cool bot editionLast >>493272654>WHAT IS HELLDIVERS 2?HELLDIVERS 2 is a 2024 co-op, squad-based, PvE 3rd person shooter for PC and PS5 where players fight against hordes of alien insects and robots to Spread Democracy. Players wage war on a number of contested planets, each with a different environment, completing as many objectives as possible within a procedurally generated area while constrained by a time limit. With enough successful operations a planet can be completely liberated, and the player base must cooperate to try to liberate the entire galaxy by focusing and combining their efforts as much as possible.https://store.steampowered.com/app/553850/HELLDIVERS_2/https://www.playstation.com/en-us/games/helldivers-2/>WHAT ABOUT THE FIRST HELLDIVERS GAME?Released in 2015 for PC, PS3/4 and PS Vita, the original HELLDIVERS is the origin of the setting and basic gameplay formula of HELLDIVERS 2. The major difference is that HELLDIVERS is a top-down shooter, its mechanics being based primarily on Arrowhead's previous game Magicka.https://store.steampowered.com/app/394510/HELLDIVERS_Dive_Harder_Edition/https://www.playstation.com/en-us/games/helldivers/>INFORMATION RESOURCEShttps://helldivers.wiki.gg/wiki/Helldivers_Wikihttps://helldiverstrainingmanual.com/https://helldiverscompanion.com/https://helldivers.io/https://invadersfromplanet.space/helldivers-2/>NEWSAugust 6: Escalation of Freedom Update https://store.steampowered.com/news/app/553850/view/4339865428695343823August 13: A message from the devs https://store.steampowered.com/news/app/553850/view/4339866697736692015August 20: 1.001.004 Patch https://store.steampowered.com/news/app/553850/view/6992487606095723693August 21: 1.001.005 Hotfix https://store.steampowered.com/news/app/553850/view/4252047773008305837
My drawing is in the op, i fucking made it :)
steam://joinlobby/553850/109775242940578168/76561198070044660d10 bug
>>493435758put it on the resume buddy
>>493435827Say when it's full you stupid retard
>>493435827full
>>493435827what happened?
>>493436221I would also like to know, I interrupted my gooning sesh for this spot
>>493436445I think host must have killed himself live in the lobby and deadman switched his pc.
>>493436221>>493436445Sorry, full!
That Gloom thing still not done
>>493436773I was in thoughkicked apparently
>>493436885I hope when the fart gas clears all the planets that used to be there are just gone
>>493436886Good, nobody likes you.
>>493436974I want them all to become moons
>>493436886I was in and it said host left.
>>493436221>>493436445>>493436712>>493436886the game is shitting itself. i had two drops just trying to join
>>493437146You have pub aidsTime to verify
steam://joinlobby/553850/109775242940920655/76561198126520852D10, whatever.
It's overPub AIDS won
>>493437353i always wrap it before launch buddy
>>4934360953/4
>>4934373682/4, get in!
swedes can't make games
>>4934373683/4, please join.
I just read the news, they're going to kill this game next update, right?>60 days for a complete overhaul of weapons armor and health of enemies
>>493437368Full
>>493439012It's going to be the last update we get this year before they go on another vacation, probably leaving the game in a still completely broken state.
>>493439294How the fuck can a nation's economy stay afloat if it only works for three months out of the year?
>>493439386I honestly have no idea.
>>493439012They buffs will probably be good news but the side effect is that the spaghetti code will strangle itself and the game will be unplayable and crash at every turn
>>493439478Yeah that's what I imagine, shit is going to break left and right.Have they fixed the fucking ballistic shield killing you yet?
how much interest do we have in a third concurrent lobby
>>493439386Arms dealing and flat pack furniture keeps the whole thing afloat
>>493439386Proper taxation management.
>>493440134Lol I still can't even close the game without using control panel
>>493439386go read about sweden's economy. it's not a secret or anything, take the opportunity to learn
friday night drink and dive10 bots on Sheltsteam://joinlobby/553850/109775242946015693/
>>493439386worker productivity 600% higher than the US average due to not having heir souls sucked out by 18 hour no paid overtime no sick leave wageslavery
>>493442567cursed lobby, verifying files and rehosting
>>493442567>now they hostI'm gonna spank you, sis.
>>493442567They didn't even give me a fucking disconnect message this time.
>>493442567>>493443373verified files twice in a row, restarted PC, bought Super Citizen Edition, etc etcsurely it'll work this timesteam://joinlobby/553850/109775242948222677/
>>4934445202/4>>493444253join this lobby if you are so great
>>493444520failed to join
>Die because your diver spontaneously combusts as if he were made of methane and conveniently gets ragdolled so you can't dive (the most realistic way to put out fires)Such genius could only be thought of by Sweden.
>>493439386through the wonders of equality and progress, or as the unindoctrinated call it, massive heaps of unsustainable debt
>>493439386ignore what anyone says to youthey have vast natural resources which they export, combined with staying out of major wars and having weak neighbors on all sidesit's just a protected little garden
>missed the lobbyFine, I'll make my own!steam://joinlobby/553850/109775242949540966/76561198121770582
>>493444520>>493445006lobby closed, everyone keeps crashing, another guy will host insteadsorry bros
>>493445640wrong map, though that one is very interesting tooalways remember that Utopia cannot exist in this world
>>493445578>Dive onto a tiny rock>Ragdoll, your diver takes 30 seconds to try and stumble to his feet>Get chomped to bits or blasted into swiss cheese during this timeWhy can't I recover prone
steam://joinlobby/553850/109775242949827642/76561198010165757>>493445808>privateJust join me.10s
>>493445808says lobby is private>>493445838thanks for trying anon
>>493445640>>493445883bro nobody knows what half those countries are if there aren't labelswe can't even put our own states on a map let alone yourope
>>493445993>>493446062oops, public now, thought it was public since people joined already3/4
>>493445640>>493445883this isn't counting unpaid balances on mortgages and cars as debt, is it? I bet it is...
>>493446107full, sorry! Maybe next time
>>493446156household debt as in government debtSwedes love their kabbalistic masters so much that they're on the fast track to become entirely owned by creditors
>>493446375>household debt as in government debt
>>493443340>worker productivity 600% higherin everything except the vidya game industry?
>>493439012>60 days for some number changes, half of it spent doing ONE balance patchFixed it for you
>>493447165Retard.
I'm sick of Twinkbeard stoking the hype
>>493447342You didn't say I was wrong though
>>493448018He seems like a very fake nice guy. I can’t stand people like that.
Anyone else having troubling boarding the ship after joining a lobby/randoms? Every time I try I am stuck at the loading screen where you view the destroyers prior to boarding. I can chat, but I never get on the ship.I verified files today as well.
>>493449319yes that just starts to happen sometimes for some inexplicable reasonmaybe ranjeet took a liquid shit in the wonky google servers this shit runs on
>>493449319yeah
Think they'll do something cool like tease the Illuminates in the next State of Play?
>>493450896
>>493445808ragequit3/4
>>493449010you just know he smells like pickled herring
hmmm
>>493451489Should have excercised more so it took you less time relaxing around.
War bond when
>>493451489nice self-dox bro
>>493451489
>>493451957
>>493451489Bots is so ass
Railgun doesn't need supply pack if you're just using it to delete scout striders and hulks in one shot.
>>493451957We all know each other
>>493452768What if I want to use it more than that though
>>493452768It hardly needs a supply pack in the first place. There just aren't enough devs on the map that don't immediately get deleted by reds/HMGe/DCS. You can use it against every heavy dev, rocket dev, rocket strider, and hulk you see (that's not imminently going to get raped by barrages/airstrike) and you usually won't run out of ammo until resupply spawns.It only begins to struggle when you have a spear autist or someone else who vacuums up all the ammo on the map AND when you're playing on a team that separates and calls their resupplies poorly. Pretty specific shit, but you can typically always handle the ammo without the pack unless you're also using it against zerkers and gunships all the time.
wtf why didn't anyone tell me an Angels biome is open
>>493439012If there is another collective chimpout because of the tiniest fucking nerf being in the patch, intentional or not, then yes this will be the end.
>Get flinched 5 fucking times out of my stim before I try to dive and heal while on the ground.>Beamed to death mid dive anyway.Flinch/ragdoll loops, and no I-frames forced standing up animation effectively being a stun are the worst parts of this game by far.
>>493454007You should be allowed to default to prone out of ragdoll. Nobody would reasonably stand up to stick their head into a heavy dev stream, yet you’re forced to every time his buddy throws you
>>493453995they should nerf the autocanon by making it only have 5 shots between reloads instead of 10
>take some ammo out of my pack>animation plays>sound plays>no ammo is taken from the pack3 times in a row during a game last night
>been awhile since I checked the mod page>massive fuck ton of halo themed modsMS is genuinely retarded for shooting down a coop game for halo, especially given how popular firefight is in halo and horde in gears of war. Are just doomed to watch game companies have contests to see who can out retard who.
Do I need to flip the RG to unsafe to one tap devs?
>>493455429>Are just doomed to watch game companies have contests to see who can out retard who.It's what's been happening for what, 15 years now? It's only going to get worse until the video gaymes industry crashes again. Inshallah these cretin devs will lose their jobs and never make another game.
>>493453995They literally cannot nerf anything without people throwing a shitfit over it. They could release a new marksman rifle and accidentally make it to 2000 damage instead of 200 and people will fucking riot if they """""nerf"""" it by correcting the number
>>493455906uhh, I don't think so, it even one shots Hulks in safe mode.
>>493455906If you aim for unarmored parts like the stomach, legs or head, no. Accounts differ on if an Unsafe shot will kill through the armored torso though, purportedly you need 80% to guarantee a chest shot.
>>493454007In fairness, you should just be dead after getting hit by a salvo of rockets, not sure why they do wet noodle damage.
They should give eruptor pen 4 it'd be perfect.
>>493455906>>493456585devastator chest has 425 HP and 30% durability. railgun on safe mode does 600 normal damage and 60 durable damage so the adjusted total is 438 damage.
Dead shit game. Death to snoy.
>>493456246That's because AH would make it 20 damage and 10 durable damage, making it so you need 2 mags to kill a medium sized enemy.
Wait a second, why is the Liberator Penetrator so bad?
>>493453518we're all burnt out anonvery few of us really care anymore
>>493457974no damage, small mags
>>493457974even if you can penetrate a hive guard's face, if it takes your entire magazine to kill just one of them it's kind of pointless
>>493457974Lot of AP3 primaries get cucked hard since when they’re good they overshadow most everything
>>493457974Dogshit damage. The Adjudicator is literally just a better Lib Pen because of that.
>>493457974don't worry it's getting buffed in 2 weeks ;)
>>493458083>>493458102Yeah, I was just looking at it and it's basically an Adjudicator but half damage.
>>493458373fairly certain every AR past lib pen was basically an attempt at creating a satisfying AR (hence why the old ones pale in comparison), and they still haven't got there yet even with the tenderizer
>>493458356>lib pen gets +5 damage[spoiler>]and -5 durable damage[/spoiler]
>>493458745>fucked up my spoilerEh whatever, I don't even care anymore.
>>493458745>>493459037ctrl+s while highlighting the text, dummy
>>493459483I did, originally the > was gonna be outside the spoiler and when I was moving it inside obviously I wasn't paying attention.
>>493457974Basically what the other anons said, it's worse than the Adjudicator in every measurable way.Not only did they take away a third of its magazine versus the stock Lib, they also cut its damage by 25%. So against enemies with 1 armor or less (read: every single chaff enemy and most medium sized enemies), it's strictly inferior to stock Lib, while against enemies with 2 armor (a handful of bugs and only against their armored spots) it's effectively equal. The only time it's better is against enemies with 3 armor where stock Lib would do zero damage, and virtually all of them have unarmored body parts you can shoot instead.At least when the Adjudicator shoots at unarmored enemies, it still deals damage.
They should let the purifier light stuff on fire like plasma could be upgraded to do in the first game
>>493459656Well, the only thing I dislike about the Liberator is how slowly it kills Alphas, but the Lib Pen barely does any more damage to them.
it's ok railcannon-kun I can handle the tank
>>493458480tenderizer is fine for bots, bugs problem is you either need deep mags, alot of mags, or heaps of deeps. which is why the player base gravitated towards the breakers for bugs. Adjudicator is fun until you realize it doesn't always one tap scavs. they either need to start making primary weapons (especially ARs) with specific faction use cases or break out the customization tools already
ggs>>493460580mine missed the same tank AND strider and killed a random rocket chicken instead like 5 seconds before thatworth it
>>493459992That's because Alpha Commanders are unarmored, except for the head. Stock Lib will do half damage against the head, but it has more rounds per mag so on a per-mag basis it does equal damage to Alpha Commander heads, Lib Pen just does it a bit faster.The only two bugs where Lib Pen will make a difference over stock Lib are Hive Guards and Bile Spewers, and only if you don't just use explosives or your support weapon instead. Against bots your only concern is Devastators, and only if you shoot at their armored chest instead of going for the head like you should. Gunship thrusters are too durable to matter.
Is the game currently fucked for anyone else? Can't join a game tonight.
silky smooth 45 fps
>>493460854Are you having this issue?: >>493449319
>>493460854Completly close out steam using task manager then try again. Worked for me.
>>493461010It progressed to that point yeah.
Is catbox down for anyone else? I remember reading that you can use streamable to make links for the audio extension for boards without webm audio but the audio I uploaded to streamable isn't working. Says it isn't a video so it won't play.
>>493461641>first walks off screen>oh thank goodness, he should have time to get up and dive backwards before the second->first walks back into framemy condolences anon
>>493461641Forced to stand after being ragdolled needs to fucking change. Recovery needs to be ragdolled -> prone and it needs to be super fast
>>493460821Main issue is it seems to take almost the entire mag to pop an Alpha's head which still means I need to dodge or melee its headless attacks and reload before I fight anything else. That's a long period of vulnerability compared to Punisher/Cookout which would stagger and have plenty of rounds left.
>>493462306guys, you can't melee the hulk.
>>493462123Use the slugger or the dominator
>>493460635>Adjudicator is fun until you realize it doesn't always one tap scavs.You want to know why? scav bodies have 80HP. How much damage does the adjudicator do? yup. 80. damage fall-off cucks the adjudicator against fucking scavengers
>>493435758I love your stuff drawdiver.If helldivers put as much work into their game as you do your art.....We actually are probably looking at that scenario nvm
>kill a behemoth in my face>its corpse slides about 10 meters on top of me and the corpse causes my body to ricochet into the ground and back up into its corpse like a pinball machine >death by impactchargers are the worst
>>493462740Woah, the Dominator looks crazy powerful. Almost like a grenade launcher.
>See Gunship fire a volley of missiles at me>Dive to avoid it and get the reduced explosion damage>Firing volley hits me in midair and launches me into the ground at high speed>Death by impact
>>493463504Careful, those heavy devastators tend to be extremely accurate on their third burst.
erm AMR sissies?
>>493463580>not just reversing your direction of movement for half a second to juke themcome on son
>20k peak on a Friday night>4k less compared to last weekGrim
>>493462750It should be mandatory that every primary and secondary in the game should 1-tap a scav
>>493463406That's how to do it. Get in cover during their third burst and stand in the open otherwise, they won't be able to touch you.
I know some of these shots went way off target but I swear I've made AC shots with worse angles than this.
>They are fixing all the weapons being shit by buffing the best weapon in the gameWhat the actual fuck are they thinking? nobody wanted that at all, they just want other weapons to not be total horseshit
>>493463867the shot that kills it was the only one that was actually fired while the aim point was high enough to get the correct deflection angle off the vent cover. you're not supposed to try and land a shot into the back of the vent but off the cover. you know that, right?
>>493461872The forced to stand up bullshit wouldn't even be half as obnoxious as it is if the animation had I-frames, but it doesn't. Because these nigger devs have literally never played videogames where getting knocked on your ass and getting up is a thing, like Monster Hunter, or literally any fighting game ever.
>>493464730I didn't put any audio in that one but I'm pretty sure all my shots missed and someone's grenade pistol was what did that fabricator in. I know about how you're supposed to ricochet the explosives in though I guess I was just being stupid. Usually I don't aim super high on fabs with the AC though, I've been keeping my shots aimed towards the middle of the flaps. Should I be aiming higher?
>>493435827>failed to joinKys
Even if the changes introduced in the new patch are overwhelmingly positive, which I doubt, I have basically zero faith in AH to get down to brass tacks and fix all the fucking bugs that have been piling up in the known issues list since launch. More than anything, the thing that keeps me from playing is the fact that even if the stars align and I get a good match going, there's a pretty decent chance the game will arbitrarily crash or disconnect me anyway. They ought to work on making the game reliable with their buggy antique engine instead of being so neurotic about balanceAlso fix the fucking thermite grenades and throwing knives, why are these even in the game
>>493465176The higher on the cover the more consistent the ricochet.
If they're gonna do anything to nerf the hulk, it should be making it so shooting at it outside of its weakzones should punch holes in it and damage it. It's real retarded to miss a hulk's eye by a pixel and then do fuck all damage against it with a railgun of all things.
>>493451489>cover directly to the right>runs straight away and remains in the line of firecum on now
comfy but there's barely any fucking cover from bots
>>493465710This biome is actual hell, regardless of faction or planet. A beautiful hell, but hell nonetheless.
>>493463867oh yeah, i hate when this shit happens and a teammate is right next to me. fucking embarrassing
>>493465539>It's real retarded to miss a hulk's eye by a pixel and then do fuck all damage against it with a railgun of all things.But you do. The hulk body has 5 armour and railgun has 5 pen on safe mode. You are still doing damage to the hulk with the railgun even if you miss the eye.
lobby lobby lobbylobby please lobbylobbylobbylobbylobby
Head25% durable
>>493466846Head95% durable
>Bugtard blob is so retarded that they're sitting on Pandion, a foggy jungle shithole biome, instead of Trandor - which is a planet with the best biome in the game.It's gonna be collective retardation or something with these chimps.
steam://joinlobby/553850/109775242970468858D10
>>4934671872/4
>>493465873Getting caught out in the open with barely any cover while striders snipe me from another zip code is how my night is going so far on this beautiful hellhole
>>493467187Full
>want to get back into the game>ISP is being a fuck and completely cutting off my internet at sporadic and unpredictable moments>can't even complete a fucking evacuation mission without the risk of arbitrarily disconnecting>this has been happening consistently for the last week or twoIf someone (who is not me or anyone I know, by the way) were to commit unspeakable atrocities at Comcast's headquarters, I would not feel sad in any way, shape or form.
>>493465710It's literally crimsica recolored. It's a bunch of rocks ... not actually a woodland paradise
>>493467602It's a tundra, you ESL.
>>493467461are you me
>>493467187>Crash
steam://joinlobby/553850/109775242973124486/76561198010165757d10 game, d10 general
Can't you guys host d6 or something for us newfolk
>>493469802sure why not>>493469620we'll run this one as a d6 instead
>>493467461Same. I've stopped hosting games because I feel bad for isp going down and causing my whole team to disconnect. I don't think the new kick protection prevents a host DC situation.
>>493469802>ask for a lobby>dont joinwhy
>tryng to get into d8, let's join a ma->timed out, blackscreen pop back into my ship>Okay let's try agai->2/4 can't join sessioin full>Okay, how about this one? 3/4 100+ lobby sounds smooth, they might know what they're doi->can't join because session is fullFINE I'll fucking do it myself
>>493465431It was mentioned somewhere thermite is in this patch. Knife is total ass right now but I've heard consistent rumors that it will be able to go through squid shields when they release.
>>493469004retard
>>493467461if you've gone through the normal routes ie. calling support, going into your local comcast office and talking to them, then the next thing you can do is track down your regional supervisor or someone higher up. dig around on linkedin and send them an email. be civil and explain that you've made the effort but haven't gotten anywhere. bonus points if you can point to you losing money by not having internet. it sounds annoying, but it works.
>>493469620why u kick me?
>>493470513You should host a lobby. And link it here.
>>493470980didn't, it said you left and i alt f4d out after waiting too longhost and i'll join
>>493465431Throwing Knife will go through the shield and one-shot an Illuminate elite.
>>493471105nah i always get the shit where everyone disconnects at random multiple times a game
>>493471209looks like it disconnected you there too so who knows
>>493471270swedes
steam://joinlobby/553850/109775242974074235/76561198024623656Bots D10. Hopefully this lobby works.
>>493471663>unable to jointhe FUCKING gummy pubby gave me fucking PUB AIDS and i cant fucking PLAY THE GAME anymore i fucking VERIFIED three times and i still cant join any fucking gameswhat is this game's fucking problem holy shit
>>493471663Oh for fucks sake.
>>493471663where'd i go?
>>493471894I have no idea man. I've verified twice today and restarted my PC once. I did have someone join for all of ten seconds. The cryopods actually cycled and spat him out but he wasn't even able to walk all the way up the stairs before being disconnected. And while typing this he tried again and didn't even make it out the pod this time. Was there actually a patch Thursday that fucked the game up? Is something up with the servers?
>>493471663Right I'm going to try a revalidation and restart. Don't join that link. >>493472247Unable to join game.
>>493472428holy aidsverifying
>>493472459Look, I played pubs a bit, we all had to have at some point before we even started direct linking lobbies to try and get around the queue from the early days. It's definitely been bad lately, though every time I've revalidated today I haven't had to reacquire any files.
>Major order with my favorites mission opening up>Can't play because there a huge storm outsideEverytime.
>>493472671all i did was try and join you and quit out btw, verified right before this
>>493472902Yeah right after I gave my shpeal about how revalidating didn't do anything for me I had 1 file missing. steam://joinlobby/553850/109775242976359943/76561198024623656Ok, take 2.
>>493472902always verify, quit and reverify. then between missions, quit and reverify. remember your ABV's, always be verifying
>>493473203lol!
steam://joinlobby/553850/109775242976448568/76561198073214698Bot 10
>>4934732033/4
>>4934734562/4
>>4934734562/4, this lobby works
>>493473203not host but get in here this lobby is alive 3/4
Spore chargers are miles worse than Impalers
>>493473456Don't join this lobby his gens are shit.
>>493473783
>>493473456>blackscreened to lobbyok, i die
>>493474519Join my lobby instead. We've got Helldives, blackjack, and hookers. In fact, forget the blackjack. And the hookers. >>493473203
>>493473203your lobby is literally unjoinable bro it's not even >failed to joinit's>unable to join
>>493474758What the fug I've got two other divers in here right now. What the hell is going on.
>>493471082Might after this match, got good people and we mostly didn't die too muchplus never linked a lobby here, I'm scared
>>493474894shams saw that we>SAT HERE>POSTING LOBBIES>MENACINGLYand he's personally shutting down our lobbiesdo you have me blocked? name ends with J
>>493475105Well uh, don't do it now mine's full and we just started. Don't be scurred tho.
>>493473203Full!>>493475217No Blocks on my end
Somebody who is tech savvy needs to figure out what is that 1 file that keeps on getting corrupted.
>>493470807nigger
>>493476014it happens when you alt f4 out you'd just look at the exact size of every file in the primary directory after verifying then after alt f4ingyou'd narrow the file down by layer each time until you found exactly where it was, at which point you could find exactly what it is, copy it somewhere, then just paste it back each time you alt f4 out or play the game and leave manuallyit'd be really helpful because it'd save the whole process of verifying and sending a formal bug report (getting me access to the closed beta because im a chad who put in all the work), but i'm lazy
>>493453995But I thought all those people quit the game?>>493456246Redditors are not people.
What websites/resources does one go to for reliable numbers data? I'm talking about shit that isn't in the links in the OP, like recoil forces and handling drag.
wtf, where is the napalm barrage?
>>493478710Going to be unlocked after this MO
>defend bug planets>kill automatons>kill bugs>defend automaton planetsSTOP WITH THE FILLER AAAAAAAAA
>>493478710>>493479006>Napalm is gone alreadyI hate Swiggers fucking much it's insane>>49348193110 day until their first patch of their promised 60 fix-a-thoncan't have fun during that time anon
>>493479006Unlikely. They'll make sure it's available by the 19th though.
Bruh, this Dominator is cuhrazy. I forgot I even had the MG-43 with me. I guess you just take Commando with it.
>Lib Pen. AP3. 1,350 damage per mag. 480 dps.>Jar Dom. AP3. 4,125 damage per mag. 1,145 dps.wtf, why is sweden like this?
>>493484003freecosts extra
any lobbies?
>>493484003Lib Pen is one of those weapons you use as a D3 freebie player who doesn't have the money to buy warbonds.
>>493484421but the slugger!
>>493438548>swedes can't make games
steam://joinlobby/553850/109775242989377093/76561198089573526bots 10
>>493485102>factorio, but boring because all you do is build with no threat or motivationSwedes can't make games
>>493485102>early access for 5 years>still a pale imitation of factorio in an inferior perspective
>>493485187>unable to joinactually fucking killing myselfwhy is my game broken
holy shit the patch where they nerf the fuck out of heavily armored enemies and making rocket devs and gunships having limited rockets can't come soon enough
>>493485005average_bot_experience.mov
>>493485285try reinstalling i guess, sometimes that unfucks things that can't be unfucked otherwise
>>493485005
>>493485187closing this lobby since nobody joined
>>493486408I tried. Couldnt join
Whoever recommended the sickle in the last thread, thanks. Feels like it's juuuuust close enough to what I'm looking for. Pairing it with the railgun when it needs to cool down feels pretty solid. Fun loadout, fun primary.Hopen they fix the other big boy rifles to feel like this.
I cannot into transparency channels with WebmGenerator.
>Sweden is just reverse Japan>great place to live and build a career with 5000 vacations everyday>horrible country to expect anything from and visit because of the high costs that is only affordable if you work there due to being paid very wellWhat a fucking place
>>493486930it's the one assault rifle that isn't constantly interrupted by reloading. there are several others with considerably better damage or pen (or both) but being able to unload nearly 100 rounds on a horde when most of the others tap out at 30 is just nice.
>>493486979>apply for asylum in sweden>get anything you want>apply for asylum in japan>they laugh and sink your boat
>>493487662one day they'll let us team load without wearing the backpack.
>>493487662It's amazing how fucked up the teamloading animations are, just look at the loaders fucking spaghetti arms bending in the most messed up ways possible
>>493487948Cause it doesn't make any fucking sense. How does another guy twisting his arm out to yank out a round from his backpack and load it into your gun make the reload any faster than if you did it yourself? It's the same thing except with one more idiot involved.
>>493487083I honestly wouldn't say they're considerably better in damage. It's 55 to 60, while the sickle has a higher shot per second.41,250 DPM vs 38,400 DPMAnd I can just keeeeeep shooting.Also love just the feeling of sweeping the sickle and chewing through hordes of enemies.
>>493488134almost sounds like thats the joke
>>493488190the tendie does 95 damage per bullet, the adjudicator does 80 with pen 3, and the conc is 65 but also has a massive 23 durable damage shame its DPS is in the shitter because lol 320 rofbut like, i'm not trying to convince you to use something else, i use the sickle too because it just -feels- better than the other ARs.
>>493485005>>493485943Playing bots must be what it's like to be an enemy in a DMC game. Just bullied hard and endlessly with bullshit stunlock airjuggling combos
>>493487662That looks GAY
>1 month since last big patch>peak player count is significantly less than before the patch, an all-time low and droppingIs it over?
>>493488918>comparing to all time highwho carescs2 wont ever compare to its all time high either, most games wontthat shit happens on release
>>493488918It is. Even if the patch brings back another 25k beyond the first month, which I think is generous for a month, the game is done. Oh it will limp along for years but literally everyone will know the game was not even close to what it could have been due to sheer hubris.>>493489136>who cares the game lost millions of playersSnoy. Considering ALL of their "live service" games are crashing and burning or being pulled from service within 2 weeks.
>>493488757What? No, it's not gay. It's a guy with a full load filling my backpack up from behind so I can fill up the long thick hard tube of the guy in front of me so he can blast hot loads of shrapnel on everything that his admittedly not so girthy but certainly lengthy muzzle sweeps across. Hey, wait a minute....
>>493489221I honestly don't see any path to reclaim even a modest amount of players. They could snap their fingers and fix every issue tomorrow and while it would go back up a bit everyone has seen their true colors now and know it would just be a matter of time before they fuck it up again.
>>493489382>I honestly don't see any path to reclaim even a modest amount of playerssurerelease the illuminate
>>493489221the game was always going to lose millions of players, that's what all games always doservers are piss cheap, and people will continue to buy HD2warbond releases will continue to allow the game to stay afloat because boomers just drop $10 on the battle pass every couple monthseven if only 1% of the purchasers continue to purchase passes/DLC, you're still making $~1.2mil/60 day period, and $1.2mil/30 day period once they get back on the fast warbond release schedulethey print free money, and servers cost nothing to maintain. pilestedt runs the studio on his own and sony doesnt make studio decisions, so they can't just close it on him and fuck off either
>>493489497It will spike and then hard crash again just like escalation of frustration. There is no way the squids come out as anything other than a completely broken mess, even by this game's standards.
>>493489136I'm comparing it to the 'all-time high' of....last month. They've squandered the boost they got from the last update, and more. I don't know how much clearer it can be that this game is going in the wrong fucking direction. Who let these swiggers cook?
>>493489518>and $1.2mil/30 day period once they get back on the fast warbond release schedule
>>493489382If the pop spikes above 75k during the first 48 hours after the patch drops I'll be shocked. He'll, I'm not even sure they'll hit 50k. The swedes literally killed a golden goose. The incompetence is mind boggling. Their idiocy in releasing this minimum viable product and not having end game progression systems even half done at launch (and fully in the game by now) is biting them even harder. True end game progression might not even be here in 12 months given they've gone back to the drawing board on basic shit like armor. Then holiday vacations... this game is done.
>>493489518>sony doesnt make studio decisions, so they can't just close it on him and fuck off eitherYour entire post is bullshit but this isn't entirely accurate. Basedny owns the HD IP. They can pull that.
>>493490727"Are you done yet?"
>>493489518Look at it, chud diver, its your future.also at an all-time low, lol
>>493489518Concord levels of cope here.
>>493490851I know right? Here I am, all fleshy and malleable, playing by the rules, and this strider just shows total disregard for the sportsmanship of the game. This is the second strider that's bugged the fuck out on me, I hope they get it out of their system soon.
>>493490727Remind me again why we play this game
>>493491346uhm, have you tried playing on a lower difficulty, maybe, sweetie?
>>493488384Caught me in the act, now the whole thread knows aboutmy lazydiving>>493490727oh, that's what you were talking about when the game dropped a horde of barrager tanks on my head, just more swedish jank
>>493491626not that anon but I did!but I wanted more enemies, so I went up to a higher difficulty.
>>493491505Because when it's good, its GOOD.>>493491626Yeah actually I was on a level 7 earlier yesterday. Was nice to fight the unarmored striders for a bit.
>drop between two shrieker nests>me and one other dude call down our HMG emplacements at the same time>blow up six mushrooms in less than a minuteMan it's so nice when it works out with pubbies
>>493463494The dominator is the best gun in the game because it just works. It is mentally taxing however, because of drop and kick, but that's not uncommon.
>>493490107Based
>>493490727
>>493498249Impaler faces are either stupidly tanky or explode near instantly, what a weird buggy enemy
How it feels like using orbital gas strike.
>>493498571They also seem to make you hop a little when they die and you're close.
10 days before total doomer death
So, when are we getting chemical warfare warbond?>armors with 99% toxic gas resist, one light, one medium>gas grenades that are just mini orbital gas strikes>primary that is basically a flamethrower but gas OR the goop thrower from HD1>luger styled secondary pistol that is a sidegrade to peacemaker
>>493498835it only has 1 death animation and that animation begins with its tentacles not being deployed, so they instantly snap back onto their face. if you're closer you don't just get a little hop, you get fucking flung at high speed as the collision mesh passes through your own collision mesh at mach 4
>>493451489Hey there Dor. You suck at the game.
>>493499364Gas does the exact same damage as fire, giving the armor 75% resist would be more than enough.Gas grenades are overdue, especially since they explicitly hinted at them in one of the pre-Meridia TV spots.Gas gun is probably not going to happen since it would probably start out bugged and immediately gas the user the moment the trigger is pressed. I'd settle for a new marksman rifle and/or SMG.
>>493488757only to faggots
>>493499364twinkbeard said warbond will be soon though I don't think we have any real hints at what it'll be. I hope it's gonna be medic themed and include a stim pistol or something to that effect. we need gamechangers.
>>493500717Oh shit are they actually back on a schedule for those
>14,962 combined platforms players online on a Saturday morning.It's over.
>>493500852please don't take that smelly faggot by his word, for all we know "soon" could mean Christmas in this context
>>493500858yeah, no shit, everyone is playing sm2
>>493501067isnt slop marine being criticized for playing it too safe though
>>493501216i dont know what redditors think mane...
>>493501283reddit is infatuated with 40k though, le grimdark is normiecore
>>493499530Makes sense I guess.>so mind broken by swede code that I'll accept anything
>Call down Hellbomb>It bounces off where I wanted to put it and lands out of range>Annoyed now>Enemies force me into cover>Mad, stun them and arm the hellbomb>Run away>33x bot kills when it explodesFuuuuuuuckYooooooouu
>>493499530>no death animation for when tentacles are deployed where the impaler reels back, stumbles and dies and the now disconnected tentacles slither out of the ground and writhe about like giant snakes until they too stop wriggling
>>493499364Oh yeah let's bring back the goopgun from HD1. Such a well designed and fun weapon.
>>493499530Such a weird design.
>>493500336>Gas does the exact same damage as fire, giving the armor 75% resist would be more than enough.Fire resistance should be at least 95% and should prevent you from getting set on fire. The fire armor is almost useless
>>493503432>The fire armor is almost uselessI'd rather just run medic armor especially now that I can pre-stim.
>>493504719Yeah precisely
>>493503262Its just a recolored flamethrower that doesn't spread groundfire and either has more penetration or more damage.I dont see the problem.
>>493503262Man, our jumpjets suck in hd2.
>killing a spore charger at close range
Man, the flamethrower primary sucks even in D1.What even is the fucking point of this garbage?
>>493506981idk, set the ground on fire.
>>493503262>spray concentrated nerve agents plus acid plus liquified anthrax at large organic creatures' face, it eventually dies>this is a bad thing and cannot be allowedI'm going to shock your testicles
>>493504719The swedes should nerf stims.
>>493506981literally just ticking off boxes>yes we have a primary flamethrower :)
>>493506981landscaping and cool photography moments
>>493506981work as proof that the balance team has to be fired
>>493506981being probably pretty great until the unrelated fire physics "fix" (read: conspiratorial Alexus sabotage) was folded in from one of twelve running development versions all collectively pushing to main
>>493506021>>493507174It slows.It incapacitates.It deals damage through armor.There's a reason all 3 in that webm is using it. It's broken.You're an incel-user. I hate you.
>>493507415nta but Breaker Incendiary is merely adequateArrowhead doesn't decide the right and wrong of game balance, we do
>no one returned to the game to help unlock napalm barrage.what went wrong?
>>493507415>It's fun.>It has utility.>It has what's now a bare minimum support quality.>There's a reason all 3 in that webm is using it. It's good.>I'm a transvestite. I hate y-ACK!!!
>L-LE INCEL!egalitarianism-indoctrinated moral busybody detectedI am superior to you, you should die so I can live
>>493507504>>493507585Kys.You're one of those fags that can only think in extremes. Your current directive is "nerfs bad". But there are actually broken things in the game. Incelbreaker is one of them and it needs to be addressed.The goop-gun in HD1 is also one such thing. It won't be addressed because the game is old as shit. But if you looked at that webm and thought "hell yeah!" you're fucking retarded.
>>493507415Seems like it would be reasonable. Just a slow and some dps that goes through armor but would take forever to kill a charger with it.
>>493507801refer to >>493507504>Breaker Incendiary is merely adequate>Arrowhead doesn't decide the right and wrong of game balance, we doPlayers do not regard incen as overpowered, therefore it isn't.
>>493507914>refer to the post I'm already replying toYou're a special kind of retard, aren't you?
I think the Liberator is fine and swedes should nerf every primary to be about as good as it.
>>493507415>a weapon has actual uses>why would you use this>you are just -ACK
>>493507801nerfs bad, alexus balance bad, shit gamefeel glazers bad, your ability to not merely tolerate but somehow enjoy everything being shit tuned with a few standouts does not make you anything but a troontard subanimal thing worthy only of BZZZZZZZZZTpostingeverything will be OP, and then nothing will be, and things will be adjusted from there. That is the word of God intent of Pilestedt to go too far the other way before starting fine adjustments of the new paradigm and by God we'll be better off for its being actually fulfilled.
>incellobby out in forcelollmao
>>493507943I wouldn't have to if you realized that your argument has been destroyedgo ask players if breaker incendiary is overpowredmost will say no>b-but muh arrowheadhas no real authority in the matterthe wonders of capitalist supply and demand dynamics dictate that arrowhead caters to us in every regard
>>493508185Dont you have kids to groom on trooncord?
>>493507415It's not broken simply by the virtue that it's DPS based and not frontloaded AT damage which is the most important trait for high difficulty HD1 missions. This is why the Rumbler, RR, Commando, and Demolisher are the most common picks for the final difficulties of HD1. You don't need 4 players moving the same direction and kiting everything to death when you can just outright obliterate HVT's and then mop up whatever is leftover with primaries since they're actually lethal in HD1 and you can use those support weapons to invalidate Hellbomb oriented objectives.
>>493508215>le playersI'm a player and I want the incelbreaker nerfed.Suck it retard.
>>493508247interesting how AI can produce a far more accurate depiction of our time than journos
>>493508291>I'M A PLAYER AND I WANT THE INCELBREAK-ACK!!!you heard him boys, he wants the incelbreaker
>>493508215nah bruh, use a weapon that requires aim. no one wants to recognize your pronouns.
>>493508280You'd have a point if not for the fact that chargers (especially) bodyblocks the rest of the horde. So if you just hose it down nothing gets pass.I don't think you know what the fuck you're talking about.
>>493508291Then it's a good thing your opinion isn't equal to everyone elses.
>>493508247wtf, the new It looks terrifying.
>>493508291>I'm a tranny and I want the incelbr-ACK>BZZZT BZZT>BZZZZZT
>>493508291i concur, fuck that gun.
>jeet with a godcomplex is an incellol
>>493508465>YOU'D HAVE A POINT, EXCEPT IT CAUSES REALISM FOR ME AND NOT FOR THEE, SO IF YOU USE IT IT JUST WORKS>I DON'T THINK YOU KNOW WHAT THE FUCK YOU'RE TALKING ABO-CCCKKKKAAAACKCK GGHHRRRKKKKK NNANAGGHKKLook at the fucking state of you
>>493508408My aim is impeccable. I will not use childsafe primaries regardless. If Arrowhead want weapons to not be overshadowed, they have to buff them. Which is thankfully what they finally acknowledged and are attempting.
>>493508291All the shotguns need nerfs. No idea why swedes made them so strong.
>>493508601Saar, this is India in 5 year, superpower.Scare yet basterd bitch lasagna?
>>493508643The issue being that shotguns are low/medium-ranged, but AR can't benefit from their long range capabilities because everything is fucking FOGGED
>scamcenter went on a break
>>493509056The what now?
Just play on a difficulty where impalers don't spawn?
>>493509524Saar we're talking about incelbreakers now.
I encountered a chrome jetpack bot the other day and it died just like every other chaff bot. Did I miss something or are they chrome just cause?
>>493508715>AR can't benefit from their long range capabilities because everything is fucking FOGGEDAnd enemies spawn on top of you.
if they nerfed breaker incendiary even more than they already did the result would would not be people showing up with weapons that have no right to exist such as libpen or bsp they would switch to the next best thinglikely jar-5 dominator and cookoutthen those two would get nerfedeventually they would run out of weapons to nerf and nothing would be solvedit's not hard to understand why buffing the guns and then retuning the difficulties/enemy spawns/health pools/armor classes etc etc afterwards is betterarrowhead hasn't been reluctant to do this out of any concern for the game, just lazinessgutting player power is a quick way to pad out content and make it "last longer", not dissimilar to how corporations lay off people en masse to increase short term gains
>>493510525>a reduction of a whooping 2 magazines counts as a nerf to the inceltardlol
>>493508715There's also damage dropoff and intervening terrain.They should probably have worked out how to give rifle rounds more AP than shotgun pellets.
>>493510918recoil got increased substantiallyboth changes happened for no reason other than usage rates, which is a result of other weapons being dogshit, not breaker incendiary being particularly good
>>493511008>both changes happened for no reason other than usage ratesWhy are you so incapable of admitting your incelcrutch is extremely powerful, one could even say, overpowered?
>>493511008>recoil got increased substantiallylmaobase breaker was nerfed, incel breaker was not touched at all in comparisionit's a crutch if there ever was one
>>493511090refer to >>493507504
>>493511171>back from his breakStop trying to inflate your (you)-count saar.
>>493511154>base breaker was nerfedin spite of being subpar as it was, further reinforcing my point, nerfs are not the right strategy
>>493511008Recoil nerf is kinda weird. Recoil isn't as impactfull vs bugs as it is vs bots and the incel is only good vs bugs. Vs bots you need to hit weakspots and high recoil can realy fuck with that but bugs you just sorta spray in their direction until they die.
>>493511296>base breaker>subparsaar pls
>>493511296if incel had 30% pick rate, breaker was close to 70% back in march
>>493511296> breaker was subparI get the feeling you aren't as good at the game as you think you are and that is why all guns feel weak to you.
>>493511340>Recoil nerf is kinda weird.Yeah, because it was a slap on the wrist.It was a ceremonial nerf. E.g. it did fucking nothing.Because it came at a time where everyone and their whore mother was screaming about nerfs.
>if you don't glaze arrowhead's objectively bad decisions you are LE JEETDon't you have a 6/10 wh40k game to glaze?>>493511363arrowhead's ill-informed balancing changes created a very narrow metain a narrow meta, a gun needs to be the outright best or very close to it in order to be considered viablethe rest might as well not existthere's no reason for breaker and s&p to exist, but that's not because incendiary is too strong, it's because arrowhead consistently opted for the wrong choices balance wise
>>493508291It needed a nerf, but the magazine nerf is retarded. It just needs what some anons and others have said before, switch the damage (and durable damage) values with those of the S&P. Hit two birds with one stone.
>>493511452Everything that wasn't the breaker or the scorcher was ASS, can't believe that was the baseline they wanted
>>493511623why not just remove the s&p instead? why promote a more boring version of the same wapon? diligence and libpen should also disappear btw
>>493511612>glazeNew script dropped?Are you able to imagine a situation wherein the meta is not "narrow"?Can you figure out how we get to that point provided you're able to clear the first hurdle?
>>493511456I minmax into offense because that's the only way to get through d10 without losing half or more of your reinforcements, and there have always been better options than Breaker for that.
>>493511623>switch the damage (and durable damage) values with those of the S&Pgive it the breaker's stick mag while you're at it
>>493511831D10 didn't exist before the Breaker was nerfed SAAR you fucking idiot.
>>493511810>Are you able to imagine a situation wherein the meta is not "narrow"?simple, drop the "player has to feel weak" mentality and allow the power trip to happen, let primaries kill things>b-but muh challengepeople do not play this game for the challenge, it's a casual dakka shooter, if you think this game is challenging your standard for high difficulty must be normie shit like fromslop
it's the railcannon tard again, isn't it
>>493511831>min max becouse it's the only way to get through D10So i was correcting in asuming you aren't as good as you think you are.
>>493512025>people do not play this game for the challengeWrong.
>>493512067and here comes the disingenuous tranny-style arguing once againit's the only way to get through d10 comfortablyyou might think people should only make it out by the skin of their teeth if at all, but you're mistaken, that's not funthere's no sense of accomplishment unless you can achieve it with relative ease
>>493512209>there's no sense of accomplishment unless you can achieve it with relative easeSaaaar plsssssI am wobbling my head in your direction.
>>493512151if you actually believe this I have no choice but to assume you've never played a genuinely hard game, one that requires you to acquire deep knowledge of all gameplay systems, micromanage, invest thousands of even tens of thousands of hours, etc
>I play helldivers 2 for the challenge
>>493512348anon, helldivers isn't one of those games and you're retarded if you think otherwiseit's a casual horde shooter for consoles
>>493512209Personally i prefer the chaotic and harder mission over the cake walks. Kinda like the lower you get the better the high feels. But hey different strokes for different folks.
>>493512282if you're not completing d10s with an average 80% of the reinforcement budget intact, your playstyle (or that of your squad if not soloing) is trash, simple as
>>493512467that's exactly what I'm trying to say
>>493512348Pray tell O' hardcore gamer, what are some hard gaymes?And you're wrong.It's why there's a wide array of difficulties available.>b-b-but D10 is easyYes, but as we've seen, you're able to imagine a situation wherein that could be different.Look to HD1.
>>493512648>Pray tell O' hardcore gamer, what are some hard gaymes?OG XCOM comes to mind
>>493512025>a conga line of scavengers approaches.>sweat beads form on anon's forehead.>he feels weak.>there's no way his incel breaker can handle this many at once!>he closes his eyes and holds down the trigger.>it seems they're all dead... all but one...>piece of shit swedes... piece of shit primary!>reload would take too long... too close for grenade pistol... the only chance is... melee.>he goes for the swing, but the scavenger jukes backward at the last moment!>anon is drenched in sweat. this can't be happening. helldivers... are so weak!>he tries to flee and falls into a geyser.>all those samples... gone.>another negative review hits Steam.
>>493512763heckin awesome post dude, you sure showed that incelwhere is the upvote button on this site btw
>>493512864*wobbles head respectfully*
>>493512750I wouldn't really call XCom difficult.Almost everything is a 50/50 even if it says 99% chance or some bullshit.The game is as difficulty as it decides to roll successes/failures.
>>493512476they're all cakewalks unless you make it intentionally harder on yourself by equipping irredeemable dogshit like crossbow and thermites
>>493513029True, we should make a list of irredemable strats/weapons.>railcannon>mortar>any support weapon that isnt the AC>any eagle that isn't the airstrikeThats a quick of the top of my head start for the list.
>>493512440ah, it's the non-whites again. when will you faggots stop making "I reincarnated with op hax skillz" cartoons?
is this post ironic
Fuck balance. All they should be focusing on is fixing the broken stuff first.>fix barrager tank>fix implier>fix titans sometimes not taking damage>fix heavy devs and factory striders sticking their guns through objects and shooting out the other side>fix rocket chicken convertable and goofy side rocket mechanics>fix remember aim mode option>fix stim sound>fix invisble corpses blocking shots>fix objectives sometimes not being interactable>fix call down objective sometimes landing on top of an inaccessible cliff (geo survey)What else?
>>493513285But those are all good.I'd say the only issue with the game balance is that you have limited slots to take high AP damage, and the main way they make things more challenging is to throw more high AV enemies at you.
>>493514317Remove the follow up ragdoll, holy fuck. I think they added this shit post launch
>>493514317>Fix charger animation desync>Fix damage indicator when firing at exposed weakpoints
>>493514317Fix stratagem keys using your stims or backpack while you're inputting the code.
>>493514801Skill issue. Don't have overlapping hotkeys.
>>493514317there's one thing that bothers me.when i chamber a round, i get the sound effect and animation for it being chambered, but the reload is still not complete.not really a bug, but it always throws me off to hear that loud audio cue and have to not shoot or it'll cancel out of the reload.
>>493514317They should really fix the bug that causes the Scythe to have a red dot sight instead of a scope. Dunno why they haven't acknowledged it.
Does any other gun have the Lib Pen scope?
>>493514893Hate that shit, it's going on the list.
>>493514317geo survey terminals breaking after 2 mins if called in and left alone
>>493512440kek
>>493514317infinite spawns
>>493515010Red dots in general are completely redundant when the 3rd person reticle exists. The liberator scope is the golden standard for first-person aiming, yet most guns have the ugly 50 MOA MS Paint-tier red dots that do absolutely nothing to enhance your ability to aim.
>>493514326that is correct and invalidates every single weapon that can't either mass chaff clear or do armpen 4.
>>493515889Rather than a fix, that is just bad design on their part. Get the red dot sight mod, it's still working and it clears up a lot of shit on the scopes.It doesn't fix the alignment issue on scopes, though.>fix scope alignment properly this time.
>>493516859inb4 height over bore realism schizopost
scopes are aligned already, people miss shots because of muzzle-optics distance and devastator head hitboxes being tiny as fuck. They should at least let you zero weapons
>>493517262>zero weaponsThis would align with AHs millsim autism.
>>493517524>drop into mission>everyone starts shooting dirt to zero in their weapons>everyone fumbles around trying to get it zero'd>bugs/bots get alerted to gunshots>BUG BREACH/BOT DROPSHIT DETECTED>weapons couldn't be zero'd in time and now shoot all over the place>people die>drop back in>start shooting dirt to zero gun in>repeat
>>493517998>team mate dies>steal his gun and fuck up his zeroing>put it back>he now wonders why his gun is aim is fucked and thinks it's bugged
>>493517998>
>>493518252kek
>>493516859I still prefer most of the in-game scopes over red dots, even if they're not zeroed at all, since I can still use the elevation tick marks as a reference for my shots, and the liberator scope just looks nice. Turning every scope into a red dot is just lazy and doesn't help most weapons anyway.
>>493517998>the Swedes decide that zeroing could be made "fun">it becomes a timing minigame >you're locked in place for half a minute trying to get the timing right every time>still not zero'd correctly>everyone just uses shotguns as God intended
>>493517138>go to painstaking lengths to implement the "realism" of height over bore>don't bother at all to develop the necessary step of aligning scopes to the bullets' flight paths>every scope is simply mounted completely parallel to each gun's bore axis>all guns shoot lowSweden
>>493519369red dot mod is a tremendous improvement if you use first person mode on any of the side scope style weapons, i.e. AC, RR, Commando, Quasar, LC. in those weapons, all the stock crosshair does is obscure the enemy you're trying to shoot at. quintessence of a malfeature.
>>493519369I got it because I was sick of seeing eye rape when using the AMR, and to a lesser extent the AC. I just need a point of reference and to actually see my target.
Just give me ironsights in first person unless its a marksman rifle.Simple as.
>>493521761ok>gives u a poorly made peep sightwat now
>>493521005Fair point on the side scopes, they suck. Still don't want the mod since it's just a kitchen-sink solution that changes every scope. I just want some proper range ladders for AT.
Reddits bitching about the only fun mission left now, rip bot HVA
>>493514317>Fix the you've reloaded your weapon, but not really bug>Fix the you've thrown a grenade by pressing G but get ragdolled. Now you have grenades equipped instead of whatever weapon you were using>Fix gunship patrols flying backwards>Fix the Q callouts tags from flying all over the screen making them useless>Fix expired barrage stratagem beacon indicator being permanently on your screen>Fix player nameplate things being invisible while dropping in>Fix player nameplate things obstructing your view when shooting>Fix silent tanks>Fix silent hulks>Fix bots from shooting through corpses (hulk especially)>Fix bot mortars from being retarded and not firing>Fix objectives being completed early by a random event>Fix no hellbomb being available for detector tower fortress>Fix armed hellbomb not exploding after being destroyed>Fix the you've just reloaded your weapon and fire 1 bullet and you need to reload again bug>Fix heavy devastators shooting through themselves>Fix enemies being able to scale vertical terrain instantly>Fix pre deployed HMG emplacements from firing 1 bullet when you get in them>Fix zombie chicken walkers and invulnerable bots>Fix gunship patrols materialising and disappearing when they spawn and despawn>Fix SSSD and "high value sample" icons from switching>Fix invisible mines>Fix tripping on a rock while prone after being ragdolled / diving>Optimise the game>Fix patrols from spawning / despawning in line of sight>Fix not being able to hear 180 degrees behind you>Fix terminals bugging out>Fix the developers not playing their game above D3
>>493522065best path would be weapon customization but that can never happen because arrowhead is either too inept or too lazy or a mix of bothalso putting a scope on jar-5 would be le overpowered, game would break
>>493523085I want to put a scope on the railgun
>>493523085>x15 magnification scope on blitzerWhy?Because I can.
>>493523904same, just let me eyeshot hulks on the horizon
BLOODY BASTERD HELLDIVERS
>>493523085>adding attachments gives bonuses but decreases handling>a scoped jar with recoil reduction attachment even with viper armor handles like base versions dogshit making it unusable withoutWould you take it
>>493525013fuck no
I still have a feeling that, if the swedes ever get around to doing it, they'll make weapon "customization" be exactly the same as ship modules. Permanent upgrades that you unlock incrementally for shitloads of samples.
>>493525376Just make scope alignment a ship module>our engineers have finally invented the ruler to accurately measure where the middle of the scope is to give our helldivers unparralled accuracy
Bugs 5 (bring your chaff clear)steam://joinlobby/553850/109775243048670632/76561198993299329
>>493525561>it only works on some weapons>the AMR isn't one of them
>>493513027I'm thinking OG means the game also known as UFO: Enemy Unknown which does have a large amount of rage-inducing elements.
HMG-Emplacement is very good vs bots :)
>>493526190I want a sickle variant of HMG emplacement
>>4935256243/4
>>4935263432 laser cannons strapped to a chair?
>>493485005you were lucky at 0:05 the explosion didn't magically drag you to the heavy devastator
>>493525624>steam://joinlobby/553850/109775243048670632/76561198993299329full
>SMGs are ment to be used on the move>Knight's recoil is so bad it's borderline useless unless you are crouching with recoil reducing armorwhat did they mean by this
>filler bot MO
>>493488918Still higher than DRG LOL
steam://joinlobby/553850/109775243053855780/76561198931226109
Gatling plasma sentry please
>>493528868whoops, i forgot bots
I hope they fix the patrol spawns. I'm tired of every square inch of the map being covered in seventeen patrols and if you ever kill one, another will just pop into existence out of thin air right in front of your face.>>493527543Barrager tanks are the real red gem magnets now.
>>493527307the same thing they meant when they condescendingly said to use the adjudicator in controlled bursts but the thing can't even one tap a scavenger so ofc you're going to mag dump the brood commander and pack of hunters barreling at you.
>>493529180barragers evaporate from two commando rockets though
>>4935288683/4
>>493529365Or 1 thermite.
>>493529497that toothe most redeeming quality of bots is that you can solve every single bot unit without ever dialing a red stratagem, it's not like bugs where you're asking to get raped if you don't throw your OPS at the titan/impaler/behemoth
>>493487948don't forget that if you are the reloader, your arms can get stuck in retard mode after you disengage
>>4935288683/4 againplease join
YOU ARE IN RANGE OF ENEMY IMPALER
>>493531110>steam://joinlobby/553850/109775243053855780/76561198931226109havent joined someone using this link before, where do i put it? also i hope you are on diff 9/10.
>>493531528nvm i figured it out im retarded, but it says failed to join.
>>493531175I start swearing violently, throw an impact at my feet and have a friend call me down ontop of it.
>>493529309>The heavy pen anti medium chaff weapon is bad with crowds of enemiesCount yourself lucky too, at least that thing is semi efficient with every other tier of enemies. Fucking lib penetrator takes 50% more shots for every non class 2.
If you were in that D10 bots last night around 12-1am EDT on the pretty bot planet where we discovered you could get 2 skull intel things , that game was sick and I was honored to find and tow those super samps back to extraction before we did the ICBM. You all that pulled aggro elsewhere I appreciate it. Hope you slept well helldivers now it's time for FREEDOM BISKIES
>>493512440>dude trying to engage in the culture the establishment is trying to share>dude running establishment is a stuck up asshole with body issuescool story
>>493522285>dropship *teleports behind u*>drops a rocket strider>strider fires its rocket before it even hits the ground>rocket one-shots both generatorsYou have to admit it's pretty unfair how every new bot enemy can just insta-fail HVA
Impregnating a very sweaty Eagle-1 after returning from a mission.
I haven't played in a bit, what are people running on Diff 10 Bugs??
>>493534553OPS/500kg/(MMG or AC)/flex pickPunisher, Incel Breaker, CuckoutStuns or ImpactsGP
>>493534553OPS and 500kg
>>493534553PummelerSenatorImpactsEngineering kit armor (I like ravager with eradicator helmet)Grenade launcherSupply packOPSGas
>>493534553OPS/500kg/AC/gatling barrage
D10 bots more like D3 bots.
another major order done, another 0 medals because i'm fucking capped
>>493534553Rocket mech, OPS, 500KG, Free slot
>>493535775sar please, helldivers 2 is a very challenging hardcore title for real gamers only
>>493536048I fucking HATE how AH can't multitask so they seem to be permanently in a state of working on fixing shit they have ruined so they can't implement a fucking resource sink for the millions of wasted medals/samples that just disappear into the ether
>>493534553Liberator Carbine, Grenade Pistol, Throwing KnivesMG43, Gas Strike, OPS, RailcannonJaguar Peak Physique, Muscle Enhancement
>>493533102sounds based
>>493534553Stock Lib / Peacemaker / OPS / MMG
>>493531907usually means lobby is full
>>493534502Eagle-1 is literally a child soldier drenched in breathable liquid perfluorocarbons, you sick freak.
>>493525624gg fellas
i havent played in a week and wanted to claim the MO reward anywaythe game refuses to start, sasuga swhiters
Why do I keep joining charger seeds... and why do chaffs keep spawning right on my rocket sentry I put down on a good spot...
>>493537493And her litle leggies have been chopped off aswell, so the dude is also one of those amputee fetishts.
>>493536606jesus fucking christ, you're gonna get more. stop crying because "wah i want the number to go up tho"
>>493492338When did they buff emplacement ammo? I run out in 15 seconds.
what the fuck, why do diff 1 missions run like assdid they intentionally start smothering framerates on low diffs to cull the sc/medal farming
>>493538305shut the fuck up you retarded nigger
Any lobbies?
How to kill chargers without stuns?
>>493539617HMG, AC in the butt. EAT. If anyone says something like railcannon just ignore them as that's a retarded use of the RC.
>>493539617hold forward dive at their leg with an EAT then pop the exposed leg with your nade pistol
Holy shit bros Peacock is within our grasp
>>493539617No stuns = kick
steam://joinlobby/553850/109775243069996132/76561197986229160d10 bots
>>493539617I dodge and let someone else deal with them. Already killed enough with the Flamethrower
>>493540326>Peacock is within our grasp>blocked by a planet with a 2% decay rateNo it isn't.
>>493539617I get them to run into a rock and then I fuck off. Not my problem
>>493539790Any use of the RC is retarded.
>>4935404642/4
>>493534139Post proof of this happening please. Ive done quite a few HVA bots and never seen that circumstance. Ive seen drops behind but have never once had no time to react and nuke the dropped fags with a stun
>>493541102I've been killed by a rocket tank firing through itself while being still on a dropship before. They often just switch to direct fire when you are near them because they are the most bugged shit ever.
the only meta railgun
Do SOS beacons even work if your game is invite only?
>>493540519>>493540641turboshitters
>>493541102Barragers start firing the moment they drop, if you are near a generator there's a chance one of the rockets will destroy one or bothAnd if you fail to contain the bots on the long corridor, one of them will call for a drop and because there's not enough space there one dropships will clip through the rock separating the corridor from the LZ and drop them all right beside the generators
>>493540464still 2/4
>>493541778Clean it up AT janny. I'm busy having fun, can't be bothered to dance and stun around for an entire minute for a shitty enemy
>>493541565it shows everyone your lobby, but doesn't let them join you
>>493542218you are a plebeian and will do as told
>>4935404643/4
>>493542346Mmm, come back when you've got a little more mmm AT.
>>493542346*Tags Spore Charger* enjoy!
>>493542290eh, I know it's my own fault for setting it to invite only but I still wish it would bypass the setting and force it to public for that one gameespecially since changing game privacy settings mid-game doesn't work
>>493540464full
Ok I tried Rocket Pods and it seems pretty easy to kill Chargers after it breaks their armor.
>>493543275so a direct downgrade from EAS which instakills?
the game is never going to reach these levels again
is this gaime like left4dead?
>>493543508>80k players in one sectordoesnt really seem that unlikely, squids or huge game events would spike it pretty easily
Remember when they buffed Rocket Pods to do 250 damage instead of 600 damage and also made it so the explosion doesn't penetrate armor
>>493543456Yes but you don't need stuns since it locks on.
>>493543703it's been left4dead alright
>>493543508Think I've seen almost 60k in one sector with EoF
>>493543846Was it really good before?
Almost every time I've given rocket pods a chance they fucking miss
Rocket pods are a bigger gamble than a 380 on a fortress.
>>493543846it's "more consistent" now
>>493544057No, It was shit but it could kill things sometimes >>493544382It really isn't. Aims nowhere and kills nothing. Maybe, maybe if you're lucky it hits a BT's head enough times to kill it
>>493543846But it targets better so if all rockets hit it will still do the same as hitting a single rocket did before.
>>493544495you don't get it, now it "softens up" enemiesso instead of having 1 stratagem that can kill them, you use one that doesn't kill them and then do something else (probably another stratagem) to finish them off
>>493544721Railcannon bros they're taking our jobs
Will the Eagle rocket pods come in from the direction I throw it?
>>493544834this is actually the fundamental issue with stratagems is because you're limited to 4 and everything is on length cooldown if it doesn't have consistent OHKO potential there's no reason to take ittake the railcannon and the 500kg and you're guaranteed to have at least 1 of those available at all times
>>493458001:3
>>493545269Why take failcannon when you can take OPS?
>>493545131Perpendicular to you. Left or right no idea, I think it depends on the Super Destroyer position
>>493545478I like the animation
>>493545478it's fun and effective
>>4935404643/4 someone bailed
>>493545478you take them both with 500s and a spear and make every heavy on the map your bitch
It took all three rocket pods to kill a bile titan.
>>493506981pen t3 armor and over cook T2.Basically insta kill brood commanders, but the armor pen isn't properly coded and it's actually got light pen.Still be pretty shit though regardless, unless it pierced through several enemies at once. But unless you're fighting nothing but warriors/hiveguards (that thing that no one is worried about fighting) it will get fucked by anything charging you rapidly.Honestly I don't even know if they understand how risky it is to use a flamethrower against bugs. Like if it was just a support weapon that you could take as a primary, I could see the use. Saving a slot would be pretty big. but it's not.
>>493544341If they reliably did their damage to main hp there would be SOME use. like 1500 damage to anything you point it at? basically a 3 use mini railgun.
>>493547663They should have left the flamethrower untouched and simply introduced the sporecharger as the flamethrowers natural counter.
ew pub aids
These throwing knives never seem to kill anything.
>>493548351Honestly that's a pretty good point, that or the impaler.If you run flamethrower with zero AT for impalers or biletitans you will get butt diddled pretty hard.
>>493548671they only do 250 damage with pen 3
>>493548671They do about a sluggers worth of damage per throw with slightly more durable damage.Theoretically they could be used to go for heads / limbs. Like be some really good durable damage soaker, and pair with your crowd control primary.But they'd need to do about 6 times their current damage per throw to be worth a fuck.
>>493546117titan sized problems take titan sized solutions
Can someone host a lobby? I would but I'm not going to play that long.
>>493549998yeah sure on the 17th, assuming the patch actually positively impacts the game and launches alongside other content
>>493550141yeah
>>493550141okay so im gonna need your name so i know to fucking BLOCK ur retarded ass fucking faggot. were in the fucking MUD out here gaming and all you do is click a new genny and shit post.KYS.
>were in the fucking MUD out here
>>493550809>hes laughing
RR is one of the most fun weapons to use.It's also one of the worst.But, maybe one day I can once again be the designated heavy remover.
>>493549998her ya go, now get in.steam://joinlobby/553850/109775243083191478/76561198126520852D10
>>493550441real
>>493549197They feel a bit slow to throw, and they start flying from top right to bottom left, so aiming them is a bitch.
>>4935509832/4, join :)
>>493551153Yeah. Just better to take grenades for crowd control, and use the slugger instead. Might be good if they over buff the fuck out of them.
>>493550980I love rockets for just nuking objectives from a mile away, but taking a strategem slot is hard to justify for that. Especially when you have to rely exclusively on your primary now that your support and backpack is filled.
>>4935509833/4
>>493540464ggs!
Never forget that they saw fit to cucking eruptor, queso, flamer and many others instead of fixing glaring gamebreaking bugs like the one that gets you FUCKING STUCK ON THE SHIP WARP-IN ANIMATION WHEN YOU JUST WANT TO PLAY WITH YOUR BROS FFFFUUUUUUUUUUCCCCCCCCKKKKK YES I MAD
>>493550441based you tell them sir
>>4935509834/4
>>493552185Never understood why they cucked the quasar. The charge up animation is a massive knee cap to using it.
>>493553941because people enjoyed using it
>>493553941It's been long enough that I can confidently say it was one of the worst changes in the game and completely killed the weapon I never liked using it in the first place but it's probably one of the worst AT options right now
>Need about another 5 to 10% of the playerbase to successfully defend Gaellivare.>Bugtards bugtarding and throwing away the liberation per hour into -3/-2% planets anyway.Aite, I'm out. See you in 4 days and 15 hours when we lose the MO to see what the next dogshit story beat is.
>>493553941The initial policy of knee-jerk balance changes in response to reddit posts and youtuber tier-lists. It wasn't even that great but shitters wanted another RailBreaker, so they tried to force it as the "meta" until Alexus crushed it. Speaking of whom... >*BBBBBZBZZZZZZAAAAAAAAZZZZPPTTTTTAAPTTTTTTZZZZZZ
>>493553941Theorical spreadsheet dps too high
>>493555189It is the worst period. Even the rocket sentry gets more work done.
>>493555259anon please explain why anyone should bother with the MO if a great deal of players are medal capped. faggy metsphysical reasons like working towards a common goal are woefully inefficient. people need incentives. when will MOs start yielding super credits? it's an overdue change.
>each primary deals 5% more damage/Vdurable per level>each primary increases fire rate by 5% per level>Each primary gains 10% more ammo per level of difficultyThere I fixed the game. Now you don't need to balance for different difficulties and have this dumb see-saw stuff.
anyone hosting gayme?
>>493553941this but the EAT and its stupid unclasping animation that prevents you from even swapping away from the weapon
>>493555189the reason I liked to use it was explicitly because it didn't need a pack so you could put on the jumper and do overwatch with an AT check but that extra 5 seconds is an absolute killermaybe it'll be salvageable if it can body shot chargers like they say the RR will, but if not the wind up plus the head shot requirement makes it a no go, it's way too punishing if you don't get a clean shot
>>493555189A big reason to take the quasar was the rover, and that got nerfed too
>>493558239If they don't revert that change with the Sept 17th update we can conclude that they still haven't learned a thing
>>493559690they have no understanding that changes to a weapon have downstream effects to other weaponsbut then also by the numbers, like they nerfed the incel because it appeared in 30% of bug missionsso it appeared in 30% of 50% of the missions, which on average have 3 players, so 33% of 30% of 50% usageand that's an overcentralized meta to them?
Most games put way too much pressure on me by letting me have full control of my character for most of, if not all of the time. Helldivers thankfully alleviates all that stress by constantly ragdolling me. It even goes the extra mile by locking me into a standing-up animation after those ragdolls. Having all control and responsibility taken away from me for 10 seconds at a time is so liberating.
>>493561015SWEDENYESES
>>4935509832/4 now
>>493550983GG's sisters. Fun gaming. I'll never get over the comical size they decided to make the scythe, lmao.
>>493561404GG and since when is it this big?
>>493561557Few months ago they decided to make it comically large. Idk why.
>>493561015The worst part to me is getting the stim interrupted.>Get blasted and ragdolled, half health>Dive and stim>Get blasted, ragdoll, stim interrupted>Try to stim>Get shot>Stim interrupted>Try to stim>Get blasted>DeadFuck you, game
>>4935509833/4, GET IN!
>>493561015i know its not easy to get a squad that comms or is very competent, but if you plan your engagements it quite easy to avoid being juggled. on bugs at least.
>>493550983full
>>493562469who is fucking complaining about constant ragdolls on BUGS you retard
>>493485943>>493485005>get the hankering to play the game again >see latest dev update msg in steam >see this >desire to play evaporates completely thank you everyone for saving me from wasting a weekend
bot ragdolls would be fine if:- rocket devs didn't have infinite ammo
>Upload essential data mission>Get to the main objective, we're getting hammered on like three different sides>Planet is raining and it's like all washed out color-wise, can barely make out what's what>I'm the only one doing the objective, everyone else is too busy fighting>Drop a spare RR in case anyone could use it>Erase the SSDs and dive for cover to reload and fire back>To find another ally reloading the spare Recoilless I droppedIt's a nice feeling to see the things you brought being put to use.
>pick up RR from the floor>shit is worse than useless
>>493564573When the patch comes RR bros will be back on top. 10 more days.
enjoying AMR is really hard when you're too used to the Diligence crutch sniper
>>493565376yes until>gunships
>>493563434then you'll be glad to hear they're removing infinite ammo for rocket devs AND Gunships
any lobbies? the pubs aids today is out of control
>>493563434Wrong. It's the terrain too. The ground ragdolls you more than anything the enemies throw at you.
>>493565654Obviously DCS can't pen 4 and doesn't do support weapon tier damage, but>third person reticle>barely any recoil>15 shot magare really felt once you have to work without them. Really wish AMR had at least two of those three things.
>>493567202I don't know why they don't have a reticle on the amr because PC goobers are just going to give it a cursor tracker anyway
>>493568430Just another instance of the milsim autism that nobody wanted.
>d8>strat jammer RIGHT at fucking extract>bots swarming from north south east and west, absolutely no room to breathe or escape>can't even walk without turning into swiss cheeseI see why people don't play bots. The match was good up until the end, and it's like the game decided "You did too good, now eat shit." Shit got so bad two of the team just up and fucking left
>>493570634Jammers are the Stalker Lairs of the bots
>>493570589it's retardedanyone can point fire semi competently with some practice with real rifles and a crosshair should be the representation of that
>>493570634I always drop by extract on high level bots since there’s almost always either bots occupying it or a potentially extract ruining side objective in range of it
>>493565376Somehow I hit shots way more often with DCS than the AMR. Really keeps me from using the AMR much.
I really hope the update on the 17th makes the game so retardedly easy faggots will come crawling back asking them to reup the difficulty again
steam://joinlobby/553850/109775243107103376/76561197986229160bots d10
>>493571714Feels like the DCS projectile somehow has a substantially larger area of effect. I frequently kill two troopers with one DCS shot. Somehow way harder to do with AMR.
>>493572207Full
>>4935722073/4
>>493572207>>493572817False alarm.Back to 3/4I wonder what that guy's deal was, just joining and immediately leaving.
steam://joinlobby/553850/109775243107252671/76561198287751264bots D10
>>493572207full (for real this time)
>>4935733082/4
>>493571828Game already is retardedly easy in its current state though. With a decent squad that can stay attentive for 40 minutes and apply its stratagems, as well as a small amount of metafaggotry (like bringing OPS to blow out detectors), d10s are absolutely trivial. I frequently come out deathless, 15 or more reinforcements to go, shitload of time to spare, all objectives completed, full marks. Aside from pure pachinko cheapshot mechanics like chain ragdolls there's nothing that's particularly hard to deal with in this game. I see no reason why it would be a bad thing to make it a little bit easier if it results in reducing the amount of primaries that are currently downright pointless dead picks. If it then ends up so easy that people fall asleep during missions they can always retune and add new difficulty tiers.
>>4935733082/4 still sending it with randos joinable atm.
>>493571364>>493570634>>493570885Would you believe that shit happened again? 2 for fucking 2. This time we at least had some area clear outside extract and I put HMG down. Love the HMG.Learned something interesting though, a total squad wipe lets you drop directly into the jammer if you steer well enough. But damn man, shit like that makes me want a break from the game
>>493576031I can believe it. Well camouflaged jammers (and stalker nests) on extract are oddly frequent. I like to survey the extract site mid mission if circumstances allow it. Spared me a good number of shitshows.
>>493570634when this happens to hdg divers they get amped up; the game is getting interesting
>>493573308steam://joinlobby/553850/109775243107252671/76561198287751264bots D10 again, randoms dont want to finish sets apparently2/4
>Le AMR is reload simulator>Not le AC though, reloading in place every 5 shots isn't the same
>>493579173>Failed to join lobbyFag
>>493579192Dear retard, it's not every 5 shots, you only need one round remaining to do fast reload. Also since AC is just plain stronger and has far better utility you get more out of each shot.
>>493579571ill restart my game i guess
>>493579910And then when you actually need to kill shit and not do le epic lone stunned hulk 2 tap you run out of ammo because you decided to reload every 9 shots. Which, by the way, kill WAY less shit than the AMR since rocket striders were introduced
>>493579173restarted game since someone was having issues joining, hopefully that fixes it and yes its set to public.
>>493580249Railgun is the best weapon to remove chickens. Another weapon that the AMR is all in all inferior to. AMR ranks among the worst support weapons.
>>493580305Still says failed
>>493579173alright fuck it the guy who was 2/4 cant even join me anymore, fuck this game til the 17th
>>493580546How hard is it to>Login to Steam chat>Set the lobby to public>Copy the game link
>>493579910>Dear retard, it's not every 5 shots, you only need one round remaining to do fast reloadyou start with a full magazine of 10 shotsyou fire up to 9 shots, you reload. you now have 6 shots. you fire 5 shots, you now have 1 round left in the magazine so you reload, you now have 6 shots in the magazineyou fire 5 shots, you now have 1 round left . . . you're reloading every 5 shots. OR you reload at 1 shot left, fire once, reload AGAIN, and only then can you fire 9 times before needing to reload.
>>493581081Completely worth doing for the best long range weapon in the game.
>>493580848i did all these ive hosted a bunch of lobbies in the past
>>493581896>Pub AIDS so severe you can only play with them now
um hii got a lobby, kinda buzzed maybekeep a botdiver company plssteam://joinlobby/553850/109775243112652355/76561198121770582
>>493582241gayi'm tired but i'll join->picOkay well I won't join. Godspeed, Buzzeddiver
>>493582241>Failed to join
>>493582241ok we'll try this again, restarted steam and the gamesteam://joinlobby/553850/109775243117500757/76561198121770582
>>4935828703/4
>>493579192>>493579910>>493581081Why cant you faggots accept that AMR and AC both have uses? Against bots, both are good. AC has some extra use cases due to AoE and higher damage, AMR for range and ease of use.
>>493583241because without these arguments the thread would die, anon
>>493583241NTA but man I suck with the AMR. That fire rate should be a dream but I suck ass with aiming
Who wants to do a sidearm only mission?lmao as if
>>493571093the more blatant shittery is you could get a sight picture for close objects right through here and it would be absolutely /good enough/ for what you need it to do
>>493583241I like the laser cannon
>>493583241I DO accept they both have their uses. I'm just putting forward counter-points to the AC-supremacists weasel arguments where he'll attack the AMR for needing to reload often while ignoring the fact the AC needs to reload even more often, or completely dismiss all of the AC's negatives and all the AMR's advantages over the AC as being irreverent or inconsequential.
>>493583671
>>493582870Still 3/4
>>493582870well we're going to start, pubs have mercy
>>493583241You're wrong, plain and simple. AMR is being nigh completely eclipsed by AC. Practically all shots you can take with AMR would be more productive if they had been taken with AC. Please stop coping and accept that it needs improvements.
>>493583894>AMR's advantages over the ACName themProtip: Sway, recoil and reload are barely relevant factors. You have skill issues if you believe otherwise.
>>493584895also both RG and HMG are better choices if you want to run a backpack build
I really like this game
>>493584895gee how did I know you'd be a slippery little weasel and just preemptively dismiss them.maybe because you always do every single time this topic is brought up. you're a bad faith, disingenuous debater.
>>493584895"barely relevant" he screams as he is yet again ragdolled by the devastator he was unable to kill because he cant coinslot with his meme gun
if you want to be the sniper guy, why not just run DCS and bring Commando or Spear for heavies? what motivates this AMR obstination? that gun has a number of problems. it's the definition of mid.
>>493585135same, it is really fun.
>>493585369>>493585658cope.exe
>>493583241AMR is better at sniping at long ranges.However, 97% of maps have either fog or trees or both preventing your from seeing past 75m.So in the end AMR is better at... killing rocket chicken? And worse or equal at everything else.
>>493585135the game can be quite thrillingI think people would think more highly of it if warbonds cost half as much1000 for the first 4, ok finebut the ones since then are worth only 500https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rWZJALwD6jM
>>493585671I do this, except I bring the autocannon for heavies
>>493572207gg boyz
Anyone down for a sneaky bot mission? d7, map wipe optional
>>493586061>AMR is better at sniping at long rangesBarely. AC can work over the same distances via first person mode. Add the red dot mod and the only substantial advantage AMR still has in long range combat is the adjustable magnification.
>>493586525Hug deniers have hungry assholes
squids are the stealth faction, trust the plan solodivers
>Try to hype the game by making some purple sectors appear>Lose even more players
>>493587636they will have electricity weapons and centralize the meta around premium armor
>>493588327>he's too poor to buy 300 sc armor from the sloppa store
>>493573308I realy like this picture.
>>493590053if you have the time to suffer through /hdg/ ops then you have time to farm D1 for super creds, even without the chink arrows I can get like 500 SC an hour
>joining a game puts me in Receiving Confirmation limbo where I can hear other players on their mics but I'm stuck on my own ship, staring at the democracy officerit's always fucking something
>>493586525this was a chest bump, not a hug
>>493540691but I need that flamethrower hulk dead NOW
>>493590053I paid for the game, stop defending them charging extra to unlock things
I'm comin' in hot. I need a lobby. Pugs are shit.
>>493590474Tell that to the judge.
>>493590796why did you target me personally just now
>>493586794AC users cannot stop coping
>press R>join game>save teammates>beat mission>"For Democracy.">leave
>>493593049you got the most melee kills and that's what matters.
>>493593676More people should melee.
>>493593049hell yeah brother
Somehow the rocket pods locked on to me.
How the literal fuck can you have over 50% of the playerbase on the planet but only be making 3.5% liberation an hour? Are that many total shitters just losing operations on bot front? Or is it a combination of that + normies playing on lower difficulties, making liberation % even WORSE?
>>493597497I never do the last mission on an op because I only play planets I like and want them to stick around longer
>>493597497people don't do full operations, they pick a mission they like then exit out and find another missions right after
>>493597497most of the playerbase is capped out on medals already so there's no point in doing full ops especially when there's always guaranteed to be one fucking annoying and boring eradicate mission and very often there's also the gay ass generator defense mission
Recommend a weapon loadout for bots 7-8
Guys, we need to secure Partion to cut off Trandor and Peacock.
>>493597948Generator and Eradicate never show up in the same operation at least, so I opt for the operations with erradicate in them since that takes like 5 minutes to beat compared to the 15 minute snorefest that the asset mission is. That said, the excuse of "playerbase is capped on medals" is bullshit since you could use it for the last MO that was a defense oriented one as well and that one was won easily. The reality is that the playerbase is just too retarded and sucks ass against the bots.
>>493598379Liberator Carbine, Bushwhacker, Throwing Knives, Predator Armor, Commando, 120 Barrage, 360 Barrage, Walking Barrage.
>>493598379anything unless you're retarded
>>493598715Jokes on you I'm retarded
>>493598702hmmmmm
Hey fellas, anyone got a webm of the larvae spinning in the tank?
>>493598702this sounds fun
I swear D10 bot enemy composition/design feels like it went full retard. There is something dead wrong with it and I can't pull finger on it.I think the biggest culprit is rocket strider which can kill you with one hit while wearing medium armor.I don't mind striders though, they feel like a fair game.
>>493584895Amr snaps on targets faster Backpack slotMoving reloadBetter accuracy
>>493599260>rocket strider which can kill you with one hit while wearing medium armorCan kill you in one hit in any armor.
>>493599413allow me to predict that faggots responses:>backpacks are all shit so this is irrelevent>skill issue if you need to keep moving while reloading>muh misaligned scope
>>493585135I love when the game clicks. Like when I'm just firing down range and shits just dying en masse.Feels great.
>>493581081...Or... Fire 9, reload, fire 2 reload repeat.
>Bot Bricks>15 minutes slog where you do nothing but aim your spear and turrets and shoot your HMG and refresh your sentries>You end up failing to random Barrager/Factory Strider that you can't shoot with your Spear because there's a billion Rocket Striders preventing your shitty lock-on sight to aim where you want>Faggot host still chooses it even though literally everyone hates it
>>493599260I just bring railgun to one shot those retarded striders now and then bring something that can fight devs, hulks, and tanks.
>>493600452>I just bring railgun>and then bring something that can fight devs, hulks,Uhh
>>493600838He must be the retarded guy from a few minutes ago
game would be better if the map was 3-4 times bigger and contained all the missions within the operation, and then you just need to extract once at the very end
your shitter posts are all irrelevant to me as I am a solodiver (as in, better at the game than you) so I can't bring garbage like the railgun since I need to also destroy gunships, factory striders and buildigns
>>493601116that sounds like absolute AIDS
>>493601116that sounds like absolute KINO
>>493601116that sounds like KINO AIDS
>>493601116>spending 3 times longer in buggy swedish lobbies
>>493601156>since I need to also destroy gunshipsUhh
Game feels like it needs 5 slots, or primaries to solve one of the things you need to bring.Like.I need anti heavy, I need chaff clear. I usually need two of each of those, if not three for chaff clear. Then I need something for the special units they throw at you.
>>4936014124 standard slots and 1 leader selectable slot would be better than the shitty 4 slot selection we have now. Though points instead of slots would be the best.
>>493601412gee anon it's almost like you should be choosing your loadout in conjunction with your teammates and working together with them to cover all your bases
>>493601116>40 minutes can already fit a near endless amount of frustrating and tedious bullshit>now you have to put up with the bullshit 3 times longer at a time>in the most unstable coop game of all time where anything can crash your game and the game can drop your connection randomly>if you fail this long-ass mission at any point you get absolutely nothing and wasted over an hour of your time
>>493601574But I play solo because the game turned to ass and my friends play nyo more.
>>493601641what diff do you play at?
>>493601574>teammatesbraindead take. team mates are not even REMOTELY reliable, you're better off running solo if your only other option is pugs
>>493601523I'd love if we could spend rec on mission boosts.
>gee anon it's almost like you should be choosing your loadout in conjunction with your teammates and working together with them to cover all your bases
>>4936017387 casually and to experiment with loadouts. 8 or 9 if I got a pretty solid loadout.We usually play at 10, and its ironically too easy with friends.
Ok game, I have tried playing for two missions now, and each time they start they go really well and I start having fun and then you just boot me to the super destroyer deck without any message. Just a black screen and then I get to watch all the naval staff glitch out. What's the problem? What are you trying to say that you apparently just don't want to use your words for? I'm not crazy, you're crazy!
>>493601870>>493596810seek help
>>493601574Even if we share support weapons/backpacks it's still not enough desu. It always boils down to spamming Walking Barrages and Airstrikes and that's just unfun
>>493601574Or just buff stuff so things are better all round and can actually be justified taking in that slot.
>>493601941Change the Steam download region to New York
>>493601941lobbies have been even more buggy than normal the last 48 hours
>>493601978This.Game is just soup spam of reds.
>>493602263yeah mopping up after eagle and barrage did the heavy lifting is not fun
>>493601978>swedish autism incorporates semi-realistic mechanics>realism in irl involves blowing opposition the fuck up from range with explosives delivered by artillery or aircraftI'm memeing more than just a bit, but after the free napalm I'd really like a more reliable way to have 5 stratagem slots than just the whims of the developers. I'm curious if you had any other thoughts besides just adding a 5th ball slot though.
lobby pleasealso>less than 30k on saturday prime timedead gaem
>>493602198>Change the Steam download region to New YorkWhat esoteric nonsense is this? Fuck it, I'll try it. But even voodoo practitioners have reasons for acquiring hair of their targets. Do I uninstall and reinstall the entire game?
>>493601927Against Bugs I take MG-43, Gas Strike, OPS, and 500kg.Against Bots I take HMG, Supply Pack, OPS, and Rocket Pods.
>>493602530No. Just change it, solved that booted to Destroyer thing for me. Verify your files while you're at it tho
ok ok fine, so we're in agreementeuropean extreme difficulty is you can only pick your loadout 1 time and it carries over to all missions in the opyou only get one health pool shared across all missions in the opno duplicate weapons or stratagems allowed (duplicates of the basic gear are an exception to this to prevent soft locking the game)
>>493602802Call it Super Deepdive while you're at it
lobby before the thread diessteam://joinlobby/553850/109775243135385073/76561198121770582we bots, we ragdollin, we insta-failin bricks
>>493602349They could have us grind to unlock a new Super Destroyer chassis with 5 stratagem slots. But maybe some of the slots are locked to a specific color stratagem.
>>493602936Nah just call it ThreewaySwedes know all about "threeways" ie the cuck watches
>>493602542Yeah that's basically anyone ever runs. Been trying to do anything outside that, and not rely on a support strat.
>>493603051I just starting verifying REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
anons i'm pretty sure there's no glass in the windows on the bridge
>>493603115If a fifth slot were to be unlocked, I'd rather it be available to players from the get go. I have absolutely no reasoning behind this thought other than personal feelings. >But maybe some of the slots are locked to a specific color stratagemThat doesn't sound too bad. Maybe have stratagem selection bound to sectors as well.
>>493603051what's the mission and diff
>>493603501too late, so doesn't matter, sorry!
Starting to think that 60 days plan was just an excuse to stop working on new content and just barely put some effort into a patch that could have been released in a week. Modifying values does NOT take this long
>>493603559gg anon, make some scrap
>>493603682They already took 2 months off before this with their mandated holidays and then you have pileofshit saying he finds out about game changes via facebook posts. Every swede must fucking hang.
Free Orbital Airburst Strike + Cluster Bombs + Airburst RL when
>>493603468Yeah, you could do Super Carrier with extra hangar modules and 3 Eagle-only strat slots with 2 anything slots.
>>493603682Their game is a mess of different systems interacting with each other, often in unintended ways, and any small changes causes 10 things to break. For instance, the worker lady in the destroyer hangar has been broken for weeks because some change elsewhere in the game broke her interaction code. This is why they are taking so long. They are making changes and then spending ungodly amounts of time fixing all the shit that breaks with each change. Also swedes are retarded assholes so that contributes too.
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