Katawa Shoujo General #4001Summertime Means Working in the Yard EditionLast Thread: >>486114121 Official Website: http://www.katawa-shoujo.com/ (KS is free!)Backup KS Download: https://drive.google.com/file/d/14sXK5HaU108--T7EjeEVj3xdv_KSB3_R (Windows)KS Alpha: http://steamcommunity.com/groups/KSPreAlpha/discussions/0/1291816880498430072/Summer's Clover: https://rentry.org/ghxzx (Suriko's Miki Route - date Suzu or Hisao)Crud's "Where Are 4LS Now?": https://www.reddit.com/r/katawashoujo/comments/6v2zkb/the_whes're_are_they_now_post/ Thread Links:Master Pastebin: https://rentry.org/x6tv3KSG FAQ: https://rentry.org/ub3bs"I'm such a failure, I'll never find my Katawa": https://rentry.org/qty2d Community Works:Katawa Booru: http://cripple.booru.org/Hanako Image Database: http://www.hanakoisbestgirl.com3D-Printable Katawa Figurines: http://ks.renai.us/viewtopic.php?f=51&t=10195.swfDesktop Katawas: http://www.mediafire.com/?ogvo1fh7d5x36j9Katawa Crash: http://katawashoujo.wikia.com/wiki/Katawa_CrashKenjivania: https://www.newgrounds.com/portal/view/608881?id=608881KS fanfics: https://fourleaffics.miraheze.org/wiki/Category:/ksg/Honey Select Anon's Database: https://www.dropbox.com/sh/u7im3gkxe6z5vgj/AAACdqV-sKDjbSvh5J0HXKA1a?dl=0Val's Content Dump + Pantsu: https://www.dropbox.com/sh/n4aed5v6np2et5n/AADxAbytpFjXjEj0e7h77HRka?dl=0Anon's Sprites + Font Rip: https://drive.google.com/open?id=1hf0x-rFjBzSqcSMD0ohxaai_zS_OVzyyKSG Map: https://www.google.com/maps/d/edit?mid=1q8DrtNX3CNyylt8IhORnVHBTAcu4h9MH
Goodnight /ksg/ilu retards
>>487974134>round toesThe mad man actually did it. Thank you Doggo.
>>487974218YW. Snoozu time now
>>487974520Goodnight anon.
Is this an official artbook or am I being baited?
>>487974664unofficial, community artists
I won't bump page 10 anymore because #4000 should have been the last thread
Heard about the Steam release. Congratulations on suddenly being relevant again, KSG. Please be nice to newbies.
Goodnight /ksg/.
>>487979065goodnight anon, that was quite a day for KS
>>487974664It's a good day to be a cripplfren
>>487974058>Steam releaseI'm going to romance... Lilly.
>10
poast
>>487974058Good morning /ksg/, anyone here have a hangover?
I don't like yardwork, for the record
>>488001074How did Rin steal Shizune's tits?
>>488001074Good morning anon, im hoping to be curing a vacation hangover tommorow
Pats!
I will get my irl Emi, and nobody can stop me
>>487951016>>487951232I've been wondering for so many years why those images were in the sprite rips. I always thought the NSFW toggle would just skip those scenes, but in retrospect, that doesn't make sense and would make it tricky to maintain narrative continuity.
> play Steam release of Katawa Shoujo> hours into Shizune route> "Achievement Unlocked: Comfort Misha"
Would like new content for the Steam release, even if it's likely there won't be any. I dunno maybe epilogues for each route or new artwork or something.
>>488009225she just wanted that sausage slipper
>>488010437The one person behind the Steam port is ultra insecure, intent on preserving the sanctity of his precious Lilly route, determined to keep Hanako's route subverted, does not understand the other characters wholesale, and has no talent nor ability to revisit them with new content anyway. "Unlikely" isn't the word, "impossible" is the word.
Bros I had to recheck steam when I woke up. Did I dream it? But no, it's true. We are so back.
>>488009225I'm gonna be surprised if it had achievements at all.
>>488010437The whole gang would have to get back together and they've already said that's not happening.
>>488014546>Swaggervest: complete all five major routes
WE'RE ALL GONNA MAKE IT!!
Can't wait to replay on my steam deck <3 <3 <3
Feeding Rin
Punching Rin in her stupid face!
>>488020204
>>488020204This. Except I don't use my fist, if you know what I mean.I mean fucking Rin's mouth like a pussy
>>488020204Why is she such a dumb bitch?
>>488020204Good. She deserves it for being such a manipulative smartass. Obviously, Hanako deserves it more, but Rin doesn't get any mercy.
>>488014546I would be too, I would just think it'd be funny if they did. With that said, what kind of achievements do you guys think would be for the Steam release if it had them?
>>488018315Holy shit that's adorable
>>488021753rude
hey guys saw this new vn coming out on steam it looks pretty cool ^_^
>>488025862We're all really excited about it. Which route do you think will be best?
>>488027885My wife's route!
>>488028542good choice, MY wife's route is hopefully gonna be good
>>488011562Aw shiet>>488015706Can someone let me know why everyone else seems almost ashamed of this game? Is it because of the porn? If so that's based but I mean we all make mistakes.
>>488029471>Is it because of the porn? If so that's basedit might be the most cringe thing imaginable in fact
>>488029471sex+4chan+schoolgirls
>>488004709I don't mind it so long as it's not miserable out. Had to do some today and felt like I was about to have a heatstroke because of the heat+humidity
>>488031219I know, porn is the most cringe thing imaginable. I mean have you seen how addicted losers react when you so much as criticize it? Shit's like a religion at this point, no wonder 4leaf wants to distance itself from it.
>>488011562Maybe it's for the best.
>>488028954Needs more headpats.
>>487974134Cute but the background is black so it's hard to see her dress. The thumbnail is transparent though.
>>488035493If the image is transparent, the background is whatever you make it.
>>488036337How do I do that in here?
>>488036535Do what?
>>488036535anon...
>>488036604Your mom
>>488021552One for each ending. One for 100% completion.
>>488010437Im honestly surprised there are (almost) no mods with after story content or alternate scenarios with the girls. I mean lets be real the “ban” on mods is a gentleman’s agreement with the community at best – if someone wanted to they would have damn the bans or no. The only mods in any force except for the Miki spin-off are all made by Russians.It’s not hard at all. There’s more assets available than you can ask for and Renpy is stupid simple to learn. You really just need time, some art, and some music if you are feeling going above and beyond. But its been 12 years. My take is that if there hasn’t been an expansion or a big mod by now there never will be. Anyone who even remembers this game is an automatic oldfag. Im honestly jealous of DDLC zoomers – theres a fuck ton of mods and their fans eat good. I mean ffs someone put Emi as your classmate into that game.
>>488043032I wonder what the Kenji ending's achievement name would be
>>488046842>jealous of DDLCmost of their shit is just disgusting redditslop
i wish you couldve gotten to fuck the dokis. wouldve made the twist more impactful even
>>488047421It's so sad that you'll never know how you look in the eyes of us adults.
>>488036604Change the transparency in browser? Why does it default to black?
Do emotional cripple girls count as katawas?
>>488036337Thanks anyway. I realized it was mobile view that was changing the image background to black for some reason.
>>488048784You can't have every girl as a katawa
>>488047421At least they have initiative. This place is dead as shit – even whats left of the carcass that is 4LS admitted the move to Steam was for posterity more than anything. You think these characters are obscure now? Imagine in 10 more years; no one is going to recognize the girls other than the true internet wizards. I know every dog has its day, but I cant help but scoff at the childishness of the creators for their bizarre antipathy, enough to sperg out and threaten cease and desists on anyone that dares to touch their toys (they they stopped playing with loooooong ago), or to outright disavow your entire work. I can’t imagine how much an insufferable faggot you have to be to deny you even admitted contributing to literally the best part of the game like the composer did.I wish someone would just make a big mod, or an expansion, after story, spinoff; something really good and quality with these characters just to show them that they didn’t just make a shallow porn game, but honestly touched the hearts and inspired thousands of people.
>>488029471I honestly don't know. From what I understand, development on the game in general was hell (at least one route needed a full rewrite and another needed drastic changes between alpha and launch) and I imagine it's less "we're embarrassed about this" and more "I'm not working with them again".Part of it is also probably not wanting to be associated with a project from 4chan because, well. Look at /pol/ and tell me you blame them.
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>>488047421>>488049197I have never really loved comparisons between DDLG and KS. KS was made by a bunch of creatives that had a single, individual project in mind and they split shortly afterwards. DDLG was mostly done by a single man, the absolute machine of a renaissance man that is Dan Salvato.Dan likely had a lot more planned out beyond the game coming out and wanted to support it further. The 4LS team wanted to get it out and be done with it.
Asking Lilly to take a look at this cool card trick I just learned!
>>488050093Braille cards exist, anon
>>488046842Well fuck I mean I first played this game in 2017 and I'm 23. Am I an oldfag?
>>488051938I was here in 2014, and I'm not an oldfagwe still love you though
>>488051938I was here in 2012 and I'm not an oldfag.
>>488049197And you wonder why you don't have a girlfriend
>>488021753I really, really, really like this image>>488049197I thought I read once that the team doesn't care about preventing side content anymore? I might have misunderstood whatever the announcement was, though. Also, I guess I'm not sure what they would have agreed on, considering that the team members are scattered all over and not really in close contact with one another.Sucks that the composer tried to distance himself so much though, his work is really powerful.>obscure nowI don't think they're obscure. For anyone with any taste and awareness, at least the appearances of the girls and where they come from are fairly well known. Normies don't know about it, but that's how it should be. I don't like my hobbies being cross-contaminated with normie fan groups. Sucks about the whole Steam thing.
>>488047154Manly Picnic.
>>488053419They do allow fan made content NOW.The retarded part is they had a (unenforceable) ban on all fan-made content for 10 years after the game came out.
playing footsies with Emi!
>>488047636>Sex scene if you reciprocate Sayori's love>She still kills herself aftermemeworthy>>488049284I think it's likely more the former than the latter. If they wanted to do more stuff together they could just rebrand or something. >>488049497They're both western VNs with cute, distinctive, anime girls in high school. Admittedly surface level but most comparisons are.>Dan likely had a lot more planned out beyond the game coming out and wanted to support it furtherWith Plus getting released on Steam and console a while back he's clearly still interested in the IP.
>>487957708
>>488059756Oh, I need that, thanks. I'll send it to him.>>488059756Yeah, but Dan is a fucking machine. The man is:- An indie game developer.- One of the lead developers on Project M.- An accomplished Yoshi's Story speedrunner and former World Record holder.- Creator of FrankerFaceZ.- Mario Maker level creator (RIP).- A skilled breakdancer.
>>488059993Based.
If the game released 12.5 years ago, why is the Steam release more than two weeks away? Are they still working on it?
>>488066278Celebration for the 4000th thread
>>488067092nvm I misread your comment. Idk, maybe.
Steam release sounds cool, I actually thought game was already there. I haven't really thought about KS for about 10+ years, but I'm excited to replay, I barely remember anything
>>488068369You will soon remember that Emi is best girl
>>488068709Not according to my folder! But I did do Emi route first, as per tradition.
>>488035493I gotchu senpai
I played through grid1, downloaded Act 1 and 1.0 when they released, and never got around to actually playing them.
>>488059756>She still kills herself afterexactly, same with the rest and their fates
>>488069413This image is great. I know i already said it earlier, but thank you doggo.It would be nice if we could get a high-quality Emo to go with tour latest BTGR, Femji, and Emilly drawings.
>>488069413The face kinda makes think of studio Ghibli.
>>488069419>Hanako cuteYes!
>>488046842The game is just that good and making an alternate route/future for completed stories seems disrespectful.
>>488076805Hanako and Shizune's routes are already 100x more disrespectful than the works of anyone fixing them.It was plain old lust for control, and KS died while other indie VNs soared. The end.
>>488069419tf are you doing then, anon? Go play the game!
>>488077000idk dude, I definitely would not have enjoyed Shizune's route if it stayed as it was in the alpha.
>>488077000>Other indie VNs soaredSerious question, why should we want Katawa Shoujo to "soar"? Sales are irrelevant as it was free, the routes were largely complete stories so no sequels necessary, and frankly I have no interest in some random 3rd party fixing Shizune's and Hanako's routes. It would be nice if the game were better in its original state, but anyone who wanted to add to KS would be better off just making their own VN with its own story.
>>488083097It's fun to have other people to talk to about the game and see fanart/other works about it?
>>4880770004LS gaslighted everyone with the "mods=le bad" for years, it's insane that you can still find some retards here defending them
>>488058931Emi is a extreme foot fetishist and she uses her sister Emo (who goes along with it because of her crippling survivors guilt) to vicariously live out her sick twisted foot fantasies.
>>488069413Thanks!! Also, gawdDAYUM thar be some tig ol biddies
>>488069413>butt cheek fangs
Goodnight /ksg/, don't die while I'm asleep
>>488085919Goodnight anon.
>>488070683Thanks!>high-quality EmoI don't know how much time I'll have this week, but I'll think of something beyond "palette-swapped Emi +1 booba point"
10 lapa!
I'll stick to blogging on /vn/ but might aswell dump the bigger thoughts in here too if one of you schizos has something to add.Looking back on the writing with how Hisao decided to get over his depression, it doesn't feel like much has changed with the forced drama (his botched confession at the start of attic arc) and things being slightly awkward because of it. In the first place it didn't really feel like he's depressed or avoiding things or really like he had any trouble in the school. And he didn't start exercising or anything either. Rin hating change and making a decision to change is also.. weird. When she's not really changing and it was just about the decision to take part in the art showcase. More like deciding to take painting seriously than milling about, change's such a bad word for this/.In other words I think the writer's a bit subpar. Things do progress at least, in a way, but in another it feels like things deliberately lag behind (Hisao's understanding of Rin) even though they shouldn't. Like he has no idea how to write it and has to drag the status quo out.It feels like the writer's lost in the vague/weird atmosphere he set up too much and it's spread from Rin onto the story. She ends up being autistic for autism's sake - too autistic. She just doesn't say anything normal anymore, i.e "going in squares" just to avoid the normal "going in circles".In a way what makes the route so good (autism) is also overdone and drags it down so far. Dunno if it has to do with the rest of the team leaving things to this writer more after common route or something else.I've read Lily's and Hanako's 10+ years ago and I feel like they handled Hisao getting over disabilities better.
>>488049197DDLC will be forgotten too and you're retarded if you want random autists to ruin the IP by producing afterstory sloppa. Its over, its done, get fucking over it. Wishing for your favorite franchise to be milked dry is mental illness. Go make a chatbot for one of the girls if you really need to
Name one (1) reason Hanako's route wouldn't be better if her sex scene was replaced with a headpatting scene.
>>488107570This but its also standing sex
>>488107570sex is good
>>488107641Standing pats, more like.
>>488107641Okay but only if it's also clothed_sex and possibly either risky_sex or _public_sex.
>>488108941it's casual clothed standing headpatting sex. You can have public non-standing sex in the cinema
>>488014546Katawa Crash did
>>488107451I think this happens because is too real. If you had to manage yourself a discapacity (mental or physical) it is something like in her story. You always feel like you're behind, that things you do do not consolidate and your decisions are not solid. For Rin, trying to do art seriosly is a very hard decision. For Hisao, accepting who he is is difficult. He might say that he's feeling better, but that isn't true.
I wonder what's Lilly's favorite color
>>488107451I haven't played recently, so this is just from memory>forced dramaA botched confession feels totally realistic to me, and it would create "slight" awkwardness. This is a story set and focused around high schoolers, the drama intensity should match at least most of the time>Rin hating change and making a decision to changeThis is central to the entire route. It IS unusual for her to do it, and for Rin it is way, way more of an issue than just taking part in a "showcase" (which it isn't, it's a dedicated gallery exhibition), or of taking her art "seriously". The route will not make sense to you if by the end of it you aren't understanding Rin and how she feels about this topic.>leaving things to this writer moreIIRC the vast majority of each route was done solo by its writer. I don't remember the writing quality enough to say whether it's good or bad with any evidence, but I'm sorry that you aren't enjoying it.>getting over disabilitiesThat could be, but neither the route, nor any of the routes, nor the game is focused on that subject. The people have disabilities, but the game isn't per se even about disabilities.I'm just saying this based off of a vague impression, but I think you might be judging the game and writing due to expectations that they don't actually intend to deliver on. To exaggerate, it's sort of like a guy complaining that there isn't enough action in Casablanca. For example, you mention that the "vague/weird atmosphere" has "spread from Rin onto the story" -- to me, that's a good thing. That vague weirdness is a central element of Rin, and the story should reflect that. It's also realistic, because Hisao is mostly spending time with her, and peoples' thought processes change to match the people and concerns they are mostly preoccupied with. It would be impossible to spend months in close association to Rin without finding yourself becoming slightly more like her.
>>488132456corduroy
>>488132456didn't she say it's white?
>>488133253>confessionYeah but even Hisao should know confessing to her in the middle of this massive event in her life isn't a good idea, it feels a bit too stupid for him. The awkwardness it'd creeate is fine, thats realistic as you said.The issue is just how we got there and how there wasn't any change in Hisao - he doesn't strive to be more positive or anything despite the previous arc ending with both of them making the big decision to move forward.>changeHer changing is a result of working on the exhibit though, rather than the goal as the game presented it, but ye it might make sense later. Or maybe it was just meant to be framed as her being aware it might change her, but the writer's botched it a bit.>unusual for her to do itThe game starts off with her painting a mural for a public event, so that doesn't really come across.>aren't enojying itits plenty enjoyable, im just bothered by issues more than the average reader - like the forced drama is a pretty common minor sin in stories than most people don't mind.>getting over disabilitiesMy bad, wasnt clear enough. Getting over his views on them and how they not define people and their lives*>atmosphere spreadingIt's fine in a way - for them to be consumed by Rinness - like how Hisao starts matching her somewhat.But it's not fine for the writer to be consumed by it. It feels like he's obsessed too much over making her weird and autistic to the point where it sometimes looks fake and forced, backfiring that way. She was more subdued/normal in common and leading out of it, before the writer got into it too much. She felt more human and natural before it got cranked up. It's not to the point where she's lost her humanity or its a major issue, just noticeable.>expectations vs realityNah, besides maybe being too harsh on the writer and not looking at it like an amateur project, because it doesn't feel like it is oneI like it overall, besides the unchanging Hisao, its just minor issues and nitpicks.
>>488126886>HisaoThat's fine if the story continues on the subject, which I feel it might not. Ch.2 felt pretty final about it, with him "rising from underwater" back into the world, so its awkward that the story doesn't reflect it besides him no longer dwelling on the disabilities, depression and Yamaku.The writer's intent got through, but it doesn't feel like he's done enough "showing, not telling" I guess.>RinI get the gist of it, but again it feels like the writer failed to show it. I can tell what he was going for but it doesn't really make sense with how it's written. It didn't feel like she's casual about art, so her "change" into taking it seriously doesn't come off as clearly as it should, because it already seemed like she was serious about it. She's doing the same thing she always did until she gets the artist's block - which is where I am right now.
>>488138506I don't want to say much more, since it's your first time through, but I'll keep reading your blogposts if I see them. For context though, which other routes did you finish?
>>488107451This is my main issue with Rin's route, I feel like act 3-4 drags so much her autism that it just gets annoying, act 1-2 did a better job building her character, she was weird but not autistic. It still funny to me that Aura gets pissy when people genuinely ask if Rin was autistic or not.
>>488140868Rin seemed to have a personality change from when you first meet her. I prefer her alpha route for this reason; her personality throughout is more consistent with act 1
>>488140054Only Lily and Hanako's ages ago so I don't remember too much. Went through common again and jumped straight into Rin now.Might do Shizune's later and then check the Hanako route before the final changes.>blogpostsI'll continue on /vn/ with the !L7/xYez2oE trip, you can just ctrl + f for it per thread, probably gonna squeeze a few posts later tonight. I'll post the next big summary here aswell though, but likely it'll be at the end of the route.>>488140868>>488141143Yeah that's exactly how it feels.>autisticShe felt like a textbook case of aspergers, I know one and she was "annoying' me the exact same way he was, pretty impressive as long as it lasted.Everytime I hear of the alpha scenarios they just seem better lol Is her alpha route different enough to not feel like a reread? Might go for it at some point if so.
>>488142146>Is her alpha route different enough to not feel like a reread?It's been quite a while since I've read the alpha routes, but I believe acts 2 and 3 were different, and I was happier with the route overall.
Second favorite Katawa girl?
>>488145023Shizune or Emi, depending on the day
>>488139704What I'm understading is that you feel like the subject of the story is not bein developed in a meaningful way because of the writer, is that so? It's fair enough then. Maybe you need to finish the whole story to get the most out of it. Have fun!
>>488142146>she was "annoying' me the exact same way he wasThat's a good thing, right? That her writing was so realistic in that sense?>>488145023Lilly. Hot as all hell and super nice, but too boring and focused on family/social pressures to be herself
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>>488139704I have similar sentiments to you regarding Rin's route. The early sections were nice because it felt like I was talking and bantering with my autistic friend. The later acts seem to wallow too much in the sort of weird atmosphere they set up a bit in the earlier parts of the story, but it felt there was no direction or real purpose in it. The author just didn't really know what to do and the romance felt super weird and out of place.I will say, though, that the "depression" Hisao was feeling isn't entirely contrived. It's a sort of weird self-inflicted depression that I saw a few times in others back in high school, especially with art kids, weirdly enough. It stems from self-confidence issues and a comparison of oneself to others that makes one feel as though they're at a standstill and rotting away, regardless of if they're actually struggling in school, their hobbies, etc. It's annoying in writing, though, because even in real life it is kind of annoying to deal with. I think they could have shown him struggling more in other aspects of his life and handled his depression a bit differently, as the way it's written in the story is very much "tell, don't show", unless you count the ludonarrative of you only getting Rin's route by being apathetic enough to somehow avoid every other girl's route despite the opportunities afforded to you. Actually, on that note, Hisao DOES skip out on exercising, joining the student council, and has no real hobbies, so maybe it's not entirely within his head that he's just sort of coasting along...Rin's route definitely feels like the one where Hisao grows the least, and while a flawed character can be good, it's not explored in any super interesting way because the writer tried to maintain the status quo for so long. Something like Emi's route feels nice because Hisao realizes he's become a bit apathetic and works to measurably improve his life, and he actually grows past his trauma instead of just wallowing.
>>488152136I realized I ranted here a bit, but the point is that Rin's route felt like it promised something interesting in the start, then didn't go anywhere and just sort of wallowed aimlessly in the latter half. This could have worked depending on how it ended, with something like Hisao realizing he's living vicariously through Rin after some big confrontation and both characters leaving happier after deciding to pursue their own path in life instead of lingering in the weird, codependent relationship they created. The neutral ending is closest to this, which is why people actually say it's better than her good ending, which I agree with.Anyways, Rin is overrated, fight me.
>>488149193proof?
>>488156084
>>488158115oh shit Master of Romance achieved
>>488158115Kek I can't wait to see how passive aggressive he gets when naming achievements. mainly regarding the bad reputation of Hanako's route.
>>488152136It's not that the depression is unrealistic, just subpar portrayal- I didn't get the sense that he's truly depressed - by the end of ch.2 I was a bit surprised how much of a deal they made out of it when it felt like he was just thinking things through and slowly getting there, not like an actual issue he was suffering from.>coasting alongI dunno, he's joined the art club and tried to put effort into getting gud, was also pretty proactive with Rin.>showing itHim giving up on art cause he sucks at it and being slightly sadder and more conscious of how short his life'll be would have helped. Needed a "what's the point if im gonna die anyway" outburst of sorts with Rin (and possibly Emi) helping him out with the sorta "doing the impossible" approach. Maybe portraying him as more apathetic with Emi/drawn back when she's around and contrasted with Rin more, since he had to be proactive with her or they'd never talk.>romance felt super weird and out of placeIt kinda works when it happens and its pretty plausible that they'd develop feelings for each other, but ye it's going in circles more than it should be.>>488147667Yeah more or less just thoughtdumped on the writer not being able to draw the full potential, feels like he set a very ambitious goal but couldn't quite reach it. Got stuck in a very weird spot between great and bad writing
>>488152603>fight meOkay.The later sections seem purposeless and directionless because it is a reflection of Rin and Hisao's life, it is a deliberate choice on the author's part. Everything is very well spun in its plot and all the scenes have a purpose to show you the awkward relationship between the two.About Hisao's depression, this may be where I disagree the most. Hisao is comparatively much worse in Rin's story than in the rest of the stories. As you rightly say he doesn't do anything he would do with the rest of the girls that would allow him to improve, and not only that, but he'd rather try to support Rin than himself because of this self-loathing you mention. It's also the only one of the stories in which he answers Iwanako's letter. It is the one in which he falls the lowest, because he has hooked up with a girl who is worse off than he is. That's why at the end of the good ending it feels like it's the beginning of their relationship. From that moment is where they are going to start to grow, they have been able to overcome their own traumas and then they can create a truly healthy and non-codependent relationship between them. They don't just fall in love and that's it, like in the rest of the routes. I would say that the growth of both Rin and Hisao is parallel, sometimes one pulling on the other to keep moving. It's hard and they drag each other down into misery quite a bit, and that's what I personally like about them.About Emi's route, it's a bit more of a classic love story and maybe it's more generalist and basic couple getting to know each other, going through problems and ending up better in the end, that's why people tend to like it more. It's pretty good, it's my second favorite after the obvious one. But even comparing both routes, Hisao is not the same at the end of Rin's route as he was when he entered Yamaku, not by a long shot. About Rin's neutral route I can't say anything, I only admit the end where they end up together.
>>488158863>tried to put effort into getting gud, was also pretty proactive with RinCall me an asshole here, but it really didn't feel like he put in a lot of effort into things despite him saying he'd push to be a different person. He didn't really go anywhere with his attempts at art, and most of his efforts with Rin were trying to live through her while he did nothing to improve his own situation. It felt like he needed to take agency to improve his own life first before meddling with Rin's, and the story didn't really do a great job handling the fact that he was living through Rin instead of himself.>>488159054>purposeless and directionless because it is a reflection of Rin and Hisao's lifeThis may just be an issue because of my personal taste, then. I've never been a super huge fan of works that focus on depression since it's not an issue I've really experienced, and because of that I see a lot of the circular sort of writing as needless wallowing even if it is a genuine depiction of the mental state of someone in such a situation.>It's hard and they drag each other down into misery quite a bit, and that's what I personally like about them.I can see where you're coming from here, and that is a good interpretation of the story, but I feel like the execution is lacking compared to a story like Heathers (the movie) with a similar sort of "two damaged people dragging each other into hell with their relationship" plot. It didn't seem to me that Rin was really dragging Hisao down, but rather he was dragging her down and himself down by how he was handling their relationship.I don't dislike Rin's story, but it feels like it ended in a weird place and could have had a more clear direction in the end. I still think it is one of the better routes, it just feels like it has the most missed potential, compared to a good but not outstanding story like Emi's route.
>>488162091I wouldn't say he lived through her, he was just .. doing nothing - watching, admiring, chilling.It's not like he was putting in serious effort, but he did show up to paint and managed to improve. You don't just randomly start painting everyday if you're not good at it - it takes effort just to do it - that doesn't really line up with depression.But yeah it's the core of my complaint on how it's handled, that he decides this, but nothing is done about it. Nothing changes besides the subject of Yamaku and his arrythmia being dropped from the route. Grabbing the bad end right now and he does at least consider his future for a bit earlier, but yeah.
>>488162091I always felt like Hisao was a real jerk.
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>>488165001and that's why the neutral ending is the best. Rin doesn't need that shit
>>488165001That's the crux of how I interpret Rin's route, and while having a jerk/flawed MC isn't inherently bad, it has to be handled in an interesting way. At the very least it should be acknowledged, either by the protagonist themselves as they look back on their past actions or by others as they tell the MC to piss off. It just felt like Hisao was a jerk and then... not much came of it except for the big fight at the end.>>488166208And this is why I like the neutral ending the best. It's the one that recognizes that Hisao may have been in the wrong.
>>488162091>since it's not an issue I've really experiencedFair enough. I'm more of a C-PTSD guy and maybe I see myself too much reflected in being deee in the hole. It resonates with me somehow.>It didn't seem to me that Rin was really dragging Hisao down, but rather he was dragging her down and himself down by how he was handling their relationship.I also agree here a bit. Rin would be hopeless without Hisao, she can't even understand what she feels or think about a cloud. But with Hisao she has the need to endure the fight with herself, to change for the better, for Hisao. And the way she handles the relationship also fucks with Hisao's brain, I think in Rin's route is the only image of only Hisao, when he's looking at himself on a mirror. Of course, the mirror represents Rin herself. Also remember that Hisao helps Rin to "destroy herself" or something like that with the cigarrets scene. There is it true that is Hisao the one dragging her down, but it takes two to tango.
>>488166987>Rin would be hopeless without HisaoI disagree, Rin doesn't need Hisao as much he needs her, he's the one that constantly needs to see her on Act 3 and starts screaming at her like a manchild because she's too busy with her art
>>488167571Okay, HIsao's a bitch. But in Emi's route, Rin enters the room when they're fucking and she didn't even noticed because she was looking at a cloud. She doesn't have meaning in her life and always does what others tells her. As I said before I didn't read the neutral or bad ending, but it is clear to me that she's lost without him trying to understand her. She has no one besides Hisao, because he's the only one not to understand her, but to care enough to try to understand her. Man, being an ESL sucks when I try to talk about things.
Good morning /ksg/.
>>488169813mmm tummy
>>488169042>and always does what others tells herShe doesn't do the art exhibition on the other routes, so no, she's not always doing what others tell her to do>She doesn't have meaning in her lifewhere do you get this impression? because she's a "free spirit"? Rin does what she wants most of the time, this doesn't mean her life doesn't have meaning, she's not a poor girl who needs guidance on her life>I didn't read the neutral or bad endingThen read them, they are vital to understand Rin as a character, especially the neutral ending
>>488147667my wife is such a faithful friend to my friend's wife
Lilly, my beloved.
>>488174687https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fk7JuqsQKV8
>>488176189I like to think she's got that A10 stare
>>488178985What does that mean?
>>488179153something about people with bright blue eyes making other people uncomfortable
>>488107570I'd be fine with it so long as there are still nipples
>>488107570I can't beat off to headpatting
The above post is fishing for someone to reply with the obvious, saying rape is less hot than headpats.
>>488107451>Looking back on the writing with how Hisao decided to get over his depression,This is definitely one of the route's weaknesses. Like, these two scenes are back-to-back:>And then I cried over my heart condition and left the old me behind forever>lololol Rin is on drugs and walking around in her underpantsI like both scenes, but still... Hisao's internal struggle gets swept under the rug after it seemed like it was going to be important at first.>it doesn't feel like much has changed with the forced drama (his botched confession at the start of attic arc) and things being slightly awkward because of it.I liked that. I think that tension kept me invested throughout the entire act. But I was already really attached to Rin by that point, and I didn't know the exact mechanics of how my decisions would influence the ending I got, so I felt the tension more strongly.>Rin hating change and making a decision to change is also.. weird.That's kinda the point, though, isn't it? She did something she found scary because she thought it would be worthwhile. Watching her think about it and reach a decision was interesting.>change's such a bad word for this/.Kinda. Kinda not. I mean, when you think about changing yourself into someone who can invest lots of time into something and then face judgement about it, you probably think about the difficulty of making that change, not the fact that it is change. So it's a fear that's hard to relate to - but that's kind of interesting in its own right. Ideally, it might make you wonder how she works. In practice, though... I didn't think about it much on my first read.1/2
>>4881916472/2>but in another it feels like things deliberately lag behind (Hisao's understanding of Rin) even though they shouldn't.Ehhh... I wonder if that one might be intentional. One of the central themes of the story is that Hisao needs to learn to love Rin even though he doesn't understand her. If he succeeds in understanding her, that theme loses its power. On the other hand, I think Rin is understandable enough most of the time that Hisao ends up looking like a dumbass.>Like he has no idea how to write it and has to drag the status quo out.>It feels like the writer's lost in the vague/weird atmosphere he set up too much and it's spread from Rin onto the story.Not sure what you're getting at here. I never got any sense of either of these. If anything, I'd call the atmosphere "moody" or "grim." As for being dragged out... maybe it depends on your expectations.>She just doesn't say anything normal anymore, i.e "going in squares" just to avoid the normal "going in circles".Yeah, that's kind of obnoxious, but it's present in all four acts, IIRC. It just feels more forced and jarring once things start getting dark and serious in the atelier.
Honestly not much to add beyond what I've already said with chapter 3 going overboard with the autism.It truly becomes good again in the good ending, where the properly talking, slightly weird Rin comes back. That was fun. I really dunno what the fuck happened in ch.3 but that was a mess.>endingSo the way I understand it, she wanted to change for Hisao/so others can understand her, but rather than changing, she just had to accept and stop doubting herself - her own feelings and thoughts? The good ol "you have to learn to love yourself before loving others". As for Hisao all he really needed to understand her was to stop viewing her like some incomprehensible object and more like a human, which I suppose he does after she opens up about her worries.With the entire "change" arc and neutral ending I suppose she decided to pursue the wrong way of trying to be understood, through art and not through interaction. Thats pretty tragic imo, can't see it ending any other way than suicide - like the teacher's friend - once she finds out this won't work.I suppose the ch.3 fight and drama was because she gives up on talking to him and tries to become an artist so she can express herself? Telling him to wait till she can paint out her feelings? Maybe im overinterpretating.Think thats all unless im forgetting something.>>488169042>>488166987>>488159054I think you should just reread it, quite off in many ways.It's Hisao who gets inspired by Rin, he's the one worse off. He isn't exactly supporting Rin over himself, more like trying to follow her footsteps because he sees something in her. He never helps her "destroy herself" he just participates in it somewhat neutrally to keep her company. They don't really drag the other into misery either, they're both trying to improve throughout in their own ways and stumble a bit on the road.
>>488191647>>488191867>That's kinda the point, though, isn't it? She did something she found scary because she thought it would be worthwhile. Watching her think about it and reach a decision was interestingIt was more about her not changing at all, just taking part in the exhibition which led to her changing.Though having finished it I guess it was a change in her approach to human relations, to wholeheartedly pursue art over interaction.>I liked that. I think that tension kept me invested throughout the entire actThe drama itself was fine I just had an issue with how it began - could have been better like if she prompted him to do it somehow rather than him taking this weird plunge when she's focused on something else.>Hisao's understanding and what I meantIt's just that it went in circles, you'd expect him to start understanding her a bit more, he just seems "like a dumbass" as you put it during that arc. Nothing really progresses much. Justified/intended, though, to point out how wrong her art = understanding approach was.>atelier and autismIt feels like she stops talking at all during that arc, goes 200% autism mode stuck in her headspace. That kinda forced inhuman autismo is only present there, but as I said its justified by the story in the end so its okay'ish - makes the read less enjoyable but pays off once all's done.
>>488195482>>488195482oh and in terms of Hisao understanding Rin and the theme of learning to love her, that's not quite true.He couldn't understand her until she allowed herself to be understood - accepting herself as she is and her feelings as they are, so she can begin expressing them rather than stopping herself from saying things due to doubt and fear of a lack of total understanding. She mentions it when she cries in the classroom, pic rel with Hisao telling her later that total understanding isn't possible..I think pretty much the entire route save for act 2 is about her growth. Maybe I missed something about Hisao further on but it doesn't seem like he changes, only "change"'s that he realizes things about her in the true end.
>Rin will never give you a paintjob
Rin's route isn't as deep as you think it is
>>488201103Maybe not, but there's something to analyzing media and finding meaning in it even beyond the author's original intent. If it leads to introspection or genuine conversation, I don't see anything wrong with the English teacher mentality of finding meaning in the roof tiles. Besides, this is the least dead the general's been in a while.
>>488201347Ay. I'm new to /ksg/ since I only first played KS a few weeks ago, but I'm just happy to see this game getting love through this thread, and now the steam/itch releases. I'm happy it will come to even more people.
>>488201347>this is the least dead the general's been in a while.yeah and it's not because of Rinfags discussing Rin autism for the 4000th time
>>4882017904001th time.
>>488201103It's not her route that needs to be deep, if you know what I mean.
Has /ksg/ ever organized a communal re-read, e.g. a schedule with one route per week? Sort of like how /a/ does "storytime" threads where someone posts a manga chapter a day and everyone reads and discusses them together?I know I'm not the only one that's fuzzy on route details while reading the Rin discussion above, and the 4k + Steam events seem like a good enough reason to prompt one. Unless there's been one recently; I dip in and out of this general.
>>488201790If you wanted I could start talking about the mechanics of prosthetic limbs instead. I'd enjoy that very much, although I'm not sure if it would be that interesting to others.>t. emifag
>>488202389I think this would be a very neat thing to do with the upcoming Steam release. As a byproduct, we'd also be able to 100% the Steam release by the end of it for the achievements so we can show off to normalfags.
>>488202562It would definitely pull in people that have been keeping KS on their backlog, since they'd see it as a reason to prioritize playing it. I guess the Steam release is a good enough starting point, even though it seems like a poor way to experience it if all the lewdness is removed or something else is being changed about it. When is it due to release?And yeah, surely my normie friends are going to be super envious of my criplfuk cheevos
the steam release is just a publicity stunt since the only dev still clinging to ks has a different paid product he wants to advertise
>>488203383OH NO THEY GOT RID OF THE PORN THE GAME IS RUINED HOW AM I SUPPOSED TO ENJOY MY GAME WITHOUT MY PORN
>>488203383The Steam page says August 15. I see your point with the lack of sex scenes, but we could still encourage people to download the game proper if they can bear the technological challenge of downloading and running an exe.
>>488196512>He couldn't understand her until she allowed herself to be understood - accepting herself as she is and her feelings as they are, so she can begin expressing them rather than stopping herself from saying things due to doubt and fear of a lack of total understanding. She mentions it when she cries in the classroom, pic rel with Hisao telling her later that total understanding isn't possible..I can't believe I'm about to say this on the internet, but that is a very interesting thought. I'm gonna keep that idea in mind the next time I read her route.
>>488206313That would be great, but aside from regular VN consumers (who are used to patching, like how it goes with Nekonyan or Shiravune titles), the typical Steamfag is so useless that they can't even navigate to an install folder in order to run a game without their oh-so-important launcher.Aside from that, there's the idiots who live from their image and wouldn't want their friends to know they're playing the 4chan cripple game.But we'll see... perhaps the free price will encourage some to try it regardless.
>>488207997I don't really have any interest in Those Sorts Of People entering the KS fanbase, but the Steam release date seems fine to set as a launch point for the reread anyway, since the 4k landmark has come and gone
>>488206297the only good H scene is Shizune's second one
>>488210707Does she rape Hisao in this one or does he consent to being raped?
>>488166114Which girl(s) would be good duelists?
>>488211819It's when they rape each other on the table
>>488210707I wouldn't say the only good one, but it is easily the best.Too bad we missed out on a rooftop scene.
>>488213913Does Femji have a rooftop scene? does she have any h scenes?
>>488209808Same. I don't want any DDLCancer or FnFags getting in.
>>488185872Skill issue
>>488219727it's probably going to be way worse than thatgiven kenji and the whole debate over whether hanako was raped
>>488221734meanwhile, I was thinking it'd be no big deal until you said thatnow I'm worried
>>488219727Sorry grandpa, this game needs new blood, or it dies
>>488196674>start thinking about what a paintjob would involve>paint = painting = brush = soundingImagining was a mistake.>>488201103Unlikely it'd pile up enough coincidences to appear that way if it wasm't. Maybe I've put too much faith into the writer, but it feels intended and like something he'd be capable of given the route being well written for the most part. The alternative would be her route being plain bad, nonsensical and him suddenly having very uneven writing in ch.3, just not very plausible.More likely people are just media illiterate and retarded if im the first one making these assumptions. Won't know unless the OG writer confirms either way
>>488222893nta but I rather it die for good then whatever is about to happen in 2 weeks
Gonna be interesting watching what happens after the steam release. I feel like it wont change much, but there's that slim chance of going viral
>>488203383The lewdness is the least interesting aspect of the VN, to be honest with you family
>>488224828>I feel like it wont change muchI think it'll be this. That Gigguk video about KS a while back got over 2 million views but didn't seem to get many people to play it.>>488224153>>488224828I expect /ksg/ to be largely unchanged. Most of the new players will likely stick to the steam forums.
>>488225992You'll likely get a couple new schizos, but this place is gonna remain either dead or spiral into shitposting. It's a miracle it hit 4k
>>488223652>just imagine hardergod she's so retarded, speak like a fucking human being dammit
>>488222893>4000 ks threads>die
>>488228362it died like 5 times on the last three threads before the 4k so yeah, it can die
>>4882259922 mil? Then I can't see how the Steam release would change anything. Even to 1% as much as whatever his video did.>>488222893That's a straw man. No one said it wouldn't be good to get fresh blood. The point is to be selective, though. The trick is always in how to grow a community without bringing in the mentally katawa'd individuals.
>>488223652A paintjob is when BTGR uses black paint for titty-fucking lube.It sounded like a good idea when she thought of it.
>>488224389Goodnight anon.
>>488231145It would probably work with oil paint.
>>488170527>She doesn't do the art exhibition on the other routes, so no, she's not always doing what others tell her to doThe decision between neutral and good ending happens in the middle of the art exhibition.>where do you get this impression? because she's a "free spirit"? Rin does what she wants most of the time, this doesn't mean her life doesn't have meaning, she's not a poor girl who needs guidance on her lifeAs a character yes, she is. She specifically says that she just paints to be understood, or that she goes along with Emi because she's nice to her, or that she thinks about the art exhibition just to please Nomiya. She's not living for herself and she can't understand why. No ambition whatsoever, and she suffers a lot without having an explanation for it. That's a life without meaning.>Then read them, they are vital to understand Rin as a character, especially the neutral endingMaybe in the future. My tender heart couldn't handle it right now.
>>488194279Hisao gets inspired by whatever girl you choose and tries to mimic the girl's way of coping, and they both grow in a parallel way (except Shizune lol), that's the pattern in this game. The thing is that Hisao forgets about school, about other girls, about his health, all of it to be with Rin. I understand that as puting her first before himself.>He never helps her "destroy herself" he just participates in it somewhat neutrally to keep her company.Well, in the scene where she's humping the floor in the dark I see a destroyed person. For me, that girl was on her lowest point.>They don't really drag the other into misery eitherYeah, you're right. Maybe I was being too melodramatic there.
>>488229753Anime youtuber doesn't have the same convincing power a new steam release does. Especially a free one
>>488235603He doesn't forget about his health for Ron's sake. He wouldn't exercise regardless of her. He doesn't forget about school as his grades don't suffer and he considers university. As for other girls he stays friends with Misha, Shizune and Emi. He just doesn't mesh with them/pursue them, that's not the same about forgetting someone - he just never cared/liked them enough.Besides, he puts himself first by rejecting her cause of her selfishness, it's like you've read a different story.>humpingYeah and how is he involved in the destroying process here? He visits her cause he's worried and then hugs her and helps her. He's just a neutral participant to her whims, if he helps her destroy herself it's only through being used as a tool by her towards that goal, which isn't exactly accurate either.>mimicking way of copingIt was admiration here and iirc he felt the same/similar way towards Lily in her route. Don't remember enough to have a solid opinion on it though
>>488233089>She specifically says that she just paints to be understood, or that she goes along with Emi because she's nice to her, or that she thinks about the art exhibition just to please NomiyaThat's not the only reason for her painting - she gets the idea of expressing herself through it because it's "the only thing she does well" - the only thing she has some confidence and pride in. Her painting came before her effort to be understood through it.As for Emi it's not like she would go along with anyone who's nice, they like each other but not in the sort of best friend/soulmate way where Rin can talk to her about things. Its like someone you enjoy spending time with but ain't super close. Like you might talk to your parents but ain't going to try and make them understand you and talk about deep shit.Nomiya pushes for the art exhibition but being an artist is something Rin herself considers as she knows she has to change, it's just a matter of whether she's ready or not - she clearly isn't and pushes herself because of Hisao for a myriad of reasons.>she's not living for herselfHerself is the only thing she lives for, it's a pretty major point in her routeeh whatever actually, was gonna continue but its a waste of time if you're going to contradict the entirety of her route in this manner. 0 media literacy, re-read it.
>>488242147All right then. It was a lot of fun to contrast points of view, that makes us see how incredibly good her story is. Each of us has a totally different way of understanding the same story through our personality. Of course I will re-read it again!
>>488243628not the anon you initially responded to, mind you. I should have clarified that in the previous post>Each of us has a totally different way of understanding the same story through our personalityNo, you're misunderstanding, not understanding. Unless stupidity is a personality trait then sure I suppose.The freedom of interpretation isn't all-encompassing to the point where one could claim whatever regardless of validity.
>>488244240Okay, so you think that my take on the story missed the mark completely, and so my interpretation was off. I would also be frustrated with me if that's the case. Totally valid take, as I said before I will gladly reread the story again with this in mind.In the meantime let's all love Rin.
Ten cheevos!
Your votes were allocated and accepted.I hope I'm there for the end, at least.Do I do anything here? I try to help others whenever I can, but I don't know if anyone sees it.I wanna make some images for you guys, but I don't feel the love. There's no inspiration here.>>488253084Rest well, have nice dreams.
>>488264512Don't let the man tell you what your achievements are.I'm goin' for Cities Skylines 100%. It's not easy. It's actually suffering. But I'm gonna do it. For no reason other than to say I did it.Have pride in yourself, don't do things 'cause someone else told you to.
I love Lilly>>488264675
If you give up, I'm gonna kick your ass.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C99im3d6AyY
>>488216617One of the h scenes features a petit mort.
>>488264675
>>488270171I wouldn't normally say this is a genre I'm into, but this was a very nice track, thanks.
>>488282303They're smart, cute and funny
Ah fuck, I missed thread #4000...This place meant a lot to me many, many years ago, according to the file properties I saved most of the images in my KS folder in 2011, feels like a lifetime. I hope you cripple-fucking freaks make it to thread #5000
>>488285373You posting here and engaging with the thread is all that's needed to keep us going until then, anon. God bless.
>rerelease game>40% of routes are still irredeemable shitBravo Kojima
>>488295426I think that the worst route (Shizune) is whatever-tier, not shit.
>>488295936The worst route is Hanako's. Very sad when considering she's the best girl.
>>488300182Is that the general consensus? And what do you think makes it so bad? I played through for the first time a few months ago and I thought it was fine. Still second worst I guess, but in a tier well above Shizune.
>it's been 12 years>brogurt is still here samefagging to try and quell the demons in his headngmi
>>488301913General consensus it that it's underdeveloped due to rewrites, and it's kinda funny that Hanako arguably improves more on Lilly's route than her own. The guy you're replying to thinks it's the worst route because he believes Hanako was raped.
You guys yet liveEzcellennt
>>488305568Wait, there are people who don't understand it was a rape scene? Are they autistic or something?
>director thinks he can make a cheap grab for attention by rereleasing the same subverted route>backfires in every way, Hanako's route remains an infamous stain, his reputation doesn't improve whatsoeverKek
>>488309174Releasing it on Steam was like digging his own grave, people on that platform are much more likely to have relationships than /a/, so they'll see through his sad little defenses and diversions right away.I can't wait.
>>488300182>>488305568How good is her route in the alpha or whatever? Worth a read?
>>488301913>Is that the general consensus?it's the consensus between him, himself, and his own saltiness (by the way, he will reply to this post)most people find Hanako's route to be underwhelming, but Shizune's route seems to be the least popular, although Rin's is kinda polarizing tooalso, consensus is that the best girl is [my favorite], not [your favorite]
>>488313741Honestly, if you keep saying delusional shit (like it was "just" underwhelming, lol), you might get more than one person laughing at you. Make sure to keep checking.
>>488313741I remember having fun with Hanako's, but it's been so long maybe I should reread it, can't trust my teenage past self
>>488314359I mean, you're talking to a schizophrenic retard who repeated himself twice for no reason, if that helps.Generally replaying it is the best way to see how badly it was ruined, once you already know about the rape twist.
>>488314664you're all schizophrenic retards if you're posting in this thread, so yeah.
>>488314113he accidentally admitted he's hyperfixated on getting replies so he's probably going to continue repeating himself until he gets them. internet wisdom like not feeding the troll simply can't help us when dealing with mental illness like him.
>Katawa Shoujo>But it's a WWII POW camp and all the girls are guards
@Surikoinstead of defending yourself so much, just fix Hanako's route
>>488313741Yeah it's underwhelming that you only rape her once. They already wrote it to be an abusive relationship, Hisao should have simply kept doing it. As per his own description, it felt really good. Not like a woman's feelings matter.
>>488316972>this but they're the prisonersHogan's Heroes with cripl girls
>>488313741I didn't like Hanako's route for the most part, although I see a fair amount of people that say it's their favorite, so it seems to have a wide range. Probably not as wide as Rin's though. Shizune has very few fans, whereas a lot of people dislike her route, so I think on average you're right that she's the least popular.
>>488321902I think people often separate the quality of the routes from their katawa.Like Rin is my favorite katawa but I consider Emi to have the most well-done route. Most people agree that Shizune's route drags but I've seen a fair number of people who's favorite katawa is Shizune.
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>>488330590Hanako's alpha true route reminds me of Emi's. I would have liked that.
I drew Rin today as my daily drawing practice, maybe a Rin liker will get a kick out of it.
>>488334728I would think Rin likers would be used to getting kicked.
Is Hanako considered hot at all or is she purely cute?
Somebody post the hips.gif for that anon.
>>488334995nigga pls she's built like a brick shithouse
>>488334843Rin liker here, can confirm.
>>488334728she doesn't look particularly pretty
>>488334728What exact aspect of drawing were you practicing when you did it? As I understand it, practicing art is very much focusing on different parts until you can bring it all together.
>>488338640Accurate drawing, then.
Does that KS dev who defended Hanako's "route" still come by?
>>488344037What's wrong with the Hanako route?
>>488346181Nice way to lure him out, I love it.
ok /ksg/ be honest, will you gatekeep this game? because it is inevitable that people will play this game because its a crazy anime game that lets you romance amputees
>>488347779>will you gatekeep this game?how?
>>488328552What is this?
>>488349116Looks to be Emi taking flight despite the destruction of her lower legs, no?
>>488349226Thanks lens gave me nothing
>>488349116A symbolic picture of Emi showing her rising above her injuries and the death of her father both concepts represented by spirits placed where her prosthetics would be if they were reconnected to her legs through the dots.One is a ghost representing her father with a red border all the way around his spirit, the other is representing her as smaller than her dad with red only around her lower half.
>>488348154you can always pull the 4chan le bad site made le bad game
>>488349935Thanks again. Plus that is a super cute Emi. My second favorite girl
I played KS back in 2012 when I was basically still in my first year of highscool but only finished one route (Hanako), and actually dropped out soon aftershould I try playing it again now? or am I going to make myself feel depressed for the rest of the weekmy only fear is that I'm going to realise how little have changed and how insecure I still am after in all these years, even though I've actually managed to get myself a gf/got laid/whatever ultimately unfullfilling nonsense in-between
>>488363620>got a gf>got laidYou're already leagues above most anons, I'd say... including myself, just became a wizard last year
>>488364854Do you become a wizard at 30 or just 30 years after you last had sex?
>>488349935>Emi's favorite color is blue>Emo's favorite color is blew
>Last post over 2 hours ago>Thread is still aliveWhat in the god damn?
>>488367345Goodnight anon.
>>488379338don't question it
>>488383707I really hate this image
>>488387896not a fan of rolled sleeves?
Lilly's beautiful, useless eyes.
>>488379338Sleepy hours
live
arise my general
Music re-releasehttps://x.com/MateriaColl/status/1818315801604112619
AI remake when?
>>488420048I actually plugged the KS script into an openAI model to see what it would make. The results were less than stellar when it came to recalling events but I noted that the narrator would "realize" Hanako is a survivor, with a more respectful tone, like it thinks she's cool.I got this behavior most often on the "Professional Writer" setting that was itself trained on outputs from the other settings, to optimize the numbers in the backend. So you kinda have the obvious answer: a good writer would have made a smarter protagonist.
>>488418093What changed that would make him do this
>>488363620Of course we're going to say you should play it. It's more inspirational than depressing, arguably even you fail act 1. Plenty of good ideas and life lessons in there. If you think you're that susceptible to being emotionally thrown off by it, just slow down the pace at which you're playing it.
>>488422809Interesting but I meant remake on the artistic part, drawings, backgrounds, etc.
>>488429614Steam release probably
>>488448312Good morning, I love her sister
Imagine Lilly cosplaying as the fire keeper from DS3.
>>488454869>fire keeper from DS3.I just googled that. Pretty sure I've seen an Image of Lilly like that.
>>488455427I know, it sounds like a perfect idea
>>488418093Well, that's a nice surprise. I thought NicolArmarfi went full disownership and didn't want the KS association anymore.
>>488457689He realized the steam release might look good o his resume if it does well.He can go back to pretending it doesn't exist if it goes badly.
Goodnight /ksg/, its shaping up to be a quite a year for ks!
>>488459757Goodnight anon.
Visitor here, you guys excited about the steam release? I mean, its not new content or anything. But its still great news for the game and a nice happy ending to it.Last I played it was 12 years ago.Got the best ending to the Emi route, and felt very attached. Although I played the game well after release, I went into it mostly blind.>Oh, a 4chan game about dating disabled girls? Oh brother kets see what this is all aboutSo the impact on me was the same when I saw how well written and emotional it was. I think I did Lilly's route as well, I remember parts of the other routes but I dont think I finished them all.Regardless, Im looking forward to replaying Emi's, doing every other route, and getting the achievements.
>>488464847I haven't played the game since release so I think I'll use this as an excuse to finally get around to re-reading it.
>>488464847Yeah! I'll probably only download the game just to replay Lilly's route again
>>488456542>>488455427There are a few DS images on the booru.
>>488464847>Visitor here, you guys excited about the steam release?Personally, no - it doesn't affect me much, so I'm just indifferent to it>Regardless, Im looking forward to replaying Emi's, doing every other route, and getting the achievements.Never been one for cheevos, and I can read it just fine without steam getting involved, so... eh
>>488418093Awwww yeeeaahhh, can never have enough KS musical arrangements
>>488468652I love Rider. I don't care if she's a gigantically tall freak.
>>488479461After not thinking about KS for years, I was reminded of the game by this meme edit of that image. But I gotta say, the original is kinda stupid. Who the fuck takes a photo with someone's head half out of frame? I get the point they're trying to make, but it just looks a bit stupid.
I cry every single time I listen to Romance in Andante. I can't help it.
>>488489538i've been needing a good cry lately and it's been at the back of my mind, but i'll probably at least wait till the weekend so i don't throw a wrench in my work week
>>488489538For me it's lullaby of open eyes
>>488501945Goodnight anon.
>>488489538That's Raindrops and Puddles for me.
If KS girl would be the jobber?
>>488493235I haven't cried in years. It's a bad thing, probably.
>>488379338
>>488481859my wife isn't a freak
>>488523775She's Meduseless
>>488524004I'll only say this, if I were Shinji I would treat her better
>>488524170Shinji was a fucking idiot.But then again he got to rape Sakura AND Medusa so he must've been doing something right.Rider and Caster are my favorite girls from F/SN.
>>488524324>>488468652sexo>>488464847>replaying and doing every other routeSame. Though I got into it a few weeks too early without even knowing about the release. Hopefully steam accepts saves and grants achievements so I dont have to CTRL.
>>488173889We're both lucky to have them in our lives, friend.
Goodnight /ksg/
cripl?
Purple cripl pat.
I prefer bloods
long dark hair is so damn hot
>>488547691this but with long blonde hair
>>488554298only if you have no taste
>>488554868rude...
>>488464847Who the hell is publishing it? I thought most of the people went their seperate ways. And will it have h-scenes?
>>488555223Sex scenes come in an unofficial patch. Suriko's taking it carefully with Steam's lewdness policies.
Crip lova!
>>488537273Words cannot describe how much I adore Emi
>>488512984I hadn't cried in years up until the beginning of this year and now I cry really easily at anything that makes me happy or sad, probably will for some time
the hanako rape scene is the reason KS can't be uploaded to steam in its complete form
>>488572316>when you're so obsessed with destroying a character's route that you won't revert it 12 years later, even for the sake of the entire gameI could tell Suriko was fucked up in the head, but it seems like his mental health has plummeted even further since release
>>488547691>>488554298most hair is hot, let's face it
>>488537273>Welmao, they're hisao's wives you cucks
>>488572316>>488574062Sing for me. Sing the autism song.
>>488574062it just fits so perfectly that the writer of the worst route is the most attached to the IP, most likely due to having zero other successes in his lifetime.
Comfort me, anon.
>>488583389*hug*WAS THAT SO FUCKING HARD, HISAO?
>>488574062It could be worse!He can always troon out
>>488578191Who the fuck is Hisao? Your wife's bull? Anyway don't project your degenerate cuck fantasies onto others you fucking Canadian.
>>488587402cope, Hisao fucked your wife
>>488583389*pat* *pat* *pat*
>>488582935>be parasite>attach to other projects that presumptively have weaker music and art>or with none at all>shoddy writing is either spurned or ignored, every time>slither back into your most successful hostI mean, yeah? All parasites behave like that.
>Your Katawa is real and loves you>She's her still original KS ageBUT>You're married to your least favorite Katawa, you have one child>You're both in in your 40sDo you walk the line?
>>488590805All the Katawas are great, so I don't mind. KS milfs would be even better, so yes I will walk the line
>>488590805>Shizune or RinI mean, I would still be happy
Hi ksg. I think I'm the only recent namefag still around these days. Just posting to let you all know I love my wife Lilly.
>>488590805>You're both in your fourties.>Implying I'm not already there.
>>488590805>You are married to an autistic redhead MILF who gives you footjobs and you have a child you love and cherish, but oh no, a college girl who happened to be your taste two decades ago exists and she is in love with you. What do you do?Stupid question.
>>488594790KS is set in a high school. Did you even play the game?
>>488594959My Katawa is 19, technically making her college-age. Plus if I said high school girl it would be weird.
>>488595447The best thing about high-schoolers is that no matter how old you get, they stay the same age.
>>488595751Boomer Akira was something I never knew I wanted, but I'm glad I did.
>>488590805>lilly 18 >me 20yeah ok i guess
>>488590805>have to break Lilly's heartI can do it if Rin's art is paying all the bills
>>488593898hi BasilI only rarely use mine, sometimes when I'm doodling.
