Praying to the Omnissiah for a patch soon edition>Latest patch (Hotfix 3.1)https://store.steampowered.com/news/app/2183900/view/4696782040358852369>September community update:https://community.focus-entmt.com/focus-entertainment/space-marine-2/blogs/93-september-community-update>First developer Q&A:https://community.focus-entmt.com/focus-entertainment/space-marine-2/blogs/84-message-to-the-community-a-first-q-a>Roadmap:https://store.steampowered.com/news/app/2183900/view/4238536974144553830>Where to get the game:https://www.focus-entmt.com/en/games/warhammer-40000-space-marine-2>Lore Stuff:https://1d6chan.miraheze.org/wiki/Main_Pagehttps://wh40k.lexicanum.com/wiki/Main_Page>For jolly cooperation with your battle brothers (Can also post codes for jolly coop/PvP. Edit Squad -> Invite Menu):https://steamcommunity.com/groups/sm2general>Workaround with matchmaking (not finding players, only 2/3):Back out to the main menu and re-enter battle barge.>/sm2g/ Dude Wall - compilation of Dudes and information on how to submit themhttps://rentry.org/dudewallsm2gPrevious: >>498121156
updatebros...
I am 4D-fying this thread.
>>4982577172 more weeks
>>498257701The only server the host actually hosts is the battle barge. Otherwise the host only dictates what region/datacenter the dedicated server their backend defaults to for the actual game
>Titus goes to arch magos>"I need gravis armor">"No">"I'm doing an orbital drop">"No">"Come on man tactis armor won't cut it">"You have a 66% of scuffing the gravis armor. No"What a dick. He cared more about the armor than the marine.
>>498258426Well, yeah? He's a tech priest.
>>498258426That is pretty good for a techpriest. Normally they wouldn't have the patience for that and stop speaking to you in gothic.
I am fortifying this thread.
So looking at the numbers for lower difficulties and extrapolating I would expect the following modifiers for LETHAL:>Player Modifiers:> -35% max health.> -50% armor segment size> +400% grenade damage to enemies> -40% dodge invulnerability and perfect dodge windows> +80% gun strike damage.>AI Bots:> +500% health for MINORIS, MAJORIS, EXTREMIS, and TERMINUS classes.>General:> Respawn time: No respawn until checkpoint > Incapacitation limit: 1> Friendly fire OFF (also for enemies)
Work tech-janny or no toaster.
>>498260768Everyone will just run Melta and PlasmaGood job making people just run Inferno and Ballistic Engine ad infinitum
>>498260768>nerfing armor, health and dodge>no new tier of weaponsI'm not touching it.
>gold the bolt sniper rifle>it doesnt nuke like the Las Fusil with worse ammo economyWHAT IS THE POINT REEEEEEEE
>>498260768Lethal should make everyone squishy, both player and enemy.
>>498260768They should take the normal mode bug and make it a feature instead. I actually like the mass hordes, I just dislike the shitty lack of exp.
>>498261469Seconding this.
>>498258426
>>498261370Never play bolt rifle
>>498256924I wish the Thunder Hammer's heavy attacks could interrupt majoris attacks so I'm incentivised to go for them more often on anything other than chaff.
You have Captain Diomedes!
>see people saying vanguard is bad>play it>it's fun as fuck
>>498263031Holy throne, nice parries!
>>498263031as long as vanguard is stuck with riever armor he is literally unplayable
>>498263031>meltasissy-3/10 webm
>>498263206Are you the same guy who spergs out when you catch someone using the grenade launcher?
>>498263129Oh please. If just one of the warriors had thrown out a red attack, he would have eaten shit.
>>498263384>saying that noobtubers that constantly stagger you are annoying to play with is sperging outmkay
>>498263384What's wrong with using the grenade launcher? It's pretty mediocre. Nothing nooby about it.
>>498263552>Oh please. If just one of the warriors had thrown out a red attack, he would have eaten shit.>Litteraly the warrior on the left 0:11no comments.
>>498260768No way lethal difficulty fucks with the player's stuff, especially dodge and parry windows.
>>498263631But you don't just do that, you also whine at people for using weapons that actually do real damage and don't make you feel like you're spitting at the enemy.
Is it true that Relic Fencing chainsword is fucked?
>>498264057Mate... All the game difficulties do that.Ruthless already cuts the window for perfect parries by 35%
>>498263996That was just a regular attack, you fool.
>>498264241You should only be maining cholers teeth, anyway. 15 damage holy crap. Get fucked, minorises.
>>498264241It was. Maybe it got fixed in the patch?
>>498263031you get a nice dodge and access to knife, as well as some easy health regen, but the cost is bringing basically nothing to the team, no significant boss damage, and unfortunately decimus is the biggest babboon ape nigger I've ever seen or heard
>>498261370somehow purple bolt feels better than purple laser on Diff 3, but I guess perks drop off that hard for Diff 4 and Relic
>carnifex>dodge>get gunstrike perfect dodge trigger>still take damage>dodge>get gunstrike perfect dodge trigger>still take damage>dodge>get gunstrike perfect dodge trigger>still take damageFun game
>>498264841>but the cost is bringing basically nothing to the teamHe can at least beeline past the front line towards nuisance enemies like snipers or barbed stranglers and tie them up.
>>498264469Nuh-uh.
>Want to level Heavy or Tactical>Join lobby after an aeon of loading>Tactical and Heavy>Switch to another class and play game or leaveIt's all so tiresome
Love how powerful Bulwark's parries are with all the perks but it's annoying how I explode if the parry isn't just right.
>>498264841>MAGAZINE OUT>MAGAZINE INGod just shut the fuck up, Decimus. I wish he didn't have that stupid accent.
>>498265839That was obviously for some attack towards a team mate, since we never see the red circle when the camera zooms out.
>>498265848Just start a game on your own as the class you want to play; it doesn't take long for people to join in progress.
>>498266093There's no option to host your own game
>>498265848If only you could start your own lobby.
>>498266148Choose the level you want to play and immediately stand in the deployment zone. If it finds a group before you get the chance, back out of it and try again.
>>498265972I like that specific voice line, especially after I've just finished killing a bunch of shit
>>498266183It doesn't work like that, if you stand in the zone and you get put in a group it will load you in to a game regardless. And in my 140 hours of playing I have yet to see it host a game before putting me in with some randos
>>498266323Dude I do it all the time and I haven't been inadvertently put into a game I didn't want to be in, at least not yet. Just try it.
>no option to start a private game and turn private off once you're in the match to guarantee you host
>>498263669good bait
>>498266508You get 4 nades that do mid damage to majoris and then a shit-ass bolter rifle. Big nothing.
>>498264579its so slow
>>498266623more like 11 nades that do insane damage
>>498266623as mentioned its >>4982667022 grenades are enough to stun a majoris and you get a full fill up every 30 seconds for a majoris. the grenades have less AoE than regular frags though, so using them smart is necessary if you want to crowd clear
>>498266079You can see the glow of the red circle on the edge of the screen while I'm doing the gun strike. I will admit I got lucky with the gun strike ending at the exact perfect moment for me to dodge.
>>498264841He's funny on occasion (like when he mocks the Daemonhost) though I'm not sure if that accent fits his voice lines
>>498266623later you get 8 nades that 2-3 shot multiple majoris and almost fuck a boss with 8 nades. its fucking busted
>>498266623Why are you saying wrong things that are not right?
>>498267017>2-3 shot Majoris>8 nades for a BossDoes not compute.
>>498266920Don't listen to the AKSHUALLY dumbass, good parryinganyway,update when
>>498267102>shoot 3 grenades>do absolutely nothing>auspex>shoot 3 more to killThat's not great. Also, everything is good when shooting at an Auspexed enemy.
>>498267102Why did your ammo refill?
>>498267497tac perk gives you a stack of ammo for a majoris kill every 30 seconds
Why is the nigmarine wearing a crop top?
>>498268095Why does he look like 50 Cent?
>>498268273All black people look the same.>>498268095All black people are the same.
>>498263031>Spamming Melta and parry>WOAH this class is so Good!???
>>498266920>Gun starts recoiling before bullet comes out
>>498267662It's so hard to take that perk over the auto reload perk. The reload perk works great with a melta.
>>498268452Guns do start recoiling before the bullet comes out. The timing is still fucked, his pistol is already off at an angle when you get the muzzle flash, it's typically negligible in real life unless it's a relatively low power long barrel rifle.
>>498268452Kinetic energy transfers faster than chemical propulsion
>>498265681not that thats wrong, but others can just shoot them.vanguard is the most selfish class. if you want to provide something for the team you are going for inner fire, but thats just snipers team perc in very bad. the basic increase to melee damage is somewhat interesting, but you dont really want a team that benefits from that because more melee means shitter bossdamage and vanguard is already shit at bossdamage. i´ve tried to be "reasonable" with instigator and chainsword but knife and melta is just much more effective overall. and the whole parry stuff is a odd thing. i dont know what it is but if i pick a "balanced" weapon with the 50% increased window perc parry feels like absolute ass, especially on the chainsword. the 1 speed on that thing generally makes me want to kill myself (just tried to make max melee damage with the dumb windup attack work, it doesn´t)
>meltanigger has an open mic again>chimps out when you tell him to shut the fuck up
>>498269038They're the same thing, you know.
>>498269143What's the proper way to use knife?
>>498269675you slice and dice
>>498270412nice
>>498269675i dont really have a answer for that, like i wont pretend that i figured it out. i tried pure light attack spam with all of the % reduced ranged damage taken perks (you can reach 50% on vanguard) or simply the % damage increase for heavys when doing heavys. i had the best feeling with the heavy stacking build, despite usually avoiding those stacking percs because as soon as you have to parry multiple majoris, reposition or do a execution/catching a minoris all the stacks are gone. with the chainsword i have a definitive line that i prefer, with the knife everything feels kinda eh.
>Decide to replay SM1>That opening cutsceneIt's amazing. It's just a text chat between some guys, but the music, pacing and flashing of the words really works.
>>498271587I felt like overall SM1 was just a better conceptualized game in terms of story and characters. And Titus's voice actor was so damn good.But to be fair the last stand scene in 2 is without a doubt the series highlight so far.
>>498268886uhm....it refills your active mag, so it is functionally identical except with cooldown and it doesnt deplete your stored ammo?
>>498272615I don't think it works like that.
>>498273568
>can't color the helmet golden for my blood angels veteranShit game 0/10.
>>498273568no, thats how it works, thats why you still use ammo variants with this perk, and why plasma is sorta busted, it "only" restores 30 shots, nut it removes ammo micro management.
>>498268095to show off his space abs>>498268273Fiddy is unexpectedly the most based gangster rapper. Brother Cent brings his dry humor and wit to the chapter.>Listen, Ork. I'll give you one million teef if you can read this book.>I looked at the cogitator and it said the Chaplain has admonished Brother Tee-Eye, Brother Nellius, and Brother Cent. I just got out of stasis, why is he chastising me? Nellius absconded with an entire squad of Sisters of Battle, assign penance to that Battle Brother
>>498274057>can't colour the entire armor golden for my celestial lionShit game 0/10.
>>498274109>>498274109plasma used to get topped off completely ,because it technically only had "one" magazine. that shit was hilarious
>>498274057It's weird too because there's other metallic colors there.I'm guessing they just dumped out the customization ASAP as the last thing on the list.But they already adjusted some of the colors, said visors are coming next update and have Heraldry options marked as high priority so it'll probably be added soon
>>498274432watch them nerf the nade launcher the same way2 nades per majoris/30sinstant low tier gun
>>498274616probably not 2, but 50% or something. which is still 5-6 nades enough to clear a set of majoris
>>498274714with plasma its 1/3rd of base ammo capacitythe nade launchers base capacity is 6, so it would be 2
>>498274714"noo they won't nerf my cope bullshit broken gun into balance, they'll nerf it so it's only broken, not bullshit broken"
>>498271925SM2 also has that one scene where Gadriel makes the "codex astartes does not support this action" callback, and the subsequent conversation where Titus levels with Gadriel about how Titus improperly led Leandros in SM1. That was a good scene.
>>498274109>no, thats how it worksI don't think so. It doesn't work that way and doesn't reload your melta.
>>498264467
>>498275019sure, thats not how it works, then tell me, how does it work?
>>498275510so it generates ammo for plasma & grenade but does just reload on the normal bolters? because i just got my hopes up you could actually sustain the SMG with this shit and it just reloads the weapon.
>>498276692its not just a reload, it generates ammo up to your mag capacityHBR at 6/60? 54 ammo gainedstalker at 5/10? 5 ammo gainednothing will save the smg
who would win in Ahriman vs Fabius
>>498277003Rick and Morty fans would win that one
>>498277003tzeench
>>498276940i just did a run with the reload on execute perc and it did not generate ammo on execute at all, it just reloads until nothing is left
>>498277178Are we talking about tactical's perk?
>>498277178thats not whats being talked aboutits about the reload perk vs the refill perksame column, top vs bottom
>>498277325yesFinal Shot: After a Finisher, the equipped Ranged Weapon reloads automatically.Unlock at level 4
>>498277394cute retard
>>498277539wtf are you on about, its literally what >>498277374said
>>498277640Any other answer is wrong
>>498277625nta, btwsome guy was saying you should use the finisher perk on melta, which is objectively bad
>>498277640the whole point of this back and forth was that someone said that final shot would refill grenades/plasmaammo, so i got curious and tested it, it does not work for boltersif you would actually read what you are replying to i would not have to repeat myself, retard
Man the heavy bolter just does no fucking damage. I am giving up on levelling it until bolt weapons get buffed.Do you think they got the stats backwards between the heavy bolt rifle and the bolt rifle? Like, the heavy bolt rifle shoots faster and does less damage than the bolt rifle. Like...???
>>498277921i find your lack of reading comprehension disheartening>guy asks why ammo did refill>guy tells him its refill perk>melta guy chimes in its hard to pick for melta since it is not the auto reload perk>i tell him it DOES reload the current mag>other guy says thats its not how it works (objectively wrong)
>>498278178>Bolt Rifle>25 bullets, shoots slow, more damage>Heavy Bolt Rifle>45 bullets, shoots fast, less damageNo.
>>498278178assuming by heavy bolter you meant the heavy bolt rifle, not....the heavy bolterHBR is fine, you got heaps of ammo, and decent pen for a bolter, probably just built the perks badly
>played operations for 62 hours this weeki need more content
just noticed, the smg has an alternate version that turns it from a spamcannon into a ...marksman?whats the point? we already have like 3 "marksman" bolters
>>498279645same but PVP and only capture and control
>>498275510>>498276940Are you just dumb or do you not understand that one perk adds ammo to your reserve while the other instantly reloads your current magazine?
i say this all the time & everytime it gets ignored. emperors fury should generate a % of total ammo, not a mag. even if bolters would be generally on the same power level as plasma and grenades the ammo economy for bolters is terrible with emperors vengeance. sometimes you kill a majoris with like 5 ammo missing well fuck you, you get 5 ammo back and its on cooldown now.
>>498278481>other guy says thats its not how it worksAnd I'm right!
>>498280312NTA but you are wrong.
>>498279756It is a semi auto rifle that doesn’t scope in when you zoom and fires basically as fast as you can pull the trigger, imo it’s pretty awesome, lets sniper play cqc in pve with respectable damage output, with good ammo supply
>>498280083IT DOESNT ADD TO RESERVE YOU STUDIP CUNT
I will debate anyone on any of these.
>>498263031wow another meltafag..anyway
>>498280723
>>498280723versatility is i'd say meh....i dont really use the pistol when i'm playing tact, unless i'm using the stalkeri dont like really and of the perks in the 3rd gear column, so i stick with 50% minoris dmg while on cdaoe on finisher is i'd say bad, unless youre playing melee focused, if it had less cd, like 15-30 sec maybe, but with 90 sec...no, i'd rather delete and extremis for basicly free
I never wanted this. I never wanted to unleash my salt. Together we banished the trash mobs of the Tyranids.But YOU betrayed PvE. You betrayed us all. You stole bandwidth from the host, and lied to your squadmates. SM2 has only one chance to prosper. If you will not seize it, then I WILL.SO LET IT BE PVP.From the skies of Decapitation to Seize Ground. Let my blood boil, let the salt grow. Though it takes the LAST. DROP. OF. MY. BLOOD. I will see the game become fun once more.And if I cannot have fun anymore...THEN LET THE SERVERS BURN.....
>>498281209
I hate how much the campaign shits on Thousand Sons when they never did anything wrong. One of the zoomeris faggots even references Burning of Prospero as if it was some glorious victory instead of a tragedy it actually was.
>>498281545Magnus is a bitch faggot. He and his legion deserved every ounce of suffering they got.
>>498279904i can't get into pvp, playing as heretics seem cool but pvp is too sweaty
>>498281426+dmg on overheat is build dependant, versatility i'd say is build dependent too, but i accept the "good" ratingi like 20% dmg reduction after halo deactivationi thing equipment charge on 10 rapid kills is trash15% ranged dmg while halo is on cd is objectively better than refresh on revival or explosion on halo BREAKING
>>498281751Kys furry
>>498280656It does. Otherwise the perks wouldn't be different.
>>498281545Magnus the Retard deserves it
>>498281545>'hey stop dicking around with the warp, you're getting into shit you don't understand and you're going to fuck everything up'>continue dicking around with the warp>fuck everything upthen they went full retard chaosfags so yeah, I take great pleasure in exploding a sorcerers head with a last fusil
>>498281545Joining chaos was pretty wrong imo.
Magnus allowed the burning of prospero by disarming everyone.A thousand sons sorcerer can kill 100 snow furry marines. The captains could also sense the sisters of silence by the epicenters of warp nulls and shot them in the heads with their pistols from across tizca.Magnus could have won but he wanted to lose.
>>498282336they still are, one refills your active mag on "majoris or higher KILL" with 30 sec cooldownthe other, reloads from reserve on ANY finisher, minoris, majoris, melee finisher, gunstrike finisher, dont matter, reloads
>>498280723Relentless Pursuit (Column 2 Perk 2) is supposed to be Good, my mistake.>>498281378Versatility is objectively an S tier perk. It's a permanent 20% sidearm damage buff with no requirement and no cooldown. In 3rd Column, you can offset the 2nd Perk by taking Priority Targeting in the first column. Trading Auspex for Minoris (who gives a fuck) vs an 8 second long, huge damage buff. This is ideal for nuking Terminus enemies.AOE Finisher basically means free horde clear. Sometimes it does nothing, sometimes it means if you're completely swarmed all enemies around you explode into dust. The Extremis one-shot is also good; it's just too inconsistent. Either you run a full CD build, or you try to save it hoping an Extremis shows up instead of blowing up every single Majoris. >>498281945>+dmg on overheat is build dependantIs it? Unless you're only shooting half your mag and then cooling, you're going to be overheating basically every single fight. >i like 20% dmg reduction after halo deactivationWhy? You're basically choosing a perk that says, "I plan on losing all my armor every single fight and then taking damage">i thing equipment charge on 10 rapid kills is trashAgain, why? Heavy is one of the best add-clear classes. This perk effectively gives you 3 Kraks, 2 Meltas, 3 Shocks, etc.>15% ranged dmg while halo is on cd is objectively betterGenerally I agree, although if you're completely specialized into expending Iron Halo and taking advantage of the other perks that do as well, it shines.
>>498282647Fagnus and his legion of nerds got bodied by a bunch of barely literate furrys Cope and seethe all you want but that will never not be funny
>Glorius Victory>Win any match in Eternal War modeA quarter of the players have this.People who think there are going to be major pvp updates past what is on the current road map are seriously deluding themselves. They are going to hardcore switch focus to additional pve content in all upcoming updates.
>>498282503>create a legion that can tap into warp>allow them to use warp powers for 2 centuries>ok now it's time to stop, no I won't elaborate why
>>498284259good
>>498281426doesn´t 20% to charged attacks also improve plasma weapons?
>>498281545Magnus was told to do nothing, and he did it wrong.
>>498284860From what I understand it only affects the Stomp attacks.
>>498281545It's part of the tragedy that nobody even knows the Tsons were loyalists and that the burning was a huge mistake.I assume, I only read the first 3 heresy books
>>498285782Magnus damned his legion to chaos 3 times before the burning of prospero occurred. The only option left was extermination.
>>498285782>Tsons were loyalistsLol.>burning was a huge mistake.The mistake was not finishing the job.
>>498286231They WERE loyalists during the Burning, retarded furfag.
>>498285782The more written of Magnus the more it seems like he was metagaming to get the worst ending possible. It's almost amazing how he always took the shittiest choice
>>498285631>From what I understandWhere is this understanding arriving from?Given that plasma weapons have perks with identical wording, I would imagine it would affect them too
>>498283568>Versatility is objectively an S tier perk. It's a permanent 20% sidearm damage buff with no requirement and no cooldown.it does have a requirement, no reloading , it goes away after reloads, but i suppose its better than the column alternatives, i just dont make use of it, so i like the chance at 25% dmg more>Is it? Unless you're only shooting half your mag and then cooling, you're going to be overheating basically every single fight.yes, melta does not have overheat iit is 100% wasted there>Why? You're basically choosing a perk that says, "I plan on losing all my armor every single fight and then taking damage"its on halo deactivation not breaking, so you can technicly trigger it voluntarily, and its nice eating 20% less shit when your halo does break, for me, way better than a nade when i manage rapid kills, which is kinda hard to trigger on anything non-melta or an armor segment, which you probably have full when your halo breaks anyway >Again, why? Heavy is one of the best add-clear classes. This perk effectively gives you 3 Kraks, 2 Meltas, 3 Shocks, etc.honestly i sometimes forget i have nades with heavy, you primary gun is just so good at clearing hordessry for late reply, was actualy playing the game
>>498286480>willingly give away his eye to Tzzentch>openly violates Emperor's decree>literally open a door for daemons to flood TerraWhatever you say.
>bulwark runs ahead miles in the map>vanguard is away about the same distance, but at the very back of the mapand that after i made sure to re-switch into a class not taken all the time because both of them kept picking the stuff i had. back to playing with bots
>>498280723>>498281209>>498281426>he unlocks every perkngmi
>>498287196I've lost more money to the cap that it costs to get all those perks.
>>498286984no, plasma perks say "charged shot"class perk says "charged attacks"would probably be less confusing if it said "heavy attacks"
>>498283568>Relentless Pursuit (Column 2 Perk 2) is supposed to be Good, my mistake.I was JUST about to unload on you over that one, still some other questionable choices in there though.
>>498287109None of that disproves Magnus' disloyalty and regular TS weren't even aware of any of this.
I think raveners should have been majoris.
>one more run and Stalker is done>all that is left then is Carbine on Tacso close to freedom lads
>>498288149prayers, i used carbine on average for the achievo, and even there it was complete ass
>>498286984I'm not 100% sure actually. There's a guy on their Discord who has been looking into it a lot. At first he said that Overcharge doesn't actually affect the Plasma.Then later he said it does actually affect the Plasma, but only the Incinerator, not the Pistol. I can't find anything solid on it from the Devs.>>498287096>yes, melta does not have overheatYou're right, that is true. I literally didn't even consider Melta lol.
>>498287758It was never about his loyalty, after the webway got fucked it was clear that Magnus and the 1ksons were only going to cause more trouble than they were worth
>>498287774I actually sorta like it now. There's still some skub but it's much better compared to the first revision.I think Ravener is Extremis purely because of the gimmick. Now do Tyranids.Can't believe we didn't get Hive Guards or Tyrant Guards. Especially considering Hive Tyrant mission and upcoming Capillary Tower destruction mission.
>>498284330>no I won't elaborate why>because I don't need to, I'm the fucking emperor and I said NO
>>498288471Sounds like bro is figuring shit out as he goes (which is fine) but making definitive statements along the way (which is bad). I'd be taking my salt ration with his declarations.
>>498288471these are my picks, though i'd make one change, remove 20% health from the default picks, its gotten kinda useless since they removed overheal
>>498287758First one's a wash- it could just be Magnus being a retard.Second and third events were Magnus 100% defying the Emperor and having too much hubris to admit he overstepped to the Emperor.
Codes or too early?
What enemy would (you) add to make fighting Thousand Sons fun?
>>498289371I'm in the process of booting up as we speak, post it
>>498289097>First one's a wash- it could just be Magnus being a retardWeren't Jimmy Space a retard here as well? He knew that Magnus somehow cured the flesh change which cost him his eye, and did nothing.
>>498289490Pink and blue horrors. Killing pinks makes 2 blues. Also tweak the rubric AI to actually fucking melee in melee range instead of teleporting away so you can actually parry gunstrike them.
>>498281545They deserved it for being nerds.Ahriman is the coolest space wizard though looks far cooler than his daddy.
>>498288749I'm dead sure they plan on adding at least the hive guard with shock cannon and venomthropesno reason to implement a shock grenade mechanic and a foggy poisoned effect otherwise
>>498289371>>498289583Well?Least say you are a pussy so I'm not just sitting here waiting.
>>498289490Screamers.Give Tyranids Shrikes too.
>>498281209overcharge is build dependant i'd say, bonks are kinda its own playstyle, while armor on all gunstrikes is more generally usefuli think zealous blow (10% charge on Ground pound kill) is also sorta dependent, its absolute bonkers vs a swarm of nids, but if all you hit is majoris, then youre not really doing anythingtoughonly leveled assault to 13 so far, really fun class with the thunderhammer though.nids are fun, but i'm having a decent amount of truble with tsons, they dont cluster and generaly, when i'm dealing with rubrics, the tzangors chew me up, and when i'm dealing with tzangors the rubrics blast me to hell
>>498289998>and a foggy poisoned effectTangential to this: Its bullshit that the chaos can apply their effect so quickly. You can literally get one shot into the mass illusion effect by an attack from a majoris or the sorcerer. That's way too far.
>>498290360Say that to my face, nigger.XPDGY
>>498289490There are so many tzeentch demons they could add IDK why they didn't. Thousand Sons have so few unit types on the table top they really should have put like 3 demon units into SM2.
>>4982907052/3
>>498290607You have to play insanely safely vs Chaos on Assault. Power Fist is genuinely a good choice for them though. Hammer is also very good if you spec into GP Damage, a fully charged GP will one-shot a Rubrik marine.
Damage numbers per shotNOT Damage Per Second
>>498290853There's only screamers and the lord of change, neither of which we actually fight They should add pink horrors minoris and blue horror majoris that split into two pink horrors when we kill them
>>498291279the pink horrors are the ones that split into blues though
>>498291130This game really needs another balance pass lmfao.
DU5JS, The Apothecarion is open.
>>498291130>plasma pistol does less damage per short than bolt pistol despite having less ammo
>force helmets on>bots do not wear helmets at all>story characters do not wear helmets in cutscenesWouldn't want to hide all that diversity I guess. But this option feels kind of wasted like this.
>>498287774>things that will never happenThey've already said a sm3 is going to be a thing
>>4982919382/3
>>498287774>warp spiders not majoris
>>498292763I assume that what he means by Aspect Squad. Listing all Aspect Warrior types out would take a bit of space.
YPVN3Roofless, bring whatever you want to level
If I swap from a green weapon that I'm still levelling to a relic weapon that I've already maxed out mid-mission, will all of the experience go to the gray weapon?
>>498296181It splits it.
They should focus on PVP more
>>498292379I rather have them expand SM2 to be honest
Can I make a custom army painted like trans marines?
>>498296663If you're asking if you can apply colors in stripes then no.
>>498296593this but unironically, pvp is where it's at
>>498296307Damn.
>>498292092It can charge up for better stagger and has splash. >>498291130>heavy bolt rifle deals less damage than the bolt rifleNow that doesn't make sense, it's supposed be a LMG to heavy bolter HMG and bolter's assault rifle.
Is my game bugged or does most of the Phobos armor start at mastercrafted instead of common?
>>498297081Shame. I wanted to see if I got kicked on sight.
9569D, The Apothecarion is open for roofless gaming.
>>498291130do we have enemy HP numbers too, for each Difficulty
>>498297361Most people don't care, at least anymore. It's weak bait.
>>498297361By Anons? I don't even know what the LGBTQHTML colors are, I'd just assume you ate one too many crayons.
>>498299303No by people in quick play
>>498298779I don't know the other difficulties but for ruthless it's >Majoris370HP >Minoris40HP unconfirmed for Terminus and Extremis, sadly.It is also worth noting that Extremis and Terminus enemies have their own armor modifier, so we can't really use these numbers >>498291130to guesstimate based on shots to kill. To test you'd need to load into a mission, get to a Extremis and/or Terminus without damaging anything else, shooting it once, then leave the mission which is how those numbers were acquired for Majoris.
>>498298397full
>>4982910603/3
>>498299434Paint yourself in random colours and angry Lorebabies will kick you for ruining their immersion.The hardest part however is actually finding a random selection of colours that isn't already used by a canon Chapter.
>>498300139Great idea! I was also thinking about painting myself as alpha legion or something.
>>498263031Vanguard is a n-word, can't play it as a huwite man
>>498297361Dress up as popular chapters, but then do something stupid like adding an ultramarine logo to your shoulders and knees.
>>498301257its okay, I am transblack
>>498296661same but they've already said sm3 will be a thing
>>498289753lema taking wolf dick soon
>>498301885
Have you heard about our lords and saviours, the chaos gods?They are totally legit and deserving of your worship.
>>498302665I find it highly ironic that a Word Bearer who became disillusioned after Calth and deserted to the Imperium went on to be the one to establish the Imperial Creed and later became a living saint of such power that he can banish daemons by simply telling them to go away.
Patch this week
>>498302665Fuck off, I reject the chaos gods just as I reject the corpse emperor.Embrace the honourable and ancient legion traditions of skinning babies
>>498302995we stand in midnight clad, brother.
>>498303251Indeed we are, brother
>>4983000742/3 againZS5SI
>>498303527Console buddy fix your mortal wound!!!
ded game
>>498265127Devs said gunstrikes have no I-frames because "gunstrikes are powerful and there needs to be balance against it"
>>498306968Not what he means I assume.It's that you often dodge, game registers it as a "perfect" dodge, so one that gives you a gunstrike, yet the Carnifex hurtbox is so fucked you still take damage.
I personally think focusing on pvp would be better their PvE missions are too big to keep pumping them out. People are already dropping the games old school right down to the we just stop caring about it after 2 months.Its why focusing on pvp is better thats what kinda carried SM1 for a long ass time
>>498306968>proceeds to give you immortality on minoris parriesYes I'm still seething about it and I will continue to seethe about it until they reverse the change which they never will.
>>498306968I am beginning to think that the devs are actually kind of retarded.
>>498307607I'm not even asking for a "focus" on PvP I just want them to finish it. Put out, like, two more maps, finish implementing marine customization for Chaos, implement basic multiplayer tools like map/game mode vote and team shuffle. Right now it's woefully unfinished and light on content, although I guess the content part is true for both PvP and co-op.
>>498307236Can't say I've ever had that happen to me. I dodge diagonally into the Carnifex's attacks and it works consistently. I just hate having to dodge the thing when it's not targeting me because most people just panic and have the guy rampage around the entire area.
>>498307236Imo the problem is he dodges to the side instead of under the carni, he isnt hit by the main attack but the aoe damage from his charge. You occasionaly get damaged by it even when youre not the target and he just passes you on the way
>>498308940>>498309724You're supposed to dodge *into him*?Wouldn't that be even worse?
>>498310307Yes. And immediately turn around to dodge again because hell rush you 3-4 times.
>>498291130Is the instigator damage for all 3 rounds in a burst or a single shot?
>gunstrike iframes would be OP!>but you know what’s not op? Bulwark getting 3 separate perks for aoe parries>what we’re going to be upset about though is if you don’t use those block weapons. our intern worked very hard on this system
Ngl I actually frown when I'm playing co-op online and someone is using Tr*itor Legion colours.Admittedly it is also funny when we catch the dropship home and my Blood Angel is sitting next to a World Eater or something LMAO.
Thanks for the games, Brothers.
>>498311119Nice of you to bring the Mc Donald's employee along.
>>498311370>THE GOLDEN ARCHES OF TERRA STAND ETERNAL BROTHERS
>>498311370WHAT DID YOU SAY ABOUT MY PRIMARCHS COLORS???
I have leveled the Stalker and Instigator back to back over the past 2 days.The Instigator is the CLEAR superior choice. The Stalker is just way too slow on the damage and it might just be my memory but I think the reload is even slower. It does more damage, in a shorter time. They have REALLY got to do a balance pass on these bolter weapons.And to that autist that is always talking about how the Stalker is like S tier, go try the Instigator.Its a little werid having to use it on Vanguard though, I find myself just hanging out in the back picking guys off and backing my team and go the whole fight without ever using my grappel or meleeing a major.
>>498312298A modification of the famed Salamander style
>>498310849mine is pruble but i seriously doubt its a single shot
>>498310849>>498312635This is me >>498312363It would not surprise me if it is every shot (and that the stalker just has a better headshot multiplier)
>>498311119Thanks doc.
>>498312363>>498313059Instigator feels pretty good to use, especially compared to the shit ass occulus.
>>498313317Yeah, I've been going through and leveling all the weapons but I've been putting off the ones I hear really suck for last in the hopes that they will buff them before I get there.I'm pretty much out of even halfway decent weapons
>>498312363Try the Instigator on the Tactician. (Mod to have every weapon on arsenal.) It's absolutely awesome and fun.
>>498279756I am convinced the only reason Carbine exists and has two versions (and sucks) is so it lures all oldfags gravitating towards a Bolter without a fidget spinner (and convinces them Firstborn suck).Emperor knows I was one, levelled up my Tactical with a Carbine first because it looked least shit.
>>498313714I imagine it would be. Max auspexing a boss and just drilling an Instigator mag into his head has got to absolutely delete shit.
>>498313486what do u have left
>>498314737Heavy Bolter (what I am probably doing next), Fist, Carbine, Auto Bolter, Occulus>>498314238I think it was made as a pvp weapon and no one ever balanced/tested it for pve
>>498281545Their fucker primarch became almost accidentally a pawn of tzeentch despite him being so far up his ass about his understanding of the warp. That bargain with the demon to open the way to the emperor was full retard. Literally any other of his brothers would have seen that bargain as the trap it was. Except lorgar. Fuck lorgar too
>>498314941my advive on heavy bolter, dont worry about the relic perks, the artificer perks that give you spread and dmg in stance are way betteryou should be using stance 90% of the time
Would the Emperor have been better off not making the Primarch and/or Space Marines?
>>498281545I don't know I played through a campaign of teal coloured psychos and their weird bird creatures trying to murder me and my friends and I got the distinct impression that they were indeed bad people who did a lot of things wrong.
>>498314941Auto Bolter and Occulus are awful, I got them to purple and have quit, I will just hope for a buff patch to them because using them is so painful
>>498315472He could never have built the Imperium without them.Dark Angels fought the first SM battle in Imperial history when they crushed the insurrection attempt on Holy Terra.
>>498281545I just like people calling them "cubic marines"
>>498306968What>>498307236said, I was dodging it (and I was definitely not in any VISIBLE hitbox) and I still kept taking damage from the swings. It might have just been latency but my ping was sub 50 so that seems unlikely too. I know there's no iframes during gunstrikes themselves.
>>498314941heavy bolter is pretty good, fist is the worst melee but not a nightbare, the other stuff is torment
>>498316230The carbine, when you go for the DMR version of it, isn't too bad, it's better than heavy/auto/occulus bolt rifles. If you go for the SMG version yeah it sucks major ass
>>498315684>Auto Bolter and Occulus are awfulSo I have heard. Given how bad the Heavy Bolt Rifle and Stalker/Bolt Sniper were, I can only imagine>>498316230>heavy bolterYeah, I just wanted to do the other 2 heavy weapons first so it was got left for last>fistI just don't really like the Bulwark and I really like the Hammer on Assault so it got left for last.>>498317117I've heard this but it rings of the same cope I heard about the Stalker and Bolt Sniper. We will see.
>Respawn at half healthWhat crackhead came up with that one?
>>498315472considering how primarchs and marines are the worst part of the setting, yes, we would have been better
>>498317247The heavy bolter starts out feeling like pissing in the wind, it gets decent the more you level it up, its important perks are all in purple tier
>>498317519>marines are the worst part of the settingEveryone pretends at some point like they don't like space marines, to be hipster contrarian, but it's fake. You don't have to pretend to not like them, just be free.
>>498317519Then it’d just be fantasy battletech
>tfw have to play with horrendous Tacs and VanguardsHOW ARE YOU DYING AS A 25 MELTA VANGUARD
>>498317519Worst part is a stretch.They're not my favorite but not the worst.I think that's where most people stand.
>>498318464Space Marines are by an order of magnitude most people's favorite thing about the setting, what are you talking aboutunless your population sample is literally just special snowflake redditors>ackshually I am more interested in the nuance and sophisticated worldbuilding of the, ahem hem, administratum
>>498314941>Heavy Bolter (what I am probably doing next), Fist, Carbine, Auto Bolter, OcculusHeavy bolter is alrightFist blowsCarbine sucksAuto Bolter is bad but can at least one shot headshot gaunts once it's green, don't waste ammo on anything elseOcculus, lol, lmao
>mid-swing>red circle appearsShit, the red circle always catches me off-guard
>>498318897Most people's favorite isn't space marines, but they like them too.Plastic sales aren't indicative by the way, before you mention. There's more factors there than preference
A request was made and so it is with great pride (kek) that I present:ITS MA'AM
>>498319684who
>>498317550I just did a moderate with a the starter gray and it was actually not that bad. I pulled out my pistol a couple of times just to try and conserve ammo on some ranged little guys but otherwise I just stood my ground, popped halo, and slugged it out with majors to decent effect. I can only imagine that it gets better. (Felt a little weak on the Helldrake)
>>498319684I don't get it
>>498319983>>498320141https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RJHctyXPmkg
>>498320295i don't get it
>>498320295It doesn't look like it but alright
>>498320452>>498320512Its the fucking trans pride flags you idiots. I'm not even him and I got it by this >>498320295
>>498321146we know you dumbass, we're just sick and tired of huehueh he got them trannies with his epic paint job :DDDD
>>498321146I figured it out contextually after a second but if I saw that in-game I'd just assume you're 10 and trying to be Buzz Astral or whatever.
>>498320452I admit that its not the best but I kinda feel like you are being obtuse.>>498320512The armor painter has some limitations that really tied my hands here. I need like a horizontal split for the torso and a better pink color.>>498321273It wasn't made to "get" anyone. Someone was just wondering if you could make a character look like the trans flag and I decided to try. In the process I decided to make it a reference to a prety well-known meme from a few years ago. Not everything is so serious, lighten up.>>498321607Fair enough. Best I could manage, maybe someone else has a better idea.
Do you guys like epic maymaysDo any of you bacon narwal
>>498321970We got Lions and TigersOnly in Nigeria
>>498281426Signature middle overheat perk is actually really disgusting when the stars align on a specifically built boltor and is absolutely the best perk on that tier (for bolter) until you hit max level and gain access to the cooldown one. It's just that you either need to put in a lot of effort for it or coordination to actually leverage the oppressive DPS it unlocks. So if you're running the Bolter from 1-24 you should use that perk until you hit 25 and then switch off it.First column bottom row perk is also a good pick for bolter if you're packing the plasma pistol because it has dogshit ammo economy and if you get unlucky ammo seed spawns there's a very real chance of running dry on it and if that happens with that perk you toss a frag and then drop 2-3 charged shots and it'll refill your heavy bolter ammo. You don't have the ammo needed to shoot guarded units with the other perk anyway.
>>498322613>when the stars align on a specifically built boltorI'd probably win the lottery before stars align in a way I can actually make use of this.
>>498320295Ok, I giggled. Good job.
>>498321764Brother, do you need a Chaplain?
My predictions for more cosmetics;Dark Angels, Blood Angels and Space Wolves will get full DLCsScars, Salamanders and Raven Guard will get minor cosmetics tacked onto thoseIron Hands will get nothing
>>498324069Imperial Fists will get a full DLC.Actual Imperial Fists cosmetics will be tacked onto the true content of said DLC, which is Black Templars.
>>498322905Correct, but it's still better than micro damage on bubble for the bolter since it's not enough to practically kill anything close up and the last thing you want is units close to you with the heavy bolter. On the flip side lets say you're doing the big final push of a mission and one teammate goes down and dies because they have no relic and were already incapped (which isn't too uncommon). Now if your other squad mate gets grabbed by any grappling unit or goes down there's basically nothing that can kill you so long as you have ammo because you will regain contested health at an absurd rate and you simply don't stop because you can't overheat and can't be staggered out of heavy stance. However you then hit level 25 and have to decide if a very lethal but extremely niche last stand perk is worth giving up over a perk that functions the entire mission and mitigates the chance your team will be put in such a position in the first place. The answer is pretty easy.
>>498324069It'll be Dark Angels, Blood Angels and Imperial Fists for full DLC.It'll be Space Wolves, Salamanders and Raven Guard for minor cosmetics.Iron Hands AND White Scars will get NOTHING.
>>498324583Dataminers already found white scars cosmetics
>>498324583>>498324212>Imperial Fist coping has begunI Fists are genuinely less popular than their successors lol. Nowhere near close the big boys.
>>498268419>spamming parrySorry, I'll let them hit me next time.
>>498324994He literally said the IF DLC will just be Black Templar DLC.
>>498268419If that qaulifies as "spamming melta" then I see why all of you have such a meltdown anytime someone uses it. Bro fired it 9 times (a mag's worth) in a nearly minute long fight.
Which heavy bolter should I be using? Accuracy, Venting, or Ammo?
power first is garbagediscuss
>>498260768im hoping they dont just make teh enemies bigger sponges and just make the number cap higher and waves more common and deal more damage and revert the 1 hit armor from minoris and stims healing contested hp changeit will be really fucking stupid if they do the same bullshit
>>498326167inexplicably it feels better on bulwark than assault. still worse than the other options available to either class.
>>498326167PvE it's the weakest melee weapon. Arguably worse than Heavy's stomp.PvP it's a meme weapon but definitely not garbage.
>>498268419you faggots literally cry over anything huh
>>498281939it's really not, most people are totally shit i just walk around mincing everyone most times
>>498326298now that you mention itI do unironically prefer heavies stompwild
>>498264467Does it? I never noticed.
>>498326298heavy's stomp is honestly on par with sword if you are defending a fixed position
>>498326167>garbagerun it back little nigger, you got within melee range
>>498326662isnt it obvious they were referring to pve
>>498326563pair it with the aoe damage from plasma pistol gun stirkes on minoris and it might even be better
>>498268419seethe
>>498327118god this game is so fucking hard
>>498327241yeah its tough to use your eyes which is why i just parry every sound effect and eat all orange attacks
>>498268419It's fun
>>498326757>isnt it obvious they were referring to pve>PvP it's a meme weaponShut up>>498326298Show us your Relic Power Fist, because you're either using it wrong or haven't leveled it up if you believe either of those stupid ass statements.
>>498327546did nobody tell you that contrarian isn't a personality replacement?
>>498326010I prefer accuracy, it ends up doing more damage because you hit more often at medium range
>>498325042>>498325658>>498326351>>498327118>>498327520Original Post: This class is so goodEvidence Provided: Using an overpowered weapon that two other classes have and parrying, which every class can doI don't give a fuck if you like it or whatever, but saying Vanguard is "good" and posting a webm where he doesn't even hit grapple is just fucking trolling
>>498327118>actually takes damageLol.Also I suggest rebinding aiming to right mouse button and making it hold, not toggle, so you can take advantage of, in this case, incerased melta ADS fire rate, while also being able to still parry everything.It's my secret sauce and this one change made the game ten times as pleasant to play.
>>498327706Who asked lil man.
>>498327546>worse than thunder hammer, chainsword, and power sword>"it's not the worst!"i mean it's better than heavy's bonk but heavy can't use melee at all.
>>498327706>I don't give a fuckSame. I don't give a fuck about the class or whatever little tiff you were having over it, I directly addressed a comment made about the weapon. Learn to practice the very thing you are preaching about; context.
>>498326662Is this Space Marine 1
>>498326010>>498327675I second this. People have said Venting is BiS but even with all the accuracy perks I still take accuracy Heavy Bolter because it's so much more important to shoot heads than shoot for longer. When overheated just fire a shot or two from your Plasma Pistol and your Bolter will be ready to fire back again.
titus should suplex a hierophant
>>498327883You think I read through this whole ass thread trying to find your argument? Next time make it clear from the get go instead of posting some stupid shit.>>498327768You, apparently, since you can't fucking read you dumb fag.
How do you do the second stiomp with chainsword? I have the perk but have never been able to get it to work.
>>498327709the health trade was deliberate, vanguard can just heal it back no problem anyway
>>498328085still who asked
>>498328105you can't use the slow relic chainsword, it straight up will never work. other than that you just queue the stomp, release the melee button, then hold it down again
>>498328141i asked
>>498327784>>498327653>Highest single target DPS in PvE>Literal one shot kill with a 1 second charge time in PvP, that tracksI see all the people who don't actually play the game are coming out of the woodwork. Again.
>>498328085>You think I readYeah, that was my bad. I should have known it was too much effort for you to read the post you replied too. Apologies
>>498328124>the health trade was deliberateNigga you got grabbed after achieving literally fucking nothing. There was no trade, you just made a bad call. It's not the end of the world, you can admit to fucking up.Still, ADS your fucking meltagun.
Bring anything
>>498328324the two gun strikes were trades ya dingus
>>498328173>release the melee button, then hold it down againI do this and he just does the heavy swing punch
>>498328242did nobody tell you that contrarian isn't a personality replacement?
>>498328459a. stop using the slow chainswordb. the training room uses PvP rules so you get no benefits from PvE perks, you have to take it on an operation
>>498328425the first one is me coping
>>498328529>a. stop using the slow chainswordI'm not>b. the training room uses PvP rules so you get no benefits from PvE perks, you have to take it on an operationOh...Fuck this is stupid.
>>498328401>>498328401>>4983284012/3
>>498328467Epic!
>>498328105You have to start charging the second stomp before the first one lands.Also like >>498328173 said, it's bugged on the balanced relic.
>people who used a weapon twice and haven't leveled it up trying to dictate the metaIt's like every other day with you shitters.
Is the campaign supposed to be that short?
>>498328676JOINOIN
>>498329765yeah>>498329028yeah dude, of all the people on the internet you're the only one who cracked the code, that's definitely what it is
>>498329765it wasnt before they nerfed everything
>>498326662What if he was playing assault and doesn't get a free god mode button?
>>498329765Wait until you learn there are two PvP maps and PvE missions are maybe half the length of the campaign.
>>498329880If the code is that inexperienced players shouldn't make blanket statements, this yes.
its obvious who actually joins codes posted and who doesnt
>>498330109Glad I didn't pay any money for it
>>498326662I don't even have a horse in this race but why is this the only clip you have of this? Why do I constantly see it reposted? If the weapon is so dominant why do you not have any other clips?t. literally never even used the fist in either mode and only played 2 (losing matches) of pvp
If someone wants to drag my green heavy bolter ass through ruthless I will post a code, otherwise I will run subs with randos.
>>498331736I'd offer anon but I'm also finishing up the heavy plasma.
>>498331736I'm down.
>>498332129UBZSC
Why the fuck do the enemy teams krak grenades stick to and literally home in on people yet mine can't?
>>498331847No worries bro, godspeed, I enjoyed that one.
>Can easily do Ruthless solo>Doing Ruthless with randos is a strugglePls give codes brothers!
>>498332486Are you blind? Its 2/3, better hurry
>>498332486I've seen several tac or vanguard 25ers now who are absolutely horrendous at rooflessI seriously question how, when I run with my gimped bolt sniper with lvl 10s with no problems. its insane
fencing melee weapons > blocking melee weapons
>>498332628blocking hammer > fencing melee weapons > blocking melee weapons
>>498332628Balanced and block need to be reworked completely, blocking just leads to you getting destroyed because every enemy will slap the shit out of you while you’re locked into the animation
>>498332486bots take less damage than players who cant parry
>>498332628You dont say
>>498332837they also regularly get free heals to full at checkpointsto an extent, playing with bots is cheating
>>498332797Not even blocking hammer is as good as a parry/counter from a fencing melee.Just countering from a fencing melee damages all enemies around you and you basically have i-frames when you're countering.
>>498333447you literally do have invincibility when parrying
>>498324069>Iron Hands will get nothingas it should be
>>498328401ggS
How do I make the thunder hammer heavy attack track targets in pvp? Do I have to let go of the movement keys?
>>498333447blocking is utter trash, dont get baited
>>498324069Dude if literally who-ite scars and space furfags get DLC but not Black Templars and Blood Ravens, I will fucking riot.
>the last area of Inferno with the horde defense can spawn a Carni/NeuroFuck that shit.
>>498281545>expecting anything better from Corpse-worshipersyou stupid bitch
>>498334513what's wrong? easier area to fight in than the area just before
>>498334513whatchu mean? the area with the elevator?at least you got space there
>>498334831No, the very last area when you're defending against the horde before you can blow up the promethium>>498334749It's no issue but I got caught offguard.
>>498324069This game wouldn't last long for those factions to get aesthetics.They will only do what they've shown on the roadmap and then they'll drop this game and move to SM3's development (since they actually made shekels from this one).Then SM3 will be half-baked and we're back to Chaos again because Gays Workslop demands it.
>>498317514So the heavys perk that makes it so squadmates come back with full health has a purposeShould have been a bulwark perkOr saved for apothecary or whatever
>>498336216That's actually a teamperk, so if you have it and someone revives you you still get full health
>>498334395First foundings first then successors is a perfectly fair way to do it. Iron hands, Raven guard, and Salamanders don’t get much love from GW so it’s nice to see them getting at least a few crumbs.
>>498334395No one cares about Blood Ravens outside of boomers.Whether you play PvE or PvP there are a shitton of Black Templars.
New mission idea: We go inside a tyranid hive and just kill shitEvery 3 minutes the characters involved create a new racial slurs to depict the nidsMission end when nidders blood reach knee level
>>498337421basedTotal Nidder Death
Just played a Roofless Fall of Atreus where literally every single incoming wave had an Extremis. Not even exaggerating. We had over 15 Extremis kills by the end of it.Also had two waves where he had a Helbrute + Terminator, and the other was 2 Terminators at once.Idk if they accidentally queued us into Lethal or what but damn son.
Is anyone still having the visual bug where knee decals get fucked up?
>>498338045i would honestly rather fight 2 terminators than 10 rubrics but i would rather fight 4 sorcerers
>>498338045I’ve had some crazy extremis spawns recently as well, typically on ruthless if get 2 of them, maybe 3. But recently i’ve been getting three spawn in one area back to back, it’s fucking awesome. I hope the new difficultly just spams massive enemy waves all the time
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>>498331546,
Titus in SM1 was a beast with the chainsword. He swings it faster than any knife in SM2. The heavy attacks don't need to be charged and have massive AOE. They instantly stun orks in a wide radius. It also sounds meaty as fuck. What a game. So glad I replayed it.
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>>498338329>>498338634>>498338859The nasty thing about the powerfist is that the charge up animation for your powerfist is barely distinguishable from your normal shield up stance when viewed from the opponent's POVThat's why so many people walk into it as if they were completely oblivious
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>>498338634what was the thought process of that night lord>nameah, i see, no thought process at all
>>498339279To be fair literally nobody is running PFist in PvP so nobody knows how absurd it is
>>498339279>what was the thought process of that night lord>SUKA BLY-ACK
>call it pommel smash>you use the opposite side of the weapon to the pommelwhat did the devs mean by this
>>498338859>>498339029Now do it on assault
>>498340927but assault doesnt have a shieldi think you could do it if they are lined up when you land a ground pound on them though
LORD HAVE YOU CONSIDERED EXTERMINATUSDEEZ IZ YE TOOMB WORLD BUT I AM CONSIDERIN EET
>>498341106I know. I'm bitching about assault being bad
>>498341110he said burial world and talked about honored dead, not necrons
>>498340927from what little i did it felt like shit because you have no armor and the slam is worseslam being the bread and butter attack, it's a dealbreaker to mebulwark is way more consistent and has actual utility outside of melee combat
>>498341253but assault isnt bad (if people dont look up and dont know what spacing is)
No codes?
>>498341737ill post one in an hr or so
so from what I gathera space marine chapter is only allowed to have 1000 troopsgrowing a space marine involves taking a child and letting him grow up to be a mutated adultthen seeing dozens of space marines dying like in this game would be catastrophic, no? something you can only replace literal decades laterthat's not to mention dudes like Varellus who was a veteran sargeantand this is supposed to be happening all over the galaxy all the time.people also said space marines are WAY weaker than they are portrayed in this game, like one marine won't be shitting on dozens of tyranid warriors or chaos marines like it's nothinghow is this meant to be sustainable? do they just have hundreds of these guys in reserve at all times? what about chaos? how do they replenish their marine troops all the time?
>>498341253Assault is not bad.
>>498341953Nah. Battles as bad as in SM2 are decades apart. Also the recent influx of primaris marines that have been in stasis since 30k has covered for a lot of loses.
>>498341953>how is this meant to be sustainable?Because chapters have homeworlds with massive populations willing to die at just a CHANCE to become an Astartes.Don't need to worry about having hundreds of guys in reserve when you have basically infinite aspirants and a good stockpile of geneseed>what about chaos? how do they replenish their marine troops all the time?Since Chaos geneseed is severely degraded, they conduct raids. Once they acquire geneseed from said raids, they typically get a useful/competent/excellent slave and geneseed them right up, hoping the slave survives the process to become a chaos astartes.The Night Lords are known to recruit new astartes from promising slaves in the bowels of their ships.
>>498341953Those 1000 troops only count Battle BrothersThey don't count auxiliary forces like Techmarines (who also drive and pilot vehicles), Chaplains, Chapter Command, ApothecariesDreadnoughts can or may be counted out When Girlyman approved the Primaris delivery the Chapters ballooned to a few thousand to replace losses
>>498341953There are always new aspirants being recruited, furthermore Space Marines are WAY stronger than they are portrayed in this game. One Marine WILL be shitting on dozens of tyranids like it's nothing (not necessarily the case against Chaos Marines obviously).
>>498341953chapters usually have at least one entire world reserved for their recruitment, there will often be a lot of downtime between major campaigns or battles, and it does often take years, decades or even centuries for space marine chapters to recover after significant lossesin the span of ten thousand years, a century or two isn't a long timelosing the two or three entire companies is considered pretty significant, losing half the chapter is catastrophic, losing under a company isn't that bad
>Start up Space Marine 2 co-op>Start playing the Battlesector OST in the background>Start playing with my Blood Angel charactersYeah it's GOTY
>>498341953Codex Astartes does not count Scouts, Neophytes and Aspirants which could number into a few hundred or a thousand.When Tyroneids attacked Baal the more experienced Scouts and Neophytes were turned into regular Primaris Muhreens while the battle was ongoing.The transformation allowed Baal to survive a week longer for Girlyman and fresh Primaris Blood Angel troops to arrive.
>>498341953What all the other anons said, but also the fact that if your chapter gets too fucked up then it's just going to take some time for you to recover, and that means the Imperial Guard and PDF forces in the region are going to need to work harder for the next few decades. And if you get REALLY fucked up then they might evict your whole chapter and replace you with a fresh one, focing you to give the new boys all your stuff.
>>498342513Did the Raven Guard ever truly recover from Istvaan V?I think the Salamanders and Iron Hands did, but I'm not certain about Raven Guard.
>>498338329>>498338634>>498338859>>498339029Good on you, thanks for replying
>>498341953the time scale is large enough that this isnt an issue
>>498342723Wasn't corax given the means to recover his legion but the alpha legion fucked his shit up so he got depressed and became birb
>>498342992I think so yes (I'm not a loreGOD). I'm still uncertain as to whether or not the Raven Guard ever bounced back from that (before Gilly's Primaris rolled up anyway).
>>498342723raven guard have a special case of incredibly fucked up geneseed that makes the creation of raven guard space marines extremely difficult
>>498341953>people also said space marines are WAY weaker than they are portrayed in this game, like one marine won't be shitting on dozens of tyranid warriors or chaos marines like it's nothingthere is a disconnect between the tabletob and fiction. space marines units are relatively "elite" in comparison to other standard units, but in written lore they are fucking demigods. it obviously depends on the author and on the character wearing a helmet or not, but generally this is true. not that killing a billion gaunts isn´t silly. and 3 marines vs 1 carnifex or any other boss in this game is also pretty silly.depends on the chapter. there are a lot of chapters that are constantly near extinction. the marines errant for exmaple got their geneseed pissed on by red korsairs and some night lords & will probably never recover, despite being one of those chapters that was usually over strength. thats also a thing, some chapters are just not codex compliant and will be over strength in general.whats more catastrophic is stuff like the red scorpions saying no to any stealth because thats for faggots, dropping in with 80-ish shocktroops into a eldar force, killing their leader, returning with 16, blasting time & recources on gathering the geneseed of the 60+ dead battle brothers and then claming total victory. but its funny.but the imperium is one thing, chaos is even more retarded in that regard. legions like iron warriors still have ways to recruit or breed new marines, so it makes sense that they are operating on a military scale. but when you read stuff about the world eaters staring as early as 30k you constantly have to ask yourself how its possible that any of those retards are still alive 10k years later. all they do is kill & die, and its not like anyone is joining them.
>>498342723Their geneseed is fucked biglyTheir purest geneseed was stolen by the Alpha Legion and was never recoveredTheir selection process is even more retarded compared to everyone else (aspirants need to evade a Raven Guard marine "hunting" them, getting caught means you're out)
>>498341953>like one marine won't be shitting on dozens of tyranid warriors or chaos marines like it's nothingTabletop no, lore it depends on whose perspective the lore is written from.
>>498342723I mean they have a few successors, so yes. But the shattered legions played little part in the war post Istvaan.
Help, my battle brother has fallen onto the train tracks and can't get up. The Codex Astartes offers no guidance on this scenario.
>>498343336the codex asstardies condones this maneuver.
>>498343336only option is to die and respawn
>>498343336Tell me you tried to run him over with one of the trains
>>498343336I've seen this happen to InfernoSame class but he's also carrying a gene sneedHe had no choice but to quit
>>498343130>there are a lot of chapters that are constantly near extinctionI got that impression about the Flesh Tearers reading their stories while I was on holiday.
>>498342203CSM numbers are also obviously not constrained by Guilliman's book and due to warp time fuckery you might still encounter a Chaos Marine to whom Siege Of Terra was like a week ago.
*ahem*FUCK TACTISISSIESFUCK ASSAULTARDSFUCK VANGUARETARDSFUCK SNIPEPUSSIESFUCK HEAVYFAGSSincerely, BulwarkGOD.
>>498288149The marksman version is okay, the automatic is suffering
>>498343470>BulwarkGODOh yeah? What Chapter?
>>498343393>>498343397>>498343406>>498343420Sadly, brother Retardus perished on the tracks fighting a Zoanthrope. His sacrifice will be remembered.
>>498343628the expanded ammo relic version is passable and the marksman versions are really solid but struggle for ammo.
>>498288945>faster recharge less cool down>bad>100% faster ult for the team when it’s up>not the go to pickAtrocious
>>498343406The trains (or rather, the area around the train) deal AoE damage. Its pretty low, just so it can kill the low HP horde Gaunts (before they climb up to playable space Gaunts are fake and very low hp). It can drive over you and you'll lose maybe 1/4th of your HP.
>>498343670>buh..buh..whu chapder!!Dark Angels now kek yourself snipernigger.Bulwark players are gods regardless of chapter.
>>498315443idk what the fuck they were thinking with the melee damage perks for heavy
>>498344156>Dark AngelsB-B-B-BASEDThis serf KNEELS to the BulwarkGOD
>>498343964It’s worse than the regular bolt pistol, if you could use a heavy bolt pistol with it it might work as your trash clear and the pistol for majoris. But you’re just using two bolt pistols as things stand
>>498344307stomp spam is funhave you tried a stomp only run? i havent, fuck that
>>498344454Stomp is great but not because of the damage, it just has great knock back.
>>498284860So is this confirmed to work or not? I hate vague wording in games so much.>shield bash does more damageHow much more, and how much does bash even do? >dodge window is 50% longerOk but how long is it by default?>Charged damage is increasedOk but what is considered charge attacks?To my understanding, heavy attacks are considered charge attacks. For example, thunderhammer has a perk that reduces ranged attack damage during a 'charged' attack, but it visibly appears during ground slam.
>>498291130How is any of this obtained? No perks? What about class bonuses? Distance?There is an actual weapon damage table btw, fished from the games file. We can use that to elaborate on enemy's inherent damage multiplier to incoming damage
>>498292092It also has no headshot bonus, which means you dont have to be accurate with it.
>>498306968They said 'gunstrikes are easily spammable' which is absolutely correct. Just try using a knife.
>>498336216As anon said, it is a teamperk so it actually has insane value if you know for a fact that youre carrying noobs. Being revived at full health means that as long as youre scrounging for medicae (and actually finding them), you can essentially never have a mortal wound. You can even tactically kys when you have a medicae to get way more health back than you would using it normally. It still doesnt change the fact that its a misplaced perk though.
>>498346694I don't think this is questionable at all. Every melee weapon has at least one move that is just infinite gunstrike generator. Before free armor on parry constantly gunstriking minoris was the only way to keep alive (unless you were abusing the heal bugs).
>>498346946"misplaced perk"Why? Bulwark already has it's own heals, Heavy is the only other class with similar support features. It makes perfect sense.I know people want Apothecary to happen but I honestly think it's not happening, not anytime soon. There was that Dev forum but they haven't shown any signs of activity on it ever since before release so I'm assuming it was a publicity stunt and wouldn't take what's written there as real proof. Either way all they said is they liked the idea, not that they'll implement it.
>>498343406You can move the trains?>>498344092The gaunts are fake?
>>498347476Yes you dumb anime girl
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>>498348118expired EXPIRED EXPIREDDDDDDDD
>>498348563It just means it's fullJust post your own code
>>498347476>You can move the trains?Uh, yeah? One of the walkways has two buttons on it, you're supposed to press the one on the side gaunts are piling up against the charging train to get rid of them.You can kill them manually, but I thought most people only know about the intended train method, not about doing it without the trains.>The gaunts are fake?The gaunts you see running in unreachable spaces during those defense segments are "fake", yes. They have much lower HP and most of their AI is gone, you can easily see this shooting them with weak weapons because every hit will always be a kill. They pile up at the walls and basically spawn real versions of themselves hidden by the mass of bodies. It's very obvious because shooting the mass at the bottom is always killing them but the ones slightly up on the wall have higher HP and need multiple shoots unless it's a headshot.It's actually interesting the ones in the webm are real, I assume they either dropped down or there's some other system to change them into real ones, idk I haven't tested being down in those areas extensively yet.
>>498348339>>498348563why don't they add a quick join button on the main menu?the initial logo start up thanks to eac is already stupidly slow
>>498332806Block needs parry, at least for minoris, but it actually has a perfect block window. This is how i think it works, if the trend is to be believed.Balanced: startup (10 frames?) -> parry (10 frame) - > recovery (10f?)Fencing: parry (20 f) - > recovery (10f)Balanced: startup (10f) - > block (10f) - > recovery (10f)The frame data is extrapolated from devs blog, last balance patch. The fencing frames are per the words of the devs (they nerfed it so that parry has 10 fewer frames during the recovery). Parry has no startup whatsoever from experience.Balanced and block both have an animation for when youve been attacked during the startups, where you will block the attack but will recoil backward and sometimes take damage. This locks you into an animation for like 20 frames. When you 'parry' using a block weapon, you will notice that if you time it as if its a balanced weapon, you will get this 'block' animation that is very short. Thats the 'perfect block' animation.
5TH7EJoin or I play with randoms
>>498349483In any case, nobody in the universe using the block weapons.
>>4983495132/3
>>498347471Because its contending with two arguable even stronger team perks that always have value, regardless of the skill of the team. Reduced incoming ranged damage and 25% more ammo for the team plays perfectly into the role of what a heavy is supposed to do. You can either be a shield for the team (iron halo) or provide more ammo. It really doesnt make sense thematically for the heavy to have the role of an apothecary.In the case of bulwark, it doesnt severely detracts from what he does, because its not exactly just team revive, but also a way to keep himself in the fight for a longer period. Its just an augment to his banner ability, whereas the heavy team perk introduces a whole new interaction for the team that, as powerful as it is, just doesnt make sense for him to have.On a tangent, his perks that rely on teammates being downed or dead are just a waste of space. Relying on your team being bad or having a rough game is just not at all good, especially since the other contending perks are just way more consistent. The perk balancing needs to be reworked.
>>498349695I do, but it heavily depends on the weapon class. For example the knife has a very good variant that has big dick damage and speed, which means you can reliably avoid damage by dodge canceling. The thunderhammer is also ok. Everything else just avoid like theyre the plague.Baffles me how block weapons actually have draw backs. Losing parry was already too much, and in some cases they even have lower speed or cleave??
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>>498349483These stats tell me that fencing exists only for people who's reflexes are too fast. If you have a delayed reaction to blue attacks you'll parry just fine with a balanced weapon. It figures that I never noticed a difference.
>>498352596What? Most of the time, you parry the instant the blue indicator shows up. Fencing weapons allow you to react later since there's little/no startup.
Not being to dodge out of heavy stance is stupid. Its not even like there is a delay in being able to dodge if you manually toggle out, it just creates unneeded complication for the game to misregister the sequence of commands and your ass to get fucked. It already significantly curtials your peripheral awareness and movement, that is more than enough.
>>498354009See>>498327709I have my melee on Thumb Mouse Button, Aim/Heavy Stance on RMB and also set Aim/Heavy Stance to Hold, not Toggle in the settings.If you need to dodge/block just let go off the RMB and it's instantly gone.You can actually also flicker your Aim/Heavy Stance with every gun to get good accuracy without really slowing down. Pretty good for stuff like Multimelta in PvP (and PvE but it's not like it needs any help) too, since it's firerate is significantlly worse without Heavy stance but if you just press Heavy Stance and fire at the same time you get good firerate and still move around freely.
>>498354662And btw I agree it's kinda stupid that it locks you in such a way and the technique I described sometimes feels so broken that it has to be unintended, for the time being a simple controls tweak will improve how the game feels significantly, and I say this as a person who normally swears by toggle to aim.
>>498354009i used to cry about this but now i got used to it and just find it more engaging
>>498349483The start up frames need be removed and give you a small knock back with no damage dealt if you counter within those frames. Rename block to agile, it has the smallest perfect parry frames but buffs your dodging I frames. As it stands having the start up animation that can force you into a block is fucking awful in this game because it only takes on small enemy to hit you during start up to steal the parry from you that you intended for a majoris.
>>498354857Doesn't feel like an exploit to me. Quickly going in and out of ADS isn't anything new for a shooter. It's just a pointless restriction.
>>498354009It’s a bit odd but I don’t have an issue with it since you leave instantly as soon as you let go of the button
im going to start carrying random retards to the end and then leave before the final battle and assume they lost because i left
>>498356643That wasn't you in the game that just failed was it?I can't tell if one other guy was from here or the lobby had been fully replaced by pubs
>>498356825no
>>498356643That sure will show them
CreamAPI work yet?
Niggers.
Why not press to skip?Why not just remove skip button but once you have seen something one hundred times it autoskipped after that?
>>498359831it is synced between clients
Post yfw Space Marine 3 is Guilliman sending Titus to Imperium Nihilus to investigate rumors of another primarch roaming around.
are ops actually fun? i've played nothing but heavy PvP since beating the campaign.
>>498360830Stick with us (and by us I mean The Wall). having randos try to YOLO is never a good time.
>>498360830They can be, but some classes are gimped. Assault doesn't get the perks that make it usable and fun until you're almost done leveling it, and until then you're more of a worse tactial than anything.
>>498360895The Wall Anon was weak, so he died.
>>498360821Space Marine 3 will have corruption mechanic with the canon ending being Titus truly corrupted by Chaos and Chaplain Leandros smiting him down and becoming a Reclusiarch for the Ultramarines.
>>498361702I think what they are going for is likely the same thing in Gaunt's Ghosts what with the freaking Emperor himself saying a Primarch can be redeemed. Titus is essentially a True Believer and he will wind up like other warp phenomenon and anomalies that are beneficial to the Imperium, always under watch and suspicion at best or exterminated at worst. Something gee dubs has been trying to do is make Chaos and the Imperium of Man appear to be two sides of the same coin. Like Chaos is supposed to be a dark reflection of sorts but they are just where all the genuine trash and garbage amongst humanity's kind winds up instead so it falls flat except for like the RPG book where you can be regular shmoe cultists an a mini-Eye.
>>498361702The secondary plot of SM2 was showing Titus that everyone who actually matters never doubted him for a second and was more pissed than Angron that he got locked up.Hell, we even have a story taking place after Titus' abduction about an inquisitor showing up to take Tigurius into custody on suspicion of corruption and Cato simply tells him he won't survive the attempt and that the Ultramarines will take on the entire Inquisition if they don't learn how to act.Guilliman's return tempered the hostilities, but the official position of the Ultramarines chapter after Titus was taken by Thrax was that the Inquisition is not welcome in Ultramar.I guarantee you that if Calgar knew Leandros was responsible, he would have simply killed him on the spot. No words, no asking him to explain himself, just slamming his fist into the top of Leandros' head so hard that the fucker shits out his own skull.
>>498360830Yeah, but the balancing isnt quite there yet. If suggest trying the easier difficulties first with randos. Once youre comfortable with average try to post code here to have some fun. Imo average to substantial has the bigger learning curve.
>>498355723Imo block should be like fencing where startup is instant or close to instant, but has fewer frames (like maybe 7). Hate to bring souls game in here but that type of parry would be both interesting and challenging to have. Not only would parrying actually require decent timing, it would also be very punishing if you miss. Naturally, the weapon stats need to be drastically improved as well, as a baseline.
patch today or tomorrow, r-right?
>>498363081There is definitely a Inquisition vs Marines conflict brewing in lore.
>>498257592//// INCOMING TRANSMISSION ////>Imperial Administratum has granted access to records of all Astartes operating in Decidious System,CODENAME: ADEPTUS RETARDES >Purge Order executed. All Dudes of low quality have been terminated. A remembrancer has been assigned to make record of those who did their best but were found lacking.>Dude Wall status: ACTIVE. >All Astartes present in Decidious System accounted for.>All First Founder Chapters accounted for.>All Astartes are to upload a FULL SCREENSHOT of their Dude and post their CHAPTER.Hail Brothers! Another day brings us another update to the Dude Wall. While not as substantial as the previous one, it is just as vital.The website has almost been brought up to date. Update will come in the next two days.If you want to see your Dude on the Wall, post him and he will be placed on it. Thank you for all the submissions Brothers!=IMPORTANT=>**Brothers who wish to view their comrades who fell in the Purge will be able to do so once the remembrancer completes his task**>**For more comprehensive info on submissions please refer to: https://rentry.org/dudewallsm2g **Glory to the Imperium!//// END TRANSMISSION ////
>>498363526There's been open conflict several times between the Inquisition and multiple chapters, most notably with the Space Wolves and the Celestial Lions. Every Inquisitor who starts to think the Dark Angels are hiding something soon finds himself promoted to missing person, as well.
>>498363516THE EMPEROR PROVIDES
What if the story of Space Marine 3 involves Titus becoming the new chapter master of the Ultramarines?
>>498364051Very based brother anon>>498364053Space wolves have some of the worst writing in 40k and their battles against the inquisition are absolute fucking cringe
>>498363526>>498364053Dark Angels are a special mention by virtue of the fact that they actually deserve that suspicion.
>>498363526>Inquisition vs Marines conflictThat happens all the time with all factions vs the Inquisition. It's the job of the Inquisition to be a neck breathing reminder that the sword of the emperor hangs over everyone.
>>498363292If you just make all block weapons into balance weapons, you'd be shocked at how well tuned it feels.
>>498364053>>498364776I don't mean it like that. Up until now typically what happened was either Inquisition went after First Founding or otherwise important chapter and were told to fuck off/disappeared (Space Wolves, Dark Angels) or they went after smaller fries and Ork Sniper'd them (Celestial Lions, Soul Drinkers), but all in all those things were mostly inconsequential and often swept under the rug.With Guilliman around to slam the fist down while Inquisition still does the stupid shit they do (they are somehow still mad over Celestial Lions) there is a non-zero chance of a bigger, universal conflict.
>>498364920I pretty much never use fencing because i never needed that much help with parrying. Most of the time i just pick whichever has better overall stats, which happens to be balanced. Block is too weapon dependent though.
>>498365031Hardly. Inquisition only has the power that is given to them. They do not have friends. They do not have loyalty. Like all cops, they only have the power given to them by the system with the trust that they do their job responsibly.
>>498365292The Inquisition is the arm of the Imperial Creed, to say they don't have loyalty is to fail to understand them.
>>498365686You know that scene from Halo 4, where the admiral tells a marine to arrest Master Chief and the marine just stands there for a variety of reasons, ranging from a greater respect for Master Chief than the admiral, to the fundamental knowledge that Master Chief did nothing wrong? That's basically what would happen if the Inquisition tried to employ force against a space marine chapter.
>>498365686Lol.I'm sorry your imaginary big "Inquisition vs Marines" got shot down so fast but if that's your best argument then maybe you should actually try reading up on some lore before trying to sound smart.
>>498365031Dark Angels are used by inquisitors to dispose of other inquisitors. No one sane would try to sneak inside a monastery full of schizophrenics-paranoids superhumans. And even worse for them now, there is Lion.
>>498364184Nah he'll just get his rank back.
>>498366468I thought inquisitors had exorcists now
>>498366108They’ve employed force against chapters a bunch, the inquisition is far more powerful than any chapter. Although if you’re a space wolf book you win by default despite worshiping a chaos god
>>498366108I get where you are coming from but cops as you know them don't exist in the Imperium so it kind of falls flat. Order a marine to arrest them? The Inquisitor in Space Marine is a nice guy by law enforcement standards and he brought an entire complement of Black Templars with him for the sole purpose of fucking Tidus's shit up and everyone around him if he so much as dared to say no. Hell the actual police, who enforce the law non-lethally, are an entire collective of Judge Dredd incarnate and they go in guns blazing first.
>>498366739Well, Exorcists have some friends in the Ordo Malleus and are tolerated by the others because they are getting shit done. Even if they deviate form the Codex Asstartes and they play too much with daemons.
>>498366898>the inquisition is far more powerful than any chapterThat's a retarded take. Any first founding chapter would shit on the Inquisition
>>498367162Do the black templars answer to the inquisition? Or were they just around at the time and had no reason to go against arresting Titus?
>>498366583I think it would be pretty cool if Titus became the new chapter master, though. Lord Calgar is apparently a nothingburger in the lore. He's never done anything significant, and Guilliman returning makes Calgar less relevant.
>>498368483Genuinely a Servitor made post
>>498368354Black Templars are basically conservative fanatics who just don't give a shit about anything else but going on an eternal crusade. Them showing up with an Inquisitor means they take the tip-off from Leandros seriously enough to give their support to Thrax.
>>498368353>that chapter are heretics and have declared war on the inquisition and thus the imperium>navy blows up their planetsAs organisations they aren’t on the same level
>>498369676>Guilliman declares Inquisition heretics in retaliationI wonder who people will listen to, bunch of jannies nobody likes or actual Son of God Emperor?
>>498369853It’s not for him to judge who is and isn’t a heretic, the high lords of terra would side with the inquisition because he chaffs their asses
>>498369997I'm sure Space Marines will listen to High Lords over Their Spiritual Liege.Also how are you explaining that to people, oh yeah btw Emperor's Angels are now all heretics?
>>498369676>that chapter are heretics and have declared war on the inquisition and thus the imperiumIf you do that to a First Founding Chapter, almost every other Chapter is going to back them up, plus the successors. Even if the Inquisition somehow wins, the Imperium as a whole would still be fucked, not counting in that if Lion or Girlyman go against them then it's just a beatdown.
>>498369997The High lords already tried, the spy master just kept a log and then ratted them out.
>>498370115Most would answer to the high lords yeah, they don’t fuck around with that sort of thing anymore after the last time>>498370118Again probably not, but yeah the imperium would be fucked after such a conflict which is why they play nice for the most part and run ins with the inquisition are left to smaller scale things to just make the chapter the book is about look tougher and these are usually trash tier books. It wouldn’t be a somehow in an all out war scenario against the space marines though, the rest of the imperium would fold them because that’s why they’re structured like they are so a second heresy can’t happen.
>>498370365>Again probably notSpace Wolves already fucked them up once>But it was cringeThey still won. Then, let's say Dark Angels, they are basically a full Pre-Heresy chapter because the successors are just them (but greener or white), nevermind the Dark Age shit they have.Blood Angels have their successors + the Dead Legion. Imperial Fists have a fuckton of successors that'll back them up.Ultramarines is just lol, lmao. The Inquisition could only probably beat White Scars, Raven Guard and Iron Hands (I don't know anything about the Iron Hands). And the Raven Guard would bleed them dry with guerilla tactics.
>>498370648I fucked up, Death Company* not Dead Legion. I got one of my teeth pulled and I am loopy.
I just got one shotted by one of those cultist ghosts from full health and dropped the geneseedFrame by frame it looks like the ghost took 1 bar of armor and then I got hit by the lightning strike from a krak grenade (did not have krak grenades equipped) is this the krak grenade bug people here have been mentioning?
>play PVP>stealth sniper>go behind enemy lines>kill 3 before dying myself>surely my team must be winning on the point now>across the 5 of them they were unable to take out a single bulwark>the other two enemies mop the rest of our team up>we never took the pointincredible
>>498370365>Most would answer to the high lords yeah, they don’t fuck around with that sort of thing anymore after the last timeDoubt.> they’re structured like they are so a second heresy can’t happen.You mean the exact structure Guilliman has amended to be less retarded, nevermind shitting out fuckton of successors from Unnumbered Sons zoomer Marines that all would absolutely support Guilliman over High Lords. Sure, Navy got the big guns but all Marines have to do is off the High Lords and they would absolutely have means to break through blockade and drop on the surface.>>498370851Yes. You used a Krak grenade before, you had a shadow copy stuck on you, the skull ghost exploded, triggering the Krak grenade and killing you.
>>498364184They'll never kill off named characters with tabletop models. Cadia literally blew up, but Creed is still alive because Trazyn added him to his collection
None of this would happen, am I the only one who remembers that the Aryan son of god purged the high lords of terra and replaced them with guys explicitly loyal to him? The Inquisition can chimp out all they like, if Guilliman disagrees with their assessment, so too will the High Lords.
>>498370648The space wolves encounter should just be considered non canon because of how pants on head retarded it is. The inquisition isn’t a fighting force, they have the power to muster the full might of the imperium with cause. If they’re in full out war against a chapter that chapter is considered heretical and any chapters that side with them. The chapter structure keeps them isolated enough to be destroyed if need be to cause a little damage to the imperium. Yes space marines don’t give a fuck most of the time when some inquisitor comes poking around and the inquisition begrudgingly looks the other way when they disappear. But in an all out war what if? It doesn’t matter what chapter it is they now have to fight all mustered by the high lords because the people with the power to mark you as a heretic has done so against that chapter and are in all out war with them. If said chapter is in open conflict with the high lords other chapters will be against them because this is who they answer to. It would be a shit show and the imperium would be done for after the fall out if it did spread, but no my space marines would win because they’re really tough is stupid to say when they now have to fight the navy, the guard, the titan legions. The imperium isn’t fucking around with chancing another heresy, if the inquisition as an organisation has cause to destroy a chapter that chapter is getting destroyed. But that doesn’t happen because there’s not cause for one and they’re always portrayed as incompetent for two because there needs to be a lot of hand waving in these stories when you want to show of how amazing Wolfur Wolfkin is so you have him 1v10 the grey knights and an inquisitor. Oh damn isn’t he cool? Anyway no one ever asked about what happened there ever again moving on.
Anons: >Fight between Marines and Inquisition would be a nothingburgerAlso anons: >And this is how Horus Heresy 2.0 could succeedWild.
>>498370851>still using krak grenades despite all the talk and proof
>>498371360>The space wolves encounter should just be considered non canon because of how pants on head retarded it is.But it's canon, so it doesn't matter and your argument is moot. The Inquisition jobs to Astartes and you're just coping at this point.
>>498371360>Space wolves encounter was stupid and should be considered non-canon>anyway here's my word vomit about how everything has to go differently because I said so
>>498371098The new codex structure is even more retarded, now they’re hyper specialised like aspect warriors. >all they have to do is off the high lordsOh look those space marines are laying siege to terra again we know what happens next
>>498371504paranoid schizo secret police and super spies should job to an army. The problem is that the Inquisition has reached a level where they are a military force on their own with fancy stuff only they have.
>>498371360>The space wolves encounter should just be considered non canonThat's all 40k storiesThe only canon is the one in your head
>>498371331Isn't Emps turkish? How could Guilliman be related to Emps if Guilliman is blonde?
>>498371504>>498371591It is a truly awful book, have you read it? And again this isn’t really what the what if discussion was about, that was one inquisitor and some grey knights with their accompanying fleet, a somewhat small conflict that can be swept under the rug all records of it lost to time.
>>498371770The Primarchs have a bit of some warp stuff put into them so they are in a vague and nebulous state and the environment of their planets shaped them as much as their innate abilities had done to them.
>>498371770No he’s an ancient druid/shaman amalgam ritual baby thing
>>498371798Doesn't matter. Yes how it went down it's cringe. But it's still in canon proof that no one except Chapters that are already friendly with the Inquisition would join their side. You also assume that the Inquisition would quickly deal with a non-successor Space Marine Chapter, which is stupid.
>>498371770He is whatever he wishes you to see him as, however he is generally of non-descript race, as in, it isn't readily apparent if he is african, arab, anglo, nordic or what.
>>498371973Would you say your sources of information are secondary? They didn’t call other astartes to wipe out the wolves they mustered a lager imperial navy fleet to destroy fenris, but got teleports onto your bridge behind you. If the conflict was at the point that even successors are also being purged then it’s grown beyond the inquisition, now it’s the imperium against those chapters.
>>498372067>generally of non-descript race, as in, it isn't readily apparent if he is african, arab, anglo, nordic or whatso, a burger?
>>498372343People see him differently, his true form is probably psychic energy strong enough to drive you mad. A burger would see him as peak burger, so Ronald McDonald or something, African tribes would see him as some tribal god and so on.
>>498281209What is wrong with Ascension? It damages the gaunts around you, so when you land back on them again, you'll likely get enough refund for another charge to do it again.Ascension AoE+ Ground Pound AoE + Ascension AoE + Gound Pound AoE + Ascension AoE + Gound Pound AoE = super teabag of doom.It's a great combo to combat Assault's biggest weakness, which is crowd clearing (at least when playing power fist).
>>498372479
>>498372556My problem with it is fucking barrels exploding around me when I take off and it seeming to trigger the krak bug a lot. But that aside it’s easily the best of the bunch because they’re all a bit shit, dodge refund is fun since the jump pack dodge lets you dodge mid combo but it feels terrible when you didn’t get the perfect dodge so you’re just a charge down because fuck you
I’m bracing for the volkite pistol being a side grade to the plasma, as in only two classes can use it. I hope i’m wrong but I can see them doing it
>>498371360You're misrepresenting that event.I don't favor the wolves but that situation had more nuance than just an open war.
>>498373251A little, I’ve been downplaying the grey knights and inquisitors forces. It wasn’t actually a space wolves victory. Fenris was primed for destruction but no one was prepared to give the order because blowing up a first founding chapter is a pretty massive deal, Bjorn gave everyone a reason to end the conflict.
>>498372879Why are there undetonated barrels near a crowd? Shoot them!
>>498373863No, I want to ground pound them
>I have to get to Relic to get rid of the Phobos' armor derpy chest skullBruh
>>498373103As long as it's not only available to the same classes that already have access to Plasma then I'm cool with it.
>>498373931But that'll also get you killed.
A naked and defenseless Sister of Battle stands before the four Chaos Gods.Which hole would each of them fuck. Explain your reasoning.
>Try to do the second chainsword stomp like the thread told me to>It works maybe like 2 out of 5 timesThis game's a fucking pasta considering how much spaghetti is packed inside of it
>>498375367you're not doing it early enough
>>498375076>KhorneSkullfuck, like an actual skullfuck through the eye. Violent and bloody.>NurgleAnal with no prep, naturally.>SlaaneshSee, this is a potential trick question. Vaginal seems too tame for Slaanesh, but raping some daemon babies into an SoB would be right up its alley.>TzeentchThe thinking man, so armpits.>>498375367Huh? The second stomp has a comically large input window. If you're struggling with that, don't even attempt the second Ground Pound on the Thunder Hammer, it's hyper strict in comparison.
Why does Sniper sound like such a fucking nerd
>>498375608Scipius is based although inadvertently fruity at times.>If there's one thing I know, lieutenant, it's how to pin down an enemy
>>498375608token white character in the squad
>>498371770He's a ancient Anatolian
>>498375757Vespasius is white too. The squadron is neatly distributed by race.Valius/Straban = AsianVespasius/Scipius = CaucasianDecimus/Quartus = African
Does /tg/ have the pdfs for the Grimaldus books?
>>498343420>I've seen this happen to InfernoYou can get back up in Inferno, but it's finnicky
>>498375820>The squadron is neatly distributed by race.That didn't feel natural. It was one thing for Gadriel and Chairon to be asian and black while Titus is white, but then we see the B team and it's the same ratio. And then we see the C team and it's the same ratio again. 3 times in a row. That was so unlikely as to be immersion breaking for me.
>>498375871They have a thread up now with a torrent for "all" 40k books. You should be able to find what you need.
>>498376434All the characters are based and their races hold no relevance to their personality, so I don't care.
>>498376629>their races hold no relevance to their personalityExcept Decimus. Making him black while giving him a south african accent was a little on the nose.
>Massive Enemy Wave>Oh it's going to be warriors and whips again>3 billion spore mines, 4 vinenidders and 3 snipers insteadT-thanks
>>498377107>That one guy who complains about the whip warriors every threadWhat's the problem? You literally have a spidey sense for their attacks and can deal with them at range like any other majoris.>Spore minesShoot them to damage the nids.>Vine minesYou can shoot the central bulb to remove them>SnipersThey're a joke. They give you all the time you need to roll.
>>498377383I have no problem with Whip warriors.The other three are just fucking annoying to deal with. Difficulty doesn't equal annoyance.
Fun fact: 40k isn't set in the 40th millennium. It's set in the 42nd
>>498377383The issue is their mid range whip attacks have weird timings. Sword nidders are basic in their parry and dodge timings in comparison. It's annoying.
>>498379251>what do you mean the year 2024 isn't the second millennium but the third?
>>498379251We're still far away from the Men of Iron
>>498379251It's round down for 5 digits.
>>498379251I remember when it was set in the 41st
>>498379251>It's set in the 42ndit was retconned to be an error in the imperial calendar, so we're still at the very end of the 41st
>>498376532which thread anon I can't find it
>>498382095Right here!>>>/t/1281575
>>498382297Thank you brother
I'd like to see the nids try to stop this thing.
How do i effeciently play Bulwark? I find myself just killing shit and not using the sheild that much
>>498383108Parry
>Carni gets completely shut down the second you back into a cornerWhat the fuck
>>498384146???
>>498377383>You can shoot the central bulb to remove them>divert your attention towards a more immediate threat for a single moment>95% of the ground is now covered in vines and the entire hive fleet is between you and the nidders shooting the fucking things
>>498383108Just spam C or hold CWhen you get the perk that lets you execute Majoris enemies just press E everytime it pops up
>>498384197If you back up in a corner, the Carnifex just sits there and takes it. At least with bots.
>>498384146Trap the thing in the lift and just pelt it with Relic pistols
>>498384336I just melee it to death, the only thing that actually manages to hurt me is when it lifts up it's claws because I forget it deals damage.
>>498383108The shield is just nice to have when trying to close the distance to ranged enemies. Otherwise, you parry everything because the Bulwark's parry perks are busted, especially the one that deals damage around you. Stand in a horde and parry and everything dies.
>>498384146Carnifex is broken as shit.
Lethal should lift class restrictions.We need Assault/Devastator/Reiver/etc. squads.
>>498384843Bro was just feeling suicidal. The ranged attack was just a jolt from the Hivemind to do something
>>498384915it isn't like the Lichters who always do a blue attack when you walk backwards facing it. They clearly need to do some animations or put Carnifexes into arenas where it breaks through things.
>>498384891Lethal will just be Roofless pre-nerf with added on friendly fire.
>>498385000>walk backwards facing it.What does that mean?
>>498385000Most AI and hitboxes kind of feel off in a way I can't explain, maybe I am just HEARING THE VOICES TOO, or something
>>498385121>lock on to lichter concentrating when it isn't stealth or doing the ambush jump>walk backwards without attacking>Lichter always 100% charges you with a blue attack>repeatIn the case of the campaign boss it won't even run away so you can completely bully the thing with this strategem.
>get paired with two Japs>get the demolition codes>the two rush to the next checkpoint without checking for data or geneseed>I check for it>armoury data floating alone and a guardian relic>take both of them>massive wave incoming>they show up as I get down>choose to defend near the ammo box >2 Nips just stand there pinging on the rock>I retreat because there's too many mine shitters>suddenly they are forced to fight the wave in a corner>both the Tactical and Assault die>wave was defeated >I kick the stone wall>loading screen suddenly shows up and I got kickedNever play with Asians
>>498385591Just play with Anons from here or with bots. Bots are genuinely better than like 85% of normal players.
Space marines didn't always have fake abs under their armor. They used to have an exoskeletal array of actuators and fibre bundles.
>>498385236Interesting.
>>498385591It's not just Asians, there's a notable subset of players who just want to run to the end because they saw some youtube video about it while having no idea how to go fast and think it means ignoring everything that isn't right in front of them.The number of times I've seen someone grab the gene seed and then go down 2 minutes later because they ignored the rubric marine giving them a backrub is depressing.
>>49838632450% of all people are below average intelligence.
By "new enemy" on the roadmap they mean just a new majoris/extremus or boss, right? I shouldn't expect a whole new faction, right? All future operations will just be nids, right?
>>498385236Just learned there's a lock on
>>498386081who do you think the "abs" are?
>>498387260No they aren't but you might be for making dumb statements like that
>>498387279Could be genestealer cultists
>>498387279If it was a whole new faction it would've been called as such instead of saying it's a new enemy. Just expect a pink Lictor.
>>498387279They can palette swap chaos as well
>>498387302You're being suspiciously defensive, Anon.
>>498387279Its the bio titan that got leaked
Kill all nids
>>498387890Total nidder death
>>498387675Shouldn't it be a hive guard considering it needs to be something we can fight while also being a late stage organism?
>>498387675the biotitan is just a prop for the operation any new enemy is meant to be added not just in the new operations but also to make the gameplay of the existing operations slightly different
>>498388394Who knows? There's nothing to indicate what the fuck they are adding except for the leaks.
>>498387890
>>498388629Maybe they'll release a trailer showing off a bit of the new operation and cosmetics
>instead of focusing on making general Dark Angel Relic armor for all classes they do White Scar shitI don't get it, who the fuck asked for White Scars?
>>498389127Me.
>>498389127it's Scrum Master Alexiey's favorite chapter.
Apothecary when?
>>498389531In 3-4 hours usually
We're getting the update right before october ends, arent we.
>>498386081Primaris have those built in now.
>>498387362
>>4983895312025
>still no mk7 armor>still no tintable visors>still no control over customization elements like purity seals, chains, clothes etc.dead game
>>498391271All I want is the ability to put chapter emblems on the right pauldron.
>>498391360play a raven guard or carcharodon
>>498391429No you faggot, I want to play a good chapter.
>>498387279Genestealers are the last ones left. Unless they decided to bring in the derpy ones.
>>498387291Well it doesn't really do much. I actually wonder why it even exists.
>>498389531Literally the lowest priority class, just get good at the game>But I am already good-Then you don't need a healer.
>>498391871I want to be the healer faggot.
>>498391952Go play Throne and Liberty faggot
>>498391871Apothecaries aren't just healers, I can see a niche for them as a buffer/debuffer that can apply slowing and damaging poisons while administering combat drugs that increase the squad's fire rate, ability recharge, and melee attack speed.
>>498392197I just don't see an immediate need for Apothecary, desu. Chaplain seems the easiest to implement because Leandros is already in the game.
>>498391952>>498392197Apothecaries aren't healers though. The only support they give is on spot adrenaline shots and ripping your geneseed out while they kill your crippled ass. I guess removing the timer for getting downed would be good or removing lethal wounds. Otherwise they come with a free built in lethal medical device as their melee.
I hope they add more iron halos
>>498392446The status of the ops missions as being concurrent in time to the campaign missions would preclude Leandros from taking part, as he was doing other stuff at the time.
>>498393629I meant it as in, the model for the relic tier Chaplain armor is already there, so less work. And amending that is as simple as introducing the new Class with a new operation.
>starts the votekick the exact moment the other guy goes down for the first time>refuses to pick him up any other time he goes downwhat the fuck is wrong with people
Just a reminder that Imperial Fists canonically literally eat shit
>>498391952>the healer faggotoh I bet you do
>>498393750A chaplain would be a buffing class. Isn't that what bulwark does?
>>498393771I've let people who were being asses laying on the ground till the battle is over.
>>498393986Then literally no other class except for Librarian can be added.
>>498393986All classes buff the party dipshit.
>>498392446They are trained to provide medical care, though. Apothecaries have a lot of duties, which is why they're typically considered part of a chapter's overall command staff even if they're attached to, say, the 9th company.Hell, a Dark Angels apothecary delivered a baby in one story.
Brothers! I have been tasked with delivering the words of venerable Brother Chaplain Prahios unto the vile Daemon Engine ruthlessly plaguing the world of Demerium. Will you aid me on this holy quest?ME4YN
>>498394032Why?
>>498394701Is this still on?
>>4983951612/3 we haven't started yet, join us brother
>>498375820Where's my Indian representation? Where's my Latino Marine (In Deathwing, apparently)? Where's my Arab Marine? Slav Marine? Female Space Marine?Space Marine 2 is fucking RACIST!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
>>498395403Next game will 100% have even more diversity and female marines.
>>498395403>Where's my Indian representation?Isn't there an Indian Imperial Guardsman or whatever the fuck she is
>>498395237and 3/3 lets go
>>498395559Don't misgender. Not cool.
>>498395559She's not a Space Marine! Racist!!! Also I've been told she's Paki which is pretty funny because she looks and sounds like an average street shitter, so I guess they really aren't that different./spoiler]
>>498394701thank you brothers
>>498397486What was it?
>Be space marine 2>most of the time you are on the ground>you aren't a marine either>you are in 3 and not 2WOOOOW
>>498397486Hey neat achievement, wonder how close I am on it>3/25Dont want to play tactical anyway
>>498397323its the same people. same bullshit with turks and kurds.
>>498364051I will finally submit my dude since the Great Purges. Antratis, Blood Angels 1st Company, 2nd Squad Veteran.
>>498398760Nice gold helmet bro
>>498399216Yellow is for close support. It takes guts to wear those colors
>>498398760Brother your cursor
>>498398760Received.
>>498393771I only do that shit to people who pick the geneseed up without letting me grab it. Especially if I mention it ahead of time. I don't even need the XP, I already maxxed out all classes and all the weapons I like
>cant decide if I want my bulwark in Dark Angel, Fallen/Risen or Sword Brethren coloursHAAAAA MY AUTISM
>>498398094>tacticalIt's not about using Auspex to mark targets, it's about player pings. Also, if you play PvP, for the love of Emperor make it a habit to ping everything you see, including things you're in combat with (I rebound it to Mouse 4 just to have it at hand). It makes a hell of a difference, trust me
>>498400428The only correct choice is WHITE (power) TEMPLAR bulwark.
>>498399216>>498399475y-yeah...
>>498364051I'm finally happy with my dude.1st company vanguard veteran of the Lamenters chapter.
>>498400428Just save all three and switch between them. I go>Risen>Sword Brethern>Void Trident>Death CompanyAnd switch between operations
>>498400579the little wings make him look autistic
>>498398059you are playing as a primaris, a 'space marine 2'. checkmate atheists
>3 fully lore accurate first founding Chapters, down to the classFeels gud man
>>498397673it was 'Heldrake, fuck off'. It was funnier in my head.
>>498400725A space marine who isn't autistic is practically an aberration.
>>498400725The Lamenters are the most autistic chapter, what with their inability to not sacrifice 500 marines to save a single civilian and all.
How do you skill Power Sword?
God the powerfist feels so bad to use.
>>498402241Dash Punch. Learn it, live it, love it.
>>498402638>It's good because of a single moveLmaoCompare the fist to the sword or chainsword and it's no contest which is the worst
>>498402873I didn't say that. It's good because of other reasons. But Dash Punch ties it all together.
>>498402873That's not what he's saying, you fucking retard. He's saying that you need to use the dash punch and learn to enjoy it if you want to use the power fist.
>>498401943Bottom row
Wheres the update?
>>49840356131st
>>498403630That would be 2 more weeks plus three.
>>498403561Maybe we'll get something tomorrow.
>>498403775copium hopium huffium
>>498403883That's why I said 'maybe'.
The patch cannot penetrate the thread as it is fortified. We must let the patch in.
>>498404064This sounds like Iron Warrior propaganda.
Are grey knights and primaris marines on the same level?
>>498404064Nice try, Alpharius.
>>498404163NoGrey Knights are stronger and they're not even Primaris'd yetThey'll be refreshed and will get 100000% stronger
I only got the job because I was the highest ranking officer left alive but three men, that's all I can spare.
>>498404261Not strong enough to beat a bunch of furries apparently, lmao
>>498404346Nothing can beat fan favorites.
>>498404314Leandros was the highest ranking officer alive and is an actual Firstborn who saved Graia and turned in a heretic.
GELLAR FIELDS DOWN! WE ARE FALLING INTO THE WARP!
>>498287774>3 shooty factionsJesus Christ that would be god awful
>>498404163Fuck noGK's are a rung below customer and are all psykers.
>>498403561Three days is all I can spare.
>>498404829[muffled ork cries of excitement in the cargo hold]
>>498404163Not even close. Using some videogame examples, 3 Primaris Marines taking out a Hive Tyrant after dropping a 250,000 ton statue on it is impressive, but conceivable. In other words it's like a B-Tier feat, maybe A-Tier. The Tyrant was more than half dead, limping, and had massive pieces of rebar piercing it. In Chaos Gate Daemonhunters, 4 Grey Knights banish fucking Mortarion, a Daemon Primarch, on their own in single combat, with absolutely no crutches. GK are absurdly OP.
DO YOU HEAR THE VOICES TOO
>>498405168watch out he be MORBIN
>>498404163No but chaos niggers are about to be thanks to bile taking the sneed from cawl.
>>498404913>customer Custodes*
>>498405168Daemon Primarchs are jobbers, even Tyranids and Warbosses are more formidable.Every named GK has banished at least one daemon Primarch at least once in their career.
>>498405987and one even became one
>>498404618>Leandros ... saved GraiaI can't think of a single positive contribution he made in that game
>>498404848Bulwark and Heavy would get a lot more use out of their shields
>>498405987Could a grey knight beat a loyalist primarch? Personally I feel like G man would stomp any grey knight, which makes them beating demon primarchs seem retarded.
>>498406384Unlike in SM2 there was only one Thunderhawk available since it was a ragtag undermanned unit of 3. Even Titus had to ride a Valkyrie to get from point A to B.Leandros and Sidonus were flying solo and only fought alongside Titus sparingly.
>>498406479Gauss weapons and tau plasma would absolutely SHIT all over the trash we get shot at by at the moment, and that's on some of their most basic unitsFighting any of these factions would just not be fun with the gameplay we have
>Space Marine 2 at home
>>498406518>Could a grey knight beat a loyalist primarch?No, all the Loyalist Primarchs on the other hand are broken.Even Girlyman who is the "weakest" of the bunch can receive Big E buffs to mog his traitor brothers.GK is the product of that one Ultrasmurf lover wanking them off to the high heavens until one writer wrote an entire book of them getting shamed by another company favorite to bring them down a notch.
I am Alpharius.
>>498406713Ward made Crowe which basically makes up for Draigo thoughAnd they were OP as fuck (in fluff) back when they were represented in the DH codex and Stern was their only characterBut yeah ward wanked them, his worst transgression was slaughtering the sisters for literally no reason though, that was beyond retardedI miss 3e daemonhunters...
>>498406521The squad didn't split up so Leandros and Sidonus could go do other things. They split up due to being separated by the environment or so Titus could go be a distraction. The only objective the two NPC squad members do on their own is opening one of the doors for the titan, which was still at Titus' order. Leandros was just along for the ride the entire time.
>>498406713Oh also pretty sure Armageddon predates 5e GKs, that's back from when literally 99% of the population even knew chaos existed in the fluff, which was pants on head fucking retarded shitWards wank I'm almost certain comes after the space wolf wanking
>>498406713>GK is the product of that one Ultrasmurf lover wanking them off to the high heavensI hate shit like this. A chapter of space marines larping as knights and specializing in hunting demons appeals to me but I could do without all the super special OC power level shit.
>>498406686do we tell him?
>>498406925This. I always Sidonus was busy playing nanny to Leandros, which is why Titus had to solo the entire thing. Fitting that once Sidonus died Leandros immediately started doing stupid shit.
>>498407101Deathwatch and Grey Knights showed up together.
>>498407101https://wh40k.lexicanum.com/wiki/ExorcistsFIXED
>>498407269They're just discount and rejected GKsThe only thing they don't have are GK-specific wards and weaponryFunny enough they're more Thousand Sons than the actual loyalist Thousand Sons who are more inclined to perform larceny than actual sorcery/psyker stuff
>>498407168What?
>>498407430you're missing crons.
>>498407425that's exactly what that anon wanted though?GKs are supposed to be special, rare and mysterious spec ops boys, it was better when they were part of a wider Inquisition force rather than their own army thoughGW tried to bring that back a bit but they just made it miserable, I wish imperial agents wasn't such a dog shit codex
>>498407684IF the officially come will put them in
>>498407817>>498407817>>498407817
>>49828777490%+ of those units would pulp a whole unit of space marines without noticing. Imperialfags really are delusional.
>>498407927A bunch of Necrons warriors alone, the shit low tier Necrons minoris option would literally liquify the player in seconds
>>498408071That seems unbalanced
>>498401106Which chapters fit each class
>>498408071Necrons are especially delusional, but I blame it on there not being a Eldarfag equivalent in the thread to set things straight.All of them except Orks would feel horrible to fight against.
>>498406518Nah. In reality, a single GK couldn't actually take a Daemon Primarch, unless it's Kaldor Draigo (Aka the GK Chapter Master) and even then there'd be some warp trickery. But that's only because Kaldor is a huge mary sue and his weapons are fucking broken and look retarded.There's not really much of anything currently living in the setting that could 1v1 a Primarch in a fair fight. The only things that have, are>Marines who were chosen by Chaos and only 'won' because of emotional bullshit; see, Luther>Fuck-yuge Ork bosses that god strong enough to potentially destroy the whole galaxy (still lost)>Other Primarchs
>>498408779Uhm sweetie, the lost primarch, our spirital liege, Kaldor Draigo, burner down the gardens of nurgle and single handedly btfo the chaos gods.
>>498408631Necron Warriors are taller than Marines, they fix sustained damage in seconds and a single shot from a Gauss Flayer is enough to melt a Marine in half. They'd probably still die to a Marine with proper melee weapons, but the issue is getting close in first place.
>>498408779Crowe in crunch used to have a 50/50 chance to kill any model (with 100% chance of killing himself) which was extremely based and funny
>>498405987angron, mortarion and magnus are jobbersfulgrim is dangerous retardperturabo is probably absurdly powerfull
