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>Latest patch
https://en.bandainamcoent.eu/elden-ring/news/elden-ring-calibration-update-1122

>Main information document
https://rentry.org/erpasta

>Character planners
https://eip.gg/elden-ring/build-planner/
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/19Op36P7gdVMkPzFQX6OsjZcfyUjdGOj7Cjk9qFAVj-U/edit

>Interactive map
https://mapgenie.io/elden-ring/maps/the-lands-between

>Group password
erg

>Previous
>>484212341
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This you? I have some news....
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>>484223583
>equip 2 utility talismans
>do shit boss damage
what a surprise

just change your tallys for boss bwp
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bwp
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the person responsible for the DLC writing
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>>484223542
>combat ordeal
>fire knight cosplayer vs me (vyke cosplay)
>all he does is spam Messmer's Flame and abuses his L2 button using the Messmer's Giant hunt
I hate shitters and metamen so fucking much
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>doing co-op on my faith guy
>new FP Regen Talisman and the Ancestral Charm means I can keep up Golden Vow and Regen on everyone all the time
>damn fucking cool support like build
>do subpar damage to the boss
>ended up carrying Perfume on my build because boss health with Co-Op'rs is ridiculously high and none of these fucking retards pick up fragments
How do I do lots of damage to bosses as Faith if I don't have 80 Faith? I'm on 60 Faith because I wanted to make a Paladin type guy rather than a full on caster...
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Reminder if you don't have a foot fetish you didn't beat the game
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>>484223542
>lore is retarded
>false advertising (8 weapon types and one of them has 1 weapon), no ending
>a shit ton of glitches from weapons not applying bleed, from dryleaf seal not working, falling off the map in certain areas, changing locations (rauh scadu/altus), getting stuck and dying
>item descriptions cuts, random mentions literally zanzibart tier
>performance issues
>barely any enemy variety, empty areas, shitty rewards, reused base game enemies

>the lore will be explained by youtubers, even if it doesn't make sense
>everything else will be ignored, negative reviews will be reduced to "shitters who are calling the game hard"
how does he do it?
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just made it to radhan
damn you guys weren't kidding, this is straight up unfun
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Anyone turned this into a build yet? I imaginr it Would be fun dodging around at highest speeds and using blue dancer charm, casting some of the slickest and long-range incants in the game
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with all the cool things in the lore, why did they make the dlc about some twink kid and fucking radahn?
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>>484223542
how do I reach this one? Started a new game and chasing down all Sneeds and Tears first
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>>484223859
Radahn is the coolest boss. And Miquella is pure sex.
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>>484223750
It just works.
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More feet posting.
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>get the Viridian amber medallion +3
>expect a decent stamina difference like going from +1 to +2
>difference of three fucking points of stamina
I don’t feel like I’m being unreasonably mad when I say this makes me want to gouge out someone’s eyes with a melon baller.
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>>484223760
My favorite boss in the DLC.
Wish I could rechallenge him.
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Where in the DLC do we learn more about Messmer's "flight from the Erdtree"?
Is there any sign of in-fighting among Messmer's soldiers?
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>>484223750
>insanely broken shit that was clearly never tested (rolling sparks lol)
>balacing around scadutree fragments killing co-op and any motivation to replay the dlc
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fuck forgot pic
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I'm thinking of doing 3 pseudo rp runs. I havent done this in about a decade so id like to ask your opinions on them
One will be age of fracture, the other age of stars, the other frenzy
Age of fracture: Strength build, barbarian named Horgal, he's from the same tribe as nepheli and despite not having the surname claims and takes pride in his potential descent from Horah Loux. He seeks to become elden lord like his great assumed ancestor.
Age of stars: A str/faith character(with a little int) a squire in search of glory, never landed, and lived in disgrace for his suspected mistrust of the fingers in his homeland, upon a chance encounter with blaidd he quickly finds many of his grievances justified and dedicates himself to aiding ranni in severing her ties with the fingers becoming her final and most trusted knight and consort
Frenzy: Pure faith, Isaac the mad lord, born the fourth son of foreign royalty, he died in battle attempting to keep together a now collapsed kingdom, upon his resurrection he's called to the lands and quickly grows attached to melina and a young blind girl who soon meets her end. Throughout his journey its all he experiences, suffering and those he grows attached to driven mad or being killed, whatever joy he had quickly turning to despair and resentment at the state of the world, eventually learning of the "true" nature of reality he embraces the three fingers to melina's chagrin, seeing the flames as the only cure for the world's ailments and the only way to ensure that none have to suffer in the future.


All kinda cringe but I have some yeah
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>>484223859
everyones gay for Miquella and reddit? showed fromsoftware Radahn prime mod and shit just snowballed from there probably.
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Is Messmer actually cursing Marika as he dies, or is he calling out to Marika then cursing (You)?
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>>484223714
>Had a game earlier of my Dagoth-Ur cosplay set against a Greirat cosplayer
Most kino match I’ve had since the DLC dropped. Almost everyone else is a try-hard faggot but special hate goes out to people who buff at the start with Golden Vow but jump you the second you try to copy them.
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>>484224053
>>484223893
from the seethewater river
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>>484223893
>>484224053
the seed? go passed milly (altus) ignore the bote boss and head around the volcano to alexander (post radahn 1), the glowing tree is unmissable.
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>>484224103
>everyones gay for Miquella
why? all you see of him in the base game is a withered hand popping out of an egg
I dont understand why this of all things is the biggest shit in the lore for everyone
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>>484224212
thanks
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>>484223917
i want to cum on them
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>>484224121
It wouldnt really make much sense for him to be cursing Marika since hes still sitting there doing what she told him to like a good boy, unless the idea is that hes just so mindbroken he cant do anything else
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>>484224121
he's cursing his mommy for abandoning him
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>>484224335
That's the interpretation I've largely seen, people going MESSMER DESPISES MARIKA
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>>484223997
the Black Knight ashes both mention them rebelling when they learn of Messmer's serpent powers, the crusade being so bloody that Leyndell was put off by the slaughter, various soldiers among the Golden Order being swayed by the allure of Crucible powers, and Miquella trying to smooth things over with the Hornsent after years of bloody war which was probably controversial...

Messmer took a lot of heat off of Marika voluntarily, but since she got jailed for breaking the Elden Ring, she couldn't bail him out.
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Bros, what in the everlasting fuck am I meant to do about the gravity rocks / aoe + clones in Radahn phase 2?
Can get phase 1 flawlessly without taking a hit, then phase 2 happens, the light after hits are whatever, it's just the fucking gravity shit that rapes me.
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>>484224387
I mean, he still defends the shaman village. If he hated Marika, why wouldnt he just burn it down or something? Why would he continue to protect it?

Makes no sense
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>Host does Howl of Sabibi
This nigga already dead idk why I'd bother
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>>484224252
>why?
even Rico (cut content, writer of fevors recipe ie sleep pot) thought (s)he was a cute girl back in base game
the aged body in the shell was Miq trying to break the eternal no aging curse and he's not even in there he fully astral projected and fucked off to the shadow realm.
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>>484224121
he's cursing marika you esl. he also turns towards the statue again in his death animation.
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>>484224404
Do you not like Miyazaki's genius idea of making the boss more difficult by adding endless AOE that makes it impossible tibsee anything?
Even the Emden beast on release was more enjoyable than nuDhan
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Holy fuck, Eternal Darkness works on the furnace golem fireballs.
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>>484224552
Could also suggest he's calling out to her, I think you're the esl if you can't see how the line is ambigious
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>>484224607
only if you're far away
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>>484223704
Is that real? Please tell me it's real.
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It is time for your daily Smithscript Weapon shilling.

Brought to you by Anon. True Weapons for True Anons.
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>>484224534
Rico has been remade into Igon
Which he's pretty kino now
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>>484224491
People can be confused anon
Like his remembrance says, he became the symbol of terror his mother wanted him to be, though he prolly didn't want it deep down
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>>484224616
lol
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>>484224404
gravity rocks are magic so, black hole (eternal darkness) or THOPS "I cast antimagic in every direction, even if I run out of FP" barrier
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>>484224727
I accept your concession
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>>484224306
Go ahead anon.
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>>484224404
Run sideways and jump when you think you should roll.
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>>484224404
run back jump left for rocks keep running back for clones then roll left+in
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>>484224335
Just think of him as Maliketh/Hewg. It's the cause of their suffering but they can't get themselves to hate her.
Or since Miquella is blonde, is the "Eternal" (child), this would imply that his bewitching powers come from Marika, and that's why everyone acts like that
>>484224534
Him putting his body in the Haligtree was to make it grow.
>he's not even in there
That's a huge asspull that they did but oh well
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>>484223704
Miyazaki is the one reponsible. 100%
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I wonder how long until they nerf radahn.
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>>484223828
fuck casting spells with it, its for beast claw builds
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>>484223917
ANSWER THIS IF YOURE ALL SO SMART
WHAT DO MARIKAS FEET SMELL LIKE
WHAT DO MARIKAS FEET TASTE LIKE
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What's the link between Miquella and the Frenzied Flame? Why did he make a needle to seal it?
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>>484224823
I genuinely wish we could see the original script. Imagine if we get because Kadokawa getting hacked
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>>484224932
The needle was for all outergod influence it was meant for malenias rot. The flame of frenzy is an outer god
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>>484223991
sorry man but I just don't believe you
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>>484224932
the needle works to seal the influence of every outer god, you just get it from malenia in thanks once you return the needle with the sense of self, dignity from millicent
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>>484224834
How long did they wait before nerfing him in the base game?
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>>484224761
can I really?
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>>484224895
They smell like flowers and taste sweet.
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>>484224689
cool
I should really stop fucking around and get into the dlc (been grinding a character for a whole ass week cause there are new holy spells I could use with them, but need/want marikas sword first, just maliketh and boss rush left now)
>>484224804
its a little more complicated than that, he abandoned fundamentalism but harbored no ill will to marika, the holy tree (halig = holy) was an attempt to become a different type of god and cure his sister. st trina helped him by letting him sleep the whole time, then at some point things changed/didnt work so he had mohg steal him away to reach the realm of shadow, drawn by the sacremental blood.

if I've lost 90% of you thats fine, you have to read item descriptions to INFER some of this.
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>>484223828
Yes. Quite a lot.
blue dancer is useless here. That's physical damage. The heart is for lightning damage. You can't actually afford to sack defense even with this, as boss fights practically have no "long range" with everything jumping immediately from there to you.

Thankfully you can reach medium armor amounts of defenses with the Greatshield talisman, black flame, and either Vow or Florissax's Dragonbolt.

In regards to damage, you do a lot of it thanks to her mace debuffing. To the point that the only thing keeping me from not going exclusively all in on arcane to buff the mace's lightning bolt is general flavor.
20% for the form
17% for the charged mace
20% from flask
8% from gowry
You can then potentially take scorpion (or much more safely) Ritual Swood Talisman for a 15%

With, Ancient Dragon's Lightning Strike or Knights Lightning Spear it hits pretty fucking hard and is relatively easy to play

Wish the same could be said about the communion flavor. Even going all in you're going to die before you recover from your attack.
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>>484224685
I've been using dual daggers and haven't looked back. Attacking bosses during their windups is crazy
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>General Radahn, a pleasure to see you after all this time
>But those remains do not belong to you
>Lord Mogh will have his dignity
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>>484224712
>>484224804
Pretty much. I think hes probably just a sad guy who acknowledges and hates what his mother did to him, but also would have probably forgave her if she returned (Hence why even to this day he protects her home village)

Saying "Curse you, Marika" could be meaning something like, "Why did it have to be like this, mother"

Poor guy.
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>>484224491
>>484224712
Shit that broke him is the fact that Marika is marrying a Tarnished. The same type of people he has been exterminating.
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>>484225056
m-mother...
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>>484225056
Artist sauce?
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>>484225151
his name is mohg
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>>484225045
I can't remember. Few weeks?
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>>484225045
like two patches
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>>484224685
>mfw enemies try to approach me while I'm running Smithscript Shield and Axe
I'm fucking untouchable.
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>>484224761
>>484225053
You know, I think the world would be a really great place if you two died in a car collision today.
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>>484223730
The FP regen talisman and Ancestral Charm are dungeon spelunking talismans, anon; swap them out when you reach the boss. If your main source of damage is swinging that sword around then maybe use the Shard of Alexander and the Two-Handed Sword Talisman.
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>>484225119
nice
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The most annoying thing about being a summon is that the moment I lose the boss aggro because the host is desperately trying to pretend to be useful the host gets instagibbed.
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>>484225065
I'm aware of those things even if I personally don't like the "Mohg stealing him away was planned". I'm talking more about the fact his body is in the cocoon, it's mentioned at the very least twice. Yet it's actually not his body since he's discarding it in the Land of Shadows.
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bit random but may help someone
I put spectral lance on the guardian swordspear the other day while testing a more tanky kind of holy set up (while lacking the END to back it up)
spectral lance does insane poise damage on that thing like one hit knocks halig knights, and then you can walk up do it again and get a free headshot with the spear for multiplied bonus damage.

probably for people who want something before getting messmers spear.
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>>484225065
>marikas sword first
you mean hammer? or do you mean the beasts sword?
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Daily reminder that Malenia is an absolute failure of a sister and is more of a hindrance than help for Miquella's plans. Even the Tarnished is infinitely more useful for Miquella than her.
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>>484224685
Tell me about Golem Fists patricianshill
Why do the Golem Fist R2s use up more stamina than any other weapon in the game, even more than a Giant Crusher
Why do the Golem Fist projectiles travel less range than a spear poke
Why do the Golem Fist projectiles lose half their damage beyond their melee range
Why do Golem fists give either 269+B str or 228+A str scaling at best
Why do Golem fists have a +27% stamina consumption modifier
Why does the smithscript talisman only give a measly +10% buff
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>>484225193
Probably
His whole life his mother sealed his "shorn of light" form, just to see her cling to the tarnished, another lightless creature, as her last hope
Jealousy, betrayal and anger is what he felt
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>>484224804
>this would imply that his bewitching powers come from Marika, and that's why everyone acts like that
Would make alot of sense
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>>484225375
but that's the funnest part
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ok so why does fucking nobody talk about how messmer keeps saying we don't have grace?

We do??????????
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>>484225409
yeah that's what it's there for. the poise DPS is kinda ass though when you could be spamming impaling thrust instead
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>>484225193
Its funny since the tarnished may not even marry her but he doesn't know that.
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>>484225572
i'm not sure anyone but the tarnished know that tarnished are getting guided by grace
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>>484225384
I think its to do with butterflies and their transformation, if that was him in the cocoon he shed that on the way through.
I hate the other possibility (spiders. im arachnophobic sue me.) and refuse to believe its that also butterflies tracks more (nascent = miquella, aeonia = malenia, fire = melon, pyrefly = messmer)

>>484225442
I mean the sacred relic sword marikas sword the elden beast sword. if I meant hammer i'd say hammer

>>484225582
yeah but, free range
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>>484225660
we can't just fucking be like "uh yeah we do have grace, your mom gave it to me"
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>>484225572
You are tarnished. Not having the light of grace is your main thing. You are guided by it, but it's not yours.
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>>484225698
no talking allowed in this japanese murder simulator
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>>484224978
You mean the original stuff Martin wrote or the original outline for the story based on what Martin wrote?
Because I think most of what Martin wrote is pretty intact, just hidden beneath Miyazaki's weirder stuff.
Like Night of the Black Knives and Godwyn make a good example.
Godwyn as this perfect golden prince but he gets unceremoniously killed off in a brutal fashion and his death, executed for selfish reasons, kicks off a massive civil war.
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>>484225660
Leda, Dane, and her allies does figure out you are guided by grace not Miquella's crosses which is why they gank you..
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Lorewise, would Godfrey have beaten Radagon + Elden Beast if we didn't make it to him in time?
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>>484225572
we have guidance, not golden eyes. we can see it but we don't have it.
some lose it entirely. roderika apparently never saw it.
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Well? /erg/? did you try skill ahead? why is it always weak foe?
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>>484224978
there's also
https://www.gamesradar.com/games/action-rpg/hidetaka-miyazaki-says-shadow-of-the-erdtree-focusing-on-miquella-is-about-completing-elden-rings-circle-and-honoring-george-rr-martins-contributions-to-the-open-world-rpg/
cool way to honor the mythos by shitting all over them with gay incest and gibberish item descriptions
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>>484225797
Radagon? Absolutely but the Elden Beast would've been impossible for him.
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>>484225797
Was that even his goal? His grace was directing him towards us, not the tree
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Parry makes Radahn trivial.
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>>484225840
>not golden eyes
I do have golden eyes though. Yeah I kinda had to eat a bunch of dragon hearts for them but it totally counts. Also how can he see my eyes? I wear a helmet!
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>>484223750
>item descriptions cuts, random mentions literally zanzibart tier
Examples?
>performance issues
I honestly haven't had these in the DLC but, funny enough, while replaying the last stretch of the game starting at fire giant, at least one cutscene pre battle (Godfrey's phase transition) was weird and choppy.
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>>484225916
gay incest is grrmcoded though
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>>484225949
His grace was pointing at us to prove to Marika who was stronger
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so fucking tired of "reee gay incest dlc bad" go play some actual woke shit you fucking never read a book in your life only following popular thing retards
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>>484225949
We were in the way. We were meant to die, stay dead, and for him to be elden lord again. Our revival isn't controlled by mary
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>>484225556
She does have some mindcontrol powers.
Golden remnants of the grace personally bestowed by Queen Marika to the heroes who joined the crusade for her. Use to gain 80000 runes. The brilliance of Queen Marika's grace blinds even the very best.
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>>484226050
gay incest is where miyazaki and grrm cross over, it's why they're perfect for each other
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>>484225945
If he beats the Tarnished and absorbs their runes, I believe it would be possible given that by that time you have enough great runes
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>>484226063
Yes I'm sure gay incest is a common topic in every franchise. My favorite part of Thinner was all the gay incest.
Shut up, dude.
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>>484226063
At least it's aesthetic gay incest
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>>484225023
I am serious, its the one boss that you need to really learn. Just put some defensive gear on and learn one string/ability at a time until he cant surprise you anymore.
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>>484225215
https://www.pixiv.net/en/users/33734063
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Is the dodge boost talisman worth using?
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please tell me that whatever is there is worth it
I dont want to keep doing this run back
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>>484226287
anon...
you can drain the water, New Londo style, and then get it without a problem
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>>484226287
it's a skibidi
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>>484226287
that's a skibidi if i remember correctly
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>>484226165
Should have been malenia
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>>484226287
its a toilet
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>>484226063
Mindcontrol shota gay incest is a hit too based for the average normie.
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What lvl is everyone around for pvp now since the DLC is out?
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>>484226287
lol
lmao
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>>484226136
Imagine the old man yaoi between them. Who do you think tops?
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>>484226437
200
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Do I need to summon anyone for Messmir and Radahn fights for their quests or I am free to solo them?
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>>484226540
yes for both
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>>484226437
I completed it all on 125 and get instant invasion procs.
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>>484226145
The problem is Godfrey is kinda getting old. He'll be a big fat target for the Elden Beast to kill.
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so was one of messmer's eyes fake and used to seal something away?
was the same true of melina?
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is it just me or is
>80 dex
less AR than
>55 dex, 37 str (55 2 handed)
?
for the same level investment?
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>>484226615
I think his remembrance or something tells you about it. His eye was a seal put in by marika to keep the serpent at bay
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is there something like dung pies in this game? im at radahn's and i don't wanna lose the 12 million runes i have stocked
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>>484225375
If you don't help you get a toxic message saying you're a shit host. If you want to solo bosses for hosts then you need to say so in your name.
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>>484226815
i just buy smithing stones tbqh
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>>484225949
To reclaim the title of Elden Lord but the Tarnished is on the way so he has kill you. It's kind of refreshing to be like a boss battle against a powerful NPC for once, From should do it more often.
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I'm a shitter who can't dodge 100% of things
Bulking up with damage mitigation feels really good for me and I can be more aggressive, get hit, and still not die!
The problem is even with 32 END and Jar talisman I can only use smaller end weapons.
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>>484226815
SHRIMP
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>>484226739
Depends on weapon but generally S/- is worse than A/E or Quality.
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>>484225695
Ice Spear has more poise damage iirc since it's faster, but I guess the range is smaller.
>>484226027
The two uhhh spirit ashes duo and Gaea are the ones I can think of
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>>484226178
it's not a matter of surprise so much as the nonstop spam on my screen and attacking my framerate directly
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It's so weird how in base game there were excess golden seeds around the whole world. Then in the DLC there is exactly 50 scooby shards. Seems like a weird design choice.
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>>484226907
ahhhh but blackguard died to dung eater on this file
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The original Elden Ring script had fart porn and fart battles.
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>See a section you can't access in the top floor of the storehouse
>oh okay maybe I missed something let me retrace my steps
>don't find anything after an hour, memorize the entire dungeon layout
>wtf

>you have to do a completely separate multi hour long detour that starts by going SOUTH from the entrance of the dungeon to get to this section
Seriously?
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>>484226146
>shut up dude
no.
read greek mythology you fucking hack
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>>484226815
Buy all the boiled crabs, arrows, throwing knives, smithing stones and crafting materials
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>go for a pure dex build
>no hybrid stat point allocation so just go for higher END and whatnot, blue dancer charm etc
>tfw entire game becomes 15x easier with lightrolls, even when my damage and ash of war options are generally worse and I have no spells of any kind equipped
Just got the game last month because of the DLC. Did they nuke midrolls from orbit because of DS3 or something? Or are the bosses just so punishing now that even DS3 midrolls aren't particularly impactful?
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>>484226994
You don't get his bell bearing?
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>>484226905
Unless you also want to poise max, you don't need to wear the heaviest shit. The majority of absorption comes from talismans and spells/items.
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>>484226425
Very based.
Wish I knew more than 1 artist that did fanarts of both of them together
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>>484226437
if by pvp you mean invading, 180 minimum if you upgrade every new weapon you find to +9/+24 and regularly top up on consumables
if you mean discord cancer then idk, they are probably at the same level
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i want to be kicked in the face by an elegant barefoot woman
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>>484226063
what does being "woke" have anything to do with the matter? I don't care about social movement garbage at all and certainly not culture war buzzwords.

I just think faggots are disgusting and I do not like seeing them, nothing else to really say on the matter.
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>>484227136
all it has is rya's necklace for some reason, might have skipped this guy entirely idk
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>>484227164
this thing staggered midra on his own for me
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So what exactly is classified as "blood oath and "dynastic skill" because the set ansbach drops increases those 2.
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I can't decide to go for str/int or str/fth both seem cool but i'm indecisive as fuck
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>>484226943
>Ashen remains in which spirits yet dwell. Use to summon the spirits of Jolán and Anna. Spirits of two Swordhands of Night, one of them being possessed by Count Ymir's doll Anna. Together, Jolán's sword and Anna's claws are as bottomless black, and penetrate the enemy's guard. Jolán and Anna were born in a cold, dark gaol, where they were raised, deprived of light, to be Swordhands of Night. Thus were they cultivated to become the most terrifying masters of their blades, though the burden of the deed left their hearts frail and pliant.
Only thing here is
>one of them being possessed by count Ymir's doll Anna
Should likely be
>one of them possessing count Ymir's doll
Or something?
The other one is just clearly an auto correct mistake that was left in the game and never fixed.
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>>484227172
Murderqt
Finish what Messmer started.
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>>484227172
Total.
Hornigger.
Death.
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>>484226615
it's a soreseal
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>>484226610
Not for Hoarah Loux, WAAAAAAAAAARIOOOOR
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>Complete entire Midra area with Frenzied Flame mark
>No hidden content

Kindly go fuck yourself Miyazaki.
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INT feels kinda weird in this DLC. It didn't get much, but it also got some of the most ridiculous tools.
Gravitational Missile singlehandedly replaces all melee sorceries but Slicer. It's more versatile than anything you can use in melee range, it can be used as a continuous gravity field. Gaius' sorcery ain't too shabby either. Spinning Gravity Thrust and the new Frost Stomp are fantastic too. Fleeting Microcosm is great. Miriam's vanishing is so fun i get the feeling people will discover the full potential of that spell for years, especially in pvp where you can phase through coopers with it and counterattack with spells immediately.
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>>484227258
because you're equating mythology with modern sensibilities so you're complaining about "gay incest" ie complaining about woke shit, when there is far worse out there (ubisoft)
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I hope this place is as cool inside as it looks form outside
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>>484227164
i love this guy
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>>484227070
it's also more annoying when you realize that there's a single door connecting the front and back sections that you simply cannot open
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>>484227230
Imagine how fucked up their child would be... should have been canon
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>>484227251
Cute feet anon.
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>>484226905
Slap on any medium shield and just spam barricade shield AOW.
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>>484227271
That's so weird. Guess no shrimp for you then, buy arrows and daggers instead.
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>>484227359
the dps on grav missile is a lot lower than moonblade but the knockdown is nice
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>>484227379
sadly its really boring and uninspired on the inside
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So is it ever explained why nepheli has her toes out? Isn't that impractical?
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>>484227172
kill all hornniggers
unless you're a pvp metaslave, in which case help hornset to get the most broken ash of war
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>>484227359
slicer isn't a free win anymore you can sekiro deflect it, its rather funny actually (pvp)

the one that pisses me off to this day is mlgs beam, doesn't travel as far as it does visually, pisses me off every time.
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>>484227454
Gravity and knockdown is far more important than pure dps.
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>>484227164
why aren't they attacking
>>484227379
this is the place that has the worse grace to grace parts of the game, hope you enjoy
>>484227348
melina goes apeshit the moment you're near the 3 fingers but she doesn't care about the lord of frenzied flame...why is elden ring soulless
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CURSE YOU BAAAAAYLE!
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i clapped when i saw rellana do the unused pontiff animation
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>>484227318
str int is basically just rannis questline weapons i think

str faith has a lot more synergy in general and lets you cast more spells
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>>484227535
maybe on NG
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>>484227164
are there any player skills or other spirit ashes with this comical level of knockback
plenty of knockdown skills and wraths but I can't think of what sends people actually flying away like a rocket
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>>484226437
people are still invading at 125, 139, 150, 166 and 200. But mostly 150 and below.
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>>484227318
str int is for gravity weapons which have int tax to use their broken ass skills
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>>484227595
It's even more important on higher difficulties. Making enemies helpless or killing them via gravity >> pure dps
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>>484226425
Malenia isn't big enough for god Miquella to ride piggyback
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>>484224685
>cold smithscript hammer in one hand
>one-eyed shield on the other
>arrow reach talisman
>can alternate between throwing stagger/status projectiles or knockdown bombs at lock-on distance
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Does Malenia say anything different if you enter her boss fight with Miquella's circlet?
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Why did Miquella apologize to a h*rnsent "person" for a "genocide" when (((they))) exterminated his forefathers?
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>>484227505
Yeah. What's up with that! We get so much finger lore and no mention about toe lore. Where is DLC about Nepheli's feet?
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Does this attack tank your guys' fps as well, or is it just my poor pc?
And can you even dodge it fully? I keep fucking it up.
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>>484227601
ogha

>>484227671
no need to knock anything down if you one or 2 shot it with comets
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>>484227359
>Spinning Gravity Thrust
very sad that it's a strength ash and doesn't scale with INT at all
seems to be designed for spamming status buildup
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>>484227538
>this is the place that has the worse grace to grace parts of the game, hope you enjoy
there are like 5-6 enemies total on the critical path between grace points and only 1 of them is a challenging enemy at each step, rest are trash mobs
no platforming or mazes, no traps

anor londo rooftop section alone is 100x worse
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>>484227318
strint is fun but outclassed by pure strength weapons that have int ashes so it becomes weird early on. (catacomb statue cat hammer with croizer)
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>>484227587
you rike gaijin thanks for the 40 dollars
>>484227725
no
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>>484226437
Trannoids still duel at 125. Invasion level was propelled into the stratosphere because DLC shits runes.
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>>484227718
Just make him smaller
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>>484227587
did you also clap when radahn did the used pontiff animation
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Thought there was a patch today guess i was lied to
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>>484227749
i had to drop all my settings to low just to prevent that yea.
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>>484227749
works fine on my ps5
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>>484227616
>But mostly 150 and below
invasions at 180 are instant
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>>484227856
you ungrateful little shit, i blessed you with reused assets after 2 years of dev time and now you want a patch too?
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>>484227856
The only patch to today is fixing the exploit that let you get your opponent banned instead of dueling him fairly
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>>484227241
>>484227819
idk how the pvp community can cope when competitive pvp currently seems to come down to some rock paper scissors shit with like 5 broken DLC weapons

shit like
>infinite damage perfumes at point blank range
>constant homing captain america shields that chunk for 1/3rd of your health with royal knight's resolve
>swift slash spam that true combos and has i-frames
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>>484227768
It seems to scale with your base weapon damage which means INT can use it perfectly well too.
Absolutely brutal on cold infused weapons.
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>>484227587
Crazy how Miyazaki wasted the best Souls villain by making him a mid boss in the most uninspired Souls game to date.
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>>484227943
Yeah I dont doubt this. by "people" I mostly meant the wider community, redditors, people that follow the bigger youtubers. so on and so forth. I was merely providing the simplest and widest reaching answer.
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>>484226615
There was a theory some anon posted here that Marika originally had the snake inside her, aswell as her other half (Or perhaps her original form alltogether) being the gloam eyed queen. She "Removed" these aspects of herself, sealing the snake shit in Messmer and the GEQ in Melina

Could be argued this is why Miquella tried to do what he did in discarding parts of himself (St Trina, his emotions etc) - he was trying to mimic what Marika did. Perhaps Rykard was also mimicing this but in reverse, by re-adding the serpent to his "Family" (Would make sense why it would be seen as blasphemous).

Could also explain why she has Radagon inside her, since the lack of the dual entity thing wouldve presumably left a hole that could have been filled by something else (Radagon). Still dont know what or who Radagon is though (Maybe just a creation of the greater will? Hence why he forged the Elden ring and tried to mend it, whereas Marika broke it iirc) ((Could also explain why Radagon can easily be turned into a fucking sword at the end of the game by the elden beast, if hes a creation of the greater will))

But this could all be bullshit, dont know if theres much to back this up, just something to think about
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T0fduL3soxY
>they are the good guys
>only other talking kindred of rot guy we know off tells us to betray millicent, probably raping her
okay i guess?
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how much END do I need to be a real tank? no jar, erd2 for weight. the rest of the talismans would be shields/pearldrake/greatshield to improve greatshields guard like focusing on armor over damage level of tank
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>>484228042
>souls
>competitive
>pvp
This meme will never stop
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>>484227538
>Worst Grace to Grace parts in the game

Nigger there's like 10 enemies and at least half of them can be backstabbed. Balurat was more unforgiving.
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Anyone fucked with dryleaf arts? What talisman synergize with it? Does shattered stone (kicks/stomps) work well with it? Notable healing with godskin swaddling? The jumping R2 seems pretty good so maybe the jumping talisman but do you find the charged attack to be fast & reliable enough to use godfrey icon?
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>>484228042
what counters what

perfumes can't get in range of madness torch
madness torch is too slow and outranged by discus hurl
throwing gets mogged by a gap closing swift slash
swift slash ?????? loses to nothing??
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>host gets aggro first time in bossfight
>dies immedaitely
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Why did the DLC shaft Malenia so hard? I'm not referring to some meme cuckshit discourse, but that she gets pretty no mention or reference outside what she whispered in Radahn's ear.
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>>484228138
0 endurance, just give up a flask tear slot for infinite weight
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>>484227587
How did From make so much new content for ds3 which took less time to make than Elden Ring which borrows so much from it?
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>>484228126
didnt watch that one, but, gowry and the pests aren't exactly evil, they wish malenia would embrace the aspect of rot and become their god instead of being disgusted by them
milicent is a "clone" of malenia so gowrys plot is justified in his mind, and returning the needle after helping her says it has dew on it and implies it would impart the pride malenia threw away to meet radahn back to her. (which completes the needle enough to be used at the end of time)
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>>484228120
given that St. Trina is Miquella's "love" manifested as a person, I've heard that Radagon could be Marika's "pride"
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I killed the cheating faggot knight in the mausoleum that had hacked in a machine gun. Then I put a summon sign down to go kill him again. That was DaS2 levels of enemy tracking.
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>>484228238
I was using ice ash of war. Fun fucking weapon.
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>>484228342
>host stacks the entire game's worth of buffs for 10 years
>dies to malenia's grab in 10 seconds
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>>484228238
Shattered stone seems to buff the damage on kicks with Dryleaf and Dane's Footwork by 10%. Divine Bird Warrior Greaves boost kicks by 5%, Palm Blast is generally a fantastic ash of war in pve, havent tried it in pvp but the martial arts suck dick in pvp right now. Palm Blast seems to have actual hyper armor and nothing can stagger you out of it, as for GSC, have tried it.
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>>484227359
The big fucking void between Spinning Gravity Thrust and Aspect of the Crucible: Wings has me feeling all kinds of ways.

Wings is potentially stronger but it has no armor.
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>>484228369
not viable can be completely buttfucked by law of regression / 3 minute timer
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>>484227230
more
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>>484228389
yeah and i will still call them evil
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>>484224642
Works well enough.
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>>484228357
If you think about it, Malenia has been nothing but a headache to Miquella and his plans. Makes sense she won't even get mentioned by her brother
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I have been invading with the broken ash of war and got to 200 arcs farmed in 5 days :/
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>>484228238
Fun moveset but absolutely pitiful damage. Bound to get buffed in following patches.
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>>484228617
wait that is so fucking cool wtf
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>>484228238
they are great, shattered stone works, multihit talismans work, jump talisman works very well
palm blast is amazing due to hyperarmor, high damage aoe and knockdown
good poise damage too, I had three builds ready for the dlc and it's difficult not to just make each one use infused dryleaf. at the least every character has one in their empty offhand slot

>>484228527
>Palm Blast is generally a fantastic ash of war in pve, havent tried it in pvp
if you stack damage buffs you can OHKO ganks with it
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>>484228660
which one?
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>>484228453
I beated him with no skibidis, and the fire basket. I sure hope you guys got good and didn't use the difficulty slider items................
>>484228601
it is your right to decide this, the world is different from a variety of perspectives. (he hurt milly so he dies, I can get behind that, but mainly for the faith talisman)
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>>484228617
the heck
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>>484228641
all of his plans were because of her though
>>484228617
touch it
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>>484228402
The fact love was the quality that manifested as its own persona tells me that it was his strongest trait.
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>>484228641
She's part of the reason his plans began, and her only failure was not killing Radahn. Though she sets up his death anyway.
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>>484227325
>>484227330
>>484227515
That's what I was leaning to. I don't like the Horndudes.
Thanks anons
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>>484228617
impressive, very nice
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>>484227379
What the fuck do I do about the fat cunts spamming holy circles on the ground on the stairs? They appear in random places and I can't fucking dodge them all
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>>484228120
Radagon didn't forge the Elden Ring, that was Marika. Or if you subscribe to the other theory, ER was already there as early as Placidusax having all his heads.
That said, Marika abandoning parts of herself could be the case but we don't know if Miquella was trying to copy Marika necessarily. The closest we get to that is the Miquella rune description
>A Great Rune relinquished by Miquella. Broken and bereft of its bounty, it retains naught but the power to resist charms. Miquella set off for the tower enshrouded by shadow, abandoning everything—his golden flesh, his blinding strength, even his fate. All in an effort to bury the original sin. To embrace the whole of it, and be reborn as a new god.
I wish we had some Jap capable anons that could get us the Jap text, that always has more insight. With that said
>All in an effort to bury the original sin. To embrace the whole of it, and be reborn as a new god.
If the original sin is Marika's betrayal and ascension in spite of having no right to it, then to bury the original sin would involve compensanting for it, hence why he offers apologies to Hornsent and his people.
To embrace the whole of it could mean to accept what Marika did and become a new god knowing the mistakes.
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Are there any important pose breakpoints to try and aim for for pvp?
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>>484228707
>>Palm Blast is generally a fantastic ash of war in pve, havent tried it in pvp
>if you stack damage buffs you can OHKO ganks with it
ONE PUUUUUUUUNCH!

but seriously its the Saitama ash of war you can't fool me.
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>>484228617
>anon makes his own eye of sauron
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>>484223542
What shield stabby weapons are you guys using? Ive only tried the Silura Spear for my crucible night cosplay, but what are good weapons for shield stabbing are there? Is Gauis's any good? Seems short.
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>invade
>red already fighting host
>wow an easy invasion
>red turns to me and just starts spamming fire snake at me
>host runs up and 2 shots him
>kill the host

I dont understand was this duel faggotry
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>>484228778
Yeah and also she's a massive failure and an idiot on top of that.
>failed to kill Radahn
>bloomed at the Haligtree and Caelid
>Embraced the Scarlet Rot when the Tarnished defeats her for the first time. Making Miquella's work and sacrifices useless.
It's no wonder she didn't get mentioned at all.
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>>484228876
like wearing nothing at all < 51 < 81 < max < using endure and hyperarmor instead
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anyone figured out what the exact trigger/area for miquella's rune breaking is?
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Maybe i'll replay dark souls after dlc..
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>>484228497
So the moveset and damage is good enough to use something other than it's signature ashes?
>>484228527
>Palm Blast
>>484228707
>palm blast
Oh damn, it's really that good? I was going to use whirlwind since it's flashier but i'll experiment with palm blast too. I'm STR and don't want to respec so maybe palm blast is better for me since I won't be able to proc status with the extra hits. I've been hoping to get a faster STR weapon when I don't feel like using my Guts sword so this might be it for me. Going to take them into Auriza hero's grave and see how they feel against the crucible duo
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>Miquella sacrifices himself on crosses so he can redeem the original sin
>Messmer is a snake
>Final boss is called Ramadan and had a child bride
I think Miyazaki mixed up the Abrahamic religions up a bit
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>>484228951
OUTSKILLED
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>>484229039
>>bloomed at the Haligtree and Caelid
Both of these are irrelevant.
>>Embraced the Scarlet Rot when the Tarnished defeats her for the first time. Making Miquella's work and sacrifices useless.
Has nothing to do with Miquella at that point, and can't even said to be chronologically prior.
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>>484229072
their main strength is their speed and poise damage, so they might not feel great against crucible knights
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>>484228870
>it retains naught but the power to resist charms.
i wonder if resisting the appeal of godhood was the main power of his great rune, like an ego check
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>>484228951
I recognize that spin
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>>484229039
Imagining big Radahncock tearing apart her little brother's bussy made her start BLOOOOOOMING too hard, please understand.
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>>484229039
No? Malenia embracing Scarlet rot is a blow to her own pride, not to Miquella. He wanted her alive and cured, which can still happen.
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Is it possible to go to the bottom right area that looks like a misty crater when you zoom in?
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>>484228843
You forget that she infected the Haligtree with her Scarlet Rot and then bloomed for a 3rd time to become the Goddess of Rot, making Miquella's plans useless. Her failure to kill Radahn made Miquella's plans nigh impossible because Radahn is the strongest demigod.
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Smithing Art Spears looks like an attack from a base game, what was it called or which enemy used it?
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>>484229270
Yes
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>>484228951
The bear roar has a deceptively large hitbox.

I take that into co-op when I'm playing on my Faith Guy. It will kill Invaders a whole floor above you if you use it under them. It does about 1.4k DMG at 80 Faith. Absolutely brutal fucking tool. People are seriously sleeping on it. It's also a god tier invasion tool for setting up ambushes.
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>>484228876
111 poise so 1 handed medium weapons become useless against you, otherwise 89-90 poise to tank the second 2h r1 of medium weapons
if you use hyperarmor weapons, then see the image
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FUCKING WHAT THE FUCK IS THIS GARBAGE
FUCK YOU
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>>484229230
Malenia would probably use the excuse of being miquella's personal bodyguard just to stay in the room and watch her brother being deflowered on the wedding night
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Wow... Euporia is really hard to use. I hope they severely nerf the amount of hits you need, I just shredded Mohg and still couldn't get it up to its max for the big payoff.
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>>484229303
Malenia never bloomed thrice.
The Haligtree didn't matter to Miquella's plans to become a god. With the DLC, I even struggle to understand its importance outside of maybe a test run for divinity.
>Radahn is the strongest demigod.
>Radahnfag
Please lead with this so I know better than to waste my time
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>>484224074
RP builds in an RPG aren't cringe. I hope you have fun.
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>>484228578
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>>484229423
>he didn't blast him from a distance with a Bow or Cannon
Scrub.
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>>484229135
>both of these are irrelevant
It is relevant because the Haligtree is where most of Miquella's supporters are. Now they're infected by Scarlet Rot.
>>484229260
Her becoming Goddess of Rot has everything to do with Miquella because she can no longer be cured as Malenia is now the Goddess of Rot. Remember they wanted the Rot to be stopped and cured, Malenia blooming for a third time made the Rot take control of her body.
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>>484226863
I don't mind hosts helping though.
It's hosts who think they're better than they are and get instantly bodied that annoy me.
Either be of passing skill to be able to help out with the boss or accept that you are worthless and sit at the back throwing out heals or something.
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>>484229423
tower defense
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>that one black knight twinblade boss
>more runes than rememberance bosses
I mean his combo is obnoxious, but he isn't that hard to beat
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>>484229054
ds1 feels too slow after playing elden ring
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Finally, I can cosplay as Shut Hell and slaughter Mongols
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>>484229459
nta
she is dormant and has bloomed thrice after we beat her. she will be the true goddess of rot in the next elden ring
the haligtree was Miquella learning how to use his pure blood to grow an yggdrasil since the GREATER WILL could NOT cure scarlet rot he had no choice but to "fuck it ill do it myself"
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>>484227721
>>arrow reach talisman
Stop pushing this, it doesn't work, it isn't real.
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>>484229702
Yes it does.
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>>484229459
She did though
>one at Caelid
>one at the Haligtree
>the final one when you fight her.
Again, if she wanted to be cured she wouldn't bloom a third time just to kill you. I'm not even a Radahnfag but it's clear why Miquella chose him instead of everyone else.
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Fucking hell, just barely made it.
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Pay allegiance to miquella the kind or say goodbye to your tarnished cock
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>>484229748
Prove it
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>get to the red flower area
>it's just one unfun enemy after another
what the fuck were they thinking?
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>>484229489
who's the artist?
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>>484229702
in what way? it effects spells you know
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>>484229769
I'm going to NTR Mickey by fixing Leda
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>>484229769
>*hide my cock inside her*
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>>484228246
swift slash has a wind-up with no poise, is parriable and has certain ranges where the double-hit aspect doesn't work (max range typically). its still hard to try to counter it, but generally i think if you avoid/block/parry it at max range the user is forced on defense

the problem is when the swift slash user gets 1 hit in, because then they can just keep chaining it at short range until the other guy dies
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>>484229767
good shit anon, thoughts on the boss?
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>>484229771
Dude, just equip the thing yourself and do it. It literally does work.
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>>484229546
>Haligtree is where most of Miquella's supporters ar
And not relevant to his actual plans. Now if you're going to go "well, miquella loved them anyway" then he might as well have loved malenia even if she never did jack shit. Boundless love is his whole gimmick.
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>>484229767
>buffs
>bleed katana
who's gonna tell him?
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>>484229823
>>484229748
It doesn't work in the way that it doesn't increase the range or the effective range of thrown weapons. I've tested this on spears and knives.

Haven't tried the DLC version of the talisman but I wager it's no different.
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Why are there so many fucking cook book rewards?
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>doing coil shield only playthrough
>get to the double crucible knight in the dungeon
>only one knight left and he starts using a new attack when hes almost dead and i die
yep no i did not beat the game i will come back when i find that somber 7 so i can go straight to 9 and fuck them up.
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>>484229931
Because hackzayaki is a hack.
That will be 40 dollaridoos.
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>>484229931
so you craft and get over your hoarding addiction
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>>484229691
my beloved
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I'd like to repost a theory I have about miquella
>we know the twins were close with godwyn
>we know now the twins were close with radahn
>radahn idolized godwyn's father
>theres a good chance radahn and godwyn were friends as well
>marika's reign started getting rocky after godfrey left we know the golden age ended and the faults started showing around that time
>miquella as per remembrance seemed to have at least began forming his plans since he was young
>malenia clearly knew of it, and radahn clearly knew of it, its easy to assume godwyn knew as well
>in both Japanese and English version he uses "we" and "our" when not talking about radahn so his vow involves at least a third party
>miquella is well respected amongst the demigods by other demigods(bar morgott) and non demigods based on vanilla elden ring
>seeing BOTH radahn and godwyn's kindness miquella knew he needed one of them to be his elden lord
>the dlc likes paralleling miquella with marika
>marika at the end of the game has two lord candidates she's fine with, godfrey and our tarnished
>both godwyn and radahn agreed to be miquella's lord with the other serving a different prominent role(like lord of limgrave)
>godwyn dies
>miquella tries his best to save him(he wanted to give his body true death as we learn in the base game) but fails meaning he can't properly go to the land of shadows
>miquella hyperfixates on radahn calling upon him to fulfill his part of the vow
>he either refuses or demands he be given an honorable death
>he and malenia fight and what we see happens happens
Basically I think their vow was a 4 way thing, between miquella, malenia, radahn, and godwyn, their vow being similar to that stereotypical group of young friends making promises to eachother you'd see in other Japanese media.
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>>484229857
Incredibly difficult, downright annoying at times, but I managed to find a tiny opening that helped. When he does the combo that ends in the ground slam and upheaval, it's only a 5 parter if he grips the blade in backhand, otherwise you can attack after the 3rd hit.

>>484229906
I didn't proc bleed on him once, and golden vow was used once at start. Show me how you beat him.
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>>484229931
its not like they can put smithing stone 1 (4x) on every corpse guarded by 2 giant bears
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>>484229702
>>484229912
Okay, since you retards need to be spoonfed. It works by increasing the damage drop off distance. So if you can hit for a 500 at 10ft, you can now hit for an 800 at 10ft because it's like you're closer when you're not.

It does work, it just doesn't increase the range you can throw.
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>>484229753
>>one at the Haligtree
Not Malenia.
> if she wanted to be cured she wouldn't bloom a third time just to kill you
Who says she cannot be cured? Who says killing Tarnished is somehow a lower priority when his mere existence is a threat to any plan?
> I'm not even a Radahnfag but it's clear why Miquella chose him instead of everyone else.
Suuure anon. I mean it totally isn't because the only other prospects are compromised or dead. Literally the only one who might lose out here is Godwyn but we know nothing about him.
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>>484229931
>thing people like the least is crafting
>a shit ton of cookbook rewards
>>484230109
uhhhhhhhhh
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>>484229701
>thrice
Once at Caelid
Once against us
Where's the third?
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>>484229794
onex111x
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>>484229767
>no summons
>no shield
>no broken weapon
Congrats, anon. You beat the game.
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i am so used to big weapon feels weird trying to play something like the throwing disc blades
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>smithscript hammer charged R2 is a launch, even when one handed
>the range is so huge that I can chain knockdown Fire Knights to death while they slow walk towards me
>>484229702
lol
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>>484229767
shieldchuds and rotchuds are NOT gonna like this game-beating post.
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>>484229872
>I can't prove it
Concession accepted
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how does one build for bloodfiend's arm is it a str weapon?
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>>484230169
before blue dancer guy sealed the rot god, idk, there are three rot areas in base game caelid lake of rot and haligtree.
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Why can I still level up after the dumb brunette sets herself on fire?
Why did I need a Maiden at the start but not later on?
Why was Hyetta and Varrè being your maidens cut even though all their voicelines were in the game?
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>>484230478
bleed infusion
Endure
Charge r2
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>>484230098
Iron fist+25
Gladiator armour
That's it
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>>484230478
only actual STR/ARC weapon in the game

i killed radahn on ng+5 in about 30 seconds with a 45STR/80ARC setup lol
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>>484230537
she leaves the power of rune leveling and torrent with you before even leaving you in the capital bro

there should be other maiden options that actually give you leveling (and challenge run to reach them) though i'd love doing that.
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>>484229202
Maybe.
Honestly, I'm just disappointed it isn't an equipable great rune. I really liked the great rune mechanic/customization option and I wish we'd gotten a new one for Miquella, since I think it was the last one missing.
I forget if Ranni's was the great rune of the unborn used for the respec.
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>>484230478
Bloodfiend's arm definitely lends itself best to Heavy, (A scaling) Occult (S scaling) or Blood (C/B str/arc) with 28 str req you only need 19 str to two hand it, Making Occult quite appealing imo. The r2's already basically instantly bleed shit without bleed but the real kicker here is that this fucker can be infused, ash of war can be changed, Cragblade with bleed infusion and charge heavy spam seems ideal. Filthy fucking weapon.
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>>484230116
The projectile of the hammer is not the same as the one of the other weapons.
The difference is very noticeable.
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>>484230169
One in Caelid, one at the Haligtree and the final one against us.
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>>484230716
>since I think it was the last one missing.
we still don't have Rannis.
I don't believe she "cast it away" either since she can instakill you.
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Malenia is harder than radahn.
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>>484229753
>it's clear why Miquella chose him instead of everyone else.
Who else was there?
>Malenia
Empyrean and Rotted. Recipe for disaster
>Ranni
Empyrean and no power
>Rykard
No accolades of note for strength
>Godrick
A bad joke
Radahn and Godwyn were basically the only options, and we don't even know Godwyn's status at the time Miq made his choice or if Godwyn would ever consent.
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>spiritgraves built where all manners of Death ultimately drift
what does it mean?
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>>484230670
War of the Maidens would've been cool
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>>484230116
No, it doesn't even change that. I've done the testing
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Replaying the game after completing the DLC twice and everything is way more depressing now. Marika just wanted to create a good world for everyone, but ultimately it all fell apart because her own poor decisions. But for a time it was good.
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I logged into my old character.
I am SL70, last remembrances ai have are Morgott and Rykard
Towards where should I continue? I kinda want to get to the DLC but preferably not brick any quests.
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>>484230456
Not that anon, but I'll prove it I guess. Here it is without it. Check the top buffs area. Not active. Tap r2 nothing else.
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>deflect tear uses the stamina
>the same stamina used as if you didn't have the tear in the first place
Must everything in the game have some sort of monkey's paw shit? No point in not just using this with a shield. At least you won't get gibbed by a fucked timing.
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>>484230732
>Ooooo SPOOKY SPOOKY SPOOKY GET SPOOKED GET SPOOKED GET SPOOKED GET SPOOKED
>THE HORSE IS SCARED LOOK THE HORSE IS SCARED
>Forced stealth segment against practically blind slow moving niggers that are kind enough to warn you a bit if you aren't blatant about not-stealthing it and you get a full explanation about the danger and the mechanics for the journos.
What the fuck were they thinking?
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>>484228120
>There was a theory some anon posted here that Marika originally had the snake inside her, aswell as her other half (Or perhaps her original form alltogether) being the gloam eyed queen. She "Removed" these aspects of herself, sealing the snake shit in Messmer and the GEQ in Melina
>Could be argued this is why Miquella tried to do what he did in discarding parts of himself (St Trina, his emotions etc) - he was trying to mimic what Marika did. Perhaps Rykard was also mimicing this but in reverse, by re-adding the serpent to his "Family" (Would make sense why it would be seen as blasphemous).
This makes a lot of sense. The Gloam Eyed Queen being Marika herself is another crazy idea, that would make the godskin also her children
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>>484231049
I got really fucking pissed when I tried to do a deflecting hardtear build after rushing it as first dlc item on one of my existing chars only to find out that nope I get fucking guardbroken on every hit because you can't deflect with a light weapon
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>>484230716
Great Rune of the Unborn came from Radagon after he gave her the Amber Egg.
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why is there still no lewd hypno asmr of miquella teasing my tarnished that I am a tarnished and could never be elden lord or his consort like some twisted innocent brat and then he realizes the hypnosis isn't working or working too well and I then break his bussy while he moans like a girl in heat
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>>484231030
Here it is with it. Same spot. I think this was a pretty accurate test. I don't think I did anything wrong.
The hammer projectile gets the most out of it I believe??? I think the Hammer Projectile is a bit different. But it's pretty decent with the axe and dagger too though.

I just realized I sent the wrong picture with no damage comparison. I'll send another.
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>>484231114
>forced stealth
Parry.
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>>484231114
After exploring that area the winter lanters should leak out and roam the dlc roads at night, like nights calvary. You were told what to do with them in their area now you gotta just deal with them roaming around in the wild
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>>484230798
I honestly don't remember how it goes. Again, wasn't the rune of the unborn, the one that Rennala has with her, the Ranni rune?
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>>484230137
>Not Malenia.
Yeah it is, that's why she turns into the Goddess of Rot when you finish her 1st phase.
>Who says she cannot be cured?
If she bloomed for a final time then that means the Rot has already won and is in control of her body. She would become the Goddess of Rot and curing her would be impossible because she is the deity of Rot, that's like trying to put out the Frenzied Flame or the Fell God's flame. Impossible because they're deities/gods.
>Suuure anon.
You really think Radahnfags would want their le wholesum horse lover to become Miquella's boytoy?
> I mean it totally isn't because the only other prospects are compromised or dead.
Actually there is a better option than Radahn, you, the Tarnished but like the Remembrance said (You) cannot be embraced by Miquella.
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>>484225464
because Mitsubishi hates boxing
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>>484223542
Now that the dust has settled, it's time. Time to pick your Top 5 Waifus.
>VOTE NOW ON YOUR PHONES
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>>484231049
What no? It reduces stamina used if your perfect block
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>>484231279
>freyja
madre de dios...
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>>484231238
The original picture I meant to post. So this is without it. As you can see the buffs.
This picture here;
>>484231238
Is with it.
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>>484231292
thats radagons and isn't really a rune but a piece of starlight amber

ranni supposedly discarded hers, literally killed herself forming one half of the mending rune of death, and then chuckied herself into a doll that looks like the ice witch who was her mentor
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>>484230798
Her instakilling you is because she still has a fragment of the Rune of Death which she uses against you.
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>>484231279
>Ansbach is a nigger
Leda did nothing wrong.
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>>484231265
this would have been absoloute kino
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The deep lore of elden ring is that my guy is here to kill everything because he wants to
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>>484231279
Ansbach is a BLACK?!? Why would mohg ever allow him in...
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>>484231440
Based genocide enjoyer.
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>>484231414
well damn that actually makes sense and without her holding onto a great rune, gg
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Are any of the new ashes good?
I do not expect any to be slime or Tiche levels, but there is something serviceable or with a niche?
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thats a lot of animals
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Shields? Parry? What's that?
I press Rock Heart
I press Rock Heart again
I press Mimic Tear
I press Dragonmaw
I beat the game
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>New seemless coop update has invasions
They can no longer escape the bad red man
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>>484231547
i like the teleporting demihuman
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>>484231576
what's the lore on this group of animals?
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>>484231279
>Freyja
dios mio... la creature...
Anna looks pretty cool though, and Leda with her dead eyes is very sexo
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>>484231603
They can be disabled in the mod's .ini lol.
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>>484231603
It unfortunately needs to be activated still as it's turned off by default and needs to be opted into through an ini edit.

I would be happy if they made it opt in but have it on by default, not off by default.
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>>484231279
>Ansbach is black
Buddy cop movie confirmed. He was 3 days away from retirement too.
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>>484231659
mmmmmm animal flesh tasty
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>>484231325
>
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>made a video wallpaper yesterday by sitting out of camera and leaving it for 5 minutes and hitting record (ps4)
>forgot online so ghosts could walk passed and ruin it but somehow no such issue
>but
>someone in group III became elden lord
ffs now I have to record it again but offline
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>>484231547
Jolan and Anna are good with bleed
Tayew is a good tank
Yoda (Yosh) has surprisingly high DPS
Cannon imp is a fun meme
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>>484229540
tiche needs more art
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>>484228641
>>484229039
Yeah because we all know Radahn is a paragon of success. Just look at how he
>lost to Morgot
>Rotted by Malenia
>Lost to Tarnished
and best of all
>was revived by a god and made a consort...then lost to Tarnished again
Don't throw stones at glass houses. Even Miquella is an utter failure in the end. That's the name of the game. Nigh everyone in this story loses. You're trying way too hard because the rottussy creases you.
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>>484231279
>Freja
FAS-lookin ass.
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>Jolan can be summoned to fight the tree sentinels the guard the shaman village
>Jolan has the blackfame symbol on her army asscioated with the GEQ
WHAT DOES IT MEAN
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>>484231325
How is Hyetta so low?
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>>484231408
>thats radagons and isn't really a rune but a piece of starlight amber
It says it's a rune. Never heard about it not being one.
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>Peko fighting Radahn
How many tries is this going to take?
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Is there a mod that unmasks Jolan and Anna?
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>>484231986
Indirect assosiation with the (((merchants)))
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It's their first open world and they already dunk it on the entired industry.
SOVL.
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>>484229767
You DID beat the boss.
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>>484231947
>successfully mastered gravity magic for his horse.
>managed to hold back the stars.
>Extremely respected by his troops and knights that they throw a festival to give him an honorable death
More successes than Miquella and Malenia combined.
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>>484232025
like, renalla is literally holding it and you can't equip it I don't know what else to tell you bro
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>>484231294
>Yeah it is, that's why she turns into the Goddess of Rot when you finish her 1st phase.
It is not. Malenia never became an actual god, and the items you attain from the flower belongs to the sisters. Malenia is not the only one who blooms, in case you forgot.
>If she bloomed for a final time then that means the Rot has already won and is in control of her body.
Yeah, that's why it didn't happen. Did you somehow miss the gigantic flower AFTER you beat her?
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>Peko beat Bayle using the same tactic you kill Midir with
>no summons
AIEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE I'M SO SORRY I CAN'T DO IT WITHOUT SCARLET AEONIA
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>>484223859
that was actually content they cut and saved for the dlc.

technically, miquella was pulling the strings right from the beginning and in cahoots with ranni and melina. the plan was probably for ranni to fuck off with (you) and miquella to rule with radahn.
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>>484232046
1000
>>484232083
can't you unmask npcs with ce
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>>484232125
If by "dunk" you mean
>showed everyone it's not automatic improvement to any game series
then sure.
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no but seriously though why did they just basically scrap melina as a character i don't get it
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>>484232125
>It's their first open world
SotE is their second crack at it. That said you can tell they learned a good bit from working on the base game's world, SotE's world is head and shoulders above it.
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>>484231985
Isn't it the fingerprint of the fingers?
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>>484232169
>>successfully mastered gravity magic for his horse.
To the interest of fucking nobody.
>>managed to hold back the stars
Which Radahnfags will cite day and night, because he flops in every other department against the actual characters who matter. Might as well say Malenia gets props for never losing any of her battles and beating fucking Godrick. Also has rot knights that defeated Radahn's redmane who love her unto sacrifice.
>Extremely respected by his troops
Miquella is loved by 90% of the cast.
How the fuck did you think this was an argument in your favor? How is it even an accomplishment in battle?
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ok I'm gonna actually play this shit now that the DLC is out
which one is more fun, sorceries or incantations?
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>>484230492
>>484230784
She never bloomed before Caelid, we know that's the first bloom.
>one at the Haligtree
When and how? She was in a coma after the fight with Radahn and only woke up to fight us. When did she bloom?
Are you talking about the second flower right before her boss room? That's Millicent's.
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>>484232046
shes got this, I saw her beat Malenia and elden beast
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isnt blood kinda like the best infusion for ng+

it actually increases AR once you hit high enough ARC/STR/DEX because it increases the scaling for those stats
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>>484232304
saving it for elden ring 2
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>>484232425
Incantations by far.
Sorceries were shafted big time.
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>>484232452
>blood
it's occult for ARC
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>>484232425
Incantations, level up arc aswell.
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>>484232169
>Radahn failed constantly
>Y-YEAH but he's so COOL, look at his horse!
Really?
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>moving away from an enemy while not locked on
>click lock on
>camera snaps around 180 degrees and you can't see what the enemy is doing
Some things never change I guess
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>>484232382
its is the fingerprint/face of Metyr but its both, perhaps the blacksymbol was made after the image of Metyrs face
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>>484232425
Most of the new Incantations are SHIT
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>>484232125
why are there animals there?
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>>484232425
you like water/ice/gravity? Int

you like fire/lightning/rocks? Faith
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>>484232046
>>484232450
Get the mother back in. Much more entertaining.
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>>484232441
>>one at the Haligtree
>When and how? She was in a coma after the fight with Radahn and only woke up to fight us. When did she bloom?
after we beat her, the bloom flowers in her boss room
>thats millicent
no, its not. she blooms before drainage channel if you betray her.

im probably wrong about the lake of rot part then, I assumed from her rememberance it was implying if she blooms again we're all fucked.
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>>484231717
It's turned on by default actually.
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>>484231279
>Thiollier is more girly than 75% of Elden Ring Female Character
Lol?
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>>484232425
*Activates Rock Heart* GNAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
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>beat boss after an hour
>why is it always weak foe
shut the FUCK UP
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>that furnace golem in front of the shadow keep
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>>484231294
Malenia never became a god. Otherwise she would have gotten "god slain" after the battle.
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>>484232425
I think they're both fun, incantations are generally slower but have alot more variation and different damage types. Sorceries are mostly magic with a few physical and fire spells, they are usually faster and put out more dps.
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>>484232452
At extremely high level blood is the best infusion in the game. It's literally just a better Quality
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>>484232643
just stab the legs, what's the problem?
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is that a hecking dlc weapon in my base game?
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>>484231279
>Jolan and Anna
my wives.....
>Rakshasa
What? It's a girl?
>Moonrithyll
>girl
huh??????
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>>484231821
>Cannon imp is a fun meme
it should have been the big cannon imp
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I don't kow why I had to fight Leda and her buddies because I don't know what Miquella is doing and what I am or am not doing about it, but it was a cool fight nonetheless
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>>484232893
Bro, read your item descriptions...
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>>484232208
>>Malenia never became an actual god
>boss name says "Malenia, Goddess of Rot"
Sure anon she never did lmao. Her name should've already given away that she did in fact become a God.
>>Yeah, that's why it didn't happen.
Anon what the hell what are you talking about? You can see her entire body is already infected with the Rot and she even has wings with Aeonian butterflies. She's completely different from she looks from phase 1 and she now has the Scarlet Rot effect+infinite Bloom to use. The Rot won.
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>>484232425
I would play Incantations more but from is so lazy with the seals all looking the same except for fucking 2 (Frenzy and the arcane one) that it kills my interest

Glowing hand looks shit and boring.
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>>484231279
Igon is just captain Ahab
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Why can't I have sex with rya bros...
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>>484232579
>after we beat her, the bloom flowers in her boss room
Right, that's the second bloom.
Anon, Malenia had only bloomed once at Caelid. We beat her and kill her and she blooms during that.
The flower you see BEFORE the fight is Millicent's. It shows up in that place but it's Millicent's bloom. Malenia's shows up in her boss room.
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Do you think Marika will be mad I beat up her Sentinels and walked around her village?
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>>484232893
>>Moonrithyll
>>girl
>huh??????
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>Mooonrithyll
How is this a legit NPC name
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>>484232973
>Her name
Malenia is called a goddess throughout the game, retardbro. Doesn't mean she bloomed thrice. We know she didn't because she blooms again after you won. We also know the bloom in the room before belongs to the sisters, not her.
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I haven't finished the DLC yet, but isn't it kinda bad in a sense? I've trashed most of the bosses I've encountered, and I would be okay with that if the preceding dungeons were good but they're all so short and simple, and EASY. What happened to the dungeon crawling?
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I have died to Radahn 400 billion times and never even got him low enough to do the meteor attack
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>>484233101
She will, but she will calm down after you explain to her that you paid your respects by cumming on her little tree and her grandmother grave while thinking about her.
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>Peko keeps getting scammed out of her ripostes and stance breaks by Radahn's phase change
Now that's some bullshit
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>>484231279
Do you think Thiollier has a nice bussy?
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>>484231415
>>484231490
>>484231730
He's black but he's that fictional black guy who doesn't act black at all and that's why people like him.
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>>484232939
>She
fuck, you're right. I was so disappointed with her Mortal Blade that I didn't bother
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>>484232570
they eepy
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I don't think a dlc that took 2 years to make should have the most blatant artificial difficulty ever
>oh just collect the skibid fragments bro
like come on
>epic dlc 70 hours long
>15 hours fighting radahn
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>>484232581
Is it? I thought it was off by default. Granted I only skimmed the download page.

Kinda cool if so. I don't mind people opting out of it, but most people don't read the pages descriptions.
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>>484232973
goddess of rot is just a name. if malenia was a bonafide goddess like the elden beast and miquella, you'd have gotten the god slain message. instead you get DEMI-GOD felled.

literally the strongest evidence possible, you speedreader
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>>484231985
metyr is associated with the geq (her "head" is the black flame symbol). the putrescent knight was meant to be the knight of the geq, but they cut that out and repurposed him for st.trina.
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>>484233101
Do you think Marika will be mad if I flay Radagon with the tooth whip?
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>play series well known for its difficulty
>it is difficult
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One of the final boss rewards should have been Miquella as a cape instead of those gay swords
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Would Marika be upset if I level my STR entirely so I can manhandle her with ease even though she's standing oral sized?
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>>484232634
>beat radahn & mickey
>didn't expect bloodstain..., all the more seek skill
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>>484233197
I played the DLC for over 40 hours and honestly, it's kinda mid once you get used to the pattern.
>shit tier bosses
>empty area
>dungeon
>
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>>484233240
Speak for yourself, on my honor as a chud I am compelled to dislike him and hang him from the skibiditree.
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>>484228617
Why tf are INTsissies winning? I don't like this. Meleebros, faithchads what's our response?
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>>484233396
are you having fun at least?
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>>484233307
Yeah I was playing with someone using the mod yesterday and I read through the ini settings and seen it on by default so turned that shit off.
There is zero anti-cheat when using the mod and that's just asking for trouble.
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>>484233197
Same for me. Breezed through every boss in the DLC and then got my face kicked in by Radahn. The DLC is really weird in that regard.
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They turned Numen ladies into glue? Into cement for union-approved construction?
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>>484233318
I'm not sure there's a single thing you could do to trigger her more
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>>484231279
>THIOLLIER
>MOONRITHYLL

SEXOOOOO SEXXXXX SEXOOOO TWINKS
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>>484233565
Moonrithyll is a woman
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>>484233226
Is really necessary for every single cute girl to die?
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>>484233313
>putrescent knight was meant to be the knight of the geq
Makes sense, his design just feels so random for Trina-related enemy, no sleep or anything like that. I guess his blue magic fire was supposed to be godskin flame.
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>>484233536
Let the Hornsent into her village
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>>484233627
Yes, Yoko Taro agreed don't bother them about it
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>>484232403
>To the interest of fucking nobody.
I accept your confession
>Which Radahnfags will cite day and night, because he flops in every other department against the actual characters who matter.
So no rebuttal then against that then.
>Might as well say Malenia gets props for never losing any of her battles
She did lose against Radahn. After the fight, Radahn is still standing while Malenia dropped unconscious and had to be carried back to the Haligtree. Being forced into an unconcious state while your enemy is still alive and standing isn't a victory anon. It's a miracle she wasn't eaten by a zombie Radahn.
>Miquella is loved by 90% of the cast.
Proven false by the DLC, he just charms everyone now. That's not "love" that's brainwashing.
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>>484231947
Reminder that they scrubbed Malenia waifu ending for this faggot shit
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>>484233605
Ruined...........
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>>484232425
Do you prefer blue or yellow?
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I'm so happy they added a bearskin pelt headpiece, even if it's a pain in the ass to get on a low level character. How do I bring out the most potential of this throwing hammer, or just throwing weapons in general?
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Would Marika be upset if I beat off in the Queen's Bedchamber?
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>storm powering talisman doesn't work on vacuum slash
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>>484233684
>She did lose against Radahn.
NTA but Radahn is a rotting cannibal with no feet or mind, meanwhile Malenia took a little nap and killed 8 gorillion tarnished when she woke up and then still didn't die.

Radahn fucking lost bro.
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whats the best halberd?
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>POV you're watching two greatshield bleed/rot poke chuds no skill their way through the final boss
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>>484232572
Gravity sounds cool, I'm assuming it's kinda gimmicky though?
>>484232737
How slow do you think incantations are? would you say they're too slow to be useful for solo play?
>>484233734
idk they're both pretty cool colours
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how do you prefer your souls protagonist guys?
>indomitable human will killing gods with basic weapons and wits
>chosen undead/of grace using mastery of magic
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>>484233902
dualwielded nagitanas
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>maleniatrannies and radahnfags are back at it again
Can you homos just accept that DLC made them both gay and retarded and move on already?
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>>484233847
Malenia had to retreat, or rather be carried out by one of her lackeys.
If you retreat you forfeit, simple as.
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what low investment buff/utility spells are worth getting for an otherwise unga bunga greatsword build?
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>>484233070
Actually, correction of myself
The bloom before the boss door is not Millicent's and is always there, but it also always has the Traveler's set which is worn by Millicent and her sisters. So it's one of her sister's blooms.
It cannot be Malenia's though because she was in a coma the entire time since Radahn beat her ass. Nothing implies it is.
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>>484233912
insane gameplay, souls games peaked
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>>484233912
>they don't know I beat the game for real
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>>484233756
Good fashion.
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>>484233902
Banished knight halbred
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>>484233998
And Radahn lost his mind and began slowly rotting away for the rest of his miserable existence. One of these two gets better. It isn't Radahn.
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>>484233483
Skibidi fragments ruin the majority of the bosses, I only enjoyed rellana/dancing lion/death knight forma duo axe and after that I was too overskibidi'd due to my autism and I just wrecked everything in the first or second try, even fucking messmer only took me 2 tries.
They should have properly scaled everything instead of this shit.
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>>484233684
>>484233847
Are we still having the "Malenia vs Radahn" discussion after it was all proven to be a fucking LARP by everyone involved so Radahn could have his "honorable end" and Miquella could have his fucking consort?
Are we this fucking dumb here?
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>>484233947
gravity can win the game using 1 maybe 2 of it's spells
they've got some real good stuff, but that's a double edge sword
they do have a "big body nuke" though in the form of meteorites

incantations can be slow, but not all of them. catch flame, the literal best spell in the game, goes pretty quick. lightning spear and knights lightning is medium speed, but it staggers like crazy so enemies won't reach you

i agree they're both cool colors. go INT/FTH
there's even a boss remembrance weapon. two if you count the staff
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>>484234047
all of the elemental resistance spells are available at only 10 fth
if you go to 12 fth you can get flame cleanse me and bestial vitality as well
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>>484233947
nah its pretty straightfoward it just deals physical damage most of the time. Weapons are also unga bunga
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Anyone made the “RADAHN THOU MUST INSEMINATE MY BROTHER” meme/pasta yet?
>>484223859
Miquella is cut-content/planned since the beginning.
Radahn was used because his popularity+ “Gotchu! Didn’t see this yaoi crackship coming eh?” twist for the sake of twist.
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I can't check myself now, is it true what a fextra comment says that the balance patch change requirements for ancient meteoric ore gs?
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>>484233756
Try the Arrow Reach Talisman, you can get it at Limgrave.
Aside from that, I think the hammer works really well with status, being able to throw hammers with 100+ cold or bleed buildup is pretty effective, the spinning motion from the regular and charged R2s also have their own hitboxes that build status for when you're fighting something at close range.
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>>484233756
I'm stealing this set up, but maybe throwing in the highland axe and a fitting shield
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>anons say miquella and leda say you're already elden lord
>get to them
>leda outright says she thinks you're here to BECOME elden lord
>miquella in his intro dialog calls you "ASPIRING lord of the old order"
Seriously /erg/ was this just a prank for anyone not far along in the dlc? Or were you just fucking with me? I feel like I've been trolled my feelings are kinda hurt I trusted you guys
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I'm glad they used Radahn
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I want to invade faggots using seamless coop, including people on the thread.
Common and easy password suggestions?
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Would Marika be upset if I pulled out?
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>>484234215
Is doing both really viable?
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>>484234050
one of the going theories is that its Melina since she wears that set with her cloak. and puts you to SLEEP at the forge. the part that doesn't track is she was burned to death. (but haligtree does have candletrees...)
if its millicents sisters there should be four of them, + one above if betrayed, + malenia after we beat her, + that trailer vs radahn
I already said im probably wrong about lake of rot dude get off it.
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>>484234447
>highland axe and a fitting shield
I wanna do that at some point but with the Smithscript Axe. Been trying to farm for the Messmer soldier shield but it just won't fucking drop.
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It's not possible to get that bouncing fireball spell some of the enemies use right? I just saw a guy in the arena using it, he was Chinese so I just assumed he was cheating
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>>484234591
Melina is cursed with fire not rot. She was messmers sibling so born before the twins
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>>484234625
I have like four of them.
Could drop you one.
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>>484234210
>Imagine being an honorable and kind defender of the realm
>Imagine being responsible for a nuke meant to assassinate you going off in the region you are meant to protect because you made a jest to your dumb baby brother once
>Imagine living in a constant state of pain and madness while trying to keep enough of your wits about you to keep defending the realm until someone mercy-kills
>Imagine being ressurected and mindcontrolled by your baby brother who now shoves sharpies in your pooper until someone else mercy-kills you, again.
>Imagine
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>>484234629
It's a consumable. Yes, he probably cheated it in though.
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>>484234629
It's not a spell, it's a consumable
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>>484233172
>>484233309
She did though. I admit I was mistaken by the Haligtree one. One at Caelid. One at the cutscene. Then the final bloom targeted against (You). After that, she practically blooms anytime she wants with careless abandon during the 2nd phase. That's gameplay evidence. But you know what? This is worthless, let's just agree to disagree.
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>>484234676
Looks more like husband and wife than mother and son tbqh.
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>>484234508
depends on what you mean by "viable"
if you don't mind unlocking your rune level from the PvP mindset then I do honestly believe so
at lvl150 to 200 you can get enough stats to pick up some neato spells and deal damage with them

the biggest issue I have with doing a multi caster like that, and even when investing in just one skill, is the fact that there's gonna be a spell that's really just a one stop shop for everything. cycling spells Is annoying so you'll find yourself just relying on one spell at the end of the day

and if you go for Rellana's swords then your not casting spells at that point

it's kinda what makes RP builds fun I suppose. Limitations make you use all tools
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>>484234676
So was Melina also possessed by the abyss serpent?
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I haven't bought the DLC yet, is it worth 37 bucks if I buy it now? Is there enough content? I don't give a shit about it "being hard" I've already beat the base game twice.
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>>484234780
He's just taller than her
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>>484234841
If you liked the base game then you buy because the content is worth it. It's just that the bosses are shit and sometimes the map is empty.
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>>484234663
hope your basing that on something and not just guessing, not going into dlc lore yet I haven't explored it and I DO NOT want spoilers thanks.
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>>484234841
you can pirate it
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I'm still thinking about how could they willingly ruin Miquella's character with "mind control on everyone".
It's so retarded in 2022 when I said his followers were mind controlled I was deemed a retard because the lack of obvious pink mist, which is simply an excuse for the lack of better reasoning since the idea itself was retarded.
Not even upset at Radahn, but it's undeniable the Miquella's charm forever ruined his character.
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>Hornsent stuff is FTH based even though they are technically Graceless Omens
Actually are the Crucible Knights Hornsents too?
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>>484234841
Yes imo
I've been exploring for awhile and haven't fought one of the main people yet and still have 3 more zones to find
There's issues though
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>>484234929
Messmer remembrance. If you don't want spoilers you may want to leave.
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>>484234130
Did you seriously forget that Malenia is also rotting on her own at the base of the Haligtree made worse because of her nuke against Radahn. She's also rotting away miserably.
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>>484234665
>Could drop you one
That'd be great, thanks. Set a red sign down by the First Step grace.
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>>484234439
la creatura
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>>484234780
That's because they were both
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High level pvp is such dogshit.
After RL 100 it just gets progressively more unfun and you die at most in 4 hits.

I've had most of the fun at low lvl around 40 till 60. Lots of shitters, stupid builds and your occasional min maxxer, but you will never be one-shotted. Fights last longer and it takes a lot more hits to die, a lot less stressful.
Am I the only one?
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>>484235051
Malenia has always been dealing with it and still has her faculties about her. If she wasn't getting better she wouldn't have stood up and fought us, would she?
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>>484228617
yes that is what i meant by "far away"
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>HARTO STOLEEEEN
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>>484235083
Password "YDBTG"
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So I finally got to Radahn, and WTF is this shit in phase 2?
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>>484235101
GRRM is a very low-level freak, mother-son incest is way too based for him.
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So in the end, who was the LEAST mentally ill among all the demigods?
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>>484235083
>>484234665
Oh, and the password is erg.
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>>484231325
I'm impressed that Melina is so high despite being such a nothing NPC compared to what you'd expect from her
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>>484234836
Yeah but it fused with me and is now my penis. It possesses me and drives me to want to insert it inside melina then take it out them put it back in then take it out then...
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>>484234997
the branch item that bewitches enemies has existed in the game since forever

Miquella was always a devious little shit

anyone that disagrees is stupid
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I LOVE STAT BOOSTING EQUIPMENT
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why the fuck would they make it clip through the armor set
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>>484234841
it's ok, it's like 2/3rds of the base game's length for 2/3rds of the price and i'd say it's mostly higher quality.

imo the main problem is how messed up the power progression is. difficulty in the DLC is basically "flat", meaning it doesn't get any harder no matter how far you wander from the start. but you become increasingly more powerful due to scadutree fragments. honestly the skiddledees serve no purpose aside from feeding into some idea that there *has* to be power progression, when evidently they didn't really design the DLC that way. by the time you find bosses like midra, you're probably going to be so strong due to collected skibidis that they pose no real threat, whereas bosses like rellana and messmer will beat your ass if you didn't decide to go around doing the skibidi minigame first. i would hope that they'd just rip out the system entirely but they're not gonna do that so rip
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>>484235007
fth is not associated only with grace / golden order.
Crucible-related things are fth as well.
I don't think hornsent are a different kind a being, I think it's a different culture. They get horns and they like it, unlike more modern men in LB.
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>>484235007
faith isn't just the golden order

it's faith in something
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>>484235216
I can easily headcanon on why the bewitching branch exists while also making him good. Miyazaki just went the easy way of making someone the villain so we never think about him ever again since he hates elden ring.
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>>484233684
>I accept your confession
There's no concession. Your point wasn't even pertinent. What does Radahn caring for his shitty horse matter for achievements in battle?
>So no rebuttal then against that then.
No need for a rebuttal. The others have accolades to prove their worth, until they lose miserable time and again. Radahn is among them, where you're pretending he has some high ground. Fucker is a massive failure who failed to take Leyndell. Failed to defeat Malenia and lost the war. Failed to defeat Tarnished in his own festival. Then failed to defeat Tarnished when backed by a fucking god.
>She did lose against Radahn.
Radahnfag delusion. Anyone and everyone says Radahn did not win. Not even entertaining this.
>Proven false by the DLC, he just charms everyone now.
Miquella did not always have his great rune, you fucking idiot. Can Radahnfags play the game already?
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>invade
>spawn in next to divine warrior in enir-ilim

Sometimes the game just wants you to win
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>>484235313
The game was basically made on a shoestring budget by a team of two people, I think you should give them a break
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>>484235216
Yes, but if you look at the archive, any and all discussiong of the bewitching branch being used by Miquella to control people was seen with ridicule simply because of "pink mist".
A shame I lost my screencaps so I can't grudgepost.
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>>484235050
>may want to leave
i'm about 4 weeks late to that party, they spoiled the whole fucking dlc before it released anyway with the alpha radahn fight
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Scat fragments should have fewer upgrade stages and be more plentiful. Players shouldn't be forced to explore. Change my mind.
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>>484235192
Godwinning
>but he fucked dragons
Who wouldn't if they had the chance?
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THERE GOES MY HERO
Thanks man.
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>>484235192
Godwyn
Maybe Ranni (not talking about moral, just that she was the more sane/logical one).
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ok anons, which AoW for this weapon? also, I should use flame art for faith-based affinity right?
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>>484235390
actually nvm i think it's like half of the base game's length or even less, so i think it's a little overpriced but wcyd
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>>484235473
strafechads are incredible
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>>484235192
Rykard.
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>>484235473
I've never tried jumping yhat spinning attack, why does it work? Wouldn't you like still be like in the hit box? I thought jumping didn't have iframe
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>>484234673
>you made a jest to your dumb baby brother once
is this ironicposting or are there people stupid enough to believe that a divine ascension is something men of the golden order can treat as a joke?
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>>484231279
gaol knight is hot
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>>484235473
someone on the dev team played Skul and thought what if we do that in 3d
we've come a long way from O and S
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>>484235473
when the fuck is it your turn to attack
>>484235484
25 million copies sold + 5 million from the dlc (so far) i'll skin miyazaki alive
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>>484235618
Your legs have i-frames in jumps
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>>484235554
No bothers, they just kept throwing those shields at me.
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>>484235570
Flame Skewer or Flame Spear are generally considered the best, and yeah flame art for faith.
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>>484235428
My headcanon is that faith is simply you being schizo enough you make things happen and manifest in reality out of sheer willpower.
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>>484233912
lol
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>>484235473
>mouse
you didn't beat the game

youre supposed to claw grip and thumbstick to turn slow
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>>484235543
I agree with having excess amounts scattered around. Its such a chore finding things like that. I still haven't maxed out my flasks either.
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>>484235645
The ascension itself doesn't have anything to do with the golden order though.
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got the soc's wombo combo in-game
the effects look a little weird since i'm using an effect intended for the thrusts in the stabby part of messmer's spear aow, but it's what i'm using until i find a more-suitable effect
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>>484231547
yosh
jolan and anna
hornsent warrior
bigmouth imp
taylew
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>>484234997
Even if the charm didn't exist Miquella would still be terrible because of his childlike demeanor. He's a child that abandons his toys when they're no longer interesting or fun like the Haligtree and the Eclipse and he never thinks of the consequences of his failure.
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So Hornsent NPC dude was the divine beast grandma’s son?
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>>484235686
After their combo you can get a jump attack in.
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buff it
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>>484234495
Happy for Miquella and his himbo husband
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Mhmm. Oh yeah. It's Radahn time baby.
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>>484231547
I still use the 2 skeleton ashes and bandit skeleton because I like skeletons
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>>484235949
This shit oneshots in invasions.
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Why is discussing lore with you guys specifically more fun than elsewhere? You go to twitter they're just regurgitating loretuber headcanons as fact
You go to reddit and they're just throwing shit at the wall not even caring if it sticks(or regurgitating loretuber opinions)
You go on /v/ and it's just schizoposting

Why are you all so different? I actually have fun talking about lore here
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>>484235913
No, his mother died in the purge along with his wife, child and his dog/concubine.
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>>484235949
they need to balance a lot of shit and they're 100% going to forget these
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So has anyone figured out if the "further holy imbuement" line in the Black Steel Greathammer's description means to infuse it as sacred or to use a weapon buff like Order's/Sacred Blade?
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>>484236013
Because we don’t have to act like “good” person and call it as it is I guess.
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Almost every single summon I see other than myself at radahn is using the exact same "build".
Often times host using it too.
This is just fucking pathetic, it's carian reteliation/bleed+frostanas at malenia all over again
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Thinking about it, Leda didn't oppose the tarnished out of loyalty to Miquella, but out of fear.
Because I'd surely find a way to get Miquella's charm powers and use it on her to make her a cocksleeve.
Shame ER isn't a R18 game. Leda is the perfect female knight material for corruption and degradation scenarios.
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>>484236096
Either
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>>484236013
>Why are you all so different? I actually have fun talking about lore here
If someone likes a game enough to use a general for it, it probably means they arent a soulless grifter like most people are nowadays and actually enjoy the product

That is ofcourse until the tourists turn up, but hey
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So we do know that consort doesn't have to be sexual right? Why does everyone assume- never mind,
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Enough...
I have endured... more than enough...
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>>484236013
you kinda answered your own question, they are discussing what vaati said, where as vaati comes here to steal our ideas in the first place.

unrelated, I can't vote on the waifus yet cause it includes dlc. nonetheless assume there is at least one more for Rya than the ratings show until I have voted.
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>>484234480
people have shit reading comprehension
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>>484236096
I think it's just an embellishment over the fact it has innate holy damage. Having said that, I'm able to do about 4k damage in a single running heavy to messmer soldiers with a str/order's blade setup.
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>>484235940
thats uhhh 10 seconds for a hit
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>>484236035
Eh so who was her son? She talked about her son going to kill Messmer if you wear the lion head and talked to her.
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>>484236165
Nigger she's just looking for excuses to murder people because she's the best girl she already wiped out her own knightly order and Mickey had to charm her before she wiped out all his minions again.
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>>484236165
Leda opposed the Tarnished because she's a paranoid schizo who, with enough time, would murder everyone.
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Cars you bail.
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>heal from afar
What the fuck were they thinking? At cast speed cap it's only barely slower (less than .0X) than a flask in time until recovery heals more (with heavy faith investment) at a fraction of a cost and costs all of 18 Faith to put on.

Flask heals at the start so you can trade with it into damage but there's no reality where I don't just cast this spell from now on.
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Speaking of Leda when I helped her with Hornsent and Ansbach I didn't have to help her at all. She wiped the fucking floor with both of them and barely got hit.
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>>484235960
Sister? Your "Golden Braid"?
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>>484235140
>still has her faculties
>missing pride, dignity, sense of self
no
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>>484236183
Miquella is finally legal. After being a child for centuries he's definitely going to be making up for lost time.
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>>484236291
Some dead hornigger.
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>>484236013
because discussing lore somewhere else the odds of people unironically saying to wait for vaatividya is high, in the mean time you can also hear people saying that miquella is hitler
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RADAHN IS TOO HARD
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>>484235473
>last spin literally hitting the player twice, shoving him to the side
>0 damage
????????
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>>484236183
https://litter.catbox.moe/cj6vbz.mp4 (ignore file name I assume it was deleted for copywrite? its a two second clip, parody laws bros fucken hell.)
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what if millicent is to malenia what st trina and radagon were to miquella and marika?
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>>484236405
>missing her sense of self
>clearly knows she is malenia, blade of miquella
she could pass trial competency, radahn never would.
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>>484235618
jumping turns off the hitbox for the bottom of your body
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>hippo camera
jesus christ
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say something nice about the best girl of the dlc
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>>484236395
She just likes being watched like the naughty murderslut she is.
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Im using the dlc longhaft axe and hate that you don't get iframes for your jumpattack
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>>484236405
that is metaphorical, you...nigga were you somehow sleeping when she mentioned her name over and over again? she clearly has a sense of self and pride, otherwise she wouldn't have bitched out after losing, then apologize to miquella after losing again.
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>>484236613
She's very rapable. Comes with built-in roofies.
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>>484236652
all jumps have i-frames on your feet.
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>>484236360
>What the fuck were they thinking?
They put zero thought into anything dlc related
>>484236298
>Miquella, please turn into a God
>t. person who loves murder
>t. person who loves war
>t. non verbal autistic who can only "communicate" with fists
uhhh
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>>484235473
that piece of shit is so unfun to fight
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>>484234676
messmer's mommy issues are sexy.
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>>484236613
the only bad thing about her is we can't see her feet
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>>484236613
I would make weird flower girl babies with her
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>>484236613
That's an abomination only a drugged cuck out of his thick as two planks mind would ever love.
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>>484236360
Best thing is with enough skibidi blessings you can effectively offset the defense penalty from the new cast speed talisman due to diminishing returns.
So on faith builds you can 100% run only blue flasks.
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>>484236613
delicious, slimy, warm nectar
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>>484236613
why would miquella's other self want him dead? kinda fucked up.
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>>484235142
This works at a closer range as well, just as long as the fireballs are in homing mode.
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Siluria, Ordovis or Devonia? Which one is the best?
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>>484236762
counterpoint: 7 vaganias
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Rellana
>no cutscene
>unique boss
>random lore
>dumb character
>biggest spell
>student of magic

Ymir
>cutscene
>npc type boss
>best quest/lore
>coolest character
>smallest spells
>teacher of magic

The contrast is fucking infuriating. It’s as though they gave up on two sides of the same coin, but a different side for each.

Why blow their load on a boss without an ounce of lore lead up?

Why blow their load on lore only to end it with a lousy encounter?

They should have scrapped the Rellana character or left her unseen.

They should have focused their efforts on Ymir and not Rellana. Or some other, non joke (“lol red head lover gurl xd”) boss.
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>>484236013
because some of us actually read and experienced the content instead of watching vaati or wiki pages
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>>484236290
Modern Souls boss, you rike?
>>484236521
That's his collision box pushing me around. Jumping disables the hurtboxes for the lower part of your body.
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>>484236360
>>heal from afar
>What the fuck were they thinking?
that im fed up of chasing hosts to heal them on my WHITE MAGE character
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>something something destined death
>you go around through 90% of the game not having the rune of destined death but still killing demigods anyway
I don't get it
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>>484235464
>Your point wasn't even pertinent.
I wasn't talking about the horse but rather his Gravtional magic you hyperfocused on the horse too much.
>where you're pretending he has some high ground.
He is though, he is respected and remembered by his subordinates. A much better high ground than most demigods.
>Failed to defeat Malenia and lost the war
I didn't know retreating back to the Haligtree with your Cleanrot knight is a victory lmao.
>Failed to defeat Tarnished in his own festival.
Yeah and you don't play the game toon backed by a fucking god., the festival is for his honorable death not sending Tarnished to be killed.
>Then failed to defeat Tarnished whe
Honestly a better fate than being Miquella's mindless servant. Can you blame him there? Also using the Tarnished is a moot point since all of us would be mad if the DLC ending is just Radahn beating us.
>Miquella did not always have his great rune
There's literally a bewitching bramch that tells you of this and his rune was discarded in the Lands of the Shadow so he still had it back in the Lands Between. He used it on Mohg and his cult ffs.
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Who is Charo?
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>>484236561
>>484236693
all she remembers is her brother, she is fucking delusional
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My little murderhobo can't be this cute
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>>484236961
They get reincarnated eventually but they won't have their great rune, you took it.
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>>484236850
honestly miquella is an awful person
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idk why the miquella stuff was so shocking or disappointing to so many. I like the idea that his order was wildly flawed too. The theme of the gods being fucked up shouldn't just stop with Miquella. The idea that he's the most well intentioned but fails as a result of that fits thematically: he's a childlike figure who in spite of his genuine compassion and many talents, lacks the necessary ability to fully realize his potential or understand his own flaws. It makes complete sense and makes him feel more tragic than the other bosses we kill whilst also fitting into the theme that the only one who can really make a meaningful change for the world is the Tarnished.
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What are the prerequisites for invading areas? Do I need to go there physically or do I need to touch a grace in that zone or summoning statue? For example I'm not getting any invasions in any cave I haven't been in. I'm mostly asking because I was thinking if I could nail down directly what causes me to allow me to invade those certain places I'd be able to specifically avoid places I don't want to invade.
I'm sick of getting Liurnia lake duelists and I'm seriously considering leveling a new character and somehow avoiding all the places I don't want to invade.
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>>484236613
>she'll drug you up and do whatever she wants while you sleep
super hot yes please
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>>484237018
i dont know
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>>484236850
Miquella is already “dead” in her eyes, as Marika was “dead” the moment she did a big thing. Godhood is shackling.

However, I do wonder what a god who’d not give a fuck, would do? I feel as if our Marika wasn’t satisfied with her rule.
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>>484237062
all radahn remembers is the taste of captain crunch
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>>484236961
The way the Golden Order works is if you have the blessing of grace you get recycled by the Erdtree and don't die when you're killed
Anyone divested of grace dies when they're killed unless grace is eventually restored to them, like (You) and most of the friendly NPCs you talk to
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>>484236613
Do you think her and Miquella ever... You know....
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>>484223631
Almost every single host and phantom at radahn are this image.
Absolute state.
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>>484236858
nah, half of them will go around it depending around the angle, absolutely useless spell against furnace golems when you can just deaths poker the legs
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>>484236613
sluttiest pose


who sleeps like this???
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>>484237142
not an argument
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>>484237142
Do you think that's why miquella wanted him to be his lord? Radahn shared captain crunch with him as a kid?
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>>484236360
>What the fuck were they thinking?
>"Let's bring back projected heal because that shit was fucking sick bro"
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Try 850. Still cant deal with Radahn's cross slash and the stupid light pillars.
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>>484237079
Miquella was shocking to me simply because he had what I call a "woman moment" while being a man
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>>484237078
Isn’t he supposed to be childishly naive the same way Marika was? A kind of soft parallel, between parent and child. This is why Trina is saddened about Miquella.
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>>484236613
Her voice spooked me at first but I grew to love it.
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Actually insane how much more fun this game is when you use a cheese build to kill the unfun bosses. I should have switched to a greatshield sooner.
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>>484237079
miquella was fine, the radahn resurrection was fucking shit
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>>484237258
Projected heal was pretty hard to land. This shit just needs to land in the same area code
Sick toss. I was always shit at healing others with it
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>>484234673
>you made a jest to your dumb baby brother once
It was just a prank bro! The camera's right there!
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>>484237158
Then where does the rune of death/destined death come in if people can already die
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>>484236926
>Blade of Messmer
>not even in his castle
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>>484236961
godrick isn't dead his torso is just getting stomped on by gostoc
renalla isn't dead and phase 2 was ranni
radahn got ate by alexander but the whole festival was a mercy killing anyway AND he got revived by Miquella or some shit
malenia becomes a flower not dead
Rykard is immortal and tanith states this in plain english while delicious in dungeoning (or dungeon meshi you fucking gaijin fake weeb) him.
Morgott legitimately dies in godfreys arms somehow (destined death has been released)
Mohg just deadpools himself into another pool of blood, results inconclusive
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>>484237267
The secret to dealing with his cross slash (unless you specifically take things that allow you to avoid it) is just to accept that you will take some chip on it and stop worrying about it.
For the pillars just always roll left in phase 2
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>>484237084
You can only invade where a host has summoned co-op niggies to help them. You can only invade within +25 levels. You can only invade within the same weapon upgrade level.

You will continually invade fight clubs and PVP shitholes just because people summon there on purpose.
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>shields are cheese
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>>484237198
Jesus she is just begging to be pollinated…

>>484237336
I’m much more at peace lately, coming to the conclusion that this game is just one big giant meme, and From does not even care about its stories, just the ideas they use for them.
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>>484236926
mpreg shit was weird ngl
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>>484237252
it was actually a joke about him eating the captains of his army but yeah also that tracks with miquella being a child
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assuming i only killed rellana, is there a way to get to the top left of the map?
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>>484237012
>I wasn't talking about the horse but rather his Gravtional magic you hyperfocused on the horse too much.
So you're giving Radahn a W for mastering his craft. As if everyone would not be successful for mastering their own?
>He is though, he is respected and remembered by his subordinates.
Everyone is respected and remembered by their subordinates, for those who matter. Even fucking Mohg. At best, you're trying to hype Radahn's "character", but this is not relevant to the fact that he fails in his objectives.
>I didn't know retreating back to the Haligtree with your Cleanrot knight is a victory lmao.
I didn't know that losing a war and turning into a rotten husk eating his own men is a victory either. Please just play the game.
>the festival
has nothing to do with Radahn's own goals. Which is just killing as much as he can because he can't think of anything else. He lost the fight. The festival's purpose is for his men's cope, and they don't even share that equally, as Freya believes Radahn belongs on the battlefield. Are red herrings all you know how to do?
>Honestly a better fate than being Miquella's mindless servant
Still lost.
Like everyone who loses to the tarnished. I do not give a right fuck about Radahn's character, dude. This is about their failures, of which there are many.
>There's literally a bewitching branch
there are several characters in this DLC alone who break out of Miquella's charm, and still choose to follow him and revere him.
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>>484237436
If you are using duel shields yes
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>>484237519
2 handing one shield is better anyway
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>>484237457
It’s not impregnation, it’s a form of fungus cancer. Fingercreepers are finger buds.
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>Son of Marika.
>Aspiring Lord of the old order.
>Fool who abandoned his fears and love. Your story ends here.
>By my hand, the Tarnished, and my promised consort, Ranni.
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>>484237258
why does this look better than elder ring
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the fuck are they doing
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>>484237079
Miquella's concept works just fine. The problem is that the only part of this we see, is him wanting Radahn to be his consort, which was by far the worst, least interesting aspect of his story. But that's the memory these idiot developers chose to emphasize.
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>>484237421
Yea, but I haven't been to the mountaintops on a different character, despite definitely being within the invasion range of the mountaintops, and I have never invaded there in 30 hours. So what I'm after is whether getting the grace is what causes that area to open up as an invasion spot or if just setting foot in that zone is what causes it.
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>>484237480
iirc the only areas you are blocked off from :

Flying Sky Castle shit (need to burn the tree seal)
Tree Seal area (need to kill Romina)
Romina's area (need to kill Messmer)

Everything else you can run to
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>>484237601
I think they mean how HE is the MOTHER of fingers
god damn i've been spoiled on so much, I haven't even seen that boss yet and I know the item descriptions better than most of you.
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I felt like the DLC didn't deserve my money, and so, I cheesed everything with the Lightning Bottle with tranquility of heart and peace of mind.
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>>484237547
sorry i thought you mad a typo lmoa
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>>484237382
Because if you put the Rune of Death back in the Elden Ring then everyone dies when they're killed
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>>484237656
Fucking.
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>>484237647
Elden Ring utilizes overly colorful tumblr style fantasy aesthetics to cloak its highly disturbing lore and lore implications.
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>>484236961
afaik Godrick had scrapped lines for facing the Tarnished again. It seemed like you can fight bosses again but it was trashed probably for gameplay reasons.
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>>484237079
him failing is fine, it's just the whole malenia radahn mohg that is dogshit
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>>484237764
shit the fuck up everyone was bitching about how grey dark souls 3 overwhelmingly is when it came out
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>>484237714
Upper Rauh is not locked behind Messmer, I killed Romina before Messmer
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>>484237720
You sound like you don't need much to achieve peace of mind lmao
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>>484237847
i'm still bitching about it
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>>484237680
afaik being physically in the area you want to invade generally lets you invade there, and if there's no one nearby it moves you to the next closest zone

I have been invading the imp dungeons in the DLC and it always sends me into them
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>>484237719
Finger Mimic
— “Light-pink mushroom resembling a wizened finger. Material used for crafting items. Exceedingly rare to find. Used by those who wish to become fingers to induce hallucinations. They call these mushrooms the stillborn of the Two Fingers.“
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>>484237382
I don't think the other anons are right. Demigods originally just couldn't die. Godwyn was the first one to and then multiple more. We're told people get reincarnated through the Erdtree but Demigods seem to operate under different rules. They certainly weren't dying and reincarnating.
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>>484237421
Its a joy watching those fuckers die because the red always fools me into thinking I got a good invasion. Get in the arena
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Cmon Peko, it's nearly midnight kill him already. I got work tomorrow.
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>>484237805
Nobody, literally nobody, can provide a salient explanation for how Mohg fits into any of this

Malenia's character is stagnant at best or made worse. People used to believe she fought for war's sake or to rescue her brother, but instead she was just a glorified loan shark.

Radahn's character also becomes muddier when he was once fairly straightforward, since his perspective on things isn't even touched on.

This was such a bad subplot
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>>484237847
thats just because they were using assets from their last software and that happened to be bloodborne (which for some reason had next to no recycled assets so now every fromsoft game is going to be vaguely bloodbornian, forever)
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>>484237959
>Demigods originally just couldn't die
They were all blessed by grace, and Ranni needed to work with her brother to steal part of the Rune of Death literally to get around that, so yeah
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>full moon spells get fucking carian sigil
>primeval sorceries and ice sorceries get nothing
>thorn sorceries also get nothing

Why were the artists so lazy with the sorceries
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Can I use CE to change my character's class and base stats and still be able to play online?
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>>484236613
nectar time
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>>484237505
>here are several characters in this DLC alone who break out of Miquella's charm
because he broke his great rune and the charm holding them, not because of their ability to break free independently.
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>>484237947
stop fucking verbatim posting dlc descriptions after I said "god damn ive been spoiled on so much already"- you know what fuck it ill just leave then like whoever said I should cause you wont do so. fuck you.
he said mpreg male impregnation, relating to the altered coat.
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>>484216214
>aeonian butterflies don't respawn
wow what the fuck why miyazaki
arcane doesnt even add scarlet rot buildup and i wasted over 100 rot arrows helping nigger hosts who keep dying with mohg
pic unrelated
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>>484237656
Partying hard
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>>484237640
kino, they could have pulled a dark souls 1 and have Melina (or someone) be the final final boss, where your health bar is the boss healthbar. like they planned to have Oscar arrive after you defeat Gwyn before they cut it
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>>484237640
>godslayer greatsword
>darkmoon greatsword
what kind of stupid fucking build is this dumb shit? there's 0 thought put into this god forsaken picture
fucking stupid
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>>484237640
Retard, Tarnished's the consort, Ranni should be speaking. It should be:

>Son of Marika, Aspiring Lord of the Old Order. Thou art a fool for eschewing fear and love. Thine journey will end here. By mine Consort's, mine Elden Lord's hand.
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>>484238128
Not my point. The fact that the charm is broken and that they STILL revere him means that the charm itself was not the decider.
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>>484238020
>start watching
>can't see shit on phase 2 because of all the light beams
Fucking kek what a joke of a boss
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This hole is so fucking stupid. And I can think of 3 more locations where they decide to put a random hole just so you can fall in. What a piece of shit.
>>484238092
No.
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>>484238021
You keep saying this but it'll never be true, you literally have to ignore the base game for Malenia especially to bitch about this and not only does Mohg's role in the DLC get told explicitly but his role in wrecking the Haligtree plan which before could only have been assumed was Miquella's charm backfiring on him is now basically confirmed
Literally the only people taken aback by this DLC are the same mentally ill nutjobs that wanted to crucify anyone that said Miquella wasn't a good boi
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Any1 here killed Radahn with a colossal sword? how was it
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>tfw no procedurally generated Chalice Dungeon system full of imp statues, ceiling spikes, platforms and randomly mix-and-matched weapons with AoWs that you can't normally acquire as rewards

Vros...
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>>484238420
>You keep saying this
Meds. Not even reading the rest.
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>>484238420
>but his role in wrecking the Haligtree plan which before could only have been assumed was Miquella's charm backfiring on him is now basically confirmed
literally fucking nothing is confirmed about how all this played out and it's a huge messy bag of speculation though
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>>484238431
oh nooo no procgen slop to go along with my copypasted prefab dungeons with a shitty spirit ash ill never use at the end
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Destined Death means you actually die if you die. Even if killed, you’re not killed.

Had you killed the demigods, they would just be brought back. That’s why they are unkillable. Maliketh meanwhile could truly kill the demigods, as holder of Death.

You also don’t die from old age. You just continue getting older, and older, until you become indistinguishable from the dead.

This is why it was preferable to join the Golden Order, as you would become a form of wretch otherwise.

People on the fringes are suffering life a lot differently from those near the roots of the Erd. Look at the underground.

Those Who Live In Death are simply folk who got corrupted by Deathwyn cancer.
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>>484238431
>No unique bosses and enemies not found in the base game
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>>484238430
Blood infused Bloodfiend Arm. Ez pz
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Man, smithscripts have such cool mixups. The Axe and Dagger pair really well together.
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>>484237079
I just feel like the Radahn thing is abit of a meme. So many other avenues they could have went

This is the final boss of the game essentially - it could and should have been way cooler than just fighting fucking Radahn again.

I wouldve like a biblicly accurate miquella moment. I know thats a zoomer buzzword, but seriously imagine how fucking cool and creepy / creative they couldve gone for miquella as a final boss - a REAL godlike entity.

Instead we just get him sitting on radahns shoulders. Lame and gay
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>>484238703
Axe and Shield is fucking witchcraft
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>>484238021
The problem is there are basically three versions of Elden Ring's story with Miquella and what impact those had on game development but they all overlap and fuck each other up in unforseen ways.
You have the old, scrapped content with Rhico, St. Trina and the Merchants and Miquella's spirit being in the Haligtree and your interactions with both Miquella and Malenia, despite being scrapped decisions were made about this content carried over to the base game, i.e. Malenia sitting blind, sad and alone at the bottom of a hollow dying tree.
You have the base game where they quickly removed bits and painted over other bits so they could make room for the DLC without being totally decided on what that was.
Then you have the DLC storyline.
And none of this fits together in a particularly clean way.
They don't plan out what will be DLC and what will be base game well enough.
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>>484238521
There's nothing messy about it, Mohg being charmed is now 100%, Miquella trying to kill Radahn is 100%, Radahn taking actions that went against what Miquella wanted is 100%, Haligtree failing is 100%, Malenia waiting for Miquella to wake up in the Haligtree thus having no idea what went wrong is 100%
You literally just put these things together, or you cope for days because you didn't want Miquella to be the bad guy. There's no in-between.
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>>484238430
>Bleed Greatsword
>Gravity Drill Ash
>Stack every single defensive incant
>press endure on soft swap dagger
>Gravity Spin
>repeat until dead
Didn't even dodge. Just tanked everything.
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>>484235949
they need to make it consistent because half of the time it will whiff due the roar being only an audio visual effect but all the damage come from the eruption and the enemy can stand in a safe spot
The other Bayle spell does Physical+Fire+Lighting damage all in one, why the fuck that does only Fire from the eruption
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>>484238281
>what kind of stupid fucking build is this dumb shit?
99 points on everything.
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>>484238801
>despite being scrapped decisions were made about this content carried over to the base game
This is a perfect example of said massive cope, having the expectation that cut content in any way would or should reflect on the final story of the game is something that started with Bloodborne getting datamined and is still some of the dumbest shit I've ever heard in my life
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>>484238852
I don't care if Miquella is a bad or good guy because I'm not a weirdo attached to minimalistic characters. But no, there's a lot of questions about the actual intricacies of interactions we don't know.
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>>484238569
love me death
love me natural cycles
love me goofy critters

'ate the troon god
'ate the incestual genocidal retards
'ate the albinaurics

simple as
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>>484238569
>This is why it was preferable to join the Golden Order, as you would become a form of wretch otherwise.

Meanwhile glintstone sorcerers are doing rocky stabby shit to stay young.

Star rocks > Tree goo
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Holy shit I forgot that you can alter armour.
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Is Sword of Night actually good? The WA is sick and makes me want to build into a full edgelord, it reminds me of Odin's abilities in FFXVI.
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>>484239174
>the actual intricacies of interactions
You've basically admitted that the actual plot is sound, but fucking really? Who the fuck is playing a souls game for fucking character interactions? How hopped up are you on movies and anime?
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Are the paintings of Karalos and Olivinus actually the former faces of masters Azur and Lusat? Or are they merely the faces of mages covering up transgression?
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>>484238281
Did you not see Ranni on his back, shes cleary aiding his intelligence to use her sword
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>>484239402
uhhh
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>>484238281
level 713
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>>484239467
Probably them. Azur’s mouth lines look a lot like the painting.
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>>484238852
Radahn took no action against the plan. The plan was always for him to die and come back.
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>>484239402
>Who the fuck is playing a souls game for fucking character interactions?
nigga an entire job market spawned from precisely that
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>>484238758
what makes it so good? what's the build? Just strength?
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>>484239526
So absolutely addicted to them then if you're trying to tell me that character interactions are anything other than the least important part of any story

>>484239690
[citation needed]
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>>484238281
Poor bro got btfod hard.
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why they put tyler1 in the game
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Anyone got lewd images of Sellen?
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>>484227749
No issues for me, but I know this DLC has some bad framerate drops. Any time the Divine Beast Dancing Lion did the lightning hell combo, my FPS went from mid-50s to 20 or less. Turning the game audio off completely fixed it for some reason, and it was only that one attack.
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>>484237198
it's a legit flower larp pose, the flower part should be at the top after all
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I'm sorry this is just nuts to me. You have zoomers playing games in this series trying to look at the narrative in terms of fucking character interactions like it's some slice of life TV show. Fucking insane
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>>484239818
A lot of characters serve no purpose other than acting as lore dump (rogier, melina, miriel), so they are in fact important
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>>484240026
Rogier at least is one of the first summons to help shitters beat Margit
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Playing this DLC is exhausting and not fun.
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>>484239878
Don't tell anyone
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>put frost on bloodfiend arm
>trigger frost in single R1
>put poison on bloodfiend arm
>trigger poison in single R1
>put bleed on bloodfiend arm
>trigger bleed in single R1

what did they mean by this
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>>484240141
>He isn't using a greatshield and the mimic tear
Couldn't be me
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>>484240141
use spirit ashes if you struggle friend
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>>484240141
I had a lot of fun on the first run, but I can't see myself playing it over and over, mainly because of the scat mechanic...
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>>484240141
the zones are ugly, the weapons are meh, bad boss fights, terrible legacy dungeons compared to the base game. Yeah, it's bad.
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>>484240202
it's called a bug
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>>484240196
is that.... are those...
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>>484240391
nah
you want an ugly game with bad bosses look at DS3
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>>484240290
Scat's dont carry over?
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I don't know how you guys can magdump 100+ hours in main game + dlc and then decide to do another run. My first character will be my only character thanks to savescumming
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>>484239113
It's not cope, just consider this for a second.
We know that Miquella was originally in a version of Elden Ring.
We know that he was in the Haligtree, you can see it visually and his dialogue is grouped with Malenia's.
We know that both Miquella and Malenia had more interactions with the Tarnished in that version.
We can work out why Malenia is at the bottom of the Haligtree in that version of the game, she's there to keep the tree safe while Miquella's inside it.
But we never got that, we got a story where Miquella isn't in the Haligtree and doesn't seem to care about it.
That's fine, I don't really care what Miquella's characterization is or what he does either way.
But when they made the game this way, and cut out all that old content they basically didn't cut it cleanly enough.
As a result, Malenia is sitting alone at the bottom of the Haligtree for basically no reason, her being there effectively has the same narrative importance as a boss fight at the end of any of the catacombs.
If they want to make DLC from content they're planning on cutting, it should be cut in a way that doesn't leave what remains in a totally hollow state, leaving vain hope that the DLC really cleans it up after the fact.
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>>484240141
after 1200 hours i've concluded that elden ring is the game you play only once and never again but oh well i am still here
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>>484240467
Well, I'm thinking more about on other characters. I don't know if they carry over but they probably do?
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>>484240526
>for basically no reason
recuperating isn't a reason?
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>>484240518
its called being unemployed
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>>484240427
DS3 bosses shit all over Elden Ring's. Get your T-levels checked, I'm deadly serious.
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>>484240526
>We know that he was in the Haligtree, you can see it visually
Fucking dumb ass looking woman tree with no purpose why the fuck our character looks at it on the cutscene
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>>484240518
it's fun
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>>484240526
They probably had plans for a Miquella ending but cut it because it's way too happy of an ending.
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>>484240923
from's obsession with depressing endings needs to stop
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>so many fun and good STR and STR/FAI weapons I keep switching every hour or two

God it's nuts, every other spec gets maybe 2-3 useful stuff in comparison
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>>484240526
>Malenia is sitting alone at the bottom of the Haligtree for basically no reason
Wrong
She's sitting there because she's waiting for her brother to wake up, and she still thinks he's in the Haligtree, culminating in how the second you beat her up and walk past her towards what is actually Miquella's empty husk, she tries to protect it from you so much so that she ultimately blooms for nothing.
The meaning is completely different and it's got nothing to do with the cut storyline anymore, and more importantly with the new DLC story in place, we now know even more about it, because for all of the above to be what happens in the base game, this means that Miquella totally abandoned his sister after she didn't kill Radahn and Malenia can't deal with her failure.
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>>484240990
Ranni's ending is a happy one. The problem with Miquella's is that the world's problems get fixed while it's ambigous in Ranni's
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>>484241105
ranni is a start
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>>484241105
Ranni's ending is inconclusive. You need to make a headcanon to think it's positive or negative since it doesn't say shit.
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What the hell is the abyssal woods? I expected some answers when I got to the manse but from what I can tell Midra is just another guy seduced by the Frenzied Flame to take on all pain himself to save his waifu.
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>>484241105
Sekiros ending where you sacrifice yourself as well, bittersweet but ultimately optimistic
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>>484241071
>this means that Miquella totally abandoned his sister
[citation needed]
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>>484241247
kino horror segment
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What's the best way to build Milady? Just Keen/Heavy with some good AoW? What's good about it VS just using a good Greatsword with something like Wild Strikes or Giant Hunt?
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As always /vg/trannies lied to me, seamless co-op is amazing, you can even invade players world now, lost like 5 years invading 50-60 players and I M HAVING A BLAST!
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>>484241247
I hate to tell you this, anon, but you find Nanaya's corpse in the manse, cradling the spinal column of a different lord of frenzy.
Midra was duped by his own Hyetta
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>>484241261
Use your pea brain and think. If Malenia is helplessly waiting somewhere for something that will never happen, that openly contradicts the idea that Miquella involved her in his Shadow Realm plot, doesn't it? It's almost like Mohg coming to take him out of the Haligtree and her not being able to kill Radahn were both things that didn't go to plan.
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>>484241364
you can put any affinity on it so just do whatever you want, i had it set to blood on a dex arcane build and it was great

that said if you don't put wing stance on it you are retarded, it's the only weapon that can use it so it was designed for it
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>>484228870
>Or if you subscribe to the other theory, ER was already there as early as Placidusax having all his heads.
Given that the Elden Ring was sent by the Greater Will as the EB and Placidusax was Elden Lord, which requires there to be an Elden Ring, yes this is literally true. Nothing says Radagon and Marika made it.
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>>484241464
Malenia is waiting for Miquella to return, which he can very much still do. We don't even know if she was even conscious for the shadow realm plan. You guys really need to separate your inferences from the information we have
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>>484241728
Malenia thinking Miquella is still in the tree is not much of an inference, the entire fight sequence makes no sense if she doesn't actually think he's there.
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>>484239818
Your 100% facts are lacking citations too. Fanfiction doesn't count. Sorry Radahn is gay.
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>>484239848
No, he's right and it looks stupid
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>>484238281
>two quality swords with minor other stat investment
what's the problem
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>>484238069
Ice was the magic from a witch rather than an actual school. Primeval are founding sorceries and thorns hardly even qualify as a sorcery, more like a incantation discovered by blind criminals that uses your blood to create glintstone thorns. Why shouldn't the moon spells have the carian sigils?
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>>484237640
Isn't that just Vargram? Also, it didn't look cool when Miquella did it, even less when Ranni does. How does a "dark" moon shine anyway, that greatsword is stupid.
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How good is storming around in NG+ PVE with the Divine Beast head talismasn and divine warriior curved swoird?
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>>484223730
That new Light Sword buffs all your holy damage by 20% for a minute even if you swappa



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