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Bea and Zeta are Vaseraga's heroes
IKIMONO MISETE KURERU
Zetabros always saving the thread when we need them the mostThus we forgive their melties
why is bea allowed to be so cute
im glad the reign of niertrannies is over
>both tournaments are dead
Post main and resultshttps://openpsychometrics.org/tests/FSIQ/Niia!
>>494572858world of warcraft did us dirty
>>494572923blocktards??
>>494572923ZooeyI have never read a book fully and always cheated English classes
sex with mids and throws
>>494572923this is too many fucking questions im done after getting to central point test
Draphs, being a hardy and conflict driven race, tend to reach breeding maturity a full decade before humans! This is to ensure their genes are passed on swiftly.
>>494572923Soriz.I don't have time for your fancy reading and funny shapes, I just want to push buttons
>>494572923Uno>bad Verbal IQIs this why I drop my combos so much
>>494574389
>>494572923Fastiva.
ggs lyobby
>>494572923aphantasia bros i don't feel so good..
>>494572923yueli threw pretty hard on the green squares too
>>494575704just open it in paint and rotate it there bwo..
>>494575736that's cheating!>>494575728wao i thought yool mains were dumb
>>494572923why is everyone so high, is it inflated or are we just 2smart
>>494575892its okay when we did testing for children we gave them physical blocks for applelets like you.
>>494575892A method of cheating or a display of anon's ingenuity?
>>494576079please don't make fun of me for being an applelet, im also trying my best to draw more too
>>494572923There ain't no way I'm doing that so count me as 70 IQ-Bubs main
>>494576179I lost the ability to see the apple, I blame psych meds.
>>494576049charlotta mains? you are needed now more than ever...
>be fraud Master (sub-50% win rate after getting here)>matched against a GM in the top 100 overall players>sweatiest game of my life>eek out a 2-1>get the normal amount of crystals for this difficult victoryThe system here is so flawed, I pray that the October patch makes it more equitable
>>494572923how did you guys not all get full marks on the cube rotation, that shit is free especially with no time limit.
>>494572923Alright fuck you, I wasn't going to take this shit because1) I'm ESL, the test is clearly meant for people who have ENG as their first language. If I'm not mistaken in Veritasaium's video about IQ he mentions that people do poorly in IQ tests meant for a specific group, ie, if you take an European and make him do a IQ test meant for Americans, he'll do worse than he would do in a IQ test meant for Europeans.2) IQ tests are bullshit, obsessing over IQ is an actual sign of being a midwit, MENSA is a fucking scamBut the test was fairly entertaining so I did it all.124.I'm getting my friends to do it tomorrow.
>>494572923yo what the fuck
>>494572923Ferry. If I was truly this high IQ, I would've uninstalled and quit in January.
>taking IQ tests and bragging about them instead of playing the gameTHIS IS EXACTLY WHY STRIVE SUCCEEDED. DAISUKE GOT SICK OF HIS "FANS" NOT PLAYING THE GAMES.
>>494577209You're supposed to try and do the test at a reasonably quick pace, I didn't spend more than a couple minutes on each rotation. I could have painstakingly checked my work, same for the grid puzzle, but that goes against the point of the test and you might as well open up a dictionary for the vocabulary part if you're willing to go that far
>>494578613Are troons intrinsically high IQ?
>>494572923Ferry. Help me not get shimmied
>>494578667this thing would seem to imply otherwise, spending an arbitrarily long time won't do you much good past a certain point. I just took it to mean you didnt have to rush - when they want you to rush they force you to anyway, like with the scrabble and flash cards.
>>494578458>>494578925y we got two ferrys but only one plays with us
i have sex with all ferry players
>>494578764That's irrelevant. What matters is the trannies and smashfags actually play Strive.
>>494579325And I'd rather have it stay that way than have them play grub
>>494579450That decision is not up to you.
Man, I can't even imagine the amount of faggotry required to smurf in fighting games.I am a shitter who can't get out of S+, which means that a lot of my characters are in A rank. Every time I play one of them to try and rank them up so I can play people at my level I feel like SHIT. I don't want to beat on A rank players...
>>494579648you can climb out of A rank in like 10 games
>>494579543It is for I am God.
>>494579262Because I like to experience my negativity alone.
>>494579842are you masters too king
>>494580607No, friend. I am a hardstuck S+/S++ and weep for the 1.0 days.
>>494579842join the tournament faggot
I will not grind S. I will simply start playing another character.
>>494581031Stop fucking asking me that
>>494582216hmmmmmnyo
>>494583353I hope you die
>>494580765sheeiit, ganbare anon, maybe watch some ferry anon replays to see what hes doing vs the cringe in the game
>>494579450Retard? A tranny just got 3rd place at the EU tourney.
>>494585023Anon, we've been through this.Yeah, we have one tranny or two, every FG has it.Strive is THE tranny game though. It's on a tier of its own.
>>494586217There was a tranny playing Vira too. Rising has trannies, it's just that general player base is much smaller than Strive, which also means less trannies.
Name one character with more potential than Zeta.
Hilarious seeing people discuss which game has more trannies when ASW games are troon-coded by their nature
>>494586913DBFZ is spicoded
>>494587167Oh right, that's an exception
>494586335Oh, you're retarded. Carry on then, I'm not entertaining you.
>"x" coded
street shitter 6 is pajeet-coded (quite literally)
>494587367Holy cope, retarded eutranny.
>>494590575SAAR DO NOT DRIVE RUSH
>>494590575And just like that, suddenly it looking like shit makes perfect sense.
>>494590575What, did they want a pakistani arc like tekken?
>>494590575IIRC WC3R graphics* were done by jeetsAnd they ended up looking horrible. Unironically worse than the game they were remaking, a 20 year old low poly game.Maybe it's not a coincidence that SF6 looks horrible too.*vfx, SFX, models, etc
>>494592754That GTA remake that was a hilarious disaster also utilized jeets. I do wish companies understood that cheap unskilled labor results in lower-quality products.
>>494592982if only it were just low level jobs jeets are getting into silicon valley CEO chairs and the products of those companies are getting worse and worseI've been using win11 recently and it's the worst shit I've ever seen
Why doesn't ANYONE here post cute images of Katalina, that finely aged adult woman hag knight who makes women's pussies into waterfalls through her sheer presence?No I don't care that in the gacha she is dead
>>494593332Because I prefer this knight
>>494593649that is a child
>>494593332harvin lovers run this thread
>>494594345into the ground
>>494593332>HadShe's only 24.
>>49459462424 is retirement age
>>494594387Closer to headpat height
is it me or do the top tiers do way less damage after the meaty?hh2rwr
>>494595497Only ones that relied on ult starters or fuzzy overheads, so just Grimnir and Zeta.
>>494593332>24>hagGuess I'm a grandpa.
>>49459567366L starter also got nerfed, which affects most top tiers since they are 66L abusers.
>>494572389She's voiced by Aya Hirano
>>494594897Charlottabros...
>>494578613
>>494598980thank you
>>494578613I've played for 500 hours, lemme take a break until the next patch.
>>494599138See you soon, patch notes are lin ess than 24h
>>494582204me but s+ and ive done this 4 times already
>>494578613This obsession with “fake fans” who “don’t actually play” is so bizarre.Fighting games are so niche that they need all the help they can get. If someone just wants to retweet art and doesn’t actually play the game then that’s fine by me. There’s a small but non-zero chance that someone will see their posts and actually WILL start playing the game. People who talk and don’t play are still better marketing for the game than absolute silence.
>>494593332She's what?
>>494599316Didn't work for Guilty Gear pre-Strive.
>>494599451
>>494599451Doesn't matter, she's gonna get ressed once Gran/Djeeta reach Estalucia
>last threadyou guys are cranky
ratto in a month?
>katalina is dead>zooey is dead>ferry is dead>nier is deadwhy is it like this
She's passed on! This knight is no more! She has ceased to be! She's expired and gone to meet 'er maker! She's a stiff! Bereft of life, she rests in peace! If you hadn't nailed 'er to the perch she'd be pushing up the daisies! 'Er metabolic processes are now 'istory! She's off the twig! She's kicked the bucket, she's shuffled off 'er mortal coil, run down the curtain and joined the bleedin' choir invisible!! THIS IS AN EX-HAG!
>>494599995A month and 2 weeks probably since that's when the battle season ends.
>>494600061What did they do to Ferry?She's already a ghost.
>>494600562exactly
Anyone EU wants to play
>>494602147I guess I could go for a few.
2h crutchtards your response?
>>494602226I'm in the lobby
>>494602310more downplaying and more complaining about other characters, obviously
>>494602310Maybe he should stop jumping like a retard.
>>494602551you can be nice de arimasu
Why didn’t I hear Weight of the World even once during the tournament yesterday?
>>494603578God took control of the random wheel.Euros were too terrified to change any setting in fear of leaving colosseum.
>>494603578Neil Young got it removed from Spotify over that Joe Rogan shit
where is he
>>494600061Zooey is dead too? What the fuck?
NO ONE WANTS TO SIT THERE AND BLOCK THIS BITCH ALL DAYI DIDN'T GET OPENED UP, I JUST LITERALLY GOT TIRED OF BLOCKINGI DONT WANNA BLOCK AGAINST THIS BITCH BECAUSE AFTER TWO FUCKING NORMALS THE BITCH SHOULD BE PUSHED BACK ENOUGH TO WHERE SHE NOT STILL IN MY FACEI DON'T FEEL LIKE BLOCKING
>>494607685>I DIDN'T GET OPENED UP, I JUST LITERALLY GOT TIRED OF BLOCKINGYep. Blocking in this game is so fucking boring, because you can't do anything to swing things in your favour.
>>494608241Explain in deep detail what you mean.
Ggs Sieg anonIf you want some advice you have to play a bit less passive, especially if Eustace blew an EX cd on slow kill or flamek, because he loses a tool to control different spaces of the screenAnd yes, after you spot dodge blue nade Eustace is still plus, that's why I think jumping it is better than rolling it or dodging it
>>494605996No more horses
>>494608437GGs.Yeah I still struggle to deal with the different nades, feels like you can just throw blue nade and then run across the entire screen and still be plus, it's tough. Also Sieg's SBA really carries in this match-up, I don't know what I'd do without it.
>>494607685Well I have good news for you. You are no longer blocking because I broke your guard anyway.
>>494608716gomen.
>>494608383I mean exactly what I said, you can't do shit to swing things in your favour. You can't IB an attack that is negative, but pushes the attacker out of range. You can't FD some flowcharting faggot and ruin his sequence and take your turn back. You can't block a trick overhead and get your turn back. You just sit there and eat shit until your opponent either burns through his CDs, ends his offense or you DP/super because it wasn't a true blockstring. Or BC him off your ass. Yeah you can evade/roll, but that's for calling out specific moves, and even then you don't always get your turn back. Then you have 66L fags like 66L Belial who just 66Ls you all day until 66L you 66L use a reversal on him mid 66L pressure.
>>494608879Yeah blue nade is super strong and one of his better tools for controlling neutral, one good thing for the opponent though is that if you dodge it at long range the nade cooldown is slightly longer because of the time it takes to blow up if it doesn't impact something, so taking advantage of that is important I feel. This also goes for slow kill (the ball) if Eustace misses with it the cooldown is way longer than normal and he has to either use flamek (he's minus if you roll it at the range where slow kill should be used instead) or grenades, which have a longer startup and risk getting stuffed by faster stuff. And yeah Sieg pretty much needs SBA or Eustace can get away with a lot of stuff, honestly using U fireball might be good if you throw it out on reaction to normal flamek, but I'm not sure how fast is it
>>494609367>IB>FDSpeak Risingese please...
>>494576049IQ doesn't have that much actual meaning and online IQ tests are fancy jokes. My parents took me to professionals at a specialized hospitals to take some, the results they gave back indicated that I was above average (not a super genius, just a little above) and fat lot of good that did me.Don't stress over it, it's only substantial if you're retardedly above or below average and even then it all depends on what you do with your life, for all you know there's a super genius out there in the world busy cleaning public shitters.
>>494609542I can't, because Rising doesn't have any equivalent mechanics. Well, it does have instant blocking, but it doesn't do anything except give you 1% more metre on block.
>>494609845You can't even explain it like "Imagine if you could throw your opponent on a perfect frame block" or something like that?
This game will be good someday...maybe...
>>494609937Okay.Luci's 214L is -6 on, but pushes him back far enough that you can't really get a punish on it. Imagine if you could instant block it, which remove the pushback and allows you to punish with 5f c.Ls or a throw.
>>494609845>it doesn't do anything except give you 1% more metre on blockis this really all IB does in rising
>>494610968Yes it's "just" meter. I guess it's alright for characters that don't have meterless dps, but you get a ton of meter in the game it's kinda superfluous
this game shouldve had pushblock and BBTAG's DP instead of BC
>>494611197>BBTAG's DPWhat makes BBTag's DPs different from normal DPs?
>>494610760That sounds cool but also extremely autistic and would make the Gene memes come true. Games where you're literally limited by shit like reaction times are garbage imo. Want to know the other most known and played genre based on reaction times? FPS and they cheat even at high level lol.There has to be a mid-way encounter between brainless easy shit and interesting strategy that does not involve le epic reactions.Unless you're telling me you can do perfect blocks in the middle of blockstun, in that case the game would just become a poke fiesta no? Because why continue a predictable blockstring if you'd get fucked for it since the opponent can guess your timing perfectly? And you should be playing Vanilla since it was exactly like that...
>>494611318they're bbtag's
>>494611362NTA bur you don't IB on reaction. You IB expecting a certain string and time your blocks to target that string. The problem is that in Rising you don't have a lot of options and that's why IB doesn't give such an advantage. Honestly think that a metered barrier that increases pushback might be better, but straight up adding a mechanic like this would require a lot of gradual changes to adjust it, something they don't fucking do.They would unironically would need to make a beta or something if they change BC or add a new mechanic to gather as much data as possible and change it gradually, because you are never gonna get it right on the first try.
>>494611734>They would unironically would need to make a beta or something if they change BC or add a new mechanic to gather as much data as possible and change it gradually, because you are never gonna get it right on the first try.lol Yeah, never happening.>Honestly think that a metered barrier that increases pushback might be better, but straight up adding a mechanic like this would require a lot of gradual changes to adjust it, something they don't fucking do.Vanilla introduced several mechanics out of nowhere with patches, we might see something like that in S2?
>>494611362It's not as bad as you think it is. For instance, you can IB every attack if you have the rhythm down and catch flowcharting fags unaware. You would still have to pay attention though, in case you IB an attack that is +ob but still pushes the attacker out a bit.Honestly, I just want something, ANYTHING I can do whilst blocking besides holding downback. It's gotten to the point where I just throw out random attacks because I don't care if I die, because at least the round will finally be over. This is also why meterless DPs are so good in this game, because you stop stick your sword up faggots with predictable and shallow offense.
>>494611318same input as pushblock, so a baited pushblock = DP, and a blocked DP leads to an unburstable combofor gbvs it should lock the cooldown until youre back to neutral ig
>>494611734They should first properly balance all the universal mechanics that they introduced in rising before adding any new ones.
>>494613005Still unbelievable BC is still untouched. I guess they have no idea what to do with it yet, after all if it got removed with no other addition or change then this game would become a fucking nightmare.
>>494612639>unburstable comboOof, this sounds like an instant death sentence.
>>494613135Yeah, imagine they touch it, fuck it up and we have to wait a month at the very least to revert it
Why are grabs so slow in this game? Let me grab people who overextend ffs
>>494613534>4f>slowBro? Fastest attack in the game after DPs. Problem is that it has 0 range.
>grab someone when they wakeup>gets grabbed insteadfuck the grab invul
So why didn't the official Granblue twitter tweet about UFA? Why didn't the arcsys channel restream the top8 (like they are doing with uni2)?
>>494613592Game needs 1f grabs
>>494613595How are you getting grabbed on his wakeup? Throw out literally any button.
>>494614126He means he uses the throw, it whiffs, the opponent throws him out of it.
>>494613652>Why didn't the arcsys channel restream the top8 (like they are doing with uni2)?I think the decision to do that is ultimately up to Cygames and not Arcsys. No idea why the official twitter didn't mention the tourney at all.
>>494614363Because he's fresh off the boat from Throw Loop Fighter IV, V, and VI.
>>494611362>Games where you're literally limited by shit like reaction times are garbage imoThere are no fighting games that don’t reward good reaction time. Rising has tons of shit to react to. Not only just anti-airing in general and hitconfirming normals in general, but also raging strike, Narmaya flip, 2B grappling hook, Bea slide, all of Vas’s blue shit… players who have better reaction times will win more, that’s just how fighting games work.Some games are heavier on reaction checks than others, but every fighting game has it to some degree.
>>494614557I'm fresh off anything ever (first fighter) and happens to me too from time to time.
>>494614574>There are no fighting games that don’t reward good reaction time. Rising has tons of shit to react to.It's all reasonable. Some stuff maybe but it's not mandatory, all the other stuff are things regular human beings with a life outside this dumb ass genre can do.You mentioned Vaseraga, I feel like his blue shit throw reversal it like the limit, anything stricter than that and we're already getting in autistic not fun levels of gameplay.
>>494614736Sniffa
>>494612164>Vanilla introduced several mechanics out of nowhere with patches, we might see something like that in S2?Blocking mechanics would completely change the way the game is played, and I doubt they'd do something that drastic in a patch.
>>494615067They will and Sandalphon will abuse all the changes better than others.
>>494615067>Homoshit was developed to take complete advantage of new mechanicsI wouldn't be surprised in the slightest.
>>494614450God Cygames is so fucking stupid
>>494616332>>494614450Any retarded decision is Cygames, Arcsys this time around is mostly faultless and their only fault is maybe the shit servers and technical issues and limitations the game has, anything else is Cygames telling them what to do.
>>494613592>>>>>Problem is that it has 0 range
>>494617249Stop playing SCAMnaya the FRAUDchang.
finna jump
>>494617296>Narmaya has longer throw rangedebunked
finna flip
>>494616689Servers has nothing to do with Arcsys, it's all Epic. Wouldn't be surprised if it was also Cygames decision to use Epic servers, instead of Amazon servers like Strive uses.
finna 5U
>>494617331>>494617463>>494617639t.
What do you do in this game without a dp.
>>494613592>Fastest attack in the game after DPs.Uh, even the fastest DP still has 7 frame of start-up...
>>494618152Start developing a taste for CBT.
>>494618152Downback until you get 50 metre and U DP.
>>494617626Server architecture is all on ArcSys, and it's dogshit because of that. The game wouldn't connect to Amazon servers any faster than it would to Epic servers, because the issue is the software, not the hardware.
>>49461815266L out of pressure
>>494616808thank you
>>494618502is 66l the answer to everything?
>>494618394Server architecture is made by the server host bro, the games just take too fucking long to authenticate the connection. Anyway, I was mainly referring to all the time Rising's online would shit the bed whenever something big happened on a game that uses Epic servers. Palworld just fucked us earlier this year and the matchmaking gets extremely iffy at the start of new Fortnite seasons.
>>494618637mnyou see
>>494618657>Rising's online would shit the bed whenever something big happened on a game that uses Epic servers. Palworld just fucked us earlier this year and the matchmaking gets extremely iffy at the start of new Fortnite seasons.Funny how that doesn't happen to any other game using Epic servers, almost as if the problem is shitty Jap netcoding and not the server provider...
>>494618867I don't play any other game that uses Epic servers, so I can't say, but Strive handled New World's launch pretty well from what I remember. So I still think it's an Epic games server issue.
66L should be a negative edge input, that'd fix it.
>>494622017wat
>NA is in winners side of grand finals for UNI2EUsissies? Your response?
>>494623000Wrong thread anon
>>494623147No I posted in the right thread, any thread for a game where EUsissies are inferior will do (like this one)
>>494623312You seem lost so >>493968790
>>494623505Kinda sad how they don't even watch their own tournaments. UNI2 top 8 has been going on and they've had 3 posts in the last 6 hours
>>494623653You really have no idea how tiny UNI is, do you?
Huh, NA just won another game… weird…
>>494627092which one, huh?
Today is not a good day.
>>494627092In the meanwhile, while using per capita...
>>494627365UNI2. Also one of, if not the best, JP player was there.
>>494628049was orie on screen
>>494628267It was Phonon, Mika, Hyde, Kaguya, Lin, Kuon, Byak and Orie. She got smoked 2-0.
>pick up Vane again to play against some newbie>have fun>afterwards, play some casual>stop having funI'm kidding, it was still fun, but damn, I needed that reminder for why he was considered a low-tier
>>494629028I think I just fought you
>>494629028as a 2b player I understand your suffering
>>494629028Dude was a dog shit addition to the game.>Weak>Unpopular>Looks bland
>>494629303Nah, he's cool.>>494629151If it was a white-haired Vane that can't combo for shit, as he hasn't played this character for months, maybe.
>>494629191this but unironically when people just downback and delay 2l
>>494629303Vane looks cool as fuck.They should have doubled down on the huge fuck off specials, his shit barely has the reach of a 66L.
>>494629517>>494629770Bad taste.
Either I just suck today or everyone is casual queue is a fucking random nut like what the fuck is all this
Gratz EUbros, DBFZ is yours
>>494630697You just haven't experienced having a fullscreen DP.It's okay, you can't help being uncultured.
>>494631239Hate this fag and his faggy nails.
>>494629629>downback and delay 2lthat's every character in the game
Shes balanced
Versusia bad match ups>anyone that has a dp>anyone that has a fireball>anyone that is fast
>>494634086Yuel is cancer as Versusia
>>494633361Still laughing at Elsa showing up on a Mexican tournament yesterday
Thoughts on Granblue Fantasy Versus Rising as a competitive fighting game?
>>494639189i like the girl with huge titsi think they are very competitive
>>494639189picrel but needs to be edited for belial now
>>494639189Is that clip real
>>494639189Primary reason I am unable to play characters that aren't Sieg is that whiffing my DP in a situation where it feels it should hit tilts me to no end.
>>494639591nu uh, quiet dogfraud
>>494640343Clap minus 50 meterActually try 2H
>>494639189He doesn't need itbut it sure is funny
>>494640017ur h dp hits, but ult one misses>>494640524hits, both the first 2H and 2HH can hit depending on timing
>>494640868Yep, his 2H is cracked
>>494639189Show me Charlotta....
>>494641213
>>494642389The way this loops made me do a double-take
>>494639189It's somehow more boring than Strive which is kind of impressive
>>494642389
I've never landed a 2h in my life
>>494643406playing charlotta early on made it impossible to fit 2h into my mind with other charactersi always dp on reaction when the opponent jumps
There is only one player in master queue in eu and it's a Belial with whom I've been playing for the last hour or so.
>>494644385Is he the GM with 2k or 3k crystals?
>>494639189No different than watching SF6 desu.
https://www.twitch.tv/lobstersarentimmortalSOUL bracket
>>494646348>run by a troon>soulnah
New player here, I've got a few of questions>How many frames do I need for safejumps after I get a knockdown?I'm guessing it's 44 frames since that's how many frames throws give.>Are superjumps after throws not safejumps?I'm guessing they aren't since you spend more frames in the air.>What characters have jump-ins that make countering with a 2H difficult?
>>494647285>What characters have jump-ins that make countering with a 2H difficult?Charlotta's jump arc is the fastest in the game and has Akuma's demon flip. In particular, if you get used to other characters for your 2H timing, hers will fuck you over so badly.2B has a double jump that allows her to change trajectory AND she can also air stall, usually it's just better to meet up there and bring her down if you can or to just take the jump because she has one of the most insane j buttons in the game.Besides them, no one else at all? Some are literally free like the huge characters like Versusia and Vaseraga that look like they're on the moon when jumping. However, Vaseraga has an air-stall downwards jumping attack for example, so it may make you whiff the attack. Other characters do have some sort of way to alter their jump trajectory and fuck you over. Narmaya is one of them, she can activate a teleport ability while jumping, so you 2H, she disappears and makes you whiff and punishes you for example. Honestly, they're all easy if they simply decide to jump towards you, most 2Hs are very good and fast enough. However, when you're mentally stacked, that's not as easy to do, obviously.
>>494647285I think it's always a safejump after forward throw but not backthrow, for fast jumpin characters it's charlotta and bubs I guess, lance, 2b and seox have fakeout jumps that could bait and punish 2h's. Idk about framedata.
>>494647285Typically yeah 44 frames will give you the safe jump. Some characters do need to jump to get a safe jump after a grab, perci I know does there might be more. And yeah super jumps will make it not safe for most of the cast
>>4946472851. if you jump and then land you will be -45 or some shit, depends on your character. to safejump you need to be -7 at worst.2. depends on character, see above.3. charlotta, Belial, bubz
this game will be good when throws wont be billion kilometers long so that you can actually bait them based on the character models
ran into some kind of queue syncing fish cabal
any eu/ec wanna mash?
Was defense this hard in vanilla?
>>494650212i can go in about 20 minuteseu vesusia
yeeeeeah, this shit is not reactablequite fucking braindead
>>494649297you won't be able to bait throws no matter the range when delay 2l exists
>>494650793yes it is
What's delay 2l?
It's when uhhhh......I don't remember actually does anyone else know what it is?
>>494650212you want to go still? lobby or room?
>>494651997You press 2L but later
>>494652557lets go lobby
>>494652964ok, im coming
yuel's stance is so shitty after the nerf, ive actually won more interactions with it than before the patch because people immediately disrespect it the moment they see it now.
>>494652709Yeah but when should I do it?, why does everyone says it's so strong
>>494654230You do it when you think they are gonna throw youIf they don't throw you and they are walking back because they are trying to bait your tech, you will instead catch them with the lowIf they do throw you, you get a bad tech
>>494654473I see, thanks
>>494654473Don't forget the third part: if they delay c.H you, you fucking explode. For some reason the delay 2L complainers always forget about this part.
>>494654934It's much harder on the offense side than the defense one.
>>494654934even top players get constantly thrown or low checked because the window is so small in this game for the offense.
Kizzingtons, I slept with my IEMs on and I fucking destroyed them
This shit is IMPOSSIBLE to do on reaction>>494657587From what I'm seeing on Amazon, they look kinda comfortable for sleep though? How is that possible?
https://www.twitch.tv/misskrisalys
>>494657813>not even on knightmare modeLMAO genelet detected
gamers? eu/ec
No lie, i find matches faster in this game than i do in Tekken 8.Says a lot since they completely fucked the ranked system so everybody is auto high rank after a few sessions.No idea how that's even possible.
>>494572923english is not my main language
>>494660335>BeaNo thank you.
>>494660335>>494661379better?
>>494659041It's too hard, leave me alone.
>UFA final game of SF6 was literally someone getting throw loop'd to death
>>494662013SF6hater anon vindicated and his webm collection expanded.
>>494661478Nope.
Ggs momanon, that was the first time i had a long set vs her. She feels pretty strong...
>>494662119It's honestly really funny when someone fucking dies in a stupid way, bonus points if it's a big tournament
>>494664131How do you beat this impeccable strategy?
>>494663461 that was the first time i fought bubz as her and i think she might do a good job of countering most of his zoning as long as i have h pillaryou had some nice patience on defence here and there, i got frustrated a couple times when i was trying to ch your throw attempt and but i was getting thrown insteadggs
>>494664131Jesus.
>>494664394Unironically take the throw. Damage is so high in SFV/VI that you can't afford to call out the grab attempt unless you can react to it, which you can't because of the shimmy.
>>494664131>throw spam>opponent DPs??????????????????? this is like S rank in GBVSR
>>494664131>GRAND FINALLMAOThis fucking game.
>>494664131what's the reason you can do this in sf6? Is the rps really skewed against you trying to mash or jump out or something.
>>494665175He played too patiently.
>>494665175No ideaHe could've tried to use their version of BC too and even if he ate the punish I wonder if that would've been a better outcome
>>494664394jump.
>>494665175Unlike in gbvs, or many modern 2D fighting games, there's no throw protection on wakeup.
>>494664131>>494665006https://youtu.be/okhf0EjUcGY?t=272This isn't new
>>494666154sf6 got too little throw protection framesrising too much
>>494665175>press button on wakeup or try to tech grab>get OS'd and eat full combo>get stunned>lose the roundJust take the throw anon
>>494664131>>494666154>>494666370Why doesn't this happen on GBVSR? Like anon said, throw protection? Is it there to avoid situations like these?What if there's no throw protection? What would happen here? How would I defend myself here? I thought jumping makes you vulnerable on frame 1 minimum, your character crouches here before performing a jump so you would get hit no?
>>494666817>Why doesn't this happen on GBVSR? Like anon said, throw protection? Is it there to avoid situations like these?yes
>>494666817>Why doesn't this happen on GBVSR? Like anon said, throw protection?Yeah throw protection makes it so you can't be thrown for some number of frames after you wake up, can't recall the exact number. I think armored moves like Zeta's parry take it away, so techinically you can throw them on the first frame of their wakeup.
>>494666817In Sf6 you can meaty throw and it would beat them mashing their fastest buttonThere are so many throw protection frames in Rising that you can literally never meaty throw anybody so that it would beat their fastest button.Try going to training mode, putting it so that the bot mashes c.L on wake up and then try to throw loop them. You literally cannot, it's c.L will always beat your throw attempt because there are so many throw invul frames on the opponent waking up.Either way, I think both games have fucked up throw mechanics, one is giving too much brainless shit to the attacker (sf6) and rising giving too much brainless shit to the defender. They should at least remove mash to tech in Rising and it would be at least a decent throw system.
>>494667809i dont know why you dont lose invul when you mash. its stupid.
>>494667809>and rising giving too much brainless shit to the defender.Just safe jump bro. What's he going to do besides BC when your turn never ends?
>>494668515safe jump is not a mix up
>>494668692Mixups? You have plus on block moves for days. Just keep him in jail until he finally presses a button and gets hit or spends a brave point.
>>494668721l-lewd
>>494669015i dont really get what your point is
>>494632065not if youre narmaya
Granblue needs a vampire character. Thy name is Vampy.
>>494669938https://files.catbox.moe/1p9rr7.mp3
>>494670704Oh, that's Tsugaru's voice actor
>>494664131Jappas be like >YOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO THIS GAMEPLAY FIRE!!!>*Picks modern and mashes their way to Master*
>>494669938counterpoint; werewolf character
>>494671978>DESU 2mmmmm
>>494672174It's funny because the little girl is the stand
>>494672174have them be Celica BB, where all the animations are her hiding behind him and his block is protecting her.
>>494671978>>494672269OKAY FUND IT
>>494672269WHAT.
There are so many fucking dogniggers online lately.>BOMB BOMB BOMB GUESS GUESS GUESS>FULL SCREEN LOW ONCE IN A WHILE>EVERY JUMP IN GETS STUFFED WITH f.H I'm getting tired of this shit.
>>494672837Cmon anon.
>>494672837issa a midtier
AYO, SLIME FIGHTER THREAD?
>He is here
>>494672837I never see any
>>494672905Fuck you, leatherman.
>>494672837you fags really do complain about any character, embarassing
>>494674924*ult grenades this post*
>>494675298Just jump away.
>>494675298*blocks the mix*fool, i have the gene™
why did you get buffed for smiling?
>>494675537it's actually not that hard to block the overheads dash attacks characters have
>>494674924*hits you with any button/special with Luci midscreen with 100 meter*
>>494675749Well if Eustace does it right he has a real 50/50 from autocombo because 214L-M and c.XX6H hit on the same frameBut you can dp itOr BC the second hit of the autocombo
>>494668296Because the entire reason the throw protection is there in the first place is to make sure mashing beats throws. Mashing beats throws, meaty beats mashing, downbacking beats meaty and throwing beats downbacking. It's your basic RPS. Having throws that beat mashing and jumping just dumbs down the oki into a single "will they shimmy or not?" decision, which is boring.
>>494666817delay 2lshimmies are not a thing you have to worry about so you can always gamble on a late tech with no worry of getting punished unless the opponent is 50x better than you, reads your button timing and destroys you for it.
>>494675943Fucking faggots even trying to say he's not a top 2 character.
>>494676167EU killed the luci schizo
>>494672837game sux
eustace is cringe because his funny bouncy balls are the answer to every fucking situationbraindead fucking character
>>494672837I'mgightingEustacetooIhopeyou'llcomeandwatch.PleaseturnyourAdBlockersoffthanks.- Brick
>>494677416Who do you play?
>>494677583That's not a dud, Brick
>>494676167We took away Niers midscreen damage and gave it to Luci instead (it's even better now)
>>4946779012B, why?
>>494678158
I can't believe these niggers took out Anila's U sheep chip setup but still haven't done shit about the Siegfried fireball > 214H > DP shit that is faster, doesn't need a BC to setup and is meterless.
>>494678705These are the people who looked at Charlotta's unarmored 27 start-up frames charged 2H and decided that what it needed to be useful is more reward on counter-hit.
i would let katalina hold, and possibly even crush, my nuts
>>494678705You can spot-dodge all of that. The reason Anila's was nerfed is because U sheep is undodgeable.
>>494679887You literally can't dodge any of that without getting hit by the next part retard. Not even the DP can be dodged consistently, it's active enough to beat dodge unless you time the dodge perfectly to the DP startup
Is anybody good playing and streaming Versusia or is she ass?Don't care if jp eu or na or whatever
>>494680175just BC
>>494680309just kys
>>494680305nobody streams our dogpiss game. go watch replays.
>>494680543
>>494680175You absolutely can dodge all of it. Obviously you can't dodge it on reaction, but that goes for most skills when you are in a chip kill situation. Anila's U sheep is undodgeable regardless of timing which gave it unavoidable chip kill setups, hence the nerfs. It's pretty clear they don't want any true check-mate situations in the game, they also nerfed all the true unblockable setups, including Siegs.
>>494680305we have a GM versusia in this general, join the lobby and play him
>>494680740whats his name? or versusia rank? im done playing for today but i could snipe some replays if he's good
>>494680717You cannot, it is literally checkmate. Post clip proving you can. For Anila's sheep you could always jump back after blocking the first sheep and avoid the last two.Belial also has a guaranteed chip setup they left in btw, but at least it needs 50 meter (like Anila's hmm, definitely no favoritism here).
damn im gangster as hell son
>>494680456if you can't BC it's because you are behind on brave crystal economy and need to make better macro decisions with your crystals. Actual skill issue.
>>494681106rank 3
>>494681347Evade is quite literally one of worst implementations of a defensive mechanic I have ever seen.
fearcels..
>>494681496I spent my crystals because I got bored of blocking. Next time I'll just block the sigger.
>>494681347>yeah, you predicted/reacted to me just throwing out shit but the best you get is that we both tech the throw because my shit has no recovery, heheh, no reward for patient play!many such cases in this dumb ass game.>inbe4 the reward is that they are now down 50% meterlemao
https://www.twitch.tv/teamcdw
ONSROTTO
yool fixes tonight please
>>494682626>Dub
>>494681851>block 1(one) attack>instantly BCgo play smash or something if you don't want to block
>>494682905Here's your fixed Yool bwo
>>494683341do not the fox
>>494683278No thanks, if I'm going to block anything it'll be the player for being a fraud.
>>494683392I didn't the fox. She's a human
>>494683474thank you
>>494683542put them back!
>>494683341She looks bald now. put them back...
>>494683542return the foxor suffer my curse
Once they nerf BC and 66L you guys will have no chance against me.
>>494683503>doesn't know how to block>calls others frauds
Now that your wife is only good for sex, what is your next move yoolbwos?
>>494683930having sex with her
>>494683930i will never give up on herbe nice to foxes
>>494683653>>494683731ok, here are he swords back>>494683737The fox is in the SSBA
>>494683809It's a fighting game, not a blocking game.
>>494683930>what is your next move yoolbwos?sex
>>494684143>mfw bc exists
>>494684143see me in tetris tag tournament and I'll show you some high level blocking
This is optimal Granblue Fantasy Versus.................................................................................Rising
>>494684591i think she's funnyi like when she makes those faces
>>494684634this clip literally LITERALLY might as well be taken from like top 8 of a tournamentabsolutely no difference
>>494684591what the fuck is her problem
>>494684634Kino, as god intended
>>494684687why would the keyblade choose her?
>>494684634This is a pretty good loop anon
>>494684687never cook again
>>494684897I think it's the best one I've made, but this is pretty good too. It's very lucky that the camera moves very little in these two because that ruins the illusion the fastest
>>494665893Retard.
>>494684143>>494684634>>494685181GOODASS GRANBLUEMAKE SOME NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOIIIIIIIIIIIIIIISE!
>>494664860leffen was right
game is done. 40 minutes and only matches were 3 200ms+ players
https://www.twitch.tv/teamcdwZeta in top 8 (Mexico)
en bubs sounds like a peddler trying to get you to buy his wings
HONTO NO TSUBASA YO
>>494679314You can use it in the corner I guess... It's now a decent move on-ground
>>494685538She lost
>>494685469euchud..
tranny char
>>494685538Fake stream, I'm the only Mexican who plays Granblue.
This is so fucking free for Elsa holy
>>494685952fewwy anon...
The tacos KNEEL to the trannies
>wake up ultimate laser point blankthe fuck? 2b carries so much players like this are in winners finals
>>494686276it's a meme tournamentwhy do you think elsa went there while everyone else went to ufa
Watched some random suggested replays and wtf is this combo? Pretty cool.
>>494686372a meme tournament compared to a real one but its still like a 50 player offline tournament
>Caster absolutely seething about gutted Nier
>>494686460of no notable players
Does Elsa even get something out of going to Mexico to curbstomp noobs?
>>494686548yeah and this absolute shitter 2b made it to winners finals
>>494686774yeah, it's a meme tournament
>>494686548Hey... I am there...
>>494686871no one cares about you
>>494686827yeah and this absolute shitter 2b made it to winners finals
>Charlotta yells Yay instead of YAAHHH in the dubwhat the fuck
>>494687024>>494686827
>Wake up ult ball out of cornerwhy the FUCK are Charlotta players like this?
>>494687173pretend i did the same thing2b carries btw
>Full Meter>3Bp>Does Auto combo into super and doesn't get the killwhat am I watching
how dare he pick a character I dislike
You know it's not a real tournament because no one is playing Belial
>>494686748It's a gold AWT event so points towards qualifying.
>>494687490elsa plays belial doebeitpicks nier against shitters
>>494686460look at the actual bracket. at least 60-70% of the players DQ'd lol
>shinku complaining about sieg dp live on streamyep, validated
>Standing up into the Charlotta airgrabI do that too...
These mexs are pretty bad. I can probably take 1st place as an eternal S++ to be honest.
>>494689665Elsa is there so you'd get washed.
>>494689665Isn't kof their thing? And still they're mid at it
>losers finals>S rank gameplayboth these players are absolute ass
EXCELENTEIMPOSSIBLE DE ESCAPARLUCHAR DE NUEVOREINCORPARACION
>>494690057if he does it with Nier that would be sick
sorry bwos but if this horrible 2B got "carried" through the tournament it just says a lot more about the other players than him...
>>494690482>this is a gold AWT eventI told you /gbvsg/ tourneys are the most prestigious events in the game
She Gran on my Blue till Im Rising
>>494691004But the tournament is always on the verge on dying because of lack of participants
>>494691318
>Charlotta vs Nier grand finalsIt's like I'm back in February... Xerom vs Zippy...
ELSA SISTERS??!!
Your FUCKING answer, /gbvsg/?
i think ferry is pretty
>that SBAyou're not playing Sieg bro...
The Erune-Human conversion has begun
Reminder that in Spanish, Lunalu is called Renard for some reason.
>>494694106she's trans. canon lore.
found the zoigooner
god i hate xwitter speak
>>494694384I don't want to respect the opinion of a Nier and Belial tierwhoreBUT he's right
>>494694384good taste, but fuck him for being a tierwhore
Koji it's okay to tier whore, money is on the line. Tier whore for tournaments, play fun characters on the side I always say!
>>494680717if a skill mandates you dodge it at the tail end of its start up is it not a reaction check?
66l nerfs in 45 minutes
>>494686871I care about you mexican ladiva.
>>494696314Buffs you mean. They nerfed the damage scaling off it too hard, it needs compensation.
>>494695294thank you. its been so long since ive seen a horse.
>>494695294epic
>>494696547finna dump my buffs down your throat lil pup
>>494695294actually not gbvsg related fuck off
>20 minutes of sitting on cab >non stop 230 ping opponentsPlease...I wanna play...
*dies*
>>494698497Un placer...
>>494698497ayyyy mis amigo
>>494698497This is a Mexican game bro
issa over..
https://youtu.be/WuMII8VkQukthis is how top players play? lol....
https://rising.granbluefantasy.jp/en/news/detail/?id=noj-flng8s
>>494701043This patch is so anemic
>>494701043niia buffed(fixed).
>>494701043>losing to a GM loses you more points than losing to another masterkek
>>494694565He's competing so I don't blame him. It's not like he isn't unapologetic about it.
>>494694384Absolute onion domination, no other female is as good as her
>>494701043Thank fucking god they fixed the shit.I lost so many matches because of this bug and nobody believed me when i told them because>Zeta
>>494701043I remember some anon mentioned this bug in the thread some time ago. But he wasn't sure if it was a balance chang.
>>494701043They forgot to nerf Ferry... wtf
>>494697218
>>494701837
>you can go 1/6 against a GM and be positive in pointsGM for everyone!
>>494701043There should be...more buffs...
THIS PATCH IS LITERALLY MADE FOR ME
>>494701043well at least i can link 236U and 214U into 22U consistently again. nvm that those skills are still useless and a waste of 50 meter to use in the first place, and the anti-air combos into them got fucked by the 2H change in 1.5
>>49470238610 months until evo.. dont worry.
>>494702884I'll wait in here for 10 months
*syilently fyart*nyahahaha...
I heard that...
>>494704903but did y
Ding dong
>get into Grandmasters by beating a GM once>immediately lose it by losing the next match>I won 2-1 but I'm still back in mastersManaged to get it back after the next set. Please give me the badge now.
>>494697218why do you hate your umafriends
>>494705953All those dropped Niers, turning to delinquency
umafriends owe me sex
i like twinks
>>494706217>We have GranGOD Master in the thread nowIncredibly based
>>494711078
>enter NA lobby>a literal troon discussing HRT on chatyou can't make this shit up
Are you ready for the patch to give us that summer Perci skin we have been waiting for?
Did they fix Yuel?
when are they fixing the game? the big meaty flopped.
>white zoi skincriminal
>>494718839Deedlit Zoi looks greator whatever the color is supposed to be
>>494718839>>494719193ZoiTwo looks great too.
>>494715354There's just too much shit wrong with the game to ever truly fix it. Ultimate skills, Delay 2L, 66L and BC are just the tip of the iceberg. The game's design has never been focused around making a balanced game, but rather a game that's accessible to gacha players. Why else do you think so much of the GBVSR playerbase seethes at the game and constantly calls it shit relative to other games?
But is Luci really THAT strong? I mean sure, at BL5 he's a god, but he has to play the whole match before that part with very punishing cooldowns and a reversal that costs 50 meter. Surely that matters a little?
>>494722915he can get to BL5 within the first 15-20 seconds of a match
>>494723018Bro, your offense?
>>494723058that's how he gets to BL5, he just throws out safe specials.At BL3 his cooldowns are comparable and even faster than other characters.It's not that complicated lucischizo. I'm sorry that 2 Lucis made top 8 at the EU tournament so you can no longer cry about no results.
>>494722869>other games
