House Hlaalu edition.This general is dedicated to the discussion of all past, current, and upcoming Role Playing Games that are played on the 'puter. Games such as:Arcanum, Baldur's Gate, Darklands, Dark Sun, Deus Ex, Divinity, Dragon Age, Expeditions, Fallout, Gothic (Risen, ELEX), Icewind Dale, Knights of the Chalice, Might & Magic, Neverwinter Nights, Owlcat RPGs, Pillars of Eternity, Planescape: Torment, Shadowrun, Spiderweb Software RPGs, Star Wars: Knights of the Old Republic, Temple of Elemental Evil, The Age of Decadence, The Elder Scrolls, Torment: Tides of Numenera, Tyranny, Ultima, UnderRail, Vampire: The Masquerade – Bloodlines, Wasteland, Wizardry and many others.Upcoming RPGs:>Aletheia: Return of Odysseushttps://store.steampowered.com/app/1565070/Aletheia_Return_of_Odysseus/>Archaelundhttps://store.steampowered.com/app/1082970/Archaelund/>Archquesthttps://store.steampowered.com/app/1664450/Archquest/>Avowedhttps://store.steampowered.com/app/2457220/Avowed/>Call of Saregnar:https://store.steampowered.com/app/1174510/Call_of_Saregnar/>Code of the Savagehttps://store.steampowered.com/app/673100/Code_of_the_Savage/>Dragon Age: Veilguardhttps://store.steampowered.com/app/1845910/Dragon_Age_The_Veilguard/>Flint: Treasure of Oblivionhttps://store.steampowered.com/app/2366130/Flint_Treasure_of_Oblivion/>Greedfall 2https://store.steampowered.com/app/1997660/Greedfall_II_The_Dying_World/>New Arc Linehttps://store.steampowered.com/app/2458310/New_Arc_Line/>Pathfinder: The Dragon's Demandhttps://www.kickstarter.com/projects/ossianstudios/pathfinder-the-dragons-demand>Prometheus Wepthttps://store.steampowered.com/app/1208110/Prometheus_Wept/>Sector Unknownhttps://store.steampowered.com/app/2734270/Sector_Unknown/>Shadow of the Roadhttps://store.steampowered.com/app/1173980/Shadow_of_the_Road/>Swordhaven: Iron Conspiracyhttps://store.steampowered.com/app/2108180/Swordhaven_Iron_Conspiracy/Previous: >>492780165
More upcoming RPGs:>The Necromancer's Talehttps://store.steampowered.com/app/1315320/The_Necromancers_Tale/>The Wayward Realmshttps://store.steampowered.com/app/1685310/The_Wayward_Realms/>Vampire the Masquerade: Bloodlines 2https://store.steampowered.com/app/532790/Vampire_The_Masquerade__Bloodlines_2/>Warhammer 40,000: Rogue Trader - Void Shadowshttps://store.steampowered.com/app/2951990/Warhammer_40000_Rogue_Trader__Void_Shadows/>World of Anterrahttps://store.steampowered.com/app/2402470/World_of_Anterra/---Some other previously released RPGs:27.02.2009 - Drakensang27.05.2010 - Alpha Protocol11.91.2011 - Drakensang: The River of Time05.09.2012 - Inquisitor22.01.2014 - Blackguards20.01.2015 - Blackguards 228.05.2015 - Serpent in the Staglands20.10.2015 - Sword Coast Legends23.09.2016 - Stellar Tactics12.07.2017 - Brigand: Oaxaca04.08.2017 - Grimoire : Heralds of the Winged Exemplar19.12.2018 - ATOM RPG25.10.2019 - The Outer Worlds08.04.2021 - Siege of Avalon: Anthology13.09.2021 - ATOM RPG Trudograd07.09.2021 - Encased17.03.2022 - Black Geyser31.03.2022 - Weird West10.10.2023 - Space Wreck09.11.2023 - Colony Ship15.02.2024 - Caribbean Legend29.03.2024 - Felvidek10.04.2024 - Broken Roads14.05.2024 - Dread Delusion30.05.2024 - Skald: Against the Black Priory30.05.2024 - Vendir: Plague of Lies
ITZ coming. The biggest Tamriel Rebuilt content release is almost upon us and it's going to be pure, undiluted Hlaalukino:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WjWBtKFGto0
>>493093887Who watches videos like that?
People who played Morrowind on launch, child.
>>493095452>and it's INSANEkys
>>493095621>offended by words
I'll play a Magic Deceiver Trickster and make it work somehow!
there is no such thing as lawful goodif the law prevents you from doing good, you are not goodif the law does not prevent you from doing good, you are not lawful
About to play pic related after trying it months agoFrom what I had seen lore was a pretty essential skill and locked myself out of a lot of checksShould I play a magic build? What's a melee type that synergizes with magic?
>>493098206the concepts of good and lawful aren't absolute, and dnd alignment is a spectrum, not binary
>>493096021Just merge spellbooks fellow tricksterchad.
>>493093773>Caribbean Legendso is that just a steam re-release of one of those Sea Dogs/Corsairs series games?which one then? I remember there were a couple of good ones, but a ton of shit ones as wellwill it make me study XVII century ships and navy lingo like the very first one for maximum immersion? [i want that]
>>493103424Sea Dogs: To Each His Own. When dealing with slavjank games like these the rule of thumb is to always buy the latest version, because it's the most polished one.
Cephal and Maegar are fucking retarded.
>>493103972>because it's the most polished onesweet summer child
Yeah, nope, not a single one, right.
How much ac is too much ac? I can already hit over 100
/crpgg/
>>493096021It works, but that's just because the class is strong as fuck, mostly because of Owlcat code™. If you fuse Hold Person with something like Slow now you have essentially Mass Hold Monster, it doesn't just work on humanoids. If you fuse Phantasmal Killer with anything you can ignore ALL resistances and immunities, it even works on constructs if you fuse it with something that ignored spell resistance like exploding runes. Finally Arcana theft will steal everysingle buff the enemy in an AoE has if you fuse it with something like slow.
>"A middle school teacher in Novosibirsk was fired after it was found out that he had been teaching his student exclusively about warhammer 4000 lore during his classes for an entire year"Holy shit, I kneel
>>493115226They should really fix the bypasses thats dumb
Can I experience this feel in WotR?
>open the door with a lockpick (marked by 'stealing')>behind the door there are guards>all with their backs facing me>the door opened but all my companions were in stealth and out of range (besides the green-blue furry manlet who got yellow circle for a second)>a guard shouts 'Guard the door to the command tower! Protect captain at any costs'>doesn't even turn in my direction>doesn't force a conversation>gets hostile circle beneath him but does nothing anywayCué? This is stupid since my party wasn't even in range but they triggerred him... but also didn't?>he saw the door openAnd he didn't even examine it, just started shouting at the wind, and earlier prison guards didn't even react to leaving cell doors open lmao. When you do something like this at least be consistent. Reloading right here cause it might have fucked with conditions somewhere.
>>493116652The Slow+Hold Person is strong but at least it doesn't ignore immunities, i.e. it doesn't work on undead or enemies with Freedom of Movement, but Phantasmal Killer ignoring all immunities is retarded.
>thread was archived, but I already wrote some drivel so might as well>>4930400981. World reactivity. It's also the thing crpgs are worst at. QFG at a young age spoiled me, and playing again recently has reminded me. Backdrops/characters/etc that have no interactivity, purpose, use, acknowledgment might as well be static white walls and mannequins. 2. Neither is necessarily better, just depends on implementation. 3. Distinctions everywhere should be meaningful. From character development to dialogue options. A page of "(sarcastic) Yes", "(happy) Yes", "(angry) Sure, why not", "(proud) Of course, yes!" etc... all leading to "Yes", is just cosmetic fluff. Same for class features, and anything else. Distinctions should be meaningful. 4. Could be either, again depends on the game. I think they need to work in conjunction. I suppose the main story comes first since I'm not at all opposed to solo games. But the companions should make sense in why they're joining you on the journey. With too many games, the reason is "because it's a videogame and you have companions duh", cheap and lazy.
You know what we need? CRPG E-sports.
>>493118854>CRPG E-sports.It's called wargaming, son.
I wanna smooch her.
>also, since my opinion is incredibly valuable>>493039736>what do you think of the somewhat randomized loot in pillars of eternity?I'm all about it. I actively avoid any kind of "meta" and find a bit of joy in the frustration of build autists or people who "plan a run", wherever it might come from. In other words, my character wouldn't know it's randomized, so it's completely fine.
whats your favorite crpg-related vine?
>>493098206There is no such thing as chaotic goodIf you do something chaotic, and the outcome happens to be good, you only accomplished something good by accident, not because it was good. "Obeying the higher law" rather than the law of the realm you happen to be in is not "chaotic", even REGILL says thats what you ought to do.
>>493115226Does the time manipulator stuff reset mutagens? Might do a Magic Deceiver/Vivisectionist Legend at some point if so. DC can be stacked high enough even without mythic abilities plus I'd be able to mutagen cheese a billion AC
>>493120262I'm not sure, but you can reset things like domain uses, so most likely yes. The only thing you don't reset are magic item charges, like metamagic rods. The only issue is that you can only activate it during combat, so if you rested just before a boss fight you won't be able to get your bajillion AC, unless you cheese it with summoning good aligned summons with the jaws of the jackal equipped, but this gets very annoying.
Anyone got any scifi horror games to recommend? I'm kinda bored of fantasy ones for the moment
I don't understand how chanter works, can I just ignore that dude in PoE?
>>493120702>scifi horrorSkald.
>>493120754retardKana is the bro-est of broswhy are you even playing crpgs?
>>493120702>horror gamesPoE
>>493121303To make you mad and buthurt.
>>493121682that's a really retarded reason to play, and you're not even hitting your goal. Reconsider your life choices
>>493121808Nuh it's a great reason and I love how obliterated you are. I roleplay as a guy who makes faggots seethe, works both in-game and in real life as you can see.
>can't understand how casters work>asks if they can ignore one of the best companionsPerhaps a game where you tap things on your phone is a better fit for you?
>>493122581I tapped your mom lmao
>>493120754>I don't understand how chanter worksAre you legitimately retarded? I'm asking sincerely, do you have some kind of debilitating mental condition?
>>493123050I don't know but I definitely tapped that guy's mom at least.
>hey, so there's this super duper plan to lure Benweth out of his quarters by a group pirates stealing the ship, all you gotta do is clear the area and ring the bell thrice, got it?>clear the area>ring the bell thrice>Benweth is still in his quarters in full force when I arrive there>reload the game>go down to the docks>the ship is stolen>go back to Benweth>still there with all his bodyguardsWhat the hell is wrong with this game?
these redcap niggas are kinda annoying
>>493123548It wouldn't be a obisidian game without retarded bugs
>Can just slaughter the entire marketplace>Get none of the items>Lose access to a bunch of stores>I spent 800k here in metamagic rods, the sword that lets you smite neutral and some other shit and I still can't even remotely deplete stocksSigh they will live, for now. Is there something that makes your party immune to the horrid wiltings? Last stand just pops up but wondering if there's anything better
favorite item descriptions?
>>493124114Apparently it's not a bug, I've found a solution to this quest online. You have to actually return to the guy to came up with the plan even though he knows exactly what you're supposed to do. The same guy who wants to steal the ship after sounding the bell alarm. That doesn't make sense.
>>493120754what specifically don't you understand?they way it works? or how to get an optimized result?you have two types of "active" abilities>phrasesneed to be arranged into chants (see picrel)then you can select one of pre-arranged chants to runwhenever a phrase is finished on the current run it accumulates a class specific resource that can be spent on invocations>invocationsthese are basically like any other active abilityessentially spells that use up a class specific resource
>>493098848>LoreYes, since the game has the Elder Scrolls type of shit going for it where you gain levels the more you use it and Lore having the most checks, it's smart to spec into it despite everything.>Magic with meleeI genuinely don't know if it can be done. >>493123548You unironically went the worst route. Bombing him is by far the easiest and funniest.
>>493119967>le evil midget says it so it must be truereddit
>>493124819Winged Blight mogs this trash.
>>493124819>palatranny nonsensenot reading
>>493119967correct, neutral good is the only good alignment
>>493124463>Is there something that makes your party immune to the horrid wiltings?I don't think so, just pass the Fortitude check for half damage. It's like 50 a pop, it's not THAT much, have your casters use False Life and False life greater, that should give you a buffer.
>I don't understand how chanter works
the truth ischanter doesn't work
>>493117592Yes, you'll be crying for mercy about every 5 minutes (talking doesn't count)
>>493125548It has been a while, but wasn't the quest progression you clear out the ship, go back and tell him you cleared the ship so he can get it ready and you then go ring the bell to signal that they should sail. I can't remember it being strange at all when I did it.
I honestly don't understand how anything in pillars works I haven't started playing it and I have both of them installed
>>493129597It's a more watered down (better) DnD system, there's not much to learn. Maybe with Deadfire with how Overpen and Grazes work but all you need to do is just read. Oh and the weird buff system as well.
>>493129761>all you need to do is just readimpossible
Can the stat-boosting Manuals you get in Varnhold's Lot be carried over to the main game somehow or should I just use them all now?
>>493129597Start on normal difficulty and just play it. If you have any CRPG experience at all, I think you will figure it out.
>>493129417Perhaps, but the ship is just gone after you sound the alarm regardless. Doing as you said, as I'd found on the internet, has progressed the quest properly.
>>493098848you can play the game being dumb brute enforcer type character lore is essential only purely for meta narrative purposes even playing as pure archer (one of the most weakest classesein tyranny) can be fun if you stopped meta gaming
FUCK do I really have to wait 6+ months for the 2nd RT DLC to finally replay it? I hate owlcat most of the time. JUST MAKE POST GAME EXPANSIONS REEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
>think its gonna be a minor dispute over the keep that I can do during act 2>Actually your going to war and need support from a WM character and a character later in the main quest>also there isn't a time limit but I phrase it like there is
>>493131154>JUST MAKE POST GAME EXPANSIONS REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEYeah, that worked swimmingly for WOTR didn't it. Though it does feel weird getting DLCs running with the game since it's like a missing piece that they held back to sell to you which feels worse with RT considering how barebones it can feel at times.
>>493131432They can make it work, they're just retarded and have a loveboner for shitty dlcs. ToB was amazing and it was an expansion, why can't they just do that?
>>493130707I guess you did a sequence break in the quest they didn't account for.
>>493120754I'd just ignore PoE in general. You're life will be much better, trust me.
>>493132881Please play Chris Wilson's game...
>>493131432they didn't make a post game expansion they made a 5 minutes before the end of the game expansion
>>493093759>includes games like fucking black guards in list of CRPGs then throws absolute bitch fit when people say text based games like VTM PoK , VTM NR ,vagrus and omen exitio are also CRPGs
>>493116276Old news, also pretty sure it's fake
it's so weird to me that BG1 showed that cannons exist but they're NEVER seen again in any IE game, did they even exist in the lore of 2e FR?
>>493135741I don't think even PF has it despite having guns. I guess they just forgot?
>>493133663I tried, but I'm married to Titan Quest and Grim Dawn
>Immediately kill Flemeth the moment the opportunity comes up>Shale and Morrigan still act as if we're still planning itVery cool.
>>493132280It'd seem so. Very disappointing and frustrating however.
>>493135741Yeah, Gond taught people how to make effective firearms during the time of troubles and they started spreading all over the sword coast.
>>493135741there's a knigga with a blunderbuss in the FR Adventures book from 1990
>>493128326On unfair if you fail it's 150. The only character I have that can comfortably succeed is my mc the rest just take the L. Either way I just win the fight, it's more important to just kill the daemons than everything else there they're just inconveniently spread out so you can't just hit all 3 at once
>>493139743Oh and having daeran cast mass heal lvl 8 is pretty relevant here I've found but I didn't bring him so kinda taking extra Ls there
What do I name it?
>>493140691poopenfarten
>>493140691Fag's Landing
>>493140691westfallen
>>493140691Is this the Cannibal island or the Xaurip one? Either way, name it whatever, it never really comes up. Also whack that there's still unnamed islands despite the entire area being lived in for like a thousand years.
>>493140691cumrag
>Alistair actually kisses (You) if you decide to be a fence sitting whore that can't decideWhy can't RPG women be like this...
>>493140691The Elder Scrolls V: Skyrim
Marazhai inside me when
Now that Pozzmarine 2 flopped I expect Rogue Turder DLCs to flop even harder.
>>493145421How are they even related. Also is that IGN?
>hOw ArE 40kIdS gAmEs ReLaTeD
>>493120572ah it being combat only kills it for me, no way im going through that tedium. I still feel like there has to be a Magic Deceiver Legend build somewhere but I havent put it together yet
I should've known, that was my mistake.
>>493145863Uhh I'm reading its only outside of combat I'm not using that deceiver spec though I'm using the one that gives a -4 to saves at lvl 20
I accept your seethful concession.
Where did Froggy go for the last few threads though? Been a while since we had the usual melty.
>>493146272My bet is he's playing total war wh3 since the game got an excellent update
>>493119349
>*vomits*
>>493146537damn really, is it worth checking out now
Is this a Redoran general?
>>493147164I mean I like the game with or without that personal choice. They gave significant improvements to ai recruitment and building priority
>>493146537>Still can't torrent TW3 anywhereHm.>>493147201>Someone said something mean to me, please make them say sorry or kill themAll the houses suck.
>>493147201not a crpg
>>493147201always telvanni
>>493147648Yes, it is. Your worthless dogshit opinion is irrelevant.
>>493147969SHE LOOKS LIKE SHE FUCKS HUMAN MEN
>>493145619By the power granted to me by Google I thereby proclaim it is indeed PC Gamer and not IGN
>>493145421>caring for space marines Lmao never, all I want is my Drukhari prince
Is Sawyer right about romance in RPGs?
Is a Brown Fur worth it in a predominantly caster party?
>>493149253Sawyer is right about literally everything.
>>493149253nohe just hates romance because he is a hack who can't write
>>493149253yescam is the only exception to the rule
>>493149253Yes and no, you could say that it is a balanced subject.
>>493149972>they're not even trying to hide that Bellara is a Nenio ripoffUghhh, based?
>other games have succubi and magic casters dominate/use status affects on party members>in pillars there are still status mages but its the fucking plants you have to look out for.Fuck those three spores on lvl 11 of the endless paths, I got in this hell cycle of eder and pallegina smacking it and then getting dommed and attacking each other while sagani sits in the backline slowly wearing it down, and if both got dommed I had to micro sagani so she wouldn't get smacked by the annihilating overbearing greatsword
>>493149972>assassin gig like a 9-5greyborbros? We're back
>>493149253>Is Sawyer right about X in RPGs?yes
>>493149253It's ironic how Deadfire's and Tyranny's relationships ended up being everything he criticized RPG romances as being. It's like he's critiquing himself and projecting it across the whole genre. Generally speaking, I don't like Sawyer's approach to characters. I don't find them interesting and I don't feel that much of a connection to them. Sawyer's autism has always always been world building, and without someone like Avellone and Cain to reign him, his games end up being too cold and "souless," with way too many lore dumps. Sawyer builds a great world, but doesn't know how to make you care about it or its characters.
>>493149972I miss when people wore plate armor in dragon age
>>493149253>romance in RPGs
>>493145041Same
>>493149972>only kind and professional companions are the two whites
>>493150478>Sawyer builds a great worldLike NV and uh
>>493149972It still looks like a questionable game but I'm at least glad they cut out all the open world stuff that made me dislike Inquisition
>>493151053And PoE - the best CRPG ever made.
>>493151032>twoThere's only one huwhite there
>>493150478>Sawyer builds a great world, but doesn't know how to make you care about it or its characters.you know now that I think about it Sawyer and Swen are pretty much polar opposites in everything.One focuses on balanced mechanical systems, the other focuses on unbalanced, sandbox like systems.One is good at interesting worlds at the expense of boring characters, the other is good at interesting characters at the expense of worlds that don't make much sense.
>>493151053>A genuine retard manages to unite so many tribes that it becomes a threat to notAmerica>inb4 brain tumour
>>493150478Characters and quests are the most important parts of most RPG writing to me. The game can have excellent lore, but if it fails in these two aspects, then the writing will be a bore.
>Time is not your enemy. Forever is.Sawyer is mentally incapable of reaching this level of kino.
>>493151379I don't think Caesar was ever a threat to the NCR. He's certainly a threat to the Mojave, but if he went after the greater NCR, he'd get his shit slapped down hard. If the NCR falls, it will be to its own shitty domestic policies and resource issues, not Caesar.
>>493150221honestly PoE is one of the few games where if you think you are getting screwed over it means you should take a pause and think what tools are you might be forgetting about
>>493151950If you let Avellone run free, you end up with too much navel gazing. The game would also perpetually shit on every decision you made.
>>493150478>never experienced any deadfire romance because I agree with sawyerI personally wouldn't know
>>493152183I am also only lvl 8 So I could be making this harder than it has to be
>>493150478Tyranny didn't even have romances though. You can have a fling with either Verse or Barik and it's hyper specific. You can fuck the filthy beastwoman though when the prompt comes up.
>>493150478>It's ironic how Deadfire's and Tyranny's relationships ended up being everything he criticized RPG romances as being. It's like he's critiquing himself and projecting it across the whole genre.Still better than Bethesda's romances.
>>493152420some of these are available early onthey don't make you immune but you can buff defenses so much you basically don't have to worry about it
>>493152526Does Bethesda really even have on aside from that Khajiit in Morrowind? No Serana does not count, no I don't care you're using SDA.
>>493152526Because they don't even try. Emil admitted as much in his infamous GDC lecture. They don't see the point. Their retarded playerbase has the attention span of a gnat and gets upset when there's more than 2 lines of dialogue. Most of them would run around killing everything if they didn't slap an essential tag on half the NPCs
>>493150478I think it's funny when people complain about the descriptive text being too long in Pillars when you voted for it.
>>493153295They listened too hard to the people initially giving feedback.Didn't they really fuck up the difficulty at first because all the feedback they were getting were from munchkin powergamers?
>>493153295>you voted for iti did? when?
>>493153705For POE? Don't recall, but I know that Neketaka broke the leveling so badly that you can just do talking quests and leave the place at around level 10, horribly fucking up the progress. You can almost get by to level 9 now.
>>493149253They're not necessary but are an added value if present.
>>493153295It's too long because it's bad. It wouldn't be too long if it was good (like PST).
>>493149253What's with the pedostache?
>>493154021What were they thinking with that UI?
>>493153295The Codex's review summed up PoE's descriptive text best:>Pillars of Eternity also champions the new wave of RPG dialogue writing that uses desaturated, descriptive text in between a character's sentences to describe the scene, the mood or the appearance of the character.>Paradoxically, the fact that the developers have chosen to desaturate the colors of this descriptive text show that somewhere, deep down, they realize its extraneousness. As much as it must pain writers who had their initial inspiration and experience from the world of books, we are reading dialogue in a video game here, not a novel. What the characters say is meant to convey the emotion and poignancy of the scene. Simply describing facial expressions and emotional states is akin to a movie using voice-over to explain the innermost thoughts of its characters. Even when David Lynch does it, it rarely, if ever, works.>There is a place for this kind of stage-setting, but only if it used for a specific purpose - to characterize an important trait of a character or draw the player's attention to a specific circumstance. All too often, however, Pillars of Eternity and other, modern RPGs use the gimmick merely for fluff, filling the dialogue with a needless abundance of wordiness that players quickly learn to gloss over. In the end, the desaturation of the descriptive text becomes a convenient measure for players to quickly skip over reading it and, more often than not, nothing is lost as a result.>Planescape: Torment had a lot of descriptive text because everyone you met was a weird demon/angel hybrid with hollow space-eyes that held the cosmic horrors of the endless planes. It also did not color the text differently, because when it was used, it was just as important as the dialogue. Do I really need an essay to describe how a Dyrwoodan hobo chews his food before he spouts what might be a relevant line of dialogue?
>>493154264Wanted to make it look modern but still have the paper feel, but ended up doing the worst decisions for both.
>>493154264They were thinking about making kino and it worked.
I just hate how 'romance' is the only possible meaningful relationship game writers can come up with.It reeks of shut-in social strugglers who've never had a deep bond with a friend, or a really rewarding mentor/mentee situation that doesn't have even a whiff of romantic tension, etc. So many infinite possibilities with rich depth, and the only thing they can do is "hurr durr smoochy dollies"
>>493150478>Sawyer builds a great world, but doesn't know how to make you care about it or its characters.>>The main problem with the setting is that Pillars of Eternity is so concerned with delivering its heavy lore that most characters do not act like characters but rather deliver their lines much like walking Wikipedia articles. After playing Pillars of Eternity for a while, you start to dread clicking the 'Talk' icon hovering over random NPCs, because all too often, initiating dialogue is functionally identical to clicking hyperlinks on everyone's favorite, digital encyclopedia.>>The odd part is that the lore of Pillars is deliberate genuinely different than that of most fantasy worlds and at times even fascinating. What makes it all fall apart is not the substance, but the delivery. Immersion in deep lore comes through context and meaning, not by a look-up in the in game character-equivalent of a campaign-setting book.>>A good contrast to the majority of the core game's writing is Durance. This gruff, sullen priest companion is an aggressive spin on Planescape: Torment's more reclined, crisis-of-faith character 'Dak’kon'. Durance exemplifies how to handle lore dumps in an engaging way. He is a passionate, engaged bullshitter whose story tells us everything about the Dyrwood without resorting to massive blocks of text with nothing but exposition. Instead of telling us literal facts about the setting like "Dyrwood is very independent and because of all the hardships its inhabitants are very driven and nationalist folk", we implicitly learn the lore of the region through Durance's teachings and the tall tales he tells. The stories Durance tells are themselves engaging; the lore we pick up on the way is merely incidental.
>>493155095>>While we may be inclined to be lenient towards Pillars' task here – explaining such a vast body of lore through short bursts of text – consider how Planescape: Torment had a much more confusing, lore-heavy world, yet most of what we know of Sigil, we are told through its characters acting, behaving and being themselves. Our knowledge of the Mercykillers is not derived from Vhailor's 6-page rant about the structure of the order, but through debating its principles with him. We know of the Sensates not because we read the Codex entry in our journal, but because we go to the Sensorium and delve into the sensory stones. We come to understand the ideology of these factions because we experience their fundamentals for ourselves rather than having it explained to us through meager description. To prove this is not simply the famous rose-tinted glasses talking, there are actually exceptions. The Harmonium, a faction you may not even remember despite playing Torment, make up a rare example of Torment faltering, leaning on dry description to explain their place in Sigil.>>But mostly, Torment is more elegant than this. We know that Dak'kon doubts himself not because he tells us "Oh by the way, protagonist, I currently have a crisis of faith" but because we slowly come to that realization ourselves by talking to him and experiencing the increasing fragility with which he describes the teachings of Zerthimon, until he finally reveals to us that we have surpassed his own understanding.>>Even Edér, who so frequently receives praise for being well-written in comparison to other companions in Pillars of Eternity, often downrights tells us about his core emotions outright, rather than just letting that show through his stories about his brother.
>>493155095>The odd part is that the lore of Pillars is deliberate genuinely different than that of most fantasy worlds and at times even fascinatingUnfortunately, you're in probably the lamest place in the setting. That sucked
>>493155037Some of the best RPG relationships have been bromances.
Do we really need to discuss Sawyer's takes every single thread? It feels like I'm stuck in a time loop.
>>493154313>>493155095>>493155302>posting the codex unironically
>>493155845It's a good review, and old Codex was based, not like it's modern incarnation.
>Sawyer
>>493146091You have two abilities that reset cooldowns, one you get at level 4 and the other is your capstone. The one you get at level 4 is limited to 1 use every 4 levels and can only be used once per rest, while your capstone is unlimited, but can only be used in combat. I thought you meant your capstone
>>493155721I hate the word 'bromance'It can't even be a sincere bond, the very name needs some kind of joke to it to be palatable to western menIt reminds me of Adam Sandler or something very 90s and so homophobic that having a friend encroaches on being gay, so some levity must be introduced. "Huh yeah dude, got a real bromance here". It's pathetic,
>hits you with 6 pages of descriptive text about bell chimes>says only one sentence at the end of it
>>493155820>Do we really need to discuss Sawyer's takes every single thread?Of course. After all, he's solved RPG system design.
>>493156379Male friendships are homoerotic. Nothing gay about that, faggot.
>>493156379nothing wrong with homophobia
>>493156379Men would sooner kill a man than admit that they do genuinely care about another man. Everything needs to be parsed through sarcasm and bitterness.
>take level in Titan Fighter>dual wield staves that boost caster level or DCsthat's hot
>>493156821>people use it for that instead of dual wielding two fuckhueg swords because it needs a lot of investment if you want to hit anything with itGood fucking job.
When's the post-game Areelu marriage expansion coming out?
>>493153295>we voted for it to be descriptive but good!lol>>493154313>>493155095>>493155302There were some dialog comparison screenshots in the previous thread, and I'll make the same claim againPST uses simple words, it's easy and fast to read throughPoE uses less common words, so I slow down frequently when reading through PoE descriptions and dialogsthat's itthat's why people say PST descriptive writing is betterkeep it simple
>>493156394That's some really nice art of GM. Cute!
>>493155037it remind me of how despite romancing him I realized I like Astarion way more as a friend felt way more genuine
>>493156093Nah as usual they relly have no idea what they are talking aboutthis piece alone has several conflicting ideasfor instance>PoE writing has too much!>Eder getting to the point [which is related to what kind of character he is btw] is bad!>we should have had several chapters worth of reading to see how he feels through stories about his brother!
>what do you think of pallegina?>cloacawhy is he like this
Just finished Rogue Trader, what did I think of it?
>>493158338Not enough Tau
>>493156394I couldn't believe her character introduction. It seemed like it would be wrapping up, getting to the important bit, just to go into another extraneous detail. On and on it went, 90% of it feeling like window dressing. I don't mind wordiness. I read through Planescape and thoroughly enjoyed it. I read the codex entries in Mass Effect. I read Butcher of Ark in Enderal in a few sittings, and that had literally over 100 pages of text. What made those worth reading was their importance to the lore, the story, and the characters. The text didn't feel like just set dressing.
>>493158260To be fair, one gets curious.>>493158338That it needed more time and that Chaos should've been more involved by the end. Uralon dies with his chicken and they just go poof.
>>493158338not enough companion interactions, they stop saying stuff halfway through the game and then randomly interject one line 2 hours later in the main plot
>>493158504>I read Butcher of Ark in EnderalWhy
>>493157875He's complaining about superfluous descriptive text, not too much writing overall. It is possible to have too much of one type of text and not enough of another.
>>493158260He got me thinking thinks I'd never thinked I'd think.
>>493158528thats fair but all of his ruminations on other companions can be summed up as "would fuck" except durance who he just thinks is funny
>>493158595>not enough companion interactionsYeah, act 1 and 2 were great and it felt like the choice of companions actually had some more consequences with how quests would go, like having Cassia telling you when someone might be lying, or Idira warning you before an ambush.
>>493159108Dedicated horny character, please understand. It's basically Serafen if he wasn't seething about slavery.
>>493158706It has very important story details concerning the veiled woman, the Rhalâta, dreams and the dreamflower, fleshlessness, the mindfuck opening, your character's condition, and so on. It adds a lot of context to a few of the characters and organization you meet in game. It ties in very well with the themes and plot of the main game. I admit that I did skip it over at first though.
>>493159159Or iirc when you get cassia and idira double teaming on a guy saying he's sketchy as fuck. Abelard also stops introducing you halfway through i think too and thats a crime, I don't care if we are in space elf hell you are gonna give a proper introduction to these xenos
>>493159375>dedicated horny character I thought that was durance
>>493159601>Abelard also stops introducing you halfway through i think too and thats a crimeYeah this is the worst, it's such a meme that people latched on to it and he just stops. Can you even do that when you meet Calligos and Incendia? I don't recall but he was there right?
>>493159601>Abelard also stops introducing you halfway through i think too and thats a crimeYeah, that was super weird. I was expecting that to be a running gag and it was one of the reasons why I always kept Abelard as part of the core team.
>>493159868>tfw no introduction for the c'than shard
Cassia was cute at least.
>>493160058I know they buffed Pyro recently, but my dude just killed it in 1 with melting beam. That shit was dealing like 2500 damage a pop. Maybe I should have put the game on Unfair.
>rogue tranny flopped so hard owltranimals are in panic mode trying to squeeze the last shekels out of WotRKek.
>>493160551Shame that it has a health threshold though but it'd really just die in a turn or two with a decent build.
>>493161227total wotr victory
>>493161498Yeah, my buld wasn't even that good. I went Operative into Bounty hunter because I thought I'd be able to deal the most long range damage that way, but it turns out a soldier into arch militant would have been better for ranged damage, or warrior into assassin for melee. I was still finishing every combat in 1 round, I had to stop abusing Heroic actions to have even a semblance of challenge.
>>493161612I don't like wotr. too much prebuffing
>>493161957
>>493161957>Spend 2 minutes prebuffing>Fight lasts 10 secondsHahahahahaha
>>493158769we could argue semantics of "superfluous" without endhowever you have to agree the author is imposing his personal taste on what kind of character should Eder be, and at the same time completely oblivious about itI rest my case, he doesn't know shit, D-K-effect-dex strikes again
>>493161957I rarely pre-buff and play on Core.
>Tides of numenera was made in the infinity engineWhy weren't any other crpgs (other than pillars obvious) made in it?
>>493162565>>Tides of numenera was made in the infinity engine
>>493162565It's Unity, not Infinity Engine.
>>493162724I dunno I just vaguely remember hearing that they used pillars as a base when making it
>>493164506Both Pillars and Tyranny are in Unity. They built Tyranny on the work done in Unity for PoE.
>>493165034>They built Tyrannymeant Numenera
>>493164506Just stop posting, retard.
starrok hinting that the upcoming wotr dlc might be a crossover type thing.What do you think?- RT- One of the titles they're publishing?- Quest for Glory?- Friends: The CRPG?
>>493165750>wotr dlc might be a crossover type thing.Is this a fucking gacha? Watch it be Starfinder
>>493165750Avowed
>getting storylocked cockblocked on lvl 14 of the endless paths.guess its time to explore as much of the world as I can before I go into the catacombs of defiance bay. Do some bounty hunting I guess
>>493165750 has to be something they can get the rights on without conflicts of property so >>493165913
>>493166319Does that count as 'another IP'? Because I'm seeing:>It's a collaboration with another IP.Also thank god:>It's not related to Warhammer.
>you habe found the funny scroll now toss it away because I said sofuck off wael
>>493149794>cam is the only exception to the ruleVerily
>>493152183Yeah, even Sagani's dog is useful when you realize it's very good at kiting enemies into traps.
>>493147106Man, and Mira was such a babe.>>493152504>You can fuck the filthy beastwomanWait, what? I didn't get this! WHY DIDN"T I GET THIS?!
>>493169759If you have the DLC and travel from place to place, you'll get a written scene where the group finds a bush with aphrodisiac berries. You can offer it to everyone, and yes even to Sirin, but everyone will refuse except for for the Beastwoman, who will proceed to have sex with you. This encounter happens multiple times and has no real bearing with the story.
>>493169096>taking the rough edges off a fucking dwarfdisgusting
>>493149253I don't know, what did he say
>>493165750>upcoming wotr dlcDidn't they say they were done with WOTR after the last DLC?
>>493171709cam wills it
>>493160551Sanctic was the way to do this when I played the game
>>493169991>DLCWell shit. I guess paradox is getting more of my money. Looks like I've going to have to replay the game during the next sale.
>>493169991>but everyone will refuse I think Eb and Verse are ok with it as well as long as you don't have too much fear with them
>>493173871The first one is fine since it adds more stuff that should've been in. Bastard's Wound is pretty bad though.>>493175371I've never gotten Verse to trigger and iirc you can only have sex with her via a tent somewhere.
Since Ulfar is in Space Marine 2, it's canon that he survives RT.
>>493179282>Didn't turn into a dreddHmmm... I guess that's fine.
>>493179282You have any fucking clue how many Ulfars there are in the Space Wolves? Literally thousands.
>>493179282Literally dies in introTotal Froggy Victory
>>493180859Same Voice Actor
>>493180951Rip
>>493172662Just redid the fight on Unfair and it was the same thing, I just had Cass debuff it to hell with her castigating staff, it went from 21k HP to 11k, then Jimmy just slapped it with his sword until it died, it didn't even get a full turn.
>>493180951Froggy, comments?
Is.. is eder trying to woo Iselmyr?
>>493183498He kinda does yes. Iirc, he gets sad when she gets fully suppressed and is the only one to do so.
>>493149253After Icewind Dale 2 this guy should not be an authority on CRPG game design by any stretch of the imagination.
>>493183653I'm trying to push eder to accept her and work with her because two personalities working in unison to achieve their goals is kino
>>493156821You know that's funny because that's what I did with my feats on bg3, dual wield sticks>other shite not that it matters. I still don't have a stick worth doing that for rn though
>>493150478Tyranny would actually be better if it had any romances verse literally used to mock you in the base game if you confessed to her that you had feelings for her
>>493188617You don't have much options there>Verse>Barik (but he's very stinky up until the final part and you need to do specific things)>Sirin is underage I think>Eb is a hag>Lantry is too old>KiS is a meme
>>493188836the PC should have been romance fellow fatebinders plus each faction could have had a romanceable character for example bariks boss is a pretty good RO option for disfavored maybe if you're siding with the rebels maybe the PC could romance the rebel leader sybil or maybe they should have let you romance some villager or some nobleman like the one you meet in tunons courtliterally any other option is better other current romances with verse or barik
>>493156821Hm I think the only stick combo worth considering that as a dip for is sin mage staff+war mage staff which gives you +3 caster lvl +1 to dcs and I assume +6 enhancement int which isn't relevant. I still don't have that dlc stick although you wouldn't do this on classes that care about their capstone
I didn't play a single role today
Damn. Backstab sucks in pillars of eternity because after act 1 enemies almost always detect your rogue before he can get close enough to stab them. And If I put points into stealth that means I'm not putting points into mechanics
>>493188836>Sirin is underage I thinkWe've had one of those already lmao
1-5 roll pc wizard for poe 1 and 2 first time playing6-0 roll pc cipher for poe 1 and 2 first time playing
>>493195595Any choice is fine but two things.1. You meet a wizard companion really early. This isn't necessarily a problem, as you can specialize your spellbooks in different ways. 2. You re-roll your character even if you import your decisions from 1 into 2. You can create the same character, but you can also multiclass. You must choose this at the beginning, and it's only two classes. But, just to say, you might end up slightly altering your character at the start of 2.Personally, I'd say go against the SAGE wisdom of the Post Number gods and go cipher.
my all-good salvation angel cleric of sarenare run was going great, but i am still a man, and i love her and will do anything for her
>>493198595>its okay because she gives good headWEAK
>>493198952indeed there's also her ravenous libido and she shanks me in a church later which sends me to the moon
>>493198952>putting you penis anywhere near Cammy's mouthReckless.
Does WotR allow throwing shit like BG3?
crpgs where I can start a family with a nice lawful good girl?
>>493203805Not really. There are explosive jars and acid jars, but they pretty much suck. There's a class that gets bombs too, but no you can't toss junk from your inventory around.
>>493204076Is there a class that gets to throw people?
>>493204434No. You can force punch people around, and if you aim them at a pit they don't get to save for going in. So if pushing people into pits is your thing, that's an option.
Why is everyone from Baldur's Gate 3 horny? Normal people don't act like this.
>>493204034Chaotic good in wotr
>>493204034for me, its chaotic neutral girls. .t coran
>>493198595Cute
>>493212960>BG1: here's a gold-digging slut party member, enjoy>SOD: ummm no actually she's a strong independent and sexually free woman>BG2: here's the gold-digging slut party member turning against you, enjoy
>>493219303its almost like SOD was made decades later
>>493206421game's not catering to normal people
But you're both wrong
Huh aeons bound of possibility is pretty good
after wm1 I am NEVER scaling an area to my level ever again. I think that one dragon is unkillable and the bounties took a couple dozen tries and now I'm stuck at the forge but if its the last thing I do I'll beat this stupid dwarven fortress
>>493225728I did it All I had to do was shank the dwarf ghosts and have aloth spam slows/stops on the golems while durance buffed and healed. things got a bit dicey but I finally pulled through fuck. Now I'm gonna go to a lower level area and terrorize some bounties to cool of
why is wotr character creation ass-backwards?
Want to do BG1 and import character to BG2, Berserker/Mage but which proficiencies to take? I remember some OP flails and Warhammers in BG2 but I will probably give them to other characters. I know that katana is good in BG2 but it's shit in BG1 and I will play on insane difficulty. I was thinking of maybe going for long swords or even quarterstaff GM (staff of the magi later).
>>493228485i dont remember
>>493228485quatersraffs are a solid choice if you aren't giving them to jaheria
>>493228485Greatsword or halberd for instakills with the Silver Sword or RavagerA mage with a big weapon looks cooler anyways
>>493228642>Silver Sword>allows a saveIt's shit. The correct answer is battleaxe for the Axe of the Unyielding.
Froggy's pet 'Nid gutted Ulfar in Goy Marine 2.Froggy's pet 'Nid went into the grace laughing as he wiped out and humiliated the Owltranimal yiff spawn.Who's next? Will Mechanicus 2 feature Froggy's pet Necron deathmark blow Pasqal's head off in mechanicus 2 prologue?Maybe his pet Keeper of Secrets eats Yrliet in the Total War 40K prologue lelel
>>493237618Into the grave*
Man, I fucking want a Numeria pathfinder game...
>>493093759Need some rpg recommendations that fit these specific needs>Released after 2001 and playable on modern windows>Available on GOG and has support for 16:9 resolutions out of the box without requiring mods>Lets you create the character or has a white male preset character>Has heterosexual romance options and preferably as little faggotry and blacks as possible>Preferably with fun gameplay that has a lot of depth and a bunch of theorycrafting
>>493228642>A mage with a big weapon looks cooler anywaysBasedI love the idea of casters with halberds/spears.Blame the chick from The Banner Saga.
>GOG
>>493239163nothing that wont trigger you
>>493239163KOTOR2 hits all of those except the last one
>>493239163No such thing, crpg is gay genre now, just play old games with wide screen mods.
Avowed will save the CRPG genre.
>CRPG renaissance
Cam is rotting in my basement btw
>>493239658Froggy how do you feel about Ulfar canonically getting slaughtered by space bugs in Space Marine 2 prologue?
>>493245536Is it actually confirmed it's the same Ulfar? Maybe it's just a coincidence?
Me and my autistic wife
>>493245884Same voice actor and way of speaking.Plus he was a lone Space Wolf in Deathwatch, could be that Ulfar joined due to losing his pack.
>>493246787Just watched it. Most likely it's an intended cameo, too many coincidences for it to not be: same voice actor, same name, same chapter.I guess rogue tranny flopped so hard GW issued a special order to portray owltranimal OC as a fucking useless jobber, kek.
>>493242221>canon female mcmight as well just play any other game and mod out the stuff he doesnt like at that point
>>493228485Doing a lvl 7 fighter save with enough xp to go to lvl 8 and then collecting all the tomes by then lets you make a lvl 8 fighter export with all the tomes, then you can go back to lvl 7 and dual and use the tomes where they're most relevant for the playthrough. Lets you get to 9 or 13 fighter for the extra apr on the sequel
Kibellah page: https://roguetrader.owlcat.games/news/en/41
>>493249326She sounds proper insane, can't wait
Watching the pozzmarine 2 walkthrough reminds me of how infantile the entire setting is. It's full of artificial pathos that only literal, unironic 12-year old hypebeasts or mentally stunted manchildren can fall for. Not even a shred of nuance or in-setting introspection. Pure undiluted fucking dogshit for retarded subhumans.
>>493249874>the cards speak the will of the undying one and reveal the names of those who must departShe's basically the second Camellia.
>>493251649Every other RTranny character is a Camellia
>>493239163Dragon age 2
>>493226212Well done!Yeah, that feeling of finally overcoming can feel good or it can not feel worth it at all. I'm not sure what the trick is to distinguishing the two, I've felt both.
>>493251649Well duh, Owlcat makes CRPGs (Camellia Role Playing Games)
What roles are we all playing on our computers today, fellows of /crpgg/?
>>493255174im playing pillars of eternity 2 saving up for a powerful warship ironically called a junk!
>>493255627Galleons are cooler
>>493255174Pillars of Eternity. Just completed chapter 1 got into Defiance Bay and am just looking around. I'm enjoying it so far to my surprise with all the hate it gets I thought I would drop it pretty quickly.
>>493255884they dont have a funny name thoughand they're cheaper which means worse
>>493255174Captain of The Defiant.
>>493255174none, I just post here
>>493255174About to get cl25 with one of the dlc items no more recasting haste and some other cuckshit soon tm
>>493248584You should know better than to treat anything written after-the-fact as canon. KOTOR2 is very careful not to force any kind of canon, even with regards to KOTOR1's outcomes or characters.
>>493248584>>493259756The Exile was Revan's cocksleeve. Deal with it
>>493259902>I was my own cocksleeveselfinsert chads why do we keep losing
>>493251438>40gay
>>493255174dovakhiin the saviour of Skyrim and husband of Lydia and 2 children
cRPGs for this feel?
>>493261957>of LydiaYou meant Serana, right?>>493262338Planescape: Torment.
>start a playthrough of an RPG>create character>go through the tutorial level and arrive in the tutorial town>realize after a few hours how I missed out on a lot of experience, because I didn't pick certain skills at the start, which would have paid for themselves by now>restart>get familiar with my companions>realize my favourite companion and I share the same class>restart>don't like the new class I picked>restart>restart>restart>restartThis is how I play cRPGs.
>>493255174back to IWD, wish me luck bros, think I fucked up the fighter/mage
>>493263121>realize some dialogue option I picked five hours ago doesn't actually mesh well with the character in my head>reload
The next and maybe last dlc (free) for WotR has been revealed.https://store.steampowered.com/app/3116830/Pathfinder_Wrath_of_the_Righteous__Visitors_from_Morta/It's some crossover with a pixel art game.
>>493255174Grey Warden. Anyone who even tries to argue that DAOs combat is good is dead to me. Nostalgiafags truly must get the rope.
>>493255947I've learned to almost completely discount any second-hand opinions even if they seem overwhelmingly in agreement. Been bit by that with too many games
>>493263681Oh I saw that while browsing for stuff to pirate, didn't look worth the time. Is this the first CRPG crossover shit? Like a proper one and not just an easter egg?
>>493263224Why do you think you fucked up fighter/mage?
>>493256510>>493263121These don't seem like very fun roles to be q honest
>>493264131Seems so, haven't downloaded yet but looks like you play through a mini adventure as two of the characters from the morta game and their abilities from their game got added in via new archetypes for Wrath.
>>493263681>another DLC focused on literally whosLooks like shit.
>>493263121>get to the last chapter>get bored of my build>start over>never finish the gamethats me
>>493264165completely forgot they can't wear armor except that one you get from Shattered Hand way later
>>493263224>not 1 male and 5 femalesfaggot
What are the odds that the gold dragon update lets us redeem Camcam and finally get a happy ending with her
>>4932668810. Ember can push Nocticula to redeem herself, Camellia would likely just get her raped by dogs for her amusement.
>>493267005Cam's resolve is canonically stronger than Nocticula's, she's just that perfect
>>493262441>wifing a literal demon AIDs whore this nigga down bad
>>493263681this reeks of desperation
holy shit it's a crossover with [thing]
>>493266881Why are you so obsessed with trying to """fix""" that which is not broken? Maybe you should stop projecting your insecurities and learn to live with the qualities that you do have.
>>493267523At least it's free and is that a loli or just a really young looking womanlet race? They probably got paid for this lol
>>493267523literally who
UHHHHHHHHHHHHHH???????????
>>493267762>4 domainsThink of the hijinks!
>Guarded Hearth ability has returned to the previous version of bonus types - fixed;Does this mean that it's now sacred again?
>>493268220No, they changed it to sacred, so I assume the changed it back to competence.
>2 new archetypesThe fuck are they
>>493268352Wait do I remember wrong then? At release I am sure it was sacred and people claimed that it was too OP and they nerfed it to competence. Am I wrong?
>>493265923You don't really need it after stoneskin and other buffs. Just buff yourself, then equip armor and smash people. Or don't equip armor and pew pew enemies. If I remember correctly how it works anyway, that's what I did in BW2.
>BattleblissWooohoo time for the worst quest in the game
>>493268847Yes, it's been competence for the longest time, they changed it to sacred recently for some reason, and now, supposedly, is back to competence again. It's more OP as competence because you can stack touch of good on top of it for up to +10 to attack. I'm downloading the patch and will report back once I confirmed it, hopefully it won't brick my saves.
>Fixed an issue with kinetic blade, which prevented characters from making an attack of opportunity;Finally I can make a proper Kinetic Knight build.
>>493268725some shitty fighter and a witch that adds int modifier to damage on rays at lvl 20, making it fairly useless
>>493269112I mean base pathfinder version is sacred I don't see why they'd revert it but whatever
>>493269258I'm pretty sure it's sacred in kingmaker, and you could stack it with Linzi's song. It wasn't as egregious there because we didn't have impossible domain making clerics THE best buffers in the game, in terms of attack bonuses at least.
>16GB patchwaow
I thought WotR was complete.
>>493269223>Level 20 featWHEN WILL THEY EVER LEARNWhy didn't they just make a Mythic Feat allowing you to take those early.>>493269527Says who?
Why is it making me reload the entire game?
>>493269568in theory it could better than a draconic bloodline but as pure witch you can't convert hellfire ray to pure fire damage and you also play 90% of the game without the benefit of the additional dmg modifier
>>493269223>int modifier to damage on rays at lvl 20Whoopty fucking doo, at that point you can start slinging hellfire rays dealing more than 3000 damage per cast.
>start making wizardry 6 characters on my laptop>get three okay ones done>boot game desktop>characters aren't there
>>493269258Yep, it's back to competence, and the saves bonus is back to resistance as well.
>>493267661
>>493198595Why did you use Tristian’s portrait. Don’t put him with that beast
>>493273507uh oh tristroon about to get cucked
>>493273805I’ll give you a uh oh
>>493269062It's only good if you're playing trickster or shagging daeran. Or both
>>493267523What the fuck where did this pop out of
>>493266881Gold Dragon will get a Nocticula-exclusive romance.
>>493273507>>493198595Camellia deserves to be with someone who can match her spirit shut up, this is my crack ship
>homolole
>>493276625She already has one with demon.
>>493276656No im with Marzi, Cam gets the abandoned house
>>493277159*redeemed Nocticula romance
>>493276625Kys for posting that
>>493276625you already get areelu. stop being greedy>>493277159you're more of a bitchboy on the demon path.
Truly an ownage from which they never recovered
>immune to magic missilewhy is this allowed
>>493278317shield?
>>493277824>Absolutely reprehensible degenerate>Very definitely straight thoughtWhat did they mean by this?
>>493278954she's just a proper lady with 1 particular quirk
>>493277824>I like the feeling of a man inside meCan you romance her as a gnome or a halfling?
>>493279531>Pathfinder>RacelockingYes, there's nothing stopping her from taking that 2 inch pecker. This also make her sex scene nonsensical.
>>493279531>>493279770but what is a man, but a little, miserable pile of secrets?
>>493279770none of the romances take into account small races else they'd have to change all the descriptions that involve hugging or touching
>>493279531>>493279770Enlarge Person
>>493279770>>493280014The implication here is that manlet protagonists are not canon.
>>493280085I'm pretty sure even an Enlarged Halfling is still smaller than a regular Human.
halflings are so shaftedsmaller AND way less magical than gnomes
Gnome genocide best day of my life.
NOW IF YOU THINK """GNOMES""" - OR FUCKING GNIGGERS AS I LIKE TO CALL THEM - SHOULD BE ROUNDED UP AND DANGLED OFF THE END OF THE NEAREST TREE GIVE ME A HELL YEAH
my only exposure to gnomes is from regill and jubilost so i think they're based
But Regill is cool
Regill is an honorary 6'0.
>>493281376The armour he has has an extra 2 feet of heels so he's pretty tall.
anybody check the new archetypes?
>>493282002Fighter is a 20 % damage reduction on a number of hits if you're blocking with a shield and a cleave like ability and double damage capstoneWitch is meme scaled cantrips and a capstone that boosts ray damageBladebound was also buffed, with Blade getting the sword companion at lv 5 now and life drinker at lv 12 with a new capstone that boosts touch spell sword damage and Bloodseeker got a bunch of generic buffs to its spells and abilities
>>493277824She still romances you if you fuck Lann or Daeran, therefore she's absolutely into bi dick and will impale herself on Marzi at the first opportunity
>>493284584the lvl 5 "cleave" is auto hit so that's pretty cool, I wonder if you could a DR stacking multiclass build that was any good
>homo and a jobberlolmao
hate to say it but marazhai would destroy cam. she wouldn't be able to keep up. she can't even handle the demon city
>deldar fujos vs cam schizosah, prime entertainment
Cam would solo the entire 40kek cuckniverse being a lv20 mr10 spellcaster
>>493285102isn't she a frequent flier at the succubus brothel?
What's the comfiest location in any cRPG?
Marzipan would never kill me
>>493284824>Having sex with a man that fucked another man>This makes you biIt does not work like that. If anything, that'd make her one of those schizo "curing gayness" whores.
>>493285548yeah but not for sex
imagine not being a casteryikes
>>493286006Reporting is a shit job.
>>493285743or worse, a fujoshi>>493285102>Cam in the corner crying because she can't comprehend someone being more depraved than her
>3 years later>still seethinghow does cam do it. Will she ever stop winning
>want to try a dwarf ranger for dual axes>don't know what mythic path would fit for himMaybe demon to legend? I'd try Gold dragon but apparently that will get an update in a few months.
>>493287343yes. embrace the manlet rage and then free yourself from the manlet rage.
>>493286006How do you play rtwp as a non-devil caster? Don't you run out of spellslots gunning down mooks?
>>493286936She can't stop, she's cursed with victories for all eternity.
>>493286543She's hardly that depraved imo her sex is pretty vanilla
I know people love to bitch but I'm really happy with Owlcat as a company.
>>493287731I bet ember did that to her
>>493287640Honestly eventually you just cast your bullshit room clear and then whatevers alive gets mopped up
>Wild Hunt Archerso they filled the area with weak trash mobs to make you relax
>>493289702hope you paid the Blind Fight tax
>>493281227HELL YEAH
what's the earliest shield in through the ashes? i want to try it with the new fighter archetipe
>>493292107Uhh shrug I didn't play any class that would use a shield. What diff are you playing it on?
Did the resident schizo kill himself?
>mindbreaks Aruetards on release>years later continues by mindbreaking MaratroonsTruly a genre defying character and the progenitor of a new videogame genre, the Camellia Role Playing Game.
>>493292107I think there's a rotten shield on one of the zombies.
>>493294416no, but he's been having less melties in the past couple of threads. Mommy probably started mixing the pills into his tendies
>>493093887have they put Almalexia back in yet, I never got to check out the OG greater city they removed
Did you know rangers used to have an alignment restriction of any good in older editions of dnd? It was because they where forest loving hippies that protected nature, in BG they can kinda be seen as a druidic version of a paladin because they share the same xp table and similarly get holy (druidic in this case) spells way to late to ever be considered as spellcaster, though they technically still have spells. Rangers also share the fall mechanic of paladins where if your rep gets too low you loose all the benefits of being a ranger/paladin and become a shitty fighter
>>493294416He has posts in this thread I know he goes on the other thread for games I play but they're generally less autistic there
Jaethal won.
>>493294416Isn't he the one obsessively making these threads at like 730 replies so he can remove any game he doesn't like from the OP?
>>493295260>who would win a blind pacifist that gave up being an angel to be a human>or an undead bitch that has no qualms murdering people and has either killed or freezered her own daughter at this point so she can live longerGee I wonder. what happens in the house at the end of time if you get jaethal to pass on?
>>493294703
What's the point of being a Devil if you're just eternally cucked by Asmodeus?
>>493296174The mandatory gay-pride parades of Elysium give you the ick, so you decide to switch sides.
>>493296472Become a D(a)emon, then.
why can't I be a pure good fag from the start of wotr? you have to either suck angel or azata cock before unlocking gold dragon acts later.
>>493296620Gold Dragon works better as redemption kino. It's what the whole path is about.
>>493296620Angels are the pinnacle of Good. Dragons are literal monsters.
>>493294986>In short: The city of Almalexia is going to be one of the last steps of the project, so there are no finalized plans as of yet. An old version of the city is included in TR_Preview.esp, but we have not decided how much of that preview will be kept. We are going to completely reimplement Tribunal content when we get to that point.
>>493296814dragons are COOL
>>493297630Only Chromatics
>>493297627>We are going to completely reimplement Tribunal content when we get to that point.based autistsLooking forward to this in 2050
>>493297627Almalexia content is ass anyway but I do hope they try to make it make sense>Fucking goblins are stronger than Dremoras>>493294416He's still here, but not as dedicated
Using Cam’s remains as fertilizer. We need more crops for the troops
Fuck do I respec trever to?The only shit I don't have is a mutt warrior, a vivi, or a str oracle
>>493299154Canon.
THD
>>493300614When I tried this mod it was pretty unplayable and pointless was a few years ago
>>493300614So only 3 new cities? I guess asking for more Fighter's and Thieves guild stuff is pretty eh.
>>493301652>I guess asking for more Fighter's and Thieves guild stuff is pretty ehYou need to go back to Cyrodiil.
>>493301936No, I mean I do like them. Old Ebonheart's and really a good chunk of TR guild quests were nice.
Froggy what do you think of Magic Deceiver?
>>493300614who the fuck thought that more taxi destinations is what morrowind was lacking to be a good game?
>>493255947>all the hate it getsthat's all smoke and mirrorsit's well regarded outside of cuckdex and /vrpg/and for the later I'm pretty sure it's just two schizos and I suspect are also both cuckdex regularsthere is also a lone wolf who hate-posts about PoE in crpgg from time to time, who seems to be one of the vrpg schizos
>>493255174NIcholay the moonlordjust starting and it's bretty slow
>>493304905Not frog I've been playing it and its bugged to shitSpells that say they have no saving throw then get a saving throw when you link them with another spell that has no saving throwI keep hearing about combinations that bypass immunities when they shouldn'tThe class just isnt playable at low lvl at lvl 1 you start with 1 spell cast and then you're 1/2 bab xbow that won't hit bitch. You need abundant spells before you can do shit with it which also means you dont really have a choice but to pick itI think when they can fix the kinks if ever itll be a nice class to run. You can't quicken, you can't add persistent, your max spell lvl is 6 which means your dcs are lower the tradeoff being you can cast shit like mass baleful poly if you can get it to land
>wotr patch>can't launch, out of date mods>picking through the list, find the culprit>scaling cantrips>forgot i even had this mod installed, nbd, can it>game launches>save does noti'm getting cucked by an abandoned mod that I fucking forgot about. what are you guys up to?
>owlcat drops free dlc out of nowhereI SAY OWLCAT YOU SAY SORRYOWLCAT
>>493309279*pathfinder
>>493309279MALKAVIAN
>>493304905All owltranimal homebrew is either worthless dogshit or is OP. Magic Deceiver currently is OP due to bugs and if they fix it, it still has the potential to be OP due to how you can manipulate spell descriptors and stack mind-affecting DC bonuses on spell effects that are not mind-affecting in fused spells. These fucking retards have no idea what they're shitting out.
>>493301652>Thieves guildHlaalu us literally thieve's guild central, the new update is guaranteed to have new TG content AND will also add more content to Old Ebonheart which has the best TG questline currently. Thievechads are eating good.
>>493308878I got by the early game by spamming demoralize and light of the angel, sleep+color spray is also pretty OP early game because HDs are fairly low. Once you get your first mythic and grab abundant casting the character becomes really powerful. Your DCs are not lower either because there are a bunch of items that specifically boost the DC of fused spells, and before that you can turn all spells into enchantment for better gear synergy, so the lower DC from having max spell level of 6 is less noticeable.
>>493310581
>>493312891No you see this single player game must be perfectly balanced because despite being given a huge amount of both difficulty options and gameplay choices, my autism prevents me from using anything but the most broken builds.
>lemme just release this homebrew OP dogshit that shits on actual base classesFuck off. Learn how to make content that doesn't break the ruleset. Oh, wait, you can't, because you have no clue how the ruleset works lmao.
>>493310581Rich coming from someone abusing bugs in order to make his dogshit builds work.
So uhhh, how do you access the new wotr DLC? Is it chapter 3 exclusive?
The only dogshit here is the content of your skull. Magic Deceiver spell descriptors don't function as described in spell fusion, everything a normal caster uses works as described. Cope.
>>493309279>"Please shill our literalwho game" crossover DLC>Thank youSure
>>493314771Sorry sweaty, spell fusion is x10 more fun than whatever dogshit single-spell-spamming caster you could devise in that demented head of yours.
THANK God she didn't have an immunity to paralyze. I made some paralysis scrolls and already had aloth built to inflict statuses so I spammed them on her till it popped and had pallegina and CO whack her, and with that soulbound weapon that can also cause paralysis. Then I could have durance run tje usual buffs and have aloth on crowd control with mass paralysis and confusion
>>493315561I personally like just dropping Wall of Colors on her.
>single-spell>proper full arcane DC caster uses at least the entirety of two schools at peak efficiency without swapping gear>can stack 5 schools, if willing to swap gear and accept the fact that you will not get optimal metamagics and mythic abilities for all of themAn actual loreful full arcane caster will always have more variety through a much wider selection of spells.
best crpg for a human male fighter?
Always PoE - a RPG where fighters have the best selection of active abilities.
New fighter archetype is pretty good if you're running dual archetype nothing conflicts between it and mutt
>>493316218>Attack + debuff>Attack + debuff>AoE attackRiveting. Then again, martials never feel good in RTWP.
>>493315665I was only lvl 12
>>493316442i mean what else do you want from a fighter? the whole class is hit things with weapon
>>493306886No i don't think most people hate pillars. I just think most people think its incredibly uninteresting and boring.
>>493315940Daring are we? Short light brown hair and a 5-o'clock beard as well?
>>493317726>Charge move that bowls over anyone that's in the way>Counter move where you stand to either take the hit or parry it and attack>A long winded attack that deals massive damage>Throwing your weapon (this is admittedly stupid)>WhirlwindI know it's limited but they could at least be daring about it.
>best crpg for a halfling rogue? Best crpg for an elf archer? best crpg for a dwarf tank?
Is The new version of TR out yet?
>>493318172most of those are in the Divinity: OS games
>>493319302I know and it's also in Inquisition. I just feel like they're very limited and devs don't really bother expanding on it.
Could play Warrior on a wow vanilla pserver its about as many abilities i ever seen standard melee guy ever get but its not a crpg obviously
>>493317934You got me.
>>493319859>MMO>Tab targetMight as well mention an ARPG really.
>>493319879>flambergeBasatto
Are Doctor Disaster and Slandered Gaming the same person? Their voices sound extremely similar to me, they talk about the same games, they have very similar criticisms, and use a lot of the same phrasing/words.https://youtu.be/J536vWn7QxI?feature=sharedhttps://youtu.be/6S-LzWyNp94?feature=shared
Don't know who that is and don't care. Anyone faggy enough to take a video of themselves and have to wear a mask is not worth paying attention.
>>493321387It's interesting if my schizo theory is correct and a black guy has a channel railing against DEI and woke shit.
>>493321208>Slandered GamingDoes that guy suffer from some kind of disease or birth defect? Why does he look like that?
>>493267523darven moment
>>493322157>Freaked out when the game said his name because it's similar to mineHad to double take with that
>>493267523the fuck is a morta
>>493266881Cam is dead by the time I unlock gold dragon. She's a sociopath, theres no fixing that
>>493267523I like crossover shit even if I've never heard of Morta before, hope they do more small dlc like this.
Heres my god btw
>>493323796Based
>>493267523First time I'm hearing of Children of Morta. Let's hope it turns out well.
I'm not sure if it's good.
>>493329251she doesnt like my character because im too shady and none of the other romancable companions are any goodthis ol salt sails alone...
>>493314221You dont know that most of the archetypes in the tabletop also place a huge thick pile of crap on the base class, especially for fighters?
>>493329971*covers you in a thick pile of crap*never speak to me again
>>493315561Congrats, and woah, you're moving forward really quick. I think you've finished White March already? How did you like it?>>493329565I'm not sure I did the right thing since she's on the creepy side. I hope I won't fuck up anything in her story since it's personal now. But if I do, I'll accept it. It wouldn't be an RPG otherwise.
Can I beat honormode with a melee only lineup?
>>493332024stay in >>493297398
game no get past loading the title screen after updating, what do?
>>493334180delete system32remove your mods
This area really makes you think how important it is to choose a matching soundtrack.
>>493334662it was Scaling Cantrips
I have these weird bug going on in Pathfinder WOTR. I am fighting Minagho in the Abyss in her house. I kill her, but she just keeps on getting back up, so I leave. I then find Yaniel, and we go to her house to kill her, and the same thing keeps happening. I kill her. She gets back up. Yaniel doesn't even move or respond. It never ends. Is there any way to get out of this bug?
>>493267523Since crossovers are on the table, what type of crossovers would you want to see for Rogue Trader
>you are small like a childyes wenduag I am indeed a halfling
Give me your most interesting Duelist DEX builds. Hard mode: no monk/instinct warrior/vivisectionist dip. Extra Hard mode: more than 1 Duelist level taken
>>493344698Not interesting but I'm currently lvl9Eldritch Scoundrel/4Duelist.Not going to lie, I wish there was a way to increase the amount of Parry's you could do. Like, one parry per AoO, but maybe that would be too broken.I just like the 'magic swordsmen' archetype. And Scion, thematically, just isn't what I want.
Graphics card finally croaked so I've been playing some older stuff while waiting for a new one. Was just minding my own business, getting rid of some Kobolds, then out of fucking nowhere this motherfucker and his fuckbuddy jump at me and completely wreck my shit. Minsc was wearing half plate but he might as well had been wearing nothing cause he went down in 2 hits.Goddamn I said
>>49334469810 levels in aldori defender and 10 levels on aldori swordlord like god intended
>>493345854Yeah BG1 has hostile adventuring parties in some of the maps. They're pretty dangerous even once you have a few levels.
>>493345404Interesting, any plans to keep going down ES? Why didnt you go Sword Saint instead?>>493346513Based but not technically a Duelist, aldoriCHAD
>>493344698I don't think it's particularly interesting, but sword saint is an obvious choice since you'll double dip on int/ac bonus
What would one of Minagho's favorite bands be?
>>493344698>Hard mode: no monk/instinct warrior/vivisectionist dip.Why is SHITfinder so bad?
Ember romance DLC with the Gold Dragon update.
Which of the 4 billion WotR martial classes are good?
>entrance in the north>two identical corridors on each side>attack enemies in one of them>more enemies appear in the corridor tanked by Eder and Xoti>eventually overwhelm me because 3 shades spawn on my ass when I'm nearly victorious>'Damn, that must have been the harder corridor'>try the other>easy at the beginning>enemies start trickling in through the corridor>it's cool, Eder and Xoti got it this time>suddenly a whole group enemies rushes in from the other corridor???
>>493353721Demon exclusive
>>493353728Fighter mutation warrior and magus sword saint. Most fighter archetypes are good, slayers and rangers, especially demonslayer, are also pretty good.
>>493350962she keeps out post-punk albums for when Chivarro comes over but is actually more into like Blink 182 and No Doubt
How much race/class/background flavor interaction is there in WotR?>>493354162Are barbarians, monks, paladins and thieves trash or just not that good?
>>493353721leave her alone!
>>493357672>Monk, Rogue, BarbarianDip class>Paladin11 levels is good for 1 pretty desirable feature. Class is otherwise feat starved
>>493352582Its as good as you want it to be, I just set those parameters for when metafags wanna just add that to every build but Ive never had to or wanted to drop a dip in any of these classes
>>493358383>Its as good as you want it to beNo it can't.
>>493344698court poet 16 duelist 2 shaman 2
>>493348841Yeah, those guys and the bounty hunter that comes to kick that sculptor's shit were scary as fuck. And exp gain is whack in this game I swear. Jaheira and Imoen about to reach Lv3 meanwhile my dude just dinged Lv2 and the rest are still on Lv1. Still trying to decide if I should hit the mines yet or go do Minsc's quest. I don't want to lose him yet, but I also don't want his companion.Man I should have taken the orc guy, these paired characters are becoming a pain.
Gaun darn it!
>>493349983>any plans to keep going down ES?Will probably start putting levels back in once I max out on Duelist (is there a point where duelist stops giving anything decent?).Sword Saint instead of EScoundrel? Again, SS feels too married to certain themes and archetypes. Whereas ES really feels like a 'jack of all trades adventurer/mercenary.
>>493358625>And exp gain is whack in this game I swear. Jaheira and Imoen about to reach Lv3 meanwhile my dude just dinged Lv2Classes level at different rates.
>>493360092I was under the impression that dual/Multi classes leveled slower, but that still wouldn't explain why Jaheria is outpacing everyone else by so much.
>>4933446989 levels of the dueling sword fighter thing3 levels of any rogue you want for finesse training8 levels of who cares
>>493363046I just told you that classes level at different rates. You can see where it displays how much XP is required for the next level differing by class, even when the level is the same.
>>493336047Wait is that the part of BoW or main game?
>>493363782>3 levels of any rogue you want for finesse trainingwhy, just take piercing grace
Who was in the wrong here?
>>493367620Bioware, for being cowards.
>>493367620My wife Viconia is so cute.
>>493360092Druids at low levels have very low exp requirements to level. Same with Rogues.
>>493369075God damn, I love my Sister/Wife!
>>493373728sister-wife*
Time to extend my best bro Regill's lifespan by at least a hundred years.Though I'm still not sure what to play, there were so many cool stuff added in the latest DLCs.
Why can Tristian cast Hellfire Ray?
Bump.
>>493380745Because he's a good christian boy
You should've been able to grab Lady Konomi's snoot as punishment for her snootiness.
>>493140691Company of the Antilles
>>493145421how are you not permabanned yet you swine
>>493380745Everytime you use it you become a little more Evil on the tabletop, so technically shouldnt be using it, only Ember should since she is beyond good and evil
>>493394217Is there a spell that makes you a bit more Good when you use it?
>>493394106Your putridogshit infantile 40kiddieslop sharted and flopped, shit eating subhuman.
>>493394839stinking cloud used on semites
what's a good class for through the ashes? and i don't mean the class that makes it easy, like a kineticist or somethingbut something thematic, that can thrive in the challengesmaybe inquisitor? ranger?
>>493398294Rogue imo. You're some ltierally who lowlife, so a rogue works. But one of your companions is a rogue, so i dunno
>>493398478yeah i excluded rogue because you already get one 2 minutes in
>>493394217>Everytime you use it you become a little more Evil on the tabletopSo if you'll cast protection from evil a lot of times then eventually you'll become good?
>>493367620CUZ DATS MY NIGGA CHARNAME!!!
>>493398676i think any class could work. You're just some guy that was at the wrong place at the wrong time. You strat at the theater, so your character was probably watching a play when shit hit the fan
Finally back from work. gonna have dinner while watching an episode of a show and then it's back to wotr
>Only faction that sells Deathroot and Elfroot at unlimited amounts>Also the only faction that accepts those as support resources because "they need it"What?
>>493402161Which part of trading is complicated to you?
>>493403984The fact that the main source of said resource is the one asking for it. It's like being an exporter of something but paying a premium just to import it. Gameplaywise, this just opens an "infinite" EXP loop.
>>493402161DAO?
>>493398294You're deprived of any good gear which makes kineticist good. For lord of nothing you want at least 1 sneak die so you can dump enemy dex and str by 2 every time you hit. Taking a low powered class for rp reasons is fine
>>493405090Yeah. Also, Dwarves asking for runes is weird since they're the only ones that can make it but doesn't really interfere gameplaywise since you can't buy infinite of it.
update fucked my WotR play through and now my entire file is corrupted and will not load it is just some QoL mods well, I either start the entire thing new, or I wait for mods to update>it is funny that I have two and my first one is still accessible
>>493404309It sounded to me like you were donating these roots so they could fleece people.
Today I will play the role of Knight Commander of the Fifth Crusade
>>493407551Updating the mods won't help, you'll have to restart the whole thing most likely. At least it didn't for me
>>493408607Isn't that every day?
>>493399870What show my excellent chap?
>>493409258Babylon Berlin
Who should be my Espionage minister?
>>493407551you could try rolling back to the previous version no?
>>493409992Ekun
>>493409992If Ekun is available then Ekun, he has sensible decisions.
>>493410728>just blow the entierty of enemy's CIA>sensibleI mean, it works, but subterfuge isn't really his middle name
>>493407551All of these work before and after the update for me. The only one I'd like to add is brawler class and maybe the psyknife class but I think they aren't working
>fail a skill test>instant deathwooooow. I mean, fair, but didn't expect the game to go this hard
>>493412374Don't quite get the point with those really if it just means a reload.
Treasure of midnight isles act IV Dlc gear is kinda nutty>Double morale bonuses ring>+3 caster lvl robe>Greater persistent rod
Is overwriting really a problem? On the left is Tyranny and on the right is Pillars. Both scenarios are similar (talking to a bleeding out NPC).
>>493416270Not really the same scene, since Tyranny's is one guy refusing help and Pillars' is some guy historydumping you. Definitely didn't need to mention that the temple is old twice though. I guess it's a problem when every scene is like that and comes unprompted, which I assume it did.
>>493416270I think it's fair since the chatty one has "just" a slashed arm while the struggling one is literally disemboweled.
>>493416270Seeing how Tranny sharted and flopped while Pillars became the best RPG ever made: no, it's not a "problem", because there is no "overwriting" in the case of pillars to begin with.
>>493414613>>Double morale bonuses ringdoes it stack with encourage rod?
>>493417101Probably idk I just saw my insightful contemplation go from +8 to +16 and my cha is now 51
>>493416270>bleeding out, close to death>why yes, I WILL tell you the story of my life in every excruciating detailverbose writing is a clear sign of a bad writer
>>493416779tyranny was unfinished and got no fanfare, i had to learn it from a friend, pillars was shilled everywhere
>you can tell Anoriel you want to join the Pathfinders while you're Baronlol
>>493417450>Game clearly rushed out the door>Basically ends midway>Gets a DLC that isn't continuing about what happened>It's basically just saying "It's the Beastpeople that made the wall lol" even if it doesn't make senseYeah it's a mess.
It's crazy how something like burying or burning bodies of the deceased is so often ignored in these games if you think about it. I'm not talking about burying Unnamed Thug #234, Unnamed Thug #235, and Unnamed Thug Wizard #70, but as paying some respect to people slaughtered in the wild, or a former major character.
>>493417101>encourage rod?The what now?
>>493420086https://www.d20pfsrd.com/feats/metamagic-feats/encouraging-spell-metamagic/Idk what is added from mods and what isn't but it exists in tabletop so it can also exist in the game to me
>>493420071I guess it's assumed that someone else came by for them for cleanup but yeah, it's always ignored. Bonus points if the body is lootable and the corpse doesn't disappear so you can still fuck with it after many hours. Even funnier if another character comes in the area and does not acknowledge said corpse.
>>493420456So greater heroism becomes +5 instead of +4? It whould double those bonuses then, because it doubles to bonus from the normal greater heroism. That ring is really good with an azata because of incredible might and Believe in Yourself.
>>493420086a rod that double morale bonus from spells. Maybe it's a mod item, I dunno lol
>saying you have no grudge against her gives her the ickbaste
>>493420071sky burials
>>493420559>Bonus points if the body is lootable and the corpse doesn't disappear so you can still fuck with it after many hours. Even funnier if another character comes in the area and does not acknowledge said corpse.I now remember Skyrim.>>493420940Not canon however.
>>493420892NGcucks... the shed is calling
>>493420892>being a spineless simp makes women as dry as saharajust like irl
>>493421426>Can't be romanced btw lmaoGood job Sawyer
>>493421256wtf aruebros how can this be
>Do not deceive yourself. My interest in you is mere curiosity. anime moment
>>493420710Believe in yourself seems like a way to make wis caster relevant at casting since the others are covered by court poet
>>493420892>choosing anything but 5
>>493422308
>>493422929>stop chimping out for a second and I can probably solve your problemis my favorite because I can feel the exasperation
>>493420892It is a stupid response anyway. She knows what she's doing is horrible and you're just completely exonerating her. She's already went through multiple simps, she doesn't want another.
I swear after I finish the game I'm reloading to see what these do.
>>493423254why the fuck would I care about solving a problem of an ugly ho who's trying to kill me? My name is not Captain Save a Hoe last time i checked
>>493424417because you aren't strong enough to put her down at that point
>>493425721low test
>>493420892>BABY TELL ME THE TRUTH>wtf we are NOT dating I don't owe you anything>3 acts of pining later>Ok I guess we are datingI love salad
>>493425721nigga, she keels to single brap. Shes the most pathetic excuse of a boss/villain
>>493421829>anger with a hint of bafflement "why shouldn't a mistress visit her pet?">something along the lines of "if you die I'll have forgotten you by next dawn"she is a big tsun
>want to replay WOTR>have to go through chapter 1 and 2 againfuck me this is painful
>>493424417because its all actually being orchestrated by a big bad fey because he was bored. And he also stole her heart or whatever so she physically cannot not be a bitch until she gets it back
>>493427473The first dev to actually make an RPG with options to skip to certain chapters will win... something. Somebody just fucking make one
Why are will-o-wisps such cunts anyway?
>>493427725Dead people are always cunts because they are seething about being dead
>>493427652at this point I just toybox buffs and set the game to story mode, fuck that
>>493427485Not my problem. Killing all f*y is the easiest solution to the problem. Also the most correct one. Kep simping
>>493427652>he doesn't like having his weapons randomly break for the first couple hours of baldurs gate
>>493428616I'm not saying it isn't retarded but thats what her justification is. the funny bit is that if you get "good" nyrissa back during the last act in the epilogue it'll talk about how she helped out the kingdom so much that noone would believe that she used to be an vengeful fey witch yadda yadda
Can you recommend me a good crpg? I tried kingmaker, wotr and bg3. They all had their high points, kingmaker and wotr more so than bg3, and I enjoyed all of them, but I feel like they're all missing something. They can't recapture the highs of vtmb.
>>493429419>They can't recapture the highs of vtmb.Which was?
>>493429419how aboutthe original baldur's gate gamesdragon age originspillars of eternitydivinity original sin 2tyrannyor for a break from fantasy, maybe wasteland 2?
>>493429419I wish the other splats got crpgs. Personally I'm more interested in mages and hunters than emo blooddrinkers and hippie furries (that will tear out your throat)
>>493429810>Wasteland 2>Not 3Huh.
>>493429891you can play 3 after you played 2
>>493429419Fallout 2 is the best crpg of all timeDisco Elysium is the best written crpg of all timeTry both
>>493429601The whole game really, even the combat was pretty fun to mess around with thanks to the clan abilities, but if I had to choose one thing it would have to be the atmosphere.>>493429810Thanks for the suggestions, but I've already tried dragon age origins. I couldn't stand it, the combat there was genuinely mind numbing. This is coming from someone who didn't mind the wotr and kingmaker encounter design. Which crpg on your list would you say is your favorite? I've also heard bad things about pillars, how good is that game?>>493429816I would pay a lot for a mage the ascension or changeling the lost rpg.
anonswhat do you play when you get cRPG burnout?i feel like i've played only this genre for too long and can't really get into it as much as before, so i need a break
>>493429419VtMB is not the same type of game, retard.
>>493430164Farm sims and Cultist Simulator
>>493430164Try Risk Of Rain 2, Dark Souls 1 or Noita, they're all great.
>>493430164ARPGs mostly. Tried BL3 earlier but seems like I grew out of shooters and I'm shit at anything that actually requires skill.
>>493430126>Which crpg on your list would you say is your favorite?excluding dragon age since you didn't like it i'd say that among those my favourite is probably pillars of eternity, great story, great writing, amazing atmosphere, good enough combat, maybe a bit too balanced, there's not a lot of room for power fantasy shenanigansbut you seem like a fan of turn based games so i'd tell you to check out divinity original sin 2
>>493430164I read books. I've been getting less and less patient with games as time goes on.
>>493430602fuck i should do that too, i used to be such an avid reader now i don't read anything at all
speaking of readingi have 3 sagas collecting dust that i should get on with reading>wheel of time>LOTR>stormlight archivewhich one would you start reading if you hadn't read any of these?
>>493430164megaten
>>493430953Grow the fuck up and stop reading slop. Lotr is the only one worth your time out of those three
>>493430953I got to book 6 of WoT and stopped because it turned into a slog.
>Stop reading slop>lotr
you will read my fanfic
>>493427473Bro your save at sword of valor?
Is it a good idea to dual class at lvl 13 if I skip SoD and import my character straight after the end of BG1? I will abuse scrolls for level ups.
>>493430164VNs or VN like stuff. Played this year and liked The House in Fata Morgana, 1000xResist, Minds Beneath Us.
>>493431504Depends are you berserker or kensai? Playing kensai til 13 is pretty painful
>>493430953For it I'm waiting for the next Unbound Audiobook
>>493432669Going for Berserker/Mage.
Avowed will save gaming industry
What's the Human Fighter Longsword of Rogue Trader?
>>493432896always wizard
>>493430164>what do you play when you get cRPG burnout?Kino.
>>493432838Playing til 13 with berserker is less painful I'm not sure you can scroll scum enough xp to bring it to 14. Either way theres a lot of downtime
>>493432896Warrior Arch-Militant or Warrior Vanguard I guess depending on whether you want to tank or to delet
>>493433041What this
>>493433412Valkyrie Profile
>>493432896Warrior Assassin if you're just going for pure damage. Vanguard doesn't really add much damage desu.
>>493430953IMO LotR is actually good literatureWoT is marysue slopdidn't try the last thoughthat being sa(i)d I just as with games you should read what you like and disregard what other people think
>>493432896>Longswordswordlet
I swear if they fucking nerf Carnage like they did with Grave Singer.
how do i git gud as a paladin in pillars of eternity?i feel useful but not exactly strong
>>493434718You stand there and be invincible and immune to everything and that's about it.
>>493416270I have to disagree with some of the other anons.Tryanny example has little words but it has even less of a reason to have words at all, it seems to serves very little purpose [at least that is what is evident on the screenshot, I recon it's the very beginning but my memory is hazy if there was a valid reason for all of this, maybe a chance to show your disposition]Oh my Guan! example on the other hand unveils a bit of lore about the world, and the text itself is actually pretty easy to follow and doesn't tire you down with words. At least I've read it just now with some enjoyment, which is actually pretty surprising, I usually skip most of PoE dialog. I guess that specific piece is by some of the better writerstldr;a less wordy writing is worse than wordy writing if it the former serves no purpose
>>493434832uhi see
>>493434718>how do i git gud as a paladin in pillars of eternity?In terms of offense?1. High Might with Sacred Immolation is the Nr.1 AoE damage dealing tool.2. Zealous Focus (affects self) for hit-to-crit conversion.3. Sworn Enemy for bonus damage and Accuracy.
Who killed Aroden?
How viable is it a full melee party for Rogue Trader? Vanguard Abelard to tank, Arch Millitant Jimmy to kill shit, the new DLC assassin lady, Warrior MC and finally Cassia and Jae to provide buffs for every one and for skill checks respectively.
>>493432896commisar is the basic bitch option
>Game that lets you use only 4-6 characters at the same time lets you use your whole team for one fightThis is so fucking good that I hate it's not done more often.>>493435769>Cassia and JaeYes but it's just you and them with Abelard and Jimmy pretending to help.
>>493429419>highs of vtmb>atmospheredoes any other game really?not crpg related, but try Prey 2017 and De SEX HR and MD
>>493430126>I've also heard bad things about pillarsnow where did you hear that?nah it's a good game
>>493435919>Abelard and Jimmy pretending to helpThey were both killing shit left and right by the end game while taking 0 damage or dodging every attack.
>>493435769>not blasting 50 rounds of bolter shots in one turn with argentaabsolutely heretical
>>493435769>how viable is full melee party except it's not full melee partydumb anon. Anyway, it's viable. Abelard and Jimmy will take care of everything, their self-buffs are more than enough, even the officer is not needed
>>493430164racing and flight simsshooters and action games in generaleconsims railroad tycoon, simscity you know the stuff
>>493435769cassia has been nerfed to shit and is currently the weakest party member. literally everybody outdamages her
>>493436596>Cassia>Damage
>>493436258I already did that and it was fun, but she couldn't do that against the final boss because it gets damage reduction every time it's attacked, so bursts just made it extremely tanky.>it's not full melee partyCass and Jae are just there as cheerleaders, Navigator powers are just too good and Jae has absurd skills because most of her shit is derived from Fellowship.
>>493436667her buffs are also the weakest in the game
>>493436596Her debuffs are her damage silly. I dropped the final boss from 21k HP down to 12k when I applied all debuffs.
>Talking about battle plans when they're overhauling (read: ruining) the combat
>thank you brave hero for saving our retard asses, no would you like to hear a song?>no thanks, bro, gotta run, the world needs saving>NO! YOU WIL SIT DOWN AND LISTEN TO OUR SHIT SINGINGi hate desnashites so much it's unreal. i made sure to squat in their shitty temple afterwards and peed in every corner
>>493436909>needing debuffsstop being bad
>>493436676>it gets damage reduction each time its hitDidn't even notice that because I buffed argenta to hell and back and nearly onerounded him lol
Everything in rogue trader is subject to change whats the point in arguing?
Whens that tamriel rebuilt thing getting an update? Someone here seems to know last build was from december. I'm willing to give it a chance the last time I tried it, it was severely incomplete though and that was a long time ago
>>493440347Define incomplete because most cities or really all of them have complete questlines now.>WhenWasn't it around this week?
>>493440584I'm talking like at least 5 years ago it was shit as I've gone through 2 computers since. Some items didn't load, areas had little to no content, the sort
>>493440584>>493440347It's not known exactly when, but it is rumored to be very soon. The official release date is "when it's done."
>>493429419Always PoE.
I remember when everyone liked NWN2: MotB, but nobody talks about it anymore. Think I'll give it a try, I played NWN2 twice but got bored at the trial part both times.
>>493447369Motb is very good, but relatively short. There's nothing really to talk about anymore, it's a very focused narrative and roleplaying experience that has been discussed to death.
>>493363876>>493373601Oh gotcha, that makes more sense.
I don't even know if this is the right place but I simply must seethe, I'm enjoying the fuck out of Fear and Hunger so far but I swear to god I'm going to end up filtered by the little things like failing a coinflip 8 times in a row just so I can save the game and to to bed at 1 am.
>>493449590>Not an RPGNow that's out of the way, just save in the prison area since there's a bed there inside one of the cells where seemingly only the shitter bats or zombie spawns that you can juke with sprint. Or if you're far enough, there should be one in the city.
>>493449809>fairYeah, I just ended up going to the bed by where the Torturer is because everything there except for the Dark Priests are dead and they can't move.>actual RPGsI'm excited for the Rogue Trader DLC but not a whole lot else, honestly the RPG sphere has kinda felt disappointing for a minute. Any hot new shit to keep an eye out for?
>>493449804Deadfire is a masterpiece, but Serafen is one of the worst companions ever written. Absolutely disgusting shitstain with no redeeming features. His "humor" is vomit inducing.
>>493450272Both Avowed and Bloodlines 2 will be good. I predict deese things.
>>493450630I want Bloodlines 2 to be good because I enjoyed the first one and I enjoy the source material, but I know it'll be slop that'll maybe be good for one playthrough before never touching again. I forgot Avowed was even a thing, but yeah, that could be a good time. I've got a decent amount of faith in Obsidian.
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