Kill all swiggers editionPrevious: >>491225412>WHAT IS HELLDIVERS 2?HELLDIVERS 2 is a 2024 co-op, squid-based, PvE 3rd person shooter for PC and PS5 where players fight against hordes of alien insects and robots to Spread Democracy. Players wage war on a number of contested planets, each with a different environment, completing as many objectives as possible within a procedurally generated area while constrained by a time limit. With enough successful operations a planet can be completely liberated, and the player base must cooperate to try to liberate the entire galaxy by focusing and combining their efforts as much as possible.https://store.steampowered.com/app/553850/HELLDIVERS_2/https://www.playstation.com/en-us/games/helldivers-2/>WHAT ABOUT THE FIRST HELLDIVERS GAME?Released in 2015 for PC, PS3/4 and PS Vita, the original HELLDIVERS is the origin of the setting and basic gameplay formula of HELLDIVERS 2. The major difference is that HELLDIVERS is a top-down shooter, its mechanics being based primarily on Arrowhead's previous game Magicka.https://store.steampowered.com/app/394510/HELLDIVERS_Dive_Harder_Edition/https://www.playstation.com/en-us/games/helldivers/>INFORMATION RESOURCEShttps://helldivers.wiki.gg/wiki/Helldivers_Wikihttps://helldiverstrainingmanual.com/https://helldiverscompanion.com/https://helldivers.io/https://invadersfromplanet.space/helldivers-2/>NEWSAugust 6: Escalation of Freedom Update https://store.steampowered.com/news/app/553850/view/4339865428695343823August 13: 1.001.003 Patch https://store.steampowered.com/news/app/553850/view/4339866697735881047August 13: A message from the devs https://store.steampowered.com/news/app/553850/view/4339866697736692015>CURRENT WARBONDAugust 8: Freedom's Lame: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LXngA0CO33c
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Gas all swiggers
Why can't AH use the bazillion $ they have to hire back the old developers so they can unfuck everything wrong with the game?
Remember when Arrowbad were asked why we're not getting hellbombs to blow up detectors in bot fortresses and they outright said they intended those detectors to be a gear check?
SHEEEIT
>>491345691>gunships seed>they won't leave you alone unless you kill them>can only be killed by certain weapons
>runs into thread
what kind of gigaclown do you have to be to claim that this game has no meta when it's easy to come up with a build that cannot damage buildings or heavy enemies at all>>491346082very realistic
>>491345429>seeing my oc get posted
>>491346335I like all your doodles, very cute
>>491345691Do redditors like you not play the game?Fortresses have a 100% chance of having a detector tower.Not only can detector towers be countered by simply avoiding being sighted, they can be destroyed by stratagems.It also isn't mandatory to destroy it to clear the base.
>>491346462helo saar pls be of fix on flame weapon
>>491346462>Fortresses have a 100% chance of having a detector tower.it's not a hundredsome have them, some do not
>>491346605Haven't seen one without yet that wasn't destroyed by me previously, and I've destroyed hundreds.It also doesn't make sense to complain about them, they have so much counterplay.Complain about actual issues instead of this random bait for retards.Why are we still getting launched into space by >impliers?
>>491346462Really fun that its now mandatory to take certain stratagems. Thats just super bro.
>>491346462does your double digit iq brain retain enough function to realize that potentially indestructible obstacles are bad for the sandbox and diminish player choice, or are you too demented to grasp the idea? we already have to minmax enough to make d10 less than an exercise in tedium and you accept even more on top? cuckold.
>waah there's detectors around so you have to bring the thing you literally always bring to bots
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=79DijItQXMMJust gonna leave this here
>>491346982You have to be 18+ years old to post here
>>491346826>I find d10 hard and this rustles my jimmies because... IT'S JUST TOO HARD OKAY?!>projects IQYou should stop your HRT, it makes you uppity.The only actual logical argument is:>they'll nerf things that are good against detector towers because they're constantly pickedBut so far, there's literally no reason to complain about it, because it doesn't matter and they are right in expecting that you know how to play the game if you decide to dive at D10.
>>491346963that's still not the point retardyes I will have the appropriate stratagem 99 out of 100 times but I shouldn't even have to suffer the 100th time, it's a bad design choice that is obviously rooted in power creep paranoia of people trivializing fortresses with hellbombs. so what? it wouldn't make a fucking difference. of course the other possible reason is that they're simply too incompetent to enable the helbomb for something that's not an objective.
>>491346460I like drawing cute/funny things. I got another idea i hope i can make later today :)
>clearing a base under constant bot drops to call a hellbomb = noskill>dropping a walking barrage = skill
>>491347306Please, remind us how the armor system works, and if every weapon can kill a Bile Titan, Gunship, Strider Fabricator, etc.Oh wait, you are retarded.
>>491347149I pass d10 without deaths and have destroyed an absurd amount of detectors with ez stratagems. It's not the point. Even if you have the appropriate loadout, coming across an enemy or building that only certain players can eliminate feels like ass. Maybe I want to save that OPS or 500kg for something that is more of an immediate threat. Maybe they're both on cooldown and standing around to wait isn't my idea of a pastime. Maybe I wanted to bring one more blue/green stratagem instead of OPS but since the mandatory detector soft-cucked me out of my choice I get to have less fun. A thousand reasons why you shouldn't want things to be this way.
>>491345309kill essex
ruh roh
using stratagems on "destroy" objectives is a crutch and should be removed.you WILL hack the broadcast toweryou WILL hellbomb the detector toweryou WILL hellbomb the research lab And you WILL have fun doing it.>>491347982>>491345309sex sucks!
>>491347904I get where you're coming from, but I also think it's okay to have gear checks on side objectives on the highest difficulty.Especially when what's probably the single best strat in the game right now passes that check.
>>491348180What if I just shoot the broadcast from 80m away with a grenade pistol? That's not a stratagem.
>>491347904Doesn't matter.I don't think you understand how the game is designed.They don't want you to kill BTs with every weapon, same applies to Gunships, etc. and no, they won't provide you with free stuff to kill everything all the time.They don't want you to destroy certain obstacles with every loadout, they want you to approach the obstacle in a diffent way (run away, hide behind structures, etc.)>But I should be able to do everything or else my egocentrism won't be fullfilled and I'll get a narcissistic scarIt doesn't matter if you complain, they haven't changed their philosophy since the game released, if anything it just shows that you failed to understand the basic mechanics of the game.>but videogames should appeal to my feelings and my desire for power fantasiesClearly not a convincing argument for AH, play another game and move on instead of crying like a fat fucking retard from reddit.
>>491348180hellbombs are stratagems, clearly objectives should just be indestructible
>>491348192Gear checks are alright with me if they don't go overboard. I think that's the case here. There's no reason why the fortress detector shouldn't come with hellbomb calldowns. At least I don't see any. >>491348516Your arguments are invalid. Arrowhead are the last people that should have a say about how Helldivers 2 should function. Video games should appeal to me, not some fat faggot that wasn't good enough to work as a genuine software engineer.
>>491348765I dont think the fort detector should come with a hellbomb because it would let you cheese the base with hellbombs, but they should just have a terminal there to shut it off.
>>491348765>There's no reason why the fortress detector shouldn't come with hellbomb calldowns. At least I don't see any.I'll explain it to you>call in hellbomb>the highest damage stratagem in the game, that also completely ignores elevation and terrain>jump pack behind one of the many unproctected walls>activate it from behind a wall>destroy half the base without interacting with it>repeat>eventually nothing is left because you were given an infinite supply of hellbombs to put in key places that basically completely trivialize the experienceHaving infinite supplies of hellbombs is overpowered. If they want to balance it properly, they should just give you a free proximity OPS whenever you are 1m in range, and call it a day.They would teach the players that OPS can destroy detector towers, wouldn't waste the player's resources and give you the ability to destroy an obstable without giving you OP cheesing tech.
Still mad they made the Spore Spewers more difficult to kill and never gave the ability to drop hellbombs on it.
>>491349769>the objective that gets destroyed by a single hellpod>hellbomb
>>491349193I can cheese the base in about ten seconds using a walking barrage and a commando.>>491349336Helldivers 2 is a very simple and casual game, easy by its very structure, the only challenge is completing a mission without crashing to desktop, so "this and that will be trivialized" is an invalid mode of arguing.>baaaaaaawwwwww but then fortresses will be easyJust means arrowdead have to actually sit down their asses, keep developing the game, and add higher difficulties. They're only whinging about power creep all the time because they want to be lazy.
ELIMINATEDKilled by Impact
>>491349769>throw three impacts at itdamn, that was a lot of work
>>491350071Disingenous arguing.Taking away the player's resources is a valid and simple way to make the game more challenging.Keeping an obstacle in the map that will call in more enemies if not destroyed is a fun way to punish the player for being lazy.I want more enemies to fight, because I think the game doesn't have enough and is too easy.If you think the opposite you are disingenous to the bone.
>I can do this in 10 seconds>no video evidence of anon doing it solo 10 times in a row in a short 100 seconds videolol
Do people really go to the base of the detector tower instead of throwing whatever bullshit barrage from outside the fortress?
>>491349336Sounds like a lot of work for not bringing walking barrage. Almost like being able to do that would be a huge waste of time.Hellbombs suck.
Never going to happen but it would be kino if we have to go inside the fortress underground and clear enemies out of fucking hallways and shit and then hack some computer to self destruct the fortress
>>491350071>i can cheese the gfortress by using 2 stratagemsAnon...
Do Eagle 110 Rocket Pods take out watch towers?
>>491350749The first time someone sees the fortress and gets domed by the laser cannon, they decide to bring a barrage next time. It's common sense.
Recent reviews are down to 42% positiveWe're so close to mostly negative...
>>491351010If you mean detector towers, no.If you mean the towers with cannons, 70% of the time.
me after soloing a bot fortress with one OPS and my grenade pistol>this could use some improvementtroons>JUST TURN DOWN THE DIFFICULTY THEN?!??? E L E M A O GAME A LITTLE TOO HARD FOR BUBBA? JUST PRESS Q A BUNCH STOP WHINING GAME IS FINE INCEL
>>491351010Eagle rocket pods can kill a devastator or a fellow helldiver probably. likely 2 to 3 to take out a cannon tower, 1 if you win the lottery. Cannot kill science outposts or detector towers. 50% chance to kill a tank.
>>491346312the best is when it gets you killed
>>491351527fucking kek
>>491349950>>491350385Keep slurping that cock.
>completely destroys most bot enemies >barely see anyone run itWhy?
>>491351646because pubs are retarded?hdg lobbies have plenty of those there's like an average of two every mission
>>491351646can get nuked by barrager piss rockets
alright let me get this straight>I can solo d10s without dying, game is so easy but I won't post proof of that>but this one thing that doesn't affect me because I am so good btw annoys ME>therefore I demand that the game is changed right now just because I want it to>and I will type like a passive aggressive redditor with no counter arguments if you dare disagreewhere the fuck do these narcissistic niggers come from
>>491351236>>491351384Damn. I really liked 110 rocket pods for tanks and cannon towers. Guess I'll have to take the OPS then.
>>491351646>he doesnt join /hdg/lobbies
>>491351646enjoy getting one-shot by rockets which 90% of bots spam
>>491351837friendo, you agree with Arrowhead's buttfuck retarded decisions, who are you calling a narcissist
>>491351837anon, actual competent players are often very humble, only LARPing mega shitters enjoy making shit up and sucking their own cocks like that
>>491352060? You can tank a pretty solid amount of rocket barrages, its cannons and the new rockets that can 1 hit it.
I'd understand the hellbomb concerns if fortresses were this gnarly piece of game design which expands the challenge in meaningful ways but it's just an elongated heavy base with tank turrets and a detector superglued on. And there isn't even any decent reward for dealing with it. Some lazy shit. So if Arrowcuck get to be lazy in their design process, they should let me be lazy in blowing up the base. Not that hellbombing a fortress would even be close to efficient. Like I said before, it wouldn't make a fucking difference. There's no reason not to include it. Arrowhead has genuine IQ problems.
boobies desu?
People actually have troubles with meganests/fortresses? I pretty much always deploy right next to them at the start and chuck a walking barrage at them and delete like half of their bugholes/factories in the first 2 minutes of the mission. They aren't hard, they're just a gear check.
>>491353048some dorks are just upset they can't be running eagle clusters anymore
>>491353048>hdg lobby>HELLDROP on a Fortress at the start of match>Triple walking barrage>it dies in about 15 secondsshitters mad.
>>491353165Thank God too. Fucking got tired of niggers throwing that strat down for every situation and TK'ing up a storm like they were using a airburst launcher.
>arrowhead doesnt know how to code a hellbomb into super bases>they probably also dont know how to code a console spawn in the base too>this is probably why super bases have neither jammers or gunship fabsI was also hoping there ewould be AA or Mortar variant super bases too but i wished for too much
>>491353048People called a the lack of consistency and for some reason that upset some discord raiders
>>491353365Luv me orbital barrages. It's a simple pleasure.
>>491353365>4 hellgooners>4 walkin' barrages>4 HMG emplacements>4 Supah Earth
alexus status?
the doctor is in and he'll see you now
>>491353904yeah that's definitely what the game is missing right nowlmao what a fucking clown
>>491353904Cool, cant wait for it maybe come out a year from now at earliest!
51 MORE DAYS
Huh my dumbass thought losing Pandion would this MO automatic lost.
>>491353861Godlike. Untouchable. Pilestadt and Rajeet kneeling before his 1.2centimeter serbian schlong. A mythic dark being. Expect the autocannon to be nerfed soon.
surely just paused and not scrapped altogether :^)
>>491346462CoolNow lock us out of the strategems we shouldn't be using in d10 so we can play the game the way you want us to, with the laser specific build you've cooked up in your aids riddled head
>>491353904Thank god that fatass is finally home, now fix the fucking game
I got rejected by a girl for the first time since high schoolloadouts for this feel?
>>491351140You're engaged in information warfare against cuck redditors and casuals who genuinely believe the devs are flawless heroes and continuously praise them for their super fun democracy game. Try harder to counter the propaganda or your enemy will come to arrest you one day for speaking out against Sweden
>>491354472orbital 380, orbital 120, walking barrage, eagle cluster bomb. You run at the enemy.
>>491354347No, we just have to hold it by end of the MO. We could have easily held it if people would have just finished off Crimsica like a day or two ago. Instead, we had like 20% of the players locked down there just treading water.But you shouldn't even care. We have repeatedly seen that nothing the players choose to do has any meaningful effect on the GW.
>>491354620guaranteed to be a pattern lazily slapped on the entire armor to look like total shit
>>491354421>we only have 1 emplacement, but more are comingFUCK YESSSSSS, YES YES YES YES, PILESGOD I KNEEL, I LOVE SWEDEN
>>491352920Good point.
>>491354620I wish the team were working on backspacing the current primary damage values, and replacing them with a higher number instead. Add in laser beam and RR while they're at it
>>491354360lmao
>>491354717what he meant was those flimsy walls with stalwart/grenade launcher I reckon
>>491351864if you can stick it right on top i'm pretty sure its a consistent kill on the cannon towers. I swear AH has turned down the auto targeting/aim correction for the few stratagems that have it by a shit ton.i used to love running 110s even if they were shit
>>491354938how can he be "not sure" about his own fucking game?
>>491354360Alexus when he tries to apply the autocannon nerf
>>491355508it's just a security thingif something fucks up and trident is scrapped, delayed or some such, he's got plausible deniabilityjust corpospeak
>>491352920
>>491354421Absolutely scrapped entirely. Last time they touched it was probably 4 years ago. >we're also making a color mod system for armour Oh, I seen this in the leaks. Its just c recolors of the base armour sets.
>>491354863>current primary damage valuesever single nerf to every single primary needs be removed. that will move primaries from joke to actually being able to handle mediums. three zerks should not be sending entire squads fleeing.
>>491355998just bring a breaker and the berserkers will not be a problem. but now everything else is for your gun :v)
>>491355998>mediums>brings up berserkerssir your 1000 HP lights?
>>491355795two 500kgs...
steam://joinlobby/553850/109775241149447882/76561198931226109boogs, Crimsica before it gets 100%
>>491354421>weapon upgradesIts just gonna be ship modules but for weapons, making the game even worse.Have fun dumping 100 super samples into a shit gun so it becomes less shit.>B-But he also said customization!This is Arrowhead, for all we know it'll probably just be skins.
>>491357076>This is Arrowhead, for all we know it'll probably just be skins.it's likely been scrapped anyhow
>>491356857POOL IS CLOSED
>>491357231>mhmi hate 21st century gaming so fucking much, devs talk like they're in a highschool groupchat
>>491357231>P-please ignore the state of the game and look at these cUsToMiZaTiOnS~
>>491357231>attachments>"We've added attachments to the Super Store! Little decorations that you strap to the end of your gun!"
>>491354717>>491354938>LAS-7 pistol emplacement >helldivers can now enjoy an infinite ammo beam weapon emplacement to call down ! >this new addition aligns with our vision >Enjoy your manned turret consisting of 1 LAS7 pistol on a 200s cooldown!
>>491357543Darksissies, i think he is making fun of us.
>>491357632>won't be able to kill a stalker before it gets youcan't wait
>>491354938Oh boy I sure look forward to getting it in 2027 when there's only 10 people still playing the game.
>>491357632don't worry, it'll come pre-nerfed so there's no extra heat sinks
I dream of a railcannon emplacement that fires fully charged unsafe mode railgun shots every second or so and has a 100% durable damage ratio.And those shots penetrate enemies if they overkill and hit more enemies.
Hellsisters do we believe him? Of course not, he's just a dirty lying swigger doing damage control.
>>491358771"We have some ideas" Cool, great. I look forward to seeing them implemented right before EOS.
>>491358704Too fun, nerfed
>>491356857i fucking crashed
Honestly, I think I know exactly how their development process works now.There's not QA, no approval process, nothing like that, because they just push their dev build to main every patch.
>>491351324Yet another ‘tedious’ retard. Don’t use a meta build next time faggot.
When will we have ammo cook offs added to guns if fired for prolonged amounts?
>>491358768>the existence of alexus and similar subhumans on the teami have absolutely no reason to doubt him as the only person on the team that wants to better the game
>NOOOOOOOOOOO HOW DARE YOU USE ONLY STRONG WEAPONS, FILTHY META BUILD USER, TRY BEATING SUPER HELLDIVE ON THERMITE AND STRAFING RUN, YEAH THATS WHAT I THOUGHT, NO SKILL, NOT LEGIT NOT LEGIIIIITTTT
>>491360224>granted, you now drop your gun if you shoot it for too long and cannot pick it back up until it cools down
>>491360443I fucking knew it lmaoGenuinely the worst possible system, now you'll get kicked because you don't have a level 10 Tenderizer or some shit
>>491360451I did this, though.
>>491360780it'll probably be something like hd1 upgrade system>upgrade your liberator to have a drum mag
>>491360780as opposed to getting kicked because someone noticed you don't have the APHEVEXSEX rounds equipped on your tenderizer?
If you can't solo super helldiver reliably without dying and without abusing stealth, your opinion honestly doesn't matter.There, I said it.
>>491360443Me3 level 1-10 weapons… kino…
>>491360883Doubt, more likely something akin to the ship modules>200 common, 150 rare, and 10 super samples to give the Blitzer an extra arc chain>you gotta buy the upgrade that reduces its spread by 60% first though
>be me>host notices my tenderizer doesn't have the 76 round mag>you have been kicked from the game.exe>game crashes to desktop
>>491360996>he doesn't have the penetration-cum-blast-incendiary-explosive-tracer (self destroying) round upgrade for his liberator carbinethat's a kick
>>491360651>BLACK SPOTTED
>>491358768>Yeah I saw the retards on the team fuck up and not try hard enough while on breakI wonder what it is like to be Swedish watching your product die while on breakBUTIt's good to see mister "I will fit it" back in actionThat patch for EoF was good, had it faults and clear "Devs not pLaying their own game vibes in it" but good over all.53 Days Sisters53 Days
>>491360780Dont worry, you will only get kicked for not hugging.
>>491361125Blitzer has overall better stats than the Arc Thrower across the board, with the only difference being that Arc Thrower is Pen 7 and has 45m range, while the Blitzer has 15m and pen 3.Damage, push force, etc. are all higher or equal.
>misclicked and accidentally shot an AC round next to a teammate and ragdolled him into a horde of hunters>he dies>ping "I'm sorry!", even typed "Sorry man, my bad" in the chatbox>reinforce him near his corpse so he can pick up his shits>the first thing the dumb nigger did after he gets out of the pod is shoot me dead and disconnectEither a kid or some thirdworld brownoid having a Brown Behavior moment.
>>491360856nobody cares
491361547you already posted that once
>>491361373Arcthrower feels so awfull. If there is a bush corpse or wall within 5m of you or the enemy you try to shoot it wont hit. It feels broken in a way like the spear lockon was broken.
>>491351646>Why yes I just injected all of my stims at once how did you know
HOLY FUCK THIS ACunt JUST RAGDOLLED ME INTO A BUNCH OF CHAFFS
Why do small bushes block shots
>>491361984bushes are paid by the bugs and bots to run defense for them
>>491361982>>491345429
491361606brown
well, /hdg/? what's your idea for making team wipes a bigger deal?
>>491361982And i'll do it again.
>>491362587Cost extra lives? So instead of -4, -6 or -8.
>>491362587Every time a team wipes, one Arrowhead employee gets fired.
>>491362587RNG roll on where you redeploy...doesn't sound fun
>>491362587Either a mission fail or 5 minutes off your clock
>>491362587they could always just go back to "infinite reinforcements but if everyone is dead at the same time you lose"
>>491362587how about fix parts of the game people are currently unhappy with first before changing team wipe mechanics
>>491362924Sorry, that's a permanent -1 reinforcement on your account.
>>491362910>/hdg/ lobby tranny decided to bring the airburst launcher>team wipe after 2 mins
>>491362587They had it in HD1.>>491362924This though.
>>491363069Airburst is kino
>>491363069>still seething about webm of lads just shootin shit and having a good timelmao
>>491362587Fix the game first. Which means moving current balance team to assets
>>491362587>considered replying to him with "Every time a team wipe happens, a dev has to play a round with the Torcher"
>>491363170brown opinion>>491363246>jajajajaja killing each other over and over is fun!!11brown behavior + fuck off to reddit
>>491363069Based? Shouldve repositioned, shitter.
>>491363572>over and overliterally only happened once and everyone laughed it offyou never been to hdg lobbiesget bent fag
>>491363572your posts arent very kino bro, consider taking a break from the game and thread.
>>491363572This is what zero friends does to a coop shitter.
>>491363572You need a hug lil buddy?
>>491363572Oh, you're one of those retards who throws themselves into the middle of a horde and then throws a hissy fit when they die.
>>491362587
THIS GENNY SUCKS. WHO WANTS A LOBBY?
>>491364259>asking not postingCOME ON!
>>491364189pile... please sir... just curb current issues before making changes that could cause more issues
Helldivers must return to /copeg/
>>491364189FIX.YOUR.GAME.FIRST.
I will never join a hdg lobby, they seems to be populated by trannies and ESL thirdworlders
>>491364539Please don't join.
>>491364375We should go back for 1 thread so people will realise we got the "good" swedish devs and it could be way worse.
I don't care what anyone says, zerkers are absolutely way too fucking tanky to be spammed in such high numbers
>>491364539I can't refute this
>>491364375The Darktiders are going to bully us...
>>491364539all me btw
>>491364539Railcannon cuck is still assblasted LOL
>>491364615Had a failure to extract the other day because we couldn’t do enough damage to beat the conga lines of these things before my teammates killer themselves for the 30th time.
>>491346963>it's okay you get a hellbomb to destroy detectors that aren't in fortresses but when it is in a fortressyou must work at AH
>>491364936Sometimes the lines of these things are 30 long. Not an exaggeration, I watched a replay of mine and counted. 30,000 HP, it's all so tedious.
>>491364607I never played a fatshark game, but I can't imagine it's be worse than HD2
>>491364539>they seems to be
Anyone here actually believe that this BT MO is devs "testing" shit?
>>491365521
>>491364539Why would you care if someone's ESL when the only things said in game are "bunker" or "stalkers" and maybe someone who's dead complaining about dying to shitty swedecode?
>>491364189What a fucking shitty pointless idea, this isn't even a punishment for wiping (dropping you where there probably aren't going to be any enemies), unless the punishment is intended to be the mind-numbing tedium of walking across the map to pick your shit up if it's on CD in which case fuck off.
>>491365751he's probably latinx don't bother
>anons groomed me into bringing the orbital gatling>it barely kill anything as oppose to orbital airburstI remember being groomed into bringing the Lib Pen to bot too, the people in this gen are full of shit
>>491365521Helldivers unironicly has gotten more content than darktide in a quarter of the time. And Arrowhead is better at comunicating.
>>491365720I'm pretty sure it's just them being spiteful. They're seething that the chad chinks fucked the previous rigged MO.
>>491365824>projectingYou wish you were me, rajeet
>>491366139spiteful how? this one's getting completed ezpz
>>491366014>fell for bait>twice lmao
>>491366014>orbital airburstliteral dogshitwhat are you taking this to? diff 6?
>>491366014Make up your own mind then anon
>>491365521>players discover that a couple of the ultimates in VT2 can one shot minibosses and stage bosses with headshots due to huge multipliers>"oh, that's no good, we need to nerf that!">introduce aggressive HP gating to enemies>now takes like eight of those ultimates to kill one enemy>no changes to the classes with said ultimates>no change to cooldown so you can use it more frequently>just basically "fuck you your giant single target nuke ultimate is worthless" because there's nothing else worth using it onalso endlessly farming in the hopes you get randomized loot that matches your intended build is a cancer
>>491366050This community of addicts really hates it when you start using facts on them. Basically all the other games I play frequently have only gotten one major update in the last year and a few bug fixes.
>>491366014Some fucking sissy tried to groom me into bringing an orbital EMS for bots. I used it three times in that mission and it didn't do FUCK.
>>491366478>but muh fortnite
>>49136626310, short CD time and it kills everything under it's umbrella, effective at suppressing bug breaches
>>491366014>grug take unga>number go big but die for small time>long wait for new big numbers>grug take bunga>small number but die for big time>short wait but small numbers>big number better than small number...>unga better than bunga... hmmm crunga....it's a personal preference, moron
>>491366636>EMSyo nigga, you were suppose to pair it with a 120mm barrage, skill issue little man, big L ong skibidi
>>491366679Bring Napalm eagle instead. It fucks bugs hard.
>>491366679napalm/120 already suppress bug breaches for much longer and to much greater extentswhat sort of kill counts are you seeing with it
>>491366014They're entirely different kinds of strats.Orbital gatling is "thin the herd hurts everything very low CD" strat that you can throw on anything and it'll deal some damage. But it can't clear said thing completely.Orbital airburst is chaff area clear on a longer CD.
>>491366998you either brind orbital precision + napeor airburst + 2x500kganother thing of preference
are those the sadest two achievements?
>>491367106Napalm eagle is just objectively the best swarm killer for a single red stratagem. I'm not speaking to anything else people want to get done.
steam://joinlobby/553850/109775241156662334/76561198378364080lobby decides, but d7-d10 ideally, samples appreciated.
Starting a lobby in about ten minutes. Get your beer, your bussy wiped and prepare for some anal.
>>491367340>serbaw hell nawDON'T JOINALEXUS HONEYPOT LOBBY
>>491365751>be EOLI just assume everyone who is ESL is probably smarter than me because they can remember more than the one language I know.
>>491367420LMAO NOOOOO RACISM
Post YOUR Meta (yes I know this contradicts):Bugs GearServo Assisted ArmorIncel BreakerNade PistolImpact NadeBugs Strats:Eagle ASOrbital Precision StrikeShield BackpackQuasar (too lazy to keep spamming EATS)Bots Gear:Enforcer ArmorScorcherNade Pistol Impact NadesBots Strats:Eagle ASOrbital Precision StrikeLaser CannonWalking BarrageThis has been proven again and again to be a proven part of a winning D10 team composition. You can solo bases. You can support teammies. You can kill all heavies. The controversial Quasar on bugs is because EATS just take too much keystroke spam. Being able to reliable whack heavies every 15 seconds in tandem with strats is key.
>>491367519My esl sisters.wir sind so zurück.
>>491367718OPS alwaysWalking botsEagle airstrike bots500 bugsNapalm strike bugsI just want to get things done and deviating from this makes the game a pain in the ass.
>>491367718Bugs:Default armorCookoutNade PistolRailgun something I'm experimenting with again. Otherwise it's usually commando and eatsNapalm EagleOrbital Precision strikeLaser droneBots (also currently an experiment):ScorcherNade Pistol Grenade launcherStandard EagleAmmo BackpackOrbital PrecisionEagle Rocket PodsIf I'm not running scorcher, it's plasma punisher + railgun, which is my more foolproof loadout, but I'm experimenting with the nade launcher for Total Devestator Death and killing dropship troops before they even hit the ground.
>>491367718>>491368147WOAH NIGGA, WE AINT READIN ALLAT
>>4913673403/4 d10
>>491368147Oh right and stun nades for bots and have been trying napalm nades for bugs.
>>491352060>hasn't played the game in 4 months>still comments on current efficacy of stratagems/weaponsmany such cases
Send this to Pile with the note "Your game is suffering an identity crisis"
steam://joinlobby/553850/109775241159799902/76561198070044660D10, bugs or bots, IDGAF. NO SAMPLE SISSIES.
>>491366679>kills everything under its umbrella Statements like this are how we know you have never set foot in d10
>>491364375
>>491360435But anon he's responsible for some of the worst autism this game has.
>>491368439Keeps failing to let me anon :c
>>491369043>laughing TF2 devs
>>491369043how do redeemer's 31 round mags make sense in this context?
>>491367158>~50% of players don't play the game past 50 missions
>>491369375>>491367158Okay real question, how the hell do you get the "every body part injured' achievement? The other ones i don't have I could easily set aside to do, I think I have like 3 left?But this one mystifies me.
>>491369237this is what the redeemer is loosely based on, the steyr TMPthis one here's the semi automatic variant but it's more or less the same thingthe magazine pictured holds 30 rounds plus one in the chamber
>>491369237>lmao only 9mm
>>491369043Who give a fuck about the 3d model... Just change the capacity to a higher number
Now that the flamethrower has been fixed and balanced, what other weapons need to be brought down a notch? The AC is an obvious one, and honestly the HMG might be bit too powerful now. The AMR is also quite strong against bots and picked fairly often.Also the fire breaker needs another balance pass, it's still far better than the breaker and the snp. Also the cookout might need some adjustments.
>>491369375By then they've seen everything the game has to offer literally nothing but nerfs lol lmao
>>491369530>Who give a fuck about the 3d modelObviously he does, which is exactly my point. This is just the small window we can see, imagine what other retarded autistic shit he forces on the dev team we will never hear about.
>>491369494When a Heckdiver reinforces onto me, I see all breaks but it doesn't count towards the cheevo because dead before borken
>>491369494democracy protectscook an HE grenade in your hand until it explodes
>>491369494the gambler suityou drop a hellpod on yourself and hope for democracy protects kicking in
>>491369802Yeah that's the issue. If everything breaks how is your character still alive? You can purposefully inflict some breaks but then you'll just die and stimming of course fixes wounds.>>491369878>>491369909I was trying eagle strikes with that but maybe it was just too many damage sources. I guess that makes sense.
>>491369494i got it early on by getting hit my a large explosion like a 500kg/hellbomb before they made it so explosions cant hit multiple body parts
>>491369608If any weapon support or otherwise can kill anything bigger than a scav you've still got work to do Alexus.
>>491369964iirc they made heckfallers have the explosion immunity tag to fix the old explosions one shot glitch, so you might have to hellpod yourself instead, i got the achievement before that change and just cooked a grenade
>>491369494Democracy Protects, drop an EAT pod on yourself.
>>491370114Right, thanks.
>>491369494The way I did it was wear democracy protects like everyone says and stood under a hellpod until I won the coin toss. Positioning is somewhat important, throw the beacon and stand so that it's in the small of your back.
>design with the philosophy that each player is geared towards different enemy types teamplay>then throw literally every type of enemy at every individual player nonstop>then bitch and nerf any meta that appears
>>491370604>NOOOOOO WHY ARE YOU TAKING A LOADOUT THAT CAN HANDLE EVERYTHING>WHAT ABOUT YOUR HECKIN TEAMMATES AAAAAAAAIIIIIIIIEEEEEEE
>>491370604>every squaddie should specialize in something!>the only viable specialized AT options are the Spear and CommandoRIP in piss RR
>>491371015The Spear doesn't even necessarily oneshot Hulks if it misses the head.
>>491369530>>491369043thats just not true. i even compared the in game models you drop and its the same there.Either he is full of shit, or they modeled a gigantic magazine spring which takes up a third of the total height
>>491371015>alexus too high on his own farts to see any issue with his hypocrisy
>>491367852I’m not an ESL anon, I said I’m English Only Language.
>>491371306The correct term is EOP
Heavy AT REALLY needs a change. It's unacceptable how much stuff heavy AT cannot oneshot or needs to hit a very precise part to oneshot. You have very limited ammo and either your heavy AT is disposable or has a long reload time.Recoiless is fucking awful at this point. The fact that I can't just point and click at the new armored striders is retarded. These should be "delete this" weapons, not competing with the railgun to kill the hulk in one hit if you aim properly.
>>491371689i'm fine with AT requiring a modicum of precision as long as the target is something like a charger head, at this point the RR/queso/EAT need to be able to one shot most heavy threats though
>>491364375fuck off back to your slow and uninteresting thread.
>>491371808A modicum of aim but the spot you need to hit the hulk is just as small as any other weapon, it's stupid. And the armored scout strider? No fuck that, even hitting its stupid chicken legs should make it keel over and be dead. It's extra stupid because heavy AT doesn't even benefit from shooting vents since vents are purely about lowering the pen it takes to damage something. The Spear not oneshotting hulks most of the time outside of pure luck is absolute pain.
anyone want to do the 6 b barrages achievement?
Is Curia back open yet?
>>491372335nah
>>491371689Wait, RR doesn't even oneshot roid striders with a single bodyshot? What the fuck are these fetid fish fellators THINKING.
>>491372335we have trash
>>491372373Shame, no reason to come back then
>>491371689The questions then is should AT deal 2000 ap10 direct and 1000 ap7 AoE so that they are always relevant or should enemies not be as tanky?I'm of the opinions that the game would be better if all enemy armour was reduced by 1
>>491372526https://helldiverscompanion.com/this one shows currently available planets
>>491367718>BOOGSI have two that I’ve been bouncing betweenLoadout 1Server Assisted Light armorPunisher to stunlock stalkers or have fun when it’s a pouncer seed PULLSenator so I can blast hive guards in a pinch from the frontStun nades because I’m a shitterStratsRecoilless Rifle that yearns for the legs of chargers and misses being able to reliably two tap bile titansEagle air strike, this is my main bug hole clear aside from the RROPS for ImpalersEagle 500kg for ImpalerThe last two picks used to be gas strike and air burst to focus on chaff during big breaches but impalers have fucked everything up. This is my tried and true that I’ve spent to most time running. Loadout 2 Peak physique light armorPunisher for same reasonsSenator for same reasonsStun nades because I’m a shitterStratsMachine Gun, set to max fire rate.Supply pack, to feed the machine gun.OPS for impalers500kg for impalersThis is the more for fun one where I hope everyone else on the team can focus on armor while I keep the littler bugs off them. I also like supplying grenades to a dedicated grenade launcher diver while we bum rush into a bug nest, it’s a good feeling. Having the same two strats for each is kinda basic, but I like to think keeping myself vanilla allows others to run more off the wall shit.
>>491372437It "dEpEnds" where you hit them once again. So I think if you hit the top of the dome you are fine, but nope, a regular full body center shot takes two hits because fuck you.>>491372567I don't really care much how it's done desu, it just needs to be done. Whichever makes heavy AT function as it should without affecting the rest of the game so they don't break even more things.
>>491372591>two foggy shitholes and a sandstorm planet with fire tornadoswowI'd love to play HD2 and waste some bots but not on these shit tier biomes
>>491372131right there with you, though given the way that heatsinks work it's difficult to think of a fix that isn't just "up AT damage significantly." i don't think it'd be overpowered for a proper AT shot to the strider factory/BT face or tank turret (all of which, coincidentally, have 100 more HP than the AT shots do) at this point though. the facstrider and BT heads are kinda finnicky anyways >>491372567if they were to go that far the spear would be rendered irrelevant, unless it got upped to basically be a targeted hellbomb so it could kill BTs and fac striders through pure HP damage
>>491371470What’s the “P” stand for?
>>491372849peasantlurk moar
>>491372848>i don't think it'd be overpowered for a proper AT shot to the strider factory/BT face or tank turret (all of which, coincidentally, have 100 more HP than the AT shots do) at this point though.i don't think it'd be overpowered for a proper AT shot to said zones to one shot them*
>>491371689>RR can't oneshot a turret>cant oneshot a tank>cant oneshot a hulk>cant oneshot a charger>cant oneshot BT>cant oneshot the implier >splash radius is so low and damage so poor that it cant even delete a tightly packed clump of devs or zerkers in one shot I love the RR but what the fuck is its use case at this point?
>>491371306Okay, sorry. I'll translate it: We are so back.
>>491373132team reloading is about the only thing it has left
ADM 401 for RR when?HE 441D for RR when?ASM 509 for RR when?hell, ILLUM 545 when?if you aren't gonna buff it, make it the swiss swedish lmoaaa army knife of launchers
>>491373132There's no use case against bots. Well, maybe if you really have a fetish for dropping gunships.It used to be good against chargers before the OOPS ALL BEHEMOTHS change happend
>>491373485no, no more swedish faggot weaponseverything they make is trash and gay, even the carl gaystaf
>>491373551Recoiless was already sketchy vs. bugs because of that long reload time, but yeah, hulks completely killed it.
>>491373551>Well, maybe if you really have a fetish for dropping gunships.Guilty as charged on Eradicate and Evac missions.A nice little corner with the RR and EAT's, OPS and a MHMG. Kino
>>491373614listen here you lite skit
>>491373689It could handle chargers and titans well, which is all I want from a heavy AT option. It can't even reliably strip behemoth leg armor right now, and I've got no clue how it performs against impliers. Also the titan head randomly becoming invincible seems to be getting more and more common.
>>491373132>AkshualyIt can 1 hit hulks in the eye and im pretty certain you can 1 hit chargers if you walk forward and hit the small section of armor above its ass (its weird dont ask).
>>491373485>theres a different bug for each type of ammunition
>>491374020It shouldn't have to hit a Hulk in the eye to kill it. With how low the ammo count is and how many Hulks spawn, it should be guaranteed to delete a Hulk, period.
>>491373943>Also the titan head randomly becoming invincible seems to be getting more and more common.Yeah this is annoying as hell. It doesn't perform well against the impaler because they decided to give it just a huge health pool. 3 - 4 commando rockets kill it I think. I would guess at least 3 recoilless.
>>491366350>nooo let me one-shot the boss I NEED to be the main characterKill yourself wutelgi.
>>491374282I wouldnt mind it not killing hulks with 1 hit to the body if:>it could 1 hit hulks to the vent>it could 1 hit tanks/turrets from the front
>>491374083>illumination rounds provides no illumination, only a blinding glare>HEDP has neither enough penetration to pen anything of value nor enough splash to use it against lesser targets>tandem heat just phases through the targets>tandem HE has the grenade launcher syndrome where it will bounce and only then explode unless the target is 150 meters away>ASM deals no damage at all to the enemies but the shockwaves created will ragdoll helldivers similarly to current buratino/doom chicken rockets>smokeby god bring it i am ready
>>491373924>>491373551it's just as easy and quicker to delete gunships with the fucking amr. AT should not be invalidated by a sniper rifle>>491374020>It can 1 hit hulks in the eyeI think you're right, but if i have to spend that long lining up a precision shot with a non-precision scope and hope it hits just right in a tiny area, and be forced to stop and reload if I miss, why wouldnt I just use the amr, railgun, or even the laser cannon
>>491337968>>491337462>>491336630youre shooting too low on the tentacles. you need to shoot at the main bit before it branches into 3 otherwise you hit "armor"in fact you even see a red hit marker flash when you hit the right spot but then keep dumping into the "armor" with subsequent grenades
when the fuck did Vernen Wells get connected to Tarsh?
>>491374020The piece of shit should be able to 1 shot a hulk on any part of the body. Plus, you can only theoretically take out at most 6 hulks with the RR before needing a resupply. Whereas the other support weapons can theoretically take out:>HMG -> 56 hulks>AC -> 30 hulks>AMR -> 24 hulk>RG -> 21 hulksAnd thats without a supply pack
why in the FUCK does pandion have 3% fucking decay. Are we being cuckolded AGAIN into a forced loss by mister J? Holy shit the galactic war meta is the single biggest failure of arrowhead. an enduring "late-game" story that is affected by player decision SHOULD be an easy interactive slam dunk. instead it's a retarded slop fest with obvious win/lose angles.
>>491374903When we kept doing the last major order too fast
>>491375138he knows chinks can rig the bug killing part just like they did the sample mo so he delays the possible completion by cockblocking the planet liberation
>>491375223>called Aesir Pass>just get passed by now
>>491374593what if the RR cam with some side packets that had special shot in them, like smoke/flare/stun, only a few and was linked to the RR and not the PackHold reload to change ammo type and your Diver will swap out the round as needed.>>491374695Oh fuck sorry I thought that was about DROPships
>>491373925I don't know what I'm looking at, but I hate it.
>>491375138People don't believe us until they see it when we say to ignore the galactic rigged war, then they join the chorus
>>491375325>Hold reload to change ammo type and your Diver will swap out the round as needed.why stop at thatjust make use of the weapon mod menu and have the shells being smart turbooverengineered multipurpose gigaprojectiles that only need adjusting before being loadedsurely you can just pretend for a second there's a HEAT-MP M830A1 lookalike for the super carl-gustav that also can turn into an illumination shell by, I don't know, injecting the copper with the secret sauce?
>>491374282>>491374695>>491375124Why does it need to 1 hit hulks to the body? Spear doesnt do that but its still a very meta pick on bots because it can deal with tanks/turrets in 1 hit.
>>491375705The spear should 1 shot hulks with a body shot too. Also you shouldn't bring the spear with you on bots unless your teammates don't mind carrying you.
>>491372437>>491372694Hitting anywhere on the armoured fighting compartment is a one shotHitting the hips is a one shotHitting the rocket rails only destroys the railsHitting the tips of the gun barrels is not a one shot, because gun barrels are void entities
>>491375138Easier to railroad the fuck out of everything than to make up the narrative on the fly in response to player agency. I do actually wonder why AH have exposed the API that allows anyone to just look behind the curtain and plainly see the raw numbers getting diddled clear as day.
>>491375705>Spear >meta
>>491375692>Fucking Judge Dredd RR shellsI get it, I see where it's coming from and why it would be cool, personally don't vibe with it.I like the idea of two packs hanging on the DIvers hips with special shot
>>491375926Spear is honorary autocuck. Nothing beats it for dealing with tank seeds and id rather have 1 spear than a 4th AC.
I wont take this recoilless slander, its the second best AT behind the Spear on bugs fuck you all
fug uspear is my wife
>Finally get to play bots in the jungle>Cannot see a god damn thing Fun!
>>491376234This is how melting a Charger legs felt like
>>491376161I'd rather just bring 110 rocket pods, OPS, eagle airstrike, 500kg, or a combination of these stratagems, and also take the AC or a slightly less good support weapon. The spear just doesnt do enough work.
>>491376234>RR users cant fathom hitting the hulk eye>Meanwhile Spearchads
>>491376420too bad they've equipped chargers with magnets and there's almost a 100% chance of dying if caught under the charge
>>491373485Inb4 they go full World of Tanks mode and you have to pay SC for "premium" ammo.
>>491374387nigga did you miss the part where they did absolutely nothing else and just made the classes suck as a result?
>>491368439GG sisters, you EU guys aren't so bad. The doom sissies give you a bad rep.
>>491376956>presses FDead. Not alive.
>>491378545
I wish you could play stuff on the super destroyer tv on demand. Like the general brasch videos.
>>491378939wtf am i looking at
>>491376539>crutch grenade user
>>491378952Don't worry. In half a year instead of weapons and weapon cosmetics, warbonds will come with SD cosmetics.
>>491378952I have noticed the TV plays less and less shows>>491379015the Elf player, a soldier for the anti-christ, tk'd the dwarf which lost the party a book which provides more points for loot at mission end.the player in the video then kills the Elf player as god intended.
>>491378952I've noticed recently that the videos are out of sync with the audio. It's most easily noticeable when in the brasch videos at the end when the shooting SFX is supposed to sync with the text impacting letter by letter.
>>491367718BOTSPlasma Punisher/CounterfireNade PistolStun nadePadded LightRailgunSupplyOPSEagle Airstrike or some kind of BarrageBOOGSSickleNade PistolStun madePadded LightGranade LauncherSupplyOPSAirburst
>Pandion defense just barely failed>and is now chugging at a rate where it won't be recaptured before the MO completes>there are almost as many bugdivers on all the other bug worlds combined as on PandionThey really are fucking stupid, aren't they? Or do you blame Joel for opening up so many bug planets to even give them the option to spread themselves so thin?
>>491379651the decay rate will get reduced as the killing part closes to completionas usual
>>491379651If devs want to seem less retarded they should just add MO-notes, like "we don't expect you to win all the planets, what you choose to save will dictate the next course of action/missions".This could even be a fucking lie and irrelevant, but roleplayfaggots like myself would at least be fed an illusion of something going in whichever way and not a predetemined fail (that can be spontaneously overriden by the devs).
>>491379651I don't blame them. It's yet another foggy shithole nobody wants to play in.
>>491378545https://www.nexusmods.com/helldivers2/mods/195I'm actually using this kek
>>491379651A little of part A and a little of part B. More options for the players always results in a spread that reduces effectiveness, but at the same time it doesn't fucking matter because nothing we do actually matters to Arrowhead's vision. Hackers could ruin every MO and it wouldn't matter.
>>491380204The cloud jungle biome is actually one of my more favourite biomes vs bugs since the bugs tend to stick out pretty well among the grey landscape well enough, and the fog isn't that significant of a debuff when the bugs' basic debuff is brap gas fog anyway. A little more fog doesn't make them any more obnoxious. It's more of an issue on the actual brap desert biome since that acid rain fog is actually thick as fuck.
>>491380397>use flamethrower (before nerf)>I AM THE COMET>I BUUUUUUURN THE IMPUREcould be kino
>>491375951Look, I've hit it with recoiless before and it's still standing. This was recent. I'm not making up shit to start shit, that's genuinely what I have done and seen with my own eyes. I don't know the mechanics behind, I can't explain it, other then to say it happened. Something inconsistent and fucky is happening.
>>491379015Sigmar's will made manifest.
>>491381109you likely hit the gunsor the rocket racks
>>491381191These were dead on shots, I've done it more than once in the same mission. I'm talking the center of the chassis, maybe leaning towards a bit below the center line. >the gunsYou mean the front canons. Is that fucking negating my entire rocket?
>>491381415>the guns negatingyessir!
>>491381415>Is that fucking negating my entire rocket?yesit's not a rocket btw
>>491381109>>491381415the two guns on the very front are literally invincible and even though they give a hitmarker they do not propagate damage to the base health.I dont have a clip but we had one singled out in a lobby at extract once and 4 people blasting into the cannons did nothing.
>>491381415>center of the chassis, maybe leaning towards a bit below the center line.so it most likely did hit the guns
/coopg/ RULES this pathetic thread
>>491381591>>491381524>>491381502>>491381661That's fucking bullshit and I'm not changing my position.
just played my first game post patch, a mere dif 8Nothing did change about ragdoll, let me guess, "small missile" are the ones fired by us. Lying for the swede is as natural as taking a breath
>>491381723i don't like the rules either, but this is how sweden works apparently
>>491381663I can't refute this
Honestly i didn't notice anything different either. Maybe only light armor tards are affected
>>491380158So, for clarity's sake, he didn't figure this out from internal communication. The CHIEF CREATIVE OFFICER of AH, who's responsible for creative direction and decisions, had no fucking clue about the changes to the flamethrower.>Nobody told him it was being nerfed. >Nobody told him about the update's controversy after it dropped.>No advance knowledge of flames being ruined during the fucking FLAME warbond.>No discussion of player feedback, he hears literally NOTHING about Unironically, what is happening at AH studios? I know this is a question that's been asked a lot, but seriously: what is happening there?Alexus is making changes without anyone's knowledge, contradicting posited design philosophies and confusing the CEO, CCO, and coworkers. He's CONTINUING to make these changes despite being told not to on multiple occasions, while also not buffing ANY of the 20+ completely unusable weapons, while also dropping garbage stratagems that nobody wants, and leaving them completely untouched for weeks/months. How is any of this even being allowed by Sony? AH is fumbling one of the easiest bags in gaming history. They had GOTY, a sealed reputation, and a monthly income marked in the millions if they could've just held their end of things, but they CONTINUE to make braindead decisions without letting go of the people sandbagging the company. Speaking as someone who's worked on the executive side of things, literally EVERY piece of news that's come out has been an incredibly large red flag. There's not been a single uplifting blogpost, piece of news, or AH insider message that's said anything but "We're fucked""We're confused" "We're sorry""We don't know what's happening" "We'll do better next time"All of which makes no fucking sense when they continue to follow this flat-circle pattern of behavior that never changes. The structure never meaningfully shifts, and they continue to sink. All the while>he has to hear about it from fucking FACEBOOK
>>491381663I miss the friendly inter-species racism of VT. Darkshart and the 40k fags that came with it really ruined everything with their post-ironic racism.
>>491380983"Dead not alive" and "Your crime is your foul existence, the sentence is death" is more than enough
>>491381809small rockets are rocket raider, rocket devastator, and gunship rocketsIt feels like nothing changed because 95% of the ragdolls from rocket raiders and rocket devastators are from direct hits. Against gunships, which fire from elevated positions and are much more likely to miss but still hit close to you, there is a small reduction in the frequency of ragdolling if you're not just sitting there letting yourself eat the barrage directly.
>>491382157Kneel before your dark SERBIAN god. He will see this game burned to ashes, transformed into a perfect tarkov MIL-SIM where 1 elite helldiver barely has a chance against a warrior bug. Perfect balance will be achieved. They must OBEY the SUPERIOR balance direction that LORD ALEXUS has envisioned... Swedish cuckold law demands it.
>>491382658I hate swedes
>>491382157It's an incompetently run business. I've never worked at one this bad, but communication issues do in fact lead to issues that balloon out of control the regular. I've even caused some with seemingly innocent emails because my I used one word a bit too loosely and then the snowball starts. Staff outright refusing to communicate regularly or report accurately is something that can plague any organization and if it is routine and widespread because the company doesn't regularly beat it's employees, things fucking break. It's clear that AH has terrible staff discipline and they do not follow proper procedures or even have procedures setup.
>>491381663Coopg will suck so long as darksissies are in it. They focus their hatred and disdain for their own game and fatshark at any new big coop game, scaring away the new blood the thread needs into making their own general.
>Game started with good player numbers>Obliterate the bots and kept the bugs at bay>Players leave the game, so dedicated players remains>The bots returns, more aggressive than ever>The bugs becomes aggressive too>Players keeps leaving until only the hardcore players remains>Operations keeps failing because of lack of players>Enemies reach Super Earth>The hardcore players fight against all odds>Hardcore players saves Super Earth>Dedicated players comes back because of the hype>Players defeat the bots and bugs
>>491383198>until only the hardcore players remainaka the discord trunnies>enemies reach super earthand the players are only doing difficulty 4 missions giving little to no XP>fight against all oddsjeol rigs it so the 0% decay rate is bolstered with intermittent "support" from SEAF reinforcements>save Super EarthIt was rigged from the start>Dedicated players come backto see the swede has done no work (the super earth battles were not urban, just a re-skin of another map)>players defeat the bots and bugsending the first galactic SNORE.
>>491383198Kino
>>491382157This proves that they have absolutely zero change control.
>>491382658Man, I'd be fine with HD2 if it was more of a milsim. The issue is, things are functioning far below that quality standard.Rocket launches should be completely shredding chargers.AT mines should be weight-activated by the ton, not by 500 pound devs or 100 pound troopers.SEAF anti air should be range-limited by the kilometers, not meters. The SPEAR too.Enemies that break down INSTANTLY without heat sinks should be extremely vulnerable to fire, not immune to it.The RG should be able to kill tanks and gun turrets MUCH faster, considering all they need to do is ~600 damage to a very small, specific area (which it is able to penetrate into).The flamethrower, ESPECIALLY, just makes no sense. Flamethrowers in the 1940s were LEAGUES better than the one we have, and we have literally CENTURIES of progress and BILLIONS of fucking citizens who have an extremely strong incentive to make a good one. It's completely fucking illogical.If he wants a milsim, he should fucking patch it to be one. Instead, we get "arcade philosophy, milsim nerfs" where things are designed to be balanced, and are then nerfed by the retarded laws of his nonsense reality. God, it's so fucking annoying. I used to be a fan of labour laws and workers' rights, but Sweden is shattering my beliefs down to the core. Fuck Swedes. They deserve to be crunched, chewed, then spat out.
>>491384002You don't hate them enough.
https://x.com/Helldiversmedia/status/1826411881361199591ARROWHEAD NEEDS TO EMERGENCY HOTFIX THIS IT MAKES THE SIDE OBJECTIVE WORTH DOING REEEE
>no moon>no lobbiessad
>>491384680new tech just dropped
>>491384680wow, that solves the auto sprint juggling being a pain in the ass problem
>>491384680Neat. I'll use it while I can.
>>491384680>still having 'swap to grenade' bound>not exclusively using quick grenadeshant be rebinding for this, but I'm glad this jank exists for the autism bros that will use it.
>>491385417What possible reason do you have for unbinding button 4
>>491375594State funded kids show slop that I hope no child ever watchesIt's just real life footage with extremely cheap and poorly animated 3d models of cars and kids speaking broken swedish (typical arabic immigrant way of speaking) doing stuff. I can't tell you what because they pull the episodes after a certain amount of time. The show is called "bilakuten" which just translates to "The car ER", as in emergency roomits grim stuff
>Get teleported back to super destroyer, no kick.THEY STILL HAVEN'T FIXED THIS SHIT
>>491384680You can just throw them you know
>>491385506to make room to use that as my stim button. It would be a waste of such a good keybinding, so close to WASD, to leave it on a redundant bind like grenade swap.
>>491385748Post the swedish autistic tank animations.
>>491385884If you swap to grenades while holding a heavy weapon you can throw them faster without having to go through the animation to put the weapon away every time like you do with quick grenade, I use this often
>>491385748Manmade horrors beyond my imagination
>>491385748The mouths are... unsetteling.
>>491372909>>491373413You shouldn’t be. Sorry, that is. Stands to reason I’m a peasant of the Federal Reserve.
damn quiet in the lobbys
>>491385748The creators of this should make their own fnaf series.
>>491385748Someone greenlit this nightmare fuel.
>>491384002Look anon, HD2 was in development hell for years. Basically everyone except Pilestedt has left halfway through. And judging by the amount of bugs introduced in each patch, the new hires dont know jack shit about the code base. Same happened with Darktide: the old guard has left and new hires cant do shit. After 1,5 years you still cant even roll a weapon with over 80% stats, as they havent even implemented all weapon tiers. They added like 3 maps. In the same time, the VT2 skeleton crew consisting of ~5 veterans pushed out two entire map packs, two new classes, new weapons, updated weapon skins from Weave gamemode to main game, revamped entire Weave gamemode and more. While Swedens work laws may have some effect, its mostly just a company full of incompetents. VT2 team is swedish and they didnt have any issues keeping up.
>>491385748Kek that shit reminds me of thishttps://youtu.be/gtK0uFLz7mw
>>491386036Until stun grenades get nerfed, I do not see a reason to throw more than one at a time.
>>491386390>using stun grenades against botslol
>>491385748>cartoony cars>with extremely realistic human teethwhat the fuck is wrong with sweden.
>>491386574They should make PDP play trashdivers as the 1 year anniversary to regeneate sokme massive population. Him playing for a few hours will also make him have fun from all the shitty and buggy mechanics, which will wail how absolutely horrid that notion is for longterm play.
>>491386463>Until smoke grenades get nerfed, I do not see a reason to throw more than one at a time.
lel
>>491383074to be fair /hdg/ is a cesspool
>>491387457Yeah, it's called getting good. I've never ONCE had this issue running a D10 lobby.KYS.
>>491387457out of 16 stratagem slots, if someone doesn't have something to kill a detector tower without a hellbomb then that group should not be in d10. Why are they like this?
>>491388208>Need to ruin my meme build with faggot OPS
>>491388420Don't talk about my wife that way
At this point I'm convinced Sony ordered AH to smother the game as revenge over the snoy account shit
>>491387457good. it should be this waybring the proper tools or shut the fuck up and fuck off from the difficulty you're not prepared for
>>491388208Someone absolutely should but not providing a hellbomb means you are even more likely to have to run a specific build
>>491384680I just toss them
>every detector tower gets a hellbomb option>except this one because uuuuuuuuuuh.... shut up!
WHY IS THIS GAME CRASHING ALL THE TIME I JUST WANNA KILL BUUGS AND SHIEET ;-;
>>491386876>intentionally gimps himself by removing a keybind to make his char less controllable>copes about itlol *sprints with munitions*
>>491383074The only sissy is you. That's why you keep saying it lmao. I have no idea what that Dark game is.
>>491389524Just wait for the next big patch bro, just 60 days bro it will save us and fix everything bro
>>491389521It's probably hardcoded that hellbombs become available within an objective's "radius". The detector tower is an entity that isn't tied to the 'objective' in the fortress, so you can't get hellbombs. They could make it so you get hellbombs when you step in the fortress "radius", but probably don't want to do this as it's incongruent with the other outpost/base objectives where you have to bring grenades to kill the spawners.It's strange to see them say it's "intentional" though
>>491389524>>491389708I've had a big increase in objectives bugging out. From like nothing to it's happened to me many times in the last couple of weeks. Which is really bad since that means the entire operation is sunk.
>>491387457This one is fine because the game should expect you to be able to handle things yourself at that high. Fortresses aren't required objectives, so if you can't kill the detector tower there then don't attack the fortress.
>>491389708that's it. I'm reinstalling rainbow six siege
>>491389526By the time you get that sprint glitch to work everyone already flung all the shells from 30m away
>>491388208this is obviously true, but it doesn't negate the inconsistent and retarded design philosophiesit also just doesn't make sense from a military perspective>>491389819not "intentional", it's INDENTED, like a paragraph or the dev's skulls
>>491389891HAHAHAHAHA
>>491388909>>491388420>orbital laser>380 barrage>120 barrage>walking barrage>500kg>OPSJust off the top of my head. ive heard gas and smoke can also destroy them on direct hits. Nothing is limiting your build, you and your squad are just collectively griefing one another if you are bringing 16 stratagems that are so shit that not one of them can kill the detector tower.
>>491389891>complains about shit game>plays even shittier game
>>491389891After they revealed the wheelchair character I have a hard time believing even the most ironic contrarian would say the game is good
>>491390169>wheelchair characterYou're pulling my goddamn leg
piles doesn't seem nearly as annoyed as I was expecting him to be that his game is at an all time low of users 2 weeks after season 2 started
>>491390289No
>>491390125>Arc Thrower>Jump pack>Mortar>HMG Emplacement Unfortunately no space left for the shitty things you mentioned
>>491390289Wake up, son. We're living in a clown world.
>>491389936I can't remember the last time I saw a detector tower die to a hellbomb in a thread lobby. The design philosophy is obviously inconsistent as fuck, but part of the fun is the learning curve, and literal d5 shitters are the only ones who would complain about not getting a 'free' hellbomb for the DIFFICULTY TEN SUPER FORTRESS detector tower.
>>491390380>>491390289>>491390169Also man, every time I look at the original roster it makes me sad. So many things that are good are lost and ruined.And there is still not cool game stealing the cool core mechanics from this game, it's almost been 10 years by now.
>>491390380>Can create robots with a full range of motions and functioning legs.>Cannot create cybernetic legs him/her/it/genderslop.At some point, being disabled has become a personality trait instead of something desired to be cured and it's sickening that it's being treated that way.
>>491390450i'll complain about it because it's indicative of a retarded design philosophy made by devs who probably don't know how to code hellbomb placements/locations outside "X radius of the objective"
Schizo question. How is the new flam-66 special weapon against bots? It has 3 pen and respectable ((single target)) dps.
>>491390810dogshit, you're better off using the slugger (dogshit) if you want short range dps
>>491390380We need a lobotomized character for representation
>>491390810The primary flamethower? I'm sure the damage is fine but that thin underperforms even against bugs. The cookout is actually quite solid since the fire tick damage is very good, a single pellet kills a basic bot at any range very fast from the burn and you can slam all your pellets into a devestators face plate at close range while staggering them.
>>491390810No range means that supposed DPS is worthless
>>491391013Not before we have a down syndrome operator
please give me my airburst rifle back. its my favorite gun but just too shitty to use now, it needs it aoe back at least to be useful 9/10
steam://joinlobby/553850/109775241178706987/76561198070044660D10 bug
>>491391673I will not have hope or be hyped for anything Heckdudes related again. I was really hyped after first long cooked patch was excellent, then Alexus shat down my throat with Escalation of Shitdom.
>>491391673Eruptor with more AOE would be lovely. I sounds good and has enough damage. I don't enjoy the shit handling but I can live with it.
>>491391673ffs is their game such retarded spaghetti code that they can't just make shrapnel specifically for the eruptor?
>>4913918063/4
And here we go, so Alex lied like alwaysThere was never any bug killing chargers, they just had the gun shooting a fucking orbital
>>491390380>leglet controls robots to do the fighting for herOkay, that's not as retarded as I thought
>>491390380
>>491392057https://invadersfromplanet.space/helldivers-2/#scope=projectiles
>>491392057Remind that the damage and penetration of weapons is directly tied to the caliber. Their swedecode probably really doesn't let them easily make special shrapnel just for the eruptor.Knowing their 5000 IQ moves they're gonna buff the eruptor by giving it the shrapnel back but nerfing it and thus inadvertely nerfing the orbital airburst too
>>491391673>>491392170>eruptor shrapnel used the same values as Orbital Airbursts' 380mm-fired arm-length flechettesswiggers what the fuck? If you were going to piggyback a projectile to be lazy/realistic TM, why wouldn't you use the frag grenade splinters or even any of the shotgun pellets if you wanted it to be like preloaded canister shot? no wonder it was killing Helldivers if you got so much as tickled by one
>>491392057shrapnel only works for the grenades because you cant aim them for shit and they move before detonationshrapnel on an airburst will always make skill shots possible and thats something they dont want. the sad truth is they dont want skilled players to have an edge, everyone should suffer with the same slob. Thats the whole reason weapon handling is a thing at all
>>4913918064/4
>>491392316no damage is tied to the cartridge and nobody but their inherent lazyness stops them from just cloning a type and altering some values. thats the main difference between the gun variants
>>491392354Add to the fact that Orbital Airburst shrapnel is hardcoded to seek out Helldivers when possible.I saw orbital airbursts go out of the cluster to nail someone who was a teeny tiny bit too cloose.
>>491390380So does she actually appear in matches and deploys the robots or do you just spawn in as the robot directly?
>>491392174It's retarded and not yes.Having a wheelchair operator is retardedHaving them no in the actual field makes senseControlling robots? Well the idea of these robots is retarded. But then why did we need a wheelchair women character if it's actually the robots on the field? Obvious diversity points of course.So... it's gay and retarded, just not as retarded as it could be. But robots running around by themselves even without the wheelchair chick is still dumb.
>>491386315dude i'm starting to believe this theory>base game is extremely good>retarded internal politics and communication issues make it clear that it's a bad working environment>only people who stay are new people and people who can't get jobs anywhere else>company just gets worse and worse over time>game continues to get worse, good base becomes dogshit spaghetti
>>491392764It might be retardrd but having her in the field shooting people on her wheelchair would be 20 times more retarded
>>491392747I'm not quite sure desu. I don't think she is physically in the match, you probably see her in loadout and victory screens instead.
>>491392747she acts as the drone during prep phase
>>491392964>>491392747I don't play ubisoft games. Does that mean you can't shoot a cripple in the back of the head?
>>491392947yeah for sure>>491392964kek
>>491392261>3 named non-generic Shrapnel projectiles>they all have identical damage>two Heavy Shrapnels but both have the same velocity>no difference in AP either>spikeplant shrapnel does only marginally less than real shrapnel, but has higher caliber, velocity, and is made of fucking plantswiggers...>>491392725they fucking would make the Orbital Airburst projectiles heatseeking or 'smart' in some way because they decided the randomly generated battleship caliber AoE shotgun blast of all things needed extra targeting consistency, and then tie it to the MOMENT OF PROJECTILE GENERATION to be lazy instead of making the shell itself 'aim' or choke/widen the burst as needed or something
Guys, I haven't used an eagle stratagem on the bug front in over a month. Orbitals are just so superior that it feels awful to use eagles instead.
>>491393437Eagle Napalm.
>>491393437I use eagle airstrike pretty much constantly to destroy bugholes and to kill chargers. On bug breaches it's either airburst or a sentry. For bigger things it's OPS
>>491393437Eagle Airstrike, Eagle Napalm, 500KG are all amazing.I love making a warcrime build on bugs with napalm + fart gas>bug breach starts>uh oh>throw napalm directly at it>throw a stun nade to keep bugs in the AoE>throw fart gas>throw another stun nade for good measure>watch as kills go to +40
>>491394082You don't need the stun nades to wrack up that kill count, the little shits die plenty fast.
>>491391806fuck was too slow
>>491394172Its to keep the jumpy boys and bigger boys in there longer.They have a tendency to skitter out before the warcrimes begin.
>>491394269I suppose yeah. Just a pretty big resource investment.
Total Alexus employment termination
>>491394862Alexus will ruin the game and you can only watch, vidya cuck
>>491393124Unless you get to wheel her around outside and only control her robots with the ability key, no I don't think you'll be able to do that. As said earlier you probably just control one of the robots in place of the actual operator who will be hidden until the victory screensiege is dogshit slop and the only enjoyment you could get out of it after red crow was from griefing your way to copper 4 and you can't even do that anymoreHow on fucking earth does anyone find the willpower to play this ubishart nonsense anymore?
>>491395335Sunk cost/denialIt's happening in this game right now
>>491394862>sweden>firing somebodylmao even
>No lobbiesDead gameDead general
>>491395558My desire to play has reduced significantly ever since the liberation of the moon happened.
>>491395558steam://joinlobby/553850/109775241181164235/76561198126520852D10, bots, be there or be square.
>>491394862>implying you're allowed to fire anyone in sweden
tick tock addicts
>>491395802>Hug>The host has left the game
>>491396064>(you) left the gameI'm still here.
>>491396046Man I want to be a healslut in hd2 but the personal stims are too good.Maybe a bubbleshield gun would be fun
>>491395802full, game is alive!
>>491396046How about you faggots fix and balance what's in the game instead of fantasizing about nerfing stims?
>>491396772>>491396046You deal with so much bullshit, nerfed stims would be hell.
>>491396046i give it a month and a half until they nerf stims for some arbitrary reason.
>>491397490>fixed a bug where stims would heal the player for full health and restore all staminaYou just KNOW they will try to sneak it in as a bugfix just like the flamethrower nerf
>>491397490>out spreadshit shows a 100% use rate of stims during missions, we have to lower that somehow
>>491382232>anon implies you can have too much saltpile screechingSIGMAR BLESS THIS SHOT
>>491394997
>>491396064Too tight, bro
>>491396046Just make rep-gun overheal so you have a buffer.
>>491396046we notice players are using stims to heal through incoming damage, this is an unintended exploitto remedy this if the player receives damage while using a stim the health bar will stop filling where it is at the moment the player takes damagethis should fix the problem of players using stims in an unintended way. They're still totally viable though how does everyone react
>>491399390uuuhh that sounds like it makes the players stronger and gives them new gameplay options. rejected.
>>491399821>have you tried lowering the difficulty>stims healing is unrealistic>a gunshot should be deadly anyway>skill issue
>When you fire the crisper and run backwards, your diver can flip the gun mid-fire from their left over to their right side.>This causes the crisper to shoot out fire in front of you for a split second as you're running into it, igniting you.Fucking god dammit.
>>491399821>reddit seethes>/hdg/ seethes while people pretend to be retarded for (You)s while justifying it>discord is retarded
>>491399821Using too many stims should give you a heart attack
>Am unironically doing well with my crossbow, guard dog, crisper, quasar build.Now I wonder if I can figure out a good torcher build. We need a guard dog that has medium pen. At least then I could figure up some cursed build to run more light armour pen weapons.
>>491400043If you dive backwards with the flamer it ignites your foot. At least it used to. I haven't used it since the nerf
>D10>two tards just speedrun main objective>me and other guy are trying to actually clear nests>abandons us after main obj is done>no side objectives are done yet>they call in extraction>we're on the opposite side of the map>leave as we are trying to actually do shit>"ggs"I fucking hate this playerbase
>>491400535But doing only the main objective and extracting right afterward is the most efficient way to win D10 since you don't have to deal with as many enemies! :^)
>>491400314I don't think it would because it contains nanomachines which heal your tissues, that's how it fixes your broken limbs and hemorrhages
>>491400858stims are a super drug, nothing is fixed and your body simply tacked together by the outer armor shell
>Can use stims while in the pelican.>Wait until the Democracy Officer finishes his spiel at the end to make character scream out "I NEED STIMS".>Other player on the pelican sees my character's newfound crippling stims addiction and says "negative".lmao
>>491397908You really can't. I still wish they used these long fucking monologues he used to have as Zealot pre-release, they were amazing
>>491401073I'm pretty sure it's just meth and nanomachines
Does anyone know how many weeks between the last 2 warbonds?Just want to predict when the next one/next big update will drop since it's their new timeline, I think it was 8 weeks?
>>491402641Yeah so it was 8 weeks, october 17th will be when the next warbond releases, maybe a big balance patch will hit between now and then.
Hmmm today I will quickplay a D9 bug mission with randos to warm up.
>>491403253>no rocket powered turbo slug to launch at BTsngmi
>we got bajillion lil' bugs that jump around and rip off half your health>or if ur lucky you'll get the vomit fetish bugs with no weak spots>if you go to high difficulty it's chargers all the way through>we also added some bugs that can live without a head>oh and they can still hit you while headless>and they make up all squads that we spam on your position :-)>you'll get a special surprise bug breach>and then we'll throw in some BT's>and no, you can't hurt them with small arms fire :^)>so to help you we nerfed some main weapons to balance the game>can't be having too much fun now!>it's the challenge that makes the fun :^) (we can't make it past diff. 6)Think I'm ready to quit this game now
Update be like
ebin edition10 bugs on acamarsteam://joinlobby/553850/109775241186833598/
>>4914040532/4
>>491391806Two left, gg's. 2/4
>>491404481>>491404053tell me if you're still short otheriwse i am not closing my other funny game
>>491404053full, merged with other lobby
Is that guy who needed to unlock D10 and was having trouble completing a D9 operation still here?
The nerfs scared the normies off. Now I can finally enjoy the game.
Holy shit the crossbow is utter sewage.It BOUNCED off a warrior bug on trivial mission.Farming super credits and trying out weapons I never really use but holy fuck that thing is dogshit.
>>491406204yeah it's fucking pathetichilarious how it was nerfed into obscurity immediately after it was dropped
>>491405795masochistic autists with stockholm syndrome?
>>491406668Kino enthusiasts.
>>491406374it was worse than nerfed. It worked pretty well as a chaff-only grenade launcher without the ammo issues of the support GL and had a cool niche of its own. They fucking reworked it into whatever the hell it is today and utterly ruined it.
>>491406374Tried the purifier out too and holy shit that sucks balls too.Like whats the point of it when the scorcher does what it does but better.The +50 damage and medium pen is not worth having to charge EVERY shot.Like if it had 3 charge states it could be good but how it is now it's just a downgrade.>uncharged100 damage, smaller AoE, light armor pen>medium chargeThe same as what a full charge is now>full charge400 damage, bigger AoE, medium armor pen, uses 3 ammo to fire a full charge shot
>>491408285ITZ A STELFY WEPON. GOOD F'ER KRUMPIN' QUIET LIKE (Nots my cup'a DAKKA)
>>491408470Its as stealthy as the throwing knife, which if an enemy gets hit by, everyone in a 100m range gets alerted.
>they just lazily slapped on a fucking stratagem for a gun and then wonder why it broke>instead of changing the shrapnel to be more like the grenades they removed itHoly shit. These 2 CEOs just keep on giving. So transparent on everything its hilarious
Uhm.. Guys? You do realize the crossbow works ONE HANDED right?! That's freaking awesome! Personally I love the weapon and use it against bots and bugs all the time, it's completely viable! We should be more thankful for the awesome devs who do cool stuff like this!
>>491399821They already stealth changed this. You used to be able to stim-parry early game if you timed it right. Shit was so cash money.
>>491408610>He doesn't know about firing anglesIf you shoot toward enemies, with any weapon, no matter what, they get a "huh, what is blud wafflin' about" heads up. However, each weapon also has a noise profile that can alert them regardless (distance based iirc). As such, if you angle yourself properly with the crossbow, it is COMPLETELY silent in my experience. When ran with stealth armor, you can crawl into a base, shoot a clanker (hard r) from behind, and clean up.
>>491409058>me and my friends love to run quad crossbow on those 'find and kill the enemy hulk' missions, its a SUPER powerful weapon, it just requires a little coordination!
>>491409360 (me)to clarify, it's still steaming dogshit. But it does have logic to it.
>>491408887again I say>they used orbital/heavy shrapnel because that's all there is beside generic shrapnel and spike plants>this is used primarily by Orbital Airburst>it maybe evidently has some ability to seek or pre-aim onto targets in its cone, the choke warps based on what's in the airburst zone?>this is so less of the giant shotgun blast is wasted or something, smart shell whatever the fuck>put it on a 360 degree radial explosion gun unmodified, leave the stupid aim assist on because it's the same projectile type verbatim, not even cloned or modified>are surprised when the stealthily autoaimed 300 damage stratagem shrapnel becomes a heatseeking missile that domes the wielder and their squadmates constantly for instant kills every timefucking dumbasses
>>491382157>>491383980>>491383014Reminder
this is how it feels to play bots with /hdg/ after playing with random shitheads
Now that the dust has settled, what was his problem?
>people posting Pile>people believing Pile
>>491410092Typical Swedish arrogance. They make Anglos look humble
So many blackpills. So many doompills. Give me hope, Helldivers...
>>491410092lolsorandumb humorist with unspecified, non-development related job who engaged with the playerbase as if he was a player himself, the kind that blindly sucks off the dev studio
>>491410361do you still have fun when you play?
>>491410361absolutely not, anons and shazamniggers have completely reversed positions since launch where the former beat swiggers to death and the latter are scumsucking retard apologists who actively want the game to stay shit, and this status quo will continue until they redeem themselves with another at least moderately good patch
>>491410361you can still kill bugs and bots like you could when you first started playing.
>>491410361Alexus will die of old age if he doesn't get KyoAn'd first
>middle of a massive firefight, absolute chaos, low visibility>friendly fire as you desperately try to kill a heavy>guy rezzes and caps you so you're "even"
>>491410034this animation style makes them look like bionicles lmao
>>491382157>>491409863There's a reason Europeans are shit at software. Add in diversity hiring crap cause Sweden and I can't imagine how bad that code base is
>>491410092who?
>>491412001arrowhead's certified forklift operator for their surstromming warehouse
>>491406204I've come back after a break and I'm wondering why the RR randomly doesn't kill the spitters or armor faced bugs
>>491412359They have 650hpRR deals 649 damageYou deal +1 damage if you fire while moving forward
>>491412653I can't tell if this is a joke but I wouldn't put it past the SWEDEN YES devs
>>491412001AH dev that would arrogantly shit talk people for complaining about nerfs. I heard he got fired for it but idk.
>>491412894he certainly got kicked off the discord
>>491411769If it makes you feel better people with that personality usually end up married to some fat chicken that makes their life miserable
>>491412728its not, projectile velocity has some weird dmg interactions, moving backwards slightly decreases dmg and moving/diving foward increases. It's why in order to break a behemoth's leg armor you have to dive forward with a rocket launcher, most other cases it wont be enough. I think this is just the case with rocket launchers but idk for sure.
>>491392863Bonus points that both games are made on an outdated, EOS'd, piece of shit swiggerjank engine that nobody else uses so it's not like it even helps their careers to work there and learn how it works. Satisfactory is made by swiggers with unreal and they have no issues putting out new content and bugfixing. It may take a while but I can't ever once recall dreading a patch to Satisfactory the way I do Helldivers. Moreover, if there's going to be any big changes like resource node locations they do this amazing thing called "telling people ahead of time". As much as I want to paint every swigger with this brush it is possible, though seemingly the exception, to have ok devs.
>>491410092why did he got fired for?
>>491395802GGs
>>491413501antagonizing your customers is a generally poor idea
>>491395802
>>491414136how did he antagonize people? any pics?
>>491414671See >>491410092You slow or something?
>>491415060i asked because i dont see how thats antagonizing people, unless you are a fragile millennial who call something like "git gud" toxic
>>491345691if you're playing on 10 without anything that can deal with a tower, you're too retarded to clear
>>491369043Who gives a shit about the 3D model, especially in combat?I'd sure love to appreciate the details of said mag size if the shit planet I'm fighting on didn't have more than zero visibility while I'm running from a Behemoth that emerged from the fog like some mystical being, chasing my ass down while I'm all out of cooldowns.
>>491413501publishers are learning that being a dick head to your consumer base is a bad idea. Never shoot your mouth off before your brain is fully loaded, may cost you.
>>491378939Based.Fuck knife ears.
>>491371221diligence is lower calibre - pilestadt, probably
>>491408389It will oneshot scout striders to the dick if you hit the right spot, otherwise it isn’t great. Needs 30-50% charge time reduction to be good I think. Also better optic and less obstruction when charged
>>491415979in hindsight it IS funny that they put an attractive white female on the cover and chuddit/vpol started going ape shit and now they're practically begging for white women in games.
Do Impalers have a Schrödinger's hitbox like the Bile Titans? I've seen these things tank OPS sometimes and in my last mission, it tanked Commando rockets (4 to the butt by my teammate, 4 in the face) and still lived, while other times, one Commando salvo is more then enough to kill these fuckers.
It's kinda weird looking back seeing how many AH devs/discord mods were just pure faggots to players for no reason. Did HD2's surprise success give them all a power trip or something?
>>491416472>Did HD2's surprise success give them all a power trip or something?no, jannies who don't touch grass will always be homos. no matter the platform.
>>491416469I think they have a fair amount of animation jank. Like their big weakpoint is completely turned off as soon as they think about retracting their tentacles, and similarly it is completely turned on before you even realize its burrowing. So we're back to a BT head situation where half the population is certain they die to two headshots, while the other half have gotten fucked over by swedish hitbox nonsense and think it takes 6.
>>491416469supposedly they can be double hit if you sneak shots between their tentacles
the ?
Eagle strafing run is the best eagle stratagem. You can call it in close and wave at Eagle-1 as she flies by, and you can do this 5 times.
>>491383198>>Operations keeps failing because of lack of playersOperations are completely at the mercy of Joel's bullshit. Besides, player numbers don't really matter because they have this pants-on-head retarded system in place that the more players play, the less impact each individual misson has, which pretty much hard caps our progress, whether it's 10k or 1M players playing.This game has so many fucking retarded design decisions, it's baffling.
>>491417003I have seen that before actually. Just looks like a rendering bug. No idea what causes it.
>everyone keeps thinking the stealth nerfs, wack changes, and everything breaking is because of sabotage or someone pulling an inside job>in reality, its probably because Arrowhead doesn't have a private git or anything>every update is just them pushing the dev version to main>stealth nerfs is just someone's fucking around getting pushed to main by accident
>>491415979Player base deserved scorn though.
>>491417126i like eagle one's bone
>50% of the time, the game crashes every time !>every game, all teammates disconnect simultaneously multiple times >roll of the dice if you get infinite cinematic screen after evac or mission start When does it end, bros
Lobby?
>>491417003>crash midgame, rejoin>map shows all nests cleared even though the megabase isn't>go to extraction instead of asking if we cleared everythingthat was such a bad call from me, my badggs though
>>491418594Tier 6 hangar upgrade will be called "boneless wings" and they debone Eagle-1 to make more room for bombs.
>>491418239>>every update is just them pushing the dev version to mainThey probably have several version they keep working on parallel. That's why old bugs keep emerging because in that particular parallel version, it wasn't fixed yet.
>AMR vs AAC debateEnter.
>>491418361shit bro, can I get some free head next after you're done with arrowhead?
>you now remember the AA defenses modifierLiterally what were they thinking?
>take 4 reds>good guy teammate gives me a spare support weapon and backpackthis is my new meta
>>491420649>use your stratagems>modifiers gimp your stratagems accuracy or out right cucks you out of a slotswedes are schizophrenic
give me some planet ideas
>>491421610a big hole
>>491421610Crystal planet
What do we think about the tvtropes description of the flamethrower?>The FLAM-40 Flamethrower has seen a massive upgrade to its effectiveness since the last game and is now able to fulfill its intended purpose of a combination crowd control and area denial weapon by burning anything caught in its line of fire to a crisp very rapidly. Further upgrades from the Bridge can increase the fire damage value even more. While they used to be able to burn through armor directly, flamethrowers remain useful for killing chaff and melting chargers with careful aiming.
>>491421610Low gravity planet so ragdolls fling you even further for longer
>>491421610i like ice world. I can see bots and they contrast really well with the biome
>>491423446undoubtedly a tranny community manager wrote that shit for narrative control in a space they already inhabited
>>491421610cybertron looking biome for cyberstan
>>491423446the fucking weapon(s) doesn't have any stagger and it's wonky projectiles can't go through a chainlink fence. The weapon is completely flawed and is a shell of itself for the sake of new weapons that are equally as flawed and terrible. Nobody complained about the flamethrower being "overpowered" in it's strongest state and it was never once an option for every single problem.
Dead general
>>491424837I did complain.It was thanks to me that they killed the flammershitter.
Best strategems to deal with bile titans? Haven't played in a long while.
>The host has left the gameSWWWWWWWWWWWWWIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEERRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR
>>491425654500kg and OPS
>>491425654OPS
>>491425654orbital precision with max upgrades
>>491425801Had this happen where the host was the last one to get on the pelican but he wanted to take time to show off with a 500kg bomb explosion but he got hit with his own mortars and died on the pelican ramp so he just closed the game.
>>491418239Everything about the company is just utterly fucked. No clear vision of what the game is supposed to be, no internal communication between teams, absolutely no fucking version control whatsoever. They stumbled across the finish line by releasing the game and have been stubbornly crawling backwards ever since.
How much does your gpu get utilized with this game?I have a 3080Ti and it uses only about 30-40%. is this normal?
I wish this fucking swigger would just shut his fucking mouth, he's never going to do shit to unfuck what that fetal alcohol syndrome subhuman did.>>491427428I've got a regular 3080 and that's about where mine sits, it absolutely eats up my CPU though. I can't play longer than like 2 hours or 3 with the AC before I have to stop and let my coolant shed some heat. The highest I got was 60C coolant temp but that dropped to ~50C after I dusted out the fans and radiator. In fairness however it doesn't help that my tower is in a really shitty spot for air flow because there's nowhere else for it.
>return to ship alone>alone>someone starts talking in micwhat kind of horror bugs are lurking in swede spaghetti code that we dont know about
Daily reminder, Alexus is your Dark God. He will own this game like he owned Hello Neighbor 2. Rajeet and Pilestadt wont be able to stop him. TOTAL SERBIAN SUPREMACY! Only those who pray for MORE NERFS and MORE BROKEN BUGGY SHIT will be satisfied. Embrace the kino of "balance" join the prime-time 500 players online death cult today. THANK YOU FOR ANOTHER WONDERFUL FIX ALEXUS!!!
>>491427854>unironically thinking it was one guy On the other hand, everyone being completely complacent is even worse
>>491428084They were thinking almost everything on the backend was going to be handled through psn but as we all know thats not happening anymore so they threw together a quick and dirty solution but aren’t really good at doing those
>>491421610A gas giant
>>491429504>>unironically thinking it was one guyHe's just the public face of it. There's at least 2 other instances I can recall of AH devs being openly spiteful. Which really begs the question how many more share those thoughts behind closed doors?
>AH devs are the real chaosdivers
>>49143051650/50 split with Pilestedt being too ineffective a leader to rape the anti-player faction into the dirt and make them keep turning a profit
>>491430786This but unironically
>Teammate teamkills me for some reason>Get reinforced by someone nearby>Land my hellpod right on that guy, killing him instantly>He spams the request reinforcement button>Nobody reinforces himSucks for you pal. Learn who the enemies are.
This is the only game and general that didn't allow me to make new friends.I can't even find people from the "recently played with" window on steam.It's honestly sad.
>>491431506Can't relate. I don't think I've ever made a friend from a /vg/ general at all.
just quickplayed into this game with 33 minutes left and they only had 3 reinforcements remaining
new bread>>491432572>>491432572>>491432572
>>491431832Thanks, I'm glad I'm not a complete piece of shit like you.
>>491432672but we're not at page 10
>>491432672We aren’t even at bump limit you mong
>>491432672Retard
+1 to bump
>>491421610>urban + city enviromentFrom skyscrapers, stores, factories, apartments to neighborhoods, mansions to lush green hills. Every building worn down, remnants of conflict, civilian bodies littering the streets rotting, bloodied or skeletonized. Small hints that it was actually super earth that massacred civilians and the bugs/bots just moved in.>garbage planetTrash everywhere, trash filled rivers/bodies of water, radioactive dumping sites with radioactive water that hurts to be near. Basically India planet.
steam://joinlobby/553850/109775241207347073/10 bot joongle
>>4914344012/4
>>4914344013/4
>>491434401oh shit i have a moon op 3/4 GET THE FUCK IN HERE youve got 3 minutes til im launchin
4/4
>>491432757The secret is not playing with people from /vg/
When they come for me, I'll be sitting in my mechSentry by my side, a cape around my neck! Singing"My, my, my, how the time does fly, when you know you're gonnadie by the end of the night."
>>491431506No one sends me friend requests so I have no idea what's on that social menu or how it even works
>>491345309>Flamethrower gets nerfed>Start seeing people using the Laser Cannon as a replacement Can’t wait for this to get nerfed next
>>491432672>dedGet shat on, bitch.
>>491437375>railgun is strong because of a bug>nerf it instead of fixing the bug>arcthrower is strong because of a bug>nerf it instead of fixing the bug>flamethrower is strong because of a bug>fix the bug and...nerf it anyway?>and the "fix" created an even worse bug where the charger weak spot is now just immune to damage
I want squad-level strategems that require all 4 players to input a key sequence to activite, like a orbital obliteration strategem that is like 380mm barrage but from all 4 destroyers at the same time over an area twice the size. Usable once per mission
>>491438317Give me that good Peacewalker shit with the 4 piece super coop weapon. Bonus points, if they add a super coop shout out while firinghttps://youtu.be/uJXlgWp9Kcs
>>491438317it would be cool if you could either allocate upgrades pre-mission to specific strategems or types of strategems, or strategems thrown in tandem with other players became stronger versions cooperating between destroyersI want to see 2-3 orbital gatling barrages become an orbital gatling saturation attack
Sneeddiver status?
>>491438963Chucked
>>491438067nta but you're a faggotIt's time for new bread
Why do the Helldivers have a PDA if they operate all comms via the embedded PDA on their left arms?
>>491440228angry birds, embedded pda is for running DOOM.
>>491417126Based
>>491417126extremely based.
>>491437375It'll be autocannon next.>>491438137>believing the bug cope arrowhead is using to try and justify themselves.
>>491437375Laser Cannon is pretty underrated to be honest, it isn't a godlike weapon that'll solo clear everything for you but it is very versatile.>"infinite" ammo chaff clear>can destroy objectives on bug front like spore spewers and shrieker nests>can chip away at chargers/titans/impliers and burn DoT them in a pinch>can kill hulks, gunship and other armored enemies on bot front>decapitates bots as if they were made of butterHonestly as long as you have stratagems to deal with heavy armor like bile titans the laser cannon will cover almost everything else.
>>491434401Crashed, ggs
>>491434401now ve do ze joongle 3/4
>>491443693>bug frontaint no way>bot fronthell yeahi prefer the rg to it but it's an extremely solid alternative, if they ever fix the way it'll permanently replace the AMR's slot in my heart
>>491443693I like running it for bots. Isn’t amazing against the new rocket striders but holds up on pretty much everything else. Stuns are more or less mandatory and shield pack really helps it since you have to expose yourself fairly long and it doesn’t do stagger or anything. Used to pair with PP for scout striders but those are extinct so now it’s sickle or dominator
>>4914439614/4
>>491436613quit butchering streetlight manifesto you fuckwit
>Eliminate Terminid swarm mission>Both my OPS and my 500kgs are on cooldown>Bile Titan spawns, both sacs get popped>It chases down one teammate in an Emancipator, steps on it and destroys it>I reinforce him>Watch the Titan then turn to my second teammate, in a Patriot, and do the same thing>Reinforce him>Titan then turns around and steps on the Tesla Tower>And THEN it bleeds out and dies
>>491443693On bugs I've been running:BlitzerLaser CannonLaser RoverEAT/OPSConsistently get the most kills every mission, it handles heavies decently up to D7 without needing help from team mates. You just have to lean into bug patrol clearing and bug breaches to get the most DPS. If there are too many heavies however you have to run away. The rover is a bit of a meme pick, could go with another orbital or eagle instead, I just like the aesthetics.On bots I switch blitzer for the scythe and EAT for walking barrage. It's easier to snipe devastator heads with it than the cannon. Aim for head with laser cannon on beserkers, it melts their heads fast. Other strategems can be whatever.
>>491444038>Isn’t amazing against the new rocket stridersShoot the leg joints they pop off in about a second.
>>491443001Autocannon is safe. Arrowhead balances things via spreadsheets. And outside of /hdg/ lobbies AC users are actually a bit of a rarity. AC's pick rate should be well below things like AMR, HMG and LC. People really like their running reload and backpacks.
>>491432672literally me
>>491444643I do that when I’m able to I just often find you don’t have a clear shot on it if you’re trying to hold the sort of positions against them that prevents them having good rocket angles on you
they've finally nerfed SC farming. in the last 10 planets ive been to ive only found 40 sc total.it's so over
>>491400403Alright. This build works in D10s: Torcher, Grenade Pistol, GDog, Quasar. Brood Commanders are a case of "burn + melee away + have GDog line up its headshots and kill it." Hive Guards die to grenade pistol, or M1 if you get behind them anyway. Spewers are the worst matchup, but grenade pistol can pop some of them at least. GDog absolutely minces chaff, and by the time it runs out of ammo you will normally have ressuply up so you've got near 100% uptime. If not, you hit up a PoI or an outpost that has ammo bricks, and if not even at that point GDog stratagem should have come off CD so you can just call in a new one for more ammo that way. People are sleeping on the ballistic doggo because of its downtime and ammo, but it kills shit in faster bursts than rover does while also in 95% of cases not inflicting FF damage.
>>491445164It takes Arrow head 2 billion days to make a warbond anon, they only add to the super store when those bonds drop as wellYou will have enough for the next 7 warbonds by then
>>491367718>BoogsTenderizer/Punisher, Verdict, stunsRecoiless, OPS, orbital gatling, 120mm/MG turret>BootsTenderizer/DCS, Verdict, Smokes/Thermites (usually smokes)Spear, OPS, Walking Barrage, HMG Turret
>>491403253BRRRRRRRRT
>>491367718D10BugsTrailblazerOPSORSEagle 500kgSpearDominatorNade PistolStun NadeBotsTrailblazerEagle ASOPS180 mmACScorcherNade PistolStun Nade2 Playstyles: Backline Anti-Armor Support if in a group or objective sniping if by yourself.Swap out OPS and other Orbital Support if scattering is in effect. Hi-Priority Evacs use a different loadout.
>>491448756Why do you need both a grenade pistol and AC? Its redundant. Should take a different pistol.
>>491447392but I still need viper commando and chaosdiver warbonds :(which should I go for first? peak physique looks alright but so does fire punisher
>>491367718>bugHeavy servo.Firebreaker.Nade pistolStuns.Eagle NapalmOPS120Wildcard, depending on team strats and mission. I'll leech pretty much any support from my team unless they're all taking airbursts for some godforsaken reason.>botsHeavy fortifiedJARNade pistolStunsEASWalking barrageHMG emplacement (works extremely well in combination with other HMG emplacements, if I'm the only one I'll usually just pack OPS)RGThis shit works for me every time. My bugs loadout pretty much guarantees I get 700+ kills whenever I play. The bots loadout isn't as meta, but I've yet to play a build that fits me as well as it does. Nothing else feels as good as instakilling hulks, striders, and popping turrets from the front after loading their heatsinks with JAR ammunition.
>>491449171Fire punisher is neat but not noteworthy, peak physique is far more useful but also not too important because you can just buy the peak physique armor that appears on rotation in the super store. However Experimental Infusion booster is insanely good so it might be worth a pickup just for that.
>>491449171viper commando for sure, the super meth booster is incredible and PP armour is some of the best .The Carbine is usable enough and the bushwacker is an excellent CQB tool, especially when set to triple shot. Knives are of course a meme.Freedoms Flame is literally the Cookout and nothing else until they fix Fire as a whole. The Booster is comes with is literally for greifing.
>>491448982Ya you are right. The nade pistol is mostly to deal with devastators when I forget to reload the AC.
What is /hdg/'s opinion on the grenade launcher?
>>491351646>throw down emplacement beacon>game flips a coin whether or not the surface I threw it at is not allowed and bounces the beacon 20 meters to the side, leaving it in a useless position
>>491449424>>491449527I definitely need the infusion and I forgot about the bushwacker. is peak physique only good if you're using heavy weapons or does it make a noticeable difference with everything? is it more useful than recoil reduction?
>>491449940Anti-spewer weapon.
>>491351646You need to be EXTREMELY aware of what's around you when you use it. Two rocket devastators can destroy it, killing you. One bruiser hulk can do the same. ONE rocket strider can kill you. You can get sniped by annihilator cannons from cannon towers, annihilator tanks, or factory striders. But when you can use it, it's used really well.
>>491449940>Branch falls in front of you>Die>Grenade bounces off because you aren't perfectly perpendicular to a penetrable target>Die>Corpse is on the way>DieUseless, proto-Airburst, knock-off AC for retard children
>>491450052>is it more useful than recoil reduction?It provides very slight recoil reduction because the handling of a firearm also affects the reset time between shots. It's also notably impactful on the Spray&Pray, EAT/Commando, DCS, Slugger, and HMG/AC. It does however provide benefits to *all* weapons but most handle well enough that it's functionally instant already so making it more responsive doesn't do anything other than speed up reset time between shots.
>>491449940>god tier against spewers>god tier against chargers>mid-worthles against everything elseYou can fill its niche and then some with the MMG.
>>491449940Needs another belt to be a competitive pick but otherwise functions good enough for most scenarios.
Fucking incredible how bots are back to release-state with instant-death rockets and heavy devs two-tapping you in the head from inside the fog
>>491449940It performs okay but could still use a lot of improvement.1. The splash radius could use an improvement. It has a smaller radius than tossable grenades, which reduces its crowd control potential. Unless you're firing into a Bug Breach, you're not going to get that many kills per shot.2. The accuracy sucks. The crosshair jumps all over the place even while standing still, making it hard to put grenades where you want them. This point is arguable since it's a fucking grenade launcher and accuracy isn't a major concern, but not being able to land long-range grenades forces you to get a lot closer to enemies to ensure a hit.3. As everyone always complains, it doesn't have enough magazines. Two spare mags, ten grenades per mag, you have a maximum potential of 30 grenades. Theoretically 30 grenades lets you wreck a lot of shit, but each individual grenade never feels as effective as the ones you're able to toss, so one magazine doesn't go as far as one would expect. You're basically forced to bring a Supply Pack just to ensure this thing is useful.
>>491449940Abusive boyfriend: the weapon.
>>491450052So it effects everything and makes an interesting point of control versus recoil.PP armour lets you take slow firing/precision weapons and whip them from target to targetRecoil armour lets you stay on target more but you still need to wave your gun around. This can be circumvented by just stopping aiming then moving your entire helldiver in the right direction and spot.I think i preferring PP more than Recoil BUT Recoil often comes with more grenades or explosion resist
>>491450758>The splash radius could use an improvementI'm not saying I disagree but improving it too much runs the risk of completely invalidating the airburst launcher. Not that I'm also saying that invalidating the airburst launcher is a bad thing either.
>>491450389>god tier against chargersuwot?
>>491450917They broke it against chargers last major patch and it 3? shots them now if im not misremembering.
>>491450884It was assumed we were discussing these changes in a vacuum. I think literally everybody agrees that Airburst Launcher needs even more buffs and fixes than the Grenade Launcher.
>>491450917fastest TTK on chargers apart from commando, just takes 3 shots and it bleeds outonce you learn the arcs/recoil/arm time (way too much fucking work honestly when you can pop a charger's ass in half an incelbreaker clip), it's second to nothing in terms of anti-charger abilityIF IMPALERS DIDN'T HAVE THEIR OWN STUPID FUCKING HEAD INVINCIBILITY GLITCH it'd also be amazing against them, but it's much harder to pop impaler heads when they take zero damage from direct hits half the time
>>491451205At the point I think making annoying enemies immortal is just a feature, not a glitch
>>491451205Yeah but you still have to wait for it to barrel past you so you can pop its ass.>inb4 just shoot under itNot consistent and generally impossible on a lot of terrain.
>>491434401
>>491451531>mfw I sneak damage = damage * randint(0, 1) in the damage function
>>491452290On one hand its really fucking stupid that this can happen, but its also impressive how you can still climb up onto the pelican and jump in the extract even when its upside down.
>>491452290
>>491452452Wait nevermind lol, I just saw M1 get ragdolled when he tried., fucking AH.
I say we kill swiggers.
>>491452662M1 didnt walk all the way up the belly, he climbed on the wing and then went inside. for it to proc like you extracted and zap you into the seat you have to go up the belly until you touch the underside of the ramp.
It's time to nerf the AC, 4 AC wins every mission, no reason to take anything else
>>491452576ok last one. I almost want to play quickplay to grief pelican like this.
I'm pretty excited for the EOF update to reveal what "more" they haven't shown off yet! A hot new warbond, new super bases with SUPER rewards, and some dangerous new enemies... What comes next must be epic! They did say there was more coming and they haven't revealed everything... Right?
>>491367718AutocannonEagle airstrikeOrbital precision strikeOrbital railcannon strike>b-bots or bugs?Yes.
>>491453309>expansion of freedom update>EOF>freedom == sovereignty>EOS >end of service updatesaars... it's over
>>491453610>Orbital railcannon strike
>>491454476nothing wrong with railcannon
>>491454712>filename
>throw OPS at tankit phases through the heavy metal tank armor and procs from inside the tank, which takes no notice and gets explode>throw OPS at the >implierit bounces off its fleshy bug face and lands 20 meters away, the implier nooootices you, retracts its tentacles and launches you back onto your destroyerat least give me some consistency with your jank, swede
>>491454712welcome to d4 my friend.
>3 minutes and 30 second cool down for a single target stratagem that might not even kill a hulk or charger>might target the berserker next to your team mate, 30 meters from your intended target, and send them into the shadow realmNo, thank you.
>>491455073railcannon is extremely common on d10, what with being indisputably S tier and second only to OPS as far as orbitals go
>>491456168>as far as orbitals goYeah but all orbitals are pretty trash compared to the eagle.
>>491455984380mm HE has a 240 second cooldown despite having no use case, yet you do not complain about it. Why is that?
>>491454712except its huge cooldown and tendency to be ineffective against BT or inexplicably veer off course to an unintended target, meaning you didnt get a kill and now you have to wait 179 seconds minimum to maybe miss a kill again. you can throw 2 OPS in the time it takes for ORC to cooldown, and they have a wider blast radius so ORC is kinda redundantits only saving grace is you can chuck it from 100m away and maybe kill a BT on the horizon
>>491456351But that's not true. With how powerful OPS is now, Eagle is extremely skippable apart from airstrike. Cluster and strafing run apologists are morons, napalm does about half the damage it should, same goes for 110mm rocket pods, smoke is pointless unless you do stealth solo runs. 500kg is decent but OPS does near 100% of its workload with better ease of use and immunity to AA.
>>491456552I don't mind the cooldown. BTs are so rare now that the few which do show up immediately get showered in massive aoe and Spear missiles. If they survive that I can just AC spam them to death. Railcannon's best use on the bug side is against spore chargers. Nobody will complain if you instakill a brapper. On the bot side it trivializes barrager tanks because it circumvents their massive explosive resistance and lack of weakpoints. I miss it every time I skip it in favor of something lower CD.
>>491449940>ABSOLUTELY obliterates spewers (gigabased)>3 taps Chargers from the back or front>2-3 taps Guards and Commanders>clears chaffTerrible ammo pool, but other than that it's really good
>>491456651I like 110mm rocket pods cause I can take out up to three tanks, cannon towers, or bot factories in quick succession. Works 90% of the time, occasionally I get those dud rocket pods that do nothing though.
>>491454712Besides the fact it will target dropships, has no aoe and has a huge cooldown.
>>491457579If it hits the wrong target you have no-one to blame but yourself. The other points you mentioned do not detract from the massive utility it has. Also if a railcannon user is even tempted to rc a hulk you should bring more AMRs and ACs. Drop that silly pea shooter, it's trash.
>>491456651Cluster bomb is good for d7 and below because it can clear a lot of chaff and can kill the scout striders. Eagle strafing run it decent on d8 and above because it can kill or at least weaken armored scout striders and other medium armored enemies. Plus I like the eagle strafing run when I play d10, because of the previous reason, that I get 5 of them, and I can call them in next to my teammates without worry. I got hit by a rocket one time and fumbled my strafing run pokeball while next to all my teammatea, and it didn't matter cause the strafe just went in a random direction and hit no one. At most it would have killed 1 person, unlike if I had the cluster bomb.
>>491456371Because we're talking about the orbital rail strike.
>>491456651I take both OPS and 500kg because they effectively do the same thing so it's like having 3 OPS in a row. Also the 500kg is better for groups, OPS hits narrower and is thus better for precise fuck you deletions.
>>491457886>dont use RC against hulksTanks are either to uncommon or to common for RC to be worth taking.RC cant 1 shot factory striders so its not worth using for them. So what do you use it for that ops,eagle AS, eagle 500kg, eagle 110s, commando and EAT dont do better? At this point im pretty sure eagle strafing run can kill more heavies per minute than the RC.
>>491458731>OPS hits narrower.Only the unupgraded version does. With the module buff I get clipped by the AoE more than I did from 500s before I stopped using them because they were dogshit.
>>491459464I have all ship modules unlocked and I've died to misjudging the 500kg's radius far more than the OPS'.
>>491458230I'm gonna bring strafing run more. Shit kills tanks and I forgot about it. Also more interesting instead of bringing eagle air strike every time.
>>491460384Good luck on becoming a strafing run enjoyer, dont forget to wave at Eagle-1.
>>491460384Interesting thing about Strafing Run: if the path connects directly across a dropship, that is to say it lines up with the 'bow' and 'stern', it can slice it in half. Plus if it hits zerkers during the drop animation it causes them to bug out and not move.
>Gacrux liberatedFUCKI want my swamp back
>>491460752bro your tarsh?
You just know it's gonna be >50 common samples: Zoom increase (can't be reverted)>200 rares: max ammo upgrade (+1 mag)>100 supers: Eagle-1 pinup weapon camo
>>491461480So they are going to do weapon/strat upgrades with samples?
>>491459039Every stratagem you named, with 5he exclusion of rocket pods which I hate reliability wise - requires at least some calldown time and aim. Railcannon on the other hand can be thrown at the rough vicinity of a tank or turret the moment you see it and it's dealt with. If you never feel the need to deal with an enemy instantaneously I guess you have no use for it.
>18 days since fire warbond>still no orbital napalm
>>491461480>Eagle-1 pinup weapon camoIf they do this i might forgive sweden.
>>491461743This anon is too impatient to wait the literal seconds for an OPS to drop, ADHDiving must be a hell of a thing
Strange, the lower the population count gets, the better the game is. Almost like all the shitters are dropping off, leaving only veterans who actually know how to play. Was AH right all along?
>>491461743Its far from instant and anyone playing d10 shouldnt struggle with "aiming" the big aoe bombs. 110s might be inconsistent but you get 3 of them letting you kill atleast 1 if not more heavies on a similair cooldown.
>>491461743I'd rather wait the 2 seconds and get to use it more since the things I want to OPS or rail don't move. Tanks, detector tower (can you even rail strike that?), turrets, striders, fabricators sometimes.The only thing to use it for would be purely turret deletion at range from the front because landing OPS directly on it is a skill issue.
>>491461937I only get matched to lvl 30 noobs nowadays, even on high dif
The results are in.The blitzer is cool and good, but slow fire-rate and inconsistent targeting at close range and a low max range makes it subpar.Damn shame.
>>491460904>bots*spits*
>>491461937Every game I join has people crashing out, and objectives not working. Last game is was the nuke drill not able to be called down.Most people I've joined today are under level 50. Don't think the game is better, but still fun enough. Wish they'd fix the bugs properly.Fucking stim sound still playing when flinched out of it.
>>491461871>>491462282Like I said before, I use OPS. But there's no reason not to also use railcannon.
>>491462621The stim sound bug is pain but worse is the sound of racking the bolt on a reload, switching, switching back and the bolt didnt rack so you need to do it again. I dont even know if its a bug or not but it infuriates me endlessly.
I'm a level 15 shitter, can I still play with you guys?
>>491462847Both of these things send me into a rage. Just fuckin' fix it fix it fix it.
So when is the next cooking patch coming out? another 6 weeks?
>>491462847Fucking this. I can't pinpoint when this bug got introduced but its complete asscheeks. >insert fresh mag>rack bolt>huh that's funny why didn't it reload>hit R again>lose a fresh mag for no reason
>>491462639That just means its your free slot stratagem that you bring becouse you enjoy it. You could bring strafing or 380 in your free slot but that doesnt make them good.
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>>491462639Might bring it sometimes for the sake of it if we had 5 slots to work with, but no way I'm taking it on a 4th.
