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Previous thread >>498224829

>Now available EVERYWHERE (but nintendo switch and xbox one)

>Metaphor: ReFantazio Special Soundtrack https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_kT8go1ScWljmvHOjpzywgsnV1fI036Ovg

>Metaphor: ReFantazio peaks at 85k concurrent players on Steam!

>Metaphor: ReFantazio surpasses 1m sales on launch day

>Kino Commercial
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MDDTdS9rRdA
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why does strength stat exist when you can just use magic
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what else should i add to the OP?
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ugliest game of the year for sure
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>>498282767
maybe if you're retarded
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>fortunes grasp says 1.5x archetype exp

ok cool

>archetypal ring says increases archetype exp gained

where is number? how much? game?
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Why is Eloquence so hard to raise?
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>>498283169
about tree fiddy
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What order did you do things in Martira? I've got a save I can load on 06/29 and I'm trying out all the different possible routes. So far the mimic dungeon seems too hard for me (my party is level 18), gonna try the goblin bounty instead.
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>>498282764
>Beat ??? in second legacy dungeon
>Got Health Incense
Give me back the two hours I spent trying
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>>498282945
>what difficulty should you play
>ehh normu modu
>only kids play normu modu
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>>498282764
Vote for Pedro
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>>498282817
What ups the horror factor in particular is because it takes what people would normally consider cute and a figure to be protected and twists it into something so wrong and grotesque. It's very design has something in common with what makes Silent Hill so horrifying. Adding something alien and monstrous into something we would be familiar with ups the scare factor

Not helping matters is when by this point you already know that it has eaten children offscreen with a toothy jaw, you have seen it eat somebody offscreen and you also see it eat somebody right in front of the party even if its just in shadow
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Is this true?
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>>498282945
Gallica's feet
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>>498283625
sexo
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>>498283625
Me on the right
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>>498283665
A tooth is fine too.
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Dunno how I feel about about the "press L to restart the fight" button.

On the one hand, it encourages tedious gameplay like constantly restarting a fight until you succeed on a crit or steal.

On the other hand, when a single miss or crit can completely fuck you over, it's nice that you can quickly take a mulligan.

On the third hand, why are we designing the game where a single miss can ruin a fight?

On the fourth hand, I'm having fun so I guess they're doing something right.
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I think I've made a mistake
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>>498283643
this desu
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>20th most popular person in the entire country
>Heroes' Souls: Actually you're still a colossal faggot
Their standards are way too high. Philemon is like the head of pre-Musk twitter in comparison
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>>498283858
It's good. Sometimes a fight goes so poorly that you end up having to wait for them to finish you off. Reset just speeds up that process. Resetting for rng is cringe though. Take your failed steal attempts like a man.
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>>498283858
It's weird, I'm trying to minimize my use of it but what else are you going to do when the enemy crits and wipes out half your squad on the first turn?
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persona combat with a bunch of redundant bells and whistles added
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In happy to hear that the fourth dungeon is supposedly the filter because I'm about to do it without having done any of the side shit surely this will go fine
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>>498283858
Not everyone is going to autistically minmax their first turn. I'm going to, but not everyone is autistic, or playing on hard.
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so this is gonna unlock a final FINAL archetype in each lineage way later in the game right?
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>>498284239
Try harder /v/ermin
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>>498283858
It lets you learn what an enemy is weak to without just wasting a bunch of MP, so I like it.
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>>498284321
is what it is you even summon personas and allocate stats as you would in that game lul
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>>498284239
It's more SMT combat than it is Persona but of course a secondary has never actually played a mainline SMT game.
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I'm I doomed bros...? All the cathedral stuff and that side dungeon were a bit challanging on hard but I had a good time.
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ARCHETYPE SEX IMPREGNATION
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>>498283858
It's there to mitigate rng probably.
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I got all my virtues to 2 but I wonder if theres any more virtue gates in ch 2. I ended up preemptively leveling Eloquence and Courage to 2 but is there anything else?
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>>498284652
>Am I*
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>>498284652
you're going to get fucked in the ass during puzzle segments where you have to fight solo
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Heads up: When you're on the boat headed to the Island after getting your 5th party member you have a choice to spend time with any member of the gauntlet runner crew. If you press the "talk to Gallica" button you can choose her!
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>>498284867
Why would I do that...?
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>>498284916
She's my wife
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>>498283858
im not gonna restart a fight unless a miss or an enemy crit happens on turn 1 desu but thats just me i guess

honestly the people complaining about this mechanic should be me sore complaining how often the game autosaves, literally any time you pick up an item or open the chest you get a free checkpoint
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>>498284943
I know she's my wife, but who is yours?
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Is there a mod to remove Gallica speaking in battles ? The English VA cast is pretty good but just her screaming all the time in battles made me switch to JP.
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>>498285146
Gallica
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What are the most useless archetypes? If there is one
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This must be the first Atlus game I played that the speaking voice in animated cutscenes isn't 90% quieter than everywhere else.
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>>498285042
That's good. Losing 3 hours of progress in Cockturne because lollmao back attack crit your MC almost made me drop that game.
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>>498283295
>Why is Eloquence so hard to raise?
The dub lisp is canon.
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>>498284867
Because your alternative options are not nearly as cute as pocket wife.
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>>498285221
I solely play JP because of the battle and dungeon callouts becoming super fucking obnoxious, reminds me of playing Sand Land with the crew callin out every time you picked up an item which was every other second
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>>498283858
>why are we designing the game where a single miss can ruin a fight
Because it's based and it fits the story and themes way too well which is also why you can be 5 levels above something but still lose half your HP in one hit in action mode
It's a natural step forward from P5 where instead of it being about fighting something external that warps the internal, you're fighting something internal that you can't get rid of no matter what
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>>498284867
Wtf I didn't know that. I talked to the older dog brother.....
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Goddammit, Maria's social link got me teary eyed.
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what are you using the archetype exp items for?
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>>498284867
But does she give me a +5 to all stats accessory like Chadsilio?
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>>498285221
All the English VAs are garbage.
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>>498285567
Yup, the items they give all provide the same stats.
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>everybody awakening to their new notpersona inner power
>this isn't a persona game btw
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I need to impregnate Maria
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>>498285650
Ok so that means pick a different one every playthrough
Thanks anon
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>>498285619
I like them so far except MC and Gallica. MC barely speaks so it's not really an issue, but Gallica has 90% of the lines spoken when taking battles into account
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>>498285695
>Has it own "blue room"
>Has awakening
This is just medival persona and I am only in the first few hours.
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>>498285619
this, I couldnt play without how cute gallica sounds in JP or how much of a chad Heismay is
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>>498285539
Saving them for Metaphor 2.
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This might be a dumb question, but which is stronger, severe damage or extreme? So far i know that light<medium<heavy
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>>498285828
You try to make the obvious comparisons that are literally everywhere about how Metaphor didn't separate itself at all from Persona and people got nuts
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>>498286086
Dont bother relying on that shit. You'll need a datamine to figure out actual move dmg.
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>>498285695
>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Persona_(psychology)#Later_developments
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Is Strohl on Commander any good? I was thinking of having the Thief guy pick up levels in Faker or Gunner meanwhile to round up his skillset
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>>498286318
everyone's well rounded enough you can put them on anything
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>following a guide so I can just max followers then do what ever
>has you fighting this guy when I’m level 30
What the fuck was the person making this guide thinking?
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>>498286318
Oh yeah, he's great with it because it uses STR but gives him a bunch of elemental attack types.
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>>498286318
Strohl commander carried me through the second city, and good idea to max it to get the next archetype too for a later quest
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>>498284652
Why would you go that hard into luck? Like unless you’re in NG+ you don’t do that shit
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XVI won
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>>498286642
>t. MAG sissy
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>>498286642
If you can't win with meme builds the game is poorly designed
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huge gigacuckold here. need recommendations
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>>498286452
Is it the guide that also tells you to play on storyteller difficulty?
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>>498286452
I'm way past fighting this thing and I'm not even level 30 yet
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How do I know what skills scale with what stats? Or is this like P5 or whatever and they don't scale at all? Is gunner a magic or physical class? Do classes have different stat growths?

So much of this shit isn't explained
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Where can I check what the fuck hex or malice or whatever the fuck else does?
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>>498286783
Junah is your girl.
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>>498286452
I thought the same thing. Your best bet is to debuff the hell out of his accuracy with items so when Heismay (who you can increase evasion for with his gear or buffs) dodges it eats his attacks. Then debuff his defense multiple stages too and wail on him with your best attacks.
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>>498286834
Oh fuck it is recommended you to play on storyteller, no fucking wonder they had me fighting a level 60 boss at 30. They probably were 50+ by then
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>>498286976
You fight it again
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>>498286980
It is explained. If it's Physical damage, IE Slash/Pierce/Blunt, it works off your STR, and states it's Physical. There are some elemental attacks that will say Physical, these also work off your STR, for example Fiery Strike on Commander. Otherwise elemental attacks will be magical and work off your MAG. Anything that works differently will tell you in the description, generally.
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>>498286452
I beat this thing at like level 25, what's the problem? I thought it had very little HP, actually.
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>>498284652
>he fell for the full luck meme when you get free luck points later, item drop passives, and Steal(Ag based)
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>press dash
>*moans*
gay
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>>498287485
That was the weaken version, you fight the real version on a followers level 7 rank mission and its level 60, you see the follower in the top left buffing you at the start of the fight
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>>498287586
>Steal(Ag based)
who cares?
>don't manage to steal x
>reset turn 1
wooow
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Where tf do I continue Catherina's social link? I beat her 3 times and now she's gone for like the last 2 chapters. I'm currently at the point where Louis challenged me to duel
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>>498287878
>he doesn’t steal
Oh no bro you’re missing out on so much stuff
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>>498287835
Learn to get better
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>>498287996
dude just read past the first line, the point is that steal chance has no meaning when you can just reset turn 1 until you steal the item
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>>498287878
Unfortunately you will need to steal from Mimics to keep Purifying everything, though you can also choose to be pickier on what you purify.
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>need to spend nearly 40k mag on hulkenberg for paladin and dark knight
christ, which should i get first?
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>>498286783
>>498287183
why are you replying to yourself?
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Are Basilio and Fidelio dogs or are they cats?
Basilio acts more like a dog but he also does that thing cats do where they lick their paw and scratch their ears, and Fidelio has dog ears but has cat ears (might be the droopy ear cat type)
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>>498282764
>debate with other candidates
>they have lofty ideal
>answer "but what about discrimination"
>win every argument because as am Elda they must agree with me when I mention the racecard
Is this how it is in real life politics too?
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Where do you buy cooking ingredients? I can't find salt anywhere.
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>all the days of the week have fancy fantasy names like Idlesday and Flamesday
>The names of the month are completely normal stuff like September and August
I don't get it.
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>>498288767
>hey I want to give everyone a huge mechas
>how will we pay for that
>win
Just that easy
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>>498288767
>ask about my opposition's tax policy
>everybody is extremely impressed
Yeah I'm thinking KINO
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>>498288885
It's a lot harder and more confusing for the players to remember 12 different dates not to mention coming up with the names. The days of the week are based on Japanese days of the week in the first place
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Where is the merch? I want this girl in as many forms as I can have her.
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why do we not call strohl and hulk by their names?
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>>498289000
>Yeah that's a good point, I agree. Wait why is everyone taking his side now AIIIIIIIIEEEEEEEEEE
stoopid bat
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damn you can already max out Strohl's bond by the third town
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Is it true this is the gayest Atlus game ever made?
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>>498289418
She isn’t smart but she is pretty cute, it’s fun to bully her
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>>498288767
>>498289000
I haven't got to any of these yet. Are they actual intuitive or are they like usual Atlus bullshit like Demon recruiting where you basically need to play with a guide open to get the right answers?
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>>498289389
I call hulkenberg by her full name when we are alone and stroking her ears
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>>498287234

Good thing I'm following this guide instead.

https://www.rpgsite.net/guide/16304-metaphor-refantazio-100-follower-bond-rank-walkthrough
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Do duplicates of the same passive stack? Like the merchant 20% item drop after battle? If you had 2 merchants would that be an even higher chance?
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>>498289923
i don't recall asking about your cringe self insertion fantasies
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>>498287884
anyone?
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>P3R has the option to change the battle theme in the menu without swapping costumes
>metaphor goes back to HAVING to use the specific costume for the bgm
one step forward two steps back huh? what the hell
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>>498290239
This site truly is the best for anything jrpg
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>>498289863
Just go into towns and you see them talking about stuff and you can debate them, you don’t need a guide or anything for them
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>>498290706
You do get an achievement for winning in a debate against each of them at least once it seems
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>>498290239
Is that part about dialogue choices not affecting things true? I feel like you can change the outcomes of a few things depending on your choices
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>>498288491
Found the Junahcuck.
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>>498283858
Is the mechanic perfected? No.

Is it better than playing a game where you literally cannot lose as long as you use at least a neutral damage skill and maybe have a crumb of healing? Yes.

Is it better than games that you have to play for 100 hours before 90% of gameplay is anything other than walking back to where you died and repeating the fight? Arguably.

But yeah, mainly it just mitigates RNG nonsense wipes and makes it easier to scout weaknesses.
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>guides
Small pp
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>>498290239
Yea this one is much better but shouldn’t be too hard to keep following the one I am
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>>498290836

Why

do

you

type

like

a

retard?
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>>498290827
They don’t matter for social stuff but for raising stats it matters
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>>498290827
There are some, like the books you read in the Gauntlet Runner & debate dialogue options, that can affect how much of a social stat you gain. That guide covers them but the ones during social links don't affect anything aside from bonus MAG.
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>>498290827
he meaing affecting like in persona,where 1 dialogue can give you 1 or 3 points for the social link and thank god they removed that,is retarded
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>>498290847
Shit is mandatory in Persona. Which is why I hate Persona. Thankfully guides are entirely unnecessary in Metaphor.
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>>498290245
Supposedly it stacks according to some other anons
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>>498290239
>using a guide
>>498291020
why are people on this site so autistic about text formatting?
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>>498291075
>>498291186
>>498291225
it felt like you could possibly get a bad ending for a companion if you messed up with your dialogue choices but I might just be too hopeful
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im in the 1st dung and its my 1st time playing a game like this
kind of want to start over or restore a previous save. not really liking mage

is this normal?
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>>498290309
You didn’t specify
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>>498290847
>>498291309
Don’t like to miss stuff
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>>498291584
Switch archetypes, dummy
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>>498291809
faggot
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>view other peoples parties and formations
>they are all the same
damn they really knocked it out of the park with this highly customizable party feature
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Kinda feel bad you couldn't get Glodell as a companion, I felt they were hyping him up as changing to your side
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>the skateboarding scene in louis' ship
holy cringekino
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I wish regicide lowered player damage/increased enemy hp but it's same as hard you just take more damage

the bosses seem so undertuned health wise or i's too easy to do damage and atlus can't tune fights correctly with weapons scaling with skills + synethis opness now
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>wasted a day sitting at a dungeon I already completed
Fuck this dialogue tree.
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does cooking unlock anything special?
I havent been doing it at all
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>>498292725
no and it's not worth doing until you get to Maria rank 4
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>>498291238
Yes I’m starting to see that now
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>>498292725
Food is OP. Recommend waiting until you get Maria's link up before you cook though.
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>>498292725
Food is really fucking good, magical bread is one of the best things ever
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How difficult is this game on normal? For a normal functioning adult.
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>>498292998
Hard is the default difficulty
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>>498292725
food is just OP potions and buffs, also Neuras tells you that once you cook one of every recipe you unlock a god recipe.
The food they regens your mp for 60 seconds in a dungeon has saved me a ton
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>>498292998
I hear people say it's pretty inconsistent but I'm finding it to be even easier than Persona 5 was so far.
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what was gallica thinking here?
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>>498292998
normal is super easy and hard is actually challenging in places
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C9ND-NG7H-6A2X
If anyone in EU on PS5 wants the preorder bonuses. You can have them.
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>>498293097
But I was told all the girls hated this main character?
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Where the fuck Catherina holy shit my STR MC still stuck at base brawler
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>>498293097
>can't pick a queen
fucking Atlus the one time you needed to do your thing
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Are bath salts permanent stat boosts?
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>>498293031
heh I can see it from miles away, I mean Neuras already hinted it from his social link
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>>498293719
thats for the Methaphor:Refantazio Fantasy edition comming out in 2026
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Why the fuck is this guy in a JRPG?
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I still haven't found better fist, what gives?
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>>498293097
Death to all normal sized women
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>>498294256
>missed legendary stolen fist
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Persona 5 veteran here. Beaten that game multiple times on the hardest difficulty! Well, what do you think about this one? Can I handle it on hard??
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>>498294250
Hashino saw him and Iggy Pop on an episode of the venture bros and thought it would be cool
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I feel like it's possible this game might be going for an Utawarerumono twist where it's revealed that the world the game is set in is actually ours in the far future after normal humans have gone extinct.
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>>498294749
>>498293031
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I don't get the 3rd story dungeon, we did all that and nobody knew acting like it was stealth? when we fought those mini bosses? they told nobody? and we just went our merry way?
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>>498294256
Hope you’re stealing from the pink girl
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Bad weather is an insanely huge nerf, especially on hard mode. The turn action economy just goes to shit lmao.
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>You feel like studying X has slightly...
Alt+F4
like holy shit how many choices have I fucked up
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>>498294925
but you didn't have access to thief when you fought her for the first time, oh there will be another fight? sweet thanks
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>>498294860
Speedreader, did you miss all the lines where they said that power is everything & they'd be too embarrassed to report about their loss to you?
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>>498294982
just get 4 of the pendants that make all your attacks crit during rainy days
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>>498293506
Think you only see her the 3rd time when you’re going to the 3rd town, also steal from her
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LOUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIISSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS!!!!
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>>498295157
I saw that but I thought that would be like them running away instanly and telling everyone right this second so there no reinforcements but they just say nothing ..ever... super contrived.
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>>498295065
Yes you fight her after you get thief and seems you fight her again after that for a third time for a pink fist to steal
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I'd bend MC over a chair and fuck them silly tbqh
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>>498295501
That’s nice Junah
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Stupid fucking college classes slowing down my progress. Probably would've been 40% through the game right now rather than just starting the second town.
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>>498294594
Metaphor Hard is SMTV normal mode
Baby wants his bottle tier
Regicide is SMTV on hard mode
Piss easy tier
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>>498294813
Yeah I guess it was obvious with the book being about modern society and the literal human enemies. Thinking about it this game's plot is literally Utawarerumono.
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>>498287996
Stealing is bad an unbecoming of the king seeker.
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this skill seems extremely overpowered and very well suited for no damage runs. literally just reset the time if you dont get your expected results. wtf were they thinking with that mechanic anyways? steal doesnt work? reset the time. you miss? reset the time. reminds me of fire emblem, same cheese strats
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>>498295817
SMTV is the Persona of SMT games
No wonder it flopped
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>>498295927
It's broken as fuck, yeah. The only downside is that is uses a lot of mp.
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>>498295157
>power is everything
Wow!
Just like in the postmodern and Foucaldian conception of "truth" (not actually truth)
see "The Vacuity of Postmodern Methodology" by Nicholas Shackel
It also is along the same lines of postmarxoid wokies.
Does this mean they made the wokesters into the bad guys in a hame about overcoming tribal, folkish even, division?
If so, Louis going full demagogue makes even more sense!
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i cant beat the bird boss
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>this was actually the new etrian odyssey all along
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I wonder how much money I should farm off the first red crystal.
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>>498296950
That has a real job system tho
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>>498296950
fucks etrian odysey
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So does MC's heterochromia actually have any plot relevance or is it just there to look cool?
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>>498297317
Yes.
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>>498283358
>they see your weenie
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These things are fucking obscene. This game is really hard on, well, hard.
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That wasn't worth it
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>>498297983
just use the merchant skill
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The etrian DLC costumes, only have costumes for the characters appearing on the picture, or every playable character gets one?
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>>498298056
I did, doesn't exactly stop them from raping you.
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>>498298021
Yeah, it was really disappointing to see nothing really changes. It was not even a hard fight, just long.
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>knock out 20 guards
>fight named guards

>louis never finds out
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I think I need to turn this back to normal difficulty. I don't know how you people play this shit on hard.
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>>498283625
The strongest.....
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I really, really dislike games like this where status effects are completely useless against enemies but you can't properly protect yourself from them at all. This game isn't fun on hard and I'm sure it's boring on normal.
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>>498298349
>>498298573
hard mode feels untested to me, i'm thinking about putting it on normal. definitely the worst hard mode i've seen in a rpg in a while sadly.
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>>498298573
wdym the combat is great it has to be otherwise its just a watered down persona game
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>>498298775
what's your problem with it? I certainly find it more balanced than SMTV's hard mode
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>>498298878
I found SMTV a LOT easier, though I haven't played Vengeance so maybe that's harder? Like how do you properly fight this thing >>498297983 without just getting ridiculously lucky or resetting 20 times? The only chance I had was to just let it game over me and come back later which is retarded. You don't have as many options to build your team as in SMT (which makes sense because it's a creature game but still)
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Genuine question. How is the localization? Is it okay enough to play now or wait for fan translations?
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>>498292998
Piss easy. Hard is also pretty easy.
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>>498298878
pretty much what the other guy said there's no challenge on normal and its not fun on hard. I thought smtv was fun on normal
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>>498295762
You must be 18 to use this website.
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>>498299206
does shit like this bother you
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>>498299168
just use the merchant skill, sukunda and hama, you don't need anything else. Are you like, extremely underleveled or something?
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>>498298183
everyone gets one
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>>498299168
Have you tried not sucking at video games?
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>>498298573
I like what they did where you can go to an informant to learn the weaknesses of specific bosses and some of them have weaknesses to certain statuses.
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>>498299429
>Use Merchant skill
>Mimic is enticed by money!
>Mimic uses sleeping as (hits 2)
>Mimic is enticed by money
Now I have to cure the sleep or I instantly lose.
>Mimic uses pulversing whatever
>Mimic uses skull basher (hits merchant so he can't use gil toss)
>Mimic does some other shit, I basically die.
The action economy is just isn't there. I unironically get the feeling some of you just reset the battle entirely on the slightest inconvience but don't count that as a game over (it is) and then say it's easy. I beat SMTV on hard (and it wasn't that hard) and this game is far, far more difficult. I cannot see an argument against it.
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>>498297705
>weenie
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Someone explain to me how this new battle system works. I don't get how turns work and why can't I see who goes next?
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>>498299913
>new
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>>498299398
eh... it will do
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>>498299913
>new battle system
it's SMT press turn
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>>498299946
Where is my all out attack?
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>>498299168
>corrosive dust or Fakerto lower DEF
>pass turns so mage can use Ice move on it twice
>use one Ice damage item to get an extra turn if need be
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so masked dancer is just a class that can use more skills without inheriting? and saves mag kinda?
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But why though?
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>>498300063
It's only weak to hama.
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>>498299913
its persona with a job system, thats it. so just switch jobs whenever you're stuck and then say how epic the party creator is
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anyone experience their characters and enemies going invisible. I just wanna play the game but all these technical issues are killing me
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>>498299398
>Japanese potty "humor"
sovl
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>>498300143
Oh I mixed up my enemies. Whoops. Just use Brawler + Mage synthesis to hit it for 700-800 lol
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How do I get past the bird in the mine? He keeps beating me.
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i think smt5 is easier on hard too, and more enjoyable. the entire point of this game seems to be killing everything before they ever get a turn except nothing has weaknesses so you can't do that. you spend more time in menus constantly switching around everyone's jobs for every fucking battle so they're actually winnable. i personally found it too difficult to be enjoyable, not sure if i'm going back to it.
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>>498299845
>I unironically get the feeling some of you just reset the battle entirely on the slightest inconvience but don't count that as a game over (it is) and then say it's easy.
That's exactly what they're doing.
>>498295927
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Should I put my MC on mage early on? I feel like I need more magic when both my other 2 party members are clearly physical focused classes.
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I wish the game would just instantly game over me if I get ambushed. There's no point in even trying and I'm currently just alt-f4ing if it happens. I don't think I've EVER won a battle where I got ambushed lol, just a 5 minute time waster. I guess that's punishment in a way.
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>>498300468
You're railroaded into Mage unless you want a harder game. You unlock other classes later in the game that are Magic based while you still don't have party members with magic stats.
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>>498300730
then whats the point of these other stats lol this game sucks
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>>498300210
I've had my archetype go invisible in the main menu but not outside
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>>498300730
Yeah. I was planning on going for a more mixed jack of all trades build for MC anyway so that works out fine.
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Why is luck a meme build? Isn't getting more items and crits worth it?
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>>498299845
>Mimic uses sleeping as (hits 2)
what are accesories
>I unironically get the feeling some of you just reset the battle entirely on the slightest inconvience but don't count that as a game over (it is)
so you don't use the tools the game provides and then you cry about the game being too hard? lol lmaoing even honestly
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these premium bathing items seem really op, they pretty much give you a free level up
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>>498300839
You can permanently increase all your other stats with items later in the game so multi-classing is very viable later on.
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gonna play
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>>498301025
>so you don't use the tools the game provides and then you cry about the game being too hard? lol lmaoing even honestly
if you're doing this you have autism and you're basically just admitting the game is hard as fuck lol
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>grind out MP with Mage for minutes on weak dogs
>reset immediately because of a single miss or enemy crit
>following guides
>"The game is easy lol" or "You didn't actually beat the game"
It really is Souls all over again.
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>>498301312
Hard is balanced around it, and yes, hard is hard, I never implied otherwise.
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dude just feels impossible to beat. are you practically forced to switch jobs for some bosses?
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you guys are making hard sound like an enormous drag instead of something fun.
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People are saying this is longer than P5 but I only have less than a month left on the calendar and it still quite a bit shorter.
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>>498301379
If an enemy boss or elite unit crits it's basically over for you anyway
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>>498301509
of course
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is this game persona 5 popular or persona 3 reload popular?
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>>498301692
Metaphor popular, a tier of its own.
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>>498301520
Metaspergs will say anything to make this game seem comparable to Persona.
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hard is mostly fine but in some battles that extra press turn feels really just added on without any thought. some AI scripts aren't designed around it at all. zorba for example actually is pretty cool with an extra turn, but those mimics mentioned in the thread just feel kind of ridiculous. like sleeping gas > aoe phys attack > sleeping guess? i know you can stop it with the merchant skill but that still means it does sleeping gas > sleeping gas which is just as bad.

>>498301692
in between
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>>498301692
its pretty popular either way. which hopefully brings us some kino mods
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Help I am addicted to money.
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>>498300468
You can put Hulk on mage duty since she needs ranks in it for her knight specialization and then make your MC the Healer.
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i wish someone would mod it so you don't have to fight when you get ambushed and you just game over instead. this is really killing the game for me.
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>>498302008
You could just not get ambushed.
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>>498302008
>he can't into animation canceling
punished for lack of skill
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>>498301954
You can also just keep Hulk on Knight, give her the AoE heal Igniter, then inherit Hama on your Mage/Seeker
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can magic crit?
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>atluscucks buy new game on day 1 knowing that atlus will release a better version in a year
why do you guys do this? seriously, what's the mentality of buying a lesser product when you know you are just going to buy the better version in the future?
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>>498302419
I just have the money
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>>498301692
A lot more popular than P3R but we'll have to see if it's P5 popular I think. P5 is really fucking popular.
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>repel all physical damage
what a fucking gay monster
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>>498300928
i can load my state to before and the goblines were fine but it seems every single enemy in this this dungeon are like this. may try to reinstall. this is just so tilting
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>>498302419
And knowing its a worse version of an already existing game. Big time paypiggies.
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>>498302516
More like Kadabitch, I beat his ass and the chimera by having a party of 4 thieves constantly lifestealing him.
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>>498302419
It's only $5
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>>498302419
Played P5 day one and it took me like 3 years after Royal came out for me to play it. That's a lot of time between playthrough.
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>>498302419
Let me guess, Sparking Zero player?
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whys grius look the same if the memory was from 12 years ago
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>>498302419
Atlus just makes really good games, i love 80% of their output and even though they are turbojews i am willing to pay for a lesser version of Metaphor Royal edition because even then it will be really good.
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>>498303000
his race ages slowly or some shit
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So I was pumping magic into MC for the start of the game and just unlocked Mage, but now I find out your archetype also determines what kind of attack you do in the field. Point being, Mage's field attack is so dogshit it basically makes it impossible for me to engage with the field combat mechanic. Did I just ruin this mechanic for myself for the entire game because I wanted to do a magic build?
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To people not struggling on hard:
>Are you doing dungeons in one day?
>How much degeneracy are you engaging in (ie mp farming with mage, merchant money grinding on crystals etc)
>How much exp grinding are you doing?
Not even judging if you do but I'm pretty surprised hard is easy to some of you.
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>>498303125
you just suck
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>>498303125
MCs class is hybrid anyway so start putting some points in STR
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>>498295910
Good thing we don’t steal, the bat does
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should i try to get the minotaur accessory? how good is it?
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>>498303149
>yes
>small amount of running around with mage to gain some MP back.
>pretty much none outside of the above mage recovery.
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>>498303336
no you can get it later
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>>498300989
Merchant has a inheritable passive that increases item drop rate by 20%, and Thief has a hero passive that increases item drops when stunning/killing overworld mobs.
Every 5 days you get +1 luck for free from the ship's toilet, so using levelups on it has less value. I've been doing Mag > Str and luck has been keeping pace as well from free stats and been getting me rare drops.
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im in the 2nd dungeon and im not really having fun anymore because of the difficulty :( its not the good kind of difficulty.
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I love my vita so much bros
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>>498303446
how?
I was overleveled for the second dungeon and did 0 farming beforehand
surely you did bounties and other side quests right?
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>>498303164
I was easily getting ambushes on every field enemy before I switched to Mage. Good for you if you like playing Mage in the field but I don't.
>>498303263
MC gets his own class or something?
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>>498303529
i remember doing that with VV, one of these days ill buy one of those super android handhelds like a RP4 or odin mini
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>>498301379
>in tomb with roaming Minotaurs
>if they surprise you it’s pretty much game over
This is why I play on storytelling
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wow playing as jew class is actually busted
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Am I missing something with masked dancer or is it pretty shit? When you get it it has overall less stats and damage/defense compared to other classes and you lose an accessory slot because you gotta have a mask
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>>498303781
>if they surprise you it’s pretty much game over
as it should be, do you complain about FOEs too?
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Why is she black?
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>>498301520
is this game really that much shorter than p5??
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>>498303621
i did some bounties. it's just really fucking hard, there's so many enemies and i'm running out of mp halfway through. also mimics are just an instant rebooting the game too, what a stupid enemy.
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>>498304083
And why is everybody in this racist fantasy world okay with that?
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>>498302516
Just brawler+healing light punch him?
>>498302650
>chimera
Just knight+mage guard against all elemental attacks?
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>>498304083
Because the mc is white
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>>498304219
>Just knight+mage guard against all elemental attacks?
Tried that several times but didn't quite work, the 4 thieves strategy worked flawlessly
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>>498304207
the fantasy is that people hate hornless people instead of brown people
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I'm playing on storyteller.
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This game is way too fucking easy for an SMT vet like myself
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the 2nd dungeon is too much of a difficulty spike because there's no low level enemies to regen mp on lmao
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>>498303125
You use the stave/staff attack to get an extra turn, it doesn't need to do damage
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>>498304112
Yes. It's the FFXVI of Persona games.
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>>498304595
for me its the opposite. im normally good at these games
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>>498303673
have you tried pressing the dodge button?
it's there for a reason
>>498304167
mimics have a gimmick and you don't known what it is it's entirely on you for not buying info/reading dialogues
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>>498304746
How far in are you? I finished all the second cities dungeons last night, im like level 28 i might be overleveled lol
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>>498304167
After your first mimic fight you should have realized you can use explode them with the Brawler Synthesis Light Damage nuke. There's no need to use a Merchant for them.
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>>498283537
The first point is technically not true. The second point is true from a game mechanics perspective but a couple of these bitches are definitely into the protag. The third point is up to you.
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>>498304595
What do you mean? SMT is also easy.
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>>498304959
im in the first city still, i just fought minotaur and im 2 days away from the "sanctist anouncement"
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how many "main story" dungeons are there? like eachtime you have a count down date
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What was your Zorba (hard) strat?
>MC unga bunga skull crusher
>Synthesis unga bunga move with Stahl
>Hulkenburg (you're so fucking useless) skip turn to get MC or Stahl to hit.
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>>498305045
>The first point is technically not true.
NTA but what do you mean technically? The game so far up to where I've just unlocked the persona social sim stuff has been pretty blunt about YOU being the one who's going to become king.
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>>498304959
28 is enormously overleveled if you meant the well. I went in there at level 21. No shit it's easy.
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>>498283858
>why are we designing the game where a single miss can ruin a fight?
First time experiencing SMT's approach to combat?
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>>498305174
>Use AoE Light damage Magic Igniter on summons
>one AoE Light damage item
It was a joke
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>>498304751
kys shitskin. I should've expected no better from these threads. Nothing but spics and brazilians in the SMT community here
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>>498305246
28 after doing ALL the dungeons in that area, i was like 23 when i went in the well
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>>498305320
>light ignitor
hmm that's weird that sounds like you cheated as you didn't do the dungeon literally first thing.
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>>498305405
that's a great argument anon
have fun sucking at vidya
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>>498305174
Hulkenburg on monk with strike dodge + taunting from knight every turn to try and get zombies to attack her and either resist or dodge to waste press turns.
MC buffs Strohl
Strohl beats the shit out of Zorba, if a zombie gets enraged by Zorba he uses bamboo cutter (monk/warrior) to one shot it and get a press turn back.
Reset if I get bad luck with paralyze hits

>>498305256
SMT is less punishing than this with the exception of like hard Nocturne ambushes. You have WAY more resists/blocks/absorbs in SMT so even if you do get crit you might still live if they hit an immunity or repel or something. That doesn't exist here.
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WHAT THE FUCK I WISH THAT WERE ME FUCK YOU STROHL
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>>498305195
Well, your mission at first is really just to garner the trust of Louis to get in with him so you can steal his curse formula to free the prince and get him going on the path to becoming the king. The game FRAMES it like you're helping another man become king. The way things actually end up going is kinda different.
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>>498305320
You can't really kill the zombies effectively until he enrages them, at which point they hit like a truck.
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People saying read a book read a book okay faggots
What books has a fun cast and the whole "fantasy is actually the far far future" twist?
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>>498305539
I hope a group of cartel or favela thugs invade your home and beat you up and hold you down and rape your family in front of you before peeling you apart piece by piece
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>>498305698
bro your rider of the blade?
your energy ray?
a simple hama?
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>>498305320
ok i'm genuinely struggling with this game but posts like this just confuse me. how would this strategy ever work? the zombies have so much hp that even super effective hama hits do fuck all. like i'm not trying to call you out but are you level 20 or something? mathmatically this doesn't add up unless you leveled like crazy.

also you can't even get the mace that buffs hama damage before zorba because it comes from the same dungeon he is in meaning you'd have to do it 2 days intead of 1.
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>>498305579
The resistances you describe don't tend to exist in SMT til around mid-game most of the time though. I guess I can understand the complaint if you're pretty far into the game and still lacking options for resistances. I wouldn't know, I'm still only in the second town.
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>>498285828
This game isn't medieval.
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are there portrait/asset rips anywhere online?
i just like seeing the character art
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which one?
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>>498304595
Opposite for me.

The lack of good AoE skills and buffs early on is absolutely crippling, especially when trash and bosses two-three shot you like nothing. SMT fans seethe at me over this, but early-game Persona is harder than mainline in some respects, primarily due to the lack good skills on top of MP starvation.
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>>498305698
You can use Hama + Brawler for extra turns and manipulate the turn order so Hulkenberg always gets a Taunt + Block. I don't remember much about the fight because the Huma after was a bigger threat.
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>>498306097
no its all ai generated
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>>498306161
anon bumrush strength in persona games. fuck magic.
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>>498305798
>a simple hama
Does 200 damage which isn't enough even with 3 hits.
Does 550 damage when they are enraged
the best you can hope for basically is only have one summon at a time so he will keep summoning them instead of buffing them.
I used like 10 different damage items and 4 revives.
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>>498305825
You aren't understanding how the boss fight works, which is fine if you're new. It's a pretty common trope for SMT/Persona bosses. The zombies are there for you to chain extra turns off of. You don't actually need to kill them. Just focus Zorba. I used warrior with the fire sword + mage + knight and just spammed jump thrust and fire attacks. On hard too.
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is it just better to make junah a mage? masked dancer seems too reliant on good masks which wont come until way later i imagine
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I'm tempted to buy some of the costume DLC just to swap the elf out of her fuck ugly default outfit.
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>>498304959
I will NOT dodge
I WILL mash the attack button while standing in the big purple aoe indicators
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>>498306196
I just faced that part with >>498305174
this strat. shit was so much easier lmfao. MC and Stahl two hit that shit.

fuck I need to find a way to make hulkenburg more useful, she's so useless to me right now with knight lmao. she's literally a punching bag whore. I thought putting tarukaja on her would make her more useful but feels more worth to just skip and use a synthesis move or another physical attack with MC or Stahl.
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>>498306196
>spoiler
What? he was very easy compared to the necromancer.
I just spammed the knight move that gives weakness to pierce on the heart
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>>498306387
dangerously based
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>>498306267
the zombies also rape your characters so once they enrage you do have to kill them.
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>>498305708
https://youtu.be/OchyYnlHTdo?si=iwZNLXiXFSRdcjwW
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Just finished the cathedral dungeon. How reliable is the option to check for social links with your fairy? If the possibility to start a new link appears, will it already be shown on the map or do I need to do something like walk close to it to find it?
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>>498305174
I already forgot what I did lol, pretty sure it's bunch of reset and bunch of items that generate press turn
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>>498306118
2nd one
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>>498306118
more damage more better
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>>498306534
You're barely done? Christ you're fucking slow.
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>>498299398
I guarantee the JP dialogue is no better for this segment. Japanese people love this shit.
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i'm watching someone play this game and he's turning the whole game off everytime he gets ambushed because the auto saves are so generous. at that point why not play on normal
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>>498305174
>Hulkenburg (you're so fucking useless)
Her synergy that gives a pierce weakness debuff is insane.

Easily carried me through early-game, and still useful in middle.
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What Classes did you unlock for Heismay? I went with Faker and Gunner
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>>498306912
I don't see a point when you can just unga bunga more damage
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All are equal and all live in safety and all are friends deserving of help. Despite that one tribe commits over 50 percent of the crime yet is only 13 percent of the population of the kingdom.
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>>498307138
She unlocks a skill that lowers enemy hit rate and evasion which makes her more useful
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>>498302419
It took three years for both P5 and SMTV to get their better versions. The wait for other Atlus games is even longer than both of those. So if the current record is three fucking years, I think I'm all good to play this now and then maybe play it again in three years.
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>>498307272
eh i just wish she can do something without using two press turn points. i mean tarukaja sure but again i'd rather pass turn and go UNGA BUNGA
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>testing if the "almighty skills crit if it's raining" accesory works in the coliseum (it doesn't)
>forget to unequip it
>advance the story
>fight the human kraken
>it happens to be raining due to story reasons and my party is 4 fakers
>literally spam free megido while critting every turn and getting free turns thanks to faker's roguery
fucker didn't have a chance
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>>498307138
Because it does 500-700 damage, and gives two half-turns upon using it again after the debuff is applied.
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>>498301831
Flopbros it's not looking so good.
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how do you kill these things? even using merchant's money toss + light damage synthesis skill doesn't cut the mustard. am i just meant to not engage with these enemies at all and save them for later in the game?
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Synthesis attacks that strike weakness/crit light up both of the turn icons used for it btw.
For Zorba use the brawler's heavy light synthesis to kill a zombie, then use your remaining turns to hit him, and then he has to waste his turn re-summoning instead of attacking you.

This also means using those synthesis attacks that are like "deal heavy pierce and apply a weakness to pierce" have return value for your initial investment if you then use it again next turn to use/reapply the weakness.
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>>498283169
>archetypal ring
>fortunes grasp
when and where is this? I am way behind I just got my physical copy and am finishing the mourning tower now. I want to power game so bad but it's like day 3.
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>>498302671
Played $8 for mine but it has one month warranty. Good stuff
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>>498301831
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>>498307829
all you need to do is hama spam them, put it on as many characters as you can, fuck their magic stat just spam it
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>>498301831
It saddens me that SMTVV is the lowest when it's better than all 3 Persona games.
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How viable is strength in this game? Or is it all about magic?
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>>498307962
That's between 8 years and like 5 games
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>>498308279
The MC's ultimate skill is apparently physical and strength, but playing it as a strength build kinda sucks and I feel like I am constantly pigeon-holed into using magic.
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>>498308279
Strength is better, but it doesn't hurt to go mixed
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>sunday afternoon eating pizza and playing a jarpig
Havent had this much comfy in a long while
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>>498307962
after 8 years we've gotten
>a multi-platform rerelease
>4 spin-off titles (2 of witch are multiplatform)
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>>498308279
Magic is terrible after early game.
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>>498307829
Anon I did the dungeon on hard while a snadflash was active so i was getting no extra turns and i still managed to do it.
Just spam your strongest shit.
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i miss hulkenburg original design...
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>>498308279
The MC's ultimate skill is physical, but the rest of his job set is hybrid, and all of your early party members are physical leaning. So having him start out as your magic user isn't a bad idea
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>>498308667
Your post is useless and doesn't help anyone.
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>>498308627
no
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>>498308842
OK tourist
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>>498308609
where did u get the pizza from anon
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>>498308814
git gud
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On my way to the tower, Lina and Catherina both said they will drop out of the race. Does that mean I can't get the achievement for winning all the debates anymore?
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I thought that igniters are super duper expensive? How is that a rando recruit can get it?
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>>498308236
looking back when they posted the sales for VV i was more confused, but now im just kinda sad that they felt the need to lump in OG SMTV sales along with SMTVV sales
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is there list of skill sets for each mask?
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i've game-overed at least 10 times trying to get mp back here. what the fuck is wrong with this game, the dogs dont take knockback and theres like 5 of them. im starting to hate this game
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>use powerpyx guide
>choose option 3 for maximum tolerance
>"hide fruit underneath the plate"
>"oh huh the customer didn't like it +2"
YOU FUCKING PRICK FUCK YOU NOW I GOT TO DO THE HUMAN BOSS FIGHT AGAIN FUCK YOU
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>>498309456
>using a guide
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so many obvious personafags getting filtered by this game it's so funny
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who should i hangout with on the way to virga island?!
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>>498309374
I don't get it, I've never felt the need to farm mp back, don't you have items?
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>>498309456
deserved for using a guide
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>>498309557
But why? You can cheese it with Mage MP generation and items.
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COMMANDAH!
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>>498309456
you mean the guide written around storyteller?
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>>498309456
just load your last autosave?
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>>498308893
no
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>>498309612
>don't you have items?
no, do you?
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>>498309456
That’s what happens when you don’t actively engage with gameplay. Sounds like a (you) problem
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>>498309128
They’re a necessary item for warfare in Metaphor’s universe. And the ones they get are pretty limited since all they cast is a low grade fire spell.
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are the persona games anything like this? i am loving this game so far and i only really play the SMT games. I know about the highschool setting and waifushit of persona but does it play similarly to this?
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>>498309854
yeah, plenty
sure, they only recover 20 MP but you don't need to be full MP for most boss fights
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>>498307067
I gave him Commander, it’s quite good on him since he’s fast enough that he can lay out the buffs before anyone else takes their turn.
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>>498309683
this archetype is so cracked with its only weakness being weak to strike attacks
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can galllica get pregnant?
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this is pretty good isn't it? but does it stack?
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>>498309374
bro, your rollslop?
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>>498310364
apparently yes
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>>498306347
You can have her inherit some mage/wizard skills, give her the mage mask you can probably craft and she’s basically got a solid spell list already.
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>>498310174
i like it, plus it fits the mc. i wonder if we have a king archetype
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How brutal is mimic dungeon on rainy days for level 21 party?
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>>498310625
>How brutal is mimic dungeon
number one filter in these threads
> on rainy days
literally impossible
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>>498300210

Someone said in a older thread its widescreen patch thing.
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Any mods yet to fix Hulkenberg? Why is there still no gamebanana page?
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holy fuck i didnt know this cost so much. how would this ever be viable to use?
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>>498310706
very possible
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>>498310537
if you go look at the upper levels in the akademia on the right side all the way to the right/bottom there is an archetype with a crown as its symbol so yeah probably
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>>498309972
Its basically exactly this but its 'one more' instead of press turn, and you sit in one city/town the whole game instead of going on an adventure. Also demon fusion for the MCs personas
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>>498308236

Being on switch does that to sales.
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>>498304207
The tribes are where the racial discrimination is at, phenotypic differences within tribes are basically ignored. Like, the cat girls and dog boys and fox hags and horse tomboys all get along despite being different because they are all Paripus.
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>>498309884
>>498309534
fuck off i'm not playing through the same game TWICE to re-see like 5 cutscenes and make the ending "complete"
>>498309794
it autosaved the moment I went the next day ;-;
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>>498310992
>not having like 5 separate saves your rotate through.
Are you fucks playing an rpg for the first time in your life?
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>>498303125
Try swapping to healer, the bonk attack is very satisfying.
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are elda suppose to be indians?
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>>498310364
it stacks alright
with the skill on four of the same archetype it increases drop rate by 200%
80% when running it on different ones
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>>498306118

First one if you dont cheese with merchant. I actually ran out of money on memorial day when i bought some upgrades.
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>>498311145
I WAS GOING TO AFTER THE FIRST DAY I DIDNT EXPECT THE GUIDE TO FUCK ME WITHIN THE FIRST FUCKING DAY YOU CAN DO SHIT
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>>498310992
>surely hide the fruit under the plate is the right answer
>because they’ll tolerate my character being a fucking retard who can’t accomplish simple tasks
Never mind, you’re correct
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>>498311285
If you don't cheese with merchant you don't need that weapon at all.
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>>498307067

Merchant with steal. Heisgoy
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>>498311357
IDK WHAT TYPE OF LOGIC THIS GAME IS IN WHY THE FUCK IS THE GUIDE SAYING OPTION 3?????
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>>498311169
no they're jews
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>necromancer
>goblins
>mimics
what will filter brainlets next?
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>>498311145
Ive been doing this for so long but i NEVER load an old save. Modern jarpigs make shit too hard to miss now
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>>498311169
no they're italians
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>>498307829

Toss money once, then your strongest holy type duo attacks.
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>make persona 6
>add fantasy spin on it and incorporate press-turn gameplay to it
>goty
It was really that easy?
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>>498311638
the arena fights, especially the ones that put you in solo battles. I hit a level wall though and will have to come back and beat the last few silver tier battles later
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Did the giant baby head have a weakness? I went in there with no pierce and killed it anyway, but that was the only damage type i couldnt try
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do we have a percentage on these ones?
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>>498311929
If they added Etrian Odyssey sized dungeons with FOEs it would have been kino
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>>498309992

Real gamers dont cheese with merchant
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>>498311610
Aren't Rhoags the jews?
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>>498312207
No, theyre just old people
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>>498311929
gameplay isnt really why these games are popular. they are just comfy kino.
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>>498310835

Just use it if you have spare mana after a dungeon i guess for a bonus
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Who the fuck designed these Matador tier evasion fights early with no Dekaja/Dekunda available?
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>>498311507
>common sense is some sort of logic puzzle
Oh no…anonbros…
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>>498312142
Magic Seeker with fire dodge and a physical ability feels so awesome. I bet this is kinda how The Prince feels like too.
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>>498312142
I had pierce dodge for an arena fight and he dodged about 1 in 3 attacks on average, so i guess maybe around 30%?
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>>498312182
EO with this game's combat system and progression would unironically be the best jrpg ever created
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>>498312446
YOU NEVER FUCKING KNOw
>glass him
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>>498312456
Does seeker lineage get more than 2 inheritance abilities early, or do they unlock late game
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>>498311998
The eyes are weak to pierce, but the body isn't
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>>498312515
>trying this hard to defend being a dingleberry
Weird hill to die on
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>>498311169
Why are people still trying to make the races 1:1 metaphors (heh) of actual races? The primary traits of the various races are:

Bird wings and condescending attitude
Doubled lifespan and cultural facial tattoos
Poor furries
Way stronger than average physically and massive hairy ears
Isolationist religious minority with a literal third eye spirit sight
Horny people associated with the royal family line
Uguu anime eyes and colorful hair, known for being two faced but talented
Prudent yet indecisive little bat folk that are slow to trust others and stick to themselves
Near extinct minority that got genocided because the dominant religion says they are the antichrist

These clearly aren’t supposed to be exact equivalents.
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i want to ... gallica
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>>498312968
the Nidia creep me the fuck out, they all seem super shady and evil with those huge blue sapphire eyes
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they definitely couldve put this game on switch if they really tried...
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>>498313117
They do all seem to be charlatans, too. Their candidate is a two faced scumbag who is nice in public but if you ever find him on the street as an NPC he badmouths you, Culculus (I forget his actual name) is a swindler by trade and Junah is obviously doing it for the right reasons, but she’s a spy using her role as a singer to charm people so she can accomplish her mission.
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>>498312968
>Isolationist religious minority with a literal third eye spirit sight
the mustari feel pretty muslim to me
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I saw a review that said this is Persona, but medieval fantasy and with the gay romance replaced with political intrigue. Is this an accurate assessment?
My favorite game in the Atlus catalogue is SMT3: Nocturne, will I like this?
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lol
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I need the rare drops from the skeleton commanders or whatever (the upgraded version) before I leave the store room but they don't seem to respawn?
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>>498313607
there's a boss fight that's a reference to Nocturne's Ongyo-ki fight (same gimmick)
also some of the physical classes use HP instead of MP for skills
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>>498313593
I guess the headpieces they wear would support that too when I think about it. But the way they are treated as backwards pagans living primitive lives and worshipping a polytheistic pantheon of loosely defined beings has some Native American/aboriginal vibes too.
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Where can you go to do debates and raise your standing for the kings race?
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>>498314221
Near the voting rocks in each city.
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>>498313679
>I like series for men who do manly things
It's probably safe to assume that think something generic action or battle shounen is the pinnacle of Japanese media.
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So where can I find this "wandering student" near the grand cathedral?
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>>498313912
Neat. I didn't realize there was a demo so I guess I'll just play that and see how I feel about it.
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She
Now
A new pow
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>>498307962
The much more important comparison is that P5's PC port was a couple years after Royal had come out
Obviously this game is not P5 levels of popular, but holy fuck do both of these games make P3 look like a complete joke
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Is Dragoon any good? I was leaning Warlock because he looks awesome, but I was thinking of making Will another physical based attacker outside of melee.
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>>498313593
>isolationist
Islam is a militaristic and conquering religion, retard.
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This OP job FUCKS Junah while Louis WATCHES Click Here For More
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>>498315003
I thought the P3 remake was supposed to be one of the games produced on a budget, but the cutscenes, cg and animated, look much better to me than Metaphor's. The latter is so stiff at times.
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>>498314001
Since it is a Japanese game, I think the main inspiration would be old Shintoism (as opposed to State Shintoism).
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Can I refight gargoyles somewhere? I didn't get their rare drops.
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UMI DA
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>>498315189
It is like he was exactly wrong. Everything he mentioned is what allowed the game to capture the attention of multiple audiences.
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Metaphor might climb up the ranks but I dunno. I'm not really feeling it and the pacing of the story seems a little abrupt to the point of taking me out of the experience.
I only played OG Catherine.
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so is this like a cheaper tetra/makara break?
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You better run Elda or someone will kill you.
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I've been pumping my MC's magic stat as the game really pushes you toward using Mage on him early on, but I just learned that he gets a special Seeker job that is more physical/hybrid later on. Should I start over and spec him into Strength or more of a hybrid build? I'm only 10 hours in, but have invested like 25 points into Magic.
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it's really annoying how a lot of these early game bosses already don't have weaknesses
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【New Information】
【Metaphor: ReFantazio】

Atlus is planning on creating the next step in the Metaphor franchise.

A Metaphor dancing spin-off has started development.

Metaphor: ReFantazio Ultimate edition, A $70 re-release, will contain a boss fight of Joker from Persona 5.
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>>498316223
Yeah, that's bothering me, too. I just finished the Necromancer dungeon and the fact that both the Necromancer and the Human boss fights were resistant to fire, ice, and lightning, rendering my Mage useless. Had to restart the fights with a different team build. What's the point of having a class designed around exploiting enemy weaknesses with 3 different elements if you're going to make enemies resistant to all 3 of them?
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>>498316201
You can go where you want to go. Be who you want to be. Change the way you live. Try to be positive.
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>>498309001
The Pan
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>>498316201
>Class system! You can make your characters whoever you want them to be!
>Just kidding, they all get special classes designed specifically for them that shoehorn them into a single playstyle.
Bit irksome.
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>>498313294
>last version
Anon...
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does magic and ranged attacks also lose potency when you go to the backrow?
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>>498316704
>>498316201
It really does feel like the game is railroading you into beating stuff the intentioned way instead of letting you do your own thing

but anyways I just go full physical and punch things to death. every
single
smt
game
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where can I find this student?
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lol
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>>498316918
The tutorial prompt for rows just said it was melee attacks it made weaker.
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Are the cathedral enemies respawned when you go back for sidequests? I need to farm some items I didn't drop the first go around.
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>>498316918
no
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why didn't we get a japanese anime opening intro tho?
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when you see it
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how is hulk brawler?
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>try storyteller to see how much of a buff it was to drops
Holy shit this is pretty much just cheat mode
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>>498317391
>Piggytron
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considering the nature of the story.

why didn't they just make this the Turn A of all Atlus games?
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>>498316849
Well, I'm not seeing more nodes on the tree. If there's another version later, great, but it doesn't change my point, this shit looks underwhelming as fuck and worse than the two previous stages.
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>>498317060
>>498317338
what about synthesis attacks? does only the main guy matter?
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>>498317596
I mean who knows, they still might double back on that. Its going to be hard to justify MUH COLLECTIVE UNCONSCIOUSNESS and other concepts though
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>>498313294
Youre retarded. Soul Hacker is one of the coolest designs in the game, it definitely looks better than Magic Seeker and its retarded nose
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>>498317391
Kaneshiro-sama....
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Hard players that didn't reset difficulty, or played the demo, out of curiousity, how far are you into the game by now?
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>>498317603
Spoilers:

https://www.rpgsite.net/guide/16437-metaphor-refantazio-best-stats-archetype-builds
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>>498317314
>>498315316

Pls respond
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>>498317780
>Youre retarded. Soul Hacker is one of the coolest designs in the game
No, I'm fine, you're just a result of sub-human inbreeding. Soul hacker looks like a mix between african and and native american kites. Anyone that likes that design is either trolling or genuinely so inbred that his family has no branches on the way up for multiple generations.
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>>498318013
Just left the second city, almost 40 hours in
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>>498318080
good argument. i concede.
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>>498318013
did the 4th city main dungeon on the first day, just unlocked eupha, 40 hours in, i spent some time grinding the red crystal in the forsaken tower and the one in the main dungeon from the 4th city.
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keep telling yourself that
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I'm the boring player who won't deviate from the characters primary archetype tree unless the next stage requires another.
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Gunner - Phys
Sniper - Phys
Dragoon - Elemental magic

WHAT THE FUCK GAME
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>>498318431
Neuras is based he aint a nigger he a nigga
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>>498318669
aww hell nah
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Dear Modders,
please make a mod that replaces all instances of brawler with the monk to align with the japanese voiceovers
Signed,
The metaphor communtiy
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how many cities/main dungeons are there i just want a number
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There's a way to fix the ingame audio? I don't want to download shit like FxSound like some websites are recommending.
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>>498318431
why does mf look like a one piece character?
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chillin'
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>>498318835
69
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>>498316704
I've never really felt the need to go that crazy with custimization anyway. Like demons in SMT are always going to be suited for certain kinds of playstyles so not being able to build a physical character like a mage isn't something I care about. It's more about being able to fine tune that specialization in ways I want to be more effective like with certain skill combos and passives. Persona is really lacking in that regard.
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>>498318865
whats there to fix?
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Why loot icon.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gOVOPmMaJHo
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I'm starting my Metaphor journey tonight. Any tips aside from the obvious or "sit on the bench for 1 wisdom" or whatever else (which I've seen all of because I'm an OCD faggot who watches "20 THINGS YOU NEED TO KNOW BEFORE YOU START THIS GAME" videos at my own potential detriment)?
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>>498318013
I'm at 40 hours including demo time and in the middle of the port city questline.I'm taking a break for now.
As expected the game gets a lot more manageable once you get access to better everything (classes, skills, items, quest rewards). I did in fact manage the mimic dungeon on a sandstorm day but it was a shitshow and I have no idea if the bonus EXP is worth the trouble. Hint: use the money throw skill to keep them from acting and just fucking nuke the mimics with the mage's Meteophor.
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>>498319659
It's a "item of interest" icon, they reuse it for a lot of different things. The green orbs tend to go away after being clicked once though, so the portraits remaining lit up feel like a bug.
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>>498318013
Just got out of the worm anus. MP management and the damage enemies do are the biggest concerns so far.
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>>498318780
are you using reshade? why is your game seem darker than mine?
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>>498318013
just finishing my free days after the 2nd story dungeon which was waaaay shorter than the first
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>>498319923
yes
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>>498319770
>dont cook until you get mariah to rank 4 for speed cooking.
>don't bother grinding early, there are very clear areas the devs want for you to grind in, where they drop 2 or 3 red crystals in a large room.
>once you can kill an enemy type in the overworld, change the mc into the thief archtype and check if the drop is worth farming, those green slimes drop a defense reduction item pretty early.
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>>498308236
SMTV is garbage though
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>>498319770
Try not to be an OCD faggot because this (and Persona) will drive you mad with the tons of random missable NPc chatter alone, not to mention many activities are redundant (i. e. read a book to raise your virtue stats or talk to NPCs for the same effect).
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>>498320035
cute monke elf
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>>498318013
I'm at the fourth dungeon around 36 hours in
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>>498316704
i guess its moreso to promote learning abilities from other archetypes that benefit their main. one of the tier 3 mage archetypes has hyper (concentrate) so i imagine any magic caster will want that. idk who has charge, probably berserker
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>>498319770
Don't take any time progression action until you've talked to everyone so you can prioritise.
Also it should be more obvious but you're really intended to do the cathedral dungeon before anything else even though you have like 10 days to do it.
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>>498319349
This is what im saying, pepple were complaining about the Ultimate archetypes but realistically the character was always going to be designed around the Archetype they awakened. The fun part is messing around with skill inheritance and synthesis setups
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>>498318013
Hard mode player, no demo, 21 hours in, just had the first trial in the port city and did all the side requests and bounties + locations. Only did a bit of farming (like 2 hours) in the goblin dungeon with merchant for money and exp.
Im really surprised at the 40 hour answers. Wtf have you guys been doing?
Is it the fact that I farmed to be pretty much always above the enemy level in dungeons so what took you hours took me 20 minutes of overworld clicking?
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>>498320272
Wrong.
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>>498320301
Yeah its berserker, though Concentrate and Charge are actually p bad in this game imo.
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>>498319770
you can recover all your mp for free by equipping mage and farming low level mobs in an early part of the dungeon
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>>498320604
Yes if you don't overlevel dungeons they take a good long time.
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>>498319486
Voices are too low.
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>>498318865
Reduce the other audio volumes to like half of the voices, then crank up your system volume
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>>498320604
pretty much, also, i read everything and talk with every npc, in each town there are npcs that give you items or an unmarked request, like the old man in the 3rd town that gives you 5000 cash to write him a letter
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Eupha is perfect bros
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english or japanese?
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>>498320784
how does fxsound fix that?
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>there are probably deviants in this world who fuck eugief women
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>>498320945
Japanese with spanish text, spanish Gallica is better than in english.
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>>498320604
some dungeons are long, like 5+ hours to do everything, even when you can kill all but 2 enemies in the overworld
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Rank 7 Maria requires level 4 tolerance God dammit that's gonna take a while should've known that something as good as her rank 7 cooking ability wouldn't be so readily attainable but it's still disappointing how much time that's going to take to grind
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>>498320604
here's your bait reply
2h of goblin farming does jackshit on hard and certainly don't overlvl a dungeon. t. did far more
at 'worst' minotaur 2.0, red mimic 2.0, the bro with his rank 7 quest and several other shit put you back in places real quick.

if anything you should have said you did tower farming cause passing on that is retarded. pic related sub 3min
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>>498315760
Holy shit taste
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>overworld mp recovery
>access to 3 different elements
>mp recovery passives up the ass
>magic damage passives
>minmaxed stat distribution
why is the mage line of archetypes so privileged?
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>>498321304
for example i have 2 saves one in 8/10 at 32 hours and one at 8/20 at 40
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So how many main story dungeons the games has in total
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>>498318013
About to one day the Martira dungeon at 30 hours played but I've done nearly every bit of side content plus some goblin forest dungeon farming for job xp and money
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>first Neuras
>then Heismay
>now Bardon (I was scared that he was involved with the culprit)
I kneel to all these non-teenaged and highly positive male characters.
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Man this story is literally just persona 5 but fantasy. The oppression, the rise to heroism, the downfall, the redemption, it's all going at the same beat.
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This game is going to be pretty short by Atlus standards right? I noticed I'm pretty much 40% done after the second town.
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I legit got teary eyes when doing Maria social link
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>>498321395
access to 3 elements isnt exactly rare, like half the classes in the game do
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>>498321697
The game has about 7 main story dungeons 1 short of the 8 that vanilla p5 had
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>>498318013
Just finished second city, going to bilehaven or whatever. 30 hours but with roughly 4 hours of idling.
However I'm end of year peak is about to start for work so I probably won't beat till december.
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>>498319770
Put all your stat level ups in En, have everyone as Mage in the goblin dungeon, sell all equipment that requires purification
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p5 royal was unironically too long so if this is a little shorter id be happy.
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What are your preferred activities? For me it's reading books on the runner and hanging out with the storytellers and m*stari in town.
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i wonder how much leniency you have to clean up slinks and stuff near the end. feels like it shouldn't be TOO strict.
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>>498319770
There's a little mascot dude who gives you gameplay tips in dungeons, so here's a big one ahead of time: equipped weapons influence your archetype skills so you should keep them up to speed just like armor.
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Junah is cue, right?
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>>498322079
double fist jerking off strohl and basilio in the gauntlet runner
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>>498322190
persona s-links are pretty much impossible to 100% on your first playthrough until they release the enhanced version of the game with an extra month of usable time
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>>498322280
The eyes are too distracting
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>>498322280
I love girls with fluffy hair.
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>>498322436
p5's werent that bad if you found out about chihaya
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>>498322305
Eupha please
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>>498320035
Eiselin is my wife. I love her. I love Hulkenberg or Hulkie-chan as I call her. She is literally perfect and lovely. I love this steadfast dork. I love her exactly how she is and she doesn't need to change but one day there will be an entirely tasteful mod that restores her incredibly petite and small but still defined ass and sends current censored by Atlus Hulkenberg for a run for her money. We will have what was promised and she will only become even more perfect.

>>498322280
Honestly yes I think she's cute I don't mind this ongoing recurrent Chihaya-esque fivehead/scarfhead archetype and her 60s style is cute too. Her hair and that fan is evocative of a butterfly. I love the "60s" style in this game.
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Oh my god I NEED to fuck that short catboy by Louis's side.
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>>498321371
>bait reply
By Goblin dungeon I meant the field with the goblin mages with the black hoods, I spent around 2 hours there.
My actual playtime is 21 hours on steam, but its 19 hours on file, I fucked up once and had to reset to an earlier save once but rest of it is afk on main menu
>tower farming
Dont even know what the tower is
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>>498322561
i consider that part of the challenge because anyone will just look at her giant forehead and go "yeah... maybe later"
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>>498322436
lol on royal I had that entire extra month with nothing to do because I finished all social links with exception of kasumi and goro by the end of the base game
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>>498312614
they unlock with social bonds I think
so remember to fulfil More's requests
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Surely I'm not the only one who feels that her social link starts out like a sugar mama?
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>>498322771
>claims to have done everything
>skipped a dungeon
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>>498322841
>AI slop
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>>498322841
You are offering a service.
Just a little bit of free trade.
Commies and Sancticucks wont understand.
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>>498322771
a side req dungeon from the shit you said did lmao
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>>498322280
Used goods.
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>>498303149
>Are you doing dungeons in one day?
Yes.
>How much degeneracy are you engaging in (ie mp farming with mage, merchant money grinding on crystals etc)
None.
>How much exp grinding are you doing?
I grinded a bit in the Cathedral to get to level 15 because Zorba was bullying me but other than that I haven't grinded and have avoided some encounters.
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>>498321697
It's shorter, but it also doesn't have repetitive school filler. The sidequest dungeons are also a nice change of pace from Mementos or Tartarus, even if they're small and still reused assets.
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Honestly one of the more effective story beats IMO is how tense it gets when you're in the port town and have to enter Louis' service.
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>>498323135
Is the port town the third city or second one
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God I love Fabienne
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>>498323230
3rd
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>louis is wrong because... he killed le hecking king!!
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so how long is it actually? like 60 hours? i'm on 30 and just finished the second "arc"
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>>498283858
You still get 100% fucked when ambushed even if you restart 10+ times, so I'm fine with it. They don't let you save everywhere either, so you still have to deal with some consequences.
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>>498323319
Yeah pretty much. It's fairly short for a Not-Persona Persona game.
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>>498323319
If you count each big dungeon an arc there's 7 in total
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>>498323010
>>498322958
the tower unlocks in brilehaven, and 7/22 is when you have just arrived there and are still locked into story shit after the head presentation, retardos...
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>>498322841
>childless
>single
>career woman
>extremely bitter
>has a pet

checks out
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So, the queen of oceana is the bald dude with the long nose? Is that's suppose to be a woman?
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>>498322280
she was attractive in her slutty dress. this? no.
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>>498321721
Heismay, Brigitta and Alonzo are also pretty rough
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60 hours seems impossible to me unless the game just ends after bilehaven. it took me 32 hours to move on from the 2nd city.
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>>498323543
>start Alonzo
>oh cool this is Persona 5 stuff, anarchic archetype, stealing hearts, Trickster etc.
>one (1) scene later
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"Common" drop my ass, been killing these forever and they don't drop their stupid hat.
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>>498323552
There's a lot of stuff after brilehaven
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'member to take a shit on Idlesdays, anons
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>>498323437
>passed the first trial
>pre posting date post
>the trial is one of the 3 continents you tour for, and trial 1 is passing the head shit while being in the top 20, so after the Ship, and unlocking all of the side dungeons
>lvl 29, all side quests, rank 10 commander, heh sure bud
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im so lucky to have such a cute girl accompanying me on my journey
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>>498318013
Level 35 or so, in an island temple.
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>>498288885
The flamesday watersday stuff is just japanese days. Monday is the day of moon, tuesday is the day of fire, stuff like that. Meanwhile months are just called month 1, month 2 in japanese. I agree they should at least use latin numbers for everything instead of having julius and august there for no reason.
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I just want him to be happy
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>>498323793
This fanart is not on model
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Complete lack of sex appeal.
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Is there a way to stun weak enemies without killing them?
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>>498322436
In golden, I've finished everything before 24 december. Unless the fortune telling didn't exist in vanilla.
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>>498324376
He treats MC as if he was his son too. The boss fight where he won't KO the MC hits bit different when you have all the context
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>>498318080
You'd know Soul Hackers (1997) has Native American influence through Nemissa and Kinap’s role but your faggot secondary ass hasn't played a megaten game prior to Persona 4.
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>>498324575
i like her
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>>498324575
Her sex appeal is her beautiful face, eyes, ears, and GOD TIER FIERY RED HIME CUT. I AM A HIMESEXUAL.

I don't care if she's a sticc. Hulkenberg is S T I C C and that's alright.
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>>498324853
W hulkenbro
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>>498318080
>>498324668
>talking shit about/defending Soul Hacker's design
Soul Hackers (1997) is absolute kino. Let me see a picture of what Soul Hacker looks like in game please.
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I just hit the last month. Are they fucking serious about telling me to go back to the towers. I would have fucking waited if I knew that.
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>>498324639
You mean royal?, and on vanilla p5 I finished everything before the 24th as well
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>>498316704
They did the right thing.
I hate xenoblade 3's endgame because everyone is basically the same character gameplaywise except the MC. Sure, you still divide them into roles, but it doesn't change much.
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he's so cool...
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>>498324575
Only underage faggots care about that.
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The game gives you nigh-infinite money even without Merchant abuse and SP recovery isn't much of an issue past the Cathedral anyway, so neither of these things are a big deal.
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Can I trade the annoying singer for the big dog brother?
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>>498325058
No, I was talking about P4, both ends during christmas eve.
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>>498324575
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>>498324575
They nerfed her ass during later development but I don't care. I love Hulkenberg. She's so sexy. And those ankle boots are stylish and PURE sex. Also the back shot of her outstretched arm and her long long hair in the equipment menu for armor is... so aesthetic. So good. So incredible. I must sniff her hair.
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>>498325110
I just like smacking things in the overworld. It's oddly relaxing
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>>498325056
How did you reach there so fast?
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>>498325110
What difficulty are you playing at? I'm on hard and I run out of SP because normal attacks do shit. I think hardmode halves resorce gain though.
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>>498325073
fucking kill yourself comparing this game to xenoblade 3
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>>498325076
agree
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>>498325245
Oh I see p4 is easy to do the all social links, p5 too if we're being honest
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Do you get anything new for fighting the ??? Human boss in Kriegante Castle a second time if you've beat it once in the room before?
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>>498325285
I spent the weekend no lifing it. I didn't skip anything. The temple though sucked. It took me like 4 hours on hard to get through.
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>>498325425
kampai...
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>>498324651

True, maybe thats why i like him so much. For my own father i was always the second most important son after the bottle.
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>>498325280
I enjoy the diet Dark Souls too.
>>498325356
Hard, but phys MC alleviates SP issues significantly.
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>>498325356
What are you going to do if he doesn't stop. piss and shit yourself?
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>>498320683
They've been pushing Charge/Concentrate as moves that you save up for burst turns instead of stuff you spam for the longest while.
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>>498325478
No. It's a waste of time. Vitality essence isn't worth it.

>>498325571
I fucked up and went magic. I like it. Summoner is great and steal mp with thief is pretty strong with magic focus but the rest of the team suffers. The real issue is that some of the good attacks cost a lot of mp. Against hard shit I find myself using general's formation shifts for quick damage.
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>>498324575
she looks nice with the knight armor
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>>498325524
By "temple" you mean dragon temple?
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>>498324651
ahhh, so that's why there was no save point. I wasted my items for nothing
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>>498325541
>>498325425
>literally everyone thought this bat-cat nigga was gonna be the obnoxious gay Teddie/Morgana tier mascot
>he's seemingly some fucking based samurai ninja or some shit with assassin skills
wild
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>>498325824
Yes. I died a lot though. I like to be under leveled for a challenge and a number of enemies on hard if you get caught out will just destroy you first turn.
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>>498326019
He's a badass.
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>>498326019
he mogs the shit out of all the obnoxious mascot characters everyone benches immediately
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>>498325773
I want to be femdommed by her and Hulkenberg at the same time. Hulkenberg can ride my cock raw while she sits on my face and wiggles and they occasionally interlock fingers and kiss with tongue.
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How did they not see just how exploitable the merchant's passive is? Just dip in and out the desert and whack hyena packs for infinite dosh.
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>>498325425
This entire arc was wild. I get why they paid yoko taro to shill this thing.
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>>498326087
>admitting to browsing reddit
Go back.
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>>498326087
Well, if he finds some peace with this game, that is fine. I only find ironic how it is more likely that his friends lead or enabled him into NOT figuring out who he really is. At least he has a social support network, but now he should be able to deal with reality (as opposed to fantasy manifested as delusion).
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>>498326181
Some these S.Links are kind of predictable some of them are sad. Bridgette's dog is just missing (probably murdered) and it's just never brought up again.
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>>498326229
Whats wrong with reddit?
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>>498325773
Why she wasn't playable?
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>>498326553
that dog got murked bro
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>>498325049
here anon >>498313294
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What is the theme called when you fight people on the gauntlet runner?
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>>498326564
>t. redditor
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>>498326181
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>>498326718
>MY SWORD IS A TOOL OF JUSTICE
>... BUT THIS ISN'T MY SWORD
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>>498326640
I guess I was being hopeful. She said he was missing and taken I was hoping that went she was going to burn the village that her dog wasn't dead. She didn't explicitly say it.
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liking the game a lot but the slinks are pretty mediocre so far. a lot of the same themes being repeated too.
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>>498325237
you dont have to trade, its a 2 for 1 special :)
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>>498326847
Come to the dark side, start skipping everything for the grueling RPG gameplay.
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>>498326847
really?
I think they are each way more distinct from each other so far
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Looking at maria, I wonder if they thought about killing dojima some time during development. That would be too cruel.
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>>498326834
not much point keeping it alive when the entire point of taking it was to hurt her
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>>498326602
ass too big
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The social links are worse the P3 FES
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did the full version on pc actually add a motion blur filter or do I seriously need a mod to remove it?
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>>498327104
p3 had some of the best slinks in the series so that's ok
the dying young man always tears me up
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>>498327104
Fes has great links. I wish the game had more links but I hate the grind. I'm glad they didn't repeat the haru problem where we had absolutely bare bones interacts with the last party member before we get them.
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>>498327207
Same deal with p3r, probably ported by the same team
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>>498327049
funny you should mention...
Dojima was the OG killer, there's still his "evil" chathead concept art if you google it
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I'm starting to remember why I hate the calendar system and all non-static events tied to it
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Fucking finally, holy shit
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Mage/Wizard seems so good for MC but it's so limited by slow slink progression.
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>Get to the dragon temple, Etrian odyssey music starts playing and FOE gimmick is in the dungeon
This game really is an Atlus love letter huh...
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>>498327582
You have other magic classes. That you'll use late game before getting the last wizard classes. Healer for hama and heal, thief's mudo and steal abilities, eventually you get masked dancer which is fine but why does if force you to waste a fucking accessory slot, and summoner which is a busted class.
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>>498327582
It's somewhat less limited than the Phys side of things, honestly. Phys doesn't get access to Medium attacks until far after Mage already had access to all of them except Hamaon. In other words Phys is just as limited (though it still kicks tons of ass).
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are stat growths on level up influenced by the current archetype equipped (for party members)
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>>498327806
>This game really is an Atlus love letter huh...
Except for the class system they got from FF5.
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Holy shit!
Catherina is outright fighting for her race.
How is this ethnocentrist aittude even allowed?!
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>>498327869
It depends on your friendship with Strohl. His second upgrade gives you access to heavy slash. You can also level his s-link and Hul's s-link much faster.

>>498328017
Stat growths are flat. You get one random one and one you choose per level. Your final stats depend on your stats and the archetypes.
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Lol so Archtypes are actually, literally, personas. Absolute cinema.
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>>498328334
I really doubt you're getting Samurai before you're getting Wizard/Thief, but hey, maybe it's possible.
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>>498328334
i meant for party members
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>>498327463
congrats
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>>498328345
>5min after studying Jung
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>>498326175
Yes cause even with discounts shit is expensive in this game, especially the mask and vessels
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Are paripus supposed to be this dumb and impulsive or is she particularly dumb and impulsive?
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>>498324575
Made her a stick with broad shoulders and gave her a hideous name.
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>>498328687
all i did was play this game for 50 hours for the grand reveal
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>>498328432
Sword Master is actually really strong though. It's expensive but you get heavy slash AOEs. Magic knight's abilities to give something a weakness that can chain into the same attack is also pretty insane.

>>498328557
For party members it depends on their base archetypes. Strohl will focus on strength. Hulkenberg on end.
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>>498326181
I just finished the 2nd arc. Is the 3rd one just as good?
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I love this retard
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>>498328981
>>498328849
I am sure there is at least one intelligent furry, right?
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is there special weather in the grand trad region? trying to decide on the order i wanna do things in the 4th city
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>>498328914
>For party members it depends on their base archetypes. Strohl will focus on strength. Hulkenberg on end.
thats not what im asking. if strohl levels up but i have him as a mage, is he going to get more mag increases?
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>>498328904
Retard. What I'm saying is if you had any knowledge of personas and archetypes in the real world you'd have known that from the minute you saw them use the term Archetypes in this game
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>>498327463
its literally worse
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>>498328914
Yeah fair enough, Magic Knight has the medium Pierce too.
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>>498329206
ok.
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>>498329147
No. It depends on what their main archetype is. Strohl will always be a shitty mage.
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Spoilers below, I finished the 1st dungeon but haven't left the new town to hunt Heismay yet
I'm amazed at Strohl's plot to go undercover with Louis' group. I just chose to help out Glodell against the monk and the FUCKING MAIN BAD GUY rides down on his flying runner to meet me!
I don't play a lot of jrpgs, but this is new ground. Going deep undercover like this in the main villains group is a great plot point and I can't wait to play more.
Also Nueras is incredible. I feel like he's been around as my bro from the beginning, even though he was only introduced like an hour ago.
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2 complaints about the combat so far
>you're frontloaded with STR members so it feels like you're forced to a MAG fag
>you can't switch archetypes in battle so you're kinda fucked sometimes and there's no way you could have known; why don't they let you switch at the cost of a turn?
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>>498329598
>you can't switch archetypes in battle so you're kinda fucked sometimes and there's no way you could have known; why don't they let you switch at the cost of a turn?
To encourage party-building.
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>>498326705
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dkn5Mba71gk&list=OLAK5uy_kT8go1ScWljmvHOjpzywgsnV1fI036Ovg&index=31
I can't read Japanese so I don't know the english name for the theme
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>>498317391
Nice Butereba reference. Underrated anime.
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>>498329679
why do strohl and hulk seem to have more focus than the other party members?
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Gunner also gets a Heavy Pierce at 20, back-row only but damn. Phys eats good.
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junahs portrait is really hard to look at
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>>498329764
hulk was the first character conceived for this project so i guess it makes sense. strohl who knows. spoiler reasons maybe?
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>>498329675
ok but it's still bullshit when you get caught in a scripted story battle or while on the road in the runner and you had archetypes set for farming or whatever.
I guess it's something I have to keep in mind from now on
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>>498329764
First party members to join and most people probably won't even play the game long enough to get a 5th party member.
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>>498329982
How is that BS when you literally see the runner on the map before you go anywhere
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>>498329450
Most if not all jrpgs have better writing and plots than western games.
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>>498329598
>forced to a MAG fag
I did that, too. Focused on the Magic Stat and chose "I've got a sharp mind" with Klinger at the beginning. I think I'll start to level up Strength now. I was kinda useless in the Human boss fight after Zorba.
>there's no way you could have known
I think the informants cover that. They tell you the weaknesses and stuff. Even people in the Minotaur dungeon said "Goblin hate mage and healer units" to warn you.
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>>498329764
Strohl is the sidekick bro character in metaphor
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>>498330058
not those, I meant getting attacked in the middle of the night at a campsite or when random enemies attack the ship. pure RNG.
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>>498329982
If you make good use of inherits, cover your bases and supplement with items when appropriate, you can generally handle everything with one solid party. Depending on your damage profile you may indeed have to swap but it shouldn't be that frequent; most DPS will have multiple elements to deal damage with.
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>>498329764
>>498329945
I'm pretty sure there are a bunch of things in Metaphor that are a reaction to P5's reception. It seems like they didn't want a repeat of how anne, yusuke just don't matter after the first act.

>>498330071
The prince's stats are so high that as a fellow Mag player, I was still doing like 4k with his synthesis abilities. The prince gets magic abilities though.
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It feels pretty great to have a Persona style game with an adult cast. It’s refreshing to have characters that already have some story and history to them when they join your party rather than just getting started in life.
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is there actually no romance? like none?
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>>498330176
They don't tell you this but you can run away from those.
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>>498330328
I wish it was even more adult tbqh. I want that guard captain from the 2nd town to join (yeah I know there's overlap)
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Gallicafags, she can't be with a NEET or she'll literally die from boredom
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>>498330328
>persona with adult cast
If metaphor was persona 6 taking place in school, strohl and hulk would just be your classmate.
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>>498330573
Hulk doesn't work as a classmate. Neither do half the party members. The issue isn't their age but experience because they aren't limited to classrooms.
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>>498330369
Junah and Eupha both have the hots for the protag eventually if you do their follower events and Eupha even confesses explicitly. Gallica is cute and you can tease her and she’ll blush and stuff. You never get to choose a romance path vs a non romance path. You do get some “pick your favorite” moments where you can go on mini dates.
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>>498330573
>Hulk was a long serving royal knight
>Heismay is an old man grieving his dead son
>the runner pilot is a dandy old man
These characters don’t really work as 18 or under.
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Why is she such a dork?
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Went out on a quest expedition after paying to see the future weather. Took longer than expected and when I got there it was non stop rain. I think I'm too far behind everyone else now, don't spoil me silly anons uwu
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Kek I just realized the whole plot is basically November election but with more candidates
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>>498331251
The idea of Hulk butchering monsters to eat raw while singing one of Junah’s emotional ballads to herself is pretty funny to me.
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I have fucked up my run, thought i was supposed to end up in the tower in clear skies but it was storm. i cant defeat the mimics without extra press turns from holy skills and dont want to skip all of them, no to mention there are probably even more difficult enemies ahead.

Gotta waste 1 day for camping and hopefully reset weather.
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>>498331368
americans try not to make everything about american politics challenge (impossible)
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>>498331368
>but with more candidates
that is how real (or less fake) elections are supposed to be, murrican-chama
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>>498330965
Eupha is canon, Junah is for my boy Basilio
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>>498331472
Junah is a lewd woman who is not to be trusted.
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why would you ever use anything other than prince persona after you obtain it?
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>>498331648
Thats why we give her to the dog!
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>"Metaphor: ReFantazio - Demo Unlocker"
>A user (who wished to stay anonymous) informed me about a way to play the "full version" using the unprotected demo version of the game. Instead of focusing efforts on the game executable, make some modifications to base.cpk and now you can progress past the 15th day - the point at which you are usually stopped in the demo.
>When you load up the game, you will still see the text telling you that you are playing the demo version. However you can continue playing after the demo would usually end. The title screen shows the same as if you have the full version.
>Please note that there is no guarantee that you can finish the game - just that the normal restrictions of the demo are lifted. It is not recommended to make repacks or portable releases based on this method until it is confirmed that you can finish the game.
>Download the files linked below and replace them in your "steamapps\common\Metaphor ReFantazio Demo" folder. If you want to play cracked then download the files below as well as the linked crack.
source: cs.rin.ru
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>>498331425
Here's a spoiler. The end game asks you to come back to the towers.
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So do picking things the bond people like help ranking up faster or is it only for Mag?
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Bottling and selling hulkenberg's bathwater
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>>498331779
The demo is only 23 gigs so it's probably just the first arc. Which is what the demo should have been.
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>>498330965
euchrona has fallen billions must become humans
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>>498331940
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>>498331472
Gallica is canon. You don’t have to like it, you just have to get on board with it.
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When can I fucking equip/see the DLC costumes? I know apparently they don't apply in the overworld and only in dungeons but how far into the game do I need to be to see the option of equipping them/be notified of my pre-order/extra DLC stuff being in my inventory? Like how do I see if my free easy mode DLC bullshit is actually working?
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NEW BREAD
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>>498331940
>>498331940
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>>498328981
>if I was a worm, you would still love me?
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>>498333528
I think the actual answer to his question is that, since he is a large person, he would be a large fish. This means that it is likely that he would be a rather bland fish.
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>>498331251
It's a fun part of her character, being a the tanky knight who is also a fucking loser!
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sometimes the game lets me play, sometimes the game is just an anime/visual novel I get to sit in the room with, sometimes the game says WAIT A FEW DAYS and doesn't let me level my king shit. what do you want from me game? what do you need? I just want to talk to the homeless poor person and level tolerance for a check but Gallica wants to king block me because I guess I need to watch a cutscene or something. I spent 10 hours having fun and now I have to wait until it lets me play again or something I don't fucking know. It's all so easy when I need to go through a dungeon and beat the guy in the dungeon. The parts between those moments, utter madness. Complete nonsense: show this child a picture NO NOT LIKE THAT YOU WEREN'T UNDERSTANDING ENOUGH HOLY SHIT! Talk to this lady about doing a job for her NO NOT LIKE THAT YOU FUCKING IDIOT YOUR TOO DUMB TO TALK TO HER! Convince this guy to let you do a favor for him so he does a favor for you NO NOT LIKE THAT IT WASN'T CREATIVE ENOUGH UGH!

I just can't wait to be king. how did you guys spend your four days in martiarairia?
I'm stuck I had to save and just get ready for bed.

also have we started getting good porn yet?
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>>498315760
SMT:IV that low? absolute philistine shit. someone get this guy a guide on media literacy.
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>>498302516
>Literally has Lich in his name
>Surprised light is his only weakness.



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