>Latest patchhttps://en.bandainamcoent.eu/elden-ring/news/elden-ring-calibration-update-1122>Main information documenthttps://rentry.org/erpasta>Character plannershttps://eip.gg/elden-ring/build-planner/https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/19Op36P7gdVMkPzFQX6OsjZcfyUjdGOj7Cjk9qFAVj-U/edit>Interactive maphttps://mapgenie.io/elden-ring/maps/the-lands-between>Group passworderg>Previous>>483951271
Melina happy ending when..
nice spinning infinite poise anime combo, faggot
Melina belongs to the Three Fingers.
Would ranni be okay if I took advantage of her mother?
Friendship ended with Guts sword, Ancient Meteor-chan is now my new weaponfu
>Keep finding more Messmer/Relanna fanart>Still nothing for Miquella/RadahnLmao
MIYAZAKI...TELL ME...WHAT'S THE CONCLUSION?WHAT WILL HAPPEN TO>MALENIA>HALIGTREE>LATENNA'S SISTERTELL ME. TELL ME MIYAZAKI.WHAT ABOUT>LIURNIA SINKING>DEATH AIDS SPREADING>RYKARD REGENERATING>3 FINGERSOR >NEPHELI'S STORM>RYA or JAR BAIRN>SELLEN>HEWG and RODERIKA>RENNALA and the AMBER EGG>PATCHESTELL ME YOU SICK FUCK.>dumb gaijin make headcanon wwwwF A G G O T
if I already assisted leda to kill hornsent, I should help her kill Sir Ansbach right?I feel like saving Sir Ansbach will just end her quest even though I like him
I just wanted my own boyhole
Miquella chads report!
>cocktease new Crucible Spells with the Black Knight that tongues and Devonia with her centaur form>does not turn them into spells>does not allow the Ordovis/Siluria/Devonia weapons to swap their skill for Crucible WingsI am a bit mad
>here is your reward for parrying Radahn 3 times bro (including the punish when he is recovering)
YOOOO this gameplay is fire frfrfr
how many fire knight weapons are there?is it just the colossal sword and the dagger?
>>483964134why the fuck is crucible wings an ash of war when all the other crucibles are spells? like seriously what the fuck?
>>483964140you can get hits in during the individual parries, and the risk is lower since you don't have to deal with followups, seems like a fair chunk of damage
>Host just runs off on his own and leaves me to 1v1 the red>Hunter spawned in who knows were and never showed up>land one flower dragonbolt>cast a single uncharged ancient dragon strike>reds health evaporates I think I'm in love with this hammer, blue dancer charm also makes it do very respectable damage despite only meeting the minimum strength requirements.
lore retard here, wtf was the point of castle sol, the unalloyed needle, and the haligtree? how does it connect to miquella's goal to have radahn as his consort?base game miquella and dlc miquella just feel like two separate characters with different motivations to me
>>483964217Wait, I just fucking remembered about that.I thought it would be just like Golden Vow, with it being an ash of war and spell.
help. how do I get down into that godforsaken hole in the ground?
>shota femboy rapist and his mindbroken bara brother as the final boss How did Miyazaki come up with this?
>>483964054The asians are doing some but it's not tagged
>didnt get a messmer weapon buff incantation>>483964281
>>483964246Not with a greatsword, unfortunately. But thats on me.
Can't say I'm enjoying my time in abyssal woods lads desu
>>483964217I see the logic, while with other incantation you summon new body parts to attack, you summon wings to boost you weapon. Actually makes more sense as an AoWWhat I don't get is being cucked of the crucible spells that are already in the game
>>483964347ah I can't believe I missed that spot.thank you so much.
>>483964001Never bro. The story is dead. Elden Ring is done. Fromsoft is moving on to something else. And honestly, after the abomination of a story that is the DLC I'm happy for it.I can't believe they ruined Mohg, Malenia, Miquella and Radahn all in the same DLC. It's so fucking sad. Even if they do an Elden Ring 2 I really doubt the story is going to be anything interesting. All my faith in this dudes ability to tell a story, gone. It's so sad.
Will someone translate this to English please.
>>483964246Its OK if you have a bleed dagger, it stacks up. Otherwise - not really. At least not on SL 125
>>483964054>Keep finding more Messmer/Relanna fanartWhere
>>483964409Crepus Vial or BK armor makes it a very comfy area to cross
>Try to get near this nigger>He summons 3 consecutive fire meteror swarm that can automatically hone toward me >Dodge them all >Finally got near him >He then process to do his faggotry AOE fire stomps>Then resumed summoning meteor swarmThank Miyazaki, very fun
>>483964257>wtf was the point of castle sol, the unalloyed needle, and the haligtree? how does it connect to miquella's goal to have radahn as his consort?What we knew about miquella before the DLC is very different from miquella after the DLC. Everything he did seems pointless and/or retarded. So you can ignore both if you feel like it.>miquella and dlc miquella just feel like two separate characters with different motivations to meIt should be, since Miquella we find is someone who's removed his own emotions and shit. It's not really him.>Oh he threw his love away but also still loves Chadahn's (is horse is called Leonard in the game files) cockerrr don't think about it
I don't think I've had a single good multiplayer interaction with a Chinese player. Not one. Why are they all so cancerous?
>>483964409i still haven't found midra yet because i fucking hate that placetoo much running around on-foot in a huge empty space clearly originally built to be traversed with torrentevery place that looked like it might be interesting or lead somewhere cool just results in a shitty dead-end
>MIQUELLA MUST DIE>HE CANT BECOME A GOD>GODHOOD WILL BE A BURDEN FOR HIM>... okay why>JUST KILL HIM OKAYtell me why did the tarnished listen to this literal vegetable?
>>483964095Helping her kill Ansbach locks you out of his later rewards and gets you nothing.
>>483964529Xitter
>>483964506>Will someone translate this to English please.Forgot image.
>>483964552A bunch of projectiles being thrown into the air was done with the Wandering Mausoleum in Snowfields or the Graven School enemies and they go and repeat it here again but the twist is that it fucking follows you
>>483964050Guy on the right still has a better posture than most anons ITT
>>483964251>Host just runs off on his own and leaves me to 1v1 the redBeen seeing a lot of that lately. Had a host summon me for the deathrite bird of all things over in CC just up and fuck off back towards the grace and leave me trying to juggle a red, two grave birds, and the deathrite bird. Fucker could've at least tried to kill or draw aggro from the grave birds seeing as they were blocking the route i'd take to get out of the fuckzone but I guess having to risk running a few dozen feet to scoop up his runes if he died was too much for him to bear. I hope the red raped him.
Andreas+10 makes Radahn Phase 2 much easier.
>>483964662I think he is saying I'm forced to stay home everyday to care for my mother, who has been sick for 15 years. If you love my releases, please consider donating at KireiCake.com to support my livelihood. All proceeds go towards offsetting medical fees. Thank you so much for reading!
>>483964001the happy ending is burning yourself and then backing out with the needle, even if she still hates your guts at least she doesnt die or have to witness the end of the world and go Sans on your ass
>>483963875Bosses in this dlc are disappointing me big time. They feel cheap as fuck, like they're fine tuned to hardcounter the standard souls playstyle rather than presenting a challenge in general. Which is also why shit like deflecting tear feels so op.You don't notice with the harder bosses because they just overwhelm you, but the shitters really make it obvious: take putrescent aka easy mode gaius, his whole deal is trying to roll catch and stunlock you with the horse in phase one, and just be out of reach altogether in phase two. He's neither fast nor hard hitting enough to overwhelm you, but fighting him really breaks the immersion.
>>483964281You can jump down the gravestones by the cliff near the town ruins
>dash into Bayle stomplolgod Hornsent was fucking useless
>>483964552get off your horse and fight him close up. if he charges up a double jump, get some distance and jump. otherwise just jump any stomp and roll through his legs for the grab. rinse and repeat until dead.
>>483964552Now go do the one that breathes a continual enormous cone of fire at you from literal pop-in range.
Does anyone have any videos to Radahn fights with Ansbach or Thollier in them? I was gonna practice the fight until I knew I could do it solo, then summon them, so I felt like I did it properly. But then I just killed him without really thinkingI wanted to hear their dialogue
>>483964621>vegetableI killed him for Queen Ranni. No dynastic competitors shall be tolerated.
I've been doing the dlc with +11 flasks because I don't feel like looking up which seeds I missed in the base game.
>>483964662>Preparations ready! Time for the boss fight!>That shield again!? Throw that thing away and fight fair and sqaure!!>I guess he's upset...
>>483964662DEEPL:Tarnished: I'm ready! Let's go to the boss!Miquella: Not that shield again!Throw that thing away.Fight fair!Fight!Tarnished: He's getting angry...
>>483964621>Implying the Tarnished needs an excuse to kill rivals to the throne
They had Miquella and could have had him as an icon but threw him away in the garbage with a single DLC. It's honestly amazing how badly done this was. Super fucking amazing. Fromsoft isn't going to be able to come up with any iconic characters.
>>483964771>trusting a Hornigger to be usefulThe only hornigger to approach something resembling utility is the horned warrior summon, even then its utility ends the second you find Taylew. Behead horniggers.
>>483964759That's literally what they're made to do. Fuck over all the good builds in the base game which now means that the offmeta builds are going to sufferI didn't even realize until I got to Radahn and heard about the Sekiro Tear you got at the start of the game that they literally balanced the game with the belief you wanted to play Sekiro in the DLC lmao
>she cared about Elden Shit lore
>>483964918>From isn't going to be able to come up with any iconic characters
>>483964217who cares it's just a fancy thrust outside of twinblades
>>483964419>I see the logic, while with other incantation you summon new body parts to attack, you summon wings to boost you weapon. Actually makes more sense as an AoW>I see the logic, while with the other incantations you alter your body, the new one makes you alter your bodynigga we serious?
>>483965026im so happy they didnt touch her in the dlc
>might have to change build just to beat RadahnBut... then I wouldnt have beaten the game :/
>>483964621Because St Trina is miquella's good side, we read beforehand that he fast away his love
>>483964884He was never an equal.He wouldn't be able to ascend to Godhood in the first place if it weren't for us killing everything and burning the thorns. I guess we just wanted to bash his head in.>>483964961They advertised the "lore" and "worldbuilding" as an important aspect of the game. Even calling GRRM in.
>>483965053Because it looks bitchin and I want to use it without using my AoW slot?
>directs you into the lair of some monstrosity that attacks on sight>you kill it>NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO HOW COULD YOUWhat the fuck was this trannoid's master plan?
>>483965109While I'm going to say that the lore is probably the most important part of any rpg I play>even brought GRRM inThis is a point against them not for them
>>483965026Even as a Ranni enjoyer, she's iconic because she's one of the few girls in their entire series that A. likes you, and B. doesn't get fucking obliterated for cheap emotional damage to sell how edgy and depressing the world isBasically every single girl in FromSoft history would reach Ranni status if they were given the chance (plus Welsh accent helps)
>>483964020>no damagewhat the fuck is endure this broken?
>>483965128that you get killed
Have they patched in seamless co op yet? My partner and I are waiting to play the game.Thanks and God bless.
>>483965062I was pretty clear on the logic anon, if you are going to be a faggot and do le ebin misenterpretation greentext I'm gonna leave you to seethe and cope alone
>>483965128>that attacks on sightPresumably it doesn't attack anyone else on sight but we're playing Dark Souls 4 so we can't have actual talking or sharing of motivations
>>483964257we can assume that those are all the things he tried to save malenia and fix godwyn and they failed, and the only thing he had left was to become a god and see if that gives him the power to.none of this is mentioned, though. we don't know his motivations other than...wanting to be a god and radahn being his wife.
>>483964302From his favorite hentai tomes.
>don't give Redmane Waifu the letter>she is alive and safe>happy>didn't get her shield>mfw
>>483965218You can't google that yourself? Fuck you.
I need my lava ring back.
>>483963875'ate hornsent'ate demigods'ate omens (not racist just don't like 'em)'ate the Golden OrderLuv me wifeSimple as.
>>483963875Isn’t it romantic that either we burn Melina to death or she kills us?
>>483965093Bro before you do any big changes, increase your endurance and toss on heavier armor + at least the dragonshield charm. I did the same thing but got to keep my build the same (though I wasn't really allowed to cast any spells on the side in the fight which is gay)Those things were what got me over the edge when I was otherwise running my head into the brick wall that was twink on giant guy
>>483965187Welsh accents are disgusting
Can you get Verdigris shield early? Kinda sucks you gotta wait until the very end of the DLC
I've seen on both the wiki and videos show that the sword of night and claws of night only having requeriments in str and dex.But I could swear I saw them requiring some int as well
>>483964621Anon my tarnished is a semi-feral retard who only really understands violence and shiny things. Trina's words were lost on him, he did however understand that Miquella's followers and consort tried to hit him which was more than enough for him to consider murder to be the next appropriate step.
>>483965128He wanted you to get killed by Metyr so he could glimpse into her and get informationYou were supposed to be a sacrifice
>>483965298Marika's tits...
>>483965214>Increases all absorptions by 45%Yes.>>483965246>radahn being his wife.Mega based.
Here's your Miquella/Radahn fanart
>>483965298>Marikaposter>'ate the Golden OrderAnon I...
>>483965026ranni is only "iconic" because you would have to be a lobotomite to not be able to follow and finish her questline, which is effectively the first fully fleshed out questline you do on a first playthrough along with having the waifu ending attached to her. she is literally only "iconic" because the only competition she has non-existent
>>483965325Nia or Ranni calling you a faggot would give you a boner, don't care what you say
>>483964627What are Sir Ansbach's later rewards?Killing him with leda gets you his bow and armor - that's not nothing
>>483965216How would that further his agenda? With Rykard/Tanith it's kinda understandable assuming Rykard/The Serpent gets stronger the more strong warriors it consumes but what's the motive here?>>483965369What do you mean "glimpse into her"? Glimpse what?
>>483964257They don't, they are several projects that Miquella had ongoingPeople can do more than one thing at the time anon
>>483964001>Inherent the frenzy flame to use your own body as kindling sparing her life>wake up In Farum Azula>Discard the frenzy flame (which can only be done in Farum Azula)Bam save her life and have a good ending, she shouldn't have doubted the tarnished plansIt should be one of the canon endings really
I never played DS, only Sekiro. Do you really suppose to roll around like a retard? In Sekiro the main mechanic is deflect and it looks super cool, here I roll with a giant sword and full body armor like a fucking roly poly, this looks visually shitty and feels very cheesy because I become unkillable god for 0.3 seconds which is completetly idiotic. A giant ass hammer hit me in the face and I can't even see my body through it? No problem! I just rolled lol! Why people like this mechanic and why it looks so bad in the "Game of the year"? What's the point in becoming an Elden lord if I can just roll my whole life in invincible frames?
>Divine Beast is guarding a door into the city>you get teleported past it anywayWhy? Despite setting it up as a mystery after your first boss kill of the dlc, and also making Divine Beast not mandatory as a result?
>>483965392Based Radahn Hammer and Mickle
>>483965443>How would that further his agenda?so he can become a real woman
>>483964257Miquella literally discarded everything that made him. Did you not play the game?
What are some good spells to cast before/starting fights? I have a STR/INT build for cold weapons and not really feeling the impact of the INT much. I love glintblade phalanx but they get broken by fog doors. Greatbow is useful sometimes.
>>483964257Miquella has a lot of ongoing projects because he's got a child brain despite being smart
>>483965542>Do you really suppose to roll around like a retard?No. Use a shield, dumbass. This is an RPG game with equipment slots. Fill them with stuff that helps you.
>>483965418It's as explicit as it ever gets with these games that Marika's entire objective when she shattered the Elden Ring was to destroy the Golden Order.
>>483965392>Makes worst fucking pair everMohg and Miquella had it's charm.
>>483964537>>483964570lmao I managed to get past the stealth area by sprinting and rolling away from the madness cunts and chugging flasksI don't know where I am or how close I've gotten to whatever's at the end of this area but at least I got a new grace
>>483965559A lot of the bosses are optionalIf I'm not mistaken you can just rush Messmer > Romina > Final bossthat's it
trinas fruits full of nectar
>>483965630Terra Magica is your big buff spell. Int as a whole mostly focuses on DPS. What spells do you have on you?
>>483965443>With Rykard/Tanith it's kinda understandable assuming Rykard/The Serpent gets stronger the more strong warriors it consumesIt still doesn't make much sense since she didn't try to feed Bernahl to him who in his own right is a very formidable warrior. Why just us?
>>483965559because the dlc budget was all spent on making textures for empty areas so they couldn't spend any actually thinking of the plot
>>483965542You can thank Bloodborne and Dark souls 3 for that, back in the old days roll spamming was a lot less viable.But the real super power in Elden Ring is the jump button since it removes the hitbox from your lower torso and legs even before you've left the ground and last a full second.If you prefer the sekiro mechanic, there's a Physique in the DLC that lets you do perfect parries for 3 minutes.
>>483965679Need me a pale carian princess wife
>>483965679>I will fix him!>still a seething ball of mommy issuesRenalla FAILED
>>483965679Why is Messmer x Relanna so popular compared to everything else?
>>483965774>she didn't try to feed Bernahl to himhe wasn't ripe yet
Shadow of the Erdtree isn't 'rushed' but it definitely wasn't planned from the beginning. Bamco must have shit themselves after the base game sold so well and demanded a big DLC expansion shortly after release. So From scrambled to put one together using whatever assets and backstory they could come up with.
>>483965297>lava doesn't even deal real damage anymorestop crying
>>483965726>gave her soft plump tits>removed her soft plump lipsFucking artists
>>483965659>A billion different people would mindless follow a kid, even his sister wouldn't slap some sense into himI don't know. Feels weird.>Actually they are ALL brainwashed. Including his sister.So he could charm EVERYONE but didn't do it? Not even Radahn? Maybe he could've turned into a horse?
man the claws of night actually fuck. excellent peppering potential at mid range. new favorite pvp weapon acquiredthis is at +9 and not even using the throwing weapon talisman, it tends to gib people at point blank range
>>483965325https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5FHxv5iCggc
>>483964556Shit internet and miserable crab bucket culture.
>>483965338they're dex onlyb at +10
>>483965882100% No doubt they had already started on the next game after ER launch as well
>>483965665So Goldmask's ending is actually cucked? Or does it fix the things that Marika thought were wrong with the order?
>>483965726No. Kys. Trina's a cute loli.
what's with every nigger under the sun call anything and everything "reused asset"radahn is not a reused assett from the base game, he doesn't have the same model not the same moveset, just because it's the same character doesn't make it a reused asset
>>483965665More like it was explicitly a certified woman moment when she became overcome with grief from her favorite son Godwyn getting assassinated.The whole reason she established the golden order was so that she would never have to see someone she loved die again, and then it happened anyways (Thanks Ranni).
So let me get this straight, the whole Miquella's plan depends on>the tarnished killing Radahn>the tarnished killing Mohg even though that's completely optional and he's not even a contender for the Elden Lord throne>killing Messmer even though he's not a threat to the Lands Between or Elden Lord and doesn't give any fucks about anything anyway>after all that Miquella has to ascend to godhood and presume this assures his victory, even with other gods and godlike figures out there that would oppose him>he still dies like a bitch without a single word in the endSomehow people convinced themselves this garbage is anything beyond your standard japanese writing where there's always a stronger villain for your shonen protagonist. Really the more you think about it, the worse it gets.
>>483965026Do people care about her anymore? What with no new content? Same with Solaire. These characters are dead, gone, to be forever unused again. Ranni was a good girl though. Rya was better.
>>483965961Goldmask enshrines the Golden Order and makes no sure no one can fuck with it again.
Why didn't Marika send the mountaintop of the giants to the shadow realm anyway? That seems like something she'd want hidden.
Post your skibidi level that you ended up with by naturally exploring. >17
>>483965736I just wanna throw my cold smithscript hammer and cast some bullshit to make that easier. Currently I'm not really using spells besides phalanx/loretta greatbow/shard spiral. STR/FTH is more suitable for my build but I wanna try something different.
>>483966001he just like me fr>>483966040not every character needs to be reused ad infinitum to be memorable, though it's okay when Patches does it
>>483966040https://x.com/Redpostit101/status/1806734305240011257>72k likes
>>483965859Nah, Bernahl clearly knew what was going on. He didn't even question it. He knew what having an audience with Rykard meant.
>>483964556CCP permafucked the economy. Niggas are taking their anger out on each other and on the web.
Is there a way to stop the camera from tilting down when locked-on?It's driving me nuts, I can't see shit around me
>>483964257I watched some theory guy and he made sense, so here's what I know/learned/believe>Unalloyed Needle is MIquella's attempt to cure the rot; Leda's golden needles AoW remove both statuses on the target and the needle at least abated the rot bitch in the DLC for a bit>Haligtree is Miquella's attempt to create an Erdtree to share around his own grace like Marika did, but an Erdtree is literally a "divine tree". The blood he used to grow it, presumably the same as what Marika did for hers, wasn't a god's blood. Just a half-god's an Empyrean, which are the prerequisite to becoming a god. Since he wasn't a god, the tree died even if it lived for a while>he leaves to become a god because being a god is the only way he can think of to copy Marika but with a less-shitty world/probably recreate another Erdtree>becoming a God requires being an Empyrean which only three characters are, he's one of them. Then you go through the Divine Door at the end of the game. And you also need a consort for some reason. Ranni did the same thing; she's an Empyrean, got a consort (you, as Lord, which is basically in service to the god), and as a result becomes a god in the ending>Miquella probably wanted the strongest as his consort. Godwyn was the only other candidate besides Radahn, even Malenia wasn't strong enough, but Godwyn got killed off permanently via Destined Death so only Radahn is allowed>and if the retarded thing about him not being in the cocoon wasn't a retcon, then the only real explanation is that he went to offer Radahn the chance to become his consort and Radahn rejected him, and he stayed on the battlefield and refused to even see Miquella because he knew about being charmed, so Miquella sent Malenia as a tactical nuke to kill Radahn off and kidnap his soul instead, then slapped it in Mohg's body, who all along was meant to be a puppet for RadahnAlthough it's all theory, I mostly agree with what I heard
>>483965431>playing xenoblade dubthat's cringe
>>483965852Otomes can self insert as Rellana to fuck the tragic bad boy.Coomers can self insert as Messmer to fuck the obsessed big tiddy carian girl
i can't remember how to get to gaius AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
>>483966005Translation:>WAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAH THE GIRLY LITTLE BOY WANTED CHAD THUNDERCOCK AND NOT ME MAMA GIVE ME MY DILATOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOR
>>483966103>elden lordcan ranni fags please at least understand the ending they got
>>483966103i thought twitter hates AI slop
>>483964556You'd be pretty miserable if you lived under the CCP as well.
Actually love that lil smithscript axeAbsolute monster at 80 faith and elemental infusedWith only 6 scadu levels and throw/two hand talismans I'm dealing near 1800 damage per throw
>>483966005The plot doesn't make sense.If it weren't for us, his team made of people who hate each other would need to kill a total of 3 demigods.>Weakened Radahn (who still needed to have a festival to kill him)>Mohg (NIHIL, his army, outer god powered)>Messmer (Is able to solo a divine beast, entire region has his army)Don't forget that demigods are stronger and a tier above everything else. Even the 300 banished knights under Godrick (runt of the litter) have no choice but kneel before him.>Why didn't he just told Mohg to kill himselfGood question.>Why didn't he ask for his strong sister to do it for himGood question.
>>483966005Malenia was meant to kill Radahn and presumably Mohg too but met her match.Miquella had meta-knowledge of the Tarnished being a gamer who was going to beat every boss in the game, but failed to realize that included him
>>483964556I don't understand why I see their messages constantly but not once have I ever co-oped with or invaded them.
>>483966094There aren't many things in terms of buffs, unfortunately. I'd recommend throwing at least one moon at the enemy so that you can do more magic damage.
>>483966250go through church district, up into specimen storehouse, explore upwards into the rafters, find a lift on the outside of the castle that takes you down (i think?)
3 crystalis aren't fun at all. Without proper damage they are too spongy.
>>483965559Because of the skibidi system. Lion is tuned to be a starter boss, so by the time you kill Romina and burn the tree you've out scaled it so hard it wouldn't even be s fight anymore. It would be like coming back to kill Godrick after beating Maliketh.
>>483966450Where are you located?
>doesn't birth big hands during the fight, only the small onesI am thoroughly disappointed.
>>483966586australia
>>483966209>Since he wasn't a god, the tree died even if it lived for a whileExcept we are told the reason the tree died is because he was removed from the cocoon.>and as a result becomes a god in the endingWithout having to walk through any gate.>Miquella probably wanted the strongest as his consort.That's where we would join...motherfucker gave us Torrent...I wanted my golden shota...
>>483966089>no replies Don't tell me you guys used guides...
>>483966632Weird. I'm in Europe and I get them constantly.
>>483966617Big hands are just little hands all grown up
>>483966408Actually, correction. I don't think Malenia killing Mohg was part of the plan. She had no idea who or where Mohg was.I still think Mohg kidnapping Miq was a random encounter he never planned for and had no backup to.Why am I thinking about this so much. Miyazacki certainly didn't.
>>483966617I for one am glad I don't have to deal with Big Fingercreepers and their bullshit prison spell or god forbid the Colossal Fingercreepers in the Mountaintops
>>483966089i'm currently at level 17, still didn't explore the rauh ruins
>>483966543your fault for not bringing a strike weapon
>>483965852It has yume appeal which was an uncatered to demographic
>>483966082that's not how it works.she could put up another suppression field over the mountaintop to cloud it in shadow. but, morgott had that locked down and there was only one way there, so there likely wasn't a need.
>>483966682I don't know, I'm probably done with like 70% of the DLC and I'm still sitting at 11 but I probably have enough scooby snacks to get to at least 16.
>fully charged point blank flame spear does about as much damage as a normal r1did they forget to give this scaling
>>483966673He comes out of the gate you fucking retard
>>483966726The DLC actually makes sense if Mohg is just a pedo and Miquella tries to become a god so that he does the impossible (bringing Godwyn back), just those two things fix this diarrhea of writing
>>483966407>Why didn't he just told Mohg to kill himselfWe haven't seen any evidence that he can convince someone to kill themselves, probably goes against the whole compassion aspect of his powers even if he can mindbreak and hide memories.>Why didn't he ask for his strong sister to do it for himShe actually succeeded, even if she didn't manage to kill Radahn she still infected him with Scarlot rot, giving and outer god influence over him and likely tainting him enough to be sent to the shadow realm.Remember you can't go to the shadow realm if you have grace, it's why Miquella needed to get completely tainted by Mohg so the Mother of Truth would corrupt him and he'd end up in the shadow realm rather than getting recycled by the erdtree.Radahn would have died at some point regardless due to rot, we just happened to expedite the process, everyone else was in a stalemate.And I'm pretty sure Miquella convinced Mohg to hunt for tarnished, explicitly to try and piss of a stronger enough warrior to kill him off.Killing Mesmer really seems like the biggest obstacle, but considering no one outside the realm of shadow knew about him, Miquella probably didn't either, which is why he summons a bunch of tarnished hoping one of them can get the job done.
>>483966820I don't even understand how to play this game.
>>483965890Following an innocent and benevolent child god seems appealing in the Lands Between
>>4839660890.
Did anyone find the cross where Miquella abandoned his intelligence?
>>483965852Messmer is a failure with mommy issues, 18 inches, snakesRellana with two moons as tits, "moon and fire together"
>>483966901>lore seething post>look inside>GodwynfagsEvery single time, Godwyniggers will be asspained forever>muh prince of deathcope
>>483966407He probably didn't ask her for fear of her fucking up in a grand fashion a second time. As for Mohg trying to get him to kill himself might've resulted in the formless mother stepping in since he's basically her champion. For all we know the mother may have tolerated the mind control since the blood still flowed, but her strongest warrior being mind fucked into killing himself as opposed to simply being overpowered and slain might encroach enough onto her turf that it wouldn't be tolerated.
>>483966953hit stuff until it diesdon't get hitgit gud
>>483964556reminder that they literally had a strike because they disallowed cheating in school. chinese people are taught very early on that the road to success is through lying, cheating and manipulating - in every aspect of life. it's the same mentality that makes russians absolutely fucked in the head.https://qz.com/96793/chinese-students-and-their-parents-fight-for-the-right-to-cheat
>>483966872Huh? What the fuck are you talking about. That shit deals like twice as much damage as a fully charged Colossal heavy.Are you trying to use it with STR with Fire infusion? It's like Blackflame Tornado. It only scales with faith/flame art.
>>483964054Miquella/Radahn is a fake ship, Miquella just wants him for his strength. I genuinely don't think anyone actually buys it.
>>483966617What level of roast beef are we on? That pussy is at least the size of the player character.
>>483966989you can find it near the one where your father abandonned you you dipshit
>>483966407There are ways to rewrite the plot so it actually does make a bit of sense, which makes me serious think that things were horribly, horribly retcon'd.>Land of Shadows is instead linked to Godwyn, being a dreamlike world where dead and discarded things wind up. It is more ancient then him, as ancient as the Lands Between themselves. >Miquella is an NPC akin to Ranni.>The plan is to cause an eclipse of the Erdtree, to bring back his Lord Brother Godwyn's soul from beyond the Gates of Divinity.>Mohg wasn't part of the plan. The Haligtree failed because his love curse caused Mohg to steal him away before he could take a new form.>Miquella has no physical body. He is like Ranni, without even a puppet body. More like the Lion for Godfry. He would "travel" with you.>Melenia's whispered words to Radahn were discovered to be "I am Malenia - and I have never known defeat.">Mesmer is still around, he is a discarded child of Marika. Maybe even still born.>The final battle takes place by the gates of divinity, fighting a recently revived Godwyn as death blight causes an eclipse of the Erdtree.>The Skibi tree doesn't exist. The Erdtree is visible in the Land of Shadows and is being consumed by Death Blight.
>>483966543>zero effort gank isn't fun
>>483967016That's because we stick to the premise of Miquella trying to bring someone back from the dead, Godwyn is the only candidate aside from Radahn you absolute imbecile. Malenia was meant to be healed, not killed
>>483966209This seems like a ton of fanfiction
>>483967130>muh prince of deathYour headcanon is shit and I'm glad it didn't happen
>>483965852Het ship between a big titty spellblade lovestruck by her emo sadboy master. It appeals to everyone.
>>483967162it's fun to squash them though
Who are more insufferable: Godwynfags or Miquellafags?
>>483965852Crazy strong royal bitch from a family with at least three examples showing that the women fall in love pretty hard. Angry sad guy with mommy issues from a rival faction. The fics write themselves.
why is romina so fucking cute
>>483965665No it was not, she wanted to break the golden order away from the greater will, the age of fracture is straight up that and thats the ending you reach if you just followbthe main plot(I.e Marika's guidence)
>>483967295Both.
Do you need thollier's concoction for anything aside from dateraping the dragon priestess?Because he gave me one for free, but he's selling another.
>>483967163Godwyn's soul was erased from existence you absolute fucking retard. He is so dead that in the Golden Epitaph description Miquella didn't even try to revive, he was trying to kill his body. Godwyn's story is complete and he has an entire ending dedicated to him in the DLCYour shitty gary stu rot mermaid eill get nothing, cope and seethe
>>483967295People who defend this horseshit dlc
>>483966673>Except we are told the reason the tree died is because he was removed from the cocoon.Everything about the cocoon is either retconned or bullshit, so take your pick. If it was intended from the beginning, Miquella and the cocoon were all a ruse from the very beginning; Miquella was walking around saving people, like Freya, which is the only way her story makes sense. The cocoon never mattered. The cocoon was a shitpost between Miquella and his hypnotized/charmed-Mohg. The reason the tree died is because he's not a god and therefore has no grace to share nor to rejuvenate the tree with. It only even grew because he met a handful of the requirements, but not the most important one>Without having to walk through any gateThe "divine gate" is presumably left there by some other god in some way. Ranni used a different God's route, but Miquella is following his mother's, and she followed the two fingers>That's where we would joinIf the DLC was part of the base game instead of after everyone had already beaten it, story wise Miquella would be going on his quest in the shadow lands as soon as we kill Radahn, since him holding back the stars is a major plot point that stops every major player in the story from doing anything. So Miquella wouldn't even know who the fuck we are until we meet him at the end>>483967206The entire DLC is fanfiction dude
>>483967125Aw baby who hurt you?
>>483967295Miquellafags DESU
>>483967225>>483967206no one cares and no one is talking with you freaks. Just explaining how shit the lore is and what the original plan seemed to be as an outsider. You animals are just repeating the same shit godwyn meme over and over - you're not worth the time. Other anons are.
Why do FROM chatacters have such weird proportions?Radagon looks good, but Messmer and Miquella are Saladfinger-tier like what the fuck?It wasn't this bad in DS3
>>483967130The cut content proved the final boss was meant to be malenia not godwyn. We have proof godwyn was never meant to be anything but a living corpse. Let it go. It's over.
>>483967073I wasn't expecting it but I'll take it.
>>483967119>What level of roast beef are we on?"I'm ready to settle down" level, bordering on "why can't I find a good man?"
>>483967348You say all that thinking you owned me, while all you're left with is a recycled boss encounter that got mixed reception at best, you're eating shit anyway
>>483964050still fucks me up that this dude is weak to pierce, not strike damage.
>>483967356Fanfiction would be better then the retcon farce we got. It's insulting how poorly written the DLC was. Like, legit, the people who defend it or think it's acceptable are actually retarded. You have to have a learning disability to think the plot works.It's THAT bad.
>>483967475>Well we Godwynbros didn't like it, so it had a shit receptionThe more Godwynfags seethe, the better the lore is
>>483967491Big clunky costume guard against bonk, no guard against sharp poke
>>483967491why would two nakes dudes be weak to strike?
>>483966875Read the post before replying. He's talking about Ranni's ending.>>483966913>Why didn't he ask for his strong sister to do it for himI'm talking about everything else. Messmer, Mohg. She helped us with Radahn, yes. But at the end of the day we were the ones who killed him off.>Remember you can't go to the shadow realm if you have grace, it's why Miquella needed to get completely tainted by Mohg so the Mother of Truth would corrupt him and he'd end up in the shadow realm rather than getting recycled by the erdtree.That sounds like a headcanon. But also, if his body was already corrupted and he lost grace, why would he abandon it again later on?>Telling Mohg to kill himself is no-no, but telling him to hunt down other Tarnished is okayNot following the logic here...what about the compassion aspect?>Considering no one outside the realm of Shadow knew about himRadahn and Gaius studied together in Sellia and both were friends to Messmer.>>483967295>You can't point the flaws in the story you cared aboutHow much are they paying you?>>483967356>The entire DLC is fanfiction dudeUnfortunately.
>>483967356It's the canon events let it go
Spanking Miquella for ruining the DLC
How the heck do you get to the red area!?!?
>>483967574Asking the real questions
>>483965852>twin moons symbolise big tits>snake enveloping a body is a phallic symbolIt's all coming together.
>>483967536Cope Godwynigger lmao
>>483967634From the dragon area, just climb over the big dragon corpse.
>>483967286I guess. They're basically just basic enemies by endgame afterall.Rather my point was that multiboss fights have never been a strong point of souls games.You can't just slap together two enemies and call it a boss, they need to be made specifically to complement each other and have combat interactions. Especially when you put them in arenas big enough to cheese the ai by separating them.Otherwise what's the difference between a boss fight and a dungeon crawl? Might as well call the path between chelona's tower and alecto's jail a boss as well. Or the walk between the remembrance elk temple and the twin gargoyles.
>>483967536Reminds me of this
I think the godwynfag seethe is great. Remember there files were scrubbed through and the original final boss was meant to be malenia. We know this for a fact now. Godwyn never mattered. He was there to die. That's it.
>>483964128>draw a girl>call it a guy
>>483967573Ever bang your bare shin or ankle against the side of a scooter as a kid in the summer? Now imagine that but the scooter is the size of a minifridge and being swung at you by a freak of nature who can heft it around like its the size of a ballpeen hammer.
>>483967702How do you get to the dragon area
>>483967412The downward spiral started with bloodborne, now this is a boss design!
Never letting go. My FTH is maxed. I am the shadow of the gentlest Empyrean.
>>483967545Needing to make up silly names for people that are smarter then you is really stupid. I can't wait for all these right wing boomers to die out so that shit can finally stop and we can start having intelligent conversations again.
>spent 3 hours exploring the boring southern part of the map>only get a few skibidi fragments
>>483967130>Place where all death ends up at>The Prince of Death is not present:^)>umshs acstually the lore making no sense is good because people complain lol my personality is being a retarded contrarian i know it's 8 am but let me shitpost i have nothing to do in my life>>483967723>Remember there files were scrubbed through and the original final boss was meant to be malenia. We know this for a fact now.Source?
>>483967491Fromsoft logic is that meat is strong vs strike, while armour is weak to it.
>>483967739through the dragon dungeon
>>483967536They don't think it's acceptable they think you're annoying and people will immediately support the other side of you annoy them enough.
>>483967720Yaoi/BL stories are some of the best written things out there though
>>483967738Fug, meant for >>483967574
>>483967859Shut up, fujo.
>>483967829Iunno what that is
>>483967356>The entire DLC is fanfiction dude
>>483967574it doesn't look like two naked dudes it looks like a big mechanical lion. i thought it was more like a possessed construct.
>>483967312The Greater Will was irrelevant and had been for millennia. It wasn't in Marika's calculus. This was already clear in the base game when Enia all but admitted the Fingers were making shit up and the GW was completely laissez faire. But the DLC made it even more so. Her actual objective was destroying the Order through the Elden Beast. >It was the vassal beast of the Greater Will and living incarnation of the concept of Order.The Elden Beast is textually confirmed to be the Order. Marika tried to fight it and got BTFO, which is the entire reason we find her hanging from a Rune Arc in the same pose the Elden Beast's grab puts you in. We know from Hewg's dialogue that he was tasked by Queen Marika to forge a weapon capable of killing a God. As it happens you get a "GOD FELLED" message when you kill the Elden Beast. To make it even clearer, Radagon in Japanese is not "Radagon of the Golden Order" but "The Golden Order, Radagon" which textually confirms what was already visually implied - the Radagon you fight is the Elden Beast puppeting him around. The last element is that we know that the Golden Order was created from Marika plucking Destined Death from the Elden Ring as the foundational act of her regime. When you kill Maliketh you unseal the Rune of Death, undoing the cornerstone of the Golden Order. Half the bedrock is undone by this act, the other is done in when you kill the Elden Beast.
>>483967859Malenia or Ranni, who's posting?>>483967779:)
>>483967809There's a godwyn head in the dungeon with the death knight axe guy
>>483966617They would literally die on spawn from her constant aoes.The small ones managed to avoid a couple, the big ones would have chance.
Rellana is the first scrap titfags have been given since gwynevereEven if it is headcanon
Why didn't Miquella just marry his sister?
If metyr birthed the two fingers, doesn't that mean that there's a frenzy mom of the three fingers somewhere?
>found every cross>Beat all the non respawning optional encounters>Explored every corner, nook and cranny of the map>38 skibidiHOW DID I MISS SO MANYWHAT THE FUCK
>>483967738By this logic they need to be weak to everything but that would be gaypierce is the best damge as long as you don't deal with armor and as mentioned above the suit likely cushions things too
Can't wait for the Vaati glazing tbqhbbqlgbt+
>>483967356>The entire DLC is fanfiction dudePretty much. It's like watching how GoT turned out. It might be official, but nobody will take it seriously.
>>483967073They loved eachother. Cope. You'll never have the love they had. You'll never be loved like how radahn was by miquella. You'll never be loved like how miquella was by radahn. You will never have your own consort.
I did NOT expect Miquella to be the true rapist in the story when the base game painted Mohg as the rapistExpectations subverted
Are there any games that are like the earlier DS trilogy with more of a focus on slower deliberate combat instead of rollslop trying to make me have a stroke (Radahn)
>>483967914Damn, that sucks dude. Lol.
IWANTTOF U C KST TRINAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
>>483968010ayy lmao
Why am I so viscerally attracted to Metyr's gaping pussy
>>483967857u mad>>483967809It's some of the worst fucking writing ever. For what it matters, there is some Godwyn stuff in Shadows of the Erdtree. Also some GEQ stuff that was renamed. The Putrescence Knight, for example, is a QEG thing was that renamed. I imagine she was going to have a huge impact on the DLC. >Planned content for Mesmer and his sister Melina, AKA the reborn Gloam Eyed Queen. Or at least a better explanation of it all.
>>483968052It's taken seriously by everyone except salty Godwynfags and people who are still mad about they tought the leaks were fake, who are both subhuman groups that don't matter in the slightest
>>483968030Stop posting this picture. It's lust inducing.>>483968006Incest is wr- Wait.>>483968060Miquella is now here...
>>483965852Messmer is really popular with women. He appeals to the same sadboy "I can fix him" instinct that Morgott did in the base game (seriously look up the Elden Ring fics on AO3 Morgott is the most popular character on there by far).
>>483967878I like Miquwlla's whole writing and plan my biggest issue is how Malenja is tied into it, and how it seems a little weird that if he liked Radahn for his kindness, then why would he be okay with resurrecting him with Mohg's soul? Though like I think it can be sad and good if that's the point that that's why he wanted Radahn at first but then it became more of a prize of possession and for his strength by the emd>>483967975Hehehehehe
>>483968021>the suit likely cushions things tooThat's why you aim for the ankles and knees. Let them experience the pain of childhood summer. Let them realize why grown men have a healthy fear of razor scooters.
>>483968018Did you kill the ghost beetles
>>483968018You likely missed the pot guys. I swear to christ they are random spawn chance.
what is the point of putting radahn's soul into mohg's body when mind control leads to the same effect anyway, just put any random literal who hollow's soul into radahn's dead body for the same results
>>483968107It better be in front of Thiollier.
>>483968006Malenia is rotted to shit so any world with her as god or consort would be part of the Rot God's domain instead of Miquella's, doesn't represent what Radahn does (strength and kindness towards is soldiers, tl;dr the 'just leader' Miquella would want to take care of the world in his stead). and it probably also has something to do with the fact that Malenia is also an Empyrean in the process of becoming a god via blooming three times
why does every you don't have the right message have hundreds of ratings? Are redditors doing this?
Tholier's concoction; I only found the guy after I spoke to Moore and he disappeared, I guess locking him out from giving me the black syrup.Is it possible for people to drop it?
>>483968096Please please please please please please please please please please helpppp
>>483968010No. The Two Fingers are corporeal but the Three Fingers are literally just an apparition of congealed flame. The form the flame took was fingers just because the beckoners intuitively knew the form to be holy.
>>483968152>tought the leaks were fake>tought>calls other people subhumanof course.
I can only imagine that the Divine Gate is some sort of alternate terminal for the Elden Ring, since it's where Marika found her Great Rune. Why didn't Miquella just go get the thing itself though? Why go through the hassle of the Land of Shadows and discarding all his being and his power?
>>483968176why do rotten women exist?
>>483968269he's a spicspics are worth just as much as horniggers
>>483968191He wants Radahn's soul because Radahn represents the qualities. The God of the world/the actual user of the Elden Ring shares grace around the world and defines the world's order, but the Lord/Consort is the one that actually rules it and acts as a barrier/intemediary between the god and the world. Radahn is picked for both his strength and his character. No one else was as good as he was in both in Miquella's eyes
>>483967710multiboss fights have sucked dick because the majority of them don't have multiboss tuned AI. This itself wouldn't be a problem if the camera in these games didn't suck dick. But it does, so it's shit.
>>483968176Malenia is canonically a fujoshi. That's why she went along with it.
>>483967970Different anon but just to add to this.The Greater Will fucked off long ago, Metyr has been stringing everyone along to try and maintain the status queue after her dad (The greater will) left.My money is still on the Greater will leaving after Bayle and Placidussax fought, Hyetta's lines about the Greater Will making a mistake, make a lot more sense in the context of imperfect dragons starting to appear because the elden ring introduced the concept of life and death to the Ancient Dragons.Placidussax was the first Elden Lord after all.
rolldex/int 0-2dex/fth 3-5str/fth 6 -8strint 9
>>483968215If you put down a message on launch day it's guaranteed to hit 9999.
>>483968235explore you fucking lost cause
>>483968217Probably not.
>Lore implies that rot has a good side, with pickling and fermentation.>Miquella has a bunch off eggs in the Haligtree that aren't hatched.>Wants his brother back.>Heavy hints that Miquella is working on a way to "rebrith" people via some sort of chrysalis.>Heavy hints about fixing his mothers mistake.>Heavy hints that births are all messed up after DD was locked away.God, what could have been.
>>483968396enjoy uhhh mesmers spear i guess, theres nothing else
>>483968269I accept your concession Godwynfag
>>483968346>This itself wouldn't be a problem if the camera in these games didn't suck dick.Is there any action game whose camera doesn't suck?At some point people just have to realize that either we don't have the programming ability to make good cameras, or the problem is actually how the bosses or arena, rather than the camera, behave.
>>483968235After Ensis head south west and take the high road.
>>483968176He's resurrecting Radahn with Mohg's body, not soul. Radahn is basically just getting his physical body nerfed by being put into another demi-god's body, but it's still RadahnRadahn was both the strongest entity in Elden Ring's lore (unless a new player is revealed) since he conquered the stars, meaning he shat on all the gods trying to rule his world, but he's also a kind ruler whose followers all respected him enough to fight to the death in a rot-filled shithole. So he's the best leader in Miquella's eyes
>>483968517Ninja gaiden.
>>483968361That makes sense, I guess I disliked it because it seemed like she was just doing it because if the love charm and I prefer her actually doing it out of her normal love, but I guess it could be either and there like is some sadness out of it being the manipulated way>>483968440I have been, I didn't even know there were dungeons in the dlc I can't find any
>>483968147You're so mad holy shit
>>483968481>Oh brother please die a true deathMiquella is not delusional enough to think Godwyn can come back from having his soul killed unlike you Godwyntranny
>>483968548Never played it, but Nioh's camera sucks dick the same as every other action game. Hard to imagine they got worse over time rather than better.
>>483968571>I have been, I didn't even know there were dungeons in the dlc I can't find anyconsidering they are all over the place, you obviously haven't
I think the main problem is that people genuinely convinced themselves this man can do no wrong and he genuinely has that Midas touch. So when something comes out that challenges that notion, people would rather bend backwards and defend it with their life. The alternative is to embrace the very uncomfortable fact that your favorite, almost perfect developer can be as clueless as other shitters in this god forsaken industry. Do you really believe an average consumer can handle this realization?Let's be real, these games only appeared special because everything else is mostly pure garbage in an endless ocean of garbage that is the video game industry.
>>483968298The Divine Gate is the Crucible. The Hornsent made it by systematically exterminating all life in the lands between and stuffing it into jars, then dumping all the putrified flesh wads into one place. It's super concentrated life energy, recycled from actual living things.This is the power Marika took to become a Goddess. The Great Runes came later, as a means of structuring and ordering this power.
>>483968612>Hard to imagine they got worse over time rather than betterIf only you knew how bad things really are.
>>483968540>Strongest Demi God.>Winds up brainless, eating dead corpses and shitting on himself.>Malenia just gets carried to a tree so she can chill and wait for her brother.What the FUCK are you people on.
>>483968395I wonder how Metyr is 'broken', and if that is connected to the three fingers. If the GW left when the dragons fought then the GW had no influence over Marika, the Empyreans or their two fingers or their beast shadows like Balidd and Malekith. which would be pretty crazy to all be Metyr
>>483968537Thank you>>483968540Is Radahn in the dlc like clear minded and normal and "him" when brought back? I should probably finish the dlc first before speculating my opinion>>483968627I have, there just aren't any caves or anything like that
Is there any spot in the dlc where you can farm smithing stones 6 ad 7 ?
>>483968395>Young Miquella saw that his bloodline is fucked.>Renounce everything>Still decides to use his brother merged with another brother as a Lord???>>483968481All the symbolism about rot, cleanrot knights and wine were for nothing. We don't even get Dreambrew again...>>483968512>>483968609>Godwyn is mentioned>(You) sperg outWho's seething here?
>pick a high str weapon>heavy infuse>pick str talisman>now you get high str scaling + buffsnahi am good senpai
>>483967970Where's the indication that elden beast is the order. If you kill it how can you be the "lord of the old order" like miquella says or is the dlc before the ending
>>483968395>bayle caused the end of civilization
>>483968710She probably lost the capability to communicate with the GW due to damage from falling from the fucking sky. That's my guess
>>483968583I will never understand you weird right-wing freaks. I'm just glad it's a dying ideology.
>>483968517 Night of Azure (kusoge though it may be), Sword of Etheria, Ninja Gaiden, The camera work is most definitely getting worse in modern games along with UI speedRise of the Ronin has one of the worst cameras in action games I've ever had the misfortune of suffering against and it was (and still is) so monumentally shit that they dramatically reduced how hard enemies push your deflect strings to try and prevent the common scenario of your camera getting smashed into the wall and no longer being able to see shit.Even the fixed cameras of DMC1 were better than this shit. I'd rather like to fucking see what I'm interacting with.
>>483968769no, but you get shitloads of souls from everything so you can just buy as many as you need
>>483968679Radahnfags will never admit he lost
>>483968710Giant finger babe is mentally unstable with daddy/abandonment issues after the Greater Dad left to get a pack of cosmic cigarettes ten thousand years ago
>>483968773You're both seething. You people have been mad at dlc lore since the leaks and have been having the same conversations with eachother since. He's mad because he cant just ignore your post and is too much of a retard ro learn to filter ips
i'm at radahn right now and honestly this feels like a slogi could avoid summoning and lowering his health but i feel like i need others to take his attention or i'll just get pancaked and diehell he did some gravity slam shit and despite being behind him i got oneshot so even then it seems like a crapshoot and i haven't even see phase 2 yet
>>483968679>durr how does a Demi-God lose to a fucking GodI don't know dude. You realize the rot is literally a God's method of intervening in the world and corrupting it much like the Two Fingers and Frenzy Flame and all the other gods did, right?The strongest Demi-God lost to an actual God. Shit happensMalenia did her job of being a rot nuke, then she went back to complete her own transformation to Godhood because that's the entire point of her blooming three times. She's being led to Godhood by the Rot God in the same way Marika was led by Two Fingers>>483968740The first stage of his fight is presumably his husk or something. The second stage is when Miquella found his soul and brings it back
Anyone got black knight gloves and legs for trade? I got helmet and chest. On PS5 if it matters
>>483968668>The Divine Gate is the Crucible.Where was this said? And how can this be the case when the Crucible literally became the Erdtree?
>>483968919collect the skibi fragments
>>483968710>which would be pretty crazy to all be MetyrIt helps when you're the daughter of the literal creator deity of the universe, even the Elden beast is just a vassal and container for the elden ring.My head canon is that the outer gods are various forms of punishment that the greater will sends to the world for sins committed, with the frenzy flame being more of a "burn it all away" reset option since Bayle can't be killed and even if you eat his heart in dragon communion, it doesn't even weaken him and eventually he'll just burst out of you, burning both your soul and body to nothingness.
I am gonna get shit for this, but Elden Ring would seriously benefit from an NPC quest log.t. Dropped the game for a few months and have NO IDEA where I was in the NPC questlines I was working on
>>483968395Are you fucking stupid. The "mistake" that the GW made was creation, that's the whole point of that monologue. The GW split the One Great into all of reality, but the act of creation was a mistake because it allowed for suffering and the frenzy cultists want to undo it and melt everything back into one.
>>483968818Didn't even mention politics. Keep malding
>>483968773>nooooo please destroying me with facts and logicstay mad forever godwyntranny
>>483968776>>483968508forgot to quote you
>>483968920...What? I'm saying she won the fight. Radahn lost. He's just some mindless zombie walking around a wasteland pooping on himself.>>483968870"I am Malenia - And I have never known defeat." like. She won guys. the heck lol
>>483968919the whole point of this dlc was to make no-summon fags kneel
>>483968861I haven't unlocked the area to get the bell yet
I think the problem with having almost all your game lore in vague item descriptions, coupled with a fanbase that has been conditioned through hundreds of hours of lore essays on youtube, leads to people soaking up every tidbit of information they can get and grossly inflating its importance. Fromsoft brought this on themselves by being intentionally vague about everything so nobody knows what piece of information truly matters and what doesn't.I think Fromsoft themselves don't actually have a coherent index of all the lore tidbits and how they connect everywhere, I think they just make descriptions that are vague enough so that multiple interpretations can hold true and then let the fanbase figure it out and make the lore for them.
>this is what Freiya wearsLads I'm gonna sexo.
>>483968919I ran my face into the fight for like 14 hours, refusing to change build and only switching a couple talismans. Went out and farmed a couple skibidis to get from +17 to +18 in desperation, and after an hour of ramming my face some more I got a lucky run and lived by the skin of my teethI was close to saying fuck it and using my mimic tear and I wouldn't blame you if you did. They designed the bosses with the intention of getting you to use everything. This isn't DkS1 anymore where you have a fair duel with bosses. You're literally fighting Sekiro bosses
new player here, greatshield counter is making this game piss easy does it fall off?
>>483969014why would you get shit on, the elden ring sidequest are all retarded, especially with the area reload dogshit they love so much and the DLC only doubles down on it
probably a super obscure question but does the rakasha GK's hyperarmor on its attacks work if i got 0 poise
>>483968964i'm at 16 and i have no idea which ones i lack because i didn't use any set path i just explored the map all over trying to find them all but since i'm lacking 4 that obviously failed
>>483969028But since we now know from two sources that the Greater Will is what gave rise to life, births, souls and individuality, what then created the Frenzy Flame Outer God? Are they too a child of the Greater Will?
am i not supposed to have enough time to get on my fucking horse with commander gaius
>>483967295Me, they wish they were half as obnoxious as myself.
>>483969079>nooooo please destroyingcan't even finish phrases! sad!
>>483969148no, not reallymost of the people who get hard stuck in this game are intentionally gimping themselves in some fashion
>>483969148No.
So how do radahnfans feel knowing that miquella thrusted his massive cock into radahn's massive ass? How do you feel knowing radahn was on his stomach whimpering like the oversized slut he is from miquella meaty member? How do you all feel knowing miquella shot a fountain of cum into radahn filling him to the brim and the second he pulled his cock out his wet, sticky, cum oozed out of radahn's ase like a waterfall. How does it feel? Tell me
whats your favourite spot for testing damage?
>>483969093She was "winning" so hard she did what she never wanted to do and nuke the world with rot lmaoShe's literally getting her shit pushed in. Even in the trailer she's losing to Radahn, he's standing there with his arms cross and letting her put her arm back on because he doesn't give a fuck. Malenia got shat on, she just pulled her last resort and went for scorched earth
>>483968919I think the intention IS to have you summoni mean you arent just fighting prime radahnyou are fighting prime radahn buffed by a literal godit's quite the difference from base game, remember you arent suposed to be a elden lord yet so...
>>483969272Invading people
how's the moonlight greatsword for radahn? i heard it got nerfed this patch
>>483969272I use the troll outside of godrick's boss room
>>483969328The intention is to abuse rolling sparks to three shot radahn in seconds of walking through the fog wall, this is Miyazaki's vision.
>>483969272either the tanky horn enemies at Rauh or the fire knights in Shadow keep
>>483969148You’ll have to learn to dodge eventually because some bosses will hard counter your shield. But for general enemies guard counter is pretty solid.
>>483969328>summon to increase his health>they won't be able to survive since they can't dodge his attacks, meteor or light nukeummm
Like clockwork radahnhomos come try defending their braindead lump of meat
>>483969328>remember you arent suposed to be a elden lord yet so...hol' upi'm a flame face who blew up the world, are you saying i'm time travelling in the dlc?
>>483969029>>483969079This is extremely cringe and pretty much them admitting they're fucking weirdos. Who makes up random titles and thinks it's cool or funny. This is actually retarded. friggen right wingers man it's an actual disease.Also the whole time line of Metyr doesn't really work out at all. The One Great made the universe, becomes the Greater Will and the Frenzied Flame. The Greater Will sends out Metyr. When the fuck does it send the Elden Beast? Why does it take 1000 years for the fingers to respond when it's actually just Metyr? Why does Placi have the same stance as the fingers while trying to commune with his lost god?There is something there but it doesn't quite work.
bros she's cute
>greatshield
>>483969124100%. Instead of having actual debates about the characters, you have their motivations being left to complete interpretation. Even basic facts like what characters want and how they'll get it and how they're where they are is left up for debate. I don't really understand why they stuck to this when Elden Ring is so character-driven. Sekiro and Armored Core have perfectly coherent and clear narratives so why did they go DaS with ER when it needed something like AC/Sekiro instead?
alright the spread crossbow is inefficient as fuck compared to repeating one
>>483969481i mean you get there after mohg so i think """canon""" is you arent elden lord yet...
>>483968191Alexander ate Radahn's body and it would have made for a bad vessel anyways what with it being ravaged by the scarlet rot
>>483969028Thank... thank you... I have touched them.The words of the Three Fingers.As your maiden, allow me to divine them."All that there is came from the One Great.Then came fractures,and births,and souls.But the Greater Will made a mistake.Torment, despair, affliction...every sin, every curse.Every one, born of the mistake.And so, what was borrowed must be returned.Melt it all away, with the yellow chaos flame.Until all is One again."I'm just saying this smells of Memezaki recycling the eternal ancient dragons from dark souls 1, with their offspring being shittier wyverns, especially since they were the first civilization.I don't think we would have all the bad shit would have happened afterwards, if it was just ancient dragons and Placidussax just chilling for all eternity, the dragon civil war seems like it played major role in everything going to hell.
>>483969605It's ok against big bosses and in pvp it can randomly headshot due to the spreadAt first i thought it was shit but it does have uses
>>483969543>mfw she exudes "nectar"
>>483969543i was extremely surprised to not see cute feet sticking out beneath the petals
>>483968919I summoned and stomped him, no regretsI honestly dont see the point in not doing it, the fight is dogshit, boring, visually cluttered and a slog
>>483969481You do the DLC before beating the game dude. You didn't canonically shit on the Elden Beast and then go "wait woops, forgot something", steps from becoming a Lord and helping some other God ascend, to sprint back to Mohg and go fuck the twink because your trap-sense was tinglingCanonically, you're probably doing this shortly after beating Radahn because Miquella had to wait for you to do that because Radahn holding back the stars stopped Miquella from going to the shadow realm
>>483969319We don't really need to fan wank anything. She was fighting Radahn. Her arm fell off, she put it back on. She jumps on top of him and explodes, making Radahn go insane. She then goes home. Radahn lost. It's not like she was bleeding all over the place or on her last legs. She literally jumped on top of the fucker.I like to imagine Radahn was just literally too tough to stab, so she beats him with rot. A win is a win and such.
is lightning just better than magic and fire?
>>483969689SEXOOOOOOO>>483969665>gets raped by malenia>gets eaten by alexander>gets raped by miquella>lost twice to uspoor fuck
>>483969014I liked the idea of NPCs leaving messages on the ground indicating where they intend to go, like they did with Varre moving to the rose church and messages leading the player to Gowry, that way you get some useful pointers while keeping it diagetic and tying it with an existing mechanic.
>>483969550I tried radahn with a greatshield and poke weaponwhat the fuck even is thisobviously I decided to die and do it a more legit waydisgusting and brain dead
>>483969535Don't worry a loretuber will explain it and everyone including people here will pretend it's fantastic lore
>>483969543use your runes anon
>>483969262Stop trying to make me jealous of Radahn
>>483969792Radahn the JOBBER.
>>483969689what's a good build to make use of the priestess heart?
>>483963875Wait… so according to plan, who’s going to kill mogh and radahn (if he doesn’t die soon enough) had we not appeared? Leda and her friends?
>>483969272frogmen at Mohgwyn palace
WOW this is SOOOO fun
621. Got a job for you. Become Elden Lord.
>>483969262Didn't happen. Only the Tarnished experienced his tasty dew.
>>483969791in 90% of scenarios, yes
i'm trying really hard not to respec to a greatshield build for Radahn but they DID drop the verdigris set like right before the boss so maybe they're sending me a message
>>483969550>>483969810people will write long-winded reviews about how fromsoft has lost the plot and that the dlc is just too difficult when options like this still exist and they're also not even summoning ashes because of some bullshit idea they made up in their head about that mechanic being illegitimate
>Miquella doesn't love anymore...except he does?Huh.
>>483969791Lightning has long been the best element in Elden Ring, but it has the fewest good damage sources.
Lads, please give me a honest opinion here.Does anyone actually like having those enormous floating back sheathes for greatswords and great katanas?They clip every fashion and even the environment constantly. I wish we could turn them off.
>>483969779There's no fanwanking, there's you literally not listening to the plot. Malenia's entire thing is that she's infected by the God of Scarlet Rot. Malenia is being forcibly turned into a God, she doesn't want to become one. Every time she explodes, she completes one of her three blooms but dooms the world a bit further into the Scarlet Rod God's clutches as its unwilling consort. She makes the sacrifice against her morals as a last resort to make sure Radahn gets nuked. And even after the world is fucked by her decision he's still running around killing shit; he's just infected. Meanwhile Malenia had to fuck off after getting clapped the entire fight while he didn't give a fuckShe did the equivalent of summon Mimic Tear because she was tired of losing. She didn't beat the game. Radahn didn't even die to her. If not for the main character, he'd have killed everyone who came after him in the festival even while crazy
>>483969370It got the Moonveil treatment where the poise damage of the projectile was drastically nerfed but it's still an overall decent PVE weapon, you just won't be poise breaking enemies in like 3 hits. Not sure about Radahn specifically.
>>483969727>>483969707>drink nectar>diesworth it!>>483969825no
>>483969858Anything using dragon incantations since it's 20% damage buff for 1 minute for free, also works great with blue dancer charm since its 7% DR and decent resistances for 0 weight.So can either go pure faith, or go ARC/FAI for a mixture of dragon communion and dragon incantations so you can also use the flower mace, for an additional lightning resistance debuff.
>>483970012I like them when I dont have a cape and they don't clip into the ground
>>483968769I think the fire knights in the shadow keep drop them at a semi decent rate.
>>483969867Anon, how did Miqulla get rid of his body when it's in the cocoon and he's never communicated with Mohg? The answer is not to think about it. The story isn't important and Elden Ring is completed. It's time for another IP.The DLC starts with a gaping plothole. It's so sad.
>>483969925miss ds1 so much when the only complaints were backstab fishers and phantom hits
>>483970065keep drinking it
>kindred of rot but red
>>483970012I think it looks cool paired with a greatbow, like some weaponmaster shitthe dragon-hunter greatkatana sheathe is probably supposed to be reminiscent of a tail since the dragon form doesn't have one
>>483969370Got all DLC bosses in 2-3 tries with it, Radahn included. Damage is still good as fuck, and if you find the window to throw dark moon at him it's basically over.
>>483970092Backstab fishing unironically took more skill than l2 spam.
>>483970092>when the only complaintsdark bead and pursuers say hello
>>483969979He’s lying to you and/or himself.
Just use summons
>>483968769Just genocide Albinaurics and buy them at the Roundtable Hold
>>483970090His body - the one with grace, his Great Rune, his flesh? The one that got corrupted? Doesn't matter. He's in the Shadow Realm actually, looking just fine. Thinking about removing his body, again.
>>483970298This nigga killed Metyr before Rellana lmao
>>483969124Honestly, most of the time this doesn't feel so bad. It's when you make a plot twist as big as >Miquella isn't waiting for you as his lord, but was actually waiting for his brother, Radahn, who is being revived using Mohg's body (who was charmed all along and is innocent actually) because of an ancient vow.is when it stops working. Nobody can agree on what the "vow" was, if Radahn was charmed or not, nobody knows why Miquella has everything he rid himself of over the course of the entire DLC during the fight, and it REALLY doesn't help that you have to slam your head against Radahn if you want to know what's going on, since the only pre-fight "explanation" is Ansbach's easy-to-fail quest.They make a twist ending, but then wag their finger and say "no no, fight the boss first, then we'll tell you what's happening :)" and then they don't fucking tell you afterwards.
>>483970298jolan and anna post-victory celebratory sexo
>>483970278Pretty easy to dodge.
is there a better glass cannon gigarape spell/aow than ancient dragon lightning yet?
>>483970298>kein talentgot that right LMAO
>>483970410Rolling sparks
I'm too lazy to test it now but is this another one of those cases where the weapon only has an INT scaling because the weapon art only scales with it? So if you wanna use it as an L2 stick can you put it on a pure INT build?
>>483970125oh shit, that was the continuation of the quest. thanks anon! that was so missable though specially when it fucking kills you lol wtf were they thinking.
>>483970278katanafags flipping with black flame were much more annoying to deal with however that is still way better than whatever trash pvp exists in elden ring
>>483969272omens in the sewer
the lore is actually great and Miyazaki is a genius
>>483970368It feels so painfully obvious that Miquella was going to be like Ranni but with a thread of "I want to be reborn into a new, healthy body." I have no idea how that would have played out but damn it would have been amazing.You have Melina talking to you at bonfires in the base game, you'd have Miquella talking to you at bonfires in the DLC. It'd be a perfect little thing.
>>483963875We can all agree that Ansbach is the best part of the DLC, right?
>>483969972>the dlc is just too difficult when options like this still existI think the problem is that other builds for this fight just do not work, meaning greatshield + bleed poke is effectively the meta.
>>483970375i did the same because i thought the black katana is good.
Is the boost from death knight armor just as near useless as from say Rogier pieces?
Guys, can someone explain me what was the Albinauric end game in the Haligtree? Why was it a sacred land that they defended and praised? With Loretta going there because it was the best place for them?
>>483970607No, that's Midra.
>>483970628You just know.
>>483970478The L2 has two components:You literally striker with the weapon, dealing weapon AR * motion value.A bullet of pure magic damage traces the trajectory of the blade, extending beyond the blade's range. This deals a hidden base damage * int scaling mod factorIn practice, the vast majority of its damage comes from the weapon AR and scaling and the bullet portion is just a little bonus that lets you double dip int scaling.
wish you could stock up more than 600 ammo so that I could blow all my runes on burred bolts for reapeating crossbow
>>483970404>>483970543It was mostly in the context of the webm, sure they're easy enough to dodge in a 1v1, but they're a fucking pain if the hosts sunbro can cast them.
>>483968540>Radahn was both the strongest entity in Elden Ring's loreWrong, that would be Maliketh canonically speaking. All of the demigods, Radahn, Malenia, all of them, were scared shitless of him precisely because he could rip them a new asshole if he felt the need to during his heyday.
>>483963875>burnt and bodiless>used as a tool by MarikaWhy isn’t Melina seething like her brother Messmer?
>>483970584I'm honestly okay with all the changes (or foreshadowed stuff, I don't really care if anything was retconned). I just wish there was an ending involving Miquella, and even that's partially because there's unused or untriggered dialogue in the game for that ending
is it true jumping gives you more iframes than rolling?
>>483969543This is how I feel she's standing underneath
>>483970750>Miquella and Malikethummm I don't know how to feel about it.
>>483970607CURSE YOU, BAYLE
>go through the dragon area>stop at a grace, get called away for a few minutes>come back, see two drakes fighting it off>one is a boss, the other has a sliver of its lifebar left>they both abandon their conflict and aggro on me the moment I get in rangeBros did I luck out of a gank there or does the non boss drake always spawn with barely any hp?
>>483970768Melina wasn’t abandoned in the shadow realm.
what you guys think is cooler if i am going spellBLADE(emphasis on blade since i am more interested on melee)faith or int?
>>483970834Furry BL.
>>483970601>It's ao obvious it was going to be [my headcanon]>What could have bean
>>483970750He had the ability to kill them, not that he could. Gods are immortal because their souls can't be killed, he can kill a soul. But just because a toddler can shoot an adult with a gun, that doesn't mean they actually fear the toddler. They're just not going to risk itMaliketh's thing was actually killing you but he didn't have anything fancy about him other than that. The God of Scarlet Rot could have just given him aids and sat on the other side of the cosmos and waited for him to die if it wanted
>>483970750Maliketh WAS the biggest scariest boy after DD was locked up. His name literally means Death of the Gods. I would say he could for sure take Malenia, even if the mechanics don't support that.
>>483970891Definitely Int
>>483969727This is after the final boss. she's just an upper body
>>483970628The Albinaurics lived as subjects of the Carians. and sided with Caria against the Raya Lucaria coup, but were unsuccessful. Now hunted and persecuted by Lucaria's thugs, they were fleeing in search of a safe refuge.The Albinaurics are basically welcome nowhere in the Lands Between except Caria, because the Golden Order considers artificial life created without Grace to be profane. So Miquella's Haligtree accepting them and offering genuine refuge made it a promised land for them.
>>483968540>Radahn was both the strongest entity in Elden Ring's lore>gets bodied twice by Morgott wielding his walking stickkek
>>483968501they should have never turned this guy into a meme. he's never gonna stop milking it. does he sell merch? he must be making money from the fame somehow.
>>483970883The non boss drake spawns with half health IIRC, or at least is intentionally outdamaged by the boss drake.
>>483970891FTH gets access to way cooler buffs and incantations (black flame, lightning armament, blood flame), but reads more like a paladin than a spellblade.Check out Rogier’s set and his glint blade ashes of war if you go INT.
>>483971020>hmmm what if we kept some characters alive...>nah
>>483965894Same, the base moveset is ok but the weapon art is awesome
>>483970891Depends on what do you want>spellBLADE dex/int>SPELLbladespam sword spells with lusat+offhand blade staff
>>483970968but isnt int whole skill tree focused on you casting damaging spells how does it fit a mainly melee playthrough
>>483971020finally, miyazaki beats the tarantino allegations
>>483971097>kill Radagon>"wtf why did Marika die???"
>>483971049Radahn as a guy leading an army in the entry-level crusades vs endgame Radahn literally controlling the cosmos and holding back infinite gods are two different people
>>483968540>Radahn was both the strongest entity in Elden Ring's loreRadahn wouldn't have even beaten Hoarah LouxI'm not even sure he'd beat Godfrey
>Death Knight in some random catacombs drop 110k and 130k runes>DIVINE BEAST DANCING LION, REMEMBRANCE BOSS drops 90k
>>483966913miquella can get his troops to blow themselves up, but i doubt he could get a demigod to be that dedicated.he's no doubt charming mogh to think mogh will have his dynasty.
Any boss or enemy that SHOULD be easy and you can clearly see yourself doing better but just aren't? That's Purescesence for me. I can see (most) hits coming but a lot still connect. And it feels like the water just slows me down, but that's probably just placebo). Worst part is that one of my worst attempts was a win, because his opening moves were different this time.
Powerlevelfags are an actual blight jesus fucking christ
So...why didn't they include a single faith katana?
>>483964257>wtf was the point of castle solThe Eclipse is based on the idea of ripping the souls of the unwanted children of Marika frlm the Erdtree so that those may return to their bodies, using Death Blight/Deathroot, which indeed has exactly such effect whem creating Those Who Live in Death. Nowhere it mentions it is about Godwyn itself. Miquella saw Godwyn's ability to pull souls away fron the Erdtree and back into bodies, and wanted to use that for the wandering mausoleums. This was always his plan, he wanted remembrances of Demigods to have them hewn into the Haligtree, much like the Skibiditree and The Erdtree have remembrances (aka Souls of big Demigods and Legeds) hewn into them. It's not an act of generosity, it's not an act of compassion, and it certainly had nothing to do with Godwyn. It's like when Pontiff saw the Profaned Flame made in the Capital and used it to his own advantage
We never met Miquella yet I somehow miss him.I guess im just upset over all the wasted potential.
>>483964217Because fuck you that's why haha git gud faget
>>483971135>Carian sword spells (Slicer, Piercer, Big Sword spells)>Gavel of Hamma>Carian sword AoWThe DLC just gave us Carian Sovereignty, which is one of the absolute strongest AoWs in the entire game
>>483971053I think he's cool purely based on the fact that he makes the /erg/ tryhards seethe by being them than them at the gameHope he returns with the Big Pot Head because le fahnny meme and starts helping shitters kill DLC Radahn
>>483971157What do you think Radahn 'holding back the stars means'? Because it means he's the only thing stopping the gods from conquering the planet and he's doing it to all of them at the same timeI'd like to see Mr Screaming Punchyman do that
>>483971097It makes sense when you realize that Elden Ring is a finished IP. They're still going to be doing the two word title stuff I imagine cus that's their biggest draw, but the world of Elden Ring is done. Same with the world of Dark Souls. Same with Bloodborne.This is the end gentlemen. Besides some patches we got all we're ever going to get of Elden Ring. This DLC is the send off - and what a sad, pathetic, lore ruining, story raping send off it is. Todd Howard would be proud.
>>483971151Radagon was using Marika's body is the difference though, whereas Miquella and St. Trina were separate at this pointThe separation was total, the fact that it is in fact total is important that's why the ghost is so butthurt>>483971213Reminder that Roderika Blanco solos Radahn and Malenia
>>483971215A true master needs faith only in his skills.
>infuse bloodfiend fork with fire/sacred>its now arc/fthwow, an actual arc/fth weapon
>>483971213>he can’t handle power level kino
>>483971157>>483971157>Radahn was both the strongest entity in Elden Ring's loreENTER
>>483970883You lucked out of a gank fight. The non boss was like 75% health when I did it and the entire fight from that point onward was running in circles waiting for the dragon breath to stop so I can land a hit. Riveting stuff. >>483970891Int has better spellblade synergy just from the number of skills you can use in melee range and actually have the cast finish.Faith gets better elemental coverage You can do it with them but Int has more spells to support it.
>>483970452for pvp maybe, but pvp is gay
>>483971310Does it make the elemental damage scale with arc or just make some abominable 4-way split weapon?
>>483971281>stopping the gods from conquering the planet>obviously recent fallingstar beasts in the game world>none of the so-called gods land on the earth, just a normal rocknta but what is this new cope?>>483971287Lord of the Rings is also a finished franchise but you didn't see Tolkien detonate Middle Earth to kill everyone off in order to end it rightly
>>483970937He was feared for his ferocity, not because of destined death. Read his armor description. It more or less says that Maliketh was so apeshit insane that demigods of every color and creed were scared of him. Destined death just happened to be a really nasty bonus that made sure whatever he did to you was basically permanent.
>>483971310Is Florissax’s mace not FTH/ARC?
Another load of DLC sloppa.Now I need to see how perverse I can make this
>>483971346>pvpOh sweet summer child
>>483971346>for pvp maybenibba rolling sparks does 10k in pve against bosses, it's like hitting 6+ burn o flame columns
>the entire reason for the game even happening is that the tarnished wants to fuck marika>all of the monsters and gods that (You) face are for that purpose Incredibly based
>>483970883If you just around the outskirts you csb get the boss to kill the other and then you can finish it off. It's just a regular Dragon with an Ancient Lightning esque attack so its easy enough
Crazy how Dark Souls 2 gets shit on for artificial difficulty but Elden Ring gets a pass for all the bullshit it does. I love Elden Ring, but jesus christ this DLC doubles down on all the worst parts of the base game. Dodging a 10 hit combo only to get one poke in for 1/100th of the boss' health in damage before the combo starts again is fucking retarded and isn't fun. It's retarded ass game design.
>>483971424Radahn is the Jesus of the setting bro. He's holding back Outer Gods, Astels and Miquella's/Ranni's plan of world domination. You don't get it bro. His horse is called Leonard, by the way.
>>483971452Disgusting character, please fix it or don't post again.
>>483971450Florissax's mace is STR/ARC
>>483971563>Radahn is the Jesus of the settingSo he's dead and stole all of his ideas from more intelligent people? Makes sense
>>483971498Level up your Scadutree level retard
>>483970298why do people get so mad about spirit summons, anyways? many times they just fucking die. i can almost guarantee you a spirit summon won't do jack shit for you if your scat level isn't high enough. i know because i tried against rellana at 4 scat and my summon just fucking died early in phase 2.literally do a 0 scat run and spirit summon, i can pretty much guarantee you they won't do jack shit for you.
>>483971450It doesn't have FTH at all.It's best just used by itself to zap shit from across the map for 2.8k per shock.
>>483971480>>483971467oh cool
I just beat Radahn with my boy Ansbach. Hid behind my fingerprint and poked him with sword lance. I feel kinda empty, the whole time I was spamming r1 in the back of my mind I was glad I had a shield because this looks like unfun bullshit.Man, I just got his remembrance weapons and I still can't believe this. Even his armour is a garish, tacky downgrade from his base game version. I just can't believed they thought this was a good idea. Lets not pretend they dropped the ball. They watched it bounce off their chest and didn't even try to catch it.
>>483964257>wtf was the point of castle sol, the unalloyed needle, and the haligtree? Miquella tried to draw the remembrances of the soulless Demigods from the Erdtree back to their bodies, in order to use them. The Eclipse and Eclipse weaponry all uses Deathblight, which has as effect bringing souls back into corpses >how does it connect to miquella's goal to have radahn as his consort? When the Eclipse failed, Miquella saw as only possible alternative ascending to Godhood using Radahn as King Consort. Radahn was the only big player in the Shattering he couldn't control nor coerce, and he believes the perfect Age of Compassion is one where he is in control of everything and unconditionally beloved by everyone
>>483971621What are you doing here, Rabbi?
>>483971020>>483970812se definitely looked like she had her ass up while sleeping lol
>>483971498>Every boss has a shit ton of combos, AoE and lingering attacks, two shots you>Every enemy encounter is a gank, with either enemies falling down to you or hiding in a corner>To "counter" this you either change your build or use Scadutree Fragments in an epic game design
>>483971621Kys kaffir.
>>483971643Spirit summons don't use skibidi they use the other thingexalted ash or whatever the fuck it's calledman this mechanic was so dogshit it's unbelievable they should've just upgraded your skibidi and spirit ash with every remembrance boss you killed
>>483971707She looks like she braps pollen
>>483971281Do you think Radahn is literally holding the stars? He cast a spell that stops them, thus also sealing fates/destinies. This isn't something that takes effort on his part. He's insane and rotting and it's still happening. No one is saying that Radahn isn't impressive but he's sure as heck isn't the strongest anything.Oh, another giant gaping plot hole. The Greater Will sent down Astel, it destroyed the nameless cities. No, wait, apparently it's been absent the entire time. So who sent the fucking meteors? Them making that god killing tool was a pretty big deal and really seemed to piss off the Greater Will. I guess Miyazaki just forgot?how can anybody be this retarded. This isn't complicated stuff, this is really simple and obvious shit. I just don't understand.
>>483971424>stopping the gods from conquering the planet>obviously recent fallingstar beasts in the game worldHis power is waning from rot dude, did you even play the game? It's the entire plot of the first half of the game. He's crazy but still subconciously putting the fucking cosmos into stasis. Every major player is backed by a god of some kind but none of them can do anything until Radahn's subconscious stops cockblocking everyone, so he still has to die. Rockboys got in because he doesn't have perfect control anymore>none of the so-called gods land on the earth, just a normal rockThe normal rock that was sent by Ranni's backing god, the god of the moon, so she can do her thing lolThe entire plot of Elden Ring is that a bunch of gods saw a planet easy to take over because its associated God and Beast are fucked at the moment, but Radahn singlehanded cockblocks the entire cosmos AND fights the Rot Thot at the the time while hard nerfed, and even after that he'd still kill the entire cast if they ran at him and still mostly keep the gods at bay until he finally died of godaids, if not for the main character finishing him off
>>483971151she is not dead though
>>483966407>>483966913>>483966005Can't he convince him to renounce his Great Rune?
>>483969925>"stupid ass game">it's an invader webmFIRST TIME FIGHTING 3 DUDES STANDING IN AN OPEN FIELD THERE, BUD? never invade the open world. go to specific legacy dungeons you like and invade locally there. sorry you had to go through that, but now you know, at least. you're welcome.
call me a shitter, but those horned spinning fucks in the ruins of rauh are simply unfair
>>483971695>rabbiThe jews stole all of their ideas from the Persians too however
>>483971624I’m at 17. That doesn’t excuse combo spamming with tight hit window garbage.
>>483971154>entry-level crusadesHe got decked after the Shattering when he already had his cosmos bullshit powers.That he never uses because apparently he was a swell guy.
please someone summon for dancing lionI wanna hear the OST
>see a lot of people praising putrescent knight>get to it>literally Elden Beast 2.0 of a slog running around like a retard plus the abhorrent tandem wombo combo with the shit horselol, lmao evenwhat a waste of a cool design
>>483971898shitter.
I beat Rellana with parrying because I thought there is lterally no other way (I never really used parries before). It was painful, but fun.
So Varre had superficial politeness but was obviously nut, but Ansbach seems fully reasonable and in control of his faculties, so what were the Bloody Fingers like before Mohg got Miquellaested? Like Recusants aren’t being mind controlled, just deceived, and seem to be behind the sales pitch of a rebellion against the Erdtree, but obviously there’s a bunch of possible implications about how things are going with the Moghwyn
About how much STR and FTH would be good for an RL150 STR/FTH build focused on Bestial incantations? I've never really done hybrid builds aside from Quality in DaS1 so I'm a bit lost.
>>483971867Nobody is going to summon you looking like that, playa
>>483971783hot!
why does the duke's manse have like 80 shortcuts back to back to the same place and 3 graces a couple rooms apart?
>>483971795>his power is waningAnd yet my point is that no so-called god ever lands either way, only random space monsters that he doesn't seem to have ever stopped. Pretty much all of the stars simply zoom off into the distance once he dies and the new reveal from Metyr implies they're basically all nothing but normal rocks with a few Astels drifting around. The moon god is literally just a rock, even the original game wasn't super clear on whether it was conscious like e.g. the Formless Mother.
>>483971967mean
>>483971898>see a lot of people praising putrescent knightI have never seen a single soul liking this boss.
>>483971867it's on youtube. no i won't link you.
>>483971969snifffags are the weirdest people in the world
>>483971707Stop. My dick can't handle it.>>483971793>The Greater Will sent down Astel, it destroyed the nameless cities. No, wait, apparently it's been absent the entire time.Makes you think. "Banished them underground" is just Two Fingers action. I also find it funny how they call him Star because everything that comes from the space is a "Star" in Elden Ring. >A falling star, right before our eyes!>It's a meteor>>483971804The first thing that happens when his 2nd phase starts (and is when Miquella mentions he's back) is his body burning. Which is what his Great Rune does.I know it doesn't make sense, specially considering we have it on us. But oh well.
you're all wrong, the strongest thing in the elden ring setting is a bottle of perfume that smells like lightning
>Ancient Ruins of Rauh>found the grace>killed the hippo clone>cannot find where to go next>it has been an hourfuck this vertical bullshit
>>483971867>type b>barefoot>halstocEven if I hadn't beaten the dlc already and wasn't violently opposed to summoning I wouldn't summon you, you wretched thing.
>>483972038yeh but the youtube ones break it into two and it doesn't transition into the 2nd phase like the ingame one does
>>483963875>it took three rolling sparks to defeat morgottplease don't tell me the perfume bottles got nerfed already.
>>483971898There is something off about it's attacks but I can't quite put my finger on it. I see most of them coming a mile away but they still tag me a lot. I did manage to perfect dodge one of his first opening combos (the swings with the horse attacks).Of course I'd die on that attempt and win on the next one where I played horribly.
>>483971793>The Greater Will sent down Astel, it destroyed the nameless citiesthis one can actually kind of be explained away as "everyone thought it was the GW but actually it was literally just coincidence"It's kind of like how people irl assumed that god was flexing his muscles whenever a town god flooded or a comet showed up or whatever
>>483971898>putrescentDid we really need another rot-themed magic
>>483972149um akshually it's a cleanrot knight sword not an estoc
>>483972128hahahah navigationlet. somehow I managed to find all (major) items without looking up their locations
>>483971898>see a lot of people praising putrescent knightWho or where? Because I've seen nothing but absolute vitriol towards this fucking thing.
anybody got a list of what i can use that isn't cheating/easy mode shit?
And last minute idea I had, off to the store now.Asking for more risque fashion to try on female characters later.
>>483971937He wasn't exactly a nut. He believed whole heartedly in his god and the future he promised. He could be a sarcastic asshat and was a bit of a dick, but he believed in Mohg. Meanwhile Mohgwyn was taking bloodbaths with the gay boy.
>>483971867I've beaten it alreadyit'd be cool if you could replay bosses or something with co-op but nooooo
>>483966005Are there really still retards like this that don't get the story or is this more coping with how they didn't reason themselves into the expectations they had for Miquella in the first place
>>483972128Go through the ruins until you reach a point where there's some undead fuckers bouncing fire down the stairs. Get past them to the next level where there's another fire bouncy fucker and run along the left wall, there'll be a door way on that side that should get you out of that fuckzone. Be warned that one of those curseblade cunts is in that room though. Fuck Rauh honestly.
>>483971795Anon, what the fuck are you talking about lmao. Are you on crack? There is nothing to imply that the "stars" even give a shit about The Lands Between, let alone want to conquer it. Even in lore the Greater Will had to throw one of the fuckers at it. We also see some underground and on top of a mountain. Outer Gods are gods outside the universe, Radahn isn't doing anything to them. His thing is stopping the stars and fate. This prevents Astels from popping up more. It has nothing to do with Outer Gods. If anything its to help the Golden Order stay in power.
>>483971793Did you speedread the plot retard? The entire plot of Elden Ring is that a bunch of gods want to take over and influence it like Marika did in her and the Greater Will's absence. Radahn is stopping it. He's not just pausing some rocks in space and calling it a day; he's literally stopping every God's plan to take over at the same time while still fighting Malenia and then getting aids, and even while he has aids. Astel and the Morningstar Beasts join the fray after he got aids because he couldn't perfectly control the entire cosmos anymore>>483971986>no one landsBecause the main character speedruns choosing one of the endings that puts a God in power and exist as their Lord to govern the world. There's only a few 'main' story elements and pretty much the second you kill RadahnThe formless mother's entire plotline is A. DLC so we can't even confirm how consistent it is, and B. literally fucking bullshit propaganda by a crazy old man who talks to a hand, who's trying to become a mother and uses jarkids-turned-assassins as his only connection to the world
>>483972329give ur guy stronger arms
>>483972328behead yourself.
>>483971343I seebut spamming carian slices is boring as helli wanted to actually hit shit with swords
>>483965298It does make sense now why omens are cursed. They're a resurgence of her mortal enemy.
>>483972213go up to level 180-200 i heard activity is best up there, if that helps. idk what level you are.
I summon, dueling shield bosses to death, five shot bosses with ancient dragon lightning, use mimic tear, and abuse the invincibility ash of warIf it's in the game, I'm using it. "you didn't beat the game" sissies have the same energy as the kids who tried to ban characters in fighting games.
>do coop stormveil on faithdex char +3>0 damagebroh
>>483972274I'm gonna estoc my cock in your eyesockets.
>>483972376>it's not shit, you just don't get itPerfect defense, I have to concede
>>483972376Breaking 2 years of autistic headcanon is hard it seemsMiquellafags will probably manage, Godwyntrannies will be mad forever
>>483972427>The formless mother's entire plotlineThe Formless Mother is Mohg dude>There's only a few 'main' story elements and pretty much the second you kill RadahnWhat happens? A rock lands on the ground and all the other stars fuck off?
On one hand, I'm liking the amount of torrent based platforming to reach hidden places in the dlc.On the other hand, I keep accidentally cheesing my way there from the return path instead of the expected path, which feels like suboptimal design.
>>483972329What is this bodytype called
>Explore the world>Get a shit ton of Scadutree Fragments and Revered Spirit ashes>Summoned NPCs and Spirits>Changed to Greatshield + Antspur Rapier for Radahn>DLC was easyI don't like it. I think I died 30 times to the Dancing Lion and ~100 times to Radahn, but the moment I decided to do those things they died instantly. I think I did Divine Dancer and Rellana in one try the moment I decided to use spirit ashes.
>>483972495>t. plays akuma>"but it's in the game!!!" :_^(
>>483972567I really like the dressFinally we can be properly caster/fa/
>>483972408>the seven or something gods mentioned a million times in the game, five of which each lead to endings that completely define the fate of the world, is nothing and don't existAre you actually retarded? I'm not even replying to your autism anymore. What we know is that there's at least seven gods that want to be involved. Want we don't know is how many more are around, and either wanted to come in but couldn't because of Radahn, because the main character fucked everyone over too quickly, or because the ones trying to take over the world were just strong enough to tell everyone else to fuck off. We don't know. What we do know is that there's at least a handful of clearly stated gods that want in and couldn't do anything because of RadahnYou keep talking about how Astels are all that want to get in when the game says multiple times over that there's a bunch of gods who can't do shit lol
>>483972632The Mark Rippetoe special
>>483972560owo
>>483972495>ban characters in fighting gamesThat's actually way more justifiable since fighting games are inherently competitiveMeta Knight should've been banned because the entire meta was play meta knight or lose
>>483971310I wonder if it's worth going cold with 2 of themthat way you got both cold and bleed with a C in str
>>483970768Melina does not have a physical body and is just a spirit floating around, she also has missing memories of her early life.Maybe she pulled a Ranni in her youth out of seethe and instead of Ranni's result she got amnesia
>>483972697>the moment I moved the difficulty from Normal to Story the game was easier Wow!
I love when my 4k damage riposte takes a thirtieth of the bosses health bar and his random light attacks hit over 1k on my 2k health pool
>>483972725>What we know is that there's at least seven gods that want to be involvedWe don't actually know that they "want" to be involved, only that they are involved, and we also don't know that they're celestial in any way, shape, or form.>couldn't do anything because of Radahn>rot is slowly ripping the world apart anyway>godwyn's face is showing up everywhere>mohg's plan continues unabateduhhhhhhhh bro?
>>483970785There's no changes. Everything that happened in the DLC is a clear direct continuation of the base game.When you realize what Miquella wanted to actually use the Eclipse for, it makes a lot more sense than some omious bullshit ritual to darken the sky that magically resurrect Godwyn and fixes the Haligtree. The lore is in the fine details, like lore regarding remembrances and what sacred trees are made of. The base game even preannounces how evil Miquella is, since he is using Deathblight to try and steal souls to forcefully graft into his tree, much like Godric with limbs.In the DLC, since that didn't work, he decided to transpose the soul of someone actually capable of controlling Fate into his personal meat puppet.
>>483972615>The Formless Mother is Mohg dudeThe fuck?>The mother of truth craves wounds. When Mohg stood before her, deep underground, his accursed blood erupted with fire, and he was besotted with the defilement that he was born into.>Mohg actually just found a mirror, he's retarded and living in a sewer didn't help it.
>>483972427oh jesus. If you're just going to make up dumb shit then why bother. It's a video game - don't be so retarded over a video game. Radahn is holding back the fates and stars of everyone in the Lands Between. This isn't complicated. It has nothing to do with the Outer Gods because the stars -are not Outer Gods-.The thing stopping Outer Gods from "taking over" is that "taking over" is fucking hard. These are infinitely powerful things, they have limits on what they can do. Being locked up, specifically, seems to really fuck with them.
>>483972697>it was really hard, until i used ez modenow go back and play it again but beat it the right way this time.
>>483972707>akumaI promise you can do far worse to you than using Akuma in 2. >>483972807While I semi agree. Bayo was far worse than MK ever was.
>>483972967I'm saying that the Formless Mother has nothing to do with Radahn or Ymir and the DLC doesn't really shed any light on it eitherAre you sure you didn't mistype it as GW or something?
>>483972376As usual most of it will stop when e-celebs make their videos, it will then be focused on angrily attacking anyone that disagrees with the e-celeb summaries
>>483972697Do JJKshitters really
>>483972964>The base game even preannounces how evil Miquella is, since he is using Deathblight to try and steal souls to forcefully graft into his tree, much like Godric with limbs.
Has anyone tried getting their heart stolen by Miquella, leaving the DLC behind without killing Radahn and then killing the elden beasst and seeing if a new option pops up at Marika yet?
>get seething mad at boss for somehow hurting and staggering me in spite of deflecting tear>go at him in full block mode for at least a score attempts until he dies>sit at the grace to remove the useless waste of a tearIt wasn't fucking there. I removed it to try a weapon I didn't have the reqs for and never put it back.
alright why the fuck would this wench drop Gaius's pants?
>>483973112The vaatishill is switching tactics it seems
>level 200 arcane build>poison Great Katana>Poison Flower Blooms Twice>70 bleed, over 150 poison>poison proc can be turned into a nuke with Poison Flower Blooms Twice>Two Poison Flowers trigger rotStatus effect chads...
>what if... we made heckin Radahn but stronger>but he still doesn't react to the player in any unique wayBrilliant idea Teriyaki, loved the creativity
>>483973175It's his wife. She was sniffing it.>>483973112>AIEEEEEEE SAVE US VAATIVIDYA slop consumer
>>483973146I don't think I have much left to do in the DLC before the final boss I might be able to try this in a couple hours
MOON'D
>>483973146How optimistic of you, Anon.Not even Gideon has dialogue about the DLC.
is the wall of sparks ash on perfumes good in pvp?
>>483972615>The formless mother's entire plotlineOh you mean Mr Hypnoraped man's god, my bad. I thought you were talking about one actually relevant. Yeah who gives a fuck, it's probably a minor god given that her only candidate for Consort was literally NTRed from her by a kid>What happens? A rock lands on the ground and all the other stars fuck off?A rock lands that directly lets you ascend Ranni to godhood, who was backed by a god. I wonder why it landed. You can't honestly be crying that the strongest gods didn't just crashland into the planet and immediately blow it up in the day it took your character to speedrun burning the tree and taking over. Radahn kept everyone at bay for an undefined period of the time. Even if there weren't issues with immediately going after the planet they all wanted to carefully take over, they were probably taking a shit when he suddenly died so they didn't have time to respond. I don't know, I didn't write the game. Point is Radahn cucked them no matter how much you want to cope
>>483973175That was his wife. She kept them on her rather than letting him wear them because they were more or less designed as a cruel joke on Gaius who couldnt even wear them.
>>483972989*are not infinity powerful things.What we do know about Outer Gods, from the DLC so take it with a grain of salt how much it was planned out, is that they are lonely. They also exist in their own Microcosom. Also, we know that when they fuck off they tend to never come back.At least I can't think of a single example of an Outer God coming back. I know the Blood Star and the Frenzied Flame were "summoned" but that seems different then calling an Outer God who literally fucked off.Outer Gods are their own cycle and universe, just like the Greater Will is for the Lands Between.
>>483973242I wish Fromsoft would fix status procs in PvP I'm so fucking sick and tired of getting rotted or bled or slept even when I dodge the attacks
>>483973338sex sex sex sex sex
>>483973261arso he is a shotacon, yes yes he daisuki to sucka da boycockdo you rike my vision?
>>483972615>The Formless Mother is Mohg dudeFormless mother predates Mohg
>DLC's poster antagonist is all about big fire>Still no incantation that just lets you put normal-ass fire on your weaponWhy.
>>483973242Poison Flower Blooms Twice is legitimately good and works on a pure arc build due to scaling itself right off of AR
*be's ruining your experience*
Does the whole "the seduction and the betrayal" hint that Marika killed her Lord, took their runes/grace/whatever and used it attain Godhood?
>>483973338>>483973401>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XT13ijUfSts
>>483973146It doesn't exist dudeThere is no extra endingIt's time to give up>>483973153lmao outplayed
>>483973542>first mob in the DLC>oh nice wow let's give it a try>gets raped because it wont stance break at allkek i fucking despise it. very cheap
>>483973242>level 200>>>>>>>>>>>>>buildHere's your (You), you sad little shitter.
>>483973542Just stunlock him.
>>483973363>probably a minor godIt's an outer god. Name the outer gods that supposedly got cucked by Radahn. The Dark Moon doesn't seem to back Ranni in any meaningful way, the Rot God is going on completely oblivious to anything Radahn is doing even while they're in jail, and the Formless Mother is COMPLETELY unaffected. The Dark Moon isn't really affected either since they show up in the sky just fine even while Radahn is around, what Radahn is doing is stopping fate which is pretty based and big but completely different from holding back outer gods, assuming they even exist in any meaningful sense of the word.>>483973520Yeah I'm just saying that this radownie mistook the formless mother for the GW or something
>>483973705Says the 150 redditer.
>guard counterswhat are their point against bosses unless you rocking greatshields?
>>483968540>Radahn was both the strongest entity in Elden Ring's loreSomeone needs another caning.Reminder Maliketh > everyone except Marika/Radagon.
Leda is such a psycho girlfriend type and I wish someone like her loved me
>>483973719>mistook the formless mother for the GW???Greater will had already fucked off and I doubt Metyr gave two shits about a random clan getting butchered.
>>483973126Yes, that's exactly what the Eclipse is for. The Sacred trees grow by having Remembrances hewn into it. Miquella got the idea by seeing Godwyn's power and hoped to starve and rob the Erdtree.
Another glorious day begins. Time to git gud and defeat Ralva!After collecting all the skibidi I can.
>>483973790we honestly don't know anything about Marika's personal strength even if my headcanon is that she could whip Malekith like a Tarnished whips a normal dog
>>483971898he's just a gayer more useless nito
>>483972615>The Formless Mother is Mohg dudeImagine being this wrong
>>483973787They were legitimately good after the buff in the base game even with medium shield (as in the one medium shield)They're pretty fucking dogshit now due to attack string length and stamina drain.
>>483973857>The formless mother's entire plotline is A. DLC so we can't even confirm how consistent it is, and B. literally fucking bullshit propaganda by a crazy old man who talks to a hand, who's trying to become a mother and uses jarkids-turned-assassins as his only connection to the worldI'm saying he either made a typo or didn't know what the fuck he was talking aboutprobably the latter
New Sekiro game in the land of reeds need it or keep it
>>483972963>rotThe only god that's actually getting anywhere and there's a lot of variables. Malenia could have simply not rot nuked the world and it'd have done nothing. Malenia herself is one of three candidates for godhood so it's hard to say how much sway the rot god had; but she clearly took a gamble given that she needed to kill Radahn for Miquella's planbut>Godwyn's faceDude this isn't even a god's work. This is just a result of the Erdtree dealing with a Demi-God who doesn't have a soul to recycle. It doesn't know wtf to do>Mohg's "plan"/godLiterally cucked by Miquella who wasn't even a god yet. Mohg's god was completely shat on because its only consort candidate has to deal with allegations and probably didn't even listen to it>>483972989>you're making up dumb things but I'm not because lolNah you're completely right, Radahn wasn't fucking doing anything. The seven or eight gods we know of, five of which directly lead to endings that completely change the world, none of which can progress without Radahn, didn't care about him at all. Radahn was just playing with space rocks and the gods weren't actually stopped despite how long it's been since the Elden Ring was broken, The Greater Will fucked off, and Marika was in stasis. I'm sure the Frenzied Flame who is completely rational and capable of controlling itself was just jerking off in a corner somewhere and forgot to immediately delete the planet. There wasn't anything stopping it. There's no outer gods, it's all space rocks teeheeShut the fuck up
i killed the golden hippo. where do i go next bros? who is the next boss?
What’s the difference between skibidi level 19 and 20 after the balance patch?
>>483973850Don't stick your dick in crazy anon, especially not a yandere crazy who kills off her own companions for not being loyal enough.
>>483973990Sekiro 2: Journey to the West with immortal severance as the canon ending for 1.
>>4839740405%
>Chainsaw Man referenceBRAVO MIYAZAKI-SAN
>>48397404019 = you beat the game 20 = you didn't beat the game
>>483973705Kill yourself metatranny
>>483973850same yorubro
>>483973674>fucking hate this motherfucker>throw ETERNAL sleep pot on him>just shrugs it off???????????
>>483973770>level 200 arcane shitter>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>calling anyone a redditor
I hate how Bayle keeps pulling his fucking head back
>>483973995>The only god that's actually getting anywhere and there's a lot of variables. Malenia could have simply not rot nuked the world and it'd have done nothing.Yeah, Miquella was holding it at bay. Not Radahn. Miquella. Radahn had nothing to do with it.>Literally cucked by Miquella who wasn't even a god yetYeah which isn't Radahn.>The seven or eight gods we know of, five of which directly lead to endings that completely change the worldWhich ones are those lol? Frenzied Flame doesn't need Radahn, none of the Fracture variants require or involve a god, Ranni ending is the only one that even requires Radahn to be dead. Who else is there? List them nigger.
>>483973526It's like a status effect Piercing Fang. On low to mid level invasions it can be a literal lifesaver when you're facing an OLP gank team.
>>483974185Not the same anon.
>>483973903The only thing 'feat' I can think of is during the war with the Fire Giants Marika personally killed their god.Presumably she killed the Gloom Eyed Queen too but I believe that one is just speculation.
>>483974208>does a big slow move that hangs his head out of reach the whole time>slams head down>immediately withdraws it to cancel recovery into another move>does this forever.I broke his fucking ankles and I am not ashamed. Fuck that guy.
>radownie losing his mindIt's the goldmask retard again isn't it?
>>483974184>ETERNAL sleep potyou dont have that at the start of the DLC
>>483974208Phase 2 was spastic as fuck and there were light beams everywhere so I just broke out the lightning boltsknight's lightning is INSANE
>>483964143to this day I can't believe nor understand how anyone could ever take fromsoft pvp seriously
>Marika's past DLC>No Gloam Eyed Queen>Not a single Godskin, even though they reused a bunch of base game bosses
>kill bayle the bitch (very disappointed in the fight, had more trouble with senessax's spazzing camera and double roll required thunder attacks)>Igon alive and continuously switching which arm is holding his bow (I'm assuming a glitch)>go back to the last place I talked to him, he deadI should have expected it.
Can you jump Bayle's giant electric blast in P2
>>483974259Hence, headcanon. But strong women are hot and I headcanon that she could grow an erdtree under your asshole and turn you into fertilizer.>GEQI'm pretty sure that was all Malekith?
>>483974141I don't get it
>>483974029> who is the next boss?Four more golden hippos.
>>483974029Messmer, explore the tower
>>483974336yeah, i thought about using eternal sleep pots later on when you find one in the ruins of rauh
>>483974427GEQfags were the true losers of the DLC, not even godwynbros lost this hard since they at least got that armor set>>483974412Same reason there are people spamming YDBTG nonstop, these are people who couldn't make it playing actual competitive games like fighting games or even fucking pokemon
>>483971395Arc increases its bleed build upat 55 arc it has 68 build upIf the weapon has decent AR with like 40+ faith it should be pretty decent?You can also put flame skewer on it for the fire buff for extra AR
>every single invader is either spamming perfumes or weapon art spamming with those hand daggers with super high pingzzzzzzz
>>483974412This is the same shit bosses do, rollcatch mixups 24/7Souls combat is gay and outdated.
whats the survival rate of npcs in a from game
Shaded castle >>>>>>>> anything in the base game
>>483974427I'm slowly becoming more convinced that the Gloam Eyed Queen was just the part of Marika that could accept destined death
is new-radahn immune to rot and/or bleed? feels like arcane might stand a chance here
>>483974259All we know about the GEQ is that she wielded the Godslayer Greatsword and Maliketh "defeated" her, stripped Destined Death from her and sealed it and that this act is what begat the Golden Order.We don't know if she killed her or just slapped her around and left her miserable somewhere. The most plausible theory after the DLC is still that the GEQ was actually Marika during her edgy phase, and Maliketh was being puppeted by the Fingers/Metyr to bring her to heel.The other possibility I guess is that the GEQ was somehow connected to the Hornsent and the whole jarring Numen thing and was defeated during Marika's ascent for Enir Ilim but then there should have been at least SOMETHING relating to them in the Tower.
>>483974667Shaded Castle is pretty good but I still prefer Stormveil, Stormveil is the gold standard
>>483974647yea I hope no one likes those daggers they're getting shit on
>>483974809its just their ashes
>>483974780I like Haligtree and Leyndell more than stormveil, I think people have bias towards that one for being the first legacy dungeon
>>483973995anon, meds. the fuck are you even on about. Like honestly. Radahn stopped the stars and sealed the fates of those in the Lands Between. He did this for the Golden Order. That's impressive. He lost of Malenia because of the rot - she couldn't beat him without it. This is also impressive.This has NOTHING to do with the Outer Gods. The Rot God was locked up by some Swordsman, the Three Fingers has Shabirri seducing people, who knows about the Formless Mother, the Fel god has one giant left that he's hanging around inside. The Moons aren't Outer Gods by definition and are more a source of power.the fuck are you on about lmao.
>is implied to be a ruthless edgelord in his youth>developed stylish techniques that barely utilize arcane and mostly use his dexterity>mellowed out when he grew older, wisened up>still loyal to Mohg, but has his own head on shoulders too>holds no grudge for killing Mohg, it had to be done>friendly with you, but never expects you to do anything in return, genuinely surprised if you assist him when Leda shows up to murder him>returns it tenfold by helping you out against Leda and then Miquella>his last words if he dies while you summon him are so heartfelt they have significantly more impact than the final battle itself, giving the entire game a great last impressionHe's by far the single best NPC in the entire game.Who the FUCK is responsible for writing their NPCs in their last titles? Sekiro, AC6, now this DLC, their NPCs are even better than usual. Do they have a new writer in team?
>>483974914Leyndell just doesn't feel like a legacy dungeon to me which is why I exclude it
>>483974665Rya survives and travels the world depending on how you end her story.
>>483974412It's actually a very skilled and technically advanced game of abusing the netcode and movement so that your attacks come out 4 frames faster making them unreactable and shortening your dodge recovery windows to make you unpunishable, don't like it chuddie?
>>483974942pedo worshiping fag I helped Leda kill him
>>483974691He's not immune but he does that gayass thing where he cleanses statuses during the phase 2 transition (same as Messmer). And like basically every DLC boss, his resistance to poison/rot is insanely high, and his resistance to bleed goes up by a ridiculous amount at each step so you're only likely to get 3-4 triggers in the entire fight. It's worth using a weapon that has innate bleed because you'll probably get 1-2 triggers for free but it's not worth speccing into arc and sacrificing raw damage over a pure physical build just to maybe get 1 extra bleed trigger per fight.This is that dumb shit Monster Hunter does as well, which makes it so that statuses are only ever worthwhile if they're free but utterly worthless to spec into because there's an effective cap on them that's essentially the same no matter how many tradeoffs you make.
>>483974665Dead>Sir Ansbach, Freyja, Hornsent, Igon, Moore, Leda, Thiollier, Hornsent Grandan, Dryleaf Dane, Count Ymir, Dragon Communion Priestess, Jolan, Fire Knight Queelign, St. Trina, Miquella>Sellen, Hewg, Roderika, Thops, Iji, Rogier, Boc, Corhyn, Maliketh, Bernahl, Pidia, Melina, Alexander, Yura, Varre, Fia, Edgar, Irina, Diallos, Gideon, Tanith, Dung Eater, Seluvis, Blaidd, Gowry, Millicent, Latenna, Albus, Ensha, Jerren, Boggart, Goldmask, D.>AliveNepheli, Gostoc, Kenneth (nothing happens to them)Rya, Jar Bairn (unknown)RanniYou rike, gaijin?
>>483974942Now if only the NPCs got to talk moremaybe even truly interact with the player beyond cryptic monologuesIs it any surprise that the two most liked NPCs from the DLC (Igor and Ansbach) are the two that have personalities not centered around random fetch quests
>>483974210>name themI'm not letting you red herring me you fucking faggot. The reason I said anything about the gods we know is because of the retarded claim that there's no gods who apparently care about the world/everyone's fucking off/whatever. The argument that's being used to imply that there's nothing that cares about the world and the only thing in the sky are rock monsters. I mentioned the gods we know as proof there are gods trying to take over the planet, you tried to strawman me into implying that Radahn is directly fighting them. No, what we know is that Radahn is singlehandedly preventing the outer gods that want in from getting in. The gods that are actually on the planet are all currently completely cucked and doing nothing or in stasis until some outside influence changes things.What we do know is that at the very least Ranni's god needs Radahn out of the way and that Miquella can't try to ascend to be a god without Radahn out of the way because he can't get into the Lands of Shadow while the firmament is in placeNow beyond that we don't know because we've had fuck all interactions with the god. But given that you're implying Radahn is doing nothing, that's directly implying the planet is completely unprotected because the Greater Will has fucked off, Marika is CCed, and the Erdtree isn't doing its job properly. So something like the Frenzied Flame should easily be able to conquer the planet. The potentially infinite power hungry gods out there are no different as well, yet nothing has happened and nothing even started to happen until Radahn is infected and his control over the stars wanes. And it's only after we killed him that any kind of plot starts moving. But I'm sure there's no correlation at all because clearly the gods are just dogshit and despite being all powerful can't even do something as simple as take over an unguarded shithole despite there being at least 8 named ones that want it
>reds killing eachother>blues getting summoned and dying over and over and over again to npcs>yellows sprinting off into the map never to be seen again until they severWhat the fuck, it's been retard after retard as I level my new arc guy.The only good guy I've seen was a gold that went through Stormveil with me called Trogdor.
>>483975101>movement so that your attacks come out 4 frames faster making them unreactable and shortening your dodge recovery windows to make you unpunishableWait what?
>>483975102>pedo worshiping fagFalse allegations, he was Miquelested, brainwashed and had his memories selectively blocked to ensure compliance.
>>483975032you'd find her dead somewhere
>>483975170>Alive>Rya
>>483975115i'm sad to hear that since i love status effects
>>483975223You said there were 5 outer gods which "directly lead to endings that completely change the world" that are being stopped by RadahnName them.
SOOOOooo.....You're telling me that Miquella used Mogh's body to make a 1:1 Radhan with the armor, the skill, the weapons and everything?
>>483975170Boc and Boggart can live though depending on your choices
>>483967295miquellai'm glad we got a shittier version of griffith
Damn bros, I am a certified Fromsoftwarebro and think the expansion is basically a 10/10 no exaggeration, but Radahn is very unfun. Dude is turn based, they need to slow his shit down by 30% at least.
>>48397354215/10 design but dogshit to fight. Bravo zaki
>>483975374You can literally see the Omen horns around Radahn hands. He bursted out of Mohg like a huge flesh cocoon.
>>483975374He's the most fearsome empyrian for a reason
>>483975451Boggart's is a workaround though, it's like Sellen's quest where you can spare her by just not completing her questBoggart's actual ending to his quest is getting gayraped by the poop man.
>>483975374Didn't Ansbach say he used Mohg's soul
>>483975170>neph, ryakillable via quest>gockstock, kenneth, ranni, bairnperfectly fine
>>483975170Roderika, Tanith, Boc, Jerren all live though
>>483964065AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAYOU RIKE?
>>483975484Radahn weakest part of DLC by a long margin IMO. His reveal is lame, his fight is lame.
>>483975284Still an omen hornigger so he deserved it
how do I get into Temple Town ruins?
>>483975541Nah just Mohg's body, mohg's soul got basically binnedThat's why Ansbach is so mad
you guys told me divine bird feathers is strong wtf.
>>483975374>1:1 RadhanHe's way shorter than the real Radahn since Mohg was a manlet by comparison.
There's a Madness/Rot/Bleed/Sleep/Poison increases attackIs there a "Frostbite in vicinity increases attack"?
>>483975486Those are part of his armor for some reason
>>483975484That's how I felt about Rellana. She wasn't super unfair or anything but the fight was literally turn based and after a couple tries it was boring me to tears just waiting for my turn.>roll through 6 hit combo string>slap her twice because I'm greedy>narrowly avoid being punished because two was too many>roll through 6 hit chain again>do this 36 times to win
Is there some gimmick I'm missing here or am I supposed to just keep killing this guy forever?
>>483975580>Roderika>livelollmao!
>>483975223I don't get it, is this a meme? Some form of super autism? Wtf lmao. Can you form a sentence without buzzwords, please? You don't even sound like a human being.Ranni doesn't have a god. She's a moon lady. The moon is a cosmic force, not a sapient thing like the Outer Gods. Outer Gods, the Frenzied Flame, ect, they are not infinite all powerful things. They are cosmic forces that are lonely - literally a microcosm to themselves. This tracks even in the base game. This is about the only thing the DLC didn't fuck with. Well. For the most part.>Greater Will has been gone the entire time.That is dumb as fuck and makes no sense but whatever. It can kind of work, Metyr punishing those that kill her kids, but except not really because it takes 1000 years to get a response apparently.
>>483974765>The most plausible theory after the DLC is still that the GEQ was actually Marika during her edgy phase, and Maliketh was being puppeted by the Fingers/Metyr to bring her to heel.This could be it actually, would also explain Melina's birth. Melina is just that aspect of Marika cast away and manifested into physical form.
>spank some gank using taunters tongue >they stop using tongues for the much comfier 2v1 advantage >start kiting them through mobs>they boot up a cheat engine to insta-kill me Jesus christ I thought it couldn't get worse
>>483975580it doesn't matter if theyre killable by quest. we're looking for 100% survival rate assuming you dont attack them randomly
>>483975580>TanithQuest conclusion is you killing her and stealing her loot.>BocFucker was in Leyndell at the wrong time. His loss.>RoderikaStaying in a burning Erdtree with Hewg.>JerrenCanon ending is siding with Sellen. Otherwise he just disappears from the game.
>>483975698he only gets up twice
>>483975698You need to kill it thrice.Absolute trash boss, I hate separate bars.
>>483975651marika sexo
>>483975698He has a limited number of livesidk if there's a specific weapon you can oneshot him with thoughmaybe black knife or messmer spear idk
>>483975698You gotta do it 3_ times
>>483975753Just block the fuckers and move on.
>>483975796Nah it's a great gimmick unironically, I was shook as fuck when it just got the fuck up when I killed it
>>483975587I don't the story, I thought it was a cool twist but I also didn't spend the last 2 years licking Godwyn/GEQ's taint begging for scraps from obviously irrelevant characters, or defending a character that was obviously always mind raping people. The fight itself just takes the absolute worst part of the combat and blows it up to 200%.
>>483975796it's all in your head, one bar or two or even three doesn't matter, the amount of hp is what counts
The legacy dungeons are bit lame in dlc, Belurat and Enir-Ilim are too samey, Shadow Keep is just dull (but I like how it gatekeeps you from a bunch of other areas, reminds me of that hub area from Bloodborne). Specimen Storage is classic fromsoftware "endgame big library" location. At least the music in Belurat is amazing.
>>483975872how do you do that
>>483975632small hole in the wall
>>483975749That would work amazingly well, espes seeing as how we have Milicent as a great example of gods being able to "bud" like that. Plus with how Melina came into the world...Pretty sure this is exactly what was planned.
>>483975753Reminds me of poopa exposing himself as a cheat engine user yesterday
>>483975586FAGGOT
>>483975753>not having your own CE ready on demand with a hotkey for situation like thisthis is basically invader 101
FFS do we really still have people in here coping pretending Melina isn't the GEQ? KEK fucking SAD
>>483976012The eternal nuclear arms race of dark souls
>>483975948literally just find them in steam/ps5 recently player list and block them, you will never invade them again
>>483975918>I thought it was a cool twistFor me the problem is that it doesn't really make that much sense even in hindsightTweests have to make sense for them to be good, you can't just tweest shit out of nowhere and expect people to be okay with itThe Snow patriarch getting his head cut off in GoT s1 was a tweest but it made sense in retrospect so nobody complains about it
>>483975928But that's the point. It doesn't change anything mechanically, therefore it's just there to fucking annoy me.
>>483976012how the fuck can you use CE online?
>>483976082who are these voices you are hearing? What do you think you're reading? We're discussing her origins and such. Ya weird freak.
>>483975770>Canon ending is siding with SellenMore like head canon.>Otherwise he just disappears from the game.So what? He finishes his task and leaves. But this is bad for some reason because he won't stay in a single spot forever reapeating his last line.
>>483976102It doesn't show up in steam recent players bro
For something as major as the Frenzied Flame you'd think they'd add more than 4 incantations for it
>>483976235Yes they do
i really want to stick my fingers in st. trina's mouth and play with her tongue till her mouth gets all wet and slimy. then i'd try sticking my fingers really deep down her throat
Realistically, where does Fromsoft go from here?They’ve expended pretty much all the mechanical possibilities of their almost 20 year old engine at this point. And ditto the story. They’ve made the same game 5 times now and as impressive as it all is, it feels like they’ve deadended themselves. I’m sure Miyazaki is sick of it at this point and ready to move on.Elden Ring ends, fittingly, with a gay shota fanservice lorerape particle spam final boss. Who is also a reused asset.It’s so fucking over.
>>483976309None of it matters. None of this matters.
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>>483976082melina is just marika's kid, confirmed as messmer's sister
>>483976323ummm no
>>483976356giga nigger
>>483976309They added a perfume, a torch that may as well be an incantation too, a fist weapon and it all synergizes together
>>483976336c-cute!
>>483976139It makes perfect sense, you just have no le meedeeuh litturusee. Radahn was always the only Demigod free from all outer gods and influence. He's simply the strongest warrior of the age, akin to Godfrey from his time. It takes a group of people to take him down at the absolute lowest point of his existence, while he barely has any sentience, and he was still holding back the cosmos around the planet. There is literally no comparison, Radahn is the strongest, and Miquella wants the strongest lord so no one can ever challenge his godhood. Godwyn and Malenia were always failed backup plans.
>>483976356retard
Power levels>Radahn+Miquella>Marika/Radagon pre-shattering = Ranni Age of Stars = Miquella ascended>Elden Beast>Marika/Radagon post-shattering>Maliketh >Placidusax before injury = Bayle before injury>Malenia if cured of Rot/if she gave into the Rot -phase 2 is her still resisting Rot, she has not transformed like Romina and you can still inflict the status on her->Placidusax after injury = Bayle after injury>Godfrey>Mohg phase 2>Morgott>Radahn>Malenia resisting Rot>Rykard -there's a reason he's playing the long game->Messmer>Ranni -Who knows, she can kill the Tarnished at any moment with a glance but that's the only reference we have for her strength, was she unable to kill Blaidd shadow or could she just not bring herself to do it?->Miquella -mindcontrol does not = powerlevel>Melina>Godrick
>>483976345If they're smart, they go "well we did what we wanted to do and make a 'hard game' for the people that were brought up on Dark Souls, so we'll go back to our roots but with more experience"I don't care if it's easier, I don't need every game to be some new milestone of artificial difficulty. I don't want to reach the point where half the bosses are as obnoxious as Consort Radahn. I just want old Dark Souls-type fights back in Elden Ring-type worlds. I don't want to be fighting Sekiro bosses with the same shit mechanics I had back in DkS1Since they made such a huge deal out of this 'not being Dark Souls', I'd also want them to simply expand upon this world and keep giving answers rather than keeping them vague. Have an actually consistent world for once instead of a bunch of fragmented new beginnings that kinda-sort relate to the previous games that were untold ages ago
Ranni never becomes a true god, I don't know why people keep parroting this shit. She just places the Lands Between in the """"guidance"""" of the moon and fucks off to space
>>483976390You're literally too stupid to bother invading.
>have fun while riding on the donkey, experiencing the atmosphere of a world that is ruined yet beautiful in its own way, feel genuine excitement to see more of it>see a fog gate for the next boss
>>483976687>Malenia pre-rot is better than Radahnlollmaogo lose another arm you dumb bitch, get off the internet
>>483976336AAAAAA I WANT TO MAKE HER HAPPY
>>483976575Yeah except nothing ever implies that what Miquella is doing is even remotely possible and nothing ever implies that Miquella and Radahn had anything to do with each other except for Miquella sending Malenia apparently to kill RadahnThis would've been before Miquella abandoned his love, and also apparently Miquella was physically present at Aeonia? Which doesn't really work timeline-wiseIt's a mess dude, I don't care about Malenia or Godwyn or whatever it just doesn't work
>>483976806nice co-op history or whatever
Reds are now getting angry that people they are invading are using dlc weapons as well, and are not helpless victims.
>>483977078Malenia v Radahn never made ANY sense until this reveal. You can see Malenia whispering to Radahn in the battle. It was always planned. Miquella is a user. He used Malenia. He used Mohg. Now he's using Radahn.
>>483977358>It was all planned>5 years of game development>2 years for the DLC>shitty tier writing that no one likes, ending feels like a modded boss fightummm...good job?>never made any sensebecause we had nothing related to them, how the fuck did you expect it to make sense?
>>483977096No idea what you're doing wrong, but i'm just going to assume you're some turd worlder playing off the family share
>>483977358>It was always planned.lolLmaoBut maybe I'm being too harsh. If you truly believe this, I'm happy for you. Honest and true. I'm glad you can still believe in things like this. To see the world as you do with the wondrous innocence of a child's mind.
>>483977628Nice post-rationalization retard-kun
>>483977515>>483977657Cope shazamniggers
>>483977701As i said, i have no idea what exactly did you do to literally break Steam when it works for literally everyone else as you can find by googling it.
>>483977358>Malenia v Radahn never made ANY sense until this revealYeah but it didn't contradict known lore, such as Miquella being kidnapped back when Queen Marika was still active so that she could feel grief over it, and yet Miquella being around at Aeonia (explicitly a battle of the Shattering) to heal Freyja. That's the actual problem, active contradiction.
>>483977358Parts of it were planned.But the story is subordinate to design.So they ripped it up and used parts of it.Radahn is pretty obviously a massive retcon, so they didn't have to design a new boss, and could just reuse his animation as an easier framework.
>>483973175read the description of the item you fucking homunculus
>>483976205I've seen people freeze there HP and have unlimited flasks, but never seen someone directly affect another player before. Sounds like BS.
>>483977714QUICK! DAMAGE CONTROL!!!fuck off retard
>>483977358>never made ANY sense>Miquella wants to trigger an eclipse>can't do it with Radahn holding the stars in place>sends his blade to merk himThere, makes perfect sense. Or they just fought for fragments or shits and giggles because Radahn has a fightboner.
>>483978546What did Malenia whisper to Radahn?
>>483978676>I'll rot your cock off, carianigger
>>483978676>"forgive me, Radahn"
>>483978986Damn, I kneel. It seems I am the lorelet after all.
>>483977837>Yeah but it didn't contradict known lore, such as Miquella being kidnapped back when Queen Marika was still active so that she could feel grief over it, and yet Miquella being around at Aeonia (explicitly a battle of the Shattering) to heal Freyja.I and many always suspected Miquella compelled Mohg's kidnapping. It was also clearly set up. It was no kidnapping.
>>483978986>Hates Carians>Hates Rot "people"I get it now.Malenia, the Racist.>>483979540(nta) That's unrelated to him getting kidnapped before or after the Shattering.
>>483977882>Radahn is pretty obviously a massive retconNo it's not>so they didn't have to design a new boss, and could just reuse his animation as an easier framework.nothing was reused it's a completely new boss, with a new rig tooPeople who complain abotu Radahn and wanted Godwyn don't understand that Miquella's relation to Godwyn is only limited to Miquella discovering Deathblight and using it
>>483979623>god of making people into mind slaves>description says he can make people into mind slaves>'uhm that's unrelated sweetie'kys
>>483978676I am Malenia. Blade of Miquella. And I have never known defeat.
>>483979540The timing is the problem, not whether or not Miquella wanted it.
>>483979623What are you even on about dude? we always knew he was kidnapped AFTER the shattering and embessed himself. All the Eclipse rituals and Soulless Demigods for the Haligtree was after the Shattering, using Deathblight for it. Miquella was never kidnapped before the Shattering and nothing ever implies the opposite. It also wouldn't make sense since Malenia would do something about it. Previously, we just assumed that Mohg did it when Malenia wasn't home (Battle of Aeonia). Now we know the Mohg plan started right after Malenia gave Radahn AIDS, which also makes sense.I swear the more people on 4chan try to dogpile on the DLC story, the more you just show you didn't ubderstand the base game
>>483979780Are you okay?>Miquella was kidnapped, Marika cried>Except that he knows up in the Swamp of Aeonia>This also means that the "Shattering" didn't corrupt anyone, this promise to fight was something they had before it even happened>Oh, but maybe Freyja just imaginated things?They all understood very clearly what Miquella did to them once the Great Rune broke. And Freyja hallucinating him healing her isn't what happened. I don't know how bewitching Mohg or not matters here.
>literally out of healthIT ISN'T FAIR
>>483979540>Miquella compelled Mohg's kidnapping.Why did he need to get kidnapped if he could always mindrape Mohg? Did he just want to hang around with Mohg coursing through his veins?
>>483978676P-please fuck my brother before he turns thirteen!
>>483980138What the fuck are you talking about? You sound insane right now.
>>483980121>embessed*embedding>>483980081No it's not, it's the first time I even hear people assume the kidnapping happened after the Shattering. That would make no sense and actually retcon a lot, like Godwyn-Miquella interaction and attempt to kill the corpse, Castle Sol, the spirit rituals and the Mausoleum Knights
>>483980209We don't really know if it's clear if the kidnapping part was in the plan, but he certainly compelled Mohg's love in order to use him to access shadowland, because Mohg could be used for that for some reason? It could be that Mohg's affection just became kidnapping and he rolled with it. Mohg is a weird blood pervert.
>>483980209The cocoon itself and the blood sacrifices are important. Mihg uses bloodboon by opening portals to the Formless Mother sp Miquella saw a way to the Lands of Shadow
>>483980121any other pics like this? please... it's so hard having an ultrawide monitor...
>>483980739Really fucking hot. Thank you. I will edit Radahn out of the picture.
>>483980515>>483980604How would Miq know that Mohg even existed in the first place? Think Miq's plan A was to access the shadowlands via Haligtree then improvised after getting nabbed by Mohg.
>>483981324Brother the fact that Miq charmed Mohg is not up for debate, it's said outright. I don't think we ought to be debating headcanon about Miquella not even knowing Mohg exists when it contradicts literally everything we're shown.
>>483980440>No it's not, it's the first time I even hear people assume the kidnapping happened after the Shattering. That would make no sense and actually retcon a lot, like Godwyn-Miquella interaction and attempt to kill the corpse, Castle Sol, the spirit rituals and the Mausoleum KnightsWell the problem is that Miquella was clearly physically present at Aeonia because Freyja says Miquella cured her, unless you think that Miquella could've remotely cured her while in the shadow lands in which case it begs the question why didn't he do it to all the cleanrots and other people who got btfo by it
I really want to like the idea of i-frames on the back hop, but this isn't ds2 anymore. I can't think of anything a back hop would get me out of that wouldn't just instantly delete me on the next eighteen fucking chains in the combo.
>>483981527>is not up for debateCorrect, what I'm arguing is that Miq charming Mohg wasn't part of some grand keikaku, he just came up with it when the circumstances changed and we eventually pop up. Otherwise why go through all that shit instead of just knocking on Mohg's door and ordering him to do whatever?But the thing still doesn't make sense, since apparently Radahn can just resist Miq's mindfuckery or there's some hidden clause in the godhood contract stating that it only counts if the consort agrees willingly.
I'm so fucking tired of arguing about this game, I already uninstalled it and they're not gonna make any new content, why am I wasting my life on this shitTake care bros
Radahn's whole shtick just seems to be he is a righteous dude who can resist all kinds of influence. He even fights off the scarlet rot that fucks all of Caelid up. He's just that strong. As for Miq>Asks Radahn to be his consort>Radahn says "no way fag">Miq chimps and sends Malenia to kill Radahn>Meanwhile he charms Mohg to access the shadowlands via cocoon>plan goes south here>Mohg either kidnaps him because the charm works too well ("Miquella is Mine and Mine Alone"), or Miq plans to be taken and expects Malenia to come murder Mohg for him after killing Radahn>either way, things don't work out, Malenia is unable to kill Radahn or Mohg, and Miq is trapped in the Shadowlands>tarnished comes along and accidentallys the entire lands between putting Miqqys plan back on trackNothing seems to be contradictory here.
>>483983695meant for >>483982901
>>483980958
>>483981852And why is that a retcon?That still he means he git kidnapped after the Shattering, and embedded himself in the cocoon after the Battle, during Malenia's slumber
>>483984298wrong pic my bad
>>483980739translation please
>>483984832Because what about Marika's grief at Miquella? Marika was no longer active during the shattering.
>>483985068any others you feel like dumping? or link to where you got them from? i want to use these as wallpapers. landscapes are good too but bosses and their respective arenas work as well.
>>483985070DEEPL:King of Elden ShitShitty WeaponsCompared to RadanFootstool LevelKing of Shit, mesmerize me and stay away.
>>483983695People just wanted Godwyn and "The Eclipse", which is pretty stupid and I'd argue it comes from a misinterpretation of Godwyn's role in the story and what Miquella hoped for the Eclipse to achieve. Godwyn is more like Wolnir than the Nameless King. When Miquella witnesses Deathroot, he decides to use it to his favour, like Sulyvahn with the Profaned Flame. If we axtually got the Eclipse like the base game explained, that would just mean Miquella could have a bunch of demigods hewn into his Haligtree by harvesting their souls from the Erdtree itself. This would obviously destroy the Erdtree in favour of the Haligtree, so if anything it could be an alternative ending if Miquella hadn't been cut for the DLC, but was never going to be a DLC ending because the Haligtree is kaput and the Eclipse makes no sense now that the Demigods bodies have been used to duplicate Remembrances
>>483986216people also expected and wanted Kaathe for DS3's final boss instead of was some bum artorias rehash
>>483983695>Nothing seems to be contradictory here.Nah>Miq can charm Mohg and everyone ever, but can't/won't charm Radahn and Messmer, because reasons>game (Miq, Freyja) tells you that Radahn willingly made the vow with Miq>supported by Radahn going along with the consort keikaku even after Miq's rune broke and his charming powers went poof and big guy's soul getting stuffed into Mohg's corpse>ok but then why did Malenia and Radahn fight and throw a massive wrench in everyone's plans?>invent headcanon that says that sometime before the showdown with Malenia, Radahn had a change of heart about his vow>so apparently Miq sent Malenia to kill Radahn (which didn't really work out), so he can nab his soul and stuff it into Mohg's corpse, hoping that Radahn would go along with the consort thing even without his mindrape powers compelling Radahn to do so>while also knowing that Mohg is a thing>and instead of finding an easy solution to getting Mohg's body, bide his time in a cuckoon for shits and giggles>or maybe Miq thought that he could mindrape Radahn's soul, despite not being able to do that before It's a complete mess, anon.
>can only carry 4 of the new superpowered weapon greases>but can carry 30 of the same drawstring oneswhy
>>483987136>Miq can charm Mohg and everyone ever, but can't/won't charm Radahn and Messmer, because reasonsCan't charm Radahn, that's Radahn's whole thing, resisting. He doesn't need to charm Messmer, he has (You)>game (Miq, Freyja) tells you that Radahn willingly made the vow with MiqNope, nothing Miq says can be trusted. He thinks he can do no wrong.>supported by Radahn going along with the consort keikaku even after Miq's rune broke and his charming powers went poof and big guy's soul getting stuffed into Mohg's corpseWrong. Miq can charm us in the fight. He literally charms Radahn in the cutscene as well.Everything else you wrote was incomprehensible schizo headcanon so it doesn't deserve a response
>>483987643>Everything else you wrote was incomprehensible schizo headcanon so it doesn't deserve a responsecope
>>483987643>Can't charm RadahnWhile charming everyone else.>He literally charms RadahnAfter his rune and his charm over the randos broke.>schizo headcanonI see.
>>483985757i don't even remember desuSteam Hub probably
>>483985503She was always active, she is the one effectively giving grace to the Tarnished.
>>483987136>but can't/won't charm Radahn and Messmer, because reasonsRadahn and Messmer don't follow the guidance of Gold, so are immune to Miquella's Rune>>supported by Radahn going along with the consort keikaku even after Miq's rune broke and his charming powers went poof and big guy's soul getting stuffed into Mohg's corpse You got the whole timeline wrong bucko
>>483988473and how would Gideon have gotten wind of her grief while she was stuck in the tree
>>483988802>You got the whole timeline wrong buckoHow? Miquella's great rune breaks and his mindrape powers disappear before you face Radahn. And yet big guy doesn't protest at all, just goes along with the thing he allegedly opposed.
>>483989873That's not Radahn, that's an Omen apparition of Mohg shaped like Radahn and with Radahn's soul.He doesn't even show his eyes when Miquella joins, and you know what that implies in Japanese media>>483989551It doesn't say that Marika knew or that it happened before the Shattering. It just comments on the state of apparently sad state of Miquella and the Haligtree.But Gideon doesn't actually know a lot about Miquella and Marika. Actually he doesn't know much about the Haligtree either. He doesn't comnect the Mausoleum and the Eclipse ritual to Castle Sol and the Haligtree either. He doesn't even know much abput the base game lore.Gideon is kind of a fool, that's the whole point.
I saw a webm of someone fighting a Tree Sentinel in the DLC, but after exploring everything and tieing up all lose ends I still haven't come across one.What area did I miss?
>>483990968>That's not Radahn>Radahn's soul
>>483992337Correct, if you played Elden Ring and had the attention span of a fully grown human being you would know that Soul /=/ Mind, and the Spirit is the union of both Soul and Mind and an individual is Soul, Mind and Body.
>>483992735>an individual is Soul, Mind and BodyGuess Ranni kind of forgot about the third part of the Cursemark.