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medic booba
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my parents beat me
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>looking for mimi sentry mods on gamebanana to see if I can turn one into a server plugin
>there's a few but they're all varying degrees of bad/broken

man, casual and sv_pure really killed the client modding scene for this game, there's several good SFM models but nobody wants to make them into actual working sentry models
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Daily reminder. A good medic baits teammates regularly
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>>483740093
ahhh... this OP reminds me of the time I dommed this incel... kek, good times indeed
i'd bet he's another 'tf2 must stay casual' type who really wishes to conceal his own shit skill
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>>483740093
he did get the kill doe
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Bot xisters, Weezy and the fixtf2 movement actually managed to get all our bots banned
Our response???
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>>483740618
No wonder you trooned out, zesty boy
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>>483740604
hot
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>>483740813
I'm too ugly for that, if you wanna swallow the pink pill at least look passable like goddamn I'm sick of trying to jack off to these conehead looking trannies
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>>483739480
ponies are a confirmed TF2 culture
judging by what you weirdos masturbate to
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>>483740936
alright i think im done with this website now bye
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>>483741062
This.
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>>483741062
>ponies are a confirmed TF2 culture
https://wiki.teamfortress.com/w/images/2/2a/Spy_autocappedintelligence01.wav
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>>483740604
Other soldier main here have to say that sounds hot as shit
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*spreads ass* konata.tf is almost full get in here gamers!
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is the bot banwave real or cope
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>>483742138
It's real, the question is if it's isolated or if there's more to come.
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>>483742138
It's cope
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>>483741062
They were never TF2 culture, simply a plague that infested the game because it was popular around the same time. It died off like the fad it was and now you never see them anymore. If they were "culture" they'd still be around. Instead, they were replaced by the next plague in the form of trannies (many of whom were probably indoctrinated because of ponies).
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>>483742138
I haven't heard about bot hosters coping and seething so probably not real
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>>483742138
Real. Weezy went into an Adderall overdose induced hyperfocus frenzy and personally killed most bot hosters
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posting my /tf2g/ poll here again

https://docs.google.com/forms/d/e/1FAIpQLSdpjGyjbqBSIpcEbJTXdnVA5N32oDy4NBv64K8Nc0TW0YfDnw/viewform?usp=sf_link

fill it out fraggers :3
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>>483742138
It's real cope
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>>483742138
Anon, if Shounic says something, then its real.
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>>483741062
ponies are literally canon to the tf2 universe
https://wiki.teamfortress.com/w/images/0/09/Heavy_fairyprincess10.wav
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>>483742717
datamining link do not click
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>>483742717
we already have 3 different dead servers
we do not need a new one
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>>483742779
>quick, sell the information about the furry pound players
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>>483743035
>tfw still banned on furry pound
feels fucking good
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>>483743035
people spray some good stuff on those
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>>483743581
funny how sprays with toddlercon are okay but I cannot name my short circuit "Nigga Tickla"
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In a week from now when we re-redefine fixing tf2 back to the bots being dealt with, there's always this.
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Was fun games at Konata.tf
Thanks Konata-anon
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>>483742138
I don't see any reason to lie about it
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>>483743885
but if you don't kick regular players and always vote no, they will stay on the server and it will not become a quarantine zone, right? Wouldn't it make more sense to vote yes and keep the bots hostage?
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>>483743885
>when we re-redefine fixing tf2 back to the bots being dealt with
you may have your own grievances but this is always what the movement has been about
the primary argument is that valve should not be allowed to monetize a game which is not functional. you may dislike casual but if there are no bots then the game is functional
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>You're awful Zesty.
>>Awful? How am I awful, Weezy?
>Inviting me to the stream, sleep deprived, debunking my arguments-- You just wanted to make fun of me and my movement. Well it's easy to laugh at an adderall junkie
>>You don't know the first thing about me, pal. You could have just accepted the boycott
>What do you get when you cross a gambling addict with a community that abandons him when #fixtf2 fails, and asks him to not spend money on his favourite hat trading gacha game
>You get what you fucking deserve!!
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>>483744146
Anti bots shouldn't be able to tell other anti bots are not players. The point is that they don't have to.
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>play mvm
>meet a high tour
>he goes pyro and uses gas passer
?????????????
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>>483744468
embarrassing post
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>>483744898
Gas Passer makes the game go by faster and carries shitters early

Sincerely, a high tour Gas Passer user
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JOIN KONATA BEFORE IT DIES
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>this name
hngh...........
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I've been trying out the mastercom thingy
>8 of the servers I got were Uncletopia servers
>5 were from Skial
>I got 4 empty servers
>5 casual.tf servers (all empty)
>2 "No carts" servers from panda
>Three decent servers, one's filled with people on VC doing stupid shit, second is only active at night but it has some chill people while the third is filled with slavs but has some interesting maps.
>Got suggested the konata server
>And I just got this
So its a 25:4 rate on whenever I get a good server or not, and while I don't think its a good rate, I hope it weakens Skial/Uncletopia/Panda's chokehold on EU servers.
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>>483745041
MVM addicts need stimulants to stay playing for marathon sessions. If some monkey makes it any more mindless they'll doze off and lose valuable pulls on the lever.
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>>483745278
Lots of people joined castaway today from the mastercoms quickplay, so it might work. We'll see.
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>>483745280
More reason to keep using Gas then. They can't abuse drugs if they're asleep
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>>483743773
yeah those arent the good stuff
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>>483742138
It's real and there are a lot of people who can't accept the fact that the reviewbombing was successful. Everyone is so blackpilled but they don't understand TF2 is a comedy, not a tragedy. We'll be getting a balance update soon (probably).
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>>483744228
And I agree, I'm just referencing that the discourse rapidly turns to "well actually x is what's needed" when the bots get zapped. When they're back, we have the same problem to solve.
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>>483740705
At least now thanks to sv_pure nobody cheats in casual
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>the best TF2 group there exists
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>>483746615
Thanks, joined.
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Bots will be back in 24 hours after they just buy more accounts. If there aren't regular ban-waves, it means nothing.
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>>483746615
would join but then people would post my account here
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not medicine
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>>483747041
who cares
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Aaaand my bots are back up
Hope you had fun with your 1 day off :]
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>>483745593
I dont care what the good stuff is either way I just find it fucked up that tastelessness is okay when THEY do it
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>>483747041
See
>>483747125
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>>483747152
I already fucked your asshole raw
your day off has ended
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>>483746057
ive thought about balance so much for the last 5 years that if a balance update does come im unironically gonna be pissed if valve doesnt read my mind and implement my PERFECT ideas
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>>483747041
you really think you are that important dumbass?
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https://github.com/RosneBurgerworks
#KillTF2
#DeathToTF2
#SupportTF2BotHosters
#TF2MostOverratedGame
BOT HOSTING TUTORIAL: https://youtu.be/bNoTEz2_BqY
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If you still play matchmaking now that we have proper options, you deserve it.
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>>483747590
Anon I...
They're all gone
Your'e tutorial is now worthless
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>>483747590
fake and gay
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>>483746057
>balance update
>caber can one tap medics again
>Ambassador actually buffed to a not garbage state
>Diamondback castrated
>tomislav gutted
>scorch shot deleted
>sniper ammo count nerf
>huntsman gets extra ammo
>cleaver can mini crit anyone under a status effect
>the shortstop has its reload cycle slightly speed up to match the reload animation
I can dream
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>>483747041
My account's been posted here before, no one cares about (You).
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>Valve decides to update VAC and permanently gets rid of bots
>Puts game on maintenance mode, no more updates. Not even Halloween/Christmas, nothing.
>Shit weapons are still shit and never fixed
>Casual matchmaking is still shit and game devolves into horrendous competitive mindset
I can see the future
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>>483744468
Cool post
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zesty sex
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dead game
dead general
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Yet you come here :3
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>>483748431
not as dead as the Dota general lol
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BASED KAL
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>>483747754
>tomislav gutted
its already gutted compared to the ridiculous bullshit it was before
>caber can one tap medics again
thats a bit cancer, make it deal 130 damage
>sniper ammo count nerf
does literally NOTHING
>scorch shot deleted
are you a redditor? soldier does spam better than pyro ever could
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>>483748760
TF2 is saved
like, unironically
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>>483748760
I forgot to mention I'm trans which why I think multibillion corporations are based
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>>483741062
this
cringe as shit fad but they're inexorably connected at this point
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>>483747340
>>483747754
I don't think any of the changes are going to be radical, in fact it'll probably just be the most uncontroversial changes like buffing the Righteous Bison and nerfing the Wrangler shield resistance.
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>>483749039
just because you inject trans fats by the gallon doesn't make you trans though
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>>483745278
Panda definitely doesn't have a chokehold on EU servers. They've been pretty dead here and the only thing that keeps them afloat is the VSH server.
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imagine if the bots being permanently gone causes the bot hosters for go fully insane?
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oh fuck
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>>483749039
yes everybody at VALVe wrote that message from Kal
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>>483749565
oh wait they locked my account saying it might been hijacked
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>>483749172
HOW TO FIX THE WRANGLER:
reduce the shield resistance to 50% (2x health instead of 3x), keep the repair rate penalty while shield is up at 66%
removing the shield or reducing the resistance to 33% is a BAD IDEA because the only reason people use the wrangler is because its the best way for engineer to stop a push that wouldve otherwise destroyed his whole nest. nerf the wrangler and now everyone turtles behind sentries.
imagine this, a soldier pops out from outside your sentrys range and shoots a rocket. you pull out the wrangler and begin shooting. first rocket hits, 2 more hits and sentry is down. you continue to shoot him, dealing chip damage because sentrys have falloff and arent as accurate as you think they are. he fires a second rocket, now 1 more hit and your shit is GONE.
you have 2 choices to make in this situation, either
>start repairing sentry
and hell just keep spamming since hes out of range without the wrangler
>keep shooting
hes guaranteed to get 1 more rocket off by the time you kill him, your sentry is dead
basically, its a lose-lose. the range extension is shit compared to just moving your sentry
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valve should just put me in charge
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xhe won

bot chuds lost (their money)
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>>483748760
Bot host sissies we need to do something about this, I don't have dilators big enough to handle it!!!
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>>483749829
we know Gabber
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>>483748760
>disruptive activity
>disruption
interesting choice of words instead of just calling it cheating or hacking or botting. valve still needs to fix vac though or there's no point to any of this.
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>>483749829
valve should put ME in charge, bro im a total GENIUS, the greatest idea guy to ever live unironically. all my ideas are SUPERB, and would #FIXTF2
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>>483747041
People posted my account a few days ago and nobody cared
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>>483732945
>>483733247
>>483734541
If fucking STARRYKROW and ZESTY JESUS are the right-wingers of our time, it's a fucking SHAMBOLIC state
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>>483750190
This but unironically
I'm Shounic btw
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>>483750190
i can #fix any weapon, bros. heres how id #fixdalokohsbar
>healing increased to 150 so it can compete with the second banana as a proper solo heavy lunchbox item
ez
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holy shit starykrow just posted leaks from the bot hoster discord, check his twitter
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>>483749829
Valve should put Grouch in charge. He would save tf2 with his genius balance changes.
Behold!
https://youtu.be/UixIn83h7m0?si=DiwbwiVPNi5f8z9D
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>>483750620
holy shit your mom's pussy just got flooded with me cum
check her bedroom!
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>>483747754
Not too bad of a take.

>caber can one tap medics again
If that apply that's also possible that they gonna increase self inflicted damage as well. You will not just incur 100 damage to one tap a 150 health class. The trade-off is not balanced.
>tomislav gutted
Either you don't play heavy or have never met one who can aim with stock minigun. Tomislav can be pushed as the best minigun but that's hardly truth.
>scorch shot deleted
It's fine as it is I'd say. Flick aim and you'll recover from its juggle. Also removing it simply removing the main harassment risk on top of snipers and no one wants that.
>sniper ammo count nerf
You just make them stick to dispensers and sentry nests more often, rest will be same. I just want them to get tracer ammo or a focused beam of laser when charging the shot over a threshold
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*spreads (Your) ass*
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>>483750563
I'd let it stay at 100 but halve the eating time so it can have a use as a quick heal item
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>>483750620
>one of them tried to hang xirself over the ban wave
Holy shit bros its over for them
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A BOTHOSTER JUST FLEW OVER MY HOUSE
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>>483750620
>>483750991
You guys kidding, right?
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>>483751098
Just check his twitter for yourself
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>stonetoss pfp and that "i will protect lesbians" pfp in the same group
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>>483751165
ZAMN, Konata.tf looks like that?
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>bots get banned
>tf2 drops from top of the charts
lmoa
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>>483750941
unless you make it instant you will still have to get behind cover in order to consume it without being instaraped because you stood out in the open as heavy for 0.5 seconds without firing. so this change isnt as powerful as one might think at first glance and the banana is still better because 200 healing >>> 100 healing any day. what good is that extra 50 health if you never get to max health because you cant heal for shit?
oh and also heavy is already easy enough and the consumption of lunchbox items being risky and requiring you to retreat into a safer position is like as high as the skill ceiling of those items gets (not that its hard to pull off because healing in 4 seconds if still fast). remove that and you somehow make a... 0 thought crutch lunchbox item
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Erm, Russianbros? I think we lost...
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>>483749172
look at those milkers
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me right now
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Maybe Gaben took Gabber’s advice and ordered a Ukrainian drone stroke on omegatroonic
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>cheat a single time seven years ago because i was salty
>see that bots are getting banned
>shit my pants and run to check if my acc is fine
>intact
that was close!
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gay porn... won......
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stay safe out there!
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>>483747041
I’m already on the list and nothing has happened.
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>>483751495
91,084 players right now doe
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the dragons fury is useless, do not listen to anyone that shills it
>enormous, bright projectile that flashbangs you every time you shoot
>inconsistent firerate constantly throwing off your tracking
>miss once and you cant fire for 2-3 business days
>airblast once and you cant fire for 2-3 business days
>sometimes the damage bonus applies, sometimes it doesnt, meaning the damage fluctuates between 75 and 25. so much for consistency
>range is this awkward middle-ground between the flamethrower (dogshit) and everything else (good shit). still not enough to approach any power class
>pyro has to go through this whole rigamarole, only for soldier to outdamage him by shooting the floor
CONCLUSION: the dragons fury is an overcomplicated piece of shit that exists to make pyro LOOK good, but not ACTUALLY good. just play direct hit soldier
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3 NIGAS
ON CART
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Russians must be massacred
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>>483751984
Easy there Zelensky
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konata would be better if the admin wasnt such a massive sperg around votes
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>>483748760
Thanks Kal
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>>483747754
You missed some stuff buddy
>Phlog no longer builds mmph with any flares
>Kunai health hard capped at 300
>Vaccinator adjusted so things like arrows no longer count as bullet damage
>Sandman can stun again
>Revert most degreaser nerfs to allow the "w+m1 is brainless" and the "combo play is brainless" fags to fight it out
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Zelensky just saved tf2. Gaben called in a favor and Zelensky responded with a drone strike directed at Omegatronic and his goons. To the last Russian.
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>>483752298
Based...
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>>483747754
>kunai left as it is
please and thanks
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>>483752298
Slava Ukraini. I'm sorry I ever made fun of him...
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How do we make the Spy play more like a spy?
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cool car
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>>483752352
Kunai isnt broken
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>>483752480
give him a M249
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>>483751098
You can literally just check his twitter to see all the bot host seethe, and some amount of suicidally malding ones
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>>483752480
Sapper replacement that lets him place down a spy camera
At any time you can look at the spy camera's PoV from a little screen (but spy gets locked in place while he's looking at it)
Now the Spy can spy
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Why do people bitch about the kunai and diamondback and how they punish you for the incompetence of your teammates but never complain about the frontier justice when it has the exact same “problem”
Your team’s dumbass scout or demoknight just charged forward and died to the engineers sentry and now his gun is glowing and you die. How is this more fair than the spy getting crits or overheal because he took advantage of your team’s clueless Heavy?
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>>483752679
That sounds cool but is utterly useless unless it's like a Splinter Cell spy cam and you can use it to spray sleeping gas
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>>483748760
>majorly disruptive activity
You know they aren't fucking around when they use formal language like this. Valve is going to eviscerate and humiliate the bot hosters.
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2/9 defeated so far
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>>483752873
for lack of a better word, cringe
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>>483752603
i know
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>1 month of #fixtf2
>nothing
>ayo gabe airstrike dose fucks
>total bothoster death
how does gabber do it?
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>>483752969
>it's cringe to make fun of bot hoster faggots getting booted
>why? it just is ok
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>>483752686
because
1. engineer cant traverse any part of the map via invisibility. hes more predictable than a spy showing up beside you, raping your teammate, and then shooting you
2. engineer doesnt have 210 health
3. shotguns have limited range. crits certainly help but hes not gonna be doing any serious damage outside of close-mid range
4. frontier justice has an actual downside, and so players see it in a better light since it isnt just stock but better
5. engineer players suck at aiming
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>>483752740
Press M1 while looking through the camera to overload the camera and shoot an EMP pulse that disables nearby buildings and stuns players temporarily (this also makes it so he can still do something about buildings without the sapper)
Penalty could be that it also disables the camera or outright destroys it after it's used
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>>483753082
I'm all for those nerds to fuck off but why make a gay ass collage out of it lmao
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>>483752969
Shut up omegatroonic
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>>483752969
>for lack of a better word, cr-ACK
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>>483753378
I wish I was smoking crack
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>>483750697
Even if I have uber that doesn't mean shit. If you're not careful about the conditions of when you pop, your uber is going to be ineffectual and delay the game even more
Solo stock ubers don't do anything. Kritz ubers are a little more carefree when you pop but if all you do is kill enemies with no ground gained, you might as well not have popped. Quickfix ubers only work for team fights. Vaccinator ubers are le funny
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>grab dalokoh's bar
>equip Natascha or Brass Beast if you like
>pigeonhole small health kits
>once fight becomes hectic move to bigger health kit areas to camp them
>when fight becomes overwhelming, move back to smaller health kit areas
That's the point of Dalokoh's, you swipe health kits. So you can use increased max health to push this threshold and gain around 25% endurance boost (5/4) when revved up and under 50% health. Dalokoh's give you 350 max health, half of this is 175. When you add 20% damage reduction to it when revved up minigun, your potential effective health becomes 175/0.8 = 218 at best. Having around 200 health gives you enough time to jump back and rev up your minigun again for burst firing if you are getting focus fired on low health.
Don't do that when you have BB though as it is really slow to fully rev again. This is why I think it's better to pair dalokoh's with Natascha. BB can pair Dalok only if you have a dedicated Medic sticking with you. Don't underestimate the 20% damage increase of BB.
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>>483753204
because they're all losers who think they have a moral high ground over people like daSHIT despite being the same and deserve to be pictured at the same level
i also included SHITnic because he tried to spread a learned helplessness mindset against the movement
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blessed
viva
is
live
https://www.twitch.tv/blessedviva
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>>483752480
TRVTHNVKE:
spy shouldve gotten more tools for trickery instead of a fuck ton of revolvers he never needed. oh and the spycicle shouldnt exist either since its incredibly boring, and the kunai shouldnt exist for obvious reasons.
think, why has every spy resorted to: running around with a knife instead of sneaking around with a knife, using a scout disguise to displace hitboxes and slightly delay your reaction instead of to blend in properly, using the dead ringer as a fucking speed boost + damage resistance instead of as a way to feign death?
its because spy is a one trick pony that has gotten more and more useless as time went on. and instead of combating that by adding to spys abilities, thus making him more unpredictable and varied, valve gave him a fucking million weapons that helps him do what hes been doing since 2007 and what we are all very very used to by now
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i
am
live
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>>483753670
doctor you just need to believe in me one time
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>>483753718
aka: posted a video which discussed possible solutions and gave his positive opinion on some and negative on others while doing an analysis
not everything he said was right but putting him on your gay little image is retarded
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>>483753860
Preceding your own opinions with "truthnuke" is retarded and gay. Did not read.
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>>483753858
no thanks/not interested
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>>483753083
The core principle of “I shouldn’t be punished for the incompetence of my teammates” seems to be the main reason why people bitch about the kunai and diamondback, when this same logic also applies to the frontier justice (and also to the bazaar bargain) but no one complains about the latter weapons.
It comes across as hypocritical complaining about spy’s powerful kunai and diamondback when other classes such as the engineer and sniper have weapons that can snowball off of your inferior teammates and punish you for their incompetence.
I think the kunai, the diamondback, and the frontier justice are all perfectly fine though. Not the bazaar bargain because that’s a straight upgrade over stock in the hands of a skilled Sniper
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bagboy is streaming his grocery bagging
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What is the best roamer heavy loadout?
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>>483753954
Okay
*pops*
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>>483753591
We know, Weezy
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>>483752480
remove deadringer, kunai, and diamondback
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>>483753718
>daSHIT
>SHITnic

the fuck are you even talking about?
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>>483754043
The frontier justice is -3 shots in exchange for crits when your sentry dies. This require the engie to give up both his sentry (which can potentially have the side effect of fucking over the entire team) and half his mag size in exchange for crits. What does the spy give up for his crits?
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There's nothing wrong with spy or sniper. People who say otherwise are salty retards and scrubs.
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>>483751883
turns out one or two dedicated steam jannies can do a lot
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>>483752480
x2 capping speed

having the abilities to see enemy health and uber
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>>483752603
kys pedsty
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Why is it that the really good snipers don’t often use the bazaar bargain when it’s a straight upgrade in the hands of a skilled sniper who consistently lands headshots? Do they think it looks ugly? Is it a pride thing?
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>>483753978
>fixtf2: possible DISASTER?!
>yep, as it turns out there's a lot of possible solutions but there is only a 0.00000000001% chance any of them will actually work for longer than .1 seconds so there's no reason for valve to attempt it, there's no point in this
>his reaction to the bans probably: wth valve why are you wasting time banning bots?!? STOP THEY'RE JUST GOING TO MAKE MORE!!
cry about it doomer
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>>483754371
>having the abilities to see enemy health and uber
He can already see enemy health.
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>>483753681
>brass beast
this weapon has 0 appeal to me because not only is it ineffective against anyone that knows how to peak a corner, its also incredibly boring to use. i dont want to play as a sentry gun, i want to mow down people that are trying to run away from me as i slowly take hold over the area and turn it into a death zone
>the point of dalokohs is to swipe health kits
if that was the case it wouldnt heal at all. youre talking as if this playstyle that only exists because you need to compensate for the downright pathetic healing that the dalokohs provides is actually the intended experience. im not gonna waste my time constantly waddling to healthkits, im just gonna heal back to full after every fight with the banana. i dont think what im saying is even controversial because that is exactly why noone wants to use dalokohs
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>>483754434
His actual reaction was to instantly make a video titled "all the bots are gone"
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>>483754434
not what he said, watch the video

but that would mean you would stop getting (You)s whenever you post your little edit, wouldn't it? controversy is all you care about
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>>483751883
noooooo delete this the bot hosters are supposed to be gigabrain masterminds valve can't just ask a janny to right click on their account
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>>483751883
>rosne
>gruby
eurofags are so retarded, bet if they banned tf2 in evrope this bot shit would be solved in a matter of days
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>>483754084
TOO SOON TOO SOON
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>>483754378
>in the hands of a skilled sniper
There's your problem
It's only worth it if you're getting multiple headshot kills per life, you need at least 3 just to get the upside, then you actually have to use the weapon's upside to get kills
And if you're already that good at Sniper you'll just be going for quickscopes anyway
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Amerigods are actually good at the game and don’t need to rely on crutch cheats but Europeans and Russians have no morals which is why all of the bot hosters are European/Russian
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>I'll look down, and whisper, "Tf2 community, we hear you..."
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>>483752873
>all the pfps are cringe or trying to be le wholesome 100 chungus
they all should rope themselves honestly
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>Bot hosters legit think their is a valve spy in their discord
that is some cope they are on
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>>483754043
people complain about it because of the reasons i just listed above. they both do the same thing, one does it in a more annoying way.
it also depends on the circumstances in which theyre used. get killed by a frontier justice engineer after you take down his sentry (most common scenario)? at least hes fucked now without his sentry. get killed by a diamondback spy? that means he either killed your teammate in front of you and then shot you, which is aggravating, or he killed somebody, stored those crits, and pulled them out of his ass when you caught him, which is also aggravating
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>>483754968
I'm sorry for doubting you Eric-sama
May your cookies be large and plentiful
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>>483740093
>>483617424
>RDT_20240626_1728082418745294183492442.png
What kind of fucking filename is that?
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>>483754339
Considering there was 0(zero) effort put on the botfags' part to stay hidden(quite the opposite if anything) that's hardly a surprise
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Reminder that bot hosters live paycheck to paycheck to maintain bots
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>>483754378
sniper is OP enough without a direct upgrade
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Seeing that they now appear to actually be doing something, do you think there will be changes in the summer update to deal with bots?
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>>483754883
>Be UK player
>Constantly get games on Frankfurt/Stockholm servers
>Most of the players at any time are East-European
>Tons of sniggers and kunai cunts everywhere
>Join community server
>Full of AmeriGODS
>Actually funny and intelligent people on voice chat for once

it really is like that
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>>483755512
Probably only minor fixes like disabling textmode or disabling the 32 bit client they were all using
I wouldn't expect a major fix for a long time (assuming they will actually do something about it long-term, I can't imagine they started until now)
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>>483752480
more knives, balance it out, at least he would be more fun to play rather than just doing the typical "kunai dr diamond" combo everyone else does cause its the only playable style for this dogshit class
maybe add more tools, sapper is fine but i feel like actual spies would use other shit to fuck with the enemies and make them actually paranoid
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diamondback shouldnt exist. its an ugly artstyle breaking deus ex promo weapon that adds nothing to the game.
machina shouldnt exist. its an ugly artstyle breaking deus ex promo weapon.
sun on a stick shouldnt exist. its an ugly rift promo weapon, and a stupid weapon for scout to have, since he has no way to set people on fire. and if it set people on fire on hit? now its just the boston basher
the sharpened volcano fragment shouldve been the axtinguisher reskin instead and the postal pummeler shouldnt exist
mannmelter shouldnt exist, it was only added because laser gun = cool, lets give a grordbort weapon to pyro. it has no place in pyros arsenal as every other flare gun fills out every other possible role for a flare gun
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>>483755707
the hallucination grenade from tfc WAS KINO. still cant believe they managed to implement SCHIZOHPRENIA in a multiplayer game that was made in 1999. also cant believe how they chose to bring back feigning from tfc in the form of dr (ew) instead of that grenade
imagine spy having that in tf2, would be hilarious
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>>483754073
nobody knows cause nobody mains heavy
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>>483752480
Nerf Kunai, give it slower decloak or overheal decaying faster when cloaked. Make Diamondback only gain crit from sapped buildings but backstabs increasing its cylinder size.

>>483754073
I'd say shotgun or banana has the greatest impact. Dalok is for camping health kits near your sentry nests and slowly take over as your team moves, require specific miniguns to make the best of increased max health.

>>483754513
>ineffective against anyone that knows how to peak a corner
When you anticipate this, forward jump and rev up BB again. It's also best to pair it with shotguns instead of lunchboxes so you don't get caught in slow motion whenever a soldier harasses you from a rear angle or your six. If you don't want to use shotgun then you'll inevitably suffer because that's how slow to rev BB is. This is why I don't suggest using BB with Dalok.
>if that was the case it wouldnt heal at all.
If you have a medic you can be more mobile at least with Natascha. You may scoff at 50 max health but it can save you from a burst damage when you don't have a medic. If you watch your team to move and swipe health kits, they'll scram back to their dispenser for health.

If you can use Banana and be the hero nothing stops you but sometimes the effort required to break the resistance of enemy team doesn't worth it. Also yes, you can be mobile with Banana too with no problems whatsoever. Dalok require you to move with the team.
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>>483755518
>>483754883
it actually really is like that, whenever I've played on american servers (casual or comm) it was 10x more healthier than the eurofag servers, it fucking sucks living in the middle of EU, at least community servers still exist, although i dont go there very often
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diamondback
>guaranteed crits removed
>now mini-crits from the back
no longer a noob farming crutch and instead useful for hitting targets you're chasing out of reach or razorback snipers

deadringer
>now slowly drains cloak while holding out, needs full cloak to start holding out
>initial damage reduction scales down with cloak missing on activation
>damage resistance and speed buff removed if you end cloak early
now a timing based decoy instead of a passive get out of jail free crutch that turns you into a super soldier

kunai
>overheal removed
>+25% increased swing speed
>health penalty reduced to -25
now makes you a bit more durable during chain stabs instead of turning you into a super soldier
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>>>/v/263823416
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>>483756335
you see cheaters fairly often on EU but the people on US servers are generally worse imo
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>>483755957
>forward jump and rev up again
stock does this a million times better. ill do jump revving with stock or tomi
>pair bb with shotgun
actual meme. you will take a gajillion damage when using the bb because you cant move and you cant bail on a fight at all. you need healing the most with this weapon.
>more mobile with natascha
what? if anything the natascha is more sluggish than stock. its just a weapon for shitters that cant hit scouts. use tomi if you really wanna run around
>if you do this and do that, then the dalokohs is about half as good as the sandvich or banana
how about i dont go through a million hoops and i just eat the banana. i dont want to constantly compensate for a shit weapon being shit, especially since its not even a fun weapon as all lunchbox items are identical in use
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>>483752480
Give Spy Sneakers primary:
>+100% movement speed
>removes revolver
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>>483754742
*killsbind*
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>>483755518
Why are eastern Europeans so bad gamers? it's like they are the living embodiment of those keyboard-breaking toxic gamers.
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>>483756484
>diamondback
useless because knife exists
>dead ringer
good ideas. not sure about needing full cloak to even hold it out, as that not only kills the kunai + dr playstyle but also kinda kills it in regular use and makes it really shit. just make it need more than half cloak to hold out, since half of it is drained upon activation
>kunai
honestly pretty good, although no overheal may make this thing a shittier version of the big earner. keep the overheal, just make it max out at 150 (default overheal for a 100 health spy)
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>>483756891
*blocks your path*
>>483756997
Because they live in shitholes
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>>483756643
>We removed the tos violation from your primary account
fucking why doe? these people deserve to walk the plank on gabes yacht or smth why would you only give them a game ban?
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>>483756595
Fail
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>>483757106
>useless because knife exists
>useful for hitting targets you're chasing out of reach or razorback snipers
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>>483757148
the plank reminds them of a treadmill
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>cs2 and l4d2 both got updates today
update later tonight maybe, conveniently during the debate everyone will be busy watching.
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reminder that rosne and mechinator are pedophiles
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>>483757964
What about omegatronic?
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>>483756793
Well I can't say anything but mostly agree.
>actual meme
Nah give it a try. Take my word for it, initiate with shotgun and tap short burst fire with BB at long distances. It's hard but fun.
>use tomi if you really wanna run around
Tomi doesn't give you 20% damage mitigation at half health threshold. I know Nata worse than stock but it's the best of the worst minigun to make use of increased max health from Dalokoh's.
Toss in FoS to bait them and any chump that dares to go closer would be sorry that they did it because they'll be slowed down to a snail's pace.
>how about i dont go through a million hoops and i just eat the banana
I ain't gonna try to pitch you idea of how superior Natascha or Dalokoh's are. Each of them have their own use. Dalok's is for slowing the rush of enemy down when you fail to locate and destroy the teleporter by swiping health kits. It can work if you managed to flush their engineers to one spot.
I personally pretty much like Natascha at defense more than Tomislav. For a more direct approach demolishing everything with tomislav or stock is the solution most of the time and I won't deny that.
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>>483758154
pedophile
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>>483754378
Because they value the consistency of stock.
Top tier snipers don't really tend to charge their shots much, and when they do, the stock sniper rifle is fast enough.
Futhermore, when they do charge their shots, they prefer to have the muscle memory of how long to charge for each damage threshold compared to the bazaars variable one.
Also it's nice to just be able to spawn in and do what you have to, rather than spawn in at a disadvantage and then play passively to not lose your heads.
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>>483755021
Spy among us...
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>>483754378
it doesn't matter how good you are at sniper, it only takes one decent soldier deciding to bomb you to end your streak
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>just found out there's an organized discord of people who spend hundreds of real-world money to annoy people in a shooting video game
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>>483750757
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sXlCm1jfJac
>this guy and FishStickOnAStick made a 2-hour response video to this
None of the balance changes are actually crazy. Some of them are silly but not any worse than other rebalance videos.
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>>483759081
So true! I think sniper actually needs a shield has does 70% explosive resistance to make him a little more balanced
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>join frontier casual
>go medic
>some retard faggots cries in vc that he called for medic 4 times and i wasnt there
>i was dead and also i heal everyone and not just pocket one faggot
>he cries for like 10 minutes before someone kicks him out for being a yapper and complainer
fuckers like these make me not want to play medic but at the same time justice is there for that too...next time every medic complainer should go medic themselves and then maybe they'll learn
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>try out botfree casual
>two noobs using the parachute
>two heavies crouchrevved on last getting obliterated by my kritzed soldier, for both rounds

tf2 is healing..we need to re-spread gibuses guys
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2eIWkW0djYY
Honestly getting kinda tired that all these spyfrag videos are done with the Kunai. Let's see them do it with any other knife instead if they're so good at Spy
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>>483759882
sounds like you're mad they're better than you?
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>>483759882
Stabby has been revealed to be a whiny manbaby that quits the game anytime the enemy team isn't composed of 90% pablogonzalez.2014

they're genuinely not good at spy, at all. they literally just wm1 retards that try to melee the kunai spy
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>>483759969
No? They just always use the kunai, which is easy to farm kills off of. Would be nice if they threw in some clips with other knives since you can't keep replenishing your health
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>>483760016
Every kunainigger is like this. Enemy team isn't completely composed of walking health packs? Better find a new server!
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>>483752969
HosterGroomer let his own- ACK! get the best of him.
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What’s with the current 90k peak? Are people coming back?
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>>483752873
my nigga shounic ain't done nothing wrong but be pessimistic.
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>>483760381
>people
bots coming back online
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>>483760417
It's okay when Zesty does it though!!
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>>483751883
TF?
hosters lost to a janny?
they lost to a fucking janny
jesuschrist
thats depresing; they need to take the kurt kobain medicine already
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>>483760381
Lol no
https://teamwork.tf/community/statistics
Only 11k are actually humans playing the game. Rest are bots booting up for summer crate drops
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>>483759719
Lmao, EU? I was in that round too
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>>483760506
no zesty is also a pessimistic wet blanket, he's also a weeabo ped.
Does it mean I'm going to target him like a bothoster? no.
nypa anon
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>>483760381
>>483760658
HAHAHAHAHAHAHA
Of saddest words of tongue and pen, the saddest are these. Shounic was right again
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>>483760739
yeah EU, it's so dogshit, i try to help everyone and all i get is complaints and getting yelled at
honestly all of this reminds me of that video
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BTPtUiMsP3Q
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>>483760658
Cope, tranny
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>>483760658
>Rest are bots booting up for summer crate drops
so the idle bots are booting up for their idle servers
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>>483759882
>spy frag video
>always done against hatless clueless fresh installs while running the ugliest config known to man
boring ass videos.
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>>483759882
Stabby used to be pretty good back then when he played competitive in 2013
I mostly blame spies becoming so bad lately on them becoming too dependant on the kunai +hp on kill and completely disregarding all the other knife options
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>>483760381
>"""""""people"""""""
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>>483761091
>>483760016
whoops
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>>483761081
>lowest graphic settings
>interp abuse
>kunai + dead ringer

Spy fags really do be playing like this.
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>>483760936
Don't let I get to you, and dont play medic if yo know you'll feel like shit. It's not worth it
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>>483761081
What happens when someone points this out in Youtube comments?
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>EU player
>join US server
>immediately party of 5 femboy players
hmmm
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>>483761025
>no there's 80,000 humans afking on the main menu okay??? it's completely normal for 8/9 of players to not play the game okay???
are you sure you're not the one coping?
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>>483761465
>play tf2c
>join eu server
>everyone is normal
>join na server
>all tranny fagboys spamming vc
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Ubering a wrangler engineer sounds like a funny idea 2bh.
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>>483740093
based
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>>483761205
its sad, i used to look up to the guy but I don't think the man knows how to be stealthy without 500+ cumulative free health packs running around on the enemy team
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>>483761793
EU troons are contained in Uncletopia servers
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>>483761441
people dont play spy enough to realize how this playstyle depends on having retards on the enemy team
people who don't play tf2 watch these videos
comments pointing this out probably get deleted or people don't bother to comment because its pointless
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>watch one of those dumb shpee frag videos
>now my fucking recommended videos are full of "what 7000 hours on spy looks like" "what 5000 hours experience in spy looks like"
>click a few to take a peek
>ALL of them are SiN videos
>and no exception, ALL. OF. THEM. using Kunai-Deadringer
Dude everyone shits on swipez, stary, klown but at least those guys can shit on you with any loadout instead of abusing cheap ass mechanics. Nobody told SiN what skill looks like or he doesn't care as long as he got slop to get views on channel for sponsors?
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the yearly valve work session must have been tiring
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>>483762687
And now they're back to working on Deadlock, hopefully this ban wave was worth the wait, thanks and have fun
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>>483762664
>Nobody told SiN what skill looks like

100% of SiN videos are some dude with a pocket medic shoved up his ass or kunai DR, yeh.
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>>483762687
>WHAT DID IT MISS?
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https://twitter.com/Thewhat89/status/1806419335252234305
Signatures close on July 1st and they're allegedly going to Valve in August
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>>483762664
i feel pretty good at myself for learning how to top score as spy with stock knife + invis watch. even someone on the enemy team complimented me about it once which has never happened with any other class
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>>483763148
stock spy is fair
no snowball tactics, just pure mindgames and aim
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>>483761029
Shounic is actually a fat Asian male there is zero things sexy with shounic's avatar. Vomit viscerally forces its way up my throat any time I think of shounic in thigh highs
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>>483763103
We never abandoned it, and there's been unfortunate revelations we can't relay to the public.

Weezy overdosed adderall
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>>483763103
How's this going to go down?
>please remove the bots!!!!
>valve: we just did bro

ummm.... awkward!!!
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>>483763103
>1 month of nothingburger with an extra side of empty sauce and large stale dries instead of rushing valve before the bummer update of 2024
idiots
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>reddit celebrating because a cheat provider nobody uses anymore got a letter amounting to "Please stop it"
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>>483754073
tomi + banana + gru/fos
tomi + family business + kgb
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>>483763103
Are they really fucking hellbent on swiping some credit for their shoddily made movement? They were too busy getting high and cashing TF2 items to care about this shit. And now, they look like they had no fucking impact on Valve's banwave. Bravo. Valve has beaten you to it but you're free to spend money on summer cases until you head to Valve. You think you can rally your bot hoster friends to attack again to not look like complete jokes?
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>>483751302
me on the left
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>>483763103
>in August
A fucking anon from /tf2g/ managed to go spend a whole fucking day in front of Valve in a matter of DAYS after this shit started and these tubers want people to wait a MONTH?
What is even their excuse, does Weezy need the time to sober up from his Adderall sniffs?
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>>483763857
well THAT just happened...
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>>483760381
They never left nigga, pay attention to what's transpired today
Valve is banning cheaters which are a minority, not farming bots because those make them money
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>>483764530
>and these tubers want people to wait a MONTH?
They want bot hosters to recover and attack again until that time. Simple.
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>>483763103
august 2025
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>>483764530
That would also mean 2 months at least since the protest started
It's quite baffling, they all live in the US so it's a domestic flight and for a short stay, I've unironically organized longer international trips with friends in a fraction of the time
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>>483742138
Real but people should not be celebrating... yet. Its a step in the right direction- a single step on the treadmill but the bots will be back. We need to keep pressure on valve so they keep banning. I'm glad they were banned don't get me wrong but its meaningless if valve goes right back to ignoring the problem.
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>>483763103
werent they waiting for valve to release summer update? what if valve doesnt release it by early august????
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>>483763857
Even if it's a complete waste they'll still get footage for their epic "We went to Valve" video
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i hope the next bots are "skibidi biden" and play the skibidi biden song
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>needs his paycheck to pay a hundred bucks
rofl
these are 200IQ masterminds with unlimited resources btw
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>>483765595
Hope Valve bans them in 5 minutes and their money is stolen lol
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>>483761664
>>483760658
>teamwork.tf is infallible! e-even though they don't disclose how they obtain their info... or why they can't accurately track every server because of "technical problems"... but it furthers my agenda so that means it's more accurate!!
neck yourself
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>banned
>Steam support just gives me an automated response of "You deserved it"
Fuck this piece of shit company, I'm going back to Overwatch.
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>>483765595
where did these get leaked?
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>>483742138
Its very real but idk if it will stick. They mostly got manually banned too which isnt much a suprise cause they werent really hiding it so im giving them 3 weeks to see what happens cause that was the amount of time it took for bots to come back when x64 update happened
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>>483765749
post it
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tUR1-QkwnjE
>Gabber when confronted about his opinions on TF2 (he's always right)
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>>483765595
Valve can do the funniest thing and wait until everyone buys more premium accounts then immediately ban them when they get set up
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>>483742138
as long as one steam janny keeps banning them, it's real
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Explain in simple language to me: Why 1 Valve volunteer banning people once per day would not work.
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>>483765595
>>483765979
in other words, valve can make money by banning bots.
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>Erdick
Too busy eating cookies at the snack bar to do anything
>Joshe/them
Too busy figuring out what gender xe is
>KALGOD
Actually banning bot hosters on a janny's pay
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>ban russians from buying premium accounts
>#tf2 is #saved
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what is kal
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Baby don't hurt me
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>>483766165
because they dont hire interns or minimum wage workers so while they are 100% qualified to do so the are little to no incentive
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Looking forward to Valve doing every single other thing shounic said they wouldn't do in his video
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>>483766185
>valve only cares about money
>banning people faster = more money

tf2... is fixed...
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>>483766570
>>483748760
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>next month
>bot hoster gets premium TF2 on their alt accounts from salary
>weezy gets their monthly receipt for adderall boxes
>bots start infesting servers again
>TF2bers fly to Valve and say "we saved tf2" in a video
>Weezy wasn't in the picture because he blacked out in the background as everyone poses for the shot
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>>483766773
oh i see thank you
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>>483766541
erm and prevent vorobay from playing on alts for Reason X? <No Thank You>
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>cheat software also detects other cheaters as one of its many features
>said software is completely free and easy to access
How hard would it be to set up a bot that walks around the map with the cheats on and puts every cheater he sees on a list?
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Next time Zesty is live, somebody ask him if it's okay to buy keys now. His rage will be funny.
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>>483767159
not at all, except lmaobox hasnt updated in almost 4 years and that functionality is trivial to spoof
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>>483765595
didn't realize that bleeding these guys out of their money was even an option
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>>483767293
ok but unless you tell everyone, nobody's gonna know
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>NOOOO MY BOT ARMY IS GONE AND SERVERS DYING
>QUICK PLAN B GASLIGHT EVERYONE INTO THINKING VALVE SERVERS ARE STILL SHIT
Get fucked community troons you aren't ruling anyone anymore
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>tyler mcvicker gets married to his beautiful autistic wife on the same day valve actually saves tf2
we're all gonna make it bros
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>>483767397
>still has an endless buffet of underage children to groom
Uncle Dane won.
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>>483767389
too late bro you posted it on 4chin
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>>483767491
>Tyler is getting married while Zesty is still a virgin at almost 30
Tyler won
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>>483760016
that's literally every "good" spytroon
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small dick gesture taunt will be included in the summer update
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>>483759882
>starts video being dominated by a f2p pyro
lmoa
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Ok valve
Now work on CS's cheater problem please
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>>483767749
Hes just like me fr fr
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>>483767749
Tyler doesn't insist on saving himself for a 7 foot tall muscle girl
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>>483768065
that would seriously damage the competitive scene where big cash is involved so no
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>>483768065
sorry Erics clone cirE that works on CS2 is eating his 50th lunch also
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>>483767749
It's Tyler, it's very likely he's lying about getting married
I'll wait until a more credible source confirms that
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>>483765595
>the multibillion company could infact win in a cat and mouse game by doing treadmill work once or twice
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>>483765595
captchas........ won't work............. the botters.................. they're too powerful...................
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The only good Spy tf2ber was unironically Mr. Paladin
>Chill dude
>Doesn't blast anime and weeb shit
>Uses regular settings
>Plays around with all of Spy's weapons
>Quit to spend more time with his family and kids since he's actually a family man and not a terminally online permavirgin gooning to anime girls
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>>483767749
>Tyler won
Well. Guess he did.
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>>483768395
You left out
>plays on two sections of 1 map, ambushing children who are barely aware of how the game works
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>>483768234
Esports have done unimaginable damage to gaming
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>tyler got a gf
>chibi got a gf
>chris chan got a gf
>anon still single
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this game is unplayable
too many autists, mentally deranged coomers, trannies and faggots to bear with it
i'm jumping off the wagon, had a somewhat ok ride but enough is enough
maybe i will go back to it in 10 years
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>>483768637
chibidoki?
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>>483767375
It not only always was but its probably one of the best effort to effect ratio ways of getting rid of mass cheaters
A price tag cant stop cheat development but it can give cheaters more reason to be careful and avoidant, therefore making mass cheating not worth the squeeze
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I don't get kunai complaints. Spy is still a shit class regardless. I'm pretty sure the majority of classes can fuck on him after you realize he's playing to make frag videos
>scout can FAN to fuck him out of a DR decloak stab, milk after he DRs, he's running around anyway and should keep an eye out for shape-shifting rats
>soldier can shoot feet, in a pinch the whip can kill the shit out of him before he gets a stab on you
>pyro m2 into shotgun like you're doing a pro skater combo
>demo loose cannon, stickies, shields can bash spy away, longer melee if you're knight
>heavy, you're in for a bad time, that one's fair enough to be annoyed about, but it's just the nature of the game
>engineer, shoot people that look suspicious near your shit. Unless you're in the middle of a move or something you're going to be in a pretty relaxed spot to look out for random weeaboos
>medic, yeah you're gonna get annoyed. Try to roll for a random crit
>sniper, can always equip razorback and get good at quick scopes
>spy, enforcer can hilariously delete the fuck out of a DR Kunai spy if you predict where he's going with the feign
People just don't know how to deal with him, don't back pedal if he's coming, strafe and blow his fucking head off. Frankly I'm more terrified by a good big earner spy since that messes with my muscle memory
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>>483768792
>t. faggyfag
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>>483767749
The virgin
>I-I have an anime girl and bionicles collection...a-a-also I like rocks and buff women...
vs.
The CHAD
>If you're a woman, hello! *gets dick sucked immediately*
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>>483768792
they just dont play spy, they have no idea how hard it actually is
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>>483768321
He's literally streaming with his wife to be right now, his childhood sweetheart too.
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>>483765595
Reminder that shounic said Valve can't just hardware ban bots because bot hosters can definitely afford buying a 15$ raspberry pi for each of their accounts in addition to premium every time they get banned
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>>483767749
BREAKING NEWS: Autist who has buff women fetish with anime figures on his shelves can't find a woman, the audience is in shock (not really)
he will die a virgin and outside of tf2 he won't find a good audience
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>>483752480
grappling hook that lets him climb up ledges so he can take alternate routes
should be slow so it can't be abused, but it would go a long way towards letting him get behind enemy lines undetected
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>>483768637
don't be mean to me
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>>483769239
>buff women fetish
well for one, having shit tastes was his first mistake
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>>483768637
>chris chan got a gf
didn't xe detransform
how the fuck did xe find a gf
either she's super unaware of xis actions or she's retarded enough to not care and is only with xim because desperation
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>>483768637
Your mother doesn't count as a gf
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>>483754324
it was decent
nothing too great but not terrible
overall I enjoyed it
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>>483769538
he doesn't have one, spergs just think being seen with a woman twice means she's his girlfriend
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>calls himself "jesus" because he knows he'll die a virgin
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>>483768965
Try to type it without crying, gay boy
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>>483769884
Its actually because he plans to die for your sins
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483770057
cope trannytran
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clearly the economics of idle bots and disruption bots is fundamentally different but how do invisible hand fags explain valve not doing shit for 8+ years
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Imagine making a game with these jokes in the year 2024
twitter trannys will harass you until your wife leaves you, your job fires you, and your kids hate you
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>>483732945
How could you forget him containing his laughter from seeing a Heavy in the freezecam dressed as a tranny
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>>483770712
holy based. i wonder what colour the man my wife would leave me for would be?
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>>483770313
It's called a promo, kid. If you want to not look like a faggot you're gonna need to learn how to do them
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>>483770712
>Half of the domination lines targeted towards Pyro make fun that he might be a woman (erm...misogyny much?)
>Engi saying sissy as an insult
>Soldier making fun of people for their nationalities
>Other languages being even more crude with Sniper calling Spy a faggot
There's a lot more bu it's funny they just choose to ignore this stuff and pretend that these mercenaries from the 1960s would TOTALLY support trans rights
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>>483771305
Trve. Scout would say faggot if he saw a tranny in-real life.
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>>483770712
Bros how did they get away with this line...
https://vocaroo.com/1a0OPU5tmXV1
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483771227
cope trannyfag
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>>483769413
I dunno man, for me, it's the thought of fucking a buff woman, knocking them up and listening to them complain for multiple months about how fat they're getting as they carry a baby and then doing it again before they can work out and lose the pregnancy weight
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>>483770712
rent free
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>>483768792
it's not impossible to kill him if you know what you're doing, it's just really fucking annoying to deal with someone who can gain soldier's health by clicking on the back of one of your clueless teammates and who can gain a massive speed boost by right clicking and taking damage.
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>>483766570
KAL
Kill All Londoners
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>>483771305
>>Other languages being even more crude with Sniper calling Spy a faggot
which language? based if true.
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>>483771305
>implying the sociopathic surgeon with a love for putting unusual organs into bodies and who had a grand time at forcing a man to give birth wouldnt be supportive of trans right(so he'd get a wave of free people to experiment on)
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>>483748760
what did the bot hoster think would happen
>oh sorry cheatbot104 has been reinstated, our bad won't happen again
he should be thankful kal even gave his main a second chance outside tf2
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>>483772264
https://wiki.teamfortress.com/w/images/3/38/Sniper_revenge03_de.wav
He calls him an "arrogant little faggot"
I think he also says faggot in Russian but I'm not sure
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>>483772417
medic giving me a pussy...
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>>483772748
sure, he'll give you a pussy, but now you also have 5 hearts, a stink gland, and one of your femurs is missing
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>>483772916
eh, no such thing as a free lunch
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Medic lost his medical license so he technically can't operate an ambulance anymore.
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>>483747125
uncomfy
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>>483772417
honestly he probably would turn people in women WITHOUT their consent.
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>>483773270
I bet he would turn Miss Pauling into a woman if you know what I mean.
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>>483740093
>Bot hosters are getting community banned
so this means you guys will stop posting about zesty right?
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>>483773642
but zesty is covering it right now...
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>>483773165
Oh yeah? Explain THIS
https://wiki.teamfortress.com/wiki/Mannbulance!
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>>483772417
if he found out your trans he'd treat you more like a lab rat than a human. prepare to get horse pussy'd and never be able to have normal sex again
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>>483773814
it's legally registered as a go-kart
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I need help figuring out what goes in the empty spots for my stream bingo
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https://files.catbox.moe/4utecj.mp4
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>>483773165
you think the guy breaking patience ribs and inserting baboon uteruses in people cares about what he legally can drive?
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>>483774364
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>>483773270
children and crazy/brainwashed people can't really consent to these things so that's more or less just standard practice. medic was born too early or too late. he wouldn't lose his medical license today or in weimar times
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>>483774364
>everyone shits on ow for plastering colors everywhere
>everyone praises elden ring for its simple ui
>valve pulls this out of their ass now
how the fuck is it so hard for devs to take a hint?
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>>483774564
>>483774907
https://files.catbox.moe/sauwij.mp4
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>>483772417
>>483773270
Not only would Medic turn men into women but his deal with Satan would allow him to do it on a chromosome, skeletal, sinew density and DNA level using nothing but a jar of Sniper's piss and some rusty Mann Co. brand sewing equipment.
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if there's a second ban wave when the bots come back i think i will come back to tf2
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>>483774319
Friendly complains about getting killed
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>>483774364
so this incomprehensible shit happens to you and then you have to twiddle your thumbs for 50 seconds? cool game icefrog
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>>483775247
Mr President, and 2nd banwave has hit the towers
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This is all thanks to sign anon btw
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>>483773270
>>483775081
Pyro was a man when he enlisted, after his examination he looks like this
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>>483775571
Stolen valor, it's fucking Weezy we should praise he started this
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>>483775845
god i wish that were me
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now we just need ze_santassination in the casual queue and tf2 will be #fixed
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>>483774364
just how much is valve paying /v/ to shill this
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>>483773790
fuck you
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>>483776027
>casual fix
Gamebanana ban him he's posting exploits!!
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>>483772916
sounds alright to me
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>>483774970
>Dude walks into a battle
>Hits one button
>Walks away
>Somehow kills the entire enemy team
Yep its a moba alright. Fucking lame.
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Deadlock won.
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I can't wait for "Tf2 is dead!!!!" to be back next week when there's no weapon balances.
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>>483776357
That's just what happens with random crits on explosive classes though
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>>483776357
reminds me of one of the versions of the tf2 mario kart map where theres a capture point in the sky that kills everyone on the server if its capped
i figured out how to get there with a low gravity plugin and kept switching teams to repeatedly kill everyone
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>>483776357
You thought sniperbots were bad already, imagine if someone botted THAT
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>>483742717
fedpost
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*saves tf2 by threatening adderall overdose suicide*
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Which presidential candidate would the mercs vote for?
Engi and Soldier would vote Trump 100%
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>>483775332
I'm just gonna keep that under the Friendlies square, to be honest. I figured out one more square in the meantime! Two more to fill out
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baldy jesus
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>>483777128
Should've booked a flight to Turkey instead of Hungary...
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>>483777128
KWABB
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>>483777053
>Biden
Heavy, Pyro, Demoman, Medic
>Trump
Soldier, Engineer
>3rd party
Sniper
>Doesn't vote
Scout, Spy
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>>483777053
>trump
Soldier
Engineer
Demoman
Heavy

>biden
Medic
Scout
Spy
Sniper
Pyro
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>>483777053
no they wouldnt because tf2 takes place in the 60s-70s
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This is all fake and gay, bots will be back before the end of the week and Valve go back to ignoring the problem again.
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>>483776070
skeleton divine death blast
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>>483777128
>Not even 30
>Already balding
Damn shame
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if weezy dies from overdose how many days will it take people to start renaming their overdose weapon to weezy jokes
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Zesty really turning into a late show host with new guests everyday
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totally something thats been in the works for 2 years and not just valve hiring some contractors to actually do moderation
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>>483778284
Just change the description
>A Weezy Circumstance
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>>483778354
>click stream
>autistically tries to analyze the steamchart
>close stream
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>>483778639
If it works, it works.
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>>483778729
He was just pointing out that shounic was a retard that thought the Tuesday maintenance drop were bots getting banned
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>>483778284
>man found dead from overdose in his room, surrounded by empty Adderall boxes, a computer running some sort of tower defense game and bananas
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>>483778639
it would be very convenient for this multi year project to just so happen to launch shortly after a second community movement
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We went from "KILL VALVE EMPLOYEES NO MERCY WE DEMAN ACTION" to "omg hecking wholesomerino Valve <3 was working on fixing the game all along uwu" in less than an hour
This fucking community is pathetic
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>>483778284
>>483779016
>can we kick this fucking soldier he is barely playing the game
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>>483779232
The Valve cycle continues...
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>>483779169
Maybe? They could've fast tracked the process, but Deadlock is still a thing. Either way, it's something, at last.
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>zesty calling out mastercoms
Uh oh...that's transphobic...
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>>483777915
While you're right, until it happens I'm going to enjoy the lack of them and appreciate them breathing life into community servers again, ones that aren't hosted by a faggot engie main, at least
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>>483777915
i'd try some of his wheat
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>>483779232
Abused wife behaviour, they're sucking Valve's cock right now even.
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>>483779232
>They actually did the thing we asked them for
>...
>WAAAAAAAHHHHHH THIS STILL ISN'T GOOD ENOUGH

Literal woman.
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>>483779481
>mastercoms stats aren't real because it just isn't
>but teamwork.tf is real ignore that one of the main devs on their about https://teamwork.tf/about is a youtuber that would benefit from "is tf2 dying!?" fearmongering
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>>483779892
So far mastercoms' claims haven't been backed up by any proof
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>>483777128
i wonder who is making all these posts about zesty's hairline, surely not hrt takers since that would be the only demographic who feels safe enough to make fun of someone for that
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>>483779640
Retard
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>>483767749
Who's Tylers soon to be husband?
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>>483778639
>Richter and Zesty weren't invited due to the risk of potential shitflinging on a discord server that might distract the movement from it's main goal (I agree that it's gay as fuck even if I understand it could've caused issues)
>They get sour grapes and use some of the few legitimate criticisms of the movement to just shit all over both the movement and the ecelebs involved in it
>Now they're coping because something actually happened and are now trying to imply that this was all just a pure coincidence and that saveTF2 and fixTF2 were both completely useless
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>>483779892
Zesty's estimate was backed up by the giftapults he sent.
Nothing is backing up mastercoms data because he has not made anything public. he's basically just doing a "dude trust me"
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>>483780252
TheWhatShow
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>>483780081
>surely not hrt takers
personally I dislike making fun of male baldness/balding
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>>483779640
They threw us a bone. A ban wave is the bare minimum and the bots will be back in a week. We need a long term solution, either assurance they will continue these banwaves long term, a return to quickplay, or a new anti-cheat. Valve still isn't even communicating.
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>>483780351
yeah, i mean that hrt takers are probably the only group of people who don't have to worry about balding as much as other men (besides biological females) so they don't feel as bad making fun of people for it
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>>483780695
I mean as an hrt taker I personally don't like people making fun of someone's balding
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>as an hrt taker
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>>483780921
well you seem to have an ounce of empathy so you're an exception
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>>483780695
Have you ever seen a mtf's hairline
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>>483781176
you are the tranny obsessed one you should know
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>>483781549
Are you going to answer my question or are you just going to keep grinding your teeth and regurgitating buzzwords?
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>>483780518
>muh quickplay
fucks sake man let it fucking go
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>>483781881
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>>483777128
My hairline is very similar to zesty's
It's called norwooding
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>>483782057
Dying full of regrets and grudges is no way to live. I wish you good luck despite the wishful thinking.
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>>483782189
>It's called balding
ftfy
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Can I see some proof that bot hosters are banned? Where do I find this out?
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>>483782189
It's called balding nigga
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>>483782257
balding is a stage of norwood, it's gradual
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>>483782383
bald deez nutz
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>>483782349
Men tend to go bald. Baldshaming is kind of retarded unless you're a woman (female).
If you're a tranny then it's laughable.
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>>483747754
haha yes and they will also release new weapons, the source 2 port, the final comic, the adult swim series, bring back crossovers and promotional items with other games, and lastly they will stream tyler mcvicker's public execution :)
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Male pattern baldness is a sign of high testosterone
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>>483782217
Dying full of grudges and regrets means you get to become a kickass ghost who can spook the living due to unfinished business
While your peaceful ass will be in the gay afterlife my soul will keep on scaring the living for shits n giggles
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>>483782718
>tranny obsessed
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>>483782773
I'm going to my fucking grave mad the comic never finished
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>>483767749
Damn I haven't kept up with Zesty in awhile, sad to see hes getting fat again.
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she could save tf2 if valve won’t
our last line of defense, behold
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>>483783362
egon
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>>483782217
Except that there's pretty much a direct link between the absolute state of TF2 and the dissolution of Quickplay. Obviously there's no changing the past but we doesn't mean we should just let it go forever, especially when it's the root cause of what we have to deal with.
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Only 3 fraggers on castaway
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>>483783362
medic if he was designed by riot games
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>>483783776
2 vs 1
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>>483780252
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>>483784150
>Tyler is 27 and already married
>I'm 24 and still haven't been on a date
What does this man have that I don't?
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>>483784150
the thumbnail looks like a conehead lol
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>>483784279
They met when they were kids so really for him it's just insane luck.
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Soldier IS the best class in TF2
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Give Scout a primary replacement akin to the Wee Booties or Bootlegger that increases his viability as a melee class. It could be themed as a knight('s squire) or a ninja given previously existing Scout cosmetics. The obvious stat increase is +25 HP, but other stats are a bit more difficult.

Trying to port over stats from the Demo boots and 'translate' them to Scout doesn't work, as the Bootlegger cares about having a shield equipped. Damage related stats such as increased crit rate (perhaps at the cost of only being able to mini crit), higher damage or even faster swing speed could also work but aren't the most creative. Maybe not being creative is fine in this instance. A movement speed increase could work, but already being the fastest class in the game such a stat would likely be redundant. Something like increased air control would also be interesting but I don't think it would be too relevant outside of the Atomizer.
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Soldier IS the gayest class in TF2
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>>483778284
>Weezy's Bequest
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>>483776009
>it's le shills!
I'm in and I'm having fun. I've never played a moba but this has kinda replaced TF2 for me for now at least
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>>483776009
>it's le shills!
I'm in and I'm being paid by Valve. I've never played TF2 but this has kinda replaced League of Legends for me for now at least
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Post more deadlock clips
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>>483782878
based ghostGOD
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>>483786602
based half-ghostGOD
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sorry i only have images
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Anyone who says Deadlock is replacing TF2 in any capacity (besides financially on Valve's end) is a literal and unironic shill. It is not anything like TF2.
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>>483787043
stole this from /v/
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post your old screenshots
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>>483787043
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>>483787456
Where's the actual game
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>>483787695
>press a magic awesome button
>everyone dies
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pF1vS4rRey0
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>>483787695
slop
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>>483787043
more deadlock clips
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Deadlock looks like a fake game that a teenager would be playing in a TV sitcom
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I heard TF2 is a cool game.
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>>483787736
why don't they just shoot him? or is everyone also invulnerable when they press their "i win" button?
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>>483787695
wait a minute... that name
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>>483787772
in my big ugly butt
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>>483788229
which one?
shallow god?
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>>483786924
how are the two even similar? deadlock isn't even first-person lol
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1 gamer on castaway right now
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>>483788267
Look at you so faggy, so cocksure, prancing aboot with yer ass full of stored fat
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Hey how many gamers on castaway right now?
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>>483788991
only one person on all castaway servers
Gabber lost
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>>483788510
idk. It's a game where I can shoot enemy players. Scratches that itch enough
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>>483788313
you recognize it too? I can't quite recall where I've seen it before
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>>483787712
I miss old VSH servers that exclusively ran Arena/KOTH maps with the occasional VSH map thrown in.
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>>483784094
I don't have a cat

>>483787712
I still miss my Homies
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>>483787712
first screenshot i ever took
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>>483789942
>of all the old screenshots he could post he posts a spawn room (but look he has an 88 medic ks!!)
Why are you so obsessed with performance in such a casual game?
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>>483789965
It's so weird how TF2 is still one of the goriest games out there.
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>>483787782
Reminds me of the pooping button in ARK or the self destruct button in war thunder
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>>483790079
Because I'm a winner. I have a winner mentality. I am always on the search for others who want to always win. Hard fought victories are sensational

Here's a time I ran into another White Energy Medic, tee hee
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Unusuals are gay and you are gay if you wear one. Ruins the artsyle
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Sounds like something a poor person would say
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some are decent but i prefer being a minimalist tryhard / moonlight, makes people acknowledge your skill more independently because there's no shiny hat to tell them to
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You work at a grocery store nigga
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GET ON CASTAWAY RIGHT NOW
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>>483790951
Sorry, I'm going to bed. I'll be there tomorrow.
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I work as a manager at a grocery store, making salary pay

>>483790823
I like when they compliment my Unusuals and my Collector's set
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BOTS ALREADY BACK LMAOOOOOO
TFTROONS LOST ONCE AGAIN
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>>483790998
You should join us at Castaway.tf. it's exactly the same thing as casual, but with less shitters.
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>>483791117
>Less shitters
How am I supposed to make my spy frag comp then????
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>>483791117
The way you keep shilling it makes me feel like it's nothing but shitters in there. Hard pass on your dogshit community servers
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>spy is uniquely bad because it's harder for him to do well if his opponents are skilled
uh, yeah, same for every other class
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>dumps 100 or more dollars
>"Haha g-guys, TFTr-roons lost! we have bots b-
>gets banned again
>repeat til he runs out of money
>-ACK!"
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TF2 is healing...
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bots lost bigly
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The bot hosters aren't even American right?
Isn't $100+ like 6 billion in their shitty currencies?
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>>483791289
Stop bagging and start fragging, bagboy. You’re afraid of being exposed as a fraud, which is why you refuse to join our server.
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>>483791375
Maybe they'll learn to get good at the game now.
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>>483790539
You're a loser IRL though. Maybe apply that mentality to your life instead of an easy FPS. Bragging about TF2 skill is pathetic since 90% of players are actually shit and there's not match making so you can just pubstomp all the time. This isn't inherently good or bad but bragging about doing good is just sad
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>>483791669
huh? emidroide? the guy who plays pyro always with a medic gf on badwater? what are his clips doing here?
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The bot hosters are actually the biggest whales. They get their accounts banned and then they shell out hundreds of dollars on premium accounts. VALVE PROFITS FROM BANNING BOTS BECAUSE THEY MAKE NEW ACCOUNTS AND BUY PREMIUM. HOW PATHETIC IS THAT?
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bagboy manages groceries into bags
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Why do the bots need to have premium? Raping the game with aimbots is more important than spamming chat or calling kicks, especially since their votekicks rarely work.
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>>483791968
evidently not
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There are no other bagboys in New York City. Bagboy does the bagging himself.
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>>483791968
F2Ps basically have no rights. You need premium to chat, both text and voice. If a bot wants to give off the impression that they're a real player so they won't just be kicked instantly, they need to pony up some cash.
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>>483791798
When your life savings are banned in 5 seconds nobody is gonna care.
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Hey guys, loadout.tf is a great site for playing with expressions. Check it out.
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^ especially with that wave of bots that tried to pass themselves off as legit players
didnt seem to work out too well for em though
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>>483791968
They get kicked all the time, and you'd know that if you played casual. I've also seen a ton of votes whose outcome did not match the counters which can only be explained by free to play votes not counting.
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>>483792285
ummm i'm not a bothoster buddy i'm just remarking that i recognise this guy from when i play tf2 (a thing you evidently don't do)

what in the samhill about that post made you think i was one?
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>Weezy said it's not right to boycott at stream
>check TheWhat's latest tweet about their plans as a thread
>he still mentions how important it is to not spend any money on TF2
Holy lel, are they really that desperate to make traders break prices to clear market later? Nobody really buys the facade of protest anymore. The only reason they're waiting for a month is the hope that botters recovering. They never have the full trust in what they are doing. I bet Valve can easily tell that they're bad faith actors. I wonder what their reaction will be to them when they finally did the flight.
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>>483766735
it was be funny if an entire economy was created out of this
>bot hosters get thier power trip
>tf2tubers have things to talk about and complain
>valve gets thier bag
>rinse and repeat
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>>483792424
the "protest" has lost all crediblity because most of its participants are literal underages on reddit who don't know how to handle themselves
that guy weezy coming onto zesty's stream and admitting to being awake for 32 hours and addied out was a hilariously terrible look
by and large the community figures who have taken the reins seem to very much be ladder-climbers and social engineers (shork and his nonsense with the VAs) and that doesn't sit well with much people
not to mention the fact that they're all new blood on the tf2 scene

as usual the actual work will be done without any help from these imbeciles needed
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>>483790823
Yeah, I usually tone it down too for that same reason. I'm not going to lie though, when I pull out the drip and get a good frag or Dom it is so much more common to see the player I killed just straight leave the game. People get all worked up about unusuals, want to put you in your place and all that, so when you push their shit in even when they're coming for you it damages their pride badly. If I'm not having a good day at the game, I'll just use of my of blend in with the crowd normie loadouts with basic hats.
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i played 4 rounds of causal with absolutely no bots today

is nice
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i'm not saying we should remove pyro
but if i were to pick a class to remove it would be pyro
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>>483793783
I played with my wiener :)
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An update to Team Fortress 2 has been released. The update will be applied automatically when you restart Team Fortress 2. The major changes include:
- Removed the Pyro class
- Added the Fempyro class
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>>483791968
It's basic F2P safeguard from the old days. Essentially, there was always an anticipation that free accounts could be used in a negative way, so they have extremely limited rights. F2P accounts who are kicked from matches are timed out for a period of time, and this increases if more offenses are made. So, this is a very ineffective way to disrupt games, since it can only be done for a few seconds at best. All cheater bots in TF2 use premium accounts by design. The fact that premium users can call for votes and mic/message spam is just an additional bonus.
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Why is zesty such a spaz? He takes such offense to the crimes of other against the precious art style, which for his own viewing pleasure he rapes with porn. It'd be one thing if he could just own the hypocrisy, but it's like the guy genuinely cannot understand perspectives that aren't his own. Didn't one of you guys say he failed the breakfast test? It figures. Watching a vod of his while I frag.
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>>483795859
I forgot to mention I'm a workshopper not sure if that's important though
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>>483795859
can't you tell the difference between adding content to the game that is forever enshrined in it and downloading a mod for your own personal use?
there's no hypocrisy because there's no contradiction in his viewpoint. he's not advocating that everyone be forced to look at his fempyro mod (unlike some workshoppers)
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kill jill
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>>483795859
Fempyro is based however
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>>483796395
If the game's art style were something he valued, it would show in how he chooses to experience it for himself.
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>>483796518
Neato idea
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>>483797321
You don't fucking understand
There is a diffeence between mods AND OFFICIALLY ADDED
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>>483797604
Yes I do, retard. I am questioning why I should listen to a thing he says when he doesn't practice what he preaches? Is his ideal that we all secretly have art style raping mods installed and the game itself is preserved in amber in some platonic state that exists in trailers? If this faggot loves the art style so much why does he go out of his way to not experience it?
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>483797321
so you dont like the mods hes using. it's not your call to make, is it? it's his version of the game and it's his choice.
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>>483797321
>>483797832
He's not forcing anybody to look at his Fempyro mod, unlike the people putting in official cosmetics or assets that break the art style everyone has to look at. That's his entire point.
>art style raping
Jesus christ, you're making a mountain out of an anthill. Fempyro / Femscout / etc are some of the oldest mods ever made for the game (you probably weren't even playing this game in 2009 when they were made), and were well designed under the conventions of the art style. Both look like characters from the universe and are properly cartoony and exaggerated. Even Valve designed and considered Femclasses for the game. Does Fempyro break the art style just because she has big boobs? No she doesn't. Zhanna and the pinup girls also have big boobs. Get off your damn high horse and seethe at something that matters. He's not putting Freddy Fazbear in the game or using that gaudy Persona 5 HUD everybody loves.
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>>483798038
It matters when this is the face of the opposition to the worksloppers
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So now what? Redditors buy up summer cases in droves while weezy goons to mvm ticket trades?
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>>483798158
does it? nobody but you is complaining about this and it hasn't stopped his counter-counter culture of rebelling against rebelling against the original artstyle from gaining traction
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>>483798146
Nothing from valve looked remotely like fempyro, and his interest in her has obvious motive. I won't entertain that this isn't sexual.
It doesn't belong in the game. If it were a cosmetic in the workshop, I'm sure he would condemn it. But it makes it hard to take him seriously when he does so when I tune in and see him doing it to himself for pleasure. He doesn't practice what he preaches and that is a problem.
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>>483791968
Don't they use inactive and hijacked accounts? If the steam leak from 2018 is to believed there's at least 50 million total accounts with TF2 in the library. But actually breaking into those accounts or finding them is a different story.
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>>483798482
>If it were a cosmetic
Yeah but it's not. That's the point.
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>>483740093
what's exactly so exciting about revolver kills?
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>>483798413
Zesty said in the vod that tons of people have expressed this sentiment, but he can't understand it.
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>>483798590
That isn't what the objection is, it's a deflection.
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>>483798614
>mfw zesty replies to 3 of my chat messages in a row
im the main character
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>>483798482
>Nothing from valve looked remotely like fempyro,
Except Zhanna. Again you're acting like it's "art style raping" which is a gross exaggeration.
>If it were a cosmetic in the workshop, I'm sure he would condemn it.
But it isn't, so he doesn't.
Again, you're acting like "Pyro but girl" (which is already hinted at by the game) is on the same level as https://gamebanana.com/mods/473058 and it's some kind of egregious skin to mildly alter the game. You can be an art style purist without being a hard "I MUST use NO HATS and stock hud and NO MODS except the NO HATS MOD!!!"
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>>483798192
Yeah probably. Everyone has memory holed the banwave a couple years ago that fixed nothing long term. Valve needs to come out and say what their long term plan is and commit to it. Only then did we win.
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>>483798912
>skin
sin*
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>>483798912
So the mannish joke character they had in the comic that released way after the game's art style was set? That's weak. I was envisioning some character sketches I've seen from early design work.
Zesty himself gets flustered with excitement when doing taunts with his pyro doll, so again not buying it. It's sexual for him, and you know it doesn't fit with anything you'd see in game so stop pretending otherwise.
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>>483784279
its not fair
i never even held hands with a woman
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>>483799438
n*gga the first thing you see when you spawn in the game after picking a class is a pin-up calendar
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Thank you valve very cool. I will now spend money on your game
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>>483799734
Because I'd expect to see a porn star running around with a rifle in a war movie if there was a pin up in the locker room scene. Fucking pathetic.
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>>483799937
>you know it doesn't fit with anything you'd see in game so stop pretending otherwise.
goalpost status? moved
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>>483799438
>mannish
If men had bodies like that I'd probably be gay.
>joke character
Are you retarded? Every character is treated humorously. She's a mainstay character, not a one-off.
> that released way after the game's art style was set?
Her design is actually reused from the official Femsoldier model, circa 2009. If you want a better example, Valve's model is as bottom heavy as Fempyro and has large boobs too.
>Zesty himself gets flustered with excitement when doing taunts with his pyro doll, so again not buying it. It's sexual for him, and you know it doesn't fit with anything you'd see in game so stop pretending otherwise.
I'm not arguing Zesty doesn't get sexual enjoyment out of it you invalid. I'm arguing it doesn't "rape" the art style given every precedent I already mentioned, and you're being nothing but hyperbolic.
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>>483800028
I want to have sex with femsoldier
valve robbed me of my wife
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>>483800028
I only read the comics when they were released, so my only lasting impression of her was that she was sexually aggressive and paired off with the soldier. You can have that, I'm not going to say that it isn't valve's work, and I certainly don't know better. It doesn't look like a character I've seen in the game.
It at times seems you almost are arguing that it does belong in the game, but then when it's convenient it is just a mod and is his own personal thing we can't judge him for. It's a motte and Bailey.
Thing is that to HIM, and to me and to most people it is immediately and Intuitively identified as fetish material. Something with a character notably absent from the unmodified game (minus a few workshop cosmetics.)
I really don't think it fits. One of these things is not like the others and all that.
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>>483800717
zero contradiction between the two statements, both are true. it is just a mod and his own preference, and it ALSO isn't violating the artstyle when you actually think about it and look at past examples past "intuition"
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https://gamebanana.com/mods/519676
>2024 fix? kino mod brought back? oh boy
>actually read the page
>doesn't even have the custom animations (the most impressive part of the original mod imo)
I hate shitbanana so much it's unreal
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>>483798886
>schizo can't read
paint me surprised. I'll try asking once more: what's so interesting about killing with the
>revolver?
it's not very much a stylistic choice as it is a cheap one, am I not right?
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>>483801089

>>483801089
The contradiction is in how it is defended. At first it was "just a mod," notable for not being a cosmetic. Meaning something I am to credit him for not wanting to be included in the base game. Then later we hear a different story, one about how actually some comic had a character with cleavage who is based on a body type and so on and so on that leads us to the completely different take that this is 'just the art style bro'
It isn't. Not to him, and not to anyone with eyes who is honest.
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>>483800717
>I only read the comics when they were released, so my only lasting impression of her was that she was sexually aggressive and paired off with the soldier.
She becomes part of the main cast after that point onward and actually that's a very good point, her and Soldier have sex right there on the page. This is an M-rated game and sexuality is not some kind of verboten topic that's never represented.
>It doesn't look like a character I've seen in the game.
Femsoldier is pretty close to Zhanna, and even if Femsoldier went unused it's something Valve thought fit their own art style in 2009 enough to model and have ready to go.
>It at times seems you almost are arguing that it does belong in the game, but then when it's convenient it is just a mod and is his own personal thing we can't judge him for. It's a motte and Bailey.
No, you're either confusing me the second anon or you have trouble realizing I'm arguing two entirely separate points and neither are mutually exclusive.
The first being that it IS a mod and not equivalent to something everyone's being forced to see. The second is that it doesn't "rape" the art style on his version of the game like you were so boldly claiming. I never flip flopped because I was literally arguing both in the same post.
>Thing is that to HIM, and to me and to most people it is immediately and Intuitively identified as fetish material.
A sexy woman existing is not inherently fetish material and that's simply a product of how far back the pendulum has swung that you think that. It's pretty sexist to call a woman "fetish material" just for looking voluptuous.
>I really don't think it fits. One of these things is not like the others and all that.
It's okay to not think it fits. It's another thing to go around telling a bald-faced lie that it's destroying the art style and he's somehow a hypocrite when it both mildly conforms to the art style and and he's not saying it should be officially added.
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>>483801764
Mainly it's the cleavage and impractical garb. I have a girlfriend whose body type is similar, and it's not like I can't envision a body like that in a professional setting.
Yes I used hyperbolic language. It was a response to how zesty completely wigs out over this. I still think it's a bad look, but I see your point about the fem soldier.
Goodnight Anon.
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>>483802229
I will admit it would better conform to the art style if he uninstalled the cleavage jacket mod. I don't think Fempyro alone is unfitting.
>I have a girlfriend whose body type is similar
God now I'm jealous. Goodnight.
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>>483799898
I realized I didn't like that medigun so I spent another stack on this medigun. thoughts?
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>>483802350
shut up my dad....owns.....this dealership
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>>483799898
>>483802520
The first one was better go buy it back
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>>483802520
>buying shiny guns for medic
why? nobody ever looks at the sidekick
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yeah i have a girlfriend and she has big fat tits and she likes to wear latex a lot and also she has severe schizophrenia and she kills people for money in the desert
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>>483802602
you'll look when you're on one health after a sniper body shot
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>>483802683
wait a minute... I think you and I have the same girlfriend
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>>483802683
It wasn't funny the first time you said it
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If you are a man, goodbye.
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>>483802881
sorry
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>>483742138
Real until they will come back like last time.
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>>483802602
it's my favorite class. something about completely outplaying someone with a weaker class is ecstasy. even weaker than the spy

>>483802576
I still have it. but I am planning on selling it. idk how desu I guess I just have to learn how backpack.tf works?
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Tyler McCHADcker has a 10/10 tradwife and I’m still stuck gooning to fempyro even though I facemog him. Why live
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>>483802794
yes play out this revenge fantasy in your head when in reality you will heal me like the good boy you are while i blast off into combat again
>>483802881
actually a different one (not me) (don't know why he redid my joke)
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>>483802683
Fuck pyros. Get head from pyros. Fuck 16,000 pyro bots. Fuck a pyro on the control point. Randomly crit pyros with your cock. Make pyros complete naked jumping jacks before every match. Slamdunk your cock into her. Snap off a pyro's bra. Follow pyro threads. ERP with pyro posters. Cum inside filthy pyro mains. Hang pyros in shibari bondage. Have the pyro make you a sandvich after. Launch sperm into pyros. Fry pyros' brains with sex. Toss a pyro's salad. Urinate into a pyro's mouth (she's into it). Judo throw pyros onto a bed. Blackmail pyros into sex with their dox. Twist pyros' nipples. Report your love for pyros to Valve. Always uber pyros. Split pyros' legs in half. Sexually heal pyros. Give pyros surprise buttsex. Critically hit pyros in the womb. Impregnate pyros. Get trapped into sex by demon pyros from the underworld. Dump sperm into a pyro cum dumpster. Submerge pyros into a vat of cum. Eat pyros' pussies. Dissect pyros' clothes off. Dominate pyros after defeating them in MGE. Slap pyro's face during sex with the Hot Hand. Give pyros health packs. Make pyros suck'em. Cream inside pyros' holes. Lobotomize pyros into sex slaves. Mandatory slut training for pyros. Give pyros your love paste. Drown pyros in mad milk. Whip pyros' asses with a disciplinary action. Camp in the same tent with pyros. Invite a pyro to your mvm lobby. Feed pyros your semen. Give pyros your hat drops in exchange for sex. Fuck pyros like an alligator. Slice pyros' clothes off with the half-zatoichi.
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>>483803406
>(don't know why he redid my joke)
does bagviva say pyro is his girlfriend?
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>>483767491
The one he punches, or a different one?
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>>483803531
no but replying to posts that have nothing to do with him with useless information is his MO
see >483789942 for instance
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>>483803406
still looked at it
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Need mentally ill tf2 gf
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>>483803809
That bitch better stay AWAY from my husband, MEDIC IS GAY AND WILL ALWAYS BE GAY
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>wake up
>tf2 fixed
holy fvck... weezy saved the game...
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>>483803957
He has a wife. Demo said so.
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>>483804291
He's drunk, he doesn't know better
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>>483802942
>>483802602
i mean just fucking look at this
95% of pub medics DIE in this scenario. I mean forget that the pyro is just memeing and could have killed me with his flamethrower. But in the scenario it just feels so good to go from someone thinking I'm dead meat to suddenly surviving with 17hp
This feeling is better than anything else in the game
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>>483804448
Except Demo gets more competent when he's drunk, and that's the only person he says has a wife. Curious.
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>>483804557
> I mean forget that the pyro is just memeing and could have killed me with his flamethrower
no
medicfags posting movement that any class (except a revved heavy i guess) could achieve and acting like its unique to their class
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>mastercoms claims there are roughly 30k bots with no proof
>Uhh just trust me bro I'll release the tool I used soon™
>Oh, also anyone who may or may not be transphobic *wink* *wink* claiming otherwise even with proof of their work is just wrong and they always will be :)
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I have received word.
Meet your match will be completely reverted soon and sv_pure 0 will return.
Options to disable certain paints and cosmetics client side will also be added.
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8 and the summer update comes out tomorrow
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>>483804879
what's the upshot in this conspiracy? mastercoms was paid off by bothosters (masterminded by uncle dane of course) to lie and demoralize the tf2 playerbase? sneak malicious code into every mastercomfig?
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>>483804734
Yeah an alibi wife because in 1968 homosexuality was still outlawed in West Germany, do your research.
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>>483804882
>Options to disable certain paints and cosmetics client side will also be added.
Lol if Valve bent over like a bitch to tradermains crying over the quickswitch bug fix they'll never allow to disable paints and cosmetics, unfortunately
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>>483804974
He intentionally ghosted Zesty when he was working on the bot video so it's clear he dislikes him, probably because of the troon remarks, despite this zesty's server can still be found through his community quickplay, so he didn't blacklist the server (yet)
Guess we'll have to wait and see once the tool is released (if ever)
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>>483756643
Wait, have TF2 game bans EVER been handed out?
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>>483804750
It's not about how "every class could achieve this". It's that medic is absolutely the weakest class in the game and forces you to achieve this. It's the fact playing medic makes you feel like you're about to die at any second. There's no fighting back. There's no switching to pipes and juggling the demoknight. You either survive and keep your uber or die
The entire conversation was why I enjoy medic so much. I'm not at all the best medic in the world nor do I post these clips to try to prove I am. It's just absolutely pure ecstasy playing medic, surviving when you have absolutely no right to
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>>483805559
yeah
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>>483805709
yes there is retard
you have a melee and a gun
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>>483804975
Then who was Demo fucking genius?
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>tf2 fans will say its not a BLACKED core game
>when interracial cuckoldry is included in the game
kek!
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>>483805929
>fight a demoknight with melee and a crossbow while also covered in jarate
now I know you're trolling
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>>483805709
>It's that medic is absolutely the weakest class in the game and forces you to achieve this.
sniper is weaker. less hp so he can't afford to surf dmg as often as medic, less potential dps than spy revolver, less speed
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>>483806119
They only had an affair if anything. Demo clearly has eyes for Soldier.
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>>483806238
>instakill 150hp headshots is weaker than 40 damage close up crossbows and 65 damage melee swings
idk if you know this but people really like shooting at medics. a 25hp difference is nothing compared to how often you'll be below that amount
the medic is also incentivized to be closer to the action. while snipers will often see people coming trying to target them
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eu servers with the bot ban are like muselk era right now with at least 3 good trolldiers on the enemy team at all times
i feel forced to play heavy and just be an anti drone machine gun just to keep my teams alive or 2/3 of them are permanently dead to being spooned
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>>483806493
>eyes for Soldier just because they're friends
His actual roommate is a talking sword so it would be more believable to say he fucks swords by that logic, anon.
Unfortunately for you Demo is a proud black BVLL that fucks other people's wives and Soldier is a proud American that colonizes Russian girls.
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>>483806718
>playing on well.webm
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>>483806718
there's no way those people survived
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>>483807365
it's cool. they just respawned 30 seconds later
but one of them is clinically retarded and schizophrenic now after leaving the respawn chamber, it's kind of weird
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>>483807502
>clinically retarded and schizophrenic now
ah the soldier you mean
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If Medic has a wife why is she not in any of the comics?
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>>483807538
no that was a reference to emesis blue
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>>483806753
soldier is literally a neet with a loaded shotgun pointed at his main door
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>>483804734
Spy has a wife and Demoman never mentions it though
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Didn't Faliszek do most of the writing for TF2? He's still active so it could be worth asking him why the came up with that Medic's wife line, same with fruit shop owners
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Medic obviously has a wife. I am him. I am medic's boy (male) wife
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>>483808252
.......
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>>483808252
so true bestie
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>>483808252
based
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>>483802602
Medic is the best class. Simple as.
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rate warlock heavy
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F
FOUR
0
TOUR!
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>>483809349
That wasn't funny the first time
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>>483765595
if he's scraping for $150 he must be a NEET or a minimum wage worker.
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He’s right
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>>483809546
Probably sending most of his money to a findom queen like me lol
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>>483805709
>It's that medic is absolutely the weakest class in the game
You should clarify that he has the lowest individual offensive power in the game. Medic IS the strongest class in the game and is truly broken. One medic gives a team such a steroid boost that even f2p's can kill experienced players if they have a medic and the other team doesn't. Sniper is only broken in theory, but medic maintains his brokenness even with regular humans.
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Pathetic.
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>>483784150
Zesty won't reproduce, but this will.
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>>483809845
Men who spread their ideas reproduce in a more significant way.
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>>483810031
Meanwhile TylerGOD is spreading both his seed and the source code
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>>483810031
If his idea is being a faggot i think that has been done before..
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>>483810307
why would you be a slut for a broadcasting service?
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>>483810031
you're so right sis. zesty is a philosopher of modern ages. generations to come will revere his...opinions on hats in team fortress 2
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>>483809802
What was the 7 year ago update again? Was it jungle inferno?
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Zesty must have negative rizz if Tyler McVicker can get a gf and he cannot
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Is Lazypurple really in some institution or whatever to get help for his mental health?
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>>483809802
I hate redditors so much it's unreal
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>>483810416
The update she’s referring to was Meet Your Match. She’s complaining about the harsh backlash valve faced as a result of the update.
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>>483810418
I mean have you looked at Zesty? His mere physiognomy would scare any woman. He looks like he's just pissed off all day, every day.
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Why don't 4channers do stuff together, like MvM for example?
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>>483810418
He just has different priorities. Having a girlfriend is fine but it's also kind of stupid.
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>>483810659
famously antisocial bunch who will usually find the smallest reason to ostracize and criticize others
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Zesty looked infinitely better without the beard. Just sayin'
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>>483810659
Tf2g server existed (exists?) But people get too schizophrenic about it, it makes the thread cliquey and people disagree about how it should be run.
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>>483810542
Ah. I seem to have memory-holed MYM away, despite disliking it back then too.
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>>483810489
Is this the thing where you say a lie to find out the truth because I find it hard to believe he is
Unless Casuals video mindbroke him like in my NTR hentais
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>>483810659
we play on konata.tf quite often though
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Guys.........
Eric finally decided to act
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why doesnt steam do little events for their sales anymore? i know theyve been on a gradual decline but for this summer sale theyre even reusing the tranime design from the spring sale.
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>>483810907
In one of his how it feels videos he started talking about how he was absent for some time because he started therapy and taking medications and encouraged the viewers to also go to therapy because it helped him so much
Then recently zesty hinted that he was away for his mental health or something but I don't know if it was zesty just spewing shit or if he knows something
Would explain his absence
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>>483811227
He's gonna turn the TF2 servers into candy and feed them to Gaben
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>>483803098
Never forget that this man's thirst for troon cock is directly responsible for the bot crisis.
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>>483811634
He needs to brush is teeth baaad
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>>483811296
Doing a new event every season is treadmill work
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GEG i watched zestys stream and he backpeddled on the idelbots so hard. he dismissed the idea of them effecting the economy saying they only matter if you trade metal for keys and claimed to only have made the video because they inflate the player number EVEN DOE he said multiple times before and after the vid that he thought it could crash the economy and that he cashed out because of it.
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>>483811296
valve hates treadmill work now, the more that is automated the better
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>>483811634
ok
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>bots handled by a banwave
>anons now talk about anime and fempyro
>salt levels rising due to zesty
>not a single TF2ber who started the fixTF2 movement did a video about the recent banwave because it ruins their narrative
>bot hosters are seething and readying up their alt accounts
So we back to normal?
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>>483757372
Amby exists
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>>483760506
Zesty is pessimistic because he thinks valve doesn't care. Shounic was pessimistic because he thinks the bots are unstoppable super hackers and valve had no choice but to kneel down before them because no solution would ever work.
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>a couple hundred bots get manually banned
>um achtually, valve has been working on it for 2 years (source trust me bro)
Is there a community more pathetic and whipped than tf2?
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>>483810418
he looks like a homeless man who couldn't go to a 20$ barber, the beard literally adds 10 years to his look...
>>483810667
ok zestyfag, that's just huge copium, what other priorities? rating pixels in an online f2p game? please, he just can't get coochie because no girl likes his autistic spiel about some 2007 game that doesn't get updates
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>>483811461

How it actually went
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>>483811771
you know he has a job and a family? life doesn't end with "coochie"
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>>483761081
He uses the no hats mod
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>>483810659
Idk, is the new mvm event any good? I was skipping it because the previous one that just ended was so bad
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>>483810759
All men do. Beards are for sissies.
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>>483809802
I'm a little optimistic about all this shit and even then, why the fuck are they sucking valves dick again
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>>483812694
>zesty has a job and family
what, when did this happen
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>>483812687
First one was funny, no clue who that is
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>>483813605
Not true they're also for bikers, musicians like ZZ Top, and the incredibly depressed, thank you
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>>483814357
He means family as in his mom and dad
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>>483814842
...literally everyone has that
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>>483812687
>"thank you zesty jesus"
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>>483815228
I'm born on a mountain and raised in a cave as a test tube baby
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>>483815342
mountain is dad and cave is mom
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>>483815398
Thanks for clearing that up for me, I was having an existential crisis for the last 26 years.
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>>483815228
Depends on your melanin amount
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>>483815228
Orphans don't
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>>483810418
>talks about porn every stream
>absolutely baffled at the fact that people find fempyro mods to be unusual behavior
>children's toys surround his gaming set up
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>Was just placed in a server filled with bots
Its joever
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>>483815978
Do you think orphans just materialize in baskets in front of foster homes?
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>>483816960
no idiot the stork brings them
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>>483782773
>promo weapons
NO.
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>>483816856
Oh no
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>>483817594
>>483816856
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>>483816856
>>483817594
Bothosting CHADS... we just keep on winning
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kill all medic players in mvm they're all worthless dogs
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umm...woof?
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>>483818879
>angry pyro player typed this
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>>483816856
Proof?
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>Was just placed in a server filled with cum
Its joever
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>Was placed in a jar filled with cum
Its joever
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>Was just placed in /tf2g/ thread
Its joever
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>>483811634
what was the name of that server again, the item rebalance one him and his troons ran and they didnt pay their server host a penny for 2 years and he bailed and when it died its mods when to uncle soys server as admins
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>Am
Its joever
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>>483817594
Oh no no no
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>joe
I am
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>>483819943
joe mama lmao
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>>483817594
....okay maybe it is treadmill work.
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>The last word out of your mouth will be YYYAAAAAAAEEARRRARRRRRGGGGHGGHHHHHHH *clang clang clang*
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>>483820063
the benefits of doing it for free is that treadmill work does not apply at all
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>>483773642
I fucking wish.
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>>483811227
The ai had absolutely no idea what to do there. Interesting
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>>483817594
>>483699768
>>
EMERGIS EXMORTIS
>>483820872
>>483820872
>>483820872
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>>483809802
>7 years ago
You were still shitting your diaper 7 years ago
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>>483795859
it's not hypocrisy to say that the vanilla game should be a certain way and then install mods for your own customization. Mods are client side, Only you can see them, workslop garbage is not. It's very simple



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