Previous: >>497077235>Download - https://hsr.hoyoverse.com/en-us/home>2.5 Preview Page - https://act.hoyoverse.com/sr/event/e20240830version-2zj3e2/index.html>Version 2.5 Trailer — "Flying Aureus Shot to Lupine Rue"https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DMHigW8mq9g https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P8xr7__k1xo >Lingsha Trailer — "Burning Scent of Home"https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HyS-McxYXpU https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xrr9F4bih3c >Current Character Banners: (Lingsha, Topaz + Misha, Natasha, Guinaifen) - https://www.hoyolab.com/article/33777781>Current Light Cone Banners: Scent Alone Stays True (Abundance), Worrisome, Blissful (The Hunt) - https://www.hoyolab.com/article/33777892>New Drip Marketing:>Rappa (5* Imaginary Erudition) - https://www.hoyolab.com/article/32521040>Redeemable Codes - https://hsr.hoyoverse.com/gift5T3Y6764D3Q3 (NEW)STARRAILGIFTLINGSHAQUIZXRPTL1P7K5H8WCM25RWG44W62FeixiaoFilesFeixiao0910FeixiaoGeneral>/hsrg/ Tools & Resourceshttps://rentry.org/hsrg-resources-14>/hsrg/ Thread Templatehttps://rentry.org/hsrg-thread-template-14
>>497104403mommy...
>>497104403I miss mom
HSR desperately needs a Yelan expy
Is Black Swan emanator of Remembrance?
>>497104545No
>>497104531I love AI
>ZZZ>Not even a year old>All the events of the game so far happen in the small city of New Eridu, within a few weeks since the start of the story>Already more varied and interesting playable races and species than there are in Star Rail's entire known universe>Doesn't even use recycled base modelsShartkeks? Explain?
>>497104529strongly agreeall my prayers will be answered the Yelan expy ends up being the long awaited Physical Nihility DOThag>>497104545>Emanator of RemembranceMarch 7th final form
My girlfriend is so cute
>>497104545I still don't get why BSwan don't btfo the messenger and replace her as our MoC NPC. Why did she even join the express crew then?
I want to fuck Clara
>>497104487God, I wish I had a sister like Robin...
Firefly love
>>497104403I used Jingliu for SU yesterday and enjoyed myself so I decided to give her and her shitty build some love.I guess it would be a waste to not use this over an ice damage orb with just one crit roll and shitty subs right?
Ten most attractive girls (in no particular order)>Herta>Fu Xuan>March 7th>Sparkle>Lingsha>Silver Wolf>Acheron>Guinaifen>Sushang>Yunli
Bronya rabu!
>>497104403MOMMY WHERE ARE YOU?
>>497104835she's gonna blush
Stop liking evil women
Yunli looks like she's got really stinky armpits
*likes barefoot hebes instead*done
>>497104953uhm... nyo
>>497104914Only fanart can make her pretty
>>497104953Robin isn't evil. She just sold her planet to free her brother then fuck off on an intergalactic tour
>>497104953
I want to lick Yunli's entire body
Who's the ugliest female railer? I'm stuck between Pela and Jade.
>>497105081Kafka's roast beef is hanging out...
>>497105190Hook
Despite how often she bathes and oils herself in aromatic oils, Tingyun still can't stop smelling like a zombie fox
>>497105190Definitely Jade. Pela is really pretty, I love her hair. Maybe you just hate the glasses.
>>497103041Why are you comparing an ult to HTBs skill? Not like you can spam ult. And the anon you replied to specifically mentions skill usage, so using skill on sustain means 1 less skill on HTB. >Imaginary vs fire.There is no difference in super break damage between the elements. I hope you're not that same retard from a few days back who kept claiming img is 1/4 the damage of fire super break damage, who got told he was wrong multiple times by different anons and refused to provide any proof for screenshots of HTB vs Firefly super break damage when asked to prove his point.
>>497104531>>497105110ima go think about gettin past that in the shower
>>497104815use the optimizer, odds are the shitty ice orb is still betterbtw new 4pc set is a slight upgrade over ice/quantum
>>497105239Hook is sexy af
>>497105239Hook is the cutest though
>>497105298>btw new 4pc set is a slight upgrade over ice/quantumNTA, but how much of an upgrade? I farmed a decent ice set for my wonderful wife, but wouldn't mind spending a patch farming that if it is a substantial upgrade.
>>497105190Jade as far as adult women goQQ as far as hebes goHonestly Pela is just ugly because of the megane debuff,
Sex with aeonic entities beyond my human comprehension
>>497105190 Numby
it's 3 am
>>497105458>the will of transmutation????
>>497105496Good morning....
>>497105547Yeah Qlipoth isn't only good at defense. The Stonehearts have all sorts of wacky powers.
>>497105190pela is ugly because of both her glasses and her mid tier haircut
>>497105631>hime cut >uglylol you are completely gay
>>497105423depends on the setup, around 5%
>>497105190Lingsha. If you want to fuck someone that looks like that, you'd pick sparkle every single time.
>>497105190>JadeYou're a faggot
>>497105496>>497105110Love this poseGYAAAAAATTTT
>>497104620nta but the last lgbt autism i recall were them flag niggas talking about the colors on robin's cheek though
>>497105298Alright, thanks. >btw new 4pc set is a slight upgrade over ice/quantumIt looks good and my current boots and chest are garbage, so I will make sure to farm there. Farming the ice set feels like a waste of fuel with the second set I can't use.
>>497104815Bro, she got a lot atk and cdmg. Ice dmg bonus give greater improvement than atk.She has like 1700+ atk and 25cmdg bonus, more if you bring sparkle/brony
>>497105787I'd probably choose Sparkle 1/2 of the time and Lingsha the other half. They have different body types.
>>497105730Fuck that is big enough to be kinda worth it, but at the same time also small enough that it won't change her performance that much. Guess the other set is also good for Sparkle, Bronya and potentially Sunday, so at least it would be efficient to farm both sets at the same time.
Lingsha sex
took a break when firefly released and just came back,what did i miss?
>>497105868>Ice dmg bonus give greater improvement than atk.I know that usually is the case, but my ice orb options just are utter shit with no more than one good sub or roll into them
>>497106240average space china experience so meh
Topaz rabu!
People who pull for linshart are either metafag or low iq coomer
>>497106240Nothing important.
I'm a low IQ coomer
sex with fofo corin and mobius!
Why did Ack owners rolled for pink fox more than FF owners did for Bricksha?
>>497106367>implying there are high iq coomersyou're probably a filthy coomer yourself, but you're a piss poor pagloid as well
WE NEED GYATTS
>>497106563They did?
>>497104403Those are some big honkais
>>497106367though gallag e6 and vent are more meta for their respective teams?>>497106563they couldve treated him as a eunuch which is common with china shit usually and also theres no one else thats tailor made for ack compared to ff
>>497106665firefly... lostalso>fu xuan still higher than urinetransfaggots btfo'd
>>497106665Well pink fox banner looks like it will outsell Bricksha's.
>>497106610I don't think sexual urges, a biological function, have anything to do with problem-solving ability.
>>497106563>Ack ownerspeople only rolled for her for meta>FF ownerspeople rolled for her because they like her
>decide to do a DU8 run for once>do Useless Scholar Feixiao>last boss was Sam>still cleared itIt's pretty broken bwos
>>497106665The discrepancy between IPC usage and shitposts is funny
>>497106805coomers are not normalfags, the term means they think about sex 24/7
>>497106871I tried using Topaz this PF but I simply couldn't due to Huntbrick
>>497106757>most used damage dealer>lost
>>497105190Jadeshe is boring af
>>497106563JQ boosts her numbers, Bricksha is a literal brick. This is the same general who said they'd get Lingsha no matter what to remove Gallagher lmao. Just metatrannies as usual.
Just to double check, if I have Bronya E2 I can safely use atk% boots on Jingliu? My concern is Jingliu entering schizo state after Bronya skill so the advance drops the E2 speed buff, but standard Jingliu rotation of 2 normal skills and 3 enhanced after using technique means that never happens, right?
>>497106805Cumbrains aren't defined by their ossession of sexual urges; they're defined by their lack of impulse control, which is something that carries over to learning and by extension intelligence
>>497104403
>>497106367Lingsha has a Bnnuy and that makes it worth it.
I pulled for Lingsha
>>497106665>RM = top tier>Robin = top tier>Sparkle = shit tierI'm nooticin
>>497106937She's not a damage dealer. It's literally all TB's damage, soon to be dead fox's damage.
Hey I got it
>>497107153russian keyboard
>>497106957Bronya rotation also can fucked you if you have no sp and you use basic attack Bronya and cause her talent trigger, suddenly her action is before Jingloo turn. My suggestion is to keep her boots because extra speed is always good. 40%~atk mean 400 atk which not worth compared to her 4k atk
>>497106937More people use Firefly in a PF cycle that shills break giga hard on one side and Feixiao still has higher points on average who's a literal Hunt unit.
>>497106937now try using firefly without hmc and tell me if she's a damage dealer like jingliu or feixiao
>>497107153>qqposter is russian
>>497107142Retarded post, other characters can't deal as much superbreak damage as her.
>>497106898>>497107036Well I don't think that necessarily applies to people who rolled for Lingsha because they find her hot. If you derive enjoyment from having a roster full of hot girls, that's not necessarily the sign of a lack of impulse control but a fully aware choice.
Which posters would you want to have sex with most?
>>497107153hello fellow Yarilo-7 comrade
>>497107389This is QQposter behavior, stop being a sexpest.
>troons still dilating over people rolling and jacking off to lingshaLmao
>>497107389Topazposters.
>>497107308at least 2-3 are
>>497107142>>497107270>>497107306>NOOOOO DOESN'T COUNT SHE NEEDS TO CLEAR EVERYTHING ALONEWhy are other characters allowed to use supports but not her for some reason? TB is even free.
I got Lingsha so I can let Gallagher rest in peace and not drag his corpse to the fights like some faggots in this thread.
>>497107389sparkleposters and fofoposters are retarded, so no thanks. hagposters probably?
>"It's not because I have zero self control, it just preference"Say that again without ever masturbating to lingsha
>Lingsha>Rappa>reruns of characters that most people already haveWhat were they thinking giving us a bunch of skip banners?
when drip market?
>>497107497wtf
>>497107263I'm assuming optimal rotation, so Bronya not having SP to skill shouldn't happen unless I'm stupid and make a mistake. Also, wouldn't the same happen even if you have Jingliu on 135 speed? 134 speed Bronya basic has 52.23 AV, while even 164.4 speed Jingliu takes 60.8 AV. >40%~atk mean 400 atk which not worth compared to her 4k atkThat is true, Jingliu just gets so much atk for free that it probably doesn't even matter. Guess I just keep her on speed for now, and maybe reconsider if a new support like Sunday would change anything.
>>497107546Name one thing wrong with masturbating to Lingsha in moderation.
Stop liking cute sons!
>>497107814son or daughter I would suck those toes
>>497107814That's a man.
>>497107471The point is that you can replace her with anything, even Gallagher or Lingsha, and the end result will be the same. She's just a tool to trigger TB's superbreak. Once an actually good non-hunt breaker comes out, you'll see how worthless Firefly is. Even Rappa is a better superbreak enabler, and she's a walking meme.
>>497107389Aventurine poster because they are likely females
>>497107389Anyone but the qqposters
>>497108056I don't think they'll release a destruction that applies a weakness while breaking so easily
Please don't forget about Serval, she needs a baby
>>497108056No they wont lmao, Firefly does more damage and can apply fire weakness. Gallagher and Lingsha can't do shit against non fire enemies, Rappa not having weakness implant makes her worthless too.
>>497107389That QQ (?) poster who posted his soft and feminine looking cock right after cooming
>>497108161Serval is for babyboy Gepard
>>497108161
>>497107153I thought of buying star rail merch but I hate this game now so maybe I will not
>>497108323Why the fuck are you here if you hate the game?
>>497108170I love how retards always ignore that Firefly is good against all content thanks to her implant>ummm but actually if every enemy is fire weak and there's 5 enemies and they all have low toughness Lingsha and Gallagher can almost do more damage than Firefly kek
>>497108161reminder that she's pushing 40 and still goes around dressed like a teenager
Is the Duran set bad for march 7th (hunt) ? I don't see anyone recommending it but it seems decent for her. Mostly asking since I have a few crazy pieces with good subs for Duran but shit on other sets.
>>497108170NTA but fire weakness is ST only and via tech, but the tech doesn't hit later joining enemies like in PF or in general any reinforcements summoned. So when fire can't break she quickly gets issues as well.It's the natural weakness of break. It's why a crit Lingsha is even relevant. Normal damage always works, even if it's with a -20% penalty. Obviously nowhere near as good as break when break works, but a fuckton better if it doesn't.
>>497108323Has it ever occured to you that you can spend your time in threads of games you like? Or are you too retarded and you need someone else to point this out to you?
>>497108275Why he wants his sister to continue the bloodline while Gepard himself could impregnate the whole Belobog?
>>497108379Kinda cute...
Serval and Gepard have some great porn together.Makes me wish I had a sister to impregnate. Imouto or oneesan, it doesn't matter. Gepard should impregnate Lynx too.
>>497108458Years of cold shrivel the balls
>>497108408It's not bad per se, but rutilant is better. Duran for her is 25% crit damage once enough follow ups happened, but the FU dmg% buff is entirely wasted. Rutilant buffs her biggest damage (basics) with 20% damage and gives 8% crit-rate.If you have really good subs that can definitely be okay in FU teams though.
>>497108408Yeah she's at her worst in PF but still can clear it, meanwhile she shits all over MoC and AS. Crit is irrelevant since we were discussing Super Break, that anon said that Gallagher and Lingsha can do the same as Firefly and thats just not true.
>>497108382Most of her damage is from the EBAJust use Rutilant
>>497107153Этo кoллaб c чeм-тo?
>>497108504play ZZZ incestbwo
>>497108382The extra crit dmg is nice but most of her dmg comes from her basic so the rest of the bonuses offered by the set become kinda reduntanti'd say go for it if you don't have a good taikiyan piece
>>497108220>feminine looking cockI just don't understand this combination of words
>>497108602Tons of cheap merch on AliExpress with any character you want. Why wait for a collab only to get some guy?
I wonned
>>497108379Is that normal behavior? My wife is 28 but still acts like Highschooler
>>497108408>fire weakness is ST only and via techShe does do 50% toughness damage to enemies in the blast without fire weakness. Considering how high her toughness damage is, that can break trash mobs in PF. Not saying that makes her good there, but she can somewhat aoe break while Gallagher and Lingsha are just fucked if there is no fire weakness.
>>497108372>>497108448I hate videogames in general though
>>497108709gratz, you're a snekbro now
>>497108686Пoхoжe нa бpeлoк из ДoДo.
>>497108685>thick girthy veinymasculine cock>thin petite smoothfeminine cock 100% straight to interact with itI bet it would feel good to rub my MANLY cock against one...
>>497108756>Hates video games>Goes to a general to a video game on the video game generals boardActual room temp IQ
>>497108682>>497108557>>497108535Hmm okay. I think I'll work on an RA set eventually then. I need the keel pieces anyhow I guess. I literally never did that domain.
>>497109003>hate VIDEOGAMES in GENERAL>go to videogame generals to talk about itI don't know I think I did good
flat or fat?
>>497109002
>>497109226She and Topaz would've been very cute yuri together, what a shame
>>497109414YWNBAW.
>>497107389I fucked a Topaz anon from here before.
>>497108685feminine cocks are smooth, non-veiny, soft looking cocks that often have a tight foreskin and are pink or light pale in color. often seen on femboys and traps. they can be big or thick too, size doesn't determine the femininity. there are 12 inch feminine cocks out there too.
>>497109486Proof? Evidence??
is it possible to turn my man cock into a feminine penis?
>>497108220link to this QQ poster? for research purposes of course
>Lingsha rollers unfairly get accused of being coomers>groomers raving on about concepts like "feminine" penises though? crickets
why does this general love cocks, boys and NTR so much??
Enough about the feminine penisShow me the manliest pussy NOW
Gros no... We can't fall into the same ERP trap we did in 1.5
If its cute its all good
>>497109727kill yourself analwormer
>>497110015You say this yet you ignore the talk about real life cocks... Curious.
>>497108740>that can breakNo. She has 30 side toughness damage with RM, which means you have 16 ish toughness damage.Trash enemies have between 20 and 30 toughness, 10 is extremely rare. You'd need e6 if you wanted to break 20 toughness guys like that, and 30 would still be impossible.
>>497109761Stelle...
>>497105190>>497106939Is she though?
>>497109761Yanqing...
Damn if 2.6 didnt bring in the new relics, it'd truly be the patch that killed the game.
how much for an hour between Jade's tits?
Lingsha's slow ass banner is killing the game
>>497110512>The other POV
>>497106367>bricksha pullers>metafagspulling for a premium free 4 star sidegrade is pretty sovl
>>497104529Isn't that just Jade?
>literally 0 pulls after feixiao Feels so weird. I haven't even used her yet, but her design and animations are sex.
>>497108379wow…. she’s… literally me
should I pull lingsha if i already have an E6 gallagher?
Is Topass cone a good substitute for Feixiao's cone? I kinda missed it by 10 pulls before the banner end
>>497111103Only worth it if you like her as a character.>>497111121Yeah it works, and it enables meme comps like Ack support Feixiao because of the debuff
>>497111103Do you have E1 Firefly? If yes then go pull Lingsha, if no then just be yourself
>>497104690>BS btfo's the messenger>Every time we check the MoC, BS says "what do you want, honey?"I would cum buckets
>>497111121Well, it's 3rd best cone after her sig and Ratio's. But it's only around 10% better than free options while Ratio's and her sig are 25% better. Still it's quite great cone overall.
>>497111185>>497111197Looks like I'll just wait for her rerun then
>>497105496BUILT FOR
>>497104690I need to see both btfo of each other like ASAP in a very sexy way preferably
>>497111295Borisin knot.
>>497110274Oh yeah, you're right. Was just thinking of toughness damage on main target, forgot the blast deals half of that.
>Most women are capable of secreting considerably more milk than needed by a single infant. The regulation of milk synthesis is quite efficient (around 800 mL/day).>The normal daily production of saliva varies between 0.5 and 1.5 liters. The whole unstimulated saliva flow rate is approximately 0.3-0.4 ml / min. This rate decreases to 0.1 ml / min during sleep and increases to about 4, 0-5, 0 ml / min during eating, chewing and other stimulating activities.>Daily loss in sweat is about 400 ml for an adult. The heat loss can be quite significant because there is a loss of 0.58 kcal for every ml of water evaporated. The maximum rate of sweating is up to 50 ml/min or 2000 ml/hr in an acclimatized adult. On average however - only 1L per day, and, due to its fast evaporation and most of it disappearing - therefore:>800ml of mammary milk + 1L average of saliva and + 50 ml/min or 2000 ml/hr during intense physical exercise = 2800mL average, assuming Bosenmori Mei is sweating for 30 minutes for any reason...>Water consumption minimum: About 15.5 cups (3.7 liters) of fluids a day for men >3700mL - 2800mL = 900mL of unsatisfied thirst>Bosenmori Mei has 2 bodies >>> 2800mL * 2 = 5600mL (average)>non-pregnant and 1 sex per day having Bosenmori Mei is capable of satisfying daily thirst of 1.5 Caeluses!!
Hmmm, sex.
>>497111542>added highlights to eyes for no good reasonRuined.
>>497111542> Why is your pussy shielded? Uh oh the shield just refreshed after 7 attempts, darling
>>497111542what could've been......
How long is the wardance quest? I got finished with penacony and it was quite lengthy I hope this one isn't
>>497111697>not kuudere0 points
>>497111737it's pretty long, ~6 hours
>>497110978Since when was Jane associated with feet fetishism
Fox
>>497111542beloved Emilie……
post lingchud builds. whoever has the best will be the brick king
>>497108275Based Gepard honey trapping us into paying child support
I pull too randomly so my roster is a mess. Who and what should I aim for? I really want Topaz but idk if she will fit in with my current roster... please advice, /hsrg/I'm currently working on getting Gepard to 80 and equipped because I want to use him in SU higher difficulties. Also Herta for PF, and Sampo for fun to run 3 DoT chars
Reminder that time Aventurine overdosed on harmony drugs and went on a schizophrenic adventure with a constantly degrading mental state for 6 hours straight? Good times. Really funny in hindsight.
>>497112140>skipped robin but got e2 kafka and e1 bswhy>got pink fox with no acheronwhy>e1 luochalmao
>>497112140gery nice DoT hag squad feat. Ruan Gyatt Mei
>>497112253I got Kafka at initial release then got another copy for each re-run. Black Swan at release then 1 copy at re-run. I plan to get Acheron that's why I pulled him... tried to plan ahead. E1 Luocha because I got double in a 10 pull at release
>>497112246Yup and it was kino.
>if you want crit rate you have to roll limited conesFu Xuan is the only support that gives crit rate isnt she?
E1 Luocha is kingly
>>497112140Acheron is probably the safest bet because you can run her with either JQ or DoThags. Sunday could be good for you hypercarries too depending on what his actual kit is.
>>497112480That's why people are saying to just build 100% crit rate these days instead of 1:2 ratio because crit damage buffs are easy to get.
>>497112480Sunday will buff crit.
>>497112480Fu Xuan + S1 Yunli and/or S1 Feixiao is really comfy and gets them to nearly 100% CR. Especially for Yunli because Fu absorbs damage for her and doesn't take agro.Haven't gotten Lingsha yet (haven't unlocked new weekly boss) so I can't comment on her compared to fuxBut generally yeah, post 2.0, if you've been playing since launch and are still not pulling cones for crit DPS you're doing something wrong.
>>497112759nobody is gonna roll for a worm, retard.
>>497112246I’m an avid video game enjoyer who plays all content, reads all story text, flavor text etc. But admittedly, the Advenschizo arc pushed me to the brink and made me do a little bit of heavy sigh button mashing.Truly a definitively interactive experience of losing the marbles!
>>497112882I am. I will.
>>497109226He's was malnourished, he'd be flat of he was a girl.
>>497107471>TB is even freeSo what's gonna happen when Rememberance TB gigashills summons anyway.
>>497112860I dont roll for cones because Im practically f2p and also becuase last time I ddi I got a Yanqing cone at roll 70. My account was bricked for a while.
>>497112882Dan Heng has been worming your account from the very beginning.
>>497112976But now she could buy herself some implants.
>>497111962Top 5 sexiest
>>497111697Why did her personality change? It *is* better though.
Boyfriend when?
>>497113027we will finally be freed from super brickgolden days coming soon
>>497112140Account doesn't look that bad. You have the full dot team, so that is good. You also have the making of a Yunli team with Sparkle and Fofo, but it lacks a decent 3rd slot. Robin would have been good, but that banner is gone now. Topaz is good for Yunli, but probably only worth it if you have Robin already. So you're stuck using Sparkle+Tingyun for Yunli, which would work okay when there is shilling. Honestly, surprised you didn't roll Robin because you have a raised Ratio and Yunli. Since you have dot, JQ and SW, rolling Acheron would be good. You can also pull Firefly for super break team, JQ is only a slight downgrade for dot so that frees up RM. Acheron+Firefly+Dot would probably carry you until the 3.0 meta goes full shilling. > I really want TopazKinda works with Ratio and Yunli, but she really benefits from Robin. If you like her then get her, but her big thing is many hits with numby which is why Robin is that good for her.>I'm currently working on getting Gepard to 80 and equipped because I want to use him in SU higher difficultiesIf just for SU, think you can just go full speed on him instead of farming a dedicated set. Blessings go crazy, so the 4p shield strength is not required there. Just try him with preservation path, SU in general are more about blessings and less about having well equipped characters.>Also Herta for PF, and Sampo for fun to run 3 DoT charsDefinitely raise Herta, you should have done that ages ago since she is crazy for PF. I'm a Samposhill, but he is probably the least important of what you mentioned. You already have JQ for that slot in dot, so he only really is decent for wind super break teams. But would instead raise Gallagher first for that team and for Acheron.
A reminder that Summons can be targeted by mobs so Aventurine is now a must-have since he can protect them to build faster stacks and Lingsha stays as an even bigger brick.
If the game is doing so well, how comes there are no Yunli doujins yet?
>>497113467but can summons be shielded?
>>497113027You still will need to roll for completely new team?
>>497112480
I think my Feixiao is looking pretty good stat wise don't you think
>>497113670>112 speed
>>497113670SLOWxiao
>>497113670lose some wait
>>497113670200 crit rate is pointless since she gets inner 40% so you should have something like picrel instead.
I tried going on /gig/ today after years because /hsrg/ is so slow but that was the worst mistake I've made all week
i bet feixiao would be the type of girl to wake you up with a blowjob under the sheets
i've been eatng nothing but crepes these past few dayshonkai star rail i loveeeeeee miss Sparkle
It's sad that sustains can't just be that anymore. They HAVE to do damage in some way, or heavily facilitate as much DPS as possible.
>>497113921HSRG is slow exactly because of how GIG is
Hmm I am bored, any good anime lately?Honkai star rail
>>497113921yeah what the fuck happened...
>>497114196Wolf and Spice remake
>determined to finally wake up early today>go to bed by 3 am>woken up by my phone alarm, it's 6 am>cool>it's raining outside, not as much as a storm but still a lot>starts to feel pretty comfy>"This opportunity is hard to come by. Let's take a quick nap">wakes up at noonfuckHonkai star rail
>>497114196Do you like JP Lingsha? Watch 2.5D Ririsa, it's about cosplay and anime cons.If you're into romance try MakeIne or RussiaDere from last season as well.The current season is pretty dead honestlydesu
WItch Herta when?honkai star rail
>>497114423neetbro...
>>497114423>wake up early today >go to bed by 3 am no fucking wonder you overslept
>>497113403bro I really appreciate that you took the time. I think I'll continue to save for Acheron... how important is her eidolons and signature cone with my current roster? I know her E2 is considered really good, but I'm always going to run her in a team with 2 Nihility chars anyway, so I'm not sure if it's worth. I was thinking of going after signature cone instead of copies
>>497114508keep calm and save for Herta
>>497113921/gig/ is the shit filter that keeps us safe...
>>497104529God damn, I miss my Yelan. I miss staring at her tight ass every time I would sprint with her.But it's hard to go back after 3 years of the devs spitting on your face. Pretty interesting that Inazuma was the peak of the game, and Yelan the swan song patch to finish the region off.And to answer your question, maybe Topaz could be considered an "expy"? Her real name is Jelena, and was from a poor Space Not!Eastern Europe planet. Yelan could also be from Snezhnaya as well. But her Femme Fatale could not be replicated, which is missing from this roster currently (Maybe Kafka?)I hope we get a Dehya expy as well when we go to that Abundance planet.>>497104659>Yelan enjoyer is also a DoThag enjoyerBASED
>>497114148the fate of every dps check game
>>497114196Isekai shows are peak no matter what season.Honkai Star Rail
>>497111824Oh fuck but I gotta do it because it gives March 7 the hunt right?
>>497115021I miss Dehya and Beidou
>>497111528Based.
>>497113403>You also have the making of a Yunli team with Sparkle and Fofo, but it lacks a decent 3rd slottingyun???do you even play yunli or are you going off of some meme tierlist?
mom sexhonkai star rail
Mom shall be boyfriend, should have made me prettier
>>497115241>Yunli hypercarryEww.
>>497115230fatty
>>497115153she unlocks from the story and eidolons are from the event but event is permanentso you'd basically lose just jades and whatever resources
>>497115153There's no rush cause it's permanent.Only the 2nd half of the Wardance event has limited rewards.Hunt March is good in FUA and Break teams, so you could go for it if you need some extra firepower.
i regret skipping Yunli after having come back from a very long break during her patch
2 months of nothing to farm for, good work mihoyo. Literally didnt need to farm for Feixiao because I had Firefly and If I roll rappa same shit. So stupid of them.
I confess... I gooned to bbc-slop this morning
>>497115557I haven't rolled since acheronnobody cares bro, you do you or play a different game
BIG BAD CAELUS!
Soemone got the Jade Chibi from stream?onegai.
>>497115731I only have this one.
>>497114976Elaina...
>>497115707Birds are born with no shacklesThen, what fetters my fate?Blown away, the white petalsLeave me trapped in the cageThe endless isolationCan't wear down my illusionSomeday, I'll make a dream unchainedLet my heart bravely spread the wingsSoaring past the nightTo trace the bright moonlightLet the clouds heal me of the stingsGently wipe the sorrow off my lifeI dream
>>497115815Holy Hot damn Mother!!!!!!!
>>497115241>So you're stuck using Sparkle+Tingyun for YunliThat was only 3 sentences later, at least read my post if you are going to call me retarded. But while Tingyun is decent, Robin is way stronger especially if you also use Topaz and already have Fofo.>>497114864>how important is her eidolons and signature cone with my current rosterSig is a pretty big upgrade, way bigger increase in damage than the sig of other dps characters. Think she can work at E0S0 since you also have JQ, but cone is just that good. I never pulled for cones, but Acheron broke that. So I would go for that.>I know her E2 is considered really goodSince you already have Sparkle and JQ, think that is her best team. But that is just more power for an already strong character, and you will be sacrificing 2 new characters for that. I haven't had problems with her at E0S1, and I don't even have JQ. E2 just makes her more bruteforcible. But with 3.0 coming soon that might change the meta completely, so I would save the pulls. I also personally don't like E2, since Acheron needing 2 nihilities is unique and that eidolon just turns her into a generic hypercarry setup. But that is personal opinion.
>>497115840soon
>>497115887they should make Citlali for (You) but knowing Genshart they'll just shipbait her with Ororon...
>>497115668March won
>>497115815thanks mane
>>497116154Firefly is not for (You). Firefly is for Caelus, you're just watching them go on dates through your monitor.
>>497116245March 7th final form of Remembrance canon sex scene with literally me…. we await the day
>>497115593No... how could you..? Don't you know once you do it there is no coming back? You're going to get addicted no matter how many times you tell yourself you won't.
>>497113269My beautiful entropy down syndrome wife
>>497116245TB doesn't need his own room on the Astral Express cause he sleeps with March
>>497116154Last time I heard a girl was for (you) in genshin she was the biggest flop in recent memory
>>497116154Cliteroli is just some drunk hagIf they wanted to make someone for (You) it'd have to be Mualani but Kachina is more likeable
>>497116286damn could it be?? even firefly herself was cuckbait all along???
>>497116303That's a huge cap, I can quit the jewslop porn anytime I want and just goon to Pela
>Seele calls me Daddy, too
>>497116397die modbeast
>>497116392It's not... you're gone to us now. You might not revisit it this week but you'll go back, nothing will satisfy you now but black dicks.
>>497116335Who even? Ayaka? She was mildly successful iirc, she's just not used anymore because of >cryo but she was otherwise the topdog for months.
>>497116397Swollka wouldn’t have jobbed
>>497116502Mualani
>>497116469>modbeastHonkai Star Rail is a better game than Final Fantasy 14.
So, did you end up getting Lingsha?
>>497116521But Mualani is shipped with Kinich...
>>497116521She's supposed to ge for (you) girl? All art I see is shipshit with minecraft guy
>>497116590>E0 Fireflylol no. Maybe on rerun
>>497115976if you're going to pretend that tingyun is just some "decent" filler i'm not gonna bother reading the rest of the post, cope :^)
>>497116603>>497116604I dont play genshin but when she came out I remember them coming here to spam that and compare her to firefly
>>497105190Probably Pela yes, Lingsha is close for being an elf in a generic chink dress. Jade is hot, but I can see why people /here/ would point at her, she is a pretty conservative hot dominating woman design without any unique gimmick.
HSR needs the furry audience
>>497116590Yes, just went all out on break and got e1s1
>>497116590E1S1, my Firefly demanded it.
nobody is for (you) in genshin. tabibito likes to watch.in star rail, girls are for (you), therefore you [the player] like to watch
>>497116590No because that CUNT had to play hard to get and gave me Clara instead
>>497116696Tits unironically too big.
>>497116696Dawei has no balls to make a femfurry playable
>>497116590My E6S1 (Lingsha LC) Gallagher with my E2S1 Firefly is more than enough.
>>497115307that's a big penis...
>>497116696Thats a cute looking girl but I fear theres a possible slippery slope there
>>497116590How good is her cone compared to the cope options?
>>497116802
>>497116796she's already planned bwi
>>497116796She's already leaked as a future playable character
>>497116521Ain't she for that green fag?
>>497116696Tits genuinely too big, looks modded
fofabros beat up the gallhomos right now
>>497116894>>497116871No way...Picked up!
>>497116909t. Homo
I woke up to a spider in my bed and the first thing I thought of was how that would've scared the bejeezus out of FofoAm I cooked?
>>497116894in terms of height is she burnice sized or caesar sized? kinda hard to tell from the portrait
>>497117114Fofo isn't Christian, dude.
>>497116590Yes. My Rappa will appreciate her for quite a bit.
>>497116696Boobs to small>t.Not a faggot
I see people say that when in enhanced mode Firrefly can act 3 times, but that's with E2 right?
post some HUGE honkersRIGHT NOW!
>>497117230she is so sex but she has no fucking ASS!!!!!
I still rolled for Lingsha despite the brick status. Homos and metakeks will never understand.
>>497117249no?You just need 155+ SPD on your stats page with Ruan Mei
>>497117230looking forward to the rappa+lingsha combo btfoing any img or fire PF without even trying, and everyone who skipped coping the duck out of it
>>497117246
>>497116868BiS for Superbreak. Outside of Supebreak, Luochudcone or S5 Post-OP can be fine.
>>497117365>btfoing any img or fire PF without even tryingBut my firefly + HMC combo already does that thougheverbeitly?
>>497117294check out these awesome boobs
So was Lingsha a brick or not
>>497117492good luck doing that when break isn't being shilled and with twice the numbers of enemies
I'm playing through china and I don't understand what's going on.
>>497117506she gots me bricked up ya feel me?
>>497109564No, i wish.Imagine having a big manly cock to threaten all females in sight.
>>497117506>>497117638Yea
We need a Succubus character so bad
>>497117628don't worry, the only thing that matters in terms of plot is a CG at the very end, everything else is just an insipid shill campaign for Yanqing (lol??) and Feixiao that won't have any lasting effect on the main plot
We WON
>>497117348I've got 200 without Ruan Mei in combustion mode and she's got only 2 turns
>>497116696Bruh HSR can't even deliver on aliens in a space fantasy setting. Furries would be a never-ever.
lingsha’s a brick but she’s GYATT’ed up so she’s alright
>>497117821man genshin and zzz are flopping bad
Where gro asking if >Are we pulling X did he have his (You) quota today?
>>497117845>never-everThey keep flirting with it.
>>497117590>when break isn't being shilledNever going to happen lmao. HSR is a break effect game now
Is my Firefly good enough to join the Firefly guild?
>>497116474>thinking about black dicksBwo... Now that it crossed your mind there's no going back...
brick effect will be SCRAPPED for all 3.x
>>497117845I assume pic related is what you call 'delivering on aliens'?Just giving humans a different skin color is equally lazy, bwo.
>>497117841On the character menu stats page, not on the battle stats page
>>497117294Name dropped
>>497117998>Just giving humans a different skin color is equally lazy, bwo.Exactly. And they haven't even done that once. Says a lot.
>>497117768Soon. On the Remembrance planet.
>>497117821Isnt Caesar mega for (you)
Good morning bwos
>>497116590lost 50/50 to himeko
>>497117374I think even in super break Luocha cone is no worse, due to not needing ER Rope, and giving you faster ults than if she had her sig cone + ER rope. It's crazy.You miss the 18% dmg amp for 2 turns on her ult, but in exchange ult ~50% more often.Her sig is really underpowered without any energy on it.
>>497118058>https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=FaxI5oNATLEYes, pay attention to the guy's hair.
>>497118043The point was that a different skin color is as lazy as giving people animal ears or horns which they have done.
we need more monster girls
>>497118179Why is she flopping harder than every other character
>>497116696disgusting
>>497118085Morning bwo
>>497118058zzz has less players than genshit that's it.
>>497117983>
>>497118240Because zoomers are allergic to pressing buttons.
>>497118001but it says 150+ is for 4 actions and that 3 is the base
genkek here, we're finally getting autobattles, now we'll be the best game again!
>>497118179holy shit this song is badIsn't ZZZ all about music? SHouldn't they of all people put effort into the music?
>>497118302bitch swan!
>after Robin drained me dry and left me with barely any jades Lingsha came super earlyI will now help repopulate the dragon people
>>497118302Blacked Swan...
>>497105190sushang
>>497117818I'm playing through the 1st china section and dan heng just parted the seas like chinese moses. Is notchina always this rough? Swear they have like 5 different terms for the same thing.
>>497118302I showed you my ass now we need to go to McDonalds
>>497118406COCKA!
Elio could've been our Elaina (true) btwPlot relevant, blue eyes and white hair.But they just had to waste it on a fucking maleI know you're reading this, John Hoyoverse.Turn Elio into a girl, preferably a hebe.Please, you turned SAM into a cute girl before so surely you can do this tooI will e6s5 if Elio turns into a cute girl.
>>497118305I don't mind pressing buttons in actually good games. ZZZ is 4/10 game with gacha on top of it.
>>497118240because the honeymoon phase is over
>>497118179So, why are waifutroons not rolling her?
>>497107306>now try using DPS without their supportYou're retarded
Can't wait for Rappa
What set should I put on Lingsha for my Firefly team?
>>497118406uh oh someone got filtered
I gave ZZZ a shot, but burning resin everyday got too tedious. Also, the increasing amount of endgame that was just two boss enemies spamming attacks on you nonstop, so you just endlessly parry, and don't actually get to play the characters was terrible.
>>497118519I remember being extremely confused at that part of the story when I played it back in february because the explanation of what happened is in obscure readable only fujos bothered to read.
>>497118527>you turned SAM into a cute girl before soSAM was always a cute girl, Firefly has been in the game's files and paired with SAM since the beginning.
>>497118615Superbreak set ofc.
>>497118527That's too bad. I thought Elio is an asshole like Elaina who would unironically leave a city in the face of annihilation.
>>497118527Elio is a female but she looks like in your pic and is voiced by Romi Paku. You rolling?
Constance looks like she was designed by kakage
>>497118578ZZZ is extremely f2p friendly so there's no need to whale...also most people play on PC
>>497104403Love me Kafka
what is this type of luck called
>>497118595you realize HMC turns every break character into a DPS right? Lingsha is a DPS according to you, since she gets enabled by HMC
>>497118208>EN
>>497118648>resinWhy is it always gigger niggers?
>>497118615Same relic sets as Firefly if you can hit 151 speed (including RM buff), or 2pc Messenger 2pc Iron Cavalry if you can't.
>>497118387Here anonhttps://arch.b4k.co/vg/thread/481080448/#481080541or use thishttps://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/e/2PACX-1vRsm60jYo8MdHWimjvY42wE8-j-0NBwG9-KutpNcQbylhhBiKBpGmUm1x3CXExthl2EB438RdMWdeT3/pubhtml#
>>497118787It's the Fofo poster from /gig/.
>>497118015>Adventures
>>497118648You are not allowed to dislike the game goym, install again and pay more :^)
>>497118706>>497118801So 4 iron cavalry? I was thinking going iron cavalry + watchmaker for the extra BE
>>497118240cuz hoyo players cycle through the 3 games and there just isn't any new blood anymore. HSR is the best one (and most tolerable to play longterm) so people just stick with it.
>>497118785Now that's some stupid fucking logic you got there.You have to be retarded if you think Lingsha is anywhere as efficient as Firefly at killing enemies.
what's up, gang
>>497118387Oh also, you're probably thinking that she only take 2 action because there's only 2 picture of her in the action barJust keep playing and count how many time she took action before exiting the complete combustion state
>>497116590i didmy current build is pretty cope (optimizer scoring for supports is garbo btw)40ked pf but still failed to 0 cycle the easy moc side with e0 fraudfly kek, fuck this piece of shit archetype is awful ..i'll try again with higher traces
>>497118734Nyo, Shirokami long only.>>497118708He ordered his goons to destroy planets for stellarons so I think he's qualified to be an genuine asshole
>>497118578Not every hoyokek game is gonna be a genshin or hsr. Release revenue was heavily inflated by the brand name, so it's probably gonna keep dropping unless they turn things around like early hsr
>>497119017Where the hell is your BE?
>>497118615>>497118943Messenger, or Watchmaker if you want more BE instead.She still won't be doing significantly higher damage even with Cavalry, might as well make her a support that can help the whole team.
>>497119017only 100 break effeck....
>>497118761People don't actually believe this right?
>>497118812>>497118989Oh okay I get it now, thanks for taking the time anons.
>So fucking bland and uninteresting that waifufags and chinks don't roll for herWhat went wrong?
Why the fuck does space China have more story than the rest of the game put together? This shit is so fucking tiresome at this point, I lost track of who's who in this bullshit, and it's STILL not fucking over. What was even the point of Feixiao's entire story? Just to show some fuckass antagonist that comes out of nowhere and does fucking nothing? Why are we still supposed to give a shit?
>>497119205It's just your typical flop cone. Same as "the majority of the revenue comes from pc" and such.
>>497118761>also most people play on PClol
>>497115630I do, but whats the point of me opening up star rail if I make zero progress. They've got their heads up their asses and losing relevance fast, its sad how they let it get to their heads that they are too big to fail.
>>497119240I rolled for her because I needed a second Gallagher. Frankly, I don't even know who she is.
>>497119280What anime is this?
>>497118761What's this wuwa ass tier cope
>>497118761whales dont whale simply for power, tey hwale because its an outlet for their gambling addiction,
>>497119294*Cope
even though genshin gives zero pulls, its the most f2p friendly because half of the characters they release are dogshit, and another large percentage are ugly/lame design. There's only a couple characters to roll for each year.
>do a quick farm to get Lingsha boots>accidentally get a god piece for FireflyHoly
Bailu rape
>>497119407Gushing over magical girlIt's great
>>497119280>look how cool our latest mary sue general is!
>>497119357Your supports and DPS are already 160 SPD with great CR/CD/ATK/BE/relevant stats yet?There's always some room to improve.
>>497119150>>497119192she's close to 250 in combat
>>497119240We already talked about why Caesar is a flop lol
>>497119484the only character I would ever roll for is Furina
>>497118527elio should be an allan poe expy methinks
How likely is it for 2.* carry units (Acheron, Firefly, Feixiao) to be powercrept by 3.* carry units? Like how 1.* carry units are rarely used in 2.*.Did Genshin have a pattern like this?
>>497119280>Why the fuck does space China have more story than the rest of the game put together?I also wonder why a Chinese game has so much Chinese pandering.
>>497119581your pagfly will be irrelevantacheron is already powercrept
is my Reisa fine?
>>497119660But I'm a new player, my only limited carry is Feixiao.
>>497119663She's fine piece of ass, yes
>>497118578They goonerbaited too hard and scared off the husbando trannies that hate fanservice, while simultaneously not going in on it hard enough to pull in the waifufag audience because they still included males. Companies need to learn from LaDS and focus on pandering to one audience, instead of trying to make mixedslop that appeals to nobody.
>>497116590Yeah. I could stand to improve her two average relics but she's already doing pretty well with my FF.
>>497119581We just don't know. I think it's a lot more likely they're going to peddle a new mechanic and if you don't have units that work with it you'll struggle, but 2.x characters won't necessarily get weaker, there'll just be less shill content for them. Not for Superbreak though, Stingyun will only come out right before 3.0. I think Jingliu and DHIL are unironically still good and will probably get better supports and more content that works for them. Seele and EL GENERALISSIMO were bad from the start and people just refused to see it. What you should be looking at is not Genshin but Honkai 3rd where there's actually not that much direct powercreep but a lot of mechanical and type compatibility blocks.
>>497119869jing sneed has terrible scaling and downtime in her kit, dhil has a much higher chance of still being a viable carry
Why is she so autistic?
>>497119535my IQ isnt low so I dont chase for pointless upgrades. I 3* all the content already and can for the next few patches. Thats all that matters.
>>497119505Oh yeah I read the mang a long time ago and forgot about it. gonna watch
>>497119862>E1>S1lol lmaoimagine getting tricked into wasting jades on a brick like that
>>497116590e6 gallaGOD CLEARS
Rappa had a hard life
>>497119650It's shit pandering then. Luofu is a boring fucking place, a huge shipyard that feels like nothing, painted in boring grey colors. Compare it to something like pic related. That's what Chinese pandering should look like. Not a bunch of boring fucking warehouses.
>>497120073She's kinda cute ngl
>>497119280Best part is that we spent a third of our time in the fucking cargo docks, the least interesting place imaginable.
>>497119581There was no real patern in that game. Genkek devs liked to play favorites. They randomly make highly anticipated characters absolute dogshit that's way worse than existing options and some literal whos like lord pagzuha that get to stay at the top of the meta for yearsHonkai star rail
>>497094053>>497094769
>>497120325genshit flopped thoughever
>>497120476Aieeeeeee
>dykle
>>497120325Lantern rite was so fucking boring, all we did was help some fucking randos that we never met again. Even the streets were fucking empty.I prefer space china to not china.
>>497120282a life of starvation...
>>497120141>oh I got nothing to do>how about you do this?>no I'm too lazy to do thatJust play other games, do your other hobbies.Whatever, I don't care.
>>497119280Mandate of Heaven backed by the CCP,, with the funniest part being that even their own domestic audience hates China slop, if they ever release Fu Hua, it's going to be the China character release that will have the least to do with China to maximize sales
>>497120476>THE RUAN MEI RABI HAS HIT /HSRG/I REPEAT >THE RUAN MEI RABI HAS HIT /HSRG/
>>497120539you stupid bitch
>>497120548>that single lantern slowly moving in the gameplay partLmao
>>497119280Surely they get some feedback about it. How did CN receive space china?
>>497120476
>>497120548We're talking about aesthetics, not gameplay.>all we did was help some fucking randos that we never met againThis stopped being a thing years ago, by the way, after everyone complained for the first two years. Now, almost every event in Genshin shoehorns at least some playable characters,
Nano!
Topaz is too much man.. and add Numby on top of that and she's almost making me roll
>>497120678Don't call Feixiao a bitch. She's doesn't like it
>>497119581it's gachashit so everything will get powercrept to some degree. there are also many methods of shilling which make the newer characters shine more despite them not always being "better" in a non-tailored scenarios>usedpopularity (or worse, fucking usage rate meme) does not directly correlate with strength>Did Genshin have a pattern like this?yesno idea how it looks like now, but that game was extremely easy and the shilling was less intensive so it just didn't fucking matter that team comps objectively get stronger with newer options, you could easily shit on "endgame" content with literal memes (either just shit teams or otherwise gimped setups like duos instead of 4mans etc) so people didn't perceive the powercreepbut one does not have to look very far, klee->hu tao and venti(archon btw kek)->kazuha happened before version 2.0
>>497120476You call that a Rabi?
>>497120828We don't like her so it's okay
>>497120891I call THAT Ruan Doromori Mei.
JK Jelena
>>497119869I hope they add Mono element boss fights that are immune to other elements and weakness implant to shill mono teams.
>>497120476Ruan Banjomorabi Mei
>>497120785She's too hot. Using her to walk around will make you wanna masturbate uncontrollably at all times.
I wasn't able to 0 cycle with E6 Gallagher...
>>497121049>0 cycleMental illness that you don't even have ingame leaderboards to brag about with
wtf I got 5 in one 10 pull, who is this for?
Aventurine should've been kicked out from the ten stoneheartsHis risky behavior and penchant for gambles are not suitable for businessI don't know why he's still in the IPC at allJust kick that eyesore out already
>>4971211350 cycles are important since you can use your soul team on the other side
>>497121203sugga...
>>497121049but you have e2 fraudfly retardbro, what the fuck were you even doing?even with a dogshit setup as long as you hold galla ult and use it at the start of wave2 you'll literally always 0 cycle
>>497121165Looks like a bootleg cope cone for Boothill.
>>497121165wormhill brick effect march or super brick sushang
>>497121049https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rxpQUGf2VJIE0S0 could already 0c bro, how are you struggling with a E2S1 Firefly?
>>497121203Sugilite you're still on work hours
>>497121049>E2>can't 0-cycleLooks like a player issue to me and not a Gallagher issue
>>497118240She's not doing bad compared to the previous banners
>>497119017which site is this
>>497121203Black hands hyped this
>>497104403>FeixiaoFiles>Feixiao0910>FeixiaoGenerallmao
>>497120782Stupid sexy March. She's going to be teen mom if she keep that up
>>497121049>Stellepagnot surprising
>>497120391>There was no real patern in that game>>497120876>yesThe duality of Genshin.
>>497120548the first betrayal...
Is Lingsha BiS for firefly?
>>497121486fribbels optimizer
>>497121728Sure, but you'd rather have E1 Firefly
>>497104403>FeixiaoFiles>Feixiao0910>FeixiaoGeneral
>he skipped
>>497120616>pointless grinding Are you unable to understand the meaning of "pointless"?
>>497121728If you're a whale simp and have E1 yes,if you're a Pagfly no, she uses too much SP and you need wormagher to keep the team's SP afloat
Good morning everyone, hope you're having a wonderful time. Have a blessed day.
>>497104403add this code to the OPlingshaquiz
I love the cycrane smell
>>497122023
>>497121906I already have like 10 other color swaps of the same character.
>>497119280Believe me, they know people do not like itEven Chinese dunk on it universally, and they're the main audience of those partsThe whole faction is dumb from the ground up, makes it very hard to care about them in a positive light
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nhwufI_lNRo
>>497122163Cheers, pagpagbro
>>497121887>>497121970>>497122117>>497122163All these posts are by the same person
>>497122137the faction is fine it's just a toxic combination of too much background info, not enough onscreen progression and writers being unable to give any kind of texture to space chyna charactersthe idea to run a B story about aeon wars in parallel to primary trailblaze plot is actually good it's just... chyna
I wish they would tell me which of my supports are being used the most often so I know who to replace.
>>497121906I already have Sushang. I don't need another one.
>>497122023Lingsha you forgot your glasses again
>>497122012U2 QQ
Why is she like this
I legitimately have no idea what Lingsha's personality is supposed to be
>>497122294After space greece I want 2 patches of race war with my wife.
>>497122289not the 2nd one
>>497122397She can see now
>>497122294Nah, the whole lore of the faction is kinda ass, and makes them supremely unrelatable and unlikable
>>497122615>the boy who sniffed
>>497122397>>497122615Why does she look better with glasses?
https://x.com/kinocands/status/1842169879824343164
>>497122543the reliable secretary..
>>497122675I can confidently say that that's a man
For Feixiao what's better?>127 SPD, 101% CR 110% CD>134 SPD 95% CR 140% CD>145 SPD 92%CR 144% CD
>>497122543Passive aggressiveness
>>497122543The only woman who has her shit together and is seconds away from strangling the nearest incompetent intern (which would be (you))
>>4971229743rd one, Easily. You have a bunch of Crit DMG from Robin, so your Crit Ratio would be perfect.
>>497122974Third one due to extra SPD and almost the same stats as the second one.Though if you have a good chunk of extra ATK on the second one this might change, otherwise, 3rd option.
>>497122289>3(you)s
>>497122543Sexually frustrated OL Christmas Cake
>>497122289No need to reply to yourself, Hertaschizo.
>>497120548man. people love to forget this game needs to run on phones, there is no way it was ever going to look and be as populated as that.its like people getting all upset about neverness to everness and saying that the devs were lying about the game since it doesnt match the trailers; bitch like there was no fucking way they were going to make a fully-fledged GTA gacha game on phones filled with attackable pedestrians everywhere and wanted levels and fully explorable buildings and shit. you'd get like 2 fps even on an iphone 16.
>>497110978I don't dislike Jade, but in what world wouldn't the HSR one not be Kafka? It's crazy how random the Jade pick is as long as Kafka exists. Kafka is like if the other two did a fucking fusion dance with extra mind control powers on top.
place your bets
How would Sunday react if Robin turned into a bird
/gig/ is currently having one of their worst threads yet
>>497123562are there high quality pics of the aventurine bird next to her?
>>4971234876 SPD5.1 Crit rate11 crit damage7.7 EFF res
>>497123562AAAAIIIIEEEE NOT THE CHARMONY PIGEON
>>497122294The faction will always be shit. They're simultaneously le most glorious, righteous and powerful while also being the cool underdogs. The people are simultaneously the extremely competent, powerful and superior long life species that look down on all the space gweilos while also being le burdened with the curse of eternal life (they can still die tho) and you should feel bad for them. They genocide abundancekeks indiscriminately and instead of using that to give the faction any kind of depth, they just make all the abundance followers comically evil baddies whose only purpose in life and the story is to oppose glorious space china, dragging down another faction with them
>>497123562That's a big Firefly in the back
Kinda fell off leaks and stuff, are there currently any characters to look forward to at all past space china?
>>497123624
>>497123731No it isn't lol >>497123763Thanks frend
>>497123746herta
>>497123632not terrible
stream is next week, right? and we're ging back to Penacony?
OKAYFUCK YOU TOO
>>497123746Tingyun(more chink slop unfortunately) and sunday
>>497123618>/v/GOD is there
>>497123746Space greece/rome with summon stuff (Probably)
>>497123731It's an Aventurine bird actually.
>>497123849Yeah but the only character we will see it's Rappa, Robin and Boothill (aka filler)
>>497123892Wtf they got a picture of me on the right without my permission
>>497123848Great Jingloo piece
>caeluspag
Here's some firebirds for Fireflyfren
>Amphoreus is a mistranslation, it's actually Omphalos>Omphalos, "the Navel of the World", basically center of the world but in Greek>you thought it was Athens but it was Mount Meru all along! Oops, have some Buddhism instead
>>497123796>>497123892Is that big ass bird bigger than the lil sigga plushie?
>>497123994yep
>StelleTranny
>IS THAT TRANNYTURINE UHHH IM GONNA
>>497123618Thank you toilet watchdog
>>497123970don't let out /hig/xisters see this..
>>497123970>>497124102/hig/cord raid
>Bring Clara to fight V5 Argenti>She gets one shotHuoHuo let me down again...
>>497124054>pag humor>>497124113>tran humor
>>497124106Sure looks like it.
>>497124106Definitely
https://twitter.com/gosari542/status/1842147542966177890
Is the banana set better than Duran for Topaz?
>>497123970Kiana is guillotine-tight I'm 100% sure
>>497124348No
>>497124348For Solo potential, yes. For Dual DPS teams, a meager increase.
g-gomen nasai!
Aside from the Stellaron Hunters, the Astral Express, and Herta, who else knows that (You) have a Stellaron inside of you?
Psst. If you're running Lingsha with Ruan Mei and HTB then the outgoing healing boost from break effect is generally already capped before her light cone and relics enter the equation. You can freely invest in ATK instead for the purposes of healing.Without external buffs if you are using Lingsha as a healer be careful to not exceed 100% additional break effect from substats, rope and light cone or the additional break effect will have no benefit to her efficacy. Break effect does have a higher return per percentage than ATK% and is granted in higher percentages in relics, but the hard cap of 200% break effect provides a cut-off point to it's investment and ATK does not have a cap while only scaling slightly less.
>>497124572Aventurine
>>497124572Pretty much everyone on Penacony because Aventurine keeps calling you Miss Stellaron and others must have caught it. If Aventurine talked to others, then at least Topaz and Jade as well.
>>497124595You'd want to stack as much BE as possible for Superbreak Lingsha anyways.Stacking ATK is only for Critsha, so far.
I have Feixiao E0S1 and I haven't used her a single time I don't know why I even pulled for her
>>497124721It is true that investing in Lingsha's healing beyond an outgoing healing% chest is probably overkill due to the sheer frequency of heal procs but I like to fuck with numbers...
>>497124572>>497124680>Literal Warp aids, bane of all existence as claimed in lore>>Nobody gives a shit it walks beside them in the game.
>>497123618They are probably just afraid that the game's revenue went down and suddenly the new region can have female characters that show skin again, so they do what they do best and NOT put their money where they mouth is, but get louder to appear like they are a significant audience.
>>497124806>and I haven't used her a single timeNot even Apocalyptic shadow?
>>497124572LuoGOD does
>>497124854Brosis have you considered we're le special(But also fucking useless lmao)?
>>497124572Acheron Aventurine Dan shu if you blabber about it
>>497124595if I'm using Lingsher with RM and HMC then it means I'm running superbreak, and if I'm not I need the BE to max the passive, in both cases it's better to focus on BE as much as possible so basically your retarded
>>497124934What did Elio mean by this?
Still no Ration rerun is honestly so fucking stupid
The next MoC will be interesting, this guy is about to hard filter some people, even pagfly can't even 0 cycle it without two DDD, and Feixiao usually needs E1 Robin or cracked relics in the wind set.Who will /you/ use against him? Pagfly? *Buys you food*-chan? Feixiao? Ackeron?
>>497124983Elio is fraudulent
im stupid and impulse pulled both and their cone
>>497125023He won't handle your stupidity a second time
>>497124905No but to be fair I got her late in her banner and I've been farming relics for her since.
>>497125073Good old team FART.
>>497125073Only 1 right answer.
>>497125073PagXiao, Pagpaz and Pabin E1.
>>497125073>Maliketh the jobber blade>Hard filterThis isn't Kakaurines MoC debut gro, and even aven only hard filtered people for at most a week
>>497122397>>497122615I'd pull if she looked like this
>>497124853Maybe if we get a DPS that gets a damage boost from your Abundance's overheals, maybe Full ATK Lingsha build could be viable. *wink* *wink* Obsidian.And they did have some leaked testing that had Luospud and Lingspud both on the same team buffing a IMG and Quantum Destruction characters, set to release in the upcoming 3.0 patches.
>>497125073>physical weaknessBoothill
Getting a double blowjob from Lingsha and Ruan Mei posters
>>497124934>useless>already squaring off with emanators
>Hard filter some people>Even character_name can't zero cycle himSo which is it
>>497125145now grab their E1 too or you're bricked beyond redemption
>>497125145Seems like a SOUvLful decision to meand a metaslave decision too considering the coming summon meta
>>497124641>>497124680>>497124938How the fuck does Aventurine know?>inb4 muh IPC connectionsI highly doubt Elio and co would willingly spread info that there's a dude with a Stellaron inside him walking around when Elio's endgame seems to be banking on that dude making friends with literally everyone to kill Nanook, and a Stellaron is clearly something everyone dislikes. I highly doubt that Himeko and Co would carelessly let it slip out too. Yes, even March 7th. I highly doubt Herta would just casually go "Oh, the Stellaron in my collection? Yeah, some intruders stuck it inside a person." since that'd be something for others to take advantage of about her Space Station to offer her some more shit in exchange for her genius. And Herta seems to be known to just forget about the Curios she has in her collection, so it won't be entirely out of character for her to stop giving a shit about the Stellaron once she loses interest in it.
>>497125234A lot of anons about to pivot into liking the IPC.Im one of them.
>>497125023I regret stopping after losing an early coinflip on his LC banner
>>497125260Lingspud on fraud watch
>>497125305>she thinks Lingsha is gonna be needed for summons metalollmao even
>>497125073Feixiao + Yunli + Sigga + RobinHis speed will only make me kill him faster
>>497125145they're even looking at each other. it's fate.
>>497125145Based and SEX pilled>>497125305Oh yeah, both of them have summons. Gonna be funny how Topaz is going to be a sound investment for a 2nd round now.
>>497125073>endgame is so easy we have to pretend 0 cycling means anything
>>497125073>264 SpeedPerfect, more enemy turns just means my Yunli will counter more
>>497124949>28% break from traces>48% break from What Is Real?>64% break effect from rope>140% break effect without substatsAlready overcapped the ATK and Healing bonus before substats even enter the equation. And this is doubly true if using her S1 which grants 60% BE rather than 48.Funnily enough, Lingsha's BE breakpoint for her S1 secondary effect is impossible to not trigger since it grants 60% BE and only needs 150% and base break effect is 100%If you're lucky enough to be using Post Op S5 then with simply a rope and her trace break effect you need a meager 8% break effect in substats to maximize her healing potential.Outside of a superbreak team there is no practical application for break effect substats since you will always either have a break effect cone or a break effect rope.
>>497122748Love these
>>497125259Which emmanator lmao?The lab grown Bug which didn't obliterate us because it couldn't maintain it's own existance?Sunday after he takes over Dominicus?
>>497125470>What Is Real?stopped reading here
>>497125365Bro he bluffs it out of you in 2.0 remember?
Making Topaz's ass clap
>>497123618>>497113921Their threads are weirdly reminiscent of how ours was during 1.5 I wish them the best of luck in their upcoming deadpatch.
I'm not useless!I'm special and strong.The girls love me and I even have a wife!
>>497125374based vampirefag
>>497125541you're R Petarded.
>>497124927>everyone and their moms is talking about Stelle's Stellaron in casual conversations>Lutscher: *does his best medium impression* Wait... is that some kind of power I sense? Could it be... you have a Stellaron in your possession? What a loser.
>>497125365He literally calls you Stellaron-chan/kun gro, he already sussed it out, either some intel slipped or he just "felt" the power using his stone or whatever.
>>497124506Cute!
>>497125580Based Caelus standing up for himself!
>>497125507Phantylia, bug and Sunday.
>>497124854>I am no heretic!
>>497125663He got a suspicion about it and your reaction to his bluff made him figure it out.
>>497125382Is difficulty scaling now only going to be enemies having more and more speeds and being able to attack 3 times in row each turn?
>shartkeks when they can afford a character>brooooo this is the best character in the game you must roll or you miss out>shartkeks when they can't afford a character>trash, just skip man, not worth your rollswhy are poorfags like this
>>497125365Besides anons telling you he calls you Stellaron, literally a big part of his plan besides killing himself is maybe exploding your Stellaron or whatever (he just didnt know how to do that)
>>497125374Tbf, only Diamond, Opal, Jade, and of course, Obsidian are likable so far.Which is something I like about the IPC. You're not meant to like them as an entire batch, they aren't a monolith. They're all aligned here for their personal interest and gain, so you can basically see them try to fight each other sometimes.
>>497125785They are jealous and don't want you to play with the new toy they can't
>>497125752If anything Stelle is a Necron.
>>497125785Honkai shart fart
>Trailblazer, you have been cleared for voyage aboard the Xianzhou despite the looming Stelleron embedded in your chest that threatens to kill us all at any moment. Have you anything else to declare?I am also carrying a nuclear bomb.
>>497125382he attacks 6 times? wow looks easy for yunli. Fofo will just heal everytime Yunli hits ult too.
>>497125073I'm thinking more stacks from Jiaochud
>>497125775You DID roll for Aventurine right? He basically has infinite shields thanks to Hoolay constant AoE
>>497125073>even pagfly can't even 0 cycle it without two DDDand e2 (..kind of a given against any regular multiphase boss). there are fire shilling puppets on the first side for a reason
>>497125749>PhantyliaThat was all Jing Yuan and Dan Heng (Imbibitor Lunae) lmao>BugSee the post you're replying to>SundayHaven't gotten to that part yet but I highly doubt (You)'re actually doing something significant when there's all these other factions skittering around, not to mention Acheron.
>>497125470>>497125541>>497125605She needs a ERR rope retards
>>497125785>He can't afford a character he wants>>>/vg/gig/
even with E1S1 Lingsha I still can't 0 cycle Aventurine side in MOC, feeling pretty bricked right now bros
>>497125979S5 Post Op is widely recommended if available and allows you to change to a break rope instead of an ERRR
>>497125951>Cum Challice
>>497125785I could afford Lingsha and I went with pulling Topaz and saving up for Sigga instead because I think Lingsha is ugly and generic, Topaz is cute and sexy and Aventurine is funny and handsome
>>497126036critsha?
>>497125919>he attacks 6 times8
>>497125951>>497126095>with filled up condoms on the side of the hips
>>497126095You think Silver Wolf uses Switch cases or If elses?
>>497126036E1S1 Lady Fu can do it.
>>497126120Based IPCbrp
>Fraudbundance
>>497125951Brickfly...What's even worse is that you NEED a Sustain, you can't sub-in Asta for the SPD+DDD buff, so you're absolutely bound to 2 harmonies instead of 3.
>>497125785You can cope all you want bro, but Lingsha isn't doing anything for the summon meta.
>luocha mentioned
>>497126036Single target isn't exactly the forte of a true aoe unit. It's like saying "even with Herta e6 I still can't 0 cycle Aventurine in MOC".
>>497125775if only. enemies attack way too slowly in this game, which is why sustainless is still possible
>>497126239
>>497126361People really don't want to understand the new summons are not like her bunny or numby
Which Lingsha build to use for Feixiao team? Still BE?
If Lingsha can't do it then Gallagher is as wellHEHEHEHEHE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
>>497126361>Planning to make a Summon shill era of characters>Release Lingsha to appear to be the first part of this>Make her an abundance so that she can be broadly applicable to ANY team comp of this new mechanic>...>Don't actually give her the mechanics necessary to interact with itI just doesn't make any goddamn sense... They're going to have to release ANOTHER sustain that has a summon that actually uses the new system and they'll need to do it soon.
>>497126330>e2 with double s5 ddds and e1 rmHOLY SUPERBRICKED
>>497126457Summons =/= FSN collab servantsFSN collab servants => Summons
>>497126330I thought Boothill was bad, how is he clearing that quickly? Physical weakness?
>>497126594Aglea is not a FSN character and she has the new summons already.
>>497126398lol
WHERE'S THE CONTENT!!!
Glühwürmchenliebe!
>>497126508fu xuan marriage and lovemaking
hold all rolls and skip all characters until the next 5* foxian or you will be sad
>>497126628He was never bad lmao
>>497126661Which so far is only 1
>>497126628the stage has exo toughness + single big boss heavily favoring hunt over destruction + physical weakness. it's the perfect boothill boss, the only flaw is that wave 1 is 2 elites with no phys weak
>>497126628the exotoughness moc buff is extreme level of bullshit
>>497126743She looks so fucking smelly
>>497126508That's the thing though. Lingsha is not the first "summon" character. It'll be Algaea or whoever the first 3.0 is. By your logic Lightning Lord and Jing Yuan are the first summon character.
>>497126758Well duh, we know nothing else about any other character besides her.Just that 3.x is introducing this type of summons
>>497125918Be himeko>WE NEED FUEL URGENTLYLets go to space chine
>>497126628The Exo-Toughness buff is carrying his ass, Hoolay secondary toughness bar is 1/5th of the original but when you break it Boothill still does the same damage he had done to the original break bar.It's really fucking broken.
If you don't like Ruan Mei you are 100% homosexual. The evil woman cope and the boring character cope are literal closet faggot takes
>>497126862>Lingsha is not the first "summon" character. It'll be Algaea or whoever the first 3.0 is. By your logic Lightning Lord and Jing Yuan are the first summon character.Banana set is for summons, and it works on Jing Yuan, Topaz and Lingsha.
>>497126889going backwards doesn't cost fuel
Feixiaofags, how good is Lingsha with her? Didn't pull for Aventurine so was wondering about her stack generation compared to the Sigga
>>497126482You'll only want enough break effect to hit 200% and anything beyond that is ATK and survivability. What is Real is an okay Cope cone, just be sure to factor in it's 48% break effect into your numbers as it only appears in battle.With her traces and the 48% from cone her break effect will be 176% meaning you'll only need to pick up about 24% in substats to get the maximum sustain bonus and any additional break will not be particularly advantageous since she won't be breaking much and can't do superbreak.S5 Post Op if you have it which means you can use a Break Effect rope which means even less break effect substats are required. ATK% sphere, since she scales her healing and damage with it. And SPD boots, obviously.
>>497126508Money. But I still agree with you, it doesn't make it any less retarded when they sometimes just not future-proof characters a little when they can. They still don't have to be the best at the new thing, but it sucks ass if there is no interaction when there clearly should be, because those characters will eventually gather dust because of it and that is bad for the game's content value too.
Why do anons have such a hard time accepting that their favorite character isn't the best? Mfs would rather write essays of cope than accept that they pulled off meta (not t0)
>>497126972It's goodish but still inferior
>>497126330So Ack is a brick now?
>>497126628Boothill is amazing, noone pulled him because the next banner was Pagfly
>>497126956Alright then I guess King Yuan is the first summon character. Sexwithjingyuan eating good.
>>497126949Being evil makes her hotter
>>4971269722nd best sustain for her. Is a ~10% difference compared to Sigga.
>>497126751>single target huntbrick>only scales with 1 stat so 2 pieces of gear are completely wasted on him and all of those random ATK rolls are completely useless>shares the same supports with Firefly who does more damage>implants on ult rather than skill
>>497125918>nukes>in the Space AgeSurely there are more advanced forms of nukes in HSR's setting, right? We have literal space ghosts, and an old man who can summon a black hole. A nuke from our time seems tame in comparison.
>>497127036it's a break shilling stage with lightning resist, what do you think?
>>497126628He's good in single target scenarios and this upcoming MoC shills him hard while cucking destructionkeks. It's just no one rolled him cause no one NEEDS a hunt brick and he has all of 4 genuine fans.
>>497127069
>>497126972With how fast and frequently enemies tend to attack in blast and AOE nowadays, you won't beat him. Maybe with Luocha cone and heavy focus on ults you can, if that is all you care about it. It's quite powerful. You'd likely do this with a "break" build, aka very fast with energy rope and Luocha cone.
>>497127221i need sex with them
>>497127221they look so pretty next to each other
>>497127036she's awful on this side, just run her side 1moc after that megashills her (full aoe shared hp boss, 4x lightning weak enemies), rerun probably close
>>497127106Chaddwik created te Imaginary bomb which obliterates entire star systems
>>497127279More like RM mogs her
>>497127347Why are you like this?
>>497127221>>497127069>>497126783Sex
>>497126972Pretty good. Worse than Aventurine but in Feixiao, March, Robin team overall she's the second best sustain, a bit better than Gallagher. But there's a Feixiao, Bronya, Robin comp with bigger damage output and you have to use Gallagher for SP there instead.
>>497127347When you put Lingsha and Ruan Mei next to each other they look like the two hottest stacies at school that you always see together
>>497127474I'm right
>>497127648Stop being right then.
>>497127106Okay so, fun fact, have you ever heard of a photon torpedo? Also known as a proton torpedo in Star Wars? Those are matter/antimatter annihilation bombs that end up having effectively the same yield of just about the largest nuclear bomb that we can make. About 50 megatons. At the upper end of nuclear explosions the yields become impractical to actually use. And in the vacuum of space, with no atmospheric medium for the force to translate through directed energy weapons become more powerful.But the weapon that TB is carrying is a neutron bomb. A fission nuclear device designed as an anti-personnel explosive rather than an anti-materiel. It's meant to kill people with acute radiation poisoning while leaving their structures and equipment intact and operational.
Bros? I sort of wanna try and grab Topaz's LC. I already failed getting it once, but I was wondering if Lingsha's would be better overall?
Give me one reason why should I care about 0 turning
>>497127221
Xueyi bread?
>>497127750It helps Worm-pullers ITT validate their waifus getting plapped before their eyes
>>497127732>neutron bombthat was a sampo prank
>>497127738Whos gonna be on your team for the next couple years?The Abundance unit or the 3rd rerun hag on her way out?
>>497127738Topaz's LC shows her barefeet so it's already better in my book
>>497126972Obviously the second best sustain, Gallagher is better in some comps because Lingsha isn't SP positive enough compared to him or Sigga.
joining the Gallagher E6 club..does he actually warrant 150% break effect in the before-combat stats display? If in team with Ruan Mei and HTB, definitely no, but what if you put him in a non-break team?
>>497127914Topaz LC is good even without having Topaz though.
>>4971277500 cycling is essentially meant to be a demonstration of objective strength of a party or character in comparison to each other. Whether or not a character can zero cycle is not practical but is an indication of how strong they will be at lesser investment. They are basically just trying to gauge their power level.This is of course not the full story. the intricacies of turn order on the first turn can mean that some characters are actually better over 2 turns than a zero cycling character is over 2 turns, but they like to forget about that.
Please be the one.
>>497127738The better character obviously
>>497120548>make trailer on pc>remember it has to run on phones
>>497127738If you don't have Luocha's sig cone, her cone is mid. If you do it's downright "if I need Luocha cone on the other team" tier.As long as there are 3 enemies and you get 1 follow up per 2 turns, Luocha cone guarantees 2 turn ults. It's crazy strong. Sig with energy chain still requires 3 turns for an ult. Also not to forget, you get a speed buff. It says 1 turn, but speed buffs work weirdly, pretty sure it affects chars on cast and then 1 turn after that.Gallagher cone is free for anyone to use if you don't have Natasha cone on s5.
>>49712796220% BE from E6 doesn't show on stat screen. Also 150% is not mandatory, it's more important to have 160 speed and 100% effect res while just have decent BE at least around 100%.
THREAD??????????????????????????
>>497128026Defensa y effectro ladrillo
>>497128105>>497128105>>497128105
>>497128109>>497128109>>497128109>>497128109
>>497127980Crit based, follow up, hunt sub dps in a crit team?Really narrow application.
>>497128026That's gonna be the perfect Aventurine piece
everytime.
fucking christ why do no other generals have this double thread issue? it's not like we're extremely fast either, get a grip already
>>497127990Problem is the moment you include Robin, this idea goes right out of the window. All you show is how frontloaded her kit is, but every kit like this will eventually fall off, and then it falls of HARD. Just look at Jingliu. DDD is the same thing. DDD falls off if you can't 0 cycle with it, it's downright worse than many other cones.Not to forget no sustain runs (or even Gallagher runs outside of break) tend to require big RNG.0 cycle has fairly little meaning altogether.
>>497127036https://youtu.be/d4OV8K0KlUsNah, it's just that Single Target boss with Lighting RES is her worst case scenario, here's an AoE boss with Lighting RES, she absolutely fucking rapes the boss with minimal investment.
>>497125073Kurara Topag (+dumby) Turdurine Robrick easy sweep
>>497128293lol what is this cope, robin is incredible in pf as well and the avs don't even reset every cycle
