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>>483512241Bump
>>483512561If you're doing arahabaki strats they're really good
>>483512561They’re good for conserving MP but that’s about it.
I think Lilith design in SMT IV is the best one.
>>483514098You have the right to be wrong but keep your braindead takes to yourself.
Thoughts on these changes to buffs and debuffs?Single target buffs genuinely feel like shit to use so I wanted to make them target all like in the previous games. But I also wanted to leave a niche open for the Ma-kaja/kunda skills by making them apply their stat x2. This even lets them not get completely replaced by Luster Candy/Debilitate. Mana costs are mostly based on IV Apocalypse.Also if you think they should also be permanent I disagree. The decision making required with timed buffs is much more interesting than set it and forget it buffs.
I finished the game on switch emulator and just bought the Steam version Starting the new playthrough on Hard no NG+What a masterpiece
>the angel remodelit's over
i freakin' love shinigami sensei
>>483514662NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
>>483512561Have we actually tested how much Charge and Concentrate increase damage in Vengeance? Because the editor says it increases by 2.5x.
Why is Agrat the only qaditsu not showing up in my special fusions? Did I fuck up somehow?
Slowpoke here, why are equipment and hp phys skills gone? If this is the cost of 3D animations, I want to go back to 2D. Mermaid tummy isn't worth this.
>>483516606>why are equipment and hp phys skills gone?god has abandoned us
>>483516606Phys skills costing HP has been gone since IV. Equipment is gone due to the whole "Nocturne reference!" set up, with Essences replacing the Magatama.
>>483517063>gone since IVIT'S BEEN GONE SINCE STRANJE JOURNEY HOLY FUUUUUUUUUUUUUCK!
>>483517215>>483517063I've played 4, 4A and ST, were they really gone there? I remember them being there too
What is with people’s obsession with physical skills costing HP lately?
>>483514328seethe
Fucking idiots, all of you.
>>483516606>why are equipment and hp phys skills gone?The casual audience is too retarded to risk small a percentage of HP for damage even though they can heal it with a fucking Life Stone right in the next press turn depending on party management and modern devs think way too much about "Quality of Life™" instead of creating something good.
>>483518220no u
>>483518220and furthermore cope
Why doesn't smt have a map drawing feature? Atlus has the tools.
>>483518492I like nipples
>>483515484It's 1.8x. The tool most likely changes it back to the old 2.5x value. Not like it matters since Omnipotent Succession is a better version of both skills
>>483518728But why? SMT don't even have dungeon crawling anymore hell not even the non destroyed buildings are explorable in the last game.
me and my pet
>>483519409NTA but some games like death stranding benefit from a map drawing feature, however in SMTV's case i think the skyview function serves well enough with any map confusion.
Was this a good change?
I have decided to purchase SMT VV as my first mainline SMT game. Wish me luck!I played Soul Hackers 2 and even got some enjoyment out of it, so I'm not worried
Can you still cheese demifiend with adversity and figment slash?
>>483520336have fun!
Is there any reason to play the original Canon of Creation campaign? Is it worth it?
>>483520529Masakado is locked behind it
ugly ass mf
the gay horse is going to die
>>483520891Odin is so cool
I want to fuck Mirai
Mermaid naizuri
>>483520123I think a better compromise would be it obscures the map on the first play-through but on subsequent ones it doesn't.
>>483521720yeah, i agree. maybe it was removed after the skyview feature was implemented because even if i think skyview is a great addition, i know i barely use it unless im REALLY having trouble finding a path to get a glory crystal or something.
his shoes are so loud
Mastema’s seiyuu fucking NAILS his delivery when he uses Great Lament, holy shit it’s great.>>483520336Have fun anon.
>>483521902I use it to check what altitude a miman or something is at.
You're right, Yoko... Yes, Yoko... Maybe that's true... Whatever you say goes for me... Just step on me and tell me what to do...
>>483522828same
>>483520336Have fun anon. Play SMT IV next as I think that's the peak of mainline. DeSu OC is peak overall
how do i have a better time in empyreanthese mobs are gay
I beat Lahmu and learned SMT characters have Personas now. Wow! Very neat
>>483524142you mean the demon summoning program?
>>483523958I can fix him
>>483524240Whatever the fuck it was Yuzuru did (my first time playing V)
>>483523958based spanish conquistador phenotype
>>483520891Zeus is so cool>KAKATTEKOI!!!
>>483524352Fuck not Yuzuru I meant Tao, whatever she did
>>483524547tao and yoko can use magic cuz they're saints. Yuzuru and dazai have to summon demons with their phones thru the demon summoning program.
This game is pretty fucked up.
>>483524946Yeah conspiring with demons should not be normalized, no wonder our country is headed into Lucifer's hands
is demon negoations right choices just random?
>>483525837no, depends on their personality.
Post bino
why is he so angry?
>>483526437maybe his butt hurts
who did the smt4 designs?
>>483524108Loa + Matador with Yabusame Shot.
>>483526829There were a bunch of guest artists.
Why are everybody lying and saying you need to beat CoC for the superboss to appear?
>>483527357Unironically would
>>483527836you need to beat CoV and then CoC for the true Masakado fight but it is possible to fight most super bosses in one route.
>>483527836Because misinformation spread from early reviewers. In their defense it's not very intuitive to reload your save after you beat the game to check if a new quest popped up.
>>483527836>needing to beat ture neutral in coc to unlock godborn is false information, spread by some twitter userelon musk
The future’s looking bright, bros.
>that feel when multiple copies of Pandemonic Feast don't stackmy dreams of true multi-hit degeneracy are over
>>483528348Are there any innate passives that stack? other than the ones that say they do like four oni and four horsemen.
>>483528314maybe for you, definetly not for me
>>483528314nuclear mushroom cloud bright
>>483528314I'm still wary because it's strange how V released in its state after all that time>but the gameplay is goo-Yeah that makes it weirder to me
If Sahori and Miyazu (If only in "our" imaginations lmao) ever become Guests, what're their demon teams going to be like?
>>483528916miyazu would have all egyptian demons and then i would use cia hypnotism to have atlus rewrite the story so she can eventually become a beaner without dying and she joins the party like that
>>483528852All that time doesn’t really matter when you’re in devhell
>>483528852its crazy how one of the most demanding games on switch can just be blown up to 200fps at 4k due to all the optimizing they had to do on switch just for it to run like shit on there.
>go run on the roof so you can avoid dazai>get sucked into a conversation anywayBut I want to explore there.
I hate how youi cant change the diffulcuty back to hard during gameplay. I put it on normal briefly since godborn at lvl 99 ist hard just a slog.
>>483523497I too wish to commit rabid copulation with Mirai
>>483530409elaborate
>>483530345lmao get rekt
>>483530345It’s based because it doesn’t let you just swap to Safety, it makes you get good.
>>483530441>>483530441Then just make it so once u set it to safety you cant switch back. I bet the NG on hard (minus demifiend and satan) so I know I am good
>>483530263lol that happpend to me to lol lol
>>483530263There are two entire sections to explore in the area the game wants you to go. For the blocked off area you're being prevented from going to? It's just a boss fight area and there's basically nothing else over there.
>>483530515But if you swap to Normal then you’ve conceded that you’re not good enough.
how does yoshitsune's innate ability work? i cant understand english and i cant read it
>based nationalist telling the gay horse to fuck off
>>483530675>be based and fight for the proud niponjin race>be cringe and support a gay horse gaijin savage (US/westerner stand-in)
>>483530658 (me)nvm, if i miss or something as yoshitsune then a presss turn gets added to my next turn
>>483530658if he misses (which he won't) it won't consume press turns
>>483530658First of all, why are you here? This site’s userbase speaks English.Second, pic related.
what the fuckWHATwait a fuck
what are the rewards if i beat more than 2?
>>483530753more like Portuguese/Mongolian stand-in
>>483530939the kogetsu guy malding rn
>>483530626Hydra literally could not harm me or my demons. but since they are level 99 since I didn't farm enough glory, they don't do any damage to finish the fight quicker then it should. its just boring. Maybe on a third playthrough ill stick with godborn hard. and just use this time to grind level 150 demons
>>483530675I helped the faggot horse on my latest playthrough and it made me feel dirty. Like how does Lucifer even tolerate that faggot? He must be really good at his job, I guess.
>the solution to the puzzle was a secret magatsu rail
>>483530431https://files.catbox.moe/dgmjk1.pdf
>>483530939>Gouto Douji is Raidou Kuzunoha The Firstwhere is this written and from?
>>483530974More chakra items. 4 gets you chakra pots.
The yamato race is the best human race
How can I mod the game to make https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OchJTFsVyHQ the default battle theme always?
>>483531256guys what is going on, is this real?
>>483531232>pdfI don't know if I should click that
>>483531256>>483531381Play the fucking raidou games. Is it that big of a revelation?
>>483518282The fuck are you talking about phys skills costing hp made them borderline free.
playing smtvv for the first time. does this game have a system where you can fully recover hp and mp with money? like the fountain in nocturne
>>483531497i played both, it was never mentioned
>>483531535Yeah it’s at the leylines, just interact with one and there will be an option to recover.
Was Unforgotten Memory and Warrior's Conception nerfed? I remember going up more than 7 levels when fusing demons with components over 20 levels of base.
>>483531463It’s smut but if you’re worried I can send the text file instead https://gofile.io/d/5t4eWd
>>483530897i can understand english but i dont like when its written weirdly, just say if yoshitsune misses or he hits a null enemy like a noob i get 5 press turns.
>>483530675I hope the gay horses successfully exterminate the nationalists
>>483531171I like to imagine it was adramelch that convinced Lucy to dress like a woman.
>>483531497bro please explain im confused, is it confirmed?
>>483531679Interesting
>>483531679Sorry wrong linkhttps://files.catbox.moe/4q16ci.txt
>>483531551Play them again and pay attention this time
>>483531883i beat the first game, and got far in the second can you please tell me how you figured it out?
>>483531551Gotou explicitly tells raidou that being a cat is his punishment
>>483532020i know that, but i never heard him say"I am Raidou The First, this might be sudden to hear."
>>483531981Maybe you have dementia, idk
>>483532109i don't, its never mentioned.
>>483532230Ok, I guess you're right then. Time to move on
>>483532314>>483532109>>483532230>>483531981stfu samefag
>>483532087Christ everyone is illiterate these days
https://youtu.be/AdO9IPVysx0?si=twyu3K53SiX78aVXI am wating for this to be completed
did you guys fight masakado like a pussy or fight true masakado?
>>483532574i am a huge devil summoner fan, i checked the wiki and found this. i am confused.please man i need to know the kuzunoha family so i can write better fanfiction
>>483531368a few guys managed to mod music in on gamebanana, maybe you should ask there.
>>483532728I…didn’t fight either. I didn’t buy VV
>>483531276i killed 6 to see, looks like the cap for rewards is 4
what does it say here?
I'll just say this now. Yuzuru and Koshimizu's take on Chaos has been the only time in the series outside of 1 and SJ where I thought Chaos had a point. I feel like the Nahobino concept was a great way to address the obvious problem of the Chaos solution of humans living "in harmony" with demons, even if I don't like the concept in general. It's a shame they threw all of that away in Vengeance for a generic Chaos solution of destruction.I never felt like the whole "end the cycle" angle for Chaos worked at all ever since it was introduced in TDE. From 1, 2, SJ, and the original version of 3, I always felt that Chaos made more sense as rooting for the cycle of destruction as it promotes coming up with better governance systems, as opposed to the idea of eternal peace at the cost of progress stagnation and loss of individuality of Law. I understand the multiverse angle is how they keep shitting out sequels but I think it has been handled very poorly and arguably in a manner that never fit with the original idea of Chaos in the first games.
>>483532772https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tP6T65jnOdI
>>483533543oh i wasnt paying attentionthank you very much
>>483533543this feels different from smt v, something is just different about how Kaneko directs, smt v just feels more like cake and Kaneko's masterpieces feel like the best wok everjust me?
>>483533926I wouldn't say>Kaneko's masterpieces feel like the best wok everbut they are definitely kino
>>483534213what year does Raidou's novel, 1st game, 2nd game, manga and drama cd take place?like exact number, i need this
>>483533926https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pYmmSs1uhm0Nocturne has great shot composition. I've read that the pursuit of photorealism and high fidelity graphics has led to the decline of most other aspects of game cinematics. It's a shame.
>>483534446>woooooooooooooooooooooooooow she's sitting on a chair such a great deep composition how did anyone think of filming on a chair wooooooooooooooooowfucking artfags
>>483534419if I remember correctly they are set around the year 2030 but it has the same continuity as smt 1 so it is set after the demon cataclysm and nuclear holocaust but technology and aesthetic wise it is set in 1920s japan era.
>>483526829a bunch of peoplehttps://dijehtranslations.wordpress.com/2016/08/08/yamai-ishida-doi-and-demon-designers-interview-for-famitsu/
>>483535060huh?Taisho era bro
>>483528314I think VV's biggest achivement was making people look forward to VI coming out in 2034
>>483535165so Taisho 20th means 1931alright so all the Raidou stuff takes place during a couple months
>>483533376imo chaos is the best end in creation, and the arc of Yuzuru and Koshimizu in CoV proves it even more
If I become a human supremacist will I get a Nuwa gf too?
>>483534928It’s the lighting and use of shadows that’s visually striking, not the chair
>>483534928literally blind
>>483535546Raidou takes place in an alternative history where Japan stays a democracy into the 1930s and all the war crime shit under Hirohito doesn’t happen. It’s like if a German dev made a game about being an occult detective in the Weimar Republic during the 1940s.
This fucken space cadet
>>483536034there's still characters like munakata who kaneko said he wanted to give the option to side with but they decided that they wanted to try a game without alignments
>>483536000>only I can see the genius behind this extremely mundane thing fucking artfags
>>483536034Oh ok, so with Kogetsu i gotta end that, or like with the pre Kogetsu stuff, Showa should just have his own chapter and war gets dreclared on Korea and Raidou gets a new outfit and Japan becomes Socialist, after The Last Raidou Project, Raidou Kuzunoha Vs ,I GOT something, finally-Devil Summoner Raidou Kuzunoha VS The Onisocialists https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VAt1uUulQsM
>>483536223based retard I guess
>>483534446>open video>hear character talking in english>close video
>>483536275Raidou desperately fighting the Communist party of Japan, as The Kuzunoha Clan is anointed as right hand of Hirohito Showa, and basically the Yatagarasu turn on Raidou and his Family, The Kuzunohas get bribed and corruption starts to form as THE S.P.R.O.F comes to be, finally i have something
>>483536573and basically Sakhalin finally invades Japan and successfully initiates the Socialist Republic, with the head general of defense being Royta Kazoku. finally things make sense, thank you so much 4chan.
Metaphor won.
>>483533926Kaneko has never directed a video game
>>483537209I think he’s credited as ‘creative director’ on SJ, but I have no idea what that’d entail
>>483537209he was art director for a lot of games
>>483536503you mute the video you niggerino
>>483537347It was Nocturne, and Creative Director is almost always a bullshit credit to attach a name to a game. same with "Supervisor" or "Creative Producer"
>>483535695I also chose Chaos when I played through V when it was new. The story and alignment philosophies were so poorly developed and elaborated, I picked Chaos simply to let Miyazu continue living because it was the only subplot that interested me at all. And it made sense as in the premise God already died so now we need new rulers that can benefit humanity without restricting them.
When the inevitable SMTVVV comes out i hope we get wall jumping and grund pounts like super mario
>>483535695The ideal true end would mix Tao's ending with Koshimizu's ending.
>>483538286>VVV comes out>The story will still suck
Hold on a sec one of my demons wants to give me a quest in the demon haunt. I think he has some input on what ending I should go for.
>>483538639what about SMT VVV part 2?
likelihood for SMTVVA?
>>483538898I'd hope they'll get it to at least an okay state after 4 tries.
>>4835390913 tries*
>>483530675>take japan from okuninushi by show of force>whine when others try to do the sameyou HAVE read the nihon shoki and kojiki and picked up on the very basic irony written into the quest, right anon?
>>483538286>nahobino, there are yet other worlds under the yolk of the monado system. you must backwards long jump to build up speed and skip QPUs to free yet more worlds
guys how do you like my from Raidou drama cd birth to kogetsu timeline?1931: RAIDOU ERA1932: Socialist Republic of Japan until 1940 when Raidou under the earths deepest mantle, tries to save Royta but he melts and since Raidou defeated the other bolsheviks 1932-1940 which were trying to flee japan and spread the japanese empire to every place on earth1932: ONISOCIALIST1933: MALDIVIAN WAVE PROJECT (MALDIVES SINKING PROJECT)1934: CAUCASUS INVASION (BOLSHEVIKS TURN THE CAUCASUS AGAINST RAIDOU)1935: GERMANIC DRAGON (ADOLF HITLER INVADES JAPAN WITH THE HELP OF SATAN AND HIS 72 DEMONS) 1936: ADOLF HITLER SENDS ALL OF EAST ASIA AGAINST JAPAN IN A MISSILE CRISIS (SOUTH EAST ASIAN WAR)1937: SHOWA ELECTED EMPEROR AND TAISHO MURDERED BY BOLSHEVIKS, RAIDOU MUST AID THE EMPEOR AS MUCH AS HE CAN.1938: SHOWA DEMOTES RAIDOU AND THE SOCIALIST REPUBLIC TURNS COMMMUNIST.1939: HIROHITO SHOWA GETS POSESSED BY SAMAEL AND RAIDOU CANT SAVE HIM SO HE MUST DIE1940: EMPEROR SENYA (Hokkaido Family) is elected emperor as the monarcy is abolished and democracy arrives.1941: HITLER INVADES TOKYO AND SETS UP A GERMAN CAMP THERE1942: THE NAZIS ERECT A SATANIC TOWER THAT WILL DESTROY TOKYO1943: THE NAZIS ARE SACRIFICED TO LUCIFER AS HE TAKES CONTROL OF TOKYO AND A CHAOTIC TOKYO FORMS1944: HITLER DEFEATS LUCIFER AND GAINS HIS HEAVENLY ESSENCE AND RAIDOU MUST DEFEAT HIM, THE TOWER ACCELLARATES TIME TO MAX1945: HITLER FALLS OF THE TOWER AND IT CRUMBLES UPON HIM, RAIDOU IS REWARDED BY THE 4 ARCHANGELS AS NAGI GIVES BIRTH TO A CHILD, RAIDOU AND NAGI DIDNT HAVE TIME FOR ANYTHING BUT SAVING THE CITY, KOGETSU IS BORN BUT TIME STILL ACCELARATES AS RAIDOU STABS THE TOWERS GEM AND SUDDENLY THE YEAR HAS ACCELERATED FROM 1942 TO 1947, AT THE EVE OF JANUARY 1947 THE TIME ACCELARATION STOPS AND KOGETSU IS BORN ON THE 11TH LUNAR MONTH, A GIFT FROM THE ARCHANGELS.
>>483526437based Nahobino killing the reddit bird
If i slap on Demifiends essence is that going to mess with Masakado or Satans AI to just destroy me or what
why the bird make this specific guy shit his pants so much
>>483542437lolifag for a different loli demon
V was a mistake, literally
Kazuyuki Yamai has been classified as a freelancer developer since 2023.
>>483517992i like her nipples, i actually don't really dislike the designs from the archangels in IV but mostly how they were used , if a SMT had this eldritch setting and you fight the archangels normally but they got corrupted by eldritch powers and transform into those weird forms it would be cool
>>483543195source?
>>483543195
ecks deeeeee
>>483533376I always disliked Chaos as trying to be some deep "better world" pursuit in contrast with the personal freedom of who is pursuing it, its fine if the person wants it but it shouldn't be the priority
>>483543589Remember when /smtg/ was crying and shitting their diapers over the P5X demon artworkIt was pretty funny
>>483537403I read that as niggerbino
gooning to yoko and tao
>>483543832All alignments are deeply hypocritical and this goes back as far as SMT1. Atlus just likes to pretend Neutral isn't hypocritical when it absolutely is and was treated that way in a significant portion of SMT1 until they shoehorned it as the "happy ending".
>>483545052Retard. Go hang yourself.
>>483545456Why are you mad though
>>483545552Neutralfags are retarded. Water is wet.
>>483545052I just find retarded trying to make it so obviously hypocrital, its not deep or whatever if anything its shadllow
>>483545709Tbf Fatlus has always been very blatant when it comes to presenting Law and Chaos as hypocritical but they always pussyfoot this when it comes to Neutral. Literally the one games that even attempt to critique Neutral are 1, Nocturne (only via the Reasons, Freedom ruined it so honestly it barely counts), SJ, and V. And they checked out in the last minute in 1, while trying their best to minimize it in SJ until SJR. V went all out and that's one of the few things I appreciate about V. If anything Law was the least interesting faction in V writing wise despite the game making a strong case for Law and can be viewed as Law-biased, especially with the Vengeance re-release. Neutral and Chaos were very well thought-out ideologically in V. Chaos was given more legitimacy as a solution thanks to the Nahobino concept giving humans a chip to bargain instead of being prey, and Neutral was, for the first time ever, properly critiqued and examined through a scrutinizing lense for its hypocrisy. And they literally threw all of this away in Vengeance.
Good morning.
>>483546259SJR neutral was so fucking bad, i feel its as bad as Vengeance Chaos if not worse
>>483546856Kill yourself faggot.
>>483546856Live yourself sir.
Goypass release when?
>>483550627I love turbo tranny
>>483543273I mean, those were supposed to be the "broken" form of the archangels, if I recall correctly, they were disfigured beyond "repair", when you bump into them, and since SMT 4 treats all angels as automatons, it makes sense in a way
>>483550753Infinite Wealth is still NOT on Game Pass so probably next year also Microsoft is shilling the P3R DLC on the dashboard so there's that too.
Do you think VI will be good or will it suffer the same issues as previously entries?
...Please take good care of my sister.
>>483551616every mainline game is good in someway despite the issues for me so I don't get the dichotomy. it can be good and still suffer from the issues every other mainline game has, it could suffer from new issues even. but that still doesn't prevent it from being good. still there's a high chance that if you don't find IV or V good you won't like VI either.the difference is this time I think the team has solid understanding of what a modern mainline game should be like, they are experience with a modern engine, and they will probably get the biggest budget for any mainline game up until now.
>>483551616>Do you think VI will be goodNo and with the actual talent flocking to the other studios I don't think SMT will ever get an actual good game for like 20 years or so.
>>483553052If the talent is flocking to other studios then why does VV look and sound better than Metabore
>>483553220>VV look and sound better than Metaborelmao
>>483553405I'm right though. The modeling team on V and VV is way better and Kozuka offers more creative tracks than Meguro doing another orchestral SJ style OST.
>>483514423The save files are probably interchangeable fyi
The light change hee. Hee hold hee light to become Master Man.
>>483553669>The modeling team on V and VV is way betterYou're actually delusional if you think that the any plastic looking model from V looks better than picrel.
lmfao
I think you need to check your eyes anon
>>483553220I would imagine because it's running on the Unreal Engine, which would naturally make anything look decent. It's one of the best engines for video game development and often has everything be shiny. But I'll say Metaphor has a better looking style going for it and that it's using a custom engine, which isn't common in the industry anymore. >>483553669>The modeling team on V and VV I don't know if that's pro when they're mostly reusing models from other megaten titles(P5, SH2, SMT 3) with barely any touch ups. I still think it's baffling that Maria doesn't use her animations from NINE when the devs could have easily done that if they stopped giving Doi demons all the budget for one second.
>>483554227little bro thought he would convince anons this looks good lmao
Yup, fapping to Nahobino porn definitely causes brainrot.
>>483554227Copied homework version of reinhard von lohengramm lolThey just added horns
>>483553405Have you seem this girl model in the trailer? It looks like a sticky
>>483554576>I don't know if that's pro when they're mostly reusing models from other megaten titles(P5, SH2, SMT 3) with barely any touch ups.The actual V/VV models generally look better than the ones imported from other games though, even the recent SH2 ones.
>>483553405the circumference of this bitch's cranium
>>483555390I think they're using the exact same base character models as P5
>>483555475all the refined Kaneko models look good toothat's why I think more time and budget would change a lot
Hackshino
>/smtg/ already in damage control mode over Hashino's next best sellerHey maybe in SMTVVV you guy's will be getting a green filter over the empty desert and more plastic sentai wanna be desings from Doi, or perhaps even SH3?
Fucking Nips and their drinking shit again
>>483556256no anon, you are the damage control
>>483556256Nah man. That will be SMT VVVVV.
SMT VVVVVV when?
>they buffed thalassic calamity so minimum is equal to murakumo critwait what the fuck
>>483520336you played a better game beforehand, don't expect a good story or cast. the older games are gonna be better so it's good you are getting it out of the way right now
>SMT VVVVVVV comes out>Still no new Neutral ending
>>483557363lmao absolutely seething
>>483554227this model looks poopy
>>483554227Is that switch native resolution?
>>483554227Why does this slop get Lucifer lookalike that actually looks decent and we are stuck with the blandest designs Doi can shit out
>>483554227>>>>>modelingThis is clearly a matter of shading.
Why does /smtg/ pray for Metaphor's downfall? Is it shitposting or does it geniunely make you guys mad
>>483554227Wait a fucking minute?
>>483558163Actually kino reference.Based Soejima.
>>483557335A Crit will still net you a bonus press turn.
>>483558159It stems from the fact that they lied about it not being persona and megaten before the game was shown. A lot of people were really hyped with how mysterious the project was for years and the prospect of getting a truly original game from Atlus was exciting, just for it to come out as a frankenstein monster of sona+SMT that seems to not appeal to either fanbase. Sounds familiar.
>>483555837>all the refined Kaneko models look good toolol lmao evenGabriel's model from Dx2 has a lot of little details specifically the hair and the wings unlike the low poly version from P5 which made it's way to V.
That metaphor game kinda has a gacha atmosphere. I don't know how to describe it but the female and male characters look like they were designed from the ground up to be for (You)
>>483558432Would be funny if that old sold more though. Bearsona drones buy anything, but the arct direction seems a tad unappeling for the drones
>>483558163Yeah was my first thought. To be fair not like its the first time persona directly referenced LOGH, goro's whole thing of "being the bastard child of a politician whos basically the figurehead of the secret illuminati controlling everything behind the scenes, starts working under his father who he thinks doesn't know hes his son to gain power to kill him later down the line but his father knew the whole time" is wholesale ripped from that show as well, the character in question even just looks like an older goro lol
>>483558432If you read their interviews, Metaphor has been in development since around end of 2016 and a lot has changed during the development. They decided to make it an anniversary title celebrating all the atlus titles with Metaphor instead. The setting and monster designs are completly original to the setting of Metaphor and don't appear in megaten or persona. The only direct reference between them they have is some spell names. There's some indirect references like MAG, being Magla not magnetite.Plans change, just like Persona 5 was completely different setting from Japan during the development but they decided to walk back on it and now reusing the concept of traveling the world in Metaphor. It feels like you're trying to be petty because you're butthurt about TMS that had nothing to do with Hashino's team
>>483558163>>483558906Is this anime as good as people say it is?
>>483559034tldr
>>483559034I still wonder how P5 would have been if they released based on the original idea. The first promo hitted hard
>>483527357kek what's with those retarded legs, amon has similar ones as well
>>483558432TMS should have really been a scifantasy war game with horror elements.
>>483559045I would say so, I watched it myself in full like 2 months ago. I feel like the main issue with the show is sometimes the extensive ship combat sections can start to blend together after a point. But I really loved the characters and all the actual drama, and they even usually do a good job of making the ship combat just a vessel for character interactions/clashes. I would sincerely say it has a trio of the absolute best death scenes I've seen in anything period.Also the animation quality was inconsistent thats my other issue I guess, it like outright changed back and forth between artsyles at points because of I assume different directors. Season 2 is mostly in the weird cheaper looking artstyle which kinda bothered me.
>>483558163The superior design, those goat horns look shit>>483559034That just sounds like development hell, changing the setting so much,i honestly think if they followed the original idea the game would've looked much better than the current state
>>483559034>Expecting anons to be reasonable when this is the same general that defended NFTs and acted like 2chan represents the entire Japanese megaten fandom lmao
I wish VV Satan was as fun as DDS2 SatanHe should've had more phases
>>4835595655ch represents a lot of japanese fandom specially in case of SH2, but you can eternally seethe and deny that.
>>483559374If it worked anything like current Metaphor does, you would be like let's say in America, and your next travel destination would be Canada, you'd have x amount of time to finish links in America before the deadline before it locks out. Links are also able to be started within the dungeon or with party members at the hub you stay at.>>483559526It could be that the original concept was just not going anywhere/going in the direction they didn't like. Metaphor doesn't look bad for the amount of shit it has in it already. For the first time since FES the MC can equip any weapons, and not just him all the other party members can too, that alone feels like it'd require a lot of work
>>483559654Is Satan the most complex superboss of V now? Or Demi-dick remains as the top dog?
>>483558615by refined I mean models like Shiva.
>>483559924>5ch represents a lot of japanese fandomExcept it doesn't at all, what the fuck are you talking about? Also 5ch is the same place that shits on Dragon Quest, which is the most beloved JRPG series of all time in Japan. They're ultimately a minority in the fandom, no different from here.
>>483560484seethe harder little piggy
>>483558159TWO SIDES OF THE SAME COIN
>>483559374Metaphor is the OG P5 idea but in a new setting, and that was based off of Maken X, since Hashino wanted to make the ideas behind Maken X but modern.
>>483560079I find Satan to be much harder
>>483560606I for one am for the Atlus supremacy, they have been doing good job this year
>no yoko in CoC routeyou guys lied to me
>>483560606>Pixie sitting on the mugCute! But how is she gonna eat all that?
>>483561092not the biggest fan of P3re but metaphor does look interesting. it seems like the cities are fully explorable and that's a first for atlus
>>483560079I think the main thing with demi fiend is you already know how his ai/gaea rage works now and how many turns you have to kill his demons/him, satan just lol megido arks you whenever
>>483560541I don't know anon, maybe you seethe for being so retarded to think that the japanese equivalent of 4chan represents the entire fandom.
>>483561356use demons with mitigation like lilith or danuoverheal with bowluse kannabi veil and or the guaranteed dodge on beanowin (except if you're on hard mode)
>>483561326They got the Nier guy to design the enviorements which is probably why the landscape feels bit different
>>483561414good morning sir
can someone list all the doimons in VV. I'm too lazy to search it up
>>483561326The enviroment and monsters look decent i just have a lot of problems with the characters design
>>483561505also doesn't satan have double the vit of demi?
>>483561458you can nitpick posters here and there but it's always a good representation of what the core fans think, even if they won't express it as strongly anywhere else. in case of SH2 it was so bad people never showed any mercy shitting on it anywhere on the internet. calling it 墓2 isn't a 5ch exclusive thing.
*headbutts Eisheth out of existence*
>>483561550wasn't it the same company that did the environments of DDS too? >>483561709honestly most of the stuff I like about this game has to do with combat and systems, it doesn't look pretty. not a fan of how visual noise is on the screen.
do NOT use omagatoki critical on mastemaworst mistake of my life
>>483562008>you can nitpick posters here and there but it's always a good representation of what the core fans think, even if they won't express it as strongly anywhere else. It's not really nitpicking when there's multiple anti-threads for many games that are often regarded as great titles, like the aforementioned Dragon Quest, Metal Gear Solid, Xenoblade, or even SMT, as there's been anti-threads for SJ or SMT 3.>calling it 墓2 isn't a 5ch exclusive thing.I have no idea how this conversation even shifted towards SH2. It's more so how people used 5ch as a excuse to shit on vanilla V around 2022.
>>483562345he's just gonna hamabarion the demon with drain light the next turn anyway
>>483562236i will have to see more gameplay videos to see if i like it or not
>>483562008>墓2 isn't a 5ch exclusive thing.I think it might be because I'm getting nothing but tomb raider or some novel series
>>483562426I am talking about anti threads, and how SH2 has one that went 14 parts before the game came out, I've never seen that happen for any other game. you know how V's anti thread lasted only 2 parts?you can get contrarian threads here too. but when there are people persistently hating it to the point the anti thread gets more posts than the main thread you know something's up. that's my entire point, the reactions in 5ch do show at least how the core fandom thinks.>>483562601cause it's a pun and SH2 is true to the meme so thoroughly dead no one talks about it anymore. everyone wants to forget it ever happened.
>>483519303what tool are you referring to?
>>483559034>"they spent 8 years only to turn it into persona">pls understand plans change so they just turned it into persona>i-it's not directly persona because they don't say persona or social linkgreat effortpost faggot. here's another You for your collection
>>483563039yeah i think you're just delusional and have a hate boner for sh2 if I can't find any trace of this outside of 5chim going back to playing vv
>>483563465A tool on game banana that allow you to modify skills yourself.Some people over there are also uploading their own "balancing" of skills that absolutely break the game instead because they can't be bothered to play on safety mode.
>>483564121concession accepted, have fun
>>483564172to be fair, things like buffs should be buffed since they're incredibly worthless in the game
>>483563918Why are you so upset? The only thing mechanically this game shares with persona are the social links and calendar. It's press turn, the game's focus is the dungeons and the characters transform into their jobs like DDS characters transform into their demon forms.
>>483564414It doesn't allow you to do that.However, you can set their duration to 99 turns which is something some of these "rebalance" mods did.
>>483564602there's little difference between personas and archetypes in concept and utility
>>483564746In what way? You can't change it in battle, other party members can change the archetype, you can pass only some skills, they have mastery that unlocks new trees via atma equivalent, it's much closer to mantra with how it works than a persona.
the demons in my demon haunt sure are high and mighty about how we aren’t friends and they will betray me at a moments notice but when I take them out for our weekly ice cream social they sure do shut the fuck up about that stuff real quick
>>483564746Wrong.
Why is Nahobeeho always running in place? I hate this fat retard so much
Demon Haunts feel like they have a lot of room to expand upon with a loyalty mechanic.
>>483564397Retard.
>>483565697He's trying to lose weight :(
>>483565534You have tsundere demons.
Just started up DeSu Overclocked for the first time, any tips on stat priority?
>>483565739There is some kind of loyalty mechanic in place, although I think the only benefit is that one time super level up that increases one of their proficiencies.
The best party in VV can be gotten around level 30 with Mad Gasser, Loa, and Manananggal and can carry you against anything that doesn't null posion.>Manananggal gives access to 1 MP for skills with her magasuchi ability and strong skills with large hit rates>Mad Gasser has blight and when under a magasuchi ability, inflicting aliments doesn't cost anything>Loa increases instakill chance and aliment hit chance along with poison damage.
>>483566409I will not use ze ailments, Komori
>>483566074MAG > VIT > AGI >>> STR
nice hollow purple there gojocifer
>>483566623It's the closest thing in the early game close to what you could do in other games with abusing aliments. In the late game Samael and Cleo has better skills with higher hit chance for Loa to boost. But overall Loa is one of the strongest demons in most cases.
>>483566409Meanwhile buffs are absolutely useless. Thanks EO devs
>>483566409Sounds like a fun party, I’m getting bored of being str chad
can someone explain what the fuck is going on here?
>finally let go of Rooted Spring at level 51Enduring Soul couldn't be passed up.
>>483567230>buying element directly from compendiumbruh
I want PM Koshimizu to fill my holes
>>483567151Manananggal can be replaced with anything that has a good single target attack that has some sort of aliment hit chance around 30-50%. But Manananggal can combo into demons like Celo with replacing Mad Gasser for free frolics.
>>483563918I dunno it seems half way between DDS and Persona. Sure some elements from Persona are there and there's greater customization of what 'totally not demons' you can use but the "social links" are just talking to them at the hub between dungeons and doing side quests.Almost feels like one of the concepts they had for SMTxFE (but abandoned for DDS with idols) given the aesthetics and striking similarities to some core aspects of FE
>>483567434what's the relevance, are they more useful for fusion or something?
>VV bad>No, VV good>Metaphor bad>No, Metaphor good>B-but japanese 4chan said>Komori le bad>buffs le awfulCan this general get any less boring
>>483567883SH2 bad
>got the macca mitama dlc because I don't want to deal with grinding macca via soda machines and talking to demons a ton>the yellow mitama still gives a shit ton of exp, overleveling me if I use it to get maccaWhy couldn't they just make the yellow and blue mitamas give 0 exp
>>483567992No, SH2 good
>>483568003>uses cheat DLC>complains that it's cheat DLCMega retard
>>483567792Directly upfuse/downfuse a race
>>483568152Hashino le bad
With how easy it is to boost the Magauchi meter once unlocking skills to boost it for 20 MP, it makes certain skills more viable since you effectively don't have to deal with the BS MP costs for many spells with Omagatoki: Free. It's still not as good as the free crits or Omagatoki: Savage overall, it's still an option due to how quickly the meter can be built up with casting certain spells and passing the turn to the MC.
>>483567883I think all Megaten games since July 14th 2011 except Soul Hackers 2 are...Le good
>>483566738oh wow, I feel like STR is usually the good stat in smt games, is there any reason it's dogshit in Overclocked?
>>483568003Never had any issues with macca at all and I'm not shy about using the compendium.
Love this hag a lot.
>>483568639In DeSu, the Baldor fight has it scale off STR so it's good in the early game. But in the late game Dance skills are too OP not to use.
>>483568286thanks
>>483568426You're admitting that Persona 4 Dancing is good? Weird taste dude.
>>483568639It's not dogshit at all. But if you use STR, Atsuro will suffer due to being naturally built for STR, and he sticks with you on every route.
>>483569036What's bad about it?
>>483569036Well if it was on PC where HD models of the girls could be ripped for SFM...
>>483569036It's fun. The 3 and 5 releases were not good however.
How do you unlock Lucifer for fusion in SMTVV?I've unlocked Satan after beating him but I'm missing Lucifer recipe.
>>483566074get a barf bag for whenever YUCKzu shows up on screen and talks about her disgusting sweaty body
>>483570038start a godborne playthrough
I do like a lot of the new stuff for the gameplay changes and additions. The insane MP cost for things like buffs is no good. I feel like buffs/debuffs should be cheaper when they only last 3 turns, so it really feels like most of the time, it's only useful for debuffs for defensive buffs, since casting more has a bigger cost that will barely last any time, and it's not really worth using so many actions for it. Especially now with how easy it is to level up, you don't really need that much unless you are always getting one shotted, and healing every turn feels overall better and cheaper. But outside of that and how expensive some stuff is where you do need certain demons in the party to make it cheaper forcefully, the new gameplay additions are good.
>>483512281I just got to the fairy village, am I a little bitch for clinging to Matador when he's being left behind level-wise? One of my complaints about base SMTV was the amount of demons that wanted Alice for fusions and now that I have more fiends I don't wanna part with them
Do the "Will of X" skills in IV:A pierce Repel and Drain passives?
>>483570675No. Only null/resist. Pierce doesn't work on those skills.
>>483570524I think their idea is that there's no real resource management in the overworld anymore so they moved that aspect to boss fights
>>483570667If you like a demon you can just use grimoires to keep them leveled with you
>>483570845Probably. But like I said >>483568382, it's much more manageable to wait to spend 40 MP on Nahobino over multiple turns for making buffs/debuffs effectively free than 100+ for a 3 turn buff.
>>483559465For some reason doi has a hard on for artificial pointy legs. It's awful.
>>483571252Well yea, you can tool him out as either a super godly support for the rest of your team to spam magatsuhi skills or you can have him be your main damage dealer. Obviously the "cheap" strategy is the former but there's always a way to break every megaten which is kinda the point
doi should do a mayan SMT game next
>multi-hit attack only does the minimum number of hits against single targets
>temple of eternity is completely unchangedwhat a sick joke
>>483566074Don't play that shit brother. It's not worth it.
>>483573924faggot
>>483567883You mean "more boring"
>>483573924Based. The game becomes a chore when you have to babysit three retards and most of the demon races aren't worthwhile for most maps.
>>483573924filtered
>>483574890Stay away from me you filthy rabies-ridden animal
fatlus should remake the Japanese only Gmode devil summoning program online game with battling people online with demons
>>483575115I don't know what that is nor do I care. Fuck off, get ratio'd
war thunder?
nanomachines?
>>483575764indeed
divegrass?
>>483570357Thanks. Is there any NG+/Godborn-only content (quest/subquest) or can I just do the main story?
>>483574117>>483574853Samefag
>I am the chaos guy I like it when things are destroyed and I'm a bit of a jackass who says things that are out of the line. >I am a law guy I'm very nice and angelic music plays when I talk because I don't respect our autistic fanbase to understand social queues to actually catch that. >Well I can't decide what I want, but I care about the people, you guessed it right! I'm a neutral guy!I'm glad SMT characters have deep and thoughtful dialogue unlike those tropey and shallow Persona games
>>483575401Did you just confuse this place for Twitter?
>>483576841But what if I go Neutral because I get to kill the most demons? Where does that land me?
>>483576841I would agree with this if SMT V didn't have the Law rep be a nutjob, Chaos rep being nearly non-existent, and neutral rep acting like a chaos rep
Remind me why wasn't SJ called "IV"? Can't be because of no press turns.
>>483577067SmtV characters are so flat they make calling them one dimensional an insult to 1 dimension. They had to redo it for VV where Tao and Yoko fulfill the extremely obvious alignment rep
>>483577478It didn't take place in Tokyo and was too different when compared to other mainline entries. Hence why it's not IV nor a mainline entry.
Khonsu route DLC this year. It was revealed to me in a dream.
>>483577478If I remember right there are interviews with Kaneko wanting to call it SMT 4 because it was high quality but Ishida disagreed
>>483576841>I am the chaos girl I hate cars above all else>I am the law girl, I want the chaos girl to sit on me and shut me up>I am the neutral guy, I was going to be Hitler but we can't do that anymore
>>483558432I still don't get why it was themed around Japanese idols. What's the overlap between idol fans and megaten fans?
>>483578223Virgin loser manchildren
>>483578223It was themed around idols because it was suggested by one of the staff members that also worked on Love Live. So it became a game that was created to criticize the Idol industry and it's culture akin to Drakengard 3.
>>483578341But I'm a virgin loser manchild and I don't like Jpop.
>>483576250not to my knowledge no but I also haven't done much in godborne
>>483577968>I am the law girl, I want the chaos girl to sit on me and shut me upwasn't her idea just having furious lesbian sex with sahori or something
>>483577968>I want the chaos girl to sit on me and shut me upLiterally me.
>>483565739I've been having the same idea too, it just seems right for it. But for some reason people have trouble with the loyality mechanic
>just noticed the "use multiple" option>after 50 hourswhoops
>>483568426Someome needs to make an SMT version of this
>>483579284Same except about 30 hours, glad I'm not as stupid as you.
>>483578864Furious tentacle lesbian sex with sahori*
Apparently you can get Danu in CoV after all. The goddess you get appears to be tied to player choice alightment and not story alightment, so you just need to be Neutral before you get locked into a route.
>>483561303Why is she so mad?
Unpopular opinion, but I dont think the new tracks are that good.Battle -origin- is still the best track in the game.
>>483528916Sahori gets Mad Gasser, Urban Terror, and edgy tentacle dom Nahobino form. Its stereotypical, but she's not much of a character.
>>483577763Khonsu Chads
>>483580632Needs cock.
>>483530539i fucking hate the fact that the last miman in shinagawa is locked behind amanozakopiece of shit
>>483581065Yeah, mine.
>>483539083It'll be Sahori and Miyazu wank somehow., the former making IVA Anarchy look bland, and the latter being a gayer version of IVA Bonds and Redux New Neutral put together
>>483561303the face of someone who knows she can't escape the cruelty that is bad game writing when in another fucking cycle she's STILL killed right in front of her girlfriend
>>483576841Seething choiceless perma chaos fag purseowner can't understand indomitable human spirt that is contained within every neutralchad
>>483580632Bully victims actually do give that look a lot. It's the distrustful "are you another predator?" stare
>>483581134Maybe she will live on with porn
>Efreet with stoning and jihadYeah we're doing the arab build
>>483512281does anyone have a idea what Normal Challenge runs I can do in the CoC route? I wanna get all fours endings and then do Godborne Vengeance route at last.
>try to find an essence with the resist fire skill for Artemis>she learns it on her own in the demon hauntMy ride or die Phys bitch
>>483581269SMTV human models are so oddly ugly, not in like bad quality wise, but like they look like those really uncanny rubber dolls where their skin doesn't quite fit their body. It's especially giving that vibe when they talk
>>483582298you can't get four endings in one go with one save, that means you have to replay the game four times in a rowGodborn is terrible. Trust me - all they did was upping the stats of everything, capping level at 150 forcing you to go full minmax. This is not Apocalypse difficulty - it's so fucking onesided there is not a single complex strategy involved in fighting except spamming the most broken shit ever known to man and watch it steamroll like you're playing persona 5 royal. Don't.
>>483582768no it's just Tao
>>483582806Really that bad, huh? Any good mods out there then which make the game harder than HARD?
I transfered Idun, Artemis and Cleo from the vanilla game, but they are all level 99. If I buy them from the compedium, will they listen to me?
>>483583205They'll beat your ass around and make you a slave
>>483583745GIWTWM
Why is V's neutral rep an edgy hypocritical waifufag?
>>483577614>Hence why it's not IV nor a mainline entry.It's not numbered but it absolutely is considered mainline by Atlus, just like if.
>>483584397They wanted the /pol/ audience
>>483580745Urban terror is never coming back
>>483582768to be fair, since the design mostly focus on the demons that is very understandable. It's like you're playing tokyo mirage session if that shit was made on a functional gamecube that also has Wind Waker inside for some reason>>483583154No, there's no Hardtype shit like Cturne
>>483582964this but Dazai
>>483584848In b4 Doi remakes Urban Terror into a slutty vaguely Columbine girl or something
>>483570667The game pretty much throws grinoires at you. Without farming, I hit 99 before I was halfway through Shinjuku.
>>483585118This. It's cheaper and easier to grab a virgin demon and plow her with grimoires than to summon a leveled one from the comp
>>483581329I can help her.
>>483585073>Urban Terrorwhat is this, a demon? I don't want to google it
SAR PLEASE DO NOT REDEEM
>>483585727google it, faggot
>>483581269Tao getting rape corrected by Sahori under Lahmu's influence.
>>483584848Shame
https://gamebanana.com/wips/85775Queen frost added, Gozu tennoh coming tomorrow
>>483585895GOOD MORNING SIR
Subtle.
>>483586063Doi/Atlus don't have the balls to make edgekino like this anymore
>>483585895Why is Alice fiend race anyway?
>>483586063He’s such a wacky guy! The Charles Manson swastika tattoo really elevates the design
>>483586303Because she's fucked up in the head and pure evil.
>>483586203This doesn't look balanced, even in VV.
>>483520521>>483522423>>483523598Thanks anons! I'm looking forward to some time off work, it'll be really fun to just go super hard into it for a few days.
>>483586948To be fair to even use it you have to already have beaten a superboss, since shiva is a fusion component
>>483580745Shouldn't she be more stable if she joins as a guest? I wouldn't mind school shooter sahori but it feels odd as a party member.>>483586948Still should have an elemental weakness.
>>483586948He's using Dx2 as a basis and that game is powercreep incarnate.>>483587090Shiva is a superboss only in name, he's pretty weak and doesn't require any particular strategy other than "kill Ananta ASAP"
>>483586948Unless the pwr of that skill is absurdly high a single target tandava+mediarama isn't too crazy. That mana cost is fucked though. It needs to atleast be over 100 MP even at almighty potential 5.
>>483586502I think he's supposed to based off Manson appearance
>>483587232I just wanted to give her some of the funny/edgy Foul demons. Any ideas that aren't school shooter lmoa?
>>483586203>Gozu-TennohSick. It'll be great having him usable outside of Dx2.
>>483587423Slime or black ooze because she and lahmu are so fucking out of sync in both routes?Bugs because she was a good girl as far as we know before being a ticking time bomb maybe?
Doi's Urban Terror, 2024
>>483586948>1 severe st-based almighty attacks to 1 foe>1 attacks
At long last... SMT5 is finally out...
>>483587952Dude seems to be chinese or korean or something based on some of the screenshots being in runes
This shit is expensive
>>483578501>So it became a game that was created to criticize the Idol industryYou mean celebrate it. It's very more inoffensive and light hearted than Persona 5's rebellion theme.
>>483588767gyatt damn
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>>483589353We won bros
>>483589353I dunno I think these people are exaggerating ...
>>483589353Is this true for other people? IS SMT VV really the most fun RPG?
Black people be like
>>483590441Nah, SMT has always been the most fun JRPG series. Even when at its worst, it still blows everything else the fuck out.
vv is unironically the most fun I've had with megaten purely from a gameplay perspective
>>483590506Outside of battle? Yeah. In battle? It's up there.
Any SMT if... peeps here?I am currently in the sloth domain.Why the fuck do I have to wait 6 full moon cycles to advance? This will take forever.
>>483591492Speed hacks.
>>483591580this will be smt graphics in 2013
>>483512281For those who bought the DLC: Did they keep the same VA from SMT4A? Or did they fuck this one up and got a no name faggot?This is a deal breaker to me
>>483590506I’m not an expert on turn based RPGs, but press turn feels dynamic and engaging in a way that I’ve never experienced in other turn based systems.The games aren’t incredibly hard, but on hard mode there’s very little margin for error, where a bad move, like forgetting to refresh a debuff, could bring you from full health to a game over. I like that it’s unforgiving, but I’m sure many people wouldn’t be into that.
>>483592114imagine unironically playing v dubbed
>>483591570I already do.My squad is over leveled now
>>483592114he doesn't have that many voice lines but it's xander mobus
>>483590441Tell me a turn based RPG better than VV.
>>483592114It's Xander but they use an obnoxiously heavy voice filter for Dagda that sucks, also isn't worth playing the dub to hear him.
>>483590441doing low level challenges or finding broken builds is very fun
weeeeeee
I wonder if this random youtube comment about heavenly ikuyumi is actually true
Taobros, we won so hard.
Did people freak out at the devs for doing white Cleo? That's very not woke
>>483592989it doesn't sound right but you also need to run a shitty demon to let nahobino crit anyways
>>483593041no you didn't?
>>483593140I'd do white Cleo
>>483592989I think I saw that in a GameFaqs thread. After one debilitate Heavenly Ikuyumi does more damage than Murakumo, but it doesn’t naturally crit.
>>483593140Cleopatra was primarily Greek with some Persian mixed in so the plausibility of her having a pale complexion is still reasonable.
>>483593256>Sandalphon>Lakshmi>shitty
>>483593614Specially considering a pale skin was considered a sign of nobility.
>>483593670they sure as fuck aint avocado or sakuya
So, to get Sakuya I need to kill the rock dude?
>>483590625"My name is Garfield L'Zanya and i collect welfare"
>>483593735I think that was more Middle Ages. An even tan was actually a sign of high status in Rome because only the wealthy had time to sunbathe. The poors were pale if the worked indoors and had farmer’s tans if they worked outdoors.
>>483593140Doi specifically said that she's said to be of greek origin and that's why he made her white the fanbase wasn't this big, aside from people who dislike coom designs and Doimons overall. also there was worse design decisions to be mad about, Dagda being one, in japanese side people were memeing hard with matsuko deluxe Maitreyano one was paying that much attention to this design
>>483594002Yeah dude go kill her dad.
>>483590506turn based RPG? yeah i think so.
So, does that DLC really fix SMT V, are there better side quests etc?
>>483592959hory shit
>>483593140>>483593614Yeah Mediterranean people tend to range from brown to pale. The idea that Cleopatra looked black isn’t really historically informed.
https://gamebanana.com/mods/523816FINALLY
>>483594261It’s kind of weird though that a lot of popular culture depicts Greeks as lily white. Like there are some Greeks that look like that, but it’s not really the norm.
>>483594779>fictional high school girlUhh, isn't this gonna be taken down?
>>483595025It should be, one day we'll make it canon
>>483593614Being one of the few (or the only) white woman among a horde of darkskins it makes sense people thought she was the most beautiful they ever saw
>>483595025you have to consider that cleao in apoc is also an oc, every part of her body is stolen from a human in tokyoand it's already a part of the setup that tokyo in IV is the one with a billion tourists, so she practically has access to every possible racial genetic trait you can imagine
>>483581329This post really makes me want to have sex with you, anon.
>>483592959gozu tennoh?
>>483593140SMT is not popular enough for drama baiters to care.
I don't think any one Doi design was ever more controversial than idunn
>>483595523W-what
https://youtu.be/xyZ7gagpgsU?si=_ebp0WQWdQWhpA7VWho cares about VV anymore, Dead Rising is back baby
>>483596180Not a single design is controversial, it's just some faggot keeps crying about it.
>>483596421This doesn't need a remaster, I played the original just recently and it was fine
Almost no games need remasters
>>483589013
Come to the beach
He is sucker no more. He is now fucker.Why did Yuzuru never get a Chaos form?
>>483597227*Cum to the bitch
>>483597334Yuzuru was never chaos rep, Tsukuyomi is
>>483596421>new voice actingYeah, it's shit.
>>483596810Yet people were begging for the Raidou and DDS titles to be remastered
>>483597453Kinda feels like splitting hairs.
>>483597903Because it's the same as saying Russia has been run by Medvedev. You're supposed to focus on the CHAD, not his pussy tool.
Just got past the part where Yuzuru fights me I'm quite happy that Yuzuru doesn't feel like a cardboard cut out this time.
For those who have played a lot of VV and to a lesser extent V are there any balance decisions you were unsatisfied with? I'm doing a balance patch for the game and would like some input.
>>483598291Remove Magatsuhi
>>483598168Yuzuru is his pussy-tool alright...
Better, worse, or equal to Critical?
I miss IV:A smirk bros... why did they just give up on it instead of building upon it for some crappy special gauge
>>483598547Critical is shit and I'm tired of pretending it's not
>>483599154I actually think that's a good thing, hopefully they will try a new gimmick for VI too
>>483598547Better because after you use it you can hold onto it for a few turns until the gauge fills up again and THEN use Critical to make 4 attacks crits.If you build your beano for damage you can easily do over 10k damage with this combo.
>>483598547Its so easy to stack magatsuhi skills now with the increased gain rate that whether a skill is better than another isn't really the conversation anymore.Its not "critical vs omnipotent succession", its now "use critical first and fill up again to use omnipotent succession so you can use 4 critical murakumos in a row"
>>483599220It's ok to be retarded
>>483599506Got the order of the skills the wrong way around its as this guy says ofc >>483599491
>>483598537>Chaos is gay>Law and Neutral are straightSMTVV is over compensating for the chaos dickriding from Nocturne and DS1 Overclocked
>>483599285I hope it's bit more interesting than the gauge
>>483514423>lahmukabah
>>483599894Shut the fuck up bitch.
>all the skills in the Qaditsu essences>almighty pleroma, abyssal mask, critical zealot, murderous gleeWow it's like they wanted to fast forward the endgame STR build ASAP. Don't really know what to prioritize. The springs are an easy delete, but I'm lost from there.
>>483579590Who would be the guy standing up?
>>483600272Space marine
>>483600424Maybe its because I'm an SMT 2 fag but I feel like it should be Zayin. His whole arc is essentially that type of post. >I don't think law has to mean brainwashing and enslavement
>>483600272Freedom demifiend going " I don't think we should radically change the world"
>>483593318Do you even remember Tao in the original? She won bigly even if Naho is absent from her ending.
Would You?
>>483599616crit is shithttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oJLyesZqGnIhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tomxdX0Z0Dk
>>483601684>biglyGo back to /feh/
>>483601690believe in humans? noI wish a bomb nuked this planet
>>483601690I wouldn't anyone but Yuzu. Maybe Mari.
>>483602294Humans are the apex race, demon lover
very sad that they didn't fix essences still being a pain to get, i still hoarding the limited ones
>>483602942Apex at sucking
>>483601690I’m more of an Amane guy
>>483601690I would the cute retard
>>483605659She belongs to Vergil
>>483605659That’s Vergil’s retard
some good looking water in this game.
>>483604908amane sexo...plap plap plap>https://files.catbox.moe/obfkvu.jpg
>>483606934was this drawn on paint?
>>483605773>>483606449Is this some lucina X spiderman situation?
Atlus should read some CS Lewis.
>>483607198I wouldn't know, I'm not the artist. This guy is:>https://x.com/1999narurato
DLC doesn't seem to change that much, not good enough for me. Hope you guys are having fun though.
>>483588316I was about to say just get moneybags lmfao but that isn't a thing in devil survivor one so you have to grind free battles in that game.
Are you guys actually using your guests?
https://files.catbox.moe/d860v0.png
>>483607962Dazai only.
>>483607962I did until the second area, their skills costed too much MP for them to be useful
>>483608146its criminal how short Dazai stays with you
I have fantasies about female demons raping me
>>483596358Your post just sounds sexy. I really wouldn't mind jerking you off someday.
>>483608741First thing I did when I got him was to get the fuck out of Bethel Egypt, I'm doing sidequest with him now, and when I run out of sidequest then I'll continue the story.
>>483609294can you jerk me off?
giwtwm
>>483607271Maybe
>>483608947Which demons?
>>483609605Why not? Seeing people releasing hot sticky semen is hot.
>>483607962Monke
>missed out on grinding Dazaishit
>>483610010Abdiel...
>>483608947Anthony...
>>483609848God damn it, someone beat me to the cropped sahori reaction
>>483609848>>483610235made for bullying
>>483610250I want to replay debisama again but its not fun playing it in a language I can't understand.
Man V really dropped the ball hard didn't it
>>483609848thanks, response gave me a semi
>>483610235>>483609848made for loving and showing you're the only person she can trust
>>483610737>he got hard reading something a dude wroteholy shit what a faggot
what is a good enough level to try to defeat the bigger enemies on hard?
>>483610250I believe in Amaterasu supremacy
How does Satan decide who to use magatsuhi wellspring on?
Pulling a totally epic prank on sahori by anesthetising her in the middle of the night and removing her uterus! Putting a hidden camera in her room and seeing the absolutely hilarious expression on her face when she wakes up in the morning and feels the stiches!
>>483610473
>>483611147
>>483611192>>483611179
https://youtu.be/dPyVEH5tiJwThat reminds meWill we get design cometary for Tiamat and Tehom?
>>483610893Nobody asked you to be a party pooper, idiot.
>>483610618Do you know some spanish at least?
>>483610893let me goon
Got this pretty early. Looks really good.>>483611260Debisama movie when
>>483611637I love how the cutscenes of this game look like an actual stage play and a damn good one.
>>483612198I found out I accidentally recorded 5 Gbs of DDS 1+2.
>>483611496Yeah a little bit plus if it gets translated into Taco I can get some practice in.
>>483611346>26:00>Mastema sleeping for 8 press turnskek
>>483611346>merkabah and lahmu were pretty popular designs so I combined them haha
>>483613310seethe
>>483613374Its funny
Lahmu is so gross
>>483614000Lahmu isn't even an accurate design. Lahmu is a hairy humanoid not an ooga booga mask. I like the design, its just unfitting for the entity.
>>483610849Based
Quadistu battle theme > Divine Powers battle themeLuv me some distorted vocals.
>>483588039He is chinese,made me think of how big the smt mdoding community is in china i know they are pretty autistic when it comes to modding some games
>>483558159>>483558432>>483559326They should have just made 3d Last Bible if they wanted fantasy jrpg megaten again
>>483609574>>483608741Yeah, I did that too since I knew he apparently didn't stay for long, and you can just go back to explore Shinjuku for a while, until you get to rails blocked by the angels.
I would be more interested in Metaphor if they changed the UI. Persona 5 again just doesn't do it for me.
>>483614865But then the 10 people in the world who have played Last Bible would be pissed
Sahori ryona?
Should I just recruit and then re fuse my old demons in godborn mode since all the demon fodder is level 150 with insane states or just level them up to level l150 and they will end up with the same amount of states?
>>483615025I just wanted the characters to look good
>>483614953Imagine...
should i be pumping strength or magic?
I want hodag in smt 6 greetings from wisconsin
so much fun
>>483615025It feels like this will be the UI going forward for all Atlus games, even SH2 had it, and all outlets are praising it.
>>483614147Isn't the funny gecko thing technically his true form?
>>483586948Why not sh2 ardha?
Wish me Luck!
>>483600014Was kinda hoping for suggestions posting this...
>>483589353Classikbros fucking won
>>483615028The novelty of fighting the Great Will and not his Home Simpson faced malfunctioning security cameras is just too good
>>483616157such a dumb design
>>483616157Good luck! Be careful of the demons
>>483616645nah bro you tripping
>>483616157Rush his ass
>>483616645kanekocucks would suck anything and and call it peak art
>>483617463doifags be like "yo this design is fire!!!"
>>483617602this is pretty badass ngl
>>483617602i want to fuck this thing
>>483617602>doi gets clowned on for his humanoid demons>try to clown on him with one of his only unique and interesting designsHmm.
>>483618302>unique and interestingIt's literally a statue of the god
>>483618302He just drew his bad dragon dildo from his shelf
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RGxf7G3Xpj4
>>483579608This was such a shitty segment. I thought after the boy and his dog being the easiest fight in the game (on hard mode) up to that point, we would get another Eisheth fight there, but no, she just goes away because ???
>>483615162Str you dumb asaposter
>>483619948str is boring as fuck
>>483617602>>483618534>Xshe is mad about african religion representationmust be american
>>483620442Bait used to be believable
>>483618534Whats the problem with that? Kaneko did the same thing with the four heavenly kings. Don't be a sperg.
>>483620947Kaneko made them look good, that is the key difference
>>483621172Again I don't see the problem with Doi's Nyami Nyami. Is it the inorganic look?
>KanekoThe NFT guy?
I'm him. it's me. I'm the Nahobino.
It's crazy how desperate Doifags want Doi to be the next Kaneko, while all he is, is just some failed Soejima assistant who wasn't good enough to work on Persona so he got relegated to drawing for SMT.His current style is really ugly, it's like this blend of Kaneko and Soejima's styles but no creativity behind it, as a result we are stuck with those washed out colors and semi-realistic shading that looks uncanny with his anime-esque style. It looks much nicer when he just sticks to celshaded coloring
>>483621952I still cannot believe most of the cut designs from 4A were so much better
>>483621952the only desperate ones are the Kaneko fags, Doi is doing a pretty decent job and you faggots act like he robbed Kaneko of his job. Kaneko doesn't give a fuck about SMT anymore, its time to move on.
Doi derangement syndrome.
Sometimes I forget that these dumb girls are always chilling off-camera behind me and my demons
>Tell Yakumo that he's relying on demon's power and he's a hypocrite because he's nothing without Nuwa>"There's no hypocrisy in my vision">proceeds to be a massive fucking hypocrite by stabbing Nuwa not to prove he doesn't need her, but to dramatically consume a Bead to heal himselfYou have no idea how I hated that Destroying the thone in CoC made it seem like I was following this moron's words.
>>483622091In art departments it's the higher ups who mostly decide on the final designs, it's not really on Doi to not go for his concept art designs. Someone likely saw the white Krishna and had to tell Doi to cut it out or he'll piss off some people
Boomers are really delusional. Why do you play JRPGs if you hate anime artstyle so much? Kaneko art is dated, Either move on or live in the past and shut the fuck up.
>>483622442you do the hard work while they chill>>483622598I wish they used Nuwa for something better i really like her design
>>483622615It isn’t even “boomers”, most ofKaneko’s rabid fanbase are dumb zoomers, see Vesk.
>>483622613Lul, maybe.
>>483622615kaneko art style was good when it was pure anime/old manga style
>Boomers are really delusional. Why do you play JRPGs if you hate anime artstyle so much? Kaneko art is dated, Either move on or live in the past and shut the fuck up.
>>483622751Is the Japanese MegaTen fandom like this when it comes to Kaneko too or is it one of those things that's just the western fanbase overthinking stuff.
Feels good knowing I'm the only person in smtg who likes both new and old Atlus games.
>>483623742Even metabore?
You guys just bored or something?
>>483622615It's not boomers it's that age between 21~28, where you take yourself too seriously and want to feel like everything you do is on a higher standard, as if it made a difference what kind of games you consume when you're still paying games like an adolescent. When you hit 30s you chill out and realize that everything is enjoyable if you put an effort to enjoy it. >>483622598The curious part about this is how it would've been much better for his character if this scene happened before the fight, not after it. If you called out his Hypocrisy, Yakumo stabs Nuwa, THEN you proceed to fight solo Yakumo it would actually not only be cool but it would seem like he's being honest about not needing Nuwa to succeed and she's the one tagging along with him. His character is easy to write I feel the issue is that the writers didn't want him to be too agreeable on purpose to try and add Nuwance to his character, but kinda fumbles him.
>>483623901>Do you like a game you haven't played yet?
>>483623620There’s some people that don’t like Doi there but from what I’ve seen they don’t have an equivalent to the incredibly small “community” (if you can call it that) of larpers that we have.
>>483623901I dunno yet I haven't played it but I am excited for it
>>483623975Nah, he's meant to be a hypocrite considering the exposition you get later. He grew up with demons as his only friends. His whole "I fight for humanity and will eliminate all demons" stuff is him trying to hold onto his humanity because it'd much easier for him to just let it go.When you meet him after Nuwa's death he acknowledges how hypocritical and directionless he was. You can get two neat scenes with him in Tokyo afterwards, which just makes him not being a playable ally kind of baffling.
i want to FUCK tao
>>483623978You have to understand that TORtanicfags decide they hate a game before they even touch it, sometimes even before they see any gameplay.
Vergil DLC when
>>483624235Metaphor is the closest we'll ever get to DDS3
how do you install mods i dont really get it. I just want to download a spyglass mod, and I put the pak file in a ~mods folder in the content folder with all the other paks but it doesnt work...
>>483624616Yeah, you're probably right. I'm just excited to see a new Atlus game with a proper, full fledged class system.
>>483593140The "Cleo was BLAAAHHHKKKK" shit kinda died a long while ago outside of a few parts of twitter and the tv industry that refuses to move on. Even asscreed infamous for woke shit and revisionism made her a proper Greek back in 2017 (though that did cause some backlash back then lol).
Doi's problem is all the blonde girls doing cosplayBetter than whoever the fuck they contracted for IV abominations though
>>483624889Any classes caught your eye so far?I love the Megaten nods like Devil Summoner and Soul Hacker
>>483624720>cheating
>>483624616Metaphor is the closest we'll ever get to what SMTxFE should have beenAnd I don't even hate Tokyo Mirage Sessions either
>>483623742I have more respect to Vfags than straight up consoomers like you.
>>483625438Yes, I want to cheatI already have 180 hours on the switch game, I can't do this again
>>483625496He never said he liked EVERY Atlus game, anon…
>>483623742I think every evolution and experiment has made sense, even if some were failures like smirk.I can see the Magatsuhi mechanic returning in future SMT games just with a bit better balancing so there's more than 3 or 4 ones worth using (and one of the only few worth using isn't the first one you ever get)
>>483625192Brawler for sure, I always like playing RPGs with big braindead idiots who just hit really hard. I'll probably try three brawlers and a healer, or maybe a Red Mage function if they have something similar to support and play offensively. Merchant and gunner too I'm interested in, especially if gunner works like Etrian and maybe we'll get binds in the game.
If SMT went full anime coom and stopped preserving some Kaneko designs, the series would be a lot more successful.
>>483625782They dumped smirk after Apocalypse had perfected it. I could see Magatsuhi just end up seen as "this game's gimmick".
>>483625615How much have you ruined your attention span if you can’t handle using spyglasses?
>>483625896Soul Hackers 2 proves you wrong
>>483625615there's no need of a spyglass cheat, if you want to make the mitamas easier then just fuse a matador and give him a yabusame shot.
>>483625783It seems like gunner has single target +aliment on his skills. I wonder how much the row system affects the battles. The party healing seems to be locked to rows, where it doesn't heal the entire party but all allies in the same row
>>483624720>is too lazy to just Google a demons name if he wants to cheat and not use a turn on spyglass>needs to cheat on 4x mitama which is intended for you to have to use almighty attacks or use a skill to prevent their escape
>>483625948>>483626113>>483626381late game mitamas are too fat for me, they have like 1800 health. skill issue I don't care
>>483626684matador has a chance to insta kill on crit, use him with yabusame shot and keep a demon with trickery on your party to increase those chances.
>>483626684Retard-kun… Gems exist, use more then 3 demons…
>>483625896They're already doing that with Apocalypse and V, which are pretty successful. Maybe they'll have Doi redesign someone like Titania to make her more sexy in the next mainline entry. >>483625974SH2 was made for older players in mind, which didn't work well considering most of the japanese fanbase is well...young teens.
>>483626845yeah but how do i use the gem if i dont know its weakness.. how do i even use more than 3 demons. the party size is 4>>483626828I never fused matador except for the compendium, fine. but thats so retarded. reee
>>483626319>The party healing seems to be locked to rows, where it doesn't heal the entire party but all allies in the same rowOh I didn't even notice that, that's really interesting. I hope it affects battles enough to where you have to think about it, but not the focal point of the system, if that makes any sense.
>>483627007>SH2 was made for older players in mindwhat in blazes
>>483625896How about going back to the real anime roots and giving tits like lilith and other demons?
>>483624271Yes, I get that part what I question is the need for the writers to write him as a hypocrite with mediocre execution in the narrative of the plot. It feels like they drafted Yakumo's role in the plot initially, said "he's too good, don't make him too good" and piled a ton of negatives on his character so the players wouldn't default to him and Vengance kinda follows up on this. Right when he's been a good character he does something dumb that makes him disagreeable again. It would've been much simpler if they didn't tried too hard to make him disagreeable by giving him an aggressive and crude take on innocent people and made Nuwa a more mellow form of Dagda that honestly aligns with Yakumo rather than presenting her as a hard simp for him.
So what's the actual power rating/increase for heavenly ikumi and megido ark?
>>483625192Any idea what those classes do? At least they still acknowledge those series too
>>483627041I mean>use spyglass>see the weakness>switch some demons in that can hit the weakness and hit itYou need to have coverage for any scenario, it’s not the spyglass’s fault, you’re just bad at planning ahead. The only difficult Mitama fights are when they spawn in with a strong enemy, ambush you, then hit you with a Debilitate.
>>483627210I mean, if you did that you'd just run into the usual issue of Neutral being perfect compared to Law and Chaos. Base V at least had fairly balanced alignment factions. And in Vengeance you can't side with him anyway.
>>483625896The only thing that might work (but it very well might not) for SMT is better graphics, sexier main characters (and continuing the vengeance idea of letting you have them in the party most the time), better animations, and more cutscenes. Because the demon designs aren't really going to bring people in.I'm keeping my eye on expedition 33 since they very blatantly are going for a fusion of DDS, Persona UI, Final Fantasy, and Mario rpgs. I do think what has held people back from SMT is that in general it just always looks a lot more rough than Persona games.
>>483626828Trickery doesn't increase instakill chance. Loa is the one that doubles instakill chances for everyone with his passive. Sorry you had to find out this way.
>>483627656yea i meant Loa's ability, i just saw someone type trickery and probably got it confused. i forgot what its called.
>>483627069It seems like they want players to plan their turns out more in advance, the doesn't seem to be any indication so far of party wide buff outside the combo skills, which will add an interesting dynamic to how you play out your turns in boss battles because the system seems like it was designed around making use of those combo skills a lot. One of those archetypes also unlocks a combo skill that makes enemies weak to an element for 1 attack.
>>483627552? I haven't unlocked the skill to let demons use the spyglass yet, so no even with full elemental coverage on everyone only mc can use the spyglass which is why im so annyoyed
I'm still him. The Nahobino. It's still me. I'm that guy.
>>483628115You will never be a guy, fujo.
>>483628094That’s why you can switch in demons that can hit it, it only takes half a press turn and demons can do it to themselves. Bino uses the spyglass, if your current party can’t hit it you swap them out with ones feom the stock that can.
>>483627593I feel that's more of a fault of presenting Law or Chaos too disagreeable for the player. For as much as Deep Strange Journey gets shit on for the added content, the new Chaos and new Law endings are perfect in terms of showing the alternatives to Neutral as being good in their own regards.
>>483627535Soul Hacker is an all rounder, it has attack buffs/wind magic that pierces and restores some SP per target hitDevil summoner we don't know yet, but it's probably gonna work with the row system where you jump into back row and summon a mob to the front. But this is just a speculation, since Hashino mentioned it summons monsters
>Virus Carrier>Successful ailment affliction will not consume Press Turn while under Omagatoki effectsI hate that so many demons have this shitty passive. Mad Gasser and Fafnir don't deserve this shit.
>denuvo>no switch versionit's over for me metaphor lads
>>483627041>how do i even use more than 3 demons. the party size is 4Nigga what Did you not see the CHANGE option
>>483625130You shut the fuck up they had Garo's designer
>>483627142Yeah. I played the game and it's pretty clear that the game was made purely for older players in mind as there's mature subjects throughout the story and bar scenes, which are a major turnoff to young players. Which speaking of young players, they're the reason why every mainline entry since IV is questionable in terms of writing and being more tame when compared to previous entries. SMT V even had the whole bullying subplot because it's actually relatable to young players.
>>483628876If you're planning on getting the switch 2 there's like a 99% chance it'll make it there I'd bet it'll be a launch title or out in the first month or two as well.
>>483628286>bino uses the spy glass>next turn demon can use their skill>waste two turns to skip back to the front since I don't know their weakness after that>bino uses it, can kill again >too late anyways since the other two demons can't use the spy glass>so I only leave with two dead since I don't know the weakness?I've still had the mitama escape before when using the skills that don't allow it either so I don't think it's viable either
>>483628876What kind of monopoly money are you working with anon?
>>483622751>see Vesk.No Ill go to jail
>>483629210I'm a poor NEET
>>483622615Its the indulgent nature of Otaku culture
>>483629187Killing all 4 before they escape is not to be expected until late game.
>>483629187What the hell are you talking about? You can view enemies’ info ingame, it says so on the UI, you don’t have to use another spyglass, how did you not kill it on the first turn either?
>>483629140>and bar scenes, which are a major turnoff to young playersThis is a joke, right?
>>483629293
>>483629393I'm talking literally only about mitama not regular shitters or bosses at all because they are Irelevant.>>483629368I've already beat the game 4 times on Switch, I just want it easier now okay
>>483629467I refuse to work in this economy
>>483628876>no switch versionOh shit really? They might have actual graphics in the game for once.
>>483629714haha... yeah...
>>483629632AM I HAVING A STROKE OR ARE YOU JUST THAT BAD AT THIS GAME
>>483629632>I just want it easier now okayThen buy the dlc?
>Press turns>Combo spells>Mantra>Devil Summoner, Soul Hacker>MAG>Digital Devil Story spell namesBros...I thought Hashino hated us...
>>483629714>muh graphicsgo back >>>/v/>>>/reddit/
>>483629632You actually might be retarded, I just gave you a step-by-step guide on how to kill them. It’s simple shit.
>>483629406Do you seriously think young players want to watch characters talk in a boring bar about mature topics or talk about wacky things in a environment that's more interesting like a apocalyptic wasteland?
>>483629967>assblasted tendielmao keep seething while I enjoy SMTV at 4k at 144Hz
Anyone know the best navigators for sutras and incense?
>>483630161Alice.
>>483630060There's literally a straight up blatant alcoholic character you talk to in a bar for 90% of her social links in persona 5
>>483629967The performance in switch was shit stop beinga fanboy
>>483629863Are you having a stroke are you retarded? There's 4 mitama and only 1 character can use the spyglass all demons may have all magic but I can't kill all of them because mitamas have random fucking weaknessDo you not understand this very basic part of the game?All I fucking asked was how do you even install paks if I made the ~mod folder in the content folder and put the unzipped pak file in that same said ~mod folder and it didn't work
>>483630161the dragon
>>483630069so cool bro, do you have RTX 8069 to see horse balls in 16K too?
>>483630273And she's the least popular social link in that game...kinda proving anon right
>>483630429But people liked the politician and the teacher and the doctor too. This is a weird argument.
>>483630302>and only 1 character can use the spyglass
>>483630302No Im not I use almighty attacks and I would use one on your mother's pregnant fat ass if I could you inbred hillbilly knuckledragging fucking hee hoo dumbass dickweed shit ass
>>483624361Its been so long. feels like a life time ago>>483625935Shame it was removed. i loved IV:A smirk and gameplay overall. Id do anything for a SMT IV remake with IVA gameplay/fixed mechanics
Man, I really wish Kaneko never went to work at Atlus so Doi would never be a thing either and then I would not have the displeasure to read retarded zoomer faggotry about Kaneko since Aya Nishitani's work would be another piece thing turned into some obscure piece of gaming trivia. Just say that you like Doi and that's it.
>>483630527NTA but I'm pretty sure western fans like the politician and the doctor chick is popular because she's just hot + most of her social link is just drugging Joker.
>>483630429Because she's a boring character, not because she talks to you in a bar.People loved the coffee shop aesthetic of Persona 5, which is the same shit as a bar for all intents and purposes. Some of people's favorite social links are also the most mature characters with the most mature topics like Yoshida
>>483630387>RTX 8069 to see horse balls in 16K too?Anon why the fuck are you talking about 16k horseballs
>>483630637all this mental gymnastic just to repeat the same shit you've been saying all thread. we heard you the first time.
>>483630537I said I don't have that skill yet, I do know I've played the fucking game but so early I don't have any of that and don't want to bother with it>>483630563kys, early game theres like no almighty skills and pierce takes too much turns if it doesn't crit yet
>>483630302The human companions exist for the purpose of having more than one character that can use items.Every human companion can use spyglass
>>483631024I DON'T HAVE THEM I DON'T HAVE THE HUMANS
>>483630563>you inbred hillbilly knuckledragging fucking hee hoo dumbass dickweed shit assI kneel.
>>483631157Wait are you grinding your ass off 10 minutes into the game or something?
>>483631157Keep playing the game then, holy shit you have autism
Why do people dislike Doi so much?Personally I prefer SMT3s demons the most, and I think old and new designs look weird together sometimes, but I love some of Doi's like the fox whose name Im too retarded to spell right. And its just a preferences not hate at all. But the other day Stumbled on a giant blog about how doi isnt historically accurate and shit.
>>483631157You are the one person in the world who got undertale genocide accidentally aren't you
>>483630563I'm giggling in a restaurant reading this.
>>483631380not kanekochange badsimple as
>>483631380the ones who dislike doi are a vocal minority
>>483630995Why would I kill myself becuase YOU'RE retarded?Why do you even need miitamas that early? Why can't you google basic bitch questions? Why dont you make Yoko and Toa use spy glasses or are you even that far?
>>483631296>>483631279YES I HAVE AUTISM AND I LIKE GRINDING IT IS THE FUNNEST PART OF SMT FOR ME BUT I HATE EARLY GAME FARMING BUT THATS ALL IM DOING RIGHT NOW SO LATE GAME IT WILL BE EASIER AND I'LL HAVE TO DO SO MUCH LESS>>483631393I will never play that trash, but many people have gotten it accidentally if they go in blind
>>483631587You should kill yourself because clearly your life is completely worthless if this is what gets you worked up
>this nigga was grinding mitama dlc 20 minutes into the game to be 40 levels above the tutorial enemies
for the few sepculationfags>one person made a Yoko and nobody has bought it>nobody has bought Cironnup>Jack Frost and Decerabia were selling, stabilized around .6 usd>Pyro jack's value has been crashing>Mothman and Tao have not been crafted yet since it is still rare.
mitama anon has to be trolling
>>483631646Actually Mitama scale their rewards throughout the game. So the very early Mitama barely drop anything worthwhile. Just play the game until you hit a wall then start grinding.
>>483631646re-hee-tard
>>483631670You should come kill me first then because Im always mad at retardheetardhoos like yourself.
>>483631380I don't hate the guy, he's just the worst compared to the others and he is not helping himself by refusing to get a proper art team like Kaneko and Soejima did before him. And I have simply no respect for a guy that refuses to call his predecessor by it's name and simply calls him "previous artist", that shit made me mad.
>>483631646But if you don't grind this early in the game which you aren't even enjoying you wouldn't need to grind and do something you don't enjoy?????????
>>483631948Sure thing, my name is Diabetes Mellitus and I'm coming at you real soon.
>>483631821no they don't, only the macca ones and glory do but who CARES I'M STILL FARMING THEM I reached the cap for grimoire so I don't need them and I'll pretty much never use gospels>>483632219I will enjoy it when I get 4 spyglass mod
>HEYHEYHEY uhh HUHI smile every timeSimple as
>>483631801Nah I've seen early game grind autism before, I can unironically see a faggot go for level 99 in the first area by grinding a ton of gospelsBut it's pretty insane to not just get yoko for a 2nd spyglass user when she's like, 1-2 hours in.
>>483632462Why are you doing this
>>483632502>dubfagcringe
i do some mitama early game grind to get demons to my level too, but i only grind the red ones and some yellow for fusion though
>>483632502I love Amanozako so much, gonna smoosh her in my arms and kiss her forehead
>>483632462Wait, you're not grinding for gospels, you don't care about macca or glory, then why are you grinding them at all?
>>483632635autism, so my ng+ cycles will be easier and less annoying also I'm sweating so hard for the steam achievements and 100% compendium>>483632519I'm not playing cov I'm playing coc (yes, I know)
>>483632689I wasnt trying to grind on purpose but when I got to Shinjuku I put on riberoma for the first time to see what it does and the consecutive battles seem busted for how much experience and levels I got. Even miitamas showed up..now everything runs from me..
>>483632848Your game will never be 100% complete because you're using cheatcodes
>>483632762I do care about those, it's for later in the gameglory mitama are easy its the yellow ones who suck
>>483632848>I beat this game 4 times in switch already I just want things to be easier>plays CoC firstI just don't understand you nigger. You are clearly made from something else.
God made me an autistic retard, but I'm glad he didn't make me as bad as Mitama anon.
>>483632848>playing CoC AGAIN>Not even bothering to experience the straight up upgraded storyJust download a cheat engine and give yourself level 99 and unlimited macca and gloryI can't help you. No one can.
>>483633084This is, very funny enough, true.
>overleveled at the start with the best demons>now all that remains is the boring running through the level and taking the mimanswhy would someone do this to themselves
>>483633401IM GOING TO PLAY IT EVENTUALLYbut its been 2 years I don't remember what even happened >>483633084Not true because I can't even install the cheats to make it work so your point is null>>483633571IM NOT overleveling my bino he will be at normal level but even then playing coc and doing all the shitty stuff first THEN going back and playing cov and having fun
Yoko car autism vs mitama anon grind autismWho wins the Lego cup?
>>483633571I'm a newborn chad. Every playthrough I treat like the first. I never understood going reborn and speedrunning to the end for the other endings. I like to earn that shit.
>>483633739>is killing 100s of mitamas, the enemies that grimoires and gospels aside give the most xp in the game>"I'm not overleveling my bino!"Lol
>>483633739LIAR your bino is LITERALLY at 99 I KNOW IT
>>483633739Go into combat with a local non mitama enemy and screenshotI want to see your Bino's level compared to the enemies around him
someone should invent a cure for autism
Young man.I wonder if they ever had planned for multiple different proto-fiends to fuse with and then scrapped the idea because they are lazy fucks and only did the bare minimum to put the game out.
>>483634252I know a 'cure' for autism but no one believes me. You stick them (us) on a nasa g force machine. Im too tired to explain it...but gforces fix autism temporarily a nasa spinny thing would probably do it for years.
>>483634125>>483634015the name is an inside joke
In my databanks I have found blueprints for a proto-fiend with huge tits. I suspect it might be a female. Or perhaps the Nahobino would have liked to have tits despite being a young man? Human beings are hard to understand.
>>483634468What if I have really bad motion sickness?
>>483634606
>>483634751tranny mod
>>483634535also on the switchI'm playing magic now
>>483635000>99 99 99 99I knew it... You motherfucker
>>483635063new thread
>Eisheth Zenunim makes kids obsess over body parts they hate>they mutilate themselves just as she plannedAm I being a schizo or did Atlus really take a stand against groomers? And in a game where the hero is voiced by a "bi enby" (female)? It's too based to be true.
>>483635045nyo.. its from 2022
>>483635000>censored the last name implying you used your own last nameYou are gay
>>483634751Is there a futa mod?
>>483635352well the name is my sisters name which is why its an inside joke me and my dad name our character after my sister
>>483635609wtf
Anyone know if there is a mod that disables the menu music? I would prefer for it to continue playing the field music while I am in the menu. It's jarring have it start up every time I need to menu.
>>483630646Konohana Sakuya? More like Konohana Suck my dick