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>Version 2.5 "Flying Aureus Shot to Lupine Rue" Special Program
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I hope Tingyun is break support because Ruan Mei has like no toughness damage at all, it's actually laughable.
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>paglus
Cringe
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(You) owe Feixiao sex.
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Looks like we're not the best hoyo game again hsr
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Feixiao Guide
>Set
4pc Wind Valorous >= 4pc Grand Duke, 4pc Eagle is only for 0 cycle.
>Planar
Duran > Izumo = Salsotto
>Cone
Signature > Dr Ratio Sig > Swordplay S5 = Hertacone
Signature is ~15% better than Swordplay, if you rolled Ratio's cone you can skip her sig for optimization purposes.
>Relic Stats
Chest: CRIT Rate / CRIT Dmg
Boots: Spd / ATK%
Orb: Wind% / ATK%
Rope: ATK%
>Stat Goals
133.4 SPD+, >80% CRIT Rate, >140% CRIT Damage
ATK Boots only for teams without Topaz.
Prioritise high Crit Rate over CRIT DMG since her BiS team and her relics already give her a lot of CRIT Damage.
>Team building, pick 1 from each role.
Harmony: Robin > Bronya > Asta/Hanya
SubDPS: Topaz > Hunt 7th = Moze (NT: Topaz is 5~20% above Hunt 7th and Moze, varies based on enemy weakness.)
Sustain: Aventurine > Lingsha > Gallagher (Multiplication)
>How important is Robin?
A lot, Feixiao constant FUAs abuse Robin mechanic of added DMG during concerto, Feixiao performance drops by ~30% when not using Robin as the harmony unit.
>How important is Topaz?
Not as much as Robin, you have Hunt 7th/Moze as your replacement options, Topaz advantage over those two will depend per enemy since its down to the elemental weakness.
You need at least E2 Moze for Feixiao, Moze E4/E6 buff his personal damage but not Feixiao's.
>How important is Aventurine?
Only slightly, you can use Lingsha/Gallagher as your sustains, the difference between Aventurine and the next option is a ~5% damage loss.
>What about Bronya/Robin teams
They also work but E1S1 Bronya is recommended since it makes SP management easier, that particular teamp composition is mostly for 0 cycle.
>E1 vs S1
As already stated before, if you have Ratio's cone you can skip her signature cone and instead get her E1, otherwise S1 = E1.
>E2 Relevancy
Good eidolon, boost her stack generation and makes her ult more often, but far from a "HARD REQUIREMENT", roll E2 out of love, not meta.
>E1 Robin vs E1/S1 Feixiao
E1 Robin.

Feedback is welcomed.
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flopin
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We all love Miss Sparkle here
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Constance soon
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Bros...
why doesn't Jingliu do damage anymore? it was a little too close for comfort
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My girlfriend is so cute
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>>492883080
She's ancient. You need to replace your attackers at least once a year.
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>garbage can event
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>>492882910
Would you rather have Pagelle?
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You would be wise not to skip this time
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Uh oh Hertaschizo melty
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>>492883048
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>>492883080
what's serval doing in there
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>>492883080
>brickle
>>>>>serval
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Jadebros... the khazar milkers allegations are onto us...
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HSRkeks you wanna explain this one?
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>>492883172
B-But my psychotic waifu...
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>>492883080
run march 8th
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>designs are great (better than genshin even)
>hired A-AAA JP VAs
>has their own trailer even
...
>dies 2 seconds into the quest
>will not be playable
what went so wrong?
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Feels good to be able to bust out e6 Blade again. Though my e2 Firefly team still beats this faster. One day Blade will get a proper support
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Lingsha
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>>492883347
Good job bladebro
Wind weakness is back in the menu
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how much important is Topaz for FuA teams, I already have Himeko so should I bother with her
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nihiligods?
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>>492883305
We don't like coomslop here
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>>492883080
Maybe run an actual team. I get she's worse than DPS now like yunli but at least run her with supports she wants like bronya e4 pela
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>>492883339
Rewrites
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Firefly rerun doko
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>>492883080
The dice gimmick kinda fucks with her skill. Acheron can just recharge it after hitting 4 dices instead of the 3 JL hits.
With pela and bronya she still hits like a truck against ice weak enemies that arent aventurine
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>>492883339
I really like them from their design alones, why do they keep blueballing me with them?
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>>492883634
Cleared of accusations
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>we're getting 5 star herta, 5 star tingyun, before the 4 star screwllum
think about it
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>>492883339
>will not be playable
No one said that
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>>492882960
Thanks for using this song.
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>>492883339
TRUST THE PLAN
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>>492883787
When are we getting 5* Qingque?
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>>492883080
Literally just replace Serval
How did she sneak in there?
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>>492883339
Tiffany poached HSR's budget in order to fund Natlan Worms
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Is Duran an upgrade on every FUA character if I'm still using Salsotto on most of them?
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Which relic caverns have both sets being desirable?
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>>492883305
We got Hotapai Star Rail though
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Important

https://poal.me/qpdrxv
https://poal.me/qpdrxv
https://poal.me/qpdrxv
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>>492883931
Break/FUA relic cave
Nihility/break relic cave
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>>492883339
Who voiced them?
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>>492883080
You're not using a great team for her, but as somebody with e6 Jingliu yeah she has definitely fallen off. I still love her though because her eyes are so pretty.
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>>492883787
>Women sell more than men in a gacha game
What's there to think about Mr. Pom Pom?
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>>492882960
Borisin hunt in packs Arisen
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>>492883871
fat
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>star rail is getting these three XPY before 4 star screwllum
think about it
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I love chinky doragons
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stop bullying serval at once
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i love Lingsha so much
her know-it-all personality and the way she sounds in the EN dub reminds me of one of my first crush
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>>492884174
>doragons
snexes
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>>492884180
Shut up Gepard you're a brick too
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Do we still post clears? I got a rare 36* this time, usually I miss 1-2 stars
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>uninstalled right after rolling yunli because holy fuck I'm not sticking aroun for chinkship 2
>got fomo after the last livestream
>installed to pick up the jade codes and login bonuses
>game feels like the biggest chore of all time
>uninstall again
I was planning on coming back after the chinkship patch, but I think this is the end of the road for me, bros. Keep the barefoot hebes coming, though, and please export them to the better games (genshin and zzz), thanks.
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>>492884273
>e4 fu
I kneel…
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>>492884180
old hag should finally retire and have kids, the Landau family ain't gonna continue itself
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hang in there blade
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>acheron cleared in 7 cycles
Man, she's fucking trash wtf
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>>492884174
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>>492884279
Bwo just get another ssd they're like 50 bucks and you won't have to uninstall shit all the time
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>>492884375
just be lucky
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>>492884395
>she didnt pull jq
Sis...
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>>492884180
Too busty
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>>492884279
>autoing for 5 minutes a day is a chore
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>>492884395
>E0, didn't roll the fox to u brick her
Lmao.
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I still think Elio should've been a girl.
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>>492884395
T0 btw
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>>492883787
It's more offensive that we're getting the 5* fox office lady we've never actually met before 5* Scampo despite Sporkle's quest 8 months ago foreshadowing a return to Belobog. At this rate it'll be like 4.X before we get there and everyone will have forgotten about it.
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>>492884180
no one is bullying her cause she's more forgotten than jingliu
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The year is 2025, Screwllum turned out to be a 4* FUA healer. This has caused an unprecedented outrage among the HSR community world wide. Da Wei and the rest of the Hoyo executives went into hiding to avoid assassination attempts. Now they are about to release Diamond, the 7th limited 5* FUA DPS. His unique mechanic is that he can only be placed into teams that include a E2S1 Topaz and he refuses to use his ultimate until his E3 is unlocked. Until then he will make offensive remarks about the player's financial situation instead. The new BIS FUA team costs 5k USD worth of jades yet still is outperformed by a super break team with 2 E0 limited 5*s.
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>>492884395
That's honestly skill isue
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>>492883339
my preservation dot unit...
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>>492883080
thats mostly due to aventurine dice mechanic bricking her schizo buff dropping her damage by alot. other older 5*s like jing yuan work just fine if they got the right team support
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>>492884395
mine took 5 with the same team, are you retarded?
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>>492884713
to give da wei credit at least he unbricked FUA for everyone with M7 hunt
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>>492883787
dainsleif was announced to be playable 4 years ago, think about it
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>>492884174
Lingsha bean when?
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>jiaoqiu
fucking brick would never pull for that useless T1 homo fox faggot npc
>constance with the exact 1:1 kit and numbers jiaoqiu currently has
E2S1 MY FUCKING SUCCUBUS DEMON QUEEN I KNEEL, THE UNBRICKER OF FRAUDCHERON AND THE SAVIOR OF THE DOTHAGS
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>>492884395
>Pela
>SW
you didn't pull even for BS, you have no excuse
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>>492884658
I mean, the logic is understandable, they just leave potential plot hooks and they follow up on them if necessary, ez. Boot with the Oswaldo thing is a more recent example.
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>>492883650
>>492883723
>>492884040
>>492884769
how much is e0 jingloo supposed to be doing per schizo e vs aventurine? i can't tell what's an actual, good, solid hit and what's a shitty one
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All auto
When will this game become hard again?
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>>492884395
What the fuck is wrong with you
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Please wish me luck, Acheronbros
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I'm waiting for Feixiao to clear moc
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>>492885060
doot
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>>492885060
All EHR
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>>492884991
simply speedrun the content when it goes live before they nerf it
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>>492885060
3 in crit rate.
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>>492884991
PELAGEYA SERGEYEVNA USED RRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH
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You guys seriously need to stop being mentally ill. There's no point in pondering about what could have been.
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>>492885143
>short hair
men wiped
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>the most soulless teamcomps you will ever see
>wtf when does this game get hard
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>>492883339
i bet its a problem with eng VA. its always the eng VAs
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>>492885090
>single target dps
blocks your path
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>>492885060
if it's for a e2 acheron then kys
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My Herta is gonna be cracked
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>>492885143
>>492885183
>>492885189
I don't like this game
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>>492884991
Rather unimpressive results for these eidolons desu, auto considered.
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>>492885274
It's almost like the first side is wind weak instead....
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>>492883339
I never cared for the Annihilation Gang.
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>SW on Acheron team for easy debuffs and SP with basic attack
>Auto
>SW keeps using skill
I wish we could just customize what the ai prioritize for each character.
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>>492885274
pretty sure feixiao would hit a dice twice with her fua
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>ruanmei
>acheron
>firefly
>when will this game get hard
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Do Robin and Feixiao banner release together?
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>>492885274
I never see that phase when I play with cyborg cowboy
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Cute and happy family.
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We love Robin here
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>>492885385
It's almost like the first half is filler while the second half eats twice as many cycles
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>>492885340
skill issue.
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>>492885060
I will give you the power of E6 Acheron for this roll
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>>492884180
does serval use the hag model or maid model?
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>>492885340
It's over...
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No one cares about your E6 Acheron btw
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>E0 Jingpoo takes 7 cycles to clear side 2 (ice weakness on every enemy)
>E2 Firefly takes 3 cycles, without Ruan Mei, + a Fire Resistant elite in the first wave
Horizontaltards fucking lied
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WHEN ARE THEY GONNA RERUN ACHERON?? HMMM???
I NEED HER NOW!!
IF I DON'T GET HER I THINK I'M HAHAH GONNA GO HAHA CRAAAZYYY!!!
I'M GONNA GO ALL COOCOO BANANAAAASS HAHHAHAHEHEHHEHHE
I'M GONNA GOOO MUUUUCHHHO LOOCOOOOOOO WOOOOO HAHHAHAHHAHHAHAHHA WEEE HEHEHEHEEEEEEEEE I'M GOIN NUTS!! BONKERS!! LOOONIEEE!!! I'M FREAKIN MAAAAAAAD WA HAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA HEHEHEH AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
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>>492883483
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>>492885317
I knew it
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>>492884462
I have 3TBs of storage. I uninstalled because I'm committing to not playing until the game is fun, otherwise I'm going to fall for fomo more easily.
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>>492885246
go ahead post a soulful clear
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>>492885848
damn
herta dance to celebrate
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>>492885848
based
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>>492885742
Probably 2.6
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>>492885848
juicy
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CRANEyi
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>>492885848
Sigonia's better
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>>492885848
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>>492885340
I weep for the departed...
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>Complains about Firefly/Acheron
Where are the Danhomo/Jinpoo/Fraudyuan/Yunli MoCs?????????????????!!!!!!!!!!
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>>492885848
low rolled on all of those lol
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>>492885848
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>>492885817
Please...
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>buy express passes
>buy battle passes
>still at the mercy of failed coinflips
When do I get to vertically invest for once
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Glühwürmchenliebe!
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Any news on that second Herta?
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Stop samefagging, Hertaschizo
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>E2 Firefly
>retarded post
every time
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>>492885848
Your herta is going to love that
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>now type KYS loser
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Also the MoC turbulence gives 48 DMG% which is another freebie to the JingLOO that does absolutely nothing for Firefly
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>>492886126
why is yunli included
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>>492886258
yea
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My sustains are E5 Gallagher/Bailu/E1 Lynx, would it be worth leveling up Lynx purely to use on an E0 Clara team or should I just stick to Bailu while Gal works on my brick effect team
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I can't cope with the fact that Mr Legwork is dead and will never come back.
I miss you, old man.
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>>492883080
It was a lot of fun to use Blade again. I would have finished sooner but Aventurine managed to freeze Boothill once.
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I just realised Firefly is fucking dogshit without hat TB
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>>492886440
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>>492886559
Lynx on paper is great because of cleanse but I'm biased towards Bailu since I have had her since launch and still use her today because I only have Fu as my other sustain. Takes some resets sometimes but otherwise very serviceable.
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>>492886559
Yeah thats fine. Lynx goes well with clara due to the increase chance to hit.
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>>492886639
Yup
Ruan Mei is great to have, hmc is mandatory
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>>492886514
This MoC is her shill
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>>492883913
Not on JY. He wants the new set coming out. Probably not on Blade or Jade either.
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>Acheron team with JQ, SW, and Aven against Aven
>Aven has 100% EffRes, JQ and Acheron have aoe, SW getting hit doesn't matter
>No way I'll lose the dice game
>JQ and Acheron both actually lost the dice game after using skill
Never thought I'd see that.
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>>492886316
My posts are consistently the best posts in this thread though
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>>492886559
assuming you are really new. then yea.
Imo, just build up gallagher and lynx.
Bailu, as much as i hate to say it, is fuxking trash. natasha is eveb better as a healer. bailus gimmick is pretty much reviving. her healing is close to rng dogshit tier. plus you investment will be a lot more safe with Gallagher and lynx as you will likely still use them 1 year or two from now.
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I pulled E0S1 Fofo but I'm still finding Gallagher more useful especially in this MoC and at this point I've just given him her cone... I know this is said as a meme a lot but is there any way to refund a pull character given that we're still on her patch? Maybe I can say I wasn't aware they recasted her english voice? I think I might pull Lingsha so that way I have 2 Gallagher
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Thank you pink fox and Sparkle for breathing new life into Acheron
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>>492884279
how is it a chore? I set it on auto as I get ready in the morning.
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>>492887141
You are welcome
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>>492887119
gallagherpag falseflagging as a fofobro btw
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>>492887110
Why are your sustains backwards?
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i am pulling Blackswan over JQ for acheron and you cant stop me
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I asked you fags if Jingliu is still worth getting when she reran and everyone said yes. I'm now stuck with an unusable brick. Fuck this general
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>>492887119
fofobeast seeing the gallalight btw
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>>492882960
Why no attack boots without Topaz?
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>>492887119
summons will make Fofo great again
trust the plan
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>>492887119
(You) don't deserve her.
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>>492887378
She is worth it. But maybe not for gameplay reasons
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Relics for Lynx?
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>>492887378
Did you get her to e1s1? If no, don't even try to speak up
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>>492887110
>fofo in superbreak
bro
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>>492887378
I said that so everyone would forget about Aventurine.
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>>492887423
Not that anon, but Topaz's marked targets take extra FUA damage. Maybe that is why?
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>>492887334
based. I'm doing the same. fuck homo fox
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>>492887378
she cute
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not my problem
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>>492887110
>fofo superbreak
b-b-based.
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>>492887378
she is but you need to grab jiaochud
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>>492887275
i always run fu with acheron for trend and the extra cr
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>Hoolay became a buff gigganigga because she was in denial about wanting to be a cute girl
Well, I'm happy for her that she took the chance to transition as soon she broke out of prison
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>>492887378
you can make it work dammit just try harder but its just this boss that sucks ass for her. she raped last MOC 12
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>>492887752
Right, I forgot trend was real because I still don't have it as a day 1 player
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>>492882960
>Feedback is welcomed.
I actually hate that you're using this song. I had zero interest in Feixiao but the song is actually making me want to get her. But from what I know about her, you guide looks better than the other one that recommended eagle as her best option.
>if you rolled Ratio's cone
Do you know how big the difference with Sig is?
>Orb: Wind% / ATK%
Why? Normally isn't dmg% better in most cases, plus she gets free atk% which should favor the dmg% orb even more, right?
>ATK Boots only for teams without Topaz.
I don't get this. Her Fua count resets when she gets a turn, plus her skill triggers her fua. So wouldn't you at least want her decently fast?
>Harmony: Robin > Bronya > Asta/Hanya
Why no Sparkle? Also, why no RM but do recommend Asta? Is Asta/Hanya higher speed buff that much better?
>Topaz advantage over those two will depend per enemy since its down to the elemental weakness.
You kinda already said that in the team building section, so could remove this or the one in teambuilding to get more characters to explain other things
>the difference between Aventurine and the next option is a ~5% damage loss.
Bit autism, but you put Topaz comparison in team building, while the rest in the separate points. Would be better to have it uniform. Also, you stated March=Moze but said Lingsha > Gallagher. So how big is the difference between those two? And is using > worth it if the difference is that small? Could use >= instead
>E1 vs S1
Feels like using a lot of words to say the same thing, can reduce to something like "S1 = E1, but can use Ratio cone as S1 replacement". When you read the point E1 vs S1, you want the actual answer in front and not at the end
>E2 Relevancy
Would be nice to get some numbers on this.
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>>492887378
Same with Sparkle. I rolled for her because literally everyone said that she's a must-have character. I have never cleared endgame with her.
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>>492887496
shut the fuck up whale
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My Jingliu 0 cycled the first half of this moc 9.
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>>492887936
cute son
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>>492887169
you have to babysit the game for Slop Universe and literally everything other than just dumping stamina on relics or materials.
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>>492887378
I use mine for farming. Acheron is too slow because she needs stacks and FF is too slow because she needs a bunch of ults up and takes a bit to defeat the minions since the other members can't deal damage.
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>>492882937
>Love and Deepspace that high
>top 100 is mostly just Waifu and otome games
Why do companies even bother to appeal to shippers?
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you should roll on jingliu's next rerun
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>retards actually listening to advice from /hsrg/
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>>492887693
Only acherontroons are pathetic enough to get a homo for their waifu
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>>492885552
this smells indonesian made
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>"""""jingliu""""fags have to make up a new personality for her because they don't actually like her character at all
Sad!
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>>492888093
I will never roll for Banjo
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>delete sparkle in the main quest line and nothing will change
big sad
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>>492888263
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>>492887923
fei has 60% dmg up self buff
36% from valorous
25% from duran

dmg up is heavily diluted already
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I used to rule the world
Seas would rise when I gave the word
Now in the morning, I sleep alone
Sweep the streets I used to own

I used to roll the dice
Feel the fear in my enemy's eyes
Listen as the crowd would sing
"Now the old king is dead, long live the king"

One minute, I held the key
Next, the walls were closed on me
And I discovered that my castles stand
Upon pillars of salt and pillars of sand

I hear Jerusalem bells a-ringin'
Roman cavalry choirs are singin'
Be my mirror, my sword and shield
My missionaries in a foreign field

For some reason, I can't explain
Once you'd gone, there was never
Never an honest word
And that was when I ruled the world
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>>492888406
>>492888220
STOP FIGHTING
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So... who's Gallagher supposed to be? Why was he in Penacony? I skipped all the dialogue
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Good to see Jingliu again. Please continue posting her
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>>492888108
real
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>>492888497
I love my useless wife
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>>492888478
He's the literal personification of Penacony
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>>492886126
yunli clear for (You)
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THE VERDICT IT'S OUT
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>>492887378
Just wait for a new support/relic set to save her
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>>492888419
>fei has 60% dmg up self buff
Oh you're right, missed that buff from that absolute wall of text that is her talent. Only saw the atk% trace Makes sense then
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we've reached a point where even ice weakness enemies don't make jingliu any more useful
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>>492888627
Still rolling Lingsha
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>>492888478
>the murder controlling the not-Lost smoke monster is actually... le funny dog
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>>492888627
waiting for the real dot support for my kafka
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How am I supposed to use my Jingliu when Firefly stole the only good f2p destruction LC from her?
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>>492887625
You shouldn't post 2.5 spoilers like that...
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Quantumliu skin doko?
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Husband!!!
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>>492888497
literally the same posting from last time we had aventurine in MOC. she is bad at this boss but NO ONE anything when she crushed last moc 12
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i should've never rolled on robin
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>>492887936
I rolled Sparkle and now I can't even play the game anymore. I'm having too much fun manhandling her tiny body. I just walk around the house with her looking for things to bend her over and fuck her on.
I M A G I N E
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so why is jingloo bad vs sigga again
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>>492888953
Do you think Sparkle can feel it when you fuck the plushie
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>>492888805
based
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When the leaks said 1.X characters were getting meta relevance they were referring to the brand new dissociation mechanic with a 3.X character that buffs ice damage and hp drain and ignores defense
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why do you all fight like toddlers
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>refresh the buff at 1 turn remaining
>keep ult charges ready as often as possible
>team still eats damage AND she still dies
What am I missing here? Are her stats shit or something? 6.9k HP, 1.4k DEF, 147 SPD
She's at 7/7/7 and using Trend of the Universal Market because Acheron.
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>>492888976
she often wastes her schizo stacks vs dice and then the free ult isn't useful since ulting outside of schizo mode is a waste
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>>492888690
>buffs modifier under-utilized by her kit (DMG Vuln)
>buffs not burned up by her constant action advancing
>also not wasted while she's outside shizomode, they'll still be there
She just needs a better set to give her DEF ignore now
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>>492888976
half your team are do nothing retards that cant do the dice mechanic and she herself gets her stacks fucked up from the dice.
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Jingliu’s current situation is like when an athlete joins a shitty team at the twilight of their career
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>no robin
>only fua is himeko herta jade m7
how fucked am i?
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>>492889034
I hope so. And I hope she talks and makes noises through the plushie while I fuck it
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>>492889164
>6.9HP
kinda low, if you're using ERR rope try switching to HP rope if you can't get more HP% in subs
>7/7/7
traces are bricked, level her talent > skill > ultimate in that order
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>>492887119
I unironically used FoFo with Acheron against Aventurine lmao, her team wide cleanse is just too good.I don't think Gallagher is the end all be all, he's very based though. Like, the only shit sustains are the other 4 stars, Luochud and the standard 5*.
Yes Fu Xuan is still very good to this day.
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Homos are still trying to shill the nasty faggot fox kek.
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>>492889359
fucking the plushie and just watching her squirm and orgasm from the other side of the room
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I have fucking a Vonwacq physical orb and atk rope both with double crit stats and literally no usable pieces from a DPS planar for Clara, will I regret leveling those up for her until I get some usable Duran pieces
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I don't have many characters since I'm new, should I wait to form 2 teams until I finish story stuff? A lot of the side content keeps asking me for 2 teams and I don't really have any characters to fill out two teams right now.
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>>492889034
Thats why her smile. Same with herta and her dolls
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>>492889783
do you think Jingliu is popular enough to get a skin?
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You guys told me they reworked Aventurine’s dice mechanics but it’s the same cancerous time-wasting shit.
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I've been catching up on the Chink character quests from last year. Already did
>Luochud
>Bailu
>Yukong
>Kafka
Which should I do next? Yanqing, DHIL or Fu Xuan? I know that the High-Cloud Quintet one has to be done last to make sense.
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Will I regret rolling Feixiao?
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New relic set that's better than Quantum for Jingliu when?
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Stand proud, Acheron
You are strong
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>9 hours left
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>>492889637
build up herta.
also you can try building up guinafen, asta, hanya, serval, m7 (all good sub dps, support early in the game, just for your filler?, don't invest too much tho or else you'll just be wasting resources)
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Jiaochud is good but he's only Ruan Mei good in that his use is just being a stat stick and his unique character mechanic only has otherwise niche applications. Therefore like Ruan Mei he is mogged by characters like Robin, Sparkle and HMC and be powercrept in time. If you know, you know.
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>>492882771
Just got these for feixiao. Don't mind if I do!
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>>492889420
>Fu Xuan is still very good to this day
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>>492890013
for what?
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>>492889924
they were probably talking about AS aventurine for next AS rotation which has different mechanics
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Interesting how some characters that were considered op like DHIL and Jingliu became worse than those that were considered bricks like Sushang and Himeko. I guess having unique kits is better than just having seemingly higher numbers. Now I wish the game somehow also made Welt good.
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>>492889386
I feel like won't be able to generate enough ults without the ERR rope but I'll give it a try
The entire hall was a breeze until Aventurine fucked my shit up
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>>492889924
That’s for the next AS, retardGOD.
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>>492890061
she is a tank
she tanks everything just fine
wut is the problem?
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>>492890048
m7 is a good choice because she keeps the levels when you swap to hunt
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>>492889420
Luocha is also good. Gallagher doesn't do shit if you can't break. He's really good with RM IF he can break, but his sustaining power is really low otherwise and bound on debuffs that obviously go away on wave change.

Not like you'd use Luocha much today outside of specific DU teams.
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>>492890061
She is?? You're a retard if you think otherwise. Or you never bothered to farm proper relics. Fu xuan is the only sustain I use (my other team is sustainless e2 firefly break team) and I 3 star everything
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>>492890069
Animated short
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>>492890069
until it's my birthday
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>>492890154
fu xuan is also not meant to sustain super long fights, so if you're dying it also means you're probably taking a really long time against aventurine. that is a hard fight for her to sustain due to all the AoE so i would say just make sure she's as thicc as possible and also make sure your DPS can support her by clearing faster
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This is what Jingliu used to be about....
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>>492890061
The only thing that has ever killed my Fu Xuan ever was swarm disaster final boss nuke attack when swarm disaster first came out
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>>492889965
Just my personal opinion but if you have to question if you’ll regret getting a character then it means you don’t actually like them that much
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>>492890308
Jingliu is the unit I don't feel bad about getting powercrept. she was strong for far too long
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nooo you can't roll for Lingsha she's only a little better than this other really meta unit
it would cost jade that you could have spent on....
uuuuuh this huntbrick
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>>492890432
Yeah like two months
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>>492890048
>also you can try building up guinafen, asta, hanya, serval, m7 (all good sub dps, support early in the game, just for your filler?, don't invest too much tho or else you'll just be wasting resources)
Oh I forgot to mention I can only use foxes or hebes/lolis.
I will invest in Herta though, I still need to clear SU stuff to get her eidolons.
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>>492890432
Firefly has been strong for longer than Jingliu ever was.
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>>492890430
You think i'm some weirdo who gets attached to videogame characters? I just roll whoever's good.
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>>492890459
I have Fofo & Fu and i'm still rolling Lingsha.
I shall always roll for who I like
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>>492890432
As opposed to Acheron still being the best DPS in the game and receiving JQ to further cement that?
The only upside is that it's not even an Acheron shilling cycle but she still dominates.
Ice was cancer because she's literally the only good and consistent Cryo DPS (was) but now we got god tiers in every single element, including Ratio, free unit.
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>>492890308
People always underestimated her weakpoints. I immediately called her a pretty big Dan2 downgrade, due to the downtime and how BAD it is to have 0 DPS for a while in this game.

Swarm was a good fight to show that, with it spawning ads and charging. Jingliu taking a nap there means you just got wiped. People still played her because it was the best we had, in female dps at least. Kafka had no real support yet, neither had QQ and whatnot.

2.1 onwards largely did one thing: Streamline kits to be a lot less cumbersome. Jingliu nowadays would have the same idea as Firefly's duration of the schizo mode, so not based on ATK but on AV (and the ult restoring some AV if used during schizo mode). I don't need to tell you how much that'd change. (and how fucking BAD Firefly would be with Jingliu's concept of "you have 2 enhanced attacks")
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>>492890205
not doing any damage
not applying any debuff
not having attacks or fua
shit tier utility/buff
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>>492890459
>Don't roll because Gallagher exists
>Roll because it frees up Gallagher for the other side
Again people always look at it the wrong way. I literally rolled the best support for every team archetype.
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>>492890124
Ripe smelling image
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>>492884757
I NEED it.
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no tail?
no roll
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>>492890308
I feel like Jingliu is the perfect example of how to make a character generate the most profit meta-wise
>Absurdly strong when it comes out
>Reduced to less than average within 4 months or so

Then again, if Hoyo abuses this method and does it with every DPS, everyone is gonna catch on and realize they should only horizontally invest on the flavor of the month, so to compensate for it they make units that are really strong when they come out, and stay that way for a long while

So basically, just hope your wanted character ends up being an Acheron and not a Jingliu, anon
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>play it on auto
>35/36 stars
good enough
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>>492884991

Probably when you put down the credit card.
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>>492890904
firefly already has numerous weakpoints as is, she relies way too much on fire weakness to cleave and the ult downtime is still fucking dogshit unless you’re running qpq gallagher
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>>492890242
>fu xuan is really good! btw she's the only sustain i use haha
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>>492890668
What the fuck are you even talking about
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>>492891141
Feixiao will be another Jingliu
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>>492891386
stop being mean to fufriends
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The TOAT
(The tankiest of all time)
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>>492890904
Firefly IS bad.
If the game actually punished harder and didn't leave 10 cycles, people would notice it harder. But since her floor is so high, people don't give a shit about her low ceiling compared to stuff like Acheron or Boothill.
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>>492890242
whos your 4th in firefly team?
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>>492890848
>lightning weak boss with "pls spam attacks" buff
>it's not even an Acheron shilling cycle
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I'm never again bringing gepard to moc12
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Tingyunanon has yet to shit himself today
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>>492891315
QPQ Gallagher is pretty useless for Firefly because her ult is a whooping 240 energy so those 16 energy procs don't help. She'll still need to use skill 2 times to get her ult back. Better to just use Multiplication on Gallagher there.
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finally it updated. i'm glad i'm verticalinvestmentGOD.
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>>492891386
Silence, sigger
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>>492891141
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Stop laughing
https://www.bilibili.tv/en/video/4790540291539979
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Was this Jingliu quest in the game in 1.0? I saw Jingliu for the first time when her model and animations got leaked lol
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>>492891626
>Fufu and Nihility hags
based
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>>492891558
The buff is neutral and Kafka side is electro resistant.
Don't even compare to Fraudfly shilling who had Past Present for ages because it's the only boss that makes her look good (still loses to Acheron on it).
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>>492891593
>>492891315
It absolutely matters, you only need 96 energy on Firefly for her to insta charge her ult with a Lv10 skill.
I used QPQ Gallagher to reduce Firefly downtime during the last PF so she could be in super mode longer, the same can be done in MoC, for longer fights like Hoolay having that extra energy is useful if you're not doing 0 cycle bullshit.
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>>492891575
Gepard is a brick if he can't spam his skill. E2 Acheron with Sparkle fixes him
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>>492891626
Honestly I'm tempted to invest into Swan E1 instead of Robin because DoT feels so bad right now without Eidolons. Sure you ran DoTcheron but pure DoT feels like pain with the old Kafka Swan FoFo RM.
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>>492891593
they can help but moc requires too much setup or rng for this shit to work
very strong in pf where you get more kill/hit energy so hitting the energy breakpoint for 1 turn ult is pretty reliable
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>>492891464
I wouldn't be so sure bro, as long as FuA characters exist, she'll still be at least more relevant than Jingliu is nowadays
And it's not like her multipliers suck and she's reliant on the enemy being weak to her element, far from it
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>>492892056
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>>492891898
Doesn't he just need 1 skill for a 3 turn ult without needing to be hit?
It's been a while I could be remembering wrong

The biggest problem he has is your team going too fast and running his big dick shields out before the enemy even attacks you
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>>492891386
I mean, if you only need 1 sustain and you 3 star everything, then that's a pretty fucking good sustain. Retard
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>>492891802
>buff is neutral
no it isn't, some teams have an obvious advantage, mainly fua slop and acheron
>Kafka side is electro resistant
so just don't run her there?.. are acheronfags retarded?
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>>492891978
Fuck, I want to roll for DoThags but I'll only be able to get them at E0S0 because they're running together.
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>>492892107
lmao ok
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>>492891802
>For ages
>Only been present in TWO MoCs since Firefly debut, and one of them debutted before her own banner release
Yeah ok bro
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>>492891528
My FF team is e2FF, e6HMC, e1RM, e2 Bronya
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>>492892107
kys faggot.
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fox(no tail) trailer when
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>>492892214
Fraudfly has Pyro weak on both sides.
The buff doesn't do nearly as much as you think for Acheron.
Like you people talk about Acheron shilling but if it really were it'd be like Firefly and both sides weak like she got on top of the blessing. Look at the fucking AS too.
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>>492892186
you "need" 0 limited sustains to 3 star everything
and fubrick is the worst limited sustain tied with luochud
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I think those characters who have consistent advance forward are those who are secretly broken, they just may require right supports to shine. 100% advance on Gallagher's ult is why he's in such high demand outside even break now. And Sushang also became really strong because of her constant advance forwards in her kit with Robin and March now. But not Jigliu because her normal mode does no damage and that advance forward when entering schizo mode just compensates for that.
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>>492892518
Fu is so much better than loucha it's not even funny. Kys
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>>492892393
The average IQ of doomposters on full display, what a treat
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>>492892518
strongest*
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Nah I'd

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I wou
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>>492892624
Cope fubricker, don’t worry. The sigga will probably rerun soon, so you can fix your account.
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>>492892573
It's almost as if getting turns in a turn based game is OP. Why do you think every 0 cycled does DDD Eagle Vonwacq troonery or almost every run having Robin?
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>>492892683
Anon died of a stroke may he rest in peace
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>>492892683
gojobro? are you ok?
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Acheronchads so are we skipping the foxfag or what?
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>>492892441
>Fraudfly has Pyro weak on both sides.
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>100% crit rate ideal
jesus christ, this is gonna suck..
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>>492891593
you only need to proc it 3-4 times for her to 1 turn ult

if you’re on rm’s s1 with hmc, it’s 3 times
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>>492892693
Worm
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>>492892943
I think he's implying she can implant it anywhere but he might just be too retarded to word it correctly
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I skipped adventurine to roll Fu Xuan on her rerun
My only other limited sustain is Luocha

I regret my choices every day
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>>492892209
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>Blade/Dan IL + Sparkle
>March + Ratio
>Firefly
>Acheron
I'm losing my mind, which team for MoC 12 because i'm having a hard time clearing it in time
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I hate the Aventurine fight
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>>492893054
Yeah I would also regret rolling Luocha
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>>492892943
Had. Not this rotation. The last few.
>>492893050
Not what I meant because implant is still off element so you do less damage. Retard.
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>leaks said some abundances units are to be expected in 3.x
>Also said ZERO preservation units
Why are devs so scared of shields? We have ONE four star preservation unit and currently she's better off as a Hunt unit, meanwhile we have three four star healers, what's the deal here?
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>>492893112
SHE HATES IT
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came to sparkle's feet again...
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>>492891785
So you're telling me you idiots knew about Jingliu since 1.1 and I only learned about her in 1.3 when she was on the beta?
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>>492893229
Again?
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finally got the sig
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>>492893193
Well you use present tense you dumb nigger how am I supposed to know you meant the past ones when we were talking about this new one
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>>492892943
Cope, fireflopper. Your brick will age horribly once she stops getting fire weak shilling constantly, while e2s1 ack with s1 JQ will be good until EOS.
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>>492893197
Because they made Aventurine and you can't sell a better version of him.
He already makes Gepard look like a 2* with how much better he is. Everything about his kit and his cone is 100% better.
Fu Xuan has also been dominant until recently but she's still very valuable.
If anything, shielders need to get fucked with mechanics like corrosion to do damage through them.
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>>492892978
You need 85% display CR such that his talent pushes that to 100%, if you farm for Diver set that's 81% display.
Any value above 75% and below 85% is fine but you might need to reset once or twice every now and then if you fluke a crit.
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>>492893367
Get more crit damage. You should have around 230% with her sig.
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My boy LuoCHAD carried my ass when there were no sustains in the game
He's resting well now, and thus I'll be anticipating his Destruction alt to finally arrive, someday
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>>492883305
It's true and truly a shame. A big reason I started playing some turn based gacha cell phone game was because I had seen genshin pr0n and expected more from this franchise. What a gigantic let down I mean that really is the problem with hsr and the one thing it loses to every time.
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>>492893552
Luochuddie would never betray us for the evil destruction nigger named Nanook
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>>492891593
you need 96 energy to 1t ult

+5 for ulting
+10x3 for killing 3 enemies
+16x3 for 3 qpq procs

that’s 83 energy. you’re missing 13 more, which can either be 1 more qpq proc, 1 more kill + 1 rm s1, getting hit once etc
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>>492893552
eternal sleep is not the end...
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>>492893367
been quite lucky lately
>>492893517
I'm not touching that bullshit speed mine... I barely got 161, all my luck went from artis to rolls
>>492893484
thats for yunli, not ratio
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>>492890478
We had like 4 months straight of ice weakness shilling for her and that was back when MoC ran more than just once a month lol
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>>492893054
Aventurine is more meta favored, but not better at keeping you alive if you actually struggle with Fu. Fu is also auto friendly, Aventurine is not. At all.

Most sustain issues come from bad builds (he suffers from that as well) or just not good enough offense.
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>>492893652
Oh wtf
I misread that completely
I'm retarded
I read ceir ratio as dr ratio...
Sorry
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Can March get pregnant?
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>>492893112
Use Yunli for him she's by far the best counter to aventurine. She gets two free ults with the dice gimmick
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>>492893610
Considering he's using the powers of Abundance when he's *against* the Abundance, I wouldn't be surprised if he does the same using Nanook's powers
then again if the leaks are true, he might have Propagation powers instead
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>>492888627
These purely meta focused recommendations are the most soulless thing you could come up with.
I have more respect for people who go for a character because of a personal reason like liking their hair color or their name or something like that.
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>>492893804
March is the only girl who can easily deliver triplets
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>>492893475
how is fu xuan valuable when she's outright bad with robin, useless for brick effect and cope as shit with ACKeron?
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>>492893698
>Fu is also auto friendly, Aventurine is not. At all.
Tell me you don't have Sigga without telling me you don't have Sigga.
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>>492894000
She's the best trend user so she's not cope with Acheron especially for those who refuse to get Jiaoqiu. Crit rate is also valuable with relics you'll pick, more so than crit damage Aventurine gives, a stat given by all Harmonies you'd use with Acheron. Not every team is with Robin either.
Her issue is never being best in slot anymore. But she's usually a very good second option.
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>>492888627
>Feixiao has an extremely restrictive team comp like Firefly
What are the chinks actually smoking? I've legit never seen a Firefly team that doesn't have HMC/RM/Gallahger(or Lingsha)
Whereas Feixiao has almost every FuA character plus buffers like Bronya and Robin as her options
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>>492888627
>Feixiao has extremely restrictive comp like Firefly
That's bullshit. Firefly has literally single comp of HMC, RM, Gallagher right now with only Gallagher being somewhat replacable. Meanwhile Feixiao can be used in any combination of Topaz, Robin, March, Moze, Bronya, Sparkle and for sustains you can also use multiple options like Aventurine, Gallagher or FoFo.
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Why is Welt so fucking based?
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>>492894296
Pantsu...
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>>492893646
jingliu WILL return
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>>492893698
how is aventurine not auto-friendly, all he needs to do is to spam basics
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>>492882771
first time i envy you fuckers
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>>492892943
>kafka and dog in the same side
YJK
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>>492894485
elaborate
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>>492894397
>>492894370
tomboyGODS...
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>>492894397
>bronya, sparkle
lol.
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>>492893112
firefly on kafka side (img weak so hmc can actually help massively with the toughness bar)

yunli on aventurine side (win dice game = easy double ult)

the weaknesses only tell half the story
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>tfw I'm skipping all of 2.5 for Rappa
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>>492894439
DoT is so weak now...
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>>492894370
She's strapped to Robin which is unchanging, the other two slots are somewhat flexible but her performance starts to drop the more cope options you use.
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>>492893367
Congratulations sparkle bwi.
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>>492888627
I'M GOING TO BRICK MY ACCOUNT BY GOING FOR E2S1 KAFKA INSTEAD OF ROBIN.
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Is E0 Acheron still holding up or do you want vertical investment on her now?
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If I started a new account today how many warps would I be able to save for 3.0?
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>>492894459
Maybe he means those times when the enemy's at like 1 hp and it's aventurine's turn but he skills instead of basic because there's an abundance of SP. I hate that shit so much.
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>>492894530
i want my own firefly too
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do you level up pink foxes skill
how do you build him
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>>492894893
bout 350
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Is that vmg schizo
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>lust provoking image
metafag question
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>>492894414
hes the most powerful hoyo character ever released
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>>492894869
She's starting to dwindle a little bit as her clears with Hoolay aren't T0 material, and it might get worse in the future
I would at least get her cone or E2 just in case
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>>492894973
That's so little...
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>my E2 blade can't clear MoC 12 first half
I'm not asking a refund I only want to delete that brick from my account.
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>>492894397
robin is non-negotiable for feixiao
the second dps can be flexed between topig m7 and moze
the sustain is pretty much only aventurine, gallagher is not very comfortable with 50/50 qpq procs and lingsha does nothing to boost damage
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>>492894883
is this about topaz being a tranny self insert?
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>>492894883
Honkai: Star Rail?
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>>492894250
But I do. Fu did this battle without anyone dying since the boss' release, and sigger jobbed immediately. And it wasn't even e0 sigger.

His auto is extremely god damn awful. Never uses skill unless enough SP (3+), doesn't care about shield status at all. Will use skill when lot's of SP even if they are maxed, will not use skill with 1sp available even if no shields are there.
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>>492894940
Ignore skill and basic, talent=ult
2pc spd, 2pc anything, 2pc Keel/Lukasha/Ageless/etc
EHR% Chest, SPD Boots, DEF/HP% Orb, Energy rope
Cone: Sampocone, Before the Tutorial mission or Signature

Get 140% EHR or higher, get 150+ (preferably 160) SPD, done
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>>492895035
no i rolled fox because i love bricks and hes cool
e0s1 but no idea what the fuck he does lol
if i was a metafag id have e2s1 ack and shes e0s0 kek
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What the fuck am I looking at https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Nrq7E4Y2jVo
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>>492895131
>3.5 limited characters
>too little
buy express pass then
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I don’t ship them but thought it was cute
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>>492895274
>E0 Feixiao and Acheron in the same team 0-cycling sigga
What sort of sorcery is this
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>>492895185
>Single target team against blast weak boss
>Still clears it anyways
lol?
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>>492895438
>FRIENDship
problem solved, enjoy your cute
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>>492895274
Oh no no no Topazbros now even Acheron can replace us...
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>>492894936
>optimising turn count
>in auto battle
just go watch youtube or clean your room dumbass, why are you watching it play for you?
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>>492894869
E0S1 Acheron can 0 cycle Hoolay and is one of the few with Boothill and Feixiao to actually be able to at a reasonable cost.
Fraudfly can't so that's who you should be asking about whether or not she'll fall off kek.
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>>492894883
Big fan!
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>>492895237
good to know, thank you. I thought he'd be slower since I thought he was also a sort of quasidps but I guess not.
I gave him an attack orb and rope, kek
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>>492895458
It's Feixiao using Topaz's sig, which has her give Acheron a stack for every FuA and Ult she launches
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It's almost sad that not a single person will go for Lingsha
A nice design wasted on a dollar store Gallagher
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>>492890292
Well sadly there's not much I can do in terms of DPS. Acheron is maxed and the whole team has not terrible relics so outside of wasting a truckload of stamina in pushing individual DPS by 5% at most that's the ceiling for me. Second phase Aventurine just destroys Fu Xuan with the aoe dice mechanic. I'm farming to get the talent to 10 and I swapped to an HP rope but we'll see if it works.
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>>492895554
NTA but is Yunli good against the schizo wolf?
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8 hours until either the myriad celestia or animated short
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>>492894883
>if it werent for how fucking smug those troons were i wouldnt be so angry
KEKAROOOOOO
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>>492894000
NTA but why is Fu outright bad? I'm getting Robin and she's my only limited sustain.
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>>492895789
>A nice design
It's just Sparkle with a chink outfit
If she was actually a lamia with a snek tail then it'd be great, but the red arms/legs are not it bro
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>>492896071
If she was a snake I wouldn't be interested in her but you do you, furrybro
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>>492896071
>it's just a good design
Exactly
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>>492895752
That's the coolest shit
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>>492893404
>6 cost vs 2 cost
n-no you can't just 36* with cheap hyperbloom and superbreak teams until endgame!!!
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Why do you guys hate Firefly so much? What did she ever do to you?
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>>492896306
She pagged the game with her shilled slow ass banner
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>>492896306
She's popular so she makes losers seethe
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>>492895274
Aventurine has his S1 which gives Acheron stack with each his FUA and Feixiao with Topaz's S1 which also give stack to Acheron with her FUA, and Robin buffing the shit out of everyone. Basically a bit expensive comp of top tier characters which have some synergy with each other. It's similar in concept with DoTcheron.
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>>492896064
no frequent attacks, doesn't battery (huohuo), can't even cope with holding qpq (like gallagher or even luocha)
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>>492896306
She isn't her
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[Verse 1]
Mend your pace, drag to the beat
Hands down! Embrace what you can't be
We're falling to unseen depths, oh-woah

[Verse 2]
Feel the void deep within
You're the doubt where my trust ends
Join my nightmare, it's just the wrong time, woah-oh

[Pre-Chorus]
Leave it all behind
(All behind)
Get ready now

[Chorus]
Fall into my world
Lose your definition
World so low, let me show
And hear my declaration
"No more ties"

[Verse 3]
Off the ground and drag your feet
Look, darkness is near when you feel the beat
We're bound for a deeper fall, oh-woah

[Bridge]
Drowning in disharmony
Lost on the path of enigmata
No escape, no remedy
Only shadows in the fog, ah-ah

[Chorus]
Fall into my world
Lose your definition
World so low, let me show
And hear my declaration
"No more ties"

[Outro]
In this disharmony, we fade
On the path of enigma, we stray
No light to guide our way
Just the echoes of dismay, oh-woah
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>>492896432
Not even as popular as the least popular BA girl
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>>492896306
I think Firefly is okay but her fans are really annoying.
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>>492896436
How much will BS E1 unbrick my DOTcheron?
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>>492895528
This is support Feixiao for Acheron.
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What exactly caused Fu Xuan of all characters to have an anti-schizo. He’s literally in every thread
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>>492894659
Thanks, that was a lot easier. Might be able to go down to 2 cycles later.
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>>492887923
The eagle guide was a troll trying to pass of as me, no idea what he was trying to do? I've never actually insulted anyone or done anything with my guides, maybe me spamming the guides got to him?
>Cones
Between Ratio and Sig is like ~5% better for Signature, of course her own Cone is better but if you already have Ratio's cone you can just save those jades and pull for E1 Robin for example, if you just like having matching cones with the unit then Sig > Ratio's any day.
>Orbs
The difference between ATK and Wind DMG is miniscule, if you have a really shitty wind orb and a really good ATK orb you can just use the ATK orb no issue, substat value starts to pull ahead, at equal substat quality/value Wind is better of course.
>ATK Boots
Its mostly for Bronya/March teams since March buff speed, you only need 121-ish SPD on Feixiao, I put it there at request of someone but I should've elaborated a bit more, sadly character limit is a bitch.
>Sparkle
RM/Sparkle are in the same real "worse than Bronya" but "better than Hanya/Asta", Sparkle is worse than Bronya unless you want SP comfort over damage, I omit those two since I assume people already have them busy with other teams, the actual list for harmonies is
Robin > A fucking 30% gap > Bronya >= Sparkle >= RM > Asta = Hanya
Asta/Hanya are there for f2p or copebros, I'll try to shift some text to include all of them, for Sparkle specifically you need to make her -1 SPD instead of 160SPD which is even weirder since 99% of people use Sparkle at 160.
>Redundancy
Yeah...I gotta clean a bit of the text still, thanks.
>Differences
Aventurine -> Lingsha is a 10% damage drop, might be more or less, someone already pointed out yesterday that I wasnt giving Aventurine enough credit which fair enough, I should.
As for March=Moze it really just depends on weakness, on neutral they perform 1~2% of each other.
>E1 vs S1
Thanks I'll do that too.
>E2
Its a ~50% total damage increase vs E0.
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>>492896549
Everyone will be doing exactly 25% more damage. It's very strong E1.
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>>492895950
not that fag but yes, she's one of the better options
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>492894883
>shit up an entire different thread
>admits to be butthurt
You can stop with the farce now, although I doubt it actually is.
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>>492896586
Yeah but she's using her cone too
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>>492895554
>Reasonable cost
Lmao
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Not rolling for your Robrick
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Now that I think about it Aventurine was probably meant to shill argenti in MoC.
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>>492896710
>This lying chart again
Lmao. Anti Acheron shills still lurking I see. E0S1 is enough.
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>>492896654
Does Kafka's S1 and E1 also generate for Acheron?
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>Wake up
>Hit auto
>Come back and collect rewards
>Wake down
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>skipped Wormventurine, Topag, and Robrick
still rolling for Feixiao btw
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im gonna skip all the banners to E6 Rappa, she better not be a fucking brick
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>>492896605
He Tsundere for Cutie Xuan
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>>492896960
Where the video proof of 0 cycle 3 cost acheron then?
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>RM
>Ack
>FF
RERUNS PLEASE NOW
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I know that Dotcheron is weaker than Pela + SW in MoC but would it be a bad idea to pull Black Swan solely for PF if I already have Acheron and Kafka?
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>>492896542
lol delusional /bag/-fag no one knows or cares about your girls cept some shut-in gooks maybe
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>>492896889
if you're going to use boothill and yunli together you probably don't need a normal sustain, yunli can actually work as a cope "sustain" and you can use another amplifier instead
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>>492897084
She's guaranteed to be a brick but who cares so long as she bricks you up
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>>492897178
>I know that Dotcheron is weaker than Pela + SW in MoC
Its not if both DoTs are 161 spd
>would it be a bad idea to pull Black Swan
E1 makes your DoTs do true damage.
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>>492896886
>GL Surviving
kek
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>>492895274
>entire HP bar in one rotation
Staceyxiao
Staceyron
Staceybin
Staceyturine
I genuflect...

Also
>support
>180k ult
>100k skill
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>>492895950
needs e1 to 0 cycle, overall still lower cost than acheron, e0 acheron clear was done with insane relics + sustainless and the supports had far more eidolons, but it’s expected since this boss is phys weak and not lightning weak
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New profile card design for HSR 2.5, it'll now showcase your performance in all 3 endgame gamemodes.
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>>492896710
Huh, I already have the Boothill team
Guess that's a free 0-Cycle for me brother
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>>492897370
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>>492897409
Sex with this smug loli jpeg
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>>492897331
I don't have E1 or the possibility of getting it. Even if I did, I'd want Robin as well. Strictly E0 Black Swan, E0 Kafka, and E0S1 Acheron.
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>>492897531
Two S5 DDDs is a pretty hefty task sister
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>4 round on the 1st side
>took 6 on the latter
my ff usually btfo this shit, can someone explain why? (other than the build reasons), am i missing some retarded mechanic?
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>>492896710
Thanks! This gremlin continues to be one of my best ever pulling decisions. I love Yunli
>>492897446
>0 cycle
Nigga shut yo’ nerdy ass up, I don’t care about speed running autism LMFAO
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>>492897497
It also showcases something from DU at the bottommost, I don't what it is, maybe your save files for the week?
>>492897717
Flip them, Firefly sucks for Aventurine for the exact same reasons Jingliu does, she does perform really well against Kafka.
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>>492896989
E1 does nothing because Kafka's FUA already applies shock and it's still only 1 stack even if 2 debuffs are applied at the same time. S1 can generate stack if Kafka uses basic for some reason or skill on enemy with no DoTs currently on them.
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>>492897717
Where is your Tingyun for Yunli
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>>492897717
Your gallaGOD, sir?
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So Feixiao is a skip right?
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>>492897839
Thanks anon
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>>492896654
it’s very slightly diluted for acheron since her ult has 20% res pen
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>>492897717
>luospud
Your team has no toughness DMG outside Firefly and Ruan Mei basics
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>>492897791
I'd imagine it would show how far into DU and SU you've gotten?
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>>492897929
>acheron but wind

Yeah do skip
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>>492897929
If you already have enough DPS units that can comfortably clear you don't really need her, better off saving support units
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>>492897929
refer to >>492896710
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>>492897717
its hard for firefly to get value from super-breaking aventurine compared to first half where the extra imaginary weak means HMC gets giga-value there too
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I fucking hate pure fiction and apocalyptic shadow just because of this
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>>492898036
Oh, you're right, thats the Swarm Disaster and Gold & Gears status icons, I guess it'll show your progress for the SU expansions.
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>>492897717
switch sides retardbro.. side1 is img weak so luochud+hmc will help fraudfly break
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how old are you hsrg? and what is your favourite sidequest?
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>>492897929
Every character is a skip unless you like them. Remember, if you need to even ask if you should roll, you never should
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>>492896710
I need E1 Lingsha to match E6 Gallagher?
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>>492896710
Where is topag
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>>492898189
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Kafka's quest
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Can any Robin owners tell me if this works off Robin's basics too?
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>>492898252
Replaced
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>>492898189
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Luka
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>>492898189
22, Clara's quest
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>>492895274
I'm gonna try this once she's out.
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heard that fgo beat your hoyoslop
lol
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love me some firefly & FuA comboing
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>>492898512
Why is every single indomalaysian like that
Every fucking time
The most tribal monkeys imaginable
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>>492898337
By the wording it should, when it only counts allies it should say your allies.
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so let me get this straight 2.5 is Xianzhou and 2.6-"before 3.0" is all Penacony?
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>>492898189
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Luka's companion quest was really good, but it events count then Ghost Hunting Squad.
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>>492898607
Seems that way, yeah
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>>492898252
the ranking is based on limited cost

since they can 0 cycle with moze, there’s no reason to add more limited units and lower the ranking

>but lingsha?
she’s there because she’s a new unit and people want to know if there’s actually a measurable improvement over gallagher (there isn’t)
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>>492898337
Not sure actually. It usually says "excluding the user" in descriptions like these if it didn't, however
Why do you need numbers this specific, though? Her ult takes so much energy to charge + it stays up for so long, that the RNG of getting hit is too much to make any calculations on how many turns she needs to get it
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>>492898607
Please no, I don't want to go back to Sloppacony
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>>492898607
2.6 is Penacony
2.7 is unknown, purpotedly first half will be Sunday (currently held prisoner by the IPC in Penacony) and second half will be Tingyun (currently unknown location, rescued by Ruan Mei)
I have no idea whats the master plan to bring those two plot lines together.
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>>492898189
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That old man in Penacony who was friends with Screwllum
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>>492897331
bro I have E1S1 Kafka, E1S1 BS and E0S1 Acheron do I go for E2 Kafka?
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>>492897791
aight
>>492897842
it was my first run, i tried ting on fl11 and she keeps on dying so i got discouraged from even using her on this run lmao
>>492897889
hes like only e2.. and not that built. 2bh i thought i was gonna rolled for lingsha or jiaoq so... yea
>>492898034
2bf luocha/huohuo usually helps me on any ff moc since i got her.
ps this is e1s0 ff, and e1s0 rm. so yea.
>>492898129
see i thought that too, but i saw the cryo weakness and i was like its probably another ff round.
plus if i use ff on the first side, i felt i was going to get fucked on the aventurine side (as always with using ff lmao)
>>492898158
my yunli m7 did well tho, no? (well to me 3 sounds as a f2p is good lmao)
i dont remember anymore but i think my yunli wouldn't do well on that side.
I'll try again tho if its better other way around.
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>>492898189
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Envision a Rose Forthcoming
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>>492898752
4* are NOT 0 cost, especially E6.
Those charts are worthless.
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>>492898189
23 - Kafka's
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>>492898865
E2 Kafka is JUST 25% Damage, a Lighting Orb is 38% DMG, Ruan Mei skill is 68% DMG, so on.
It reads as if it was very strong but its rather weak.
https://honkai-star-rail.fandom.com/wiki/DMG_Boost#Eidolons
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>>492898865
Wouldn't it be smarter to go for E2 Acheron?
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>>492897717
>side 1 has img weak
>puts superbreak on the other side
?????????
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>>492898865
E2 Kafka is meh eidolon. It's just 25% dmg to DoT only. Not final multiplier but just additive one which sums up with elemental orb and other buffs of that manner.
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>use the shitty green rat for Aventurine
>he completely rapes the team with 3 attacks in a row and everyone dies before any healing can be done
Why did you tell me to roll for her...
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How many limited LC do you have and how many 75/25 have you lost?

I have 5 and lost once (JY, JL, Kafka, Yunli, ACK).
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I still have hope that we'll get our own room in the train at some point
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>>492898189
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Anything with March 7th
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Jing Yuan:

Yo, Feixiao, you think you’re the best in this fight,
But your style’s so dull, can’t even match my light.
I’m Jing Yuan, the General, you’re just a shadow,
When I step on the scene, man, I steal the show, yo.

My lightning strikes hard, got the thunder on lock,
While you’re stuck in your corner, just a timid rock.
I command the forces, got the whole squad in line,
You’re just a footnote, a sidekick, outshined.

Feixiao:

Oh, Jing Yuan, you’re flashy, but your skills are so weak,
You’re the General, sure, but your game’s at its peak.
I’m Feixiao, the Dark, the storm you can’t tame,
When I step in the ring, I’m the one bringing the flame.

You might have the thunder, but I’m the quiet storm,
A shadow in the night, where true legends are born.
You’re loud and you’re flashy, but can you handle the night?
I’m the unseen power, and I’m ready to fight.

Jing Yuan:

Feixiao, you’re slick, but you lack the finesse,
I’m a thunderstorm king, putting you to the test.
You think you’re a threat with your shadows and stealth,
But I’m bringing the power, got the wealth and the health.

I’m the lightning, the thunder, the force of the skies,
While you’re just a whisper, a shadow in disguise.
Come at me with your dark, see how quick you’ll fall,
I’m the thunder and lightning, the greatest of them all.

Feixiao:

You’re all about thunder, but you’re just a facade,
In the dark, I’m the master, you’re just another fraud.
You’re the General with the flash, but you lack the true might,
I’m the silent enigma, the master of the night.

You boast and you brag, but your skills are a joke,
When I step to the mic, watch your thundercloud choke.
I’m the true dark horse, the power you can’t see,
Step back, Jing Yuan, it’s my time to be free.
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>>492898189
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Bailu's or Luka's
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>>492899148
We never told anyone to roll for that redditslop character
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>>492899183
dad?
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>>492899198
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>>492899179
No need. We can just sleep together with March.
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>>492899148
Unironically a skill issue Shonen tard.
HuoHuo makes this fight a non issue.
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>>492899198
is this epic rap battles
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>>492897717
Hey, I'm not the only one who used superbreak on the wrong side.
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>>492898962
yunli obliterates aventurine since when she gets targeted for the dice game, she can easily win with her blast skill and refill her energy to max
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>>492898189
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the cocona one because letting her die made me laugh
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>>492885736
horizontal fags would be using firefly and acheron, not outdated jingliu
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>>492899179
Then we couldn't keep having passionate sex with March 7th every night, because we share a room
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>>492899362
your age is cap, stop playing
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>>492898769
>Why do you need numbers this specific
so he can open up the char screen in combat and see whether skilling to get energy for ult is necessary or not
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>>492899148
Stop posting vegeta images I can't help but read these in a parody of his dub voice
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>>492897717
>can someone explain why?
Skill issue.
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>>492898865
I believe you alread asked this question yesterday and decided to roll Robin.
If you're a different anon then, specifically for DoTcheron team:
>E2 Ack allows you to equip SPD boots(E2 gives extra stack upon Ack's turn) which lands more SPs and guarantees BS's Armor shred's uptime to be 100% even against extremely fast enemies.
Every other Eidolon on Kafka/BS/Acheron outside of that doesn't really boosts the damage noticeably hard.
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If Sunday joins the express I hope he gets clowned by everyone
"Ey can you pass me the salt"
"For what? is your next plan becoming the aeon of salt and make everyone's food taste salty oooh im scared"
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>>492898189
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Bailu sidequest because it has cunny
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>>492899427
no cap
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>>492899427
I don't wear hats and I will continue to play the game, thank you
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Where are my Clarabwos at? Or did you all ditch her for Yunli
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(real)
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>>492898189
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Sushang’s quest
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>>492899448
oh, right
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>>492899053
>>492899058
>>492899121
you guys are right - any guesses when we're getting Acheron rerun?
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Are we getting the new in-game Robin song options in 2.5 or later?
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gepard or lynx in the meantime for second team? waiting for aventurine rerun
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>>492899707
2.6 second half.
There's only one new 5* in that patch so they might as well throw Acheron+1 into that slot.
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>>492899601
Here.>>492899529
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>>492899831
we aren't getting any song options.
it's just a psyop to make people roll r*bin.
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>>492883913
Duran only works if you have more than 2 fua character in there. It doesn't do shit if it's a hypercarry fua. It's gonna be slow as hell to build up with only Aventurine in there. It's why people are doing cope team comps with M7, they already invested with Duran.
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>>492899601
There were millions of clears with her these last few threads
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>>492899707
Probably 2.7, maybe 2.6
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>>492898048
>>acheron but wind
Ok but consider the following.
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>>492899920
Gepard so you can feel the improvement when you get Aventurine
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can she do it?
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Sushang reminds me of my daughter.
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>>492884395
>roll mandatory supportS for pagfly
>doesn't roll the mandatory support for ackeron
Brain issue, most likely.
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>>492899601
fellow CLARAGOD reporting in
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>>492899148
I did it with lynx on the first aventurine moc and now with natasha. Wtf are you doing
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>>492883080
1) Your team is highly questionable. Bronya would improve the team drastically, or Hunt March 7th as a G2P option
2) Aventurine is a terrible enemy for her, forcing her to waste her charges vs his dice, and eating tons of damage
3)She's more than a year old at this point, and in all that time hasn't gotten any relics or supports that make her better
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>>492900182
The young amicassador of the Sky-Faring Commission can do anything!
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>>492900182
that's like.. ~25000 hp?
don't think it's happening without r*bin
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>>492900080
Don't you love these tards that don't understand how the game works
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>>492896652
>maybe me spamming the guides got to him?
Could be that, or could be someone just thinking it was funny, or could be someone who genuinely believed to be correct. I do like these guides, don't know if you made the previous ones or not, but just in general it is nice to get some gameplay discussion in these threads. And most times it is posted, someone finds it useful. So thanks for doing it, even if I don't really care that much about the character.
>Between Ratio and Sig is like ~5% better for Signature
Good to know, so basically 5% gap between sig and ratio, and then 10% between ratio and herta/swordplay. If you have the characters, maybe good to also include it in the guide? Maybe only mention difference since you already mention ratio cone in the E1 vs S1 section. Really trying to save space since the guide could be more detailed in other places.
>The difference between ATK and Wind DMG is miniscule
Yeah that is my bad, missed the dmg% in the stupid wall of text talent that she has. They should really start splitting the talent up and putting more stuff into the traces, just for readability.
>Its mostly for Bronya/March teams
Think of all my points, this is probably the most important one to make more clear. You got 2 questions about it, and it isn't something you can realize from just reading her kit like the orb.
>RM/Sparkle are in the same real "worse than Bronya" but "better than Hanya/Asta"
I see, that makes sense. If the difference is that big between Bronya and the rest, maybe just say "Robin > Bronya > other harmonies"? And then say in brackets after it "(F2P: Asta/Hanya)"?
>Aventurine -> Lingsha is a 10% damage drop
Was more thinking of how much worse is Gallagher, since someone new might consider pulling next banner Lingsha for Fei or would wonder if they can cope with him.
> vs E0.
Wouldn't a comparison with E1 be better? To estimate going for cone or E2. Maybe could merge it with the next section as a general overview of investing more?
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>>492900080
>No external buffs
Nigga Acheron ulñt takes 8 years to charge on solo, what is this retarded comparison
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>>492882771
Kissing Aventurine.
Hugging Aventurine.
Sex with Aventurine.
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>>492900080
>No external buffs
Its not a fair comparison. Acheron's kit is BUILT to never require external buffs.
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>>492900208
What's your daughter's UID?
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How bricked is your account?
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>>492900414
>>No external buffs
Not even just that, it's only comparing the two units' personal damage, rather than the whole team's (considering you know, there's at least 2 DPS on every Feixiao team)
If anything those calcs show that Acheron is a complete brick in ST
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need a replacement for e0 tingyun soon because dawei refuses to rerun her over jokes like arlan and HOOK, please i beg you
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Status?
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>>492900598
I have E1S1 Blade
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>>492884273
I don't know whether to be appalled that you pulled E4 Fu, or impressed at the commitment to your waifu.
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>>492900512
>Its not a fair
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>>492900598
My only limited harmony is Sparkle.
I lost my first and only 75/25 for Acheron's LC.
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>>492900678
Brother, I have good news.
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>>492900779
Read the whole sentence bro, you're making Acheron users look bad
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>>492900684
that's a man
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>>492900779
Dumbcheron.....
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>>492900208
She's a good girl
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Boothill Bros we are so back
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https://youtu.be/IEHsm1oVwcU
>Hunt is a brick path
>
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>>492900837
forgot to say please don't say sparkle
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>>492899601
this moc is fun as fuck for Clara
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>>492900414
>he thinks feixiao doesn't have the same problem
She would perform horribly bad as a hypercarry since supports generally don't attack much or often at all.
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troonhill flopped
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>>492895140
bro even my e0 blade can do it
no doubt about the brick part though, he's getting benched when i get feixiao
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>>492901041
Gay.
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>>492900208
Your daughter is retarded?
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>>492900208
How dumb is your daughter? Can she even read?
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>>492900080
>Comparing ult damage with speed boots feixiao
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>>492901075
Yes, that's why she isn't played as hypercarry, retardbro
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>>492901075
Every one of her units provides her with buffs (Topaz, Robin, Moze, March, Bronya, Sparkle)
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>>492901075
Yes, that's why she benefits from a fua team that attacks frequently...
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>>492899601
>not using both
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>>492895140
Unlimited Blade Works takes 3 cycles E0 on Kafka
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God DAMN the Feixiao shilling is going HARD today huh
Not that it's undeserved, I've just never seen this much of it in a single thread
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>>492901297
>waaaaah you can't not play feixiao in a non-fua team
>but you should play acheron in a non-gayfox team to see how long it takes her
Retardgod. Kids shouldn't be allowed here.
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>>492900080
>the AOE character does more damage against 3 enemies than the single target character
>evaluating number values without account for best teams or clear speed
B-but the number is bigger guys...
Also even if feixiao were trash I'm still pulling the foxgirl tomboy milf, be serious
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feixiao is a brick
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>>492901495
>say something retarded
>hurr shills durr
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>>492901495
We got kids to feed, please understand
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>>492901608
I literally just said she deserves the shilling bro, it's just funny to see this many posts showing how strong she is
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someone tell me why i should build march and what she does
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>>492901537
>>but you should play acheron in a non-gayfox team to see how long it takes her
Nigga no one said that go take your schizo meds
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>>492901740
Her sword zaps demons
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>>492898752
what a worthless chart, you'll get e2 feixiao before you get e6 moze LMAO.
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>>492883634
>Attempts 7
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>>492901537
>projecting
Yep he's out of arguments
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>>492901740
She's good for FuA and Break teams (thus is Xueyi's best teammate)
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>>492896652
>Lingsha vs. Aventurine
Those ridiculous aventurine damage numbers are comparing full fart team vs. Hoolay where aventurine gets full stacks every turn for free because of how fast hoolay attacks. Lingsha does slightly less single target and way more in aoe.
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>>492899601
Get your march eidolons bwo
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>>492901837
I doubt not having E6 would make that much of a big difference for Moze anyway, since his biggest spike is at E2, while the rest of the Eidolons are just slight personal damage increases
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what should be my team here?
I can't 12 star this
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>w-w-where's your aventurine!!
Dead from AIDS like all the other worms I don't roll.
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>>492901996
way more what, damage? the only way she's doing damage is in superbreak, unless you're building some sort of crit lingsha which sounds dumb, she helps reduce toughness damage when the enemy is fire weak but outside that she's just contributing feixiao stacks...and thats it.
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>>492901547
I think the important part was that Acheron did more damage in AoE AND Single Target.
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>>492900598
very
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>>492902239
>no Yunli
>no Firefly
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>>492887378
Would be fine if they actually put in an ice shilling boss that doesn't hard counter her
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>>492902239
where's your gallagher, he's been on at least 2 selectors already
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>>492902274
>More in aoe and single target
No, she did more damage In a white room in some retards spreadsheet
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post clears, probably could have saved a cycle on both sides easily
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>>492902274
feixiao does more than ult bwo
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>>492902174
>le doesn't matter, I'll add their power anyways for this shitty chart and call it "free"
Hang yourself.
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>>492902512
Don't want to roll males
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>>492902371
>brickli
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>>492902239
Use march8 with the basic attack blessing buff for kafka, and use clara with her. Figure out some superbreak comp for the second half, probably with sushang, her eidolons don't matter
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my nigga
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>>492902512
>selectors
What selectors?
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>>492902682
Not nearly as cool as my undefeatable Trotterlord
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>>492902746
4 star selectors from events like the candy crush one
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what are private servers do y'all use?
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>>492902274
Acheron is also a hypercarry who's teammates deal no damage, whereas Feixiao is near always going to be run with at least one other DPS. It's useless comparing two characters who function differently.
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>>492902615
Literally better than Acheron and Firefly this MoC. Also the only character in the game that is meta in each game mode (AS, MoC, PF)
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The Fate collab is just the best thing to ever happen to a Mihoyo game
this means I'll finally be able to pull for an actual LIKABLE character that I find to be more than just a design
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>>492902816
Linghsa-SR from the Reversed Rooms server, its the easiest one to setup unless you like eating glue.
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Kafka who?
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>>492902926
can it run apoc shadow yet
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which female has the biggest bush
i don't think anyone in belobog shaves regularly
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>>492903004
Feixiao or Yukong
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>>492902615
Yeah bwo just use your Clara instead LOL
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>>492903004
hook or clara, one is to wild for a razor and the other is to timid to try it
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>>492903004
Ruan Mei
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>>492902979
Yesn't you can set the apoc shadow fight with the AV counter but it'll have no blessing active, afaik xeondev never fixed that.
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>>492903004
Bronya, she's way too busy with work to think about stuff like that
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>>492903116
jesus imagine the smell of fox girls
>>492903138
i don't think they have to worry about that yet
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>>492903004
Someone should categorize with tierlist maker or something.
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Clara and Yunli are the strongest characters in the game
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>>492903004
Why would any of them shave? This isn't an american game.
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>>492903226
>>492903274
both good choices
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>>492901740
FuA.Speed/crt damage buffs for a dps character, Sub dps and easy single target breaks.
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>>492903432
my javs are increasingly less hairy
i blame the koreans
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Now that the dust has settled

Which Hoyoverse game is the true passion project?
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>>492903829
Who fucking cares I just want good content
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>>492903829
The Honkai MMO
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Looking at 1.x DPS, I like how some of them have one major trace that is completely useless.
Seele: When current HP percentage is 50% or lower, reduces the chance of being attacked by enemies.
Jing Yuan: Somehow, none.
Blade: When Blade's current HP is at 50% of Max HP or lower, Incoming Healing increases by 20%.
Blade, again: If Blade hits a Weakness Broken enemy after using Forest of Swords, he will restore HP equal to 5% of his Max HP plus 100.
Kafka: None
DHIL: Increases the chance to resist Crowd Control debuffs by 35%. (lol)
Jingliu: While in the Spectral Transmigration state, increases Effect RES by 35%. (lol)

Starting from Ratio and onwards all premium DPS units have no such useless traces, Acheron even takes it a step further and has no useless minor traces (like DEF% or HP%), all of them are ATK, DMG and CRIT.
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>>492903968
Yup. El Generalissimo wins again.
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>>492903968
Well I guess that’s one way they planned future powercreep
I wonder if they’ll continue
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>>492902858
>Also the only character in the game that is meta in each game mode (AS, MoC, PF)
the next AS looks fucking terrible for yunli
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>>492903829
all of them except genshin. it stopped having soul and passion since inazuma
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>Jingliu
>Fu
>Feixiao
Why do I have a thing for easily powercrept chinks
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>>492904251
I dont know why these guys dont realize every banner gets shilled endgame content
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>>492904234
I don't think they can add a 4th major trace, but they can just keep adding wordslop onto the three major traces to continue powercreeping stuff, just tackle more and more effects into the traces/talents.
If Ratio released in 2.8 He probably wouldn't depend in debuffs as much and his FUAs would be considered Ult Damage on top of better CR/CDMG buffs and so on.
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>>492904234
They removed speed from Feixiao and gave her def traces (wtf) so they might only reserve it for emanator wank.
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you'll regret skipping E1S1 Lingsha if you're a Firefly main
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It's kind of crazy to think how strong V1 E2 Feixiao could've been if it somehow made it to live
>Massive base speed AND speed traces
>E2 was literally a 90+% damage increase
She would've been actually unstoppable, I don't know what Hoyo was thinking back then, especially the E2
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How sovlful were my teams?
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Blade supremacy! I'm so glad I can use him again
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>>492904809
I'm just going for e1 and using Gallagher cone
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>>492904945
>IPC scum
Exact opposite of sovlful.
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>>492904945
>A
>Rx3
>G
get the rope
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>>492903829
The one they decide to shill for the moment. Genshin is the best atm with all the new QoL features and the new region.
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>All of this bullshit + Jiaoqiu E1S1 Vuln on enemy
>Still only 530k dmg on 3BA + 300k from Ult
Man, I remember when 500% ATK used to be a big deal.
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>>492904945
>IPC friends
Very soulful and powerful
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>>492905064
>claim to be a bladegod
>didn't roll for jade
???
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>>492905090
>>492905138
>>492905256
I was more hoping for someone to comment on Misha.
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>>492902545
That second team is very cute
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>>492905246
wtf is your team. my dhil never does more than 240k...and I have better crit
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>>492903829
ZZZ devs called it their little baby so it's safe to assume it's their passion project, at least until Tiffany starts infecting it with her bullshit
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I'm new and my only Abundance chars are Natasha and Lynx, is Lingsha any good if I want a 5 star healer?
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>>492905478
Misha is less SOVL than Jingloo against Aventurine
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>>492902878
could be the worst thing ever to happen as mihoyo locking away parts of the kit behind dupes will only look worse in comparison to fgo locking away only power behind dupes, resulting in negative publicity and brand image loss.
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Multiplication Luocha should work with Feixiao, right? My limited sustains are Fu/Fofo/Luocha and I figure Gallagher will be taken by FF sometimes
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>>492905478
it's cute! post your misha
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>>492905636
just wait for Aventurine rerun, most likely gonna happen in the version after Lingsha
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>>492905456
I'm waiting for a full-on HP support, please understand
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>>492905664
explain how misha is less soul when he literally needs to be funneled sp constantly or he does no damage at all
when chinkpoo has nothing holding her back and she was the meta shilled dps for ages that if you didn't have you were retarded and he's a dead never to be seen or referenced again 4*
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>>492905636
Lingsha is pretty much Firefly's designated comfort cocksleeve, for newcuties there are better options (though if you plan to roll for Firefly she may be worth picking up).
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the next apoc shadow looks atrocious for anyone who doesn't have fua built, what the FUCK is that aventurine
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Bros I only have the Jingliu story quest left of the Xianzhou character quests! I am almost ready to play the Luofu 2.0 story and do the March quest to get her new form and eidolons...
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>>492905571
E1S1 DHIL, E2S1 Jiaoqiu, E0S1 Robin, E0S0 Sparkle, not a relatable team and its really shitty to use against Kafka since you just need to pray that she dominates Robin while she's in concerto, otherwise the run is over.
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which of the hsr girls have cocks? obviously stelle. it's canon that hers is 6 inches and thick and veiny and uncut btw. but who else???
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>>492905985
me on the right
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>>492905190
Are you high? Genshin is years behind on QoL and is slowly getting up to speed but it's just too late
Genshin is the most soulless of all Mihoyo game has they're only doing the bare minimum at all times
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>>492905768
His stats are quite bad, pls understand. Still hoping we get a 5* Destruction LC that actually synergizes with his kit...

>>492905985
>when he literally needs to be funneled sp constantly
tbf his E6 helps with that a lot. I actually think he's one of the best users of the Bronya/Robin/Gallagher combo because of it.
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>>492906226
sushang
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>>492906274
Ok but you clearly don't play Genshin and don't know what features I'm talking about, so what's the point in having this discussion? Genshin bad. HSR good. Let's move on with our lives now.
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>>492906226
b-bigger than mine by like 1 cm
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>>492905985
misha can just time his ults to not waste them on the dice, jingliu cannot control if she's in schizo mode when dice rolls come up and it fucks over her rotation super hard
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>>492906456
I sure as hell am playing it. It's just the worst Mihoyo game.
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>>492906168
Is JQ really that good then? I have all of them but mine are like e2s0 dhil, e0s1, e0s0 and e2s1 sparkle.
I always run that build with Tingyun instead
I'm assuming this is a relic issue then, but very nice clear anon!
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>>492906274
Genshin is really a shame. The new region has a cool concept, and I actually liked the story. But man is it feeling rushed. Extremely yank, new char is barely playable missing shit left and right because some small object is in the way. New feature (the mainstat crafting) is a sad joke. You still have all the piss poor rates of main-stats, can't regularly craft new sets and so on. Still need crystal flies, still need to grind your ass off for mats, local specialties and so on.

It's a real shame. If they could get their heads out of their asses and just give it parity with Star Rail or ZZZ, it'd be immediately good enough.
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>>492906168
>800k damage
>boss and elite only half dead
The amount of damage required to clear MoC nowadays is fucking ridiculous. Seele doing 50k with her skill wouldn't even move Kafka's health bar.
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>everyone talking about muh dices
>me, going for 0 cycles: ???
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>>492906576
DHIL is pretty overloaded with CRIT DMG, DMG/ATK from his regular amp sources (Sparkle, Tingyun, RM, Robin, etc), if you're doing a sustainless clear JQ Vulnerability increases his damage a ton since its from a new source rather than stacking more of what he already has.
I don't know if his best sustain team is now Sustain/DHIL/Sparkle/Robin or Sustain/DHIL/Sparkle/JQ but its probably one of those, probably depends on DHIL's eidolons at that level, dunno if some DHIL main has done the hard math.
>>492906854
Kafka has 1.2m HP and the elite has 450k so checks out that 800K would only get you halfway there.
And yeah, its bullshit.
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>HSR has always been dead content wise
>People here bragged about it because it respects their time
>Natlan drops
>It's now Genshin's fault HSR is contentless as usual
I understand that we want to talk about genshin but is this not boring yet?
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>>492906559
Then you probably should've noticed that you can mash through voice dialogue now, collectibles on the map are marked out without you needing to consult a fucking guide anymore, movement in the new region is faster and more fun, rewards are improved, dailies/weeklies/whatever are more streamlined and faster, drop rates are increased, gacha rates are improved, artifact system is (somewhat) improved. Just because you're burned out doesn't mean that the game didn't undergo massive changes. The new update was huge. It's there whether you like the game or not.
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>>492906926
how does it feel spending money to miss content?
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>>492907230
>>492907230
>>492907230
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>>492906854
>50k
I mean, that's okay for dual dps Seele. QQ hits for 150k x 2. Seele picks up the trash.
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He has erectile dysfunction
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>>492907087
feels lonely at the top
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>>492906456
the moment you play botw2 is when you realise genshin popularity is not because its a good game but because the children playing it are gambling addicts
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>>492907067
things that other hoyo games have had for several months or longer at this point now
genshin is still playing catch up with qol
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>>492907532
That's simply not true. Genshin is ahead in some aspects and behind in others, but it's pointless to argue with you. Let's just pretend Genshin is the worst at everything because you're burned out and don't like the game.
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>>492907518
How are people posting this opinion unironically when the same can be said about HSR and any other turn based JRPG? Literally two buttons per character vs. other JRPGs where each character has a plethora of abilities to use. Ridiculous that this conversation is even being had here of all places. Talk about pot calling the kettle black.
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>>492907903
I'm not even the same anon but okay, you're pretending genshin is the best at everything because you're blinded by your addiction
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>>492908029
I quite literally said in the very post you're replying to "ahead in some aspects and behind in others" and you've turned it into "best at everything" because you're so blinded by your fanboyism. It's honestly hilarious. This is why it's pointless to argue with retards like you.
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>>492908029
nta but people can openly say genshin's combat is bad. No HSR player will say their combat is bad because they will always deflect to something else like it having auto mode
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>>492908160
>Genshin is the best atm
alright retard, looks like you have dementia too
>>492905190
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>>492908712
And how does that equal to "best at everything" you drooling double digit IQ mouth breather?
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>>492908881
no point arguing with you when you'll forget what you said 5 minutes later
go back to /gig/
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>>492909243
There's no point arguing with me because I won't entertain your low IQ fanboy bullshit.
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>>492904041
Prone bone while using her horns as handlebars
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Is E1 or S1 higher prio for Robin?
Would getting Fei be worth it if I have E0S0 Ratio and plan to get Topaz S1 the banner after? I like Fei more, but I don't wanna brick my account by wasting all the levelling/trace mats I put into Ratio.



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