Previous Thread: >>493802812>Guides, Resources and useful links:https://rentry.org/bagguides>/bag/Circles/Clubs/Friends:https://rentry.org/holdingthebag>4koma, Manga, Side Content, PVs & Shortshttps://rentry.org/bacontent>>(JP)>9/4 (Wed) After Maint - 9/18 (Wed) 10:59 (JST)Ui (Swimsuit) (3* Limited rerun)Hinata (Swimsuit) (3* Limited rerun)Iroha (3* rerun)Miyu (3* rerun)>Events:[Rerun] In Search of a Hidden Heritage ~ Trinity's Extracurricular Activities 9/4 (Wed) After Maint - 9/18 (Wed) 10:59 (JST)>Content:Limit Break Assault: The Fury of Set (Field - w/Light Armor) - 8/22 (Thu) 11:00 - 9/25 (Wed) 3:59 (JST)Joint Firing Drill (Shooting) - 9/4 (Wed) After Maint - 9/11 (Wed) 3:59 (JST)Grand Assault: Perorodzilla (Field w/ Purple torment) - 9/11 (Wed) 11:00 - 9/18 (Wed) 3:59 (JST)2x Commissions - 8/28 (Wed) 4:00 - 9/4 (Wed) 3:59 (JST)2x Normals - 9/4 (Wed) 4:00 - 9/11 (Wed) 3:59 (JST)>>(GLOBAL)>Banners:>9/3 (Tue) After Maint - 9/17 (Tue) 1:59 (UTC)Akari (New Year) (3*)Haruna (New Year) (3* - Limited - Rerun)Fuuka (New Year) (3* - Limited - Rerun)Junko (New Year) (1* - Welfare)>News:Patch notes: https://forum.nexon.com/bluearchive-en/board_view?thread=2634213>Events:[Rerun] New Year's Aperitif - 9/3 (Tue) After Maint - 9/17 (Tue) 1:59 (UTC)>Content:Joint Firing Drill (Escort) - 9/3 (Tue) After Maint - 9/9 (Mon) 18:59 (UTC)Grand Assault: Binah (Urban - Torment w/Special Armor) - 9/10 (Tue) 2:00 - 9/16 (Mon) 18:59 (UTC)2x Lessons/Scrimmage - 9/2 (Mon) 19:00 - 9/9 (Mon) 18:59 (UTC)2x Normals - 9/9 (Mon) 19:00 - 9/16 (Mon) 18:59 (UTC)2x Hards/Commissions - 9/16 (Mon) 19:00 - 9/23 (Mon)
>>493815479Kei creampie
>>493814808I have the feeling.. I could wake up.. if.. kaya-chan stripped naked for me.. https://cdn.donmai.us/original/dd/83/dd83f6defcf63146a370bbecd06c58f0.jpg
Junko Status?
Saya please sit on my face and use your tail to jerk me off
>>493815479Kokona rape
How do i turn off furniture interaction without putting them away
>>493815581Yahoo
damncan't believe pikaman killed yume for nothing...
You>Student Wife>Age>your current job (opcional)
The next student posted will save Blue Archive
>>493815514this hime is new, I will steal it
https://careers.jobscore.com/careers/nexonamericainc/jobs/associate-brand-manager-blue-archive-ba1qRgItrh8ybvp_kHII-Kbaggots get the fuck in there and tell us what actually happened.
>we might never see another mx2j because he was the one who had the most obvious sabotage out of all the artists that allegedly left BAThoughts?
SEA bro, it's time to sleep.
>KV/concerposting/evil corpo starts>California hoursI'm NOOOOTICING
>>493815674Exactly.This is why all collab ideas are shit and should be frowned upon.
>a bunch of dialogues fixed>hina's valentine summary unchangedI guess Hina is canonically ugly.
Will she teach her kids to be racist?
Will not play Kim Red's Project KV, will not play Kim Blue's Project RX.I made it my rule that BA is the first and last gacha I ever touch and I will abide to this rule. When BA EoSes or finalizes its transition into a zombie I'll just find something else to waste my time on.
Sup /bag/gots.Anything important I've missed? I haven't come here in a while.
>>493815581>>493815643Fattening Jumbo up
>>493815770>Education, Professional Training, Technical Training or Certification>BA/BS degree or aboveWhere do i get a Blue Archive™ degree bro
Rio de Janeiro
>>493815678He killed her for the sake of pretentiousness >noooo muh story needs to have le steaks!!
coom in doom
My adorable daughterwife Azusa.
Nuke California
>>493815874yup-yup, the great Makoto-sama won, as usual.
>>493815723>opcional
>>493815723>(opcional)
>>493815630Edit > Tap on the furniture > Tap the magnifying glass > Uncheck the interaction.>>493815753It's decently old, about a month and a bit ago: https://x.com/n0_llp/status/1815961087965290538
holy shit the valentine's event was a mistake>some events don't even mention taking place on valentine's, it's just a student non-romantically giving you some chocolate in random circumstances>some take place on valentine's but either the student just happened to give you chocolate without realizing the connotations or very clearly gave you obligatory chocolate>only small number of students are actually shown to care about sensei and made plans to give or make chocolate for youwhat the fuck were they thinking? why would you go out of your way to make an event that confirms that canonically most students don't have romantic feelings for sensei? my favorite students had decent events but it was still awful overall
>>493815950And a little bit of chicken fried
>>493815770>CaliforniaI guess one of the trannylators couldn't take it no more
You don't get it.Isakusan is innocent.Clockman was fucking with his mind. We must forgive.
>>493815723>Mihomo image>(opcional)
You are canonically ugly, faggot
Fucking opcional
>>493815723Oh fuck off glowie, this soon?Fine, Kaho, 29, shitty deskjob.
Mutsuki...no...
>>493815723Saori22In uni rn
>>493815770>We offer medical, dental and vision plans for you, your spouse or domestic partner and your children. Employees who enroll in the high deductible health plan receive an annual employer contribution to a health savings account and company paid hospital indemnity benefits. We also provide company paid life, AD&D, short-term and long-term disability benefits as well as access to voluntary life and AD&D for yourself and your dependents, flexible spending accounts, a 401(k) savings plan with a company match, and pet insurance. Nexies are encouraged to take advantage of our monthly wellness credit, participate in lunchtime yoga, and enroll in language classes. We host bi-monthly catered lunches, monthly happy hours, and maintain a well-stocked snack bar. To help you maintain a good work life balance, we offer paid time off, sick days, company holidays, and a year-end break.How well did that work out for Scott?
How do you feel about these artists being purged from Blue Archive forever?
Kirino sex
>>493816075Kayoko...
>>493816119I AM THE CLOCKMAN
>>493816025>>493816052>>493816123It really corrected optional to Spanish Don’t bully me please
Sensei is asking for it
>>493815912A FUCKING CLONE
>>493816075>only small number of students are actually shown to care about sensei and made plans to give or make chocolate for youWhat? The vast majority are like that.
>>493816248That story honestly sounds like one those freak death stories from before 20th century you read up on wikipedia. I don't wanna make fun of a dead guy but is something so simple as water flavoring really that deadly?
He's changing to cuckposting out of nowhere
>>493815723Shun33teacher
>>493816249Mx2j should be purged from this world
The /bag/gots begging for more collab students must remember how powerful can be it's monkey paw.If they collab with FOTM animes or gachas it means they're desperate for newfags.If they collab with other Yostar IPs, vtumors or Persona 5, then it's fucking over, EOS becomes imminent.
>>493816173>shitty deskjobHey it could be worse
>>493816119>>493816326Who will be our Kuroko ex Machina?
>>493816349Good I don't want my shitty slav DNA to fuck up her offspring
Niko is 15
>>493815723>Ako>45>Customer service specialist at a local dining establishment
I'm 3 times as old as Kokona and I want to fuck her.
>>493816249>Noa alt will be soulless>No more Hina alts>No more Yuuka alts>Kisaki release never ever>Rio release never ever>Mika alt never everIt's truly OVER
>>493816451Protip: They aren't /bag/gots
>>493816451Collabs are on hold because yostar dogeza'd to the chinks
>>493816510What a fucking hag. The best moment of her life is already behind her.
>>493816451This.I don't want collab sluts. I want them to release more students.
We could have had Blue Archive + actual fanservice but you guys ruined it
Niko is 17 or 18
>>493816249Wait was Hwansang part of KV as well? They didn't do that many characters but they did do some of the most popular ones including my 100kg wife
>>493816249Only Hwansang is confirmed to have left, and he hasn't done a sprite since release
>>493816542WOW ARE YOU BASED
>>493816327I might have forgiven you because Silver Wolf is cute but Spanish is too much
You wouldn't Koharu.
>>493816662Yes>>493816664Hwansang was the art director thoughever
Nobody remembers Miyu anymore
>>493816451I don't want collab, not because of the shitty EoS joke. No I don't want collabs cause they will all become lesser unit compared to the scope of the game:- Cannot appear in story- Cannot appear in group story- Shitty gift system- No Valentine momoThe reality is that when you pull a collab character, you pull an inferior version of your students.Reject all collabs.
>>493815723Hina28I validate risk models in a bank
>>493816774I will never forget my cute rabbit daughter.
>>493815723Hime21Finished my Master's, still looking for one.
>>493816658Yeah, yeah. Heard this yesterday already. Get new material, your mask is slipping off
>>493815678Hoshino = IsakusanYume = Project KV
>>493816119He needs to bweh first
>>493816774Egg was broken. Now she is just a sex craved perv.
>>493815723Serika36I fit roofs and solar panels
>noa has a goofy ass face>gets drawn as a semen demon by fans>nonomi has a goofy ass face>gets drawn with a goofy ass face by fans?
Things that could save BA:>2hu collab>bunny Koyuki>wedding dress C&C alts>Yuuka 2nd alt>playable shupos>more Momoi
>>493816670And if I post sexy students?
>>493815723>Hina>36>teacher
key sexo
>>493816658
>>493816451>persona 5persona 6 when
We totally should do a collab with KVCollabing with a game that was cancelled before release would have been industry's first
>>493816451Collab with Touhou.Collab with Senran Kagura.Collab with uhhhhhh..... Monster Girl Encyclopedia.
Thoughts on the portraits made by the new artists? Do you think we're in good hands?
>>493817049Post your studentwife or we will beat you with our cocks.
>>493817041I was playing eratoho but whatever I did I just couldn't get sakuya to be submissive.
Don't cry for me, I'm already dead
>>493816984Nonomi is relatively harmless compared to Noa.Noa can be scary.
>>493817189We are fine
>>493816451That's why we collab with boomer franchises like Railgun.
>>493817041>2hu collabGay ass faggot. KYS.
>>493817189Actual sex so yes. Much better than what mx2j shat out along with those banger
>>493817189BA's in house style is pretty settled in at this point so honestly art is not gonna be a problem. If anything it's a good thing mjx2 left
>>493817351It wasn't good though.Even the nips don't have much positive things to say about it.
>>493817193Fine, here
>>493817041>>wedding dress C&C altssaori has dibs on the wedding dress
>>493816984noa is a massive slutnonomi is pure
>>493817189>Nemoga draws Kirino better than Doremi>Paruru is the probably the feet dev...
>>493817189Atsuko looks very pretty
>>493815723cross referencing this post with the affection check
>collab babs>He read the story and got force-fed Saten>His students get cockblocked by cock-greedy Saten visiting his cafeLMAO
>>493817189Very good
>>493817189They look better than mx2j's alts
>Remember Qipao Marina>Get pissed offMan I know we'll never get an actual explanation of what happened but it pisses me off and I even tried to tell people shitting so much on m2xj was unwarranted for and that he maybe was going through a low point
>>493817428That may be the case, but it's the solution to avoiding EoS collabs and FOTM collabs.
>>493817431Ok fine you pass. We will forgib you for being Spanish.
>>493817664Does Miku visit even if you don't have her?
How do you respond to this?
>>493817189I love my princesswife...and yes we are definitely in good hand, fuck the K*shill, fuck the doomposter.
>>493817764I hate sh*rt "hair" so fucking much
>>493817764I like Serika
>>493817764*gulp*
>>493817764"No."
Renge's momos are unexpectedly adorable.I love her flustered face.
>>493817189
>>493817189SEXSEXSEXHIROYSEX
>>493817189Tomoe is an imposter, the rest are fine.
>>493817728I'm just glad nu-m2xj didn't draw new C&C alts.Imagine ruining pic related.
Mika should die
>>493817189I'll have to wait to see what they do for NPCs because mx2j's work on Gematria and the android characters was top notch.
>>493817189Is S!Kanna's portrait made by an old artist?
>>493817761She doesn't, neither does any of the other collab characters if you don't have them.
>>493817764yeah, and?
>>493818008Yes please
>>493816249Its over
>>493817728>shitting so much on m2xj was unwarrantedSounds like it was perfectly warranted?
>>493817764I love Yume
>>493817921>P-sensei's world got destroyed because he was only focused on giving Plana sexSmart man. I would to since she respects my rights.
>>493818028kokosando. The artist that also drew the doomer.
>>493818028Made by kokosando
>>493816664Child is gone too. He was one of the Nexon whistleblowers
Why the FUCK is she like this?
>>493817728The only thing that comes to mind is that maybe, MAYBE Q. Marina was done at the same time as assband, when they piled pretty much everything on top of him. It's really the only explanation that makes immediate sense to me but I don't believe it.
>>493818009>NPCsNiyaniya?
>>493818052that's yogurt?also, where is the (fake) one?
>>493817976I feel like mx2j botching Asuna's 2nd alt would have caused a lot of chaos.
You can't tell me this wasn't sabotage
>>493817976I wonder when exactly was the point those guys just tapped out from BA
>"The fried chicken was cold"
>>493818234The schoolgirl one was already fairly disappointing
>only mitsukuyo was smart enough to be freelancer and announce himself as a "free lancer" so he can go back and forth>none of the old main artists did(except 9ml because he's the art director now)
Aru is the best girl in this game. I have no proofs, but I have no doubts either.
>>493818263Maybe Mx2j forgot he was drawing for BA and not KV
>>493817728Yeah I wonder why people stopped forgiving him after the KV reveal.Oh wait, I know, SHOULDERS.
nyannyannyannyan nyan nyan
>>493815479>Mina is the student with the most birthday threads so far, with 11 threads, even when someone sniped one thread earlier >the previous record was Hina with 9
>>493815874Were there recent patch notes? I thought the only dialogue fix recently was Aru
>>493818263imo saori's alt is worse. probably the first BA design I was actually let down on seeing it at first sight. at least her l2d is good
Bros, do we really need Mx2J back on the BA team? Comparing his most recent portraits with the ones from the new artists is making me wonder if we're better off without him...
>>493817728Thing is, though, is that he's not the only one that had to okay that. He submitted it, sure. But the team at Nexon were still the ones that were like, yeah, that looks perfectly fine to me.This kind of goes back to what I was talking about yesterday that, yes, these team members were definitely not putting in their A effort for the past year, but you still had all these directors and project managers and all sorts of other checks and balances within the company that should have been catching that and should have been making them work harder, but instead they didn't do anything, which really makes me think that it's not just an issue with those people that left but with company as a whole.
>>493818263People keep on bringing up Q.Marina as if it was this big turning point but Kaede and Natsu's alt sprites were equally as bad for me.
>>493818263how did this pass QC
We can all agree that Momoi got the best Valentine's Day story, right? She deserves it, she is the best character after all.
>>493818401
>>493818401I'm racist too, but even I think that's a notch too far.
>>493816248>NexiesI prefer nexxers.
>>493818528Wrong.
>>493818198Proofs?
>>493818263The one thing I notice from him is why the nerf on asses and thighs. I remember how juicy the bunnies were. D.Saori had ass but thin thighs and S.Saori has the opposite, juicier thigh but no ass.
>>493818492QC was dynamis plant also.......
>>493818528
>>493818472Dude the sweet club got fucking downgraded
>>493817785>good hand>Totally fucked over Arius for the second time in a rowNah
>>493818263You can't unsee this now: look at the lower right, she doesn't even have heels, based on the angle of her foot, she's wear high heels, but where is it?>trad. chink footwear doesn't have those broNice try but look at Kaguya
>>493818401What the fuck marinyan, you can't say that
>>493818487Chise would never
>>493818419He's washed. I like Marina too, she's my favorite redwinter, so it's annoying her sprite's messed up. Fan artists will fix it though.
>>493818470At the same time if you have deadlines to meet, then you'll probably just have to send it even if you have reservations about the submission. The entertainment industry working on really tight deadlines is rather industry standard. Like the Hina Dress event was only finished last minute.
>>493818419akemi is so fucking ugly is unbelievablegod damn
>>493818470Well the art director also fucking bailed out and at that point they probably trusted his judgement or nobody dared to speak up, but in the end we'll never know
>>493818201Your fault.
>>493818381marina is a rw student so being a starved bony girl is accurate
>>493818492>art director left along with with the artistgee, I wonder
>>493818470>but the team at Nexon were still the ones that were like, yeah, that looks perfectly fine to me.Yes. Correct. And the guy who OK'd it is also one of the people that left.That and mx2j still drew it and has been defending after the fact.
>>493818657I SEE IT
>>493815723>Ibuki>43>Malaysian Secret Service trainee
>>493818679AHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
>>493818487>You're very slow
>>493816451>new collab characters>but still no new studentsI would spontaneously combust.
>>493818470>should have been catching that and should have been making them work harderDon't get caught up in the hard work = good work mindset. mx2j was working TOO hard, Hwansang (or 9ml maybe) was just giving him way too many fucking jobs to handle. What they should have done was split up the sprite work more evenly and make sure the artists had the time to do revisions so they could do their best.
nom nom
>>493818679Fucking kill yourself lmao, why must you show me things I don't want to see?
>>493818709If he's overworked couldn't he have just sent the gig for other artists on the team?
>>493816552>No more Hina altsKoi will make mHina's alt
>>493818263who even is the art director now?
>>493818419I'm just praying they fix Natsu before release.They won't.
heypost cats
>>493815723Plapna26I catch fish
>>493818263>>493818679WHAT THE FUCK
>>493818679WHAT THE FUCK????
>>493818679>>493818880The fuck
>>493818912
>>493818912Got it, I'll post dog.
>>493818679huh.Marina's sprite really is the gift that keeps on giving. Every time I think I've fully taken in how slapshod of a job it is something else crops up.
Reading other generals on /vg/ talking about the controversy really puts into perspective how much of a KR echo chamber /bag/ is. Practically no one is siding with nexon in this situation, only /bag/ is.
>>493818679Maybe mx2j was making uma musume fanart and just reused it for Marina
I'm gonna say itWappi had the best valentine
>>493818201It's my fault and it's cute.
/bag/ is probably the only general can't stop thinking about BIG THROBBING COCK!
>>493818902i'd pay extra to get the whole ass club redrawn
>>493818745>>493818758Hwansang had been in an advisory position for months at that point. He had nothing to do with it.
>>493818679She doesn't need heels with her superior russian muscles.
>>493815723Aru25Hazmat foreman
>>493818816Kuroko art was done by doremi, hwansang, and mx2j simultaneously. There's no reason why 1 character should have 3 artists working on it. Honestly from the looks of it it feels like those guys just wanted to keep the art within their circlejerk
Am I weird for wanting Tsurugi to sit on my face?
So is it confirmed that Mx2j is finally gone or is everyone just speculating that he got blacklisted?
bwoop bwoop bwoop bwoop
>>493818419Edit Akemi before you release her, otherwise it will be too late
>>493819174that's normal
>>493818993>He cares about what randos think on an anonymous Mongolian basket weaving forum
>>493819065Dev lead times for live service games are long and they make these things months in advance. It's entirely plausible hwansang was still around when he looked at mx2j's qipao marina and okay'd it.
When does Global get the rest of V1C3? Or at least something more than the prologue?
MYSTERY NIGGA
Marriage and pregnancy mechanics will save BA
>>493818880No, she's a wyverian so she has digitigrade legs.
>>493819174Any interaction with Tsurugi is a blessing.
>>493818993You're right /bag/ is a shithole. BA is dead. I'm quitting BA and anyone with a self respect should do the same thing
>>493818657https://files.catbox.moe/jvg7os.png
>>493819268Railgun collab part 2 with Kuroko and Uiharu soon...
>>493815723Ako23Work at Glock factory as semen quality inspector
>>493819267Spread out in the next 4 months, till the next Bluefes.Endure.
>>493819253/bag/ can't make up their mind on this lol>all the new stuff is great! Hail the newfags!>oh wait those bad things are all by the old people, long lead times and allLol
>>493819226Nobody knows anything for sure stop asking these stupid ass questions
>>493819267It's strung along until the 3.5 anniversary.
>>493819250Nothing wrong with avoiding internet echo chambers. So yes it is something I do care somewhat about as a sanity check. Parroting KR rumors is not something you should aspire to be doing.
>>493818748if she's starving how did she grow those tits
Did you know?
>>493819356
>>493819267hopefully never
>>493819356Go back, tourist.
Mx2j took away her ass AAAAAAHHHHHHH
>>493818993All gacha generals are shit and /bag/ is no exception.
Please refrain from doomposting without a picture of Seia.
>>493815723>surverypost>at the start of the thread>non-BA image>ESL
>>493818263Marina is ugly anyway
>>493819356you forgot your picture bro
>>493819520He took away her ass to give her those tits
>>493818993Damn bros, did you hear what /kvg/ said about /bag/? People were laughing man
>doremi>mx2j>CHILD>MISOM150Did (You)r student wife's artist leave Nexon?
>>493819229Get Yaegashi Nan as a guest artist, she is literally Daidouji from Senran
>>493819454See more
>>493819645Yes, thank god
>>493819454No...
>>493818679Horse Marina
If mxj2 got blacklisted from GODxon, I will pop my pakeji virginity and buy some.Did he?
>>493818993So what you're telling me is you're gonna shill another gacha to /bag/?
I love Akemi's design. Her model just needs to get fixed up a bit.
What's her name /bag/
>>493819645> 7peachI have no idea.
>>493819384It's almost like more than one person is making comments on the issue, some that aren't even in agreement with each otherIf you asked me, everything we have seen so far on jp is stuff already finished before doremi, mx2j, hwansang, isakusan, etc. walked out. There was a 2023 interview essentially stating as much that everything for 2024 had already been finished. We won't know the actual after effects of them walking out until 2025 at the earliest.
>>493819718So you don't know
when the fuck is this shit going to end
>Had to lose a bunch of other artists to get rid of Mx2jDamn getting curses removed is costly. Worth it though.
>>493819782Amazing she looks stunning the moment you leave the manly traits out of the picture
>>493819438And listening to people who only have a cursory understanding of a topic is somehow better? That's like going to the Nintendo sub to research Playstation news
>>493819645Mine hasn't done shit with my studentwife for 3 years.
interlinked
>>493819782Her chibi is fine though. If anything it's the sprite problem.
MisinformationCHADS keep winning.
>>493819805YukinoYeah, I'm that autistic, my bad
>>493819817>7peachContract artist and got too hooked into HSR.
>>493818993Makes sense to me. People outside of /bag/ don't play BA so don't care if the game dies because a bunch of people leave. Just like I wasn't going to play KV so I don't care that that project died.
>>493818993>but what about nexon
>>493819513You don't understand this loss. I was holding this game up singlehandedly and now everything is going to crash down. Years from now you will be thinking to yourself "Why didn't I stop anon from leaving BA?" and cry yourself to sleep
>>493819864When actual /bag/ posters stop replying. When the number of shitposters from other generals decreases and they stop replying to one another. Reminds me of when people used Kemono Friends and Azur Lane as an excuse to shit up the KanColle threads. Took a good year to stop.
>>493815912She bore a kid for the new head master of the Arius Branch School
>>493819864Not until the next stream at least.
>quitposting>offtopic>kvposting>other gacha imagesWe are missing revenue charts. Hurry up tourists, we don't have all day.
I want to impregnate Mika, she will be the best mother.
they should poach fgo artists like kurobochi
>>493815723Wakamo27Videogame Programmer
Do you think Nexon finally realized that Mx2J purposely lowered the quality of the portraits he was assigned, meaning we won't see any new portraits from him (if he even drew any others before leaving)?
>>493819905Unironically yesFans are blinded by their biases and have self-imposed tunnel visionJust look at KR spouting off the most insane conspiracy theories about this whole controversy and acting in an unflattering way (see: arisu_archive, the entire dcinside / arcalive communities). Meanwhile normal people look at that and think they're crazy, and not in a good way.
>>493819991Well good for him/her, at least he/she gets a big fat paycheck.Just like my wife's big fat tits.
>>493819491What's in the bag?
>>493819843Know what?
>>493819426>>493819375Whew I have a feeling it's gonna be a rough wait.Thanks bros
>>493820110They could do some touch-ups of his sprites to save money while making they look less desaturated etc, like how they touched up Meru and Momiji's sprites.
>>493815723Akira27Hovercraft Destroyer
>>493819356What?? No dude you can't leave, we need you! You were the glue holding everything together! /bag/ will never be the same without you!
I just wonder how 9ml feels after all of this
Roll Umika
>>493820110Fatties might not be aware of that but this is called a clavicle
I like this guy.https://twitter.com/NihahaXD/media
Thinking about Peebuki
Love evil women.
>>493820328Only if you post a bunch of Umika in revealing clothes.
>>493820328AAAARGGHGH! EL DIABLO! EL MEPHISTO!
>>493815723>mihomo tranny>spicWho would've thought. Also, you're most likely a vtumor faggot too. So just kill yourself, you disgusting freak
I'm so CONCERNED you guize, oh my lawdy.
>>493820387I'm gonna Ibukilate
>>493820345Where's the other one then
>>493819645>9mlI heard he actually got a promotion
Did Kim's chicken at least taste good?
I'm currently sitting on 17k pyros and 2 tickets. Will I have enough for Kirara, s.Kanna, S.Hiroy and Kuroko? please say yes
>>493820407I'll do you one better
>Kosaka "Hovercraft" Wakamo, the seventh of the Seven Prisoners
9ml of semen
>>493820407nyo
>>493817431how did they make a school lunch lady so wifeable?
>>493820507One image is hardly a bunch.
>>493820345They are so deep wouldn't that mean she is anorexic? with those boobs?
>>493820498
>>493820498> KiraraYes.> S.KannaYes.> Bluefes and HiroyYes.Or just check the planner.
>>493820328I'm considering it. I'll give her my tickets at least.
>>493817764I love emilia
>>493820387Thinking about Peebuki's ibupee!
>>493820429He is also the Hifumifaggot
>>493820507Umika is kinda stack, must be the tight kimono.
>>493820156So you're admitting to being a tourist? Got it
>>493820507Pina
>>493820507This is obscene. Children can see these lewd drawings. What will the japanese boys and girls become growing up with images like this? Can't you see that this is not right?
>???What the fuck
Someone post the actual sizes of Umika's umika. I need to confirm before jerking on off to her doujin.
https://magma.com/d/25itcbss27https://magma.com/d/25itcbss27https://magma.com/d/25itcbss27Aggie will be closed this evening, draw something before it's over
>>493820461clavicles tend to poke out depending on your pose>>493820576Yes artists tend to draw models border-line anorexic but with big breasts
we just don't know
>
It take a shitposter and a globalcuck to ruin a good general. Alway those two subhumans.
>>493819946I'm sure Mine talks to Azusa sometimes
How effective is Umika in Set? I suppose Sakurako is objectively better in all regards and that Shiroko Terror pushes her farther down.
>>493820929Actual photo evidence https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ClavicleSadly I don't have a specific photo of a really skinny person with a non-standard pose
>>493820868I didn't do anything!
does anybody remember the gitub link to save assets from BA ? i need it for a little something
>>493821090Worse than CUtaha and SIzuna
Remember that time everyone uses Tsubaki for PVP? Good times
>>493821223She still sees use in some anti Haruna comps.
Help, I've lost my ihopeyoulike.jpg
>>493819645Yes and I'm upset
>>493819303>>493819249Okay good, I can’t tell if she’d be in moe mode or losing her fucking mind while sitting
>>493821223I still max her out for PVP though....
>>493820767Yeah yeah keep self-reinforcing that echo chamber of yours that you've built up for yourself, that's definitely healthy for your mindset.
>Dogposting start>White mans show upAm noticing.
>>493821287have a png instead
When is Set happening in global, it's really soon, right?
>>493820868I love table_humping. It's so lewd. Almost like women rubbing their crotch against sheets/other people
SoTriple striker? Or will she get the >special treatment?
>>493821376Comes with Umika
>>493821376During or after the Hyakko Guide Event.
>>493820885what should I draw?
>>493821457She will get the B.Koyuki treatment
Just saw the document you guys were looking at. Even if only half of it was true, isn't it still kind of super bad for those D1 developers?
Everyone, I have bad newsFans of furry netorare yaoi gacha games dislike our game and do not side with us in the juicy Nexon dramaThey are very vocal about our echochamber in their echochambersI am very concerned
>>493820885>this evening what's that in hours?
>>493820124Mama's lust-provoking body...
>>493821457>goatse halo
>>493820686And a FuukafagWhat does this say about spics?
plain girls are so cute bros...
>>493821485>>493821492All right,I leveled up regular Hanako and Wappi just for this, hopefully I'm good.
>>493821570>Just saw the documentI'm bored at work. Gimme.
>>493821457I'm hoping for a striker. It would be pretty hilarious if she'd release as a special, since that'd mean there are 3 specials on the nyGourmet banner
>>493821457Special. She's the runt, the unfavorite, the Serika of the Gourmet.
How would you feel if Rumi's artist worked on more designs for Blue Archive?
>>493821570if the bit about faking financial records is true whoever is responsible is definetely getting some serious jail time.
>>493821758Rumi is not a slut wtf
>>493821576Crazy how the people rallying behind the BA killer were a bunch of furries, yuritarded, homos, futaniggers, troons and all other kind of garbage
>>493819645I'm actually genuinely wondering who's even left at this point. We haven't seen most of the other artists in fucking forever. 9ml and kokosando as competent as they are can't do the work of like 7 people all at once. Mx2j alone was like 3 people in 1 with how crazy his output was, and I'm not talking just student illustrations.
>>493821519sexy seia
>>493821737She's more popular than zumbo
>>493821758What's the artist name?
>>493821687UE50 Wappi?
>>493821932Kanzarin
>>493821828HEY SENSEI, COME EAT ALL THIS ENERGY PACKED, ZINC PACKED FOODOH YEAH, I WORE MY CUTEST LINGERIEBECAUSE I KNEW ALL THE STEAM AND SWEAT WOULD MAKE MY TOP TRANSLUCENTGET A GOOD LOOK
>>493821339You said it, not me. Fans are not to be trusted with the media they consume. So what does that make you if you're not a fan? By all definition, that would make you a tourist. Also I think it's even more unhealthy to be part of a community you do not like, but that's just me
Can we adopt them?
Do not fret guys.Todd Howard will save Blue Archive.
Last image before I go to workI hate being a wagie so much its unreal
>>493821576Whoa.I can't believe the people that hated us before this shitstorm sided against us...Very concerning stuff
>>493821995>vtuber
>>493821932
good morning it's after noon but still good morningI obviously did not miss anything important last night.
>>493818880hooves
>M-muh artists have left, who will draw my waifu now?!I don't care, the bigger loss would be if the Chibi designers would have left the company.You can replace an artist, but you can't replace the man who made this fuckable.
>>493822184YOU'RE NOT GONNA BELIEVE ABOUT SHIZUKO'S ARTIST
>>493821852Like hell she is. Junko's at least a dev favorite, who is Izumi supposed to appeal to?We don't even have an Izumi fag.
>>493822184Your favorite BA artists are into vtumor shit as well, get use to it.
Uhhh I thought the shitstorm is over because KV is now dead? Are there more leaks and shit?
I SAID POST THE LINK BITCHES DON'T IGNORE ME
>>493822184do you rike?
>>493822276i like izumi
>>493821887Bro, your bond 100 Jumby baggot?>>493822276Y-You too haha
>>4938219423* still, I have no idea what's actually involved or needed in Set honestly, I just leveled up a few students people were saying was helpful. There was never any chance of me maxing out Set anyway, long as I do okay it's fine.
Dress Natsu ruined the party..
>>493821582I guess, around 6 hours from now?
>>493822197Saucenao can do THAT?!?
>>493822330It has only begun
>>493822330People are slowly sobering up to the fact that killing KV won't suddenly bring back all the staff that left. And that these events will almost definitely have negative effects for BA in the future.
>>493822330Yes Ibuki is being a really bad kid
should I be concerned?
>>493822113In Todd we trust
>>493822417Then I have no choice but to undress Natsu
>>493821819Even not including that they looked like they really fucked up.Last I heard they lost a lot of goodwill in KR and JP seems like they also hate them. Dunno if that's true though.
>>493822330>Are there more leaks and shit?Yeah the fucking pipe in my toilet room.
>>493822332heres your link
>>493820756>>493820872How cute are Umika's momos?
One slot open on my friends list. North America. Don't care if you're a new player or ultra casual.
>>493822404Who the fuck let Brosnan play BA?
>>493822580That is not good, you should get that checked
>>493822080no>that chibi artstylechan co got blacklisted as well, lol.
>>493822646What do you have to offer?
>>493822467forgot your pic bro.don't worry, this one is on me.
>nuts postingPlease no, I'm away from home right now
>>493822623https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TTHvxgSyugU
>>493822661>no hasumiNah
I'm going to COONCERN.oh god I'm COONCERNING AAAAAAAAAAAAAA
>>493822708You know you can just look at my card, right?
This thread needs more retarded students
>>493821737Maybe if they give her a personality besides "dumbass glutton", people would like her more
Starting to hate ESLs Know this, ESLs, I'm starting to hate you
>>493822080>chan co was even in on itJesus how much of a silver tongue did the ceo have
>>493822750Bruh she's remind me someone from 2hu.
>>493822578I only follow artists but they all seem to be just kinda disappointed, thought not particularly surprised. Considering half of them have a meltdown if someone so mich as reposts their art, they probably understood the potential plagiarism allegations.
>>493822330This is just the fallout of the drama, people will forget about in a week at best and a month at worst, the status quo will be back to normal
>>493821758Let 'er cook
>>493822750I don't want a full spoiler, I prefer to read the full momos when I get the student, just a small description like "similar to mimori" or "clingy"
>>493822225Crazy thing is we don't even know their names. We don't know how many people work on the 3d models and the animation
>>493822809>calls reisa retarded>claims reisa is his daughterBwow? Doesn't that mean you're retarded too?
can i learn to draw if my visual cortex is physically damaged?
Okay that’s it, fuck the Seia posters
>>493823008Yes
Guys I dont stay up to date with everything all I know is artists are leaving. Eos is impossible right?
>check friend list>last login: 116 days ago, 74 days ago, 55 days agoI don't want to delete them...
>>493823040
>>493823036just try faggot
>>493823086I delete after 10 days.
>>493822816This
this is very concerning
>>493823069Nah don't worry
>>493823086I have one person who hasn't logged in a month but he was a whale so I'm hesitant to get rid of him just in case he comes back
>>493823008HELL YEAH BABYI AM A MASSIVE RETARD
>>493822594Are you a POC? The way you type gives me a mixed descendent vibe.
The lack of sexy Seia post is very concerning
____ ______ ____?
>>493823230Piece of crap?
So now what do we do with brown sex incarnate?
sexy seia hours
Michiru is not fazed.
Event where Sensei has to babysit all the biggest retards in Kivotos, Reisa, Koyuki, Momoi, etc
>>493823392You mean Karin? Marry her
I'm going to release 2 years worth of concern inside Seia.
I haven't even done anything except login to BA to collect the daily reward mostly out of habit ever since this mess began. Just near zero motivation. I have zero hope that BA will recover at this pointYeah. I'm still login both BA Global & BA JP, but since this incident I feel like it's not the same anymore.this could be seen from a mile away btw. /bag/gots just did too good of a job at shielding it from anons in the thread. KV defectors were known since the anime drama and was even talked sbiut in the gacha drama thread then. it took getting its own "general" on /vg/ for this to get past the echo chamber.Same, zero motivation even though I got very lucky on the current banner
>>493822532Why is she making that face?
Am a 31 years old coomcerner and my only purpose of living are jacking off doomposts and Seia.
>>493823354never
>>493823069Some xitters are disappointed in how the fandom handled the situation, talking about defamation and other conspiracies.Fanartist don't really care, they only leave when a new trends appears.
>>493823565I married her already, but I need a second wife to populate Kivotos with tanned girls.
>>493823412Yes>>493823652Always
And that just is, tourists doko?
my lovely wife Mika
>>493823616
>>493823767Is rickshaw mob canonically bushy?
Concerning stuff
>>493822225
>>493824038I dunno, would that make it harder for her to run or easier?
Seia is far too powerful, she can doom a game with a single glance
>>493823616You already posted this in /kvg/
Remember when BA was good?
IT FEELS GOODTO KNOW YOUR MINESO DRIVE MEFAR AWAY
Is this game woke?Would Grummz/Kabrutus approve of this game?
do you?
>>493822409Well, if you can't/don't plan to go to "Floor 97" (the highest level required to get the new mats) then you probably won't need UE50. You can also get enough mats to do what you need to in two months instead of one
Is there any other piece of media that has provided the world with as many top tier lolis as blue archive?
Remember when KV was good? yeah me neither.
Im going to doom Seia's hymen
>>493822808What if I'm too fucking lazy, huh?
>>493824384
>>4938243732hu
>>493824373I like that green loli from GI.That's it.AL also has a bunch of good lolis, but most of them suck shit gameplaywise, and forgotten.
1 cake1 game1 Seia
>>493823640Because I didn't give her the cream pie she was expecting.
>>493822959Festival autism
>>493824123>>493822225Harukute love
Shuro is evil!
>>493822959dude, festivals, lmao
>More and more "last login" postsAIIIEEEEEEEEE THE SHIP IS STEERING TOWARDS THE ICEBERG
>>493824146harderhair drags you down
dress Hina more like (un)dress Hina, am i right bros?
>last login: 1 day agoIt's nyover....
>>493824715Then she's as smooth as the baby. The ideal wife.
>>493824685>>493824598Sounds cute
>>493824461Nobody is sending me a request.
>last login: todayhe's quit the game...
>>493824809Brother need to finish his Space Marine 2 campaign first.
>>493824689Crashing my titanic right into Seia's icebergAll hands on her deck, releasing every single one of my life boats at once
>>493824596consider... TWO SEIAS
Why do other platforms take /bag/ as their source of information? Is /bag/ trustworthy?https://youtu.be/3UAiTPOjXKA?si=8zjg-LVTtX_7F_sr
Dance dance dance
Nexonmeltybond 100Erikaleave for goodyou fill the gaps
>>493824757Yes, naked students
>>493824907We are already friends.
Project KV wouldn't have happened if you admitted that Hifumi is sexy.
>never really cared about lolis>at best there were cute for me>rolled Kasumi some time ago because she was cute>but didn't really use her since>decided to mess with her a bit>now I always put in her in my team>pretty much obsessed with her>love her personality and voiceCunnybros, I own you an apology
>>493825016>Fall into SeiapostingKEK
>>493824547You can win the next time, Professor
>>493825005AND A CAKE!
>>493825016I'm not gonna watch your video
>>493823281
>>493825103>he fell for her
>>493825103Kasumi is not cunny bwo
>>493825016HAHAHAHAHAHAHA
>>493824337https://deidetected.com/games/the-first-descendantNexon is DEI free.
>>493825103Kasumi has an ADULT WOMAN voice and is very sex because of it.
>>493825103https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UDYMZsqqJ-kHA HA HA
Saori owes me sex
>>493825016too easy
>>493825103It's because of the oba-san voice isn't it?
>>493825103Bond level?
>>493825042
>>493825016We are too powerfull
>>493825103Kasumi cunnilingus.
Post your favorite Planas
>>493825561Where is she going?
>>493824757
>>493825807The knackery.
>>493825784Dolphin shorts are a cheat code.
>>493825784
>>493824757You're absolutely correct.
>>493825915Why?
>>493825017
Choose 1
Brazil school when?
>>493825807To combat crime
>open /bag/>uhhhseia status???
Stop falling in love with criminals.
>>493825981My cute princess
Kei love
>Concernposting is completely goneNoticing status?
>>493826018They activate my almonds instantaneously.
>>493826187sexy
>>493826297Back to 3dpd and doodoo spam.
>>493825784More like Plapna
>>493825784God she's so fucking breedable
>>493826212But I love Azoos
>>493825103Bro stay away she's probably the type to get pregnant as a prank.
What the fuck?She's got me!
while the new artists are fine it's going to really bug me not having Hina drawn by Doremi anymore
>>493826074> Banned from being posted on xitterAre you trying to speedrun artist EOS?
>>493815723kill yourself
>>493825103https://youtu.be/LaAm_uweyXYKasumi is the student I am most unhappy about not having in my roster. I love her voice so much.
>>493824383It's not like it had a chance, the design were mostly good tho
>>493826297Yeah, time for dead and scatschizo hours since people are leaving...
>>493826436Akari is the scariest student...
plana SEX
Plana is sexier than AronaYes or no?
>another week of nothingI'm so bored, even worse since I'm a globalfag
Delayed mikahours today
>>493826070zoos looks the least ugly
Wow, the Argentinians are not happy and are all leaving in droves. They even started a petition to ban BA in Argentinia.
>>493826584This is the visage of an unrepentant terrorist.
Sensei...
>>493826653
>>493826526Ui when someone says rntr is not that bad
>students you would like to piss on>students you would like to get pissed by
>>493826770Can we at least keep all the big booties girls?
>>493822201https://exhentai.org/g/3052567/a3cce5f1cf/Akira my love.
Would you /bag/?
How about you piss off
>>493826974hoshinohina
https://x.com/BlueArchive/status/1825389125031059514Don't forget
>>493826673And you think that's bad? I play in both servers and already have enough for 2 sparks in my JP account and there's not even a good banner for the next few weeks
I get that they’re welfares but could they try to make them a bit stronger
piss students
>>493827012No. Not even as a joke. Not even as entertaining the idea. Not even if she was the last woman alive.I fucking hate her for what she put everyone trough.
Students for this feel?
My Gehenna mats are quite low after the recent Gehenna arc. Akari may have to wait...
>piss hours
So Utaha artist made these and took the leading role in the art department...your thoughts?
Kiss your students
Ibupee
>>493827165Unironically Mika
>>493827218soulless
Nah, xer will switch to another flavor of concernpostinglike >>493826684Don't forget 3dpd, AI, shilling e-celeb, that sea's Noa-Yuuka dogpic, cuckposting, and also samefagging his own posts
>>493827021How about you piss on yourself?>>493827159Good enough of a reason.
pisscore
gold shower is a shit fetish
>>493827165>Dude I'm like so quirky lmao
>>493827184
>>493827218you already posted this
>>493827218Honestly? BING BING BING BING BING BING BING BING BING
>>493827271Nah, Mika can't stand loneliness
Why the fuck did this thread take such a deep nosedive all of a sudden we were doing fine
Seiaposting used to be believable.
>>493827218Dread
>>493827165i'm in this picture and I do not like it
>>493827409Because you are here, metaposting
>>493827409Not enough Kei.
say bing
>>493827370NOOOOOOOO
Cherino is 9 years old
>>493827218>Thoughts?Steaks have risen once more.
>>493827489I was here before too, that's how I know we were doing fine
>>493827519Out of 100
can hiyori beat darth vader?
that's right get bing'd idiots
Onsen Cherino alt was pretty shit, all things considered.Maybe qipao Cherino will set things right.
>>493827519Does this look 9 to you?
Gookakobros?
>>493827218I like them, do people not?
>>493827370Jamiibo...
>>493827278>that sea's Noa-Yuuka dogpicThere is nothing wrong with this picture, the artist said it was implying nothing and people just overreacted-
>>493827741she is a uppity genuiune cutie bitch
You guys wouldn't understand. I want to fuck Fuuka so much
>>493827409Everything changed when the Fire Nation attacked.
>>493827667she would be one of the most popular students with a horde of apologists if they didn't ruin her with the stupid mustache
>>493827218i like themnmgk is my favorite so far
Post nemugaki ass
>>493827562Thread is absolutely doing fine, your sudden bitching is what lowers it
>>493827519I know you're trying to make me like cherino, tomoe, but I can't get myself to like the unironic commie even if her cunny is tighter than sex.
What are the odds that John Nexon will rehire the traitors? I only care about the chibi designers.
>>493827882The mustache is fine for the base + qipao version.It's just the Onsen looking super shit for some reason.
>>493827953
Why everyone wants to fuck Kei???? Shes fucking satan
>>493827165Eimi
>>493827991... and here comes the damage control...
>>493827741i still hate her though she's so fucking annoying and not even in the cute way like yuukaako a SHIT
>>493827741>Someone screencapped my comment and used it as twitter contentI am radicalized now.
>>493828041sniiiiiiiiifffffffff
>>493827741Remember to report this shitskin nigger for hateful conduct on twitter anytime his trash is posted on /bag/.
>>493828063i am not satan
>>493828156>SomeoneThat's our migga poster
>>493828185Kei sex
>>493828063
>>493828179Reminds me of when /bag/ said the scatschizo would go to jail
Hello guys, one question, why is there so much futa art of this girl from Project KV? Apparently it became a meme to draw her with a huge dick and I don't know why.
i want to use Fubuki's hair ball thing as soccer balls
>>493828179>Twitter shitNot your personal army, dude. Hang yourself alongside the scat monkey ASAP, please.
Kei should sit on my face
steaks??????
>>493828179based
>>493825784fyi this is AI, I'm not talking about plana, the drawing is made by ai
>>493828104>has no interest in sexNo...
>>493828353THAT'S NOT STEAK THAT'S A SQUID.HIYORI YOU LYING FUCK.I'M GONNA IMPREGNATE YOU.
>>493827836no dedicationhiyori picks up fucking icecream that fell in the sand
I wanna chug down all of Ibuki's piiiiss!
>>493828247
No more steaks, young lady.
>>493828448Ikayaki is japanese for steak on a stick, the localization team has your back
post more bareback shots of students
https://x.com/En_BlueArchive/status/1832243588060856462https://x.com/En_BlueArchive/status/1832243588060856462https://x.com/En_BlueArchive/status/1832243588060856462
>>493828263
There's a girl at work who wears stockings, sits at her desk and plays with her shoes all day. Her desk is visible from mine. She has these tiny feet and just ah fuck I'm going to die.
>>493828121what damage control? anyway keep bitching. I'm sure it will improve the situation you are concerned about
>>493828562
I NEED Niya
>>493828471
>>493828560Are you fucking with me?
I rather like the fan headcanon idea of Kei being a kuudere Aris, but they'd need to do more that just give her red eyes if we ever get her playable
>>493828678Same here bro
>>493828647I wanna touch
>>493828179someone here runs that account, i know who it is but i wont tell who
>>493828678>not fatwtf that isn't me
>>493828764why would I lie? you can trust me I write summaries on /bag/
Can I change my studentwife?
>>493827874>>493828143Ako might call you harsh words, and generally complain about everything; but in the end she likes you enough to make her own chocolate for you on valentines, and trusts you enough to confine her problems she experiences day to day to you.Unlike a certain Goosling-core girl who just gave you a chocolate shield as an afterthought, and didn't even think of you before handing it over to you.
>>493828179"Oh nooo other sites are collecting screenshots of our autistic threads"Never understood why newfags care so much about this ngl they're literally just those fish that feed on the dead skin of your feet
( ≖‿≖)‿0Taberu?
>>493828527Literally built for childbearing
>>493828729I wanna touch Plana too
>>493828915> I write summariesYOU CALLED MY STUDENTWIFE A WHORE!
just read a doujin sensei rape a studenti though this wasn't possible? was it bullshit all along?
>>493828965Ong frfr? Iykyk? Ngl?
>>493828923"change" is a strong word.You can have multiple, unless you're planning a divorce.
>>493828317sword=penisAlso online artists love trends
Erm?
Eto?
/bag/ still loves peebuki, right?
thread is mid frfrmissing the rizzledizzle
Where are the images?
https://litter.catbox.moe/zv6q8d.jpg
>BA had a bunch of pregnancy art>KV had a bunch of futa artNo wonder it died so soon
>>493828965ngl pretty cringe no cap
> Rokita Hoshino doujin is translatedDamn.
I miss my niece
>>493829245I consented... 40 pyros is 40 pyros
>>493828965You're the one reeking of newfaggotry, faggot
>>493829245this dog learned from shizuko 100%
I miss when Arisu Archive just posted cute memes instead of schizo posting...
>>493828965either newfags or schizo samefagging. No one actually fell for scatschizo's ragebait e-celeb posting
https://litter.catbox.moe/f3kst6.png
Is someone using a bot to keep this thread alive? The fuck is going on?
>>493829578> invertedButt why.
>>493829640if by 'bot' you mean 'student pussy' then yes, you are correct
sore wa sorekore wa kore
Nigger
BA needs more lizard girls
>>493829841>Momoka>Renge>Haruna>KasumiWho else?
say it
bada bing
>>493829841Does Renge count?
>>493829640alice working overtime
>>493829841hear me out: dual fat tails
>>493829986>>493829986>>493829986
>>493829841>snake eyes>lizard tongue>occasional sheddingwould be kino
>>493829683same reason theres pubes: kino
>>493827271Wdym MikaDid you see the damage her tantrum caused while Sensei and Squad were on a top secret mission?
>ugly shit therefore kino
Reminder to wish Nor a happy birthday
>>493827165ScPD in women tends to be expressed a bit differently than in most men. Chise unironically would be the closest match I think.