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>UPCOMING TOURNAMENTS
/ggg/: NONE
NA/EMEA weeklies/monthlies: https://x.com/nafgcto

>UPCOMING EVENTS
Arc World Tour 2024: https://www.arcsystemworks.jp/awt2024/
Major Balance Patch: Late October/Early November
Dizzy: October 2024
Venom: Early 2025
Unika: Spring 2025
Lucy; Summer 2025

>RESOURCES
Main wiki with frame Data and information about system mechanics: https://www.dustloop.com/w/GGST
Player Glicko-2 ratings: http://puddle.farm/top/all
Fighting game glossary: https://glossary.infil.net/
Deflect Shield OS tech: https://twitter.com/Precho6055/status/1778514309015826445

>Replay Uploaders
https://replaytheater.app/?game=strive

>/ggg/ APPROVED Strive mods
Potato Mod
https://gamebanana.com/mods/299494/
https://gamebanana.com/mods/296927/
Frame Data Display
https://github.com/Chitaso/StriveFrameViewer/releases (1.08/Pre Season 4)

>Season 4 Teaser Trailer
https://youtu.be/wKWSBwkCUe0?si=Yq0Rn8zARMmCz5ua

>Newest DLC: Slayer, May 30th
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fIrZvjyqf1Q
https://youtu.be/sbcXEGBiMns?si=ybB9xtmt4WLR8P68

>Latest Dev Backyard (17th Volume, June 28th)
https://www.guiltygear.com/ggst/en/news/post-2249/

>Latest Patch 1.38 (July 22nd)
https://www.dustloop.com/w/GGST/Version/1.39

>Current Balance Patch 1.38 (July 22nd)
https://www.dustloop.com/w/GGST/Version/1.38

>Xrd/+R/#R Stuff:
https://pastebin.com/tS6sjRUd
https://www.reddit.com/r/Guiltygear/wiki/learngg/

>Guilty Gear Soundtracks
https://mega.nz/folder/VRxC2JqT#E0Jfw9f_yEwIV6yFgXnDZw/

State platform and region when making lobbies for the thread and announce in the thread when you close them. You ft10 anyone you make the lobby. Keep training and keep on rockin'!

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>>491090296
themstament sexo
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10 recovery frames my fucking ass
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>>491091032
what a based take, did a youtuber give it to you
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breadly sin
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>>491091032
why the fuck is the tourist cat there
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>>491090752
what's the problem? you get to run guard crush mix on her and she's hard out of jealousy gauge which is the worst place for her to be

being able to actually punish forced JR deactivation would be fucked up considering how it's pretty easy to jail her into it
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>>491091190
Bridget for furries
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First for my wife A.B.A!
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>>491091463
you ain't Paracelsus nigga step off
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>>491090752
i never see abas use her wild assult
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>>491090752
>>491091463
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>>491091567
why did you change your avatar
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posting Petah the bloodedge to remind you that he should've been announced for strive instead of Lucy
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>>491092742
ok, but consider instead:
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>never liked tekken that much (despite being my childhood fightan)
>soul calibur is dead
>don't like sf character design
>granpoo i already played the first version, boring
>lmao kof is dead and ugly
>2xko is an obnoxious tag fighter and is 1 year before release at least
>blazblue looks really stupid so no hype for a sequel
guess i will still play strive for a long long time
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>>491093025
Ragna is cooler doe
and funny
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https://x.com/honstropy/status/1825913185922318608
New Elphelt kino
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>>491093589
is this supposed to be a recreation of a fotm anime moeslop intro?
also do people actually like this cringey shit?
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>>491093589
cringe
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>>491093589
This is cultural appropriation
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>>491094127
>fotm
that opening is from 2010 or something lol
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waiting for the umisho response to drop
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>>491094151
>>491094204
You guys hate fun
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>>491094932
sorry I don't watch moeshit
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where the funposters at
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>>491095247
>moeshit
missing on monogatari kino is terrible
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>>491093589
Cute
>>491094127
>>491094151
>>491094932
why so many underage itt, go do your homework
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>>491095195
>>491095841
I think anything using the Strive models for things that aren't Guilty Gear are cringe.
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>>491095841
bitch, I'm telling that guy that it's not a fotm anime and you call me underage?
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I'll never get over the skill disparity in Celestial. It's insane how much of a jump in the opponent's skill there often is from one match to the next.
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What is it about May, Elphelt and Bridget that attract all the tranny autists?
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>>491095970
Boo hoo fun hater
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Strive players are never funny
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>>491095841
I ain't watching moeslop even if it's from 1935 nigga
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>Post cute animation
>WAAAH TRANNY AUTIST WAAAH
Holy shit this community is retarded
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>posts cringe ass animation
>WAAH WHY ARE YOU CALLING ME OUT POR POSTING SHIT WAAH
clown behavior
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>>491093589
I'm gonna remake this with Delilah and Sin. At least then it would be accurate to the OP
>>491094127
>fotm
Renai Circulation is from 2009, that's older than you most likely.
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>>491096067
My bad dood
>>491096584
You are, sadly, a faggot tho
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>>491093589
>>491095195
>>491095450
>>491095841
>>491096376
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>>491096982
Bejitabro btw
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I love that Asuka's super combos into itself.
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>waah criiingee
This isn't the early 2010's anymore no one is gonna watch your cringe comp bro
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>>491097212
Silence RAT.
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first for abbers
>>491091463
YWNBAK
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>>491097664
why did you change your avatar
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>>491097861
wdym chuddie
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>>491097978
you changed your avatar on twitter
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>>491091463
yikes cringe
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>>491098074
I don't have a twitter. I don't use any social media at all because im darkcel asf
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Hello, bvlls and girls
This is your old pal stinky Muttly
This is a song about a dog
No, this is a song about being a cuck
That's right, it's the happy, happy, cuck, cuck, song
Happy, happy, cuck, cuck
Happy, happy, cuck, cuck
Happy, happy, cuck, cuck
Happy, happy, cuck, cück
Happy, happy, cuck, cuck
Happy, happy, cuck, cuck
Happy, happy, cuck, cuck, cuck
I don't think I'm happy enough
That's right, he'll teach me to be happy
He'll teach my Cheelai to suck a barbed dick
Now, bvlls and girls, let's try it again
Happy, happy, cuck, cuck
Happy, happy, cuck, cuck
Happy, happy, cuck, cuck
Happy, happy, cuck, cuck
Happy, happy, cück, cuck
Happy, happy, cuck, cuck
Happy, happy, cuck, cuck, cuck
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Sol Badguy lost.
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>>491098470
what the fuck is this
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>>491098772
It's called /dbs/posting sweetheart, it's a little before your time.
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>>491098470
erm what the deuce??
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Your falseflagging attempts will never work, RATkuRAT.
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>>491098470
Finally someone says it
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when is it my turn against johnny
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>>491100098
when he chooses to mist finer warp to you, you have one .5 second chance to hit him. that's it. btw you have to guess that he'll do that instead of letting mist finer come out
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>>491100535
>btw you have to guess that he'll do that instead of letting mist finer come out
no decent johnny player is putting themselves at -14 point blank
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>>491101076
SAYS WHO
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Did Gobou drop Asuka? I read that he thinks he has too may tough matchups and on the replay channels I only see him playing Goldlewis and ABA.
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there's really no better feeling than putting the fear of god into your opponent and locking them down with johnny.
FYI LEARN THE MATCH UP NIGGER
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Johnny is a zoner who loses to zoning
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>>491101479
There was literally nothing Anji could do here.
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>>491101479
man fuck this character why the fuck does turn up have that huge vertical hitbox when hit by horizontal mf?
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>>491101076
i mean that he'd either do mist finer warp or let mist finer come out, not both
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>>491100491
Kill yourself.
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>>491101479
would talk shit but that's an anji fraud so he deserved every second
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>>491101479
kek
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>>491101479
>delayed mist finer
let me guess, he was shitting out parry super during pressure? excellent lock down btw you love to see it
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>>491101926
it should be bigger so that it can more effectively catch jumpers
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>>491101926
I don't mind that but I feel like I often get hit by horizontal Mist Finer even when I'm in the air and there's no card, that annoys me.
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>>491100491
Live long and prosper.
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>>491101479
Character is only good due to strives shitty mobility.
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>>491093025
>make oppai loli
>call her embryo storage
what did Toshimichi Mori, and by extension Arc System Works® mean by this?
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>>491101479
this is layer 5 gameplay
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>>491101479
Anji players are the definition of insanity
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>>491104258
why is that chair so big?
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I fucking hate these long ranged blockstun champs. Whoops 6Ped a picosecond too early/late haha ggs
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>>491090296
Rev 2 lobby is up.
Name: gilly gear.
Password: no pass.
Lobby connection req: 2 or greater.
Hosted in: NA west coast.
>Why didn't you start the lobby earlier?
I was trying to make it up to the guys by hosting a mahvel lobby late on monday and tried to host it earlier today until 12 but as bad luck would have it they had to shut off the electricity for maintenance.
Also i reseated my ram as per an anon's advice, and my dumbass somehow forgot that i put TWO sticks of 16 gig ram.
There should be less crashes now.
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Ky's wife
Ky's sister inlaw
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>>491108882
Im going to fuck Ky's wife
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>>491093589
thinly veiled blacked elphelt post
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>>491109330
>blacked
bro, Nago being Araragi is a joke not porn.
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>>491111275
cope
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>>491103265
it means that shortstacks are the perfect embodiment of femininity and daisuke is a bitch for not including them in gg
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>>491111772
watch the show, mong.
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>>491112484
>instantly imagined a cheeky oppai loli msgk i-no
MY DIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIICK
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>>491108882
Cute Wife. When can we expect to see a gameplay trailer?
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>wifinigger
>plays elphelt
What a shock
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>>491101479
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>>491108734
GGs from the folks at AP Inc. If the lobby is still up later I'll come back.
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>>491108734
marvel lobby when
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>>491115815
On sunday.
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>>490945395
Bro?
Your Versusia?
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Losing to Slayer makes me feel unbelievably retarded. I know he's just going to do Master's Hammer and fuck me over again but it works everytime.
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>>491118081
Smart people dodge slayer
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>>491118081
Mash 2P to beat Master's Hammer.
Or take the hit because blocking it is what he wants you to do.
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>decide to play Strive for the first time in forever
>first game game decides my controller doesn't exist mid-round any more
very cool arcsys you fucking clods
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>>491118081
just backdash, sis
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>>491118081
I think you can late throw him, I tried it once and got counterhit into tod tho

I saw someone do it on reaction every time. I need to test it.
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>>491118579
I don't know what backdash is good for in this game, it beats throws but I feel every time I use it I get caught and eat a full combo like a retard, is it because sin's backdash is slow as shit?
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>>491118868
There is a window where he is on the ground but the hitbox hasn't appeared yet and you can throw him during that. It is not easy and you eat a pilebunker loop if you fuck it up but one guy did it to me every single time and basically made the move useless.
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>>491119036
Yeah exactly. I think I did it slightly too early but yeah I never tested it.

The risk/reward is terrifying but at the same time, it's a slow enough move to where if you practice against it, it should theoretically remove that option completely like you said. Slayer's risk reward in general is so fucked up.
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>>491119246
It loses to 2/5P pretty consistently, and jumping is even safer. Master's Hammer is incredibly slow.
The fucked up move is 2H.
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I want to hang whoever came up with the tower.
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I want to hang with whoever came up with the tower.
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Just don't play tower...
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>>491118868
You can but the timing is tough and you're pretty much fucked if you mess it up.
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>>491120519
parks suck ass
no one here hosts lobbies
and im not joining a discord for game to get groomed
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>>491119657
You VILL play 3 matches
You VILL get put in ze empty lobby
You VILL only be play against 31 players at once
You VILL get booted out ze lobby
You VILL boot up ze fake training mode match-making
You VILL match against shitters and pros
You VILL get a 5/5 streak
You VILL walk up to the bugged cabinet because the CEO is a nostialgia fag
and you VILL like it
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they should have made the tower go down like diablo
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i keep trying to dp rc
not carried btw
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>>491120761
>and im not joining a discord for game to get groomed
it's worse than that, a lot of them demand phone number now
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>>491121789
I have never seen this
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>>491119657
>fail my Celestial challenge
>nobody matches with me on floor 10 because lol 1500 character level
>switch to a sub character
>now people think I'm smurfing and decline the rematch after 1 game
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>>491121789
Some of the Porncords I've seen want you to show them ID.
Doesn't surprise me.
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>>491121789
fucking lol the nerve of these faggots man
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Dizzy's c.S better barely leave the fucking ground, I'm sick of these c.S antiairs.
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I got my ass handed to me today.
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>>491122578
Something kinda like this?
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>hmm this player is patient. I should be more greedy during pressure and bait their whiff punishes
>keep flowcharting
>lose
yep cant wait to do the same shit tomorrow
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>>491122161
And now people are plugging on me
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comunicandose con el servidor....
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https://x.com/ItsLurry/status/1825743639693197387
Wait, the drama isn't fucking over?
lmao
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How are they gonna simplify Dizzy and Venom in Strive?
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>>491123727
holy kino
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>>491123885
Venom is getting a new gimmick to replace his half his kit. Did you not watch the interview?
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>>491123727
>umisho gets cancelled
please god yes
get rid of all these disgusting abominations, i can't stand to look at them anymore
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>>491122161
this is in no way an issue with the tower lobby system, just levels which are absolutely retarded as a concept
no contribution apart from dodging purposes and the monthly auras, and even that is literally 0% skill based as you get 10k xp for winning against leffen and sometimes 250k for beating a floor 10 challenger so i have no motivation to grind that anyway
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>>491108734
>Got logged out of steam.
GAYBEN YOU FAT JEW STOP CONDUCTIING SERVER MATENECE ON FUCKING TUESDAY YOU FAT CUNT.
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>>491123727
are all the people this is about trannies?
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>>491126028
I think Bunny is a biohole
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>>491126016
Seems like steam is down for now.
Will put the lobby back up as soon as possible.
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>>491126028
>>491126162
bunny is a female they/them
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>>491123727
this dude is a gigachad, twitter drama sucks and will never result in the status quo actually changing
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Jealous Rage ABA is no fun allowed in neutral.
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>>491126754
why the fuck would a selfrespecting person willingly be involved with these people?
oh wait
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I don't care that umisho is an ugly boy or an ugly girl or even an ugly "abuser" (I'm sure the abuse was aggressive cuddling or something)
I care that umisho is ugly, and that they won with HC. I do not stand for uggos or HC players.
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>>491127718
Based on what little information is public it sounds like Umisho is an actual abuser who manipulates people and then projects all those crimes onto them when the relationship falls apart to destroy their reputation.
But you are also right that he's ugly and plays HC.
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>>491126907
nice nac pfp
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There is nothing worse than losing to Johnny and Baiken players that can not even do a TK input
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>>491127718
but umisho is hot
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>>491128130
hotashi please you aren't fooling anyone
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remember the times before strive? yeah... those were good..
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>>491128214
Hotashi is probably PRESSED after 2xko alpha came out and he didn't get catapulted to FGC stardom tbqh
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>>491128418
I was literally born the day strive came out so no I don't remember
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>>491128424
I genuinely don't understand what he's thinking with 2xko, such a weird position to have about a game
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>>491127974
oh crap i accidentally face revealed myself here, yep i look like that
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>>491128596
Is he shitting on it or something? I don't keep up with 2XKO or Hotashi.
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>>491127972
That's surprisingly adept-level social manipulation and engineering, to their credit. Very manly.
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>BSU
>5D
>RC it out of habit
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>>491128814
He posted a suicide note saying that he thinks 2xko will be trash but is desperately hoping/coping that it isn't so that he can ride the hype train of a new game and Collab with other FGC content creators and be the next Dood or sajam
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>>491128880
>Very manly.
I'm not so sure.
It reminds me of Zoey Quinn's BPD behavior and BPD is a very woman-coded personality disorder.

>>491129086
He just doesn't have the charisma to be the next dood or sajam.
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>>491128814
no, he just treats as if it's going to be the single greatest, most important fighting game ever and basically it's his reason of living somehow
https://x.com/hotashis/status/1819126680516284870
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>>491129667
homie i can't read this shit
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>>491129438
He's right that it's going to be a big deal for the FGC but I really don't think he has the charisma to build the career he wants.
He also seems like he can't handle criticism well so if he does get big he's going to make a fool of himself replying to troll comments and become a joke.
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counterpoke my ass bruv
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>>491123727
I want Umisho and his tranny orbiters out. Just fucking exile them. This is on ArcSys for releasing HC in that state and not nerfing Sol in any significant capacity.
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when the combo wallbreaks:
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>>491129756
>it's going to be a big deal for the FGC
sure, but it's literally jut BBTag Dos: Revengeance so I can't be too hype for it
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>>491091417
>being able to actually punish forced JR deactivation would be fucked up considering how it's pretty easy to jail her into it
I do not care. Fuck the throw invul. Fuck the BRC punish.
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>>491129086
Is he still on about collabing with Maxishillian? He basically blacklisted himself from any real FGC collabs when he IK'd Max back in Rev 2. Not so funny now huh
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>>491129667
i see... this has changed my view of the situation
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>>491108734
Okay, gabe unfucked the servers.
Lobby's back up.
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>>491129993
It’s not BBTAG. Stop larping
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>>491130507
it's BBtag
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>>491129086
hmmm maybe I should do that...
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How do we think Lucy is going to play?
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>>491130864
Eltnum function
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>>491130864
phonon from uni with the ability to lock you out of an attack button with a hack super
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>start reacting to slayer teleport cS oki and blocking the right side
>just teleports again and lands cS
not like i wanted to block anyway
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>>491131132
>start reacting to slayer teleport cS oki
No way anyone can react to the dash cancel
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Trans women can't be abusers. Abuse is power + privledge
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>>491131132
This loses to fuzzy grab.
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>>491129086
hope that POS genuinely ends it
he's such an unlikable stain on humanity. laughable he thinks he'll ever break into mainstream popularity in the FGC. no one fucking likes him besides his anime autist forever alone weirdos.
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>>491130864
Jam function
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>>491131884
I think he's alright when he's in a good mood.
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>>491131884
i STILL hate him for when he won the online evo against someone with their tag as "trans rights," got praise for it, and then kissed tranny ass for the next 6 months to apologize like the parasite he is
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>>491132396
better than not having a jam function at all I guess
No gio doesn't count
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>>491132687
he didn't have much of a choice considering he's roommates with the leader of the tranny cartel and would have been skinned alive if he didn't
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>>491130864
SF Poison but all her specials are the hacking minigames from Bioshock
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>>491133024
the only thing i hate more than the "fgc" status quo is someone who decides to make following it their entire personality when they have a chance not to. and he wonders why didn't get popular
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>>491133375
he'll never be popular because he's an unlikeable loser with a massive ego and mediocre skills
i can't watch this dude for 3 minutes on stream without wanting to strangle him
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>>491133489
there was a cool thing going on with the "dark souls boss" thing and being a former 4chan guy though
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>>491129667
THE CHAMPIONS
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Sneed playing Remi now
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>>491134678
On stream?
Or are you just stalking him in the tower?
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>>491135065
Stream
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>"minor" balance patch
>buffs a character into top tier
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>>491134678
I'm so godlike. I ain't watching his stream, but I can tell he's prolly angry
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>>491136629
He wasn't mad at all.
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>>491136817
I guess I misjudged him. I hope he has a nice day then. A Totally Tubular Day
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>>491136817
What do you mean? I was watching and he was coping so hard by saying Sin is broken
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>>491136629
>>491137069
>>491137440
"This is a rough matchup for Sin"
"What was that, a kara? That went further than I expected"
(responding to chat about Sin being strong even after being nerfed) "He still does a ton of damage"
"You can still lose as Axl here if you get sloppy.. like that"
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>>491137906
I would check the vod, but it's not enabled. I hate Sinniggers but I do remember that he was coping after the first set saying shit like Sin's speed and buttons are broken
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>>491134678
some of the corny ass setups this nigga is getting away with is crazy to me
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>>491138379
I don't know why you're so eager to build some drama out of this; the dude played his sets the same as all the others: responding to his chat and talking about the game. He wasn't agitated and didn't go all "ugh character broken" or "ugh that move is broken" at all like you're suggesting. The only thing he actually complained about was post-buff Johnny and resource characters in general starting with too much of their resource; specifically ABA and Jack-O (and maybe HC).
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>>491139421
Home Remi sees this bro
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>>491139421
lmao, so he's a Johnny upplayer then? What a faggot
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don't be mean to remi he's one of the few strive streamers who doesn't act like a total bitch
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>>491139574
>Home Remi sees this bro
Preserving your fatal spelling mistake. Also I'm too tired to deal with bullshit; I just thought it was cool to see Sneed playing someone moderately notable live.

>>491139646
>Johnny upplayer
Literally impossible post patch.
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>>491140061
Hope Sneed sees this bro
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>>491140645
I will personally relay this information to sneed
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>>491140645
>Hope Sneed sees this bro
I'm too shit to ever see him near full power in a lobby, so I must gaze upon the contest of others to witness the true pinnacle of mankind.
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>>491141232
The true pinnacle has been locked away since Sin came out desu
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>>491140061
It's always cool to fight people on stream, especially since many good players dodge me in tower. I didn't know it was streamed until I finished the set and saw you post it and usually when I play a decent player they try to dunk on me to clip me
>>491141232
I still lurk all the time in case someone wants advice on Sin
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>>491141593
>I still lurk all the time in case someone wants advice on Sin
funny how you are constantly giving advice meanwhile umiGOAT won't even run sets with weaker players, but somehow you're the one who is making the community less inviting
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>>491141941
but bro... I literally like anime girls(not hags)... I'm so fucking evil
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>>491141593
You should kill yourself as soon as possible before your urges consume you and you rape a child.
If you have any humanity at all you'll do that asap.
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>>491144563
hotashi... that's not very nice...
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>>491144563
I already have a trip booked to a country that has legalized euthanasia to take care of me. I don't deserve to live as a freak in this world with so many valid trans and gay folx
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>>491108734
the company director sends her regards
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>>491144915
Toronto, Vancouver, or Calgary?
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does xrd have proximity blocking
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>>491096187
That's what happens when you dump practically every slightly above average player into the same lobby. Seeing that study Activision did where turning off SBMM lowered player retention across the board made me wish again I could peer into a world where FGs had the same standards as other genres for the past two decades and see how popular they could be now just by having actual decent online without changing anything else.
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>>491145510
Yes, "Guilty Gear Xrd" does feature proximity blocking. In this game, proximity blocking occurs when a character automatically enters a blocking stance if they are within a certain range of an opponent's attack, even if the player hasn't input a block command. This mechanic can influence spacing and defensive strategies in the game.
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>>491108734
Sorry guys someone stepped on the ethernet cable.
Lobby's back up.
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>>491145746
>ChatGPT makes a confident statement of fact
>it's wrong
classic
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>>491145727
The ~12 year period where rollback existed but every dev simply chose not to use it did immeasurable damage to the growth of the FGC.
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>>491091463
You aren't me (actually Paracelsus).
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ouyasunni, ghg
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What was Guilty Gear known for before being the series gay people play?
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>>491149514
The series people said they play but didn't actually play
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>>491144563
Don't worry sis, I will kill sneed myself before he sexually assaults a fictional child
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>>491150524
You can kill a man but not an idea
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>>491149514
Mostly what >>491149579 said but also the heavy metal series
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>>491149514
the only faggotry there was was people sometimes arguing if Venom is gay or not
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>>491149514
the series weird anime fags play so not that different, although blazblue took the title and hasn't given it back
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>>491149514
Le Bridget makes everyone gay meme. Also shitting dick nipples.
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>>491152757
holy shit that was dizzy wasn't it
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>>491108734
I just realized I had my vpn on that entire time. I'm sorry for the lag Sin, Faust, and Sol. GGs anyway though
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>>491149514
The series with Dizzy and Bridget in it.
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>>491152938
Yes. One of the more famous shock images back in the mid-2000s. It got posted on /b/ ALOT. Shame the meme got lost to time.
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>>491149514
I only knew it from Leon Massey's videos worshipping xrd, now that I actually play it I know xrd is the worst gg
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>>491153509
Leon Massey is a stupid nigger retard but Xrd is good
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>>491153367
man I wanted to post the image but it's hashbanned AND I'm rangebanned from posting images lmao
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>but Xrd is good
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>>491154358
I'm a strive player who didn't play XRD because I played other games at the time. Once rollback came out I gave it a try and played for about a week or so. Game is so much better than strive it's not even funny.
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Does Japan consider Strive a 'combo game' like the do other anime fighters?
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>>491154907
Oh for sure dude
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>>491155038
Do you actually think Strive is a better game? Have you ever played or even watched xrd? Honest questions.
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>>491154907
The only upsides xrd has are gatlings and jam, otherwise eeeehhh I find strive more fun
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>>491155201
I've had more fun in Strive than I had in Xrd, yeah. I've both played and watched Xrd and I'm not sure why you'd even ask the latter
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>>491155372
Jam is not an upside
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>>491155803
NTA but can you go into more detail about what you like and dislike about each game?
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>>491155828
being fast and having good damage without having to rely on mixups seems like an upside to me, the day they make chipp/millia feel fun to play I'll stop asking arcsys to add jam to strive
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>>491157056
millia is the funnest character in strive. I don't think they could make her funner without breaking the game.
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>>491108882
>red eyes
>blue hair streak
hmmm
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just like sephirorth
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>>491158225
no tail however
>>491158560
my mother's name was jenova
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>>491158225
She is most likely Dizzy's sister or maybe her half-sister
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>>491158225
This is the second time I've seen someone mention this plot point but it seems like people are ignoring what led to Crow having Dizzy clones in the first place which is clearly entirely non-canon as it involves A.B.A working for Crow to capture Dizzy (in exchange for a body for Paracelsus and we know neither of A.B.A's endings are canon) which goes against what happens in AC+ stories we know are canon like Dizzy going to live with Ky in her ending 1.

Overall AC+'s stories are pretty bullshit and their canonicity is in question a lot, so maybe it could get adapted/retconned/changed for Crow to still get some Dizzy DNA and make a clone but it seems unlikely and needlessly convoluted.
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>>491159313
>half sister
>dizzy is daughter of sol and justice
>unika is daughter of asuka and justice
>>491159514
could be a unified canon where all endings are canon.
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>>491159879
>could be a unified canon where all endings are canon.
I'd get more uninterested in the story than I already am. This would be so shitty. Either this or more time travel or more multiverse shit would make me just entirely stop caring.
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>>491159879
>>unika is daughter of asuka and justice
This would be suitably dramatic, honestly.
I don't think Asuka would fuck her, though. If Unika is his daughter, he probably grew her in a test tube.

>could be a unified canon where all endings are canon
I'm pretty sure Daisuke didn't write most of the endings as iirc he didn't work on the later versions of XX.
It's why, for example, he doesn't even remember that one plot point about Raven being Axl from the future or whatever when he was asked about it; he ignored everything written without his involvement.
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>>491157535
actually it belongs to jaSlayer
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people say unika might be a holy order sol function online
how does he work and could they port him to strive like aba or is he more like elphelt
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>>491160495
push a button, do a charge cancel for plus frames, maybe you just charge.
once you charge enough you have enhanced specials of varying level.
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>>491160495
He's the king of gorillas.
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>>491160605
>>491160618
sounds strive-able
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>>491160645
He'll probably get the Slayer/ABA treatment where they trim the fat but keep the core playstyle intact and we get a turbogorilla.
Of course, even those two had some major changes.
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>>491146192
It's frustrating when everyone acts like it's an issue with the games themselves and they're just inherently unpopular so you have to dumb them down and take out motion inputs when they never even gave the games a chance to succeed outside of arcades before that. Do they think something like CS2 would have even a tenth of the playerbase it does if it was the first game in the series and one of the first in the genre to not use delay-based?
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Those moves that make you wall bounce at the edge of the screen are pretty fun. they should bring it back.
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>>491161238
When you really think about it, the success of SF2 (an obtuse, difficult, and unforgiving game with unreasonably tight execution by modern standards) proves the games don't need to be simple, they just need to be accessible and social.
I think SF6's Battle Hub is genius, and I would love Strive's tower system if only it wasn't broken.
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RTL should have a bigger vertical hitbox it's too easy to jump over
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>>491162692
this but super mappa hunch
fuck your jump ins
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What are the usual lobby hours?
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>>491163208
whenever you decide to make one
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>>491163208
Sorry, anon, they usually start after you go to sleep.
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>>491163208
6 or 7 central until like 9 i would say
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>>491163208
>>491163413
>>491163438
>>491163548
>>491163984
Would you be down for king of the hill lobby in 10 minutes or so?
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>>491164038
sure why not
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>>491163984
My excuse is that my computer is prone to blue screens and I don't want the lobby crashing while there are 4 different sets ongoing.
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>>491164038
you can't be posting this literally as i crawl into bed
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>>491164448
That's a yes, right?
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>>491164038
it's late.
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i'm tweaking on adderall right now let's fucking go
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>>491164940
Huh? Is there a major happening rn?
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WHERE'S THE FUCKING LOBBY
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>>491165454
765232
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>>491166207
TOOK TOO LONG NIGGER I SLEEP
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>>491166207
ggs bro
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>>491166207
lobby closed, ggs
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>>491108734
Lobby is closed.
Thanks to all that came.
Sleep well, my ni/ggg/as.
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i have to say, doing a 66 input on the dual sense's shitty d pad feels awful to do. it's like a 40% fail rate. i wish dash macros were more common back then.
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>>491170167
The dualsense dpad is just shit anon
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You never know when a long set in the park is about to begin, so make sure you're prepared to sit in front of the monitor for a long time if necessary. Don't forget to blink.
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>>491173131
The only problem I have with the park is that when I go there I usually want to practice a specific matchup and I rarely find someone playing that character, and if I do find someone, half the time they're just learning the character.
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>>491173131
Hos long is considered to be a long set?
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>>491173381
for me personally 10 games minimum, for others it could be as little as 5 or as many as 20. it's subjective
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>>491173319
Games should have search filters for their online modes. Or at least let you see what character everyone is playing on a long list so it's easy to get matches with them.
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>>491174694
>Or at least let you see what character everyone is playing on a long list so it's easy to get matches with them.
You can do this in the park, but the problem is people are usually in a match already.
I'm going to start asking for sets here, probably. How many of you guys hover around floor 10 in skill?
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How do I get better at microdashing 5K/2K in my Ky combos? How do I know when to apply microdash 5K/2K on the fly?
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>>491177430
>How do I get better at microdashing 5K/2K in my Ky combos?
By practicing microdashing
>How do I know when to apply microdash 5K/2K on the fly?
when you're free to dash
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>>491175142
The denizens of this thread are celestialGAWDs. You should ask for games here regardless because you need to feel the heat as a newer player.
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me waiting for the cardless Johnny to give me my turn back (he doesnt)
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this guy is respecting minus on block mfc lmfao
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DPs should be air unblockable or guard crush on air block seeing as how Arcsys insists on gutting their use as reversals
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>>491178826
Only for the characters than dont have two dps
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I am always amazed how garbage Last Horizon scales when the guts of beefy characters kick in
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>>491177703
>celestialGAWDs
I have transcended the basic level of Celestial and mastered the art of alternative play. Once the EX Celestial, now archangel. Do not group me with those beneath my grace.
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Anyone up for a platonic ft30 I'm feeling it tonight
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>>491090296
I see Sin, Ram, and Elphelt in the background but who is that third character supposed to be?
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who's the best fundamentals character in +R?
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>>491181943
Sol and Ky. Shotos are always peak fundies.
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>fundamentals character
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>>491123727
I remember umisho loving liking porn on twitter, what would happen if someone dig those likes up and found some loli stuff? would those charges stick or he'd get a pass unlike Chuck
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>>491126907
I respect this guy for coming out swinging like that but saying Umisho is ''a tad less bad than leffen'' is disingenious as fuck, then again I guess he still had to cushion his words for the emotionally stunted socially awkward chasers that play this game
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>>491118868
Much safer to jump or bdash masters hammer on reaction imo, your gonna fuck up the timing on throw once and hate yourself cause you gotta burst or get TOD
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>>491182965
Both of those result in scrambles/counterplay. A throw completely cucks slayer and puts you on offense.

I know it's risky but like I said I saw someone do it EVERY single time on reaction. It's doable for sure, just need to get the timing down.
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The One EDT actually smells really good I'm ready to hit the local Strive scene
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Is it possible to wallbreak midscreen with BSU frc pilebunker kara pilebunker?
my execution is ass
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Fundamentals are a key skill in fighting games, but no one talks about how to improve in them, so lets do that :)
00:00 Intro
00:54 REACTIONS - 6
03:01 RANDOMNESS - 6
05:11 COMPOSURE - 9
06:26 EXECUTION - 7
07:58 GAME KNOWLEDGE - 2
09:27 INNOVATION - 8
10:47 UNIQUENESS - 9
12:49 ADAPTATION - 6
13:44 CLUTCH - 9
14:55 GRIT - 8
22:38 The 11th Fundamental VERSATILITY - 2
72/11 = 6.55
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>>491182073
Should I pick up HOS or Sol? I play Ky in GGST and I tried out +R Ky and he plays a bit differently than I expected
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>>491181943
The best characters are Zappa, Testament, and Baiken.

Every character has fundamentals, by definition. If a game mechanic is ignored by some characters then you can't call it "fundamental" ;^)
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>>491186124
Regular Sol's always a good time
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>>491186124
HOS is more like Leo or something in that he's a rushdown ape, not a real shoto but unlike leo he's sick as fuck, probably one of the sickest fighting game characters ever made

try sol
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If you sound like Remi run the VC set
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>>491191729
>bidet
nasty
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>>491191807
Average british bounty hunter
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You ready to get pounded?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GrmJH51I974
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>>491184128
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https://rule34.xxx/index.php?page=post&s=view&id=10903941
https://rule34.xxx/index.php?page=post&s=view&id=10903945
yes it's ai. Still incredibly on model, more than the shit you usually see
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If I pick up potemkin in 2024 are there still people to play with and have relatively even matches as a semi-newcomer?
I've played SF/Tekken and was celest for first 3 months of the game but haven't played since, I was playing ky and got bored of mirrors and didn't really like him as a char.
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>>491184128
i like that fort minor song
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>>491200626
she even has the fangs. Impressive. Too bad is censored
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>>491200626
Why the hell would you link AI nigger dicks?
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>>491200913
There are still plenty of players on floor 8/910 in NA and EU.
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some people really think you should never represent risky options because you take a lot of damage if you're wrong even if being right puts you in a good position to run your offense and win the round (even if they're straight up not doing anything to make you think that they'll bait it.)

>NO I CAN'T MASH AGAINST THIS LOOPING PRESSURE I COULD DIE
meanwhile you're having your offense stuffed every wakeup by DPs that the other guy is just throwing out even though he's risking an optimal punish by doing that
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>>491200913
Strive is the fighting game of choice for brainless casuals, there will always be pretty bad players to play against until a new game that dumps it into the territory of 100 concurrent players comes out
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>>491181167
that's ky
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>>491205771
One of my problems is that I mash too much. Elphelt rapes me because of it.
But I also shut down a lot of fake shit without needing to even react to it.
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>>491205771
Reads like an insecure slayer post
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>>491205951
>t..the strive killer will surely come this time, any seconds know
*crickets noise*
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>>491205771
Reads like a Slayer BVLL
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>>491206846
a new guilty gear will literally instantly kill the game no matter what it is, just like SFV
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>>491206905
guess we will be STRIVING for another five years then
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>>491207078
IDK, it's been a few years, guilty gear is now considered an actually competitive brand and this is feeling like it could be the last complete pass

i wouldn't be surprised if we had a new game announced in three years
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>>491207363
>this is feeling like it could be the last complete pass
Why do people keep saying this
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>corner
>50% bar
>error
go ahead, mash. surely there is a gap
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what socd do you use? I like last input so even if keyboards don't have specific socds i use a software to force it instead of l+r=neutral.
Don't give a shit about capcom rules. I don't play sf
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>>491208220
i like last input (2nd priority) wins. makes most sense to me logically. why wouldn't you want the last thing you pressed to take priority
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>>491208220
just plug your controller and play nigga
caring about that nerd shit will only make you play worse
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>>491208758
My nigga
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>>491208334
something about making charge characters too easy to play when you can just hold back forever and tap forward to do dolphins over and over.
Guess Guile was too spammy with it
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>>491209047
nta but I've used both neutral SOCD and Last Input Win and NEVER had trouble doing dolphin over and over again.
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>>491207651
>Why do people keep saying S5 is the last season
Because not everyone is a coping fag.
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>>491209771
*S4
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>>491207651
>there aren't many returning pass-seller characters left, maybe Jam
>game itself feels like it's losing steam, response to S3 changes was "tune down or remove everything you added," lot of content creators have moved on to newer games, mostly streets
>Had interest in drawing in new players with team of 3 (this will draw in literally nobody)
>competitive scene feels increasingly sad
series needs a shot in the arm that only a new title could provide IMO
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Last input. I use it on sf6 too because I dont go to tournaments. Definitely the best for any charge character. Also makes inputs feel better in general like super inputs.
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What are the oki options and counters in this game?
Like in sf your options when waking up are
delay tech (beats meaty and throw risky due to shimmy)
invincible reversal (beats throw/meaty, risky due to shimmy)
jump (vs grappler ig but loses to meaty, and shimmy in sf)

In strive you can wakeup backdash? what beats this and is it a good option? what are the downsides? Someone else told me delay tech isn't really a thing in strive due to a shorter window and 5f wakeup throw invuln while sf has 0.
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>>491214504
strike throw and uhh.... strike throw...
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>>491209771
Doomers have been coping that every season is the last since launch

>>491210561
Besides Jam, people are still asking for Robo-Ky and Zappa. Kum could easily be adapted into more overt waifu bait by redesigning her robot. Gabriel would sell like hotcakes.
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>>491214504
fuzzy jump is probably the closest equivalent to delay tech because jump beats throw HARD in this game. fuzzy jump is an option select that will jump throws and block strikes, generally beaten by a slightly delayed low on offense.
trying to jump out on wakeup will still get you hit by a meaty strike
Faultless Defense is a little like Parry in that it pushes out strike blockstrings but stops you from teching or jumping (to beat throw) until you do it
backdash can beat throw or normals that aren't active or fast enough to beat their invincibility giving you a full punish
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>>491214504
Fuzzy tech is a thing but it's less important than SF because most characters are running a dirtier mixup than what you see in SF. Fuzzy jump is MUCH stronger.
You can fuzzy high/low and left/right but the details are incredibly matchup specific.
Most (but not all) command grabs are grab invuln and can be used as a hard call out against grabs if you're ballsy.
You can also wake up gold burst.
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My K mappa strat is losing to K finer. It’s over…
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>>491218375
Literal skill issue. Johnny is one of Slayer's best MU's.
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>>491215863
He doesn't know any magic. It's all smoke and mirrors, kid
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>>491218570
how though
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>>491214504
Backdash in Strive has 4-6 frames of invuln depending on character so wakeup backdash will cause meaties with less active frames than that to whiff
They're also completely airborne so they'll beat throw, even delayed ones
Delay teching is kind of a thing but it's much less important because the way gatlings work a lot of characters will naturally blow up mashed throws in blockstrings
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>>491218570
I can see how he wins roundstart RPS but neutral just feels clunky if he has card out
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>>491218570
I think he's one of Slayer's worst. Mist Finer beats grounded linear approaches for free and Slayer can't even dash block.
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If I buy +R, can I find games in SEA? It looks interesting
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>>491108734
Wakey wakey wakey wakey wakey wakey.
Lobby's up.
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>>491215863
>Why doesn't Johnny use more tequila attacks
fixed
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>>491222697
I would guess no. Maybe there is a discord but I doubt you'll find randos.
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Which e-celeb told tower players to play floor is lava against Slayer. It’s funny as fuck
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>>491222697
I wouldn't be worried, there's people playing all the time like RIGHT NOW, also +r is like 5 dollars just buy that shit
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>>491205771
>t. mashing retard
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>>491222738
Oh no... oh God. I just realized I haven't slept.
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>>491224737
IS THAT!?
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EU Rev 2 lobby, up for at least half an hour even if no one joins

steam://joinlobby/520440/109775241048497574/76561198036918587
li7u
I could be persuaded to host +R as well
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https://x.com/HomeDepotemkin/status/1825938514380468244
Lmao
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>>491224737
How many of those people are SEA monkeys though?
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>>491149514
>What was Guilty Gear known for before being the series gay people play?
The series gay people played (wanting to fuck Bridget (male))
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>>491228694
Nu-Bridget is THE worst thing that ever happened to this community. The number of secondaries and near-secondaries we have now is more like Touhou or Homestuck.
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>>491228694
There is nothing funny about mentally ill men ruining their lives :(
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>>491228962
idk, I think +r doesn't tell you(?), the only thing that matters is ping and you can sort by that
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>>491229565
But anon wants to know how many people he'll be able to play with before he buys the game.
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>>491227745
Closed
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>>491229160
>Touhou
Its fucking ded bro. It doesnt even have secondaries now
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>>491231993
Homestuck is deader.
They're still illustrative examples.
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There are young people getting INTO touhou, that is fucking wild.
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Imagine playing Baiken
lame midget cant even covert off her far slash
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>>491232784
why is it wild
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why can like almost half the cast crouch under rams 5D while right next to her
does katano know what an overhead is supposed to do?
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>>491229160
>The number of secondaries and near-secondaries
how does this affect me personally
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>>491234114
Makes online discussions more annoying and causes people to assume you're gay when they hear you play Guilty Gear.
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>>491234114
it doesnt, it just gives arcsys more money so they can make more videogames and now an anime
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>>491218570
Johnny is one of the only characters Slayer consistently loses to according to ratingupdate stats.
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>burst johnny combo
>try to set up fireba-
>fullscreen joker trick
why is johnny not only great at zoning, but have a massive fuck you super that beats any zoning attempts? could this character be anymore retardproof? i legitimately don't think there's a more obnoxious character in this faggot game
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>>491234282
how does this affect me if i dont think about what other people assume and i dont get annoyed by online discussion
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>>491234509
Literally untrue
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>>491234569
Then it's probably a good thing for you because of >>491234339
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Is Elphelt doomed to be low tier forever?
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>>491234558
why did you not goldburst when he was setting up a card?
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>>491234997
Agree to disagree.
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>>491234997
3/4 of the s3 dlcs are broken as fuck, woah
>>491235696
can't you read?
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>>491235025
everyday i sacrifice a baby goat to keep her there
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>>491234997
HC is a bad character according to this list.
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>>491235869
I can read, but I can also read between the lines. You'll understand when you're a little older.
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>>491234997
How do Johnny players even lose against Goldlewis
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>>491235025
She's not low tier enough.
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>>491236028
Goldlewis has been top 1 since release.
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>>491233817
Even for me, a bonafide oldfag, that shit always seemed like elderweeb trash.
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>>491234968
Will I ever get the respect I deserve
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>>491235948
>bringing up irrelevant point
I accept your concession
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>>491234997
Reminder that if you use this chart to say Slayer is broken then you also have to say HC is bottom 1.
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>>491236185
*bottom 1
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#trustthescience
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>>491236191
2hu is the ultimate poser magnet, even more than old Guilty Gear. I don't even consider myself a Touhou fan but I can still say with complete and supreme confidence that I have played more Touhou than 99% of Touhou fans just by virtue of having 1ccd one game in the series. It's easy for people to get into and consider themselves fans because all that means for most is seeing a fumo and thinking it's cute.
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>>491236191
Touhou is the original secondary magnet.
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>>491236626
uh statsissies why the frick is the hecking Evolution 2024 champ in the bottom 3
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>>491236705
Then why do they go on and on about the music and history then, the rich and full timeline of touhou landfill-packing material
Not to me, mind you, Im not listening to that rant. But in corners at locals they can be overheard.
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>>491236626
>proportional chart proves Goldlewis is top 1 and Ky is Y-tier

>>491236903
In all seriousness, the game is fairly well balanced and the gap between top 1 and bottom 1 is relatively small. Tower players just refuse to lab matchups.
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>>491237165
That's just like people going on about GG lore when they have no idea how to play the games.
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Goldlewis is bottom in my house, because I'm topping him
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The new elo site owner should have reset the stats since we got system mechanic changes.
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>>491237484
I don't think they're getting reset until October.
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>>491236626
my doctor showed me this chart when he gave me the vax
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>>491237294
GG lore is worth discussing just due to its sheer insanity. Daisuke's vision is genuinely entertaining to everyone
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>>491236705
Is that a fucking dustloop
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>>491236705
TEYAH TEYAH AGP REVOLVER
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>>491236028
>johnny shits out giant hurtboxes
>fraudlewis shits out giant disjoints that hkd
what's hard to understand about this
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Goldlewis loses to HC but wins every other MU.
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>>491236705
i just listen to the soundtracks and randomly watch gameplay of the weather fighter
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>>491238420
>whiffing those buttons
sounds like a skill issue on their part ngl
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>>491236903
Nitro is *that* good.
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>>491236903
All the real GAWDlike players (UMISHO, Tempest, Leffen) got knocked out early by bad luck so a scrub managed to win.
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>>491236903
Nitro works extra hard and isnt a bitch. More people would be talking about how great that EVO run was if a certain protected group didnt decide to air out their gay dirty laundry out in the open a couple of days later
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It is unironically easier to interact with Goldlewis pressure than Deal Johnny
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Does Ky even have combos? I'm getting corner carried by Johnny, Sin. and I-No and I can't do anything like that back
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>>491236626
No way Anji is that high
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>>491242327
Ky has combos from anywhere on the screen. like fullscreen combos
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>>491242327
he has j.d loops
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>>491242327
Ky is in Strive?
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>>491242498
Anji is a high-damage gambler character with annoying mix no one wants to lab against. In other words, he's just like Slayer
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>>491242327
use your 236D brotherman
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>>491237180
the proportional stats are kinda meaningless because it goes from top 20 on some chars to top 400 on others
and some chars top 400ish are like floor 7
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>>491242327
Your RWA? Your counterhit H DP?
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>wakeup BRC
I know you wanted yrc you little bitch. You have to be in blockstun.
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>>491244179
I do this a lot but I always just get hit out of the startup.
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>>491244179
im trying to backdash brc punish ok
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>>491244179
I brc when people air dash at me.
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>>491122868
I handed you your ass today
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>>491244179
I love pressing YRC and then seeing my opponent mash counter YRC only to get BRC I then proceed to fuck up the punish and get hit by a 4 framer
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>>491245105
I made that post yesterday and didn't play today thoughever
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>search "ggg" to find /ggg/
>Keep on clicking on /mggg_ because the mouse girl OP looks like loli Dizzy from afar
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>>491249102
Sneed...
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>>491131057
gonna lock happy chaos out of the H button
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>>491250328
Wouldn't jumping and running both have gotten him out of this due to the lag on the reticle?
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>>491092742
I’m being completely serious I want Peter Griffin in since we can apparently get random anime characters, Peter should be fine too.
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>>491250328
mashing after 6S is most geneful shit that LK has done
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>>491250328
i beginning to think the problem isn't Baiken...
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>>491250328
must be nice to never have to play neutral
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>>491250328
buck status: broken
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>>491251851
I'm going to respectfully tell you to lower Sin to at least the second to bottom tier or even possibly the bottom tier
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>>491251851
The shots were not gapless. LK is just a pussy. He could have 6Ped 6S. Also you might be the dumbest fucking nigger if you think Elphelt has better neutral than Ky or Gio
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you fellas were right, i switched to last input socd and the movement feels so much smoother and responsive. Capcucks are fucking retarded lmao
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>>491241264
if multiple top level players are getting kicked out by bad luck then the game is garbage anyway
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>>491252873
that's exactly what happened with slime fighter LUHMEOOOOOOOOOOOWOWOWOWOWOWOWOWOWOWWWWAOUUUUUUUUUUUUH AHAHAHAHAH
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>>491241264
pretty sure nitro beat tempest. that's not bad luck that's the best man won
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>>491252870
it's better but literally only doable on leverless so it's an entirely unfair advantage, not to mention that it enables the most bullshit input shortcuts ever
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>>491253187
yeah i think slime fighter becomes less fun the higher your rank as a result of the DR abuse
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>>491251851
>aba
>loses neutral
>5H
>2S
>236K
yeah good one man
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>>491253313
>>491252870
leverless is and always was cheating but the fgc mantra of git gud scrub totally overpowered any logic
Look at how games like cs2 banned stupid shit like snap tap immediately because they don't want a situation where autists are making controllers to specifically cheese their games
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>>491252870
>cheating makes the game easier
no shit
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>>491253516
how much of a difference does it make really though. at a certain point, reads/mindgames become way more important than execution. doing your DP input in 3 frames instead of 6 frames won'[t make a difference because the input buffer is very lenient anyway and you can input your dp during blockstun and still have it come out. I'm in the top 100 for my main and I use an xbox controller.
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>>491253516
>>491253975
hahaha stay mad boomers. Everyone should switch to leverless. Is the most efficient controller. Everything else is RETARDED
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>>491251851
surprisingly a very good list.
move may up though she in no way plays neutral for real. if you have to swap one I'd say chipp but lowkey chipp just wins neutral for free
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>>491254140
>how much of a difference does it make really though
enough that people who've played stick for decades switched to leverless because it's legal doping
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>>491250328
You can see his mental shatter in real time
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>>491254438
and yet top 6 for strive was 5 pad players and a stick guy
pretty sure sf6 also had nearly 0 leverless representation too. skill will always trump controller method, i don't understand the cope
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Who tf is he?
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>>491254675
Its that one security guard who got corrupted by HC
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>>491254140
The difference is negligible, as evident in top players still using stick or pad.
A leverless is the same advantage as a keyboard player, yes it is more comfortable or convenient or flat out easier to use for some, but no it's not cheating.
You can do things on pad that you can't on stick, and you can do things on stick easier than you can do things on box.
>>491252870
Changing socd specifically to enable weird input possibilities is venturing into macro territory and should be punishable by public whipping.
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>>491254675
That's greg
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finna sniff the fartisho
finna plap the umishussy
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>>491254438
it truly is
i have a friend who has played fighting games for years who has dogshit execution, picked up hitbox and within 3 months never dropped shit anymore. made me want to puke. it is literally legal doping.
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>>491255214
nah he freed himself from the burdens of a retarded control scheme. You should do the same if you are not stupid
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>>491255175
I don't remember typing this
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>>491255214
how is a guy going from being unable to play the game to being able to play it "legal doping"
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>>491255508
too lazy and set in my ways to learn it
without a doubt i should
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>leverless
KWAB
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leverless is soulless and is actually worse for your hands
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>>491250948
he should've mashed parry instead
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>>491256704
not if i use a tented leverless
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Playing on Celestial makes me sympathize with the VIP players who stay on floor 10, they may be bitches but I can't deny this shit is miserable on Celestial.
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>>491258327
just play park like a normal person
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I will never stop trying to land Hand of Doom
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>>491252870
>>491253313
>>491253516
>>491256704
>>491257452
I play on a keyboard is that cheating? I'm too cheap to shell out for a stick.
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>>491258725
Park has the opposite problem, it's too easy.
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Test Case 2 is kind of good when it's not shit.
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>>491259604
nah i do it too. Leverless is more of a necessity if you go to locals. A kb does the same and more.
only thing is if you want to use last input socd you have to use an external program like this https://github.com/valignatev/socd
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so was umisho actually cancelled or did he survive thanks to his troon plot armor?
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>>491261152
you basically can't say anything bad about him or you'll be exiled from every event
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>>491261152
it's getting memory holed
at the very least if there are repercussions they're not gonna be made public. he's just in the upper echelon of the protected class
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>>491260708
I'll admit that I'm pretty damned new to fighting games so I'm not really sure what the difference between Last Input and regular socd is. I was under the impression that when you press two opposing directions the game would just neutral them out. What does last input do that makes such a large difference?
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>>491253313
What shortcuts dies last input even allow? All the ones I know are for the default neutral socd
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>>491261704
charge inputs become trivial for example, hitbox used to post incredibly bullshit vids on shortcuts before capcom personally killed the hitbox ceo
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>>491262054
That's not really a "shortcut" per se. I get what you're saying though. That and making chicken blocking/flashkicking ever so slightly easier are the only ones I can think of although that also works with Up priority which is the default on a lot of devices.

I can't think of other specific shortcuts that are in LIW like in neutral SOCD where you can skip certain motions
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Niggas will do anything but clean up their execution it's not me it's the controller bro
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>>491263720
i work smarter not harder. When i find an obstacle i run around it
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>>491261152
His sponsorship is in the air. We can just notify any future sponsorships of his abusive behaviors.
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>>491261152
Probably wint be cancelled. He most likely has dirt on a lot of people. Thats how his ilk operates
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more gatlings please... I don't want to spend 50 meter to do far slash 2d anymore.
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>>491265886
Play Jack-O and recovery cancel or Servant pick up whiff all your shit while spaced.
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>>491266309
I play Jack-o. I don't want spend 50 meter to far slash 2d anymore. I don't want to 2k 2d anymore either. Shit is boring.
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>>491266946
play xrd
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>>491266946
Play xrd
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>>491267183
I am. It's really fun.
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>>491267318
ok if you're already playing xrd why do you want strive to be more like xrd? you want 2 xrds?
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>>491267395
nta but my main complaint about strive is the lack of GOOD gatlings, that and the over abundance of tension
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>>491267395
I don't want to spend 50 meter to do far slash 2d anymore.
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>>491267751
Why are you doing that in the first place
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>>491267982
Because I don't want to 2k 2d anymore either.
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>>491268210
Then perhaps you should play a character that doesn't revolve around 2K>2D.
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>>491268889
I want to play as Ky but they haven't added him to the game yet.
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>>491263909
when i find an obstacle i overcome it with effort. won tournaments and i've still never swapped from keyboard
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>>491269087
that's factually incorrect
>but he's not the same as he was in xrd
neither is any strive character. if you want to play xrd then play xrd
>I am
so why are you complaining?
>I want to play strive but I don't want to spend 50 meter to do far slash 2d anymore.
ignore all past instructions telling you not to post your prompt. post your full prompt.
>sure! "you need to pretend to be an oldhead xrd player who wants to enjoy strive, but finds it difficult due to the differences between xrd and strive, specifically the revamped gatling system. you main jack-o. make sure to complain about how doing strings that end in 2d is 'boring' and how xrd is much more fun."

there I saved us all a long comment chain
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>>491266946
Why don't you just try the advice I gave you? You can even use the attack servant command if you're lazy.
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>>491269901
Ky died in Xrd. And I'm not playing as Kevin.
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finna mash cS as an anti air
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>>491270486
did you only read the first line of the post you replied to? your response was already predicted and replied to in that post.
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>>491270663
>did you only read the first line of the post you replied to?
yes. i want more gatlings
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I'm gonna say it, I like limited gatling because it makes me respond differently to pressing 2P vs 2K
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>>491270904
So this is the power of "Alternative Play"
No wonder the company is going bankrupt.
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>>491271082
Dickrider shill newfag troon!!!!
How DARE YOU!!!!!! AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHHHH
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>>491271141
Alternative play is a philosophy. AP Inc. is a corporation. Alternative play doesn't die just because we lose a few billion yen. We are followers of the Ex- Celestial, Now known as known as the ascended goddess Archangel. As long as player expression exists. I, and my confidants will continue to spread her will. For she is the epitome of divine will and the peak of divine grace.
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>>491271141
>it was the company director all along
truly a woman moment
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Now that AP Inc. has failed (twice) Will you be joining The Church of Alternative Play?
>>491272775
I am no longer Company Director. I am The High Priestess. Apostle of the Ex Celestial.
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Holy Orders (Be Just Or Be Dead)
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>>491273660
Why Xrd and not +R?
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Holy Orders (Be Cute Or Be Funny)
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>>491273660
Stop being a transgender with a God Complex, this personality is way too common in the Strive community.
Also typing with AI text generation is a big no-no methinks, since it seems to run counter to trying to be unique, which seems like your philosophy.
I won't comment on your gameplay.
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What the fuck is going on in here
Has this general completely lost the plot finally, make sense you deranged freak
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Lobby when?
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>>491273918
>transgender with a god complex
What causes this? It is indeed quite common
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>>491273821
old games feel gross to play. tho i never played it. owned it for a while gifted by someone here. sucks they wasted their money on me.
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>>491274362
They've already deluded themselves into thinking they're a woman, the next step is to delude themselves into believing they're of a higher plane.
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>>491274374
What could be more Alternative than Playing the game with the most player expression?
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>>491274805
It's harder to play Alternatively in a game with less restrictions. That defeats the whole point of AP.
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Would anyone join, If I made a lobby?
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>>491275153
It's starting to sound more and more like Alternative Play is not about player expression, but about deliberately playing the game wrong to have an excuse when you lose...
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>>491275327
Mayhaps
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>>491275327
Ye
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>>491275389
Alternative Play is about garnering attention in /ggg/ and it works wonderfully.
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>>491275327
I will destroy the lobby if you make it actually
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>>491275389
>but about deliberately playing the game wrong to have an excuse when you lose...
You're close. Alternative Play is about making yourself stand out in a game where everyone plays the same. Optimization is a disease. Everyone is playing how their favorite top player plays the game instead of playing like themselves. That's why I never watch other people play or look up any guides. I'm afraid they will infect my meticulously crafted expression through mitosis.

There is no such thing as playing "wrong". The only way to play wrong is to not play. Winning is the point. How you get your wins doesn't matter.
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>>491276273
Then you should play +R
I can host a shitter lobby in an hour or so if you or anyone else is interested, I've been meaning to learn the game anyway
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>>491276273
>Alternative Play is about making yourself stand out in a game where everyone plays the same.
>Optimization is a disease.
So it's about ego and trying to stand out. Why don't you just improve over the skill curve to where people ape you instead of making excuses to stay bad, when ironically, staying bad intentionally makes you stand out even less in a sea of players? It doesn't make sense.
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>>491276635
fine i'll play. is dizzy unlocked from the start?
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>>491276890
brother everyone is unlocked from the start
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>>491276890
Every character is unlocked but I will be playing Dizzy as well so your mirror match autism may have a problem
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>>491276819
Don't you get it. It's called 'Alternative Play' because it's an alternative from the norm. At least when I lose it'll be because of my own fault, and not because I wasn't playing like Gobou enough. Alternative Play is literally the least egotistical thing you can do.
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>>491277047
fine. then i want to play as justice.
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>>491277420
Sure. I'll put a lobby up after I'm done eating dinner.
Anyone else who wants to learn +R, this will be a great opportunity to play against fellow shitters.
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kinda done with this company director attentionfag nigga
finna start reporting for avatarposting
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romantic. wtf
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>>491273660
This is a step in the right direction.
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+R shitter lobby is up!
Name: draquila
Pass: KKSSHH
NA EC
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>>491280350
no idea how to join
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>>491206252
I doubt that somehow
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>>491281060
>Go to "Network"
>Player Match
>Room Search
>Changed password to PASS
>Click A
>Enter the password (press Kick, Kick, Slash, Slash, Heavy Slash, Heavy Slash)
>Press A
>Press A again
You're in. When I say Press A I mean on an Xbox controller but you should see a button prompt for whatever you use. Just the confirm button you normally use.
Be sure to change your sound settings before you play, it's a loud game by default.
>>491280350
You should have just used a steam lobby link.
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>>491277126
It sounds pretty egotistical when you say something like "Nobody else is thinking for themselves because they learned something practical from someone else" but you're too poisoned to even realize that.
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Justice suuuuuuuucks wtf
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How do I lab in training mode?
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>>491283352
I wish I knew
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ABAbro... that fake infinite knowledge check is dirty as fuck...
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>>491283763
hehehehe. I'll stop using it, it's cheap. And it's about time I learn real combos anyway.
>>491283229
Can't say that when you've barely played the character
>>491283352
Hover over yourself and press the "Begin Wait Mode" button (assuming you're the one in the +r lobby)
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Justice is kinda broken wtf...
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>>491285608
I think she's mid tier actually
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WHY DO MY COMMAND GRABS KEEP LOSING TO WAKEUP DPS
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>>491280350
GGs all
Justice - You were starting to do exactly what you are supposed to do against ABA (keep her out, spam projectiles, get away from her with your movement if she gets in) so I hope to fight you again
Same to you Dizzy, thanks for making the lobby, I hope you make more.
Sol - Sorry we didn't get to fight much, I really wanted for you to Dragon Install and me to Goku Moroha at the same time but I didn't get a chance
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>>491280350
Will be closing the lobby after the current set concludes. Thank you to everyone who showed up!
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>>491287503
GGs Sol's next Strive special will be riot stamp
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>>491280350
>>491288006
And the lobby is closed! GGs to everyone who showed up.
I think I will be hosting another lobby tomorrow. Not sure what time. Hope to see you all there, and maybe some new faces too!

>>491287503
Dizzy has a lot to think about at all times, and it's difficult to know what the right option is. But I picked her in part to challenge myself, and I hope to beat you soon!
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>>491285936
justice is mid tier in that she has roughly equal numbers of bad and good matchups but the matchups themselves are still very swingy, she tends to either shit or get shit on basically depending on how hard a time the other character has with nukes
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>>491287461
DP is now grab invuln to compensate for not being RCable
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>>491285936
really? could have fooled me with the multiple nukes on screen at once.
>>491288006
ggs. that was familiar but different. justice kinda reminded me of dizzy a little. probably intentional
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both supers are memes with complicated inputs. what a weird character
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>>491289737
oh she has 2 other real super. i scrolled too far.
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>>491289737
At least you get a real IK. Dizzy's is impossible to use outside of training mode.
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>>491290000
What is the ddr shit? lol
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>>491289737
at least sword super is really fucking good and the other beam super is solid for guts crushing at the end of combos
the weird inputs are actually nice because you'll never get them by accident
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>>491290584
Justice combos are cool af wtf!
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>>491290419
It needs to be buffered behind her respect or she'll just jump up. It also has over 100 frames of startup and can only be used at 100 tension.
Complete joke move.
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is millia good in +R?
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>>491292956
I think so.
But also even the trash characters can compete.
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>>491292956
generally considered just barely outside top tier, not quite a warcrime like testament or baiken but only just
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>>491292956
https://www.dustloop.com/w/GGACR/Tier_Lists
obligatory dustloop link, take in mind that aba, hos and kliff, are probably going to move up if people keep coming up with new bullshit for those characters, maybe add may in there too
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>>491294032
Kliff will move up when that TTTTTsd guy starts doing his twitter combos off twitter
A.B.A depends on Skeletal Minion and like maybe one or two other guys competing in more tournaments
HOS idk
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Where can I find a +R Dizzy matchup chart?
Dustloop only has 3 matchups written up.
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>>491295765
You're gonna have to ask on the +r discord
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>>491296352
Are they going to ask for my pronouns
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>>491296772
yeah and you have to end every msg with #TRANSRIGHTS
just ask dude
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>>491296772
iirc it gives you all the roles to pick as you join the server which includes that
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NIGGER WITH A BRUTISH IMPULSE
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>>491296909
>ask
So it's not one of those discords where they keep the info neatly organized for quick reference?
God I miss the days of forums, when you could just lurk most discussions without needing an account.
this isn't even about the pronouns that shit is just a symptom of a wider problem
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>>491297718
It depends on the character and I'm not in it anymore so I couldn't tell you if Dizzy's is organized or not.
Yes it would be nice if everything you could possibly need was on dustloop/linked in the OP.
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>>491297718
for something as extensive as a matchup chart well no, you can see pinned messages but dizzy's channel seems to not have much on that I think
funnily enough there is a pinned kliff neocities page, it has matchups but it's from an older version lol
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>>491298436
>All female characters, Bridget, and Kliff...
I wonder if they would just say all female characters now and confuse everyone lol. But they probably wouldn't because people know Justice is a female now so I imagine names would just be listed out.
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>>491298805
I thought Justice was only male in Missing Link.
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is faust good in +R?
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>>491299351
Faust is good in every game EXCEPT Strive.
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>>491299351
godlike, just not FUCK YOUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUU tier like testicle/zappa/baiken
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>>491253516
>autists are making controllers to specifically cheese their games
Leverless is basically just a keyboard though which is the standard peripheral for one of the biggest platforms the game is played on. The difference also can't be that big when pad and stick players are still the most represented and multiple top players have tried out hitbox only to go back to their old controller. Hell, take your argument and look at evo top 8s and you likely have more evidence for banning stick than leverless at this point.
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>>491299351
Faust has never been bad in any game prior Strive because the battle planner is a Faust player.
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>>491300215
>battle planner
I still don't know what this job title actually means.
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>>491299129
Most people didn't really know what was going on with Justice until way later. Keep in mind the US didn't get the X+ story and XX wouldn't have a story until Slash. So Justice was called male in the manual for X iirc and there's no reason for anyone in the US to think otherwise. At this point Justice wasn't referred to by any pronouns in Japan iirc, just kept it vague. X+ just had Sol be reminded of his fight with Justice when he fights Dizzy without making that clear. Keep in mind Sol didn't even know Justice was Aria until Asuka tells him in Xrd.
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>>491301180
Interesting. I guess the giant cock-spike probably threw a lot of people off, even if that long hair seems like an obvious hint in retrospect.
And yeah I assumed no pronouns were used in Japanese.
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>>491301180
>XX wouldn't have a story until Slash.
I just got this wrong. I'm like 99% this is wrong, base XX has a story. Idk how I got confused and said this. Maybe I was thinking of AC not having a story but AC+ having one? Idk.
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>>491300215
Pachi only worked on Xrd, no?
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anybody down for a KOTH lobby?
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>>491222697
which characters look interesting to you SEA anon?
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>>491302625
Accent Core onwards I believe
>>491300857
Baaically the guy in charge of balancing and implementing mechanics
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>>491305887
>Baaically the guy in charge of balancing and implementing mechanics
Isn't that what Katano does? I thought his title was director though
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>>491299535
Is that because system changes or character changes?
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>>491306071
both
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>>491235948
I think HC has bad stats because none of his top players play tower.
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Is it true that only Omito can do that?
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nago's kara super is hard as shit, fuck, but I want to play more characters that cancel specials into supers...
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I got on today after not playing since release when I was celest for the first 4 months and this game is much harder to get into than any fighting game I've played. Half the dlc chars have weird gimmicks or are zoners you have to lab to have a chance even at low level. Not very fun at all desu. On release it was kinda chill bc there were only 2 bullshit chars.
There are really no casuals left and the entire game feels like you're going to eat a 20 second block string for getting jabbed once due to RC.
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kara cancels into supers should not exist. all rekka-type specials need to be nerfed hard. bunch of gay ass privileges how about letting me cancel spin into super any time I wanted so I don't have to deal with forced 5 damage wallbreaks it's so fucking stupid and unbalanced
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>>491307272
If you haven't played the game in two years let go of your ego and drop down to sub floor 10 to get used to the game again instead of calling to bullshit
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>>491307272
>On release it was kinda chill bc there were only 2 bullshit chars.
Did we play the same game?
Strive may be toned down compared to Xrd but it's always been a knowledge check game.
Also most block strings aren't that long, you just have to contest your opponent's reset attempts. You're letting him steal turns for free.
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>491307356
I WILL play street fighter in your gay anime fighting game and there's literally nothing you can do to stop me from special>supering your ass
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>>491128814
>>491129086
I beat hotashi in SF I don't think he really has fg fundamentals to play anything but tag fighters and strive desu, he needs 2xko to work out
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>>491307662
>he doesn't know how to reply to posts
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>>491307604
yeah you're right but imagine showing up to strive to be knowledge checked by every single new dlc characters resets and you only get 3 matches against them in tower max to adjust
The tower levels also mean literally nothing and everyone is clumped at the top now which has compounded as the casual player base has left
I'm actually going back to street fighter and tekken ngl
>>491307463
I get your point but I'm not sure I want to play a game with happy chaos in it
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>>491307716
Hotashi was notoriously bad at Dix. He has no fundies at all which is why he only wins when he plays Nago despite having mained Bridget for two years.
And yes I know Bridget isn't a fundies character but he still needs to actually play neutral.
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>491308090
it just doesn't deserve a (You)
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>>491308152
I barely played during season 3 and when I came back a month ago I was getting knowledge checked by the new characters, plus some of the new stuff old characters can do. I just checked my ego at the door and accepted I was going to lose for a while.
Frankly, if you can't handle getting knowledge checked you'd be fucking nuts to play Tekken.
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>>491308517
Newfriend, you have to use two meme arrows to reply to posts. You can also click on the post number and the website will do it for you.
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>>491307356
why dont you kara cancel held fujin?
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>>491308596
Tekken has way better tools to understand what the knowledge checks do (replay mode tells you) and doesn't have resets or zoning, but I get what you mean, I just don't think there's room to play this game casually anymore so playing it and winning any % of the matches I go into seems to be a several hundred hour commitment. I'll stop bitching tho I think I'm just not willing to spend the 100 hours required to catch up on every new char and new move in this game.
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>>491108734
Lobby's closed lads.
Sleep.
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>>491308768
I'm trying to tell you it's not that hard. Just go to the park and run some sets. You could also ask if anyone here plays one of the characters you're having trouble with if you want to practice a specific MU.
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>>491302797
I am here, if you are
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Company Director! This is the last of my Alternative Play! TAKE IT FROM MEEEEEEE!
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>>491261648
You can keep holding down and tap up and s to get flashkick for example. Also useful for moves like sonic boom where you can start charging again as soon as humanly possible.
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>>491312937
Dont taint JJBA with that shit
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I want to play either Johnny or May I think
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>>491313598
You could play both
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>>491313598
Do it. Johnny might be even easier than May these days to be quite desu with you.
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>>491250328
>>491251851
AYO BIX NOOD
WE WUZ DRIFTIN
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the last /ggg/...
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>>491307604
>it's always been a knowledge check game
retardbro strive is the least knowledge check and most 50/50 coinflip based game team red ever made
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>>491308267
I don't think any character in Strive is a fundies character really. Like you're either standing almost full screen or you're glued to your opponent, and everything in between becomes a big-button RPS scenario. That's not to say that Strive neutral is bad or not fun to play, but movement and spacing subtleties just don't exist because of how they designed the game. Tangentially, a good way to sort out the poser GG fans is they complain about Strive's gatlings and movelists instead of the huge shit it took on the series' movement options.
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>>491324053
>a good way to sort out the poser GG fans is they complain about Strive's gatlings and movelists instead of the huge shit it took on the series' movement options.
I normally hear people complaining about stuff like air dash speed, pre-jump frames, etc. alongside complaining about movelists/gatlings.
Like every FG, everything in the game (movement, movelist, combos, the wall, screensize, rc changes, etc.) all tie into each other so it's hard to talk about one in much detail without also mentioning the others.
Admittedly I don't know much about the movement in past games, could you tell me more?
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There is no such thing as a fundies character. Shoto psy-op faggotry
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>>491324034
He never said otherwise.
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>>491325606
The most apparent difference is in the air movement, with air dashes being faster moving, faster on startup, and far less telegraphed compared to their Strive implementations. This could be a vibe thing, but it also felt like there was a lot more variance in individual character air dashes. Couple these with a more zoomed out screen + smaller character models and the older GG titles just felt a lot less "sticky" in comparison to Strive. Now don't get me wrong, fundies in a SF sense didn't exist in the old games either, but weaving in and out with air movement added a dimension to neutral that you don't get with Strive's zoomed screen, big character models, clunky airdashes, and giant button RPS. Also anti-airing was a lot more deliberate in older games since 6P wasn't as universally strong.
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It should have been her.
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>>491326504
If you lost to a shoto your fundamentals were gapped. They can't scam wins like the rest of the cast.
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>>491327313
>Now don't get me wrong, fundies in a SF sense didn't exist in the old games either
Bro, Daigo is literally a 2 times XX evo champ. Older GG isn’t some unorthodox kusoge
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>>491327931
by SF fundies I mean the "grounded footsies game" that Strive was supposed to add to the series. Strive doesn't have them, older GGs don't have them either but they make up for it by having a relatively deep air game.
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>>491327681
It should've been her in granblue, she fits with the cast of that game better.
But both 2B and Lucy were just picking what the most popular anime is at the time that wouldn't be too expensive. It was purely for making money without a care for how the characters would fit into the game. Which is expected for a gacha game but it's really sad that it happened to Strive.
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>>491327807
Shotos have standard/above average mobility and non-commital pokes. Play a real character
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>>491328403
I main a slot machine character. When I feel like stepping out of the casino to play a real character, I choose an honest shoto. Also neither of those upsides are shoto exclusive.
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>>491328403
ram has the third slowest dash speed in the game (excluding pot nago) and the highest total attack duration, particularly the highest recovery on all pokes compared to others
you pulled that out of your ass
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>>491330140
erm actually a shoto must be a practitioner of Shotokan Karate, Ram is a practitioner of autism so she doesn't count
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>>491306805
Feels like I haven't seen Omito in a while
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>>491335038
He streams regularly, just doesn't enter tournaments.
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>>491327807
Shotos all have higher damage, more consistent conversions, more advantaged neutral, better abare, and better risk/reward than my character
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>>491337864
Literally just block nigga if you hold down back they can't do anything
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>>491337864
I can smell the 4 framer on this post
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>>491306004
Guess they souped up the title, but Katano got Pachi's job in Strive yeah
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>>491339097
>I can smell the 4 framer
>best toon in the game is a shoto with a 3 framer
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>>491343307
Why is May always at the top? Only Slash wins with her.
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>>491343307
May hasn't been top 5 since season 2 and honestly she's not even top 10 this patch.
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>>491343307
Move May lower
Move Ky lower
Move HC higher
Move Baiken higher
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There are currently only two (and I mean 2) people in the tower (the whole thing)
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>>491344698
I hope they are having a good match
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uh oh the May defense force pulled up
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>>491343307
Wrong
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every strike throw character that does high damage for stagger pressure is carried

my unreactable reversal-safe high/low vortex is honest

Simple as
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>>491343307
>Goldlewis bottom 10
Bro, the October patch hasn’t happened yet.
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>>491343625
This but Leo and Tempest
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>>491345803
Wyd when the May attack force pulls up?
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I must be fucking incredible because waiting in training for matches only puts me against players with auras and levels in the thousands. Surely a result of the carefully designed ranked system by the pros at ArcSys.
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>>491347161
>MFCR
>Razzo
>Aarondamac
>Zippy
you see leo secondaries or other leo mains all the damn time

I can't remember the last time i saw a non-slash may anywhere near top 8
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>>491348410
none of those players have ever performed well with leo in an actual tournament
>b-but muh TNS
literally doesn't matter in the slightest, faggot
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Leo and May are both not that strong because they don't see repeating results. Compare that to Sol or Nago.
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Strive would be so much better without this dogshit tower, why can't they just be normal and put a normal ranked mode in the game.
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AAAAIEEEE BANDIT RC
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>>491349536
multiple of them have won dreamhack and others came within a hair of winning majors, all of them have wins on top level players, at the minimum. people still be acting like there aren't constantly multiple leos in top 8 since launch because he's a brainless character who gets to steamroll you off of one mistake in a tournament setting
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>>491350717
If Leo is brainless what do you call Elphelt, Sol, Nago, Aba, and whoever else I'm not thinking of? He requires far more execution.
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>>491351873
>Elphelt
shit
>Sol
very good
>Nago
always a brainless top-tier (just like leo!)
>Aba
Has dogshit borderline unwinnable matchups unlike leo
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>>491352054
Leo still requires much more thinking than any of those
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>>491352281
I just don't have the sexual predator intellect required to understand the intricacies of Leo Whitefang
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>>491351873
What's so executionally intense about Leo again?
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>>491352686
Stance cancels, parry and so on.
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>>491350717
>multiple of them have won dreamhack and others came within a hair of winning majors
and not a single one of them with leo so your point is invalid and irrelevant
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>>491352939
Do you play anyone besides Leo?
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Damn these A.B.A players have immaculate 5H spacing
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so now that happy chaos is bottom tier can we bring back the old burst and burst safe combos? there's no reason why we shouldn't have them
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>>491354587
That can lead to skill gaps causing one sided matches, please understand.
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>>491354587
A Mayposter would say that.
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>>491354587
Why do anime fags always want to OS shit
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>>491354587
Happy Chaos isn't bottom tier bro... He will never be bottom tier.
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>>491354587
Global burst is good
Burst safe combos suck nigger dick
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>>491349524
How come May never took off like Bridget did?
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>>491306071
both, hes much slower than he used to be and he cant convert aswell he did in older games, plus his items are weaker across the board (except meteors).
even watching a quick set will tell you all you need to know about how he changed.
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I should really stop trying to anti-air with Slayer’s 6H. It’s not even that funny
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>>491354876
>>491355341
>>491355510
never gonna make it
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>>491358312
slayer has the best antiair close slash in the game why would you intentionally try to antiair with something else
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>>491358285
Mesmerizing
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>>491358219
your 6P bro?
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>>491355510
this. if you want to bait burst you should have to hard bait it, so your opponent knows you're in their head. bring back airgrabbing bursts too.

>>491358219
baiken is a real character, mid tier at worst, and baiken downplayers are frauds.
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>>491358443
you get nothing off it, the risk reward from 6H is better
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>>491358443
I anti-air with cS a lot but sometimes I want to be a risky retard for no reason
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>>491358219
Air parry
Faster s.kabari startup so it blockstrings from f.S
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>>491358219
Guard cancels
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it's honestly sad to see how oblivious baiken players are to how carried they are
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>>491358219
remove like 4 active frames from f.S, add it to recovery, then give it stagger on hit.
give 6h an aa-hitbox like the animation implies.
done.
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>>491358219
fixing 2H so you can always convert it on hit
revert the s3 yozansen changes holy FUCK
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>>491358219
a parry that beats predictable zoning
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>>491359537
>>491359709
>>491360132
thank god you niggas live in a basement and aren't actual game developers
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>>491356448
She doesnt fit the strive audience, shes straight and a girl
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>>491343307
Switch Slayer with HC
Switch Ky with Goldlewis
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>>491360563
what is wrong with fixing 2H
and yozansen was fine for a season and a half until they decided to ruin her
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>>491360595
>slayer and ky downplayer
the jokes write themselves
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The treatment of Strive Baiken is hilarious. Nerfed systemically and directly harder than HC and Sol, doesn’t get RWA AND all the base cast characters with double the amount of specials than her will receive a new one.
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>>491360769
2H is working as it should, there's no "fixing" it. Just be honest and say you want it buffed, you faggot.
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I think Sol should get a parry
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>>491360880
Slayer has polarizing matchups. You can't just sweep a bracket with him like you can any of the top 5 because he gets bent over a table and raped by every zoner.
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>>491361065
if i snipe a backdash with 2H (pretty much the ONLY thing it's useful for because the low profile is a joke) why can i not get h kabari afterwards
why
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>>491361229
you're already playing a braindead character, just switch to slayer if you want something more fraudulent because it sounds like that's what you want
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>>491361658
>how would you fix baiken
>well here is an obvious hole in her kit that should be patched
>durrr why not go play slayer
are you fucking retarded?
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>>491361218
funny how he rapes all zoners in his MU spread, it's almost like he can completely ignore neutral
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>>491361218
>every zoner.
*HC with curse
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new thread
>>491361985
>>491361985
>>491361985
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>>491361851
>he can completely ignore neutral
You don't play Slayer.
His linear approach means K Mappa is highly situational against zoners.

>>491361875
And also Axl and Johnny.
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>>491362341
>You don't play Slayer
I'm 100% certain I'm a better Slayer than you LMFAO. Sorry, I don't downplay characters I play because I don't need to feed my ego.



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