"Thanks To All The Heroes" Edition>DRAGON BALL: Sparking! ZERO - https://youtu.be/SYFfnFDIC2c>Kakarot teased to get a 3rd Season Pass!>Dragon Ball Superdivers Announced! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FHpXUsd0YRU>Season 6 of Dragon Ball: The Breakers released!>Useful links:https://rentry.org/dft79XV2 news:>Future Saga Chapter 1 released>New characters: Super Saiyan God Vegeta (Ultra Supervillain), Super Saiyan Rosé Black (Ultra Supervillain), Videl (DBS), Android 18 (DBS), Broly (Restrained)SDBH News:>Owari Da>MM6 will be the last SDBH mission>SDBH SEC card campaign>SDBH Databasehttps://www.carddass.com/dbh/sdbh_mm/cardlist/DBSDV news:>You can have a team of up to 8 characters (7 cards and an avatar)>3 card types: Impact, Rush, and Boost>CAA/TAA have been renamed as Action Skills>If you collect all 7 dragon balls in-game and summon Shenron, you'll pull an guaranteed Super Rare card>Avatars can also be Namekians or Fridges>Avatars can also equip accessories and level up a skill tree>If you max out your SDBH avatar's level and transfer them over to Superdivers, you can unlock default SDBH avatar skins for your Superdivers avatar>HOW TO FIND YOUR XENOVERSE 2 SAVE ON STEAM guide:steam > userdata > [your steam id] > 323470 > remote > DBXV21DBXV2.sav should be there, which is your savefileIf you wish to delete it to try reimporting or for other reasons, disable steamcloud on both Xenoverse 1 and 2 first.Kakarot:>Season 3 of DLC has been datamined to be Daima (Part I and Part II)DB The Breakers:>Season 6 releases on June 26th>Survivors: CAC, Bulma, Oolong, The Farmer, Chichi, King Furry, Yajirobe, Baba, Dende, King Kai, Gogeta, Cheelai, Lemo, Future Mai, Puar, Jaco, Bra, Launch (Good and Bad)>Raiders: Cell, Frieza, Buu, Vegeta, Ginyu Force, Broly, Goku Black/Zamasu, Baby Vegeta>XV Booru: Upload drawfaggotry herehttp://xenoverse.booru.org/Rest in Peace, Akira ToriyamaThank youLAST TIME ON /dbg/: >>486497379
I don't know if it's the desaturated colors or the lack of greasy skin but I'm getting some Super Dragon Ball Z vibres from pic relatedThe designs still suck horribly tho
Beat and Note are dead, long live Beat and Note!
>>486948502>>486948585I mean, they look just like Beat and Note if they were like few years older.
the borders make the cards look so tackydefinitely a step down from heroes>>486946376cuz its stupid in a fun way, plus collecting the cards is fun
>>486948695Nah they changed their eyes and hair color precisely so it's clear they are inspired by them but still different people
>>486948585>girl looks nice, not very good, but nice>boy looks horribleWell at least they will almost certainly get new clothes when they transform like Beat and Note.I don't like they still have tails tho, it's officially an outdated genetic liability of the race, the only advantage is SS4, which is weaker than many other forms and not even a form for the OCs in Heroes so what's the fucking point
Second DBSDV stream: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nTuYiFfWOkY
>>486949292SSJ4 is literally the money printing formofc they are gonna have the ocs go ssj4 at some point so they can market the shit out of it
>>486949329>>486948912>Gohan's card shows him in Ultimate>actualy character in the game is in baseSome things never change
>>486949292If it helps, you can unlock SDBH avatar skins for the DBSDV avatar if you max out your SDBH avatars before transfering.
>>486948585>>486948502Pokemon protagonist ass shirt
>The Super Divers Promotional Video if anyone wants to watch ithttps://x.com/justice061120/status/1814879493141491999
>>486949665I'll keep that in mind for the next OP, for some reason the DBSDV youtube channel didn't upload the trailer yet so I had to use dbtuber's recording of it.
>>486936638DB characters are terrible at communicating. One funny thing in Red Ribbon arc is that nobody even knew Goku "killed" Tao Pai Pai, they only know he destroyed the Red Ribbon army, and Roshi only learns he "killed" Tao Pai Pai during the 22nd tournament.
>>486948502they look like rally driversis it time for cardass games on motorcycles?
Gameplay looks neat, but it does make me wonder how they would go about porting it eventually considering the whole 4-screen situation.
I hope they've been lying and the SZ story goes all the way to Broly, Jiren's a lame final boss
>>486951976I thought it did go to Broly, why wouldn’t it when him and Gogeta are base roster?
>>486951976I mean, Broly and Gogeta are already in the base roster, it'd be weird to not do anything with that. Plus, if the story mode intro is any indication, we'll probably see some OG stuff in there too.
>>486951518>PortingEh you can just forgo the 3 screen thing and just make it one wide screen while still demanding the same card/screen actions. Whether its one big screen or 3 smaller one you can make things work for a console/PC port. Or in the case of SDBH mode, it might make some things jank with the awkward resolution but hopefully not unplayable.>GameplayIt looks... Fine. It is heavily dependent from the cards and what they have for abilities but it's still not activating any almonds in my noggin, deck building wise it'll be stuck with a card pool within the 100s until we get through several blocks and for a deck builder like myself, that's not much, especially if Super Divers is not allowed to have its own identity like Heroes did. For the base mechanics, seemingly getting rid of STA is a choice, it seems as if PWR (from my understanding) equate to both damage and speed. I think the game looks pretty enough but nothing is completely wowing me and when compared to SDBH, I think I like the more up-close visual you had for the attacks, compare Broly's stomp to BM7-066, they share the same super attack and I think SDBH's extra flare and touches makes it feel cooler/more powerful.
>>486952943>>486952986They said Goku's story goes from Raditz to the ToP.
>>486953290that just means broly is at the end of vegeta's story
>>486953419Or Broly has his own story mode, making the final boss Gogeta
>>486953837also possible
>>486953837I mean it could happen, I’m sure Goku Vegeta Piccolo and Gohan will all have story modes but the other 4 are kinda up in the air, maybe Krillin Frieza and Cell?
>>486953290I know that, but that's probably just them not wanting to spoil anything. The fact that Gogeta and Broly are early unlocks for pre-ordering means they have to be unlocked normally somehow.
>>486954308Krillin seems unlikely while I'd say Trunks is definitely getting onemake Jaco if he's in the base game, as a gag "What if Jaco saved the universe?"
>>486954308I think 18 has a chance since she takes down Ribrianne.
>>486954963>as a gag "What if Jaco saved the universe?"If they do that it would be with Mr Satan
Goku, Gohan, Vegeta, Trunks and Piccolo are 100% getting story modes, the only question is about the other three mystery niggas. Also remember you can play as other characters in someone else' story mode (ie: Goku story mode's what if against Raditz lets you play as Kurilin and Piccolo too) so other characters can be represented in fights even if they aren't "protagonists", like let's say playing as Golden Freeza in Gohan's story against Dyspo
>>486955852>Also remember you can play as other characters in someone else' story mode (ie: Goku story mode's what if against Raditz lets you play as Kurilin and Piccolo too)I hope that's not limited to team battles only. Like, Tien vs Cell could be part of Goku's story mode since he was watching it. I just want them to actually take advantage of the fuckhuge roster for the story mode like 1 and 2 did, unlike 3
>>486956229>Tien vs CellHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
So divers is still reusing a ton of models and sfx huhAnd there's 3 battle types, CAAs, 7 characters per team, charge impacts I still don't really understand why it's a thing, I guess they needed to rework the base without calling it ultra dbh or something?
Why is she so fucking stacked
>>486959256Technically 8 if you include the avatar. If I had to guess, maybe Dimps thought the graphical and interface update is different enough to not call it Heroes. It's a pretty unique-looking machine for sure.
>>486949292>which is weaker than many other formsNOBODY cares about your powerscaling shit, especially not in fanservice games like this lolSSG jobbed to ice btw.
>>486961360Agreed.Powerscaling is fucking gay and has always been a fucking plague on Dragon Ball ever since the introduction of power levels gave faggots something to latch onto and autistically jack themselves off about.Honestly, even outside of the DB community, every single 'powerscaler' I've spoken to was either an actual certified retard or 13 years old.
>>486961360>NOBODY CARES but let me try to downplay this other form to make mine look strongerlmao
>>486960542The younger audience got older, and so will the avatars.
Also something to cry on for Super Divers, there are models for SSB Goku/Vegeta found in the promo video near some purple portal. So the over-spammed, under-hyped, dull recolor that should've been a shade or two darker might be in the first set of Super Divers setting a bleak fucking precedent. I swear to fucking Aeos if the first SEC is MUI Goku somehow, I will be tempted to get Satan on the phone and tell him where to send the next fucking plague.
>>486962079I dunno man, not really something to get worried over. It's like, best get these characters out of the way early to make room for more characters later. If the first Superdivers set is anything like the first Heroes set, then I'm pretty sure we'll get some villains for SECs.
>>486948502>>486960542I hate her design holy shit. These wrinkles under her eyes make her look so damn old and her body doesn't fit the head. Bad all around.Note come back and save us please.
>>486963442what
>>486963442Anon, those aren't wrinkles, they're cheek marks, the same kind most DB characters have, the ones that help define their faces a little bit more. I know it's not as common for girls to be drawn with them, especially in this era, but I don't see how you could confuse them for wrinkles.
>>486971951They look cute on Videl but awful on the new girl somehow.
>>486948251Note is pure!
>>486949292>the only advantage is SS4, which is weaker than many other forms and not even a form for the OCs in Heroes so what's the fucking point
>>486974736Note is gone!You have to let her go
They should have been the new MCs
>>486975468No!Never!
>>486955852Maybe Frieza and Buu since they pretty much fight everyone in their respective arcs. I could also see them making some joke/challenge story with Mr Satan fighting every major antagonist
>>486982252>Freeza only gets three arcs of action>Buu gets one plus a single fight against Beerus and a single one against Basil
Why is my nigga still not confirmed
>>486951976Final boss is probably Broly, there's a statue of Ultra Instinct Goku vs Broly, and I remember when the Broly movie came out people were wondering if Goku could still use Ultra Instinct would he be able to beat Broly. There might be a Beerus Super Boss rematch with UI Goku. Those two are the most basic final boss What If scenarios they could add in.
>>486955852If they're willing to stretch what it means to "be" a character, then Trunks:>Android Saga>Majin Buu saga as Kid Trunks (and Gotenks if they do a Budokai 3 and lets us play as fusion on their respective fusees strory modes)>Battle of Gods as Gotenks if the same applies.>If Tagoma makes it then another fight of hom getting headbutted on the nuts by Gotenks.>Goku Black Arc (They could have play as Kid Trunks for the mostly offscreen fight the 2 Trunks' had).>Nothing past that really...Also by that logic let us play as Future Gohan on Gohan's story.
Toyotaro at Jump Victory CarnivalI bet he's enjoying the peace but also dying from this dispute to end so he can go back to drawing
>>486986492UI Goku vs Broly is clearly going to be the final what if of the story mode when you choose if you want to fuse with Vegeta or try again alone, then you, Vegeta and maybe Piccolo too go to fight Broly, you job and switch to Vegeta and Piccolo, they job too and then Goku comes back with UIS, forces Broly to go full power and they recreate the statue for the final match
>>486987559Is that a kid or a manlet in the Beelzebub costume? Why is it so small?
>>486986743>play as future GohanSo one battle then die? lmaoBut the thing with Trunks would work honestly, you get to play as the future one in the android arc, then the kid in the Buu arc and also with Goten (since every fight with Goten also has Trunks) and Gotenks, then a singular battle in BoG but you get more action with him in the Black arc, with Zamasu as final boss, then in the DLC it's extended with adult present Trunks, adult present Goten and Gotenks.Basically it would be the story mode of six different characters, nine with DLC>sword Trunks>armor Trunks>Super Trunks>kid Trunks>kid Goten>kid Gotenks>adult Trunks>adult Goten>adult Gotenks
>>486988826Maybe Toyotaro is surprisingly tall? I mean, it's Japan, he could be just slightly above average for western standards and he would be considerably bigger than other nips
>>486949292>the only advantage is SS4, which is weaker than many other forms and not even a form for the OCs in Heroes so what's the fucking point>not even a form for the OCs in Heroes so what's the fucking pointAnon
>>486954963I only think Krillin might get one because he’s present for basically every big fight, and they could probably get some what ifs out of it.
I just found out that people have been emulating Zenkai battle royale on RPCS3. Anyone know how it is? I've only seen gameplay of it over the years.
>>486993089Only CHADku is playable as we don't have any clue how to unlock the rest which is somehow connected to the now dead servers.
>>486991660Yeah I forgot about that. Because it's literally an alternative skin of the "official" power up Beat and Note have after Super God Class-Up, just an afterthought added almost at the end of the game's life despite being a form that debuted in... what? 1996?The "main path" ignores tails just like the main stories
>>486994210Looked it up, apparently unlocking characters has something to do with collecting dragon balls from "Dragon Ball Competition" matches. Not sure if it's possible to get these playing offline. Has no-one tried sorting out some online play shit for it yet? I mean I guess it makes sense, not many people are aware this game even exists, let alone is accessible.
>>486994849note and that other girl in black are pretty cute...
>>486994849(I realized this may sound confusing for those who don't know so I will explain)In Heroes, the avatar characters get different power ups, easily divided by looking at the saiyan versions. The basic ones just have SS for saiyans, then there's the Class-Up upgrade that lets saiyans go SS2 and the Super Class-Up that gives them SS3, then there's the God Class-Up and later the Super God Class-Up, that let then use the forms from DBS (SSG and SSGSS).And relatively recently they added the Ultimate Class-Up Sign and finally the Ultimate Class-Up that gives the characters (non-saiyans too) Ultra Instinct Sign and Ultra Instinct, and when they revealed the last one they also added the option for you to make them look as SS4 and "UFPS4LB", as alternative look for the saiyan avatars only.There are like two or three pics of them, they aren't in anime trailers or anything, they are completely secondary skin bonuses for fanservice and as far 99% of Heroes content goes they don't even exist, Beat and Note just reach UI like Super!Goku and their tails are never important. Hell it's so fucking secondary it's not even a saiyan-only change of look, it's a saiyan Hero-only change, only Beat and Note can have this skin, the other avatars, saiyan or not, just go UI no matter what.
They better add Yardrat outfit for Goku-Mid because I want modders to make yardrat Vegeta-Super asap, it's a crime we only saw him wearing those in base
>>486994849>Majin avatarDo you think they'll replace the elite majin with a girl?
>>486986743could probably dump kid trunks and just have it play out like kakarot with a bit extra>history of trunks>androids saga>future buu>goku black
A closer look at the stats of the DBSDV Goku card
Before the game fully launches, there'll be test locations in various cities where players can pick from 14 different cards.
>>487011983>no SS4 gogeta>no regular vegito>no dbz gogetaWe can go further.
>>486996904If they ever actually went through with the "even further beyond" concepts they had, that'd be neat, but Heroes is over, so it'll never happen now
>>487014515
Anything new for Sparking Zero from Evo?
Why does DBS Vegeta look so ugly compared to all the Z variants?
>>487020320looks fine to me, but I find the hair lines ugly they'd look better as orange probably>>487020126the daima/sz panel happened with nothing new I think
>>487020320That's actually how he looks in the anime.Barring Broly, Goku, and Gogeta, I really don't think the rest of the characters look like shintani's work. It feels like they're from a slightly organized episode of the DBS anime. I wasn't too sure until I saw Super Saiyan Kale and Rose Black who are basically 1:1 for how they looked in the anime.
>>487021608forgot my image
>>487021931And now that I compare the two, I definitely believe that this Vegeta was based off of the DBS anime rather than the movie.
>>486994849>>486996904>Alternate skinNot even, for the HR Male and Female Saiyans they're a completely different form at the Ultimate class level with their own effects and action abilities when compared to the UI track for the HR saiyans. They're also insanely strong Hero Avatars to pick, both arguably in the top 5 strongest HAs you could have, maybe even top 3. Of 4 HAs for the two finals matches, 2 of them were SS4LB, 1 Note for the juniors match and 1 Beat, both offer huge damage for the team in different methods, and for the matches Beat was able to win while the team with Note lost (and the other two HAs were BS Kai HAs probably just for the CI disruption and the fixed PWR LV, in SDBH ladder videos SS4LB Note is easily the most common HA you'll see, the damage she can give to your team is nuts as well as the extra PWR LV).
>>486996904>>486994849You are speaking out of your ass. SSJ4 Beat and Noter were front and center in the promotion of the game's 12th anniversary (and their Limit Breaker forms got a spotlight in the 13th one) and the transformation in game is considered equivalent to mastered UI since you can only have one or the other active.
>>487022275When Takahashi takes over both in the movie and in series it becomes his more angular look. Vegeta doesn't look like the left character model when they start fighting.
>>486948502>>486948585>>486960542So these two aren't an older Note and Beat?>>487024498Are you sure? Not Note's chest size seems on par with Note's after she turned 14 I think? This seems like a natural progression for a 16 or 15 year old herWell I guess we'll know for sure once they start doing animated CMs again or we see diver's story. It makes no sense to drop the Heroes OCs considering they stopped mattering story wise a long fucking time ago
>>487027698>Aren't an older note/beatFirst this is the beta test version of a game but in this beta test version they are just named "Avatar", maybe later they'll give the designs names or something. Something to also take into account is that the skill tree is meant to replace the effects different races had I think, since all the SDBH base HAs are skins for your Super Divers HA.
>>486994979You need to insert a coin like in an Arcade game and I don't think you can do that on the PS3 emulator.. hopefully one day.I wonder if Cheat Engine could help here if someone found the value and changed it from 0 to 1
>>487034281Oh, so whatever androids, freiza race, majins, demons, core people and namkikans got in heroes are now avaliable for these two saiyans? That sounds kind of boring but I get it, focusing on just 2 human/saiyan hybrids is way easier on the workload than focusing on all those other races. I wonder if Divers even is going to have a story at all considering how little plot matters, look at breakers, they quit caring after 3 episodes either because it was costing more to do the story than what the game was making or because they just got lazy.
>>487035638The SDBH default avatars will be unlockable skins if you max them out before transfering, but the regular Superdivers avatars should also have Namekian and Fridge designs as well as stated here.
>>486994979>>487035519Screenshot from the Title Screen. This is all it takes to have the full version, somehow finding a way to insert the DAMN COIN in!
>>487037393Don't emulated arcade games usually have an insert coin option?
>>487037393>>487037847Wait nevermind, it's not the coin actually. Still needs some Internet connection thingy because even with a coin it only loads the test version.
>>486987559I wonder what he will do after the manga ends for good.
>>486975846>giant clunky trainers, heaps of brand logos everywhereZoomer fashion is pathetic
>>487037393Yeah, I successfully inserted a coin (pressing the left stick down on the emulator (Xinput needs to be enabled first on the emulator), it doesn't make a difference. Having the D-pad be responsible for movement confused the shit out of me. You can also set it to free play in the games bios looking thing by pressing your select button. You unlock SSJ Goku by completing the first three battles as Goku but don't get to play as him because the game resets. I have no idea how to get it to save the progress made and actually progress.
>pinging baby's location, following him around the map>idiot teammates still run right into him
>>487039396Has any emulation geek in Japan been able to use a Bananaport card through their PC... somehow?
>>487039506Is it even possible to shadow a raider without them detecting or seeing you?
>>487040325I was using Jaco's ship and staying at altitude so he couldn't jump up to me (I've been snatched out of the air once before, didn't know Baby could jump 50+ feet straight up)
I love that 'Ghibli Shenron' look.
>>487039689No clue mate, I've only just discovered that ZBR was playable on RPCS3 last night. I was checking Youtube while trying to figure out how to get past the start screen and there are some vids from about 2 months ago, but nothing regarding "bannaport" stuff. Couldn't really find anything on websites or forums regarding it either (not that I looked paricularly hard). There really isn't much out there information wise regarding emulating this game. But your question might actually be better suited for our neighbours at 2ch honestly.
>>487042976Probably, but I don't speak japanese. I'm sure someone on this thread does.
All the Evo hype makes me miss early DBFZ daysSparking Zero probably won't reach the same heights of organized play
>>487043230It depends on whether or not tournament mode has lobbies. Aside from that though, it seems like the FGC has taken a liking to Sparking Zero, so I'm sure they'll figure something out.
>>487043230>The audience always shouting along with Cell's introThose were fun times the game was a pretty big success so I'm curious as to why they didn't make a sequel through looking at arc system works now they probably just wanted to get away from Shuieha since the're absolute trash to work for
>>487039396Btw, I just wanted to add to this in-case it's unclear. By "it doesn't make a difference" I don't mean the game can't be played if you insert a coin or swap it free mode, it can. But it still won't let you play the full thing because the game doesn't save properly - meaning that once you complete the 3 Goku Solo battles, you're just put straight back to the start and still unable to select characters. Essentially, nothing saves upon completion of Goku's battles and therefore progressing is impossible.
I wish I could IT to every single faggot in a premade and break their fingers, joint by joint
>>487043230>>487044234dbfz fell off hard off evo
>>487044234>curious as to why they didn't make a sequelfrom what I've heard and put together Bamco was rather difficult to work with. Seems to be a curse when it comes to joint projects and license holding. Best option for these situations is always to just let the dev team do their thing but that shit is rare as hell.
Wonder if there's anything that can be done with just Bandai Namco IDs instead of Bana passports. Anyone know what the grayed out option on the right is?
>>487053928Considering the recent leaks and news about Shueisha with Daima and the DB franchise rights, it wouldn't surprise me if they gave Arcsys a hassle too.
Anyone notice how Krillin's intro and Outro are more expressive than most of the other characters?
>>487054021The grayed out option is tournament mode. It also says that the Bamco ID is compatible, but I have no idea how one would use it on their PC.>>487054102I don't remember that little bit of him being scared before, is that new to the demo?
>>487054454That or he has a unique interaction with either Frieza or opponents he may be afraid of.
>>487053928it had a good run and content dried up, plus in terms of casual play once you you got a taste of good netplay going back to delay based was a pain in the ass. was clear Arcsys was done with the game at that point and updating the game to rollback was more a gesture of kindness to the community than to keep the game propped up. whether you like it or not it IS the game that yanked them from obscurity.
>>487054102bitch
I hope they add the sexual tension between Frieza and Yamcha from FigherZ to sparking zero
>>487060880vegeta face
>>487060880Yamamuro needs to pay for his crimes.
>>487054102He's locking in Anon, how do you think her pulled one of the baddest bitches on the planet?
>>487061568>The Shining Sarcophagus archetype was introduced in Legacy of Destruction, then got 1 more card in the following Infinite Forbidden, then got nothing, their last card, Archifiend's Advert was released as a promo with The Valuable Book ex 4. and have since Raging of the Abyss and likely Supreme Darkness been completely ignored>So the most likely chance to see Dark Magician Girl's version of a Shining Sarcophagus monster is a>VJUMP Promo or a Structure deckThanks Yugibro, really cool
Androids trailer this week?
>>487068787I hope it's a Machines trailer and we get Magetta and Mecha Frieza
I'm here in xenovere 2 bored as hell please tell me we're getting some real content soon. A new form, a new contest, something!
>>487068787Everyone at the bottom and maybe 1 or 2 surprises.
>>487072502Gohan (Youth) sounds soulless compared to Gohan (Teen)
>>487072502The average number of characters revealed by each trailer has been 12.If they also run through both Cell and Gohan's other forms (Imperfect and Semi-Perfect for Cell, Base and SS1 for Gohan) that would be 11 characters.So I'm guessing we get a Cell Saga rundown with all the Androids, all of Cell's forms, all of Gohans forms and maybe 1 or 2 extra characters who fit into the theme (Mecha Frieza and King Cold maybe, or Base Trunks (Fighter) who hasn't been officially revealed yet).All in all, a relatively unsurprising, but also necessary character trailer to fill in some gaps.
>>487072502android 21
>>487072502arale
>>487075189Arale reveal in the Androids trailer would be based.
>>487072502funny story. for years I had completely forgotten Cell's line of 'this will destroy the entire solar system', and instead I thought the solar kamehameha was named that because it's a combination of spirit bomb and kamahameha infused with energy absorbed from the sun
>>487070979ever since it got put on life support XV2 has only gotten content twice a year, once in the first half of the year and once in the second half in other words don't hold your breath until september
>>487070791Mecha Frieza would be better relegated to a costume for Z Frieza's final form
>>487073797He’s not a teen.
>>487078031Only if costumes can prevent transformations, which they didnt in BT and RB. Otherwise 100% power mecha Frieza would be a thing.
>>487078031It wouldn't be a Tenkaichi game without Mecha Freeza and Evil Buu
Are the new controls in SZ just the RB controls?
>>487083641you can choose between RB controls and Tenkaichi controls
>>487083546The issue is mecha frieza never actually fought in any media, so any moveset he has would just be a copypaste of his final form moves. Which is why he makes more sense as a skin. Evil Buu has more of an argument because of how different he is from Innocent and Super, and actually gets a bit of fighting done.
>>487090739The main problem with making Mecha Frieza a costume is the voice lines (Mecha-Frieza's voice sounds different to regular Frieza and his dialogue would also be different).In all previous BT games, voice lines were tied to characters, not costumes or movesets.Now that doesn't NEED to be true for Sparking Zero, but so far the only confirmed change that costumes can cause is different movesets.So I'm dubious about any 'costume' that would require different voicelines until we get any form of confirmation that costumes are able to change voicelines.I'm not saying it can't happen, but until we get a confirmation that costumes can change a character's voice lines, I'm not comfortable assuming that Mecha Frieza will be anything other than a separate character, as he has been in all previous BT games.
>>487093249Changing voicelines with costume changes is easier than changing movesets. Especially if it's just a filter applied over the regular lines.
>>487070979do pvp
>>487097927didn't you used to be a girl? or am I thinking of another white majin with wings
>>487098214i enjoy the MAM passive and their combos in pvp, so i've been playing them more lately. 25% reduced damage received is pretty good. the defense penalty at <30% stamina isn't too bad when you consider that you're usually about to lose if you're that low stamina with any character.
>>487090739>The issue is mecha frieza never actually fought in any media, so any moveset he has would just be a copypaste of his final form movesIt's not like Freeza only has 3 moves. Tenkaichi 3 itself has completely different specials for both of them.
If I can run Tekken 8 I can run Sparking Zero, right?
>>487024498>the transformation in game is considered equivalent to mastered UIlearn to read
>>487103118I hope so because my deck runs T8 perfectly and I want to enjoy Tenkaichi 4 in my bed
>>487090739RB2 Mecha Frieza has 7 Supers and a Unique Ultimate, sharing 2 moves with Final Form.
>At SDCC's Dragon Ball Booth, there will be a special illustration of Goku drawn by Toyotarou on display.>The booth will be filled to the brim with the latest Dragon Ball info, including a special section featuring Dragon Ball DAIMA.>San Diego Comic-Con starts July 25th.Next arc info soon.
>>487120474wasn't his ultimate just a two handed death ball?
>>487120757We already know for a fact that thanks to the rights dispute we aren't gonna have new dragonball content after daima for a long time especially if they take it to the courts which they seem like they're gonna do because Iyou isn't backing down, he wants everything and Shueisha isn't backing off because they want to protect their legacy IP and only leave it to Heroes now Divers and maybe a promotional anime. Remember, Iyou's the guy who was part of the dragon room that Shuiesha never used and the guy who screwed Shuiesha over to make Sandland just to make Toriyama happy and finally Iyou is the guy who has a 10 year plan for games and anime. He's got all these ambitions but his only levierage is being close to Toriyama's family who don't really have much legal power, it all depends on how willing a giant corporation like Shuiesha is willing to respect Toriyama's family wishes.
>>487121932>thanks to the rights dispute we aren't gonna have new DB content except for all the new DB content such as Daima, Sparking Zero, Kakarot S3, XV2 dlc number 41254210, Super Divers...
>>487123003nta but you and I both know that is creek water bubbling over the dam
>>487120834It's the One finger Supernova to Trunks.
>>487125687huh, I don't remember that at all
Remember Goku's Iconic line>I did 1 push up today, I'm vastly stronger than you could ever imagine Frieza!Only for Frieza to say>Oh hohohohoho! I did 1.5 push up And Goku looked in horror at how strong he was?
>>487130219>i'm stronger than an ant, if an ant was this big!
S0 has taught me that DBfans have not played any other fighting game or even other DB games,
>>487140623>other fighting gameWell S0 is not a fighting game for one. That's DBFZ.
>>487140623You think any modern DB fan knows how to throw a combo? Nah, they're all raw super spammers.
>>487140623DBfans have not Read the manga, watched the anime, played the games.Actually they only watch power scaling videos. Most of them are secondaries that know next to nothing while spewing waste out like it's the truth, if you see them criticize, Super/Z/GT you often find they miss very basic shit because their opinion was formed by what others have said, They know GT is "Bad" because others said that, and will jump in without hesitation to dunk on it to "fit" in only to reveal they know absolutely nothing, same with super. They at most saw saw Abridged and nothing else.
>>487141772It's especially bad since most of those same people still push the "Piccolo is Gohan's real dad" shit. I understand everyone had to train for the Saiyan's arrival, Piccolo's training sessions with Kid Gohan were nothing short of straight up torture. People forget that he was literally the main villain before Raditz showed up, and took a bit of pleasure in killing Goku at the end of that fight. And while he has softened-up a lot since then, it doesn't change the fact that he still trains like that with Gohan's daughter Pan, who is currently 3 YEARS OLD. Like sure, she CAN handle it and IS stronger than Gohan was at that age, but it doesn't change the fact that THAT type of training is normal, especially compared to Roshi's Turtle School regimen.
>>487143204>THAT type of training is NOT normal, especially compared to Roshi's Turtle School regimen.Damn fingers be skipping words.
>>487143204>People forget that he was literally the main villain before RaditzPeople have not watched that part. They simply don't know.>and IS stronger than Gohan was at that ageFucking wild how diluting the saiyan in the blood makes a character stronger by the looks of it. She's only 1/4th saiyan so where is this power coming? Humans aren't as strong as saiyans or the 1/2 hybrids. Future Trunks should pop out a baby with Mai or someone to test it out (except Trunks is weaker than his dad).
>>487143204>>487143764how do we know 3yo Pan is stronger than Gohan? I don't think she had a feat as impressive as angry Gohan breaking Raditz's armor
>>487144331nta but because Gohan just got weaker.Krillin is stronger than Gohan.Don't ask for a source, I talked to Gohan and he told me this himself.
>>487143764While that is true, not knowing something isn't a good excuse to push a false narrative. Piccolo's one of my favorite characters, but I'm not going to put him on a pedestal like most fans. He's not perfect, and he's not a good father figure.>>487144331I mostly based it on her handling the training better than Gohan did. Though to be fair, she was involuntary flying as an infant, and that only stopped when she became a conscious being. Hell, I'm pretty sure she went Super Saiyan in the womb.
>>487144331IIRC Pan didn't even do much in Super except some filler or gag scenes. Nothing really to indicate her being stronger than kid Gohan.>>487144750>I'm pretty sure she went Super Saiyan in the wombEven Videl had blonde hair in that scene, she most certain didn't go SS. The ritual didn't require them to go SS so it was probably just a visual thing mostly for the viewer. They were sharing their ki to give to Goku so she and Pan got the golden aura from the others.
Deflecting a blast 2 grants you a buff (faster charge I think)
>>487148565Ooh, there's an incentive to deflecting. Now that's good stuff.
>>487148982ki being the best resource for movement and damage it basically means you want the buff on you at all times
So if pulling a saiyan's tail is considered a mating act...what happens if you pull a majin's head tentacle?
>>487149947Considered racist.
>>487144750>>487145679BoG didn't have Videl go SSJ so I'll trust that over the extended Toei retelling
>>487143764I think the implication is saiyans inherit a power equal to the baseline of their parents. Which is why Gohan was at about Piccolo Jr-tier Goku as a little kid, and why Goten could go SSJ without even needing to really train for it. If Goku were to put another one in Chichi now, the kid would probably be capable of SSG as an infant. Pan, even being diluted as much as she is, should be somewhere around where Gohan was during the Namek saga. If she was half-blooded she'd be as good as Ultimate Gohan.
We got a more indepth look at Custom Battle mode, and our fist look at playable Chiaotzu.https://youtu.be/20w6OvvsMg0>you can change locations around the map within the same cutscene>the special events that occur can be quite diverse for example, when you defeat a character the screen fades to black, a cutscene plays, the 3 characters go on standby and Krillin comes in>There are end cutscenes, for example when Satan wins Goku comes in and turns blue, confirming we can have figurants that are just there for cutscenes (because we go from DBS Goku to Blue Goku, you can't have both on the team, so this is a cutscene thing)It doesn't appear that non-playable characters like Bulma are in this mode.
>>487144750>she was involuntary flying as an infant, and that only stopped when she became a conscious beingYou people make up the most hilarious copes to not accept random fillershit isn't canon
>>487154310>confirming we can have figurants that are just there for cutscenes>It doesn't appear that non-playable characters like Bulma are in this mode.nah i don't believe it, npcs would explain that Chichi pic and also it's a great monetization opportunity for them as they could sell said npcs. Pay 1 buck to put Monaka in there, pay 1 buck to put Bacterian in there, etc etc
Will S0 show us the first time Goku had sex and how he had sex?? And a What if Goku wore a condom removing Gohan from the Z saga???
>>487154310>>There are end cutscenes, for example when Satan wins Goku comes in and turns blue, confirming we can have figurants that are just there for cutscenes (because we go from DBS Goku to Blue Goku, you can't have both on the team, so this is a cutscene thing)Wonder if you can make a Goku boss fight where he goes through all his transformations
>>486986743>>486990086>future Trunks (sword) vs Android 17 and Android 18 in the future>future Trunks (sword) vs Mecha Freeza (and Cold if he makes it)>future Trunks (sword) and Vegeta (and maybe Yamcha, Tenshinhan and Krillin for representation) vs Android 17 and Android 18>future Trunks (fighter) vs Vegeta training in RoSaT>future Trunks (fighter) vs Semiperfect Cell and Vegeta>future Trunks (fighter) vs perfect Cell>future Trunks (fighter) and maybe Yamcha, Tenshinhan and Krillin again vs Cell Jr.>future Trunks (fighter) vs Android 17 and Android 18 final match>future Trunks (fighter) vs imperfect Cell>future Trunks (Super) and Shin vs Dabura (and Babbidi if he makes it)>future Trunks (Super) vs Black>future Trunks (Super) vs Goku training>future Trunks (Super) and Goku vs Black and Zamasu>future Trunks (Super) vs Black final match>future Trunks (Super vs Merged ZamasuI feel like that's enough for one story mode, if you add present Trunks you would have to include too>kid Trunks vs Vegeta training>kid Trunks vs Goten>Gotenks vs Super Buu>Gotenks vs Super Buu final match>Gotenks vs Beerus?
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>>487149947>if pulling a saiyan's tail is considered a mating actBut they're shown to be in pain from that.
>>487156595Not so much pain directly, but rather they're incredibly sensitive. Like a clitoris. It stands to reason that in certain contexts it can be highly pleasurable to touch
>>487154818>npcs would explain that Chichi pic Yeah it’s totally not strange at all that she’s somehow the only “npc” out all those screenshots on the Custom Battle screen.
>>487157296
>>487157296>>487158391Shenron.
>>487157296freeza ship (Sentient Mode)
>>487161441Freeza’s ship is playable.
>>487154574There is no filler in super. Retards like you using filler wrong is why you have retards skipping important shit all the time.
>>487149947you'll join the same club as Dyspo
>>487161741It's like B3's Frieza's Hovercar costume except he flies above the top of the ship
>>487154310>https://youtu.be/20w6OvvsMg0>1:52That's a lot of tracking in that Dodonpa
>>487168097Holy shit
>>487168303jesus that's practically a fucking right angle
>>487168303That's quite the assassin technique
>>487168303I knew they added some tracking to beams but damn
>>487162491Except there is, not only there's shit not in Toriyama's outline that was contradicted by his movies (like Trunks involvement in the RoF retelling or Pan flying) there are even completely original mini arcs between Toriyama's actual arcs
>>487171824That's not filler, you retard. They weren't waiting for Toriyama to write more outlines, they were filling out the outline, you absolute mongoloid.
>>487168303>Ten uses autoaim
>>487154574>Y-y-you people with brain will actually pay attention and say stuff that already has precedent with Gohan unknowingly using his powers in ways he can't do consciously instead of accepting my tantrum/dbs/ is that way.
>>487172408>it's not FILLER because they were FILLING stuff (not only from the outline but also stuff unrelated to it too, btw)Sorry you got invested in filler I guess
>>487172867Sorry you got bullied out of /a/ again and can't communicate in any other way than this schizo babble.
>>487173963Sorry a projection is the only thing you can muster to not admit Super had filler, I expected an argument, but I guess I overestimated you.
>>487174382>No uSad. Hope you recover from your mental breakdown and go back to your containment shithole.
>>487174382>Hmmm, good sir, it's not very wholesome chungus of you to dismiss me as a retard, you were supposed to write a thesis explaining precisely your points with academic sources while I screamed and smeared my shit on the wallsNobody is taking homework assignements from a retard who doesn't know what 'filler' means.
>>487173963>>487174956>>487175310NTA, but posts like this are pretty much 1:1 /a/ mannerisms. The rest of /dbg/ does not talk like this.
xenoverse made me obsessed with majin girls and that blue sexy demon chick....
>>487175665>No uOkay, samefag.
>>487175824As I said, I'm not the other anon, plus I do agree with you that the Dragon Ball Super anime is full of non-canon filler. You just need to articulate yourself better without using buzzwords.
>>487175665>The rest of /dbg/ doesn't call the /dbs/ reject what he is and use the term 'schizo babble' or 'containement shithole'Why are you blatantly lying like that? We can check the archive and see the general speak like that even 5 years ago.
>>487174956>>487175310>still no arguments, not even an attemptGood to see you noticed there's absolutely not a single thing you can do to pretend Super didn't have filler.
>>487176030This is 4chan, you'll always see buzzwords, get used to it. It's not a new phenomenon.> plus I do agree with you that the Dragon Ball Super anime is full of non-canon filler. So you don't agree with me and you're a retard who doesn't know what filler is.
>>487176163>Pointing out I don't know what filler means is not an argumentCope.How do you feel whenever you try to post your verbal diarrhea on /a/ only to see 'you are banned'?
>>487176163NTA, but the fact that the DBS anime and manga were created on different terms, only following a set outline from Toriyama, means that which ever events overlap are most likely the ONLY canon parts of Dragon Ball Super. Which if you look at the big picture, isn't really compared to either the anime or manga adaptations. Toriyama was a VERY hand-off type of person.>>487176258... Are you implying filler is canon?
>>487176057>Why are you blatantly lying like that?Because his previous '''bait''' blew up in his face so he's trying another angle.
>>487168303that's a really satisfying curve damn
>>487176705>... Are you implying filler is canon?No, I'm saying the anime has no filler, which everyone with a basic understanding of the words they use already know.>means that which ever events overlap are most likely the ONLY canon parts of Dragon Ball Super. It doesn't, you're extremely retarded.
Im the only person on the planet still holding out hope that they'll release vizbigs of the super manga
>>487176454You never pointed out anything, you pathetically tried to say filling isn't filler and didn't even address the samples of "filling" that didn't have anything to do with the story and were just original mini-arcs Toei did all on their own.Goku hiring Hit isn't a plot point of one of the actual arcs that got extended, it was original filler. Beerus dressing up as Monaka isn't part of another Toriyama arc either, but original filler. "Super Great Saiyaman" was also made up independently, like the rest of the filler.And the worst part is that you keep coping and projecting about /a/ when I'm trying to have an argument here, you are pathetic.
>Burger hours>We get an argument about 'filler'4chan is 18+ only. Filler means 'content made while waiting for more source material to be made', nothing else. You should go back to JJK twitter already.
>>487176950Wait, why are you answering both? I though the two posts I was replying to were two different anons fighting with each other.
>>487177423>I-i-i'm trying to have a proper debate here!!!Nobody is gonna have proper debate with some faggot from /dbs/ who doesn't know what filler is.Not a single from of the anime is filler, it is not what filler is and you are retarded.
>>487175665I accept your concession
>>487177487>Wait, why are you answering both?Because people can react to anything you say and if they disagree or know you're wrong, they can say that even if what you said was said in reply to someone else.How fucking new are you? Are you 12?You realize that there are multiple people in this discussion, right? This general had an average of like 100 unique IPs when IPs were still counted.
>>487175665If you haven't noticed, every goddamn time someone babbles about /a/tards they """coincidentally""" use the same lingo as them. Don't engage, stick sane DB (vidya) discussion
>>487178015>Every time someone point out I'm an obvious tourist shitting up the thread, no uThat was a sad attempt.
>>487177437You know very well it's summer, and for some reason every thread on this website has its resident "I want to argue with myself" poster who constantly spams threads whenever people want to discuss the actual topic.
literally who cares about fillerrrrr it doesnt matter HHHHHHHHHH
>>487178351There is no 'arguing with myself', a retard made a delusional point about 'filler' and won't let go of it while anons shit on him for it. I'm not on your side.
>>487177749>no haha I won't debate because you don't know anything despite addressing and debunking my attempts at arguments, with zero intention of arguing back from my partEnjoy your totally-not-filler self-contained original Toei adventure unrelated to the main plots and arcs Toriyama made for Super then, Dunning Kruger-kun.
>>487178708F-forma de Tortuga...!?
>>487179151The strongest form of them all.
>>487178708>I cried and talked like they taught me in /dbs/, that cancels out me not knowing the word I'm using, debate me nowNo. None of the Super is filler, you do not know what that word means.
>>487178708>>487179151>>487179350>I'm not from /dbs/!>*immediately outs himself*All that cope for this.
Piccolo to Pan in Super Hero:>you can’t even fly yetPiccolo in DBS anime ending >clearly sees Baby Pan flying Pan flying before Super Hero never happened. Toriyama willed it.
>>487179803Why did you reply to me, I made a joke about the turtle suit...
>>487179812>Please ignore Gohan using a ki blast subconsciously when Piccolo threw him at a mountain
>>487178708>>487179540>>487179803HHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHpost underrated heroes cards I should buy instead of saving for college
>>487180423Ultra Instinct Goku
>>487180423That card is ugly as fuck
>>487130372Damn I thought of quoting the same...
>>487180423shine attack has to be the lamest attack
>>487168303Anybody else HATE the fact that thin beams like this and the death beam don't pierce anymore?And that they still haven't fixed that retarded Xenoverse 2 quirk that makes you get hit on top of the beam instead of it actually touching or engulfing you?
>>487180423But... why? If you want DB stuff for collecting just get figures.
>>487143204>Piccolo's training sessions with Kid Gohan were nothing short of straight up torture.Which makes Goihan saying Piccolo isn't that bad in the manga itself completely baffling. Piccolo abandoned him for six months, his training was rather harsh, and when he wasn't beating up Gohan he was being an asshole.>it doesn't change the fact that he still trains like that with Gohan's daughter PanHe's not anywhere near as harsh with her, while he does attack her, she's not getting any visible wounds like he did with Gohan.>especially compared to Roshi's Turtle School regimen.Roshi's training was harsh on its own ways, like swimming in a lake filled with sharks, and trying to dodge wasps while tied to a tree. The first training was even to find a rock, and whoever doesn't get it won't eat dinner.
>>487177437>Filler means 'content made while waiting for more source material to be made'
>>487182937Gohan said that because Goku said Piccolo isn't as bad as his father, as in not pure evil
I wonder if people still pretend this game looks bad
>>487154310Don't like that non-flying characters like Hercule can just zoom up after people even in the air, and will just hover up there for the duration of their attacks. I didn't like it in the old games, either.
>>487180250>>487172613I hope you aren't honestly trying to compare Pan to Gohan because Gohan never did anything as a baby he couldn't do consciously later as a toddler. His rage boosts (which never happened when he was a baby) are unrelated to age.For those two to be similar baby Gohan should have been overpowering Goku while still in the cradle but then he would have been harmless when he meet the others at Kame House, just like Pan could fly to the stratosphere with a dirty diaper but then in kindergarten she couldn't even levitate the first months of training with Piccolo.
>>487186473This.
>>487186473>Him unconsciously blowing up a mountain with ki blast unconsciously doesn't countCope
When the hell is that new trailer dropping?
>>487186473>>487187203>He had to agree with himselfLol. Lmao.
>>487187660?
>>487187660>everyone who disagrees with me is the same person>>487187242He didn't do that as a mindless baby, nor did it constantly, like Pan and her flying so yeah it's not the same under any logic
>>487177423forgot show shit super looks most of the time, thank god daima seems to have a good schedule
you really gotta stop letting this guy suck you into stupid arguments every day
>>487188528You are gonna be called a schizo again
>>487186473So much this.
>>487184537Some models are better than others.
>>487188101>>487188237Nice inspect element, samefag.
>>487189475Inspect this *unzips*
>>487188237>Unconsciously using Ki powers doesn't count because he did it later and it's not 'consistent' despite Piccolo literally noticing a pattern and exploiting itMassive cope.>>487188528It's hard to resist a free retard to bully.
>>487189475
Vegeta's long-ass fingers
>>487189653Sorry, I don't have a microscope available.
Since we're all having a gentlemanly discussion about power scaling I always assumed that people in super and the newer arcs, like Pan, were stronger than the characters in the old arcs, like Gohan, because everybody else was just leaking super muscle energy from their bodies and it was getting absorbed by the weaker people.Like Pan hugs Goku and her muscles grow because Goku is so cool and strong.
>>487189679>being a baby who does everything unconsciously (ki powers included) isn't the same as being older, in your right mind, and (regardless of age) use some ki powers in determinate situationsYeahLike I said if Gohan was like your idea of Pan he would have been overpowering Goku in the cradle, or if Pan was like Gohan she would have never ever been able to fly in DBS until SH because she would have never been pressed to
>>487189832don't mind it in motion but looks like shit when you compare it>>487190181this has been the most common theory among fans, SSR Trunks has a line or two about touching Vegeta to get stronger and absorb his god power
>>487189475Get a real argument, faggot.
>>487190767>It's not the same as a completely different situation from Gohan's, who didn't even know he did anything, just like Pan did with flying>If I repeat myself, it'll stop being wrongOkay so it's the same as how Gohan worked, just like Pan once again started flying unconsciously in Super Hero itself.So you're just obviously wrong.
>>487191005Get a new cope, samefag.
>>487178015>ss4LB noteGOD FUCKING DAMMIT I WANT TO PLAY WITH HER SO BAD DIMPSU! MAKE FUCKING WM2 SO I CAN GIVE THE FURRY FORMS ALL THE LOVE THEY'VE BEEN LACKING! GOD FUCKING DAMMIT I HAD ANOTHER DREAM ABOUT HEROES, GETTING REAL HEROES CARDS (I can even remember a couple, I know UM8-SEC2 was there, MM5-020 Goku, a Block Burst Pikkon card, and maybe something else). I AM SO DOWN BAD FOR THIS FUCKING CARD GAME, JUST LET ME DISAPPEAR INTO MY CAVE IN THE CENTER OF THE GOD DAMN EARTH YOU FUCKING NINGENS!>>487180423>SDBH cardsFirst, remember jp.mercari.com/en as the first site to look, Ebay is scam turbo, sadly you might have to join Ryannu's discord for help on how to get cards there if mercari can't ship to you.>Cards to look atI'd just go for the SDBH card database and look at SRs/URs and maybe even promos depending on your characters. I know I'd want BM8-SEC3 Masked Black, BM10-SEC2 Masked Black, UM6-SEC3 Zamasu, and even some decks I have. The UGM8-SEC LC promo for MM6 is super fucking hype to me.>>487180508Mortal, do you know how little that narrows it down? There's enough UI Gokus to make the hapsburg family tree.
>>487191141>admits it's not the same, then claims to be the sameAnon you are clearly having a meltdown because you are alone in this so I will give you one more chance to understand and try to explain yourself.>Gohan never did "unconscious" exceptional feats willingly like Pan did, they appeared instantly and instinctively and were done instantly too>Gohan never did "unconscious" exceptional feats as a baby like Pan did, he was already a person with a mind on his own>Gohan never did "unconscious" exceptional feats constantly like Pan did, he needed special input>Gohan never forgot how to do any "unconscious" exceptional feat he was already able to replicate consistently like Pan did, if he could do it consistently at some point, he could still do it laterExcusing Pan's superhuman baby play with Gohan's mentally unstable rage boosts is genuinely baffling so I'm curious if you really have something good to back it up
>>487193096>Pointing out that Gohan wasn't in his right mind nor did he know how to use is agreeing it's not the same!You can't even read, no wonder you're getting something that obvious wrong.>I'm curious if you really have something good to back it upI do, it's calling actually watching the show / reading the manga.
>>487191337weirdo
>>487193096This. He has no further arguments, but watch him continue to cope.
>>487193594I'm starting to think you are just that guy making vague posts agreeing with me so he can strawman by calling me a samefag and avoid arguing. Or maybe it's just that I never post just to say "I agree with that guy" but honestly you are starting to sound like the perfect excuse for him
>>487193096>>487193594>>487194202>Samefagging this blatantlyYou're not even trying.
>>487194285How could you tell?
>Local retard is mindbroken by a baby forgetting something as they grow upWait until he hear about babies and swimming.
Unrelated but I find pretty funny how furfags almost always lump UFPS4LB with SS4 just to sell the idea their furryshit is strong or relevant. If it was UFPS4 I could get it because the form is so shit it doesn't even look different from SS4, but UFPS4LB is a Heroes-original two levels above GT famous SS4 form but if you dare to mention how SS4 is weaker than any new form Goku got in Super they always defend how this other form Heroes made 20 years later is paired up with some form above SSB
>>487194535Freeza didn’t know what fusion was in Broly, despite seeing Gotenks defuse in the anime. Let’s see your cope against that.
>>487194202>>487193594See? I apologize if you aren't him but I knew he was gonna do it, anything but using actual arguments
>>487194919>Seeing someone defuse is the same as knowing what the fusion dance is.Your copes are sad at this point.
>>487194919He will probably say Freeza thought it was some split power or something despite Freeza calling it a fusion and noting the splits are original people (one son of Goku, another one "son" of future Trunks) but honestly don't bother you know he will never admit Toriyama never gave a fuck about all that stuff they made up
>>487195296>He has to make up an argument in his head to agree with himself
>>487193470I activate my super attack: Psychic Blast!
>>487194919Trunks also saw the saiyan (actually Frieza) armor but in Broly movie he doesn't know Frieza's gang uses them and instead calls Frieza soldiers 'guys wearing armors like papa's' kek but I guess he likes Ginyu-Tagoma too much to accept he's not part of the story
>>487194919I don't remember Frieza talking about fusion either way in the sub of the Broly movie.
>>487195645>Actual episodes aren't part of the story because I got bullied on 4chanLol, still mad you didn't know what filler meant? Poor little /dbs/ reject.
>>487195487>Psychic Blast!Weak to my super attack: Snu snu
>>487195645>Kid call clothes like those worn by his dad 'like dad's' instead of using the name of a dude that mean nothing to himAnd?
>>487195717He probably mean Frieza complaining that fusion isn't fair after Gogeta say it multiply the combined power of the ones fusing by a lot.
i hope the move to superdivers doesn't end up with them killing all the xeno designs, some of them are pretty cool
>>487194919>despite seeing Gotenks defuse in the animeIrrelevant to your argument, I can't remember when this happened. My first thought was RoF movie but skimming through it I can't find a scene with Gotenks if he's in the movie at all.
>>487195717>>487196650When Gogeta shows up Freeza is confused by this "fusion" and he explains slurpza didn't know about it because he was dead for a long time
>>487196845Xeno Goku literally never used the nyoibo, it's insane
>>487196446fucking kek
>>487196952I don't see how that contradict anything, it's not because he saw Goten and Trunks for 5 seconds that he'd randomly know the details of fusing, the name of the move and that the dude who suddenly appeared was a fusion.
>>487195717>>487196650
>>487196845I'm sure the Xeno characters will return eventually. Though I would like to see what-if stuff that doesn't have to pertain to Time Breaker shenanigans, like Heroes was before God Mission.
>>487197302>CombinedWhat the fuck kind of version did you get this from?
>>487197239According to the RoF yes, seeing Gotenks defuse into Goten and Trunks in 5 seconds was enough for him to know the faggot in arabian clothes look was two saiyans fusing into one
>>487197302Missing the part where Frieza complains that fusion is unfair and Gogeta calling him a hypocrite.>>487197460Combined, merged, fused. The japanese word is 合体 gattai so they're all accurate.
>>487197554lmao >>487197302 Guess that's the original, thanks for posting>>487197460Japanese use gattai which means to combine or merge, "fusion" is only used for that specific type of fusion but the general term in japanese is indeed combine/merge
The Gotenks scene is anime-only, it's not in the movie.Now does the 'canon' timeline use the movies or tv anime?
>>487197568>>487197302>>487197554It's okay, Freeza was a baby during RoF so he had forgotten by the time Broly takes place
>>487197973Toriyama said the anime. DBS Broly and Super Hero directly follow it.
The biggest crime of DBS Broly was wasting the best part of the Broly vs Gogeta OST on Cheelai and Lemo running.
>>487198127>Frieza didn't know the details of fusing and that Gogeta was a fusion>That mean my cope tantrum after my first tantrum got shut down by a simple definition was totally legitYou're still mad? Damn.
>>487198391>he has no more cope arguments left
>>487198454Watch out to not have a heart attack next time you see the definition of an anime filler
>>487197973That's the thing, the schizo thinks Toriyama took into account the stuff the anime made up
>>487198770>Stuff made by Toei doesn't count, just look at that movie made by Toei, which has a minor contradiction if you are arguing in bad faith>It's everyone making fun of me who is schizo BTW
It's cute how they were first titled 合体おとうさん gattai otousan aka "fused fathers"
>>487198127
>>487198770How do you feel when you see Toriyama's own word instead of your delusions?
>>487198981>>487199281Sameschizo
>>487199070Gotenks' failed fusion states are called Fat Gotenks and Thin Gotenks, while Gogeta's failed states are refered to as Veku officially, even though he calls himself Gogeta-sama. Much to think about.
>>487199389A swing and a miss.
Rate my figure
>>487199513Nice Inspect Element!
Coming soon: GILF Chi-Chi reveal in Sparking Zero.
Boss has finally managed to win one over them, she said if they behave until the festival they get to participate so Conton is gonna be free of trouble for a while. everyone should congratulate the boss for this genius move.
>>487199575Take your meds.>>487199519Bulge isn't big enough.
>>487199513According to one of you guys, that's actually an edit kek
I made all of these posts btw.
>>487199770Congratulation.
>>487199417>he calls himself Gogeta-samaHas to show Vegeta's ego somehow. Atleast Gotenks wasn't called Trunten.
>>487199950Based.
>>487199519>Broly Gear 5
>>487199828Sounds like you're just seething you got caught samefagging.
>>487199714It's kind of amazing how well Chi-Chi aged compared to Bulma, she looked like a bitter old hag in end of Z I wonder if Vegeta even plapped her anymore, meanwhile the country hick still looks doable even through she likely hasn't been plapped since they made Goten wayy back before the Cell games. Videl aged horribly tho especially in GT through it might of been the awful hairstyle they gave her.
>>487200270Future Bulma was a hag too and she was hot even with no Vegeta around to dick her down. I swear it's the awful hairstyle especially in EoZ.
>>487200510Christ what the fuck went wrong with Bra in GT? It's like they didn't even bother to try and make her a unique character that had some of Bulma's traits and some of Vegeta's, she's just somehow an even sluttier dragonball era Bulma that isn't smart nor displays any saiyan strength like Pan, She and Goten got done dirty by Toei
Step back and think, would Goku approve of your post?
>almost always write bejita instead of vegetaThis rot runs deep I need to cleanse myself.
>>487201565I remember this episode...
>>487193470Note is PURE, I implore you to delete this libellous image
>>487202058She's pure alright.A Pure idiot!
>>487202058PURE sex!
>>487202058
The month is ending in a bit over a week and we STILL don't have a date for the next trailer.
>>487200270It's because Bulma refuses to acknowledge her age and is constantly trying to tart herself up to hide it which only accentuates it more. She also doesn't really take care of her health (drinking, smoking, no exercise), and has to deal with the stress of a violent psychopath husband/spoiled rotten son/running a multinational industrial conglomerate.By contrast, Chichi is a simple redneck farm girl who gets constant exercise and fresh air, and is surrounded by men who love and dote on her and keep her sharp. She unironically won, which is why the scene on Namek of Bulma quietly seething over how she "let Goku get away" will always be funny. She hooked up with Vegeta because he was a Saiyan and she hoped she could tard wrangle him into treating her like how Goku treats Chichi
>>487190936I fucking hate that they have a pretty reasonable explanation for every new saiyan/half saiyan form with God Ki and they just...don't use it for some reason? Trunks was fighting with and against Gods so just have him adapt and absorb some of that God Ki and you have a new form that is somewhat earned and not a complete asspull showing up out of nowhere. It's already fucking blue too. Same thing with Beast Gohan
>>487203808Well at least we dont have to worry about pan getting some kind of asspull formBecause This series seems intent on never giving her any kind of form ever, not even in heroes
>>487200829I think the joke they were going for with her is that Vegeta, the hard-line prideful prince of the saiyans, allowed himself to get twisted around the little finger of his little princess. That after running Trunks ragged to live up to his saiyan ancestry, he melted like snow in summer the instant he set sight on Bulla's baby blues. Even the most powerful of men are helpless when confronted with their daughters.
>>487204067I remember they tried to say it was because she's only quarter saiyan, only to then make the Legacy of Goku special where Goku Jr goes SSJ despite only being like 1/32 saiyan something.
>>487200829To be fair, it's not like EoZ gave them anything to build upon. EoZ Bulla is just Marron, a little girl who fills page space and is proof of time passing. When Toriyama gave Toei her slutty design for GT, they wrote her as a high-fashion "teenage" girl.
>>487204087tbf he was also seemingly a bit better of a dad with trunks during super, given he worked through most of his bullshit in buu. I think even bra'd get a bit of a shitty upbringing if she was made pre-buu
>>487205276Why did toriyama even bother making Bra? she solely exists for that one "where are they now" introduction page to End of Z, I get making pan as gohan and videl having a kid is fine enough for a timeskip but why did vegeta need a second kid?
>>487205276Man, look at them, Toriyama really gave no fucks about GT these designs look so unlike him the only ones with a hint of fucks given are Satan, Krillin and Goku
>>487205276I really want to know what the fuck happened to Vegeta's hair.
>>487205285>SuperBulla is a newborn in Super, I thought we were talking about GT. In GT, Vegeta is still pretty tough on Trunks. Ragging on him for not training, like he did to Gohan during the Buu saga. >hypothetical pre-Buu BullaThinking about it, there never were any real peeks into how females were treated in Saiyan society. The only named Saiyan female was Fasha who got like three lines of dialogue. We have no clue how saiyans would treat their daughters>>487205471More saiyanesses = good>>487205276Bulla being a bit of a princess makes sense, but Marron being the way she is doesn't seem right. Krillin might be a pushover of a dad but there's no way 18 would tolerate her being bratty. Considering her genetics, she probably wouldn't even have the capacity for it. It would make more sense if she were more deadpan like 18 but still warmhearted like Krillin.
>>487205276You just know he was cackling drawing Vegeta.
>>487206582imagine him super saiyan
>>487195902Ah I know this POV, it's called the arcade scene when you lost the PLBP, I know the rules as do you. I accept it. Feral cowgirl is a fine way to go out, not peak like the illusive degeneracy of handholding. >>487197054>incorrect buzzer noiseAn early BM card had him use the Dragon Pole, now the gag is that it was given to a card that was mostly used in slow decks that didn't want him to use his super attack because otherwise you lost the 50% DMG reduction, so functionally it didn't exist but technically did. And yes it's the same animation as Sealas' super attack in UM8 that we have in WM, this was BM2, before the time they'd go beyond hard for the super attack animations.https://youtu.be/h6TCGGCePFI?t=80
>>487206023In the manga after she finally aged she seems to be a spoiled happy girl, she only appeared for one page but at least we know that she looks nothing like how she looks in GT and does not display the same personality she did in GT either, Bra doesn't either she seems to have her mother's technological talents where as Trunks apparently doesn't, he's a bit of an idiot on that front, through I guess it fits because mainline Trunks didn't grow up in hell like Future Trunks did, he grew up a spoiled rich kid with super powers and a boner for a a girl whose grooming him specifically because she got horny for his other self, I still find it weird how Mai has aged into a teenager while Pilaf and Shu still look like toddlers Man I hope Iyou wins the lawsuit and gets everything as much as I shit on him and Toyotaro Shueiha and Toei would do way worse damage
>>487197302>>487197568Wait how does Freeza not know what fusion is? Caulifla and Kale fused into Kefla during ToP... Did Toriyama just forget that or was Kefla not part of his notes?
>>487207418Kefla actually appears in the broly movie during that small flashback sequence to the ToP fighters during the beginning, so she's canon to the VISION
>>487202058>Note>pure>when she dresses like this as a mere teen
>>487207547Yeah I know she shows up there, though it doesn't mean Toriyama was thinking of Kefla when he wrote that dialogue. I'm just wondering if Toriyama legit forgot about her during that dialogue or maybe she wasn't really on his notes.
>>487207348>In the manga after she finally aged she seems to be a spoiled happy girl, she only appeared for one page but at least we know that she looks nothing like how she looks in GTWhen was this? Granolah's arc?
>>487208037I dont think frieza actually fought or interacted with kefla at all, honestly I cant even remember him interacting with the u6 saiyans in the anime version of the ToP in general
>>487208220the CLEANGOD arc or whatever we call the manga prelude to superhero, she fixes some stuff in capsule corp once trunks comes over to do something. Somehow making present trunks even more useless.
>>487207348They're also only around 5 years old in Super, so it could be explained as them not having been 'spoiled' yet. Bulla in GT is shown to be strong enough to defend herself, she just deliberately chooses not to because she wants Vegeta to do it for her. >Mai/ss/ queen grooming her ideal husband, fully redeemed from her idiocy during Goku's childhood. Can't wait for her and Trunks' kid>pilaf and shuThey were short little dwarves even as adults, there's not that big of a shift for them to make.
>>487206856Now I'm just picturing Vegeta as Hulk Hogan.
>>487208221He didn't fight or interact with her, but in both versions he's aware of the fusion (In the anime Freeza was watching Goku fight U6 saiyans all the time, while in the manga it's hard to not notice Kefla after Kale eliminated almost everyone), so even with no interactions he should be aware of fusion.
>>487207938I-ITS FOR MAKING KICKING AND MOVING EASIER
>>487208816He watched the fight between Goku and Kefla. He even had to dodge one of her attacks (so did the rest of U7) when she started blasting everywhere and Goku did the sliding Kamehameha.
>>487208816>>487209275It's not because someone did weird shit in your vicinity that you actually know or understand what that weird shit is.
>>487207348even as old men pilaf and shu just got wrinklier and saggier
Best fusion better be in
>>487211015That design is ass.
Note a cute
>>487211203prove it by posting a better pan/bulla fusion
>>487211641Who is "bulla"? I only know Bra.
>>487211203>crop top>miniskirt>gogo boots>fingerless glovesWhat's wrong with it? The colours don't clash and it's a good mix of Bulla and Pan's clothing. The only issue is it's mixing their normal clothes rather than being the Metamoran outfit fusions are supposed to have.
>>487213417EX-Fusion is a bootleg potara fusion invented by Bulma so it mixes outfits
>>487213896Ah.I wonder what a female metamoran outfit would look like. Would their tits just be out?
>>487213896I like how in the series bulma is unable to build a space ship to go to namek until she gets kami's ship but given like 15 minutes she's willing to whip up EX fusion in the yamcha isekai
>>487214221I don't see why not
>>487214221iirc, some versions of gogeta give him an undershirt for whatever reason, so probably just that but that's boring, so yeah their tits would probably just be out
>>487214221Nothing really wrong with the male outfit, the vest covers the tits. Might flash if it gets windy though.
>>487215359Oh dear, how shameless. They would need to defeat their opponent quickly if they want to maintain their honour and still be eligible for marriage
>>487215359tbqh you would imagine the saiyans, or caulifla at least, wouldn't care a whole lot about modesty.
Calling it nowRage/Wrath form for all CACsLegendary super saiyan form for saiyans
>>487215676What happens during the fusion stays with the fusion. They are pure maidens when they defuse.
>>487202761We usually get one of those YouTube premiere things the day before the trailer appears, so that will be between tomorrow and the 30th and the actual trailer will be the very next day, usually at 10 AM.
>>487216701Fusions are weird to think about. Do you think fusions would have an opinion on the fact that they're about to spontaneously stop existing at some point
>>487216701I've read that incest fanfic
>>487216954Don't fusions retain the memories of the people they fused from, and the people remember the memories of the fusions after they defuse?
>>487217252The one with a Goten/Trunks fusion fucking Bra/Pan? Yeah, me too.Was funny when it mentioned Goku and Vegeta would check to see if Bra and Pan would have their hymens intact, and that's the excuse why they have fusion sex, because even if a fusion loses virginity, the people involved in the fusion don't once it's over.
>>487216954The participants going in are expecting to defuse so I don't think they fusion personality would care that they're going to split. Someone like Vegeta would just want to get it over with and split asap and that prob extends to the consciousness of the fusion.
>>487217662they do, but they still seem to treat themselves like an independent person "I am goku, nor vegeta" and all that, you know.
>>487217957Piccolo had the same line after fusing with Kami but still considers himself both the same person that fought the saiyans and the same person that used to be kami
>>487218384Yeah but that was just piccolo being chunni, given namekian fusion doesn't actually change piccolo at all past making him more powerful. Gogeta and Vegito may as well be different people
>>487217957Potara fusions are different, the expectation is that it's permanent. That being said, Vegito seemed more surprised rather than unwilling when he defused inside Buu.
>>487216954Neither Vegetto in Super, or Gogeta seem to think about it, and Gotenks fused multiple times and casually mentions once or twice his time limit is ending with no existencial dread.It is weird to think about it though, since fusions do consider themselves to be their own individuals, yet they don't really care their existence is temporary.>>487217662Yes for both. Trunks and Goten mention during training that SS3 made the fusion run out earlier, and fusions occasionally are shown to remember information the people involved should know. Fusions still consider themselves another individual however.Speaking of that, it's interesting to note that super Buu only kept the memories of fat Buu, anyone else he absorbed he doesn't have the memories (Since he recognizes Gotenks and Goku and mentions he fought them before, but he doesn't recognize Dende or know of his healing powers, although the anime did add a scene where he had Piccolo's memories).
So how fucked is this franchise gonna be now?
>>487218565tbf, the only time that a fusion has defused and it's not been within a fight where a fusion would actually have time to think about that kind of stuff is gogeta at the end of the broly movie, and we just immediatley smash cut to broly back on vampa and gogeta being defused so not much to go off of there
>>487218574For Toei it all depends in how Daima performsFor Shueisha, they either continue Super with the manga or do some other shit
>>487218565>it's interesting to note that super Buu only kept the memories of fat Buu, anyone else he absorbed he doesn't have the memoriesif you want to stretch it a bit, there's technically no evidence that buu gets any moves from absorbtion either, as it's established that buu can immediately copy any move that he's seen prior and manga super buu only ever uses moves that he's already seen prior. As you mentioned, anime filler super buu knows piccolo's memories and uses the special beam cannon and later the masenko, but I chalk that up to toei not knowing that something is gonna be plot relavent like with piccolo blowing up goku's space pod during filler
>>487218574depends on who wins the current legal battlesif shueisha wins its utterly fucked. nothing but metaverse and nft's and pachinko machines
>>487218907>gogeta goes to chill with whis and bulma before defusingThat'd be a weird interaction.
>>487219286>fluff episode that starts with goku and vegeta being forced to fuse to beat some generic villian guy>gogeta/vegito accidentally onepunches them>rest of the episode is just the fusion getting into antics interacting with the rest of the cast
>>487219537>>487219286Imagine Vegito having to explain to Chichi and Bulma that their husbands are now one person. Imagine if Goku had fused with Gohan as he had originally intended and had to explain to Chichi she was now married to her own son
>>487219537The things we'll never ever get to see. In Broly, you'd think maybe Gogeta would've gone to pick up Bulma from the crater and mess they made unless Whis got her out. She did recognise who he was.
>>487219828They had already seen Gotenks so they know what fusion is. Gogeta is easier to recognise because of the outfit but the layered voice would give it away too.
>>487219880do you think Gohku would have to deal with the memories of his own conception
>>487220075I was more referring to how they would go forwards with their lives afterwards. Do Chichi and Bulma enter into a polygamous relationship? Do they share custody swapping every week? Or for Kuhan, does Chichi just not treat him like her husband anymore? Does Vegito/Kuhan just fuck off and leave them behind because there's no way to reconcile it?
>>487219143Interesting to think about even if Daima does really well they can't really just make more Daima. Its presumably a story arc penned to have a beginning middle and end split into episodes. Everyone will surely be aged back up and you can't really do more Daima once they settled the conflicts.
>>487218907Gotenks in Buu saga fused multiple times before fighting Buu, and while the perfected fusion never really thinks about the timer, fat and skinny Gotenks just waited out to essentially stop existing, and in neither case did they seem like to have a problem with it.In Son Goku and his friends return, we even have Goten and Trunks doing a wrong fusion, resulting in the fat Gotenks, and he just somehow undoes the fusion (In both movie and manga) without a care.While fat Gotenks is usually just for comedic purposes, at no point does it look like any fusion cares about essentially their existence just ending, not even for black comedy.>>487219235Yeah, the best argument you can say that he learned the moves from absortion is that super Buu only started to use them after absorbing someone, but that's stretching it considering that both fat and kid Buus can copy moves from just seeing them, and super Buu, who unlike fat Buu learned to sense ki on his own, being an exception would make no sense.>but I chalk that up to toei not knowing that something is gonna be plot relavent like with piccolo blowing up goku's space pod during fillerI think that's an understandable mistake on their part, because super Buu explicitly absorbed Piccolo for his brains, so it's natural to assume he got Piccolo's memories, but what happened is that absorbing Piccolo made him smarter, without Piccolo's memories, somehow...
>>487219880I thought it was funny how Bulma somehow managed to survive Broly turning the north pole into a volcanic wasteland without getting atomised.
>>487220512They'd probably want to find a way to defuse them with Dragon Balls or science. If that doesn't work then I guess Vegito is now a farmer because Vegeta was a neet anyway.
>>487220710Right before Goku and Broly blow up the ice and fall to the lava stage you can see Vegeta grab Bulma. How she survived after is science magic and Whis.
>>487220840I looked up Vegito on sadpanda to see if anyone came up with ideas, and they did; Bulchi. Potara fusion of Bulma and Chichi.
>>487220597All we know is that 20 episodes were already made a while back with more still being made.Depending how they planned stuff, Daima might last 25 episode like it could last 1000
>>487220276is an incest fusion morally wrong?
>>487221348Bulchi is pretty old. There's a surprising amount of stuff with her and one of the GV fusions.
>>487221504Why's there censored text right besides the (19) and (13)? And what do the numbers mean?
>>487221504these female metamoran clothes are so good they should be canon
>>487221504Now I want Bulchi as a character in BT0
>>487222850Would be funny if they have Chichi be playable and have Bulchi as transformation, much like Kibitoshin is just a transformation for Shin.
Vegeta's Technique/Kikoha Barrage/Energy Volley attacks suck in sparking zero
>>487223552Why are they bad now?
>>487224291awful tracking and therefore damage, and I think they're slower than beams so easier to dodge, no one has used one up close so dk if they're good for that
>>487220662>I think that's an understandable mistake on their partIt's honestly weird that buu DOESN'T gain the people he absorbs, like you would assume that they would but buu just doesn't, for whatever reason. In basically every fanfic i've read everyone just assumes he gets memories and i've never really questioned it until very recently. Kind of like how most fanfics just assume mortal levels are this thing in the setting everyone knows and not something el grande padre made up specifically for the ToP
I like to think as fusion dance fusions being an imperfect version of potara fusions. Which is why fusion dance fusions highlight the worst personality aspects of the two fusees, and potara highlights the best. See: Gotenks having the laziness of Trunks and the idiocy of Goten, whereas Vegito has the wit of Vegeta and the love/mercy of Goku. If they explored the personality of Gogeta, he'd probably be an inversion of Vegito for that reason.
>>487222059It's trying to cover up the names of the fans who submitted the art for some reason.
>>487225393>If they explored the personality of Gogeta, he'd probably be an inversion of Vegito for that reason.Well, we do have GT gogeta, and contrary to popular belief, Gogeta does nothing but dick around constantly and absolutely fumble against omega shenron, he was NOT baiting for the minus energy ball as vegeta shits on goku for not finishing off omega when they had the chance after defusing. I guess you could argue gogeta has Vegeta's sadism and Goku's childlike stupidity
>>487225393Gogeta BR definitely seemed merciless. I don't think anybody has every just chained powerful ki attacks back to back to back like that without pausing to see if their opponent is still kicking
>>487225959Yeah I was thinking about GT Gogeta, but didn't want to really use it as an example because of GT's dubious canonicity.
>>487226153Well I guess you can extrapolate something from gogeta not immediately going to blue, unlike Vegito who went super saiyan instantly against super buu and blue instantly against zamasu
Universe six saiyans look so weak, I hate them.
>>487227021did they copypaste that chin and just draw around it? why is it the only part with a hard black outline?
>>487227021im going to be real I think this redraw actually looks worse proportionally, and its colors are a bad facsimile of Z's, it just looks washed out.
>>487227021Bottom looks like awful horse shit.
>>487227269blame toriyama, I love the stuff he created but I feel like he got so big that no one can ever actually tell him no when it comes to a design. Without toriyama being told no we never would've gotten perfect cell or even 17 and 18
I like this one
>>487227269I like Kale, her base form looking weak works for her and when she's transformed she has a good build.
>>487228182I have to agree on this one only because Cell is my favorite DB character
>>487020320the lack of blood fucking sucks
>>487230704BT3 is when they started reducing the blood in games, I noticed because back when BT3 was new I noticed they removed the blood on Teen Gohan's arm in his battle-damaged Cell arc costume.So fucking retarded.
>>487227269wish he'd have drawn them with a more OG DB style but a bit shorter overall. Especially Cabba, like toriyama saw a picture of mandark and decided that was going to be the new body type for the saiyans
>>487231205I always liked the OGDB style of "these people are clearly built, but they're not just ultra shredded all the time and have a small layer of fat" it's a bit more realistic and looks better than super beefcake
>>487231418I feel like Super beefcake look would look best as transformation exclusive, really making it look they push the body to it's peak limits, kind of like how Kioken used to make Goku's muscles look like they were exploding.
>>487231732yeah but they're always transformed these days, so that'd basically be the default anyways
GT Goku. Base or DLC?Image is from the SDBH website.
for all their penny pinching I'm surprised Toei never used meguca style stock animation for transformations.
>>48722355218's Infinity Bullet seems to be a much better version from what we saw of the demo
>>487232032I never realized how brown GTku was.
>>487232863Anon you can't just say that...
>>487232863GT's shitty colors really lends credit to the insane idea of it being some bizarre off-brand spanish Dragonball. I honestly wouldn't be surprised if people took to Goku because he looks like a tanned child of indeterminate origin. He can be asian, brazillian, mexican, indian, a tanned white boy or a lightskinned black kid. The imagination can work wonders to bring a character "closer" to you.
>>487225338>In basically every fanfic i've read everyone just assumes he gets memories and i've never really questioned it until very recently.I've noticed I had a lot of moments like that in DB, it's weird.>Kind of like how most fanfics just assume mortal levels are this thing in the setting everyone knowsNot that it's something everyone knows, but it is something everyone understands once they learn of it. Even Goku understood it once he was told about, by mentioning Gohan is helping to raise the universe's level with his studies, meaning that Goku knows that mortal levels means an universe that is thriving.>and not something el grande padre made up specifically for the ToPThe way they talked about it, it seems like it was established at least among the gods, even if vaguely.>>487225393Gogeta in Super Broly isn't even that different from Vegetto personality-wise, so I dunno about that.
>>487233670>The way they talked about it, it seems like it was established at least among the gods, even if vaguely.Nah, the way it's brought up during the Zeno exhibition, it's as if beerus and shin had no idea about it. like sure beerus and shin knew what their jobs were but they never actually assumed they had any real accountability for it. He even refuses to take personal responsibility and blames shin
>>487222059the censored text is the name of the person who submitted the art. the number is their age
>>487233670I'd argue Gogeta fucked around with super broly by not immediately going to blue and ending him whereas vegito's fucking around served a point and he locked in the second it achieved its goal
>>487233670I don't remember Gogeta even really talking in Broly. He makes one or two cocky one-liners but no real look into his personality.
>>487234436I'd argue if he went blue right away he risked not dealing enough damage to broly before the fusion wore off since broly would have caught up not long after
>>487234710ehh, it's not like gogeta really did a whole lot in super saiyan before he was forced into blue anyways by broly scaling and he beat him in blue with time to spare
>>487224654They do next to no damage either
>>487235796That's actually how it is in canon too, they paid a lot of attention to that
sonic sway is so bad ass... https://youtu.be/KKnlct2qlk4>inb4 steedoj
>>487234010>it's as if beerus and shin had no idea about it.I checked out the anime and U9 also didn't know about it, so you were right, it seems it's not a known thing, but it's not something El Padre Grande came up with on the spot, since he mentions Zenoh talked about it, so it's just something internal between him and Zenohs.One thing that seems to be consistent between anime and manga is that the gods don't know how well they're doing, because in the manga, the gods from high mortal level universes were relieved they did well.>>487234436DB characters hardly ever end threats immediately even when they know they should do it, so I'm not really holding that against him.I doubt that even if Vegetto wasn't trying to be absorbed, he would still drag the fight for a while before deciding to end it.>>487234464He acts rather cocky on occasion with his constant smirks, doesn't take things too seriously, or at least didn't take Broly that seriously.>>487234710What are you even talking about? If he went blue right away he could just overwhelm Broly.>>487237054Under Toriyama Vegeta's technique can be okay sometimes at least. When Vegeta used it against Gohan, Gohan was hurt from it, and when Goku used it on Cell is put enough pressure that Cell had to use that barrier to stop it.Although there are still a bunch of times where it does nothing, like when Gohan used it on second form Freeza.
>>487237778I forget, what was the timing on sonic sway?
>>487214267Biology is way easier to manipulate than physics.
>>487238436There isn't any, just hit Triangle and Circle at the same time and the character will enter an 'auto dodge' stance for about two seconds. If the enemy tries to attack you at any point during those two seconds you'll sonic sway them. Of course, you can't attack during that time frame so if they grapple or ki blast you have to take it
>>487238902Ah, it's a counter, neat.
Chaozu gameplay.
>>487238223>When Vegeta used it against Gohan, Gohan was hurt from itBecause he was still stronger than everyone else thereI'll give you the Goku example though
Dodonpa tracking.
>>487239228>>487239379Why the fuck are they shilling Mr. Satan so much? I’m tired of seeing him.
>>487239949It's from that one bonus battle they showed off during the game mode showcase
>>487239949He's popular in Japan.
I noticed that in the recent online PvP showcase, Yamcha used up 2 blast stocks, and then tanked Burter's ultimate despite have absolutely no health left. What's up with that?
>>487240392That's how he survived Dr Gero in the anime
>>487240737Is... that actually a part of Yamcha's moveset?
>>487240342He's popular everywhere
>>487240876Well he did save the world. TWICE
Hercule is a bigger fraud than vegeta>tfw hit the N key instead of the B key
>>487205276Sat what you want but I like all of GT's character designs, aside from Trunks acting like future Trunks. He's my only problem. Videl looks great, Vegeta is hillariously amazing as a fully assimilated Saiyan earthling, Pan is so iconic I'm still shocked this design only existed in GT, and Goten looked great too. Trunks is the only one I have trouble with.
How much will people seethe when OUR HERO is finally confirmed?
>>487242627I would be pissed because I know his existence alone confirms Goku won't be in the game. Goku is an underrated gem.
>>487232032There is a chance he could be in the base roster in a situation like in XV1 where Goku (GT)'s base roster to showcase they do remember GT but everything else is DLC. Especially when the first teaser footage had SS4 Goku (GT) with x10 Kamehameha, they know that's a big part of people's nostalgia with the game.
>>487232032I feel like you'll have at least 1 GT character, and it will be Goku.
>>487242964Yeah, we know OG Goku is in as well, and just by the count doesn't look like many OG characters are returning. So they could assemble all Goku's as a sort of a teaser for their respective series. After all, with the fist season pass being Super Hero/Daima, it appears the earlierst any DLC for OG/GT/movies could come out is 2026.
>>487242627I'll accept Frieza Soldier as long as he has many, MANY different alts, like Appule and Raspberry.>>487243479Honestly speaking, how many missing DBZ and DBS characters do we need at the moment? Like bare minimum.
We always talk about how many non movie Z characters are returning, but are there any Z characters that could be new for SZ? I can only think of Pui-pui and Yakon
>>487243787>I'll accept Frieza Soldier as long as he has many, MANY different alts, like Appule and Raspberry.Appule has traditionally been his own character.>Honestly speaking, how many missing DBZ and DBS characters do we need at the moment? Like bare minimum.Going by obvious and confirmed but none on the greed yet:>Tween Gohan x 3>Buu arc Gohan SSJ2, Saiyaman and Ultimate>Kamiccolo>Chaozu>Armor Trunks (base)>Saibaman>Zarbon x 2>Guldo, Recoome, Ginyu>Freeza x 5 or 6 (if Mecha Freeza is there)>#16, #17 (Z), #19, #20>Cell x 3 (Perfect is already there)>Cell Jr.>Buu x 4 or 5 (fat is already there, unsure about evil)>Cabba x 2 (or 3)>Frost (possibly x2 or 3)So I'd say 35 at the minimum. For remaining 29 slots on the grid. But that's not including other very likely returning veterans like Dodoria, Nail, Cold, Kaioshin (and Kibitoshin) and Babidi. Lesser Freeza soldiers could make it in as well. Also GoD Toppo from Super. And with Roasie and Kakunsa in, it doesn't look like they're going for bare minimum for ToP, so you should expect more less important characters. Overall, I'd be very surprised if OG/GT/movies have more than 20 spots in the grid. Though there's a possibility some are included as secret characters. But it wouldn't be one of the most hype ones because obviously you'd like to advertise them; more like, you use Shenron and go "oh, (s)he's in? neat", like e.g. kid Chi-chi who was a wish character in Meteor.
>>487245090There is 0 chance they are cutting Dodoria
>>487244571>I can only think of Pui-pui and YakonYeah, they're the most major ommission. All the other henchmen are included. They'd be nice for Goku and Vegeta's storylines, so you do not just jump straight into their duel or their battles with Buu (not sure if you're getting Goku vs. Vegeta from both perspectives; would be neat though) for the Majin arc. There's also Kami. Though the only fighting he did in Z was in the Garlic movie from what I remember. But it always sucked he wasn't in.>>487245485Yeah, but some people argue about it, I wanted to go for the bare bare minimum in the greentext.
>>487245090>Appule has traditionally been his own characterYeah, but his moveset tends to be pretty generic. Luckily, thanks to the whole "costume and accessories having different moves" thing means they could add Appule as an alt for Frieza Soldier WHILE keeping his old BT3 moveset. And Raspberry could have a blaster accessory to give him a different ki blast animation. Not saying it will happen, but it's a good way to save up slots.>KamiccoloGonna be honest, the fact that Piccolo doesn't have an (Early) or (End) on his name makes me believe Kamiccolo will be an alt costume with his (End) moveset.
>>487245604>There's also KamiI count him more as a Dragon Ball character but yeah. Also if they really want to cut deep there is the dead Kais that fought Buu in the flasback
>>487245654>Yeah, but his moveset tends to be pretty generic. Luckily, thanks to the whole "costume and accessories having different moves" thing means they could add Appule as an alt for Frieza Soldier WHILE keeping his old BT3 moveset. And Raspberry could have a blaster accessory to give him a different ki blast animation. Not saying it will happen, but it's a good way to save up slots.Doesn't Appule require a whole ass different model though? And if you're gonna do as much work as you'd do for a full on character, while not include them as a character?>Gonna be honest, the fact that Piccolo doesn't have an (Early) or (End) on his name makes me believe Kamiccolo will be an alt costume with his (End) moveset.That would be kinda silly in that there's no visual distinction between them. People are really overdoing it with the alt costume thing. It's gonna be stuff like "Goku has a Nyoibo now, so he's using Nyoibo" or "Vegeta has no tail, so he can't go Oozaru". They're not going to sidestep creating characters with it. So far they've been very faithful to how the characters were made in Meteor. No other game splits Z Goku in 3 for one, they rarely split him at all. Vegeta is also split in the exact same way, even though you could easily just do costume changes that lock up transformations for him, and it'd be more obvious what's happening than for Piccolo.
>>487239379He fires this in the opposite direction and does a circle over his head. Crazy
>>487245654My theory is that they started development with Piccolo Early and End planned, but then they started working in the Superhero DLC and turned End into Piccolo Super, leaving a noticeable gap in the base roster.
>>487246681Come on, among 8 different story point ov view characters, what's the chance Piccolo isn't one? And what's the chance they'd leave a gap like that for a story character?
>>487246327I dunno about no-tail Vegeta, but Goku (Super) with the powerpole is confirmed to have a new super attack. Plus we've already seen Goku (Early) from the Raditz fight with a Kaiokenless/Spirit-Bombless moveset. As for Appule, the only major different is his weird head, his body is pretty much a similar build to the generic Frieza Soldier.>>487246681I do expect Piccolo (Super) to be a DLC character, but I feel like they might give somehow give him a different moveset from BT3's Piccolo (End). I dunno how, but I feel like they will.
>>487247041I don't know man, the fact he's just called Piccolo is really suspect. Maybe he gets Hellzone Grenade in the turban costume.
How will collecting the Super Dragon Balls work? They are to big to be found in battle
>>487247540>but Goku (Super) with the powerpole is confirmed to have a new super attack.That's my point, he's gonna be based on his powerpole. They're not taking a character with no visual distinction and calling it an alt costume.>Plus we've already seen Goku (Early) from the Raditz fight with a Kaiokenless/Spirit-Bombless moveset.For what it's worth, there is (or there should be) a difference between Raditz fight and Vegeta fight Goku's. One uses turtle Gi, the other uses Kaio gi.>>487247963>I don't know man, the fact he's just called Piccolo is really suspect. Maybe he gets Hellzone Grenade in the turban costume.That would be random as fuck.
>>487247963Now that you mention it, we haven't seen any gameplay of Piccolo in his turban and cape outfit, have we?
>>487248641The master/student trailer has him with cape
>>487242964I could’ve sworn GT Goku was dlc, but SS4 was base roster.
>>487239228Why is the sky green? Are we on Namek or Earth?
>>487251472Never played it, but you're right according to https://dragonball.fandom.com/wiki/Dragon_Ball_Xenoverse?so=search
>>487251472XV has a mess of a roster where many transformations are just separate characters altogether. SZ has them connected so I don't think they would do that.
>>487252002That SS4 Vegeta pre order traumatized me for life, I feel like I always pre order bamco games now just because you couldn't buy him later.
>>487253585>because you couldn't buy him later.That's just mean. It'd be one thing if it was some what-if character, say, Vegeta SSJ3. But locking an iconic one like this...>>487252476Would it be so hard to connect the characters later?
>>487254029I'm hoping they can connect characters later because I'm still holding out for base Broly.
I lowkey hate how my adventures with superman supergirl turned out to be exactly what I thought a female saiyan would be like, meanwhile we're stuck with Kale and Caulifla and Gine, it sucks
The pre-order bonus is Daima Vegeta
>>487255349So you'd get Daima Vegeta before Daima Goku and Shin? That's silly.
>>487255349How the fuck but he can't fight
>>487255473Yes, but he will also be forever unavailable for those who don't pre-order. They can't do that to Daima Goku.
I love Gokuu
>>487257316Is he a slightly bigger Goku?
>>487256623Still it'd be just weird for that to be the case. He'd be around for months before the DLCs finally drop. And the first two could very well turn out to be just Super Hero content.
>>487258336It's the sword guy from Bojack's gang
>>487228667It's nice, but the shading/coloring looks like it's dipping into orange brick territory.
>>487260062Well that's even more confusing.
>Never played through Fighterz's plot >Anon's talking about 21 made me go watch it to kill time>Now can't lewd her, want to protect.You bastards i used to look at this pic without feeling guilty now I feel like a pervert if I lewd her, thanks alot
WHEN IS THE NEW CHARACTER TRAILER!I REQUIRE ADDITIONAL CONTENT!
I hope they don't try to make fights exclusive to certain story modes. E.g. the entirety of the Nappa fight being done in Gohan's storymode, so it's lacking from Piccolo's. This is a major fight for both, so both should get it, even if there will be an overlap.
>>487263181I just hope the story mode is longer/more fleshed out than the BT3 story mode.I actually played through it from beginning to end recently, it's insanely short and skips over massive sections of the story in every arc. So I really just hope that we don't get a similar situation with the story mode for Sparking Zero.
>>487263181They have the 1st person POV camera thing so it would be nice to see the same sceneform different angles.
>>487263559>I just hope the story mode is longer/more fleshed out than the BT3 story mode.That's a given, you already have first Raditz vs. Goku fight (even though it wasn't much of a fight in either anime or manga) included as prologue to Goku/Piccolo vs. Raditz plus a what if, much more fleshed out then there. And it's impossible they skip the first half of Namek like Metero did since Vegeta is a POV character. We're getting at least his fights with Zarbon and Recoome. I hope Gohan gets his fight vs. Recoome too though I'm not as sure about that.>>487264047It'd be nice to get a single fight from perspective of both sides at times. This could happen with Goku and Vegeta for example. Or if Freeza gets a story mode like some people predict. Eight characters is actually a lot.
>>487263181I hope they don't lock us to certain characters in certain missions. God I do not want to play as Goku or Gohan for 90% of it even if it's lore accurate.
>>487264396Well, since the story mode is character organized, and there are supposed to be 8 characters, you're certainly going to get multiple fighters to play around with extensively (even if Gohan and Goku are going to pop around in other people's stories from time to time).
>confirmed (116/164)Goku [Boy]Goku [Early Z]Goku [Mid Z] (base, SS)Goku [Late Z] (base, SS, SS2, SS3)Goku [Super] (base, SS, SSG, SSB, UIS, UI)Vegeta [Z Scouter] (base, Great Ape)Vegeta [First half Z] (base, SS, Super)Vegeta [Late Z] (base, SS, SS2)Majin VegetaVegeta [Super] (base, SS, SSG, SSB)Gohan [Child]Gohan [Boy] (SS2)Gohan [Teen] (base, SS, SS2, Great Saiyaman)Ultimate GohanGohan [Future] (base, SS)PiccoloKurilinYamchaTenshinhanChaozuTrunks [Sword] (base, SS)Trunks [Fighter] (base, SS, Super)Trunks [Future] (base, SSR)Trunks [Boy] (base, SS)Goten (base, SS)Vegetto (base, SS, SSB)Gogeta [Super] (base, SS, SSB)Gotenks (base, SS, SS3)VidelMutenroshi (base, Max Power)ZarbonFreeza [Z] (Final form, Max power)Freeza [Super] (Final form, Golden)Cell (Perfect, Super)Majin BooMr. SatanYajirobeBardockRaditzNappaSaibamanButtaJheese#16#17 [Z]#17 [Super]#18#19GeroDabraBroly (rage, SS, Full power)SpopovichBeerusWhisGoku Black (base, SSR)ZamasuMerged Zamasu (base, Half corrupted)HitCaulifla (base, SS2)Kale (base, SS, Out of control)Kefla (base, SS, SS2)Jiren (base, Full power)ToppoDyspoBergamoRibrianneKakunsaRosieAnnilaza>likely but not confirmed (33 more)BlueGohan [Boy] (base, SS)Zarbon (Monster)DodoriaRecoomeGuldoGinyuFreeza (First form, Second form, Third form)Mecha FreezaCell (Imperfect, Semiperfect)Cell Jr.Evil BuuSuper Buu (base, Gotenks, Gohan)Pure BuuShinKibitoshinJacoCabba (base, SS)BotamoFrost (base, assault form, final form)MagettaBasilLavendaToppo (GoD mode)Ozaru
>>487260062no that's Gokua
>>487266116At this point, I expect all the non-movie Z charactrers from Meteor to make it except maybe for Ozaarus for people who never used them.
>>487266116>33 moreI counted 34 characters in your list. Someone from it will have to go, and I think it's gonna be either Mecha Frieza or Kibitoshin.No signs of base Oozaru either so far.
>>487269738>No signs of base Oozaru either so far.There's no sign of monter Zarbon either, but kid Goku can transform into it, and the transformation has been historically included. So it's a safe bet.
>>487263181>>487264396so you just completely ignored the part where they fight as piccolo vs raditz on goku's story mode? it's gonna be like budokai 3 probably
Tenkaichi 2 or 3 Guys. ?
>>487271448T2 for story mode. T3 for everything else.
If Sparking Zero doesn't have a rendition of pic related with BRoly, Minusdock, Golden Freeza and Blue Gogeta I riot
>>487271612>T3 for everything elseNot for the censored Bardock and Zarbon ultimate moves. Literally made for PANSIES.
>>487273429Now that I remember, weren't most rush attacks way longer and more cinematic in Tenkaichi 2?
Where's my game with SoL moments with fusions and their (half?) families?
>>487260715Based. Good 21 is made for loving, protecting and holding hands.
>>487260715but what if she wanted it? what would you do then?
You know I was thinking, since we are getting new DBs, were are getting a new divine dragon, right? And if I try to remember some big monster in Daima, maybe, just maybe...
>>487274684that thing is deeply unpleasant to look at
>>487276561Meant to >>487274363
Be honest with me guys, will the Sparking Zero hair model be good, or will it be shit like in the movie?
>>487283246It depends, Beast's hair was pretty static in Superhero, but Sparking Zero is all about that flowing hair. We gotta see them Beast hair physics.
>>487260715>>487274363Protect the good 21lewd the evil 21 and slowly train her against her evil behavior with love and sweets
>>487273840Yes. I don't know what happened or was that just rating companies getting mad the game is too violent and they shortened the blows.
>>487283724I don't know what to say, Corrupted Zamasu flowing hair looks like shit in SZ, but Heroes for example has a good looking Beast with static hair, I don't think that's gonna be the key here
>>487287435The only good 21 is the dead 21
Wait so if Super Divers will have a Heroes mode that lets you use ANY card from Heroes, doesn't that mean Divers will basically open will the hundreds of characters Heroes already have, day 1? That's pretty sick honestly
>>487266116>teams can have up to 5 characters>there will be at least 6 Gokus thanks to DaimaRuined
>>487297834Rude
Note's legs are the sexiest thing I've ever seen.
>>487309850You're not supposed to lewd note
>>487298780Sorta, like you can still play the old Heroes missions and even fight others online with the old cards in Heroes Mode, but you can't use the Heroes cards in the main Superdivers game. Though if you maxed out your Heroes avatar and transfer over that save, you CAN unlock default Heroes avatar skins for the Superdivers avatar.
>>487311964Anon, that girl has a CLEAVAGE WINDOW. Note's changed. You have to accept that.
>>487315843Made exclusively for Majin dick.
>>487313012>"sorta"Even if you can't mix Heroes mode with the rest of the game, you can still go to a DB Super Divers arcade machine and play with ANY of the hundreds of characters DB Heroes introduced over the years
>>487316557Yeah, that's what the Heroes mode is for. Honestly, the fact that they also kept the online portion of that game is pretty good for those who still want to play Heroes with friends at the arcade.
>>487283246I just hope they capitalize on the whole "good guy (blue) aura with bad guy (magenta) lightning" thing
>>487320803Dead and buried
Note a SHIT!
Note dresses like a whore now.
>>487248215My best guess is fighting in non Earth stages
So we are not expecting any more giants in the base game besides regular Ozaru right?
>>487324367We don't get hirudegarn or giga cooler? >inb4 UT PTSD
>>487324367Maybe Oozaru Bardock at the very least. They could probably add a 5th giant to complete an entirely giant team.
>>487324937I expect them to be dlc
>>487324367Giant Piccolo.
I now remember great ape fasha...I wish I didn't
>>487325317Super Hero is not base game
>>487325461I mean as an OG rep.
>>487325610He wasn't even in Meteor. A long shot at best.
we should have annin
>>487325610we might get this if they're far into the super hero dlc and can reuse stuff from his giant form
Why did they change the Kaioken Attack?https://youtu.be/TTMhUWMmDLU
>>487324367>already forgotten about Anilaza
>>487323228>>487324252Forte detected
>>487328474is it meant to be referencing a different kaioken attack? might just be they felt like changing it up a little for once
>>487276561It's a shitty game.
>>487331774I wish good 21 kept the eyelashes.
>>487332152Guess I posted a thumbnail.
>>487328474Raging Blast definitely did it the best>>487330651this is all I could findhttps://youtu.be/FaqAHCBl1cQ?si=TPxbbj0sVBAs2LNL
>>487320803>>487320956Again, are we absolutely certain the orange duo aren't just an older Beat and Note?
>>487328714>already forgotten about AnilazaAnilaza is already confirmed like Ape Vegeta, I meant the basic naked monkey who still isn't confirmed but has lways been in
>>487328474Who cares, it will still suck uless they change it to the one he used against Nappa
>>487328474>>487337110I never thought the Kaioken attack against Vegeta was all that good, I don't get why it's being pushed so much over the much better Nappa one.
>>487337110>>487337638Why the fuck can't we just have both?
>>487337734I think Raging Blast had both.
>>487336727There really is a clear divide in how the new Super characters are treated, and how the old ones which were "legacied in" are. Everyone was expecting to get giant Ribrianne and Bergamo as forms because that's how it would be back in the days. It'd be funny if we ended up with Nappa and Raditz actually having their own Ozaru forms because that's how it used to be.
>>487316506Note flashes her bare pussy to everyone, robots, majins, semen demons, she goes around with nothing on underneath and shares it with the worldThere is no exclusivity, only public use
Is there any non-Sparking DB game that splits Z Goku's into different characters (gachashit aside)? Not counting games that don't allow you to transform of course, then you obviously have separate SSJ or SSJ3. I mean a situation where you have mutliple versions of base adult Goku. I think it's something unique to the series. Contrary to Gohan and Vegeta who are split more often.
>>487339750I don't know if you want to count this as "Z" (Also he doesn't really transform) but Fusions had both Z Gi Goku and Whis Gi Goku as 2 separate characters (They even had SSJ3 Whis Gi Goku)
>>487339750Not exactly different character slots, but Xenoverse 2 does give DBZ Goku 18 variation slots, each with a different preset of moves.
>>487340434(me)
>>487328474I thought I was okay with the new one, but you're right.
Hot take: Xenoverse should get rid of random drop moves and instead replace it with fighting style.Like if you do the entire turtle school questline, you unlock the turtle style, has specific moves and thing that unlock as you use and master it or maybe it's a specific skill tree.And that they could even variant and 'prestige' versions as DLC or expansions, like you upgrade to Goku's Turtle School Style or you get to choose between Goku's, Krillin's or Yamcha's.
I hope my laptop doesn't fucking explode trying to run Sparking Zero.
>>487339750no cause no other games besides gachas would benefit from doing this
>>487242723>his existence alone confirms Goku won't be in the game.Well at least it confirms Goku's father.
>>487350292I'd been imagining a DBZ MMORPFG like that, where your character's starting race has certain abilities tied to it and then what school you choose to train under gives access to different fighting styles. Just makes me think how much of a wasted opportunity DB Online and Xenoverse were.
>>487248215Maybe something silly like fighting outside Earth has a chance of Whis claiming he found one.
>>487254029>Would it be so hard to connect the characters later?I think it'd only look weird in case they do something like giving Broly (DBS) his base form, so it'd change how he looks on character select, but I doubt there's be any difficulty, but it would look obnoxious for a transformation who's part of a character, be paid DLC.
>>487351591>where your character's starting race has certain abilities tied to it and then what school you choose to train under gives access to different fighting styles.DBO was a step in that direction but sadly it flopped so now we're stuck with the Xenoverse system, even DB fangames are seemingly obsessed with it despite being shit.It wouldn't even be hard to at least mix Xenoverse with Kakarot skill trees.
>>487248215Zeno award them to you, World Mission style.
So in Japanese, kid Buu is named "Buu (Pure)", and I think fat Buu is called Mr. Buu, but what is super Buu called?
>>487352289DBO flopped because it was only released in Korea and Japan, and oriental DBZ autists notoriously hate OCs; they just want to relive the Saiyan Saga and Namek Saga over and over.
>>487353045>DBO flopped because it was only released in Korea and JapanI know but the suits probably assume other stuff is to blame too.>and oriental DBZ autists notoriously hate OCs; they just want to relive the Saiyan Saga and Namek Saga over and over.I didn't know that, it's a shame because I love CaCs and I hate replaying the anime.
It's bugging me that they've deformed the models for some attacks and scenes but reused the same face animations other characters have for others. I wouldn't expect all 164 characters to be as high quality, but I do feel like some characters deserved to have more flexible animation and dynamic facial expressions. Burter for example, should definitely stay the same way he is, but Goku doesn't need to have that seem gritted teeth expression on nearly every attack he does.
>>487352995If Heroes is any indication, Fat Buu and Mr. Buu are two separate characters for some reason. Super Buu is named Evil Buu if I remember correctly. And to avoid confusion, skinny Evil Buu is Majin Buu (Pure Evil).
You now remember Sagas
>>487353449>Fat Buu and Mr. Buu are two separate characters for some reasonMr. Buu is after he splits from the evil part and becomes weaker
>>487354084I know, it's just weird that Heroes actually separated them despite looking the exact same. I wonder if Superdivers will do the same thing.
>>487353929I wonder if Sparking Zero will ever add Soba as a DLC character. Imagine the interaction if they also add Jimmiez from Universe 2.
>>487353045>and oriental DBZ autists notoriously hate OCsWait really? That explains why Beat and Note became irrelevant in Heroes... How popular is Xenoverse in Japan?>>487353449>Fat Buu and Mr. Buu are two separate characters for some reason.Probably because "Mr. Buu" is Fat Buu after Kid Buu was defeated... Do you know what's the other name Fat Buu has?>Super Buu is named Evil Buu if I remember correctly. And to avoid confusion, skinny Evil Buu is Majin Buu (Pure Evil).I had forgotten about skinny Buu, thanks.
>>487355297I believe Fat Buu is called "Majin Buu (Dai Kaioshin Absorbed)".
>>487353417Part of the problem is the tiny handful of games that tried to do something different ended up being complete rubbish. Sagas tried to be like a mascot platformer, but it sucked. Dragon Power tried to be like Zelda, but it sucked. The Breakers tried to be an asymmetric survival game but it sucks. The only ones that were ever acclaimed were the fighting games, so publishers decided it was because they were fighting games is why they were good. (Revenge of King Piccolo, Origins, and Advanced Adventure were all alright despite not being straight fightan, but they also aren't really remembered)
>>487355568Sagas isn't a platformer, it's a beat-em-up.
There's art of the new avatar girl in orange now paizuri related of course Not sharing and not telling if you want it, find it!
>>487355717It's a reskin of Tak and the Power of Juju. Made by the same devs in the same engine. It's similar to typical 6th gen action platformers like Jak & Daxter and Ratchet & Clank. When you're not fighting bosses you're running around stages looking for capsules and dragon balls and zeni. It's honestly a lot like Kakarot.
>>487357230Avalanche made Tak? I didn't know that.
>>487356162nah I'm good
>>487357560Yeah, it's their only in-house franchise that was successful.
>>487355568yet not once have they hit up omega force to churn out a dragon ball musou, despite everyone else and their dog tapping that
>>487357962Didn't they also make Disney Infinity?
>>487358204Ken's rage 1 was so good, Jagi's dream mode was the greatest part of the game.>despite everyone else and their dog tapping thatThey will never ever allow DB to compete with One Piece. Shueisha suits would kill themselves before allowing DB to have a musou while Pirate Warriors is still ongoing.
>>487350907I'm sure you can just turn all the graphics down to run it in ps2 mode.
>>487324367Why do people have on obsession with giant characters being in the game? There weren't that many kaiju fights in the main story and even adding movie shit there would barely be any more. At best there's Giant Slug, Base Janemba and Hirudegarn. Giant Cooler managed to get in in a few games but nothing more then that.
>>487354692That would be the deepest pull I can imagine.
>>487338229Here's an hour to spend.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zCrw02Uqkz8&pp=ygUfcmFnaW5nIGJsYXN0IGFsbCBzdXBlciBhdHRhY2tzIA%3D%3D
>>487358232>in houseMeaning, "not a licensed franchise". >>487358204I've been saying for a while I want a musou-type game where you play as a pre-destruction Saiyan going around conquering planets on Frieza's orders. It seems like such an obvious idea for a DBZ game that isn't just a fighter, but they've never done anything like it.
>>487358676>There weren't that many kaiju fights in the main storythat's whywe want the game to give us scenarios the anime did notits the same reason gritty gorey shows inspire happy homemaker cafeshop AU's and light n fluffy kids shows inspire grimdark au'salso you forgot golden grape baby
>>487359305To be fair, it's Tak owned by Nick?
>>487358676Because any Saiyan with a tail should logically be able to go Great Ape. Blame Toriyama for establishing that Saiyans can just create a fake moon at any time and effectively go Ape at will. Even if you don't want to do hypotheticals, Goku's fights with Giant Piccolo, Great Ape Vegeta, and Baby are all iconic for their parts of the story.
>>487358676>There weren't that many kaiju fights in the main storyThat's the point? Getting more of something rare?That and having such powerful human-sized characters fight giant kaijus sound, and usually looks, fun.
>>487359438They had been developing the idea for years, then Nick got involved to provide extra money and help them refine it in exchange for a cartoon deal.
Why the fuck does pixiv have so much fart joke images?
>>487350292So, like how UT did with it's mentor system where besides the moves you can change your fighting style to that mentors style?
>>487359942Ah, that explains it.
>>487360046? How does this relate to Dragon ball?
>>487360048Kinda like that but less janky and less 'you become a copy paste of that character'. Like your CaC still fight in a specific way that the fighting style influence but you don't become a moveset clone of Goku. You just fight like a disciple of whatever style you use if that make sense.Just like Goku, Yamcha and Krillin are all part of the same school and have moves in common but they still fight in a recognizable way.
>>487350292I get where you're coming from but I dislike the idea of not being able to color coordinate my ki attacks and strike attack motions blurs, or a character not being able to have both death ball and shocking death ball at the same time
>>487360046>joke
>>487360325>trying to find good gogeta / ssj4 gogeta art>tons of dragon ball characters using farts as an attack....
>>487360702You're better off using boorus as a starting point to find artists than digging through pixiv.
>>487360858I hit those already, I use pixiv for more rarer stuff (mostly genshin and nikke), didn't know I'D FUCKING FLY INTO THAT
>>487360640>I get where you're coming from but I dislike the idea of not being able to color coordinate my ki attacks and strike attack motions blursYour attacks would be color coordinated by default tho, that's the advantage with an actual closed fighting style instead of random mish mash of random moves, it can actually be in-depth and have an internal logic.
>>487360046>jokeIt's a fetish, anon
>>487361026Twitter is the real goldmine nowadays
>>487361062Ideally for me, it'd be a mix between UT, Kakarot, DBO, Roblox One Piece games and Def Jam.
>>487358676>Giant Cooler managed to get in in a few games but nothing more then that.Wait, what was Giant Cooler again? Was it from the final battle of his second movie?Also Bio Broly could be made into a giant but almost nobody likes that guy.
>>487362069Bio Broly would be a nightmare to animate since he's made of goop
>>487361205>>487360679Well then...thank god for blacklists>>487361475I refuse to use twitter
>>487362276They don't have to animate his entire body, just give Bio-Broly some jiggle physics and a shiny body.
>>487362069>Wait, what was Giant Cooler again? Was it from the final battle of his second movie?Yes, Metal Cooler Core. The only game I remember him being in is as a boss in Ultimate Tenkaichi
>>487362584He's also in Heroes
>>487362276Even in his own movie he's "solid good" for the most part, so games wouldn't have to bother with that.
>>487361475fuck off muskrat shill
>>487363458You can use it without an account dumbass
>>487363779Not anymore, elon is doing a lot to cuck it
>>487362584>>487362714He was also a boss in Battle of Z.
are we ever gonna get false super saiyan goku in a game
>>487364826Maybe when they add Lord Slug. They'll probably make it a Blast 1 for a Goku costume though.
>>487364826I like to call it Pseudo Saiyan, cuz it sounds like 'super'
>>487364826closest you'll probably get is giving base goku the super saiyan aura in customization
>>487364826Goku (Early) DLC costume, with a moveset like this:>Wild Sense>False Super Saiyan>Kamehameha>Meteor Combination>x100 Kaioken Attack
>>487365479That's what I used to do in BT3 and RB.
i hope they're saving 3v1's and 2v2's for a trailer closer to launch, like they're doing with Movie and GT characters. if the only options in Sparking's multiplayer and Create-a-Scenario Mode are 1v1's i'm gonna be pretty disappointed. i'd rather continue waiting for the next Xenoverse 2 Revamp update.
>>487366354didn't they already confirm the same 1-5 v 1-5 system from prev games way early
>>487366354They don't need a trailer for that, just because you have a team of 5 doesn't mean you have to fill up all 5 slots.
>>487366354Yo speaking of, they had released a trailer with dual attacks and tag team supers. How does that work, did they explain? Usually tenkaichi is 1v1 with the rest on the bench.
>>487364259And Ultimate Tenkaichi I believe.
This thread was kinda horny...
>>487366665Tenkaichi 3 had a bunch of ultimates where characters called in other characters.>Gohan/Goten>17/18>Spopovich/Yamu>Jeice/Burter and vice-versa>Mr. Satan/Majin Buu>King Cold/Mecha-Frieza>Great Saiyaman 1/2 and vice-versa>Kid Chi-Chi/Kid Goku>The Pilaf Gang>King Piccolo/Drum
>>487366665>How does that work, did they explain?Holy shit you fucks really haven't played any other games. Just put the character needed for the tagteam attack and do the attack.
>>487367506Wasn't that in Raging Blast?>>487367946Nigga I last played BT3 15 years ago calm down
It's kind of interesting how the videogames have colored the perception of kaioken that the way people think it works is it constantly drains health to work, when in reality it basically doesn't do a whole lot to you unless you go past what you can handle, wherein there's massive backlash
>>487368206I liked the Super filler episode after the fight with Hit when Goku had his ki all fucked up for a while from using Kaioken in the match.
>>487368175RB2 was the one that had actual team attacks.
>>487368401it's honestly probably the best showing of kaioken backlash even compared to the x4 kamehameha, given soon after that he was able to jump around a ton and pull off the spirit bomb. I kind of feel like he would've been similarly fucked up by great ape vegeta's mouth blast kaioken or not given the power disparity
>>487368206Thank you for reminding me that they fucking gutted Kaioken attack in XV2 for no reason.
>>487366621>>487366651yeah, KOF style ratio mode is the default, but what i'm saying is i would hope there's an option to fight 2v2 at the same time instead of there only ever being two fighters on screen outside Super Attack cutscenes. i want myself and 3 friends to all be able to fight at once without taking turns.>>487366665same way it works in FighterZ. when you just have Android 18, Android 17 shows up to help in her Ultimate. if you have Android 18 and Krillin though, Krillin shows up to help her Ultimate. it's just linked to having the correct character on your team to proc a conditional variant cutscene.
>>487369440Ah, like Tenkaichi Tag-Team. I dunno about the base game, but I could see them adding it as a DLC mode.
>>487369440i don't know why i didn't just use wrestling terminology to describe what i mean. the default format is tag team matches, but i'm holding out hole for a tornado tag ruleset that let's 4 different players fight at the same time.
>>487369440xbox 1S hardware couldn't handle it, prease understand
>>487369671HOPE, HOLDING OUT HOPE>>487369619wait, wasn't that a PSP game? how did the PSP render all that? lol>>487369724my greatest fear.
>>487369881The stages were VERY empty
>>487369440Cute Kale
I thought the trailer would be either today or tomorrow. They really seem to be taking their time to reveal a bunch of obvious character.
>Sand Land hit almost 600 reviews on steamDamn, pretty good for a game made on a budget of like 12 bucks and a coke. Would be cool if it could break 1K.Apparently it sold better on consoles.
>>487373787Multiplats usually do better on consoles due to PC still technically being a niche platform, despite what steamchart posters tell you.
>>487369881PSP is pretty powerful, the Vita even more so. The Vita can be modded to run some early Switch games
>>487371291i wish her Berserk form was in XV2. the last Xenoverse 2 DLC is some of the laziest, most low effort, least creative shit i've ever seen.
>>487373787>Apparently it sold betterProof? Sand Land never charted on any chart.
>instantly lost 3/4 of my level 4 charge to baby's survivor assists true comboing me with beamswe were fucked anyway but goddamn
I hope Chaozu has this move in SZ.
Bros Fromsoft solved the 3D character action genre with Armored Core 6. How will Sparking Zero top it?
>>487383102To be fair, 3D character action games are not the same as arena fighters, even if there are some similar traits.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MjwroKgQ3voDo japs have their own modded Tenkaichi 3? This looks really different from the spic mod that is always posted
>>487382742Wait, no game ever included this move?
>>487383895Because it is really generic. But more importantly, Chiaotzu wasn’t a playable character in any major Dragon Ball games released in the last decade.>>487383312It does literally everything better than any 3D Dragon Ball
>>487382742my dawg Primary Lotus'd himself? who taught this lil nigga so many suicide attacks as a prank? lmao
>>487383102Easily, Armored Core is shit.
>>487383447woah, maybe they do. the camera seems a little further away than it normally is, and i swear they're moving faster than any movement i've seen in the Latino mod. some of the custom animations look a little smoother too.
>>487384212>who taught this lil nigga so many suicide attacks as a prank?Who else would it be?
>>487384212>>487384884I think it's worth noting that Chaozu only tried that kamikaze attack against Nappa only after having seen the Saibaman do it earlier. Only difference being Chaozu's was more powerful.It doesn't seem like something the Crane School taught him.
>>487385418wow. in all these years, i never considered that Chaozu blew himself up because he got the idea from Saibamen. that's actually really good, damn.
>>487384394Dumbass, the build system alone blows XV2 out of the water
Does it bug anyone else that the 4 healthbar characters actually just have 3 and a 1/2 bars?
I wish I a cute majin buufu
>>487388883I meant had, but being a majin would be fun too...
>>487387396Xv2 sucks though
>>487385418I always assumed it worked on the same principal as the kikoho, but chaotzu's body couldn't endure and got blown to bits rather than leave a corpse
>>487383895I'm pretty sure its just a part of his combo strings in BT 2/3, one of his up+heavy moves
>>487392547Should be his take on Flying Kicks for BT3
>>487392547>>487394006Close but not quite, his flying kicks is a spinning kick, not a spinning headbutt:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p17W0rXVz9k
After looking at some more BT3 Chiaotzu gameplay, I have noticed that one of his combos has an upside-down lariat, which is probably the closest reference to the spinning headbutt.https://youtu.be/LhBnuLqVQkU?t=96
>>487395138ah yeah that's probably the one I was thinking of
idk whats going on but it looks a lot more fun than heroeshttps://youtu.be/I17E7iKhiQc?si=bm0gJhsWSL26vwEC>>487365686oh my gyatt too peakthey just need to incorporate the punch catch somehow & it would be perfect>>487365479Tried this in xenoverse & learned that they gatekeep outfits & shit heavy for no reason. Just another reason to hate the game honestly, like why do I have to wait for almost 2 years just for a chance of getting a shitty broly ikari hair cosmetic
>>487396115yeah it's fucked. the only silver lining is that there's no penalty for save editing as long as you don't try to give yourself stuff CaC's aren't mean to have like buu's cookie beam or saibamen's acid, or stat distribution that exceeds the total number of stat points you have at that level
>>487336653>different eyes, different hair style and different hair colorYes
>>487396417all of those could just be art style changes
>>487395138>>487395667Raging Blast has it too.https://youtu.be/Jgq3eEn6JI4?t=95
>>487396417>different hairstylepseudo-goku and ponytail with bangs
>>487397069Stop coping and let Note go
>>487397069>different eyes, different hair style and different hair color
>>487397069>>487397339And yes because Super Divers did an art style overhaul like DBS BR. Look at how different Divers character look! Nothing like Heroes!
>>487397551bro I think you're the one coping here plus i dont even care if its note or not I just wanted to see if you had any actual proof for ur claims
>>487396115Damn, it's wild seeing a Data Carddass DB game with modern graphics. And the gameplay looks faster and more interactive too.
>>487397112Huh, he has a diving headbutt as a charged attack, interesting.
>>487397879>same hair, hair style and in base form, same hair color>"no u"Anon, it's Notever
>>487398097exactly what I was thinking, its kinda uncanny that a "gatcha esque" game quality enough looking to be an actual release>>487398432erm acktuwally...
>>487399148I do wonder how a port of Superdivers will work. The game has 4 screens with lots of multi-camera views.
>>487399281probably some kind of splitscreen
>>487396115>more fun than heroesOn my end as one that understands Heroes, my first impressions are that it looks fine even if unremarkable, extremely dependent on how cards look mechanically. The UI for CIs just feels draining to try and focus on when going game for game, the CAA they showed looks nice but is way too long and I hope the other action abilities are much quicker as future proofing for Super Divers. Mechanically the biggest changes are to HE (something about orbs on the bottom and ally attackers, maybe PWR in the segment for HE in the area?), STA is removed to make PWR become PWR LV I think, and units costs are dead (the effects just being an extra proc if the card is attacking with the members). And maybe it's nostalgia but I prefer the super attacks from Heroes over what's been shown from Super Divers (Divers has the better models).>SDBH Brolyhttps://youtu.be/DgjYCgIPy4Q?t=76 (BM7 mind you)>Super Divers Brolyhttps://youtu.be/nTuYiFfWOkY?t=3037>SDBH Krillinhttps://youtu.be/nHg47OMvWho?t=31>Super Divers Krillinhttps://youtu.be/nTuYiFfWOkY?t=3276
>>487399612Yeah, that makes sense. That reminds me thouhgh, what are the chances of a final SDBH port with everything from first Heroes mission all the way to MM6?
>>487399710They're a bit faster, but not too bad. I'm sure characters will get more cinematic supers as more sets roll in.
>>487396115What would Goku's domain expansion be like?
>>487396115I know right!? The game is almost 10 years old yet the hairstyles haven't been updated at all, it took til freaking Breakers to finally give them hair physics and super saiyan transformations befitting each haristyle and even then there aren't nearly enough super saiyan transformation styles for each haircut it's like about 5 or 6 of them for several hairstyles, the one for the yamcha hairstyle is especially disappointing, someone posted it awhile back and it looked stupid compared to the style a drawfag made of a hypothetical Yamcha super saiyan hairstyle That's what I do not get about these fucking people, Draognball customization would be an amazing time sink with enough options and people would gladly pay money to fuck around in something like that yet they refuse to do it, why?
>>487401891probably something that auto-balances the powerlevels of everyone inside so that the outcome is decided by pure skill
>>487402264Personally, I imagined something like 'Tenkaichi Budokai', where the domain force everyone to fight by Tenkaichi Budokai rules and the loser has to accept the winner's decision.It give Goku the advantage, a rule set he is very good with and used too while also making him able to subdue and neutralize people without killing them so he can rematch them while forcing them to not hurt people in the meantime.Maybe add a Reincarnation perk for the curses so Goku can Kid Buu them and force them to reincarnate instead of just annihilating them if he wins.
>>487374341>The Vita can be modded to run some early Switch gamesno it can't wut
>>487402548see goku isn't the type to give himself the advantage though unless he needs it, he's more prone to give handicaps to his opponent for the sake of a good fight, and only take whatever shortcuts he needs to catch up when he's grossly overpowered. that's how I see it
>>487402710Domain Expansions give you the advantage by default tho, that's kinda the point of the move, to make the fight be on your turf.
New abridged show: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y8Qw9T1_PdA
>>487403395yeah but it's an advantage according to the internal logic of the user. in Goku's case it's an advantage to be able to fight someone both stronger and more skilled that you in a field in which you don't have to worry about being oneshot, and instead receive an opportunity to test and refine your skills against theres, and just as much an advantage if fighting someone with comparable skill but much weaker that would be a waste to oneshot
>>487404115>yeah but it's an advantage according to the internal logic of the user.Not really, they all give you auto-hit by default.
>>487367506It always bugs me when they do it. It's one thing when the other character isn't in the game (like Drum, Yamu or Yakon/Pui-Pui). Team attacks that go off when you have a character X in your team is the superior option.
>>487404115Goku isn't so nice that he doesn't take full advantage of his techniques being capable of stonewalling his opponent tho. Goku basically use 0 moves that would put him at a disadvantage or help his opponent in any way.
>>487404908goku doesn't use his best transformations if he doesn't need to use them to win, he starts off small and works his way up to his full power as his opponents match his current level, unless he already knows for a fact he needs to jump in with both barrels from the get-go. it's not a matter of being nice its a matter of him being a thrillseeker that hates a boring fight
>>487405309Yeah, he doesn't use them if he doesn't need it but he doesn't specifically create new super saiyan forms that have downsides just to make fights more fun.
hello, new thread?
>>487405418I think you're looking at it from the wrong angle if he was fighting a guy 100x stronger than him at his best, then such a domain would let Goku fight him on the same level to at least test who is the better martial artist, and maybe even grow from the experience if said guy's skill also surpasses his
>>487405712Goku's domain expansion make you unable to make a new thread before this one is archived.
I mean the obvious answer is you just make spirit bomb a domain expansion but that's boring and we'd have nothing to talk about
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