ye olde: >>484590585>Latest patchhttps://en.bandainamcoent.eu/elden-ring/news/elden-ring-calibration-update-1122>Main information documenthttps://rentry.org/erpasta>Character plannershttps://eip.gg/elden-ring/build-planner/https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/19Op36P7gdVMkPzFQX6OsjZcfyUjdGOj7Cjk9qFAVj-U/edit>Interactive maphttps://mapgenie.io/elden-ring/maps/the-lands-between>Group passworderg
>>484616910>>Latest patchNOT the latest patch
>YOU ARE WITHIN MY SIGHTS, FASCIST LITERALLY-HITLER TRUMP SUPPORTING UNVACCINATED PSYCHOPATH INVADER!!>PREPARE TO MEET THE SHEER, RAZOR SHARP INTELLECT OF I, TRANS_BIPOC_BERNIEBRO_S*YDRINKER_GOONLOVER69420!! I HAVE FELLED COUNTLESS REDCELS LIKE YOU WITH MY L1 MASHING SKILLS, YOU STAND NO CHA-ACK
>>484616939what weapons were you using?
POST YOUR PATCH HOPES AND FEARS
If Miyazaki won't give me my Beasthunter Saif back then I'll just have to make due
>swift slash damage reduced by 5%our support for the game has now ended, thank you all for playing and enjoying elden ring! :) see you next game!
>>484616951how'd you do so much damage while he was blocking? do those claws have elemental damage?
>>484617027>hopesShitty weapons and incants made useful>fearsDeflection, and my favorite weapons getting nerfed into uselessness
>20 scadu>10 revered spirit ash>can't even get past Radahn's first phaseI think I've been filtered.I've used dryleaf arts for the entire run up to this point. I don't think I can beat him with this weapon.
>>484617027>hopesscaling on DLC weapons buffed>fearsflame knight greatsword nerfed
>>484617018Americans have weird sense of humor.
Reminder that anon just has a fucked up game install. It's a 15MB patch that will likely kill broken weapons, probably unban some Linux users due to Steam Deck and a Miquella jumpscare>>484617156Use all tools at your disposal bud or practice with Dryleaf some more and suffer till you get it. I believe in you anon
>>484617027I hope they are gentle with FKGS and do not nerf it too hard.
>>484617027>HOPESRadahn nerfed. NPC summons buffed for his fight.
What's in the patch?
>>484617237I'm euro
anyone know how to get to the mushroom armor cave via the abductor?i have tried getting the abductor teleport from below the huge wheel but once in magma land i don't know where to go
>>484617027>FearsExtended range of GSoD AoW: Golden Crux and fixed improper application of gravitational effect
Does anyone want to do pvp.....?I'm so bored.....
>>484617027I just confirmed right now in-game. Rolling Sparks (perfume ash of war) is nerfed. If you aim at the ground, you're not dealing a gorillion damage point blank anymore.
>>484617156You can totally beat him with dryleaf arts. You just need to make sure you know what his punish windows are and don’t get greedy. Maybe create some distance to bait him into one of his big attacks that have a long window to get a heavy attack in.
>>484617156Strength?
Bayles Tyranny or Bayles Flame Lightning?
>>484617237>AmericansIts 12:30am on the West Coast and 3:30am on the East Coast. That's a European anon.
>>484617323arena? I'm down for it but you'll gotta give me a few minutes
ten bucks says they fixed Nanaya's dumb torch
anybody else wanna face fuck these things? there faces seem oddly inviting and i bet they're gods at edging
>>484617381wait for the patch till you decide, see which gets buffed the most
>>484617151claws of night do magic damage but they also have a special shield penetrative effect also that host had 1100 HP or something while he's walking up to fight radahn lol
>>484617324please be joking
>>484617027>hopesbuff Miriam's Vanishing's distance. Add a Carian straight sword sorcery catalyst. Add a version of the Scaled Set without the scales. Remove all the retardedly strong pvp shit>fearsRadahn nerfed. I want at least another month of shitter seethe.
>>48461737270, 80 with my flask. Using a heavy infusion.
>>484617432I don't want Radahn nerfedI want a way to turn off the lightshow I can't fucking see anything
>>484617410that's obvious. they prioritize deathblight bugs.
Now that the dust has settled.What's the verdict of Elden Ring Dragon Transformations?
>>484617431He’s not, and I’m so gonna be invading you soon shitter, and there’s nothing you can do about it
>>484617531but I'm a redfag
>>484617431Not joking. I also tested on an iron maiden and a random knight. It deals significantly more damage than your R1s in one hit but it's not insane. It's mostly 1 hit of high range to make up for your perfume bottles not having much range on its basic attacks.
>>484617472Nah. The only thing I want changed about it, aside from obvious things like performance improvements, is to make Radahn like 2 feet shorter and give Mickey a haircut.
Patch notes?
>>484617151looks like bleed popped off. two l2s can proc bleed if arc is high enough/enough blades hit.
>>484617243>fucked up game installhe was just looking at the wrong number, steam doesn't show space needed for finished downloads which is why its not showing there. files that needed to be redownloaded would be listed as downloads with that icon as well
>>484617595lame, into the trash perfume bottles go then
>>484617513who cares? florissax exists
>>484616668You are an extra special case of retarded aren't you ?
>>484617513look cool but they're boring since they just give a buff to dragon spells
>>484617513waifu sexo real now
>>484617431It's not out yet, lmao
>>484617513I'm honestly annoyed they went with "emaciated haggard being" instead of at least some other take on Dragon transformation aesthetic for once, and I don't even really give a fuck about the transformations. Just seems disappointing on all fronts with nothing really cool about it.
Rolling sparks is dead
time to see what my next elden ring build should be
>>484616951Man I was about to give up on the DLC but that looks REALLY fun. Thanks anon.
>>484617513Why are there two?
>>484617418Have you seen the way they can just stop themselves from blowing their load instantly when you move too far away?Absolute goongods.
>>484617671>finished downloadsfinished patches, i mean
>>484617728which one did is land on anon?
please tell me the FKGS still has its R1 combo, I just had one drop...
>>484617832OH NO NO NO NO NO
>>484617762one is for dragon cult and one is for dragon communion
>>484617513would be better if you could wear gauntlets and pants instead of no armor at all.
>>484617513A massive step in the right direction. Rock Heart is really good
>>484617304We are all turning into americans I guess.
>>484617812it stayed in place when i let gonot sure what that means
>>484617931American cultural victory imminent.
I'm about 90% sure they didn't buff the stagger on Devonia's Vortex's AoW, nice patch lmao
>>484617402Sorry elden slop is stuck on some update.........I hate the japanese...........
WHERE ARE THE PATCH NOTES YOU FUCKING JAPS
First for Marika is a jar
>>484617965Guess you got to make the gayest build you can with the dancing blade of ranah.
new guy herewhy is this game so slow at giving you Perfume bottles?i hacve had only 3 so far and i already reached altus plateu
>>48461801525 minutes
Is the omen transformation/lamented worth a damn? Looks like a cool transformation but idk if it's worth using over armor
>>484618084you're not supposed to use crafting, anonit's a joke by the devs
>>484616886Polter stone, sorry for late response.
>>484617156PHOS POST SPOTTED
>>484617695Based
>Game just crashes whenever I try to start it up nowVery cool patch
>>484618084No idea. They’re not very good either.
anyway to recharge lone wolf ashes?
>>484618084They limit the amount of items on hand because you can farm materials to fill them easily
>>484617027>HopesDeflection nerf or not working with medium and great shieldsGreat shield nerfBleed nerfDLC weapons buff>FearsMore skibidi buffs
>>484618084Grand Merchant/CE
>>484616910>15mb updateits literally nothing
>open webm>golden parrydidn't beat the game.
>>484617027>Hopes LIGHT GREATSWORDS POISE DAMAGE BUFF FOR FUCK SAKE THIS SHIT HITS LIKE A WET NOODLE REANNALLAS SWORDS ARE LITERALLY UNPLAYABLE
>>484618084It should also be mentioned that Altus is the mid point and you can reach it extremely early if you do some item hunting.
>>484618012Well I'll go fight the frenzy guy again ig
>>484617513do they buff defenses at all?
Cancelled the patch download ASAP. Not doing it until those golems die by perfume.
>>484617018>type b character>cheated in itemsSounds like projecting.
What things should I test out
>>484618302its such a tiny filesize theres no way its a buff to anything major
>>484618486Rock heart gives 10% DR and 50 status resistance to each status
this is the first soulsbournekiro game where i don't feel like i actually learned how to beat any of the bosses. they are all so complicated and stupidly high damage that in the runs where i finally kill them im still getting hit by half their shit that i don't know how to dodge or was a new interaction based on spacing or timing or something that surprised me. bosses this complicated need a way to just fight them over and over. then again even if they added that i don't think i don't find beating these guys satisfying enough to fight them over and over. not like monster hunter where i can kill the same thing hundreds of times.
>>484618278anser me nigger
>>484618520Every time with these fucking troons.
>>484617704>" instead of at least some other take on Dragon transformation aestheticVisions of dragon
Carian sorcery sword useable now?
Someone fight me in the colosseum.....PW: erg
>>484618530FKGS, greatsword of damnation, swift slash
Kek Rolling Sparks is worthless now
>>484618665I agree, theyre so goddamn erratic you either get lucky with their combos or die. There's no learning any of that shit.t. someone who played all souls games on launch with no shield
>Dryleaf arts buffedNice. Maybe usable now.
>>484618778DON'T LIE TO ME
dis iz muh first sulz geam. iz preddy fun. shud i paly da uder sulz geams?
>>484618205imagine if his cock peeked out of his slit and the big dragon got all embarrassed and shy
>>484618778erm proof???
>>484618807you should kill yourself
Posted last thread but I have to ask what is the average attempt count for stuff like Bayle, Putrescent, Midra, Mother and the like? I don't think I had a optional boss that took me more than 5 tries after doing the main storyline. Maybe my Scadu Tree (6 Scadu/3 Shadow Blessing) was too high by the end of Radahn and Miquella? Been running shit like Dragonseal/Carian Regal Scepter replaced them with the Staff of the Great Beyond on my offhand swapping between Dragon Incantations, Bleed Incantations, Glintstone Sorceries and swapping between Mohg's Spear, Rivers of Blood, Moonviel and Uchigatana.
idk man I just keep getting hit by these light beamsI can nearly flawless phase 1 now but I'm literally mashing roll as fast as possible and it's not quick enough for some of these combos
>Morgott's sword>Too much DEX required for an ARC build>Too shitty for a DEX buildWho is this weapon for?
>>484618810Lansseax is a girl you faggot
>>484618807also wtf is the deal with all the xxx ahead? and when they say hidden path ahead, are they just trolling? I keep hitting the wall but nothing happens.
>>484618961Morgott
>>484618665kill yourself shitter>>484618772>I agree, theyre so goddamn erraticThey aren't, Radahn is disappointingly easy and formulaic and could have used mixups and less canned combos, git gud
>>484618978are you using the correct weapon?
How do you know there' s a patch, this time there's no announcement on twitter.I checked some pvp stre*m and people said it's mostly rolling sparks nerf lol
>>484618727gimme a moment
>>484619019stop trolling me nigger. i;m being seriuz
Fire Knight Greatsword R2 combo gone, just tested.Rolling Sparks got fucking NUKED INTO THE GROUNDThe scaling from the Smithscript weapons with elemental infusions has been massively fucking nerfed.Swift Slash might be the same, hard to tell.Sword Lance R2 R1 is still in the game.Chicken Leg still strong.Anything anyone wants to know if I can
>>484619045A message in-game popped up saying there would be a patch.
>>484619045Because of the download and banner?
>>484618971yeah i know i am also a "girl" :3
>>484619002
>>484619094>Fire Knight Greatsword R2 combo gone, just tested.NOOO FUCK
>>484617324I mean we all knew this was going to happen.
any notice of when the patch notes will be?
>>484618727what lvl?
>>484619236probably in 10 minutes
>>484619094Great Hunter Katana Arc Scaling?
>>484619236
>>484618278>anyway to recharge lone wolf ashes?anyway to recharge lone wolf ashes?
>>484619094From what I've seen the thrusting shield 100 guard while poking has been fixed
>>484618907>Magic and BleedWhat do you just apply nothing but status with the Dragon Breathes and Bleed? Also I spent 3 hrs fighting the dragon.
>>484618665not at all trueI was playing a boss rush mod before the dlc drop (since taken down) and learned the major bosses of the base gameelden ring just lets you outscale enemies with broken builds, stat blobbing, and skadus. any idiot can beat elden ring with persistence and a youtube build
damn wtf you had like 1HP leftI thought you were dead so I stopped attacking lmao
>>484619094Chicken wing?
>>484619283What's the Arc scaling on that katana? I thought it was a quality weapon
>>484616910i shamelessly used a summon against the twin tits whorecan i help people by being summoned after beating a boss?
>>484619482It has none but i wish they would add it to make it useful in dragon communion builds
>>484619094What about undertuned weapons, what's the Carian Sorcery Sword status?
>>484619543No buffs, only nerfs
>>484619094Carian sorcery sword scaling?
>>484619094>The scaling from the Smithscript weapons with elemental infusions has been massively fucking nerfed.Going to kill myself.
>>484619094Also what was the R2 combo?
>>484618278>>484618670>>484619358They're gone until NG+, should have read the walkthrough buddy
IS THERE ANY FUCKING WAY TO RECHARGE MUH LONE WOLDF FUCKIING ASHES?
>>484619581damn...
>>484619581you serious? fuck this game actually lmao
>>484617156Just get blasphemous blade and mimic tear. I did and beat him in 2 tries.
>>484619581The Fromsoft MO
Carianbros..... Hold me...
>>484619605Rest at a site of grace
QUALITY BUFF!!!!!!!!!!
>that big battle royale at the endI summoned Ansbach, Thiollier against Leda, Dane, Moore, Freya and Hornsent.What a silly battle.
>>484619605What the is recharge you faggot?
>let's just trust random posts and sperg put before the patch notes are out
>>484619094Any LGS changes? Leda's especially
>can't FKGS combo or rolling spark delete peoplealright, how should I cheese ganksquads now redbros?
>>484617027nerf every boss and enemydon’t nerf perfume bottles
>let's remove all the fun stuffclassic fromsoft
>>484619598I used them good and I was able to kill the werewolf nigger with them, but they are still in my inventory so I thought they may still be useful somehow but I guess not. thx.
Anybody else keep getting logged out? Updated, started playing, got logged out, signed in and started playing again, and got logged out again after a few minutes. On PS5.
>>484619716If you play it out in certain ways you can fight all of them together, or you can fight with A/T against only Leda and Dane and any variation within
>Carian Sovereignty nerfedNOOOOOOOOOOO
>join arena for the 4th time>inappropriate activity detected??? what?
chainsaw still not fixed lol
>>484619820no problem
>want danes footwork for main game but dont wanna twink>Start new char>beat morgott>Friend convinces me to just take his +0 one and ug it to where i am>Do so>start getting my ass kicked everywherei guess i didnt need to worry about "twinking" miquellas crown is nice though
>>484619839Wait really? Why lolIt can't hit anything
>>484619848how do you even do it
>>484619758You can go in game and test it out yourself. Perfumes are total dogshit now.
>carian sorcery sword isnt a somber weapon but cant be ashed to convert its scalingis that a unique thing? i thought it was always nonsomber can be ashed and somber cant
>>484619847EAC is garbage and will think you're cheating if your controller disconnects or sometihng
>>484619581CURSE YOU, FROM!I HEREBY VOW! YOU WILL RUE THIS DAY!
>>484619758Faggot I'm testing them as we speak.>>484619593Mistype. Meant the R1 combo.>>484619763I never used LGS so I can't tell what it was like beforehand.
>>484618907depends mostly on people builds at the time and how they play. bayle took me forever, but now every boss i fought since then has felt like a joke in comparison because i have so many stats. someone doing purely r1/r2 is going to have a much different time than someone summoning ashes or phantoms or spamming busted ash of wars or particularly busted jump attacks or spellcringe
>>484619967well I can't get back in so it was fun while it lasted
>>484619513yes
>>484619581good
>>484619930perfumes were dogshit before, its really just rolling sparks.
>was going to invade people with the fkgswelp, there goes my plans for the nightwhat now
PATCH NOTES DOKO
>>484619953serpentbone blade is a +25 fixed ash weaponi
>>484619581Reminder this is the MP subhuman's fault.
>>484619805As I expected. Fucking christ
>>484619094>The scaling from the Smithscript weapons with elemental infusions has been massively fucking nerfed.Why?
If you used anything that got nerfed then you didn't beat the game
The ONLY boss I've had trouble with is Commander FatpigWhat a fuckwit, I'm pulling my hair out
I feel like they buffed skadoosh blessings again or lowered enemy damage
the game crashes every time i launch it now
>>484620193Infusing them with Flameart would make faith buff the physical damage and the fire damage by the same amount giving you basically 2 times the scaling.However even with that they were still mid tier, so nerfing them is fucking dumb.
>>484619390Yeah that sounds about right. I do also use pots/roped pots to proc stuff like Sleep and Frostbite. Hefty Freeze Pot has been fun.>>484620007Yeah I was banging my head against Radahn and Miquella before I did everything else and I stopped struggling with most other bosses.
>>484620260Thank god
Back to GSGS and Milady I guess
>>484620193Let's make a useless weapon even more useless
What are the most fun weapon arts to fuck up elites and minibosses with? I was using giant hunt (on my smithscript spear, didn't realize you could use it on guts sword to break the whole game until I finished the DLC)P.S. I love blue dew
>>484620325The Hefty pots are fucking great
link the patchnotes
>>484620258you didn't have trouble with Radahn>
>>484619094>Rolling Sparks got fucking NUKED INTO THE GROUNDDamn, I maxed the lightning perfume to +25 yesterday and just started using rolling sparks...
>>484620405
>>484620405there aren't any yet
I hoped they buffed marika's braid to ignore all holy damage and make it so holy attacks don't put you into hitstun.
>>484619839Why? It already did less damage than Carian Grandure on the first hit, its only benefit was that it had a follow up attack.
>>484619930yeah, that wasn't exactly unexpected.>>484619996thanks, I wanted to be disproven
>>484620415Haven't got there yet
>>484619839What was so OP about it anyways? It deals somewhat good damage if you manage to do the entire thing but it's really fucking slow, does the poise counterbalance that?
>>484620330gsgs?
>>484620535godslayer greatsword
>nerf smithscript weapons despite them not being that great
>>484620442you're dumb to have done that, it was very obviously a bug
shitscript spear running r2 still consumes double stamina probsbly making it the most stan consuming attack in the game
>>484620569smithscript spear was flavorful as fuck idk why they did it
REST IN FUCKING PEACE
I really didn't think we'd get nerfs this fast damn, they must have an employee who does nothing but watch PvP videos on youtube or something
>No fun allowed patchLooks like I'm never installing any update patches from now on
>>484620535preferred over asdf or PvP, and hfjg when using mimic
>beat radahn before the lightning perfume nerfyou didnt really beat him
I bet Palm Blast still has infinite poise.
What are good sorceries to have on hand with an MLGS build?
>>484620592have you tried golem fists yet?their R2 consumes more stamina than any other weapon in the gametheir charged R2 eats your entire stamina barand its ranged projectile vanishes after about the range of a melee weapon lmao
>>484620391Right? Someone gets it! It's surprising how many times I've been summoned to help only to have someone who doesnt have use Consumables or even self buffs.
>>484620660it's been well over a week, they could have done this day 3
>>484620660God forbid they nerf the overturned bosses
>>484620720Carian Sword spells
>>484620660Perfumes has been memed about on here, twitter, reddit, twitch, et c. Not hard to find out
bruh where are the fucking patch notes from
>>484620442Just killed all fire golems with it yesterday. The shittiest enemy from did so far. Glad I could cheese those.
>>484620767the bosses are finesummon your spirit ash if you dont want to try too hard
>>484620736Crafting consumables is such a chore, they should just be purchasable.
>>484620781"we adjusted some stuff"theres your patch note bro
>>484620724I was using them in an fc wondering why i never had any stam lol
>>484619589>>4846197011k comet with +8 (out of 25) carian weapon with comet.19 scoobydo fragments. no spell bufs of any kind with 80 int.Didn't have it upgraded and ran out of upgrade mats.No idea if this is a buff since I'm not a wizard normally.
>>484620805FUCK I wish I had thought of that, ugh I don't want to fight those things legit they're so fucking tediouseven the few that you can firepot are a pain in the ass
>>484620781>bruhN
>>484620809Funny how that never applies the other way around.
>>484620868whats the spellbuff on it
>>484617792KEK
>>484620841they are quite possibly the worst weapon in the game and this game has varre's bouquet and cane sword and so ongolem fists are just hideously bad
>>484620673>not using DBFG and getting 15k in one hit with no stamina use
>>484620939Doesn't say.B scaling with Int at +8 so I think that's a big change from it.
>all these people who haven't experience the classic Fromsoft patching experienceBut at least they added Faith scaling to Wolnir's Holy Sword right guys? And the Ringed Knight Paired Greatswords aren't THAT bad after the nerf haha...
>>484621020is cane sword actually that bad? i thought it was like worse and pointless but probably fine
Do I have to summon Ansbach and Thiolier for Radahn to complete their quests?
>Patch comes out>Everything is nerfed into the ground>Literally don't care because I'm playing Occult Fangs + Endure and nothing elsePoison Chads just can't stop WINNING baby!
>>484621062increased the scaling then, hopefully they buffed the casting too
>>484621126yes but you only have to do it once supposedly, so even if you die then do it solo it still counts
>>484620736Cute
>>484621126i dont think you need to but dont trust me on this
>>484621035zxcv bros....
QUICK SOMEONE CHECKDID THEY NERF THE ONLY GOOD BOW IN THE GAME??
So the game is bad now?Wow
i want to like magic but i don't like it being limited by manamelee bros can keep going all day but i will run out of mana at some point
https://en.bandainamcoent.eu/elden-ring/news/elden-ring-patch-notes-version-1123its here sisters
>>484621237BAD GATEWAY AAAHHHHHHHHHHH
>>484621212you forget the bone bow
>>484621143mohgs spears weapon skill has been breaking the pve in half all this time but i guess from forgot
>>484621229you can regen FP in many ways, anon
>>484619094>Rolling sparks nerfedGuess shitters will have to find a new crutch
>>484621062>>484621161IT HAS INT S SCALING AT +25WE ARE SO BACK CARIANBROS
https://en.bandainamcoent.eu/elden-ring/news/elden-ring-patch-notes-version-1123?utm_source=SM_Official&utm_medium=official_post&utm_campaign=EldenRing_PatchNotes1123
>>484621319The spell damage is still godawful. At 80 INT my Regal Scepter does probably around 80% more damage.
>>484621237>nerfed the fuck out of everythingFUCK THIS GAME AJHSFGSUJAG
>bug fixesWhy are they so afraid to call them nerfs?
Is having a nigh unkillable enemy with a madnesss aura, a grab, and great aggro retention all it takes to make invading fun again?
>>484621229blue dew talisman
Despite the Chicken Wing being "fixed" it still shits out insane bleed.
>CTRL + F Blind Spot>0 resultsLMAOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
>>484621392>night unkillableI wiped them out with a parry lmao
Someone screenshot all the changes please website is dead for me
>no official notes yet>OMG WTF WHY THEY NERF MY WEPON
>>484619094>The scaling from the Smithscript weapons with elemental infusions has been massively fucking nerfedWell I hope I'm not wasting my time remaking my RL60 throwing hammer build as a Vagabond this time.
>Smithscript Dagger / Smithscript CirqueIs the Smithscript Greathammer untouched?
>Fixed a bug where the Arcane scaling of the Bloodfiend's Arm weapon was higher than intended when setting an affinity. The status buildup of the heavy attack was also reduced.It's over.
>>484621372if it's unintended or malfunctioning, it's a bug.if the bug makes something stronger than intended, the bug fix is effectively a nerf. that doesn't make it not a bug fix
redbros what do I use to cheese ganksquads now? legit askingsword of damnation?
>>484620809Hope midzaki is paying you good for keeping his boots clean
>>484621424>dude p2w lmaonot relevant
>Torrent isn't at all scared of running around in scarlet rot infested Caelid with mutant crows and t-rex dogs or the deathblight infested deep roots>But is scared of some woods with yellow fire in the rocksThe Abyssal Woods suck so much ass, doesn't help that there's literally nothing here.
>>484621502[Your favorite weapon] got removed
HAHAHAHHAAHAAAAAANERFED GOLEM FISTS INFUSIONDIDN'T BUFF ITS THROW RANGETHE WORST WEAPON IN THE GAME GOT NERFED
>Changed the placement of the bosses in the re-fight against the Golden Hippopotamus and Commander Gaius bosses to be in the same position as in the first fight.What does this even mean
>>484621229Magic is meant to supplement, not replace melee combat. Either way later in the game spells do so much damage and there's a bonfire every two steps so you'll never run out. I only have 4 mana flasks and if I go through DLC zones only using spells I still never run out.
>>484621360It really is "no fun allowed".
>absolutely NON of the unusable garbage got buffed and none of the low bugged damage numbers were fixedsee you in 6 months
>>484621506lol retard
>terrible weapons that no one used>better nerf them
>Increased the Intelligence scaling of the Carian Sorcery Sword and slightly decreased the base damage.So is it good now?>>484621501Yeah, hence the "nigh". I know you're really proud of yourself for landing a parry, but try to keep up.
>>484621534hm if only there was only something that slashes swiftly
Fixed a bug where some special effects of a right-handed weapon would also be applied to the following Weapon Skills when cast with the left hand:>Feeble Lord's Frenzied Flame>Discus Hurlit was fun while it lasted. not shocking
Carian Sorcery sword any good now or is it still shit?
>>484621608gayass no longer right in front of you sucking your cock after the first fight and spawns in the back like when you first go in
>>484621321>>484621237>Thorns not nerfedWorking as intended
>when there are so many effects from the coop that you can't see what the fuck is happening as a melee
>>484621608they won't be directly in front of the gate when you re-fight them
>>484621321>>484621237It's basically nothing
>Claymore no longer scales with Dexterity>Claymore no longer scales with Dexterity>Claymore no longer scales with Dexterity?????????????????????????????????????????????????????????
>>484621608It means you don’t get instantly bulldozed by Gaius the second you cross the fog gate anymore. He has to take a minute to run into view again, like the first time you fight him.
>>484621608So they're less likely to power fuck you in the entranceway. Golden Hippo might have to take more than a second to just go right into his grab.
>>484621506>no official notes out yetDoes he know?
>>484621321Hope every worker at fromslop get every cancer possible
So does disabling the summoning pools in certain areas disable invasions there, too?
Can anyone test if the game no longer runs like assOnly reason I'd bother patching
>>484621652>literally made shitty weapons shittierwtf
>>484621652Smithscript shield was busted, idk about the others though.
>>484621671>Decreased the damage and damage animation of the shearing vacuum effect of the “Swift Slash” Skill.
>Fixed a bug that where the unblockable bite attack of the Golden Hippopotamus boss would connect with players more easily than intended.There it is, the first boss nerf.
>>484621668>>484621680They increased the damage scaling, it still has 0 spell scaling as far as I know.
>>484621757No longer 40 fps when near waterfalls?I bet it's still shit
>>484621757it patches automatically if u buy the game bro
>>484621690The smithscript nerfs were far more pressing apparently.
>>484621652smithscript weapons got like 900 damage from going magic/flame art/sacred
>>484620023Just restart the game.
>>484621852And they were still fucking trash.
>>484621608For Gaius specifically I remember him initially starting at the exit gate, similar to Gyoubu, that way you don't get immediately fucked by his charge upon entering the arena on subsequent attemptsIMO they should have fixed his hitboxes instead but whatever
>>484621803Thanks a lot fromshit
>>484621652source?I dont see it here https://www.bandainamcoent.com/news?game=elden-ring
How does From decide which weapons are allowed to be good and which must be nerfed into uselessness?
>all the nerfs are "bug fixes"This reminds me when they "bug fixed" caitlyn from LoL.
>>484621610if it's melee > magic what class do i pick?prisoner or confessor starts to sound better than astrologer
>>484621708>thrusting shield guard poke nerfedIt's so fucking joever
>noo don't fix bugs that I abuse, fix these other bugs though
>>484621835You can bypass that easily
>>484620023She's joking, when it disconnects you just have to restart the game, it cant reconnect ingame
>>484621792its still probably broken in pvp unless they totally gimped it. the mobility and stunlock are too good
>>484621362I was testing carian slicer at 70 int with carian regal staff and carian sorcery sword>Regal - 916>Sword - 758It's okay i guess
>>484621803lmao. I was wondering why they didn't mention spell buff. I guess I'll just keep meming around with Miriam's until they make it not shit.
>>484621237How hard did they nerf script AR?
>>484621838Honestly I'm glad I held off doing the DLC for a bit. Gives me time to respec from using INT. God I was hoping for more INT spells or at least buffs. This is just a joke.
CAN SOMEONE CHECK THE BLEED BUILDUP ON THE BLOODFIEND'S ARM PLEASE
>>484621750If you mean getting invaded, no you cannot escape invasions.If you mean you are the one invading, also no. Effigies/summoning pools don't affect where you invade when using the fingers.
>>484621668>you're really proud of yourself for landing a parryI am, praise me
>>484621972It's not nerfed, it's bug fixed :^)
>swift slash only got damage nerfs>blind spot untouchedWe’re not free of this thing this weapon type is going rob status
I fucking called it. All the broken shit was intentional to get people to cave and buy the game. I knew I was playing smart by waiting for balance patch before going into the DLC.
>>484621992>If you mean you are the one invading, also no. Effigies/summoning pools don't affect where you invade when using the fingers.Super fucking gay. Can't even disable invasions in the Minor Erdtree Catacombs where there are STILL broken spawn points that will cause you to fall to your death.
>>484621237>perfumes nerfedDamn wtf. At least the sword catalyst was buffed, is it any good now?
Thornbros avoiding the 'bugfixes'
>impenetrable thorns untouched>blind spot untouched
So what's good for invasions now? Maybe I'll give Messmer's spear a shot
>>484622050Yes, you're a genius, anon. Amazing foresight.
Carian sorcery sword is so fun
What is this chicken wing, what is chicken leg?
>>484622002Proud of you sport. Keep it up and soon enough you'll be parrying Radahn.
Radahn and Gaius having i-frames? The zero frame turns boss do when attacking you? Enemies just going straight over your shield while still damaging you? Gaius's double hit single kick and bullshit charge? Not bugs.
>>484622103Nanaya's torch still puts people into madness in about 0.5 second to let you true combo 100-0 into whatever finisher move you wantdeathblight was just a meme build with it
>>484621835You can turn off automatic updates in steam and launch the game manuallyt. playing on 1.12 to avoid skibidi buffs specifically
>>484622069Yes it is retarded. I pretty much only do the invade nearby option now.
>>484622128I don't think this artist got the memo that Thiollier's a dude.
>>484622103legit question, why would thorns get nerfed when Ancient dragon lighting strike gets a pass?
>Fixed a bug that caused enemies to heal when the Maximum HP reduction gradual HP reduction effect applied by Black Knife Tiche wore off.I FUCKING KNEW IT
>>484621954They'll never fix it
Carianbros im thinking we are back
>>484622209Yet again modders manage to implement a feature better than a multi-million dollar developer.
>>484622263
>>484622227because thorns doesn't have your character dick around for 4 seconds of casting animation with 0 poise
can you fags post the notes already
>>484622232ok I knew I was going crazy when I used tiche and the HP just reset
>>484621360Made the weapons uselessGood one Mr Zaki
>>484622128thiollier on hrt
>>484621989194 at 90 arc and +21
>>484621750>disabling the summoning poolshuh? i thought there was no way to do that
>Fixed a bug where the attack affinity of some attacks of the Fire Knight's Greatsword were different than expected.What the fuck does that mean? Did you lower or increase the damage?
>>484622238To be fair to them, that's because, iirc, it's pretty unprecedented to change a thrusting sword to a straight sword. Adding spell buff would have been nice though.
>>484622032not sure what you can do to make those skills balanced in pvp. they both turn a dark souls character into kung lao from mortal kombat. the game would need actual feints or sub 10 frame attacks like in fighting games to actually allow for dodge attack moves like it to be fair
>>484622232>my wife got buffedbased
>>484622340doesn't matter when all bosses have opening that let you get it off to one-shot
>>484622423There is now. Go to your map and press L1.
>>484622424Probably changed the hitstun to the same as godslayers, removing the true combo.
>>484622424Please understand
>>484621708so they removed the one interesting thing with thrusting shields rather than rebalance it? guard frames was legitimately fun and rewarded aggressive defense. now its just a worse version of fingerprint + antspur. theres no benefit over L1+R1
>>484622347nigger read the thread
>>484617027>hopesGreatshields nerfed, radahn made immune to status effects, lightning perfume fixed, thrusting shields fixed>fearsbosses get nerfed because of the outcry from the bads
>>484622204>invade with nanayas>realize it would be far more deadly in a banker’s hands since you can capitalize on the madness proc without getting dogpiledIt’s not fair it’s suppose to be OUR status!
>>484622579post them bitch
>>484622519Deflect tear with magic shield and barricade ez
>>484622128This dlc is not bad at all, but why do I find myself a bit bored? I haven't gotten to Massmer yet so maybe I'm missing the best part, but up until Rellana and the Lion everything seemed mid. The city of the dancing lion wasn't bad, but the Rellana castle probably seemed short and a bit anonymous.
>Str/Arc builds finally get good weapons>instantly ruin themNo, I will not use the fucking Meteoric Greatsword. Arcane weapons without status are retarded.
>>484622590Literally anything is more deadly in a gankers handsIf you invade in Limgrave or Liurnia right now and don't just insta-sever and block you're doing yourself a disservice I have not played against true gankers in months
>>484622730bloodfiend arm doesn't have status thoughever
>>484622476....opening?
rip my nigga flame knight greatsword...I'll have to start bringing something else to invasions
>>484622779are you pretending to be retarded?
>>484622590Anything tht lock you in place benefits ganker more than invaders.Invaders like high burst damage with good AOE, preferably with low commitment.
>nothing in the patch aside from multiple cheese methods rightfully fixedgonna be seeing even more of pic rel now
>>484622829WhyYou can't one touch people anymore but it's still strong as fuck
>invaderniggers btfoThanks Miyazaki
>>484621989SOMEOEN PLEASE TELL ME TELL MEEEEEE
>>484622635The level design is worse than the base game. The open world is very pretty, but exploration and navigation are generally way worse. The main Bosses are the only consistently good thing in the DLC (aside from the aesthetics and new toys of course).
>>484618665It's not that they're particularly difficult, it just highlights how dull the combat system is. So you have a spastic boss, right? Well you can just slap on one of the ashes of war that buffs your shield. Or you can throw on frost stomp for base game Radahn and frost him to death. Or you throw on bleed, etc. You absolutely have the tools, or you can get them, but that isn't satisfying to me. I know some people love fucking with the physick, ashes of war, spells, etc. but it isn't for me. At this point I'm playing Elden Ring Shadow to get weapons for pvp.
>>484622882>You can't one touch people anymorethat's why, if I'm invading three niggers hanging around a cleared out dungeon I need something that can one touch or otherwise cheese them hard>what you're not good enough to take them out legit?yes
>thrusting shield nerfed>swift slash nerfed>chicken leg nerfed>perfume nerfed>knight greatsword nerfed>gravitational missile not touchedI hope blind spot is next
>>484622412WHAT WAS IT PRE PATCH
>>484622875?
>>484623029not pretending then, got it
>>484617747claws of night are quite fun. it's like a shotgun reduvia with l2, and it has the typical claw moveset, so it's going to be good no matter. r2 throws the claws, but it's not as good as l2.
>>484623003what's wrong with blind spot?
>>484622956>The level design is worse than the base game. The open world is very pretty, but exploration and navigation are generally way worseAesthetically it's really wow, but I also have the feeling that it's less refined than the base game.
>>484621652>nerf the worst weapons in the game>>484622232>buff one of the most overpowered summons in the gameHmmmm
>>484623021220
>>484622976There's plenty of ashes in the base game that can do that thenOr you can keep using the fire knight greatsword, probably one shot a guy with flame skewer, and then mash ignorantly with hyperarmor on the other two
>>484623138Thank you ily
Impale the hornsent, race war now
>>484623104>quickstep that deals damageShouldn’t exist>>484623029Anon you can’t be this stupid
>>484623104it's incredibly braindead in pvp and requires no reaction time or skill to instantly punish your enemy the moment they do anything
>>484623201>base gameyeah but I already used those to death, I want to use DLC stuff
>>484622263I don't know about that one chief. The AR is low (539 at 80INT), spell damage is low, can't change the ash, can't buff it. I suppose it's there if you really really don't like swapping weapons and must have a shield as a caster.
>>484623134>buffIt was objectively a bug. They're not suppose to heal.
>immediately lose all will to continue on my chicken wing characterThis was the deepest I had gone into the fucking DLC with a committed build. I knew I should have just atuck with my Str/Fth vagabond.
>>484622730Anon said the nerf to the status wasn't that bad
>>484623230>>484623061>no argument
>Fixed a bug that caused enemies to heal when the Maximum HP reduction gradual HP reduction effect applied by Black Knife Tiche wore off.>I FUCKING KNEW IT>>484622232LET'S GO
>>484619805Rolling sparks, thrusting shields and swift slash were obviously bugged.
>>484623119Yeah, as somebody who generally enjoys the base game open world, I feel very strongly that the DLC shouldn't have had one. I think resources that could have been put into the levels were instead spent on creating a beautiful and large open world that doesn't have enough going on to justify its size.
>>484623345swift slash wasn't bugged, it was just too good for PvP hence the nerf only applying to PvP
>>484623338genuinely awful thumbnail and image
>>484621362>>484621952I'm getting a bit under 15% more damage from carian slicer with academy staff at 60int vs swordso it's definitely useable and I'll probably try it with a magic estoc or something tomorrow>>484621989bloodfiend's blood arm at 60arc is at 190 bleed down from 217, also now scaling C with arc instead of Boccult arm is still S
>>484621652Oh great thanks fromsoft I was having too much fun with my cirques
>>484623254Well I make do with the lower AR you'd get from the Staff you get from Metyr. I wish the stat screen would actually support how much casting power it has.
>>484623313you can respec in this game
>>484623254You could pair it with the Carian Thrusting Shield maybe?
>>484619805Crux is untouched go ahead and one shot with nigh infinite poise
>>484622829Flame Art Great Katana with Flaming Strike is pretty good.
>>484623491I wish it wasn't so fucking ugly or I'd go do this in a heartbeat
These changes only convince me more that they're doing everything in their power to stop people from level capping. Who the fuck at Fromsoft is getting salty about meta levels?
have an awful OC edit to honor the best boss in the game
Did ranged sleep not get nerfed?
>>484623338genuinely amazing thumbnail and image
>>484623562kino
>>484623254it's not for ranged spells, it's for comboing with sword sorceriesit's like aquamarine dagger sort of
>>484623564you can still deal 1600 damage and apply sleep instantly in pvp with ansbach's bow
>used perfume and bloodfiend arm before the nerf>beat radahnfeels good :)
>>484623476for free
>>484623637Please god why do they let this shit just sit in the game for years
>>484623635ThisVarious Carian Sword spells cast faster after a weapon r1 attack
>>484623650>>beat radahnnope
>>484623562lmao
>>484623476Which one?
>>484623476Anon was ashamed of his fetish, he truly has no place here.
>>484622263At 72 INT +25 its regular pokes still do more damage than carian slicer, it's workable but still pretty unimpressive
>>484623809Im not screenshotting it
>No reanalla swords buffIt's joever. One of the most demanding quality weapons has zero poise damage, there is literally no reason to use it over Milady.
>First time playing since I beat the fame on release>Started a new character to play through the DLC>Just got to Altus Plateu>Already bored... Maybe I'm just bored of Souls combat.It's kinda dull I'll admit. Even trying something new with Faith/Incants it's kinda shallow and repetitive, and a bit too easy.IDK if I'll even make it to the DLC content. I might just drop it here to be honest.
I wish they'd nerfed Radahn so I could tell more people they didn't beat the game
>>484623862Regular weapons beat somber weapons all the time
Just downloaded a patch, what got nerfed and what got buffed?
Am I retarded or are weapon buffs not meant for casters? >stack faith>infuse weapon with fire or holy>can't use bloodflame blade etc>stack str>get a little bit of faith>infuse weapon with heavy>can use bloodflame blade
I think playing a woman in every souls game since DaS has given me a ryona fetish...
>>484623862Stop being a faggot and level your character. Her swords are like Loretta's Sickle. Absolute god tier when you level deep.
Favorite weapon category poll is still active. Go vote!https://strawpoll.com/eJnvV75rWnvhttps://strawpoll.com/eJnvV75rWnvhttps://strawpoll.com/eJnvV75rWnv
>>484618665Agreed, I felt like I didn't know how to dodge the entirety of most of Radahn's longer phase two combos, but it's wildly variable how much he decides to use them vs the shorter/easier combos. Seemed like it would've taken a lot longer if the luck factor was removed.
>>484623973everything you're using is nerfed
>>484623898Liurnia and Altus open worlds are a slog, I thought the DLC did a much better job of keeping it tighter
>>484623763Based. Grats on BEATING the shit of this hard game, bruh. Used the same instruments and destroyed most bosses with it two days ago.
quite literally all of these changes require 5 minutes of coding and it still takes them a month
>>484623994They aren't, I figured this out a few days ago.Sacred Blade is pretty good though, but yeah it's retarded.
Just beat Romina. She was definitely intended to be a boss in the base game originally, right? Her difficulty seems very fitting for it. I imagine she was originally meant to be a boss in the rot lake somewhere. She also just feels very random to be the last guard before Miquella.
>>484623973They added in a new incantation from Godskin Apostle's PrayerbookIts called Noble CartwheelIt extends your belly and shapeshifts you into your mom and rolls along the ground dealing damage and knocking enemies out of your path
>>484624027A big factor being the fucking double slash
>>484624078>a monthunder 2 weeks
>Still no fan art of cute villager Marika
>>484624074sry, meant for this>>484623650
>>484621708>nerfed almost everything>did little to nothing to buff or fix shitty weapons/spellsFor fuck's sake.
>>484623950I’ve always hated this about soul games. Makes boss souls feel worthless when they’re the main challenge
>>484623230idk, beast claw also has a quickstep that deals damage, but it has huge recovery frames so it is a lot tougher to use and therefore no one complains about it. so i don't think it's the concept as much as the executionpersonally i like blind spot since it's one of the few things in this game that let me fight bosses that just spam combos at you like messmer and radahn and without feeling like i'm waiting for my turn for the vast majority of the fight. >>484623238well yeah the whole souls pvp "formula" completely breaks down when you introduce really basic shit to it because it is built on shoddy terrain to begin with. weapons that are like greatswords or bigger have actually no real offensive options, only defensive options. so when you introduce a tool like blind spot to them, they just completely crumble because their one "trick" of poise trading against a shittier attack no longer works.ftr you can beat blind spot spam with a lot of faster weapons, since those weapons actually have (mostly) unreactable attacks and blind spot in itself is reactable so you can't just throw it out from neutral
>>484623461It's about the themeing of the character. Many people like creating characters built around themes for replayability. For him it was str/arc chicken wing. Now that's gone.
>>484624171You know they'd just lolify her.>tfw no Loli Marika stomping filthy Hornsent into jars with her little feet.
>>484618665>this is the first soulsbournekiro game where i don't feel like i actually learned how to beat any of the bossesprobably because you're a bad and cheesed your way through the fights instead of trying to learn themyou issue
>>484623753>>484623635It's not any faster than casting with an off-hand staff. Sword sorceries also have less range when cast with the sword because it casts them from the hilt, whereas with a staff it casts them from the tip.
>>484624192it's like i always say: when the game gets hard so do i
>trying to shift around things to make up for the guard boost loss on thrusting shields>oh, braggart's roar is perfect>moveset changing roars cant be equipped on thrusting shields cause they didnt bother to give it an changed R2im pretty pissed. i spent the week building a new character for this build.
>>484624202>nerfedfixed*
>>484624247nah ER bosses just suck
>>484623994Dark Souls 2 fixed this problem. But like many things DS2 actually did well, it never saw the light of day again.
>>484622793Imagine being Miquella and this happens to you within a nanosecond of becoming a god. What a fucking LOSER.
throwing dagger bros, did we win?
Hey /erg/ how's the chicken wing with the new patch? I just started a str arcane character with the intent for it to be my endgame weapon. Is it still as good as before? I'm so excited to try it!
>>484624290>waaaaah my exploit has been patched out waaaaaaaaaaaaahNext time try not being an exploitranny
>Aroused by grab attack again
>>484624262>Sword sorceries also have less range when cast with the sword because it casts them from the hilt, whereas with a staff it casts them from the tip.Never mind I forgot they changed that.
>>484617095too washed out and brown to be bloodborne. A distinct lack of soul.
is just me or do the bear claws suck ass in PvP
>>484624332i gotta go back and finish ds2 one of these days
>>484624192>>484624074Too late you already revealed your congratulations were a shallow veil for a seethe post directed at me. YDBTG
>>484624005>Absolute god tier when you level deepAnd the name of the god is Nurgle.
>>484623994weapon buffs are for SL 250 casters who get 30 more AR from applying a weapon buff instead of infusing
>>484624472Because you'll be happy while doing it, but also fat and ugly? I don't get it.
He's kinda mid
>>484624309nah you just suck
>>484624574kys
>>484624465they are awfulnot particularly fast, HUGE stamina consumption, mediocre damage, incredibly long recovery time, no hyperarmorthey suck in pvp and pve alike
>>484624469I did and killed that hard boss faster than you, anon. Just learn to read and utilize tools that game gives you :3
>>484624574Mickeypedos got btfo by this design
>>484624574Sucking Miquella’s cock
>>484624465i think they're good against most builds but you lose horribly to anyone you can't stunlock with savage claws. your trades are bad so you need to stagger someone and put them in a roll catching loop as soon as possible. i think overall they're a good invasion weapon because you can really go all-in on someonei recommend either occult, bleed or heavy/keen buffed with bloodflame blade. all about equally useful id sayhot tip: you can cancel your savage claws with a roll (very useful) and your heavy with a backstep (less useful)
>>484624395Anyoen?
>>484624465Some guy tried to use it on me and I just kept thrusting his face
>>484624574You won't be saying that when you're buried balls deep up his hot sticky guts, hearing him make weird reedy keening noises through his hitching breath as he jerks his hips up and down unsteadily, his eyes vacant, mouth drooling, Haligtree tramp stamp glowing bright....
>>484624529No, because this sword is trash. I have huge stat investment and on paper it does a lot of damage but it also is split between two elements + phys. On top of everything it does piss poor poise damage and can't make omens flinch even with charged R2. There is only one redeemable quality and it's flame part of AOW.
>>484624465>>484624704oh i'm retarded i thought u said beast clawyeah the bear claw doesn't have access to the good weapon skills so it's mostly a pve weapon as far as i can tell
the newfag tourists who only played ER crying about bosses being difficult unlearnable or whatever other cope can't leave soon enoughthey all just want to dps race a boss with ash of war spam and for it to fall over and die before they do
>>484618665Basically 90% this. >>484619004Post video of you killing radahn without getting hit
>>484624465Offhand beast claw is unironically good for any melee build
>>484624626>hardlol, lmao>utilize tools that game gives youunnecessary>:3wash your ass nigga
>>484624749I hate the game for even pandering to deranged porn addicts like you. The fact that the final boss had to be ruined by this rapist tranny pedo shit, even.
>>484623397So it's worse? Should I just abandon my str/arc character? Just beat rennala and heading to Altus
>St. Trina is just a floral mutant instead of a 100/10 priestess cosplayer
>>484624332The DLC and ymfah's newest video have got me hankering for a new DS2 run.
>>484624864This post has ovaries
>>484624869yes you should just uninstall
>>484624876cumming on st. trina's face
pretty funny how backhand blades weigh 2.0 when it's 2 swords half a pound per sword lol what are they fucking made of
Most of the patch fixes are good, but why in the fucking hell would you nerf smithscript weapons? They need a buff if anything.
>>484624930Isekai anime
How is the deflecting hard tear with the Carian Knight sword R2's? Does that work or is the R2 block not counted?
>>484624930>2.0 when it's 2 swords>half a pound per swordmath checks out
>>484624332>Infuse weapon with magic>still can use crystal weapon on itTANIMURA I KNEEL
>tourists here unironically saying that bosses never stop attacking and that you can't learn their patterns while videos keep getting shat out on youtube of people no-hitting every boss at Sl1 without cheese builds
>>484624819no i just want them to make good bosses again instead of this spastic anime bullshit
>>484624876Her flower will forever be in my head armour slot
>>484624876>being surprised that Trina is Yoshitaka Amano illustration given the nature of Miquella's sister
>>484624120>yanks you in >sometimes does a giant combo with 10+ instances of damage>sometimes does the same combo as phase one>sometimes does nothing I genuinely don't get what they were going for. It feels like he wasn't playtested much but surely that's not true for the final boss of an expansion? Like not even in terms of difficulty, he just does bizarre shit like walking slowly towards you sometimes
>>484624952They increased the range of the daggers, at least
>>484624979I assume it works, but half the point of that tear is the insane damage boost you get on your guard counter R2 after blocking. Which you won't get from the blocking R2 of that weapon. Might be fun either way.
does the game keep crashing for anyone elselike the moment you select your character it just crashes
>>484625006alas i was thinking in kilograms for scant a moment. yes i meant 1 pound per sword
Where is Carian Sovereignty?Is it okay?Is it all right?
>>484624952Shield is why don’t know why they all suffered for it though
>>484625058If you get hit by even one part of the long drawn out meteors attack, you're just fucked
>>484625012>look someone solos the boss at RL1 that means it's totally not hard easy as fuck frfr no capthat's like saying guns can't kill you because there is one guy who survived being shot in the headhow retarded can you be
>>484625086Daggers with headshot talisman are probably really good for messing around in pvp now.
How are the dueling shields now?Are they usable without the deflect tear?
>>484625012The difference is the average person isn't a no life who spends hours studying boss patterns for a youtube video.
>>484625034>hurrdurrrhurr spastic anime bullshit hurr durryou could just say that you are bad you know?because you are, all the bosses have lots of openings and frequently too
>>484623898ymmv but i tried a run through with a sekiro deflect/moveset mod and it made the game infinitely-more engaging
Claymore or Knight's GS for Carian Sovereignty?
>>484621212dang i missed this on my bow only character
>>484617156deflect
Hold on hold on, can you IMAGINE being a cariancel for a second? >only a handful of good sorceries >all have the same animations >best sorcerer npc is anti-carian sellen>carian knights are all but extinct lore wise>finally get a blue flame equivalent and it's worse than ds2 blue flame>no spell scaling and won't be added >damage is worse than every other rapier>spells cast from hilt do LESS range than staffs>the speed from sword spells isn't affected by the sword>outright objectively the worst staff in the game>the worst rapier in the game>can't change weapon art>overall less sorceries added to the dlc compared to incants CAN YOU FUCKING IMAGINE BEING SO KEKED >carians have all shown themselves to only be interested in faith builds >tanith, miquella, radagon, and messmer were all faith builds>ranni is undoubtedly a faithbuild lover tooYOU DONT EVEN GET TO HAVE RANNI OR SELLN HOLY FUCKING SHIT
>>484625012Anon, those videos are made by turbo autists who practiced the shit out of each and every boss pattern to discern the optimal response, of course it's possible, it's just that an average player won't bother turning on cheat engine invincibility and spending three hours experimenting to find all the wacky dodge strategies and viable openings for the bosses
>it's very possible Ansbach's bow will survive all the nerfs OR works as intended
Everything involving Frenzy is kino.
>>484625341There is nothing wrong with the bow
>>484625206I was using them just fine without it before even without the glitch. But I also put Scholar's shield on mine so that might help.
>>484625338Good fuck int I hope they take more
>>484625195that is such a shit comparison attempt it is unrealwere you intentionally trying to make yourself look like an absolute moron?because it worked>>484625224youre just proving that you are of the tourist newfag mindset where you pretend as if bosses arent part of the gameplay and are just something to bypass to move on
Love invading at Cerulean Coast and murdering the cowardly host while he watches hi =s buddies fight the dragon
>>484625346Even their failed lords are kino.
Perfumes unironically don't need rolling sparks to function well in pvp. The r1 chain is insanely powerful all by itself. The feint is actually good. Offhand perfumes will become popular at some point.
>>484624406more like they accidentally made an interesting mechanic then erased it wasting it completely. reward for using guard frames meant they gave guard poking a full moveset rather than L1+R1 spam. the full stamina negation was too much, that ill agree on, but dont cut it out altogether, now theres no benefit to guard frames at all. give it a stamina % reduction after guard boost or something, like they did to greatshield talisman and barricade shield on their nerfs.
>>484625246yeah i know you can maybe get half an r1 in if a boss isn't doing a combo that moves it away from you before immediately starting another onethat's still bad design
I thought abotu this today and somehow thought for a second that a billion other people hadn't already thought of the punOh well
>>484624819Shitters aren't gonna like this but at some point it's just an IQ filter. I watched some streamers struggling with the bosses and some webms here and they all do the same shit. Asmongold fought Messmer for 4 hours with an OP build and even after all that time he was literally doing nothing but panic rolling/panic healing, like it doesn't cross his mind he should be trying learn the bosses moveset instead of relying on reflex after four fucking hours of attempts. And I keep seeing people who complain Radahn is too hard keep trying to roll away from his attacks instead of rolling towards him and staying in close quarters, if you can't figure out you're gonna die if you keep trying to roll away and heal or get far away from his combos instead of dodging them after a couple of phase 2 attempts, you're literally too retarded for the game, and you should just hide behind a greatshield or summon (and not beat the game)
>>484625341the only people who complain about the bow being overpowered are those that cheat in consumables
>>484625413what talismans do you use with them?
>>484625430Failed or no, if that thing got out of the Manse the world would be fucked.In general, Tarnished did a lot of good work in this DLC. Midra and Bayle are both world enders.
I'm still installing the update. Give it to me straight, /erg/; did they murder the Smithscript weapons? Should I even continue to bother recreating this character?
>>484625437>yeah i know you can maybe get half an r1 inyeah like I said you can just say you're bad at the gamethe fact that you unironically write dumbass shit like this proves that you dont understand any of the bosses because they are full of openings
>>484623397How bad is that for a nerf? I plan on going 35str 80arc for my character. Would it still be any good? I'm sorry for the dumb questions I'm new to arc builds in general
>>484625421>that is such a shit comparison attempt it is unrealwere you intentionally trying to make yourself look like an absolute moron?because it workedretard doesn't understand the concept of an analogystupid dumb bitch
>>484623973they nerfed everything even fucking dueling shieldswhy nerf all the fucking smithing weapons as well?
>the realisation that you spent dozens of hours on a hyper focused build only for some retard on the other side of the planet to suddenly decide it doesn't work as intendedI have lost all motivation to play.
>>484625462>and staying in close quarterswhat if I'm playing a caster?
>>484625341I don’t care about the bow. I’m tired of ranged sleep being easily abuseable CE garbage
>>484625186Not if you have a decent medium shield and aren't too low health. You can eat a meteor, block all his after-image bullshit, and live as long as you properly roll the final AoE.
>>484625484It's not really overpowered per se, it's just the only bow competitive with melee ashes of war. You don't need to cheat given how easy it is to craft lightingbone arrows or buy serpentbone ones.
>>484625338Where'd this >carians only like faith buildsMeme even come from? That's just not true. Why else would they give int swords to their spouses if they didn't like intchads?
>>484624332Hex was fun as shittake a weapon that does dark damage, infuse the weapon with dark, and then buff the weapon with dark weapon
>>484625575I think it'll still be quite strong with that kind of build, and there's a bunch of other weapons in the dlc good for strength/arc anyway
shan't engage with obvious bait
>>484622134>parrying RadahnI can't parried what I kill. I actually don't really use a shield. Only had a party shield because a friend told me how he dealt with them. I use my Katana and Staff but I'll learn to parry Radahn in NG+4 just for your praise alone.
https://en.bandainamcoent.eu/elden-ring/news/elden-ring-patch-notes-version-1123>Fixed a bug that caused the Rolling Sparks Skill to deal more damage than expected.>Fixed a bug that caused the Lightning Perfume Bottle and Frenzyflame Perfume Bottle weapons to deal double damage under certain circumstances.>Fixed a bug where the Arcane scaling of the Bloodfiend's Arm weapon was higher than intended when setting an affinity. The status buildup of the heavy attack was also reduced.OH NO NO NO NO SISTERS HOW DO WE BEAT RADAHN NOW???
>>484625548Smithscript weapons were never good to begin with. They were only decent when made as an elemental infusion like flameart and sacred.Now they're gonna be shit again.
Is there an inventory editor mod? I fucked up some stuff with cheat engine and need to fix it
So, they fixed Rolling Sparks and Thrusting Shields, but did they fix impenetrable thorns?
>>484617027nerfing of swift slash so I don't see anymore brainrot PvPing from retards
>>484625767get fucked cheater scum
>>484621321>thrusting shields actually WERE bugged>tiche healed enemies>golden hippo hitbox nerfed>hippo and gaius now start 1 and 2 miles away form you on refights>"other fixes"what about rain of fire or whatever
>>484625745>no Radahn nerfgenuinely shocked, I thought it was coming for sure
>>484625641>>484625484fuck crafting or status buildupit does enough damagejust farm moghwyn ledge and buy arrows for 20 runes each. 200,000 runes = 10,000 arrows
>>484625462truth, and this general is FILLED with absolute shitters at this pointelden rings popularity meant that it brought in all these newfag shitters that dont actually care about the game, they just want to be able to say "yeah i beat elden ring bro"and like you said they're all the same, they never try to learn the bosses moves, they never try different dodge directions/timings/using jumps/strafes etc, they will continue panic rolling and panic chugging and crying about being punished for using estus when it isnt safeand then because they cant accept that they are shit and refuse to improve at the game they just go "yeah the games broken", "yeah the games unfair", "yeah the games badly designed" because their fragile egos wont allow them to admit that they are the problemi hope from make the next game even harder so these newfags wont buy it
>>484625776no
>>484625816It's meant to only hit for 20's anon.
>>484625548You're only going to feel a difference if you used it with a FTH or INT build and their respective infusions.
>>484625849Bleed arrows are also super easy to make.
>>484625675It's a cuckoldry thing. Caria is INT and the Golden Order is FAI, and until relatively recently in the timeline Caria/Liurnia has existed in opposition to the Golden Order. Their greatest achievement is literally to be the only faction in the entire game's lore to succeed in not being conquered by the Golden Order not just once but twice. So the fact that Carian royal princesses are giving their wombs over to FAIchads but are also handing over culturally-significant swords that will just be ignored is a form of submission fetish play.
>>484625607I don't Only thing i barely used was swift slash when an invader came in with the broken Everything i use was not touchedYou should have enjoyed it more while it lasted because everyone knew it was coming
>>484625776working as intended
>>484625592>shooting yourself in the head which will always cause some form of physical damage to you as a person is totally the same as practicing to beat a video gameyou are infinitely stupidmaybe you should shoot yourself in the head
>>484625843This wasn't a nerf patch. This was bug fixes.Though indirectly they fucking ruined Smithscript weapons despite them being shit anyway.Still didnt fix the chainsaw that's been in the game for fucking ages
>>484625816if founding rain of stars is still this bad after 2 years rain of fire is never getting buffed
>>484625510Greatshield, Pearlshield, Dragoncrest and Graven Mass Talisman (Because it IS still a caster). IMO the important ones are the Greatshield and Pearshield talismans. I was trying to make up for the loss of defense and guard boost when you infuse it with magic. It works out pretty good and as an aside you can block any magic spam and take 0 damage. I walked up to a mage spam and he was both so confused and just unable to do anything about it until I wacked him with it.
>>484625843oh it's coming, it'll just take longer
>>484625745guess us shitters will just have to join the greatshield antspur crowd until they nerf that too
>>484625973The thing I hate most about Elden Ring is you get a lot of these spells and items that exist only to be lore dumps and are actually mediocre as fuck in gameplay.>Here's the spell that caused the WORLD-CHANGING EVENT THAT ENABLED GLINTSTONE SORCERY FOR THE REST OF THE TIMELINE>It's a weird little drizzle that does dogshit damage and barely scratches poise XD
>>484625964I’m convinced they don’t know how to fix it and just gave up
>>484625436>waaaaaaah my exploit wasn't an exploit because i say so it doesn't matter that it was removed it wasn't an exploit nuh uh waaaaaaaaaaaaaaah
>>484625617Then it's up to you how you adapt to the challenge. Use a short range spell like carian slicer, use the new talisman that shortens casting times by a ton, etc
>all these faggots crying about their exploit being fixedits carian retaliation glitchers all over again
>Smithscripts patchedRIP my build. Time to start over.
>>484622126pls respond
When the DLC dropped there was a patch. Did the patch add/change anything in the base game? Like some NPC questlines or content changes?
>>484621989tiny nerf that you won't notice for all intents
Why yes I do use cheats to make Deflecting Hardtear a permanent buff.
>>484626182samejust changed and started with elemental infused smithscript axe+shield
Radahn/Malenia art on a rise
>Want to use carian sorcery weapon arts>have to wear rogier's silly suitI dont like this meme.
>invade a host and his summon>summon instantly pulls out swift slash>he start to panic when it can't roll catch anymore and switches to perfume
Good news, the greatsword is still great :)
>>484626309>oh fuck>wait a second..>OH SHIT
>>484625915Shouldn't you be posting on r9k or one of those other schizo containment boards?
>>484626309I love invasions right after a patch.
>Have to die 5 times for Shit TRANNY questlineI am so sick of garbage ass From quests.
>>484626309I wonder how good the swift slash now. Still sounds like a good way of dealing with fast rollers or finishing people off.
>>484625341it's not op at all
>>484625462Sounds like cope. Boss is bad, simple as.
I wasn't sure until I got past Rellana, but this DLC is some primo video game. I feel like I'm having an out of body experience in some of these dungeons
Create a new character and clear the chapel of anticipation, that character's save will get corrupted when it tries to load into the stranded graveyardI doubt they will fix this within the next 6 months so everyone is locked to their existing characters for the next half year
Fire knight great sword nerfed by about 15% per swingglad I finished the game before that stupid fucking nerfFinally a fantastic colossal weapon and they destroy it
>>484625617melee spells
>>484626309kino
>>484626460He's not wrong though, Caria is the most cucked faction of the entire game, especially now the dlc came out and basically just told us to our face that their moon worship is all bullshit because le GW is the One True God[TM]I still dont know why you'd build a setting with a varied and uncertain cosmology and then look your players in the face and say "by the way every religion except one is wrong :)" Expectations status: subverted I guess
>>484625973as i told you yesterday it actually does vaguely reasonable damage while rain of fire does not
>>484626085mechanically, it wasnt an exploit, it was something in monhunt for a long time. designwise, i dont think they even considered having benefits to guard framing. im irritated they they accidentally recreated it then backed out.
>>484626540>Fire knight great sword nerfed by about 15% per swingseriously? fucking hell, I hate from
>>484626518done a catacomb yet? there are less dungeons this time around but they are much more involved than the base game
>>484626580>trusting Ymir
>>484626520is this real?
>>484621321>nerfed smithscript daggers that literally no one was using because they sucked even with the "extra" scaling they weren't supposed to havegreat, cool fromsoft. why even put the weapon in the game in the first place?
>>484626493it's 6 times
>>484626580GW is not the one true god. Ymir's schizo ramblings and Hyetta's frenzy cope aren't legit
>>484626540I just respected into faith for my next play though and fully upgraded it
>>484626703you can try it yourself
>>484626580Greater Will is the highest order deity because he's the primordial void everything came out of. This doesn't sabotage the legitimacy of the Moon. If anything, the fact GW stopped answering Fingers makes all lesser deities more legit than Fingers.
>>484626692>>484626793"That doesnt count" is nuclear cope and you can headcanon anything if you decide to just ignore two different questlines lmao
>>484626580>there is a highest deity which means all other deities don't countAbrahamic brainrot
>patch day drops>all the losers who were needing to abuse exploits to succeed are cryingAh.A fine vintage.
>>484624110yeah, i figure she was meant to be the end boss of the lake of rot, but she wasn't complete at the time. they shoehorned astel into it and connected it to ranni.
>people don’t savescum tears/smithing and starlight shards so they can do whatever they want at anytimeWhat are you guys doing
>patch drops>the game stops workingvery epic, thank you miyazaki
>>484626897personally i'm happy i can use perfume bottles without unintentionally doing 4 trillion damage
>>484625850It's not just newfags it's oldfag "souls vets" too who think the game is pushing them into using summons when it really doesn't at all. I actually felt way more pushed into using summons in the old souls games because of the boss walk backs, I think a much more challenging boss I can try again immediately after dying gives you much less incentive to skip it than having to walk for 5 minutes back to the boss arena doesThere is nothing wrong with finding the game too hard to beat, or just harder than you have the patience for, but thinking that's an actual criticism of the game or that it makes it poorly designed is completely retarded. Especially when the game has an easy mode that exists to make it accessible to those people >and this general is FILLED with absolute shitters at this pointIt's now an emotional support group for people to tell eachother they're not bad Radahn is just heckin poorly designed and their mimic + great shield run is totally valid lol. This hysteria existed on launch with Malenia too and it's again mostly drowned out by people who love the game anyway, I am glad they include the shitter options like ashes so casuals can beat it and enjoy it and the crying about difficulty doesn't get loud enough for Fromsoft to listen to
>>484626283what the fuck is this text
anyone else getting inappropiate activity detected
>>484626850I’m not ignoring the quest line, the fact i did it is what makes me believe ymir is full of shit
>>484626897I sure love nerfing all the garbage weapons at the same time.
>>484626850No, the characters speaking the lines matter. Because their perspectives inform how they themselves interpret things.For example you really think Miquella has no fault due to his mother's mistakes?
>>484626990i think it's chink original language given the artstyle and the right to left bubbles
>>484626980radahn is bad though
i think the issue with using the unreliable narrator defense in ER is just about all the npcs are unreliable narrator-tierseriously if you wouldnt trust some religious rando sperging out to you about their god IRL why would you do it ingame, 90% of the npcs are basically jehovahs witnesses
I just thought of a funny line but dont have an image for it, someone please post a horny-themed picture with Messmer
>>484626980Yes true combos and moves that can't be dodged with mid rolls are good for the game.Casters should also be fucked and just infuse a sword because creating distance from the boss is bad
>>484626897nerfing the shittier smithscript weapons is completely uncalled for
>>484626980Yeah I remember the ridiculous amount of cope with malenia when the original game dropped here.Everything you said is basically how it is and the people this applies to will never accept it since it inadvertently means them accepting that they are bad and these games aren't meant for them.They'll just screech at the walls about how bad the game is etc etc.They'll leave before long anyway since they're tourists who don't actually care for the game.
>>484626690I have to go back and try to kill that guy at the beginning of the DLC again. He was filtering me. I like the Gaols and how they made them their own kinda template thing. I always loved a good gaol, like Irithyll Dungeon. Holy shit. Talk about cozy
>>484625915>>484626460>>484626580>>484626887He's right. Also the main point is that, every carian seen has shown interest in someome that's a faith build. Messmer and tanith are dex/faithMiquella is pure faithRadagon is int/faith It's only logical, if ranni was actually into the tarnished, she'd be into some sort of faithbuild too. Once is an accident, twice is a coincidence, three or more times is a pattern. Then there's sellen, but she's explicitly anti-carian so even if you like her best you'd be betraying the very core of your carian characters theme.
They need to go back to DS3 boss design. It's embarrassing that there was only one (1) boss in this entire DLC that I didn't fucking hate fighting. Base game wasn't any better either.
>>484627082>Miquella >FaultNo such thing.
>>484627189>someone please post a horny-themed picture with MessmerNot until you tell me what you're going to use it for
Is everyone powerleveling now? not getting any summons at 160 anywhere...
what's a good miquella follower fashioni want somethin kinda golden i think, caster more than big armor
>>484626980Malenia is a terrible boss and Waterfowl Dance is a dogshit designed move, that will never change.
>>484627234Nah, you just want to cuckpost like a faggot
>>484627297games broken after the patch, nobody can connect to each other
>Swift Slash fags on suicide watchkek
>>484627236>im bad at the game tier list
>>484627274I'm just gonna reply with a joke, what I use it for after that point is between me and 7000 snakes
I was debating respecing to kill bayle with the lightning perfume, but I guess I have to stop being a bitch and kill him normally instead
>>484626897>patch drops>popular and strong options are nerfed to total uselessnessepictruly fantastic game design
>>484627406I killed all of these bosses besides Radahn in under 5 tries without summons. They are shit and so are you, Fromdrone.
>>484627236Gaius was really fun with deflecting tear. Felt like a Sekiro boss.
>That rolling spark damage after bug fixlol
Canonically every Liurnian woman is a "I can't fix her, but I can make her worse" basketcase. Why? Is it the climate? It can't just be religious since Sellen isn't a moon-worshipping Carian.
>>484627479>by the way by popular and strong I meant the flavor of the month exploitsLmao at the absolute state of you.
>>484627335Malenia is fine a boss but you should never have to fucking go outside a game to find how the game fucking tracks you during a move
>>484627439DragonHunter great Katana WA is the anti-Bayle weapon btw
What are the other perfume aows like now that there's a reason to try them out
>>484627297Connection is broken right now. 160-200 is ULTRA popular. During prime time i was literally invading every time i used a finger yesterday at 200.
Once the charm gets broken everyone keeps saying 'Miquella the Kind' in these seething tones. Not a nice guy I think. Kinda like the kid with magic powers in that Twilight Zone episode and everyone has to tiptoe around him and play lovey dovey or else
>>484627514that's the intended amount too. lol.
>>484627496>im now lying through my teeth without a shred of evidence because my tier list proved that I am bad at the game and got filteredlol, post your gameplay or consneed forever
>>484626980It's not that it's unbeatable or anything, it's that:1. The visual noise in Radahn phase 2 is terrible.2. Radahn is a mostly non-interactive fight, you cannot do anything to him except deal damage and posture damage; compare to Malenia who can be run away from, knocked down, or have her attacks interrupted by yours.3. Only a certain small percentage of attacks are allowed against Radahn while also attempting to roll: things that take less than 1 second, and occasionally things that take up to 2 seconds. This is terribly unfun.Unlike a lot of people, I don't find certain boss attacks wanting you to use a defensive skill or item a flaw, those are in the game for a reason.
>>484627439Your dragon hunter katana?
>>484627342Prove anything i said wrong. Go ahead
>>484627536fire knight sword was an exploit?turkey leg was an exploit?smithscript weapons were exploits?I'm fine with tuning down but making them near useless is dumb
>>484624589>>484624670FROM was never good at modeling unique faces for characters.The only decent one before this DLC was Ranni's face, which is a pretty nice sculpt and Radagon.Now, we've got Messmer but that's about it
Oh god, smithscript dagger actually has range now, amazing.
>>484627424Since you asked politely you can have this one(1) photo I took of my husband
>>484627479Military grade copiumEverybody knows "le fun!" stuff is the most broken shit like sparks, slash or duelling shieldsYou aren't fooling anyone redditor lmao
>>484627563there's only 2, one that does a big 360 aoe and one that goes forward
>>484626636>it wasn't an exploit because it's an intended feature of a completely different game
>>484627519moonstruck
>>484627652>engage with my NTR shitpostingNah. You're wrong tho.
>>484619805>abuse bugged stuff>don't get use to that it's clearly bugged>bugged stuff gets patched>NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO FUCK YOU FROMSOFT WHY DO YOU HATE FUN
>>484627514They always panic nerf something to uselessness after DLC release. It was the same with paired knight ugs in Ringed City.
>>484627639While you were stuck on Dancing Lion for an hour, I one shot him with bleed. Cope, tranny.
>>484627654>fire knight sword was an exploit?yes that is why they fixed it>turkey leg was an exploit?yes that is why they fixed it>smithscript weapons were exploits?yes that is why they fixed it
>>484627160The issue with the unreliable narrorator defense is that everyone's unreliable. It just leads to nothing being true and you making up your headcanon based on an npcs delusions and arguing it takes precedent over someome else's headcanon based on npc delusions
>>484627654fire knight sword had truecombos in pvp which is not intended, and chicken leg bleeding most things in ONE (1) charged r2 was also obviously unintended
>>484627672They don't call him the Impaler for nothingThat's the best I got I didn't think about how to actually make it work, this post is garbage sorry
>>484627236they need to stop pretending these games are action games and go back to dark souls 1/2 when all the mechanics were incomprehensible, leveling half the stats did nothing and bosses gear checked you and made you run a 3 minute gauntlet back when you failed it
>>484627643You should not have to change to a fucking weapon that can equip ashes to dodge a move You should not need to dump strength to use a shield You should not have to change your buildIf you want a player to fucking use tools to beat a boss then make them a fucking universal mechanic you fucking nigger
>nerfed all the perfume bottles and other exploits>Impenetrable Thorns untouchedas an INT player this was the only thing that got me through Radahn.
>>484627803deflect with a weapon if you don't want to do any of those
>>484627770>turkey legChicken drum* and it's not "fixed", they just nerfed the blood scaling.
I guess I can make a Sakuya build now.
>>484627768>i got filtered by the very first boss hence my tier list showing how bad i amlol
>>484627439Bro, your Igon? Your Dragon-hunter's Great Katana?
>>484627776they reduced it's scaling and damage the true combo was clearly never intended
>>484627839thorns is an arc spell with a fth req though?
>>484627745I accept your concession. Im sure they'll add spell scaling to your dollar store blue flame next patch.
>>484627803There are already Radahn naked runsSkill issue
>>484619094It's over.
>guarding is fucking buggedFFS FROMSOFT!
Fromcucks will tell you with a straight face that fun is only when you beat the boss RL1 barefisted no armor no horse no consumables.
>>484627861>Projection
>>484627714thats what i said. you need to present your side of the argument if you intend to continue with whatever point you are making.
>>484627803also "dump" does not mean "add points to" you fucking brainlet. your dump stat is the one you leave at base level.
>>484627784It's ok and you're not wrong
reply to this post if you have connected to someone without being kicked out for inappropriate activity
>>484627848not a base part of your toolset you fucking nigger and is a fucking optional tear.If they want to make a fucking action game then fucking follow the rules of an action game
>>484627943>"no u"lol
>>484627784You tried and that's what matters.
>>484626980Consort Radahn is fucking terrible, though, especially compared to Malenia
>>484627936Literally no one says this except summonshitters who can't cope with the fact that they're using a deliberate handicap.
>>484627236Non shitter list
>>484627894true wizardry also puts points into learning the ways of the arcane and some faith in your enlightened knowledge and academia.Plus with all three stats it makes the finger staff scale incredibly.
>>484627554>>484627646>>484627865maybe I'll try it. I usually just play straight sword and medium shield.
>>484627950I'm merely pointing out the ridiculousness of your statement. This is not something that needs debating.
>>484627693Thanks What's the aoe called?
>>484627990it's the first furnace golem you see, cope harder
>>484627582when people aren't charmed, it seems like people just fear him, likely because they know of his power he wields.
>>484627976Wait that was an official marketing line? I thought it was a joke the community made up because hurr durr boss is hard.
>>484628045Worst bait on this website
>>484628018This. It's just another strawman used by the shitters that have to rely on summons to kill the boss for them or by using the heaviest cheese build they could find on youtube.It's just self soothing.
Dueling shields are still overpowered to hell and back. Minimal loss on guard against smaller weapons, can still hold a block against one or even TWO ugs swings at 24 END, you just cannot trade indefinitely against 3 bodies swinging at you at once.Literally poked a katana dude to death.That's without a shield grease.And still has one of the best movesets in the game. If they won't change it further, it cements the weapon as one of the absolute top tiers.
>>484628045>Radahn in great>Putrescent Knight in poor>Leda anywhere below KinoShit list, kill yourself
I wish people would stop calling it the chicken leg because it's literally a pig on a stick, aka a pigstick.
uhhh
>>484628079wall of sparks, it's in the castle on the way to rauh ruins on the balcony overlooking the pot hposital
Why does everything need a cuck allegory shut the fuck up
>>484627659Pic related is objectively the most beautiful character From has ever designed.
>>48461701811/10 fellow purebloodwhat is that bow?? did we get the REAL albinauric bow? or close enough by the look of that>mfw its a voting day today but all the political parties are the same thing sucking each other off and working against the public while insisting they need unlimited immigration because they just do ok replacement migration is a conspiracy though/end of rant
The modern From fan is on the same level of fucking pokemon and bethedsa fans where there can be no wrong or criticism
>>484628056If you're using a shield you can just let Igon do his thing and poke Bayle while occasionally blocking and guard countering him.
>>484627930Alright, just had to do a restart. That was weird.
>>484628106https://x.com/BandaiNamcoUS/status/1780010945508417674Imagine
>>484628141die or rest and it'll drop the item again
>>484627896Didn't concede. You're wrong about your fetish posting. Cope cuckfag
>>484628152Anon you're being wowed by effects and makeupthe face sculpt is average as hell
>>484628018Never mentioned summons, retard. Only taking a dig at faggots saying “fun = exploits”, when the bosses and enemies are already overturned af but god forbid the player have any semblance of an advantage.
>>484628045Yeah this is much better, unironically. I'd move bayle up to top tier too though.Shitters will seethe at this list though since they got hard filtered and mindbroken by a bunch of the high ranked bosses.
>>484628152Not even the prettiest character in his own game
>>484628156Remember anon, if you want to give a middle finger to the system, spoil your ballot. No one notices an absent voter but the polling officials will notice a ballot with a cock drawn on it.
>>484628141It's just a glovewort, you can ignore it.If you really want it, kill yourself and respawn at the stake.
>>484627976>treat yourself to 18 inches of messmer the impalerlol no way this is accidental after finger maidens, touch grace, marikas tits, and cum touch the withered arm
>>484628212He looks like a literal angel bro.
>>484628045>radahn>great
>>484628152Wrong. Pic related is objectively the most beautiful character From has ever designed
they nerfed rolling sparkswtf do i use now
>>484628226>bosses and enemies are already overtuned afDING DING DING DINGSHITTER COPE TERMINOLOGY DETECTEDImagine self reporting as a verified shitter.
>>484628173Lol that's great. The real crime is that Marika banishing him deprive some od the good people of Leyndell a good dicking.
>more than 2 years since release>bleed still not guttedFROM is such a shit company
>>484628146Very appreciated anonYou're the man
Nanaya's torch is still top tier broken bullshitNobody would even care about deathblight buildup if it didn't TRIGGER MADNESS IN ONE HIT AT RANGE WITH NO AIMING, NO DODGING POSSIBLE
what's a good spot to go if I want to test some damage numbers on some big health monster without weird resistances?
>>484628254im not sure that will achieve anything unless everyone else does the same thing (they wont)and im also not 100% they wont arrest me for it cause this place is a fucking hellscape at least when it comes to cops.
>>484628328That's fanart though
>>484628336Play something else now, that's what I do usually
>>484628045Messmer isn't interesting for me, one of those "haha I caught you in a habit you developed over the last 200 hours of being taught to play that way" bosses
>>484628226>the bosses and enemies are already overturned But they're not?
Can we just kill all faggots and fujoshis? They make up like 10% of the playerbase but are so fucking loud it's insane.
>Say a boss is poorly designed>Ummm you're just a shitterIs this the only defense these "people" have?
have you guys considered that doing less upfront damage in return for big bursts of damage later is intended and the lower damage bleed/cold weapons do is part of that balancing process
>>484628425Fujos and yumes own this general
>mfw exploit/overtuned weapons abusers crying that from fixed unintentional interactions/stats and how it totally was intentional how they were working hence why from patched it to change it
>>484628336Your brain
>>484626980Even challenge runners who made a career out of sucking From's cock were saying Radahn is not a fun bossfight.
>>484628390most normal spots used are>gatefront first enemy (can't test multi hits since he dies in 1 hit)>secluded cell giant + 2 knights>moghwn ledge>subterrean shunning ground omenstill have resists though
>>484628159at least they can make gamesbeth are a sort of meme studio where we forgive them for the bugs and jank but expect great things from the story and modding tools. (people should stop expecting modders to do their job for them however)and I haven't played a pokemon game since emerald.
>>484628045Low effort bait, try harder next time baddie.
>>484628468i dont consider things
>>484628525surely you wouldn't mind posting evidence of these spurious claims
>>484628364frost is betterrot can be better depending on what you're fighting
>>484628390the troll by the church where you get the physick, the ones in limgrave have 0 dmg negation to everything except slash which is -20 i think
>>484628392Oh well better than sorry then. It's something I'm planning to do if I vote this year. And I know it won't accomplish anything, but it's more just for my own satisfaction. If that makes sense.
>>484628425idk can you or did you need them to break the enigma code and stop ww2? maybe life isn't about what you're mad at.addendum: >>484628563 * I haven't played an OFFICIAL pokemon game since emerald. I forgot prism, mmos and other romhacks.
>>484628663also wrong because midra is one of the best bosses from has ever made
>>484628132You mean it's "overpowered" against brainless retards.
>>484628507NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO FROMSOFT MEANT FOR THE FIRE KNIGHT GREATSWORD TO KILL PEOPLE IN ONE TRUE COMBO NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
Blood Infused +25 70 ARC Bloodfiend's Blood Arm has gone from>220 Bleed buildupto>202 Bleed buildupBasically inconsequential if you're powerstancing, but a big hit if you were using the bugged R2
It's so funny being around since DeS and seeing "git gud" types moan about not fighting the computer honourably.Fucking everyone who played DeS at launch was using every trick they had vs the bosses and the game actively encouraged it.Now using the ashes of war, a literal button on the controller, is apparently too much for some people
>>484628425This place died when they started welcoming writeniggers and tumblrtrannies in, it's a shame because there's nowhere else to really discuss elden ring that isnt leddit or a pisscord. It wasnt as bad for the first weeks after dlc release because normal posters could suppress the troon spam with marika art but now the dedicated attentionwhores are backIf you stick around long enough you'll start seeing them linking their fanfictranny accounts and tumblrs
>>484628664all it'll do is annoy the poll workers who are all huge fucking nerds
>>484628045>mfw the bads are responding to this calling it bait because they suck so much they can't engage with and enjoy the fights with these bosseslist is mostly the same for me
>>4846285634th gen is great. I've heard good things about 5th too but never played it. Anything after that though is basically not worth playing.
>>484628706Yes, so 90% of the playerbase. It's almost Enisle styled DS2 turtling still.
>>484627672If he a snake man why'd you draw him with a bird beak lol
Light Greatswords are still very high despite having exactly 3 weapons in the game. They are very sexy tho.
>>484628336see >>484628512dumbass
>>484628757you gotta be like 40 years old
>Radahn's stamina damage against shields unchangedI see that blocking is indeed an INTENTED way to beat the game.
>>484628757you don't get to talk about balance mister scraping spear I know what you did lol
>>484628757people hadn't been playing souls games for 15 years then
>>484628735the bleed buildup on char screen meant nothingits capable of inflicting one hit status effects because of the extra hitboxes on the R2 blood splashes. I have no idea how those worked or whether they were nerfed, but its clearly responsible for the status procsyou could trigger ANY status proc with bloodfiend arm in one hit, not just bleedfrost bloodfield arm = 1 hit chillpoison bloodfiend arm = 1 hit poison
Fuck me I just wanted to explore the rest of the storehouseNo I won't look up how to get there
>>484617027nerfing the RoB once more
>>484628760That's how /dsg/ turned into a gay ERP discord, no?
>>484628127>>484628572It's not bait >>484628135I loved Radahn I'm sorry you're shit at the game. I didn't summon for Leda so it was a nightmare and putrescent knight sucks my cock I hate all mounted bosses You think Radahn is bad because other people seething and rationalizing why he's too hard lets you justify your shittery, and now you're telling me to kill myself for having fun playing a video you're too bad at to enjoy >>484628290Indeed. I don't like him from a story/lore perspective so he's only in A, he has a couple of annoying attacks in phase 2 but that doesn't change how fun the rest of his moveset is or make him anything less than a great boss >>484628663>Gail is better than Messmer and Midra Nice one
>>484628726NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO ROLLING SPARKS WAS OBVIOUSLY SUPPOSED TO DO OVER 10000 DAMAGE BECAUSE THE BOSSES ARE OVERTUNED AND THIS WAS FROMS WAY OF BALANCING IT
>>484628832you are using barricade right?
>>484628427See >>484625462
>>484628815Fucking forgot the link.https://strawpoll.com/eJnvV75rWnvhttps://strawpoll.com/eJnvV75rWnvhttps://strawpoll.com/eJnvV75rWnv
>>484628836Yes but that's not a change in the games, it's just a change in the internet community around them.
>>484628815That's because they have the best moveset Fromsoft has ever createdBut you niggas really need to play Wo Long, it has a Longsword DLC type which is basically light greatswords, only even cooler and with 6 different WAs at once including a sick boomerang throw.
>>484628842Yeah, it means that the R2 got fixed but using it for quick powerstanced bleeds with jump l1 is unchanged.
>>484628872>i didn't engage in the npc mechanic for the npc battle royale fight so it was a nightmarewhat is wrong with you
>>484628865dsg never had writefags on the scale erg does
>>484628059whats so ridiculous about being mad they scrapped an entire mechanic they accidentally created that another popular company sells its games on? >>484628132its still good but lost alot of its freedom in builds with the nerf. the final stretch of bosses demand higher reduction or get fucked. barricade or scholar's, and im leaning towards scolars cause you are pretty hard pressed for a window to recast scholar's
>>484628207The only one coping is you. Stay mad.
>>484628872You put bosses with broken hit boxes and undodgeable attacks in your top two tiers, yes this is obvious bait, nigger.Here's that (You) that (You) wanted so badly.
>>484628764Eh, you have a point.
>>484628928uh no? it's also a change in the design of the games to continue to challenge the playerbase
>>484628525Feeble King had the same meltdown over the base game then changed his mind after getting good, same shit will happen again it does every time with these games
>>484628815>sample size of 55come on man
>>484628769>if you didn't like the boss you're just badYou should have everything in S tier then you gigantic shitter
Considering this was an emergency patch that only exists to stop people from cheesing bosses with rolling sparks and spamming swift slash and that fire sword true combo in PvP, what will the REAL patch look like when it drops?
>>484628735>It's just a great bleed weapon instead of a broken bleed weaponpeople will shit their pants over this nerf btw
>>484628842It just acts like a second hit.It triggers any status because the Colossal has very high buildup to begin with.It's still there too, just toned down.Honestly with the literal blood splash effect I don't know why people are surprised that it's meant to make it easier to bleed stuff.
>>484618665plus one to this, these bosses should deal way less damage and have way more health, on the run where I ended up killing Radahn I still had my fucking flash buff on that lasts 2 minutesEnemy attacks are completely nonsensical and there's random aoes on attacks where it doesn't make sense, and it's not just Radahn's lightshower - why does the dancing lion raising it's head after slamming it into the ground have an aoe blast that chunks me for 30% of my health on NG? What the fuck is the point of making the player deal banoonoo damage while also dying in two hits with fully kitted out defenses?Also why the fuck did Steam remove the ability to open the folder with your screenshots? This is so fucking stupid
>>484617027>added missing recipe: Rainbow Fletched Arrows>nerfs:>buffs: we over did it with stars of ruin so its back to day 1 tracking like star shower and INT is viable again
>>484628949>whats so ridiculous about being mad they scrapped an entire mechanic they accidentally created that another popular company sells its games on?Then fuck off and play THAT game you insufferable tranny.
Are they unaware of Impenetrable Thorns? Makes no sense them nerfing the other things but leaving one of the offenders alone
>>484628974>You put bosses with broken hit boxes and undodgeable attacks in your top two tiers, yes this is obvious bait, nigger.Care to provide some examples so you may be BTFO?
>>484628939It was pretty retarded I admit, I had just committed to no summons by that point. I'll do it properly if I do another playthrough >>484628974>undodgeable attackslol
>>484629127Radahn and Gaius have missing hitboxes during some attacks which make them completely invincible during the duration.
>>484628949okay but thats a different game not elden ring
>>484628735>>484628842>>484628934Would it still be good at 40str 80arc
>>484629157isn't that intended
>>484616910Has anyone here brought the Collector's Edition? Is the Messmer figurine build quality good? Is the fanbook worth it or is it just a magazine-like pamphlet?
>>484629009This tread have like 40 posters at best.>>484628930>That's because they have the best moveset Fromsoft has ever createdTrue true.
>get summoned to fight late game dlc boss>check status page>8 blessings>host using fingerprint shieldI’m gonna lose it
>>484629157>Radahn and Gaius have missing hitboxes during some attacks which make them completely invincible during the duration.And what is your source for this being unintentional?
>>484629028Carian Sovereignty is definitely getting nerfed.
>>484628735R2 is reportedly still 1-2 hitting the procs
>>484629240no way, it costs 45 fuckin fp and isn't any stronger than waves of darkness
Okay, hear me out: scadutree avatar nuke DOESN'T kill you from full health at 60 vig and 75% absorption, so if you fail one roll you don't have to redo the entire fight.
Why are NPCs allowed to be parry gods anyway?
>>484628815>r1 spam weapon comes topwow, you guys stopped adapting huh
>>484629225Why the fuck would they intentionally make the boss completely invincible during any stage of the fight?
>>484629284do you not have 12 fth to cast divine fortification or something?
>>484629219I got summoned into like the putresent boss fight with like someone using the fingerprint shield and he kept getting mad and walking back in the fog wall like he was confused why were weren't following, we kept pointing forward and even got invaded and be never got it sonwe ended up finger severing
>>484628424They are if you’re not blind
>>484629087thats not an argument either. you are essentially telling me to go way because you cannot refute nor present a counterargument. surely you can try better than >quoted text + mocking image?I eagerly await any argument you may have. at least one.
>>484629284You vill be oneshot and You vill be happy.
>>484628950Nah. Cope cuck.
>>484629225This invincibility triggers the moment the attack starts but before any visual indication such as the light show. It's either unintentional or incredibly badly designed, and I'm giving Fromsoft the benefit of the doubt.
>>484629284I had like 15 skibidis and I just tanked the explosions and lunged at its face
>>484629323What is divine fortification going to do if I already have 75% holy absorption and still take 2000+ damage?
>they nerfed duel shields chicken leg and fie knightNOOOOOOOOOOOOO
>>484629319Why don't you ask them?I'm not on their dev team.
>>484629127Gaius’s charge can hit twice, Messmer’s snakes have DS2 level hitboxes plus he can snap onto you. Radahn’s cross swing attack combo is literally unavoidable damage in 99.99% of cases. People hav reposted webms in previous threads. You may now cope, Fromdrone.
>>484629284my white mage who wears fucking cloth for armor hit 2400~ hp and 84% absorption last night via talismans and great rune and afaik there is still a physic tear to boost hp more I didnt get yet whats your excuse folks? why are you still crying?
>>484629116It's bleedfor some reason they always leave that shit alone until last or forget about it
>>484629000No it isn't, they got better at removing unintentional exploits but over the games they've actually given you more tools to use.People online just started deciding that using any of them was illegitimate after 'git gud' became a big meme on here and reddit
>Almost kill Gayus>he taps the host once and host is deadI fucking hate scatutree fragments and summoners who cant survive 15 seconds before biting the dust.
I had to use mimic tear on MaleniaIn fact, I think I've used it on every boss since I got it.
>>484629127Several of Gaius' attacks can actually double-hit and result in instant kills. He can do this with his back-kick and his charge.
>>484629127NTA but phase 2 Radahn has like 4 separate attacks that end in my screen being totally annihilated with white flashes that drop my framerate to 15 while I can't see shit and they fuck me for up to 80% of my health. I'm sure they're not unavoidable, but between the framerate and visual noise and the nonsensical moveset I sure as fuck couldn't figure them out.What the fuck do you do against the giant orbital laser that he usually starts phase 2 with? I tried running backwards, doesnt work, I tried running past him, doesn't work, I tried blocking, doesn't work, I tried knocking him out of the animation, only works if you're already close to breaking his stance, I tried rolling it and jumping over it, also doesn't work. So what the hell am I supposed to do? Also, if I CAN roll it, I stand absolutely no chance to get the timing right on account of the frame drops
>>484629367Nigger. You're here playing this game crying that it's not another game. Fuck off. Seriously. I'm so fucking sick and tired of subhumans like you. You like that mechanic? Cool. Fuck off and play games that have that mechanic. It wasn't an intended mechanic in THIS game, as evidenced by the fact it got removed. Don't like it? Stop playing this game and play the game you like. Fuck off.
>metashitter tears
>>484617513still undefeated undisputed
>>484629402make it so you take less than 2k damage so you don't get oneshot but instead get taken to 5% hp? what kind of dumb question is like
>>484629472>>484629000>>484628928twitter was a mistake.stop catering to them japan.
>>484629505a win's a win, frog
>>484629523You have to start running immediately as he casts it or use BHS. Unfortunately if your framerate dips too low it's nearly impossible to dodge. However, you can bait it out by running away from Radahn as he's in a neutral state, then running towards him, then murderfucking Radahn as he slowly descends.
>>484629383>He's this mad
>>484629472?????????????
>>484628872Radahn is bad because he fills the screen with particle effects, lowers your FPS, has really shitty looking attacks that leave him invulnerable to damage for over 15 seconds, haa a combo that is borderline impossible to dodge with medium roll, and doesn't even have the presentation to make up for it.>I didn't summon for LedaAh, you're a retard then
>>484629284You know you can block with your weapon, right? unlike in previous games, here that actually helps
>>484629430Are you mentally deficient
>>484629523if you run away the instant he starts T posing, you will exit the area and have time to cast 1 (one) buff. there's also a sound cue for rolling it.
>>484629434>Gaius’s charge can hit twiceLots of attacks can hit multiple times in this and other souls games.>Messmer’s snakes have DS2 level hitboxes plus he can snap onto youYou can still roll the snakes easily and so what? You want to just circle strafe the boss to death? You think you're backstab fishing in dark souls 1 again?>Radahn’s cross swing attack combo is literally unavoidable damage in 99.99% of cases.Can dodge it by positioning to his left or right constantly with just rolls. Or you could use many of the available tools such as crucible talisman for i-frames on rolls or backsteps or ashes of war or physick tears. It's not unavoidable at all and people have posted webms doing the above.You may cope now, bad.
>>484629505mimic is not optimal for malenia anyway its free healing for her
>>484629116>Are they unaware of Impenetrable Thorns?Whats wrong with them?Not any differnt than taker flame malenia with mimic tear, its the same, you need mimic tear to fully abuse pve with it
>>484629712It is in the second phase, just corner her and spit roast
>>484629636Again, nah. Again, cope cuck.
I think how they handled miquella was very transphobic
>>484628045The seethe this provoked once again affirms that this board is 80%+ shitters and retards.Only change I'd make is put Radahn in B tier due to visibility and the clonespam attacks being mega unintuitive.
>>484629319are you forgetting morgotts phase transition and his 900% defense while he's doing it? (frost bleed can still cheese this speedrunners, but its cooler if you dont)
>>484629680Are you?You're asking me why from made this decision on these bosses and I'm telling you I'm not on their dev team so not privy to their reasoning.Are you dumb? Have you convinced yourself that I am part of the dev team and just withholding information from you?
>>484618665They wanted to do something that wasn't Dark Souls 4 but it just didn't work out nearly as well. You have way more tools to use in Elden Ring but the downside is everything is way looser design wise and there is no reason to spend 2 hours trying to memorise spastic boss patterns when you can use one of your tools to defeat it. I say defeat and not "cheese" because if you read interviews by Miyazaki, using these tools is actually the intended way to play the game. The pattern memorization of previous games is definitely valid, but suboptimal and just not the priority this time around, and as a souls fan it's hard to swallow pill.
>>484629274It does ~140% more HP damage and a fuckload more posture damage than Waves of Darkness, and the burst of damage is fasterThat said, I hope it doesn't get nerfed
>>484629701>>484629624I see, the timing on that thing must be pretty tight then. Also, I'm fairly certain framedrops make the actual damage happening become disjointed from enemy attack animations visually.
>>484629829He can still be damaged tho, hes not invincible
>>484628760Cope dilate seethe L you lost ectPost better product if you sont like it
>>484629785Please be careful anon don't burst a vein seething so hard
>>484629829Godrick gets that same scripted armor when he cuts his arm off. Were there any other bosses like that in the base game?
>>484629534>go away, im mad i lost this argument, go away NOWsad...
>>484629274I just killed Maliketh in two hits with soverengty, this thing is disgusting.
>>484629829Bosses having high defense during transition periods fits and you get the feedback from hurting the boss, even if it's less than expected. It's a burst of defense during a transitional period of the fight and is a warning that (Now's not the time to attack) as the transition itself comes with an AoE and new moves that the player should be cautious for.Radahn turning invincible and eating your attack punish with no visual feedback until he starts glowing is shit design.
>>484627236best list so far but messmer should be maybe good. also i agree ds3 has the best selection of bosses in the series
>>484629831No i just think it’s the most profoundly retarded response I’ve ever received. Of course you’re not on the fucking dev team
>>484629952you could do that with ADLS already in the same amount of time
>>484629928Still not coping cuck?
>>484629172the giant katana had its moveset lifted from monhunt. we can suspect some sort of inspiration as all japs love monhunt like crack at some point in their lives.
Incredible how after all these games FromSoft can't make spears with interesting movesets
>>484618665Stuff gets way more predictable if you use jumping and guard counters. Don't roll everything.
>>484630080not an agument
>>484629812thisthe state of this board is a jokecant wait for the tourists to fuck off
>>484630059Don't need to. I'm right. Objectively.
>>484630089Stick with swords if you want interesting movesets.
>>484629946This isn't an argument. I don't have to debate you. All you're doing is>WAAAAAAAAAAAAAH I DON'T LIKE THIS GAME IT SHOULD BE ANOTHER GAME BECUASE I LIKE THAT GAME MORE WAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHYou're not making an argument. You're throwing a tempter tantrum that your garbage exploit got removed.
>>484630124it's july 4th so it's only going to get worse later today
>>484629057the steam screenshot thing is bs yeah, best I've found is copying images to clipboard from the share button but not linking to the folder itself is retarded
>>484630089they made the swiftspear have a unique moveset then only had that one fucking weapon that uses it.
>>484630080As a big Monhun fan I thought the same about many weapons, the Blacksmith hammer looks like the Juggernaut, the meteorite UGS looks like a monhun weapon too, the great katanas with the sheets as well especially
>>484628760IS THAT.... IS THAT PEOPLE POSTING MESSMER??? AAAAAAAAAIIIIIIIIEEEEEEEEEE I CANT GOON TO HIM, RYANRYEOS SAVE MEEEEEEEEEEEE
>>484629702>Lots of attacks can hit multiple times in this and other souls games.This is your argument? Because broken hitboxes exist on other bosses it’s ok? Neck yourself. I’ve literally had that charge do barely any damage to me or straight up one shot me because of the bank hit box on it.>You can still roll the snakes easily and so what? You want to just circle strafe the boss to death? You think you're backstab fishing in dark souls 1 again?If his hit box is so broken that it can hit me through my shield, yes, it’s a fucking issue, you retarded nigger. Bosses snapping onto you is also shit design and looks retarded. I should be able to strafe around a boss to avoid an attack if possible and not be punished by them instantly turning 180 degrees and hitting me.>Can dodge it by positioning to his left or right constantly with just rolls. Or you could use many of the available tools such as crucible talisman for i-frames on rolls or backsteps or ashes of war or physick tears. It's not unavoidable at all and people have posted webms doing the above.You are full of shit, you can’t even dodge it while light rolling. You can only avoid it if you have a certain talisman equipped and are light load and dodge at the literal perfect frame. It is not at all consistent and literally impossible to avoid as a medium roller.Go rope yourself, Fromtranny.
>>484626283>>484626990
>>484630117no, a refute, saying that his point has a flaw as there the aforementioned other game has already impacted elden ring in another avenue.
What's the best circus clown build
>>484630317*than
>>484630127Nah. You're just a cuck.
>>484630223It's really interesting how he points out that somehow lewdposting with rule34 of marika and ranni is somehow better
>>484630379Anything dex and int
>>484630387Ah fuck, luckily I still have photoshop open so I can rectify this mishap. I blame the brandy.
>>484630379dancer blade and the fire spit item could work. putrescent knight's weapon is a big sell too, voldo looking mf
>>484630295Second time I've seen someone in this thread tell someone to kill themselves for enjoying the bosses. What makes shitters so insecure and angry?
>>484630295>This is your argument? Because broken hitboxes exist on other bosses it’s ok? Neck yourself. I’ve literally had that charge do barely any damage to me or straight up one shot me because of the bank hit box on it.Have you tried dodging the charge because it's pretty easy.>If his hit box is so broken that it can hit me through my shield, yes, it’s a fucking issue, you retarded nigger. Bosses snapping onto you is also shit design and looks retarded. I should be able to strafe around a boss to avoid an attack if possible and not be punished by them instantly turning 180 degrees and hitting me.Have you tried dodging instead of hiding behind your shield.>You are full of shit, you can’t even dodge it while light rolling.Congratulations on showing that you do not know the game. I guess the videos on youtube showing people dodging it with just rolls and the webms that have been posted here doing it are all just AI deepfakes. My own experience is also an AI deepfake too.Retard.
>>484630379guts cosplay
>>484630467It's a common mistake, so don't feel bad about it. I doubt many would care to point it out.
>>484630418>n-no youGo outside take a breather.
>>484630484>Can't actually argue with the issues of the first 2 and says JUST ROLL insteadyou're deflecting harder than wolf there, man
if i could i’d plap tiche nonstop, let someone else be elden lord
>>484630481You know the bosses aren't real, right? Defending them won't save you, they can't help you
>>484630526No thanks. I'm not a seething cuck so I'm comfy.
>>484630429Thats because it is
>>484630484>These broken attacks are OKAY because they don't always hit youAre you retarded?
>>484630521Nah, I appreciate it, I get pedantic with my dad about pronunciation all the time so I don't mind when I get called out on booboos like that. I always get stunlocked with then and than anyway, I know how to use them but my brain always starts fucking with me even if I used the correct one to begin with.
>>484630583Not anymore because I killed them
>>484630606sex SEEEEEEEEEEEEX
>>484630295>Bosses snapping onto you is also shit design and looks retardedSpeaking of, Morgott has really good animations because for a lot of stuff he literally turns instead of rotating in place.
>>484630484>Boss attack deletes your save data and bricks your PC if it lands>DUDE IT'S FINE IT DOESN'T NEED TO BE PATCHED JUST DODGE
>>484630606WOAH MOMMA O_O
>>484630583You're telling me my ranni tulpa isn't real? Fat chance
>just made it to DLC>smithscript get nerfedFUCKING HELL THEY WERE ALREADY SHIT WEAPON WHY DID THEY HAVE TO RUIN MY FUN
>>484630610>These attacks are BROKEN because I can't dodge them okay!!
>>484630551>NOOOOOOOOO I DONT WANT TO ROLL I WANT TO HIDE BEHIND MY SHIELD HELP ME HELP MEShould've learned to play.>>484630610>its broken because it punishes me for being hitDon't get hit.>>484630674>look at my pathetic strawmanYeah that's a really pathetic strawman alright.
>>484630606
>>484630606SNIFFF
Is bloodhounds fang too underpowered for the DLC?
>>484630089bro your, inb4 not a spear.
is there any fashion that goes well with this ugly piece of shit?
>>484630730>i have no comeback>STRAWMAN STRAWMAN!!!!!Neck yourself
>>484630775prophets robe
So far not a single person has managed to give an example of an undodgable/unavoidable attack.And this will continue to be the case.
>>484630730>>It's broken because it punishes me for being hitAh, so you are just an actual retard. I bet you were completely fine with those glitched bleed dogs on release.
pretty..
>>484630771YOOO
>>484627916Naked is easier than mid roll. Cope N' Seethe
>>484630730>make a strawman>complain about strawmen a few lines downThey're not sending their best
>>484630484Based but don't bother arguing with shitters. They're desperately trying to rationalize why the game is too hard for them and will bitterly lash out at you when you tell them the games not actually broken
>>484630138i did make an argument. my argument is that they shouldnt scrap an interesting mechanic but rather rebalance it. your argument is to point finger and laugh then get mad when i explain that isnt anything worth acknowledging. im more angry that you cant make an argument if anything. i want to discuss this topic and all i got is a shit eating monkey.
>>484630775Full Tree Sentinel.
>>484630835Radahn double slash into x slash is only dodgeable by weird terrain you can't rollslop it
>This makes tumblrtrannies throw a seethefit
>>484630823>you NEED to address my ridiculous strawman and take it seriously!Lmao.Please show which boss move in the game bricks your save file upon being hit.>>484630923Wrong.
>>484630835Radahn cross slashRadahn laser nuke (low FPS)
So there is literally 0 difference between light and med rolls?
>>484630851Yeah, pretty f**king ugly!
>>484630880Please explain why bosses having vanishing hitboxes isn't broken.
>>484630945it makes me seethe because of how bad of a render it is
>>484630881That's not an argument. That's an opinion. Again, you're just crying that this game isn't a completely different game. Nobody gives a shit. Go play that game. This is your final (You).
Seriously what is it with eastern Euro hours and "git gud" subhuman homos.
>>484630952there is but its very minor and the tradeoff is that you are naked. this is a midroll only game.
>people still saying that radahns cross attack is undodgable when there is footage on youtube of people reliably dodging it and people have posted webms in previous threads showing it tooman it really is waterfowl all over again lmao>I CANT DODGE IT SO IT IS UNDODGABLE REEEEEEEEEEEE
>>484630952Same amount of invincibility but light rolls travel further
>>484630950>wrongnice you didn't provide a counterargument good debate I'll accept your concession
>>484630951They are literally both dodgeable
>>484630986>An attractive woman? In my modern triple A video game? No, no, this can't be, they're all supposed to be fugly troglodytes! I'm gonn-ACK!
>>484630965raaaaa! curse you anon!
>>484630880>N-No my precious From Soft COULDN'T have made a mistake! The people pointing out the broken hitboxes, inconsistent damage, FPS demolishing particle effects, etc are just shitters!I'm someone who likes fighting Malenia, but shit like Radahn is just inexcusable.
>>484630950>Can't even argue anymore just strawmans and one word answersThanks for giving up lmao
>>484630429It is because it's for straight males.
>>484630950>StrawmenPlease give me the exact quote you pulled ">NOOOOOOOOO I DONT WANT TO ROLL I WANT TO HIDE BEHIND MY SHIELD HELP ME HELP ME" from .You're not strawmanning, are you?
>>484630987>pls go away *sniff*
>>484623320nta but it's infusable. you can put the status on it
>>484630880Yeah I know this is what it boils down to and I know they're too shit to take a look at themselves and realise that they are the issue not the game.I'm taking the fact that they get so bitter and irate when you point this out though that they are aware of the truth and the more I and others point it out the closer they get to quitting this series for good and for the better.Also because I don't want from to concede to the masses of shitters crying and ruin fights that I enjoy because of it.
>>484631049If the attack requires light roll or i-frame boosting talismans to dodge, it doesn't count
Love to see Radahn enjoyers continuing to BTFO the shitter gank squads in these threads
>>484631237>Got caught out so he dropped the reply chain and deflected againLMAOOOOOO
>>484624002I'll invade and abuse your goonished
>>484631049Waterfowl is still shit and so is that attack thoughever
>>484631131Your argument was literally you crying because you couldn't use a shield against an attack and I told you to stop being stupid and roll it then which is easily done.Now you're shitting your pants.Cope and seethe.
>>484631092>>484630945>>484630606how much you wanna bet its brownoids that seethe at these images?
>>484631036>>484631063oh ok.
>Fromdrones getting eaten aliveFeels good to see it.
Sex with Curseblade Meera and Florissax at the SAME TIME
>>484631237>Stopping replies after you get btfo and pretending to be someone elseSad!
>>484630945Nigger you are a faggot who gets off on posting titillating images knowing that it arouses other men; don't bring up Tumblr or trannies as if you're any better.
>>484631036>this is a midroll only game>drinks the physik for 300 extra equip loadHow long was the effect? Five minutes?
>>484627519Canonically they are attracted to such men, not ones themselves.Rennala and Rellana were normal lovestruck, devoted fools and Rennala's mindbreak was probably also the reveal that Radagon=Marika.Rennala= attracted to religious zealot/warlordRellana=devoted to Vlad the Impaler expy, craving his snakeRanni= cautiously won over by a similarly devoted pyscho that kills demigods as a day jobCarian women are the best because they want to fix you and through hell or high water will remain loyal unless you betray that trust first!
>>484631287>i am bad and still cant dodge waterfowl in the year of 2024 and i am proudly shouting it for all to hearCringe.Also the shitters pretending that everybody telling them that they are bad is just one person is funny.Their delusional cope knows no bounds.
>>484631294So you're unable to get a direct quote? You're strawmanning?
>>484631049>when there is footage on youtube of people reliably dodgingyeah, with light weight, backstep talisman and frame perfect timingdon't be a nigger, it's not possible to reliably dodge it for anyone playing the game normally
Do frenchies really???
>>484630835That spin laser move metyr does is the only thing I haven't dodged and can't see how you do it.
>>484631092frankly Marika's cannon proportions and looks are more interesting.This is just a pretty generic bimbo wearing Marika's clothes.
>>484631173>I don't want from to concede to the masses of shitters crying and ruin fights that I enjoy because of it.I wouldn't worry about that, jap devs generally don't give a shit about western audiences crying and they give them the easy mode options anyway. Their seething goes unheard, people who liked the ER base game fights won hard with the DLC
Why are people so adamant at defending Consort Radahn? The other DLC bosses are great, but Radahn is just a complete shit show on all levels.
>>484630329your claim is that they "created an entire mechanic" but they said it was unintended in the patch notesrefute this retard
>>484631294>Strawmanning after seething about someone else strawmanning>can't even mount a defenseSub 80 IQ, and that's being generous.
>>484631396Are you denying that you were not crying about how you can't block one of his moves with a shield?
>>484631435you can't, even no hit runners use raptor of the mists
>>484631387The fuck are you going on about
>>484631447His first phase is pretty fun all things considered, his second phase is a bit of a visual overload but i feel like it will grow on me eventually.
>>484631438>She's not lore accurate, a REAL woman is a wrinkled hag an-ACK!
So Magic is female and Faith is male right?And Radagon uses both because of Marika.
>>484630987all arguments are opinion in some regard. it is when backed by reasonable information and justification does it become more than opinion into an argument. an argument is in some sense, attempting to convince someone to your opinion. it is not inherently a angry discussion tho many are. someday, you might be able to take part in this activity. goodbye forever monkey man.
>>484631490Can you please provide the direct quote of the anon saying ">NOOOOOOOOO I DONT WANT TO ROLL I WANT TO HIDE BEHIND MY SHIELD HELP ME HELP ME"?Otherwise you are strawmanning, and if you are strawmanning while complaining about others strawmanning, you are a retard.Please show the exact quote now.
>>484630771ah, I don't believe it...
>>484631004They have to cope with spending half their wage on this dlc
>>484628760The general was the personal echochamber of Noxtroon before the DLC came out though, the time before that with the ryonatards and yumeschizos was good despite everything
>>484631263>>484631319My only contribution to the ongoing argument was this >>484630880>Don't bother arguing with shitters Which I'll continue not to do, you can keep crying but Miyazaki isn't listening
>If his hit box is so broken that it can hit me through my shield, yes, it’s a fucking issue, you retarded nigger.>BRO QUOTE ME WHERE I WAS CRYING BECAUSE HE HIT ME THROUGH MY SHIELD DO IT BRO QUOTE ME BROI give you the solution and that is to dodge it since not all attacks can be blocked and you start crying, and shitting and pissing.Absolutely filtered.
>>484630771Miyazaki... it's been two years... everyone already has the bells and palace approach grind spot...
I can't even keep the game open right now, it keeps crashing. Wtf is this patch.
>>484631676>Dropping reply chain because he doesn't have an answerkek
>>484631502Why not vow of the indomitable?
>>484631049>reliably dodging ityou're gonna judge such a thing only from the successful attempt which actually gets uploaded?
>>484631342Have you ever looked at hentai anon? That was probably drawn by a man. Ever watched porn? Most likely all recorded by men, edited by men, produced by men. Do you like how woman look in Lingerie? High heels? Makeup? Well, all designed and produced by men.By your logic, you arent allowed to like any of these things either since they also all stem from men. Just admit that you're a homo tumblrfaggot already, anon. Its for the best.
>>484631729it activates slower and lasts less time
I dont use shields, I dodgeNot out of principle, I just don't know how to use shields
>>484631676Still no direct quote and had to stop replying.Thank you for your consession.
is elemer weaker than the dragonbarrow bell-bearing hunter?
>>484631676An attack being unblockable is not the same as hitbox weirdness making it hit through a shield.
>>484631676That attack is pure physical and is inconsistent, just like Gaius’s charge. I’ve also had Gaius’s charge hit me through a shield.You are a nigger that is literally defending broken hit boxes. Kill yourself immediately.
>player dead angles in previous souls gamesyeah man intentional design, just skilful play, not abuse, high skill tech>boss dead angles you in ERNOOOOOOOOOO ITS UNFAIR ITS A BROKEN HITBOX THIS NEEDS FIXED NOW WTF I CANT JUST BLOCK EVERYTHINGMy sides in orbit.
>>484631565most people playing this game are straight males
>>484631721Did you verify intengrity of files like the patch notes said?
>>484631660>looney troon reply type >”I-ITS NOT ME I SWEAR”
>>484631762hold the block button>>484631775yes, by a lot
>>484631809Not true even
>>484631808>Just spamming anime images while strawmanning after bitching about strawmanningconfirmed mindbroken
>>484631836Thank you Miyazaki.
>>484631808Never seen someone break like this while failing to defend bad boss design.
>>484631775It doesn't make any sense including why he would still appear if you already killed him in Shaded Castle, but yes.
>>484631808>previous soul gamesWhich?
im not sure what happened to the absolute state of this thread in the last hour so ill just carry on not posting for now.
>>484631660The best thing is From don't care about their impotent cries and nothing will change.They'll get bored of screeching at the walls before long and leave like the tourists always do.I give it a month tops before they all go back to whatever gacha game they're playing.That's probably why they're so furious, they know From don't care about their opinion and won't listen to them. It's funny.
>>484631808How much health, stamina, poise, fp and hyperarmor does the boss have compared to the player, troon
>>484631808What'd a dead angle?>>484631859But I still get hit and take damage and can be staggered, and it makes it harder to attack right after. Plus guard counters always seem really unreliable for me, I don't fully get how they're teiggered
>>484631938i think a lot of people are on vacation or something. given the timezones it's euros or asians up late
>>484631938Patch Hours. It'll be like this for the next day or two.
Just because someone can do it doesn't make it good design. For example if you gated the final boss behind sucking cock IRL that is bad design, but I have a feeling some faggots would defend even that.
>>484631991use an actually good shield with 100 phys block and upgrade it. guard counters you use it after they finish their combo string, just try it and you'll see. start a new game and guardcounter some imps in catacombs
>>484632037>if you gated the final boss behind sucking cock IRLEarly access to SoTE worked like that lol.
The bads seethe at this accurate image.
>>484632107I remember when someone posted the flaws of the Radahn fight and it was filled with cocksuckers seething but not a single one was able to actually debunk anything.
>>484631676>>484631808Shitters literally blowing steam out of their ears and punching holes in the drywall over these posts lmao
>>484631938Most times after a game gets a patch it reminds attentionseekers and annoying fritters about the game and so they whinge and whine I'm threads for awhile
>>484632105Games journalism is bad design
>no summons at all for an houris everyone really using the coop mod now?
>anime picture>shitty, low quality postevery single time
>troon resorted to plebbit memesLMAO
>>484632158that guy was a little bit brainrotted since he called parrying and blocking cheese
>>484631942Yes that's why Starscourge didn't get nerfed. Or why several of the AC6 bosses weren't nerfed as well. Because From doesn't listen.
bread...
When is Gaius "invincible" though because he's my favorite fight in the DLC and I have genuinely never encountered that problem
>>484631997oh no, not my overpowered shit thats become the new meta! (that I never use cause im not a metasweat, and nerfing bosses won't effect me either cause I don't use skibidi upgrades)whatever will i do>>484632183they can go back to twitter where their constant bitching is tolerated and leave us be
>>484631454firstly, i said they "scrapped an entire mechanic they accidentally created", meaning yeah i already agreed it was unintended. secondly their wording of unintended is unclear, it could mean the effect was unintended, or their number formula was unintended or something else. As an assumption, I want to say this might be a scenario where they just removed the guard frame formula completely in this hasty patch to iron out the numbers later, as they initially intended for it to have a partial effect rather than a full 100% reduction.
I feel like I don't do enough damage when not using Status stuff in Co-Op. I like to help people, but I feel like I'm simply not helping enough. I have 60 Faith, 22 STR and 18 Dex. I'm using the Fire Knight Greatsword with the Flame Spear Ash. Using Alexanders Charm. I use Flame Grant me Strength and Golden Vow. But I still feel kinda like I'm just not helping people as much as others...Any other Faith Melee dudes around got any suggestions?
>>484632218yeah i am wondering this as well
>>484632217Florissax will be bread
>>484632210Isn't the whole thing about Radahn that blocking him with a greatshield is the easiest way to beat him and it's 100% a cheese tactic
>>484632201I got summoned 3 times in an hour at haligtree
>>484631991Two things about guard counters:1) they're mostly for easy posture breaks against normal mobs2) if you for some reason decide to use guard counters in bossfights, anything bigger than a longsword will be too slow, but also you will get guard broken long before you get an opportunity to counter unless you're using a greatshield
>>484632256use the fire scorpion charm
>>484632248>my headcanon is [x] about what from meant by thisnot an argumentdon't try again it's pointless
>>484632203Who could've guessed the crying shitter is a tourist
>>484632201>is everyone using the mod that fixes the game nowyes
>>484632107I disagree with some of this, but "I also forgot about the jump button" is so so so so so so trueI see so many people posting about attacks which are made so easy just by tapping jump ehen its anywhere near youWhen I realized you could jump over attacks like in my second playthriugh it was like the game had completely changed for me>>484632218If he's invincible then why can I still see him>>484632247Hehehehhe but I think it's mostly /v/
>>484632210I'd call stuff like parrying every single one of Gwyn's attacks to be cheesing, to be fair.
>>484632286No it was intended, you can tell by how little stamina damage most of his attacks do. In fact if you're dodge rolling everything you're playing the game wrong.
>>484632286he was referring to shield use at all, not shieldpoking as a specific tactic.
>>484632159Them being this furious with their own ineptitude is peak comedy.Not had this much fun since beating radahn.
>>484632328Doesn't that nerf my defenses? I feel like given how many people don't look for Scoobydoo Fragments, I already got to be insanely careful not to get one or two-shot since I'll enter someones world and they're already 80% done through the DLC yet they're only on 6 Fragments...
>>484632218>>484632274Gaius (sometimes) doesn't have a hurtbox during his charge attack which means ranged attacks and the like go straight through him. Just ignore him completely. If he gets stuck on a wall and keeps charging, attacks that try to hit him (Sometimes) do nothing.He's got some really big hitbox fuckery on that one attack.
>>484632201No you moron, the connection after the patch is typically fucked.
>>484632378why? he's using a sword. it's certainly easier than rolling but that doesnt make it cheese, and you still have many chances for failuer
>>484632107>>484632375it took me until godfrey/hoarah loux to realize I should be jumping over certain attacks instead of rolling
>>484632203not them, anime website. leave. thanks.
>>484632325So likeHow is shields a good build then? Id ont understand
>Anon replying to himself because everyone is calling him a retard>>484632416I think it's because the charge turns him into a projectile. I saw some boss vs boss stuff, and Radagon parried the charge.
>>484632407the reward is well worth the downside in pve
>replies to itself pretending to be other anonssad
>>484632334it wasnt an argument. its an assumption. i said it right there in the post. you try but you really just need to read and not be whatever it is you are now.
>>484632464kill yourself. :)
>>484632218I don't know what everyone's problem with him is, I went in and got dunked on for a couple of tries but if you fight him without lock-on midrolling his shit becomes a lot easier and he's not constantly facing you so you can get in more hits. I posture broke him twice in the attempt where I killed him.
>>484632496That straight up can't be intended, can it?
>>484632338>>484632464fuck off animenigger
>Les Hours Europienne>Thread is schizo dogshit and coomer bait
>>484632530so you constructed a headcanon about what from is doing then when someone else told you your headcanon was wrong you told them nuh uh? what a waste of time
>invade a group of chinkoids with swift slash and rolling sparks >neither does anything and they all fucking die to Milady
>>484632505Hmm Okay, I'll give it a shot. Thanks.
>>484632325you're shit stop giving people advice
>>484632375Jumping is too big brain for these bads.Even though it's insanely good..You think they can handle jumping when they can't even use dodge rolls?
As long as it was intended by the developers it isn't cheese. Summoning, mimic tear, ash of war spam, whatever else. Only cheese tactic was the perfumes and it was patched out.
>>484632480The shield build is greatshield + weapon class that lets you attack while guarding, like spears and rapiers.
>>484632574only 6 more hours to to until west coaster hours start for more of the same
Why does the existence of PVP (which only a tiny minority of autists participate in) have to ruin all the fun? PVP is cancer on a game that should be single player.
>>484631745If you weren't being disingenuous you'd realise there is a degree of separation between women wearing sexy lingerie to arouse and the men who designed and produced it. You were literally ERPing with some other fags the other night, shitting up the thread.
>>484632218I heard people crying about his hitbox on his charge here before I reached him and got worried.Then I reached him and just casually diagonally forward dodged through every charge with ease.It really was one of those "shitters screeching loud to seem right" moments.
>>484632656i don't think that cheese = exploit necessarily though it often is
>>484632721Why do people care what this guy says?
...so what happened to shield powerstancing? Not even a consolation paired weapon?
I DONT LIKE MILADYI DONT LIKE THAT IT STARTS WITH A THRUSTIT MISSES AND STABS OVWR ENEMIES RHAT ARE LOE TO THE GROUNDI TRIED AND TRIED AND TEIED IVE USED IT FOR 20 HOURS, IT SUCKS
>>484632721The only thing that actually mattered in PvE there was rolling sparks, but here's your (You)
>>484632576yes, i said it as an aside to support what the vagueness of the word "unintended" could refer to, if not to the mechanic as a whole. this is all things you can glean yourself, monkey child
>>484632721pvp is a small yet important part of this gamealso >eceleb shit
>>484632107Why have are all the people crying in this thread still unable to refute this?
>>484632574>hes still seething over images of fictional 2d women
>>484632785Me on the left!
>>484632721What do the other things offer in PVE that they don't offer in PVE still? That is, other than Rolling Sparks.
>>484632774OH I GET IT SUDDENLY! If the normies don't have someone to tell them what was "good" about the balance changes they'll have no idea.
>>484632748If a cheese was intended by the devs its not a cheese, its just playing optimally. Plunge attacking the Taurus demon in DS1 or getting it to jump off isn't cheese, because the devs explicitly designed the level to facilitate it.
Question, why did anyone doubt he'd shove in radahn at the end? https://fandomwire.com/hidetaka-miyazaki-second-favorite-elden-ring-boss/Miyazaki himself said radahn and rykard were two of his favorite bosses and demigods in general.
>>484632559>NOOOOOOO YOU CANT POST ANIME PICTURES WITH YOUR POSTS ON AN ANIME WEBSITEImagine declaring yourself a tourist this loudly.Frightening.
>>484632829On their left? Wow, hi Messmer
>>484632789Why shouldn't I have the right to steamroll this game's retarded OOOOO LOOK AT THIS EPIC SET PIECE bosses if I have the equipment?
>>484632778i was really hoping the black knight shield that looks like a door was gonna be it.
>>484632721I enjoy it killing shitters in invasion
>>484632778All weapons power stance when paired with a weapon of the same class, and a few with extra exception classes. All dual wield weapons that are paired are power stanced when using both hands.All power stance weapons get nerfs to damage when power stanced though, get used to dealing like 82%+82% damage for an attack that would deal 105% with one hand
>>484632919Because From decided you shouldn't and nerfed it appropriately.
>>484632915This hasn't been an anime website in years, the official mascot is pepe.
>>484632785If you're not abusing the tap R2 you're using it wrong.
>>484632785start with the R2 into R1. thats my goto combo for PvE. R2 comes out really fast for a strong attack, almost as fast as the R1.
>>484632995for the last fucking time it's dual wielding you don't go in a stance, this isn't ds2
>>484632817
>>484633017From are jews
Shouldn't mohg's shackle work on Radahn?
>>484633040>>484633071I always forget you can combo heavy attacks into light attacks, thank you...
>smithscript nerfedThat's actually fucking infuriating, the hammer and axe felt so good to use
>>484633093>500 DMGYour Scoobydoo fragments?
He's so cute.
>>484633093looks like you got hit twice by it. maybe falling from your horse reset your iframes and you were still in the kick hitbox.
>>484633179but the dagger was buffedand lmao the golem fists were already unusable AND nerfed
>>484633181that was at +10, it's just that spears do a lot of tiny damage increments before the final thrust
>>484633145The shackle is tied to Mohg's soul which no longer inhabits the body
>>484633093>has a sideswipe he does>on foot he'll just circle you and you can rollslop it>on torrent he will just run up until you're both even and sideswipe you>this one shots torrentI still do not understand how to dodge it on torrent is it just a "fuck you for actually using the gimmick" move?
>>484633182Yeah, acutely ugly he is!
Today is the day. The day that the incubus shall be felled. I've gotten them down to 2 hits yesterday. Today is the day for sure.
>>484633093Oof skill issue bro, shoulda just rolled better RNG.
>>484633269You aren't supposed to fight him on Torrent.
>>484621794the hitbox was shit,
>>484633182not really. his body proportions are like slenderman
>>484633212Every boss has several bugged attacks that can multihit you. Torrent has nothing to do with it.
>>484633317good luck cutie
>>484633212Oh no, Gaius just has really shit hitboxes that will cause him to hit you twice. It's also why his charge one shots you/goes through shields sometimes.
>>484633171not always but lightgreatsword has at least one i recall. it has another in R1 R1 R1 R2 but its far less useful. not even sure why they bothered with that one.
>>484633093I perfect blocked that the other day, and the jingle sounded 3 times in quick succession. Reminds me of those blood dogs.
>>484633345Nta but personally I think that like that sort of gangly limbs look in general, not him necesaarily, is so hot
>>484633212That's just one of the issues with the DLC - a lot of bosses can multihit. IIRC Gaius' charge can also multhit oneshot
>>484632559Holy shit nigger, go back
>>484633326Then why add torrent
>rollslopEverytime some shitter uses this forced term to describe their inability to time dodges I let out a hearty laugh.
>>484633425It's probably a bug but I also don't expect From to fix it.
>>484633093>>484633269Do you try to do the whole starscourge Radahn fight on torrent too? He has applications during the fight but you should spend most of it on foot
>>484633345i love myself a lanky twink
>>484633145
Do you get to the area where you find the 4th piece of the map naturally by going through the story, or is it optional content? I just reached Enir-Ilim, but I still don't have a complete map.
>>484633421I dont know why i said I always forget, that was a lie, Im sorry, I'm gonna admit it, I didn't know that Elden Ring had combos at all like that, I didn't know that was a thing
>>484633394>>484633370jesus, i got lucky with him i guess, lucked out and killed him when he was about to cave my face in. avoided that hitbox bullshit.
>>484633093WTF you guys told me the people complaining about oneshots were lying...
>>484633480Actually, that's a more nuanced term referring to how people dislike your horrifically limited, unevolved moveset that mostly consists of rolling around and pressing R1. While bosses continue to become more impressive and complicated.
Thinking of rerolling from ARC/DEX to DEX/FAI and just going Keen + Bloodflame blade if I want to bleed cheese something. Feels like it would just be 90% as effective as ARC with occult but it opens me up to a ton of good DEX weapons as well. Thoughts?
>>484633179I did a couple of invasions with them just now; at RL60+12 with a 20/18 str/fth split the damage still feels alright. My flame art smithscript greathammer went from around 467 to 444 AR (two-handed), while the axe went from 426 to 401 (one-handed).
>>484633480I love it. I love rollslopping bosses and then telling others YDBTG because they didn't rollslop too unironically
>>484633548The map for Rauh ruins is in Rauh basin if that's what you're talking about
>>484633179All of the smithscript weapons had a bug where their int/fth scaling on elemental infusion were absurdly high and no it's not le heckin nerferino that Cirques don't get to have colossal sword AR on casters for free anymore. They were broken and you just didn't notice because you were too busy exploiting other broken shit.
>>484633524You aren't supposed to fight starscpurge redahn, you ride around his arena and summon the nocs over and over, they kill him for you
>>484633549its understandable, not alot of them are useful anyways
>>484633471Because it's in the open world or something, idk. You can tell immediately that Gaius' attacks are meant to be rolled through though.
>>484633548>optionalAlmost the entire map is optional, technically all of the DLC is but there's allegedly only two bosses you need to beat to fight the designated final boss.
I regret taking my level 80 guy to ng++++. The dlc is going to rape me.
new thread when you stupids
>>484633321Unironically a skill issue for thinking circling around the boss whacking him on torrent wouldn't be punished
>>484633212Well that means the hitboxes are fucked no? Which is the argument.
>>484633623No, I mean the area north of the first finger ruins and Jagged Peak.
>its an unironic anime hating on an anime imageboard tourist episode*boots game and plays it* miss me with this gay shit, and return from whence thy came
>>484633671You can beat the entire DLC by skipping Rellana, going to the Church District entrance, dropping down into the main Shadow Keep from Church District, then killing Messmer, Romina and getting teleported straight to the final dungeon.Everything else (Including Belurat) is optional.
>>484633676How dare you use your horse in the one fight that lets you use your horse. Silly
>>484633593The game wouldn't be better if you had had your own multi-hit anime combos to hit the boss with. Play DMC for that.
>>484633179The funny thing is, outside of the Cirques, they were all pretty balanced. Powerful, but no where near 90% of the other powerful shit in the DLC. The Cirques were 100% overpowered bullshit. They deserved the nerf. I'm extremely salty though. They were incredibly fun to use. Now they're god awful. Lowest damage of any Axe or Hammer.
We get it. You're a homosexual. MOVING ON
anyone has god miquella's model next to malenia>>484633767the topic already moved, talk about elden ring now
>>484633794>>484633524
>>484633707That's an optional hidden area
What programs do you use to record your fights?I what to make it too.
>>484633617Bloodflame on a native bleed weapon procs pretty fast yeah. I nearly killed Mohg before he could finish nihiling with a bloodflame buffed quality flamberge and all I did was spam repeating thrusts.
elden ring is an anime gameif you hate anime why do you play elden ring?
>>484633804But you do have your own multi-hit anime combos and flashy, wind-up attacks to hit the bosses with in Elden Ring, they're just completely useless and make you wonder why they coded anything besides R1.
>>484633804t. From employee in charge of making every cool ability have 0 hyperarmor
>>484633890Manga game actually.
>>484633895They were made for gankers to spam at redcels.
>>484633689too slow friend, others have explained in a respectable manner, of which i already relented to their counter argument. thats how humans talk btw.
>>484633865I take pictures every few frames so it looks like a stop motion animation
>>484633317>165have you tried leveling up?
the pearl shield talisman sucks and that's a good thing
>>4846336577IB0M-7EIMM-8RWZ4 Here you go
>actuallly we've since moved ongood then shut up about it redditors. anime website always has is and will be.>>484633865the share button on ps4 or OBScan I duel wield scythe and A GUN in salt and sanctuary or are reapers two hand only?and where are the patch notes for this emergency nerf bs
>>484633548The map is basically hidden in a place that doesn't really have much to do with most of the part of that map, which is unironically genius design honestly. Because I didn't have the map I had to carefully plan out my moves and look for my surroundings far more.
>>484633943>yes I want to spam ashes of war to kill every boss
>>484633865Nvidia Shadowplay or the Microsoft game recorder with the Xbox game barThen use Webm for Retards (I think they go by Webm for Bakas now)
>>484633895You can definitely use them if you find the openings for them. You can get off Elenora's Ash on Gaius if you want, but obviously you can't spam them.
>>484633968I have no idea what you're on about.
You guys hate making threads huh?
>>484634006you're the only one mentioning it>>484634086wait for the spergs to calm down
>>484634047>implying players don't already do thatThey're just forced to use the more boring AoW now
Is no one going to make a new thread? What the fuck are ya'll doing?
>>484634086I'm afraid that someone else will make It at the same time I so and it'll look foolish
>>484633804I just want better movement options, more interesting movesets for weapons (LGS is a step in the right direction), and for ashes and spells to actually be useful in bossfights
oven is broken.... no more bread.....
>>484633980He has 60 vig, 80 damage stat and almost 40 END, leveling further isn't gonna do anything for his build. He needs more scadus.
>>484634116five minutes ago at least three redditors were biting my head off, I come back from a smoke and "im the only one mentioning it" fuck you.
>>484633943>>484633895>Calls it "unevolved" because you only roll and press R1>Wants to beat bosses by only pressing L1 insteadOk.
>>484633480>noooo you can't use anything other than the tired old rolling to avoid damage it MUST be a roll because it just has to be okayRollslop is a perfect term desu. They reject all other methods of avoiding damage and just eat the same old shit every game.
>>484634147Just announce that you're making it.
>>484634086>not even page 10coward
>>484634249Okay I'm making it
>>484633317>11 skibidibwo
>>484634225That isn't what anyone said, you're being disingenuous for almost no reason and arguing against the further evolution of the Soulslike formula because... uhh, you don't like having your favorite games criticized.
does this>Fixed a bug that prevented players from cancelling the attack recovery of two-handed strong attacks by rolling for certain weapons of the Backhand Blades weapon typemean backhand blades have feign backflip now?
>>484634168>I just want better movement optionsYou got the jump. >and for ashes and spells to actually be useful in bossfightsThey literally are already if you look for the right opening, spamming them is obviously not going to work. Look at Bayle, his entire fight is built around one weapon and it's AoW.
>>484633865Pirated version of camtasia screen recorder / editor
>>484633317>>484633385>>484633980>>484634313I FUCKING DID IT
>>484634215more levels = more better
>>484634225L1 is the block button, you dork.And I'd like to have more options than Roll + R1. Why does From give so many cool attacks that just get you killed when you use them against anything that isn't a basic enemy?
>>484633179>the hammer felt so good to usewhat?? It sucks. The throw does baby damage. At least on my PC.
>>484634086This is the first time in ages that people have had the decency to wait a bit. Rushing to make a new thread when the current one is still perfectly usable is gachanigger behavior.
>>484634363nice
>>484634363grats anon
>>484634363You have slain a god, but we do not grant you the right to claim you have beaten the game.
>>484634363That was fast. What spells are you using?
>>484634363Absolute unit.
>>484634323You're idea of "evolution" isn't very good though.You want to press more buttons. And your AoW and Spell problem doesn't even exist.
>>484634363Shield but only 11 skibidi so as the decider of who beat the game and who didn't I say you beat the game
>>484634363Good job anon
>>484634349>You got the jump. >his entire fight is built around one weapon and it's AoWOver a decade and we haven't progressed at all
>>484634006>OBSWill try.>>484634060>Nvidia ShadowplayOh yea I have Nvidia card. > Webm for RetardsThx.>>484634358>camtasia screen recorderThx.>>484634363Grats!
>>484634326*come on don't make me test it myself im currently boss rushing the endgame I dont have timer2 cancel with circle, yes no ?
new thread pls
>>484634393But anon, you could totally maybe use that big AoW like... once or twice against an aggressive boss. Maybe during a phase transition or when he uses his big nuke or something.Unless it's like a combo ash of war. Oh and forget about trying to cast those longer spells with no hyper armor more than once or twice, even though that's like a significant portion of them
>>484634363grats anon but we all know you are hiding impenetrable thorns underneath your UI lets be real here
Commander Gaius has to be the worst designed boss in the franchise. I'd take Godskin quads over fighting him again
>>484634584>>484634584>>484634584And I actually updated the patch notes
>>484634363Everyone ITT was arguing about whether the fight is good or not. Did you rike?
>>484634481The only "ideas" of evolution I've stated are making Ashes of War useful, and advancing beyond simple R1slop. Something Fromsoft themselves are trying to do with unique R2s, guard counters, deflection mechanics, etc. You are on the wrong side of history.
>>484634483It's only a medium shield. I only used it to block Miquella's light explosion and their aerial rapid slam but I accept if you YDBTG me. I'm satisfied nonetheless.
>>484634580Why do you want to spam them though. Not every spell or AoW is built for every situation
>>484634639I would accept the deflect as a core tool if it was nerfed somehow.
>>484634363>hiding spellshehguess you didnt do it
>>484634625It's definitely not From's best but it was ok. The only thing I would have changed is remove the light pillar follow-ups from Radahn's regular attacks. I feel like those were unnecessary.
>>484634639>making Ashes of War usefulThey already are>Something Fromsoft themselves are trying to do with unique R2s, guard counters, deflection mechanics, etc.So again it really sounds like your problem doesn't exist.
>>484634849You simply cannot keep this pace in this argument. You can't remember what we were discussing a mere two posts back. What a waste of time.
>>484634471>>484634798I only used Weebveil.>lol you just removed them after the fightBelieve what you want. Funnily I didn't even use the shield buff spell cause I forgot about it.
>>484634947You refuse to accept AoW's can be used in bossfights because the ones you want to use can't be spammed.You have more options than you think, but you ignore them. You literally just want the game to be something it's not.
I'm not updating until this playthrough is finished
I killed Messmer, made my way to burn the tree, fought all the way to Leda and her companions, but never explored the whole Central/North Eastern third of the map. It feels like the Leda fight is endgame but I'm curious if I can complete other NPC "Miquella companions" quests. Or, since I started the fight, those are locked.I found one way that seems to lead to the Central/North Eastern part of the map. However, it almost feels antithetic to my "continue an exploration path before trying another", since this whole dlc I've stuck to one path till I found the end. I actively avoided the Black Keep since that seemed the way to go, but figured the last Central/North Eastern part of the map would come after. But again, I feel like I'm at the last few bosses with this fight.Can anyone tell me, without spoiling how close I am to the ending, if there's another way to the Central/North Eastern part of the map or if I found the one entrance (that being dropping down from Moorth Ruins). Also, if any NPC quests can still be completed, or if starting that fight locked them?
>>484631928dark souls 1 had a ton of dead anglingpeople would unlock and turn away while using wrath of the gods to hit people who were blocking
Anyone else getting the "inappropriate activity detected" message?
>>484633809>The Cirques were 100% overpowered bullshit.t. mad he got nailed by a jumping r2 that curved in from behind and hit for 600-700 damageskill issue, their scaling was perfect.
