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Kai no Kiseki streams:
https://www.youtube.com/@sacredshadow/streams

>Falcom Games
https://pastebin.com/DsiJppXk
>Pastebin (aka music)
https://pastebin.com/G2mswYCt
>Extra Stuff (guides, downloads, undub patches)
https://pastebin.com/n2G4xL5s
https://pastebin.com/n2G4xL5s
>Games, mods, saves, pre-patched translations
https://nyaa.si/user/Ganba
https://nyaa.si/view/1749605
https://nyaa.si/view/1749617
>Translation patches for Hajimari, Oath in Felghana, Kuro 1 and Kuro 2
https://pastebin.com/g7PfH0bL

UPDATED: 28/09
>Kai no Kiseki survey
https://www.falcom.co.jp/enquete/form.php?title=kai
>Dengeki stream with TGS demo gameplay of Kai no Kiseki -Farewell O Zemuria-
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r1HkeIt0PQQ
>More Prologue gameplay on Kai
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u-HhLpAJ7YU
>The Legend of Heroes: Kai no Kiseki -Farewell O Zemuria- website updated
https://www.falcom.co.jp/kai
>The Legend of Heroes: Kai no Kiseki -Farewell O Zemuria- Trophy List
https://www.exophase.com/game/ying-xiong-yun-shuo-jieno-gui-ji-psn/trophies/
>Kai Amazon ranking still can't beat Puyo Puyo Tetris 2
>The Legend of Heroes: Kai no Kiseki -Farewell O Zemuria- Prologue gameplay
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FLhCl-Jcxbk
>The Legend of Heroes: Trails in the Sky the 1st website
https://www.falcom.co.jp/sora/
>Legend of Heroes: Trails Through Daybreak II is coming out in Early 2025
https://store.nisamerica.com/products/the-legend-of-heroes-trails-through-daybreak-ii-limited-edition
>Ys X: Nordics Releasing in the West on 25th Oct by NISA
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Cr5_4eGWQio
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>kisses Rean
>kisses Van
>kisses Crow
This is why Agnes let her die.....
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>>496333115
Agnes... lost...
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>*teleports behind you*
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8AYttZ4BkVw&t=450s
>*demiurges your ass*
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>>496333115
Giga Stacy of Kiseki
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>>496333478
*Whore
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>all my effort... wasted
lol
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>>496333279
KEK. Is that the Thot Patrol mech
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THE STRONGEST!

>>496333478
Too giga apparently that a fucking time cube bitch slapped her back down to Zemuria and turned her into stone for nearky a thousand and two hundred fucking years.
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>>496333115
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OmO7cOWO42g
All connect events in Kai
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>>496333571
>the strongest
That’s not THE RAT.
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>*sigh* next loop better be good
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>>496333571
>implying
Water and Wind in the next arc will somehow be stronger than this thing
You know Kondo will do it
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>>496333654
Should I add it in the next OP
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YOOOOO HE BECAME A GRENDEL HOST TOO
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>>496333828
You should
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>>496333872
THE RAT FORMA DE GRENDEL BLANCO
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am i stupid? why cant I equip both poison and petrify?
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>>496333973
They are the same type.
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>>496333973
You can't equip two status inflicting quartz at once.
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>>496333872
>"I am the beast that brings the white dawn..."
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The term "夜明け" is being spammed a lot in this game by multiple characters. I guess for Zemuria to survive we gotta go Through the Daybreak... suddenly the English title makes sense... makes waaaay more sense than "Kuro". I guess Kondo was the one who named the EN title?
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>>496334026
the tutorial told me to equip the same time so i can get stronger arts
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>>496334073
>guess Kondo was the one who named the EN title?
It was NISA I think
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>>496333998
Was it really necessary to see these two for a third time? Does anyone even like them? They are the most boring part for me.
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>>496334152
I smell a woman's jealousy.
What is it, their beautiful ass or the big tits on the left one?
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>>496334152
It was a nice fan-service at least.
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Kincaid's Grendel is called Shaddai
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/El_Shaddai
>El Shaddai (Hebrew: אֵל שַׁדַּי, romanized: ʾĒl Šadday; IPA: [el ʃadːaj]) or just Shaddai is one of the names of God in Judaism
FUCKING JEW

>>496334149
Nisa would've had to know the grand plot of Kai to translate Kuro as Daybreak.
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>>496334152
Shizuna, we call that padding.
>>496334296
Maybe they got lucky kek
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Van Daybreak
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We have been through this before
We thought translating Sen to "Cold Steel" made no sense
Then Kondo pulled a fast one on us
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i know gramheart wanted to stop the great reset but what did he even try to do?
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>>496334362
in a perfect reset, men like him would not exist
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>>496333115
Would Emilia kiss all the /fg/ anons if she was able to?
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>>496334394
most likely.
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>>496334073
Here's a good video on Kiseki original and translated titles being explained
https://youtu.be/VR0Fp6IaMvk?si=fChlfAGRwtZ5iLwr
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>>496334394
that sneaky so and so!

>>496334434
He wanted Emilia and her mech to destory the cube. He even had nukes and it still didn't work.
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>>496334434
go to space and DESTROY THE FUCKING TIME SEPTERRION THAT'S BEEN CAUSING THE RESET BRO ARE YOU PAYING ATTENTION?
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>got punched straight to the moon
THIS IS ONE PUNCH MAN VS BOROS SHIT LMAO
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>>496334732
Pretty sure that's just AR shit. We were fooled
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>>496334434
He tried to nuke the cube with reactor weapons. It did not work
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>final boss battle is pure action hack and slash
YOOOOOOO THIS IS BEYOND KINO
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>>496334206
Jealous of what? Not having to be a naked streetdancer without any shame? I study so I don’t have to sell my body. I can still look my family in the eyes, I‘m sure they couldn’t (if they were alive).
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>>496334914
Shizuna! She tried her best!!!!
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>>496334887
its not taking place in the beyond tho
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>>496334914
You may not be half-naked but you're still a ho and schizuna is shit
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>>496334997
haha not yet
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>ZA WARUDO
>sono chi no kioku...
https://youtu.be/fCMDad_YnBg?si=4hKlVhLArBc9F9m3&t=65
absolutely kino
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>>496334963
No. She chose to become a streetdancer for money, and groomed her little sister into it too. Just because it’s their „family tradition“. What‘s so wrong about honest work, like working at a restaurant, or something? That said, I didn’t mind them in kuro 1. But why show them three times? They do not bring anything to the story.
>>496335038
*cuts your ballse*
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>>496335193
It's like one of them Bleach panels
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lmao this dude
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>>496335320
They just liking dancing okay! It's honest work to do something you like!!! But yea I agree they don't need to show up so much after the first time
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>Ban-san rejected me, so now Kinkeido-san is my friend
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A:D, Another Dawn/Daybreak
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>>496335519
>>496335378
>>496335193
Ngl, seeing THE RAT beat up Van effortlessly, after he rejected Agnes in the worst possible way, was really really satisfying. I love the rrat.
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>>496335193
speaking of Jojo references
https://youtu.be/82gwV7aSYJs?list=LL&t=533
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Rat's grendel is blonde like Agnes. Connection?
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>>496335695
He beat EVERYONE effortlessly. Grendel with ALL the Genesis is way too OP.
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>>496335695
Van will impregnate Shizuna in Kai :>
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>>496335695
How is he so damm strong outta nowhere
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>>496335902
Genesis
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Jusis character growth after 4 games of Sen is impressive. It's sad Calvard doesn't seem to have a similar character focus on the non main cast.
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>>496335902
Juiced up on all the Genesis
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>>496335815
I can’t wait for Kai 2. It will have Rean vs Shizuna rematch, Full grendel Van vs THE RAT, and Valimar Rean vs the time septerion in space.
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reanspic headcanons are so funny
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Hey, uhh... forgot her name
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>>496336001
don't forget emilia. she needs a rematch too. they'll jump the the cube or something
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This just proves Juna replaced Alisa as Rean's main girl. Also she's hot in this ending
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I rewatched the Elaine scene from Reverie, and with context it's clear that the moment the RAT showed up its clear he was trying to sway her, not fully flirt but rather try to get her to consider options other than Van. Bastard really was holding out hope she would notice him instead.
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>>496336262
haha well he is crossbell after all!
>>496336278
Sneaky....
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>>496336278
KONDOOOO
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>our plan is just beginning
this is quite funny, in this game, Ouroboros literally took a break just because they felt like giving Gramhart a chance to oppose Time Septerrion.

but I'm confused about GM's Eternal Recurrence plan. Isn't that just normal Time Septerrion's activation? they could just AFK and the world will get reset by itself anyway. maybe they want do/get something before the reset and bring them back for a NG+ run like a Roguelite game?
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The height differences here are lmao
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>>496336278
So the RAT is so strong because of his incel powers?
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We can all agree that the next game has the potential to be the best in the series?
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>>496336559
you mean Sky remake ft. time jannies?
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>>496336464
They're trying for a golden ending, even if it means using things and people from prior loops (Novartis, Risette) to get to it.
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It's up.
https://youtu.be/SRQx5iz8bgI?si=tLVEvlxnbmsMB_Tg
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>>496336515
elliot rape
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>>496336602
>Novartis, Risette
they survived the time reset?
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>>496336515
You can only post in this thread if you're taller than Elliot
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How tall would Fie be now?
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>>496336464
Ouroboros' mission is to witness how mankind uses the sept-terrions. They're probably happy enough to wait until the issue gets solved.
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>>496336695
GM got them, yes
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>>496336614
KWAB
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>>496336695
GM can pull people from them and into another. That's what happened to Novartis. Risette is from another reset that lasted way longer than normal
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>>496336723
Alisa looks very hot there, I wonder truly what went wrong with her
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>>496336602
>>496336695
I can't believe that meme about the GM wanting to sex Risette was that close to the truth...
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>>496336815
>>496336870
>Risette
when was this mentioned?
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So what happened to Ronnie's growth? If anything Van became even more stronger than him lmao.
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>>496336923
Can you blame her?
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An.Iesu DIOS
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>>496336991
Risette's date of birth is in the 1250s, meaning the loop she was from lasted longer than normal; her memories were wiped upon getting to the current loop and only recently returned
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>>496337147
Then what about her connection to Anchorville and that blue haired waitress? Is she her grandma?
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Can we finally admit that Kiseki's meta story finally progressed in Kai?
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>>496337216
Possibly, in the previous loop.
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>>496337015
He's a disappointment
a failed Crow
I blame Dingo for taking the Crow role in Kuro 2 (and relevant in Kai)
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who?
who's she and the other 2 mystery niggas?
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>>496337306
HOLY SEX
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>>496336923
Risette is very sexo
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>>496337362
we know Crow.
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>>496337306
This is okay. I would prefer her to wear a black cat swimsuit.
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>>496336278
You mean they actually planned that out?!
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>>496337469
You can buy that for your daughter next time, haha!
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Finished... this is beyond kino...
I don't understand all the hate, saying it worse than Sen 3.
Can't wait for Kai 2 and Sky (Loop No.20,000) Remake
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>>496337285
Crow was really cool in Kai and leading Rean's group. Even his decisiveness caught the eye of Rene.
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>>496337537
Altina is honestly extremely cute, she is literally a doll. I want to dress her up all day every day. It‘s a shame she seems to hate Shizuna. I love her.
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>>496337473
>he doubted
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>>496337353
why that camera so big lmao
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>>496337760
Nothing a bit of tough love and pancakes (bribes) won't fix! She needs a mom!
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>>496337721
I think people were mostly disappointed with the fact that Kai wasn't the final Calvard game as it was marketed and that we still have a lot of mysteries to uncover. Even though Kai has the same formula and padding, I don't really mind since I liked 4spg comfy routine.
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>>496337753
He didn't lead Rean's group. But he felt like CS1 Crow where there's a competent head in the team.
Honestly the biggest issue of the Kuro cast where the only competent person is an old man that's nerfed as fuck.
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>>496337295
The 2 men is most likely Atkinson and Aramis, the woman is probably either Sheena or Sophie.
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Kaede ships Van with Shizuna btw
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>>496337721
It has hate because it's another set up game with tons of fucking padding. Ending sequence was cool, but now we have more questions than answers.
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love renny
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>>496338083
you're not supposed to say that
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>>496336539
If you think about it, if Kincaid wasn't messing around, he could just grab everyone and send them to space to die there but he didn't.
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>>496338087
>It has hate because it's another set up game
Kai is a lot better than CS3, even though Kai is another set-up game at least it feels like things were happening and we got some nice development for Agnes, Risette, Judith and Jolda.
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>>496338237
RAT is still a glowie to his core
Agnes probably didn't want that so he didn't do it
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>>496338237
there is no "space"
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>>496338264
>Kai is a lot better than CS3
My guy we still know fuck all about Van, his origins or Mare. Things only mostly happen at the end again. And the routes don't help, too. Mostly padding with either even more set up (Rean's) or having it be ruined by others (Kevin's).
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>>496336614
>Worst fanbase
He is clearly a genshifag
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I'm writing a closing remark about Kai, please read my blog later
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>>496338581
I'm disappointed that we didn't learn about Van's origins, but I really enjoyed his development from kuro 1 to Kai, the face of pure despair when Agnes started disappearing and when he had flashbacks of his journey and how much he truly valued his connection with other Spriggans and friends and it was all because Agnes managed to break him through his shell and hypocrisy.
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>>496337306
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>>496338890
Yea and it only happens in the ending parts. Even finding out about Gramheart's plan isn't left to him. I do agree about the Agnes stuff though, that was cool she went from me not really caring to one of the best in the arc
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>>496339347
MR SHERID GET DOWN
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>>496339347
>Haha, I'll join you
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>>496339347
BASED
God thing it's a fucking weekend or else i would have been fucked over seeing this at work.
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>>496339347
SEEEEXXXX
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I didn't realize Risette is voiced by Ishikawa Yui.

>>496339347
I don't get the appeal of lolis
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>>496339685
>>496339769
>>496339874
Stop samefagging, mondblut.
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What the fuck is wrong with English """""translators"""""? those are 2 completely different lines.
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A reminder that despite all these Agnes stuff, the next Kai game will have Van do romance connect events with the girls
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Punished Josh from a previous loop where Estelle died.
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>>496340041
retard
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>>496340041
dumbass
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>>496340131
With the introduction of the grand resets, now any headcanon is possible
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>>496340124
If Kondo changed his mind about doing something different for the romance i can see that happening. Honestly there are only 2 ways i can be satisfied with romance, either make Agnes canon or give Van Rex's treatment.
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What do you guys have planned for this weekend? I tried that metaphor demo, and it’s literally a carbon copy of Kuro gameplay wise.
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>>496340338
It's pretty clear he's gonna get with Agnes.
>>496340390
Playing more Ys 8 later desu
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You shouldn't humor femcels like Agnes
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>>496340591
But she sacrificed herself. Femcels don't do that right
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>>496340650
She said she'll be back.
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You all did get this, right?
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>>496340390
I want to finish my VIII replay but it'll probably be next week. I'll only be getting into the final chapter today.
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>>496340682
She was always gonna return. Van's gonna go schizo mode and look for her
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how do i find a gf who plays trails and ys?
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So... water and wind septerrion left after this arc...

>>496340835
discord, reddit and twitter
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>>496340759
Opposite for me. I'm on chapter 2.
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Yep that pretty much confirms it.
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>>496340759
I love you, Ys 8 anons! mwah!
>>496340591
How is Agnes a femcel when she could have literally any man she wants, AND became the goddess?
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>>496341000
Nice trips shizuna sis *hugs you*
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>>496340932
?
that's just falcom reusing animation
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Ys XI news when
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>>496333115
Emilia aside, but Van probably has the best set of waifus. Rean's harem is shrinking and Altina in kai was rather dull compared to sen 3/4, it also didn't help that she has more interactions with Van and Kevin than with rean, Altina's only major role is being a tech guide but in Rean's route she feels out of place.
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Van and Aaron had another duel
Aaron jobbed even harder than last time haha..
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>>496341508
I don't think it's shrinking. If anything, Kai tells it exists at all. Altina's only job here is to guide everyone to the grim garden
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Where did it all go wrong?
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>>496337306
Where are Fie's and Towa's swimsuits? It's not just Altina is it...
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>>496341508
Van is for Elaina only
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Olympia will save Kai 2
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>>496341627
Van has quality over quantity and I'm pretty sure the only main heroine in kiseki who can top Agnes is Estelle.
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>>496341809
>can finally romance mummy wife
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>>496341508
He has a harem but in the end it's either Elaine or Agnes, don't kid yourself.
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LMAO aaron even jobbed to the fat fuck Fan
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>>496341618
Don't know how Ronniefags can cope at this point, i remember how they expected him to perfect his fighting style and finally beat Cao.
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>>496341831
>>quality over quantity
>childhood friend
>generic friend
>a thief
>sword autist #783932
>sad loli
Agnes is the only one post Kai that stands out by far. We say "harem" but we all know it's down to Agnes or Elaine even before Kai. Probably just Agnes now.
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>>496341793
https://youtu.be/T8YPgtQQb3w
It's just Altina.
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The only thing aaron trained is swinging his hips against prostitutes.
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>>496341929
Haha surely...
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>>496342061
Judith is pure sex.
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>>496342061
Elaine >>>> Shitlisa
Agnes >>>>> Emma
Shizuna > Laura
Judith = Duvalie
Risette > everyone else
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>>496341793
they only have the standard bathrobe/towel..
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When are we getting a PC version of Kai so someone can start translating this shitshow?
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>>496342275
All different flavours we've seen before. Even the damm maid shit. Thank fuck no harem shit is in this. I do not want the mc to get no 100% canon girl 3 arcs in a damm row.
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>>496342349
Ironic weebs

Their LIFE HOBBY is about consooming Japanese media but they're too prideful to admit that. "hmph why would I learn the language just to play some dumb games lololol". In 5, 10, 15 years. they will STILL consoom Japanese media while begging for (awful) translations from corporations who hate japanese media or fellow fans to translate them.

If you spend most of your free/leisure time consooming japanese media, then go learn the fucking language.
I started learning in 2017, diligently. Now I'm able to play and read through all the latest untranslated games. Meanwhile ironic weebs like vast majority of /fg/ are busy shitposting, whining and begging for spreadshit "translation".

Learn the langauge. You had at least a decade. Don't waste another decade doing nothing.
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>>496342275
Shitlisa > Cucklaine
Elaine has been cucked out of everything and still has Falcom's boilerplate heroine personality. Alisa was annoying in CS1 but she never got cucked so hard like Elaine.
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>>496342275
>Elaine
better Alisa and has a proper connection as a childhood friend to MC
>Agnes
plot relevant Emma
>Shizuna
sword autist, but unlike Laura she's a fun sword autist and not a character with a personality of a cardboard box
>Judith
I honestly prefer Judith, but they both have the same appeal, Judith is just more SEXO
>Risette
less annoying Sharon and more relevance

I guess you also missed Renne too, but Renny is Renny so it's hard to even compete.
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GM didn't even anything in this game and Nina... barely something.
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>>496342989
Yes I fucking hate that bullshit. Literally what was the point of adding her to the box art
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>>496337306
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Falcom won't commit to the whole van haremshit. Seriously though, you never know what goes inside kondoms head.
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>>496340304
>All the final bond events are now possibly canon because each one could've happened in a different loop
Naruhodo...
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>>496343058
Van a close-up view of Judith's entire bare rack and pussy when they first met. Why's she so embarrassed that he saw her underwear?
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Why didnt chao propose to rixia himself?
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>>496342961
>better Alisa
Elaine gets cucked super hard. Not even Alisa had that. Probably because Agnes and Elaine occupy the main girl role at the same time.
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>>496343058
imagine the smell...
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>>496343284
>Not even Alisa had that
lol lmao, then where is she? Alisa got cucked super hard by a cumdoll and she lost all relevance to the plost since Sen 3
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>>496339347
>>496343165
UUUUOOOOHHHHHH
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Why does Falcom hate Elaine so much? they refuse to give her screentime.
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>>496343501
>Alisa got cucked super
Elaine gets cucked in the second Calvard game. Even the box art had her on it, and she ended up being irrelevant for most of it. Also in Kai:
>Van only fights Gramheart because he wants to throw Agnes a birthday party
>Literally runs after Agnes at the very end
Elaine lost way harder. At least Alisa was pushed in the first two games.
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shota Van...
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>>496343807
She shouldn’t have been a unlikable bitch for two entire games.
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>>496343058
Judie sex in Kai 2
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>>496342275
what's based is he has no flatties trash in his harem
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>>496344004
bro, Jolda...??
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>>496343906
no one ever liked kiskei women because of personalities. It's all about the design.
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I bought KAI no Kiseki for PS5 the best modern console with insane graphics, but the game looks like PS2, this is terrible gonna drop it man.
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>>496344004
He doesn't have a harem lol
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>>496344073
Doesn't count
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>>496343501
Her arc was Cold Steel. She doesn't have to show up in every game. Even within Cold Steel she got special treatment until the end. Elaine has been forced out of every important moment in Kuro, and she's really pulling a Lianne by getting gigacucked by Agnes. It's no wonder why her title is Sword Maiden.
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>>496344004
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Who is the best Ys girl?
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>>496344167
Dana Forever
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>>496342275
You missed renne
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>>496344115
He does. Falcom just boxes him in the Elaine or Agnes triangle.
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>>496344167
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i fucking love Agnes
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>>496344226
There is no pick your waifu shit here. This ain't Cold Steel. And that's good. Agnes/ Elaine have been the only serious girls pushed.
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>>496344167
Ys doesn't really have good female characters. Fan consensus would be Dana.
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>>496344343
They still all want his dick
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>>496344284
>used goods
>not even pining for adol
What a fucking mistake
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>>496344153
What with maiden being cucks?
>Steel Maiden(osborne)
>Icy maiden(rean?)
>Sword Maiden(van)
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>>496344472
So did Vivi in CS and we couldn't touch her.
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>>496333654
I noticed that connect events in Kai now have partial voice acting, in Kuro 1 and 2 they had no voice acting at all, aside from the end of connect event.
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>>496344464
Is that Nina the saintess??
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>>496344561
Nah vivi never wanted rean dick. That's part of her humor.
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>>496344545
They wouldn't still be maidens otherwise.
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>>496333973
Because if you could do that estelle would fucking sweep kiseki like a garchomp with her whirlwind craft.
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Nayuta no Kiseki's doomed world must be The Beyond, right?
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>>496344343
doesn't matter all side girls are wet for him which is fucking annoying. Like why couldn't any of them date Ronnie or one of his males friends? It's all contrived to appeal for self-inserts.
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Wait when Agnes time reset, we see orbal phones and cars disappearing. Could this mean she delayed the technology advance a few years in her soft reset as well?
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>>496344657
If humour like that doesn't count you gotta strike Shizuna too then. Even since Van tells her to knock it off.
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Can someone give me a decent TLDR of Kai plot, only seen bits and pieces thrown around
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Van should be even a bigger mary sue than rean, Kondo should bring back pick your waifu for kai 2, there should be a connect event with Ronnie where they both go to the toilet and Ronnie says "now i understand what women find in you".
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>>496344343
Shizuna has been set up and other girls have been teased. Kai's CS3, so let's see if they'll pull a CS4.
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What a second...
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>>496342339
And she is toddler who wears one pieced swimsuit. I didn't meant for age. While Nadia is chad who wears bikini. Isn't bikini for brave chad character while one piece is for Inkya,virgin toddler?
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>>496344946
Ok I'm writing it
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>>496341929
I asked Kondo that give me an open-end with waifus to pick. He agreed for Kai 2
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>>496345040
Ronnie will never have sex so long as he remains around the self-insert Van.
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>>496345069
>Shizuna has been set up
....as a foil to Rean.
>teased
Van's only been semi serious about Elaine but didn't go for it because muh demons. And now the most important parts of Kai are because of Agnes. Even in Kuro 2 we had to choose between those two.
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>>496334732
Gr 15 makes me so mad. I have hundreds of bang zoom straight to the moon memes.
>>496340131
I require kloe x joshy and cuckstelle joining oroboros to vicariously enjoy the growth of her party by becoming the final boss.
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>>496345040
Did you just conveniently forget that Van had a literal boner with Aaron? They'd dock it out immediately.
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What's this ESL weeb sperging about
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Is this your so called strongest protag? couldn't even handle fucking Fie without kneeling.
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>>496345071
The japanese love time loops and the likes. Pay it no mind.
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>>496333362
Hatman is a blue mage/summoner?
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>>496344906
Yea. The silver lining is that they haven't gone full Cold Steel since they stick to the only two. No one can be friends with the opposite gender now kek
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>>496344946
Falcom thought, hey remember the prologue of Trails from Zero, what if we made that into an entire game?
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>>496341459
The next ys game will explore yunica tovahs next adventure. Ys origin ii: the song of sin
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>>496345470
uhhhh reanbros?
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They deliberately didn't give the bunny suit DLC for Rixia, did they? Galloons of cum would have been shot if Kondo put one for her.
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>>496345071
Persona 2 has a time reset as well where the timeline got fucked up in the sequel when MC wasn't able to forget the main heroine and started messing the timelines. Tragedies that happened before happen again with minor differences, either a different group do it or a former villain now is a good guy.

Surely Kondo wouldn't copy this...haha
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>>496345470
Meanwhile Van beat Ronnie without breaking a sweat and defeated Shizuna in negro mode...
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>>496345470
>power level fag
>expecting him to go all out on Fie
Retarded shounen nigger
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>>496344925
I sure hope so they look ugly and asset flop as sin. Calvard looks awful
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>>496345807
And lost to tacoman....
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Remember the times before Kuro 1 release when people thought Ronie would be cool?
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>>496345535
Yup this is why I hate all these self-insert male MCs. Lloyd was at least good in that regard where Randy was pretty much buddies with Tio.
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>>496345936
I do, it's so funny looking back
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>>496345929
to be fair everyone would lose to him except the RAT
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>>496345936
He legitimately looked so cool to the point that everyone thought that he was the MC.
In the reality, he kept getting Fufu'd by Cao instead.
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>>496345936
I, too, remember and had hope for this arc haha.
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>>496345894
>Kondo sir, people have been complaining about Calvard, how it looks and tech gap. What do we do? we are two game in already...
>Ok time reset it is, we are going to give them the Calvard they expected back in Sky era.
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>>496345952
You skipped ao
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>>496345470
>What is holding back
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Why people get mad over cause-effect they made up and have no evidence for?
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All right, lads, if Kai 2 becomes harem slop and you get to pick Van's wife out of any playable female in the game, who're you going for?
Bonus question: Now pick Rean's
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>>496345936
People thought he was cool in Kai when s-craft dropped, I guess not anymore...
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>>496346064
Haha...
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>>496345936
I guess we had someone from the future back then...
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>>496346048
Better late than never i guess.
Anyway we cant undo cold steel but we can make rean no longer poochie by introducing power and harem creep to everyone else.
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>>496346127
>Van-Agnes
>Crow-Emilia
>Rean-either Altina or Fie
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>>496346127
Renne or Jolda
Bonus: Alfin
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Zemuria is inside there
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>>496346201
kek
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>>496346201
He remembered the previous reset.
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I'm looking forward who would be ruined due to swin and nadia's appearance in Kai 2(just like what van in kuro 2 and kevin in kai experienced)
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>>496345952
To be honest shipper are fucking obnoxious. I was fine with girls going out with boys in a friendly manner but everyone start shipping even if they look at other male for 2 miliseconds.
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>>496345502
But America would like this too, with "multiverse" stuff.
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>>496346213
>introducing power
Did you forget all the stuff with Ka Fai? He's getting another damm power boost with whatever the new sword is. Not to mention the shizuna tie in shit
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>>496344927
Vivi is a literal NPC and not even a playable character..
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>>496346127
Elaine for both.
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>>496346201
Haha...that anon came from one of the timeloops and remembers everything
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>>496345521
Kind of, he creates illusions/replicas using thought fragments.
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>>496345662
Do we have any melties about Gouran proposing to Rixia yet?
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>>496346213
>make rean no longer poochie by introducing power and harem creep to everyone else.
Lloyd had a harem before Rean.
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>Shizuna
Widest hips
>Elaine
fattest ass
>Agnes
well rounded + a schoolgirl
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>>496333115
Wait? Is it the same girl? What the fuck is her problem. What a shameless whore.
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>>496346127
Emilia for Van, Rean, and Crow! She deserves a good pretty-boy gangbang after stepping up and trying to fight the space cube
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Vivi did actually want Rean dick
Btw this would make Rean and Gaius brothers in law
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>>496346373
Yea and she jokes and flirts back. Half her lines are sucking him off post CS2
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>>496346445
There's no Roidofags here so no one's making a melty about it.
It would be fun if Gouran goes to crossbell just to push in Rixia's face that he's a better match for her by making roido kiss the cement.
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>>496345662
DLC part 2
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>>496346537
>I'm gonna die, so I might as well kick it!
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Who would win between Emilia and Renne in a cock-sucking contest?
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>>496345662
Only Van's girls are put in bunny suit
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>>496346323
Self-inserts are the disease. Due to their melty episodes, they started cracking down on opposite sex relationships.
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>>496346445
Doubt there'd be much outrage. Rixia has always been seen as rapebait (second to Elie) even by nips. All of her fanarts are her getting dicked by faceless males or monsters.
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>>496345470
You can't be talking when the Spriggans jobbed to a fat spic in the main story.
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>>496346553
this
I'm sick of only boys getting harem
we girls need them too
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>>496346642
Vivi flirts with any thors boys
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>>496344927
>>496346373
>>496346642
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Emilia has sucked more cocks than the average OP
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I love my husbando and our husband-son that we sexually abuse
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>>496346715
Renne without a doubt. She's been in training since she was 4 years.
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>>496346537
Haha that's our Emilia, but I wonder if she pecked Van on the lips... she's the first girl that made Van blush, he didn't even blush when he saw Judith naked...
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>>496346289
most likely yes
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>>496346445
Haji pretty much destroyed any real presence of Lloydfags so not really. More people just seem to be further dunking on Lloyd because the retard didn't take Ishy Rean's spoilers and now it finally bit everyone in the ass
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>>496346885
Geez imagine next mc like Estelle but she gets to pick all the boys.
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>>496346440
what the fuck is a thought fragment
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>>496346530
>well rounded + a schoolgirl
based, I love Agnes
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>>496347059
if it was on the cheek they wouldn't have cut away because Rean and Crow got it on screen
it was definitely on the lips
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>>496347059
What was Judith role? I always forget she even exist.
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>>496346791
Shippers are the uncurable cancer.
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btw Emilia? She TANKED that actually, Black Gilstein ain't shit
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>>496346986
She defaults to rean even with the other guys around.
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>>496347059
sadly we don't know because of the cut, but Van seem to trust Hermes a lot
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>>496346830
Rene? he seems overpower
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>>496347059
lol
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>>496347248
>What was Judith role
Her granny is more tied to the crazy stuff Agnes and Hamilton do later. So uh....
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>>496347059
Judith's hot, but Van or anyone who knows what kind of person she actually is would definitely just see her as some kind of comical relief. Girl is probably a bigger mess and failure than Doobs.
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What was the robot that killed Emilia, does it have a name?
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>>496347248
a joker like duvallie
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>>496347689
yes corrupted valimar killed her
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So does Nina come from thr Beyond according to one of the episodes? If so then it appears that people that come from there appear to have blue hair, assuming the Grandmaster is from there as well
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>>496337306
HOLY FUCKING SEXO
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>>496347480
we saw her from the sky into the ground, but she'll be fine because of the reset and because we still don't know the significance of her red strings of hair
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>>496347108
That would be unfathomably based and make the most sense ironically enough but falcoom is too pussy to ever do that.
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>>496347613
meant for>>496346830
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So Hamilton was evil?
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>>496347689
For lack of a better name it's Gilstein Negro
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>>496345071
The Japs fucking love this shit. 13 Sentinels has this as its main twist (a variation of at least)
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>>496347850
the end justify the means evil
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>>496347850
retard
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>>496347741
Wait...is it Valimar? wtf
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>>496333115
I hope Emilia comes back alive and well in Kai 2.
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>Tacoman
>Rat forma Grendel Blanco
>Madokagnes
Do we have any other potential new divegrass members from Kai so far?
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>>496339347
CUM
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I want Joshua as me and Weissmann's son. He needs a mama/older sis.
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>>496347850
She is a dindu like Osborne
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>>496345071
Astlibra was pure unfiltered kino, reminded me a lot of older falcom games
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>>496348038
EMILIA THE WHORE
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I hope Crow sexes Emilia in Kai 2.
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>>496347998
>>496347993
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Swimsuits
https://youtu.be/T8YPgtQQb3w?si=91ZpQZLboQlZU94r
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>>496347480
>btw Emilia? She TANKED that actually,
Idk man....
>>496347689
>>496347741
>>496347998
They say it's not Zoa Gilstein. So it's a new mech. YKF mentions the sept terrion of steel to Rean so something is up
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>>496348119
Only if he calls rean and van to join
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>>496348038
>We're going to have anons spamming ANIES RESET THE TIMELINE whenever we got scored
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>>496348161
Agnes literally looks just like alishit..
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wtf
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>>496346830
To be fair, returning characters rarely job since they always job during their main games.
Aside from the infamous Roido getting jobbed by rufus considering that you can call roido as a returning character.
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is Emilia's mech stronger than the divine knight?
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>>496348271
They'll already be present because she would kidnap them and force all 3 into fucking her
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>>496348364
Are these unrealistic proportions actually attractive for you?
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>>496348364
Gouran breeding this full of triplet every pregnancy
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>>496348528
sometimes. sorry shizuna sis
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>>496348528
Yes, post your tits flattie
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ENTER
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y4dZb2jXKhY
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>>496348191
Ah so that's YKF meant. There is another Septerrion involved, how many are we missing in the lore now?
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>>496348161
Is there anything like this but for bunny suits yet
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>>496348618
They will naturally grow during pregnancy. Your dick won‘t grow, thoughever.
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>>496348423
>spoilers
That was so pathetic. Kondo really hated Lloyd with passion since Estelle or Kevin didn't have to go through that shit even less Rean.
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>>496348707
Unpopular opinion I know but I love the new S-craft cut-ins. They fit really in the flow of the fight and the craft animation.
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>>496349059
Do you know what else will grow after giving birth?
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>>496348161
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>>496349084
Lloyd is like the Gohan of Kiseki in Kondo's eyes. He's going to get that one W once in a blue moon but aside of that, he's going to get through the humiliation ritual.
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>>496349123
The child, hopefully.
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>>496333998
I love watching the girls shake their exposed asses
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so yeah confirmation that it's exactly the same statue
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>>496348948
We don't know why he mentioned it. The idea as of now is it means without the Sept Terrion of Steel they probably can't beat the cube. Since a reset happens regardless. And the Japanese character used for Steel is the same one the CS games used whenever they talked about the steel sept terrion.

That's why people were saying the divine knights/great one might return.
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>>496348948
Steel Sept terrion is just Fire + Earth. The thing is, that shit is gone, but Rean needs it back. Who knows how he'll get it back.

As for the missing ones, only Wind and Water remain
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>>496349202
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>>496349397
Kevin making that expression makes me realize how good he'd look with some hot jizz on his face
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>>496349202
ok but where is crow so he can mog these two twinks?
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>>496333998
Why is this so short?
Any full version?
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>>496349579
Kevin is literally Van de Verde
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Emilia jobbed twice, kissed thrice and died
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>>496348528
What's your opinion about Emilia want to be gangbanged by Rean, Crow and Van?
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>>496346730
Towa, Lapis, and Altina have all been seen in bunny suits
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>>496348618
There is absolutely nothing wrong with being flat. Stop bodyshaming.
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>>496349310
kek
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*resets your general back to #1*
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>>496350007
Van's property
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Kai no Kiseki was both great and awful. I really like how this game advanced the Kiseki grand plot and now we’re actually going deep into the truth of Zemuria.

Sept-Terrions in Liberl, Crossbell and Erebonia feel insignificant that only affected the regional area, but this time, the Time has influence over literally everything with its Grand Reset. The final chapter was the best in the franchise so far. Instead of fighting a random giant divine-ish monster in a random dimension, we’re actually fighting things that are actually real and observable to everyone this time (Time-Sept and Grendel Shaddai)

I really like how Anies, Kincaid and Hamilton were scheming together. Kai is definitely a great setup game, which makes me look forward to Kai 2 and even Sky Remake cuz it’s possible that it’d be like FF7 Remake where it’s actually a continuity. I really look forward to destroying Time in a space battle. And find out more about Kincaid, Hamilton’s Mystery Niggas and other Remnants. Also Ouroboros plan... How is it any different from a normal Grand Reset?

My main complain is Van. It’s like the writer can’t think of a way to connect 4spg to this space arc. Van had ABSOLUTELY NO REASON to be against Roy, so they made up stupid reasons for Van to storm the space station. This shit is beyond stupid because Roy and scientists are working their ass off trying TO FUCKING SAVE HUMANITY while Van keeps bitching about “spend time with your daughter to celebrate her birthday you jerk!!!” and “why are you hiding the truth from the public you fascist!!!!” like a little kid throwing a tantrum.

Also it seems like they ran out of strong villains, so they made us spar against allies and neutral named characters instead. Our group has become way too strong for this world lol. Maybe it’s time to go beyond Zemuria to up the power creep.
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>>496350251
Other mysteries:

How many people know about the truth of Zemuria? It seems like many important people like Sondyke and upper echelon of Church know (but not Glassritter?). It’s weird how they’re all so calm about the end of the world. I mean they’re about to be fucking erased and the next (You) won’t be (You) anymore without your present memories.

What’s the Church’s endgame? Nina was officially called Saint of THE END, so they must know about the truth (of course) and embrace it like it’s necessary (to avoid Great Collapse of course). So them hunting Hamilton to maintain the status quo makes sense. If so, then why did Leon and Celis protect Hamilton? Maybe they’re just clueless? Kevin’s route should’ve been more involved with the Church’s inner stuff instead of hanging out with Rufus and the kids. His route didn’t feel like HIS route at all because of this.

What actually triggered the Grand Reset? Humanity being tech-advanced enough to go to the space and found out about the fake sky? That’s it?

What’s the condition to retain your memories in the next reset? During the story, Rean and Crow saw through the fake sky because they’re Awakeners. Are they gonna be immune to the reset? Or maybe Grendel’s hosts like Van and Kincaid too? I mean, there must be a bigger reason why Kincaid stole the Genesis to become a kamen rider too.

How many people in the current timeline actually remember the previous loop, aside from Grandmaster? All/some Anguis/Enforcers? Divine Guardian Beasts?

Are the Remnants gonna disappear or do they have to be re-summoned in the new timeline? Ixs is a non-remannt, but he’s hanging out with the Remnants. What’s gonna happen to him?
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>>496350251
>spend time with your daughter to celebrate her birthday you jerk!!
Yea, that shit is beyond (lol) gay as hell. She wasn't even forced to leave, she just did on her own and they accepted it.
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>>496349494
>Rean will save Kuro timeline
WHAT THE ACTUAL FUCK KONDO!?
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To be fair, all Roy did was accelerate the Great Reset so he should've spent time with his daughter instead of doing this shit
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>>496350432
I think it'll be more of him and Emilia since YKF said he's gonna help guide/train her. So she will get a rematch against the space mech....right?
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La-chan!
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>>496333998
Modders will replace these dancers with Agnes, Elaine, Judith, Celis, Shizuna and the other girls wearing their bunny suits, bikinis, and Z-1 Queen costumes. I can't wait to watch them all dance and jiggle their butts.
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The world's been reset 19999 times.
Surely there'd be tons of people who 'member?
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Van literally just wanted to eat birthday cake, that's why he stormed the place
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To me, it is marduk that accelerated the great reset and not roy.
I mean it is quite suspicious that they manage to spill out shitloads of advanced technologies that even Kekstein Foundation eventually got left behind.
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>>496350251
Outside Zemuria are the lands of demons and full monsters that devoured humanity. Zemuria was the last ark where humans could be safe, so they enclosed it. I made this shit obviously.
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>>496350251
kek Van is confirmed Agnesbrained
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>>496350641
yea but what's the point? they all gonna forget everything anyway
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>>496350617
What allows someone to remember anyway?
>>496350641
This. Super sus. We also see tech erase from peoples hands after Agnes does the reset
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>>496350574
Speak for yourself. I want to see it with Rufus, Aaron, quatre and rean.
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>>496350806
No one cares what you want faggot
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>>496350680
That sounds obvious and literally the plot of Astlibra. can be easily connected to Nayuta's lore as well since Nayuta's world was a super advanced high tech world, right?
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>>496350628
Haha that's our Ban-san.
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>>496350846
It doesn’t matter what i want because I’m gonna do it myself.
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>>496350641
Gilliam is probably another angel, like Quatre. A fallen angel. He's probably doing some sort of "war against God" type of stuff
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>>496350783
>What allows someone to remember anyway?
maybe Awakeners and Grendel? but the question is, this is Loop 20,000 and you're telling me there was no Divine Knights or Grendel tech in Loop No.1-19,999????
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>>496350562
She can give blowjobs standing up.
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Which kiseki guy an outfit like this the most?
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>>496351031
>maybe Awakeners and Grendel?
I thought so too, but then Yume's eyes started glowing. And YKF has neither yet knows everything and even timed when Rean would find out the truth about the reset.
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>>496350927
kek, actually hilarious
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>>496349494
I really also wanna know how does Steel also tie into the other thing YFK and Shizuna talking about to Rean about him obtaining/finding his own sword and why he needs to fight Shizuna in order to obtain it. Like unless those two things are both related to each other it sounds like Rean is set to gain two additional power-ups in Kai 2
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I don't really play kiseki but I came here for spoilers and it seems to me kai no kiseki is some incredibly cringe version of xenosaga/xenoblade 3 with every weebshit twist possible thrown in the mix. Do you actually like it? Also post more of that dark haired space pilot girl.
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>>496351097
Just like Yume, every time she sees Van she sticks to his croach...
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>>496337306
>>496343165
The Kiseki girls love to show us their asses
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So mmh Agnes was the one that pull the big fuck you under everyone nose like she were the big villain?
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She Trails in my Sky till I Zero the Azure Cold Steel and Reverie the Daybreak Kai
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>>496351423
No retard, that was a self-sacrifice she basically saved everyone from the full reset.
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>>496351334
YKF implies that he trained Shizuna for Rean and all the mech shit
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Does Van ever even go to space like in the previews?
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>>496347528
makes vivi genuine is that she shows guys are just for funny scoops but would only be down for rean
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>>496352153
No. It was VR/AR stuff we see. Only Emilia
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>>496341508
The showing for Rean's harem was understandably meager in Kai. They are in a foreign country far from home. Not everyone will be there. Hopefully more Rean girls will show up with him in the next game. Van does have an amazing harem though. No question about it.
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I'll never not be shocked at how many people play using dub
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>>496344946
1. Epstein found out that Zemuria is a caged world that's been Looping and will end at the year of 120x. The loop is caused by Time Sept-Terrion that resides in the outer space.
2. Epstein created Octo-Genesis so it can be used by his descendant (Agnes) to hack the Time Sept-Terrion
3. Epstein's disciple, Prof.Hamilton was working behind the scene to create replica Genesis that has the ability to see/construct things from the past. All the zombie villains were created through this means
4. Because Roy banged Agnes' mom, which is Epstein's daughter, he knew about the truth. Roy doesn't want the world to end so he made plan to invade the space with the latest technology Mecha (Excalibur) and destroy the Time Sept-Terrion in the space. The truce with Ouroboros was for this. Grandmaster allowed Roy to try his best because why the fuck not? he's gonna fail anyway.
5. Rean found out the truth while investigating Roy and met Yun Ka Fai, who worked for Hamilton
6. Kevin found out the truth while chasing memories of Dingo and Prof.Hamilton
7. Van found out the truth while... I forgot, but he met Remnants (zombie Melchior and other dead villains) who told him the truth
8. Van was the only one who managed to get to Roy in time to bitch at him about stuff
9. Meanwhile in the outer space, Excalibur, piloted by the new best girl Emilia managed to destroy Time Sept-Terrion and its high-tech alien-like mobs. HOWEVER, an african-american mech that looks similar to Ishmelga, appeared and one-shot'd Emilia to her demise. The plan has failed.
10. It's revealed that Hamilton turned out to be working with Agnes, Kincaid and Judith's grandma in secret. Kincaid stole all 8 Genesis and transformed into a golden Grendel, which is super OP by the way. and Agnes activated Octo Genesis to hack the Sept-Terrion. instead of turning back time all the way back to Year 0, she turned back time to... I don't think it's revealed? idk.
11. see you next loop

feel free to correct/add detail
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>>496351334
rean is unironically powered through the number of his harem
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>>496352378
>Hopefully more Rean girls will show up with him in the next game
Meh I don't like most of rean's girls, especially from NC7 (minus Altina). I do hope Emma will appear at least, maybe she'll be plot relevant for once.
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>>496352378
Van is Agnesbrained however
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>>496341508
I don’t remember Altina having any connect events with Van
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>>496352615
She doesn't. All she does in Kai is call people so they can go to the garten. That's why she calls Kevin and Van
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>>496352378
>Hopefully more Rean girls will show up with him in the next game.
no one wants wtf, that sounds horrifying
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>>496352762
Nta but if any have a good reason then why not. That applies to everyone, not just his harem.
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Post pic of the Time Ishmelga
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>>496352753
Exactly, then why does it matter if she has “more” interactions with them instead of Rean if all those interactions are meaningless? The ones she had with Rean are far more meaningful, even if she didn’t interact with him as much. Besides, the lack of interaction is made up for in the connect events
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>>496348161
The girls all show their butts in their swimsuits while the boys' butts are respectfully covered up in theirs.
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>>496351192
YKF was friends with Epstein probably, so he knows a lot. it seems like some people had knowledge and passed it down in forms of some kind of tradition, like 回天 in YKF's village or the song (idk what it's about) that's Feri's familiar with,
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So who has the highest chance of appearing in Kai 2?
McBurn, Emma, Gaius, Ries and probably the rest of characters who didn't appear in Kuro 2 popularity poll.
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>>496353267
It doesn't matter. Since anyone from the foundation can do that job.
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I love Emilia
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>>496352762
Based. The group we have now is perfect (even though crow being there kinda ruins things)
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>>496353062
because they're blandest characters in the series by far?
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>>496353380
So does knowing about the reset or something mean you'll remember what happened after a reset happens?
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>>496349494
I think that won't happen. YKF and the gang expected Agnes to reset time to 1206 but instead, due to her still being in love with Van she resets it to 1208. Besides I don't think Rean would want to screw over Crow, Jusis, and Millium.
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The timeline's gonna get pruned in a few months after the start of Kuro 1 even if Gramhart did nothing anyway. How are we gonna escape that?
with 7 Divine Knights, maybe, but they're gone.
>8 Genesis become 8 Nu Divine Knights
>Mecha Grendels
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>>496353563
One of the appealing parts of this series is the returning figures. If there is a legitimate reason for this or that character to return, then I'm okay with it, no matter who it is.
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>>496353429
anelace should appear
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>>496353614
no, but not being ignorant helps.
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>>496353645
I agree. Rean loves Crow, Jusis, and Millium too much to ever want to do that to them
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>>496353429
>Lloyd
Honestly I don't want to see his face ever again.
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>>496353645
>she resets it to 1208
I don't think we know when she resets it to. It's not up to Rean or YKF what year everything is reset, too.
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>>496353457
Right, it doesn’t matter. So what’s the point to keep saying she interacts more with the others then? It’s not like she likes them more or anything lol
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What was Ouroborus' plan during this?
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>>496354198
it's a troll thing so ignore it
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I'm more interested in Demons like McBurn, things that don't play by the goddess rule.
I suspect there was no McBurn in the previous loop and he recently arrived from the outside during the current loop.
He might just survive the reset even without GM's help.
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>>496354267
Grandmaster wants the reset to happen
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Why did Hermes go from Van's Uber Eats deliverer to a shameless tease?
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>>496354267
>sit back and see what Gramheart can do
Basically. GM didn't allow anyone from Ouroboros to help him. So she might want a reset too.
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>>496354267
chilling >>496336464
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Is there actually an image of the mech that slapped Emilia?
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>>496353367
Even Rufus got new, modest swim shorts. But the girls all show their asses as usual. Falcom is amazing
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>>496354410
Why? No one knows. Maybe the helmet was containing her hornyness lol
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>>496353554
No it doesn't. Crow is very based in Kai and probably the best character out of the team, in fact they should make him MC instead of Rean moving forward.
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>>496354418
She didn't allow anyone to intervene. Roy asked for a truce in Hajimari's epilogue.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QY7J7NME_Ss
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>>496354728
Yea even Novartis wanted to help and she said no.
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>>496354601
Now it’s just obvious you’re trolling
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>>496354857
>begged GM to let him help Gramheart, but she refused
>came after GM touched him
poor guy
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>>496352540
Thanks for the resume but the thing at the end to be continued in Van final episode, does it happen later in the game or it's pretty much confirms see you in Kuro no kiseki 3
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>>496353429
McBurn, Emma, Vita and Gaius from Cold Steel
Richard, Ries and Anelace from Sky
Maybe Cedric too
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>>496336923
First Gunlord Blanco, now this
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>>496355178
Kai is Kuro 3
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>>496355206
>Cedric
kek he trained and trained and now everything gets reset.
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>>496354497
They don't want to show it off yet, you'll get a better look of it in Kai 2 when you fight it.
Here is it's back at least.
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>>496355003
trolling?
You should watch a playthrough of Kai yourself, if you don't believe me. Crow actually speaks up and pulls the team in the right directions, he feels like an actual spriggan, the rest are just there as story reactors.
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>>496355263
So whats Van final episode?
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>>496354497
>>496353219
here
>>496333279
and
>>496355314
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>>496355314
Ishmelgabros...
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>>496355314
That looks really cool. And very menacing
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>>496355314
Thanks bro. So, it's a time-controlling mech that can be controlled via eight magical mcguffins. Fufu...
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>>496352540
Kai plot is so dumb. Gramheart is going to fail anyway so we'll lose three games
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What do you think will happen next with the series?
Time septerrions dont seem to be the endgame, how will this series end and how the conlifct with Ouroboros will settle, is the Beyond or the demons be the final antagonist or is it going to be something else?
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>>496355447
Kai 2
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Tell me about Fabio Rosso, why is he so great?
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who
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>>496355314
Would shit have fared differently if they sent a pilot with more pedigree like Crow or Rean?
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>>496355887
probably. At the very least she wouldn't have shot into the stratosphere.
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I hope that they bring Ishmelga Rean back and make him Rean's rival and archenemy (frenemy?) for the remainder of the series.
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>>496355314
I feel like this also belongs to the RAT!
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>>496355887
Still be stoned, i mean rufus,rean and crow never did shit against Ishy Rean and i think ishy rean is equal or maybe weaker than the new mech.
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>>496355887
Most likely would’ve. But then how will Kondo have enough material for Kai 2 haha…
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>>496355887
They would have still instantly jobbed, it's not a case of needing a better pilot but a better machine
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>>496355887
Maybe, but even they'd probably lose. Excalibur was probably not enough on its own. They probably need something on the level of a sept terrion to even stand a chance. Maybe add in those geneses too. Gramheart had nukes and it still didn't work
>>496356053
KEK that would be hilarous.
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Is it possible to sue Falcom for advertising a false product?
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I'm loving Kai more and more. There is so much new info and lore. So much to talk about and discuss.
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>>496356273
The ending really saved this game for me desu. I wish the early parts had this shit too. All we got was some cutesy moments here and there.
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>>496356273
It's so low quality material that I refuse to talk about this shitshow because I know how bad Falcom writers are and they will make the worst choices with the plot
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>>496356389
I love the cute moments
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>>496356190
Also the grendel.
>>496356492
Me too. But it's not really enough to carry the early to middle parts.
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>>496333654
Kind of surprised nobody has commented on the fact that Quatre's now basically a woman
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>>496356052
If they do bring him back then they should give him an outfit that is less tryhard and edgelord. Maybe a suit like the one he wore in the recent chibi anniversary art. That would be a nice look for Ishmelga Rean
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I just remember that there was a stone statue that looks exactly like Excalibur.
That means in the previous loop Gramhart also tried to invade the space and failed?
What if, in Loop #19,998, which was near identical to the current loop, Kincaid was actually the 1st Grendel user and he retained his memory from that loop. This time he wanted Van to have the blue Grendel, so they can cooperate in the next loop to prevent another reset? Kincaid seems to know more than the others, even got mad at Elaine and Van before the final battle "YOU KNOW NOTHING ABOUT ME!!"
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I'm still waiting for McBurn vs McFreeze. Their fight could lead to McBurn shattering Grendel and making Van turn into the demon lord.
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>>496355672
Obviously, once they broke the loop, they'd find a way to survive The Great Collapse. I mean, that's the whole reason Aidios set up the Time Septerrion in the first place. to protect Zemuria from its inevitable demise.
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>>496356873
Van likely didn't exist in previous loops because he's Vagrants' vessel
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>>496355887
nah, not-Ishmelga can fucking warp and shoot super lasers. we also don't know the limit of Time Sept-Terrion's healing (self-rewind) power.
Maybe they could do it with all the Divine Knights. I mean, DKs are literally sept-terrions. 2 of them, even.
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>Kai
Destroys Kiseki's Lore with the worst plot twists ever that make the Curse seem like something harmful
>Shounenfags
AAAAA I want to see poorly animated fights between characters
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>>496357057
maybe Kincaid was Elaine's boyfriend in the previous loop, and now he got cucked lol
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>>496357206
So either every DK returns or it's just Ishemlga that somehow returns
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>>496356621
Story is going to be worthless regardless with how Falcom is now. I literally just care about the characters at this point. For me it’s
>see Altina
>see her with Rean
>like game
Simple as. Routes kinda put a hindrance on this, but at least the other groups have some cool characters too
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>>496357352
That could be it, but maybe his Elaine was a very different person without Van existence.
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I wish this was a light novel instead.
video game is more expensive and high effort, so 1-2 flops could doom the series.
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>>496357415
Fair enough. I can't lie, I just want cool entertaining shit to happen, so I'm kinda skeptical about them as well.
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>>496357478
If kiseki wasn't a game then there wouldn't be walking around cities talking to npcs, then it wouldn't kiseki anymore.
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Speaking of Vagrants, I wonder if he's gonna make his comeback next game, if the next loop doesn't have Geneses due to Agnes' stunt Van might just have to take his powers straight from the source
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>>496357393
Think rationally given Falcom's asset reuse, they'll just reuse Valimar/Zoa and Excalibur for a 2v1 mech battle
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>We will have two possible outcomes for Kai:

It sells more or less well and many fans drop the franchise here because they are tired of this series that is not going anywhere.

Or

Kai sells poorly because we are already suffering from Falcom's bad choices with Kuro 1 and 2
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>>496357478
But how will we ever wank to their 3D models then?
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Reminder to not ship either assassin slut with their respective protagonist. As seen with Rixia Kondom will have them end up with some random newly made man after the arc they appear in.
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>>496357651
It hurts that this is true. Damm them and their laziness.
>>496357478
Nah I like it as games.
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>>496357610
Irrelevant content since everything will be reseted anyway
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>>496357646
>Speaking of Vagrants, I wonder if he's gonna make his comeback next game
When fighting against a time space cube, you will most likely need the power of a time demon lord.
So I would be surprised if he doesn't show up again next game.
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>>496357801
Amazing art! They both look so sexy and cool
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>>496357610
I never talk to NPC and I skip all sidequests
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>>496357697
Kuro 1 was good. It just wasn't good enough to recover after Hajimari. So Falcom gave up and just gave us more the 3rd and Hajimari style games because they are easier to make.
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>>496357926
You didn't play the game.
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What's the strategy guide exclusive costume gonna be for Kai?
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>>496358112
The Agnes dress
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>>496358112
Will she ever get hitched?
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>>496357860
Van Seizes total control of Vagrants and fights alongside with Rean, Crow, and Emilia in Space.
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>>496357926
Soulless.
>>496358112
Hopefully some type of cool military uniform for Van. Make it french style. Or it's >>496358169
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>>496358112
I want to fuck Renne so much.
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>>496358279
you and thousands of old men
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>>496358191
That would be fucking epic.
>>496358279
She needs a super pure boi to contrast her
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>>496358321
I'm old now. I want to fuck her. Please Kondo, give me an ending.
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>>496357860
Vagrants said himself that he will be back and Van can't escape him since they're one and the same. Also Vagrants-zion description said that he's a demon lord who is destined to devour the world, so I guess it could refer to Vagrants-zion destroying the time sept-terrion and freeing Zemuria from its cage, but ultimately it will result in the merge between Zemuria and the beyond.
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>>496358112
Grimrabbit costume for Altina.
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>>496358468
That'd mean Ouroboros plan failed and they wasted their effort this whole time
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>>496358619
>Ouroboros plan failed
Good. GM needs to lose for barley showing up.
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Can't wait for Grendel-Vagrants
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Future costumes that I would like to see, in Kai II or whenever, would be variations of Arioch's armor for the guys and Olympia's ribbon/bandage costume in different colors for the girls. I think that would be cool
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>>496358619
Well it just says in his description, it could actually be the normal ending where Van destroys the time sept-terrion, but then we'll get the true ending where there's another way.
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>>496358994
I don't think even Falcom is crazy enough to dress Feri up like that.
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Rean takes Van and co to space and gets them inside the cube so they can fight whatever is inside. Meanwhile, Emilia and the knights fight the new mech
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>>496358842
same
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I love Kai so much bros. It gave us so much cute stuff
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>>496353367
>>496354501
Least insecure /fg/ male
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>>496359473
Kill yourself
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>>496357558
Yeah at least the fights are cool now. The Rean vs Shizuna one looked good for how little we got, and so was the YKF one. The mech fight at the end was pretty sick too. It’s like Falcom traded their writing for better animations and visuals kek
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>>496358112
The girls always get gratuitous booty shots in these pictures. I freaking love it
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Kai won
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>>496358547
We’ve already got
>her cute default
>bunny suit
>swimsuit
>her cute cs4 default
And now you want to add a grimrabbit outfit? I can only cum so much anon…
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>>496359725
Can't, Kai made me too happy
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>>496358547
>Grimrabbit costume for Altina.
Holy sex yes please
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>Give cute shit
>ended up ruining kevin by being massive moralfags to the worst person possible(hamilton)
Should really gas picnicfags(aside from rufus).
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>>496359473
These two just keep getting cuter and more canon. And when you think that they can't possibly get any more cute and canon Falcom somehow manages to make them even MORE cute and canon
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Why doesn't Falcom like its female coomer fans? They should give us what we want. Kondom needs to be ryona'd, preferably with a plastic bag over his head so no one sees his ugly face.
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Who did it better?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yiaddORSEFw
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j6z8gRrjJtU
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>>496360376
The "picnic squad is going to ruin Kevin's route" meme has never been so real
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>>496360461
kys tranny
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>>496360376
Kevin was the realest nigga in Kai. Who were the two moralfags that stopped him again?
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>>496348161
>No swimsuit for Fie
>Good chance of there being no bunnysuit
Why is Falcom so gay?
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>>496359634
We are going to go here again, right?
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>>496360461
I‘m kind of feeling the same way. I want uniforms, bodysuits and black tanktop costumes for Rean.
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I think it's pretty safe to assume that we won't get the new protagonist. Kai 2 and the next game that will follow it will probably have routes with every protagonist, if anything I think Kai 2 might even cover the far east a bit since Shizuna kinda foreshadowed it when she invited Van. He was even suprised that Shizuna just randomly dropped something meaningful in there.
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>>496360486
How much of Calvard's GDP was flushed down the drain when this happened?
>>496360718
Nta, but as long I get nice looking suits or military uniforms I'll be happy.
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Emilia kissed Crow and Rean, then she kissed Van, then finally she kissed dirt.

She died as she lived.
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>>496360486
RIP best girl
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>>496360581
If I were trans, i'd be celebrating right now actually. There's a lot of lolicon trannies.
>>496360718
What type of uniforms? Tight bodysuits and reverse bunnysuits are the way to go desu. Preferably on Kevin because im a skybooner but quarter and Aaron as well.
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They transformed Hermes into a generic anime girl and now fg/ cares about the character hahahaha
Otakus
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>>496360686
It seems like an important place and considering that demon lords will finally play a role in the story, it's pretty much guaranteed
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>>496360486
She gets folded quick. What the hell was that
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>>496360680
bunnysuit dlc was labelled with a <vol. 1>
just wait and trust the plan, we will get jolda too
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>>496361093
We've already seen some of the bunnysuits from Volume 2. If Towa gets a bunnysuit but not Fie I'm going to have a melty.
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>>496358994
I would like to see the CS4 wedding attire for Altina and Rean. It was cute how they matched and I think it would look great in-game.
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>>496360984
>character gets more narrative focus and ends up being more likeable as a result
WOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOW THE OTAKUS NOW LIKE NOVARTIS AND ROY HOW DARE THEY
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>>496360454
They're the best!
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>>496360996
Man I want to see the other demon lords, we only know Ban-san's so far, Mcburn has to come back too.
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Kai story is so dumb
Instead of Ouroboros fufuing we also have Hamilton, Agnes and Kincaid fufuing besides Nina. Kevin is the only good thing about his route. Rean route is pure shounen trash anime quality. Why do this to Kiseki? Worse writing than Kimetsu no Yaiba and the animation doesn't even come close.
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>>496360976
I like police and military uniforms. Not the camouflage type but like the ones Nazis used to wear. I like bunnysuits too, but I don’t think I could concentrate on the game with Rean‘s butt out all the time…
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>>496360486
So did she die? She gets blasted point-blank
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>>496361736
Seems so, it was never confirmed but doesn't matter with the time reset she will be alive.
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>>496361470
We've seen the butts of all the female characters in this picture
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https://youtu.be/fxPCEjHXcCA?t=1556
Here's your Sky remake battle theme bro
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>>496361495
I think Rene is also a Demon lord if having a Grendel is anything to go by
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>>496361837
They did her dirty, lol. Oh, well, I hope she gets a rematch.
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>>496361585
Nazi uniforms are objectively hot and I'm not even that racist. Which guy do you think would look the best in one?
>I like bunnysuits too, but I don’t think I could concentrate on the game with Rean‘s butt out all the time…
Honestly seeing the mens asses and abs out might make the shitfest known as Kai more bearable desu.
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Gouran and Rixia will make some strong babies.
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>>496361935
That synth is jarring as always but the rest is fine
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>>496361454
They completely changed the character's personality. She was a mature and mysterious woman in Kuro 1/2. In Kai she looks like a generic LN heroine.

At least Nina remained consistent despite her being one of those poorly written characters that makes no sense to have in the series. She can see the past and future but that didn't mean anything in Kuro 1 and 2 since she was acting like an idiot in both games
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Why did he do it
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>>496361585
>but like the ones Nazis used to wear
Based Shizuna sis. Gib the guys those. the girl fans should get coom shit too
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>>496362090
yep and cao will be a happy uncle. because it means more pawns in cao's game.
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since Kai 2 is a thing, what are the chances of getting 2 Falcom projects per year? we still got
>Sora the 1st
>TX 2
>another new IP (?)
>Kai 2 obviously
>Ys 11
I think it'd also make the release time between titles less of a slog and Yskeks/Kisekifags don't have to wait 2 years for a new game.
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Remember when people would get super mad and insult you if you argued that Rixia's character got retconned?
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>>496360486
That's just Ishmelga
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>>496362328
Cao wouldn't use his own fucking nephews and nieces to get ahead would he?
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>>496362194
Roy’s plan failed so he needed to grab the Geneses for Agnes’s plan
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>>496362474
They made sure to say it's not him, though. And YKF said Steel being gone makes this outcome inevitable. So it has to be a whole new, separate thing.
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>>496362406
Kisekitards will have to wait for their slop in 2027. Ys XI is likely for 2026.
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>>496362406
>2025
TX2 and Sora the 1st
>2026
Gurumin and Ys XI
>2027
Kai 2 and Sora the 2nd
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speaking of Sora the 1st, do we know what "Van's Episode" was about? I hope that it won't be a FF7R situation where the changes contribute nothing alongside resetting 10 games of history. ideally no spoilers doko as I'm just trying to experience Kai mostly blind and just want have an idea of what they're going to do moving forward since I already. I do know of the ending hence why the question though
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>>496360686
Definitely, most likely for a boss fight where Van and friends fight a full-powered Vagrants just so Van can finally face his inner demons and seize total control once and for all.
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If there will be a Kai 2 then that means we have one more game on the PS4/5 before Falcom moves on to the switch fully.
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>>496362060
why do you obsess over wanting to see the mens asses?
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One of these two things will happen:
>Gramheart will not remember, and Agnes will have been wiped out. He will not run and instead be a miserable man but not understand why until he does remember later in the story. Rocksmith will have won another term
or
>Gramheart remembers and goes fucking ballistic, actually becoming a real antagonist with evil intent in general, and in particular towards Hamilton and her accomplices
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>Time Sept-Terrion can reproduce the result of two other Sept-Terrions' fusion
Higher elements are crazy
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Kai 2 it won't happen
We'll move on to the next arc and explore Water and Wind before Time again.
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>>496362709
>Gurumin
I'd be all over the moon. I'd also like a new IP so I'm fine with either one. Just something that isn't the usual Kiseki slop.
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>>496362818
2nd option sounds more entertaining
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>>496362754
Shup retard.
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>>496362060
Tough question, I think Nazi uniforms boost every man up by like 3 points. It just looks really attractive to me. It would look cute on characters like Quatre, and really hot on characters like Rean. It would even make Van look bearable, despite his really long face.
My favorite is always going to be Rean though, especially his Kai design ticks off all my boxes.
Kevin would look pretty fucking awesome too. Just give them all Nazi uniforms!
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>>496362754
Van's episode will be like FF7 remake: Kuro 1/2 events in a new timeline
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>>496362850
Exactly. I'm just laughing at all these retards screaming KAI 2. Van and co's story will obviously continue. In the next and likely final arc.
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There was nothing wrong with killing Hamilton, Kevin got robbed
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>>496361093
They gave Celis a new racing costume. I hope they give her a bunny suit as well.
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>>496362976
holy based shizuna sis. it makes sense for rean too since he's erebonian/german
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>>496362861
>new IP
having it be turn based and actual good bosses would be nice doko. Kiseki games are fun gameplay wise but the bosses are incredibly boring and don't require that much strategy outside of "equip X, Y or Z and then one-shot the boss" post-Third, maybe Crossbell too. who knows though, we'll see
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>>496362194
The RAT!
>>496362406
The Tacoman. What happens when both of these would clash? Only God knows.
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>>496363103
It wouldn't even have mattered if he did, what with the reset.
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>>496362976
Are you dumb? Fuck this shit. Of course Shitzunafag has mental problems.

>>496362689
I don't even care anymore. Kai killed the series for me. I will still here until famitsu sales and will move on.
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>>496362406
They're definitely returning to 2 games per year. Since there's no way they've got a backlog of projects this long with their current release schedule.
It would make sense to release Kai 2 next year considering they wanna keep the cliffhanger fresh on peoples' minds. But we're already getting Sky remake next year so they'll probably give us Xanadu instead to prevent fatigue. 2026 is for Kai 2 and Ys V remake. 2027 is for SC remake and the new IP.
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>>496362834
Higher element Sept-terrions are broken as fuck

Space - Reads minds and grants any wish
Mirage - Manipulates Causality
Time - Resets Timelines

Fire and Earth is just power over Soul and Matter, powerful but nithing compared to those three
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>>496363249
Nta but what's wrong with more costumes that aren't coomer stuff
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>>496363249
I'm only on Falcom's ride for TX2 at this point. If that game sucks ass like the rest of their modern offerings, I'm done with the company.
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Is the full time reset the Zemurian Apocalypse? Or does time reset to avoid the Zemurian Apocalypse?
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>>496362194
>A world stained by falsehood welcomes a new end and beginning.
>Humanity could not kill God, but the "dawn" will surely come to fruition.
>No matter what must be sacrificed.
>For Elaine's sake as well.
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>496363249
newfag here, how many times have you oldheads seen the "this game killed the series for me BUT I will still be active on this thread". I remember anons mentioning CS4, Reverie (?) and Kuro 2 as games that "killed" their interest. are there any others I'm missing?
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>>496363165
>Kiseki games are fun gameplay wise
Meh. They're OK at best. Really weak at worst. I agree the boss design is a joke with these games. Poorly implemented.
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>>496362816
Because I'm straight? What's not clicking?>>496362976
My thing with Quatre is that it's ooc with him being angelic and all, I just prefer cuter clothes on the shotas. But I could see it if he were wearing boyshorts.
>Kevin would look pretty fucking awesome too
YES! It fits his personality too, he would totally pull it off with tight leather pants. Damn now I wanna see him powertripping in a nazi uniform. It would look very cute on Rean as well.
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Kai love
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>>496363249
…why do I have mental problems for wanting outfits according to my taste?
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Funny how people here are always saying they're done with Falcom and they're leaving forever but the threads never seem to slow down afterwards.
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Uh guys I thought Altina was supposed to have no motivations outside of 'Muh Rean'...
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>>496363602
/fg/ has always been crazy fast, especially for games that aren't live-service
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>>496363407
"Return to Nothingness" implies the Grand Reset. The reset is a failsafe to prevent anyone going or breaking the fake sky that the time cube set up, so whatever's beyond those walls is certainly a threat.
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>>496362194
>grendel (((shaddai)))
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>>496361952
I wonder which element he governs if that's the case.
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>>496363285
>It would make sense to release Kai 2 next year considering they wanna keep the cliffhanger fresh on peoples' minds.
Geniunely nobody cares. That kind of retarded thinking is what got people burnt out with Kiseki to begin with.
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>>496363294
>Reset time to activate the Aureole in order to stop further time loops
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The Grand Reset will:
>reset back to Sky FC remake
>reset to Kuro 1
>Cliffhanger & start of new arc
One of these.
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>>496363619
It’s just Altina antis being retarded. No need to acknowledge them
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>>496363546
I enjoy the customizability and options ever since CS4 but I see where you're coming from. I just wish we could have actual good boss design alongside either arts or crafts being useless since the other option is just that much better
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>>496363546
Kiseki gameplay have more mechanics and complexities than most jrpgs. Especially compared to Atlus trash which is just buff party, debuff enemy, exploit elemental weakness, win.
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>>496363892
>Kiseki gameplay have more mechanics and complexities than most jrpgs.
Best laugh I got all year.
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>>496363602
they never leave and like to stomp on everyone else's fun
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>>496363871
Yeah. It's boss design is honestly one of the weakest in terms of JRPGs. They really need to get talent working on it.
>>496363892
Persona and SMT utterly mog Kiseki in terms of gameplay. Kiseki just hides it's flaws through tactical RPG but even that is inferior to FE's.
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Why yes I am a falcom cultist, how could you tell?
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do pokemon for babies schizos really need to throw a temper tantrum every single day
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The anons who keep saying Sora remake is post-reset are just shitposting right? Nobody genuinely believes that...?
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>>496364296
You worship your company's slop like a good boy? Make you finish that Kiseki tattoo on your forehead today.
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>>496357801
I can't wait to line them both up and compare their bare asses to one another
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>>496364296
Agnesfags.... your response?
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>>496364524
The tattoo is going on my balls
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>>496364570
my wife
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Give Van this costume!
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>>496364393
A Kekseki kid like you shouldn't be calling other games "babies".
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>>496364397
I'm scared Lloydanon, it might just be a joke but this is Falcom so a 7Remake situation wouldn't be off the table.
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>>496364696
but smt is just dumbed down pokemon
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>>496364075
>>496364287
Trails mechanics throughout the series
>Turn order bonuses and manipulation
>Movement
>Break
>Brave Orders
>Link attacks
>Impede
>Evasion
>Delay
>Shard skills
Meanwhile the only mechanics SMT has in its entirety is buffs and debuffs.
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>>496364524
I am a master Kiseki slop eater. I eat this garbage like McDonald's. It tastes so goddamn good even if I know the quality is underwater. It's so cheap bug it tastes good in my damn tummy. I am a goddamn Kiseki slop eater. I can't stop eating this trash.
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>>496364780
But as others have said before, it's coming out in English before Kai. Why would Falcom do that if it were meant to be played after Kai?
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>>496352540
My bet is considering what we have seen with the fake Octo-Genesis is the reason why we need Steel is because Time literally just can replicate anything that has happened or existed. Basically it can make its own version of Ishmelga and the Divine Knights.
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>>496364864
You forgot
>Overdrive
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>>496364972
Nta but the Cold Steel saga came out before Crossbell in the west. Kondo might just add a ew lines and scenes that confirm it
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>>496364854
You never played either game. And SMT predates Pokémon so you look more retarded but that's a Kekseki kid for you. You wouldn't know something that you weren't around for. It's my job to teach 2010 kids like you what's right.
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>>496362976
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>>496364864
A number of those elements are fucking worthless lmao. And others is shit that other JRPGs do but 100 times better.
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>>496365204
I'd prefer if he looked like someone from the German Empire, since that's more similar to Erebonia than Nazi Germany.
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>>496365164
i unfortunately have played them which is why i can tell you there is not a single mechanic in the entire 50 game franchise besides elemental weakness. it's a series designed to teach kids how to match their colors in a fun way and that's it
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>>496365154
True, but in the wake of Falcom saying they want to reduce localization timeframes, why would they want to introduce a problem like out-of-order releases again? It just doesn't make any sense.
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I'm the worst person here.
I consume not just kiseki but also atelier which is both garbage games.
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>>496364946
my sides
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>>496364864
You forgot Combination Crafts.
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>Oh, let me introduce you. This is my wife, Altina. We actually just got married, haha!
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>>496364864
>Quantity over quality
>Good

Kisekichuds are a joke
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>>496365482
You haven't played them which is why you're shitposting like the Kekseki kid you are. Mad that your games are bottom of the barrel compared to everything else?
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>>496365354
Each one of them is needed when playing on nightmare mode so good job on exposing yourself on never having played the games.
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Honestly one of the best ending sequences in Kiseki, if not the best...
https://youtu.be/oTTG_Ohjye4?si=eTHaGVMtbTzaTS94
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>>496365483
>Falcom saying
I don't think trusting Falcom's word is an option anymore.
>why would they want to introduce a problem like out-of-order releases again?
Because they're gonna remake the entire series. The reset started a new timeline, and the Sky FC remake is the first game in that timeline
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>literally Gerard with Aaron's hair
Kisekitards call this effort?
>>496365857
They aren't. They're superfluous garbage.
>le nightmare mode
Oh that pathetic excuse again?
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>>496364864
Press turn order, Smirk system, Magatsuhi skills. Were different system introduced in latest SMT, some remained through every game like press turn system. It doesn't feel like they need to add that many things because the demon/persona fusion at its core is very robust so it might overcomplicate things

Persona also has social skill that seems Cold Steel wanted to introduce per friendship/love meter in their games with the bond system. It was severly lacking in CS while in P5 drastically improved a lot of passives in game.
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>>496365958
>bbbbut it doesnt count!
Not even that guy but you sound like a faggot
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SMT are real RPGs and not this shit story with garbage gameplay without any balance and full of unnecessary mechanics. SMT has fewer systems but at least they work. Law, Gray, Chaos in Kiseki is a joke compared to SMT for example.
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>>496364864
>>496365107
I miss overdrive, forcing several turns with your partner was kino
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>>496365857
tbf i can't blame him for not wanting to touch these games. they're so bad especially the 3d ones.
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>>496364397
I hope so, but this is /fg/ we're talking about
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>>496366092
>Persona also has social skill that seems Cold Steel wanted to introduce per friendship/love meter in their games with the bond system
Shit Kiseki stole with Sen lmao. Oh and Falcom reused it again with TX. Their games blatantly stole from Persona and Kisekitards have the audacity to talk down to their superiors.
>>496366104
>Not even that guy
Sure.
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>>496365941
In another world maybe. In our world this ending is complete garbage and destroys a good part of Kiseki's lore because of another cliffhanger sequel bait.
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>>496362818
Definitely want to see Gramheart on the Warpath. Though there's a chance that Hamilton and company exposes all of the shady stuff that Gramheart has been up to, therefore causing him to lose power and stop his space plans.
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What if the next mainline Kekseki game just starts a new arc?
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>>496366125
Me too.
>>496366365
>Hamilton and company exposes all of the shady stuff that Gramheart has been up to
That would be scummy since all he was trying to do was save everyone
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>>496365687
Because buffing yourself and debuffing your enemy is such a quality mechanic that requires 1000 IQ to utilize.
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Where is Ulrica-chan...
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>>496366106
>SMT has fewer systems but at least they work
I mean they copied it all from Pokemon so I'd hope so
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>>496366509
Honestly? After the garbage that was these last 2 games I hope this happens.
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Overdrive was retarded
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>>496366509
That's what I said here >>496363804
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>>496366513
Rean and Alisa look so good together
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>>496366567
It involves more brain usage than spamming Chrono Burst or Arc Feather

>>496366737
FUCK YOU KYS
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>>496333115
SLUT WHORE SKANK
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>>496366567
Yeah and linking to party members is soooo revolutionary and awesome!!!
>>496366613
SMT predates Pokémon you braindead ape.
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>>496366737
I love her CS2 design. Easily her best one for me.
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>>496366365
I guess? That would mean they lose everything too though, since they were accomplices
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>>496365941
I agree. When Yume calls Agnes „beautiful“ I always tear up and my throat gets dry. Please someone save my girl.
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>>496366125
>Rean: Here goes!
>Rean/Fie: O V E R D R I V E
So fucking kino
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>>496366907
>Yeah and linking to party members is soooo revolutionary and awesome!!!
It was en vogue during the mid 2010s yes. Tales of Xillia did that too
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>>496366509
it definitely will. we'll get a new mc and cast down east and we'll learn they have the key in helping with the whole time loop with the sept terrion of time by using the sept terrion of water hidden there. they will cooperate with van and his group in the end.
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>>496366509
I doubt it. Van is just too popular to ever move away from
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>>496367028
Yume is one big mystery. Her eyes were glowing and everything
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>>496366432
Cute, sexy rump
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>>496366862
>Chrono Burst or Arc Feather
Some of the most useless and laziest gameplay mechanics in JRPG.
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>>496366862
>imagine needing Arc Feather in Kuro 1.
>https://youtu.be/Fx41r93EodA?si=jL5H-Twte7vqFZ6L
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>>496333115
Elainebros?
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>>496366432
nice butt
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>>496367028
Don't you worry, Yume will be the one kickstart Van's grand adventure.
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>>496367104
>Kiseki copied from Tales
No surprise given it's nature
>copied one of the dumbest gameplay elements from the game
Of course Shitseki would copy the worst shit.
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>>496366862
>>496367302
Just don't use them, unlike SMT you're not limited to one play style like buffing and debuffing every boss fight. You actually have freedom on what strats to use in Kiseki combat.
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>>496366707
yeah but in a fun way
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>>496366509
That's 100% going to happen. I remember how people must have thought we'd get a followup to SSS after Ao's blatant cliffhanger and yet we got a new arc right afterwards.
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>>496367624
yea bring that back.
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>Cry about Kiseki cultists
>Spend more time here than anyone else for the past 5 years
Hm...
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>>496367590
I'll never understand how SMT got the reputation of being the mechanically complex jrpg
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>>496367201
Haha, I like Van but he's definitely not the most popular kiseki character, he's probably the most popular Calvard character and will be in the top 5 in the next popularity poll but that's it. Kondo is probably the biggest Vanfag though.
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>>496367730
He's a tourist. Stop taking his bait.
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>>496367769
Its a kneejerk reaction of contrarians off the success of Persona 3 back in the late 2000s. Notice how those are the same praising Persona 1 and 2 as well
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>>496360486
I see Kondo was inspired

https://youtu.be/T90O__q04OE?si=paUJCU0fJkHg-rTq
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>>496367590
>You actually have freedom on what strats to use in Kiseki combat
But when all the other options are shit too, what am I supposed to do?
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>>496366509
So you're saying my man Van will become the main protagonist in the next arc?
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I just watched the end of Kai and.... The game that was supposed to advance the plot ends up regressing the plot.... Hahahahahahaha. We went up to 90% and went back to 75% again at the end hahahahaha Fuck this shit
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>>496367917
Persona 2 IS is a PS1 game and yet it still mogs the Sky games in terms of gameplay.
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Kiseki has a disgusting amount of walled men, and people call Elaine and Sara hags.
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>>496366509
This post and its replies are proof of /fg/'s profound mental retardation.
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>>496368072
OH GOD DAMN IT
HOW DOES /m/ KEEP WINNING
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>496368279
I rest my case.
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>>496368151
Yeah. Remember Kuro no Kiseki Final Chapter that Kuro 2 ended with?

Van's gonna be important in the next arc but he won't be the primary MC anymore.
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>>496368072
KONDOOOOOOOOOO
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>>496368460
So basically what happened to Lloyd in Cold Steel and now Rean in Kuro.
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Stop talking to yourself already.
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>>496368083
Use your brain and understand all the mechanics properly like this guy did.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SNr72RMXIS8
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>>496366509
pretty much yeah. only absolute braindamaged retards think it's gonna be a 4th calvard arc game. kai ended the calvard arc but not the overall story.
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>>496367590
>Just don't use them
I can say the same about buffs and debuffs
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The reason why Kai is such a disappointment is because we literally went through an entire game where not a single thing happens just before Kai (kuro 2)
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>>496368072
What the fuck is this
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>>496368642
Yea, the sequel starts a new arc & will take place in Sky FC remake
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>>496367097
I killed cs2's final boss by using an overdrive followed by rean and fie's s crafts, it was fun
speaking of cs2, the mecha link attacks in cs2 were fucking kino with the two characters saying the attack name together
https://youtu.be/9V1XQvxJyxk&t=74
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am i retarded or is fie not even an option on the popularity poll kek
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>>496368616
So I have to shift through multiple shit gameplay mechanics to finally find a balance? Doesn't sound like good games to me.
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>>496368460
>Van's gonna be important in the next arc but he won't be the primary MC anymore.
Consideting how much we still don't know about Van, I'm pretty sure he'll be the primary protagonist again.
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>>496362663
>>496362474
3d printed shard ishmelga from another time layer
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>>496368559
Yes. Van's Final Episode is in the next/final arc.
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>>496368815
Which one?
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>>496368083
Like what strats are bad exactly? I'm really curious. Infinite arts with Rean CS4 before Falcom patched that shit? Sledgehammer-Windblade CS3? Magius-Morgan Vita supported Crow in Reverie? Scorpio-Chevalier SU'd Arcane Gale with Rean? Status ailments and debuffs that actually work on bosses, something that's almost unheard of in most JRPGs? I mean, I could go on really. Just because Chrono Burst spam is the meta doesn't mean that it's the only overpowered ability CS games had.
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>>496368996
That's a big cliffhanger to leave us on. Isn't everything on borrowed time after the reset and that everyone needs to scramble to try and beat the time sept terrion?
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>>496368723
Yeah. What a hilarious way to end the Calvard arc. Nothing happens and then loop it back.
>>496368942
We know enough about him and whatever we don't know about him still could easily be covered in the next arc.
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>>496368072
Kondo has always been a /m/an. Afterall, mask niggas as villains is a tradition
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>>496369004
https://www.falcom.co.jp/enquete/form.php?title=kai
This should be the link to it but I already sent mine in
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>>496368820
Same can be said with playing SMT without buffs and debuffs.
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>>496368072
It all makes sense... the timeline resets, the Great Collapse, it's the Black History....
WE EVEN HAVE MACHINES AND PEOPLE FROM PRIOR TIMELINES
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You niggers said the same shit about Kai and it still ended up being a Kuro game.
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>>496369217
>I already sent mine in
I tried that and it didn't work.
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>>496369132
>Status ailments and debuffs that actually work on bosses, something that's almost unheard of in most JRPGs?
You really just proved the only JRPG you've ever played is Kiseki.
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>>496368780
If /m/ wins and we get mecha kino back, the potential of mecha link attacks with Rean and fie/Altina would make me cream myself
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>>496369151
They'll beat the Sept Terrion of Time with the Sept Terrion of Water found deep in eastern Zemuria. Where the next arc will take place along with the new cast.
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>>496369357
Yeah I saw people in the last thread couldn't get it to work but mine worked first try
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>>496360486
>>496368072
>even when /m/ loses, /m/ wins
I kneel...
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>>496369161
>We know enough about him and whatever we don't know about him still could easily be covered in the next arc.
I stand by my point, Van will be the primary protagonist again.
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>>496369568
lmao it will likely be this.
>>496369698
he won't but keep coping
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>>496369217
Nta but thanks. I’ll be voting Altina
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You're getting another Van game
>B-But!
He's the protagonist
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>>496369375
You can't spam delay buster on bosses in FF10. Unless you're telling me to bank on Vanille's instant death in FF13 on Adamantoise's. Or you wanna tell me that you can use Stun Shot on SRW OGs by having Rai/Ratsel/Leona on bosses by using Fury so you can make sure that it actually hits or modern SRW games using Direct Attack just to hit Armor Breaker. Also, don't try to tell me you could inflict status ailments and debuffs on Legend of Legaia because the game explicitly states that it has no effect (other than Nighto's instant death ability on one specific boss only). I mean, I could go on if you want me to.
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>>496369898
>>496369772
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>>496368072
KINO
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>>496368723
Kuro 2 was a mistake
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Remember when /fg/ said that the interview confirmed that Rean's route would be half the game and then it ended up being 10% at most
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>>496369971
>Y-You're just coping
It's happening, accept it
Van is handsome, cool and deserves 19 more games
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>>496369954
You rambled about how Kiseki is the only JRPG where status debuffs work on bosses and I pointed out you didn't play any other JRPGS. FF does it. DQ does it. Hell even that one Megaman JRPG did it too.
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>>496370171
>t.Agnes
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>>496370124
No. I remember when Kondo said he and Kevin would get like 40% and Van 60% when in reality Van got like 70-80%
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>>496369772
>he won't but keep coping
So far I was right about rean having the shortest route and shizuna fucking off to Van once her fight is over. It seems to me like you're the one who's coping reanspic
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Just reset my shit up, Agnes
I'm ready
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>>496370124
with no payoff cuz everything got reset anyway
with Kevin and Van at least we learned about Hamilton and Zemuria
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>>496370261
Kondo isnt good with percentages. Hell his 90% completion interview is realistically just 70%
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>>496370198
Which Megaman JRPG? Megaman X Command Mission or the Gameboy games? Cause I haven't played with the latter so I will yield at least on that one. As for the former, Command Mission didn't really have any bosses weak to status ailments and debuffs IIRC other than elemental weaknesses (fuck me, I keep forgetting to not use Absolute Zero on water enemies, healing them instead).
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>>496370343
i'm no reanspic. i hate rean and i like shitting on reanspics. you will still be enjoying a new mc next game with a new arc. van will still be involved so idk why you're complaining.
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>>496370543
I think you're replying to tamalefag. He calls everyone that
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>>496370431
Novartis backstory and Rene being the main human antagonist of the arc as well. Calvard has lacked one unless anyone really thought Gramheart was that guy.
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>>496370529
>Command Mission didn't really have any bosses weak to status ailments and debuffs IIRC
I know you're full of shit because you were able to hit Jango and that fire bird robot with debuffs. I explicitly remembered doing just that when I played it years ago.
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>>496370543
Delusion 100
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I love Rufus and La-chan
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>>496368072
HE CAN'T KEEP GETTING AWAY WITH IT
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>>496370661
I wouldn't say Rene was the main antagonist just because he's the final boss of the game.

>>496370706
Are you talking about Spyder's slot machine charge attack? Cause if so, I'll yield on that. I admit by mid game, I was just using Axel bait and just spamming invisible on him while everyone else wails on the boss (fuck those two Rafflesia fights).
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>>496369305
How long has Kondo been waiting in this.......
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Blowing inside Quatre while we watch the new ouroslut stream together, I love the orbalnet.
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>>496370431
We learn about the reset & Gramheart's plan first in Rean's route im pretty sure
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>>496368072
What the FUCK is that shit?
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>>496370862
They are so charming together
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>>496371282
Oh, just Black History Turn A Gundam aka what happens when Turn A decides it stopped holding back and bring everything back to the stone age. Nothing too special.
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This was a comfy thread. Well, mostly
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This was funnier in my head
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>>496371549
lol
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can someone explain to me why japs considered real relatable, but not van?
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>>496371440
WHAT THE FUCK
SO ALL OF THIS WAS SOME FUCKING GUNDAM REFERENCE
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>>496371549
It's still pretty funny
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>>496371746
Rean has self-esteem & confidence issues when his arc starts. That's probably why.
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>>496371440
>>496369305
>>496368072
/m/ won yet again
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RESET ME NOW FAGNES
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>>496371751
Honestly though, Kai's finale feels more like Lagann-hen's opening but replace "going to moon" to "going to space" as the trigger for the Anti-Spirals to invade the Earth/Laegjurn starting the Grand Reset on the world.
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>>496371746
With Van, I think the guy is too much a trickster and comes off as a bit too much of a troublemaker. Like he always does shit to misdirect other people and send them on wild goose chases. Like he does shit that's technically not illegal, but at the same time he's not very cooperative with authority.
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>>496349743
Haha, did you know 4 means death in Japanese? You counted 2, 3, and 4!
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>>496373019
Lol
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>>496366509
That will only happen if Van's Final Episode is a DLC



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