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I beat the game
good evening erg, what's new?
>>490170289>spirit ash summoners will defend this
>>490170289POV my headcanon btfoing fromsoft shitty lore by making it better
>>490170305It's BBQ nightOpen up, here come the airplanes
Honeyed rays of gold...Deliver my spirit...
>>490170058It's still a decent area but the more I play the game the more I start thinking of it as one of those Skyrim hamlets masquerading as a city.
I'm at belurat settlement and already bored to death of these one trick pony enemies with spazzy moveset and giant damageAlso what's up with the item descriptions, were they written by ESL indians or what?
In serious need of a Miquella/Leda shota mommy doujinshi rn
Messmer is.....
>>490170556I like the hornsent warriors. I genuinely wish there were more of them in the DLC, I think there's a grand total of, like, 12. I don't know how to fight the ascetics, though.
>>490170289I keep laughing so much at thisThank you
>>490170496based
>>490170648genderswapped Malenia
>>490170496jej
>>490170543He wanted to go to the Land of Shadow and meet the Crucible
Morgitt implies that he'll send assassin's after you but they never show up. Cut content?
>>490170782Messmer > Malenia
rare lightning slash hitI wish it hand a crumb of super armour..
>>490170908this is what the assassins will do to you instead of killing you
>>490170908Supposedly the Nights Cav is what he's referring to and supposedly they might've been a chaser type enemy but From fucks that up every single time so they're just random ass dudes.Supposedly.
Elden Ring 2 needs full frontal nudity and customizable genitals if it wants to remain relevant after the success of Baldur's Gate 3
Bloodfiends are the worst enemy in a fromsoft game. Not because they're hard - they're really easy, even the cave gank with like 10 of them is easily manageable. But because they're ugly, boring, generic fantasy. They feel like dragon age enemies. They have no dignity. They tell you absolutely nothing about their actually interesting backstory with their visual design or use of stupid brute weapons. They're reskinned omens with literally none of the things that make omens such great designed enemies (visually, they're annoying to fight)
>>490170924Malenia > Messmer
>>490171113I've been saying, they need to cut down om the combat and focus more on the fashion elements and choosing Armors and layering
>>490171246I'm still not like even sure like what they are
They're in love and it's cute.
>>490170554>decent areaLeyndell is easily one of the lowest points of the game for me. The capital is a really barebones, even compared to other Elden Ring legacy dungeons. It's just a city. That's it. Same enemies you fought outside and in the other zones and dungeons. A couple rooftop sections with nothing in them, drainage channels with nothing in them. There's a wide main street where you fight another erdtree avatar. You've basically seen all there is to see when you first walk out to the ramparts at the very beginning. What the fuck even is this place?And no I don't consider the sewers part of Leyndell, especially because the sewers are actually good.
>>490171246I thought they were like demihumans at first
>>490171271They are moving in the right direction by making armors fixed and unable to be upgraded. I honestly wouldn't mind if defensive stats were completely separated from armor, but that wouldn't work for PvP purposes. They definitely need to go further and add pubic hair and associated customization thoughever.
>>490171246they are fun to kill
>>490171246they look ratty
>>490171421>likeRetard
>>490171349They look like bats
Why does this game's FPS shit itself every time there is any kind of waterfall on screen? What the fuck are those nips putting in that water? I literally have lower FPS looking at the small waterfall in Belurat than in the middle of the city in Cyberpunk 2077 with 10x more shit going on.
why do fools at the academy sneer at the demihuman staff?
>>490171246I disagree. I really like their disgusting, degenerate rat-face. Invoking the "dignity" thing that Miyazaki specifically said about undead dragons in DS1 doesn't apply to them, because they're completely undignified, barbaric subhumans.
>>490171421Are they not demihumans? I assumed the same because they drop string and normally only demihumans carry string (for lore reasons)
>>490171349Mutated hornsent who's ancestor gods were secretly replaced by the formless mother, and decided to turn into these guys to escape their pain and get vengeance. Yes, this has absolutely nothing to do with their design, where they may as well be ogres
>>490171563They're racist
>>490170006I watched an elden ring "speedrun" so you guys paid money to ride a horse for hours and one shot bosses the game genuinely seems awful and anti fun unless you really like riding a horse and exploring which I can understand you do realize the game is pretty ugly it's just grey and green with some purple and red filters in some places damn I wanted to play it but I wasn't imagining things that first time I pirated it and played for a day it's actually fucking dogshit
>>490171740Minecraft speed runs aren't the experience you get playing minceaft, why do you assume that elden ring speed runs are how you play elden ring
I still haven't seen Placidusax once.
>>490171740For gods sake learn how to use periods.
>>490171403It's really weird that Stormveil got all the attention instead of Leyndell. Miyazaki must've realized open world was a mistake about halfway through development.
From's next game shouldn't have dungeons or RPG elements, they're artifacts by this point.
>>490171485what did i do>>490171634i dont know
I still think Limgrave is the best area.
This webm is lore friendly. In their original bodies they had a similar height difference.
I like how Sellen is still nice to me despite being a low int mongoloid.They should have had her call the player a good boy.
>>490172349I'm sending 10 white vans to molest you lil nigga.
>>490172582Limgrave is still the best area and Stormveil is still the best Legacy Dungeon and Godrick's cutscenes are still the most kino.
How many chinks will I rot pot at level 20 stormveil today
Are thorn sorcerers welcome at the Academy of Raya Lucaria?
>>490172606Did Miquella ever fall asleep in Radahn's hands?
>>490172894Wow, you are me.
>>490172947I bet that head is fire.
>>490172983Very possible. It's also likely malenia gave him piggy back rides through the haligtree
Leda is very aesthetic, isn't she?
>>490171950nothing of value was lost, ignore Bayle, too.I ignored furnace golems in the DLC and I'm not interested in any more dragon fight
Why does everyone simp over Ranni when Sellen is way hotter
>>490170687They are possibly the worst enemy in From's entire catalogue, dude>infinite poise, unstoppable animations>giant healthbar and damage>spazzy moveset that mixes cheap rollcatches and delayed strikesCompare them to the twin odachi samurai in Sekiro which is a similar concept but much better in execution
>>490173950Because they don't understand the power of an attractive voice. The helmet stays ON.
>>490171950The actual fight isn't bad. The runback is terribly tedious though, I have no idea why there wasn't a stake closer. He gets annoying in the later stages of the fight with too much teleportation but a lot of his attacks in that phase are very visually impressive. His running away isn't nearly as bad as the Elden Beast at least. I think it's a 7/10 fight at least in spite of all that.
>>490171925I mean, for most people Elden Ring's gameplay is just "ride horse go to place of interest."I did a "kill everything no Torrent run" once and while it was fun I couldn't imagine myself doing that every time.Comparing that to Minecraft doesn't really fit since it's a sandbox game first and any other thing like beating the Ender Dragon is just optional.
>>490173950You marry ranniSellen turns into a ballOnly reason. If malenia or sellen were marryable no one would pick marika or ranni.
>>490173886Yes she is
How does one get moderately skilled at Elden Ring when one has terrible reaction time and poor spatial awareness? Just keep on playing it until it finally clicks?
I want Sellen to lay me tummy down over her lap, grip me by the throat with one hand, and ruthlessly milk my prostate with the other.
how much vigor on my 125 hardcore pvp mage build?
>>490171740i drew you a cute portraityou can use it as a steam avatar or something if you like
>>490174283Conversely if Ranni was a dude his ending would be the least picked out of all of them
LOATHSOME ISSUE OF THE ROTTEN STRUMPET
>>490171093>chasers>There's a troon npc in the dlc who wants to be a mom>chaserDoes miyazaki know?
>>490173950Tsunderes have been a popular archetype since the fucking 80s, why do you ask retarded mongoloid questions on the internet?
>>49017477660>>490174713why would you want that, but yeah just keep playing
>>490174813Of course. If dung eater were a girl her ending would be the most picked one.
>>490174002They're based, stay filteredI'm glad there are finally some half-challenging enemies in this stupid game
Kinda weird you cant suggest Leda to go after Ansbach considering hes the one who dislikes Miquella the most among the NPC's, tarnished personal bias?
>>490174283this
Sellen extracts the essence from the primordial serpent
>>490174713Yeaht. so clumsy and poorly coordinated that I can't even ride a bike but I can beat Malenia RL1 straight sword only, no damage
>>490174283Sellen doesn't *have* to turn into a ball... You could spend the rest of your lives together, building a home in her dirty little crypt if you wanted...
>>490175032fake webm, clearly using cheat engine at 49 seconds
bitches really be reposting the same webm over and over againthat's poopa's role don't copy it
>>490174813Many would still do the quest if the sexes were reversed. Simply because tall sword furry wold lady and rapist magic woman being puppeted by another rapist magic woman(selivus and pidia) would be some of the most popular waifus in elden ring. I do wonder though, if the roles were reversed would people actually like the loli x oversized tomboy yuri of femiquella x femdahn?
>>490174713>How does one get moderately skilled at Elden Ring when one has terrible reaction time and poor spatial awareness? Just keep on playing it until it finally clicks?Basically. Do note that ER is more memorization based than reaction based. Most of the enemies will fuck you up if you re-actively dodge or attack. Also, because of this, most bosses will always require hefty learning. The skills you learn in one boss are not necessarily transferable to another. In older games, it wasn't uncommon to start beating lategame bosses in three or less goes as the knowledge was more cumulative (git gud at one boss and you'll be pretty gud at all of them). This was especially true in Sekiro, for instance, where the final boss should literally take you no time if you've mastered reading and reacting to the Ashina fighting style a good half of all the enemies used.This is all assuming you don't make an absolutely busted build or strat that allows you to basically ignore the boss's moveset of course.
>>490174713>Just keep on playing it until it finally clicks?Literally every videogame with any kind of hand-eye coordination aspect btwSo yes
>>490175264you made me think of radahn putting miquella inside his pussy, thanks
>>490175264I only understood like a third of this and am glad i didnt understand the rest
bitches really be making the same bitchmade complaints instead of learning how to play the gamethat's /v/'s role don't copy it
is furious blade of ansbach just reskinned frayed blade wa
>>490175741Yeah, well...>>490175939It's a reskinned move from armored core actually
>>490176084lazy ass company
>>490175939yes
>>490174713tl;dr you want to>give every boss in the game one to three "honest" attempts>give up and summon mimic tear>learn nothing>find a bubble on the internet that will reinforce all of your specific preconceptions so you can rest well knowing that it's the game's faultIn all seriousness, just keep playing the game and experiment with all of the options it gives you. If you REALLY want to learn at an accelerated pace, you could record yourself fighting a boss and then look at the recording. You'll definitely notice how you play much more easily.There are very few enemies and bosses in Elden Ring who require good reaction time, by design. Almost everything is telegraphed, even if it doesn't look like it is initially.
WHAT DID YOU JUST SAY TO ME YOU FUCKING /V/TARD FAGGOT AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAH
>>490176228man I hadn't seen this image in ages, actually, what the fuck
>>490175024I am doing it for Messmer, and so I can create further ludokino tragic excellence through popping Dragon Transformation when fighting him in the end of phase 1 and the beginning of phase 2 >>490175341Thank you! >>490175454Hand-eye coordination is not really my problem, but moving in a 3-D space is. For example, I was only able to beat the Beastman of Farum Azula in Limgrave through the door to its arena glitching and preventing me from moving at all
>>490174713Rely heavily on a shield. If you know you can't roll with the best, then just block everything with a big slab of metal.
how much vigor for a level 78 invader that uses soreseal?
>>490174713Seconding what >>490176891 said. Just equip defensive talismans and block. You can survive a LOT of shit in Elden Ring with relative ease, and it lets you see the bosses' and enemies' full attack chains because they'll always finish them as long as you're in range.
>Wanna do a FTH run with DEX for lightning shenanigans>Both Death Knight weapons scale off STR
>>49017694960
>>490177074The bolt of gransaxx calls to another...
>>490176949>level 78>soresealIf you're using soreseal, 35+5 or bust. 60-90 is the range where you need to pay the 50-60 VIG tax because of how downscaling works. Or, more accurately, doesn't work. I'd drop the soreseal and just level to 50-60 VIG.
wow, cannon of Rabbath is sloooooow
Is the breakpoint for getting shit from Leyndell before it gets covered in ash going into the Azula or is it killing Maliketh?
>>490177497maliketh
>no teeth
>>490177234so you drop 15 stats for 60 vigor?you drop 5 end, 5 str and 5 dex so you have 60 vig instead of 35-40?Free stats are worth so much at low level, are you sure the downscaling you mention can only be countered by heavy health?
>>490177635>low level>80
>be wearing full tree sentinel>reasonably tanky>take off dragoncrest talisman>time to kill on me drops by a shittonwow, this talisman really is a crutch
>>490177635Even with 50-60 VIG, password phantoms can regularly 2-shot you with relatively basic attacks in the 60-90 range. I don't know why this is, but it fucking sucks and I hate it. If you don't believe me, just try invading with 40 VIG and see how it goes, respecs are free enough.It's also the range where password summons are most common because very few people do organic co-op while leveling or specifically organically co-op at that range.
>>490177894It's not a crutch, FromSoft just decided to distribute damage negation across like 5 different options instead of it just being>put on Havel's>win the entire game instantlyI'm glad it's as good as it is
>>49017720640 DEX 46 FTH? This looks like a mess man
Hello /erg/!
Very much liking this here Freyja girl, boysTop feetpussies, nice thighs, nice pussy, good girl
>>490178160hello anon is that the artbook
>>490178187She may have a butterface, but I still would
>>490178160Guns are kind of gay.
>>490178287Yes, it is
>>490178160mad gay for trying to flex your guns anywhere but /k/
>>490178160why'd you get the expert
>>490178376is it...good...? heard the quality was bad
>>490178187FULLY MODELED
PRAISE THE ERDTREE!
>>490178392The Expert is very nice to shoot and came with the match trigger kit>>490178434Bit shit for an official art book, Vaati's grifter book is leagues better. However, I only got the collector edition for the statue.
>>490178160Based.
>>490178291what do you mean...?
>>490178657what the fuck where's the rot miyaHACKi
excuse me anons, I would like to know where all the int/arc sorceries arebecause there's a million fth/arc spells and I feel like sorcery got shafted
>>490178521HDR or just the game looking like shit?
>>490178698lol and lmao
>>490178698ocular bubble and great ocular bubble.The big bubbles are good enough for anybody
>>490178698This is a FTH gameEvery build would be better with 15 or 25 FTHI'm not even joking.
>>490177894>>490178130It has a lot of diminishing returns in the DLC I feel.
>>490178152You can always put the blinkbolt aow on an infusable weapon. I understand that the death knight axes are aesthetic as fuck, but you don't have to abandon the whole concept.
>>490178742What's wrong with it?
>>490179102No matter where you use it, it's still a reduction in incoming damage by 20% which is huge when DLC bosses are hitting you for 800 fucking damage even with skibbidis maxed.
Is Erdtree's Favor 2 actually worth it? I feel like the bonuses are so low its kind of waste of a slot
>>490178698ARC/INT is the most dire build in the game. Your options are basically>small bubblesUnironically good against large bosses, think of it like a shotgun where the bullets gently float to a stop 5 feet in front of you. Deals respectable poise damage.>big bubbleGood if you can get it off, but situational.>glintstone nail / nailsVery underrated spells. Good tracking, good damage, and both variants can be charged. They don't have an ARC requirement, but they're boosted by the ARC/INT staff.>pure INT spells, but cast with either ARC/INT staffYou could also invest in 24 FAI (or put the +10 FAI tear in your physick) for the thorn sorceries.
Bloody Helice vs Obsidian LaminaHelice>higher AR>thrust damage, benefits from counter damage>better ash of war>better moveset, running r2 is unbeatableLamina>its fun!
>>490179296Way I've come to look at Erdtree Favor is that it's basically an Arsenal type talisman for when I don't need higher levels of Arsenal bonuses.
Just watched Gael fight from DS3. How come he pauses for 5 years between attacks, and he his combos are only like 3-4 hits max?
>>490179620you seeafter DS3From made Sekiro
>>490177962what about level 40-50? should you still put all your points into vig at that range too? the. you'll have no points for anything else and your poise is ruined
What is Arc even supposed to be. Wisdom?
>>490179790Your willingness to fall for cult behavioraka retardation
>>490179919but that's faith
>>490179790you know how there's people who are mixed race unnecessarily like mexicans?arcane is that stat, it's mixed and has the second lowest requirements in the game barely beating dex at 53 to 48 but there's almost nothing that only requires arcane it always combos with something else which is why its mixed.
>>490179790esoteric knowledge
>>490179765No. At that range you can get away with 30-40 VIG, and you get 20 free levels thanks to soreseal so it's easier to throw points around.
Did they screw up Radahn's character? Where is his pride as a warrior? Why does he let a twink interfere with his honorable combat? I dont think this aligns with his character at all.
>>490179969The world of Elden Ring is so directly and blatantly affected by deities and god like entities that not believing in them would actually be the most retarded thing anybody could do in the setting.
>>490180085okay but if you go from 50 to 80 then you have to put 25 of those 30 points into vigor?that gives you 5 points to customize your build while you also lose 15 stats
>>490180252Yes. Blame FromSoft for the fucking retarded downscaling formula, it's gay as hell.
>>490179790Schizophrenic traits
>>490180197okay but what is faith
>radahn needed a fight to have his spirit back>for some reason, leda and her allies fight you??? they don't trust miquella? why not backstab us when we are fighting? i doubt the tarnished would win a 7v3
>>490179102>>490177894>>490179280Ok, so with skibidi level 12, I go from 64.361 to 71.489 physical negation when I equip the great shield talisman. Pretty respectable, but not game changing.Outside of the shadowlands, I go from 34.068 to 47.254, which is pretty game changing.I don't know why the gains are so much smaller in the DLC (nearly half of what you'd get in the basegame), but it makes the talisman far less necessary. A 7% negation increase is decent, but there are much better talismans out there. A 13-15% negation increase, on the other hand, is major.
>>490180717>I don't know why the gains are so much smaller in the DLCbecause of the skibidis
>>490180181Micky Q: Marry meRadahn: No way fagMicky Q: kill him so I don't need his consentMalenia: AightThen he gets revived at the land of shadow under Miquella's mind control. He has no pride , or anything left. He's basically an empty shell, just like this DLC.
>>490180717It's multiplicative scaling. The number looks smaller but the actual effect is the same, you take 20% less damage.
Most of the bosses and enemies in the DLC feel like they come from one of those shitty souls clones like Mortal Shell or whateverDancing Lion in particular is pure slop
>>490180717Negation boosts are all multiplicative, not additive. This is why getting to 100% negation is almost impossible.The increase itself is irrelevant, though, what matters is how much your incoming damage is being reduced. If you take 1700 damage without the Talisman, for example, you'll take 1360 with it, which IS a huge reduction.
>>490180408They didn't want you to interrupt their honeymoon
where the fuck are this artist uncensored works
>>490180328would it still be necessary to level vig to 60 by SL 75 if you were not dealing with downscaled phantoms because vigor is so important?
Scattree fragments are Ubisoft collectables as per modern open world design, except they actually do something. That's why they exist.
>>490181142>Dancing Lion in particular is pure slopThis is gonna sound kind of crazy but hear me out. Dancing Lion looks like DS2 slop.
>>490181341Yeah pretty much. Horrible hitboxes, bad camera, no visual clarity.
>>490181142Dancing Lion is only bad because the camera is terrible. I don't care if it's possible to git gud at the camera by unlocking and locking it and positioning yourself in a certain way, it's a very unintuitive way to play and requires you to uncomfortably claw grip your controller. If the camera were better (say setting the FOV higher with CE or mods) and there was a little less visual clutter, it's actually a pretty good fight.
>>490181229Cute chicken.
I don't know whats up with dancing lion, but he took me more tries to beat than it took me to kill Malenia at RL1Legit one of the hardest bosses I've ever seen in a game
>>490181341dancing lion is like 10 times faster than anything in DS2
I like how wing stance looks with a shield (especially a greatshield).>>490181973Were you getting skibidis or stacking defensive buffs?
>>490181973It's harder to read his moves because he wriggles around like a worm. Also because you have to tard wrangle the camera.
>>490182061There he is… the knight of Fort Haight…
>>490182061>I like how wing stance looks with a shield.Too bad there's no blocking frames, but I guess that'd be OP.
>>490181037Truly a fate worse than death
>>490182061I get unreasonably upset when I see a type A without a big beard.
>>490181973I had to lower my game cycle from NG+7 to NG+ with cheat engine because otherwise it was an impossible battle. Even with my best weapon I barely tickled his health bar and he could two shot me.
Blood magic is probably the coolest shit FromSoft has ever added. The blood dynast weapons are also awesome. I love arcane!!
This DLC has made me realize that I don't really enjoy videogames anymore and perhaps I've never actually enjoyed themHuge waste of time really
>ANOTHER dream about miquella raping meI can't take it I'm going to try to stay up for as long as possible to escape sleeping
>>490181341He really does have that ds2 slop feel, half his attacks dont even look like attacks and just hit you out of nowhere
>>490170006I noticed a number of DLC build videos I've seen have started including RL200 builds. Is there much activity up there?
if you kill millicent at the end of her quest does she turn into a giant flower like malenia does?
>>490182761do you have any other hobbies?
>>490182965Anon forgot to bring Miquella's rune to break the bewitchment.
Think I've found a weird bug with the Shriek of Sorrow ash when it's in the offhandIf you activate it it will show weapons you have equipped but not in the selected hand as buffed. Once you toggle your main hand it will go away but then the other weapon you just switched from will show as buffed. This won't happen if the weapon with the ash is on the main hand, only the off hand. I discovered this by thinking that I could use the weapon until I was close to death, buff, then stack it with Rellana's Cameo. I guess since it counts as a weapon buff it only applies to that specific weapon but what confused me was the stat screen showing all my secondary weapons, even talismans as buffed. And before anyone says anything no I'm not toggling off the weapon that has the ash on it since that kills the buff entirely. Activating stance does technically put it away but when you return to normal the Shriek buff is still there so it's not getting overridden or anything. I'm just chalking it up to From jank but wondered if any anons had any input, maybe this is already known and they just don't care to fix it since it doesn't technically affect anything, outside of bugging out the stat display.
>>490181973I had a lot of trouble with him. But ultimately just jump attack. Thats what the devs wants you to do what the game rewards you the most.
>>490177206Bolt of GranKINO
>>490183249She does yes. You also get a unique item reward if you go that route.
>>490183410Yes but sadly they are related to videogames, like modding and fan art. I've been feeling pretty negative towards games for around a year now but the DLC really was the final blow, I felt only boredom or anger, I felt maybe 10 minutes of interest/fun throughout the whole thing. Made me realize that I'd rather just go to the bar and talk to people or drive around in my car or go hiking.
>>490181973Stand like 15ft back. It unfucks the camera, and 90% of his moves are him diving into you for an opening. Changes the entire fight
>>490184043And how am I supposed to hit him from 15ft away exactly
>>490183995go hiking more, its a fulfilling hobbylearn more about your local ecosystem and landmarksjust play video games when the sun is down and you cant do anything elseif all you do is play video games you will get burnt out
>>490183596isn't shriek of sorrow just the sword of milos' ash
>>490181157>>490181085That's really weird and not intuitive. Guess there's still a lot about this game that I don't understand.
>>490183995Not a bad thing or trade for your time honestly. And who knows, maybe you could have a resurgence of interest at some other points. If you've been gaming for too long, it's normal to feel fatigued and want to do some other stuff. Reading books and studying other subjects could be another way to use your free/hobby time as well.
>>490181973The quick 1-2 jab is genuinely one of the worst attacks in the game.
>>490184164>90% of his moves are him diving into you for an opening
>>490182761I came into the realization that I'm not really a gamer some time ago, it's a strange feeling considering how much time I have in some of them.
>>490170289
Will I be overleveled for the rest of the base game if I started the dlc as soon as I beat Mohg? I don't want the rest of the game to be too easy. Just beat Rellana and I'm level 150.
>>490185278What makes a "gamer" anon?
>>490182965Did you create a Miquella tulpa or something?
>>490185540kinda yeah, 150 is an appropriate level to beat the game with
>>490182965Tell me how you did it.
Miquella would be good at blowjobs
>>490184790Which attack? His whole moveset is a blur to me, it all just looks like a giant mess.
>>490185963No he wouldn't be.
>>490185623I know that sounds strange, but for example, I only played about 5 games in 7 years. I wouldn't say "I enjoy watching movies" if I only watched one in a single year.
>>490185623racism
>>490170782liking one and hating the other is good proof that you're either a coomer or a misogynist. they're so fucking identical.
I'm at Mountaintop of GiantsThis isn't funEverything has too much hp
>>490183194No, 150 is king
>>490185540there's no need to level in the dlc. all damage scaling in tbe dlc is skibidis
>>490185963why do you think he brought back Radahn without teeth?
how do i build euporia guys it doesn't look that strong
>>490170496BASED
>>490178857What can I do with 25 faith?
>>490184410The simplest way to explain it is something like this:If you have 5 Negation to physical damage, a 1000 physical damage attack will hit you 950 damage.If you add Dragoncrest Greatshield talisman, your physical negation will be listed as 24 (note: not 25), but if you take that same 1000 physical damage attack, you will now take 760 damage. You should see that 760 is 0.8 of 950, but its also 0.76 of 1000.Now let's say you have 50 negation to physical. A 1000 physical damage attack will hit you for 500 damage.If you add Dragoncrest Greatshield into the mix, you will have 60 negation listed, and that same 1000 damage attack will now hit you for 400 damage. Like before, 400 is 0.8 of 500 and 0.4 of 1000.Functionally, every single point of negation you get is reducing all incoming damage for exactly as much as it says it does. The negation number is simply the aggregate TOTAL negation you have to that damage type.
>>490185963If only he bewitched me like that
I want to have sex with St. Trina
>>490187530Cast the best buff in the game
With every new boss I fight, I realize that... ahh... you were at my side, all along... my true mentor, my guiding scalesword...!
What do you guys think Melina's biggest icks are?
>>490187170Sounds like a personal problem. I made that mountain my bitch.
>>490174713what works for me is i mash buttons like a drooling retard until my subconscious takes pity upon my and grants me mindless muscle memory reactions that work like a dice roll and allow me to reliably succeed a generous 10% of the time
>>490188074Footfags give Melina the ick. Which is a shame because her boots are probably pretty tight.
>>490182965unironically do not sleep deprive yourself to avoid nightmares or you'll end up like me giving yourself brain damage and making your loved ones cry about missing you while you are still alive, just smoke weed and enjoy the dreamless sleep
>>490183194150 is the most popular.125 second200 thirdthen it's 138 and lower
What's your opinion on Heavy Thrusting Swords?
>>490187170wait til you get to the DLC lmaoyou need to rethink your build if you are having trouble noob
>>490188662Shit
Is it normal to take 50+ tries for every single boss or am I mentally slow
Replaying without leveling str or dex, really showed my how gank bosses are fucking bullshit
is it possible to get on this hill?
>>490188074frenzied flame
>>490188814no
>>490188749You probably have a shit build, underleveled, or underupgraded
>>490188897Some people are just bad anon.
>>490188662best weapon class
>>490188662worst weapon class
>>490188662I would rather just use a regular thrusting sword or a spear
What's your opinion on the Misericorde weapon class? I noticed that there are other weapons in the Misericorde weapon class, such as Dagger.
>>490188662got pretty good at using the helice without even abusing the L2 or relying on proccing bleed but felt like a huge shitter the entire time regardless
>>490188897No to all. Even if I copy meta bleed builds they still take me 50+ tries because I physically cannot dodge in time and the only way I can learn is memorizing their entire moveset.
>>490188662I don't like missing rats on the floor because of the shit tracking but overall the class has some fun options.
It feels wrong how their remembrance describes Radahn and Miquella sharing a childhood. Rennala must've given birth to triplets and gotten dumped the very next day for the timeline to make sense.
>>490188749You need to pick up the scat fragments, brosis. Don't tell me you took the general seriously when they said that picking them up was for shitters.
>>490189264any dagger is more fun than the misericorde, even the parrying dagger is more fun than misericorde for style and rule of cool alone Verification not required.
>>490189498...sense?
>>490188709>>490189174are you serious because i genuinely think its the best weapon class
>>490189498Time is convoluted in the Lands Between, as well as the Land of Shadow.
>if I beat the boss with anything but a single straight sword I don't feel satisfied>if I actually beat the boss with the straight sword I don't have funHow do I fix my brain
>>490189945falchion
>>490189780Is this the nanomachines of FromSoft lore?
>>490189780what a coincidence, time was convoluted in lordran, drangleic, and lothric too
>>490189945Bro, your one-handed greatsword? It's basically like a straight sword but a bit slower.
>>490189945there is no cure for autism
If Kuro was in Elden Ring they would’ve randomly had him betray Sekiro because immortality is so cool and then it would turn out Kuro bewitched Owl and Genichiro himselfElden Ring is also comedically pessimistic when it comes to its characters which doesn’t help. Ansbach and Thioller randomly dying of heart attacks after Consort Radahn made me laugh though. Up there with Thops dropping dead for no reason and Boc dying because your character randomly chose not to share the Rebirth Rune.
>>490189498Adding on to this: keep in mind Marika only had three kids with Godfrey over the course of two thousand years or whatever. But Radagon must have sired no fewer than five in a remarkably short period of time, and then fathered no more for another thousand years or whatever.
Why does From keep making these shitty spazzy bosses against which you can get 1 or at best 2 attacks inFucking bullshit, make their health bars bigger and give them longer pauses so I can actually use more than 1 attack. Or don't waste any more money on movesets and just give every weapon a 2-attack chain.
>>490190179Elden Ring highlights all of From's worst traits when it comes to story telling and how they develop their games.And they won't learn from it at all.
>>490190179They would also make Kuro gay- wait nevermind.Sekiro would also get a wif- wait nevermind.
>>490190179Those all make "sense" (because they came up with on the why) but it's still very shitty, yeah.>Yoo, I'm the Elden Lord>Not a single person is alive
>play against chinese person>win>teabag>point down>block>report for cheatingL get fucked chink :)
>>490189498How does it not make sense? >Rad fuq Ren>Ren gave birth to 3 kids>Rad divorced Ren>Rad went and fuck himself>Gave birth to Miq>3 kids got to teenager years or what fucking ever >"Rook son, its ur half brothers and sister">"I want to fug da big one, dad"
>>490188749Depends on the boss really. Dancing Lion took me 230 tries, Rellana 10, frenzy guy 4, Radahn 100...
>>490190737All chinks should be locked into their own containment zone so we don't have to put up with their subhuman behavior
I don't feel bad for spamming parries on Radahn at all.
>>490190179>Ansbach and Thioller randomly dying of heart attacksNo? Despite being advertised as an open world and choice matters game, Elden ring has a very railroad story. Ansbach and Thioller died in their fight against Radahn >But i didn't summon themIt doesn't matter, they died in their fight against Radahn. Much in the same way that Mohg body got randomly transported. Much in the same way that no matter who you discovered / killed first Gideo will always word it as though you fought Malenia before Mohg
POST HEADCANONS
>>490191909moon ending is the canon ending
>>490191909Ranni and Melina are the same person pretending they're not
>>490191909It would actually be kino if one of the cannons you got was some fucked up shit that you fired from a helmet.
>>490191909Messmer and Melina are Marika's first children born from her and the Gloam Eyed Queen but they were kept secret so Godfrey and the Golden Lineage get called the first Demigods even though they aren't, just like how Godfrey gets called the First Elden Lord even though he actually isn't.
>>490191187God you're a broken record of faggotry
>>490192215Elaborate please
>>490191909Ranni gets her tall redhead body back and she and the Tarnished have moon-breaking sex for 1000 years.
>>490191909Sellen uses perforated glintstone to keep her soles smooth and soft despite walking around barefoot.
>>490191187Because you do fight malenia before mohg
who here is a strength enjoyer?At least 35 endurance by level 90 am I right?
>>490170687>no mandatory double or triple lion guardian fight>no mandatory several back to back standard and lion guardians between bonfiresthe one thing i dislike is making the dungeons easier than the bosses. they should be on par with one another.
>>490192814There is nothing that stop you from fighting Moh and Miq before Malenia
Rannis ghost face isn't melinas face. Its nearly the same face as her doll face.
>>490192997As anon said the story is railroaded. What you can do doesnt matter. What happens is malenia is fought before mohg
>>490191909I save Messmer after he curses his mother out and try to nurse him back to health!Only to fail and hold his hand as he dies, telling him funny stories about my life to distract him!
Anyone tried a run utilizing all the craftable shit? Is it fun?
>>490193336nonobody has ever used any of t hat stuff
What's your favorite armor set? For me it's tree sentinel.
>>490193528Death Knight, not even a competition. Carian Knight is second place however.
>>490193528honestly the basic lordsworn surcoats just look great
>First DLC boss would be a dead Godrick with death blight bread instead of fire>Death Blight lake that we would cross with a Tibia Mariner that would act as Charon>It would be in the future (following Ranni's questline) where almost everyone died since burning the Erdtree caused an Ice Age (Flower Malenia and Fish Godwyn would still be alive though)>Miquella would have the same role as Melina but showing up in dreams instead (make sure to sit on all sites of graces at night and "sleep")>If you killed Malenia before talking to Miquella (and not giving her the needle) his "tree form" would "see" it, and once he returns (somehow) both of them would hate you instead of being allies>Miquella and Malenia would merge together to solve both of their cursesNone of my "predictions" happened...
>>490193203The idea of him dying slowly is so cute
>>490191909Marika's shattering of the Elden Ring and the rTree rejecting you is on purpose in order to create am eternal war because she thinks it's the only way to keep the world free from the Greater Will/influence of Outer Gods for everyone to keep competing forever
>>490194432Gideon pls, even Goldmask knows more than you.
>>490193803thank god
>>490193670DK, Horned Warrior and Oathseeker are all sauced
>>490194671I know, in my bones...
>>490191909Melina as per her dialog, and by extention messmer, weren't actually born of marika, as melina herself says. Marika created them through some other means, either through a similar type of egg that radagon have to rennala, some pot bullshit, or, like Albinaurics, they're hommunculi but more stable due to being made with the help of marika and the erdtree, hence melinas being born at the base of the erdtree dialog.
>>490194765rude
>>490194239I mean, it is not all but implied that Messmer is going to die after in the second phase of his fight, given the damage that his body suffered in the course of the Abyssal Serpent exerting itself?
>>490192852i am, but two-handed sword.the two-handed talisman is a godsendso is the fire knight's greatsword
>>490193528Raging Wolf, Carian Knight, Oathseeker Knight, Divine Bird Warrior, any of the Nox sets, the starter Hero set, Black Knight, Cuckoo Knight, Rellana's Armor, Maliketh's Armor, banished Knight, Travelling Noble set, the Black Knife Assassin set, the Beast Champion set...there's just too many great sets. I can't decide.
>>490191909Ranni is really into shibari and weak to cunnilingus.
>>490170687Why are these niggers not resistant to holy damage like other crucible related guys, like the omens, crucible knights, and the divine beast dancers? Even the hippo and the hornsent commoners are relatively (to themselves) resistant to holy damage. What gives?
>>490195616Raging wolf might be my favorite if it weren't a wig set. Also I would like to know how anyone sees from that visor.
>>490191909Everything in the Land of Shadows is a dream and didn't happen. Miquella is still a kind brother who was unexpectedly kidnapped and is looking for a way to get home to Malenia
>>490196259It's not really headcanon if it's better than the real story.
>>490191909your character is the reincarnation of the gloam-eyed queen, which is why you can wield the godslayer's greatsword to its full effect
>>490191909Some are memes but I still like them>Godfrey and marika genuinely loved eachother >Radahn and godwyn were friends>Rykard was one of the most likable demigods before he went crazy>The player tarnished is a descendant of godfrey>Sellen is a former carian vassal much like jerren or a distant relative>The fingerslaying blade was used on metyr >The sword of damnation was made of a similar gold to miquella's unalloyed gold>demons souls, bloodborne, dark souls, and elden rings universes were all made by the greater will>patches appears in all of these because he's a universal constant, something that always results from the greater will's creation of a setting and he's aware of this>godwyn has some sort of connection with the twinbird outergod >malenia and morgott used to spar>malenia and radahn used to spar>radahn taught blaidd how to fight to better protect ranni>maliketh liked belly rubs>godwyn visited mohg and morgott in the sewers >at the time of the shattering wars morgott was actually the strongest demigod but few knew of him>miquella braided radahn's hair>godwyn fucked and perhaps married a dragon>godwyn having crucible juice in him from godfrey and shaman melded flesh from marika is what caused his body to mutate so much after his soul died>numen isn't a shared culture, simply a race>marika's people were numen who chose to be hippies rather than live in cities>nanaya was a frenzy maiden like hyetta>renna was the name of the snow witch, and rennala's mother/grandmother>rennala and rellana have a third unaccounted for sister >rya after she leaves the lands between will make her own weird faction that takes in unwanted people but with less or no snake sacrifice or blasphemy>miquella carried off mohg's corpse lifting strength wise he's the strongest character in the setting even able to lift original body radahn if needed he just can't take a hit>roderika is a descendant of the shamans
i don't think i've ever used an ash of war and i basically only ever used somber weapons past very early gameif i'm going into ng+ with an arcane build is there anything i should look into in terms of regular weapons/ashes of war? 40 str/dex so i can use basically whatever
>>490196259>>490196752It's still headcanon even if it's better. That's the point of headcanon actually
I wanna play a FromSoft souls game that takes place in the apex of its civilization where all gods and deities and legends are at the peak of their power with no references to Berserk
>>490196995No
>>490196259Miquella is still kind and a loving brother nothing about that changed. He always sent malenia after radahn, this is a fact. The reason we just didn't know why and the reasoning matters little compared to his care for her.
>>490197042Won't ever happen in a Western fantasy game, this format is clearly a huge creative crutch for them and makes Miyazaki unable to think rationally. You should want more games like Bloodborne and Sekiro, even though I personally prefer Dark Souls and consider Western fantasy my favorite genre.
>>490196851>Godfrey and marika genuinely loved eachotherThey did in the cut dialogue, but cut dialogue can't be taken as canon.
>>490196851>Rykard was one of the most likable demigods before he went crazyHe was always a bit nuts but his personal charisma is emphasized more than any demigod other than Miquella. He would have been very popular with his men but probably not with the public.
>>490197212>care for your sis>send her and her army to get massacred because your lover boy rejected youi think we have different definitions of "care"
>>490197201"Headcanon is a slang term that refers to a fan's personal interpretation of a fictional story's details that aren't part of the official account. In other words, it's what a fan believes or wants to be true about a story, as opposed to what's been confirmed by the author or director."It's by definition headcanon, your issue is, you take headcanon as an inherently bad thing, when that's simply not the case. Yes, many headcanons are retarded, but the concept of making headcanon itself isn't, especially when used as a coping tool to do away with objectively bad writing. For example, loads of headcanons came out after many saints of newark released. The primary one was that Chris was actually reading one of his screenplays of the events he witnessed while in hell.
>>490197042I mean, compared to DS ER leans a lot more in that direction(other than the Berserk references part). Maybe we'll get there in a decade, though the problem is they'd have to actually make and populate towns with living sane people then.
>>490197554No matter what miquella always sent malenia after radahn. It's her character to do whatever he asks. It would've been better to send him to stop his halting of the stars, but she was never after power. She never took any land, morgott allowed her through leyndell, she never took godricks rune even after beating him, she booked it straight towards radahn. She was sent on a mission.
>>490184410Its not that hard to grasp senpai. If the absorption is additive you can easily get over 100% absorption, which would trivialise the game. Multiplicative stacking for ensures that you get big returns when your pre-buffed defence is small, while not making it ridiculous when its high. For example, eating crab gives you 15% physical absorption. If you have 10% absorption, the incoming physical damage is now dmg*(0.85)*(0.9), or 0.764 (23.6% absorption). This is more than double your original absorption, btw.The tldr for the defence system in ER is that once incoming damage is sufficiently enough, even a tiny bit of absorption buff could be immensely helpful, especially if you consider the amount of healing you have at your disposal.If an incoming damage is 2000, having 10% absorption would result in you taking 1800 damage. At 23.6%, you will instead take 1528. Its all about effective HP.
>>490197554She wanted to be his blade. Always. A blade does the will of the master. So yes, sending her to fetch radahn still means he cares, he made it clear he'd come back to her after becoming a god, this is from what malenia herself says. She's waiting for miquella to return. And there's no reason to not think miquella wouldn't have returned to her if we didn't murder him for no reason.
>>490197568Don't care
>>490197042I love my tarnished being the base for this meme. Cheers bro.
headcannonbros not sure what to use for a blunt weapon on my INT guymagic infused morning star? family heads flail?
>>490198073Accept you're wrong or become my bf.
>>490198293Doesn't make any sense
>>490197991miquella likely brainwashed her to feel this way towards him, anon.he got countless men killed, along with his sister (effectively). he destroyed a landscape and created a new god of rot. all because of his own aspirations.he's as evil as you can be.
>>490198439What doesn't make sense
>>490198292Stone Club, it's literally for battlemages.
>>490192551her body got DESTINED. i think the best she can do is sex with illusions
>>490191909Metyr and the Elden Beast are space Mormons, them being sent to the planet of Elden Ring is their equivalent to how young adult Mormons are sent on missions to proselyte others in non-Mormon areas Bayle the Dread inspired a lot of the religious beliefs of the Hornsent, including their practice of jarring Shamans By preventing any cosmic laws from being further modified, Goldmask's ending ensured that the Lands Between would be stagnant forever more, until someone broke the Elden Ring again The Fell God is a child/offshoot of the Frenzied Flame
>>490198472>miquella likely brainwashed herCope. You fell for the psyop in thinking miquella was evil. Also gowry's dialog hints at and miyazki himself outright said that malenia nuking caelid was unintentional. She aimed to poison radahn with her blood. She didn't know she'd explode.
>>490198292baby rattle
Is monster hunter any good? I feel like I may as well cut out the middleman with whatever the absolute unholy FUCK fromsoft is trying to do with their cunt ass bosses now and just play the actual thing they try to rip off from. Every cocksucking boss in elden meme just runs away while using AoE, dash attacks and/or laser-tacke-AoE combos all at once so if I'm gonna literally have to hunt these nigger bosses in their own closed arena as they run away from me and lame the out then I may as well hunt some actual fucking monster bosses in the source material, potentially minus the visual clutter and orbital lasers. I know monster hunter has infamously shit hitboxes too so whatever, I'll take it.
>>490199041Monster Hunter is the definition of normie slop.
>>490170289kekekekekek
I think I completely forgot the path to Mohg under Leyndell, do I have to go past the two crayfish or was it on the revenants area
>>490199615it takes 10 minutes at mostgo explore
>>490199041MH hasn't had ridiculous hitboxes since FU desu.It's a completely different game than souls, for all intents and purposes, MH is a boss rush game.That said the combat and boss fights are miles better than from's lol. Even the best from boss would barely pass as a drome fight in MH.
>>490199041Yes it isWorld was a lot of funHaven't tried riseIt's a cool as fuck game especially with other people
Malenia.
>>490178160i need PANZERSCHOKOLADE in my life
>>490197042Literally impossible for Miyazaki.
EldenRing dlc retconned fingercreepers, what else did they retcon?
>>490197042Easy, just let Armored core and Sekiro directors and writers make the game. Miyazaki should just stop writing his vague bullshit.
Just killed Mohg for the first time, did it in one try. People actually spent like 6 hours and 200 tries on that guy lmao. How does that happen?
>>490201052which mohgi mean i don't think either mohg should take that long, but one is decidedly easier than the other.
Debating if I go for 45/45 or 66/24 INT and FAITHActually no now that I think about it are there even any good incantations that take over 24 faith to cast?
>>490201121The one in Moghwyn palace.
Miquella is the hero btw
>>490201052I didn't beat him in one try and kinda struggled, but nowhere near to the point of Melania-tier struggle. Above-average difficulty for me.
>>490201052Could be a build difference or weapon choice. I for one struggled a lot with godskin duo, until i realised they have high strike absorption.
>>490201610I really doubt you dealt with nihil on your first try unless you read about it first.dont even pretend to tell me you had the tear and equipped it before entering the room for the first time.
>>490202375secret to godskin duo if you're not good at fighting either of them is to just ignore the fat fuck because the fight only really goes to shit when he starts rolling around while the apostle is still up.of course sleep pots are always an option too
Replaying Demon's Souls while grieving from the awful DLC initially made me feel deeply nostalgic for the older games and only increased my despair, but after a while I started to appreciate Elden Ring more even with my knowledge of all that was lost in transition. But the open world still only feels less impressive with time, it was a mistake artistically even if it made them a lot of money.
So what's up with these guys? Why do they all look the same? Why do they have half of rennala's eye color and half of the golden grace eyes? Was rennala trying to make a new body for ranni? Didn't ranni have red hair? Who are these supposed to be
>whopping 55/55 intfth gets you a 321 ugly beyond staff rating>swap to 75/35 and you get 388 lusat and 341 golden order sealWhy the FUCK does fromsoft hate the funny splitbuild
>>490203025Rennala was mindbroken when Radahn left her and used her great rune and the egg he left her to continuously try and birth new children to fill the void in her heart he left behind. Those "sweetings" are only half living simulacrums of life as a result, they aren't real people.
>>490203025I think they're kind of sexy because they have pretty eyes and also girlsAlso their set implies they were reborn with rennalas mayonegg but they didn't turn out so good
>>490203260You mean radagon?
>>490203025>>490203260>when Radahn left herI meant Radagon, of course. Too many fucking R names.
>>490203328>rennalas mayonegg
>>490202426>>490202375ng+, power stancing maliketh's blade and the grafted blade, level 160, mimic tear with a meat dumpling in my inventory so he can heal, tree sentinel armor with phys negation talisman + 2 so I take 45% less damage.
>>490203395The names are pretty much all G M and R btwGeorge R.R. Martin
>>490202998The dlc was fine. Disagree and you will become my bf
>>490203383Yeah see >>490203395 I blame GRRM for that typo.
Gonna cure and marry Malenia.
>>490203527ur dumb
>>490204092Now you're my bf. How do you feel?
>>490197991>And there's no reason to not think miquella wouldn't have returned to her if we didn't murder him for no reason.He didn't even bother to look for her after Caelid and cocooned himself for no reason, he doesn't give a fuck about her
How am I supposed to get this one thing? The (((merchant))) on the lower floor doesn't seem to aggro no matter what I do.Is it anything worth shit? It's the one that's right in front of the Fingerprint shield
>>490204359The place was a eradiated hellhole he only got freyja because she wondered was far enough away. You WANT him to be worse than he actually is. That's your problem and you're upset over it. Miquella was never bad in any regard ever pre or post dlc
>>490204234depends, are you cute?
>>490204027As much as I enjoy Malenia's tragedy of gradually losing herself I feel like her story is a case where a happy ending is the objectively more satisfying conclusion.
>>490204709Yes but I'm mentally ill
>the single black dude in the game is a prisoner, named Blackguard, sells crawfish and the only thing he does is steal before getting raped to deathI literally cannot get over this. How the fuck did they get away with it
>>490191909malekith was the gloam eyes shadow and marika seduced him into ganking the queen so marika could take her place as the chosen empyrean
>>490205054that's okay, I am too
>>490205057He's not black. At worst he's Brazilian. He has a caucasian skull structure and blue eyes
Melina sounds legitimately sad about you inheriting the Frenzy Flame
>>490199904Calling mh a boss rush hurts me in my sovl
>>490205408wow, the one part of the game in which she doesn't speak in a monotoneyou could remove melina from the game and nothing important would change
what's the point of physical builds when magic builds have comparably good melee options with spells on top of that
>>490205408Best ending.All elden lord endings are 1/10. Stars ending is OK.
>>490205574you could remove all NPC from the game and 0 things about it would change unironically
>>490205408>>490205574Who the fuck is melina
Just got all the cheevos after killing yung Placidusax. I think I'm gonna stop playing video games for a while. I need to start seriously investing in my education. I've been trudging through college this last year or so but that's not enough. I need to be working my butt off, not just doing the bare minimum. Though I do look forward to the next fromsoft game and will join you all to shitpost again in its general thread.>Goodbye.... Zanzibart.
If you kill Maliketh without having given all deathroot to the Beast Clergy, you can't get the rest of the incants for that playthrough, can you?
>>490202983Ye. Now i always use the sleep trick, but tbf the foreskin duos were more of a menace before their AI nerf, so it could easily be that too.>>490203476Very cool, but i assume all you did was jump L1 though because the neutral attacks on the PS colossal swords/weapons are dogshit.
>>490205808what's the point of youalso they can use every ash in the game with no downside
>>490206278Yes you can. Farum Azula is stuck in a timewarp. He'll still be there if you go back to his temple on the ground.
prove your lore knowledge and explain which of the in-game flames is the hottest:>fire giants flame>frenzy flame>messmer flame>blood flame>ghost flame
Is anybody having stuttering issues on the current patch. Even fighting minor enemies is dropping fps by 4-5.
>>490205808thats why magic has always been considered an ez mode. I think it's supposed to be balanced by giving up health flasks and an extra resource to manage. Also in melee your damage isn't going to compare to an actual melee build. they also typically have less poise damage but I don't think that matters since crits aren't really your goal. some spells have long wind ups so starting the cast needs to be timed to a proper opening. I still think it's a bit of an easy mode and I think that's intended because From has never bothered to change this trend.though i'm not sure about SOTE, the bosses have such insane gap closer punishment moves and such short breaks that most spells seem like suicide.
>>490206579Messmer cause its warcrime magic
>>490206579>>fire giants flamebretty hot doe>>frenzy flamemelts everything WINRAR>>messmer flamei don't know the dlc lore is bad so idk maybe its hot>>blood flameit looks very cosy from being red>>ghost flameinflicts frostbite so no
>>490206579Frenzy. For one main reason. It can burn ghosts and torrent shows fear against it
>>490205057just a swarthy fellow. there are no nigs in the lands between
I am braplenia stench of miqueefa
everyone who said 200 was the new meta lied to me
>>490206579gon say frenzy since it's the only one capable of burning all of existence into annihilation to return things to the state of the one great
>>490206693Magic is easy mode, true, but some of the reasons youve listed there arent entirely true.>Melee damageThats up to your enemy's defence. In general as long as your AP is greater than around 20% than an equivalent pure physical weapon, you will likely see comparable damage, again barring any elemental weakness or resistance.>poise damageEntirely dependent on weapon class. Upgrades or infusions changes nothing. In addition, crit damage relies more on raw ar of a weapon (temporary buff excluded), so infused weapons will also tend to do more critical damage (at least for daggers).Its more about additional resources to manage, and at low level you also have to contend with lower stats efficiency for your build in general. Magic offers a lot of tools though, for both pve and pvp. I never go into an invasion without my cannon of haima.
>>490205057He isn't black.
>>490207049>silly copers begging everyone to play vs their mega golemsOf course they did
>>490206579>>fire giants flameCandidate, due to being able to burn the erdtree but likely second place.>>frenzy flameLikely the hottest, as it can incinerate all life in existence.>>messmer flameNah.>>blood flameNah.>>ghost flameThis one is cold.Also you forgot Black Flame, which also isn't the hottest. Not without Destined Death being housed in it anymore at least.
>>490206951I'm one
>>490207049Wrong, I get constant near instant activity at 200. Nice job falseflagging though.>>490207607Eat shit. Lol
>>490204556Its like a cookbook or something. You can aggro by hitting him (just dont kill him)
>>490204556iirc, one of those has the merchant set and the other is a recipe that lets you craft frenzyflame stones
>>490204714yes
malenia should be euthanized
Is he gonna stuff himself with Dialos?Is Jar Bairn doomed?
>>490183995Your brain is telling you to fuck off with sitting around all day and to go do something. Generally kicks in within 2-3 hours for the average person.
wow mohg is easy if you just stay in melee range
>>490208619She should be married to me
>>490208763most bosses are, by design.game doesn't make this very clear though or otherwise obviously promote it, unlike BB (rally), and sekiro (visible poise bar)
its me schizo lore manhit me with the latest lore developments and/or your schizolore takes, especially on the dlc. im fiendin, craving, jonsein for your hot takes
>>490208950>most bosses areyes>by design.questionable
>>490208974Be my bf
>>490205390Even the Reedlander default face only looks maybe 1/4rth Japanese. Being Caucasoid is hardcoded into the character creator, will will never sell out to Big Negro like capcom.
>>490208974also doesnt this painting, iseult by gaston b. rizzle kind of remind you of marika
some dude seriously summoned for Godskin Noble at 150 +25
Duo fights are the only thing i will ever use summons for in fromsoft games
>>490204617She was literally in the middle of the swamp retard, you can't get more irradiated than that. Miquella isn't affected by the rot anyways given that he's been around Malenia his entire life
>>490210092Godskins are an annoying overused enemy but you can just posture break the duo to death without much trouble. I can't believe how many people I saw complaining about the apes in Sekiro too, it's trivial to kill the brown one with the mortal blade.
>>490210310She says she wandered away from the field. Keep coping. Miquella will always be a loving brother.
>>490209830its called having funon my first playthrough of base and DLC i did a super honest build and no summoning at all. then in future runs i had fun summoning for every boss, summoning at most dungeons etc. locking yourself out of a fun game mechanic makes you a lamewad loser
messmer's eye is the darksign
>>490210813you can also flashbang kill the brown ape in several seconds since it's still an animal.
>>490210813souslike combat doesnt lend itself to duo bosses unless they take turns or have some gimmick that makes them essentially a solo fight
>>490206149she's my wife
Miquella regrew his loveWhy do I think this? In his original body he only had 2 arms we see this multiple times. He gets rid of both and his eyes, but in his godform he has spectral arms AND a fleshy arm so he regrew and arm and got spectral replacements for the others. He also has eyes, before radahn hops in the air miquella opens his eyes despite removing them.As a god miquella very clearly got replacements for the things he discarded, if he discarded his love he likely got a replacement if everything else got one as well.God miquella isn't an unloving sociopath, him caressing radahn shows this as well.
Why is it so hard to crit hit Hippo and Gaius?Literally standing right next to their glowing spots after breaking them and my guy is just doing regular attacks.
>>490211726Im always thought its some sort of metamorphosis imagery. He was, after all, in a cacoon. Now hes got 6-1 limbs. Thats really all i got though.
>>490211961Gaius is a bitch.
Roderika has a fat ass why is she always sad
>>490211414the camera is a lot of the problem.MKB actually makes duo fights a lot easier because you basically never have to lock on thanks to mouse aiming and precise flick looking around (though movement is a bit less precise since its involves juggling the camera with your 8 moves directions)only true for elden ring because you can disable ALL the auto camera correction shit. gets even better with the mod that lets you bind keys to specific items and separately bind dodge and run so your dodge is on press rather than release.
>>490212286Really? I just fought him like Gyoubu and he wasn't too bad. The Sekiro tear and Milady+Shield melted him. He's one of the few bosses where guard counters work really well against since he's not ninja flipping all around the arena at the end of every combo chain. If he was getting away, I'd just wing stance lunge right up to him. I think the trap people fall in is thinking they should fight him on Torrent.
>>490210813I just cheesed them with sleep. Turned a 2v1 into a 1v1 basically.
>>490210901>Malenia missing>no urgency in cocooning himself since Radahn isn't dead and he has no way to kill him at this time>doesn't look for her and cocoons himself anyways for no reasonKeep coping, there is no excuse for him abandoning her, if Finlay wasn't there she would've died. It also doesn't say that
FromSoftware is at a turning point where asset and engine stagnation is not unlikely going to burn them with the next release like CDPR going from Witcher 3 to Cyberpunk 2077
jesus was farum azula always this big this feels eternal
>>490213028I accept your concession
>>490213028Brainwashed by anti-miquella propaganda lol
>>490213028Malenia is present, he cacooned himself to place himself in the land of shadows in a deathlike state. He doesn't need to look for her he knows where she is, he just can't reach her
>>490213956>>490214179Not an argument
>>490206579>Fire giants flameThe hottest in lore, it ties to the very concept of fire and is linked to an outergod> FrenzyIt's only hot if the afflicted doesn't accept it. It's essentially the most dangerous but the main source of damage isn't physical, but rather the maddening that returns people into their origin(nothing)>MessmerPretty hot, not only is it a kindling(meaning it can burn non-corporeal beings) but it also very slow burning so it's perfect for torture>Ghost flamethis shit is just fire shaped ice honestly. It's hot in the same way pouring straight nitrogen into the skin is hot. Corrosive basically
>>490214395>Malenia is presentNo she isn't, she was being dragged home by Finlay>he cocooned himself to place himself in the land of shadowsWhich is completely pointless to do as Radahn and Mohg aren't dead and he has no way to ensure they die (less so for Radahn)>He doesn't need to look for her he knows where she is, he just can't reach herIf he knew where she was why didn't he help her after Caelid and re-needle her
Miquella is bad because all twinks are evil demons
Smooth out the honeycomb chestpiece and remove the pointy pauldrons and this set might actually look nice. As it stands, it makes you look like a peanut.
>>490213028I'd like to also add that while malenia was unconscious radahn likely was as he was able to move beyond redmane castle to the dunes. I think, similar to what we see of millicent and her sister who's present in the haligtree maybe? And at the end of malenias boss, I think when she nuked she stayed wrapped in that scarlet flower only coming out when she regained consciousness. It's likely why radahn didn't just squish her while she was out. He probably didn't want to touch the irradiated plant that'd just slid off of his back
>>490214650radahn was kneeling and paralyzed after getting stabbed.
Do all the dragons in farum give an ancient dragon stone?
>>490214606What if I want to look like a waffle?
>>490214908no but two do
>>490214557>no she isn't.Yes she is, she's in a specific spot. Only after the battle did finlay drag her off>which is pointless Not at all, he'd go around the land or shadows and explore, learn more of what's needed to get to the divine gate and wait for them to be killed >why didn't he re-needleHe didn't have the needle on or near him and it was damaged, he'd have to trek through the irradiated swamp alone to find the needle first then her and even if he was able to hold off the affects on the rot for himself, it's unlikely he would've been able to for anyone near him, which means that he'd have to traverse a battle field one with some people as seen by freyja still wandering it, alone. It would be better to go back to the haligtree than risk being cut down. Malenia wanted nothing more than to have miquella's dream come true, if miquella dies looking for her that dream becomes impossible. He needs to be safe and to undergo a specific ritual to shove him in the land of shadows. Else what happened to her would be for nought
>>490214816And he eventually got up and ran off we know this for a fact
what are the best ARC weapons?
Was this place a victim of cuts?
>>490215453whole game is cut content
>>490215124>Yes she is, she's in a specific spot. Only after the battle did finlay drag her offAnd Miquella arrived after the battle>Not at all, he'd go around the land or shadows and explore, learn more of what's needed to get to the divine gate and wait for them to be killedHe already knows about the secret rite. None of his followers know where the fuck he is or what he's even doing, he couldn't even bother to give them a heads up. Reminder that they're blowing themselves up because they think he's lost. Just waiting for hundreds of years on the chance that they both die is objectively stupid as fuck.>He didn't have the needle on or near him and it was damaged, he'd have to trek through the irradiated swamp alone to find the needle first then her and even if he was able to hold off the affects on the rot for himself, it's unlikely he would've been able to for anyone near him, which means that he'd have to traverse a battle field one with some people as seen by freyja still wandering it, alone. It would be better to go back to the haligtree than risk being cut down. Malenia wanted nothing more than to have miquella's dream come true, if miquella dies looking for her that dream becomes impossible. He needs to be safe and to undergo a specific ritual to shove him in the land of shadows. Else what happened to her would be for noughtEven if he was somehow susceptible to the rot (which he fucking isn't given that he literally succed it out of Freyja and again, has been with Malenia his entire life), he can send his soldiers to organize a search party. Or charm a bunch of people to do it. Or do literally anything at all to help her, it's not hard he's a fucking demigod with a fuckton of resources.
>Expected Malania vs Radahn to be DEX vs STR>It is actually DEX vs DEX
>>490215453We see Miquella sitting in it in the trailer, which of course never happens in the actual game.
miranda should have been a much harder boss and found later on
>>490215605His soldiers would get rotted out and die. He'd just lose all of his men or have his forces drastically dwindled. Send his soldiers out they're as good as dead. Go out himself he could be cut down by some wandering fucker.
>>490215292ripple halberd because its buffablebloody helice is OPdlc rot halberd looks cool but AoW sucks.rest suck, just boring IMO not necessarily bad. mogh's spear has a cool AoW but it feels real disappointing you just poke with it when Mohg makes it look so awesome. I don't like weapons smaller than regular greatswords just my opinion
>>490206579madness is since it burns everything away. it's beyond the flames of destined death.
>>490215292mohg's or bloodfiend's arm. they're two of the best weapons in the game, and just behind blasphemous.rivers of blood used to be a contender until babies cried, but even pre-nerf rob isn't as good as mohg's or bloodfiend's.
>>490215605There was nothing he could do that wouldn't result in his own potential death or the death of those around him. Malenia would've nearly died to ensure his goals are met, him being alive and making it back to cocoon himself was necessary for those plans. Why wouldn't he continue with the one thing his beloved sister nearly died for in her honor knowing that any other option leads with both of them potentially dead in aeonia
>>490206579>Fire GiantBurns everything physical >Frenzy Burns away the mind/ border of your soul, hence madness>MessmerGiant flame, but snake themed since it was eaten by the serpent >Blood flameFlame, but blood>Ghost flameBurns spirit So if we are talking temperature then Messmer / Giant flame is the hottest since the other flames aren't really "flame"
>>490206579you're missing destined death and black flames. also stock fire.
>>490215816>There was nothing he could do that wouldn't result in his own potential death or the death of those around him.Yeah like how the Cleanrots were all dead before they ever saw battle. Oh wait that's not how the rot works at all>>490216196>making it back to cocoon himselfFor no fucking reason, again, his plan cannot proceed at all until Radahn and Mohg are dead. NOBODY knew what the fuck he was doing, and if we just leave Mohg alone he is permacucked. Even pragmatically it would make sense to search for Malenia since she's the only person who could actually kill them. Why are you still acting like he's susceptible to the rot? He isn't, that his entire shtick.
>people expecting Miquella to be like Kuro>he's just Griffith/Gwyndolin insteadlol. hasn't fiction taught you anything? people with mindcontrol are ALWAYS evil.
>>490216270frenzy's goal is to burn away all of reality
>>490215453Everything to do with the Scadutree is blatantly cut content with ostensibly cut content like Godwyn/Death close behind
>>490216746Clean rots are malenias knights they're more resistant to the rot than others. Miquella's own warriors wouldn't be the cleanrots and wouldn't have the resistances. And she's not the only person. The tarnished were coming. It's something melina quotes marika in saying. The tarnished would return and wage war in the lands between and stand before the elden ring. They'd need the strength of the great runes to get there, and thus demigods would need to die. Radahn having an entire festival dedicated towards killing him and mohg leading a relatively open but still hostile blood cult are obvious targets besides the weak godrick.
>>490216746NTA but no one's. And I do mean no ones plan can proceed without us. That's the point of the story. We're the guy who does everything solves every problem and brings hope or destruction to the lands between
>>490216746Yes that's the point of the shattering wars lore. To show that the demigods are all retarded and they've bungled things so much to a fucked up stalemate where they're all just sitting around hitting a metaphorical brick wall in their plans without some op powerhouse showing up. Even marikas plan doesn't work without the tarnished. It's why goldmask is right about marika and her ilk they're a bunch of retards who shouldn't have the power they did.
>>490217337>Clean rots are malenias knights they're more resistant to the rot than others. Miquella's own warriors wouldn't be the cleanrots and wouldn't have the resistances.That's complete fucking headcanon, there's no inherent "rot resist". >The tarnished were coming.Miquella didn't know this, the Tarnished plan was kept a secret.
>>490218330That's complete fucking headcanon there's nothing that states the tarnished plan was kept a secret especially since melina knows about it
>>490218448Melina has Marika's psyche beamed into her you fucking moron. Also>use my extremely powerful demigod sister who is still alive and just needs some rest to fulfill the pre-conditions to my plan>wait for some random murderhobo who I have no connection to to somehow do this while everything I worked for goes to complete shit and also hope he doesn't try killing me tooJust accept the story is dogshit and Miquella's character got butchered, it's not hard and much easier than writing poorly supported fanfiction
People just want to be held by a cuter serial killing knight.
>>490218330>"The winged golden blade deals holy damage. The diminutive shield is blessed with an incantation that wards off rot."They have anti-rot incantations other factions aren't noted to have
>>490218608Everything made a lot more sense when Miquella was subtly helping (us).
>>490218608>melina has marikas psyche beamed into herAAAAND Headcanon. Yeah I think we're done here. I accept your concession, you could keep seething while I laugh at you or you can move on with your day.
>>490218660Dude why d'you call me out like that?
Anons I have a theory.>Miyazaki's self insert is Radahn.>Radahn is ""hypnotized"" and made into Miquella's boytoy.>Miyazaki's fetish is Hypno femboys topping him.Can a fromsoftsister (femboy) from here seduce Miyazaki and make him retire? Fromsoft will finally be free from his tyranny. Maybe we will get games with some actual story and mechanics and they wont be cut 5 seconds before release.
>>490218670Wow it's too bad Miquella is just completely unable to make more of anti-rot equipment because of an anon's headcanon, really sucks for him
>>490216989Eh nah, The Three Finger's goal is to make ALL into ONE and it archives it by burning away the border between our consciousness and melt everyone's memories / personality/ mind together That is why people go mad, that is why the merchants could know if you murdered one of their kind, because they are all in a hivemind sort of. I guess the flame itself also deal some physical damage but it is not that high considering it can only melt stone walls a little bit >N-no... that's not possible. Not all of those people...their own...so those noises I heard were..>Those who gave me grapes howled without words. Saying they wished they were never born.>Burn the Erdtree to the ground, and incinerate all that divides and distinguishes.
>>490218608>Just accept the story is dogshit and Miquella's character got butchered, it's not hard and much easier than writing poorly supported fanfictionMy point never was that the story was good. My point since the beginning is that the story was always bad. That people made up headcanons and got lost in it, hoping beyond hope that there was at least one non godwyn demigod that wasn't a piece or shit, despite things like the bewitching branch showing he was always a shady piece of shit. Do I think thos exact story was planned? Fuck no but I do think miquella was always meant to be evil and that from the get go elden ring lore was ALWAYS shitty it just took this dlc to show how bad they handled the lore in the dlc and base game as if the heaps of infinitely better cut content from the base game alone didn't show that.