>General Info on Final Fantasyhttps://finalfantasy.fandom.com>What version should I play?http://pastebin.com/nDC7j5bn>Final Fantasy Pixel Remaster Trailerhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XdLsIQEGj-E >Final Fantasy XVI Infohttps://na.finalfantasyxvi.com>Launch Trailer "Salvation"https://youtu.be/_CrV3hkJuvs >DLChttps://youtu.be/RecsFD6SWfchttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aveDvd66clk >PC Trailerhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LBqpFlA_4Is >Final Fantasy VII Rebirthhttps://youtu.be/WgdkN2tCAFw>Final Trailerhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q56cRDseTGQ >Final Fantasy VII Ever Crisishttps://youtu.be/afTX-30KkaE>Dissidia Final Fantasy Opera Omniahttps://www.youtube.com/@DFFOperaOmnia>Final Fantasy Brave Exvius: War of the Visionshttps://pastebin.com/1yvynbW8>Final Fantasy Brave Exviushttps://pastebin.com/mwANP4fD>Final Fantasy XIhttp://www.playonline.com/ff11us/index.shtmlPrevious thread: >>492345441
XVI killed the series and BE is dead with OO.
FFBE2 will SAVE the /FFG/C
reposting to see what other anons think when more people come: if they wanted to bring tidus back in 10-2, wouldn't it have been better to do something like have yuna reference tidus to keep the memory of him alive?kinda like how the hymn of the fayth originally came from zanarkand and its use in current day ff10 keeps zanarkand alive in a way even though everyone who lived there died?>Let me tell you about the Hymn of the Fayth. It was once a Zanarkand song, sung in defiance of Bevelle! Of course, the Yevon clergy of Bevelle forbade it. Then, as these things often go, those who disliked Yevon began to sing it. The Al Bhed, for instance. The Hymn of the Fayth became the symbol of defiance against Yevon. Yevon could do nothing but capitulate. They lifted the ban on the song, and spread a new story. They said the hymn was a song sung to soothe the souls of the dead. And so saying, they took the song and made it scripture. That's why today, the hymn is sung all over Spira. You could say that, though Zanarkand is gone from this world, it lives on in the song.in the same vein as the hymn of the fayth's original meaning being lost while also keeping zanarkand's memory alive, maybe after people seeing yuna repeatedly doing tidus' whistle or something it could've gotten turned into a greeting in spira or just besaid.
I liked FFX, but I liked FFX-2 even more.
>>492611412Daily reminder that some people really need to figure out that you can dislike stuff without making it part of your personality. You don't have to go out of your way to remind everyone every time it comes up, and argue with anyone who does like it
>>492611412Based
>>492611559FFXVI is the quintessential Final Fantasy.
>>492612079Whenever someone criticises a game I like, even a little, I know they hate everything and their entire personality is about hating the game I like. They don't exist as a person. They are just a ball of rage that exists only to say negative things about the game I like.
>>492612457BASED
One true love and kissu chu!
Reading these threads is always a good jaw exercise
>>492612079BASED BASED BASED BASED BASED BASED BASED BASED
>>492611412>BE still in OPcute game, where can I play it?
>>492611412Who's this bitch?
>>492612652If a poster is getting on your nerves, tell them immediately.
>>492612725That's what I was doing
IV is the quintessential Final Fantasy.
>>492612652never fails huh
>>492612705In japan
>>492612708My wife.
>>492612870If I knew telling him I was mad immediately worked this well I'd have done it years ago
>>492612870you got one too
>>492613324I've been doing that since the beginning. I could never hide when he touched a nerve.
>>492612079Fpbp
>>492613398We're all here, and we all have unique insights. But one thing unites us: none of us will ever say what started this.
>>492612616Cute!
ffxi mobile could have saved final fantasyfuck you nexon
>>492612457Wise>>492613589AND canon
>>492613448thats not the first postThis is >>492611559
>>492612864imagine had we gotten an FFIV remake in the vein of this.
>>492613619I'm still mad.
>>492613916also where is Cid? they just left him out?
... we did... helluva lot better than 7R multiverse slop too
>>492614512i had this in my mind even when playing PR version. every scene enacted straight from the DS version. too bad V (somewhat) and VI will never have a remake, despite Dissidia having the 3D models.
>>492614512>>492614791nooo why would you want this just play the original reeeee Nomura did a great job with the SMRPG Remake too
>>492614512They don't use the word multiverse in the game so you don't get to criticize it for being a multiverse
>>492615305>>492615305i still have the 3D version on DS. Augmentation and their stats.
it's funny how both TTGL and TAY were launched in the same year.
>>492613729I have filtered all the other so post so this one is the first post for me>>492612079
>>492608167Butts, LMAO.
Aerisu!
ff5 is the quintessential final fantasy game! name 5 final fantasy games and why you like them. that's all you have to do... why is OO still in the op?OO belongs in the op! stop trying to vandalize it! ff16 is the perfect ff game. 10/10. okay! i believe you! why are you so obsessed with me? stop saying tifa was inspired by an eroge character! barry テｲーダのチンポ気持ちよすぎだろう! some people need to accept you can dislike something without making it your personality. now say it again but without crying menagereview scores sales faggotry xitter screencaps final fantasy? monke killed ff16 stop stealing my screenshots! what ff topic would you like to discuss, anon? i'll discuss it with you. yoshida frenchie samefagging
I liked FFI, but I liked FFI-0 even more.
>>492612079FPBP>>492612365TPBP
>>492616410Sounds like we finally broke you
>>492616410>the final straw was someone asking you to discuss FF with themWow
>>492614512It's a shame that VI never got the same treatment that IV got. It desperately needs it. With how often IV remakes and rereleases IV, you'd think it was the quintessential Final Fantasy game or something.
>>492612365FFXVI was life changing for me. It made my life better. But I also forgot about it once BG3 came along.
>>492616697my post formatted oddly.i was trying to make it look like this basically: ________x shitpost_______shitpostshitpost___________________________shitpost________shitpost_______________________shitpost______________________________shitpost_______shitpostkinda like the jecht shot minigame in ff10 where tidus' thought are distracting him and you have to make them go away
>>492616410you learn to block out the noise, you need to engage with actual topics
>>492617120i know. i posted about ff10 a lot recently and got some discussion back. i was just trying to be funny with a shitpost.
>>492616410>>492617036
>>492617246There's nothing wrong with having fun. It's a shame when someone immediately assumes the worst, takes it personally, and gets mad. And it van be hard to convince them to calm down if they're particularly sensitive.
>>492616410>now say it again but without cryingthis but unironically.
I like terrible games with boring combat and shallow characters like Noctis.
>>492617730yeah, of course! anyways, i wish everyone a good day and hope you all continue having fun with final fantasy as well!and it probably sounds weird but the slightly chaotic yet predictable nature of this place makes it kinda fun.
>>492618203Oh yeah, I love this place too. One or two overdefensive types can't ruin it for everyone. I just decided one day to consider them part of the appeal. I've enjoyed your X takes by the way.
>>492617359In the next few years, /ffg/ will be filled with KH posts because Kingdom Hearts is becoming a real Final Fantasy. I'm not even trying to shitpost here. It is inevitable.
>>492618170Noctis is cool stfu
>>492618586yeah, i'm fond of all the anons here. i'm glad you enjoyed some of my ff10 posts as well!it makes me happy when i can discuss things i love with others.
>>492611412I liked OO, but I liked BE even more.
>>492618762Of course. Final Fantasy has always been Kingdom Hearts, after all.
>>492619417what's in those BE artbooks SE sells?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UgfbO_HcSskit hurts knowing ill never be able to hear this on my phone againffbe got me through some awful times and i hate what gumi did to it and how it ended up
>>492616410Cosplay wars.
>>492619417What was good about BE? I never played it.
>>492621295Better FF game that most of the recent main games
>>492620004Lots of official arthttps://imgur.com/a/ffbe-art-works-work-progress-incomplete-of-115-done-uploaded-by-u-fulwater-tPgbGhttps://photos.google.com/share/AF1QipPZav533Dz6IDKSWG0XSHfeDuQ-2Fc8Mb8cuabsP4mcxSCq5AeBbWzD8EaxMnW-eg?pli=1&key=cFJJSVR3VGNROHhqbFU4QkRMUlM4N0U4Ym5saEN3
>>492621295had all of the characters we loved and cool team building and roles and items and equipment and espers and a story and music and the CG for limit bursts were cool to fangirl over until they got old and you turned them offalso it was really well balanced for a f2p player to be able to research and save enough to plan for a good team to aim for to beat contentoh and all the challenge boss fights were super fun even the annoying ones youd have to look up
>>492621203
>>492611559FPBP
>>492611412fpbp
>>492611412>>492611559both me btw
>>492618762KH has purged all the Final Fantasy from it, it's all disneyslop and the worst written fanfiction in the world
>>492623835>worst written fanfiction in the worldDawntrail exists
>>492624058Oof
Miss me yet?
>>492624058LolLmao even
>>492624058This
>>492624058So sad and yet so true
>>492626101I'm sorry for everything bad I said about you Fujokawa, prease come back!
Alright just bought the XIII trilogyAny fixes or mods I should know about? I see a bunch of upscales and stuff on the nexus pages but not sure if it's just all worthless AI slop or if there's anything worth using
>>492624058the expansion so bad it united both pro and anti Yoshida factions
>>492627078>united both pro and anti Yoshida factionsThe anti-Yoshida factions have never played XIV, they just spend their entire lives shitposting about him. The pro-Yoshida faction knows that the Dawntrail sucks because Hiroi and Kate (under Yoshida's distant supervision), but at least the content has been fun so far. They just need to bring back the A team, but the A team is probably on another project.
>>492611820I played X-2 just to jack off to the girls back in the day
>>492627556How are those steam reviews doing?
>>492627853>the Dawntrail [MSQ] sucksIf you tried to read instead of just looking for something to shitpost about, you wouldn't have made your post.
>>492613916Sold by chapters and abandoned when it didn't sold as expected
>>492613916It might have been kino, but at the same time I would hate to see IV become bastardized like VII has. The 3D Remake was probably the best that could reasonably be expected, and I am thankful for it.
>>492627853I don't pay attention to steam reviews because 80%+ are poor NEETs living in their parent's basement trying to dig into their FUPussy to scratch their balls.
>>492612705oh no NO NO NO NO
maybe they can remake FFVI using BE graphics, and I mean the CG reels
>>492628009t.woke lamat furfag simp
>>492611412The OP image is cropped porn btw
>>492633653Nice!
In your honest opinion, why XVI flop?
>>492633653I don't believe you.
>>492612705>>492630627Right here, newfriendhttps://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.square_enix.android_googleplay.FFBEWW&hl=en_US
>>492573235I still wonder when Cor left and returned to Insomnia relative to his time as "Jack"; though I suppose ultimately that is the joke in his emotional energies in the entirety of FF Stranger of Paradise, is that he enjoys every second of the slaughter in his pursuit of "chaos" making it "paradise" for him; while in contrast doing the exact same thing, in insomnia, is a depressing nightmare seemingly without end; thusly one wonders when Cor was taken from the world of Eos, and what his subsequent "view of the world", and how it had changed since, his return from Cornelia, after making himself a living embodiment of chaotic energies.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YcLzr1SWV6M
>Apparition save us from the Siren>Just happens to teleport at the exact right moment to zap the king>Just has a telepathic moogle inside her roomPlaying 5 for the first time and Galuf's granddaughter is way too competent to not have something wrong going on with her.I'm betting on her being guided by some true villain hidden behind Exdeath
>>492635349
>>492634462LMAO BTFO'dOOfags aren't very smart
>>492634080it isnt turn based
My wife Eiko is cute!
Anyone got a good place to pirate stranger of paradise?
>>492612705You can still download the game for free right now on Google Play and the Apple App Store! Hope you enjoy your time with it! :)
>>492632228What? No. Are you even reading or are you just shitposting. The Dawntrail MSQ sucked. Just read, shitposter. If you only knew how to read you'd save yourself so much headache that you cause yourself>>492627556>>492628009
I still don’t understand why they couldn’t just keep OO GL running if it was still making money.
>>492638627Support Square Enix so they can keep making excellent games like Rebirth and XVI.
>>492630627>>492612705samefag or retard?>>492634462>>492638627btfo'd
>>492611412In terms of prophecy; what does one suppose that the "modern world", namely /pol and secret soceities that have been utilizing the manifestation of the energies of Chaos, ancient spirit of darkness, and in terms of prophecy and final fantasy, how should events be looked at in regards to Final Fantasy IV and the Dark Knight/Paladin known as..... "Kek il"https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JGRXVvF_r7o
>>492639534That game was getting too bloated. Hell, when I quit midway into the Burst era it was unbelievably bloated and unorganized. Some characters didn’t get updates or weapons for a year while others got the shiny new toys regularly. Characters rotating out of meta in a month. HP sponge bosses. Unit kits overlapping making them less interesting.The mechanics blurred - no distinction between bravery and HP attacks because every attack does both. No point in defensive utility because every character gets massive bravery refund so you didn’t need to worry about when to HP attack ever. Just mismanaged and garbage later on - but it had fun coop and I appreciate the core gameplay loop so I would play an OO2.
>>492639534>if it was still making money.LOL
>>492643994>Some characters didn’t get updates or weapons for a year while others got the shiny new toys regularly.I FUCKING hated theseMost of my favs were stuck with no Burst or FR
>>492643974Certainly; looking at the spelling, one has to wonder what it would have to do with a Goddess of Magic, prophecy, and the ages.... and that it literally references..... bringing the promise to..... EARTH.....https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1gqHaAozihUOne to be bornFrom a dragonHoisting the lightAnd the darkArises high upIn the sky toThe still land.Veiling the moon withThe Light of Eternity,It bringsAnother promiseTo Mother Earth withA bounty and mercyBirthed from womb of Dragon's mawAnd borne unto the starsBy light and darkness cast aloftAre dreamtide oaths reswornMoon is swathed in ever-lightNe'er again to know eclipseEarth, with hallow'd bounty reconciledYet fleeting is the reverieWhen moon from shadow has egressedGuided forth anew by light made manifestTwo bound by ties of bloodBy Time and Fate when wrest apartUnto lunar light and Gaian breast
>>492612705>OOkek so butthurt by that joke that he can't even do it rightSuch many cases
>the guy who shitposts with various FF girls is still shitposting with various FF girls
>>492644147It was making more money than XVI
>>492645934no need to announce your presence, butthurt schizo friend
>>492646127lol
>>492612705Lots of BEapes seething at this oneGood job OOchad
>>492639534Team Ninja moved on to the Atelier gacha.
>>492648450except you can still play FFBE in japan and its getting new content, but OO is dead worldwideget fucked DFFaggOOtExviusCHADS stay BRAVE
>>492648450>OO EoS>incessant shitposting, still to this day>even before EoS, it was shitposted multiple times per day, and it has a schizo who made the same shitpost every thread for 5 years>BE EoS>people actually talking about the game, not much shitposting really>actually, there's more shitposting about OO than there is about BEThe BEapes have always been the shitposters.
>>492643779Butthurt offtopic schizo-chan...
>>492645934>>492649190Yup. Sad sight to see. Though I disagree on the eos part, they decided to behave themselves on the day when they finally RIP'd.
>>492640574>30 years later..... and still no sarcastic moogle with a new yorkish accent with a disproportionately deep voiceLiterally interviewing for robot chicken decades before it was released.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d15qmRzn2Pc
>>492649498who the guy in the picture behind him is; i don't know
>>492648450Are you retardedor just pretending? The game is still upPeople calling your shitpost stupid because it makes no sense != people seething at a shitpostRetard
>>492649212All you had to is answer "retard", brOOThat post was only asking
>>492649190If this thread is any indication, the OOfags are the actual shitposters
idk anything about gacha but OO looks more like a Final Fantasy gameBE looks like someone's OC donutsteel fanfic
>>492648828BASED
>>492650572i bet you also cried like a little bitch when cloud wasn't in ffviii (if you were even born back then)
>>492650245lol no>>492650572OO was a love letter to Final Fantasy. It only had FF characters, it had FFX's combat system (with Dissidia's BRV system), and for dozens of characters it was the first time they had an official voice, directed by Tetsuya Nomura. The OO voice lines are still used in other games, like WotV. I didn't play BE, but the reason I didn't is because of those donutsteels. I played WotV for a little bit, and I hated how all of the actual FF characters were like once per year FOMO bullshit.
>>492650776Hi shitpOOster
>>492651101How is anything I said a shitpost?
>>492650776That sounds pretty cool. Maybe I'll check out the video on it in the OP. Thanks for sharing your experience with it.
>>492650731OOfags/BE haters don't understand that other games can have their own original story and characters and still be an FF game
>>492651285>Maybe I'll check out the video on it in the OP.I can't vouch for the story. I didn't pay any attention to the story. I just played it for the FFX turn based goodness.
>>492612705both GL and JP are still up, please be smarter next time you shitposthttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=flUKynBU77I
imagine not liking rain wowwww
>>492650572There is something very RPGmaker-ish about BE's cutscenes. Feels very cheap.
>>492652158That's easy though?Now not liking Lid...
>>492650245>just ignore the past 8 years, bro!Nah, you guys fucked /ffg/ into ruin. Gumi simps aren't human.
>>492653187there is no way we are comparing OO vs BE story in any wayplease dont even go there that is just sad OOfags...
>>492651318That's a very weird cope. Doing all the mental gymnastics to arrive at that conclusion of all things.
>>492653491Jeetsir, I was talking about BE's cutscenes. In no way did I ever refer to OO. I know what you're thinking, "the other anon was talking about it!!!" But I was not.
>>492653739NO ONE IN HERE CAN EVER PRAISE OO SARTDDTotalDissidiaDeathmillions must eos
i fucking love BE's power level wankseeing rain and lasswell get stronger is fucking kinoi'm gonna miss it
>>492653407>>492653571Sorry they live rent free inside your head, sister
>>492653739I agree about them looking like RPG maker cutscenes, maybe all the budget goes into the CGs and spritework
>492653407most believable shitpOOster post
>>492627001Google the FFXIII modding Steam page that has a full guide That means get the fix and the necessary HD character model and texture mods. It's not just AI upscalesI also really like the hard mode and retuned chrystarium mods on nexus
>>492654861>observing people in this very thread>r-rent free...That's a cute coping mechanism.>492655208>being in denial of reality...Wow.
you guys not passing out (you)s is really REALLY rude seriously
>492654861What lives rent free? who is mentioned in >>492653571?
>>492655385They are NOT going to like you telling the truth like this.
>>492655385>That's a cute coping mechanism.You seem to be an expert on the subject
>>492655989lmaOO!
>492655989>non-sequitor>n-n-no U!Coping about what? BE's gonna join it and they're gonna be an amazing duo up there.
>>492655989oh nononono nOO!
>>492656402And this is why the shitposter keeps OO in the OP.
>>492656402As a BE player I couldn't care less if it's in the OP, seems unnecessary? Most of us already played the game (for far too long, this should've ended at S2) and laughed at the corny writingHopefully the other gacha players learn to do the same, seems like it wasn't an issue with RK and Mobius though, which is kind of confusing
mobius...what a game.....
>>492656863>As a BE player I couldn't care less if it's in the OP, seems unnecessary?This is also true for OO players. There were only like 1-3 anons who cared about the story, Vaynefag was one of them (he's gone), most people didn't give a shit about the story, and yet it's in the OP.
>>492656863k-kino?
>>492657457>>492656863samefagOO stays in the op, cry more
>>492656863>>492656696>>492657457If there were official uploads, RK and Mobius would also be in. They're handy to see stuff from something you can't normally see. Hell, we could probably put the S-E music channel up there as well.You're gonna have to deal with it.
>>492657743>samefagNo, schizo. >OO stays in the op, cry moreEveryone knows by now that you are dead set on OO being in the OP so that you can continue to shitpost it. It's not like anyone has any say in the matter.
>>492656863The joke of people saying a given narritive/arc only last so long is that the conclusion of a given arc leads to...... Eternal Life.Meaning that all their stories go on forever. Thus the story isn't that BE was canceled; though it was, but rather that Final Fantasy will be with humanity though the entirety of the age of Aquarius, and of their stories and arcs, which will continue at the hands of Square, will continue for hundreds, and then thousands of years; thus even when Final Fantasy numbers in the hundreds, you'll still hear from the peoples in the earlier "arcs".....food for thought, for those looking at the long list of people you can summon in FFBE, and wondering what the lesson could possibly be......
>>492657743You can keep it though?>>492657939I'm just saying, I doubt that the BE uploads will be the whole thing because JP is still going on, it's just going to be the part that they didn't finish in GL, which seems even more niche and not something someone who hasn't played would care forAnd why do they have to be "official" uploads anyways? Mobius had a more worthwhile story (until the Sophie part) including its collabs (Especially the VIII one), but it never had an official upload, even though there's plenty of unofficial ones out there
>>492657979shitpOOster...
>>492656863there's something really off about this type of 2D
>>492658583I hate the Borg; the idea of being enslaved at the neural level, where you're forced to watch as your body moves like a puppet regardless of what you choose to do.... That the Valkyrie and Valhalla are the ultimate joke in the eyes of "survival" minded people, who care only about clawing at a breath, regardless of values, and fuck you to the Borg are the funniest part to anyone who understands that liberty and freedom are underpinned and guaranteed only through blood and "pointless" death in which no personal gain is to be had, other than the legacy built for your fellow human beings, many who are so blind, selfish, emptyheaded, and short sighted that they don't even understand or appreciate it.... Yet, the battle is given, even against near "impossible odds", because 1 in 1000, means that you can still win; and the fight and bravery, in the face of fear and death, is proof of value, meaning, choice, bravery, and determination.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qIuPagYDBwE
>>492659716It looks better in the actual fight scenes but yeah some story cutscenes look off, especially earlier into the gameSomeone said kinda like RPG makes and I can see it
why couldn't they make Mobius into an actual game
>>492659945*RPG Maker
>>492659735Playing FFBE last night when Star Trek First Contact was on Pluto TV.....https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AA7g9hKHq4A>The battle against the Borg Zombies.....imagine how absurd telling the Valkyrie, the choosers of the slain, that battle against impossible odds is futile.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gd7XUC6fGO4
>>492660347Dunno, I LOVED the story but the gameplay was some hot ass garbage
>>492655989yOOu made the shitposter mad
>get btfo, pats his own post on the backLoving Every Laugh Everytime
>>492662384The OOfag in >>492612705>>492630627?Yeah, such many cases
>>492662531kek got her
I think tonight I will play VI.All this talk of V got me thinking about it but it's too soon for a replay, so VI it is instead.
I would like to formally state that I want BE to stay in the OP if OO gets to stay.
>>492668569I mean, JP is still going so it deserves to be there more than OO
>>492668956it also still hasnt technically hit EoS yetwhich, OO hasOOFAGS CANT STOP TAKING Ls
>>492668569>>492668956All gachas should be removed from the OP. Then I, too, can disappear... forever
>>492669223Even if all the gachas disappear all of a sudden, you'll be here forever
Why OOfags so active lately
>>492669687damage control after trying to make a joke about BE being dead but not realizing that it's two months too early
>>492669818Plus only GL is dying. JP got renewed for another season even.
>>492670124I wouldn't be surprised if JP BE goes for the ten years, heck I think JP RK is about to get there, I haven't kept up with it since they added Clive though
>>492669687>uptick in OO shitposting >uptick in OO anti-shitposting>both, somehow, the result of BE GL EoS announcementReally makes you think.
>>492670537??The day it got officially announced (Because people knew about it for at least a month) things were civilThe only "shitposting" was after people made fun of this guy >>492612705 for making a bad joke and then trying to damage controlSounds like you didn't spend enough time thinking
>>492611412Square Enix should make a Star Wars game.
>>492670537OO shitposting is a constant thing though? Thanks to people like this >>492657743
>>492656863Is it Sithposting time?
>>492673784https://arch.b4k.co/vg/thread/425556315/#q425685637https://arch.b4k.co/vg/thread/425556315/#q425686063https://arch.b4k.co/vg/thread/425556315/#q425686157https://arch.b4k.co/vg/thread/425556315/#q425687449https://arch.b4k.co/vg/thread/425556315/#q425688076https://arch.b4k.co/vg/thread/425556315/#q425689952https://arch.b4k.co/vg/thread/425556315/#q425690224etc
>>492673784Always was
Tell me about sand.
>>492674928I hate sand. It's coarse, rough and irritating, and it gets everywhere.
https://finalfantasy.fandom.com/wiki/Oversoul_(Final_Fantasy_X-2)FFX and FFVII take place in the same universe, even in XIV
>>492676421
you now remember uncanny white tidus
>>492611820there are other things beside the hymn of the fayth that keep the memories of others alive too.you could say the "brotherhood" sword keeps the memory of chappu alive (even though he never used it).you could say the jecht shot keeps the memory of jecht alive.ff10 might've been going for a thing of "people die but they live on through memories/things connected to them that were left behind."in a broader sense, people could still even bond with those who "died" through things they left behind.like how tidus was able to bond with his dad through the video spheres he left behind.even though jecht was hardly present in tidus' life, the things he left behind served as a sort of stand-in for his presence for tidus.though i'm not sure how common this is in 10 as a whole. don't remember much more events that fit this mold so i might just be trying to force a specific meaning here.
I love my wife Aerith.
>>492686031>keep the memories of others aliveand actually, tidus already had something he left behind to keep his memory alive.he makes a video sphere at zanarkand, doesn't he?
Well /ffg/?https://www.youtube.com/watch?app=desktop&v=pLANlDfhfUo
Good morning /ffg/XV Royal was the best Final Fantasy
>>492688910Remake was the best, but there is nothing wrong with the 2D version.
Metaphor: ReFantazio>king dies>you're his son>you go around the world>you become kingthe real Final Fantasy XV
>>492689782don't care didn't ask
>>492689782I have my fingers crossed for this game being a hit just so Rebirth winning GOTY means something. Normally I'd just put it down as more Personatrash but I need it to have a good reception. (But not too good.)
>>492691264Doesn't Rebirth already have Wukong to contend with?
>>492691389The people who actually vote on these things don't seem to be that impressed with it. But I will gladly pretend it's a strong contender to make Rebirth's win seem like a bigger deal. I don't think anyone genuinely feels Wukong is anything more than a 6/10.
>>492691389Do you personally believe wukong is goty level good?
>>492691264I'm glad you've figured out a cope to help yourself feel better if Rebirth wins GOTY
>>492691654I think it's all bullshit anyway. As meaningless as the Oscars or the Academy Awards. Most of the games that have won GotY are underserving of the title, in my opinion.
>>492691760What do you think Rebirth's strongest competition is for GOTY?
>>492693248Every game released in 2024 has been a 10/10. It's not Rebirths fault that it's a million times better than all those incredible games. 2024 will go down in history as one of gaming's strongest ever years, if not the strongest.
>>492689782Final Fantasy?
>>492693404Please name all these incredible games. The stronger the competition is, the better Rebirth will look when it wins.
>>492694191Everyone here agrees it's best if we don't name the games.
>>492694191*loses
>>492694760I understand
Is Final Fantasy Orgin going to get a sequel?
>>492693404>>492694191>>492694760>>492700317Thanks for demonstrating how much it doesn't bother you
>>492702090It bothers me that people are trying to say rebirth winning goty doesn't count because there isn't any competition, when the reality is 2024 is stacked with potential goty candidates we all agreed not to name
>>492702518Normally I wouldn't praise any games other than FF releases but if it helps make Rebirths win look more impressive I will happily act like those other games deserve to win
>>492611412When is square going to stop catering to casuals? It's ruined them
Thirsty MAGIC MILFS near your area
>>492704237Fuck off simp women ruin video games
>>492703981XV is kinoI miss the bros
>>492704361>womenwho?
>>492701316don't punch me
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QPvzaexBHPA
>>492691654I think the playerbase is more impressed by monke game than the critics are. It might beat Rebirth in Players Choice awards, but not GOTY.
>>492703981They already have.FFXIV and FFXVI both have very difficult modes for skilled players.
>war of the virgins is barely doing better than BE was before it got the plug pulledeOOs sOOn!
>>492707176I miss those gidebooks you got when buying a game, specially the PS1 ones that come in those extra thick CD-ROM cases
>>492721847EOS! EOS! EOS!
I started playing FF9 last week, I am at the point in the story where I got a ship to move around the seas. Is it me or the villains up to this point are "meh"[SPOILER]We're introduced to Kuja at the end of disc 1, we see him again briefly in Treno at the start of disc 2 and then during the battle of the Iifa tree. For the whole of disc 2 there's no plot development regarding his motivations, and the only reason the party is after him is that he gave the queen means to wage war.In disc 3 we see him in alexandria but again very little is told except that he wants to capture eidolons, we're then introduced to another new villain, Garland, that supposedly even Kuja fears. Garland seems also to know zidane by name.[/SPOILER]I do not know how much of disc 3 is left but are the villains actions explained later on? because so far compared to let's say FF7 which did much more building of its villain throughout the discs nothing much has happened in ff9. Is it gonna be just one major info dump later in the game?
>>492729426>Is it gonna be just one major info dump later in the game?Yup. FF7 did the same though, if we're being honest.
>>492729426did you learn about zidane's connection to garland yet?
>>492707176 >84 pages handbook>world map>dungeon map>full color bestiary.I want this today too.
>>492730038No, the little I saw of him was he warping into the ship saying something about Kuja having gone overboard this time.
>>492733307you'll learn about the villains' true motives later then
>>492737105Why did AFK journey make more than all of the homosexual games and then also the yume game?
I don't like when the general is dead and slow
>>492744484Want to talk about final fantasy?
I like when the main shitposter and his phones are gone though.
>>492744484Just get the dude who has conversations with himself all the time to do his thing and simulate some activity.
>>492744484Better dead and slow than fast and schizophrenic.
>>492744484Would you prefer we discussed the 10/10 FFXVI?
>>492745007No
>>492745829*0/10
>>492745829based
>>492745829This. XVI won bigly
>>492745960Sadly true.
>>492745829Yes, please discuss it instead of samefagging
>>492744484I'm busy playing Bravely Default right now. The more I play, the more I love it. Square should just let Team Asano handle modern FF games already.They should have figured out by now that not everyone likes their AAA action slops.
>>492745829Why would I want to discuss a game with mixed reviews?
Get help
>>492745829its pretty good
>>492747124LMAOHe really is the Barry of XVI
>>492746650>Square should just let Team Asano handle modern FF games already.No. Team Asano just keeps making the Brave/Default system over and over again. It was cute exactly once. I didn't even finish Octopath Traveler because I was so fucking tired of the combat near the end of the game that I didn't even want to continue playing it. There's a reason that Asano games are basically a "spinoff" of FF and that FF continued on its own journey, and I appreciate that, as should everyone else. We got a Live-A-Live Remake/Remaster because of them. That said, I have not played Triangle Strategy. I have it downloaded, but I haven't gotten around to playing it or Diofield.
>>492747370Afraid not...
>>492747124And he still has the audacity to call anyone who criticises XVI a cultist, when he himself is the biggest cultist of them all.
>>492748137Not Barry, but I refer to him as yoshitpiss all the time because I find it funny.t. xiv player
>>492745018>>492745102>thread dead>you could talk about anything ff related if you want to>would rather complain about a shitposter who isn't postingI guess it's true that some people come here not to talk about FF, but just to dramafag.
>>492748137kekThe funny thing is that this doesn't even catch all the variations the hate worshippers use. Then there's shit like "ziv" or whatever. They have been shitposting Yoshida for so long that are dozens of words and phrases used to shitpost him.
>>492748234not a cult btw
I still don't understand why XVI is used as shitposting fuel. It must be because of its connection to XIV>>492748418You only figured that out now? There are people who only post about Barry all day and never talk about anything else.
>>492748668It was a terrible game in complete opposite ways that XV was a terrible game, but at least XV was commercially successful.
>>492748668>I still don't understand why XVI is used as shitposting fuel. It must be because of its connection to XIVYes. XIV has been shitposted for years, Yoshida has been shitposted for years, and those same shitposters didn't leave the 4chan FF space, they just became predominantly XVI shitposters instead, because XIV is quite frankly SE's cash cow while XVI didn't meet its sales goal (though it did sell more than Rebirth, which did not meet even its initial sales goal), so XVI is an easier target and has less people who have played it. It's still more successful than Rebirth, however.
>>492748668Because the game isn’t good, and some retards in here are trying way too hard to shill it
You would think Dawntrail being a legitimately mediocre expansion would have shifted the shitflinging back on to XIV,
>>492748937>but at least XV was commercially successfulAt least XV didn’t cause the company’s stock to fall to its lowest point in history like XVI did. You should always bring this up because they won’t have any argument to counter this fact. It’s guaranteed to shut them up.
>>492749282The usual suspects do throw in a review score screen shot in with their usual shitpostings, but the focus still seems to be XVI. If SE ever releases information that says no one is playing XIV anymore, then they might divide their focus, but the general consensus seems to be that MSQ bad, content good, and as far as I know SE hasn't released any numbers about it. Trust me, if SE had released numbers that said no one is playing XIV, the shitposters would spam it up and down /v/ and /vg/ less than 1 minute after the news was posted, because in one of the greatest feats of irony the world has ever seen, the people who are most obsessed with Yoshida and know everything about him are his haters.
>>492746923>steam reviews
>>492749661This is false. Those stocks existed because XV promised to make money. It didn't and so those same stockholders bailed.
>>492750327We can do this all day and you’ll still lose, Anon. You’re just embarrassing yourself at this point. You’re the only one falling for your own poor bait.
>>492745829based and triggered the shitposters
>>492750327>>492750838This is what happens when you believe in the conman yoshi-p and need to cope as much as possible after 2 back to back flops.
There he goes, samefagging when he can't win the argument
>>492751446XVI-kun truly is pathetically preditcable.
>>492750794>financially damaging information given out by the game's director gets suppressed and "amended">for absolutely no reason at allIf XV generated any company value at all, their stock prices wouldn't have been so slow to appreciate like they did. Stockholders made zero money because the company made nothing on XV's franchise.
i bought a ps5 for xvi and rebirth and i havent even broken the plastic wrap on either of them........final fantasy isfinaled
It's that time again. It's always that time, it seems. The cult never stops hate worshipping.
>>492751818>I will continue to ignore the fact that I was proven wrong and that tabata never said those things>I will cling to kotaku because I need a win after XVI failed to meet expectations.
>>492750327>>492751818Absolutely irrefutable!
>>492752297You don't need to greentext when talking about yourself, you know.
>>492752661Swing and a miss.Like XVI.
>>492751916this says a lot more about you than the 10/10 Rebirth and XVI, my dude
>>492751818Oh, XV made plenty of profit for SE all right.....from a mobile game
>>492752871..10/10.....i want go back i cant take this anymore
>>492752767Like clockwork.
>>492662531>492663046Troonape...
>>492752940>3/5 stars on most app storesGachafags being gachafags is the only reason why it made that money in the first place. But SE needed it after the billion dollar failure that was XV.
>>492637660The best
>>492611412How's my mod load order? I'm thinking about waiting for that archaeology cut to be finished before starting another run though.
>>492744484I'm playing Visions of Mana and instead of forcing discussion here I'm just posting on /v/ instead
>>492758317isnt that game ass
>>492758562It's excellent.
>>492758938why are people calling it DEI and genshin 0.5
>>492759025I wouldn't call anyone that posts in /v/ culture war threads people
>>492759512touche actually
>>492758242>NinostyleI like everything you've got here except for that. I'm a fan of keeping the OG models or using the Kaldarasha ChaOS mod that makes the models look more like the full size models from the FMV cinematics. QHimm modding catalog has a great collection for the characters that lets you mix and match the models, as well as dynamic weapons and the "field scale" mod that fixes the small size of the characters in the fields. You'll notice that with Ninostyle that the characters look too small for the backgrounds.
>>492758317>>492758562>>492758938>>492759025>>492759512>>492759678Not a Final Fantasy game Go back to /v/
>>492761603Hey nerd, see>>492684969
>>492760670>Kaldarasha ChaOSI agree, that does look better, thanks for mentioning it.
>walk into FF thread>people are saying they like Final Fantasy>I don't like Final Fantasy and thus it is a shitpost>I came here to shit on Final Fantasy>the people who like Final Fantasy are the shitposters>no one loves Final Fantasy more than me>I spend 18 hours every day shitting on it
>>492761603Final Fantasy can be whatever we want it to be.
>walk into FF thread>people are saying they don't like Final Fantasy XIV or XVI>I like Final Fantasy XIV and XVI and thus it is a shitpost>I came here to shit on every other Final Fantasy>the people who like other Final Fantasies are the shitposters>no one loves Final Fantasy XIV and XVI more than me>I spend 18 hours every day defending XIV and XVI
>>492762404If you use the 'QHimm modding catalog' by adding the repository website link into the settings on 7th Heaven, you can get a really cool custom tuned ChaOS mod that has options for weapons and allows you to fine-tune which models you want for which character. It includes the "increased size" mod to resize the models, and the "dynamic weapons" mod which really adds a lot as well. Cloud is now full size, filling up real space on the screen, properly carrying his buster sword/yoshiyuki/ultima weapon on his back...it's a very cathartic image to see him standing there in the game, on an HD backgrounds, looking just like he does on the cover, just like he does in battle. Very satisfying.
Weird how the shitposts vanish whenever a Rebirth or XVI thread is getting hating samefags on /v/, very weird.
>>492763496>admitting he frequents /v/gotta be a yikes from me.
>Pretending he doesn't.What a faggot.
>>492762663>"My take on Final Fantasy, and this is quite deliberate, is I don't restrict it to being any one thing," says series producer Yoshinori Kitase. I'd asked him what he felt was the essence of Final Fantasy, especially as so many fans have their own ideas of what the series should be.>"We talk about Final Fantasy as being a toy box," he continues. "The idea that you take the lid off the toy box and you've got all kinds of different things in there. There's a dinosaur here, you've got your football here and your baseball here. And there are so many different things to play with and have fun. And that to me, that's what Final Fantasy is.">He cites both Final Fantasy 16 and the Final Fantasy 7 remake project as examples of this - for Rebirth, it's about director Hamaguchi's concept of "a really dramatic, deep story experience" paired with player freedom and a massive world. "I think they both added something to the series as new concepts and new directions," says Kitase.It's only bad when Yoshida does it. If anyone else does or says the exact same thing, we like it. >Final Fantasy can be whatever we want it to be.As long as it's called Final Fantasy. Visions of Mana is distinctly not Final Fantasy.
>>492763979>avatarfag admits his life is all about 4chan boardsyikety yikes
>his life is all about 4chan boardsYou're here as well.
>>492763496I've said it before, but it's literally just the same very small handful of people who have dedicated their lives to spending every free second they have shitposting about Yoshida. The mods and jannies are in on it as well. It's "board culture".
>>492763496>shitposts vanish>but instead of talking about final fantasy, you start dramafagging shitposts of your ownIs there a single habitual thread quality whiner who is genuine and isn't just another shitposter complaining about not having enough fuel to work with?
>>492764925>thread is dead for hours>anyone who wants to talk about ff is free to do so>even now, the thread is so slow anyone could have an ff discussion with nobody able to stop them>they STILL discuss shitposters instead of ffEvery day. Every thread. No, I don't know why they do it either.
>>492765186It's just so strange to me that someone could be so concerned about shitposters while also having 0 interest in talking about final fantasy when the shitposters aren't even here.>hey guys, nobody has posted for a few hours, where the shitposters at!?
>>492764414>no youdamn son, you really do think everyone is a no life neet like yourself.I bet the only time not on 4chan is ERPing in XIV.
Final Fantasy is cool
>someone points out thread is dead>thread instantly, as if on cue, resumes its perpetual shitposting about Yoshida>someone then complains about thread quality (it's only ever shitposting or dead)>then someone, unaware of their hypocrisy, begins whining about the complainer>no u no u no u no u no u no u>no one is talking about Final Fantasy, they just ask why the other person isn't>the true shitposter, never losing sight of the target, still manages to make this meta commentary a means to shitpost about Yoshida>thus it is proven that this thread is better dead
>>492765762hold on let me fix that for yousee >>492763048
>>492766083I don't shit on Final Fantasy though. also see the post that you copied: >>492762640
>>492766261see >>492754858
>>492765762You're the only one here who doesn't want to talk about final fantasy
>>492671617>admitting to the people seething at his linked post were shitpostingYou didn't think this through indeed.
>>492766552The preceding conversation, neither person talking about Final Fantasy, did not involve me.
All these shitposting problems would be solved if Dawntrail and XVI were good, but they aren't.
>>492766778afraid so
>>492766778>>492766916Not really. Tonbarry would just shit on yoshida directly.
>>492765762So in summary, XVI haters are massive cocksuckers?
>>492763048Have you tried not being a bitch?
>>492766778The incessant shitposters have been shitposting XIV for years, long before Dawntrail MSQ sucked. They were shitposting XIV even during Shadowbringers, which was highly rated and enjoyed by everyone. It makes no difference how good or bad Yoshida's games are, the only thing that matters to the shitposters is that Yoshida is related to the project. Which begs the question: if Yoshida didn't exist, would this very very small group of (literally) insanely devoted people who have spent the entirety of their life for the past 5+ years magically disappear? Or would the just find a different "Trump" to devote their lives to hate worshipping?
>>492767429can't, too engrossed with xiv and xvi.
>>492765762True.
>>492767487And then a follow up question, I suppose:If Versus XIII had actually released in a timely manner instead of turning into XV and changing hands from Nomura to Tabata, what would the timeline be like then? Barry wouldn't exist. The ramifications of Barry existing wouldn't exist. I dare say, assuming Yoshida is still in this timeline, that the Yoshida haters might not even exist if Nomura had actually released Versus XIII rather than Tabata releasing XV, and Final Fantasy discussion might be more sane than it currently is. I think it's possible that general internet gaming discourse as a whole might be more grounded if Nomura had released Versus XIII instead of it becoming Tabata's XV.
I played Remake first, I've 100% it twice, FF7 OG is an amazing game, and this is my third play through, I cannot wait for Rebirth on PC and part 3 is going to be something truly special. I've also pre-ordered XVI on steam and enjoyed the demo.
>>492767487>enjoyed by everyone.proof?
>>492767396>They want what they've removed.Truly a travesty.
Okay, ATB with wait on is turn based, otherwise it isn't. Can we all agree?
>>492770327thats the only way i playactive is for cucks that allow their enemies to hit them just to feel artificial difficultythat is not the way of the thinker, sitting here on wait with all of these THOUGHTS
>>492770327"Active" with the battle speed set to the fastest setting is "hard mode" if there can be one.
>>492768167We really don't deserve that timeline it seems.It's best to move on and just admit XV is a good game
tally ho /ffg/
>>492768167If Versus released, the KH2 team would stay intact until this year because the Versus trilogy would have taken 12 years to make. That doesn't mean Nomura would change things up, his goal with Versus was to make his swan song/magnum opus and turn his belief system into something you can play like with the 'there is no good or bad' edgelord emo stuff that was starting to become cringe in the mid 10s.The real question would be was Versus a 'real' Final Fantasy game compared to stuff like 10, 7, 8, it was so against the Kitase tradition of character dramas and interpersonal relationships but scoffed at the Matsuno branch for not being clear enough with the social commentary and seriousness. I don't think gamers (especially Western ones) would have liked it even if Nomura would be very proud of it. It would have the controversy of 13 and the "zero levity" shitposts of 12.Yoshi-P would still be responsible for ARR since 14 was a bigger trashfire and artists bounced back and forth between Versus, 13 and 14. The real question is how this impacts KH3, FFCC and SaGa because Nomura used a lot of SaGa and TLR/CC devs in his games. SoP also wouldn't exist because it was Nomura telling his story of how angry he was and 7 Remake could have been a full Kitase game instead of Nomura asking more questions before final signoffs. NT wouldn't exist either and this means 16 could have been turn-based, but Kujiraoka was working on Lightning Returns and not Versus to who's to say.
>>492773376>7 Remake could have been a full Kitase gameIt dawned on me that the Type-0 team (Tabata's underlings like Terada, Nakazawa, Chiba) would have been working 7 Remake even if Tabata stayed on. Type-Next may have been in the works and so is Agni but 7R likely wouldn't be released until Versus game 2 or 3 where Nomura has stuff freed up on his plate. The Dirge team was working on Versus as well so Remake may have felt more like Crisis Core gameplay wise. This means WoFF also wouldn't exist.
>>492773376>>492773680cool fanfiction bro
>>492687357I loveth
7/10ish
>>492775871FF16 was life changing for me. It made my life better. But I also forgot about it once BG3 came along.
>>492776415Understandable. The same thing happened to a lot of people.
>>492775871>10/7ish*ftfy
FFBE > FF16
Visions of Mana > FF16
Yoshida > nomura
https://www.reddit.com/r/JRPG/comments/1f6r1c3/im_enjoying_visions_of_mana_more_than_ff16/
>>492778363https://www.reddit.com/r/enfj/comments/l2bqu2/hello_36yo_enfj_from_the_southwest_represent/
>>492778363btfo clive-oneesans i dont feel so ii kimochi
>>492778363>XVI has lost the fag audienceit's even more over than it was before...
>tonbarry scouring the internet for literallywho opinions against XVI>all of them come from men who look like they suck of other men with their anusReally scraping the bottom of the barrel here.
Nice.
The 9/10ish FFXVI was a pretty great game imo
>>492765720Lightning is hot
Psst, /ffg/. I've got something for you. Word on the street is Itsuno left Capcom because of dissatisfaction over the resources and time he was given for Dragon's Dogma 2 and that he was already looking for a new job before it shipped. One of the places he is considering joining is Yoshida's next big project which happens to be an open world game. Given the other Capcom employees that have moved over to SE, this wouldn't be that hard of a transition for the former Devil May Cry and Dragon's Dogma director.
>>492778363well ff16 isn't an rpg so it makes sense that a jrpg subreddit would say it sucks
>>492782453>Given the other Capcom employees that have moved over to SE,Here's hoping to a spiritual successor to Breath of Fire.
>>492782453>FFXVII is openworld high fantasy kino FF inspired by DD2Ivalice bros are we riding home?
>>492782453>itsuno downgrading like thisno way cultist
>>492782453Does he also have a schizo fanclub and anticlub?
>>492783048Can't be worse than XVI.
>>492786862>Can't be worse than XVI.
FF16 should've been open world
FF16 should've been a good game. How about that?
FF16 is a good game, but your tastes could improve.
>>492789048You can't always get what you want.
>>492778363>zero uptoots>51 commentslol mf got ratio'd
>>492788504Theres no excuse why the areas arent just connected with a fade to black
>>492776415Makes sense to me. BG3 is a game with 10x the replay value of XVI. 400 hours in and I only just recently discovered you can spike the booze and poison the goblin camp.
>>492789862No downboats either. Leddit delays showing them until a few hours after a fresh thread is made.
>>492789048Cmon now you're asking for a little bit to much. You should always lower your expectations
>>492792170A thread cannot have negative upboats. A zero essentially means that it has negative upboats.
>Galuf also dies.You know the spoiler about Aerith dying is so infamous that I always assumed a party member death never happened in the series before and not for it to be so common that only one game in the first five lacked it, II's massacre more than made up for the first game's lack of death too.Interesting that even the "why they didn't use a phoenix down?" question was already answered by having people try and fail.
>>492798705It did, but V didn’t release in the west until several years after it released in Japan, so that death was nowhere near as impactful to the west as Aerith was. That, and it’s somewhat undercut by the fact that you get a functionally identical replacement immediately afterward. Aerith remains a blank spot in your party list for the rest of the game, and the one thing that makes her unique, her limit breaks, also become inaccessible.
Left or right?
>>492798705>>492799819Galuf's death was the most badass thing I've ever witnessed.
>>492800746Leftlight lipstick is hot, dark reds makes women look like clowns
Is SoP better than XVI?
>>492801620In every way.
>>492801620Not really.
>>492791983>spike the boozeNani?? Lmao
>>492791983BG3 sounds based.
>>492746650Goddamn Mrgrgr is some good stuff
>>492801620Yes in some ways. No in other ways.If XVI could have gone further into the Jobs route with better equipment/customization and allowed party member customization and some basic commands in the way that SoP did, it could have been much betterIf SoP had XVI’s visual polish and smooth punchiness in gameplay with over the top production value, it could have been much better. Neither one truly has exactly what FF NEEDS though. I think somewhere in the future a game thats between all of these games like Rebirth, XVI, SoP there exists a balance that has the classic Jobs with deep customization, party members, punchy and smooth flowing gameplay, with ATB bars and commands and synergy abilitiesMostly open massively scaled field with a town with an inn, monsters, a forest, and a cave that connects together with traversal obstacles into the next open area with new flavor and new traversal and storytelling opportunities. Airship travel over the world when you get far into the game. A cool boat for the beginning ocean crossing portions. Use the classic archetypical FF elements but use the best new technology and bring it all together in a way that only they can. After VIIR 3 and the Highwind, I think we are going to see exactly what I described
>>492803304Based criticism>492789048>492789862>492792769homosexual autofellating opinion
>>492803303>MrgrgrStellafag? Is that you?
>>492801620Honestly? Yes.
>>492750327>$500 million to break evengaddamn!
>>492804787Off-topic
>>492805809absolutely nonsensical. spiderman 2 and gta v budgets combined cost that much. retard lolSquare Enix PROFITED on XV in their own financial statements
were these good character designs for ff10?
>>492810460I think that Tidus has one of the ugliest, gaudiest outfits in Final Fantasy, but back then no one cared. There wasn't this seething hate culture that the algorithm created where everyone has been so preprogramed to hate everything that they interact with that it's the only thing they know how to do. He does look like a weird fantasy sportsballer though. I think Yuna is perfectly fine though. Shrine maiden summoner, nailed it, doesn't even look weird, great design.
>>492810803i agree on yuna's.for tidus: i think it looks good depending on who's drawing him.i get that it's gaudy though. a lot of weird elements went into it.but i also don't know what else a fantasy underwater soccer player would dress like.
>>492811035>i get that it's gaudy though. a lot of weird elements went into it.It's terribly gaudy, yes. It passes the magazine test really well, but if you take it out of fantasy, it's one of the loudest and ugliest things I've ever seen... worn by an attractive man (no homo)>but i also don't know what else a fantasy underwater soccer player would dress like.Yeah, me neither. He definitely looks like a fantasy sportsballer chad, but it is incredibly gaudy.
>>492811307it's okay, bro. you don't need to be a homo to know the difference between an ugly person and an attractive person.i guess i'll also ask if you've ever seen anyone improve tidus' design. sometimes i see fanart of alternate design ideas for certain characters but i don't think i've ever seen a good one for tidus.
>>492811307though, i guess there's his shirtless design which removes a lot of the gaudy elements.
>>492810409nothing in that report specifically said XV made a profit, only "contributed to revenue". secondly, line barely go up for years after its release
>>492811745I'm not really in the habit of searching for FF fanart outside of a few girls, so no. Even Shuyin, whose gimmick is that he looks like Tidus, does not improve on the Tidus design; he just starts looking more like a clown or Kefka or something.
>>492812350>nounderstandable>shuyin looks like a clowni never liked his design either. i think it looks worse than tidus' design somehow
>>492628930Why didn't V and VI get 3D remakes like III and IV?
>>492816240They weren't quintessential enough, sadly.
>>492801620SoP is better than XVI in every category except graphics.
>>492801620XVI is better than SoP in every category except memes.
>>492801620Reminder that you are continuing to worship a tweet made by this person.
>>492816240I also wonder why V and especially VI didn't get a 3D Remake. I really would have liked to see a 3D chibi Remake of VI. I wonder if the DS lifecycle just wasn't long enough. It's weird because III came out in 2006, IV came out in 2007, and then The After Years came out in 2013 long after the DS cycle had ended even though it was done in the same style as the DS games. I wonder what happened between 2007 and 2013 to cause them to want to release The After Years in the same style despite not making a 3D version of either V or VI. Maybe it was an asset thing? But then why even bother releasing it 6 years later in the first place? Actually, looking at this more, it looks like this happened:>Team Asano made FFIII 3D>Team Asano made FFIV 3D>...instead of making FFV 3D, Team Asano made FF: 4 Heroes of Light, which is the Team Asano version of V 3D>4 Heroes of Light takes the jobs system concept of III or V and attempts to improve upon it, but it's all jank>Team Asano makes Bravely Default, another game that attempts to improve upon V's job system, this time with the Brave/Default gimmick, and it's good instead of jank>Team Asano makes Bravely Default... again>---Team Asano releases TAY... or, well, Tokita releases TAY and he is on most Team Asano projects as well>Team Asano makes Bravely Default ***AGAIN***, this time it's trying to be FF VI (Octopath Traveler)>Team Asano makes Bravely Default ***AGAIN***, this time it's a gacha>Team Asano makes Bravely Default ***AGAIN***, #2>Team Asano makes Triangle Strategy, Team Asano's version of Tactics Ogre>Team Asano remakes Live-A-Live (Tokita was on the original Live-A-Live, so they didn't try to make their own version, since it's already his)>Team Asano makes Bravely Default ***AGAIN***, and it's FFVI ***AGAIN***>Team Asano is now making Dragon Quest I, II, and III HD-2D RemakesSo, the reason we don't have V and VI 3D Remakes is because Team Asano made their own versions instead (BD and OT).
Where is the Final Fantasy Mystic Quest Remake?https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SUGDp39srk0
>>492821274someone made an unofficial remaster that's butt ugly
>>492816240>>492820808So, in summary, after the IV 3D Remake, Team Asano chose to make their own version of V 3D instead of remaking V 3D. >The FFV 3D Remake is... Bravely Default. Then, after they made that game multiple times, instead of remaking VI 3D, they made their own version.>The FFVI 3D Remake is... Octopath TravelerThere will be no more 3D Remakes by Team Asano. They are now remaking Dragon Quest games.
>>492821274>>492821437>someone made an unofficial remaster that's butt uglyhttps://store.steampowered.com/app/1981700/Jacobs_Quest/Some clarification on this. It started out as a Final Fantasy Mystic Quest unofficial remaster made in RPG maker. However, the creator got Cease and Desisted for using Square Enix's IP. Then, either someone else or the same guy under a different name attempted to turn it into its own game, to bypass the stolen IP stuff, so it's clearly supposed to be Mystic Quest, but it's more like a spiritual successor made by a fan in RPG maker and there is an element of cash grab to it as well because he's charging $25.
i really want a new dissidia
>>492821932Dissidia NT2, coming soon to an arcade near you
>>492611820I've always thought it was ironic of Nojima to call Calm at the end of the game ‘Eternal Calm’. The whole thematic antagonism in X and X-2 is built on a moral distinction between people who learn and are able to let go of trauma and move on and people who are unable to do so, consequently replacing their inability with various world projects of eternity/status quo/ some form of permanence of existence. Yu Yevon was just such a character who projected his psychological stuckness onto the objective world of Spira by creating ever-returning Sin; the same desire to create some form of timelessness we see in Seymour's project and in Yevon's religious teachings. In this context, the name ‘Eternal Calm’ is rather ironic, as if Nojima is hinting that the real problem of Spira has not been solved. And, come to think of it, it really hasn't been solved, since Pyreflies still exist, and strictly speaking a new psychopath like Yu Yevon could arise in the future and try to create some dream world of permanence. It seems to me that X only showed the thematic difference between the ability and inability to let go of trauma on the levels of value and morality alone, but the characters did not solve the fundamental objective problem of Spira's world that allows people like Yu Yevon to emerge (the problem of Pyreflies). This, I think, is an important feature of Nojima as a writer, that he links the solution to some value and moral problem to a radical change in the world itself, its mythology and ontology. We see something similar in the VIIR trilogy, when it is already obvious that the fundamental root cause of the world's conflict lies in the noospherical opposition between negative and positive Lifestreams as of the two kinds of collective unconscious surrounding the planet. The return of Tidus in X-2 is not a happy ending, but a sign that the fundamental problem of Spira as a universum in itself has not been solved in X. https://youtu.be/DjJKHFwLpg4
>>492611820In a sense, as long as Pyreflies as "wish fulfilers" exist in their place, Spira is always in danger of descending into another era of timelessness, caused by ressentiment and denial of the natural course of life.
>>492765720Wondrous Goddess and Enchanting Muse. Or, to put it simply, Claire.
>>492801620yes and it's not even close
>>492801620SoP is a jank game with soulXVI is a movie with some combat thrown in.
>>492822442first of all, i appreciate the effortpost!i always enjoy your writeups too, vanille-anon>pyreflies still exist>wishbringers for people who can't move ontrue. and iirc in the novel or audio drama sin coming back was either related to yuna reviving tidus or someone wishing for sin to come back but i can't quite remember since it's lost in my memory banks of not taking it seriously, laughing, and maybe crying at the ridiculous dialogue.>yuna was... LOOKING AT ANOTHER MAN! oh no!>there's just something wrong with me, said yuna.>well, at least you're aware of it! said tidusgonna have to go through those again someday even though i really don't want to.maybe after i beat 10 again.>fundamental problem wasn't solvedhow would that problem even be solved if it involves pyreflies?get rid of pyreflies?>The return of Tidus in X-2 is not a happy ending, but a sign that the fundamental problem of Spira as a universum in itself has not been solved in X. right, and the novel and audio drama continue with this but it gets really weird iirc.but i also kinda hate how this has to be dragged out.i stand by my thoughts that tidus shouldn't have been able to come back in 10-2.i just think 10's ending resolved its themes well.everything after made it messy and introduced unnecessary conflicts.yuna bringing tidus back (well the fayth bringing him back for yuna) messes with the theme of moving on.and don't the fayth have to start dreaming again to bring tidus back?how doesit even work?they don't give a good explanation.
>>49282402316 isn't a movie gameit's the rehashed bones of a bad mmo jury-rigged into a single player game
>492801714>492805092>492818123>492823519>492824023Threadly reminder that these are the same person.
>>492820808
>>492824465and i get the feeling a 10-3 would basically have the same ending as the og 10.tidus is going to have to dissappear again with yuna accepting his fate and thanking him.
>>492824552They just samefag and shitpost the 10/10 FFXVI and FFXIV all day? Very sad.
>>492824724see >>492821449>The FFV 3D Remake is... Bravely Default>The FFVI 3D Remake is... Octopath Traveler
>>492801620xvi isn't even a final fantasy game. it's barely even a game desu.
>>492824465and i think tidus coming back messes with his contrast to seymour.seymour revelled in his semi-immortality when becoming an unsent while tidus accepted his temporal nature.i know whatever they do with 10-3 will never satisfy me how og 10 did.
>>492824552It's pathetic, really, how he always picks an hours or sometimes days old Yoshida shitpost to samefag multiple times like that, as if anyone would believe it's organic.
>>492825569It's a completely natural and very clear consensus against yoshitpissXVI lost and XV has won bigly
>>492801620I agree with the samefags. Jack's game is better.
>>492826047This.
>>492826047>>492826362sounds like something a samefag would say...
>>492821449>There will be no more 3D Remakes by Team Asano. They are now remaking Dragon Quest gamesFat chance. Asano has always been attached to the FF series. He's helping with DQ now, but he'll come back.
I liked SoP but I enjoyed XVI even more.
>>492825812>It's a completely natural and very clear consensus>yfw menageWe both know that's false.
>>492826704>Fat chance. Asano has always been attached to the FF series.Kinda, but not really. Not since 2007 anyway. Releasing TAY in 2013 is an anomaly and not technically Asano. Like I said, after examining the timeline, it seems like that they chose to make their own version of V rather than do a 3D Remake like III and IV got. Their first try sucked, but their 2nd try was Bravely Default. Then, instead of doing a VI Remake, they made Octopath Traveler, in the same way that Bravely Default was the V Remake. They have clearly moved on from Final Fantasy. They haven't even made a Final Fantasy game in the past 15 years, they just make their own versions of Final Fantasy games. They're like store brand FF (sometimes better than the name brand), except it's all flavored like Bravely Default. I didn't even realize it was this way until I looked just now, but that's the way it is. There was some sort of change after IV 3D, and that change caused Team Asano to begin making their own versions of games rather than actually Remaking the real game (except Live-A-Live, but that's Tokita anyway). If Team Asano ever starts doing FF Remakes again, it probably wont be till 2030 or later. ...unless the recent restructuring creates a change, but the restructuring might have created the Dragon Quest remakes.
>>492826047Based.Sounds like something I would and did say.
>>492826047Gotta say, I was so right I just had to reply to myself twice!
>>492827179Sounds like Team Asano has been washed up for a while. I guess CS3 is directing the new high fantasy openworld XVII after all. I'm looking forward to it.
Can someone find out the actual sizes of the Scorpion sentinal and jenova? I need it for 3d printing and scaling.
>>492826047Kek this post we made eally touched a nerve with the cult.
>>492822442It's not a fundamental problem just with Spira's world, but of our own world and I think that's why you see Nojima struggle to provide a good solution.>strictly speaking a new psychopath like Yu Yevon could arise in the future I don't think anyone can be faulted for wanting to eliminate conflict and pain, and to be "stuck" in a time of peace surrounded by your loved ones forever. It's better to live forever than die. It's better to prevent loss than to move on from trauma. How many people believe in life after death? If one could create Heaven on Earth, is it wrong to do so even if it results in the death of the "real world" to create the dream of Heaven? Why? What's the difference between that and moving to some other place of existence after death, if something like that exists?If it doesn't exist, but it was possible to create it, why shouldn't we?
>>492827748That's not what I'm saying. The other guy said that Asano has always been attached to the FF series, but that hasn't really been true since 2007, and instead of making the V 3D Remake, they began making FF-adjacent games in the vein of V and VI. Now they're doing Dragon Quest. They may at some point in the future return to remaking FF games, but it's been over 15 years since they did that.
>>492827748>>492828573>15 years washed up making DQ slop>surely SE will suddenly give them a mainline FFbravely coping
>>492829995...anon, neither I (>>492827179) nor the other guy said anything about an Asano mainline title.
>>492830152>Asano mainline titleIt's commonly discussed here newfriend.
>>492830543>It's commonly discussed here newfriend.Quite unfortunately, I've been here for years. Neither I nor the other anon were talking about a Team Asano mainline title in this conversation. The conversation was originally "why did we never get V and VI 3D remakes?" and then when you joined the conversation it was "Team Asano has always been attached to FF", which hasn't been the case since 2007, as we've already discussed.Just because a conversation has happened in the past does not mean that all future conversations are that same conversation, anon.
>>492829995>DQ slopLess slop than FF though
>>492830543>DQ Asano default slop masquerading as a mainline FFTerrible idea. Meaning SE probably already has it in the works.
>>492831353sadly true
>>492829995bravely kino you mean
>>492801620Just played earlier today. I think Jack is way more unintentionally hilariously entertaining than Clive.
>>492801620it's a shame they cut out the towns and overworld map and like 30% of the whole games beginning
while tidus was eventually able to move on from his bad view of his dad and even realize his dad's care for him, seymour never moved on from his dad's treatment of him. seymour even killed his dad.i forget if jyscal even cared about seymour though. he did banish seymour and his mom away from everyone else. was there care in that act similar to how there was care in jecht's harsh words towards tidus to toughen him?
>>492840059i wonder. did seymour also hate being alone like tidus did and develop abandonment issues?
Falseflag post.
Denying the schizo samefags exist post.
>>492843398>>492843526Nobody is stopping you from talking about final fantasy right now
Calling out dramafags despite not having a single post unrelated to dramafags post right on queue.
>>492843664You touched a nerve. And they STILL don't want to talk about final fantasy. Which begs the question... why do they come here?
Samefag post.
>>492844202What's your favourite final fantasy game?
shut the fuck up frenchie
>>492844325I think it's VIII, they deserve so much credit for not just doing VII again. To play, I love Remake's combat, until flying enemies.
>>492844578The days before SE milked VII were indeed beautiful
>>492844325nta but i like most of them.my favorites are 1,7,9, and 10
>>492845356What's the best way to play 1 today?
>>492845501PSP remake or the 3DS one
>>492845501i'm currently playing the ps1 version on retroarch.it's pretty fun.idk if it's the best way.nes version is pretty fun due to how bugged it is with crits.
>>492845501just play the pixel collection and if you ever give a fuck enough to replay it play the original
>>492847010>no Chronodiashit sucks brah
Rebirth is the best Final Fantasy game. Best gameplay, the best characters, other than the ending and Dyne every change is for the better, music is cheating a bit because it has OG to copy but overall the music is fantastic.
>>492847892I'm glad the Dyne scene isn't great because it's a great way for me to sound balanced when I'm praising everything else about the game
>>492848361>I'm glad the Dyne scene isn't greatNever said that, just said OG is better.
>>492848650>Never said thatNobody said you did? Weird response
>>492848361>>492849162You can always have a normal conversation instead of strawmanning as the opposing viewpoint and then act like a bitch when confronted.
it's nice revisiting 10.i forgot how angry tidus got whenever something reminded him of jecht
>>492851518>paranoid schizophreniaDamn that must suck for you
>>492851518What changes would you make to X if it was getting a remake?
>>492851657Doesn't he have an early vision of Yuna and Rikku talking to Jecht instead of him? Boy's got issues.I like how Tidus had angst but tried to keep it together and still put out a confident and positive attitude most of the time. He easily could have been brooding the entire time considering the circumstances.
>>492851793>>492851917kek
>>492851917I would give Yuna larger breasts
>>492852240>not wanting to talk about final fantasyI wonder what brings you here
>>492611412>Playing through the second season of FFBEFunny how so many of the people involved are literally simply trying to find a way to mimic the signiture attack of Odin, in FF, Zentetsukaen, with their pleathora of "mirror of" moves......
>>492852745Excellent suggestion. Lulu and Rikku's don't need to change. I would also give Dona more screentime.>>492853372Please understand, some /ffg/ regulars are locked into an eternal autism battle. It leaves them no time to talk about final fantasy.
>>492752940What's the monthly intake compared to the last month of FFBE currently?Just wondering how much longer it has; also want to compare it to the income FFBE generated in it's years of service.
>>492853579I think Rikku should be flatter
>>492853902I can only agree to this if we get even more gratuitous ass shots while she's in her diving gear
So are FF1 garland and SoP Jack the same guy?
>>492852186yes, he has a bad dream about jecht making fun of him and "cucking" him lol.sorry, i can't not make that comparison.likely comes from jecht getting all his mother's attention.i can't help but find it kinda sad.tidus also hated being alone and calls out to wakka after one of his dreams.he wakes up alone though.picrel is funny to me too.tidus assaults a guy and steals his binoculars and then he won't let tidus use them again. he tells tidus to go away.he runs away when i try to approach him.10 has so much sovl.
>>492852186well, yuna was there.can't be getting all mopey around her.
>>492851917i'd cut the novel and audio drama from the canon.and change 10-2 so tidus can't come back. and maybe some other things about 10-2 as well like getting rid of the weird massage minigame.and i'd make the dungeon crawler game play like cmd because cmd was actually good and it bothered me that square made such a shitty dungeon crawler when cmd exists.
>>492854148Rate my pitch:FFX Remake has a chest randomizer option. Turn it on and when you begin the game the three heroines will be randomly assigned each others chest sizes.Maybe all three will have Rikku chests. Maybe all three will have Lulu chests. Or maybe some random mix. But you can't reroll until you've finished the game, and there's no way to cheat the system.
>>492852186and on the topic of tidus' issues.he hated how his parents abandoned him.his dad never came back after going to sea so when he hears that a summoner went into a temple and never came back, he HAS to go help them (it's yuna).almost every reaction he has in the story is based on his traumas so far.i see this as i've been replaying it.
>>492856728uninstall, clear cache, and reinstall
>>492856467But the audio drama expands the lore. You don't cut it just because you personally don't like it.>>492856728Risky but I'd like to try it. I don't think I'd want Rikku to have Lulu sized tits though.>>492856742X really is one of the best in the series
>>492856878If you do that every Temple Trial gets 5 times longer. Sorry bro, you gotta roll with the results.
>>492856907>But the audio drama expands the lore. You don't cut it just because you personally don't like it.i cut it because it's pointless drama filler added to a completed story.if you haven't seen me whine about how tidus coming back in 10-2 because it ruins 10's themes of moving on and accepting that things can't always be as you want: i posted about it just a bit ago.>10 is amazingyes. glad you agree.tidus also tells the aurochs anyone can do the jecht shot because jecht told tidus no one but himself (jecht) could do it.
oh yeah, i beat kraken earlier on my ff1 monk challenge runhttps://files.catbox.moe/4d8rl4.mp4
i'm curious now:have any of you changed your opinion on a final fantasy game/character as you got older?
>>492860958At first IV was one of my favorites, then for a while I thought it was just OK, and after playing the DS version, I realized it's still one of the greats. Same happened with X.On the opposite side, I absolutely hated VIII at first, but after replaying and actually finishing it, I think it's good, despite its flaws. And then there's XV: Loved it at first partly due to the hype of actually playing an FF game at launch, then hated it after realizing how flawed it was. I'm willing to give the Royal Edition a chance, but Square Enix's handling of the game during all those years was just incredibly scummy.
>>492856728If Lulu didn't have big tits everyone would find out how boring she is
>>492864023They'd still remember the belt dress
eclaire farron won
>>492864284Ah yes, that one bland character Square Enix shilled to hell and back for like five years, then got promptly replaced by Noctis, only for Cloud to deservedly reclaim that status.
>>492864023Ah yes, the Tifa dilemma
Is there any chance XVI will get cracked close to launch? I know it'll have denuvo, but with the Epic release and the demo is there any chance? The game is way too expensive in my country.
>>492866830No chance thirdiePay the toll to play kino
>>492866830Hopefully so, because that game isn't worth payi9ng for.
>>492870968Hey, that's the fault of peronism, not mine.
>>492865628>Cloud>female Cloud>please buy our games, all of our marketing budget is going for it, we wasted 10 years on it, we need to make something from it, please please please buy our game we have Ramen please buy our game this was such a disaster please please buy our game>Cloud
>>492854476Play the DLC.If by FF1 Garland, you mean Dissidia, then no. If by FF1, you mean FF1, then he technically is, yes.
>>492854476You need to spend more money to find out in the DLC
>>492866830There is zero chance that anyone is interested enough to waste their time cracking a game that was forgotten a week after launch.
in retrospect SoP was pretty good and a cool concept
>>492881324Better than XVI
>>492882420XV*fatfingered an I sorry
>>492882420Low bar, but SoP is KINO.
>>492882420This
I'm playing through FF7 for the first time and I have a question about Fort Condor.I don't seem to understand what is required and what isn't with it.I've done one battle and won at Fort Condor, can I just ignore Fort Condor for the rest of the game and still get the big materia or whatever it is you get from the 21st battle, or do I have to donate to make sure they don't lose at Fort Condor?
>>492878948Brutal
>>492824552Add >492883474 and >492883625 to the list. He can't help himself.
>>492825112Looks like he's ban evading again.
I like how SoP is a fun Final Fantasy game with rpg mechanics.I hate how FF16 is a boring Final Fantasy movie with no rpg mechanics.
>>492884759This
XVI is such a great game is amazing how it made 4x its cost in revenue. Complete opposite of XV's billion dollar cost with no profit.
>>492885231>Complete opposite of XV's billion dollar cost with no profit.is this real chat?
>he's samefagging cus he thinks we are BarryKek
>>492885497It's sad how desperate he is for someone to care about XVI. Grim even.
>>492884759Based. And the cult isn’t going to quote this post because they can’t prove it’s samefagging without editing the screencap
>>492885437It is completely real. In fact, a single man has been malding about it since before its launch.
>>492885231you made the shitposters out themselves
>>492885778this has to be a coincidence
>>492884420Unfortunately true. They just can't help but seethe all day about the 10/10 FFXVI.
>>492886326Oh yes. If you decide to go on metacritic, look at almost all of the reviews that give XVI a 0 and notice how they all have only 2-3 games and give 10s for games that coincidentally get shilled here (only to shit on XVI of course).
Is XVI causing SE to lose 2 billion in stock value overnight still considered a profit compared to XV?
>>492886967That $2b was earned by XV promising to deliver and lost by it's failure to appreciate + LP's first game being shit.
>>492887170Smartest yoshi-p cultist.
Why can't SE make Tifa this attractive?
>>492885497He went ballistic after this post. Seems he hates being called out.
>>492887724Why are you projecting?
>>492886348>10/10 FFXVI.How can such a simple fact be this inflammatory to one guy?
>>492888146kek GOTTEM>>492886326No seriously this one guy pays to shitpost XVI. Either phone payments or 4chan pass. Pick your poison.
No one will ever have your back like Frenchie has his own back.
>>492889326KEK
>>492887170You didn’t really answer my question
>>492889326The SEAfag(s) (or whoever "they" are) have him beat. That guy will samefag his own posts like 20 times. See: >>492801620
>>492801620xvi is the worst so the answer is always yes
>>492891032Nope. You are a schizo.
>>492891032Is it really that hard to accept that not everyone likes your favorite slop? Maybe you should stay on Reddit if you can’t handle honest opinions.
I'm glad Brave Exvius gave us a pretty good OST if nothing else. The battle theme is really nice.
Why do these politically charged trannies keep taking Ls?
>>492890583Because your question was formed on ignorance.
>>492895948t. thinks blames XV for XVI losing $2b
>>492896184Maybe you'd have a point if stock prices didn't return to the exact value they were prior to XV gaining those stockholders or the line after the pump actually went up. But you're a forspoken apologist and they don't understand how economics works.
>>492897081I don't think you understand how much worse you made XVI's flop look.
>>492894073there's no way gucci actually said this
>>492897253>$240m (revenue) - $59m (cost) = ???The only person who'd think that is you. Because you're mentally ill and are incapable of doing anything other than attack Yoshida. You literally have to samefag to generate consensus, but you're too retarded to realize that a majority can be wrong too.
>>492897852>$240m (revenue) SE does not get every penny from per sale>59m (cost)Yoshida said the game was more closer to 100m.You might genuinely be a moron. You made up two numbers and have no clue of what you're talking about. I think you're just b8ing for attention.
>>492892390Even when you articulated your opinion for those brief few weeks, it was entirely conjecture. Nothing you said was more than a preference-based complaint. You rarely suggested what could be improved.>>492898126It was already established in that conversation that he was talking about FF games in general. You're either illiterate or you genuinely think people are stupid enough to ignore basic sentence structure.
>>492898541>about FF games in generalHe said XVI specifically.Because its the only recent one he worked on>stupid enough to ignore basic sentence structure.You're just tattling on yourself.
>>492898541>preference-based complaint/ffg/ is a funny place
>>492898673>he's projecting againHe never said specifically FFXVI and you can't prove it otherwise without looking like a SEAfag.
>>492898709If you criticize an FF game all you're saying is you're an idiot who is mad the creators made what THEY wanted instead of what YOU wanted. That's why nobody cares about your opinion.
>>492898797>He never said specifically FFXVI and you can't prove itsure I can.https://web.archive.org/web/20240422184746/https://www.gameinformer.com/feature/2023/02/28/final-fantasy-16-designers-discuss-why-the-series-hasnt-been-turn-based-for-a>Yoshida: "When creating FFXVI, you can't ignore the data that's been taken from the fan base, from Final Fantasy I to XV. >Yoshida: So, again, creating a Final Fantasy, a numbered Final Fantasy, has become such an endeavor, to the point where your development costs can go upwards of $100 million, just to create one game. And so to recoup that development cost, you need as many people playing your game as possible. And while a lot of the older fans are used to what Final Fantasy had in the past, a lot of younger [players] have never played a Final Fantasy game. They grew up playing first-person shooters, they grew up playing games like [Grand Theft Auto], where basically you press a button and something happens immediately. >Yoshida: It's not a command-based system. When you press the square, your guy shoots. Why do you have to wait for him to shoot, I should be able to press square and he shoots immediately. You have this whole generation of gamers that grew up with this, [and you need] to get those generations to come in and also play [FFXVI], which has this image of not being that type of game.Specifically about XVI. You saw I through XV when he was talking about fan feedback and thought that meant he was talking about the budget of those games.But it was XVI. And he flopped with XVI.
>>492899271>using the subject of one sentence for another>completely ignoring contextThank you for proving you're illiterate.
>you can't ignore the data that's been taken from the fan base, from Final Fantasy I to XV.>creating a Final Fantasy, a numbered Final Fantasy, has become such an endeavor, to the point where your development costs can go upwards of $100 million, just to create one gameHe's obviously talking about XV. We still have no idea what XVI's budget was, but 3 million sales was enough to meet initial expectations. Rebirth, on the other hand, did not even meet initial expectations and was lumped into a statement with Foamstars. Not a good look.
>>492899663>>492899714>get angry when Yoshida specifically talks about XVI>try to blame other games but is having a hard time doing it>thinks yoshida knows the budget of XV when he wasn't promoted to the board of directors until 2018.the cult really isn't sending their brightest today.>but 3 million sales was enough to meet initial expectations.It didn't meet its sales goal. >was lumped into a statement with Foamstars.as was XVI.
>>492899714The last XVI budget number that was discovered was 10b yen, which at the time was worth $59m. Inflation today has raised that to ~$64m.
>>492900086its funny because you don't want to post a source for it, because even you know its bullshit.
>>492900086>jump through 2 different hoops to still come up shortheh
>>492900029You are an illiterate SEAfag if not disengenuous. Anyone who has passed 5th grade english can look at those statements and see the first was talking about XVI and the second was talking about creating final fantasy games in general. Setting a premise and then elaborating on the subject is basic english, retard.
>>492900029>anon thinks that it's impossible for Yoshida to know the budget and how much was spent on making Versus XIII -> XVYou're so set on shitposting about Yoshida that you purposely misread all interviews and then pretend to be blind to simple logical conclusions.
>>492900412>second was talking about creating final fantasy games in genera>so, again, creating a Final Fantasy, a numbered Final Fantasy>has become such an endeavor, to the point where your development costs can go upwards of $100 million, just to create one game. And so to recoup that development cost, you need as many people playing your game as possible. >You have this whole generation of gamers that grew up with this, [and you need] to get those generations to come in and also play [FFXVI], which has this image of not being that type of game.Specifically XVI. You have this word fascination with SEAfags.>>492900504>He knows it because I need him tolmao he was only ever talking about XVI in that interview and you two smoothbrain retards are shitting yourselves trying to cope your way out of it.
>>492900228>>492900249Here you go, for the second time:https://www-yomiuri-co-jp.translate.goog/economy/20230106-OYT1T50123/?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=el>In the past, new FF games were released almost every year, but in recent years, the gaps between games have been getting longer. According to Hideki Yasuda, a senior analyst at Toyo Securities, game development teams used to have several dozen people per game, but recently that number has increased to more than 200 people, and production costs, which used to be in the tens of millions of yen, have now exceeded 10 billion yen.Feel free to check conversion rates at your leisure.
>>492900709>lmao he was only ever talking about XVI in that interview and you two smoothbrain retards are shitting yourselves trying to cope your way out of it.I'm just reading things as they are written. You are reading things from the angle of "how can I used this to shitpost about Yoshida?". He is not specifically talking about XVI, but rather about Final Fantasy. It is safe (and logical) to assume that the Versus XIII blunder into XV cost $100 million in total. It is safe (and logical) to assume that the statement being made is referring to XV. Could XVI's budget also be over $100 million? It's possible, but you don't know what the budget is, no one publicly knows what the budget was, and the statement you are desperately clinging onto does not say what the budget is either. All it says is that a previous Final Fantasy game has had a budget of $100 million dollars, and that is clearly XV. >>492901012This still says nothing of XVI, and even if it did, when taking this statement at face value and assuming it is only referring to XVI's production, you are proving that its budget was under $100 million.
>>492901012>Guy estimates that the budget must be above 10billion yen at the very leastyour smoothbrain thinks he meant that was the ceiling and not the floor ha ha ha ha haYou are so fucking dumb man ha ha ha>>492901302>He is not specifically talking about XVI, in the article about XVI, while he was doing a press tour for XVI and brings up the budget of XVI when asked about how he can get people to play XVI after years of people playing GTAThis is the definition of mental gymnastics.>It is safe (and logical) to assume that the Versus XIII blunder into XV cost $100 million in total. It is safe (and logical) to assume that the statement being made is referring to XV.lmao he is literally talking about XVI. You two are some of the dumbest and funniest lolcows this general has to offer.
>>492901012>>492901302Based and triggered the shitposterhe's resorting to personal attacks and sperging out nowThe 10/10 FFXVI seems to have won this one handily.
>>492902218too bad it killed FF in the process.
>Yes, Cloud keep projecting your illiteracy.>They have to be more retarded than you because dunning and kruger are fags.
>>492901729>lmao he is literally talking about XVI.He's not, anon. He's talking about Final Fantasy games:>"creating a Final Fantasy, a numbered Final Fantasy, has become such an endeavor, to the point where your development costs can go upwards of $100 million, just to create one game"I know you are desperately clinging to this, but this says nothing about XVI, and it can be pretty reasonably assumed that XV had a production cost upwards of $100 million. And apparently the only figure that exists for development costs (though again, not specifically XVI's) is ~$59 million.Nothing being posted is proving anything. The only thing that's being proven is that there has been at least one Final Fantasy game which had a total production cost of ~$100 million or more, and it can be reasonably assumed that XV fits this description. If you have anything that specifically states that XVI had a production cost of $100 million or more, I would be happy to "concede", but nothing you're posting proves that.
>>492902514>I know you are desperately clinging to this, but this says nothing about XVI>Yoshida: "When creating FFXVI, you can't ignore the data that's been taken from the fan base, from Final Fantasy I to XV. >You have this whole generation of gamers that grew up with this, [and you need] to get those generations to come in and also play [FFXVI]Literally about XVI.>the only figure that exists for development costs is100m from Yoshida.>the only thing that's being proven is that there has been at least one Final Fantasy game which had a total production cost of ~$100 million or more, and it can be reasonably assumed that It would be XVI. The Aussie would be very proud you have turned into the XVI version of him.
>>492902514If you consider that the first (amended) statement about XV breaking even at 10m sales and then a later statement reducing it to 5m sales to break even, XV is at least $250. Maybe XVI's was $100m but it would have still made a profit since the last revenue figure posted in /ffg/ showed $240m
https://www.gamespot.com/articles/final-fantasy-15-director-qanda-the-race-to-the-fi/1100-6429741/>GS: Is it safe to assume that this is the most expensive game ever made, if account for the entire development cycle, before you took over?>Tabata: No, it's not, even including that. From what I've heard, we're nowhere near what Destiny or Grand Theft Auto V [cost].>GS: But Destiny's budget is projected over a ten-year timeline.>Tabata: I suppose if you consider it from when we started Versus XIII, we've been at it for ten years as well. The budgets for all of our projects are controlled quite strictly, but on a company level, so it's not been allowed to go that far out.So Yoshida was in fact talking about XVI
I didn’t even post anything, and someone already did the job of shitting on XVI for me. It feels good to be on the side of rhe majority without needing to samefag all day to make my opinion seem valid.
How nice, you boys are finally talking about final fantasy
>>492903254what boys
>>492903231>It feels good to be on the side of rhe majority without needing to samefag all day to make my opinion seem valid.yoshicult bros we're getting called out...
>>492902815>The Aussie would be very proud you have turned into the XVI version of him.I'm only reading things that are being posted, anon. You're the one who is acting like (((Him))). You're even doing the same hallmark misinterpretation of articles for the purpose of shitting on Yoshida. >>492902973Again, you simply cannot read. This text only says that XV is not the most expensive game that has ever been made.
>>492903324femboys are still boys
>>492902892$250m*
>>492903329Why are you samefagging a copypasta?
>>492903331>This text only says that XV is not the most expensive game that has ever been made.>we're nowhere near what Destiny or Grand Theft Auto V >Destiny cost 140mIf its nowhere near Destiny, than that means it being 100m is looking even less likely.
>>492903367final fantasy is a series that is and always will be for the girlsincluding every single person in this thread one day
>>492903614>If its nowhere near Destiny, than that means it being 100m is looking even less likely.>Considering this, the game was initially allotted a core budget of $140 Million USD to develop, but over time, GTA 5 has cost Rockstar over $265 Million USD in total."Nowhere" is a relative term, and we are trusting that it's all the truth.
https://web.archive.org/web/20221226123524/https://tombraiderblog.square-enix-games.com/en-us/sottr/blog/treasure-hunters/>With a total production and promotion of 135 million dollars, Shadow of the Tomb Raider became the most expensive project of the franchise>Shadow of the tomb raider flops at only 4.1 million sold at launch>XV doesn't flop when it sold 5m at launch.>Neither does 7remake or kh3>but XVI sold only 3m, so that must mean it didn't flop because of...umm....cultbros we're running out of copes...
>>492904604Your post is too full of circular logic to reply to.
>>492904946that's nice but XVI still flopped.
>>492905124Met initial sales expectations, while Rebirth did not even do that. It's uncanny how these "flop" posts never address the real elephant in the room with Final Fantasy VII Rebirth.
>>492905307>sales expectationsare not sales goals, which it did not meet>RebirthBecause this is a discussion about XVI and it flopping. Not deflecting into rebirth.
>>492905124>has to literally destroy the english language to make an argumentlol LMAO
>>492905307This whole exchange reminds me of the days where I could post for hours and hours about how SE considered Remake a sales success. I also linked to SE financial reports.But ever since SoP... I don't know, for some reason I just felt like sales arguments didn't matter anymore.That said, I'd reconsider my position if SE had a major sales hit sometime in the future.
>>492905423>deflectingSo far, you've talked about Destiny and GTA and Tomb Raider and KH, and you're also the person who brought up VIIR.
>>492905565>You're wrong because uhh...your english....well...its bad!>In what way?>uhhhhhhhhhkek
Why do people dislike Tidus?
>>492905697>Destiny and GTA and Tomb Raider and KHFor sales comparisons of course in the context of this conversation. Beacuse I'm establishing what was and what wasn't considered a flop.I didn't bring up (until this very point and only to demonstrate this point) XIV also failing with dawntrail before because that has nothing to do with XVI failing. But some people need to deflect to>>492899714 >>492905307 rebirth to move the conversation away from XVI.
>>492905697GOTTEM
XVI won bigly
>>492906107>For sales comparisons of course in the context of this conversation.Exactly. This is why I bring up the fact that Final Fantasy VII (Rebirth) did not even meet initial sales expectations. A Final Fantasy VII game, a massive IP, failed even to meet its initial sales goals while XVI met its initial sales goal. And yet only one of these gets incessantly shitposted by the same people, over and over again all day every day. Like I said, it's uncanny how egregious the Yoshida shitposting is. If your sales shitposting was actually about sales, you'd be going after Rebirth, as it is a more appropriate target. You could even use the incredibly divisive XVI as fuel to shitpost against Rebirth's sales, and yet that's not what occurs. You will even misread unrelated quotes about completely different games in order to shitpost about Yoshida.
>>492906175One might even say that the fastest selling PS5 exclusive and 10/10 Final Fantasy XVI just can't stop winning.
>>492906175>>492906565Not shitting on XVI, but then why does it feel like nobody cares about FF anymore? Like, in the late 90s-2000s it was THE jrpg franchise. Nowadays, the only people who seem to care about it are MMO players who only play XIV.
>>492906546>Final Fantasy VII (Rebirth) did not even meet initial sales expectations. A Final Fantasy VII game, a massive IP, failed even to meet its initial sales goalsWhich is deflection away from XVI.>while XVI met its initial sales goal.Expectations and sales goals are not the same thing. It did not meet its sales goal.>And yet only one of these gets incessantly shitposted by the same people, over and over again all day every dayBecause you bring it on yourselves with >>492906175>>492906565posts like these. Which are in stark contrast to the reality we live in. 2b lost because of XVI flopping. Restructure happening right after XVi flopped. Spider-man 2 is the best selling and fastest selling ps5 exclusive. /ffg/ might be the only place where there are still people who think XVI didn't turn out to be a mediocre game.>Like I said, it's uncanny how egregious the Yoshida shitposting isWe have constant shitposts about nomura, nojima, toriyama and the games their associated with but you don't bat an eye.You're only mad at the yoshida posts because you mistakenly think he's your friend.
>>492906994XIII killed the brand, sadlyXIV has been the only consistently good thing to come out of the series in some time, so most old fans and new ones have been playing that.
>>492907194>XIV has been the only consistently good thing to come out of the series in some timeXIV 1.0 was the game SE considered to be a stain on the franchise and even fans think Dawntrail was a huge disappointment.
>>492906994Both XVI and Rebirth shipped over 100 million copies each. But keep pushing your "nobody cares about ff anymore" bullshit.
>>492907116>the reality we live inyou are a minority, shitposter
>>492801620Yes by several orders of magnitude.
>>492870930True love
>>492906565(You)>>492907623(You)I'm trans btw
After 1.5 years will PC launch finally push FFXVI over the 4 million** mark? I'm hearing talks that the LGBTQ+ tag is getting it filtered for a lot of people on Steam.**Shipped and sold
>>492908016Obviously
Why did they succeed with XV but failed so miserably with XVI?
all of SEA agrees that yoshitpiss floppedthe science is settled
>>492907116>deflection deflection deflection>(that's what I say when I lost every point I was trying to make in an argument)Yawn.
>>492907596Maybe, but I don't see people talking about it as much they used too. Again I'm not really calling the games bad, but if the whole reason they turned it into an action series was for it to become more mainstream, then something is clearly wrong. Baldur's Gate is a CRPG and it was way more popular, even if I didn't really like it.
If someone is shitting on XVI, simply remind them that it was awarded a 10/10 rating from MEU PLAYSTATION and BUT WHY THO? and watch them crumble. It's an instakill move that never fails to crush all naysayers.
>>492908323For all its faults at least XV is still an RPG.
>>492908549If a videogame is turn based, nobody will buy it. If you want your jrpg to sell it needs action combat.
>>492908765That's very wise and very true, Yoshi-san.
>>492908406Wipe the tears from your face, clean your diaper, and try this post again.
>>492908621this but unironically
>>492908375>Barry and his sock puppets are review bombing XVI while pushing XV's score higher even to this day>despite his best efforts, XVI still has a both a higher metascore and user score than XVLOLIt wont be long now before his sock puppet accounts finally push XVI and XV to have the same user score, and I bet there will be days worth of threads and celebratory shitposts when he finally achieves his goal.
>>492908943>review bombing XVIdon't think he's giving XVI good scores.
>>492908765The fact that many "fans" unironically say this shit when stuff like Persona 5, DQ11 and BG3 exist is so funny.
>when all else fails, blame barry kek he's falling apart. keep pushing barrybros.
Oh good, the XVI PR team is here, I was getting worried earlier.
>>492909161You can almost hear the SNAP before the frantic namefag shit begins
Can we stop pretending that XVI is bad (or a masterpiece for that matter). It's a good game that just doesn't belong in the mainline series (like XV, except that wasn't good lol) and another clear example of Square Enix refusing to appeal to their niche for the sake of popularity (which again is dumb, because turn based is really popular right now)
>>492907623Not when your cultist keep calling your movie garbage a 10/10.You know what game is actually a 10/10? The one with RPG elements that sold 15 million copies without needing paid reviews from journalists.
>>492909161I have compiled several images of everyone who has been critical of FFXVI on Metacritic and after cross referencing with the 4chan archives I can safely conclude that you're Barry and dismiss any further criticisms.
>>492906994ngl eating is a little more important than final fantasy
>>492909557There is nothing that would ever deter the Yoshida shitposters besides than their own deaths. This has been their entire life, for years. They literally do not do anything else.
>>492909560>keeps shilling anything but Final Fantasy>If you bring up a Final Fantasy game it's "deflecting"
>>492909161I respect Barry's hustle. If XVIfag had the same kind of dedication to XVI it wouldn't be sitting at an 8.0 userscore/50% Steam rating.I guess XVI just isn't worth the effort.
>>492909560Bald and Gay 3 is a game where you can self insert as your transexual player character, choose your penis and boobs in the character creator, have homosexual sex with a bear, and get cucked by one of the girls. We like this in the /ffg/, however, we will also shitpost about a gay kiss in XVI, because it's only bad when Yoshida does it. We also wont mention all of the gay NPCs in Rebirth either, because it's also okay as long as Yoshida is not the one doing it.
>>492908943they should delete all 0s imoNo game is a 0. especially not the 10/10 XVI
>>492910282>I guess XVI just isn't worth the effort.Anon, you are now putting Barry and his 10+ years of being a shit on a pedestal. Nothing is worth the effort the he puts into shitposting, unless someone is paying him a six figure salary to do it.
>>492910282we know you love him because you are himXVI Chads actually have lives however so we cannot dedicate our resources to such pursuits
>>492909560BG3, a game so good it made some people immediately forget the life changing FFXVI.it genuinely was spectacular, and I’ve never even played a western CRPG before
>>492911247off-topic again
>>492910535>unless someone is paying him a six figure salary to do it.According to reliable sources, his salary is approximately $000,000/yr. Not including phone service.
>>492910394Honestly every XVI review under 6 should be considered a troll and deleted
>>492912208>Honestly every XVI review under 6 should be considered a troll and deletedI would consider this broadly true for almost all AAA games, but yes I agree.
>>492910643I wish I was as cool as Barry. Imagine being able to single handedly defeat a billion dollar company with nothing but free time and a vpn.
>>492912208>>492912432Agreed. It's definitely in the 8/10-10/10 range. I feel like if you're giving it less you're pretty biased in some way.
>>492909560this kills the retarded 10/10 shitposter
>>492912623What about 7/10ish?
>>492913127Anyone giving it a score that low was always going to hate it>>492913136CUTE
>>492913127>7/10ishAccurate score.
>>492913127>some literalwho biased VIIfag eceleb
>>492912559Tbf, Yoshida did most of the work.
>>492913547LMAO
The objective review scores almagamated by our peers are right here. No need to appeal to authority.
>>492913127It should be lower tbqhXVI is painfully mediocre
>>492912623>10/10 range.No.Retard.
>>492913804XV's user score should be slightly lower and XVI's user score should be slightly higher, to account for Barry's unironic 1,000+ reviews for the games.
>>492910282>I guess XVI just isn't worth the effort.Afraid not.
>>4929126238/10 is the most fair score.7/10, 9/10 are also common scores dependent on your personal taste.6/10, 10/10 mean you are an outlier.5/10 means you just don't like this genre.
XVI has a 10/10 presentation but like a 4/10 gameplay, so overall a 6 or 7/10 is completely reasonable, because you really just don’t get that much video game out of your video game.
FF fans like RPGsFF fans don't like action slop
>>492908375>>492908943>in 1 year's worth of time, there have been 1,300 new user reviews for XV, pushing the score higher rather than lower or maintaining>there have been 6,000 user reviews for XVI (!!), pushing the score lower rather than higher>XVI has over twice the amount of user reviews as Rebirth, a Final Fantasy VII gameHe's not even trying to hide it.
>>492914439Fair enough and unbiased. >>492914663You didn't play the game or you're just shitposting. The combat is really great and a lot of fun. Even if you don't like the genre the game is an easy 8.
>>492914898>You didn't play the gameHe played it with the rings on and then didn't play the game after he beat it the first time.
>>492914663>4/10 gameplayThe cultist will not be happy about this, but you're correct.
>>492915252That same guy again? What's his deal, man
>>492915553No one will ever know.
xvi is not a good rpgxvi is not a good action gamexvi is not a good final fantasy gamexvi is not a good game
>>492916302Sad but true.
Yoshida thinks action combat is when you press a button and a million particles fill the screen. There is no room to do anything creative in this game.
>>492916302>>492916864This
We can't talk about this .webm because it's caused by the player's actions. A lot can be said about this statement. Perhaps gameplay (and thus enjoyment of this gameplay) is in the player's hands.
>>492917301i can't even tell what's going on in that webm...
>>492917301WOO IM MASHIN THE BUTTON AN NUMBERS AND LIGHTS COME OUT WOW LEMME END IT WITH A SUPER ANIME FINISHING LIMIT BREAK
Look on the bright side. Neither FFXVI nor Rebirth will perform badly enough to join this cursed list.
>>492912208Don't worry I contacted metacritic about the numerous 2-game reviewfags reviewbombing XVI. I am honestly not surprised shitposters would ALSO give 10/10s to games they personally shill itt. But mental illness also means low IQ.
>>492912208XVIsisters are a cult.
>>492917764XVI might
>>492908375Unfortunately true...
>>492917764XVI will
>>492916302>If I repeat this mantra and samefag all day every day, it will come true!
>>492908375>>492908943>on PSN, where you must own the game to review, Rebirth has more reviews than XVI>on metacritic, where Barry can create thousands of accounts to review bomb games, XVI has over 2x as many reviews as Rebirthkek
>>492837656>wen u learn devour and think of all u can eat
>>492914439>5/10 means you just don't like this genre.I do not like action slop, you're rightI play this franchise for the RPG elements
>>492914898I like action games and I found the combat to be very mediocre. The game lacks a lot of complexity it’s contemporaries have like directional inputs and a style meter, instead having really basic and simple “press X to AWESOME” flashy cooldowns. Even if you try, enemies die before you can style on them too much, and bosses can’t be air juggled or anything.And don’t even get me started on Ifrit gameplay. PS1 brawlers had more depth and complexity than controlling Ifrit does.
>>492919082I'm a big Rebirth and XVI guy but I have no idea how to leave a PSN review desu
>>492916302the post that triggered a cultist
>>492916302>xvi is not a good rpgIt's not an rpg at all.>xvi is not a good action gameTrue.>xvi is not a good final fantasy gameNot a real Final Fantasy game.>xvi is not a good gameCan't argue with this.
>>492916302>>492916864>>492916975>>492919530>>492919584all me btw
>>492919346You haven't played the game on hard mode. No need to add your opinion, easymode-kun.
>>492919368That's not the point. The point is that I think it's pretty safe to say (and the PSN reviews agree) that diehard FFVII fans are more outspoken than the people who have played XVI, as it has more reviews on the platform where you need to actually own the game in order to leave a review.The point is that there is no organic condition that would cause XVI to have 12k user reviews while Rebirth only has 5k. XVI sold better, but it didn't sell that much better. It just illustrates how obviously XVI has been review bombed (and probably also review boosted to a degree as well, or else XVI might be at like a 5.0 through Barry's concerted efforts). There is also the fact that a large number of Rebirth's review scores were pruned early on (at one point, Rebirth had a 7.8 with ~2k reviews)
>>492919346Damn anon you completely eviscerated XVI's "gameplay". I doubt anyone will be able to debunk a single thing you said.
>>492919346But muh damage sponges are le epic!
>easymode-kun samefagging again
Where are his balls?
>>492919960People are more likely to leave a review if they had a bad experience which coincidentally explains why XVI has so many reviews.
>>492920552If that were true, XVI would have more reviews on PSN as well, where people actually need to own the game. This metacritic phenomenon is unironically just Barry's review bombing in action. He artificially inflated the number or reviews to completely unrealistic degree.
>>492919346Curious... They (singular) call you a samefag yet refuse to refute your point.
>>492920453At least he has finally dropped the adopted pretense of his shitposts ACKSHUALLY being about how good XIII is.
>>492920773>This metacritic phenomenon is unironically just Barry's review bombing in action. He artificially inflated the number or reviews to completely unrealistic degree.>>492909092don't think he is leaving positive XVI reviews
>>492919669cope harder yoshitroon
>>492921093uhhh yoshibros... OUR NARRATIVE?! AIIIEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
>>492920479Hojo castrated him during his captivityHis cubs at the end of the story are actually adopted
Any Rebirth experts around?Question: do you have to win/finish a battle with an enemy you've assessed for it to "stick"? I'm mainly trying to see if I need to re-beat certain Chadley quests to get assessed data to stick or not.. But, in general.
>>492921093>don't think he is leaving positive XVI reviewsCorrect, he's leaving red reviews. Just take a scroll down the most recently left reviews on XVI. He's been doing this for an entire year, which has caused XVI's number of user reviews to reach an artificially inflated and unrealistic amount.
flop
>>492920979Everyone agrees the combat is ass, but we can't let Barry have even an inch. >>492921949See what happens if we do? He literally created thousands of accounts and gang stalks us to review bomb and mods just let it happen.
>>492922087>>492922087>>492922087>>492922087>>492922087
>>492921891>which has caused XVI's number of user reviews to reach an artificially inflated and unrealistic amount.because the yoshicult is spamming metacritic
>>492922250>because the yoshicult is spamming metacriticNo, anon. Scroll the most recent reviews. They're predominantly 0s. Moreover, the "yoshicult" is not nearly as obsessed with Yoshida as his haters are. XIV players just play XIV and forget that he even exists outside of Live Letters.
>>492921431>Hojo castrated him during his captivitybut then how was he supposed to breed aerith
>>492921221Nice inspect element
>>492922530>No>>492909092afraid its true
>>492920479>>492921431>>492923256unbutton Yuffie and give Red XIII his balls back!
>>492923439nice copebitch
