Wish you were here EditionPreviously on /coopg/: >>497900657This general is for cooperative games, titles which need more than one player and requires them to work together to win. Examples include: Vermintide, Darktide, Deep Rock Galactic, Helldivers ect.>Latest News/Updates:Darktide: Hotfix #48 (1.5.1) Patch Noteshttps://store.steampowered.com/news/app/1361210/view/4653997209644504997Vermintide 2:Lore Post: Skaven Chronicles part 1https://steamcommunity.com/games/552500/announcements/detail/4574056414664507550?snr=2___Helldivers 2:Patch 1.001.102https://steamcommunity.com/games/553850/announcements/detail/4679892274020252125?snr=2___Wartracker:https://helldivers.io/Info:https://divers.ggDeep Rock Galactic:https://steamcommunity.com/app/548430/allnews/Space Marine 2: Patch 3.0https://store.steampowered.com/news/app/2183900/view/4696781406109497749Payday 3:https://steamcommunity.com/app/1272080/allnews/Remnant 2:The Dark Horizon DLC releasing SEP24:https://steamcommunity.com/games/1282100/announcements/detail/4657374275884538366?snr=2___Earth Defense Force 6https://steamcommunity.com/app/2291060/allnews/>Acknowledged but not really discussedReady Or NotStarship Troopers ExterminationAliens: Fireteam EliteKilling Floor 2Left 4 Dead 2SCP: 5KGTFOThe Forever Winter>Future gamesDen Of Wolves - TBADarkSwarm - TBABlight: Survival - TBABuild planners:Vermintide 2: http://ranaldsgift.com/Deep Rock Galactic: http://karl.gg/Darktide: https://darktide.gameslantern.com/build-editor
kill smykers
nerf revolvers
>shooting the flamethrower in Starship Troopers Extermination for too long will blind you for a little bitI don't need eyes to feel the warmth of the dead
>78%I'm gonna start buying greys
>>498112653>check game>it suddenly costs moreyeah fuck that
>>498115114I'm only really messing around in it because I got it before they bumped the price up a bunch "because it hit 1.0"
>1HP zealot saltz>GUYS NEVER HEAL ME I GET BUFFS WHEN I"M LOW (has been downed and is on his last wound)>*ZOOM ZOOMS OFF ON HIS OWN*>*gets touched and dies*>WTF DID YOU GUYS ALL WANDER OFF???!?!?!>the entire rest of the party was within arms reach of each other"buffs when low on HP" is too hard of a concept for the average retard.Wish we would have had a warrior priest instead. WPs are chads that refuse to die. Zealots generally are the epitome of "play stupid games, win stupid prizes." Which is hilarious since zealot is also undeadable if you play him with even just an ounce of self preservation instead of just face tanking everything.
>>498115702>Wish we would have had a warrior priest instead.anon...
>Dorktide>Join damnation game>It feels like there's infinite horde 24/7 with massive conga lines of ragers backed up by 20 crushers>Next damnation game is has none of this shitWhy is damnation so fucking schizo? Are people running modded lobbies or something?
I play auric damnation and just throw on whatever random drop I have that looks fun at the moment. I don't minmax my weapon stats or bother rerolling perks.All the cute zealots and psykers go down for me.
>>498115818What are you trying to imply? I'd rather have a WP saltz in my party any day of the week than a zealot saltz. Most zealots don't know how to play or dodge or block. They just faceroll and hope that their low HP buffs let them outrace the incoming damage with their THP generation. Then they eat shit when they bit off more than they can chew. What's worse is they're allergic to even considering to heal even at times when they're lacking THP, their passive is on CD, and it would be prudent to do so. I've seen so many eat shit and die for their greed.
>>498115702zealots are the 'fucking around and surprised when they find out' class.
>>498116124I took your post to mean fatshark messed up making saltzpyres third career a zealot and that they should've made him a WP instead and it was such a funny thought I didn't consider the alternative
>>498115840missions have seeds, sometimes the director goes ham
>there is a magos biologis wandering tertium for some reason, related to Hadronoh, so they ARE going to explain her weird, supple, young, handjob-ready hand
I'M STEEEEEEEEAAALFFFFFING!!!! *dies in a corner 3 miles away from everyone else*
There is a shrine of harmony before the finale. Should I buy "THP is true HP" boon to piss off zealot?
>>498117760>follow a guy in>realise he was in stealth>he leaves
>>498118583Sienna beat me to it.
>>498119582>>498118583Saltz ended up taking more damage than the rest of the team combined.
why every damn post on this general is to complain about shitters on auric lobbies? aren't you guys supposed to have everything unlocked and maxed by now?what other reason to play besides limit test your builds and skills ? winning is just a plusplaying with a good squad is just too fucking boring also wasn't avatarfagging bannable?
>>498119929Who do you think is avatarfagging
>>498119929Sorry my cute zealot bf posts here (he takes the game very seriously)
>ME GOOD>tEAM BAD>EXCEPT ME. ME GOOD>SHIT PANT>sCREAMSKREEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE THIS TEEEEEEEEEEEEEAAAAAAAAAAAAAAMtru stori btw
Play outlast trials
>>498119929Leaving aside general antisocial autism, it gets fucking tiresome needing to make every build a jack-of-all trades. Test your builds and skills? Sure that sounds great. Just make sure that build can readily handle hordes, ragers, carapace, bosses, disablers, gunners, and snipers because you sure as shit can't trust teammates to do it for 10 seconds while you work a terminal. It reaches the point where Tide games have this mantra that you're a bad player if you specialize. Teamwork is nonexistent. So I'm going to complain about my team and you are going to read it.
>>498121394>somehow there are people that take all the ammo>take all the healing>cannot do an objective to save anyone's life>queued up for a difficulty>cannot handle anyrthing without helpits not even that fun at that point because i cant tell if theyre tryingits soullessits like a 7% minority though
When will they drop the dumb fomo shop and just put everything on sale?
this sucks!
>>498121946right around when you stop buying things in this dogshit system, validating it, so never>>498122027use camouflage, get a single headshot kill to keep you pinned at 10 stacks, swap to melee
>>498121140I don't know anything about the game, and in general I don't like jumpscare games.
>>498122027It doesn't specify ranged kills, just any kills. You can crouch with camouflage and use a power sword or whatever horde clear you have to rack up easy kills. It still takes a while though.I Cheesed it by using the Many more try to get into an empty high intensity heresy mission with the train station assassination, and intentionally just left the repair node event never finish and let the bots die off so i could farm an infinite amount of kills as fast as possible. It's also how I cheesed shocking stuff as well. as fast as possible because it felt like shocking stuff was impossible even in auric maels because everything was killed too damn quickly
I want to finish the psyker penances, but they seem a little silly and definitely designed for before this update. Pushing a bunch of things off a ledge seems annoying and I'm not sure where to do that since my pushes seem to only move things several inches. The several brain burst challenges seem borderline impossible since brain bursts alone can't kill dogs from full (or at least from these old breakpoints I'm looking at), and doing 50% of the hp of a monster doesn't sound fun. What I really want is the 4k reward from the penances, so maybe I should just make an ogryn and finish some more zealot challenges since I'm sitting around the 2500~ mark.
>>498122027Don't listen to that other retard, take the crouch perk and crouch walk through a few missions.
>>498123313>Pushing a bunch of things off a ledgeHab block ending when you get on the pipes and the enemies drop from above
>>498122027You must choose>master a new playstyle and get hundreds of ranged kills per mission>drag your ass along the carpets of atoma for 5 missions like a dog
>>498123313>doing 50% of the hp of a monster doesn't sound funIt's actually pretty decent now. It used to be 100% and brain burst used to be much worse. Now you can make a build that can burst down a boss to below 50% pretty quickly.
>>498123313Read the boss penance again, it's private lobby only lmao.Hope you have friends, because fatshark still hasn't given us the option to just go into a private lobby solo, for reasons still unexplained while also making a lot of the legacy griefing penances private only.
>>498123770Will try to remember that when that mission swings around>>498123915>>498124021Fatshark really hated Psykers before, didn't they?
>>498122027you could crouch walk and melee and play like a retard because you don't understand the keystone, or you could grab a recon lasgun or infantry autogun and play doomguy, the choice is yours
>>498122027crouchwalking+powersword is the easiest way to do itdo a lot of crabwalking side-dodging
>weekly CW expedition>zealot saltz is fucking around>is at 1HP>begs merc kruber to heal him with his shout skill>kruber makes a distinct decision to not use the skill unless Sienna or I (OE bardin) need it>we're both good at staying up in the fight and don't need the extra THP>activate a chest of trials>RATLING GUNNER SWARM>saltz gets hit by 1 bullet and gets downed>his corpse is completely exposed in no-man's land since he didn't move to a defensible position like the rest of us did when we activated the chest>his body gets mag dumped to death>he had a medkit the whole time.That match was fun. We all started going out of our way to use the lifeshare potions.
>>498124169The game was previously balanced around malice, where there weren't all that many armored enemies and BB could one shot specials before the skilltree reworks. Fatshark stubbornly insisted that most people weren't actively playing on damnation yet and the balance was at best a funny meme for the first year, psyker's BB was one of the things that FS insisted was 'fine' despite not holding up in damnation for anything other than the dedicated sniper removal tool.With empowered psyionics and a few other nodes it's actually fairly servicable now, but yes, psyker got the short end of the stick for a year and a half.
>>498126095>psyker's BB was one of the things that FS insisted was 'fine' despite not holding up in damnation for anything other than the dedicated sniper removal tool.reminder that they insisted on this because of j_sat streaming himself corner sniping specials in Damnation and swearing that made it OP because of how peril management used to work
So is Zola actually Grendyl or what?
>>498126863That would be pretty retarded if true.
>>498126095>With empowered psyionics and a few other nodes it's actually fairly servicable noIs just needs one small thing — guaranteed charge should proc not only on elites but on elites + specialists. This would finally make BB consistently good.
>>498126095BB will never be serviceable because you forfeit Malefic Momentum
>>498126863There's multiple ways that wouldn't make sense.Zola is just a local.
>>498127315>non-warp based killI sleep. You're not a space wizard.
I need a Mechanicus class purely so blasting Noosphere during a horde is thematically relevant.
>>498126863Zola's a Tertium local (genestealer, no visible mutations)Grendyl is Swagger
>>498127467So you just never melee? Spotted the smigger.
>>498127523Zola can't do anything wrong because she has a vagina
>>498127556a bio hole or chop job?
>>498127538I melee with my +60% strength every 5s axe when needed. Otherwise I staff like a real space wizard.Smiggers don't use BB, see that's the same slot as BB. I see you don't play space wizard.
>>498127638But you wouldn't take a literal 20% damage increase?
>>498127674Malefic Momentum is a literal Smigger skill, it's not on the BB side.I SEE YOU DON'T PLAY SPACE WIZARD. NIGGER.
>>498127760Which is why BB is ass, you forfeit a 20% damage increase. Try to keep up.
>>498127808>damage increase on damage lossWOW holy shit. I should totally UHHH not get that.You will never be a real space wizard. Nigger.
Is this guy retarded or something?
>>498127890You have no staff. You have no brainburst. You will never be a real space wizard.Children will point at you and say "isn't that a veteran?"
Oh, he is.
>>498127624Latter.
>>498127989"Mommy why is that man wearing robes and yet he doesn't use a staff"
uh oh melties
>>498128078Why don't you just play a veteran if that's what you really are?Space wizard have long staffs to stun all the bitches, and brain burst.
>>498127315I mean comparatively to what it was before, it is very much serviceable for deleting the odd special here and there by itself instead of being a literal pure meme. It might gimp your tree for what you use it for, but BB by itself is fine with psyionics IMO.
wizards are gay, I use my magic to enhance my ability to blender enemies in melee
>>498128245Maybe then play uhh a vetranny.Wizards are talking.
I am...a martyrdom thunder hammer femzealot with the fanatic voice...
>>498128298*scrier's gazes you*
>>498128313Science nerd bitches need to figure out how to make rats live 10 years longer NOW
>>498127808BB is extremely good if you build for it. MM is good depending on your play style but the value of damage increase usually hinges on whether or not it gives you some breakpoints.
>>498128245>that thing is gay says the paypig gaylord
>>498128636jelly
>>498128245>ASS titlestay out mi aurochs
>>498128551That's hyperbole, it is not "extremely" good.
>>498128245why are you wearing a furry fart fetishist helmetwhy did you pay money to wear that
>>498128707it sure can be if you stack cast speed and EP
Dump stat on plasma gun?
>>498128776Vet with shout and plasma is extremely good, BB is nowhere near that category
>>498128821charge rate
>>498128776Surge machine gun is "extremely good". BB still can't compete with that even with all support possible.
>>498128932We've gone from >smite is stronger than BB because you can get a temp damage boostto>spec your psyker into veteran's shout
>>498129080Nobody said anything about smite you schizophrenic retard.
>>498128692The other titles are all shitty pleb ones>>498128754Because it looks awesome and sounds freaking sweet >>>/wsg/5704877
>>498129137Desu when I see ASS title, I instantly assume it's the most dogshit player I'm going to see in that lobby, because 95% of the players who use it cheated it with reconnect mod
>>498129137>looks awesomelol>sounds freaking sweetI have voice modulation off, sweetie
>>498129209>I have voice modulation offWhy, because every time you heard if you were jealous that you didn't have a cool helmet?
>>498128932>>498129000uhm actually vet with shout and plasma is "OP" which is more than extremely good. This type of conversation always ends up in semantics land. It's pointless.
>>498129191>paypigged>A.S.S.>gamer keychain>hazards framethat last one tells you all you need to know, it is the most accessible and least meaningful one he could've picked
>>498127808If you want 0-20% damage increase and avoid getting smite which is not a great ability then you can't get wildfire which you're griefing if you don't get. So you end up being assailtard with no wildfire. You also need to get 1 extra defensive stat node in order to get there, while wildfire has minus peril gen node before it. So it's 2 talent points for 0-20% damage increase which requires setup and will do virtually nothing against a boss for example.Additionally, if you go BB and can't get 0-20% damage increase then you free up points you can invest elsewhere - it's not like psyker lacks good talents to get.
>wildfire>good
>>498129278I wear a cool mask that just muffles my pretty fem fanatic's voice, so it's worthless to me to have it on. Also I don't care for how unintelligible your dogshit voice filter is.
>>498129367You don't have to be this insecure on anonymous imageboard.
>>498129191It would be nice if you could see the date that I earned it, because mine was from like the third or fourth day after the update.>>498129318I have different frames on all my different loadouts, I just think the hazard frame goes nicely with gasmasks.
Smite is better than BB and I'm tired of pretending it's not. Just because there are retards that use it wrong doesn't mean it's bad. Same with Gunlugger, Exec Vet and Stealth Zealot. /copeg/ is just full of absolute meta whore shitters who can't think for themselves.
can you guys talk about shredder nades instead?
yeah smite is the best pick. its like zealot concussion grenade you can go some games never using it but sometimes it saves the run
>>498127808>>498127674>But you wouldn't take a literal 20% damage increase?Because it's not a literal 20% damage increase. You have to kill 5 dudes before switching weapons. When shit goes down it's not like I'm gonna sit and count to 5 before switching and take out a sniper or bomber. Over a whole mission the end result might be closer 12% damage increase in total. But like someone else said if it doesn't help you reach any breakpoints then what's the point. I'm not saying it's bad but it's by no means mandatory.
>>498129320Arguing that a flat 20% damage increase across the board is worse than WILDFIRE is just so braindead I can't even. Moreover if you go BB you spend MORE because you have to spend an extra point to get to the right side where the good talents like Souldrinker are.
>>498129395>>>/wsg/5704881
>>498129617I already don't have to listen to you in game, I'm not clicking your links.
>>498129483Nobody ever said it was bad, the problem has always been that it's TOO strong.It's literally the same level of space creation as ogryns frag nuke for free.
>>498128313>>>/wsg/5697060
>>498129614Because killing 5 dudes with Purg/Trauma/Void/Shriek and switching to melee is SOOOO difficult. I'm at max stacks the entire mission. Were you also aware that force sword special kills count as warp kills? Probably not.
>>498129570>play ES vet>have all grenade regen talents>whenever enemies get near I chuck 2 shredders at my feet and go back to shooting>have them both back up in a minute>can gun down crushers no sweatFeels good playing vet the way he was meant to be played.
>>498129483You're arguing with ghosts anon. No one said smite wasn't good. Most anons think it's too good.
>>498129483>SmiteYeah it can work, but when you lock up a crusher/bulwark stack, which it has 0 hope of actually killing or even reasonably damaging, it's at that point that you're asking your team to beat on dummies, and that's boring as fuck, but the temptation to do it will build the longer you bring smite.>GunluggerShould be nerfed.>Exec VetShout is strong enough that it's a crutch and taking exec vet is a point of pride, I should think. It's stealth vets that are the weirdos.>Stealth ZealotI can't find a good way to swing this in crit builds without losing good nodes, but there's nothing wrong with it. Again, I think you missed the mark here and the ability of ridicule is Chorus.
>>498129735I'm just saying it's conditional. And you're ignoring the concept of breakpoints.
thinkgen about joining chaos bros... that lad tanked a thunderhammer to the face and is pretty chill about it
>>498129615>a flat 20% damage increase across the boardIf it would be a flat 20% damage increase with no conditions, it would be worth it, but it isn't, and since you're being dishonest and clearly care more about winning an argument on anonymous imageboard over being factual and reasonable, I see no point in continuing this discussion because your opinion no longer has value, you will just keep lying, moving goalposts, etc.
>Do I want to do 20% damage after wasting time killing five dudes in melee or kill mixed armor all the time without stoppingHARD CHOICE.I'll tell you the answer: it's not worth it for staff.>HOLD ON BRO I CAN'T ZAP THE 5 CRUSHERS I GOTTA RUSH INTO MELEE WITH THESE GUYS FOR 25 SECONDS>BRO WHY ARE YOU DEAD BRO WHAT THE FUCK I GOTTA GET MY BUFF BRO
>>498130005Meeting the condition is so trivial it may as well not exist which was the point. You don't actually know how to play Psyker so I welcome your forfeit.
>>498130051And that's why everyone blocks you after the game
>>498129989
>noooooo don't shoot the glowing head it's my kill I brought BB pleeeeeeeease stop kill stealinglmao why would you bring an ability that deals 0 damage?
>>498130105
>>498130226Post your drip NOW
>>498130012This.I have a build where MM is mandatory, but that's for Assail and Scriers with unbound. I scriers into melee, get at least 5 kills, then during the lingering effect I release all assail sharts, and because of the 20% increase they reach new breakpoints and start one shooting enemies instead of 2 shotting.
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>>498130012This post is so idiotic and disingenuous I can't even wrap my head around it.
>>498129570i did not care for shredder nades until recently but they're very fun
>>498130367I bet you can't vetranny
>>498130280That was my Martyr outfit. I never got too much use out of it.
>>498130420don't know why that tooltip's there but it's just always prepared at the bottom
>>498130420>no confirmed kill??????????????
it's really annoying marksman focus stacks are lost on movement because it means you're bound to lose dmg against bosses when they chase you
>>498130367Time spent going into melee to get MM stacks, is time spent not shooting your staff. When there's a huge wave you don't want your staff-blasting to be put on hold.
>>498130356
>>498130545>ranged weakspot hits lets you move without losing stacks for 3shmmmmm
>>498130463why do you pig
I want to play as a hobbit sniper
>>498130631>boss goes around a cornerHmm hmmmm.
>>498130591
>>498130684outplayed :^)
>>498130684how does it go around a corner if it's chasing you?
>>498130516i need maximum draw speed
diff 5 is retarded today
>>498130696>>498130591>>498130356>re-used skull assetsLAZY SWEDES REEEEEE
>>498130696
>>498130807
>>498130807>>498130915they're just like you and me :)
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>>498130682I want to play as a female shortstack with a completely incomprehensible gaelic accent, and freckled shoulders and breasts.But in all seriousness, if they do add these little fuckers they better not to a charge firing mechanic with a las fusil. I fucking hate charge firing mechanics. Please, for the love of fuck, just give them a bolt sniper.
>>498131032the charge mechanic should be a delay AFTER shooting. Not a hold-trigger-to-charge.
>>498131032the hellbore has weight of fire
>>498131030
>>498131107like plasmano clue why they didn't do the same for helbore, they are such a pain to use
if you wanna get mad at skill trees then behold
>>498131157Everyone who uses Helbore is a total weirdo and I respect it. Please join my aurics
>>498129685rude
>>498131032>They're called ratlings>They're just fucking halflingsFucking makes me spit in disgust every time.
>>498131243delete this postget this shit away from me
>>498131383no*holds down right mouse button for an entire minute, dies to the crusher when the stunlock ends*
>>498131145
>>498131365I'm not prepared for what unholy things would happen if darktide were to add anthropomorphized ratsGungryns are already pushing the limit oh "wholesome chungus reddit retard thinks he's the main character of this match," and they already shit things up enough as is.A gun focused rat furry would probably be the death of the game
>>498131493>noooooo these people make memes
>>498131465
what is peak caffeine darkshit gameplay and why is it fanfire revolver scriers assail psyker DD critmaxed out of their fucking mind?
>>498131604who are you quoting?what are you quoting?
>>498131609
So what do the femboys run on knife as vet?
>>498131715(You), but in a compressed format.
>>498131493Rats? The only sanctionned furries are cats. Sgt Meowers will save Atoma.
>>498131760ask their lord Tranner
>>498131760you mean blessings? or talents?
>>498131848blessings
>>498131760Mercy killer + either flesh tearer or precog, depending on if you have the serrated blade talent or not.
>>498131975>mercy killer with serrated bladeyeah that makes sense
Survivalist aura should be replaced. It is an unhealthy and unnecessary crutch.
>>498132698no
>>498132698I don't even use it anymore. I dropped it for one more point to spend in the bottom row
Shitters will rage at my lightning staff
>>498133483>lightning staff without crit nodesGonna bonk your enemies to death with it then?
>>498133873I notice posts like this never come with a build because it's so shit they don't want it to see daylight
>>498133984You already posted one
>>498134043Go back to school, learn to read. I bet they'd take pity and take you in.
>>498134082I should've been more clear. You already posted a build that's so shit nobody would want it to see daylight. Hope this clears things up
>>498134295No no no, you started this.Post those crit nodeS please.
>>498134348>you started thisI clearly didn't. You did.
>>498134483Are you STILL feverishly looking more than that ONE that ruins the entire build?Oof. Better close the thread and go cry about now.
>>498133483>wildfire>no souldrinker>no fire reborn???you realize wildfire does next to no additional damage, the only utility it has is enabling other soulblaze talents
>>498134546You're being incomprehensible now. I will stop replying. Good day to you, sir.
>>498133483this is so ass what the fuck
>>498134625Jesus Christ no wonder people hate psykers.YOU WANT TO KILL THIINGS WITH SOUL BLAZE INSTEAD OF IT BEING HOLY FUCK what a retard.HOLY SHIT.>>498134630>>498134751AAHAHAHave you been this retarded without my help redditors?
>>498134897instead of it being?
>>498134625>you realize wildfire does next to no additional damage, the only utility it has is enabling other soulblaze talentsYou realize it's about BUILDUP of more soulblaze you fucking retard? You have 4 floor, you get more on top of that. You understand that right?>>498134956Now you stopped speaking english completely.God damn I buck broke you.
>>498135029I'm asking you to complete your sentence, in your seething you forgot to type it out and panic posted a reply
>>498135113Here's what you're saying: wildfire does no damage so take three dots away that require said talent to kill enemies.ARE YOU FUCKING RETARDED you fucking retard?
>>498135029oh no no no this retard doesn't know how wildfire works>>498135175any enemy affected by soulblaze dying counts as a soulblaze killyou really do not know anything about psyker, as evidenced by your complete ass builds like holy shit I thought they were a joke at first
>>498135279Oh now you're merely pretending.Next, in fire reborn is ACCORDING TO YOU better than, not only you, but ANYONE in your team killing anyone.Holy shit you quell so much for no damage.>any enemy affected by soulblaze dying counts as a soulblaze killYes, that is how WILDFIRE works, you got what one talent does
>>498129836I like that Veteran gets the shout crutch for 99% of players so I can feel cool when I use executioner and clear the room of shooters
>>498135425which is why the only reason you would want wildfire is to spread soulblaze to trigger souldrinker and fire reborn more often, wildfire itself provides no additional damage and doesn't kill anything, it's just there to apply soublazehow are you struggling to understand this?
>>498135029>You have 4 floor, you get more on top of thatMein Anon.....
>>498135425>blast a horde with blazing spirits trauma>or creeping flames shriek>or purgatus>or kill a single elite among them>entire horde is now on fire>every mob dying has a 10% chance of granting a stack, instead of 4%>don't even need to be in coherencyyeah, fire reborn is better if you knew how to play
>>498135610You'll learn to play one day, post that build.>>498135658When anyone dies, everyone around them gets 4, it builds on top of that. Can you read yet?>>498135757Told you can't read. Thank you for proving my point.
>>498135995It is very cute how you actually believe Fatshark skill descriptionsNotice how during all of this you haven't used a single logical argument? You just continuously seetheOh well it was fun for a couple of minutes
>>498136075Show your build so the world can laugh at it, please
>>498136169laugh at this one i demand feedback>>498131243
>>498129483Your premise is entirely wrong, you live in bizarro world. Smite IS good... it's busted as hell, that's why everyone hates playing with it. Smite neuters all the enemies that get close to your team. Brain Burst on the other hand is weak and could use a buff.
>>498136518BB needs a redesign, even with stacking all the buffs it's worse than a vet shooting at things with a default lasgun
>>498136075So you constantly need to have soulblaze on enemies to get a 10% chance to get a stack, instead of anyone for any reason have killed an enemy for 4%, plus any elite or special already giving you a guaranteed one.Maybe if, this is crazy but hear me out, you take the 4%+guaranteed because it's higher than 0%+guaranteed.Next up, souldrinker, 3 dots away, grants a 5% crit chance for 5s. But, huh. On the last tree there is a 5% chance without any requirements.On top of that, you can max out perfect timing without either because the staff already crits constantly.Shit is crazy. If you'd just learn to read.Now, show your build.
>>498122027That sucked!
>>498136674>>498133483
>>498137136Now show your build.Apparently you're embarrassed.
>>498136674>Next up, souldrinker, 3 dots away, grants a 5% crit chance for 5s. But, huh. On the last tree there is a 5% chance without any requirements.The build that was posted takes neither so what is even your point? If you wanted a crit build you'd stick to the right path and take both of them + crit aura and emphatic evasion. Something that makes sense with electrokinetic staff that is heavy on crits. To begin with, electrokinetic staff is bad on a shriek soulblaze build since it doesn't benefit it at all. It's a bad build because it has no synergy.
>>498137208>>498131243
>>498136609BB is just waaaay too fucking slow. >*Bulwarks appear*>Hold on guys... *slowly swaps to his hands*... let me just charge for 6 seconds to almost kill one of them! And this doesn't work at all in Auric where the director is just spamming shit at you relentlessly. I've seen Pyskers be the last man standing and try to brainburst their way out of a hold, only to have BB be so slow that they just get pushed back and back. It's only barely useable with and after the Venting Shriek charge time speed buff, but even then, it's too slow, and you're always asking yourself why not just use your staff? It's only useful if you're using Purg and have no long range attack whatsoever. Even if there's a sniper way across the map, your staff left click can kill it just fine. Only use in BB is taking the 10-second random proc so you can buff your staff with it.
>>498137214>The build that was posted takes neither so what is even your point?I don't know, maybe read what I wrote.>If you wanted a crit build you'd stick to the right path and take both of them + crit aura and emphatic evasion.When was this a crit build, it's just a side effect, you were the one talking about crits.>Something that makes sense with electrokinetic staff that is heavy on crits. To begin with, electrokinetic staff is bad on a shriek soulblaze build since it doesn't benefit it at all.Quelling all buildup and doing damage on horde while you kill the elites and specials doesn't benefit anything? It's literally killing everything, benefiting everything.>It's a bad build because it has no synergy.Killing the aforementioned everything, it also kills bosses. Wow. But no I'd better uh, what is your build again?Oh right, you're afraid of posting it.
>>498131032>gaelicSorry buddy, but GW recently gave the ratlings a texan accent https://youtu.be/iDMioOzckeA(or wathever accent that is, I don't know my burger lore)
Why is it always this teenage girl attitude like "uhm sweetie you DO realize..." followed by 10 posts of 2-3 faggots calling each other retarded. It's entirely possible to share information / tips / advice without acting like high schoolers.
>>498137572You don't take Channeled Force, Empyric Shock. You don't take the crit talents for the staff that relies on crits for big damage. You spend all your warp siphon charges on shrieking. How is your staff doing damage, again? You might as well be using a gun. You keep asking other people to post builds because you're desperate for something to attack, since you're struggling to defend your own build on fair terms.
>>498137938not with these people
>>498137938>>498137962Post your build already redditor
>>498137938it's nu /v/ culture, the recent update brought a lot of tourists here flanderizing 4chan into a place where you absolutly have to be "le epic mastr troll lolz" to fit in
>>498137962NTA, can you post a surge staff build? It doesn't even have to be complete, just the basics in your opinion.
>>498137993>>498133483
>flanderizingno one who has said this word has ever had an accurate opinion about literally anything
>>498138070Post your build, is it that hard
>>498137938
>>498138138>>498131243
>>498137938Demographics of 4chan changing, always an influx of younger posters. Increase in estrogen among young men. Single mothers. Lack of exercise.
>>498138124funny that you felt immediatly targeted
Just started Darktide. Never played this kind of game before and never been very good at shooters. How 2 git gud and not be a burden on people? I don't want randos to yell at me.
>>498138203>funnyI don't think you have any humor in you at all
>>498137962>Channeled Force, Empyric ShockAre you kidding me now? You're single targeting with asterisks? Did you read what the skills do and require?Again, what is your build, what are you taking, what are you leaving out?
>>498138284it's a melee game first and foremost in the sense that being shot at is usually expected (your toughness the blue regenerating bar above HP is made to tank stray shots) but getting hit in melee will 3-4 hits down you. Everything is about the enemy "tracking", if you simply sprint it barely achieves anything. You have to learn how to dodge so always have a finger on this key, for ranged ennemies slide to mess with their trackings.
>>498137938Post that build already, you nigger. It's all I'm asking.
>>4981382841. stick with the team2. use both melee and ranged, it's not just a shooter3. prioritize specialist enemies like bombers, flamers, trappers, etc4. push attacks are very helpful
>>498138054The basics in my opinion is just the extra crit + emphatic evasion. With surge's high crit rate it makes you pretty much invincible to ranged fire. That's the appeal of the staff imo.
>>498138284>tag everything, from resources and enemies>don't lag behind and don't split up for no reason>learn to melee (blocking, pushing, dodging), don't rely too much on your ranged weapon
>>498138552You're asking the wrong person. I don't have a lighting staff build.
>>498138636>emphatic evasionWhich is broken, it does not work.Jesus fucking Christ. Post the build, now.
>>498138778>>498131243
>>4981382841. Learn to listen. Sound cues are a huge part of the game, they tell you tons of stuff like when a horde is coming, when a special enemy spawns or is attacking, even when a melee attack is about to hit you.2. Finish your food. Learn to tell when you've either killed an enemy or just knocked them over, knocked over enemies often get back up and smack you or somebody else on the ass because people mistakenly think they've killed something just by knocking it on the ground.3. Try to stay close to your team until you're confident in being able to handle yourself. Disabler specials are the #1 killer of uncoordinated teams because they don't help each other fast enough. If you see somebody get netted by a Trapper, try to un-net them before anything else, even killing the Trapper.4. Ping stuff. Information is useful for prioritizing threats, pinging important special or elite enemies that are approaching your team through a horde allows you to deal with them more easily. Bind the ping command to a comfortable button and use it often, although don't be be one of the annoying faggots who binds ping to their fire button.
>>498138868Why are you afraid to post it?
>do some low int malice to finally get overwatch/no health damage penances out of the way>There's a very noticeable increase of hot mics>Lots of them sound very angry, like they're meta gaming>keep hearing people get mad at one another or just general frustration into their mics even though literally nothing is going on, a far cry from the complete and utter silence I've known for the past year or twoWhat the fuck lmao?
>>498138946Do you want him to upload the same .png twice?
>>498139052I want him to post his build
>>498138946I just did though. What's stopping you from commenting on it? Go on.
>>498139086seems like he did
>>498139147Post your build, seeing as it doesn't have any of the skills you listed, it's not your build
>>498138778>emphatic evasion is broken, it does not work.source?
Can someone tel me what's the point of this? it doesn't stun ennemies and barely do dmg
>>498139540it's peepee poopoo
>>498139540the other node lets you do +10% base damage to electrocuted enemiesno, there is no reason to take either, complete ass
>>498139540Just a shitty, un-tested talent they tacked on to Smite for seemingly no reason in usual Fatshark fashion. They'll probably buff or change it somehow in the future, for now it is useless.
>>498139637wow, 2 nodes just for 10% dmg
I think he wants you to post your build.
>>498138284use melee, stop wasting your ammo shooting at harmless zombiesstick togetherprioritize enemies who can disable teammatesUSE YOUR MELEE
>>498139694less than 10% since it's bonus base damage
>>498139048Shitters want to point fingers when things go wrong, the shittiest players are the most vocal retards. There are ragers in higher difficulties too but I think most players who have the wherewithal to hold their own there can recognize when they themselves fucked up.
the starship troopers game officially left early access yesterdayis it good?
>>498140530still jank, now also on consolesit's alright but the main appeal is playing in a big team, the rest is meh unless you're a giga starship troopers fan
>>498140530It's alright. Dunno if I recommend pubs though, I only have fun when I play with 2-3 of my friends.
>>498140530It's the lesser EDF and neither are worth the full price
Fatshark needs to get rid of private game penances. They've been adjusted to the point where you can easily do them in quickplay now.
>>498141330just make some friends
>>498141363I will not
>>498139637Isn't it for your team to do more damage as the Smite acts as a global debuff
>>498141595what's a team?
>>498141595>hey guys come and kill that ennemy I'm debuffing instead of killing it myselfthe eternal smigger
>>498141595yes but it's still shit. It's just 10%. Also it's unfun.
wait...infinite dodges, isn't that great?
>>498142718yes but keep it on the down low, sister, we don't want it nerfed
>>498142790I'M TELLING I'M TELLING!
>>498139048xbone, discord, and esls dont know how to turn off their micsi seriously dont understand how people have hot mics because you have to turn it on manually, or its push to speak by default
>>498142718It's kind of good, but encourages bad playjust learn when to stop and let your dodges recover, and then take riposte or precog instead and start one tapping crushers to the face with a single lunge
>>498142865the discord mafia will have your head for this
>>498142929isn't it hot by default on console?
>>498142718nice try
>>498142718>stop dodging for 1 sec>doges are backwoah
>>498143375yeah, xbone
Crusher OP?
>>498144435Crusher stronk.
>>498144435thunder better
>>498144435new blessings feel good, I run slaughterer+skullcrusher now and feel like it kills more betterer
>>498143603yeah but imagine not stopping
>>498145589i tried the +25% impact on hit 5x stacks and now I can't go back.
>>498119985AI generated black psyker anime girl poster
>>498146000what does it do thats so good
>>498146568It impacts.
>Wrist was already flimsy>This game reduced me to that impotent, flapping around, pacing in my room levels of pain>Finally buckle and get one of those ergo vertical mouses>Extremely comfy and can now play long sessions without any notable achesThank you Darktide for being so horrendous on my tissue wrist that I caved.
>>498144435Could be here
>>498146721https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mSZWSQSSEjE
If nobody got me, I know Braced Autogun got me.
>>498147481>Dumping StabilityI know its braced but eugh
>>498147481brace gun morre like cringe gun
So what's a good braced autogun talent build for vet?
>>498147365Done it all, trust me. They alleviate pain for maybe 5-10 minutes before the cold-yet-hot numb-yet-painful experiences return in my wrist.
>>498147992Do you do them daily or only when it hurts because its supposed to be the former. I do it because I also do art and that's hell on the wrists too and then going to Zealot sometimes fucks me up.Also look into getting a brace if you don't already have one.
>>498146000hammerblow is alright but power translates into stagger anyway, that's why I like slaughterer more
>>498147481Based braced enjoyer, currently doing my Vet weeklies as Ex Stance braced bullet hose and I just love this gun>>498147537Shut your whore faggot mouth, say that to my face not online see what happens
>>498146568everyone just starts falling over and I think it's funny. I use it for Maelstrom Mostly Melee Scab Only. Pair it with either slaughter or skullcrusher.
>>498148495ur gun cring ur pew is cring and also ur cringvery cringey!!!!!!!!!!
>>498146721I'm glad it never got this bad for me. I got a pain once because of warband. I take lots of breaks from the pc now..
>mk12 chainaxe>headtaker>slaughterer
>Chainaxe
>>498149236chainaxe looks so stupid and ugly and I will pillow fight you if you disagree
>>498149313I love using it but I fully agree. Giant axe head on a shitty short handle looks fucking goofy. I wish it was two handed.
>chainaxe
Can I still not play DT solo to get penances?
>>498150363you can play with bots and then proceed to get bots dead at the startwith mods ofc
>>498150435>penancesI don't see a solo play mod on nexus that doesn't say that it disables progression.
>>498150567many more tries or something like that, can confirm it works, that's how I got zealot stun grenade one
>>498150363If its just a normal penance, use many more try. It lets you queue up expired missions that people can't quickplay into by using the mmtget command and looking for something. If it's a private room only penance, then lol lmao get fucked retard.
>>498150363just play with _me_ anon
I refuse to believe anyone got this penance honestly.
>>498151754Just play zealot.
>>498151754Why not? There are lots of OP builds that can trivialize auric missions. I just played plasma+shout Vet for 10 games to get that one, same way I got the ASS title too.
>trying to get used to a new dodge bindoh this is embarrassing
>>498151754I got it to 9, then came back the next day and forgot i was doing the penance. Played recklessly and died. My self-inflicted-punishment was 10 rounds of basic bitch shield kickback charge ogryn for maximum easy mode. Even avoided HISTG and only picked regular high int. Glad that's over with.
>>498151754This isn't even hard lol I got flawless execution 3 doing aurics
my hand hurts
UAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA AAAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHGGGGG
>>498152298rotate your hands
This is the life, nothing better!
>>498137660doesn't sound texan to mespeaking way too clearlyI'd guess some other deep south state near the appalachia
>>498152447MUTANT
>>498152534?
>>498150703>>498150734I'd use many more tries but yeah I need penances from private games, I'm not really afraid of playing with randoms but the private game requirement sucks.>>498151559EU?
>>498152693that's right
>>498152704I got one anon here to play with me and we both did all our private game penances so ask here
>>498139387he's lying for attebtion or something it works perfectly fine
we'll win this war one day, you'll see
carpal tunnel syndrome and hemorrhoids, you guys are LAME
>>498152137space bar?
>>498152447
>>498152884shut the fuck up hag
I wanna play something other than the eviscerator but I'm too fucking used to it. No matter what I use I always end up thinking that I'd rather be swinging an eviscerator.
>>498152137This is why you rebind jump and not dodge.
I made this meme build with Scrier's. I do a fuckton of damage, but I have no survivability or utility and the slightest breeze kills me. Is this garbage or useable? And yes, I took this to 10 Auric games yesterday and lost every single one. On one mission, after we all got downed halfway through, Zealot-san said, "too heavy", and left.
>mutant wave spawns>elevator door closes>18 seconds of WAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA UWAAAAAAAAAAAA AAAAAAAAAAAH>...>AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAH WAAAAAAAAAA
>>498153468Take the chainaxe pill. It's the superior chain weapon.
paypigs are larping in my game again...
>>498153482>>498152137theres a mod called no accidental jump that lets you bind dodge to space+left/right/back and keeps jump on space+neutral/forwardIt's the best control scheme for me, I am 99% sure vt2 let you do this without mods
>some leather shit clips through the chestwhy is fatshark like this?
>>498153536pro tip blazing spirit on force sword + souldrinker in talent tree
>>498153536Looks pretty shit desu. Skipping the majority of the toughness nodes at the top of the tree really hurts Psyker's survivability, way more than the other classes. Smite without the auxiliary nodes also makes it even more of a meme. I don't see the point of going all the way over to Warp Siphon either, might as well just lean into the right side of the tree and go DD and save some points.
>>498153740squashing meshes slightly for body type 2 is immeasurably complex
Do block cost reduction nodes even count for blocking ranged attacks with force swords
>>498153482what binds do you use for sprint, dodge, and jump?
>>498153685I have this scheme and I don't use mods
>>498153590But it has less damage and worse cleave?
>>498153620oink oink
>>498154382how do you do that without mods? It still jumps after a dodge when doing multiple dodges sideways
>auric maelstromUWAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAH (x12)
>>498153536it's pretty shit, but it can be fixed and at least your weapons are good. +3 wounds is retarded. You can bring +1 if you're not used to the build. Get 2x toughness curios maybe?Left keystone doesn't synergize well with scriers gays. I recommend going either EP or DD. That's middle or right keystone. Instead of worrying about keeping Scriers Gaze running, just let it max out to 100%, because you see that outermost F node called Warp Unbound gives you 10 seconds where you can just spam Voidstrike at 100%. Because of this you can cut out your entire left side. If you're struggling with survivability then get more toughness regen nodes. Get 3 or 4 more from the the top of the tree.
>>498153536My proposed changes to your build. Forgoing all the toughness generation nodes on Psyker is painful, also Perilous Combustion is kind of OP and worth taking in every build IMO. Warp Siphon is good with Voidstrike but you have to stretch yourself too far with that build to go for it, DD is also very good if all you're doing is headshotting things.
>>498153740all the slop rotation costumes are outsourced to some chink dev
Is there ANY reason to play Vermintide 1 over 2?
>>498154980honestly no
>>498153482>have overpriced meme ergo keyboard>rebind dodge to the key next to space>never accidentally jumpIt's that easy.
>>498154835>Left keystone doesn't synergize well with scriers gaysThey fixed the cooldown bug so it allows you to have warp unbound essentially on repeat. There's definitely something you could do with that. Not gonna vouch for it though since it still doesn't work with some staves.
>>498153536I've made this weird crap to do scrier's gaze penance and kinda and it kinda grew on me in the process.For weapons I use Illisi with exorcist to keep gaze for as long as possible and a boltpistol. I mostly use it for melee and I feel like a warp-flauvored zealot.
>>498153740you haven't noticed the constant hover shoulder pads?
>>498155593Why aren't you running soulstealer? What the fuck anon take those retarded smite nodes off and put them into something good
>>498154752I don't spam dodge
>>498155515i get the idea but Gaze cooldown is already so low, it's already practically in repeat. 8 talents to get slightly more uptime ain't super worth it because the game doesn't have endless hordes. I think it's overkill.
>>498155990Those smite nodes are +10% after heavy attack. Which seems decent to me. As for souldrinker — I've already sacrifice one of damaging blessings to get exorcist, I don't think it's worth it to sacrifice another one (shred) to get blazing spirits.
>>498153884>>498153959How's this? Staff:>took off Surge for Warp Flurry (Was testing it out and it charges too slow for my liking without it) Sword:>Took off Slaughterer for Blazing Spirit Tree:>flipped Warp Siphon for Disrupt Destiny>Put some of the top defensive nodes on with the free points I got from the flip >Put Souldrinker on >Put Perilous Combustion on>>498154835I want to do the meme wound thing with Crystalline Will.Noted about the rest, implemented your advice. >>498154951Okay I put Perilous Combustion on. I'm really not using Smite at all, I just took it because I had to pick up one there.
>>498154951>>498153536Some people think no movement penalty while quelling is bad. Try combining it with MORE movement from scriers gaze, + movement on DD, + movement on crit. Movement speed is a defensive stat, and it's extremely helpful for clutching. Not to mention increased quality of life and fun.
>>498156041Yeah so you dont actually have that control scheme then
>>498156471>I want to do the meme wound thing with Crystalline Will.Very well. Fun is the most important stat and you're welcome to meme in my aurics.
>>498156415>As for souldrinker — I've already sacrifice one of damaging blessings to get exorcist, I don't think it's worth it to sacrifice another one (shred) to get blazing spirits.1/10 apply yourself. It's literally the first node on your skill tree.
>>498156151Well it's a meme build but at least it's there.
>>498156519Movement speed is also a good offensive statI just wish vet had access to more so I could run into things with my knifer rifle more
Prask and Molsk or Soltag and Morti.
Was playing with Ogryn's Rumbler after coming back to Darktide and realised that while bouncing nades off of surfaces and scattering incoming Poxwalkers is fun, I'd much rather prefer my damage to be immediate. Especially when I'm trying to put down a Crusher/Mauler or focusing a Monstrosity.Really makes me wish Adhesive Charge had been Contact Fuse instead so that the nades go off on impact.
>play scriers for a week>holy shit this is so strong and fun how did i ever insist staves were stronger?>play staff caster for a week>holy shit this is so strong and fun how did I ever insist scriers gunpsyker was stronger?>get bored>play scriers for a week-
>>498156934you could always use the grenade gauntlet. Probably the least used weapon in the game
>>498153482I forced myself to swap over to bolt pistol (haven't tried since it came out) last night and I found myself jumping to peep over mobs and assess rager densityIt's all the more embarrassing because my vet is manlet, but I think you just have to get used to itIt doesn't help that weapons like duelling sword have extremely fast dodges so you can spam dodge without jumping though
>>498157087now try scriers as staff caster.you get one more week in your psyker rotation
>>498157091Really? Seems like it would be the go-to metafag weapon with its fast draw speed and perfectly accurate nades for sniping.
>>498157087I'm almost convinced it's a ping thingThey just don't feel right sometimes
>>498157315Kickback is the meta gun.
>>498157091Thing is the Gauntlet is on my Mastery grind list.Just that I *can't get my hands on a decent one*Yeah yeah 'just bulk buy greys' but all my money tends to vanish before I go to the shop. Maybe I need to invest in a couple of +Ordo Dockets curios and grind
>>498157315>Having to lobI think kickback is better, you don't even have to aim wellSure it doesn't always kill, but they're on their butt for a while
I HATE stealth retards who don't understand how detrimental their selfishness can be for the team as a whole.
>>498157315the reload is annoying, it needs some kind of reload blessing
So I was asking the other day about how to know if a weapon is good or not and you guys said I do that via the potential thingy. So anyway, I got this.Mobility is at 62% and everything else is at (or almost at) 80. That means it's good, right? It being white doesn't matter cause I can pay to increase the colour, right?So, now I just keep paying for colour upgrades until I it gets orange and at that point it have it's full potential of all 80's and one 60, is that right?
>>498157623Shut up nigga
>>498157683Rarity upgrades don't fill up the bars, empowering does, and it's expensive as fuck. You also have to have its max rating cap fully unlocked to 500 to fill them up by getting mastery to 19 or something.Also, that's not a perfectly rolled shovel, and not worth upgrading.
>>498157683right right
>>498157623how is me gtfo and leaving you in the middle of a horde selfish or detrimental?
>>498156519Thanks. I'll try the movement speed nodes as well. >>498156659Thanks for all the advice. I think the build is a lot better now.
>>498157636You're supposed to sp attack that ngs until they blled dead
>>498157495Meta gun that nobody uses, 95% ogryns are using stubbers.
>>498158014didn't happen
>>498148239Sorry, went away. I've tried doing them daily in the past and it lead to no discernible improvement. According to my physician, part of the issue is my wrists are too large in relation to my hands, like actual bone size, so what's happening is that everything is getting pinched as it goes through my wrist into my hand. Tendons, ligaments, everything.
nothing's been the sem ever since zola went after the twins
>>498157826>>498157876I'm getting conflicting information here.So empowering is not the same as increasing the colour, alright. If colour doesn't do that, then what does it do? Perks and blessings only?>max rating cap fully unlocked to 500 I'll just a wait a little till to get the mastery at that and only then start empowering stuff. Alright.>spoilerI don't get it.Mobility is at 62 instead of 60 and penetration is at 79 instead of 80 but that's almost there. How is it now worth upgrading and how can I tell that? I was only told about those stats.
It's another a bunch of plague monks spawn and everybody dies episode
>>498158108plasma/revolver situation
>>498157623>noooooo why aren't you babysitting me and sticking in coherency with the rest of the team trivializing the entire game and making it a snoozefest>you WANT to feel like the game is slightly difficult>on the HIGHEST difficulty?>no you can't do that, auric is supposed to be comfy and easy for ME!shut the fuck up, let the stealth nigger die in peace if he wants, if he isn't and you are instead, you're the problem.
god ratclick is so gosh darn comfy, it almost makes me not mind ratposters.VT3 when, realistically speaking?
>>498158562tiny clawed hands pawed this post
>>498158220Concecrate upgrades the color.Empower fills the bars.You want to do both.Your weapon is fine. It has mobility as a dump stat and that's normal. When it comes to the bars there's room for personal preference. It gets more interesting if you Inspect your weapon and hover over the stats so you can make an informed choice.
>>498157623>Can't handle aggroYou aren't auric ready.
>>498158562Well if what an anon said about their recent dev stream was true, and they've got another 3 years of stuff planned for VT2, then there probably won't be a VT3 for at least that long
>>498159051In Sweden time that's one year of content spread over nine years
>>498157623Yes yes, scapegoat the Stealth Zealot as usual. It's ALWAYS their fault.
>>498159224unironically true
>>498159224yes
>stands out in the middle of 20 gunnersI cannot believe>eats five different mauler/crusher overheadsthat rat bastard>gets trapped, dogged, flamed, grenaded, and pox gasses all at oncethe stealth zealot>gets snipedwould do this to methere is no way I could've prevented this myself, he NEEDED to be there to absorb aggro from me>just solo everythingliterally impossible, you are asking the impossible>the stealth zealot literally just solos everything to save the matchfucking tryhard sweat faggot
>>498159224True.>>498159849This never happened.
>>498159849True. This happened. I was there.
so when is ogryn and psyker getting stealth?
>>498159849The opposite of this happened. Source: I was the zealot
>>498157315the shotguns outperform it for special sniping, it has limited range and shit for ammo, plus long reloads and you got 4 shots per mag that come out slow. Plus zero poxwalker penetration so they can just block a special and you are fuckedI still like using it from time to time cause the punch is fun but I think it's one of the worst weps in the game
It's about time we addressed the real problem. Low profile vets. Standing right there in front of you acting all innocent with their 90% threat reduction.
Me:>taking a shot>clear everything that's not a basic poxnigger in a 100m radiusYou:>A-aww geez, TWO crushers??!? Y-y-y-yikes! *goes invisible while the ogryn kills everything*
>>498160310Every single match I get 3 stealth vets and the moment we are swarmed by a horde they all go stealth with double charge and watch me and laugh as I die to the horde. Every. Single. Time.
>>498160310anon...
>>498160310is this still a talent option? I thought this went away at least like three reworks ago
>>498158868>It gets more interesting if you Inspect your weapon and hover over the stats so you can make an informed choice.You mean check what stat each of those bars govern? Speaking of that, when I hover it shows me the number in orange and then in between orange it shows to other numbers in grey, like:>dodge limit: 4.00 [3.00 | 5.00]What are those numbers in grey? I suppose it would make sense if it was the maximum it could be, after all upgrades but then why have one that's lower if the stats can't go down?Also is it better to start with a white weapon or a blue one? I have one with the perfect 80's and 60 but it's blue and I'll want to change the blessing on it. I can only change blessings twice, right?
>vent purge mission>activate piss vision>entire screen lights up like a christmas tree>spray 1000 bullets everywhere>pissing never stopsI am cum, god I loved braced autoguns
>>498160506It's a bonus node for stealth now
>>498160492>nd laugh as I die to the horde.lol noob
>>498157091I've come to like the grenade gauntlet on my power maul build, since I'm using the explosion radius talent anyway. One shot important things, even body shot quite a few. Widest area suppression for safely advancing on shooters. Can even kill small clusters of shotgunners with the radius boost. And a two stage reload that can be sped up through animation cancelling.
>quickplay auric mael>load into lobby and some dude named naked homeless immediately bails>weird>play the mission>more people quickplay in>they dont even go down, they just bail after a minute of playing>weird???>this happens six more times, more people join and immediately bail>wtf>complete mission, incredibly easy maelstorm>Am I missing something?
Isn't peril resistance actively harmful since you benefit from generating, venting and achieving high peril?
>>498160936you benefit more from being able to shoot
>>498160936Kinda sorta but also no.You'd think then, that the ideal situation is to generate 100% peril with a single cast, and then quell all of it instantly, but that's not going to help you kill shit, and the toughness gen from that isn't really going to stop you getting wombo combo'd and instadowned because psyker's real problem is no toughness DR worth talking aboutthe best caster builds run the -perils -toughness node
>>498160910>that post>that imageI think I know the cause. KYS tranime poster.
>>498160687you can change both blessings as much as you want. Perks too. If you like the blue gun use the blue gun.
>>498161242You don't need to scream about your insecurity on the internet, anon.
>>498161242You need to go back redditnigger
>level up my zealot on Malice>two level 30 assail smiggers joinwhy do they do this
>>498161787I told them to go back to Malice. So they did.
>>498160910She cute
>>498160492>turn invisible>watch team die>pick them up faster with the revive traits>team thanks me for carrying them, says they're just having a bad day>unlock the 1000 revives frame in no time>everyone innately trusts me when they see itI love stealth vet.
>>498161787you can't be an assail smigger, smigger uses smite
>>498160936Yeah, plus quell speed provides more overall shots. I dunno what the other replies are on about, it's simple math
>>498162669>it's simple mathoh yeah then provide the numbers...
>>498161250I've seen some videos where it said it was only twice. Did they change that?
>>498163191Yes, that's the old system which everybody hated since you needed at least 2 good perks/blessings on top of a good stat distribution for a godroll, as you could only fix 2 things.Now you can change perks and blessings as many times as you like on a single weapon for just a small docket fee.
>>498163751now if only they'd let us get 100% in all stats...but that's not what will happen, we'll get 100/100/100/100/80 weapons, and they'll rebalance everything so that they feel exactly like 80/80/80/80/60 weapons, because giving us a sudden jump in power that they've spent the past two years not balancing around can't be tolerated
>vet talent tree artwork shows a heavy gun with a backpacklol where is it?
Red weapons should have unique perks and stat spreads so orange weapons can stay relevant.But that won't happen. Instead they'll just be orange weapons with a small percentage power increase.
>>498164604not a heavy gun with a backpack, just the good old plasma gun
>>498164734errm...?
I keep seeing in YouTube videos people saying that the Electric Staff is now currently the best staff (Next to Purg). Is this true? Why? Is it literally just because it got Surge?
>>498164838Staff primary attack talents + electric staff has crit as a stat bar + electric staff has surge and it applies to primary attacksYou can spam shots that can instantly delete everything in the game shy of Crushers, who you can delete in a single charged staff secondary followed by an uncharged secondary.I'm telling you exactly how it works because I hate it and want it nerfed.
>>498164836you heard menow take your plasma gun pills and forget everything about that other gun you imagined
>>498164713That's stupid. Nobody would ever use orange weapons again once red weapons get added to the game, "unique stat spreads" or not, don't kid yourself. There is nothing interesting about the stat system anyway, every single weapon has 4 useful stats and 1 dump stat and you always want that perfect distribution if you're actually trying to minmax.
>>498164734*Coughs into fist*
>>498165096looks like the good old braced autogun to me
>>498165189no that's a famas
>>498165039damn, so it's true then. What's your Surge Staff build?
>>498164604Fartshart is too lazy to make playable versions of the Scab Gunner's hellgun and and Dreg Gunner's heavy stubber.
>>498165096wait what the fuckwhy is there a zealot with a properly sized eviscerator in the background therejust the good old tigrus heavy eviscerator
>>498165465shush that's a broomstick
>>498165465that's a trick of the perspective isn't itmust be a regular chainsword, maybe even a combat blade
>>498165075Vermintide 1 had some red weapons with perfect trait combinations that were pretty much just straight upgrades, but it also had red weapons with unique trait combinations that could give the weapon a new flavor without invalidating orange weapons. Vermintide 2 then made this boring by just having red weapons be perfectly rolled orange weapons across the board.It is doable if the devs have some imagination instead of being swedish and lazy and gay.
>>498126863grendyl is:-dead/never existed and the command staff use his name to achieve their/the rogue trader's goals-one of them is grendyl and pretending to keep a target off their back, probably morrow? (who is probably a perpetual???)-grendyl just likes to be anonymous? shrug.
The overkill damage on the thunder hammer never fails to make me laugh a little.
>>498166339>probably morrow? (who is probably a perpetual???)what
>>498166424>scoreboardyikes
>>498165189Nawm def picrel, it's a heavy stubber
>>498166339grendyl is Zolamy source? that one random psyker line that can be interpreted that way
You guys know the names of the npcs in this?
>>498166920theres one called grendyll and one called morrow but i don't know who they are
>>498166920>Hadron>Melk>Morrow>MasoziThat's about as far as I can get.
A BEEEEG BELLY LAAAAFFFFFF
>>498167102most memorable darktide lore
>>498166541Nope, just the good ol' braced autogun!
>>498166467either he spreads crazy rumors about himself or hes actually immortal
>>498166339>grendyl just likes to be anonymous? shrug.wow if only we knew of a character who wants to remain anonymous despite being a literal nobody by trade, who claims to known grendyl more intimately than Rannick, his direct subordinate, and who is tied directly to the most significant plot point, the return of true moebian steelif only...
>>498167341Some of the mission banter implies the former but it's simply likely he was lost in the Warp for a time, which fucks with time progression so a journey of a few weeks can last for a few decades, and a few month could've just taken a few hours.
>>498167497that's an aeldari
>>498167341>immortalI thought it was normal for time stuff to get all fucked up by the warp in 40k, like space ships disappearing for hundreds or thousands of years after jumping into the warp and when they reappear it's only been a few days for them in real-time. I just assumed he was on one of those warp jumps that went sideways which is why dialogue alludes to him seeming older than he actually is
Is that starship troopers game any good? I saw it came out recently on xbox
>>498167579>>498167632>lost in the Warpmultiple times? hes been everywhere basically. (if you believe it)
>>498167497>swing eviscerator at his head once during the mission>Grendyl is deadlmao what an idiot putting himself in close proximity to 4 superpowered schizophrenics
>>498168464Yeah wow, it really would be worrying if they knew he was worth killing. Instead he's just some random nobody so they pass right by him. Weird how convenient concealing your identity is for a high profile person like an inquisitor...hhhrrrmmmm...
Which autogun is best for vet and which blessings should I take?
>>498168603>Instead he's just some random nobody so they pass right by him.The first thing I did upon seeing him is swing a massive pickaxe directly into his head to see if I can kill him.
>>498168732No, you didn't. Your pickaxe went right through him because you're not allowed to do that. Your character ignored him and didn't harm him, schizo.
>>498147481>>498148495Agripinaa Braced is brilliant. Got my 10 aurics recently from playing on heresy and the last one was brutal two crappy teammates and damnation tier waves with infected 21st. Dumping into shotgun and rager packs is so good. over 600K damage on a weapons specialist vet. Yeah it was Consignment Yard and I wasn't getting any luck hitting the far off snipers at the end so what we still won.
>>498168464>Conflating gameplay conventions with story and worldI know you browse reddt. dumbass midwit.
>>498168814Rannick wouldn't even bat a fucking eye if we killed some random unless he was just faking not knowing Grendyl.
>>498168971Rannick has no idea what Grendyl's true identity is. Swagger even pokes fun at him for it. There's an exchange something like>Rannick: All things are revealed, eventually...>Swagger: Oh, are you sure about that? lol, lmao evenbut I'm not sure what your point is, we were ordered to cooperate with him and our characters don't attack him
>>498168950Bethesda tier writing. Actually that's a compliment since your game has even worse writing than that.>>498169173>trusting a schizophrenic to not set you on fire just because he can
>>498169394Even assuming the rejects attacked an inquisitor who was incognito, if he's given the same power scaling as them, they're going to lose. He's cybernetically enhanced and has superior weapons, and the rejects for at least some period of their existence sport bomb collars he controls.
these are my aurics but I'm not sure it's my game
>>498168728Braced for gigachad mowing down swathes of enemies while barely aiming, the Agripinaa VIII is an excellent weapon. Any double damage blessing combo is good, Fire Frenzy/Deathspitter/Ceaseless Barrage. Infantry if you want to pretend you're playing COD, the Vraks Mk V (formerly Columnus V) is ridiculously strong, Fire Frenzy+Dumdum is what I run on that.
>>498169602>He's cybernetically enhanced and has superior weaponsSounds fun. When do we get to kill him?
>bracedI too like to be a close range only vet.
>>498169760Never, but look forward to the foreshadowed "other inquisitor arrives and acts like he's overseeing grendyl's work, but he's chaos corrupted" inevitable plot point.
>>498166920I only know mommy Hadron the rest don't interest me
>>498168728Braced Agripinussy if you want to be boring, Vraks Infantry Autogun with Exec Stance and Marksman Focus if you want to be based
>>498167849The most concerning rumor about Morrow is that he might have Necron Mindshackle Scarabs implanted in him. That's tantamount to an accusation of heresy, since they can only be removed only by very skilled Techpriests like Cawl, and more orthodox Inquisitors straight up blam compromised agents.
>shopclick plot points>evil traitors... chaos agents.. corrupted moebians>ratclick plot points>uh go here and kill rats lol
>>498169848Kills snipers just fine except at extreme range and absolute rapes everything at close to medium, also has a truly ridiculous amount of ammo for the punch it packs. It's a great Vet weapon, I love it on Zealot too, and I've been having a blast playing gunpsyker again now that they can use it as well. Take the bracedpill.
>>498170118Rats win yet again!
>>498169859You're expecting way too much from Fatshark writers. Their plot points so far have been>the traitor was some random bitch running the store! (it's the girl who kept saying "ugh... for the emperor I guess... groan")>here's a commissar btw (nobody can explain why)
>>498170118Sometimes we kill breastmen and chaos though
>>498170380another inquisitor butting in but actually being a tool of chaos is like the vanilla ice cream of plot points in a 40k story though
>>498169948>mommy HadronShe ain't much of a mommy...
>>498170118Every ratclick mission: >coherent and unique objectives, winning local battles and working towards a larger goal, each character bringing their own perspective on their personal journeyEvery shopclick mission: >uhhh let the rabid murderhobos loose in Cyber Block Sub Ident C-5325236234 there's another 20,000 squatters that need evicting
>>498170636That's what she wants me to call her
You ever just leave a game because your death was bullshit and you don't feel like playing anymore?
>>498166424>minimalist scoreboard>still keep the useless and arbitrary scores
>>498171342Then tell her she can only be a mommy if she has big boobs.
>>498170583They don't really write 40k story though, they mostly write strong womyn dialogue like all the other nu writers. The new commissar makes me cringe and the voice acting is just as bad
The Moebian 6th don't want you to know this one simple trick.
>>498171986Compelling, however*one taps him with zealot dueling sword*I like my way better
>>498171986>psyker staff gets to do this>ogryn melee punch doesn'tcool!
>>498131604>>498131365
>>498166920Lady Alice HallowetteSour "Darius" MilkTechno-archeologist Hadron Omega 7-7Enginseer KX-8Quartermaster BruntShipmistress BrahmsSergeant Major MorrowExplicator ZolaInterrogator Jean-Baptiste Emmanuel Zorg Ivan RannickInquisitor GrendylSister Hestia PrimeLieutenent MasoziCommissar DukaneSefoni
>>498160310I had the pleasure of having a retarded passenger princess with that in one of my pub groups. He'd just stand around doing fuckall, constantly getting salty at the retarded ogryns and talking shit. Best bit was that he'd start bitching about the team splitting up whenever I needed to go back 1 room to go pick up the ogryn that was probably somewhat new and getting lost on the map. So I'd go to pick up the ogryn and instead of just following along to help he'd keep standing still and be unable to deal with the 10% remaining threat and promptly die.
>>498173179This weapon is very silly and I will laugh if it gets giganerfed now that Vet and Zealot take it to the extreme
>>498173415>forgets doc karl>sad nordic noiseshe even has a cutscene bro
>>498171986>matchmaking failed>error code: 9999
>>498175198It's fun to use, so I hope they don't overnerf it. Carapace damage aside, it's really not that bad at the moment. Plenty of shit performs just as well against non-carapace enemies.
>>498175198They did jack shit for the knife for over a year, surely they'll nerf it after the next vacation they have.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U6MuXsvVU4Y
>>498175465Was the knife nerfed?
>>498175198>psykers end up getting the short end of the stick>againsay it aint so
>>498177415poor psykers :( they never get buffed they always get nerfed :(
>>498177671they deserve it
I forget, aurics are shock trooper gauntlet by default?
>>498178435Aurics are always hi-intensity
why can't you turn off crossplayi don't want to know that some retard is using a controller so he can't deal with enemies behind us
>>498178707Because fuck you, that's why. Also Xbabs are allowed to turn off crossplay (but never will obviously), it's just PCucks who aren't allowed to :^}
>>498178707You can if you play on xbox
>>498178707>>498178894>>498178998You vill carry ze xbots and you vill be happy.
>>498146474But he always gets deleted
>>498181470I wish
>>498180285*blocks you*
>he doesn't gg at the end of the matchtry to respond without making it sound like you're seethingyou can't
>>498178707Is there crossplay with consoles? I thought that was with microsoft store only.
What does difficulty change? More enemies? Higher chance of bosses? More enemy health? Higher chance of crossplay with xfags?
>>498181758They have the same icons, they are processed through the same service so even with mods we can't distinguish between them.
>level +1000 dood>leaves at the very first sight of difficulty
>>498181923yes
>>498178707>i don't want to know that some retard is using a controller so he can't deal with enemies behind usRetards don't need to be console faggots to not have your back. It's part of why ratclick is so comfy. Skelebros don't care about green circles. They've always got my back.
>>498181730g
>>498182125>literal bots stealing kerillian's green circlesthis is a federal crime
>>498182020thousands of hours in-game have made him extremely good at spotting teams that can't carry himyou'd do well to learn from his wisdom
>kill enemies around me>aim down sights >*hear sound indicating an enemy is attacking me from behind*>turn around, stupid random poxwalker that somehow appeared behind me is there? >kill it>look around again, absolutely nothing>turn back around, aim down sights>*hear sound indicating an enemy is attacking me from behind*>turn around, yet another random poxwalker >KILL IT IN RAGE>wait a bit, confirm it is in fact dead>look everywhere again >nothing>okay... AIM DOWN SIGHTS>*hear sound indicating an enemy is attacking me from behind...*Is this an actual mechanic in the enemy spawns? Does it just spawn random trash behind you so you can't shoot in peace?
>>498183343wait till you find out about the packs of shotgunners materializing out of thin air
>>498183343there are a lot of spots enemies can drop vertically on you in almost every map
>>498183343try not tunnelvisioning, spawn in exists very rarely but 99% of the time it's just a poxwalkie who jumped a fence that you didn't pay attention to
>>498182349>shitbow trannymaiden>getting any circlesThe skeletons don't kill much. Occasionally the whole back can kill one thing if you explicitly tell them to gank something, but they mostly just tarpit the enemy and stall for time. Largely because I think that the AI needs to abide by the same slot system to attack the skeles that they do when attacking players, so a pack of six skeletons formed up on a chokepoint makes the horde shit itself. You still need to occasionally turn around and toss some flames that way to mop up the horde that's stacking up on the skeles.Kerillian and Kruber were both oblivious to anything happening behind them. Kruber overextended far forward and got himself killed and kerillian apparently got herself overwhelmed by three slave rats. I fucked up my cast of my skill there though. I had a brain fart and thought 'F' would clear sienna's heat too. I probably could have gone back to try to help kruber sooner but I, foolishly, assumed that he and the elf were fighting together. Apparently kruber dove a billion meters forward directly into a hook rat. Never trust players with dash abilities. They tend to fuck around and find out.
what is this shit?
>>498184063>complaining sub20 levels are not performing like autists with 2k hours yeah you'll fit right in with the ratclickers
>>498177365Only indirectly with the Invocation of Death nerf.
>>498185040I don't think you even need to kill them with headshot crits, I have been using the autopistol and spray enemies at 10 stacks and still get progress.
>>498185040 this is basically admissal that youre not killing shit in missions
>>498182125>>498184063Is this retard actually posting webms of NPCs killing enemies?Is this really how low we've gotten in this general?
>>498185040Use the revolver, bolt pistol or shotgun (double barrel or regular)
>>498185040piss easy if you just use a revolver
>>498185097My bad. To be frank it's been years since I even looked at someone's level. Yeah that does excuse them fucking up a bit. I still won't excuse usage of the shitbow though.>>498185331The skeletons mostly just stagger things. They have fuckall damage.
>>498185097>>498185331it's just some random shopclicker playing ratclick and thinking the game is as miserable and angsty as darktidejudging by the webms it was a champion wastes runjust laugh and move on
>>498185040a single auric maelstrom of helbore lasgunning, more or less
>have yet to complete the new train missionWhy are people so fucking stupid?
>me ooga team boogatired of this daily rerunvery tired
>>498185632What's the problem? Anyway I'll just hang back here and fight, no I won't get the power cells... no I won't protect you while you're on the auspex... I'm grinding penances. We lost?
>>498185491It was the first level of legend. Cataclysm matches weren't firing on my side of the globe at that hour. It's part of why I didn't notice their levels. Normally low level players don't bother queuing up for legend. Maybe in another four years shopclick will finally have as much content as year 1 ratclick.
>>498175198>make weapon strong because it's balanced by the class's non existent melee oriented talents>give it to two classes that have multiple ways to empower melee>also give it Thrust they just didn't think at all
>>498186091lol you think you're smart but that's not legend damage the other retards are takingthats champion damageretard thinks we cant tell LOL
>>498186383meds. Take them.
>>498185491lol wow, darktide really is rent free for some of you fucks
For me it's the Steel Legion coat making zealots look exactly like dregs.
grrr my team never does the objective so nobody does it (i'm exempt)
anyone tried out new setups with the plasma gun blessings? they seem kinda shit desu
>>498185331Every webm in this general is of NPCs killing enemies.
>>498186289They weren't thinking much at all with shopclick. The blessings in this game provide such a massive divergence in performance from baseline that it is impossible for them to balance that shit when they only work 3 months out of the year. Compared to ratclick where the worst that you could say is that min-maxed weapon had swift slaying for slightly faster attack speed and might maybe have its damage slightly min-maxed to kill the occasionally elite in one less hit.They've put themselves in a situation where shit can just go off the rails if they touch any of the blessings or class talents since interactions that they can't foresee can be way more impactful than what they expected. It's also why a chaos wastes style roguelite mode wouldn't work well in shopclick. There is a massive difference in capabilities beetween a ratclick weapon lacking swift slaying because it's grey and a shopclick weapon lacking the massive bonuses to damage/cleave that it gets from its blessings.
>>498187860Just like how Brutal Momentum makes or breaks certain weapons.
my 250 auroch I have finished as dueling sword zealot with a team of smigger, plasma vet and tankgryn
>>498189269no that didn't happen
If I don't play veteran, there's no one shouting toughness back and instagibbing the bosses. And if I do play one, there's like three of us.
>>498183343Yes it's been proven multiple times before that the game will literally spawn poxwalkers right behind you. They literally just pop out of thin air.
>>498188163which weapons?
it's UPhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U6MuXsvVU4Y
>>498189930play zealot with the relic (there will be 3 of you too)
>>498190112Combat AxeMk VI power swordHeavy Sword (under the name Deathblow)Ogryn shieldOgryn shovel
>>498189930>play executioners stance veteran>there's 3 of us and a knife zealot
>>498185691They're less annoying than you bitching about people bitching
>>498190618>Combat AxePeople here say that, but I think more finesse and strength works just as well if not better because of the moveset
>malnourished faggot running at inhuman speeds with a rusty knife spamming the same attack over and overAre poxwalkers the heretic version of Zealots?
>>498190892Truly feels bad, like we're all stepping on each other's toes and fucking up the Ex Stance continuation. At least everything is getting pissed on all the time.
>>498191041At least for zealot. Kinda retarded for vet because they already get all the weakpoint bonuses.
why is the mk2 maccabian considered better than the others? the 2nd heavy attack sucks
>>498186289Isn't Thrust somewhat unnecessary? At least with certain builds they are already 1-2 shotting everything, giving up one of the other really good blessings just to meme on crushers a little bit harder seems unnecessary.
>>498191756>-2 shotting everythingwhy 2 shot things when you can 1 shot them
>>498191740first attack heavy is the poke which you can easily chain, second heavy gives it more horde clear
>>498191740It isn't though, the Mk IV is the good one
>>498187567this but I'm not exempt. we all just stand there killing hordes forever.
>>498192053no reason to run 2 over 4 though
>>498191854The only things that sometimes require a second hit are ogryns, and I can deliver two in the time that it takes to charge one thrust hit
>>498192351That's what he just said
>>498192842no reason to run 4 over 2 is what I meant
>>4981929254 doesn't have to block cancel when it wants to poke 15 machine gunners in the face
>>498193009you reset with special varlet
>>498191121that's a fitting description
>no interest in ogryn or zealot>kinda want to make a vet but everyone plays it and it's just psyker but without staves>played psyker to deathwhen the fuck are we getting a 5th class
the train is so fucking hard compared to other missions
>>498193731lmao best vet build is melee
>>498192925what's better about 2?
>>498160936Peril resistance means you can stay at high peril for longer, more comfortably. Most of your toughness generation comes from either critical hits, killing elites, or warp kills generally. These sources all come from the active use of perilous abilities, which means that the more you're casting, the more often you're getting bang for your buck. Yes, it's good to hit high peril faster for crit builds and other stuff, but you can't use that high peril for very long if your peril resistance is dogshit.
>>498193785It's just another mission which you can't solo that heavily depends on your teammate quality.
>>498194024same stab as 4 but with access to a cleaving heavy
>>498194227>>498193009just so we're clear, 4 is the one that has infinite stabs on heavies, which lets you kill elites whenever you want. Having a heavy slash like on the 2 has no value because it reduces the amount of heavies you put out elites, and the lights are fully servicable for poxwalkers and bruisers
>>498195331you don't chain heavies on any duelling sword, you cancel with the special right after
>>498195331>Having a second stab on the 4 has no value because it reduces the amount of cleave you put out on hordes and gunner packs, and the one stab is fully serviceably for elitesYou can have different opinions without trying to treat them like facts, you know.
>>498195572Why the fuck would you do that on the mk4 lol
>>498195686You see except opinions can be defensible. What you wrote is indefensibly retarded> it reduces the amount of cleave you put out on hordes and gunner packs,Except it doesn't, the lights do the same amount. You are objectively taking more time to kill elites with the MK2 for no gain. Thanks for letting me teach you that opinions can have merit.
>>498195979>Except it doesn't, the lights do the same amount.no they don't, you kill hordes way faster using the heavy>You are objectively taking more time to kill elites with the MK2 for no gain.No I'm not because most of them get oneshot and the whopping .1 more seconds it takes me to block cancel doesn't significantly increase the time it takes to kill crushers
>>498195716a little extra damage+big stagger and you animation cancel, there is no downside to doing it, I do it with the Mk IV as well which is the only dueling sword I use
>>498195716It is virtually just as fast as spamming heavies while also providing a stagger in-between, really no reason not to do it other than lazy
>>498196247>no they don't, you kill hordes way faster using the heavyBig talk for some faggot who will shut the fuck up and tuck his tail in when I get into the psykhanium to prove your retarded bad faith contrarian argument wrong in a bit
>>498196517>>498195331also, the vanguard heavy on the mk2 does more than double the damage of a light attack, and nearly six times as much damage against flak, so no you are not clearing hordes faster with just light attack spam
>>498196612>in a bitdon't tell me you're getting frustrated about a /coopg/ argument that no one is being hostile in except you away from home lol
>>498195686>You can have different opinions without trying to treat them like facts, you know.This is 4chan and internets in general, most people here are like 15-20 years old children whom nobody takes seriously IRL so they're very insecure and it's a vicious cycle. There are better ways to use your time than to argue with people you don't know on the internet, even playing the game or watching some dumb shit is better.
>>498196945>no one being hostile inacting like you weren't being a passive aggressive bitch here because I stated my opinion with conviction >>498195686already backpedaling huh
>>498197108I don't really consider telling you that just because you think the value of something else is greater doesn't mean there's no reason someone else can't appreciate other options an act of hostility, no.
Why are there so many good skills and so few skill points?
>>498196880whats a vanguard heavy
>>498197060>wahh he stated his opinion without 50 qualifiers stating that it's just his opinionsamefag more, doesn't make you any less fragile and autistic. I said absolutely nothing out of the ordinary, all I said was >clarifying that the MK4 is the all stab one>explaining my logic behind why that has more value I said absolutely nothing mean or condescending, that was all you going on about how I apparently forced my opinion on you or some shit? Like why are you trying to flip this like I'm a hostile teenager when you out of nowhere got asshurt that I posted my take on a video game weapon and made some little passive aggressive whine about it
>>498197474a sweep
>>498197419its a mark of a well balanced skill system that when you try to make a build you always feel like you are just short of a couple skill points and you have to decide between different options and never quite feel satisfied.If everything just always came together perfectly you might as well just have classes.
>>498197495the other guys on the bus are concerned they're about to get shot up because of this guy fuming on his phone right next to him
Crusher is really fun. Pulp for the pulp God.
>>498195572ty for telling me this, testing now and this shit is insane. mk2's light combo also has 4 attacks instead of mk4's 3, which is niceissue now is working the special attack into my muscle memory lol
>>498197754Next time, try not to state your opinion like it's a fact.
Does psyker take a long time to come online? I have all the classes to trust 15 and it's the only one where I'm just never really having any fun or feel like I'm doing anything effective.
>>4981974951. I don't remember talking to you or asking anything.2. You're wasting your time right now and you will also regret it sooner or later just like the guy you're arguing with, the only difference is that you're dumber.
>>498197841The crusher is objectively fun.
>>498197841That's a fact actually.
>>498197635But I can't even make it to the bottom of the tree, I spend everything well before that.
>>498197419if you could get every good skill they might as well delete the tree altogether since there'd be no variety and just have you unlock stuff at each levelthe fact that we still have people arguing about builds this far in because there's no consensus is good game design
>>498197419you're a retard if you can't figure that out
>>498198080picking up a lot of passives and ignoring the capstones is valid
>>498197941psyker sucks ass until ~25 or so, yeah. badly laid-out tree.
>>498197419It's just a vet issue because the class is overpowered. Ogryn you feel like there's nothing to spend points on, zealot there's very few choices to be made, psyker used to be the same but it's slightly more diverse now.
>>498197941I don't really think so.This should work well:https://darktide.gameslantern.com/build-editor?id=9d3b2623-d57f-4f85-9575-0a0fb3d74809Use whatever you like for melee weapon.If you want MORE DAMAG, take venting shriek.After ability nodes, you can do whatever with remaining 2 points, can go for more toughness regen or peril quell chance on kills. Can get Kinetic Resonance, Kinetic Flayer is also good if they fixed it.
>>498199980Everything that isnt an Ork or Ogryn in 40k is cringe, its a dogshit setting
shock maul is good
>>498200806at what?
>>498200806As a sex toy, yes.
>>498201137tickling my prostate
Does Fully Loaded increase mag size or ammo pool? Or both?
>>498201518The basic ups your max ammo by 25%, the ace increases your ammo pickup and gives you the chance at getting throwables
>>498202785What do you mean basic and ace? I'm talking about darktide.
Going to just ignore all the "Ummm that's just your opinion" argumentative woman posting and post actual data for anyone who cares for the comparison. For >>498191740 >>498191919 >>498195331 >>498195686>combo mk2. took from second 3 to second 16, so ~13s total.https://streamable.com/vcofcy>light spam mk2. took from 3s to 17s (one guy got stuck in the wall so I'm not counting him) so ~14s totalhttps://streamable.com/7xqx10>light spam mk4. took from 2s to 14s, so ~12s totalhttps://streamable.com/idcu48I found when doing this that the combo method is annoying because push attacks dont combo into the heavy slash. So it's kind of hard to not accidentally end up doing pokes. It's slower anyway, so no reason to bother. In conclusion I would say these approaches are realistically all the same (I'm sure there's some margin of error with poxwalker movement RNG) but it can be said without a doubt that using the MK2 heavy slash doesn't impart vastly better horde clear or anything, which was the original claim. The MK4 with light spam is more or less the exact same if not slightly better, and has access to better heavies. >>498195572 also tested if using the followup special attack is even worth it. On crushers with uncanny (which would benefit it) at least it's not.1633 dps by just heavy spamming with the MK4, 1233 dps by using the special between every hit with the MK4, 1519 with MK2. I won't bother recording this, it's easy to test. The special does like 50 damage and makes the actual stabs come out slower, it's not really worth.
does damage reduction (gunner) affect all ranged enemies or just specifically the gunner special
>>498202962I forgot to mention, it's 20 groaners and 5 bruisers each time
>>498203053It affects me personally
>>498195686I agree, the people who said the MK2 has better horde clear were clearly not being factual
>>498202962who the hell runs uncanny + rampage?
>>498203053only gunner elites, not regular shooter enemies
>>498203502I run them specifically for the horde clear cause the weapon sucks ass without these. It does the single target part well enough without blessings, but without that blessing combo these same horde samples would take you like 30 seconds to kill probably
>>498203668that's pretty backwards thinking but whatever
>>498203053dreg/scab gunners and reapers
>>498203739It isn't really no. Kill time on crushers is like 1-2 stabs on a proper build anyway. Don't need more single target damage
>>498203668>uncanny for horde clearerm why not run the superior Shred+Rampage
>>498203879cause hordes can have bruisers in them which have flak parts where uncanny helps it a lot for the lights (almost 3x damage)
>>498204001lil bro crits ignore armor
>>498204050No, they don't, my nigger friend. Feel free to refer to the weapon damage sheet where you'll see reduced damage against flak and carapace even on a crit compared to unarmored.
>>498204160>>498204001I forgot to mention, I also like to run perilous combustion, and the soulblaze stacks get massive benefits from uncanny being stacked. On scab melee only I can often kill all the maulers just by stabbing the crushers when I frontline. I'm not sure I'd run the same blessing combo on zealot or vet though since they have more crit stuff
Bruh>HISTG>Team goes down>Last one alive>Take out a wave of Crushers, Maulers and Mutants(Oh My)>Fight my way up stairs before finale (Archivum Sycorax. The stairs before the spiral staircase)>Massive wave of Gunners, Reapers, Tox bombers>Throw Molly's at key points and dash in>Actually do a good job of wiping out most of the horde>Then my F/Dash stops responding>Get shot the fuck up and pounced while spamming F and trying to dodge>Team says I did an amazing job regardless and it was the one of the "most valiant" last stands they had seenI'm upset though. Could've had that one.
>>498202962based for testing wonder why mk2's light attacks aren't better considering the combo is longer
>>498202962>>498204160based, as usual
>surge staff primary>dodge on crit>press w gaming
>>498198080Then you're just stupid
don't like psyggers much
>hate knigger zealots>if I want to do all zealot penances I need to become oneno....
>>498210143no you don't have to play like a monkey in an indian temple
i named my character afyer a chaos space marine
Which of these 2 insignias is a bigger "Oh that guy kinda knows how to play the game" indicator??
>>498212115I don’t even look at those. I use the charms because I like them and use the weapon customization mod to add more on my guns
>>498212321weapon charms look awful and I don't use a single one
Zapmaxxing with an electrosurge staff and a shockmaul.
>>498213378I’ll try this out tomorrow
>cant get any adrenaline going whatsoever unless its a maelstrom last man standing clutch situationi think i need to find a different game, ive milked this shit for every last drop of dopamine possible
What's a good build for Voice of Command Vet? Still haven't finished getting mine to 30 yet
>ERROR CODE 2014OH BOY I SURE LOVE DISCONNECTING TO THE SAME BULLSHIT THATS BEEN HERE SINCE LAUNCHI LOVE LOSING MY WOUNDS TO A BOT BEING RETARDEDI LOVE INPUT DELAYI LOVE THE SERVERS BEING ON VACATIONI FUCKING LOVE SWEDES SO GODDAMN MUCH
>>498215212for me, it's the melee and ranged build
>>498215212rapier or powersword, and plasma/revolver/bolt pistol. toughnessmaxxed curios
>>498215212This one is mine with revolver and chainsword. Whole build is based around killing in ranged which buffs when I swap to melee, then killing in melee which buffs when I swap to ranged. So you blender in melee until you need to dome an elite or special then you get back to melee blendering. The talent at the bottom right will return a little ammo from your ammo pool to your magazine when you get the weapon swap buff. For some weapons it's a pitiful amount, but for strong 1-shot weapons that is all you need.
>>498215523>krak + rapier/powersword/plasma/bolt pistol that trivialize carapaceWhy. And if you say for boss damage I'm uninviting you from my aurics.
>>498215780point economy. and i would actually edit this to swap the toughness+rending node for the melee damage+agile engagement
Give me a single reason I should play anything but Ogryn
>>498215501>>498215523>>498215620Thanks anons. I was going for something similar but wasn't sure where to put the last few points when I get them. I've been using Powersword + Plasma but was thinking of switching the sword for something else since I already maxed the mastery on it. Rapier looks good although I don't have a good one on my vet, I've been using a Catachan sword for now. Really liking the Weapon specialist keystone.
>>498216219Benance
>>498212115Just use whatever you look cool. Historically the hardest isnignias/character frames to acquire tend to be massive red flags that the player is a turboshitter.
>>498167586The most manlet aeldari in existence then.
>>498217725he is gay and he has AIDS
>>498185040Hit guys with your melee until the little box at the bottom says 10 and then headshot an elite.
>>498212115I just use the triple purity seals because I like purity seals, I think they're silly
I LOVE how I still cant choose to fight Dregs or Scabs and have to keep hoping to get Dregs so I can finally finish these fucking weekly quest despite the fact that I already ran like 20 missions and only fought Dregs fucking once. I hope these Swedish faggots get raped by Muslims.
>>498216219only has like 5 melee weapons so the game gets repetitive quickly
>>498219457>goes back to playing dueling saber and revolver on all classes
>>498219457Why does the supposed melee oriented class only have 5 melee weapons (and one ranged weapon that is also a melee)
>>498219915Ogryn sucks ass.
>>498219265>by MuslimsSorry only scabs available
>>498219915Because Fatshark severely overestimated the amount of effort they're willing to put in. It's why I'm concerned for new classes (if we ever get one). They're going to have 2-3 unique weapons and the rest will be the shared vet/zealot/psyker pool.
>>498219265most missions have both you dumb fuck
>>498219915All three other classes are better at melee by a gigantic margin. Yes, even psyker.
>>498221071No they don't
how are you guys progressing your weapon masteries? some i can just play through but others im just dumping plasteel and dockets to level because they suck too much. on a side note., does completing all the penances feel good, or do you still feel empty inside?
>>498219915the ogryn is like the barbarian from diablo 2. it is the worst class unless youre the top 1% of players who have the prefect gear and fundamentals of the game ogrynns can do crazy shit human classes couldnt fathom
>>498221268Unironically the best feeling penances are just getting through missions X times etcI don't feel anything about hitting a sniper with a nade or switching to a shit build to get something done, except hatred towards Sw*d*n
>>498219678I refuse to use the shared weapons on multiple classes. I use>chainaxe>crusher>knife>dueling sword>thunder hammer>heavy swordon zealot>devil's claw>power sword>chainsword>combat axe>shovel>shock maulon vetand just force swords on psyker
>>498221834thankfully im done with the class penances besides throwing knoves which should be easy. i like how i can actually play the game
>>498220010>>498220640>>498221123>>498221656Thats unfortunate but it will never stop me from being a large british retard
>>498221176retard
>>498175705>>498190125The last half kinds sounds like it took inspiration from daft punk rollin' and Scratchin https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q27KtfR1ESA
>>498212115The one you get from unlocking a ton of penances. It means you have conquered the game.
What is impact and rending?
>>498223546Stagger and armor penetration
people say darktide is good now, what changes were actually made? i tried it during the initial beta as someone with 4k hours in vermintide 2, but i prefer 40k over fantasy so it should be THE game for me, but i absolutely hated everything about it. every change from v2 to darktide was a terrible choice, they repeated the mistakes of v2, removed the soulfull voicelines, introduced new grave mistakes like fix difficulty on rotating maps and a gacha style loot system. did they revert all of that shit or did they just spray glitter on top?
>>498223805>StaggerIf that is stagger, then what does Strength do?
>>498224202The gacha loot is gone for the most part at least.
>>498224202play it faggot. see for yoyrswld
>>498224264Strength is formerly called Power; it applies to damage, cleave, and stagger.
>>498224403>yoyrswldWho?
>>498224202Those things you dislike haven't changed. They've slowly "engoodened" the game from the shitheap it was at the beginning, I would say after the recent update we are finally at a 1.0 release... nearly two years into the game's life. There still needs to be many, many changes for it to reach the level VT2 is on.
>>498224520he meant juicewrld the rapper
>>498146721I angled my mouse in a very specific weird way and I use a very high DPI mouse so I barely need to move my hand at all to play a game. I don't even know what carpal tunnel means.
>>498224520You or your rancid sister wants lepricon dickAnon's a knower.
>>498224403>buy it >play it for at least 2hours before realising there is still a lot of shit buried>cant refundno
>last mission for auric exemplar>snow mission>had to clutch as the last man standing 3 different times>Total Deaths:11People who cheated for it will never know this catharsis.
Which dueling sword model, what blessings
>>498224406>Strength is formerly called PowerSome blessings say Strength and some say Power, are those the same now?
>>498226417>Which dueling sword modelThe one you like the best>what blessingsWhatever works for you.
>>498226441Please understand.
>>498226735Anon..
>>498226076Theres snow missions now? Havent played in a bout a years, what else have I missed?
>>498226919>missions>sOh anon you kidder. There's a snow mission, a train mission, achievements for a notBattlePass that awards the dinkiest cosmetics, and 4 new weapons: bolt pistol, ogryn pickaxes, shock sticks, and a double barrel shotgun. And of course the crafting system finally being unfucked.
>>498226441All of em should say strength now
did snipers get a stealth buff?three fucking times in a row now a sniper has 'shot' me...NONE of those times did the bullet come anywhere CLSOE to me.first time I had an entire building between me and it, with my ass humping the wall so there is no way it had an angle.second time i had a nice fat steel pillar.third time i had a set of stairs and the big solid block of concrete it lead up to behind me.all three times the beam is clearly nowhere near me. all three times i am clearly in a safe spot when BOOM, I am shot.
>>498230909if the sniper is targeting a teammate you don't get the warning
>>498230909Both the hitbox and the timing is completely fucked if they're aiming at someone else. I've had them shoot straight through walls to kill me when aiming at an Ogryn behind me.
Is there a way to skip/cancel Scrier's slow-down/speed debuff on its activation? It's getting really annoying. I'll want to use the 20% speed buff, but I gotta wait for the slow-on-activation bullshit to stop first.
behind enemy lines is the worst penances in the game
>>498227356>double barrelthe biggest letdown in the history of the gamethat shit is so ass and doesn't even feel cool to use
>>498236057>>498236057>>498236057>>498236057>>498236057MIGRATE
>>498157091The special attack on that is severely underrated. I once deleted an entire rager pack with a single grenade punch.
