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Actually cemented edition

>News
30.2 Patch Notes: https://hearthstone.blizzard.com/en-us/news/24122902/30-2-patch-notes
Check in to the In-Game Shop for Free Gifts!: https://hearthstone.blizzard.com/en-us/news/24116733/check-in-to-the-in-game-shop-for-free-gifts
Definition of Cement: https://dictionary.cambridge.org/dictionary/english/cemented
Declaration of Cement: https://x.com/Frodan/status/1230169123532894210

>Decklists
https://hsreplay.net/meta/ – deck tier lists (bronze to gold)
https://vicioussyndicate.com/ – meta report
https://hsguru.com/ – previously d0nkey - streamer decks
https://hearthstone-decks.net/ - decks for all modes (wild, twist, etc)
https://outof.cards/ – decks, patch notes, news (includes other card games)
https://hearthstonetopdecks.com/ – decks & news
https://beerbrick.com/ - deck lists from Twitter (Japanese)
https://metastats.net/ – meta decks and stats
https://tempostorm.com/hearthstone/meta-snapshot – meta report
https://hearthpwn.com/ – decks, news, patch notes
https://hsbgguide.com/ - Battlegrounds

>Deck trackers & statistics
https://hsreplay.net/downloads – deck tracker
https://go.overwolf.com/firestone-app/ - deck tracker
https://heartharena.com/ – arena helper
https://github.com/supertriodo/Arena-Tracker - arena helper

>Misc.
https://playhearthstone.com/ – official website
https://hearthstone.wiki.gg – wiki
https://battlefy.com/browse/hearthstone – tournaments
http://hearthcards.net/ – custom card maker

>helpful links
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1MmLTCm7vdg5icVF4dAQhHf8sO_AZvE4gwO8NuQE8oxQ J_Alex' course on shadow puppets
https://docs.google.com/document/d/18pIaTLcGhaWf7kHKeItJckbCBT9fMjuzLxMKluCpxVs (/hsg/'s shitty word doc[feel free to edit])
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C_2ztdp5x80

We were cemented for 18 hours >>490264853
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truly ded game
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no one post
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>Rogue Meta
>Rogue trannnies stuck at 100+ Legend.
Rogue bros are we too stupid to win when we have the best deck in the game?
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>how i sleep knowing cora wil be fired by the end of the year
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I am actually having fun with BGs
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CEMENTED
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>>491212639
going full automaton whenever mechs are in is peak comfy and relatively easy to do/set up
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>>491216594
Full automaton is easy modo.
But undead is lowkey good as well.
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SHITmented
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>>491210452
OP of previous several threads here
I saw that we didn't have thread this morning (12 hours ago), but decided not to make one, because i'm quite fed up with the game.
realized HS has become a chore - do my quests, do my climbs, do my weekly tavern brawls, etc., etc, and forgot what was like to have fun in a game until I started playing Turtle WoW...
I'm still lurking, but definitely feels like its over for me.
Thank you for freeing me, Cora and Aleco
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>>491221040
thanks for your service
and a warning for any future OPs: i will NOT stop posting about how the game is rigged whenever i see the thread pop up. simple as
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>>491221040
o7
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This game is legit finished
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When is the next tourney? It was fun laughing at the state of the game.
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>refresh missions
>they dissapear
Nice fucking game
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>>491222150
Next season
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reminder why we are cemented
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>Make something moderately cool
>Make it a retard price
>Aww man why no one buy : (((
No one outside of the most retarded of whales is dropping $50 on a pack of png's
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>>491225930
Blame the Greymane.
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LOL. LMAO even!
btw how many hours was this general non-existent? kek. Fucking dead game.
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>>491210452
>store panics and shits itself when trying to give free packs
If this isnt a red flag I dunno what to tell ya'll
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>>491225930
Shit, I would pay a little, those are cool signature. Shame about the retard pricing.
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>>491225930
>release diamond aman'troon 7 months before it rotates out
and some fucking whale will buy this.
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>Diamond Ragnaros skin for Druid.
Should've just done Paladin, since the Shaman slot's already taken desu
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>>491224957
What the fuck ITSOVER.
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>>491229861
Surely they wouldn't give a hero with a melee hero power a ranged animation. That would be a flavour disaster.
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had a pretty fun build going, blackthorn with the trinkets:
>avenge 4: give your blood gems +1/+1 this game
and
>avenge 4: give your blood gems +2/+2 this game
to synergize with deathrattle pirates
unfortunately got 1HKO'd by a murloc highroller who scaled into the thousands, but it's neat seeing the wacky builds you can go for
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>>491231545
yea, the snowballing is far more potent so far. i'm considering just conceding nowadays if i don't get a good minor trinket
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>>491225930
>No one outside of the most retarded of whales is dropping $50 on a pack of png's
what's really blackpilling is finding out that this actually works and things are priced like that because it simply works
it's a better use of your time as devs to hit one single billionaire whale than it is to please 100k serious gamers who give you somewhere from $0-$5 on average per lifetime
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>>491225930
the fact that they release them at this price means there are people buying them
their marketing team isn't retarded, they don't just put out shit nobody is buying
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>>491225930
>>491233810
the sad thing is if they knocked off like $10 for the tess bundle i'd 100% buy it, for all those diamond bundles that used to cost $30 for just the signature card I bought like ETC and lorthemar but now costs $60 for 2 signature legendarys my desire to buy them is zero too
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>>491235231
A small thing in the grand scheme of things but blizzard doesn't do regional pricing too
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Just played a couple games in wild to the end (1 win 1 lose) and it didn't count for the brawl substitute quest
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>>491236792
nvm reloading fixed it and awarded me the pack
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well as i predicted trinkets in battlegrounds are just another version of quest rewards, fucking gay
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>>491241085
Yeah I played for a day and I'm back to not wanting to touch the game mode.
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>>491231545
I'm over here with the ol' reliable
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>>491241676
if only...

https://youtu.be/J_w5q6RkQeY?t=104
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>>491225930
>Half a hundred dollars
Don't let the ol' $X.99 trick deceive you, even if it only takes an effortless second glace to figure it out.
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where were you when aggro-lite killed hearthstone?
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>>491228510
Oh wow, instead of paying 1000 gold, I pay 900!
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stole and modified a list from that zetalot priest guy because I don't want to craft hedanis or love everlasting, stops aggro lite dead in its tracks. ETC is viper, 2nd puppet theatre and shadow word ruin
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>>491248301
Mind sharing the original
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>>491248581
this is from his vod, but he changes something almost every day
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>Control players still trying.
Let it go guys. The archetype is dead.
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>>491250593
16 mana trogg and doomkin kills control if you want control you forced to druid or warrior(green druid)
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>>491250593
overheal priest is a control deck (retarded control players fail to notice this). also don't play the zeta version, he added bad cards to an insane deck because he is brain-damaged
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>>491253417
remove hedanis and we talk.... otherwise - combo otk
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>>491253417
Nostalgic Zoo is a control deck vibes.
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>>491253660
>it has a wincon so it isn't control
you win 90% of your games spamming amanthul and removing boards. seek help
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oh no now i have to play warrior, gross
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>>491255705
>falling for it
just disenchant it and make whatever deck you want
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>>491255705
Crazy that Cliffside OTK avoids nerfs because decks can do even more broken shit.
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>>491255835
you say this as though i don't already have enough dust to do that
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I literally cant win a single game on ladder anymore. if I play druid I dont draw ramp,wl no crescendo, dk run out of gas and no draw
I just want one deck I can actually climb with...
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How do they go from Diamond.(I actually bought a whole set to Get the Naga one) to Signature cards which are just completely out of place awful looking. Like it looks like I'm playing a different TCG.
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>>491256343
Stream to improve your luck.
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>>491253304
Control warrior is at 30% winrate.
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What is Mages identity?
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>Naga hero
>same setup as me
Dude is crazy.... but second place good for him
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>>491257230
Is that a new class?
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why can't they just make the regular card frame show up when you hover a signature? i don't want to read a shitty textbox, i want to read a normal one. i don't want to have to do anything to begin with but at the very least provide me with some option to understand the rules in a normal way
signatures look cool but are toxic as fuck as implemented
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>>491257408
No It's an old one. got rotated to wild about a couple of years ago.
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>game stuck in initializing update
wut do
I'm not used to troubleshooting blizzard shit
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>>491259965
repair (actually download 10 gb again) i have same issue every update
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>>491260236
you have to be kidding me
God fucking damn it
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>>491259965
just wait
happened to me too
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>>491260380
never had issues with HS untill CORA and her FEARLESS team takes lead...
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>>491261812
2 late
already 6gbs in

>>491261959
I don't know shit about the team I just play battlegrounds while doing some exercise
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>>491261959
Game is on less than a skeleton crew right now broski. (New interns with no engine knowledge)
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>a recent opponent would like to be your friend
I love wishing well rogue
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Best pack I've had in a while
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>>491264269
Wow any mage spell that costs less than 3? That must be INSANE.
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>Open free pack from shop
>Golden Lynessa
>This unlocks signature Power Spike from cheevos
>Reroll commons
>Golden 2/1 naga nigger (it's 100% getting nerfed)
It's insane how this game tries to lure you back in if you stop playing for a couple weeks.
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>>491264529
The lock card might be good after rotation and for combo shit in wild and the elemental does see play in a shaman deck, so they're not that bad of drops
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I thought you hearthpigs were done for good after the last thread. Apparently not.
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I was hoping for the sweet release of death but OP had to go and make another.
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>>491256403
a lot of people have the opposite reaction. they like that sigs are quieter visually golden/diamond frames. i've gone full circle from full-gold/diamond decks to preferring the look of plain cards with the occasional sig.
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>>491257230
getting nerfed every time it has an otk
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>lethal on board
>concede
>dont progress quest because my I had more than 15 HP
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>new battlegrounds
>first game finish dead last because of earlygame sweatlords
ok, this is going to be a painful season
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>>491269150
stop gather lategame comps chud be tempochad
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>Have 12 gold
>Spend 9 to upgrade
>Have 1 gold left
Huh?
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>>491271437
trinket cost
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>>491272283
Thought it was a one time thing, good to know they've implemented taxation into the game.
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>>491225930
sneed brokie
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>log with reno priest
>expect druids
>4 evolve niggers in row
>i cant even boardclear
>log off
tnx for reading my blog
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>>491221040
I figured it was this, good job keeping the general going but really it's ok for it to die, let the cement drag us down in the abyss.
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soooo is anyone else not getting xp for playing battleground games on the regular rewards track?
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The Bazaar is coming
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>decide to gachapig a random signature bundle
well i only have myself to blame
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>>491278576
Stuck at level 2, yeah.
So cool, especially with the greatly thought out changes they did to battlegrounds!
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>>491279036
>>491276385
oink oink
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why do all the base set signatures on the store look like ai slop
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>>491279036
good news! you can dust it
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>go to standart
>10 loses
>go to bg
>10 wins(1-4 place)
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how the fuck do i get dust for new decks in this shit i just returned back to the game and checked whats meta and all of tier 1 decks cost 10.5k dust wtf i only have 3935 after i made elemental mage which cost around 2k so i could at least play the game. Got returners deck i picked DH which all said have best dust value but after dusting it i only received like only 1.5k dust?? Where the fuck do i get the rest 8k dust from? I want pain warlock because i love warlock but o cant fucking afford it
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>Update breaks
>Have to redownload the game
>Play a few Battleground games
>Battlegrounds XP doesn't work
>Claim the free deck on the store
>It disappears from my inventory
>Play a ranked game
>Can't claim the free pack
What the fuck is wrong with this update?
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>>491285623
>reroll quest
>dissapeared
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>>491285623
blizzard devs are nepo babys
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>fat fuck zeddy will die in your lifetime
I'm so fucking happy bros
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>>491285623
Remember, you have to be patient with these fresh faced, Computer Science majors hired straight out of college for minimum wage. They laid off their 18 year lead engineer (who had ACTUAL Unity engine experience) all just to save a buck.
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hey, the current team has done important things. like introduce 5 different silver hand recruits.
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>>491289695
i can't thank them enough for representing me and my people like this
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Here me out...
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>>491296172
would be in literally every deck except diaper
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>>491296172
no booba allowed only fat women or fat faggots or twink faggots
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>>491225930
The weird thing about this is that the art is great. But it clashes with the current art style so much. It's slightly jarring. It would fit better in 2015
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>>491221040
I made several generals as well and didn't even bother trying to make a new one yesterday. Dead game by incompetent team who don't understand the game they inherited from superior devs.
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>>491225930
That shadow step is great
>50 dollars
You have got to be shitting me
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>>491267849

i started dusting all my golden's if they don't look like potential nerf targets and use cash in on some good dust. just more ugly clutter in my collection and they haven't looked good in years, no idea why they even exist at this point
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This game is so fucking fake, holy shit, shuffle my FUCKING ass. Faggot fucking retard game
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>still no golden pack
cora...
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>>491288670
huh huh
huh huh
he said tool engineer
huh huh
BOIIIING!
huh huh
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>>491288670
>Unity engine experience
I guess this is part of why the gameplay boards got cut. And the lack of detail on Skin animations lately.
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>>491256403
The only real solution is to wait around and Quest a while. You can get decent resources but it takes a long time of daily quest grind.
There's some tricks like focusing on each set's first 10 packs having a guaranteed Legendary, and doing the dumb Book of Heroes Solo Adventure for a few packs, maybe going Arena if you got any spare Passes, check for that just in case. But yeah, nothing that will get a lot of Dust fast.
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>people cheating in brawl
l e l
e
l
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>>491315510
Cheaters treat a game like this as if it were a roguelike. Get lots of resources really quick, try to highroll, try to get a 'high score', die, try again.
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>>491288670
>Remember, you have to be patient with these fresh faced, Computer Science majors hired straight out of college for minimum wage. They laid off their 18 year lead engineer (who had ACTUAL Unity engine experience) all just to save a buck.
Considering how shitty the hearthstone client runs and all the bugs they constantly introduce or reintroduce i'm pretty sure this guy is no loss.
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>>491316678
I feel that. Remember how long the Shop was laggy as fuck. Shit that's simple but doesn't load quick has 'sub-optimized Unity' written all over it.
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>>491317598
>I feel that. Remember how long the Shop was laggy as fuck. Shit that's simple but doesn't load quick has 'sub-optimized Unity' written all over it.
I feel like anyone transferred to the HS team (celestroon) or the people who work on the client probably couldn't cut it elsewhere in blizzard and got dumped on something they "couldn't possibly fuck up".
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>>491315510
how? I want to cheat as well.
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But Blizzard has an elite team of programmers rigging your precise draws. Sure.
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JIA HELP FFS
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I finally did it, guys. I joined the free2play elite. Only took some years of what amounts to dusting chores with marginally less board interaction.
What do now? Well, the funny thing is, the Gold is mostly a nest-egg and won't affect anything I'm doing no matter what I spend it on, if I just burned it now. I don't know if I'll ever spend all the Dust, I'd need to want to try that many decks, but Standard is so bleh it hardly feels like I want to keep up with that. Wish there was more stuff to spend Dust on, I'd dump so hard on whatever that would be, even Skins.
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If you try to tell me what hero to pick in duo, I'm going to throw the game in the most time consuming way possible
Simple as
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this is what bg took from you, hunters
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don't touch druid or else aggro-lite might suffer
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>>491327209
and this is why I don't play duo
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>Quest are not tracking because Blizzard fucked up
>Again
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>>491333440
And I will NOT be sending you that tier 1 minion on turn 10
cope
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it feels like games have been decided by the same 5 cards for half a year. its honestly incredible how boring standard is
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>board of pirates
>heres your trinkets
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>>491337121
Pivot to Automaton and win.
Unironically.
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>wildchud brawliseum
>It's heroic
I SHANT play it.
Give me brawliseum for draft tickets.
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>>491338104
Fuck yes, this.
I'd love a reason to burn the tickets I got.
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>>491338379
Idk why they never did the non-heroic brawliseum ever again
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>>491337121
Just looking at a Battlegrounds screenshot makes my brain melt. And people are expected to pick one of those on a timer?
The old Hearthstone devs who kept screaming 'if we change anything people will quit' are writhing like fuck seeing a screenshot like this.
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>>491338559
We know why. It's money.
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>>491338805
If that was the reason arena wouldn't exist.
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>>491339016
KYS shill.
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>>491341082
???
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>some anons still think we are plagued by midrange decks ending games on turn 5
quite sad honestly
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Guys, how do you win arena games? I only ever won like 4 games max. And these days, I'm even more confused about what to pick. All picks are shit. Meanwhile my opponents have crazy decks.
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Reminds me of Midrange Paladin that just OTK's with Mysterious Challenger.
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>topdeck
>highroll
>random coinflip
every single game. always. everytime
I dusted all my cards I will never play anything but bg ever again
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>this image had multiple tournament level Rogue players completely ass-devastated on stream
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>>491343618
pick discover/value generator everytime
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>>491243750
Who is being deceived? Everyone recognized it as $50
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>>491344602
Baffling post. Correctly recognizes standard hearthstone is rigged and is appropriately disgusted by it. Then immediately turns around and plays a different rigged game mode designed by the same exact people?? Hello??? BG has even more of a direct slot machine comparison than standard does
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>>491346587
naw, BG screws you over sometimes true, but I can consistenly shape out top 4 with bad heroes and supoptimal shops
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>>491301465
yep. the only goldens i hold on to are some legendaries and a few old favorite cards. scrolling through the collection is a much nicer experience now
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Quests are not working???? Holy shit fix this garbage 10 year old trash game. im getting 0 progress on any quests.
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>>491349812
are they updated if you restart? i cleared my "play 3 games with x" quest this morning
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>>491296630
idk about that. think about the most extreme, starting hp 1 with 1 card, which would clearly be unplayable. is 20/20 actually some magical number or does it come with enough drawbacks that it isn't good?
imagine a 20 card burn deck became meta, people would just play classes that have enough heals and diapers to put burn out of reach
anyway it's really sad that i care more about this shitpost argument than i do about actually playing hs
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>>491347590
yes but you've bought into the meme that getting top 4 is "winning". when autochess games came out, the point was to win. as in, you get 1st place. then the devs of these games realized player retention is higher if they tell half the pool they "won" even when only 1 person actually won
anyway, flexing about having a 55% "winrate" isn't a flex. you're bragging about the corporate algorithm doing its job. you're literally supposed to get top 4 slightly more than 50% of the time in rigged games
the redpill is accepting that your "skill edge" is written into the script
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>>491346351
It's subtle manipulation, even if it's one that everyone knows. There's a reason why everything is priced at .99 instead of rounding it up
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>>491344836
Beats dragging the green minion/removal on curve honestly
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>>491276385
You genuinely disgust me.
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any meta breakers in chat
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>>491353000
>Beats dragging the green minion/removal on curve honestly

If you didn't enjoy popping minions on curve and strategizing your removal you don't really enjoy true hearthstone. This modern bastardization of the game is truly what's sickening
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>>491362520
I miss Toast, he's a sell-out, yeah, but motherfucker knew how to twist a meta.
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>>491363123
>strategizing your removal
hasn't existed since Discover was introduced, and no one would still be playing this game if it weren't for Discover
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>Turbulent Tombs
>In a beast lobby
I already won on turn 1
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>your next opponent is Marin
yeah prepare to 15 damage cap....
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>email about the new season of rumble
gigakek. wtf i thought they literally EOSed that game
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>>491287161
He's clearly in great health, you're going to lose this bro
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>frost dk is supposedly the best deck
>lose every single game because druids have 20 mana by turn 5 and warlocks play popgar through my cold feet and heal to full
I guess I am just bad but I used to have so much fun in standard a couple expansions ago and now it just depresses me everytime I try
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>>491369212
i played that game for a month and a half. maxing quests were too much of a timesink, and disliked the fomo-laden limited time events. one of the things i appreciate about hearthstone is how chill it is to keep up with dailies/weeklies when you're not loving the game
>inb4 "if you're playing a game you're not loving to complete quests you fell for the fomo trap"
it's different ok it just is let me have my cope
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Crazy how there are 8 OTK combo decks for every class but mage doesn't have one LOL.
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>>491371401
mage has one and it kills you on 4
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>no new classes in 2024 confirmed
how do I cope with this information
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>>491371487
>just don't brick companion
such a dogshit deck, design for that card is retarded.
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>>491371401
reno decks and meme control lords were dying to sif, it was unacceptable
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>>491371831
>how do I cope with this information
this should make you happy because they might hire someone with good ideas before they cement a new class
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>>491225669
the cementing started when a blizzard suit decided to make competitive hs youtube exclusive and destroyed the competitive scene, twitch hearthstone viewership, and whatever excitement still remained for the game on that platform. but yeah, greenlighting and shipping mercs was embarrassing and an incredible waste of resources. but losing literally all of the best talent on the team to riot or elsewhere within blizzard is what really fucked this game. so much institutional experience and knowledge evaporated, and now we have kids learning on the job (in jobs they would not have been qualified for had blizzard not been dogshitretarded at retaining talent).
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>try sandwich control
>dies to wheelofdeath
>dies to 16 mana trogg doomkin
>dies to plagues (created by btw)
>dies to 10 mana dk ultimate
nice riggin system Skynet.... who the fuck plays 10 mana spell plagues and wheel in legend ?
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>Play dogshit
>Get matched against dogshit
>Your dogshit is more dogshit than their dogshit
many such stories
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>>491376386
>>491376569
at a certain point you will only face bots who play worgen infiltrator. you can play against these bots all the way to legend with your unplayable meme deck, at least in wild.
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>let's give overheal a sho-ACK
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>>491377151
anon... packs....
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I was about to craft a fun deck but then I remembered I will only encounter aggro anyway
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>>491378959
I'm saving for the mini.... and they're all in different packs....
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>>491376386
I was unfortunate enough to get both warrior legendaries, screw the cleaver and try this dogshit instead, point is to trigger the target dummy a lot of times and people still concede to cancer zilliax/dilation station but this time it brings back a dummy and a ham
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>>491381251
mech warrior has so many tools but nobody knows which ones to use because they all suck in comparison to aggro-lite
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>>491371831
>how do I cope with this information
Wait for the big Warcraft direct later this year celebrating the anniversary of Hearthstone, WoW, Warcraft and Rumble. For Metzen to hold Cora at gunpoint and have her announce Monk for 2025
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>>491381597
I tried running all the bomb shuffles and chemical spill at first but it was just too dogshit and slow but this can actually win games, testing dummy + wreck em was the only part I found consistent and 2 part scappers was dead cards most of the time
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Blizzard please pay for the therapy of warrior players they need to learn to let go.
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>>491381251
new heights is super mid, isn't it? think i'd run 1 chemical spill and 1 of that 2 mana spell that draws two taunt minions
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>>491382136
I run botface+chemical spill+chrimson expanse for the memes
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>>491381774
>china returns to hearthstone
>fast track a pandaria expansion to excite them
>don't have monk hero designed yet
>fast track monk hero design
surely the finest hearthstone minds won't fuck this up
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>>491381597
>aggro-lite
you mean midrange
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good evening, I hate aggro-lite stone
https://www.vicioussyndicate.com/vs-data-reaper-report-302/
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>add demon hunter
>its broken as shit right down to having a cheaper and better Hero power than anyone else’s shit. Solve this problem with nerf sledgehammers and cranking up the powercreep
>add Death knight
>confuse some of the absolute brainlets with the Rooooons but otherwise seem to get an applause from the audience no matter what they make DK do because wow fans just can’t stop riding Arthas’s undead schmeat.
I would be surprised if monk isn’t complete dogshit because unlike the previous 2 classes, monk is the least popular class ever so just as the previous classes got to have nice things because they’re everyone’s favorites, Monk should just hope it doesn’t replace Priest and everyone’s favorite punching bag for having bad/annoying cards.
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>>491383493
>midrange
earthen, mining rogue, hl shaman
>aggro-lite
handbuff, insanity, rainbow
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>>491383601
>posts top 1k legend power rankings
>isn't top 1k legend
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>>491384808
this was last expansion and almost 3 months ago. reno is dead. this isn't the meta anymore. you're going to need a new excuse as to why you don't want to play
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>>491385054
>midrange is... LE DEAD?!
thanks genius
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>>491384245
>no one plays paladin unless it's broken
>no one plays priest unless it's control
>monk is a priest-paladin
class is DOA and will only be played because it will be f2p-friendly on release (and because it will be a furry hero, and the hearthstone playerbase is extremely furpilled)
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>>491384808
all midrange decks.
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>>491385749
all combo decks
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>>491385550
>handbuff isn't TRUE midrange!
>overheal isn't TRUE control!
just admit that you will never be happy, find a new game
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>>491385919
yea I'm sure handbuff is a true combo deck you fucking genius
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>>491385990
okay sissy. why dont you dilate your anus and play some more aggro-lite?
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>>491386302
your bait is weak
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t. plays handbuff and likes it
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>>491344836
>>491353000
Rogues think bouncing anything with Shadowstep or Breakdance makes them the galaxy-brained players in the world
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>>491384245
>>491385684
monk is definitely gonna have bouncing cards as a main mechanic, it's basically the only consistent effect we've seen in pandaren/monk-adjascent cards so far
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>>491386750
there's nothing wrong with playing a midrange deck
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its okay anon, its not the 1930s anymore. you can watch BBC hypno if you want to but denying yourself of your true nature will only hurt you in the long run
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>>491386825
>zeddy army wants shadowstep hall of famed
>team 5 makes shadowstep the monk hero power
celestalon could never be this based
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>>491387369
seethe harder. can't even decipher what your saying desu these words make no sense.
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they hated him because he told them the truth
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>>491387526
they make sense in the brain of someone who thinks handbuff is a combo deck. have a feeling from these posts we know what cooked his brain
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>>491387763
>begging for attrition grinder decks in the meta
what level of brain damage is this? must be close to max lmao
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>>491387905
handbuff is aggro-lite, see>>491384808
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>>491388090
handbuff is midrange.
by the way why don't you go back to plebbit if you love it so much you fucking tourist?
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>post source with quote of well respected HS data analyst
>uhm achsually im no dirty aggro sissy! handbuff is midrange! I am based
quite sad honestly
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>>491388856
no one cares no one asked.
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>>491386091
Is it not? It's dead without dealing 20+ from hand.
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>>491387474
straight up shadowstep as a hero power would be too strong but I could definitely imagine:
>heal 1
>if overheal, return to hand
this way you wouldn't be able to value trade and the hero power would still do something on a empty board
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>>491387763
Brave soldier speaking truth that they dont want to hear.
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>491388949
okay sissy
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>needs to shill his own posts because no one is listening to him
touch grass
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>>491388365
>wins by holding cards in hand for several turns until presenting one turn lethal
>not a combo deck
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>>needs to wah wah wah
>touch wah
your tears are my life essence, sissy
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>>491389962
try harder we're not there yet
good enough for leddit maybe but not here
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sissy
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>>491388029
>long term planning BAD
>green card go face GOOD
talk about brain damage
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Why do people trade anymore. Either they can clear your whole board or they can't. Value trades mean nothing.
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>>491393095
>both players with full hands
>neither player playing a card
>neither player drawing
>hero power pass
>hit fatigue
>play archivist elysiana panda
no you're right this is peak hearthstone (also when they decided to largely abandon this dogshit retard gameplay)
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>>491394203
>turn 3
>kill my opponent because you he didn't play taunts on 1 and 2
I too can cherrypick
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>>491393095
>>491394448
no need to school me, I unironically play fatigue decks on ladder
I'm fully aware that they're bad
I'm fully aware that they're zero fun to play against and make my opponent lose 30 minutes of their life that they'll never get back. In fact that's the only reason I do it, because I want them to hate this game as much as I do.
and that's also why I know they should never be allowed to leave meme territory, suggesting otherwise just makes you look ridiculous.
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>>491393095
>>491394448
oh and I also rope almost every turn just for funsies.
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>>491395843
>>491395517
what does that have to do with control warrior?
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>>491395927
dunno, maybe it will make more sense if you turn on your brain and read again?
>control warrior is an attrition grinder deck
control warrior, as the name implies, is a control deck.
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>>491379985
I crafted tentacle deck hoping for tsunami fun... they all failed (shaman warlock rogue warrior) never seen tsunami from tentacle
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>>491396120
>unkilliax lactation station
actually, it was a combo deck
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>>491396343
This is true actually. It was more like a boardlock deck.
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>>491396120
>control
>attrition
bitch please, its not 2018 anymore
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>>491396343
so why bring it up, then?
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>>491364359
>I miss Toast, he's a sell-out, yeah, but motherfucker knew how to twist a meta.
He wasn't a sellout before realizing that the game was being ruined by incompetent morons and it couldn't be a long term career choice because of that.
Can't blame the guy for pivoting to literally anything else.
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>>491396836
becuase i'm not the person you were talking to, to just a common troll
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>>491396836
>Anonymous
>>491396946
fuck you man
retards always fall for that shit and then think its me
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>>491397071
there are so many dumb things said here that i too have lost the ability to discern who is joking and who is retarded
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>>491385684
You say that like Chen as your Default monk Hero wouldn’t be cool.
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>aggro dead
>midrange dead (overheal excluded)
>control dead
>aggro-lite thriving
how did it come this far?
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>>491288670
>the hearthstone team is being restructured
B A S E D
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Card design is extremely political. The are two groups in the HS-community. Blizzards target audience and everybody else. The target audience is served. Others are just wallpaper.
There are 3 winconditions discernable regardless of expansions: a. Burn, burn,burn. b. spam-buff-go face and c. OTK. It is euphemistically called faced paced. Those wincons serve the target audience. If that crowd gets mad they nerve. All others may suffer.. and those start complaining here.

Ever wonder why a class like Priest never consistently is and was a Tier one? Yes dragon Priest is well known. Because Priest is not an target audience class. Imagine Priest to be consistently oppressive as Paladin, Mage, Hunter, Rogue.....all hell would break loose.
The problem of Hearthstone is the problem of its developers. The non-target audience community are the second class citizens in the Hearthstone realm. And they feel it. It raises much contempt and complain. The lack of balance, the lack of wincon diversity, too steep RPS are all condusive to a mindless aggressive gameplay of the target audience.
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>>491399276
uhm achshually it's mindless midrange gameplay, chud
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>Decide to finally play some Rainbow Shaman cause Zach0 keeps shilling it.
>All of a sudden, literally every single one of my opponents turned into King Tide Druids/Mages playing Tsunami on turn 6 for 5 games in a row.
>This was after giving up with BBB DK cause every single opponent was a Reno Warrior or a Rogue with Griftah or unlimited Scorpion bounces
>And that was after I gave up on Nostalgia Shaman for giving me Duskfallen Aviana 3 games in a row.

I just can't win haha.
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>>491399276
>companies should stop serving their target audience
brilliant idea, where can I sign?
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>>491398213
the only pandas i like in hearthstone have extremely large breasts or industrial-sized dumpers.
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>>491400175
buy a bundle from the shop to improve your matchmaking and rng
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going to spend the evening working on a taunt deck, but haven't decided on dr00d or warrior. i will return with my results wish me luck my friends
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>>491403678
i'll keep your seat warm at gold 10
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>>491387763
>the only deck for warrior got gutted for no reason
they print enrage support constantly but these people still insist on diseased shit filled diaper game play only
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>>491404174
There is no enrage support. Can you shut up already?
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>>491404337
It gets support literally every set for the past ten years but since it's not diaper up and pass it's ignored
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>>491407434
>4 mana do nothing
wow it's terrible
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>>491407434
nta but i don't think i'd called that enrage support. yes, when enrage was tier 1 for a full fuckin year not a single person was interested in playing the deck. but expanse supports copying bigger idiots, taunts, and/or deathrattle mechs. none of them are great right now, but will they see play when they are? not unless the babies can run 2x sanitize 2x shield slam 2x brawl 2x aftershock 2x bladestorm
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>>491408348
don't forget 2x trial by fire, 2x bellowing flames, yogg, tech cards, etc with more tech cards inside, fizzle, and ignis
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Valkyrie is still 7 mana BTfuckingway
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>>491401565
Which don’t exist in hearthstone. Only the goblins and gnomes have been allowed those sorts of things.
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>>491409239
Meanwhile Swipe 3 mana x4spelldamage tip
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>>491409239
good
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>>491408265
perfect example of modern card design. literally all it does is enable "while this is dormant" cheese
playing it as a normal card is laughably bad
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nagas fucking suck in BGs as usual, no surprise there
you're broken if you can somehow make it to endgame, but good luck surviving the first 10 fucking rounds. especially when your early trinkets are shit like "die to get spellcrafts :)"
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>queue up for casual to try my homebrew slop
>pic related
everytime
good thing i can just leave i guess
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>>491419496
I only play undead (no I will not learn another tribe)
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>me picking this
>no way this is good trinket
>lose only to broken Blood gem golem 500/500 after each death (2nigs)
Well blood golem thing sure got nerfed spamming 500 stats after each death not good
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THIS board lost to frogs
when are they nerfing that stupid shit
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>>491424461
>no poison
your fail
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>>491424936
what the fuck is poison going to do against infinite 600/600s
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>>491424979
moral support
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What was that slant eyed chink thinking
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>>491425612
He not even in top 10 busted comps...
its for easy wins in 1k mmr
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>>491425940
I'm at 400
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>>491426089
its like 2 wins ?
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>Wrong Village tranny boy
Love Pigs.... they simple... i see blood gem i play blood gem
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>this is what controltoddlers actually believe
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>>491433398
logging in to reddit to downvote this and every post in the thread, thank you for the alert
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>>491435919
>>491435919
>aggro
>analtroon
>mixologist
>fan club hidden gem without overheal mechanic
>cheese dragon (i know he literally in every deck)
>HOLY FUCKING NOVA
Holy fuck this is called put good cards and play deck....
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>>491436417
>n-n-NOOO its not a poopsock approved net deck!
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>>491435919
it's an aggro deck so cut the aman for another grub and it's similar to what I was trying to do with tourist priest. the suitcase works with pip and the bird that can repeat 1 cost spells to reload your hand.
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>>491439721
did you just say cut amanthul
are you FUCKING crazy
it is the best card this shitty class has access to
don't run it in wild because you actually have options
in standard priest cards are SHIT so PLAY THE GOOD ONE
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>>491424461
Snipe their barron with whitemane. You only lose if they are turbulent tombs.
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>have had the same play ranked games weekly for 4 weeks now
>4/10
god damn bros it might be over for me I just cant play this shit
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does that old hearthstone streamer deernadia still stream or has she moved on to onlyfans? she was so fuckin hot
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>>491442509
yes pants shitter, its an aggro deck designed to win around turn 6 and dead in hand. if you want to play diaper priest then by all means run a diaper deck and make sure to run all the things to copy your faggot titan

i just wanted to try out priest tourist
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>>491445738
bro you're like the aggro shaman players who don't put the titan in their deck. i know, conceptually, you don't want to. but the card is too good to cut so fucking run it. if you ever insinuate i am a retarded control player i will end your bloodline
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>Won with 1 HP
Quilboars OP
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>>491445694
she stopped streaming 6-7 years ago, she made enough to pay off her home then slowly stopped streaming while she finished her education to become a nurse or something like that and got married

she's one of the few og streamers that made it out safe
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>>491447189
well good for her
but also that sucks, would have enjoyed seeing her tits.
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Can I play this game with a controller?
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>>491448652
you can play it with a mouse so i don't see why not
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>>491448652
https://www.reddit.com/r/hearthstone/comments/14z8jk1/ps5_controller_for_hearthstone_on_pc_fixed/
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>>491445738
Shadow Priest, one of the most reckless aggro decks from last year, still ran Amanthul. It's simply that good. Taking it out of the deck will tank 5% winrate. It's not a control card, it's a broken card.
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>>491433398
Control players are actually insane.
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>>491318040
Pls someone tell me how to cheat.
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>start arena run
>pick zarimi
>literally zero dragons show up for picks
Thanks cora.
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this quest bug is really doing my nuts in
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>>491443292
they run the tier 6 beast that summons more beasts, dumbass
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I miss Hearthstone, it was such a great game
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>>491463328
>it was such a great game
name one meta since original release that wasn't stage 4 cancer
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>>491454726
https://x.com/Celestalon/status/182669628288452232
it's joever.
The cheat was starting the game as Jaraxxus, Eredar Lord of the Burning Legion (with the weapon and hero power)
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>>491463825
https://x.com/Celestalon/status/1826696282884522320
bad link
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>>491463940
Interesting how they can do this so quickly but cannot fucking work out the simplest shit that never broke in the past 2 decades.
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>>491465996
Relog, since the last update stuff is not updated in real time (packs, Quest progression, achievements etc.), but everything works if you relog. Small indie team.
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>>491460938
If you stop the leapfrogging, they are not making multiple stat buffs.
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>>491465996
Is there any list of all the achievements which give out packs or other rewards?
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Whatever happened to having triple blood or frost or whatever the green one was called? Did they just give up on it?
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>>491463761
In which expansion did the Cthun body part release?
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What should happen for this game to be fun again? Or at least Wild...
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>>491474384
a reset
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>>491474384
no more aggro-lite
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>>491474384
wild is already fun though
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I can't progress quests wtf?
I played 3 demon hunter games and they din't register
is this the same for everyone?
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>>491477728
are you sure it doesn't just say hunter
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>>491477728
restart HS
everyone has this bug
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>>491474384
new playerbase
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>>491481265
>Playerbase
How is playerbase fault this fucking game is a total shit and the meta is in shambles faggot?
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>>491445501
I just play treant slop in wild for this, most of the time I just face renathal decks that do nothing and die by turn 5
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I can't believe I wasted my whole NA account by crafting Reno Warrior only for it to get nerfed like 10 fucking times. Like what the fuck.
>Can't play my EU account because Mage is dead.
>Not really in love with Zarimi priest SEA account because it's more trash pile than token synergy.
It's actually so fucking over for any archetype I want to play. I would be spamming Elementals because I enjoy tribes but they way missed the mark on the feeling of synergy with that one. It feels more like a punished if you don't play more elementals than rewarded if you do play more elementals. Like If I did put in Ragnaros like I love to do because It's cool to have some sort of high-cost card as your finisher in a tribe deck. I can't do that because If I miss one turn on the elemental chain the deck becomes less than arena tier It's such a lame mechanic man. Mechs had a divergent path where you could go tall with high-cost or low cost, or you could include discover for re-fill. I feel like elementals just way missed the mark on feeling like a tribe deck.
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remember when they used to have events to cross promote new wow expansions
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>>491484151
No and besides some card backs from pre ordering there wasn’t any event.
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>>491483524
>3 accounts of this slop in 24
I'm sure there's a million games that are more fun for you.
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>>491463761
I'm not retarded enough to 'name meta'.
But the game was okay up to "One Night in Karazhan".
Then, "Mean streets of Gadgetzan" came into the picture and transformed the game into a retarded rock-paper-scissor copy.
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>>491487507
There's enough free dust on a new account to make a deck.
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>>491481905
80% of playerbase netdeck routinely. Even in fucking Casual mode.
It's not the fucking game that force them to behave that way.
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>>491489574
Wrong actually. People will take the path of least resistance.
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>>491489729
least resistance for what?
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>>491489729
'People', perhaps. I don't.
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>>491489806
If you put a 1mana 30/30 charge in the game everybody will play it. It wont matter that it's not a real game or unfun or stupid or whatever parts about it. People will play a 1mana 30/30 because It's in the game and It's the easiest way to win. The only way "This is the way to play hearthstone" can exist is with explicit rules that don't allow for a 1mana 30/30. If you put something degenerate in everything sinks to that level. So that's why It's the creators fault for netdecking and not the users they've allowed the environment to make netdecking get rewarded.
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>>491490590
you don't see me playing aggro-lite so youre wrong
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this has to be the lowest iq general on the board
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>>491483524
i agree, the shift from having elementals care about your last turn to having them care about a "streak" for a bigger payoff makes sense conceptually, but in practice it sucks fat dick. hope they ditch it going forward (they won't)
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Imagine this. Remove the random bullshit from mage, give them solid spells now that they just have two copies, and make them into a good tempo/control class
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>>491500728
No. Druid is our new mage now. Mage, Warrior, Hunter and DH are dead classes not needed in actual HS.
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>>491500728
Why don't you simply play a different class if you don't want to play what Mage has to offer? At this point random is part of Mage identity. You might like it or not, but that's it. I personally don't care because I always considered Mage a class for cowards, but something similar happened to Rogue. Tess turned it into a randumb class, so I simply stopped playing Rogue. There are half a dozen classes that are doing what you want Mage to be doing. Why are you not playing them?
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>>491502608
I don't give a shit about playing it I want to stop having to face a class that is nothing but asspulls that you can never plan against or make strategy
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>>491468004
there is no way to stop the leapfrogging, it's not like there's a "remove deathrattles" card
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>>491503831
Oh, I can agree on that, annoying ass class. I tought you were one of the usual Mage whiners.
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>>491504098
Baron doubles the stats each time someone with leapfrog deathrattle dies.
If you kill Baron, then you prevent the doubling.
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>>491505689
and how do you plan to kill baron
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>>491507685
Can you read? Whitemane and then snipe Baron. Needs abit of luck still but that is how you beat the frog comps.
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>>491507958
can YOU read? whitemane targets tier 5 or higher, they run several of those
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>>491508154
What tier do you think Baron is?
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>>491508317
do you think whitemane targets every tier 5+ on the board or some shit? i can't even comprehend your brain rot
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>>491508475
Post your fucking rank last season.
Post it because I legit think you are fucking retarded.
You saying Whitemane doesn't target all tier 5+ plus minions means it is not a counter is liking saying Leeroy/Bramblewitch doesn't counter a single huge taunted minion because they can taunt their smaller minions.
This is battlegrounds retard. There is a chance your counter fails.
Also you understand the whole comp revolves around Baron right? Once you snipe their baron it is an instant win.
This is from XQN's stream. A typical leapfrog board is going to look like what it does in the screenshot, they rarely ever go to 6 because they don't need anything from 6 so you must be in the shitter tiers if you think the average frog board runs 6*.
Without whitemane, XQN board instantly loses. With Whitemane, it is 90+% winrate.
You accuse others of Brainrot but it is clear you are just bad at BGs.
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>>491509965
>bro beating leapfrog is easy, all you need to do is sacrifice a minion spot on your board, hope your opponent is retarded enough to not be playing around it, get lucky enough to hit your intended target, and kill them in one hit before they realize you're building to counter them
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>>491510489
Whitemane countering Baron is literally one of the highest % counter in BGs. It is beyond retarded you are posting that shit when the counter to the Murloc board you posted is multiple scam cards. Imagine being this fucking stupid.
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>>491510696
against rank 1000 opponents who don't know how to build around counters maybe
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>>491510762
>who don't know how to build around counters maybe
So you figured out how BGs works now.
Congratulations retard.
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>>491510948
>this build is totally not broken if you only fight retards
stunning arguments from the mind of anon
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>>491488795
>face hunter
>zoo lock
>mages that stall for 7 consecutive turns then kill you from hand
>more face hunter
>more zoo lock
>mech
>mech
>mech
>EVERYONE GET IN HERE
>WHO AM I NONE OF YOUR BUSINESS
>WERE GONNA BE RICH
anon you're a clown, take off your nostralgia goggles.
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>>491511125
In your mind, how BGs works is
>Me unga
>Me bunga
>Me big number
>Me win
That is why you are shit at BG. Because you think it is only about stats. Because you had the biggest number and you placed #2, the solution is clearly not understanding the game but to come onto /hsg/ and complain about shit.
This is why you are bad. Because in your pea sized brain, big number = win.
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>>491511410
and your solution is what? fight retards?
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>>491511517
Seeing your argument, it is clear you have been fighting retards in BG all day long. And you are not winning either. But keep up the mindset of big numbers = win. Works wonders for you.
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>>491491226
perhaps he was right
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>>491511838
least obvious leapfrog spammer
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>>491512140
I am a leapfrog spammer because I am teaching you the concept of counters and how to beat other boards? Sure. Yeah, no wonder you won't post rank, and you won't ever git gud either since big number = win.
I bet you would cry just as hard if your board lost to a bunch of poisonous minions. Lmao.
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>>491512396
there is no counter
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>>491512554
Do you think your board is weaker than the board in this screenshot? >>491509965
But he has a 90% winrate,
But yeah, There is no counter.
That is why you are bad at BGs.
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>>491512781
a 90% winrate against retards who don't know how to play against counters is impressive in your mind?
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>>491512919
XQN is at 9k MMR and he is playing against retards? Okay, post your MMR then. This season or last.
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>>491513031
i don't care about your boyfriend
no i don't think i will, since it's making you seethe so much
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>>491513236
>A 9k rated player is playing against retards
>Meanwhile I am playing against geniuses
The cope is hilarious.
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>>491513031
going to go with 5k tbqhdesu
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>>491513402
I doubt he is 5k because previously he didn't even understand why Baron is so critical in the comp.
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Honestly a pretty exciting meta. Can't remember the last time so many classes had viable decks
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>>491513547
Mage?
DH?
Hunter?
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>>491513325
you don't even need to be a genius, you just need to be not retarded enough to run a single tier 5 minion when an obvious counter to that exists
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>>491513657
Elemental
Pirates
RIP but can't win them all
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>>491513664
So in your mind, a counter has to 100% work or it doesn't count? Is that what you are saying?
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>>491513794
Oh viable means shit but playable now?
That is the bar?
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>>491513902
it's not a counter if it's likely to fail when your opponent is competent
that's like saying running in a zigzag is a counter to someone shooting you with a gun
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>>491514256
>if it's likely to fail when your opponent is competent
If you included ONE whitemane in your comp, even your opponent ran 2 tier 5 or higher minions, that is a 50% flip + whatever innate chance you had of winning the fight without whitemane. That makes you favorable. Or are you the kind of retard that thinks because I have a 90% chance to win, I must win 100% of the time.
I am legit trying to understand your retarded approach to BGs. Big numbers is the best. A counter is not a counter if it can be countered. What other retarded takes do you have?
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>>491514298
If that is the bar, then name me one meta where multiple classes did not have viable decks.
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>>491514619
>only 2
lmao
>whatever innate chance you had of winning the fight without whitemane
so 0%
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>>491514869
Your argument is akin to saying Leeroy is not a counter to a big taunted minion because my opponent can taunt other minions. You understand how stupid you sound right?
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>>491515174
that is literally correct
a 1/5 chance to win is not a counter
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>>491514002
Elemental and pirates can get you to legend if you know how to play
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>>491515303
>1/5
What fucking retarded board were they playing? Lmao. You lost to a suboptimal frog board and you are complaining on hsg about it. This is the funniest shit ever.
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>>491515339
Then every meta had all class be viable.
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>>491515465
why are you acting like there are no 5+ cards that work perfectly fine in frog
reborn octosari, indomitable mount, reborn ghoulacabra, etc
it's not rocket science to pick these up, especially if you see the opponent trying to whitemane you
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>>491515839
>He thinks ghoulacabra is played a frog comp
Lmao. You want your frogs to die. The last thing you want is to buff your frogs. Mount is tier 6 so frog players don't use it. Frog players want to generate taunts because Baron getting sniped = GG. They want reborn shit that gives them taunt.
Also FYI, your murloc board isn't even THAT good considering it loses to fucking standard scam comp.
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This is your meta.

https://www.hsguru.com/decks/?format=2

Stop trying to make it sound like classes are "viable" you know is not true.
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>>491516397
https://www.hsguru.com/meta
He is saying because a deck is above 50% winrate, it is "viable". Hence it is better to use this page as reference. As far as I can remember, almost all metas had a deck above 50% winrate for all classes.
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>>491516397
I hate aggro-lite
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>>491516102
your frogs will die just fine if you taunt them, even better if they're reborn and you're playing greybough or some shit. plus you can run macaws to get more hopping around
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>>491516660
You want more taunts because if your taunts go down, Barron gets sniped, you lose. However, the more you taunt, the higher chance whitemane snipes the baron. So either their board has minimal taunts or their baron is easily sniped with whitemane, they can't be both at the same time. That is why frog comps are so heavily fight RNG based. But your pea brain doesn't understand that because big number = win. You didn't even build anti scam in a murloc game where poisonous is readily available. But yeah keep bitching about frogleaper cause your big number didn't win. You 2k scrub.
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I love playing my 4 mana draw 2 cards elemental while Rogue OTK's me on turn 6 so hecking viable.
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>>491516998
>beating it is easy, just get lucky and hope they get unlucky
done talking to you, can't take any more of these smooth brain takes
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>>491517486
>My big number didn't win
>Cry on hsg
Yeah. Go on keeping crying instead of trying to get good. That is why you perma stuck 2k.
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>>491474384
>What should happen for this game to be fun again? Or at least Wild...
all the devs fired and blacklisted from the industry.
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>>491519593
that seems a bit harsh
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>>491519846
>that seems a bit harsh
sorry but when you fail to create a good environment this many years in a row for a simple card game I would rather you never worked again.
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>>491519971
the game is doing well financially, though
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>>491521024
>the game is doing well financially, though
and I should care about this because?
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>>491521024
>Well financially
Really? Less players, less content creators, less attention, really a pair of fucking addicted whales is enough to sustain financially this game?
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>>491521024
Lmao. If it was, they won't be firing their engineers and having constant bugs weekly.
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>>491521024
I think the desperate polls are a sign finances are not going well anon. You dont fall that low if things are going good.
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>>491521024
the amount of impotent tears this post is generating is hillarious.
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So battlegrounds is fucked now huh?
>Get chess trinket
>Get 2 Automations
>Win

It's almost impossible to lose if you get that set-up. The lobby is basically over the moment anyone gets it. Unless they are extremely low health and you snipe them the turn they get it, it's over.

There is always a degree of BS in battlegrounds, but I don't think there has ever been anything as egregious as this. It's two minions + a trinket and you basically win the game.
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>>491523384
It's the cheapest exodia set up yeah.
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>>491521169
because not everything in the world is about you.
The point of any job is to generate money and nothing else.
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>>491523384
the lesser trinket is when the game decides if you win or not. if i don't get a good choice i just afk and get 6th or 7th
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>>491521325
when have you last payed money on this game (rhetorical question)?
so why should the devs accomodate you?
yes whales are literally 90% of income for any game with microtransactions.
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why does microbot keep saying nigger?
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We should campaign to whales to not buy things. That would be great. That practice needs to be unviable for me to have a better quality game.
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>>491524891
>yes surely convincing players to not pay for things will not make the things appear more rare and thus more desired
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>bro countering leapfrog is so easy just kill rivendare!!!
>mfw i run lich king and reborn the rivendare
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beasts and mechs are a problem in bg? WHO COULD HAVE SEEN IT COMING WOW
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>>491525096
I don't know what you said because there's a 100 layered negatives.
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>>491526035
Sorry to hear about your illiteracy man.
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>>491526101
Thanks for your condolences.
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control and midrange enjoyers getting kicked in balls while aggro-lite gets another meta top spot
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>>491529957
good
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do you think this post would be on page 9 if we had anime tiddies in the game (or as a thumbnail image)
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so, now that people have been properly competing in wild with stakes, what are the best decks?
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>>491540741
spoiler: the same decks
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>>491541719
God i wish they actually care a little about Wild... Format looks fucking unfun.
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>>491525676
no problem because rotations
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>>491523736
>because not everything in the world is about you.
>The point of any job is to generate money and nothing else
your dumb retarded ass just told me I have no reason to give a shit at all about what you just said. You realize you're fucking stupid right? Trying to be dismissive by saying "B-b-but they earn money!" can be read as : they're incompetent retards who are running the game into the ground for short term gain, but no you should hate them and hope they die of hunger."
Yes, yes I should hope they die of hunger.
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>>491544034
there is really nothing to be done at this point. you just hope that the next twist format lets you use your wild cards and isn't superfucked as far as balance. unfortunately, twist is usually superfucked as far as balance.
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what the fuck were they thinking
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>>491552969
>not 500/500 quilboars golems
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>three different beast builds in the lobby that take over a year to resolve
I HATE TRINKETS
I HATE TRINKETS
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>>491555991
same
just give me the buddy bullshit back
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>>491535703
People should post more Jaina and Valeera
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>>491555991
>not skipping fights
anon, this has been the only tolerable way to deal with beasts (and other deathrattle comps) since forever
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Bring Zapp back
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>Silver is full of meta decks
Man what the fuck happened to this game?
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>>491564365
Gotta start somewhere bruh
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>dk just hit you with better morgaine every turn and swing with discovered weapon infinite
holy cancer...
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Beast aren't even that good.
Automaton is hands down the best.
Naga is best end game. Even beating leapfrogger at end game.
Beast is like the 3-4th tribe with Quillboar depending on who you ask.
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>>491565030
Dk is both broken and retarded
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>>491565867
https://www.hsguru.com/decks/?format=2
?
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>>491566052
>https://www.hsguru.com/decks/?format=2
and ? you literally linked that retarded deck Buttons rainbow
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>>491566403
And how many decks are ahead of it?
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>>491566484
that 1-2% percent statistically nothing anon....
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>>491566625
So a 58% winrate deck is enough to be called broken and retarded? In a game where decks regularly break 60% WR? okay anon.
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>>491566996
>58%
already found answer
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>>491567164
>Hsg says deck below 50% are trash
>8% more and suddenly they are broken and retarded
What % do you think a deck is good but not broken and retarded anon?
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>>491567327
i said some cards broken chill dude... game meta fucking trash we all know it
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>>491567578
>>491565867
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>>491567625
How new ? that now my post lmao
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>>491567775
There is literally only one post with broken and DK in the same context in this thread
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>>491567625
More than one people can hate your stupid broken class
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>>491568408
Oh now it is back to class being broken instead of some cards?
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>>491568509
One anon has issues with the class, the other with some more specific cards
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>>491569882
>the other with some more specific cards
Except this moron never said anything till it was pointed out that only one anon said the class was broken and retarded.
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brothers that's enough fighting and there is only one way to settle this...in the hearth arena!
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>>491571429
and its infested by chinks.....
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>>491570027
Keep coping you DK retard
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>>491573767
The DK I play isn't even tracked on d0nkey and I still made legend. Git fucking gud.
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>>491574760
>class so broken you can make legend with anything
Thanks for proving my point
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>>491517486
>Guy uses multiple barons
>And reborn oct
>Still beat him despite not getting spellmental and completing my comp
Git gud faggot. Seriously.
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>>491576140
>no macaw
>no gold baron
>trigore and skyblazer for some reason
this isn't even a frog build, this man just threw together random cards and hoped they worked
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>>491576332
If he had only Baron, I would have won even harder since his Baron would be instant sniped. I am bring up this scenario because this retard
>>491515839
was arguing Whitemane didn't counter Frog builds because you can "build" around it by playing multiple 5*. I am showing my build because this guys "frog" build would "play around" Whitemane and still loss.
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>>491576681
I tried to "build around" a frog player earlier today. Then he ended up not actually being a frog player, it was some stupid Goldrinn-Trigore-Skyblazer shit. So that was an instant loss. Expecting people to run a specific card just to counter a broken build, when you have no idea if they're even running that build, is retard behavior.
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>>491576962
The only card I swapped into my build was whitemane. That was it. It was just 3 gold.
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>>491577031
Losing 1 minion slot is easily a death sentence in this hyper-aggressive meta where you need to be optimal.
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>>491577135
Now the goalpost has shifted from "build around" to losing one minion spot. Top rank players cut spots all the time to guarantee them wins late game, especially since the damage cap is gone. You never cut a weak minion for Leeroy? For Bramble?
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>>491577279
Whitemane doesn't guarantee shit, stupid ass. The fuck sort of shitter ranks are you in where people are running "a bunch of 1-4 costs and Rivendare"? Also why are you so desperate to dickride Blizzard's incompetent balance team?
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>>491574760
I still just play plague DK. putting plagues in peoples decks is just so satisfying, especially when it shuts down their zeph
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>>491577504
>Whitemane doesn't guarantee shit, stupid ass
Nothing is guaranteed in BG dumbass.
You are the kind of idiot that looks at 95% and thinks it means you win 100% of the time. Whitemane drastically increases your chance of winning vs frogs. That is it.
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>>491577675
And what's the percent on Blizzard giving you 1 runestone for being a good boy defending their shit balance?
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Tourists should let you play every card from that class
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>>491577785
>You need to build around frogs
>Okay, you don't but you need to cut one minion for frogs
>Okay, but it is not guaranteed
The fucking state of you. Lmao. I guessed I called out the right person. Faggot. It's so unbalanced, that my incomplete Naga build won #1 in that lobby. You want to complain about broken? End game Naga is the real broken shit. It is the only comp in game atm that scales exponentially. I spend 4 turns rolling for shellemental and still won. If I got it earlier, I bet you i won't even need whitemane to win. And I would have beaten your shit murloc comp lmao.
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>>491578410
>dodged the question
Damn, they've got you under NDA too?
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>>491578542
Damn you are really salty your shitty murloc build lost huh?
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>>491578846
Murloc? The fuck are you talking about? You some sorta schizo? I mean that'd make sense, somebody would need to be unhinged to defend frogs of all things.
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>>491578980
You see me defending frogs? If anything you are the one defending frogs when I gave you a good example of them losing.
>Here is frogs losing
>Doesn't count!
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Behold! The might of Stormwind!
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>>491579110
Saying it has counters is defending it, because it doesn't.
>gave you a good example of them losing
That's barely even a frog build. It's a Trigore build that has Rivendare and 1 frog for some reason.
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>>491579252
>Because it doesn't
Here is XQN
>>491509965 smashing an actual frog comp where baron got instant sniped.
Oh but it doesn't count because it can be countered with multiple tier 5 minions.
But my example where he has multiple tier 5 minions doesn't count now because it is not an actual frog comp?
Lmao. Fuck off.
You know what. Give me what (you) think is an actual frog comp. Go ahead.
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>>491579560
>muh streamer says so!
Fucking zoomers.
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>>491579687
>says
Did. He did so. Look at the screenshot.
>Frog is op
>Given 2 examples where it lost
>Doesn't count
Frog lives rent free in your head. Lmao.
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>>491579842
1 runestone and 2 channel points have been added to your accounts.
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It really annoys me how there seems to be this continual drip for a Handbuff Reno Deck that just is never going to make it because everything’s so bizarrely overcosted compared go paladins handbuff strategy.
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>>491579973
>Bad at game
>Gets told he is bad
>no it must be the game is imbalanced
Many such cases. Sad. Don't worry anon, anytime I smash a frog on the ladder, I'll give you a free (you) and call you a faggot. Lmao.
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>>491580106
Damn, you really thought you were good for beating some dumbass with two half-builds that don't work together. Lmfao.
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>>491580251
Your murloc build was half ass and you won't even post what a full frog build looks like. Faggot.
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>>491580462
Again, what fucking murloc build are you schizoing about? You know what, nevermind, go jerk off to your reflection some more. I don't give enough of a shit to keep talking to you.
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>>491580631
>I don't give a shit
>comes crying the moment I @ you
The next time I smash a frog and post a screenshot tagging you, you will come out of the woodwork crying. Again. Faggot.
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Is battlegrounds a little unbalanced at the moment? Yeah. Sure. Happens all the time at release. But what is unbalanced is Naga and Mechs. No one thinks beast are unbalanced. They are only really broken if you hit stealth baron. Even then you will still lose to Naga. Naga really is the issue if you ask anyone who is remotely knowledgeable about the game.
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>>491583065
hello beast player
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>>491583319
Give me a beast comp that beats Naga 7 units divine shield and all of them are 1000/1000.
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>>491469339
Anyone?
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>>491583743
it doesn't need to the naga player died on like turn 9 because nagas take forever to come online
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>>491584274
So Naga is fair because it takes forever to come online?
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>>491583845
it would take me as long to poke around google/reddit/yt as it would you. or you could just start looking in-game and get the answer.
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>>491587410
Most of the stuff ingame only shows points. Some have golden uncraftables. And a few show those points that actually matter.
But I was more on the lookout for packs and other goodies that are sometimes secrets or don't show up until its at the last stage.
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>>491587938
https://hearthstone.fandom.com/wiki/Special:RunQuery/Achievement?pfRunQueryFormName=Achievement&Card_article_achievement_table%5Bname%5D=&Card_article_achievement_table%5BsearchAdvancedName%5D=and&Card_article_achievement_table%5Bdescription%5D=&Card_article_achievement_table%5BsearchAdvanced%5D=and&Card_article_achievement_table%5Bcategory%5D%5Bis_list%5D=1&Card_article_achievement_table%5BsubCategory%5D%5Bis_list%5D=1&Card_article_achievement_table%5Bsection%5D%5Bis_list%5D=1&Card_article_achievement_table%5Bpoints%5D%5Bis_list%5D=1&Card_article_achievement_table%5BpointsNot%5D%5Bis_list%5D=1&Card_article_achievement_table%5BpointsMore%5D=&Card_article_achievement_table%5BpointsLess%5D=&Card_article_achievement_table%5BrewardTrackXp%5D%5Bis_list%5D=1&Card_article_achievement_table%5BrewardTrackXpNot%5D%5Bis_list%5D=1&Card_article_achievement_table%5BrewardTrackXpMore%5D=&Card_article_achievement_table%5BrewardTrackXpLess%5D=&Card_article_achievement_table%5BrewardListName%5D%5Bis_list%5D=1&Card_article_achievement_table%5Bdisplay%5D=Table&Card_article_achievement_table%5Bwhere%5D=categoryid%3D2+and+rewardlistid%21%3D0&Card_article_achievement_table%5BgroupBy%5D=&Card_article_achievement_table%5BorderBy%5D=&Card_article_achievement_table%5Blimit%5D=500&Card_article_achievement_table%5Boffset%5D=&wpRunQuery=&pf_free_text=
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>>491588868
uhh you get the idea. you can search the database and scroll
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>>491589012
>https://hearthstone.fandom.com/wiki/Special:RunQuery/Achievement?pfRunQueryFormName=Achievement&Card_article_achievement_table%5Bname%5D=&Card_article_achievement_table%5BsearchAdvancedName%5D=and&Card_article_achievement_table%5Bdescription%5D=&Card_article_achievement_table%5BsearchAdvanced%5D=and&Card_article_achievement_table%5Bcategory%5D%5Bis_list%5D=1&Card_article_achievement_table%5BsubCategory%5D%5Bis_list%5D=1&Card_article_achievement_table%5Bsection%5D%5Bis_list%5D=1&Card_article_achievement_table%5Bpoints%5D%5Bis_list%5D=1&Card_article_achievement_table%5BpointsNot%5D%5Bis_list%5D=1&Card_article_achievement_table%5BpointsMore%5D=&Card_article_achievement_table%5BpointsLess%5D=&Card_article_achievement_table%5BrewardTrackXp%5D%5Bis_list%5D=1&Card_article_achievement_table%5BrewardTrackXpNot%5D%5Bis_list%5D=1&Card_article_achievement_table%5BrewardTrackXpMore%5D=&Card_article_achievement_table%5BrewardTrackXpLess%5D=&Card_article_achievement_table%5BrewardListName%5D%5Bis_list%5D=1&Card_article_achievement_table%5Bdisplay%5D=Table&Card_article_achievement_table%5Bwhere%5D=categoryid%3D2+and+rewardlistid%21%3D0&Card_article_achievement_table%5BgroupBy%5D=&Card_article_achievement_table%5BorderBy%5D=&Card_article_achievement_table%5Blimit%5D=500&Card_article_achievement_table%5Boffset%5D=&wpRunQuery=&pf_free_text=
damn, thanks.
There seems to be no good rewards sadly.
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>>491589408
i think there are some packs and shit in the single player achievements but other than that it's old undustable cards or useless points
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tell me a warrior deck to play with big units
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>>491593125
reno druid
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>playing undead in BGs
>nobody else is playing it
>turn 12 and i have yet to find anub'arak or champion of the primus
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>>491584861
Yes, actually
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>>491564365
right? back in my days you wouldn't see meta decks consistently until rank 10
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I haven't watched (lol)eSports at all since s13 lpl summer playoffs
this shit is dead as fuck
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>>491599421
Wrong gen
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>aggro
>aggro-lite
>aggro-lite
>aggro-lite
>aggro-lite
>aggro-lite
>aggro
>aggro
>aggro-lite
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>>491564365
ranks aren't real
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>>491600249
what the fuck is "aggro lite"? you linked a bunch of combo decks
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>>491600354
>what the fuck is "aggro lite"?
his personal mental disorder
>>491600249
why dont you play wild for a change? it's 90% super slow renathal control decks
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>>491601214
your stats are wrong. I played 100+ wild games in the past week and literally saw zero pirate rogue, zero pirate demon hunter, and zero gnoll miracle rogue.
Are you living in a different universe than the rest of us?
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trying too hard
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>>491601451
yeah that's what I thought, reality doesn't matter to you, you choose to ignore it.
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>>491601389
nta and i have no horse in this
but yeah, this is precisely why stats sites like hsreplay, vs, and d0nkey are useless. everyone has their own personal matchmaking vortex. from the moment your account is created, every action you perform in game goes on your permanent record. when you queue for games, the computer is actively considering how long you've been playing, the highest ranks you've ever reached, your frequency of winning and losing games based on rigged variable scalars, etc etc
to put it simply, there are high mmr players in silver and there are shitter noobs playing against murloc tidehunter decks in silver. and this is true all the way through legend too
if you want the most accurate possible slice of data, you have to filter for specifically high rank legend, but once you do that, you're entering a completely different meta from the rest of ladder, so you're back to a scuffed sample size
end of the day there's no real value to these websites. they mean very close to zero. valuable information CAN be gleaned from them, but i'd guess 95-99%+ of people who use them don't know what they're doing besides going "hurr durr biggest winrate copy paste go"
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>paypiggy aggro sissy complains about winners queue
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meaningless words. you're btfo.
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Rainbow Shaman and Rainbow DK are some of the only few fun things left in the game
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>>491603391
both aggro-lite
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Kill yourself.
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I am 100% serious. rainbow shaman&dk are aggro-lite. if you think those decks aren't aggressive then I don't know what to tell you.
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>>491603740
I mean there’s aggressive cards in them but idk how you can call Razzle dazzler an aggro card when it need multiple turns, build around and a skipped turn to be effective.
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>>491604635
according to him, midrange and control are also aggro decks because they have "agressive" cards in them.
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trinkets are buggy as fuck.
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>>491604635
A. razzle is ready on 6
B. he's le finisher
C. wish upon the stars sees absolutely no play because that would be too slow
D. rainbow is aggro-lite, not razzle. put him into HL shaman for all I care
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>>491603740
They both fit squarely into the midrange archeytpe. Aggro lite is a made up term that doesn't exist.
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>2 cards that cost more than 4 mana
>>491605031
all terms are made up
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>>491605126
>Both minions and removals
>Board based wincon that requires setup
Looks midrange to me. Anyway I'm playing it slightly heavier.
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>all terms are made up
deep
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>>491605441
Wrong image lemao
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>>491605441
sorry, it's aggro-LITE
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bg needs zapp slywick
going to test if brann is locked by speeding through the tiers and how many rerolls it takes for brann to appear in the tavern naturally before turn 9
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back in my day midrange decks used to actually build up to something and not shit out some half-assed board on turn 6 with no follow up as a finisher
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>>491607065
not just brann but also baron within context of the tribes available
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soo am i missing something about BGs? i can't even make it to the first trinket before getting unbelievably bored. it's just like standard hearthstone - why the FUCK are the turns SO FUCKING LONG? it's unreal
like you're literally presented with problems that would be simple for a third grader and the programmers thought, here, you deserve 2 and a half minutes to figure this shit out
i can't take it seriously at all and if you think bgs is a good game mode i have to assume your iq is below 75
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>>491607070
you mean like midrange hunter that just shat out highmanes and... well nothing else really?
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>Aggro-lite, aggro-lite, aggro-lite
please
PLEASE STOP
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>>491607530
if you're not playing it seriously (using your firewall to skip combat) you can't just finish your turn and then do other things while combat goes, so it's a great timewaster. As a strategy game it's sorely lacking, more of a slot machine these days, used to be real hard strategy that could get you ahead but not anymore.
There's a reason anytime someone posts a BGs post about how well they're doing it gets no traction anywhere, not on the subreddit or here. BGs takes no intelligence or effort, that can be fun every once in a while but it's a really dumb game mode.
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>>491607751
>call of the wild
rat
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>>491607751
nooooo that was aggrolite somehow
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>yeah my deck runs two cards that cost more than 4 mana and is faster than fucking tempo druid but it's midrange guys!
you're not fooling anyone
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>>491608330
>midrange hunter didn't exist before old gods
impressive mental gymnastics
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>>491608776
call of the wild wasn't even meta when it came out at 9 mana lmao
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>>491608776
outdated meta where control consistently went into fatigue and aggro killed you on 7. he actually played the midgame unlike you do.
>b-but my homebrew version
is slow as fuck and sees no play
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midrange never existed
it always was aggro-lite
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you play handbuff
you are the sissy
not my words>>491384808
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Battlegrounds is more fun than standard.
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>>491610334
I don't see the words aggro-lite or midrange anywhere in this reddit post screenshot
I'm not sure why you keep bringing it up
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that's right, keep coping
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>>491601389
I been playing XL highlander paladin in wild, if that deck gets early 10 mana with nozdormu the game is over thanks to the hero cards in the deck
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Ok fuck this game Druid is so OP they dont even play MIstah Vistah anymore. Like fuck this shit why can't my class have it then.
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>>491612854
he's simply too slow
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I played every single meta deck this week and I realized the game is just highroll. every time I got my good card I won every time I didnt I lost. warrior might be bad. still beats you if your mulligan is shit. frost dk might be good, still loses every time if you never draw your razzle dazzle. its so fucking boring
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>>491615289
So what are you seeing is data and other shit matter 0? This game is just one big casino?
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>>491615969
once you figured out the deck and know the deck you fight vs, yes
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fun? not in this aggro-lite meta
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>>491619725
I'm having fun though
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>>491621648
you must be the only one.
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imagine grinding 2 hours for a level up when you could be dungeon running in Guild Wars 2
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>>491609027
nta but what are you saying, it was released at 8 mana then nerfed to 9
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>>491601389
>>491601214
stats aren't wrong, your mmr is just so cooked that you don't play against the good decks. i should know, i don't play against those decks either. i face nothing but renathal slop and the occasional bot, whether it's on the climb or while in dumpster legend
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>>491626830
you replied to bait
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>>491608289
>used to be real hard strategy that could get you ahead but not anymore
and yet the same names top the leaderboard every season. crazy how the same players seem to get lucky month after month.
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>>491627147
not the first time and won't be the last
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>>491626830
lmao I'm in legend you fucking retard, when do I start seeing the good decks then?
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>>491632403
n-n-no you're not! thats not possible
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>noooo you don't understand these decks are literally everywhere literally everyone is playing them according to this data that I scraped off some AI generated page
>but you will never see anyone actually playing them because... well just don't think too hard about it just trust me bro its your MMR or something
do you have any idea how dumb you sound
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>>491628280
you were right
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man this game just fucking sucks
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keep trying to make mage tourist work today in casual and getting handbuff netdeck paladins pretty fun
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>>491634335
Even Gwent a minigame in a game not about cards is better than this steaming pile of shit
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>>491634476
one wonders why even have 9 classes. just print druid and paladin cards consistently and the occasional diaper warrior card that gets gutted in a few weeks
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>>491633115
No no, you got it all wrong.
What I'm saying is the same devs who made the game in its current state are somehow capable of conjuring this galaxybrained matchmaking algorithm.
And to what end?
We can only speculate. My guess is world domination.
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>>491635308
Absolutely based
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>>491634476
Er... sweaty, casual is for tryharding with netdecks.
If you want to waste someone's time with your experimental deck, you should play with someone from your friendlist.

(believe it or not, but some retard once told that without a trace of irony)
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>>491636316
your autism probably misunderstood that and he was providing a healthy alternative for tryhard filled casual
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>>491635587
It's a live experiment.
That kind of algo can be reused in every other Activision's game.
So it can make sense from an exec's PoV to allocate more ressources to it than to the actual game.
Blizzard/Activision has already patented weird engagement-optimization concept in the past. It's not that much of a stretch for them.
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>>491637075
wonder if the microsoft buy out wasnt just a way to get their greasy fingers on that exact algorithm
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>>491638993
Probably not. Microsoft just buy things for the hell of it. Just look at what they did with Minecraft : absolutely nothing.
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>>491632403
congrats on your first time in legend you fuckin knob. climb out of the dumpster and you'll see good decks. if you're not seeing those decks constantly it's because YOU ARE DOGSHIT
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>King kRush
>doesn't have rush
what did blizzard mean by this?
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>>491634476
Kind of weird heartshtone has 11 classes and magic has 5.
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this renethal odd warrior is roping turn 1
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>lazy saturday afternoon
>end of month
>time to climb from bronze with wild mage secretslop
time to get comfy my brothers
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>>491642714
>Comfy
>Hearthstone
I think we are not playing the same game.
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>>491640728
>trust me bro those decks exist they're not just in my head you MUST LOOK HARDER
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What the fuck are elementals supposed to do in BGs right now? My scaling feels godawful compared to everything else, by turn 10 I still haven't really come online and I'm on the brink of death.
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>>491643996
there are always only 2 or 3 good tribes every season. its not elementals this time
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>>491643996
either get fiery slimebloods or get the living azerite trinket if not concede
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>>491643996
Dragon and Elementals are fucking shit tier this patch. Just use them and then pivot to better comps.
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I made it started playing last month
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>>491645662
i just got both of them, and a hero who's good at avoiding damage in the early game, and still lost turn 11
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>>491650221
fucking hell is is UGLY
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>>491650426
well done anon horrible meta lately
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>>491650426
What was your poison of choice to climb?
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>>491651812
Tempo druid, handbuff and Odyn warrior are my 3 decks
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How do I turn off the new politically correct silver hand recruits? I just want the original one
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>>491661850
i just want the option to make them all look the same for the sake of clarity. like i don't care that other models exist, just let me pick the one i like and not have 5 different tokens. i have a small brain, don't make me hover over things to make sure they're a silver hand
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>>491661850
>only resurrects 1 of my 3 recruits
NOT SO DIVERSE NOW HUH
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>>491650221
russian shit from 2000 looks better (this game was kino at that time)
https://store.steampowered.com/app/1790630/_/?l=russian
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>>491641037
Actually have(but only 200iq players can use it) also he crush your face
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>>491210452
That's not Hearthstone
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>sunwalker hero skin.
>spawns Silverhand
I mean it’s accurate to WoW because WoW devs’s dedication to having all things Paladin revolve around almost exclusively Humans…

God I hate legion lore and the crap it snowballed into.
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>>491628134
Because these people play for like 9 + hours a day. This argument is flawed and it keeps getting used. If you play that much you are bound to hit good streaks to climb especially if you are somewhat competent at piloting stuff.
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Why are pirates in BGs simply not allowed to be viable? Did a pirate spit in someone's cereal at Blizzard? What the fuck is that garbage new tier 6 pirate even supposed to be for?
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>>491688276
They still have cleave
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>>491690225
And no decent way to scale it.
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>>491690376
Blood gems lol....
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>>491688276
>bad pirate hero bad pirate comp
>good pirate hero good pirate comp
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>>491688276
Battlegrounds just got powercreeped way past eliza. +60/+60 or whatever is peanuts now.
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>>491683297
>averaging a placement of 2.x
anon, are you trolling? this isn't "hitting a good streak." this is identifying winning lines (or non-losing lines) on an extremely consistent basis.
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>>491688276
the broken part of pirates was going infinite gold. they have periodically moved the (effectively) infinite state to other tribes or neutrals since then. when you're an econ tribe and there is better econ in the game, or crazy scaling gets online before your econ matters, you're not going to have a great time.
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>>491683297
Idiots like this have no idea how MMR works. That is the equivalent of saying Magnus Carlsen is not good at chess, all he does is spam chess game till he hits a good streaks to climb.
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How tf did pain lock and Pally dodge nerfs
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>>491703963
For real though yeah. I'll say it. Holy shit the only people competing in the circles are obviously going to climb in a system that rewards playtime. Like fuck top 100 is also top 100 playtime.
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>>491704432
>The best players play the most
Holy shit. Another new fucking discovery.
Here is another shocking discovery. The top 100 chess players probably also have the top 100 playtime in chess.
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>>491704749
Just wait till you find out how many competition qualifiers end with one person showing up and auto winning. Fuck all about skill.
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>>491704951
Does that happen in the top 100 chess players?
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>>491705149
Yeah It's why they only play in tournaments against high elo players to guard their mmr drop when they lose.(Because they are shit)
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>>491705996
Most tournaments have an ELO minimum you fucking moron. What other fantastic retarded takes you have?
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>>491706212
That's what I said you fucking idiot. Take the L and stop embarrassing yourself.
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>>491706898
>Take the L and stop embarrassing yourself.
Outstanding statement coming from a moron that thinks there is no skill. Only a good streak is needed and comes up with fantastic observation that good players play alot.
Oh I get it now, you think you are good. But you don't have the MMR to back it up. Your excuse is you don't have enough time.
I wasn't talking about BG when I made the last point
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bullshit victory, or the MOST bullshit victory?

i didn't change my board for 3 turns. was just fishing for kangors and rivendares for triples
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>>491714098
Mechs are the best tribe now that they removed shellemental.
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Minions and comps basically don't matter. Trinkets are the only thing that matters. Get fucked on your lesser trinket choice and you might as well just concede on the spot. This is the worst state BGs ever been in. Might as well just flip a coin for the same experience.
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just played a BGs duo where me and my partner ended up stacking different pirate playstyles, im going the classic with the guys that give you gold and the +1/+1 add to your hand and the lvl 6 one just trying to stack stats and we're slowly losing until I finally see my partner has assembled the triple deathrattle minion, the pirate deathrattle attack +4 attack, and then several of the guys that summon a pirate to immediately attack aswell as the high level one that summons 3 of those and then puts a taunt on some of those, from there on his turn he absolutely shreds the enemies where he has a seemingly infinite respawn of these immediate attack pirates that are 56/1s over and over, we go from likely third place to legit getting first, at that point I tried to see if I could find his name to add him and suck his dick but I couldn't find his name on the recent players unfortunately, that combo was a fucking legend though
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Jia, you will answer for your crimes
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>>491719620
trinkets are such a good idea BUT as always they didnt balance them. its getting so fucking tiresome
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>hang out in a lot of twitch streams
>tons of pros loathe the state of the game
>jalex of all people is the guy that loves what rogue has become while most everyone else wants mining rogue back
absolute bizare state this game is in atm
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>>491714098
what do you mean? this card is balanced
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I swear to the old god. Enjoying BG is the symptom of some mental illness.
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>>491703963
What a fucking retarded response. I lost brain cells reading this shit. First of all comparing Hearthstone to Chess has to be one of the most retarded shit I have ever had the displeasure of reading on here. Second yes doing a lot of something for a long time lets you get good. Its called practice. Your feeble mind just got blown by me explaining it to you. So yes if you play Hearthstone everyday for 9 hours you can also get high rank because you will learn enough about other decks and how to play against them and how to maneuver the meta. So yes you fucking addled brain mongoloid if you play Chess for 9 hours every day you might just become amazing and yes. Chess pros probably play ALOT every day to practice and keep improving. Mind fucking blow.
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sometimes I wish I was braindamaged to the point that I find this funny/relatable
how the fuck does this have almost 500 ups
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>>491729686
>how the fuck does this have almost 500 ups
it's reddit what do you expect
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>>491727972
>misread post
>get mad
>type wall of text explaining something everyone knows
many such cases
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>>491729686
>>491729990
i don't know if it just some personal bias, but over the past several months I have noticed a lot more posts that don't deserve the attention they get among the top upvoted there - shitty memes, "1st time legend", super obscure glitches, "look what i got from packs", "which do I pick in arena", etc. etc.
it almost feels like i've sorted the posts from worst to be best.
What I mean is that even the subreddit feels dead and only the most casual and most hardcore players are sticking with the game, while every other player left this pile of shit long ago and the posts we see there would normally be downvoted to oblivion.

and before you (You) me, i'm not saying that the subreddit was a good community, but it is a decent insight into the average player's mindset and outlook of the game.
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>>491727972
nta but your reading comprehension is very low, at no point did anon compare slopstone to chess. talk about losing brain cells
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>>491730632
this, the sub is probably so dead it's just driveby non-players upvoting memes they got on their frontpage
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I like how quickly BG games are over now
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>>491732331
If shellemental wasn't removed, Naga beats Mechs.
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>>491732331
I leave every standard game once I get highrolled and every bg game if I took 20 damage before my first trinket. its great the game balance is so godawful so I dont even feel guilty for my shit mmr anymore
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>>491732835
Don't forget leaving the game when you only get offered shit trinkets.
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>>491729686
>sometimes I wish I was braindamaged
I'm pretty sure you are, fucking plebbitor.
gtfo
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>>491732921
>plebbitor
what kind of sissy vocabulary is this? have you had your daily dose of aggro-lite?
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>>491733647
wow, this would have hurt my feelings if it didn't come from a plebbitor
literally kys to do the world a favor.
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>>491733647
handbuff is aggro-lite
rainbow is aggro-lite
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tier two
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>>491737530
dont worry making it cost more 2 gold will fix it
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>dk plays 10 mana worth of stuff on turn 3
>has button on 4 to refill the hand
WOW SO MUCH SKILL I LOVE HS ITS JUST THE BETTER PLAYERS THAT WIN OH FUCK YEAH BABY PUMP THAT AGENCY IN MY VEINS
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wild or standard?
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>>491739480
what deck
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>>491741105
frost dk its the only deck besides druid on the ladder right now have you been asleep?
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>>491741256
>have you been asleep
yes just returned after 2 years whats the deck called? razzle dazzle dk?
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>>491741389
https://hearthstone-decks.net/ffu-death-knight-207-legend-risewashere_hs-score-26-11/
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>>491739480
How did they get access to two 2mana 4/4's in the same cycle tough. That's fucking insane.
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>play wishing well rogue bro it's fun bro I swear
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>>491742761
>BRO IT'S FUN I SWEAR I PROMISE IT'S SO MUCH FUN YOU'RE GOING TO LOVE IT BRO JUST TRY IT
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>>491743582
based pala chads keeping the dishonest cheaters where they belong
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>>491743921
>handbuff
>based
Anon... I...
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decade+ hs god here reporting in to urge you all to quit and play master duel instead
there's a learning curve, but it's worth it. if nothing else the play patterns are totally novel from this fucking disgusting slop of a game
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Yeah not playing a turn 1 game lmfao. Just flip a coin at that point.
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>>491744946
I don't like it because it's too boring let someone do solitaire shit on turn one.

Yugioh needs mana to make games just a bit slower at least
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>>491744946
>master duel
kek, no thanks
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>>491745147
one day you will realize they're all coinflip simulators and it's just a matter of how good the devs are at tricking you into thinking otherwise and extending the average play session
ygo is kinda based for being so unabashedly overpowered with everything
but anyway i'm not even trying to deny that i'm bitter and jaded about hs while in a honeymoon phase with other games lol. all i know for sure is hs is a cooked, dusty-ass game
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>>491743582
just draw better bro
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>>491746160
do you actually enjoy playing master duel tho? I played irl when the powercreep with xyz/rescue rabbit & inzektors was on the rise but it was still enjoyable, now it just seems like a flow chart game
>are you going first
>do you have your pop off engine(s) in your starting hand
>does your opponent have handtraps to stop your bullshit
i won't say hearthslop is more fun by any means but its far more interactive for me.
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Are you actually supposed to win with the free decks the game gives you? Because it feels like I have no chance against the people I'm playing.
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>>491747834
no pay 500 bucks or get lost
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>>491747834
starter decks are meme decks that showcase their new tier 5 packages. you're much better off switching to aggro-lite
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>>491747990
>>491748091
Which one has the best cards to keep at the end of the 5 days?
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>>491748164
uninstall wizard
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>>491747834
LOL
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>>491748164
they rotate those decks and aren't visible to seasoned players. you have to show us what is being offered
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>>491748164
DK or Warlock imo, both have a ton of cards used in tier 1 decks, they are also both decent enough to get you to diamond 5 or so before crafting a real deck
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>>491748164
You want to be building towards a playable meta deck so your options are.
1.Whichever contains the highest amount of dust. (So you can craft other playable cards)
2.Whichever contains the most amount of usable cards.(Core legendaries)
One usable legendary card is worth 1600 dust and 1 unusable legendary is worth 400 dust. So unless none of the options give you cards that you want you should go for the deck that helps build towards your meta deck the most.
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>>491749768
What class even beats warlock right now both fatigue and life loss they all feel like automatic losses to all my decks
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>>491750531
hyper aggro
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>>491750531
them not drawing popgar. every single good deck right now loses to itself
its a very sad state of the game but its the truth.
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>>491749768
There isn't a Warlock deck, at least not for me.
>>491750358
The Paladin and Priest decks both have one Titan and two other legendaries I don't have. I can't imagine playing Priest though, so I guess I'm picking Paladin.
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they disabled spell school quests from working in mercs...

why? there is now 0% reason to ever play mercs. atleast i could use it to quickly finish weird spell school quests. why do they keep making everything more difficult...
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>>491752610
remember when you could get the class quests done in battlegrounds? those were the days my friends, we thought they'd never end
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fake fan
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>>491751050
No nerf to them but they ruined my elemental mage it's ridiculous
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>roll people with priest in casual
>they add me to argue
this happens every 3rd game I play in this gamemode, is this normal?
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>>491752610
They didn't. The quest counters are just bugged. Relog
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>>491755524
>beat someone
>they friend request me
>add them
>tells me i'm a faggot
>unfriends me before i can respond
this is why i never add people
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To anyone who plays the game after hitting legend(even logs in desu).
Why?
What do you play for exactly?
I can understand weekly quests, but what else?
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>>491757086
for top 100 baby
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>>491757086
It's fun and fast i usually just open the game to play one game and dip it's like the card game quivalent of having a snack in the middle of the day
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>>491756523
the strat is to prepare a message and wait a while before accepting so when you accept you can paste your message and remove them before they can react
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>>491757086
I don't even play ladder after reaching D5 (except to play meme decks to complete quests and tank my mmr for easier climb next month)
the extra pack isn't worth it
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>>491757086
Some decks are fun to play
Some want to grind for achievements stress free
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>>491757086
i only play in standard legend if it's a deck i love (which is almost never). but sometimes just want to turn brain off and play cards, so i usually switch to wild and fuck about there and play old shit for nostalgia
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>>491757086
>raid logging in a children's card game
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>>491757086
I play meme decks, weird homebrew (both wild), and BGs. I will never understand comp tards, I play games for fun and the only incentive for me to compete is a sufficient enough reward (cardback)
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>>491757086
once I hit legend I stop playing standard outside quests and have fun in BGs instead
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>>491757086
I'm in too deep to stop.
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>>491759665
...do you buy every dogshit skin they release?
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>>491760941
Yes I've bought 100% of all cosmetics to have ever hit the shop since launch. I'm only missing the 200 rewards track skins, Sai, and 1 event skin that my dumb ass slept on.
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>>491761404
that's frightening, and i say that as someone with a 100% collection
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>>491761605
I also have every signature. I just spent ~$1k on packs each xpac. I started just rarity whoring all my decks earlier this year when I noticed 200k+ dust was enough to do so.

It's really not a lot to spend a few thousand a year on one of your most played games desu. Only game I might have spent more on is PoE (and tbf they deserve it way more than Blizz).
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>druid play nothing but double doomkin into yogg
>wins because he has 13 mana and you have 4
I literally just want this entire class deleted from the game forever
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It is crazy how fast they nerfed Naga but Mechs are untouched.
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>>491765082
why did naga even need a nerf? I've only played like 4 games of bg this week.
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>>491765389
Shellemental with Zesty especially with some trinkets had exponential scaling.
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>>491765963
ah, I see. Like those "when you play a spell on a minion give it +x/+x" trinkets. I thought they took out shellemental because of elementals.
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>>491757086
The only reason I manage to get to legend every month is because I don't tilt anymore, and I don't tilt because I choose to play a deck that's fun to play, so I don't feel like my time was wasted when I lose.

The moment I can't find a fun deck to play, I will uninstall without a second thought.
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Can't I just play a off meta Chump deck without getting utterly raped in a ditch naked and humiliated... I can't believe this fucking Reno Warrior is back from prenerf.
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>>491766878
Nope. Zesty was beyond busted because there are 2 trinkets that synergized well with it. The golden one which effectively made all your Zesty golden since it gave you a refund on the golden spellcraft. And the trinket that made your Zesty basically a golden one where it gave you 2 spellcraft back. By end game with crooner, you effectively could give minions in the tavern +400/+400 and then combined with Shellemental meant it scaled exponentially per turn.
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Reminder that Sindorai soft counters Automatron. But you will only get them once, they will look to untaunt them or multiple taunt targets once you pull a Sindorai on them.
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great meta
really tickles your prostate
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>>491770336
But DK is the problem anon
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>>491757086
I like seeing number go up
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>>491757086
If I see someone below legends with a deck that isn't a deck I hate I give them the win to help them make legends too
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>>491770531
aggro-lite in general is the problem
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Reminder that mechs are balanced
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>>491770336
remove duplicates smartass
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>>491743582
Riggin only exist in your mind they said....Open your eyes sheeps....
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>>491743582
I literally play this deck only to fuck you rogue bullshitter and the mage that just asspull everything
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>>491772814
there is no option to remove duplicates. are you talking about the meta tab? if you know about it why not post it yourself instead of whining like a bitch?
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>>491771827
>generating more value than your opponent is good

wow what an insight
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most balanced setup

yes it works exactly like you think it would
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>>491774250
im talking about simple tool - msPaint
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>>491775909
This mech still loses to this mech
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aggro players are whiny redditors? you don't say
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>>491776827
in the last round my dudes ended up being about 400 attack each. i dunno how it would end up with all the reborns. though i did have to lose one total bot because my opponent was playing full divine shields
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>>491777783
Auto mech is good cause it is cheap to build and extremely strong. That being said, there are stronger end game builds.
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standard is literally unplayable in shit tier ranks. every game is a different deck. nobody in the world has ever seen a wheel warlock or reno shaman but if I play something that they beat I see 3 of them in a row. just fuck this game forever. if you dont get 11 star bonus and spend the month in 1k you might aswell not even bother
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Very fair
Very balanced
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Nothing to see here, average everyday turn 10 board. Just uhh run Whitemane and you have a 1/4 chance of not autolosing.
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>>491779327
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>>491780753
your Rivendare look different today....
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>>491781058
Crazy what a little makeup can do.
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>After a friendly minion loses divine shield, give it divine shield
Who fucking thought that unkillable minions that are immune to anything but Leroy's "murder-suicide" ability was a good idea?

>>491779327
Oh, hey. I was on the recieving end of that bullshit yesterday. The nigger went from minions with 200-200 stats to 1k in like 2 or 3 turns.
So much fun!
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BG enjoyers keep this general alive
show some respect
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>>491781909
because its only non dead mode in whole game and have fixes and updates like every week also tribe rotations... you can whine about druid(mech) meta in every game(lobby)
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>>491743582
It's okay bros, I'm starting to have fun
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>>491761758
spending thousands on games isn't normal, no
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>priest is the only skilled viable class
how did it get to this?
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>>491781909
I... kneel
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>>491781909
Not that long ago BG posts were outright ignored or got 1 reply
Now either constructed is even more dead or there are a couple anons enthusiastically replying to each other
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>>491747231
honestly i'm very entertained so far just trying to build my collection up to a point where i have a real deck, so i'm doing a lot of pve and shitter pvp fights and cracking packs
and i think hearthstone is fun during the same period desu. i expect master duel to feel pozzed as soon as i'm actually on a competitive level
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so how about that new thread, boss?
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>>491807357
i think this is the final thread. it's been real, hearthstoners
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>>491807839
Yeah, real SHIT.
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>>491781909
Wtf even is BG I see the screenshot I can't understand shit
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I wish that board with the keyboard that plays sound had a key that plays Guldan's scream when he loses
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>last thread in the catalog
it's been a fun ride, lads
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>>491815924
It's okay, there is no need to lie, you can be honest with us.
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Will someone help stop the cement?!



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