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We're gonna be positive this thread!
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I forgot to organize the tournaments by date. Just kill me. Also one of us has to make a new pastebin for the older vods since belials cock scared away that one anon.
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PLLLLLLLLFFFFFRPFFPFFFBBFBFBBBBFBB
*PLOP*

New granpoo patch just dropped
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put medusa in the fakken game
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>>488188107
Is that what that smell was?
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Nier/Seox/Belial/Sieg will be just fine on August 20th. Why do I know that? They didn't get an emergency patch. Luci will destroy the game's meta with his sword buff.
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For real now, Bubs is what all characters should -STRIVE- to be/ the power level all characters should aim for.
Bubs has strong tools, but you can't just mindlessly spam them because they have clear weaknesses and counterplay, so you have to be mindful of all the tools at your disposal and use them properly.
Karma is a good tool. It can nullify projectiles, you can pressure reset with it or just threaten them with it, if you're cornered and you get a CH fH you can cancel it into karma and take the corner for yourself, you can mix LH Karma and M Karma to throw off their timing. and of course, with meter you can set up a low damage unblockable for 25% meter and it deals a good bit of damage if it hits airborne enemies.
But it also has weaknesses, it can be easily jumped over, rolled through and generally stuffed (like when you pull someone but they pressed fL during the pull so instead of CHing them, they CH you). All in all, you need to know how to utilize it.
The same principle above goes for pretty much every tool bubs have, but of course I'm not gonna list them all because I'd hit character limit lol
And bubs also has varied combo routing, his routes change a lot depending on what you have available and you need to know how to play around it. Also that makes it so that you don't run into the Belial situation where he has one fucking combo and it's boring as shit watching him play.
I thought Bea would be like Bubs due to the delta clock but she's closer to Belial in that regard.
And finally, Bubs has bad resourceless midscreen conversions and corner carry, but they can get very respectable when you invest your resources into it. I don't want all characters to play the same, but IMHO this is what Granblue is, or should be about, weak resourceless midscreen, respectable midscreen with resources, scary corner resourceless and terrifying with resources.
Thanks for reading my blog, subscribe for more bubs posts
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>>488188432
two irrelevant buffs doesn't make a bottom 5 character good
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>>488187793
Will do anon!
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>>488187793
Because you posted this I will now be positive and I won't shitpost even once.
I'll just report and ignore the shitposters, vanillaschizos, namefags and off topic spammers
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>>488188432
Well deserved.
He SHOULD make you feel terrified of fighting him.
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>>488189117
So, the same as Eustace. Characters that have tools that while strong also have weaknesses, poor midscreen damage and situations unless you invest resources.
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>>488190017
Whiny faggot. The game is shit, has been shit for nearly 9 months, yet you still feel oblige to defend it? Goddamn, you slurpers have zero standards whatsoever it seems.
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>>488187793
Based.
I already have a lot of fun playing Rising, most of the time anyway.
I have reason to believe the bit meaty will improve the game, even if only slightly, so by then I will likely enjoy it even more.
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>>488190274
Eustace can also get pretty creative with his combo routing, yes? Besides the meme tight couch confirm corner to corner
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I'm yanking that Cag image over here because it was really cute
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>>488190746
there are many cute cags
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>>488190019
I don't fear your gay demon
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its cute how shartniggers deluded themselves into thinking 66l spam is less degenerate than a metered resource such as drive gauge
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Stop it...
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which nier pro is gonna get exposed for being a fraud after august 20?
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>>488191263
All of them assuming the nerfs are enough
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>>488191263
Zippy
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>>488190704
Yes and I don't even play the character, it's just from the stuff that halloween Eustace anon posts and seeing him play.
>>487980983
For example, when he wrote up that giga wall text for getting some anon started with Eustace he mentioned that one of Eustace's weakness is that he can't launch you in the corner easily without using resources.
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>>488190746
I'm yanking it to cag
not really, knowing she's actually an egotistical old man on the inside killed any lust I have for her
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>>488191263
None, you said this before the DP nerf too
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>For real now, Bubs is what all characters should -STRIVE- to be/ the power level all characters should aim for.
>Bubs has strong tools, but you can't just mindlessly spam them because they have clear weaknesses and counterplay, so you have to be mindful of all the tools at your disposal and use them properly.
>Karma is a good tool. It can nullify projectiles, you can pressure reset with it or just threaten them with it, if you're cornered and you get a CH fH you can cancel it into karma and take the corner for yourself, you can mix LH Karma and M Karma to throw off their timing. and of course, with meter you can set up a low damage unblockable for 25% meter and it deals a good bit of damage if it hits airborne enemies.
>But it also has weaknesses, it can be easily jumped over, rolled through and generally stuffed (like when you pull someone but they pressed fL during the pull so instead of CHing them, they CH you). All in all, you need to know how to utilize it.
>The same principle above goes for pretty much every tool bubs have, but of course I'm not gonna list them all because I'd hit character limit lol
>And bubs also has varied combo routing, his routes change a lot depending on what you have available and you need to know how to play around it. Also that makes it so that you don't run into the Belial situation where he has one fucking combo and it's boring as shit watching him play.
>I thought Bea would be like Bubs due to the delta clock but she's closer to Belial in that regard.
>And finally, Bubs has bad resourceless midscreen conversions and corner carry, but they can get very respectable when you invest your resources into it. I don't want all characters to play the same, but IMHO this is what Granblue is, or should be about, weak resourceless midscreen, respectable midscreen with resources, scary corner resourceless and terrifying with resources.
>Thanks for reading my blog, subscribe for more bubs posts
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Speaking of zippy did he not go to evo or did he drown in pools.
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>>488191173
no... don't make the jeeter sad...
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>>488191581
he didn't go
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rising would unironically be better if they just scrapped all of their dogshit system mechanics and 1:1 ported sf6's mechanics

grriiiiiim
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ZOI!
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>>488191173
Why cant they just be nice...
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>>488191849
niiiiiirrrr
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>>488191487
cag has been a little girl for 2000 years and before that was a little boy. that is lustable to me.
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>>488192270
thank you
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>>488191549
If we had gotten that instead of the faglial skin I would shill it so hard I would be able to take out 100 composters with my bare hands
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>>488188107
Even if they completely fucked everything away it would not be even a 10th as bad as the Granblue gacha.
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Post your personal patch 1.50 wishlists

My Narmaya wishlist:
>g236L fireball being even on hit instead of having negative oki
>g2L having decent range
>ONE (1) good midscreen conversion that doesn't involve j.k214H (like every other shoto)
>5U not triggering on clashes
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>>488192589
>Post your personal patch 1.50 wishlists
Nerf 66L and bring back GBVS neutral
Oh wait, it was unchanged in the EVO demo :)
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>>488192589
66l removed from the game
if not i will continue to have 10 bot accounts afking low rank / casual queue and kill off any chance of this game ever getting players
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>>488191549
I agree with everything in this post
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>>488192589
Make 2H unblockble or make Gee gee recover a little faster so I dont get 66L'ed into full combo, alternitively nerf 66L so you cant full combo I guess.
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>>488192589
My character got featured in the trailer but even before that I didn't have much I wanted changed specifically to him
I want general changes
Ultimate skill scaling and more unsafe
66L adjustments
Slowdown on BC evade
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>>488193067
It was funny how people were raving about the 66L nerf and when the patch hit the only thing I noticed was that I had to do 66L > M autocombo instead of L autocombo because of the mi or push back and SOMETIMES it doesn't take if I hit them at the very edge of the hurtbox.
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>>488193067
>Make 2H unblockble
I'll never understand this. Making 2H unblockable would turn Ferry into a top tier overnight, because that thing is huge. It's the only real gap in her defense she has as a zoner.
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>>488192589
>nerf 66L, Ult Skill, and BC
>minor buffs to cag, metera, maybe vane if the homos promise to be nice
>larger buffs to ferry
>gut nier
>hang siegfried
>stomp on seox' corpse
>kill beatrix with a shotgun to the face
>smaller nerfs to Belial, Lancelot, 2B
>nerf djeeta 214H corner carry but you can compensation buff her 5U
>decrease BP penalty
>increase stage size
game is now balanced and still rewarding of good play while not being a carbon copy of vanilla because that is a pipe dream unfortunately.
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fuck
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>>488192589
>improve Charlotta's 5U or replace it with something actually useful
>super spindash is armored like Soriz
>or just genral improvements to super move utility outside of combos
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scamaya is the ultimate "let retarded niggers think they're actually good" character
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>>488193814
>hes not a 1.1%er
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>>488193814
i'm sorry, i should have listened to the kyot
i guess i'll have to wait for the new mode in august for that one
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>>488195332
It's nyever too late...
Queue for Grand Bruise right meow.
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>>488195332
wyell wyell wyell
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>>488154441
>>488157239
>>488159617
as always
look on the bright side
at least we aren't...
strive
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>>488196638
at least their game is better than ours
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>>488196754
In some aspects it is.
But overall? No, not really.
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>>488196638
Why won't they stop with their drama?
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>>488197029
Overall, yes really. Luckily I can enjoy two things.
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>>488187584
>OP version can't be found anywhere else
>"To Bread" is missing

mmmmh
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>>488197271
Good for you.
I too enjoy Strive, there are just many more characters I like in Rising so I end up playing it much more often.
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>>488197439
bro... it has a literal pixiv filename and 4chan x links to the exact post
https://www.pixiv.net/en/artworks/120998991
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>>488196754
>>488197029
To pretend Strive does everything wrong is of course dumb, but what does it do better than grub?
I like RC, it is a very fun and versatile system
I guess FD is okay?
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>>488197959
literally everything better than sharting
better than OG? nothing, really.
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>>488197578
i've failed as a detective
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>>488197490
I didn't meant it subjectively anon, but objectively. Strive does what it set out to do well, be a simple and streamlined anime game. Rising just piled a bunch of systems on game that was intentionally designed to be incredibly simple and beginner friendly. And I will never forgive them for killing the RPG aspects and Tower of Babyl.
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sharting should really be studied and analyzed, it's rather incredible how they managed to turn such a solid base game into... whatever the fuck sharting is supposed to be
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>>488198142
OK, cool.
I still have more fun with Rising, not sure what you want me to tell you.
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Ggs anon, my cat tripped on my ethernet lol.
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>>488198367
you'll get out of B ranks soon don't worry buddy
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>>488198367
Tell me I'm right.
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>>488197959
I like the wallbreak mechanic
An offset to how strong wall combos and corner carry are in this game would be a blessing.
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>>488198472
NTA but I'm master, when does it stop being fun?
and I don't even play a top tier
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need Ilsa to fart on my dick
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>>488198624
Tell me I'm right.
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>>488196638
>lolicon culture is... le unacceptable!
I'd like to see what happens if they come after Xerom
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>>488198602
The wallbreak mechanic is such a poor band-aid on this "problem". Once you've gotten wallbroken, you've already lost the match for the most part anyway. Besides, a way to return to neutral already exists in Rising, it's called Brave Counter.
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>>488199076
>das gawdlike
>*eats charlottaburger*
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>>488197959
I guess, character diversity?
Now that I have a decent understanding of what each character in Rising can do, I no longer think they play similarly (like I did when I just started the game) but I still think the characters in Guilty Gear as a whole (even in Strive) are more distinct from one another.
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>>488198387
ggs thanks for playing
very serious matches
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>>488199076
i really don't know how they haven't gone after him yet.
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>>488199449
Yuel's new SSBA with Societte
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>>488199551
I mean it's pretty obvious but I don't think he outright stated it. But then again I don't use Twitter so who knows.
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>>488199449
SOVL
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>>488197959
Better defensive options
More interesting offensive options
More interesting playstyles
Less homogenisation
Better and more stages
Better input reader
No block button
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>>488199997
block button is a godsend for retarded 50/50s what are you smoking
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Is this a new vanillatard angle?
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every round of granpoo sharting plays out exactly the same
it is by far the most cookie cutter boring kusoshit i have ever had the displeasure of witnessing, there's a reason it has 10 viewers at any given time and even less players

watching paint dry is more varied and interesting than watching granpoo being sharted out onto your plate
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>>488200321
ok
bye
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>>488200396
Is that what you say to the dwindling playerbase, tranny?
wonder why the literal second granshart came on the mainstage at evo the viewcount dropped by 20k
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>>488200513
bye
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>>488200396
It's more productive to report and ignore m8
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so mindbroken you can only say one thing
tranny status: sharted
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>>488200119
>Invalidating cross-ups is good
No.
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Why does this guy download scat for shitposts and keep saying shart?
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>the illiterate tranny thinks you need to download pictures to crop and post them
loling
you granpood so long even your brain has turned to shart
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>>488200887
he's american please understand
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>w-were so back
>the patch will s-save us
>everyone was so h-hyped at evo....

every single streamer is a tranny vtuber btw
you're literally all the worst parts of strive but without even so much as a passable game to play
let it go, you lost.
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That's what i fucking thought, retard.
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OTOTOTO
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>>488199212
That is not entirely a good thing, there are downsides to that, and IMO I think it is more detrimental than positive but I'll give you this one because I think Granblue has too many shotos.
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*pops overdrive*

https://youtu.be/1ZfjB5P7RS0
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>>488201912
Thread saved
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>>488202726
He's just like me...
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>>488202726
this is the face i make when i ring males
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>>488202726
THIS makes fujos and gays go wild?
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>pander to twitter xheroids
>lose players instead of gaining any despite "OH MY GOD SO MANY TWITTER ENGAGEMENTS"
many such failures for trannyfighters everywhere
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>>488203279
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what is she playing
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all will be forgiven when they release pig in season 2
she'll get a microbikini costume too
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>>488192589
>don't touch 66l
>add slowdown on bc
>remove crouching buttons being able to tech throws
>make tapping guard button while downbacking a spot dodge
>buff ult skills on all weaker characters, and only nerf nier's
>make nier low tier, change her mechanics if you need to
>give an option to filter characters on casual matchmaking
>make sweeps universally extend hurtbox vertically so fLs don't miss
>nerf sieg sweep to not be special cancellable on second hit, and his damage
>nerf cag, 2b, lowain, vaseraga, ladiva, and the zoners
>buff abel, yuel, gran
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>>488202274
Imagine if overdrive came back, that would be great
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>>488204003
>remove crouching buttons being able to tech throws
honestly this is a good concession if they want to keep mashing throws badly
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imagine pigsex
that would be great
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I can't believe Pig is literally Rat's poop janny
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>>488204742
it would murder a cag knowledge check (j.22H) because people would be pressing c.5L for delay button tech instead of 2L, and c.5L beats j.22H in this scenario, and 2L whiffs and therefore loses, which is the source of the misunderstanding that cag j.22H beats delay button tech
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>>488202726
me when djeeta anus sniffa
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Can you guys explain why 30k people tuned out of evo's mainstream stage during granblue?

i was gonna pick it up but if it's that bad maybe not
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Oh oh I got this one!
*ahem*
SHYUT UP NYIGGER!!!
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>>488206158
no neutral
every combo on every character is exactly the same
there is no combo variation depending on what hit where, it is literally the same exact combo every single time anyone gets a hit on anything

it's just boring honestly, no loss if you skip it
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>>488206158
i see that you're switching it up a bit but you're still too obvious, try again tomorrow
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New granblue rising interview just dropped
https://youtu.be/_5jbnUkslCw?si=ahhJ3DX9TBXNabZC
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>>488193696
I missed this, I dont think she would be instant top tier, lots of characters can still bum rush her, it just gives her one more option to defend rather than relying on heavy dp and just having to stare at them like a cuck while they jump in again and its on cd.
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These hardmode sidequests are actually hard
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>>488207086
yeah they're pretty fun
i just wish we still had the grid...
i wanted them to expand on the rpg mode, not butcher it, though i understand why they did it
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>>488207386
*sharts on your RPG*
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>bikara announced for rising
>shits herself in the summer event
really makes you think... what are they trying to tell us?
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fuck off fear
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>>488208001
i fucked her ass too hard im sorry for that one
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>>488208040
why are you obsessed with this person
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>shitposters stop
>thread immediately dies
well, go on... aren't you troony toons gonna discuss the game?
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>>488207086
This one was actually pretty fun and the theme sounds great.
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>>488210892
i like baha's fight
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I found the Incredibles on twitter so I ended up watching that. Sorry for not posting tho.
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I want to go out with a Katapillar too :(
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>>488212330
that's vira's dildo
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I demoted to A1 and climbed back up to S3 today
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>>488212870
good job or sorry.
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>>488212870
when are we getting this costume?
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>>488213118
tomorrow
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Why do pink squares one and done me when I manage to win a game? Do they not like dark green squares or something?
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yep, it's startin to smell like the big meaty up in here
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>tfw you're waiting for someone to sit with you and play some sets in the lobby and suddenly a B rank pink squared Nier approaches
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>>488213424
either
connection
they just wanted to fuck around with some random character they don't play and then move on
they're frauds
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Pretty neat set up a Percival did to me in ranked the other day, you can DP it but if you having seen it yet you'll get full combod again.
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>>488214686
havent, i need more sleep.
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>>488214686
The percyGOD from this very general used to do this setup to me back in month 1 gwo
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>>488215152
Yeah I remember playing him a lot but rarely his perci, I got dicked down by his lance.
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>>488212330
Needed more scenes with Soriz and his nameless soldier bro.
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>>488202726
ive been waiting for these camera angles for gbvs is there more? i love when arcsys does this shit
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>>488213118
New paid costume for the big meaty
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>>488217461
>all this time "big meaty" just meant this homo's cock instead of balance changes to save the game
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>>488217772
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Zooey gets her swimsuit outfit, but she wears the skirt and it's a black void underneath
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>>488218316
I would be very mad
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He's not going to stop
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i hate ult skills
i hate 66l
i hate retarded meter gain
i hate borderline unreactable moves being safe
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>>488219685
*plrrlrppthhhhffffffffff......*
*plop*
*pffrrrrtrrpt*
yep, that's a granpoo alright
phew.
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haha imagine if charlotta U Ball can wallbounce
mid-screen even
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>>488219934
Your definition of mid-screen is funny.
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>>488219519
He really wants to share with us his fetishes in a strange way.
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>>488220363
Is this the kind of dignified demeanor one would expect from the Captain of the Lumiel Order?
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when are they posting the next change in 1.5 on twitter
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>>488215315
Is this player still around? Used to enter a lot of thread tournaments but I've not seen them around lately.
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>>488221165
he probably died from homoknight overdose
or maybe it was actually FKHR and he's been busy
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>>488221165
I have not seen him in like 2 months? Probably will return with the big meaty
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thats disgusting and i hate rising
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I'm gonna say the N-word de arimasu
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>>488223550
t-that doesn't sound pure or righteous...
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>>488223692
NOBURU!
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vanillatards everyone
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>>488223550
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>>488223692
NIGERO DE ARIMASU
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I remember the EVO showcase mentioning a survey. What happened to that? Was that just for attendees only?
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>>488224831
They sent one out to master rank players
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Will she survive the meaty or will they obliterate her despite having zero results because of her potential?
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>>488225269
i think at best she will get very small changes to adjust to the other characters getting buffs/nerfs
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>>488225269
I doubt she will be touched that much
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Zeta is a solid mid tier
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>>488225269
There will be no nerfs to the top tiers. It's been over a year and quite literally nothing has changed except for no more combo from Nier EX DP. And she's still SS tier.

That's it. That was the only change in the last year. The devs just don't fucking care.
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>>488225636
Wanna bet your anal virginity?
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>>488187793
Metera is HIV positive!
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>>488225757
I lost that a long time ago buddy
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>>488228020
Metera should apply debuffs with her attacks
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hi
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>>488229097
damn that ass can fart
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>>488228020
>>488229097
this is awakening something in me and im not liking it
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Did we pick up a schizo from /bag/ or something
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>>488230992
just vanillatard things
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the terror of BBC(big belial cock)
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I am going to queue for ranked during these, NEET hours.
Nothing could possibly go wrong.
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>>488221104
What do you mean, they already posted all the changes?
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>>488237939
ganbarre
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>>488239286
I ranked up de arimasu
Just one tier though, not like, a whole rank...
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>>488239578
das gawdlike de arimasu
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>>488199997
>Better input reader
>gets ch'd for trying to fd
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this nigga is your average gbvsger
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>>488241793
jin should be playable
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>>488241793
Sounds based to me.
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i saw a never-ever combo and wanted to try
>>488241793
jin is /ourguy/
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>>488243281
damn
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>>488243281
damn
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>>488243281
damn
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>>488243281
damn
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dont be mean to me....
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>>488245506
should have said damn...
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>>488243281
Is this a never ever because you need level 5 for the iscariot cd for the ender
Can't you just sub in U oki instead
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>>488245820
i think the whole ending doesnt work without level 5, i said never ever because i dont expect anyone to get hit crouching from a jump in in the corner while also being max blade level
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how is ladiva going to grab versusia
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>>488246832
Very gently.
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https://x.com/gbvs_official/status/1818226418482069723
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>>488248926
are these fucking clowns for real??
honestly they are hiding changes cause they 100% did jack shit that the players wanted
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>>488248926
ok
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>>488249032
They already showed all the major changes in the trailer, the rest will be just slight frame data adjustments that will ultimately do fuck-all.
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>>488248926
das gawdlike
add shiro nigga
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>>488249032
They already showed the Gran and Luci changes. What else do you people fucking want?
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>>488249326
was promised a big meaty
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the big meaty? belial's ballsack
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>like playing slow from a medium range
>all the top tiers are unga bunga rushdown monkeys i can't grow accustomed to playing
yay
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TIL if you draw the first round and the 2nd round you will go into a 3rd round thats the last one. Just fought a vane and we just stood there for all 3.
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See me in Robomi’s Epic Clash nigga
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>>488251085
Sieg is basically a shoto, he’s good at controlling space.
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This is more a post for /fgg/ or a general fighting game thread but I don't trust any other tranny playing other fighting games so I'll post it here instead.

I was watching Dilatephone and his video on 2XKO. I was midly interested in that game but then noticed something.

In GBVSR, there are tons of moments you make a prediction, like I don't know, use your DP on minus frames. Or when Charlotta uses her 214H on block, then she usually follows up with f.M and there you can DP her. But knowing this Charlotta can not use it at all and wait for you to DP and punish you for it. Or she can use something else entirely.
Some characters have 50/50 mechanics too. Charlotta, again, has one. But you can beat every option of it if you just DP for example and becomes a threat only if used as oki. Same for Sieg's Orkan, it's much stronger than the demon flip however some characters have universal options or tech to it.
Again, delayed 2L, kinda a meme because it's not invulnerable but it makes defending very consistent and it becomes your opponent's duty to deal with it.
You get it.

In a clip of Dilatephone's gameplay, a character corners another, does a overhead attack and immediately cancels that animation and does a low instead. Basically, forced 50/50. There's absolutely no way you can react to that.

So, here's my question if you ignored my entire wall of text:
is it normal for fighting games to have fucking retarded 50/50s you can't deal with and are entirely on your opponent's hands with absolutely no agency on your side? Sure, it's a reward for your opponent for getting you cornered, but HOLY FUCK if it looks like absolute cancer. How do you retards play that shit if the answer is yes?
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>>488252460
Post the clip
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>>488252460
i remember a post on /fgg/ saying that the 2xko dev team has some tranny kusoge hasbeen and that's probably why the balance looks like shit with darius being op as fuck and the devs just handwaving the concern away
no worries though they will probably giga nerf/make adjustments if the playerbase cries about it so you can guarantee they'll nerf anything retarded pretty fast since it is riot we're talking about here
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>>488252640
https://youtu.be/rVzcaQovvcU?t=933
Ekko creates his infamous time clone he can cancel into, does overhead and then does the low. Yes it's a setup and reward for knock down but still, not even Cag does this shit, her overhead is absolutely reactable
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>>488252460
Kind of?

Sometimes you can force a 50/50 on the opponent by altering the timings on moves or if it works with system mechanics (i.e. Risings combo limit can be deliberately caused to check if the opponent is keeping track).

I'd say it's mostly a systemic problem caused with fighting games becoming more and more combo dependent and longer as a result.

As far as how I play it?
Lots of games nowadays give beneficial defensive mechanics to help alleviate the problems, but the main way I'd go about countering is looking for the most beneficial option and working from there. For example, in a auto combo in Rising, the most beneficial position is crouching, because the triple attack overhead ender is slower than the low ender, meaning it's easier to react to. You could also use dedicated get off me moves, like DPs to get them out of your face.
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>>488252460
I'm not a big fg player but this thing seems to be something older games had. Wolf guy in blazblue definitely had unreactable 50/50s for example.
The only real kuso setup in this game is the nier dp rs setup that you can't BC but I think it's just dodgeable.
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>>488252460
>is it normal for fighting games to have fucking retarded 50/50s you can't deal with and are entirely on your opponent's hands with absolutely no agency on your side?
It heavily depends on the game.
Guilty Gear is notorious for having a lot of unreactable mixups for example, but often there's nuance to the situation that makes it more than just a simple 50/50 guess. You might be able to fuzzy block the mixup for example. Or you have something like Millia's H disc mixups where the setup is fake sometimes, and the opponent can recognize this and jump out of the disc (but the Millia player can know that they know this and cover that option, so the mindgame has multiple layers). A game like Street Fighter on the other hand has less of this kind of thing and it's more just straight strike/throw.
A fighting game has to have guesses at some point. If everything was reactable then no one would ever get hit. In a game with unreactable throws (which is most of them), every time someone gets knocked down it's a guess. The attacker on oki can either strike or throw. Even if the defender does an OS like fuzzy jumping, the attacker can call this out with something like a delayed button. Regardless of how many options there are, it's still ultimately an unreactable guess.
Ideally you want an unreactable mixup to present multiple nuanced options for both the attacker and the defender, and you usually want the mixup to be presented as a reward for winning neutral interactions, but how well this is actually implemented varies from game to game.
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>>488253269
>The only real kuso setup in this game is the nier dp rs setup that you can't BC but I think it's just dodgeable.
Oh right, I forgot about that since I haven't played versus a Nier in ages. Welp.
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>>488252776
Oh, you meant an unblockable, yeah, those aren't too common. If air blocking is a thing in 2XKO then he could've up-backed on wakeup.
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>>488253148
>For example, in a auto combo in Rising, the most beneficial position is crouching, because the triple attack overhead ender is slower than the low ender, meaning it's easier to react to
That made me think about something I wanted to make a post about for a while: it seems to me (playing shitter S-rank, by the way) that most my opponents don't go for the overhead, at least against me. Because the few times I get hit by it, it's noteworthy. Which is extra noteworthy, as my character doesn't have a DP. But I go for the M-ender a lot and it often catches my opponent despite crouch-blocking. Which I think could be them trying to DP a potential overhead?
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>>488253384
It's not really an unblockable (maybe?), apparently you have protection to it in that game, there's no Lowain doing the overhead and his bro doing a low for example, if you block one you also automatically block the another.

Yes you also reminded me of that Lowain setup. Again, you can DP it or jump away and hit Lowain or something.
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>>488252460
Strive does the same thing where it's constantly 'just guess right' 50/50s with RC. Most of the time, even when you guessed right, the opponent was still plus so your reward for guessing right was simply not dying.
The only things in GBVSR that forces actual guesswork that I'm aware of are things like Ferry and Grimnir's instant overhead setups. One of the reasons I think this game is good is because there's barely any random BS like that.
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>>488252460
It's because fighting games with bullshit mixups and huge combos are built around the fact that opponents have a Burst if they get opened up so it's """fair""".
There are answers like fuzzy defense but those are more a matter of circumstances than game design.
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>>488253547
This is the hour when we aren't bitching about the game constantly? Neat.
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>>488253507
If it was an invincible overhead it would stop you regardless or just avoid your low in the worst case scenario for them. It's probably panic mashing on triple attack where they think you go for overhead, when low ender is faster and catches more people off guard.
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>>488252776
i feel like this is just the nasty unreactable shit you see in only tag fighters
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>>488253507
>But I go for the M-ender a lot and it often catches my opponent despite crouch-blocking. Which I think could be them trying to DP a potential overhead?
Mashing, you can DP the low ender if you constantly mash the DP input.
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>>488253657
What is Burst?
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>>488252460
tag fighters are notorious for bullshit high/low left/right 50/50s
that's why they're trash
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>>488253148
>fighting games becoming more and more combo dependent and longer as a result.
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>>488252460
Fighting games are fundamentally high-speed weighed rock-paper-scissors at their core. Some play more into the weighed aspect, and some more to the high-speed aspect.
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>>488253935
>you can DP the low ender if you constantly mash the DP input.
No you can't, it's a true blockstring meaning it will hit anyone mashing a DP input.
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I came here with utmost haste and against all odds to inform the good people of /gbvsg/ that your latest announced character, Vikara, was featured in the new Granblue Fantasy summer event released yesterday and not 2 chapters had passed before she pissed herself AGAIN.
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>>488254539
You’re a bit late bwo…
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>>488253507
Basically you can just fuzzy the overhead (block low first and then change to standing) so it isn't a real mix, so most people don't bother with the overhead. However the low ender catches reversal attempts since it's a truestring low, so it works as a callout for those moves.
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>>488254539
>I came here with utmost haste
people were already posting about it last thread bwo
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>>488254646
So I'm a genius at mind-games. Thanks.
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>>488254182
as the name implies it's a mechanic that blows the opponent off of you, ending a combo in progress or removing you from a dangerous mixup situation in exchange for making you vulnerable later on if your burst hasn't regenerated yet
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i'll take mixups over walking back and forth, thanks
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>>488255085
>as the name implies it's a mechanic that blows the opponent off of you, ending a combo in progress
I see. I don't like it, I feel like if you get hit you should get hit, but if the game has bullshit setups then it's fair.
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>>488255203
part of the mind game of more fast paced and degenerate anime fighters is understanding how to play around it, whether it's baiting it by intentionally dropping a combo, using moves that circumvent the burst or pull you out of range, or entering a state that removes the opponent's ability to burst, like when using a super or a game specific install
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>>488252460
>is it normal for fighting games to have fucking retarded 50/50s you can't deal with and are entirely on your opponent's hands with absolutely no agency on your side?
For tag games? Yes. Older games? Also yes, just look at what arakune can do. Modern games? Not so much
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>>488256747
>Modern games? Not so much
Eh, depends on the game, Strive is full of them, as is Tekken 8.
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>>488251483
I had a double double ko and got a final match once.
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>>488256949
From what I remember most of them were still locked behind meter (universal BRC overhead) to get decent reward, but it has been a while
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>>488257145
>but it has been a while
I can see that, now you have two distinct characters that have unreactable comboable special move follow-ups with overhead/low/reset as options, literally dial-a-mixup. And being locked behind meter hardly matters now with positive bonus being the way it is + OWA for the top tiers.
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>>488254539
uh bro the other thread told me it wasn't piss this time.
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>>488257675
I don’t think there’s actually much indication that it’s poop. It’s “foam and other stuff”, most likely that means “foam and piss”.
It’s funnier if it’s poop though.
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>>488256420
nice
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>>488257812
The rim job wife guy is doing victory laps right now.
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>>488257812
Is there one thing she doesn't fail without rat ears?
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Lucky! Cookie! Poopy!
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>>488259150
She gets body swapped with a fish and manages to beat herself up as a fish. I guess that counts sort of.
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Kill every horse, for fucks sake. Total equine destruction.
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Why are they so mean...
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>>488259721
she didn't even do that, hekate beat up her body
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>>488263696
Bea, you really don't have a right to be talking about "gross" with the way you're always scratching your ass...
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>>488262979
thank you
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Nigga complained about tag games but is playing the game with blue slime into 65% from midscreen
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>>488264812
Rising is a very low-bullshit game.
If you think otherwise you have no perspective.
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>>488264134
How else would she make sure that the donut is still there?
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can you absorb sugars through your butt?
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>>488264812
I don't ever feel like I get bullshitted in this game. When I lose it's always my fault.
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>>488263385
They hate horses cause they hate freedom
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Shrinking myself to the size of a donut and being embraced by the warm comfort of Bea's asshole...
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>>488265419
Horses are the most cucked beings in existence. They have worked their ass off more than any other animal ever did and I'm including meat producing animals.

Also, none of these animals were created for running free in fields. Horses were and they got cuck caged by humans since the beginnings of history of even earlier.
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>>488265419
because you're basically bronies
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>>488265540
actually chickens are the most cucked animals in existence
males exist to get grinded into nuggies while artificial insemination happens to the majority of females

I love granblue fantasy versus.....
rising
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>>488266993
Did you really have to post Kizzie? Almost implying he's there because he knows something about chickens, specially dead ones.
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Love horses
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>>488189117
Good post, ty
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>>488267368
You are born under a lamp, you get tumbled down a slope with 100s of other fluffy chicks to be put into a bin in some horrible fluff legion amalgamation until you are pulled out of your fluffy flesh nest to have a middle aged migrant woman shove her finger up your ass and throw you into the failure conveyer for males where you toss and tumble your way into the grinder to become bitter sweet nuggie pulp.

I would rather face 10000 niers than risk having one cycle of life as a chicken.
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>>488268353
big belly button
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Can someone explain to me how anti-airing works?

Sometimes I can counter people going for jump-ins at me using my c.H or f.H, other times I just get counterhit myself. Do jump attacks have crush levels as well? And is 2H the only button that crushes all options?
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>>488248926
https://youtu.be/69bTcNU4CxM?si=H89pHEK1L1bh1Pbg
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The question nobody dared to answer...
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>>488268989
You're probably mistiming your anti-airs some times, notice that the anti air normals don't have invincibility in this game.
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>>488266993
roosters are allowed to strut around everywhere
also the wild ancestor of chickens is still around unlike horses
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>>488268989
>Do jump attacks have crush levels as well?
Yes
>And is 2H the only button that crushes all options?
I'm going to assume yes but I only tested a few characters, it seemed as if every jump attack had clash level 2 at best. Maybe some more knowledgeable person can give you a better answer.

As for being counterhit you probably pressed it too late.
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>>488272378
Also I lied, f.h/c.h will crush every jump attacks but I am not sure if every character has a level 3 for universally. It would be nice if the game said this in game.
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>>488268989
certain specials can clash or crush 2H, but i don't believe there are many of them

you're usually fine to press 2H if they go into the air
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I feel a little disrespected getting grabbed out of the air
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>>488272378
>it seemed as if every jump attack had clash level 2 at best.
I think that applies to air normals (and probably to air specials as well), but there are some grounded specials that put you airborne that can clash with 2H, like Bea 214H for example.
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>>488273632
>Bea 214H for example.
Hey neat it does on the second hit but gets crushed on the first. I wonder how many non ultimate skills get away with this. Zeta and Bubs seemed to require the ult versions.
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>>488273329
Sorry, I do get a combo out of it sometimes
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>get matched against Lowain a million times
>quit matchmaking for a bit
>start again
>now get matched constantly with a different Locain
Holy shit I hate this fucking character
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>>488276643
issa low tier
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>>488273329
I find it hilarious when someone tried to airgrab me only to get hit with j5m into j214h full combo, personally.
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FYUCK YOU BUBS! STOP DIVING
HOW AM I SUPPOSED TO TAKE MY TURN LIKE THIS
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>>488278784
Use your counter if you're Charlotta
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>>488278784
*SNIIIIIIIIIIIIFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFF*
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>>488278784
just DP you dumb potato.
The only characters who should have trouble with bub's divekick is characters without meterless DPs because 2Hing it is really hard, so the most consistent thing you can try is air to airing him
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>instead of showing new 1.50 changes they show off the robomi minigame
I just want to know how Zooey's new 22U works.
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>>488280547
It sucks and it's shit and it's for faggots.
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>>488281013
is this true
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>>488281105
Don't listen to him Zoi bro, we have to trust on the big meaty
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>>488281376
she looks like shes nude
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>>488280547
its gonna be kat 236U 2.0
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>>488281563
I have never played Katalina, is that good?
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>>488281809
It's a lot better than base 236U, it lets her get much more corner carry off of any hit confirming into 236U
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Fucking hell, I played against my first Nier in ages and I forgot just how much I hated that cunt
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>>488282413
DAIKIRAI!!!
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>>488281809
you cancel into it from any button and get fullscreen corner carry
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>>488282413
I'm always surprised at how much she can do mid screen and the chip damage from ultimate skills
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>>488273295
you got stuffed
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>>488282413
And now you remember she used to be even better
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good morning i love granblue fantasy versus rising
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>>488284942
are you trying to say that 2H didn't go active?
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>>488286060
Good morning, I hope you slept well. You will need the proper rest to compete at the highest level of our beloved fighting game Granblue Fantasy Versus........Rising.
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>>488286186
If you got hit during your active frames and the move out prioritied your move, it should say "Crushed" on the side next to "Counter Hit" If it doesn't then it's likely your startup frames was hit
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>>488286060
Retard
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>>488286060
I've been on a >2 hour loss streak and I hate this game
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>>488286531
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>>488287742
Fight me you'll win for two hours instead
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>>488287892
Yeah you got fucked. Ultimate skills tend to have high priority
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>>488287963
What rank? I'd rather not bully an S rank or something
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>>488287742
you didn't believe in victory
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>>488288997
B rank with 15k games
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>>488288997
Oops I'm indeed an S rank
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>>488280547
The true savior of Rising
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>>488289410
Are you that one Charlotta player? I'll be on the boat in the lobby. I'm shit against Charlotta so maybe I'll pick something up if you have 15k games.
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>>488288997
Bitch if you’re losing nonstop you’re obviously not meant to be in your current rank, you’re just a glorified S ranky.
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>>488289875
EU btw

>>488289891
Unfortunately I can't derank from master so I'm stuck here, and I'm not going to change my main until the big meaty.
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I feel like I hit a wall ever since I got to S+. I have no idea what I'm doing wrong. Am I playing too impatiently? Am I using Narmaya's buttons wrong? Do I just fundamentally not understand how to play Narmaya, or the game in general?

Here's a replay, if it helps. https://streamable.com/s6bxg5
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>>488290327
Narmaya is low tier, you have to play one of the top 6 characters to stand a chance.
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>>488290327
Looked like a normal ass clowny match where neither player really understood their character beyond basic combos.

I have no advice. Play more.
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>>488289875
Sorry, I wrote that as a joke
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>>488290905
I have over 5k matches. How much longer is this going to take before I actually get somewhere?
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>>488291928
At least 20k matches.
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>>488291928
it's never a length of time thing, it's always just about how you go about learning it.
I think the easiest way to go about it to watch higher level play of the exact matchup. Record the replays with OBS or something so you can rewind, and rewatch parts, and pause the video over and over and just try to think of it from the narmaya's point of view. Why did they do X, etc. That should try help you develop a mindset which then can help point out what mistakes you are making in future matches, because you have something to compare it to.
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>>488290817
>Narmaya is low tier
Literally guaranteed top 3 after the patch though
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>>488292075
I guess this game isn't for me, then.
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>>488292423
Ignore the shitposters you God damn retard
>>488290327
I'm eating rn but will analyze it in a bit
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>>488292370
If you think characters are getting nerfed instead of being brought up to Nier's level, you're an idiot. She'll be a solid mid tier like she's always been. Maybe even lower if they nerf her U skill plus frames.
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>>488292752
>solid mid tier
If she's "mid tier" then I hope you realize it means half the roster is literal dogshit
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>>488290327
Use 66L more on offense. Back dash out of your opponent's range when backing off. You got hit a lot of times by either giving up pressure or not backing up far enough.
At 0:53 Luci whiffed 2H twice for some reason and you just stood there. I don't play Narmaya but I think you should be abusing U crescent moon more until your opponent shows they can deal with it. Narmaya is very pressure-heavy so you want to get in fast and hold it. Also don't be afraid to DP on your opponent's plus frames unless it gets baited.
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>>488292370
>>488292752
Everyone above Narmaya is on the chopping block for nerfs.
Everyone below her has a reasonable chance at buffs.
Narmaya is right on the line basically, I don’t think she has to worry about nerfs but she might get overlooked and just not get anything.
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>>488293290
>Perci that high
Sure Tororo brought him to Grand Finals but I wouldn't go that far. I'd put him next to Charlotta
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>>488293290
This but Vira.

Vira is the true middle in terms of balance in granblue. She is the mid tier.
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>>488293534
How is Vira mid when her buttons cover 1/4th of the screen and she can corner-to-corner you even outside of install
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>>488293290
Great list when looking at it that way
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>>488293757
>How is Vira mid when her buttons cover 1/4th of the screen and she can corner-to-corner you even outside of install
what version of the game are you playing
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>>488293963
The version of the game where I get raped by CanOfSprite repeatedly
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>>488293757
She has to spend BP for corner carry, which is low tier behavior, but she has good buttons which is high tier behavior. So shes mid tier.
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>>488273295
The first 3 active frames of Anila 2H doesn't actually match the animation and has a rather small disjoint compared to most other 2Hs I've looked at. So sometimes it whiffs despite looking like it hits or gets stuffed by jump attacks with better disjoints.
Her DP works the same way, not actually matching the animation till the 4th active frame.
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>>488293290
>Implying honest mids Sieg is getting anything but buffs.
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>Wanna play Grimnir
>But I'll never be that Grimnigga so why bother
I hate this mindset and it's hard to shake.
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>>488294161
Anon, I...
>>488287892
I wasn't hitbox interaction, it straight up got crushed due to Zeta's airdash having higher priority than it.
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ummmmmmmmm does ferry have any crossup attack?
actually let's start with how do I play Ferry at all?
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>>488294829
Frequent a choir voice school
Graduate
Boot up Rising
Pick Ferry
Enter match
Start screaming "AIEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE!!! RUSHDOWN GODS!!! I KNEEL!!! I YIELD!!! PLEASE TAKE BEPPO OR GEEGEE, BUT PLEASE, SPARE MY LIFE!!!! AIEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE" at the top of your lungs.
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>>488294143
>She has to spend BP for corner carry
Not in her install, she doesn't. And this game gives so much meter gauge that getting her install is piss easy.
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>>488294829
Well first you have to insert an unpatched copy of Granblue Fantasy Versus into your PS4...
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>>488294161
anila 2H is insanely good.
thats just zeta j22U having high priority, crushing anti airs
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Granblue Fantasy Versus: Rising has good music. I enjoy it a lot.
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Ferry is still paying for her crimes in Vanilla!

Hehe, I said the line :) Fuck donkeys btw
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>>488295689
So basically whenever Zeta is in the air spotdodge is your only real option
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WHAT DO YOU MEAN YOU DON’T LIKE BELIAL’S BALLS
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Ferry is my personal fuckdonkey.
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>>488292252
I watched some canofsprite replays. I have no idea what that dude is thinking. His decisions seem completely random. He straight up uses g214M in neutral, jumps after k236M knockdowns as if being negative is just a concept and he couldn't possibly be 2H'd out of it, does j236L oki and immediately 66L after landing risking being 2L'd after, and a bunch of stuff I can't fathom doing.

I don't think I'll ever reach that level of play.
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>>488296038
DP works too.
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>>488296038
You could simply block the mids.
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>>488296385
>j236L
j214L, my bad. The crescent moon TK.
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>>488294537
My bad, should have read the replies before assuming.
>>488295689
Not trying to say it's terrible, just that sometimes it loses in ways you wouldn't expect given the animation. In the video it didn't seem like it had hit the 4th frame yet, so I assumed it was that.
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jesus christ sheep anon
how did you even handle me back then as a Ferry
she's so clunky
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>>488296992
it becomes painful when you can't anti air jumping harvins
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>>488296992
His name is Thinking NA, don't belittle him by calling him a sheep.
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>>488297209
i like sheep, so that's quite fine by me
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>namedropping out of nowhere
You LOVE him.
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ggs anon thank you for gaming as always
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I can't believe I just lost to some D-rank Vira.
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>>488295497
>How is Vira mid when her buttons cover 1/4th of the screen and she can corner-to-corner you even outside of install
>she can corner-to-corner you even outside of install
>Not in her install
>she can corner-to-corner you even outside of install
>Not in her install
>she can corner-to-corner you even outside of install
>Not in her install
>she can corner-to-corner you even outside of install
>Not in her install
>she can corner-to-corner you even outside of install
>Not in her install
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>>488290327
I'd say that the most important at this point in ranked is to find your opponent weakness as quick as you can, and abuse it before they adapt.
Typically, I think you saw that Luci was mashing 2L a lot, especially when you were negative on block, but you realistically only managed to catch him once with run-up U Crescent (which is great).

But that's one single match against one player. What I'd recommend is to make yourself a list of "knowledge checks" that you will use to gather information during the first round. This include safe jumps, frame/space traps, fake setups, okizeme, and so on. You won't be able to try everything so prioritize what can give you the best rewards, like the run-up U Crescent. The first thing I like to know personally is if they can delay tech and how frequently they use it.

You might also want to improve your whiff punishing skills, whether using Narmaya pokes or simply 66L. For that, you can get into training mode, record a bunch of moves, and make sure you block the attack if you're in range to get hit, or punish if the CPU whiffs. The trick to do that is to react to the character body on startup, not the VFX during active frames.
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>>488297616
Yeah she's mid-tier if you never use her install :^)
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it's like 4AM in Japan
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>>488298304
>"damn that was a nice day of jobbing, let me just scream ARUVEEEEEEEEEEEES in some newbie's ears and then I'll go to bed"
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>>488290327
I don't play narm but its always fun to watch people play her like this when every master seems to just spend meter on baiting bc/antiairs and flipping out of their mind constantly.
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Hmm, are BP unlocks tied to your steam account or your save file?
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>>488298427
>>488298304
アルベェェェス!
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The usual clique of EU-server people now have moved over to the fire field.
I don't like this. This was my chill place.
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>>488299003
The clique is still alive?
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>>488294890
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>>488299252
Or maybe it's a different one.
EU-servers are more active than a few weeks ago.
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>>488290905
You just described my 50 hours on granblue fantasy vs.... rising
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>>488252460
>does a overhead attack and immediately cancels that animation and does a low instead. Basically, forced 50/50.
The only game that I think has anything similar is MK
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>>488298257
>Character isn't good until you spend 100 meter
Sounds like a mid tier to me
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people always ask what is lobby status but never how is lobby status
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>>488300074
hes happy
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>>488298607
I think steam account
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>>488299775
oh and marvel
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>>488300074
2/100
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>>488300041
Now you're just being disingenuous. She's mid tier (better than half of the cast) if you don't 5U or use her install. The moment you do either, she becomes top tier. And if you get her install through 5U, she's a menace.
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>>488300456
If she lands her 5U then she deserves to win to be honest
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>>488293290
vas medium upplay
giga percy and kat upplay
vira downplay
slight vane upplay (somehow)
soriz medium upplay
ladiva downplay
uno downplay
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>>488295689
Example of what i meant here >>488296952
when I said it sometimes loses in unintuitive ways.
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>>488300657
>soriz medium upplay
downplay*
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>>488300531
Agreed, if you fall for any of her dozen of setups you deserve to lose!
>CH. cH you
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>>488300657
all of this but in reverse tbqh
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https://youtu.be/5rniLzwFZMU?t=228
Holy kek
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>>488293290
cag is bottom 3
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>>488300875
If Bea's c.H was 30 frames of startup with a visible tell, and whiffs on pre-jump frames then yeah, that would be equivalent
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>>488300975
Aaand... Everything else... Plays itself.
The only thing is that... Cagliostro players... Just like this weirdo n******u, believes that what they're doing, requires more work... THAN THESE GUYS!!!
You d- You do realize... N**u... Y-Y-You realize she's... S tier... You do realize that, right?
...That's not... Y-Y...
"Bottom 5"!
T-There's no w-, There's...
You think she's better t-t-, you think she's worse than Ladiva?
You think she's worse than Soriz?
Worse than Anre?
Worse than Avatar Belial?
Worse than Grimnir?
Worse than Katalina?
You think she's on the same with Percival???
Can I ask you a question then? Whe-Whe-Where do you- How good do you think Percival is?

AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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>>488300975
chris g said shes top 6
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>>488300657
>soriz medium upplay
60% WINRATE IN MASTERS
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>>488301161
ye, i meant to type downplay, i corrected it
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>>488290327
there's nothing in this gameplay that screams abnormal or bad. You have a solid grasp of utilizing your staggers and frame trapping on plus frames to keep pressure and when you get the hit you know how to follow through and combo.

What you're lacking here is that you keep going for the crescent moon flip as a means of resetting pressure and making bad guessing on your opponent's offense. That first round for instance was just a series of bad interactions caused by bad guesses and you ate shit for it. Final round once you got put into the corner you got opened up and even hit with a raging strike (its ok most people can't react to this anyway) but that really costs you resources.

It's not always about the quantity of matches played, but how you approach playing. Just trying to win vs trying to learn; focusing on specific aspects of your active play vs defensive play, etc. Most people plateau because they don't understand what it is they're searching for in improvement and just throw themselves at the game.
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instant Chris g dick riding weird that guy sucks and is a no nothing tourist
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>>488300074
I feel kinda sad for John Granblue over there...
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>>488300956
kekypow
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he got 24th at evo and beat the guy who got top 6 ass at a previous tournament in a dogshit matchup
c o p e
o
p
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>>488296038
I think some disjointed anti airs like bea can 2H, still too risky. You can dash in into c.H or 2H as a reaction, the j22U will miss you and you can still anti air conventional jump ins. You can DP it, beats all options. Or you can just block/spotdodge, good amount of the time her j22U is punishable depending on your character. She can do shallow j22U TK, its -7 and pushes her far away, but it wont combo if done like that. If you or her are near the corner, then all her ultimate spears are punishable
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>>488300996
Anon, Vira can combo into 5U from CH c.H, that's why the other anon brought it up...
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>>488300956
https://youtu.be/5rniLzwFZMU?t=321
what is with eustacebros and being choke artists
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>>488301586
same tourist almost beat hava in the original game at canada cup btw.
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>>488292723
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>>488301731
Shes throwing away like 50 meter and 4000+ damage depending on where on the screen if she goes into 5U from CH c.H
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>>488299003
what clique?
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>>488290327
No advice sorry, but what did you use to edit the names off? I want to share some of my replays too.
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>>488301731
He posted a picture of Bea, the character notorious for doing 80% off of a CH c.H because he was talking about Vira's CH c.H into 5U?
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>>488302583
I am the anon that made that post, and I used a Bea picture because they both hit their win condition the moment they land a CH c.H. Game's over the moment they do it.
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>>488301731
She can?
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>>488302915
yes but like anon said...
>>488302086
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>>488302915
Yeah, but it's more optimal to just c.H into c.H into install super 99% of the time
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>>488301161
During the week of Beafrauds making their way in. It was good eating.
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>>488303040
>>488303051
True, I guess it's only good when it's literally the start of the round.
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>>488302482
I use https://argorar.github.io/webm-converter/
To edit the names off, I just add an image that covers both names as an overlay.
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>>488290327
0:02 don't let luci teleport on you like that, dp that shit
0:44 if your opponent makes you block an autocombo you get a guaranteed counterhit BC
0:52 you let him whiff two giant buttons for free
0:55 too much walking forward from long range, dash in and 66L more
1:07 failed 66L hitconfirm
other than that you let him mash on you too much
you would have won if you punished his teleports and hitconfirmed 66L
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Thanks for the matches, Perci-anon, those were some fiery battles.
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>>488303619
thank you bwo
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Not as fiery as your asshole's about to feel when I shove my cock in it without lube!
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imagine if you will the ants crawling out of beatrix's butt at night
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>>488306153
Golshi seller...
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hmm do i want to be mentally ill and hop on ranked today
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>>488306247
Why would you share that thought with us
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>>488201207
It was the only game at evo with the arena half empty on sunday. This game isn’t going to ever have a big worthwhile scene, its better to accept it now rather than thinking that will change.
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>>488309481
Intrusive thoughts rot in the mind like forgotten tomatoes at the back of the fridge if not expressed.
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>>488201207
If I stopped enjoying something because some sperg on 4chan said so I would be left with literally nothing to enjoy
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retard
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>>488199997
this
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>>488310940
Are there even people like that?
Like, some random retard on the Internet says something bad about things they enjoy and they... just stop enjoying them?
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>>488312104
You are not immune to propaganda etc
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>>488312104
I think it's working on me. I am starting to genuinely dislike seeing Bridget art now, and that scares me.
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I'm immune to propaganda btw
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>horse hater
>Bea anus hater
Who is the bigger scourge to the thread?
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KON
O
N
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def the horse hater
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>>488314854
Transexuals
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>>488314854
Horseposters.
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>>488314947
fox love
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>>488314854
Horse hater is a gigantic faggot, definitely him.
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>>488312104
I've changed my mind about the quality of several films after watching some random nobody on the internet negatively review them.
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>>488312104
It's not right after but I have greatly improved my taste over 10 years by letting go of things I enjoyed before.
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>>488300956
kekynade
kekaboom
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>>488310940
>>488311084
Why the fuck are you niggas replying to 20hr old posts?
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>>488314854
>>488315005
>>488315315
The horseposter is a off-topic spammer that shit talks Rising.
How is the nigga getting annoyed at that the cancer of the thread and NOT the spammer
I guess the nigga having a meltdown yesterday and posting scat itt was actually good for the thread and if anyone got annoyed at it they're the problem
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>>488315910
The time limit for replying to posts is the thread getting archived. There's nothing wrong with replying to day-old posts if the thread's still alive. I mean what do you think, that those original posters getting replied to would actually get a life and not check this thread daily even though they don't play the game? Stop being preposterous.
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>>488316156
Shut up retard.
Don't talk about yourself in the third person, you are not fooling anyone.
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erm replying to posts is BAD
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>>488299383
cute cursorchang
>>488302069
i don't really know what you mean by this but i feel like i agree deeply with it
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If there were like a hundred different webms of filling donuts with cream I would tackle the horseposting issue by responding with one of those every time a horse is posted. But that is sadly not possible.
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I'm going to kiss this girl
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I remember times when you couldn't even link to other posts.
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>>488316413
sure nigga, i'll be your boogeyman
but it seems you failed to address anything i said so...
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>>488316590
I'm going to anally penetrate this old man
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>>488316813
Because you are gigantic faggot and a disingenuous nigger.
You are comparing pictures of cute horsegirls with pictures of literal shit and you want me to """address anything you said""" fuck off.
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I just beated the shit out of a s++ Nier, I'm feeling invincible
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>arguing with Fear
ISHYGDDT
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>>488317504
Which server?
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Made a room if anyone wants to play.
PW: gbvsg
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>>488318091
Chubby girls are kino, obese women are disgusting
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>>488317504
Based.
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>>488318267
Nah any sort of fat is gross. Girls with abs mog the fuck out of fatties.
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>>488318079
NA
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>>488316590
im going to impregnate this cute girl
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>>488318604
Didn't earn it.
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>>488318758
M-masaka....
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>>488318637
You can't impregnate old men.
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>>488318956
Well, not with that attitude
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why hasn't gran dicked down neechang yet is he gay
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>>488319416
Women are stupid and fickle. The moment she gets what she wants she won't want it anymore.
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>>488318956
you actually can, the reason why men have prostates while women don't is because when you are a fetus and your chromosomes are putting together your male genitalia, it takes what was suppose to be a womb, and turns it into a prostate, kind of like how men have nipples despite the fact that they serve no biological purpose. Which is why it feels good to have pressure applied to it, it's the feeling of being cummed inside. The one thing that modern medicine doesn't want to you to know is that you can actually impregnate men through their prostate, but your semen needs to be acidic enough to bypass the membrane of the prostate. No human semen has that level of acidity, but there are things you can change in your diet to modify how base/acidic your pee is. So theoretically, you could also do the same with your semen. There's also some genetic lottery that needs to take place for it to actually work right, and there is a high chance that the fetus will die anyways and you end up pooping blood.
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IT'S NEE-CHAN
CHAN
NOT CHANG
SHE IS NOT CHINESE
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>>488320228
Scamchang is so cute
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>>488320228
that's my neechang
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>>488320228
Narmaya would want you to call her whatever makes you happiest
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IT'S SCAMAYA
SCAM
NOT [ANYTHING ELSE]
IT'S BECAUSE SHE'S A SCAMMING CHINESE BITCH
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>>488320524
that's my indian call center
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I'm tired of farming for (You)'s
There must be more to this life.
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If Natmaya actually wanted to be my big sister, she would dress like Anila does. But she doesn't, and that's why Anile is my big sister.
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>>488319939
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>>488318758
Nah, he earned it. This is what EU master niers look like.
https://mega.nz/file/1jIVyQyD#7i0mJtGccb8pRzgmp27ABvhckYxT2_TmzJBwPVywbys
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>>488321106
Not clicking your horse anus virus. And he still didn't earn it.
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You've signed out.
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I hate maintenance
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>>488319631
need galleon hoodie
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YUEL ANUS SNIFFA
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goddammit steam
guess its time to call it a day
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i guess i'll buy a ps5 then
farewell, platform lobby
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>>488322489
Oh okay, so it wasn't just me having Steam get fucky suddenly.
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>>488318091
Steam is back up, room is too.
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>>488322972
it's chewsday
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>>488293179
>>488297983
>>488301319
>>488304119
Thanks for the advice, anons. A few things:
>>488297983
>The trick to do that is to react to the character body on startup, not the VFX during active frames.
Isn't that dangerous to do? Lots of skills can be confused as normals and end up crushing my would-be whiff punishes.
>>488301319
>What you're lacking here is that you keep going for the crescent moon flip as a means of resetting pressure
I'm not sure what else Narmaya has that's a relatively safe pressure reset. Everything else seems minus as hell, while the flip is -2 at worst. That said, I've noticed I have a tendency to guess strike at throw ranges. Terrible thing to do when all I have is a parry.
>>488304119
>1:07 failed 66L hitconfirm
I swear I tried. I spammed L really hard, but he somehow recovered in time. I think it was because it wasn't a punish or counterhit, but I've got no real clue.
>>488293179
Safely disengaging is another thing I struggle with, you're right... What should I do to handle this? I'm guessing I need to learn how to use the auto combo less and push myself out with simple 5L/M/Hs?
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>>488322998
TOUCH GRASS NIGGA
WE'RE BEGGING YOU
GABE'S TRYNA GET YOU OUT THE DOOR
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>>488323371
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Im really bad at timing a f.L after 66L
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>>488322264
you'd probably die from that
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>>488323079
innit
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>>488323637
Fucking gross
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>>488323637
still WOULD
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>>488323637
level 99 kek every time
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>>488197439
mmmm Bread bread
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>>488325692
>>488197439
is that THE bread commissioning art of his main?
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>>488326274
no its just another zeta player named bread commissioning zeta fanart
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Anyone wanna play? s+ eu.
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>>488323365
>Isn't that dangerous to do?
It can be, so that's why you'll have to catch their habits first. Usually, you aim for whiff punishes if you know that your opponent tend to throw big moves in panic, to scare you off or to fish for an opening. If they use something else, maybe you'll prefer to DP or spotdodge on reaction depending on the matchup. In the end, if you're in range to simply 66L, it might be at your advantage regardless of what they use.
I guess at high level, some might actually provoke you by whiffing on purpose, but that's a whole other layer of mind game.
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Guess I'll play something else then.
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>>488328249
there is a room up currently 4/9
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Vira can koko desu ka my dick any day
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mango mango mango mango mango mango mango mango mango mango mango mango mango mango mango mango mango mango mango mango mango mango mango mango mango mango mango mango
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Thinking of buying this for nostalgia purposes. Wondering how active the community is. Can I easily find others online in USA, or is it one of those games where I have to rely on discord matchmaking?
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>>488332441
you can find matches, as long as it isn't too early in the morning
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>>488332441
I have no trouble finding games on ranked or in the lobbies. Weird hours can take a few minutes.
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>>488332441
i just got back into it recently and haven't had problems finding matches
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I'm putting everyone AFK while queued into a meat grinder and pissing on their chunks
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Why do cag players play in such a fucking deranged manner
>Teleport spam f.h spam trap spam air rock spam ground spear spam run up j22u spam bc you the moment you finally close in on her then teleport away to spam some more
>spam spam spam
>will only rematch if they win, refuses the rematch on a loss
Fuck cag players
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>>488334214
she's low tier, bottom tier even
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>>488323365
>I'm guessing I need to learn how to use the auto combo less and push myself out with simple 5L/M/Hs?
Exactly this but it's more so a consequence of going for that kind of pressure. On block, the only thing the autocombo gets you is time for your plus on block move to come back from cooldown. If it's still on cooldown, you could try to reset with the ender but your turn's over when it's blocked. You don't really want to be pushed out too much because you'll lose your pressure so you 66L or use some other plus move to stay in.
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>>488334214
>why do players of this character try to use the character's tools optimally to win the match?
Gee idk anon
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>>488331461
i can hear it...
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>>488335242
flowcharting if I win = rematch, the moment I get figured out and lose one game = run off like a pussy is considered optimal now?
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>EU player past midnight
>expect little to no connections to be too good
>play ranked
>go against an S++ whilst I'm S+
>they rage quit

hmmm. Anyone wanna play EU a bit?
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>Have the shittiest Zoi ever that gets frequently thrown back down to A5
>Already had 3 rage quits by level 163
What the fuck why does this never happen when I play Bea/Kat/Charlotta what did Zooey do to these people
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>>488337043
i'm too sleepy, i'm gonna jerk off then sleep
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>>488337413
It better be to a character that's worth it at least
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>>488337173
they're racist... against onions
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>>488337173
I set match completion to high only and never looked back.
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my condolences to all the luci players for what has transpired.
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>>488337173
They're preparing for her buff next patch.
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>>488337952
stop posting this you fucker.
it doesn't even make me aroused it just makes me smile.
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>watch JP streamer
>they take turns, make their honest guess and then defend against the opponent turn. Lots of downbacking in neutral because everyone is afraid of the whiff punish. DP once in a blue moon to keep people honest.
>watch NA streamer
>they play like mental asylum escapees. DP after minus, wakeup super. Wakeup jump. Run up into empty jump. Run up delay ssba. Run up delay dp.
What the fuck is wrong with NAtards. Did striverot affect their brains that badly
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GGs lobby, those were some fun matches. Thanks for joining!
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>>488338751
ggs kino Lunalu lobby. Wish I joined earlier.
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>>488338717
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>>488338717
This is why JP (and korea) has gone down the shitter in EVOs.
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>>488338717
yeah and guess who won evo
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>>488338717
"""Turns""" are the gayest, dumbest concept in fighting games. You never heard people talk about """turns""" in fucking Street Fighter before IV, or in CvS or in Marvel games.
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>>488339062
2nd place with bottom 2
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>>488338751
>>488338828
ggs friends
see ya next time
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>>488339152
celebrate while you can, you burgers are dead come october when Tako comes back to this kusoge
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>>488339213
If you aint first, you the worst. USA numba wan.
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>>488339198
yeah because no one played street fighter before 4
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>>488338717
if it's not my turn every turn then i'm not having fun playing the game
this is an anime fighter with naked dudes in speedos, not fucking chess at your grandma's house
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>God, why are people trying to WIN at a fighting game? Bunch of gorillas.
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>>488339662
games are for fun
not winning
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>>488338717
EVO 7/8 NA players. It is the correct way to play this game. The game is the problem.
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>>488339841
winning is fun
losing is not fun
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>>488339973
I had fun at evo
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>>488339662
Is it really a win if you only won because of your opponent not expecting you to play like a clinically insane psychopath?
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>>488339878
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>>488340170
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>jappas too retarded to review any netplay tournament and see the average american experience (fuselit fodder)
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>>488339485
t. zoomer
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>>488340450
they probably watched our vods, thought "holy shit these niggas are retarded" and ignored it. Then come EVO they realize we are playing this way because that is how the shitty game is optimally played.
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Is Bea an honest mid tier after the nerfs?
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>>488340798
she went down one spot at most, is top 5 still.
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>>488338717
That's what you need to do if you want to win in FT2 format.
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>>488338751
>master1200
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>>488340852
>bea top 5
That's just propaganda
nier siegfraud sixslop lancenigger belialhomo already make 5
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Sooo what do I get with buying the game. Can I just go full F2P? Is the first Versus dead btw?
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>>488340873
nips in ranked are playing ft2 as well but you don't see them larping as the clinically insane
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>>488341028
Bea is better than Lancelot.
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>>488341028
Why doesn't Nier get a disparaging nickname?
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>>488341210
this is what I was going to respond thanks
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>>488341095
>Is the first Versus dead btw?
effectively
>Can I just go full F2P?
Buying the game unlocks the entire(non dlc) roster and the ability to join private rooms. Free to play can still join open lobbies and do netplay that way.
Free to play also cant buy battlepasses?
You can also crack the entire game and have full functionality if you are really poor and want to do that.
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>>488341028
bea is better than belial
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>>488341236
cuz she has nice titties
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>>488341284
I forgot to type this but free to play can also just still play in ranked/casual queue as well as the lobbies.
Also since it seemed like you might be asking, no you can't unlock or buy characters as a f2p.
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>>488341284
>You can also crack the entire game and have full functionality
interesting.
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>>488341475
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>>488341210
>>488341357
these comments only exist because kosame is too much of a lazy nigger to travel along with Tako dropping this kusoge
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>>488340596
street fighter was literally dead for almost a decade before 4 came out
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>>488342207
Right.
I must have imagined all those days I got together with friends to play Third Strike, and also all those EVOs that had it as the main event.
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>>488326274
Why did Bread commission an image of Zeta being dicked by Fraux?
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>>488342484
please understand zoomie zoom grew up seeing 09ers as the boomers. the concept of older players than that is incomprehensible.
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i think ferry is pretty
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kami fighter 4 was literally the renaissance of street fighter (and fighting games)

no one cares that you mashed specials with pablo in the run down arcade in turd strike
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>>488343259
I agree!
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>>488343302
OK zoom zoom
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>>488343259
pretty gnarly
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I'm trying to learn how to play this game but almost all my moves keep getting countered. I'm stuck blocking and everytime it seems like it would be a good time to take back my turn every move just gets countered, regardless of the startup frames on the move. What gives? I just get stuck in a corner and the game ends
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>>488343308
I could easily trick this Ferry to show me her private parts
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>>488346562
Unironically mash jab after everything they do and learn when it works and when it doesn't, eventually you'll know what's plus or minus by heart. Of course, stop mashing on minus once you know it's minus.
Either that or go the autism way of practice mode.
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>>488346562
If you're new don't play casual queue. Go to the lobby and fight people with low ranks (d-b) and blue/green/yellow squares.
Who are you playing/fighting and welcome to granblue, the dash attack everybody hits you with (66l) is plus on block.
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>>488346862
Meant on plus*
If they're minus it's your turn.
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O MA TA SE
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I can't wait for them to add Vane when the Big Meaty releases.
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>>488346609
and how would you do that?
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>>488348137
same brah
the vane nation will rise
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You better get vax'd to prepare for her being S tier.
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>>488349075
Having aids is liberating.
Someones whore wife has no power over me.
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>>488339198
It kind of makes sense that the term got more popular though because both offense and defense are so one dimensional in modern fighting games. The attacker does his string, the defender blocks, the string ends, now it's the defender's "turn", and that's how a lot of interactions go.
Compare that to say the older Guilty Gear titles, if you ask "when is it my turn?" the answer is always "when you take it back, bitch". If you don't know when to IB or challenge the string then you'll never get a "turn". Which is good, because it means that the defender actually has to work and be active on defense, instead of just waiting for the game to tell them that they're allowed to play again.
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God I'm sweating buckets all day and all night for the past 2 weeks, I hate summers so much it's unreal. The only thing I'm looking towards during summers is gacha swimsuits at this point, and fanart I guess.
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>>488348524
Alright alright I was trying to act cool..I don't know how to charm her. I would just give her a good bop with a baseball bat.
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>>488349515
this dude never learned when his turn was in older guilty gear games
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>>488349668
shame, anon... luckily i know how
"hey little ferry, wanna know how to guarantee buffs in the big meaty?"
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>>488349601
Be honest, are you fat? I only ask because fat people around me always made a remark about summer weather.
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>>488340170
This is why I take matches VERY slow. I always assume they will dp, they will super, they will BC, they will do everything they can to lash out like a feral animal. And I will wait for them to tie their own noose.
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>>488349905
nta but I'm underweight and I fucking hate summer
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>>488349601
protip: use a bidet to shoot cold water up your ass and trick your body into thinking its cold before going to bed. you could also just get a cold shower.

t. 98 degrees right now
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>>488349905
No, I'm a skeleton (5'11 160lbs). I remember it being a bit easier when I worked out but I had to take a break and now I don't wanna start again until this shitty temperature drops a bit...
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>>488349905
Hot environment. No air conditioning. Bed that retains heat. There is a lot of reasons to be miserable during a summer night besides being gawdlike.

It doesn't help that some people think they live in a hot environment when they dont.
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>>488349515
>Which is good, because it means that the defender actually has to work and be active on defense, instead of just waiting for the game to tell them that they're allowed to play again.
Thank you. This is something that I understood but I couldn't quite put into words myself. So I'm not insane then, most older games did not have such obvious, clearly defined "turns"
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meat on plus...
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>>488351631
thank you anon, I didn't know they announced a sequel to Golshi-chan's great adventure
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>>488348694
Every dog has his day.
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I don't like any of Zooey's alternate colors or weapons
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>>488353617
I like Zero Two Zoi and Deedlit Zoi...
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ignore that homo and look at this
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>>488353756
holy
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>>488353756
women with small breasts where you cannot always confirm the vagina are just men
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>>488353756
>Vane has bigger tits, thicker thighs, cuter personality
>"No no guys look at these useless twiglet girls!"
You just want to lust over something weak, controllable, a failed man like yourself can only even pretend to go after children.
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>>488353756
thank u
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>>488353617
You are so fucking stupid dude Zooey has some of the best color/weapon combinations in the entire game.
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>>488355035
what the fuck did he mean by this
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>>488355035
You can confirm a tranny from voice and face alone paranoianon
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>>488356260
it's pretty simple
if you do not have constant visibility of the vagina when looking at a flat chested girl, then it's just a boy. there's no difference.
>>488353756 two boys
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schrodingers vagina
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>all harvins are boys
its over...........
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my charlotta husband...
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>>488356687
I'm also a connoisseur of small boys though so I can tell the difference
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Is server down right now?
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>queens wear tiaras
>kings wear crowns
the signs have been infront of us all along.
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>>488350264
Then you lose because you gave up too many turns and they get more chances to rps casino you to death
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>>488358027
I'm literally tororo.
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>>488356260
he meant that he's an actual pedophile trying to deflect by shitting on lolis
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>>488341236
Nier dayo (derogatory)
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>>488358803
anon I think if that were the case he would be more in tune with the difference, not less.
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>>488358962
https://files.catbox.moe/kf2aks.mp3
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>>488359045
man it's a common tactic for actual pedophiles to shit on 2D lolis to make it seem like they aren't pedophiles
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>>488358685
exactly thats why you lost to that fat nigger aaron because you kept downbacking like a pussy
also because you refused to pick sieg. you and your gay buddy gamera simped too hard for your shit tier waifu picks and refused to swap out even on set point
learn from Tako, pick a top tier and shamelessly slop your way to wins
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>>488359163
are you a bot?
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>>488355841
based beyond reasonable doubt
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i want to marry nier
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is what I would say if I were a suicidal cuckold
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on opposite day in planet neptune where we only speak in negatives while smoking crack after I sucked cock behind a wendy's for more crack money in a dream after waking up from wetting the bed after the police raids my house because I'm actually in Nicaragua where the police are allowed to do that without warrants because I'm black
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>>488359319
what
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>>488359886
>suicidal
just don't do something stupid like cheat on her
>cuckold
what a shit take. her sheer devotion makes someone like anthuria look like a unfaithful street whore
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>>488290327
lmao nigga you got delay 2l'd so hard. your character has an easy answer to that shit, use it. and that's all the advice you need honestly, you can continue to slop in neutral and scamaya will do the rest
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>>488360541
>just don't do something stupid like cheat on her
You have never dated someone with BPD, I can tell.
People like Nier WILL find a reason to claim that you don't love them anymore and that you are interested in someone else, and they WILL react as if you had actually cheated on them.
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why would I date people
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how do i date people
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can i date people
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>>488353737
Colors that change hair and skin color are always shit, I don't want to play as an OC anime whore I want to play as Zooey the cute half dragon goddess.
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Are you ready for top tier Zoi?
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>>488362248
>alternate colors that are actually alternate colors are bad
OK m8
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If I had the power to make the ultimate fighting game, the roster would only be lolis, lolibabas, oppai lolis, small breasted hebs and everyone would be 140cm and lower. My PR team would constantly tell the gays and axe wounds to kill themselves on their favorite social media site while flaunting the 10k+ daily player count and immense sales numbers. Mods wouldn't be needed as all the characters would have the common fetish outfits out of the box (beat arcade mode for nudity) and then the DLC outfits get progressively more degenerate for $1 each. Small breasts would have jiggle effects depending on the sensitivity you set it to, like the old Dead or Alives had.
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>>488362534
Yes. Outfit colors are the only thing that should change.
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>>488362248
holy fuck I found the one battle pass red enjoyer lmaaaooooo
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>>488362909
Xerom...
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>>488362931
I disagree.
Fortunately, literally every fighting game developer also disagrees.
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i hope versusia's alts change her skin color like dhalsim
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>>488364034
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CHARLOTTA FENIA!!!
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>>488364034
Are people going to throw a fit if her skin color goes from red to white?
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>>488364395
I won't.
I expect her to have a good mix of human and inhuman looking colors, like Lucifer.
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>>488364949
I'll stick to her red color because I love monster girls, but it's entertaining watching NPCs blood vessel bursts when a non white skin color character gets white skin.
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prismatic Lowain is litetally hitler holy shit
it's like a rainbow smoke bomb
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>>488364340
How is she so tall...
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>>488366119
she gets that tall when she sees me
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>>488366119
She's built like a granite wall!
When they see her, the manlets BAWL and their men and women to her feet they CRAWL.
All the masses convert to be her fans, as she stimulates their adrenal glans. Audience as wide as her wingspans. Her fights tend to induce a trance and men fall for her with just a glance.
Her enticing aesthetics is what rile up the heretics. Compelling allure belies a sense of demure.
"DUMBlotta the WOMANLET", said anon the overweight. But her skin is DELICATE and her physique is so GREAT it causes Nier's teeth to GRATE.

BOOOOOOOOM AND ABSQUATULATE, ILLITERATE!
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KEN NO CHIKAI O IMA KOSO
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>>488361592
With the power of my cock I will heal her
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PERMANENT
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>>488361592
Feels good being a Charlotta and Zoi fag instead
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>>488367781
>Feels good liking a womanlet with a complex and a complete fucking retard
Huh...
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>>488368102
Talk shit about my wives again and I'm going to have to beat your ass
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>>488368663
I'm just telling the truth.
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>>488361592
Bad Person Disorder
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>>488368917
Nier has a very serious case of Bad Person Disorder, yes.
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>>488361592
but anon thats the best part. from experience I can tell you after their schizo meltdown these girls will always come crawling back when the guilt hits them. They get all weepy and apologetic and thats when peak sexo times happen.
ever had a girl beg you not to leave her while you were dicking her down? shit is addictive.
in summary, don't care still gonna marry nier and dick her down on the daily
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>>488369496
>someone actually consumed a decade of this slop "writing" just to watch their game slowly become peak homofaggotry
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>>488369573
Not worth it.
None of the good parts are worth it.
Never again.
Granblue Fantasy Versus Rising.
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>>488369861
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Talk about the game or fuck off. Ive been a part of this general lurking for a week and I cannot believe the things you guys type about cartoon children. I am going to leave this place and go back to Tekken if you guys dont clean up your acts next thread.
Karl
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Sorry, Ill change and improve as a person by tomorrow.
John Granblue
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>>488370006
Karyl*
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>>488370006
Don't care didn't ask
niiadayo has nice titties
im going to marry her
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The signature shit is so fucking dumb and braindead and yet it's so fucking funny to me. Specially the fucking "Karl" because I imagine the dumb kot face saying that.
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>>488369573
>when the guilt hits them
cluster Bs are not capable of feeling guilty
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>>488370006
Yeah, the harvins in this game are fucking hot, man
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It's late, anon

No one would know if you took your dick out and started stroking...
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watashi ha nezumiku desu. i wanto sexo ratto desu
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>>488371235
god i'm fucking retarded i meant to post this image with that but i clicked the wrong button
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welp nezu's drinking tonight abandon the thread.
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>>488371218
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>>488371218
>It's late, anon
Oh wow would you look at the time it IS late. I really should be going to bed immediately. Thank you for the helpful advice Narmaya!
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>>488369956
Nier (dayo) cheeks
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Nier cannot be fixed.
She LITERALLY tells you this herself.
Stop.
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>>488372562
Her ears are so cute, I love the fuzzy edge and different color they have.
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>>488370757
>picrel is behind all the shitposting in /gbvsg/
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I know how to deal with kots.
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>>488370006
You can go back to the very first Rising /gbvsg/ thread and read what was posted. you have a few months worth of game debate.
ganbare anon
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>>488373450
>telling anon to go through the Katalina posting and Vira bonerhate arc
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grim
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>>488373591
nier
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>>488372884
yes you can tell niers ears would feel very nice
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All Narmaya players in this thread are literally picrel
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shut up jim
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>>488371218
only if you beat me in a ft5
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>>488375484
Im sorry I clogged the toilet mom.
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afk in queue huh? hahahahahahah
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This is going to be our new shop outfit right?
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>>488374552
Narmaya player here
It's true, can confirm.
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>>488374552
Literally me depression posting after jobbing in ranked all day.
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>>488362376
Zooey's centaur form genuinely looks like it was made by an AI.
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>>488369496
Those kills were grub villagers, they 100% had it coming, they are the scum of the earth.
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>>488377194
Even the children?
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is zeta hard to play? that alternate costume is very nice looking
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>>488378085
doing all the optimal shit on her is more involved than most characters.
if you just want to be an unga bunga retard with arvess that is not very hard.
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>>488378085
Told myself to keep it short and proceeded to write an essay, just to delete it all over again and again.
Short answer: somewhat. Not the most difficult execution-wise, although some of the advanced stuff can be very finicky. High risk, high reward character. Very rewarding and fun if you can get some good Zeta-stuff going, sometimes frustrating as well.

One thing I haven't seen anyone praising with this character is the good amount of self-expression with her.
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>>488378752
>>488378558
well im fine playing like a retard, i just dont know what her optimal / hard combos even look like.
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>>488377781
Especially the children.
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>>488379190
The training mode has a combo that ends with her SSBA and is pretty good. Maybe not the best in terms of damage. But pretty much all of her EX-skills flow into each other in some way, one of her strengths is that she can cycle through her skills while doing combos and have them ready for the next time. You just need to be aware of the combo-limit and how to link them.

This may be as good as an introduction as any
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fujhECvsdro

Also, what you really want to learn is how to end your corner combos for an oki-setup with 66U. Webm-related is from a helpful Zeta-anon.
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>>488379383
W-What did they do...
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>>488370006
I don't believe any of your posts are real, but it would be cool if they were, because that would be funny.
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>>488379841
thanks anon, i dont know if ill main her but i definitely do want to learn playing her
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>>488381996
Clean it up, janny
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>>488381996
that's a pig
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I dreamt that project L will be the next edating game
what a nightmare
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>>488384016
How can we edate if the game doesn't have real lobbies?
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>>488384110
The same way v*lorant players do it
The possibility scares me
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>>488378085
Hardest and most extensive combo list in the game. Hardest confirm (f.L > 214HL). Probably the least forgiving character for wish confirming. Also the lack of 7 and 8 frame mediums forces you to abare or stagger with f.L only, so you have to learn one hit confirming with f.L. Also awkward 66L confirms for the same reason. Rhapsody is a massive labbing time sink. A lot of her moveset heavily favors good reactions. For example, reacting to whats going on after rhapsody, confirming if TKj22H or 623H did a clean hit, so you can either back off earlier or do 8H to convert into full combo. Floaty jumps, so you have to rely on reacting with j.22x instead. U Skills are fast and can be used as a reaction to a lot of situation. F-shikis.
So, she should be like one of the hardest characters if not the hardest character to play at top level.
>Source: le pan
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>>488384341
>Probably the least forgiving character for wish confirming.
What.
>Also the lack of 7 and 8 frame mediums forces you to abare or stagger with f.L only
Your sweep?
What the fuck am I reading
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>>488384341
>Also awkward 66L confirms for the same reason
Just use c.M.
>>488384531
He means her c.M and f.M. Yeah, it's a shit button for a character that is supposed to play at mid-range.
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>>488384246
h-how
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>>488384531
>What
He did clarify that doing 623H on block is extremely risky once your opponent have 50% or when backed to corner.
>Sweep?
I think it has less range range than 2L, so it gets stuffed in stagger most of the time
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I know this is completely off-topic, but need to vent: they have been drilling above and next to my flat the whole day, starting every morning, since the start of the week, until the very evening hours. Multiple drills, at the same time, an entire concert.
These are small flats, I have no idea what there is to drill every day. Every working hour
It's driving me nuts.
Not even a NEET, I work from home. Which makes it worse.
/blog
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In any case, I'm baking. Anything new to add to the OP?
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>>488388589
Can't you complain to the police or landlord or whatever?
You can also try challenging them to a FT10 to make them stop.
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>>488389041
kots
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>they don't even tease new shit anymore
>it's just a story cutscene from part 2
Holy shit I hate their retarded marketing team
https://x.com/gbvs_official/status/1818575076247453849
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>>488389391
Alright: >>488389823
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>>488389705
>they don't even tease new shit
They already showed all the new shit. What do you want, a video showcasing how Sieg unblockable is now 1 frame slower?



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