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>Download
https://zenless.hoyoverse.com/

>Trailer
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C5WS9Ohb-fI

>Zhu Yuan Teaser - "NEPS_Finalll_Versionnn.avi"
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0AMqJU4SNhE [EN]
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hDoW0Fz3ZqY [JP]

>Zhu Yuan Character Demo - "Captain Overtime!"
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0JmdwCmuA0I [EN]
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0hRsW7TOaZ0 [JP]

>Zhu Yuan EP - "As the Sugar Cube Floats, Fleeting in Time"
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I-ekcFSdke8 [EN]
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wsp6_mservA [JP]

>Lore Teaser - "Where the Miracle Began"
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UgeN7naPPz4 [EN]
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CdcdfFs9t1s [JP]

>Official X account
https://x.com/ZZZ_EN
https://x.com/ZZZ_JP

>Redeemable codes (claimable in-game or online)
https://zenless.hoyoverse.com/redemption
ZENLESSGIFT
ZENLESSLAUNCH
CATCHABOO
KANURBT5MQ8D
ZZZHOYOLAB

>Signal/Pull Tracker
https://zzz.rng.moe

>Characters' Ascension mats
https://zzz.hakush.in

>Damage Calculator
https://docs.google.com/document/d/e/2PACX-1vSo82Ac3HqdI_G5_BoAqYJToK6LX4FGLPJxjPZEbhMQ-wSyFyxDFl1dr8i5czcCLJmYwxWfsXkCXN6v/pub

>ZZZ stickers
https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/1D8ZDQxwV41hJO8Aia5DHt08VRByUCsfM
https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/19DrrUmKQxp4xfxZGUdhMwayCmtnwQqNb

>/zzz/ Thread Template
https://rentry.org/zzz-vg
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Okaeri, Onii-chan!~
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Is Piper really that good with a lucy nekomata team, or is it just pedos trying to shill their slut?

The assault procs aren't bad, but she doesn't synergize that well with the other 2.
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This might be a bit premature but which disc sets do you think Seth is going to want? Is he someone who's going to need energy, impact or anomaly?
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EXCUSE ME! D-DID SOMEBODY... LOSE A SHINY PURPLE LEOPARD PRINT BAG... WITH A B-BALD MAN BOBBLEHEAD ON IT?
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Loving Corin Sex!
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Soldier 11 team (+ Koleda/ Lucy) just feels so much better to play than Zhu Yuan team
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i'll fucking take it for the first reset and having not even full level 50 teams, anton is so fucking based
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>dodges the last hit of your combo
>teleports to the other side of the map in your time attack
nothing personnel
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>>488493915
Mating with Jane for the sole purpose of producing more rodent thiren. Our albino daughter will grow up to become an elegant beauty with upstanding morals and good education while her siblings join various criminal organizations.
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>>488494101
>assault procs on demand doesn't synergize with Neko
??
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>>488494028
>>488494082
My heroes.
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What does a trucker need a body like THIS for
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>>488494108
can't imagine him wanting anything but swing jazz
impact 2pc might be nice on him though
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>combat atk%
>combat daze%
how do we know these are real and not just dogshit ecelebs made up? There's nothing about this in game. What makes it go up? What makes it go down?
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>>488494101
piper is good even without them, ut i would also like to have anal sex with her, so... your move dawg anby/sexcocku/pipeher here
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>>488494101
Anomaly characters like Piper work best with another Anomaly character of a different element. You could run Piper with Neko, but it's objectively worse than running Neko with a stunner.
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Be a sensible anon and NEVER recommend to roll for copies or weapons. They ARE cheat codes.
The value of them is determined by mihoyo (basically numbers) and fomo.
A character will always be better than those, not only in gameplay but in value.
Ex: Qingyi its a bigger boost than Zhu's Engine and Mindscape combined, she can be used on any other teams.
Any reason to roll for them is cope or being used to getting fucked in the ass
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You can give one (1) agent your creampie. Who do you pick?
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>>488493661
>18k dmg
>mmmmmmmmmmmmmmm, nyo
Go ahead, post your damage against level 60 enemies with no stage buffs.
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>>488494101
for regular content it's great, you just spin with piper and clean up with neko
for shiyu, i'd rather have a stunner or even a second support to maximize neko's field time and core skill buff
this also frees up piper for a disorder team instead
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FUCK THE BELABOG ROBOT AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH
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>>488494456
to compensate for her ugly face lol
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>>488494108
Does Seth act as a stun agent as well?
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Billy: Amber (weakest character in the game but people like to flex by clearing content with them anyway)
Corin: Noelle (strong 4 star with a dedicated following)
Lucy: Tingyun (very universal 4 star support that will last long in the meta)
Nicole: Pela (very universal 4 star support that will last long in the meta)
Anby: Natasha (stunners are like sustains in hsr, you only really need 2 of them and Anby will be completely useless once you have 2 better stunners)
If Jane is Kafka then Piper is Sampo. Cope for that don't get her.
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>>488494101
>literally the best phys anomaly builder for a unit that needs assault to do any damage
>faction bonus
>no synergy
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>>488494456
>thigh is unironically thicker than her entire abdomen
uohhhhh
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>>488494273
are we playing the same game as this guy? is it a hands issue to s rank with 50s or wallet issue? if its the latter i might as well uninstall.
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>>488494492
You can test it yourself in training mode.
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>>488494492
You can literally go test combat atk % in game.
Daze its pretty much irrelevant, all you have to do is get stun "numbers" high and forget about anything else, who cares about min-maxing that shit.
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We’re all motivated here yes we absolutely are
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anyone noticed if they already started hp bloating from the first sd reset?
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>>488494659
i wasnt even close to S rank until the last two days where I did disks, I dont have ellen or zhu
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>>488494593
>faction bonus
your main dps is neko
>>488494442
it doesn't because neko's procs are on assists and dodge procs. a stunner is almost always better for her.
if you're running piper as your main dps that'd be one thing, but in that case you'd switch out neko for someone else because neko has nothing to offer piper.
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>>488494108
Seth's main stat is attack. The shield that his score skill gives him (and that he can pass to other party members) is based off of his Attack stat. The shield value is capped at 3000 Attack, so after that focusing on Energy or Anomaly will be fine.
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>>488494584
They're all Bennett actually.
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>>488494584
Ellen is Seele and Zhu Yuan is Jing Yuan.

But who's Qingyi
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>>488494753
No?
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>>488494584
Okay but what Ben and Anton?
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>>488494862
Nobody in this game is Xingqui or Bennett. Mihoyo learned their lesson not to make 4 stars better than most 5.
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When will we go to China in this game?
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Tell me about the professor. Why does he wear a tiki torch as a hat?
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>>488494753
As far as I'm concerned, the second SD is easier than the first one.
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>>488494568
He has high daze multipliers on his defensive assist, further boosted by his M4
In fact, at M4 it's actually higher than any stunner's defensive assist
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more like, soldier 69
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>>488494584
kill yourself honkshitter
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>>488494753
"HP Bloat" is largely a function of the level differences in late SD.
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>>488494659
He only made it to SD 15, that's pretty normal for a f2p.
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>>488494809
its ok i didnt notice it was stable. grats bro. im seeing lots of zzziggers with critical s ranks and i think im doing something horribly wrong because my dps is not even close.
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>>488494901
Qingyi is my wife.
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>>488494901
She'll either end up as Silver Wolf or Luochud.
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>>488493915
>>488494354
My negro.
Rats deserve nothing but constant correctional dicking.
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>>488494813
Genuinely, piper is the main dps in this team. Neko is literally only there to chain and do damage in the daze window. That's it.
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>>488494976
He was beheaded
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fucking fat shark ass
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>>488494520
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>>488495060
yeah I thought shit was gay as hell and really far too but with disks I shaved minutes off mainly cause anton scaled so well with crit
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isnt this reset of red shiyu a breeze since well have lvl 60 agents soon?
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>>488495161
YES
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holy shit belle playable reveal!
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This game has no future, come back to Genshin
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>>488495236
Yeah, definitely. I did much better on this one cause I have decent, leveled discs.
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>>488495371
No can do cameraman
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>>488494972
new Eridu is just Beijing. We’ve been in china the entire time.
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>>488495371
undoubtedly it's because it's overrun with pedophiles.
it's impossible to talk about this game without the pedos spamming everything up.
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>>488495231
Would you recommend crit rate or crit damage disc 4?
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>>488495371
put Chiori rerun in the survey for me thanks
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>>488495486
Go by the 1:2 ratio when you factor in passives and buffs.
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>>488495371
i wont play openly chink shit even if it was made of gold. zzz was smart by slapping on a persona filter with bunch of english names thrown in like scott or billy.
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>>488495482
Are these “pedos” in the room with us right now?
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>>488494946
Let's be real. HSR and ZZZ have very strong A rank.
XQ and Bennet are only strong because mihoyo didn't want to powercreep them with a better character, thats it.
HSR had TY and pela is still used to this day. TY is still good but there are other characters that can steal her thunder like HH or any limited harmony.
ZZZ has Soukaku with her 1000 atk buff, lucy teamwide 600 atk buff. Piper is carrying many people.
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Bros be honest with me, is Zhu Yuan worth getting or is she just okay? I really don't want to waste my pulls on an "alright" character but since I've only rolled 1 S-rank in 180 pulls (2 graces) I feel like I need to start getting something from the limited banner or I'm going to be left behind soon.
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>>488495371
>>488495482
cameravellers...
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>Rina thinks lilies represent love
Really makes you think.
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What is Koleda's cope ball?
if it's steam who benefits from it more? Koleda or Lycaon. do either of them want fossil?
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>>488495698
Steam is the best
Just make 10 steams
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>>488495632
Soukaku is hard carried by Ellen. Nobody runs them on other teams because the long ass animations aren't worth it.
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>>488495371
You mean HSR*, Genshin has no future with THAT Natlan cast
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I'm bored of this trash game.
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>>488495482
unironically prefer pedobwos to sjwtroons
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Pandering to incels is why ZZZ is failing.
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>>488495698
Fossil is garbage. Nobody wants that shit. Six Shooter is mediocre. Steam is the best A wengine for any stunner. At equal stars and levels Anby's wengine will be a tiny bit better for Qingyu than the Steam Oven.
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>>488495560
That won't do, I either have 50/75 or 30/125. I'm thinking Anton needs to crit a lot but he kinda just does no damage.
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>>488495698
i dont think it matters at all except s rank engines have better stats by a small margin. just use anything.
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>>488495672
She and Ellen are about the same in performance right now. Zhu will get a boost with Qingyi though. Anby is a pretty shitty stunner.
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>>488495691
>I told Lycaon to get the lilies at the flower shop because I don’t care
>he gave me a bouquet of lilies
Say it ain’t so…
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>>488495846
Genshin is flopping harder thougheverbeit. Emilie didn’t even get a teaser, they’re that out of revenue KEK
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>>488495765
Its the other way around retard, Ellen gets hard carried by Lyacon and Soukaku.
You can put Lyacon + Soukaku with any character and it will perform well, for ice teams their future looks even brighter, with their ice dmg and ice res.
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I just like tummies and budding breasts myself
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>>488495956
>Emilie
>thought it was the nier smiliey face guy
Who the fuck is that? I haven't even seen thread raiders post them.
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Are the audio logs/story items in Hollow Zero tied to specific areas/difficulties or is it just random? I only found five of them and I already beat the Withering Garden Core
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>>488496009
We have the statistics for SD. Almost no one runs Soukaku without Ellen. She's trash.
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>>488495883
>built Anby's signature for Anby
>turns out she wants Oven
NTA but this is convenient for me so I'll believe you without any evidence lol.
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>>488495846
Really? Explain this then
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>>488495486
crit rate for sure
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>>488495934
They actually are associated with love and purity, at least according to most of the front page google results, but I know at the very least that Japan associates them with death and funerals and I assume it's the same in China. Apparently in Japan it's a form of bullying to leave a vase of lilies on someone's desk.
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EMP BOMB ACTIVATE
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>>488496090
Statistics don't mean shit when almost everyone got the first limited character.
Try running Ellen without them and see how you will perform, i know because i don't have M4 sou and Lyacon, she's strictly worse than Zhu.
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>>488496023
holy fucking heterosexual
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I hate incest
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>>488495103
Are there any videos of that playstyle working in Shiyu 17? I did clear the previous Shiyu 17 with Neko/Piper/Lucy but Piper was mainly just there to clear adds since she doesn't do anything without her EX
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>>488496090
Which is the opposite of Lucy and Nicole. They get used a bunch in other teams. Soukaku will fall like a brick once ice gets a better support. Because no other team wants her.
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WHICH 4PC FOR GRACE PLEASE HELP HELP HELP
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>>488496142
Lmfao Kaveh’s homomeru killed the game. Glad I quit long ago but not because of the gay shit but because it got really boring + Star Rail had taken all my focus
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>>488496023
Piper and Lucy SHOULD have been completely flat
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>>488495371
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>>488496246
freedom blues
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>>488496205
Sounds like your Ellen is just shit desu. I'm guessing you didn't get her signature. Ellen relies on it a lot unlike Zhu.
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>>488496219
>she doesn't do anything without her EX
The fuck? You runnin' a Piper without ER or something?
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>>488495756
>>488495883
>>488495907
alright thanks o/
also do stunners want anything in their disks besides impact 6? Im using Lycaon with a built Ellen so i just pop in lycaon after Ellen has charged up some resources and procced frost. stun with lycaon and then switch back. I have soukaku but she is level 20 so her buff is worth like 100 attack at most.
The 2nd team will have Koleda lucy piper. I only have piper leveled to 50. the other 2 i need to grind up. what drives are a priority for them?

>>488496304
fuck off flat bitches are boring.
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>>488496126
Qingyi's primary stat is Impact (since it increases her damage). Steam Oven doesn't have any Impact, just Energy Regen. Qingyi can also benefit from the extra electricity damage, plus Anby's engine also boosts Energy regen. Mathematically it comes out to being a tiny bit ahead of the Steam Oven. But not enough to make a serious difference, so for people who already built steam oven, they might as well stick with it for Qingyi. But since you built Demara you should use it.
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>>488496320
She looks so cute and desperate!
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>>488495691
>>488495934
>>488496175
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>>488496246
4 thunder metal + 2 freedom blues
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Don’t get cocky zzzkeks, you’ll soon see homo shit in your game too
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why can't we buy A-rank signature engines on the gacha shop like we can the s-rank ones and A-rank agents? i really want Ben's engine but don't wanna waste rolls on the weapon banner. I'd be nice to have a guarantee eventually instead of hoping for a standard banner spook
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>>488496304
I respect you brother.
But I'm gonna have to disagree with you. As a man. It's nothing personal.
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>>488496393
Stunners only want Impact on Disc 6. I think past that anything is fine, even Defense or HP aren't bad, since your stunner will spend more time on the field than anyone else so they're more likely to get hit unless you're god-tier at dodging.
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>>488496142
What the fuck
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>>488496235
Lucy and Nicole have more glaring problems than Soukaku tho. Their uptime is ass.
Lucy requires M2 and if you have Lucy/Rina why would you ever use nicole outside of Zhu teams.
Soukaku buffs last 22+ 8 from M1, not hard to get since she's free.
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>>488496391
I am. Do I really need her Mindscapes for this shit? Also video doko
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>>488495371
I play both, ZZZ just takes like 5 minutes of your time anyway.
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>>488496373
>>488496452
WHICH ONE IS IT YOU CUNTS
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>>488496475
Tits too perky
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>>488496074
Random, but you have a limit of 3 NPC interactions per day. That counts even if you don't get their item, and it'll count multiple times if a specific NPC requires multiple interactions to get their item. It gets pretty fucked.
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>>488496320
>reading this unironically gave me a boner
This place fucking ruined me.
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>>488496604
>Their uptime is ass.
You have no idea what you're talking about
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>>488496659
Corinbros we got another one!
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>>488495371
>coming back to a game with girls sharing the 3 same 3D models body type
NEVER EVER LMAO
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>>488496535
doesnt koleda want ER for a swap stunner build? like 90% of her stuns are either in the parry or the skill. I dont think she even wants the 4p stun set, myabe 2pc stun with 2pc ER and 2pc anomoly?
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The trick is to do some rolls then do some more a week later.
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>>488496623
why dont you math yourself you shitbag? just slap on bunch of anomaly shit its not that hard.
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>>488496604
>>488496669
He meant he was distracted by Lucy's ass >>488496659
He couldn't have meant Lucy's 100% uptime with no mindscape was ass.
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>>488496458
soon?
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>>488495371
It’s boring though, the Fontaine cast was so boring except Furina I guess
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>>488496450
I think the important thing to remember is that the discussion Rina and Corin are having is about the more commonly accepted "language of flowers".


>The lily is the flower most commonly associated with funeral services as they symbolize the innocence that has been restored to the soul of the departed. The white lily expresses majesty and purity, where as white stargazer lilies specifically symbolize sympathy.
https://www.marineflorists.com/sympathy/funeral-flowers-meaning
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Does Nicole get her def shred on the vortex/initial gunshot or only on the basic? Having to sneak in 1 basic is always awkward for me, but every video I watch seems to never do it.
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>>488496826
meanie... i just wanna be efficient
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>>488496376
>Ellen carries Soukaku!
>Ellen isn't bad, You just require the engine!
stupid ass retard, at that point is just better to roll for Qingyi and improve Ellen's damage more while also being able to use the character in whatever future team i want
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>>488496641
Oh okay. I was worried since there's four categories of Hollow Zero story items, and four areas, that I'd have to specifically run the Old Capital for the bank robbery shit, etc. If I can get everything by just doing Withering Garden runs that would make shit a lot easier.
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>>488496623
just bee you're selfve buddy
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ZZZ... LOST
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What's with the transbian op image?
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>>488496718
built for human male legendary proxies
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>>488496745
NTA but I think a maxed steam oven gives more than enough energy to EX after every parry, disc 6 ER would just be complete overkill.
I run 4 Daze 2 ER, 2pc anomaly doesn't do anything for her.
Also her enhanced basic off her charge has a very big daze multiplier and that gets amped by 4pc daze
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>>488496641
almost knot 50, did 7 runs of HZ per week and only just today did i max the second set of items. i still need the last two sets, the rng is fucked up.
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>>488496863
I think its any attack as long as she has ammo.
Go fight a boss and you can see the debuffs you apply under their health bar
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>>488494517
The only gacha i rolled for dupe or weapon is Hsr.
They release way too many characte,r So i just focus on a few and make them as strong as possible.
And star rail being what it is you dont have much chance to show skill expression so you cant really make something like use Nicole skill variation or Soldier 11 on beat attack evade or dodge only number matters.
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Corin LOVE
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I'm gonna need hoyo to up the crazy factor in combat environments.
Where's fights transitioning to fighting on top of a moving train, or up the side of a skyscraper as you run through Hollows?
Blowing through the floors of a building (upwards or downwards, who cares) as a boss changes phases with each knockdown?
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>>488497010
gig trying to take over
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Why is the rat looking like a villain?
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why do we say kot
where did it come from?
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>>488496142
According to this klee killed the game
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>>488497160
Because squeakers are evil
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>>488497160
She has a boss fight. We get to fight her.
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>>488496990
oh yeah i think you can spam any level and any difficulty if you just want to farm the 3 items per day; it also counts if you just get the item and quit early.
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>>488497160
She is no longer cheesed to meet you.
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After school sex with Ellen
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>>488497179
And they would be right
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>Ellen sucks
>Soukaku sucks
>Cop sucks
They're all pretty good to me, but whatever.
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>>488496784
>wasting 40 rolls on something that is not that better than a free starlight engine
Why?
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>>488494918
Ben is Beidou, Anton is Arlan
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>>488497246
Why did I chuckle...
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>>488497059
>So i just focus on a few and make them as strong as possible.
That's a bad choice tho. Vertical investment sucks for a game like HSR, where characters can quickly outperform old characters with lightcones and copies.
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>>488497217
>humanoid boss
Do you think hoyo can deliver? Their bosses are always larger than you. Fuck, imagine if she can parry YOU. That would be amazing.
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How would zzz do a human size boss like rrat? Can they actually allow enemies to parry and dodge you? How does other games do it?
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>>488497342
wtf what a dick
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>>488497342
needed a >TO BE CONTINUED... edit
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I hate thanatos
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>>488497040
you would want 2 of her EX to be ready after the boss recover from stun though
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Do your part by telling everyone this game sucks because it flopped and the community is a bunch of straightoid nazis.
We can't allow "that crowd" here.
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>>488497342
Based Neko
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>>488496604
Why the fuck do rinaless niggers say this shit? 4 seconds buff up time is NOT GOOD. SHE'S THE FUCKING WORST STANDARD CHARACTER
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>>488497414
Dev. stream this Saturday, the stream title is hinting it.
>imagine if she can parry YOU
I would love that.
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>>488497414
Make a fight like Childe.
She transform into a cool as power ranger with bigger moves.
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>>488497059
shouldn't be the opposite? Save for the new characters because they're stronger already.
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>>488497430
QTE sequence.
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>>488496623
this >>488496452 will get you the most damage with her, she doesn't need the 4 piece passive from freedom blues
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>>488496458
We have wolf furry and and we aren't freaking out (can you imagine the melty if it was genshin?)
We'll survive 3 ikemen twinks
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>>488497557
I have Rina, her buff is amazing just swap her in every 4 seconds bro it's not that deep.
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>>488497660
but ive seen people saying the 4pc thunder doesnt really work if you're doing a disorder comp with piper
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>>488497557
i didn't mention rina retard bro, she has a niche that no other supports can fulfill, so in that regard she's irreplicable for now.
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>Arknights giving 10 free pulls for hitting #1 in JP Revenue
That just reminded me that we hit #1 right after Zhu's banner dropped. When will we be getting our free pulls?
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>>488497430
It's going to be really shitty. There's no way around it. Think of it like those Elite thugs, but with more HP and slightly faster. The "good" of it will be in her attack animations with all her spinning.
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>>488497557
i also dont have rina but isnt her only use just pen tag the boss before your big hits? basically just nicole's def shred.
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>>488497759
then I guess it depends on who's your main dps
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>>488497851
Def shred is way better than pen
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>>488497557
Yeah I fell for the Rina meme too. That shit sucks to use.
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>>488497812
we're not even getting 10 standard pulls a month bro these chinks won't give us anything
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>>488497042
Just load in and see if there is a hidden bangboo tile on the first plane if not just exit. You keep doing that until you get your 3 items for the day. I got done with the whole thing in 5 days.

Just load into Old Metro Capital 3500 because it has the most amount of tiles so chance of banbgoo tile appearing increases.
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>>488497812
It's 10 pulls or jp only
Da Wei would be killed if a hoyo game did that
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>>488497926
its a more general use but i think rina's pen works best on a pure shock team right?
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>>488498058
Yeah, you kinda use her for faction buff since it's really good for shock teams
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>>488497430
I don't know but they better deliver cause I'm a huge sucker for these kinds of fights compared to giga nigga monster.
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>>488498041
thanks bro
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the fuck, thats not a kid
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>>488497812
Mihoyo can't just give out rolls willy nilly, their roll schedule is already set and calculated and tuned because of the guarantee and to squeeze F2Ps.
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>>488497557
Fucking retarded mongoloid do you stay on one character forever? You really only need to BA once and swap out with Rina and you really dont need to obsess over her bonus outside of stun phase anyway.
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>>488495632
HH is best when used WITH Ting. But I agree HSR and ZZZ won't have 4* that completely dominate the meta like genshin had.

>genshintards thought it was good 4 years in their game balance was still dictated by launch 4*
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>>488497414
>>488497430
forget parrying you, I want her to be able to inflict anomaly on you
imagine getting hit too many times and then your health bar just explodes from a fat assault proc
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>>488497235
I probably won't spam runs that much since I only have so many weekly exploration points, but it's good to know I don't have to bother with the other areas.
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>>488498345
kek isn't that like rot from soulslike games? That would be amazing yeah
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um corrinbwos why is our usage rate the second worst, only above b*lly?
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>>488497507
Unironically, a single parry into 2-basic EX special does like 80% of the stun bar of the Thanatos on Shiyu 17.
I haven't tested if double EX special without the impact disc would stun from 100 but I dunno, it doesn't seem necessary. I also like being able to insta-stun any mob under the sun with a single ex special
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guys tell me if it's worth buying lucy in the shop versus getting more rolls
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Explain assault procs to me like I don't read tutorials or skill descriptions.
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>>488498345
>shills defense characters by introducing enemies that buildup anomaly on your characters that can't go through shields
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So is this stream that’s happening on Saturday the kind where it has the little Chibis characters or is the kind where it’s just the regular devs talking?
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>>488497270
Revenue wise yeah. No one is rolling those janky ass 1.0 bricks
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thank you dawei
finally lucklets like me can get this cute hag
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Oh yeah how the hell do they expect you to find all the NPCs that guve you side quests when half of them aren't even marked with anything? I'm still missing a fuckload of hollow data
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>>488498798
Nah, get fucked retard
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>>488498768
if you don't have her or if it's bringing her to M2, sure
it's "only" 7 rolls worth of currency
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>buying A-Ranks
gonna regret it when you're 6 rolls away from soft pity on a new limited and you have to swipe.
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>>488498828
Have you never heard the concept of an Easter egg.
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Diaper mod when? Soukaku, Ellen, and Seth need to be unpottytrained asap~

What disks do I run on Soukaku support build btw?
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>>488498828
Most of the Hollow Zero shit is really obscured. I don't think anyone even knows how to complete the corruption log yet.
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>>488498801
The new game mode will shill defense as It's more about survival than time attack
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>>488498986
If I get that close I'm just gonna swipe
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is +phys damage better or +attack
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>>488498529
But... i thought Nicole and Lucy were more used than Soukaku? Yet she crushes them both by a landslide. Truly shocking.
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>>488498986
I already missed le 2 rolls by not full clearing SD, if I stressed about every single thing that could've been instead of getting new gameplay and fun now, I'd never get anywhere.
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which skills do i prioritize for ben bigger? he became m6 and I have his signature weapon
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fucking hoyo i swear they gave me a stable signal nicole on purpose so i can get her to C5 and make me feel the fomo to pull and fuck my pity up for the lolibot i fucking hate those chink jews fuck you i wont do it oh my fucking got 12 seconda crit buff oh God IM POOOOOLLING IM FUCKING POOOOOOLLING
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Seth is electric right?

I’m theory crafting a BP defense W engine build for the Anton chads, seems like an upgrade over Anby. Qingyi seems like a lower value banner if it’s true her A ranks are anby and billy. But does the energy regeneration buff even work on mindscapes?
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>>488499048
They can't do that in a meaningful way. Defense characters only extend our survivability with their shields and the shields are tied to Ults. There's no healing or quick shields. And if they put some way to gain these things in the mode itself you'll just be incentivized to run DPS-oriented comps anyway.
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>>488499089
Whichever you have less of, assuming your character's element is Physical.
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>>488499109
>But... i thought Nicole and Lucy were more used than Soukaku?
this data is only for shiyu 7 and ellenlets didn't even clear, of course soukaku is high when ellen is at 85% usage rate. that's not 85% of ellen owners btw, it's 85% of ALL PLAYERS who got even B
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>>488498986
More like you’re going to regret trying to unlock an A ranks C6 and pop your pity on some limited that is mid

Reminder C6 a rank is much harder to get than c0 s rank
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drip marketing doko?
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>>488498798
>do a lot of one type of DMG
>Do more damage
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grace only fucks bangboo.
sorry you had to hear it from me.
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>>488499260
I personally took the BP engine for him just because it's the only one with attack main stat besides his signature, and I don't intend to roll for that.
That being said, I think the energy generation stat is only for what you build from landing attacks. That's what the ingame description says at least.
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ANIMAL PARTS REMOVAL OPTION FUCKING WHERE
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>>488499392
>Reminder C6 a rank is much harder to get than c0 s rank
I had like 8 soukakus and 5 antons before I got ellen and same shit with this new banner
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>>488499513
sorry not sorry. animals are part of chinese culture. and you're playing a chinese game
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>>488499392
>Reminder C6 a rank is much harder to get than c0 s rank
Evidently false.
I have 4 C6 A-ranks and only 3 S-ranks.
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>need fire
>no fire
fuck
Am I going to have to build Ben Bigger the Bigger Nigger as well now?
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>>488499519
Consider yourself bricked. C6 A rank is about C1.5 S rank
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>>488499513
Hopefully nowhere.
I don't like my games catering to raging homosexuals.
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>>488499625
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>>488499593
>evidently false
>anecdotal evidence
retard
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>baby modern gamers need every quest explained to them and handed on a platter
Yeah this game really is the great normalfag filter
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>>488499707
>given evidence
>assblasted that his claim was destroyed with evidence
Ohnononono
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>>488499480
Yeah but that’s the thing the mindscape unlocks energy from when you land basic attacks with Anton. It depends if the game considers it flat energy from a mindscape or if the mindscape is directly adding something to the attack
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how important is getting a second team? should I focus on my first team until I max it?
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>>488499804
gibs?
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>>488498529
Sexkakubros… We won.
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>>488499881
a second team only matters in Shiyu defense at level 7 and onwards.
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>>488499881
>how important is getting a second team?
Literally locks you out of doing SD past SD...4?
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>>488498698
I also don’t think she really needs energy in slot 6 either I didn’t notice that much of a difference
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a little birdy told me dawei will announce everyone gets a free qingyi during the 1.1 stream.
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>>488496320
Hot
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>>488499804
why are they wearing home clothes
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And just like that... all the content is gone (again)
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>>488500106
You heard it wrong, actually everyone gets a free anby nude skin and sex event (repeatable)
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>>488500145
thanks for funding the game bwo
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>>488498529
Corin is for cuddling rape, not metafaggotry
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I get the Kot memes wee funnier but like… does anyone give a fuck about solider 11? Is that really the better character to get spooked by?
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which set does piper want, 4pc fanged metal or 4pc freedom blues?
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>>488496623
thunder you retard
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>>488500336
they're both getting thrown into the lucy+piper purgatory, and S11 is at least more interesting to play
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>>488498828
This is your brain on ubisoft
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>>488500336
S11 is currently the only fire character worth a shit as an actual on-fielder
Piper is a perfectly good physical deeps
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>>488500336
i use soldier because she's a white adult
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>>488500194
mad? I did it with anby nicole billy, ben soukaka corin. stay bad loser lol
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>>488497504
Are you a whale?
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>>488500365
4pc fanged metal 2pc freedom blues
or
20 pc McNuggets and a McFlurry for Outer Rim longhauls.
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I hope they add more characters like piper and lucy to filter out retards from the game. I don't even use piper and lucy
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how do you take off a unit from SD? i want to remove soukaku and just 2 man it
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>>488500487
Surely you can post proof right?
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>>488500557
depends, are you america and need the 2000 extra calories.
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>>488500194
Don't listen to the other retard. Yes I did whale (about $400). The main advantage was using 3 refreshes a day to hit level 60 on Ellen. Last reset I had to sweat a bit to get under 5 mins on 7 but this time I got 4 min 30 without even trying.
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my girlfriend
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what nthe fuck is wrong with this fucking cat why does she want to brick everyone's account
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>>488500668
assuming your other dps was zhu?
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>>488499513
I came here for the animal parts that weren't just cat/wolf/fox with the occasional dragon. SO THEY BETTER MAKE MORE SHARKOS!
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>>488500805
el rato will be cheesed to meet you
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>>488500708
holy moly... soldier 69 fanart exists?
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>>488498698
Koleda max impact at lvl60 is 134

say you build energy
2 EX (max energy) = (134 x 131.6%) x2 = 352.688 total impact

1 EX = 134 x 149.6% = 200.464 total impact

don't forget her core passive give a debuff that make the chain attack to deal 35% more dmg per debuff, stack up to 2, so you def need to slam the enemy twice with your EX

and also, the fact that sometimes if you use your EX at 60 energy the oven won't have the maximum effect, energy allow you to do a lot more desu, and the gameplay feel much better, AND you can deal a lot of extra dmg from 2 EX because her EX multiplier is pretty big (over 1k2 x 2)
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>>488500853
I came for Ellen and will be staying for Jane!
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>>488500597
Actually from the reaction on xitter dot com it seems to have worked. They're not even gonna force themselves to play the game because Genshin and Star Rail already exists. The only retards we'll get are the usual yurinigs and maybe the occasional autistic (not the smart kind of autistic) furry. Thank you Lucy and Piper.
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>he’s still using 4 piece pecker on Ellen
Who’s gonna tell him
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>>488500781
Ellen/Lycaon/Soukaku and Lucy/Piper/Zhu in that order. Zhu and Ellen are C2, Lycaon is C1, Lucy, Piper and Soukaku are C6.
Its unbelievable how much of a difference level 60 on your DPS and their W-Engine is, I didnt even have to try.
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>>488501007
Who is HE? Where is HE? Why don't you quote him so I can actually see?
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>>488500597
Xitters and redditors are already being filtered by Zhu' ass and Nicole's clothes, calling it a coomer(derogatory) and incel game, made for perverts.
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>>488442767
Hmm.
I did theorycraft their ele+role

Kronii to ice+atk
Nerissa to ether+support/stun
Calliope to ether+attack
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>>488500597
We need an actual Loli then
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>>488500597
Well don’t worry, we’re getting a faction of only lolibaba vtuber idol sluts at some point. As much as I don’t like idolslop, their designs are good and one of them is a robot that isn’t as human looking as qingyi
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>>488494156
corin...
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>>488494354
Speak for yourself, my children with her will be lawyers and bankers
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>>488501139
They'll come crawling back when Section 6's bland, safe designs drop back to back to back.
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>>488501082
The person reading that post
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least memorable playable character is......
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>>488501082
I'm 34 I smoke pressure I rock supreme... and yes I listen to nettspend
I'm HIM bro I'm HIMOTHY I AM THAT GUY
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>start using the grace cleavage mod
>the game just got 5 times better
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Who's the Turkish Dad of ZZZ?
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Just in time.
S11 jobbed at the end and Piper carried me through. I'm fairly certain her assault procs were doing more than S11's dps too but I that may be conjecture
>>488500934
Well obviously, 2 EX's are gonna do more daze than 1 EX.
The question is do you really max out the entire energy bar in a single stun duration with just the disc 6?
Is that really worth losing daze on her enhanced basic attacks and dodge counters and parries in the meantime? I dunno
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>>488501417
Rina
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>>488501417
Section 6 minus Soukaku
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>>488501254
I tire of the twt design police. The only thing it should be policing is if its objectively good.
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>>488501417
rina
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>>488501452
Billy is the korean girl with his robot augments.
Zhu Yuan is the Turk, her one hand placed on her asscheek instead of pocket.
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>>488500336
S11 is objectively one of the best standard S agent alongside Grace for the simple fact they open up various teams. In this case pure fire or the usual lucy/piper cope team.
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Also, I hope all of the cast gets Agent Stories.
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>>488501225
it will be funny seeing the revenue tank, at least
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>>488501417
soldier 42
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which is the worst out of genshin,star rail and zzz brehs?
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>>488494213
not really
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>>488494028
*chu*
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>>488501736
Never played either before zzz and never will.
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>>488499010
I don't mean Hollow Zero, I just mean hub NPCs that give you side quests/rewards. Found one NPC that lead to a payphone and now I have a commission that tells me it'll take two hours.
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>buy lucy in the shop
>level her up to 20 to get a standard roll
>roll neko
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>>488501707
This is why I believe that 2 of the idols will be A-rank one will be with the S-rank idol and the other with an unrelated "safe" character.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KVOfQF6p3sM
thoughts?
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grace love
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>>488501707
We're not talking about Harumasa, Yanagi, and Miyani's patch, anon.
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>>488501489
>>488501607
Hey
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Which one young man?
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>>488501923
>>>/hsrg/
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>>488500336
I mean honestly... They are roughly the same. S11 just opens up some more interesting teams. S11 really suffers from the fire team not being synergistic at all in terms of buffs/anomaly res. Koleda doesnt do anything for fire teams she doesnt do for anyone else.
Soukaku and Lycaon make ice better simply by existing, with ice only bonuses like 20% ice damage (alongside the massive attack amp) on soukaku and the random -35% resistance on Lycaon.
Meanwhile Lucy's team passive only effects her pigs, and Piper is really just increasing her own burst damage.
S11 is gonna be a trapped in an awkward spot until other OBOL squad members come out, or some better fire characters come out.
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>>488501961
miyabi will sell very well. if history is anything to go by, the girl with a katana lways does well
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what do these 2 games have in common outside of being somewhat combat focused?
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>>488502039
Fleshlight is the best.
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>>488501736
>>>/vg/gig
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>>488502141
mmo players love wuwa
busy people love zed zed zed
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Nicole is so fortunate....
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>>488502039
in theory the support one has the most ~potential~
but lips is the most immediately useful
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>>488502039
the lips for your anomaly dps
the rest are bad
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>>488501736
as someone that plays all 3, honestly Genshin, simply because it feels like the game does literally everything in it's power to keep you from actually enjoying the game.
>want to enjoy exploring? we'll just gate areas behind world quests
>want to enjoy the story? let's make every act a 3 hour slog of literally nothing but padded text
>want to enjoy the combat? let's have almost every enemy have some innane gimmick that you will either ignore entirely or be forced to engage with
>want to enjoy using a character? mmmmm how about we instead make 70% of the cast E/Q bots?
>want to have any interaction with the MC you chose? mmmm how about we make them a living emoji and have a flying midget do ALL the talking? sounds like a much better idea.
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>>488502141
Some faggot posing for thumbnail photos to make slop videos content for them
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>>488502261
My delicate looking big brother...
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>>488502141
Every new gacha is a potential replacement for Wuwa, so they have to compare themselves to other games constantly and undermine them, especially Hoyo games.
ZZZ especially is encroaching on the "skill/reaction based" part of gachas that Wuwa apparently offers.
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>>488502141
they're really desperate in trying to make ww a thing in the west when gooks are the only ones carrying the server fees
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I really want Jane but it's starting to look like she'll need another S-tier agent to make her viable from the leaks and she doesn't fit with any of the current A-tiers.

I also want to go all in on the loli team and I'm not sure how close or far away they are to save up....
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>>488501954
My Grace.
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>>488502320
theyre not bad... just currently not useful. watch one of them be the next best thing besides a signature weapon for an upcoming agent. the Defense and Support one are not that bad. now the attack balls are definitely trash
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>>488501736
HSR cause of the gameplay. But it still rolls majority of the chibi and live2d gacha.
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>>488502419
>wants agent
>says no because meta reasons
lmao
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>>488502419
I thought Jane would be okay ish with Piper/Lucy for assault stuff?
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>>488502141
chink shit gacha slop
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That 2 extra trash mobs at the end was a very dirty move.
Fuck
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Can I build a team with these two?
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>>488502141
They give the best reactions
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>>488502419
Her best support is Seth, who will be on her banner. He gives her all the stats she wants. Yes, he is better than Rina btw.
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>>488502439
Here’s mine Grace bwo
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Zhu Yuan rolls have been terrible, lost 50/50 to Rina around 30 pulls (would've been happy with Grace instead) and now I'm down to 35 pulls for the guarantee with 40 pulls left but I want lolicop.
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>>488502645
Piper/Lucy is looking more and more like the generalist "eh it fits" option for a lot of agents honestly.
I dont even think Piper/Lucy even wants any of our current roster, its missing Burnice as fire anomaly, Lucy is just such a general buff and Assault is so strong that you end up using it as second team and it works.

Really Jane wants Grace and Rina/Seth for huge assault and disorder procs.
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Qingyi, what do we tell dumbass metaspergs?
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>>488500365
Fang for alpha male DPS piper chads
Blues for pseudo stunner or disorder anomaly bot piper boys
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my current grip with this game is how badly the roster needs more variety and flexibility
even the upcoming patch characters aren't looking good.....
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>>488502419
have you tried stop pulling for meta?
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>>488502841
If you rolled for both Ellen and Zhu you need Chingpea for Zhu.
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>>488502796
Pokke doesn't even like wuwa lol
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Do i have any hope of clearing to sd 17? I'll use batteries if i need to. i was able to do the first section of sd14 but i only had a minute left for part 2 and ellen couldnt clutch it out. also is there a way to remove units? i think an ellen Lycaon would be better than having soukaku in
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>>488502841
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>>488502781
If you remove Nicole and add Qingyi it'll synergize very well. Electro buff + Pubsec Buff. And to top it off it's a standard time consisting of a stunner/support/DPS.
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>>488502645
Jane wants Seth and Piper. Retards are focusing on Disorder when her entire gimmick is pumping the SHIT out of Assault procs and having bonuses for continuously applying it for all team members. She turns Assaults into better Disorders.
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>>488495672
Bro, Ellen and ZY are 100% going to be powercrept. They're 1.0 characters, after all. If you want to metafaggotry, just have patience and wait for a broken future-proof character.
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>>488500514
Depends on what you consider a whale. I have bought out all the top up bonuses so yeah probably
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>>488502141
You spergs in this thread are the only ones still talking about wuwa, game kinda fizzled out everywhere else
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>>488502802
Seth not having energy regen on ult (as leaked anyway) is always going to make him second fiddle to a Rina option. Rina doesnt buff anomaly prof but she does the equivalent with 3s shock time (which affects disorder potential damage) and the pen buff is mostly unexplored especially with it being literally broken and not working for so long.
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>>488502919
It's the first patch nigga, give it time.
Imagine in HSR when people had to use Yanqing and Welt and pretend they were good.
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>>488502141
Gacha youtuber making gacha drama about the 2 newest gacha games for views? I honestly don't mind competition but obviously undesirable people always come from this
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Who do I level next?
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>>488495846
>Pandering to incels is why ZZZ is failing.
Based and factual. Turns out pandering to self loathing, financially destitute indopags was a horrible business model. Who'd have thought.
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>>488502141
Wuwa its trying to compete against Hoyo, and hoyo is trying to compete... against themselves by making more games that can be liked by different people.
People that liked Hoyo games will try genshin, hsr, zzz AND wuwa, wuwa game is developed around being a copy of genshin.
ZZZ shares many of genshin's systems except the open world, so in a way, it also competing against genshin for people that just want combat but no open world.
In short: the audience that hoyo is trying to reach has a limited amount of games they can play, its not like a multiplayer game that you can take a break from and play it later, if you commit to gacha games, its mentality draining to playing multiple ones.
Wuwa, not only fails to being unique, a great part of why people like these games, story and world building, is absolutely dogshit on wuwa. T
hey can have "better" things than genshin, but genshin from mediocre to above average at everything, while wuwa is good at one or two things and dogshit at everything else. Tried to keep playing it but just couldn't, doesn't help that im about to drop genshin too.
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>>488503006
>Ellen Lycaon clears in 2 min
>second shitter team can waste 8 minutes being bad
yes you have a chance if you aren't a retard
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Are you guys playing sword of convallaria?
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>>488502439
Good fucking lord show me your relics. I have only 301 AP. Are you using rainforest gourmet?
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>>488503006
Switch to "quick configure" in the top left when making a team and you can add and remove with no issue.
Also no if you're trying to clear before it resets I dont think you'll be able to get B unless youve been investing more in skill levels and core passives and disc sets more than levels
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ONE DAY
AND ANOTHER DAY
HIT THAT ASS
AND THE GROUND SHAKES
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>>488503163
yanKING still the best seethe
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>>488503365
>fantasy sloppy
No offence but I like zzz because it actually has a unique style.
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>>488502821
Brutal mogging of the other anon's grace tbf
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>>488503224
Your 2nd damage dealer. After that, Soukaku for more attack for Ellen.
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Ellen love!
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>>488503006
Yes, ellen lycaon is the best team in the game but it does depend on your discs
If you have correct mainstats for your teams you should easily be able to
Also don't give up. I thought that 16 was actually impossible when I first did it myself but look at me now
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am I correct in understanding that because disorder is just frontloading the dot damage, there's no real benefit of popping it outside of stun window? I've been seeing sd clears and seems like they rarely swap out grace to pop disorder unless it's to build daze or when boss is stunned.
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>>488503440
CLAP IT
SNIFF IT
SLAP IT
PLAP IT
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>>488503120
This pretty much. Nobody gives a shit about WuWa anymore.
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>>488503287
>>488503373
Yeah my 2nd team is the problem. on 14 they spent forever trying to break the elcectic shield on the 2nd to last boss. i switched to my level 30 enby and it did seem a lot faster but she got oneshot. now im debating getting her to 40.. either way the 2nd team is lacking hard.
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>>488498197
the lolis in this game are really built different. i hope we get a playable one. i like the hebes we have, but its not the same...
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>>488503553
why wouldn't you go for more damage NOW during a DAMAGE BUFF to do a time attack stage
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>Have Ellen, Zhu, Lycaon, and Grace
It's fucking over for me, I spread my investment too thin...
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>>488503553
You are correct. Save your disorder procs for the stun window.
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>>488493915
Could I get 30 rolls in 12 days? I wanna make sure I have a spark before rolling.
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>>488503365
Looks like absolute shit. If you want to play the game they are clearly ripping off just go play Triangle Strategy which isnt a gacha.
>reviews are "bro just wait until PVP"
lmao
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>>488503447
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wait do shield just break no matter what element stuns? so i should level my level 10 koleda instead of my level 30 anby to 40-50 for my 2nd team?
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I went all in on butt cop since I really wanted her, and I got her pretty quickly. Should I roll for her c1 or just save? Took almost all my rolls as a free player.
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>>488503553
yes
It's the same for every anomaly actually, they will ALL do more damage if you trigger then during the stun window, no matter what. If the stun is coming up soon you should do your best to hold the trigger
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which bangboo for a disorder team? Grace and Piper mostly
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>>488500514
?. You dont need to be a whale to clear it. I did the whole thing completely f2p. No BP no pass. pic is from yesterday. Only Zhu as my limited 5*.
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what the fuck
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>>488503919
kill yourself how about that
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>>488501417
rina
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>>488500374
prydwen is jerking your leg bwo
the damage bonus vs shocked does nothing for grace's shock damage unless you waste time shocking twice in a row

anomaly damage snapshots on every hit you do towards filling the gauge and then averages them out, so buffs you only get AFTER the gauge fills do nothing.
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>70+ pity on every Bangboo
Da Wei really wants me to play on hard mode
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>>488503989
did you rush your discs?
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>>488503965
grace+piper just have no bangboo sinergy right now, the only reason they are paired together is because they are the only anomaly characters, maybe the safety bangboo can work if your third member is another belebog character, or the poverty bangboo (luckyboo) can do some work too
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>>488499659
>I don't like my games catering to raging homosexuals.
thank god, it definately means mihoyo will never have any more male furry characters beyond the starters who will get out powered in use
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>>488503989
>lucksack broken discs
>yeah its so easy lmao guys you suck
kys humblebragger
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>>488503965
Bangvolver honestly because in my experience grave builds anomaly a lot easier because she has an easier time staying on field vs piper who locks herself into long animations which is hard to survive in late SDs.
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skipbros.... this is the farthest i can go with koleda as my only S.... cowwin couldn't carry me...

but it's all worth it for the qingyi and jane in my future
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>>488503648
Same but I only have Ellen and Brickomata
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>>488503819
Yes, stun is universal BUT anomaly buildup isn't.
If your enemy is a robot, is better to bring anby for interrupting their attacks
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please tell me new critical node has less ice shilling
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>>488504034
whats wrong?
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Wake up bitch
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>>488503132
Jane double dips into Seth's buffs because the Anomaly Proficeny he gives her also converts to crit rate for her Assault and a 200 flat attack buff
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>>488504204
Nope, didnt farm any discs until IK42. Started getting discs for everyone once all 6 of my characters that I use for SD were at lvl 50.

>>488504286
>Broken discs
I was running 4* discs on everyone except Zhu. Most of them didnt even have good substats. I could clear everything upto 16 with just that. for Sd17 I needed to get 4pc swing jazz (not even correct mainstats) for Rina and Nicole to be able to clear.
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> piper [-] locks herself into long animations which is hard to survive in late SDs.
Skill problem
https://files.catbox.moe/8xw6hk.webm
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>>488503989
>Only Zhu as my limited 5
There's a bit of luck involved with the standard agents too. I only have Zhu and an M1 Koleda and I can't get S past S14. It's not a skill issue either because I can absolutely fuck one side in 1:45-2:30 but spend 4 minutes doing nearly fucking nothing on the other.
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>>488503470
And by unique style you mean “we have persona 5 at home”
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Rate my f2p rooster /zzz/, started playing a week ago and lucked out on 50/50. Should I level up piggy girl for my fire team?
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i havent even cleared the current frontier because i ran out of shit to level up discs and i am missing discs on half my teammates and even then the discs i just autoequipped
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Kinda random that of the standard banner agent stories, Koleda is the only one that doesn’t get an animated cutscene in her story.
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>>488504575
Ok you're just lying then cool falseflag whalebro
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people though the ice/ether enemies would block them but the real boss was the asshole robot demanding hyper shock teams...
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>>488504639
What the fuck it's real life skin mods...
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>>488504608
Yeah, pretty much.
That's how fucking dire the gacha landscape was.
Even something like penacony was pretty unique despite how much they fumbled it.
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>>488504575
Very believable!
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>>488504370
for sd im using lucy and piper together trey are around level 45, i was using neko but she a btick and takes too many resources to make decent.. i already wasted getting her to 50.. anyway should i level koleda to 40 or anby? for SD 2nd team. Anby is already 30 so not much more to level her and she is easy and straight forward to play. Koleda i don't really understand her. but she seems to boost stun dmg by almost 70%??
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>>488504709
Keep seething skilllet lmao
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>>488504638
pretty fucking good
>Should I level up piggy girl for my fire team?
yeah it's probably your best option
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>>488504768
You mean the gaming industry...
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>>488504370
If you’re under leveled though it’s actually annoying as fuck to interrupt robot attacks since you are getting less assist parries
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I skipped Ellen. I rolled Zhu. I luckshitted Grace. SD17...was possible.
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What to farm at IK42? Do I max dps and stun then farm discs or what
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is it me or the %energy stat is a scam, there's barely any difference
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>>488504608
Funnily enough the Persona 5 gacha flopped in China
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>>488504347
I think this is exactly as far as I got also skipping. I’m thinking about skipping qingyi and just going for Jane
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>>488504540
Seth really is tailor-made 100% for Jane and any other Anomaly scaling agents.
He might just be able to do Grace's job at M6.
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>>488504903
Don't farm discs until level 45 since that unlocks guaranteed 2 gold discs.
Just get max out your current teams and work on your 2nd team if you haven't started on it yet.
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>>488503224
uniroically you prefarm for legendary proxy, it will take a lot of resources to 60 your DPSs + skills + wengine, get ready now
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>>488504792
For stunner you NEED to level up their skills, almost everything except ult.
Koleda its a lot better than anby even without faction bonus,
she has a lot of daze on dodge counter and parry and her enhanced basic has invulnerability.
However if you don't want to lose much time you can switch mid animation, you can do this with any character that have long animations.
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>>488504537
i have to wake up this stupid dog everyday
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Do the element suggestions in Shiyu Defense need to be followed like it deals double damage or can anything be out DPS'd with strong built agents regardless of the element?
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>>488504797
Post roster
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I don't understand HOW the FUCk the chain attack mechanic work
why is it that sometimes, when I stun, I can do the following rotation :
>stunner trigger the stun
>chain attack with support
>chain attack with stunner again
>chain with dps

and sometimes, without ANY visible reason the chain attack look like this :
>stunner triggers the stun
>chain attack with support
>chain attack with stunner again
>CANT CHAIN ATTACK ONE LAST TIME, instead get the nigger quick assist prompt
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Livestream when?
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>>488504861
Big enemies usually have enough time to give one attack or you can let it move a little.
The one only enemy you don't want to let move at all is the one that gives himself a shield, that shit is annoying.
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>>488504919
It's only your natural energy gain, it does nothing for your energy from attacking (which is a separate stat).
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im going all in on the jane doe banner
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>>488505158
for now they can be brute forced if you have ice or ether team due to the frontier effect
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>>488505198
retardbwo...
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>>488505198
Small enemies = 1 chain
Elite enemies = 2 chain
Boss enemies = 3 chain
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>>488505048
Just farm disks. You have 30 days for Shiyu and prefarming is a huge stamina efficiency loss
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>>488505272
Idk.. She seems kinda sus... You wouldn't roll for a woman who decieves and hurts your friends, right?
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>5 monthly standard rolls
>C6 Ben
For fuck's sake.
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>>488505158
Generally a resistance is +20% RES and a weakness is -20% RES, but shiyu also has the shill buffs that boost ice/ether damage further.
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>>488505160
Got Rina at 50 from guarantee. Failed Zhu coinflip to grace.
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>>488505012
Don’t listen to this nigga he’s trying to brick you. Farm immediately once you get gold discs.
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>>488505198
Bosses can be chained 3 times
Elites can be chained only 2 times
Yes it's arbitrary if an enemy is a boss or an elite
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>>488501417
>least memorable playable character is......
billy
anton
ben
lycaon
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>>488505272
im going all in on 1.1 banner.
hope i win 2 50/50
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>>488505158
The bigger problem is the passive migoyo buffs on the side
Those are the actual endall be all
If a character doesnt benefit from any of the buffs they are almost certainly unviable
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>>488505158
Agents do +20% damage and anomaly against enemies weak to their element. They do -20% if the enemy is resistant. Using the preferred element is 1.5x better than trying to bruteforce it with the resisted one.
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At what point can I use battery refreshes without it being a waste?
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>>488505334
if your disks are still dogshit sure
but it's idiotic to piss all your stamina down the drain for lottery tier disc upgrades, when you could prefarm guaranteed, no-rng massive damage increase instead
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how many days until SD reset
i think only got to SD13
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>>488505378
This is the true brickster! I can smell Neko from him.
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>>488505438
any point as long as you're not using it to farm basic shit
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>>488505378
Nah, the moment to farm disks its at 35-40.
if you are at 40 its more efficient to level your DPS/stunner first.
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>>488505368
Seems legit I guess
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Who has more value if you have Koleda, Anby as stunner and m3 piper, RAT or QINGYI
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>>488505470
Either a few hours or a little under 14 days depending where you are.
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Piper with mastery slot 6 or Piper with %energy slot 6 my ziggers
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>>488505198
You get 3 inputs on bosses.
You get 2 inputs on Elites.
Except when you don't. Sometimes Elites count as bosses for no reason. Sometimes if you manage to stun two elites at the same time you get 3 inputs anyway.
No there is no indication of how many you'll get. No I don't know why they didn't add one. Probably because the same guy that made the UI decision to have the buff bar and anomaly gauge tiny little circles that you can barely see was in charge of it.
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>>488505542
Qing
Also pull for sex you gaylord
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Cheese!
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bitch what
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>>488505526
My first SD17 clear if that wasn't proof enough.
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WHERE'S THE REVENUE I CAN'T HOLD MUCH LONGER
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>>488503989
>>488505368
I don't believe you. An A on SD16 is not possible with that roster. Post a video showing the clear and your stats otherwise you're a lying bitch.
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>>488505685
why are girls like this
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>>488505587
energy, anomalies have cooldowns and her ex spin triggers assault so fast you have to wait for the finisher to land to proc it twice on the same enemy anyways
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I have high hopes for my monthly reset rolls but also not really
I do have 800 chrome saved to make it an even 10-roll though
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so it's my first mihomo game, what did people do with their batteries? save them or use them?
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>>488505542
Both have value.
Roll for who you like.
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cryboo is unironically better than the shitty rocketboo wtf
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>>488505431
>>488505423
>>488505363
>>488505278
Thank you. I wanted to focus on two teams that'll handle Shiyu defense but it seems I need to be more flexible or I just need to stick to my guns, focus on the two teams I planned on raising and just hope that I out DPS the enemies. I'm leaning on the latter to be honest.
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>>488505587
Energy% if you're having energy issues (likely without high core passive and the mindscape that gives back some energy) and aren't using Lucy's burst to funnel its energy to her.
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>>488505359
Congratulations! You have a new Stun character!
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Who is better for piper + lucy
>Koleda
>Nekomata
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>>488505587
I run energy because ive never pulled a mastery disc
but I was able to clear 17 with her as my dps which was pretty great
I think the inbuilt 3 second cooldown on assaults means that overmaxing mastery is a trap anyways
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>>488505735
If he managed to luckshit Grace's sig it's very believable
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>Did a 10er on Zhus banner for shits and giggles
>Got C1 Zhu, C3 Lucy, and C3 Piper
I'm rollin in it bros, think I'll buy that Piper from the shop to get her to C4 now
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>>488505587
Energy especially if you have her sig.
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>>488505735
Holy shit anon. It absolutely is possible. Its hard but its possible. I had to try for 2 hours straight to take SD16 from a B to an A. I dont know what more I can say or show to make you believe this.
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I thought you guys were joking about Zhu Yuan watching porn. But she INSISTS on finishing all the porno tapes after It's revealed. How horny is this bitch?
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>>488505785
Never used polychromes for standard/weapon banners or character copies bro...
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>>488505685
I can't help but think that must be socially unacceptable. Saying the F word right to their face.
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>>488505685
we humanbois just can't compete
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>>488505735
SD16 is Electric and Ether shill. It's not hard to see how he could do it.
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i WILL pull for QING and RAT and if i don't get them I WILL SWIPE, GOD BE MY WITNESS
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>>488505930
You get both 5 limited and 5 standard rolls, anon
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>>488505964
furries may not be as bad as word in ZZZ world than in irl tho.
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>just finished the mission your forced sibling gives you to unlock character dates
fucking finally, time to ignore the red exclimation mark and clear out all the side missions and max my agents cum meters
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>>488505930
>having a roster of underfunded gimped characters instead of having impulse control and skipping
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why can't we date npcs
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>>488506039
There's a couple in the HZ shop too, right?
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>>488506075
that's actually a child
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>>488505368
>>488503989
>lmao you dont need to be a whale
>you just need to luckshit 2 standard 5 stars for a perfect meta electric team bro
>lmao it's like so easy!
kys humblebragger
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>>488505903
NTA but I would like to see your stats/w-engines
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>>488503989
>>488504575
>>488504797
>>488505903
Yeah. Ok. But that literally, and I mean LITERALLY, doesn't count.
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>At first everybody hated Qing and la Ratta and thought they were 4 stars
>Now everybody wants them
You faggots will change your mind on Yanagi and Miyabi too, just watch
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>>488506060
>having fully invested characters only for a character to be a bigger boost on damage
couldn't be me
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>>488506075
She is more fun and cute and rapeable than half the playable cast
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>>488506124
She’s legal in a few countries around the world. What’s the age of consent in New Eridu?
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>>488505309
>>488505327
>>488505381
>>488505594
None of you understand what he's saying. He's taking about that thing when you chain attack, complete the chain, and then after you're done you still have the daze bar (blinking stun bar) ready for another chain attack BUT this time it doesn't let you chain the full way and just lets you do 1 more (the stun doesn't expire btw, he's still stunned, but it just doesn't let you do more chain attacks anymore)
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>>488494976
Magic Bullet looking ass.
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>>488506153
i hate that fish smelling ellen cunt and i skipped her
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>>488506153
I take things that didn't happen for $100
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>>488506153
No one hated Qingyi since she is sex revisionist bwo
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>>488506153
The fuck are you talking about? Qingyi has always been sex and Rat was and still is a mega skip.
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>>488506146
it unironically doesn't count. he has the only two functional electric units in the game and is acting like f2ps can just do that
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>>488506160
Enjoy getting walked at Shiyu bwo
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im starting to realize rina is the most valuable character you can get from the standard channel right now
>makes anton work
>makes grace work
>makes corin work
>will work with qingyi
>will work with rrat
>works with fucking zhu AND ellen (if for some reason you are not using soukaku or nicole)
invest on electromaid NOW
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>>488505791
Use them whenever you want, some might say to hold onto them so that you can use them more efficiently at later levels. Some would say use them now so you high later levels faster.
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>>488506245
That is not at all what he's saying.
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>>488506153
I will claim beforehand that if Yanagi seems cool I might roll cause I'm a hagman at the end of the day. Miyabi is a skip though because I like Ellen more and have no need for another ice attacker this soon, even if she is better.
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>>488506420
I am investing in Anomaly(Hyperloom/DoT)
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>>488501139
Let them get filtered.
They got genshin and star rail for their safe design
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>>488506153
I will only consider Yanagi and Miyabi if they’re completely redesigned so probably not happening
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>>488506384
you are retarded if you think character need engines and dupes to complete SD bro...
as soon as people reach 50 its going to be a walk in the park.
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>>488506454
>all of her attacks are blue fire
>retards still think that she's ice
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It's impossible to do SD comfortably if;
-you didn't whale
-you aren't IK50+
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God i love Nicole
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>>488506554
>implying they won’t scale the difficulty to keep people whaling
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Hey man I'm just parroting what everyone said at the start. I'll just be pleasantly surprised if she isn't.
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>>488506550
I still can't believe how much worse they look than the games NPC. Fucking mindboggling. There's any number of them i'd use as a body-swap mod.
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>>488506696
first hoyo game?
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>>488506420
Grace works without rina
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>>488506420
I use her with grace piper and I still genuinely do not know what she contributes to my team.
If anything I feel like she cucks my grace anomaly damage by contributing her anomaly calcs into it.
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Night bros
Hope for dreams of blue mesugaki vacuum blowjobs for all
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ZZZ, slightly protruding to the left
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HELP
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Noooooooo, I got bricked!

They really want to sell Zhu
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>>488506808
thread will be sensor pvp when you get back. It's been good bro.. Djana...
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>>488506615
She was ice on beta bro.
thats more evidence than your head canon.
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>>488506812
mods, you know what to do
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what's the friend/multiplayer/shit system for? you can't get any benefit from it
at least in hsr you get money
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>>488505381
>Yes it's arbitrary if an enemy is a boss or an elite
It's arbitrary but a boss will always have a health bar with their portrait in the corner of the screen.
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How come my solo grace run is faster than full party grace anton anbee?
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>>488506845
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hcVLcVnaI3I

no sir you just suck
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>>488506837
Read nigga read
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>>488506962
because you are completely clueless.
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>>488506985
>5 star sig weapon

Oh, I see.
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>>488506882
Unfinished content, they’ll probably let you borrow agents/bangboos from your friends later
Oh and queuing for arcadeslop that everyone idles in anyway
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>>488506134
>Goalpost shifting
Another anon did it with Grace/Lucy/Piper and Zhu/Anby/Nicole. Grace wasn't even working properly until today's patch.

>>488506136
Here you go.
>Zhu
Starlight Engine W1 - 4pc Ether + 2pc Woodpecker
>Grace
4pc Anomaly + 2pc electric - Roaring Ride W1 (Piper's Sig)
>Piper
4pc Anomaly + 2pc Physical - Roaring Ride W1
>Rina
4pc Swing Jazz + 2pc Anomaly - Reverb Mark II (3* Engine) at W5
>Nicole
4pc Swing Jazz only - W5 Nicole's Sig
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>>488506153
>Miyabischizo is back
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So the red shiyu has reset now right? Is it any harder/different or just the same stages?
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why she banging the boos bros....
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>>488507139
Rina wasn't working i mean.
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>>488507241
Observaboo likes to watch as she gets gangbanged by the 3 other bangboos
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For the "Clear Hollow Zero with a total of 12 $ELEMENT Agents" unlocks, do I need the agent to be with me at the last boss, or does it count as long as they pick up the phone or are in the roster?
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>>488506153
I remember people calling Qingyi a 4-star lmfao
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>>488507241
mei was always a freaky
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I love Billy so much it's unreal
I want to level him a lot, can he work with Lucy and Piper? I have them leveled up currently and don't know if I'd want to commit to an entire cunning hares team.
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>>488507245
qrd?
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>>488507207
Its easier this time around since the buffs are better. You dont have to kill adds to damage the boss.
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just wasted 3 hours trying to b rank s17 with ellen/anby/soukaku and s11/piper/lucy
wish I wasnt a latelet so I could get lvl 60 characters in time
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>>488505920
Nope, she's a nymphomaniac through and through.
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>>488505978
You just know it
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Zhu Yuan is pure though
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>>488507407
Her passive was broken which matters a lot for the Pen Ratio share. Lucy was objectively a better third slot than her while the issue was live.
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>>488507438
thank FUCK
the adds were the most fucking annoying shitters
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desuwa~
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Why the FUCK do they all have red eyes?
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>>488507491
the only people with level 60 characters right now are using polychromes to refresh energy
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>>488507139
Yes every f2p has Grace you're so right anon why didnt I think of using my Grace ah Im such a dumbass!
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>>488507491
I don't think even day 1 players can get IK50 yet without using Poly to refresh.
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>>488507587
Source me
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>>488507609
the chinese are based and know that red eyes ARE the best color
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>>488507571
Seemingly. But once you get her in a room alone...
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>>488507578
>there is a chance Rina is unable to recall the puppets
and thus the Pen Ratio stays because the passive says it stays as long as they are out. Wasn't this a nerf then? I mean it's now working as intended but she wpuld've been stronger if there was a chance her pen buff lasted longer than 4 seconds.
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>>488507491
I've used all my batteries and I'm only IK48. I'll be 50 in a little over a week.
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is there a way to make the cop not jump backwards when she shoots? she is clunky because of this
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>>488507398
Quingyi Billy Corin can work if you are insane enough
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>>488507609
Why is Miyabi so ugly?????
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>>488507816
dash attack to gap close to prevent ranged falloff damage and enter her 3 shell combo
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>first abyss has tankier enemies to trick you into whaling
>second abyss is easier so the poorfags think they might have a chance after all
damn, they really perfected the jew psychological techniques
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>>488506197
New Eridu is based on Beijing and in Beijing, the age of consent is 14
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>>488504591
>parrying every 2 seconds
>can't get a spin off ever
seems like anon's post was accurate
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>>488507816
Don't hold back or any directional keys while you're attacking unless you intend to do a moving shot.
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>>488507571
virgins put sex on a pedestal and many masturbate overly much to compensate. Zhu would definitely be obsessed with the sex she never got
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>>488507732
https://x.com/kira_boshi27
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When does a monthly PVP start i.e. Sensortower info released?
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>>488507630
Here you go anon SD17 F2P clears. Soldier 11 and Koleda as the only limited units. No Zhu no Ellen.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1--oZmZ59IE

If thats not enough Ellen team with Piper/Lucy on the other side.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xq1cVEsQaUE

You cant pull the roster argument because I know multiple anons here that cleared it f2p with varying teams. I can peruse the archives and get the posts if you dont believe me.

I didnt claim it was easy to clear it, I said it was doable. It took me 2 hours to A rank 16, it took me 4 to get my first 17 clear. 14 and 15 S rank took another 2-3 hours.
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>>488504639
cute boy.
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>>488506837
Look for the tape that has the description 'based on images from the old world'
If you don't have that tape then gg
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>>488507935
>age of consent in China is 14
>youngest playable character in the game is 17

Uhhh hoyocucks?
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>>488507804
If you don't have her, you can't comment on the bug
The reality was it would sometimes prevent the passive from activating for whatever reason
There are multiple times where I would swap to her in my rotation and once I swapped back, the buff wasn't active. Post-fix it's applying the buff more consistently, I can tell via the icon below the chatacter's health
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Did you play the ZZZ beta?
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Why the fuck does the coffee shop have defence cert coffee but no anomaly or stun coffee
There's only one fucking defence character
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Is this a good disc? I'm thinking all it needs is CR and it's set
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>>488508238
it changes every day
I think Sunday is the day where every single one is avaliable
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>>488508238
it has all, depends on day of the week.
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>>488508238
The coffee shop changes their menu daily bro…
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i shit you not
she turned herself into a tomato
tomato yuan
funniest shit i've ever seen
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>>488508238
Changes based on the day. This is the chart for it.
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Should I put Anby as the store promoter or will that block her from randomly appearing for trust events?
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>>488506985
Thanks, I beat it now!
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>>488508189
I have her and I never noticed, that's why I'm only commenting on what the patch notes said. I always see the buff on my statuses (the icon you're talking about) when she swaps out so I never thought otherwise.
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>lucy does literally nothing
>gets mvp
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anyone got the bangboo calcs spreadsheet
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>>488507943
I got 1 spin in albeithoughever, and I actually could've got a second one in in the beginning to keep my power stacks if I didn't misinput basic 2 instead of special
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>>488507491
How did you do s16? I'm using the exact same teams and I'm not even close.
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>>488508305
It's ogey.
Also
Never judge a disc till it's +15.
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>>488508379
It has no effect on Trust Events all it changes is how type of elemental skill mats you get
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>level starlight engine to 50 and refine it to 4*
>get steel cushion from standard banner
>already have brimstone
so what now? do i dismantle starlight engine?
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>sus
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>>488508517
Yes the SAAARlight coping is over
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It kinda sucks that buffs durations are really short like they really want us to play a bursty playstyle
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>>488508035
>b-ranking 17
yeah no shit that's easy as fuck dude.
A-ranking 16 or even S-ranking 14 without Grace is undoable, making it out of reach for 80% of all f2ps
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>>488508415
Piper is so bad ...
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>>488508415
Piper is literally negative DPS
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>>488508517
Starlight Engine is the most overrated engine because of some SEA TC's fuck up but it's also not bad.
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>>488508587
Stop posting these ugly dogs.
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>>488495583
>with bunch of english names thrown in like scott or billy.
what Is the difference with genshin then outside being german
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>>488508596
What the fuck are you talking about, we literally keep seeing the guy who full S cleared the first SD with Ellen and Nekomata teams. You're fucking shilling Electric over here when NOBODY has been able to clear SD17 with Electric teams without also using an Ellen and Zhu Yuan team.
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>>488508730
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>>488508587
keep posting these silly dogs
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There are too many quests!
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>enemy weakness: ice and ether

this shit is so tiresome, only 2 characters are usable
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>>488508475
I rolled DEF on the last stat
+1 HP, +1 Crit DMG, +2 ATK
It wasn't meant to be..
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>>488508587
soukaku's is long
zhu yuan is literally made for bursts rounds, her base kit reflects that, and nicole + qingyi reinforce that as well
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>>488508837
>too many quests
No such thing
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Is there a bangboo coming out that's better for Zhu than the resonboo
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>>488508908
nyo
copboo is shit
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>>488508716
>>488508517
wtf dismantling weapons doesn't refund dennies? it even costs me 500 dennies holy shit
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>>488509007
BRICKED
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>>488508797
Nyo...
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>>488508596
>S-ranking 14 without Grace is undoable
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KFl40AAIGtQ
Now what?
>S rank 15
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O14hPFOZCS8
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>>488509007
>he fell for it
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>>488508035
>wtf why is this s11 so much stronger than mine
>brimstone
I want good weapons...



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