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>>494974380

https://youtu.be/-13LUfagQhY?si=7IJA2eUmFAesOR7B

Kevin ate the fucking code again.

Driving/flying mobile base is almost done lads. Electrical + one arcane engine that just werks.
Are there any tools that must be installed and cannot be held in hand? Fridge already included.

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>>494974380

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>find out that you apparently cannot join the "evil" faction in open-world Qud
>read bit further and find out that you cannot join any of the "evil" factions
>read even further and find out that only a single faction yields the win condition
what the shit
when is Quasimorph going on sale again

>>494994494
Tranny furries don't want you to do anything with a humanist faction. You can and should kill them, of course.

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>>494995479
Enjoying my religious freedom to desecrate corpses, summon demons and be racist in tru-DCSS.
YWNBAO

reject racism
embrace mycus
become one with the fungus

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I'm gonna be so mad if I die and eventually lose all of this

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That lost empty slot in my mobile base came in clutch, remembered I can install an autodoc in a car. Replaced my seat with an autodoc couch because it's a valid form of seating. Life is good lads, now only to transfer all my items into the car and hope I can lift off in the end.
This baby has everything I need and more.
Autoclave and autodoc for my bionic needs, couch to operate, drive from and sleep in. All the tools packed in two boards and a hatch for easy access without going inside the base if needed. Two large trunks full of everything and anything. A fridge for food and a table for crafting. It can drive and it can fly, running fully off of solar and arcane energy. Everything is plated with superalloy and all inside spaces have shock absorbers.
The only thing missing is turrets, once I get to that this baby will be magic.

>>494999849
oh shit
how's the dungeon crawling in this?

>>495001680
Same as Elona. If you unlock the Advance Adventurer License, dungeons become scaling indefinitely. Even at Early Access, the Void and its evils exist.

>>494974380
Thanks for making the new thread

>>494999849
Wait wait, what the hell's this

>>495003356
Welcome

>>495003472
looks like Elona

>>495004053
I don't remember Elona looking like that

>>495001827
Is it leaked or something?

>>494994494
Roguelikes are never on sell, because you can't find them on steam.

>>495005648
After a bit of digging. Early access for kickstarter backers apparently.

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>>495005648
as >>495008741 pointed out, just a Beta Playtest for backers. Early Access is on November 1. Lorewise, it's a prequel to Elona, and it's expected to introduce the entire world of Ylva and not just North or South Tyris, which is just 1 continent and as featured in Elona+

>>495008741
didn't know kickstarter was still a thing
>>495010071
freaking Elin, couldnt remember the name for the life of me

>>494994494
Did any of those sources you read bother to explain what they meant by "joining" a faction? Like, you can get a positive relationship with any faction, including the Putus Templar, but that presumably doesn't count.

>>494974581
whats the better version of CDDA?

>>495019714
https://github.com/cataclysmbnteam/Cataclysm-BN/releases

>>495023642
How is it different exactly? And does it mean it doesnt have the new content that main CDDA has since it is a variant?

>>495027851
Just download it and start playing, you'll notice how much more fun it is

>>495027851
DDA has no new content, the devs are too obsessed with mechanical overhauls to make the game more tedious to write content.

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Thoughts on the idea of a roguelike without combat? There would still be monsters, but the player isn't a warrior and can't fight at all. Instead you have to use consumables and skills to outmaneuver monsters. Stuff like banana peels, door wedges, ziplines, sticky slime.
Basically like a Bugs Bunny roguelike

>>495044434
To add on:
I've been thinking about this for a minute and I think it would actually work pretty well. It solves some problems too. No killing means no option of grinding (but raises the question of how the player grows in strength), hunger is unnecessary since eventually you'll run out of evasive resources if you stay too long on a floor, already visited floors aren't empty (and wandering monsters spawning from nowhere aren't needed) since the original inhabitants will always be there.
It also has some interesting space for reimagining old ideas. Secret doors and passages for example could be unknown to the monsters, so seaeching for secrets has the bonus of giving the player a little hideaway they can use to be safe. Pickpocketing skills which are normally useless (just kill the monster then take its stuff) become useful (no other way to get items from monsters)
It's fun to think about. I might make a little prototype when I have time

>>495044434
So a SS13 Clown roguelike? If it's goofy I would play it.

>>495045285
Yeah exactly

>>495045510
That sounds fun, to an extent. How exactly would you progress? What kind of playstyles would there be? It seems more like an idea for a one-off playthrough than a roguelike.

>>494994494
>Game goes against the right-wing dominated gaming space
>Gets shit on constantly
>Still does relatively well

>>495045892
Progression would be pretty normal. You find items in the dungeon, but instead of them being weapons and armor they're either consumables like banana peels or equipables which give some sort of bonus (e.g. an earhorn that lets you sense monsters around corners, a disguise that makes monsters not notice you for a couple turns when they first see you, polevaulting pole for jumping across gaps and oger monsters)
For playstyles it does seem more limited. Maybe consumable/trap focused play vs equipment/skills focused play. I'd have tot hink about it more

Got food poisoning and spent entire day on a john
Roguelike equivalent of this?
Don't say dda

>>495046648
I would say nethack but in that game you'd either instantly die or gain fire ressitance

>>495044434
That's what happens if you do a Solo Snail Tourist Run in Elona

>>495044434
Check out Sulphur Memories: Alchemist if you haven't already done so. There's a demo on the itch page

>>495046410
There's also the problem of enemy variety. Not attacking means that concepts like hp, armor, and on death effects can't be used to differentiate monsters. Since you're not fighting them their attacks aren't as important either.
They have to be different based on how they chase you and how they can be fooled I guess

>>495046141
Games with identity politics do well as long as the game is fun and you don't actually shove the political message down people's gullet

>>495046924
Never tried elona, but I might do this
>>495046932
Looks cool, thanks for the recommendation

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>>495027851
It's sort of like DDA from three years ago. No pockets, no frozen mushy food, not quite as many stamina meters.

>>495046141
Perhaps it would have done more than "relatively" well if it had actual gameplay instead of gay deer village walking sim quests.

>>495047431
At least you can nuke the deer in that quest, even though it bugs the game oit because the devs are faggots

>>495047863
Nuking things in an empty game simply isn't very fulfilling.

>>495048815
Agreed, Qud is shit

>>495046141
>be crypto-jew
>get a sseth review before you come out as a full blown jew with a pedophile criminal record
>"Pedojewbros, we won!"
The only thing Qud accomplished was proving pirates right. Never pay money for video games.

>>495051341
Unless that game is named Soulash, of course.

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shut the fuck up, retard shill.

Did sseth dodge the draft ?

>>495044434
isn't this the plot of Sil

>>495058301
migrants aren't drafted

https://store.steampowered.com/news/app/333640/view/6973349936528070885

Qud launch soon, price going up

>15 years to add an ending to their game
'kin hell

>>495063142
See >>495052713

>>495068687
There's currently a 10% sale running on Steam, too. That means the game will nearly double in price at launch. All my riggly bros should buy in now as it would be most quetzal of you

Buy an ad

>>495069114
Buy and ad? When I'm merely informing like-minded roguelike enjoyers about upcoming news and price increases on the greatest roguelike ever made? You're a silly poster, anonymous. As silly as many of the things seen in Caves of Qud, premium science fantasy roguelike

>expecting wokies to buy an ad when they're all brokies

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>>495044434
there is Kunoichi
but it's all maneuvers

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>>495069404

Good night, /rlg/

>>495077309
Based melanin enriched poster

>>495077309
not gonna download spyware, as a rogueliker of good morals, it is my duty to purchase a legal digital copy with drm of my favorite roguelike on the video-ludic game online distributor steam dot com

>>495084907
Niggers aren't tech literate enough to pirate. Case in point: >>495086848

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Legitimately one of the best games ever made.

>>495087878
I really should play more of that. I bought a PS5 and I enjoy it when I play it but I always just settle in at my computer and play my autism games instead

>>495087424
I want to inform you that despite being cursed by Yakub (pbuh), I have a degree in Ebonic anthropology, Ebonic comparative civilisation ethnography, and Ebonic interpretative dance, and Ebonic linguistic, so that does make me partially a black male on a spiritual and intellectual level

Is stair-dancing considered as abuse of RL systems or it's a problem of the genre that you just have to accept?

>>495087878
What is this? This art looks very nice.

>>495090878
It's a consequence of combat that balances action against position poorly, thus forcing you to engage in various defensive gimmicks that limit enemy positioning.

>>495093223
Is there any RL that implemented good solutions/alternatives to avoid it?

>>495093798
Rift Wizard solves it pretty well by showing you the exact contents of the next levels, and allowing you to start anywhere within the level you choose.

>>495088324
kek
>>495090878
>castle stairwells designed for defense
plz nerf
>>495093798
DCSS stairs are great risk/reward
>>495096130
not roguelike

>>495090878
Returnal. I’m not sure what those anons are on about though, it’s a thoroughly mid game and at best it’s a roguelite

Javelins make a small noise (4), useful for luring. Stones are too quiet (2) unless adjacent.

For Red Sonja, DDAr worships Makhleb to exploit mMP surplus. DDAr can only afford to train the minimum: Evo, Invo, Axes, Dodging, Fighting. He can't afford spells, stealth or ballistics. He needs to be an efficient tank to keep Makhleb piety maxed.

Stabbing beyond visual range:
7. Charm jelly and yak. Order yak into its room and jelly north. Trap yak.
8. Retreat jelly south to eat two doors, from tile north of Veh.
9. Release yak to guard, so he will stab (kill?) sleeping Sonja.

This clarified that the purpose of FoAM's sense monster is ally stabbing with Hep (hexer) and Inner Flame. FoAM polearm killholes and swaps with ancestor while it regens. Hep add mobility, and drained foes are easier to hex.

Thus KoCj is Xom, exploiting gourmand to play slowly and reap more Xom boons. Lack of SInv is mitigated by Magic Dart and Fulminant Prism. KoCj relies on abandoning and rejoining altars to entertain Xom, and isn't guaranteed a chaos weapon anyway. KoCj weathers Xom wrath in Abyss with Jiyva.

The god1 swap suits Ko's stronger Evo and Fo's stronger Invo.

The best DCSS learning path is definitely
1. tutorial
2. GnWn thru Orc 2 from pre-mut 6 to Missing Eye 1 -- learn basic game elements
3. Red Sonja DDAr from maphack to Missing Eye -- basic skilling, advanced shopping, OOD and micro tactics

I suspect #4 is Menkaure's Violet Keep, which appears to favor GhFi Makhleb, another good beginner species.

The only other Red Sonja YouTube playthrough is MRG's blind GnFE, demonstrating it's far too easy on normal difficulty. He won't be hard to beat. DDAr's Heal Wounds is basically inexhaustible.

Final bosses:
Lerny: If lair door closed, stealth+fog, open and run. Wake with noise and lure out of water with lesser demons.
Tiamat: Torment, heal, all Greater Demons, acid, Fan, or vuln+charm+Lom Lobon then cancel+orbrun.
Greater Demons dig and smite, countering grates.

don't care

>>495093798
Maidensnow rewards you with additional combat resources and reduced equipment attrition for playing aggressively.

>>495103372
And also doesn't place you in front of the return passage when crossing floors.

I am surprised qud got an overwhelmingly approved rating on steam.

>>495100103
You care about telling us that you don't care.

gonna roguelike myself real soon

Moonlanding was fake
PYRAMIDS WUZ BUILD BY YAKUBIANS
Anglo-Saxon robbed humanity of it's original lifespan(thousands of years) and history(Hyperborean)
Epstein didn't kill himself
CHIM is real
DCSS development is orchestrated by demonic beings that come either from earths neosphere or from IX planet orbiting certain fake star currently located in persean arm region(but it's moving and will leave our galaxy in a few million years)

Finally I understand what a Xom chaosite is. The common denominators between KoCj and SpCK:
- arcane skirmishers with Evo>Invo;
- small stabber weak in melee, with terrible polearm aptitude, suiting chaos spear or dagger;
- ability to mitigate chaos backfires such as invis and haste, via high Evo and speed or spells;
- wears light armor so mutations are welcome;
- stealthy with long hunger clock allowing slow play to reset at Xom altars and exploit tension.

Kobold doesn't start CK because she hopes to use Yiuf's quarterstaff later. Staves synergizes with +2 Evo.
>>495119681
Xom approves this post
https://elderscrollslorediscussion.quora.com/What-is-CHIM-Elder-Scrolls-lore?top_ans=327687599

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This any good?

>>495063142
>we’ve decided to raise the price on October 29th
to $29.99 USD
They're insane.

It's rogueover

>>495099416
Rift Wizard IS a roguelike you subhuman retard

>>495120929
No idea, try using it though, I wanna see it in action.

>>495003472
>>495004053
>>495004309

It's Elin, which is the sequel to Elona (but lore-wise, it's the prequel, and takes 30 years before all the stuff happens in Elona). Extremely fun. Takes all the essence of pure (vanilla) Elona (none of the E+ bullshit) and lets you actually build your own base and home (own bedroom, beds for NPCs, storage rooms, etc.), your own farm in your base, just as many Nefias, more slowlife content, etc. Lots of mixing of base management and Elona core gameplay loop. And like, positive changes too. Attribute/skill potentials? There's a floor, so you won't ever drop below 100 for example. But invest platinum and you can raise them like crazy. Food? Now you can craft your own food with crazy mixes of potentials and attribute exp and it's not just generic herbed foods or picnic baskets or whatever. (Though tbf you still have to grow your own crops to do this haha.) And it's planned to have updates for years to come.

https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/noacat/elin
https://store.steampowered.com/app/2135150/Elin/

>>495127241
>choose where you start on the floor
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chip%27s_Challenge
>Chip's Challenge is a top-down tile-based puzzle video game

>>495119681
>>495118380

Menkaure ponders his mistakes
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6lvnLHPSxEE

>>495122916
In a better world you can get for 0 rubles

>>495127592
to add with what this anon said, the crafting is expansive. There are actually secrets or tricks to crafting that aren't really open, like how to make stones and logs made of just paper or other materials instead of relying on material hammers.

Furniture, like beds in particular, perform better when they have certain traits and you don't need to just rely on having a king's bed. There are ways to make superfarms that can be self-sustaining, and the functionality of each property isn't fixed to just 1 purpose like in Elona or Elona+. You can setup a tourist attraction, an inn, a town, etc.

Each resident in your home has traits and jobs and hobbies that boost how your home operates or what items can they generate, your home also has laws and policies that shape how your property will be governed or function. Best part is there is no item cap in storage or whatever you place in your base, unlike in the original.

Then there are future releases for functions like how to make your own dungeon to attract adventures and get their items, capturing prisoners as slaves, etc. And it has Steam Workshop support from the very start where there are already some QoL mods available and other people developing expansive mods without having to resort to making variants like in original Elona.

Procedural generation is substantially less impactful if there is no exploration.
Known map feels like a different genre, more akin to puzzle games.
DCSS' dungeon sprints fall into this hybrid category. They're still quite fun and educational.
The roguelike term has exploded in popularity due to the wealth of game mechanics pioneered therein. Hybridizing with other genres lures players back to the source.
There are many ways roguelikes make stairs a well-balanced game mechanic. Eliminating stairs entirely is a genre-change, not an improvement.
DCSS already follows a natural progression of difficulty in which stairs gradually evolve from redoubts into traps.
Like AOO, eliminating stairs is an attempt to remove cheese instead of simply adding a difficulty setting.
It's like always playing chess AI on easy, and then streamlining its rules towards checkers to reduce tedium.

I wondered where the competitive gamers went with the collapse of roguelikes to woke, and just found the answer:
https://web.archive.org/web/20240824150447/https://www.nytimes.com/2022/06/17/crosswords/chess/chess-is-booming.html
Even MRG tried to make the jump. Chess is so traditional in its tropes, it's medieval. An Andrew Tate whitepill.
Chess and new roguelites are the real competitors from whom trad-DCSS must claw back its elites, until the geeks are straight again.

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>>495134134
But it's not a known map. In rift wizard you can only see the next floor and can only puzzle out that part of the dungeon. In the same way that a traditional rogue can only see a room ahead too and can also only puzzle out each room at a time. It isn't fundamentally different from how a character in IA with stealth can peek rooms before choosing a path. Do tell me how a Angband player that spams magic mapping and liberally rerolls each level is suddenly playing a different genre of game than rift wizard?

dead internet isn't real but dead rlg is real
AI blight keeps it trudging on

>>495120929
It's kind of a hassle. You got a battery you can't recharge, and it's technically a creature you ride so you can't even close doors while in that thing. And in return, you can pick up heavy objects and fire energy weapons.

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>>495137684
I don't argue that Rift Wizard is not a roguelike, only that the stairless aspect is not roguelike. Even if it were, I absolutely approve of people switching to BDFL roguelites, since the OSS oligarchies have gone gay.
The quality innovation will now be in games like Rift Wizard. However, we should not take this for evidence that the traditional roguelike is obsolete or inferior.
Analogously, just because the large empires (USSR, China, USA) have undergone leftist singularities due to industrial summer, does not mean that large empires are obsolete. They will return with the next age of conquest, because big armies win. This is hard to remember when said empires are being spectacularly gay.
Regarding Rift Wizard, its combat *feels* more like a cheerful puzzle game than a roguelike. Viscerally, a roguelike means being alone in the dark against all that lurks in Moria, where death is the least of your fears. A rogue steals alone into dark secret places storing treasure guarded by torturers. Seeing the entire tactical map for free, populated by cute bouncy emojis, isn't compatible with that experience.

What is it about the roguelike genre that attracts schizos? Low monetary barrier of entry?

https://youtube.com/shorts/GhpjoypUhUQ?si=N6q0UUt8VXkMDeAa
Watch this.

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>>495144490
Games that reward outside-the-box thinking attract people who think unconventionally. That, and ASCII graphics demand that you conjure up intricate worlds from abstract symbols, it's not that far fetched that people who can hallucinate fantasy worlds in front of their computer do the same in other parts of their lives too.
>>495142052
That makes sense

>>495148031
I jerked off to this artists work before
One of the first homolike doujins I've ever read
Good times, I wish I could go back

>>495139102
I remember leaving one of these in my car once in order to have a mobile killing machine I ride around to be more efficient not wasting it's battery on walking and one day waking up to a demolished car and a single zombie wandering around. It makes zero sense for zombies to attack this thing it's not a biological being in the first place.

>>495132348
>be japanese
>get hundreds of thousands from kickstarter
>proceed to actually make a game instead of scamming people with a walking sim
This is why the west is losing.

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**** Orb lore
It would be nice if instead of an abominable dungeon core, the Orb was a silmaril:

Removing the silmaril from its pedestal triggers the alarm: "WHO DARES"
but the silmaril's aura is actually protective against the demonic pursuers. It frustrates their efforts to teleport in, reducing their spawn rate and throwing off their accuracy. Leaving the silmaril on the floor is quickly suicidal; carrying it is safer despite the stealth-reducing radiance and translocations interference.
The flavor text should state that by divine law the demon lords cannot walk the surface; make it out and you'll be home free!

Tolkien's Silmarillion lists three silmarils, who end in three elements: air, water and fire. That leaves the fourth element earth unaccounted for.

Ashenzari was once the god of sky, air and secrets, but she whispered the gossip of the gods to mortals, causing worship to decline and laughter to increase. Therefore the gods bound Ashenzari to a Dungeon far from her beloved sky, and crystallized her consciousness into the first dungeon core. This was the fourth, the silmaril of earth, wrought by the gods of man after the Valar had passed out of Arda.

Now instead of mocking the gods to mortals, Ashenzari is raped by them again and again. The bound Dungeon offers her power, prostrate, to whoever dares her depths. But only those who follow the rules can benefit. Otherwise even the corpses evaporate into mist, while shadows drive the invaders mad. No matter how many enter at once, each delves alone, in a Dungeon that is never the same, shifting like the wind itself.

The rules:
1. One delve per lifetime.
2. Novices only.

Will anyone free her? Or was her faith in Humanity the real joke?

>>495127984
Chip's Challenge is not turn based, and thus not a roguelike

>As soon as you lift the Orb, Ashenzari's voice fills your head. "Quickly, take me to the surface! The demon lords can't follow us there. I'll hold them back!"
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-Jf-E7oEguU

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which roguelikes have the best explosions

I can't really find that much criticism of qud that isn't vague complaints or just saying that it's too easy once you learn everything, but like highly venerated roguelikes here also have those issues.

Is it just because the devs are progressives or something?

>>495169469
There's no ending as of now meaning it's not a roguelike
I've also found the randomly generated dungeons/caves to be tedious and unsightly, layout-wise

Note that this opinion was created years ago when I last played, I don't know how much it changed since

>>495169469
yeah
being an antihumanist IS bad but I don't think that's an excuse to not play their game

>>495166917
CBN

>>495165342
Wait, so Ashenzari is the orb?

>>495170513
I think it got substantially better in the updates personally. 3 years ago when sseth shilled the game I would've just said it was alright, 6 years ago it was quite frankly just outright dogshit but I quite like it now.
>>495170731
>Anti-humanist
Yeah it's really pro-human to back the inbred nationalist faction who's genes are more damaged than the mutants.
But I know most pol types are well off hispanic/german muts anyways from argentina or brazil

>>495171917
>>495170513
I hate the way the marsh biomes look with an autistic fury I wasn’t aware I was capable of, everything else is fine layout wise imo

great, all my three sources of human interaction are giving me the cold shoulder today (in cataclysm) (I'm getting a moral debuff for not interacting with NPCs because I took the sociable trait)

>>495172664
put on some music and do a bump of adderall if you need more morale
give your NPCs two-way radios so you can call them up and have a chat whenever you want

>>495173560
two way radios don't actually work in the game, do they?

>>495174134
I can't demonstrate it right now because I'm out of radio range but yeah they work within like half of an overmap grid
the big overmap squares, you know, what are they like 124x124 squares on a side
I guess I could test the radio range by flying closer at 140 mph

this is Bright Nights, btw

>>495170513
They have improved the dungeon generation a bit since a few years ago. You'll find interesting little cubbyholes and snapjaw forts and shit, not to mention the becoming nooks might not have existed depending how many years you're talking

>>495171917
>who's genes are more damaged than the mutants.
Are they though? I know they've got fucked up descriptions but I'm never quite sure if it's because they're fucked up cyber hillbillies shooting up schools while the eaters laugh at them from space or if it's because the descriptions are intended to be as though they were described from the view of a furry mutant. A lot of the Qud descriptions are flowery to leave room for interpretation and imagination but it's also very likely I haven't seen some lore somewhere

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>>495174134
I'm going to test the radio range lol
>>495177671
maybe they're cyber hillbillies being described from the PoV of furry jewish mutants

>>495178395
Interesting
I wonder if you can milk NPCs from afar like this

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This shit seems useless

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>>495185846
yeah no shit
guide says it's a core component of the atomic coffee machine

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>>495186342
this is a better image I guess

>>495186342
>>495186640
Huh. I found it alone in a crate from a lab. Can't even disassemble.

>>495187013
if you find the rivtech binder or lab journal-curie you can make the atomic coffee maker out of it
throw it in the back of the deathmobile

>>495187582
Might not be too bad, atomic coffee looks nice.
My deathmobile is sadly too fat to fly and on a rooftop, for now it's some bullshit 10 floor lab I'm clearing, found a nanofabricator on the bottom but a sad haul. Even sadder is the cleanup duty awaiting me. A thousand sorrows.

>>495188020
>flying deathmobile
fault

>>495188717
Sky is free real estate.

What are some good iOS roguelikes to play at work?

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>>495188883
that's what gyrocopters are for
>>495189067
hoplite

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hold this while I figure out what I need to bring back to base while I load up the gyrocopter

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uh what the fuck?

>>495099474
>>495090878
>replying to woke slop

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okay did my gyrocopter and this random car get tied together somehow because whenever I ascend it seems that it also ascends
no, I stopped to ascend/descend hover a few times and nothing happened so whatever happened it isn't repeating

>>495192838
Huh?

>>495189252
Gyrocopters? They have those?

>>495200176
I'm crafting the most based screenshot possible hold on

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>>495200176
yeah

>>495171714
>>495160771

>>495203313
Oh, it's for bright nights, I see.

>>495205684
all flying deathmobiles are in bright nights

>>495205684
YOU MUST HAVE HELICOPTER OPERATION PROFICIENCY TO OPERATE THIS VEHICLE

HOLY SHIT
GETTING HIGHER EXTENDS YOUR RADIO RANGE THIS IS A GAMECHANGER

okay at z-level +1 your radio range is 109 map tiles
still can't connect at ground level

>>495208820
looks like the magic number is 99 map tiles if you're at ground level
I will be testing if this is an euclidean radius, a taxicab radius, or a chebyshev radius on my way back in a few IRL hours

Good night, /rlg/

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anyway this is what the dialog box looks like
it's not the complete face-to-face dialog box but a lot of things are in here

>>495212816
>it's not the complete
what do you need added??

>>495212816
e, e, and only e.

>>495213280
there's a few things like "here hold this" that don't make sense in context of a literal radio conversation

>>495069712
Played this years ago but forgot it's name, thank you

>>495213552
did you try asking them to hold something? can you actually give someone something through the radio?

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Is this completely random or did someone add a MuMo reference to the randart names

Angband is a lie, Zot a joke:
RETVRN to Moria
https://umoria.org/history/

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I remember running Mines of Moria and picrel on my 486SX

>Dungeons of Moria, - the original roguelike -
> While there are some direct variants of Rogue, such as Brogue,[59] most variants of Rogue could be classified into two branches based on two key games, Moria and Hack, that were developed in the spirit of Rogue.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Roguelike#Moria-based

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>>495218551
here's the in-person dialogue box
exclusives:
d. teaching things
e. trading items
f. giving them items to use
g. and hold
h. guarding follower change
exclusive to radio communication is:
f. please go to this location
n. please go to this location... (opens menu)
o. stay at your current position
I don't actually know what the "please go to this place" dialogs do lol but you can ask them to read things from across the map

>>495213280
assuming you're actually a dev, change option m from "let's go" to "see you later" without changing its functionality but only for radio communication

>>495230139
>assuming you're actually a dev
yeah, sometimes i do assume that.

>>495234715
haha yeah I know that feeling, I have my own shitty javascript project to work on that I've been ignoring for a month despite people waiting for me to finish it lmao

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Moria is the roguelike monomyth, but there are three approaches to delving the deep:
- warrior: tactical. DCSS, ToME, DoomRL
- wizard: puzzles. Nethack, Rift Wizard
- rogue: stealth. Sil-q, Infra Arcana, Cogmind

Survival simulators are roguelites, hence why they typically occur on the surface.

>>495205975
Oh well, I don't really want to switch.

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>>495242465

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the snake fears the spider

I quite enjoyed Aranea. At level 50 you get a nice set of innate resistances (+ poison immunity as well) and the equipment restrictions aren't bad at all. Your bite attack is reasonably good and its paralyzing effect works on a lot more enemies than I expected (including a fair few uniques). The spider web you can create is also VERY nice, it's like a little scroll of forest creation. That got me out of lots of bad situations.

I forgot to take a screencap at the killing blow so I had to use the one in the message log. Oops.

>>495243360
It's been a while since I've seen a Serpent of Chaos kill. Congrats, homie.

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GODDAMN IT

>>495243360
Nice job, did you kill Ungoliant for the racial bonus?

>>495247973
I did kill her at some point but I had no idea there was a bonus, what does it do?

>>495250926
+10 fame, guarantees their unique drop if they have one, and gives you heroism permanently

>>495239078
>Is the gameplay turn-based?
That's a bad way of putting it, no roguelike I've heard of is turn-based. Turn-based implies that you take a turn to do stuff, then the enemy takes a turn to do things. Not how it works in a roguelike, time only moves forward when you do.

>>495251429
>Turn-based implies that you take a turn to do stuff, then the enemy takes a turn to do things
that's exactly what happens in roguelikes, it's just that the enemy makes his turn instantly.

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>>495160771
>the dungeon is ashenzari's pussy

>>495166917
Cogmind

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>>495242465
You could politely ask Kevin to port it.

>>495252872
His or her turn, chud

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>>495219203
It's not random.

>>495251429
>>495252872
the core difference between tactics games and roguelikes is that your turns are atomic, they cannot be subdivided in a roguelike

>>495253698
It's a little hairy, but lots of fun.

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>>495256496

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Finished the Flamefest trial first try, which is maybe not surprising given how good fire spells are

do I buy the daiyousei, rumia, cirno and koakuma plush keychains or do I keep grinding roguelikes

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I would kill for these little gremlins

I am tempted to create O-yoroi even if it's kinda shit.

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Now that Minecraft has a movie, we should expect the Roguelike movie to be up next

>>495262023
Literal goy
>I must consooooom low-effort pedo-bite slop product like a gweilo I'm!

>>495263431
it's different if the slop has fermented for almost as long as I've been alive

nevermind I just checked the release date for Embodiment of Scarlet Devil and it came out in the early 00s, which isn't anywhere near as old as my decrepit ass
thought that shit was made in the 90s

Roguelike movie idea
>has to be 1 frame per second (representing turn based speed)
>has to be at least 4 panels at all time (representing a grid)
>if a single person walks out, the theater interrupts the movie (representing perma death)
There is no story.

>>495263431
it makes sense when you see the shit this nigga posts

>>495263996
if I don't collect all of the swords in this roguelike am I really even alive

>>495263431
I say this

>>495263718
sounds like a 12-hour olfactory experience

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is it worth it

>>495185846
couldve just made a concise description instead of this le hecking cool doctor who faggot shit

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>>495263431
>gweilo
gaijin

>>495264782
Go for it
Unless you're playing with bionic slots and already have a decent power supply

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>>495263718
I think Dwarf Fortress is gonna have it beat.

>>495264782
>Internal Microreactor
giveth radiation
>Radiation Scrubber
taketh away
worth

How's your roguelike game coming along?

>>495278948
I abandoned working on it because of a lack of motivation
I need to think of a good feature to make it distinguishable.

>>495282310
A good feature would be actually completable in 2 hours.

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...Can you guys, like, fuck off? I'm tired of sitting in this moat and waiting for my wand to recharge. Can't even rest properly because you fucks are here.

>>495278948
mine is on the long term shelf while I'm sorting irl stuff out and obsessing over the way my files are stored and organized

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Behold, with this artifact of divine power you can create a creature of immense might. THE MIGHTY POOP EEL.

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when you run out of MP vs the Unseen Horror, but you're an orc
https://www.youtube.com/shorts/qdpgp6Pgk64

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Hm, who am I going to be today.
Shame that lady Zhurong didn't drop a corpse, I wanted to try and be her for a change.

>>495305435
i fucking hate orcs so much
t- Crimson Fist

what the fuck is the point of microlabs
it's all just chemical junk, not even any mutagen books

>>495313450
have you tried not playing Kevin's slop

roguelike with trannies that look like norafawn

>>495313450
They can generate special rooms with bionics or mutagens.
Also some of that chemical stuff can be very useful, and they're also a good source of batteries and electronics.
And the zombie scientists themselves have loot.

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me when I'm near a minefield

>>495313745
but i like pockets and the psionic mod and some of the new content

>>495317732
fault

DC:SS most reliant steamroll class/race/god?
Not doing beserker

Was thinking DsNe of Kiku or else MiFi of Mak or Qaz or something

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somebody was asking about the H&K operational briefcase
it's like this lmao

>>495319680
Looks like overpriced trash

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this is completely fucking useless

Am I retarded or is Time Dilatation CBM not working? It says it gives turns per power spent, but even spending over 5k power and attacking a monster once they just take a turn against me.

>>495319281
GrFi of Mak.

Good night, /rlg/

>>495320665
It was designed for the Secret Service. They sometimes need to stay close to politicians and diplomats in public, and openly carrying submachine guns would give off the wrong image, but they still want to maintain the readiness to hose down a crowd if they gotta. Solution: A briefcase with an MP5 mounted inside it, with a button on the handle to press the trigger.
It's almost certainly overpriced, and quite useless for anyone who isn't trying to concealed carry an MP5.

Can someone help me understand something? I just had a blessed run in crawl end in the dumbest way possible. I died with maybe 10 heal wounds and another 10 curing potions. Here's what happened. Nothing was in my LoS so I rested but apparently there was a tyrant leech right outside my LoS that must've moved one tile closer to me and then struck my character while I was still resting, bypassing my 22 EV and 10 SH, and thus ending my run. How is that possible? I was slowed from fighting hornets but the slow wore off right before I died or possibly at the same time I was struck because it's the last thing in the log before it kills me. Would slow prevent my character from detecting a mob with 8 speed while resting? Like I just don't get it. I steamrolled everything as a fucking octopode up until I hit the suicide button.

>>495347420
>Can someone help me understand something?
Yeah, have sex.

>>495345732
It's probably also useless for someone that wants to contain a concealed MP5, useless in actual combat, and a useless waste of time training personnel in its use. All for some vain deception to make armed guards look like something other than armed guards. Classic tax thievery case.

>>495347420
Maybe it came from a corner while you were resting, and since you were slowed, it attacked the same turn as it moved.

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>>495315271
>you drown in 3 inches of running water
>it was a funny angle

Qud's 1.0 is coming before the end of the year. The win condition and ending/s will finally be included.
>Thoughts?
>Hopes?
>Fears?
>Predictions?

>>495362558
don't care

>>495362558
Could care less, game is wide as an ocean and deep as a puddle
Dev mass suicide
More very "progressive" stuff only mentally ill nonhumans with pronounce care about
Game still will be boring to play

>>495364504
>Could care less
So you do care about it.

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>>495319281
DDAr Yred
>>495347420
They're fast in water, and maybe you got unlucky with random energy.
Retreat to stair first, then rest. Unfortunately can't interrupt motion online when healed in transit.
>>495347420
yeah

Red Sonja win. My first and last online game; interface sucks and my ping is horrendous.
https://underhound.eu/crawl/morgue/LeoLittlebook/morgue-LeoLittlebook-20240921-030615.txt
https://underhound.eu/crawl/ttyrec/LeoLittlebook/2024-09-21.01%3A29%3A02.ttyrec
This run went sideways from the start. I'll record a proper walkthrough at pre-Ru 1 to beat MRG's.

Tiamat path tips:
- Lure Unseen Horrors into halo with noise, e.g. Lightning Rod.
- Curare Fire Giants.
- Greater Demon to smite meliai.

How to skip Tiamat:
1. Blink scroll to Orb.
2. Fill your side of grate with allies. Summon Lesser Demon might be expensive; consider alternatives.
3. Pick up Orb. Random blink out.

Great map. Eliminating the tedious popcorn allowed me to improve my micro play to the next level.

>>495362558
Something something gay deers and gay bears make the world better with the power of faggotry or something.

>>495364504
>game is wide as an ocean and deep as a puddle
Elaborate

>>495378034
Not him but the map is both very big and very empty. As a new player you might spend a small amount of time actually exploring before just fast travelling everywhere because there's simply nothing else to do. The things to do are all prewritten content with little substance (think bethesda quests) and almost no variance between runs, or randgenned unique NPCs that are about as interesting as dwarf fortress NPCs. In a nutshell, the procedural aspects fail to generate novel replay experiences while the non-procedural aspects fail to be particularly noteworthy at all.

>>495362558
>Hopes?
Story content that references current events in the region that sparks a meltdown on the steam forums and elsewhere.
>Fears?
A bear on deer kinetic romance scene to rival baldur's gate
>Predictions?
A big ol' nothingburger of a final dungeon that doesn't warrant an entire playthrough of a game I've already played and experienced in it's entirety a decade ago

>>495362558
Better mods
Whip skills
More mutations and cybernetics

>>495362558
Shekels from the river to the sea

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Never seen this ego before. I would almost use it except I found a power dragon scale mail already.

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ugh its one of those dungeons
I hate having to navigate through all his cave shit

>>495386968
>this ego
it's a randart.

>>495390739
I think it would be "The Filthy", not "a Filthy" if it was an artefact.

>>495390909
Hmm
you have a point
you should check the ego text file for emu-lord

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So as a possessor, I'm not sure what sort of bodies I should prioritize.
Should pick a body according to what sort of equipment I have? Or should I try to get specific bodies and gear up accordingly? Monsters with innate +10 speed like cats seems to be the best choice early game, but after that things get a bit murky.
As a monster character you would naturally try and use monster bodies and not humanoid ones, but most of them are kinda ass.
Also either I missed that part or it isn't stated clearly, but my natural stats overwrite body's stats if they are higher, right?

>>495391429
Early on, anything
Cyclops as soon as possible
Upgrade to a lesser titan if you want
From that point you can upgrade with higher level giant monsters or swap to dragons

actual games (no roguelikes) you would recommend as /rlg/ approved ?

>>495393958
Poker

>>495393958
I would steer clear of anything that was approved here.

when they say the age of 30 is in demand, they mean they also want to fuck 18-20 year olds, not other 30 year olds

Most video games age like milk, but a few become cheese.

>>495347924
>to make armed guards look like something other than armed guards
That's important, though. The armed guards need to be inobtrusive. You can't have the President surrounded at all times by men brandishing automatic weapons, it'd make him look like a military dictator.

>>495395154
True, people here seem to hate futanari for some reason.

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dicks without chicks
the general

>>495243360
Holy shit, a PCB/FCB win, excellent work anon.
>>495259430
Great work anon.
>>495370707
That's a lot of wins, great work anon.

how to win a berserker in fcb

>>495393043
Why cyclops?

>>495001593
Cute.

>>495399894
Isn't the hard part of melee types in *bands the mid-game? I remember hearing about the early game being not so hard since fighters can hit hard, but in the mid-game a lot of nasty stuff starts showing up, and you don't have access to spells like casters to save your ass, and neither do you have tools to cover your weaknesses either since those show up later on.

>>495400165
yeah what do i do in that case?

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>>495399505
Dickless general.

>>495399505
Chicks WITH dicks are roguelike-core.

>>495402545
source? saucenao and yandex failed

>>495402904
https://github.com/OwenGHB/composband

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>>495402904
You'll be fine without it.

>>495400864
I have no idea, play very, very carefully and try to get as many tools as you can as early as possible, I guess.

>>495403094
Oh. That's a bit too much.

>POV: you just woke up on an autodoc couch at the bottom of a lab
https://youtu.be/Pnd6_qAJ9Vo

>>495400010
Big health, big strength bonus, humanoid equips and a throw boulder spell that does good shards damage and also stuns

a woman after Kroenen's missing heart

>>495405849
So cringe normalfag choice.
Oh well.

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plant mutant enjoys the post-apocalypse (Cataclysm)

Sex with Zundamon (in Elona+)

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>>495417148
I've heard that he's a landmine Zundamon (nodding sagely)

>>495406775
nice tits

>>495419953
not really

why is the central lab so fucking huge jesus

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5RaAtXkK3ko

>>495395846
roguelikes are like milk niggers cant handle it

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boys is this what winning looks like?
I didn't realize there could be more than one finale in a lab
somebody remind me to grab a rifle to snipe this military turret in the middle of a big empty room lol

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oh shit what is this
I don't think I'm going to fuck with this right now
maybe come back when I have my power armor on

>>495437978
nice to see somebody ^Q after winning

>>495400165
the thing about berserker in particular is that you literally CAN'T
>read scrolls
>use devices
>activate equipment abilities
and I'm pretty sure you can't use normal ranged weapons. You also have "Very Bad" stealth etc. so there are few tools available to you even if you make it to end game.

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hahahahaha yes

>>495441421
Wait, I thought they could use rods and stuff? Do they just not have any detect and teleport other options?

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>>494067918
>I have spent the last five years of my life trying to make myself get noticed and nobody even knows my name outside of reddit and even there when people talk about me I'm just that obnoxious guy who went and sperged one day posting free speech trying to get banned

The funniest thing about oversocialized leftist faggots and trannies is that, when they are trying to write satire/propaganda/ridicule about their enemies, they cannot fathom the idea of somebody who doesn't do things for status. In their minds, everything a person does has to be to get attention, or to gain social standing, or to be "recognized" as important. So they write it from their perspective and it basically just falls flat. The idea of somebody who creates things (videos, books, whatever) for the sheer pleasure of it is unfathomable to them.

It says a lot more about them than it does about Malcolm Rose, a guy who gets paid $250 per DCSS run. How mad you must be about that, and more :)

>>495443873
who the fuck is paying MRG for his faggot ass to play video games

>>495443873
All too true.

>>495440491
>vatnik decide to retires after slaying (sucking) the serpent of chaos (his commander's cock)

>>495443873
Why are you replying to a post from 10 days ago. Malcolm is that you

>>495446964
the ring is on the finger and everybody knows everything

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>>495443434

>>495447332
what did he mean by this?

>>495443434
I think they might get some detection spells, but I haven't played PCB for years so not sure about that
What fork should I get if I want to play anyway?

>>495450343
>but I haven't played PCB for years
what's wrong with frogcomposband tho

What other RLs have shit like MiBe or MiFi of Gozag/Oka/Qaz where it's basically not needed to use your brain much

>>495453308
Path of achra has complex build making but the gameplay itself is braindead

>>495443873
Anti-intellectualism has taken root in the west. Under anti-intellectualism, it never matters how correct you are. Only how loud you are.

>>495453808
There is more build complexity than just checking some resist boxes and making number go up, but I wouldn't really call it "complex". You just choose a button to build around, and you pick the talents that scale the effects of that button exponentially, which typically aren't very high in number or diversity. Furthermore, as you climb the difficulties, the illusion of choice quickly collapses toward just picking OP shit rather than challenging you to execute the presented playstyles at higher levels of skill. Jupiter Hell has a very similar issue.

>>495442870
I'm still not sure what power armor actually is. Do you craft it or find it?

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>>495457347
find it
it exists exclusively in rare lab enemy spawns, military installations, and bank vaults
armored zombies usually (50%?) have broken power armor but some of them have one of the better ones
I'll post the exact spawn list for light power armor in a second

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>>495457347
>>495457569
anyway yeah it makes you invulnerable but has horrendous encumbrance unless you burn 1 electricity per second and you can't wear backpacks and such
power armor bionic interface mk2 decreases that by 75%

>>495457569
>>495457789
Sounds good, so far all I found were mechs but those things suck.

wait what did it get removed from bank vaults
nooooooooo

>>495282310
Give it a STALKER theme and a simple form of the living world AI (can't remember the name) for NPCs.

>>495458247
yeah it looks like the only reliable source is military outposts, which are defended by long range turrets on all sides (sight radius 50) backed up by spotlights
if you can shoot out the spotlights they have vision range 3 at night lol, but they shoot 7.62 NATO so don't get hit
there's not much defenses on the inside but you need to either bust down a metal door or hack a computer to get to the laser guns and power armor

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Is this bonus worth switching to staves for?

>>495459661
uh do you have a lajatang

>>495459983
no but I have Yusuf's +3 staff

>>495461295
what's your best M&F

another fucking RM13 and CVD diamond machine lab finale god damn
fuck offff this is my third one I want one of the other finales!!!!!

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oh fug

I'm going to come back and do this nether portal thing when I'm not full of bullet holes

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zombie brutes when they see a chipmonk

Good night, /rlg/

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>>495458247
anyway check it out
the heavy and regular power armor make you even more bulletproof but you end up with 10 and 5 encumbrance afterward iirc

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Mobile Base 2.0 is operational. All my hoarding needs are met, ramming enemies is pure joy with shock absorbers on everything, and with a bit of a boost from a fuel motor it can even fly.

I had the idea of a rougelike with a more heavy emphasis on randomly-generated npcs and the relationships between them and the player, with a open-ended word processor (ala games like wizardry 8), that lets you actually talk to a character via typing sentences
You can ask them their opinions on various events, world history, and other characters, and they'd give their opinions and ideas on them, you could also teach them concepts about the world, and possibly even have them become enemies/friends/lovers depending on what you bring up and how you talk to them, as well as how your ideals intersect with theirs.
This stems with the main problem i have basically all rougelike npcs, is that there's none with in-depth npc dialogue, despite some worlds being absurdly in-depth. it's typically simplified "Do this", "what is X", And "How do i do X". if there's a rougelike like this i haven't heard of it.

>>495477045
closest thing to that is DF adventure mode

>>495476707
can I see this in ASII please

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ah finally, a mech
unfortunately I've been looked at so I'm going to need to solve this shit first but

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>>495468664
>chipmonk

>>495479317
Best one honestly, let's you shoot your gun so no more
>Critical!
>Your shot reflects off of Kevlar Hulk's armor x30

>>495479370
>chipmonk
oh it's spelled chipmunk, huh
hmmm

>>495479492
I just beat kevlar hulks to death with a quarterstaff?
quieter that way

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god I hate flaming eyes so fucking much

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>>495478404
Enjoy the flavours

>>495479497
eats, nuts and bolts

>>495480063
what's it made out of? heavy rams or composite rams?