>UPCOMING TOURNAMENTS/ggg/: NONENA/EMEA weeklies/monthlies: https://x.com/nafgcto>UPCOMING EVENTSParis Games Week: October 23-27thDizzy: October 31stMajor Balance Patch: October 31stTeam of 3 open beta #2: November 8thArc World Tour 2024: https://www.arcsystemworks.jp/awt2024/>RESOURCESMain wiki with frame Data and information about system mechanics: https://www.dustloop.com/w/GGSTPlayer Glicko-2 ratings: http://puddle.farm/top/allFighting game glossary: https://glossary.infil.net/Deflect Shield OS tech: https://twitter.com/Precho6055/status/1778514309015826445>Replay Uploadershttps://replaytheater.app/?game=strive>/ggg/ APPROVED Strive modsPotato Modhttps://gamebanana.com/mods/299494/https://gamebanana.com/mods/296927/Frame Data Displayhttps://github.com/Chitaso/StriveFrameViewer/releases (1.08/Pre Season 4)>Nintendo Switch Edition Trailerhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k9zCMBXz57k >Season 4 Teaser Trailerhttps://youtu.be/wKWSBwkCUe0?si=Yq0Rn8zARMmCz5ua >Newest DLC: Slayer, May 30thhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fIrZvjyqf1Q https://youtu.be/sbcXEGBiMns?si=ybB9xtmt4WLR8P68 >Latest Dev Backyard (17th Volume, June 28th)https://www.guiltygear.com/ggst/en/news/post-2249/>Latest Patch 1.39https://www.dustloop.com/w/GGST/Version/1.39>Current Balance Patch 1.38 (July 22nd)https://www.dustloop.com/w/GGST/Version/1.38>Xrd/+R/#R Stuff:https://pastebin.com/tS6sjRUdhttps://www.reddit.com/r/Guiltygear/wiki/learngg/>Guilty Gear Soundtrackshttps://mega.nz/folder/VRxC2JqT#E0Jfw9f_yEwIV6yFgXnDZw/State platform and region when making lobbies for the thread and announce in the thread when you close them. You ft10 anyone you make the lobby. Keep training and keep on rockin'!SLASHED: >>497425140
Man we need that season 4 patch and we needed it yesterday
Mumble rappers knew that they could never be women,So instead of roping they/themselves, they blamed the RPS.But they found beauty in the lives of Mahjong, and could not lie to xemselves about it
I call everyone who doesn't actively play Strive mentally ill, why isn't the thread getting better after I do this?
Posting Ragna the petahedge II to remind you that he should've been announced for strive instead of Lucy
>>497875205What
breadly sin
>>497877838
>>497881123ehhhhh
>>497881123baikenfags don't even know what their favorite character looks like
bros i think im gonna turn off my koalageddon and try street fighter again...
>>497881123That's a Fate character, not Baiken.
>>497883928Bison is so retarded. I love it
I keep getting grabbed out of my air techs by Sol in Xrd, what do I do?
>>497883928ugly game
>>497875205I feel more mentally deranged each time I boot up strive and find more unique ways to take my frustration out in the general.
>>497891861We don't play that crap here.
ids nod e big deel :DDDD
>>497872054Rev 2 lobby is up.Name: gilly gear.Password: no pass.Lobby connection req: 2 or greater.Hosted in: NA west coast.
>>497901625Mid
I'm trying to learn Sol's corner combo but I can't get 662K to connect consistently and also I can't get 623H to come out after 2K
Will season 4 be good
>>497907473maybe
>>497907473If they nerf half the cast: yes.If they just buff the low tiers with some meaningless shit for the balance to remain almost the exact same: no.At least in s3 we had WA to look forward and it allowed for dozens of new routes and setups, right now only thing we have to look forward so far is balance which is abhorrent for the past year and no info on any new mechanic.
>>497907473Even: Season 4 will KILL button button specialOdds: Submit to WA strike throw...
Obligatory post clowning on lkAba is worse than sin and Sol isn't top 5 sure man whatever
>>497907473>>497907473Probably not. 1.18 was bad from a balance perspective and not that cool unless you found goldlewis’ drone funny. 1.29 was a complete nothingburger because they slapped Wild Assault on the cast and called it a day besides nago becoming an unfuzziable mix character.
>>497910654>bracket ruiners>"these charactesr took a set of me once in pools because I never learned the MU considering how dogshit and rare they are"Lots of words to say shit tier.
>>497910654man wtf i thought LK was a baiken downplayer but otherwise pretty normal. What is this dogshit
>>497910654LK has some weird tier names. Most of those characters in the “wins” tier haven’t even won multiple regionals this season. Does he just think that Johnny has a better MU chart than Sol or Leo because his far slash and oki is more braindead?
>>497910654>I-no>top 8 contenderlol
>>497914348nah bro ino's better than Aba, you haven't been paying attention?
Why do people think aba is strong?YRC and deflect shield totally kneecaps her. You're telling me you can't play hard defense for an absolute maximum of 8 seconds?
>>497916445This is the exact same argument Nago players use to justify his retarded offensemuh blood
There's something about RRC that just breaks this character
>these dead threadsUnironically what killed the hype
>>497917103I'm playing metaphor refantazio
>>497917103We can discuss different approaches to Alternative Play together if you want.
>>497916445>deflect shield totally kneecaps her. Bro your overhead travels half the screen. The RPS isn’t done
>>497917103Dizzy will release in 20 days and we still don't have anything besides her visual
>>497917103It always gets like this at the end of the season but this is especially bad because the s3 characters are all toxic
I think ABA is the best character in the game because she is my wife.
holy feeto
The orgies have been cancelled due to cabal infiltration
>>497922191It's fucking over.
>>497917103gamers are becoming more hatful towards LGBT and becoming aware of Jewish plots
... leo can RC from his dp?
>>497926739you can still RRC the heavy DPs because they don't have startup invuln, i believegod forbid sol loses his h.vv rc h.vv combos
>>497926739H DP but it doesn't have invuln anymore
>>497926870bruh what the fuck is this game
>>497927045what's the issuethe h.dps have been combo pieces not reversals for almost a year now
>>497927212I would've assumed all DP characters got the same gut but I guess not
>>497927643i don't get it
this donut would be a lot better with big bro sneed!
>>497932262I would rather have Delilah's donut! If you catch my meaning...
>>497933205then it's settled... we'll go out for sweets?
>>497933729If I was still able to enter things I would use winning to commission Delilah consensual and loving smut
>>497934847that's something everyone can enjoy!
>that brand of strive player who plays asuka, hc, jack-o, and zatoI hate these niggas who think they're good because they play le epic technical character
>>497935328I only play those characters because I don't want to button button special like everyone else.
Why does everyone just refuse to admit I-no's trash?
Why does everyone just refuse to admit Millia's trash?
>>497935437>federal agent makes more illegal material to "find"
You know they said "new" moves for the base roster. But never said anything about "returning" moves for everyone else. It would never happen regardless.
>>497938486If they wanted to give additional moves to the DLC characters they'd probably just be new moves anyway.
>>497938486the only dlc characters who could conceivably use new moves are test and baiken. if you respond to me talking about jacko needing a dp i'm gonna kick you in the ovaries
>>497938616I've matured. Jack-o doesn't need a dp. I've realized that now. It would be too OP in a game like Strive and bloat to her bloated movelist. Jack-O is a finished character that doesn't need any changes to her kit. But she does need invincible startup on 214PBridget and Baiken need new moves tho.
>character's defining trait is a string that feels frustrating and impenetrable to newcomers but once you learn how to deal with it the character is left with nothing else interesting mechanically making the entire matchup feel like it's just an uninteresting, glorified knowledge checkDid they design Elphelt like a Tekken character on purpose or was it incidental?
>>497940332i unironically believe elphelt is a victim of aba and slayer sapping dev timemaybe not her visual design but her kit for sure. they also probably didn't know how to translate elphelt's bullshit into strive properly so they just gave up and halfassed it
Here I go!(Air OK)
Who will be the half-finished character of season 4?
>>497943643Venom since all the unique characters always have something wrong with them.
>>497917103People woke up to Strive being bad
Why doesn't Johnny do the funny MJ pose anymore?
>>497901625I'm the guy she stomped on
>>497947538censored for western sensibilities
>>497872054Can someone who likes Strive explain what they enjoy about Wall Breaks and by extension Positive Bonus?
>>497949914I want to be an anime game in your face piece of shit who makes you sufferWall breaks and positive bonus let me be more of an in your face anime game piece of shit while I have even more fun and you have even less
>>497949914i think it's fun to be able to have a clear action that you can take to force a favorable gamestate. it's kinda like playing for cycle in UNI except dumber because you're not playing around the clock but rather screen position
>>497949914wall breaks are finepositive bonus is finestop being shit at the game
>>497949914>wall breaksReset to neutral for another chance to win the game instead of being vortex giga rapedA fun way to enforce different types of combo routing, sometimes forcing players to be more creative>positive bonusLets me resource dump to force truly fucked guilty gear offense or skip neutral entirely
>>497949914>Positive BonusThat's right, go forth. Don't look back.
How much money do you guys think I'd have to offer Baiken for her to agree to letting me such on her fat tits?
>>497950334What about when you are wall broken?>>497950953I didn't consider this but wouldn't it be the same as simply getting your opponent in the corner in other games- you being able to do what you want while your opponent is in the corner is a favorable gamestate and based entirely on screen position, it just doesn't give you an extra bonus. Is the clear tangible reward of Positive Bonus what does it for you?>>497950954Well this response is just kinda sad.>>497951374>for another chance to win the game instead of being vortex giga rapedWith Positive Bonus and normally a hkd, the odds are still stacked against you. You have the same chance of winning the game as you would using a defensive option and creating space or reversing the situation in any other game- but is this feeling because you don't have to do anything or use any resources to get back to a chance of winning?>enforce different types of combo routingHm, I didn't really consider this before but in other games you normally just have to decide between setting something up or doing your biggest combo (either biggest damage or biggest meter gain- not saying that there aren't still lots of options here, but they don't matter as much as breaking the wall or not breaking he wall). But I don't really see this in high level gameplay in tournaments, it seems like getting hkd and positive bonus even at the cost of not having the opponent in the corner is the correct choice for all top tiers and a pro players.>to force truly fucked guilty gear offense or skip neutral entirelyWith the defense buff and extra meter gain, there's far less risk to get the far higher reward with attack buff and extra meter gain so I see why this feels good- but how does it feel when it's done to you?>>497952364I can believe in the path I'm on
>>497952705that's a lot of words to ultimately say "i'm bad". slime fighter dix is right down the road anon >>>/sfg/
>>497952705>I didn't consider this but wouldn't it be the same as simply getting your opponent in the corner in other games- you being able to do what you want while your opponent is in the corner is a favorable gamestate and based entirely on screen position, it just doesn't give you an extra bonus. Is the clear tangible reward of Positive Bonus what does it for you?i agree that it is similar to simply cornering your opponent but it's definitely not exactly the same. guilty gear is a game where you get to do a lot of fun shit with meter and yes having that tangible reward provides a better feeling feedback loop than simply cornering someone
finna wake up wild throw
the amount of damage that nago takes when he's at max blood needs to be increased by at least another 50%
Where's the giovanna figure
soive
>>497964771...won!
dizzy but soived
dead generali killed the general(xrd won)
>>497970812soive dizzy facesitting
Venoms balls and the fish will guard crush 100%
>>497935328Asuka, Zato, HC, Jacko and Gio, Ky, Testament and Ram are two sides of the same coin
Ky is like HC and other incredible /ggg/ takes
>>497975392>doesn’t get it I see /ggg/ isn’t ready yet
KyGAWDS, post THAT image
>>497975876
>>497973194If Dizzy keeps her 2H it'll be her guard crush move
>>497947538Most of the legacy changes are just for the sake of change. “We already animated this in 3D”.
>>497947538his +R f.S was also better
>>497978761they gave that to ram
>>497940332Even the worst kekken character has nothing on how boring and frustrating elphelt rekka is to fight
How the fuck do I play against Millia as Sin?
>>497910654Stop putting bracket ruiner in your tiers lk its a meaningless term you retarded retard
>>497910654Load Knight is a huge fucking faggot for insisting on doing these retarded tier names instead of a normal S-F ranking.
that gio max tension gimmick really do be working
>>497979865always bet on DP
>>497979865nigga you have the best backdash in the game
>>497985785>all 3 mist finers in one comboBASED
>>497985785Could’t you have just canceled into super after 6K?
>>497935328why do characters that require a semblance of thought make hipsters seethe so much?
>>497947538Because they realised the round end kill shifts the camera, so they made the new pose to look cool when you finish the round with that's my name.
tranny game and not the good kind
>>497935328"I practiced execution and now my character plays the game for me" characters.It is pretty funny still seeing people call Asuka the hardest, most technical fg character ever when all he ever does is cube spam.
>>497910654it's like he thinks he's peddling some secret pro player knowledge with his dogshit tierlists like we don't also experience the same game
Faust is the only character that requires thinking let's be honest
>>497993982Where "thinking" is defined as huffing exhaust fumes in a favela.
>>497993982Facts
>>497993610If you can’t force them to run out of resources with your pick up and play champ, that’s on you :^)
>>497907473They need to heavily nerf Johnny, Aba, Slayer, HC, and Sol and slightly nerf Nago, Leo, and May. They'll probably lightly nerf Slayer, buff the rest significantly, and give meaningless consolation buffs to the remainder of the cast. I don't have high hopes.
>>497993982easier than bedman because his shit doesn't go away if he makes mistakes. minifaust, hammer, hair, meteors are all braindead and not only that he gets hkd from everything and can even flail around with his spin being a safe on block, crossup combo starter. let's not forget that you can just delete some characters moves by holding diagonally down. Oh and half of your normals are gigantic anti-airs because they just have to be.Faust is easy
>>497996247cope
S3 Asuka, Jack-O, Zato and HC all have bottom 10 winrates at mid to high elo. Mindbroken behavior from so called “neutral gawds”
>>497996490ok what about tournaments
>>497996576>what about the best of the best competing against eachother what about it?
>>497998162the game should be balanced according to people that actually know how to play the game
>>497998284So...us?
>>497998284I disagree. The game should be balanced around the way the majority of people play. Top players are a small percentage and will always find a way to minmax for easy wins.
just make frc cost a fixed 25% and give back dmg scaling to normal rcis not that fucking hard
>>497998284Just because EU tournaments get farmed by HC doesn’t mean anything. He hasn’t won a single NA major after the concentration nerf. Zando and Gobou could get top 8 with any character. They didn’t debut with Asuka. Jack-O is inconsistent. Zato hasn’t done shit. You have to be a bum like LK to think HC players aren’t better. The better player wins in Strive. Tiers in modern games aren’t a zero sum game
>>497999390oh yeah and to be clear, you SHOULD NOT be able to do frc if you just have 25 tension, you just get 25 back. We don't want another wild assault situation of infinite wall to wall combos
>>497999390No. You WILL play the arbitrary Mario Party mini game.
>>497999585Do you call tying your shoes and breathing in enough air a Mario Party mini-game too?
>>497999708I don't wear shoes with laces. Needing to breathe is cringe.
>>497999557I agree with this
>>497979790Hwoarang is worse.
>>497999557I don’t like playing against Johnny already. Why the fuck would I want him to have more free tension to open me up?
>>498001853You'll have more tension to play around his offense too, idiot.
>>498001987Tell me how to FRC YRC, hombre. Or wait did you mean FDing despite his faster and longer buttons lol. Nah fuck that shit. Building enough meter after a FRC should stay niche like with Potbuster not make the game more braindead
>>497999585the minigame would be fine if it didn't punish you for being too fast for no fucking reason. Currently you have to do rc, wait a few frames and press the button before the rc symbol goes away. Why the fuck do i have to wait those frames? It throws my rhythm off. Why can't i just do rc button in quick succession? So weird
Is this what they call a microdash
>>498002992we don't read that crap here
>>498003035Dilate
>>498002689Do forget that if you're too late then you won't save any meter, or get the benefits of a full RC. ;)Dumb rules. Dumb mechanic.
you fags are literally just describing combosyknow we should cut the bullshit and 1 button TODs while we’re add ittiming is archaic
>>498003812We need stun, iks, and ridiculously high dizzy modifier normals back.
>>498003812>while we’re add itat it*
>>498003812with combos you always want to do them as fast as possible if not for specific reasons like waiting for the opponent to fall down etc. Or in the case of strive to increase the chances of a wallsplat. This dumb frc mechanics demands you to be fast but at the same time wait an arbitrary number of frames. Fast but hey not THAT fast!It's retarded
>>498003812Inconsistent timing is archaic and not fun to play around. That's why I'm not mad the characters weights were changed.
>>498004413Agreed, differing character hitboxes has always been enough to influence routes change especially when you have guys like Potemkin. I'm fine with varying wakeups too since it can distinguish a character but slight changes in gravity is purely annoying
>>498004275>wait an arbitrary number of frames.there is nothing wrong with gatekeeping meter
It’s so cold I can’t do a dp input because my fingers are half numb
>>498007595Where the fuck do you live its only October
>>498007695West virginia
I’m glad Katano is kara pilled and will never entertain these ideas. KYS, mashers
>>498007856mountain mama
>>498007932The changes would benefit you too. You should have no argument against it.
TSDXRD WILL RISE AGAIN
>>498008768Again implies it was ever alive in the first place
>>498008554I don’t like shit becoming easier. I don’t care that you can’t do it consistently
I don't mind hard mechanics in a vacuum but when I play Strive I just wanna be a retard
>>498009683I play strive to wind down after fighting actual good players in other anime games
>>498009250Easier for them means it's easier for you too. You don't like it being easier because you're not actually good at the game, and if more people could do the things you can, then you would feel worse because you can't beat them in actual combat. In other words: if the playing field was even, you would be exposed as the fraud you are.
>>498009860in the real world, you have to train to become a good fighter. you just want to have results handed to you with no effort put in.
>in the real worldyou're saying i can frc in real life???
>>498010516Walk up to someone act like you’re going to punch them then stop before it hits them and follow up with “made ya flinch”. Frc irl.
>>498010572OK now how do I drift RC irl
>>498009860>posting Polnareff of all characters with your shitter copeFuck you
I thought people wanted easier execution so they could interact more. Making FRC easier would be a win more mechanic.
>>498010697Use your irl dash macro
>>497880318
>>498009789this is peak strive actually
>>498001847ok fine but thats just 1 out of like 36 kekkens
Jack-o doesn't workJack-o is glitchyarcsys wont fix their game
man these HRThreads have been so boring without any tranny drama, anything new on the horizon? is Tiger_Pup taking estrogen yet?
So do you guys embrace the guilty queer moniker? The game is 100% for fags after all.
I like hpw slayer is pretty much arcsys going "You WILL lose to goofy ahh troo troos and you WILL like it"
>>497986121Strive doesn't have player expres- ACK!
It’s so cold but the masculine heat that burns inside keeps me warm enough to do a dp input (Starship)
>>498021820Real niggas use all 8 Behemoth Typhoons
>>498021991Wow… I just turned the heat on…
>>498021820>have player expression>get rewarded with no damage and loss of resources i hate this game.
>>497985785>didn't even kill>didn't even wall stickthis game sucks
>>497872054East Coast Throwdown has all of Xrd todayStrive pools/top 48 to top 8 will be tomorrowAnd then Strive top 8 on the 13th
>>498024201Where's Sparking Zero
>>498024201Where's Melee?
>>498023027Should have gone for charged RWA after fS
Anon, (You) don't actually use YRC as a defensive option do you?
>>498025950No, I use it as an offensive and neutral option.
>>498021820>pushing the limits of the baby combo system is player expressionno. player expression is having 200 different combo routes/oki setups to choose from and picking one that no one else has
>>497985785words cannot express how much I hate guts/defense modifiers as a mechanic
>>498026464>Nago mashing after the freeze when he can see Slayer is mid f.SWhat floor was thisEven super wouldn't work I don't think
>>498025950BRC backdash doesn’t work. What am I supposed to do with my meter?
>>498026663either celestial or floor 10, that webm is a couple months old
>>498026663He must have thought he'd catch it whiffing.
>498026464>slayeropinion disregard
>>498026464see>>497959380
>>498022827>does easy dumb shit >no rewardGood
>does easy dumb shit>wins 26/28 MU'sGood
>>498028165>didn’t generate 50 tension>BWA HKDbitch
>>498028165Truly Slayer is the most Strive character to ever Strive
this... this is everything...
>>498028165C O U N T E Rbutton button pilebunkerbutton button pilebunkerwall break supersafe jump C O U N T E R
>>498024425I'd be actually interested in how high level tournament gameplay would look for that game.
>>498029042Sneeds to be more manual
how do you guys think slayer will be nerfed in the upcoming patch? personally i'd like for asw to make mappa negative at all ranges, ideally -4 but it wouldn't surprise me if they did some stupid shit like make it -3 at worst spacing and +3 at best spacing as some kind of "fair trade off". all bunker loops should also require manual timing.
>>498029724I think they will make very superficial changes and then overly buff other shit he has to compensate and then do the same thing again in the next balance update. I'm very confident that ArcSys has just actually bumped any good balance changes they've ever made.
>>498029724They should give him an install that makes all of the hits in his next combo universe counters. But to make it fair he should only have access to it at 30% health and cost 100 tension and it should also double his defense and/or guts because why not he sneeds it.
>>498029724way less tension gain. remove special cancels for 2h, being able to prc super mappa, making mappa consistent like may dolphins. but knowing this game, they'll change a whole system before nerfing a character that's clearly broken. like how they made burst full screen with hc and asuka.
>>498029724Implement some kind of feature where if you select him there's a 30% chance your system starts emitting lethal levels of radiation.
>>498031128Making Burst full screen was a reasonable change, it was more than just those two that had plenty of Burst safe routes that they'd be doing even if they weren't baiting Burst.
>>498029724here's what the patch notes are gonna look like>Slayer>c.S now has less horizontal range but more vertical range to compensate>f.S is now *only* +2>2H reduced start up to make it "more viable in neutral">6K reduced start up to make it "more viable in pressure sequences">Mappa Hunch all versions are now -3, to compensate it now does more damage and has more range.>Master's Hammer now hits low for some reason>Pilebunker now always leads to loops on successful hitPlease buy Habibi Dizzy btw
>>49802972480% proration on 2HK mappa no knockdown That’s it. And that’s a good thing
What if instead of saying 'Rock You' Sol's headband said 'Rock Tuah'
>>498029724They need to gut MappaThat move is beyond ignorant
>>498029724Make all the follow ups from dandy step more minus on block
>>498024201Thanks u smart beautiful benevolent nigga
>>498029724make the launch angle on 2h further and higher
>>498033809i agree with this guyif baiken can't combo off her 2H slayer shouldn't either
>>498029724>2H no longer special cancellable. Reduced blowback. Reduced gravity on hit. Launches higher on hit.>Mappa All versions have 6 more active frames. No change to Attack Level.>Super Mappa Hunch can no longer be Roman Cancelled after becoming active.>Dandy Step tension gain reduced.>f.S now has increased blowback when FD is used>6[K] now has reduced recovery. No changes made to 6K.>Increased lower portion of hurtbox on 5K.>Backdash buffed>Dandy Step Overhead and Pilebunker are given 2 more active frames each.
>>498024201>Strive top 8 seeding that’s one boring ass line-up ngl I guess I will look up the Aboii matches later if he makes it that far
finna CH 2H , 6H > 214K-P
Stun dipper (Air OK) when
Slayer must get back 6H jump cancel if you want 2H cucked
>>498035229Why is UMISHO there? What the fuck.
>>498040230What do you mean? He won the previous US gold event.
>>498038043on this note, the season 4 patch will rework sin to have an actual j.D and have all his specials be air OK
>>497902974Lobby's up.Come and play.
>>498041325No? Dreamhack wasn't an AWT event and Thaiger Uppercut was all Japs & like 2 Aussies.
A whole town?
>>498043630The last USA gold tourney was CEO. Why shouldn’t he be seeded second? Nitro is the only one there with a better result.
>>498044221why have an abusive and toxic person there at all.
>>498044027goldlewis’ schlong is a equivalent to a town, yes
>>498044221Are we so quick to forget Tempest? He was also banned for abuse.
>>498029724Yeah, but in 2 ways:A: He gets nerfed to shit and becomes a meme character only known for his damage potential.B: They make it where he is virtually the same.
>>498044359>>498044627Libel and “toying with feelings” are nothingburgersChuds lost
>>498041325Didn't he lie about being SA'd and another org already ban him? Being trans really is a like a bulletproof vest for any type of criticism.
>>498044943the retvrn of S1 Anji
>>498045110let*clap*transwomen*clap*be*clap*shitty*clap*
>>497902974don't you ever get tired of this shit?
>>498046772Just ignore him, it's not like we play that crap here
>>498047069Based
>>498047069right on, sis
>>498046772>>498047069Not him. Is this not a Guily Gear thread?
>>498047447Strive players consider it transphobia to play previous games
>>498047447This is indeed the Guilty Gear thread
Your loss.
We watching East Coast Throwdown?https://www.twitch.tv/tampaneversleeps?tt_content=channel_name&tt_medium=embed
>>498047447undistilled anime repels Strive maidens like holy water
my vote for next guest character this orange nigga funny as fuck dude
>>498050968still better than L*cy
anything is better than ragna
>>498052759This. Blazblue can stay dead.
>>498052759cmon man Daisuke composed his themes no more brother wars
>>497902974>Game crashes.>Steam's also shit itself too.Wut.Why is gaben doing this?crash log:https://files.catbox.moe/c0ahjg.txtAnyways, lobby's back up.
I want john kagurabachi to join the roster and powercreep johnny
>>498028165>I will now proceed to mash after a j.h
3k hours in this fucking game and i still cannot get into celestial
How much better life would be if Jack-O's servants didn't disappear on block. >but your defense supe-OHHHHHHH if only there was a way~ Katano-sama, please buff my low tier character!
>>498057762EVO winning characters do not get to complain
>>498056949Just play against a character that doesn’t have a DP and keep staggering close slashes. Fullproof plan
>>498058150They only lost because everyone dodged the matchup. Jack-O sucks.
>>498057762sol is so lucky
any ky combos that look really cool? I don't care if they're optimal or not. I feel like stun dipper rc -> h fireball has potential for sauce also this gif of deadlock ivy dances perfectly to the the beat of overture's version of holy orders lol
>>498058471I'm a fan of h.VT shock state combos personally
>>498058471@BlueFern22 on Xitter is basically an account dedicated to Strive Ky meme combos
>>498058471kys furfag
>>498057762what if you just improved?
>>498058701im not a furry that shits gay and corny asf my nigga>>498058665perfect. thank you.
>>498058371Name 1 single thing that Nitro got away with
>https://x.com/danymzt_fgc/status/1841700257396060626?s=46I always thought I was ass for getting counterhit after hitting someonr with stun edge but it really was just dumb frame data. Why is it possible to 6P invul through it, IAD on reaction and be plus enough when you get hit by it?
>>498059314I don't know. I don't watch Strive, I just play it.>>498061213Yeah stun edge is ass. Worst fireball in the game.
>>498061853So you losing with Jack-O is a skill issue then? Maybe you should watch some Nitro to improve
Why do I escape Johnny's pressure in +R? His blockstring seemingly never ends. Can I jab his dash if I have a 3 frame jab?
>>498063121I never lose with Jack-O fool.
>>498063142I look exactly like this.
>>498063142 #>I look exactly like this.
>>498063269I've never struggled with his pressure in +R really, not even to the point of having a specific counter in mind for it. You should check the replay takeover for it and just mash a poke at him and see when it lands, I imagine it will at some stage. I don't think his pressure is that tight, especially not compared to other characters in the game. Te only really annoying things about it to me are that coin can be difficult to deal with and he also keeps himself at a range that makes it hard to counter with your faster buttons.
>>498064554Hey...
>>498063142I used to look just like this
why has everything have to be rps?Like i know i-no is gonna throw her face on me in neutral, should i 6P her aerial or 2S her stbt? I have to guess. Why can't i have an option that covers both to stop her retardness and make her slow down and think for a second? The whole game is like this, even if you know their intention you still have to guess
>>498067024Who are you playingSome characters can check both of I-no's options, like Ky 5K
i still cannot wrap my mind around fuzzies
>>498067024FD and jump more.
>>498063142Cute and sexy, nice
>>497902974>"a sign has occured."Gaben really IS fucking with me.Whatever it was i assume it affected everyone on their ends.The last two might be network related somehow.
I wish I were ky's gay husband
>>498067385https://glossary.infil.net/?t=FuzzyYou ever try switchblocking “fast” overheads and thinking to yourself “there has to be a timing for this right?”
>>497902974Lobby is back up, sorry for the inconvenience.
>>498067385diaphone has a guide on strive delay option selects on youtube
how is goldlewis winning this patch when they took away plus WWA? Does it just not matter? Is the presence of a thing that blows you up if you pressed a button in neutral just too fucked up on goldlewis even if he loses his turn on block?
>>498070664high damage game. high damage character
>>498070664Winning what? His WWA doesn’t get used that much now unless the MU requires it like Asuka or Testament. Bursting and setting up lv3 drone is usually better.
i understand fuzzies on a theoretical level but in practice it requires me to eyeball frames with absolute precision without any indicator. I HAVE to wait 5 frames, i HAVE to block for exactly 10 frames low and then high (example), i HAVE to know exactly then the blockstun ends for every attack level.I can't fucking do this shit by instinct and no i did not get a feeling for it by playing. 5-10-15 frames they all look the same to me
>>498070664how do you think he won games in season 1 and 2 brohis j.D is still an incredible button and his pressure is still terrifying. he just can't skip neutral completely
I can fuzzy block, but I can't fuzzy attack
I can fuzzy mash but I can't fuzzy dash
lol i love raging milliaswhat a good set to end on.
>>498071518people usually said he was shit after he lost drone because he loses neutral hard against characters that are good at space control, and afaik the only shit that changed for him after was gaining WWA and having it nerfed
>>498071854the people saying he was "shit" after the drone nerf were just carried by it being a brainless neutral skip. yes, he struggles somewhat against characters who can box him out but his offense is still juiced as fuck
>>498071854He also received a 7 frame 2K, 268H became got sidegrades, air BT space control got buffed and his 2S got it’s frame data buffed twice into becoming an actual button. It’s still only Rang and Cheryo doing well with him though. And it’s not like beating Dany in Grand Finals is that huge of a feat
>>498072819i forgot about them buffing his 2P and 2Ki miss when "bad abare" was an actual weakness some characters had. right now it's basically just i-no
>>498073476What is bad about her 2K?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tjmnNbG0HAwdamn they finally made a tutorial on how to play like a bitch>ermm youre outplaying your opponent by waiting for them to make a move first>what do you mean its boring? im playing to win!!!!1!!!1!
>>498074061>Machabo slander You take that back, Jamtard
>>498074061you should focus on learning alternative play in granblue rising.
>>498074504*brave counters this post*
>>498074504the alternative play is to main gran because you have no money
>>498074061letting people hang themselves is fun from to timenot as fun as running up DPing but still fun
>>498073953mostly that it's 6f
https://youtu.be/h6YBHrh4Uno?si=Q3dA0jRBgETmQ1o9
>>498080862thanks, naoki. very cool!
i wish there was a way to send messages to people in training mode like in xrdimagine labbing and a giant KILL YOURSELF FAGGOT passes over the screanthat would be funny
>>498082208/ggg/ thinks homophobia is funny now? This place used to be an inclusive community...
>>498081865I forgot... My lyrics...
...And you may find yourself dying in a Slayer BnB.
>>497902974>"You have been signed out."GABEN.YOU FAT JEW.WHY.lobby's back up.
Xrd Baiken is so gay
>>498087526kindashe's still 5x less gay than +r Baiken but if you don't know all the little places that look like you can punish that are actually just azami baits she just gets away with basically anything and even if you're on point she's allowed to gamble in ways no other character can get away with, meterlessly and for huge rewardnot so bad if you put some effort in to learn the matchup and keep your punishes tight, but there's always a bullshit factor
>>498083807>Japanese "hunmour"
i unironically hope they turn gg into anime street fighter more and more. I hate everything about the gameplay besides the character design and music.This offense and pressure is UNBEARABLE and makes me seethe with anger
>>498028165Funny, I have a webm exactly like this, the only difference being that the first touch wasn't a counter hit, I just upbacked for one nanosecond then got clapped. Then for the second touch post-wallbreak I tried to 214S.Round lost in two inputs
You can learn a lot watching a scrub play because they actually try different things. Watch a "good" player and they'll just do the same shit over and over again to win.
I FUCKING LOVE GETTING WALL STUCK FROM FULLSCREEN SO FUCKING MUCH! IN FACT I THINK JOHNNY SHOULD HAVE EVEN MORE OBNOXIOUS RANGE!
>>498092187That's why I Alternative Play.
>>498093906Strive Johnny's wall splats aren't even half has bad as they were in xrd
>>498094206I really don't get why people like this game
>>498094206It's Level 3 so it's literally fair and I'm saying that completely unironically
>>498092187This is the dunning kruger truth of fighting game.You see all those Sols trying to ultra optimize every single touch to oblivion to improve without realizing that Umisho and tatuma plays the most braindead simple flowchart Sol ever and mash DP at any occasion possible and it always work.It's the same shit for my character, I'm trying to learn dozens of new setups but the best player just do the same oki and just RPS it perfectly from it.
>>498094206I've only played XX and Strive.Is that for real or the Ino just didn't tech ?
i'm unironically on the verge of insanityi can't stand the pressure in this fucking game anymore. When i'm facing sol, slayer or johnny i get so filled with murderous rage and intent i could probably kill someone irl next to me, not joking.Doesn't help i can't still make giovanna work after all this fucking time.I'm going crazy
>>498094776real, would have black beat if he could have techedbut it's not quite as long as it looks because super flash doesn't count as time passing for hitstun>>498094279it's greatif your game doesn't have any silly shit in it it's soulless and not worth playing
>>498095379It doesn't really seem that great from what I see / the admittedly little I playedAll my interactions with the people who play Xrd make it seem like they're justifying the hours they sunk into the game
i swear to fucking god i've been playing for years and 70% of the time i don't get what fucking hit me
>>498090963>i unironically hope they turn gg into anime street fighter more and moreNigga, that ship sailed like right after launch when they buffed Zato, Leo, and Nago.
>>498095516because it's a fun game with a high skill ceiling with silly moments. i don't get the type of brain someone has to have to make posts like this.
>>498096339They killed Zato dough
>>498096382I don't see how it's fun. I really, honestly don'tIt seems like a convoluted mess with retarded balance and literally no good points
>>498096495rev2.1 is far more balanced than fucking strives entire life span so far
>>498096672From what little I know about Rev 2 I'm not sure that's trueIsn't Elphelt an even more retarded version of Nago?
>>498096792elphelt and johnny are outliers in an otherwise surprisingly extremely balanced game. and them being SSS tier doesn't stop other characters from just being good baseline unlike strive where half the cast you might as well not play because other characters are playing strive xx rev2 +r
>>498096961Strive balance is the other way around right now though. Outside Slayer most of the cast is balanced between the new moves and WA, and even Slayer is less completely unhinged and more just stupidly ignorantI was always suspicious of the claim of Xrd being "balanced" desu, it seemed to me more like the type of situation where the playerbase simply wasn't deep enough to really figure out what was broken/what wasn't. Like, wasn't Venom considered completely unviable until Pepperysplash started playing him?
>>498096792Elphelt is HC if his zoning was never nerfed.
>>498097180>Like, wasn't Venom considered completely unviable until Pepperysplash started playing him?no? wtf lol, also>it seemed to me more like the type of situation where the playerbase simply wasn't deep enough to really figure out what was broken/what wasn'tare you retarde, this game might not have sold well it was still one of the most popular tournament games for it's time.
>>498097395>still one of the most popular tournament games for it's timeWasn't Rev 2 literally a one and done EVO main stage game?
>>498097554rev2 was mainstage for 2 years, xrd was mainstage from 2015-2018
>>498098148Huh, I'm genuinely surprised it was even that popular. I always thought it was a glorified side game even back in the day
>>498095516I like that it has anime game freedom, a ton of options in every situation and complex and varied characters, while having fairly short combos and fast paced interactions compared to most (real) anime games, enough modern quality of life stuff to be easier to play and pick up new characters than the older games, and a good mix between clean, planned and set up interactions and messy scrambles and adaptation. The way stray neutral hits rarely lead to full damage but instead knockdowns to stabilize situations and then you do your BNB off a known starting hit works well to promote both making shit up on the fly and having cool labbed out combos. It's a game that rewards a wide variety of abilities and knowledge and everything from wildman crazy shit overwhelming your opponent with hard reads to calculated and studied play is rewarded.>>498096792No, they're really nothing alike, that's a weird comparison to make. Nago is kind of like Xrd Sin if he had Slayer stuff. Elphelt is like HC, and she's dumb as fuck but honestly less broken than HC.>>498096961This isn't true either really. Johnny is the best character in the game but not in a tier of his own, if Omito didn't exist there would be ~5 characters people could argue for top 1. Elphelt is only considered top tier in the west, japan thinks she's mid tier. I think they're crazy but they generally are better than NA at the game so you can't discount their opinion completely, it's strong evidence that she's at least not overpowered if the best region thinks she's not even that good.The main complaint to make about Xrd's balance is the bottom 4-5 characters are a bit handicapped at top levels of play, Zato, Pot, Axl, Bedman and maybe Jack-O or Answer are bad choices if you want to win big tournaments, but Jack-O and particularly Answer are arguably underexplored and at least mid tier. Compared to +r the top tiers are way more fair, but +r's bottom tiers are better off because of the higher power level.
there is some fucking weird bullshit going on in celestial. I got perfected four time in a row by an anji that played like he was reading my mind, it felt like there wasn't a person behind the character. Very few spins, always the right aggressive button at the right time.I beat him once by playing completely random and nonsensical. I look at his profile and i see this.
>>498098345>No, they're really nothing alike, that's a weird comparison to make. Nago is kind of like Xrd Sin if he had Slayer stuff. Elphelt is like HC, and she's dumb as fuck but honestly less broken than HC.I don't really know what Xrd Sin is like so this comparison doesn't mean a whole lot to me
>>498098345>The main complaint to make about Xrd's balance is the bottom 4-5 characters are a bit handicapped at top levels of play, Zato, Pot, Axl, Bedman and maybe Jack-O or Answeri think answer is definitely super unexplored and like the only good answer player thinks he's up there in a tier with the rest of the cast. but yeah xrds only super real problem balance wise is pot, zato, axl, bedman not getting some last minute buffs. but i guess that's a good problem to have for a fighting game with that many characters
>>498098345>I like that it has anime game freedom, a ton of options in every situation and complex and varied characters, while having fairly short combos and fast paced interactions compared to most (real) anime games, enough modern quality of life stuff to be easier to play and pick up new characters than the older games, and a good mix between clean, planned and set up interactions and messy scrambles and adaptation. The way stray neutral hits rarely lead to full damage but instead knockdowns to stabilize situations and then you do your BNB off a known starting hit works well to promote both making shit up on the fly and having cool labbed out combos. It's a game that rewards a wide variety of abilities and knowledge and everything from wildman crazy shit overwhelming your opponent with hard reads to calculated and studied play is rewarded.I'm not trying to be rude but this sounds a lot like "it's a fighting game" with a bunch of words desu. These types of posts where people dump text to try and convince people that Xrd is the best thing since sliced bread is what I was talking about when I mentioned people trying to justify their hours, just a bunch of gobbledygook to say it's cool
sextament
>>498098732god forbid anyone tries to substantiate why they like something and have a discussion on the japanese basket weaving forum
>>498098825It's fine if you want to have an in depth discussion but when you write a paragraph about how it's sooooooo sick to choose between a HKD and a BNB what is there to talk about
>>498098496Sin has a bar that lets him cancel his specials into each other and then get forced into punishable recovery if he overspendsalso Elk Hunt is kinda like beyblade>>498098732the other potential answer to "I think your game is shit why do you think it is good" is greentext about getting filtered and speculating about their gender identity so I decided to answer earnestly instead, not my problem if you haven't played enough different games to have perspective
>>498098972because stray hits in guilty gear and capitalizing on that while optimizing them is what makes the older games very fun. it's a very important skill to have in +r and xrd
>>498099052>the other potential answer to "I think your game is shit why do you think it is good" is greentext about getting filtered and speculating about their gender identity so I decided to answer earnestly instead, not my problem if you haven't played enough different games to have perspectiveThe idea that it's some kind of lack of experience that makes people dislike Xrd is so funny to me, I have hundreds of hours in 3S, SF4, Strive, and UNI. The unprompted lashing out about trannies is also pretty telling I thinkI just don't get it. I genuinely, earnestly don't understand why you guys put this game on a pedestal when it's just not good>>498099169Oh for sure man
>>498099229the anon wasn't lashing out about trannies lmao, he is just explaining instead of the usual norm these god awful threads constantly rage baiting he wanted to actually explain.
>>498098820xhe
>>498099350Even if that wasn't 100% a "You don't like Xrd? You must be a dick-chopper bro" the insinuation is definitely still there
>>498099229>I have hundreds of hours in 3S, SF4, Strive, and UNIthese are all games where stray hits literally do matter much as you are way more restricted in what you can do from each hit, you just go into your respective bnb from whatever starter you got while older gg games you are much more inclined to learn your characters combo theory because you really don't know what you can get off some random bullshithttps://youtu.be/5ZFS5fkTfZ0
>>498099840Again, I don't have a lot of Xrd experience but UNI is pretty stringent in terms of what you can do off what starter; Hyde's damage and routes vary really wildly depending on what you get as a starter just as an exampleBut that's not really the point I was driving at. What I was driving at is any discussion of Xrd just comes from an inherent place of dishonesty, like I'm talking to cultists trying to explain to me that the Earth isn't actually round and the sun and the moon are actually on a roof encasing us all
finna start calling em flat xrders
>>498100082the only person speaking about the topic in bad faith is you cause you don't give anyone trying to earnestly explain to you why they like a game an actual chance.
>>498100224The only comments I've gotten in regards to Xrd being "good" is that on the spot conversions are hard, which is nearly every fighting game. Hell even in Strive getting an optimal conversion off 5P can be difficult if you have old man reactionsI will admit that I am somewhat prejudiced but that prejudice comes from my experience with the game; it's not "bad faith" in the sense that I'm predisposed against Xrd because of "socio-economic reasons", I'm predisposed against Xrd because I've played it and I did not enjoy it so the people talking it up seem like they're doing some Emperor's New Clothes thing to me
>>498100450you should try reading the post you've spent 20 minutes arguing about then
>>498100559I did read it, and I summarized it, and you took umbrage because "god forbid people try and substantiate why they like something"
>>498100450it was never about reacting for conversions lmao, it's about knowing how to convert. conversions can be piss easy simple but the impressive part is knowing that you COULD, thats one of the reasons the old games were so special. you are just refusing to read anything and being willfully ignorant.
>>498100647you seem to be struggling, here maybe this will help
>>498100680I mean this in the politest possible way: what the fuck are you talking about
>>498100450>Hell even in Strive getting an optimal conversion off 5P can be difficult if you have old man reactionsthat venom video has nothing to do with reaction time, baiken is getting hit by like 50 elec balls he could stand there for 1 million years and have time to do something
>>498100772How is a bunch of AI vomit supposed to be helpful
>>498100796I have no idea what Venom video you're talking about
>>498100962>>498099840
neat.
>>498101180OhYeah I'm not gonna bother watching that desu
>>498101223that sj burst bait was pretty sick
>>498101226like i said you just automatically operate in bad faith. you don't want an actual discussion.
>>498100896if you struggle with reading comprehension it might be helpful to have someone help you break the paragraph down into its key points so it doesn't seem as overwhelming, and then you can consider them one at a time before responding, instead of picking a single sentence at random and making up arguments in your head about it
>>498101323I really don't know how to communicate that I am trying to engage in this discussion on the level. Like I said I'm not operating in bad faith>>498101380The thing about AI is that it doesn't actually "break a paragraph into its key points" in the sense of summarizing its main ideas to be more digestible, it just regurgitates wordst. has to grade an undergraduate engineering course where a quarter of the study body obviously uses AI to generate lab reports
why this fucking garbage never comes out on wakeup?
>>498101539in this case regurgitating words is more than enough, it's not supposed to introduce new ideas, just isolate them because you seemed to have difficulty identifying them in the body of a paragraph
>>498101752I understood and even summarized them in my response to the post thoughever
>guy says he doesn't understand why people like xrd>one legit response>a dozen others critiquing motive and method insteadcouldn't have drawn up the shitposts better myself
>>498101951maybe you should read the reply chain again cause all of this niggas questions are being answered and all his replies are just him going>NUH UH
>>498102034
>>498102117stop making her cry
>>498102143shes trying not to laugh
>>498101796You mean "just a bunch of gobbledygook"?In a basic reading comprehension test for grade schoolers that would be considered a total failure and your parents would be recommended to enrol you in special education.
>>498101951>guy asked about xrd balanced>gets answered>guy says xrd was just a one and done mainstage game>gets corrected>another anon earnestly answers how he likes the combo structure in older games and it's relationship with stray hits>retard completely ignores 99% of his post and doesn't even watch the 1 minute video that shows a clear example of what that anon was talking aboutyeah no he's just a faggot
WA shouldn't cost burst. WA should not be canceled into
>>498102250>enrol
>>498102250I'm not taking that shit from someone who said retarded & enrol
>>498102459Wow my non-mentally deficient brain automatically corrected his mispelling. The original post that I was mocking said "retarde,"
>>498101951It's really a fantastic metaphor for Guilty Gear as a seriesPeople that don't play the games are unable to understand them when they watch them on streams, they see things happening on screen and make up their own explanations and assume their mistaken ideas accurately represent flaws in the game, or simply make no effort to understand it and tune out, excusing their lack of understanding by blaming the game for not accommodating them.
>>498102382from where i'm sittin a guy asked a couple good faith questions and the kappachinos immediately defaulted into hurt feelings damage control kek
>>498102618well to each their own i guess, from how i see it the anon was never looking for a conversation to begin with, was just rage baiting the entire time like a true kappachino
>>498102606Honestly it could be avoided if people didn't huff their own farts and assume whichever game they liked was objectively the bestI've seen a fanbase become a victim of itself before but Guilty Gear does it in a way that's really funny
>>498102761no where in that reply chain was anyone saying xrd was objectively the best though, it was just what they liked about it specifically and then it turned into el retardo picking out le bnb/hkd in that whole reply. which was never even the point to begin with.
I lost twenty elo every time I play. Haven't recovered in weeks
>>498102890You don't have to be butthurt, you knowThis is precisely the type of post that makes me think of cultish behavior. Or maybe sacred cow would be more appropriate
>>498102459enrol is the classical english spelling
>>498094567this, also completely unironically
>>498102967>cultish behavioryou are doing what you accuse others of doing
>>498102998"Classical" English can suck my nuts. I will never accept the word color with a u>>498103053How. I'm earnestly attempting to engage in a conversation and people are getting assmad for literally no good reason
>>498102967lets try an exercisewrite an equivalent to the paragraph in >>498098345 about your favourite game, and then contrast the two viewpoints
>>498103110you can't even engage with a 1 minute video
>>498103157Why does talking about Xrd inevitably descend into me being forced to be defensive about my hypothetical favorite game.Why.
>>498103183That video isn't even Xrd
>>498103286the video applies to xrd as well, it's just an example of the stray hits and convertibility from them that older guilty gear games have in common, it's genuinely not a hard thing to grasp and an aspect about the games that someone would like. it's a fucking example. if you want an xrd example just watch the evo grand finals between nage vs omito and any of their interactions will show that.
>>498103221why are you interpreting it as a request to be defensive? That paragraph isn't, it's just describing the positive aspects that anon particularly values. If you're struggling to see the intent behind the choice of important elements and how anon described them, doing a similar thing with a game that you would understand the logic behind the choices for could help.
>>498103402If that's the 2017 EVO finals I have watched thatHonestly though anything with Majin Obama on voice is extremely cringe>>498103484How is this anything other than "let's talk about YOUR favorite game so I can pick apart your argument"? Without fail when I discuss Xrd the conversation boomerangs into "lmao I bet you don't play other fighters xD" like >>498099052 or "oh yeah well what's YOUR favorite game".
>dude watch the nage omito match it's like a hecking animelmao
it is impossible to talk about anything you like on 4chan unless youre on /a/ just give up
I apologize for making fun of xturd I'll associate xturd haters with this guy forever so I'll have to kind of give up on hating it
>>498104002What do you mean
>>498103696I don't want to pick apart your argument, unless you literally lie about a game it's all subjective, you're just describing what it is you like about it, no one can disagree with you about your own opinionsSurely you actually have a favourite fighting game and have thought about why you actually like it, right?
>>498104002this guy just hates anything about guilty gear that isn't strive, he's just your average soiver
>>498104071I enjoyed mixing people with Evil Ryu in SF4 and now that I think about it I've been chasing that high ever sinceIs that to your satisfaction>>498104141I don't, though. I don't know enough about +R to talk about it one way or the other
>>498104394if this is what you think about xrd you might as well think +r is the spawn of satan
i'm really really thinking of throwing the towel and switch from gio to i-noi want my unfair bullshit too, i'm fucking tired of playing street fighter when the most grimy thing i have is a guard crush meanwhile everyone else has every sort of bullshit. I'm sure i would have been much happier if three years ago i picked a more retarded character
>>498104454What I "think" about Xrd is from playing it, dude
oh look they're arguing about xrd again, i just like the game
>>498104496just play slayer
>>498104515But why do you like itI don't get it
>>498104510everything you "thought" about xrd from playing it will just be amplified if you played +r, these are 2 games that are iterations from the same base they are extremely comparable. it's not like from xrd to strive where it's a completely new game
>>498104618it's loads of fun, never gets old
>>498104621Okay I guess
>>498104496Gio is perma-slimed. Just play with your privilege.
>>498104671Okay I guess again
>>498104394no, not really. I don't think you put in any real thought into it. I never played SF4 so I couldn't shitpost about it anyway but surely you can try to say something about why SF4 Evil Ryu is so special compared to all the other characters that mix people. Having a character you click with is certainly a good reason to like a game, but what unique aspects of the game, its mechanics and the character's design made you feel like that?Try actually thinking about it, isolating the specific things that if they were removed or changed would have the biggest impact on your enjoyment of the game, or what specific things SF4 did differently than previous and later SFs that cause you to feel that way about it.
this feels like watching the bedman v roboky fight but robo is retarded
>>498104776I never bothered with Jive because the initial launch was so terrible it turned me off the genre in general until Strive came out, with a little bit of 3S because Jive killed 4I mostly liked it because it was the first fighting game I really put effort into. Which would be congruent with the way people talk about Xrd desu
i like xrd rev2.1 because the characters are all fun and interesting, the interactions feel endless, venom is the coolest character ever made in a fighting game, the system mechanics all feed back into each other so extremely smoothly and i prefer games where it's systems just further improve the characters instead of being solely reliant on them (except danger time but i can ignore that one), i like yrc cause im a psychopath. i just like how old guilty gear feels to play and move around in which is why i also like +r a lot as well (not as much as rev2 but still second to it) i just think it's neat.
>>498105198Are you excited for Strive Venom
>>498105367
>>498099229What a sad post, you'll never be smart enough to see your own hypocrisy and lack of understanding
>>498105198did you take this from reddit
>>498104919That's it?Nothing about the lack of an input buffer, the links, the focus mechanics? Again, I didn't play the game, I'm just saying shit I know people bring up when the game is mentioned.Lets try from the other angle then. Imagine someone did insult SF4, they called it a bad game people only like because of nostalgia and said the actual gameplay and character designs had nothing to do with it. How would you argue against that? What aspects of the game would you highlight to demonstrate that you actually liked it for it's gameplay?
>>498105439no i wrote it myself while playing minecraft and watching this argument from the sidelines
why does jam have visible nipples in her xrd model
>>498105367>>498105409i'll wait until i see how dizzy plays before i start dooming about venom since their gameplay is very similar
>>498105612they're supposed to look like pointy chinese pork buns
>>498105420I will continue to muddle forward trying to understand regardless I suppose>>498105490I would not give a shit about people trash talking SF4. People could bitch about Fuerte, or delay netcode, or links and it all runs off my back like water off a duck. I don't hold it up like some sort of Platonic ideal of fighting games, E.Ryu's lk axe kick combos are just fucking sick so I love it.That's part of the reason I don't understand the Xrd discourse. People like >>498105198 exist and it genuinely fucking mystifies me. I don't understand the origin of the sentiment at all, I kind of understand that poster because they just like the game but in the larger sense I don't understand what part of Xrd that's so apparently magnetic that people slurp its semen online
>>498102618I don't understand how someone can have such a twisted view of the world
>>498105490not him but i do love sf4 (and xrd). they are each my favorite games in their respective series. if someone calls it a bad game i wouldn't really care, people can have their own opinions. if you really want to know why i like those games (over the later games in the series), it's largely due to the higher skill ceiling, how much there is to learn and improve on, the difficulty of them. that's the kind of thing that keeps me engaged and addicted for thousands and thousands of hours of playtime.
>>498105870yeah reddit is kinda fucked
>>498105724I think this detail is tackier than the pantyshots thing>>498105870different people be funny like that
>>498105761genuinely what do you call this branch of autism, like i don't think i can ever think like this, if some zoomer told me they liked fortnite gave me some explanation about how they like the mechanics or whatever the fuck i could understand WHY they like it even if i myself don't. like how does a brain like this function in the every day world.
>>498106004Was there something about my post you didn't understand?
>>498106160yeah, you
>>498106183Did you think this was a sick burn
>>498106236no i genuinely do not understand how someone is just so willing to disregard any and all reasoning an individual can give for liking something, it's a fucking video game
since you're talking about xrd. i liked this sethttps://youtu.be/pFuZypfWrB8?si=LFUo1bWrOUP0fh-H
>"I don't get why people like Xrd">"What?">"I don't get it.">"What?">"I don't get it.">"I don't get why people like Xrd"This is some Bethesda protagonist tier writing.
>>498106395What the fuck are you talking about. There have been two people who have genuinely represented what they like about Xrd and one of them was "dude conversions lmao">>498106501What about my posts do you not understand?
>>498106004>genuinely what do you call this branch of autismnot a branch, just a part of the spectrum but it's not necessary to be acoustic to have that:low empathy, you just don't understand other people as well and are very prone to criticize them and belittle them because you don't understand them, also low emotional intelligencet. emotional retard
>>498106583I'm not "acoustic".
>>498106543>dude conversions lmaoyes older guilty gear titles have a unique sense of convertibility from scramble situations, that is a big reason for someone to like xrd and +r, can you explain to me why you think this is so ridiculous?
>>498106618hence why I wrote>it's not necessary to be acoustic to have thatbut they guy talked about autism so wanted to link into that
I like Xrd because you can see someone do some really cool shit that you have never seen before, and think "Wow, that was cool! I want to do that!" And you can practice and eventually be able to pull it off yourself. That and there's no other fighting game with the depth of character interactions as Xrd/+R from what I have seen. Every matchup plays so wildly different from each other, even matchups between the same characters, but with different players piloting them can look like two completely different games.
>>498105761>People could bitch about Fuerte, or delay netcode, or links and it all runs off my back like water off a duckThat's not quite what I said, I asked how would you respond to someone saying you didn't actually like the game because of the gameplay, how you would try to demonstrate that they were wrong. Can you really not think of anything you like about it besides axe kick combos being cool? Your best description of the things that makes SF4 a good game are "Its the first fighting game I learned" and "Axe kick combos are sick"?Try explaining why you find the axe kick combos so rewarding. They do look sick, but lots of combos look pretty sick. Why E.Ryu doing mix and axe kick combos is different from like, Ibuki doing mix and kunai juggles or whatever she did in 4.
>>498106730>even matchups between the same charactershttps://x.com/fc_ggxx/status/1687161535909842944?s=46&t=6xiKHXScdCDow4WFcLmc4A
>>498106543Thank you for reviving the thread is what I mean to say.
>>498106912wtf this looks sick
I don't understand the type of person who thinks everything said to them is someone else being mad. Is it some sort of projection? Or is it simply lack of understanding? Or spending too much time in a toxic environment where this is the norm?inb4 I'm called mad
>>498107021https://x.com/i/status/1050976468359045120venom is just really cool
>>498106667I don't see how Xrd does that stuff different than, say, UNI does. It didn't feel particularly different when I played Xrd and it definitely didn't feel like some kind of secret sauce that made Xrd good.>>498106743The axe kick combos were fun because an axe kick is objectively the coolest martial arts move anyone could do. That's why I liked them, the dopamine from hitting someone with a cool move + the feedback from hitting the cr.lp link afterwards is what kept me going in the gameIbuki is a faggot character for nerds in comparison who looped kunai setplay.Yes, my description of the things that made SF4 good was that it was my first fighting game and I liked Evil Ryu. Is that a bad thing>>498106943No problem, I think? I'm confused as to why people are getting so hostile over what I'm saying. It feels to me like people are getting upset when I point out they're worshiping a slab of beef
>>498107035I am trying not to be mad but I am getting annoyed at people obliquely commenting that I'm "thinking wrong" or autistic because I don't agree with their opinions
>>498107224UNI isn't really close to GG at all, so your likening of the two as being the same basically killed your argument.
>>498107224because uni has distinct rules about it's combo system that you have to abide by and is practically a check list before you end it. making sure you hit ground hit limit and shit like that. and it being a much more grounded game naturally. guilty gears limit is whatever your character can and can't do within the tech limit. uni's combo system is more like skullgirls than it is like guilty gear just without the constant reset mixups. there is area and room for creativity but for the most part you are going into the bnb for your designated started. while in guilty gear sometimes you have to make sure up on the fly because the hit you got was so weird you can't do any of your normal combos. and the fun is optimizing those situations, it's a big thing people like about the older games.
>>497902974Lobby's closed.+r tomorrow.
>>498107774>sometimes you have to make sure up on the fly because the hit you got was so weird you can't do any of your normal combos. and the fun is optimizing those situationsthis is going to be a foreign concept to people like him that haven't actually played the game. there are countless ways hitboxes and hurtboxes can interact in Xrd and you can convert off of almost anything if you thoroughly know your character's combo theory. being able to do optimal combos on the fly in rare situations depending on the height and distance of the opponent is a skill you develop as you master your character. it's just so fun and rewarding to play.
>>498107774also>t. vatista mainyou can't get more creative with combos like i can
>>498107224>Is that a bad thingI guess not but I have to admit I'm a bit disappointed. I still think you're cutting off your own thought process early but if you're determined to I'm not going to be able to change your mind. Why do you see a difference between Evil Ryu doing mixup into combo into mixup and Ibuki doing it? It can't be as simple as axe kicks are cooler than kunai, they must do something different in the context of the game.Mentioning the feedback from hitting the link is a good start, you'd have liked the game less if it had easier execution, it would have made the combo you liked less rewarding to land. Try thinking about the other implications of the difficult execution requirements. What happens when people mess up? Would the game be worse if they never did? Do you like the way combos and pressure being hard interact with defence and reversals being hard? How hard do you think the game promotes or punishes mashing, and if that changed how would it feel to play? Is Ibuki's kunai setplay gay because it's too consistent? Does it let her bypass the inherent inconsistency of a game designed around tight links, and E.Ryu doing mixups on oki is less gay because he has a chance to drop it?
>>498107774>>498108342The "oh dude you have to play it for a thousand hours and then you'll get it" has never been a convincing argument. I guess I'll install it and give it another 50 hours or so and maybe I'll get it>>498108862Ibuki was gay because my friend played her and he kicked my ass. There's nothing deeper there
>>498109039>There's nothing deeper thereI mean, maybe there isn't, I can't know what goes on in your head, but it's kind of like asking someone why they like their favourite book and they say the cover is cool. They might think they're telling the truth, maybe they picked the book up initially because it had a cool cover and then it became their favourite, but assuming they actually read the book that's probably not the real answer. If they hadn't liked the book, the cover wouldn't have mattered. Something about the words written in it had an effect, they just can't vocalize what it was.
>>497873297Stole May's anal virginity and now her first kiss. Johnny must be furious.
>>498109039>Strivebabby got rekt by a setplay monsterThat explains a lot. You pressed buttons on wakeup and kept getting reset, while in Strive you get bailed out by the wall break. Your inability to learn defense is what's keeping you from enjoying the rest of the genre.
>>498109039i didn't mention anything about having to play for a thousand hours, but the fact is that the design of the game allows you to play for thousands of hours without getting bored.
>>498105870bait
>>498109513I appreciate the attempt to help I guess man>>498109968I'd like to see you block Ibuki with delay>>498110026But none of the thousands of hours is fun
>>498106004it is regular autism or someone addicted to engagement that needs to create discussions, maybe both
>>498110320if you don't find it fun, that's perfectly fine. correct me if i'm wrong, but weren't you asking why others found it fun?
>>498106912holy soul
>>498110698Yes
>>497985489To be honest, Strive only has 3 tiers. Any list that doesn't treat it as such is bullshit.
>>498111061you were given answers. what's the purpose of arguing against those answers? we aren't here to sell you on the game.
>>498111173The only reason I'm arguing is because Xrd players turn it into an argument
>>498111280you were the one that kept asking questions for something as simple as answers to why people like like a game.>a buh buh i just don't understand like why!!!!!!
>>498111448I know this is 4chan and we call each other fag as a term of endearment but why are you angry
>>498111498see>>498107035
>>498111280i simply gave a reason why i like Xrd and you tried to discredit my opinion. you've been doing this same act for a long time now too. what's the purpose of it? you keep asking why people like Xrd for months.
>>498111564I'm not trying to discredit anything, I simply don't comprehend the opinion
>>498111982>I'm not trying to discredit anythingyou literally did>>498106543
>>498111982sounds like a personal problem
>>498112092I guess so>>498112082That's not a rebuttal or an attempt to discredit anything. It's a statement of fact
>>498112157trying to imply that guilty gear doesn't have a unique relationship with conversions compared to other fighters is a clear attempt to discredit how that anon feels about the games.
>>498112253Why are my assertions of fact considered to be discrediting
>>498112330you literally spent multiple posts in this thread trying to say that, uni and other games youve played do the same thing when they literally don't. all because that anon said he likes this specific aspect about the games.>>498100450
>>498112330>one of them gave his reason for liking the game!!yeah that's a fact I guess, but when you act condescending over it that is an attempt to discredit. pretty funny when your reason for liking SF4 was "axe kick looks cool". i guess gameplay related reasons are over your head, otherwise you wouldn't have such a hard time accepting them.
>>498112489That's not discrediting. That just earnest discourse, I didn't say his point of view was invalid I said it wasn't true
>>498112770yes thats why it was an attempt to, you know "trying to" like your post said
>>498112860What is making you so defensive and desperate man
>>498112157>statement of fact
>>498112950see>>498107035
>>498112998Yeah I don't get it either. That's why I'm asking
+R won
>>498113169you never answered why you keep asking why people like Xrd for months on end. it's a strange obsession of yours.
>>498113341Because I'm trying to understand, and the only way to learn is to ask questions
>>498112764See this is what I mean by being defensive and desperateI'm trying my absolute level best to not throw insults or anything. And it's just ohh you're too stupid to understand
>>498113462i think it's time to let this one go champ
It would be one thing if I was saying Xrd was liquid diarrhea and the only people who like it are scat fetishists But I'm just trying to understand why people like the game and all I get in response is snide Soiver comments and how it's 2deep4me>>498113715As long as people are here willing to try and enlighten me I will keep asking
>>498113792any attempt of someone telling you they like the gameplay and trying to explain said gameplay goes completely over your head
>>498114004Yeah because the aspects that are being touted are the same in any FG
>>498114095>i'm totally not trying to discredit anything guys
>>498114148???
>>498114095they're literally not though
>>498114919If you say so man.
guys I did the thing!!!
>>498115176you've never substantiated how other fighting games do the same thing while multiple anons have given you examples and reasonings for why it's unique to gg
>>498115421I literally said that here >>498100450
>>498115608and once again it has nothing to do with reactions
>>498115732Dude I literally asked you to elaborate because what you said made no fucking sense
>>498115372sick
>>498115372I don't know what's going on in the webm but nice
>>498115785multiple people have already said it's about knowing the ins and outs of your characters combo theory, knowing what works and when, which comes from labbing and experimenting. in a game like gg where you are scrambling constantly, and you are getting stray hits that can be converted at a whim with the only thing holding you back is knowing how to convert it. it has nothing to do with reacting, it's about having the knowledge to make the most out of any and all hits. which is something very unique to guilty gear, to the point where i say it defines the old games as a whole.
>>498116076That is literally just any fighting game
>>498115372nice, but turn on air recovery and turn off stun in training mode settings so it won't let you get away with fake combos
>>498116152please show me examples of a fighting game that has the combo convertibility of ACPR or rev2
>>498116152not to the extent of control and freedom that +r or xrd give you
>>498116287like the only one i can think of is MBAACC
>>498116287Literally just go look at UNI or Melty. Gatlings and reverse beat are functionally extremely similar
>>498116413again either you've only played like 3 hours of uni or youre just being disingenuous on purpose, uni combos are incredibly structured in 99% of situations. but i agree melty (SPECIFICALLY AACC) is very similar.
>>498116530I'm not trolling and I have hundreds of hours in UNII'll admit to only having a dozen hours in Xrd but I really think you're overselling it
I guess maybe I shouldn't say overselling it but in my experience all the matches I played were just people routing into HKD so they could run oki. I didn't experience sick combo freestyles or incredible player expression it was just I-no doing HCL VCL note
>>498116194oh fug I didn't notice the fake combo at first. I am so dumb D:>>498115985That's me practicing the aerial potbuster in +R>>498115934thanks. But as anon pointed out, that's a fake combo, so I gotta try harder. +R pot do be hard>>498116287BlazBlue Centralfiction
>>498117985only if youre playing rachel alucard
I would like to point out that of the ~6 claims made in >>498098345 only one of them has been discussedOther aspects of Xrd for consideration:>Freedom, number of options and their availability in many situations, complexity and variety of characters (similar claims consolidated into one point)>Shorter than average combos and fast paced interactions for an anime game>Modern quality of life features, buffers and system mechanics that make it easier to pick up new characters than +r and many older games>Rewards both calculated and crazy plays, has a good mix of scrambles and hard reads and lab monster setups and character specific hyper optimals, rewarding different kinds of knowledge(similar claims consolidated into one point)
>>498118217have you seen the stuff Azrael can do? The character is bonkers in terms of combo potential
>>498101671Deflect Shield for some ungodlily reason has NO input buffer on wakeup
>>498118238the first three are literally strive's selling points kek
Okay, you guys finally convinced me, I'll start playing Xrd and not drop it after a few hours
>>498118462the first one is literally the opposite of how strive plays like
>>498118684alternative play says otherwise my friend
damn that's a lot of tranny infighting lolhavent read one word of it btwxrd sucks, it's a kusogestrive sucks, it's a trannyge
>>498118462If someone said they like Strive for its relatively short combos and ease of picking up new characters I wouldn't think they were wrong. If they said they like it for its freedom, number of options and complexity, then I'd think they were either shitposting or very inexperienced with anime games.
>>498118983isukaGOD in this general I see
>>498118983#reloadGAWD i see
Isuka is just Reload but a party game and has A.B.A, why did it do so poorly?
>>4980781786 frames are a godsend
too many words in this thread
I want a Hack n Slash GG
Literally why could someone not just open a youtube link and skim through wtf
How come Guilty Gear has no big women?
Big Xrd fan excited to play it for the first time.
>>498128094Justice is huge
>>498124592What is this about?
>>498130873-> >>498101226
button button specialbutton button specialwallbreaksafe jumpbutton button special
>>498131185Oh yeah, that guy was kinda sad. Seemed like he came in with a mission and refused to engage with anything that could make him think differently.
>>498131817I love playing Ky
>>498104739the fuck does this sentence mean?
>>498132758Gio’s dash momentum = drive rush
>>498118462Strive’s selling point is inclusivity and representation.
>>498131817So true
Having to FRC after every combo in strive is a lot harder (and clunkier) to me than gatling flow charts in the older games.
If xrd is so good why did no one play it?More importantly, why aren't you playing it?
>>498142264>If xrd is so good why did no one play it?it was played in tournaments a lot>More importantly, why aren't you playing it?i got off it a couple hours ago, no one plays that crap this early in the morning
>>498142264relatively speaking fucking nobody is playing strive. we should be playing some truly popular shit like league
>>498142264>If xrd is so good why did no one play it?Anime games have always been more niche but it did extremely well for itself compared to others. And even was brought to the minds of non-fg players through normie youtube videos on its animation.>More importantly, why aren't you playing it?I was yesterday/early morning, will probably be again later this afternoon.
>>498142264>if good, why not popularthat is a fallacy, my guy
Loved this ep, the bit when Hawk Tuah tricked Daisuke into saying Hawk Tuah as Sol was awesome lol.
>>4981433522k for a fightan only on steam is not nobody when even tekken can't break 10k, a series everybody knows
>>498143584Never in my post did I say that
why just counter hit? stagger on all hits so i can use my tether more damnit
>nobody is playing strive
>>498144834What did you imply then? >If Xrd was a good game, why did it only have a cult following instead of 20 million steamchartsWere you not equating quality with popularity
>>498144989all Korea
>>498144989why would i play this crap instead of chadlock
>>498145162I was not implying anything. I was asking the question about why xrd's quality failed to capture a strong playerbase.
>>498147463If you’re gonna stay disingenuous, that’s fine. But you need to learn how to format questions better, if you’re not actually backpedaling. I’m not gonna talk about marketing mumbo jumbo or what plebians want to consume.
>>498148869If you're going to call me disingenuous you can at least not dodge the questionI'm sorry I hit a sore spot regarding your favorite game
>>498147463I think most of it has to due with marketing. If a hypothetical Guilty Gear 5 played similar to Xrd with a similar visual style and similar character design, I feel like it would have done similar to Strive. After the success of DBFZ and praise for Xrd's animation style spreading through word of mouth, I feel like any Guilty Gear game would do well but it was simply not Xrd's time. It would also be important to not be an updated version but rather an entirely new game as it seems non-fighting game fan audiences respond better to those. So it would obviously have to be different enough to make it clear that it's something new but the point of the hypothetical is for me to say that Xrd's style and gameplay wouldn't hold it back in a different environment. So the time it was released and marketing gave it a worse chance to succeed.>>498150178I kinda regret answering the question seeing you act like this, but I already typed it up so I might as well post it anyway.
>>498142264People are playing it right now. Contrary to popular belief of non fighting game players you don’t need 50k players to get a 1v1.
https://www.twitch.tv/ifcyipesPoolsCan someone please cut Saint Cola's mic?
Something I was thinking about is the new dragon ball game did really good, but it’s not boring like strive. Strive would’ve done better if they kept the fun things the old games had while they were making the execution easier, instead of making it both easy and boring. I don’t think any other series made such a mistake as they did with the movesets and mechanics.
damn the dude yesterday really got the xrd 'cord riled up
>>498147463quality without a brand almost never translates into becoming a mega hitthat is some clear survivorship biasI mean shit even Rembrandt died in poverty
>>498151596I like most things about the older games over Strive but the controls. It never feels like I get to play the actual game because execution is more archaic. So I agree with this.
>>498153817>RembrandtFaggot took credit for his students' works
>>498154045sauce?
whats up soivers lol
>>498155103Holy outplayed
Did I miss the EWT Xrd stream? I was gonna watch it to try and figure out why people like the game
>>498155103So fucking hype >_<
>>498155284*ECT not EWT sorry I just woke up
>>498155103Razzo is valid to say the least, well played by her. Strive is empowering.
>>498150618Strive did got very lucky in timing to be the first fighting game to inaugurate kind of a new generation meanwhile SF5, Tekken7 and MK11 were rotting but let's not be delusional, Strive simplification was a huge factor in how sucessful it managed to get.No game featuring danger time, weight class wakeup time or blitz shield could be as sucessful as Strive. Guilty Gear was always meant for wide appeal because anyone can see how cool the characters are from just looking at them but the complexicity of the franchise always held back it from becoming a mainstream fighting game.
>>498155103I don’t get the point of the clip. It’s a CH combo into HKD after he lost post wallbreak neutral by whiffing, cross up mix and 100 tension cashout.
Getting oneshot off an unreactable mix is so hype
>>498156134holy fuck you type autistically
>>498156134Facts
>>498156134Yup
>>498156023This. Her and UMISHO are like the ultimate power couple. Relationship goals for sure.
>>498155284why would you watch an US regional stream instead of sets when it was still a main game at majors with peak competition and stakes? It’s almost like you want to hate the game lol
>>498156939I'm not really interested in the play at the super toppest tier, I'm more interested in the folks who willingly dedicate hours to it even after it declined because that's the mindset I don't understand
>>498156734>holy fuck you type autisticallywhere do you think we are?
>>498156134Honestly if Xrd came out during covid/stream era and had a Sajam figure telling everyone that the game is not that hard maybe it would have done decent numbers
Love to see a Testamentnigger humbled.
>>498142264i know many people who played it, considering half of my friend list is people i met on xrd. i have 3500 hours on the game, but don't play it as much these days. mostly because other game genres are taking up my free time, but i always go back to xrd when i need my fighting game fix.
>>498157094https://youtu.be/rnzOQlopVZM?si=tSFnW0Tm2dbg9Drpokay
>>498157748Thanks
>>498157582Axl/Test is the only 8:2 MU in the game.
>>498157941That's Axl/Asuka thoughever
yup, im thinking trans rights won
What should I listen to since Pools commentary is AWFUL
>>498146002because that's not a fighting game
>>498159228The Gravity's Rainbow audiobook.
>>498159708>The Gravity
Sol 2D is bad btw
>>498160821i miss gogetabros
yknow these downs are kinda enjoyable
how do you justify playing a character who gets sub-100 damage off of a HS-normal counterhit>well then why aren't the devs fixing it?
>>498161435who?
The Jack-O Player
>>498161435Damage isn’t everything.
i pray for every johnny main to get leukemia
>>498163686based
uuh why is serial rapist umisho allowed to play at official arcsys tournaments?
>>498164991She's the queen of Guilty Gear.
>>498164991He stopped posting on Twitter for a couple weeks, so nothing happened!
>>498156134>weight classWho's gonna tell him?>blitz shieldIs an infinitely better than wild assault. And easier to understand.I don't believe the complexity of the series held it back as much as the culture around how complex it is has, people get the idea that it's impossible to get into because of the people advertising the game as being insanely complex- people believe this without doing any research on the game's actual mechanics or looking into much more about the game. And things like weight class and differing wakeup timings don't matter to casuals- all that matters is the impression that something will be easy to get into- Strive knew this which is why the made the risc gauge so much harder to notice, it doesn't matter if the mechanic of risc is there or not, all that matters is that a new player doesn't get the impression that there's too much happening. This is done almost entirely through marketing, Strive was marketed a simple easy to get into game and therefore it's simple- you can entirely ignore how complex the game actually is at high level, you could go into complex topics like how exactly wall damage works but that doesn't matter to a new player because they don't need to understand it similar to how a new player could play Xrd and win against their friend without knowing what blitz even is. Xrd could be marketed as being simple, it even has some nice quality of life details that Strive doesn't have like a symbol appearing when you get hit by an overhead or low while blocking.
Millia players will tell you that Pot is 2-8 btw
>>498166290I don't see how you can say Xrd isn't complex even at a layman's level desu
is axl... good?
>>498167075nigga it’s poolschill forced2eatcement is not a GAWD
>>498167430did you see how retarded that axl player was?
>>498166290Yeah I know Strive had weight class but they removed it during s1 and no one cared.>Is an infinitely better than wild assault. And easier to understand.it's true but WA ressemble slime rush and the point is modern fighting game players just want their retarded neutral skip.I don't know what to say I just agree with you, despite Xrd being harder, Strive still has a lot of complex shit like 1 more RC and Asuka himself is harder to learn than any Xrd character. Strive just hide the complex shit with Slayer winning with 2 touch after round start 2H then Mappa Hunter RRC after wallbreak.
anyone up for xrd? haven't played FGs properly since str*ve came out so i'm rustysteam://joinlobby/520440/109775243217578551/76561198133556745
I hope they gut Slayer in a couple weeks man
>>498168531What region? I haven't played Xrd in a while either, but I could play.
>>498168103The May player was worse. That shit should be free for her
>>498168531Omw I still got another dp in me
>>498167075Poster child of A tier
>>498171432*B tier
If you're Irish and you play Axl doesn't that make you a race traitor
>>497872054>>497902974AC+R LOBBY IS UP.Hosted in: NA west coast.Area: All.Password: None.Player limit: 64EX/SP char: Off.steam://joinlobby/348550/109775243230249402/76561199122921328
What bad matchups does Axl have?What good matchups?
>>498172998axl is 7-3 against people who don't know how he works and 2-8 against people who know how he works
>>498172998bad MUs: dashblocking good MUs: “top tiers in theory”
>>498172290My bad, I'm so used to people making a tier above S.
>>498172998>>498173116Just name 5 characters he has a bad matchup against.
>>498173921He had a bad matchup against Chipp last time I played Chipp, I assume he still does.
>try to play patient, baiting whiffs, optimal combos, garudog setups, memorizing the neutral triangle and the enemy frame data, even wrote down the most common frametraps for each character>lose impotently corner raped vs the likes of sol and johnny>punch walls (broke my skin) and smash coffee cups to the wall (empty thankfully)>neighbors and parents unironically think i'm a psycho on the verge of committing some heinous crime someday (kinda right on the first part)>get frustrated and try something new out of desperation>play like a fucking monkey, 400 apm, dash 5PPPP, mashing 5P in every obvious frametrap despite my common sense telling me not to>start winning against red aura faggotsso this was the secret all along. I'm too passive and i think too much, i NEED to be a total moron in this game. This makes me even more mad
>>498168531ggs. still haven't remembered ram and baiken, but zato isn't too bad. though i autopilot a lot and get caught on the same things.
>>498168531Oh I was about to play but I guess it's closedIt probably wouldn't have been fun anyway
>>498174194were you the one watching? i thought you don't want to play since the seat was free a few times. sorry my hand hurts a bit after a long break from fgs. i'll probably host tomorrow too
>>498174368Yeah I was watching, trying to figure out why people like to play this game. Watched the ECT top 8 linked early and still didn't get it
>>498174368>>498174445And I didn't jump in because I think I would've just sapped the fun from you two playing, didn't want to be rude
>>498174056Passive play only works in Strive if you play a space control character. Otherwise you gotta play the RPS roulette like everyone else
How come you see top players occasionally throw someone and immediately PRC? Is it an OS?
where do they find these fat weird strive commentators
>>498174823The fatter of the two was talking about "walkies" whenever Baiken tethered. So he probably caters for the Strive orgies.
>>498174823They get kicked out of the Chipotle once they're deemed not Halal by the Tekken community and picked up by soivers, who are next down the line.
>>498160040>AHHHHHHHHHHHH
>>498174445xrd was my gateway into the genre and i have tried a lot of other fightans since then, but none other than xx made my stick for long. i just find the moves and mechanics satisfying while the execution barrier isn't too high, so both of them just hit the sweet spot for me.
>>498174693Playing like a bitch and prc just in case they whiff
>>498175360So it is an OS then?
>>498173921Millia, Ram, Gio, Chipp, May, Slayer
>>498175347If you were the I-no player I don't know about the execution barrier being pretty low, I thought the triple p-dive combo you did a couple times was supposed to be really difficult
>puddle.farm is downFinally... I can play the game again.
is this bridget player trans? I can't even tell these days...
>>498175807Allegedly.
>>498175620nah, i'm the zato/baiken/ram. dunno much about the execution barrier of ino in xrd, but i heard she's really difficult in +r
>>498172716New invite link cause i accidentally closed the game.steam://joinlobby/348550/109775243234321485/76561199122921328
>>498176497I tried to join but I think the ping is too bad for it.
>try to go for cS fS combo theory muscle memory on the wrong character It’s over
>>498175578>milliareminder that rainwater is in the game
>>498177943No good Millia player thinks he wins the MU. Skill issue desu
>>498175578Slash, the best May in the world says Axl is only even, and that was 6 months ago before the buffs to Axl.
>>498180940He said neutral was not in his favor but okay. Anji then
>>498181920Yayyyy!!! That's 5.
>>498155103wtf I thought cross up cS was reactable. (slayer is the one character who finally made me quit the game, honestly an amazing feat for him to be this OP)
>>498184795. crossup after 2D is a true 50/50maybr you’re thinking about crossup p dandy which is 23 frames iirc
You will see 100 Testaments in pool and not a single one ever in top8 lmao
might get a burger this evening
>>498172716GG. testament seems pretty fun. tho his movelist feels hella bloated.
>>498185163Idom will beat Umisho. I have foreseen it
yo lil soivahs, how does it feel to be the laughingstock of the FGC?
Man Gio is so bad
>>498186395no such thing as fgc, just insular separated communities
>>498186395hey man it is not my fault that the NA anime scene can’t gatekeep freaks I just like playing Pot
damn shine is still around?
>>498188137that's the other shine
>>498188137Well it is an east coast tourney.
I don't think I can play anyone that isn't BaikenEven Ky feels super fucking awkward to play
>>498192726>>498192726what do you mean awkward? Ky is pretty intuitive. Baiken can’t even convert off her fS
>>498193621no tatami, no parry for the easy serotonin rush
>>498193621Not them, but Ky kinda falls apart if they block and fd.
>>498193992You can air stun edge if you want to play lame. Try DPing when you’re minus>>498194140Strike/throw is about conditioning.
>>498194869No one plays guilty gear to strike throw.
>>498196027Bro Ky is the most played character.
>>498196450If they want me to strike throw with Ky then they should give him better tools to stick to the opponent like Gio.
>>498197109His dash speed is fine. You don’t need to stick to the opponent like glue to open them up
Yo, it's that rapist!
>>498197498The detection on his c.s needs to be further6K needs to be faster.When those change, then I will strike throw.
>>498198060Agree to disagree. Dash cS and 6K work on my machine and feel fun to land
Where the fuck are all the Mays?
>>498198528No. Agreee to Agree. Stop ageing aginst buffs when it benefits you. I am right. Ky sneeds it.
>>498198673LK is farming points in puerto rico
>>498198673She's so good that everybody learned the matchup inside and out so it's now actually a disadvantage to play her, but she's still top 1.
can you react to johnny high low mist finer mixup? Considering he has to do a jc into mf don't you have enough time to see it? What about fuzzy block? Can't be arsed to lab right now.
>>498198954*ageing arguing
>>498198954>benefits you You seem to have a different mindset. I like playing a game of chicken.
>>498199308You can not.
>>498199308You definitely can't react to it, I don't know if you can fuzzy it.
>>498199308You can fuzzy the high. He has to delay 2H.
>>498199506where is 2H in that mixup?
>>498199790cS j214S is gapless cs 2H is just part of his blockstring
this domestic violence matchup is kinda kino
>>498199993UMISHO v Razzo is on?
>>498200064nah anji vs baikeni guess when dizzy comes out we'll have another one too
Instead of just Slayer and Nagoriyuki being vampires everybody should be vampires. They could call the game Vampire Rescuer or something.
I thought Anji was supposed to be better than bottom 2 Baiken.
>she fell for load knights liesoh no no no no no sisters
This nigga lookin' PERSPICACIOUS, this nigga lookin' ASTUTE, he's got the noggin joggin, he's got a sharp mind, he's a Ill bit brainy, he deliberates carefully, he ponders in silence, this nigga on the fence, this nigga cogitating, this nigga gonna see your mix and that shit gonna get downloaded! This nigga reads books, this nigga logical, this nigga be an intellectual, this nigga on his toes, this nigga racks his brains, his gears are turning, his thinking cap never comes off, he loves to deduct, he's a one man think tank, he indulges in dilemmas, he's mulling over, he's weighing his options, he's sharp as a stack, his wits are nimble, his mind is a symposium, he's calculating, he's "one of them" if you catch my drift
>>498201683I don't have a problem with Lord Knight but why does he do these retarded tier lists instead of just giving them number grades like a normal human being.
that test color is kinda hot
Seeing as he realistically isn't going to get Dragon Install back, I think it'd be cool if his new move is a 22H where he goes into the DI pose and you can follow up with one of his specials and it'll be the enhanced DI version. Kind of like Giovanna having the command dash buff her moves, it feels like such a noticeable gap in his moveset for him to be missing what was always one of his most memorable moves and if they're not going to give it back to him but they are going to be giving him some new move, I think this would be a cool one.
>>498201929I mean isn’t it better that is it less abstract? Like what is the difference between an A or B tier in Strive. At least with these names you understand that is it about consistency, good match-up charts and being knowledge check heavy even if he’s wrong. “This character can only fuck you up if you play this specific character or haven’t labbed the MU because their irrelevant”
>>498202857*they’re irrelevant
>>498202857>Like what is the difference between an A or B tier in Strive.B-tier = my main: honest and skill-based, but not bottom tier because I'm not a contrarian retard who picks the worst characters in the game for an easy excuse when I lose.A-tier = your main: dishonest, carries the player, the symbol of a man who has no faith in his skills, and rightfully so.
Deal (feint)
can Slayer do any gimmicks if he gets a short wall stick after pilebunker or is his turn done if they tech
we need strive 2 at this point. The base has proven to be successful but boy there is so much stuff to add and polish season passes are not enough.If they are not stupid they will make a full sequel or revision while the iron it's hot instead of fragmenting their fanbase with another dumb licensed game.But they are retarded so it will be something really fucking stupid like a ninja turtles fighting game
>>498204727strive rev2; button button ex-special
>>498204860It's called a Force Break in these parts sweetie
okay, hear me out: Metaphor Refantazio Arena
>>498204727>they will make a full sequel or revisionlol lmao Just accept that the Strive era will end after S5. The CEO said their focus will shift to license fighters and BB in the future
>>498205335no one ever mentioned bb. Enjoy your mobile game and stay in your corner
>>498205535Bro, you were coping about their next project not me. I’m just copypasting Kidooka.
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>>498205872i look like this irl
>>498205820CEO (raughs) only said about wanting to focus on western licences, no one has ever mentioned blazpoo
More Baikens (bottom 2), still not a single may. Lord Knight is a nigger in both senses of the word
lord knight is nubian elite
>>498206359lk isn't nubian, retard
LordKnight suplexed Low Tier God for saying Persona 4 Arena is for Darnell BBC Jr niggas
>>498206102The producers hinted at an japanese IP that westerners liked. The CEO said to IGN that a BB fighter will come out once the team can create an impressive leap in visuals like Xrd. I don’t why BB gets you this worked up lol
Lord Knight is patient zero of the tranny cabal's HIV strain.
>>498205335It seems unlikely that Arcsys will ditch their cash cow desu
>>498206456ancestral nubian warlord blood flows through his veins
>>498206705Miyauchi has spin-offs planned. Don’t worry, sis
>>498206584>The producers hinted at an japanese IP that westerners likedwell then it's not gonna be bb lmaoit will probably be some shonen shit like naruto or bleach, hopefully one piece or jojo. I pray to allah it won't be jujutsu caca
>>498207057>hopefully one piece
>>498206823Yeah that's what I'm saying. Strive has an anime coming even
Load Knight killed my dog with his bare hands and told me the animal got what it deserved for having an owner who was too weak to defend it.
>>498207302temee
>>498207302not him but the artstyle has grown on me at least the characters designs are diverse and expressive and Oda writes fun devil fruit powers applications while even HxH has to scrape the barrel for main character movesets
I-I've never made a n-new thread before
>>498208595Let's keep it that way.
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>Chipp takes a lot of damage against Nagoriyuki>chat acts surprisedWhy does this still surprise them?
i think after 3 years i've finally figured out a way to sum up why strive is unfun to play in 10 words.>you have to guess, other player only has to reactthat's it. nothing else, nothing more. even on your own offense you lose if you guess wrong
Why does Gio rager complain about Johnny vs Gio? Her buttons seem pretty good in that MU
how is razzo in losers with this busted ahh toon
>>498212021oh damn i can't read
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