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Romina Edition

>Main information document
https://rentry.org/erpasta

>Character planners
https://eip.gg/elden-ring/build-planner/
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/19Op36P7gdVMkPzFQX6OsjZcfyUjdGOj7Cjk9qFAVj-U/edit

>Interactive map
https://mapgenie.io/elden-ring/maps/the-lands-between

>Group password
erg

>Previous Grace:
>>489255053
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>>489328116
Romina's Buds
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Romina is a good looking boss from a distance, but up close she is disgusting because of those pink things on her skin
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Pidia is Radahn
Ranni is Miquella
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>so mad at how annoying it is to wait for my turn to fight it that I don't even refresh the area to see what changes
I can't handle being disappointed right now, need to clear my mind at Cerulean Coast.
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>>489328116
Rot Girl Summer
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Ah, the classic shared hatred over misunderstanding trope. The wholesome gimmick-build red, the enviable roleplayer red, they have a grasp of the mechanics of the game and so they explore their options to try and express creativity and engage with the platonic ideal of Miyazaki's unexpected miniboss. They invade the world of the average host with average phantoms, who have equipped items that someone else told them to equip, and are employing strategies that they did not discover on their own. They have no desire to explore the game's broader mechanics, they view the game and all within it as an obstacle between them and the dopamine hit of yellow text telling them that they have defeated the hard meme game. When the red arrives, they have no situational awareness of the circumstances, they have no threat assessment ability, they don't understand anything except that another player has come to take away their yellow text. The wholesome roleplayer approaches them with their Furled Finger Trick Mirror and their carefully sculpted appearance, suboptimal weapons gripped in their hands and no obnoxious invader tools up their sleeve. They present themselves as a fun encounter. The host and their phantoms do NOT see a fun encounter. They see the Bad Red Man. They think that this spiteful and malevolent player has come to ruin their experience rather than enhance it, and so they treat the red as such. The red, having experienced the unbridled contempt of people indulging in the only moment of control that they have in their life, comes away from the encounter filled with bitterness. He looks at what happened and thinks, "If I only had this, I could have won that fight." And then come the tools. The Golem Arrows. The Raw Meat Dumplings. The Starlight Shards. The hard swap practice. They become the Bad Red Man that the hosts think they are.
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anyone fc?
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Ok. I am convinced this is the best great hammer in the game. Nothing in its weapon class hits quite as hard. With my flask and 1 (ONE) buff I get 1250 AR. With golden vow in the mix I get 1450. Not to mention its absurdly good guard counter that stance breaks the living shit out of everything.
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>>489328698
My man it is way too early in the morning on a weekday for you to get an FC going.
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>>489328837
im not a amerimutt :/
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>>489328821
Is it a heavy build or sacred build?
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>>489328821
Second best, Great Stars is just too hard of an act to follow. Innate bleed plus passive healing on hit is just too much horse shit to top. That one is quite good though.
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>>489328938
sacred
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>>489328938
NTA but it actually works best on flame art. Funny enough the black knight weapons do best on flame art while the fire knight weapons do best on sacred.
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>>489328938
Works well on both. I like buffing it with Golden order weapon
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>>489328994
>>489329052
>>489329150
Yeah it’s a great weapon for faith builds. My second favorite weapon in the dlc
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>>489328947
Greatstars loses in fashion though
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>>489329242
This I will yield to. Great Stars looks awful by comparison.
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>>489328947
Great Stars are fine, but bleed with that mediocre swing speed is nothing special. Especially compared to hyperarmored giga-guard counters. Even in pvp.
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>>489329497
>bleed with that mediocre swing speed is nothing special
You're supposed to either Occult infuse it or cast BFB on it, anon.
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>>489329581
Even like that, it's nothing special. Giga guard counters are entirely competitive with it.
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why did they cut out all the cutscenes in the trailers from the base game and DLC
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>>489328698
If a third person is interested I'm willing to give it a try
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>>489329659
They really aren't.
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>decide to try out milady since people said it was good
>17 dex required
guess not lol
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>>489329937
They are. It's just like 90 bleed on a greathammer, it's nothing compared to the utility of the new counters.
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I don't remember going here in the dlc
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After playing Strength I just can't go back. Dex is so fucking weak, no staggering, no poise breaking, having to dip into things like bleed to make it viable or doing something gay like Dex/Int. Even if you make a split build in Strength like Str/Fai it is better than what Dex can produce. Why do Dexfags do it to themselves? Why don't they just make the switch?
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>>489330107
You didn't explore Shadow keep entirely then.
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>>489330107
lmao did you also miss Scadutree Avatar? How is it possible that you never did the second half of Shadow Keep?
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>>489329052
>actually works best on flame art
No. Flame Art's holy scaling is a dead weight.
330+223 sacred damage is better than 266+244 fire damage/84+73 sacred damage thanks to how the defenses are calculated in this game. Never go for a triple damage type spread.
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>>489329497
>that mediocre swing speed is nothing special
which is why you pair it up with wild swings to completely remove that downside, while also gaining effective 400 poise
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>>489330235
I got through the scat avatar, but I don't remember that narrow walkways
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>fighting Malenia with Dryleaf
>takes at least 3 kicks to stagger her
>can't knock her out of waterfowl
>phase 2 turns into Man vs RNG since she has so many instakill moves
It's my own damn fault, I had forgotten that Malenia is actually really hard when you're going it alone. Oh how I wish hand to hand weapons had more stagger.
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>>489330570
Well if you did Avatar that means you drained the Church District, right? There is an elevator in there that brings you up to the Specimen Storehouse back area, which gives you access to that spot you posted
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>>489330664
just throw a frost pot at her brodie
instantly knocks her out of waterfowl
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>>489330107
so you missed Gaius, shaman village and Metyr?
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>>489330778
>>489331145
Nevermind I actually did pass through that, the artwork made the narrowpath unrecognizable to me.
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>>489330125
>the moron thinks staggering is somehow inherent to STR builds when all the best stagger aow are designed for fast weapon classes, lighting is the best damage type in the game and all projectile ashes are stronger on keen
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>>489331348
>look I can stagger small weak enemies with my gay little L1 spams too! T-that counts!
>Nooooo you can't use lightening grease on heavy weapons!
>What do you mean Lion's Claw, Giant Hunt, Cragblade, etc are the best stagger/poise AoWs in the game?
>What do you mean they aren't made for fast weapons?
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>>489330125
the coolest colossal is dex with a fth req btw
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Realistically, when do you think we'll see an announcement for a new game? Next summer, maybe?
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>>489332019
>L1 spams
Try charged R2s with rakshasa, you queer
>lightening grease on heavy weapons
You need all that to emulate a portion of dex power
>Lion's Claw, Giant Hunt, Cragblade, etc are the best stagger/poise AoWs in the game
All inferior to unsheathe and can be used on dex weapons
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>>489330859
>frost pot
>heh, nice try goddess, but I've brought a clay pot with mashed up plants inside
Malenia confirmed to be a jobber.
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>>489332223
trailer at lameawards
release in april
trust the plan xister
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>>489332223
idk but I want them (or some competent studio) to steal the Spellbound idea from that fake leak
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>>489332258
>he needs to charge R2 with a specific weapon to match 1 R1 stagger of literally any heavy strength weapon
>he needs to forbid the use of greases in order to keep his point valid
>he thinks unsheathe matches literally any of those AoW listed for poise damage
peak Dex cope
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>>489330057
>utility of counters
lmao
Paired Great Stars staggers everything in seconds, and while the bleed isn't great it's enough to proc exultation and send it's AR to the stratosphere.
The best part of the BS hammer is the Giant-Crusher tier AR with the Sacred infusion, would be a great weapon if you could farm a second one instead of being an one time drop.
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they really need to fix the messmer fight. after the phase 2 transition he can get stuck behind the altar AND in the floor. doesnt happen often but if youre helping co op this boss over and over you will see it happen.
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>>489330308
I disagree for the DLC at least.
I've tested this a bit and due to the DLC AR scaling, triple split weapons actually hit really fucking hard.
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>>489329052
That sounds retarded to make a weapon triple split damage.
I definitely could be wrong, but it seems like an awful idea.
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>i forgot to note the shadow frags i got and i'm missing two

goddammit
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>>489332223
most likely, with 2026 release
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>>489322506
>The fuck are you people even doing in this game where you need to cure rot?
Having some phantom repeatedly cast rotten breath while being protected by two dudes swinging colossal weapons at me.
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What is in your opinion the shittest enemy/boss in the game?
I personally hate these faggots.
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>abyssal woods not an invasion area
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>>489332762
Unsheathe is as fast as a Colossal R1, and has more range with the Nagakiba.
Dex is completely braindead to play as, you can just mash L2R2 until everything dies.
What STR had over it for PVE is the Fingerprint.
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>>489333153
midra - i hate delayed attacks
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>>489333189
It absolutely is. You're only gonna invade passwrod phantom ganksquads there, though.
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>>489333153
I'm at Godskin Duo, and boy I am not looking forward to really attempting to beat them.
I hated the Godskin Apostle and was overleveled when I got to fatty.

It's a fairly interesting fight in that I (as a STR build) will basically need to either cheese with sleep
or just be super defensive and be prepared for a fight that could take like 15 minutes.
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what's the unsheathe for curved swords, thrusting swords, axes and clubs?
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>>489333153
Why are these niggers able to do their gap-closer attack up to ten times in a row even if you're right in front of them?
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>>489333278
it would have been a kino 6 player area
i want to bathe in the blood of 600hp burger king virgins
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I'm stuck on consort radahn. I can get through phase 1 with barely using the estus, but I am never able to get him below 50% health without dying. I am using a lightning uchigatana, with crucible armor, and defensive talismans.
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>>489333189
>he missed the golden post dlc period when every shitter was trying to get through
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>>489333383
There's a reason why nobody uses those classes.
Except Curved Swords, those have busted jump attacks so just spam those.
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>>489333502
Yeah with a few more enemies it would have made a great zone for an area defense covenant. But we're not allowed to have those anymore.
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Still waiting for a way to go to jagged peak without beating dragonman

There's two skibidis there
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>>489333546
nice spell selection, what's the weapon?
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>>489333608
single curved swords have busted jump attacks?
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>>489333651
It's the messmer soldier spear, an infusable long lance with treespear r2
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>>489333383
clubs have a fantastic cr2 which is used even on rl1 a lot for posture damage.
thrusting sword can use impaling thrust or fang for posture damage and range.
curved swords don't need high stagger, they are perfect for a multihit build, which is one of the highest dps playstyles in the game
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>>489333739
Only dual.
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>>489333349
I summoned bernahl and used sleep pots. It was fun times
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>>489333153
the dlc faggot slugs that spam the perfect tracking horse knocking 3km grab are on top of my shitlist
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>>489333216
So now you're falling back on speed?
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>>489332019
str niggers play the easiest build and keep this dishonest narrative
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are there any good utility sorceries? starlight I guess?
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What’s a good greatsword to use with a greatshield?
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>>489334084
Strengthchads are forced to find the best openings in boss fights, whereas Dexfags just throw an R1 in between each swing to chip away like cowards
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>>489333153
anything with delayed attacks
anything with no downtime between attacks
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How do you reliably avoid Radahn's attacks in phase 2? He swings, I dodge, I get caught in his fucking follow up holy AOE bullshit. I hate this boss
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>>489333486
dumb fromsoft AI.
Ludwig could start his charge when you were right beside him. It also hits behind him.
Consort Radahn can do both his ranged attacks (gravity pull and gravity spinning) when you are right by him.
It's retarded in every case
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>>489334832
roll into him to the left
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Are the swift/smithscript spears worth anything?
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>>489334861
>Ludwig could start his charge when you were right beside him. It also hits behind him
Seems to be a running theme.
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I AM THE STORM THAT IS APPROAAAAAAACHING.
PROVOOOOOOOOOOOKING BLACK CLOUDS IN IIIISOLATIOOOOOOON
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>>489333739
dual with bleed
don't even need to buff stack since you'll get off bleed so quickly

arguably one of the most overpowered and braindead builds. same with claws and bleed.
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>someone in last thread said flails do tons of poise damage
>test it out on an enemy with tons of poise
>never stun them
>use two handed sword
>stun them in 3 hits
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>>489330125
Just put impaling thrust ash on a lance or on some other great spear or great sword and you stance break faster than the vast majority of strength builds.
Dex/int is very good, you can use the fast glintstone pebble to easily prevent poise from resting.
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>>489335269
I don't use flails but iirc they have very high posture damage on guard counters
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is this dex or arc?

35 dex is a huge commitment on 150 arcane builds just to use this.
17 arc on 150 dex builds is also a bit.
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Why'd they give Miquella a dumptruck
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>>489335146
endmaxxing chad
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>>489335635
Impaling Thrust only does 33 poise damage with those weapon types, vs 45 with, say, Lion's Claw
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>>489335705
you tell me
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Leda shouldve been Miquella's consort, they could have attempted to do something like what they wanted to do for Oscar in Ds1 in cut content. I guess she is still our rival but facing her as a final boss and giving her more buildup wouldve been honestly been cool
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>>489333632
Do you think Micky ever... you know...
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>mickella
>sends us on a mickey mouse adventure
bravo mikeyazaki san
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>>489336156
pleases old men for money
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>>489336156
had sex with himself? all the time
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I think I found a new weapon to use a bunch. I was using the Serpent Flail for a while, but it bothers me thinking how it's basically the boomhammer but no where near as fun.
Now I found this and read the description and it fits me perfectly after marrying Ranni.
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Ranni and Miquella sex
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Radahn is simply not a fun boss. The first phase is manageable but still bullshit. Roll dodge one attack, caught by his second without fail. AOE gravity pull attack that has an area of about half the arena into unavoidable AOE rocks. Instant teleport attacks. AOE follow up attacks to the normal attacks. Instant death mechanic. Insane reach on every attack he does. Instant follow up attacks even after his heavy attacks. Half of my estus charges are wasted because he gap closes even from extreme range to hit you while you are healing with a full combo. It's just pure luck getting the right RNG on his attack choices to down him.
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>>489336703
For once horny shit doesn't sound like some baseless headcanon either because experimenting with your genderswapped self is exactly something a kid would do and this one was a lot like his mommy.
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>>489335010
Perfectly balanced
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>>489337064
I like this idea too even though my headcanon is that he was probably her least favorite sibling, but that shouldn't get in the way of how much I like it conceptually. I wrote smut about this once but it was kind of goofy, so I might return to the idea.
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Daedicar and god-devouring serpent sex
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>>489337683
>he was probably her least favorite sibling
ranni hates FAGGOTS
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>>489336918
you can also try the gargoyle blackblade, it has a powerful L2
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>doing a playthrough where I do everything honestly for the first time in forever
>spend 2 hours getting everything going
>finally get to the point where i can farm my weapon of choice
>spend 40 minutes farming a single skeleton for the executioner greataxe (with bird feet)
>open CE and drop it for myself
I needed a good ol' fashioned reminder to never farm fucking anything in this stupid game, what a rip-off
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>>489337754
This, but also I just don't think she'd care for him being a goody two shoes with all the cunning of a snail.
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>>489337864
CE addicted troons probably booted up CE the moment they opened the DLC on launch day and then they dropped themselves everything and activated all graces for invasion.
I don't think any of these have ever played the game other than using the bloody finger.
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^owned
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>>489333153
Magma Wyrm is fantastic, but it suffers the same problem Ulcerated Tree Spirit in that it was used more than once.
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>found sellens real body and got her primal glintstone
>remembered this doll
>brought the primal glintstone to this empty doll
No option to give it the primal glintstone. Is this not what I'm meant to do? It says to bring it to a body so I can revive Sellen.
Am I retarded? I was so certain this is what I had to do.
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>>489333546
It's so fun sabotaging people from the cliffside.
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Messmer's flame projectiles are retarded. They track may too much and I'm almost certain their hitboxes are way bigger than they should be.
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>giga turbo poise break
>giga turbo stagger capability
>giga turbo hyperarmor
>one of the hardest hitting weapon arts
>scale into DEX/FTH

So?
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>>489337864
All the weapons should've been a static loot from across the overworld. Replace most useless shit with them and armor pieces. The game would improve tenfold.
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>>489338394
dex weapon with 20 faith tax.
20 faith just to use the only huge sword that works for dex.
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>>489338394
How does it cut with no blade?
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>>489338276
>Is this not what I'm meant to do?
depends on what sellen needs you to do at the moment
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>>489338276
Talk to Jerren and then return to Witchbane Ruins
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>>489335671
Go 45 arc (soft cap), 50~60 dex, spend the rest as you find comfortable

very cool weapon, not the strongest, but very fun and flashy
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>>489338394
>one of the hardest hitting weapon arts
unless they have severly buffed it since launch, then it just does pretty mediocre damage with it's weapon arts in comparison to the war crime levels of damage some other stuff can do
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just beat it. not at all a lore nerd(i read item descriptions but that's it, i will never watch a youtube video telling me a game's story) so i don't really care about radahn not being hinted at over godfrey or whatever, but it's still a bad last boss. both disappointing for reusing him, uninteresting as a fight, and also lame because between miquella and whatever they were doing with radahn/mohg, i expected there to be multiple bosses left.
some alternatives that would have been good:
the revival ritual isn't finished yet so miquella alone is the last boss, there's an incomplete fusion of radahn and mohg as a secret boss at the end of the euporia path. mohg was the best boss in the main game so including more of him to the fight would be better than the "radahn but with holy lasers" we got.
last boss is friede again. miquella phase 1 before the ritual is complete, ritual completes and it's miquella + radahn (or just radahn) in phase 2. in phase 3 miquella, having discarded his emotions, has no way to process the loss of his consort and he goes full anime like friede.
drop the radahn subplot entirely. dane leads the gank squad and leda is miquella's consort and the last boss.
also unrelated but fuck from for giving godskin enjoyers nothing in the dlc.
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>>489338908
>last boss is friede again
no, pontiff actually lmao
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>>489338712
Thanks anon.
>Most dangerous mage in the entire Raya Lucaria history
That's pretty neat.
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>>489338908
>reuses base game bosses
>NO godskins because fuck YOU
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>gravity pull into gravity rocks into instant teleport slashes into instant 6 hit aoe combo
what the actual fuck is this shit? This isn't fun man. I can't even get a heal off without leaving myself wide open for a death combo that lasts 15 seconds
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>>489338908
>fuck from for giving godskin enjoyers nothing in the dlc.
yeah lets reuse the literal most reused boss in the base game for more ""content""!!
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>>489334237
starlight, unseen form, terra magica, the blackhole spell that SUCCS other spells in
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>>489339339
i didn't say they should make us fight the two already existing godskin enemies again, that's all in your imagination. but also, dragons.
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>>489339339
>yeah lets reuse the literal most reused boss in the base game for more ""content""!!
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>>489338276
I still have no idea jerren's beef with sellen, isn't she's just following azur and lusat's footsteps
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>>489339629
>>yeah lets reuse the literal most reused boss in the base game for more ""content""!!
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>>489339629
there's only 4 actual bosses of the spirit, while the godskins have 4 appearances with a boss health bar EACH
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>>489339756
God's work
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>>489338727
is that a build that's good at nothing?
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>>489340241
>white mask bullgoat
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>>489340241
what a stupid build
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>>489339319
Yeah its rough, I think he's overtuned, not because of the damage or overall moveset but because they didn't really think about which attacks make sense where. Some attacks shouldn't be allowed after others, some attacks shouldn't occur at close range. Cross slash attack should never be allowed.
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>>489340241
Alexander's Shard is probably more important than the 2h talisman for Morgott's sword.
The L2 is the main draw of the weapon.
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>>489335671
It's primarily a dex weapon with an arc requirement, same as Rivers of Blood, Eleonora's Poleblade, and Obsidian Lamina. You use it on dex/arc builds.
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>>489338394
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>>489339319
>>489340410
Isshin was FIVE years ago something has clearly gone wrong at FromSoftware
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My ps5 controller doesn't charge when I plug it into my pc. I can't play Elden Ring. Life is pain.
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I want to try invading in seamless, my first idea was to remake my rl81 +17 dex invader from year one of the game
is it an active level range or should I go higher? I know that you get matched with the highest level among the hosts
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>>489340657
is that shia labeouf?
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>>489340785
Try doing a factory reset on your controller. That fixed a similar issue I had.
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>Malenia somehow falls wrong on the floor and resets to standing, denying me my punish
This happens way too often
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>>489340854
Yes, it is.
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>>489340410
I just had him do gravity pull, into teleport slash, with an instantaneous AOE gravity rocks follow up on top of me. Since AOE gravity rocks is an impossible to avoid at point blank range it killed me. And since he started AOE gravity rocks as a follow up to the teleport slashes, he was automatically at point blank range. Literally unavoidable damage.
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>Milicent invaded me before i met her
in my head canon i cut off her rotting arm
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>>489341218
Yeah I haven't found a way to avoid some damage. If you miss the gravity pull roll in phase 2 you just have to run away and pray, you usually take some damage from the final AOE. I have only seen this chain every time in P2:
>gravity pull (you failed the dodge)
>AOE smash
>teleport smash
>AOE smash

Just start running away from the gravity pull, you avoid the first AOE smash, the clones but you get tagged with the second smash but hopefully you can survive that damage.
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>>489341218
>its unavoidable bad rng aieeeee
Skill. Issue.
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>>489341447
huh, never noticed that. neat.
i imagine invasions are like remembrances (le flow of time is convoluted) which is why dung eater is red in the roundtable hold and doesn't recognize you in the jail and why vyke is in the church
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I think the Radahn fight would have been way better if the second phase was a bit harder BUT everything did less damage. The second phase really needs more time for the player to understand how to dodge the attacks but if you fuck up everything snowballs and you die extremely fast. The light show also makes it really hard to see what the fuck to dodge.
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>>489342347
I look like this btw
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>>489341843
dung eater is actually deepest lore
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uh oh..
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>>489342549
i can't be bothered to upload 2 other pictures artist is @gu599
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Is Rellana twin moons any good?
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>>489340605
It's actually the longest curved sword and they have an excellent base moveset.
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i swear the raksasha great katana ash of war has the jankiest parry window
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>>489335705
He's a succubus
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>>489342826
retard
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The second belurat grace shouldn't exist. There should only be the elevator grace and the boss fog grace.
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>>489343020
Yeah, but the L2 is a big part of why the weapon is good.
Personally I'd just drop the Bullgoat Talisman and use both.
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>>489343174
he can succ my ubus
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>>489335705
remember when vaati made a 40+ minute video about this one image and then it turned out that literally nothing except "realm of death" was remotely remotely relevant
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>>489343238
A big argument against two handing morgott's sword on high levels is ansbach's furious blade
It gives you insane mixups together with CGS moveset
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>>489333153
Wyrms and Ancient Dragons have way too much fucking HP for being field bosses. They have like 4 whole moves and the rest is just slowly chunking away at their huge resists and HP pools.
Absolute cancer to fight more than once and they used them both like 6 times
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>>489339491
does terra magica increase magic damage dealt by weapons or ashes?
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>>489343645
>elden ring pvp
>mixups
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>>489342549
>>489342826
>posts untranslated pages
>doesn't even bother to upload the full thing
>refuses to elaborate
>leaves
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>>489342826
any translator anon's willing to share what is being said here
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>>489344191
IT IS A REAL FIGHTING GAME I AM A BIG BOY
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>>489343625
No because I've never succeeded in watching more than five minutes of his videos in my life and I don't know how anyone can.
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>>489343845
all sources. consumables included as well
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>>489343845
Literally any damage that's flagged with the magic element.
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>>489344245
>ELDEN RING PVP IS A FIGHTING GAME? | Real Talk
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>>489344245
Hardswapping alone defeats any credibility of being a fighting game imagine if Ryu could also Hakumen parry after a King chainthrow while spacing with Superman eyebeam by pressing start
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>>489344652
I understood 3/4 of this
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>>489344191
You're as retarded as people trying to make FGC out of souls
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>>489345012
Why?
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Is there an online tool where I can plug in my current stats and get an output for the recommended weapons, armor, talismans, spells, and/or Great Rune I should have?
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>>489345184
Because elden ring undeniably has mixups and it's not a term specific to fighting games for quite a long while now
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I've got absolutely no answer for Consort Radahn right now. 2nd phase combos are ludicrously long and dangerous. If he decides to AOE holy bomb when you are drinking, that's a guaranteed hit. If he decides to AOE rocks on top of you, that's a guaranteed hit. 3 slash combo? Guaranteed hit. Hit by any of those? Good luck healing because he'll just start another combo directly after hitting you. Bad boss. Not fun. Do not feel I should have to respec to counter one boss in the game when respecs are inherently limited and I melted everything else
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>>489345437
>I've got absolutely no answer for Consort Radahn right now
parry
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>>489345359
Nobody has even mentioned fighting games until somebody else did, quoting the same post as you. The post you quote has no mention of any fighting games whatsoever.
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>>489345484
But none of his attacks can be parried.
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>>489345518
Nobody forced you to open your own mouth and reveal your own stupidity, either, but here we are.
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>>489345484
Again, should not have to respec
>>489345686
yes they can
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>>489345437
Just deflect, bro.
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What's the deep lore on the Tarnished's original maiden. You know, the one we find dead at the beginning of the game. You didn't forget about her right? She loved you.
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>>489345785
You're the one inferring stuff that nobody has said and making up posts in your head, which is typically a trait of somebody so stupid that they think they're actually smart.
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>>489345853
respec? just lug one of these bad boys
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>>489345992
allegedly varre killed her
why? who knows
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>>489346014
Stick to funny pictures. Your verbal diarrhea has even less meaning.
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>>489346126
Yeah but who is she. What's her favorite food? What's her blood type? Would she have married us after we beat the game?
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>>489345437
Just cheese him. It's an abject failure of a boss.
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>Get bored of my build after a week of respeccing
What am I supposed to do to keep things fresh? I do high level invasions now, but almost nothing is actually effective against gank squads. Has anyone found new fun in completely starting over from RL1?
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>>489346219
It doesn't matter. She is like Died Mahn from the Ace Attorney series: a character who only exists to be a corpse.
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>>489346186
I was simply curious as to why somebody who makes fun of somebody for using "mixups" as an elden ring pvp term, is as bad as people who wants the game to be a fighting game, and here you are going off on me despite not having posted a single picture in the entire general.
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>>489334272
Uhhhhh anyone?
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>>489335705
Big butts seem to run in the family
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>>489346342
It does matter. She loved us and we should resurrect her. She's the true waifu we all forgot.
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>>489345992
She's cute.
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>>489346247
>Has anyone found new fun in completely starting over from RL1?
ye
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>>489346786
>Dex build
Literally impossible to be fun
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>>489346247
cheat characters to be lower level/upgrade and play different brackets where scaling and stat limitations different weapons viable.
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>>489336918
which weapon is this
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What does Marika smell like?
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>>489347008
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>>489347085
Nothing, she is a fictional character in a video game. She does not even have a real human model in the game either.
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>>489347008
Golden Order Greatsword, you get it from the Cave of the Forlorn in the snowfields.
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>>489347085
Glory.
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>>489347231
Yeah but what's in her perfume bottle?
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>>489347085
Like the freshest marigold flowers
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>>489347212
This is why you're a genetic dead end
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>>489347382
Her own sweat since the natural odor of her perfect body is better than any perfume out there.
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>>489347451
Brother, I'm not the one trying to pretend what a fictional character smells like. I may be a genetic dead end in many aspects of my life, but this ain't one of them.
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Any easy ways of giving a new character specific items?

I wanna start the game with the fire knight greatsword.
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Some of the Marika statues you come across are really small? Was this bitch like 4'9 or something
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Is the Dark Moon Greatsword still a powerful weapon post-DLC?
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>>489346914
less a dex build and more of a "use whatever the hell you can with your limited stats" build...
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>>489347623
the dark moon greatsword wasn't a powerful weapon pre-dlc, and certainly not post-dlc.
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>>489347623
yes, you just can't sit halfway across the room and stance break everything anymore
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Why does Moore exist? Gowry serves the exact same purpose narratively. Why not have a Cleanrot Knight or Malenia's never before mentioned bff as her rep instead which would make infinitely more sense then a bug Miquella is trying to get rid of? Also taken without context it's like the writers are trying to make us feel bad for Moore and resent Malenia when she has every right to tell the pests to fuck off
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13 years later and DS1 still has the best dragon form. But ER's isn't all bad, it's a step up from 3 at least
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>>489347606
Cheat Engine
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Whats the best normal thrusting sword for a dex build? I'm trying to avoid status stiff and just RP as a knight
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>>489347623
If the Moonveil+10 Uchigatana+25 combo isn't working I bring out Ol' Reliable and she does the job well
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https://comic-walker.com/detail/KC_005312_S/episodes/KC_0053120004800011_E?episodeType=first
new manga chapter
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>>489346914
>RL1
>build
?
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>>489347984
>Gowry serves the exact same purpose narratively
They have literally nothing in common
Moore shows that not all kindreds are the same, it's possible for human to establish a bond with them and help other people
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>Radahn grab attack
>dodge through it and Lion's Claw
>recovers faster than me and one hit combo's me
cool boss
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>>489348079
Estoc, or Rogier's Rapier if you really like its R2
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>>489346247
Make a RL1 invasion character with DLC shit. Getting to DLC legit on level 1 is fun as fuck. Gaining things like divine beast head to have 19 19 str dex on level 1 is even funnier.
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>>489347984
>it's like the writers are trying to make us feel bad
there you have the reason. it's from soft, they have the writing capability equivalent to that of a torture porn director
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>>489348336
>overcommit, get punished
wooooow
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>>489347452
I was trying for the whole "yeah but what's in your pants" "conquest" thing
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>>489347984
Malenia is bad for rejecting her godhood because her worshippers feel bad but she would also be bad if she pursued godhood because as Miquella shows it makes you le evil.
there's no winning here and there's no thematic significance, Miyazaki just wants everything to be shit all the time because he can't write
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>>489347085
The sweetest honey
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>>489347984
A Cleanrot Knight NPC who talks a lot about Malenia, the war, and her relationship with Miquella would have solved 60-70% of the DLC's writing problems unironically.
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>>489348206
Moore's sole purpose is to tell you that Malenia abandoned the kindred which we learn in the base game. Gowry has his whole quest, but if you ally with Millicent he dies lamenting how Malenia hated the kindred and abandoned them.
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>>489348826
This, people seethe about Godwyn but it its genuinely unforgivable that Malenia is never mentioned by name. St. Trina would be the perfect candidate to talk about her being Miquella's love and Malenia (supposedly) being the person Miquella loved the most but she says nothing but "godhood bad kill Miquella"
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>>489348752
So Nepheli, Millicent, Kenneth Haight, Alexander, Diallos, and the Jar-Bairn were written by different writers than Miyazaki? I heard they can get varying degrees of happy ending.
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If Radahn is supposed to be the son of Radagon and Renallab why does she look like a nigger
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>>489348079
For pure dex nobles has the longest reach while the standard estoc has the best damage. If you're planning on two handing I reccomend the nobles estoc, otherwise standard is probably best.
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If Miyazaki wanted me to empathize with the rottards, maybe he shouldn't have made their manifestation in the world an ugly ass cancer disfiguring rotting disease that gives you super poison and everyone obsessed with it a weird looking cockroach that make skitish sounds.
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FROM should drop their decrepit engine and just move to UE5.
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>>489349295
SO much fucking shit we've been saddled with for an entire game series would be solved if they'd just fucking change game engines.
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>>489347617
She literally 9ft tall, she would toss the tarnished around like a doll like Malenia does
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"Be sad forever" being a dialogue option followed by an NPC dying of concentrated sadness is one of the many moments in the DLC that felt like deliberate trolling of the audience, along with Rellana's existence, the "be my consort" trailer fakeout, morr Ulcerated Tree Sentinel, and a reskinned Tree Sentinel that doesn't even have unique music being a Remembrance boss.
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I really do hate Miyazaki for intentionally taking things out of the lore to obfuscate it. Fuck him. I'd slap him in the cock if I met him.
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>>489349295
do you want even more bugs
they barely make a game work with decades of experience with it and now you want em to switch to a whole ass new engine?
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>>489349295
>just move to stuttergarbage
no
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>>489349081
>Millicent
>Diallos
>happy ending
Did you play a different game?
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>>489347984
I think Freyja gets it pretty bad too since her "quest" is just some dialogue. She's in all the promo material and yet, doesn't do jack or shit
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>>489349084
Heavy tan from years of combat training in the nude
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>>489349295
They likely either don't know how to in time or can't afford the Epic cut past the initial million on top of the Valve/Sony/Microsoft cut
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Fuck this nigger. Not fun. 0/10.
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>>489349481
I'd rather FROM not go down the same road Bethesda did. Bite the bullet now and swap engines, or pay the price down the line.
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>>489349045
Trina also feels like a last second inclusion. She's literally just in a cave with four lines and that's it. She doesn't even have any animations, dialogue options, relevant exposition, tied spells or mobs (the Putrescent Knight is a repurposed GEQ Knight model according to the file names).
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>>489345992
Would.
>>489346565
Agree.
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>>489349501
Dantelion is THE stuttering engine anon it can't even sequence multiple LoDs+shaders in somewhere like Liurnia or Shadow Keep base without shitting itself. Stock Unreal would literally just be an improvement by the fact it can actually just load things properly.
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>>489349295
Nah they better pick something else. All UE5 games have this vibe that something is off, like shlomo shekelberg is staring at you counting his esg points behind the monitor.
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>>489343645
>ansbach's furious blade
A) 40 dex 19 fth 40 arc
B) 40 dex 40 fth 27 arc
C) 40 dex 19 fth 27 arc X mind
Using with Keen Milday BHS mainhand
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>>489349528
Dying is happy ending in Fromsoft's games.
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>>489350247
I have played UE5 games, it would not be an improvement
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>>489347606
Glorious Merchant
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Is there a mod that replaces Radahn and Miquella's victory message with "FAGS SLAIN" instead of "GOD SLAIN" yet
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>>489348185
no way...
(still no sellen)
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What STR/DEX stat distribution and infusion would be "optimal" if i want to use only realistic equipment? No anime-retard weapons or magic. Only stuff like longsword, mace, spear, you get it.
I want to target RL125-RL200 for random boss co-op.
Heavy seems like the best choice, but some weapons lose like 20% AR at the second softcap, so i don't know if i should go with Quality or Keen instead.
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>Mother's rich slumber shall not be disturbed by thee
>Foul trespasser
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>>489350678
She is simply too SEX for the manga to handle
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>Try to make a new character
>Almost fall asleep while riding torrent in the open world
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anyone knows where you can read the 2nd elden ring manga i think it's more romance and cute
>>489350829
i imagine she will show soon though, with radahn dead
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>create new character
>CE in every weapon
>CE in all armor
>CE in all talismans
>CE in all spells and incantations
>CE in all ash of war
I will now play your game
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>>489350871
The open world experiment failed for FromSoftware they simply can't make one with the state of the DLC two years after base game
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>>489350687
enough dex to weild want you want and then max str and 2h
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>>489328116
I wish romina's weapon was good
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>>489350714
Messmer's design is cool but everything about his motivations are fucking retarded
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>create a new character
>have fun traveling back and forth picking the pieces I want for my build
>finally pick up the last piece
>make a new character
>have fun traveling back and forth picking the pieces I want for my build
>
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>>489349084
hes an og thugshaker
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>>489349453
I'm sure he's aware that people's head canon for filling in obscure/missing lore are far better than his team could ever write.
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>>489328478
I miss my sister
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>>489349826
He was kinda fun in phase 1, then the shit you memorized in phase 1 gets thrown out.
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>>489350451
UE5 is still relatively new, so there's not as much documentation or devs experienced with it. Every UE goes through this cycle, and if history is any indication it would pay off in the long run to switch now. UE4 started off just as rough, but Lies of P looks, runs and plays better than ER despite being from a much smaller studio. And its in good part because they're using better tech.
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>>489352121
Lies of P looks worse than Bloodborne, runs worse than Elden Ring, and is as clunky as og Demon's Souls.
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I think I'm cooking up some movementkino.
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I've honed my sword in the arena, I will now embark on a quest to help others fight through the dlc as a proud noble with knightly blood. Wish me luck anons.
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some of you want to play an ubisoft game so bad
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What's a good spell buff calculator website that's up to date with the DLC? The one I usually use isn't up to date.
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I believe the dlc was going to be about Godwyn until From saw people had figured that out, especially the Zanzibart meme that had Miquella on Godwyn’s back.
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>>489350871
I don't think it's a bad overworld but it's way too big. Mountaintops of the giants is the perfect example, you could cut off 50% of the map and nothing of value would be lost.
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>>489350687
Full arcane occult build and use flamberge or katana/great katanas. Or do a str/arc or dex/arc hybrid for bleed infused weapons, arc to 45 then pump the damage stat.
DLC boss co-op health inflation is insane, status is almost mandatory.
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Shit.
Who should I side with? I wanted Jerrens armor so I'm assuming I'd get it if I killed him with Sellen, but then Sellen started saying shit like "expelling the Carian royal family" probably talking about Renalla who's my mother-in-law...
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>>489353280
Built for a competent father figure.
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>>489353429
Liurnia too, there's literally nothing and all the caves are so bad
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>>489352753
thats some nice movement, anon
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>>489353616
Sellen gives you an INT dagger and you get Jerren's set plus she sells you some other spell, Jerren gives you an ancient dragon stone AFAIK.
>>489353737
Thank you.
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>>489353616
She'll just move her off behind a bookcase, there's no regicide
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>>489353616
whoever you chose, Sellen loses
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>>489351328
>download CE
>add everything I want for the build at the start
>kill tree sentinel and then tab out and never play the character again
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schizo lore observation
in Dark Souls 3 when you give the Painter the Dark Pigment, she says something like "it will be a very cold and gentle place". In Elden Ring, both Ranni and Miquella talk about their ages lasting 1,000 years, with Ranni having a COLD moon and Miquella's age being one of compassion. How's that for the Souls Cinematic Universe???
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>>489353616
Sellen. Only reason to side with Jerren is if you really want that stone
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>>489353869
Sellen wanted to get balled
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Consort is the best final boss in from history solely because it made loreniggers shit and piss themselves malding about it
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>>489353970
In dark souls 1 the jars at the beginning are full of poop and elden ring is poop, so elden ring is actually a dark souls turd.
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>>489353123
I think Death in general had more upfront importance in the DLC at one point.
I remember when the SOTE trailer came out and people thought the Scadutree was Deathblight related because it was a black and gold tree, just like the Deathblight status.
And then you have the Putrescent Knight originally being intended to be tied to GEQ so that would cover that side of the Death stuff.
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>>489353970
>elden ring 2
>Player teams up with Ranni, Godwyn, Velka and Flame God Flan to kill Super God and restart the universe
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Final DLC Death Count:
Dancing Lion: 2 deaths
Rellana: 0 deaths
Putrescent Knight: 0 deaths
Messmer the Impaler: 1 death
Gaius: 0 deaths
Scadutree Avatar: 0 deaths
Metyr, Mother Of Fingers: 0 deaths
Romina, Saint Of The Bud: 0 deaths
Midra, Lord Of Frenzied Flame: 0 deaths
Bayle The Dread: 0 deaths
Promised Consort Radahn: 20-30 deaths (lost count)

Maybe Radahn is just bad boss design? Just a thought.
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good morning erg!!
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>>489354652
>Erg – a broad, flat area of desert covered with wind-swept sand with little or no vegetative cover.
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>>489352917
I want to play a FROM game that isn't saddled by 10+ years of technical debt.
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>>489354652
You are not HIM.
>>489354615
>Maybe Radahn is just bad boss design? Just a thought.
Yes.
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>>489354652
Good morning, I hate women.
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Do you fellow faithbros actually use Black Flame's Protection, or do you just stick with Boiled Crab? The healing debuff really doesn't feel worth it.
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>thanks for helping me tarnished you did great and you're a fantastic person and im really glad you were my apprentice because you're so great
>oh btw WHEN, not if, you become the Elden Lord, just know Raya Lucaria will follow you completely because you're great and we love you
>2 minutes later
>depression
What is this shit?
Why does every quest need to end in doom and gloom?
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>>489354867
Why do you hate women, anon?
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>>489354956
Michaelzacharias hates happiness.
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>>489352917
There's quantifiably less to do in the open world than Ubisoft games and DLC amplified this shit is EMPTY anon
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>>489354956
Miyazaki is a mentally ill autist. He can't help it.
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>>489354964
They are retarded and usually whores.
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After 100%ing the game, there is 0 reason to ever play eldenroll again. Thank god. AC6 was miles better.
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>>489354956
It's the brand or something (Lazy devs)
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>>489354956
It's no different to this guys quest.
You help him get back into the academy and he just dies.
Would it be so bad to have him get back in to the academy and just chill out in this chair studying?
All you need is for him to have 1 line just saying "Thanks for letting me back in, I'm gonna study shit now thanks tarnished bro"
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>>489355113
t. they sleep with everyone who isn't you
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>>489353123
Unfortunately Radahn and Miquella have always been engaged and are now happily married forever
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I found out that great katanas are amazing against fire knights. just two hand it then spam the running light attack and the follow up thrust.
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>>489354956
Mayonese-san's writers think the plot is mature when everyone dies at the end
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Anyone else think the music tracks in ER are bland. The boss music can be pretty decent, but almost all the non-boss music is forgettable.
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>>489354951
>not Golden Vow + Flame Grant Me Strength
okay retard
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>>489354956
Partially laziness partially trolling
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>>489354956
sad... forever?
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>>489353616
Side within Sellen gives you
>Glintstone Kris
>Shard Spiral
>Access to Lusat's and Azur's sets
>Jerren's set
Siding with Jerren gives you
>Ancient Dragon Smithing Stone

Sellen undoubtedly gives better rewards but they only matter if you're doing an int build. I always side with Jerren otherwise just because he's a bro and he's one of the few friendly NPCs that actually survives past the end of their questline.
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>>489347984
I'd argue that Moore and the friendly foragers definitely made me sympathize with those bugs and their abandonment infinitely more than the aggressive pests tormenting me or sage gowry serving nothing but gross old creep vibes
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>>489355549
I would say that music was never that important, but I'd be lying. Music can really elevate a game. I think ER has a weaker track in general than BB and Dark Souls 2/3. Compare the Roundtable Hold theme to Majula for example. Lies of P also had a great soundtrack:

https://youtu.be/nB-93gQZUNY
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>>489355618
FGMS is a shit spell for the average player and I'm tired of pretending otherwise
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I'm tempted to make a poiseblob with 60 VIG at level 80 and just minimum requirements to wield weapons just to see how much of a meme scaling is at this level.
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>get summoned as a blue
>just watch the overleveled phantom and the host get murdered
This red was really polite.
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>>489355791
Sellen can survive so long as you don't tell her where the bodies are.
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>>489352753
wtf i was told you can't strafe any bosses in the DLC

wtf... wtf!
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Is Urumi a fun weapon
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>>489355549
The only boss I remember the music track is the Elden Beast, the rest are just generic orchestra to me
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>>489356038
DS1 has the best soundtrack still. Sakuraba just "got it" while Kitamura kept trying to compensate each successive track until she seemingly just quit.
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>>489356304
Yeah.
It also got a pretty big boost with the DLC.
Just stack the 2h talisman and Shriek of Sorrow and the charged R2 starts hitting like a truck.
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the music being bland generic orchestra slop is actually a touch of genius design as it is indicative and emblematic of the thematic motif that Elden Ring presents about itself which is that is is the fast food equivalent to their older games
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>>489356304
PVP? Sure. PVE? It's a whip, so... you know.
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>no red wolf sword
>no finger paralyzing spell
>no crucible quadruped
>no ping pong cluster death projectile

Whatever, still 9/10 game
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>>489354956
In his quest to write Berserk fanfiction, Miyazaki has forgotten that the glimmers of hope (and an unquenchable rage) are the reason the struggle continues.
Oddly enough, it feels like DaS2 was the only one of these games where things feel hopeful in any way. It's like he just wants to push you into the cringelord reddit nihilist endings every single time.
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>>489356449
Dark Souls 1 and Demon Souls feel pretty cheap in comparison. Lots of simple percussion and one man or woman wailing. I always wondered what sound of music tracks Sakuraba would produce with more budget.
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I can't beat radahn with this setup.
He nukes me completely.
Is there anything I can do even better?
I have all the skibidi fragments.
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>>489356556
Ironic shitposting is still shitposting

Fuck off
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>>489356641
Can you dodge roll?
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Fighting Consort Radahn and Malenia back to back was a bad idea
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>>489355075
Open-world was a mistake.

We will return to tradition. Return to interconnected levels.
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>>489355549
I turn off music when not fighting a boss, it is a huge improvement, you should try it.
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>>489356768
Melania is way too hard, she can't be shield poked.
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>>489356630
DS1 was already plentiful. It's about balancing anon. More is paradoxically often just less overall.
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>>489356641
Soreseal stops being worth it at ~36-37 VIG. Besides that the best strategy is to get a thrusting sword and try you best to stay at his left so you can avoid the double slash. Which attacks are giving you most trouble?
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>>489356556
Now you're thinking like a redditor.
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>>489356629
The Ringed City had a very hopeful ending all things considered, Gael basically saved the day
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>>489356629
End of Fire feels hopeful. "Tiny flames will flicker across the darkness" and all that.
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>>489355549
Bloodborne had the best soundtrack.
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>>489356641
theres nothing this retard gives thats pvp relevant
i dont understand what your deal is
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>>489355549
I agree; the only memorable non-boss song is the merchant's lute melody in the Frenzied Flame proscription
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M62pYatbyHo
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>>489356738
yeah but I fall down

>>489356903
I'm at 36 and I have a trusting sword

>>489357280
he has the two meteor swords
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>>489357429
theyre garbage you retard
especially at that level
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>>489355549
metyr theme is the only one I noticed in base game or dlc
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In serious need of a Miquella/Leda mommy shota doujinshi rn
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>>489357609
seriously garbage at +6 where I'll stop?
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>>489352753
You're telling me I gotta play unlocked like Dragon's Dogma?
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>>489350262
At 200 you can do something like this
Morgott's, obsidian lamina, bleed milady, reduvia, sleep ripple
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>>489358042
It gives you more control over your movement. It's also hard as balls to pull off.
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I honestly don't remember any souls game's music aside from Biggie & Small's theme, Artorias's theme and Gwyn's theme.
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>>489350262
>>489358083
absolutely atrocious stat distribution
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>>489352753
Are you using action repeat at the end?
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>>489357927
they have a horrible moveset, horrible requirements and the l2 damage scales with int
youre not very smart are you?
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>>489352753
Uhhh you guys usually play locked on? The camera is fucking terrible lmao. I play with a controller and I still don’t lock on unless I’m using ranges stuff a lot… Wut?
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>>489354251
>It's shit on purpose
>And that's a good thing
>Here's why
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>>489358426
I'm all ears. Give me your shot at RL200 bleed build with max cast speed and morgott's/blood milady.
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>>489358435
>action repeat
What?
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>>489345992
>though the path be broken and uncertain, claim your place as Elden Lord!
Reminder she wrote the message to encourage (you) before she died...
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>>489354956
The whole of soulsborne is just Miyazaki's suicide letter.
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Miquella should have an alternate win condition where you NTR Radahn away from him
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>>489355075
That's not true at all, at least in Odyssey.
Plus Odyssey had the major benefit of getting to explore a Mythology-ized version of ancient Greece which was fucking awesome
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>>489356807
open world is great the problem here is that 90% of the loot is worthless garbage instead of something cool or useful
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Behold, the song of the Greater Will:

https://youtu.be/RL25kplyilM
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Why is the dlc called shadow of the erdtree when the scadutree isn't even relevant in the story?
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>>489359172
They actually used this in game for Metyr.
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>>489359172
Zomg that's literally metyr's phase 2 OST how did fromsoftware know that I heckin' love Science??
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>>489356641
Swallow your pridge and parry him 100% easier like gwyn
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I give up bros. How do you access this area in ruah?
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>>489359265
why is messmer the centerpiece of all the trailers but hes just some fag brooding in a room
they needed marketing material because they knew it wouldnt sell on homosex
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Ymir's hat references 'the greater will's endless abyss'. What does this mean?
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>>489359351
>>489359353
>>489359172
It makes sense considering the Greater Will takes the form of a sentient black hole.
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>>489359172
no one but me figured this out but this is metyrs song
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>>489359489
hidden lift after a horse platforming section
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>>489356629
>the only ending with any kind of interesting is literally the reddit-tier atheist ending where a woman (see: mentally ill american girl doll) abuses you the whole time
>mfw

>>489354956
This whole questline is absolutely pants on head retarded. The entire thing is a glorified fetch quest, specifically involving much more interesting sorcerers than Sellen who literally do nothing.
Then there's like three back and forths, and all of a sudden this bitch has access to the Carian inner chambers. Jerren, who has never once mentioned a SPIT of dialogue about Caria (only off handedly mentioned by Iji) thinks this retard broad is somehow Carias biggest threat. Not the giant dragons, not the demigods, not Ranni. This dumb fuck who literally "IM PICKLE RICK"s herself.
And the culmination of the questline is this invasion thing that is completely ass backwards in terms of rewards.
Fucking miyazaki.
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>>489359523
*lightless abyss
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>>489359490
He is literally everywhere in the DLC you retard
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>>489328116
>uses the trailer OST
>0 info outside of rememberance
she's a babe tho. I don't understand how they fumbled this DLC so hard
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Does this sound viable for PvP?
Dragon Priestess Stone Form (buffs dragon cult spells, naturally light rolling)

20 Dex (for cast speed and gavel) / 40 Faith / 60 Arc

Flower Gavel
Dragon Communion Seal

Dragon Cult AND Dragon Communion incantations

Seems to get very good incant scaling
The stone effect should make up for not using the Dragon Cult seal
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>>489358083
>>489358565
NTA but the stat distribution looks good to me. Only question I have is why use the Crimson Amber talisman instead of a damage resist one like Dragoncrest Greatshield?
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>>489359684
removing him from this "story" doesnt change a fucking thing
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>>489359523
black hole
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>>489359761
there's a dragon cult seal?
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>>489358426
>>489358565

I'm not 200 I'm 113. Idc cast speed I only use FBA occasionally and I don't ever use morgotts
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>>489359653
where does the horse part start?
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>>489359529
The greater will is whatever miyazaki wants it to be, it could be a space squirrel for all we know
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>>489359097
Filling an entire world with cool and useful things is a very tall order.
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>>489359967
yes, gravel stone seal
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You can't just post Artoria and try to pass it off as Leda
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I don't even know why I keep going
I dont even use the mods to have free mats so I farm for Preserving Boluses and pots like a retard
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>>489356807
I don't know why is a chore to explore in elden ring but I enjoy every bit of walking I do in skyrim
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>>489360049
oh yeah, gravel stone is dragon stuff
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>>489359957
the GW is a star and the heavier stars become black holes when they die
that's why the GW stopped communicating with Metyr. it just reached the end of its lifecycle
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i think it would be cool if getting charmed by Miquella played an alternate ending before respawning back at grace, so people would still get some sort of miquella related ending. Kinda like accepting the Dragon's bargaing in Dragons dogma
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>>489360258
because there's nothing to do in ER except combat
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>>489360379
Why is the greater will's sin creating all life according to the frenzied flame, how is a black hole capable to that?
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>>489360258
because Skyrim is a first person game and unlike Elden Ring, Skyrim is an actual RPG
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>>489359490
I can't get over this. Messmer is retarded and no amount of homo fanboying will change that.

>has a massive, loyal army that is insanely strong, deadly, and doesn't need Grace in order to absolutely shitcan a huge region of dangerous hornsent
>They all wield fire, the antithesis to the erd tree
>Messmer himself is one of the top demigods, still in his best fighting shape compared to the others who are all shells
>Has a massive storehouse full of information on likely all manner of subjects
>Instead of doing LITERALLY ANYTHING: returning to TLB, getting a hold of Michael, trying to become a god himself, creating a new kingdom: he sits on his fucking ass
>the justification for this is 'he's so sad ):'
Negro give me a fucking break. Every single demigod, EVERY single one has been shown to be ambitious and opportunistic but of course this fucking dude isn't because of a dogshit plot reason FUCK. Gay ass dlc.
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>>489360418
should have been a choice like gehrman but theyre too lazy and too many rewrites
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>>489360519
>big bang
>become star
>get old
>become blackhole
>get real dense
>big bang
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>>489356730
never, shitposting is eternal
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>>489359917
Dragoncrest is massively nerfed in pvp. Feel free to swap out if you do pve. Although with the amount of spell bullshit flying around DLC i'm not sure dragoncrest is even good.
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>>489360519
>how is a black hole capable to that?
It created life when it was still a star, not when it collapsed into a black hole.
In a less literal sense, life on earth wouldn't exist without a star (the sun).
Contrary to popular belief the Greater Will is not the origin of everything that exists (that's the One Great, akin to the big bang).
The Great Will is just responsible for turning that energy (originating from the One Great) into life.
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>>489360589
also his voice actor speaks into an absolutely blown-the-fuck-out microphone and it annoys me a great deal that this wasn't caught in pre-production
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They're very cute.
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>>489361156
Probably yet another last minute addition. The voice actor for Messmer in the trailer was a different guy.
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>>489360005
there's 3 games full of items that were not included in er even though some were would rather get some random ds2 armor than my millionth mushroom after doing some random platforming to reach a corpse with a shiny thing
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I think if you removed the post-slash AOEs on most of his regular attacks, Radahn's second phase would be decent to fight. I'd honestly rather if they just gave him a 25% speed boost to all of his actions than those shitty light AOEs.
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>>489360258
Really? I find exploration in Skyrim to be very boring. Leveled loot, aggressive copy-pasting (more so than Elden Ring), lack of enemy variety (all melee enemies, from bandits to sabertigers, have the same behavior), and purposefully bland writing makes it a real chore.
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>>489361484
Are you seriously implying they should have reused even more DaS1-3 assets?

You may as well advocate for Souls games to become an annual thing like sports games at that point.
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>>489361789
beats looting crafting materials that i wi never use
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>>489361938
>this dogshit solution is better than this other dogshit solution
I hope the next game is a live service where loot refreshes ever season and new shit gets added with battle passes. Seems perfect for dipshits like you.
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>>489355549
The ambient tracks in the dlc are really good and the beginning of the Limgrave theme will forever be ingrained in my head
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>>489352912
I made it through tower settlement now on to the castle. It only took 10 minutes to get summoned but I'm worried it's going to get longer and longer with how spread out the summoning pools get.
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I just got radahn to 10% while the host hid in the corner the whole fight, how do you find your recent played I wanna talk shit to the retard
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>>489361789
>You may as well advocate for Souls games to become an annual thing like sports games at that point.
It kinda was at one point. If you count DLCs and re-releases, there was a release every year from 2011-2018 (2019 if you count Sekiro).
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>Have a mechanic that allows players to avoid some of the damage done by grabs
>>Every grab has a health value
>>By mashing L1/L2, you can reduce this value
>>When it hits 0, the player escapes
>Implement unique animations for breaking or escaping many grabs
>Set grab health far too high for the majority of these grabs, making escaping them impossible and these animations unused

Why is FROM like this? Is there a lore explanation?
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>>489360258
Out of all soulsborne this is the weakest of them to replay for me, there are like what 4 intricately designed dungeons
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>>489362492
He didn't even spam spells/ranged or anything?
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>>489360489
Yeah, would have been nice to get a few more friendly towns and quests to do in them.
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>>489361775
Skyrim kind of sucks but as a walking simulator it is superior to Elden Ring and idk how anyone could deny that.
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Does anyone have a guide on how to get glorious merchant or some other better way to get all the items but on steam deck? Don’t have access to a desktop… tired of all these low level invaders molesting me with great katanas.
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>>489362894
nope, way too far away for that
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The nomad merchants deserved it.
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>>489361775
You're right on that but the walking through the open world doesn't really empty.
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>>489363014
Can you not use the save data from PC on a steam deck?
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>>489363014
make a shopping list and summon me Ill drop you some toys
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>>489361938
>beats looting crafting materials that i wi never use
Your problem is that you want all the items to be potentially useful for your build which just isn't a reasonable thing to ask for in a rpg. People shit on the loot in the game being a ton of random shit but it is exactly because there is a ton of random shit that the game has so much build variety. Crafting mat pickups can be more useful than weapon pickups for builds that focus on that kind of stuff
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>>489362738
The explanation is:
>u rike???
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>>489355549
I was just thinking this while running through the DLC again. All the music in the legacy dungeons and while exploring is just so boring desu
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>>489362492
Shift tab. Game Overview.
View Players
View Recent players.
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>>489361335
Miq is living the dream...
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>>489363006
Nah walking through Elden Ring's world actually feels like an epic adventure, walking through skyrim just feels like walking through copy pasted slop.
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>>489363268
He probably made a new character while on a trip and needs all the necessities to deal with brown people at low level.
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>>489363268
I uhhh dunno I’ll check thanks
!>>489363273
I appreciate it I got someone to drop me a fire knight sword and some armor but I wanna know how to do it myself, also I’m at work rn gonna be home in a couple hours.
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Fun Bosses:
Margit, the Fell Omen
Godrick the Grafted
Rennala, Queen of the Full Moon
Starscourge Radahn
Rykard, Lord of Blasphemy
Night Cavalry
Tree Sentinels
Ulcerated Tree Spirits
Erdtree Avatars
Commander O'Neil
Fallingstar Beast
Dragonkin Soldier (non-Lake of Rot)
Godfrey, First Elden Lord
Mohg, the Omen
Morgott, the Omen King
Commander Niall
Dragonlord Placidusax
Astel, Stars of Darkness
Ancestor Spirit
Mohg, Lord of Blood
Astel, Naturalborn of the Void
Godfrey, First Elden Lord (Hoarah Loux)
Sir Gideon Ofnir, the All-Knowing
Radagon of the Golden Order / Elden Beast
Rellana Twin Moon Knight
Golden Hippopotamus
Messmer the Impaler
Metyr, Mother of Fingers
Putrescent Knight
Bayle the Dread
Midra Lord of Frenzied Flame
Commander Gaius
Romina, Saint of the Bud

Not fun bosses:
Ancient Dragon Lansseax
Black Knife Assassin (invisible)
Magma Wyrm
Red Wolves
Deathbirds
Watchdogs
Mariners
Runebears
Royal Knight Loretta
Godskin Duo
Dragonkin Soldier (Lake of Rot)
Fire Giant
Maliketh, the Black Blade
Loretta, Knight of the Haligtree
Malenia, Blade of Miquella
Lichdragon Fortissax
Divine Beast Dancing Lion
Ancient Dragon Senessax

Beyond shit:
Promised Consort Radahn
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>>489364284
>Beyond shit:
>Promised Consort Radahn
Filtered. Stopped reading here.
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>>489363889
I'll give you that, but Skyrim's world feels a lot more like an actual world.
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>>489356630
>Demon Souls
>cheap
Adjudicator's theme (the real one) shits on pretty much every ER track. Even with the midi orchestration.
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>>489364984
Well shit nigga, the post ends there
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>>489363163
>>489363006
>>489360258
If we're going to use an example of a really good open world, you could look at Enderal. Tons of variety in biomes, high density of points of interests, unique locations and dungeons (with the main quest dungeons being the standouts), an unleveled world that will kick your ass if you go off the beaten path and are not prepared, and interesting writing. It still suffers with many of Skyrim's core flaws though, but it's a much better game overall.
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>>489359489
You can see the stone platforms circling around the edge of the cliff on the map, anon.
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>>489365018
The lands between isn't a "real world", it's an esoteric pseudo reality "dream state" kinda shit which is why its all made of senseless geography
It's the kind of "world" that Monolith would make a Xeno game and make it be on the left thigh of a titanic eldritch horror pseudogod
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>>489364284
You're just mad you got NTRed by Radahn.
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FCchads, I will be hosting a seamless FC in ~5 hours. Please begin preparing your anuses now so there are no surprises later
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>>489365317
It's not NTR if I had 0 interest on some twink faggot, specially since he already hit the wall
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Why is everyone seething so much about the game, it's like summer 2022.
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I am The Elden Lard
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>>489365838
/v/ legitimately honestly never recovered from the TORtanic high.
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>>489365879
Good job, fatty
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>>489364984
Beaten him twice, there is no defending that boss
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>>489365949
Gamergate and TORtanic ruined /v/.
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Who smells worse (better)?
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>>489365879
It feels really jarring to see a suitably sized throne made of wood in a game where everything is massively oversized and made of stone.
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>>489339191
Renallabros??? He's wrong, right?
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>>489366310
It's less about power and more about breaking the rules.
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>>489366272
only suitably sized because of how large and in charge I am
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>>489364284
>Fun Bosses:
>Bayle
>Mohg

>Not fun
>Black Knife Assassin (invisible)
>Loretta

wrong
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>>489366846
Bayle and Mohg are both hard but fair, don't confuse the two you shitter
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>>489364284
>gaius
>fun
troll list
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>>489366207
Malenia smells 100% worse

Romina has beautiful, pore-free skin and her centipede and scorpion halves are shiny and clean. She smells flowery and fragrant, if a bit earthy because... giant insects.

Malenia's BO and rot can be smelled LONG before you see her. She never fucking bathes. Ever,
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>>489367151
God thats hot
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Miliscent smells so strong she has visual effects so Malenia has to smell worse
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>>489367151
What does scarlet rot smells like? I feel like they both smell bad.
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>>489367050
are both boring because they fly across the room doing spectacle attacks, mohg double gay cause he leaves diarhea trails on the floor
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>>489367151
>She never fucking bathes. Ever
Really? I'd imagine she'd be bathing all the time to retard the rot's growth. Her and her master's sword style makes a lot of allusions to flowing water as well.
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Is the Ruins Greatsword good for anything other than clearing hordes of trash enemies? 16 int is quite the requirement for a strength build.
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>>489367050
Bayle has a ton of attacks where the the tells are so subtle as to be almost imperceptible. The camera is also shitting out, but that's nothing new for big and fast bosses.
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>>489367474
I imagine scarlet rot smells sickly sweet, like a pack of haribo gummy bears that have gone moldy.
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>>489367474
From how it develops into fungilike matter it can smell potentially like anything even rotting meat or sweet metallic like fungi IRL
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I like that the DLC revealed that the outer gods have many machinations going on at once.

>Romina as a willing embodiment of the rot
>an entire race that worships the formless mother complete with the exact same rituals as Mohg
>another agent of the frenzied flame, another failed lord plus the spine of yet another one
>the hornsent were shaping the crucible to their religious interpretations long before the Erdtree existed
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Has anyone tried to farm and cook this?
it's pretty delicious looking.

the crafting system in the dlc is really awesome, they seem to have fixed the way the open world works for powerups and consumables
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>>489367839
I just beat him yesterday and the camera didn't unlock once, even during his flying fire orb attack in phase 2 transition
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>>489367839
I agree with the camera, but Bayle's pretty decent I thought. There's so many opportunities to do a shitload of damage to his face.
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>OH! HELLO THERE, RACIST_ARYAN_INCEL1488!
>IT IS I, gayfurrypedotranny1995 THAT SHALL BE YOUR DUELLING PARTNER TODAY
>I HAVE DECIDED TO TAUNT YOU INTO OUR WORLD TO HAVE AN HONORABLE AND EPIC DUELLING SESSION WHILE WIFE'S TWO BOYFRIENDS SPECTATE US!
>BEFORE WE BEGIN, I MUST ASK THAT YOU ENGAGE IN THIS ENCOUNTER HONORABLY AND REFUSE TO HEAL, AS PER THE RULES OF THE GAY TRANNY ATHEISTS NATIONAL CONVENTION OF AMERICA GUIDELINES CONCERNING TAUNTFAGGOT INVASION DUELS, WHICH CLEARLY OUTLINE THAT ONLY I MAY HEAL WHEN GETTING LOW, AND THAT YOU MAY NOT, UNDER ANY CIRCUMSTA-
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>>489367474

I like to think something like Caelid where the rot "consumes" smells actually rotten, but things that the rot "creates" (Malenia's flowers and butterflies, Romina's coherent animal aspects) smell sweet.
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>>489368243
it looks made of rock why would anybody wanna eat this
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Alright I've beaten the game 5 times now and I'm starting to get bored. Give me ALL of your weaponfus and I will decide what to play with next
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>>489368106
I mean yeah, if your plan is to rule an entire planet you'll probably have a few backup plans so you don't just fuck off when your one guy loses to a retard strength tarnished.
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>>489368243

Where DO you farm the new gravel things
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>>489368243
>the crafting system in the dlc is really awesome, they seem to have fixed the way the open world works for powerups and consumables
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Could any kindly intbros show me your general-purpose spell loadout for bosses? I'm up to Leyndell right now and I've tried various different combinations, but it seems that so far the best strategy has been to just use Greatblade Phalanx or Rock Sling from range, and just use my Magic Claymore in melee range. I'm more of a battlemage so I don't much focus on projectile spam.
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>>489368458
Why does literally no one ever use kick? It hard counters shieldfags.
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>>489368458

Never stop writing your greentexts anon, bless you.
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>>489368106
Are Midra and the failed lord the same person? Who are you referring to?
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>>489368564
Play with the pvp.
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>>489368740
>Could any kindly intbros show me your general-purpose spell loadout for bosses?
Terra Magicka, Comet Azur, congrats you beat every boss.
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>>489368458
Why is this shit so common? Hosts are really fucking scummy in this game for some reason
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>>489368564
wing of astel
fire knight greatsword
blasphemous blade
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>>489368887

Midra is the one, the other is whoever the frenzy lantern belonged to. Probably the previous sucker that got seduced by Nanaya.
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>>489368564
Helphen's Steeple
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>>489364284
Fun bosses:
>pre-patch rot crystalian trio
>invisible black knife
>perfumer & misbegotten
>watchdog & imps
>Tibia Mariner
>O'Neill
>Lamenter
>Jori
>Godrick
>Rennala
>Rykard
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>>489368956
Coward weapons
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>>489368564
Carian Thrusting Shield
Bloody Helice
Stone Club
Beastman's Curved Sword
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>>489369181
>jori
good fucking joke
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>>489364284
>>489369181
The best boss in the entire game is that one Dragonkin Soldier in Lake of Rot
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>>489367096
he's fine after they fixed his hitboxes
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>>489369374
fuck you
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>>489369374
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>>489369117
Why is the frenzied flame even picky as fuck on its hosts.
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>>489368740

I heavily encourage making a theme for your wizard. It's all magic damage so the meta mindset will just leave you with muh glintstone pebble and rock sling. So, pick a school like Caria, Death or Gravity and roll with it, and fill the gaps with indispensable things that, probably, any sorcerer would acquire on their way of learning, such as the basic Raya Lucaria stuff (like Terra Magica and the Gavel).
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>>489369181
fascinating how you listed almost all the most gimmicky tedious bosses in the game right here, top tier troll list
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>>489369374
What's the 2nd? the ulcerated spirit in the lake of rot?
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>>489369148
deaths poker is better because it shoots stuff far away
steeple is only close range

then again why are greatswords all L2 sticks?
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>>489369657
Steeple looks cooler
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>>489369640
You mean the ulcerated spirit in elphael? Yeah, that one.
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>>489369736
it does look cool
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>>489369628
Adventure game concept fights > DMC-lite tryhard edge 1v1 clown shit
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>>489354285
I remember people thinking Hornsent had worms and was a death blight dude
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>>489350093
>the Putrescent Knight is a repurposed GEQ Knight model according to the file names
Stop spreading this lie, the Putrescent Knight is the GEQ Knight in game
>>489354285
>I think Death in general had more upfront importance in the DLC at one point.
There was no time to repurpose anything at any point
>people thought the Scadutree was Deathblight related because it was a black and gold tree
No, it was amber like it is now and like the Scadutree in the original promotional art is
>And then you have the Putrescent Knight originally being intended to be tied to GEQ
It's still tied to the GEQ, the GEQ made artificial lifeforms to serve her, and those lifeforms decay into Putrescence. The Putrescent Knight looks like silver exactly like mimic tears.
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>>489368730
the skibidi system is amazing once you realize that you can collect 41 without beating more than the dragonman.
the consumables are so OP in the dlc

>>489368640
those slimes in jagged peak
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>>489370078
>the skibidi system is amazing once you realize you're running around like an idiot collecting trinkets that only exist to make you run around like an idiot collecting them
Indeed.
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>>489367474
Probably vape juice lmao
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>>489368640
Cheat Engine
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What was radagon's intent when he gave rennala an amber with a great rune in it?
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>>489354285

My only two complaints about the DLC story are the fact Radahn as the final boss is a character that was already heavily featured in the base game in both story and gameplay (unlike someone out of left field like Gael), and that there's basically nothing about the Scadutree, I'm still not fully sure what the fucking point of it is. The shaman village next door is much more significant.
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>>489368763
Because kick being stuck to an Ash fucking sucks. I have no idea why they didn't just keep it like normal.
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>beat the game with Strength
>beat the game with Strength/Faith
>beat the game with Bleed
don't make me do dex/int...
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>>489370196
you'll deal 1.97x damage once you're done riding your horse.
Its like you don't like exploration. I get you its ok. Its not fun when you don't know where they are
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>>489368564
shortbow only
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>The Rakshasa samurai was a stronk womynx all along
Jesus
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>>489370461
So just don't do it? You don't have to play the builds you don't want to.
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>>489370397
Because it fucking sucked to pull off and even more to accidentally do, just switch to nothing or put shield bash
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>>489370397
But it's not tied to an ash, it's the WA for holding nothing. Softswap, kick, softswap, crit. EZ
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>>489370587
What am I going to do, play the game the same style AGAIN? 80 hours of doing the same shit all over?
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I have my own head canon about godwyn
His soul didn't die his soul probably left the world as would be natural before the erdtree reincarnation thing.
Destined death doesn't kill souls only the frenzied flame is capable of doing that.
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>>489370397
bro ur free weapon slot?
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>>489370461
>>beat the game with Strength
Okay so you did it with the greatsword and heavy fire infusion
>>beat the game with Strength/Faith
Okay so you did it with the greatsword and heavy sacred/flame infusion
>>beat the game with Bleed
Okay so you did it with the greatsword and bleed infusion
>don't make me do dex/int..
ok
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>>489370478
>1.97x damage
Yeah because From padded out the DLC by not giving bosses normal HP and attack power. If people beat them too fast, they'd realise there was barely any actual fucking game in this video game expansion.
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>>489370559

I could have saved her.
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>>489353123
Get your meds
>>489354285
Schizo bullshit by salty losers mad their headcanon isn't true. Nothing in the DLC was cut
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>>489370478
You know what isn't fun? Getting to Radahn with 49 fragments, going station to station with a video guide and still ending up with 49 somehow after an hour
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>>489365838
I'm disappointed, I was expecting the peak of souls formula and I got more Elden Ring with all its highlights and flaws hyper condensed into a dlc. There's some high highs but some truly abysmal lows, still good overall but nowhere near as good as it was hyped to be or should've been. Also the whole DLC feels really unpolished and paced very strangely. Lorewise the Miquella plot is without a doubt the absolute worst shit they have ever written and it's not even close, if the finale of the game wasn't putrid shit I'd probably be a lot more favorable
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>>489370682
you can do other things, or are you that autistic?
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>>489370559
:)
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>>489370397
>free action that can guard break a maxed out greatshield with talisman buffs and shield grease
In hindsight how do you even balance this?
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>>489370810
Wrong on all counts, would you like another go?
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>>489370592
>sucked to pull off
It was fucking simple as shit. There was no difficulty and it only happened accidentally if you're SHIT.
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>>489370369
>My only two complaints about the DLC story are the fact Radahn as the final boss is a character that was already heavily featured in the base game in both story
Radahn had no story beyond Sellia, the pivotal point of the marketing, the Battle of Aeonia, which represents the Shattering, was left completely unexplored until the DLC
>and that there's basically nothing about the Scadutree, I'm still not fully sure what the fucking point of it is.
Because you didn't pay attention.The Scadutree is where the souls of things without grace go since Marika established Gold and Shadow
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>>489370930
Taurus is the only winner here
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>>489370870
I've come to love my disappointment. For me, Elden Ring is more of a concept existing in my head than a game at this point.
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>>489370810
why would someone use a greatsword for a bleed build?
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>>489371243
what has happened twice has surely happened thrice (using the strength weapon)
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>>489367050
Bayle is the worst boss in Elden Ring
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>>489371032
It's meant to be like that though. It was slow enough in DS3 where if you saw them going for a kick you could reliably roll.
It mainly only helped if you were fighting idiots who refuse to stop blocking. Also helped with parry spammers throwing out a kick on a parry which would drain 100% of there stamina allowing for 2-4 hits.
It was such a fun mechanic to play around in PVP.
It wasn't even OP either...
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>>489370919
There isn't a single game on the market or in my backlog I am interested in. Elden Ring is my only salvation
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>>489370682
I don't know, play dex/fth or pure int then. Even if you replayed str, it has so many weapons to pick from that you could have numerous completely different playstyles no matter what you choose. You could powerstance Blood-infused Beastman's Curved Swords and pretend you're a dex build.
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>>489370930
Omg xisters this is such a libra thing to post
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>>489365838
I expected more and ended up disappointed.
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>>489370810
>heavy fire infusion
>heavy sacred/flame infusion
pretty sure you can't double up on infusions there bud?
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>>489371406
yeah builds don't matter for those weapons that weigh less than 5 pounds. They can be used on any build

>>489365838
Because I played it and its over.
The first time I was disappointed was when riding my horse over the finger ruins that HAD NOTHING in them
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>>489370682
play other games, elden ring isn't that good to begin with
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>>489370738
>>489370631
>softswap against a guy with half a brain
>he just stops blocking and spams R1
>you've now just wasted time and ate several attacks
>because of this you also can't have a light weapon in your offhand for BHS escapes
It's shit having to softswap just to perform a kick. It's a complete downgrade from DS3 in every way.
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>>489370870
>and flaws
I can't believe I can't roll and attack bosses in neutral!!!
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>>489371240
>Elden Ring is more of a concept existing in my head than a game at this point.
Sad but also terrifyingly accurate.
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>>489365838
I'm legitimately disappointed with the DLC but my criticism either get dismissed by slop eater cultists or shitposters who have no fucking idea of what the fuck they're talking about
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>>489370870

I wanted more Elden Ring and I got it, I'm only kinda upset about the final boss.
I'm actually kinda lukewarm on all From DLCs because IMO all of them tread into unreasonable difficulty compared to their base game.
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Snake with bedroom eyes.
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>>489370870
It all comes back to the open world not fitting the formula and only amplifying FromSoftware's inability to cleanly execute concepts and their unwillingness to acknowledge criticism
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>>489365838
Souls trilogy niggers mad then can't freely rollpoke through attacks with their "Guts" build and have an easy time.
Also niggerfaggots like >>489371605 that wanted every piece of the area to be filled with boss repeats instead of the kino and massive improvement we got with more dense areas
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What are you guys playing now the dust has settled, and the game is so dead that you can never get summoned for putrescent knight ever again?
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>>489371958
Nothing
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>>489371958
Elden Ring.
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>>489370870
>Lorewise the Miquella plot is without a doubt the absolute worst shit they have ever written and it's not even close, if the finale of the game wasn't putrid shit I'd probably be a lot more favorable
Would the DLC have been better if it had been about actually working with Miquella like the trailers implied? Who'd have been the main antagonist then?
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>>489371625
I've done this a hundred times against shield pokers and it's always the same result, a riposte. Maybe you're just retarded?
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>>489371958

Actually I'm getting insane amounts of coop activity at level 200+
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>>489371883
>open world not fitting the formula
It fits like a glove because of the actual narrative and enviromental direction and how the world is filled with dungeons compared to the usual open world with "open world missions"
>and only amplifying FromSoftware's inability to cleanly execute concepts and their unwillingness to acknowledge criticism
It's hilarious how the typical open world normie cattle is mad Leyndell isn't a b9ring bloated shitty hub town
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How does seamless coop actually work? Can you get summons people to help you clear a boss better than the vanilla summon? I just wanna help put other beat the bosses.
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>>489371605
>yeah builds don't matter for those weapons that weigh less than 5 pounds. They can be used on any build
My point was that STR has so much weapon variety that it even has an option for powerstanced curved swords (which are normally attributed to dex and arc), since beastman's curved sword scales best with STR.
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>>489371958
twow
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>>489372169

Literally anyone. No one ever saw the true DLC final bosses coming (Manus, Orphan, Gael), it's always a literal who and that was better than "here's this guy again".
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>>489371945
>wanted every piece of the area to be filled with boss repeats instead of the kino and massive improvement we got with more dense areas
oh no how dare people have legitemate complaints about the DLC! You must DEFEND it at all costs!
Fact is that Cerulean Coast, the Finger Ruins, Jagged Peak, Abyssal Woods, and Ancient Ruins of Rauh are all empty as fuck. That is over half the map with pretty much NOTHING in it. I don't know what the fuck you mean by "massive improvement" unless you mean nothing to do but ride your fucking horse around
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>>489372170
>anyone with half a brain
There's your issue.
You're saying to soft swap and kick against the guy who's obviously a PVPer and has PVP'd for a substantial amount of time.
I seriously doubt it would work against that guy which is the main target that you need to deal with, everyone else doesn't matter.
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>>489372169
>Who'd have been the main antagonist then?
Messmer, with Metyr being the secret final boss whose been manipulating everything and who you could only fight by following some esoteric quest chain.
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someone's mad replying to every criticism post, uh oh
>>489372169
>who'd have been the main antagonist then?
i thought messmer with his fires would be an active threat searching and hunting you down over the map and the last boss being another space creature
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>>489372187
I'm at 150, should I go up to 170 so I can coop with 200?
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>>489371240
Honestly same. It feels so close to being an actual 10/10 like all the newfags and journalists claim but it really isn't. The lore is really interesting but only for a little bit before it just makes you go 'What?'
I know a ton of people who played all the souls games and not a single one of them ever puts ER at the top.

It's absolutely insane that Gwyn is still easily the best final boss in any of the games. (Havent played sekiro but hear isshin is good too). And by todays standards Gwyn would be like a moderately difficult regular ass NPC enemy in the wild.
I know people meme about them just trying to make it hard instead of good now, but like damn son. Nobody thought DaS or BB was good BECAUSE it was hard.
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>>489371958
Despite being fundamentally and highly flawed Elden Ring is one of the few games worth playing in the current state of vidya. The writing is on the wall that GTA6 is going to ironically flop and finally crash the industry with it with even Rockstar already damage controlling.
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>>489365278
>It's the kind of "world" that Monolith would make a Xeno game and make it be on the left thigh of a titanic eldritch horror pseudogod
This is a funny comparison since i felt a HUGE Monolith energy out of Rauh in particular
It's literally something straight out of a Xenoblade game
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>>489372169
>Who'd have been the main antagonist then?
A representative of the Dark Moon.
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>>489372416
Turns out Metyr is also some just depressed lonely fucker sitting in a hole doing nothing all day. GREAT WRITING
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>>489372483
Not that anon, but why not just make a backup of your save, move up to 170 or 200, or whatever, try it out for a day or 2 and then if you don't like it just revert the save?
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does killing messmer lock me out of quests?
i apparently fucked something up already by moving close to shadow keep
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>>489372776
because I don't do pvp but I like to stay at meta level anyway for activity
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Talking about the scooby snacks, I would understand if there had been a macguffin roundup for a specific boss like Messmer the same way you collect giant souls to hurt Vendrick and ONLY Vendrick. There's nothing satisfying or interesting about having the option to tryhard at 0 blessings against completely inconsequential bosses. The way From did it is bafflingly idiotic, you don't even have to fight anything to collect most of the fragments, if this is supposed to be a second power curve like leveling up in the main game it failed because in the main game you collect runes by killing enemies as in you're actually playing and engaging with the main gameplay mechanic.
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Finally home from the hospital I can play Elden Ring again
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>>489372528
>I know people meme about them just trying to make it hard instead of good now, but like damn son. Nobody thought DaS or BB was good BECAUSE it was hard.

Gonna repost this cause this is the normie approach towards FROM now:

>Reviewer:
>>>If you're somebody who has been active in the FROMsoft and Souls community, then you're probably aware of how the DLC has received mix reviews where a big portion of the negativity has stemmed from players saying it's too difficult. I personally don't see it that way and actually welcome the difficulty because this is what these games are all about.

>overlayed of a recording of his double flamberge bleed build summoning two phantoms, prebuffing, and then summoning the mimic when he crosses Rellana's fog wall
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>>489370930
>great katanas are cancer
Little on the nose innit?
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>>489372776
How does one make a backup of a save?
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>>489372528
Isshin is easily the best. Sekiro is also the best souls game.
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>>489372657
The hunters dream, ash lake, and the area summoned by elden beast are all the same location and I refuse to believe otherwise.
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>>489372778
Breaking the rune - aka getting too close to Shadow keep - aka exploring the fucking OPEN WORLD fucks up Moores quest, and Fortissax.
That's the only world trigger.

>>489372885
I remember someone posting this. It's sad, really, because it feels like From has drank from their own koolaid too.
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>>489372483

I basically never stopped levelling until I finished the DLC and I finished at level 210 or so. Since then I've been chilling in co-op and it's been super lively since the weekend, it only slowed down today. It's been an okay mix of dungeons and bosses, clearly mostly people making themed runs through NG+x and only one single invader baiting duelfag.
I always make it a point to give my character some immersion appeal, not xXxEldenSneed2009xXx, so that probably helps in getting summoned.
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It does feel like shit when you choose to only use the latest dlc weapons, spells and shields but they don't fit your build so you have to rely on shit
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>>489372979
Ctrl C.
Ctrl V.
Saves are in the appdata roaming folder.
Make sure you turn off Steamcloud. It can cause issues.
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>>489372169
>Would the DLC have been better if it had been about actually working with Miquella like the trailers implied?
Yes. We need a counterbalance, an inverse element to Ranni. Than the unital ring will be complete. We'll have left and right hand closure.
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I cant believe we got a whole "this guy is like one of the OG sorcerers he even taught the Carian princesses and shit he's been here since forever" character in the DLC and there's just zero information about the primeval current
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>>489371635
>immediately jumps to gitgudder slop
My main complaint is the emptiness of the map, reused enemies out the ass, and unrewarding exploration. With the appropriate amount of skibidi's (which is a bad system in itself just do normal level scaling) every boss but Radahn is totally fine.
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What items pre-dlc are there are connects miquella and radahn?
Pic related have some miquella and godwyn connection
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>>489373049
It would be absolutely based if all the space creatures were present across all the universes via meta magic
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>>489373115
>breaking the rune messes up the Fortissax quest
huh?
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>>489372340
you're right for bleed but bandits is better on the fire infusion unfortunately
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>>489373315
>"this guy is like one of the OG and shit he's been here since forever" character in the DLC and there's just zero information about (anything else)
thats all of them bro
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>Post complaining about something related to game design, not combat
>Immediate reply basically saying "you're just mad because the game was too hard for you" in different wordings
Why is this so common? I've seen this exact interaction play out at least thrice a thread, every thread, every day for the past month or so
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>>489373427
Sorry Florissax. If you break the rune, Thiollier and Moore leave their original spots. So you can't get the syrup to get her spell and ash
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>>489373595
I would say they forgot Elden Ring is an adventure game, but on the other hand From seems to have forgotten it as well.
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>>489372169
Literally anyone would've been better and I do mean that without hyperbole.
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y tho?
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>>489373726
Nah brah, after the rune breaks you go talk to them at their original spots and they say shit like "oh did you feel that? I'm going to go somewhere else" and you can still buy shit from them before they leave
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The one thing the DLC did right was fleshing out Marika's background and giving us pretty much the whole reason she started the Golden Order and why she was so obsessed with removing death from the cycle of life.

Probably the best character From has ever written, but maybe it could be because George wrote her instead of Hackazaki.

Her being canonically a slut is hilarious yet somehow endearing
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>>489373595
Literal newfags to the series who mistakenly thought the 'git gud' memes were serious and never realized it was just a troll ass PVP thing
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>>489373863
I *think* that's only if you've actually progressed their quest. In my current run, this happened
>meet Moore and the other guy at the Tower
>talk to Thiollier once, he just says some nonsense
>ran around, broke the rune
>came back, both gone, hadnt even cleared the Tower
Or there's some other trigger to but either way it bricked those things for me
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>>489373792
Her perfect baby godwyn got jumped
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>>489355348
He used his soul to create the spell. Basically some ash of war.
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what do fire and lightning infusions even do?
I'm looking at the damage charts and in many cases the fire infusion reduces strength scaling and the lightning infusion reduces dexterity scaling.

Aren't these supposed to be str and dex? It looks more like they're flat like the standard infusion. They change basically NOTHING. Its like standard, fire and lightning are the way raw, fire and lightning were in ds3
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>sellenfic updated
mandate of heaven restored
>sellen x seluvis
mandate of heaven lost
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>>489374241
>sellenfic updated
X to doubt
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Marika sucks misbegotten dicks behind the Leyndell palace.
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>>489373315
The primeval current is just the big bang.
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gg ez

She utterly raped my face. I don't really feel like I beat her. It feels more like it was a stroke of luck rather than skill. I with the full fight was like her second phase.
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>>489374241
>sellen x seluvis
Is there a cosmic rule saying every writefag erg gets has to have dogshit taste?
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>>489357280
he gatekeeps Ansbach's stuff tho
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Are there level 100 hosts in the dlc?
or is it too low? Honestly why do people have to level so much? Why isn't a perfect 100 okay?
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>>489333153
They're actually based self-actualizing sigmas who realized that wealth and mortal glory are ephemeral and instead dedicated themselves to a strict martial and dietary regimen for the sake of attaining superpowers by their own efforts rather than by erdtree handouts. Most other bosses look like lazy bums in comparison.
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I'm thinking of raising my stats so I can use the Godslayer's Greatsword, even though I barely touched any big swords my whole playthrough, just so I have a weapon I can use my somber stones on. Is that a bad idea?
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>>489374372
>I with the full fight
wish*
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>>489373792

>Grow up in a village surrounded by friends and family
>They all get routinely kidnapped and tortured and stuffed in pots
>They never come back, your family gets killed off little by little
>One day it happens to you
>Somehow you survive the process and can now wield the power of a God
>Decide to create the Golden Order and remove death from the cycle so that no one has to suffer like you did
>Make everyone suffer because you're more emotion than brains and "the end justifies the means"
>You've almost made it, all lands are now under your control, your son Godwyn is a healthy lad loved by its people, you're finally happy
>her son Godwyn is murdered in cold blood and has his soul permanently erased from the cycle of death, in no way can he ever come back

The medical term is "She fucking lost it"
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>>489374084
It's alright, that questline is up there for the most pointless and convoluted in the entire game. You only missed out on an objectively worse version of Golden Vow and a shit Ash summon
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>>489373115
its fine if you didnt do your research you are supposed to be punished for it by missing out on content. this game isnt a walk in the park like the witcher 3 or other lame easy games. man up and git gud.
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>>489357280
ansbach's furious blade

>>489374545
everyone needs 15 faith as a melee build especially as a str build because all the clawmark spells require 15 or lower faith and the clawmark seal is best for str.
So get 15 faith to start and make up the remainder with a talisman or grafted blade greatsword L2 buff. Just to try the sword
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>>489333349
I only fought one Apostle so far (the one at the bottom of the Caelid Divine Tower) and I confess that I didn't do it fairly. I mixed up posture damage with a club and bleed procs with a knife while Latenna +7 opened fire from the door.
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>>489374854
>I mixed up posture damage with a club and bleed procs with a knife while Latenna +7 opened fire from the door.
looks like a regular strat to me
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>>489374454
having 60 vigor doesn't leave a whole lot left if you're only level 100. Even defeating Mohg is 80-120
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>>489374384
Which ones do we even have?
>Sellen longfic
>Miquella spanking
>Dragon scalie
I think I'm missing 1 or 2
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Offhand swift spear FUCKS with Milady in main hand
Slap cragblade against higher poise targets too
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>>489374971
Would you believe that over upgraded my weapons? (+14 for the club, +6 for the knife).
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>>489374805
...unless you aren't using clawmark spells as a melee build?
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>>489375220
you're not gonna use buffs either?
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>>489374594
You forgot that she must have realized at some point that she got scammed by the fingers, likely when she was trying to delve deeper in understanding the Golden Order

People try to parallel Miquella and Marika's stories but Marika's is 100 times more compelling and emotional than what they tried to do with Miquella which is insane considering how tragic and emotional his base game lore was before the DLC butchered it
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>>489373115
Anon is complaining about a staple fromsoft model like he stumbled upon it for the first time in his life. What?
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>>489375092
did that caster have 800 hp? lol
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So what now? Just pump vig to 60 like everyone else does?
I don't really feel like I need more right now, though.
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>>489374241
i imagine it's just her backstory? never read it though
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>>489375415
Shitter casters at low levels are squishy, he clearly pumped all into int judging by the damage he did to my 2.4k hp character
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>>489375415
unexperienced casters tend to do undermine vigor
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>>489375292
The only buffs I require are weapon greases and boiled crab
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>>489373726
>>489373115
YOU DON'T WANT TO GIVE HER THE SYRUP, SHE DROPS A WEAPON WITH THE SKILL IN IT AND THE DRAGONCULT HEART IF YOU DON'T GIVE HER THE SYRUP.
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>Man I'm starting to get tired of FromSoft always doing X in their games every time, it's becoming really repetit-
>"Lmao what is this your first time encountering X? Baby's first FromSoft game huh?"
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>>489371635
>can't attack bosses in neutral
Yes. Fuck this shit. I want more opportunities to be proactive, instead of being too afraid to attack first or sneak in a quick poke while the boss isn't actively doing anything, because they can input read me at any moment and retaliate immediately. It's not "neutral" if I'm playing on the back foot from the moment I enter the arena.
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>>489375621
only thing bad is failing moores quest because you lose cookbooks. The other things are pretty much unimportant. Just buy everything from thollier.

They punish you for giving NPCs the syrup and the iris of grace. They reward you for taking away all the hope by giving them the iris of occultation and not giving the syrup
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>>489375420
>quality faith build
>everything at an even number
>40 vigor
your autism is showing
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>>489375621
I miss godskinposting
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>>489372393
It's not legitinste criticism, it's retardation
>le empty
Wrong, but you won't stop down to fight fillers. It builds actual scale/scope using faster mobility to cruch space, but also create an interesting and and more dense world design in other parts, made of interwoven vertical structures and hidden dungeons.
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>>489375614
if you're going to level faith at all, 15 is a good stopping point though before going further

>>489375420
HOLY SHIT STOP LEVELING. rEVERT A SAVEGAME TO WHEN YOU HAD 175 OR SOMETHING.
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>>489375751
You’re supposed to be on your backgeet the whole time. Your character is purposefully clumsy and bad at fighting while his enemies are legends out of myth. It’s like a regular Joe Schmo trying to beat up Hercules.
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>>489375852
You're complaining about fillers and yet Cerulean Coast has nothing BUT fillers in it. Fact is that some areas are in line with the rest of the base game in terms of density, and others I listed are not just lacking but COMPLETELY DEVOID of anything and are blatantly unfinished. Keep blindly defending it, I'm sure Miyazaki will pop in here and thank you for it some day
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>>489375620

Counterpoint: dragon wife
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>>489376073
Fuck off with this dogshit headcanon already
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>>489373245
Wanted to know if /erg/ wanted to make a VGL team with /fsg/ for the upcoming /vg/ league 23, where various /vg/ generals make soccer teams based on their generals/games and play sportsball with each other. /dsg/ won the first one like over ten years ago so I figured I'd see if /erg/ or /fsg/ wanted to play.

If you want a video of what the event looks like, click through this, the most recent Finals for the VGL 22 - https://implying.fun/video/vgl22/2024-06-30/
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>>489376215
At least the Cerulean Coast is very pretty and atmospheric.
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>>489376253
your character transforms into her if you use the heart
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their kind, one of a piece
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>>489376258
Not headcanon. Just comparing the way your character fights and moves against the bosses. It’s like your character is stuck in a low fantasy setting while his enemies are all fantasy anime characters.
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>>489376362
Don't forget the gloveworts!
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>>489376215

NTA but personally, in both base game and DLC, I like some emptier areas, both to convey a sense of scale to the world and as gameplay downtime. In the coast it works as a serene area, and the finger ruins and abyssal woods are both spooky setpieces where you're meant to dodge the worms' stun spell or the winter lanterns.
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>>489376596
Okay retard
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>>489376563
HOW DO YOU KNOW WHAT LEVEL HE IS AND WHAT THE PING IS?
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When should I start cashing in all these dragon hearts I keep stockpiling?
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>>489376732
It's a seamless invasion
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>>489375319
No, a staple from Fromsoft games is killing bosses in their previously linear titles that will progress major current events in the game and this also progress NPCs. Literally just walking around without killing a single boss and getting punished for it is not a 'staple' you newfag fuck
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>>489376814
you can just cheat in seamless
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Ok so i just finished the dlc, I didnt read any item descriptions or watch any videos about the lore or anything i just played it through and this is my interpretation:

Needle knight Leda is a woman with a vagina but she is cursed with a pegging fetish born from intense penis envy. Leda desires to peg a twink and decides to aim high in her goal by entering the lands of shadow In search of the cutest and most famous twink in legend, Miquella the kind. She invites the tarnished along with her because she thinks having some witnesses present for when she takes miquellas anal virginity would be hot, like its a power thing, she wants to show off and such. However, upon reaching the end of big floating castle area Leda is faced with the realization that Miquellas butt has already been buckbroken into a feminine bussy by his consort Rhadahn. This of course angers Leda, who lashes out on the tarnished in response. Also I killed Miquella because a purple thing told me to and purple is my favorite color.
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>>489376719
How does not having anything to do convey a sense of scale? You can get the same sense WITH dungeons interspersed
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>>489376906
So?
We've dealt with cheaters for 15 years. I'd rather have an occasional cheater than dogshit latency.
Like, playing on vanilla is straight painful after seamless
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Whats the best spirit ash to carry me through SL1?
Is it lhutel? Getting to tiche is too difficult without an ash.
I don't even know why i do this challenge when SL1 is not an active level range.
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>Marika is a numen
>Numens aren't native to the land
>Numen built the eternal cities
>Shaman villager turns into jarpeople
So are the jarpeople the hornsent's attempt to make a god like the eternal city silver tear?
But I still don't understand what is up with the gate of divinity.
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>>489377117
Oleg
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>>489370831
>If people beat them too fast, they'd realise there was barely any actual fucking game in this video game expansion.
Yeah, I don't really understand all the people who say there's "so much content" when in reality, it's just a convoluted map that just takes too long to get around on with very little in it. Hell, 80% of the actual content in the DLC is just in Shadow Keep.
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>>489376719
>and as gameplay downtime
it actually ads time to my gameplay because I explore that empty land and waste my time to avoid missing out.
In the end I just look up whats in the area on the wikis to avoid wasting time.

>>489377117
depraved perfumer Carmaan, he's just lying there for free in volcano manor
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>Anvil Hammer has an AR of 1323 at max stats
>Staff of the Avatar in second place has an AR of 1169
God damn that's a big difference
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>>489376906
Cheating is rampant in vanilla as well the anticheat literally only burdens players and was a mistake
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>>489376728
Compare your powerstanced gs anims next to the banished knight or ugs animations against Blaidd or Radahn. Or let’s look at Gideon, who has way more spell slots than you and an 80 in both FTH and INT. Fact is is that they’re far more skilled than your character will ever be. Your character is basically a novice who only gets by because he can absorb runes.
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>>489377183
>gate used to acend to godhood
>literally made of corpses
>"i dont get it"
How? literally how is anyone this stupid?
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>>489377242
>Hell, 80% of the actual content in the DLC is just in Shadow Keep.
This is only fun to mention in hindsight. Everyone here played at release when we combed the empty map for bosses and we had no idea we were wasting time and getting disappointed.

No bigger disappointment than riding for 1 hour in empty finger ruins and finding nothing.
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>>489376596
that's literally your interpretation upon the context of the game (your headcanon)
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>>489377113
This. Plus I’ve only seen one or two legit cheaters out of dozens of invasions
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>>489377492
You are not making sense
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>>489377037
You can't, no other game did it.
Elden Ring is the best of both. It has the agency of playthrough customization given by open world and keeps the focus on level design and boss fights of the Souls games without falling for tired open world tropes like scripted questing. All enemies and bosses in the overworld are thematic and fit their location. The DLC has given even more focus on lots of minor dungeons.
I like how ballsy Fromsoftware was. Most assumed the DLC would scale down the open world when they in fact integrated dungeons more seamlessly within it.
They couls have went for the easy route and just made 3 or 4 shadow keeps and they didn't
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>>489377183

Squelching people together violently equals divine outcome

See:
>Yahargul/Mensis ritual
>Eternal Cities/Lord of Night creation attempts
>Divine Gate/Marika's ascension
>smaller scale: hornsent jars turning the condemned into saints i. e. trying to rebirth criminals into something better
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parkenharbor
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>>489376821
It's even more retarded because the DLC is telling you to go explore and nab scadutree fragments. Just by doing this, you can break half of the questlines in the DLC and be unable to progress.
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>>489377113
>>489377543

Do that many people actually enable invasions in Seamless? Does it also enable invasions of solo hosts?
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>>489377885
>Just by doing this, you can break half of the questlines in the DLC
Name them and the condition for failing them
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>>489377532
I think it's pretty obvious. Maybe they did reuse the Dark Souls animations for expediency, but I like to think there's a lore reason for it as well, and that's because your Tarnished just isn't all that great at fighting and brute forces everything with raw power and ruthlessness.
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>>489377895
You need to DISABLE invasions via ini, they are on by default. And the frequency of invasions suggests there's a fuckload of people playing with them on because Seamless rewards for beating invaders with a loot table.
I don't know if you can enable solo, i've tried creating a session with only me inside but nobody came so i dunno.
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>>489375751
Seethe rollspamming soulsnigger, this is Elden Ring not your rollslop
>>>/dsg/
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>>489378075
if you think something is obvious, it is not a fact.
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>>489375503
you're missing out, one of the better writefaggotries to come out of this place (not that the competition is very strong since like 60% of the stuff /erg/ makes is coom)
>>489374296
https://archiveofourown.org/works/50141914/chapters/126629041
>updated aug 1
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>>489377895
I've run into solo hosts, yeah. Invasions on seamless are plentiful.
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>>489378042
Ansbach, Thiollier, Dryleaf, Fortissax, Hornsent, Moore, Igon, etc.
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>>489378302
>and the condition for failing them
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>>489375751
skill issue
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Any slopsloppers here? When I feel like slopping through Elden Slop but don't want to deal with the slop enemies and bosses I usually just slop my way through I think of it as slopslopping the slop that FromSlop slopped
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>>489378379
Walking up to Shadowkeep.
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>>489378183
Thanks, reported for copyright infringement
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>ask for the condition for failing quests
>get the condition for starting them instead
?
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>>489378386

Moon sloppers...
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>>489378386
>This is your brain on slopposting. Any questions?
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>>489377692
leave it to the pure drone to actually argue that less content is a GOOD thing
>level design
Elden Ring as a whole has inferior level design than even DS3. It is full of pointless shortcuts that lead from one site of grace to another that is down a ladder 15 feet away that you already have
>All enemies and bosses in the overworld are thematic and fit their location
>uhh, what should we fill Cerulean Coast with?
>demi-humans!
>They couls have went for the easy route and just made 3 or 4 shadow keeps and they didn't
That would have unironically been better, instead we got gaols, more catacombs, those shitty forges, and one-room mausoleums
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Does anyone have access to the image file of Miquella's incant symbol? Its so goddamn hard to get a good image of this thing...
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>>489377660
Ok let me spell this out for you.
The gate is made of bodies, it bleeds when hit with a weapon, to create the gate of divinity many people had to die. Its used to acend to godhood, so anyone using it is putting thier own desires above countless others for personal gain. It is an incredibly blatant and heavy handed symbol of the corruption of power and the human cost that comes as a result of said corrpution. This relates to miquella as well, he isnt using his mind control powers to make the world "a gentler place".
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>>489378814
Looks like a uterus tattoo
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>>489373401
>What items pre-dlc are there are connects miquella and radahn?
Miquella is sitting on Radahn's emblem in Ordina, towntied to Albinaurics.
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I like to "hear" the posts on /erg/ in the voices of Elden Ring characters that my brain autoselects for me. It makes browsing this place at a minimum twice as entertaining as usual. Sometimes the random character voice and post matches in a way that pushes it further beyond. For example I "heard" >>489378386 in Thiollier's voice.
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>Ranni shares VA with Mio from Xenoblade 3
Now i just have to do a Noah/N build
99 DEX and fuckload of Mind to spam the edgiest weebshit WAs like waterfowl i assume?
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>>489379270
is melania a WEEB?
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I want to Euporia AoW inside Leda's ass
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>>489374454
my 113 gets summoned to dlc rarely but mostly late base game. even got summoned as early as morgott and valcano manor today
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Have people figured out the timeline of the shadow realm?

>Marika is at the divine gate, possibly intended as a sacrifice (?)
>this coincides with the Elden Beasts arrival and her being chosen and creating the Elden Ring (?)
>this is obv not the intent of the hornsent's "tower to reach the gods", they have created their worst enemy (?)
>some time later the Erdtree and Scadutree are created as Marika consolidates her reign, and the entire central landmass of the Lands Between is blasted away and erased from history (?)
>some time later Marika creates Messmer's black ops crusade (this must be at a point where there are established nobles who end up forming the fire knights)
>the purpose of this is to both get rid of Messmer and possibly other undesirables and also to completely BTFO the hornsent once and for all
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>>489379452
She would never let that happen but she would peg you.
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>>489379270
Just use the Milady. Bonus points if you mod it to look like a Carian sword.
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>>489378957
He's marking his territory
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>>489379987
Imagine Miquella claiming you by rubbing his bussy all over your body and farting his musk so that everyone knows to stay away
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>>489379270
N's fighting style is literally just Unsheathe.
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Am I missing out by never summoning other players or leaving a sign to get summoned?
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>>489378794
>less content
Compared to what? Are you arguing that Shadow of the Erdtree doesn't offer unique content for its price? That's ludicrous
>Elden Ring as a whole has inferior level design than even DS3
Dogshit bait only a retard could possibly fall for
>That would have unironically been better
No, It would have been lazy and unoriginal. Elden Ring is one of a kind gama for its objectively unique take on the open world design. The DLC is actually an improvement for how unique and fresh both dungeons and minor dungeons are compared to each other, so they actually addressed legitimate complaints about the base game by keeping the best most fun dungeons like in the base game but not filling the map.
Having games centered around back to back dungeons is not a seal of quality either considering most of Dark Souls, Dark Souls 2, Dark Souls 3 and Sekiro have absymal level design and Elden Ring destroyed all of them.
It's beyond any doubt that Elden Ring has the best level design they have done, and how you progress through them, the path your run makes and what locations you go to find your tools is a great way to diversify playthroughs too
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>>489380461
i bet it's nice and empty like the rest of abyssal woods
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YOOO this PVP fire fr etc
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>>489378957
Those are fucking leaves you fucking retard
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If u summo... yoou s
should get ]beated up
griefer
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>>489378957
I don't see it
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>>489378957
yoo this lore is FIREE fr on god :fire: :fire: @tarnished_archaeologist @vaatividya
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>>489378957
Is this bait? There isn't a single Golden Order-related character who DOESN'T have leaf- and tree-themed decals.
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>>489379714
>>this coincides with the Elden Beasts arrival and her being chosen and creating the Elden Ring (?)
I believe that happened first. Quite likely a long time before. Setting aside everything with the dragons and the gloam-eyed queen, I don't think Marika is ever credited with the creation of the Elden Ring. Rather she's said to have brought about the Golden Order by extracting the rune of death from the Elden Ring.
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>>489380223
When they get serious they unzip permanently and go Waterfowl on everything
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DS3 was better
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>>489380543
>watching the tourney
>It's all monkeys in 100 poise armor playing passive and spamming rot pots at each other
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>>489378075
The player has more than enough tools to fight enemies in Elden Ring.
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>>489381080
And barely any guidance on how to find or use those tools.
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>>489380543
>>489381036
>normie redditor ecelebs versus the sweatiest niggers on twitch
>with dogshit commentary from people with no experience
>poise blobs, rot pots, grease, halstocs, dual hammers, lgs
hate watching was a mistake, this was worse than i thought. Somehow all of this garbage dodged their "ban list"
RIP everyone having to go up against the faggot argie himself
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>>489378957
Kek It's hilarious how more than a month later Radahnquella still makes people seethe
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>>489380543
>no chasetheGOD

Yeah, i'm not watching this crap
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>>489380795
yeah I thought the story trailer was Marika adding a gold strand of hair (Gold Rune) into the Ring like how the player adds mending runes at the end to change the order of the world
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dlc radahn is fucking ridiculous the fucking epitome of "let me have a fucking turn"
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>>489381286
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>>489332991
Normally you would be right, but in this case you are wrong because infusing them with the other element increases their scaling for some reason. Let's use the hammer as an example. At 80 FTH and bare minimum STR/DEX:
>Sacred: 298 physical, 553 holy, total AR: 851
>Flame Art: 298 physical, 510 fire, 157 holy, total AR: 965
The Flame Art version has 0.97 FTH scaling, while the sacred only has 0.71, resulting in these absolutely fucked numbers. An enemy would need to have absolutely jacked up fire resistance and basically no holy resistance for the sacred one to be the better choice. This isn't unique to the hammer either. The same thing happens if you flame art infuse the twinblade or sacred infuse the three fire knight weapons.
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>>489381198
>>489381080
You summon something who actually knows how to fight to do battle for you.
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>>489380461
more cut content, please understand
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>>489381476
You can't stun him with parries or something?
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>>489381286
is it really clueless retards vs pvp youtubers?
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>>489381036
Oro is like the only honest experienced PVPer in the tourney, he's just using the AMOGUS, although he's also firing off rot pots at the people tossing rot pots at him. Meanwhile every tryhard faggot like Steelovsky and OnlyWaifu is just running the same soulless
>banished knight halberd off-hand hand axe
>greasy shamshir / cleanrot knight sword
setup
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>>489378957
The full one
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>>489381524
553 holy is significantly better than 510 fire plus a useless third wheel damage type
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>>489381704
You don't understand how resistances work.
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>>489380543
What I wouldn't give to see the professional gambling addict wipe the floor with the tryhards
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>>489381398
>man chaser
He will be spamming hefty for lots
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>OMFG THIS IS SO EPIC
>PLACE YOUR BETS
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You should be able to save builds as loadouts you can quickly swap between.
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>>489381778
Right back at you
That 100 holy damage on a flame art version is absolutely useless
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>>489381843
Schizo
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>>489381387
Let them be happy...
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Goddamn I love loreposting, it's like trying to figure out fragments of ancient myths where gods were said to steal or grant entire concepts of knowledge from/to mortals and also half of the clay tablets are missing or undecipherable.
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>>489381851
Does onlywaifu has lewds of her(his) toon?
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>>489381890
Nioh literally did this on top of having Seamless Coop naturally
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SEND YOUR ENERGY TO HIM TO KEK ONLYARGIE
>>489381590
see >>489381494, what do you think? Somehow they let fuckin St*el and OW in
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>>489381198
>it's the game's fault that i'm retarded
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LFG ORO
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>>489333546
>sacred pot on the untouchable
Am I missing something here?
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>>489381851
>Steeloskvy vs normalfag challenge runner#8934347896
Is this some sort of joke
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>>489380512
Compared to the base game. There isn't a single area in the base game that isn't packed with content. The DLC comparatively has VERY few dungeons, with over half the zones being literally devoid of them altogether.
>Are you arguing that Shadow of the Erdtree doesn't offer unique content for its price?
Can you read? Did I say that? Or are you trying to steer the conversation away from what I am saying?
>The DLC is actually an improvement for how unique and fresh both dungeons and minor dungeons are compared to each other
Bullshit. There are 4 dungeon types in the DLC, one of them being a fucking ONE ROOM dungeon which shouldn't even count as a dungeon at all. Catacombs are not fresh, they are recycled from the base game so your point doesn't stand on that one either. Now you are left with forges, which are boring, and gaols, pretty much the only fresh dungeon content in the DLC.
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>>489382145
The dungeons are far better than basegame though. It's quality over quantity.
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>>489380803
>they
N always fight in Iai pose, all of his anime attacks are just different flavors of unsheathe. Even Shred the Strawman.
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>>489381398
He's not participating because he can't edit out his losses so he only fights clueless PVE'ers
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>>489381936
It's not 100, it's 157. Let's examine what happens when you smack an enemy with these who has 40% resistances to every element:
>Sacred has it's 553 holy damage cut down to 60%, meaning 331 makes it through to damage calculation
>Flame Art has its fire damage cut to 307 and its holy cut to 94 for damage calculation
>307 + 94 = 401
>401 > 331
Again, normally you would be correct that damage splitting is bad. But the fact that the damage splitting increases the scaling on these weapons means the AR goes up so high that an enemy would need absolutely jacked resistance to the element you're adding to make splitting not worth it.
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>>489381476
Upload your next attempt I wanna point out all the turns you actually had but didn't take
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>>489382291
Leyndell Catacombs is still more memorable for me
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>>489338278
>>489333546
I missed this....
>tfw nowadays everybody already parried them to death when I spawned in
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>>489382006
Neat pic but I'd assume Messmer's vision of flame is probably something different from Melina's.
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>>489382138
no, the culture vultures of mainstream media have done this for years. Bring in some popular maggots from the crop for PR while hosting events on FOTM shit they know nothing about. As usual , they'll sell out and play anyways since they get free easy wins and promotions
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MAKE A NEW THREAD YOU FUCKING NONCE. I'LL FUCKING SPLATTER YOU I SWEAR IT.
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>>489382406
>who has 40% resistances to every element:
Now take flat resistances into account and your 150 turns into jack shit.
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>>489381843
can still see sap
can still see the crumbling effect of veils
cope
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>steelovsky the massive tryhard faggot vs. onlywaifu the massive tryhard faggot
ebin
simply ebin

what a wonderful concept for an event
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>>489382584
Bosses don't have flat resistances. Only players do.
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Steelovsky rotting and shieldpoking in this weird tournameny is kinda based. Get rekt challenge runners
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>>489382609
Onlywaifu is a terrible player
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>>489382609
Isn't onlywaifu garbage carried by his horrible latency, one anon here dabbed on that faggot, there's a webm
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I'm going insane watching this "pvp tourney"
30 second unskippable twitch ads followed by two clueless nonwhite retards discussing two third world passive monkeynigger youtubepvpers running around switch shamshirs and rot grease
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>>489381970
>>489382587
cope harder
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>>489382783
Why the fuck are you watching it?
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>>489382145
>There isn't a single area in the base game that isn't packed with content. The DLC comparatively has VERY few dungeons
The DLC has 3 legacy dungeons and 3 minor legacy dungeons. That's abundant for its price and scope
>with over half the zones being literally devoid of them altogether
Good, that makes the gameplay time really focused on tbe more dense portion of the map
>Bullshit. There are 4 dungeon types in the DLC
So as much as the base game types
>Catacombs are not fresh, they are recycled from the base game
wrong
>Now you are left with forges, which are boring
subjective
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>>489382652
Oh, we're talking about pve? Lmao whatever
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Who is top left?
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>>489382938
the chainsaw guy
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>>489382938
Zanzicacus the bold, golimancer of colonberg
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can we get a new thread
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>>489382750
Yeah, he's straight up Argentinian
>find webm with a quick search
>went from using bk halberd off-stoc to bk halberd off-axe
lol...

Oro is too good for dueling this guy again even though he apparently broke the rules on top of his shit connection.
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>>489382903
If we are talking about PvP the subject is moot because the black steel greathammer is shit there compared to great stars. Holy damage is bugged in PvP and it's fancy guard counter isn't going to do shit there either.
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>>489382750
>there's a webm
Can someone post it?
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>>489383063
lmfao he actually ganks at level 20 something too, i think an anon here also fought him at stormveil and he had a max level boyfriend too
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>>489383057
>>489382506
just post what you want to post already fag
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>>489382938
Could just be a younger Rykard as a Golden Order Justiciar.
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>>489381540
No, the summon doesn't know spacing or read enemy animations. I can
Not the game's fault you are more stupid and incompetent than an NPC
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>Oro, the only relatively honest player with a right to be there, got shat on
welp time to close the tab
>>489382783
holy fuck your post made me kek
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>>489383073
>and it's fancy guard counter isn't going to do shit there either
Guard counter of blacksteel has hyperarmor, it absolutely obliterates randoms in a way great stars will never do.
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>>489382861
Again, your points are:
>less content is better
>empty areas are good
you're an empty-headed FROMdrone who thinks they can make no wrong moves, refusing to even admit catacombs are recycled from the base game for some retarded reason? Get your shit together.
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>>489383214
It wouldn't surprise me, he's ganking in that webm
>drops 41727 souls
>meaning he was a RL325 password phantom
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WHERE'S THE LAMB SAUCE?
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>>489383286
Oroboro is a fucking douchebag who loves to bully the fuck out of people what are you talking about
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>>489383305
Doesn't really matter with the holy damage bug. You're gutting your damage if you bring a sacred weapon into PvP since your buffs aren't going to work on it.
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>>489383063
>41,000 runes
>level 300 downscaled phantom tryharding against level 20s
lol
nuke south america
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>>489383345
>>less content
>>489382145
>>Are you arguing that Shadow of the Erdtree doesn't offer unique content for its price?
>Can you read? Did I say that?
Yeah I think we are done
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>>489383214
He had a boyfriend and they spammed storm blade like niggers against an RL1 char yeah
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>>489382861
>3 legacy dungeons and 3 minor legacy dungeons
>40$
>base game has 6 and 10 (14 if you count siofra, nokron, mohgwyn and deeproot)
>60$
i don't follow
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>>489382861
what the fuck do you mean catacombs aren't recycled? Did you miss literally every single one of them in the base game somehow?
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>>489383420
I said "relatively" as in *comparison* kek, i know that guy's still a weasel cunt unfortunately. He just isn't the same insufferable minmaxing nigger plagues like the other two tho
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>onlywaifu breaks the rules, leading to a situation where oro can choose to DQ him or rematch
>chooses to rematch out of honor
>immediately gets shit on by onlywaifu's dog shit brazilian internet
>onlywaifu starts abusing the latency with poison
lmao jfc fuck anyone who takes this game's pvp seriously. why did they let this guy in?
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>>489383496
Are UNIQUE and LESS the same word now you fucking illiterate faggot?
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>>489383563
They have new enemies and mechanics
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>>489383010
He had blood soaked bandages which is what Bernahl's Finger Maiden wore in the cut content but that's cut content or the maker used random clothes.
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>>489346126
To get you to join Mohg. He tells you being maidenless is a problem if you want to become lord, that the fingers are full of shit and the greater will has abandoned the lands between.
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>>489383612
>>489383612
>>489383612
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>>489383547
Gee, it's a good thing that legacy dungeons aren't the only thing in the DLC
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>>489383763
>now catacombs have imps, but they shoot fireballs!
WOOOOOAH SPICY FRESH CONTENT
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>>489383763
>instead of imp it's another imp
>instead of raising floor into a spike that you find in dungeons like impalers catacomb now the floor falls onto you
>death blight frog statue is just the same shit as winter lantern enemies
>>489383913
>The DLC has 3 legacy dungeons and 3 minor legacy dungeons. That's abundant for its price and scope
moving the goalposts?
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>>489383871
What the fuck is wrong with you?
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>>489383547
Shuf up faggot, yes a larger vertical dungeon with its own remembrance boss is totally comparable to fucking Castle Morne, retard
>>489383743
Funny how you still try to push the narrative that the DLC didn't respect a certain "quantity" of content it should have had according to your criteria based on whothefuckknows standards, when at least half of The Old Hunters is completely recycled enemies and locations.
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>>489384317
>b-but whuddabout BLOODBORNE!
TOP
FUCKING
KEK
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>>489383871
What the fuck is right with you?
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>>489384429
>no argument
pottery
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>>489384317
holy shit, it's messmer knight/soldier, base game mages and troll, wandering nobles and female pontiff (with no cutscene or dialogues)! amazing legacy dungeon!
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>>489384514
>he thinks a whataboutism is an argument
you are literally mentally disabled
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>>489383989
>It doesn't count because I say so
LOLE
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>>489384014
>It's different
>It's different
>It's different
I accept your concession, shitposting retard
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>>489384878
let me fix it for you: it's lazy.
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>>489384675
>Whataboutism
It's a legitimate comparison to 2 pieces of content with the same cost, and Shadow of the Erdtree offers more than double the content, seethe harder
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>>489383989
darklight is clearly the best catacomb dungeon in the game, the others are good, too
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>>489354956
>sellen was banished for her fucked up glintstone experiments
>feeds you biased info about how glintstone is based and the academy is limiting itself by restricting study on it
>Thops and jerren both tell you that sellen's killed/mutated other sorcerers in the past
>involved in a body-swap scheme with resident creepy magic man seluvis
You retards will believe anything if a moderately attractive woman tells it to you. A clear minded individual could tell that her revenge quest couldn't end for her, especially after seeing how Azur and Lusat ended up.
>Why does every quest need to end in doom and gloom?
Finish Nepheli's quest. You didn't give her the mind control potion, did you?
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>>489385007
it's a whataboutism. No one was talking about Bloodborne, no one was talking about other FROM DLCs. We were talking about base game content vs DLC content. You are trying to muddy the waters so you can retreat like the coward you are.
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>>489384937
No, it's different
Inquisitors, bigmouth Imp, putrescence sorcerers, messmer soldiers, death knights, etc... are all new enemies
The layoufs and traps are also different. They are far more enjoyable and take and amplify the best part of the most creative minor dungeons of the base game.
You can seethe all you want, but everybody knows SotE has higher quality major and minor dungeons, which was already fairly good on average but lacked that variety, that fovus the DLC brought.
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>>489385521
>it's a whataboutism.
no, it's
>a legitimate comparison to 2 pieces of content with the same cost, and Shadow of the Erdtree offers more than double the content, seethe harder
and I'm not retreating from anything. I'm standing my ground because I'm right. There's no "less" content than it should have, it's more than varied and has so much more things per its cost than any DLC content From made, but you don't seethe about The Old Hunters having 2 out of 3 locations and 1 out of 3 enemies reskinned from the base game and its 5 dogshit bosses for a much lower value per buck, which is really telling that you are just a dishonest shitposter.
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>>489378919
I'm disappointed there's like only 1-2 NSFW artworks of Miquella mindbreaking the player with his rune. The rest of it is him using the hypnosis app on Radahn
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>>489385984
>keeps rambling about Bloodborne
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>>489382938
He's a guy from House Marais. You can see his portraits around the swamp castle on Mt. Gelmir. I'm pretty sure there's 0 lore on him. Probably the old lord of the castle before it went to hell.
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>>489386935
I read an item description earlier about him that all his sons were born sickly so he was fond of Malenia but I can't remember where I seen it



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