Previous: >>493217060>What is Sword of Convallaria?Sword of Convallaria is part gacha, part full-length SRPG in the vein of FFT and Tactics Ogre, with very light rogue elements. Originally released in the country of Taiwan, also has a separate CN version, a JP version and a Global version.>FAQhttps://rentry.org/ytyp8475>Helpful links and resourceshttps://rentry.org/69uipc8n>Current EventsBrawl! Elysium Feast (2024/08/16 – 2024/09/10)Voyager's Conundrum (2024/08/23 - 2024/09/05)Upon the Scorched Earth (2024/08/30 - 2024/09/24)Seven-Day Promise (2024/09/06 - 2024/09/15)>Current Banners[Debut] Simona (2024/08/30 – 2024/09/12)[Destined] LilyWill & Alexei (2024/08/23 - 2024/09/05)[Destined] NonoWill & Momo (2024/09/06 - 2024/09/19)>GuildsVidyaSocksTouch Vlder TailSorceress HatLuckletsVlder SanctuaryApply to a guild then reply to the OP or recruiter ITT with the last 4 digits of your UID and mention the guild you are applying to along with your current profile picture.Codes (may or may not work)SOCSEAGIF82TSOCSEAUP13SOCSEABRAV27OSOCSEACHEE6R
>more time to save for SaffiyahGood. I am going to roll for Cocoa anyway
>Homa>Acambe>HasnaWho are we rolling
maybe the elaman route will motivate me to finish my papal run, because i'm not particularly interested in union/iria routes
>>493397608I don't know
Bros, which is better? Tuning hammer or Feast Axe?
>>493397608Cocoa, SchackLulu, Agatha
>>493397765hammer is great for OHKOs and collision damage, so any map except for bossesfeast axe is a better all-rounder
>>493397608I don’t know, everyone I really want is Union or Iria.
>>493397765Feast axe is good but it needs the enemies to have lower %HP than the user for the damage boost. Not an issue with Rawiyah's Gale BreachTuning Hammer gives lower attack boost but with no restriction and dispel on attack. It's the best all rounder axe
>>493398224>>493398783>realize i read the hammer wrongfuck ignore me
This is a 7-1 and above only threadIf you're a brainlet shitter then your opinion is irrelevant and should be ignored
>>493399141you mean 8-1
>>493397353Socks has room for 1, if you'd like to join apply and let me know the last 4 of your UID
>>493397608How does Acambe play? All I know is he can summon assassins.
what if they save Saffiyah and Auguste banners for last just to fuck with people
It's time to roll for Nonowill
>>493397608rolling homa and cocoafuck the rest
>>493401062recklessly taking any excuse to chase generic dupes, you say?
>>493397608>fungal>homo>homo (again)>shakeshack>panamawho comes up with these names
>>493397608>Don't have any fucking clue when Auguste will be out or if they'll just randomly release Taair to screw with peopleI choose saving to death.
>>493397608cocoa and homa(priority)saffiyah(optional)
Literally 6 pull till 180Where is Saffiya
More SoD events
I don't have the motivation to play SoD...
>>493399141you retards aren't on 9-1 above?
Total Vlder armpit licking
>>493402713I don't follow guides and got too annoyed with last week's 8-4.
Where's Auguste banner AAAAAAAAAAAA
When are we going to go refugee on the devs and take all the Hope Luxite?
good luck to momoanons
>>493403693The real Momo anons already got spooked by her day 1.
>>493403401Rules for thee but not for me. Refugees for you dorrars for me.
>>493403738joke's on you I got her with the selector
Momo being pared with Nonowill on her banner kills my will to roll on her since I already have a Nonowill...guess i'll just wait for Cocoa
how do I do 8-5
>>493403838Fair. >>493403836Nyooooooooooooooo...
>>493399141I never push past 8 because i don't want to brick myself
>>493402713>>493399407As long as you’re above 6-5 by 51 you’re an expert veteran that knows more about the game than the chinkschizo
>>493403738>got spooked with her early>did a 10x for shits and giggles>got a dupeit was meant to be
>>493403926https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wEnGubjqU_4Use banditbros like usual. No gear needed even
>>493403693I hope she comes home bro...
>>493403693Literally me
>>493404067I'm just hanging around at 8 this time you retard, and it might shock you but being unable to read chink in a chink game is a lethal problem.
>>493403738kek she was actually my first SSR (got her and gloria same 10x pull but momo showed up first)i havent used her in a while come to think
>got Momo instead of that slut NonoHow do I use her
>>493404356For me it was Garcia and Momo before Gloria.>i havent used her in a while come to thinkMe neither.
>>493404457use her to pull enemies into the water in clashshe can start doing damage when she gets her final skill but not very many people are that high level
what exactly is judgement tarot's 60 effect?
>Running Auguste and Saffiyah along with the Elaman charactersThoughts?
>>493404765It gives out [judgement] debuff to enemy. basically, they got 10% more damage taken
>>493404502
I just lost to a burst tower bros...It's Over.
>>493404915oh that's kinda nice, thanks
>sand niggers sod updatesaff bros.....shes not coming....
>Nono>Momo>Cocoa
>>493405192My balls are gonna explode
I'm kinda fucked here, saff or auguste when? I can't hold onto this forever.>universal pity at 30
>>493406226Cocoa
>>493403693I got her within 30 rolls.
meh might as well roll a tenner on the momo/nono banner
>>493406226Just wait? What are you, a drug addict?
>>493406863worse, a degenerate gacha addict
>this slightly different strat should work>messes up enemy rng and they get a crit that completely ruins it
Should I roll on the Momo/Nono banner if I already have Col/Beryl?
>metafaggots get to save for Saffiyah and Auguste after pulling Cocoa>I have to scramble to get enough Luxite for Hasna like 1.5 months earlier than plannedMy disappointment is immeasurable and my day is ruined.
>>493408323I for one am happy about it because I'm sitting on one tenpull and 0 pity
>>493407948Depends, are you gay?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jPwmTaHE2V0Cocoa's voice is cuter than I expectedI'M ROLLING OHHHHHHHHHHHHHH
I hate dual bannerI got Momo so I can't continue rolling for Nono or risk getting a dupeWhy can't they just make it so you won't get the same feature unit
>already have momo and nono but wanna roll anywayi hate gachas
>>493408908Because this game intentionally set out to be Worse Langrisser #2.
>>493408323Did some roadmap get revealed or something? I know Cocoa was basically leaked as the next banner, but when did we learn about everyone else?
>>493408765god bless japan
>>493409136>>493408765
>>493408908the banner doesnt have the duplicate gurantee bwo so stop rolling
>>493409136New SoD branch got announced, look at the OP pic. Presumably they’ll do the three brownies to go with it.
New route gonna have 3 endings too or just 1?
120 rolls left for Cockcoa
>>493409419guess im skipping for 3 weeks then wake me up when the nigger banners end
Damn if they do Cocoa -> Homa -> Hasna then i get to full save for a guarantee on Safi and win
>>493409419Their names and titles are given in the trailer itself, that said if the devs are retarded enough to bring this story forward so quickly they're probably retarded enough to run Saffiyah and Auguste debuts during this storyline.>>493409476Three, Crimson Night only has 1.
>>493409284>>493409419Eh that's it? I thought it was something more solid, but this is basically just speculation.
will cocoa be dual banner? was she in the other release and has the game been following those banners?
My mind is telling me Hasna, and damn did she look even more delicious in that trailer, but isn't Homa supposed to be OP as fuck? Why did they have to make her so boring...
>>493409842These are all going to be debut banners and we will never see Saffiyah until right before eos
>>493409842Dual banners are only for units who have already been added to the general pool, so no, Cocoa will be replacing Simona.
>>493409793Not really, because characters are released in batches in line with the story so you should be very nervous about those who aren't actually linked to the story patches.>>493409842All debut banners are solos, and Cocoa currently has a dual banner with Inanna.>>493409993OP physical support yes, and strongly recommended if you want Auguste too.
Well should I roll on Simona bros? Who's the next best Watcher character coming? Agatha?
Simonb > Simona
>elysium feast is still up>I thought it went in to "turn-in" mode when scorched earth releasedI've bricked my shop...
>>493410295Harambe
>>493410295Taair actually, but I recommend checking IceyFun's video on Agatha if you're interested in her.
>>493409793I mean they didn't outright confirm Hasna and the rest will come after Cocoa, but it'd be stupid to release the Elaman route without running the Elaman banners.Besides the only reason for Safiyyah or Auguste to be next is because that's the order the other servers got which is weaker speculation, and they've shown they're willing to swap things around by bringing Cocoa early.
>80 rolls>2 momoWhere the fuck is nono
>hasna isn't in the promo imagebut my brown titties...
>>493409993https://youtu.be/WLkkURqnCUE?si=3GNZwA1EqV_T9-8sAn actually good breakdown of her if your interested
Hasna is a seeker tankBricked as fuck lol
>>493410546> Taair actuallyI keep forgetting about him, I really ought to do papal route next
>>493411070>CN server has CN voicesI suddenly understand why global had 37% CN downloads
Shit this game may be, at least they're not dumb enough to put ads inside the game hahaha
>>493411268>TFW my favorite is contained to one pathSuffering to the max hahaha.
Did they confirm the delicious browns as the next few banner?They showed them in the trailer cause they're in the story. Taair is in the main story papal route and Agatha in the tower yet they release them after the sand people. Im sure they'll release Saff and Auguste after Cocoa
Why do you want cocka just cope with Maitha broShe works the same
>>493411737I need Cocoa for my Maitha team
bwos...I thought nameless staff was a mage's weapon...I levelled it before checkingIt's Over
>>493411678in any other context, a debut trailer showcasing new characters means they're nextno reason to assume otherwise imo
>>493411678True, we don't necessarily know and the devs will likely lock down on test server even more but it's almost certain.
How do I get into the test server
>Noncoomer game goes coomer for one character >She is dogshit This sinful woman is going to brick my account...
>>493411070>According to the rumors, she and the parrots share a partnership
Wanted NonoWill but got Momo, she cute but is she good?
>>493412298>TFW Taair made friends with all her birdsThe profiles have some funny comments.>>493412356Pretty good, large AOE application and her alert makes her a real beast in PVP. That said you want 3* on her at least.
>>493412298>he
>>493411070Damn, she looks pretty fun.
>>493412190just because something makes you cum doesn't necessarily mean it's sinful
>>493412617>That said you want 3* on her at leastI guess I'll replace Dantalion after he's 3*
>>493413025That's fine, Dantalion doesn't scale that much.
How do I build Nonowill
Nonolets....
>>493411070Is she the only way to give dodge to others?>>493413262If you don't run an infection team start with the vulnerability area debuff. If you do run an infection team start with the vulnerability area debuff too.
>>493412986She is sinful because she is going to brick my account retardbro
>>493412190sinful sweaty armpits
307 pulls, what do?
>>493414672Simona dupes
So how do alters work? Does Rawiyah Alter benefit at all from having original Rawiyah at higher stars?
I just went 80 rolls with an ssr. Man that felt bad.
>>493415071They're just alts like FEH.
>>493415224I played that very casually and honestly have no idea how alts worked there. But from what I remember they were all completely different characters, no? Unless a different version of the same character wasn't always considered an alt there.
>>493415572They're just alts.
>>493414769thanks for the encouragement, got her in 13
>>493414324hips don't lie bwo
>>493415921Enjoy the Aryan Queen
critical event battles in spiral don't have a time limit, right?
>>493415785I read something about them inheriting one of each other's skills so clearly they have a bit more going for them at least compared to feh alts
>>493416453Yeah, that's how TW found out that Samantha Alter is coming soon.
>>493411070she looks fucking great
>>493416316nevermind i forgot that they don't take up the weekly quest limit regardless
>another SoD event that gives dozens of pulls*skips all cutscenes**brings the most overpowered meta units possible**genocides all Vlder**finishes in 6 hours*It's gaming time.
>papal route>cutscene made her leave the battlefield afterwardsi don't think i was meant to be able to beat her here, but i'm morbidly curious what would've happened if i did
>>493414324more like plapal
>saving for meta to get 400 more luxite than 70% every 2 weeks tryharding to get 95%>800 luxite per month the math isn't mathing bwos......feels like its better to just roll who you want.
>>493419887It takes 27000 luxite to guarantee one unit so assuming you get like 800 luxite a month, it would take you 34 months to make up your debt of rolling a character you don't want.
all the characters i like are meta. maybe you should get better taste?
>>493418531did not play that route but whenever sequence broken a character either nothing happened and battle finishes as normal or it got reset and the script proceeded regardless
>selected characters in Spiral keep their equipped skills>EQUIPPED skills, not learned skills
>>493421832Sucks that you gotta take Maisha and Faycal manually despite them being playable anyway if you want them not to start off useless every run.
>momo can instantly pull two enemies off in clashwhat the fuck
>Momo needs 3 stars and level 55 to get her best skillAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
Do you guys think the monthly 10 pull is worth 680 gems?
>>493424362If youre spending yeah theres not much to spend on
>momo can instantly pull me off in bedwhat the fuck
>>493424362game respects the light spender but shats on the leviathans
Is anyone else actually happy we got the delicious brown girls patch instead of Saffiyah/Auguste?Chasing meta sounds terribly boring so I'm glad we got some of the more interesting looking characters first.
>Every female Vlder has poison skills except ButterflyHow despicable. Is Butterfly the only Vlder woman with any honor?!>*Butterfly teleports behind me and stabs my butt*Argh!
>>493424362
>>493423075three, actuallynot like the stars will ever align to make it possible but butterfly's teleport skill does help a lot
>>493425087I mean aside from Hasna all of the Elaman are also insanely good units, I think people are just moreso annoyed that they have to wait for Saffiyah/Auguste when they thought they'd be next.
>>493425087No because I'm going for Alacrity characters and already spend my pulls on Nungal and LilyWill thinking Hasna would come later. Fucked my whole gameplan up, so now I'll have to pray I get lucky.
>>493425223BASED thanks.Guess I'll just buy the green ones.
>>493425087I really wanted Saff for a HM team but I’m glad they moved her back because it let me roll for Simona.
What skills for Momo?All her exclusive skills look good
Does Momo's trait gets the cooldown actually removed at 3* or were they lazy to add it in the tooltip?
tailored training can be used more than once each, right?>>493421302aw>>493423878i'm almost there, i can't fucking wait
>>493426571I'm sure they weren't too lazy to copy an past a single sentence. Enjoy the extra barriers.
>>493426801>tailored training can be used more than once each, right?yes
>>4934268013 times per character
>>493427016>>493427059yes as in they can be used by multiple characters, not repeatedly on the same
>>493427016>>493427059>>493427221cool thanks
>>493425087So are metabros rolling Houma and Acambe now? I don't really care if it's different meta characters, I'm still rolling meta.
>>493427640Acambe requires the BP weapon I believe.
>>493428106Is he using staves?
>>493428242yes, he's a mage
>>493426801>sword+pentaclebricked
>>493427640I wanna hold out for Safi since she's the only Irian ssr seeker that I need for my Dantalion comp. Acambe sounds cool though and I have 3 skelly staffs so maybe?
How do we feel about Acambe?
>>493428294Guess I'm good then, I'm using the BP staff on Momo right now but I can switch if he uses it better
>>493428394Vlders out for acambe
Acambe or Saffiyah?
>>493428564both for the summon team
>>493425223Very nice
>>493428394does he do anything only he can do? whats his skills?
>>493428394I think he looks cool as fuck
>>493425087I love delicious chocolate and will almost definitely pull for Homa. Would like to bring both home, but I need stuff for Saff too. I'm torn with Cocoa. She's evidently amazing, but I hate her design. I probably won't put much into her banner, if anything.
>>493429292Strongest mage in the game when fully invested (5 star BP weapon + 3+ stars on himself).He's a summoner and extremely NRG hungry from what I hear.
>>493429973>dpsmeh unless hes doing a really unique thing then hes replaceable
>>493429292Summons assassins, buffs/debuffs, and can reposition enemies. Like the other anon said though, his best weapon is the BP staff and he ideally needs stars for his full potential. His aura also boosts characters that can summon (Saffiyahs HM and Innana guard for example).
>>493430368so whalebait. dont roll unless youre spending gotcha
>>493428394>>493429367Just imagine him as a girl, we were robbed
>>493430572You can cope with skeleton staff if you're f2p (true)
Acambe has higher Max NRG and replenishes 1 more each turn for every 3 he already had. So he can spam high cost zero cooldown skills like Beryl.
>>493430659Homa is the less cool female version of him
Why is white objectively the best element? Isn't black supposed to counter it and be countered by it?
>>493430890Watchers tend to have lower stats than other classes I believe.
>>493430669uooohhhhhh, The time has finally come!!
>>493430890watchers have lower stats and are easily mogged by the trio colored units
>>493430890You mean Watchers and Destroyers? Watchers are supposed to be overall weaker than the RGB classes since they are the archer/healer class, but they throw that out the window for certain legendaries like Gloria. Destroyers are supposed to be good against everyone with their higher stats, with the exception of the aforementioned Watchers.
>>493430890Watchers stats are lower but that usually doesn't matter since their move sets are unique and offset that.>>493431284Oh that actually makes sense, his assassins dying count. >>493431284
>>493429367gaudy
>>493431107>>493431447Watchers having lower stats is kind of a meme for certain units like Agatha for example has over 15k hp at max level lol.
>>493432009*kicks you off a cliff or to your ally*
>>493432009that anon was memeing about ice team but I'm gonna do it
>>493432009She should've had a transformation mechanic instead of being in furry form the whole time...
>>493425087No because almost all of them are meta to begin with.
>8-5 is deliberately set up to range gang maitha and melee gang fecal while they're so helpless they can take no actions
>>493431586Not really, if the Assassin dies the skill will go on CD anyway.
>>493434981Look at her go!
>>493434183whats the strat if I only have 1 mage. the storm breakers are making it a pain, too
>>493399141I just beat 6-5 at 36, fuck Guzman's Rez
>>493435129NTA but you want to use him with other summons anyway so it works
Will Inanna ever get her Edelgard route?
>>493436562Yes but in that route the MC roleplays Excelblem
Inanna Alter when?
>>493435963The usual knockbacks still work but you need papal ice to lay down extending tiles if you want to GOMEN Storm breaker too otherwise you need to bait her away from freeing Maitha, Nightingale doing % is still good even with no scorch
>>493434981Butterfly my beloved...
Inanna alt where she becomes the rapist.
>>493418531I got her to 0 hp, she does not die, made me think it was a glitch or something but then the cut scene happened 2 turns later. She is not meant to die in that map.
>Inanna alt where she rapes (you) Kino waiting to happen
Anyone have a site with Rawiyah Alters kit, for some reason this site doesn't have herhttps://swordofconvallaria.co/
>>493439234https://wiki.biligame.com/llzj/%E9%A6%96%E9%A1%B5Get ready to learn Chinese buddy
How good is Momo? I want Vlder girls, but I already have Nonowill, and Momo is my least favorite of the bunch.
>>493397353So this means Saff and Auguste are getting delayed?
>>493432009I like Agatha, but do I need to pull her ice team to make her usable?
>>493439891No, it means they are getting released in two duals, together with respectively Nergal and Teadon, in a first tailored for global to everybody's enjoyment!
>>493440142>ice teamwhat
>>493441278I thought I read somewhere she needs Simona and Alexei
Just lost this twice with both choices, a match-up the KA would easily win if they didn't move the archer up in range of the ice priest after you've chosen.
>>493441693
>>493441510Just pull Simona since she is hot as fuck anyway if that's the case. Alexei can fuck off, I rather use papal ice mage
Why does Col have a leader's aura that she is not part of? Feels werid
>>493442323She is Alacrity bro
>>493441510Taking a quick look at her kit, seems like she only has one skill that really benefits from ice terrain. I am sure you could build her without it.
Approximately how long would it take f2ps to get the character selector from memory crystals?
>>493442680over a year
>>493442323Impressive that you can post while blind.
>>493442680>Approximately how long would it take f2ps to get the character selector from memory crystals?Bahahahahahahahahaha
>>493442680It takes like a year to get the selector in hoyoshit (HSR/ZZZ) so its the same here, they probably copied it from them.
>>493442430Well shit, I got tricked by a shitty website, thanks for the clarification
>>493442680i am not f2p and have rolled 540 times which im guessing is probably like 200-300 more times than you have rolledi have 14000 memory crystals out of 70000, so you do the math. it will take a long time even for spenders
>>493443998SSR shards a lot more than the low rarity shards you normally get from gacha. Once you have your first 5star SSR it's apparently 3~4 months of daily shard farming to get the picker. Can't remember where I read that from
>>493443998It’ll speed up some once you’ve got all your lower rarities maxed though
>>493445001you mean doing the memory shard farm with a 5 star though right? that's gimping yourself
>>493445141Yeah that's the f2p way to get innana/beryl/dantalion. Well mostly innana I guess.
>>493445042you're right, most of mine are 5 star or close so it will speed up for sure, was just making a point that even me spending im still a ways away so f2p is gonna take a long timei probably wont even buy the crystal selector since i used the $$ one for inanna and already have the characters i want
>>493445268fair enough, that makes sense. didn't even really consider that desu
>>493445268>getting the selector for DantalionNow that’s a brick.
>>493445638HOROBIYOs this post
>>493445638Quiet Lutfi, I don't see *you* providing me with an Irian aura.
>it's another episode of "fortune buff blows up the spicy powder"I both love and hate this fucking tarot
With this game's shitty tarot system it would've been really nice to have hybrid scaling characters.
>>493448214since it gives you the buff at the start of the turn, you're technically able to know it's coming before it explodesthat being said, i never check myself and enjoy the spontaneous combustion
>>493448438>that being said, i never check myself and enjoy the spontaneous combustionKek same. RNGesus can take the wheel.
>>493447757You'll be surprised how powerful and strong my hidden aura is when I'm released, makes Dantalions aura look pitiful.
do these leader aura percentages stack with more units
>>493448438Rawiyah ga shinda!
>>493448421bro your dontelion
>>493448870no
>every magic damage is either destroyer or watcherDo we even have red-blue-green magic dealers?
>>493441510If anything, she needs Miguel's thick, veiny drifter aura
>>493448870Same type of aura buff (atk, def, etc) doesn't stack
>>493448904He's fully patk scaling. Hybrid scaling would be something like 0.9 * (patk+matk).
>>493449414probably lower talents give a fucking lot of stats
>>493449414Unless i'm blind, pretty sure one of his skills has magic scaling
>>493450427>Unless i'm blindyou are, none of his skills scale off magic attack, Dantalion is pee attack only
>>493450427>Dantalion deals 40% physical DMG 3 times. He deals Magical DMG equal to 50% P.ATK>Dantalion deals Magical DMG equal to 90% of his P.ATK.> Another attack is then initiated which deals Magical DMG equal to 40% of his P.ATK>Before initiating an active melee attack, deals magical DMG equal to 40% of P.ATK.Nyope.
>>493450427M.damage but it's all P.ATK scaling
>>493449017SuppressionThat brown slut that will be coming
>>493448421If you think tarots are "shitty", never play a Hoyo game lol. The tarot rng is a complete nothingburger in comparison.
That brown slut is coming, and so am I. Hnnnnngh
I'm convinced the 2% rates are a lie and it's one of those cooked gachas where the actual rates are dynamic depending on how long it's been since your last legendary. I've played a bunch of gacha but I'm pulling a lot less characters than other 2% games I've played.
>>493452454Both suck. Getting one good tarot is like trying to get one on-set on-element cup in g*nshit.
>>493452998I don't believe their lies either
>>4934529982% is one hundred percent a lie. The game uses "forced" guarantees to keep you at or close to 2% pity. The actual rates are likely much lower.
>>493451264damn, alright
>>493453208>>493453450Why is this shit so common with chink gachas anyway? Like given how frequently the chinks go nuclear I would have thought they would have gone after companies pulling this kind of bullshit by now. I don't care that it's a TW game, it's the same shit to everyone outside of those countries. Chinks are chinks.
>>493454102>chink gacha or gacha in generalEA and 2k says hello
>>493452563lust is a sin, anon
>>493454331if she puts the mask on it's not a sin
>>493454326Sportsniggers aren't people. They not only play gacha in a paid game, they buy the same game again every year to do so. They deserve what they get.
>>493453450>The game uses "forced" guarantees to keep you at or close to 2% pity. The actual rates are likely much lower.I think the rates are actually 2%, but at 2% you'd actually get a normal distribution where some players end up with a recorded rate of less than 2%. That would open them up to claims of lying about the rates hence the hidden lucklet pity.
>>493454462You forgot to add their paid game gacha doesnt have pity
When a union exclusive "forging of blessing" is not hugely successful what do you get? it only previews hugely successful
>>493455208Anything but the hugely successful gear I think
>>493454595I've gotten 2 legendaries in my last 241 rolls which is a 0.8% rate lol.
>>493455325>tried to make your Sacred Star Bow but made this shield instead, enjoy!ok..
>>493454595>I think the rates are actually 2%,I fucking wish
>>493455621Yeah, statistically speaking if you set the rates to 2% you'd expect some people to still have an absolutely dogshit percentage. No shady fuckery required. But mathematically illiterate gamblers are not going to understand that, so it's safer to force a pity and keep you from visibly dropping below 2% for too long.
>>493455708It's not worth aiming for it, it's just something that adds replayability and variety.
What the fuck is the difficulty spike of 7-17? Lightning just teleports and owned my party and even fucking Teadon hits like a truck. Level 44 characters and all level 50 gear.
>Old Soldiers Never Die>he fucking diesSorry man I tried my best, thanks for the sword tho.
>>493456086just use your new fancy skill and teleport away
>>493454595>That would open them up to claims of lyingThere's already the poster here every day claiming it's all lies on the basis of all of these 200 rolls so yeah the company would know all about how people can not into stats. I would find it suspicious that it's such a thorough "leave no excuse to launch inquiries into our software" but it's just less hassle, not like it costs them anything
>>493454595It's definitely not a flat 2% rate. 2% is almost certainly a composite rate factoring in pity. Possibly a dynamic rate even, where it starts low and slowly ramps up as you get further in. This is hardly the only game to work like that, where the listed rate is only technically true. It would still trend toward 2% over a large number of pulls, but you get lucky a lot less.
>>493456279wat you get the dull blade either way?I restarted 4 times to draw the bomb officer away and all I got was Ristaff giving me the same speech as Christopher in the tavern?
>>493456086That map gave me trouble at first too. The trick is to teleport to the platform near your spawn and hope teadon buffs someone other than lightning. If he buffs lightning you need to try a different setup because she will wipe you. Also helps to use that bandit who has AOE defense as your main tank.
>>493454595From personal experience and seeing people rolling on youtube, I highly doubt it's 2%.
>>493456369>ere's already the poster here every day claiming it's all lies on the basis of all of these 200 rolls so yeah the company would know all about how people can not into statsI wonder why they actually tell you your rate when they don't have to. I've played ones before that give you a history but not ones that do the math for you.
Goddammit Teadon why can't you point the direction I tell you? Even Faycal can do that much.
>>493456408>factoring in pitypity barely has a measurable effect on the average if 2% is true
>>493456825But do they not have to everywhere they want to release? I think EU has laws about disclosing lootbox rates
>>493457215Isn't that just saying what the overall rate is, not telling each individual account their running rate?
>they’re definitely lying about the rates since I got bad luckTruly a gacha general classic.
If this game was more popular, people would've aggregated the data on rolls and XD would be in deep shit. Unfortunate.You're about as unlikely to hit early as any Hoyo game. Don't ever buy rolls praying for luck, just treat it as getting closer to the next pity.
>>493456560Yeah, another Union soldier hands you the sword saying the old man wanted MC to keep it, MC only responds he had a worthy death.
>>493457419>I trust a random gacha company's rates because they would clearly never lie and gacha companies have never been caught and fined multiple times for fudging ratesKek
I will never understand sucking corpo cock
I've had pretty average luck given the expectation of 2% desu. Anons, look up "variance" and see what it takes to balance it (number of trials.) Here is an interesting fact: You need to play 100,000 hands of texas hold 'em to balance your variance there.
>>493456670Thanks for the tip anon I'll give it a try. Not sure about the generic your referring to but I'll have to level him up probably kek
Next survey then send out I'm asking for an option to turn off Gloria's spear summoning animation. Just Gloria's.
>Check talents>Breakers has a talents that makes them receive less damage when attacked from the front>Meanwhile, Defenders, whose main task is tank, receive attack when injuredThis is retardedWouldn't this make units like Leonide tankier than Maitha?
>>493457820Recent examples of games fudging rates?
>>493458220You vill got the flashbang everytime and you vill like it.
>>493457045IF it's true. If it's a lie the actual rate could be around 1% pretty easily without throwing off statistics thanks to the pity system.
>>493458275Just look at Tempest, dude gains a shitton of defense. Definitely a better defender than actual defenders, especially when he can use the very defensive spears rather than the (mostly) offensive swords
It should be possible to calculate the actual expected pull rates for infinitely large sample size given a floor function, correct? I am not well-versed on statistics, but if we treat the expected outcomes as a normal distribution, and then just truncate the tail at 1/90 = 1.11%. Can't we calculated the new expected value with the modified function?
>>493458317Nexon was found to be lying about their rates recently and got fined 9 million dollars (chump change).
>>493458275Almost none of the defenders actually are tanks. Maitha is a healer/buffer, Magnus is a dps/debuffer, cocoa is Maitha 2.0 etc. Alexlei is sort of a tank, but more on resolve gimmicks than defense and teadon is just bad.
>>493458787Teadon is better than most defenders if you build him right
>>493458787but they're the only ones with cover besides Rawiyah?
>>493458720Not gacha. Gambling laws are much more strict.
>>493458317Mihoyo is a good example. All their games are technically telling the truth of their rates but the pull by pull odds are much lower than the listed one since the listed one factors in their soft pity. It's technically legal, since the overall rates are the truth but it's done in a deceitful way.
>>493458928Gacha is quite literally gambling
>>493459239Yes, but the laws see it differently than korean MMO weapon upgrading and loot boxes for some reason.
>>493459239Yeah, I’m saying the Nexon situation wasn’t gacha.
I wanted to get into this game, should I wait to reroll for Cocoa, since she seems good?
>>493458561If they were 1% you'd be hitting pity almost three times as often, so yes to throwing off statistics
I couldn't care less about rates when i keep getting keked by 50/50.
>>493458945Mihoyo's pull rates are actually accurate funnily enough. They're just extremely low.
>>493459352If you plan to reroll, that would be a good idea. Just keep in mind it's gonna take you about 100 days of grinding to make her broken. She sees a big power spike as you raise her stars to 5.
>>493458945It’s actually not a great example since the listed rate is 0.6% but the actual rate is higher because of soft pity and such.
>>493459457>>493459591Mihoyo's rates are lower than listed until you hit around 70 pulls in and then after 70 they increase until they are much higher than listed. They average out to the listed value but are dynamic. That's what I mean by deceitful.
>>493459708>and then after 70 they increaseThat's normally called soft pity btw. I don't play any Hoyo games, do they not tell you about the increase in their rates description?
>>493459708No, the rates are always at 0.6% below 70. I’m not defending them, those are fucking dogshit rates.
>>493459921Nope
>>493459708You are quite literally wrong. It's the 0.6% listed stat for the first 74 pulls before DRASTICALLY increasing. The actual rates with soft pity are much higher than listed.
>>493459921I'm aware, I was just explaining how it worked. It's not mentioned of course, it had to be figured out by users documenting shit.>>493460078They aren't. It's well documented at this point. The 0.6% is factoring in the soft pity odds increase.
>>493460358>It's not mentioned of course, it had to be figured out by users documenting shit.Damn that's weird. Games like AK spell it out for you (increase to 4% at 50 rolls, then 6% etc.)
>>493460338You are objectively wrong. .06 is INCLUDING soft pity. It's a cumulative rate, the odds before the 70s are so low that the massive rate increase at soft pity only drags the overall rate to .06. This game almost certainly works similarly, only with slightly less shit odds.
>>493460358>well documentedShow it.
>>493460571I look at the data so you don't have to
>>493460726Incredible. How did I know this would be the outcome to my question?
>>493460571Nigga I'm not gonna spoonfeed you. This shit is old news. It's not some secret knowledge. It's well known. Look it up yourself, this isn't leddit.
>>493460928I looked it up. Your claims are wrong. Now what?
>>493458690If you don't trust the 2% rate then no, you can't calculate anything without a large sample size.Or if you suspect it is a distributed probability of 2%, you still cannot do anything. You can test various hypotheses, but you are just guessing unless you have a large sample size to compare it to.
>>493460558You are a stupid faggot. You can quite literally see the exact data on that website that's accumulated over 160 million pulls worth of data.The rates are 0.7%ish percent for every single pull until the 74th. The actual rates when factoring in soft pity is the 1.7% you see there.This game is likely doing the opposite, showing you the 2% overall rate but hiding the individual pull rates.
>>493460338Those numbers don't even line up, 1.77% of 160m is 2.8m further proving how fake the rates are
>>493461081Yeah, but uh, have you considered looking at his data set that he won’t share?
>>493459509I don't mind a long grind, not my first gacha. I'll do that since I liked her voice too, thanks.
>>493461080Just get a good account seed so you won't have to complain even if you know you're being deceived lmao.
>>493461080Why don't we have a warp tracker? Would be quite useful data if everyone uploaded their pulls to it.
I've got my Momo and Nono now, is there a fluffy dog bed that you can get for the customizable room? I would prefer they stay off the couch.
>>493461717I simply trust the 2% myself, I was just answering anon's question.
>>493461817No but there's a dog bed outside isn't there?>I would prefer they stay off the couchSmart move, these Vlderians carry lots of nasty diseases.
>>493461886>No but there's a dog bed outside isn't there?A totally sweet bed, but that's Jenkins' bed.
>>493461815We don't do that around here goyim. Just trust the rates.
>>493462157>playing a game he believes has rigged ratesNow that’s real cuckold mentality.
Mama mia
>>493461815>Why don't we have a warp tracker?Because it's absolutely useless when the game already tracks your rolls in game. The amount of people autistic enough to seriously blame their bad luck on rigged rates are probably like one in thousands so it'd be a waste of development time for a game like this.
>>493461815>>493462495Nobody's going to put out the effort to validate anonymous data, it's not even possible when you have literal autists lying to campaign against the chinese server that wronged them
>tfw I am at 3% with Gloria, Simona, Beryl, Col, Inanna, and NungalIt's Over for Lucklets.
Is Beheading Machete a good idea on Dantalion? He's got a couple of ranged skills so he'll have more opportunities to attack from the highland than other sword users.
>>493462296Name 1 (one) other SRPG gacha that isn't shit
>>493462883you'd better roll nono or you ain't me>>493462954not without Edda imo
>>493463070>not without Edda imo>following the de facto King of Iria around with a personal pedestal so he can behead his enemies more easilyDamn she went from revolutionary girl to bootlicker.
>>493462883I've got Gloria, Simona, Edda, Beryl, Lily, Fatass, Dantalion, Samantha, Momo, Guzman, Alexei and Nono.
>>493463005Don't care if it's shit or good I'm not picking up any gacha older than 1 year
Meteor Line or Irian Combat Bow for Edda? Do the debuffs not matter enough to make a difference?
>>493463425Meteor Line is her BiS
>>493460558>This game almost certainly works similarly, only with slightly less shit odds.It does say "Overall Probability" and not per roll so I buy the technicality but for what purpose? I thought nearly all income was from whales that are going to average out either way
>>4934628833.5%Rate my account
>>4934642380/10 No Nono
>>493397608no one to be honest
>>493397608I'm a Homasexual
>>493397608All of them desu
God, I hate tarot residual
>>493466430Beryl is a nice girl and would never say that
>>493466507She will because its funny.>captcha MAG1K
don't sleep on spiral rewards>>493466430think it's harder than the weapon trial bosses, more moving parts
>>493466507Nice girls know to call a spade a spade
>>493464238how man pulls in total?
>>493466929>don't sleep on spiral rewardsBut I fucking hate Spiral. Maybe if it didn't waste so much of my fucking time
>>4934642389/10Only lacking the true GOD of Sword of Convallaria:Garcia
Gold on final slot can't ever be the upgraded skill right?
>>493467769no, into the trash it goes
Can I just play the required fights in Spirals without bricking my run? I dont feel like doing anything else
>>493466430
>>493469125As long as you fill whatever points bar a stage has and are strong enough. Yes.
>>493469431dumb brat
Dantalion-bros...we got hit with cake THREE (3) times...It's Over
>>493469431
>>493469125Potentially if you're characters you bring are strong enough. I did it just to get the bad end and had no problem but not sure how the levels scale
>>493469809
>>493469809>triple-dipping the delicious cakesDantalion-sama... I kneel...
>>493462482save those armors for your Cocoa
My Agile Eye grows ever stronger
imagine getting an almost perfect patk roll on a STAFF
>>493472021made for pre-30s vanilla warriors
>>493472021wait I just realized the bar at the bottom is the indicator for the maximum value
>>493472454
>>493472454I really don't want to call you names man but come on
>>493472021I unironically want to see a physical staff user.
>>493473118well there's that one spear that looks like a staff...
>>493473118I wouldn't mind someone picking up rocks and using a staff to tennis serve them at enemies instead of using a spell
>lose 5% attack global effect because the wording for what to do with Darklight was trashWhere's the backtrack button.
>>4933995722 spots now. but seems like we've run out of guildless /socg/ anons.
Is the banner schedule really accelerated from this point forward?
>>493473556It's been accelerated from the start. What it is from this point forward is shuffled around, although we have no idea how much. Could just be cocoa. Could be every banner. Probably is somewhere in between.
>>493474039Unless they start overlapping banners I don't see how it's accelerated.
>>493474136Well for one they rolled a bunch of the less valuable characters into the standard pool from the get go.
>>493474272Well that's a headstart not acceleration which is a measure of rate of change
>>493474272Anon I can't tell if you're retarded or not. From THIS POINT FORWARD I don't see how THE BANNERS ARE ACCELERATED.
>>493474541It's acceleration when you skip them piecemeal. From gloria to edda there were 6 banners in between them to save. From edda to simona there were two. From here on I wouldn't be surprised if they just toss some of the less meta characters into a double banner and skip the debut banner entirely, although I admit that's purely speculation on my part.
>>493475026>6>2That's deceleration
>>493475147Anon... That's 4 months of banners skipped. Deceleration would be adding in additional filler banners or making the ones we would normally get longer.
>>493475295The change over time has gone from 6 banners down to 2, that is textbook negative acceleration colloquially known as deceleration
>>493475614In a relative sense, I guess? Sounds like Lutfi logic though.
I think this retard just thinks because he can't save for every unit coming out it's accelerating. Unless they go out of their way to throw Acambe/Hasna onto a dual banner we're not going to catch up to TW faster than this point.
>>493475295Now count how many shards you've lost because those banners were skipped.>>493476089Getting content from six months later means that we ARE grossly accelerated you retard. It's been over a month and no shard compensations have been given BTW.
If we're getting tower faster I don't know how we aren't obviously and undeniably accelerated.
Yeah this is another pajeet looking for handouts.
SPEEED UPPPP
>>493476353Because people are trying to deny that the devs are milking Global/KR/JP for all their worth and EOS when the money dries up. No dev who was doing well would pull a shitty move like banning people and deleting their comments right before the anniversary.Also FYI, CN got TOA around a month or so after TW which means that Global/KR/JP is objectively being treated worse than they ever did.
Momo's trait is kinda shit? Why would anyone even level that up
>>493476973She gets a stack at the start of battle when she's 3*, which helps her.
>>493477146I love ladies in tattered rags
>>493477220With that you just opened yourself to a world of hurt. Innana was also in tattered rags.
>>493475864>In a relative sense, I guess?can't really compare two things without speaking relatively
>>493477389She wasn't though, Inanna's dress is very luxurious even when she was LARPing as a refugee.
oh nyoooooo were getting accelerated banners its 13 days instead of the usual 14 days.We'll EoS even before we get to 6 months behind.
>>493477389Her hair was a tiny bit tangled, her gold-hemmed dress and seemingly silk cloak were not in any way tattered
>>493472454I didn't notice it either anon thank you for pointing it out
Are Strength tarots solely there as cope for Destroyers because Watchers have no weakness?
>>493477706Let me repeat it to you again retard, the Elaman update was released in February for TW and Crimson Night happened at late June. The fact that the devs are speed-running as much whalebait content as possible without taking into account the longevity of the game and what content they actually made speaks for itself.
>>493478067There is no downside to catching up and having every server end up on the same schedule
>>493477706its over eos soon
>>493478067Usual nothing burger from our 6-5 veteran
>>493478241We won't be on the same schedule, devs said they want global to be 6~ months behind. So we will be accelerating but not THAT much.
>>493478241>There's no downside to getting a million banners while we get zero pullsBikecuck behavior
>>493478353Now I'm hungry...
>>493478241Did you read a single thing? There will be NO content left and no one's going to put up with this shit any more after they've had a taste of TOA for a few months, it's impossible for the devs to change course too because they didn't make a single thing besides that story that wasn't a blatant cash grab.>>493478386Elaman came out somewhere in March in CN and the devs claimed that they wanted us to be six months behind CN. What you should be asking is if they're being honest or they're doing what Aniplex did with Magia Record Global, pretending that they wanted to catch up with JP when they terminated the game after the first anniversary.
>>493478564don't reply to me chinkcuck, I was just answering that anon. I have literally zero interest in the opinion of cockroaches.
Wheres the free pulls?
>Gets cucked out of pulls>Gets cucked out of shards>Doesn't see the problemGlobal cucks, not even once.>>493478971With your imaginary shard compensation.
BROS WE'RE GETTING SOME CONTENT EARLY WE'RE TOTALLY GETTING KEKED
>>493479182>Literally one of the only content in a whole damned yearFixed that for you
>level 50 newbie talking like he knows all about the game again
>>493479791Yeah, I know that the game is bleeding money and I know that the game has been losing players and revenue ever since it launched on top of reaching rank 50 twice over. What do you know?
>>493479791Pretty sure even hoyo generals are better at ignoring newfags talking shit, idk why everyone entertains this particular newfag's delusions and replies to it for hours and hours.
>>493480045Yeah yeah, convince yourself that business reports that show the game's plunging rankings throughout its lifetime even before TOA released isn't a problem.
Schizo Ari is that you???
Lutfi just sent me a letter.EoS is imminent and necessary.All according to keikaku.Irian Patriots...Hold the Line.
>>493479943go away seafag
>>493479791The /vg/ special of>I played this game for two days and am an expert on it
>Why is the music so repetitive?>Why didn't the game put in directions?>Why is the game so stingy?>Why is it speeding up?>Why are the devs bringing TOA over so quickly?All of these can be answered with a simple answer: The devs do NOT have money and they're out of funds, contrary to retards thinking that they made a lot of money. There is no future for the game.
He's a financial expert now.
oh yeah i forgot my monthly pass was expiring, it has a fancy popup to remind you
>>493383423She's the pro-slavery queen of Elamans. Hokma is her spy and uses her parrots to send information back to her queen.Acambe wants to free slaves especially the furries.
>>493461080I mean not based on actual pull data, but rather based on statistical model to calculate the "modified expected rates" due to pity, which should be on average a bit higher than 2%.
>>493480045He replies to himself btw
>>493481419You're the one who's most likely to have samefagged, BTW.
Thanks for thread bump :)
>>493480963Oh yeah, you can construct various models for expected probabilities. Should not be too hard for a novice to do this in R, but I haven't done any Math work in a long time desu so I'm not sure.
>another 7000 exp until i hit 55 and rank 11man
Why is the game so good?I haven't played a fun SPRG like this in games. Every other game either forgets to put in the strategy aspect and becomes braindead or barely has any gameplay to begin with but this game has everything. It has strategy, it has great gameplay, it has cute girls and it even has the meatiest management mode i've ever seen in a gacha.I think this game is great and I thank the developers for making such a great game and you anons for enjoying it with me.
>>493482001>He doesn't knowEnjoy it while you can, it probably started out fine because the intention was to make it a standalone but things had to change because the parent company needed money.
>>493480918Interesting about the Queen, was curious what the Elaman government was. >>493481854Is it that much? My god...
>>49348260754 to 55 is 2800. That's the level I'm on.
>>493482001I hope they do more pick tickets or other great deals, I want to continue supporting this game.
>>493482792They never did.
>>493482607i recently hit 52 and got that voyage momento dopamine, but it's 2400 from 52 to 53, it only gets worse from there, and momento is dead until 55 too
>>493482708Ahh that's a bit better.>>493482952Is there anything interesting in the higher voyage momento ranks?
>>493483167there's a trinket selector (with a very small pool) and a 2x gear selector
fine i guess i need cocoa
what are the best value packs whaleGODS
>>493487343retard
>>493464238i like the game even if im a luckletno i dont want to reroll, i have open overtime at work so i could hypothetically just work for an hour to get the SSR selector or whatever, rather than reroll for hoursi dont wanna whale either though, feels like u just skip the game when u do that
>>493487829the winning move is always to whale with your dickno resources, only chasing characters for fun
>>493487343The selector ticketThe monthlyThe super summon pack with 20 rolls for $15Monthly summon for $10 doesn't look bad either
Cocoa looks really cute bros
>>493487343Monthly 1 and monthly 2 (I forget the contents as you can't see them after buying.)Those are better value than the double-up bonus iirc. Aside from that, nothing is amazing, but the weeklies are a better conversion than straight gem purchases once you've exhausted the top-up bonus.The third monthly is "okay", I got it last month and will get it again when I want to stock up more (that's the 30 fate, 1 castalia package.)
>>493467558I haven't finished a run of Spiral either, that will change with the next update when your assists will retain their levels so you can just skip most of the battles and only focus on critical ones
>>493488013And yeah, obviously the selector is great. BP is also good desu (cornucopia.)
>>493487829based lucklet
>>493425087No because I have better taste in women
Newfag here.I installed the game and rerolled a few times, was trying to get Gloria. Got LilyWill + Beryl on an account. Should I stop rerolling or should I keep going?
>>493489949Good enough.If you're autistic enough to keep rerolling, you could play on that account if you want and keep rerolling on the side.Other options you have at your disposal is buying an account or waiting like a week to play and reroll for Cocoa+Someone else
>Subscription expirednyoooooooo my backtrack crutch
Radiant this season was so easyI can't believe newfags were dooming about this when it's basically free to stay on the toppest tier even if you miss several days
>>493490542I'm kinda busy this month, so I might not renew for now since Saffiyah/Auguste could be delayed.
>>493490658All doomposters are retarded, more news at eleven.Even ToA will be the same. Most people will be at tier 3/4 easily unless you don't play the game
>>493490658Depends on whether you're lucky, I know a giga lucklet day 1 player (All he has besides the starters is Teadon) and he just can't reach Radiant.>>493490739>He thinks people were just doomposting about TOA
>>493490739PVP is a linear grind, not a comparative ranking like ToA is. Completely different ranking systems, they aren't comparable.
>>493490739Pretty much. It's going to be another massive nothingburger as everyone gets most of the rewards in their sleep.
>>493490812Don't tell them that anon, they'll just call you a chink doomschizo even though they don't know that the devs never added substantial QOL, GVG, became more generous or did like literally anything else besides selling banners and story to sell banners. And did I mention making TOA to sell banners?
>>493490920A chink doomschizo that didn't play the game past the first two daysAt least get your shitposts right you clueless newfag
Another day, another scam
>>493491128>He thinks you can get to 50+ in two days
>>493491230that's been me pretty much the past week
>>493490887>>493490739Can't wait for it personally. More sources of gems and more content are always welcome!Game has been excellent so far so I look forward to more updates and what they can do.
>wasted 80 rolls to roll for Nono>get Momo insteadIts so joever
>>493489949Beryl is already good enough desu. I have a problem of having to bench people I like at this point, you will probably have the same problem after you roll ~150 timesThe Gold units are often better for some of my teams btw, so don't ignore them.
>>493491296>He says this when the devs banned people over complaining about signature weapons and PVP that was obviously meant to sell the signature weapons, and that's the next updateYou know what, the chinks are unironically based for giving the devs shit for thinking they were mindless metaslaves.
>>493490691Isn't that more reason to buy it though? It's pretty easy to just sweep your dailies in 60 seconds and buying it now that you have time to actually get the full 30 days means that you can save more for Safi+Auguste.While if you buy it when they get announced, you'll get like 20 days out of the 30 from the pass or barely one full pass.
>>493491230lucky ink hoarderI had heard that the "pen is mightier than the sword" setup gets really good when ToA releases
>>493491464They are mindless metaslaves, they complained because they were having trouble mindlessly following the changing metaKill all chinks
>>493491761>replying to the chinkschizo newfagdude barely played this gameunironically has spent way more time seething about it than playing it LMAO
>>493491761Yeah, wait until you see how unpleasant and intolerable TOA actually is. At least the chinks got to enjoy the comfiness of the game for a few months, you retards never even got that much.
>>493491631I'm more of a light spender, so I take breaks in my monthlies so it doesn't feel like a chore. I want them, but I'm okay if I miss them in the 50/50. I care about meta, but it's not the end all be all.
At 85 saved rolls right now, think I can get to 100 before Cocoa.How are you doing bros? Gonna be pretty comfy given that she's first. I didn't want to hard skip Auguste+Safi but them pushing Cocoa first lets me dump my whole load on her and just toss whatever at the other two
Also I'm playing other games atm that are taking more of my time than Convallaria.
>>493492376Not even going to bother touching my rolls at this rate.
>>493492376Cutest
>>493492376I just wanted Saffiyah, life is suffering.
>>493492376I got Edda and Simona on their first 10 pulls so I have about 130 rolls saved. I should be able to pity her if need be.
>>493492708>Mixed Vlderian and Irian heritageSo some irian went and fucked a Vlder?
Its funny to see all these metaslaves suffering because they can't get their Saffiyah
>>493492753This but Auguste.>TFW holding onto pity>TFW Auguste needs 4* anyway>TFW devs still haven't done a single bonus shard event
That's almost 20 rolls for free
>>493492708>no tailTouch Vlder Tail bros, how do we cope?
>>493492879Cocoa, Acambe, and Homa are all meta too you fucking retard. Maybe Acambe less because he needs too many conditionals like 5* Cocoa too.
>>493493005Yea but they are not crying like these Saffiyah cucks (and Auguste too) because muh DPS
>>493492994I'll touch her ears instead
>>493492989>For free>When people confessed they didn't even finish a single fucking route the first time
>>493492376I used every single one of my rolls getting Momo and NonoIt'll all work out though, I'm not worried
>>493493089Yeah, guess what do you need for the tower you absolute fucking retard.
>>493493107People forgot to use expiring potions too, it was still free stamina for the rest of us
You can just do critical battles in SoD. Just skip everything else.
>>493493248Well no shit, I've used all of my stamina potions before they expired and also finished two routes (Might as well put off Union for now though). That's still a mighty disingenuous thing to say.
>>493493298Sure if you want to speedrun bad ends because you have no faction relations or get yourself locked into a Riovanes Castle situation from not levelling
>>493493386That's like saying it isn't free when they give out currency in a log in event because some fat fucks are too lazy to click a button. It's still fucking free for anyone not a complete retard.
>>493493498>Riovanes CastleKek, that was a fun time.
https://www.reddit.com/r/SwordofConvallaria/comments/1faq0qa/how_does_the_assist_function_in_sod_work/Apparently we're getting a QoL that the TW version only got recently too. This means that we're going to get all the nice shit that TW has today from day1 and not have to suffer for months like they did.
>>493493498>Riovanes Castle
>>493493498Don't care, got 2500 jims.
https://tools.unitycoder.com/AssetStudioSpriteRecolorFromPalette/To turn grayscale sprites to colorYou need to rearrange the palette image colors and resize it to 256x1
>>493493683New Kid is a loserRamza's a big dick G
>>493493725>sprite sheetoh fuck this is bringing back 00s nostalgia. Quick someone edit her green and give her different bangs and call her your OC
>>493493659>Global will have the QoL to grind out exclusive weapons since day1comfy
>>493492376got Beryl Gloria Dantalion Simona with 55 pulls, holding 30 dollar selector for eos or innana, 300 pulls left for meta trannies
>>493493659>Apparently we're getting a QoL that the TW version only got recently tooIs that... IS THAT MORE FUCKING ACCELERATION? REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
>>493493659>nice shit that TW has todayLike what, better AI or mats conversion? LOL
>>493493659For the autists, apparently there's an achievement for not using any assists in a run so you might want to do your first run without using assists.
>>493493973Don't worry fellow totally obvious chinkschizo, they'll fail to realize that this still has to do with the gacha and that all the devs did for low-rank mats was to make an event where you can exchange a few at a time.
>>493493629qrd?
>>493495058You can save right before the fight in Riovanes Castle only to be BTFO by the boss and be unable to get out, which softlocks your game and forces you to start over. This battle is the reason every FFT player will tell you to make more than one save file.
>>493495058save point immediately before a notoriously difficult boss, if you saved and couldn't beat it your file was bricked
>>493495259Honestly though, looking back that moment was peak fucking kino.
>>493495403It was pretty good but for me it's the Orlandeau battle separated by the big gate
>>493492376Got about 140 rolls saved up for this cute rabbit, absolutely comfy. I couldn't give less of a shit about Saff or Auguste though, my end game is clearing all contents with a full Vlder team so next stop is Shaklulu.
>>493495506Yeah, some of the SOD fights are quite difficult but I'm quite disappointed that none of them managed to carry such a heavy weight or feel impactful.
I'm hoping there's enough of a gap between Cocoa and Homa to save if I have to go deep. I'm due to get fucked in this game.
>>493495707Assuming they do all the banners in order it's Cocoa, Acambe, Hasna and then Homa.
>>493495232Can't you just cheat through it?
>>493495850I'm assuming they're gonna try to sneak Saf or Auguste inbetween at some point. They probably know how strong they hold up and want to slot at least 1 after the banner post Cocoa.
>>493495934Anon...most of the people who played this blind would have been kids at that time.
>>493496031That's my assumption too and it'd seem to line up with why the devs went on crackdown even harder to avoid CCs spoiling their plans.
>oh I'll do it next week, I have plenty of time>ah the Cornucopia just ended, might as well wait so the progress counts for seasonal missions>well I still have a few days to clear it, just gotta pace myself2 AM on a Saturday huh? Time to unleash my inner gamer. I'm sorry sensei, I have to go all out just this once. Forgive me.
>>493496632You can't do it kid
cant log in its joever
man how fucking clear 6-5? The slimes are killing me and I can only push 2 to the void
>>493492376Saffiyah was my first choice but Cocoa too cute to skip. Gonna take the chance she doesn't take me deep and Saf ends up right after. Half hoping they throw a spiral update character banner in there to keep the getting all big three dream alive.
>>493493683Fuck off, Marche. Nobody likes you
>>493496632bricked
>>493498279I remember the first time I beat it as a shitter, I dragged them to the bottom room burning the path with Beryl.
>>493498279It's tough, I did it at 36 after many tries. I did it by rushing to the right side and slowly kiting/grinding and pushing the slimes until only Guzman was left. Even then I had to restart from scratch a few times when he scored too many crits. Bring a lot of strong watchers/ranged units and hope your melee tanks don't get critted lol
Oh yeah I'm 35 right now so maybe I shouldn't be trying for now?>>493498680>>493498753but I'll try both these and see what happens
Any advice for clearing the final battle in papal route good end?I'm getting my shit absolutely rekt after clearing the left and right side enemies.Once I pick my 3rd god blessing, they all come at me and just wreck everyone.Are there specific blessing I should be using btw?
>>493495934it's multiple fights before you can save and they can all be considered tough for different reasons. I remember the entire sequence being harder than any tower stage but that could be nostalgia talking
dead game
>>493397406>>493419887>>493420180>>493443998>>493453450>>493492376getting real tired of these redditors and their crying about luxite
>>493506473>Only redditors care about pulling in a gacha game
>>493492824Don't let Lutfi find out
>>493508096I only cares about waifus
>>493511048Bat best girlCat a shit
>>493492708>half-bloodeww gross, SKIP
>some Irian get to bang a Vlder to give birth to CocoaHot
>>493512657What do you think people buy female slaves for? It's not uncommon.
why does Acambe have a molten gold Vlder woman in his splash art? weren't Elaman Vlder slave owners? what did he mean by this?
>miscegenation
>>493513059What makes you think she's Vlder?
>>493513138the background art has multiple vlder woman on the mural
>>493513261And yet the gold woman lacks Vlderian features.
>>493513353you're right, wasn't paying attention to the lack of tail.guess (ourguy) isn't a furry then.
>>493513460Now that's just rude I like vlders but I'm not a furry
>>493513579v*derians or as i like to call them, viggers, are not human and should leave Iria immediately
Is Beryl a mixed race too
>>493514069Beryl is my wife.
>>493513059Acambe dipped a live vlder in molten gold, as she died painfully she hardened into a statue, forever preserved in her death throes.
>>493514069Beryl is an abomination of science
>>493513984Why is Lutfi so based and cringe at the same time?
Just hit 45, when should I start pushing for story to get engravings?
>>493492989This will be one of those so-called "events" that are timed according to account creation date right?
>>493515742Now, they only take 45 to unlock
I love Alexei so fucking much it's unreal. He's easily the best unit so far since you can just teleport him into the middle of a clusterfuck to both buy time and kill a bunch of enemies even if he ends up dying.
>>493515869>8-5 of fool's journey>Only on 5-1FUCK
>>493515939Chapter 7 is starting to slap me really hard halfway through and I'm 47. Not sure it's even doable without specific strats.
>>493397353Applied to VidyaUID: 4898Male MC profile picPls accept
>>493516141>Male MC profile picRejected
>>493516072I assure you it is, I went through all of 7 at 43-45 using a gimmick team of only Union unitsMissed a few stars but made it through fine
>>493516072Most of chapter 7 has a special regroup tactic spell it wants you to use, that's as far as I had to go for specific strats and then I had to wait for account level 40 or 45 whichever it is that unlocked chapter 8
>>493516283based
Inanna + GloriaTo get flag move effect on Inanna's guard on turn 1 you must deploy Inanna first (if Gloria is already deployed remove her then deploy her again)
>>493516950I always deploy Inanna last so this always work for me
>>493516950huh, so that's why she wasn't always buffing the summon
>>493493659So you can now play SoD with all your whaled characters instead of just 3? I guess that's cool, don't really care though.
>>493516072>>493516293I just did 7 at 43/44. It wasn't to bad aside from the last fight but as the anon said they want you to use regroup for a lot of the fights and that does make it easier. 7 as a chapter also has a lot of stage gimmicks to take advantage of.
>>493517438It's called assist mode and there's an achievement for playing the way the devs intended which is not using the assist mode at all
New player here, should I stop after getting the Tarots and move on to grind the other events or should I try to get as much as I could from this event?
>>493518185Get the legendary tarrots, legendary/epic ore, and tarrot essence. Plenty of time to do the other event
>>493518185No. Continue until the event ends. try to get the legendary ore and the star spike/glows too
I did 1 single on new banner at exactly 2% in like 250 pulls and got lilywill. thats the 2nd time at 2% rates a single has got me a ssr nowhere close to pity
This is too hard
>>493518456>>493518515Will do, thanks. Also, is it possible to get these quests done in a single run or do they require repeated tries and severe autism?
>>493518749Yes, those can be done in one route run
>>493518749One run is all that's required, or at least that's all it required for me. I actually had all the quests done before even finishing my run, still haven't finished that run in fact.
>>493518839>>493518928Cheers, seems like there's really no haste so I guess I could fuck around for a bit before trying to look for guides.
Toronto in nip translates "boom, boom, boom" seriously?>>493518680will get easier when you get to 50, use 2 seekers
>>493519097Would you prefer one of these instead?
>>493518680That one requires a bit of stats tweaking. You have to make sure your Angel have the highest M.DEF at all times.Also try to equip your units with The devil tarots
Where is Saffiyah!?I want to swipeI want to swipeI want to swipeI want to swipeI want to swipe
>>493519201I mean then just imagine how funny it would be to them when they hear there's a city called boomboomboom in the schoolshooted states
>>493519076> there's really no hasteThere isn’t but also don’t become this guy >>493496632. Remember a single SoD node takes several hours.
>>493496632Holy BRICK
>>493519480It's only a brick if he doesn't unleash his inner gamer
>>493519480
>>493518680Col makes this boss the easiest
So do I just break them down or is there some other use for these?
>>493520057there is apparently an inventory limit of 500 according to breakdown so you're gonna break those down sooner or later
>>493519097It's dodondon, deafanon. One of countless nip onomatopoeia/generic cute sounds much like stuff like kurae or moratta are generic fighting words.
>>493520137I imagine the same goes for the weapons
>>493520607yes
>>493497970shut up Jecht
>>493496632you can skip quests and only do critical battlesremember this, it will save your sanityyou can train units like 5+ levels with training optionUnits can be used at critical battles even if they're busy training/resting/whatever
>>493520350oh yeah I hear it now thanks, it's funny how you can almost roll a "d" sound
>>493519480I-I’m sure he made it…
>>493520607unless you ever end up scrambling for 20 lux by trading 10k coins into 5 starring garbage for the "X pieces of gear reach star level 5"... i say screw that
How do you fix SoD to make it more enjoyable
>>493519480I've missed the last 2 or 3 thingies (the ones that required you to complete a full run)No biggy
bricked myselfbring at least 3 units, i did not do the math
>>493522186bro the game even tells you what you're going to get on the left side
>>493522186>farming fecalwrong way around innit
>>493522931I'll get the free trio to 4 stars then I'll stop since I'll probably get spooked by them again when I pull for Cocoa
Who other than Lily on aids build uses this?
>>493496632Late-GOD...I kneelEnjoy the coffee
>>493523298well now that even makes sense, was just a humus joke though carry on
>>493523401agile eye if properly fluffed, or outlaw crossbowman
>>493518680Did it today at level 51 in 6 rounds with Dantalion, Col, Rawiyah, Angel, Abyss. Equip everyone but Abyss with devil. Need judgement with unlocked special ability on Abyss, park her 2 tiles away from boss' center tile. Only tactic needed is war horn, but urgent order might help also
why would you roll for Cocoa when you can just ticket the better and sexier support (Inanna)?
>>493524551Inane a
>>493524551Because I don't want Inanna
>>493524551I'm a luckchad and already got Inanna
>>493524551because i dont want xavier
>>493524551>bettersure>sexierno way fag
>>493525071If you end up with Xavier from trying to ticket Inanna that's entirely your fault
>>493525116she must bethe local men simply can't resist her and they won't let her resist them
>>493524551>rolling for halfbreed
>2 out of 241 legendariesI wonder how low I can go in this kusoge. 2% rates btw.
Magnus is probably my favorite character gameplaywise, that aoe basic attack is insane, you can counter with it, your singletarget nuke hits really fucking hard, you don't do less damage while injured, you passively debuff and buff both teams AND with tuning hammer every attack dispels. Why did it have to be a cool old man though...
Cocoa is sexier than Inanna
Is collision damage counted as piercing damage? I knocked two units into each other in 9-5 and they just fucking evaporated. The stage has 400% extra piercing damage
>>493526656Yes.
Is Nungal any good beside her tits?
>>493524551>disgusting female fantasy characterew no thanks
>>493492708>Mixed Vlderian and Irian heritageI fear to read the lore after unlocking her bonds. It might straight up says that she's a rapechild because this game is a grittier kind.
If you have Inanna in your acc, don't be surprised when bad things start regularly happening to you.
>>493526758you can have both on the same tile...yes she builds into effective single target magic dmg at high level but she's going to be underwhelming if you try to use her before then in her basic attack build
I can fix her
>>493524551Because they don't do the same thing bro.
>>493526883You're a fucking coward mate
>>493526691Momo is pretty fucking clutch, just knocked the 3 big guys into each other and took out like half their health
>>493526883Don't worry, she's born out of pure love. What ever happened to her parents is the real tragedy.
>274 rolls>2.19% rates>2 out of 6 legendaries were dupesHelp, how do I stop myself from dropping this game?
Ice bitch story unlock in 1 hour.
>>493528764Just drop it and don't look back bro.
>>493528764quit now. come back to gacha when you unlock the luck skill.
>Simona event >the story is just shilling Alexei and his faction instead and Simona is treated as the bad guy....
>>493530319>Story is shilling Alexei and his faction>Doesn't actually add Agatha until so much later that she became almost as much of a meme as Lutfi>Also didn't bother adding in the SRsNice going devs
i want more hags. when is the next hag
>>493528764why would you drop it?
No hags, more lolis
should i take resentment broom to 60 for momoit's really tailor made for her, and it's not like i'll be using her against bosses regardless i just wish it provided some benefit to her strike backs/alerts
>>493531526I think Momo wants the wand that gives 10% HP
>sounds like it could be interesting>pvpjk nevermind
>>493531526>>493531625I use the BP staff on her because she's super NRG hungry
>>493531526Alert is considered a single target attack
>>493531672the pvp is a nothingburger and extremely easy to get max rewards
>>493531672Just don't do them 4head
OK I think I'm done with this game. Gacha has been pissing on me since the start. Have fun bros, I'm out.
>>493532257play spiral once it's pretty gud and your luck doesn't matter there (don't take iria route the translation is shit)
>>493531625i guess that's a safe choice since it's also good on anyone, but simona's using it currently for me. focus wand on beryl because i use her for chuu, and diffusing prism on lash>>493531687>11 bucksehhh, i haven't minded using a basic attack here and there for nrg restore, between positioning and enemy groupings i haven't found it too troublesome>>493531784yeah that's why it's unfortunate
>>493532257Godspeed bro.
>>493532595>using momoI thought you were a meta slave?
Smile status: Unprotected
Why are basic towers hitting me for 3k?
>>493534483pierces defense
Buy rolls for Nonowill or buy SMT V Vengeance?
>>493535789Buy NonoWill.
does lash's trait trigger after using Dark Withering?despite not dealing damage directly, it is technically an attack that is targeting enemiesi regret thinking i wanted more support and chose her other skill on that branch
>>493526079nothing beats teary eyed hair down disheveled Inanna getting raped by peasants
story event Act XI has unlocked
>>493535789Pirate SMT, get your waifu
>>493535789>buy waifu or buy faggotHard choice bwo
I'm going to impregnate all the Vlder girls and make hybrids like Cocoa
>>493535789Buy the game that has real content, obviously.
To you faggots that said>The game will railroad you to Lutfi route first :)Fuck youNow I have to do this shitty route again just to get the fucking beacon and unlock Gloria's first story recordFuck you
>>493535789pirate SMT V broyou can't pirate nonowill so
>>493537454>you can't pirate nonowilYour 30k gold bro???
You ARE pulling for Acambe instead of the smelly Vlder, right?
Can you VPN to Japan for the topup?
>>493539119>predictions>not a single one was accurateebin
>>493539119>Cocoa higher ranked than Acambe naruhodo
>>493535789>buy nonowill from an elaman slave merchant then pirate smt vI question /socg/s problem solving skills
>>493539119Doesn't Cocoa feed NRG to Acambe?
I regret pulling Lilyvia
>>493539119>Actual P2W character who needs a P2W weapon and another P2W character as supportNo.
>>493539194nah, its tied to where the account was created if you want the 5% discount on site
>>493539598Who does Acambe need as support?
>>493537449How did you do it?I did the Order route 2 times and it never let me choose between stall the investigation or help Gloria right away, only when I used her beacon but for that, I had to go through Lutfi route first
>>4935398625* Cocoa is practically mandatory if you want to get mileage from him because of her trait, you're losing somewhere around 50% damage if you don't have her.
>>493540083>roll cocoa>roll acambe>get 1 bpPretty cheap desu
>>493540007I have no Idea. I just keep helping Gloria and Ignore Lutfi. I did state that I trusted Lutfi in the journal at the beginning though
>>493540083thats lame, i wanted to use inanna as my support instead for a full summoner team
>>493539628Thanks, that sucks.
>>493540495>innana, acambe, saffiyah, cocoaf2p btw
How many times do I have to see my dear LilyWill die... I'm going insane!
>>493540216>Get 1 BPLol no, 5* BP staff too.
>>493540689havent extensively tried it though so mught be a work around but getting the 5%+weak jap currency is impoosible unless you made the account with a vpn
>>493540818just be lucky bwo
>>493541000sure dude let me just kill myself to reroll as a texan oil tycoon
>>493541000I don't care about Acambe or Cocoa, nor am I giving a single cent.
>struggling for my life with a full army of allies on the right>this little NPC nigga solos the entire left sideI should be embarrassed
>>493541192he channelled the spirit of the 3-13 archer
>>493541296>3-13 archerHis ancestor, smiling down upon him
>>493540818That's pretty cheap. The only issue is waiting 5 months.
>>493541192He doesn't had to deal with the ice bitch.
>>493541192Man how do you guys struggle in Spiral
Simona getting knotted by Alexei
>>493541578>SpiralIt's the event though
>>493541428Problem is that the BP is pretty rubbish anyway, might as well pick some other DPS.
>>493541640Nevermind then
sex with a brat
Today, I made it to 10-1 this week too. Let's do our best next week again bros!
>>493542068this, but a hag
having a whole lot of fun on these new event maps watching the 75 AI units fight each other for 5 minutes before i can move!
>>493543381Don't worry bro, you can also have fun holding down the button to make them go faster because fuck just having a toggle for this.
>>493541657???the BP is pretty good value
>>493543637It's shitYou don't even get 100k dust from them
>>493543612trust me i've had 2x held down the entire time
>>493543984the gems and castallia are already good for the costthe rest is just a bonus
>>493543984This, hell if I remember whether Genshit's BP was any better after you've played for a while but Genshit also let you convert your fucking mats.>>493544000RIP then.
>>493543984>He's still dust filtered not ore filtered
>>493544130The gems are quite literally the worst value possible as it's a simple 1:1 conversion. The only thing BP actually has in it that's worthwhile is the weapon and some resources you can farm anyway, that's it.
NEW>>493545002>>493545002
>>493544657It's a bit more than 1:1 conversion on gems, but you get a castallia and a trinket and the corn weapon.