want to murder all Tau along with Eldar, which is a bit silly. Corsairfu who likes Evayne because he's more of an Iconoclast is nice and makes more sense.
Anyone know if the dlc is still out in June? Hope we start getting a bit more info soon.
>>475491205ok but what about my art :)
>>475491205>I know they’re just a kidhuh? I thought he was a grown man
Is Rogue Trader worth it in the end? I had this game on the backburner for a while, but in every other Owlcat game I remember losing interest around Act 2.
>>475500663Well personally I really like it and have played it several times despite playing Kingmaker once and still not finishing WoTR. It really gets the atmosphere, characters are good, there are different ways to handle most problems, combat is generally fun, major bugs have been fixed so idk, if you like crpgs it's a good one.
>>475495581No adult draws THAT shittiliy
>>475501125lol
>>475500663what made you quot the other ones around act 2, the integration of kingdom/crusade management?
>>475502143I guess I felt like the pacing is dropping. There was too much busywork involved with everything and I never felt like I'm getting enough payoff. I like complex cRPG, but sometimes I feel like Owlcat cRPG are bloated for the sake of bloated.
>>475502980the sense of momentum with the plot of wotr is way, WAY better than that of rogue trader, but the non-RPG mechanics are far, FAR better integrated into the game itself
>>475503646>the non-RPG mechanics of rogue trader are way better integrated into the game than in WOTRfixed
>>475502980I do think Rogue Trader was better at that, there's some colony management but it never feels like typical Owlcat busywork, it's simpler and more intuitive and doesn't feel like it takes away from the story.
I wish Froggy moves here
>>475505508fuck noalso he can't, there are femcels and marazhai pics here
>>475504050I think the Colony Events need to be changed to really make them good. Nothing crazy but the "you need to show up" stuff should be a mix of space battles and generic map fights like the ones you get for going through the warp.
>>475506673Oh yeah, the generic ones that you have to go to are the weak point in this. I don't like how you have to go there for everything to begin with, they can get annoying. But the idea of having your resources and colony stats play a role and be able to get you better outcomes was good.
>>475505642Isn't Froggy a major Owlcat hater anyway
>>475507913Yes but he or his copycat spam stupid RT-related shit in /crpgg/ and /v/.
What npc(s) would you want to receive their own character portrait?
>>475509261Muaran
>>475509261the edge of daybreak and the shard
>>475510671Edge has one.
>Want to make a Commissar because it's thematically cool>Crime Lord is just betterThere should really be a Commissar talent to make At All Costs apply an Armour/Dodge debuff or an increase on incoming damage to affected enemies so you can do more than give an ally a bonus turn once per combat.
>>475511695>give an ally a bonus turn once per combat.I mean that's pretty useful, most of the origins don't do much anyway, I mostly pick by the outfits I want.
>>475509261Marazhai needs an alternative portrait with his hair down for extra pantydropping
>>475509910Wonder if it's illegal to make a mod that gives him and other npcs like Abel character portraits from official artworks. This one kinda looks similar the RT's artstyle.
>>475518638agreed
>>475520408I doubt that it's illigal
>You came back from the dark, elantach? Unharmed>I will be close, elantach. And I will support you in the coming trials if you choose to let meWhat's the coolest moments in Cummorrag?
>>475523665When Marazhai stuffs me in my sleep so hard Ulfar tells me I smell of him several days laterthis is canon
>>475523665Convincing those 2 drukhari convoy leaders from different kabals to fight for the honour of being the first to torture my RT. I was not expecting them to take the bait seriously, but they sure did. I tactfully moved my party in corners and waited for the bloodbath to finish, lol.
>>475524195M-maybe he just cuddled us...Maybe he has a very strong perfume...
>>475526061>very strong perfumeBlood and semen flavour
>>475526717M-maybe he carried us to the trial oh his shoulder
>>475527089He carried, but it wasn't the shoulder
>>475523665>You came back from the dark, elantach?When she says this even though we literally just walked in the room together
>>475520408>illegalNah, people make stuff like this all the time.https://www.nexusmods.com/warhammer40kroguetrader/mods/21
>>475527691T-then how
>>475527869>Bold words for someone within Killing Edge's range
>>475530120I wonder if the Admech will ever forgive me
>>475528696Piggy-back ride
>>475532915B-but how did we hold on if we were p-passed out
>>475534268his armor has spikes, you were mutilated, pit two and two together
>>475534350He has no spikes on his pretty back
>>475524195>friendly terms>smell of someone>stink of xenosHe did us over a mountain of half-dead bodies didn't he?
>>475539690>no spikesThat's just what he wants you to think
>>475540906Why do I find that so hot
Pasqal should obviously be a melee bounty hunter
>>475538908Most of them would be angel/aeonfags, Idira Yrliet and Jae would be azata/tricksterfags and Marazhai would be a demon/lichfag
>>475543181Well, he IS a predator whose prey is knowledge...
>>475543537Talk to Vigdis so she tells you they've grown apart. Then when Idira has her warp freakout, you have to snap her out of it by saying Vigdis is worried. Then back on the bridge, encourage her to talk to Vigdis.
>>475544036Yrliet isn't afraid to offend you though. Her respect (when she respects you...) feels more genuine.
>>475545816I think Yrliet, Ulfar, and stoicHeinrix would always push you to Legend. The rest would depend on your path.
What happens on the heretic route when you defeat Edge of daybreak and make him submit?
Reddit says the heretic playthrough is lame and shitIs this true?
>>475548071go back
>>475548537This general is basically the exact same, just people spamming shit artwork and jerking off to gay shitI just wanna talk about the game ffs
Not to beat a dead horse but wow it feels like either GW really doesn’t want gay romances or that Owlcat kind of… didn’t care? Idk as a lesbian woman who enjoys 40k this is doubly disappointing just because I Literally have two options. Romance one character or none.Genuinely baffling to me, like ngl this news kind of came out of nowhere for me. I haven’t really been following the news cycle, so I just assumed it would be a normal Owlcat affair. Hell I hoped I’d perhaps get to kiss an Eldar favorite faction).I was kind of already on the fence on getting the game when it released but I think this might be the deciding factor on how long I’ll wait to pick it up. Who knows, maybe modders will rescue me again. God knows they’ve had to do it for other crpgs like mass effect 2.
>>475548537lmao this general is filled with redditors, might as well kick 90% of it off
>>475548809Male gays are more common than lesbians in 40k circles and they literally get one option only (admittedly it's the best romance in the game but still)You are fairly privileged
>>475548809There's just fewer romances in general. By my count, the last game had 7 options, 3 of which were women for women (1 of which not a companion anyway), this one has 5 and 2 respectively, so it's not exactly a purge.
>>475548809>Copy paste random reddit postWhy?
>Random middle of nowhere early game optional zone>30 fucking enemiesGOd I love spending a whole hour in combat, I wonder if I'm gonna spam lidless stare or some shit, why tHE fuck do they do this shit man, literally so fucking annoying
i think that romance in video games was a mistake, if you ask me>>475550240pretty sure the sword gives you (veil/5) psi-rating every time you swing it
>>475553874it's actually way, way easier to deal with than you think, most of those act 1 massive enemy count encounters get cleared in like 5-10 minutes. enemies taking turns in unison really helped with the pacing. the only exception was the lens room, which if you approach from the wrong angle makes it take forever to advance close enough to clear.a couple of lightning arcs, burst fires, or lidless stares and like half of the encounter gets cleared. if it really bothers you that much, the enemy counts reduce dramatically after rykad minoris and footfall
I still wonder why it took this long to make a 40k game like this. This is probably some of the best advertisenment for the minis GW got since DOW.
If we get another warhammer game, which campaign module would you like to see adapted?
>>475560348The devs are currently playing a Dark Herecy campaign as per their twitter so you might be onto something
>>475559903>>475560348>>475560778given that owlcat has a massive hardon for position-of-authority power fantasies with management mechanics, i feel like it's pretty limited>deathwatchyou're boots on the ground commandos, not the guys in charge>only warit would have worked if you play as command staff, but you're boots on the ground soldiers being ordered around by regimental command>dark heresyyou're low level inquisitiorial henchmen conducting investigations. it could work if you use the higher power ruleset that allows stuff like interrogators or sisters of battle>black crusadeworks 100%, but i dunno if they'll ever make a game where you aren't allowed to larp as a good guy if they already wrote it in for rogue trader
Next game will have warhammer mythic levels
What act do you get the dark elf you fags keep masturbating to
>>475564429I'm not proud to say that I'd like that.
>>4755645353
warhammer end times CRPG when? i want a fucking vampire companion
>>475565107ENTERTHE TRUE LORD OF THE END TIMES
>>475565469Alarielle romance???
What order of planets do I go to after janus
>>475566446Dargonus kicks off another storyline, so you might wanna do Kiava Gamma before starting that.
>>475564535>>475564973You meet him in act 2 though, and you get an achievement for passing him off when he first talks to you, which I missed because I kept trying to rizz him.But if you try to rizz him in the beginning of act 3 he'll start flirting back
>>475566446whichever one you run into first don't worry about it
>a single space marine and a bunch of litteral whos are able to beat a lord a change
>>475565646Step down weak toothed bitch. You won't penetrate shit with those furniture peg lookin' ass fangs.
>>475567683>Not going Dargonus first so you can give Pasqal a Multimelta then ditching it a few hours later for a heavy plasma gunGod I wish there was a unique Multi in the game so I could justify the 5 talent tax to use one.
>>475570849The way you won is pretty unbelievable in setting but Rogue Traders and Inquisitors are the kind of assholes that carry around shit that can banish greater Daemons that haven't had time to properly establish themselves and build a horde of lesser daemons.
found on some forum
>>475520408not sure but would need crudarach's color scheme, it's a little different
>tfw new to 40k>discover Emperor/Primarchs yaoi is a thing where they're depicted like JJBA characters Okay I'm starting to love this fandom
>>475575389>outcast loser>lilaethan hippie
>>475581384>fulgrim and sanguinius in the same room
New player; I want to do too much shit with my RT and I dunno how to go about it. Is it possible to make a character that's good with both melee and ranged, but can also persuade and shit?I really like the image of a dashing commander with sword and pistol.
>>475570849a rogue trader, navigator with special powers, psykers, a dracon etc are not literal whos or a space marine as much of a literal who as themalso it just manifested and part of it was in the other shards of the blade, wasn't it? it wasn't at full power
>>475582848itIs hard, you kinda have to specialize somewhat. But you can be good at, say, guns, have a sword just in case and get the persuasion and/or coercion talents and get items to boost skills and stats. Maybe an Arch Militant build might work since it's about using different types of attacks so guns, swords, and the talent that boosts both your weapon and ballistic skills based on the other would help.
>>475582848Sort of, though you'll probably want to prioritize what your RT's core focus is at first and then branch out. Arch-militant works great for sword and pistol, and since versatility buffs BS and WS, you can get away with having a bit less base attributes there if you want to add in persuasion as well. Might have to sacrifice some combat buffs on the high end to get be worthwhile with combat and persuasion though, but I still think it'd be doable if you accept your RT probably won't be quite as good as a character with more narrow specialization.
>>475575389funny but actually wrong and out of character>she doesn't sell you out>snipers are based>doesn't call you mon'keigh>doesn't want to stay on lilaethan>marazhai insults your species all the time>he does give a fuck about his kin which is the point of his quest but he hides it well
>>475568804it doesn't matter what you say to him the first time or at the trial you can recruit and romance him later pretty easily
>>475583892>cares about his kinTrue, he really seethes hard when you obliterate his kabal's ships while he watches out the window.
>>475583892>he does give a fuck about his kin which is the point of his quest but he hides it wellhe doesn't give a fuck about his kin, he gives a fuck about having power.
>>475583556>>475583863Alternatively is it possible to make a sniper that can dual pistols, use some kinda burst fire weapon, or use a shotgun or something for closer/bunched up enemies?
>>475584189he can't become an archon without the members of the kabal of the reaving tempest. he does not have personal attachments to them like they're all butt buddies
Can someone explain wtf pattern is on guns?
>>475575389>stops calling you mon-keigh if you force himBut we all know he's still thinking it right? He used that word like punctuation back when he was in control.
>>475584302Yes, since BS and PER will help any guns, but there are a lot of talents that are specifically for single shot, burst fire, etc. so switching weapon types will be less efficient or result in less powerful attacks. Fits with Arch-militant still though, so should be doable.
>>475584175Yeah but you get really hot lines if you try to rizz him e.g. this one (spoilers obv)
>>475584643Definitely unless you romance him and do it right to prove you are better than a mon-keigh, and if you're squeamish instead he does call you a mon-keigh in a mocking or teasing way. He tries not to say it directly to you but he says it about humans all the time.
>>475585045Yeah or if you agree to do what he says later, though I still prefer the persuasion and headbutt option, it should be like foreplay for him.
>>475585045Yep. He raped us.
>>475585476Yeah, it doesn't even bother me, I just think it's funny how Yrliet gets memed to oblivion for it when she and him are exactly the same: mon-keigh for the species at large, elantach/firstname for you specifically.
>>475585653Tbh I should do a rerun with more confrontational lines, I was constantly teasing Tervantias and he yielded comedy gold as a result>>475585731This game blessing you with huge bionically-augmented trueborn cock no matter what you is a new dimension of based
>>475586014I blame it on Yrliet's combat barks which are clearly not supposed to be adressed to you personally but people assume that and remember her saying mon-keigh. Also she's otherwise ridiculously compassionate by not wanting you to kill humans who murdered her people, being horrified seeing servitors, generally being sad about humans being harmed etc, Marazhai is all lol, lmao at everything as expected.
>>475585731actual speedreading
>>475586328Tervantias' dialogue is hilarious, I tried all variations on that. The orgy couch and the sentient soup ones were great.
How important is ship combat
>>475586906There's a lot of it and it helps to learn to be good at it. Just take a moment to think about where ships will be AFTER the current turn's movement when you consider where to move.
>>475586360Can't believe combat barks actually get under anyone's skin like that. Like when you tell Cassia to use her third eye to unleash the reality-sundering power of the warp, and she says maybe the serfs could handle that... Do these people think Cassia is actually that stupid? Obviously the barks aren't meant to be literal dialogue.
>>475586853How do you get the soup? Do you have screenshots?
>>475584250>>475584419caring about your kabal members in that tsundere i-it's not like I care or anything I j-just need them to gain power way but acting like he's physically hurt when you kill a hanful of them is the most you'll ever get from a drukhari in generalyou can tell he's trying to act tough if he has to kill them all at the end but he's fucking devastated and despite getting power as a corsair it's clearly treated as a worse ending
He's not that deep but damn he's well-written for what he is. Just rock-solid characterisation. Not one thing out of place.
>>475587524being a corsair and being an archon are two entirely different things. the actuality is that losing the kabal loses his entire position to become an archon aka what he's been working to achieve his entire life. if he had to murder his entire kabal to be archon he'd do it.
>>475587239Not right now but if you try every possible way to tell him off it's in one of those.
>>475587752>>475587524You realise he has a relationship/fwb thing with one of the twinks in the cabal? If he's even remotely as attached to Kharael as he is to the RT in a good ending, then killing them must have really hurt
>>475587748That size difference.
>>475587979i highly doubt he's never experienced having a relationship with someone and then them dying, to which he exclaims they were too weak to survive or something. death is a common occurrence in commorragh
>>475587752I mean by that logic no drukhari ever cares about anyone because it's all partly self-interested, which, sure. But there's that space where they can sort of care in that these are people connected to him who are useful and mostly loyal and them being killed is therefore bad, like that time Yllithian and his trueborn retinue are getting btfo by mandrakes in the deldar novels and sure, most of his thoughts on the matter are rational but there's that emotional part that these are actual people that aren't easily replaced so this fucking sucks.
>>475588409But trueborns come back all the time, no?
>>475586683That's referring to the Ulfar post here >>475524195, not to the capture scene.
>>475566446I used to do Kiava first but Dargonus is easier to get to and the Emporium project is great for new route cost.
>>475589013>the Emporium project is great for new route costForgot about that. Yes, that's worth it.
>>475588596depends on when they die, how they die, who their haemonculi is, which god has grips on their soul, and how much resources they have, and duration of death.that is of course if they don't experience a true death.
>Want to larp as Cypher>4 talents and 45 strength minimum requirements\>No real advantage to power armour for ranged buildsOne day I'll do my dream dual pistol build.
Are plasma guns good?
>>475587115Yeah but she has a lot of them so people who don't care or hate her to begin with like to point to that.
Do i really have to find 3 lost elves for yrielt?What a lame quest
>>475594836It's a companion quest, you don't have to do them if you don't want to / don't care about the companion.
>>475562458Makes sense, it's also a way to let you still go against Imperial dogma and hang out with xenos which most human 40k characters wouldn't get to do.
>>475529298>Assassin Yrliet which was garbage in the demo.I can't even imagine that.
>>475581294>crudarach colour schemeDoes it ever get mentioned in the game or in the artbook?
>>475604553Yeah, it's mostly blue and white.https://www.youtube.com/shorts/7IIxWB5x9cU
>>475606101Clearer look at Muaran from the artbook. Yep. Looks like Crudarach's colours are indeed blue and white.
Ironic how they match the Valancius house sigil's colour scheme.
>>475606737Wish they had their own glyph
>>475606737>>475607089Also the Iconoclast version of the ship having a blue scheme, it all goes together nicely.
>>475607368Agreed! I like that subtle detail.
This game was decent 40k. Shame it'll be dead soon because of poor sales.
how does theodora have a crypt if we dumped her body into a giant furnace?
Why are there so many deleted posts?General was at 700+ last time I cheked
>>475614159seems like one guy was banned and all his posts removed
Ok, fine, I'll budge. I have a week to spare and I like 40k.What am I in for? Does the game really fall apart in the latter half?
>>475614594>Does the game really fallKinda. But if you've got the game in front of you, just dive in and make up your own mind.
>>475614594Good crpg that does wh40k atmosphere right and really makes you feel like you're playing a powerful RT in charge of multiple planets and getting involved in all kinds of fucked up shit.>Does the game really fall apart in the latter half?I wouldn't say it falls apart necessarily, just that it's clear that acts 4 and 5 were rushed and they're both together like half of act 2. If act 2 was shorter it wouldn't stand out that much but since it's the most polished part of the game it makes the latter ones look bad by comparison. There's also some content they didn't get to finish and left only some parts in but it's only very obvious on one optional planet.
>>475611749Her ashes are in an urn inside the fancy, expensive crypt. She was the dynasty's ruler, so her corpse would not be thrown inside the public peasants-only furnace.
>>475614594>Does the game really fall apart in the latter half?You are required to headcanon a lot of stuff from act 3 onward for the story to appear cohesive. The game does a not so great job at it by itself. Make of that what you will.
>>475615515nta but like what? all I can think of is having to think about why a dogmatic character would follow Calcazar but you can find enough of those
>>475607260Yeah, they really should have come up with something.
does beating the game or getting a specific ending give any item or stuff for future runs?
>>475619106Nope
>>475610978>poor salesSales are fine, people are afraid to play owlshit early though because they're been burned twice
>>475572610there is one>multimelta>45-90 base damage, 90% AP>anyone who's hit by its AoE explodes dealing 25 damage in a 2-cell radius>is obtained, i shit you not, a single room before the final boss
>>475615631nta but dogmatic RT has a lot more narrative leeway when dealing with that character. A radical dogmatic would go along with them. You even have an ending slide together if you do so. While a puritanical dogmatic RT would want to punish them in the Emperor's name for their heretical actions.
>>475623573I thought the others had it even easier, Iconoclast wants to stop him killing people with the superweapon, Heretic wants to get the power for themselves, Neutral wants to stop him fucking with the protectorate and being a threat to their power.
Chadbel Haneumann
>>475624201Tbh, what makes this narrative break apart for all alignments is having to bear witness to the info dumping he does in the last act. Logically, once you caught up with him, you should put a bullet in his head but you can't. The game cockblocks you. You have to listen to his villain speech since that's the only cohesive plot explanation you will ever get.
>>475625915Yeah I think some of that was supposed to be in the cut act 4 content like Santiel's Pride, you already have the drukhari alliance in Heinrix's quest, the secret tech project in Eufrates, the admech connection in Pasqal's quest and the hint that he stole Tervantias' stuff, plus theNecrons/Nomos hints in act 5. Really it should have had checks to figure these out and then be able to confront him with them instead of having everything spelled out for you.
>>475627071I concur. It would've felt more natural having to confront him on what we uncovered via the dialogue lines we unlocked. The revelation buildup should've been us bringing up accusations like puzzle pieces, and having him filling up any gaps we might've otherwise missed. Instead we have info dumping with no tension. The RT during that scene doesn't even seem to be invested in what's being revealed.
>>475627926Yeah, there's even the precedent with the Rykad governor where if you had enough clues you could convince him there was more to the rebellion.
What were your reaction when you found out this game gonna have canon romancable eldar?
help
>>475523665>the trial if you pass all the checks>the Chasm where you're hallucinating and everything is fucked up, Tervantias dark humor etc>recruiting Marazhai and everyone being shocked and horrified at it>figuring out Nocturne's speech>entire escape part and tricking the kabals into fighting each other>high altitude handholding with Marazhai>Eklendyl and just the surreal convo where you're in evil elf hell but you're trying to convince sad grumpy rescued elf that it's fine for you and Yrliet to be close>ending with webway cutscene which I hope inspires some dlc
>>475630195Eldar of all kinds are my favorite factions in 40k so pretty fucking happy. Pic related is for canon romanceable deldar.
>>475624201>neutral wants to stop himwhile yes, i heard him out and decided that helping him bind the star god before stealing it for myself was a much more profitable actionwe ended up parting ways semi-amicably and he later died to an acute case of repeated astartes power boot to the skull
>>475630501Try finger, but hole
I saw people posting about him a lot so I was excited to meet him but when I finally did meet him Marazhai is kind of a tryhard loser and he's also very obviously not a positive influence on your goals or well-being. So was all the posting an ironic joke?
>>475633802It's just two die hard fans simping over this loser. We tend to ignore them as we did with Jimmy femcels. Both are equally as annoying if you asked me.
>>475633802>he's also very obviously not a positive influence I mean, he's a deldar, that's their thing. Marazhai's "good" points are that he's entertaining as fuck, has hilarious banter and reactions from everybody, is very useful in fights if you build him right, he's a hot badboy elf for people who are into that (ahem), there's a novelty to being able to recruit and fuck what was one of the main villains, and really he's mostly loyal once you get him to join and his questline is good. If you just met him in act 2 it takes a while to get to all this so please report back when you see more, he's kind of a love him or hate him character.
>>475634119>We tend to ignore them as we did with Jimmy femcelsThe /v/ threads were quite literally nothing but husbandofags circlejerking each other nonstop you didn't ignore jack shit
>>475634119Nta but I like the more thought out Marazhai discussion and lore talk, less so the generic image spam and ooc parts, depends on the poster.
>>475634502>you didn't ignore jack shitAm I suddenly a collective entity? I and others ignored them, others didn't.
>>475634502Not true, there was also Yrliet haters vs Yrliet fans and xenos lovers/haters.
>>475620852>spoilerClassic owlcat
>>475633802The Marazhai experience is like adopting a poorly socialised, scar covered cat. It will scratch up your furniture and have the most nightmarish zoomies all night long, and it will slowly assert itself over your life. But like with the cat, you will love him to death.
>go to a degenerate RT discord>it's full of toasterfuckers (Pasqual simps)whycan someone explain why
>>475639184there's a lot of admech twink yaoi for some reason, I don't get it either
Anons who are new to RT, what do you think about it so far? Any favorite characters, classes, questlines etc?
>>475355086more women in my 40K, that's the ticket!
>>475640310hehe, navigator go -*-
>>475641495based, her powers are so much fun
Does Nocturne ever comments on Yrlikek getting mon-keked?
>>475634906I just toyboy those kind of items in earlier.
>>475647352Nocturne approves of you helping Eldar and can sort of become friends with you, I don't think he'd have a problem with you and Yrliet being close.
Why is there even lock picking keys and mechshit if I can just open everything first try
>>475650316because there will be harder skill checks later and you won't always pass thoseor you won't have pasqal or jae with you
>>475630823you could have fought him and gotten it anyway but seems like it all worked out
>>475565107End Times was shit but a WH Fantasy crpg would be nice.
>>475655048They were roommates
>>475610978It sold well though
There aren't that many Marazhai fanfics, but they're masterpieces, all of them
so, should be two months at most until the ship dlcany news?
>>475667919
>>475668053oh well, if there's at least more stuff in it that's cool
Interesting that there's more to it than the description, it did seem a little too short for a dlc so maybe other quests?
>tfw ridiculously attached to the companions in this game>legit sad I cant experience any more of them
Guys im about to lower the difficulty. THis is just impossible
>>475679056git gud
>>475679056>Yremeryss fightEvery time. Here's the trick: put everyone on the stairs, the highest they can be without getting hit by incubi is the very first square next to the stairs. Focus on getting down the stairs asap killing the grotesques as you go. Set up behind cover as far as possible and snipe everything other than Yremeryss, then when incubi/grotesques are dead have Yrliet shoot her. You have Abelard and Marazhai so let them tank when needed while Yrliet and Argenta shoot.
>>475679875No the trick is to git gud and have your party barrel over the xenos scum.
>>475680047>xenos scumYrliet and Marazhai are always the mvps of that fight for me.
>>475677893samewait for dlcstry different groups for different quests, I keep finding new bantertry to get different/better outcomes for their quests
>>475679056I was running the exact same party and it was easy af. Everything after the malice fight was giga easy
>>475681584>>475679056Although, Marazhai needed a good two-handed sword to shine for me. Once I got him one from a colony quest, he was critting for 1k+ and if I officer buffed him he became completely untouchable. Facetanked the final boss like no problem while spanking it with fat crits
>>475681584nta but this fight is a difficulty jump that's very obvious if you're on your first playthrough with inevitably suboptimal builds and so far you've made do with that2nd time around is easier because you know what to do also depends on the difficulty, normal you can easily win with that party and bad builds but hard less so
>>475681892Never tried giving him a 2h sword, which one was this? He does great with two swords especially after this fight when he gets the Yremeryss djinn blade.
The actual hardest act 3 fight for me was commissar when I didn't have Abelard. Only way I managed it was on normal, the rest I went fuck it and went to fight Malice instead. Any tips for that assuming only Yrliet and Argenta?
>>475682815for me it was malice and chronos pain engineit turns out that, in the crpg with bullshit turn cheating, the only hard fights are the ones where the enemy also gets bullshit turn cheating
>>475684898Malice wasn't that bad because you just had to survive a few turns. Chronos was annoying but you could have all your party members and equipment by then. Commissar is so bad because you have neither and are forced to start the fight with everyone in the open with basically no way to even stay in cover because there are enemies everywhere.
>>475684898Yup, Uralon made me bump down to Daring for that reason. Even Edge of Daybreak was somehow easier.
>>475682815I disliked the Sslyth that got a free turn after you more.
>>475685473nta and holy fuck that Uralon fight was horribleeven with taking the long route I kept having people die the first few turns no matter what
Edge fight was really bad because of the annoying shield mechanic and the pink horror spam being laggy as fuck.
>>475685375wait shit sorry i didn't mean to say malice, it was the other ssylthe in the arena. though, that guy was hard because certain things don't correctly reset between rounds in that gauntlet>>475685473uralon was actually really easy for me because argenta autokilled everything that didn't steal her turn (even then she killed some things through it) or that reset the fight but didn't let you use heroic acts again
>>475685648which one was this, malice or the arena sslyth
>>475686506Arena, only difficulty with Malice is that your gear is shit tier.
>>475686407Oh right, that one was pretty hard too, there was another hard arena fight with a pain engine I think.
>>475686667yeah plus you can just hunker down and heal for three turns
>>475686293i expected edge to be really intense but his damage was so terrible that it was kind of boring
>>475687265He can end up being trouble if you get unlucky with his teleportation and all the line of sight weirdness in that fight.
Cassia
It's funny how many of my harder fights end up with just Yrliet hiding and sniping everyone while Marazhai dodge tanks everything including most of Yrliet's overpenetrating shots. I imagine the in universe banter would be hilarious.
>>475688912>Not tankmaxing with Jae and Jimmy
>>475689170Yrliet and Marz are more funAbelard is better for tanking anyway
>>475688912>>475689170>not having 50+ deflection on an officer rogue trader by simply being very coersive
>>475689995>>475689995
>>475634119Who's "we"?Not your personal army, fag.