Issue #220: Alliances Edition>Official Site and Discordhttps://www.marvelsnap.com/https://discord.com/invite/97HFh4BXe8>Basics (Tutorial and Collection Progression)https://www.marvelsnap.com/howtoplayhttps://outof.cards/marvel-snap/guides/256-how-progression-works-in-marvel-snap/>Collection Trackerhttps://marvelsnapzone.com/collection/>Resourceshttps://snap.fan/decks/meta/https://marvelsnap.pro/meta/https://marvelsnapzone.com/metagame/https://twitter.com/SnapDecks>FAQ>What is Marvel Snap?The GOTY CCG from the creators of Hearthstone. A deck is 12 card singleton. Players play 6 simultaneous turns to 3 lanes. Winning 2 lanes wins the match. Matches are played for ladder ranks (cosmic cubes) and players can SNAP once per match to double the stakes (max 8 cubes).>What is a card series?Cards unlock in a random order, but specific cards are unlocked within specific collection level (CL) ranges: Series 1 cards (CL 18-214), Series 2 (222-474), and Series 3 (474+). Series 4 (Rare) and 5 (Super Rare) drop through a 'Spotlight Cache' starting at CL500: https://marvelsnapzone.com/spotlight-caches-details-drop-rates-and-card-acquisition-changes>How can I increase my CL faster?Upgrade every card you get to green rarity (frame break) ASAP. Spend the rest of your credits how you like.>When should I snap?https://marvelsnapzone.com/the-ultimate-snapping-strategy-guide-for-marvel-snap/>Whose cards reveal first?The player who is currently winning reveals first. Otherwise at random. The player revealing first has a glowing portrait.>What should I spend my gold on?Variants and bundles with tokens. Mission refreshes.>How do I recognize a bot?https://marvelsnapzone.com/bots-in-marvel-snap-a-comprehensive-guide/Official /snap/ Alliances: [VGS] /snap/, [VGS] /snap/'s Revenge, [VGS] /snap/'s Step SisterThe only requirement is that you be active.>Comic Recshttps://comraderecs.tumblr.com/post/18865607172/marvel-comic-recommendationsPrevious: >>488218045
/snap/'s Step Sista only has a couple of spots left.Join up before you are left out.
Which one bros?
>>488490275Left, and its a good use of those since they suck mostly.
>>488490315u rite
Rate Mirage's new look. Also stat him.>When you discard this, replace it with the card that costs the least from your opponent's hand. Give it +4 Power.
>>488490902These rewards are pretty fucking bad for how much effort they collectively take.It should be at minimum 100 credits, 100 credits,, 250 credits, 500 credits.
Make sure to log in and claim your 25 credits! 8 minutes to go!
>>488491042didn;t mean to reply
>>488490902I thought Mirage was a woman
>>488491042Yeah. I'm hoping they are small rewards this week just because they want to give everyone a chance to get into a clan and that next week they improve them a bit.
>>488491671Mirage is in the book, but the person in that picture is Apocalypse son.
>>488491714Some redditor did the math and it would take at minimum all 30 people getting 500 points a day to get the variant.Obviously we have guys who are doing more than that per day, but still it's actually a lot
>>488491232Make sure to log in and claim your 25 credits before going to sleep>>488491671was
oh man i just remembered evil afro adam warlock. that and the rule 63 one need to be variants.
>>488492638idk who that is kissing death's hand but she's cute
>>488492638Wouldn't R63 Adam Warlock just be Her?
>>488493078that's "the goddess". just like how he cast out all his evil and that evil known as the Magus grew an afro(there's also the magus that is said to be evil adam from the future) he also cast out all his good and that good was a girl for some reason.
>>488493370Her is like a trans twin sister
>>488492638>That time Adam was the Living TribunalAt least we got Logos out of it.
hope scarlet spider actually is a diner reward. a good card for relatively free when i already got skaar and white widow is great.
Bots do the darndest things
>>488493472>good was a girl for some reason.Because girls are good duh
It's an insane amount for 'weekly' rewards.
>>488491976well yeah, it's 30 people all getting 4000 points - the same amount to cap out personal rewards will cap out a full alliance's rewards toothey really need to rebalance some of the quests is the bigger issue - moving 7 cards can be a herculean task in a fair number of games, and needing to do it multiple times for the higher rarity quests sucks big
>>488498453Its only herculean if you are playing the "good version" of move decks. But if you play OCK'D AND VROCK'D you can actually do this in 7 games because you will literally never lose.
>>488498782He makes a good point
>He missed out on CopycatBros?
>>488500468Bro I used 3 keys and got Thanos, Cull and FUCKING NEBULA who I already own. ARGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGH
>>488500468I almost did but ended up buying her with tokens before the spotlight ended
>>488500468I was going to skip her but this thread convinced me to spend some keys on her.I got her, Cull and Thanos. I had none of them before this spotlight.
>>488501406Cull and Crossbones are unironically underrated. You just have to not play them in decks that sorely need the 4 drop position.
>>488502158Good cards, but 10 power (fucking bonkers) seems a bit low nowadays on a 4 cost, doesn't help that Thanos sucks
Moments before distaster.
>>488485554the legion bundle isn't great value or anything but it IS half a series 5 and a key so I'll probably pick it up
Are the 3 cards in the spotlight rows not guaranteed? It sounds like people roll when they unlock a slot.
>>488505446You have a 1/4th chance of getting a specific card from the Spotlight with your first key. Once you spend that key then you have a 1/3rd chance of getting the 3 remaining options.So you will get everything in the Spotlight if you spend 4 keys. If you spend less then that then you can't guarantee what you get from the Spotlight because the 4th slot is always a random Series 4 or Series 5 card.
>>488505446you have a 25% chance of rolling each card in the first row. within 4 rolls you will have all 3 cards plus the random series 4/5 guaranteed. after clearing the first row you then can spend more keys on the second row which is a bad idea unless you're pretty much collection complete and even then it's like... why?
>>488505446it's rigged, all weighted, random card is a dupe, also weighted more on the series 4s than 5s
>the bounty desync is realWhat would be the best way to counteract it for the moment? And I'm hoping it's only for the moment.Relogging every time I make progress with them? Relogging after claiming one?I stayed up an extra hour last night to grind 'em, now I feel like wrung out shit on my way to work, and it didn't even matter.
>>488506659I click back to main page after each collect and before each new bounty. It sucks but beats thinking I'm working toward an 8-match bounty when I am not.
>>488506659The what?
>>488508949you claim/finish/accept all your bounties at once, you leave the page, 1 or 2 come back and becomes unclaimed, you have to go back and claim it again>>488506659games been seriously slow in all aspects, the collection track is super slow at giving rewards rn
holy shit that OTA leak, just wow
>>488510416link?
>>488510416AJAX SUMMER
OTA is a big one tonight, streamers are told it's huge and can't leak anything..
>>488510416TL;DRWhy the fuck did they need to change so many cards?
Post it you fucks, I don't know where you go to see it early
3 days left, tempted to buy chicken deathlok from the store..
>>488513678Honestly 6 variants (really 5 because lol Hulkbuster) and 3000 credits is pretty good.
>LOKIS GETTING NERFEDOHNONONO LOKIBROS
>>488514140at least it draws a card now, silver lining
OCK'D AND VROCK'D BABY
LOKIBROS... ITS OVER!!!!!!
WHERES THE LEAK FUCKERS
>Arismem untouched>Loki literally nerfed to deathIt's so fucking stupid
>>488512914they're not *told*, partners do get to see OTAs in advance so that they can prepare their content faster, it's the only real benefit of being a partner basically. what i hate the most though is that they will create hype for nothing, last time someone said the OTA was going to be huge we got like FOUR useless changes... i bet today's OTA will be disappointing as usual, unless they buff my waifu, the gorgeous emma frost
>>488516053They're just making shit up
>>488510546The info comes from the discord, they only gave clues, 7 cards got changed.>2 cards buffed (numbers change)>5 cards changed (nerfed), all related to Arishem, including Loki (part of the change is that now will draw a card, and not confirmed but apparently the cost reduction may only last 1 turn)
>>488516636>5 cards changed (nerfed)OckLeechCoulsonLokiQuin
>>488516053Some random furry on discord
>>488517146>revert from the past>number changesprobably black bolt
>>488517146they buff move coz of all losers doing move quests data
>Loki rework involves drawing cardsso no more hand transform? He's just a draw card now? Adam Warlock BTFO>Draw and apply cost reduction for a turn?That's gay
>>488516691I hope they don´t fuck up my favorite heroes Coulson and Quinjet. They don´t have suffer for Arishem and Loki´s sins.
>>488517606That's how SD usually nerfs big archetypes sadly, see Angela, Sentry as well as Blob & Mockingbird last week
>>488517146Calling it now, Apocalypse is one of the buffed cards.
>>488517789Good call, 6/6 is so dumb
>>488517575Discordfag said it was a "mini rework", so the text very well could be: draw a card, transform your hand, -1 cost next turn.
>>488517934Fuck idk, that sounds better, Loki without card generations since he does it himself? Wtf
>>488517606A pure SHIELD deck is fair as fuck, I sincerely hope they aren't nerfed.
LOLE
i'm already bored of doing these fucking quests
thank you Arishem very cool
>>488523374did you win?
>>488517146>no hits to thena/kittyGUT THAT BITCH ASS THENA PLEASE AAAHHHHHHHHH JUST FUCKING GUT HER SO BAD AAAAAAAAA
>>488523829turns out that -2 on all opp cards and spamming blobs is pretty strong, yes
LOKIbros.. It's been a ride... Now it's over...
>>488525847I'll believe it when I see it
Is Snap Step Sisters the best of the 3?
>>488517146I wanted to comment on the Loki change, but I know how that would go in this thread, so I'll keep it to myself.As for the mystery revert, my money is on Galactus going back to 6/7.I dunno how Darkhawk did after his nerf but before the Arishem craze, but they function kind of similarly to Cassandra, no way they'd buff him back on her release week.Other than that, yeah, probably BB or Apocalypse.
>>488530824>>I wanted to comment on the Loki change, but I know how that would go in this thread, so I'll keep it to myself.Just tell us m8, only a few hours until leaks anyway>As for the mystery revert, my money is on Galactus going back to 6/7.Would love it desu
>>488530824I don't think it's Galactus, with the Moon Knight change I think it's safe to assume they're looking at discard so it's probably Apocalypse
>>488530824fuck you nigger, loki should've been changed day fucking 1
I liked playing snap until this patch. Playing dogshit decks in pg gives me aids. At least in hearthstone you can do this shit in a friendly battle (against your twink acc ofc)
>>488533471Cool it brother, he's not YoWoodyMJ.
>>488533619I've been saying this for a while but the daily system is by far the worst thing about snapcoupled with spotlights you're forced to take it up the ass by shit metas for months on end until you burn out, adding even more tedium is NOT IT
>>488533619The quests are fine, but the requirement to win the games is a bit much. Especially quests like that where you have to use the worst move cards
Whoever that cunt who plays blue marvel in silver surfer is, I know where you live and you will wish SD would just let me flame you instead
Whoever finishes bottom in alliances leaderboard should have to give whoever finished top a blowjob
>>488543931Oh no I lost haha
>>488531021>>488533471lol i just wanted to say that i think him getting the "until next round" hammer is absolutely deserved and in line with beast and black swancan't convince me why an on reveal effect should retain cost reduction for longer than the next turn>but muh randomnessif you really cared about that, you wouldn't be playing him in the first place, also the RNG is a major weapon in your favor against decks that run counters to their own strategy (e. g. super skrull in TLT), because for your opponent there is no 100% way to know what you rolled until you play it
>>488544274Time to get out the Carol cosplay haha oh no
>>488543931which alliance?
>>488545304All of them
god they really shouldnt neuter too many cards here. i hope they're nerfs like blob where the card is still good but not insane.
>>488548190Why shouldn't they? The meta is god awful.
>>488548190Hope they neter series 5 cards so all the paypigs would seethe.
one of the recent cards that i find crazy strong is nocturne, yet it's funny that she's completely overshadowed by cards that are hyper turbo retarded
>>488549920nuter the power or drop a ton down a tear?
>>488550250She is the best card in the game unironically
>>488550463Drop them down a tear. Series 5 are supposed to be t he "big bad guy" cards, but now its just SSR units in a gacha game.
>>488551264>>488550463Tier
Get super fucked
dazzler is so fucking hot bros
>>488551583no, you heard menutter them, then drop tear
>>488552629winning a 50/50 isn't deserving of bragging imo...
>>488553652
>>488553652NOT my problem
JESUS CHRIST SNAP IN PG YOU FUCKING RETARDS
>>488554337i think we're gonna see a lot less of that with the alliance grind
How is the economy of the game currently after alliance update? I quit playing exactly one year age because it was impossible to grind for cards
>>488554337No, I have 16 shuri games to win and you’re gonna sit through all of them
>>488555426you will get maybe 500 additional credits a week thanks to the new changes assuming you max out personal bounties, alliance bounties, and get every 8 hour free 25 credits. it's not nothing. it will lead to more average keys a week over time.but it's not a significant change.
Alliance rewards are kind of jank I feel.>Win 8 cubes 3 times>50 points>For 2000 points get 50 creditsLike what the fuck lol>For 5000 points you get…
>>488555426Spotlight caches have made getting good cards easier but the game absolutely drip feeds you tokens so the grind is worse in many respects.Alliances get you 200 credits (fucking nothing) and some boosters assuming you get max rewards
>>488556005They're apparently committed to improving alliances, so we'll see if that includes the rewards.
>>488555426Also, Albums are variant collection sets based on certain themes (artist, gimmick, etc) that provide rewards depending on how much you complete them. These range from purely cosmetic stuff like portraits and variants to currencies such as Collector’s tokens, to more premium items like all new emotes and even Series 5 cards.
>>488557420the same way they are thinking about improving card acquisition?
>>488557857i do genuinely believe them on that front because if they want the game to grow they need to advertise heavily and it needs to be approachable. they are trying to wring the current playerbase out before doing something a lot more friendly money wise.
>>488556005If they were good people would complain that they're missing out by not being in an alliance
>>488556038>Spotlight caches have made getting good cards easierexcept that this is only true when you don't own any of the cards in a week's spotlight.Which barely happen, even for casual players, as those SD turds put over and over and over the cards that everyone already owns and strategically avoid the ones people actually want (nocturne, the card that everyone wants is in no spotlight leaked so far)
Leaked OTA>Loki 4/5 3/5 swap your (deck) from (hand) to your opponent starting hand that cost 1 less , draw a card .>Doctor octopus 5/10 4/8 pull the lowest power card of your opponent hand to this location .>Blob Merge card until 13 from 15 .>Leech 5/5 4/4 remove the text of all 6 cost card>Apocalypse 6/6 6/8>Widow kiss -4 -3 >War machine 4/6 4/7
>>488561136Loki switches out your deck with the opponent's starting HAND?Seems pretty shit if so
>>488555986>>488556038>>488557780Thanks. I won't return to playing then
Done with my 4k, surely i won't have to do more missions for my pixel/hipp variant
>>488561136>kill ock and leech for arishem’s sinsBased. Mana cheaters stay winning
>>488561492No, instead of replacing your hand he replaces your deck with cheaper copies of your opponents cards. Might still be good enough for Arishem
>>488562176no one cares
So instead of just nerfing Arishem, they're nerfing every card that is played in Arishem?
>>488561136>OCK'D AN—ACK!
>>488564481Arishem was never the issue. Those other cards were.
>>488564802Because those cards saw SO much play before Arishem was released right?
>>488564875Loki? Yeah
>>48856480260% of players have Doc Ock in their deck? Get real
>>488564875Confirmed for not playing the game.
>>488561136worth noting Leech affects your 6 costs too, so you can play destroyer without downside
>>488561136Apocalypse was already strong desu, now instead of Dracula being a 4/16 he'll be a 4/18Widows kiss is fair, doesn't kill the card but needs it a bit.That Leech change is kinda crazy though. It just instantly kills Destroy now lol
>>488564924>>488564990Doc was only seen in clog decks and Loki was only ever popular in high infinite. Neither have ever been anywhere close to the play levels since Arishems release. Confirmed shitters telling on themselves.
>>488564875Yes, they did. Both of them always found homes in ramp decks and carried them with premium disruption.
>>488565569Holy liar
>>488565607>>488565631shitters alert
>>488564481Yes. They can't sell you Doctor Octopus or Leech.
Arishem was already falling off, with these nerfs Angela/Thea small things deck will prob be the new best deck, so what counters that?
>>488565215does it? it just kills knull and arnim zola. buffed deadpool and death are still win conditions for destroy.
>>488566441Destroy puts out more power. So does Discard.Mobius kills Ravonna.
>>488566441they buffed shadow king in anticipation of that
>>488566441Thena was already the best deck in the game
>>488567225You guys say this but yet I rarely see it and when I try to play it I get shit on by destroy.
>>488566473Destroy already gets hurt by Shadow King and Shang being more prevalent now. Before you were afraid to Shang them because of Knull but now with leech turning off Knull you don't have to care about that.
>>488568436You rarely see it because it’s fucking expensive
>>488565017And Infinaut. Could be cool.
>>488568629would anyone even run speicfically anti-6cost leech when the decks without 6 costs are more popular and that's will become even more the case?
>>488569262They don’t care if the card is good or not because you get it for free.
>>488569262I mean Red Hulk and Blob are still around (Blob will still be played after the nerf). Thanos is still seeing play, it outright stops Tribunal and Hela. It's a powerful effect to blanket wipe all 6 costs off the board.
>>488569262Only destroy, ramp, Hela and Arishem heavily rely on 6 costsApo-discard also suffers a bitThenafags about to become a new level of cancerOn the good side, Zoo remains reliable as always
>>488570618Thanos isn’t affected by getting leeched
What are the arishemfags going to do now that they don't have free win cards ?
>>488570618all the thena decks will be the bigger threat though. for a card that does nothing in a lot of matchups it wouldn't be as useful as mobius. especially when it wants to come down later
>>488570915Play the next free win cards
>goose, storm, juggernaut auto-complete a deck for alliance missions >expect some kind of control deck>get thisYeah, I don't know about this one...
They should buff Mobius to 2 costAlso, is the Taskmaster bundle worth it? Can't afford Destroyer or Legion and while the variant looks cool as fuck 4k credits for 5k gold doesn't seem too good
>>488570726Wdym? He's a 6 cost, why wouldn't he be affected?>>488570989Maybe, but like that other anon said it affects your 6 costs too, so maybe Destroyer will find some relevance again and he'll end up winning some matchups purely for having Leech.
>>488571757>is the Taskmaster bundle worth it?snap.fan says its worth it.
>>488566560don't play destroycopycat stealing zola/knull is a fucking nightmare
>>488572312Thanos effect's shoving the stones in your deck, the stone effects affect him after they're playedSo as long as his name's Thanos it's all goodOnly Spiderman can fuck him over
>>488572673*Spiderham
>>488571757>>488572553the one after that is 3k tokens and a spotlight key
>>488572673Oh I see now. I thought it would stop power stone but I guess not.
>>488490902Would it take the card from their hand? That would be pretty busted.
>>488566473It should also disable Death's discount.
>>488574225tell me what death's cost is
>>488574225
>>488561136>It’s real I pinned Loki too baka
>>488573078I would value tokens above keys, since you can actually use token to get the cards you want 100% of the time
>>488577159I’d say a key outranks 1k tokens though
OTA WHEN?i want to see these dumbasses try to explain why they nerf Doc Oct and not Arishem besides the obvious greed.
>>488491232i hate this humilation ritual
Isn't new doc ock low key better as a clog piece in arishem? it's more consistent less dangerous and you can slap turn 3with the other clog pieces you could fill up pretty quick i think
but doc ock has 4 metal tentacles... why is he only pulling out 1 card??
Bros......where's the OTA
>>488578283Not really. Filling the location was more important than Ock even surviving. Also gets raped by goblins
>>488579174the loki lobby of high level players made a call
>>488579402And they said it wasn't real
>>488579402>>488579459After further review, we have decided to keep one change in the OTALoki is now 3/5
Did they forget that it was OTA day?
>today's login variant doesn't count towards the deadpool albumfuck you SD
>>488580712it's not something you purchase, it makes sense they wouldn't want it to count
>>488580896No it doesn't because the penny arcade variant was a twitch drop and it counts. So does Wolverine's twitch drop variant. It counts towards his album.
>>488580896All variants for a card should count. Most likely it's just a bug like what happened with the Wolverine album
>>488581270>mentally blocked out he paid for a penny arcade variantunderstandable
>roll 1 of my 4 keys hoping for the incredibly strong Proxima Midnight>end up with the useless Hope SummersIts over for me.Anyways, should I buy Copycat while I still have time?
>>488583478proxima is not that good but maybe discard comes back a bit with the apoc buff idk.
Are the devs the laziest motherfuckers alive?
>>488581931i have never bought a deadpool variant
>>488561136Loki retards on suicide watch. Broken since day 1 and the soft nerfs did nothing. It's finally over.
>>488583969>you now remember the loki 3/5 while also buffing collector days
I just noticed that Captain Marvel is on this card. Why does she cameo in so many other cards?
>>488584118>Four brown characters>And Captain Marvel???
>>488584118the real question is why is black panther there
>>488583874you lost
>>488584498I straight up didn't buy it though wtf, i have never bought any bundles other than the welcome bundle. I don't know why i have it. Also you're forgetting that the Wolverine twitch drop does count towards his album and you didn't have to buy that one either
>>488584118She's Marvel's flagship character of course.
Give me a deck to win infinite conquest with.Hard mode: it cant have Thena or Nocturne
>>488584242>>488584349Carol picked Black Panther, he picked Spectrum, she picked Blue Marvel, and he picked America Chavez for some reason.Then Galactus got on the team after they saved him from his hunger.
>>488585430Junk
>>488585430
>>488585456It is a crime we don't have more kenneth rocafort variants in-game.
>>488584118she's marvel's roman reigns of course
>>488585456how did that book wrap up? that started right around the time I was falling out of comics, but I liked it's initial direction
>>488585774I thought people liked Roman Reigns now though? idk i haven't watched wrestling in years other than that match he had with Cody Rhodes at Wrestlemania
>>488585585you seriously won Infinite Conquest with basic Destroy? what cl, because i'm only 5.k but every single person i play in any conquest is minimum 10
>>488586067Infinite Conquest isn't as hard as you think it isTop shelf destroy also has a lot of different ways to win
>>488585932he gets cheered when he isn't being pushed as the center of the brand and is given an actual character. just like cena and carol before the threw the captain marvle name on her.
>>488586067Destroy is strong when no one is playing Arishem
>>48858606713k. As long as they're not running Armor (and even then you can play around it) and you don't draw like absolute shit then destroy is still a great deck
>>488586067Destroy can be nigh unbeatable in a lot of matchups and infinity conquest has a decent amount of luck involved anyway
>>488584118She's in the new Absorbing Man variant too>>488585801It got super cosmic, they met the 1610 Ultimates and together defeated the embodiment of the first version of reality
>>488586423that's my secret captain: i always draw like absolute shit
Man it doesn't look nearly as good inked
Was there no OTA today?
>>488587358For comparison
>>488586767She's also on Rian Gonzalez Spider-Woman variantShe's on Rian Gonzalez GooseShe's on Rocafort Infinaut
>>488587403There was supposed to be, nobody knows what's going on
Snap retard here, just started last week and going for Cassandra. Do purchased bubs with gold count towards bubs earned? I'm about to break 1m it says I can buy like 3m for 700 gold, wasn't sure if those count or if you have to earn them from wins. Currently still risking it in the Kebab playlist cause I don't want to go bankrupt in the next one over.
>>488588074Yes they do
>>488587358>>488587579Inked variants are overrated, they're just the least shit option.
>>488588074Man I should really get back to donating to help my bros out who didn't exploit, but they made it so tedious
>SD drawing out the actual impactful loki nerf to the final fucking seconds
>>488589446I'm not even sure where to queue at, I've been doing Ice Cream now and made it up to 2.4m but just lost 900k, starting to retreat now cause I'm scared to go bankrupt again.
>>488587856including SD
>>488590824>ImpactfulI predict that Loki/Arishem has no problem playing a turn 2 Loki, getting to draw into discounted, good cards instead of random garbage, while keeping a hand full of playable, good cards. It even draws you a card to get you started.Bonus points if it replaces your deck with your opponent's original and cuts you deck size in half before Cassandra hits the board LMAO
this is my first summer as a snap playerthe heat + seethe might actually kill me
>>488591824Try and relax. You're not going to win every game. Learn when to fold them and you'll be much happier.
>>488589446Found someone with the Cassandra Nova just farming people in Ice Cream, hella epic
why is junk so fucking strong against everything that isnt destroythey seriously need to bin ravonna for starters
>>488593590>Why is the archetype that makes your board unplayable strong against decks that need to play cards and not the deck that clears board spaceI don't know boss
>>488593590junk kept ggetting buffed by them constantly adding new powercreep cards to it. meanwhile they killed deathwave and then added stuff like x23 that made deadpool viable so destroy is far more invested in it's own gameplan than doing anything to stop its opponent. so the new kind of destroy that the devs obviously favor over the death decks like deathbird doesn't do anything to keep it down.
Bankrupt in bubs again, honestly this is something I shouldn't have tried just starting this game out. Time to close the game for 8 hours until i can try again.
>>488594139No need to fret, there's more than enough time to get Cassandra left
I think I'll make it to 15M but that's all I can hope for, after that I might make some degenerate plays and ride or die it out to see what happens. Bub Mart to 600k helps quite a bit
Patch is out
>>488591965if people could learn how to do that, they'd have a hell of a lot easier time in Deadpool's Diner
>Loki replaces your deck with your opponent's starting deckNice Casshawk, bro. Would be a shame if I fucking cut my deck size in half before you could play them.
>sd confirming doc ock was a niche card until arishem releaseI thought you retards said he was always popular??
>>488595052Ramp and Lockjaw put him in. Neither of those decks have been very good recently but that's also Arishem's fault.
On one hand, I'm glad that Doc Ock isn't going to completely fuck me every time anymorebut holy shit he's terrible now. He's worse Gladiator and Gladiator isn't exactly greatLoki and Leech both deserved to be put down but Doc Ock...I dunno I feel like they should have tried something more here before just deleting Doc Ock like this
>>488595539Yeah they completely killed the card
Combo chads we are finna feast.
>>488595539Shittier gladiator that has a chance of pulling goblins. No thanks.
a lokishem turd managed to snag me some bubs before the change
Good to see they nerfed ock because of arihem instead of srishem himself. Reminds me of Angela and i am sure there are other exaples I am forgetting. Sentry?
>>488596829Lockjaw dying for Thanos's sins.
>>488596829>>488596914Just remembered Quinjet for Thanos.
>>488592028It's possible to have the avatar and not the variant tbf>>488591383Queue at the 2nd highest table you can afford retreat by the end of turn 3/start of turn 4 if you have a bad had or are in a bad position. Once you get the last bub mart upgrade the grind is actually not that bad
How the fuck do people get to 10k+ cl without hitting infinite?
>>488597416Doing dailies and not caring about climbing
Is Snap saved now? or are we just gonna cry about Thena Kitty even more
>>488598142Thena kitty is broken still but at least it isn't anywhere near as depressing as arishem
>>488598142We need to wait and see, Shadow King is going to be everywhere and that´s fine
>>488597416I just play proving grounds for a casualmaxxing marvel snap experience
>>488598360nothing new when Shang exist, at least SK is nice enough to let you keep your card in part with it's base power
it's impossible to do the 8 cube missions in pgit's full of retards who won't snap unless they're sure they can win against my agatha draws
>>488598865also it's really confusing that obvious bots have alliances
>>488599965funny tom remove the external tells for a bot with every big update and yet the don't delete the dumbest types of bots from the game. or delete the bot decks that are years old and don't work anymore.
OTA with dev notes.
loki status?>loki status?loki status?>loki status?loki status?>loki status?
>>488600654Isn't Loki completely dead now? You play him and at best you draw 4 cards.
Step Sista spot open, join up.
>started playing snap after runeterra got put on maintenance mode>enjoyed it so much I started reading comics
>>488600654I agree with most of those changes but these notes always make me hate these guysonly thing I don't agree with is the doc ock change, they're changing way too many high impact cards like him and prof x, at some point all the flavour will be gonealso blob could've gotten hit even harder
hear me out thoisn't it actually good if they continue nerfing every card instead of arishem?game is full of stupid bullshit, maybe arishem is the wakeup callwho is actually upset over loki leech and ock changes?
>>488600952On the upside you get to keep your hand
>>488601432leechfag is upset
>>488601310>started playing snap on release because I like card games>to this day I know next to nothing about any of the characters because I don't like capeshit
>>488601310based Also is that true about LoR? Damn I used to love that game.
>>488601310BasedI became a Carolfag because of Marvel Heroes
>>488601432I think their reasoning for changes is correctIf Arishem continues to oppressive (impossible with Cassandra in the meta) then they can look at him
>>488601753Why does this only go up to 2019? It's been 5 years, Is nothing after that worth reading?
>>488602005It was made in 2019
>>488601432I'm only mad about Doc Ock because I have the Superior Spider-Man variant and this was the only time I've ever gotten boosters for that card.
LOKI PLAYERS IN THE GRAVE TONIGHT
>>488602760I wonder if they can cause a big enough stink to revert it or make the change less fucking drastic.Reminder this player base got them to revert MMM through the sheer amount of bitching they did.
The FemLoki variant finally showed up in my shop and now there's no point in even getting it.
Havent played in a long time (since the silver surfer season i think) and just downloaded the game again, just got Gwenppol, what are the best decks right now?, that may or not may have gwenpool in it. My sandman deck still seems useful at least but not as good as before i think, it brought me from rank 10 to 50 in a few days tho.
>>488602760>the loki trannies on suicide watchKINO
>>488603274An OTA literally just happened so nothing is established for sure, but Thena Kitty has been very strong and nothing is looking to change that
>>488603003It's sexy.Also the backlash is un fucking real so they might actually have to revert it or change it at the very least.
>You can play Loki on 2 now>All cards discounted>You get a free draw>4 turns of (a decent) deck draws inside arishem>Remove the need for card generators in the deck nowSo they killed loki in normal loki decks, only to make him even better in ArishemLolLmao
>>488602760Honestly he kinda has a point. Maybe they could've just changed Loki to changing your hand into completely random cards so he's still nerfed but still has the same type of synergies.
>>488603274Gwenpool is good in Surfer so if you have Surfer that's a good start.
>>488603823It's not the first time they functionally erase cards from the game. It's not even the second or third time. I'm just happy it finally happened to a card that deserved it
>>488603798Zabu also got a shit ton of backlash and they stuck to their guns
>>488604542Zabu wasn't an whole ass archetype though, he was just one card and him getting nerfed only really killed like 2 decks.
>>488604384Did he really deserve it? It's not like he had a crazy win rate or something. Did having your own cards used against annoy you that much?
>>488604951having one overpowered card enable you to play your entire hand in one turn isn't really an "archetype" either
>>488602975the shill side of the fanbase will stick by them and take all their justifications at face value just like happened when they removed deathwave from existence.
>>488604972No he deserved it
they'll buff ock to taking the two lowest power cards eventually. right now he's shitty gladiator.
ARISHEM LOKI COUNTERS / CASS DARKHAWKHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHTHANK YOU SD
>>488602760this is deliciousimagine how rotten a brain that piloted loki for 10 months is
>>488606548Not really, Cass Darkhawk can win against non Arishem decks so it just becomes a mirror match but with your Darkhawk and Cassandra basically guaranteed to be smaller than the Darkhawk player's
>>488602975>Reminder this player base got them to revert MMM through the sheer amount of bitching they did.the MMM situation was much worse than current Loki, SD has already shown that they can kill a card at any moment, but in MMM's case it was barely a month after release and they killed him after him being a must include the moment he got released, meaning people were "forced" to spend keys on him.Loki has been released for quite a while with very light changes where removing his interaction with Colector was the biggest hit. So I don't think most players really have a reason to be mad at this
kneel before the best staple in the game rn
Damn they finally gutted Loki for popular demand Also lol that ock nerf when was that when he was squeezing my ballx
I can't believe they killed Loki...
You can Phastos after LOki nowDamnKino
Arishem is still broken
doc + selene sounds fun
>>488614282NahHe's fixed now, leave him alone...
>>488614597No, he's still too strong.
So whats the new Loki deck? You include Crystal or something?
I have never seen a real player play America Chavez post nerf
>>488615350ArishemLolLoki is no longer an archetype you build around or build into, he's just a card you chuck in any deck and play if you feel like you need to, at least he isn't until we get proper draw cards in the game but that would never happen
Does nuLoki mean that CollectorLoki is back? Kinda like weird world?
>>488615771No because you still draw the cards
>>488601707Game was too F2P friendly and was losing money like crazy
>>488616651Then they tried to go the complete opposite direction and pissed off the playerbase right before going under
>opponent snaps>i hit undo end turn because i changed my mind and wanted to play on center>galactus' stupid animation glitches it out and it won't let me undofucking epic
>>488615970I wish they would have let that count but Loki makes that too strong now.
>>488618180He gets +1 on the initial draw from Loki but not on subsequent ones. It's weird and probably a bug
ok ock still feels playable in clog related decksloki is a new beast nowleech is the only one that feels like he has no real home. overall decent changes honestly.
>>488620385I think they deliberately murdered leech just because he is so hated.
Cassandra needs nerfing
>>488620385If Leech removed your own 6 costs' text too like we thought he would after the initial leak then he would have had a place in a new type of Destroyer deck
>>488621195She needs a dicking (from me)
>>488620385Leech kills people playing Apocalypse right now, he also is the first real counter to Hela.
>>488587358inked are worse than default on a good variant about 80-90% of the time. Most of the variants I enjoy look best as they are default. I wish you could us Kirby crackle with default backgrounds
>>488568436> but yet I rarely see itlow mmr most likelyThena is rampant and the best thena decks are a struggle to beat usually
>>488622685Can you post one or link to one of these Thena decks?
>>488601039he's 100% rightHe says some stupid things and has numerous bad takes but in general he is pretty good at his job. Better than average in the industry. Now only if the rest of Second Dinner was as competent we might be cooking
is it just more or should leech have included 5 cost cards too?
>>488621715but leech hits infinaut again and hela plays infinaut.
>>488624650They could have made him like a reverse alioth, where the first card the opponent plays on the location he's played on loses its text
>>488624650too broad, they want people playing him LESS
wtf, thena is still completely broken? I thought not nerfing any of the cards would have had an effect.
>>488625272They buffed shadow kang
>>488625396Balancing by making a tech card a necessity isn't good balancing
HOW?? In conquest so not a bot.
>>488625947he only plays conquest and enjoys himself
>>488625982And misses out on 90% of the actual decent rewards every season?
>>488626090he spends money to get his gold and credits. the mythical whale who would rather not engage with ladder.
a lot of trash that needs to be taken off the board for alliance 1
>>488627403I've done a shit ton of move ones so I'm taking a break from shitty decks
>>488627403win 8 cubes has been one of the easiest for me so far since playing for 8 cubes is simply standard etiquette in proving grounds
>>488627403I don't have Havok. I do have War Machine though i guess i can try it.But TBF I am top 3 in bounties, so i am pulling my weight
They killed my deck, what do i do now
>>488628909dont be a fag
HELLO HELLOHELLO HELLOHELLO HELLOHELLO HELLO
>>488629261*shangs u*
>>488628909I removed the shield cardsThe thing that annoyed me the most about old loki was him replacing a good hand, don't have to worry about that anymore
>>488628909Keep mutilating your genitalia, making story focused indie games and grooming kids with the rest of your kind Arishemtrannie
>>488629514Obssesed
>>488629491I have never understood why people run Phastos in Arishem. You do realize having a bigger deck LOWERS your chance to high roll with him, right? Also new Loki and Phastos in the same deck lmao
>>488628909Sit on a tack and spin on it, Arishit.
>>488630858because you might get to play him on 2 (lol, lmao) and maybe get 1 more draw of buffed cards
>>488630858Phastos is just generically good if you can play him on turn 1 or turn 2. After that you just ignore him if you draw him.
Ghost runners are so gay man wtf
>>488635191Wrong thread, ignore this
I think new Loki has some potential. Just tried him in a devil dino deck. I lost every game but hey.
>>488635667I'm still playing him in arishem and he has been preforming pretty well
>>488635667>>488635773*her*her*she
I prefer Loki this way. Should've been like this from the start, Lokifags were unscathed for far too long, suck SHIT FAGS!ALL HAIL ARISHEMALL HAIL ARISHEM
>>488635667I fought a chink with Arishem-Loki in conquestIt's more busted than old Loki, didn't help that he got Quinjet Loki on perfect curve 3 out of the 4 gamesStill won due to locations
>>488636431Loki is still winning
>>488636923Solely in Arishem decks yesALL HAIL ARISHEMALL HAIL ARISHEM
Is it finally time to put Adam Warlock into our Arishem decks? His synergy with new Loki is undeniable.
>>488637241Hard to make it work, how often are you going to have both Warlock and Loki in hand
>>488637404As often as I say I will, gotdangit.
>>488637001why didn't i pull for arishem...i thought he was a meme........
>>488638984he was until he wasn't, that is to say he was a meme until he released and then he wasn't a meme anymore just like cannonball
>>488638984I only spent tokens on him specifically because this thread told me he was going to be good. I thought having a 24 card deck would be too random to win consistently.
Stopped playing around hit monkey's battle pass. Anything I should know/do? I still have some decks but not sure how good they are, although seems like they are ok to finish missions (elektro, sera, dino, darkhawk)
>>488639703sera and darkhawk are the only viable ones out of the bunchElectro is crept by hope and corvusDino is crept to death
>>488639703>Anything I should know/do?Just play, the game has changed a lotYour darkhawk deck is probably good stil
>>488639703Hawk will still be good. Jury is out on if Sera control or Dino is currently good.
Just started playing today, kind of sad that my favorite Marvel character is just a boring ol vanilla
>>488640195you need high evolutionary to make him good unfort
>>488640195Just wait till you unlock high evo and suddenly he becomes one of the best 3 drops in the game
>>488640195There's a card you can unlock later (way later) that "evolves him" gives him and a few other cards, and gives you a whole ass archetypehttps://snap.fan/cards/HighEvolutionary/
is this nigga worth the 3k? I was saving up for Thena and some other undecided 6 cost, but his ability seems cool
>>488640290>>488640305>>488640320Then this is what I work towards. Thanks bros.
>>488640918He's been out for months, you ever see anybody playing him?
>loki got reworked before kangAlso, how did they to this in an OTA?Isn't it for number changes and stuff?
>>488641207before arishem, yeah
I WILL NOW FOREVER HATE ARISHEM FOR KILLING DOC OCK
Reading all this copium about how A-OKAY Loki was and crying about the nerf is so funnyTODAY WAS A GOOD DAY
>>488641361Doc Ock was only relevant because of Arishem. Nobody was playing him before that.
>>488641304ota is only limited to not being able to change card vfx now apparently
>>488641556The fact that Arishem had 50 or something playrate does not mean the average 10 percent playrate decks did not exist before it. Clog and Mill both ran Doc Ock.
The new moonknight animation is NICE
>>488641556Mill masters were. I was.
>Lokifags seething>Milltards caught in the crossfireToday can't get any better
>>488641671>>488642507Fuck Clog and fuck Mill. Those decks are both worse to play against than Arishem at the height of its powers.
https://www.marvelsnap.com/seasonrecap/s26
>>488642742I mostly ran Doc Ock in my homebrews but that anon denying Clog and Mill's existence is just plain wrong.
>>488642980Fuck you Arishemfag
>>488638984This thread is frequently wrong. /snap/ was wrong about:Zabu being weak before releaseGhost being OP before releaseMs Marvel being weak before releaseJean Grey being OP before releaseSuper Giant being OP before releaseWar Machine being overpowered before release (fucking lmao)Sage being weak before release Phastos being overpowered before release And now Arishem being shit before release./snap/ is frequently wrong, nobody here can evaluate a card for shit
Kate Bishop = OPMarvel Boy = Very good in Zoo and decks that play one dropsWiggan = ShitSpeed(probably due for a buff pre release) = ShitEmperor Hulk = Shit
>>488644421>Emperor Hulk = ShitYour 11 power Doom bro? Your 11 power Leader bro?
>>488644919card is going to be op as fuck
>>488644919Just play doom? Just play leader? Valentina mapped out all the good 6 costs, and it was like 30% you get a good one, same shit with Emperor HulkIf he was 5 cost copying 6 costs, he'll be overpowered but he ain't
>>488644919>>488644980What about when he's an 11 power Destroyer or an 11 power Agatha.
>>488644091Oh also forgot Nico. People here thought she'd be weak and now she's one of the best 1 drops in the game.
>series 1 playing deadpool's diner>dude plays magneto and cleans me for 500k bubs>its a series 3 cardWhat just happened.
Kick this guy.
>>488645369It's very likely he's just a random new player that requested to join the first alliance with any people in it he saw
>>488638984It's your own fault. Even if he was a meme card he was going to be a very fun meme card.
>>488640195Probably because I never watched the show or read the comics but cyclops always seemed like a really boring hero, like wow, laser eyes, so crazy. Yet somehow he's like everyone's favorite hero.
>accept 'destroy 8 cards in a match' bounty>accept 'destroy 5 cards' bounty>loading screen, exactly the same bounty appears in its place>nice roll, sweet>accept it>endless loading screen>close game, relaunch>won't loadThat was on Steam. Logged in on my phone now, but there was a little rollback (dailies not claimed and only the first bounty accepted, the rest is gone and not even in the pool).
>>488645664cyclops fans are a vocal minority that have an eternal chip on their shoulder thanks to wolverine being 10x as popular and thus getting 10x the focus
>>488645245Skill issue
Copycat isn't op...because?
>>488646178Because Arishem, and now Loki
>>488646178>>488646178She's so good bros....
>>488639937Electro with Blink is still good.
>>488645664As someone who has read X-men since the mid-90's (and has gone back and read all the previous stuff)Cyclops IS the X-men. The X-men are at their worst when Cyclops is being shit on or turned into an dictator or made to be a loser. He's the heart and soul of the team and the one true leader (Fuck Professor X)
>Loki is still brokenThey just can't win with this card can they?
>>488644091I've personally told you this like 3 times already, but no one, literally no one said zabu is going to be weak, you fucking schizoand super giant was because they changed the fucking card, it was a one cost and also worked on the turn it was played
>>488646812Nah retard I was here back then. People said he would be Zoo support only because of Kazar being a 4 cost. I will never forget that shit and how wrong you people were.
>Bar Sinister left two matches in a row>Nightcrawler opening hand both times
>>488648384>8 power lane
>>488648483>clogs it for himself to prevent WW/goblin shenanigans while also retaining the ability to unclog it and add actual cards at any time he pleasesHonestly, good for anon. Crawler/Jeff on Sinister is great.Not Venom or Hulkbuster levels of great, but still.
2 more slots for Step Sisters, get your apps in and get pts for us. we half way!
>6 extra energy per game is bad>loki playing 40 energy worth of cards in one turn is fine tho
Why didn't you guys roll for Copycat???
>>488650292in-name-only
>>488648642personally I perfor nocturne or vision there but that's just me and only me I guess
>>488644919He's meh6 costs are too random, Valentina was workable because her 6 costs turned into 4 costs>Blob is good. 24+ power>Dr Doom is good 11/5/5 card>Alioth is meh, but good effect, same power>Death is good for reductions>Knull is good for ongoing effectThen what do you have?>Galactus for some cheese with 11 power>Heimdall for cheese>Zola for cheese>Leader is meh, win more card>Hulk lol>Magneto lol>Shehulk lol>Skaar lolEven then I should probably have shehulk/skaar/death in the same tierthe rest are dogshit
>>488652720Death would be a good effect for him to copy but Death isn't a 6 cost.
>>488652962Right yeha, forgot about that, just searched up some old tier list maker
>>488644091wasn't here when Zabu/Ghost releasedms marvel was never considered weak, she was 4/15 and everyone was screaming about powercreepjean was a memesupergiant was gutted before release so everyone hyped initial versionwar machine was a fake streamers/creators hypesage wasn't played before kitty thena popped up with ravonna, my guess is sage will fall off as soon as they nerf that packagephastos was always called a surfer card at besteveryone hyped arishem due to pure idea of random kino plays (and now everyone is sick of it "randomness")stop spreading lies man
>>488653551Nope, people here were saying Ms Marvel was just a slightly better Mr Fantastic and then she ended up being a must own card she was so stupid.People legit thought Jean Grey was going to turn into an oppressive control deck and then it never didAnd no, everyone here was saying War Machine would be busted because of the Infinaut interaction.Everyone said Sage would just be a slightly better Wolfsbane Everyone here thought Phastos would be broken, that wasn't that long ago you can go back in the archives and see people saying this.And everyone here was calling Arishem a meme card that would be trash but fun. And then Arishem ended up being what it was because ramp is broken.
>>488654207I smell delusional arishemnigger
>>488654207>And then Arishem ended up being what it was because ramp is broken.I remember vividly that majority of people forget the fact about the ramp and all they focused on was that he was "too random and inconsistent, a meme and fun card, le just like draft mode, le it won't have an affect on the meta XD", fucking kek
Well, I guess OCK'D AND VROCK'D is done for good. It's been a wild ride gents.
>>488655772He became a dedicated clog/mill molestor now, it's not bad
Unironically saw barely any Arishems todayNot sure if that's from the nerfs, cass, or people spamming allinace bountiesBut a lot less
What would be the ULTIMATE god roll for this guy? Probably just some Tribunal shit right?
>>488658994well to start any cards that already have 0 power, arnim zola etc
>>488659216He would still work well with cards that have high power if you use shadow king
>>488658994I could see him working in a Darkhawk deck
>>488659362There's shitloads of good ones, its just matching the 4 cost card to the top of your deck.
>>488658994Galactus because you could play Hobgoblin and Galactus on the same turn.
>>488658994Knull or Zola. They're a nasty combo if you can slam both down on turn 6.
>>488651252Anything works really that can be moved at least on its own. The bigger shit you put there, the bigger the risk of getting goblin'd before you can play your own card, but then again, de payoff is better too.
new arishem loki is even worse somehow
How are the other 2 guilds going?I don't know if this is about expected or not. The rewards dont seem worth going for.
>>488662605Pseudo counter to DH/Cass, 5/26~ is far more beatable than a 5/40
>>488593590>>488594118Junk bros, we are at the top now. Soak it in.
>>488601310>>488616651>>488616763I stopped playing LoR because the balancing was terrible and the design choices for decks were terrible after a certain point. Irelia/Azir decks, fucking Nami self playing shit. Shit, I'd argue Burst spells were a terrible idea from the get go.It had tons of potential, but the designers couldn't just stick to interactions and open-ended champion designs, they HAD to be played in just specific decks after a while. Forcing two champions on the same deck to complete a single archetype was also a dumb idea.
>>488624650>>488624834>>488624941Make it like Nico where each turn he changes between shutting down reveal effects and ongoing effects. That way he's still strong, but relies on you knowing the meta and timing to take full advantage of his ability.
>>488644091/snap/ was hyped for Arishem simply because it was clear that +1 energy per turn was insane. Hence why everybody told people here to save keus for him,
>Pump your deck with movement cards>Prof X on 4The new cancer boys, coming soon
>>488664461Too easy to fuck yourself.
Rate me as a human being based on this.
>>488665765Honest player honest human!
Unimpressive
>>488666225>Meta player
Copycat is really funMore importantly, should i get Thena or Mockingbird for my 6k tokens?
>>488667068I lean towards Mockingbird because I play Arishem
>>488667068copycat is the most toxic design since rulk release
>>488667198And it's still somewhat under the rader because of ArishemKEK
>>488667198the definition of kicking down sandcastles, except the kicking happens before the sandcastle is builtSD needs a new PR manager, at this point it's very hard to tell what's the creative vision for snap
>>488667198Copycat is far less toxic than even white widow, much less rhulk or thena
>>488664407There were a couple of retards trying to say Arishem would be bad because you got a few random cards but for the most part everyone knew +1 inherent energy would be broken.
>>488667683remember times when you had to guess whether your enemy gonna play t6 alioth or doomcopycat is midrange equivalent of thatwhenever you play midrange decks and you didn't draw some big card you have to guess: does the opp have copycat? did it steal your nut? and so on
>>488668083>you have to guess: does the opp have copycat?Not if you play with your sound on. Copycat lets you know when she's drawn.
>>488668197This is not intended and will be fixed
>>488668197That's a bug, I assume it's leftover stuff from the old copycat (They said it shows both players what she stole then changed it last minute(
>>488668083most of the time you don't even draw the silenced card, this is the same as hoping you topdeck your combo piece, your enemy just knows what you can't topdeck (and can sometimes use it against you), i feel that is way less toxic than free 10 power mockingbird
>>488668526sure 2-10 are so OPu cannot compare it to random 3-5 ironman or 3-15 doom or 3-20 knull etc.
Well...
i knew sd would be so stupid to nerf every single card but arishem, it's insane, no matter the card game, no matter the devs it's always other cards that get the rope, never the card that limited the fucking design space in the first place.
