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Seele!

Shiteele!

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Threesome with Mobius and Ruan Mei. Ignore the faggot.

>have a formula for a game that your niche audience enjoys
>slowly change it to appeal to a "wider audience"
>it's shit and your core fanbase now hates you

>he's back
I missed you bro

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Roll

>>494676041
after the big announcement of HSR and HI3 collab that's to be expected.
just ignore him

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I guess I am the only one who pulled for teri...

i am saving
for bita

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>>494675213
>mfw instead of doing the DMC crossover, they made APHO into another game instead
Why?

>>494679669
I missed you DMCbro

>>494677219
collab when

>>494682341
I remembered they didn't do a collab last year, they did one in 2020, 2021 and 2022.

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>>494676457
this thread has been nothing but a dumping ground of persistent shitposters from other Mihoyo threads for the past 2 years. Now that the thread is deader than ever with all of the oldheads leaving, it's been nothing but constant samefagging from the same shitstirring individuals. It's frustrating to see the game die like this. Mihoyo is trying to resuscitate a game based on an extremely shaky and barely thought out premise that is Part 2. Roastchicken might make a good arc out of this, but nothing changes the fact thag Part 2 is awful because it was made to appeal to people who don't indulge in otaku culture.

I'm worried that the HSR collab will embolden them to double down on the Chinese Mars thing and pull the rug out from the veteran players for the second time.

>>494682556
I thought the GGZ Flamechasers collab was last year

>>494675592
>>494675216
Danke!

>>494677219
No way. Are we doing this badly?

>>494684691
Last year in japan that is like a year behind CN.

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>>494675405
!eleeS

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Cum flavored? Cum flavored.

>>494684885
Part 2 was so bad, it made a significant portion of veterans to drop Honkai Impact and pick up GGZ again. No sane Chink will ever admit that they're turned off from the game because it's starting to resemble that of bad D-list Chinese MMORPGs in terms of Part 2's design direction and artistic philosophy as it's taboo and borderline illegal to criticize anything Chinese, but it is indeed a common sentiment in the CN playerbase. Ex-CN players would oftentimes state the current aesthetic direction of the game as their primary reason to why they quit. Of fucking course they won't just tell everyone they don't like how Chinky the game looks now, but that's basically what they're saying.

tldr: Not even the Chinese likes state-mandated Chinkified designs.

>>494686360
I am gonna be the odd one out by saying I liked the asthetics of lanqui

>>494686360
It'd be fine if it was just the one arc but it seems like we're going back in

>>494686579
Aren't we going back to the original story line and leaving the shus behind?

>>494686681
They showed some preview of the next area and it looks chinky to me, idk if after that we just go back but for now it doesn't seem like it's happening yet

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>>494686681
no. Though it seems like the next map is somewhat resembling that of a Japanese cyberpunk Kyoto type of aesthetic. The Map's named Reimu in Chinese

>>494687413
It looks very Wuthering waves

New Teri's style is pretty fun desu, was a bit hard without Sena but I survived this time (+/- 0)

>>494687493
Now that you mentioned it, I'm starting to think Part 2 was initially made as a reaction to Wuthering Waves. Roughly right around after CBT 2 was launched, I vaguely remember that Mihoyo immediately opened several hundred job applications for Honkai Impact. The botched rushed release in February, several weeks before WuWa went live, was probably done in an attempt to steal its thunder. I do hope they make Reimu more Japanese like in their teasers. Wuthering Waves is already running out of steam and it would really suck if they are planning to make the whole of Part 2 exclusively Chinese by design.

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ruined

>>494689452
Your teacher doesn't look like this?

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On one hand, it is sad to see her tying things up for her funeral. On the other hand, HI3, stop beating around the bush. Also I have learned just to ignore Baiji's lines since it is impossible to understand

>>494689452
my class monitor looks like this

>>494690768
*coughs*

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>>494690768

>>494691075
>>494691029
I don't know, but one can guess

>>494684885
Honkai 3rd has shifted from a mobile game to a PC game, even in Chinkland. We know from the revenue reports that 3rd makes at least half it's income from PC.

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Where is my zombie Sena boss?

>>494691448
that still roughly estimates around 2 million every month on the CN server alone, which is bad for a game like this that keeps bleeding players for the past 8 months.

>>494691838
Honkai earned roughly $35 Million in the first 6 months of this year.

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This is her rape face, right?

>>494692017
most of that revenue were from the 7.8 launch, which was around $10-15 million in all servers. It kept dropping every single month ever since. And no, I am almost sure the one you're referencing had 8 months worth of data, not 6.

I just rewatched the knee to the face, it is still beautiful.

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Do we have an edit of Sena with dog ears and fluffy tails?

The start of chapter 3 started out with light hearted interactions between characters, which most anons enjoyed. Then it got into the mumble jumble. I recall now why I hated this part of the story.

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>>494692062

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Does it kill Mihoyo to have symmetrical clothing? Or not showing off her underwear?

I like how the pause menu uses the old UI so half assed

>>494696486
>Does it kill Mihoyo to have symmetrical clothing?
someone in the dev team is probably watching too many vtubers
>Or not showing off her underwear?
they should do this more often

>>494676405
I would pay 500€ to have this semen demon on HSR

>>494696686
>>494696486
I am surprised it is not a princess dress

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>>494696775
soon(que)

>>494697290
Lovely!

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Would you?

>>494698012
primed for rape

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Kiana's new gun looks so good.

>>494698795
I can't even tell what i'm looking at

>>494699163
there are two naked valkyries in that picture

>>494698795
Mei and Bronya?

Will this game unironically be saved once it receives an injection of millions of players from the HSR collab?

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The gameplay of these original suits is some proper jank, but it's kind of nice to have simple controls

>>494700545
probably not if it's just sparkle but if they put like kiana and elysia in hsr maybe people will come try it

>>494700545
Part 2 kind of fucked up the new player experience so I dunno that they would stick around. And aren't events locked until you hit high enough account level anyway? Even if it's easy to hit I'd imagine a fair portion would see that and bounce.

>>494700545
genshin collab didn't change anything, this one won't be any different.

>>494685096
they might have skipped the collab entirely on the JP server. I don't really see 01niang collabbing with any of the part 2 characters. I do see more ZZZ references than anything nu-Honkai related in the official GGZ promotionals. I think I saw one promotional art with Tiara holding a faceless Bangboo plush. The map of New Eridu also looks like New Nagazora. I have a suspicion that 01niang is maybe involved in ZZZ scriptwriting department.

>>494703092
They did do it last year, it was weird seeing ggz trending in Japan for a day.

>>494678521
I pulled her. But i'm 40 pulls in weapon banner I got nothing. Since release I have never got a single early weapon. All weapons I hit were 5 or less pity.

My Teri is staying hidden in the basement until a rerun.

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I literally bricked my account and there's no way to fix it. I've been filtered by agony I's first node for a month now. what do I even do at this point? this team is what I've been facerolling dailies with since thier release and it doesn't work anymore.

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>>494705120
have you tried using a team that doesn't do 30% less damage in QUA weather?

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Roastchicken's old pseudonym avatar is cute.

fuck stealth

>>494705470
I don't know anything about team comps because what I used for a full year before those 3 was PE (featuring various buffers) and the year before that it was all ice rita. I don't even know how to use most of the suits I rolled stigs and weapons for. I've got nothing.

>>494706548
Good news I guess? Kiana gets a new weapon next patch. Roll that and you can keep using her. Roll bita too if you can.

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>>494675213
So does Elysia have any official nudes like Firefly?

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>>494707943
Is it time to post nude Elysia or Kiana groping Mei?

>>494707943
her in-game model has a hidden cameltoe. I don't have the jaypeg at hand though

thelemass

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>>494707943
From her animated short.

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>frogposting twitter immigrant from November 2022 /hig/
I thought they were petty schizoramblings at first but wow, you guys weren't lying. G*nsh*nFAGGOTS ruined any Mihoyo-related discussion on this website, and probably everywhere else too.

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>>494708107
Nude Elysia please. I already have Kiana bathtime shenanigans with Mei

>>494698795
She has to finger them to shoot

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>>494710595

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Seele!
And Buronya onee-chan!

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TRAILER
https://www.bilibili.com/video/BV1Z1tKeCEBn/

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>>494714097

>>494715451
This evil woman will mess up Senadina

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>>494715451

I think Seele SUCKS

>>494715302
that all seems like an overreaction but i guess thats what react content is for

>>494716281
it's kinda funny that most started out with Genshin lmao.

>>494715524
She didn't deserve this...

>>494715451
that smug face makes me feel things.

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its over, my triple seele team didnt make it... and i forgot to login closer to the closing time to get a better score

>>494715451
I keep getting the feeling that she's a herrscher of corruption
But I don't know why Vita is trying to get rid of her

>>494715524
giwtwm

>>494718598
calm down sena

>>494718089
isn't mars supposed to be stuck in dormancy? In that there is something on Mars that was hindering the samsara to restart?

>>494718770
In that "interlude" chapter in 7.2 Cocoon of Unwoven already said that the Mars bubble universes started moving again after "the embrace was completed"/Kiana became hofi
And if anything, whatever is going on in the Mars simulation should be very contained in itself, basically like ER

>>494719425
so this is basically Vita playing Simulated Universe? How exactly will these simulation runs be the key to Mars being revitalized if whatever happens inside of it is self-contained?

>>494719997
Well I said it's self-contained, but for Mei and the others the goal by fucking around with the Mars terminal is trying to get Kiana to wake up, because they have the hunch that might be it.
So I'm thinking that maybe Cocoon of Unwoven is also "stuck in the dream"/the simulation and waking Kiana up would simultaneously wake CoU up, which would make sense considering CoU contacted Kiana right when they both ended up being in the same dream.
Maybe some bullshit like
>evil dreamseeker (>>494715451) put CoU/Sena in a forced dream to protect her

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>>494717730
Nyooo...

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#1002

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#1003

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>>494720653
I still have no idea how they'd link this with APHO. Maybe they could bullshit the timeline of events since time in the quantum space doesn't correspond with reality or something within those lines. Maybe they'd do the same thing with what Durandal did and anchor all Mars bubble worlds. I doubt they've thought this through at all. Things are getting so convuluted we might see rewrites again

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>>494721479
>Seeri best girl

>>494721479
>seeri best girl
>hsr seele hi3 sex chapters
collab story confirmed

>sena finally yandere
7.8 main story big reveal

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Seele!

They really should have made APHO non-canon/AU. It doesn't really add much value, and in fact railroads the plot as we know and are forced to stick a vague end goal.

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"Seele"!

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Today I will remind them
>they unironically didn't think ahead and removed any idea of a summer beach event for this year
>we will never get any valentines, beach, and Christmas/Winter events ever again

Part 2 is made with the HSR/G*nsh*n normalfags in mind. Never forget that. I am now more than adamant to drop this game after the Vita banner. Not even Roastchicken can save this trashpile if they are this determined to ignore any in-game holiday events from now on.

>>494728245
>>we will never get any valentines, beach, and Christmas/Winter events ever again
When was the last time we got each of those events?

>>494729164
literally last year before the Fu Hua arc.

>>494729354
"each of those", anon

>>494729354
Remind me

>Everyone jobbed again and need a rewind
sigh

That Sera is really cute during Soul Healing section

mating press sera

>>494719997
she can overlay the simulated universe to reality

>>494728245
>Valentines
>Christmas
We didn't have any proper event like that for many years now, nothing new.

>b-but Slopchasers summer event
AU shit with dead characters and reruns don't count so it was two years ago.

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>>494729421
>>494729461
>Valentines
The Susannah event is vaguely within those lines considering how much she gushes over her superiors
>Summer/Halloween
both Luna Kindred events
>Summer/Thanksgiving
Captainverse ending

>>494730667
yeah, no wonder the game is dying. Even the average bog standard Chinese not-yurige have Valentines day events. Why should this game be treated like HSR and G*nsh*n? It will only continue to bleed players if they keep doing this.

>official captions translate dawei to david
lol

>>494731918
Isn't it supposed to be the David Jiang?

>>494731964
how should I know

>>494731964
it is, david is the head producer for the honkai games after all

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>>494715451
Big

>>494735243
is chapter 4 out now?

>>494735368
yes

>>494715524
Oh how the turntables

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bear love

>>494715524
>"Local Bully not so tough after being molested!"

so is this gonna be like HoV arc of part 2 I haven't caught up

>>494735243
Any better resolution?

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60NCIDW

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>>494715524
>Tags:Instant Loss

>>494737385
60 hard pity for anon. I only got up to 59 for Songque's.

Skipping bita, skipping sparkle (lie) , saving for me (forma la anti entropy)

>>494736391
uhhh i think so, but unironically i think the open world will make it way lamer because shit can't happen the way it could with stages

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Seele going on another adventure!

What can I buy for 5 dollars?

>>494738772
SEELE!

>>494738772
A parfait

>>494738820
Rude.
Seele is a Virgin.

Virgineele

>>494739260
"Seele"...

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>>494739743
Then how do you explain THIS

>>494740374
They should stop fighting.

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>>494740374

>apparently that sparkle-like silhouette in part 2 chapter 4 was real and not just an edit

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>>494740868
Pic
Depending on how you answer, the person appearing here changes, so you might not see her

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>>494740374

>>494741287
Wait that's real?
Thought the guy who posted it said it's an edit.

>>494741287
wtf

I forgot to do realms of battle...

>Ch4: Press X to SENA

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it's dangerous to go alone

>>494743071
I need a mating partner.

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Get in line

>>494744980
How many of them will bring a metal bat with them during their respective face-to-face chat?

>>494745163
I don't know but Seele will surely bring cakes!

I can't believe Seele is fatter than Elysia!

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>>494746556
In all the right places!

>>494746556
Captain impregnated her!

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Why are you people still willingly get abused like this? Mihoyo even has the greatest intent to replace all of you with newfag secondaries from HSR. We are never leaving Mars. They have in full intent to celebrate nothing but Chinese New Years every single year. You will never have anything good again.

The character interactions will be half-baked and safe enough for normalfags to tolerate. Yeah sure, Vita will be an exception, but none of the Martians will be like her. Why are you still willing to play this game? I'm not being faceitous here like the other schizos, I am sincerely asking. I just want someone to convince me why I shouldn't quit the game yet.

I'm so sick at being treated as the end of the stick. Why do I have to accomodate newfags? Why do the opinions of hypothetical players matter more than actual players? I am so fucking frustrated.

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>>494747178
>Why are you still willing to play this game?

>>494747178
I'm a newfag desu
Give me your einstein toruses before uninstalling, I need them

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not spunkle...

>>494747178
Spacing suggests a reddit post copy paste, any and all opinions disregarded

>>494747684
I wish I could give you some of mine, I'm sitting on a little under 600 and could part ways with a few

>>494747601
fair, I love Seele too but I am really really really really really really almost at my limit. Seeing how stark the difference ggz players (ex-captains) are being treated by their devs versus what we are getting is absolutely mindboggingly frustrating.

>>494747684
not planning on quitting yet. I still have to grind for Bita. I'm just miffed out by their insistance in pushing this new direction at the expense of older players. A fuckton of shit that needed to be fixed are just either deleted or plastered with downgrades like the valkyrie selection UI and the co-op modes.

>>494748032
retard

>>494747178
90% of shit in your post is pure speculation.

We are finally getting back on track now that we know what the hell is even going on. You can shit on first three chapters of Part 2 however you like, but they needed them to establish the whole plot.
Introductions in fiction are always the most boring and worst shit you have to go through. Same thing happened with Part 1 so I don't know why you doomfags are suddenly having a meltdown over it.

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the good ol luring shus in a candy space ship trick

SeRAPEum

>>494715451
So what do we think of 蕾耶拉(Leylah)?

>>494748516
I bet little Sera doesn't know that wearing a blindfold while sucking on a lollipop enhances its flavor.

>>494748439
I just want to get it out of my system. I'm still upset that we have to go through those 8 months of pure hell of uncertainty.

I wanna fuck Sera so bad

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>>494748952
Only with Thelema-Samas permission

>>494747178
>>494748219
HSRfags don't even want to touch HI3 because it's an ancient zombie game and mihoyo even stopped showing HI3 on gamescom.
This collab will be pure fanservice for us and Mihoyo knows this. They tried to push some new direction with Part 2, but they failed spectacularly and now they even "deleted" the male MC from the game. The game is healing.
So yeah, from my point of view it doesn't look like older players will be flooded by newfags any time soon. Just like no one cared about Genshin collab.

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>>494749269
Thelema-sama is the one who should be asking for our permission

>>494749649
>Visible ass crack
Our sister could NEVER

>>494749649
We really have been robbed of her pants

>>494750484
Skirt is better

>>494748643
She is perfect. Designed in a lab to appeal to the Homura enjoyer and they even synced this up to come out on the same day as the new Madoka trailer.

>>494749649
>that thong peek
that's too powerful

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https://x.com/addlechicken/status/1835533109003207101

>>494750484
>>494750675
Time for some half pants half skirt.

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Sera's shitty isekai... and Bita lore

>>494751550
Isn't that the Teri event? Night God is her username?

>>494751974
it's sera's pen name

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https://x.com/m_mirimete/status/1835600046773108949

>>494752997
Socks.

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>>494751409
Are those...?

how were they planning on doing the evil dreamseeker plotline with the man version

>>494753731
Did you fall for the "they deleted male mc and are going back to their roots!" narrative or something
They write the story like 1 year in advance. They never planned on making a "male evil dreamseeker", because the female one was always the "real" one, while the male one was simulation-only

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>>494753731

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Who knows

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thanks dawei...

>>494753731
Instead of edge over a stolen can of deenz, Maleseeker's edge will come from rage over Mars' shitty hardware and improper memory safety practices

>>494753731
BITCHES AND WHORES

>>494737385
I mean... I'm really short on cubes right now...

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>>494754958
if you want them, you need to become them

Who will die to stop mars HoV?

>>494755349
The game.

>>494755349
Helia hopefully
>hi3 in 2024
>playable character dying
LMEOW it's gonna be Baiji

>>494754148
Male DS is tied to Ajita's plotline so I expect it to be relevant later on when she shows up again after she finishes downloading more ram.

>>494754148
they probably made a fuckton of major rewrites along the way after they saw the backlash from February. Judging from the things they did with other game, they've rewritten Penacony at least three times, with the earliest concept being completely thrown away. They also scrapped what could have been Penacony at launch but some fucking niggerfaggot leaked the entirety of the script back in August last year. Part 2 was only in development for 6 months.

>>494755751
>when she shows up again
Mars was destroyed 1 billion years ago. I really doubt her real self is ever gonna show up

>>494755995
Bruh, we have multiple people from 50k years ago, Vita and Marah from even before that (with Sa from god knows how longer and only got taken over by Sa recently), and you think 1 billion years ago is going to be an issue (even though it's not billion years but much shorter)?

>>494755819
>they probably made a fuckton of major rewrites along the way
What do you think they changed?

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>>494755457
>Killing of Helia who is a non-character only ever used in Comedy relief
Baby tier shit, you're not even trying, kill the Dog, she's the only member of the Trio that has any semblance of character so her death will at least have SOME effect on the player

>>494756278
>and you think 1 billion years ago is going to be an issue
yes
If Ajita really fucked off from the Mars bubble worlds then she woudn't have been affected by time stagnating there, i.e. she would have aged normally since she's a normal human, unlike Vita/Sa/Marah who are not biological humans.
You can make the argument that she could have split up her consciousness into objects and survived that way but then the question of whether that could still be considered ajita would pop up

Should I do the tower defense event before reading Chapter 4?

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>trailer released 10 hours ago
>that many views
Vita and Dreamseeker are about to save the game

>>494758464
There are no spoilers for the main story in the event, you're safe

>>494756773
who knows. I did notice the pacing being all over the place in chapter 2, so they might have started rushing the whole Seven Shus thing with all of the negative feedback they got from the launch.

>>494758464
If you like bita

but now we have TEN shus

>>494758162
Everyone in the bubble world had agreed that Ajita is probably the one person that can survive without her physical body. The fact that she can arbitrary go to Mercury to make more ram shows she is not normal at all.

>>494758680
That's just bots pumping up the numbers. Part 2 still sucks, no one cares about hags, EoS soon.

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Era of Seele!

>>494760583
Where the FUCK were the bots for the other trailers then? Clearly the people yearn for more Evil woman content

The bots? They're all me

>>494760920
The bots came from HSR side since they need HI3 to survive until the collab is done first.

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All me

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>>494762686
Or you know, there could be genuine excitement because the trailer makes it look like something interesting is going to happen.

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Why does life slumber?

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>>494764875
>Songque is the only one that wasn't "harmed" in the video by Leylah because she actually likes and cares about her
damn..

Don't the collab or the mech distract you from the fact that there is still no animated short for Part 2

>>494765581
Chapter 5 will deliver, trust

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>no animated short
>but they have money to commission this
https://www.bilibili.com/video/BV1R849eKE8h/
Why are they like this?

>>494765581
Now remind me during which chapter HI3, GI and HSR got their first animated short.

>>494763151
Bro, your sense of humor?

>>494765581
There wasn't one for part 1.5 either we've gotten used to it.

>>494766034
They do it for free

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They are fucking in every single universe.

>>494767576
meds

>>494767576
They are relatives, sex in those conditions would be immoral and wrong

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>start chapter 4
>ds goes SENA SENA SENA SENA SENA

Funny how dreamseeker is saving the game by stopping being the dreamseeker and having a name.

>>494768365
Segs at the start of the chapter? DAMN

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>>494768365
What are you insuniating? Dreamseeker is just very worried about Sena since no one else remembers her

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>>494768793
I'm saying that she is schizophrenic, what did you think I meant?

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>>494768987
Ah, my apologies "me", i must contemplate on the thought process, which has led to my wrong conclussion about your statement and remedy it

The Chinese are NOT happy that we didn't get a big titty red headed Hua.

>>494769637
Nobody likes hua, thats why she flopped

Did they beef up ER to keep up with Part 2 numbers? i don't remember Lantern taking so long to clear

>>494771190
It's nothing new. They gradually increase the HP over time.

>>494770753
The only reason Hua flopped was that she wasn't a support.

>>494771190
Her prime time in ER probably just ran out, which build are you using?

>>494769802
Venusbros...

hua love

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>in this cycle the seven shus are a story songque made up
>which means she made herself thelemas bitch on purpose
what does this imply

>>494771318
Vill-V+Sakura+Kalpas perma low health dmg boost, admiteddly scuffed since Su does wonders for her as does Eden, but even scuffed runs prior did more damage

>>494771709
None of it is real to begin with. She didn't do shit, no one did shit. The entire first set of chapters are utterly pointless.

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>we've returned to tradition
I miss stages

>>494772232
>>we've returned to tradition
they're not replayable though because FUCK you

>>494772297
Replaying stages costs energy which is still fucked, i can't just play through a whole chapter or two since that will fuck my ability to sweep expeditions and "Open world" tasks, raising the energy cap to 240 won't slove shit unless they reduce expedition and open world task costs

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I've heard Sena more times in 15 minutes then i think the whole of part 2 so far

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what a faggot

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Is she supposed to sleep in the cell like that? That's just torture for the sake of it

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>>494774404
epic chink meme reference

>>494772754
How do you not have a surplus of stamina?
I do 12x5 for expeditions daily and only 4+ core tasks and still overcap on most days
And then I also have several thousand stam in the form of drinks, but that doesn’t apply to newfags

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>A fucking stealth section
Why do they insist on this shit?

>>494771190
4min clear time is too long? Thats how long it took me last night

>An invisible wall
MIYAZAKI!!!!

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Please give us your SongQQ aka Lil-Phantylia as a collab character, hig bros!

>>494779396
You can have Litost instead
Take it or leave it

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>>494779615
Don't be mean, he came over from /hsrg/ and asked nicely

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>>494779396
I would be willing to roll for her agin

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>>494779615
>Just googled him
Holy shit that's literally HIM.
We don't need third Kevin though so please provide chinese slutties instead!

>>494781219
so which homotranny demanded males? baiji?

>>494781219
So it really is as simple as installing more RAM

>>494773820
Can't be helped. We're playing the role of a yandere so expect to hear her mentally repeat Sena's name over and over again like it's her beloved senpai.

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Those three short stories written by Sera were pretty good actually.

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save

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is this actually supposed to be a sparkle easter egg
the jp VA sounds too different, sparkle doesn't have an ahoge and the personality here doesn't even come close

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SAVE

>>494783017
Didn't that one NPC from the cafe event have a similar look? Could be her too I guess.

>>494783017
they're just generic silhouettes for the personality types being offered

>>494783214
that's me though

>>494783214
I DO NOT WANT TO SAVE HER (ME), I LIKE HER (ME) BROKEN JUST LIKE THAT

>>494783214
What will she do when she finally finds Sena again?

>>494784401
rape

>>494784401
Place her in a guilded cage

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>>494786327
Shut up Sunday

>>494784401
Trap her in a fake world where she can never leave but will be happy and content no matter what.

>>494786680
so.. the mars computer

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>>494784401

>>494787486
>I'll show you who's boss of this gym

Did anyone besides homu labs do a good summary/overview of the current p2 chapters?

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>>494789131
People make videos about part 2?