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Thanquol soon, friends!
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>Total War
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TW for this feel?
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I dont like that dwarves can only make their craftable items above green rarity once and cant make any of their runes more than once
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>>492791084
just get the mod
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>>492791150
link?
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>it aint me starts playing
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>>492789873
>Nan-Gau matriarch body
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>>492791150
But ive remained cheat-free for 1500 hours
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>>492791214
https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=2853509923
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>>492791003
Medieval 2 Americas or the Warpath campaign. No marrying natives in either of those. For that you need Pharaoh and Achilles conquering Tausret or Rome 2 and marrying Cleopatra in Imperator Augustus which is pretty similar.
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>>492789220
Real Previous: >>492642040
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>>492791575
Honestly this isn't that useful since it's not as if you can stack rune banners anymore.
3 of each banner rune is likely enough.
Though, there is a mod for that too.
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>>492791232
Its such a shame the master engineer doesnt get a gyrocopter mount but umgi get a steam tank
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>>492642040
>>492642040
>>492642040
NEW
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Of all Morathi is the only Slaaneshi character who cannot seduce people.
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>>492791785
I mainly just like the ability to not arbitrarily run out of runes to equip to my forces after you have more than a couple armies going
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>>492790291
Cause a rebellion in karak azorn, let the rebels take the settlement back, then befriend them

>>492791924
Who would want some delf hag?
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>>492791901
he
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>>492791924
Do DE spread slanesh corruption?
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It's september already, when is the Devs Interview?!
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>>492792073
I think for character runes it's definitely useful.
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>>492791924
nice rump for an elgi
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>>492792554
That's not a nice rump it's flat and small
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>>492792554
It's a mod, Morathi is a stick in every appearance. Elffags have to cheat to make their women have any curves.
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>>492791232
I miss the old brimstones
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>>492792915
Why does she look like a bugman in that drawing? Is this the evolution of the druchi?
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>>492792178
I can't even get a hehe?
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https://www.moddb.com/mods/silmarillion-total-war1

holy shit, this is awesome, altho I wish they did it in Attila and not Med 2, it looks so incredibly dated while it released in 2024
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>>492792253
Only her (always) and Malus (when in high possession).
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The Creative Assembly (local) is God's gift to mankind.
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>>492792670
>>492792915
Can you show us how a fine Dwarf lady look like by any chance ?
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>>492792915
I think this is official art and she's got pretty big ones here.
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>>492793162
depictions of how elves look varies from piece to piece but in general they're supposed to be humanoid but markedly inhuman
artists are just lazy over time and tone it down to make their jobs easier and most of the differences weren't apparent on the model detail scale anyway
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>>492793980
Wtf is wrong w her skin why is it so ashy and dry
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>>492794201
She hasn't had a chance to shower since Malekith kicked her out of Ghrond.
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Imagine being baby Malekith drinking your elven milk.
now imagine being grown Malekith still drinking your elgi milk
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Knights of Bretonnia!
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>>492794627
>>492794002
>>492793980
>>492792915

i really like morathis design. shes one of the most powerful and conniving characters in the setting but she looks rather plain (for an elf). its neat to see from time to time instead of everything getting bigger as the character gets more powerful. she could pass for a random elgi servant girl and also somehow fits well with all the females in the setting seething about her
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>>492796307
>shes one of the most powerful and conniving characters in the setting
And yet she gets mogged by her own son in every single loredump.
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I hate that slaanesh is the only chaos god that is forced to cope with "acktually slaaneshi demons have transcended human concepts of aesthetics and turned into lobster freaks because they were already bored of being normally attractive." they don't pull this shit with the other chaos gods. imagine a champion of khorne who transcended regular anger and looped around to acting friendly all the time, or a nurgle demon who decayed so much he's just a pile of dirt. even if you want to claim that those are loreful it obviously isn't their primary depiction because it's fucking lame.
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>>492796569
shes the power behind the throne. elves are jews and shes a typical turbo jewess, cucking both her husband and her son
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>>492796307
I think that's mostly down how she's drawn or presented.
Supposedly if we go by writing she's suppose to be the second most beautiful woman in the world (after non granny Hellebron)
Though obviously if you "look" too deeply you see all the corruption seeping out and that's inherently repulsive.
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>>492796780
i meant plain in character design like armor and stuff. i know shes a hottie but thats not the same thing

i remember watching a trailer for that warhammer MMO and not even realizing the random stripper elf fighting in it was morathi until much later
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>>492796971
Ha, I see.
I think the most unique thing is her big crown.
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>>492796780
its funny how many of the female characters hold the title of most beautiful woman in the world simultaneously
gw not exactly a font of creativity
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>>492797312
>in a setting with magic its a surprise that as soon as they can every female uses it to look better and is obsessed with looking better than everyone other female

its even official lore in settings like the witcher lel
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>>492797312
I'm pretty sure the only 3 that have this said about them is Morathi, Alarielle and Hellebron.
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>>492797623
and morathi vs morathi beauty is a plot detail
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>>492796764
The slaanesh aesthetics are just representative of their nature. Daemonettes and Keepers of Secrets change their forms based off who is looking at them and the beasts are just beasts.
Slaanesh daemons aren't supposed to look sexy, they are supposed to look depraved and perverted because that's their true nature and it would be impossible to have them changing forms.
Kind of like how beastmen are supposed to be hybrids of all animals, but all we see is raroos.
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>>492797623
and the fay enchantress and lucrezzia belladonna with at least a few others that aren't at the forefront of my mind
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>>492797929
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Tomb kings
>send out agents and declare war on roaming armies with books of Nagash
>when you reach rank 5 base recruitment for lords, recruit and dismiss them to stack jars
>send ptras necrotect as followers of nagash to nagashizzar
Dark elves
>send slaves to one province only until it maxes out
>build hero capacity buildings in settlements, generic unit buildings in black arks
>corsairs are not for line holding nor dedicated ranged troops
Skaven
>abandon and recolonize your starting settlement when you get enough food to do it at a high tier
>spread undercities as soon as possible, to lands you know you won't touch for a while

I just started playing lizardmen. Any similiar tips to makr my game go smoother / not fucked mid game. Can't find much on the geomatic web
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>>492797993
they are all magic and they all use magic to look like stacys except maybe morathi, i cant remember
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>>492797993
Also Neferata.
Lucrezzia Til*an though, so she loses by default.
It's probably
Hellebron > Morathi > Alarielle > Fay (with her feet out) > Neferata
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After finishing this campaign, I can confidently say it sucks. They still haven't given markus the ability to unlock the tier 3 gunner building allowing more witch hunter slots, and he can't get elector count state troops
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>>492798565
>Hellebron

get the fuck off the internet Hel' and go back to collecting blood
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>>492796764
What you see them as is not what they'd appear as if they were trying to beguile you.
Technically speaking, all models and representations of daemonettes and such are them about to slit your throat and open your entrails. Not trying to seduce you, necessarily.
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>>492798752
i like the generic hunter lord more than wulfharts. his ability to just give any and all units vanguard deployment is lazy and not fun. with generic hunter lords you get to build a special forces woods force and actually make use of those dumb archers and stuff
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>>492798763
Hellebron is 100% the prettiest girl to ever live.
That's why Morathi seethes eternally at her.
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>>492799028
shes got liver spots bro and you seethe lore is backwards
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>>492798306
geomantic web is shit and useless just ignore it
I don't know of any specific funny strats for lizardmen but I can only assume their progression is less ass after their building chains got shuffled a little last patch
haven't played them myself though but you would have to consciously make it worse than it was
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>>492799216
It's okay, she can get better with just a few dead people.
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>>492798752
it was better before 3 because now you have a dozen human butt buddies that can have your back instead of proper inna jungle surviving
Yuan Bo and the Bret make you safer but also just get in the way of your expansion
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Total War has missed a huge opportunity by not adding big bootied goblin bitches to the game.
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>>492789873
Built for bellypunching until the blunt trauma radiating in through her tummy and towards her womb activates her body's evolved danger response and forces her to ovulate
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>>492797929
you can look depraved and perverted and sexy at the same time. chaos is interesting because it shows evil in a human context even though it's run by demons. khorne is angry in a way humans recognize as anger. nurgle is gross and shitty in a way humans recognize as gross and shitty, and tzeench schemes in ways that humans can almost understand and then get fucked by. slaanesh is the only one that gets the "well they're demons do they don't have to fit human expectations" shit.

>>492798812
that's just cope. a nurgle monster looks like some disgusting puke creature because that fits his theme and looks cool. ugly ass lobster goats don't look cool or have any reasonable connection to the theme of degenerate coomers.
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the real reason beastmen want to tear down civilization is that all the beastdoes only went for human men but the anti hmofa establishment doesn't want you to know this
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>>492793980
Which mod is this
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what's the point of huntsman anyway
they have anti-large but no armour piercing so they kind of just suck at shooting most large units which are armoured anyway
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>>492798054
idk man they still look more creepy than sexy to me
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>>492799907
Roster bloat. Any Empire player is going to be blasting monsters with HANDGUNNERS! or their artillery options
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>>492799748
it's not just cooming, it's the pursuit of perfection and impossible heights of experience
but those do often go along with looking attractive
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>>492799907
Empire has a retardedly large roster on the tabletop and as a result they have a retardedly large roster in-game.
Imagine if Space Marines, IG, Sisters of Battle, and Mechanicus were all one faction. Not subfactions, one single faction. You'd hold up a guardsman and ask "what's the point of this when I have tactical marines?", not realizing that you are taking something that might work in-context both in lore and on the tabletop and shoving it into a different context where it doesn't belong.
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>>492800023
those bodies are ridiculous and you are insane
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>>492799748
>ugly ass lobster goats don't look cool or have any reasonable connection to the theme of degenerate coomers.
Slaanesh theme is not "degenerate cooming" or even "degeneracy" necessarily.
It's excess. That's the entire point. The cultists yell it out even, excess in all things.
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>>492800042
>tfw greatcannons snipe a flying-on-dragonback lord from a melee facefucker faction out of the sky before he gets within a hundred yards
unparalleled
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the germans are forcing their way through the arden, hopefully maginot line can be retaken quickly
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>>492800290
>Skaven are the French
That tracks.
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>>492800273
I don't know of many slaanesh cultists who seek to be excessively ugly
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>>492800247
>those bodies are ridiculous
Yeah they are and that's why I(obligatory NTA btw) don't find them hot. But that's probably because I don't have Slaaneshi corruption. Presumably the whole point is if you're normal you don't find crab claws and one-male-breast-one-female-titty chests attractive, but eventually you're so far gone that distorted monster mouths with sharp teeth and ayylmao eyes look appealing.
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>>492798306
Play a dlc lord rather than a free one, preferably Tehenuian. His sacrifice pyramid is easy to progress through and has some nice bonuses.
The base game/flc lords suck except for Gor-Rok (and he is only good because he starts with LH Lord Kroak, but that's just an early game buff since all of their LLs get him eventually)
Geomantic web is only decent in the late game and even then not really noticeable. Just construct the geomantic web pylon in your major settlements and with enough of them going your commandments will be stronger.
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>>492797929
And yet they have events about having sex? Okay, TCA shill. They just are too lazy to make assets that are appealing.
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>>492800598
not finding above average female form attractive is a sign of slaanesh corruption
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>>492799907
Ill conceived DLC themeing to just an Empire faction in Lustria.
Huntsmarshal would have been better as a hero.
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these plagues are totally shutting me down

what am i supposed to do about them?
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>>492796764
It's just the old school satantic cults moral panic thing - nobody who freaked out about those cults ever found anything about hypothetical devil worship particularly tempting - the followers always were shitty people who made stupid choices and got screwed by their dark masters in the end. like 99% of chaos shit in the warhammer world just fucks you over and gives you nothing in return, they just exist as something a Right Thinking Person can sneer at without actually giving up anything by refusing to hail one of the not-satans

slaanesh is the one chaos god that seems to have the most straightforward, understandable appeal of weird sex and parties and drugs so it has to be the one thats most bullshit in refusing to actually deliver these things to you. yet again the satan cult thing is how degenerate devil rock music and d&d couldn't just be about offering fun times, it had to actually be about subliminal messages to trick people into murdering babies or some dumb shit like that. because if the followers of slaanesh actually got to fuck hot nasty elf demons then you'd feel like being a devout Sigmarite might make you a bit of a fucking square or something
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>>492800598
What's really funny is since Slaanesh is supposed to be the peak of excess and Chaos is a primal force impacted by the psyche of the living, the implication is that in the Warhammer Fantasy universe, deep inside the primal subconscious of living beings is a lust for crab hands and if you remove enough inhibitions that's where everyone eventually reaches

Its like that crab evolution thing but sexual. Eventually everyone lusts for crabs
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>>492796764
Anger isn't subjective but fetishes and sexuality is.
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Wait beastmen campaigns actually start with a beastman yelling "BEASTMAN RAROO!"
what the fuck
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>>492799907
On tabletop they were just archers that could just be dropped onto the map after the battle had begun, sort of like vanguard deployment
CA was too incompetent or too afraid to recreate this in game so they tried to make compromises like making huntsmen have token anti-large/fire while moving and dwarf miners just became shitty fodder with vanguard deployment
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>>492801275
what is sexually attractive to most humans has actually been incredibly universal and consistent for most of human history
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>>492801715
>>>/d/ would disagree and that's what Slaanesh represents. No longer giving a fuck.
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>>492801561
Did you think it was a joke?

Raroo
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>>492800489
Some of these niggas are pretty ugly.
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>>492796764
>A Lord Of Change who has gone so far in schemes he's reached Tzeentchian post-modernist irony nirvana and now just always tells the straightforward truth
>Nobody ever believes him because he starts all interactions by explaining that, in the spirit of good faith, he's compelled to reveal that he is a daemon of the Great Conspirator
>Ends up managing to succeed anyway because his opponents get so psyched out trying to work out what his real secret plot must be that they completely ignore, for example, 800 pink horrors simply walking into their city through the main entrance
Sounds kind of fun tbqh
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>>492801812
I don't know what came first the line or the meme
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>>492801792
I don't give a fuck what fringe coomers think is attractive, slaanesh is an amalgamation of the desires of the whole
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>>492802262
And the whole includes the fringe.
Your problem is you are trying to imagine coomer Heaven when Slaanesh is the Chaos God of torture, futa, ugly bastard, and every other tag in the book. All those together make a mess, and Slaanesh is that mess.
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>>492802262
Slaanesh is excess, not desire.
It's not about finding something attractive or desirable. It's about pursuing desire until you cross over into inhuman desire.
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>>492802382
the fringe is a small minority, meaning that the daemons would tend towards the preferences of the majority
how's that not a concept that you immediately understand
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>>492802121
>"I'm gonna attack you from the east tomorrow at two in the afternoon"
>"GUARD CAPTAIN, ORDER YOUR MEN TO CEASE REINFORCING OUR EASTERN FLANK AND CONCENTRATE ON BUILDING UP OUR DEFENSES IN THE WEST. HAVE THE TROOPS STAND GUARD ALL NIGHT FOR THAT IS WHEN THE SNEAK ATTACK WILL SURELY COME"
>Next day when 2 PM hits everyone is fucking exhausted from lack of sleep and the east flank is completely open
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>>492802545
Too bad you're wrong.
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>>492802453
"born of mortal inspiration and desire"
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>>492802121
>>492802552
>sitting down for negotiations
>tzeentch demon tells the other guy one of the two drinks is poisoned
>'which one'
>'the cup on your left'
>guy reaches for cup on his left thinking that its a lie and it will be the non-poisoned one'
>drinks poison he was warned about and dies
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>>492802597
well, if you're just going to give up, feel free
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>>492802545
The point is the Slaanesh wants you at the fringe. It wants you to in fact redefine the fringe and then keep redefining it until you hate yourself for it but you keep doing it and loving it anyway.
Again, excess.
>>492802741
All chaos gods are born of base emotions but then taken to their horrible extremeles. Khorne isn't just mindless bloodlust but rather pursuit of battle and war. For Tzeentch isn't just a crazy schizo plotter but something who seeks knowledge. And Nurgle is not just a god of decay but also rebirth.
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>>492802898
no u
We've explained to you why you are wrong, you think this is some argument you can win by stating your position on the matter, but your position is irrelevant because GW makes these decisions not you. Or us, for that matter. So either enjoy being laughed at going forward, or go be an autist somewhere else.
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>First day of the ninth month of the two thousand and twenty-fourth Year Of Our Lord
>Vampire Coast still can't replenish at sea
:)
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>>492803279
Shouldn't you be able to if you control an ocean 'province' outright?
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>>492803098
>>492802982
GW has literally explained that the chaos gods are slaves to the emotions that fuel them, they were born and shaped by those same emotions, and that those are the emotions experienced by all mortals
they feed off of those emotions and seek to elicit more of what sustains them, their appearance is determined by those emotions, and therefore their form is dictated by the feelings of the masses
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company stats:
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-indie
-mom n pop
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>>492789873
https://youtu.be/3B4cKvNW5NM
schematics from Nan-Gau!
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>>492803279
how would they get the corpses off the bottom of the sea
actually, how do they supposedly get undead from the sea at all, wouldn't all the bodies just disintegrate or be eaten by fish
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>retards arguing about imaginary beings like some dragon ball power ranking autists
truly it is the end times
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>>492803658
Now switch them both to melee so a pack of cute chink girls with soft nubile ranged-unit bodies getting decimated by a group of big strong flabby ugly men
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>>492803835
>how would they get the corpses off the bottom of the sea
Diving bells aren't hard to construct, particularly if air isn't a problem.
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>>492803880
Do you care about anything, anon?
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>>492804048
Part of not being autistic is knowing when to pick your battles. When GW decides to base Slaanesh on Hellraiser, that's no longer up for debate.

You might as well start arguing that Khorne shouldn't be a retarded bloodthirsty rage monkey because "GW said he's supposed to be honorable :("
Chaos Gods are evil. End of story.
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>>492803605
Yes but the issue is that due to the nature of chaos, they always tend towards negative extremes, even if they begin with positive or neutral emotions.
You don't start your journey down the Slaanesh rabbit hole by going straight into the snuff orgies and daemon birthing. It starts with something as simple as accepting a pair of thigh high boots
Yes I'm referencing the Miao mod, it's fitting to the argument.
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>>492804209
What?
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>>492804048
video games
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I want more units like thunderbarges and landships, those are so fucking cool
I wish there were more "a bunch of guys in the vehicle shoots out" things in general
Some, like the vampcoast shit comes to mind, but the damage dealt by the """crew""" is so pitiful by comparison to landships etc
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>>492801702
Dwarf miners can be deployed like that now with the deep buildings.
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>>492804486
I'd like Bretonnia to get something like that. Giant castle powered by ZEE LADY and peasants.
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What the fuck, since when did they get rid of Chaos as an endgame crisis? I didnt even notice because the moment the option to choose came out I've had WAAAGH/Vermintide/Zombies toggled on and never touched it

Kind of missing Archaon pulling up out of the north with eight stacks of chaosmanii now
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>>492804795
cringe
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>>492800273
that's just the cope they use for censorship. slaanesh is easy to understand because you can see slaaneshi corruption everywhere in real life. all of those drug addicts that ruin their lives to get high again? slaanesh. all of those celebrities who keep getting implicated in child sex trafficking? slaanesh. when you realize that your porn is disgusting only after you cum? slaanesh.

>>492801792
/d/ is absolutely slaanesh. it has chicks with dicks, chicks with impossible huge tits, chicks with 3 tits, chicks with mouths for pussies, chicks with pussies for mouths, chicks with magic bimbofication tattoos, and chicks with living clothes that rape them. what doesn't it have? chicks with fucking alien faces and lobster claws.

>>492803098
the point is that gw wrote the lore wrong on purpose, not as a joke, but so they could make the game pg-13 so little timmy could spend his mom's money on it.
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>>492804927
They keep saying they're holding it back until they get it just right
I assume they're waiting for all the monogods to get their DLC or waiting for that End Times DLC if it's real so they can have every chaos faction operating at peak dickbag levels
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Are beastmemes Slaanesh?
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>>492804323
but they will still retain visual traits that remain attractive to the average person whom envies that path
that of khorne will appear powerful in battle
that of nurgle will appear unbothered by suffering
that of tzeentch will appear esoteric in knowledge
that of slaanesh should appear desirable in form
these are true of all of the chaos units EXCEPT slaanesh
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>>492805159
No, they're just vanilla chaos.
Although they can have individual beastmen that are marked and promised to a particular god.
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>>492804795
i thought there was a floating castle in setting
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time for some dark lands kino
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>>492805064
>that's just the cope they use for censorship. slaanesh is easy to understand because you can see slaaneshi corruption everywhere in real life. all of those drug addicts that ruin their lives to get high again? slaanesh. all of those celebrities who keep getting implicated in child sex trafficking? slaanesh. when you realize that your porn is disgusting only after you cum? slaanesh.
You just made my argument for me. All you just said lends support for the fact that Slaanesh is the chaos god of excess and thus a daemonette's true form isn't going to be beautiful necessarily.
>>492805217
And Slaanesh units aren't completely ugly. They have monstrous aspects, but they retain some appealing traits. Ask monstergirlfags. A crab claw hand ain't a deal breaker.
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people always shit talk beastmemes or lustria
and so I've started a beastmemes campaign and moved to lustria
I'm sure it'll be fine
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>>492805456
>willingly joining the Lustrabowl
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>>492805159
Beastmen are products of big C chaos, they inherently seek to do everything that empowers the gods.
They slaughter, they spread filth and disease, they often work through cunning an deceit, and they always attempt to bring their dark triumphs to greater heights.
They are ever neglected by the gods, the chaos gods knowing that they need expend no effort to maintain their devotion, but a small number of beastmen will dedicate themselves to a specific god and some will even earn favor.
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>>492804026
>why don't you put your ranged units in melee???
smartest ogrefag right here...
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>>492805396
they fucking absolutely are completely revolting, nobody who isn't already in the fringe finds daemonettes as they are in TWWH attractive at all
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>>492806162
I don't find them attractive overall, but they do definitely have attractive *aspects* to them. Just all the Sharpness ruins it.
But I guess if you're enough of a pervert...
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>>492806162
>nobody who isn't already in the fringe finds daemonettes as they are in TWWH attractive at all
That's the point. Daemonettes only show their true self once you are on the fringe. Before that they beguile and mask themselves to appear beautiful. Their true self is monstrous and representative of excess, but they mask it. Just like how you are drawn into that excess by having things that are more traditionally appealing dangled in front of you, or how you're drawn into obsession to the point of evil by appealing to tamer and perhaps even positive desires.
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>>492805804
it's the most diverse area, plenty of unique blood to spill
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>>492805396
if a demonette is a demon of excess horny she should look like someone skyrim character with way too many porn mods installed, not an alien from a crustacean planet. the kind of thing you think is super hot when you are horny but disgusting when you aren't.
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>>492806528
The thing is that you're on basic bitch level (no offense) of "super hot when you are horny but disgusting when you aren't."
You are defining that as "coom mods you find disgusting after cooming" and that's fair, but what you find disgusting after cooming (and only after cooming) is so far removed from what you WILL find disgusting after cooming once Slaanesh is done with you that it's not even funny
And again it's important to note that daemonettes only look like this in truth. While trying to beguile you they won't appear as their true selves.
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my eyes keep watering bros
why are they like this
I can't go on like this
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>>492806441
no, it's not the point, see
>>492805217
CA was just terrified of giving slaaneshi daemons any attractive features at all
just about the only passable part of a daemonette in TWWH is a small part of their thighs
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>>492806441
>Their true self is monstrous and representative of excess
like massive tits with lipples, a pussy with a tongue coming out of it, and a giant futa cock. that's what someone who watched so much porn he can't get off to normal shit is looking at, not bitches with fucked up faces and lobster claws.
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>>492806825
like I said this is just cope that no other chaos god is subjected to. corn doesn't have super chaos anger that regular humans can't recognize as anger. he just has regular anger, because the whole point of chaos gods is that they're supposed to show darkness that's relatable to the human condition.
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>corn doesn't have super chaos anger that regular humans can't recognize as anger
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>>492806886
There's quite a few models in WH3 that are attractive and WH2 has the delves including the supreme sorceresses
Never mind the descriptions and events for Slaanesh.
CA isn't afraid of sex. That isn't the reason. Daemonettes look like this in the tabletop too.
>>492807127
You're wrong though. Khorne has plenty of examples of people that fell due to things like searching for honorable combat but getting to deep into the violence. Tzeentch also, just about every Tzeentch story of corruption starts with seeking knowledge but going too far.
Nurgle's the only good that corrupts from a point of evil to begin with, often subjecting his victims to despair and offering "salvation", which fits the cyclical nature of his domain as a chaos god.
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>CA isn't afraid of sex
I'm starting to suspect
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>>492791859
only the engineer lord gets a steam tank mount. the heroes dont. there isnt a dawi engineer lord except for malakai and he gets an airship
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>>492805390
Disgusting.
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i want my delf version of dwarves bros
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>>492807616
half the reason TT daemonettes look as bad as they do is because they're shitty little plastic models and they still don't look nearly as bad as they do in TWWH
and I'll also point out that CA has consistently made their female models(including the ones that are supposed to look attractive) look worse than models from 18 years ago
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>>492808307
You have them, they're called chaos dwarfs.
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>>492807873
its fun i promise
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>>492808451
delves arent chaos aligned retard
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>>492808309
Witch elves look dreadful yea. Probably CA's worst take after damsels.
But you still have supreme sorceresses, sisters of slaughter (bald aside), all of the welf roster as well.
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>>492807616
>Khorne has plenty of examples of people that fell due to things like searching for honorable combat but getting to deep into the violence.
those guys aren't his basic unit models that you see in every army though.
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Bros who the FUCK is that sailing towards me
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>>492808902
I'll hear nothing of wood elves when CA WON'T EVEN REPLICATE THE ART THEY PUT IN THE GAME
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>>492809242
me
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>>492809242
>"Whom amongst you is in command here?"
>60 different voices start talking
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>>492809243
Bladesingers
Redhead elf waifu.
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>>492808668
>delves arent chaos aligned retard
Whose LL spreads Chaos Corruption ever since TWW2?
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>>492809404
no
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>>492809775
i want to smell her pits
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>>492809775
I want to RA her until she ROOs
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>>492809775
>meanwhile in 2008
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>>492809775
I wanna pounce her in a dark alley and just shove myself into her
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>>492811447
Sir this is a blue board, no porn allowed!
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is total war the video game series that would benefit most from advancements in artificial intelligence?
I'm pretty sure the majority of everyone's problems with total war are caused by shit AI
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>>492812839
Generative AI isn't actually intelligent. It just passes various Chinese Room tests.
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>>492791003
I'm going to miss brasil.
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>>492814161
why
what's gonna happen to brazil
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>>492812839
CA makes sure to retard the AI otherwise players will feel they have small pp and not play and buy dlc
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>>492814161
Can Musk beef with India and get that cuntry removed too. Fuck
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>>492811770
The world will know the secret love between Kerillian and eighty seven rats
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>>492788085
its not accurate so called mr 'archeologist'
it assume constant level and constant decay of C-14 and completely do not take under consideration local environmental changes
like are you for real? where you get your diploma? in turkish kebab stall?
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>>492796307
Her design for TWW seem to be based on her 7th edition art more than anything.
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>>492798306
>send ptras necrotect as followers of nagash to nagashizzar
Isn't the city full of rats ?
>send slaves to one province only until it maxes out
Slaves are no more a Province to Province thing.
Now it's a faction wide ressource.
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>>492798752
> he can't get elector count state troops
Really ? I remember event like "will you back the Elector of Ostland or Wissenland, both want your ships to send cargo to them".
Don't you get specific elector state unit by backing them ?
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>>492802214
"Beastmen RAA-ROO" is the sound you get along some faction notification pop-up (and you get them often).
personally i like the little night gobbo enthusiastically whispering unintelligible[ things to his Orc Boss/spoiler]
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Sfincione, Caprese, Polenta
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>>492799258
Alright, thanks
>>492800801
Yea, I'm playing Gor-Rok atm. Really wanted a tanky dude and I heard good things about Kroak and he really dies slap
>>492821439
Sorry, I'm playing the finished TW warhammer 2 game. Probbably should've mentioned it
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>>492809775
The cup size Sqvire surrendered his virginity too
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fellas?
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>>492824435
Unwinnable. Laborers too motivated
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>>492824435
lovin this nice green Elf map in the middle of Chorf territory, nicely done CA
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>>492799907
Huntsman General should get in his skill tree an option to remove his bow (loosing the abilities linked to it) and get a long range handgun instead.
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Does Slaanesh still have any kind of uniqueness ?
>WoC and (2) Delves spread Slaanesh corruption
>WoC and Daemon Prince faction have acces to Slaanesh roster
>WoC have acces to Seduction and Vassals
>Other mono-god can build cult now with Heroes
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>>492825081
Slaanesh in general seems like the shittest jobber demon faction
>Oh no, a late-game Slaanesh doomstack! Look at all that light infantry, light cav and armored guys with no bite
They really shouldn't have been made to wait last for their DLC
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>Black Arks
>Shared core mechanic to every single Druchi campaign
>One(1) boring fucking map
>Every single fucking time
Wabba wabba bing bong bang! Smol Indiana firmirno?
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>>492824435
>ungrim
>only 2 slayer units
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My issue with Slaanesh is how one-dimensional they are. They're almost as bad as Beastmen. Every single battle is "try to get a good rushdown bumfuck charge on them because you have good speed." Their spells are neat at least. Honestly Khorne is kind of like this too. After the first 25 seconds of jostling for the best mosh pit spots you just kinda let the battle play itself.

Really reduces them to NPC factions for me honestly. Like I can have fun playing them for 25 turns for flavor but after that I need a faction with some adaptability if I'm going to do an actual IE campaign. Empire, rats, dorfs, greenskins, etc.
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Will they add marked Aspiring Champions one day or will they be way too OP ?
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>>492827310
>Will CA give up on potential $$$ if it risks powercreep?
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Why are chaos faction so much more fun to play than order?
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>>492801062
transfer them to the healthy lord and hope you don't spread the plague further preferably by building anti plague buildings
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>>492827491
>Why is going MURDERSMASHKILL on everyone like an unleashed rape hurricane more entertaining than trying to larp as a diplomat and make friends in a game where diplomacy sucks dick
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>Stare at faction select screen for 15 minutes like I'm reading a menu at a restaurant
>Click everything, check unit rosters, etc
>End up doing another vcoast campaign
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>>492827310
Nah, they're strictly an Undivided thing
I don't think they'll ever even get rid of the arbitrary restriction on the weapon options of marked Chaos warriors and chosen
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>>492791003
Literally me and my brown wife.
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Damn, is Tamurkhan's start really this brutal? I've been fighting non stop without chance to get some replenishment going.
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>>492829061
>without chance to get some replenishment going.
Just shit in your pants and you'll get troops back
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>>492829061
yes and no
if you REALLY want an easy Tamurkhan campaign
betray chaos and take all the north before the ordertide sees you(ai will typically see you as soon as you step on their land, one of their heroes wander onto your land, or you ally with an ai)
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>>492829061
just coof on yourself for replenishment or get the chieftan that insta replenishes if you're having issues
you can also try playing more battles manually but this is considered cheating
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>>492809243
ah what we could have had if not for the influence of Gr*ce and her ilk
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>>492829770
wot yew meen? WE 'AD DA FOINEST 'RITISH ROSES FACE SCANNED FA DA BRETTONIAN DAMSELS!
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>>492821671
i dont think anon knows only karl gets them now
you used to get them as everyone just by holding the lands of said elector counts
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>>492829945
gelt can get them through research without taking those lands or even being in the empire
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>>492827491
diplomacy is non functional and the ai values settlements so much that if some cunt snipes a settlement in a province you wanted you need a mod to be able to buy the settlement
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>>492830059
he will not get anything by holding the lands like he used to same with volkmar but they used to before they were given their own campaigns instead of being shitty versions of karl
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>>492829525
>going north
I want to kill Grimgor.
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>>492830614
you asked for an easy tamurkhan run and I gave it to you
my work is DONE
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Is it me or is Three Kingdoms the hardest TW game? 120 turns in and nowhere near winning.
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>>492828261
>they're strictly an Undivided thing
They even shouldn't be a unit to start with.
But they are here so i don't see why you can't upgrade your marked chosen.
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what is this shitty op
i will murder every single retard in this general
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>>492829945
>i dont think anon knows only karl gets them now
lol
Playing Volkmar right now.
Each book of Nagash in possession unlock some of them (+runefangs swords).
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>>492831873
I am currently in a relenationship
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>Slaanesh is due to have at least 3 characters (LL / free LL / LH).
>Only 2 named Slaanesh characters left
Will CA do another "Cylostra" or are there more obscure characters somewhere ?
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>>492831894
i worded it badly i meant you only get them through holding the lands as karl
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I love Slaanesh
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>>492832547
>Dechala LL
>Masque FLC
>Styrkaar the Whoever LH
They can make it work but there's not a whole lot to use
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>>492803279
there's a mod for that
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i find myself in the mood for some hoplite action
i know i will regret playing this piece of shit but i will do so against my better judgement
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>>492832547
people only care about boobsnakes and dechala
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>>492834008
>16 gb
those were the days
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Volkmar cut me off from the rest of the desert as Repanse and he's not taking a military access deal
Do I just fight him now?
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>>492834260
its actually 31 but the download is much smaller
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STOP SHOWING ME A PHAROAH AD EVERYTIME I OPEN THE LAUNCHER FOR SHOGUN 2 YOU WHORES
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>>492793382
>they did it in Attila
you need to teleport and bring them tools and skills needed to edit map for that
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WE
ARE
THE
PIRATE KING
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>>492824228
Should have gone for an Asur
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i hate generic lords, how do i confederate the other chorf LLS as soon as possible? last time i tried i managed to confederate one of them only by turn 90
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Give me this setting for Total War.
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>>492836023
you just need to expand faster so you get more influence from towers and have more provinces of slaves to sacrifice for influence to zoom up the tower of zharr
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>>492836023
defeated lords confederation mod and kill them yourself
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>>492836114
Sure, unit size to the smallest possible and set rhaphics settings ot low or medium
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>>492836130
>you just need to do the most obvious and simple thing
?????
im asking for ways to cheese it
even if i focus ONLY on farming influence using this way it will still take 70 turns
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>>492802121
3k(2010) have similar moments
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>>492802121
>dare person that he would get a reward if he remained sane for 3 days
>do nothing
>person goes crazy anyway out of fear and anxiety

>make bet over who can torment this artist who gets vivid images from nightmares more
>competition sends terrible nightmares
>do nothing when it's your turn
>artist goes crazy because he thinks his patron abandoned him

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m6PxRwgjzZw
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is 3k is a history game why does it have high morale chinks?
checkm8
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Can the Tzeentch factions break all your military and defensive alliances in the same turn?
Because all my military alliances dissolved in the same turn and all of them are still friendly; not friendly enough to re-enter the alliance, but still in the green triple digits.
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>>492836669
They got raped therefore their chink genes are happy. Raped races receive very big morale increases when you rape them.
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Anoyone playan this https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F9vQimMK1u8
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>>492836343
playing chorfs IS cheesing the game
if you play their battles well you expand and progress faster than any other faction in the game because the only bar to your progress is ore and slaves which you can actively acquire while everyone else has to wait for growth at a set rate they have little to no control over besides building inefficient growth buildings that only barely speed up how long it takes to get to T5
chorfs can literally either spend influence to conquer at T5 or simply spend the gold, ore, and slaves to brute force a T5 with all desired buildings up on the same turn starting with a T1 to cheap out on influence which makes previous skaven cheese strats look like a joke
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>>492836669
they have only high morale compared to other chinks
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>>492836985
some of them are unbreakable
shut the fuck up
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>>492837031
they are just unbreakable by other chinks
i bet you could break them
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>>492837031
It's an evolutionary advantage. If their anuses were breakable, it would mean an end to their rape. A fate worse than death.
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grace was right about you
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>>492837281
I'm afraid I will never be as racist and sexist as she believes I am and I'll have to carry that weight with me for the rest of my life
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I desire Miao Ying carnally
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>>492827310
>>492828261
>>492831751
Marked Aspiring Champions seem to be a RoR thing.
The only one we got so far is the Tzentch one from Champions of Chaos DLC.
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>>492835909
Post the real version.
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>>492837907
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>>492838040
Holy based, will Quest for this fair Lady!
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Post your LEAST favorite WH3 faction!
And design your ideal waifu OC for that faction (if it has no females lorewise like liggers or orcs design a battle bro or pet monster)
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>>492838127
I find VCoast the least interesting, don't hate them per se. I think Luthor Harkon is based, so Luthor's big booba twin sister that is also a schizo and dual wields pistols spamming them like Saltzpyre from Vermintide.
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>>492838127
Ogres.
A "waifu" Ogre ? I guess she coock well.
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this was spicy with no armaments
cds are strong baseline
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>>492838542
hobgoblin archers are so stupidly good
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>Play Dwarves
>Assign ai to Thunderbarges
>Airships all die
>Woah, these things are archer pin cushions
>Later find out Airships all kill themselves cause they're using an active ability that causes self-harm
>AI think's it's good cause speed boost
>No cheats to disable this ability or remove self-damage
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>>492838127
Daemons of Chaos..
I guess female Daniel, undvided theme wearing chaos warrior esque top that covers her breasts leaving six pack on display along with wearing a spiked collar, Valkia style warrior tassett skirt and leg armor, that snapping mouth tail. Oh and holding a big two handed mace and sporting a long tongue.
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>>492838127
Kislev.
Female Tzar guard with viking "mohawk" and bardiche.
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>>492839601
it was clearly a dumb "dood wouldn't it be so cool and interesting if the button did this" idea in the design meeting
could have just been a speed up button with a limited duration and a cooldown like with every other fucking ability in the game but giving it a DoT in return for being a toggle was probably made purely to add an extra line of text onto that building Malakai has that lowers the damage for his special thunderbarge to pad out the effects list
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>>492838127
>And design your ideal waifu OC for that faction (if it has no females lorewise like liggers or orcs design a battle bro or pet monster)
Gross breeder hands typed this post. No /twg/, you'll won't tempt me again this time
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>>492840250
Faggots weren't invited to reply because you're not human.
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Saddest piece of lore?
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>>492840616
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>>492840616
Sqvire only got to have 30 children with his 3 elven mistresses
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>>492840616
I honestly think nurgle and isha are a sad instead of scary story. He really does admire her abilities, after all.
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>>492840748
Non, he only bangs the schizo and the cone, you must be confusing him with another squire.
>>492840867
Isn't that 40K? Or is there something I missed in fantasy?
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>>492841050
no I mean they're both the same kind of god except you know
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>>492840748
Sau Sau has taught him well
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>>492840748
cute but not possible
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>>492840616
End Times series,and if there were no end times, then Storm of Chaos
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>>492841358
Yeah. It's impossible for him to have fewer than 100 kids across all his mistresses.
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>>492840616
>Saddest piece of lore?
Lizardmen can't sexually reproduce
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GIVE ME YOUR SLANN GOLD
I WILL STAB YOUR THROAT
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>>492841256
So Isha blesses Ulthuan, gives everyone explosive diarrhea and designated shitting streets emerge.
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>>492841496
Saar, do not redeem the Vortex!
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>>492840616
Franz has a tomboy childhood friend wife and two lovely children but he can barely spend any time with them because he has to do his duty as Emperor
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>>492840616
Beastmen job in their own armybook
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its up
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>>492840616
>g-gobbla ?!
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Is it just me or is Numidia kind of crap in Rome 1 Total War?

>Terrible unit roaster with the most basic Skirmisher, Slingers and Archers. Their famous skirmish cavalry has so small ammo count that they can only kill a third of a unit before being out of ammo. Their elite unit as the Numidian Legionary with combat stats equal to a Principes but they take 2 turns to build and need a tier 4 barracks like a fucking Praetorian Cohort.
>Same building list as Carthage expect some advanced buildings like tier 5 temples and any ports above the first tier are missing.
>Starts out close to the Romans and Egyptians so quickly ends up in war with the strongest factions.
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>>492841920
>dwarves
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I can do twelve consecutive pull ups, what faction should I play?
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>>492842298
sparta
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>>492842298
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>>492842298
Lorenzo Lupo the most /twg/ character to exist
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legend is a closeted chud and that is why he has my undying loyalty.
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>>492841909
kek typical really
at least they have a cool trailer
valkia jobs in her own trailer
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>unit is mimune to psychology
>flee
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>>492842040
yep
many factions are just enemy mooks and have no deep
>macedonia with 4 phalanx units, 4 shock cav units, 1 foot archer and 1 javeliner
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>>492843837
that's how i felt getting grombrindal's defeat trait
so many dwarf units are unbreakable or immune to psychology, or at the very least have really high base leadership
what a waste
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>get first province secured
>neighbour faction declares war almost automatically
>as you are on the cusp of beating said faction, the hostile faction furthest from your armies declare war and immediately razes/sacks/occupies your capital

every fucking time with this shitass AI. it hasn't been this bad since Shogun 2
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>>492838127
Tzeetnch.
A four armed sorceress with wings. Also tzeetnch demon eyes randomly on body.
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>>492845830
The game director told us we wouldn't like good AI though
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>>492845830
what game? what faction?
what difficulty?
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Is Volound an intellectual?
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When are they going to add 3K style diplomacy to the game?
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I NEED MORE SLAVES
PLEASE
WHOS GONNA WORK ON THE HECKIN FACTORINO
damn is this what rich people feel all the time?
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>>492847661
he is scotish, they are all fucking inbreed retards
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>>492845830
>razes/sacks/occupies your capital
i dont think this has happened to me a single time ever in any total war game to this day
skill issue
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>>492845830
skill issue
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paypigging for CA again
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>>492848086
Why don't you use something like cheap cd keys. You will get those dlc much cheaper.
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>>492848086
>Eight Princes
What the fuck were they thinking?
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>>492845830
but it's not a problem when player does it to AI huh?
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Are cheevos bugged? Got this turn 10ish something while only doing one siege.
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>>492848165
I did fortunately, 30 for pic rel
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>>492847661
makes you think...
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>>492848339
well I didn't
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>>492848504
this confirms the dead internet theory
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>>492848171
>>492848171
>thinking
I think you overestimate them
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>>492848392
nice! Also Ogre dlc is only 6 bucks! Might buy myself that one.
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>>492848392
and theres still rome 2 dlc I don't own
but I'll leave that for next month

don't think I'll play most of the campaigns either desu, might just get augustus, looks good
I also want the nomad one to play scythia

>>492848787
yeah I bought all the WH1/2/3 dlc I was missing last month, was like 70 even on key shops, probably 200 euros from steam store
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>>492848773
pretty much
bots, AI, spammers and demons
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post yfw TCAL'UK reveals Total Warhammer 40K
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I hope they will establish a Herdstone.
(asked them to occupy it).
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>>492848920
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>>492848920
>>492849080
not going to be a total war game, now cope and seethe
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>>492848920
This but unironically.
I can't wait to play
>Adeptus Mechanicus
>Imperial Guard
>Orks
>Tau
>Alpha Legion
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>>492848920
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>>492849287
Can you play as nurgle faction 40k?
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>>492849119
Sega told them they will be making only total war games. It might be related to full console team dissolving.
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>>492849287
>>492849312
>>492849412
Not going to be a total war game so you can throw your dreams into the bin
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>>492849412
Yeah, the Death Guard. They've got some of the sickest fucking minis.
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>>492848920
>space marine 2 dropping in 7 days
>I used my games budget this month on the 3k dlc and funding my gacha addiction
Crack please... Or I'll wait until next month ig...
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So yeah, the way Slanneshi Daemons look, I see no reason why anyone who isn't brain damaged would worship the God of Excess.
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>>492849554
Excess involves being ball tortured 24/7 and be in pain all the time pretty sure, it's hellraiser type shit, I've always heard nurgle is by far the best to worship, instead of inflicting you pain he removes it, and he actually cares about his followers a tiny bit, more than any of the other gods
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>>492848920
>...
90% of 40kek games are total slop, you'd be a fool to ever get hyped over any kind of reveal trailer instead of waiting for gameplay reveals
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>>492849856
There's lots of kino 40k games tho
>all dawn of war before 3
>fire warrior fps
>space marine
>rogue trader
haven't played the others, those are all good tho, soulstorm with unification mod is pseudo-total war
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>>492849412
There is a Nurgle dedicated Marine of Chaos faction and i guess if CA want it (and GW allow it) they can again seperate the demons in 4 races to have a Nurgle race.
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>>492849941
Oh and darktide it's good as well, not as much content as vermintide 2 yet tho

40k boltgun also excellent if you like oldschool fps
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>>492849494
>funding my gacha addiction
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One thing I don't know about TW 40K is how will the battles play out. Is there enough meele units in this setting?
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>>492850037
>seperate the demons in 4 races
That's probably gonna happen. Can't wait to muster my marauders, because CA is gonna forget to remove them.
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>>492849941
>names 4 good games
>ignores the other 50
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Games_Workshop_video_games
please read through this list first
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>>492850169
Yes there is, space marines should be hybrid with bolster + chainswords, khorne bloodletters are identical to the fantasy ones (which always struck me as weird as kislev chads go up against the same shit space marines do), and orcs love melee
Some factions like tau have kroot warriors for melee otherwise fully ranged, imp guard ig will be full ranged, etc
kino
https://youtu.be/rL3Zvyrvk4w?si=9M-Z819uVLO8f8oP

Blood ravens is my fav chapter due to growing up with dow1, altho imp guard 4life faction wise
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>>492850334
>khorne bloodletters are identical to the fantasy ones (which always struck me as weird as kislev chads go up against the same shit space marines do)
Fantasy daemons are weaker. Just knowing that daemons exist, it brings them strength in 40k.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qsxyY06TIrY
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>>492850489
im p sure most people dont know that daemons exist in 40k tho, its extremely prohibited knowledge
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>>492850056
my wife btw
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>>492840616
Vilitch spent his entire life being a victim of his brother and eventually got the upper hand in the relationship when Tzeentch intervened.
Vilitch's story ends by becoming a vessel of his once-slave brother, to be forever obedient to the sibling who had caused him so much torment.
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Cracking a cold one for my first chaos campaign
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>>492849075
Mission succeed ?
I'm not sure, even if they are my vassal i can't click on the settlement (or their encampments), for now the town just seem destroyed.
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>>492851173
I'm p sure that's way more dark elves thing than beastmen
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>>492851225
i dont think minor peepee poopoos even use herdstones atleast i have never seen them do it
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>>492849494
doesn't look like it has denuvo so it might be a day 1 crack
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>>492851026
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>>492851594
>40k has imperial raroos that fight for the god emperor
wtf why is this a thing
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>>492851538
It won't have Denuvo, they confirmed it.
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Is there actually a sizable number of anons that enjoy beastmen rape/corruption smut or is it just a very loud minority?
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>>492852023
its 1 guy bwo
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>>492849554
You're not really meant to be actually tempted, its something you imagine other people are tempted by because it makes you feel better to imagine everyone else is so dumb and fucked up compared to you.
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she is going places huh
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the next game is going to be Medieval 3 you know
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>>492852218
i wish
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>>492852218
Mice has thou retvrned?
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>>492852023
it's just one faggot spamming, sometimes that Amerimutt lets the mask slip and starts talking about black men directly
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Wait what, I thought WiC was a horde faction? I can literally map paint as usual? They just called it vassalization instead of occupation
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>>492845830
It's a legitimate challenge and probably one of the few cases of the AI actually acting intelligently, but fuck if chasing down armies that come out of nowhere to sack the cities furthest from your front that fucking run away to sack another city as soon as an army gets near isn't the fucking worst part of the game.
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>>492852342
>Amerimutt
wasn't it a pajeet?
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>>492852263
trvst the plan
>>492852326
nah, I just got that from his twitter
posted last month
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>>492852358
each of those vassalize the nearby norsca faction
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>>492852358
>>492852358
>I thought WiC was a horde faction?
Not anymore. Or, well, not exactly. They have some horde-like traits.
But yeah, you'll mostly be painting the map norscan - or daemon or skaven or whatever else you vassalise. Gifting them settlements (even the shitty outposts that make up all non-fortress cities) is a nice way to earn cash, too.
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>>492852726
still unsure how it works, so you can still occupy any settlement you want? What's the big incentive to gift it to a vassal instead of doing that? never played a horde faction or chaos before
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>>492851670
Those ones (and pic) are actually Chaos RAA-ROOers.
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>>492850227
All i can say.
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>>492852992
Oh so non dark fortress settlements you can occupy but it's t1 garbage so the only ones u actually want to occupy are the dark fortress ones? What about when u go down south into emp and there's no norscans to vassalize?
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>>492852181
Based Calypso reclaiming her mermaid birthright.
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>>492852358
>as usual
If having only small outposts like the Wood Elves is "usual" than yes.
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>>492853624
So end of campaign wic do u wanna raze most order settlements or setup outposts in all of them? Never played wood elves either
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>>492851120
To a fun campaign!
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Chaos was my longest campaign in wh2 at 300+ turns :3
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>>492852439
it was and he's trying to shift blame
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>>492852992
You have to build a big coallition of vassals (like 4 or 5) in the north then you go south with all of them.
There is still some Dark Fortress for you in the south and your Vassal can occupy any southlanders settlements even if you are not the one giving it to them.
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>>492853967
wh2 chaos was crazy
you are supposed to be the one trying to burn down the world but instead the order factions are the ones hunting you and your norscan vassals are unreliable as shit
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>>492853250
you get the norsca tribe assigned to each dark fortress as a vassal
some smaller settlements you will want to keep if they have resources since those give factionwide buffs
the rest you can give to your vassals
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>>492852023
There were a few beastcoomers in the past, now it's one third worlder spamming cuckshit.
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>absolutely busted when research is done
>huge bulk that translates to huge barrier
>flys
>can be further upgraded by kairos/LHs
>with perfect micro, can fight indefinitely
>with chevrons, becomes even nastier
HOW THE FUCK HAVE LESS THAN 10% OF PEOPLE RECRUITED THE LORD OF CHANGE UNIT?????
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>>492854705
>absolutely busted when research is done
this might be the reason
also playing kairos and fighting lizards for at least 50 turns is kind of cancer inducing
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>>492854705
Chaos factions (except for chorfs) are cringe as fuck
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>>492854883
Nurgle is dope as fuck tho.
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>>492854705
mage tier 5 unitssuck ass
only fun unit in tzeentch are changebringers
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>>492852594
They seem ready to move for the big city now (i opened it for them).
Not sure if they will colonize it :(
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>>492854154
Idk I liked the idea of unifying chaos first (even tho It's just norsca you have to stomp into submission) and then moving in to the mainland to just cause trouble in general. Each LL being an unbreakable beast on their own along with getting mega discounts on their theme army comp meant you can just go sew chaos and destruction wherever you want with however many armies you want. Like revenge porn for that time the AI annoyed you before by sacking and looting and being a general nuisance.
I did leave a stack way back in the chaos wates tho, just in case my main guys get ganked, so I was pretty much invincible too
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>>492853470
man(or whatever you are), you are boring like most basic bitch, no wonder you can't get laid
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>>492854705
the campaign is over before tier 5
also single entities are cringe
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>>492855780
RAA-ROO RAA-ROO!
they just razed it, no herdstone
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>click on luthor harkon
>"luthor harkon"
based
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Why doesn't 40k have space Liggers?

They brought the dwarves back, added she-dwarves and no grudges.
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The herd grows slowly but surely, it remains however very very weak and could be eliminated in a single turn of the Helves.
I asked them to go back to Mistnar island but it seem they want to invade Tralinia in nothern Yvresse.
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>>492858628
:))))))they're mounts for space elf farmers
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>click on alarielle
>*moaning sound*
huh?
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>>492860710
I don't get why she calls out nakai's name when spell casting
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Watching ring of powers made me wanna play a high elf campaign
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>>492846906
It's not that the AI is particularly good, it's that it uses completely different factions that aren't even allied or friendly to attack you from different fronts as if it was a single faction
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What a raidboss.
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>>492861162
I thought this general couldn't fall any lower but unironically watching Rings of Power makes me question that sentiment.
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>>492862057
It doesn't get any lower than liking warhammer.
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should I fight these guys? Can I vassalize them like the norscan tribes? If not isn't it in my best interest to allow em to spread chaos and not fight them?
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>>492852023
I like this one but they can't hype ip ungors,, I'm afraid. Gors, sure, but ungors are boring. They should also get on the rat wagon, need to write about Throts new elven fuck pets.
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>>492862229
Serious cope.
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>>492862369
vassalize him
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>>492799907
Great counter archers due to stalk and spread out formation. Combined with plague ofrust and they can melt everything. Hochlands sort of made them redundant unfortunately.
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>>492854705
Nobody plays Chaos factions
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Based Janitor breaking the beastbuck
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>>492854705
This is a tier 5 unit that requires the final upgrade of the Cultist building that takes quite a long wile to build on a race with no tech/lord trait +construction speed. Also not everyone plays Tzeentch, and there might be people still waiting for the Tzeentch overhaul or another start, so that 9% is actually a fairly good number. LoC is awesome, the best unit in the roster, but you don't really need him. Tzeentch roster is pretty great even without him
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>>492864947
He'll be be back in a couple hours after resetting his router, the constant misspellings give him away.
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imagine the THICC bushed CHUSSY
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>>492854705
Tier 5 units should be broken.
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>>492864947
Hypocricy, beastposts talking about beastmen impregnating elf women get deleted but squirefag talks about how squire impregnates his elf woman gets to stay up.
>>492840748
>>492841358
>>492841423
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>Hypocricy
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>>492865269
you wouldn't be able to handle it
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>>492866064
>Hypocricy
SAAAAR
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>>492866132
>b-but chaos comes from there...
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>>492862369
You can vassalise anything, just get it to its last settlement. Never allow anyone to hold a dark fortress though, no vassal is worth on losing out on that.

>>492866064
>hypocricy
SAAR YOU MUST ASK SORRY TO LEGEND
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>>492866291
>>492866496
You have no argument because I am correct in pointing it out
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3K bros which one do I use? Is extreme too much or?
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>>492866064
>trademark spelling mistakes
>thirdie sounding sentence structure
>seethes at white man x white woman post
>makes false comparison that smut spam is equivalent to making a offhand joke
Yep it's beastjeet.
Mrgl.
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>>492865269
>tfw no harem whore chussy to breed with until she cant bear children
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>>492867208
Extreme leads to some serious retardation in siege battles, in my experience.
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>>492867353
To Chorfs worship Slaanesh?

We need a coomer dwarf
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>>492867353
Is that AI?
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>>492867496
Shut the fuck up.
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Beastdoes love human men
this incenses the beastcuck like nothing else
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>>492867514
>1024x1024
looks like
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gonna try sun jian for my first campaign, I rly liked this guy in the show and starting in the southern half of the map while the north is pure chaos is cozy
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>>492868085
good luck
the south was a bit of a snooze fest early game last i recall
are you doing romance or records?
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who in the fuck is jian yong? Where is zhou zilong
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>>492868397
oh hes under gongsun zan... I swear I thought he was from the southlands originally since he has their iconic uniform in the show
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>>492867682
We also need stinky dwarves and extra smart dwarves
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also im gonna go romance of course, I want to do stuff like this in the game
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>>492867514
Yeah its sloppa, forgot which site it came from but there was a guy making pretty decent looking total warhammer stuff.
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CA confirmations:
Norsca is getting a rework
Vampires are getting a rework and Legendary Lord
Lizardmen are getting a rework
Empire is getting another DLC
Halflings will feature in a future DLC
The Monkey King is coming
Patch 6.0 will expand the Immortal Empires map
FLC lords are returning

Stay tuned for the upcoming "What's Next" video, which launches this month.
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>>492869127
>nothing about bretonnia
fucking thing sucks
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>>492869375
They did say "and more" so most likely will touch up Brets too. They haven't mentioned that they will give Dwarfs more stuff, yet they did.
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>>492840218
Most likely inspired by the RA3 Kirov airship.
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the fuck is their problem, somehow me banging up rats and gobbos makes karl seethe
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the UI is kinda confusing, I coulda swore this guy was in my army but hes an enemy, imo it should be a bit clearer which the enemy army is
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Chinese sure love their banners
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>>492870889
I love their banner and how the go HO HO HO HOOOOO when walking
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>>492870632
I want to get into 3 kingdoms but the UI looks so confusing, almost like a mobile game. Guess they had to make like that for the brainrotted chink gamers.
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>>492867208
play record mode with mods
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>>492872013
already started in romance, idk, I don't want characters to be just regular dudes, in the show zilong solos the whole cao army before leaving, those guys are stronger than WH lords
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>>492870632
you can turn off night/day cycle on the global map
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even in battle though it's kinda hard to tell at a glance who my units are vs the enemy lmao
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>>492872013
>>492872136
records mode is kinda boring
the generals bickering and dueling adds a lot
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nice ambush, dummy.
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>civilians mucking about the battle map
kino, they always feel a bit too dead in rome 2/pharaoh/wh
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>>492872754
they still bicker tho and there are mods that give them back some skills and units
>>492872609
change unit cards to alternative set, why you even use the shadow ones?
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>>492872914
true the alt ones better thanks
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>>492872890
they get annoying when your troops stop to attack them or they attack your guys.
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>>492801715
>what is sexually attractive to most humans has actually been incredibly universal and consistent for most of human history
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>>492873582
hot
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>>492873582
Putting aside the fact that some people do find fat chicks hot, those statues represent over-exaggerated features men still find attractive: breasts, hips, thighs.
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>>492873582
>random carving found in a mud hutt
meanwhile aphrodite
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there's only two building slots per settlement?
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whats the funnest way to take advantage of the new Deeps mechanic?
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>>492872890
3K and Attila having that feature is kinda cool I guess but I don't really care about it being missing in other games. No citizen is lazily walking around while there's a fucking siege, they're barricaded in their homes. Citizens walking around only made sense in the feature in Rome 1 where you could view your city without a battle going on.
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>>492874470
You get more as you upgrade the town
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>>492874621
>Rome 1 where you could view your city without a battle going on.
I miss that feature dearly
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>>492874637
i see thanks, how come replenishment is so slow btw, is it because the town is small or something?
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WHAT I THOUGHT THAT WAS A FUCKING TRADE AGREEMENT
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is Norsca the only faction that hasn't received anything every since TWW1 ?
>has imo a great campaign mechanic
>on paper a decent roster of unit but its very limited
>utter shit economy
>super slow progression to boot
The legendary heroes are pretty decent too but fuck me, your tier 1 and 2 units are awful.
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>>492874105
The most exaggerated and pronounced feature is the stomach, though.
Ancient greeks found women with unibrows, broad shoulders and narrow hips hot.
Japanese ideal of beauty involved completely white faces, black teeth and having eyebrows much higher than they would occur naturally.
Not to mention some real freaks, like Myanmar and wearing metal rings that make your neck longer, or chinese foot binding.
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>>492875484
mei ban fa
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>>492874348
>>492873582
in 10000 years someone is going to find a dobson inflation piece on a miracilously intact and think it's what we thought was hot
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>>492875843
that kinda stuff won't happen unless we go back to the stone age with nukes or something, record keeping is pretty much perfected now
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Worry not folk of Brettonia!
The loving legions of Slaanesh will be your shield!
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>>492876005
but we live in an area where pic related is a sex symbol for zoomers btw make of that what you will
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>>492875568
Yeah, it's exaggerated because not starving to death was highly prized back then. It's the same reason women are often a little plump in early modern European artwork. A woman having tons of kids and having some meat on her bones would have been basically unimaginable for most people back then. The point remains that in general breasts and birthing hips are pretty much prized in any culture.
>Ancient greeks found women with unibrows, broad shoulders and narrow hips hot.
Incorrect, based on Minoan artwork and statues we have from them, they valued white skin, large breasts and hips.
>Japanese ideal of beauty involved completely white faces, black teeth and having eyebrows much higher than they would occur naturally.
Only in one period was the eyebrow drawing and teeth darkening attractive. Otherwise white skin, large breasts and hips were prized, as much as any Japanese woman typically has those qualities anyways. I don't know what is up with Myanmar neck rings or foot binding but I know those cultures also prize breasts and hips.
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>>492875836
I won't suffer that shame, campaign is over

but I'm thinking of playing Liu bei instead, to start with the 3 bros, all legends
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>>492876232
We fight as slut companions!
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Why does heroes get a little more movement range when you detach them from an army? Is that intentional or bugged?
And why the fuck my army losing movement when a hero gains a mount? Again, cant tell if its intentional or not.
Wh3 movement ranges is so fucked on some parts of the map as well.
God i hate wh3...sometimes...
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>>492877235
Heroes effectively have force march movement
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>>492877235
the merging of different units at different stages of their movement ranges has always been a clusterfuck and its half the reason CA just glued all units to generals since R2
what really pisses me off with agent movement is that half the time it will show you the extent of their movement and then once they're done moving they go oopsie you actually had a little more movement still
I don't know exactly when they did it but CA fucked up the way the movement preview is calculated for agents somehow
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>>492876906
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>>492836096
Do you think he ever, you know
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>>492802121
>Nobody ever believes him because he starts all interactions by explaining that, in the spirit of good faith, he's compelled to reveal that he is a daemon of the Great Conspirator
He should talk like a smug redditor to drive the point home kek
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>send my merchants to the far corners of the earth to avoid hostile merchants and actually get some money
>10 turns later a french merchant ermerges from the fog and buys out all of my merchants regardless of mercantile skill
this is why I don't use merchants in med2
it's like trying to fight a jewish terminator
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lokhir sounds like a fag
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>>492841447
>He doesnt know about the hemipene variant that spawned only after contact with the Old World
Why do you think Asur princesses, Imperial noblewomen and roving ronin Asrai all gravitate towards going on "exploration tours" in Lustria?
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>>492843837
Whatever happened to this artist? First geabull now frostpersimmons it seems like all the good Warhammer slut artists have jumped ship
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>>492871447
Holy shit I recognize that, that's the Taichung metro that opened a few years ago
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lokhir sounds awesome
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>>492876906
Sqvire no! Resist the daemonic hussies!
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HE WAS A GOR
SHE WAS AN ELF
CAN I MAKE IT ANY MORE OBVIOUS
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>>492879729
lokhir of rorikstead?
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>>492880370
didnt the chick who sang that start dating niggers? it just werks
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post the fat ass miao VA or else
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Googled "Miao Ying Voice Actress" and this is the first result image
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here we go again!
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>>492880324
It's ok this is an alternate universe where daemons are good and set on helping humanity
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>>492881061
the netflix adaptation of warhammer
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Sh-she's fast!
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>>492881303
AAAAAIIIIIIEEE HAYAIII
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What are the essential High Elf mods?
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i want to eat her ass so much its not fair
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>>492881650
https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=2877495701
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Dwarves should use polearms. Phalanx type formations make perfect sense in an underground setting which is full of linear choke-points. Skaven and Greenskins use spears and halberds too.
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>>492880968
sex.
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>>492809404
good choice
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>>492882085
how do you turn around in a tunnel with a polearm?

spears were never popular for ship combat
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>>492882196
bad sloppa doesn't look like em
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>>492882247
raise the weapons pointing up.
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>>492882085
Spears are sissy weapons invented by elves because they were scared pussies, terrified of getting too close to the enemy.
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>>492882247
>he doesnt know about spears in ship combat
>>492882358
its tunnels though the roof is low
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>>492882358
>stabs roof
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>>492874105
>>492875568
>>492876417
bellies are underrated
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Do you guys think Empire and Bretonnia need buffs? Not the factions but the AI. My last 5 campaigns were all Naggaroth/Lustria/Southlands factions and every time by the time I reached the Old World they'd be completely wiped out. On my latest IE campaign as Noctilus I beelined for the Reikland out of curiosity to see Karl Franz had been exterminated by beastmemes of all people
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>>492881650
https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=2854735959&searchtext=longer
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>>492874348
fat bitch
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>>492838127
My least favorite is Daemons of Chaos
A Danielfu that is an amalgamation of all 4 god gifts turned into one sexy demon waifu.
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benchod
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>>492876417
>large breasts and hips were prized, as much as any Japanese woman typically has those qualities anyways
Did you phrase that wrong? East asian women are known for having small breasts. There's a famous saying from Guangdong in China “Men with large chests become Prime Minister, women with large chests are shrew mothers”. Breast binding (to make them look even smaller) was even more popular in china than foot binding.
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>>492882620
fuck that's hot, skinny bitches simply can't compete
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>beastmen toilets
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>>492884565
Botticelli's Venus also was far from having large breasts, although she was not completely flat.
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>confed a level 30 ungrim ironfist
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>>492883821
Is there a coomer mod for Daniel?
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>>492885337
>Is there a coomer mod for...
Yes.
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>>492882247
spring loaded or even pneumatic telescoping spears. Get the engineers guild on the horn
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>>492885479
>>492882085

before we hear more of your military advice. have you ever been in the military and/or are you a historian of medieval warfare?
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>>492884567
This is a modern statue, an older one of Yang Guifei would be even skinnier and flatter.
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>>492885805
idk but her whole thing was that she was thicc
Yang is often compared and contrasted with Empress Zhao Feiyan, who is known for being a slender person. This, in turn, led to the four-character idiom huanfei yanshou (traditional Chinese: 環肥燕瘦; simplified Chinese: 环肥燕瘦; pinyin: huánféi yànshòu; lit. 'plump Huan', 'slender Yan'), describing the physical range of the types of beauties between Zhao and Yang.

Modern-day description of Yang's physical size differs. She has been variously described as "rotund",[17] "well rounded",[18] "full-bodied",[19] "portly",[20] and "obese".[21] However, some consider the description of Yang as an obese woman to be either a misinterpretation of ancient Chinese texts,[22] or a misapplication of modern standards on body size.[19]
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its over
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>>492882247
>how do you turn around in a tunnel with a polearm?
Build a polearm with blades on both ends, fight like a jedi (almost).
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>>492885706
I am a highly experienced armchair general of all periods of warfare. I don't agree with polearms in a tunnel that's stupid but there's nothing wrong with meme spears that work on dwarven engineering magic
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>>492885916
I see, I was only guessing, but I suppose it makes sense. She was not very liked back when she was alive after all, so it makes sense that they'd describe her being against the ideal of beauty. I remember that she supposedly also had horrible BO.
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>>492886184
thats fucking retarded. go to age of smegma for steampunk reddit dwarves
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>>492886491
nigger there's significantly less advanced technology in a telescoping spear than a fucking gyrocopter or thunderbarge
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>>492880968
>>492882186
Honest question but is there a term for this kind of facial structure or aesthetic? I know she's a chink but there has to be something more specific than that
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>is there a term for this kind of facial structure or aesthetic?
built for Big Sigmarite Vassalization.
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>>492886734
theres less tech in a monocle and tophat too. its a dumb idea and the aesthetics of it suck dick
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not enjoying the game as much anymore despite it having been improved a shit ton since launch. i find myself skipping more and more battles and when i do fight the battles i don't enjoy them as much as i used to. i still get a kick out of getting the perfect flanking flamethrower volley into a tarpit of rats and such. what is happening to me bros. this is my favorite game of all time. or at least... it was.
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>>492888401
It's normal to go through cycles of excitement and disinterest.
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>>492888401
My recommendation: play other TWs for a while. Did it for me.
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>>492888401
We were promised 4 DLC's by the end of 2023.
It is now the last quarter of 2024 and we have only had 3 since the promise was made, you're just bored because we're in limbo, it has been just over 4 months since Thrones and we still don't have a reveal trailer / reveal blog / release date for the next DLC, you're just burnt out.
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>>492888617
i haven't played almost at all in 2024. the dwarf deep rework got me back in. the deeps as a mechanic are fun as hell and the new difficulty levels made the game more engaging. but it's ultimately just the same thing. winning a pitched battle doesn't mean anything because the AI has 10+ more stacks on the way. the new difficulty mode has definitely improved the stacks the enemy has been sending. but you're still just dealing with stack after stack.

i would love if they leaned back towards HOMM campaign map like they started to with realms of chaos and wh2 ruins. i have been dreaming of non-settlement locations that you can enter into and fight over, quasi dungeons, quasi challenge battles. think of the strongholds in soulstorm or special locations in dark crusade.
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>>492789220
How autismo are you, /twg/?
When I play Vampire Coast, once I get an admiral's ship to Tier 5, I feel compelled to tear everything down and rebuild it like picrel. I don't feel comfortable otherwise.
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>>492885254
Why hasnt CA just programmed lords with a preset actual good skill build?
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>spend an entire fucking battle in melee try to kill shitty grey seers with taurox
>don't even get the kill before the battle is over
god I hate this shit
stop fucking around and cave their skulls in you stinky brass idiot
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what does this do?
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best wh faction for chill gameplay without being backstabbed when all my armies chase rats on the other side of the world?
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>>492891606
Build, fight dead shits, upgrade, get groodge.
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>>492891230
Skaven are really good at shuffling their lord/mage away from your hero killers in my experience. That said
Taurox is a tank. A gaggle of tanks
You just give him a general direction, refresh his abilities and that's it, he does the thing. I mentiined a thread ago how even AR will rule in your favour if you stack him up on gear and yeallow levels while solo.
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>>492891606
When you build it, 2 turns later it spawns 2-3 endgame crisis tier vampcount armies under the lahmian civ to attack it (even if you delete the building)
It does this like 4 times over 10 turns as you build the upgrade
Fortify up the settlement before you build it
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>>492891110
i used double skill points mod too
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>>492891638
Changeling is the ultimate chill campaign
Also anyone in a safe corner, like Oxylotl, Zhatan, Grombrindal etc
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>>492891606
Summons a bunch of vamp shitstacks every turn until you build the next level of it
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>>492891606
every other turn or so it spawns vampire armies that make their way towards the settlement, you start at war with them but they're not going to engage your armies or other settlements
you can even block the eastern entrance to the dark lands and they start walking north to go all the way around and die from attrition :)
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>>492891638
Any horde faction
Don't like a shitshow? Pack up and fuck off
Beastmen, vampirates, Lokhir if you decide to go coast raiding, Malakai, you know the drill
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>>492891606
>>492891828
>>492891860
fun fact, if the lahmian sisterhood is already wiped out (and also maybe requiring some one else holding the settlement other than you when you take it) the armies will spawn in the region, not at war with you, and do nothing for the rest of the game
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>>492892249
some one holding it other than them when you take it I meant
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>>492885254
https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=2909055000&searchtext=ai+skill+selection+tweaks
try this
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>>492889167
I like the way you're thinking. Just a tad bit more PVE battles and locations.

Ive also often dreamed of a Dark Omen style campaign where characters and unique regiments play a more central role.
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>>492889167
My dream game would be something like a cross between total war and a HoMM campaign - particularly the HoMM 5 campaign I played recently, thinking the entire time "god imagine how awesome this would be with total war mechanics - direct, focused levels where you get from one end to the next, exploring a new location every level, different objectives each time, picking up new units by finding them on the map as a reward for fighting unique battles. Alternating between levels where you just explore in a linear fashion and levels where you conquer multiple cities and develop them. An actual narrative with characters doing stuff and interacting in cutscenes - teaming up at the end to defeat evil and shit.

Aaahhh... HoMM 5... Raelag...
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The Sisters of Twilight!
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>>492893612
Literally three or four frames away from the jumpcut to them getting ratted in mating press kek
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>>492891638
BEASTMEN
RAAROOOOO
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>>492893115
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>enemy army sallies forth and, killing them all, get 19k from sacking their city
>moldavian emissaries spam messages and crashes my game before my turn
it never gets any better
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>complete quest
>restore harkon's mind
>he still talks like a schizo
so is he doing it just to fuck with people now
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>>492893817
rude to call me a rat
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>taurox has 95 fucking movement points
oh christ this is low
and there's no movement increasing hero for beastmemes
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>>492800290
the campaign progresses smoothly
the attack in the arden has been beaten back, the maginot line is in the process of being recaptured, and the german capital has been captured as well
however the number of armies may not be sufficient to clear out the rest of the imperial territory with the income from our meagre holdings in fair brettonia...
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>>492895479
meanwhile in the south, after having 5 invasion fleets defeated, the algerians appear to be concentrating their forces for a final push against a well experienced garrison army...
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Never forget what THEY stole from (You). This grudge remains unsettled.
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You think Gorbad has any chance of dethroning Grom as the most interactive and fun greenskin campaign?
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>>492880370
I made that thread on /v/ you uninspired faggot
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>>492880370
I made that thread on /tg/ you uninspired faggot
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>>492896346
yes because goblins are gay and I already don't like grom
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>>492896180
you are the worst person in this general right now
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>>492893612
>>492893817
>>492894784
>ratfags
xD
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sartosa battle result screen
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beastman posters are truly unwell...
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>>492896606
>goblins are gay
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>>492896346
I don't think Grom is fun because I don't want a fat fucking Goblin to be my faction leader.
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>>492897003
>t.orcwhogotmoggedbyGROM
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>>492896831
I do "it" with Grace, and, heh, by "it", I mean belly rubs and neck kisses.
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>>492897158
>Skarsnik doesn't exist
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AAAAAAA MY BLOOD RUNS COLD
*Bum bum bum*
I TAKE THE GOLD AND IM NOT OLD
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>IM NOT OLD
Luthor you're literally a decaying corpse from hundreds of years ago reborn through dark magiks. Repent or I will purify you in the face.
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That was Arnessa singing not Luthor sorry
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Never forget what THEY stole from (You). This grudge ALSO remains unsettled.
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Old World Rolling
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it appears my superiority has led to some controversy
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>>492897284
Skarsnik doesn't weigh as much as an orc.
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>>492897634
And I thought the Coastfags were bad enough yet here we have this garbage.
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>Oda matchlock ashigaru on a wall
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>>492897841
>Coastfags
do those even exist
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>>492892975
>>492893115
the closest thing we have to current homm is warhammer 3 sadly. if we could just get more of the homm exploration and semi focused narrative, basically a realms of chaos but not shitty. If we could have a map that was divorced a bit from the empire building but rather focused on your warband not unlike a horde, but with, as i noted above, significantly more things to do than simply sack and raze settlements over and over. WH2 really leaned into this with the sea encounters, rogue armies and ruin maps. We have sadly seemed to lost whoever was behind that direction because if that system could be expanded to land encounters and full on dungeons. The funny thing is we already have the dungeons in realms of chaos; just allow us to enter those bitches on the IE map. They sucked in roc because we were forced to go there. But in IE they could be treated as a dungeon delve with great rewards at the end.

None of these are pipe dreams because most of the mechanics are already there. I would bet that most people who main WH3 do so for the spectacle and quasi rpg aspects and less for the "civilization building" since the latter has been castrated so much.
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Ariel could literally just toss Alarielle around and have her way with her with ease...
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>>492897976
>right click dragging one matchlock unit to take up as much wall space as possible so as many men can be firing at once
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Malagor could literally just toss Ariel around and have his way with her with ease...
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>beastBUCKjobbers
malagay got killed off by a dawi army lmao
not even killed off by a named character, just random dawiBVLLS who chopped him to pieces
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gonna go for a two front war
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anyone have any idea when TW games will have a steam sale?
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>>492899262
Summer has ended and with it the Summer Sale
Maybe Halloween
Maybe Thanksgiving
Maybe Winter Holidays-Christmas-New Years
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Good evening, I hate Cathayans and Kislevites
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sure wish you could set a fire that spreads in settlements in this game like in rome 1/attila/3k

you can burn down whole cities in 3K, right?
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Talmbout /vtwg/?
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>The Dead Rise Again!
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Member?
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>>492900487
>3 kingdoms: 2
wouldn't it make sense to cover another party of chinese history instead
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>>492900978
they could cover spring and autumn period into warring states into qin unification into chu-han contention into han dynasty establishment but that might be too ambitious
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>>492900978
There's no other part of Chinese history that would sell even close to halfway as well.
>>492901373
They could do that but gooks/nips/viets etc wouldn't give a shit the same way they do about the ROTK period.
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>>492901426
I'm pretty sure 3K isn't even that huge in china, of course they know all about it and like it, but they consider their golden age somewhere in the medieval period either song or ming dynasty idk, 3K is just a small part of chinese mil history
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>>492901589
>I'm pretty sure 3K isn't even that huge in china
>im pretty sure one of the most well known and popular pieces of media in the sinosphere with a bazillion adaptations isnt that huge in china
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>>492901791
the most popular story is journey to the west they absolutely love that shit and you can see with how well wukong is doing, dont think u can rly turn that into a TW game tho, idk shit about journey to the west
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>>492901589
ROTK is huge in China and its neighbors, that's why it sells so well and why TW3K has a ton of mods made by gooks.
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>>492901373
>warring states into qin unification into chu-han contention
3K already covered the ancient era, medieval china would be cooler, maybe finally drop genghis TW and have the yuan dynasty in there?
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>>492901895
more than one thing can be popular anon
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>>492901589
>I'm pretty sure 3K isn't even that huge in china
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>>492902372
Yeah I never said 3K isn't popular, but there's plenty of other chinese historical periods that an asian audience would eat up
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I don't give a shit about China.
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>>492901589
Idk what golden age has to do with media popularity, we consider the Roman golden age to have started with Augustus but we have wayyyyy more media depicting Caesar's takeover because it makes for better drama and a better setting for bideogems where you march little soldiers around
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>>492789873
That's a man.
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>>492902895
if thats a man im gay
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>>492901589
>I'm pretty sure 3K isn't even that huge in china
are you actually retarded or merely pretending?
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>>492903495
He's white, of course he is retarded.
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>ITT the soft power projection ability of the People's Republic of China grows
I don't care about 3chinkdoms, I don't care about the new monkey game
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>>492902895
>calling random females men
tranny behaviour
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Looks like this might finally be the day Aranessa slays a dread saurian
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>>492903495
i get the feeling its one of those stories that filtered into the west much more than the 100 other ones that are big among chinese but no one knows about them or cares in the west

source? intuition
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holy based sartosa battle result screen incoming
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>>492903796
>1260 rough sweaty unwashed men
>A half-mermaid, a vampiress, and some elf girls
Imagine
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holy another sartosa battle result screen incoming
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>>492884565
I didn't phrase it wrong, Asian women aren't known for having large breasts. I dunno what chinks thought in some random time period, they're fucking weird anyways, I just know for a fact that the Japanese, Vietnamese, etc have always valued large breasts.
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>>492903623
I kind of care about Grand Cathay cause they're slightly less dangerous to fight than the Dark Elves if you're a Chaos Dwarf, and that's cool.
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HERE IT COMES BOYS
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>>492900487
>Star wars
I beseech the gods, any of them, even the dark ones, to make this not happen
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ANOTHER AUTISTIC SARTOSA BATTLE RESULTS SCREEN MY LORD!
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>>492904458
>OGRES OGRES OGRES OGRES OGRES OGRES OGRES
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AIIIIEEEEE IM CHUDDING IM CHUDDING AAAAA
>uses skaven nuke
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>>492904458
WHERE IS IT
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>>492904256
I want it to happen, a Clone Wars TW would be fun. Can't wait for the Anakin one man doomstack.
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>>492892249
I took that settlement over from chorfs who wiped out the lahmians and they did spawn properly at war with me. I was actually getting a separate war declaration from each stack that spawned for some reason, so in later waves it was 4 war declarations per turn coming from the same faction.
Do note, I was experiencing a bug (at least I think it's a bug), where in later turns AI declaring war on me does not bring up the diplomacy screen, so I was just getting notifications in the turn summary, or whatever that's called.
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Cuck dropped like a rock
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>>492896346
I sure hope Orcs finally get a fun and fighty Orc leader to lead their faction in fightiness.
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I wager I have enough time to perform a bowel movement and this guy still won't be dead
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slingers on highground feelsgood
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>>492903796
Pls continue to feed Aran ur stacks at sea lizards. The Queen's throbbing futa cock has an insatiable hunger for cloaca
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>>492901589
It was bigger in China than any other TW, but I'm not sure how its popularity should be rated. Sure, there were many more chinkoids playing it than real people did, but then again, there's much more chinkoids in the world in general.
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Another Aranessa Sartosan Pirate victory screen! It's been a year! Play a different faction!
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Total War: Total Peace.
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wtf why are there actual ingame screens you have lost your edge
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>>492905243
im shit at the game but proud of this one blessed by highground
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>>492896180
You are the best poster in this general right now
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Rate my Luthor Harkon naval empire LARP
Planning to get a concession port in Cathay next
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>>492904458
I miss him..
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>>492905728
nice unit cards tho
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>>492905728
is it as /his/ as DEI?
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>>492906303
In terms of unit names, yeah, they're all in the proper language. I'm glad it filters the shitters.
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>>492906303
its a middle ground between DEI and vanilla with the population and supply mechanics being there but way less punishing, and it doesn't do stuff like move back the start date and make the romans start as spearmanii, really fun mod tho, DEI was too boring for me, para bellum is just right
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>>492906834
>proper language
>70% of the factions have greek names, even the celts in iberia
its pure autism
there's less such stuff than DEI though, for one it doesn't fuck with the settlement names as hard
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>>492906834
>>492906845
I'm all in for flavor, the more the better, just not autistic gameplay mechanics
I've spent years playing EB1, but bounced away from EB2 because of all annoyances it has
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>>492907004
Yes, a lot of barbarian tribes that don't have known written languages have unit names in Greek or Latin you retard. Rome, Carthage, Parthia, etc all have their language represented properly.
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>>492907006
if DEI was too autistic for you I def recommend para bellum, its pretty much vanilla+, the combat speed is slightly lower than vanilla but still not excruciatingly slow like DEI, DEI's combat was too slow for me even with the +40% weapon dmg submod

>>492907175
thats not the proper language though
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>>492907243
It's the proper language for the people who documented those tribes. As in, the only reason we know some of them exist at all.
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>>492907351
If they really wanted to properly sperg it they could have gave some kinda proto iranian names for the eastern nomads etc, otherwise, just leave it in english instead of larping
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vgh
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>>492893817
wheres the post jumpcut at
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>>492907524
Once again, nothing to go off of. We have a few personal names for Scythians, that's it. All the documentation on them is Greek. Glad to see it's filtering people just like I said.
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unit names are one, but are they properly voiced too?
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>>492907628
for me, it's Dehbed cav
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>>492907691
don't think its filtering people desu I disliked DEI for other reasons, namely the slow asf combat and the mechanics being too hindering to me while the AI straight up ignored them and shat out stacks nonstop, the names are no big deal, its just one of those things, changing things for the same of the mod creator's taste for aesthetics while it makes barely any difference
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>>492904082
>In Edo period Japan there is very little emphasis on breasts in the erotic Shunga art, as men were less interested in the breasts.
This is from Wikipedia, but they're quoting some online article on a western-oriented website about Japan that doesn't exist anymore (written by someone named Jessica Kozuka). Other articles are mostly "hurp durp, japanese didn't like big breasts because they always had small breasts, which is why they have so many huge breasts in anime now", including a North Dakota State University publication, literally about big tits in anime. I'm having even more trouble finding anything about pre-colonial Vietnam. Care to source me up?
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>>492907961
And then I go and look for Shunga art and the first one I see has large breasts... nice sources, Wikipedia.
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>click on these guys
>they say "spear infantry ready"
immersion ruined
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>>492908257
they're just using spears with really big spearheads and very short shafts
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>>492907851
Sadly, no, but only because audio modding is pretty much nonexistent for Warscape. Warhammer 3 has a solution for audio modding and it's still a pain in the butt.
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>>492804486
like some kind of naval battle...
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>>492908257
every unit is a spear unit
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>>492907961
Vietnam has Ba Trieu who famously had massive knockers.
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>>492905197
almost there...
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>>492908597
Didn't the Dawnless Days mod manage to do that in attila recently? I remember saw it few days ago.
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>>492908781
On the other hand, the Hai Ba Trung did not. But then again, both are historical characters so they are more likely to be interpreted as how they actually looked, rather than what made the dudes fighting under them hard.
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siege attrition is too strong now, the AI never has a reason to actually attack which makes all the siege buildings useless because you always have to sally out to actually life the siege
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>>492909115
They're probably using the same audio mixer WH3 is using I'd guess. I know they're using the same custom map tool that TOW guys are using for their Middle Earth map. I wish they'd release the tool to the public, I'm sick of everything being gated behind gay discords.
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budini blob has to go soon
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>>492893612
Source?
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>>492909594
I'm pretty surprised that parthia didn't expand well, instead it's the fucking pontus.
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>>492908784
it's finally ogre...
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>>492910372
yeah they've been at war for ages
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>>492909471
This is like the complete opposite of what they should be doing did something change regarding this recently? Ai should be launching more sieges without sitting on their assholes. The ai having no sense of urgency is a bad thing
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>>492908603
What game is this from?
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Any cheaters here? Another hotfix will be dropping in about 13 hours so you guys better finish your campaigns :)
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>>492911659
The last hotfix broke nothing that I'm aware of.
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I only play with flavorful mods and ones that add lore-friendly units.
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o_O
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I only play with overpowered mods and ones that add lore-breaking units.
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The sima family pretty much usurps cao cao's achievements don't they? All the factions in 290 are Sima (I have not reached that far in the show/wikipedia entry yet)

poor ahman
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>beastmemes can trade
>Greenskins cant
???
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>>492911893
well, it broke the skill undo button on heroes
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>>492912804
Zased
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>>492905454
Total Peace: Administration and Bureaucracy
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>>492913273
That's because CA is incompetent at their jobs, having mods or not having mods doesn't change them somehow breaking the skill undo button despite none of the fixes having to do with it.
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>>492913489
Is it even possible to play a faction and just never have someone declare on you in any game?
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>>492913090
yeah they just overtake wei in coup
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>>492907628
were late classical shock cavalry onions men? no shield and needing two hands to hold a long spear, meanwhile later northern Eurochads had heavy lance AND shield and just obliterated infantrycucks
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>>492913090
>Usurps
Not really. The real problem is Cao Pi's health being shit which transferred to his heis having shit health. Cao Pi is continuously shown to conceal his illness. Should've chosen the healthiest son not the oldest and sickly but in this case that's Cao Pi being a cunt. Kind of same for Liu Bei should've chosen the smartest son and not the retard and if they were all dumb as shit give it to someone qualified.
Nepotism pure death
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>>492913695
thats what happens when your only intelligent son dies to a snake I suppose
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>>492913759
shields are for retards
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>>492913759
>advancements in technology make later cavalry better than older cavalry
whoa...you don't say...i guess knights are cucks because a tank would kill them in less than a second
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>>492909471
>>492911357
I've almost never seen the AI try and wait to build ladders. The one or two times they did, they garrison could auto resolve them immediately, and I use a harder auto resolve mod
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>>492913601
In WH2 if you started Malus campaign and took over the starting islands, you could pretty much sit there forever without anyone bothering to go to war with you. Of course this is impossible as Malus because of the demon but you were about as isolated as any faction in TW
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>>492913759
stirrups and actual saddles make quite a difference
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>>492914253
when do they normally attack? two turns after starting the siege?
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>>492913823
wait Liu Bei had more sons? I thought the retard was his only option and that was the reason he was constantly trying to groom him instead of dunking him again
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>>492914521
mandatory
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>>492909507
True, they should just upload it to TWC bundled with their autism instead of being hidden in discord.
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>>492900978
While I agree, I would still like them to take a crack at the game. Especially after Pharaoh had a lot of good ideas Three Kingdom could actually use.

>>492902091
Genghis Khan Total War would be awesome.
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>>492912718
>Brides from anutha' hold arrives!
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THE MANDATE OF HEAVEN IS LOSSSSSSSST
if there's one thing this series marketing does well its DLC trailers
https://youtu.be/woEGXcvNe98
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>Attack enemy settlement
>Fail
>Have to retry twice
>Finally win
>Press end battle out of relief that it’s over
>Realize I didn’t chase down the shattered enemy units and probably left all that XP on the table

Fucking kill me
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>>492914496
no clue. I waited 1 turn on one then just auto resolved it because I dealt with only other threat in the area.
Usually the AI believes it has the strength to win without towers and immediately assaults, or it tries to go for an easier target in my experience. Sometimes the AI "miscalculates" and makes mistakes (more often on lower difficulties) which is why I think they sometimes attack garrisons that can auto resolve them on a sally.
The AI thinking it has enough strength to win without towers happens way too often for it to be miscalculations, I think the bar for that is just too low, because of how bad the siege AI is in sending in units piecemeal.
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>>492915329
and you go ahead and pick one of the shittiest trailers for the chink game instead of any of the in engine trailers that are actually good (Cao Cao, Dong Zhuo, etc)
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>>492910257
damn i looked it up and found out there is not rat jumpcut version but instead got a RAA ROO series of pics
oh well
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>>492916102
Hot
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>>492916043
I like those too but the turbans one is kino tho
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>>492900487
Lord Almighty but I pray that 4&5 do not happen.
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>>492916337
there are people in this world that do not deserve to voice any opinions and you are one of them.
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First time facing Nurgle as the Chorfs (4 vs 4 armies, a narrow defeat for me)
>why do the dozens of regenerating SEM's just plow straight through my lines?
>why don't I have any missile units (they're all engaged in melee combat all the time)?
>how can Nurgle instantly whittle down the health of my lords and monstrous cavalry before I even have a chance to see what the hell is going on?
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>>492915338
Wait a minute, do you need to chase down shattered units if you’re attacking a settlement? Don’t they get destroyed when you occupy?
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I guess the answer is that Nurgle is a hard counter to the Chorfs
>anti-infantry rush army
>plague drones are stronger than most lords and can target artillery with impunity
>SEM's out the ass (which the Chorfs can't handle very well except with guns but oops 10 units of bile trolls just appeared in my backline)
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>>492911498
it's from the 2023 movie about the naval Battle of Noryang, which was the last battle of the Imjin War
i just saw the movie yesterday and started trying to make webms but i'm pretty dumb and the filesize is too large
https://files.catbox.moe/pb20iz.webm
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>>492916940
>>492916557
Wait until u face the khan
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>>492916557
>Why can Nurgle monsters smash my lines
>how can Nurgle melt my melee lords
Nurgle units have a passive aura that weakens nearby melee units

Also as to the “No missiles” thing; burgle is a slow melee army. How do you make sure they don’t get taken out at range then? Tons of armor, tons of damage, and high unit mass. They just slam into you and it’s awful. I hate fighting them as empire. They make my pretty checkerboards look like shit
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>>492916557
>>492916940
Skill issue. Get good.
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>>492916557
More guns more artillery were you carrying a bunch of hobgob econ shitters? Also as chorfs there's a 99% possibility you could just befriend them instead
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>>492916940
>Nurgle counters Chorfs
>Meanwhile the entire Chorfs roster has fire attacks which counter regen and healing
>Nurgle has no counter to Chorf siege engines
>Taurus dunk on Drones
sasuga, anon.
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>>492917127
The most insulting part of the battle was that I saw the AI cycle-charge! Cycle charge! In a big battle all I do is shout at the screen, wave my hands, and tell the nearest unit of archers with 10% of their health remaining to go charge that damn SEM! There's no room for strategy or gameplay in battles bigger than 2 vs 2, it's all just a random mess.
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Do you lose reliability if you gift someone a settlement, then declare war on them and take it back?
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desu Archaon isn't as fun as I thought the vassals are retarded, I'll play chorfs for my first chaos run instead inspired by this anon and the fact that I paid like 15$ for that damn dlc
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Are you now ready to admit that Nurgle is a strong race?
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>>492916102
on the other hand i did find this so it wasnt a total waste
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>>492917607
This was drawn by an Elfcoomer, not a ratfag.
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>>492917607
>>492917673
How about both of you kill yourself.
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>>492917863
>t. elfcoomer mad that the ratfriends have his number
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All elves are made for BBC (Big bretonian cock)
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>>492918009
How about you hang yourself by a gun with a string and timer attached to the trigger so you can kill yourself twice.
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REMINDER
beastbucks and ratfags deserve DEATH!
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Rats or not, Kerillian deserves to be left behind and tormented for her very high levels of elf retardation.
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>turn valiant defeat into a decisive victory
auto resolve REALLY doesn't favor the green boys does it?
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>>492919250
It can't cause you can get 40 green boys with waaghs which still need to lose as ai vs ai sometimes
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Is Drazhoath a good chorf lord for playing em first time?
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>>492919536
If you want constant ball busting. He's got one of the most antichill positions in the map
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>>492919536
Fuck no
Start with astragoth
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>>492919536
he is the most powerful with the best faction effects but he is also surrounded by enemies so there's that
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Orion > Sisters of Twilight > Durthu > Drycha
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>>492919536
Wheelchair Santa Claus is the most forgiving. The Chaos Dearfs campaign difficulty is determined by how quickly you can kill Grimgor.
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>>492920191
Orion>>>>>>>>Literally everyone
Free armies? Giga movement? Wild hunt? Lmao
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How do I use Mod Configuration Tool to disable OvN Lost World's gay new feature where minor settlements pop up all over random places on the map? I mean when can I select to alter mods? Main menu?
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uhhhh
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recommand me a fun campaign
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do any units in 3K have the iconic southlands' white capes and manes? The starting mercs certainly don't
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is it viable to stack miner ammunition and use them as bomb throwers? they get up to 5+ on belegar

>>492920950
this is a dawi resource building btw. i didnt know they had any contact with dawi-zharr at all. i thought they wouldnt even acknowledged their existence. i dont even think any of their lords get any sort of damage buff against them unless they are filed under generic "chaos"
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>>492921578
>5+ ammunition
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This is Chadtek country. Runts out!
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>coaltek mentioned
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How will Balthasar Gelt deal with the Monkey King?
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>play Skarsnik
>help Skrag btfo Thorgrimm
>help Tretch btfo Drazoath
>Greasus is personally becoming overtyrant of the northern part of the darklands
>Azhag personally slaughtered Ungrim
AHEM
TOTAL
DAWI
DEATH
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>>492924241
>>492924241
>>492924241
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>>492923851
by having his start position change again



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