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Dead game
Second for Enchantress
>>494366929Mama!
nya won the 2v2
I love granblue fantasy versus rising.me on the right btw.
>>494367871It would've been fun to watchIF DAMASCUS WASN'T A DBFAGGOT
Still maining Nier!
>all these participants>nobody willing to stream our sidegeimu
>>494363165>>494364862>>494365054>>494365693>>494366390This is true btw, also hence why I managed to improve and constantly do easily. No hidden retarded faggot bullshit or faggot knowledge checks, this is why fighting game tards hate it, it's like trannies praising open world MMO PvPs, they can't have a massive unfair advantage over other players here so they hate it.Everyone who disagrees with me is the king of faggots btw.
>>494368319based
>>494365054>there's a very specific thing you can point out as to why you lost.yeah I tried to press a button and then I died for it
Remember all of the people who were filtered because they couldn't beat up someone simply downbacking because they need their canned 50/50 high low garbage.
>>494367871but can nyou win the beyblade tournament
>>494364862>>494365054>It's super simple so there's no bullshit to blame.I know people say this a lot when defending "simple" games. And maybe some people really do have more fun with "simple" games for that reason. But I'm the opposite. Simple games come down to straight RPS more often because there are fewer options that players can use to differentiate themselves.When I get smacked by someone who's obviously better than me in +R/Xrd, I don't get mad at all. It's easy to point to specific things that made him better. He had better movement, better execution, deeper knowledge of specific interactions, and that's why he won. And that's it. I don't get mad at people who are better than me; in fact I respect their skill and knowledge of the game.In a simpler game like Rising, it FEELS like I'm losing more often because of random RPS. Regardless of how true that is, I can't force myself to stop feeling that way, and it does make the game less fun. Why did he choose to mash there? Well, he just did. Why did he choose to hard bait my DP? Well, he just did. There's less "damn the way he used airdashing and RC momentum to weave in and out of those projectiles was so sick" and more "yep, he sure did guess right there on wakeup, damn what a great guess".Now I'm not stupid enough to say that Rising is a "random" game. Obviously it has a hierarchy of skill like any other game and the better players consistently win more often over worse players. But I still get more frustrated at it than games that have objectively more "bullshit", for the reasons I described.
>>494368893It's easy to think that you have amazing defense when throws don't fucking work
>>494369181this post reads like you need key jangling to obfuscate the randomness in fighting games
>there's just something about how this game plays that is infuriatingI know what you mean. Am I crazy or his Rising much "heavier" than other modern FGs? Nothing feels snappy, like there's a built 3f-4f of input delay that you can't reduce no matter what.
>>494369181>Simple games come down to straight RPS more often because there are fewer options that players can use to differentiate themselves.Complex fighting games are the exact same you fucking buffoon.>NOOOO WHY DID HE MASH THEREBecause maybe he noticed you're a tard who doesn't oki and tries jank shit instead? Why the fuck wouldn't he mash? If anything you should've fucked him over for it.
>>494369526Reading comprehension, retard:>”Now I'm not stupid enough to say that Rising is a "random" game.”No fighting game is actually “random”. But some are more volatile than others. And simpler games tend to paradoxically be more volatile than “bullshit” games, because of the lack of options.The Strive devs said their GOAL was to make Strive more volatile, because they didn’t like how easy it was for better players to 10-0 weaker players in Xrd. And they accomplished this by simplifying and restricting the mechanics.
Welp that's enough rising for this month, back to a hopefully permanent break
>>494369181don't worry, i agree with you anonit's also reflected in the playercount as it slowly bleeds week by weeksomething is making people quit
https://www.twitch.tv/tpk_livemore people are watching beyblade than any non sf6 game.
>>494369363filtered
>>494370706>first thing i see is a tranny with painted nailslol
>>494369363Shimmy them retard.
>>494370706>BaybladeBased>Tranny on stageHow are these creatures everywhere?
Zamn, my neutral is kinda fire...
I cant believe that bea is basically still unnerfd.
>why is this game frustr-https://twitter.com/zawapush/status/1834598160603476378
>>494372041orchestrated infiltrations.
>>494373215the frame that makes me nut and blows up my eardrums
>>494373215>15 seconds on the clockboth of them should have lost
>>494373215>Sexo nigger getting a taste of his own medsNothing wrong here.
why did they make the game this bad, man
Is Usagi the only luci player at UFA?
>>494373721They fell for the simple game = more players meme
>>494374013man.SF2 is simple. karnovs is simple. kof98 is simple.this is something entirely else.
>>494374398Yeah, I was mainly referring to Versus. Rising is what happens when you just toss more mechanics into a simple game without increasing the skill floor.
>>494374398>SF2 is simpleIt's more complicated than Rising by a significant amounthttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L9tKvKmJD5Q
>>>>>clayton lurks in these threadsoh hell nah
>>494375287This general was always /fgg/-lite
>"Man, the opening to Ladiva's theme sounds like that one journey song that goes 'some day love will find you'">Takes me a few seconds to realize that is probably completely intentionalI might be a little retarded.
>>494369363Mash to tech is retarded but i hate the amount of throw invul frames on wake up even more
>>494369363then why do you keep losing
Why are we so dead?
>>494378274bad game syndrome
>>494378274its a horribly marketed game that purely exists to sell gacha item codes and serve as an ad for a dying mobile game
>>494378274>2B>Vane>No Ilsa
>>494378492gbf is dying?
>>494378681Yes, thankfully, 2023 was one of their worst years.
>>494378274Sensitive community that can't take losses well.
>>494378274>all fours>dead gameKino.
>>494379817ONE of their worst years?In other words, they have already had worse years and they managed to survive.
>>494378274Damn, guess I gotta move onto Slime Fighter 6, bros...
dont worry gbf will shutdown and we will get an mmo granblue fantasy super relink with lots of support and it will be HUGELY popular worldwide
>>494381262>Slime Fighter 6LMAO
I ain't touching Relink
>>494376119/gbvs/ doesn't jack off SFV and UMvC3
I can't run Relink...
>>494381682few days ago someone said only hours in sfv and t7 count for playing fighting games
>>494381682>SFV and UMvC3I don't visit /fgg/ but it sounds like they have superb taste.
>>494381682>SFV and UMvC3I don't visit /fgg/ but it sounds like they have dogshit taste.
>>494381836Which is true, faggot.
Guys, when this game dies, what fightan should I play next? Sell me on my next fightan funtime.
>>494382567First and last fighting game I'll ever play.
Chun-Jitta in Rising when?
I don't want to go back to strive
>>494382567none
>>494382567Personally I would've liked to play UNI2 but it's even more dead in EU, so I guess I'll just quit fighting games until something new comes out.
>>494382567Blazblue.
>>494382567Don't think I'll play anything elseMaybe xrd and cf a bit again but I don't really want to learn those games
>>494382567City of the Wolves looks promising.
>>494383541>City of the Wolves looks promising.
>>494381836It sounds retarded until you realize they're a hell of a lot better than everything that has released since FighterZ. Dragon Ball FighterZ, Granblue Fantasy Versus, King of Fighters XV, Guilty Gear Strive, Melty Blood Type Lumina, Street Fighter VI, Granblue Rising, Under Night 2, Tekken 8, 2XK0 - all of them are GARBAGE. SFV on the other hand has been objectively a good fighting game since season 3, but a lot of players that were burned by paying full MSRP on season one held a very justifiable grudge against the game. I only gave the game a second chance after Championship Edition mainly for Seth tiddies, but was genuinely impressed by how much the game had improved over the years.
Why the fuck does it take 20~ seconds for the rematch button to appear? I thought that Cygames already fixed that shit.
>>494384551today the server is slower than usualenjoy the cuck symbol on the top left
>>494378274all they had to do was add rollback and crossplay to vanillabut they had to 66L the game and butcher the most perfect strike/throw/overhead system i have seenstill the only fighting game im playing though and i h(c)ope it will get better but it probably wontat this point my only plea is that they nerf bc so that you get a punish on a evadeplease
>>494384693It's already taking forever to find a match and now I have people leaving because they think that I'm not going to rematch or some shit.I really hate this game sometimes.
>>494384891>at this point my only plea is that they nerf bc so that you get a punish on a evade>pleaseThat's the next "do this or this game instantly dies" change they have to do
>>494384891>all they had to do was add rollback and crossplay to vanillaYeah if they wanted a dead game
>>494384891sorry but I would've never played the original iteration of the game, it looks extremely boring and nichewhat this game failed mostly is balance and update schedulespeople would've kept with it if, for example, we got all these changes together in april instead of that shitty mini-patch we gotand honestly, considering nier's powerlevel, april was already too late
>>494384693>enjoy the cuck symbol on the top leftIsn't it a womb tattoo?
>>494384891>at this point my only plea is that they [buff belial even more]
>>494383541GBVSR is the only current game that really clicks with me, but this one seems promising.
>>494385020if they just made vanilla with rollback the game would have gotten the same amount of players at the start at least, since people for the longest time just begged for the original to just get rollback and thats it. i doubt anybody bought rising because they saw dash normals or raging strike.although we can't know how it would have performed player retention wise in comparison to what we got, but i dont see any reason why it would do worse than what we have right now.
>>494385965>i doubt anybody bought rising because they saw dash normals or raging strike.I tried this game because I saw a post on /v/ mentioning it was free when it released. I was bored and gave it a try and enjoyed it because it was simple to understand
Anybody up for some games? EU/EC
I got shat on during launch month for saying this, and I'll probably get shat on again, but I'm going to say it anyway:Granblue should've been a reskinned Blazblue.
>>494386837I'm in the lobby if you want to play
>>494388179Open wide cause im about to shit in your mouth even harder.
>>494388179go play blazblue if you want to play blazblue faggot
>>494388232>>494388868Lottery time.
>>494388179mite b cool
I hope Lowain gets fucking nerfedStupid fucking character
66L should be -2 on hit but be special cancellable.
>>494388179I'm gyonna fyart in your myouth this tyime
>>494389738sorry, a lowain player rated him as bottom 3 on twitter recently so he's not even good
>>494389173I think it would be. The funniest thing though, is that everyone on launch was like "Oh, so you want a dead game?".Guess in the end, I got the last laugh after all.
>>494390090No. Time to face the facts, this game is simply bad. No one here, me included, would be playing this game if it wasn't so fucking gorgeous.
>>494384169samsho 2019 clears, but SNK wants it dead.
>>494391542*fyart in your myouth*
>>494390238I don't give a shitHPA shouldn't recover a BPHis shit should disappear when he gets hit
dont leave me bros
I'm EU, where will I go if GBV dies?
>>494391904tell me I'm the best and I won't leave
Proper anime fighters sell copies but don't have lasting populations outside of the dedicated fanbase. Strive only got popular by removing a ton of the anime bullshit. All the people saying XRD rollback would kill it were wrong. MBTL is the only recent anime game, it had a ton of players and dropped to nothing because people don't want to deal with crazy movement. You'll notice even the "crazy" games don't put that in - just look at DNF Duel and 2XKO. The HxH fighter might be able to live on IP power if 8ing don't cuck it up like they did DNF.
>>494392090>MBTLthis one died because the netcode was atrocious at launch and wasn't fixed in time
>>494392045you are the very best.
>>494392090>it had a ton of players and dropped to nothing because people don't want to deal with crazy movementthat's some weird historical revisionism
>>494392359
>get hit by random blue shit jumpscare moves because screen freeze fucks with my inputsCool feature, I'm glad that more fighting games are copying street fighter 6 and freezing the screen so your inputs get fucked so your opponent can get an ego boost about their totally sick NEUCH
>>494392539that's not how that works, you just suck and are blaming things you don't understand
>>494360597Sorry for the late reply, I was busy eating smegma butter.I understand, it's obvious people will get upset when you drastically change game philosophy like that.However, I will argue that it's kinda weird for a DB game to have low power level. Though I realize it's not a compelling argument; if we were to apply the same logic to Granblue, Mom should IK everyone.To go on a bit of a tangent, I wish people would be more honest and admit they're fans of certain franchises, not the genre. In this case, people are fans of MVC, not FGC/Tagfighter fans. I really hate when people go ''Oh man I love fghting games!'' when they love MvC and SF, but anything beyond that gets criticzed to hell and back for the same things they praise in the aforementioned games.I will watch some matches from when DBFZ was fresh and compare to how it is now
>>494392539Literally has not happened to me in 200+ hours of playing.
>>494392090>MBTLFucked launchBland ass visualsBland charactersBland stagesFrench Bread pitched an FGO fighter and got told to make another Melty, but simpler. All for another dog shit VN>DNF DuelNo fucking support or any indication of such for months. Took 6 months for them to announce a season pass and two years to finish. The gameplay was also complete fucking garbage. Fullscreen specials, 20yr combos, dog shit comeback mechanic, shit metre mechanic, no fucking movement, no burst and absolutely abhorrent defensive options. It also doesn't help that the "characters" weren't actually characters, just class templates from DFO.>2XKusoIt's tagshit, why're you surprised?
>>494382567I don't plan on picking up any other fighting games after this one, i'm a spic so my friends are planning to jump to city of the wolves when it comes around
>>494393331basado
>>494392251people put up with strive's horrible online.>>494392474the story is true of every single anime game. People don't say that outright, it's always some random other thing, but any game with good air movement drops to sub 200 players. That's the common factor. The only ones that don't are MVC and DBFZ which have insane IP strength behind them. This goes back 20+ years. SF and KoF and MK are the popular 2D games where GG and MB are ignored.Uni beats out blazblue at any event, any online tournament, any offline tournament. Compared to BB, MB, older GG games, people flock to undernight, even though it's a 40 dollar balance/netcode patch to an old game with basically 0 new content. The social media drives to get people to play that game have exceeded basically all others. Why? Because they took out the air movement.
>>494393479Strive's online was fine in game, it was just everything outside of that being bad.Melty Blood's online wasn't functional at launch and you had to watch the intro so the match wasn't constatntly rollbacking. This wasn't even a PC only issue, this was on both platforms.Did you even play Melty Blood on release?
>>494393479>strive's horrible online.The fuck are you smoking? I assume you're talking about the lobbies and not the actual matches, right?
>>494393198>MBTLpeak player count is almost double undernight yet fell off like a rock. If the visuals and characters and stages were actually that bad(they aren't) nobody would have bought it in the first place.>DNF/2xkodeveloper trends still remove movement. "Tagshit" like mvc had crazy movement and that's the feel they are chasing, yet that factor is gone to appeal to more casual audiences.
>>494393987>If the visuals and characters and stages were actually that bad(they aren't) nobody would have bought it in the first place.MBTL came out while the fighting games were at a peak population, it's the same thing with DNF. It was riding off of the high that Strive created. That's not actually a good argument.
I like games where patient play is a viable option
>>494369181I really can't comprehend this post on a fundamental levelWhen someone opens me in an anikuso fighter:>wow, you got me to block a touch, then you made me guess your canned mixup, i guess wrong on a literal coinflip now I lost 50% of my healthMeanwhile in Granblue you actually have to work to open people up, literally the first month of this gen was Strivebabies getting absolutely filtered because they couldn't open people up and crying incessantly about how downbacking was OP.>deeper knowledge of specific interactionsYou say deeper knowledge of specific interactions, I say learning an obscure gimmick that is easy to execute but hard to be dealt with. I don't see how that's a good thing.
>>494394198Nyes, those are the best.
>>494381673Why?Looks fun
>>494370159No, they accomplished it by having you die in 2 touches in Strive. That's why it has high damage and why they have never lowered the damage of the game.That's why tournaments run the game at ft3 to try and lower how volatile the actual game is to make it feel less random.
>>494393198>It also doesn't help that the "characters" weren't actually characters, just class templates from DFO.I kind of don't mind that, but it vastly depends on the game.
>>494393759I did and it was nowhere near as bad as people make it out to be. There were laggy shit players but most of my matches were fine. intro rollback issue is hardware related anyway, I get it with local people that I have otherwise great connections with and don't get it when playing cross country with people. >>494393791horribly optimized stages that fucked people's computers and forced tons of rollback, lobbies being dogshit and not connecting, rollbacks could remove the audio, dogshit matchmaking experience, connecting to server, massive load times before the match.Strive online, as a whole experience, was awful. The loading times for a strive match were longer than having to watch the intro to a melty match and nobody gives a shit. That's the kind of shit I mean. People will stare at the bird for 7 seconds but can't watch a 4 second long intro in melty which loads the match in 3 seconds.
>>494393987>peak player count is almost double undernight yet fell off like a rock. If the visuals and characters and stages were actually that bad(they aren't) nobody would have bought it in the first place.That was also back when everyone was high on copium about it being the "Strive killer". Also got that covid bonus. >developer trends still remove movement. "Tagshit" like mvc had crazy movement and that's the feel they are chasing, yet that factor is gone to appeal to more casual audiences.Because everyone is chasing the mythical "casual audience" without doing anything to entice them. MvC was carried by it's name-brand and Capcom cocksuckers, every other tagshit game dies instantly for a reason.
>>494394653>I did and it was nowhere near as bad as people make it out to be.lol>intro rollback issue is hardware related anywayno it wasn'tyou didn't play on release, shut the fuck up
>>494394163there was massive hype leading up to the release in spite of all the visuals being what they are and people who talked about "no drip" got clowned on by a much bigger crowd. You can make the argument about them buying DNF and then finding the gameplay bad and quitting, but saying that people stopped playing melty because of the visuals when that part was being discussed weeks before the game came out doesn't make sense. If a game has such shit visuals why buy it? You KNOW it looks like that.
>>494382567When grub dies I'm fucking off from this genre, picking up FGs is unironically one of the biggest regrets of my gaming career.Imma become a single player casual or some shit
If fighting games suck what should I play?
>>494394198>I like games where patient play is a viable optionIsn't this one of them? Actually people will try random shit like walking towards you for 5 hours to bait throws
>>494394991palworld
>>494389738>runs away constantly>increases health and meter with his food shit>shoots smash bros- tier shit on screen, some of the best projectiles in the game (instant paralyzing laser which is meterless btw) and they act as summons too>his supers are both minigames that you can randomly lose, literally a test of your reactions during high tension matches>the character himself is an obnoxious douchebag cocksuckerHe was designed to be one of the most tilting characters on purpose. People that play him know exactly what they're doing by picking him.
>>494395068Palworld utterly MINDBROKE this general.
>>494394652It is genuinely terrible. Characters just end up saying general things to each, there's nothing personal about any of the fights. The only time I could see something like working is if you could customise/create characters and class templates for movesets.>>494394653I experienced none of that. Yet I clearly remember constant de-sync during Melty's launch, poor online quality, even against friends less than a mile away and a few crashes. Strive's online was a godsend in 2021.
>>494394763>Because everyone is chasing the mythical "casual audience"literally my point, yes.>you didn't play on release, shut the fuck upyou didn't play enough, clearly.
>>494395201They mindbroke our fucking servers
>>494394653>horribly optimized stages that fucked people's computers and forced tons of rollbackI never experienced this or even hear people complain about the in match rollback on release.>There were laggy shit players but most of my matches were fine. intro rollback issue is hardware related anywaylolOh, you are from a fantasy land of imaginary scenarios.Delusional.
>>494394327>strivebabies>strive player wins evo>every single "top level" rising player is a strive player or has never played a fighting game prior to gbvsr(Koujicoco,artorias)KEKKKAAAROOOOO
>>494394991Stealth kino.Pick up Thief Gold and Thief 2 Metal Age on GoG. Play through them a couple of times and then dive into the world of fan missions.>>494395298Oh, then yeah, I agree with you there. I want a new airdasher so fucking badly man.
>>494395521EVO was basically determined by who ran into the least Niers.No one is surprised that the first big tournament of a new game is unbalanced and a mess.
>>494392759>I will watch some matches from when DBFZ was fresh and compare to how it is nowBe warned, the game was kind of a mess on release. And Seasons 1 and 2 had their own issues. Personally, I think the game reached it's peak with Season 3 patch that added multiple different assists to choose from, that massively expanded team-building potential and saved several characters that were almost unplayable due to really bad/gimmicky assists.
>>494395407>I never experienced this or even hear people complain about the in match rollback on release.the forest stage and may's stage with the ships were awful back then and still are, to my knowledge.I've played thousands of matches and I'm sure the intro bug is hardware related which is why they don't know how to fix it despite repeatedly saying they did in patch notes.
>>494395521>or has never played a fighting game prior to gbvsr(Koujicoco,artorias)Really? That's impressive.
>>494395841>No one is surprised that the first big tournament of a new game is unbalanced and a mess.Does that even fit our top 6?I mean, when people talk about disaster tournament they say shit like 7 Leeroys at T7 top 8Our top 6 had a nice character spread, the worst that happened were a few upsets or shit like thatPeople meme Aarondamac being a strive player but he joined every gbvs tournament from launch until evo lol niggas was grinding the game
>>494395521if a simulation of EVO was ran over and over again, JPs would've clowned on the soive tranniesalso, I clowned on Artorias in ranked a few days ago
To any weak willed faggot who might be letting the doomposting get to them;We still have Vikala and Sandalphon to go, Sandalphon (ugh) is the most popular GBF character by far. Or at least he's supposed to be. rrat is also extremely popular, we'll see how they go. During S2 they'll probably announce shit too, that might breathe some much needed life onto us.This game still has a while to go.
>>494396339>if a simulation of EVO was ran over and over again, JPs would've clowned on the soive tranniesHoly cope. Gamera got fucked by NAGods.
>>494394653>horribly optimized stages that fucked people's computers and forced tons of rollbackRunning strive require very little power, the problem stem from people playing a literal toasters you could smoke some meats on, I've lost the count of how many time I've seen the rollback goes to shit everytime a big fat counter hit happened on, say, Neo New York, one of the most "computer intensive" stage in Strive.>lobbies being dogshit and not connectingI did not experience this, I will however give you the benefit of the doubt because I've talked to a lot of people who did experience lobbies issues and constantly see TO remaking lobbies in weeklies.>rollbacks could remove the audioFirst time I've heard of this, unless you're referring to how sometime rollback would do something fucky at a supposed round ender but the loser came back to life because the game didn't account for the hit that would have closed the round, and the music would suddenly cut off, that did happens but it was very, very rare.>dogshit matchmaking experienceI never used this so I cannot comment on this.>connecting to serverTrue, the game would send a shitton of requests back and forth between the client and the main data center in JP, causing the initial connection to server on the main menu to take fucking aeons and was fixed by a bored neckbeard in his basement, though that did get fixed. Amusingly enough we have a similar issue in Rising, JP players takes nanosecond to connect on the main menu while us lowly gaijin have to stare at our monitors for a good minute.>massive load times before the matchThat's a player related issue, once again blame people playing on toasters, not the game, loading times were fine.
>>494395841ok buddy lol. >>494396339jp has gotten cooked in every international tournament.
>>494395037>Isn't this one of them?More so than other fighting games right now yeah, but I would say it is more efficient to pick someone like Belial and just aggressively spam 66L rather than play the whiff punish game
>>494396709Yeah, they'll breathe life into the game for 3 weeks before we drop back to <500 players. And that's assuming Cygames doesn't go full retard and release a character or patch couple of days before or after another game gets an update.
>>494396778>That's a player related issue, once again blame people playing on toasters, not the game, loading times were fine.show me how fast you load into a strive match and I'll show you how fast I load into a melty match.
>>494396709yumes aren't gonna start playing for sandalright?right???
>>494397691They're already here playing Bubs, Seox and Lance
>>494397623>show me how fast you load into a strive match and I'll show you how fast I load into a melty match.I'm not gonna reinstall the fucking game for that, so you'll have to take my words for it but it took about between 5 and 10 seconds on average iirc. I would on occasion meet a faggot running the game on a voodoo 3 with a 25 years old hard drive, which would take "Sky Should Be High" to the fucking chorus and that's when I knew I'd be playing an underwater match.Since I can't provide evidence, I won't begrudge you for not believing me.
>>494396020It seems to be the first FG for a lot of people. Or at least the first one they try to get good at, myself included.
Here's your season 2 guest character, bro
>>494398085I think versus is a good entry into the genre. Nothing too retarded to wrap your head around, basic mechanics a lot of FG shares, most of the character archetypes achieving their goals easily enough that you can understand how they works simply enough, all of that will serve you well should you ever decide to get into a more complex or deeper FG.
>>494398341>v-tranny shitDon't you fags have entire board dedicated to this garbage?
>>494398341pagpagbro..
>>494398341Sorry, wrong pic
>>494398840this would be 2 based
>>494398341gold>>494398840mold
>>494398840Is Etna's mound still erupting?
>>494398341Based>>494398840Acidic
>>494398085it's my first fighting game too but I'm nowhere KojiCoco's level, really impressive he got that good this fast
>>494398891>>494399112t.ranny
>>494399307t.roon
>>494399246No doubt he's good, but if he can afford to travel to all these events, he can probably afford to have a coach get him up to speed. Watching the Sajam Slams really hammered home the value of having someone experienced give you 1-on-1 instruction.Or maybe he's just talented, or he grinded like madman.
>Ferry can do divekick into instant DP so you can't punish her landingAnd you niggers want her buffed. Fuck outta here.
>>494398685>>494398891>>494399112>>494399307>>494399592Great job guys. Now we just need a few kekypows and a few kekaroos for our morph into /gbfg/ to be complete
>>494399908you forgot to reply to the shitskin too bwo >>494398341
>>494399908Nah, we still need someone to whip up some BLACKED and futa aisloppa.
This is the first time in over a thousand matches that I played against someone who relied on BC so much that it actually mattered and they died for it.
>Of my my """buddies""" play like half the cast>Can only beat me with 2B>Insists that she's not top 5 and that she's balanced because she does "no damage" >Still fumes externally every time i just pick Ladiva and grab him constantly because he has no idea how to play neutral and keeps running into me with his automash-combosStarting to hate this nigga.
ASOKO JA
>>4944007522b players are BCcucks.
>>494399797you can roll her dp
>>494399797Really nigger.THAT is what you are complaining about.
>>494400760sounds like you're both shitters
>>494401969Not my fault 2B is auto wins neutral.
>replay stalk my jp versusia GOAT>see him doing a double ult tornado combo where both of them are links and the second one is somehow AFTER combo limitlol lmaoim not snitching on this bug
I haven't won a single grandmaster vs grandmaster battle, but I did win vs grandmasters as mastersI am a fraud
>>494402358Thanks for sharing this info with us.It would be a shame... if someone here DID snitch... nyehehehe...
>>494402358can you catbox a clip onegai desu
oh man, luci downplayers are not going to like my next webm
>>494402126how does she auto win neutral
https://www.twitch.tv/paragonfgchyello
Mom auto wins the neutral against my penis
>Whiffed grab>whiffed grab>whiffed grab SBAtournaments are something so great
>>494394985Respectable opinion, I dropped out of fightan after a while once I picked up DBFZ and thought it was soulless, and then MvCI was the one-two punch that totally took me out of modern fightan until a friend dragged me back in with Boober Tag.I ended up really liking this game, and the IP in general because it seems like a really fun fantasy story, but CyGames seems to want to kill it, so that sucks. Moment this game dies, I'm probably dipping unless a new fightan IP comes and steals my heart, because everything else in the pipe right now, aside from maybe Garou, is pure unsoul.
>>494402948Zero must be a coke snorter, the more I see him the more of a fucking crackhead he look like. Not even trying to talk shit about other people's look because, fuck I'm ugly, but jesus the man just look ill.
>>494403816how did this match get to 20 seconds remaining with nobody doing anything
>>494402358Why do people say "combo limit" in this game? Is it just what people call hitstun scaling in this game or is there actually a hard combo limit similar to KI?
>>494404095There is a hard limit.
>>494404095Why are you in the general for a game you never played.
>>494404239Game is so dead that you can't tell a new player from an unplayer. That's just sad.
>>494404095Yes, there's a hard limit and there's even a text pop-up saying "combo limit" once you hit the limit. It only starts counting once the opponent is airborne, so keeping the opponent grounded for as long as possible is the key for optimal combos. There is also increased pushback on every hit to prevent grounded infinites.
>>494404095specifically it's a juggle limit, it doesn't start until the character is launched. The game calls it combo limit. You can only do a specific number of attacks against an airborne opponent, regardless of the starter or how long the grounded chain was. Characters with restands break this because it takes them out of juggle state, so it's very much not hitstun scaling.
If I one and done you it's not because I wanna make you angry, it's because I have to go piss or take big fat fucking shit
>>494403674>I picked up DBFZ and thought it was soullesDamn, may I ask why? From the little I played DBFZ I thought it was ultra kino> but CyGames seems to want to kill it, so that suckIt's not malice, they're just THAT incompetent.
>>494404913Then tell me that so we can take a shit together.
>>494404041grorious nihongo gameplayguess they're the polar opposite of that ''i just need to play more patient'' meme
dishonest things in this game:low-hitting specialsgrounded fireballsIOH setupsarmored moves66H that gives a combo without counterhit2M that's plus on blockbelial 66M for some reasonsweeps that can low profilerestand ultimatemove that can punish BCmove that can punish 66Lthrow bait specialsdid i miss anything
>>494405162Metera...
>>494405423Ladiva fingers typed this post.
The new DBFZ patch made the game better. You niggers need to Git Gud and stop getting hit so much. It now follows the magic 3 touch rule like every other proper fighter.
>>494405523strike throw is honest
gonna go masturbate to brown lolis in summer dressesgood night
>>494406272b a s e d
>>494406272come back here and post a link you fuckhead
nyo...
>>494406954if the game was good or supported or well thought out or devs cared or popular we would get a new batch of items for the crane game every couple months
>>494406272based
Ain't gonna lie bros the game look a lot more fun when watching those S+ players on Paragon than the usual shitlist of top 8ers.
>>494403816>ah... surely Six was all out of BPs, that makes...>look closerWhat the fuck.I know they reduced his overall health but fuck.
>>494406272Unfathomably based I know this is a swimsuit but let's ignore that
Finally got it bros.
>>494407909rupiemaxxing bro...
>>494407776Io is not brown...
>>494408171What?
>>494407909paycuck...
>>494407178was the same the other day with the team battlesand I guess the reason is character varietytournaments are just top tiers and nothing elsehence why balancing your fucking game is important
Why is Djeeta so sex?
>>494408598I paid with rupees…
i'm saving my rupees in hopes of Vikala being released with a skin, if it ends up being in the BP I'll save for Sandalphon
>>494407909GIVE HER CAPE BACK CYJEWS
>>494409409Exactly.You were supposed to just hoard those until EoS
>>494410940The reason they didn't give gran and djeeta the caped skin is that it's too different from their base model (since they are older in those skins Gran is also taller)
>>494408171nyou see
>>494411608What the FUCKShe IS brown... Not like, Zoi brown but still.
>>494411608I came suddenly
>>494411608CARAMELLICCCCCCCCKKKKKKKKKKAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
Desu... Kill all the pedos...
Pitge
>>494409409It's free with creamapi
>>494413097>no other fighting game will ever have as much armpit kino as grub
Ah yes Paragon, where I get to watch two retards talking about random shit instead of sets between competitors. Love this weekly.
>>494407178Y-Yeah! THAT is why I -choose- to stay forever in S+h-haha...
ggs sheep anon. dont feel bad everybody gets scammed by it at least it doesn't lead to 60% anymore.
>>494414038thanks for playing, anonsee ya next time
>>494414038>>494414186I can crush both of you with my top tier. Smear you like paste
>Lucilius is le bad
>>494415267i aint afraid of no cat poster.
>>494415394Luci should lose a sword level when hit by BC or RS
>>494415394Literally no one said this.>>494415713No, fuck off.
https://youtu.be/SXcXrWC1j0U?t=312>5:12this is what you call footsies grubbers?
>>494415751Heh you should be scared Lucifag, 1.50 confirmed that any shithead can submit a nerf request.
>>494415751No one has said it this thread
>>494415935butthurt niertranny?
A5 percygawd
>>494415267mmmmmmm you could
put the b5 gran on paragon
>>494415786>gamera found a way to lose itholy shit
>>494394991VNs
>>494415786GAMERA AGAIN WITH THE FAR MEDIUM
>>494415786>watch the rest of the round>gamera puts rookies to 1 hp>still loseslmao all rookies did was sit and wait
>>494416129butthurt lucifaggot?
>>494415786https://youtu.be/SXcXrWC1j0U?t=420Don't worry bro Six gets revenge on him for disrespecting footsies later.
>>494417067touched a nerve
>>494417305no, touched the feedback button retard LMAO enjoy
>>494415786>6-15i thought kat was supposed to be mid...
>>494417694she is all mids and thats the problem..
>>494417694Kat is easily top 5 now
>>494417694>>494417897>>494417897she's getting the djeeta treatment and not allowing her H lunge to bounce on walls
leave her alone ryazo.
>See-Ox
synn didnt deserve this
>>494402832No, this is.
>>494403885too much gooning
>>494420186Alright, let's hear why this is a bad thing and why granblue with its brave counter and delay 2L is better
HARVESTED
(⁄ ⁄•⁄ω⁄•⁄ ⁄)
>>494420382Do you really need to have someone explain why a game that favors using throws fucking 5 times in a row is bad?It was only 5 because that's how much health he had left too.
>>494420186UhhhhhhhhhhBecause SF6 is ugly!
>>494420382No need to explain, S+5.
imma fwip
>>494420941>>494420734FT10
>>494420742This is a big part of the problem, yes.Also you quoted the wrong post.
>>494420979okay, japan lobby boat
>>494420742It truly is nasty to look at, isn't it
MY BYODY ON BYODY PAWADE
>>494420382that's like asking at an in-n-out why no one likes fries with burgers anymore
>>494420186So why isn't our game popular when we are basically playing the same game as slimers?
>>494420979fiiiiiineill just pretend im a spectator and not the one you challenged
>>494420979still waiting
coming to the lobby to watch the ft10
I hope so many people join the lobby to watch the FT10 that it's basically the spiderman pointing maymay
if you say you are a spectator, I'm just going to assume you are a dodger
>>494421540>>494420979>neither players are in the lyobbyEh?
cumming to the lobby with the FT10
we are waiting
>>494421174can i watch
>>494421712I'm here, I'm just pretending to be a spectator until he appears, then I'll fight him
>>494421792Oh shit I thought we were watching the stream
>>494421854How will you know when he's there?
>>494421903Because I know who it is
>>494420382>>494421370i dun get it
>>494420186>how does she auto wins neutral>no, this isi cant be the only one noticing the lack of coherence did you mean to reply to someone elseWHY IS NO ONE MENTIONING THIS
hurry the fuck up its 4AM here I wanna see this ft10 and go to bed
>>494421792>they are both in the lobby pretending to be "spectators"lol
>>494407679He has abel HP which is two touch range for high damage characters. He's a honest hardworking kot now.
>>494422247I was assuming everyone else just understood what the message was supposed to be replying to instead... I'm just going along with it>>494422298I think only one of them is here
>>494422143What in god's name was I made to watch
>>494422429Someone stream it I'm out for a game with my coworkers
>>494422620>made to
>skibidi armpits
>>494401372seems Garaitz is ITT
>>494422819Is it some kind of VR porn game for women?
IKIMONO MISETE KURERU
when will they kill these set play retard proof characters (grim zeta)? I thought they were nerfed this patch but they're even stronger for some reason. i might as well play uni at least i can bullshit them back.
>>494423116It makes about 20 times more than granblue and is the #2 grossing gacha, soon to be #1
man that was the definition of sheepslop
>>494422429i still dont know what post you were replying toplease quote it
>>494423498Well I'll be fucked.
>>494423715Im not that guyI just assumed everyone else knewI still dont
>Ah-knee-lah
Ferry is so fucking bad we had a mirror match of her in loser qf. Truly a terrible character.
>>494423498>>494422819>>494422143Will people finally become woke to the coomer female question?
>>494423953? anon the grocery stores have been stuffed full of smut for the last 40 years for women to buythe literature / book section is just smut for ladies
the ft10 is actually going down
>>494424015the mass media likes to pretend that women don't like porn
>>494424024my mom is going to kick your moms ass
>>494405035>Damn, may I ask why? From the little I played DBFZ I thought it was ultra kinoThought nearly the entire base cast was playing similar to one another, all my bigger favorites were DLC, no Mr. Satan, the arcade mode was using defense and offense bumps to artifically inflate the difficulty without fixing the retarded AI, and the story mode was a pretty poor OG Dragon Ball story that didn't go full Shin Budokai or even use the leverage of post-ToP to make more interesting interactions happen. I didn't even play online because I wasn't subscribed to PS+, but I'm sure I would've hated it. But I think the biggest thing that did it for me was the fact that I was a NEET making money solely through dog walking, spent the last $60 in my bank account on that piece of shit, and I felt so gypped and lied to that it was going to be Marvel 3-tier fun that it hurt me deep down in my soul. Immediately went out to get a job the next day, paid my way through school, turned my whole life around, now have an ME Bachelor's and a first-time homeowner because that game just wrecked me emotionally no other game had before, I hated it that much.And now Daima's coming out and between that and Super Hero, I made the right decision to drop out of Dragon Ball on the high note of Super Broly.Posting more Korwa.
one of the players is "no there for the ft10" but we all know thats a lie based on >>494421854
>>494424659but im that guy>>494421853
who could it be...?
>>494425083Lust provoking chibis
>>494425083Don't go near(nier) that Nier. She's a delinquent.
It's not fair that the NA Ferry rep is a fat homosexual obese gay nigger furry negro.It should have been /our/ Ferry..I bet he's cute.
>>494425702I'm fat and mexican
People really slept on Djeeta's 5U
>>494425245every cab will break...
>>494425880das gawdlike
>>494426259not in the kizzington way, i have a bad thyroid because of the asthma
>join lobby to watch ft10>it's 3 separate pairs playing each otherwhich one wins the argument?
>>494426482it's ragger vs no there for the ft10i don't know who is on what side though
that was such a cool chang combo
>>494426339i didn't know thyroid caused mexican, sorry for you kizzington
>>494426835no, i got the thyroid problem because of the asthma which was caused by my homo sexual activities. i'm pretty lucky to be honest, it's either asthma or hiv, and i got the asthma
>>494426937>aused by my homo sexual activities. i'm pretty lucky to be honest, it's either asthma or hiv, and i got the asthmaBelial player...
>>494426560we were just playing normally. The FT10 didn't happen
>>494427435that means you lost
ggs lyobbyif you are bored and open to it watch https://asianwiki.com/Love_Next_Door it's rly good
>>494426937grimnig...
imma uuhhhhhhhh fwip
Fwip?
>>494424362DamnI'm glad you're in a better place anon. I'm hoping things work out for me soon and let me leave NEETdom too.
>>494428508To this day I don't feel a shred of sympathy toward zatofags.
>>494427743god i hate how gooks look so much. chinks and japs are ok, but looking at a gook makes me want to punch their face
Damn. Ferry is just so unviable and unplayable. That's why she's in grand finals right now.
>>494429142Beppo, maul his balls.
Maybe Cygames was onto something with the one-sided domination thingAlso you guys should really watch Paragon, sets have been great.
>>494425880You're literally me
>>494429142I've been saying Yuel got hit much harder. Ferry's compensation buffs were actually really good for her in contrast to Yuel. Hell, even Vane might still be worse than Ferry.
>>494425880>>494429304Can you tell your friends to stop sending me scam mails? It's getting tiresome.
>>494429446The only scam my friends deliver is playing Narmaya
that morbidly obese homosexual nigga is going to engorge himself on 50 smackaroos worth of kizzingers at this rate.
>>494426937>actual fags in my general
>>494429446Those are indians, broBrown skin but mexicans know how to use toilets
>>494429802He's going to reward himself by going to a furry bugchasing orgy after
>>494429778>>494429848Fair enough, lads.
>Ferry is badYou truly cannot trust setplay degenerates, ever.
Give me your shit takes anon, did Saltz just sucked ass or have people simply slept on Ferry?
>>494430754They weren't jumping for whatever reasonSaltz started jumping, he got to actually play the game
ATASHI NO
OUGI
Ferry issa bottom tier
>>494430754some players in masters and grandmaster get the notion that they have to play "honest" to be good so they try to play ground based footsies sometimes acting like they got hands when in fact playing like a gorilla is what runs a train on ferry the most
The fat negro jobbed.I don't know if I should be happy because he lost or sad because Ferry lost.Either way, I'm gooning to Ferry.
ggs sieg-anon(formerly nier-anon). surely fkhr will buff her in the upcoming patch.
Get adapted on. Better player, shoto supremacy, etc.
Sieg's feed and seed (formerly Nier's)
>>494431424ggsno patch needed...i will pay for my sins
Today, I will install
>>494431571desu why dont toes count?
>>494431790>>494431750>>494431571Why don't you faggots play in the tournament?
>>494431940I do when I don't have anything else to do on the weekend?
>>494431940when did the TO get so mean
>>494398341i will now play granblue fantasy versus..........................................................rising
>>494432091
>>494431940
jwong looks like hes having so much fun on mahvel 2
>>494431940tournaments suck, im not stressing over trying to beat a minigame fraud character for my bracket life.
>>494426937>you can contract asthma from buttstuffwtf public education didn't tell me this
>>494432251jwong looks like a pig
>get invited to do stuff with friends>decline because some of my friends' friends don't like me>friend doesn't understand and insists i go>i leave them on readwhat character do I play for this feel?
>>494432290>stressing over a tournament where half the commentary is the TO saying "scammed"
>>494432436beelzebub
>>494432437its accurate commentary.
I will join if it is a Kot tournament next time instead of Golshi
>>494432436Zooey
>>494431940ft10 ? ? ?
This is someone's Grand Bruiser.
>>494432693>>494272397
>>494432861>>494272747anus status?
>>494431940some of us have this thing called a job
Post the cag creampie one again
>>494432948Yeah, lots of Narmaya players do but they're still in the tourney
FT10 me right nowWhoever cums first loses
>>494433157Make the lobby I never cum.
it's a trick, he's saying he won't come
>>494433157
>>494431940I'm just not interested man, that's all there is to it.
>>494431940I don't have anything to say but Iwanted to reply too
>>494433256
FT10 me delinquent Nier. I need to correct you
>>494433997how did bubs scam his way down there
>>494433997bubs bro.. stop pretending like bubs divekick isnt a scam
>>494433997You can move uno and bubs up 2-3 rows.
>>494432353I'm convinced he gets off to it like those doujin where the fat ugly bastard "BUHI" and shit, these YT thumbnails have to be on fucking purpose.
>>494423113https://www.twitch.tv/videos/2250361034?t=3h21m17shahaha
>>494434212What's wrong with that? I'm fat too and self-inserting as the fat bastard gives me joy.
>>494415786Remove the run button
>>494433997
zoi is a fraud character
>>494434905In what world is percival more scam than narmaya
>>494435069narmaya cant light the floor on fire
>>494435069command grab + dummy low from slide + flame carpet + 214U is lmao + his DP is better + fH
>>494433997being strong =/= being a scammerBelial, Siegfried and Lucilius are strong but aren't scammers
>>494435147command grab = automatic giga scammer, so belial is correct
>>494435102>>494435142Narmaya ultimate crescent is 500 times more scam than whatever baby shit percy has
I really enjoy Granblue Fantasy Versus......................................................................................... Rising.
>>494435209just hit her out of it
>>494435209issa reactable
>>494435147>>494435147>level 5 faa>not scamfaa downplayer..
>>494434905yool stays, she literally cannot use her scam right now
As usual, the rules of the general apply. Female character = downplayMale character = upplay
>>494435147air stall = automatic giga scammer, so siegfried is correct
>>494434905zoi propaganda
>>494435426unreactable ogerhead, plus on block stun dippy, flip is a reversal, she sucks but she still has scammer cheese
>>494435515ok homonigger. just because you failed at being a successful hetero doesn't mean you have to be mad at other normal people
>>494435657FT10. Homos run this general, retard.
>>494435530yes, what about it?
>>494435581can't use in current patch, not plus and can't use in current patch, can't use in current patch. she stays
>>494435715can i watch?
>>494435727Zoi cures racism.
>>494435792sure, a watching cuck is fitting for a homo vs hetero battle
>>494435905thank you can one of you please play metera
How do I zoom in in the open lobby?
>>494435985move your chair closer to the screen dummy
>>494435985l1 or l2 + stick on controller.dunno for pc
>fujos and homos ruined gbf>now fujos and homos are running risingpoetry
>>494436106thanks
>>494435772>can't use in current patchit was literally added this patch and you can very much use it>not plusyuel players have been saying this since the game launched and you've always been wrong, this move has worked like this since she was released in vanilla>can't useyes you can>can't usebro just press the fucking buttoni know your character was nerfed but how are you so fucking stupid
>>494436370All I'm seeing is a black screen on this webm?
>>494436370nice vanilla video idiot
What characters do girls (female) play
>>494436879bubs lancelot and siegfried apparently
>>494436916>all long hairNorwood bros...
>>494436370Can you spot dodge that, my friend plays Yuel and I've been doing it and it's been working but I don't know if it's real
>>494437234if it's early enough you'll get a punish but she recovers fast so if you are late she can punish you. all depends on the timing.
>>494437851
>>494437851Guess we know why the lobby is pregnant now..
>gets out-ranged by half the cast>gets blown up at close range>gets out-zoned easily. Can't win fireball wars>light dragon is stuffed by flavor of the month EX pillar>heavy dragon gets stuffed by full screen moves because it takes an entire year to start up>all dragon specials are easily dodged through for full combo>oki that flatout loses to brave counter>speaking of which, damage is so low that the opponent gets to use all three brave stocks against her>one of the higher execution characters because negative edge is required for squeezing out what little corner damage you can get>cutest character in the game10/10 still main her
>>494438108Zoi!
>>494437851i like to pretend that the referee NPC has to deal with the bodily fluids and broken stuff after hours
>>494438613bob the seat sweeper
i only jack off in the lobby cave
I only jack off
>>494440056i too never cum
What do you think the patch is supposed to entail? Just the next battle pass, or do you think there will be some minor balance tweaks? I know the big patch isn't until October but we could see something like Nier's emergency nerfs from January for Belial
>>494444908nothing, it's just bug fixes
>>494382567I'll probably still play this game even when the player numbers fall into the double digitsIf it becomes outright impossible to get games then I guess I'll play more SF6. I'm not a big SF6 fan but it's at least sometimes fun
>>494437851there was a video I saw where someone came on a bombergirl cabinet in an arcade
>>494394991There are more than half a million DOOM levels uploaded to the idgames archive alone. Get to it
>>494424362>no Mr. SatanTo be perfectly fair, this isn't a Budokai Tenkaichi kind of game that's willing to give every character flight regardless of canon or make up 90% of some background character's moveset so they can be in, DBFZ tries to stay close to canon. I genuinely don't know how Mr. Satan would work in that game. I used to get into arguments with a friend about whether Roshi was possible since he couldn't fly; I argued they could give him a new movement mechanic and that's ultimately what they did, but even if you went the Lowain route of this being a movie portrayal of Mr. Satan or some other non-canon interpretation, I don't know how you'd make his joke character status work. Maybe make him the Gold War Machine of the game where he no-sells all the attacks (hyper armor) but sends opponents flying with attacks that look weak and have bad frame data? I think it would be hard to find a balance though if they went that route
>>494445013>"Fixed a bug where Ferry's f.M, 2.M, 5H, 2H, and 2U had a hitbox"
>>494420186Watching this makes me glad brave counter is worth a damn in this game. If Rashid tried to drive reversal any of those meaties it would have been blocked, leaving him minus enough to lose his entire health bar from the ensuing punish
>>494420186why are throw loops still a thing in sf
>>494420186We're now in our third fucking game of Oki Fighter. Add grab invincibility on wake up and be done with this grab loop bullshit. Telling people to "Take the throw" is not the answer to addressing grab loops when oki is already strong enough without factoring in grabs.
>>494441932that's a pig
>>494447098MASSIVE TEETH
>>494434905>Uno GigamaxJust learn the matchup anonI'm not saying he's not strong but he has pretty average damage, only really converts off his f.H, CH 236H or ults, and his parries while pretty different from DP characters have their own exploits. I'm not even saying he's weak but Uno's a slow-and-steady character who wears you down rather than an exploder who crucifies you for pressing forward for one frame
>>494446751gyame iys shyit
I'm going to kill myself
>>494448530stream it
>>494448530don't do it kizzingtonthink of all the mcdonalds you havent eaten yet
Why does Lancelot's projectile STAY ON HITWhy does he get to meaty projectile after a brave counter and be safe against DPsWhy does he get a sideswitch from itWhy can he jail you into an air unblockable if you try to jump it midscreen
>>494449047how many projectiles don't stay even if the opponent is hit. I'm pretty sure it's the norm
>>494449194THEY DON'T LINGER LIKE HIS
>>494449047Homosexual privilege
>>494449047WHAT DO I FUCKING DO WHEN HE PUTS IT DOWNYOU CAN'T EVEN BC IT BECAUSE HE MIGHT LEAP
Would you eat Ferry out even if she had just finished peeing
>>494449519yes
>>494449519Ghosts don't pee
>>494449346if you need help dealing with his projectile just ask.you don't want to stay fullscreen screen against lance because he can throw it out for free, unless your character has a way to punish him for doing that like katalina or zooey.but even if it's out, the correct answer is to just walk backwards because it doesn't go fullscreen, it goes about 3/4 of the screen.if you jump at him, then he can easily 2H you, and challenging his approach on the ground is also a bad trade because his projectile is still on the screen and he can run behind it.so if you let him get away with throwing his projectile, you just have to back up and forfeit the space because you just gave him screen control.
>>494449665Okay but what about when he STEALS THE CORNER WITH IT
>>494450013what do you mean steal the corner with it?
>>494450013THE CORNER SHOULD BE A FUCKING SAFE SPACEYOU CAN'T ESCAPE BUT AT LEAST YOU DON'T HAVE TO WORRY ABOUT CROSSUPSTHAT'S HOW IT SHOULD FUCKING BEWHY DOES LANCELOT GET TO STEAL THE CORNER AND RUN UNLIMITED PRESSURE IF HE CHOOSES NOT TO
>>494449519In a heartbeat.
>the corner should be a safe space i don't know bwo, i've been memed with 10k damage combos numerous times while in the corner
>>494450105>THROW PROJECTILE>WAIT FOR REVERSAL>COMMAND DASH>NOW YOU SIDESWITCHEDAND IF HE GETS A HIT AFTER HE CAN SPEND 50% METER TO SIDESWITCH MIDCOMBO AND PUT YOU BACK IN THE CORNERAND THE COMBO LASTS LONG ENOUGH FOR HIM TO GET HIS PROJECTILE BACK TO FUCKING DO IT ALL OVER AGAIN
>there are people in this thread RIGHT NOW who actually use the Guard button to blockKEGARAWASHII
>>494450612like for oki?just hold the block buttonyou are always suppose to do that against lance, that's lance matchup 101
>>494450652I'm a newbie Vira, don't be mean
>>494450686This game has terrible keyboard support and when I try to mash while pressing the block button it cancels everything out and I neither press anything or block, so I pretty much can't
Remember when Granblue favored neutral and everything wasn't plus on block?
>>494450747go buy a controller
>>494450947If somebody made me play a fighting game on a controller I would want to kill myself even more
isn't a leverless arcade stick just a fancy keyboard?
>>494450939yeah I remember when everyone had plus on block lows and supplemented that with plus on block specials and plus on block advancing rush that was also strike invuln too!
Hmm, so bottom tier Ferry won a tourney before Luci did, huh.
>>494452118Better nerf her again for good measure
>>494452282Removing her from the game would be preferred.
>>494451376go buy a mechanical keyboard
>>494448530ft10? i am far sadder and suicidal than you. yes this is competition.
https://www.twitch.tv/zdamascusgood mornying. awt has started.
a kat is currently bullying the irish.
>Turn on stream>Kat vs SiegIt's over.
>>494446340If they really couldn't make it happen, at the least, putting Mr. Satan in as an assist character in Majin Buu's moveset throwing exploding Game Boys and launching across the screen with a weak Dynamite Kick for frame traps would have been okay, but I'd argue canon be damned in a game where Yamcha was top-tier for a while in the face of Zamasu and Beerus, if they gave Satan a jetpack and made him a trap character with some weak but fast karate to go into trap bombs and such, it could have worked. Overall, I think it really shows a lack of creativity and confidence that they couldn't get one of the most unique Z Fighters working, much like they couldn't get 17 working, but at least they made him part of 18's moveset, but then turn around and make 17 his own character as DLC anyways. Just feels like a middle finger in hindsight.
damn these guys suck
>>494448530>>494455195Anyone up for some Gran Bruise?
>>494456174Are you really going to queue?
how the fuck did you fumble such an easy win against this siegfraud
Zesty nigga hours
>>494456303You can be nice. They're european...
>troonsagi is a kojifag
this man praying to his fumo to not have a 38% winrate.
My god these casters are insufferable.I hate the nu-FGC so fucking much.
dualsense moment
>>494455997Putting Satan in Fat Buu's moveset would be a good way to include him. I don't like the jetpack thing only because (unless Super retrofitted it into canon) that was made up entirely by the Budokai games>YamchaI'm not saying to follow power level autism, but you need to capture the core of the character. Yamcha is still one of the best fighters on Earth, just with the fatal flaw of overconfidence leading to devastating losses. This eventually got flanderized into him being a jobber but he has a full moveset to turn into a character and was competitive with, if not Goku, then the other humans, up through and including the Saiyan Saga. Yamcha can also fly, throw ki blasts and beams etc., so there wasn't anything special that needed to be done for him unlike Roshi or Videl who have unique system mechanic changes.With Mr. Satan his entire thing is not being able to do the things necessary to basic combat in DBZ's setting, so you'd need some heavy creative legwork to make him function while capturing his vibe. I'd say wait until DBFZ2 but given the recent balance patches that game got I think Bamco actively hate that game and want it to die so they can leave it behind, RIP
how do you drop that
https://www.start.gg/tournament/ultimate-fighting-arena-2024-3/event/granblue-fantasy-versus-rising-arc-world-tour-platinum-ps4/brackets/1639157/2500897there is currently a horse fighting arefu
>Doesn't take the first game>Gets Sieg'ed
>>494457269what hors is that
>>494457443https://www.pixiv.net/en/artworks/114767780
Why is the gay nigga from SF6 commentating Granblue irl?
>>494457443>>494457627Unfortunately tamamo cross is a belial player.oh shit hes on stream.
>>494457627I can't recognize tamamo cross without her blue headband
belialfaggot getting destroyed loooooooool
>>494457795yeah I had to prowl the pixiv to find out if it was tamamo or someone else without the accessories
>PS4
Game is full of titcows and all the commentators are talking about is man cheeks.That Belial costume was a mistake.
are they joking about the footsies? i can't tellthere's no footsies happening
drop city
tamamo crossies its ogre
>>494458006It is compared to Slime Fighter
socky washed
No idea why socky is playing kat when his charlotta is much better
DUDE, JUST BC THREE TIMES LMAO
>>494458108But they have drive rush?
>>494457664Virum is gawdlike, watch your mouth
DPs shouldn’t chip
>>494459263Chip shouldn't even be a thing in a game like Rising. It only exists as a mechanic to enable fireball zoners, and Rising hates zoners with a fiery passion.
>>494459263das gawdlike
>>494459263>>494459359All specials and supers should chip in all fighting games. NO EXCEPTIONS.
>making them change the console because ps4 is dogshitbased......
>>494459583are they actually finding a spare ps5 from the tekken corner?
>>494459583>rising got stuck with the cucks4lmao!
>>494459359Chip gives players a reason not to play as passive as they otherwise wouldLet's say you're playing a character who doesn't have a good throw bait, and your opponent just plays evasive, walking back or delay teching then eventually taking their turn. Maybe you'll throw them or get a perfectly timed counterhit after baiting the 2L, but you have very little to make the opponent be proactive. Chip damage gives you something, particularly late into a round where every bit of damage gets the opponent closer and closer to death.And considering Rising has both a frame 1 spotdodge and prevents chip kills until the opponent is both at 1HP and a gap has appeared in your offense, it's possible to avoid most chip kill situations. If you spotdodge a DP that's a huge punish for you
COLOSEUM PLEASE
>koji is a belial now
so that is a wish confirm.. i see..
>>494460158Not surprising if you want to win
>Belial vs Siegfried
this is your strongest american? loooooooooooool
I wish this game wasnt so bad.
Can't you hide trophy notification?
KOJICOCO WITH THE 66L
>>494460475yeah
>>494381262Id rather turn into a fightcade boomer than put up with that abomination.
rare install
Now this is some primal unga
eubros...........
>>494460525open up eurosissy
nierGAWDS stay winning
>>494459263DPs shouldn't give you oki after akshually
just woke up>belial vs siegfrieddont tell me it was all like this so far
>>494460623
Ultimate Gran for season 2, called it
>>494460797Don't worry, Katalina is there too.
mmmm i thyink nyormals should alsyo chip
>>494460797Worse, Katalina vs the Ladiva casino
>>494460961Shouldn't you be getting ready for school, Hyde?
>>494460962socky only won because he cried to the TO for 2+ minutes stopping the ladiva battle fervor
>>494460961Dark skinned vampire hands wrote this post
>>494461206>Dark skinned vampire???
>>494460961just play the stinky fox then
Troons THIS is your hero?
>>494461458eu's best player.. pffffft
>10 seconds in level 3
Charlotta anon, they will know our pain
This nigga Usagi has more facial hair than me.
>crowd chanting 2M into f.H lmfao
>>494461692where is xewom
>>494461953https://www.start.gg/tournament/ultimate-fighting-arena-2024-3/event/granblue-fantasy-versus-rising-arc-world-tour-platinum-ps4/brackets/1639157/2592684hasn't played yet apparently
yooooo is that belial for the 1000th time das crazythanks cygames for giving this fag nothing but buffs
>>494461953His pool just started I think
Are Zeta and Vira hard to pick up?
Belial is still less gay than Nier.
>didnt want to shake the handlmao would be based if you played someone respectful, but you literally play belial bitch lolda fuck
>>494462047apparently the zeta optimals are difficulty.
Lucilius schizo is gonna have a fit
>>494461953all in on aminekat
>>494462047zeta is hard to playvira is pretty simple
luci looking like the new braindead top tierthis senkh guy plays sieg and he was free crystals for me in ranked, if he's beating socky on kat that's kinda crazy how hard luci carries
>almost lost to a nobody ladiva in one of the most onesided matchups in the game>loses to a fraudulent top tier pickedsad
To the guy that called me a schizo for saying that Zeta's 214L was buggedApologize.
>>494461298I'm guessing that he's referring to Nagoriyuki
>>494462968I never played strive I wondered what blackula had to do with this.
Oh thank god, new commentators.
>>494462968That's a weird thing to refference considering that chip on normals is (or was) a Mortal Kombat staple.
aminekat sisters we are fucked
>>494463183who?
>Seox does a triple attack on me >"ok he's minus 4 now let me just-">he just does it again somehowHuh?
>>494463221I don't know im just cheering for the underdog
>>494463350all charlottas are underdogs doebeit
I hope for xerom vs uno (bribrisan)
big gran on screen
>>494463508isn't that the bum that robbed niggas in the jappa tournament recently?
>>494463607I doubt it since he's european, unless I'm mixing it up with someone else
who did aminekat play xewom
I think that I'm constantly getting matched with one guy who watches the tourney
Production SUCKS
>>494463815was wrong
just woke upwhere are the charlottas??
>sheep vs sorizkek
gone just like the horse posters...
>AraettWhere is katGAWD to BUCK BREAK him when needed?
>>494464295GET OFFYOUR HIGH HORSE
>>494464268I don't mean on /gbvsg/, I mean in the tourneyI know already you guys are sissy losers who can't handle a loss and will quit the game over it
>>494464453>you guysi might be a sissy loser who got fucked in a first to 10 but i am not a quitter
this sheep player is not very skilled
>>494464561He's a commentator man
>>494464561the other day I watched his stream and was complaining about the GM systemwhich is fair and all but not when you have 400 crystals, bro you didn't even try
>>494464561THIRTY EIGHT PERCENT
Eustace bros there is still hope
>>494464927
yo this gran
lmoa
LMAO katGAWD junior
dudeakoff got those man tits
dudeakoff broken
>has to bring out the seox for the granGODKING
luv U fireballsimple as
did i just block one jab?? bc timethis game is so ass
>>494465384should've spot dodged lil buddy
>>494465440lol
>>494465493>lo-*BCs*
rapedakoff
GAWDLIKE
sloppedoff
>>494465576*evades and gets nothing for it*how do you like that??
Many grans, 0 djeetas. What a time!>>494462047Hello, i play both. Zeta is extremely difficult, even outside of her combos shes can be very demanding.
GranGAWD
>>494465712>*evad-oh shit he evaded it and he'll try to punish me*SBAs*
Hahahahaha dudeakoff is shit
>>494465807implying im naive enough to try to punish a dodged bc when i know it is literally impossible in 99% situations
I'm on stream in a bit
>>494462569>>494465725Really? I expected Zeta to be difficult, but I figured Vira would be just as hard.
>>494465916ok xerom
>>494465725>even outside of her combos shes can be very demanding.yeah, you need a lot of stamina to have sex with her
>that colornot /our/ kat
>>494465916cheering 4 u bud
who wants to play? eu/echaven't played in a week i'm just gonna mash
>skyll online>sorizGawf>skyll offline>siegfraud extra fraud
das GAWDlike
>>494466183Soriz is a sieg counterpick
>>494466171I'll be in the lobby.
>>494466083who’s WE, honkey
kat should be allowed to lightwall mid air
>>494463235Your first mistake was thinking it was ever your turn in Rising.
>>494466268all of us>bu-we're a hivemind
das not gawdlike
>>494466292i should be allowed to see 4chan posters address and send in an air strike
Kat represents everything I hate about Xrd Ky Kiske.
>>494466364please god release me
Overtuned Shotos Versus - Rising
DP more bwo
>>494466461Kat isn't as fucked upt. Ky player
>>494466461But she doesn’t have stun edge YRC
>>494466510Oh, no. Not even close. But goddamn does she still give me nasty flashbacks.
>>494465983
Hve there been any japs on stream
>>494466749zetasmell...
>>494466810There are no Japs in the tournament
>>494466810Japs don't really fly out anymore. Don't expect any at ECT later this month.
A friend told me to kill myself like the retarded tranny I am for playing Lowain.Was he right? Why?
>>494466335Nice try, Vira tranny.
>>494466960You're both wrong, because trannies don't play Lowain. Only Memelords, homos, and real women play him.
eustacebros... no....
>>494467105meant >494466960
>>494467105Guess again, nerd. I just mash buttons with Belial and people get hit eventually.
>>494467208Foppi... Ha lavorato...
>>494467486such a beautiful whore
imma fly around like a cum shot in the wind and hope you get hit eventually because no one uses the block button
im feeling bad for a bea player... this isn't right.
>>494467486Who?
my hero
>GUIRTYYYYYYYYYYYY... CYCRONE!!!!
I'm next
my opponent is ducking
why is the draw ticket system for lobby skins so ass? It doesn't seem to operate on a knockout basis, so once you're only left with a few undiscovered ones you get dupes like 99% of the time (and the refund for dupes is ass too). Don't tell me this is how their gacha works as well, this is why the chinese gachas are eating their lunch.
>>494468058>>494468063waiting forever
Why no moms...
>>494468058shyut thy fyuck nyup
>>494468249She's still banned from awt events
>>494468249Europoors can’t afford her
>Zippy getting insulted by the commentators "he'll play Belial!">he plays DjeetaHe's... He's honest now...
I like default djeeta more than the alternate skin..
he mad
zippy washed
>BC BC BCex-nierfags carried by her DP
I'll be next on stream
>>494468785*kneels*
>>494468249for what reason would anyone pick her?she is mid, doesnt do anything uniquely op
>zekromlmao
>xerom had to play against percy>now sieg>he might play against lance if jessekumiko makes it outthe homoknights haunt him
Yeah, I main Charlotta, how could you tell?
ganbatte zekrom
why does a safe (on block and on dodge) ultimate ball lead into a combo?
>>494469307mnyou seeyou can throw her if you are in the corner
>>494469307issa lowish mid tier
>>494469307>on blocknot on corner>on dodgenot on certain distances>whybecause every character is as or even more retarded than that
>Default Charlottathis will be problem later on
>>494468697>it's another "Nierfag gets bailed out by counter DP and triple brave counter" episodeShe's going to start winning tournaments again a month from now
oh nyo...
uhmm charlottabwos??
Imma throw
>>494469416>not on certain distancesyou need to be so specific that it never matters>because every character is as or even more retarded than thatwhich lariat type ultimate that gives a combo in the corner is safe on block and dodge in most situations?
damn no wonder yuros outsource their air defense to america
Is every single EU player watching the stream? I've been waiting in the queue for 25 minutes and haven't gotten a single match.
finna wake up jump and then downplay ITT
>he stood
>>494469668I am watching the streamI'm every EU player
commentators coping seething sneeding
UHHH VIRATROONS?? CARE TO EXPLAIN?
Make grabs 1 frame and cut the range in half
>>494469631>which lariat type ultimate that gives a combo in the corner is safe on block and dodge in most situations?
>>494469631>you need to be so specific that it never mattersxerom got fucked for it multiple times on stream without counting SBAs on reaction>NOOOOOOOOO OTHER CHARACTERS DON'T HAVE THE SAME RUSHDOWN ABILITIES A RUSHDOWN CHARACTER DOESmight as well make everyone a square and not give unique strengths to anyone I guessyour main btw? post profile + proof it's you
Explain to me why people call Vira trannybait. Wouldn't Six make more sense? Troons love dexfags.
>>494469803thats our tgirl.
>>494469668That or playing the tournament.
>>494469921Wh*tes projecting their tranny obsession as always
they don't have my color
>>494469921Yuri and troons go hand in hand
The meter grimnir gets is so fucking stupid
>>494469836you can press a button, let it hit the armor and spot dodge cancel and always get a punishyou can just spot dodge regularly and get a punish always as well>>494469853>green text melty of something that was not sad>no examples as welllol>post profile + proof it's youyou first
>>494469921she's a dyke so she's a magnet for 'roons
>>494470124>no examples as wellyou never watched xerom play? lol remove your rose tinted glasses dude>green text melty of something that was not sadit was implied. explain me why a rushdown character isn't allowed to have a good rushdown ability?>>post profile + proof it's you>you firstit's pretty obvious I main charlotta no, you dofus?still not posting your main though???
>>494434905put lowain abel vas and charlotta in a tier of their own above the rest and we have a deal
>>494470248I play Metera.
>>494470332thanks for the laugh but you're not him
Eustacebros... We couldn't make top24 again...
>>494470248>you never watched xerom play?Yea I did that why I made the ball post in the first place.>it was implied.No.>explain me why a rushdown character isn't allowed to have a good rushdown ability?Explain to me why a rushdown character needs a mostly safe ultimate starter? Just because a rushdown character is a rushdown character they need to be safe and brainless in most situations?>it's pretty obvious I main charlottayea so? thats not what i asked. post profile + proof it's you
>>494470548Nigga lost to a commentator
>>494470714Virum is pretty good honestly jokes aside, probably one of the better percys in EU
>seeding NAbvlls against eachother in top 24 winnerswhy are frenchies like this
>>494470861beat me to it... eurocollusioncucks...
>>494470553>Yea I did that why I made the ball post in the first place.I mean multiple matches and not against the dude I also stomp in ranked lol have you watched his last tourney where he fought wavie for example? wavie was consistently dodging a lot of charlotta balls>Explain to me why a rushdown character needs a mostly safe ultimate starter? Just because a rushdown character is a rushdown character they need to be safe and brainless in most situations?....yes? did you just wake up from coma? rushdown = brainless. without counting that again, it's still counterable as proven by good players or xerom would win everything no?>post profile + proof it's youyou're still not posting your main, what do you have to hide? besides there's not that many charlottas playing here in this general so you could do 1+1
>>494470932there is like 8 active charlottas bwo..
>>494471176>dodges the ENTIRE post>still won't post it because he's a little scared cuckity cuck who can't even simply mention which character he mains because he knows he'll get fucked for itkeep seething about the little dwarf with the crown until the end of time bro LMAO no nerfs ever btw!
>>494471338
sorry siegbro idk what happened, couldn't press anything so i restartedand now it gives me this
>>494471775Yeah I figured that it bugged out. Oh well, ggs.
>>494470714>dqed his ass cause he has to commentatekek
>>494471903Damn Virum cucked him hard wtf
come play
>>494470932>I mean multiple matchesI have watched multiple matches of his yeah ?> wavie was consistently dodging a lot of charlotta ballsDoes that somehow change the fact that she is nearly safe and unpunishable on every ultimate ball? even if you dodge them? >....yes? did you just wake up from coma? rushdown = brainless. That is not the case at all.>you're still not posting your main, what do you have to hide?Hilarious, considering you are still not posting post profile + proof it's you. Surely if you act like such an arrogant tard, you wouldn't be coward enough to not play by even your own rules? C'mon, then.You won't, because you can only talk shit like a tard behind the mask of anonymity and you know it.
>>494472105NO
i won evo. lower your tone when speaking to me.
tick tock burgers
>>494472280didn't you learn your lesson at revo. sit down and shut up takocel.
>>494472149>Does that somehow change the fact that she is nearly safe and unpunishable on every ultimate ball? even if you dodge them?if she does it from fullscreen, skill issueif she does it from close range, skill issue againif she does it from medium distance, 50% of the cast have moves like that>That is not the case at all.lol>You won't, because you can only talk shit like a tard behind the mask of anonymity and you know it.speaking for yourself? I'm clearly showing my stance here, I main charlotta, you STILL haven't mentioned who you play for some reason... almost like... if you mentioned that character... your castle of dorito splattered uno cards would fall>le anonousity>talking shitI'm just telling you the truth, talking shit where??? LOLand yes this is an anonymous forum so I can 1) not only not post proof or anything (you should already know who I am anyway, there are not 8 charlottas posting here) and 2) make fun of you for not abiding by it unlike me, problems?the truth is that doesn't matter how much you upplay charlotta, she's not considered by anyone good at the game top tier or anything, and that you still haven't mentioned your main. you could even lie but you won't even do that
game will remain bad as long as characters like beatrix are in it.
>>494473241and who do you play?
>>494473241Truth bomb
why is this nigga pretending charlotta isn't overly safe on everything even compared to other characters in this game
>>494473241>card games will remain bad until aggro/control decks remain in itcan you just admit you don't like fighting games or you don't like putting effort and move on?
>white guy is the hype man>black guy is calm and collectedInteresting reversal
>>494473241TRVKE
>she
>>494473467thats just what yuropeans look like anon
safe but not plus
>>494473323My hero Hatsoon is HERE!
>>494473330shiteater post
>best eu luci is a trannyGod damnit....
BEATRIX NIGGA, BEAT THIS SPANISH TRANNY AND MY LIFE IS YOURS
>luci wins neutral most of the time>loses to le delta cocknerf this bitch
>>494473527>still loses to beatrixLMAO cuckie cuck retard
balance bantu... do it again.
>>494473330lol i HATED aggro as a kid now as an almost-ojisan I hate control because they're wasting my precious time
>>494472875>You won't, because you can only talk shit like a tard behind the mask of anonymity and you know it.Thanks for proving me right. You talk shit but can't back it up even by your own rules because you would have something to lose if your real profile would be tied down to your shitposting. Because this is not how you act in reality. I always knew you were a fraud charlottaschizo, but I don't hold it against you. I wouldn't post proof of my real profile myself either if I acted like such an crazy dumbass like you constantly in the threads.GGs
>>494473330the great irony here is that characters like beatrix are strictly designed for people who dont like fighters, just like most of the game.
>>494473653>>494471338>gets overly angry over a beatrix comment>same posting styleMhmmm... I'm now actually interested in you posting proof you actually play Charlotta.
koningin beatrix W
like a book
luci gameplay:>44L>44L>44L>44L>214HZAAAAAMN CLEAN NEUTCHmickeyshoes ass game
>>494473939you still haven't posted your main though, unlike me??? retard I posted my stance and you didn't
hello
>>494474276PLAP PLAP PLAP PLAP PLAP
Why don't you fags arguing play a ft10 and then kiss afterwards you homos
>>494474406>>494474406>>494474406
>>494474183Post proof you play Charlotta. Don't ignore me.
