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Followers of Miquella edition

>Main information document
https://rentry.org/erpasta

>Character planners
https://eip.gg/elden-ring/build-planner/
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/19Op36P7gdVMkPzFQX6OsjZcfyUjdGOj7Cjk9qFAVj-U/edit

>Interactive map
https://mapgenie.io/elden-ring/maps/the-lands-between

>Group password
erg

>Previous Grace:
>>489383612
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Latest patch
https://en.bandainamcoent.eu/elden-ring/news/elden-ring-patch-notes-version-1132
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michella general
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When should I put down a message?
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Post tarnished
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>>489455020
Miquella general!
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>Miquella charms me two times during the fight with Radahn
>have to kneel down before them
>Miquella makes me suck Radahn's cock for two minutes before I wake up at the grace again
Is that really necessary
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>>489455131
Good one, I wish there was a version of this chest piece that doesn't show any body, it's too lewd for my type B characters, but I like the wings.
My int/fth.
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>>489455304
>type B
meant to say type A characters, I only play dudes
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>>489455304
God that staff looks so cool. I really gotta get around to making an INT/FAI guy
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>>489455421
>God that staff looks so cool
yeah, and then there's Fleeting Microcosm, fantastic looking spell
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So here's who I see in this image
>malenia
>radahn
>godwyn
>leonard
>messmer
>marika
>radagon
>elden beast
>fingers
>mohg
>melina
>miquella
Hypothetically speaking how do you think they'd all react to eachother in the afterlife? Do you think the likes of godfrey would be proud of his sons?
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>>489454902
Thread theme
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8lEhUf4ip-I
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>>489455524
Awful shame that there weren't more finger sorceries of that style, really enjoy the cosmic horror aesthetic angle they took with the fingers in the DLC
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Fire affinity does NOT improve strength scaling and I'm tired of pretending that it does

The beast man curved sword is shit on this infusion
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>>489455654
>Do you think the likes of godfrey would be proud of his sons?
considering they were all a bunch of failures that got murdered by some hobo tarnished a fifth their size, no
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>>489455984
What if that tarnished was the hero class and thus one of godfreys descendants? Would godfrey at least be proud of them and lady of limgrave nepheli?
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>>489455965
unless you mean str scaling on physical damage, in which case I have no clue
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>fujos have agreed that radahn is miquella's wife
>shitposters have agreed that radahn is miquella's wife
>japanese shitposters have agreed that radahn is miquella's wife
Is it over radahnbros?
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>>489456438
it never even began

>>489456197
godfrey is barely a character, who cares
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>>489455131
Hornsent fucking shits
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>>489455265
cover them up slut
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>>489455836
same, that was my favorite part. Next game for sure...
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funny how seamless coop users still don't disable invasions en masse despite being able to do so
It's almost like invaders are part of what makes game more spicy and good?
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Sorry but if you don't level your characters to 200 in the DLC you have no right complaining about difficulty.
Use those runes the DLC gives you.
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I'm kinda underwhelmed with STR builds in this DLC. Aside from heavy milady all new additions feel mediocre as fuck. Nothing they got is as good as falx or sword of night, let alone rakshasa's.
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>>489457320
If you use all your runes you end up around 220, even.
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>>489456527
I care
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>>489455131
Anyone else got pictures of their tarnished in the Fox News™ chair?
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>>489457320
>Dex build
>Dump all my runes into endurance so I can light roll with more gear.
>Str build
>Dump all my runes into endurance so I can wear heavy armor with a colossal weapon and a greatshield
Endurance is good.
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imagine a world where astel is everywhere
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>>489456438
radahn is zaki's self-insert.
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>>489457756
Elden Ring 2 will do this just to further upset people who complained about the second Astel.
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>>489457627
based and athleticismpilled
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>>489457821
Why the fuck would you even complain about the second Astel? You have to go out of your way to find and fight it. It's the definition of optional.
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>>489457873
a boss as unique as astel should not be repeated
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>>489458102
Astel isn't unique even ignoring the Snowfields one. You find several of them hanging from ceilings underground in a sort of "metamorphosis" phase and they appear to be the next stage for Fallingstar Beasts.
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>>489458102
you meet two astels hanging from ceilings before you can access the remembrance one
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>>489457320
200 isn't any different than 100 in the dlc. you just need a single damage stat and 60 vigor.
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>>489458183
>>489458184
those are malformed stars, not astels. yes they're implied to be related but they're not remotely similar gameplay wise

astel being repeated still isn't as bad as godefroy though
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>>489457324
bloodfiend's arm. that's strength (you don't need stupid high arcane to make use of it).
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>>489458346
>He doesn't understand how Scadutree blessing works
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gay faggot sex with kindly miquella
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>>489458372
Astel is referred to as a malformed star in his remembrance.
I like the Godefroy fight. He drops one of the best talismans and it's Godrick re-match that isn't a total pushover, which is nice.
In fact, the same is true for Astel: he is a bit underpowered for the moment in the game you meet him, so an actually challenging version is a good addition.
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>>489458183
elden ring already suffers from a boss reuse problem, specially worse in the mountaintops. having the last boss from ranni's quest show up again will be bad regardless if they are "the same species"
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>>489458372
Godefroy is the key to all of this.
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>>489458578
I like when you first meet a boss and he does some moves, then you meet him again and his moveset expands and gets harder.

I do not like when you meet a boss and he does fire, then you meet him again and he does the same moves but lightning, then you meet him again but his boyfriend is with him, etc.
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>I wish I could refight bosses
>Godefroy, Astel 2, Mimic Tear 2...
>noooo not like that
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>i like godefroy's fight
some of you guys just want to defend the game at all costs and it shows
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>>489458945
It's a stronger version of a boss that is too easy even at rl1, I don't see a major problem here, ER has problems such as actual bugs, netcode, linear/simplistic legacy dungeons, frequently re-used bosses (there's one Godfrey but so many tree spirits), too passive mobs and so on. Getting a chance to re-fight bosses at a better difficult is OK as
>>489458843
pointed out
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>>489458490
He's too clean and smells too nice for gay faggot sex
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Godefroy matters because he's godwyns grandson
He also happens to be the great grandfather of two characters
Godrick the grafted who took after him
And an equally pathetic "demigod" you know who it is, look on the mirror.
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>>489459325
you don't like "godefroy's fight" there's NO godefroy boss battle, that's godrick. you like godrick.
>oh the boss doesn't die in 5 hits he now dies in 10
nerf yourself? if you have an easy time against godrick then you also don't have trouble with "godefroy"
>ER has problems such as [...] frequently re-used bosses
? and reusing a shardbearer doesn't fit here?
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>>489459594
Stay mad. Godefroy won
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Godefroy isn't even a proper Godrick rematch since he doesn't have a phase 2. It's a stupid fight.
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>>489459628
Concession Accepted.
>stay mad
Projection.
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>>489459594
like I said, Godrick isn't tough even at rl1, Godefroy at least has more health and hits harder, also drops a better reward.
And regarding re-use, I explained in the post you quoted: there's a difference between having a single re-fight for higher level characters (Godefroy, Stars of Darkness) and spamming bosses like tree spirits or night's cavalry dudes.
This is made even worse in the DLC with entire areas consisting only of bloodfiends, rats, gravebirds.
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I'm sorry for starting an argument, friends
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>>489456527
i also care
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>>489459830
Why's that Elden Beast a weird color
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>>489458578
>elden ring already suffers from a boss reuse problem
No it doesn't. Even ignoring all the recycled bosses it has more unique bosses than any other FROM game.
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>>489459950
all my settings were at minimum because laptop, and maybe some LOD stuff
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>>489459824
>This is made even worse in the DLC with entire areas consisting only of bloodfiends, rats, gravebirds.
Something we can agree on.
>>489460010
It does.
>Even ignoring all the recycled bosses it has more unique bosses than any other FROM game.
It's a bigger game? Having more unique bosses shouldn't be a surprise.
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>>489459796
Say concession accepted again ill kiss you on the lips faggot. Is that what you want? Huh? Homo
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>>489456632
What's the chest piece on this?
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>>489460318
patches. he has awesome armor in this game
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ranni's rise also refers to her massive throbbing erection
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what's the best bayle incant?
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>>489460473
Yeah. It's actually well known that empyreans are all like this. Miquella had a vagina, radagon did too, marika and ranni had fat cocks, malenia had one too she used to "practice" with in preparation for miquella being plapped by radahn but hers rotted off. All female empyreans are by their nature futas. All male empyreans or the female's male halves are cuntboys. This raises the question, is st trina a futa too? Is that what her nectar is? Her cum? Is that why the femboy thiollier is obsessed with her? Does she give people wet dreams?
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>>489460636
Wait so is this what miyazaki meant in that interview by marika/ranni rape you in their respective endings? They use their dicks?
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>>489455019
>Fixed a bug where summoned spirits were not correctly receiving the attack power and damage negation increase effect from Revered Spirit Ash Blessing.
That explains why my max spirit ash blessing latenna was doing fucking 200 damage per shot when in the base game she can solo malenia without the increased damage from the spirit ash blessings
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>>489460205
>Game has more unique bosses than any other game in the series
>Still complain because it isn't enough
You are insufferable.
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>>489460585
Tyranny, but even then it's mediocre. They're both pretty bad. Flame Lightning does good damage but lacks HA, making it just a worse Dragonmaw in the end even if it outdamages Dragonmaw. Tyranny is a halfway decent AOE incant though, giving it some form of niche. Both need buffs.
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>>489459375
straight heterosexual sex with kindly miquella
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>>489460898
>when in the base game she can solo malenia
Bull shit. Post a video of Latenna soloing Malenia. Also if you cast heal incants on her, that's not solo'ing.
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Stellar Blade has better combat than Elden Ring.
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>>489461338
why do you have your monkeys during an invasion? Is that on seamless?
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>>489454902
>Followers of Miquella edition
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>>489461503
Yeah you can use ashes as an invader in seamless.
So can hosts/phantoms.
It's pretty neat.
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Elden Ring has a lot of problems but it has the most fun magic in the series so I can't stop playing it. I am now addicted to the Staff of the Great Beyond.
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>>489461649
>Thiollier as INT
>Leda as FTH
>Dane as DEX
>Hornsent as MND
Whoever made this is a fucking retard.
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>>489461756
cool, it's the same for me, I found my true calling as a caster
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>>489459375
>>489461263
It was theorized by nips a while ago that radahn was actually an oversized ugly tomboy that identified as a man to cope with how ugly she was and miquella took a liking to her. It's also why radahn treated freyja so well. Ugly woman having sympathy for another ugly woman.
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>>489461338
No it doesn't, it's a lot more retard friendly though, as all parryslop is
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>>489461828
What would Leda be then? DEX/FTH?
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>>489461756
>Elden Ring has a lot of problems
like?
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>>489462161
It doesn't get more dlc.
Also Radahn Mickey is a shitty boss
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>>489462161
Can't marry miquella
Can't marry malenia
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>>489462080
Leda is pure DEX. Her sword just has FTH tax, the ash scales purely on DEX and gets almost all of its AR from DEX.
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>>489461716
That's pretty cool, it makes a lot of ashes usefull suddenly I bet
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>>489462161
No harem route
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>>489462350
Good
Not good.
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What weapon would fit as a buildup to using the black blade? Besides the black knife assassin knife and Godslayer's greatsword, the sword feels too much like a finale weapon like Maliketh's.
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>>489462617
Greatreespear
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>>489461338
Most recent Soulslikes all have better combat than ER. FROM got too complacent with ER.
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>>489462161
No rematch with Godefroy.
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>Inspires such devotion that noble sons and a Carian Princess abandoned their home and birthright to be with him
>Acted as Radahn's older brother, which implies Rennala and Marika's children mingled
>Once the Hornsent purge starts, some of his soldiers rebelled once they found out about his snakes

Why did they give him so much LORE, no wonder people are obsessed with him
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Can you guide someone to Euporia from the First Rise grace point or is it out of bounds? I'd like to think it's not out of bounds cause that would be stupid but there are some very stupid coop boundaries and it wouldn't surprise me.
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>>489462161
One is a lack of boss rematches and options like boosted health for the boss.
I want to bare fist fight or dryleaf arts Hoarah Loux barechested, since if you don't do that, you didn't beat the game
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im playing without scadutree blessings and this fucking npc gankfest sucks so fucking bad. at least with bosses i can learn their movesets/patterns, and its fun to die over and over while getting good. this has none of that. get punched by dryleaf dane? one shot. get love tapped by moore's shield? one shot. get stabbed by leda? one shot. no stamina to run away and get distance, no stamina to do anything but get overwhelmed and die. sleep doesnt work of course. so i assume the fight is just a parry check, but then you'll just get a riposte and the other 2 npcs will just kill you on wakeup. i guess im gonna have to respec and try and find some op meme build.
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>>489463409
It's actually out of bounds at some point, there's a big elevator where you disappear as the summoned phantom. But if the person you guide there can't find the way on their own they're clinically retarded, literally mentally handicapped.
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>>489463579
>im playing without scadutree blessings
Why?
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>>489463579
>no stamina to run away and get distance
Have you tried the stamina regen + light roll tears?
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>>489463664
Oh yeah now that you mention it, I do remember invading around that area at some point and we did get ported back past a point. Fuck that's retarded.
>But if the person you guide there can't find the way on their own they're clinically retarded, literally mentally handicapped.
The host gets ported back as well, doesn't he?
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>>489463579
have you tried using skibidis
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>>489457570
I'm Dead and loving it.
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>>489459796
>Concession Accepted
I don't even care what you fags are arguing about but I assume anyone who says this is some effeminate faggot who needs to have the shit beat out of them.
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>exploring micks haligtree
>checking out the engravings in the walls
>suddenly notice nude guy flopping his cock out
>posed like the autistic screeching meme
What the fuck Micky?
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>>489463579
Well, it's a meme encounter, not a boss fight. It's the one fight in the entire game clearly intended t not be solo'd. Of course it's very easy to solo with the right build if you level your scooby snacks but if you're doing some scoobyless challenge run then you should just summon Ansbach and the cuck.
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>>489463912
>Why?
because ive been playing these games since demons souls and they arent hard anymore. i want my first playthru to be challenging, not using the blessings makes it an extreme challenge, especially because i was using a shit build (until messmer made me use a greatshield and greatspear with bleed because it was insane).
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>>489464594
I'm so happy that this game included an accurate depiction of me :)
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>>489464757
>i'm so pro nothing is difficult to me lol I want a challenge
>immediately crutches on bleed shieldpoking at the first sight of challenge
You can't make this shit up.
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>>489463452
NG+ exists
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>>489461338
>PARRY PARRY PARRY PARRY PARRY
>SPECIAL CINEMATIC MOVE
lole
>>489462959
samefag
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>>489464970
have you fought messmer without blessings?
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>>489464757
Hoping you find pleasure in struggling like that because you can't brag about beating the game withour the skibidis. It just seems stupid. But you do you, big man.
Wait until you get to the final boss because there's no possible cheese build or anything. It's so absurd.
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Can you get invaded even when solo on Seamless? Or is it better to Taunter's Tongue on Vanilla? I want to dick around with some weapons without invading or cooping
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>>489465208
NTA but I have. Messmer is a very fair boss.
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>>489465214
There are plenty of cheese builds for the final boss.
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>>489465340
Yes and yes.
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>>489464594
damn miquella looks like that?
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>>489465340
What's the point of playing solo pvp on seamless coop?
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>>489465610
Better latency and Seamless loads much faster on startup for some reason for me
>>489465562
Ok thanks
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Antspur Rapier is the best weapon in the game. Not the most fun. Not fair or cool. Best.
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>>489455654
malenia isn't dead
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>>489465735
I have had the opposite experience but whatever floats your boat
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>>489455654
cute picture
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>>489465562
>Yes
I activated the jar thinking it would pull malicious wanderers in but I never got anyone.
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I can't believe the new patch saved multiplayer so hard bros I'm having so much fun invading now
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>>489467562
Just do what everybody else that doesn't hate themselves did and just invade on seamless.
Instant invasions constantly regardless of time of day and actually fun.
Live servers are fucking dead outside of peak times and even then its slow outside of anything but meta range.
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>>489461828
>>489462360
Sorry, Anon, I went with thematic autism instead of ARtism.
Thiollier is INT cause his weapon has an INT tax. I also feel like one's gotta use a little more Intelligence when working with poisons.
Leda's FTH cause her sword has a FTH tax, like you said, and she casts FTH spells. She also has the purest Faith in Miquella
Admittedly, Dane as DEX was just a "fuggit, put DEX somewhere" but I like what one Anon said about him being the Quality roll
You're right though, Hornsent as MND is silly cause that's a dud stat and I gave Dane DEX before moving onto the Hornsent. He loses his Mind though, so that was my justification
I'll update the chart when I get home though so Dane is QAL and the Hornsent is DEX
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>>489461329
NTA but anon, it's well-known that she can solo damage-kill malenia with ease as long as you can just walk around close to malenia herself because she has that script in her ai where if she detects a projectile she will go full aggro on the player. rellana has the same ai script. latenna can't solo malenia without any intervention from you because she's immobile obviously, but she can damage and kill malenia with ease as long as you can avoid getting killed by her.
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>>489465482
May I ask you an example? To be honest I haven't looked for one.
No wait. Actually my spellcaster build (native build, my own playstyle) I tweaked it to "cheese", at least to cream the boss. Shield buff spell, Night Comet on the bastard while two summons helped tank him. The buff helped me stay alive while my Night Comet was the most cost-efficient attack (80INT with Rennala staff).
I couldn't do it without my two summoned friends.

By the way if you're one of the guys with the bigass jar on your head who helped a guy in Carian armor who put a small jar on his head before the fight, I can't thank you enough. I almost died of a heart attack with this fucking boss.
We were the Jar Squad, forever in my memory.
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>>489462041
Yes and it was theorized by shitskin mutts that Miquella is actually an Uber driver from Jersey. Who FUCKING cares about that shit lol
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>Caves your head in with a jaw on a stick
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Fucking flails suck.
I thought they'd have better range than maces but I feel like I'm missing way more from lack of range than when I was using a mace.
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>>489455131
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good morning erg!
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>>489469823
Good morning
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Scythes have the most fun dual wielding moveset in the game.
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>>489469823
morning good poster rya
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>>489469823
You are not HIM.
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>>489456231
oh ok. can you do lightning
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>be you, heavily armored knight wandering the lands between
>barely clothed woman tries to fight you
>you beat her ass but she keeps getting back up
>you basically break all her bones, abuse her, make her scream and practically make a snuff film out of her
>eventually you get exhausted
>she then slits your throat promptly
how do you respond without sounding mad?
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>>489470725
Melina being bullied by all the black knives because she is a womanlet...
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>>489470780
>you basically break all her bones, abuse her, make her scream and practically make a snuff film out of her
bro
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>>489470780
>jumping attack spam
You didn't beat me.
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I hate rellana so much. Think I'd rather fight Radahn again over this magic spamming roll catching CUNT
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I wish we knew more about Radagon. He pretty much doesn't exist.
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>>489471206
Radagon is Marika
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>>489468961
Shield poke or just tanking with poise, ironjar aromatic, and health restoration/steal are a couple of examples.
It's not really a cheese build, since parrying requires skill, but antspur rapier parrying is also an easy strategy once you learn his moves.
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>>489471297
I'm going to touch you.
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>>489471118
I wish she had a summoning pool outside her room. I rarely get summoned to castle ensis and usually lose the host to the invader or a dog.
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>>489471440
RADAGON IS MARIKA
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>>489470725
Is this about the original Ryaposter or what
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>A Great Rune relinquished by Miquella. Broken and bereft of its bounty, it retains naught but the power to resist charms.
Why though? Why can it be used to resist charms?
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>>489471351
Yeah right, so there's no literal cheese that lets you instakill the boss with no skill. You still have to fight for your piece of meat.
So my build is also cheese then. Shield buff spell, Night Comet, sometimes a bit of Carian Slicer.
The boss is absurdly strong however. Without the skibidis or without help it's going to give you a brain hemorrage.
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>>489471667
yes
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>>489471449
I have been getting some summons on the dancing lion and hippo. Haven’t tried it on Rellana yet
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>>489465920
with bleed, yes.
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>>489471297
Finkle is Einhorn
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Aren't there summons in NG+? Tried summoning before Rennala because it's a fun fight, more fun than with just the mimic, there was no one.
Likewise I haven't been summoned as blue yet.
Is multiplayer dead when you NG+?
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>>489471489
You asked for it.
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>>489471812
So it's just disinfo then
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>>489472020
Level is the only thing that matters.
What level are you?
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>>489472107
Shit I must be like 230 something...
I have finished the DLC. I NG+ for the cheevos. It's piss easy but I feel lonely.
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>>489471669
Someone tried to charm Miquella long ago but he flipped it and raped the rapist
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LHB-dld9DTY
so, is it kino?
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>>489472203
I found summons and I'm 310
Maybe you are playing at awful hours. There should be plenty of 200+ characters
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>AIslop
no
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>>489471705
"Cheesing" a boss does not mean that you "instakill it with no skill". It means a simple, easy strategy that negates mechanics. Using these strategies, Radahn does hardly any damage, nor do you need to react to any attacks. That's why it's a cheese.
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>>489472067
NO
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thiollier's needle is rather lackluster in pve for damage considering when you get it.
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>>489472649
>this weapon that instant kills enemies in PvE is low damage
Ya think?
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give me a level 80 hardcore pvp build
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bad news elden lords I think I'm starting to develop arthritis
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>>489469639
>Ho, traveler. I see you have walked within 15 feet of us
>Welcome to our land full of weird monsters and undead stuff
>The great ancestor spirit has spoken to me from its realm of peaceful animals and nature worship
>It says I need to beat you to death for no reason
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>>489472952
Skill issue.
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>>489472971
can't blame em, poachers be on they poachin clownery
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>>489472415
Okay then. If right now is an awful hour. Maybe it's the EVRO servers.
>>489472524
I believe cheesing means yeah negating the mechanics like using invisibility to sneak behind Bayle to poison him or use that fireball spell behind the Rellana arena... There is absolutely no gaming here, that's cheese.
I don't want to think I cheesed Radahn using just my shield buff and Night Comet, I had to fucking fight for victory. One of the summoned bros even died even when he tanked like a concrete wall. If there's a flaw in the strategy, if there's a weakness it's not cheesing.
But yeah right okay. There are builds against Radahn that make the fight easier, thankfully.
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>>489472952
You can damage old age after parrying it
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i like how every npc in this dlc is just a leftover reject asset from dark souls 2
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>>489472917
60 vigor
radagon soreseal
end for heavy armor
bleed
10 hefty fetid pots
there you go king
>>489472952
i thought i had it for some time but i guess i didn't so you're just bad honestly
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>>489473329
>RL 80 with a soreseal
That's a bad idea.
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>>489473329
>i thought i had it for some time but i guess i didn't so you're just bad honestly
my mom had it pretty bad so I was doomed from the start, when my fingers hurt too much to move I am going to shoot myself in the face
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My anon is a just and righteous Lord, right? My anons would not kill innocent people because it slightly inconvenient him, right?
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>>489473691
>"""merchants"""
>innocent
Nice try Shabriri
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>>489473691
I don't kill them because I like there to be living NPCs in the world, but they do deserve to die
>b-but we just summoned the frenzy flame because they accused us of that
Hornsent-tier
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i like how they programmed moore's pots to proc rot on you even when they miss. cool gank fight miyazaki
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Rya transformed not into a serpent, but a bad girl!
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>>489473998
disgusting fanart
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>>489474165
The look suits her
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>first phase malenia on 5% hp
>break stagger and riposte her
>now on 0 hp
>start relaxing a little bit
>suddenly she's still alive
>smack her again
>she's still alive
>waterfowls and insta kills me
What's going on? She had 0 HP left after the riposte and then I smacked her again and she just poised through it and waterfowled me to death.
Is this why she has never known defeat? Because she literally cheats?
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>>489472821
it's rather terrible compared to poisoned hand. it needs comparable damage, and it won't effect pvp other than make it more viable.
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>>489474304
turn off your mods retard
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>>489473776
>>489473958
They literally didn't du nothing. What the merchants did was mere retaliation, and rightly so
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>>489474365
Poisoned Hand doesn't cause eternal sleep and instakill things.
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>>489474426
I'm not modding in anyway.
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>>489474426
It's a known bug, happened to me twice yesterday as well
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>>489475297
>no patch to fix that or chainsaw after 3 aeons
elden ring was made by a skeleton crew of 3 japanese guys, they have recently passed away due to overwork and we have hired overseas programmers from india to implement future patches
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Charo's+Cerulean should have had some death-related deity as the final boss, Putrescent knight is such a disapppointment
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>>489468371
Seamless felt like legitimate bullying
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>>489475784
Lamenter is the best boss in the game
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>Miquella
>is mine and mine alone
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I had no idea brapparts roar changed r2s on some weapons
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Alright I have 450 hours in this game, beaten it 5 times, and now I'm bored. Either I go play DS3 to clean my palate a little or maybe you can give me your favorite build/weapon to try for another playthrough because I'm running out of ideas here.
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>>489475868
Yeah it definitely feels like clubbing baby seals sometimes but I’ve had my fair share of really fun fights (and ganks)
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>>489455131
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>>489475784
The mariner that summons a revenant wasn't enough?
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>>489476050
shortbow
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>>489476050
int/fai incantations+sorceries caster
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>>489476050
I’ve had a lot of fun with DEX/FAI this playthrough doing a dragon cult theme
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If fromsoft released a Boss Rush mode DLC for 5.99 would you buy it?
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>>489475965

>>489476521
mods are free bro
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>>489476050
I had the same thought when I played ds3 a lot. Had to go back to bloodborne I was so sick of 3. Not a bad game. Just got bland for me quicker than most fromsoft games
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>>489476403
Dex/Fai huh? Interesting combo, what weapon are you rocking?
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>>489476592
I put 260 hours into DS3 and I thought that was a lot
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>>489474304
I was fighting her yesterday and for some reason she only dies if you hit her with direct damage. I tried riposting and rotting her but both didn't kill until I hit her
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>>489476521
>....realease.... Boss Rush
yes
>...buy it?
no
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>>489476614
nta, but there are multiple ways to do dex/fai, one of them is a godskin build: godslayer gs, stitcher and peeler + godskin incantations
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>>489476614
Mostly bolt of gransax — leda’s sword also works well with the stat spread. Honorable mention to vyke’s and godslayer greatsword although I haven’t used them much on this character
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Wish you could dye armor
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Alright I've done enough "powerful" builds. What was the most FUN build you've done /erg/?
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>>489476614
not that guy, but I've also gone dex/faith for my 2nd character. currently running powerstanced urumi's with endure aow, gravel seal and an assortment of incantations. been pretty solid for pve and surprisingly great at pvp. that r1 rollcatch with electrify armament/fgms fucks
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>>489477302
1) Deflect Tear
2) Shortbow
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>hear about Mohg waiting for Miquella to wake while feeding him accursed blood to corrupt him
>imagine he's waiting crouched by Miquella's cocoon and intently observing their motionless body
>see a /vg/ schizopost about how Mohg is raping Miquella because it's called "Bloody Bedchamber" and references old euphemism
>scoff and be assured it's merely just a Formless Mother reference like everything else
>get to Bloody Bedchamber
>it couldn't be more obvious that Mohg is raping Miquella's body
Using the name of the area as your evidence is retarded, the visual couldn't hit you any harder over the head.
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>>489477308
fag
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>>489477552
>losing to fucking WHIPS

lol

lmao even

stop rolling nigger
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>>489477452
Miquella was literally asking for it though
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Trapped in a playthrough I don't care for to get an achievement.
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>>489476772
I have over a thousand
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>>489477940
Miquella can't consent, he's underage
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>>489475868
>you see bro im a nice invader who is only in your world for a cup of tea and eat picnics and draw pictures of butterflies while you savagely fuck me in the ass with your two password phantoms, muled gear and cleared levels because you view me as nothing but a piece of shit to be beat into submission
you're either cucked beyond all human reasoning or you're a hostcel trying to stop people from leaving live to go to seamless
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>>489478317
He only looks underage.
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I finally beat them, yay
what do I do now though? is there any list of the items that belong to the DLC? I already got every item from the base game so might as well be a completionist before NG+
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>miquella's boss incant only does around ~1400 against an omen instantly then another 700 afterwards
>all correct talismans and such
lol
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>>489478390
He's not literally underage but mentally he is 10. He thinks he can consent though.
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>>489474304
you cant kill her in 1st phase with a riposte for some reason. also, if you manage to deplete her 1st phase lifebar and then instantly enter the riposte animation, it will riposte her in 2nd phase and instantly kill her. has happened to me countless times when getting summoned for co-op. i noticed this doesnt happen when fighting messmer, however. not sure about any other bosses with phase transitions
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>start new game
>run starting class optimizer
>Hero again
Why is Hero so damn good?
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>>489478742
Mohg and Radahn need to go to prison, maybe Godwyn too
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>>489478417
Get the madness talisman from the Abyssal Woods. You have to parry the invincible instakill enemies, then once it's parried you can kill them however you like. Good talisman for when you do a madness build.
Get the Euporia, it's at the end of Enir Ilim, drop down from a ledge, it's a secret area basically. One of if not the most OP weapon in the game.
Get the bigass jar helmet. It's in one gaol.
Get the stone-sheathed sword, and put it in light or darkness (however you want your build).
Get all the sorceries, do the Metyr quest.
Get the satin sword.
That's about it.
Congratulations.
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i like sword of darkness
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>>489479012
>Done
>Done
>Done
>Not yet
>Done
>Done

What about rare enemy drops and all the cookbooks? I still gotta get all thee fragments, I'm at upgrade 18
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"Warning: prohibited alteration to the game was detected

Delete [ERROR] items immediately bla bla..."

What's it mean? How to avoid ban? Just copy clean save to play pvp w/o grinding, no CE or any cheats. Steam cloud turned off.
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i swear, elden ring and dark souls players know nothing except to just regurgitate the same 3 jokes
>try finger, but hole
>dog!
>fort, night
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>>489480171
I want to go home... and then edge
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>>489477452
/erg/ is a no victim blaming zone
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>>489480171
I always enjoy leaving “likely giant but hole” messages around large npcs
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>>489480171
Also, they're use this fortnite joke mostly inappropriately
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>>489480007
Means you're a dirty scumbag cheater and your goose is cooked.
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>>489477452
>>489477940
Miquella was bewitching him. Mohg is also one of the bosses in the base game most weak to stance breaks from behind. Miquella raped him.
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>>489480573
Bro just dont cry
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>put messages pointing at naked girl feet wherever possible
>get healed from them when I need it most during boss battles
just as Miyazaki intended
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>>489479969
If you want to 100% I don't know, I did the most out of it, nevermind the exclusive crafting. There's little reward to exploration, it's a pretty straight-forward DLC which I enjoy. The Bayle quest you have to decide between weapon or summon, and with the stone sword you have to decide if you prefer light or darknes... You'll have to come back if you want the cake and it it too.
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>pre-patch latenna did like tops 280 damage to bayle per burst
>post-patch she does like close to 1080 damage per burst
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>>489480171
You forgot the extremely hilarious gooning and bdsm jokes
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>>489480171
There's been a new one I've only seen since sote
Mist..
Or beast
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How do you guys feel about the theory that the finger slaying blade is responsible for that weird spot infront of metyr
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>>489478914
But it's not. It's only good for arcane builds or for low level twink builds.
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>>489480651
He was Miquellested.
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>>489480775
You're the one crying because you're being spanked for being a little shit.
Shouldn't have been a little shit if you didn't want spanked.
I'm just happy to see you getting slapped.
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there were 6 legacy dungeons in the base game. and you pay 60 dollars which is 10 dollars per legacy.

in the dlc we got 5 legacy dungeons
enir ilim
belurat
castle ensis
midras manse
shadowkeep
that's 8 dollars per legacy.
You better be happy they didn't charge 2 dollars extra, we got a 20% discount!
There are arguments for 16 legacy dungeons in the base compared to 6 in the dlc though. 3.75 dollars per legacy dungeon in the base according to this and 6.67 dollars per legacy dungeon in the dlc.

Also they gave us 100 new weapons to add to the 308 old weapons which has left something to be desired. 19 cents per weapon was the deal in the base game, in the dlc we got 40 cents per weapon. Here they stole 21 cents from us per weapon.

There's also the armor issue, 599 armor in the base game for 10 cents per armor. But 145 armor in the dlc for 28 cents per armor.

You can see the trend though. We're paying 2x to 3x what we should have. This dlc is worth 16 bucks.
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>>489481086
my turret wife
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>>489481356
this is why NFT games are a thing
retarded NPCs try to put a price tag on everything, so they get exploited to work for cents an hour
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>>489481138
>finger slaying is an legendary treasure which allows for the slaying of fingers
> you can slay metyr(mother of fingers made of lot of fingers) without
>if this theory is false, then the blade is pointless, since she is killed without ever using it
>if this theory is true, the blade is usefull, since you only killed metyr after it was used on her
>this is the crime of the eternal cities
I like this one
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>>489473691
Your Tarnished is a Griffith. He'll do anything to sit upon the throne.
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>>489481356
castle ensis and Midra's manse are too small for legacy dungeons
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>>489481340
> You're the one crying
> I'm just happy
lmao, take your meds schizo
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>>489481729
also says on it that it's been used previously to you picking it up
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The stealth section should've been the inside of Midra's Manse and not the big open forest. Make it dark like that catacomb too before you pull the lever.
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What the fuck do you do about Bayle's straight breath? It seems completely random if I get hit by it or not, there's absolutely zero consistency.
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>get to commander gaius
>has I-frames while doing an attack that spans their entire model so you have to do a frame perfect dodge
AAAAAAAAA
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>>489482478
There shouldn't be invincible enemies at all in a game where I can kill the most powerful dragons and demigods in existence.
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>>489481157
Not true, it's best for Strength builds too
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>>489482593
Cheese him, casul
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>They fixed the revered spirit ashes bug
Finally I can actually play the DLC; I don't know how Fromsoft expects me to beat the game without them!
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>>489482114
Wrong. I kill only cunts and stupid fucking retard that jump on my ass as soon as i see them for some fucking reason

The merchants are bros as fuck. Niggas are genuinely glad to see me and then they just sit there and play their chill ass fucking music for me to hear

Look at this shit, how can you kill this motherfucker? He just sold me a fucka ton of shit and then apologized for not having more variety. Easily the nicest and most polite son of a bitch in the Land fucking Between
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Seamless is cute as fuck even in max level range
I would never land that furious blade on vanilla lat
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>>489482741
You can parry them and permanently kill them anon.
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>>489483046
> max level
I'M HAPPY IF YOU WILL GET BANNED FUCKING SCUMBAG CHEATER
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>>489465949
proofs?
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>>489482240
>you make post crying about how to save your ass from being slapped for cheating
>I make post laughing at you saying you get what you deserve
>you make post going "no u mad"
Maybe next time dont make posts crying about how you're being banned for cheating and people won't laugh at you being a dumbass.
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>>489483847
How does it feel to be painfully stupid? Are you even aware of it?
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Also good news to anyone wishing a classic solo playthrough with invasions: you can do it on seamless simply by opening your world to wanderers and keeping it this way.
Far more balanced than vanilla because invader has max estus too.
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>>489483946
It's probably the same seething anon complaining about him getting banned for cheating earlier, and me mocking him for it.
He's just salty and lashing out now.
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>>489483961
>That health bar
Sugoi…
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>>489482513
you run and then try to dodge the little breath that goes out of the main one for no fucking reason other than fuck with you
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>>489483961
how does random matchmaking work for seamless? none of my friends want to play but I like getting summoned since there's no boss rush mode
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>>489484118
Lmao how do you even get banned for cheating...
You can do so much as long as you do it offline
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>>489484189
No random matchmaking aside from invasions unfortunately. My friends also won’t play ER with me — one has been stuck on Godrick for months now and gave up (he has 13 vigor)
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I still like this game and playing it, but I like griefposting about the DLC and what could have been even more. I especially enjoy listening to the Elden Beast's theme so I can stew in my grief at a greater intensity. I think I'll write a fic about a young Malenia to cope.
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>>489484189
I guess to clarify what I'm asking is can I queue and get a bossfight and then queue and get another random bossfight or am I just stuck with the same schmucks and I gotta walk around the open world to the next fight
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>>489484189
Random coop doesn't exist from what i understand. You need to set up a password, and you can only become summoned to wanderers who share the same password.
Maybe author will add functionality later.
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>>489484353
>I like griefposting about the DLC and what could have been even more.
This is me except I only play the game for 10 minutes a day or less
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>>489482513
Honestly I don't know.
Only move of his that I don't really know how to dodge reliably without light roll for the extra distance.
Everything else I can med roll more than comfortably.
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>>489484352
>No random matchmaking aside from invasions unfortunately
Fucking gay. I've already done 3 playthroughs with friends and 1 in seamless. No one else wants to play. I just wanted to be able to get into a world and progress through it for an hour or so until I sever and decide to go to a new co-oper
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>>489484617
Yeah it’s unfortunate, I’ve been trying to get some anons to do a run for a bit now. Seamless is just so much better QOL-wise that I’m really struggling to go back to vanilla.
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>>489484487
Just 30-40 for me recently, but I can still play for hours sometimes too if I decide to get serious about a playthrough. The saddest thing is that this game just makes me want to play more Dark Souls sometimes lmao.
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>>489482752
No, it's not. Most STR weapons require more than 9 dex, and Jar Cannon requires 12. At that point you might as well go Vagabond, unless you need ARC.
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>>489484298
I have no idea how he managed that. Basically only Fia’s panties and straight up stat editing will get you banned as far as I know
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>>489485013
>60 vigor
>80 Strength
>12 dex
>best class: Hero
okay retard
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>>489485293
>base endurance
>base mind
Who is the retard now, retard?
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Why are Jap devs so anal about modding?
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Is 54 STR + 45 ARC a "good" build? What weapons should i use? Blood infusion?
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>>489485985
Fromsoft is chill as fuck about it though? They literally said they are impressed with seamless.
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>>489485293
Retard
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>>489486086
>puts anticheat in pve game that does nothing except detect modified game files
lole
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>>489486245
>pve game
Go back to... No, stay here.
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seriously wtf is with jarring? Like, who the fuck comes up with this shit? It’s like some weird fetish or something, I can’t stop thinking about how disgusting and creepy it is, I guess that’s the point. wtf drives a civilization into doing something like this, on such a mass scale
>hey dude they shaman chicks stick together with other people if you torture and whip them until their skin is all fucked up, let’s put them in jars with other bodies until they turn interactive grotesque abominations in constant pain and agony, and then I’ll watch and jerk off
fascinating culture. Marika did nothing wrong
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>>489486245
Anticheat has nothing to do with modding possibilities. It's their retarded attempt to stop cheating in pvp. You can easily start a game without it.
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>>489485985
I'm straight and my dick twitched when I saw this.
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>>489486549
I’ve got bad news for you anon…
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>>489486181
Wow, so you just proved it is best for the build I just posted?
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>>489486443
>hornsent view horns as divine birthmarks
>shamans can choose to meld these birthmarks on at will, cheapening the hornsent's tie to divinity
>declare them heratics and attack them
>figure since you have all these dead and dying goo boys around you can make your own crucicble out of them
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>>489486636
I'm sorry, indeed I am actually the retard here. I replied to the wrong guy.
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>>489486774
>shamans can choose to meld these birthmarks on at will, cheapening the hornsent's tie to divinity
I wonder if this is connected to Godrick's grafting
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>>489483870
she turns into the same flower model that Millicent turns into in her bad ending, which is stated to result in rebirth. You can also still interact with her in that form by returning the needle.
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>>489486774
hmmm interesting very fascinating such culture much history super cool
so anyway Marika did nothing wrong and honestly she should have killed more
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>>489454902
Ok so i just finished the dlc, I didnt read any item descriptions or watch any videos about the lore or anything i just played it through and this is my interpretation:

Needle knight Leda is a woman with a vagina but she is cursed with a pegging fetish born from intense penis envy. Leda desires to peg a twink and decides to aim high in her goal by entering the lands of shadow In search of the cutest and most famous twink in legend, Miquella the kind. She invites the tarnished along with her because she thinks having some witnesses present for when she takes miquellas anal virginity would be hot, like its a power thing, she wants to show off and such. However, upon reaching the end of big floating castle area Leda is faced with the realization that Miquellas butt has already been buckbroken into a feminine bussy by his consort Rhadahns huge, organic, authentic, genuine, real cock. This of course angers Leda, who lashes out on the tarnished in response. Also I killed Miquella because a purple thing told me to and purple is my favorite color.
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>>489487007
yeah he's a descendent of marika / godfrey so his melding is "diluted" only kinda works

>>489487096
>Marika did nothing wrong
wrongfully punished the people who empowered her
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>>489487210
tldr femdom
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The shamans deserved it. Numen should go back to wherever they came from. The Lands Between doesn't belong to them.
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>Margit/Morgott gives fun fights that nobody complains about for being gimmicky or unfair
>Radahn's fights are gimmicky and/or rely on abusing retarded hit boxes in anti-fun ways
They're really two sides of one coin.
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>>489485879
even with something like 20 mind, or 30 mind, or 30 end or 40 end, Hero and Vagabond are both tied for best for that build

So I guess the retard is you
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>>489487236
>wrongfully punish
Idk if you’re talking about something different, but if you’re talking about the Hornsent, the only wrongful thing about her punishment was that she didn’t punish enough, they survived, missed a few, could have executed better.
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>>489487210
Smartest STRchad.
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>>489487320
>invade another country
>commit blasphemy
>NOOO YOU CAN'T PUNISH US WE DESERVE TO BECOME MOCKERY'S OF DIVINITY
jar all shaman
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>>489487316
Not really. A girl who wants to be on top but then gets cucked by a man doesnt sound very femdom to me. Its a decontruction of femdom.
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>>489487320
Not racis', jus' dun't loike 'em.
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>>489487320
>apparently long lived in exchange for being seldom born
>can fuse with other flesh which can probably be exploited in a number of ways
>have a shamanistic culture connected to trees and nature
They are somewhat of elves of this setting. They did nothing wrong, they are just superior, so they provoked envy of everyone around.
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Now that I killed radahn I think I like his boss fight, I just hate every bit of time memorizing the attack moves.
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What covenants aside from recusants and bloody fingers could have existed hadn't ER shat the bad with the multiplayer?
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>>489488323
Frenzy (Moundmakers)
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>>489462161
The open world is fucking boring, can't believe from fell for the open world meme
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I find the idea of playing any more Elden Ring repulsive. I want to play but I can't bring myself to do it. How do I cure this?
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>>489488323
Unironically if miquella had a covenant that you could only join by dying to his grab that would be epic. I mean they made that whole animation and "heart stolen" screen, it would be cool if it was more than just a fancy game over
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>>489488323
Leyndell Loyalists (Invade players that have recently used invasion tools)
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>>489488323
The Golden Covenant (enables invasions all the time, cannot summon, cannot challenge bosses when invaded, cannot see messages by people not in the golden covenant)
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>all shamans in jars look like frail white haired boys/girls
>potentantes thoroughly enjoyed what they did
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>>489488539
Miquella's Cumdumps (Can invade and aid Leda's team)
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I wonder if theres concept art for the dlc map out there
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>>489486458
No it's because of that faggot Luke Yui who showed that there was a possible serious exploit that only he knew how to do and showed it on stream with people he knew. Then From panicked shut down online for all PC Souls games and immediately forced EAC into Elden Ring.
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>>489488323
futanari warriors:
Can only join with female body type, covenant item causes character to sprout a huge bulge thats visible with any armor. Increases all damage by 20% but locks you into a fat roll because of the weight of the futa cock. Its an invasion covenant but if you kill the host your character does a special animation where she rapes the host in the butt and cums inside and it says on the screen "futacock satisfied">>489488421
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Was hoping for more (if any) mention of Malenia in the dlc, or even a slight change to her cutscene
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>>489490116
domo origato for the $40, sucker
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>>489488535
Stop being a faggot.
All problems solved.
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>>489490116
I was hoping for basically any connection to the base game.
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>>489487434
Morgott is the hero Elden Ring deserves, but not the one it needs.
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>>489486774
>>489486443
There is that one ghost that says
>For pity's sake, your place is in the jar. Nigh-sainthood itself awaits you within. For shamans like you, this is your lot. Life were you accorded for this alone.
Also innard meat item descriptions
>This is what becomes of the condemned, who get sliced up and stuffed into jars to become saints instead.

My headcanon is that the hornsent saw the shamans as inferior for not having horns, but they noticed the shamans' unique trait of being able to meld with other flesh, so they figured that the shaman race was created for the sole purpose of being ingredients for the hornsent's own mini crucibles. Thus, shamans who got jarred would be honored with sainthood for their noble sacrifice.
Perhaps the hornsent even thought they were doing the shamans a favor by elevating them to a higher state of being through jarring.
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>>489462161
Animations. It's been brought up as a pro by certain anons that your character still moves and attacks like a clumsy hollow while your enemies are now sleek and efficient killing machines, but I feel that it's a problem. Your character will never have a fraction of the coolness your foes have. It feels like the bosses and my character are from two different games. Compare this to Dark Souls, Bloodborne, and Sekiro where your player animations matched up with the "feel" of the enemy animations so the field felt more "even." Like a good Hunter never felt that far behind Maria, and a good Sekiro could style all over Genichiro. You never felt like an NPC in these games like you do in ER.

Balance. The game is either too easy or too hard. When I say too hard, I don't mean its unbeatable, I mean that it's not fun to learn. Either you blow through the boss using mimic/Tiche and an OP build, or you spend hours tearing your hair out on lategame/DLC bosses. My first playthrough of ER was as a solo sword and board (medium shield) knight build, and I can't say I had a lot of fun with some of the later bosses. In general, I think bosses should have more health and do less damage. I also think flasks should be faster. Right now, it's very frustrating to learn some of these difficult attack animations because you die too quick and can't recover from mistakes, even when wearing the heaviest armor sets. At the same time, you kill some of these bosses so quick yourself that you might not even get to see their full repertoire.

Camera. Many fights become a confusing mess because the camera is way too close to your character. Like I'm fighting a moderately sized enemy that's flopping around. When I get in melee range with the thing, I can only see maybe a third of its body. I end up having to read the attacks of this thing based off of its gut movements. This is the most depressing one for me. Many bosses like ulcerated tree spirit are actually fun with the FOV raised.
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>>489491274
balance is by far yhe biggest issue
they dropped the ball with it
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>>489462161
75% of the game is a boring, pointless open world with nothing to do besides pick flowers and find the next copy paste catacombs, ruins, forts, etc. the game has great endgame bosses, and great dlc bosses, but thats about it. the game actively hates you for playing it unless you are on your first playthru. if you are one of the people who likes to play souls games over and over again fast, well fuck you, because all you will be doing is riding the gay horse around til you reach leyndell
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>>489455131
My faith/strength skeleking build
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>>489491576
>conveniently forgets about the Power Within that gave you 40% UNIVERSAL damage buff, the fact DMB/SLB were pants on head more retardedly powerful than any ER weapon buff, as well as dragon torso stone for additional 25% damage
Nigger bitch, DS1 is by far the nastiest souls game when it comes to power creep. A single Power Within is stronger than all body buffs you can apply at once. I'm not even talking about DS1 rtst
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Bro this never gets old.
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>>489491576
I hate this picture.
Just throw on the full set of Havel and now you don't even need to stack any buffs and can beat every without needing to dodge.
Havel's is the ultimate power creep. Combine with something like a black knight weapon like the halberd and you're even stronger than anything else.
Now you can also do all of this with Darkmoon Blade and Power Within (which lol doesn't require any stats because pyromancy so every build can use it)
So you can just face tank bosses without needing to roll and kill them in seconds.
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Goddamn this weapon deals so much poise damage... Easiest fight ever combined with the deflect tear.
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>>489492056
>>489492253
the pic is average builds niggers
the er side also omits a lot of "staples" like bullgoat set, moonveil, rob, mimic, etc...
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souls PvP peaked at the havel monsters
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>>489491274
>character still moves and attacks like a clumsy hollow
The sad thing is that your tarnished very clearly is capable with weapons like katanas, light greatswords, and the (Banished) knight's greatsword. Why the hell is he still smashing the other greatswords into the ground like a retard when he can actually use the knight's greatsword properly?
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>>489481686
those are just third worlders making a decent wage in their own currencies

>>489482225
still count
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>>489492607
>average build
>average build uses perfume
>average build stacks buffs
You're a fucking retard if you think average builds stack buffs. I only ever see people using FMGS or Golden Vow.
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>>489492607
>average
You listed literally everything of note to the right. You didn't even try shit to the left.
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>>489492875
He's just a disingenuous faggot who's either shitposting or a nostalgia bait shitter.
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>>489488323
I mean really there should've been multiple. Either for specific regions, or very specific areas.
>Caelid Redmanes for southern Caelid
>Bandits for Limgrave
>Carian Loyalists who invade in the castle
>Recusants for all over Gelmir
>Golden Order for Leyndell
>Miquella's Blades for Haligtree
DLC Covenants could be like Drake Cult for the mountain, Fingers for the three finger ruins, and Messmer Loyalists for shadow keep
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>>489492852
I haven't used FGMS or golden vow because I know they'll run out by the time I swing the sword more than 3 times
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>>489492852
yes? every host I get summoned by in coop stacks at least 5 of those buffs before going into the fog wall
>>489492875
there is nothing else to note to the left, unless you consider a heroics build average
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>>489492607
>1 spell slot and unupgraded pyro glove
>can be used by virtually ANYONE, gives buffs to ANYTHING including sorcery damage
>you now have +40% damage for 100-150 seconds
This is literally the most average buff in the entire franchise. It's also the most broken. Stop cherrypicking nigger.
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Just made a new character to CE in ever weapon in the game to do some testing, and boy howdy Backhand Blade really does slap. Red Bear's Claw was also very impressive

Things that surprisingly do not slap:
Sword of Night and Flame
Dark Moon Greatsword
Fire Knight Greatsword
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>>489493117
>there is nothing else to note to the left
You're in a general that played the shit out of DS1. Who are you trying to trick? Shut up and never post your shitty image ever again.
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>>489491576
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is there a damage scaling spike in consecrated snowfields, everything hits like a tank here
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>>489491274
>Animations
You're animations are supposed to be shit. You compensate for it with your player skill. Git gud.

>Balance
Balance is fine. You make your own difficulty. Just git good.

>Camera
The camera is as much of a skill as any other mechanic. People fall into the bad habit of leaving the lockon engaged for the whole battle when this is a trap. You're supposed to know when to unlock it. Look at the webm. The player knew when to unlock his camera and it made the dancing lion way more easy. Basically, git gud.
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>>489490116
We have three cutscenes of "Radahn is my consort" instead, u rike?
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>>489492238
What's the max damage I can get out of dragonmaw, and is it the highest hitting dragon communion incant?
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>>489493351
>magic
again, that is not listed in either side
elden ring magic completely outclasses ds1 magic
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>>489493552
>animations are supposed to be shit
>balance is fine
>camera is as much of a skill as any other mechanic
Oh look, we have Miyazaki, a FromSoft employee here. Say hi, everyone!
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>yo this pvp is fire fr
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>>489493789
>again, that is not listed in either side
You listed two magic buffs to the right.
>elden ring magic completely outclasses ds1 magic
Elden ring magic is strong mechanically, but it will NEVER even remotely approach the damage of a proper DS1 caster setup, not in a million lives.
Every orb of this nasty thing deals 1.1x damage of your mag adjustment + flat physical damage, you fire a total 7 of them, it's literally stronger than the entire volley of comet azur with every single cast
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>>489493789
Bosses are also way better at dealing with mages in ER, so your relative power in ER is actually lower.
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Using a shield is cheating end of story
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>>489487434
>Morgott is an interesting character who has well defined motivations, a compelling tragedy, and a decently built up connection to the player
>in lore he's a complete nobody who will never be recognized but his strength and nobility is readily apparent just from his design, dialogue, and natural implication of his defense of Leyndell
>Radahn has no discernible motives or character besides being wanked as the coolest guy ever, even when brought back again he's still boring
>all of his lore revolves around how he's the coolest and nicest guy ever, yet we're only told that by other people and nothing really supports that given that he has done nothing but lose and is a literal warlord
I hate Radahn
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>>489493552
But why are the animations supposed to be shit? Why not make them actually feel fun, and not like shit?
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>>489494293
and there is a magic buff to the left, what is your point?
and to your second point... I think you might have a skill issue, just like >>489494321
proper caster builds in elden ring can kill bosses in less than 5 seconds
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>>489494293
Don't forget anon, he's also not mentioning Pyromancy from DS1 either.
Being able to throw pyromancy on literally every character because of the 0 stat requirement and it scaling purely from your pyro glove made pyro builds just disgusting. You could make a generic strength character and immediately improve your character by sticking on some great combustions/blackflames or firestorms on it.
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>>489493675
I'm not sure what the thought process even was behind the last cutscene, it feels like it was supposed to be used for a plot-twist halfway through the DLC but they just threw it in at the end because they didn't know what the fuck to do with it.
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>>489493501
General consensus yes
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>>489493552
>It's supposed to be bad!
Shut up moron.
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boss fights last 2 minutes, buffs last like 30 seconds

why do people buff?
also people buff themselves with 100 buffs for 30+ seconds, some of their buffs run out before they even hit them
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>>489494780
is 45 vig enough for this stage of the game?
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>>489494689
I think it was supposed to be tragic "look how Miquella's plans for a gentle world failed you monster" grimslop only you already know this and Miquella is so underdeveloped there's no pathos behind it
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>>489494560
>insane base values, buffed further by the insane combination of crown of dusk, bellowing dragoncrest and power within
>skill issue
You don't know a fucking thing about DS1
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>>489494912
i cast golden vow and fgms until i get tired of waiting 10 secs each time
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>>489494918
Yeah. Some might say it's too much.
I prefer 35 vigor so I can wear the sore seal
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>>489494912
that's 25% of the fight that is quite a big window
and as to your question, the same reason people level to 300+ despite it being not necessary to beat the game, because they are bad
but do not dare try to call them bad, their lv330 boss kill is just as impressive as your lv150 one because you didnt do it lv1 dagger only
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>>489494560
With the right setup, you can dump a ton of dps in the first couple of seconds of the fight, but actually dancing with bosses as a solo mage is hard mode. For most bosses, the only time I could get off my spells was after I’d guard broken or parried the boss.
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>>489494912
Because in those 30 seconds you can deal pretty big damage to bosses.
FGMS on a fire build makes you insanely strong for those 30 seconds. If you use that on Malenia you can pretty easily beat Malenia in the first phase, then when she enters phase 2 and starts off with the scarlet aeonia attack that gives you enough time to recast both FGMS and Golden Vow.
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>>489494918
40 Vigor is the soft cap. I suggest you respect 5 points into Endurance. At this point you get the most out of damage negation and HP %increase, so go for talismans Dragoncrest Greatshield, *drake, Favor, Crimson Amber. Cast the appropriate defense buff incantation. Equip Morgott's great rune.
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Is there any reason to not run Blood instead of Keen for Backhand Blade?
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>>489494481
Cause it makes the game more difficult.
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>>489495421
Backhand Blades are gay.
Bleed is gay.
Do you want to be a double faggot?
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>>489495465
No, it only makes the game look like outdated crap.
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>>489495421
yeah if you're a damage faggot instead of realizing that status always trump's damage
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>>489493552
>The animations and balance and camera are supposed to be shit. You compensate for it with spirit summons and status effects and buff stacking and greatshield poking. Git gud.
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>>489495421
Some bosses and enemies are immune to bleed, or it's more effective to target their elemental weaknesses than to bleed them.
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>>489495368
>>489495264
alright thanks lads
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NO MIYAZAKI. I WILL NOT KILL RYA JUST BECAUSE SHE DROPS EXTRA RUNES
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>>489496319
They’re trolling you anon, most people are at 60 vig by then
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>>489496369
her mothers lore is so good, just a slag who went around shagging anything giving birth to all sorts of abominations
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man spirit summons makes bayle freak the fuck out and just have no fucking clue who to target, more so than any other boss i've seen in the dlc
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which character is "fake tan hands and a hoop"
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>>489494478
you dont rike, gaijin?
dont rike cock in bussy?
no understand, why?
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>>489496369
Bruh she's a recruiter for the recusants. She's as evil as Varré. Killing her is doing everyone a favor.
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>>489497592
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>>489494478
Yes, but did you know that Radahn learned gravity magic to ride his horse?
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>>489496784
No doubt the same person responsible for Fia and Dung Eater came up with that. (Miyazaki)
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>>489496784
sounds like my sister
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man i love fighting bayle, it's so much fun when he does his big 3 ultimate attacks one after another, 3 times in a row :) i enjoy battling something i'm not allowed to go close to because miyazaki needs to have his dragon autism put into video games :)
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>>489496498
most players are a bunch of basedfaced losers.

but now that the dlc is lategame, snowfield is now midgame and level 80 is midgame
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>>489494478
Sad that hardly anyone knew who Morgott even was, given his title of veiled monarch, and all of his accomplishments in battle were attributed to Margit.
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>OH! HELLO THERE, RACIST_ARYAN_INCEL1488!
>IT IS I, gayfurrypedotranny1995 THAT SHALL BE YOUR DUELLING PARTNER TODAY
>I HAVE DECIDED TO TAUNT YOU INTO OUR WORLD TO HAVE AN HONORABLE AND EPIC DUELLING SESSION WHILE MY WIFE'S TWO BOYFRIENDS SPECTATE US!
>BEFORE WE BEGIN, I MUST ASK THAT YOU ENGAGE IN THIS ENCOUNTER HONORABLY AND REFUSE TO HEAL, AS PER THE RULES OF THE GAY TRANNY ATHEISTS NATIONAL CONVENTION OF AMERICA GUIDELINES, SECTION 17, CLAUSE 3 - CONCERNING TAUNTFAGGOT INVASION DUELS, WHICH CLEARLY OUTLINE THAT ONLY I MAY HEAL WHEN GETTING LOW, AND THAT YOU MAY NOT, UNDER ANY CIRCUMSTA-
>AIEEE WAIT YOU AREN'T SUPPOSED TO ATTACK ME YET I WAS MONOLOGUING NOOOOOOOOOOOO
>JAMAL! DAQUARIUS! YOU FUCKING GOOD FOR NOTHING NIGGERS! FUCKING GET THIS RACIST NAZI AIEEE GET HIM OFF ME NOOOOOO YOU STUPID FUCKING NIGGERS THAT WAS YOUR CUE TO BACK ME UP I CAN'T WIN THIS DUEL HELP ME JAMA-ACK
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>>489498814
you're not allowed to get close?
where's your fingerprint shield?
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>>489497701
I refuse.
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>/pol/chud greentext LARP
Did not read.
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the fact that they still havent given you a way to replay bosses is criminal
>dude just play the 9001 hour game over again!
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>>489499378
They don't need to. Just CE them alive again.
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I want truly broken shit like demons souls l1 > push loop TOD and dark souls 1 ninjaflip again...
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>>489499378
that and they don't let us host if all the bosses are dead
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>>489499213
i am level 30
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>>489499378
Chuds hated Dark Souls 2 so nothing cool from that game is allowed to be in the series ever again.
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>>489499281
meant for >>489499152
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>>489499520
i hated ds2 but it did have some good ideas and systems. there was just no redeeming the core gameplay.
>>489499429
>dude just get your account banned from online
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>>489499378
Being able to replay bosses would have ruined Demon's Souls but given that this game is just Sekiro Souls it's bizarre not to include the feature since the bosses are the selling point of From's games now. This game really doesn't seem to know what it wants to be.
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>The game is supposed to look and control like shit when you're playing against a boss
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>>489499378
>want to fight Godfrey again
>have to replay the whole game
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Did consort rahdoodoo cheese get patched yet?
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>>489499675
>make backup
>do whatever the fuck you want
>revert backup
If you just want to constantly replay the bosses then you could easily do this. Unless you want to replay bosses with others which I don't see the point of doing that.
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>>489499378
If they do that less people will queue to be summoned
If less people queue to be summoned, less dipshits will progress/complete the game
If dipshits can't progress/complete the game they won't buy the next one

Stupid people drag us all down again, please support my rise to Tyrant King of Earth and I will implement eugenics
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>wanted to do a fun run
>reach faggot McBackstep McJumpy McOneShotty

No fun allowed. Game over.
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So what's the deal with all the charred corpse bushes in the underground cities? What happened to them?
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>>489499725
to me it seems like the game was 100% designed with the normie's first playthru in mind. which is fine, it worked, they sold 20m or whatever. but ng+ cycles suck ass and are a huge inconvenience and waste of time. they paid no attention whatsoever to the style of player that was their core audience in the first place. the appeal was always in playing the game over and over and being able to do things quickly. completely botched
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>>489499479
okay where's your black steel great shield?
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>>489499984
Raped by miquella
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>>489499378
The fact that their keeping the Twitter account active makes me think they have at least 1 more big update in the works and we know from Sekiro that they are fully aware of people wanting a boss rush so there's still a chance we could get it.
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>>489499841
Boss revival should put you in an instance at start of area, force you to re-play map. EG if you wanna respawn Malenia you start at Prayer Room with no shortcuts unlocked. So can experience full area coop and invasions again. If you wanna respawn Godrick you start at Behinning of Stormveil.

With all enemies given same area-scaling as Ashen Capital on your current NG cycle. So it’s actually hard. But rune items and smithing stone drops are scaled up to be high tier. And enemy random drops are boosted rarity. Certain loot obviously doesn’t respawn though.
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>>489470752
https://www.tarnished.dev/weapon-calculator

do it yourself YOU STUPID FUCKING SHITHEAD RETARD
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>>489500062
that thing isn't gonna do anything against bayle
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>>489499675
>>dude just get your account banned from online
dumbass just start the game from the exe in the game folder, it will run in offline, CE the bosses in, and go back online. It will not ban you.
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Why does the Bayle talisman boost magma sorceries?
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>>489455131
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>>489501027
why not
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>>489501056
tried using that darkness incant on a rogue character and it sucked
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>>489499479
why are you complaining about Bayle at level 30
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Someone explain, from a game design standpoint, why I have to cycle through my memory slots in order one by one to pick the spell I want instead of being able to assign spell slots to hotkeys, or instead of having something like a radial menu like other modern games do.
Is this too a decision made because my tarnished is a retard who can't recall more than one spell at a time?
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>>489489520
So it's confirmed shadows is the missing center and suppressing tower is at the center with Farum Azula sitting on top a la DS2.
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>>489501027
I guess they wanted to throw magma builds a bone but couldn't figure out a lore appropriate way to do it since Gelmir had nothing to do with the dlc
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>>489501295
can you bind cycling to scroll wheel?
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>>489501143
Bayle doesn’t even use Magma, he uses “Flame Lightning” which is exclusive to Bayle and 2 random drakes.

I think idea may have been that Jagged Peak is a volcano(?) so Bayle has some tenuous connection to Magma, but that’s a stretch.
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>>489501475
Dunno but I bound it to 1 and 2
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Miquella's succulent armpits.
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>>489499846
Maliketh is so fucking easy to dodge and is probably the best base game boss fight in the game.
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>The Bayle talisman actually buffs Taker's Flame
Wtf did they really nerf takers flame just to release a talisman that restores it back to where it was?
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>>489501634
godfrey is my fave boss in the base game but only on ng+ and later. way too weak on ng
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>>489501268
It's good after a backstab. I've used it in duels in arena but it's kinda a gimmick and doesn't do anything.
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>>489501295
This is my biggest issue. A hold button shortcut menu for spells like they did with items would go a long way, but that would be slightly similar to kingdom hearts control scheme and would make the autistic purists flip a shit and call it "disneyslop" or "shortcutslop" something similar.
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I wonder how many times Thiollier has jerked off to St. Trina
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host got invaded while i was fighting rellana and was able to enter the boss room. i see the "invaded" message during boss fights all the time but they normally cant get in. what gives?
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>>489502198
Tis a bug, I've seen it happen with Radagon too.
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>>489502175
Nah he lucid-wet-dreams.
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>>489502198
I also would like to know because right now when i invade while host is fighting a boss i use flame of the fell god through the door. If i could find out how to enter the boss room that would really help my invasions and i wouldnt need to take that spell anymore
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>>489502001
I doubt fromsoft cares what retards on 4chan think
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>start new game
>CE in everything for my next build
Only way to play at this point after 500 hours
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>>489499378
He decided to say fuck Bonfire Ascetics in the game that needs them more than Dark Souls 2 does.
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What exactly is the primeval current and why does anyone who try to study it either get crystallized or turn into a graven mass?
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>>489503092
It's something akin to 'the reality of the universe'. Imagine all those weird cosmic questions like 'why does anything exist at all?', 'if space is finite but unbounded what does the edge look like?', 'how did the universal constants get their values?'. Now imagine you stare into this current and you become aware of the answers to all of those questions. It's too much for a human mind to handle at once, our monkey brains didn't evolve to even grasp these concepts, but they're forced in regardless. The trauma of it makes people go insane. Insane people do wild things like turn themselves into crystals or graven masses.
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I sure do love the performance in the DLC being dogshit for no discernible reason.
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>>489503921
>DLC runs okay except for the Metyr arena where it nearly crashes and I have to restart several times
>Base game always spergs the fuck out and lowers fps to like 5 at Leyndell
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>>489504213
You're insane. I ran solid 60 with no issues throughout the whole base game and 700 hours of multiplayer but look at a fucking waterfall in the DLC and my framerate plummets. Just fought Rellana and every time one of her stupid swords would light up my game would turn into a slideshow.
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>>489502853
80% of the fun is trying to beat the game to finish the level 20 invader build.
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>>489504213
liar.
base game has solid 60 fps, dlc has 45-30 to 25 on my steam deck
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Are the Red Bear Claws a "beat the game" weapon?
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>>489503092
This >>489503464 but also It's the very essence of the Greater Will that all things spawned from
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>>489504948
i didn't use it, so no
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>>489500885
WHERE'S YOUR REDMAIN GREAT SHIELD?
70% fire defence
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>>489504948
all ydbtg fags are basically strfaggots so yes
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How do I tell whether I can buff up before a fight in PVP or not
Is there some sort of way of communicating it?
I remember drinking a physick before a fight in pvp, the dude didn't and did some sort of gesture that looked like he was mad at me
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>>489504496
>>489504895
I dunno, I guess it's just AMD sperging out or something
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>>489505802
do it
if they don't want to fight against buffs they can bring law of regression
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>>489484118
> mocking
Yea, mocking, sure
>>489484298
> Lmao how do you even get banned for cheating...
Its just a warning without ban itself. How do you imagine hardban just for copy clean non-ce saves?
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>>489502853
Based.
*777 played hours*
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>"O' lightless creature, embrace thine oblivion as shall I"
KIIIIINNNNOOOOOOOO
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>>489502924
Marika was a fivehead huh
the bottom two are non-canon
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>>489508236
What happened to "a serpent never dies"?
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>>489508236
I can't believe this artist decided his head was too big and his legs weren't skinny enough.
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>>489488323
something like the rat covenant for catacombs or hero's graves would be cool, maybe not that specific gimmick but something that invades in mini dungeons in a unique way would've added a lot imo
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You will never be a real co-oper. You have no Small Golden Effigy, you have no friends, you have no passwords. You are a Hunter twisted by a Blue Cipher Ring and loneliness into a crude mockery of PVP perfection.

All the “validation” you get is two-faced and half-hearted. Behind your back Hosts mock you. Your allies are disgusted and ashamed of you, your “friends” laugh at your blueish appearance behind the roundtable hold.

Reds are utterly repulsed by you. Thousands of hours of invading have allowed Reds to sniff out Blues with incredible efficiency. Even Blues who “win” look uncanny and unnatural to a Red. Your armor and weapons are a dead giveaway. And even if you manage to kill a noob invader, he’ll turn tail and bolt of Gransax the second he gets a whiff of your diseased, infected Radahn helm.

You will never be happy. You wrench out a fake smile every single morning and tell yourself it’s going to be ok, but deep inside you feel the depression creeping up like a weed, ready to crush you under the unbearable latency.

Eventually it’ll be too much to bear - you’ll buy a rope, tie a noose, put it around your neck, and plunge into the cold abyss. Your parents will find you, heartbroken but relieved that they no longer have to live with the unbearable shame and disappointment. They’ll bury you with a Walking Mausoleum marked with your character name, and every tarnished for the rest of eternity will know a Blue is buried there. Your body will decay and go back to your world, and all that will remain of your legacy dungeon is a summon that is unmistakably Blue.

This is your fate. This is what you chose. There is no turning back.
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rate the drip
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>>489508236
You know I wasn't really interested neither liked or disliked Messmer pre dlc release. After and during his fight, his voice, voice lines and lore, I ended up becoming an admirer.
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>>489508781
What the fuck am I looking at?
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>>489508446
Base Serpent Messmer isn't a real serpent. The Abyssal Snake is a fake. You need proof? Serpent-Hunter doesn't fucking work in his fight.
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>CE has a Lantern always on toggle
>somehow still not patched in to the game
I've wanted this feature for years
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>>489501391
That map is one of the old "this is the initial idea we had" map, like this old DS3 map.
Before some of the changes that happened to the layout of the world over the dev cycle.
In that one, where the Land of Shadow would be looks like a big impact crater, which is why people thought the centre of the map was where Elden Beast crashed
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HE SAID NO PICKLES -radahn
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What was Messmer's plan for when he was finally done deleting all the hornsent?
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>>489508781
post some drip first
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>>489509070
He wasn't tasked with deleting them, he was tasked with endless subjugation/torture.
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>>489509049
Why didn’t we side with Miquella? Is divesting yourself make you evil?
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>>489510008
He tore out a part of himself capable of love (St. Trina)
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how much vigor is needed for capital invasions?
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>>489510068
40 at lvl 90 and 60 for anything higher.
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If I want to cold infuse a spear, what options do I have besides Clayman's Harpoon and Cross Naginata?
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>>489510068
I know some who swear by 60 vigor at any level. They invade at 60 vigor and minimum stat requirements for their chosen weapon. They do pretty good but invasions take forever.
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>>489510430
then 51 is the lowest level you can be with that kind of build and it won't have the stats to use anything
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>>489510369
Pike. Longest range.
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>>489510594
They play at level 60 and use basic weapons. It's not for everyone I admit but It works for what it is.
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>>489510008
Because he's evil in general.
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The truest good boi of the family.
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>>489510064
But even before then, he got Caelid scarlet rotted, abandoned the haligtree, never stopped Mohg from doing the blood cult shit, etc. What's the difference between his previous sociopathy?
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>>489510369
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>>489511049
>has to die to not be an asshole like everyone else in his incest family
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I wish I was marika so I could go fuck myself
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>>489511275
>Apparently is a major manipulative shithead who causes problems
>Gets rid of all his good traits
>Now he just wants peace
Really good story telling like the rest of the dlc
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In serious need of a Miquella/Leda mommy shota doujinshi rn
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>>489510369
Smith script spear

>>489510796
do you need 60 vigor?
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>>489508946
>game has support for all light sources casting dynamic shadows
>somehow not patched into the game as an experimental option for no reason

>>489508781
0/10
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>>489511275
Honestly the fact miquella's tryna unrot people at caelid i think malenia solely did the scarlet rotting heck. It could even be interpreted that miquella st trina'd malenia right after she did it hence why they fell alseep there but not against us. So its not his fault he never wanted his sister's rot to progress he wanted her to use her own skill but malenia wanted to give birth instead cuz she's a sore loser.
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>shoot enchanted shot
>hide in bush
>shoot enchanted shot
>hide on top of furniture
>shoot enchanted shot
>hide in corner
>shoot enchanted shot
>backstab the now incredibly annoyed host
simple as
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>>489512217
Miquella is the mommy.
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>>489512306
Not really. It's not the usual way people make builds but serves who I'm talking about well. You're extremely limited in weapon variety in the level 60-90 range cause so much goes into vigor and your damage is pretty poor but you basically have a boss health bar. They rarely die and most hosts have like 700hp anyways so low damage isn't all that bad. It works but it's probably more fun at 40 vigor for the 60-90 range.
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>>489488768
that'd be based as shit.
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>>489512685
based
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>>489512562
I still blame Miquella because he had other support like Needle Knights who could've helped fight Radahn. He could've charmed Mohg into attacking first. He just bet on Malenia and Cleanrots wholesale without giving any more support until she bloomed because they were stalemating.
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>>489500461
>THEY LITERALLY SECRETLY ALTERED TEXT DESCRIPTIONS OF CERTAIN ITEMS and added a chair to rellana's arena so there is a chance they could save the lore but they dont want to it seems.
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>>489512973
At that level it's pretty boring to not engage with 90% of the weapons and spells.
sometimes points are better served in endurance than vigor though.
like 55 vigor and +5 endurance might be better than 60 vigor.

or not?
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Maybe they should've made Miquella abandon his rune behind a boss or opening a door rather than approach the shadow keep. So easy to accidentally break countless sidequests.
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You fags about to get your butt pumped? Why are you a fag now?
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>>489513195
why didnt he charm radahn and tell him to kill himself. inb4 people say muh great rune. Mohg also has a greatrune dipshits.
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This is how I Miquella.
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>>489510008
cuz he gayt
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>>489513336
You're probably right. I don't even do this regularly, just follow someone who does and swears by it. At 60 to 90 I use 40 vigor and spread the remainder between endurance and whatever my primary damage stat is. Doing it the way they do feels much different because you're so tanky so I'd maybe recommend trying it out but it's not how I'd personally recommend you make a build. Just wanted to offer an alternative way to approach a mid-level invasion build.
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>middle of fighting consort Radahn
>Radahn dying
>Mohg's soul returns
>nothing protecting Miquella from Formless Mother who chooses Miquella like Scarlet Rot chose Malenia
>Mohg reclaims his stronger than ever body
>THE MOHGWYN DYNASTY RISES!
>I KNEW MIQUELLA LOVED ME, JUST NOT THIS MUCH!
>Miquella completely confused and unable to do anything as Mohg incorrectly assumes he did everything for Mohg to become a god
>Formless Mother craves wounds
>Mohg still spewing blood after death pleases her
>picking a fight becomes the whole reason this happens
>it's all Miquella's fault for starting the fight and bringing no unalloyed gold
>"Sweet fuck, I had everyone's corpses including Messmer's fresh corpse. Why the hell did I grab the insane blood god worshiper?"
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>>489510008
Because you've already been charmed by his other self anon(its why the grab isnt a oneshot). Trina can enter people's dreams and she wants you to end miquella's suffering and also to forgive him.
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>marika turn herself into a male
>immediately falls for crazy carian pussy
thus the cycle repeats with ranni
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>>489512730
):<
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>>489514051
>St trina turns self into a male
>immediately falls for crazy carian bussy
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>>489510064
It’s simple, we get a jar, grab St. Trina, and nab Miquella.
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Miquella is simply a transvestite faggot and I refuse to follow for this reason.
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I wonder what he meant by that
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>>489499378
>no option to reset the legacy dungeons without key items like golden seed and weapons
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>>489514129
He is as slightly taller than leda anon look at the torrent promotional material and the scale of the statue to malenia. He is the mommy.
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>>489513974
The plot twist is that Trina has Miquella's sociopath parts. It assumed Miquella gave up good parts when Miquella was truly sad and remorseful and gave up all his bad parts. Miquella, now better than ever and out to make everything good, got killed because his sociopath side was too messed up to understand guilt and shame.
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>>489514317
I mean st trina is effectively a succubus anon. They can invade your dreams and force you to fall in love with them. so that checks out.
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>>489508236
>morgott unseals his curse
>nothing happens other than him coughing
>malenia blooms again
>nothing happens other than her getting stronger and cool wings
>messmer unseals his curse
>entire body changes, gets all fucked up, clearly will die after the fight
yeah its kino
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>>489514216
Marika is also trans by this logic, Malenia commits selfcest mid fight and rykard commits incest vore with a snake. The entire family is messed up just like norse and greek.
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>>489514654
marika is a true trans, someone who really became a man/woman
miquella is a tranny
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>>489514216
He's a straight male so you're wrong because St Trina exists, who he definitely plapped.

st Trina was another person who get jarred with by the hornsents and later split from
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>>489491274
The camera is so disorienting. If this was on purpose, then bravo Miyazaki.
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>look at story about gods
>trans trannies transvestite
? ? ?
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>>489514758
Actually he's anti trans thinking about it because he could become a woman at some point(st trina is his other self) then got rid of his woman half to be a faggot.
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Can't get enough of these delayed aoe. These things are custom tailored to fuck shit up in invasions
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where's the miquella = st. trina lore in the base game? not denying it, just curious
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So we know the deathbirds have their own god. We know their ghostflame was used to burn the dead, destroying their very souls. Looking at pic related I think there's a connection somewhere. Maybe this being was called Ensha? I hate how this fucking cunt Miyazaki decided to pack like 10x the amount of lore into one game so that all of it is super surface level dogshit.
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why didn't miq impregnate st Trina so the second dlc would have their kid as the next villain?
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>>489514767
do you guys think miquella and trina ever, you know...
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>>489515164
would have been a better ending to bring miquella to coffin fissure than radahn
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>>489515074
miquella and st trina are all cut content
i think theres one guy (rhico) who says in his quest that he "found st. trina's, no, lord miquella's body"
>>489515104
>soulless king
wow...just like godwyn...
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>>489515104
releasing their souls*
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>>489515074
Cut content directly confirming (st trina no miquella's cadaver), The fact st trina dissapeared out of nowhere, the flowers being reflections of eachother, her depiction in the sword o trina looks like miquella and the bewitching branch(a miquella item) being from a st trina cookbook.
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>>489515164
Miquella is literally willing to hug anyone anon so definitely. Dude would've experimented with himself he's marika/radagon's selfcest kid after all.
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>>489515560
I wonder what it's like to fuck yourself
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>>489515696
disregard that guy, st trina, radagon, marika and miquella are all 4 different people, who are not really connected
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>>489515696
idk but marika and radagon are caked the fuck up which implies miquella and malenia should be too cuz they are made from the selfcest.
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I don't want to go into the DLC until I have beaten Malenia but also I cannot beat Malenia.
What do? Do I surrender to the mimic tear now after I've made it this far?
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forcefeeding Hyetta slimy grapes! May chaos take the world!
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>>489515872
Anon you literally see marika turn into radagon mid game did you even beat elden ring you fucking retard?
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>>489515346
when is godwyn ever referred to as a king?
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>>489513941
I wish we could follow Mohg. I want to see Mohgwyn
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>>489515991
1. learn how to dodge waterfowl
2. freeze pots to cancel waterfowl
3. cheese her with some shit, I don't remember how to
4. mimic tear or tiche
5. just summon some nigga
6. git gud
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>>489516276
Mohgwyn starts playing PLIN PLIN PLON.
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>>489515991
Basic moveset: just dodge lol
Waterfowl: tanking the first movement with a shield and dodging the other two makes it a lot more manageable
Clone attack: get away from her and start rolling in a circle
Light rolling makes it easier, monitoring your stamina is key
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>>489516348
7. bleed also cancels waterfoul if you know your bleed stat values you can abuse it.
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>>489516060
the same person can't be in two places at once.

miquella is in enir Ilum and st trina is in a ditch. They are at the opposite sides of the map and do just fine.

and you're wrong, Marika turns into radagon turns into the elden beast which turns into marika. radagon probably died with the beast. he was mixing his body in her and then separated himself after death like separating people that were mixed in a jar
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>>489515991
She has DS3 poise hyper armor. Staggers when not attacking but superarmor during attacks
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Malenia literally took me 3 tries.
Why do people call her hard?
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>mfw they could've had adult Miquella rather than rehashing Morgott's bitch boy
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>>489515872
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>>489516714
waterfowl and the attack where she sends phantoms at you

don't be disingenuous
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are whips HONEST?
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>>489516250
i meant the soulless part, godwyn is referred to as the death prince
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>>489516976
Phantoms only punish the unga bungers who insist on sticking close to her
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>>489517230
If they don't have status yes.
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Would you use it?
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>>489516563
Miquella divested st trina. didnt you read what people were saying.
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why don't cheat engine users always use this to prove how cool they are?
these swords are status symbols because nobody honest has them.
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>>489515991
What type of weapon are you using? I struggled when I fought her with a colossal but completely shit on her when I switched to dual straight swords.
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>>489517615
i do
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>>489517510
uhhh how the fuck would he know about miquella's needle and how would he "recreate it"
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>>489517510
no, because fia's mirror exists
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This went on for a solid minute before i took out my phone to record. Not a controller issue, checked. Not being able to open my map when the arbitrarily decides im not allowed to is the biggest flaw in the game. Any mods to fix this shit?
https://files.catbox.moe/d4d172.mp4
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>>489516976
I will always chose Melina. No other women could compare to her.
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>>489517615
Because they're mediocre as actual weapons.
>B-B-BU-B-BU-BUT THEY'RE THE LONGEST STRAIGHT SWORDS!
By like an inch and their AR is low compared to other options.
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>>489517563
no he said "here, I abandon my love"

when someone says their love, it means a person that they love

>>489517667
do you also use this?
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>>489516976
nepheli forma disney princess
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Leda is for __________
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>>489517962
Go do the fucking npc sidequests. "So miquella divested himself of even that his little flower of sleep."
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>>489518074
Pegging.
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>>489518074
disemboweling
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>>489517962
no the rapiers attack one at a time whereas the straights attack at once
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>>489518074
mana transfer
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>>489517776
you rike?
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>fire keeper
>doll
why couldn't they make melina more like them? people literally forgot she exists
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>>489503921
>>489504213
The game does not precompile shaders. It will get noticeably better if you can coop bosses a few times. Select areas of the DLC (and still base game) have unoptimized volumetrics and turning this down can help.
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>>489518595
>people literally forgot she exists
Nice made up narrative retard
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>>489518074
HORNSENT COCK
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>>489518074
handholding with the Tarnished
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>>489518735
"made up" yeah if you live in a bubble, it's very common to find her at the start and then only at leyndell
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>>489454902
how do i beat promised consort radahn
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>>489519121
haha that's kinda funny
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>>489519121
Try seducing him
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>>489519121
he is missing his backpack twink to pacify him
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>>489519121
you practice on ds3
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>>489519121
did they give radahn any unique moves?
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>>489519627
uhhhhhh i dont know
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>>489519578
>>489519931
please stop posting these webms, you're making me sad
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>>489520038
FromSoftware gave up on Elden Ring and so should (You)
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>>489519121
>mfw I didn't even remember headless summon guy
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>>489520038
okay ^_^b
>>489520157
its over...
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>>489520223
vengarl is like the 2nd most interesting NPC in the game

that's not really saying much though...
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>>489455131
which build should I invade with today?
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>>489520471
1st most is the girlfriend you can dress up
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>>489520592
godwyn
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You FOOLS.

the point is she is super eepy and cuddly

I WILL kiss her foot and take a nap on her belly
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Is a PhD worth it?

Does Radahn have a PhD?
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>>489520617
A LIE WILL REMAIN A LIE
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>>489520592
All kino, go with bottom left for today. Dragon cult supremacy and all that
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>>489520471
But muh Aidia and Lucatiel
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>>489520592

Shroom slut
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>>489519931
>Godwyn trained Radahn all along
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>>489521394
death knight is dex though because lightning is dex.

right? godwyn was sacred wasn't he?
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>>489520617
>>489521053
1st is obviously aldia
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>>489521546
Godwyn used lightning too. Golden Lightning apparently.
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I like to think Godwyn had a spear (because of Morgott's Holy Spear and Lightning Spear) so his knights using axes makes me want to kill myself
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Im addicted to dryleaf arts
Its objectively not great but beating the fuck out of bosses with just your hands and feet feels incredible
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>>489520871
>>489521549
>A TREE, BEARER! I TURNED MYSELF INTO A TREE! I'M TREE SCHOLAR
Nothing is as interesting as the female body
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>>489521869
I thought Morgott's spear was model after the Tree Greatspear. Godwyn fought with his hands, like his dad
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>>489519931
You're retarded. Spinning Gravity Thrust existed in the base game.
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>>489521869
His knights can use whatever weapons they want. None of the Crucible Knights use Godfrey's double axe. No Cleanrot uses Malenia's katana. Lordsworn use their greatswords, partisans, and great bows. Radahn shares a greatbow but none use Godrick's axe, Morgott's staff, etc.
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>>489522079
Beating dragons with your hands sounds rough though
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>>489521935
young anon do you wish to stop being a coomer?
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>>489522115
It's time to edit an incorrect article. Again.
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>>489522341
no
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Do we know who was the oldest kid of the Golden Lineage? Text in-game suggests Golden Lineage was the first of the demigods, that's Godwyn and the twins, Morgott and Mohg. Which one is the oldest among them?
I always thought it was Godwyn, but seeing the Giant's Red Braid, I got to thinking about Radagon and came across a theory that suggests it was Mohg/Morgot who were born first, then Godwyn. This sounds wrong to me but no idea why.
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>>489522370
I mean Radahn's gravity spin you idiot. He uses it in the base game fight long before those death knights existed.
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>>489520768
this dude almost got me with the fake surrender
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>>489522558
something states Godwyn is Marika and Godfrey's firstborn, but I don't know of anything that concretely places Messmer and Melina's births anywhere.
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>>489522687
I like your build anon, post stats?
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>>489522558
It was clearly Godwyn.
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>>489522558
The timeline is a mess anyway
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>>489522892
>take infusable int weapon
>infuse it and make it scale with fth
build your own int fth weapon
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>>489523378
>D INT scaling
>Good
You're like those retards who insisted Flame/Sacred Clayman or Magic Erdsteel was good in the base game.
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>>489523378
>58+14 magic damage
You realize after flat resistances they are taking no magic damage, right? The INT scaling on this is doing literally nothing.
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>>489523547
>>489523727
its an int/fai build, the only thing that matters is if it's int/fai
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>>489523992
Are you illiterate? I'm telling you the INT scaling on this shield isn't doing anything. You're essentislly just using a FTH weapon.
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>>489520889
that jumping attack that fell just fell short made me clench
>>489524313
you know how like people gimp themselves in pve so they can beat the game? I'm just gimping myself so I can beat the invasion
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>>489523378
Irregardless a Flame Carian shield doesn't fit the Godwyn theme at all
You didn't beat the host
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I feel like they fucked up with Miquella from the start.
The true Griffith arc is something like "success after success til he reaches a true peak, then losing it all swiftly into a low so low that he's willing to sacrifice anything can to get out of it"
The base game just shows us Miquella fucking up time and time again (and despite that, people still love him unconditionally) and then he just shows up in the Shadow Realm and goes on the path to become a god and his only real sacrifice is leaving behind his body.
Miquella's Haligtree should've succeeded.
His delving into Fundamentalism should've succeeded, splitting it into "Miquella's Fundamentalism"
He should've had another good win with a very clear mark in the Lands Between history, like say, improve the standing of Omens (Mohg) in the world
And then Godwyn should've been killed, his fundamentalism destroyed, the omen curse gotten so out of control that everyone despises him for it (Dung Eater) and Mohg become so obsessed with him that he kidnaps him and accidentally sends him to the Shadow Realm, where he finally decides that to attain Godhood, he would sacrifice everything that still loved him to use as fodder for his ascension.
Reaching the end of the DLC would have us watch Miquella turning everything and everyone in the Haligtree into Godgoo for him to eat and become a true God, including Malenia. There's no need for Radahn either, just let us fight the twink then the twink in God status, do Elden Beast 2.0 with his face on top if you want.
Beating the DLC and going to the Haligtree afterwards would result in you finding the entire area desolate. Nothing remains.
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>>489524893
If you're aware of it and gimping yourself that's one thing, but to tell people to follow your example and "make their own INT/FTH weapon" when your example is essentially just a FTH weapon is kinda fucked up man. Idiots will believe that this works.
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How do I make an Arcane build that slaps in 2v2s AND in duels?
Thanks guys.
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>>489524995
neither do sword of night and flame and rellana's swords...
golden order greatsword should have been int/fth
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I love being summoned for Rauh. If I got more Rauh summons I would rename myself to Rauh Tour Guide but I only get 1, maybe 2 summons a day usually.
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>>489522823
Nothing actually states Godwyn was the first born, even though it seems like he should be, I even thought there was something that said it because fextralife says it but with no source to back it up.
We only know he was the first Demigod to die, that Godfrey and the Golden Lineage were the first Demigods and Godwyn was Marika's favourite.
Him being among the first Demigods and Marika's favourite could indicate he was the first born but given that Demigod status almost seems like it's something that can just be conferred it's entirely possible for Messmer, Melina, Mohg and Morgott to have been born before him but Godfrey and the Golden Lineage granted the title first (even if it also seems like something that should be inherited).
Actually that also means in the Elden Lord ending you might be counted as a Demigod assuming Marika is in a state to raise you up to that status, which also means you might be at the mercy of the effects of Goldmask's Mending Rune.
Additionally, the fact that it's the entire Golden Lineage and not just Godwyn raises the possibility that Godwyn already had descendants by that point and he spent the first part of his life without being called a Demigod.

Personally I like the idea that Marika's first four children were all so fucked up (my headcanon order being Messmer -> Melina -> Mohg & Morgott) she basically didn't start counting until Godwyn.
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>>489525339
you know the answer
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>>489525101
>my ideology can rise from the ashes
But they did rise and do well. I don't get it. We just didn't have an option to side with them and only could side with other ideologies, like the moon or death.
What is this meme trying to say?
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>>489525398
Radagon hates int, while Renalla studied the Moon he studied the Golden Order. The int/fth holy spells are gifts to Radagon from Miquella.
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>>489454902
Is there any way to kill Freyja/Hornsent if I'm alreayd at the Leda and Allies boss fight? I feel like it's going to be impossible to do it without cheesing it
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>>489525568
That's literally wrong though, he studied sorceries.
>As the husband of Rennala of Caria, the red-haired Radagon studied sorcery, and as the husband of Queen Marika, he studied incantations. Thus did the hero aspire to be complete.
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For my int/fth build I use the DMGS as my primary source of damage and just use incantations to buff myself. I don't bother with sorceries.
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For my INT/FTH build I'm doing an INT infused Scythe and a Halo Scythe and switch on a whim.
Halo Scythe is great btw Miquella's Ring of Light is a great ash
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>>489525805
That's not an INT/FTH build, that's just you being retarded.
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>>489526040
>Halo Scythe is great btw Miquella's Ring of Light is a great ash
Halo Scythe is worthless as an actual weapon. The ash is good, but that's just it, it's an ash stick and nothing more and that's one of the worst spots for any weapon to be in.
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>>489526124
What's retarded about it? I'm hitting the int soft cap of 50 for weapon AR
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wtf, did he frost himself?
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>>489526508
>I'm hitting the int soft cap of 50 for weapon AR
The softcap for AR is 80 retard.
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>>489526575
Yeah that makes sense. I seen him die like that before and had no idea why.
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How do we know Miquella is a boy? They never show a penis. All other Empyreans are girls. Gloam-Eyed QUEEN, Marika, Ranni, Malenia. Why would Miquella alone be different? He even chooses Radahn as his consort. A man. St. Trina, his own self, is a girl.
Clearly, he's a girl.
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>>489526917
He's been referenced with male pronouns, chud.
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>>489525101
This is assuming Miyazaki cares about the game (he doesn't).
If our own level up maiden gets nothing other than lore dump (but different than other characters like Rogier or turtle pope, it doesn't show her personality) and they still insist on giving her an "emotional cutscene" to make you feel sad once she burns in the forge them you know they are barely trying. Seriously, you can see it in the DLC: Rellana shows up out of nowhere. Who the fuck is this bitch? Her "story" is told in 3 lines at most just to "manipulate" you into feeling bad ("only here fire and moon were together") and then make headcanons/self insert. Another thing on the DLC is that in he entire base game you see that Marika was a bitch. Hewg, Maliketh, using people as tools (Godfrey, Rennala) and then suddenly one line of text in the Shaman Village is enough to make people cry and forgive her. There's NO reason for them to put any effort.
The "Zanzibart... Forgive Me" is literally the story of the game.
>>489525568
Radagon is the int/fai guy though, he's the OG fundamentalist.
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>>489526294
I don't disagree, reapers in general feel like ass but I don't wanna grind two grave reapers ...
>>489526917
Malenia refers to him as brother so he's a boy or a tranny, either way he's a faggot.
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>>489526661
Yeah but 50 is the second to last soft cap and I decided to stop there instead of going to 80; what's wrong with that? Those 30 points of int only result in about a 6% damage difference and I'd rather redistribute them elsewhere.
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>>489526661
nta but that's the hardcap and the softcap for casting is 60 tho lusat's practically makes it 80
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>>489527062
>Radagon is the int/fai guy though, he's the OG fundamentalist.
name one (1) sorcery that he uses
don't you dare fucking quote the description of the radagon icon at me
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>>489527238
>that's the hardcap
You people need to stop using words you don't understand. Hardcaps are 99.
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>>489527030
>>489527097
And Gwyndolin was referred to by female pronouns. Is that all we have? CHARACTERS referring to him with masculine pronouns? No items descriptions ever do. No unbiased source ever does.
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>>489526917
They don't show a penis but they do show feminine hips and a womb pouch
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>>489527249
what? not using sorceries doesn't mean he's not int/fai
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>>489527249
>Refute me!
>But don't use the evidence that does refute me!

'As the husband of Rennala of Caria, the red-haired Radagon studied sorcery, and as the husband of Queen Marika, he studied
incantations. Thus did the hero aspire to be complete.'

Get fucked you goalpost moving faggot
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>>489527249
the incant with his name on it requires 31 int
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>>489527346
You're retarded.
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>>489527367
well considering Trina calls him Male and she has literally been inside of him im willing to take her word for it
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>>489527612
>n-no u!
I accept your concession.
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>>489521258
average cooper buff ritual
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You can take any damage stat and mix it with faith and it will be a good build just because faith buffs are so strong
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>>489527774
you're legitimately some 40 IQ retard lmao
I bet you're brown
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>>489527841
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>>489527969
Hardcap literally means it won't gain anymore benefit. This means the hardcaps are 99. You're retarded. 80 is the final softcap.
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Post your stat distribution NOW to prove that you know how to build correctly
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>>489527946
Golden Vow should've required 45 FTH and Flame Grant me Strength should've required 35
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>>489527841
Explain this shit.
I have inflicted rot on the past 5 of 6 invasions, and every single time the Poison Flow Blooms Twice skill has not procced shit. Why does this thing not do its fucking job 90% of the time?
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>>489526917
St Trina's last line is
>You must kill Miquella... Grant him forgiveness.
Ansback says
>Miquella the Kind...is a monster. Pure and radiant, he wields love to shrive clean the hearts of men. There is nothing more terrifying.
And later
>As if using Lord Mohg to gain entrance to the land of shadow were not enough, he plans to use his corpse as the vessel of his king consort. He has forsaken Lord Mohg's soul. He desires only his empty shell.
Malenia's helmet says
>My brother will keep his promise. He possesses the wisdom, the allure, of a god – he is the most fearsome Empyrean of all.
Gideon says
>I heard speculation Miquella embedded himself in the Haligtree, but before he could finish...
and then
>If he continues his slumber within the cocoon, all will be well.
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>>489528121
explain what?
you rot or poison them then you dive kick them
they can also roll it and if you phantom hit them, it will cleanse their poison which is really lame
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>>489528112
Sure thing chief.
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>>489528112
10 across the board
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>>489528285
I'm smashing my heel into their chest cavity and the overwhelming majority of the time it does all of 200 damage.
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>>489528071
The """benefit""" you gain past 80 is so miniscule that it might as well be nothing. Maybe consider learning the decade old terminology of the community you joined last week instead of being a retarded nigger.
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>>489528113
Oh and Golden Vow ash of War literally shouldn't exist, neither should the fucking item in the DLC, seriously what the fuck
It's so weird how easily accessible that buff is in the entire game, you literally can get it as soon as you start the game and there's NO REASON to NOT use it
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>cast spell against boss
>it phases right through him doing no damage
Ok so if the boss can be immune to damage for no reason then im cheating too. Cheat engine has godmode right? Ive never used it.
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>>489528478
idk what to tell you man
works on my machine
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>>489528703
don't use mass of putrescence
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>>489528703
Bosses have i-frames during some attacks (such as grabs for example or some aerial attacks) just like you do during dodge rolls. If them having i-frames is cheating, you rolling is cheating. You're retarded and are experiencing a skill issue and trying to justify cheating to overcome it.
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>>489528763
It was comet.
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what happens when you try to cast butterflies without spawn immunity
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>>489528478
Because you're a fucking idiot who doesn't realize you need to rot/poison them BEFORE you do the kick. The rot build-up on it is low and should only be used for PvE. In PvP it's purely a combo finisher after you already have rot/poison on the target.
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something about Rellana's posture/idle stance is incredibly sexy idk why. her actual character model isn't really, but it's specifically her pose.
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>>489528113
>>489528524
There's also those insane 60% elemental resist buffs which can entirely trivialize most bosses. Elden Beast is a complete joke with the holy resist buff.
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>>489528890
Yeah no if i see my spell hit you you take damage since 2009 the game has always functioned properly like that. The boss being immune to damage isnt "challange" or a "skill issue" its a flaw and the game not functioning. Im making the game function properly by using godmode only against bosses thst use godmode too. Thats called fair. I accept your concession.
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>patch came out
>removed my invalid item warning
Guess I'm good to spawn in another 999 scarlet rot pots
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>>489529193
Elden Beast is already a joke since now you can use Torrent on it (and that's a good thing). It always should have been a victory lap boss after Radagon.
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which level range are the int/fth sorceries for and why does the dlc have so many?
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REMINDER: the only way freyja's backstory makes sense and fits in the timeline is if:
>miquella marched to caelid with malenia and the army
>malenia fought radahn and bloomed
>the swamp got fucked with scarlet rot
>finlay picked up malenia and started dragging her back to the haligtree
>miquella stuck around for a while longer
>found freyja abandoned in the swamp
>kissed her and healed her rot infection
>hauled ass back to the haligtree (without helping his beloved sister)
>put himself in the cocoon
>got kidnapped by mohg
>all before finlay finally returned to the tree with malenia
and people still try to cope and say fromsoft had this shit planned from the start and radahn was always meant to be and all this crap. give me a fucking break
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>>489529298
take a wild guess at the expected level for the dlc buddy
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>>489529217
You sound like such a colossal shitter, my fucking God.
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>>489529217
Then you rolling is cheating too. My spell hit you during your faggy little somersault. You should be dead. Dirty cheating bitch. I'm gonna report you to the teacher, yeah you like that? Gonna tell your mom too. And after that I'm gonna kiss you on the mouth because only a gay little boy like you could have an argument like this and after that I'm gonna stick my cock in your mouth and impregnate your boy throat with my man seed. I bet you'd like that wouldn't you? Fag.
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>>489528137
Why does he wield love to shrive clean the hearts of men but not women
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>>489529541
homosexual
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>>489529541
women are naturally horny for the god shota, no need for any trick
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>>489529541
women dont have hearts
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>>489529097
Did you not read the prior two comments in that chain, or were you dropped on your head as a child?
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>not a single summoning pool has summons
>using effigy with near/far never gets me summoned
what gives
i'm only level 32, is that why?
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>>489528325
Looks good to me; you pass
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>>489529541
See >>489529717
Women are incapable of true love. They only understand obsession and lust.
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I hate whoever decided that a boss suddenly shouting should do damage
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>>489529454
>>489529491
Im sorry me fixing the flaws with the game hurt your feelings.
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>>489529769
Don't care, you have a room temperature IQ if you can't understand how to make that ash work. I bet you're brown.
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I don't know how people invade in this game without the CE toggle for turning off boss fog spawns. Loaded up an old file this afternoon and was getting consecutive spawns into boss fog messages. Shit is abysmal.
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>>489529808
dont upgrade your shit to +10
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>>489529808
in the dlc?
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>>489529882
>No see you don't understand, me being too bad at the game to grasp that some attacks can't be traded with means the GAME is flawed, it's not a reflection on me being a bad player at all!
Embarrassing.
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>>489529114
Her Twin Moons
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>>489530145
no base game
>>489530098
i have rogier's rapier at +9, is that why?
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>>489530207
yeah rl32 is like +3, max +4 for normal players
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it's been just over a month since the dlc released and all the hype is already gone. the game feels completely dead with 90k active players
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>>489530207
the last time i summoned yellows to fight reds in stormveil my weapon was +1
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>>489530150
How is me fixing the flaws with the game "embarrasing"? If from made the game functional like demons souls and dark souls 1 i wouldnt need to fix it.
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>>489528112
For you, judge.
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>>489519121
>>489519578
Is literally everything about him recycled...?
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>>489529303
freyja made me understand people who hate when masked characters take off the mask
the timeline only makes "sense" if you think mohg kidnapped miquella before radahn vs malenia, even then, if he could somehow appear and heal freyja he could, at the very least, show up to his sister or finlay and give them a help (he doesn't), if it was after then he could've made a new needle for her (he also doesn't). then, the existence of miquella's groups (needle knights, dryleaf) just throws the entire thing out of the window since they just sat on the haligtree doing shit
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>>489530482
Lol he died like a pig
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>>489530482
Everybody's playing solo I assume the average person doesn't want anything to do with the dogshit multiplayer
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>>489530585
>he wants the last boss of the dlc to be unique
too much work
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>>489530482
It's the worst product modern FromSoftware has released and for 40$ too even the cultists can't deny it with a straight face
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>>489527532
I accept your concession

>>489527602
fuck it, good enough of an argument
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>>489530490
why are you only lvl32 after killing Godrick?
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When someone types "I accept your concession" this is subtle slang to indicate they are preparing themselves to suck on smelly penis imminently.
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>run at someone as soon as duel starts
>hit them with dragon breathe
>they rage, stop fighting
>leave bad messages on my steam profile

Why?
I thought the game starts when the duel starts?
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>>489530482
its been barely 2 months and the thread is already slow
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>>489529303
>radahn was always meant to be and all this crap
Reminder that Miquella brought back Radahn before The Shattering. This means he is weaker than obtaining his great rune and fighting Malenia. He had his great rune when pic happened.
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DS3 was better
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>>489531046
why do you think i killed godrick?
the whole point was to summon yellows and tongue in stormveil. level 30 is what everyone invades stormveil with

also obnoxious how many people want to just bleed delete bosses for you
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>>489531297
Poise
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>>489531269
morgott (forma de hobo) vs "starscourge" radahn
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What sidequests should have I advanced, and how far, by the time I get to Leyndell's required bosses?
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>Please perma-kill me. That way Miquella can't bring me back for a shitty boss for a jank DLC. I know soulless demigods can be brought back but please kill me even harder than them.
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>>489531420
You have Rogier's Rapier, he only gives it to you after killing Gorick.
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>>489530482
Game has been out for a long time, DLC is just additional single player content.

Despite what plebs believe, the game is kept primarily alive via invasions, pvp, ganks, and messing around online. The clips, videos, and streams from that content also keep popping up online, generating more players to come check it out.
FromSoft didn't add anything online related. They didn't even add a new Arena map or Covenant. They added nothing worth playing beyond single player and then you're done.

That was there choice, but because of that, when you beat the DLC you are already burned out from the rest of the game.
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>>489530207
>i have rogier's rapier at +9, is that why?
Yeah, +8 is the max you should be for the early game cause that's the max someone with a somber +2 weapon can summon which is something most people will have but if you want to maximize your summons you should stick to +5.
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>>489531641
i said the max weapon i had is a +1
that implies that i dont have it
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>>489531628
the GEQ mindset of thinking it's better to not show up...
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>>489528112
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>>489529303
>>all before finlay finally returned to the tree with malenia
Why?
Like why does it have to be before Finley returned?
Why can't it be like this
>malenia fought radahn and bloomed
>finley hauled her back/frejya got infected
>malenia is still out of commission for god knows how long
>miquella is around for ages after this
>curing people like freyja, meeting mohg and charming him, charming ansbach after that
>eventually, after a long while, he embeds himself into the haligtree
>mohg takes him
Like, what is the issue with this timeline of events?
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>>489531765
what was that about a +9 Rogier's Rapier then? >>489530207
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>>489531945
2 different people
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>>489530482
Are you one of those 5 retards that's still invading vanilla PC? Seamless is literally getting instant invasions all day every day.
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>>489531896
so, why is it our task to bring the needle to malenia?
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>>489532048
then >>489530490 has no business replying like that
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autism
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Maybe the reason they went with Radahn over Godwyn is similar to what they did with Aldrich.
The original plan (or so we're told) is that Aldrich was some big ass slime monster that would've burst out of his coffin as Phase 2 of the Deacons fight, but they couldn't get that working right so they just up and said fuck it.
They grabbed Lothric's model, redressed it to look like Gwyndolin, stuck it on the end of a big maggot and shoved it at the end of Anor Londo with a bunch of recycled shit for attacks and left the Deacons fight back in the Cathedral.
So they couldn't get a Godwyn boss fight working how they wanted, gave up and just went with Radahn.
And that's why he feels so fucking lazy.
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>>489531656
>Despite what plebs believe, the game is kept primarily alive via invasions, pvp, ganks, and messing around online.
Not a single person ever has picked up Elden Ring because they thought some invasion video looked cool.
Not one.
I guarantee this.
Game is "alive" as in sometimes getting new people because they see others play the single player experience, come across videos and discussions of it, see some cool looking boss, or finally want to try out a Souls game.
Game is "alive" as in people play it every day and keep the steam concurrent user numbers high thanks to multiplayer, but that's not important, to anyone.
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>>489532304
Might be
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>>489532313
>not one single person has picked up
Filtered. Go back to Lies of P or whatever lmao
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>>489530482
that's because it is. See >>489530482.
The miniscule percentage of authentic players who somehow haven't touched the game yet for the first time has been extremely low for months already. The only people left playing are FOTM grifters, discord goobers carrying each other, gankers, and other tryhard streamers/players who somehow make a living off of this shit. Even then, the DLC wasn't anywhere near packed enough to keep people at it, I gave the game 1-3 months tops in my prediction posts.
Not to forget that seamless is getting updates now during a critical time, so naturally the playerbase will get chopped off from that alone
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>>489532359
>Forgive me, Fortissax
>2nd phase starts
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>>489532304
if you open your eyes you can clearly see the entire dlc is exclusively repurposed cut content
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>>489532359
ER was never once this kino and NK was just one of several great DS3 bosses what the fuck happened
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>>489532181
It's not? It's no one's task to bring the needle to anyone. Malenia is fine without the needle until AFTER you fight her and she unleashes rot again.
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>>489532359
>Nameless meeting Godwyn
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>>489532304
It isn't Godwyn because he's permanently dead.
It's Radahn because Radahn is tied to Miquella storyline, always was.
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>>489532168
Seamless is also boring as shit
There's nothing a mod can do about the entire open world being empty as dick with 100 ashes and spells that deal 200 poise damage for 4 fp. Even on seamless every invasion is an open world 1v2 or 1v3 and co invaders are rare. The game is just boring and doesn't incentivize multiplayer whatsoever.
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>Watch /dsg/'s favorite streamer
>He's been losing several times in a row to the same ganker groups at redman for like an hour
This is fucking miserable
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>>489532883
>It isn't Godwyn because he's permanently dead.
They can come up with any excuse. They invented a ton of excuses for why the DLC happened. Radahn's a wordless shell anyway. It's not like they're losing much personality having a soulless Godwyn body in his place.
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>>489532629
Dark Souls 3 was the sweet spot for your basic Souls formula boss design, topping out with Friede and Gael.
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>>489533110
theres literally nothing you can do without a coinvader
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>>489532692
Anon, Malenia talks like a kid in japanese. She's doing nothing other than sleeping when the whole thing about rot is to be always moving. She's not "fine". Millicent is also one of the only questlines in the game you can always complete, she also tells you how important it is to bring the needle back. But you can act as the contrarian as always. It's cute.
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>>489533184
>Friede
Poiseless Bloodborne boss.
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>>489532304
The reason is because Miquella being a faggot for Radahn was conceived before development on the game even began. There was never any point where From sat down and discussed the possibility of who the final boss was going to be.
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>>489533005
>doesn't incentivize multiplayer whatsoever.
good
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>>489533493
>Miquella being a faggot for Radahn was conceived before development on the game even began
Is that why there's unused lines where Miquella helps Malenia in phase 2?
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>>489533493
Anon we have cut content that proves this wasn't the case, Miquella was just sitting in a fucking tree doing jackshit or helping the Jews with their dreams until you murderhobo his sister.
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>>489533282
>She's not "fine".
It's been however many tens/hundreds/thousands of years since she got carried back and is literally the same as she was when she fought Radahn. Saying she talks like a kid or is sleeping has nothing to do with anything. Rot isn't progressing, it's halted.
>she also tells you how important it is to bring the needle back
Quote it. I'll wait.

You're getting needlessly hung up on an entirely pointless needle.
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>>489533653
>helping the jews with their dreams
So turning everyone into jars or letting demi-humans slaughter various castles?
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>host is "afk" farming invaders in an inaccessible rooftop
>shoot him twice with some arrows
>he's not actually afk
>he's just sitting here wasting his time
crazy how people still do this shit
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>>489533735
No the Frenzied Jews.
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>>489533539
>>489533653
Miyazaki explicitly said in an interview that the point of the DLC was to tie up Martin's contribution to the game. Miquella was probably still in the Haligtree in whatever he sent them, and From did have the liberty to take things from there, but by the time they began working on the DLC I don't think they seriously doubted how the final encounter would look.
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>be radahn
>always has jank hit boxes
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>>489534052
Oh the guys that went around destroying innocent communities with subversive space aids and then get locked away for their crimes? That fits too.
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>>489534072
>Martin's contribution to the game
Igon and Bayle? Aegon and Balerion the Black Dread? Miquella and Radahn looked like some bad attempt at aping Griffith and Guts. Only no tomboy pussy.
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so theres this guy and hes my brother but he will never submit to me so im sending my sister to give him space aids (this will render her useless and retarded btw) but that wont kill him either so i need a random champion to show up and kill him while im being molested by my other brother who i also need dead by a random champion so i can revive the brother i want to be by my zogbot golem slave

yeah that was definitely planned all along
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>>489534298
Radahn was GRRM's self insert
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>>489533923
Yeah Poopa found one of those faggots in the sewers and he actually disconnected mid fall, it's funny how the invaders who were supposed to be the griefers are the ones suffering from this shit system that favors hosts being as obnoxious as possible
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>>489533674
>her speaking like a kid hinting her deteriorating mental state doesn't matter because I say so!
>the haligtree getting overwhelmed by rot doesn't matter because I say so!
>the rot is halted because...I say so!
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>>489534621
He isn't Fat with Strength.
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>>489534840
I think GRRM identifies more with Sam.
And Craster.
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>>489534762
>deteriorating mental state
You don't know her original mental state.
>the haligtree getting overwhelmed by rot
Good thing we're talking about Malenia, not the Haligtree.
The rot spreading to the Haligtree can happen at any point, even after Miquella was kidnapped. It is also inconsequential.

But I get it. I get why you needed Miquella to cure Freyja before Finley arrived. You're just bad at this.
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>>489535094
>Good thing the source of rot doesn't impact the tree she lives in
huh...neat.
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>>489535036
Did someone say Craster?
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>>489535465
Yet another reaspn why I'm incredulous when people doubt the ending is Gurm's doing.
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>>489536265
Silly anon, this level of inbreeding is very Japanese.
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>>489536384
>>489536384
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