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Novice of the Absolute Edition

PC trailer: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XuCfkgaaa08
PS5 trailer: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_wW4Fdh6zFM

>News:
Patch 6: https://baldursgate3.game/news/patch-6-now-live_108
Patch 5: https://baldursgate3.game/news/patch-5-now-live_99

>Wiki:
https://bg3.wiki

>Mods:
https://www.nexusmods.com/baldursgate3/

>FAQ:
>Q: How often should I long rest?
>A: Many companion and romance interactions occur when long resting. Some early lower priority camp scenes can also be missed if higher priority ones are queued. To advance companion quests or romances, make sure to long rest often.
>Q: Can I recruit Minthara without going down the evil path?
>A: If you knock her out in Act 1, yes. You do miss out on the sex scene, but otherwise the romance remains the same.
>Q: Underdark or Mountain Pass?
>A: Either, or both. It's recommended to clear both on higher difficulties for the experience and loot. Both connect to the same Act 2 map.
>Q: Is The Dark Urge essentially "Tav+"?
>A: Yes. You get additional content, BUT there are points where if you've chosen to resist the Urge and/or don't complete quests the "right" way, you'll have to pass additional checks to avoid losing companions.
>Q: Are there any consequences to consuming tadpoles?
>A: No, for the most part. However if you've consumed any tadpoles, there will later be a DC21 Wisdom check to reject the Astral-Touched Tadpole, which affects your appearance if consumed.
>Q: Should I enable Karmic Dice?
>A: Karmic Dice will avoid streaks of very low or very high rolls, both for you and the enemy. It is recommended to disable it if you're specializing.

>Polls:
>Romance: https://strawpoll.com/NMnQ5kJXYn6
>Race: https://strawpoll.com/kjn18WPzeyQ
>Class: https://strawpoll.com/eNg69DKKjnA
>Companions: https://strawpoll.com/bVg8o8l3VnY

OP pasta: https://rentry.org/bggpasta

Previous thread: >>486933845
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Let's see some closed beta leaks. Endings when?
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remember to make your cleric smile.
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The threads are getting slower and slower, we won't survive August. Let's agree to make this thread the last one.
>>487162076
>filter image MD5
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Nope I’ll make the threads just so I can attentionwhore!
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>>487162208
Oh namefag, you little rascal.
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Shadowmwah
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>>487162354
aint I a stinker
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>>487162748
Wrong general, Four.
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Jenevelle, the love of my life
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>>487162119
The threads are getting cuter and cuter, we will survive August, like we survived Avernus. Let's agree to share a pint at the Elfsong.
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>>487164061
Bex's cookie...
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>>487164061
Maybe once my noble quest is complete….
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What endings would piss off Whiters the most?
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I just want to say that humans are the superior race.
Even if other races can live longer, are prettier, stronger or have more magical potential: one common thing is they all fall under the humanoid category, as if they were created using humans as inspiration; which is why humans can breed and have offspring with multiple other races while other races themselves cannot.
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>>487164817
TPD ending
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>>487164817
Withers doesn't care one way or another but you can actually piss him off if you start shit at his epilogue party, which visibly upsets him more than any other action you could take.
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I do not like the way hirelings talks.
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>>487165373
I do not like the fact that the orc hireling is a tranny yet here we fucking are
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>>487165130
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iFhrlb4FtZQ
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Orin romance when?
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>>487167370
She looks fugly as f so no
Could at least have asked for a romance with a pretty npc instead
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>>487167370
after gort romance
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Oak Father preserve us all.
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>>487167454
They shrimply wouldn’t do either of them correctly and shouldn’t be allowed to.
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>>487167370
After Kagha romance
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Is the trials of tav mod worth playing?
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>>487167747
Most BG3 romances are awful, that's a cope.
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>>487167924
It’s not a cope because I didn’t bring up the other romances.
I didn’t like a single one.
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>>487168250
Me X (You) will fix this in Patch 7
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Is Bard OP in tabletop/any other adaptation of DnD, or is it just BG3's system + itemization that made it so cracked?
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>>487168574
Are you FUCKING kidding me
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>>487168574
>honor mode but not actually honor mode
please stop pandering to shitters
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>>487168574
>Custom Mode with Honor Mode mechanics
Fucking finally.
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>>487168990
>>487169018
the duality of man
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>>487168990
I'll play honor mode once their game stops being a buggy piece of shit
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>>487168372
What….What if our tavs put their bedrolls next to eachother?
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Wow, Patch 7 is literally nothing. Over 6 months of work for THIS?
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>>487168759
Are you in any way surprised? This is the most Larian, most realistic, most likely outcome for the whole thing.
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>Astarion now has idle animations at camp that aren't just him reading a book.
Nonono don't make him dumb.
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>>487168574
I love how they always fix bugs I've never heard of while shit people have bitched about since Day 1 goes untouched.
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>>487170416
When are they going to fix the sweat texture on Minthara’s balls in the grymforge?
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>>487168574
It's about time their secret Chinese overlords stepped in and made an example of the flea-bitten code monkeys left working on this abandoned project.
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>>487170416
Fixing the companions' pathing or unfinished quests would require actual work and larian clearly doesn't care about this game anymore
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>>487169661
They are deeply incompetent programmers. They couldn't even time it for the anniversary, for fuck's sake. They absolutely needed the gulf of another entire month on top of that for this shit.
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>>487168749
It's a little bit of both. A class that can baseline be both a skill monkey and a spellcaster is always going to be at least very good. Having an extra short rest is a resource multiplier. BG3 also inexplicably buffs College of Swords on top of that, which pushes it into cheesy S tier.
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>>487168749
The OP class in every edition of DnD can be traced to its target audience. For 5e, it's annoying theater kids, so it's the bard's game. Previous editions had OP wizards when insecure nerds were the target audience. The original game was all about the fighter because fantasy fans back then read Conan.
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>>487171007
anon a lot of the team has probably shifted over to the new project by now
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>>487171780
I know, and that's inexcusable. You don't leave your breakout hit to the third-worlder interns just because you're personally sick of it and just want to play with spaceships now. It's a betrayal of a large audience that gave them everything and an embarrassing lack of integrity.
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>>487161404
>Not even talking about older editions, but only in most campaigns I've played on the last ten years on many different locals: getting even a helmet, gauntlet or boot with +1 bonus to a saving throw on level 2 would be something unthinkable. And I almost didn't start getting magic items until after level 5, and only because they were the reward for certain hooks the party has been railroaded since level 1.
I agree that bg3 gives you more magic items than you'd get in tabletop, by a lot, but what you described is shocking. to think, at level 5 you'd only start getting magic items: by that time, you would be able to craft them. As an EK, a 5e spellcaster, you can craft anything you have money and time for. a simple +1 longsword is just an uncommon item. value 100-500 gold. After killing an ogre, you should be able to make 19 str gloves. minimum level for that is 3. just to give you some idea of the sort of loot you should expect. found loot should be better than what you make on your own using canon rules.
and you should be able to buy level 1 wands from the very start, this includes mirror image, magic missile, cure light wounds. a +1 bonus to saving throws at level 1 would be pretty crazy but some sort of magic item should be among the rewards for a level 2 quest.

if your dm is keeping you very light on magic items, it's probably deliberate. i did this myself when i was new to DM'ing: it's difficult to make encounters hard while also preventing a full party wipe. players and get greedy when one of them is getting powerful. they argue over treasure. gold is easy to split
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>>487172125
thats how capitalism works, anon. its not profitable to keep supporting a game aftera majority of the sales have been made and theres no plans for DLC. businesses will only give as much of a shit that they can afford and not an iota more.
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good afternoon, I like women who have strong jaws and pointy noses.
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Larian definitely doesn't care about the game. That's why we're on Patch 7 after nearly a year, and aren't getting charged for additional content.
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>>487172842
I wouldn't care if this game had been finished, but they ran away cheering without even doing the bare minimum of completing the product. This cannot be accepted or they'll just do it again when their scifi adventure has too many bugs or clipped questlines.
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>>487161650
first time playing since launch - i thought they fixed this? i'm in act 1 and i've only cleared up to the blighted village and shadowheart hasn't even told me she's a shar cultist yet, but somehow i've changed her whole life for the better (not even maxed approval).
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>>487168574
>Minthara will now react if you knock her out in Act I.
>Minthara does, in fact, now have something to say about Orin after you kill her.
We are SO back.
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>>487171584
what about 4e
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>>487173302
There's always this one redditor who HAS to worship his favorite CEO, hey tranny, we're still waiting for the Minthara patch, where is it?
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>>487173568
That's not a bug, it's a feature. Shadowheart was Too Mean for Red-I mean, beta testers.
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>>487173593
4e only had one class mechanically.
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>>487172125
You know who’s super at fault for this
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>>487173568
They added different greetings/dismissals based on approval, if that's what you're referring to. That line comes off as pretty awkward and premature if she hasn't shared much yet, I agree, but I can't tell if that's a bug.
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>>487174095
I was a fan of Swen's pathetic "N-nuh-uh it wasn't their fault we swear we love Hasbro dude"
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>>487174426
Vincke is a bad liar. Watching him cope about the upper city for 3 months straight was pretty funny, he's too honest for the industry.
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>game came out a year ago
when's the sequel?
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It's hard to get excited about the next game when early access will be 2-3 years off at the least, and then it'll be in EA for at least that many more years or so.
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>>487174729
Ask again in 3 years.
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How dishonest is using hirelings as long rest buff bots? Does using hirelings makes my honour mode run not count?
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>>487174615
His all-time best scummy move was admitting Act 3 sucks and changing the subject immediately when asked about unfinished quests.
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>trying to go after swen for being a liar
>meanwhile todd exists
hmm
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>>487174426
‘N-No we love sucking Hasbro cock’ -Swen Vinckle, the debutant of game design
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>>487174730
Don't forget that you'll need a quantum computer that hasn't even been developed yet to run the game, and your own server farm to store it.
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Someone's trying their hardest to fast forward BG3's reception to go from Skyrim/Fallout 3 in the past, to Skyrim/Fallout 3 now.
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>>487174730
It won't, BG3 was in EA for a while because of COVID, the zigger war and larian dabbling in tech that they didn't understand yet, next EA will last 2 years tops
>>487174921
>journalist: Yeah so many people found that act 3 was underwhelming compared to the rest of the game, I remember that people also complained about your last game's final act, care to explain why?
>Swen:w-w-well maybe we'll learn to make a better one down the line haha
>>487175069
>whataboutism
grow up
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>>487175341
No, someone is calling the game's support dogshit. That'd be me btw.
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If you're not going after the biggest liar todd you're just being dishonest when you claim you're persecuting swen for lying
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>>487175593
This is not a bethesda general, Todd hasn't directed a good game for decades, who gives a fuck about him?
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>>487175341
It was never Fallout 3, it's New Vegas. A masterpiece despite being a rushed, unfinished, buggy piece of shit. It just swapped around the values for NV's good writing and mediocre gameplay.
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>>487175069
There can be multiple liars in the industry, if you want to bitch about todd, several of his games have generals.
I frequently goon in these generals under different names!
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>>487173832
that makes sense kinda but she's still in her tsundere phase and is still a total cunt in basically every out-of-camp dialogue sequence.
>>487174329
i didn't notice the greetings/dismissals, but that sounds cool, will keep an ear out to it changing. but yea that line kinda blindsided me because it's super early in the narrative and she barely knows the PC yet.
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Will Halsin actually die if I refuse Orin's deal, or is she bluffing / tgere is some way to save him?
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should i go half-squid
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>>487176278
Who cares? Let her kill the rapist
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Did we ever find out why they abruptly trashed and rewrote the rest of the story? All the issues with the writing are from them randomly changing everything but doing an absolutely terrible job of purging remaining ties and hooks to the discarded stuff.
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>>487176279
Should you leave my general?
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>>487176417
i dont think there was ever anything concrete about it but feels to me like the conclusion to the tadpole/orpheus/emperor story wasn't fully cooked at the finish line and they decided to cut daisy because she had the least hard ties to the plot between the three. but being the least was still a lot, like the whole theme song of the game.
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>>487176865
are you lost? this is my general
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>>487176417
>game's code is a spaghetti mess
>tweaking something breaks 10 other things
>oh fuck Z-tin is invading ukraine and wants to draft our russian studio
>oh snap the xbox port is a mess, we'll have to trim the fat to make the port playable
>oh fuck people hate one of our major companion we have to rework him but we're already rewriting a major companion that wasn't even recruitable in the EA why did we even agree to make the gay bear and the drow recruitable? we have 5 months left before the release and we already delayed the game twice oh fuck oh fuck oh fuck
That's the gist of it
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>487177069
not cute
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>>487177069
lolizel is cute
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Hello frens, what's the consensus among the general on Gith Tavs? Is playing one worth it story-wise?
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>>487176417
The best guess we have is they ran out of dev time and just had to ship something.
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>>487171958
It's always good to see Astarion.
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>>487177087
And that's without mentioning COVID fucking with the mocap team, this game was cursed LMAO. No wonder they were too busy to tell John to put his pants on
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>>487177379
they're cute
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>>487177087
>Russia, Microsoft, Wyll, and Halsin ruined BG3
Sounds about right. God fucking damn it, though.

>"If you suddenly start ripping stuff out, the entire thing collapses."
As evidenced by the finished product. The original plan must have been even worse.
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>>487177379
no clue what the consensus is but why not just play laezel? gith are such a rare race that it feels hard to me to justify how one of them wound up in baldur's gate to get kidnapped by mindflayers. there are zero unaffiliated gith in the game if i recall - they're all either gith or gith'zerai.
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>>487177713
Because playing as an origin sucks and takes away from how they are as a character.
>>487177620
I disagree but regardless, that's not answering anything.
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>>487177379
You will be second fiddle to Lae'zel the entire time and enjoy scenes like Vlaakith completely ignoring you and addressing her exclusively.
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am i the only one that preferred early access wyll? he used to actually sound kind of like a chav british guy and he had just enough edge that the player couldn't be sure whether he was a good guy or a bad guy. the new wyll is so fucking vanilla to me, prince charming tier shit. i don't even believe that a character like that would make a deal with mizora in the first place.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x5zgUJW8MOU
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>>487177713
>why not just have one less companion and not get a unique dynamic with the racist zealot
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>>487177908
Well that's shit & defeats the purpose, nevermind that then. Red Dragon Sorcerer Gith sounded fun but not at the expense of being a narrative afterthought.
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>>487177879
>what's the consensus among the general on Gith Tavs?
the consensus is that they're cute
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>>487168574
>dissipating Gale's Necrotic Aura when it should dissipate
???

Are they nerfing the duergar suicide aura build?
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>>487178139
I've seen a lot of people express this opinion but I've seen just as many say they didn't like that Wyll either. Release Wyll honestly grew on me over time, but there's a lot about him that doesn't land right or make much sense.
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>>487174730
I did what I could.
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>>487177379
I played a gith tav and the only cool bits you’ll get are people in the creche talking to you differently.
The race is good for gameplay and that.
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>>487178278
It's why they don't let you play as a Cleric of Shar anymore, because you'd be even less of a character next to Shadowheart than anyone's character already is by default. They didn't want to cut the whole gith race option, but they also didn't want to fix it.
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>>487178276
yea, did i stutter? it creates problems like >>487177908 in addition to just not making sense, because (again), the player is canonically kidnapped from baldur's gate - there's a whole cinematic and everything.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wWHEw36gTwU
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..."identity"?
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>>487178632
Nope,>>487178529
I didn’t get a single Balduran interaction in game.
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>>487178632
I will not play as gay ass origin companions. No one is. Laezel is the least popular origin, fuck off.
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>>487171958
There's something off about Astarion. And I don't mean that he's unattractive, because he is very much handsome and everything, but there's something queer about him that scratches that part of my mind. Orin can't kidnap him for meta reasons, but I like to headcanon it's because he's just too weird to impersonate.
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>>487178347
I report blatantly unfinished and/or poorly implemented shit as bugs.
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>>487178721
Baldurian*
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>>487178347
Send it, pussy.
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>>487178812
I really like how she makes up fake githyanki words that have never been used before even outside of BG3 when impersonating Lae'zel. It's what I'd have done in her place, and I didn't catch it on my first run. What did tip me off was her knowing less about the Silver Sword than I do.
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>>487178812
> Orin can't kidnap him for meta reasons
Because vampire spawn kidnapped him first?
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>>487178632
>the player is canonically kidnapped from baldur's gate
Unless they're Gith or Drow. Then they were abducted elsewhere and they don't have the [Baldurian] tag.
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>>487178812
he's on the verge/beginning twink death
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>>487179037
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>>487179524
Or the Dark Urge. Honestly, the opening cinematic is more of a mood setter than an accurate depiction of what happens to your character and companions in the story. It just doesn't make any sense with what we're told in-game about anything or anyone who ends up on the ship.
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>>487178635
There is literally shapeshifting magic available from level 1. How you want to be referred to makes more sense than saying sex/gender since you can just turn your buff half orc guy into a tiny gnome bimbo the moment you cast your first spell (or use your preorder item or whatever).
You can think its about gender identity politics if that's what gets you hard/makes you mad though. No one can stop you from letting it impact every moment of your life if that's the only thing you want to think about.
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>>487173570
Holy shit, finally.
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>>487178852
Did they fix it?
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>>487179865
>if that's the only thing you want to think about.
It's the only thing the people pushing that stuff think about to be fair
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>>487178614
>It's why they don't let you play as a Cleric of Shar anymore
Yeah I do remember that being an option during EA. Ah well, I'll go with Drow Tav or Halfling Durge then.
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>>487180000
Holy quads
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>>487179865
I agree with your post but gender identity politics are obviously the actual reason it says that there, not because your character can shapeshift.
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>>487177069
How come people call her a frog as a joke but in the game she's jokingly referred to as a bat?
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>>487180323
>yellow as a toad and twice as ugly
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>>487180000
>It's the only thing the people pushing that stuff think about
quads of undeniable truth.
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>>487178635
No traps, please...
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>>487180000
I mean, it never needed to be brought up here. Are you pushing this, and is that why its the only thing you want to think about?

You can literally stop thinking about it and making links from everything to it, tenuous or otherwise at any time. Yet you haven't. You brought it here to talk about it, instead of bitching about missing crossplay or pregnant minthara or anything actually related to the game.
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>>487180323
It's the cute, upturned nose and big ears. She's also referred to as being toad-like, but I don't think gith are actually supposed to be frog people, anymore than they are bat people. D&D has two frog races, bullywugs and grippli.
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>>487180000
check'd
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>>487179995
Of course not. Won't even fix those awful quests in Act 3, the artist and fireworks. I wasn't even being cheeky about those like I was with the infernal engine metal from the Steel Watch boss.
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>>487180516
>Are you pushing this, and is that why its the only thing you want to think about?
I'm not even the guy that posted that picture, just telling it how it is. Larian added they/them reactivity to the game instead of working on literally anything else, I think it's ok to rightfully call this retarded. Maybe a lot of people don't want to see trans pandering in their video games?
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>just starting act 3
should i install the 'level cap removal' mod
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>>487177069
ugly frog
why did i say the same thing twice?
ugly
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>>487180891
I did this to Command Undead on Ansur so I do recommend it. Maybe not for playthrough 1.
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>>487180561
KWAB
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>>487180734
>They/them is trans pandering
Kek. Sure, if you believe that a bunch of trannys don't want to be referred to as she or her. Not wanting to be gendered is like the opposite of being a tranny.
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>>487180323
Bats are not yellow-green. Bats don't get Frog Leap. Bats are not an egg-laying species. Bats can't be princesses.
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>The kuo-toa that promised to build you an army will now support you in the final battle. Unless they all died in Act I.
I AM A GOD
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>>487181276
Ok tranny
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Unironically, would I break my oath as a white male OoD Paladin for wanting some Lolth-Sworn Drow pussy? This is important.
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>>487180323
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>>487181276
Remember I like they/them pronouns!
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>>487180323
they're literally space african elves.
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>>487181629
No. It did not break mine.
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>>487181629
also unironically, yes.
>Lolth-Sworn
lolth is evil as fuck and she's explicitly sworn to her, not just a random unaffiliated drow. conflict of interests.
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>>487181842
>african
You just know this retard is american.
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>>487181629
That depends on the morality of the pussy. In the case of Minthara, who is Lawful Good and has renounced Lolth, it would not be oathbreaking.
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I wish they'd completely overhaul the dogshit inventory management but that ship has sailed.
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Should I support gnome terrorists as Astarion?
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>>487181970
Calm down, blackie.
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>>487182464
See what I'm talking about? Literally sees niggers everywhere. Drows? Niggers. Dragons? Nigger metaphor. Gortash? Black.
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On old dnd all this travesty and open sexuality wouldn't be welcome.
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I want to slap Swen until he fixes the game.
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>>487173570
>>487179987
A toast, bothers. A little goes a long way here.
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Evil cinematic featuring impregnation by Astarion
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>>487182640
He is a turk take that back right the fuck now
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>>487182641
DND has always been a dogshit IP who was carried by talented DMs. Fuck hippies, fuck open sexualities, fuck Greenwood, fuck the freaks who love brothels, fuck the boomers still giving money to WOTC, fuck Swen for making BG3 instead of DOS3 and fuck every single one of you DNDorks. God you're cringe.
>>487182979
Apologies.
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>>487182656
I want him to lie to me some more.
>"The Emperor was always the twist."
>character design appears in the artbook as a stock mind flayer design exploration
>Daisy has her own bit there
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>>487183053
All is forgiven
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>>487183182
:D
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>>487183315
THE EDICT OF BANE
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More evil options for origins! Threaten companions to please me or I blow up as Gale. Making vampire slaves as Astarion. Becoming the grand duke as Wyll. Sharran orgies for Shadowheart. Eating souls as Karlach.
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>>487183406
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pregnant wyll
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>>487183407
Least cucked origin enjoyer
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>>487183315
>>487183569
Beautiful picture Beautiful boy
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>>487181358
kino
how are you supposed to find the kuo-toa anyway? the one time i got there i followed a guide and had to do so pretty closely
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>>487183839
I found them my first time by following the auntie ethel quest marker as where her dungeon spits you out is right under it.
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>>487183812
Archduke Sextash is the true hero of baldur's gate.
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gort x orin
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>>487183614
was the funniest thing this general conjured
the blade does not use protection
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>>487182834
A little button mashing minigame to go along with it.
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>>487184765
>was the funniest thing this general conjured
It didn't, that's a nexus mod that was first reposted on /vrpg/ and /v/. /bgg/ doesn't make good OCs aside of some artfags here and there
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>>487184989
My mistake lord of autism. I shall do better in the future.
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>>487068604
shart cut my barbarian mc's hair, just before getting to the city
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Fujoshi Astarion fans left! Only straight sisters are still here.
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>>487185218
Is this Archie of Archie comics fame?
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which class would fit my high half-elf tav?
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>>487185284
lol

>>487185351
looks like a slut so ____bard
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>>487185123
Thanks redditbro, very cool.
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>>487185250
I'm secretly a fujoshi if that counts
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>>487185351
Prostitute
>>487185250
Stop indulging trannies
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>>487183839
The area you reach theirs from is really irritating but if you take the time to actually look at it you'll see places to jump across a chasm.
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sebastian x nocturne
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shadowheart x [...] x Tav
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>>487185862
Minthara
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Speaking of Shadowheart wasn't she supposed to get more lesbian content or something? What happened? Was her writer lying?
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I just wanna say, I played my first run on explorer as a rogue with +3 dex/cha and some cha skills proficiency/expertise, while pressing SPACE to skip every dialogue (but I still understand some shit since glancing for keywords and speedreading is a thing), just following map markers on going on random unexplored directions, and choosing any random option unless there's an ability check involved, in which I always chose it, and if multiple I always chose the one I saw the highest bonus to me. Suffice to say, it was a blast. Never really cared to talk with companions except when exclamation marks.
On my second playthrough I did something similar, except on tactician. Was still fun.
Now I've decided to start another run, this time without skipping all the yapping, but it been hard. I want to see the dialogue but I also want for just make it go aways since i already know the outcomes.
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>bearded gith
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>>487186125
>filename
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Lae'zel is githyanking on my penis right now.
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>>487186125
He unironically looks better with a beard.
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>>487186589
They fucked up Ketheric's timeline so he could keep his beard but Cazador absolutely had to lose his because ???
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>>487186951
Because fuck you
they do that alot btw
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>>487186951
dnd lore is stupid and they stopped caring midway through
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>>487186951
because his beard was tickling when he bit someone
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>i am the one that's been protecting you
>i am the one who came to you in your dream.
>help me.
lae'zel was right about everything, wasn't she
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>>487186951
Maybe they thought it's important for Cazador to essentially be a member of the same race as Astarion?
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>>487187612
Chinese?
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>>487187612
Gay?
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>>487186951
>>487186589
Aren't he is pure elf and not available to grow beard?
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>>487187254
give me one good reason not to murder this mindflayer
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>>487187254
Lae'zel is always right she has never lied to the player or did anything wrong
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Good evening /bgg/
Waifus, Husbandos
Love & Harmony
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>>487188516
Irrefutable.
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>>487188547
I want to grab her by her space buns and do stuff to her face and mouth
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>>487188547
why does everyone in this image look like an offbrand chinese knock off of themselves?
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>>487188247
You still don't trust me? After all we've been through? Remember - I have been your salvation from the very beginning. Your knight in shining armour. I freed you from the nautiloid, prevented you from crashing to your death. I have protected you ever since - at no small cost to myself. I came to you as a leader, but I did not shy away from showing you vulnerability. I needed you as much as you needed me. I was not above recognising this. When you discovered my true identity, I did not flinch from truth - I never lied to you, not once. I am just like you. We have the same enemy, the same story. I encouraged you to fulfil your potential, all while protecting you from harm. And when you saw what I truly am - you did not reject me. You enjoyed me. Now I ask you for the last time to trust me. Release the Netherstones to me.
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>>487188802
LMAO NO BOZO
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>>487178529
Thinking about it now, they clearly listened when the playerbase said the endings for evil Durges felt like shit, and they're focusing on that for patch 7. Was this not a big enough oversight to them to warrant some kind of change? I know Gith aren't exactly a favorite pick for players but this doesn't help the matter.
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>>487188689
Rude!

>>487188720
It's because what tencent schizo has been babbling about finally became true: Swen allowed China to invade the Sword Coast.
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>>487189178
dark urge is the only origin that is popular
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>>487188247
you get a GAME OVER if he dies
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Respeccing once again back from Paladin to Fighter (Dueling). Gotta stick with my guns. Lot of excess Feats with this class though that it ends up being an ASI dump.
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>>487189178
Yeah and they aren’t gonna do it because they’re done.
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ORI_Astarion_Event_BlackMassAftermathHadSexAsEquals
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>>487189605
level 9 and haven't taken an ASI as fighter yet, so many good feats
>alert
>great weapon master
>heavy armor master
polearm master looks good too, i'd take that before an ASI
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You know, I didn't care for you when we first met. But I do now. Being with you is about more than lust or manipulating you into a tactical alliance. I love you. I love this. And I want it all.
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is orpheus right about this
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>>487190076
Thanks schizo
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>>487190413
Orpheus sees the bigger picture
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Oh now look, you've scared off the little snack.
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how much difference does it make with NPC interactions if i eat the special tadpole?

>ghaik trying to convince me that illithids are the superior evolutionary creature
>"i will evolve you. there will be... physical alterations"
yeah like losing my soul and turning into a mindless thrall
...then again, that illithid in the underdark seemed to have free will. maybe you can
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Massaging Astarion's prostate until his twitching member erupts with blood like the Hawaiian Punch fountain in Mr. Deeds
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honour mode zaith'isk. got only 2 inspirations
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>>487191175
Why would you even enter that room on honour mode?
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>>487191235
i was able to do it, and it didn't even take an inspiration.
bring a bard, a cleric, an elixir of heroism and put on some saving throw equipment. should be fine
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>>487191060
I wish I could do that.
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>>487191384
Damn.
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>>487161650
I will never forgive them for not letting me keep her as a sex pet
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>>487191532
I don't know if I liked her EA hair better than this but it definitely had a vibe I like too.
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>>487191532
My queen with her piss yellow hair…
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>>487191446
that said, i waited to enter it until i had a full four inspirations. i was lucky, and i think two would be the minimum i'd try with
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so why does orpheus hate vlaakith
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>Just got declared a heretic by vlaakith
>immediately become a proselyte of Orpheus
>she'd give her life for him after glimpsing him once
>the very thought of her disgusts him, if he thinks about her at all
are all gith like this or is frog just retarded
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>>487193038
she a hoe
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>it's his turn
Astarion for president, 1492 DR
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>>487164817
Keeping the brain alive. He doesn't care who kills it but his point in intervening was to stop the three stooge's plans and if you just co-opt them and do them in your name then he's not getting what he wants.

>>487168574
>honor mode improvements available in custom difficulty
Ah, something we have talked about. This means you get all of the difficulty and fun of honor mode, but with being able to save/load normally so you can try different story branches or conversation choices. Many people can already have the self control required to not savecum, so being able to save/load is a good thing. Very nice change.

>new Minthara lines
based

>>487168990
It's not pandering to shitters. Honor mode and custom difficulty can now be the exact same difficulty in terms of gameplay, and an adult can stop themslevves from savescumming, meaning all this does is give people with self control the option to see different story branches or continue a save file into a different direction. There have been a bunch of times where I've wanted to try a dialogue choice or see an option play out but I had to start an entire new 100+ playthrough in order to do some minor thing. This is a good thing. If you're afraid that it's going to let people savescum in honor mode, then that's a user issue.

>>487174730
It'll be a lot faster because they have 7 studios now.

>>487178139
Early access Wyll, Gale, and Shart were all better. In all three cases, they changed them to be friendlier towards the player and defer to the player by reducing their own goals and personalities, so that the player is not confronted or made to feel bad.

>>487179285
Yeah, but don't forget that you can wear the adamantine helmet with the reaper's embrace so you have your cake and eat it too.
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>>487195628
Shut the fuck up faggot
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>>487195873
They have banter for a scenario that isn't possible without modding?
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>>487196052
It's just multiplayer.
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>>487099668
>>I would condemn all of Faerun to death to save my daughter's life
his daughter:
>by killing my father, you set him free. thank you
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>>487195936
Subtley I’m forcing him to post less and make one big giant post to get it all out of his SIStem
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>>487196264
yep average woman moment
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>>487196178
Oh, huh. I wonder what the chairs are for then.
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Every ten words I type sends an alert to my vibrating buttplug that I have nicknamed the droweger.
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holy shit orin is hot
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>>487190413
There are some potential spoilers in the answer to that question but the short answer is yes:

Yes, and it's the explanation behind why the narrator essentially misinforms you here. At this stage, Orpheus's plan is to simply kill you and take care of the brain himself. Because at this stage, the brain is just a brain with a crown on it. But this is earlier in the game than when you get to free him yourself, and at that stage of the game, the crown has been on it long enough for it to transform into a "netherbrain", or brain infused and mutated by netherese magic. So the situation changes. Before he could kill you and take care of it himself, but now it's too powerful for that and you need to assemble a team to accomplish the task. So he sees the bigger picture and doesn't kill you anymore. But he might have killed you at the point the narrator says this.

>>487191175
Don't forget that to cure the zaithisk debuffs, you can just eat a tadpole with that character

>>487193038
Vlaakith trapped him in a box because she wanted his mutated/genetic power for herself. She's also ruling the empire instead of his rightful bloodline, since Gith was his mom and Vlaakith lied to the gith people to become queen.

>>487196264
She's right. A chosen of shar/chosen of myrkul who is murdering thousands of people should indeed be put down so he can't harm anyone else. A coincidental blood relation doesn't absolve someone of crimes.
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>>487196313
lmao
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holy shit astarion is hot
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>>487197107
OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOH IM BUSTING
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>>487197809
You sure are typing out alot of words tonight, you should be careful, you may fry your dopamine receptors with all this cumming Mintharafag.
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Larian why does it hurt when I PEE what did you DO to my code

I KNOW this isn't sex related and I haven't done anything weird in general. Stop breaking me! It's like peeing out razor blades WHY
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>>487197809
I don’t know if you know this but there’s this tranny that keeps pretending to be you
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>>487198223
It keeps writing these long ass posts that no one reads too
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>>487198345
Strange. We must monitor this development.
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>oh hey it's you, remember me? we tried to kidnap your friend
>here's the deal
>break in to the dwelling of one of the most powerful beings in the city
>steal his captives and/or kill him
>do that. or we'll murder you right here right now
is this the power of female leadership
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>>487173604
So many people started calling them Liarian for a reason
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it's a dragonborn
this is the first time i've seen one in the game
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>>487200159
They're just excited for the space game.
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>>487200917
That's my wife!
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>>487200917
>want a spear? you look like you know how to handle a spear
>back a gain? need a dagger? arrows? a spear?
she likes spears
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>>487200917
she’s the best
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>>487201935
she's very cute
>>487201101
you're one lucky dragonborn. she's like a ray of sunshine compared to the eternally sulking shadowheart
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>>487199124
lol i felt like most """negotiations""" played out like that.
>do what i say exactly the way i said it RIGHT NOW or we have to fight to the death and you're the bad guy
makes me want to refuse to comply out of spite most of the time.
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>>487202262
I have never once complied with Nettie. X runs later she dies in Halsin’s side sex room.
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>>487199124
>>do that. or we'll murder you right here right now
>and then jobs immediately
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>>487200917
and they wrote it like it was a gnome/halfling, just to be extra insulting.
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why is the kid i told to fuck off in my camp
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>>487202726
The pied piper is literally in the right of this photo
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>>487202262
But in the example you posted she's right, given what you know about mindflayers. Immediately euthanizing an infected person is indeed the most logical course of action. The fact that she lets you go at all is testament to her lenient nature.

>>487202382
She's only hostile if you're dodgy and refuse to answer questions. Which is stupid of a person to do anyway, for the same reason you don't lie to your irl doctor. There is no reason to withhold information from someone who says they know a bit about tadpoles, and only serves to make you look suspicious. Which, combined with the fact that immediately euthanizing infected persons being the most logical course of action to begin, justified her actions.

Characters are supposed to act against you if it's logical for them to do so. That's good writing.
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>>487203071
Do not speak to me about Nettie Nigger
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>>487203208
Sorry I didn’t punctuate right
Do not speak to me, about Nettie, you Double NIGGER.
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>>487203071
you wouldnt know good writing even if it came over and shit in your stew.
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Halsin’s cummies.
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>>487203071
>if it's logical for them to do so
what part of engaging an adventurer that's obviously more experienced in combat and has three friends waiting outside of the door is logical? she tells you just moments before that the infected drow on the table was extremely durable and difficult to take down even for her master, halsin. surely she had more options than charging you in a frothing bloodrage?
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>>487203071
Still attentionwhoring after all this time…
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>>487202726
Because the game needs a scapegoat for orin to kidnap. Though, i dont know what happens if you kill yenna and none of orins party targets are alive and in camp
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>>487203071
How do you feel about your imposter God Emperor Mintharafag?
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>>487202726
because the only choices in the game are illusions.
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>>487204020
>>487203549
Oops sorry meant to ask the real Mintharafag
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>watch some meme yt strat
>literally picks up Kagha and then fast travels away from the grove to kill her
lmfao
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>>487173570
What will she say?
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>>487203727
She doesn't do that. She uses a poison and masks it as helping you. You would have passed away from poison without knowing what happened if things went according to plan. She only fights you in combat if you pass a perception check, and by that point she's already been caught trying to kill you. She did everything logically up to that point, and you only ruin the plan with a perception check, which she can't control.

The thing about this scene is that you should be killed, and the person who tries is doing the right thing, but lots of players don't like that because it's ME, MEEE, so the character is badwrongstupid. From an objective standpoint, Nettie is right.
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>>487191235
Literally just be a gnome (the master race) for advantage on all of the important saving throws in the game
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From an objective standpoint, Hitler is right.
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>>487204439
>From an objective standpoint, Nettie is right.
she dooms everyone.
>nettie kills tav
>the prism stays in the grove
>minthara extracts the grove's location from the adventurer by torture
>her warband overwhelms the zevlor's feeble resistance
>she find the prism, delivers it to the absolute, and the dead three rule Faerun
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which of the dead three would laezel worship
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>>487204764
BASED?
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>>487202726
halsin lured him to the camp
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>>487205018
you know which one
i don’t even wanna say it.
>>487205048
lured is such a dirty word, coerced is better.
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>>487204439
my hangup is that she immediately engages the PC in combat - alone! the conversation goes:
>PC: No. I won't take something from a woman I can't trust.
>Nettie: You don't understand - you MUST.
>PC: No! I won't die!
>Nettie: *Attacks*
she doesn't call for help, she doesn't opt to have you followed, nothing. just zero to 100 "i have to honor duel this adventurer RIGHT NOW". even if the jig was up and battle was inevitable after the perception check, as you're implying, the conversation never moves to "sorry i tried to kill you, please spare me" she just 100% thinks she can and should take you on.
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Astarion just ejaculated all over my face.
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>>487204851
Already covered that here >>487203071. "Given what you know about mindflayers". You being immune to the tadpole because of netherese meddling and an ancient artifact are way outside of what she could possibly know. Given what you know about mindflayers, she acts completely logically, and it's entirely correct for someone to try to euthanize an infected person. You being the protagonist with plot armor and a speshul tadpole and a speshul artifact is completely outside of her possibility to know. This is the difference between a character acting logically given what they know (what we said) vs a player being aware of things that a character can't possibly know and holding them to that standard, which doesn't make sense to do.

Objectively, Nettie acted correctly. You should always euthanize minflayers.
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Minthara just ejaculated all over my face
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>>487205380
Mintharafag are you phoneposting???
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>Pommel Strike
>Lacerate
>Action Surge
>Main Hand Attack
What a WARRIOR
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>nettie apologists in this very thread
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>>487161650
What hairstyle is this? It's very cute!
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>>487205635
Marcello pick it up now
I will not hesitate to direct my autistic fury back at you.
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Lae'zel posters are so fucking retarded
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>>487205304
faggot keep your autism contained to 1 general.
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>>487206065
What are the generals he’s usually in anyway?
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>>487205794
"Carrion feathers".
It's very pretty.
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I like having unprotected sex with male drow
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>>487206607
What position?
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>>487206753
Typically mating press,you can really feel how deep they are when your ankles are behind your ears.
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>>487206267
>>487202024
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>>487206753
you really shouldn’t engage with shitposters you know.
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>follow a trail of dead ti*flings
>find wulbren
>he is making some sort of huge bomb
>"i'm part of The ResistanceTM now, together with the Harpers and you"
>mfw
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>>487206951
Kek while I am aware he is the big bad seranafag that has been here for TEN YEARS
I'd like to know the other generals
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>>487206267
/fog/
/stag/
/tesg/
You can see the pattern & poor judgement here.
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>>487205048
>him
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>>487207103
Thanks anon I really appreciate what you've done for me
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>>487207297
anytime, sweetcheeks
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>>487206992
but I am one
captcha: ASSG8
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>>487207467
haha me too lmao
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>>487207525
nice work, keep it up. which companion would you cum inside of?
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>>487207746
Gortash
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>>487190076
I already apologized. What more do you want?
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If you could kill one anon from /bgg/, who would it be?
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>>487207049
>bro just smuggle this huge bomb into the city bro blow up the police factory
>it's for The ResistanceTM bro
>the harpers back me, i'm on The Right Side Of History! We're fighting tyrants!
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>>487207810
Only the most resilient of cockroaches
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>>487161650
Any good coomer mods to sex all adult npcs ?
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>>487207774
hmmmm ok
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>>487208090
https://www.nexusmods.com/baldursgate3/mods/5285
Required
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>>487208090
No, the only one that popped up turned out to be a patreon scam
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>>487208090
It's always about sex with you "people."
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>>487207810
myself
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>>487204349
How do you do that?
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>>487208301
what do you mean "about"???
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>>487203383
Don't use the n-word here. We treat each other with respect here.
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>>487208301
its a sex game with combat mechanics
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>>487208774
>we
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>>487208774
I've never respected any of you. Your fleas on a lion.
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>>487206467
I think at last, we understand one another, Mintharafag.
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>>487209147
My flea is right where I left him.
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did this mf just call me a cuck
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>>487209787
Yeah, and? what're you gonna do about it, cuck?
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>>487209787
Fitting that Evil Dammon predicted Dammon's VA being outed as a chud. I wonder of Larian has wasted time and resources on redubbing his lines.
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>game crashes
>every one of my saves retroactively has a second traveller's chest forced into the camp
>Send to Camp sends everything to the 2nd chest
>Resting and quests/conversation items only ever checks the first chest
it would hurt less if they just bricked the save altogether.
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>>487210007
lmao what does that mean "outed as a chud"
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>>487211493
he doesn't like the tomato in the LGBT
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>>487211834
nobody likes the tomato
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I just have a few questions. Why do the tiefling "refugees," supposedly a "peaceful" group with the "right" to seek shelter in a sacred grove, have several armed guards ready to imprison outsiders on trumped-up charges? Why do they protect their own gang of child thieves, using their age as an excuse? Why do they count amongst them a blacksmith who forges weapons of war, no doubt to arm their so-called "noncombatants"? Why do they pretend to be "harmless" even though they are devilkin and wield infernal powers?
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>>487211834
He is a zogbot so not a chud.
Based Astarion VA (even though he is a pedo groomer)
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>>487212554
t. chud
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>>487212197
i loathe the fucking tomato
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>>487211493
spoke against the tribe
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>>487212554
>Why do they pretend to be "harmless" even though they are devilkin and wield infernal powers?
Its so funny to me the Half-thing trader ridiculous you for saying the Tieflings have infernal powers, even though they can literary see in the dark, summon fire from their hands, infuse their weapons with fire, summon magical darkness and other such shenanigans
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>welcome to the circus!
>we just need to check if you're a vicious murderer haha just a formality
>oh shit you're actually a vicious murderer oh shit oh fuck
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I have never fed Karlach a soul coin
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>>487214124
Neither have I.
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>>487213593
I always found that hypocritical too.
I mean, they keep saying they are always as harmless as human but game statistcs say otherwise.
And all racial features and traits human have can be perfectly justified and don't look weird, because it all comes down to the drive of trying to survive and live in a world full of "superior" creatures.
Thieflings should at least compare themselves to elves, which even an inoffensive and peaceful one can fuck you up.
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>male voice
is this an actual tranny
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>>487214314
Yes but I actually like this character because she is funny.
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>>487214314
drag queen
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>>487213593
Alfira and Bex are capable of all of these things?
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>>487214678
All of them can at least see in the dark, just travel at night
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>>487214314
I understand that Larian is incompetent, but I still wish I could dress up my undead minions like that.
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>>487214314
voiced by a drag queen tranny named meatball
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>shart hates clowns
is there anything she doesn't hate
what a fucking killjoy
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>>487215547
>is there anything she doesn't hate
well...
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>>487215547
>send shadowheart up
>she hates it
>astarion approves
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Kinda tempted to kill Mystra and cause another spellplague desu
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>>487215547
She doesnt hate Halsin
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never noticed before but the Gith armor is kinda hot. also Gith Tavs not starting with basic Gith armor is gay as fuck.
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>>487215547
Well she wants to live a quiet, boring life.
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I like clowns. Gotta apprieciate how hard they work, and the sheer determination of how they can embrace the cringe without killing themselves.
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>>487214124
>>487214227
your loss
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>>487216642
the clown eventually becomes really sad and wants to kill themselves.
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Ended up working perfectly fine. All we needed to do was find her.

Swen: 1
Doubter Anons: 0
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>>487215830
Who doesn't hate him?
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is this good?
the description is bugged, right? it's 1d8 plus weapon plus bonuses like str, right?
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>>487217095
no its terrible
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>>487217095
lol
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She's so cool.
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i miss them...
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I'm so goon.
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Is the Dream Guardian actually The Emperor? Or did he do that just for the sex scene? I'm kinda slow, please understand.
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>>487217845
No you don't
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>>487217996
Is it true she wears neither pants nor underwear?
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Paladin, Bard, or Rogue for Dark Urge playthrough?
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would you?
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>>487219584
I love Mother Nature.
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>>487219584
do you think it glows... down there?
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>>487218021
Yes, you got catfished
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>what does lae'zel most desire
uh... recognition? glory? the feeling of victory and success?
...so, attention?

mfw i got all of the questions wrong
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why are women attracted to astarion? he looks so gay
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how do anons play shortstack characters? im struggling to enjoy halfling but they look goofy as shit in every cutscene that isn't a closeup and even the dialogue camera has people looking at you like picrelated during conversations:
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>>487219812
im okay with it
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>>487220350
>women
It's almost entirely actual unironic faggots and the occasional sprinkling of durge players (trannies)
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>>487218425
She wears Minthy's pearls
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>>487220506
Based, people are mad at him because he didnt reveal himself as a brain eating monster after you got abducted and infected by said brain eating monsters
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>>487220827
oh you were talking about the emperor.
lmao no
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>>487220080
>to annoy shadowheart
what lmao
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>I take no pleasure in his passing
Yeah you just sat on his throne reveling in joy about killing him
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i paid five thousand gold for this statue
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I think racism is something retarded in real life since everything can be explained by genetic variation and mutations, among other things.
But Baldur's Gate 3 really made me feel racist, against other races. Fuck Thieflings, rape Elves, behead Aasimar, mincemeat Devils. Screw everyone.
No other game has made me feel like such a human supremacist before.
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>>487221867
Based
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>>487221867
Sounds like the retard is you
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okay. So we raid the grove, he has sex with Minthara, and then when we wake up in the morning and start talking about how to go to moonrise, he just chooses the option to oppose her and start combat.

While I do enjoy not knowing what will happen next, since that keeps things fresh after so many playthroughs, some things are kind of silly.

But this does give me an opportunity: I can test whether knocking her out in camp will allow her to be recruited in act 2, since we know knocking her out at the grove and the fort both work.
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>>487222020
But anon is right. Only those on a power trip need innate magical abilities, and only thiefs need to see in the dark.
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>>487222118
Tell him to stop playing like a complete moron and take it at least a little bit seriously
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>go to shop
>oh he actually has something i want (elixir of vigilance and elixir of cloud giant strength)
>go to camp, bring along the companion specc'd for trading
>those potions are gone now
did someone buy them while i was gone?
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>>487222184
Q: what do you call a thread with two racist incels?
A: this one
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>im okay with it
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>>487222943
Make it three racist incels.
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>>487222943
there's at least four of us
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>>487223236
Wronge. At least five.
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>>487223364
six?!
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>literally bragging about being a racist piece of shit
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>>487223469
Yes!
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Our camp is full of dead bodies, chests we were using to store dead bodies, dead tieflings from the goblin party, and now a whole group of new dead bodies after the fight with the goblins.
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>>487222921
Restocks are forced the moment you level up. So if you respec'd + levelled up in camp, then all the shops would've restocked.

But yes, this also means that if you respec + level up 11 times, you will force 11 restocks. This is a commonly abused mechanic.
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>>487223469
reddit
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>>487223934
oh neat. yeah, i did level up.
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Holy shit he shames you for it too lmao
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>>487224250
Speaking of ugly Tavs
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>>487223734
Congrats nigger
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>>487224510
just stfu
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>>487224568
no
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>>487224479
astral tadpole makes a nigger look straight out of conan
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>>487223439
seven!
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Astarion and Gale are males and happen to be the most poplar origins, Wyll happens to be male but didn't seem to catch the eye of gamers, why?
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>>487224479
Nobody was speaking of ugly Tavs
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>>487224841
the topic is always up for conversation when you start posting ugly
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>>487224832
He's boring
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It's a travesty how we don't have any dwarf companions, and the fact that we only have a single druegar and gold dwarf hireling. Can't make my dream team.
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Well I didnt
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inb4 this one is on ao3 already
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>>487225602
Do they find this garbage funny in Belgium?
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The fuck does that even mean
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>>487225724
are fujos some unique belgian phenomenon? no, sadly
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>>487225451
create an ugly tav?
no you did
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who's got the best brothel twins scene?
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>>487226096
kill yourself
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>when see gives you this look
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>>487226228
When she give you this look
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>>487225923
The inspiration behind the character is that she is Orins hotter, more evil sister.
But dont fret, wont be seeing much of her face anymore lol
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I still think the emperor was a bitch for siding with the elder brain the moment we decided to free orpheus.
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I still think that the emperor was a terrible character that brought nothing to the story
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>>487226635
>ghaik reveals his true nature
you're a retard if you think he would act otherwise
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Kill the Emperor when he's first revealed and letting the honor guard free Orpheus should be another hidden ending like the act 2 Jihad Gale ending.
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>>487226635
Orpheus was going to withdraw his protection and attack him anyway
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>>487226630
>hotter
why?
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>>487227101
Because she has this elaborate fake up routine and haircut and wears a revealing outfit showing her sexy ass body so I think its kind of a funny idea it turns out she has a hotter, more evil and even crazier sister.
Its like a Season 2 addition in a popular sitcom.
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>>487227728
Yeah i realized after
Why ya done?
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>>487227878
what?
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>>487227526
The more I replay the game and the more I realize that literally all of my issues are in Act 3
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>twins don't even admit minthara exists
so the only woman who can double team the twins with you is shadowheart?
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Noone cared who I was until I put on the mask

>>487227998
Act 2 is worse than Act 3
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quit talking about that garbage holy fuck
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>>487226378
Unfortunately for you, there's no mods for BG3 that lets her dom your character and put them in bondage & collars like you have Serana do your Skyrim character, freak.
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>>487228098
The only futa queen
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>>487228175
Your characters look like trannies and you fucked a mindflayer, you obviously shouldn't be listened to.
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What's a good party template if I plan to run full 12 levels of lore bard in honour mode? I don't plan to use hireling clerics etc to buff but I can consider that if needed.
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Cinema

>>487226924
It would be awesome. He kills your party, but instead of a regular game over, there's a cutscene of him heroically going on to defeat the brain himself, and you actually get a victory screen lol
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>>487228448
I would NEVER let Minthy die in one of my games.
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Dont threaten me with a good time

>>487228375
I didnt fuck him

>>487228448
They should have just made his psionic resistance and aura, him being able to apply it at will fucks with the story
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Does Hunger of Hadar triggers Ring of Mental Inhibition?
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>>487228713
If they fail their save then yes
Even jumping with the bonespike boots from act 3 triggered it for me
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>>487228671
An…imposter Mintharafag…could there be one amogus?
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We barely even started and she is done with this shit already

>>487228713
Its a spell that triggers a saving throw so I dont see a reason why it wouldnt, although I am not sure it will apply the debuff every turn
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The gameplayfag is talking to himself again, and of course the ugly gnome schizo joined in.
God what a shithole.
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>fade to black
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Someone spoonfeed me patch 7
is it more tiny romance and ending tweaks no one cares about?
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>>487229149
Yes
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>>487229134
Thats his gnome? I kinda just assumed it was a random dude’s
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>>487229149
https://store.steampowered.com/news/app/1086940/view/4366886565633587231?l=english
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what mod do you fags use to hide the buttons at the bottom left during screenshots?
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>>487229306
That's just the controller UI
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>>487229373
I'm talking about the buttons like on the bottom of this shot
>>487229005
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>>487229282
I’m not clicking on links from you ever again, last time it was transthara
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>>487229306
Just press F10. It hides all hud elements, and you can even move and play that way if you're recording a video.
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voss is so desperate
it's pathetic
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>>487229546
Desperation is a bad look on everyone, even him.
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>>487229546
Less ugly than your character
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>>487229282
>promises magic communism
>delivers magic anarcho capitalism
What was his problem?
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>>487229520
thanks

>>487229282
thanks
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If I were a gnome I would just off myself
Look at this thing

>>487229306
Under controls "show/hide UI" its at the very bottom
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Woah worshipping a good God really payed off for this guy, truly a symbiotic relationship between Gods and worshipers
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what's the worst that could happen if i give raphael the crown
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At last, peace.
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>>487231894
Finally..
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>>487229806
not sure how I missed that after nearly a year but thanks chief
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there are still bhaalspawn after bg1/bg2?
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>gith: based
>glasses: cringe
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what the hell is this
150 damage, ignores immunity?
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>>487233117
because you can move out of the aoe and avoid it entirely?
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>>487232818
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>>487232780
No but they wanted to piggy ride the Baldurs Gate IP so yes

>>487233117
Larian doesnt know how to design combat so they just give enemies an ability to deal over 9000 damage and call it a day

>>487233260
turn order
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he seems friendly
and... is he really explaining his entire master plan, including fabricating the absolute, following up with "you are soon to witness the people of baldur's gate granting me complete control of them, all out of fear of the absolute", in the middle of a gathering of the entire city's patriarchs?

i'm not sure if he's crazy or amazing
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>>487233567
>turn order
it gives you 2 full turns to run away and the radius isn't even big
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>>487233946
in the description, it says "instantly detonates". explain yourself
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>>487232818
don't you worry your pretty little head, my man. I'm not gonna spam my garbage taste here.
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>>487234160
Have you played the game, retard?
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>>487234280
>explain yourself
>y-you're a retard
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>>487234160
>if it dies
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>>487233946
it explodes on its next turn or when it reaches 0hp
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communist RAT
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The experiment is set. Minthara is knocked out after making her hostile in camp. We will wait until act 2 to discover whether she is recruitable. Most people knock her out the usual way, or side with her, I don't see much info on the internet about siding with her halfway and then randomly attacking her in camp, so this is good to test.

My hypothesis is that it will work. After the changes they made in patch 6 to allow her to be recruited by knocking her out normally, this will probably work.

The only downside is that this playthrough is 4 people so it's going to be really slow to actually get to act 2.

>>487233567
Yes there were bhaalspawn alive at the end of bg2 in bg2 actually. A few in fact, I can name 3 off the top of my head.

And the watcher detonation has a 1 turn countdown.

>>487234160
When it gets low, it begins the self detonation sequence, which is 1 turns. If you kill it during this countdown, it explodes upon death. Meaning you can manipulate when it explodes, or run away.
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>>487234690
pretty sure it takes 3 turns total, including the failsafe start and the detonation
so it spends 2 turns doung nothing before exploding
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>>487233946
No it doesnt lmao
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>>487235207
Yes it does rofl
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>>487235182
Is this the watcher self detonation in the foundry, or something else?
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>>487235207
There is a 1 turn countdown, where you can either move away or make it explode early by finishing it off. Here is a video of it happening, timestamped. You are mistaken.


https://youtu.be/JQAVA1DfdzY?t=680
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>>487235460
>>487235328
I dont need to watch a video, I know that they explode on their next turn
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>>487230660
He'll take over the Hells and he won't stop there he'll go for other worlds..

It's funnier just to steal the hammer and kill him in his own House of Hope.
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>>487235596
>they give you 2 turn
>no they don't
womp womp
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>Lower city
>Venture Forth?
will i be able to finish the quests in this region later? for example finding the clown body parts
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>>487235740
Play the game

>>487236087
Yes you can return to Rivington at any time, in fact its a free full heal if you ever need one
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>my reaction when Mintharafag posts
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>>487235914
Ew
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>>487236694
I would add your tavs to my harem…but they’re ugly.
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>>487236087
Jaheira leaves if you don't go to the harper hideout first
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>legendary shortsword
>legendary greatsword(s)
>no legendary longsword
Still weird. RPG devs can't help but insert an Excalibur reference, and this game wasted it in act 1 on a +1 sword. House of Hope would've been a great place to loot one from since it has so much other stuff.
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>>487236782
falseflag
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>>487236949
No shit you dumb nigger
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>>487236838
...there's a harper hideout?
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all this talk about legendaries while there's only 3 light crossbows in the game
>common
>+1
>Sharran (literally the +1 with a different name)
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>>487237019
Realflag, Mintharafag is a known racist.
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Laezel is being judgy again

>>487237118
Loot distribution is dogshit we know
Want to be a dual axe wilding barbarian? well too bad
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>>487237383
She’s breaking the fourth wall and judging you for being a stupid nigger
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>>487235596
The answer to the steel watch's explosion is to move out of it to avoid it entirely, which is what an anon said. You responded to them with "turn order", implying that he's mistaken in some way, because "turn order". Which is false, because you do indeed have a turn to move away to avoid it entirely, just like the anon said. A steel watcher gains a 1 turn countdown before it explodes, starting on the turn it was damaged to low hp. Meaning everyone has a chance to run, including the last person who acted who put them at low hp. He was right.

>>487236905
I do agree that there should have been a Angurvadal in this game and it feels like a missed opportunity to not have a legendary longsword yet there are legendary tridents and less popular weapons, but thankfully modders are at least trying some ideas. This one was cool imo, and could even help with some other items that are cool but fall off due to power creep later in the game.

https://www.nexusmods.com/baldursgate3/mods/1626

>>487237053
Yes, just across the bridge towards wyrn's rock, before you leave towards the city. Jaheira will comment on it verbally so you don't miss it.
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>>487237574
So many vibrations…all at once…
Bibberbang in my ass
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>when the writers suddenly remember the Dark Urge is supposed to be blood thirsty

>>487237442
I am the most intelligent and whitest person in this general

>>487237574
>Which is false, because you do indeed have a turn to move away to avoid it entirely, just like the anon said. A steel watcher gains a 1 turn countdown before it explodes, starting on the turn it was damaged to low hp. Meaning everyone has a chance to run, including the last person who acted who put them at low hp. He was right.
No, if the turn order is Tav - Watcher - Laezel and Tav brings the Watcher to self-detonate, then Laezel doesnt get a chance to move out of the way. It can catch you off guard but it also works on the bane worshipping incels so its not as bad as something like Cazadors or Orins "legendary actions".
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>>487237953
You’re as white as the call center Liarian uses to run this place
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>>487238046
Take your meds
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>>487238204
Open your DMs kitten baby show bobs and vagene
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>>487238287
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>>487238595
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>>487238647
Remember to listen to me
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I miss the sisters.
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>>487237574
>Yes, just across the bridge towards wyrn's rock
she didn't make a comment, but i explored the area you described. found a place with some shapeshifter harpers and she started the minsc questline.

was that it?
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>>487238976
No you don’t
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>>487236905
>wants more legendary swords
>zero legendary axes
>not a single 1h axe at purple rarity, only two at blue rarity
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Why doesnt she cast wish here?
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>>487238982
>no response
well i'm moving on anyway
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>my youtube recommended list becomes mostly bg3
>see one with a million views
>decide to watch it
>he lies to the audience by saying that Kagha is an undercover shadow druid
This guy has made hundreds, maybe thousands of dollars from youtube revenue on this video, where he just misinforms people. What a clown world we live in.
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>>487240282
oh sorry my clit tickles
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>>487240363
I understand it must be difficult for you to address the unwashed masses namefag-san
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>>487238982
>>487240282
I was watching the video I just posted about. Not everyone scours the thread at all times. Yes, Dandelon's Dancing Axe or something to that effect. They're in the basement. He's also a good vendor so you should swing by for two reasons.
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>>487238982
>>487240282
Also my clit tickles and i am trans
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>>487240854
Thanks Mintharafag your answer is helpful!
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>>487240854
BIG M NEVER LOSES
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>+16
guess i'll order some food, it's gonna be a while
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>>487216739
Always find it cute when she puts on her mean face.
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>>487221867
You don't know what you're talking about. Humans don't have great track record in BG3, from Gale to Aradin to Rugan to Abdirak to Arfur to Gortash (or his parents) to Lorroakan. Those are your role models? I think one would be justified to be racist against humans. An honest or heroic human would be an exception.
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>>487240350
never watched that video but she kind of is? she's auditioning to join their crew and surrendering the grove to them. close enough even if she isn't technically a card carrying member (yet).
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>>487240854
Classic namefag.
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>Ready to parry
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>>487241681
Aint he a stinkah
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>>487241671
She's Second Druid of the Emerald Grove, one of the factions that directly oppose the shadow druids. She was very recently approached by them and seduced by them when they preyed upon her fears of goblins. She allegiance only faltered within the past few days since the goblins have been present. This is not an "undercover shadow druid". The guy just gave his audience the wrong impression that is not factually true.
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no one's reading that^
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>>487241970
>She was very recently approached by them and seduced by them
seduced into working for them - in secret (undercover). not sure why you're splitting hairs and having an aneurysm here. she isn't second druid of anything - halsin strips her of rank the instant he finds out what she's done and that's considered the lenient punishment instead of death or exile.
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She's Second Hooker of the Emerald HOEve, one of the Brothels that directly oppose the shadow whores. She was very recently solicited by them and seduced by them when they preyed upon her fears of dirty blacks. She allegiance only faltered within the past few days since the goblins have been present. (I’ll let this one remain unchanged) This is not an "undercover shadow hooker". The e-twink just gave his subscribers the wrong slut-pression that is not factually true with facts and logic
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>>487241671
Should people be judged and charged for crimes they have to commit? If I have a copy of Mein Kampf on my nightstand to read before bed, does that make me a Nazi? Has Kagha actually done anything wrong?
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>>487242463
Exterminate Dirty Tieflings in a ricecooker
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>>487242463
Kagha should have killed Shitsin, she would have become the true hero of baldur's gate.
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>>487242617
If only she didn’t become a tiefling savage vs elf crime statistic….
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>>487242241
Kagha is second druid of the grove, that's why she's in charge when Halsin leaves. This is one of the highest ranks of one of the factions that directly oppose the shadow druids. She's opposed them for a very long time to have gained that rank. She's only been influenced by them over the past few days, the time the goblins have been attacking and looking for them. You can just play the game to learn these things, you can even read the letter. She's been working for the shadow druids for a matter of days, and was a member of the emerald grove before that. She's not "an undercover shadow druid". That has a different meaning than what actually happened.

>>487242463
Kagha did do something wrong, since she didn't have perfect control over her druid companion snake and put it in a room with a child. This is called reckless endangerment, and she is guilty of accessory to manslaughter.

But one of the most pervasive misinformation I've seen about bg3 is people saying that Kagha tried to kill Arabella, or intended to kill Arabella. Neither are the case. Her decree was that Arabella be watched for one single day to make sure she doesn't steal anything else, before she is returned to her parents when they leave. So while Kagha is guilty of reckless endangerment and accessory to manslaughter, she is not guilty of murder or any premeditated crime.
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wow orin is so jealous that bhaal likes me better
her entire life is devoted to him. i barely think about bhaal at all
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>>487242463
It was actually really based when Kagha pimped out Arabella to the rest of the druids
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Oh, that was one long ass quality post, I sure as heck deserve to treat myself, yummy smoothies here I hecking come.
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the emperor made her his thrall, or something of that nature
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I cannot help but notice my earlier questioning (>>487212554) of the tiefling "refugees" has gone unanswered. People don't like to think about difficult situations where there isn't an immediate or convenient moral solution for moral people who were raised right. They would rather label those like Kagha "evil" for having the courage to stand for her people. Dump Zevlor's little army of devils on their doorstep and watch how long they can remain "refugee" apologists.
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>>487242812
>She's not "an undercover shadow druid"
>You can just play the game to learn these things, you can even read the letter.
maybe you're the one that needs to play again because the letter reads:
>Once cloistered, the Emerald Grove will be the Shadow Druids' domain, and you its First Druid.
she's literally in the process of overthrowing the emerald grove in direct subservience to the shadow druids - secretly and unbeknownst to the other druids. it's clear cut as it gets.
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Not the bimbofication spell
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>>487243160
What. Is. Her. Actual. Crime?
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>>487243160
She's a turncoat, not an undercover agent. You can say this is splitting hairs, but if you're making a youtube video to supposedly try to inform people about something, you shouldn't accidentally misinform them by using the wrong language. Anyone who watches this video and thinks Kagha is an undercover shadow druid would be walking away with the wrong idea. What Kagha actually is is an Emerald Grove druid who has recently been seduced to change sides.

If I'm a united states CIA agent and a russian spy gives me money to blow up a CIA base, I'm not an "undercover KGB agent", I'm a recent turncoat. The difference is obvious and requires no further explanation.

>>487243502
Right here >>487242812.
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>>487243502
Treason.
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>>487242812
Kagha endangered Arabella, true, and that is plenty reprehensible on its own, but it's not related to the Shadow Druids accusation. It's not like she wanted to murder a child anyway, she was putting on a show. We can agree she's mostly clean.
>>487243635
Wrong. Kagha is the opposite of a traitor. Her allegiance has always been to the grove. Those who would risk its safety to sympathize with outsiders are the real traitors.
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>she blows voss's cover just like that
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>>487244160
okay so you're just a schizo and you've been wasting everyone's time.
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>karlach wants to go on a dinner date
uh, really? she's disappointingly normal at times
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Kagha just wants the tieflings to fuck off and Trannysin to go back to raping horses. She literally did nothing wrong. Arabella tried to steal an artifact that was supposed to protect the grove from the goblins, she got off easy. Kagha and her hairy firebush did nothing wrong.
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>>487244857
>Kagha and her hairy firebush
such a shame they didn't allow her to be recruited so she could run around naked to repent for the rest of the game.
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>>487245040
Her companion character arc basically wrote itself
>good path
learns that all lives are valuable and are a gift from nature
>bad path
realizes that some lives need to be taken to let nature flourish

Shit is 1000 times more compelling than whatever the fuck they were trying to do with the zoophile.
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>>487244623
I'm not a schizo. And I think it's a little disingenuous to try to apply the letter of the real life law to a fictional situation far removed from it. A genuine discussion would focus on the spirit of the situation, who is in the right and who is in the wrong, not who can be labeled as a criminal if you apply specific legal definitions. The Emerald Grove is not a government or a state; the Shadow Druids are not a foreign power. Kagha is not a double agent, or a traitor.
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>>487245176
not enough room for halsin's writer's cuck fetish in a kagha plot.
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>>487245308
What's fucked up is that we WOULD have had Kagha as a companion if redditors simped for her over him
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Why would the God of nature care about the hecking refugeerinos?
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okay, karlach is surprisingly wholesome
guess i'll be moving to avernus when all this settles down? not a bad place for a child of bhaal
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>>487245176
That's not how druids even work. See Jaheira, an ostensibly "good" druid who also happens to be a high-ranking member of the H*rpers.
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>>487245257
no real life laws were cited. people and tribes went to war and had traitors before there was writing for there to be laws. she not only conspired to overthrow her leader, but she let the enemy tribe through the gates. the shadow druid circle is already standing by her side in rat forms at the start of the game. she didn't act within the bounds or norms of her own tribe to solve the problem - she made a power play to overthrow it (in secret no less). she's not only a traitor, but also a coward for her methods.
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>>487245538
I don't care about transsexual dnd lore, there are evil and good druids in the game, that would have been cool character paths.
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>>487245441
He doesn't particularly care either way. The grove can be a haven for refugees, since nature's bounty provides for people and people tend the grove in return, in cooperative harmony with nature. Sylvanus is sympathetic towards people who respect, admire, and do something in return for nature.
For example, had there been no goblin threat, Halsin probably would have given them food and had a big dinner for the guests, where he taught the kids how to plant trees and gave them seeds to plant trees wherever they found themselves in the future or something to that effect. Some kind of generosity followed by honoring or helping nature in some way.

What Sylvanus does flip a shit about is spilling blood in the grove. If you murder all the druids, you'll notice a poison in the altar area. I haven't looked at the details but my initial impression was this was Sylvanus showing his displeasure.

>>487245449
Yeah she's awesome. I would probably be a Karlachfag if Minthy didn't exist.

The soul coin thing is kind of messed up though.
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>>487239481
no plane caster
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>>487245176
They had a character that could change her arc based on the players action and squandered for Halsin lmao fucking worthless hacks at Larian

>>487245538
Jaheira is only a druid because she was raised as one, she immediately multiclassed into a Fighter after growing up to uncringe herself
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>>487245441
i think kagha is a traitor but this is also a dumb plot point because i agree that neither silvanus nor the grove should care much about some refugees from the city (of elturel). in fact, as a neutral aligned god, i'd imagine he'd be directly against taking in the losers of a conflict, as it could be seen as taking sides. nature itself stands to gain nothing by some random city slickers surviving another few days.
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>>487245614
>she not only conspired to overthrow her leader,
No such thing happened. The "leader" was missing and presumably dead, making her the de facto leader in the present. Who else is supposed to lead? Rath? Nettie? Inwe? Please.

Her new position has the right and responsibility to make tough decisions that don't need to be put to a vote. If a vehicle is heading toward disaster, you don't ask everyone what are the rules to follow, and whether it's in accordance with the norms, and whether it's okay, and whether feelings will be hurt - you take control of the vehicle and your steer it to safety. That's what a leader, not a traitor, does. Kagha is a hero who did NOTHING wrong.
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>>487246308
Irrefutable. Only nametranny is dumb enough to disagree. If your city were invaded by goblins, Kagha would have saved millions.
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>>487246308
halsin wasn't 'missing' until the player arrived in the grove with aradin's mercenary unit fleeing the goblins reporting that they'd lost him. until then, he was just away on business. kagha was already acting against him and the grove before then, as evidenced by the letters and the shadow druids being present.
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>>487244160
>Wrong. Kagha is the opposite of a traitor. Her allegiance has always been to the grove.
druids have always been at odds with shadow druids, even in bg1.
the shadow druids there presented the same argument you produce here - that they were loyal to the grove - and were slaughtered as murderous traitors. jaheira more or less explains that they're murderous cultists.
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>>487246508
It was never about overthrowing anyone out of some caricatural desire to seize power for herself so that phrasing is already biased and wrong. She thought the "leadership" inadequate to secure the future of the grove with the threat of the Absolute cult in the region, and when she was proven right and thrust into the position to make a decision, she had little choice left. She NEVER acted against the grove, only to safeguard it. This is a noble and admirable quality.
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Minsc, Halsin and Wyll should have never been companions. No one likes this characters for their writing, just their memes. They have no content and they bring nothing to the story.
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There's little point in stating something we can all agree on.
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and that statement is: cute frog
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>>487247718
That is not how you polish a sword. Dumb frog.
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>>487247718
There is a point in posting cute frogs: it's cute.
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>>487247769
I'm sure you know everything about polishing "swords" you faggot.
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>>487245916
>The soul coin thing is kind of messed up though.
eh, that doesn't bother me. the game really tries to frame it as some monstrosity but it just comes across as a silly affection when you've murderhobo'd your way across half the sword coast.

this is my first time playing with karlach (with two infernal iron upgrades): i've always saved minty. it's because the last patch made it possible to knock minty out easily. but i feel like they should have closed that loophole instead of opening it wider: minty's dialogue just seems so hollow and forced if you knock her out - compared to how vivid and real it is if you side with her in act 1.
if you ask me, if you don't burn the grove for minthara, you don't deserve her as a companion.
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>if you don't commit an act of pure and wanton evil and massacre women and children, you don't deserve a Neutral Good companion
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If you refuse to purge an evil grove full of devils and shadow druids, you don't deserve a Neutral Good companion.
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>>487249882
Minthara doesn't want to burn down the grove though. She murders with purpose, and prefers to do it stealthily. Burning down some random village, with great risk to yourself for no gain, in the name of a god she doesn't actually believe in, is the antithesis of what she's actually like as a person. She's selfish, conniving, and an atheist. She was being driven to be the opposite of herself in almost every way (except enjoying murder, but she doesn't like murder more than she likes personal gain). It was the absolute making her that way. So if you didn't raid the grove, she doesn't really care, and is just glad to be under the artifact free from the absolute.

This is also why she fits fine with a party that shares her goals, but not necessarily her alignment. NE is totally fine working with any other alignment, because NE is about goals and serving one's self. A team is just a means to an end, you don't have to agree on anything past the goal at hand. This is totally the opposite of the Good alignments, who do care about method and not just the ends justify the means. It's also different than both Law and Chaotic alignments in the same way, because those care about Law for the sake of law and they care about Chaos for the sake of chaos, but NE cares about literally nothing other than one's self, so you can be as chaotic or as lawful as you want to serve your goals, and you can stand happily next to Good party members and not care, as long as they have the same end goal. NE doesn't care about not doing things in an evil manner, whereas NG does refrain from doing things in an evil manner. NE is one of my favorite alignments at the table because it can do anything and the player can justify it through context and characterization, whereas every other alignment has at least one fallback where they can just say "I'm not going to do that because I'm Good" or whatever.

Anyway, there are several points in the game where Minth admonishes wanton killing.
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no one's reading that either^
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I'm going to read EVERY word.
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>>487243126
The stuff with Stelmane is really weird and it all likely points to a cut storyline. She hugged him once, so he didn't enthrall her immediately, but nothing in the game suggests when or why he eventually did. There's a text that suggests he at one point psionically borrowed her image to eat some brains on dishware and let it get sent back to the kitchen when the illusion that it was mutton pie wore off so the cook could see it and eventually lead to his capture by Gortash. The eponymous Shield containing the organization's original secret puppet master is stolen, but this doesn't go anywhere.
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...of much more interesting posts
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Life... is strength. This is not to be contested; it seems logical enough. You live, you affect your world.
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>>487250773
>Minthara doesn't want to burn down the grove though
it's was never about her wants. it's a question of are you willing to kill these devils and shadow druids in order to infiltrate the cult and reach the source of its power. And, true to form, if you tell minty that it was the only way to get her on your side she understands and approves.
I get that she's neutral evil. But. If burning the grove truly was the only way to recruit her, it become the neutral evil thing to do.
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>>487254380
If you tell her it was to impress her, or if you tell her it was your route to infiltrating the cult, she approves of both. Because that's a goal, and as a NE she approves of any action, including evil ones, that serve a goal. Learning about the cult and the tadpoles, and impressing a cute girl, are both goals.

She would disapprove of raiding the grove if you didn't have a goal. Which is reflected in her dialogue. You have the option of answering "I thought it would be fun" or something along those lines, and she calls you an idiot. This also aligns with the NE alignment. Minthy is a well written character and a great example of NE in literature. Evil can be great, if it serves a purpose, but evil for the sake of evil is stupid. That goal should involve my personal benefit to some degree. I don't care about law, and I don't care about chaos, I only care about ME. This is NE boiled down, and Minthy is consistent in it.
But the thing I love most about her is that she is consistent well written NE, but with a soft spot for the player and actually experiences true love, which is meaningful for a NE person because normally they are too selfish to actually pair bond properly.

But enough about why I love Minthy. I actually agree that if raiding the grove was the only way to get Minthy, it would be an actual decision to make anew every single playthrough. "Does this character want to do that, for Minthy" would be a question every time, and that's more interesting than just getting your cake and eating it too, no questions to ask yourself, you just get Minthy and you also get Dammon/Alfira robe/etc. Trust me when I say you're preaching to the choir when it comes to the game lacking hard decisions, and the even removed the one hard decision left in the game, an interesting and fun companion vs a ton of gear and vendors and story characters. But that's the story of bg3, the player gets their cake and eats it too.
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>>487255454
can you complete her romance if you don't side with her in the first act?
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>>487255903
Yes you can. It progresses the same after meeting her again in act 2, with only a handful of different dialogue. I'd say 85%-90% the same. She even has a backup question to ask you to replace the one about the grove if you didn't raid the grove, so they accounted for it.
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>finally get to act 3
>further than i've ever gotten before
>intense urge to restart
i have 421 hours in this game and i've never gotten further than sorcerous sundries
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Why does BG3 have 0 asian representation?
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that's not true. the zhent villain girl and the evil vampire are asians. as well as some random nameless npcs
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>some random nameless NPCs
Why are there no major characters who are asians?
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>the main villain of one of the most popular origins is asian
>nooo there's no major asian characters
next you will complain there are no african characters
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there are too many african characters and cazador is not a major character lmao
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>"there's too many africans"
uh excuse me??
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you heard me and they're not pretty either
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>>487261857
>we need for poc representation!!!
>all of them are racist slit eyed and gorilla lipped caricatures
Based or cringe?
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>>487262346
cringe
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>>487262346
All of the faces are mocapped...
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BG3 actually did representation as a necessary evil right. Outside of that one token non-character, every companion is fantasy white or fantasy exotic (Jaheira's from Tethyr) or fantasy alien. There's a gay quota, but it was 90% filled by gnomes, a race players are less likely to care about. Baldur's Gate is supposed to be a metropolis anyway, so some diversity is to be expected. It's diversity that doesn't take you out of the setting too much, unlike with DA4.
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you forgot to mention the nigga elves the nigga dwarves, the tranny in the circus, the tranny in the sharran cloister and Wyll's daddy being the greatest leader in the universe because the plot said so.
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>Kim Kitsuragi
Representation done right.
>Wyll Niggergard
Representation done poorly.
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>nigger elves
atrocity
>nigger dwarves
didn't even notice
>tranny in the circus
circus has always had freaks and transvestites. this is fine.
>nigger duke marry sue
awful forced representation.
>didn't mention the lesbians
they have quite a lot of lovey-dovey screen time.

>nigga
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I didn't forget. I specifically mentioned representation as a necessary evil and quotas needing to be filled. This isn't a Larian original creation; it's based on a pre-existing setting that was always diverse and an IP owned by WotC. Consider acquiring reading comprehension.
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this setting blows dick too though DOS3 when?
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>kagha is good
flirting
>minthara is good
harassment
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yes i'm sure Larian raged and seethed that they had to put in a diverse cast. "necessary representation" my ass
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>all the gnomes were fags on purpose
>DND being a trannyfest had no impact whatsoever on BG3's development
>the tiefling refugee crisis was handled tastefully and with great knowledge on the subject
>the way the game handles sexuality and gender was definitely not made to appeal to twitter and tumblr
>wyll was definitely not made to appeal to black folx
>nocturne looking like he was made in less than 3 seconds was definitely an artistic choice
>the game shoving the brothel down the player's throat sure as hell isn't a way to cater to transsexual freaks on tumblr
Sigh :/
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Nobody cares about your headcanon and how politically motivated you think Larian was with tokens, or what he said and what she said on twitter. Crying about minorities in your video games is neither original nor interesting. By all means, be racist, but also have something to say. Otherwise, you can fuck off back to /v/ where race-baiting is easy and much more successful.
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the tiefling refugees are a clear reference to the european refugee crisis during the time that bg3 was first in EA.
the presented 'good' decisions there mirror perfectly what was the most popular view regarding it at the time
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I'm not here for attention, I'm here to talk about one of my favorite studios, feel free to ignore my posts, people jerk off this game for its representation which is objectively terrible, we could also talk about how the game handles sexuality if you want, there are a lot of things to be said there too, sister. Let's see how Larian handles game development when they don't have jewish investors telling them how many gnomes they can add in Act 3. Literally, token characters. Nice representation.
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>jews out of nowhere
Yup. Congratulations on wasting time. You could have just posted some slop.
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Oh this is going to be fun.
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The leitmotif of power being synonymous with corruption is a clear reference to The Lord of the Rings (books or movies). What BG3 achieved here will be discussed for decades to come.
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>>487265456
> power being synonymous with corruption
>evil endings are released over a year after the game's release
yeah...
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When is the game done so I can play it?
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>>487265761
September.
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>>487265761
Never.
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>>487265796
What, patch 7 is the last one?
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>>487266093
Yes.
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>>487266093
For relevant content, probably. They said there would be additional patches after that for stuff like photo mode and QoL improvements, but that's not what was asked.
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>>487265761
Probably patch 7. They're not going to change much after that. Patch 7 has some new cutscenes, epilogues, and some fixes.

>>487266093
Not the last ever patch, but the last one with new stuff probably. It'll probably be minor fixes after that, maaaybe some very minor dialogue tweaks or whatever if someone is feeling like it.
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Are we gonna get custom campaigns now that BG3 has modding tools?
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>>487266769
You're not even getting custom quests
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>>487266769
no
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>>487266769
hahaha
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>>487266769
They said no, they said it will be even more limited compared to DivOS2's mod tools (which did have a campaign editor), so we should temper expectations. It's not going to be even close to bethesda's creation kit.

But on the other hand, right now even without the mod tools people are making script heavy encounter mods and and entire roguelike mode (trials of tav), so part of me is hopeful that there will be very cool stuff regardless of console limitations.
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>>487267089
>trials of tav
is there an ascension condition?

this seems fun. anyone here tried it so far? i'd be down to try it in mp
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>>487266813
>>487266901
>>487267054
>>487267089
Oh ffs. Wtf are you doing, Larian?
Thanks for Trials of Tav though, let's hope people can sort more cool content out.
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>>487267376
Yeah I played it a good bit. Did a few runs until there was an egregious balance issue due to the rtandomness and I died. Stuff like a levvel 10 wizard casting Blight for an amount of damage greater than some of our healthbars combined. So it's certainly a cool mode and you should try it, just it'll be random which has drawbacks.

I think it would be improved by a more curated experience. It might be more work, but if the mod had a series of handcrafted encounters rather than random, and it was on a logical power curve as you level and find gear, I think it would be better.
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I don't think Patch 8 is going to save BG3 either...
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>>487267752
>series of handcrafted encounters
that's the opposite of what it means to make a roguelike
something like the unmodded game would have that

you'll never have the tactical depth of a roguelike with the bg3 engine anyway. still, it could be fun. I've posted it in /rlg/ but they'll probably just say it's not a roguelike they'd be right
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>>487268054
Patch 9 for sure!
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>normal people
>beat BG3, call it generational, and move on
>/bgg/
>stick (obsesses) with this game long enough that nitpicks people were able to ignore becomes "game ruining"
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>normal people
>drop BG3 after act 1
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>>487269984
>drop BG3 after act 1
based
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act 2 is the best
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>>487270440
Irrefutable.
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>>487270440
wrong
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>Act 1 is the best
normalfag
>act 2 is the best
patrician
>act 3 is the best
redditor
>DOS2 is better
elder god
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>trials of Tav

Now that's some modslop.
Roguelike mods are cringe.
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Act 3 is the best because of the brothel
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>Divinity original slop
>better than anything
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>>487271569
DOS2 has better companions, a better OST, a better supporting cast, doesn't have cuckolding, bestiality or Nocturne and is loved and beloved by all larian fans. It's a love letter to CRPG fans and appeals to straight people. There's a reason DOS2 is getting a sequel made by larian and not BG3.
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>>487272135
>Liarian fans
i.e. faggots
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>an actual official forum to post your grievances
>"nah I'll just piss them out in to the wind here"
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>>487272714
Its kinda funny how the most critical, Liarian bashing place in the internet is their own forum
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>unironic dos2 apologists
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Imagine being scared of her
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>>487272832
No shit.
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DOS2's success funded your Bear Gaper simulator, take it easy.
>>487272953
yo act 3 sucks
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>>487272135
just want you to know i didn't read your post
i wasn't inviting you to post your shitty opinion
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>>487273161
I don't expect someone saying slop to know how to read, no worries, trannybro.
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>>487273262
>you didn't read because you're illiterate
>not because you consider me beneath you
ha. what a desperate attempt to salvage your failing ego
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>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MVFbz9ZSilU
This moment alone is cooler than Shadowheart's 50 hours long companion quest.
>>487273461
But you did read my posts...
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>>487272953
Why does he look worse than Alfira despite literally having her face?
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>schizo off-topic spam
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>>487273717
i can't help it. i am able to read an entire paragraph at a glance, it's faster than my mind can process it. but as soon as i realize it's junk i can just forcefully think about something else, essentially leaving the process unfinished. for example, think about how to mock you for writing something dumb. however, i still have some subconscious understanding of what happened, so i can usually make a guess about what's being said. since it's always some utterly predictable idiocy i'm not wrong
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>>487274106
Maturity slider + some sort of mental block due to knowing what he is
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>>487274346
There are DOS2 portraits in BG3, your grandkids will be playing the DOS2 remake and call it bussin.
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>>487274106
I would be lying if I said I wouldn't bang both
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>>487274725
Put your name back
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>>487274360
I do this with the guy who pretends to be me’s posts.
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Let's be real, BG3's only competition is WOTR.
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>>487274960
WOTR is the better game assuming you actually play CRPGs.
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>>487274960
Competition in what?
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>>487274960
Kingmaker is better than WOTR
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>>487274960
>WOTR
that's not even the best Pathfinder game
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>>487212637
He hates them because they kill people. You hate them because they're zog.
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Swen said that their next game is better than BG3...
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Trial of Thief
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>>487275729
Physically impossible
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>>487276106
We would still be riding horses if we listened to idiots like you
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>>487276293
I don’t trust LIARian
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>>487275729
Exciting.

And I honestly believe it. If they make a game that has the graphics, cutscenes, voice acting quality, OST quality, and solid turn based gameplay of bg3, except they make a creative and deep mechanical progression system that is not constrained by dnd 5e, then it will indeed be better. Everything the same except not held back by 5e is a perfect recipe for a good game.

>>487274960
They're both good, both have great OST, both have silly but fun plot, the cast of characters are pretty even in quality, all in all they're pretty close.

bg3 has a bit more polish when it comes to graphics, voice acting, cutscenes, animations, and other visuals. But on the other hand, these are just bells and whistles, they're not the meat of what makes an rpg good.

In turn, wotr has deeper mechanical progression, a slightly better story but not a large margin, more gear and upgrades, and just more to it in general it's many hours longer.

The thing that bg3 does have over wotr is being turn based. That's ultimately the deciding factor. More on that here >>486528859.
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Reminder that Swen Vincke outlawed Baldur's Gate 3 discussion on the 9th of May.
What you're all doing here is illegal.
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>>487276569
based fuck BG3
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>>487276569
Reminder that I post longer and longer posts the more you people shitpost!!!
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>>487276834
But you take off your name just to shitpost...
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>5e bad
>but also swen's homebrew of 5e bad

I swear some of you people will never be happy with anything
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>>487277061
I would never, now let’s talk about how much drowcock I canonically take, remember facts are important and we must discuss them!
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>>487277263
>>but also swen's homebrew of 5e bad
Only people who wanted a 5e copypaste think that
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>>487277263
5e isn't "bad", it's the most popular rpg on the planet by a pretty large margin.
But what it is is simple. Swen has said multiple times that his team couldn't do something they thought of doing because it's not in 5e. They were constrained by 5e.
Now that they don't have that limitation, it stands to reason that if they make a game that simply has the same effort put into visuals and QoL, but has a more robust and creative ruleset that doesn't constrain the developers, then the game they make will be good, and possibly better than bg3.
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Rape is good.
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Karlach would make for a good mom.
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>>487278076
She can’t be a mom.
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>>487278076
The best.
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>>487278076
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>>487279061
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Don't at me namefaggot
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Does turning into a mindflayer instantly destroy your soul? Or can you just an hero once you destroy the brain and some good deity will take pity and rescue you?
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>>487276501
pretty fair review. I wonder what owlcat would do with larian's budget
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>>487279346
He’s so desperate for positive attention
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I will never pay attention to a person who judges aspects of game design that have elevated the genre and allowed greater immersion in a role-playing game like ""bells and whistles".
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Swen is married you don't need to suck him off that hard
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>>487280706
>>487280706
>>487280706
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>>486528859
Good post. I've always, always disliked RTwP. And usually, people's counterargument is that encounters would take too long. "No!", I say. It's in the encounter design. In a turn-based game, you wouldn't be fighting chaff every couple of steps or have a bunch of low-level enemies in every encounter. Or at least, only in a bad turn-based game. Meanwhile, RTwP has to do this because otherwise encounters would be over too quickly and the game would become a walking simulator.

It's such a shame that the Pathfinder games are RTwP. I still haven't played them because I refuse to play that sort of RPG nowadays, but I'm probably gonna make an exception, reluctantly.



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