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FIRIN MAH LAZOR edition

QOTT: Which spirit ash is the most fun to use? Mimic need not apply.

>Latest patch
https://en.bandainamcoent.eu/elden-ring/news/elden-ring-patch-notes-version-1123

>Main information document
https://rentry.org/erpasta

>Character planners
https://eip.gg/elden-ring/build-planner/
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/19Op36P7gdVMkPzFQX6OsjZcfyUjdGOj7Cjk9qFAVj-U/edit

>Interactive map
https://mapgenie.io/elden-ring/maps/the-lands-between

>Group password
erg

Jarred: >>486494909
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Miquella didn't do anything wrong, you're just killing him because that's what the game tells you to do
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My wife ? Zorayas.
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>Ranni ending more common than regular ending
speaks VOLUMES
also interesting how 9.5% of people have platinum'd the game, definitely the easiest souls game to do so
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>summoned Hornsent for Messmer
>he acts like I didn't, asking "who'd rob him of his purpose"
NICE FUCKING "QUESTS" YOU HAVE, MIYAHACKI
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What's the coolest looking weapon art that won't get interrupted by a boss breathing in your general direction
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May as well repost for the new thread.

>>486525603
It's really not strange when you look at the lore. Dragon Cult emulates the ancient dragons and pre-dates communion. Drakes and ancient dragons are two different species, and when Bayle and Placidusax brawled and left each other maimed, Placidusax bid mortals to engage in communion and hunting of drakes to eat their hearts and gain their power as both punishment and a means to kill Bayle himself. There's a reason none of the dragon communion incants utilize lightning and ALL of the dragon cult ones do, because drakes can't use lightning and are very different from ancient dragons (being made from flesh as opposed to stone). The two are related in lore, but are very different in exactly what they are. Dragon cultists and drake warriors are brothers-in-arms and many drake warriors may also BE cultists as a result, but the two are not fundamentally the same.
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Reminder that Miyazaki sold you ER with the donut hole missing and sold you the donut hole 2 years later.
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what was he pointing at?
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>>486525985
well he mind controlled some people and thats enough to need to slit his throat because uhhh... well st trina said he wouldn't like godhood anyways
miquella's story is total ass. i can't believe they released this shit as the final boss of their dlc after all the potential that base game miquella had to become a great character in the dlc.
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>>486526221
ER is bigger and better than every other Souls title so even if this IS true, it's perfectly okay. I've dumped more hours into ER than any other video game by a ludicrous margin so if this is what you call "unfinished" I don't believe a "complete" game even exists outside of incredibly short retro games.
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>>486526046
I guess I'm weird since I go for the Goldmask ending. I'd go for Ranni if I ever get around to that mage character I have sitting in Caelid...
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This right here is single-handedly what allowed Liurnia to fight back the Golden Order.
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Now what?
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>>486526454
fap to miquella porn
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>>486526252
It's pointing in the exact opposite direction
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>>486526454
You want more gay incest fanfiction cutscenes that somehow made it into the main game.
Thanks for 40 dollars
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seriously what the FUCK is that hitbox on Commander Gaius' charge
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>>486526431
I imagine a whole squad of sorcerers raining magic arrows on anyone that got close like Loretta when you approach Caria Manor
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>>486526596
Yeah forget dodging, get on torrent and outrun him.
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>>486526648
Skill issue, level your ADP
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>>486526428
Why do you need to play an INT build to wife Ranni? Carian women canonically thirst over FTH builds.
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Post now ye Tarnished
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>>486526673
torrent is slower than the hog
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>>486526252
>>486526515
Look at the way the dish is pointed to catch signals, look at the spike where it's pointed
It's pointed at the gate of divinity
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Is there any feasible long term solution for both the ever spreading deathroot and the frenzy flame?
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is elder inquisitor jori still an absolute nightmare on a pure caster build?
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Miyazaki is a fuckin' hack...
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>pssttt.. hey... I think we can fool this stupid nazi chud if we hide here, trans_sissy_goonaddict69420
>Yeah that sounds like a good idea, estrogen_chugging_cvcklord1995 if we use the mimic tear he will never-ACK
>NOOOOOO TRANS_SISSY_GOONADDICT69420 HE'S FUCKING CHEATING HOW COULD HE HAVE FOUND US NOOOOOO
>Oh my fauci, I cannot do anything against this racist nazi incel homophobic transphobic trump supporting chud
>I will soon become star dust just like you, Martin Luther King Junio-ACK
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>>486526596
you just dodge forward and left lol
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this is a challenge? i used milady through the whole thing
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>>486526152
This should help.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A-WS2sda0-0
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>>486526792
Funniest post you've done yet kek.
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>>486526706
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I'm genuinely in love with queen marika the eternal. Ask me anything
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>>486526792
Man I really wish the generic Blinkbolt had a follow up attack like the axe versions. It's a funny spacing tool but having an L2 that deals zero damage doesn't feel great.
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>>486526819
It's called content farming
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>>486526737
Deathroot probably won't be contained now that it has moved on to infecting creatures. By the time everyone realizes what a big deal the deathblight is it will be too late. If you use a fingerslaying knife on the three fingers you might be able to get rid of frenzy for a while but I would bet on it coming back eventually.
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Reposting cause I was posting in the old thread
I wish negatively appraising a message resulted in the host's instant death honestly.
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>>486526819
imagine consuming soulless viewfarming youtubeslop like this
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>>486527216
What does her feet smell like
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*looks at you*
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Some NPC just handed me an item called Bambieshart's Brocade and disappeared, wtf does this shit do?
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It's neat.
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>>486527469
*pulls ethernet cable*
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>You can put Flaming Strike on the Pata
Okay yeah I'm making an RL150 pure FTH invasion build for this.
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*does nothing against Base Serpent Messmer*

bravo michealzaki
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>>486527539
only if youre making use of its good block
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>>486527216
Why is she so perfect?
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>>486527272
I see it as a BHS that deals chip damage.
>>486527583
>pierce weapon + ash that scales with str
>FTH invasion build
???
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love this thing
>called a greatsword
>is a heavy thrusting sword
>longer than most spears
>better moveset than all spears
>better damage than all spears
Why are spears completely and utterly fucking useless unless dual wielded
Why are one handed spear lights actually and unironically slower than colossal while doing one fourth the damage with no hyperarmor
>>486527469
God I love this set
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>>486527712
Flaming Strike doesn't scale with STR tho?
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>>486527640
True. Base serpent = Eiglay believers in shambles.
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We need a stanky leg emote
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>>486527767
Flaming Strike, Eruption, and Flame of the Redmanes scale with STR exclusively.
Flame Skewer, Flame Spear, and Prelate's Charge scale with FAI exclusively. You can tell which is which by which infusion they default to; Fire or Flame Art.
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Imagine you stopped right before finishing Sellen's questline and gave up on becoming Elden Lord. Do you think she'd be willing to get married with you?
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>>486527767
It does, all fire ashes do.
Flame Art ashes are the ones that scale with FTH.
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>>486526706
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>>486527957
>Imagine you were a literal faillure of an apprentice
She'd be repulsed by you.
Turning to graven mass is the good ending for her. It's what she wants
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>>486527554
too late
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>summoned for astel 2 on a whim
>died to the grab attack like a fucking retard
co-op-san, forgive me...
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realistically, the carians would have easily been the biggest most powerful group since their sorcerers seem to have figured out eternal life and youth by moving between bodies as primal glintstone. everyone would be going to raya lucaria to learn how to do that.
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>>486526252
Wait they point at something?
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>>486528191
Dragons would be the strongest faction.
Nice youth *glomps you whole*
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>>486527142
Cool spear. Cool drip in general
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>>486526792
'pa i love you so much
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>>486527936
Flame Skewer or Flame Spear for my Flame Art Claymore?
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>>486527963
>>486527936
Fair enough, I'll just go STR build and use Fire infusion then. Easy. No spells but I'm just gonna be spamming L2 and running R1s anyway I'm sure.
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Playing with mods makes me feel lonely knowing om not connected to anyone
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>>486528252
typically
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>>486528495
Wtf
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>>486528495
this is some schizo retard shit
>>486528252
the spike is like a sundial. its not pointing at anything on the ground. its aligned to some cosmic body.
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Speaking of the Pata why don't I see anyone using Lifesteal Fist with it? Does weapon length not matter for that ash?
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>>486526252
>Elden Ring markings on the moon
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Such a cool character
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Slightly optimized build, ended up ditching the shield for another talisman shot, but I can swap back to it any time.
>>486528364
Thank you. Heavy Thrusting Swords are just how spears would play if they were good or fun
>>486528402
Depends on what you want. I use Flame Skewer because it's got a touch of hyperarmor which HTS lacks, and in general it does a boatload of damage. Flame Spear also has hyperarmor, but trades straight up damage for range, so it good for blasting mages who backpedal, or that phantom that's running off to heal.
Try both, they both buff your weapon exactly the same too
>>486528479
THE FIRE INFUSION IS A RED HERRING! Don't use it, you'll get WAY more counter damage from that awful broken running R1 on heavy, and the Flaming Strike damage will be identical
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Why no faith katana?
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>>486528665
>everything space related has an astrolabe pointing at it
>no exceptions
>durr you're a schizo
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>>486528489
Idk what's more enticing, young prettyboy Messmer or current-age Evil Man Who Is Bad For You[TM] Messmer or the extremely rare and elusive Daddy Messmer, seemingly only drawn by one Korean artist
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>>486526046
well i mean the whole game is telling you that the golden order is le bad and your only good sounding options are the hobo that a lot of people probably missed out on or ranni who is one of the coolest characters, has a great questline that takes you to amazing places with a lot of lore, and has +10% coomer bonus to popularity
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Me playing a friend
I think this works if they do anything but mash which is hilarious
>>486528893
He's really great
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>>486528973
actually there are several exceptions in your image
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>>486528989
>>486528989
What artist?
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>>486528916
Heavy it is, noted. Thank you.
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>>486528973
>>486528495
Like half of then point nowhere
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>>486525985
He's a faggot so I killed him. I didn't care about any other reasons
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New Shimhaq hotness
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>>486528973
anon only 3 out of 8 of the things you marked are actually being pointed to, and thats assuming you marked the directions accurately and like 70% of the astrolabes are going nowhere...
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>>486529119
Dunno why it's like that, Fire is almost useless except for fighting Malenia on a str build
Enjoy ruining people's lives!
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>>486528957
Katanas are an atheist's weapon.
M'lady.
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Malenia.
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>>486528957
Because katanas are for fedora tipping atheists and Miyazaki wants to laugh at you for using them.
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Concept: a bodyswapping fanfic where Rellana and a randomly-selected /erg/ Messmeryume wake up one day with their bodies switched.
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>>486526718
But he's faster than the hog's lunge during the charge, so he can outrun him when the pig attacks.
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i'm getting cooked
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>>486528495
>stone astrolabe
it's a hemicyclium you're referring to, aka a sundial
an astrolabe is something completely different
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>>486529195
CURSE YOU BAYLE
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>>486527713
I love you. How about that
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Is Bloodfiend's Sacred Spear worth a slab?
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>>486529540
Thank you. I'm just full of love today
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>>486528916
Is flame spear bufffed by Godfrey icon?
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>Swampwater doesn't build up madness
>Looking at/locking on the ageless untouchables doens't build up madness
>Practically no enemies, frenzied beasts don't attack or behave differently from normal

Why was Miyazaki so timid? It's probably his best looking swamp to date.
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I feel the Romina boss fight is underrated here. I thought it had a 10/10 OST, beautiful arena/animations, and a perfectly tuned challenge
Plus centipussy
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>>486529460
From have never been good at naming things properly, just look at their Glaives
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so whats the lore reason behind all the stone dildos sticking out of the ground all over the lands between and the shadow realm
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>>486529624
If you charge it, yes. Hits pretty fucking hard if the weapon and the projectile both connect
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>>486529640
This was the worst zone of the whole DLC easily. Feels like they just ran out of time with how completely barren it was.
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>Usable on all melee armaments."
>Dual poison Hoslows
>This on main hand
>Shriek of Sorrow on offhand
>DEX/ARC build
>Picket Misericorde for crits and Bayle's incants since they need 0 FTH
Finally, I can make a fun powerstance whip build.
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>>486529651
She deserved a cutscene, Gaius deserved a cutscene and a theme
>>486529691
Those mark where you can use spirit summons
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>>486526706
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>>486526046
weird how not every ending has a cheevo, poor dung eater
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>>486528989
>spoiler
hhhhhh
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>>486529574
it's way worse than mohg's
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>>486529881
You have NOT seen that artist you do not know what the aesthwtic is, you can't >hhhhhh that
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>>486529389
Try fire and frost pots
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>>486529739
It was one of the best looking zones in the game, but man it did feel barren. Also you were probably meant to be able to go behind the mansion but they cut it out.
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>>486529754
That ash is trash.
>jump in to air
>target keeps swinging
>since your in the air you can't fucking dodge
>take massive amounts of damage
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>>486530084
I was so positive there would be a way to go behind the mansion but I couldn't find anything. I was amazed that there was just a part of the map you flat out couldn't get to.
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Best fist/hand weapon for an arc build?
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>>486530179
it goes like ninety miles though so you don't need to be in danger to hit with it
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>>486529990
I can *imagine* though and sometimes thats enough
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>>486530179
Genuine skill issue, I've used it to PHENOMENAL effect. Stop using it in kissing distance retard.
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>>486530301
Ni you can't and no it isnt
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>>486530281
starfist
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>>486530295
I used it thoroughly. It doesn't have that much range
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>>486530281
Occult Star Fists are contender for literally best weapon in the game period
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As a mage, is Carian Slicer gonna be one of my biggest DPS spells in general?
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>>486530369
1. I absolutely can
2. You're trying to bait me into Messmer lustposting again aren't you
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>>486530447
Yep. Comets too.
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>>486526180
>BAYLE DREAD
???
>DREAD BAYLE
makes way more sense
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>>486530379
You definitely did not "use it thoroughly", as I played through the entire game with it and found it incredible in both PvE and PvP. The only place it falters is against rot/poison immune bosses.
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>>486530379
If you say so, I feel I can nail targets with it from way out of melee range personally
>>486530447
Yes
Comets will also be a mainstay
Swift Shard is your poke tool that goes really far and fast and does consistent damage for almost no FP
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>>486526706
impenetrable thorns saved my plant mage, thank you miyazaki
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>>486530485
Agreed 100%, I didn't make it though. I really wish the original artist would fix that.
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>>486530179
It's unironically one of the best ashes in the entire game.
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>>486529108
I just tried and sadly failed to find them, if I come across it again I'll post it here!
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>>486528707
It does been using it in arena for like a day. Eventually one shotting retards gets boring desu
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>>486530686
Does it work though? Like does it go by the weapon length? Or does your physical fist need to connect?
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>>486530594
Fixed version
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>>486530458
It's not a thing, and not explisitaneously, I'm just saying like unless we see the art I think you're just saying hhh to be saying it
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>>486530656
Well what art then?
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>>486530734
Goes by weapon length. That's why people used Katar for lifesteal builds before.
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>>486530737
>Vile Bayle
Not fixed, his name is "Bayle the Dread", not "Bayle the Vile". Just swap Bayle and Dread and then it's perfect.
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Reminder
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>>486526046
every souls game is extremely easy to plat, you just have to kill all the main bosses, collect important gear and get all endings, the trophies never ask you to do anything specific or hard
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so like is there a connection between rykard’s serpent and messmer’s
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>>486526706
Yeah sure I'm down.
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>>486530948
Rykard's was significantly more badass but no different snakes, though both are kinda evil as snakes in fiction often are
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>>486530810
Okay yeah that seems absolutely absurd then. God damn.
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holy fuck this thing slaps, can't believe I never tried it despite it being in the base game this whole time
>stance break in one art that costs almost nothing to use
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>No Crucible Knight Great Axe
>No Crucible Knight Dueling Shield
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>>486531090
Art takes too long to wind up and has no HA during. It's cute but honestly not that great. It suffers from Eochaid syndrome and unfortunately does WAY less damage than the Eochaid swords.
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>>486530858
yeah but some require weird npc quests and multiple playthroughs which is trickier
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Rykard's snake
>Big
>Evil
>Fire
>Wants to eat the Erdtree and probably the world
Messmer's snake
>Big
>Evil
>Fire
>?????
Does anyone know how to fill in the ?????, seriously we're told that him being tainted by the snake is a curse and bad and all but why? Is it associated with some supernatural force like Rykard's Worldeater Snake, the Scarlet Rot's Big Scorpion, etc?
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>>486531183
>Art takes too long to wind up and has no HA during.
You're right on the first part, but I'm tanking through all sorts of bullshit while charging just fine, I have 58 poise if that matters
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>>486531221
>>Wants to eat the Erdtree and probably the world
Man you are literally illiterate. The GOD-devouring serpent wants to devour the GODS. The game never once said it wanted to eat the fucking tree or the world.
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>No reconciliation with miquella in the DLC
>No Perfected Gold Alloy needle in the DLC being Miquellas ultimate goal
>No taking it to heal Millicent, restore Sellen, make Latenna and other albinaurics real human girls, restore Rannis flesh and blood body, unrape Boggart, hell maybe even purge the scarlet rot from malenia and the elden beast from marika

Fuck you Miyazhacki. Fuck you Miyachacki. Fuck you fuck you fuck you fuck you fuck you fuck you fuck you fuck fuck you fuck you fuck you fuck you fuck you fuck you fuck you
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Is it normal that by the end of a playthrough I feel nostalgic for limgrave and the brimming exploration of the early game?
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Is this the most fraudulent weapon of the DLC? I have started to use it and spam taunter's tongue to jump-delete thirsty invadesweats. I don't need any summon cuckolds to help me - I am the one man gank squad. It literally feels like cheating.
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>>486531312
>Game ends
>Everyone is dead, sky is burning and full of ashes
>Game start
>Lots of NPCs everywhere, everyone is alive, cool glowing tree
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>>486531254
51 poise is the first PvE breakpoint, which you meet, so yeah you'll tank a fair amount of stuff during. Just not EVERYTHING or anything big like a HA ash would.
>>486531312
Yes. The high points of the game are Limgrave and Leyndell. Everything in between and after makes you long for them both back.
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>>486531301
>Scepter in the shape of a serpent devouring the world. This
weapon will one day become the very symbol of the Lord of
Blasphemy.
One of the legendary armaments.

>A vision of the future briefly seen by Rykard in his final moments
before being devoured by the great serpent.

retard
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>>486531382
This is one of those things that whoever pulls it out first usually wins
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>>486531308
Never forget
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Gay guy here anyone wanna be my bf we can
Play elden ring together
Discuss elden ring together
I can show you my patches art
I can tell you I love you
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>>486531546
Sorry anon but while that sounds great I'm straight and only want to hear that from a woman. Good luck to you.
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>>486531402
Yeah I guess you're right
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>>486531546
Are you a tranny/femboy with a passing voice? If not I'm afraid forever separated we must stay
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>>486531546
i hate elden ring
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>>486531546
1000% you aren't built like my husbandfu Gwyndolin so begone
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>>486531308
>>486531464
I think ranni can't have a body anymore unless she becomes a god. Just like how godwyns soul seems unrecoverable I think any human body she's put into would just die, it's probably why, ontop of not wanting to pilot one of selivus's flashlights she doesn't inhabit one of his puppets like sellen does
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>>486531609
why would you want a high pitched female voice droning in your ear
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>cooping in stormveil with newbie hosts
>literally every single invader
>every
>single
>invader
>tossing a billion hefty rot pots
>munching sleep FP consumables
>kitted out to the tits in DLC gear
It's all so fucking tiresome.
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>>486531546
yeah dm me I'm @jeenine on youtube
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The DLC introduced two weapons I find so fucking fun I literally cannot use anything else.
>Fire Knight's Blood Greatsword (Spinning Gravity Thrust)
>Star-Lined Sword
These two swords have literally ruined the rest of the game for me. I have two characters with them, DEX/FTH/ARC for the former and DEX/INT for the latter and now every god damn time I try a different build using new or old weapons I get bored immediately. This sucks man. I'd love to play a STR build or some shit but there's no other fun weapons (to me) compared to these.
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Post your spell list
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>>486531546
can you post the patche4sw4s art anyways?
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>>486531308
Hey at least we got a dragon wife, so I'll forgive him
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>>486531546
No but we can be friends :)
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>>486531862
This was me with the Spear of the Impaler until I moved on to my next hyperfixation
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>>486531308
>>486531936
The only lore revelation I like in the dlc is the implication that godwyn had a spell similar to the one vyke has and the one the dragon gives you meaning he either made a dragon fall in love with him or fucked one. Possibly both.
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>>486531864
Not including the obvious buffslut spells that everyone runs :

Lightning Bolt and Black Flame were my bread and butter pre-DLC, after which I added Fire Serpent and Knight's Lightning.

I used Messmer's Orb a few times but it's not great. I was really disappointed when the game would not let me Messmer's Orb off the side of a cliff and land safely in the explosion. Game hates fun and never wants to let me jump off cliffs.
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I replay the game every 6 months but when I do I clear everything
I throughly explore and don't just rush the main dungeons
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>>486531862
>Carian marriage tradition has the wife give her husband a magic sword
>Normie marriages are oftentimes similar to elite marriages but significantly less fancy, e.g. instead of a grand reception in a ballroom it's friends and family, instead of a massive cake made by the royal palace kitchens it's a decently big cake bought from a bakery
>Sellen gives you a magic dagger and offers to let you live with her
Holy shit
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>>486531864
Knight's Lightning Spear
Giantsflame Take Thee
Black Blade
Ancient Dragon Lightning Strike
Great Heal
Golden Vow
Flame Grant me Strength
Protection of the Erdtree
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Is this a good stat spread? I plan on using arc/dex weapons with dragon communion incants
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What is it about this mask that attracts absolute douchebags
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>>486531864
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The game peaks during the nokron/nokstella/lake of rot section
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>>486532162
Most arc/dex weapons are better off just being occult and pure Arc but it's okay to play around with.

You will likely respec if you intend to do PvP.
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Does the ash scale with strength or faith? Also would the dagger talisman work? Would it even count as a crit?
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>>486532294
Put on some shoes BITCH
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>decide to do a cheeky invasion before quitting
>rune arc'd taunter's tongue poise-blob host
>middle of fucking nowhere in consecrated snowfield
>kill his summon
>he whips out bleed backhand blades and just starts spamming swift slash over and over
>try to be cute and parry it instead of just running away, spamming star shower, and baiting him into endure fully charged gravitational missile or something, get killed
>go to block him
>chink
Every time
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>>486532193
>what is it about the free 10% damage mask that attracts sweats

No idea (expect to see an intake of Mushroom heads now with Flower Blooms Twice being good)
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>>486532331
What spread would you suggest for pvp?
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>>486532294
My smug wife cannot possibly be this cute.
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>>486532193
metafaggotry at the cost of all dignity
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>>486531864
On my DEX/FTH/ARC build:
>Bayle's Tyranny
>Fire Serpent
>Knight's Lightning Spear
>Multilayered Ring of Light
>Ancient Dragon's Lightning Strike
>Frenzied Burst
>Blessing's Boon
>Golden Vow
>Black Flame's Protection (swapped out for other defense buffs as needed of course)
On my DEX/INT build:
>Adula's Moonblade
>Ambush Shard
>Stars of Ruin
>Fleeting Microcosm
>Night Comet
>Rock Sling
>Shard Spiral
>Greatblade Phalanx
>Terra Magica
>Loretta's Greatbow
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>>486532105
Carian royal marriages are like that. Unless that theory that sellen was a relative of rennala is true her giving you that dagger isn't meant to be marriage.
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>>486532446
The point of the White Mask is that you can slap it on any bleed setup to make it even stronger.
Poison needs specific meme builds to work, it's why Bleed Exultation + White Mask got nerfed in PVP but the poison gear didn't.
The new DEX Poison Whip is a more solid option for PVP anyways.
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>>486532054
I'm a big orb fan. It jumps over a lot, covers good distance, and is the biggest ape ever
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>>486531990
Nta but being gay and friends with a straight guy can be the worst thing ever. I feel like it's how straight guys who are friends with women feel sometimes. You grow super close to them or know they're keeping you at arms length out of fear of you being into them. If you get close you start falling for them or at least wanting to fuck them, you know pressing the issue will ruin your friendship and that they're just not attracted to you so you sit there and suffer in silence. You see them date and bang others and you feel like a massive fucking cuckold and you see them get cheated on or broken up with or sad because a someome rejected them and you know you'd never do that to them that you'd give them all the love they deserve but you can't because they just don't want you. It's torture.
>>486532641
What do yhe stats look like on your dex/fth/arc?
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With Elden Ring being a very Faith/Holy theme focused game. Do you guys think the next game will be more Intelligence/Magic theme focused to balance?
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>>486532916
aoe*
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>>486532989
what stats is ds1, 2 and 3?
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>>486532989
Sorry I was a bit distracted.
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>phase 2 Melania
>host immediately starts sprinting away from Scarlet Aeoni
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>>486531864
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>>486532989
Yeah we have confirmation that their next soulslike will be spellfocused. People call it spellbound but it's probably like project beast being bloodborne and it's not it's actual name.
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Miquella loved Radahn
Radahn loved Malenia
Malenia loved (you)
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>>486533118
why do you bother with both fire breath and agheel's?
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>>486533031
Demon Souls is Intelligence themed
Dark Souls 1 to 3 are both Faith and Intelligence themed
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>>486532985
>What do yhe stats look like on your dex/fth/arc?
This spread, currently RL200. STR is so I can 1h the FKGS on occasion which does come in handy, FTH and ARC are boosted to 36 and 49 for my incants via the Circlet of Light. I also use Millicent's Prosthesis to push DEX to 70 for the cast speed cap and some melee bonuses. MND is needed to cast all my buffs from a full bar, END is how much I need to carry all my shit. Could definitely go lower RL with it too but I like RL200, lots of activity and it's fun. I'm sure I'll make lower RL variants too though just to cover more ranges.
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>>486533243
Malenia loves you
Marika loves you
Rya loves you
Sellen loves you
Ranni loves you
Dragon loves you
Millicent loves you
Boc loves you
Blaidd loves you
Iji loves you
Turtle pope loves you

I'm not saying most of this is romantic many love you as a friend protector or comrade but it feels like the tarnished and ashen one are fromsofts most loved protagonists in their games.
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>>486533279
Because I had the slots for it and like having the option to use Agheel's Flame if I feel like jumping off a ledge. Dragonfire is cheaper and can be cast on horseback so I like it more for general use, if I even use breath attacks at all.
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>>486533589
Why no Theodorix dragonbro?
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>Anons discuss braids in a thread yesterday
>several youtube vidoes discussing braid lore Elden ring made 4-6 hours ago
hmmm
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>>486533635
I find it less useful than the other breath attacks desu.
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>>486533059
What's wrong with that? I always do the same thing. It's easier to dodge it when I'm already moving, I never get hit by it. Are these retards running AND getting spiked by it?
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I'm going to start reading Berserk, see if it's actually good enough for Miyazaki to have ripped off for over a decade
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Now that the great rune has broken.
What do we think about the Dragon Transformations?
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>>486534019
I like the Rock Heart one but wish the head was a separate transformation like in the other games.
I also wish the damage buff was a passive and that it had a quick bite attack or something instead.
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>>486531382
>see someone pull out this
>Sleep Bolts or Nananya Torch
>kill them
Sorry, not sorry.
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>>486534019
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Can you guys help me with a STR/INT build?
I kinda can't assemble it.

Early game:
Zweihander
Brick Hammer
No str/int weapons whatsoever lmao

Mid game:
Death's Poker (Death bullet. Shreds bosses)
Troll Knight's Sword?
Starscourge Greatsword (Main candidate, it's cool)
Ruins Greatsword?
Royal Greatsword?

End game:
Helphen's Steeple (First time even seen this sword, is it good?)
Fallingstar Beast Jaw (Endless damage)
Dark Moon Greatsword (The reason for this build existing at all)
Some dls weapons n' shit idk

How do I do my stats?

What spells should I use? Melee spells? I already have a perfectly working bonking stick.
Every time I try stich STR and INT together I feel like most of the spells are useless.
Loretta's Railgun will be cool i guess
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>finally get an invader that seems to be using level appropriate gear
>level appropriate weapons are doing single digit damage to him
Why is literally EVERYONE who invades cheating
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>>486534278
I never pvp but I see a lot of people complain about the torch. Why is it so hated?
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>>486531862
Me with the chicken wing and the bone greataxe, though at the very end I switched to a duped sword of light/sword of shadow because it fit my barbarian's look to a T and I always wanted straightswords that looked reasonably barbarian.
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>>486534281
>INTcel
>VIGlet
Name a more iconic combo
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>>486534281
>1144 HP in fucking Farum Azula
Viglets, when will they learn?
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>>486534019
A 20% damage boost at the cost of all your armor in a game swimming with damage boosts doesn't really feel worth it
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>>486531862
That fourth panel's really something else.
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had a dream that i had a dagger that could brick chinese (so-called) people's GPUs
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>>486534479
>Your Dollwife gives you a hanjob with her miniature onahole doll
Rannichads stay winning
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I never level my vigor past 20. I just killed consort radahn with a longsword and shield. Ask me anything
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>did mask man quest
>decide to go back to main questline
>ranni is not in her tower
what gives?
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>>486534350
try it yourself
go and invade and see what its like out there
youre not going to like what you see
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You like Rannis ending because you are a waifufag.
I like Rannis ending because she hates the fingers and ends a cult started by an alien invasion.

We are not the same.
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>>486534019
Not worth it at all. Even with blue dancer charm memes. Damage negation is HUGE in this game and so is poise and these make you trade both for some very meager buffs. They are Howl of Shabriri but WAY worse essentially.
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>>486534928
>Not liking her ending for both
Ngmi
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>>486534928
>ends a cult started by an alien invasion
Replaces it with an era of the moon, another likely slumbering out god influence.
She leaves the world with (you) to remove its influence but what if she ever came back, or if it wakes up?
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Hey quality bros, finally wanna take a quality build into the DLC. What weapons wuld you recommend there? Or am I better off just using this sweet baby all the way through?
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>>486535013
If the people left behind can't get their shit together in 1000 years they'll have to deal with it.
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>>486535079
bloodhound fang
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>>486534327
Most spells will be absolutely useless with low INT.
The Rosus Axe is a STR/INT weapon, and its Skill hits the hardest out of them all.
>Dark Moon Greatsword (The reason for this build existing at all)
Then I'm happy to inform you that STR/INT is absolutely terrible for that sword, just make pure INT.
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>>486534928
>>486535012
>>486535013
I like her ending because I'm a marikafag and we now know godhood is suffering. I give marika peace in death and ranni suffers for all eternity for hurting my wife unable to be replaced forever alone with only me to keep her company(I keep passive aggressively talking about how much I love marika to her)
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>>486535079
quality builds are trash even after the buff
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I want to keep parrying as an option for my guard counter build because I'm finding that guard counters are gay. Should I keep two sets of shields and weapons equipped or get a mid shield and some fat dex/str weapon?
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>>486535248
How'd they buff them hold on
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>>486535095
I wonder if the Elden Ring leaving would empower or weaken the influence of the other outer gods.
Fromsoft could make a sequal about how the world was even more destroyed with the abscene of the Elden Ring and each outer god making their own divine panetheon of demi-gods
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Slowly grinding away
Trying over and over again
Slowly getting closer and closer

I WILL beat Radahn, with no cheese
You were right bros, Deflective hardtear and Guard Counters are great, can't believe I have slept on this for so long
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>>486535310
they buffed the quality infusion and even at max level its worse than just putting blood on everything
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Bayle complainer back again, did I mention how dogshit his sound design is? It's just this low constant pad of "Grrggrgrrggrrgrgr" "GrrgrrgrrgGRgrrgrggrg" He might as well be completely mute because absolute silence is just as good as filler noise.
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>>486535013
The theme of her ending is “having your religion, moral compass and sense of direction ripped out is a terrifying path, now shit is up to you”.

The moons are celestial bodies which undoubtedly have influence, but we have no evidence of them having a specific agenda to overtake anything unlike Frenzy, Scarlet Rot etc. They are part of The Greater Will rather than being “Outer” entities.
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>>486535194
Fuck. Eh I'll just play full STR whatever
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>Go back to Dark Souls because its been so long
>Its genuinely more fun than Elden Ring
Wild. Remember when every enemy type was a threat you didn't ride past with torrent and stamina management was a thing?
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>>486535361
good luck cutie
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>>486535361
>Fingerprint
What do you mean "no cheese"
Learn to dodge like a man.
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>>486535341
Could be either.
Perhaps its a shitshow, or perhaps when there are no great rune bearers/demigods to corrupt and use to spread their agenda, they dont really have a way to influence the world.
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>>486535341
What makes the frenzy flame so powerful at the end is it getting its hands on the elden ring. It's likely they can still gain influence but they could never properly take over and get a total win. Instead of different demigods fighting it would be different outergods and their champions fighting for control. That is, if many of the outergods aren't just bitchsmacked in space by godkiller and his doll wife into submission. We know they aren't all that strong if a blind swordsman can seal one away and we beat the shit out of its two avatars. We just don't know really. That's the thing its up for your own headcanon so is the actual nature of the outergods whether they're more lovecraftian or sentient aspects of reality like old pagan gods or a mix like the chaos gods from warhammer
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>>486535013
>>486535457
The thing is the DLC confirmed the Greater Will already fucked off and the Two Fingers are just shitposting based off the noises Metyr makes when she jills off in her weird pocket dimension. So Ranni taking us away is kind of counterproductive when we could be staying in the LB helping fix shit
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>>486528916
nice, HTS are the best, and Queelign's has a pretty unique look
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>>486534928
I like Ranni's ending because it's one of the only two endings in the game that actually has fucking hope.
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>>486534019
I dont understand how they can be so bad at balancing. The form isn't worth it at all.
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>>486533852
You're supposed to run towards it retard
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>>486535560
No, fromsoft games are about running past enemies
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>>486535748
Never, not even once.
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>>486535606
Relying on roll spam with Heavy Load is suicide.
I still dodge to avoid his magical attacks however, but I'd opt to rely on blocking.

Also fuck you Fingerprint is not cheese if you're not shield poking.
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>>486535361
>with no cheese
>greatshield and scholar's shield
>And its the fucking fingerprint at that
Anon you're already using cheese. Extra cheese at that.
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>"R" and "L" noise in Japanese is the same
>Sellen
>Serren
>Jerren
>Jellen
What did Miyazaki mean by this?
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>>486535801
>Relying on roll spam with Heavy Load is suicide.
Why the FUCK are you heavy load. Are you retarded? There is a billion ways to avoid this. That includes wearing the heaviest shit possible.
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>>486535716
>retard
I literally just said I never get hit by it. Are you illiterate?
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The Stone Mask makes Sellen. She drops 2 tiers on the waifu list when she removes it.
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>>486535804
No I'm fucking not, Scholar Shield does not last the whole fight and Radahn wont give me a chance to reapply without punishing me for it. I simply apply it before entering the fight.

>>486535887
Because fuck Rollslop, Heavy Load or bust.
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>>486535695
>fuck were out of time what do we do
>just copy and paste some dragons or some shit idk man
>what about a reward
>here put in this cut content shit and add a % buff LOL the kevins will love it
>the kevins love it
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>>486535906
Because you're abusing movement boosting equipment you mongoloid
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>>486535716
You can easily dodge it running away too so who cares.

>>486535801
Greatshields make bosses way easier, fingerprint is the strongest greatshield by far. Shield poking is worse, but blocking and countering is pretty much just as effective. And with the giant crusher guard counters you're gonna be breaking his stance all the time too.
I mean play how you like, but you really aren't taking the difficult road here.
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>>486535939
>Im not cheesing!
>Plays like a fucking retard and is still trying to cheese anyway
You do you moron
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>>486535685
The whole point is you shouldnt have super powerful entities and divine interventions saving shit. Let people figure their shit out on their own. She moves souls, reincarnation, proof of the existence of gods and the elden ring away from people, and wants the natural and supernatural to be split apart.
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>>486532208
>8 slots
bro?
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>>486535801
>Fingerprint is not cheese if you're not shield poking.
Lol
Lmao
Hahahahahaha
>>486535939
>No I'm fucking not
Yes you fucking are, the Fingerprint is certified cheese. Most greatshields are arguably cheese but Moore's shield and the Fingerprint are ABSOLUTELY cheese.
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>>486535685
She was never anti greater will that was iji. Her whole point was similar to goldmasks but unlike goldmask it was driven by her selfishness. For goldmask these super powerful beings were shitheads but marika's golden order itself was a good idea and it should be altered to cut her out of it. For ranni it was these super powerful beings are shitheads but marikas golden order wasnt that good of an idea because she forced it onto other and man should make its own future away from hyperbeings.

Both have flaws, namely that someone can just kick our tarnished's ass someday and fuck with the elden ring again in goldmasks ending removing his rune
For ranni its that the golden order kept mankind together and a lot of people, her mother included most likely, will die in the upcoming chaos and scramble for power that will result in her removing things

That's the thing, none of the endings are flawless. But goldmask is still the best bet the only actual shitty endings with little to redeem them are frenzy flame, age of sorrow(dungeater) age of the duskborn.
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>>486535361
>fingerprint
Just use a normal shield and parry him if you want to make the fight easy but at least somewhat satisfying
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>>486535621
>hat's the thing its up for your own headcanon so is the actual nature of the outergods whether they're more lovecraftian or sentient aspects of reality like old pagan gods or a mix like the chaos gods from warhammer
I'd imagine they are more like the Great Ones from Bloodborn. Fromsoft seems to have carved out their own distinct verion from Lovecraft, celtic/germanic/ ancient polytheistic faiths and warhammer gods. They're very powerful and have great influence but can be sealed and even killed by 'mortals' if they're strong enough.
>We know they aren't all that strong if a blind swordsman can seal one away
True but despite being sealed a servant aste/race is still born to it (the pests) and the region its sealed in becomes an uninhabitable hell worse than Caelid. We've never see a region or place recover from Scarlet Rot and I don't its possible to recover from it. Similar to radiation but its influence is more malignant
What are the pests doing at the Lake of Rot, aside from praying to the Scorpion's Stinger made from the Outer god of rots body, can they lift/remove the seal, where or what is the seal? The very lake itself?
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>>486535972
>Because you're abusing movement boosting equipment you mongoloid
No I'm not? What the fuck are you even talking about? There's nothing in this game that boosts movement speed. Are you mentally ill?
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>>486535873
Note that seluvis also is certainly related to sellen as they're the only npcs related to either that has anything good to say about the other, have similar names, seluvis is around jerren's age and he has one of sellens back up bodies waiting for her.
They're all likely related. Sellen, jerren, seluvis. It explains why they're also seemingly so close to the carians they were close retainers or distant relatives of them. Essentially seluvis is ranni's creepy uncle
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>>486536148
Why cope to yourself like that?
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>>486535991
No I'm playing like a chad.

>>486536043
Dumb opinion but you do you.

>>486536148
>Parry
>Satisfying
I dont believe that, nailing 5 blocks in quick succession is pretty satisfying
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Why does bayle's phase 2 start so early any way? You proc it at like 75% health, and there is no downtime Even placidusax had downtime after his big lazer nuke. this dragon is 50 million times more fucking deadly than placidu how did he job lorewise?
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>>486536024
cycling through too many spells is annoying
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>>486534798
I do. Sure, you get a lot of shit, but the occasional good ones make it worth it.
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>>486536228
Whats the cope?
Parrying is easy, but not as easy as fingerprint.
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I think I accidentally a lot of the story in the DLC or it went over my head.
And I never got to do the green armor dude's quests, who thought it was a good idea to put Thioller so far away from Miquella's fan club? By the time I found him Greenman had moved on.
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>>486536245
I only went with the Ranni ending because Millicent dies
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>>486536245
Why are they all white
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patch today? please say yes
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>>486536252
You're playing cheese. You're not playing like a "chad" at all. Shields are for pussies, especially cheesy ones like the Fingerprint. A CHAD would ditch that shit shield and beat his ass with that big hammer alone.
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>>486536163
Rolling distance you coping newfaggot
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>>486536245
arr rook same
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>>486532431
what is it about the chinese that make them sweatlord tryhards that have a metafag mindset? is it a culture thing?
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>>486536371
I'm not using any of that fucking either you moron. I just sprint and know how long Aeonia takes to land and roll appropriately. Why are you so autistic?
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>>486536371
Mid roll is enough to completely avoid Scarlet Aeonia when running away. It's never been a difficult move to avoid, it's probably one of her easiest ones. Running under her is just a funny meme to make her miss completely.
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>>486536352
>Shields are for pussies
I used to think this until I tried a greatshield build (non-poke).
It's so much needlessly more difficult than just rolling everything, and boring on top of that.
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>>486536352
I disagree, shields are cool and nothing feels better than facing the boss head-on without relying on rolls spam.
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>Can't lock on to Bayle because he camerahumps your ass and deadangles you because of it
>Can't fight him unlocked because as big as he is he jumps from one and of the arena to the other constantly, making you play chase up with your camera when you don't even know where he jumped to
Bro I hit the fucking wall and I'm not even 30 yet, these zoomer games are way too ADHD for my boomer ass
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>>486536331
lol
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>>486536252
>shieldfag
>”chad”
The Lands Between has fallen
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>>486536569
Yeah not having to dodge feels nice and easy, true.
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>>486536595
You can happily keep your camera locked on him for all but maybe two attacks where it is better to unlock.
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>>486536245
This was drawn by a Chinese or a Korean person. If I'm wrong, I will eat Dung.
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did they add a way to track which pots you've already found in game or what?
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>>486536245
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>>486536547
Not that guy but, post webm because I've never been able by running away from it
I have to unlock camera and run towards the center/Malenia and then run past and roll
Running away and then rolling even if at the right time still gets me hit every time. If not by the hit itself by the bloom/after effect.
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>>486536495
The tl;dr is that yes, it's a cultural thing. They cheat everywhere, not just in games. They cheat in high school, in university, and in the workplace. The cheat others to enrich themselves, or to impoverish others. It is drilled into most native Chinese that there is always someone better than them, that life is one giant rat race against a hypothetical "other, better child", and that cheating is the permissible because it is "smart".

All you can do is block them and move on with your life, thanking the good lord that you weren't born Chinese.
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>Just hit Bayle's stump bro, it's his weakpoint
>Also Bayle:
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this general is not for answering questions but for trannys I see
makes sense
ywnbaw lmao
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>>486536702
Nope. Use 100% trackers
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>>486536775
That gif is midir actually (unironically even the transition into the laser and movements).
Also don't listen to the retards saying to hit his stump, you want to stay just in front of him and keep hitting his head, so much better.
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>>486530053
her first phase is somewhat lightwork with my kt, bloodflame blade, and mimic tear. but that second one is ass with the camera and insanely hard to skip ghost attacks.

i thought this would've been easier than the first time i played
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>>486536154
Thats true. My main thing is where they are exactly, it seems like it's a mix of two popular interpretations the "they're in outer space" and the "they're aspects of reality and in/on the world" I think its both. Some are in space their physical forms being celestial bodies, others being elsewhere in the world sealed away or manifesting as energy/within their followers like we see with rot god or frenzy flame as we now know even more than before its an outer god
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>>486536760
I'm the kind of retard that never unlocks.
I run a bit and wait for her to lunge, dodge it, then dodge a second time. I'm out of the bloom's range with that very consistently.
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>486536790
Type B behavior.
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>BRO I'M GONNA DO IT I'M GONNA BEAT RADAHN WITHOUT CHEESE!
>"Fingerprint is cheese dude."
>N-NO! SHUT THE FUCK UP! IT'S NOT CHEESE! I'M A CHAD! A CHAD!!!!!!!
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>>486536790
Ask your questions bridgekeeper, I'm not afraid.
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>>486536665
He goes over me though and the camera starts spinning in circles.
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>>486536550
>It's so much needlessly more difficult than just rolling everything
This, but this also brings a point been thinking lately.
Is not that Greatshield builds are hard, they are not (most of times, DLC as a whole being a huge exception), but rather, both being Heavy Load, due lack of roll spam AND stamina regen penalty, on top of using colossals.
Colossals are good but they are very fucking slow and have a lot of recovery time, and late game bosses often stagger you out of your swing animation if they hit you first, trading is not a possibility, if you used a smaller weapon, like a spear, there's no such problem, since you hit fast enough you cannot be interrumpted.
In PvP, people exploit my slow speed and just fucking spam rolls all the time to dodge my slow ass swings, which is fine I guess, it's exploiting a weakness, but being a fatass is very hard in this very fast paced game.

Radahn and Messmer being the most notorious examples of having few openings with colossals, and if you get greedy you will get severely punished by it. Partially a reason why Guard Counters are so good, since they come out extremely fast.
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>>486536882
It's just such a funny trap
You go in to hit the stump, he breathes fire and you're trapped by his tail so you can't run away.
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>>486536879
what's that?
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Can we talk about husbandos instead of waifus? Who's the best boy in elden ring in your opinion? To me its Boggart, he's genuinely kind, has nothing to do with the goings on just wants to grill, gives a good pve buff, and is handsome, nice blue eyes and is the only dark skinned guy I've ever thought was attractive and wouldn't kill if i could.
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>>486537071
https://elden-ring-progression-tracker.github.io
Upload your save here.
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>>486536980
If you see a Chad edit for something, it's basically a guarantee that the thing it's portraying as Chad-like behavior is actually just degenerate
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>>486536647
Wrong, Radahn's magical attacks will fuck you over if you dont roll at the exact moment.
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>>486536983
>Can't look up Radahn art without being bombarded by Radahn cuntboy porn
Radahnbros....
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>>486537127
I'm playing on goystation the fifth...
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>>486536245
>sameface
>samebody
>offmodel
ugh
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>>486537067
I do enjoy watching hosts and other phantoms constantly trying to hump his leg and getting hit by him spamming his downward fire breath time after time.
They really don't get what the game is trying to tell them and it's pretty funny.
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>>486537127
I don't want my steam hacked
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>>486537112
There is not much of them. I like Morgott he is sad and cool.

>>486537178
Anon I...
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>>486537112
no

fag
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>completed every base game zone
>missing 2 cracked pots and a ritual pot
FUCK
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>>486536963
>refusing to quote posts properly for your catty remarks
Your Type is Bpdemon and you need your holes stretched properly before you go back to your chatroom general that only serves as a battleground for discord celeb wars
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>>486537112
only npc i like outside hewg and patches
wish varre was even more of a dick
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>>486537275
95% chance they're in pot village or auriza side tomb
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>>486537208
I do wonder how rennala would react knowing what happened to radahn, him being turned into a zombie then being molested by her ex husband's son. She'd probably die instantly. I wish I could give her new kids kids that wouldn't be retarded
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>>486537275
huh that seems to be the magic number everyone naturally ends up with
>>486537219
no hackerz
or much fewer at least
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>>486537358
>Rape victims are retarded for being raped
Do you hear yourself?
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>>486537112
no wonder Dung Eater ass raped him.
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>>486537475
NTA but true
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>feel like invading
>it's prime chink hours
sigh...
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If I want to larp as Great Shinobi Owl in Elden, what's the set? I think Great Katana with Savage Lion's Claw obviously for his jump attack. Fan daggers instead of shurikens. Poison bottle for his poison attacks maybe?
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Why are from so afraid of guard counters anyway? Why do they need to end almost all bayle's combos in a quick poisebreaking jab? this happens to lots of bosses btw
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Kill the Hornsent
Kill my Children
Kill my Husbands
Kill the Elden Beast
Become Elden Lord
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>>486537707
What video game is that?
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>>486537707
yes my queen
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>>486536939
I'm not doubting you anon really. I just asked for a webm to see how its done because genuinely that never worked for me. Or, if it did, not consistently enough, so I did the other method I described.
I imagine your method has a tighter window so good on you for managing it.
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Do any of the DLC NPCs comment on you being Elden Lord? I realized I've gone in on my hoarder save that never chose an ending
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>>486537707
Kill the Jedi
Kill the Women
Kill the Children
Become Sith Lord
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>>486536980
>>486537132
The true Chad behavior is doing the thing without caring what other people think.
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>>486537691
You can only Guard Counter with shields
People that plays soulsgames consider shields to be worse than the fucking bubonic plague and nobody will use them

In reality Guard Counters are fucking cool and people would use it more if they were not restricted to shields, like Sekiro does
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>>486537707
Actually her grace points godfrey at you not the inverse. She wanted godfrey to kill you. Also we know that thanks to certain cutscenes replaying each and every time it's likely the tarnished first tried everything past fire giant. Possibly even before. The tarnished likely didn't actually die a lot to the actual bosses.
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>>486537984
This is incorrect.
Shields are very useful for my knight larp because without a shield equipped it just looks wrong so they play a great aesthetic role. Even if not used.
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Playing the DLC for the first time. I haven't heard anybody talk about this yet, but why does the game just randomly throw up these huge walls of obscuring fog? Who thought this was okay? These screenshots are like 15 seconds apart too, it's not even a gradual change.
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>>486538006
She wanted Godfrey to die.
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I'm going to go back and replay dark souls to compare the combat later today.
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>>486537059
>greatshield + colossal
That's a terrible combo.
Colossals work better when 2h(they have better block stats than most medium shields), when dual wielded for jump attack spam, or with a fast offhand weapon like a Cinquedea or Hand Axe(both have really good AR on a STR build and are faster than most weapons in the game)

I'd argue that even a 2H Greatshield is a better option.
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>>486537984
>You can only Guard Counter with shields
No???
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>>486537984
You can guard counter off of sword blocks if you use the new hardtear.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xy7kDuvxCMc
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>>486537984
thats just not true
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>>486536896
Ah I see. I also think its both, they are aspects of reality that can physically manifest as areas or within followers. Something that doesn't get any explanation from the DLC despite the Metyr revela, is what is the three fingers. Is it a chaos flame corrupted two fingers, or more ominously is it a physcial manifestation of the Frenzy flame made to LOOK like 3 fingers, because it knows the two fingers are a recognised autheority and its merely posing as the 'missing three fingers' to trick its followers.
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>>486537984
>You can only Guard Counter with shields
Bro play the game
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>>486537984
you can guard counter after any block
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>>486537984
>You can only Guard Counter with shields
You don't even play this game and it shows lmao
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Dueling Shields are the real chad weapons
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>>486538089
Cope. Tarnished canonically first tried most if not all bosses. She didn't want us at first but we beat her first choice to death and it made her metaphorical knees buckle and she had no choice but to submit to being our wife.
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>NPC bosses spam jump attacks
Was this the case in the base game or is Miyazaki just making fun of (You)
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>>486537984
when hear hear about the deflecting hardtear you'll shit bricks
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>>486538089
Nah anon the Grace of Gold is pointed at the player entering Godfreys/Morgotts Arena, not Godfrey
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All your lore questions will be answered in the Netflix series where Sellen is revealed to be black
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Will I become based like Radagon if I learn how to sew?
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You ever feel like the only person that thinks Godfrey is not guided by grace and that it's just Morgott's body disintegrating and it drifts towards you because it's the only direction that can show it clearly on the shot we see it in.
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>>486537984
>People that plays soulsgames consider shields to be worse than the fucking bubonic plague and nobody will use them
This is such a weird thing.
I played all of DS3 with a shield out of necessity and even on replays where I no longer need to do it, it's still incredibly strong. Obviously not to the level it's gotten in ER but still.
DS1 is somewhere between DS3 and ER.
Shields have never been weak. And that was the primary reason people argued against it back in the days of DS3.
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>>486538067
Probably loading an area, the DLC has crazy verticality.
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>>486538572
It's literally identical to grace. It's grace.
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>>486538089
Other guys are right. She wanted godfrey we first tried him and she submitted to us like the slut she is. This is why the elden beast pierced her womb with the rune of death, she was ovulating then and there
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>>486536245
roll
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>>486538572
The light when you absorb runes and the light from grace look different in game.
The light you see in the cutscene is identical to grace.
It's grace.
You picked a really stupid hill to die on
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>>486538756
Queen Marika's Elden Womb belongs to Big Tarnished Cock
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>>486538572
Are you the rya guy from the other day? The one that complained about not being able to sleep?
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>>486538901
Gay. Marika is a tranny.
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If I melted everything how is Melina alive?
And is it even me or did Shitbriri steal my body? My tarnished just collapsed
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Any tips for beating Mohg at low level? I'm trying to slip my low level invader into the dlc for some potentially cool gear that wouldn't fly at high level, but could function at lower levels. But I'm so fucking rusty at the game that Mohg is absolutely kicking my shit in.
I'm SL30 with a max weapon level of +4.
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>>486538572
From a directing perspective, it wouldn't make much sense to show the shot the way they did if that were the case.
The shot was framed that way to show Godfrey's grace pointing to you.
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>>486538756
>This is why the elden beast pierced her womb with the rune of death
Is that a shard of the rune of death or something else, what is the Elden Beast or her Radagon half that did it? Ensureing she can't brred even while crucified and trapped within the Erdtree is quite excessive. I guess that proves she could reproduce asexually and her hanging there for an epoch/age/a decade or two she could have had another demi-god child while hanging there
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>>486538067
There's periodically obscene fog not sure if it's to mask massive LoDs or overloaded shader compiling or if just another weather cycle
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>>486538901
Only those strong enough to claim it. There's actually a secret final boss fight where we overpower marika and plap her into submission.
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>>486538172
>Colossals work better when 2h(they have better block stats than most medium shields)
I'm pretty sure that's only true for that one colossal we all know
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>>486539005
You are a vessel for the lord of chaos.
You cease being you when your head melts, like midra
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>>486536693
bad news anon
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>>486539081
>Kill Elden Beast
>see this
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>>486539059
>she could've
Anon...want to know a secret? She did notice how all of her kids are cursed by some outer god or by a group she disliked/discriminated against. the reason we never see bocc's mother is because he's her son. It's why melina has special dialog with him. They're siblings but she isn't fully aware of it
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>>486539213
reminds me of the kid that played young anakin but grew up into being a total dirtbag
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>>486539005
>If I melted everything how is Melina alive?
Because she doesn't have a physical body. You can't burn a ghost.
>And is it even me or did Shitbriri steal my body?
We dont really know if it's the Frenzied Flame controlling you or an extremely "madness driven" version of you or something else entirely. Midra didn't help clear this up either.
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>>486539273
You burn every soul as well. Including torrent. You end all existence.
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>>486539017
i dont exactly remember what i did on my level 9 to clear it but it involved rot breath, fly pots, tiche, and the retard arcane helmet that gives you 8 arcane
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What do you actually do against Fire Golems these are possibly the most obnoxious tanks I've seen in vidya
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>>486539273
>You can't burn a ghost.
That's untrue. The fact you can burn ghosts is a thing. It's why Torrent hates the Abyss woods.
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>>486539273
Actually you can the dlc hints that spirits can be burnt by the frenzy flame which is why torrent is afraid of the frenzy tree area.
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>>486539273
Do you honestly think an old scholar like midra who spent his whole life in a Library basement would move that flamboyantly and confidently.
He literally rips his head off and it disintegrates into the sword.
The lord of frenzy takes over. The body is the vessel.
Same thing happens to you if you get molested by 3 fingers
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>>486539385
>>486539427
>>486539441
Well then I got no idea how she survived. Just FROM being FROM apparently.
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>>486539417
wild strikes on your biggest unga bunga
stagger 3 times
misericorde to crit the face
throw a hefty inferno pot into the basket on the way out

nothing personel kid
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How do we feel about the theory that the geq's eye was just sealed inside of melina much like marika did with her own sorseal and messmer's eye. And it was only sealed within her as a countermeasure to kill the lord of frenzy if a strong one ever arose?
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>>486525985
He let Radahn attack me and then proceeded to try and jump me. Whatever wrong he did or didn't do stopped mattering the second he decided to throw a punch without making absolutely sure it'd lay me out.
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>>486539471
That could also easily be explained as Midra driven to madness. We simply don't know anon, I'm not saying it's NOT the Frenzied Flame puppeteering him but there's no confirmation at all of what's going on.
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>>486539510
>throw a hefty inferno pot into the basket on the way out
you say that as if it will just register and not choose to do 0 damage
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>>486539607
why even go that far
marika would seal geq because geq's entire deal is death, literally the primary thing marika didn't want
it's the simplest answer
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>>486539724
its on the ground for like 30 seconds
this is a skill issue
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>>486539089
Most of the heavier Colossal and Colossal swords actually have pretty similar block stats.
On paper the Giant Crusher and Greatsword are higher than everything else, but once heavy infused they lose a bit of that so it evens out, while the Sombers can't be infused so they aren't affected by that.
But their guard counters hit the hardest, have the most hyper armor, knock down enemies and deal the most poise damage so it evens out.
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>>486539758
nobody said anything about time you illiterate retard
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>>486537475
Radahn was a warmonger who tried to storm the capital only to get his shit kicked in by an untrained hobo, Rykard became a degenerate and fed himself to a snake, and Ranni's Ranni. Her kids are retarded anon.
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>>486531183
it was patched like 6 months ago and is now fast and hits like a truck. its much better than eochaid dogshit dumbass
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>>486539262
>grew up
go find a picture of him all he did was put on a fake mustache
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>>486531423
>51 poise is the first PvE breakpoint
50+ poise is the first PvE breakpoint, the game doesn't display decimal values so if your stat sheet reads 50 poise there's a very high chance that you meet the breakpoint
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>>486539273
>>486539471
I have an idea, this may be stupid but what if, much like how the frenzy flame burns and merges all into one it does the same thing with its vessels, that you're essentially just swallowed into the frenzy flame outergod itself, burning away and fusing into it, whatever is left isn't you but is you. Essentially much like the werewoods or the god devouring serpent your consciousness is absorbed into a greater one and that shabiri is just it's preferred personality it uses.
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>>486539814
theres no problem with it registering period
learn to aim
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>>486539736
Oh I know, I'm just saying she sealed it within her and only tasked melina with letting that energy out in case someone frenzied out, otherwise it would burn away alongside melina.
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>>486537707
>Kill the Hornsent
>Kill my Children
>Kill my Husbands
>Kill the Elden Beast
These i'll do.
>Become Elden Lord
lolno. Fuck yourself Marika, the world was on a timer and it ran out the second my adorable and perfect wife Millicent died. May chaos take the world.
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>>486538959
No
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>>486538331
definitely my favorite DLC addition
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>>486539607
I'm still in the camp that the geq cursed Marika/Melina before being killed by Malekith.
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>>486538959
Why do you keep asking people this?
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>>486536245
my husband isnt there i dont care
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>>486539837
I have a theory about that. I think it's just a carian thing, that they're just prone to being mentally ill or autists, rykard is mentally ill, radahns obsession with godfrey is a little too much bordering on larping as the guy, rellana abandoned her family and people for some guy she had the hots for, ranni's reaction to being an empyrean was to fucking kill herself then become a god in her own way, rennala is borderline catatonic at this point after all that's happened.
I think the carians are just unhinged nerds with fucked up love lives.
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>>486538006
She wanted an elden lord, nothing more to it.
Only the strongest tarnished can be elden lord.
Your grace points to him, his grace points to you.
The one who comes out on top is elden lord.
A crown is warranted with strength
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>>486539908
Too high
muh fashion.
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>>486540235
I miss him I want to be his friend and make sure he gets enough sleep idk where he went i want to make sure he's okay.
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>>486539840
NTA but if you think it hits harder than Eochaid you're crazy my man. Eochaid is a literal cheese weapon, you can't do this with that sword.
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>>486540291
It is, I don't know why they thought it would be a good idea, and so many full sets of knightly armor don't even have that much so you still get staggered by hobo daggers
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>>486540334
We already are
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>>486540196
nta but my dumb theory is marika seducing geq and betraying her to take her power
in the process, geq's power is split between their kids, messmer get's the snake-y part and melina gets death
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>>486536245
Why is Nepheli the only one wearing a modest gown while everyone else is wearing a slutty version of a bride's dress?
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>>486539908
Why the fuck would you get 50 poise and -hope- you meet the breakpoint when you could get 51 and guarantee you meet it? That's retarded, anon.
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>>486540408
Are you getting enough sleep
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>>486540401
>tfw Rellana's chest piece with Carian arms and lets don't reach the 50 poise
It's dumb
It's a goddam fucking plate armor.
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>>486540442
juxtaposition of the barbarian warrior wanting to be a pretty princess
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>>486540475
Look at thw clock, what do you think?
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>>486536731
I can't believe Melina cleans his shaft with her mouth
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>>486540454
>have 50 poise
>go to limgrave and let a hobo smack you in theface
This is too much effort nah man scrap the whole thing start over I need to see 51 poise

Just who are you calling retarded?
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>>486540536
You need to get some sleep anon. I love you.
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>>486540374
>L2 buffed by the dancer's set because it's a "dancing blade"
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>>486540291
I'm personally of the mind that with the DLC, 51 poise and good fashion is very doable. That said the system is still dogshit. It's incredibly silly that anything between 0 and 50 poise is the same as having 0 poise.
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>>486540656
>51
50*
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>>486540623
Im fine, but I love you too
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For all the hype he got in the trailer and reveal i expected something abit better than "i sit in da room". Fucker barely has a presence in the DLC

Anyway, how do you dodge the move where he stabs into the ground and multiple spears come out? I can consistently get him to phase two but i just can't seem to dodge that move. Even if i rolled backward i just can't seem to get far enough away from his spear range
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>>486540374
It's nowhere as strong as the drill blades, but it has a ton of hyperarmor and one of the highest amounts of poise damage out of any ash in the game, it also knocks smaller enemies down when charged and has a lot more AOE making it way easier to use in general play.
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>>486540374
Isn't the marias better for that
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>>486537112
Basic bitch answer but it's what it is/I'm what I am
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>>486540717
Dodge towards him with good timing, you avoid the spears and get a punish.
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>>486540642
Yeah it's extra cheesy now but seeing as Eochaid has ZERO HA, I don't recommend wearing the full set. You're gonna need some poise with it unless you can get your mimic or someone to tank like I did in that webm.
>>486540691
I don't know why you keep spouting this. Again getting 50 poise and hoping you meet the breakpoint is really silly. Just get 51.
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>>486540656
Love that chest armor, but I can't justify using it because every single cunt I invade has a Sleep Crossbow ready.
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>>486540515
I fuck heavy with this, thanks anon! Literally my favourite thing. Nepheli is my number two, so this is even better!
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>>486535879
Based Dragonmaw enjoyer
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>>486540705
I'll call you thiollanon due to your sleep problems.
>>486540717
I just sprint away.
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>>486537112
>genuinely kind
He robs Rya, which she deserves it but it's not like he would know that
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>>486540253
admittedly we know next to nothing but rykard didn't seem that crazy before he snakemaxxed
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>>486540743
No, Marais has like ~15 more AR and synergizes worse with FTH/ARC builds for buffs, resulting in even lower AR overall and a worse moveset. The Marais is fine, but Regalia is better.
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young tarnished do you wish to shed this order?
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the worst players I PVP with are ukrainians and it's not even close.
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>Crucible Knight pancakes through endure
h-h ack
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>>486540781
It'll get nerfed soon enough I'm sure. No way they intended for the shotgun crossbow to proc instant status on every damn blast. I'm avoiding PvP entirely until we get a balance patch personally.
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>>486540958
1. Chinese
2. Russians
3. Ukrainians
4. South Americans
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What IS the best combo/option when you land a sleep crossbow hit?
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>>486540772
Why did you ignore my other post that proved just how stupid your logic is? I would also like for you to come up with a combination of armor that has 50 poise and doesn't meet the requirements, since it would have to have exactly 50 poise and not any amount between 50 and 51.

Go ahead.
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Pvp is starting to sour me on Fromsoft games. The playerbase is just so unutterably toxic and caught in an arms race cycle. EVERYONE cheats. EVERYONE twinks. You get hefty pot spammers in Weeping Peninsula, for fuck's sake.
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I started a fatroll greatshield run.
I must say, shields are worse than I thought.
Fighting the crucible knight gaol in limgrave, even with barricade shield the fucker will still deplete my stamina in 2-3 hits.
I guess I'll have to dump STR for manor greatshield asap.
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>>486541019
where do you farm sleep bolts for that?
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>>486541019
Sleep Fist Explosion. A lot of people have used it on me. Thankfully I'm not a viglet so I've survive it, if only barely each time and managed to turn the fight around. But it always seems to do like 1.6k dmg.

>>486541103
They don't. They cheat them in. It's fucking annoying.
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>>486541082
why are you pvping in weeping penisula? get to the dlc man
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>>486541028
How the fuck am I supposed to do that when we don't know the exact poise value on every piece dipshit? You're proving my point that it's better to get 51 than to fuck with this.
>JUST LET A LIMGRAVE SOLDIER SMACK YOU BRO
Those aren't doing exactly 50 poise damage. You'd need to find something that does for this test.
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>>486540656
You know what upsets me, the actual gold of the crown fits a fair amount of armor sets. But the fucking glow ruins it so I can't use it for any fashion I'm stuck with the fucking aristocrat crown
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>>486541152
Does it really hit that hard? I've gotten hit with the sleep fist before and i've never seen it do that much damage.
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Just wanna grab a couple things from the dlc before doing the rest of the main game, anyone wanna help some rl80 beat mohg? I can give you a one-per-NG weapon if it sweetens the deal. I got a Nagakiba, Poleblade, Bloody Helice, Naginata, Moonveil, Uchi, Bloodhound Fang and a Reduvia I don't mind parting with. Using the erg password and sat outside
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>>486541103
Bold of you to assume anyone actually farms in this game
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>>486541201
I'm co-oping with a friend. Every single invader we've encountered has been just... awful.
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>>486540515
i like that a lot but desu it doesn't feel that in character for her
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>>486540885
Can you give me a good build to get the most use out of it? Not too experienced at multi stat build making I've only done pure builds.
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>>486541082
It's definitely the worst it's ever been. I avoid it almost entirely now. I co-op a lot because I like helping people but I have a lot of cheesy shit on my build just in case or more accurately, when we get invaded by some guy using broken bullshit. I can't exactly blame the reds though, as I WAS one myself, and it's insane how bad it's gotten. Once I started invaded Discus Throw Spam at the same time as Sleep Spam, I just decided I had enough. 2000 Hours and I'm done.
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Hm, indeed. You juxtapose cocks in your ass.
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>>486541263
Booting up my N64 right now bro
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>>486541223
You are not only retarded with your flawed logic and fail to seethe point, but apparently clueless as well. You don't even know how poise works in PvE.
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>>486541234
The glow can be a bit annoying in certain lighting, but I like it with dragon eyes. Looking at my character straight on in cutscenes is nice. I would remove the glow if I could but overall I'll take it as is rather than use a different headpiece. It'd be nice if we could "alter" it like other equipment just to shut the glow off but FROM would never be that nice.
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>>486541082
The core of the problem is not on the playerbase, it's on the game.
It's a mix of the way the TT works and the way Password Summons scale that creates a putrid core in the invading experience for both sides.

If you invade near and far you WILL be sucked in a ganker/duelist's world no matter how many millions of people are playing.
If you invade a regular player cooping with a friend that already finished the game he WILL have giganigga stats because downscalling doesn't work

Guess what happens when you gear up to deal decent damage to that password phantom that is either part of a gank or just a random dude playing with a friend?
Every single host and regular phantom will get one shot by you, so you contribute to the shittiness of the online experience even if unwilling.

From 100% did that themselves, the crafting system being extremely restrictive to anyone but cheaters is just the cherry on top of the cake.
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Niggers at level 273 be like "hey guys are my stats ok?"
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>>486541019
blood bolts for less stat investment. i can't remember if the arc scaling on status bolts is worth levelling arc for but if it isn't then just go with 80 vig and 80 end instead of levelling damage stats since the crossbow has no scaling.
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>>486540374
This is all well and good but there are very few bosses where you can get a fully charged drill in.
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>>486541223
Go let one of the trex dogs in caelid charge yyou or pick a fight with one of the bigger farum beastmen or something man. There's no shortage of hard hitting enemies. That or test it with someone in the arenas.
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>>486541459
Why are you talking like a nigger?
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Did they make bows fun yet. I'm considering a bow only run
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>>486541450
they didnt event try with this one
not even a rune arc shop or anything
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>>486541450
That doesn't excuse feeding into the vicious cycle though. "The system is making me do it!" No, the system isn't making you be a toxic asshole in DLC gear who throws hefty rot pots at people in starting gear in the starting zone.
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>>486531689
Gwyndolin snake blowjob...
Just imagine, Gwyndolin blowing you and twenty snakes fighting to touch your dick.

Imagine a full snakejob where the snakes fight eachother to take your full cock just imagine...
Snakejob! Cute snakejaw! Cute SNAKES!
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>>486540876
Rya actually deserves to be my wife bearing our horrific half snakeman half human kids constantly swapping forms for my sexual pleasure. She unwittingly sure but still got a lot of people eaten by rykard. She has to make up for the lives lost by creating more life, and as the one who slew rykard and witnessed the horror she aided in, it should he me who's constantly impregnating her.
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>>486541101
First off: https://eldenring.wiki.fextralife.com/Gilded+Greatshield
This is the GS you should be starting, it's overall the best one you can get with best stats and highest Guard Boost. It's annoying to farm so try to get some silver folk item that boosts item find.
Then you can try getting Redmane Greatshield for blocking fire damage, and Eclipse crest greatshield to block magical damage.
Leyndell Golden Greatshield is the best against holy and does okay'ish against lightning, you can get one of these early in Liurnia but those are even more annoying to farm.

Second, you DO NOT fuck with Crucible knights, they hit extremely fucking hard and you wont be able to handle them early game, at most, you will be able to handle them use you get to use Scholar's Shield. Braggart's Roar helps a lot too due the damage, stamina regen and physical damage reduction. If anything else, guard counter should help a little.
Stack as much stamina, stamina regen and guard boost as humanly possible.
Being a fatass is genuinely hard in this game and I'm amazed so many people here believe otherwise.
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nvm beat him lol
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>>486541356
It scales better with ARC than DEX. Just get enough FTH for your buffs (33) and dump everything else into ARC up until like 60, then you can toss points into DEX instead, when you notice more AR from DEX than ARC in the stat screen thats the time to pump DEX. I forget the tipping point but it will be mostly ARC. Don't forget your 60 VIG though. Keep in mind this is a cheese build though, the Eochaid swords are awful outside of their L2s and their L2s are awful without a VERY specific talisman, buff, and flask setup. You're going to want:
>Millicent's Prosthesis
>Rotten Winged Sword Insignia (cannot get both this and the Prosthesis in the same run, but there's a regular Winged Sword Insignia you can use instead until NG+)
>Shard of Alexander
>Godfrey Icon
>Thorny Cracked Tear for your flask
>Golden Vow and Howl of Shabriri
Enjoy one shotting some bosses and 2-4 shotting the rest of them provided you can get the L2 off.
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>>486541263
My net is shit right now but we'll see how it goes, placing my sign now
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>>486540882
From what little we're told, can read, or see, it seems like he started off as a legitimately cool guy and became more and more depraved, becoming lord of blasphemy then in his madness fed himself to the snake fusing with it in some way. I honestly think his apperance is somewhat of a reference to Leto ii from dune. Even the little legs sticking out reminds me of Leto.
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>>486541736
Good job anon
Now do Ordovis and his GF, you will have fun with that one
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>Literally me fighting Messmer

Why does this nigger have to jump around so much?
>9 out of 10 times i got hit is because Messmer used some huge ass special effect and cover the entire of my screen so i can't see shit

Thank Miyazaki, very fun
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>>486541579
It literally does though. I've been on both sides and I know how bad it is for both sides. For Reds, once you've invaded your tenth gank in a row where groups of players use the most cancerous shit around spamming long range bullshit at you infinitely, you go one of two ways, you either quit like I did, or you become just as cancerous to help you deal with the insanely unfair odds. Then you have those types of players who invade with their bullshit and get the rare normal PVE host who just wants to play the game with their friend and they get destroyed by some giga nigga who can one-shot them. One too many of these reds creates a ganker or at least someone who looks up the most toxic shit to deal with reds like this.
But again, this is more of a chicken and egg situation. In any case, it's the games fault for creating such a shitty situation all around.
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>>486541515
Just get Mimic to tank them dude, it really isn't that hard. It's only a problem on some DLC bosses who like to ignore summons or jump around like cracked out freaks. As far as base game goes? You can drill everything that isn't Maliketh in my experience. Even Malenia P2. Scarlet Aeonia is perfect drill time if you run in near the end of it.
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What is your opinion on my build?
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>>486541898
way too much fucking mind
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>>486540656
I somehow always end up with not enough
Like I said, Rellana's chest piece combined with the carian knight's gloves and carian knight's boots is 24 + 11 + 4
That's not even 40 poise. No helmet would cover the rest.
The carian gloves/greaves are just so fucking nice looking and fit so many fashions I like, that it's hard to find something else.
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>>486541898
>50 MND
Holy shit nigger what are you doing
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>>486541561
>shortbows
there's a shortbow that has barrage with tracking as the skill
>bows
there's a bow with a skill that lets you shoot multiple arrows at once like legolas for good damage. has a wide range.
>greatbows
there's a slightly different version of through and through and an infusable bow that scales C/E str/dex instead of D/D like the normal greatbow has.
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>>486541590
Anon I'm gonna let you in on a very unpleasant truth. Some snakes have a double row of teeth on the top jaw and a single row on the bottom. Depending on the species each row can have somewhere within the ballpark of several dozen teeth. They curve in a manner similar to fishhooks, i.e. they dig in and only go deeper if you try to pull away. A snake blowjob would spell ruin for you in ways human language is incapable of articulating.
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>>486541898
38 Mind should be the limit. Put the remaining points into Int up to 80. Put the rest of the points into either END or STR / DEX depending on the weapons / armor you use.
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>>486541898
it's shit
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>>486541579
the beatings will continue until from improves the situation
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>>486541691
You get it. She wants death when she realizes her origins and what she's done, she wants to die or if you spare her she goes soul searching. For her sins she should be hunted down and carried back to the lands between and wed to the tarnished. As you've said, she needs to birth more life to make up for those she unintentionally fed to her father.
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>>486541870
>it literally does though
>proceeds to list a lot of shit that does not force him to not take two seconds to look at the newbies he's about to shit all over and maybe decide not to shit all over them
Yeah you're just trying to justify being an asshole in an online game.
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>>486541898
what the fuck are you doing
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>>486541964
Like I said ideally I'd like the system undone. My other build is over here: >>486530956 and while I like his fashion, I would change the legs if given the chance. They match well enough but honestly I'm using them simply because they push me to 51 poise and look fine. I like the outfit don't get me wrong, but I'd like to use Loretta's greaves here instead.
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>>486541870
It's pretty easy to notice the damage of ER's system did to the multiplayer.
Themed builds and cosplay invaders more or less died completely when compared to older games, at best you get minmaxed themed builds now.
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>>486542000
they released the cerulean +1 seed talisman so you don't need 38 mind

>>486541984
>>486541940
seed talisman

>>486542027
ok
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>>486542185
why the fuck would you use a talisman for FP?
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>>486541406
Its a real shame you can't keep the dragon eyes if you go to mohg's place before the haligtree.
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>>486536245
i like to think rya got those clothes out of tanith's closet and doesn't realize they're lewd
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>>486542027
>was going to make a retarded false flag reply
>OP made an even more retarded one before I could >>486542185
dude...
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>>486542027
>26 END and 38 fucking MND
Shove 4 MND into END for the stamina breakpoint. You don't need 38 god damn MND here either.
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Rate the Rouge fashion bros
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>>486542153
I mean I really dislike those legs on that armor sorry to say.
And really it's just the values make no sense.
How exactly is Rellana's armor NOT higher poise.
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>>486542185
How many spells do you need to cast dude? It's not worth wasting a talisman slot just to get more FP per flask, just slot more flasks lmao
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>>486542227
Yeah it's a bummer. I'd like to be able to choose which eye alteration we use. That and I'd like to be able to turn eye alteration on in just one eye rather than only both.
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>>486542257
Yeah that 5 stamina difference REALLY changes things. Shut up moron.
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>>486541713
Thanks, I knew about eclipse shield, I'll get the other three, sucks they all require farming but oh well
It's certainly an interesting run so far, but I'm surprised how slow/heavier enemies stomp me. On the plus side, killing lighter enemies like dogs and pages has never been easier.
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>>486542138
>>486542156
Your conversation reminds me of this meme.
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>>486542295
>Rouge
Did you hear about the gang of rouges who broke into the makeup factory? It was a masscara.
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>>486542295
You look like a fag and your shit's all retarded.
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>>486542138
I've had tonnes of people pretend to be new. Tonnes of people pretend to not notice me when I invade only for me to walk into a trap. People pretend to be "friendly"
No. I don't trust you or anyone else in this game. The second I start winning 90% of the time someone pulls out a Sleep Crossbow or Backhand Blades. It's so common it's something I now plan for.

No, you can go fuck yourself. I'm glad you and your faggot friend are getting shit on. But I don't PVP in this garbage shit anymore anyway. It's trash for all the reasons both you and I listed.
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>>486542295
uhhhhhhh (bad joke about the color red) AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH
looks fine
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>thoughts on my build?
>your build fucking sucks, here's how you fix it
>it doesn't need to be fixed, it's actually good
every single time
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>>486542295
solid classic rpg thief
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>>486542353
she had a rivers of blood in her hands and a radahn helmet
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>>486542334
I know in one of the last patches for ds3 they added plumes to the armors that desperately needed it like orensteins. I hope though I know it won't happen they add in a way to choose which alterations you want to display and to shave godfreys hair off of the elden lord crown.
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>>486542295
I don't see big orange tits anywhere, bad Rouge fashion.
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>>486542341
The difference between 34 and 38 mind is just as minor. You're really stupid. Even 34 mind is LUDICROUSLY excessive. My carian knight build uses this spread and does great. Note that I have Millicent's on so it hits 70 DEX.
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>Rune arc'd grace duelist fishing for some sort of Rosus Axe true combo so he can put me in the YouTube compilation
>refuse to walk into his retarded setup
>shamelessly star shower / slicer him to death
Not today, faggot
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>>486541998
I know anon however my counter point. Divine gay snakes perfect for blowjobs. Besides those snakes are from a feminine boy, they are incapable of harming men or penises. I rest my case.
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>>486542403
Anon when people as for input here they aren't actually asking for critic, they just want asspats. It's like a kid expecting you to call them an artist because they made a macaroni art smiley face and only ate half of it.
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>>486542440
HOST OF FINGERS WAS 15
HE LOVED TO PLAY THE L2STICK
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>>486542524
>18 mnd on a caster
>11 str for 0 weapon variety
you're fucking hilarious
38 mnd is how much you need to gain the full benefit of cerulean flasks which restore 220 at max level, that's why people go 38 mnd on casters
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>>486542185
how are you this stupid
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>>486538067
its so your pc or console doesn't explode cause elden ring doesn't have nanite. good luck making anything even remotely close to this game without fog, they've been doing this since silent hill (ps1)

>please wait 60 seconds while the feds trace your IP (just to even post)
why is this allowed
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>>486542543
I'd argue the divinity makes it so the harm they do also comes with some wacky ass greek tragedy tier curse.
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>>486542627
>>18 mnd on a caster
It's clearly a hybrid, that's what carian knights are anon.
>>11 str for 0 weapon variety
Why do you need weapon variety? Get the bare minimum for what your build is using and move on, that's just wasteful.
>38 mnd is how much you need to gain the full benefit of cerulean flasks
Which is insanely excessive unless you're playing a pure caster, which a carian knight build is not.
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What flavour is Miquella's bussy?
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A question about Miquella's charm being broken. Are you ever told about it before it breaks? It broke and I'm talking to the NPCs, they all seem to be talking as though you should know exactly what happened. Well, I do know exactly what happened, so they're not wrong, but I wonder if it's explained in clear words, that Miquella had charmed everyone.
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>>486542732
What the hell is wrong with you?
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https://steamcommunity.com/profiles/76561198058812142/
Feel free to block this person
>ganking in that one fort in Caelid at level 150
>rune arc
>summoning blues
>tried and failed to chainsaw me
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>>486542836
Why did you respond to my post with something unrelated to it?
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>>486542732
wheat oatmeal cookies obviously. Just look at his any of his art
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>>486542725
You're welcome to use your garbage build, but don't go around acting like some authority with your shitty advice.
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>>486542907
Right back atcha big man.
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>>486542897
Why are you the way you are?
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Based on what we know of his temperament Miquella's likely a vegan of some sort. He probably shits neat little herbivore droppings and doesn't need to wipe.
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Is there a reason why storm blade is allowed to do such disgustingly high damage for basically no FP cost or cast time?

I thought it was glitched when I first equipped it.
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>>486543079
his diet consists entirely of radahn's cum
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>>486543136
>How much testosterone does Miquella's body actually have?
Trick question, it increases after Radahn's done with him and decreases when he farts.
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i wish you could assign spells/incantations to staffs/seals to use as their ash of war
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pata/katar running attacks should cost atleast 5 times more stamina
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>>486543350
Katar ain't shit but the pata are fucking absurd. The only real thing holding the pata back is the fact that they don't have access to any good ashes.
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>invading for the first time in forever
>remember winning
>forget the part where i actually had to play intelligently to win
3 people standing at the grace? Better give them an honorable 3v1 in an enclosed space with no enemies. Maybe I'll just block myself into this narrow corridor with absolutely no way out even though my build is squishy and doesn't even have a good get-off-me option. That seems right, yeah.
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3v1 blender?
>pulls out the chainsaw
I am the 1v3 blender.
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Where is 3 and 4? This is getting on my nerves.
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>>486543412
i feel like using any weapon other than pata in invasions is just gimping myself, the TTK difference with a pata vs something like a greatsword is insane
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>>486543079
>>486543136
His diet is entirely radahns cum
Radahn eats space rocks and his cum is full of special nutrients
He tried getting malenia to try but she refused
Radahn traveled to caelid and didn't leave miquella some cum for him to consume. Miquella having withdrawals lost it and demanded malenia bring him home.
Radahn refused as he was tired of miquella using him as a cow
Malenia fought him and accidentally rotted everywhere
Miquella learning this quickly mindraped mohg to see if his cum was better
It tasted better but wasn't as addictive or nutrient filled
Miquella hatched his plan to put radahn in mohgs body for tasty and nutritious cum
He wanted to become a god solely so he could be large enough to properly milk radahn of his cum using his long godly fingers to massage his prostate
The whole age of compassion thing was a lie to hide his true goals.
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>>486543493
>needing cheats to win
pathetic
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>>486543532
Feimsoft literally said it was intended
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>>486543532
>Using something that's been in the game since launch and which the devs have chosen not to remove to win = pathetic if you're an invader
>Doing the same thing as a host with two faggot phantoms cheating through the entire game by turning it into a cutscene + walking simulator = not pathetic because you're a wholesome chungus jolly cooperation :DDD
I chainsaw for niggers like you
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>>486543674
and there it is, the cope, not skilled enough so justifies it by saying the other side is cheating, reds are so predictable
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Whips are really cool because you can hit multiple enemies with it.
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>>486542725
38 is only excessive if you are still limiting yourself to low levels
22/23 is a good medium range. but you might as well hit the cap

remember when it was 50 vig, 40 end for stamina and your damage stat? those were the fucking days, now its like, no one knows what the fuck they're doing.
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Bros, to summon Hornsent for Messmer or not, help me decide
I don't care about rewards, I just want the better, nicer ending for the NPC quests
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>>486543767
>Redman isn't skilled enough to 1v3!
>Hostfag is "skilled" when he refuses to budge from a safe spot and sends his overleveled CheatEngine bodyguards after you on repeat
I hope I've chainsawed you in the past
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>>486543867
he fucks you in the ass regardless
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>>486543867
You kill him no matter what it doesnt matter
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So is Rellana technically Messmer's aunt?
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>>486543867
if you kill messmer with him he invades you and if you kill him as he invades you he won't fight by Leda's side.
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>>486543895
sweet and sour tears
do you think the host and his friends cry when you have to resort to literally cheating to beat them? no, you only feed their ego as they laugh at your pathetic existence
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>>486543931
>>486543935
>>486543950
Motherfucker
I guess I'll enjoy the solo boss fight then
Never trust a hornsent
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>>486543674
>been in the game since launch
Look I hate hosts as much as the next guy, but this is shitty reasoning. FROM are incompetent as fuck at patching things and they NEVER EVER fully fix something. They put bandaids over them. The whole Nanaya Torch Death Blight thing was just an extension of an older exploit that was "fixed" except they didn't fix it, they just stopped the interaction with two specific weapons. Hell, the combo casting with Catch Flame is still possible with a few different incantations despite them saying they fixed it.
There is a reason people meme on Japanese Spaghetti coding.
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>>486543960
I'm realistic. Because From pozzed itself to cater to normies and put bonfires 10 seconds walk from each other, me killing them doesn't even delay them. But it does make them seethe, and I know this because cooptrannies like you start melting down whenever the possibility of you getting chainsawed gets mentioned
>AIIIIEEEE NOOOO NOT THE HECKIN LOADING SCREEN, I HAVE TO SPEND ANOTHER HALF MINUTE GETTING SUMMONED TO HELP SOME CLUELESS FAGGOT TRIVIALIZE THE GAME AAAAAAAAA NIGGERZAKI SAVE MEEEEE NERF REDMAN MORE ITS LITERALLY CYBERBULLYING
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>>486544007
There's also an option to fight for or against him with Leda. Just get summoned near the part with a bunch of Shadow militia if you haven't already. If you side with him you get a busted ash and a rune and if you side against him you get a talisman that boosts rolling and backstepping attacks.
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uuuuuhhhhhhhhhhhh
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>>486544181
A question about this, specifically. If I side the the Hornsent, do I get locked out of dialogue with Leda?
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>>486544202
awooooooooga
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>>486542537
>laggy fastroll rune arced tauntie summoning blues while clearly fishing for poleblade of the bud finishers
>i just dumpster the entire team not unlike taking the trash out
I love Shadow Keep so much.
Stormveil tier location for invasions
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>>486544282
Excellent
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>>486544154
nta, but I was going to post a dumb greentext misrespresenting you just like you did that other guy.
But I'm tired and frankly what's the point.
I just question you're willingly engaging in what you must know is disingenuous arguments and posts. Abusing glitches is a bad thing. The fact players might have (which you can't even prove) used CE to spawn in items does not alter your own wrong actions.
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>>486544282
>stormveil tier location
Not really. It's got so many separate locations it's fucking annoying. I get why, multiple bosses but fuck... It was so close to being perfect. But each zone is kinda small without any really tough enemies.
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>>486544282
you can use that WA without the stat requirements??
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>>486544282
Well done redman
>One of them is actually named Guts
Always a pleasure killing one of them
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>>486544251
I sided with the Hornsent during their fight and she disappeared from the spot you normally find her. Considering that you get her rune she is probably dead or hiding somewhere.
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>>486544282
It's saddening that stuff like this is one of the only ways to deal with gank squads now.
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>>486544282
How did you use starcaller cry when you can't actually equip the swords? I see that red X you HACKER.
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>>486544460
wondering this now myself.
out of all the weapons in the game ive never used radahns (too high str while int) or somber quality shit (godricks/godfreys axe)
but I might respec my INT tank guy into a "dark" gravity caster w radahns + onyx lord (push pull) because im bored of ice spells and beam, and don't want to spam comet with homing I did that playthrough in ds1 (+ combust)
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>>486544426
>It's got so many separate locations it's fucking annoying
It has two.
Basically the entirety of the entrance area up to the seventh floor is invader's playground. That's a fuck LONG stretch of land, full of rape your face tier Fire Knights and verticality.
Back Entrance is even worse for the host because it has the rafters.
It's very similar to two Stormveil's main "routes" in a sense. Back entrance and main gate.
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Alright, time to play dark souls to see how the combat compares
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Post your webms
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>>486544460
You can use the WA if you
>meet physical requirements for two handing the weapon (even though it's paired) which is 26STR
>meet INT requirements
So for most endgame builds it's a matter of swapping two talismans at most.
I can use it even on my level 40 dude. Excellent for Raya Lucaria elevator.
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>finally completely spoiler myself and check spell reqs
>72 72 53
lmao what the fuck
for context my main a generalist wizard who can cast "everything" who is already lv200 has something like 42 50 18 + dex
rip every build
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>>486544696
not mine but still kino
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Okay I'd like some actual thoughts on my build. It's a pure faith build, I plan on focusing on casting with the coded sword as a secondary. I have 13 int to use discuss of light because the new seal boosts it or is that seal shit and I should just dump the int?
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>>486544154
I see who I'm talking to now, you're the schizo spamming your shitty webms with some pol greentext ramblings

Get help
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>>486544897
looks good anon
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Hey I just started the game, how easy is this armor set to get in the game/how early can I get it? Also what would you call the most straightforward "john elden ring" build one could run?
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>>486545034
if you're not following a guide on how to get the armor you will 100% miss it
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>>486545034
you just started and you want to be as boring as possible?
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>>486544897
looks like my madness build before I restarted to add weapons that aren't torches anon
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>>486545034
You have to get fairly far to get it, you'll need two great runes and need to start Volcano Manor and do Bernahl's side quest.
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>>486545112
*jokes on me though cause they added a madness torch in the dlc lmao and it has int req. stupid messmer baiting me into thinking I need a fire spear LOL at least I can try out the fire knight swords and stuff too.
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>>486545034
youre not getting it organically until 40 hours at best
even then countless people miss it entirely because its locked behind an npc quest that goes away
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>>486545034
>Also what would you call the most straightforward "john elden ring" build one could run?
60 VIG
54-80 STR
18 DEX
Some mind, around 20
The rest into END, and a few points into INT/FAI/ARC if you want to hit weapon requirements for DLC, but don't worry about it now.
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Is there any difference between light and medium load?
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>>486545254
you roll further on light load
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>you need more items
>YOU FUCKING NEED MORE ITEMS
>FUCKING TAKE THE CRAFTIBLE ITEMS STRAIGHT INTO YOUR ASS NOW BITCH
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>>486528893
Perfect design, OST, fight, and VA choice. He deserved to be the antagonist of Elden Ring II. As with so many other characters in this game, he leaves me wanting so much more of him that what we got.
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>>486545346
...You good bro?
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>>486545346
Call of Tibia is legit amazing
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>>486544090
eagle jumpscare
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>>486545034
do all the volcano invasions ALL of them talk to bhernal and patches
go to the golden capital the GOLD one and go to the roundtable hold an invader drops it
if you want to "speedrun" there get spiked caestus with bloodflame spell and punch every boss up to altus to death (frost for renalla cause shes weak to both)

dont forget sacred tears physic seeds ghostplants Boc blaidd iji rannis whole ass quest the int scorpion talisman hyette patches patches patches kenneth millicent so you have to beat caelid neil detour to shaded and then windmill godskin are you bored of reading this SPEEDRUN list yet?

ive done this ten times....
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>send sign for random co-op
>get summoned
>host is named "Duel Club **st"
>sever out just as he's invaded
Not playing that game.
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>>486528893
He feels like Sui Ishida character. Very similar to the way he writes antagonists.
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>>486545386
>TAAAKE IT TAKE MY CRAFTIBLE DICK IN THE ASSSS BIITCH YOU FUCKING WHHOOOOORE OH YYEEEEEEESSS
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>>486544508
Hiding
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>made a very mean Seamless invader
>Seamless is so chill and friendly i just start goofing around and letting hosts kill me after scaring them with a madness proc or two
See, this is what a relaxed ruleset does to invaders
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How much Poise do you want for invasions? Does it even matter? With all the 3v1s it doesn't seem like it'd do much.
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>>486545743
Poise in PvP is a meme. If you're not going to poiseblob just get the 51 PvE breakpoint and rely on HA in PvP.
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>>486545806
>51
50*
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>>486545743
all of it
if you cant wear full solitude cause youre invading disabled kids at level 60 then it doesnt matter
just wear enough to not get stun locked by a dagger
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>>486545829
You keep saying this claim but you've offered zero evidence of it.
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>>486545916
What evidence? Light attacks deal 50 poise damage, you need over 50 poise for your stagger meter to not fill, armors have decimal values for poise that the game doesn't display. These are all known, datamined facts.
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The worse thing about Rannifags is that they've convinced themselves that they're unpopular and need to be super defensive about their dumb choices.
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I know he's not exactly himself, but Rykard is the one demigod whose voice really doesn't seem to match who he is supposed to be. They turned this man into a living meme for kicks.
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>dude what the fuck was that
I'm getting DS1 flashbacks from these invasions
A shame they will probably get poisoned in a month (although it's harder for them to devolve to the vanilla ER faggotry because you invade the highest level phantom in the party so no downscale niggery for the host)
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finally finished my dlc build plan for weebshroom
looks like im taking some arc after all, for the poison perfume (weapon type) which works for me cause my seal will finally do DAMAGE scaling instead of using spells that ignore scaling
>off by 1 point for stamina (138 not 140) because of this
must, ignore, ocd...

the 23 int stays cause fias mist I think plus both katanas are now magic split. the only thing I didnt hit here is light roll or just vig gouging to 99 which seems pointless after doing the math.
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>>486544829
yeah specialization is now important.
level 200 isn't enough if you want to cast even two schools
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good night, erg.
found a good fanart today.
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>>486545829
>50
now stand on stormveil hill and let a DAGGER soldier hit you ONCE idiot.
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>>486545743
As much as possible.
The problem of being a poiselet is that even stuff like throwing daggers and short bows start stunning you.
88 is a good baseline because that's the 1h rapier poise damage.
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rolling to decide on build
evens: str for anvil/solitude/devonia's
odd: str/arc for chicken leg and meteor sword
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>>486530858
DS2 is quite specific. Not hard, but quite annoying desu
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>>486546417
goodnight cutie
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>>486546185
Bro we don't need to read the 500th "Ranni is a big meanie :((" post this weak. The basic story of these games is about a struggle for power where you kill anyone standing in your way even if you have sympathy for the bosses you're murdering.
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>>486546203
Undergoing a personaility switch as your body fuses and grows within a giant serpent is pretty reasonable. It would be weirder if he was the same
Join the snake familyyy
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>>486546372
its just enough for my holy build but its tight, 37 72 X, and some str dex for BOWS too. (not good compared to my pure dex rogue but holy arrows at range can be nice escp. vs skeletons)
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>>486546417
Straight Mike is superior and I like seeing him a little taller. The shota stuff gets old after a while.
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I just woke up from a dream where you fought a boss on an elevator and he fully restored his health if you made him bleed.
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>>486530826
"VILE BAYLE" fits with the song better.
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>>486546006
Okay cool now prove it with a webm or something.
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>>486546431
nobody uses offstocs anymore
l2 players dont use rapiers
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>>486546432
I'm having trouble deciding between those two builds.
The Smithscript stuff is amazing for STR.
Both the shield and the axe obliterate people.
Arc has a bunch of cool weapons but feels a bit more limited.
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>>486546591
Where at? I've never heard of that
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>>486546591
try frost
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>>486545743
Just make sure you have around 40-50 to tank daggers, everything above is useless because poise is a complete meme for invasions. You WILL be chipped by a random R1, and it WILL fuck up your poise health and open you up to a blender.
Fast roll and hyperarmor is infinitely more important than poise.
Passive poise is significantly more important for duels.
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>>486526706
Finally, I can have decent poise on this character without compromising his fashion too hard.
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>>486546694
He basically looked like one of Messmer's knight but with Pinhead's face and I was using a whip for some reason and he would smile every time he bled out and got full health (which as a lot)
>>486546735
Kek
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What build should I use playing through the original dark souls?
Want to compare the combat to elden ring to remove any nostalgia bias.
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>start a new run
>want to do a spell caster with melee
>can't decide on arcane or faith spells
>can't decide in strength or dex focus
>end up leveling all 4 and can't respec until I get to Rwnnala
I think like I mightbe dumb
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Invading as Sellen is great, but why do people on wiki comments say star shower is better than stars of ruin? 12 projectiles keeps people away from me a lot longer than 6

>>486546223
seamless is so fun...
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>>486546768
Holy shit my sides. This is fucking amazing
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>>486546768
Gay name edgelord name
Should've called yourself The Crow
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>>486546768
Anon...
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>>486546802
>What build should I use playing through the original dark souls?
STR
Heavy armor
Fat roll
Heaviest fuckoff greatshield
Largest weapon you can find
Pyromancy Glove with ONE slot dedicated to Power Within
Become THE tank
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>>486546909
Absolutely based holy shit
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>>486546768
Metalpocalypse vibes
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>>486546969
You're just describing my very first ever playthrough of dark souls.
Full smoughs, havels greatshield, black knight greataxe.
Man I was a scrub back then.
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>>486546802
What is dark soulsM
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>>486546768
holy fuck he's so cool
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>>486545916
>>486546418
>>486546641
Have it writ upon thy meagre grave.
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>>486546485
Who the fuck are you? I don't give a fuck what you think you don't need to read, I'll post whatever I want.
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>>486546857
Star Shower has insane tracking. They basically fulfil different functions compared to stars of ruin.
>>486547038
And yet it's probably the coolest experience DS1 can provide you with. No other souls game managed to replicate this feeling of being an immovable object that deletes everything ahead of him.
Hell if you're fine with being a nigger you can be semi successful in random pvp with this setup, just get an elemental estoc into second slot.
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>>486547082
Now do the same thing with 50 poise and take a stagger or I don't believe you.
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>>486545837
>>486545581
>>486545004
>>486544871
Thank you for your webms sirs
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>>486546491
From what we see he fed himself to the snake because he was slowly driven crazy. It's very possible even his voice got raspy and weird sounding from his madness, we see this from grrm in reek and other characters, or because his voice was damaged as he was either swallowed whole by the God devouring serpent OR he was slowly chewed away by a small version of it and reconstituted himself within it if the intro art is meant to be taken seriously.
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>>486546909
The Crow is too edgekino for me to even think about taking his name.
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>>486547156
No. Goodbye.
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>>486546768
It's not really appropriate fashion unless you have gauntlets with five-inch spikes on them
>captcha: V0T4N
>it knows
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>>486547209
I accept your concession, your webm proves literally nothing as is except that that enemy is doing less than 50 poise damage.
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>>486547142
Nta but you should care about what they say about it
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>>486547176
Respectable.
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>enemy is doing less than 50 poise damage
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why did Messmer call me Shaun of Light.
my name is not Shaun!
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>>486547259
>I accept your concession
I swear I was writing this back in 2019 before it was cool. If I started this, I sincerely apologize to everyone.
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>>486545692
Damn you are one scary looking mf.
How does Seamless coop actually works? Can I use it with pirated version of the game?
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>>486547391
lost it
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>>486547395
>How does Seamless coop actually works? Can I use it with pirated version of the game?
I'm not sure. It still uses Steam matchmaking in some way, although it's probably possible with some piracy tools. It just overrides Fromsoft servers and EAC.
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>>486547321
Yes anon not everything in PvE deals EXACTLY 50 poise damage.
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>>486547150
I see. It's more important for me to keep enemies busy for as long as possible until my magic glintblades or slicer can catch them, so I'll keep using stars of ruin
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This game needs more normal outfits like Ansbach's or Alberich's with some simple armor over it like a cuirass and some spaulders. I don't want to look like a tryhard in this game, just a normal adventurer with decent taste and practical gear.
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>>486525857
Is there a banished knight armor with the coat but no cape?
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>>486546445
I lied. It's morning.
>>486546582
They are both good. But I agree.
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>>486547609
No
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>>486547562
messmer soldier armor is good enough for basic bitches like you
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>>486547629
I kind of wish they kept at least one of Malenia's eyes for her model. But then I also wish Miyazaki put a 400-hour dating quest for her in the game so I guess I can't have it all.
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>>486546857
>why do people on wiki comments say star shower is better than stars of ruin?
Stars of Ruin hits like a bus and lasts longer but is more easily dodged. Star Shower has incredible homing. Both are good for different reasons and comparing them is retarded. Ignore the comments.
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>>486547768
literal aids chaser
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>>486547715
That looks too poor. Ansbach's set with fancier armor on it would be just what I'm looking for.
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>>486546417
>>486547629
>>486546582
Convince me not to commission art of miquella sandwiched between radahn and malenia. Him plapping malenia while radahns cock is in him. Convince me not to. Now
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>>486536983
why are ranni fags the worst?
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>>486531221
And why didn’t Marika rip his eye to trap Rykard into the junkyard ?
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>GO vs Nox, result: draw (double KO)
gg
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>>486547768
>400 hours
>not years long dating quests that turn into marriage quests that turn into child raising quests
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>>486547768
Malenia with eyes is cute. Not having eyes is cute too. Malenia is cute! I like to imagine Miquella removing one of his eyes and putting on her so they look the same.
>>486547896
I can't...
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>>486535606
>>486535804
>NYYOOOOO THAT DOESNT COUNT YOU AREN'T ROLLSLOPPING LIKE I DID
Have sex and go outside
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>>486547936
They do it to annoy you specifically. I'm not joking, you invaded one of them years ago and they did a discord raid to make you annoyed but they stayed here and now they just post out of tradition and to annoy you still.
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>>486548082
You can cope all you want anon, the fingerprint is absolutely cheese though.
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>>486548071
Michael Hacki completely ignored Miquella's wings, even though wings fits his cocoon imagery
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Seamless proves that toxic environment of ER's pvp is purely a matter of the shit ruleset. Relax it, and the entire thing instantly becomes more fun to everyone involved.
Reds don't sweat and just pretend to be minibosses or do dumb shit that gets them killed
Coopers actually can have fun
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So why is miquella a monstrosity in moghs egg but a faggy twink in scooby doo land
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>>486548198
He was growing a new adult body for him to take over, but Mohg removed it from the Haligtree and it rotted in the cocoon
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>>486548184
What the fuck are you even talking about? What does seamless do for invasions?
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>>486548139
It would also fit in with Malenia and the Cleanrot Knights having wings
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>>486548107
this is all true, I'm a ranni fag.
yes Im gay
yes I main int
yes I never played dark souls 1-3
yes I look up guides
how could you tell?
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>>486548270
He's just desperately trying to "prove" that invaders aren't as bad as they, in fact, are.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z2Yy0pkcfiA
>You fight with cheese
Yes
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>>486548198
>>486548265
I thought it was Miquellas child like body that was corrupted and changed by mohgs blood molestation. And then that being his body got retconned for the DLC whose plot seems to have undergone big rewrites
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>>486547896
>miquella could've had the best life ever swapping between both of his siblings and sharing them at once
>could've plapped malenias scarlet pussy
>could've plapped radahn's gravitass with malenia's juices as lube
>could've filled them both up with cum
>they all could've snuggled afterwards
>we took that from him
>we stole his dream life
>all so we can marry a genocidal statue, murderous doll, or burn everything with jew fire
Are we the baddies miquellabros?
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>>486548198
tired of explaining same thing over and over so
https://youtu.be/kVm5k99PnBk?t=23
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>>486548270
>you invade the phantom with the highest level, no downscaling mechanics to speak of
>full estus for invader
>rune arc for invader
>spirit ashes for EVERYONE so prepare for absolute and utter hilarity and chaos when everyone summons some shit
>torrent for EVERYONE so jousting is possible
>can seamlessly enter and exit caves and other locations so no fog walling cave ganks
>ganks are nonexistent in general
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>>486547562
So many armor sets look like they were designed to be hung in someone's house and not actually worn. The closest thing to a normal outfit is probably the Page armor but that looks weird on players
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>>486548184
you'd think so, but I play on the cracked version that uses Spacewar for networking and I have encountered honest-to-god 3stack chinese gankers waiting at the red wolf of radagon grace for people with taunter's tongue

>>486548270
great runes and equal estus
no need for trick mirrors
invade everywhere
matchmaking is calculated off of the highest level person present
no lag from EAC
can toggle instakill for infinite HP cheaters
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>>486548478
So don't reply? Do you get off on being a passive aggressive bitch?
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>>486548369
Actually most rannifags are 3 only players. There's a huge subset of annoying "veterans" who started with 3 and think they're hot shit when they're little better than the normalfags and retards populating elden ring. Nearly every ranni or marika simp are these types of people you can tell by what they say or how neither of these types barely know anything about these games outside of ds3. I hate ds3 so much its unreal. It started many of the non open world problems with elden ring especially community wise but gameplay wise as well. If I could I'd erase ds3 and elden ring from existence erasing all rannifags all marikafags and all those annoying ds3 troglodytes
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>>486548598
First time on 4chan?
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>>486548550
>and I have encountered honest-to-god 3stack chinese gankers waiting at the red wolf of radagon grace for people with taunter's tongue
Holy shit chinks are pathetic lmao
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>>486548198
He's a monstrosity in reality he just charms people so they see him different
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>>486548598
ive answered this for the last three days yet you keep asking the same question
and now "hur you are you being passive aggressive" despite answering with a video so I don't have to type a bunch, fuck off. stop asking the same dumb questions.
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>>486548478
That's a cope explanation because the body in the egg isnt chestbursted open or some shit and Miquella didn't become disembodied spirit until after he was already in the shadow realm. Face it, they dropped whatever plotline they were originally going to use the egg for but kept it as the dlc entrance because they ran out of time.
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these nerds will never know TWoP pursuers spawn in gankers
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>>486548705
keep yourself safe
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>>486548629
Weirdly accurate. Started with DS3 and I'm a Rannifag, except I did go back and play DS1 and BB.
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>>486548489
Yeah yeah we get it you're shilling seamless, fuck off.
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>>486548431
The "it was a body he was growing" is the only thing that makes sense now. Just like the whole "he was at the battle of aeonia" thing. Either freyja was simply mistaken, miquella was able go do the same bullshit morgott does and possess someone to be there, or the fight freyja got rotted in was simply a sparring thing between malenia and radahn that malenia accidentally let out a scarlet farther during

They really fucked the lore
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>>486548770
there are cocoons all over haligtree its how he's aging to overcome.....no im not doing this.
>>486548846
is that supposed to be a threat?
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>>486548489
>Spirit ashes for everyone
Set up a spirit ash pokemon fight.
Invader and host each summon a spirit ash and they let the spirit ashes fight it out.
Whoever wins gets to kill the other no questions asked. Or maybe a few free hits or something.
Also Torrent jousting
>run at each other in a straight line, no deviation. Have to hit a charged R2 with a lance type weapon.
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>>486548908
Maybe if From put effort into their multiplayer component people wouldn't feel the need to do so.
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>>486548431
>I thought it was Miquella's child like body
It is though. He looks the same in the opening cutscene. Other than looking all fucked up because he's feeding a tree with his blood.
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>>486547896
Patrician taste anon, post link when the art is done
>tfw you will never fuck a god twink (who is your half brother) while he fucks his hot tomboy swordmaster twin sister (who is also your half sister)
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>>486549084
>Huh I wonder wht Miquella has insect wings in his hair
>Huh I wonder why there was so many webbed cocoons around the haligtree
Neither are explored or explained in the DLC
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>>486547562
Soldier armor, knight and vagabond sets, a bunch of other light sets, there is no shortage of more normal looking sets
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I'm glad Ansbach exists because he's the definitive proof for my old theory that Mohg wasn't such a bad guy.
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>its a disingenuous lore discussion episode
cool story im watching youtube videos then.

and if that was a threat fuck around and find out.
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>>486548629
the sanest post itt.
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>>486549329
Most lore discussion with these games are by their nature disingenuous because of how the lore of these games are made. They're specifically made so that people can fill in the blanks themselves, which is headcanon, but people don't actually like this and convince themselves their headcanon is the actual truth to help them cope with their love-hate relationship with the lore
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>>486548908
>shilling a free mod
lol?
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I feel like dark souls is going to feel excruciatingly easy now.
This should be fun.
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Is Fire Giant really the biggest boss? Imagine one you could see from a long distance,
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>>486549084
Man, this "Mohg was charmed" shit is such a retcon. This does not look like a guy whose following orders.
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>>486549587
he's the biggest faggot I hate him
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>>486549598
It makes sense if he was charmed after he took Miquella out of the Haligtree
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>>486549513
This is completely and utterly incorrect
All schizobabble is the first one if the anon admits its schizobabble.
All schizobabble is the second if the anon does not admit it's schizobabble.
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>>486549598
We know miyazaki as per his own words kept out lore from the base game to add to the dlc. I suspect half of the lore is what he kept out so it feels like retcons the other half were last minute changes he made and were retcons. So half feels like a retcon then other half is just retcons. Making a really nonsensical story.
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>tfw no glintlock
https://youtu.be/MD-ZX1Fv3N4

I really want the machine gun xbow. shotgun is bretty good.
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>>486549587
Aren’t furnaces specifically used to fight them?
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>Mohg controls people using blood! - good
>Miquella controls people using his great rune! - bad
Sir Ansbach...your bias is showing...of course you find him bad if the only thing you were good for (fighting abilities) are made useless...
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>>486549598
Easier to charm people in the Scadutree realm I guess
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>>486549725
>Lord Miquella, I was going to rape and then sacrifice you
>But now I really want to stuff you into this coccoon for some reason
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>>486549837
Ansbach is just a huge fan of hornsents, the people close to the crucible
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>>486549598
>Man, this "Mohg was charmed" shit is such a retcon
this is why im convinced people are just retarded and I am DONE discussing lore from now on.
ive been saying this for at least a year and now the dlc is out its "a retcon" :/

>>486549837
>leave the world, use fire to burn the tree, curse every living thing, unleash the undead, all fine
>burn the world yourself? you fucking monster
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>>486548184
Wrong, it's just that awareness of seamless hasn't spread yet, so the sweats are still stuck on the base game
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>>486550065
This sadly.
Sweats will eventually invade seamless. But at least in seamless you can just turn invasions off outright.
But that won't solve the ultimate issue.
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>>486549624
Not anymore. There's a new biggest fag at the gloryhole and his name is Furnace Golem.
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>>486549983
Maybe Mohg needed an empyrean to begin with but then got charmed to fall in love with him and eased off on the hands-on bloody culty stuff to sit around in Miquella's bloodstream instead.
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>>486550065
A lot of people sweat purely because of the retarded vanilla limitations placed on the invader
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Why is base game so much better than the dlc?
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>>486550062
Oh no, what will we ever do without condescending lowercase guy
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>>486550210
I think you underestimate the sheer degeneracy of the average invader. If you turn on the taunter's tongue and don't summon blues, you can see how these people act when they get a 1v1.
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>>486550215
Don't worry I've already got several complains written up that I intend to vent over the course of the next thread.
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>>486550215
They spent more time working on it
>>486550221
huge loss for erg (real)
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>>486549598
>This does not look like a guy whose following orders
I'm going to defend From and GRRM here. In that pic you Mohg, a character which looks like a classical demon/devil, blackskin, horns, wings, with blood dripping down his trident, and his strong asscioation with blood. And what Mohg is doing is abducting what looks like a purely innocent childlike fairy (the insect wings in his hair you see quite distinctly), the blonde hair and defeated sleeping posture Miquella has. What you see is a demon has stolen a pure magical child in the night to do horrible things with.
Subverting that with Miquella being the real monster and Mohg trying to be Elden lord despite his cursed omen nature is very GRRM. Judging people by apperance when the reality is flipped with Miquella being more demonlike stealing the hearts of men, and Mohg being the magical child, strongly connect to the crucible of life and the divine as his tangle of horns makes him very special in the eyes of the Hornsent. Fromsoft wanted players to fall for what looks like an evil dude carrying off a child and its actually a brainwashed victim of an evil schemer in the form of an innocent child seems planned from the start, it was just execurted in a clunky fashion.
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>>486548629
After 60+ hours in elden ring I can say that its the worst game.
The open world is a slog, the bosses spam magic and attacks appearing to have unlimited stamina.
The only boss I have enjoyed fighting so far is the full grown fallingstar beast.
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>>486526792
Why are they shitters?
You are using patas and calling them shitters?
Dont reply just know that you are the mindbroken invader fag
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Not even items from the same set have the same color what the fuck
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>>486547503
Every light attack deals exactly 50 poise. Every heavy attack deals exactly 100 poise. Ranged attacks and some spells deal 10.
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I dont know what the fuck the lore is in this game and I dont care. Lore has become gay.
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>>486550062
You don't leave the world when releasing undead
You don't release undead when you leave the world
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>>486550491
that wasn't my point and I dont care anymore cause all you people do is insult me fuck off.
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Hey sorry where can I discuss Lies of P ?
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>>486550145
Don't forget that maybe all the blood cult, formless mother worship, blood swamp, 'Lord of Blood' title was all done on Miquellas orders to try and create another Gate of Divinty, since that was also made of flesh and blood. The 3rd gen alburnorics having hornsent horns seems to me like Mohgywn Palace is an attempt to recreate the blood sacrifice and rituals of the hornsent people.
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>>486550282
To be completely fair, I invade for chaos. I don't want to duel. As far as I'm concerned, you're wasting my time because you can just go to the Arena.
So it's a waste of my time. As far as I'm concerned, 1v1's are an invitation to waste their time if they want to be annoying.

That being said - I do agree with you. Most invaders are faggots. But so are most hosts. The whole thing is an arms race and it's all garbage. PVP sucks in Elden Ring.
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>>486550591
/lopg/
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>>486550578
>dont care
>replies
>>486550591
they used to talk about it in /fsg/ but i guess people finished the game and moved on
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>summoned for Gaius
>skabadoodle level 3
Why?
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>>486549598
It's most definitely a retcon. Several things are. Radahn's involvement and Mohg's motivations, and Radahn's involvement specifically was likely last minute.
Malenia's whole thing of being in Caelid to beat Radahn over the accord with Miquella is also a retcon most like but, her primary character and motivation didn't really change.
Also the DLC was definitely and primarily about Messmer and Marika's early days. Miquella was not meant to be the antagonist.
As for if Miquella was purely a good guy, probably not. With the mess the DLC made of things you'll never know.
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>>486550578
Hello I'm going to sleep soon come to bed
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>>486550638
>>486550720
huh did someone say something I cant hear you over the sound of fuck off.
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Fresh bread
>>486550763
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>>486550763
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>>486550351
It makes perfectly sense for the guy who accepted his omen curse to spread it around though.
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>>486550596
The entire point of invasions, and this is from the mouths of reds, is to serve as an aditional barrier to clearing the level
If someone taunters and then goes through the level expecting invaders to come in to make shit harder
But reds are sadistic assholes.
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>>486550282
>1v1
Fuck off to the Arena.
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>>486550628
>>486550638
Damn ok. Guess I'll wait for DLS.
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>>486550282
People rush taunter hosts because in 90% of cases there are blueniggers arriving within a minute.
If you don't rush them, this >>486544282 almost certainly happens and the only way to combat it is by aborting the entire team
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>>486544696
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>>486536245
I'll take them all except Fia & Marika
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>>486547391
>>486544696
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>>486547996
Ranni found his secret doll collection
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>>486548920
The lore is so vague they can get away with a lot before fucking it up for real.
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Found sir Ainsbach and Thioller in the final arena
I get why Ainsbach is there, but why's Thioller? Last I saw him he was coping and seething at Trina's feet.

Honestly a fair bit of the DLC story went over my head. Where's the 2 hour lore video to spoonfeed me?
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All this talk of retcons, but were any theories reinforced by this dlc?
I like to think that the Shattered Stone Talisman strongly supports the theory that the Leyndell eternal city literally fell when another linchpin stone was destroyed.
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>>486531864
greyolls roar
aeonia
unendurable frenzy



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