>Fatal Fury: City of the Wolves launches April 24, 2025https://youtu.be/lHjjlpCoBOQ>FF:CotW - Maihttps://youtu.be/RoLli5LBE-4https://youtu.be/FRgsu-Cn5fs>SVC Chaos: SNK vs Capcom rereleasedhttps://youtu.be/JqjMpn6JrYQhttps://store.steampowered.com/app/2442380/SNK_VS_CAPCOM_SVC_CHAOS/>KOFXV - Mature & Vicehttps://youtu.be/N6aExKgRs9c>Terry in Street Fighter 6https://youtu.be/PDPhkX2oMmQ>Recent event footage:https://youtu.be/ctdSK9ps0M0>DandyJ's beginner guide to KOFhttps://youtu.be/Ye3KVgI1LvU>Community resourceshttp://dreamcancel.com/how-to-play/>KOFXV beginner guideshttps://youtu.be/t-mYZnOFxlghttps://youtu.be/cqTpKMethDo>/neog/ Discordhttps://discord.gg/HYAQYFh>Official SNK Discordhttps://discord.gg/SNK>SNK Media Galleryhttps://pastebin.com/R7uX3B5J>Assorted Translationshttps://kof.eu5.org/>NEO-GEO FREAK Magazine Archivehttps://archive.org/details/@japanesemagazinesscans?sort=titleSorter&&and[]=subject%3A%22neo_geo_freak%22>RedGGPO and romsethttps://redggpo.com/https://archive.org/details/2020_01_06_fbn>KOF Official Site backuphttps://drive.google.com/file/d/1n98CoBR6GPywr3kzyydNCT5UHTwMNW51/viewPrevious Thread: >>491289426
Which cut design do you like the most?
Best XV mods?
>>491694809Like I said, continue with this garbage formatting (like you have done with this thread as well) and I will make new threads without the info.
>>491694836nomai is just a whore, just like all women
>>491695096Kuan aside, people seem to think the biggest loss was big nig in the fur coat. The Garou 2 concept art made by the Streets of Rage 4 team used him, even.
>>491695330Unironically looks dope. We need more big bodies in the cast.
>>491695330>people seem to think the biggest loss was big nig in the fur coat.but he isn't that dimes lookinghe just looks like a buffer simon phoenix
>>491695248That's a you problem, my friend. The formatting as I see it doesn't have all those excess embeds or extra characters.
>>491695538I have formatted many general threads across many boards. It is only you who causes this shit. Sort out your formatting otherwise your opening post info will be discarded.
>>491695248retarded shitposter
https://www.kof30th.com/en/
>>491695750Offer an alternative, then, that doesn't include "lol delete everything" and doesn't explain yourself, because this act of yours is going to get real old real quick if you're not providing anything concrete to work with.
>>491695750And we'll report and ignore your shit threads like the last one
>>491695916>open pageFUCKING TERRY BOGARD IN THE CENTER OF THE MAIN BANNERI'm getting tired of him
>>491695916OH SHIT KOFXI WHAT
>>491695264>andy is just a whore, just like all men
>>491696120
>>491696341>Ralf but no ClarkWhy do they hate my boy?
>>491696120Calm down. Kyo is in the logo.
>>491696120Center is Kyo on the logo.Terry is the protagonist of the first King of FIghters game anyway.
So what are you betting on?>KoF XI steam port>94/95 UM(?)>XIII steam port with rollback>Essentially nothing
>>491696341>not a single XIV or XV character in the picturekek
>>491696727>Terry is the protagonist of the first King of FIghters game anyway.Hold on dweebenheimer
>>491694809tummy
>>491697061This is, in fact, the first time Mai has shown off her tummy in an official outfit. Every other outfit she's worn has an obi to cover her belly and tie her outfit together. I guess they took the KOFXIII Leona school of thought and went "just invert whatever she shows off in her usual costume".
>>491695916Lot of coming soons on there
>>491696341WHERE THE FUCK IS CLARKHE'S AN IKARI WARRIOR
>30 announcements, a lot is just shitty wallpapers and KOF history for the 300th time>They're putting out only one every weekWhy can't they be normal?
It's fucking nothing
>>491697824because they're a genetic freakyou see normally if you was to go one on one you got a 50/50 chance a winnin
>>491697295Sounds pretty based.
To be honest, the funniest part is that they didn't even make a new art piece, they just slapped a bunch of pre-existing renders around a logo.
>>491696970Kinda funny considering Billy is bottom tier in KOF15.
>>491696120I'm pretty sure SNK would have loved to put Terry on that logo instead of Kyo but they're afraid of being accused of trying to erase KOF's legacy in favor of CoTW.
>>491698673dude is washed upalso he was never the same once they gavehis stick a hurtbox, he was carried
>>491699185They should've done it desu. The shitstorm would've been hilarious.
>>491696341>BTFO of your favorite character
>>491698650it takes 50 years for them to make a new artpiece and they are too busy with cotw to make one, art development is nonlinear and it's a miracle they even acknowledged the anniversary
>>491700275Still never coming back
>>491623389It's not just the tail whip attack, though again that was the most obvious omission in the trailer. So many of Mai's animations look cool in my opinion because of how her outfit flows with her movements and attacks. It's my favorite thing about her design and why I think it's peak (and not just because of boob and skin exposure) and suspect why they rarely change it.The COTW design simply won't have that naturally which is a shame.
>>491700275All my favorites are there
>>491701031It feels oddly neglectful to exclude the tail at all. Like wearing pants is one thing but not having the tail is why makes me feel like they either forgot what makes Mai Mai or intentionally tried to get away with such a radically different design for the sake of emphasizing something about the outfit
Just found out that the RBS for the genesis romhack got cancelled, that sucks.
>>491701031Agreed, even though I really like the new design, the lack of the tail was the first thing I thought of. Thing is, I really don't know what they could have done, the only thing I can think of that could work would be some other piece of cloth wrapped around or hanging by her pants.
>>491701031Your opinion is dog shit
>>491702267Huh? Wasn't that out already?
>>491703636I mean, the latest build is basically a finished product, but they won't be adding the stuff they planned to.
>>491696815XI isn't happening, which sucks because it's my favorite, but supposedly the arcade source code was lost and the PS2 version has Sony's code in it or something, so any future release would be PS exclusive and might have some compromises due to being based on that version (idk if it would have to be emulated or not or if there might be something else).XIUM with fixed versions of the PS2 characters, stun removed or tag combos adjusted, and Rock added would probably be my favorite game altogether.
Watching people expect a collection or rerelease was like knowing what would happen on 9/11.
>>491705625SNK fans are always this stupid? Why did they think SNK would make a port when they couldn't even make a commemorative illustration? It's already a miracle that they made a new logo with Kyo on it.
>>491695916>>491696341The thing I'm more curious about is if SNK will actually acknowledge and include K9999 in the art they promise or if he will remain REDACTED
Happy 30th anniversary KoFbros!>>491696120Happy 30th anniversary Kyobro.
>>491695916>Sports team
>>491696120Are you okay?
>>491706373When Krohnen was announced, KK admitted SNK no longer legally allowed to acknowledge K9999 was just them playing the long con.
Happy 30th anniversary KOF
>>491708009And yet they still don't use any of the 01 or 02 promotional art with him present on the official KOF site and all gachas have outright replaced 02 with UM (but for 98 they use vanilla, no UM)
Out of the original teams in '94 which is your favorite?https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HOpZJZE0UR4https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SaEbn2F2XOc
>>491708310Fatal Fury, natch
>>491708310Favorite team: FFFavorite stage: England, shout out to the cute NPC girl with the hat sitting by the monument on the right of the stage.
>>491708010MILK TRUCK JUST ARRIVE
>>491709514
>>491708201The fact that they CAN use K9999, doesn't mean that they WOULD.Stolen design is still a SHAMEFUR DISPLAY, so they'll keep dancing around it, at least until the leadership of SNK changes and decides that it would print them money or something.
>>491708201>>491711310They've decided that Krohnen "K9999 was my slave name" McDougall is worth engaging with instead of the original K9999.
>>491711310See, that is exactly my point. If the whole thing was just a DECADES long joke, the logical course of action is "Now that the cat is out of the bag, let's cash on it and put the guy on everything that makes us more money"
K' himself should pick out a proper name. Nobody says the "Dash" part anyways. And also It's stupid.
>>491712757I doI bet you're one of those retards who says "Kay Prime"
>>491712757>>491713553I call him Kazuelas
WE WANT HIM BACK!
>>491712757That would be character development, putting his past behind, and K' can't have that.
"naamenjaneezo!"*goes back to sulking*
How the fuck do you pronounce Ж'?
>>491714778Zhe Prime or Zhe Dash or "little man with big dick shrugging"
>>491714778It's the uppercase Greek letter Zhe, so Nameless's original NESTS name is "Zhe Prime".
>>491714778https://youtu.be/wxzU4Lkma-A?si=uzL5m5Q-8o7x2_1z&t=26
>>491715363Cyrillic, not Greek.
>>491715363I was reading Ureshino's blog and it cracked me up that he was originally given just the story outline of Nameless while Hiroaki was in charge of designing them. So with only the outline, Ureshino immediately pictured Isolde as a sexy sci-fi nurse and wrote the scenes accordingly so he was embarrassed when Hiroaki delivered the designs.
>>491715983>One of the first subjects in the Anti-K' Project>Fell in love with Nameless, their love made them stronger and survive the experiments>Died during testing, DNA was used to build Nameless's super glove>Kula is a dead ringer for herShould they have done more with her?
>>491716383It doesn't really matter since it's just a dream match, but if some day they bring them to a canon game which I doubt, they could expand their story a little bit
>>491716383They should, but they never would, like with so many other characters. Pretty much everyone from NESTS era was turned into a joke cause they can't or won't do a plot that isn't just current hero saving the world in three scenes, even Krohnen's kidnapping scheme was pointless.
>>491717114"""kidnapping"""
>>491716383Absolutely.Since now they are no longer restricted by just having to replicate K9999's moveset, they could do cool stuff with them, either by bringing her back and turn them into dual characters ala Banjo Kazooie in Smash, being able to swap them to access different moves or have one of them act as the other's assist like Videl and Gohan in Fighterz.Story-wise, it would be interesting to explore what exactly the Anti-k' program entailed and Nameless' feelings about Kula looking exactly like his dead girlfriend or if Isolde is back, make her interact with Kula and bond with her.
>>491717185Kula kidnapped Krohnen and Angel, so K' and Maxima can't do cool, manly stuff, and instead need to get bitched at by two women that would otherwise have no reason to appear. None of the villains are ever as cunning as Kula.
>>491717523It was K9999's first ever appearance since he went underground at the end of 2001, so Team K' and the Ikaris were taking zero chances with him; Kula being in his custody merely exacerbated matters.
>>491717114I liked Khronen's team ending. He just leaving with Angel was pretty cute.The problem with NESTS even though some of the characters are really popular like K' and Kula, is that their story pretty much ended and there isn't something like Orochi to make them important again, so they are kinda like the crossover characters from FF and AoF nowadays.
>>491717948Krohnen and Angel somehow taking the high road and pulling the "dude, get over it" card on Diana and Foxy when they returned Kula to them is just so sassy.
>>491717948I think XIV was trying to set up NESTS being relevant again such as Nelson having his new arm cause of them, Slyvie's background, Verse reviving Krizalid and Igniz. But XV pulled a 2001 on us where they rushed to finish this arc.
>>491718432All the other NESTS stories took a back seat because OH FUCK K9999 IS BACK THE THREE GLOVES ARE TOGETHER AGAINSylvie got to shine in her own way by building more confidence now that she has made friends with pretty much everyone in the tournament.
>>491717837I would rather he made his re-appearance by beating up either some biker gang or even Ikari soldiers that were trying to take him in, it would make him look more menacing than teasing people by hanging out with Kula. But I guess that would present a problem of who to give them as third team member.
>>491719325Funnily enough, that is precisely how he got introduced in his banner exclusive story in KOFAS
>>491718432>Verse reviving Krizalid and IgnizIf they are back they don't need be be on XV so they can set stuff up for it in another game. It would be a cluster fuck if every single villain was part of XV
30th anniversary news will finish the Dragon Power saga, trust the plan!
>>491662625Yeah, I hated that change too. So nonsense. T.O.P is much better. Fuck you, Oda.
>>491720779>you now remember boss mode with only two bossesRugal wasn't part of the main story, although he might make an appearance in the ending when M&V are released, so it's really less of a problem for the story (that is barebones anyway) or the game in total, and more that it would be extra work and expenses for them with models, special lines, etc.
>>491719827>15thFUCK OFF K'
>>491721149I wish...
>>491721197>hokutomaru calvo
You guys think Kula's pubes change color like her hair does when her powers activate/deactivate?
SOON
JENET NOOOO
>>491721731
>>491721197Wasn't it changed by the new guy that said it was because it's an evolution to the system and it doesn't work the same since it has new stuff?I'm starting to think the schizo is gay because of his obsession about Oda
>>491722051Yeah. They changed the name because SPG is TOP 2.0.
>>491721794Amazon press him.
>>491721850Fuck off Liz
>>491722671>no OswaldTry again
is there any chance the Samsho ARPG won't be another retarded souls-like slop?
>>491695096Boxer kid and Kuan.
>>491713775gesundheit
Billy and Mai gameplay when?
Happy 30th, lads.
>>491712757K-Dash sounds like a crappy hiphop boy band member name.
>>491697295But Leona showed belly in OG and post xiii tank tops.. albeit with a strap removed.It's her legs that went from uncovered to cover and her armpits and collarbones exposed from covered.
>>491727731She was showing off legs and no cleavage until she changed outfits in XIII. It's the same idea of changing costumes to show off the rest of what you've got.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6Yjdz-hD4YE
>>491695513He looks like a cornball, where are his boxing gloves? Black coded = boxer, simple as
>>491732348noone cares, jamalget new material
SOONhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hZcbZCxJMU4
>>491722671Kof15 will always be a failure for me because no Shen Woo
>>491722051>>491722168It doesn't matter if it's an evolution. They should have kept the name T.O.P. S.P.Gay name is as bad as the flame effect on the character when activated.
>>491719827What, there were 20th and 25th anniversaries too?>Ash in none of themFuck.
>>491737224No femboys allowed.
>>491695916>Release of Development Setting Documents for KOF Series>We’re unveiling rare and exclusive development materials—including original setting images, rough sketches, costume designs, and more.>Vanessa on the picMan, I really hope they'll show those concept arts that were in PS2 version of KOF 99 in higher quality. Unless I am retard and they already were shown somewhere else.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fsdfXpFzHVQ
>>491707109>two black americans on the teamGuaranteed SNK will never put them in a game again. They only put corny third world foreigner blacks in their games like Marco's goofy ass. Like Oda got his whole next game revolving around not-florida aka south town and we don't got one real FBA nigga on the roster but we got space for some goofball Brazilian do asian man shit. And you know they going to bring back Richard or Bob too becuz muh capoeira while Michael Max, an actual black american, stays the one character from FF1 that never got to return and we don't even got a boxer for this fucking game so it's literally the perfect time to bring him back.And I swear to god if SNK creates one more black character and have him doing asian shit or casting spells i'm going to fucking SCREAAAAAAAM.
>>491705146That only applies to the PS2 version. The OG XI is probably more of a Sega issue than anything
>>491739702Are you autistic?
>>491739702>we don't even got a boxer for this fucking game so it's literally the perfect time to bring him back.You mean it's the perfect time to bring Rick back since he's 1000x more popular than the literal who you're ranting on about.
>>491716383To the pressure...Everything's just like...An illusion. I'll be losing you...before long...
>>491739563Imagine if NESTS Kyo was wearing a full denim outfit the whole time.
>>491739702are you that faggot on twitter who runs around calling snk racist for not adding the american sports team
>>491739702Vox Reaper ain't black enough for ya?
>>491740220Popular to FUCKING WHO? The 15 miserable ass boomers that still play real bout on fightcade or the dick riders that like to meme on twitter but don't actually play shit?? Because in the real world the king of sound beach would 10x that bum's sales for DLC just off the strength of being a Mike Tyson clone alone. Like for fuck sakes, step out of your fucking SNK discord bubble man, no one outside the tiny snk diehards would give a fuck about that navajo tax sucking reservation baby returning but for an authentic Mike Tyson inspired boxer you would legit get ppl from outside of SNK to pay for that. Just the Rog heads from SF alone would bring in more sales than the minuscule amount of old heads that even remember real bout. Like what world are you niggas living in where you think Rick is that guy???Rick is the guy nerds tweet about to signal their SNK bona fides to other loser SNK nerds, he won't draw a fucking dime if he isn't the exclusive boxer of a game. On the other hand pushing the guy whose likeness is linked to arguably the most popular & memorable boxer of all time would have real mass appeal. Duffing with South town own Mike Tyson or duffing with some feather head, yeah it's a no brainer nigga.
>>491742098there's that narrative again
You are playing KoF94 this 30th birthday.Right?R-I-G-H-T?
>>491742749What narrative? Elaborate.
>>491742621>The 15 miserable ass boomers that still play real bout on fightcadeAlright this made me chuckle. You're still a schizo though.
>>491739563>Bao flip-flopped between boy and girl, then became fucking manly>Whip had Alita's head>Kyo CHAINED AND IMPRISONED IN THE NESTS CHAMBER AND BETRAYEDLmao.
>>491739563>PS2 version of KOF 99Retardbro...
>>491742621>Just the Rog heads from SF alone would bring in more salesNo, he would be called an uninspired ripoff like he was when FF1 came out.
>>491739702the idea that he's doing the holy trinity gesture is pretty funny
>>491746295He's straight up doing the Sign of the Cross. One of the only things we know for sure about Michael is that he's a Christian, if not a Catholic.
>>491742098Someone said he looks like Filipino Champ and I can't unsee it anymore
>>491746549yeah that's what i said, it's the holy trinity you say when you gesture itthe father, son, and holy ghost amen
>>491744515Maybe he meant NESTS Collection?
>>491742621Garou 2 was originally gonna have a twinky new boxer (looked suspiciously like Loran Cehack from Turn A Gundam), femboy twinks are in these days so maybe he'll show up
>>491742621Why are you like this?
>>491747148Fuck now I can't unsee it. Man they probably should have went with one of his old designs.
>>491748443Forgot pic
>>491748443>>491748647The devs did say Vox took much less iteration than Preecha to put together. The very opening statement on Vox's thesis was "Grant's disciple," and they settled on his final look very quickly.
>>491746060The million Bruce Lee clones in fighters seem to do alright.
>>491747418He's still a retard because that shit has been there since the PS1
>>491749430You sure about that? Feels like Marshall Law is the only one left. Maybe Liu Kang if you wanna stretch it
>>491750503>Dragon from World Heroes >Fei-Long from SF>Law from Tekken >Liu Kang from MK>Jan Lee DOAThose are the only ones who matter. Anyone else just use his style like Jacky & Sarah Bryant(at first)
>>491749430Lee has more charisma than Mike and that also goes for their clones.I'd argue we need more Ali clones than Mike clones.
>>491750939>Corpsed shilled in a coomer game>Scrubbed from the franchise>Still around, just as a shitpost>MK is a shitpost>DeadBalrog only really sticks around because he was Shadaloo and the wigger's daddy so he's as "plot relevant" as most CotW characters are to Fatal Fury. Capcom wanted to keep him relevant though so they kept giving him more character moments while characters made for the sake of roster filler like Fei Long got cut. If it wasn't for Capcom of America designing Dee Jay we'd have gotten the wonder twins sooner, and I'm sure modern Capcom is VERY happy they got Dee Jay instead of two Fei Longs
>>491748956Speaking of Grant, why did he look so pained in the original MotW cutscenes? What exactly was his deal, besides being Kain's henchman?
>>491751435>I'd argue we need more Ali clones than Mike clones.Fucking THIS. As long as they don't turn him from a cool character into a simp punching bag.
>>491748647Am I the only one who prefers the final product? The middle looks cool but not for a Grant disciple, and I enjoy his current hairstyle (or lack thereof). Only thing I would have kept is the suit he has over the leather jacket.
>>491751881He took a bullet for Kain back in the day and it's slowly getting deeper in his heart and surgery is too risky so rather than chance it and die in a hospital bed he's just using his last bit of time to help Kain and go out fighting like a warrior.
>>491751881>Four years before [Garou:MotW] begins, Grant shielded Kain from a gunshot by an ambush by those still loyal to Don Papas, the man Kain overthrew and took over his mafia empire from. Though the damage was not instantaneously fatal or crippling, the bullet was lodged near his heart. Since the bullet is difficult to remove, Grant lives everyday as his last and wishes for a great final battle.Despite being an urban legend of South Town turning entire regions to ruin with his Dark Karate, he was more or less mortally wounded years before MotW began, so it was only a matter of time before he fell in combat. In MotW, he would fall to Terry.
>>491752178We genuinely don't see enough shaved anime characters so I like Vox for that, myself. The tats are a very clever way to imply his relationship too while fitting the hardcore edge factor. Bro looks like he's straight out of the 2000s
>>491751449Fei-Long wasn't scrubbed, he's was mentioned by Dee Jay in World Tour.
>>491751435I think TJ Combo qualifies as an Ali-type. His wind-up punch and original look was based on Ali. Obviously that changed throughout the series.
>>491747773>femboy twinks are in these daysnah it's more like bridget is a cute actually trappy looking trap and passes instead of just looking like a male with broad shoulders with a girly haircut
>>491752434TJ Combo is a little of everything. In fact, in his backstory, he mentions watching tape on all the legends of boxing.
Happy to see Mai getting a lot of fan art because of her new design. I guess this is what happens when an already popular character gets a good new design.
>>49175243490s TJ combo is from the hood and he's flashy, he's definitely Mike inspired, just not as direct as Rog and Max. Even Jax Briggs from MK is Mike inspired in a way. That whole 90s era of badass punchy negro chars was due to Mike Tyson popularizing that image for black men.
>>491754472She's always gotten fan art, though.
>Wanted SNK shit to be talked about more >monkey-pawed hard and now every COTW discussion is 30% littered with some mentally-losers(probably just 1 psycho) spamming "MUH MAI CENSORED MAI CENSORED NO JIGGLE PHYSICS(even though there are) SJW"I honestly don't know why I still browse this site full of mentally-ill retarded chronic-masturbating subhumans.
>>491754472The new design is shit
>>491756023It's very damned if you do, damned if you don't. Fans expected a redesign, most people didn't. It's still sexy but putting a girl whose ass was out for 30 years in pants always results in backlash. Honestly I wasn't even sure what they could've done outside of the MI Kimono. I like the design as a casual outfit but I think it flops as a replacement for the original, compared to Terry and Billy. It's better than what happened to Kasumi, at least
>>491756023It's a single person from /fgg/. But that's /v/ nowadays, you can't talk about video games there anymore
>>491756023That's just /v/ in general. Sure there may be some good discussions/info to be found there, especially when it comes to niche series. But overall, they're just obsessed with the culture war shit.
>>491756714It's a sluttier version of what Mai has already been seen wearing as casual outfit. An outfit that fans have made into a mod for KOFXV, so I wouldn't be surprised if SNK was inspired by that interest.
>>491746060First, no one said that back in 91. Second, lets say for argument sake Michael max is a pure generic ripoff of Tyson with no new creative spin at all to him. That would still be more appealing to potential consumers than a injun boxer. The 20 dudes in your FF discord clamoring for Rick literally don't matter.
>>491759082>First, no one said that back in 91>That would still be more appealing to potential consumers than a injun boxerAre we talking back then or nowadays? Back then Balrog > Michael Max. Nowadays nobody cares about Mike Tyson outside of Mike Tyson's Mysteries because it's been over 30 years ago when he was relevant as a boxer and boxing isn't anywhere near as popular as it was back then. If anything that means we shouldn't have a boxer on the roster
>>491752364I think the horns tattoos are goofy though.
>>491759082>First, no one said that back in 91Yeah, FF1 is a 1992 game.
>>491759082How ironic that a what-his-name-again? fan like you is trying to drag on another character's popularity
>>491759082No one in a million years will care about fucking Michael Max. I know you're baiting at this point but your posts make me laugh every time.
>>491759839Had to make visual connection with Grant somehow, and the mask again would be too obvious.
>>491751449You know Balrog is nowhere to be seen in the current SF game right? No major outcry over it either
>>491760991>>491759762His influence is still felt in the wigger but that's mostly because the nu SF Team thinks people give a shit about Ed
>>491708010AND, RYO AND Yuri ARE SO DAMN GAY!!
>>491760991>You know Balrog is nowhere to be seen in the current SF game right?yeah because make way for popular characters like manon and mario-sa
>>491708010Yuri has never looked this busty before
>>491760462I think the Dark Karate is enough imo.
>>491761441There is never enough seems to be modern character design in a nutshell.
>>491760462He already puts on the mask during his super
>>491762437Mai does the same thing with her Super, do you think that's enough for people?
>>491762662This has nothing to do with the conversation
>>491760991>You know Balrog is nowhere to be seen in the current SF game right????
>>491762437he's a big guy
>>491762662Mai puts on Grant's mask during her super? Didn't realize she accepted him as her master.
You think Michael Max would try to force himself on Mai like Balrog did in SvC after she turned him down?
>>491696120Keep crying Kyocuck
>>491762809>Not playableThat's probably what he meant.
>>491695096Gato's dad, though he really doesn't look older than Gato here
>>491695330He got turned into Vox>>491748647
>>491695096No Mai?
if andy doesn't make a move, he's gonna get yamcha'd...
>>491768665Andy and Joe weren't playable either, they were greeting their successors
>>491768931Fighting game characters shouldn't have romantic relationships between each other. Mai's a remnant of an era but you can see devs don't pull that shit anymore with new characters, it doesn't work in games where you only play one character. Romance between playable characters only work in RPGs.
>>491769087Andy has his successor in Hokutomaru so that made sense.
>>491770051Same with Kuan. That era of Fatal Fury was over and the Team really wanted to move onward. That's why I prefer the direction CotW is taking since it's still moving forward but also has a lot of the OGs along for the ride rather than just being OGs and brand NEW characters
>>491769874Depends on the game, in Tekken they are shagging more than ever.Jin and Xiaoyu are officially a couple as of this year.Kazuya got Jun back.Lars and Alisa are very loving to each other when her head is not exploding.etc, etc
>>491769874This. It would set autistic expectations from the fans if they had romantic couples in fighting games and expect if one shoes up, the other has to follow. It also limits the sort of things the devs want to do.So really it's good they don't make Andy and Mai into a couple. Makes them continue to be free to do other things and explore other ventures. Hell Mai's CoTW bio doesn't gave a single mention of Andy anywhere.
>>491770182Yeah. CotW is feeling like a real progression from where MotW left off and it's why the roster is more MoTW characters than OGs because this is their era while the OGs are simply here for popularity and brand recognition.
>>491770339>Jin and Xiaoyu are officially a couple as of this year.>Kazuya got Jun back.>Lars and Alisa are very loving to each other when her head is not exploding.Quite literally none of this is true.
>>491770831something something not funny something something
>>491770415They've been a couple, though.
>>491770415>Hell Mai's CoTW bio doesn't gave a single mention of Andy anywhere.maybe because mai is on a different errand that doesn't involve andy for once. even though andy will definitely get involved. surprising her favorite thing is her hairpin her grandmother gave her. thought it would be something like muh andy or something.
>>491770415>>491770339That's not what I meant.In older games they used to have characters with love interests (who may become couples or not, it's irrelevant). I think the mere fact of having love interests in a genre where you only play one character doesn't work well (yes I know team games exist but bear with me).If I play a RPG, I control all the characters. So if two of the characters are in love... well that's it, I'm controlling this couple, both of them. Cool. Maybe I self-insert as the dude so it's like "my" girlfriend or whatever.In a fighting game I pick one character (usually) and fight against other players. What does having love interests add? I pick Andy because he's cool. My friend picks Mai because she's hot. OK my friend's character is in love with my character... is that supposed to make the game more enjoyable for us? No it's just weird. That's why rival relationships work so much better in fighting games, because it's a competitive game so your relationship to other player is inherently rival-like.You can see that new characters in modern fighting games do not have playable love interest anymore, they understand this. Sure the old love interests/couples are still there because legacy, but new characters don't. The only new characters with romantic interests are in love with non-playable characters which works fine.
>>491771412In KoF and even that is more played for laughs than anything serious.
>>491771565It doesn't change what I said though. Having romantic couples in fighting games just ends up setting expectations that could end up limiting what the devs want to do.
>>491771589They're a couple in Fatal Fury, too. In FF3's arcade mode, Mai is always followed immediately by Andy. Depending on the character, after you beat Mai, Andy's pre-fight cutscene features Mai crying in the background. She clearly ran to Andy for help.
>>491771775Making every character an asexual fight autist is being unreasonable.
>>491771871>They're a couple in Fatal Fury, too.They're not. >In FF3's arcade mode, Mai is always followed immediately by AndyBecause she has him whipped whenever she manages to catch him.>Depending on the character, after you beat Mai, Andy's pre-fight cutscene features Mai crying in the background. She clearly ran to Andy for help....that doesn't mean they're a couple. Andy might be scared of Mai's strong advances but he still cares about her.
>>491769874Enjoy the debut of Marie Howard, psycho wife of Geese Howard, in City of the Wolves then
>>491772118Making every character a couple is just an autistic shipperfag fantasy. Perhaps fanfiction is more your speed?
>>491772307She caused Kazusi Howard all his problems.
>>491772118Andy doesn't even look happy here.
>>491772665Because Mai's thighs are squeezing the life out of his head and he's about to black out.
>>491772307>we're made to believe Rock gets his dark urges and ki from his father>it's actually from his mother>explains the dark ki Kain uses >Marie is apparently alive and only let her brother know it but not her son >Rock, his mom and his uncle have red eyesAll right in our faces the entire time
>>491772830They're not squeezing his head at all. He just looks genuinely uninterested in that pic.
>>491772935I'm not going to stand for this Devil Gene bullshit.
>>491772935oda wouldn't...
>>491773307>>491773447Rock was inspired by Jin. Will you guys be okay?>>491772454
>>491772665>>491773103It's a face that says "I could be in the dojo training right now".
>>491775521Precisely. It's clear Andy does not want to be there.
>>491772935It's more probable that Marie isn't malicious but Rock's powers come from her side of the family. Likely the reason Geese married her in the first to try and gain the power or observe it for his own ends only to abandon her and Rock when his plans didn't bear fruit.
>>491744467Whip straight up had the Sayla color scheme in some of those whereas K' looked like Alfred 2.0 to a gen 2 Pokemon trainer.
>>491775917some mom to supposedly die of an illness only to not die and then disappear without telling her son about it. kain obviously knew the deal with her and maybe geese did too.
>>491775806I just chalk that up to Shinkiro fucking around and not an actual indictment of Andy as a character or his relationship with Mai.
>>491776310More simple to assume she faked her death to escape Geese. I don't think anyone can deny there was absolutely no love in that marriage and it is purely strategic from both ends.
>>491776423I chalk it up to Andy just not wanting to be there and Mai forced him there like she forces him everywhere when she manages to catch him.
>>491776436Kain single-handedly caused a revolt in the Don Papas being just a teenager, that whole family is fucked up.
>>491776436>More simple to assume she faked her death to escape Geesethat makes no sense. geese is the one who abandoned her and rock. she didn't need to escape anything when he's the one who left her behind.>I don't think anyone can deny there was absolutely no love in that marriage and it is purely strategic from both ends.probably. hard to say without seeing their relationship in full. maybe marie loved geese but geese didn't love her. maybe geese did secretly love her but needed to protect her and rock from his enemies so he cut ties to them. or maybe neither gave a damn about each other and it was a union for their own individual agendas because we know that marie was involved with kain and grant.
>>491776612That's not true, he was taken in by them and prepped to take over once he reached the age of majority. Though the implications are the same.
>>491776612Yeah and Kain did that around the age Rock was when Rock joined him. Who knows. Maybe Kain got Rock to do the same thing to another mafia group. As a rite of passage in the Heinlein bloodline.
>>491772307I'm gonna be disappointed when Marie ends up not even being a character at this rate, I love evil MILFs
They should make a legally distinct throw it all away play when Rock remembers his mother "dying" at her bedside and make him scream "MARIAAAAAAA!"
>>491777242Marie will be the final boss of CotW. As the keeper of Geese's truth.
>>491777384Doesn't RB2 reveal Billy found Geese's will and then if Kain isn't lying, it somehow fell into his hands. That will probably holds the truth and probably why Billy is coming to Second South.
>>491777384get the feeling that her "death" and revival is gonna wake up some dark ki she has inside her that belongs to her bloodline. that she's the descendant of a demon/vampire along with kain and rock and that power now soars through her but making her evil and powerful.
>>491775917>Likely the reason Geese married her in the first to try and gain the power or observe it for his own ends only to abandon her and Rock when his plans didn't bear fruit.Yeah, no.SNK wouldn't go against their yumejo fanbase that would pay a ton of money for a generic "I've been living in a slum, but a local crime boss noticed me and made me his wife?!" novel about Marie and Geese, as well as web manga adaptation and a Drama CD.Just wait to learn about how Geese used Jin Scrolls to cure Marie, then faked her death and hid her away. Now in COTW she'll be getting revenge for her loving husband, Geese.
>>491777705Do yumejos in 2024 even still care about Geese? They all seem to go for Ryo, Billy and Maxima nowadays.
>>491777913MAXIMA?
>>491777527Idk if RB2 is supposed to be canon or not but it makes sense if Billy found Geese's will but can't decipher it and Kain tried to do the same thing but was met with the same results. Billy took over Geese's business and we know he's out for revenge against Terry so I don't think that's why he's in Second Southtown. He'd be curious if he heard about the will being deciphered though. I don't think he'd not want to hear what his master left behind and maybe even test Rock if he's worthy of whatever Geese might have left behind for him.
>>491777157Kain was 8 years old when he was initiated. Suggesting this happened in 1988. He overthrew them in 1998. Marie died in 1995/6.
>>491777705>SNK wouldn't go against their yumejo fanbase that would pay a ton of money for a generic "I've been living in a slum, but a local crime boss noticed me and made me his wife?!" novel about Marie and Geese, as well as web manga adaptation and a Drama CD.They would have done that years ago if that were true.>Just wait to learn about how Geese used Jin Scrolls to cure Marie, then faked her death and hid her away. Now in COTW she'll be getting revenge for her loving husband, Geese.I'm dreading yet considering the possibility that Geese did care about Marie and Rock and secretly did help save her after she "died" but I don't think Marie is gonna be out for revenge for Geese or else that means she's like Billy who wants to go after Terry.
>>491777913KOFG really boosted male characters' popularity, especially Billy.
>>491777974Maxima's always been popular with yumes throughout the ages even to the point one from Tokyo asked in 2000 whether his dick was modified and sterile to which SNK answered NESTS not only didn't touch but he could very much have children. Plus every 2nd March, SNK offices always get bombarded with cards, chocolate boxes and teddy bear plushes sent by yumes on behalf of Maxima.The mexican ones are extremely brittle and sensitive (and tend to skew older) though lol. They're probably the only fans he even has.
>>491777913It's funny how many yumejos like Billy. I'd even argue Yamazaki has a bigger yumejo fanbase than Geese. Geese is more for fujos since every man in South Town is riding his dick>>491777974He was in KOF for girls
>>491778125He was still around Rock's age when he BTFO of them. That doesn't change the point.
>>491778545If Billy didn't have a little sister, those types wouldn't have come to him. Same if Maxima didn't have a similar younger sibling counterpart in K' and Kula, though they seem to characterise K' as a little brother than Kula.
>>491778545>I'd even argue Yamazaki has a bigger yumejo fanbase than Geesefor some reason, i can honestly see this. yamazaki has that kind of energy.
>>491778724Isn't Billy's little sister getting rocked by Joe?
>>491779080no. unless joe likes hospitals, i don't think that would happen.
>>491777705>SNK wouldn't go against their yumejo fanbaseanchoring themselves to that, no wonder they in the 9k sales tierthinking they on some ensemble stars shit
>>491777913Lots of people complained that KOFG did not have a Geese, Yamazaki or Ikaris route. Ikari route was almost about to be included before EoS.
>>491779080Lilly sees Joe as a friend for most of the FF era but has become open to going on dates if XV is any indication.
>>491779469The OCs were VERY important, don't you know?
>>491777913Yes. Just give them a little bit more content to work with and you'll see. Won't be surprised if Geese isekai thing was for them.>>491778364>They would have done that years ago if that were true.They didn't have enough time for that before bankruption and wanting to leave material for MotW2.Not to mention modern novelslop and webmanga weren't exactly a thing back then, so it basically would be just a Drama CD.>>491778545Not that strange. Billy is like a big dog delinquent, which is a fairly popular type among yumes.
>>491779682>Lilly sees Joe as a friend for most of the FF eraYeah and the MotW/CotW era is a decade later so things could have changed.
>>491778724K' and Maxima is drawn as anishota (big brother x shota) often and they often write "they aren't attracted romantically, it's brother's love" as a cope. >>491779761There was a Geese drama cd but granted this was when Rock was a child in Terry's endings and Marie was just a vague name in bios.
>>491779283Selling merch is more profitable than making games.Always was.
>>491779761>They didn't have enough time for that before bankruption and wanting to leave material for MotW2.They could have done a short novel or some compilation like they did for that one FF/MotW novel.(forgot the name). >Not to mention modern novelslop and webmanga weren't exactly a thing back then, so it basically would be just a Drama CD.That would have been fine for the yuemjos.
>>491772665He's canonically terrified of dogs.
>>491779469If SNK included SamSho in KOF earlier, they'd be crying for Genjuro route hard.
>>491780023That reminds me of how the only pre-bankruptcy omake cd drama or thing K' and Maxima are in are them as gigalos working for Yamazaki. Shame the Last Blade, Garou and NESTS era didn't get any fun thing.
what do you think the two did together for the past 2 years as partners?
>>491780219Haohmaru is popular with both fujos and yumes too. Wonder what happened to that one drawfag?
>>491780127Terrible cope. Dog wasn't anywhere near him.
>>491779938maybe they should just do that instead of making games then
>>491780247Watch Bayformers and classic YTPs
>>491780243>Shame the Last Blade, Garou and NESTS era didn't get any fun thing.Yeah, Since drama CDs and other supplementary materials would have worked wonders for those newer characters. SNK wasn't in the best place at that time so it really was just bad situations.
>>491780528They need games to justify new merch it's like you don't understand the industry. Have you seen Pokemon? Kusoge, but they make profitable products
>>491780650oh, i don't understand industry development nowit must be a miracle that these games existnonlinearity and allhow long did kof for girls last again
>>491780247Probably working to decipher Geese's will. Likely also suppressing any other gangs from trying to overthrow Kain as leader of Second Southtown.
>>491780728>how long did kof for girls last again 1 year and 4mo. They did say that most of its players answered as having never played or heard of KOF and ended up buying them after playing. I think one reason it failed was because the female fans in KOF don't find the generic otome approach appealing to them. They genuinely like all the rough aspects of these characters, so putting them through these generic otome storyline tropes and artstyle and dressing them up in generic cutesy outfits and suits fell flat.
>>491781084>ended up buying themyeah and they sure stuck it through with 9kofxv, thanks to the yumejo pandering
If you were to give a percentage of SNK's userbase, how much would yumejos would take up?
>>491781347To be fair it came out before KOFXV, so playing the earlier KOFs would probably turn them off because most KOFs are bad. Especially if the only games available on Steam were just the UMs, XIII and especially XIV
>>491781526around 70%
>>491781526Girls only make up I'd say a quarter.
>>491781536>so playing the earlier KOFs would probably turn them off because most KOFs are bad.glad we're aiming to keep an audience that's barely there and that barely if at all hung on to the presentwhat's the average salary/employee and how many people are onboard at snkwhat are the chances that the market cap is being artificially stimulated by a guy with too much money and that's really the only reason they're kept afloat with no known layoffs, because that's what happens when profits are low or in the negative when paired against company expenses
>>491781526They are less than 1% of the player base but they are compulsive buyers so it's normal that a lot of the merchandise is focused on them.
>>491781526In the 10-20% range
>>491781526when it comes to games? less than 20%when it comes to supplementary materials? around 60%.
>>491768931Who is the Vegeta of KOF/FF?
>>491782797Jin Chonrei when he gets announced for CotW Season 2 alongside Raiden, Duck King, Li Xiangfei and Alfred
>wake up>see thisWhat do?
>>491784195>sniiiiiiff
>>491739563I do like some of those Athena designs
>>491784195Ask where's Rimiruru
>>491786116She's about to jump out of the bush behind you
>>491782797Iori?
Shion dlc leaked for Kof 30th anniversaryhttps://files.catbox.moe/r233bw.jpeg
does anyone else feel like athena deep down likes sie
>>491786302and then Nako... https://files.catbox.moe/f7hrdu.jpg
>Native American character>He works at a casinoWhat did SNK mean by this?
>>491789883he's singing to you the song of his casino
>>491789883It's not really racist if that's all they do nowadays
I will chisel your gravestone.
>>491788892Everyone noticed it by KoFXIII. That's why nobody cares anymore.
>>491772282They live with each other by XIVhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=37CnR8JNrN8They're also a couple by Real Bout for Fatal Fury.You don't play.
>>491795450Living together does not equate a couple. They grew up together in the same dojo.
>>491756023/v/ decided to be politically obsessed and are rightfully paying the price for it.
>>491781536>because most KOFs are bad.You don't have more than 30 minutes in most of them
Next KOF saga should just have the KOFG girl as the main character, she's clearly amongst the most powerful forces in-universe
>>491795965I've played them to completion. Most of the bad ones are between 98 and XITry again
>>491795992Only if she's a fangirl of Terry.
>>491788892It's been demonstrated in previous games. Even in XIV her conversation with Love Heart is quite telling.
>>491795731Are you blind or are you just not seeing the picture attached? Mai's constantly following him too.>Living together does not equate a couple.Yeah I guess Mai telling him to to propose to her while he tells her it's too soon in XV never happened, or her teasing him with a baby in her hand in 2001 while he freaks out.I bet you have no idea to what i'm even referring to.
>>491795731>>491795450Kuroki, mentioned once during one of KK's streams that far as the staff was concerned, Mai/Andy, Terry/Mary and Yuri/Robert were couples by XVI
>>491797142>Robert/YuriI wonder if Robert will be a serious dude again in the new AoF. Genuinely think he's been flanderised harder than anyone else has from his source material to KOF, went from cool rival to comic relief
https://x.com/G1_BARI/status/1827665442405814649>>491797142>XVIXIV, I'm retarded
>>491797639>Genuinely think he's been flanderised harder than anyone else has from his source material to KOFNo, I don't think so, not compared to Ryo, Takuma, King and Yuri anyway.If anything, he probably the one who managed to stay cool somewhat, despite the jokes.
>>491798329King barely had anything going on as a character in AOF
>>491796727>Are you blind or are you just not seeing the picture attached?Are you blind yourself? Mai is shown to be clingy towards Andy. Her sleeping and holding his arm is nothing new.>Yeah I guess Mai telling him to to propose to her while he tells her it's too soon in XV never happened, or her teasing him with a baby in her hand in 2001 while he freaks out.If that is your argument, then you're already hopeless.
>>491797142He never said that.
>>491797639Wonder when the new AoF is coming.
>>491796692>Even in XIV her conversation with Love Heart is quite tellingwhat was the convo?
>>491798832>Are you blind yourself? Mai is shown to be clingy towards Andy. Her sleeping and holding his arm is nothing newRetarded cope. Context matter here.>If that is your argument, then you're already hopeless.I accept your concession.
>>491799424>Retarded cope. Context matter here.You're the retard coping here. You're seriously clinging to her sleeping and holding Andy's arm with Andy focusing on something else as a hint they're a couple. We already knew Mai was clingy with Andy and Andy was powerless to stop her.
>>491799013https://www.twitch.tv/videos/508543301?t=00h17m16sHere is the timestamp.
>>491800854>I guess they are>apparently they areSo they're really not and it's business as usual.
>>491802216Milk...
>>491802216I like how well the Japanese artists are taking to her new outfit.
>>491802216Is this new design good for little boys and girls now?
>>491809324>>491802216SNK knows how to make top tier waifus
>>491802216This design will be the alt one used in SF6
>>491782797>arrogant rival character who once worked for a villainous boss and thought he was hot shit until the protagonist beat him and now constantly jobs to play up new characters
>>491812491it'd be funny if that was wrong and it was something like her mi outfit
>>491772118Me on the far left
>>491697295SNK heroines is canon
>>491788892Does she fuck. If she did she wouldn't keep him around as a last resort. Athena is all about me me me. She's afraid of being on her own. Meanwhile that pussy of hers is getting pounded by bad boys like Kyo all without Kensou knowing.
>>491813691>Does she fuck. If she did she wouldn't keep him around as a last resort.>Meanwhile that pussy of hers is getting poundedso, assuming the latter is true, and the hypothesis is that kensou wouldn't be kept around if she "does fuck"the conclusion should be that kensou isn't kept around, because she does fuck
>>491798468And wasn't the romance between Ryo created by KOF?>>491813691That's not Athena. That's one of Yuki's other friends but I can't remember her name.
>>491813691>we can start as friends at firstit's over for him
>>491788892Probably, unfortunately being an idol means she can't date. I'm not joking.
>>491813691>Be friends at firstNoooooooo. No no no. Noooooooooooooooooooooooooooo. That's what Kensou did.
>>491816351although your seiyuu that performs like an idol for you and your anime/vidya self at live concerts can get away with it on good behavior**only applies to idolm@ster
>>491788892
>>491812521That would kill my sides. Problem is Billy is pretty much in love with Geese even after his death while Vegeta hated Frieza's guts since day 1.
>>491788892>92athena's life as an idol
>>491788892She kinda does. At least in XIV she gets jealous of Mui Mui and Love Heart.But this>>491813691She's keeping him as a last resort. Lots of bitches do that.Kensou should stop being a lame simp and run away from her.
>>491813691Athena thinks about Kensou in SNK Heroines and wishes that he was with her. Kensou isn't completely hopeless. Ironically the only way his chances begin to increase is when he's not bugging Athena 24/7 and begins ghosting her.
I forgot it was Nobuyuki Hiyama's birthday or was it the other day because Japan time.
>>491800854>>491801057Gonna cut in here and add that FF3 profile talks about Andy planning to marry her once they've matured a bit and one of the character Q&A's soft-confirm they've gone on dates off screen with Mai wanting them to go them more often. So yeah they're pretty much a couple. Andy never really denies she's his girlfriend either just that she's not his wife or fiance or baby mama or whatever shit she tries to slap on herself to push their relationship faster than Andy feels comfortable going with especially with his baggage.
>>491812335Athena is for molesting. If she rides a train would chikan.
>>491817457>She kinda does. At least in XIV she gets jealous of Mui Mui and Love Heart.You sure that isn't just her being flustered instead of jealous?>Kensou should stop being a lame simp and run away from her.The moment he stops simping over her is when she starts showing interest in him. That's how girls are. They like the attention and when you give them none, they will start to feel all bothered by it. If Kensou stopped simping over Athena and either started talking to another girl or just do something else, Athena is gonna be bothered by it deep down.
>>491817476>>491817457It's basically the same shit Mai and Andy have going on with the other party liking them but being turned off by them being obnoxious. Whenever Kensou actually chills out and and stops being a spaz around her, she actually warms up to him pretty quickly and openly says he's the most important person in her life. Guy just needs to fucking relax with his shit but Athena occasionally plays into it too to lift his spirits so....
>>491817585she's more of his sort-of girlfriend. andy doesn't seem like he wants to put labels on anything between him and mai. he is interested in her but wants to take things very slow and not be tied down so he can keep doing his own things. dates are fine here and there but stuff like sex, weddings, etc etc are a no-no for him.
>>491817919>>491817992what are the odds
>>491817919Okay but to be fair Kensou really does need to chill the fuck out.
>>491818113he's too flanderized to chill the fuck out
>>491817992Yes Athena isn't exactly helping to stop Kensou's actions especially with that XIII convo with Team Heroines. He's all about showing his love for her but the ironic part is that he has a better chance when he stops paying attention to her and doing other things.
I can't believe I'm actually missing Kensou and want him in XV. What have these threads done to me?
>>491818445kensou is too similar to athena *puts in three of the kyokugen fighters* arr kirra no firra
>>491818109Yeah. That was always the core issue on why the relationship never went anywhere.>>491818113See shit like that is why he gets nowhere. He's showing Athena has power over him. Athena however doesn't exactly dismiss him like she should and kinda goes along with it like "typical Kensou..." instead of "leave me alone Kensou"
>>491818445Kensou may not be my favorite character but he and Chin have been there since the start. Having Athena team up with Mai and Yuri is just kind of lame in general but when it's at the expense of other characters it's like a double whammy of lame.
>>491818257Funny how the staff mentioned that he wasn't supposed to be that crazy simp he ended up becoming. It just became a funny running joke among them and the fans so they went with it.
>>491818372Nah just be genuine and not all 'my beautiful princess' and all that clingy shit. She likes spending time with him and gets flustered by him easily whenever he's just sincere with her and gets bummed when he's not around. He even almost got her to go on a date with him in the XIV team stories. It's really just his over the top shot that understandably turns her off.
>>491818445He's that comic relief you want to use to troll people online or use as a sandbag. Definitely odd that he and Chin didn't appear and don't seem to be in for DLC. Might have something to do with the staff wanting to have King be with Ryo and Robert this time around for Team AoF which left Mai and Yuri needing a new teammate for Team Heroines and since the staff wanted Athena to be in the game, the pieces just kind of fell into place. But now with no Athena, Kensou and Chin are kind of boned for Team Psycho Soldier unless they get someone else.
>>491819195Kensou could be a solo entry. Canonically he's strong enough for it despite his goofiness.
>>491818619funny how that is how snk would respond to why kensou isn't in the game despite how stupid that sounds as you explained.
>>491818787I think him simping for Athena didn't start until the KOF Kyo manga.
>>491818893Pretty much. But if he began ghosting her, that would drive her crazier than she'd want people to see. She'd be the one trying to approach him at that point. But we can agree, his current approach doesn't do him much favors but isn't killing his chances completely either.
>>491819532I thought he was already simping for her before that.
Reminder that Kensou has been around longer everyone except the Ikaris.
>>491819301That could also work. Solo entries are pretty common with KoF anyways. Though I don't remember how strong Kensou is supposed to be because he's pretty much treated like a Dan Hibiki.
>>491819797Funny how they both predate Terry. OG Athena was pretty popular back in the 80s iirc.
>>491819532Yeah it was the peak of Kyo wank and needed to do that typical shit when they have another guy be a huge annoying loser to highlight how cool the MC is and sort of just pushed Kensou into that role but in 94 he was more like you standard comedy 80's anime protag. You know the lighthearted, girl-crazy type like Ataru and only entered to impress girls. Not just Athena.
>>491819301>Kensou could be a solo entry.everyone should be made into "solo entries" and you have to find the canon teams on your own and there just may be some overlaps with special teams just for giving them somethingthat would have upped replay value by discovering what the teams actually areit's not like you actually normally play the actual teams competitively anyway, this is not kof94 where you're locked in
>>491819301>Canonically he's strong enoughSo is ShingoI don't know why you even bring it up.>>491819532It's been this way since Crystallis IIRC.
>>491820056Kyofags don't get to bitch about SNK pushing other characters.
>>491819810>Though I don't remember how strong Kensou is supposed to be because he's pretty much treated like a Dan Hibiki.he's far stronger than athena and his potential surpasses his master but his slacker behavior is what causes him to not fight or train seriously. plus that weird dragon power of his gets shared between him and that one kid(forgot his name) and that left him without his powers for awhile and he only relied on kung fu. once he trained seriously, he became a menace when he returned.
>>491819683I don't know when his crush really started manifesting but looking back at the older endings a lot of the PS teams endings where them reflecting on the nature of evil and then laughing about going home to eat. Then in 97 they met that maid girl who was a fan of theirs who they inspired to walk again.
>>491819810Strongest of Chin's students and Athena KNOWS he's constantly holding back alot, carried his weight in 99 even without his powers and his team made it to the semis, by XIV he can go toe to toe with Chin himself in a serious spar and all that without really relying on the dragon spirit which is on its own tier of bullshit despite apparently mastering it's power in only a year.
>>491820056Yeah. I do remember how badly Kensou got butchered in order to boost Kyo. Shit was crazy.>>491820253This 100%. I better not hear any of them cry about Terry again.
>>491820260>and that one kid(forgot his name)
>>491820130That would be pretty cool but put a lot of work on SNK to implement all this. Only way it would feasibly work is to shrink the roster and that would only piss off the fans.
>>491820520>Only way it would feasibly work is to shrink the rosterbut smaller rosters = easier to balance!why not, it worked for shrinking the roster down from xiv to xveven after recycling data
>>491820290I see. Could have sworn the intros Kensou had with Athena had him show of his infatuation. I might be getting the KoFs games mixed up but I definitely remembered the 90s games had already started with that simping.
>>491820520>Only way it would feasibly work is to shrink the roster and that would only piss off the fans.Really? I feel like if anything that would give them an excuse to make the roster bigger. A lot of the trouble is that we get overloaded with the main teams and stuff like that but if you can just BS solo entries then you're pretty much allowed to go hog wild.
>>491820260>>491820357So Kensou is actually just a lazy genius who gets treated like a butt monkey because of his simping over Athena but when he applies himself, he would fuck up most people?
>>491820660I tried looking up the special pre fight intros but it seems like he only started going gaga in 98.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=COuL_a_X3Ls&t=
>>491820657And people bitched and seethe about the roster to the sky and back when they did that.>>491820807Sure but expecting exclusive stuff with solo characters teaming up with other characters for the most part would require a lot of work.
>>491820948Hmm. Then I guess my memories really were faulty. Then you were right and the Kyo manga probably was the source for where he started going crazy with the simping and that bled over into the games.
>>491821026>Sure but expecting exclusive stuff with solo characters teaming up with other characters for the most part would require a lot of work.Not really. You might have to draw more endings but even now we're still using drawings and text based endings so it's not that much extra work. And it would be easy to code so the ending that plays is determined by some easy trigger. Like the character you pick as captain.
>>491820827Pretty much. By 99 though he's grown out of his slacker status and is trained relentlessly by Chin. Barely gets any days off. He even starts chastising Kyo for just coasting off his talent and not putting in his work on XIII. After mastering the dragon spirit during the time between 03 and XI the reason he's not fucking everyone up is because he wants to rely on his own power instead of the dragon's because seeing what happened guys like Rugal and Igniz.
>>491820827Well yeah. Remember he slacks off in training and lost his powers but relied on kung-fu only to keep up with Athena and Chin during the KoF tournaments from 99 onwards. Once he took a leave from KoF in order to train to get his powers back, he became a beast. Characters kept talking about how different he was and how he was back to his original state and some even mentioned he's even stronger than his original peak. Kensou with his Dragon Spirit is stronger than Chin at this point. Kensou doesn't need a team.
>>491819301All of this also applies to Shingo. Perhaps, both Shingo and Kensou should team up with someone else since Kyo and friends don't have space for him in their team nowadays.
>>491821264>You might have to draw more endings but even now we're still using drawings and text based endings so it's not that much extra work.2D illustrations cost quite a bit of money nowadays. That's another factor on why I could see why the staff would be hesitant with this sort of idea. Of course if they got bigger funds from the prince, I think they might try it.
>>491821550I do wonder if there was meant to be more to the dragon spirit business. If we're going off the whole directional gods we'd be left with at least three more potential spirits to fill out and rotate around. Athena could probably fill in for the phoenix she carries that imagery a lot so that leaves Tiger and.... snake turtle... thing.
>>491821728>2D illustrations cost quite a bit of money nowadaysa bit of what, unless they're outsourcing they use their own artists that are already on the payrollthe only matter there is time and effort required, and art direction to make sure it's consistent enough if more than one artistbengus>>491821026>And people bitched and seethe about the roster to the sky and back when they did that.nah that was clearly just me, did you not see the other people telling you it's only one anon doing that and only because that one anon is mad that sylvie wasn't in the game
>>491821374>>491821550So even after he masters his power, he's STILL holding back. Jesus I was wrong about this guy. He's a fucking monster. Ironic SNK treats him like a joke despite this.
>>491802216https://x.com/musashido/status/1827158807547683004Mai's secret weapon to get Andy to fuck her
>>491821927>a bit of what, unless they're outsourcing they use their own artists that are already on the payrollAnon artistic tools and resources aren't cheap. Sure they have plenty of artists but it would still be very time consuming and extensive use on tools.
>>491821938>Ironic SNK treats him like a joke despite this.If fucking K' is treated like this nowadays it's not really surprising they do this too for other strong characters.
>>491821938The thing is, a lot of characters in the series are absolute beasts but the plot always needs to center around the MC at time. Being a "monster" probably doesn't mean as much as it actually sounds like. One of the things I really like in the 14 manga was how Shun E's character revolved around being scared of his power so Master Tung was just LOL and had him fight a guy who learned to karate chop buildings in half the hard way.
>>491821847I'd rather they explain whatever the hell the dragon spirit is supposed to be before introducing a whole bunch of other spirits. I know it's related to the whole psychic powers they have but still.
>>491822084>Anon artistic tools and resources aren't cheapthat depends on whether they're doing it traditional media or digital, and i would assume they already have access to digital methodsafterall, a POORFAG LIKE MYSELF has a cintiq that i rarely ever use and only bought to show that i'd rather buy that than kofxv full price
>>491822084>Sure they have plenty of artists but it would still be very time consuming and extensive use on tools.What tools? They mostly already have the tools they need. They can use the same computers for this for the last half dozen games they made. Even if they made it in pen and paper art supplies aren't that expensive. Time is probably the biggest factor but the artists probably get to work on their end of the project well before the programmers even start.
>>491822134Good point indeed. Guess Kensou doesn't have a chance. Though I guess it's nice to know that they want you to know he chooses to never go all out.>>491822180That makes sense. If all these strong guys began overshadowing the MC, then it would defeat the purpose of having a MC. Even though Kensou could probably bitchslap Shun if he ever got serious, he would never go all out and Shun would beat him for that.
>>491822258Pretty sure most of them have begun transitioning to digital. Maybe doing some traditional art for reference before replicating it through digital.>>491822419What if their computers break? You would need money to pay for repairs. I know it sounds asinine but these things happen and as I already mentioned, I agree with you on time and pressure from deadlines. SNK might consider it more trouble than it's worth.
>>491822508At this point I feel like having an MC at all is starting to become detrimental to the ongoing series. Every saga we introduce a new hero team and for some reason they refuse to rotate them out when their saga is done. So by KOF 18 we're gonna have a roster of almost nothing but Hero Teams. They need to step back, make it more an ensemble series and either tell mini stories or find more for the bulk of the cast to do beyond lose in the finals so the current MC can beat the current throwaway villain.
>>491822419>Even if they made it in pen and paper art supplies aren't that expensive.depends on the type of medialike alcohols, acrylics, oils, watercolor and gouache, tempura (lol), crayons, color pencil, sharpies, brush markers
>>491822802>What if their computers break?What if it breaks for one of the programmers. It's the same cost. They get a new one. SNK is a smaller company but that doesn't mean they're working on an indy game budget. They can afford work computers. Unless something MASSIVE and TRAGIC happens to the entire company then they can afford the basic cost of doing business. It doesn't sound asinine it sounds retarded.
>>491822802>What if their computers break? You would need money to pay for repairs.~what if their main code hub breaks and they lose all their programming~
>>491822864>At this point I feel like having an MC at all is starting to become detrimental to the ongoing seriesI agree 100%. Shit should have stopped after the Kyo saga. Just make it like Smash where there's no dedicated MC at the center. The rest of your post points out this concern that we could end up with a roster willed with MCs and limit the number of non-MCs that could be in the game. That's why they should stop.
>>491823102SNK was also the company that suffered bankruptcy. Even though they have Saudi money keeping them in business now, I would think they would be more risk-averse and more cost-efficient. That's why they wouldn't waste time with trying to focus time and labor on designing all these dozens of endings and exhaust their resources.>>491823114That would be hell for them. Might as well just can the project.
>>491823619>SNK was also the company that suffered bankruptcy.They didn't go bankrupt because one or two computers broke you stupid fucking moron.
>>491822864Yes. Focus on developing on what's already there. It's not like Shun'ei caught on as much as K' and Ash did (regardless of how better personality wise he might be than the other protags).
>>491823619they're privatized, that's up to their primary financier and upper brass to finance their company, and since you brought up the saudi money here, only natural such a mark for the company would be willing to give them what they need to do the task with as much reckless abandon necessary to make something more sovlful
>>491694809How many people here jerked it to her old Saigado doujins? First time I did it was in Yuri and Friends Full Color 7
I think even the Psycho Soldier arcade had Kensou was comic relief because during drops Athena would land on her feet while Kensou would land on his face.
>>491823718I never said they did retard. I brought the bankruptcy thing as an example of why they'd be more cost-efficient.>>491823779They might have Saudi money but naturally Saudi wants to seem some massive returns on their investments. I don't think SNK would want to rack up too much cost with reckless abandonment.
>>491824074>I never said they did retard.The fact that we're having this conversation at all means you're an idiot. Shut up!
>>491824054That and he was used as Athena's shield in that one SNK heroines game back in the early 2000s.
>>491824074>They might have Saudi money but naturally Saudi wants to seem some massive returns on their investments.he invested in snk, be serious here
>>491820253>>491820391Was it as bad as say Senran Kagura was with Yumi or how Dead or Alive was with Marie Rose and Honoka? Though, at least Kyo and Terry are both protagonists of their own respective series.>>491821631Funny thing is Kensou and Shingo have been on edit teams together. There's the Teen Team in '98 which put them with Chris and the Kid Team in '99 which put them with Bao and Xiangfei.
>>491824360Even a turd could produce some surprising value that most people wouldn't recognize right away.
>>491824693guess we'll have to wait until 2033 for that
>>491824464>>491821631Shingo would need to get some buff to partner with Kensou. Of course their main appeal would be that they're both jokes. They'd just need one more person.
>>491821631Kasumi was a solo entry once.
>>491824464>Was it as bad as say Senran Kagura was with Yumi or how Dead or Alive was with Marie Rose and Honoka? Yes. You should have seen Kyofags when Terry was announced for Smash.
Just make Kensou a solo entry with full usage of his dragon spirit. Probably too late for XV but maybe for XVI?
>>491825147Who is Athena going to team up with? Mai and Yuri again?
>>491823361If a new Capcom vs. SNK does happen in the future. What's the likeliness will see any KOF originals outside of the heroes and rivals? Because we've got four of each which would which in total that's 8 KOF reps. Then again, a lot of those games had Street Fighter make up more than half the roster.>>491825031Funny thing is I actually wanted Kyo in Smash, but I wasn't bothered by Terry's inclusion.
>>491825309Put her on the Japan Team with Kyo and Hinako.
>>491825309Either that or another team like Team Japan. Kensou needs time away from her to spread his wings.
>>491825364>If a new Capcom vs. SNK does happen in the future. What's the likeliness will see any KOF originals outside of the heroes and rivals? Because we've got four of each which would which in total that's 8 KOF reps. Then again, a lot of those games had Street Fighter make up more than half the roster.They'd probably try to shoehorn some of the newer KoF MCs like Shun. Other than that, it would probably be the usual picks per usual. Like Kyo, Iori, Terry, Mai, etc.
>>491825031I wouldn't have minded Kyo too desu. But Sakurai obviously prefers Iori...
>>491825147>Just make Kensou a solo entry with full usage of his dragon spirit. Probably too late for XV but maybe for XVI?gonna revisit this topic again thenhere is how i personally would do kof168 main teams total, but that doesn't mean you only get 24 characters in the base roster, because some of the characters outside that scope would either be special bonus edit team with someone and/or singles bracket ending of some sort instead, which means playing 1v1 sp mode instead OH NOOOO THE KRYPTONITE OF KOF AHHHHjust about anyone will get a 1v1 ending but the level of detail in it will vary between a simple galleria pic with maybe a one liner by the va or something a little morebut the teams aren't arranged on the css so that's really up to the players to discover which is what and that allows snk to not lock themselves too hard on who has to be with who on a teamand given what other modes you feature, there might just be maybe a character whose only involvement is on the sidelines, but hey at least that character is playable and you still get some bonuses a la kof98 for beating a mode with that character
>>491822180>>491822864I think it should go like what SF 4 and 5 did: a little bit of time for each character to shine, with their own stories and proper conclusions and everything. And I mean not necessarily in the arcade way.
>>491825824I was mainly talking about characters created for KOF. So, Terry and Mai don't count. On the other hand, with how much Fatal Fury is being pushed recently what that ends up making up most of the roster. I think Fatal Fury had the most number of characters in Neo Geo Battle Coliseum.
>>491826119I can't help but feel like a new game, especially these days, would be nothing but the safest picks.
>>491817457>At least in XIV she gets jealous of Mui Mui and Love Heart.wait what happened with that
>>491825364CVS2 had Beni, Vice, and Chang + Choi. I guess it depends on who the devs prefer. I don't think Ash, Elisabeth, and Isla are that likely and Shun'ei might only be in because SNK themselves may want to push him.
>>491825861Iori would cause so much havoc in Smash.
>>491695916Will they mention Maximum Impact?
>>491825893Ehh I doubt SNK would want through this much trouble.
>>491827020yeah go fig that they don't want to do any work if they can't just recycle something to get there
>>491826119Fatal Fury predates and even gave birth to KoF so of course they would get more priority picks from that game. So if we got another SNK vs Capcom, you better believe we'll get more FF reps than KoF original reps.
>>491826736They might include Ash but I agree that Elisabeth and Isla probably wouldn't make the cut.
>>491825986SFIV and V did MCs wrong and so did 6. If anything, Street Fighter NEVER had a good MC after Ryu because they would be shoved to the sidelines almost immediately. At least KOF tended to stick by its protags for the arc before dropping themHaving an MC for a fighting game is unnecessary anyway unless you want to put effort into telling a story which fighting is a horrible genre to do so because of muh big roster. It's why we get such small starting rosters for most modern fighters (SF6/Strive/CotW) because the alternative is a big roster where nobody does anything (KOFXV/T8)
>>491827101You're advocating for a pretty skewed 1v1 system with the endings. Not everyone will get the same level of quality for their endings which would only cause the mechanic to be disliked by hardcore fans.
>>491827497gonna have to balance that with team-based endings, and hardcore fans already complain about a lot of other thingsget out of the mentality that hardcore fans need to be bent over for every single time and if they were ~hardcore~ they're probably already just playing the game at tourneys instead
>>491818893>He even almost got her to go on a date with him in the XIV team storiesno he didn't
KOF being 3v3 has always been an excuse to do less work because the original game bolstered a 24 character roster (bigger than Super Turbo at the time) but only 8 Teams that couldn't be interchanged (same number of endings as vanilla SFII) and since the game was rushed to even come out at all, this was the only way they could have a large roster without sacrificing the story, which was their #1 priority back then for all of their fighters bar SamShoKOF is inherently built to have less content just to emphasize its roster size which is what I've been saying for years
>>491827815Hardcore fans are the main people buying these games. Not the casuals. Spitting on their feet isn't a good idea.
>>491769874>>491771565>>491771775I agree and diagree on how fighting game characters have a equally playable love interest. Not every character has to be paired with each other but in this case, Mai and Andy is mostly for humor and that they're not even boyfriend and girlfriend (KOF aside). Another reason where two playable characters in fighting games being romantically involved is drama. It's only a problem when the writing doesn't accomodate such relationship dynamics.Again, in GD/FF, Andy and Mai aren't really boyfriend and girlfriend because the former is more focused on his training and only saw the latter as a sister figure. The way I see their relationship, maybe, just maybe, Andy could change his perception of Mai if only the latter gave him space to think about it and since it's fiction, it's just a matter of the production team giving a good reason for Andy to change his mind and to have Mai learn to restrain herself.Now, getting away from Andy and Mai, do we need, say, Terry and Rock to have love interests? Ideally, I only think Rock is the one who can work with a love interest but whether that will be Hotaru (if that's where their relationship will be going for COTW depends on the production team) or we do get a sequel or two beyond COTW where a new character will have be introduced as Rock's love interest (again, that will depend on the production team).
>>491828369and they also did it on a yearly basis so they rushed themselves into a corner with that kind of madden-like mentality>>491828498yeah and what 9k set of people is thatsome characters just aren't stars so i wouldn't push them the same way i would push a star character and that's life and that's reality, and even then i wouldn't leave them with nothinglike i'm not gonna give barry horowitz the same push i give the rock or cena just because we need to please some mar i mean self-proclaimed hardcore fans on equal distribution, same way i'm not gonna put chang and choi on the same pedestal as terry or kyo or even k or ash, but that doesn't mean i'm not gonna toss them a couple bones and if you balance your budget right, it won't be totally unequal, it just won't be equal importance to the bigger picture
>>491829131and elaborating further, you're already cutting characters that hardcore fans supposedly like, IF THEY REALLY ARE QUOTEY FINGERS ~HARDCORE FANS~ so it's really just a hypocritical thing to talk about being a hardcore fan and being allright with cuts in the roster but omg chang isn't pushed like terry? off with snk's head
>>491769874I mean Kyo has Yuki, however that doesn't stop people from shipping him with someone else like Iori or Athena.
>>491829131Anon casuals have various other options on the market that they would go with over KoF so it's not like it makes that much a difference.
>>491828341Yes he did. It's on the site. He only didn't because Chin overheard Kensou bragging about being able to beat him and decided to teach him a lesson to keep him humble. https://www.snk-corp.co.jp/us/games/kof-xiv/teamstory/psycho.php
>>491828985>>491772307>>491772935>>491775917>>491776310>>491776436>>491777242>>491777680That's what I feel is where the production team is going with the Heinlein siblings: they could be a part of a thought-to-be-dead warrior clan and that Rock managing to know Geese's moves without learning them could be that clan's special ability. Problem is, I doubt that will be resolved in COTW alone.
>>491828985>Now, getting away from Andy and Mai, do we need, say, Terry and Rock to have love interests? Ideally, I only think Rock is the one who can work with a love interest but whether that will be Hotaru (if that's where their relationship will be going for COTW depends on the production team) or we do get a sequel or two beyond COTW where a new character will have be introduced as Rock's love interest (again, that will depend on the production team).Terry sort of has Blue Mary but given his luck with the OVAs, I don't think romance works with Terry.Also Rock virtually has no relationship with Hotaru. They barely have much interaction as is. Rock is more focused on finding his mom and Hotaru is more focused on finding her brother.
>>491829652>Anon casuals have various other options on the marketwell naturally, that's already shown by the sales data and player countsi'm just telling you how i would do things in broader strokes because the details are a bit tl;drit's not like snk is reading our posts so they clearly aren't going to listen to what i got anyway, even if i emailed them these ideas!but again, it's always "there's a reason they won't do it like this because reasons" rather than "well here is MY proposal" because, well, snk ain't reading this placeright, kk
>>491828985Rock is for getting groomed. Hotaru is only for BOC (Big Onii-chan Chinchin)>>491829131>>491829338Roster filler is a concept that works if you're focusing exclusively on story and want a character you haven't future-proofed to fill in a factor in the story that another character can't already do, and this is more prevalent early on in a franchise where things aren't set and stone and favorites aren't chosen yet. Where KOF went wrong was making its own roster filler instead of focusing exclusively on crossover content and then eventually the OC took over and started pushing all of the crossover content into the shadows which caused people to ignore them and start to lose an idea of what these characters were like or should be like in the first placeThis culminates into a game like KOFXV's "All killer, no filler" where 99% of the roster is pop characters that all play the same and exist solely to "represent something" and can't just be there for plot reasons. It's not conceptually bad, but it only works as "we don't have any plans to continue on from this" and means XVI has a lot of work to do to justify its existence on why it should exist in the same space as XV, mostly gameplay wiseSF6 did something similar, focusing on the OG "Essentials" a handful of pop characters, new blood that everyone's already dropped and now we get crossover content because they don't wanna just repeat what SFV did even if it's a waste of time
>>491829621As much as I'm impressed SNK stuck to Yuki she barely exists in game. Kyo's 15 ending was the first time we've seen her even mentioned in ages.
>>491829802>kensou cucked himself with his big mouth fucking kek
>>491829929Obviously trying to target a broader audience is ideal but it's not always feasible when you look at the strong competition on the market already. SNK is small-time now compared to those guys. They have a very diehard dedicated fanbase who already buys their game. Trying to find an equilibrium in trying to reach a wider audience but also trying to keep your core audience is always the best.
>>491830473Yeah, it's called making more than KOF games so casuals can get into the games by seeing their favorite characters in KOF instead of shitting out the exact same fighter every year to every 5 years
>>491830038She was also mentioned in NESTS Kyo's pre-battle dialogue with Athena in XIII.
>>491829834They could probably just give a barebones explanation for it in CotW. Especially if Marie really pops up alive. You'd kind of have to at that point given Rock and Kain clearly have some sinister ki. Kind of funny that Rock went through the trouble of practicing and learning the moves of the father he despises.
>>491829802I'm reading through these and I'm baffled as to why SNK can't/won't put these team stories in the fucking game where people might actually bother to read or watch them??? There's some actually good characterization and good scenes in these.
>>491830652Yes and since most casuals only really know a handful of them like Terry, Mai, Kyo and Iori, those kinds of games still might not appeal to them. It would still be the diehard SNK fans who buy that shit. SNK would need to make sure that non-fighting product has a really interesting and unique hook to pull in even casuals.
>>491829943>This culminates into a game like KOFXV's "All killer, no filler" where 99% of the roster is pop charactersno, kofxv is the way it is because they got lazy and cannibalized their teams so they could secretly work on cotw and pretend they only started work on it after kofxv was released, and they were able to get away with it because people worked from home for a good deal of itand despite recycling from xiv, samsho, even heroines, the game managed only 39 at the start and it wasn't because they wanted to say sankyuulazy, sloppy, and distracted by another product they were more interested in>and means XVI has a lot of work to do to justify its existence on why it should exist in the same space as XVxv, the seinfeld game>Obviously trying to target a broader audiencei didn't say broader audience, i said broader strokesi'm talking about the amount of detail i'm giving in the explanation of how i'd do something>>491830770had been saying that all this timewhat were the responses?>just go visit the website bro its that simpleif you can't put a wall of text to read in some mode of the game at the very least, you really have problems at the development level because anyone who has made a simple windows program can do that with their ass, and that's even with the shitty windows mfc garbage
>>491830770Maybe because it would take up too much space. What SNK did isn't any different from what other companies do.
>>491830770See this is the kind of stuff that used to be in manuals. Not quite in game but it was something physically attached to it. Now that we don't have manuals everything needs to be in game. Which really shouldn't be hard. Like seriously a text prologue aint gonna break anyone.
>>491831059Getting rid of manuals was a mistake>muh trees Fuck off. Also the stories on that site are too long for a simple prologue for each teams.
>>491829943All Killer no filler most certainly is bad though. Think about your favorite band and your favorite album. You didn't just think up a greatest hits collection.
>>491831189unless you're a green day fan kek
>>491831189Yet with KOF that's exactly what 98 and 02 are, especially 02UM
>>491831484are you meaning to say that kensou was somehow killer no filler until xv came along to which he was now fat that needed to be cut to wear a hat
mai's hair is so fucking ugly
>>491831637Seethe harder Andy.
>>491831637Andy thinks Mai is cute.
>>491831484I wouldn't count the games that bring EVERYONE back from their sagas as "no filler"
>>491829929nah I read what you guys say lol
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zjrw3Gkhg2Y
I feel like most of CotW's cutscene animation budget will go to Terry vs. Rock at Geese Tower.
>>491833221noooooo, the hardcore fans will hate that unequal weight
>>491833221because it's the deciding fight that will conclude the story of the fatal fury/garou densetsu series. terry's nightmare will come true in that either he kills rock or rock will kill him.
>>491833326Terry and Rock are the fucking protagonists. They should naturally get priority over everyone else.
>>491833812but but hardcore fans
>>491833676>kill off the company mascot......or kill the company mascot and iconic villain's less memorable adopted son/biological sonSayonara Rocku!
>>491834068tbf geese is dead in the fatal fury universe but alive in the kof universe. same deal could happen with terry even if he dues in cotw.
>>491834283*dies
>>491836273How dare you spoil Jenet's COTW ending.
>>491834068>>491834283Killing Terry would instantly make Rock the most hated fighting game character ever, so if these guys have half a braincell they won't kill either.
>>491829914>Terry sort of has Blue Mary but given his luck with the OVAs, I don't think romance works with Terry.First of, I doubt it's worth canonizing that aspect from the OVAs for Terry. Second, it's understandable why Terry and Mary didn't go far with their relationship (Mary fantasizing about him in her RB2 ending aside): Terry wanted to continue traveling around the world even if he had to take Rock with him whereas Mary wanted to continue being a detective. Them being a romantic couple would have gotten in the way of that even if that would have given Rock a mother figure.>Also Rock virtually has no relationship with Hotaru. They barely have much interaction as is. Rock is more focused on finding his mom and Hotaru is more focused on finding her brother.Hence why I brought up the idea of continuing GDF/FF beyond COTW. If the production team wants to give Rock a love interest, make a new character for that but it's clearly too late to do that for COTW.
>>491837501I'm sure Max and his retarded Capcuck fanbase would back Rock up.
>>491837501If Terry's death wasn't totally Rock's fault, he might not get as much hate.>>491837607They are no match for the power of South America.
>>491837607>>491837880Too hard to justify, especially since Terry is now in SF6. The dood probably wouldn't try to attempt salvaging that backlash. Remember that Ash Crimson had a really fucked reputation up until post-XIII and the worst he did was be a massive cunt.
>>491837505>First of, I doubt it's worth canonizing that aspect from the OVAs for Terry. Second, it's understandable why Terry and Mary didn't go far with their relationship (Mary fantasizing about him in her RB2 ending aside): Terry wanted to continue traveling around the world even if he had to take Rock with him whereas Mary wanted to continue being a detective. Them being a romantic couple would have gotten in the way of that even if that would have given Rock a mother figure.Yes which is why romance just doesn't work with Terry. He's better off being that lone wolf doing his own things while raising a cub so he can become his own kind of beast.>Hence why I brought up the idea of continuing GDF/FF beyond COTW. If the production team wants to give Rock a love interest, make a new character for that but it's clearly too late to do that for COTW.Would be a colossal waste of time regardless because romance was never a part of his character outside of being shy around girls.
>>491837989>Too hard to justify, especially since Terry is now in SF6. The dood probably wouldn't try to attempt salvaging that backlash. Remember that Ash Crimson had a really fucked reputation up until post-XIII and the worst he did was be a massive cunt.So then Max's devotion to Rock was all fake. Won't even die fighting for his husband.
>>491838096>Would be a colossal waste of time regardless because romance was never a part of his character outside of being shy around girls.He can't be shy forever. If Terry is better off without a love interest and that it's not worth investing on Andy and Mai, we need Rock to have one because this franchise is long overdue for an official couple (in my opinion, anyway).
>>491838398Rock has more important things to worry about than having a girlfriend.
>>491838597such as having a boyfriend
>>491838806Such as making sure his uncle remains top dog in the city and finding out where his mom is.
sorry but everytime i see the term "love interest" i can't help but think of this guy https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3XwXguUCIo8
>>491829834Rock's Geese moves are basically what his dad learned from Tung and Mary's grandpa.Unless you are implying that Heinlein clan got genetic memory of all ancestors moves, I don't think that it's about that.
>>491839525That dark ki Rock and Kain use has to be a Heinlein clan exclusive. I will give you that the whole genetic memory thing is a stretch.
>>491833676Or more realistically they team up and fight an actual villain.
>>491838985That says a lot more about you than whatever point you think you're making.
>>491840023there are no actual villains in the game
>>491840202nopeall your love interests are just a part of sonic's harem in hot chick heaven
>>491839645Pretty sure that in Rock's case that's """GAIA, THE MOTHER EARTH""" power color he inherited from Geese.We know that it comes in different colors, because Andy's is blue.
>>491840865nta but isn't kain's the same color as rock's
>>491841115Ah, yeah, nevermind, I just thought that Geese color was darker like a retard for some reason.I still don't think that the chi color matters much. Like, Cheng's is green, does it make his bloodline special too?
>>491841115also nta, they are indeed both blue, but the meaning might not go that deep as that anon thinks, or it might go deep in different direction. There is only so many colors they can assign, and blue is usually the color of rival (Iori is purple because his powers are tainted by Orochi, who is something like a devil).
>>491841980but rock and kain have the same color and are relatives. both their ki is described as pretty evil.
>>491842170And we know that Rock agonizes over his darker urges and that shows with that ki of his and we see Kain using the same color and type and we know Kain is a bad guy.Not too much of a stretch to consider it might be a genetic thing. I suppose it really could go either way.
>>491842346Geese is also blue. So is Andy, while Terry is yellow with reddish streaks to imitate fire. While people have made up the wild theory that Andy is son of Geese, SNK was clear on it not being the case. He's also not Kain's dad, as that would be really creepy. So sometimes blue is just... blue.
>>491842932Rock and Kain's ki color isn't just blue if you aren't color blind.
>>491844268Upon checking the animations, I see that they also have a lot of purple in it, and Kain also has a move with green projectile and a yellow one (at least in MotW). Rock also has at least one special move with yellow/fire, the one he gets from Terry. Makes me wonder why are we still talking colors, when they got almost the whole spectrum.
With Preecha studying ki, they're probably gonna try to contextualize why some have different colored ki than others. With that in mind there's definitely some intention behind giving Rock and Kain the same color for most of their attacks.
>>491844805Because Rock and Kain are nephew and uncle. They, along with Marie, have the same red eyes. Not forget to mention Rock being Geese's son, and you have the recipe for a story arc that I doubt can be concluded in one game.
Did you play KOF yesterday to celebrate the 30th?I played a couple of ranked KOFXV and finally reached Immortal rank
>>491844805are you stupid?s power supers are blue and p power supers are yellow and that's for like the entire cast, not just those specific characters
>>491850810Are you stupid? People are talking ki colors as proof of relation, while I'm trying to argue colors are mostly just visual design related. Rock's relation is proven by blonde hair and red eyes on top of everything, his ki alone would prove nothing.
>>491850810People don't play games here so they wouldn't know that, they're just your average shoryugame-watching lorefags>>491850704Good job
>>491852963Of course someone would give Mai a whaletail.
>>491852963Obari AF.
>>491852963Looks AI
>>491857085that's what your mom said when you were born
>>491768931I genuinely dislike shipping but you can only do the "will they won't they" for so long before it get's tiresome. Even worse when Mai chasing after Andy is such a core part of the character to be just handwaved away and ignored forever, it has to be addressed definitively when time is now starting to move forward again and we've escaped Dream Match KOF purgatory. The fact that even KOF kind of brought them to be more of a item also shows that they are getting a bit tired of this game in my view.After a decade time skip or whatever MOTW/COTW is if Mai/Andy's relationship still is Mai bitching about where Andy is and why he won't shack up with her I'm gonna lose it. It's a fun dynamic but it's difficult to justify such a relationship with the current game story's timeline. It not coming to it's conclusion will just annoy the lore autist within me despite me thinking characters are better off not romanced. Like, what a gigantic waste of time these two characters history of interactions were. And I have a feeling SNK will chicken out and still keep it vague
>>491828369>KOF being 3v3 has always been an excuse to do less work because the original game bolstered a 24 character roster (bigger than Super Turbo at the time) but only 8 Teams that couldn't be interchanged (same number of endings as vanilla SFII) and since the game was rushed to even come out at all, this was the only way they could have a large roster without sacrificing the story, which was their #1 priority back then for all of their fighters bar SamSho>KOF is inherently built to have less content just to emphasize its roster size which is what I've been saying for yearsThis is gaslighting on levels I've never seen before, completely denying the plethora of fighting games with small roster of characters and denying the hidden endings that came in later KOF games when mixing up character picks. There is no pleasing someone like you, nothing but a constant complainer who sucks to hang around with. I bet you don't have any IRL friends because you drove them all away with your constant complaining attitude. You're basically a Daren, which is a male Karen.
>>491828369>KOF being 3v3 has always been an excuse to do less workNo, more like it's main selling point. Very easy to convince arcade goers or players in general "3 characters for 1 credit" and when games managed to balance the hp out so that it actually felt like fighting 3 characters instead of killing them with 3 combos that factor stuck out even more.Plus there were new sprites being added and even redone. It got to the point with some where their entire spritesheet from 96/their debut game got ship of theseus'd by late NESTS/Ash Saga with new inbetween and attack animations.
>>491857602Mai in CotW is in her 30s, which is an age when a female character is either married or is a frustrated career woman trying to catch last chance for love. It's also too old for the average purity-obsessed otaku, so if they are still repeating the old almost there joke, then SNK is just seriously lazy about their writing.
>>491852963I like the OVA feel.
Imagine...Real Bout: UM
>>491864593>It's just RB2 with EX forms, White and RBS stages
>>491865816Also an Alfred that can go in the second lane.
>>491851837so whats the backstory here? did the clothes glitch out and the developers thought it was funny to leave it in game
>>491866006>did the clothes glitch outNope
>>491866006Sprites can't just conveniently glitch out to show breasts that are accurately sprited, light source and all.It's 100% intentional.
>>491865816Generally base characters movelists off RBS too and you got a deal.Oh, and the "HEY HOW IT'S GOING DUDE" guy.>>491865816
>>491868184>>491868430no its notthe game would have been banned in the 90's
>>491866006Full animation got her getting embarassed, hiding her chest with her hand and going a bit underwater to obscure it further.
>>491868623The only people who would have raised a stink back then was the Anglosphere and they wouldn't have given a shit about FF. Plus you need beat Mary in a certain method in a certain stage to even get that animation.Besides, iirc, Mary covers her chest with her hands internationally after noticing the wardrobe malfunction.
>>491868623>the game would have been banned in the 90'sAre you a newfag or just retarded?I doubt you were even born back then
>>491866006>anon thinks sprites are made by drawing a naked body and overlaying separate layers of clothes over itLmao.
>>491874337I wish. Imagine how many retro titties we would get after disabling drawing of the clothes layer...
https://youtube.com/watch?v=du9SSLBy7Jk
They started releasing old concept art on x.com/KOFstudio_enUnless they hurry up a bit, this could take another 30 years.
>>491878130Based. Boys be boys.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LQ-BGSvTf_4The Dood got to play with SF6 Terry Early. Weird command for Power Geyser
>>491883898Street Fighter players aren't ready for (qcb,db,f+P).
>>491866006The real answer is that CERO wasn't a thing yet.
CHOI TO CHOI TO CHOI TOCHOI BOUNGE OOONDOOOOOOOOOOOO
>>491892980it looks so weird until you realize it’s just a weirdly formatted QCBHCF.HCBF and whatever the fuck the input for Duck King’s super is however…
>>491883898evil ass input, crapcom made the most sinister nefarious power geyser since FF3 triple geyser
>>491878130paul dobson’s billy is one of the reasons i defend this dub
You think XV will get another season pass or will SNK just focus solely on CotW going forward?
>>491900141They're gonna focus solely on CoTW any chances of XV getting further support was EVO and they only showed V&M.
>>491900141I thought it was obvious they wanted to ditch XV after saying Mature and Vice were the """Special Character"""
>>491900141I have no hope for another season pass, cause if they had been making it, then Mature and Vice would be in it, and not this standalone special offer.
I just can't give up hope.
>>491883898It's just the input formatted weirdly. Also he says in the same video that the command is 236236 so which one is it?
>>491902593Here's your (You). Now fuck off.
>>491698314TEAM WCW
>>491904541236236 is Rising Fang from the looks of it.
Terry gameplay in SF6: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QsGQPcQmzIE
so wait, today's post to celebrate kof was just those 3 images?
>>491902593There is still a chance anon. Don't give in to despair just yet.
>>491900141the latter. king of fighters is at best gonna get mobage and maybe a low-budget spinoff like heroines but that's it until kof16 which will probably release sometime in the 2030s.
>>491906964Terry is so based
>>491906964with how ugly terry looks in re:engine, i dread how mai will look.
>>491906986Yes. Shatter all expectations (laughs)
It's over...
https://youtube.com/watch?v=LQ-BGSvTf_4LET'S GOOOOOOOO
>>491916847>Andy is (straight) timeline "My ass hurts">Andy is (gay) timeline "My back hurts"
>>491912801>literal whoWhy do I care about what you have to say? Go post your Twitter elsewhere, SFbaby.
>>491912465fucking hell>>491912801are (you) that starved for attention that you need to make posts like this?
>>491882665>In Mai's ideal world.
>>491920726>"Are you okay? Good! I prefer it this way *unzip*"
>>491883898>geysers the ground to launch himself and punch the opponent even harderHoly shit, Terry, you're supposed to be a good guy.
>>491920898I like that Mai's designs fits just right with Rock and Terry's "simple but effective" design philosophy.For all we know, Andy might get a jacket too.
>>491922001I'm wondering if they'll double down on this design or add a little more to it since it comes across a little like they were just making shit up on the spot, like what happened to Billy
>>491921387I do like that the animation is different depending on if he's wearing the Garou or the classic outfit
>>491695330This reminds me of the Windjammers 2 art style which also looks sick. But honestly, people today would call this a "PS2 game" as well, because you can't see every pore on the skin like in SF6, it's fucking grim.
>>491922224Would be funny if he is the only one who didn't change his design.
>>491922224They'll swap suspenders for a vest and a tie.
>>491920171I like how he has to hide the likes/retweets/replies which shows that tweet got literally no engagement whatsoever.
>>491923801Andy is too much of a ninja imo. The last time we heard about him, he was like "Hokutomaru, your training is finished. The next time we see each other, it'll be a fight to the death".
>>491920726God damn that's one ugly ass crackkka.
>>491922224Andy should get a new super to differentiate from Hokutomaru.
>>491912801Imagine being an Bongfag youtuber so desesperated for attention that you have to post your irrelevant shit here because nobody cares about what you say on your social media accounts
>>491926842Hokutomaru doesn't use Chou Reppa Dan, so Andy's fine.
>>491857168no you missed a few lettersshe didn't just say AIshe said AIIIEEEEEEEE
>>491922432Is that the difference? I thought the super changed depending on the button pressed.
>>491922224I get why people thought Andy was Geese's kid back in the day
>>491922001It's nice that she's more casual now. She was always the flashiest of the FF bunch generally so her being in her ninja outfit was never weird but it's cool to see something more chill to fit in with the rest of the gang.
>>491922001As has been mentioned in the past, part of what makes SNK characters so compelling is that most of them dress like real people, or at least make for relatively easy cosplays.
Ugliness aside, Andy and Joe hyping Terry up in his walkout animation is pure SOUL
>>491844805>Upon checking the animationsSo you don't play the games yet you're here trying to lecture us? Typical neog.
>>491935652We might need an edit of this.
one Kim son will be left for.....Shion
>>491934007That's fake Andy and fake Joe. You can see real Joe in the Pao Pao Cafe (you can tell it's him because he does a Hurricane Upper at the end of a round).
>>491937614>>491937837Yeah, like that.Also, in round 2, Blue Mary gets up on the bar and starts singing alongside Roxy.Also also, if you bust the barrels on the left side, some baby chicks pop out and waddle across the stage.
>>491937989>and starts singing alongside Roxy.is it really confirmed roxy the cute nontrannie poison
>>491938656It could be either her or Poison, and the lighting makes it hard to tell, but generally, Poison is at the point where she's too valuable to be just another Mad Gear background character.
https://x.com/Shinya1499/status/1828026775559102666
>>491938686terry is so damn ugly in this engine. worried how mai will look.
I love how capcom fanboys are coping on how Terry by straight up lying saying stuff like "he's always looked like that", funny how you can tell none of them even glanced at how he looks in his actual games
>>491940815>Terry's always had a big nose
>>491940815They're retards for sure. CotW Terry looks so much more pleasing to look at than SF6 Terry. Hell even XV Terry looks better than SF6 Terry.
>>491941624>Hell even XV Terrythat's a bit of a stretchjust stick to cotw terry
>>491941768XV Terry looks better than SF6 Terry.
>>491942130
SF6 is getting replay takeover, COTW will surely have it as well right?
>>491942519COTW doesn't need that pointless feature. Capcucks can have it.
>>491942519it will take them half the time of implementing replay at all to put in replay takeover
>>491942654Replay takeover is a feature at all levels of fighting game, from Tekken 8 to Dojo Masters.
>>491943335And those games are shit. What is your point?
>>491943452why do you always want less bang for your buckeven if you don't use a feature why do you think subtractive shit is betterit's not like any of your logic like "smaller roster = better balance" or any of that lesser horseshit actually added up to the result that you or your brethren claimed would be the way it would work outit's just a dumb stupid mentality that deserves to be called out as stupid
>>491944019Nobody wants that pointless feature, capcuck.
>>491944261and nobody wants to buy snk games either so it would only have been fitting
>>491944436Given you came all the way here to seethe about them, clearly that isn't true.
>>491945005i did come, baby <3
>>491945410Name a more ambitious KOF (they aren't)
>>491945745kof93 for trying to exist
>>491945745XIII, XIV, 2000, the UMs
>>491947170lol
>>491947431Nice rebuttal faggot.
>>491947529You want a real rebuttal look at the games you listed>Barely finished game with roster filler because of digging themselves into a grave with the sprites. Ambition was "Grafix">Mediocre game that cut a shitton of corners to exist at all, 2010s equivalent of KOF94>Only ambition was trying to make the Striker system good>LITERAL ASSET FLIPSIf fucking 02UM is considered "ambitious" by this fanbase, then it's no wonder SNK thought KOFXV was the most ambitious KOF trying to look like a real video game but again, as I said, KOFs aren't ambitious. They're all pandery asset flips or barely cobbled together games with tons of cut corners
SNK games are so jank. Capcom does Collab's with them because they know it just makes SF look good. Playing old SNK games and it's just nonsensical normals and 0F halfscreen supers everywhere.
491948335Nice bait capcuck. Your general too slow?
>>491948454i'm on fightcade playing MOTW and saying this shit is SNKs 3s is just laughable. Maybe it would be comparable if you were comparing it to SF3 new generation lmao
>>491948028as i saidkof93 for trying to existxiii gets points for them killing themselves for trying to make the game, lack of succeeding doesn't mean the ambition wasn't there, it just means the success didn't follow
>>491950560Not him, but you're retarded.
>>491948335>AIIIIIIIEEEEE NOT THE 0F SUPERSSkill issue.>>491948953Garou is easily better than both NG and 2nd impact.
>>491951102nah that's you
>>491948335dumb slimmer newfag
>>491951796It's honestly better than 3S too because 3S is fundamentally fucked by parry. Just Defend doesn't have close to the same effect that parry has on 3S.
>>491934007>>491937614>>491937837>>491937989So much soul>>491938836It's Roxy due to her hair
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QsGQPcQmzIE
>>491936185Why? Is SNK trying to reach the Bridget crowd?
>>491962394After playing multiple FC tournaments of Garou and having almost 300 hours on 3S, i disagree.Garou may be more unbalanced in comparison, but it's utter degenerancy when it comes to the top tier.I'll take unblockables and Chun's vortex grab loop over fucking GODvin and Grant any time.
>>491966319Meant to say "balanced" there.
>>491966319>but it's utter degenerancy when it comes to the top tier.sounds like a true snk game
>>491965906terry's moveset meshes pretty well with the drive system.
>>491964924>It's Roxy due to her hairlooking at >>491965906it really is hard to tell because of lighting, gonna have to see some ripped models and texture data, and the only data is that of presumption that poison needs to be available to be playable and roxy is too cute to harm instead of turn her into a cute mechanic wife
>>491966882There's good degenerancy and there's the bad one.Like, in Kof 95 everyone is so broken that Rugal is actually legal despite having the easiest TOD.I find that charming.
why did snk not bring him back
>>491968343XIII Team went "lol isn't this reference funny" and the XIV Team didn't even bother justifying why Psycho Soldier was even back
>>491968343Because they wanted to return to basics and most importantly, Ron and Hizoku would be tied to Kensou at this point given that Dragon Spirit and SNK doesn't want to go into that.>>491968782>and the XIV Team didn't even bother justifying why Psycho Soldier was even backBecause they're fan favorites who've been in almost every game? Atleast for Athena.
>>491969095Definitely, considering she was in two games without Kensou. Not to mention, none of them aside from Athena appeared in any crossover games.
>>491969095That mentality is why most KOF Teams don't do anything in the story at all because they're only there to be roster filler and not have an arc in the first place. NESTS-Ash tried to do arcs for characters like Kensou and the Ikaris but end up dropping everything anyway because only Hero mattersIt's also why XV wasn't shy about dropping Kensou and Chin. They just included Athena in a filler team because she's the only one that needs to come back>inb4 who cares about storyI agree, KOF doesn't need a story, and so does SNK because KOF is returning to its roots as a crossover franchise and not as "their main story outlet" anymore so going forward we'll probably see Athena, Kensou and Chin again but in a dream match format since they'll probably be getting actual fucking games if SNK branches out of fighters after CotW
>>491969540Exactly. But when Athena appears for KoF, usually she has her Psycho Soldier crew with her and that includes Kensou, Chin and sometimes Bao. So you don't really need a reason to have them appear. They just do.
>>491969724Story is always going to be secondary for KoF. It's not even exclusive to KoF. It's like this with pretty much every fighting game. Thinking they're going to focus on story is setting yourself for disappointment and not focusing on what matters and that's the gameplay.So really it's not that strange for SNK to just not give that much a damn about whatever plots they had left hanging. Kensou is one of those guys and they like him more as the goofy comic relief hopelessly pining after Athena than the guy with a busted power that's sought out by a shady bad guy group.
>>491969724>we'll probably see Athena, Kensou and Chin again but in a dream match format since they'll probably be getting actual fucking games if SNK branches out of fighters after CotWwell snk did mention that after city of the wolves, they wanted to take a break from fighting games and explore their other dormant ips. like metal slug for example. they also announced a new art of fighting game too.
If the next KOF games are going to just be crossovers with no story, should they drop just official teams altogether?
>>491970529Teams encourage less focus on stories and just focus on the usual so I doubt it. Maybe some spinoffs.
>>491968034well naturallythat's why hokuto no ken is just one of those games people play for its basketball combo stupidity
kensou doesn't want to use the dragon spirit because it would tempt him to seek more power like rugal and nests did. that's why the next kof should have him use the dragon spirit so his moveset could get an upgrade and such. shakes things up for his play style and separates him more from athena even though they were pretty different anyways.his team? just have him pair up with ron and some hizoku goon. that way athena could pair up with chin and bao.
Is Kensou's dragon form in Psycho Soldier linked to the Dragon Spirit in any way?
>>491971042>Athena and Kensou on different teamsThat would be interesting. Doubt SNK would do it though.
>>491971042Why would Kensou team up with Ron?
>>491970529Naw this method is going to justify official teams even more because each official Team going forward is going to represent a game, era or concept. You already more or less have that kind of justification in the original games but it's going to be much easier now>Team Japan/Sacred Treasures (Orochi Saga)>Team K'>Team Ash>Team Shun>Maybe some new Hero Team just to waste people's time>Team Fatal Fury>Team Art of Fighting>Team SamSho>Team Psycho Soldier>Team Ikari>Team Another World 2>Team Woman Fighters to stick Mai in the game if they don't pair her with Andy>Team Boss with some shit like Rugal, Geese and Ron>Team Rival to waste people's time with more OC shit since that's KOF's legacyThat's already 14 Teams. 2 less than XIV and 3 less than XV. The format works wonderfully for crossover slop and unless characters like Vanessa, Hinako or even Heidern can make the jump out of KOF into other IPs I don't think they'll be as high priority going forward
>>491971275They never explain it but it's the common theory.
>>491971042>kensou doesn't want to use the dragon spirit because it would tempt him to seek more powerhe doesn't know that, he's just guessing and that's an offscreen moment of him guessing
>>491971457Because it's KoF. They could invent a reason just like that.
>>491971498>and 3 less than XVexcept that's xv after dlc, the original launch version is 13 teams
>>491971498Don't forget Team Garou since that one has gotten some love over the years. But yes. Your lineup is pretty much how they would pretty much what they'd stick to. Keeps things simple.
>>491971605well regardless the fact he thinks that will probably be what has him seeking power anyway because he's dumb like that. also helps that ron is interested in him so even more positive influence to use the dragon spirit.
>>491971838Season 1 was finishing the rest of the game, even if you have to pay more for it that was clearly what was intended. The only difference between it and CotW is SNK made you pay for XV's DLC>>491971932Team Garou also probably should be a staple going forward but it's already seen as a spinoff of Team Fatal Fury. They could pull a fast one and do something absolutely ridiculous like make a Team South Town which is just the South Town protags Terry, Rock and RyoThere's potential for a lot of things going forward as a true crossover game but right now they need to make games before they can make a crossover
>>491971275Man imagine having the dragon form and other broken dragon spirit shit be part of Kensou's new moveset whenever he returns. It's time he stopped holding back.
>>491971369I had once thought of having Kensou on a team with Bao and Duo Lon against Ron. While Athena could form a team with Kyo and Momoko.
>>491972164>spoilerThat would be pretty cool tbqh. Would put their usual teams in a pickle on who fills their spots though.>There's potential for a lot of things going forward as a true crossover game but right now they need to make games before they can make a crossoverWell given we're getting a new FF/Garou game along with a new AoF game, your crossover team idea of Terry/Rock/Ryo isn't too crazy.
next king of fighters should have rock teamed up with kain and vox. it's high time kain appeared in king of fighters now that fatal fury is back.
>>491972405>While Athena could form a team with Kyo and Momoko.kyo would never team up with them. i can see your kensou/bao/duo lon team happening though.
If story doesn't matter does that mean they will bring back the Maximum Impact characters?
>>491972836Last I checked, nobody cares about those characters.
>>491972836Story was the only reason TO care about those characters. That was back when KOF was "the only thing SNK was doing" so they kept shitting out more and more OCs in desperate hopes to get people to play their gamesIf anything MI represents the worst of what a spinoff can get: its own failed spinoff
I love that despite XII not having a plot there was still a manhua based on it. IIRC, it's mostly the characters fighting Magaki.
>>491973115The 2000s were pretty dark times for SNK and it's fans. I like the era we're in way more.
>>491973210Was it good? I never read it.
>>491970234>Story is always going to be secondary for KoF. It's not even exclusive to KoF. It's like this with pretty much every fighting game.this kills the lorefags
>>491973239would honestly be a pretty solid team. they even have a good reason to team up.>duo lon wants to stop his father who's interested in the dragon spirit shared by kensou and bao>kensou and bao want to learn more about the spirit
>>491973210>No Team K'>But Vanessa and Ramon are thereThey really didn't land outside of the fanbase, huh
>>491973620I just can't understand why people take the lore in fighting games so seriously. Not even the dev teams take it that seriously.
>>491972164>Season 1 was finishing the rest of the game, even if you have to pay moreyeah, exactlyit shouldn't count if it's extra pay for itafterall, this place be legit trying to count the extra 5 in cotw as part of the base game because you DON'T have to pay for it so they can use it to flex on sf6's launch roster in some retarded fashion
>>491973817They do appear in the story along with Nameless since I think 2002 UM was out around that time too.
>>491973823>Says this in the SNK thread>With CotW about to come out>>491973847I can understand the coping when DLC prices are starting to look like this for $70 games
>>491974007>With CotW about to come outEven the story will be secondary like previous FF games. Only difference is FF takes it's story somewhat more seriously than KoF does.
>>491974174Fatal Fury adores its story it wouldn't have the entire MotW cast if it wasn't trying to tell one. You can tell a good story and also focus on the fighting game aspect, these aren't mutually exclusive conceptsMost of the reason fighters have bad stories is because they tend to backtrack on shit and not progress anything. Mainline Fatal Fury games and even KOF have always moved forward and that's usually why these games get more respect in the story department than SF or MK. Tekken and GG are comparable, except Tekken shat the bed with 6 and GG's story was tryhard trash until recently where it became a coffee shop AU
>>491974675Most of the reason fighting games have bad stories because it's core audience doesn't give a shit about it. They just want to beat up their friends.
>>491973847>afterall, this place be legit trying to count the extra 5 in cotw as part of the base game because you DON'T have to pay for itWhen there is literally no other way to buy the game except day 1 + season 1 as a single package, you don't have much other choice than to say season 1 is part of the base roster. That's how SNK rationalizes it as well: the base roster has 22 characters, with 17 being available day one.
>>491974675>Most of the reason fighters have bad stories is because they tend to backtrack on shit and not progress anything. Mainline Fatal Fury games and even KOF have always moved forward and that's usually why these games get more respect in the story department than SF or MK. Tekken and GG are comparable, except Tekken shat the bed with 6 and GG's story was tryhard trash until recently where it became a coffee shop AUthis has to be a joke. almost none of these games move shit forward as much as you think. they will bend the knee to fan demand with a certain character even if they get killed off. that's why they have characters getting revived or dying just to come back the next game.
>>491973823Because these guys are probably shit at fighting games, but we always get some really rabid and retarded lorefags in here who sperg real hard when they get called out and lash out to everybody like the schizos they are
>>491974675>GG's story was tryhard trash >trashIt was based on Bastard and that's a fucking amazing manga>until recently where it became a coffee shop AUYou mean it became absolute pussy ass shit in Strive
>>491975335Yes that's exactly what I meant
>>491975043and it's said they "have no plans" but i trust snk with saying something as far as i can toss chang koehanonly time will tell that the base game you buy a year later after its release, 5 years after its release, and so on, will include those 5 characters for free`
>>491975192They can like the story and lore but thinking it needs to be on the same level as the gameplay in terms of focus is where the problem begins.
>>491974675>KOF have always moved forward*gives kyo back his headband*kyo and athena are still in high school
>>491975458where i'm more concerned is not that but having a game that's 60 dollars actually be worth 60 dollarsor it gets chugged into the discount buy pile (if i even decide to do it)in fact, can't think of a recent purchase that has been at full price outside samsho on switch when that came out
>>491974675One thing I love about Guilty Gear's story is how Ky went from "Fuck Gears" to literally fucking one.
>>491975489The floating timeline of KoF is why people need to shut the fuck up about muh story and lore. It's just a big all-star dream match. The story is irrelevant in the grand scheme of things.
>>491975458I argued with a retard months ago, brought up the exact same points and he just spergedBe ready to get called either a Capcomfag, a Strivefag or just an "esports fag"
>>491975708>It's just a big all-star dream match.could have just been one a la hanna barbera wacky races but it stopped being that in 99you guys who say "lore doesn't matter" don't realize it was snk's fault to begin with to raise it to greater importance
>>491975847Odds are that anon either sucks at the games or doesn't play them and just watches the arcade modes online.
>>491975981SNK only pretended to care about story in order to try to get in more people and try to compete with their rivals such as Capcom. Once they realized people didn't care as much and SNK went bankrupt and then get brought back, they stopped giving a shit about story.
>>491969540>Not to mention, none of them aside from Athena appeared in any crossover games.Obviously, popular characters take priority but I also don't think popularity is really necessary to be in a crossover especially when Raiden and Ryuhaku show up in CVS2. Also, Chin is in Puzzle and Dragons if that counts.
>>491976254>in order to try to get in more peoplehow much did they need to add to get to 9k
>>491975981I feel like series like Fatal Fury and Art of Fighting not having new games for decades didn't help matters. Some people probably know Terry, Mai, Ryo, and Athena for appearing in KOF more than in their original series unless you're a diehard fan.
What are the odds we get another Psycho Soldier game? We got that one weird AU game concerning Athena back on PS1.
>>491976457terry at least isn't captain falcon where he isn't doing his own genre at leastbut noone will ever know the fun of experiencing the first ever fighting game dramatic battle mode
>>491976370I feel like Raiden was in Capcom vs. SNK, mainly so he could be a rival for Zangief.
>>491976410You need to stop seething, SFbaby.
>>491976694nah-doken
>>491976457And now SNK is correcting this by giving FF and AoF revivals in trying to educate newer fans. Shit like the outcry over Terry being in Smash over Kyo was embarrassing but expected due to the perception that you described.
>>491976474who knows with snk. they seemed serious about wanting to revive some of their dormant ips and given we're getting a new art of fighting game, the sky is the limit.
>>491973210That manhua is a very loose adaptation of XI's story mixed with Nameless story.
>>491976980>the sky is the limit.and so is the skill level of the devs and that's an even lower ceiling
>>491976694>>491977058
>>491976846At least Smash Bros. referred had Terry's home series be Fatal Fury and not King of Fighters. Though, I do like that we got a ton of music and cameos from other SNK games. Mai couldn't make it for obvious reasons.
>>491976474It's 100% going to happen. Whether it's a console game or mobile game, it's definitely going to happen before the next KoF.
>>491977361Yeah. We know Sakurai and Nintendo had respect for Terry and his origins given they would have been around when FF was out before KoF. Even still, they did supply Terry's inclusion with other SNK music. Hell they even had his stage be the KoF ring with other SNK characters in the background. Characters who appear in KoF games.
>>491977370they'll do the magical girls theme with athena.
>>491977214lol
>>491935652It's only polite to check one isn't misremembering the color before posting, but politeness is obviously an unknown thing to an ape like you.
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