Translated trailer for MGQP Part 3: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LSK1EcbLdTc>NewsCastle of Temptation has finally been releasedNEW Youmaen has finally been fully translated : https://mega.nz/file/5Z1QnDZQ#4fFLCwIIP5xWrs0e8xVptgGHnmYOx8qNY37-PiWtHmcMGQP has been delayed to 2024. Further information here: https://ci-en.dlsite.com/creator/4710/article/727502SHRIFT II chapter 2 has been mostly translated but the link isn't updated yet https://mega.nz/file/6UNn2KCL#5M2quBjZq39HZhuCno7LbbA2UtftLHj2GxE3PHvmyfsNew MGQ Wiki: https://mgq.miraheze.org/wiki/MonsterGirlQuest_WikiNew MGD Wiki: https://monstergirldreams.miraheze.org/wiki/Monster_Girl_Dreams_WikiThree Charms Lonesome Spirit collab translation has been updated; Link: https://arch.b4k.co/vg/thread/435693950/#q435711784Game guides and resources: https://pastebin.com/ATqygPX7You can get the latest translation of the Paradox Part 3 Demo translation files from ArzorX's Bitbucket:https://bitbucket.org/ArzorX/monster-girl-quest-paradox-translation-part-3/downloads/You can get the Part 3 Demo files directly from Fanza here:https://sample9.dmm.co.jp/digital/cg_game/d_310859/d_310859t.zipYou can read a guide on how to apply the patch at ArzorX's Blog here:https://arzorx.wordpress.com/2019/08/11/how-to-manual-patch-the-game-with-the-recent-translations/ToroToro Resistance's blog:https://ci-en.dlsite.com/creator/4710Previous Thread >>486226737
>>486981836big boobies
It's still Summer editionAlbum of my lewds: https://catbox.moe/c/w5gtyfFriends commissions: https://catbox.moe/c/vo902uBig post, still needs updating: https://pastebin.com/DCfArGfeThe latest, Sonya and Karen Oyakodon: https://files.catbox.moe/ylo8yh.jpghttps://files.catbox.moe/7xiwhy.jpgTamamo marriage: https://files.catbox.moe/njcbqc.jpghttps://files.catbox.moe/3pe368.jpg
>>486981836Tits too small. Not even normal human woman level.
>Armored Berserker plotline ends with you just fighting three more of them, finding out it's simply Heinrich's racism leaking through, repairing the seal and going on your merry way...That's it?
>>486983013For nowRemember, you still have Heinrich in your party if you've gone with Ilias-routeAnd on Alice-route, it's shown that Alicetroemeria has quite a lot of animosity towards Ilias regarding Heinrich's fate, so there's definitely more coming up
>another shiki attack>die human
>>486985613Wisdom made sense in white box, where the stats described your character as a whole because there were no skills and damn near everything that wasn't attack and damage were just ability checksWisdom in that case was supposed to reflect all the shit you learned through experience and pietyIt doesn't make sense in any edition past 3.0 which has skill points to represent all the shit you learned
>>486981836New Ilias Angel Ending is the best!https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i8wTs6mVqxc
>>486986807Why is there a piss-filter over her?
>>486986968...filter?
>>486986968Evil, corrupted souls must be purged.
Every single bit of suffering in your life, every failure and every pain, all condensed into the last 7 minutes of your life. and yet it feels like an eternity. a special kind of hell specific to each and every person.
>>486991335Oh please. It doesn't even take 3 minutes to taste all the world's pleasures!
>>486987669Is her piss truly holy water? Could she piss on Alice to give her an humilliating death?
>>486992325Her piss truly is holy water and she should piss on me for a blissful life. Ideally she would repeat thia baptism everyday to strenghten my faith
>>486992325>>486994156
>>486994156
What if Ilias made her own version of Jesus?
>>486996954>mpreg NTR scenarioAnon wtf.
>>487001068does spider have pusspuss?
>>486985649>always proper lady
>>487011015Meanwhile the two princesses of the land>Plap plap plap oh reto! you can cum more right? >Plap plap plap you like it when I move my hips like this,right?Even the queen wanted some of that little shota but she doesn't have a scene where she's not under the demon's influence, demon in wonderland might let Alice plap him along with her newly corrected sister too so who in that world is trying to not let succubi go after shotas? Even the so called Goddess is into shotas
>>487015351>but she doesn't have a scene where she's not under the demon's influenceYou should finish the rest of the postgame content.
>>487016352I gotta find a link to the game again and while doing that I also gotta find that guide so I can get the 40 coins to recruit alice and finally I gotta remember how to play the game so Reto keeps his virginity the entire run so I can give it to whoever fits it narratively
>>487016973>so I can give it to whoever fits it narrativelyLewis. If you pretend that the OVA matters, Succubus and Lesser Imp are close enough too
>>487003697Nope, you fuck by having a sounding session with her fang.
>>487023689>soundingyeah uh sorry babe I don't think this is gonna work out
>>487001068Come on ,bitch show mepick me up throw meleft me up hold me just like you told me you was gonna do
We need a monstergirl farm simulator game.Like that arc of farm chapters in the monster musume manga.
>>487027867We have at least two school games that are pretty okay (Monstergirl Campus, Youmaen), so it's weird that I can't think of a Harvest Moon clone monster game
>>487027867What would you want from it.
>>487027867eraMakaiRanch might be close to what you're looking for, but it's text-based, not terribly focused on monstergirls beyond the usual cosplay-tier fantasy races, and extremely barebones.
>>487034703https://pastebin.com/zuHTZ5yN
>>487034952https://exhentai.org/g/1591460/c9ad3e2c2a/
>>486930823decided to try this game out and it's pretty neat.the grammar is kinda all over the place but stillreadable
>>487040767Just like with BS, I'm waiting until it fully completed before I play it
>>486991970Somebody tell that murderwhore that a "shit-eating grin" does not require actually eating shit...
Thank you so much for the translation, Translator Anon! You're are the best! I love you!
>>486996954She really shouldn't. It would just make human boys feel like they could continue fucking monsters, and then conveniently and suddenly forsake monsters in their minds in their last moments of mortality and think everything's A-OK.
>>486996954Luka would fight him to the death.
>>487058291Ilias’ Jesus wouldn’t be a perfect 1:1 recreation of our Jesus, just like how the rest of the Angels that have parallels in the Bible aren’t like them, and likely wouldn’t bring forgiveness.
>>487003697Sort of? Underneath her is a small pocket where she stores sperm and later takes in to fertilize her eggs
>>486957158>>486957298
They ended up sending a resend request.https://www.pixiv.net/en/artworks/120723961
>>487062670>nd likely wouldn’t bring forgiveness.Then he wouldn't be Jesus, that's his entire thing. his thing that sets him apart would he would probably be like N from Pokemon and attract monsters into his teaching as well
this sounds powerful but very dangerous
>>487071834Considering the characters that use it it's mostly just powerful.
I hold out hope that Part 3 will give Bunny-chan her second line of dialogue.
What should Kazuya have to equip this armor?Swordmaster/Monster Swordsman?It has OK dexterity, and I can equip Gun Mastery after mastering God's Eye/Devil's Eye.But I lose Slayer Boost 100%.
>>487064427Looking good. Now we need one of all the hellhounds competing to see who's got the best assets.
>>487028370Yeah, plant crops, do the usual chill farm game stuff...Have sex with monmusus in the barn or go get raped in the wilds...You know, the usual farm game things.
>>486982740I love you more than that usual hussy, preganon!
B-Bigger tails don't mean better
>>487082965Smoking kills (my erection)
>>487077506Try to make Kazuya a Demonoid for funny resistance numbers.
collab spoilersit would be incredibly easy to answer "yes"... if it weren't for the succubus prison triosure, I enjoyed *playing* through even their chapters, in a bittersweet mannerbut from an in-universe perspective, that's horrible, and she should be rebuked for allowing it to happendoes she ever get called out for that specifically?
found the ruling crownthanks anon saying it was by gilgorn
>>487079096HORSEPUSSY
rant about grimdark, because exposure to SP through collab made me thinkI really hate SP.I hate horror to begin with.I especially hate grimdark things like SP, 40k, All Tomorrows...It feels deeply inhuman in some way.Anti-human, even.It's not a personal tragedy amidst a world with some hope left for others.It's not triumphant, it's not about the struggle for survival, or finding your own meaning.It's not about a costly victory, with survivors building anew in a brighter world.There's no hope there, only despair.I would call it "nihilist", but that's not even fair to nihilism.
>>487102981ps:I assume many humans in SP can live whole lives without getting succ'd, it's only a chance thing. But it has no future prospects other than "be one of many worlds farmed by succubi". There's no good end, it is an ourobouros of succ, secretly managed by succs. In a sense, it's almost like the Matrix or - I hate to say it - 1984. No post-modern future, the current moment is forever. And to top it off, the succs like their prey to be terrified, so it's not a peaceful death.
>>487098846Tbf Est would shrug it off because her whole idea of everything is how it correlates to pleasure and they do die with pleasure. And there's no point in lecturing her because you can't punish her
>>487106239goddamn blue and orange morality strikes again
>>487102981ps: ps:I wish I could force Shiki to see that he is wrong and cringe.That he would regret every piece of dryfishing art and supreme-untouchable-succubus wankery.Not because of some punishment, but because he sees how immoral and shameful it is....I'm starting to sympathize with Ilias making personalized hells.
>>487102981I think you can't even conceive of why something like SP is enjoyable. Imagine how it looks through the lens of a sadist, someone who wants to see the delicious suffering. It's the same as MGQ defeat scenes. Whether or not there's "hope" at the end doesn't really matter, just like it matters little whether Luka gets eaten after the end of a scene or made into a monster's husband. You just don't see that appeal so you don't have any reason to like it. Which is fine of course, but it has less to do with the content of the story and more with what the author and the audience like.
>>487111897yeah it just triggered a bit of a genuine moralfag moment
She looks comfy
>>487113352if you're looking for the cold embrace of death, then yes
>>487113860>coldlies and slander>deathshe sends you to heaven actually
what's the item that gives kazuya extra summon abilitiesthe one you get from talking to promestein (and dr. yui)is it an accessory, a weapon, or...?I'm pretty sure I just received it, but I can't find it in equipment
>>487115260It's an ability.
poor Gilgorn>>487115447oh thanks
>>487116337Just so you know Kazuya gets some gear from giving presents to Mukuro and Daji.
How do mass murdering genocidal wives react when they get a gift from a meek shota?
>>487117364Dryfish him
>>487117490But what if they fall in love?
>>487118085Dryfish him slowly
>>487116493The standard system of affection presents?Gonna take a while to reach those higher numbers...>>487117364"Wife" means she's already taken, right?Either nothing, platonic, dryfish, or vore.
>>487119158You can have Daji cook her own Inarizushi, but you need a flavor emperor or abuse global save data to get Mukuro's fast.
>>487079096Youtube recommended me this.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4Z3tBuXmK1A
>>487102981>>487103853>>487109409I really love succ prisonI love succubi in generalI especially love best girl NemeaIt feels deeply for succubus in some way.Pro-succubus, even.It's not a personal tragedy amidst a world with some hope left for others.It's a triumph, it's about the prosperity of succubi-kind, and them finding their own pleasure.It's not about a costly victory, but succubi building a brighter, stable world.There's only hope there, no despair.I wish I could force Shiki to draw more pictures of the succ trioThat he would sink even deeper into every piece of dryfishing art and supreme-untouchable-succubus wankery
>>487123927anon are you okaywhy are you idolizing a monster that wants to kill you
Afraid that a big bad monster will rape you?Hide your penis inside angel pussy!
>>487124135Yes!
>>487111897>through the lens of a sadistThe point of both games is to be seen through the eyes of the protagonist. SP is clearly meant to be seen through the eyes of an extremely masochists masochist. If you can't see it this way, good for you, but you're essentially saying that the games is bad, even if in a "so bad it's good way", since it fails to get you to immerse yourself in the way it was trying to do. Though something tells me that you're just a masochist desperately making excuses to defend a game you like, like usual.
I just stopped by and I'm impressed that this general is still going, and in large part still talking about the same games. Is everyone a boomer or are some new people being rotated in?
>>487125907New here, waiting for more MGD content.
>>487125907I'm just here waiting for more Hakika stuff, his game's scenes seem to hit my boner zone more than MGQP's also MGD, but I heard that's never ever now because people got mad that the author's waifu is shit and he had a mental breakdown over it. I suppose I'm waiting for Demon in Wonderland but that's not nearly important to me outside it's story, the scenes in that game bored me because it was all paizuri tsuff and Reto himself has no character
>>487125907boomer here
>>486976959is this a collab in another game
>>487125907also new
>>487127136SHRIFT's EX4 chapterIt is actually relevant to MGQ: Paradox's story, not just some fun 'what-if' scenario.If you want to play it, you'll have to go through the entire rest of the game to get to it, it's literally the last thing you can do in the game (so far)
imagine having two monstergirl wives, one is weak to pleasure and you both lewd bully her at the same time
>>487124568I mean yeah, if you look at the game through the eyes of an extreme masochist then grimdark is great too, because your self-insert gets degraded and suffers a lot. That isn't the only way to enjoy it though.>"so bad it's good way", since it fails to get you to immerse yourself in the way it was trying to do.Well, I wouldn't immerse myself that way because I'm an S, I just enjoy the succs' perspective more pretty much. That doesn't have anything to do with the game really. If anything it's a mark in the game's favor since it's a maso protag game that manages to appeal to non-masochists.
>>487127718Wow, Paradox content gated behind shriftshit, so fun.
>>487125907Regardless of how old or new the people here are, it's not like it matters. After having lurked here for 5 years on and off, it's kind of amazing how I can leave for six months and come back to the same exact ritualposts and games.Never change, /mggg/.
>>487127718Can I play ex-4 if I go the genocide-lite route?(by that I mean killing every monster that the game lets you kill on a 1st playthrogh)Also I'd like to thank the shrift dev (even if he pussied out later with updates) for putting in an actual good and moral option, instead of plot-armoring every monster to the point of invulnerability (yes that includes mgq, sealing is a slap on the wrist, they should all have died a painful death)
>>487131591NopeFuck you be nice
>>487128647Nta, but I think it's really weird but interesting that you'd be into mg games in general as a sadist. I figured everyone here was more into the masochistic femdom, gentle or otherwise. Do you just not self insert at all and enjoy sadism regardless of who's doing it in the games, or are you self inserting as the monster girls or something?Pic unrelated, but best girl from Lust Grimm
>>487040767>>487041168Yeah, it's one of those games. Maybe in 10 years.
>>487132661Not him, but I don't really self-insert and like dom stuff in general. It's also why I find a lot of blank-slate characters to be boring unless they go full-on player's avatar.
Anons, help.I've accidentally made six fox cubs and I can't feed them all.
>>487138674Don't worry. Most monsters let their kids fend for themselves at a really young age.
>>487016973The virginity loss memory can be erased by the Hatter to trigger the line to whoever you want. Also you won’t lose it if the scene is just paizuri or something that doesn’t involve the vagina.
>had left the pastebin of the trailer translated in a tab all this time>finally grew out of procrastination to read it>https://pastebin.com/8Hg9NcFn> Erubetie I...I willingly took in the cells of Lady Kanade... I will proceed with the Dark Goddess' plan...with my own hands... Text box 13 046 Luka The plan of the Dark Goddess... Which is to kill all the living beings of this world and send their souls to the world of the Dark Goddess... Text box 14 047 Alice Erubetie...! So you intend to wipe out all life in this world! Text box 15 048 Erubetie I won't kill them... They will all become one with me... They will feel at ease, it will be just like returning to their mother's womb once we all become one... Text box 16 049 Erubetie And at the end, I will self-destruct... Then we can all go to the world of the Dark Goddess...Holy crap what the fuck.
I'd just resist the charm with anger.
I believe that 62studio is run by me from a parallel universe, having been incarnated to make a series of eroge that cater to me so perfectly, because it's crazy to imagine everything I like wrapped up into one. Save for the combat, at least. I need to visit their booth at Comiket again to thank them.
>>487146819
>>487146819They can just turn your hate into a hate boner. You don't stand a chance.
>>487149772Same. It could use a bit more actual fucking but the breast-focused adventure with out of the few murderwhores in it a portion of them get reverse-corrupted in wanting to build healthy rapist relationships is really calmingly good.Bonus for families and coworkers sharing and caring instead of backstabbing and cucking each other.
>>487138674Just let the mother eat the weakest ones.
>>487151930Monsters would never do anything so grim dark. They are creatures of pure love.
>>487152053They would kick their kids out when they're like five, though.
If I had to share with five other monster siblings, I'd eventually skip home and commit to a life of crime too.
>>487152053It's fine if they're bratty little shits though.
>>487153331That's what happens when they aren't properly schooled. Actual siblings would gladly play together with their husband/adoptive brother.
>>487154213>>487153331I feel the bigger issue is the mother not wanting to share.
>>487154407Neris hands typed this post.
I am currently getting jumped by the 53 Monster kids. Send dudes.
>>487155257hmmm?Nyo.I'll alert COOL Kyoushinja to send an extra batch of busty monsters with age drain powers on your way.
It may sound odd but I always imagined Tamamo fighting a lot like this.https://files.catbox.moe/8ku20z.mp4
>>487154213>>487154407There simply isn't enough penis for everyone, no matter how much we wish otherwise.
Foolish monster, I have trained my body, mind, and spirit to the utmost. You could drain me for days, and I would barely- why are you smiling?
All the thoughts in my head are dominated by Gargoyle!
>>487161025Still wanting to figure out who broke her horn, presumably during the Great Monster Wars
>>487161025>dominated by gargoyle>turned into stone by gargoyle>head full of gargoyle thoughts>slowly reshaped into another gargoyle over a hundred years
>>487161861I bet it was an incredibly powerful monster, It's the only possible answer!>>487161976>>dominated by gargoyleYes.>turned into stone by gargoyleYes.>head full of gargoyle thoughtsYes!>slowly reshaped into another gargoyle over a hundred yearsThere can be only one Gargoyle...
>>487162828I feel like it was the usual star of the show, though...
My headcanon is that Alma didn't want to be a Heavenly Knight. She was planning to give up once she had her fun, but she lost track of the whole fight, and when she did bow out, it turned out she was in the final five.
>>487168718Dude she left immediately because she didn't want to bother with a FFA. She was final five by default because they were the only 5 that dared show up.
>>487169424Really? I don't recall that ever being said.
>>487126973>but I heard that's never ever now because people got mad that the author's waifu is shit and he had a mental breakdown over it.Anyone have a QRD on this? Never heard anything like that about MGD.
>>487169535Alice recounted the fight, Alma Elma left while Tamamo and Erubetie knocked each other out leaving her and Granberia as the final two.
>>487169754No, I know that, I mean the part of no one else showing up.
>>487170000It's implied. Tamamo only was in because they were afraid of monsters ganging up on Alice. They also treat it like something not many show up for, Cassandra was pretty much the only one we know that fought 15th but Alma Elma's and maybe Erubetie's age should allow them to also participate there.
>>487170832I don't think that was implied.
>>487171865Pretty sure they said it's a 1v1 and no shows most of the time because everyone knows the Fateburns are going to win, but that part I'm not sure if I'm remembering right.
>>487171865I recently played through and I remember reading something about tamamo getting worried that it'll turn into a 3v1, that's why she joinedI also remember reading that 5 participants is unusally high, there usually aren't enough strong monsters around, and luka, being a retard, thinking that it is a good thing that there are so many strong monstersNo idea where I read these, probably somewhere in chapter 3
>>487064427Cute!
>>487172224>>487174112Well, I might have to take your word for it, though I'd have to admit I'm biased against the idea since it takes away from the prestige of the rank of Monster Lord and makes it into a mostly normal hereditary position, it doesn't make much sense with how monsters are, and it makes it odd the position is given such reverence among them.
Rape a man and you'll be fed for a day.Marry a man and you'll be fed for a lifetime.
>>487176074We're talking about the same family that had Black Alice. The Monster Lord who holds tea parties and if you try to invite most monsters to it they might flat out just say they want don't want to die that soon.
>>487181085-The great sage ancestor tomamo
>>487181960Thamamo the Graveyard of Nations? THAT Tamamo?
>>487182260She settled down
>>487181085Preach
completely relaxing in a monstergirl's embrace, entrusting my body to her, giving in to pleasure...
>>487184631This with Aiko...
timid monstergirls are cute
>>487188262NTAI legit plan to play this game just for her
>>487188262Hags not wanted.
>>487190097>>487190340the duality of man
>>487190097She's actually leaning towards lesbianism. Don't worry, plenty of other choices. Like Tabitha and Venefica.
>>487190476You know the saying anon. You are either into hags or you're normal.
>>487190970*not normal
>>487181869The thing is that she proved how much of a menace she was during her reign, and it would be another thing if we were told, "Yeah, Black slaughtered all of the other contestants, and now even strong monsters are wary of challenging them." Or "She was so bad; monsters, in general, are terrified of the Fateburns to this day."Like here's what I think. First, it's hard to believe there wouldn't be a large chunk of monsters interested in this, even if they didn't think they would win. Second, the title of ML is similar to that of Champion as the idea is they get respect and prestige due to being the strongest, but people don't often respect champions they view as not earning the title, even if they are clearly good fighters.On a meta-level, I think this was TrTr trying to make the Alices seem more impressive by suggesting that they are so strong that no one bothers to challenge them, but this has the opposite effect. The idea of each fighting several of the strongest monsters of their time and coming out on top makes them look far better.
>>487182732>>487182260>>487181960Why do you think she goes around collecting lovers these days?
>>487156673Yeah, I can see it.
Why do I still bookmark these
The OST theme of the final boss of Paradox was leaked: https://webm.rule34.xxx//images/5264/aeaed0dfba6468ec992c6e5cc46763c1.mp4?5999839
>>487200131>OST themetheme*
>>487198895Because every other monster girl place is the same or worse.
>>487200131It's gonna be ero1.ogg
>>487200131why
does anyone else prefer to defeat enemies with pleasure damage when grinding
>>487208928It is the polite thing to do
Pumpkin, break her knea caps.
>That *thing*... It scares me.
>>487216934I'm gonna flip the snake.
>>487216934I complimented Amira once. It was a bad move.I'm a really skinny guy. Amira bought me pants that are way too big. As soon as I tried them on, she jumped in with me, and refuses to leave. She says I now have one trouser snake for each leg.help
>>487219169Why are you trusting gifts from monsters anyway?For all you know, that pair of pants could have been their mimic girl friend in disguise. You could have been wearing your own rape.
>>487219534What makes you think I wouldn't want to have my pp sucked by a pants-mimic? That sounds awesome.
>>487221692Like with any monster "husband" you would only be enjoying yourself for the first seven shots.
>>487222182And it seems monsters have sex with their husbands over a dozen times a day.
What did she do to make them like this...
Would Eden really?
>>487226489>questioning your goddess
>>487216934>>487218268
>>487226489She made them out of herself.
>>487228901Wait, does that mean...
>>487229210What?
>>487229210You should stop right there. That sinner already built up a few hundred years. There's no reason to join them.
>>487229354Ilias is definitely sadistic, so I never thought she was masochistic too.What is wrong with her?>>487229593Ilias wouldn't do that anymore.Right?
>>487229705Gonna be honest, Ilias is a freak freak, might be the possibly eons of loneliness.
Why would a group fight be *less* injury-prone than a one-on-one?
I uh, don't think I have Alicetromeria recruited...
>>487230965Because it greatly increases the odds of gang-rape instead. Probably.Or TrTr just wanted an excuse to let you keep using your whole party.
>>487229705>What is wrong with her?White woman.
Is the Yamatai/Grand Noah competition festival thing, the same as, or connected to, the time loop?I was reloading to go through different character interactions, got a labyrinth book trap from Sphinx, and I remember hearing something like that is needed for the time loop to distract Vinum.
Is there anything "missable" in the Time Loop besides minor chitchat?>>487236187To answer my own question: Yes.>The Loop Event starts when you've signed up for the Otokomatsu Festival in the Grand Noah Colosseum after being informed by Amira.
>The original game, titled Monster Girl Quest, is what the series itself is named after. It's chapters, 3 in total, were released on the 10th of March in 2011, the 17th of December in the same year, and the 1st of June in 2013 respectively.It is 4884 days from the start date to the end date, but not including the end date.Or 13 years, 4 months, 13 days excluding the end date.Or 160 months, 13 days excluding the end date.
>>487240414oh and scenes of courseI remember people talking about scenes, and I've seen a couple (Horn/Leviathan boob squish, Cassandra milking)how hard is it to find everything, do I just talk to everyone at every time period?
>>487241220Some things only appear at certain times. The last hour of the time loop is where most all of the lewd scenes are
>>487182860I'm going to Alice
>>487248082No. You're going to Malice.
Besides seeing Promestein and unlocking her room on the left, is there anything on I need to do or collect, or flags I need to set, on the third floor?Particularly anything where I would need to collect a clue in order to do something on a further loop, and isn't hinted at elsewhere.Or can I just reload to see everything that happens up there?Going to Sphinx -> going to Cow Demon Queen -> going to the third floor is a bit of a hassle, and there's 10+ people just at 3PM.Not using the wiki page, because I don't want to spoilerize the entire thing.
>>487240414I think Chrome's room has a seed, and lol some of the minor chitchats actually raise Luka's stats according to the wiki.
>>487249957I will maximize not spoiling anything too much, but>a.) You need Sonya>b.) You can't complete the loop without taking deaths, so don't bother worrying>c.) You need to ask Sphinx and Selene about itemsYou can probably get back on track with only that much info
Considering that Tamamo has a totally-not-Tailed-Beast-Ball, should Alma Elma get a totally-not-Kamehameha?
>>487250986Yes.
>>487250986No. She already has SGS, why the fuck would she need another reference.https://youtu.be/f_42mQNtMvI?feature=shared&t=217
>>487193658Keep in mind that if anyone was old enough they would know that Monster Lord #3 was Saja's daughter, and #16 and Black Alice are considered to be the strongest in the family since the first ignoring that Saja was secretly the 2nd in lore. They are descended from an ancestor which might not be known inuniverse but even then the Fateburn family boasts about being descended from the Dark Goddess which would make anyone who wasn't a massive fightfag like Alma or Granberia scared since sometimes MGQ likes to remember monsters are still girls. Also demo spoilers Black Tanuki is considered one of the strongest queens by her description and considers herself to be Tamamo's rival but she began to cry and shit herself the moment Tamamo used her technique to show her real form as an ancestor
>>487251220Because:
Kitsunes will save the human race by birthing the next generation.
>>487255936Are you saying kitsunes give birth to humans now?
>>487256908They will, once they stop giving birth to kitsunes.
>>487231454Oh don't worry that just a timeline convergence
>>487252308What would each look like if they won?
>>487251837Ah, evil girls... Doing nice things to your penis...
Sex for pleasure is a sin!
>>487262738Imagine Luka losing all restraint and doing things like smoking or drinking or one day just planting a big fat kiss on Sonya making her swoon the whole day
>>487263395And the punishment is angel sex!
>>487263438Then that wouldn't be Luka, but Luka chad
Even now, I still wish I were one of the angel soldiers
>>487264398that's kinda gaythey lust after men
>>487264398I wish I were an angel soldier (futa) and the other angel soldiers would bulli my penis.
>>487265365based
>>487264582Maybe he'd take you.
>>487264398>>487265365I would impregnate both of you
>>487265510Huh?I'm trying to understand what this post is implying, but I can't understand it.I do need to go to sleep though.
>>487265921You get to have sex with fat angel tits thanks to your good friend angel anon.
>>487266081Like that?No thanks.I don't want to fuck anyone who ever was a man.Even if only the mind was transferred.
>>487263395No it's not.Ilias says sex with monsters is a sin, sex with other humans for pleasure is fine.She probably frowns on prostitutes and battle fuckers, but doesn't really mind them compared to monsters.If you're talking about the Bible:That's an incorrect extrapolation of a command (produce many offspring) given to the Israelites, not relevant to Christians.Sex outside of marriage is a sin, and divorce (outside of adultery, which is a sin) is a sin, but within the marriage bond, sex is not a sin, nor is contraception (besides abortion).(ignore the screeching catholics peddling nonsense)
Somebody left their doll by my house. When I ask it where it came from, it keeps spouting flames and jumping around bouncing its tits.Please take it away from here before it does somethi
>>487268352Congratulations anon, you just adopted a doll!Be sure to provide her lots of energy!
>>487268352I am never going to have another use for this image, but
>>487190340Fags not wanted.
>>487264398
>>487262603Alma wouldn't change. Cell would probably look more humanoid and androgynous, like what happens when he eats Lazuli.
>>487272731>Alma wouldn't change.Well, probably.
>>487251837>Monster Lord #3 was Saja's daughterWhere is this said?
>>487226489I love Ilias so much bros. She's so benevolent and perfect...
>>487277991Her scenes with Eden are proof she is best girl and angels are the best race. How can any monster lord compete?
>>487286136By actually having married sex for procreation, something angels will never have.
>>487256908They always could: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kitsune#Ancestral_lines
>>487288148>something angels will never have>Luka: exists>Narrative: destroyed>Anon: sinner
>>487288505His mother had to become human to do that.
>>487288668Once an angel, always an angel. You can change your form but underneath you're still a child of Ilias.
>>487291209Human form, cope and seethe.
>>487288668>become humanFallen angels are not humans, no matter how far you try to bend language to make it seem like they are. I don't expect anything from an unpunished sinner, but it's still disappointing.
>>487293295No, she straight-up became human. Or at least sealed her power and gave herself a human shell, hence a human infection being able to kill her.
>>487293574>human>could still somehow hijack the Evaluation Meeting system despite being fucking deadNo. Sealed powers don't make you human, any more than than transformations could make Shitlice a human. And don't use the TrTr blog post as a counterpoint, "dying as a human" doesn't mean the same thing as "becoming a human and dying"
>>487294137It's pretty close, considering she went from a spiritual entity to being able to be killed by a disease, which I don't believe would happen with any other fallen, even if their powers were sealed since it's established that angels don't have normal bodies.
Another win for monsterCHADS while angelshits cope and seethe.
The form she took is irrelevant, what matters is she passed her angel genes to the next generation. Luka has angel powers despite her mother taking the form of a human.Is Pollux a swan because Zeus took the form of one to procreate with his mother?
>>487294785Losing the divine protections of Heaven would make any angel susceptible. We even see traces of it in Paradox, where many more angels there learned what injury and hunger was like>>487295198According to the logic of sinners, this is true and correct and canon
Warning: prolonged exposure to monster may cause sudden rape.
>>487295198>>487295275It isn't described much, but it seems it's deeper than just a form. For example, we are told that no disease currently exists that can infect monsters, and I doubt Alice could catch one just because she's in her human disguise. I figure Angels are in a similar boat.Some other evidence for why I think she was only able to have kids by making herself human is that I don't think there are other half-angels running around, and creating new angels is a bit of a process. If angels could just have kids, I figure you'd see more, and they would just have children to bolster their numbers.
Human form, they will never change this fact.
We all know the best ending.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i8wTs6mVqxc
>>487295854Isn’t that the monsters plan? Get “raped” by him, then make him fall in love, have his children (minimum baseball team), then repeat process
>>487277991
>>487298012True, even when Alice took a human form she wasn't really human levels of weak, but Lucifina was.
>>487298348>Get “raped” by him, then make him fall in love, have his children (minimum baseball team), then repeat processExposed...
>>487298402Lucifina fits this description 100%Sadistic personality disorder is defined by a pervasive pattern of sadistic and cruel behavior that begins in early adulthood. It was defined by four of the following.Has used physical cruelty or violence for the purpose of establishing dominance in a relationship (not merely to achieve some noninterpersonal goal, such as striking someone in order to rob him/her).Humiliates or demeans people in the presence of others.Has treated or disciplined someone under his/her control unusually harshly.Is amused by, or takes pleasure in, the psychological or physical suffering of others (including animals).Has lied for the purpose of harming or inflicting pain on others (not merely to achieve some other goal).Gets other people to do what he/she wants by frightening them (through intimidation or even terror).Restricts the autonomy of people with whom he or she has a close relationship, e.g., will not let spouse leave the house unaccompanied or permit teenage daughter to attend social functions.Is fascinated by violence, weapons, injury, or torture.This behavior must not be better explained by sexual sadism disorder and it must be directed towards more than one person.
been a while since I popped in here, what's "NEW youmaen"?
I wonder which one fits Lucifina, I feel like we've seen her do everything here tbqh, she's sort of like a Super Sadist or something.
>>487299252>NEW youmaenHuh?
>>487299703I see myself in these.
>>487299703>>487299078>>487298402This is the girl Marcellus managed to make into a loving housewife.
Now for LukaSelf-defeating personality disorder(Masochist) is:A) A pervasive pattern of self-defeating behavior, beginning by early adulthood and present in a variety of contexts. The person may often avoid or undermine pleasurable experiences, be drawn to situations or relationships in which they will suffer, and prevent others from helping them, as indicated by at least five of the following:chooses people and situations that lead to disappointment, failure, or mistreatment even when better options are clearly availablerejects or makes ineffective the attempts of others to help themfollowing positive personal events (e.g., new achievement), responds with depression, guilt, or a behavior that produces pain (e.g., an accident)incites angry or rejecting responses from others and then feels hurt, defeated, or humiliated (e.g., makes fun of spouse in public, provoking an angry retort, then feels devastated)rejects opportunities for pleasure, or is reluctant to acknowledge enjoying themselves (despite having adequate social skills and the capacity for pleasure)fails to accomplish tasks crucial to their personal objectives despite having demonstrated ability to do so (e.g., helps fellow students write papers, but is unable to write their own)is uninterested in or rejects people who consistently treat them wellengages in excessive self-sacrifice that is unsolicited by the intended recipients of the sacrificeThe person may often avoid or undermine pleasurable experiences [...] [and] rejects opportunities for pleasure, or is reluctant to acknowledge enjoying themselvesB) The behaviors in A do not occur exclusively in response to, or in anticipation of, being physically, sexually, or psychologically abused.C) The behaviors in A do not occur only when the person is depressed.
>>487300332Wrong. We see her in her 'human' form still practicing her sadism over her own family and the villages. Marcellus was most likely like Luka.
>>487300159right there under "news"
>>487298012it was still an illias induced plagueI'm sure it wasn't a normal "disease" that she could walk off. Shutting off your immunity to angel aids would kill anyone.
Typically in the analysis of the malignant narcissist, "the patient attempts to triumph over the analyst by destroying the analysis and himself or herself" an extreme version of what Jacques Lacan described as "that resistance of the amour-propre... which is often expressed thus: 'I can't bear the thought of being freed by anyone other than myself'"Kek.
>>487298751Humanity has risen. Billions will be fluffy.
>>487300356>>487300730The issue I see with this is Luka is very willing to accept help, is pleased with his accomplishments, doesn't seem to feel much angst about hurting other people and earning a negative resonance, has the drive to accomplish his objectives, and is open to people who treat him well.Like I'm no expert, but I feel this is enough of a deviation that would make a psychologist not diagnose him as a masochist.
>>487304581>Luka is very willing to accept helpFrom sadistic monster girls which will make him live out his masochistic tendencies, he never accepts help from people that could actually make a difference in his situation.
>>487305817Well, they are the ones offering to help, and in a counter-example, he graciously accepts the holy sword from the pope though it turns out to be shit.
>>487311960why is she running
>>487300912maybe it means NEW as in new development, and indeed, Youmaen has finally been fully translated, and the translation is also now officially on DLsite.
>>487313931There could be shotas here, she was thinking.When you're a monster girl you can do anything. They just let you do it.
>>487314219ah that's good, maybe I'll check it out
Hard rape followed by gentle snuggles?
For me it's:>getting raped>resist as much as you can>she says something about how boring your life was before you met her>realize it's true and cling to herBest end.
>>487326121And then she vores you.
>>487327451Go away.
Shut up, Tamamo you're not my real mom.
>>487334667There's a high possibility that at least one of your ancestors fucked an animal spawned by Tamamo, which would make her your great grandmother.
>>487337463https://youtu.be/N1uTsqJVAeo
>>487337463Yet another reason why Tamamo is the best.
>part 3 within 5 monthsIt's coming boys.
>>487327782Vore and monster girls go together like crotch tattoos and snuff.
>>487343362No vore.No dryfishing.No snuff of any kind.
>>487341596>5 frieza monthsanother decade of waiting inbound
what happened to ipfs
Wow, quitting your schizophrenia meds sure makes life better.
I want to be a monstergirl's househusband/boytoy.
>>487347430It never ran and the guy who sorta hosted it got bored of monster girls.
What's a good game with a decent number of plappable monsters, angels and humans?
>>487341596"And this is to delay even further beyond!"
Mari-chan...>>487350506MGQ Paradoxof course, the girls will be doing the plapping
>>487352887One day I hope someone draws Luka and Sonya looking really tired and stressed from dealing with all their schizo party members in the pocket castle, seriously, I really love these little events that show what a fucking madhouse it is in there it's gonna be real fucking awkward when you recruit Queen Roach on Alice route and have her in your party on IIias route for example
>>487352887>of course, the girls will be doing the plappingWith gentleness and consent,right?
>>487353982>gentlenessSometimes.>consentYesn't.Requests are something Luka asks for, but in almost all of them, he *immediately* gets cold feet.Consent is practically impossible with Luka.
>>487354726He actually rapes the dog girl and still somehow fucks up so bad that she ends up raping him.
>>487354824It's like when in battles, the monster offer to have sex when low, and he cums instantly, often to their confusion.
>>487354726He doesn't seem to resist much when you do it with Sonya, in fact for the in game scenes he seems to beg her and in the new scenes xelvy added before his death he comes to her in a horny daze and they do some really lewd stuff together. the tease of her getting naked for just a handjob really makes me wish the guy was still alive so they could have sex or at least more lewd things like buttjobs, face sitting, thighjob, paizuri and nipple play.God why is is it that their scenes make me hornier than the others, IIias sex scene kind of did it for me,too probably because of how much she's enjoying herself in it
Spending the rest of my life in bliss... aaa....
>a good-for-nothing thiefyep, that's ->do we really have someone like thatyes, Luka, we do have one, you know EXACTLY who, she might as well have said her name
>>487356573That sounds about right, but I don't like the really messy sex drawn by Xelvy.Sonya's ass cut-in is amazing, it's not an artstyle issue or anything like that.
>>487364114Why even keep her around?
>>487365320Hey, she was handy this time.Given the gravity of this situation, that's good enough for me.
Cupid is such a slut
>>487362938mmmmphhhmmmmpphhhhhhhhhhhh
Timeloop -I put the Priestess' sleeping medicine in the cola.I'm supposed to wait in the bathroom, right?How do I do that?There's nothing to interact with.
>>487374437oh waitI just checked the wikiI'm supposed to meet Myusca and die first, THEN I get the option to waitI hate everything about Succubus Prison and all it stands forat least I get items from previous runs thanks to Amiracouldn't imagine going through a game where you have to repeat everythinggoddamn masochists
>>487375012Yeah I thought it was pretty bad we had to learn the hard way once
DAMN
ah man, that's a decision...uhon NG+, do I have to go through the whole time loop again?pls no
>>487377137I'm pretty sure Reaper let you go to the festival? I don't have my save anymore so can't check immediately.Either way, imagine not keeping rolling saves
>>487378560>imagine not keeping rolling savesOh, I do, but I can't bring Alice unless I NG+.
Oh, world map, how I've missed you...
>>487347973Sauce on that image?
>>487380947https://x.com/necosama830/status/1156931437574025216
>>487377137I'm not understanding the difficulty you're having with this decision.
>>487352887We could've had a LukaXHakunen date if some fucking faggot didn't start botting the poll.
>>487382296>we could've hate a date between 2 boys>but the person who opposed this is apparently a faggotBruh...Like I'm actually totally fine with gay shotas, but I ain't gonna call someone gay for NOT wanting that.
>>487382615There is no sex involved in the date and it would've been funny how a slut in denial(Luka) reacted to a slut that doesn't deny his own nature.
>>486981836>Want to play MGQ Paradox>"Go through the trilogy first. It's a fast way to learn the lore">First game alone is a 45-hour LP
>>487382296>>487383680stfu i'd take futas over that shit
>>487384660>i'd take gayshit over gayshitAnon...
>>487385110You just made Melk cry
>>487385262Melk has a tiny string, she's nothing like those twin sister apoptosi with their twin horsecocks.
let's not
>>487375012>couldn't imagine going through a game where you have to repeat everythingTechnically speaking unlike the Time Loop you can beat Succubus Prison not that you would your first time nor would this change your stance on it since this is just a gameplay thing that doesn't change anything that it stands for their succubi being actual demons.
Slimes are cute.
>>487386589And funny.
Paradox still not finished? It's been like 15 years.
>>487390547We'll be waiting even after Part 3 comes out because we don't get the full third route yet, or so I heardWe are doomed to wait for "DLC" forever
>>487392841We'll probably get the third route. We just won't get the LoC or any of the aftermath besides "Congratulations! You saved the world! NG+?"
Next monster or angel I see, I'm slapping their dumb ass.
>>487392841Guess I'll check again in 2040
>>487393259What if she doesn't have an ass?
>>487393640I will make one.
>>487393729Make what? An ass or an angel...?
>>487393259Anon no, she's going to rape you!
>>487393770Same thing.
>>487394303Interesting. Could you come with me for a moment? Don't worry about the sulfurous smell or the high temperature that can boil steel.
>>486981836Guess no MGQP for me then
>>487385618Tentaclecocks not HorsecocksBig difference
>>487394581>sulfurous smell and high temperature that can boil steelSounds like an angel's asshole.
I still haven't downloaded the translated demo yet, were the roach girls scenes translated because I'm still rather curious what the context is for the white sheet and speed lines, is she eating him or just plapping extremely hard til he either dies or passes out?
Does anyone remember an old mgq fanfic?Or at least I think it was mgq. It was centered around some literally who knight with a mouse girl companion.
>>487395042Pretty sure you can find it nyaa, then patch it yourself.
>>487382296>Implying Hakunen wasn't bottedGranted it was funny but the poll was long destroyed before he took first place, before the botting really took off Alma was first followed by Lucifina who I think had the most comments at the time.
Ex4 Why does luka experience timeline retcon when he started talking about m.o.w?
>>487403035Also Lucifer what are planning with the hint at LucifinaI mean really ?
Monster can't rape you if you rape her first.Pro tip: don't use your penis.
Finished collab and timeloop.Recruited everyone recorded in the library, except for ones unavailable this playthrough.>Morrigan, Seahorse Marine, Sea Slug Marine, Lucia, Succubus Mayor, Lilith & Lilim>I'm sure there's also plenty of monsters I just haven't run into, the monster book is 69% complete.Collected a bunch of race change and job change items, as well as Promestein race changes, pic related.(Do Promestein's race change offers remain across NG+, or do I have to do a bunch of quests again?)No sidequests from Amira or the bulletin board.Anything else to do in 2.41 before NG+?I suppose I could do some item synthesis chains.
>>487405594>spoilerThat's not the right path in this world....
>>487405954You're missing at least two possible race changes from Promestein thanks to recruiting Lily instead of Lucia, but the unlocks do carry over through NG+ and you'll have the opportunity to collect the others if you continue filling your recruitment list on a NG+.Nothing else is extremely important to do before then, though you may want to make sure you've picked up some of the major one-off chest items like the Reaper Cards from the Snow Continent before you go to Hades to start on Alice's route. Make sure to unequip Ilias too.
>>487381626My thanks
>>487408931>major one-off chest itemsIs there a list of these?>Reaper CardsI think I've gotten those.
>>487405594Monster can't rape you with her pussy if you hide your penis in one of her other holes.
>>487409193>Is there a list of these?Not really, no, and it'll probably be completely irrelevant when Part 3 comes out. As long as you've cleared out the chests in the Snow Continent you should be good (the Reaper Cards and a ninja sword in the Ilias Temple are the only major ones I remember), though you should also definitely fight Black Alice in the old Monster Lord's Castle since she also has some extremely good once-a-playthrough drops.
>You're wrong, this is a conditioned reflex...>You get a boner when you lose? What kind of conditioned reflex is that!? Don't get used to being raped!Daimyokai is great
>>487384480It's a good story though.Plenty of laughs, feels, and hype.And yes, you should talk to every villager too.
Does anyone know how to can i get the missing file
>>487412369https://files.catbox.moe/bc9dun.pngsave this as ウボサスラ.png
>>487412369Change your system locale to JP, re-extract the game's zip/rar/whatever (preferably to a different folder than the one you have), move over both your save folder and your commondata or whatever it was called file, that one is on the same folder as the executable.
>>487384480Just play it. Stop with the modern zoomer approach of "it's okay to skip games and play sequels without understanding the plot".
>>486981836Coming back to the game to play through the demo content, working through my NG+ Ilias save that’s on the latter half of Part 2 content. Are there more route exclusive girls in the new content? Do they let you skip to the new stuff on NG+ now, or would I need to go through another full cycle?
>>487413259Alice route has queen roach, Yao and the three nobles of black as exclusive recruits and Ilias has nothing, there's a ng+ option at the great decision if you take the third route bad end.
>>487413690You can only recruit them in Alice route that true but they aren't Alice exclusive
Man, I wish Paradox had a difficulty mode that properly rebalances the game to make it more interesting to play. On Paradox it's only really kinda interesting to play at the very beginning when your options are limited and you actually start using all those status effects and debuffs, but later on you just see how the whole game is held by duct and tape. Damage multipliers are so high that almost anything can oneshot you, but that's actually completely irrelevant from how broken barriers, revives and endure are, and health of the enemies is laughably low compared to just how high your damage is if you spent even a few seconds trying to understand the mechanics. It just turns everything into a boring gun fight where the one who pulls out their bullshit first instantly wins.
>>487413690>queen roach, Yao and three nobles>Ilias gets nothingNothing? The Alice route bias is real, it sucks that I prefer Ilias for the story despite her route getting shafted with so few/worse exclusive companions. Is it possible to recruits those girls at the point of the NG+ option of the decision, or does their recruitment happen at some in-between point from Part 2 content and the decision point?
>>487415102You get them before they decision
>>487415396Damn, looks like I’ll end up needing to do another two runs after all. Do you know if you need to do the collab stuff again before being able to do the Part 3 content, or does that now get pushed back till after it?
>>487415102Alice route is worse, they're giving her companions because she has to have something.
>>487409441Sus
I have an confession, I'm not a big fan of Paradox.
I have a confession, I'm a big fan of Paradox.
We are now enemies.
the Land of Night is goodif it weren't for chaos, it should have been allowed to spread over the whole worldis this a hot take?
I didn't use to like plant girls, but they've grown on me.
>it takes another 3 filler quests for Paradox!Alice to go from 'we're gona save the world!' to 'we need to KILL everyone Luka! trust me bro the three retards who tried to kill you before told me everyone's actually gonna be okay!'what the fuck is that character development
>>487415102The real bias is Alice getting her adult powerup after the decision while Ilias is stuck in her weak loli form and from what I saw her powerup will make her insane, the seraph twins and the third won't be able to compete with what she will put out.
>hold a boy close>he stops struggling, and starts cryingw-what do, sisters?
>>487418286It gives me peace knowing that ParadoxAlice is a dumb malformed alternate version of RealAlice, makes it easier when I will inevitably have to kill her on AW route
>>487419465They're obviously tears of joy.
>>487419465eat him.
>>487418048>become a braindead sex slave of a bunch of insane succubi with an extremely loose grip on reality>but they make sure to make it feel really good for both of you in the process, and you're never at risk of being dryfished/charcoaledI'd call you insane if it weren't for the fact that it's somehow better than either of the two other known alternatives.
Fuck you bitch I'm immortal.
>>487419467It's really grim to realize that my favourite part of the Alice route in the Part 3 Demo was Ilias adding Puruel and Inuel to the Angel register.
>>487421223It helps that Ilias is the MGQ Ilias, so she is able to experience character growth in Paradox.
>>487419286Alice is the most powerful monster lord after the first, of course she'd be broken
>chrcoal pisspot>better than anyoneShe can get infinite forced development and she will still be objectively worse than Alice and Sonya. Already killed her once and will kill that piece of shit again.
>>487418286It's her mask coming off, or she's just schizophrenic.
>>487422520Cope, Luka would have died at the end of MGQ if it weren’t for Ilias
>>487420748So?
>>487423281It only took her getting her ass beat to start acting right. That said, the same goes for many monsters.
>>487422312While it's reasonable for Alice to be broken at full power it's sad for Ilais to be stuck with her part 1 traits as we progress through part 3 with nothing to compensate.
>>487419793Begone, vore demon!
This is how I avoid strong monsters.
>>487425289>within 1500 ATK
>>487425961
>>487412369I fixed it but for some reason it happens again but with the Abaddon fight after the otkua cannon
>>487418286Yeah she's retarded and ugly. Ilias isn't that much better, but at least I get angels and Lucifina on her route.
>>487426984did you fix it by manually replacing the file or by re-extracting with the right locale
>>487418286That specific development of Alice really felt rushed, I agree. In retrospect the pacing of her character development, if you can even call it that, is weird in general in Paradox. Part 1 has practically zero development and in part 2 it barely starts after the declaration of war against all of humanity. She has no chemistry going on with the Lilith Sisters, so it's not like they've secretly influenced her or something like that. It really is the case that in one moment she's utter shock about her mother's behavior and then she just picks up the plan from there like nothing. There's no groundwork laid down for that kind of change of heart. In part 1 she should have been bullied by the then much stronger normal monsters and learned to hate the individualistic approach of them (all fighting with each other), maybe that way she might have been inclined to think that unifying all existences into one body could be a good idea.
>>487427421Getting someone else files and replaceing mine
>>487427964then yeah, the same thing is gonna happen with any other file that got fucked up when you extracted the game
>>487428305I replaced all my files
I can totally understand Ilias frustration with humanity in the og Timeline considering how retarded humans acted there. Unlike the dumbass hatred Alice and some monsters have towards humans. >>We have humans on the menu list and See you as inferior prey! But the bad guy is you!!1 >>
>>487427832Paradox is all just a long rewrite done by trtr as he realizes Luka should have ended up with Ilias all along instead of Shitlice. He’s just showing her true colors now
>>487427832Makes sense to me, when the third route is unclear and you're left with AW "plan" of letting people just die because you're useless or just transfer all their souls.
>>487428965Letting people vs died Omniocide
>>487429197Did you have a stroke?
>>487428732Same hereOriginally I had the ususal reaction to ilias's plan but after thinking about it, mgq's humanity doesn't deserve to live90% of the population are lust driven degenerates that can't think about anything else than pleasure, they are literal cattleThe other 10% are ineffectual retards who can't do shit against the monsters and can't change the mind of the other 90%Killing off humanity and replacing them with the next step of evolution is the best choice there
>>487428965Is if monsters wouldn't kill or eat you If they would consider you useless. Their entire 'system' is based on the biggest bully is right.
>>487429373Nah i just a sleep problem
>>487428965Between non-existence and having my soul enslaved to a vicious whore for eternity, I would choose the Ark Project even if I wasn't chosen.
>>487427832It honestly feels like the same issue many SMT games have with Law and Chaos Hero character development being contrived for the sake of them ending up as just a spokesperson for their route instead of it coming organically from their character. Alice must end up as a supported MW soulfarm solution and their 'muh freedom' spiel despite it not really fitting her actual character (even what little she has in Paradox) because otherwise TrTr would end up having to worry about writing her in for Chaos and maybe even AW routes, despite her already expressing qualms with MW approach in Part 2. Problem is, Alice and Ilias aren't really advertised as Law and Chaos heroes, so it feels really annoying when you end up getting railroaded into parallel world genocide just because you picked Alice at the start and don't want her and the Human Mage get taken away from you because you've already spent so much time on them.
>>487430010Yes we know you're a homosexual, might as well end your life and make the world a better place
>>487429475>Killing off humanity and replacing them with the next step of evolution is the best choice thereYeah replacing them with the vore chimera "humans" lmao. Heinrich was absolutely right.
>>487428732How many monsters hate humans, though? Alice seems to harbor a bit of hatred for a few killing her mother but she seems to drop it early, Erubetie is angry they are polluting her water but her rage is partially due to insanity, the Ant Queen is mad they enslaved her and her children, the Mermaid Queen is mad they killed her husband. I can't think of others.>>487429475Massive overstament.
>>487430196>a chance at heaven rewards for eternity>guaranteed hell for eternity where you're probably going to take it up the ass from bugsYeah I'm "gay" for not wanting bugs to turn my asshole inside out like some gay ass gay
>>487430196>get your prostate turned inside out by squid girls>what? you’d prefer missionary with angel girls and battle fuckers instead of getting fucked in the ass? thats gay!
>angeltards accepting paradox humans will be eradicated by chaos because of their retarded "plan" and think that's a good thingMask off moment. Heinrich's smug grows even bigger.
>>487431258I think anybody would rather just stop existing than get tortured for eternity.
>>487430923>>487431187>gets called a homosexual>immediately thinks about analNot beating the homo allegations.
>mask off momentI see al*cetard is copying me.
>>487430882Alice is literally looking for a reason to enslave humanity basically doing the same thing ilias later gets seen as the big baddy. Thats a little more then 'a little'.And yes there are lots of monsters that see humans as nothing but prey and inferior beings that deserve it.
Hildcoin is going to make it BIG when Part 3 comes out in 10 years. Trust the plan.
>shitliasfag thinks he invented english wordsLoving every laugh
>>487431808Paradox Alice is a generic alt world clone, Ilias is irreplaceable and the canon choice :D
>>487432101Shrift pretty much confirmed Alice route is canon. Cope.
>>487430882>Massive overstament.Is it?Just look at happiness village, the fucking degenerates were kidnapped and raped into obidence, to the point where they abandoned their families without saying goodbye, and the fucking traitors come to the defense of their kidnappers/rapists, they are the ultimate cattle. And all it took was getting raped by a relatively weak monster.Then the fuckers who voluntrairly give up their future in succubus village just to get raped endlessly, once again completely mindbroken subhumans who betrayed their entire species just to feel good.This is most of the human population in mgq, everyone is just one rape away from becoming traitorous cattle mindbroken by pleasure.And the priests/radicals can't do shit about it, they preach in empty churches, they bomb monsters only to fail to get a single kill.No, It is not an overstatement, it is a dark world, where the only solution is forcing humanity up the evolutionary ladder by any means necessary.
>>487431639I don't think that's a thing in the original.It should be noted that monsters treat each other similarly, so it's not much of an anti-human prejudice issue.
>>487432225Oh no not the evil harpies pampering their husbands with love and sex! The horror!
>>487432207>Sh(it)rift confirming anythingLike that Undertale clone is relevant
>>487432391This, but unironically. They go over this in the original, if everyone is having happy harpy sex then there aren’t any human babies being born, dummy
>>487432621Ummmm, but Doctor Sheckelstein already deboonked this!
>>487432207>SHRIFT showed us Alice>Monmusu TDX showed us Ilias>I don't know about Three Charms 'cause I didn't play the game past YamatittiesIf we learned anything, it's that Paradox is probably under the exact same timeline fuckery that SHRIFT is when it comes to interventions. Cheshire went out of her way to imply it as well when Luka used fucking Logos Magia during that collab.
>>487432225Other than the harpy quest line, which is honestly oddly written throughout, there's a lot of evidence against that. First, men outnumber monsters five to one; if they were like that, monsters would be getting swarmed all the time.In Succ Villiage, that's just a small group of weirdos who came there to get raped; the town's actual residence all bounced.Most humans at least somewhat follow Ilias' teachings, and many avoid interacting with monsters outright.
>>487431639Alice states this herself in hellgondo before she has fun time with Luka. She also threatens Luka's life several times. She goes literally through with her original intentions If Luka doesnt Look after her. Alice isnt the slightest Bit better than Ilias. ITS only because of Luka she changes.
>>487433119>that's just a small group of weirdos who came there to get rapedh-haha but we wouldn't do anything like that right guys?right, guys??
>>487433119Granberia alone is able to take over a Main City of the humans without a scratch.
>>487433520And accomplish precisely dick besides pissing off Ilias, if she went through with it
>>487433119>harpy quest line was written weirdSuffering critical ecstasy changes a man.
I'm only going MW route to get Luka raped by Angels desu
I'm never going MW route because I can just request gentle loving rape by angels desu
>>487433814>implying AW route isn’t going to end in Luka getting passed around by the Seraphs
>>486981836I can fix Monster Lord Cassandra
>>487433520I don't think that's related to this conversation. But that town was said to be filled with a bunch of inept 'heroes' who ran and hid at the first sign of danger, and all she did was come in and beat up a few guys who did stand up to her by the time Luka came around. >>487433695Nah, it's more than that, like the backstory of the quest, the inciting incident and motives, the reactions to the events, and the culmination all have issues for me.
>>487433119>First, men outnumber monsters five to one; if they were like that, monsters would be getting swarmed all the time.Outnumbering them doesn't help if a single monster is worth dozens if not hundreds of trained soldiers, not talking about the strongest ones that can probably take on hundreds of thousands of regular soldiers without any effort>Most humans at least somewhat follow Ilias' teachings, and many avoid interacting with monsters outright.And how does that help? Humanity is still fucked if a single stronger monster has a woman moment and decides to raze some random town to the ground because some hero dared to try and stop her from taking a few slavesThe only reason mgq's humanity exists is because some monsters are trying to be good and are forcing the rest to behave, if they ever change their minds and no longer support coexistance than humanity is fucked.
>>487433119I still remember 'coexistence' in Part 3 og time.>>Oh a spider girl murdered my comrades and friends and i was saved at the last minute, but getting screwed to death felt soooo good!>> That felt more like humans getting enslaved and brainwashed by pleasure then a good end.
>>487432621>too retarded to know about harpies giving birth to boys
>>487435783Not him, but if you can cite that I'd be happy.I'm still pretty fucking sure that bird girls lay eggs and humans can't hatch out of fucking eggs.
>>487432465Cope>>487432886Monmusu TD has both actually
>>487435879One guy says his harpy wife said she can decide to have a boy; considering Alice later does this, it seems like a skill a monster can learn, likely tied to their ability to control what genes get passed on.
>>487436003Yeah, but loli Alice is a skin and not a new unit, so I'll pretend that it's not the same thing
I was reading one of the Q&As, and something I found interesting is that according to TrTr, a man's strength is linked to his virility, and doing something like castration would make a man much weaker.
>>487434602Granberia attacks twice. The royal guards of San Ilia couldnt do anything towards her either. There is nothing that suggests that humans would be able to stop her.
>>487436421king coomer can fight against monster girls
>>487436137They did that in paradox in og mgq it was seen as a strange mutation that can occur sometimes.
>>487436421Pornoff shall inherit the earth
>>487436137>>487435879>>487435783In fact.>Q: If a monster gave birth to a male child, what kind of method they will use to raise their sons?>A: Since most of the monster-human hybrid boys were born intentionally by their high-level monster mother, the boy will be treated according to those intentions.To me this supports the idea that it's something a monster can learn to do with enough power and skill.>>487436818Both are true for both.
>most monsters can't have sons because skill issueYou can't protect the future of humanity like that!
>>487436946I am pretty sure they added the 'high level monsters can give birth to boys' later to fix some problems and to have Alice give birth to a boy for the end.
>>487436787>>487436935Based on some other stuff, I believe it may work the other way. Getting strong and /or having strong genes will make you more virile.And strength is stored in the balls.
>>487436421>>487437808>do push-ups and squats>learn regeneration magic>job change to merchant>sell cum to monster girls at a rate of 10 gold per 5mlI think... I've found the answer....
>>487438167Now you're thinking like a capitalist Jimmy.
>>487437474Succubi are just... weak!
>>487438565>succubus sluts keep going after you, despite being married to your human girl wife>brace yourself, but then she steps in front of you>you close your eyes, minutes pass>nothing but moaning and writhing bodies on the ground>she turns toward you>you realize in horror that>it's your turn
TrTr states that at the end of part 3, Luka can reach escape velocity if he wants.
>>487438870Why are normal human girls so powerful?
>>487439089I don't think it's a matter of human strength.
>>487438870>human girl "wife" has sex with others tooAccurate.
>>487439764It's not cheating if it's sex monsters!
>>487438870I'm going to... Alice...
Love makes the man taste better.
>avatarfag that latched onto one of my favorite series enters cuckshit territoryA shame, but not unexpected.
Bub happy ending!
>>487441207I hate cucks, but Alice doesn't get good at touching succubi without ever touching succubi
>>487441207>battlefuckers are cuckshit nowlol
>>487418202Sounds like you need some weedkiller
>>487418202
Bitches call me the meal.
>cuckshitLol, the game is about all-powerful monster girl rapists and he's still obsessed with NTR. All the best heroines already raped hundreds of men and that's a good thing.
>>487441983>he thinks posting about your wife fucking others in front of you without you joining in isn't at least a borderline caseOk anon
>>487442976>he-Alma Elma at the fort during the infiltration into Grangold territory.
>>487441207Your brainrot is lethal
I don't know if this is going to turn into some kind of purityfag war or a stealthy cuck operation and don't really care, but settings where everyone is fucking everyone probably aren't the best field of battle for either
>tfw my party members are cucking me since they use pleasure attacks on the enemy during fights
Tamamo once took 16 guys at once.
>>487443456Probably the latter, we did have someone commissioning art with that kind of fetish.
Let's calm down and do the slime dance together
>>487421223>Ilias adding Puruel and Inuel to the Angel register.The dog and the bunny slime or whatever that traveled with her? that's cute as fuck.
>>487445116Are you referring to Tamamo x Luka art? That’s just based off of picking Tamamo in the epilogue of the first game
>>487445531Yeah, she makes them ordained Angels which honestly helps show how much she has grown..
I bet B.Alice and Sonya would love to have this teddy.
>>487447129>Bugs is a demon of the Wilder race and can be found in the Container Yard and subsequent areas in Da'at: Shinagawa. >Bugs is one of the demons required to summon Alice through special fusion.Heh, summon Alice you say.
Woke up this morning and decided to try searching for MGQ stuff on Skeb for the first time in a long while, only to notice that almost every picture of Mariel has apparently been deleted? There used to be like 10 results for her, and now the only Mariel pictures left are two that Jingai Modoki drew somewhat recently. What's going on?
>>487453738She was taking the pictures as encouragement, and the top Angels decided that was bad.
>>487453738Loli/Shota are getting purged en-masse.
Why couldn't she have finished eating Mikubus and the Terminatorel?
>>487455913Explain. This can't actually be happening right?
>>487455913If that's so how far gone is Japan these days...
>>487432886Three Charms doesn't take any side on it. Also TD just did whatever it wanted to have some of the main characters there since Alicetroemeria is there two, and it already had OG Alice so adding Paradox Alice would just confuse things
>>487456486Unironically weaker than Alma Elma. She only had luck that those two are retards, and not ungabunga strength retards like Lilith and Eden who can instakill her.
>entire castle of girls fighting for Luka's semenBrutal hypergamy, the polygyny threshold has been utterly annihilated in the process and Promestein rationalised every step of the way alongside it.
>>487460734Humans should reclaim the world and dole out monster wives to every human man in a wonderful patriarchal society.It doesn't matter that a monster girl can overpower a single man if the collective of human men and aunt tammys are willing to beat down anyone who upsets the natural order.
>>487461814There are not enough monsters to do this.
>>487462152You and I can share a fox slave.
>>487438870Not again...
>>487460734He's usually the one going to them, though.
>>487462412The ratio if 5:1 men to monsters.
>>487462594N-no...
>>487462789This doesn't make a lot of sense since so many mgq monsters have lots of kids. Are they eating each other or something? Anyway it just means we need a breeding program.
>>487462594>get a human hopelessly addicted to monster pussy>b-b-b-b-b-but he comes to me willingly!Luka needs love, not rape.
>>487463308>love, not rape.You try to explain the difference to these girls.
>>487463037>Are they eating each other or something?People always say kill vore monsters, but most of them are like Arachne in a cave eating Kitsunes instead of people or the Canaan sisters eating the insects. They're the ones that keep humanity as the overpopulated ones.
>>487458034>Shikipuff girls and unholy trinity are tired from fighting Adra.>Adra gets reborn even stronger than before.>Severely damaged Sony still manages to mutually destroy her.>Full power Sony < Alma....Something isn't right.
>>487463037>Are they eating each other or something?To some extent, yes, but I feel that most monsters just don't have many kids at a time.
>>487463774They were holding back. Wait until Eden shows what she can do in part 3.
>>487463541Well, that's easy! You see, the difference is... It is, um... Huh.
>Llilith sisters can do something retarded randomly kill Marcellus and not even get a slap on the hand aside from the mandatory time jannies>The moment Eden is actually ready to annihilate the party AW!Ilias personally tardwrangles herYou know, maybe totalitarianism isn't so bad after all...
>>487465378Powerful idiots need a firm hand.
>>487465378The secret third true route will end up just being a modified AW route, yuo will see…
HiSo, I've been running a monster girl games collection for some time and seeing how the IPFS collection seems to have disappeared, anons here might find it useful:https://mggcollection.neocities.org/listI'm aiming to have every every worthwhile monster girl game there (excluding cuckshit focused ones, puzzle slop and similar absolute bottom of the barrel trash) so suggestions for new additions are always welcome if I'm missing something.Password should be obvious enough.Also, I'm starting a project for game mini-reviews. It was coined up by someone else, but seeing how he disappeared I've decided to take over. Having such mini-reviews for those games would solve the eternal issue of>recommend me game with {X}and could put more games to spotlight. The reviews/descriptions are linked in the collection or just directly here:https://pst.innomi.net/paste/56qfzye4yugfekgrz6trptbdIt contains the original guidelines for those reviews, but if anyone has ideas how to make it better ,feel free to suggest.Those willing to contribute should cross-check if the game is not already reviewed and post their review(s) in the same format as existing ones as a new ghostbin paste here and I'll integrate that into the main list. It would be best to make sure the game name is exactly the same as it appears in the collection to make ctrl+f easier.
>>487466009There was this one Fire Emblem clone who's name I forgot.
>>487465859>The key to saving the multiverse will be just giving Ilias what she wantedkino...
Spider Girls should be humanitys cute eight-legged Guardians. Protecting humans by snacking on pests like beelzebubs and kitsunes ^_^
>>487467615If you haven't got a cute spider girl living in the corner of your house then your children are at risk of KITSUNE ABDUCTION.
>>487468008Plus. They can spin silky clothes for you and your Family and make sure there are no hairs of pesky furry creatures in your home!
>>487466429>who's name I forgot.
>>487468907Reminder that this line is fanfiction.
>>487418286Trtr's trying to give us the authentic smt experience
>>487432207Not really white rabbit said that was strange that mad hatter gone out of his way to not choose the illsa timeline
>>487471109No, she said Cheshire did it for her meaning White Rabbit also would go out their way for Alice route.
>>487466009a (you) for your good work, anon-sama
>>487434828Enslaved and brainwashed by pleasure isn't a good end?
>>487477386No, it's not. Unless you've given up any will to life.
>>487477386Don't listen to the heretic, pleasure is the source of all life.
>>487479872No, life is the source of pleasure.
>>487480769You think the last universal common ancestor (LUCA) didn't have the desire/pleasure to give rise to all subsequent life on Earth?
Having the abaddon be mostly my finding the missing flies is getting on my nerves
>>487464805>They were holding back.They were most certainly not.>Wait until Eden shows what she can do in part 3.You mean now that she has a brand new weapon?
>>487485315She always had that weapon.
>>487485709In wouldn't know since I haven't plahyed Part 3. Well, in that case it's just bullshit, because it makes no sense for her to just let the creature that keeps coming back stronger beat her up and tire her.
>>487486751>In wouldn't know since I haven't plahyed Part 3.I wouldn't know since I haven't played Part 3.*
>>487463308>love, not rape.You try explaining the difference to Luka.
>do the whole collab because I wanted more of Myusca>recruit her>her request event is basically the same dialogue than one of the deaths you get by losing>only one request>no interactions in the map
>>487474704scylla love
>>487465378This demo really soured me on monster world, it's run by not only sociopaths but also fucking morons and our Alice becoming monster pilled and okay with mass slaughter when even IIIas is hesistant to accept such a barbaric action on top of that Black Alice saying Paradox Alice is more like her than she thought really REALLY makes me realize it took a lot of wanting to lewd and love the shota from the OG Luka that his Alice didn't turn out twisted like this and yet the best he could do is turn her into a neglictful mother both kids don't really like despite loving their day lots and lots. Jesus christ, was Alice always this shit as a character? IIIas at least has an excuse for being as fucked up a person as she is but I guess it's a bit unfair since Paradox is showing her change to the point on the route you don't pick her she puts her two monster companions into the angel registry to make sure they'll be safe and protected, that's a pretty big step from someone like her.
>>487477834But monsters aren't doing snuff very often anymore, right?
>>487488928>But monsters aren't doing snuff very often anymore, right?
Why are shitliasfags prone to samefagging?
>>487489507nyoooluka heeeeelp
>>487489703There are at least two of us though :DCan you deboonk his post?
Are there any jobs/classes from other RPGs that you would like to be added in Paradox?
Alice said that you're much more likely to get killed by another human than by a monster, and that was with human-monster relations being worse than they are in Paradox or at the end of the VN.
>>487491576I mean it's obvious when most humans live with other humans.
>>487491576Alice is the monster Lord don't take her propaganda seriously
>>487491417Evil Eyes! They'd probably just be a recruitable Beast/Yoma, though.
>>487491576Yes I will definetly trust the monster that will dryfish/vore/abandon Luka if he chooses wrong.Surely she's a trustworthy, unbiased source.
>>487492347Go get charcoaled somewhere else
>>487491576Considering there's an entire faction of spiders, led by their princess, with the ultimate goal of subjugating the local human populace by violent means... I'm just gonna compromise and say it depends on the species
>>487491576>>487491847>>487492069>>487492347>>487492853It makes sense; think about it: humans greatly outnumber monsters, and people are typically killed by someone they personally know, which in this case would mostly be other humans.
>>487491847>>487492991At the same time, monsters won't be as prone to conflict if they have socialization with and easy access to humans.It's probably a wash.I really don't think that>haha everyone's getting vored now!!is what TRTR intended as the epilogue.It doesn't fit with the messages of the game.>>487492069>>487492347In the metanarrative context of that part of the VN, Alice is being used by TRTR to explain facts of the world to the player.>>487492853That's true.IMO, humans should give nice monstergirls free rape license in exchange for bullying the mean monstergirls into either changing or going extinct.
Is monster 'n girls any good?
>>487496998I played Super and thought it was good.
>>487435783>the year is 2050 AI (After Ilias)>"human women" are a legend recorded in ancient books
>>487500056Harpy wife, happy life.
grinding all the synthesis materials for long synthesis chain items does not sound funparticularly, I would have to identify where all the grind areas are for the different items, and whether I can get items via item drop, or if I need to set up thieves or material thieves...I think I'll stick to items I can buy in a shop and maybe some 1 or 2 step synthesis
Aside from collab characters, who should be re-equipped?I.E. the game will throw you into a battle using them without access to the equip screen?Also, makes me think, I wish exclusive equipment didn't get unequipped when you do that.
>>487415102>worse exclusive companionsliterally the only compelling companion on Alice route is Black Alice THOUGH
>>487432238She's embittered and angry in OT and is basically going around looking for proof that humans are bad
>>487505805Do you even Yao?
>>487507654Compared to the seraphs complete garbage. They have why more interesting scenes and dialog
>>487510615Pathetic winged elves can't compete with big meaty paws
How good are synthesis chain items, and how hard is it to get all those various materials?Maybe you're better off just diving into the LoC with Est...
>>487492991It makes absolutely no sense considering there are Monsters that state themselves that they have killed hundreds of humans and enjoyed it greatly.Its the typical narrative of OT mgq where the heinous acts commited by Monsters are completly ignored and later blamed on Ilias or that humans are intolerant as if it would be impossible to have well understandable grudges against them based on theur own behavior.
>>487511954Ruyi-Bang is the best club in the game so far due to it not fucking up AGI, but it will most likely be outclassed in sheer STR by something later
>>487510998Kitsunes are boring trash and yao IS the shitiest of them all with her weird face
>>487512078Maybe there aren't very many monsters like that on the grand scale of things?We go diving deep into monster territory and fighting the strongest and meanest out there.Guess it depends on how big human populations are, and how bad the crime rate is.
>>487512078I think MGQ should have shown incidents of humans being cruel to monsters, to balance out the blame.Not just kicking them out of their settlements, but pillaging villages of weaker monsters, hunting them, etc.
>>487512261You're the reason kitsunes should rape humans.
>>487512358Lets assume its just 10 that eat 100 people that would be 1000 humans killed. Then we add that Monsters Like Cassandra the spider princess have dozens of followers...Then we add the hundreds of Monsters that prey 'just' occasionally on humans...Then we add the Monsters that leave humans dead or crippled after intercourse...And then i am meant to believe its just big News cause a Monster did it and its actually rare...And that also ignores the many Monsters that kidnap and enslave people...Suspension of disbelieve goes Out the window.
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>>487516898
So what's is cushion-kun deal? Is he the administrator? Or is he just under him
tl:dr medieval times were already very bloody>>487515221I'm going to leave the occasionally preying monsters for another postokay, dozens of high-ranking followers per major group of cruelty-minded monsters48x8 = 384let's assume 400 monsters whose preferred meal is humansnot sole, just preferred, so we can skip the increased metabolic demands of a monster, and go straight to an apex predator(plus, humans are probably extra nutritious for monsters because of the same supernatural mumbo jumbo that makes semen the preferred monster fuel)a lion eats ~7kg per day, and a medieval adult human weighs ~70kg36.5 per year, so only a few years to rack up 100 kills, which fits the description of "eats 100 people"36.5 * 400 = 14,600 per yearaverage murder rate is 5.8 per 100,000medieval murder rate is apparently 10x higher (at least for medieval britain, which fits the type of fantasy setting we're in)(14,600 / 58) * 100,000 = 25 million1492 world population is estimated at 425-450 millionthese crazy monsters only make up 1 in 18 murders (the other 17 were killed by humans, and I don't think this is counting war, just murder - given the territorial manner of monsters, you could attribute some of this to what is essentially a war of territory)
>>487520910“A high-level Vampire who wields powerful magic who resupplies her own energy through human semen and blood. She usually resides in the northern continent, but is known to travel south and attack the Gold Region when she gets hungry. When she goes south, nearly 100 humans end up attacked by her. If she attacks a female, she sucks their blood and makes them her servant. If it’s a man, she rapes him as she sucks out his blood. In addition, her mantle is an extension of her body, able to squeeze out and absorb semen.With no human soldier able to stand against her, she’s treated almost as a natural disaster. When the Vampire appears, the nearby humans can only pray to Ilias until she’s finished.” Thats the monsterpedia entry for the basic vampire... The one that resides in hellgondo and follows alice...I go after what is in the game not mix up things how i would like. Your example with the lion is completly made up.
>>487522221Does it say how many out of those 100 are killed?
>>487522343The point is your example with the lion doesnt work because its all made up numbers. if a single vampire needs to attack hundreds of humans if hungry it doesn't really match. Hell sara would squeeze all sabasa to death alone in her succ form.Also it takes several amounts of disbelieve that in mgq live even close to 100 mio people. hell even 50 mio people. There are 3 continents and 1 is completly uninhabitated by humans. Even on the ilias continent are areas completly devoit of humans. Luka takes about 1-2 days from his village to illiasburg by foot. So we can estimate how "big" this world is. There are only 4-5 big human cities. non of them feel like metropolis like rom for example.
The most important thing for a centaur is to be happy!
>>487524281That's fair.I'd say the numbers in MGQ just don't make sense a lot of the time.For example, the timeline looks ridiculous.
Deep sea mating.
>>487493312>humans should give nice monstergirls free rape licenseBut what if they start making fake rape passes and giving them to mean monster girls?
>>487526780Not a literal physical license, you dumb monster...*sigh*
>>487528816Then how do we know which monsters are and are not allowed to rape without a rape license?If we need regulations for weapons, then we need regulations for monster pussy too.
>>487529137Rape licenses are unconstitutional. The right of monsters to freely use their pussies shall not be infringed.
Rape licences sound very brittish.
>>487491417Looking at other games because Paradox does most of them already>Geomancer (Final Fantasy games)It would be a cool idea that of course would suck but it'd be interesting to have a job that gives strength to every tile.>Dark Hunter (Etrian Odyssey)They use whips but it's more in line that it's about bondage. Something that whips should have now that since the collab made them more into pleasure.>Imperial (Etrian Odyssey)Iirc they have some gun nuke sword and it does big damage but uses turn cooldowns like Black Souls does. A cooldown based job is something we don't haveAlso fuck it give Super Novice just because of Novissa. And a calvary and pegasus job line because of all the mounted units in SRPGs
haahahahahahahaahaa
>>487530553It's a big ask to expect random people to know about a giant fucking tech lab in an isolated city in an isolated continent.
>confused villager noise.ogg>>487532189oh sure, it's just hilarious in hindsight
>>487530407>cavalry and pegasus jobsI'm guessing they'll be terrain based like Geomancer? Geomancer could be used as support to make them work on terrains they usually wouldn't be ideal or even possible.
Wonder if we'll get Heaven Strength and Super Heaven Strength abilities from MW
I guess he's a handsome fellow?
Lichtina...
Why is Angel Halo dangerous, anyway?Is that still not explained?
>>487532920We don't know why Nero chose to take it away from Luka, but my speculation is the fact that it's made out of melted angels. Maybe the sheer number of souls in that weapon could cause a shitload of individual Cross-World Contact occurrences, or he simply thought it might happen
>>487533197Oh, that's a good point, I never thought about it that way.
>attack a village>suck people dry>people hear about deathvs>attack a village>suck people almost dry>people hear about blissful pleasureHelp your fellow monsters out, and don't dryfish!
>found a village>suck people almost dry>visitors arrive for blissful pleasureDon't put the demand ahead of the supply.
Why can't all monsters be like this?
>>487532582I guess Luka is completly fine with his companions going around raping humans
>>487535038In Luka's view, as long as they don't kill anyone, it's fine.Monsters can rape to their heart's content.
>>487532313I just threw it out there making the post. What I would think of is maybe cavalry has follow-ups or end of turn attacks where the horse tramples the enemy and the pegasus also becomes a better battlemaster/pirate king stats like job but it has flying weakness as a joke since that's rarely brought up.Terrain based horses could be interesting, but I didn't think of terrain much beyond the bad spell based on where you're at. I think horses aren't good with caves or the ocean but it like in SRPGs whatever is done it wouldn't affect them that negatively.
>>487535038I think Paradox Luka knows the ever-subtle differences between rape (unwanted) and rape (wanted)
I hope the Beelzebubs never decide to have human Boys...
>get sent to another world on an important mission>"haha let's kill this funny guy, surely he's nobody important">"wait, what's with this boss music out of sudden?"Shikis are retarded fucking apes and the only ones dumber than them are those who would side with MW
>>487536364They look very convincing through...Look at those massive arguments they have!
>>48753636430 collective iq in this image
>>487536563>Editor's Note: The IQ is not evenly distributed
>>487535192Horses job to terrain that isn't flat and stable.
>>487536561Come on they have some Level of intelligence. I mean they are able to Put clothes on and Off and now we're to Stick the peepee at. So i guess atleast 60
>>487536561They lose to angels in tits, too. And angel milk is extremely valuable monetarily as well.
>>487536610True, but Paradox only has 6 terrain tiles. It would need a massive update if it wants a serious terrain job.
>>487537559The monster girl world doesn't have any tropical areas or savannas or jungles... hell the entire equatorial area seems to be missing.
>>487512078>>487512358Consider that monsters live hundreds of years and the ones saying this seem to be among the older ones. A monster that's 300-500 years old, killing hundreds of people over her lifetime, would be a lower rate than many real-world serial killers and certian soldiers.>>487513302Well, an entire city used mind-controlled monsters as a workforce. I would mention the bombings, but that didn't do much to the monsters.
On a side note, it would help if we saw any of the evil monsters showing genuine remorse for their behavior. Some kinda do, but not by much.
monster talks shit about killing humans>"I-I'll stop you!"human talks shit about killing monsters>"RARGHH HULK SMASH! DIE DIE DIE DIE DIE DIE"To MGQ's credit, it's still nowhere near as dumb as SHRIFT with that
>>487539129I mean, when a monster does it, Luka almost immediately starts swinging, him just grabbing the guy by the neck is showing restraint, considering his MO.
>>487538319The atlach-nacha is one of the oldest monsters and she claims to be just 200 years old."My age...do you have any idea?" 20 years old - "Did you really think I was such a young girl...?" (-5 Affinity) 200 years old - "I am roughly around that age... You understand well..." (+10 Affinity) 2000 years old - "I'm not that old..."
>>487539409>showing restraintHe lost control of himself and Alice had to talk him out of strangling him to death. Him "swinging" at monsters is very different, the whole point of angel halo is that he doesn't have to hold back because he knows it will never actually harm them.
>>487539129In OT mgq Humans are "subhumans" and monsters are the "human beings".
>>487539873From memory, the guy was able to speak, implying Luka wasn't grabbing him that hard, especially considering that Luka could have snaped his neck with no effort and he was already upset beforehand.
>>487540072>The death of one monster is a tragedy. The death of entire village of humans is a statistic
>>487539836She's not old; she just comes from an old bloodline/species, which is why she says she's a living fossil like a Horseshoe Crab.Based on other dialogue 400-500 seems to be old for monsters.
>>487540169He would have killed Lazarus If Alice wouldnt be there! What are you talking about? How many Monsters has Lazarus really killed compared to even the Likes of Alma elma.
>>487539129Genocide Kazuya would have a point if Genocide Kazuya himself wasn't a bit of a special case. Appearing out of nowhere and not only killing but forcibly claiming the souls of humans in droves doesn't endear most of them to me.That being said, Sphinx did absolutely nothing wrong and I won't forgive anyone who was happy to hurt her
>>487540396I was talking about the random IK member he encountered before that. Now, with Lazarus, Luka starts the conversation off pretty calm before he starts talking about killing his father; on top of that, there's the fact that Luka has seen him harm and probably kill other humans with his bombs.
>>487540620Didn't SHRIFT dev get so butthurt at genocide players that one of later DLCs was all about showing how horrible and totally non-canon genocide kazuya is?I only finished base game because I couldn't stomach any more of dev's retardation so I don't know for sure.
>>487540620The funniest thing about SHRIFT is the worst monsters are ex-humans. Genocide Kazuya killing Titanoboa or Arachne doesn't mean anything outside his special context.
In MGQ, monsters who kill are the exception, and we at least see them get incapacitated. In Shrift, Demons who kill are outright the norm, and while beaten, we don't see them get any kind of punishment.
>>487540345Even then, there exist entire settlements of them and the so called "good" Monsters under Alice have in many cases no qualms about killing humans either. So to say "humans Just make a big deal out of it. Its really sheldom trust be bro" is extremly hard Believe. Not to mention that mgq is a relative peaceful world with no real wars except the two Major ones.
>>487540719He isnt calm in either Situation. He did attack based on shit talk and with Lazarus we see were things would have gone. Name a single case were we see Luka behave like this towards a monster.Also we now assume Lazarus kills humans based on literally nothing that supports this but at the same time we must assume that monsters like the spider princess have a relative poor kill count. Ok
Lazarus was right
>>487541328The only settlement like that is Ladies Village, which is pretty new.And which monsters are you talking about? I can only think of two that applies to. Eru, who is losing her mind, and Alma is said to only kill to protect her, or when a man who directly challenges her loses because she believes it's a requirement as a succ queen.
>>487540850Yes, the final DLC spent like half its screen time screeching about how Genocide route is evil and gay and non-canon, and Genocide!Kazuya turns into a literal brainless monster (that has a sex scene UNLIKE MY ANGEL GF), and if you liked it you're akshually just a niggerman puppet. If you finish the DLC you literally can't do Genocide route at all anymore.There was also him throwing a fit out-of-game by saying he'll ignore any feedback on Genocide route and only likes fans who want to be friendly with his edgy OC daughters. I think he even actually banned doing that on his personal shitcord.
>>487542582Based dev.
>>487542206>cut Perfectly Normal Human POW's shirt open>entire squad instantly cums to death from the pheromones
>>487542582This is fucking hilarious, dude is like the other side of the autism spectrum polar opposite of faggots writing edgy shitfics about OC donut steels or isekai'd dark souls characters murdering monster girls for no reason.
>>487542582I wonder how this place will shitpost about hating Paradox when the third route does the same to AW and MW and makes you kill no one.
>>487542402The arachneas have an underground settlement. The Vampires have a settlement. The whole plant Monsters in plansect are vore based and have a settlement. Even If Lady village is new she still was preying on humans before that and so did her tribe. The Monsters in hellgondo all kill Luka. Alma elma in mgq OT is the Prime example where its literally the narrative that decides she is good. Her reasons are retarded If humans would apply them viceversa they had to literally purge all monsters. Which would be seen as evil since monsters are the human beings
>>487541995He was willing to stop and listen to what he had to say despite already being angry, he rarely does this with monster, and Laz encouraged him to attack. I don't recall Alice saying much to sway Luka's decision either way.Well, he bombs places, and it's said that the humans need help getting out of the rubble after the building comes down on top of them; I don't think it's a stretch to say he likely killed a few. And it isn't about the kill count being poor. Alice states humans mostly get killed by other humans. The counterpoint is there are monsters who say they've killed hundreds. What I'm getting at is that a handful of monsters killing hundreds over hundreds of years wouldn't move the needle much.
>>487543372>The arachneas have an underground settlement. The Vampires have a settlement.I thought they were like the succubi and kinda homeless.>The whole plant Monsters in plansect are vore basedIsn't that only the three sisters, who are also presented as the main troublemakers, and the other monster, decide against unsealing them?>and so did her tribe.Did she have a tribe? The impression I got is that the village was formed from (or stolen by) a few local monsters who saw things her way; they weren't previously part of the same group.
>>487543761Yes it is a stretch to assume Lazarus killed humans. There is nothing that ever mentions or supports this. If Lazarus would be a Monster Girl the argument would be 'well she doesnt actually Hurt anyone. WE don't See IT!'I don't care what Alice claims the various encounters Luka had prove her wrong but have it your way.
>>487491576>Alice said that you're much more likely to get killed by another human than by a monster, and that was with human-monster relations being worse than they are in Paradox or at the end of the VN.Don't believe the snek's lies...It's just sufficient to believe in the setting that the density and population of humans is FAR higher than the setting portrays.Think of it like every other zombie apocalypse thing, where no matter how long it goes on or how many people survive presumably by killing hundreds or thousands of zombies, the waves of the undead somehow continue to be endless in quantity and density.So just cut the vore girls some slack, there's plenty of humans!
I get the feeling the whole premise "all of these girls are actually real and this game is a tool for interacting with an alternative world" is something Shriftdev actually believes in.
>>487547030>monster girls exist but they are all jaggy ugly morderwhoresMonkey paw'd
>>487543761>>He was willing to stop and listen to what he had to say despite already being angry, he rarely does this with monster, >>When has he ever the chance of talking to a monster? They are the ones that attack him mostly to make him their toy or food. He does try to reason with some but they keep attacking him. He does try to reason with the very first slime girl.
>>487520910>tl:dr medieval times were already very bloodyAccording to who?>medieval murder rate is apparently 10x higher (at least for medieval britain, which fits the type of fantasy setting we're in)According to who?
>>487549073a quick google search
>>487542948>, dude is like the other side of the autism spectrum polar oppositeThe amount of people that just don't care is rather low, for some reason. The strangest part is shirft is full of really messed up girls and furries too.
>>487520910>(at least for medieval britain, which fits the type of fantasy setting we're in)>britainIs that why mermaids in Port Natalia get shanked with magic silence daggers so often?
>These and other gruesome details emerge from a new map created by Cambridge University’s Violence Research Centre, which details 142 murders committed between 1300 and 1340 that are documented in nine coroners’ rolls that have survived to this day...Only 32.4 percent of victims listed in the rolls are recorded as having died an instant death. Most of the victims lost their lives some time later, due to blood loss, internal injuries, or the filth and ignorance of medical care that made infections commonplace. Granting a glimpse of the poor living conditions is the case of a saddle tree maker who died three weeks after having his finger cut off in a fight. A relatively light-sounding wound, it seems likely that it slowly, torturously festered its way to becoming fatal.>sample size: 140>sampled years: 40 (notably some of the worst years in medieval English history, where a population crisis and plummeting standards of living were ongoing)>counts infected wounds as murders instead of manslaughter at bestMaybe I'm not looking at the source you looked at? But this smells of shit to me. Crime rates were rather higher in medieval Europe than in the modern world but it seems unlikely that people were just getting stabbed on the street - and importantly, people who did the stabbing were hanged or exiled afterwards.Also 1. Medieval Britain was NOT representative of medieval Europe in general for...pretty much any purpose honestly except maybe technology, the institutions were super different and 2. Medieval Europe doesn't represent the world well.>This paper constructs a quantitative history of the homicide rate in Qing China and investigates its social and economic drivers. Estimates based on historical archives indicate that this annual rate ranged between 0.35 and 1.47 per 100,000 inhabitants during the 1661–1898 period, a low level unmatched by Western Europe until the late 19th century. >0.35 - 1.47 per 100k population
>>487549876I didn't look deeply into the source, but I tried to find a statistic that wasn't from the one thing that immediately comes up and overwhelms the search results (about Oxford), and I still found 10x.I was having a hard time finding information on that part.Even with the modern rate that comes up immediately (5.8 per 100,000), it would still be about 1 in 3.That's before we consider the much more common, slightly voracious monsters, who have eaten someone once or twice.Though, this is still assuming a normal appetite, as opposed to a vampire girl sucking on 100 people in one attack. (Even if she does this only once a month, and leaving them alive, that's still a very heavy appetite.)But frankly, numbers and proportions are not TRTR's strong suit, so the implications thereof are not representative of the canon world.
(tl;dr - viewpoints don't usually change)As to the large-scale topic - whether monsters can be rehabilitated, whether the amount of vore/dryfishing is comparable to human murders or otherwise within acceptable limits, whether they will overrun society and corrupt it in an unacceptable manner...The information is imperfect, because the story is fictional and not crafted to exacting lore specifications.So our conclusions are filtered through deep-rooted values and perspectives.Do you accept the themes and ideals presented by the story, or reject them?Inevitably, it's personal, and changing viewpoints is highly unlikely.I think Gundam's Newtypes, and what happens with them, provides some insight on this matter.They were imagined by some (in-universe) to end conflict by means of perfect telepathic communication.Yet war persists, and perfectly understanding each other's incompatible ideals can even escalate conflict.
also there's a quote from F/SN I'd like to useabout humans inevitably trampling each other's irreconcilable ideals/hopes/dreams, and not to worry about itbut I can't find itit's early(ish?) in HF when Shirou is talking to Kirei
>>487551379Visualize it.
/mggg/ apocryphal savefile>A. NewsLast thread we started the actual playthrough of the apocryphal savefile after most of the preliminary stuff has been dealt with (including votes, though the job poll remains open). But due to circumstances there won't be any further progress on the project for a few weeks (pic related)>B. Current statusPreliminary Stage:DONEBonus Round:DONEStart of NG++ playthrough:ONGOINGCollab and Time Loop:TBDJob Leveling:TBDPolishing:TBD>C. Ongoing pollsPoll on advanced jobs (max. 3) for all characters:https://www.survio.com/survey/d/U5O1W5N8B5X2B9F3X>D. Basic informationThe apocryphal savefile will be the Ilias alternative to the Alice focused canonical savefile, where we do all the things, we didn't want to do the first time around.Eva is on vacation. VACATION.>Eva is archiving the part 3 ready /mggg/-canon MGQ:P savefile:https://files.catbox.moe/voc3xc.zip
>>486981836Been playing paradox and just unlocked Galda and the air travel, but Galda herself has no sprite on the world map. Looking through the sprite folder, there seems to be a sprite for her that doesn't get called properly. How do I fix it? I patched the game using the latest release as of the 22nd of July.
>>487551567Are you just quoting Shirou?If you're asking for me to go through and screenshot it -I can't, I'm low on disk space so I deleted F/SN. (complete edition is pretty big because of HD, voice lines, etc.)I need to get another SSD.I also need to get a new computer...
>>487552092>she wants me to give her two drinksGreedy succ...
I hope we see lots of unexpected twisted things in Part 3 like gentle natured arachnea girls fighting for equality and blood thirsty mermaids
>>487552364Went to the kitsune village and all the part 3 kitsunes have no world sprite either. Where did I go wrong, bros?
>>487553039The ultimate twist would be a Shiki girl who doesn’t dryfish/snuff people like that’ll ever happen
>>487553280We haven't seen Neris snuff anybody yet, so let's give credit for that first.
>>487553280Neris has been a good girl so far.Though I would like if she had big tits.
>>487547030>>487547246My Eden... aaahhh...
>>487553486Please let us keep at least one flat girl... Cowtits are already 99% of the game...
>>487553964ok thenShiki please give us a nice big-titty girl that doesn't kill us
on that note, an idea I've though about for a while>vore monster who is lovey-dovey with you and protects you>she eats other humans and monsters, you help her catch themmaybe you were all for itor maybe you were against it at first, but she mindbroke you with pleasure
>>487554768Just play Labyrinth at that point.
>>487554898I think there's a couple games with Labyrinth in the title, more specifically...?
>>487555008*please
>>487553405>>487553486Surely Neris wouldn’t kill her father, right…?
>>487555336She might kill her Father of Chaos...?>>487555008Monster Girl Labyrinth
>>487536364Luka better kill these whores for this.
ludokino ideastrategy (turn-based or real-time) game with monstergirlsset in something like MGQhave different commanders to play as(a few per faction, maybe you get some specific units like C&C Generals)every commander has a win/loss scene corresponding to every other commander(if one of them is sexually much weaker, their win scene could be BDSM exploiting the other's weakness, i.e. Granberia dripping holy water or something on a restrained Alma Elma)you're subtly encouraged to play every side of every matchup at least oncefor campaign mode, there might be story-only one-shot commanders who only have scenes for the commander you play as in that part of that campaignthis provides scenes throughout the campaign, without repeating characters in scenes as you play different campaigns
>>487556095If the demo is anything to go by, we already have one down :D
>>487556095>late into AW route>Luka finds out and gets to briefly talk to them but can't fight yet for whatever reason>just coldly tells them he's going to kill them all and leaves>shikis feel fear for the first time in their livesImagine the kino
>>487535038didn't happenbut if it did he deserved it
what if the problem with AW is everyone taken into AW vanishes when their home worlds vanish, it was all in vainor what if that happens in both worlds, the merged souls in MW revert to the original single one, the extra parts from other worlds vanishthat would be pretty heavily foreshadowed if so
>>487545384No, it doesn't. It makes logical sense that most human murders are done by other humans; the handful of mass killers among monsters wouldn't change this, even considering there may be more than we encounter in the game.Assuming MGQ cities have similar populations and murder rates to large ancient cities, monsters would have to kill around ten thousand humans each year at least to begin matching them.And as a side note, Yamata no Orochi did not harm anyone but had to be beaten down because she was disrupting things too much, so that's just outright false.
>>487556095Choosing AW is Doom Prequel!
>>487557520Lazarus the monster killerHeinrich the angel killerHuman World
>>487557741Luka the human killer
>>487557520Rip and tear... those kitsune tails!
What does Marcellus Hein look like?
>>487558254I want to reenact MGD Kotone sob story over and over again!>chain up a fox in your basement>fuck new tail into her>rip it off, sell it for fat stacks>rinse and repeat
>>487559267Their tails regrow easily, though.
>>487559451Even better, then you don't have to touch a smelly f*x and you can just rip them off every day as if she was a plant.
>>487559675I mean, the sex would probably increase the fur quality.
>>487420204what if I said it's better than IRL
Why are we discussing what to do with the foxes?The answer is obvious: hot pot.
>>487557741Luka the Chaos Killer.
>>487560163>putting something that smells worse than skunk into a hot potThe hot pot better be hermetically sealed, unless you want to have to tear down your walls
>>487559267What happened to Kotone was abhorrent, but I don't think it means we can forgive 50 years of unneeded murderJust add her to the hotpot and be done with it.
>>487557438>> It makes logical sense that most human murders are done by other humans>>Firstly this was about Lazarus bombings and the claim that lazarus have killed humans and no i don't accept this since the same claim can be done about monsters that you see kill luka if he fails so why assume it happens so rarely there?There is nothing that says that lazarus has killed humans.>>Assuming MGQ cities have similar populations and murder rates to large ancient cities>>What is an ancient large city for you? That can range form 2000 to 2.000.000 depending on region and time period. Even if we assume 2.000.000 that also means there are 200.000 monsters then since its : 1 Angel: 10: Monsters: 100 HumansThat also means there are then more man slaughtering lamias, roppers, spiders, dragons and so on.>>And as a side note, Yamata no Orochi did not harm anyone but had to be beaten down because she was disrupting things too much, so that's just outright false.>>I was thinking about the random encounters luka have when i simply travels from one place to the next that can end deadly for him. like the ropper the scorpian, the lamia ans so on. It's quite alot considering his whole journey isn't that long.
>>487560952Kotone did nothing wrong. I want to support and help her return to her murderfox ways.
>>487533197That isn't a problem because they anything that treval with Luka is legal
>>487535038>>487556903In some request scenes there are monster girls that tell Luka if he won’t let them suck him, they will be forced to attack somebody.So yeah, they don’t attack random/innocent people
https://www.pixiv.net/en/artworks/120497165Young master can’t free himself from heavy breasts
People really seem to not know or forget that MGQ is parody. I believe that this pretty much sums it up pretty well: https://1d6chan.miraheze.org/wiki/Mon_Musu_Quest!#Plot
>>487558254
>>487564435Yes but the setting it parodies is so stupid that mgq comes across as more serious. It's like the boys being satire of superheroes but just ending up more real.
>>487564435It's not entirely a parody. Sure it heavily parodies other things, but the primary theme of human/monster coexistence takes itself seriously.
>>487565921>the primary theme of human/monster coexistence takes itself seriouslyEven though a true believer would never even consider such blasphemy.
>>487532920because in a world where holy mana is in abundance due to snow heaven, Luka's body would decay at a much faster rate than the OG, especially when he unlocked his angel abilities by the second continent.
>>487566051It's true. You get occasional comedy moments where women get mad at men for fucking harpies or the succubus village stuff, but otherwise the VN pesters us with Luka and his preaching from the very beginning until the end.
>>487561581Dude it was literally stated in the VN after Lazarus bombing of schools the mermaid children were mostly unharmed while human children got killed. Sorry if it makes you mad but Lazarus is a child murderer.
So EX3 was really strange it was mostly unimportant expect for the mad hitter thing Also did the dev really think that the oberon twist will make him seams terrible? He the demon who screwed us the least
>>487564435>Step by step, Luka starts liberating, compromising and fighting his way where monsters aren't killed on sight, but not vice versa, predatory monstergirls who eat their prey, even other monstergirls, are simply seen as a cycle of life, it's the humanity that's evil in disrupting this cycle. In typical cringe anime fashion, murderous monster girls with multiple human body counts are easily forgiven, even a utterly horrific human experimenting witch, who has entrenched in a village, bribed guards to kidnap people in full sight of everyone, lock them up and torture them to death in experiments to make Iron Maiden monster girls, who are women transforming to utterly mindless torture machines to kidnap their kin and suck their blood and semen to death. Said monster woman, Lily, is forgiven as villagers call out their names, fall into despair in tears, pick their daughters' dead bodies from laboratory, but saying if they execute her they will be as evil as her. But God forgive if a human militant throws a grenade to scare off misunderstood mermaids, they deserve petrification and death. Oh, the witch village's guards are forgiven back in their posts. Ilias did nothing wrong.
>>487568819Wait, they let her live?I convinced myself they executed her, was I wrong?You don't see her after her defeat right?
>>487569645Did you forget chapter 3 ?
>>487569840She did nothing wrong!
>>487569840I'm going to be honest, when the battle scenes between the humans+monsters vs angels came up, I held the skip button
Lily was in the right, even if she's human, she knew monsterization is the only right path.
>>487564435>Right Trudeau?Lolwut? Someone must've vomited all over that section because it used to be a lot shorter and didn't have those insane ramblings.
>>487566395I was pointing out the sinful nature of coexistence. The very first commandment basically forbids it.
>>487567883Why are you clowns always make up shit and create your own fanfiction? Sorry if it makes you sad. I just replayed that part! It's exclusive a mermaid school no humans there!
>>487561581I think there's some confusion. The Lazarus thing was a tangent about why Luka shows so much anger toward him. One reason is that Luka has seen him harm other humans and that there's a possibility he has killed humans.I am working with the assumption that the major cities each have 100k-400k people, similar to many large cities in ancient and medieval times. However, it's hard to say.That said, I figure most of Luka's opponents believe he was going to kill them if he won. First, AH does real injuries, to the point that a person can kill with it if they are skilled enough. This means that from the perspective of the monsters, it probably looks like Luka is trying to cut them down. To add to this, in Paradox, monsters seem strangely sure if they lose to a man, they will be either killed or raped. I feel this is very important to think about when you consider that the majority won't kill Luka if they win.
>>487572203Why don't you play the game? Retarded lazarustard*city06_05lsp 700,":a;chara\mob_Mermaid2.bmp",0,0:print 10,500gosub *setwindow_01name "Mermaid A ">Us Mermaids are a lot stronger than humans... @>Even if they bomb our buildings, more humans always die than monsters. \>...We're worried that our presence is hurting the other citizens. \lsp 700,":a;chara\mob_seinen2.bmp",0,0:print 10,500gosub *setwindow_01name "Ruffian ">I used to be part of Ilias Kreuz, but I fell out with them. @>They got kind of... Ya know... \>Before with Marcellus leading us, his whole mantra and method resonated with me, ya know? \>But now, Lazarus... @>He's kind of crazy. \>He just throws bombs all over the place, whether there are humans there or not. @>Me and a lot of other guys just couldn't deal with that. \
Lazarusfag OBLITERATED
>>487567883Thats the second bombing...
>>487572725None of that confirms that there is a single human casualty. Lazarus's leadership is just a bit reckless.
>>487573398>more humans always die than monsters>none of that confirmsSo you're just shitposting, got it. Lazarustards really are pitiful like that.
>>487572725That refers to if bombs would be used that are strong enough to kill monsters. There isn't a death confirmed by Lazarus.
>>487573579Dunno how to tell you this but humans are not resilient to bombs like monsters are.
>>487573539In case if bombs strong enough to kill them are used you clown. Nothing confirms human casulties since you claimed that there are human children getting killed you sure can prove it.
>>4875735390>0 according to that dumb fish. It's just pulling bullshit out of it's scaly ass trying to humiliate mankind for resisting monster opression.
>>487573819The school is a human+mermaid children school, if you bomb it obviously it hurts the children more.
>>487573807There are two cases where bombs where used. non confirms any casualties! The mermaid is speaking in hypotetical.
>>487573398I'm sure that testimonies from both a human and a mermaid don't mean anything at all when talking about terrorist attacks that are plainly stated to be a bit of a trend.
>>487573874>no it's not true because it hurts my feelingsSad >>487574026It does confirm, but you need to learn how to read.
>>487574026>>487573819That would make sense if she said, "More humans would die." but she says, "More humans always die than monsters."
Lazarus the child murdering subhuman talking about monsters le bad is just pure comedy
There we go, good 'old monster apologists popping in to say hi.
>>487574142Oh shut up you selfimportant twat! There isn't a confirmed kill in the vn by lazarus and in case of the mermaid school you refer to no children where hurt you dumb fag!
>>487574464>just close your eyes and it didn't happenSad
>>487574026>>487574464In those bombings, sure. But you're going out of your way to ignore the unsubtle implication that previous ones were actually VERY successful at killing human children because it hurts your argument, aren't you?
>>487574027>mermaidLying whore>ex-IC humanSpineless traitor >>487574142There are no casualties. With how the game is, if there was a single human victim, it would be constantly showed into the player's face, trying to make IC seem like the bad guys
>>487574703>still going "not true because it hurts my feelings"VERY SAD
>>487574248>>487574651TrueLazarustard doesn't even understand basic English, probably a turdworlder too
Lazarusfag destroyed. he's already going through the 5 stages of grief. Denial first.
>>487574770Ok bro, show me the bodies. Oh wait there isn't a single one, and the only source that says otherwise is a biased as hell monster.IK did nothing wrong!TMD
>>487574332>child murderingDon't forget friend killing.
>>487575779>there needs to be dead bodies shown on the screen for it to be realVery, very sad, lazarusfags are pitiful
>>487575779>"how do we know that Luka sealed the imps into bats if we never actually see the bats? the only thing we see is text (in the text-heavy visual NOVEL) that plainly states that it happened"Same retarded logic
>>487576249>child murdering and friend killingJust your average day in the life of someone who doesn't embrace monstergirls.
>>487576263Consider theraphy you raging fag :D
Despite being a fucking insane mass murdering berserker Heinrich unironically never harmed a single human, literally more intelligent than lazarus.
Think Lazarus, Think!
>>487576263>>487576362Very simple, what Luka sees (and is described to players) can be assumed to be absolute truth, while what Luka hears from other characters can be false, if said other characteres have personal incentive to bend the truth, then it is safe to assume that they are not telling the absolute turth. Therefore it is safe to assume that there isn't a single human fatality by Ilias Kreuz, and anything else is monster propaganda.
>>487576729If he never harmed a single human then why did he 1-shot the battle fuckers in my party?
>>487576904The game usually makes it very obvious when a character's word can't be trusted, though.>>487576943Assumed they were monsters in disguise.
Luka hates his father, who was a human. Luka lets monstergirls get away with everything while he brutally executed humans for daring to protest.Luka is a monsterboy.Luka hates humanity.
>>487576669I accept your concession
This Lazarustard started making up headcanon where Luka "executed humans" lmao he's losing it. Deranged creatures just like their child murdering and friend killing "idol".
>>487577185He hates his father as he believes he abandoned him and his mother.Nearly the entire game is him beating up monsters, and he only seals a group of active terrorists.Sort of.No.
Lazarus did literally nothing wrong ;)He didn't kill a SINGLE HUMAN child!
>>487576943Because you didn't grind for Vicarious Clara and Endure/Miracle of the Goddess.
Everyonetake your fucking meds before next thread
>emojiLazarustard snapped, careful not to go outside and shoot up a school
>>487577457He is a self-loathing masochist. He lets predators manhandle him at will, suppresses other humans and when he finds out he's an angel he also suppresses the literal angel goddess.
>>487577619So what happened to Luka "executing humans"
>>487577619When does he suppress other humans? He turns against Ilias after realizing she was an instigator.
>>487577614You Mad! Keep raging like Luka
>>487577872I'm not the one using emojis and exclamation points here though.
>>487577121>The game usually makes it very obvious when a character's word can't be trusted, though.It is 4d chess by trtr that you won't understand if you don't go in with the right mindset and with the right information. I'm guessing you didn't see that, so it is not surprising that you are trying to defend an objective (and by word of god) false stance. You see I've spent the last month going through it all, and only now am I able to glance at the subtext that lies hidden between the midsection of the lines, and it paints a very clear, but also very opaque subject. So therefore you don't know the true power of the dark side of history in where lies the truth of the matter that is to say that surrendering to ilias after killing black alice leads to a secret post-credits scene which explains it all in great detail.
Meds.
The two heroes that turned against the goddess were tempted into sin gradually by the monster lords they traveled with. I'm pretty sure the monsterlords have an advanced technique to gradually implant suggestions into a males brain by having sex aka a more advanced manipulation of the critical ecstasy condition.
>>487577970Yes cause you get angry and i laugh my ass of. ^_^
>>487578001>literally schizo ramblingsMindbroken
Funnily, IK has probably only succeeded in making monsters look good.
>>487578042Brought us over bump limit.I assume someone is here to just fuck around.
>>487578218Kek true, their retardation only made me side with monstergirls even more.
>>487577970>he doesn't have emojis already in his filters
>>487578218STOP MAKING IK LOOK GOOD! THE GAME ALREADY DOES IT ENOUGH!
>>487578193Calm down don't shoot up a school like your "idol"
>>487578225Then may mods shoot him if he's here to stay after
>>487578720No dont tell him my Secret!!1 :^)
>>487578218I'm gonna be honest the only reason I like IK is because in this setting monster girls are a protected class who only get a 2 day time out (sealing) for committing murder, buz Ilias Kreuz actually tries killing them, so they're basically vigilantes fighting for justice
>>487578397I mean, in the universe with the whole monster pulling humans from the rubble.
>>487578993I Bet you are much much closer to this then me through. I mean you are basically a case study by this point. ;)
>>487579378>no ulol
>>487579304>, buz Ilias Kreuz actually tries killing themThey don't really, not only do they target the more civil monsters their methods mostly just cost human lives and property damage.Sealing is a good punishment on paper, strip the strengths monsters take so much pride in and show her what it's like to be weak and helpless. The issue is that it can last anywhere from a day to a long ass time, depending on the situation.
>>487580080>seal foxgirl into fox>pass her around to get gangraped by human men
>>487580675literal foxfuckers...
>>487227384Our perfect angel can be lonely.>>487228761would
>>487580778
>>487581002Fun idea. Man takes a pet, not knowing it's a sealed monster, and it suddenly wears off one day years later.
>>487581260That's the second panel.
>>487582391That's more about the monster choosing to transform. I'm more thinking of a guy just lying with his seemingly normal pet, and to both their surprises, it turns back into a woman.
>>487572238NTA but>monstergirls worried they will be killed or raped if they loseKilled? Likely. Raped? Hell no, not when critical ecstasy exists. In this universe, every human male becomes extremely weak and near-paralyzed after experiencing an orgasm.
>>487583298Will that also is true for monster's but no Man can get a monster to cum
>>487583298Just use your fingers and tongue, not your penisThis confuses the monstergirl
>>487583298Several monsters express the belief they are going to be raped or killed if they lose and offer their bodies to Luka. Part of the issue is that CE isn't well described, but it seems it's not as debilitating for most as it is for Luka.
>>487580080LAZARUZ 2024!
Bake it already
>>487583963he's dead, paradox lazarus is a neutralfag
>>487583879>>487583645>>487583298Some other evidence is that a few monsters do cum during their scenes but are able to continue having sex with no issue, and the monsters express confusion at how Luka just lays there. Both imply that CE has much less of an effect on most people.
>>487583879>offer their bodiesCan you recall specific girls that were scared of getting raped? Several do the fake “oh no I am so weak and vulnerable I sure hope the hero does not take advantage of me” honey pot act which seems more of a last resort to try and fuck Luka
>>487584507Off the top of my head, the worm girl, dragon pup, dog girl, phoenix, and imp say a similar line about thinking they are going to be killed or raped, but I believe there are more who have such a line when at low HP. I do recall thinking it mostly seems to be younger monsters who say it.
WE MUST HAVE JUSTICE
>>487583963>>487584138Lazaruses of the worlds will unite and save humanity.
>>487585993the other lazarus gets killed by angels in the trailer...
>>487586235You do know what happens to crucified martyrs after 3 days?
>>487587093they tell everyone to turn the other cheek?
>>486981836I really like this OP picture and how it lasted past bump limit despite those gigantic milkers and transparent clothes. You should strive to post more high quality images like this one.SUCK SUCK SUCK GLUG GLUG GLUG
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