Previous >>496372024Kai no Kiseki streams:https://www.youtube.com/@sacredshadow/streamsKai no Kiseki all connect events: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OmO7cOWO42g >Falcom Gameshttps://pastebin.com/DsiJppXk>Pastebin (aka music)https://pastebin.com/G2mswYCt>Extra Stuff (guides, downloads, undub patches)https://pastebin.com/n2G4xL5shttps://pastebin.com/n2G4xL5s>Games, mods, saves, pre-patched translationshttps://nyaa.si/user/Ganbahttps://nyaa.si/view/1749605https://nyaa.si/view/1749617>Translation patches for Hajimari, Oath in Felghana, Kuro 1 and Kuro 2https://pastebin.com/g7PfH0bLUPDATED: 28/09>Kai no Kiseki surveyhttps://www.falcom.co.jp/enquete/form.php?title=kai>Dengeki stream with TGS demo gameplay of Kai no Kiseki -Farewell O Zemuria-https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r1HkeIt0PQQ >More Prologue gameplay on Kaihttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u-HhLpAJ7YU>The Legend of Heroes: Kai no Kiseki -Farewell O Zemuria- website updatedhttps://www.falcom.co.jp/kai>The Legend of Heroes: Kai no Kiseki -Farewell O Zemuria- Trophy Listhttps://www.exophase.com/game/ying-xiong-yun-shuo-jieno-gui-ji-psn/trophies/>Kai Amazon ranking still can't beat Puyo Puyo Tetris 2>The Legend of Heroes: Kai no Kiseki -Farewell O Zemuria- Prologue gameplayhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FLhCl-Jcxbk >The Legend of Heroes: Trails in the Sky the 1st websitehttps://www.falcom.co.jp/sora/>Legend of Heroes: Trails Through Daybreak II is coming out in Early 2025https://store.nisamerica.com/products/the-legend-of-heroes-trails-through-daybreak-ii-limited-edition>Ys X: Nordics Releasing in the West on 25th Oct by NISAhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Cr5_4eGWQio
>>496408546RONNIEBROS IT CAN'T BE
Cute and Canon family.
How much more of Kuro do I have left? I just beat Fearman.
Did everyone already memoryhole maskfag nobodys?
>>496408759You have the final chapter, which is going to take a good while to complete.
>>496408759If chapter 5 then Like 12 hours because finale is horribly long
>>496408754It's nice that Falcom made sure Van has his own daughterwife so he's not left behind as a protagonist.
Na-chan and La-chan are the cutest girls in the world!
>>496408754RENE, FETCH ME THE GENESIS
breaking, lloyd bannings' uncle is in anchorville. need a pic of him pronto
>>496408821I'm waiting for Otto to get unmasked.
>>496409026
Who was the blonde maskedfag Marielle saw at like the very end of the Agnes reset sequencePunished Agnes?
>>496409404Probably Sheena
>>496409404Angieneses mom
>>496408546Hey so im replaying cold steel, why's 3 so hated here? It has amazing characters like musse and rean. Just feels kinda forced desu
>>496409404Her VA is the same as 70 year old elderly Sheena
>>496409716It becomes a little more obvious on a replay, but Cold Steel 3's incredibly formulaic and not much happens in it.
Remember when we were told that the Revolution might have dark secrets? Turns out that they're even gooderer than we thought before?
How /fg sees women.
Who will voice the Grandmaster in Kai 2?
>>496409924Everyone is good!
>>496410198I love cumdolls
>Oh, let me introduce you. This is my wife, Altina. We actually just got married, haha!
>>496408832It happened to Fie and Renne, nothing is sacred to him or Falcom.Incidentally, I ended up running into the line about Altina feeling like she was growing after the Curse was gone, it was in the fucking beach interactive questions of all places. If you say no "Rean" basically says she is fine (and prefers her as she is), I do not remember what the dialogue implied for the yes answer but the fact that something like that was just shoved there of all places is baffling.>>496409716I can only speak for myself but I absolutely hate it because it;reset relationships, is a worse rerun of Sen I but bigger and prettier, introduces a new cast of characters that basically replace the originals halfway through the arc, has a mostly shit soundtrack with all the half decent stuff in the last chapter, made mech fights drag on, has too many "lower opponents health bar to X number!" fights that just make you lose in a cutscene and it replaces Blade with something less fun, though it did grow on me eventually.Probably forgetting more, about all I can praise in Sen III is Altina and the better visuals but I am not a graphics whore so I was content with I and II.>>496410434Cumdolls are God's Gift to humanity.
>>496409924The dark secret is that it was started by time travellers... haha...
>>496410434La-chan isn't a cumdoll
>>496410434altina buttjob and cumming on her back>>496410685yes she it, quite literally
>>496410685The cumdoll photo club
>>496410198aren't you the peeping tom van?
>>496409924What if Sheena and the others were in fact demons and want the baarrier to the Beyond broken? Maybe they're some of the five.
birthday party....
>>496410973Roy you fucking nigger I need cake NOW
How can Kurt even recover from this? Why does Kiseki keep humiliating dual wielders????
>>496411136He's busy trying to save the world!
The next game is the last Calvard game, right? They're not going to make a third Kai, right?
>>496411247HE CAN WAIT ONE MORE DAY
>>496410198>falcom hasn't switched to spamming spats on every girl nowOnly Falcom can defeat the encroaching chinese threat from overseas. Someone give them more money.
>>496411330We're not getting a Kai continuation until we go through every remaster of all the current games, including a second KaiHope you're ready for another 13 years of Kiseki! Haha..
Falcom are making a duology set in the past with YKF as the main protag and it will cover the sept terrion of water and wind then we will have kai no kiseki 2 and 3 as the final games in the series. That is the plan.
>>496410521True you can't put anything past them. The only good thing in Kai is that they're making it seem she'll be the slightly taller but petite one compared to Millium, who'll be the shorter and bustier type. Them adding tits to Millium would be a shame, but as long as they don't touch Altina I can let it slide mostly.>>496410818All cute and sexo
>>496411502>Sky remake FC is the new game post resetMan, that would be insane
>>496411330kai 2 followed by hajimari 2 because they cant help themselves
>>496411438Bimbo catz....my beloved airhead. I love how stupid and dumb she is. There genuinely isnt another bimbo character in all of trails....except...maybe....no
>Kai 2>Iska 1>Iska 2>Iska 3>Arteria 1 >Arteria 2>Arteria 3These are our remaining Kiseki games.
We need a new artist already. Enami just and cutting it, and the CS artist is busy with Sky's remake
Full powered composite Rean(fused with ishmelga and the other sept in sen iv) VS the entire Ys and trails verse. Btw they all dog pile rean at once, from nameless yeagers to the demon kings of lore idc. Kamikaze attacks allowed morales off.
When do Rosalie and Gilbert get married.
I don’t care who does art as long as it’s not enami or ys x artist and it’s actually a good artist
>>496412213Still can't believe I didn't anticipate her getting groomed for Rean and the training shit. Nice ass though
>>496412213shizuna's soft fat ass
>>496412110I like the countdown art
Today, I will remind them.
>>496412405Get a better gimmick
>>496412404Me too. They should use this guy for the next arc
>>496412405what did ao-cs2 do right? aside from being released for widely available systems (PSP) or two consoles at once (Vita and PS3)
>>496412227Rean gets instantly washed by the other Sept-Terrions
>>496411736Sad times for Millium fans, they really got done dirty. First Falcom shafts her, pretends to kill her and forgets all about her just to reveal she grew tits all of a sudden. I would have been absolutely livid if I was properly into Millium, though I am already annoyed since even she was not safe despite their seeming disinterest in utilising her.
>>496412348It was an obvious set up for Rean to eventually get his Divergent Laws tachi.
>>496412564They were mostly enjoyable games. Also, one week, sales are a meme, so don't take it seriously.
>>496412659I guess. It's pretty cliche. Especially for martial artists, but whatever
>>496412686>Also, one week, sales are a memeRetard that doesn't get stats.
Daybreak sold GORILLIONS
>>496412564there's that and also the fact that ps5 did like shit in japanalso nips just like the school setting
>>496412893Throwback to last week when there was an anon trying to cope with the fact that Daybreak was an overwhelming success in the west and tried to say that Falcom's financial report was fake lmao
>>496412849>salefaggo back to /v/
>>496412564>aside from being released for widely available systems (PSP) or two consoles at once (Vita and PS3)There was nothing aside from this.
>>496412634Juiced up Valimar broke through the barrier tho. It was definitely capable of dealing with the Cube.
Almost every reason /fg/ comes up for being behind the sales is so retard I shudder to think you fags actually believe that.
>>496412634Oh yeah ok, barring the other septs then. Except kea for whatever shes worth haha. God no wonder bannings wasnt in Kai, he has 0 relevance whatsoever
>>496413083I doubt it. I think the cube needs to be attacked with a sept terrion tier power if you wanna win
What was the cube doing during CS4 normal ending?
>>496413327post-Rivalries Valimar is literally 2 Sept Terrions combined into one.
>>496413327Juiced up valimar was like multiple septs in one, well i guess just ishemelga but he was fused between fire and earth septs right?
>>496412640I guess I could almost see it coming. They've constantly had her make jokes about growing giant tits for some reason, so I guess they just finally went through with it to continue the little "complete opposite sisters" trope they've been doing. I'm worried they'll do the same shit with Altina since she's always commenting on how much she wants to grow. Falcom would truly be dead to me if they did that.
>>496413473It probably instantly activated after
>Iska arc starts>Villain instantly identified as the one white guy there
>>496413473I guess it was just chilling.>>496413581No. Resets happen regardless.
Didn't Kondo say there might be some meaning behind the prologue of CS1 and CS3 lacking certain characters? Could it have to do with the cube?
>>496413327It isn't going to come down to "hit it with a big stick". The Septerrion's question needs to be answered.
>>496413526>he was fused between fire and earth septs right?Yeah. Earth + Fire created Steel.
>>496413752Resets don't just happen regardless. They can be forced if there is a danger of breaching the outside barrier. Risette is literally from the alternative future.
>>496414217So did Gramheart trigger a reset on purpose? To try to draw it out and beat it?
>>496414356No, Hamilton did so Agnes could divert it with her Claudel forma de diva. Gramheart was trying to blow it the fuck up once and for all.
>>496414356Gramheart's goal was to destroy it and to prevent the reset sequences. Ouroboros are probably aiming for the same thing, which is why they let Gramheart cook.
Couldn't KeA have just made the cube poof away from reality back in Azure?
Any Rean vs Rean enjoyers? who would win?
>>496414639KeA couldn't even keep her cool for one conversation with her close friends and family.
>>496414639It would be another case of Earth vs Fire. It's not clear if Sept Terrions can even affect each other like this. Because if that was the case, Demiourgos would end up triggering the Cube's sequence long ago.
>>496414473So basically, Agnes bought them some time? I just don't know how they're gonna power up if they went back to Kuro 1.
So what's his power level?https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8AYttZ4BkVw&t=450s
holy fuckin SHIT!
>>496414034Wait like cold steel? KONDO YOU THOUGHT THAT FAR AHEAD? sasuga...Wait, do you guys remember reans favorite line? About fighting for tomorrow...kinda like daybreak....omg guys hes a visionary like no other.
>>496414968>>So basically, Agnes bought them some time?Agnes made it so the reset only went back to Kuro 1 instead of to 0 AD.
>>496414968Novartis and McFirebro will come in clutch together with Divine Knights and some other Avengers from different casts.
>>496415056Altina WILL make you cum. NOW.
Next arc will feature a jin woo tier overpowered edgelord as the mc or otherwise this shit is never getting finished
>>496415153fufu..
>>496415358Rean utterly humiliates this inverted penis having gook. Delete this rn bro. Also rean solos all of shounen at fully power fused with ishemelga.
>>496415192>so the reset only went back to Kuro 1And I assume that was done done so they can get their hands on something more powerful.>>496415237But the divine knights are all dead by the time Kuro 1 starts. Valimar and Ordine have the AI thing but idk if they're even considered the same tier as the originals.
>>496413534I do not understand the logic of making an "eternal" loli only to ruin her design later on.If they do commit to it for Altina, it will be baby steps I wager. Anything more than what we got in Kai at a time would draw a lot more backlash then three or four anons on 4chan.It would be nice if that complex of hers got sorted instead of losing yet another small character. If they ruin Altina too then then they will see no more money from me, though they are already getting barely any as is.Somewhat unrelated but it is weird how she was confident enough to make jokes about Rean wanting to assault her and being unable to hold back his lust for her but at the same time having no confidence in her body.>>496415256Altina WILL make me cum. Again and again but later.
>>496415560>But the divine knights are all deadNo, they're just no longer on this plane. Very different.
If this place includes all loops suddenly the amount of weapons starts to make much more sense...
>>496415153Kondo is a sneaky guy, kek
>>496411196Technically none of them pass and its a model swap
I don't want to be mean but seeing Claireschizo do a 180 turn and now starting to like Agnes gets on my nerves, specially after he called her a homewrecker.
Holding hands with Rean in front of AltinaHugging Rean in front of AltinaKissing Rean in front of Altina Fucking Rean in front of AltinaMarrying Rean in front of AltinaHaving a baby with Rean in front of AltinaMaking Rean say that I am the woman he love the most in front of Altina
I'm surprised at how loved Altina is, she's so fucking boring.
>>496415787clairefag just has a thing for self-sacrificial bitches please understand
>>496415393Hes like a grandmaster in chess. The entire world is the board. Its amazing how we are just now seeing the depth of his story telling genius. Id love to pry his skull open and see whats inside
>>496415830Almost every loli in kiseki is better than her. It's a shame that they overtook Tiofags
>>496415560Valimar, Ordine and ElPrado are definitely still there. Valimar said that because Zoa Gilstein appeared in Haji, the concept of Divine Knights was re-established in the plane of existence. Also they beat Zoa Gilstein, which had power of 7 DK = 2 Sept Terrions.
>>496415830its mainly just pedophiles
>>496415728I know I meant dead as in you couldn't get to them anymore. I guess if people are able to do godlike stuff like partial reset, then taking a trip to the Beyond doesn't seem out of the question
>>496415393Do you think they ever got Emilia out of the molten time carbonite?
>>496415967I guess I should lewdpost Tio for old time's sake>>496416014to be fair I'm also a pedo but I still don't care about Altina
>>496415393What exactly are the similarities? >>496415967For what it is worth, I will likely join the Tiofags once I finally play Crossbell, assuming I do not have to pick one that is.I liked what little I have seen of her in other stuff.
>>496415787anies is a homewrecker THO
Tiocute but not erotic enough like cumdoll
>>496416028So much shit from Beyond just ends up in Zemuria on a daily basis (Cryptids, Demons etc.). So I don't see why DK can't just return lol. Also both McBurn and Van should be capable of tearing through the barrier + there is always GM with her Divergent Laws.
>>496415830daughter's wife's are great!
>>496416185uhhh... they're both bipedalThat's a big deal still at this point
>>496415393Kondo is a genius
>>496416309Dont you find it odd how the ancient civilization that ruined itself has like no ruins. Thats probably all the beyond is, a giant ghost city or civilization
is anies above alisa and elie now in terms of relevance despite essentially having the same role and design language?
>Step aside el presidente, I need to give your daughter her birthday present!>the operation, culmination of all your efforts? not my problem
>>496412213I hate thongs, granny panties are better!!!
>>496416309>So much shit from Beyond just ends up in Zemuria on a daily basisKek yea. The Beyond probably isn't just heaven. More is going on, I bet
>>496415954There's 2 brains in there
>>496416629>Thats probably all the beyond is, a giant ghost city or civilizationnow imagine natural effects of passing time and then remember what the land surrounding phantasmagoria looked like in the 3rd
>>496416645Oh, absolutely. She basically pushes events forward when the ending sequence of Kai starts. She's even in the logo
>>496411196Reminder that Kurt has no penis
>>496416629The ancient civilization is just Zemuria before Cube's resets (aka Great Collaps).
>>496415787elaineschizo shitting on agnes for months then doing a complete 180 and loving her is better character development than either elaine or claire got
>>496415673I hope they just don't change her too much. I really love how she looks in Kai, so unless the only changes are like her getting a couple inches taller or whatever I would be ok with it. I'm just waiting for the day when Rean finally tells her she doesn't need to feel like she needs her body to majorly grow to feel more mature. Maybe we'll get something like that when we get the game that finally ties the knot with Rean's love interest, whether it's her as canon or a choice in the harem. As for the jokes, she really only makes those because she likes teasing him, which she only does because of how close she is with him. She also knows he's gonna take it as a joke if it's coming from her (at least post CS2).
There was an original "Ancient Zemurian" civilization or civilizationS, but those are now 24 million years removed from the current loop.
Consider the following: Ouroboros is only couple decades old. Why? Because previous loop was a partial reset as well and GM founded Ouroboros at the beginning point of the loop #19999.
>>496415830>>496416075Altina and Tio are so similar they're practically the same. They both have the same character arc type and personality, really the only difference is their backstory. I also love Tio so I'm not gonna argue, but it's just ironic how you could like one character and not like the other who's basically the same.
>>496417879That's exactly the point. Altina feels like a watered down Tio for me.
>>496412213Big, round butt
>>496417259Have you ever watched plunderer? It could be like that, zemuria is a paradise surrounded by desolation and death. Nukes can already do this, poison the land sea and air. Imagine what an advanced civilization could do with super science and magic
>>496417879Altina is not snarky like Tio is. Nor is she a nerd.
So we know Novartis and maybe Risette are from the previous loop, bets on anyone else from prior loops were wandering around Zemuria?
>>496416387Must be a lot of similar ruins then if that is all it takes lol>>496416645Cliff-hanger ending implies she will be more relevant but Falcom can easily fuck it up.>>496417160You get to enjoy Kai Altina for at least one more game, I doubt they will change much besides her outfit, if they even bother to do that.Rean should have already told her really. Those two have probably been together almost every day of every year since they started working together so for him to not even try to help out with that is just baffling.I would not hold my breath on him getting romantically involved with anyone.To make those kinds of jokes requires a certain level of confidence, even more so when you barely know someone, though I doubt she cared back then to be fair. Sen III onwards her continuing to do it implies she is confident in her appearance and/or confident that Rean is sexually attracted to her. Her breast envy betrays both of these and I sorely hope it is done away with but I know it is not likely.
>>496418221Are you sure you want answers to that question?
Barkhorn:born in the Solaris mountains where banditry was rampant and church faith is weak, after mastering the Kunlun style he returned to defend his hometown from a bandit invasion and awakened his Stigma, was personally recruited by the current Pope, Orestis IV.Celis:Orphan born in Zemuria's outskirts, awakened her Stigma protecting her fellow orphans from a trafficking ring but failed to save the sister who was their caretaker, her surname Ortesia actually belonged to the church sister and was taken on by Celis in her honor.Rion:ex-Erebonia nobillity, Stigma partially awakened in the form of supernatural abillities, went berserk freezing cult remnants including his cousin and was saved by Barkhorn before Rion committed suicide, disowned by his family and moved to Arteria where he met Celis.
>>496418553is this the first time we learn the popes name
>>496418221Pretty sure Nina has been confirmed to be as well
>>496418221Yun Ka-FaiHe knows too much shit
>>496418650Yep, seems to be the case.
>>496418747Yea. He somehow knows that Sept Terrion of Steel destruction has negative consequences and of the reset even existing.
>>496417879Tio is a lot more fun of a character. I think her relationship with Randy shows their differences
I'm trying to catch up with the happenings.Is the gist of it that the septerrion of time is the focal point and Kai needs a sequel to resolve it completely?
>>496418046I wouldn't say she's watered down, more like rehashed. I get why you would see it that way since I'm assuming you've seen Tio first. It's been a while since I've played Crossbell, but if iirc Tio's arc is essentially trying to regain her humanity, whereas Altina is pretty much trying to become more human in the first place. Obviously not justification on why you think she's watered down Tio, but you know how creatively bankrupt Kondom is.>>496418151Altina is definitely snarky. Maybe not to the level of Tio or Fie, but she definitely has her moments. She is also a bit of a nerd for pancakes, but tbf one of the big points for her in CS3 was for her to try and find more interests anyway, so she's not at Tio's Mishy obsession levels for anything yet.
Why is everyone <C>?
>>496408851worst final chapter in any kiseki, I dont even think thats an exaggeration. The amount of trash mobs they want you to fight around edith is absurd
>>496419456fufu... that's <CC> for you
>>496419246Yea. The Sept Terrion of Time is still a huge problem they need to deal with, so Agnes does a partial reset to a now unknown point before Kai. If she didn't do that, the Sept Terrion of Time would have reset everything back to Year 0 again.
>>496419490Worst of the ones I have played so far at least, I had only considered skipping fights in FC but that was on me for backtracking. Kuro I got tired of before I even hit the tower and when I was in I just wanted it to be done.
I laughed at altina x rean fags but when you think about it shes the ONLY choice for his canon love interest. Fuuuuck it should have be fie or musse my glorious queen. Im gonna go replay 4 and cry my heart out, bye.
>>496418523Her and Niall was mentioned to be looking into the space stuff after all
>>496419246sept terrion of time is responsible for the barrier around zemuria and is resetting time every time humanity gets too advanced and the true goal of project startaker was to destroy itit was too powerful and killed the mech pilot sent to destroy it and initiated a timeline reset however agnes sacrificed herself and used the genesis to hijack it and reset it only partially instead of 1200 years (its theorized back to kuro 1) but some people will keep their memorieskai 2 presumably will be about using the knowledge to gather allies and make an all out assault on it and destroy it for good
>>496418221>filenamekekneed a drawfag to make it happen
Why can't they just leave Cube-san in peace?
>>496420263people dont want to live without iphones
>>496416540If Kevin recovered Excalibur ruins ten years ago from that exact spot, then how many times has this exact set of events reoccurred? Or am I misunderstanding the time loop?
>>496419953thats pretty neatsending the timeline back to kuro 1 sounds utterly chaotic though
What was he thinking during his final moments?
>>496418452I think Rean has told her, but it was just as a passing comment or just in a way where it's quick consolation. I want him to tell her in a real heartfelt way when it's them having an intimate moment together or something, almost like a final bond type of conversation. >Sen III onwards her continuing to do it implies she is confident in her appearance and/or confident that Rean is sexually attracted to herI wouldn't say she's doing it for that mostly. She most likely is confident in her appearance, but only as being seen as cute and dainty, which I think kind of plays into why she's always insecure about her breast size. She most definitely wants to attract Rean, but my guess is she feels the only way to do that is to have bigger proportions, since that is her idea of being more mature. The teasing could be seen as a way to probe what type Rean is into, but as of now I'm still mostly convinced it's just her way of teasing him.
>>496420868>lost his wife>lost his daughter>will have memories of it due to the power of being a major characterhis suffering isnt over yet
So whats with the Nina side episode? She's from the Beyond?
>>496420985How big will his (and Ban-san's) melty be?
New Mishy kinography
>>496421649how many movies are therekuro 2 already had less than 1
>>496419004True, I think Tio is shown to be a little more lively than Altina. The only one that's similar to Randy that she's associated to is Ash, but he doesn't really talk to Altina much in the first place, so she doesn't have many chances to show off a similar dynamic to Tio and Randy. >>496419729You have seen the truth to one of Zemuria's mysteries. Congrats anon.
>>496420954Kiseki needs more intimacy between the characters so I would welcome this before the final bonding event, gives us some time to appreciate it in the game too rather than having the game end in a couple of hours.That makes sense, very flawed logic on her end though if that is the case, it is a shame this is not a series that has meaningful choices and player driven interactions because I would have put such insecurities to rest years ago were I able. That goes for more than just Altina too.Honestly had she been created by better writers I would say your guess at probing is probably on the money, with Falcom though I dare say we have put more thought into why she makes those jokes than they ever did.
>>496422298Honestly we need rixia and Grimcatz costumes for every girl...
>>496418553>>496418650Rion is secretly a Schlieden
>>496421881>gives us some time to appreciate it in the game tooYeah I think it would be a great way for them to solidify their relationship as irreplaceable friends and partners, rather than just someone else who's close to Rean. Him telling her that she's fine the way she is would be a great way for him to show just how much she means to him currently.>That makes sense, very flawed logic on her end thoughIt makes sense she feels that way imo. She's young and wants to grab Rean's attention romantically, so it makes sense she would think things like bigger breasts = more attractive, especially when she already wants to be seen as more mature.>we have put more thought into why she makes those jokes than they ever didKek true. Falcom cares so little about the writing now it's sad. I feel like Altina is enough of a favorite though to where they might put a little more care, but Falcom has lost so much faith recently that we just expect the worst now from them.
>>496422298imagine her pooping mid-battle
>>496423965lmao wtf
https://strawpoll.com/NPgxe0w2QZ2
>>496415393This is a plot hole no matter how much I try to think about it
falcom le bad
>>496423965Bro...
>>496415393The jp text just said 'statue' and it was indeed a statue. And to think I was mocked for pointing out this mistranslation years ago.
>>496422298That's her entire ass. Her ENTIRE ass.
>>496420759Yea I don't know how they can deal with the cube if they do that
>>496415393Is Emilia in that thing?
>next Kiseki game is a full SRW-like game with everyone having mechs
>>496424968Van isn't gonna throw his diabolic core away in the next reset most likely, so I assume demon lords and mcburn might play a huge role, since we still know nothing about them.
>>496425237Sounds fun desu
>>496424251Of course it isIf they found this shit 10'years ago how it still thereOrIf they traveled to the past how Swin, Nadia and Lapis talked with Agnes
>>496423965Would
>>496425339Demon lords are also pretty strong too, so they yea it will probably come in handy just in case they need even more fire power
>>496425237Gotchu famiglia
>>496425454It's Hermes from the past loop
>>496425339Oi oi, VAN WHITE HAIRED DEMON HYYPPER MODE? Mcburn gonna teach him how to be a demon, its gonna be kino guys trust.
Why have falcom fans cultivatedelitist takes to music?
>>496423739It would be nice to get moments like that in the main story, instead of mostly in bonding events, especially if the games are going to throw loads of side quests at us, I would gladly take developing relationships over more 4spgs.Ironically that mindset will only ensure she remains immature but it could lead to a solid scene with the two even without romance or hints at it.I reckon Altina's popularity only ensures her presence in future titles, not any increase in effort spared for her by Falcom, unfortunately. Falcom seem quite content to rely on mystery baiting and poorly done tired tropes and I do not see that changing any time soon, though admittedly I have not seen most of her Kai scenes. >>496425237Awakening and Transcend Beat time?
>>496425998It's just a handful of discord schizos. They're pretty easy to ignore and are incredibly easy to bait if you're into that
They are gonna stack so many powers just to beat the time sept
>>496425765Vagrants-zion described as someone who's destined to devour the world, so yeah. Also demon lords only appeared after the previous reset originally there were only 72 devils, but 5 demon lords who ruled over other devils were added. My guess they were sent from the beyond to destroy time sept-terrion and merge Zemuria with the beyond.
>>496426542>they were sent from the beyondThey Beyond needs to fix it's plumbing already lol. So much stuff leaks.
>>496426542>5 demon lords who ruled over other devils were added.So are there four other dudes like Van running around?
Campanella state that this time reset is actually the third act of their masterplan it seems, whatever that means.
>>496415393>>496416540>>496424251>>496425454>>496425910Help me fg/ I don't understand this plotIf Hermes died to not-Ishmelga why she is there in the past (before Sky)?How and why she was teleported to the past? If Kevin and co were teleported together how they talked with Agnes in magic Skype? And how Kevin was seeing the robot already worn out over time if they teleported together?Or just Excalibur was teleported? But if yes then why it still there (out of nowhere)Or just Kevin saw the robot with Nina's eye? But the other characters didn't see it eitherBut still this doesn't make sense because it would create a paradox and the future would have to change. Or is it like Isola and Emma where the past and future exist at the same time and therefore it is possible for that to happen?WTF is this writing????
So what the final boss of kai 2 will be Van vs a cube?
>>496426810According to Bergard yes, there are 5 demon lords and church knows about the resets. Some stil think that Emilia could be another demon lord vessel like Van, because of her red strings of hair.
>>496419456Fufu... just wait until there's a character with first middle and last name of <C>
>>496422298I love her butt
>>496427052Some Falcom employee looked for some loose line in Sky's script and tried to create a plot twist that the object was always there but it really doesn't make any sense
>>496427092>Rean, Emilia etc go into space>they carry the spriggans>they get the Spriggans inside the cube>Emilia & co turn back to fight the evil mech>meanwhile Spriggans face whatever is inside the cubeMaybe that's how it'll go.
>>496416646Van is literally me
>>496427052>How and why she was teleported to the past?I think this might have been a form of punishment
>>496427092Hard to tell, but the implications are there. It would be kino if Rean is piloting the mecha to clear the way for Van while Kevin fights off devils that were awakened, so it'll probably be a joint effort.
Is van not going to really care about kincaid being THE RAT and just shoot some hoops with him at the basketball court
>>496427052/fg/ is so smart
>>496427052Kevin was not teleported to the past. How the robot statue appeared there if it had already been excavated in the past I do not know.
>>496427609He'll probably be pissed at him, but ultimately understand that he didn't really do nothing wrong and it was Agnes' choice
>>496427092>>496427380Everyone into different robots, fighting in space, fighting ayy lmaos. Literally Xenosagahttps://youtu.be/TJLoWY0LTdg?t=62
>>496427802I bet nothing will come out of it anyway. he could have nuked half of calvard and Falcom would still make a scene where the cast tells him they need him and forgive him for everything
>>496427052>>496427691>Nina's eyeHamilton and the Picnic Squad also saw the mecha, didn't they?
>>496427802I don't get why people think he's the main villain
you mean to tell me that if Lloyd listened to the advice of the paradox demon swordsman pilot from the future, we could have avoided Kai 2?
Is there any porn of emilia yet
>>496427810>EveryoneI don't think everyone will get one. They will probably have them split into groups. Maybe one gropu fights the new baddie mech and the others go into the cube or fight some demons>>496428124Maybe? I think all it would have done is give everyone a bit more time.
>>496425237>>496425843How did /m/ win this hard? Even when they lost Emilia, they got Turn-Aishmelga
>>496428124>People blaming Lloyd when there's at least 10 characters that can see the future and did nothing to help because we need ~le reset for some stupid reasonThe average IQ of trails fans is less than the number of games in the series
>>496428306Falcum just loves mecha I guess lol
>>496428359But...but... Jobbings...cement...haha...rufus....gouranbangingrixia...helpmefg
>>496428306Kondom is a huge /m/fag. Why the fuck would he recycle muh masks so much
The name 'Emilia' somehow feels mismatched to her.
What's Novartis backstory?
>>496426157>It would be nice to get moments like that in the main storyFor sure. Falcom kinda dug themselves in a hole by having so many returning characters with different storylines going on that they kind of lost track of them all, and the only way they know how to handle it is typical route stuff. While I'm not really against routes per say, the way they've executed it recently is just so poorly done combined with their need to sequelbait. I don't want to say they're lazy, but it's obvious they're prioritizing other requirements than making a good game. It sucks too, cause they definitely can develop their relationship more in the main story, but they've just become so preoccupied with padding out everything that they just keep pushing things to the next game.>Ironically that mindset will only ensure she remains immatureIf Falcom is competent enough, I'm hoping that's actually why she thinks that way for what you said, it leads to a intimate and heartfelt scene between the two. I would think she's already over trying to become more humanized, so I think her current insecurities would be a good next step to develop her overall character and relationship with Rean. >I reckon Altina's popularity only ensures her presence in future titlesUnfortunately, as much as I'm coping, this is the most likely case. She's easy to slot in due to Rean and how close she is to him, but her popularity is the biggest factor for appearing. I doubt she would be in Kai if she wasn't, just look at what happened to Ries. The only good thing about her appearing more is that Falcom will be forced to actually put a smidge of effort to her justify her appearance and her involvement in the story, so we'll at least get crumbs of her development character wise and her relationship with Rean and others, as well as cute scenes of them together. I agree that their reliance on overly used tropes is getting tiring, almost retardedly so.
See Hermes in Kuro 1/2Ohh she is greatHermes in KaiOhh she is another generic falcom waifuStill more relevant to the other girls at leastAnd at least you guys are talking about her and not the Altina with toothpast hair
Why are Altinafags always the ones talking about lack of creativity kek
>>496428958she's a gigastacy
>>496428958hermes sucked ass in kuro 1 and 2 she was just a generic mystery box character
Someone said a thread or two ago that in her connect event with Van, it's kinda implied she's only doing this now because she's nervous about going into space.
>>496428884he's epstein's only disciple from the previous loop
>>496429234Better than the shit generic character that she is in Kai
When is the next Kiseki/Falcom poll?
>>496429676any clip of that scene?
>>496429919They posted a Kai survey today and it asks for your favorite character
>>496428958Your brain damaged if you think that Hermes from kuro 1/2 was more interesting than in kai. Also you should watch her connect event and the reason why she acts more flirtatious and easygoing compared to kuro.
>>496429773HereI fixed for you>>496429676In the end Risette is not that special after all. She is from another loop WOW but Novartis also is LAME
are we expecting any new info from the strem shortly
>>496429919It's in the OP, it's mostly a survey about the games and what did you like about Kai, but you can also vote for your favorite character at the end of survey.
>>496430125Isn't that a lottery?
>>496430308oh. okay thanks.
I just remembered Ries was around in Azure for the most of the game, in the church.I thought it was funny how I had completely forgot about her in that game
>>496430217>sem titulo Lmao, every fucking time
>>496430089https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AsEIOA6h_jQ&t=1450s
>>496430161Yes I think. She was a normal woman in Kuro 1/2 with a helmet. I really hate characters with that unrealistic generic girl behavior because Falcom doesn't have the ability to write normal characters without resorting to some waifu trope
>>496430507Man, what is GM up to. Him wanting to help means he might have had a solution or thought he did
>gets scared/nervous>total personality changeHmm
>>496430507>Novartis is actually a nice guyBiggest twist of the game.
there'll be an event stream in half an hour with real life Van and Quatre if someone's interestedhttps://www.youtube.com/live/v8x2LqMZ5YA?si=yskwha4bDxxvWWI4
>>496424543Looks like you are correct. XSNEED fucked up the translation for this one.
>>496430869doubt it'll have anything interestingwhen does kondo generally give his post-release interviews?
>>496430308It doesn't work for me.
>>496430654As always, she has her keikaku. Novartis remembered who he was and he frantically pleaded that he help Roy, but that would be going against whatever hairbrained plot she has
>>496430942>when does kondo generally give his post-release interviews?he had art book interview for Kuro 1/2, but Kai doesn't have an art book..
Why is Van such a smellfag? Whenever something happens he always goes "this stinks" or "I smell something dangerous"
>>496429773>>496430217Here... I liked the game more than you except for the trash ending with a lot of plot holes and shounen bullshit to sell the sequel while the reset plot sucks a lot and will destroy the worldbuilding
>>496431108The nose knows
>>496430507I don't remember this scene in chinaman stream
>>496431108its a common private detective trope
>>496431058The artbooks usually don't get posted until November or December and then they come out a few months after that
>>496431108probably related to his demonic powers idkit's basically the same shit like with unclouded eye, but to a lesser extent
>>496431184it's locked behind the end of grim garten
>>496431058The art books don't come out until months later.
>>496431283what other important grim garten scenes are there?
>>496426542>Also demon lords only appeared after the previous reset originally there were only 72 devilsNot entirely accurate. The 5 Demon Lords appeared after the Great Reset, but there's nothing to indicate they are a unique part of the 19999th reset. They've probably been there for all of them.
why did falcom stop making key visuals for kiseki after kuro 1
>>496427052>If Hermes died to not-Ishmelga why she is there in the past (before Sky)?That Excalibur is an Excalibur from a previous time loop, not from this one.
>>496431282it's just a detective trope.
>>496429773/m/ won.the RAT won.Anies lost.I kneeled to all of the above.
>>496431930Anies won tho.
>>496431751This is a worse plot hole than the original because isn't the previous loop the Risette one? Also why it's still there in 1209 in front of Kevin?
>>496431563the GM scene right after the novartis one, everything about Ulrica in the game pretty much,some simeon stuff, some mare scenes and memory backstory stuff for various characters
>>496408546
>>496431987proofs?
Ouroboros better give me more Ulrica fanservice in the next game.
Kai no Kiseki SUCKwhy do people still support this crap?Falcom needs to end Kiseki and make some GOOD game again
Kai was so good
>>496432029>only goes against Gramheart for Anies>runs after her screaming her name at the end
I have the feeling that whatever the Grandmaster is planning is stupid. Just a hunch.
>>496432156any self respecting bossu would do the same
>>496432183Considering all the build up I can't imagine it'll pay off.
『クロ1』と『クロ2』には、モンスターを倒すことや3D人形が戦うこと以上に、作品に何らかの意味を与える象徴的なテーマがまだいくつかある。Kai goes against the entire message of the series and proves that humanity cannot do anything without relying on deus ex machinas.
doomtards spam this same "this is the game that ruined the series" shit every time a game comes out lmao
>>496432309Ops...Kuro 1 and Kuro 2 still have some iconic themes that give them some meaning beyond defeating monsters and fighting 3D dolls.
>>496431019I think Novartis wanted to help out Roy just to give Hamilton the middle finger. He does have an intense hate boner to the Three Disciples after all because he was the only one who should be Epstein's Disciple.
>>496431998post the GM scene
>>496432229If anything he should be pissed at Anies, not Gramheart, since he had no say in what she was doing. But Van just seethes at him and wants a birthday while he's busy dealing with the cube lmao
Sky FC: this is the game that ruined the seriesSky Third: this is the game that ruined the seriesZero: this is the game that ruined the seriesAo: this is the game that ruined the seriesCS1: this is the game that ruined the seriesCS2: this is the game that ruined the seriesCS3: this is the game that ruined the seriesCS4: this is the game that ruined the seriesCS5: this is the game that ruined the seriesKuro: this is the game that ruined the seriesKuro 2: this is the game that ruined the seriesKai: this is the game that ruined the seriesKai 2: this is the game that ruined the seriessimple as
>>496432394Some of the Cold Steel remains as a stain to the franchise as a whole. It's just amazing, Falcom can still make something worse each time.
>>496432394YesKai ruined the already ruined kiseki by kuro 2People praised Kuro 1 at least>>496432537Wrong. Don't try to pretend that every game is bad to justify the duo trash: Kuro 2 and Kai
Time travel sucks like assKuro and KAI really killed these whole seriesSora was good, becoming a bracer and exploring the worldZero and Ao had great cast and story too, very memorable.Sen was so-so okay with the school romance simulator and turn based battle system, also it completed the story of returning characters.After SEN IV all games SUCK
>>496432649I didn't say every game was bad bro, please check the post again thx
Ao was the game that ruined. If /fg/ existed at the time it was released in japan this would be a common opinion.
reanfags getting uppity because they only got like 15% of the game as rean not 50% as they were hoping.
/fg/ is basically the same as cod players. They play every game, shit on it, call the newest the worst in the series then say the old one was actually not that bad. Every. single. Time.
>>496432534Honestly, I saw the scene and to me, he made that shit up as an excuse for himself. The other characters wanted answers.
>>496432712You used the same sentence to describe Kuro 2/Kai and the good onesThis is a Sacrilege
>>496432509https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZQcgCBXplmQ
THE STRONGEST
>>496432649Kuro 2 was great. Kai was great. Kiseki is great
>>496432537It doesn't matter how ruined and used up she is. Whether it's Kiseki or Renne, they are still beautiful to me.
>>496432537Nope. It should be>It cant be worse thant this>Its actually worse>well this time the next can improve>and just got worseand repeat this cycle.
Time travel is OVERUSED and SHITKuro and KAI really killed these whole seriesSora was good, becoming a bracer and exploring the worldZero and Ao had great cast and story too, very memorable.Sen was so-so okay with the school romance simulator and turn based battle system, also it completed the story of returning characters.After SEN IV all games are SHIT
>>496432762>they only got like 15%Good. All he had was set up shit and wanting to see if Calvard would be a danger to Erebonia. Van's route is a slog because of all the padding and Kevin's route has the picnic fags.The only issue is people didn't think we'd get CS3 2.0
>>496432884Fuck youAlways youAt least he's honest and always posts a picture of the picnic squad aka the worst cast to remind us of his shit taste
>>496428923Nice as it is to see familiar faces I care about, at least in Kai, it is not doing them any favours. They cannot focus on the returning characters and their mere presence takes away from the new cast unless the returning guys do absolutely nothing.They really should just focus on one set at a time, they are clearly unable to handle all these characters here at once in a proper fashion. No point having them there just for the scenes where everyone has to say a line that ends with a group shout.I would not say routes are inherently bad myself but Falcom are not really utilising their strengths well and over-reliance on anything is never going to work out well, especially baiting interest in sequels, eventually even the eternally curious will just give up on them.Would be nice to see for multiple reasons, character development, more Altina screen time and proof that Falcom can still put out something half decent, though I am half expecting them to just redo her becoming more human and do it worse than what we already got but it does seem unlikely.Kevin and Ries really were robbed, it is incomprehensible that they let popularity trump logic when it comes to the scenarios.To be honest I only see them doing the cute scenes, they can very easily coast off of that for multiple games, especially if Altina is not going to be a main character anymore.I would watch the garden stuff for Kai but I will just go through the garden myself once a fan translation and link for the game are out.
>>496432984It was pretty obvious but as usual /fg/ doesn't read between the lines of what Kondo says and just unconditionally believe him and then inventa game in their head that Falcom would never realistically make and then get disappointed that it didn't happen.
>*knows about the existence of sept-terrion of time and that it has to be dealt with eventually*>still continues playing the series>aieeeeee how could this happen to me
Its get worse by the SCOPE of the things that keep escalating. We start by a simple magic artifact that does a thing and a secret society to everyone being part of a secret organization, multiple characters going ufufu and magical space robots with time loops/dimensional travels, portal, multiverse of madness.
>>496433153aieeeeee how could this happen to me
>>496433000The best and most loved cast!
>>496432801It feels really forced, even if he was lying to himself
>>496433153For real. Wtf did people think the sept-terrion of time arc would be about?
>>496433153They could be more creative and explore other concepts of time such as the concept of end and death (as in the Septerrion card) instead of something generic like time loop and time travel.
Nadia will be a street whore after swin leaves her for someone actually worth a damn
>>496433153kek
Ban-sanhttps://www.youtube.com/live/v8x2LqMZ5YA?si=-7pONLYDpHe2hHKe
>>496433283Forced but kinda like simply copied from other shonens when some of the most hard-boiled looking character say some dumbass shit as an excuse to help the protag and fight big bad.
>>496433198Yea, how are the Sept Terrions of Wind & Water going to top this when the Sept Terrion of Time causes mankind to reset like this
>>496433552people said the same about sept-terrion of zero
>>496433418youu mogged them kekanon thinks time only involves time travel Persona 3 is here to prove that you can create memorable stories using time as a concept
>>496433475Sasuga ha Ban-san desu ne.
>>496433418>They could be more creative and explore other concepts of time such as the concept of end and death (as in the Septerrion card)Maybe those things were why the septerrion was created or why it does what it does...
damn only 3 days after release and we're already having 24/7 melties over it
>>496433673Septerrion of Zero already did the time travel stuffWater will be used against the Beyond and Wind will break the 4th wall (remember Campanella in Sky 3rd)
>>496433453Nope, super cute, super canon in very timeline
>>496433673Sept Terrion of Steel didn't top Zero. Steel is just a spooky mech and Zero kinda has time shit included
>>496433878Was it time travel? Seems like saw a previous loop and just sent information back in time to prevent Lloyd from jobbing.
>>496433418Septerrion of Space is not exactly about Space so I kinda agree
>Steel is just a spooky mech>forgets about The CurseHaha...
hmmm I kinda get the main idea of pretty much everything when looking at the timeline like this.Great Collapse fucked up the entire world, excluding Zemuria which barely survived. They just know that the next Great Collapse will destroy Zemuria, so Aidios made it so that the continent reset forever. And Aidios loyal friends, the Church, is are tasked to make sure Zemuria is free from "Outside" interference, that's why they're hunting for artifacts and heretics that seek power from the Outside/Demons. Artifacts are probably remains not only from the Ancient Civ. but also from the previous loop (the reset is never perfect). In the current loop, Hamilton found Excalibur's stone statue in Creil, after all.In contrast, Grandmaster is pro-freedom. This is just my wild assumption, but I think she wants humanity to eventually crush the cage and overcome the Great Collapse that's why she's been collecting taboo stuff for her own gain. She's basically playing a Roguelite game this entire time.The Church/Aidios impose restrictions on humanity so they don't reach the limit, but Ouroboros and eventually our heroes too, will fight to overcome that limit. It's kinda similar to Gurren Lagann with the Spiral Race and Anti-Spiral thing. I think this would be a great finale for the franchise as a whole. What do you think?
>>496433878>remember Campanella in Sky 3rdwhich wasn't 4th wall breaking but...fuck this im done explaining this shit to retards every fucking time, go search the archive or thinkgood luck
>/fg/ had 20 years to realize the septerrion of time fucked with time>couldn't do itmaybe in the next timeline we'll be able to think
>>496432953>>496433418>time travel>overused/genericClearly neither of you have seen a good time travel story before because they have some of the most engaging storylines out there.
The time reset goes 1200 years in the past right? that's what I understood. Many things could change but seems preventive due to whatever happened 1200 before with the older civilization annihilation
>>496434084making people do dumb shit isn't as busted as what Zero could do.
>>496434084Steel is basedFire = SoulsEarth = Body Both together = reincarnation and other things
You all should have seen this coming because the japanese fucking love time loop shit.
You don't see how this game suck?It only copy paste from popular anime and manga series, it is pathetic
>>496434202Are you really comparing Steins Gate with that trash that was Kai? Seriously? Steins Gate is kino but it's over 10 years old and back then time travel was less saturated.
Get in https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v8x2LqMZ5YA
Name a original piece of media, /fg/.
I think it really just depends on where the reset starts now that it's not a hard reset.
>>496434504advertising?
>>496434531Kiseki
>>496434553was it rape
>>496434202That's because Falcom games are no comparison to S;G writing wise.
>>496434531Never existed
>Play anime video game series>Get angry it has anime shit in it
>>496434398and that's a good thing
>>496434545Agnes never being born seems to be the thing. Another thing I noticed is orbal phones disappearing first.
>>496434553
>>496434202This shit isn't good either.
>>496434701Bad executed anime shit
>>496434701Better copy Jojo Stone Ocean universe reset and next games will have kiseki characters in wild west.
>>496434735>orbal phones disappearingIt looks like we're getting a tech downgrade as well. How the hell are they meant to fight the cube with less tech to use
>>496434202why does the fag in a dress have tits
>>496434531Rance
>>496434504so are they mostly talking about their characters?
>>496432183She's a girl in Trails. of course she's retarded.
>>496434701How was I supposed to know? There was nothing I could do
>>496434202Imagine if these games had story writing as good as in s;g.
>>496434870The tech downgrade seems necessary to give humanity more time because it's precisely the tech advancing so much that start the reset. That and the other septerrions awaken seems to accelerate the process.
did they spoil the ending with merch
>>496434735>orbments deleted>have to rely on pure skill and power to defeat the sept-terrion of timeHaha...
If trails good why pic related?
>>496435047Haha...
>>496434627yeah S;G is garbage
>>496435015>other septerrions awaken seems to accelerate the process.what do you mean>>496435047wow lol
>>496434870Emmabros... Is it our chance?
Why do you care about sales? Are you a Falcom shareholder or something?
Kuro 2 shouldn' have been madeKai should've been Kuro 2Kuro no KisekiKurono Kiseki Chrono Kiseki
>>496435297I am, haha...
>>496434202Anon, that novel whole purpose is the time travel. Its not the same to introduce it halfway in another series lore that has a whole of different themes already.
>>496435294She's in the polls too so....maybe
>>496435105NA & EU has picked up the torch>>496435049Can’t believe that was 4 years ago
>>496435198I'm going to need you to take those words back if you think any of the story from the last 5 games has been good.
>>496435049What a fall from grace...
>>496435047They did that twice.
Kiseki is a esoteric masterpiece.
>>496435105>flatlined with kuro
What do you like about Kuro series?- gameplay suck, any YS game is better- world exploration is about zero, you travel with car by cutscenes... it's a joke- characters are not really that good- graphics are outdated tooso WHAT do people like on this?
>>496435241I think by minute 13 this guy explains the possibility of time reset increased with the events in previous games that involved a Septerrion.https://youtu.be/8MIVFPz-dkM?t=791
>>496435294World = Kai''Kai needs you and your power''Emmabros... let's dream
>>496435637story and world building
>>496433109>Nice as it is to see familiar faces I care about, at least in Kai, it is not doing them any favoursDefinitely. Too many hands in the kitchen as they say. It's a shame that they've been terrible so far at managing a large cast, cause to be honest the only thing left keeping me attached to the series is the characters (specifically Altina and Rean and their relationship). I wasn't even all that interested in the Kuro games until Altina was announced for Kai. It sucks cause it is cool to see them all together, but they're just so bad at it that it feels pointless. They really are at the point now where they need to reduce the cast to the main crew and regroup to get things back in order, but doing that means no Altina appearance with Rean. I only hope they improve to the point where they can manage a large cast size, cause if not they'll just have to make another Rean game again.>I am half expecting them to just redo her becoming more human and do it worseWith Falcom's ability to recycle, it wouldn't surprise me. Though to be honest rehashed Altina content is better than none I guess, as long as they don't actively make her worst in the process.>I only see them doing the cute scenes, they can very easily coast off of that for multiple gamesTrue, the cute Altina scenes really makes it for me. I would never mind seeing more of them. >I would watch the garden stuff for Kai but I will just go through the garden myself once a fan translation and link for the game are outThat's what I'm planning as well. I'm probably just gonna pirate the CLE version and fan patch it and then play the NISA fanfic when it releases, mainly because I really like Altina's english VA. It's tough for me to pick which between the JP or EN one.
>>496435637Kuro, and Kiseki in general, has the best characters
>>496435637Because girls are still SEXO
>>496435753In Kuro? Honestly?... it's about the worst one
>>496435047>nobody even noticedsubtly kino unlike the rufus unmask incident
>>496435753>world building>kurochose one
>>496435847the best one by far
>>496435643This sounds like everything goes to shit if the sept terrion of steel is gone
>>496435047>>496435563KONDOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
>>496435719To be optimistic with you, Emma is one of the most popular non-loli female characters in the series. But this type of character is the one that Falcom seems to care about the least.
>>496435105Scores:>FC: 32/40>SC: 28/40>3rd: 30/40>Zero: 31/40>Azure: 32/40>CS1: 34/40>CS2: 31/40>CS3: 33/40>CS4: 33/40>Reverie: 33/40>Kuro: 34/40>Kuro 2: 33/40>Kai: 32/40>Ys I: 30/40>Ys II: 27/40>Ys III: 19/40>Ys IV: 25/40>Ys V: 26/40>Ys VI: 24/40>Ys VII: 32/40>Ys VIII: 34/40>Ys IX: 35/40>Ys X: 34/40>Ys vs. Sora no Kiseki: Alternative Saga 27/40
What role did Rune play in the previous loop? I'm sure he retained his memories somehow cuz he knew too much.
>>496435637Sunk cost fallacy to see the story end
Guys...what....what if they instead of depending on Orbal stuff just rely on in electronic devices.
>>496436371Solid proof that Aprilis is best Ys girl.
>>496436543nah, kiseki is actually great
>>496436371>Ys IX: 35/40''best game''this is not even top 1000 in the famitsu score lol
>>496436612Pre orbal shit is never coming back haha
>>496432537SCbros just keep on winning, haha...
>>496432875fucking spook
Do we have nips reviews yet? I only saw a few ones just praising Rean, discarding everything else. Kinda shameless.
>>496420985He's going to be an alcoholic next game isn't he?
I hope the time reset delete Shards foreverThe biggest crap they invented in this series
>>496436371Is that OG Ys 3, Ys 4, & Ys 5?
>>496434202>Posts another retarded time loop storySteins;Gate is only good if you're a thirteen year old with no standards.
Martial art fags might shine in the next game
>>496435637>gameplay suck, any YS game is betteryou aren't supposed to just play in action mode retard>world exploration is about zero, you travel with car by cutscenes... it's a jokekinda agree, but travelling through empty forests with nothing in them but mobs isn't really appealing either>- characters are not really that goodbest cast since Crossbell>- graphics are outdated toocompared to what they had they improved a lot, expecting AAA level graphics from falcom is beyond retardedAlso what the fuck is Kuro series? It's an arc and part of the kiseki series as a whole and should be viewed as such.
>next timeline will have Rocksmith as president>time reset is finally stoppedImagine
One day you guys will realize that Kiseki is just Fairy Tail with a lot of padding. Every implied dark content in trails also happened in fairy tail
>>496435760I get that, Kuro's cast did not stick the landing with me, I am only really somewhat interested in Van and Aaron. I was really expecting to like Feri and then she basically did not exist. Only heard bad things about Kuro 2 as well, though that just makes me more curious.With Kai I was looking forward to Fie, Altina, Kevin and Van but I did not really get much out of any of them. Still miss Kevin's original voice.For me, redoing a character arc is always going to make them worse, solely because of the stagnation. At that point all I can do is move on, no point going though the exact same story, with the same lessons and the same conclusion with a character that already went through them. In my experience the rehashing is always worse too. I would rather Altina "die" as she is then be go though such an assassination.Cute stuff is nice but I would like more, though I suppose this is the wrong series for that.I will probably pirate both since all the modders will probably switch to the NISA version when it comes out. I run the original language unless I am curious about another so I will not be switching to En once I get the NISA one.
>>496437295rean when someone besides crow touches him
do we have a full list of people we think will remember stuff yet
>>496437295AGHHHHHH WOMAN IS TOUCHING ME!!!
>>496436371>Ys IX: 35/40how the fuck this pyosg got the highest score wtf LOL
>>496436371>>FC: 32/40>>SC: 28/40
>>496437396>Yun Ka Fai>Church niggas>Yume>Rean>Van>Crow>Van>KevinWho else?
>>496436371How is SC that low?
in Kai 2, we will have>Van becoming like McBurn and save Agnes in another dimension>Rean manifesting Septerrion of Steel to destroy Septerrion of Time in a space mecha battle
>>496438014its when famitsu had standards
>>496438040>manifestingYou mean going into the beyond to get the dk's back.
>>496438014The people who reviewed it never played FC. They were confused the whole game and were mad because there was no way of knowing that Second Chapter had a First Chapter
Kiseki is a simple adventure series about people and society and friendship and shit, not a nerdy philosophical reflection on abstract elemental forces. The septerrions are a radical source of conflict that are only so because humans demanded they be so with their actions and desires. Ishmelga is in everyone, red gnosis maxxing doesn't turn people into a discount demon lord, its human desires no longer being checked by human physical or mental limits. Aureole Unlimited Free Shit Machine meets restless insatiable humanity. Goodbye, Atlantis, you were not ready.
>>496438161>to get the dk's back.what's that?
>>496438181journos have always been room temperature IQ huh?
>>496438407divine knights/zoa gilstein
Kiki Kanrii!!
This minigame is very cute. I hope they expand on this with a short or manga
Agnes became the Seventh Anguis in Kai.
>>496438792sovl....
>>496438794so GM will bring Agnes back for the next loop?
>Agnes>Anieswhat is her name
the real question is how did Epstein know so much?
>>496438792Altina...
>>496439083アニエス
>>496439083ANUS because she's SHIT
Sex with Lucrezia
>>496439083ANIESU sometimes
>>496439507I like her dialect and she looks nice when she takes that hat off, so yes. Sex with Lucrezia.
>>496439507We know Ellroy
Rufus is just going to let Lapis fuck him when she eventually gets an adult doll body, right?
>>496439694Is Falcom waiting for all the lolis to turn 18 or something kek
>>496439694>adult doll bodyI don't think Rufus is into that
>McBurn wank>"He's just like you, Van"McVan in Kai 2 hype!!!
>>496439825They're similar, but Van and McBurn have different circumstances. Van was born with the diabolic core while McBurn is a fusion of a human and the demon overlord from the beyond and I'm 99% sure that human was Epstein.
>>496436371skyboomers proven shit
>>496439694This Altera chick is really making me want to watch the garden stuff now instead of waiting.
Yeah I think I have the entire anguis lineup.
>>496437381I'm currently playing through Kuro 1 right now and overall they don't seem that bad. Van and Aaron are sorta cool, Agnes is pretty cute and is a better main heroine than Elie and Alisa by a mile I think. Feri is cute too, but she's really only there to say funny militaristic things in ordinary situations, or ask a naive question to adult stuff. I haven't unlocked anyone else past that, but Risette looks pretty cool at least and is the only one left I'm looking forward to seeing. That said, while they aren't that bad, they haven't really gotten me invested into them like I did for Altina, Fie, and Tio (as well as some other cute ones from CS). Maybe that'll change when I play Kuro 2. For Kai, I'm mainly looking forward to Altina and the Rean route cast (aside from Crow) and Kevin. I wasn't really interested in the Van route before, but the Kai ending got me a little interested.>redoing a character arc is always going to make them worse, solely because of the stagnationFair point. I'm obviously not looking to see them rehash the same character arc again. I would rather them just stick her in for cute moments than see the same shit twice but worst. Ideally I want to see some Rean x Altina development, but who knows with Falcom, they'll probably just save that for the very last game.>I will probably pirate both since all the modders will probably switch to the NISA version when it comes outI know I'll definitely pirate the CLE version, but I usually buy the NISA version since it's like the "official" localized version and not just a shitty port of the console version like what CLE does. Falcom doesn't really deserve money anyway, but Altina shows up at least, which is really the only reason why I would spend money in the first place. Altina's EN VA is also a nice bonus for me too, so I don't mind spending a little. She just kinda nails the young, robotic sounding girl voice to me, and she's done pretty when she needs to add some emotion in her lines.
>>496439794Anything his mistress demands, he meets. Fufu...
van should join ouroboros at the end of kai 2
I can't believe they revived Pater-Mater just to kill him again. Renne is gonna be pissed
>>496440370Van could already be an enforcer, just not this loop but the next one, as XVI.
>>496439694Lapis looks 12 now which is the ideal form. I hope she'll stay in that body forever.
>>496440320La-chan is the best
>>496440461maybe it would be cool
>>496436371Is Kai THAT bad?Kuro 34/40 (wasn't a good game either)Kuro II 33/40 (most player disliked it more than Kuro I)Kai: 32/40So basically Kai is a crap?
16. THE TOWER.-- Misery, distress, indigence, adversity, calamity, disgrace, deception, ruin. It is a card in particular of unforeseen catastrophe. Reversed: Negligence, absence, distribution, carelessness, distraction, apathy, nullity, vanity.>this one is more interestingThis card follows immediately after The Devil in all tarots that contain it, and is associated with sudden, disruptive revelation, and potentially destructive change. Some early painted decks, such as the Visconti-Sforza tarot, do not contain it>so this loop does not contain XVI enforcer but the next loop will contain XVI enforcer, just something to mull over.This is why I think Van Arkride is 95% the XVI enforcer.
>>496440310I warmed up to Agnes simply because of how aggressive she is. The girl has a lot of guts and is more forceful than what I expected from her.
>>496440727Better than Zero, CS2, SC, and 3rd.
>>496440727It's good
>>496440727>taking famitsu reviews seriouslyyou're genuinely retarded
wife
>>496440727
>>496440810kino if true
>>496440178Epstein died in 1154McBurn arrived in 1156
>>496440810oh shit. big if true. i can see agnes resetting the world causing van to become an enforcer if he remembers
I was the one who posted this a few days before nips got the game. Fuck you to the 3 anons who thought I was wrong>eat your balls now.
>>496441248>aroundall we know that the two events happened near each other but that's all
>>496440862I liked her a little more than I thought I would. She isn't just braindead retarded like Alisa, and isn't completely boring and irrelevant like Elie. I like that she accepts she needs to get her hands dirty if necessary, and doesn't try to be some kind of moralfag in every given situation.
>>496441381sorry anon I guess i didn't see it, but /fg/ always tends to be wrong 99% of the time
>>496440727Kuro is S just for its climax & ending
Look at 'em big ol' tiddies.
>>496441381I didn't see that. But I apologize anyway. Does that mean the other one is a spoiler too?
>>496441624*Kai
>>496441687where the hell did agnes get those big ass things? they were big but not big originally
>>496385057Solo estelle fag here. Heres my advice for estelle. Treat her like joshy. Start with a gold eq quartz in the center. Action and cast, then the rest of your build. In the early game you wont have much of a build. Arts are king in sky so normally youll have room for 4 more quartz in sc and 3 more in fc. Pick the spells you want, however in fc you wont have many options for boosting agi on estelle. I typically put earth, hp, and agi or arts def on her. If i have extra then a status effect like petrification is nice.
>>496441687
can't wait for time jannies in Sky remake! unironically
Would Anies beat Alisa or Elie in a fight?
UnisugaGODS we are so back...https://youtu.be/3vtl5jlWml4?si=30DgMYJ8YHyrApER
>>496431990Supposedly all tech turns to stone.
>>496441934nah i only used her as a heal slut
>>496441935Kino fight scene, also I just noticed that Van has his old outfit when he does gouten hansho craft, kek classic falcom.
>grown mentally but physically still loli and mega cute after all of these years>is the one who's with ReanWell, Altina is still perfect. As expected of a top-quality doll. If only Renne could have stayed loli and small-chested as well, stopping at most to her CS4 version. I can only hope Tio is allowed to remain small and slender.
>>496441687IM IN LOVE
>>496441934agnes is the only one of the three that would fight dirty to win
Let me know if I got anything wrong
why does falcom's singer look 10 years older than she is aren't japanese people supposed to look young until they're like 50
>>496436371>SC the lowestNips are fucking retarded
MOGGED
>>496442453ok nayuta is canon now? did i miss something?
>>496442285alberich didn't hold back did he haha... dont you fucking dare change tio kondom
>>496442285If only she had a personality
>>496442453you forgot this
>>496441687I'm convinced van is a faggot for turning down THAT
>>496441756She stopped holding back.
>>496442773to be determind isn't a confirmation.
I want Kai 2 so badI want Sky FC #20,000 so badAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
I'm really glad that falcom brought back Big Boss so early on. We still don't know his role in the story, but his presence in Van's group really is really great. Van mostly acts like the leader/teacher of the group but Bergard is Van's teacher who motivates him to be better, I also like Bergard's interactions with other spriggans.
Are we not exploring the Abyss Area in the Grim dungeon??? Novartis said that shit contains tons of info about the previous loops.
>>496442468You would age faster too if you had to work at falcom and perform singa shit.
>>496440310I would not say they are bad but I do not have any strong feelings about any of them, nor am I particularly interested in most of them. Anies, is a mixed bag for me, Alisa was hardly a high bar so almost anything would have been preferable.If they are driven to a final game any time soon, I only hope they go out with a bang, I guess that would be the time to set up Lloyd and Rean if they were to do it but I cannot imagine them doing so, would probably be too divisive a move.Yeah, I cannot really justify buying Kiseki anymore. Already bought everything up to Kuro excluding Ao anyway, they got enough of my money when I was new.>>496442285I really cannot get enough of Sen Renne, a worthy upgrade to Sora Renne, I doubt any future Renne's will look this good.
>>496443237singa bad
Ban...Leave Giacomo to me...you go on ahead.
Why's Engl*sh so soulless?
>>496408546I need an autist to make an updated Reandown and possibly one for Van. Not bannings tho, hes such a fucking loser its insane. Its embarrassing being the weakest protagonist in the series both in cutscenes and out.
>>496441381
>>496438289>Kiseki is a simple adventure series about people and society and friendship and shit, not a nerdy philosophical reflection on abstract elemental forcesAureole proves you wrong.
>>496441687imagine paizuri
>>496441381Oh shit dude. I kneel>>496441696>Does that mean the other one is a spoiler too?Seems so. I don't have a galaxy brain to figure it out, though.
So guys i just had a thought. Why do we believe this timeline reset was the only one in canon so far again?
>>496442643you missed anon being retarded, it's not canon yetit was used as a numeral, not noun
>>496443904We don’t. This shit is what most of the threads have been about
>>496443251My literal only hope for the final game is just the option to make Rean x Altina an actual couple. Even better if it was made a canon relationship just to piss off the xitter and redditfags. I would prefer if it was something really heartfelt and intimate, but I wouldn't mind if it was handled like Fie's CS4 final bond.
>>496443535Uihihi sorry i just have this instead. Wrong picture>he wants the quick Madodownuihihi, guess it's time to not hold back>first born of a high class family>final heir of legendary magical potential>secret lover of the mysterious big bad meguca who's actually good>such a chad that she adds every magical girl to her ever-expanding afterlife harem>Comes back to life solely to cuck her little brother>Chosen to pilot an ancient super mecha>Her and Harem members master and can fully control their *psh nothin personel kid" witch stand powers>wields light arrows and can omnipresences behind you>beats one of the most powerful city destroying witches solo that gets hyped up every timeline>grows up to become a teacher, can romance her underage students>just saying "uihihi" makes everybody drop their pants for her>uses the power of intelligence to defeat the true antagonist, interdimensional aliens that appeared before humanity was born>is the main character of the entire franchise, doesn't have to lift a finger for most of the show>breaks up budding romances between other characters that were developing over the course of millennia by adding magical girls to her afterlife>even the previous badasses hype up how good she is at magic>kills herself in a noble self sacrifice with her yuribait girlfriend to break a curse but not really because the even bigger bigger villains rewrite the timeline to get the true ending>Becomes one of the strongest characters in the universe>has the option to cuck Homura away from マドカ, Kyouko away from Sayaka, Sayaka away from kyousuke, etc.>a version of herself from an alternate timeline is trying to replace her because she's too chad>tops the 2013 saimoe poll the year homura's movie came out>made it so that the majority of the franchise's side media are about her>Is the fanbases favorite character, they go on to call the subsequent edgy magical girl anime and sequels embarrassing
So what is the general opinion of people who played KAI so far?Is it better than Kuro II or worse?
So she's the designated Ouroboros cumrag?
>>496444175Why would you pick any of the harem girls if you wanted cute and canon
>>496444437Rean x Altina is cute and canon though
>>496444426She works for the RAT!
>>496444175To be honest all I remember of Fie's final event is the "I'm eighteen now." out of nowhere only for them to almost immediately make her lament not being twenty because she wants to try drinking.If they go for another genuine romance, then the only thing you should accept is heartfelt and intimate. Anything else is a waste.Angry retards on Twiiter and Reddit would make for a good few chuckles, agreed.
I hope CLE releases KAI early next year and we can play in English
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3MYgPuSE3Q4who at falcom will compose music this good now that unisuga is gone
Ok, I have updated my power rankings in Zemuria
>>496442453>another person is a demon lord vesselwatwho
>>496444337Better, some people are mostly disappointed that it ends on a cliffhanger and despite answering a lot of questions we still have a lot more that needs to be answered.
>>496409716>Hey so im replaying cold steel, why's 3 so hated here?I don't know about the rest of the board since I only pop in from time to time, but I disliked it as soon as I played it back when the fandom said it was great and better than CS2, when I thought it was the opposite. I loved CS2, and that game ended with the narrative trajectory that Class VII had realized who the true enemy was and saw how he had just crushed the ILF and the NA, and that they would need to prepare to confront him in the future. Meanwhile, Rean had become an invader and an agent of the enemy. When CS3 was announced and we saw Rean seemingly fighting against a grown up Tyzel, my impression was that Rean was going to be in an antagonist role similar to Loewe fighting against Class VII and the other Trails casts. Arianrhod, Campanella, and McBurn were also advertised so it seemed like we were finally going to get payoff to the Ouroboros plot. Then came the actual game. We get a status quo reset back to CS1 where Rean is a do-gooder going to school and Class VII are clueless that Osborne is evil and have done nothing to prepare to fight him. Class VII does nothing until half way through the final chapter, 110 hours into this 130 hour long game. Plot wise, literally nothing happens during the first 100 hours. You fruitlessly chase around Ouroboros as they wreck havoc for no reason and do not manage to kill or capture and interrogate anyone. Almost all of the interesting stuff is backloaded in the last 20 hours, and then all of that is undone in the very next game when the character deaths are undone and the cataclysmic world war that had been built up for 1,000 hours is called off.1/2
>Gramhart! stop what you're doing! because... muh Agnes!!!
>>496444337Bro theres probably like 1 guy at mose here who has actually played Kai and not just watched the chink streams.
>>496445719They baked a cake and didn't wanna waste it, okay?
>>496445719Van is literally me, he just wanted to celebrate his waifu's birthday and eat the cake.
>>496445520ShimeonKinkeido
>>4964456272/2That then leaves you with the rest of the game. Aesthetics are good, though the locations are underwhelming as almost all of them except Ordis are rehashes of prior locations I was more invested in. I cared more about Celdic than Parm, more about Bareahard than Saint-Arkh, more about Trista than Leeves, more about Roer than Raquel, and so on. And then for Crossbell, Ao made me despise Crossbell and its people and their intrusion into not one but three Cold Steel games dragged down my enjoyment. Soundtrack is overall not as good as CS1 and CS2. The quality of the English localization and voice acting declined, with a lot of the recasts and new characters not sounding as good as the CS1+2 voices. The minor NPCs and Leeves students were hit the worst. And then the gameplay was braindead easy on nightmare difficulty outside of the dark dragon fight and the divine knight battles. CS1+2 were a joy to beat on nightmare. And then when compared to CS4, CS4 at least ended the story and had more interesting stuff throughout the whole game like Machias meeting his sister's lover or Jusis going to Bareahard or the various confrontations with the Ironbloods. And then Reverie had a better Rean and Rufus plot and had much engaging gameplay on abyss difficulty. So CS3 is the worst of the Cold Steel games.
>>496443815two sides of the same coin.....
>>496440810>calvard was originally supposed to have an enforcer protagonist but they couldnt find an angle on it>have the final game of calvard with van as an enforcerkek that would be funny
>>496445813>>496445834Sorry Van, no cake for you until you somehow save Agnes, break the cube, punch the RAT, and satisfy the GM.
>>496445134>all I remember of Fie's final event is the "I'm eighteen now."Honestly that's all I remembered too kek. I just rewatched it and pretty much>they confess>fie says he's closer than just family>fireworks start>fie says she's 18>they kissIt's actually a little cuter than I remembered it. I probably still wouldn't mind if Altina's was something like that, but you're right that it has to be heartfelt and intimate if it was a genuine romance, especially with how they are with each other now. If they just do some shiptease shit like in CS4, I honestly don't know what I'd do lol. except maybe webm
Sky should've been 1 game + gaiden (3rd)Crossbell should've been 1 gameErebonia should've been 2 games + gaiden (hajimari)everything about Kuro 2 shouldn't have existedKai should've been Kuro 2Falcom should learn how to pacing.
>>496446224Unfortunately it's never going to happen but yeah this series should have been half as long as it is
>>496446250MTL isn't English
>>496446368MTL still better than NISA
>>496446224very original and controversial take
>>496431998So this is Nina speaking in beyondian right? Seems like blue hair is tied to being from thr Beyond
>>496446224I think they just want to milk the engine and assets they already have for as long as possible.
bros i am playing through final fantasy xvi and it is just making me wonder if falcom could ever write a narrative this mature
I thought that Cold Steel went on for as long as it did because it was selling so well and they just wanted to milk it but Kuro has been selling like 1/3rd of CS at it's peak and Calvard was still 4 games long. I think Falcom literally just can't help themselves.
>lol FFXVI, they literally plagiarised GoT.
>destroying Time Septerrion in Kai 2>2 more Septerrion>East Zemuria>Southern Archipelago>Demons>The Beyond>Great CollapseHow many games left?
>>496446776the protagonist of FFXVI has deep flawshe has killedwomen dont immediately wet themselves upon meeting himthis is unfathomable to the reanbrain
>>496446791way more since the sky remake is Kai's sequel
>finish kuro 1>well that a nice setup game, cant way to see the payoff next game>finish kuro 2>well they didn't pay anything off but hopefully next game they finally pay everything off>finish kai>haha... surely next game.... haha....falcom please stop jerking me around
>>496446553>narrative this maturedo we not have faggotry shit already?
So Sky remake is FAKE? It is basically not remake but an alternative timeline?Van will arrive kill Joshua and NTR Esther?
>>496446915what do you think is gay about FFXVI
>>4964467911 more 4 game arc, a transitional game then finale arc. Alternatively two 2 game arcs for the water and wind sept terrions into a transitional game into the finale
>they could've fixed Sky pacing by remaking FC & SC as one game, cutting all the padding>they didn't
>>496446965>It is basically not remake but an alternative timeline?We don't know yet, since we don't know when the reset starts.
>>496446791A lot I hope
>>496446965There's only 1 timeline with thousands of loops, so it's the NEXT timeline, not alternative.
>>496446159It is not bad I suppose but I feel like she was a lot more intimate in the first two, even without the kiss. If I had to guess going off of vague memories it is probably because there is never any progress with Fie after Sen II and she just stagnates at that level but also somehow gets less intimate.This is the second time I have seen this webm but it is no less amusing. I wonder how old it is.
im just going to be honest as a 31 year old man i am feeling rather alienated by the simplicity of falcom plotstrails in the sky trilogy had some good character depth but its only become more juvenile and self-inserty ever since
Sky being a sequel is probably not a good idea right
FELLAS, I LOVE KISEKI
So the whole reparation thing is orchestrated by gramheart so he can have funds for his mecha and nukes?
>>496441935i like how they do the seamless transitions from cutscene to gameplay now, this whole sequence was sick
i hope someday kiseki will feature a protagonist who isnt afraid to kill
>>496447454Kebin-san...
>>496447362Me too
>>496447404yeah the improvement was already noticeable from kuro 1 to 2, but in Kai they went all out with the fully animated scenes.
>>496447365Erebonia was probably wanted to do something like that as a sorry anyway. The reparations were used to overhaul Calvard's economy etc, I think. So yea, maybe some of that went into Excalibur too. >>496447454Wasn't Van supposed to be grey? Why didn't they do it with him
>>496447454We already have kebin and ban though.They're just surrounded by moralfags so they're cucked when they try to kill someone.
turning judith into a housewife
>>496447362I love you fellow konoha chad but are we really fine with this? Are we fine with kiseki wallowing in medicrity? Isnt it time to make our own future?
>>496447362Das rite
>>496447675Considering that Alexandre, Viola and Olympia are now part of the maskedfags it means that Van canonically killed them all.
i feel like kiseki is failing to grow along with its audienceas an example earlier harry potter titles were very PG but it got more mature as the series went onthis is how i feel kiseki is nowit was designed to appeal to 14 year olds. now the audience has grown up, but the maturity of the narrative has been unable to keep up
>>496447860Kiseki is better than ever though
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bpQQQamA16othis is an actual singa banger
>>496448064She supports Chelsea.....it's over....
>>496448064In my opinion its not but if you dont agree theres nothing for me to say. As a creative type kiseki burns me to create. Its why i fashion so many original and fanfiction storylines that are based around the comfort it offers.
>here's your main rival bro
>>496448054Kiseki is still my favorite series and I've been following Falcom for over a decade
>>496448054You are objectively wrong. Fc and sc and 3rd where designed for pc users in japan which had no shortage of adults. Thats why people say loyd rean and ban are harem slop and cancer, since it represented the change in target audiance at the time.
>>496447795Can they let us choose for the next game please?
Stop using dumb pics that has nowt to do with falcom. Take your retarded argument elsewhere
I played Sen 1 & 2 in high school and loved it. edgy teens were the target audience of Erebonia arc. Calvard is more mature.
>>496447191Now that you mention it her CS2 one was actually really good too. I don't really remember much from CS1, other than her talking to Rean through Valimar, but in 2 that heart to heart talk they had was really cute and you could really feel how much closer they got after it. I would obviously like something more intimate than that and the CS4 one though for Altina, she just kinda deserves it after all they did together. >webmThe webm is genuinely hilarious. No idea where it's from though, just saw it posted here and fucking loved it. That actor looking like kondom was just meant to be kek
>>496448428No. Go play some harem shit if you that
>>496448054And that's a good thing.
cute
>>496448472>>Calvard is more mature.>muh birthday!
I thought Kais OST was pretty meh when we were watching the stream but going through it now there's actually quite a few songs I like.
>>496448458Pc 98 is always falcom related
kai finale looks like the best one in the entire series
>>496447795From what I've seen about Shizuna in Kai, it seems like her character arc will be about breaking free from her role that YKF gave her. Van will probably break her sword and will take her as part of his spriggans, in a sense finding your own true sword also could mean finding your own way in life and it seems like Shizuna wants to stay with Van and co.
>>496448956If only kevin didnt get cucked by picnic group from salting hamilton. hahaha
>>496448478I do not typically feel much emotion but the Sen I ending did hit me pretty hard, I was not expecting a send off like that. Before the Valimar ending there was the dance at night, which was a nice experience.Sen II was just really cute and warm and I was really looking forward to more of that. I will never forgive Falcom.I assumed AI had a hand in the face but it is probably older than widespread use of AI for stuff like that.
>>496448956The entire space segment was so fucking hype and I was actually so deflated when Emilia lost. Plus the whole fight scene against Rene was some of the coolest shit Falcom has ever done.
>>496448975Nta, but she and ka fai both say they need to settle things and that Rean needs a new sword.
but Shizuna is crap, looks like a generic ps2 characterwhat do you like about her...
kek
>>496449209Will be looking forward to Kai 2 for the Rematch of both fights.
>>496449231What does it have to do with what I just said? Shizuna and rean might get another fight, but it's pretty much settled that Van will be the one who'll complete her character arc.
>>496449594>but it's pretty much settled that Van will be the one who'll complete her character arc.Anon, YKF trained/groomed them for whatever he's planning. She's just a foil for him while they, in turn, help Emilia. Super cliche.
>>496449320Shizuna's fun and Uchida Maaya's voice is pure sex, also a reminder that Laura has a pretty large fanbase, so you should think twice before criticizing Shizunfags.
>>496446010rean and shizuna are soulmates not gonna claim it's on a romantic sense of course but their swordfights is her interplay of sex and violence for sure
>>496449802Read what I wrote again retard >>496448975Or you're just another coping reanspic? Didn't you have enough humiliation in Kai already?
>>496448975>breaking free from her role that YKF gave herbut she doesn't say or show any resistance to him or his plans or whatever is happening with haha man. we also don't know what YKF is up to, so how can she break free from something that isn't even known
>>496448334is that kincaid like 20 years from the future
>>496449802You're talking to the schizo who obsesses over Rean, he's not even capable of admitting what's written in his route and just acts like an egomaniac.
>>496450086Oh
>muh I must break from the destiny that was prepared for me cause I'M FREE the "freedom" that this other would somehow give me
Public Service Announcement: Altina pantsu are really cute!
>>496450181>gave her unique bunny panties againkondo i kneel
>>496450181rabbits? lol nice
>>496449117CS2 had a lot of really cute moments with Fie after the war part. Your pic and the one the night before they all leave Thors were the big standouts to me, I don't remember if there were any others though. Them resetting all of it in CS3 was such a retarded move by Falcom. Even if the excuse they used with the new engine was true, they could've just had you pick in the beginning again like in Reverie. If it wasn't for Altina saving the game, I don't even think I could've slogged my way through. Quite likely I would've just dropped it at some point.
Irein...
>>496450375>elaine did so little during the main game they had to put her bonding event in the op
>>496450181>rean also likes themhaha...
>>496441687van is genuinely retarded
>>496450539KEK
>>496450548okay agnes
love this nigga man
>>496410434I will now buy your game. I mean, when NISA releases it haha
>>496450017>so how can she break free from something that isn't even knownHe teached her black god one blade specifically to be a foil to Rean.As for my theory just look at Shizuna through the games.>started off as a whimsical battle maniac>started spending more time with Van and co.>specifically invited Van to the far east, he even said that she just dropped something meaningful in there (which implies that it's a foreshadowing)>begins to enjoy her time as a spriggan rather than Ikaruga's vice commander>Van says that she isn't the same Shizuna he first met and despite still enjoying fighting she keeps giving them her strength>ignores YKF orders to be present in Longlai and fight with rean again because she wants to be with Van and co.>specifically stated that after Rean she needs to overcome VanIdk man, the premise is already done. At this point we only have to wait and see, you can screenshot this if you want and point it to my face if I end up being wrong.
>NISA release of kai>have to go through memes that i dont understand since i'm not chronically online to catch up with trendsI hate it.
I don't care about Shizunashe's a boring WAKU WAKU EXCITING SWORD BATORU Goku clone
>>496450803I think you're ignoring too much of what happened with ka fai and rean. Especially since those were in the main story and not just connect events
>>496450973like what?
>>496450892>Goku clonethats estelle
>>496449803Uchida Maaya has a loooooooot of better roles.On all the picture I see of Shizuna she is like someone being fucked atm, her eyes are weird too
>>496450803>specifically stated that after Rean she needs to overcome VanThis never happened. There's no "after". She just says she wants to overcome everyone like the battle junkie she is.She never overcame Rean, who beat her albeit for a short second, just Van.>ignores YKF orders to be present in Longlai and fight with rean again because she wants to be with Van and co.This also doesn't happen.Ikaruga didn't know YKF was planning for Rean to come where they were, she went on her own because their contract with Gramheart had ended.You just sound like someone who wants Shizuna to fuck Van badly but doesn't understand that such an option is just not going to happen since Agnes was locked hard on as the sole romantic interest.
why do shizunafags like agnes so much
Astlibra did the perpetual time reset thing better
in the good timeline, falcom would be the one swimming in money, not mihoyo
>>496451502>This also doesn't happen.>Ikaruga didn't know YKF was planning for Rean to come where they were, she went on her own because their contract with Gramheart had ended.kys reanspic
>>496452065>MTLpoint proven SEAtrash, Shizuna will never fuck Van btw
>>496451576I just hate lying reanspics that's all, I don't even ship Shizuna with Van that much. I just hate reanspics pushing their retarded headcanons and after getting humiliated when they acted so uppity before Kai's release, they're in turbo cope mode right now.
>>496452315I accept your concession Pablo
>>496452502How did Rean get humiliated when his parts are the best in the game and Van is the most boring? lmao
>>496451064>YKF trained Shizuna for Project Leviathen>YKF hid himself from Rean so he could get stronger>plans on using them both>both of them saying he'll need a new sword>Shizuna saying she and him need to settle things>Tells him to talk to YKF after the encounterIf we include one of her connect events, then:>fight him>gets interupted>bottled up exceitment causes the curse/darkness to run wildThis game somehow ties them closer together, man.
>>496452751and did nothing with it.the world got reset before any of our heroes could do anything.
>>496452767They're so cute together
>>496452643See >>496452502>they're in turbo cope mode right now.
>>496452862Don't forget, YKF somehow knew Rean would remember what happens after the reset. Crow too. And they all find out about the reset before Shizuna and the Spriggans do.
I feel like Rean's route didn't add anything
>>496453086
>>496453017Shizuna is still irrelevant. Only Divine Knights would even have a chance against Space Ishmelga.
>>496453230It's not that Rean's route didn't add anything, it's moreso that everything in his route is pure sequel-bait, along with the implication that the Divine Knights/The Great One might be needed in order to deal with the pissed-off time cube.
>>496453454Sounds like it didn't do anything
>>496453230I'd say mentioning the Steel Sept Terrion and the consequences surrounding it are big things of note.>>496453443Maybe Shizuna is the key to the new sword thing? She seemed to know what it was or was familiar with it when they talked. Or they put her ass in a mech, and she helps out, lol
>>496453290Does Lloyd deserve a kiss from her?
Can't we just have rean and shizuna settle things without killing?I dont really give a shit if they went their own ways(rean doing his own shit while shizuna begs van to fuck her while watching agnes and van fuck).
Honestly couldn't care less about rean and his faggotry. Just give me Van and more 4spg comfy hours.
>>496453086>>496453290is it going to be posted every single thread?
>>496453589>I'd say mentioning the Steel Sept Terrion and the consequences surrounding it are big things of noteWhy did he need his own route if nothing happens in it besides 1 singular line at the end
How long has it been since last proper cliffhanger? Was it CS3? That was ages ago. I legitimately prefer cliffhangers over proper ends.
>>496453809yes
>>496453924I think Kai achieved a lot more. Sen 3 didn't have that many revelations compared to Kai and THAT ending managed to somewhat revive /fg/.
>>496453925Based. Make the Reanspics seethe over Van gradually growing a superior harem while Rean Shitzer's harem dwindles after every game.
>>496453924CS3 yes. Gonna have to wait until 2026 or 2027 to see if things work out for Van like it did for Rean in CS4.
>>496453842Well there's also the whole "we need to see if Calvard is becoming a threat" thing. And if I remember right, they're one of the first to find out about the reset stuff.
luv genki whore stacy
For me, it’s THE RAT who made Kai good.
I NEED KAI 2 NOW
>>496453924>CS3I'm like 10x more invested in Van and Agnes getting their happy end that I ever was in Boreang Schwarzer
>>496454201Kevin's first chapter shows you that Hamilton is fucking with time, for loops/resets specifically I think it's in all 3 routes in chapter 3 and it just depends on whatever you play first
>Hashimoto: Recent RPGs have been very difficult, and it takes a lot of willpower to finish them. So eventually we came to have our doubts: was this really “fun”? With Ys, therefore, we set out to create the opposite kind of game, something that would be accessible, easy to play, and not geared toward hardcore RPG maniacs.
>>496453924I prefer endings. It's horseshit that we know nothing about Mare or Van's origins in his 3rd damm game.
>>496454237>nobody but /fg/ called it
>>496454620Wonder what will happen to Hamilton by the end of the arc.
>>496454620it's not clear from Kevin's first chapter whether it's something related to time or just AR stuff or something like that
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>You can repeatedly reset the floor until a pom shows up early in the grid>Fight the poms>Oneshot them with S-Craft>Get a shitton of Sepith and Sepith Mass for Mira for practically zero effortNice game balance Falcom
>>496454659>It's horseshit that we know nothing about Mare or Van's origins in his 3rd damm game.I don't mind at all. I view them the same way I view happiness stone. When it's time it's time.
>>496454659Van = McBurnMea = AI from the previous loop
How's the difficulty in Kai, is nightmare mode still braindead?
>>496454945sounds too tryhard
>>496454951>When it's time it's timeThe time was now considering 1 of the damm routes is just sequel bait so I don't see why they couldn't do that for Van too. Nothing at all is given about either thing. We got more questions and fewer answers.
>>496455074Kai is a kiseki game therefore braindead.
>>496455074someone was saying that they gave up on actually balancing it and now bosses just spam heal/buff themselves and spam all-cancel so it sounds really annoying
>>496434140Anon that's literally the overarching plot of Xenosaga
>>496455195Maybe CS1 onwards where physical attacks actually don't suck. Pre-CS was pretty brutal especially fucking Kurt.
>>496454945good, getting sepith was cancer in kuro.
Did they add any new quartz and shard skills in Kai? Or is this the third game in a row that they added literally nothing except for more team attack gimmicks? Falcom don't seem to realize how lacking in variety the quartz and shard skill options are.
>>496455510haha... naa bro youll take your mechanicbloat and like it!
>>496455338>spam all-cancelWhat the hell?
>>496455139I suppose it is, but gotta farm them eventually to unlock everyone's slot
>>496455739If Dual Arts are still a thing, you can easily fire one right back with the fucking whale anyway. Cetus Phantasma is way too fucking powerful that them spamming all cancels seems like a decent trade off seeing as you can do that as well plus ark feather and status debuffs.
>>496455906Dual Arts and Cetus Phantasma are still in. Not sure if they have anything even more busted yet
>>496455939If Van's final episode will be called Kuro no Kiseki 3 I'll kneel to Kondo.
>>496455939chapter doesn't mean a gameit means chapter as in a story unitthat's why kai ends up with mentioning episode as opposed to something else
>>496452065I hope you aren't seriously posting mtl as proofs anon
>>496452065He is
Hajimari: Shizuna will be important next gameKuro: Shizuna will be important next gameKuro 2: Shizuna will be important next gameKai: Shizuna will be important next game
>>496456412kondum moment
>>496456412look at this plot...
>>496456412average kiseki storytelling"next time we promise"
>If you had to pick one character we’ll have to be on the lookout for in the sequel, who would it be?>Kondo: Characters like President Gramheart will definitely take the spotlight. So far, we’ve depicted him as a politician and now we’ll go digging deeper into his character. Same goes for Shizuna. If you were to ask whether her storyline has been shown so far, then the answer is no. There’s still much to discuss, like the inner working of Ikaruga. Then, of course, there’s Van. There’s still a lot to resolve, especially for a protagonist, like the mystery surrounding Grendel and his relationship with Agnès and Elaine.
>>496456737classic kondo
>>496456737I guess only Gramheart part was true. We still don't really about Shizuna that much, only bits from her connect event. Van's part made me laugh. 3 fucking games and we still don't know what Grendel, Mare and demon lords are.
>>496456737How does he keep getting away with it...
>>496456737>Then, of course, there’s Van. There’s still a lot to resolveWhy didn't he do it. What a faggot
>>496457603To be continued Van's final episode
Why the fuck is the RAT so strong randomly? Van was falling to his knees after fighting random goons with Grendel, meanwhile Rato casually stomps the whole gang + Shizuna, THE STRONGEST JAEGER and Elaine without breaking a sweat.
>>496458118Didn't he steel all the genesis? Maybe that's why. If not it's a pure ass pull
>>496458118he has the power of the 8 genesis and the blessing of Agnes
>>496458118because the power levels make no fucking sense and only exist for whatever the plot needs to happenif the plot falcom wanted needed gilbert to defeat every single character in the series at once to move forward falcom would do it without thinking twice
>>496458118Idk i thought Van was stronger in terms of pure strength. The RAT just had way too many broken abilities, when he stopped the time Van was surprised about Rune having this power.
>>496458273It just bothers me that with Van they at least pointed out that he is a martial artist. Meanwhile that guy, who barely could roll in previous games is somehow frontflipping all over the place. I guess he was losing to Van 1on1 without his portals.I wish we got Golden Grendel teased in Kuro 1 with slow build up for that reveal.
SOPHIE.....AGNES.....AAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHH!
>>496458118find out in kai 2
>>496459509He's gonna kill himself if he remembers
>>496459509The moment I heard his voice, I was calling him doing everything for the sake of Agnes, but I didn't expect them to double down like this>IRIIIIII....>ILLYAAA...>AAAAAHHHHH!
>>496459945>I didn't expect them to double down like thisThey both did what they thought was right. For the greater good.
>>496459509I hope this pedo kills himself
>>496459509Osborne wouldn't have let things go down the way they did.
I heard that japs have a mixed reaction to Kai's ending. Did they also have the same reaction for sen 3?
>>496461025>>496461025>>496461025
>>496460660Chad: Fuck off to your den of snakes and come back once you decide to be my bitches.-VS-Virgin: Please don't ruin my Startaker plan.
>>496461193kek
>>4964581188 Genesis?
