Previous thread >>498331940>Now available EVERYWHERE (but nintendo switch and xbox one)>Metaphor: ReFantazio Special Soundtrackhttps://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_kT8go1ScWljmvHOjpzywgsnV1fI036Ovg>Metaphor: ReFantazio peaks at 85k concurrent players on Steam!>Metaphor: ReFantazio surpasses 1m sales on launch day>Kino Commercialhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MDDTdS9rRdA>How many hours have you played?>What day are you on?>What are your favorite classses?>Are you having fun?
>How many hours have you played?28 hours>What day are you on?6/25? i dont remember. i dont want to open my game just to check>What are your favorite classses?Brawler and, the healer because i dont need to use fairy dust to heal anymore.>Are you having fun?YES. i wish i could play more but i really like this game and i didnt think i would like a persona-like game this much ever since i started playing the mainline SMT games.
You can't romance the girls what's even the point?Nu-Atlus has fallen...
>>498384271What on earth have you been doing? I have 2/3 that playtime and am weeks later with every available quest/dungeon cleared
Say something nice about my husband
>>498384356i had to start my demo playthrough which negated like a hour or two of progress, and im just very slow with these types of games. i think i put 300 hours into my persona 5 royal playthrough and i didnt even try getting 100% for that game.
>How many hours have you played?25 hours>What day are you on?7/23>What are your favorite classses?Knight starts out shit but Hulk has been carrying my ass now>Are you having fun?fun is gayI know anon has been saying the later dungeons are unfair, but I've been steamrolling shit just by doing sidequests. I only grinded once in the desert (for class exp) before I realized how easy it is to overlevel.
>>498384532start over* im fucking retarded, im a fucking retard
>>498384271>28 hours in and not even to july yetHoly fuckI'm in the mid 30's and I'm at the start of august>favorite classesBrawler, thief, magic knight
>Hulkenberg social link is just her going over and over about some childhood badboy she wants to fixNo wonder this game has no romance options
>>498384635>>498384535How do you build Magic Knight anons? I have it currently level 7 or so out of 20. I mainly felt that the row heal helps take some healing pressure off
>>498384271>How many hours have you played?23 hours.>What day are you on?8/19 in the dungeon.>What are your favorite classes?Brawler, Commander, Knight lines.>Are you having fun?Yeah, a ton! I'm glad they tuned up the difficulty. The last few Atlus games have been way too easy.
i like this https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jd9i54Oo2N8
>>498384775I just inherited some mage skills on there so she can hit weaknesses. Damage reduction passives would make more sense to make her a tank, but in almost every fight where having a tank would matter, the enemies spam AOE attacks so her taunt is useless anyway
>>498383994>hours 50>day 9/12>classMage + Summonner murder couple with Eupha >fun This mogs almost Atlus' whole library
Sex with Fabienne
>>498384429He kicks ass as a General and being an older, grieving veteran knight/assassin is cool as hell and gives him a unique feel and perspective.
>>498384775Get Warrior->Sword->Samurai maxed out. Level 20 passive on Samurai halves the damage you take, so you can just be an absolute tank.
I think Heismay should settle down with Fabienne. Grieving middle aged soldiers are her type, she's clearly got no objections to inter-tribal relations, they're both lonely and Maria needs a step dad.
Out of boredom, I wanted to figure out if it was possible to have a perfectly balanced build for thr MC.As it turns out, if you start with Luck and exclusively invest into Str/Mag/End/Agi via level up, you'll end up with everything more or less equalized thanks to the free points in Luck you get from using the toilet.Probably far from optimal but its a funny novelty.
>>498383994>hours45>what daya day after getting berserker archetype>classesgeneral, devil summoner and dark knight>funlots
>>498385358Given that MC's associated archetype is Seeker, the jack of all trades, that feels fitting
>no romance options>The girls flirt with you anyways ???????
>>498385335He should settle down with me!
Holy shit the Faithwight monster in the Blind tower don't fuck aroundIs it even possible to do the tower on fine days?
>>498385461There really is just no Valentine's Day date or kiss, cause otherwise its the same as P3-5
>>498385461>>498385820Yeah the game honestly feels like it has more actual in game romance if you ignore the optional stuff. It's more in your face.
What the actual FUCK were they thinking with the cyclops in the dragon temple
Really wish there was a quick swap in dungeons for archetypes. like maybe hold down LT and then D pad lets you choose from one of four. I hate having to go to equip, switch to mage, kill the blue enemies, go back, switch to main combat every single time I see an enemy
>>498385929I think he's basically designed as an enemy that can be easily avoided.
Nidia true form is superior to their glamour magic.
>>498384907For me, it's https://youtu.be/AFQW8VxxFAEand https://youtu.be/9K-1HIgrboo
>>498385929Isn't he a reused enemy? He is a bounty up north near Grand Trad, which unlocks the same time as the dragon temple.
Please tell me the girls are canonically virgin
>>498386305I haven't seen any male fairies, so Gallica is probably safe.
>>498385420If you want to go full bleeding edge optimzation accounting for mastery bonuses, you can probably skimp on End but it depends on the stat spread that the Seeker line has when maxed out.
>>498386305Only the fairy, the other girls are all turbo whores or have a male in their past
Bad weather is unironically one of the biggest dogshit mechanics I've ever seen in my life.Disabling Press Turns (for your team only) is just straight cringe artificial difficulty.
>>498386305only Gallica and Eupha
>>498386305Hulkenberg will only give it up to one who bests her in strategy games
>>498386461Who is Eupha's?
>>498386462There are weather forecasters for a reason. Engaging a dungeon in bad weather is entirely optional after the first one.
HOLY SHIT MARIA I GET IT YOU ARE LONELY STFU, what if Nanako but annoying
>>498386305there's no way catherina and junah are virgins
Just dick the loneliness out of Maria. What could be wrong?
>>498386462Just think about how nice it is when you get to a dungeon and it has the crystal respawner though, insane farm.
>>498386681It's entirely possible catharina is too dumb to know what sex is
>>498386653Her dad died like, a month ago, anon.
Do you think the politics of the game is too much on the nose in mirroring real world shit? I'm very early and just awakened to my persona at the top of the tower. Does the politics get worse as you progress?
>>498386653Shut up troon. Orphans should be protected.
How many months are in the game? Trying to figure how much luck I can get
>>498386797>in mirroring real world shit?How so? I feel like the people trying to pick up on that sort of stuff just want to be angry and have political brainrot.
>>498386797It's the same as what Persona 5 was.
>>498386797It honestly feels less comparable as it goes on. The racial issues in this game are fucking nothing like our world.
>>498386653it's better for kids to be open about their emotion. they aren't supposed to repress it. nanako being mature at her age is a sign of a broken home and it's not supposed to be a good thing. of course they can't address it in the main story because dojima family's character arcs take place in the social link dimension.
>>498386653>Nanako but annoyingSo Nanako
>>498386957>social link dimensionHonestly this is what annoyed me the most with p5
>>498386797>loooooooooool homo leeeeeeeeeeeeeelfuck off
>>498386797Honestly what >>498386886 said I feel like the only modern day comparisons are ones people are actively looking to be there to justify a hate boner they went into the game to justify.
>>498385335Fabienne should settle down with (me).
>>498386797They're not really pointing any fingers here. Just like with P5 they're blaming society as a collective entity.
>>498386957Locking important character growth behind slinks is always stupid. You get characters that have good arcs in their slinks that the main story needs to just totally regress cause you could have not done it.
>>498386628her brother
>>498386305Maria is the only virgin.
Who would sex with gallica work? I mean she would just full body hug your penis and flap her wings up and down?
So is the ideal A-XP farming strat to just grind normally on level 20 archetypes for the hero leaves of light? Or is there some other method?
>Only 4 levels deep into Maria’s bond>Already wanted to fight 3 charactersThe fuck is wrong with these people?
>>498387373I don't know about that......
>>498386872Ends in October cause the Calendar doesn't go any further right.
>>498386305Just off the top of my head....Gallica: You dont ever see any male fairies, possibly isHulk: combination of having few if any friends as her bonds show, singleminded devotion to her mission of finding the prince, the really serious type, it would actually be possible that she never found or care for the time to fuckJunah: Both her and Louis say that they were never in a relationship and she was mainly there as a public face of sorts. But who knows prior to that>>498386739She's dumb but on the other hand its a racial trait for Paripus to be completely open with their feelings so I imagine its very normal for them to sleep around
>>498386305Is the MC a virgin?
Fucking gallica
>>498387558He just came of age at 18 years old and lived in an isolated society from everyone else mainly with the oldies. It'd be a lot more shocking if he wasnt
>>498387558Not after Gallica gets through with him
I just beat Zorbo on the first day
Not leveling Mage first on MC has been really biting me in the ass. Don't make the same mistake, anons, the free mana and spell diversity ARE worth it.
If you think about it Gallica is a groomer
>>498387928Grius and Strohl are the physical hitting type so it feels natural to have MC on Seeker or Mage on the first dungeon. Heck doing so rewards you considering it gives you access to Blizz to more effectively fight the dragonMeanwhile I saw a streamer build MC for STR and did three Warriors in the Nord Mines...I didnt watch the rest of the stream but I assume that was a hilariously fun time
>>498387927you and everyone else itt on hard
>>498386797I honestly don't seen a single political take from the main party that I haven't at least understood where they were coming from if not just outright agreed with. Even the ones people love to spam on /v/ aren't really wrong.
>>498388167Mage Grius is easier than Warrior Grius in Nord Mines. 2x Bot/Blizz melts so many encounters its hilarious. The bird boss is completely free with that setup.
>>498388117Gallica is an -------
>>498388203I have two jobs though
>>498388572are you saying you're dumber than average so it's more impressive for you to beat a boss?
>Up to second city after Grand Trad>See Strohl heckle two different people, once with Louis, once with one of Louis's guys when they foolishly presented a human head but fail to realize how most of the population have never seen a humanIs he just a natural heckler?
>>498387558Mc isn't even a person.
>>498388637Yes
REEEEEE I'M AN IMPATIENT ZOOMER AND I WANT MORE CLASSES NNNNOOOOWWWWW (unironically though when the fuck do I get more this has been such a slow drip-feed)
>>498388790You're right he is a filthy elda
This game is fun and all but I don’t like the message and theme or “racism bad” and pro immigration values. It goes against my personal beliefs
>>498388943That sucks, but I sure don't remember anyone asking.
>>498388167It may seem natural based on stats but nord mines is really there to teach you that stats matter less than having good counterplay to the enemy.I did warrior grius this time too just because I did double mage in the demo and it was super easy.
>>498388943ok autist
Jesus fucking christ, fighting the Fatsolich during a rainstorm was complete utter pain. I am now getting a fucking weather reading before I ever go to a dungeon.
>>498388943It's okay, /v/erminbro. I'm pretty sure there must be a thread there complaining over and over about wokeshit in your games.
>>498389008>>498389120It’s just woke propaganda like Ubisoft and sweet baby inc, but since it’s so popular most of the anti woke content creators are too scared to speak up against it, like asmongold played it and said it was “fun”
stop giving him (you)spost more fairy feet
Who asked lol
>>498388840Do your social links
>>498387928You probably want everyone to level a bit of mage, seeker, healer and thief just for the elemental coverage
>>498389231Around release I had the thought of how Metaphor took just as much time to develop as freaking Concord yet its received very well even with all of its 'woke' themes and stuff which proves that Concord failed mainly because it just plain sucked
>>498388943t. Louis
>samefagging
>>498389530Nah anon people were just dying and begging for yet another soulless hero shooter from some no-name studioOh, and to pay $40 for it upfront
>>498389530It's not the woke themes, it's the lgbtqaxyz pandering that everyone hates from concord.Remove that, and concord will still be alive now
>still trying to shitpost with le woke
>>498389530Because concord wasn't even "woke". It just had shitty designs, zero marketing, and was a paid hero shooter 6 years too late. It could have been "based" and "redpilled" and it would have failed just the same, the narrative would just be reversed.
woke!based!redpilled!I'm stuck!in 2016!I have a!learning disability!
Come on, /v/. You already have your containment board for that crap.
>>498389979That's too bad, I hope you get help for it.
>>498389169I did all three of those side dungeons in the same trip, and had a rainstorm on every dungeon except for the forest one... where I was so overleveled, it didn't even matter
>>498384429>people saw this guy in early footage/trailers and were moaning about how it was another gay Atlus mascot>he's some based badass assassin knight
Amalgamation of themes that are present in every JRPG made since the dawn of time is just called woke now... it's really over...
>>498384429I was expecting another Morgana/Teddie. Pleasantly surprised how good he actually is.
Considering Lk/St or Lk/MaCan luck even crit? Not sure if I've seen it happen yet.
>even the most lukewarm and obvious theme like "racism bad" is enough to start culture war bullshit nowadaysI miss when game discussion was just about Square Enix going bankrupt but totally for real this time by the end of 2009 they'll definitely be shuttered guys it's gonna happen I promise laugh it up Final Fantasy bros Final Fantasy 13 was it the company is dead for sure
>>498390197The anti wokefags are now just as annoyingly obnoxious as the wokefags
>>498390328It's like we changed timelines in 2016 because that's when everyone got super political
>>498387308The chief is not banging his priestess-sister.
Is the sleazy fat merchant candidate supposed to be a Trump parody?
>>498389885>Because concord wasn't even "woke">It just had shitty designs...Fucking moron. It's not just that the designs are "shitty", the designs themselves are shitty because they're woke. It's garish "inclusion" at the cost of aesthetics with an explicitly anti-beauty sentiment (these brainrotted faggots hate beauty it's an undercurrent of Jewish originating subversive ideology) which is an has been a cornerstone of this agenda. Shut the fuck up and quit acting like you have any idea about what you're talking about.And for the record, I know all of this to be objectively true while also knowing Metaphor is not "woke".
>>498390320Yes. I crit all the time. You get lots of free luck starting from Ch2 as well.
>>498390562Delusional
hulkencutie….
>>498390716
>>498388117How old is Gallica? If you talk to the old man in Grand Trad that gives imagination enough he tells a story about how a grandson is mistaken by a fairy to be the same person as his grandfather who she met like, 80 years prior. When she is corrected the fairy says she's sad, because of how short lived non fairies are. So Gallica could be centuries old and we wouldn't know.
>>498390753Truly what won't she eat?
>>498390716>roughed it for a long time prior to the start of the game>doesn't have access to regular bathing until chapter 2She fucking STINKS. Actually everybody does.
>all these scenes telling the MC he's too young to drink and making sure to show he's just having tea while the rest drink alcohol It's a fucking fantasy world and he's 18, so dumb.
fucking hell 2h for the dragon temple just to grab all items on the map, the 3 gate block was a bitch
>>498390960That's the joke.
>>498390960I don't understand why they didn't just make him whatever arbitrary age he needed to be to drink. I don't want to be some young kid.
>>498390802That was my thought too she might be a few hundred years old and is a fucking groomer who has a thing for androgynous Elda boys
>>498390197Yeah I thought it would be something worse than usual but it's literally just bog standard JRPG stuff. /v/ are the biggest bunch of mindbroken cuckolds around.>>498390642He's right, you're retarded if you actually unironically try and pretend Concord isn't woke.
>>498390960it's the standard japanese jokenot sure why they think it's funny to repeat the same joke in every anime media
>>498391102>Gallica has an Elda fetish>she lived through the church's genocide of the elda, reducing their numbers to the point where people think they are myths>now she has to go on this elaborate "save the world" journey just so she can sit on an elda's shoulder and huff his boysmell
>>49839096021 is the age requirement for drinking in first world countries
>>498390960>it's a fantasy world>he doesn't know
>Metaphor debuts at number 37 on Xbox games sales. Xbox owners really don't play anything without a gun or a ball, huhWhatever, Metaphor sold like hotcakes anyway everywhere else
every time I look for enemies with gallica she says something like "maybe we should try moving things", what the fuck does it mean?
>>498390824Carpet
>>498391254It doesn't really play like a joke, more like scared of regulations making sure it's clear there's no underage drinking.
>>498391353At launch the only reason to get an xbox was as always halo and gamepass. Ps5 had everything else.
Cooking for Hulkencutie.
Are there any free virtue boosts like the juice in P5 or the Nurse in p3?
>>498391254>>498391046Wait, it's a joke? I thought it was a ratings thing to avoid depicting underage drinking.
>Hashino out-kinos the FF6 opera house
>>498391586Making sure underage don't drink alcool is a common japanese "joke"
>>498384429Is he a bottom or a top?
>>498391473when they add the HAHAH HERE'S YOUR JUICE INSTEAD!!it's totally also supposed to be played as a joke on top
DORKS!
WE can all agree that mage is the best archetype, right?
>>498392584Highly controversial.
>>498391390have you tried moving things?
is her social link locked behind story progression or something? mine still stuck at 4 since forever
>>498392640Thank you my beloved
>>498392584The issue I find with mage is that when you need a mage you really need two mages. And then when you don't need a mage having one is actually detrimental.
>>498392518lol man I love that so far where I am hulk and strohl didn't become irrelevant
>>498390960>>49839127819 is the drinking age in Japan.Making him fucking 1 year short of the drinking age when there's literally no difference between an 18 year old and a 19 year old and then making it a gag that he can't drink is obnoxious as fuck, mind you.
>FFtrannies actually review bombing the gameLmao
Why were anons worried about the game being short? It took smiley shy of 28 hours to complete one month, 6/2-7/2. And succeeding months will surely only add content
>>498392720Fairy yes, Pink hair Catherina yes
the drinking age thing is probably just them taking the piss against the censorship lawwhy do you care anyway, american comedy is equally obnoxious
>>498393137Highly subjective, to the point of practically being a non issue.
>>498393228Because journos are always retardedAs an example I just finished dragon temple at 35 hours and I hope this is not even half way inBut I feel it's more like 60% done already
Anyone killed the chicken in the desert the second they appear after the 1st bounty?
>>498392720>>498393296silly me forget the picture, thanks bro
>>498391630Doubtful, 2D-HD version in the Pixel Remaster revitalized it
>>498393404>keeping pace with a typical Atlus game means you’re retardedNah i fully expect me smjust starting the second town section means the game is a 90-110 hour experience without grinding
>lance dispels magicoh boy I wonder whats gonna happen...
>>498393652You actually don't know what's going to happen lmao
fucking hell the grind
>>498393696It definitely seems too obvious and in your face in the discussion about using it for it to be that. Honestly just fucking chuck the thing at the floating King head
>>498393732Honestly I don't mind grind, I mind some of the ones locked behind bond levels. Needing maxed out Gallica to get the ones past Wizard is fucking lame.
Can I not inherit passives from other classes?
>>498392584I just make a pseudo mage by inheriting the elemental spells on my Seeker, who also has access to wind spells.
>>498394073You can't take the starter passives, like the one for mage that gains mana in the overworld.
Basilio's s-link is so god damn good. He's easily my favourite character in the game.
>>498394158ah, fuck that's the one I wanted as well lol
>using powerpyx guide>lol beat this level 60 boss at level 30what the fuck??? LMAO
What is the total party size later on? 4?
>>498394179Alonzo is the current sleeper hit for me followed by BardonI'm probably not going to finish everyone by the end of this first playthrough but god I wish Basilio was in the party a little earlier
Is there new game+?
>>498394197Just hotswap in the field to mage when you need to restore mana and farm any overworld trash mobs outside Akedemia then once they're dead go into Akedemia and back out to reset them and farm more.
>>498394353Why not? You could beat the minotaur at level 10 in the demo and he's level 22.
So what makes bonds advance if you can't just hang out with them for progress?
Wada are you okay are you okay Wada
>>498394613on hard?
what is the point of using this skill when the boss can randomly fucking ignore it and just attack whoever he fucking wants???
>>498394740dude just triple warrior and unga bunga. fuck strat just fucking nuke him with physical
>>498394736Yeah, that's what I did. You needed to buy all of the ice scrolls you could get and have a little bit of luck but it was entirely possible without grinding.
>>498389885>Concord had no marketingThat's bullshit lmao.>Literally the first game shown at Sony's State of Play in May 2024, taking 1/3 of the runtime>Special editon Concord PS5 controller being sold for $85>Multiple animated shorts for certain characters Sony even commissioned an episode dedicated to Concord featured in the upcoming Secret Level show. Sony was expecting this game to be the next big thing that flopped hard.
uhh what does it do? I thought it's similar to the persona evolution or something
>>498394740Useful in the first dungeon until bosses start spamming AoE, then Hunkleberry becomes your defence down machine.
>>498389885Concord was absolutely woke, and it had all those other things going on at the same time too Now that Metaphor game? That shit ain't woke at all
>>498394540Yes
>>498395073Later on in the game
>>498394886can someone explain to me why they suddenly just ignored my agro skill and attacked MC and his blone haired boyfriend?? I thought only boss could ignore it with his status skill?
>>498394683I don't think it's really surprising that a remaster of a game from 18 years ago was less popular, especially when it didn't include the answer or any of the content from portable, plus it was on game pass so you could play it for $1
Hulkenberg and Heismay ear measuring contest
leveling wisdom from 3 to 4 takes forever holy shit
>the worm level Uh oh… STINKY!
>look at Summoner skills>it basically has noneSo is it just a synthesis job cause you wouldn't even level this thing up unless you just only use it for the rest of the game.
>>498395245>a remaster of a game from 18 years agothis is cope today, but unironically how people are going to remember one of the most sought after remakes there was a few years from now just like FF7
>>498395219did you forget to recast it? mind you taunt here only lasts for 1 turn
I have tolerance stuck at rank 3 and the rest at 4 but semi-close to 5 and I just made it to 9/12 am I fucked
>>498395420I recast it every round. I have no idea what happened. This necromancer is such a dogshit fight. Are next bosses better?
How the hell are you meant to kill the Human worm boss? Even with 3 ranks of defense his aoe attacks can take out 1-3 party members in 1 turn
>>498395527bro just come back at level 50 or something and bring your wife with ice damage along
the castles end boss is draining my mana like nothing else
>hit level 20 on a job finallySo that’s how grinding works in this game. It just starts showering you with exp
what archetype has rakunda and all the buffs/debuffs?and without spoilers could somebody tell me if we get an analysis ability like in the persona games?>>498390197it's pathetic but at the same time it proves all these people know nothing about the games they complain about, same with the people that actually push 'woke' shit, they don't play games either. Which makes the whole thing even more pathetic.
>>498395626I guessat least on Hard it's impossible at level 36
AGAIN. I CAST AGRO SKILL AND THE ZOMBIE JUST ATTACKED MY WARRIOR. Thankfully it missed.
>>498395527>>498395954this guy? yeah I too might have to return later, my plebs are at 37
>>498395964it tanks basic attacks not that a passtard would know
>>498396027I am level 49 and have no clue who this guy is.
>>498396050what do you mean? It was just a basic attack they use every round
So do the later areas sell the fish you could fish up, cause I don't want to waste days fishing to get all the cooking done if I can just buy this shit later. I presumed so just because you won't be in water for the rest of the game
>>498395405I think the people who wanted a P3 remake were mostly envisioning some sort of unified version that had everything from fes and portable in it, but for some reason they just remade the base PS2 original. At least they've said this game will not have a re-release with more content in a year.
Martira is comfiest JRPG town theme in a while
Act 3 dungeon difficulty spike is something else. This fucking tower is destroying me.
anyone know how much mp magical bread restores in total? trying to figure out if its better than cursed love ballad since they both use the moth ingredient
>>498396027The heck? I just got the first boss battle with him and I’m only level 22 with two mastered archetypes
>>498396443Feels like its 30-40, its not alot
It will be the first time I have ever lowered difficulty in smt game. I really do not enjoy this game.
>>498396510That's the true boss version
>>498396539is this bait? smtv on hard (at least the base version idk about VV) was WAY harder than this, what?
What the fuck were they thinking when they designed Homo Margo's second phase? Can this thing even hurt you, or is it only here to annoy you?
>that minotaur at the towerfuck off
>>498396539> I really do not enjoy this gameHonest question but Why are you playing then?
>>498396785No it wasn't lmao. SMTV is easy as shit even on hard
>>498396785If by hard, you mean hard to game over.
So far the OSTs are pretty underwhelming desu, at least compared to P5s
>>498396785smtv was much easier.>>498396838I will give it a few more hours.
>>498396027i did it at like level 42ishyou really need to prioritize buffs/debuffs and you'll be fine. general is a fucking godsend archetype for this fight
>Gallica, please be nicer to meMy sides, it was just as good as I thought it would be.
Is there any point to killing the shadow monster when you first see it instead of running away? I spent like 30 minutes to kill that thing on hard, and it just runs away and shows up again later anyway. Should I just reload a save and get my MP back? Does killing it early on have any effect later on?
>>498396992It's pretty hard to lose fights with Heinsway as General. Lead with Vigor, nuke + debuff, end the turn with Shelter. Enem,ies can't do shit.
>>498397059Its the same thing you fight later so I assume no.
>>498397059You can fight it?
I'm running out of MP much quicker than the persona games is it really a skill issue?
>>498397228either use mage on mc, monk to avoid mp, or a synthesis move that can kill every encounter turn 1 since they're usually cheap
>>498397102You need that Bardon to max bond level to get those though, so it is the back half of the game.
>>498397413No you don't, you need level 3. Inherit Vigor into General.
>>498397102i personally put general on the protag since ive been struggling to figure out a main archetype. pugilist kind of sucks ass, magic seeker is eh since im str and ive already got knight and warrior covered with hulkenberg and strohl. maybe thief? im probably gonna bench heismay since junah feels alot stronger and its nice to have an actual strong magic user
>>498397354thanks anon
>>498397440Oh I forgot Commander got the other one so I thought you were mentioning the job after General.
>>498397228It's harder than Persona. You're expected to take a few days per dungeon.
>>498397490Pugilist on STR Protag has been destroying anything without a Phys immunity for me.
>>498397124>>498397160Yeah, and you don't get anything for beating it except some xp. At this point I'm just going to reload a save and get my MP back. Fuck running around with Mage and farming weak enemies just to get MP back. It's a sad oversight that they would give you the option to take on a hard enemy early, and give you jack shit for it.
>>498397554It's also easier than Persona on the time management side so there's really no reason to not take a few days if you need to. The game is incredibly lenient with getting shit done in the time frames.
>>498397554>>498397761yeah I was planning to plough through the dungeons in the shortest time frame like with the Personas but sounds like they've tried to balance around that here
Do status ailments work against bosses anons? Or they follow the normal jrpg route of 99% of them being immune to everything?
>>498396992yeah I think I will make it
>>498397560power thrust is great but ive noticed that any skills that scale with how full your health is are immediately worse than just doing a normal phys attack like power thrust
>mfw just got spoiled by a youtube thumbnail
I want to turn Eupha into a Pugilist do incenses used carry over from one playthrough to the next
Finally got new party members, and I still have 20 Leafs to spare after maxing their classes + getting their pre-reqs for their next tier. Feels good.
>>498398168Usually the game will tell you ahead of time if using an ailment will work. Like the one Louis soldier in chapter 3They work much better against minibosses and sidebosses than big baddies. I've noticed poison tends to work a lot.
This game is way harder than Persona wtf
how does her hair float like this?
Sex Alarm
fucking love it when the battle music kicks in and all the blokes are like humminanuminamamumminananhuminamanana
>>498398263Yeah I almost never use the Strike attack unless it's to hit a Strike weakness. The HP scaling on it is indeed ridiculously harsh. The main thing that carries Pugilist as a chassis is access to great Fists.
Virga Island dungeon spoilers>they literally drew a path on the ground because they thought their audience would get 100% filtered by an EO dungeon>audience gets filtered anywaykek
>>498398847Even before that with the fog room, the path is on the roof. You get 2 stones telling you about fog=-wrong way and then also just show the path up top
Truly a better milf design has never been done by this company. Fabienne is PEAK
>>498398847It was funny to read people talking about what a slog it is, Etrian guilds wish their Labyrinths were that small.
>>498398934dont like the green tights
>>498398757yes honey...
is it me or does this mf look more detailed than the rest of the cast?
Metaphor might have one of my favorite casts so far in any game. So much sincerity and SOUL
>>498398934>not even an slink>no romance anywaysthis game has blessed us with the best milfs (fabienne and brigitta) and yet atlus decided to dangle them in front of us
GFDStudio 0.9.0 is being released fairly soon-ish with support for Metaphor which means the super early days of P5 modding model edits are coming to the game The GFS blender plugin that works for P5 though will not work with the game for quite awhile probably
I'm loving the game but most of all it bodes well for P6
>>498399493I like that despite being a blatant blank slate self insert MC actually does have some chemistry with the other characters.
picked it up in the volcano, wtf do i do with it
>>498399791>it bodes well for P6literally how lmao
>>498399791P6 going back to One More and spamming all out attack will feel shit after this. Plus the school setting is inherently not as interesting.
>finished the Mine dungeon IV and V really killed my motivation to play these games. Weakness spamming is dull af
>>498400235Try doing a dungeon during bad weather and you'll miss weaknesses very quickly.
how much attack is +1 tarukaja? when am I repalcing this auto tarukaja on all my allies for random battles
>>498399994>superior turn system>more open world>embracing a non-school setting>better side quests>streamlined and focused persona system>QoL improvements (royal virtue progress bar, swordboard, not needing to go to velvet room/akademia to make changes)there's more but they're clearly improving on the formula, so I can only assume P6 will do even more
>>498400043What if...what if... College setting???And the whole game plays out as a different murder mystery and you have to stop actual criminals by going into their hearts.
TARUKAJA STACKS LET'S GO
>>498398757Hulkenberger, my beloved.
>>498400443>embracing a non-school settingThis is the only thing I guarantee P6 will never be. Atlus is too backward for new ideas.
I don't especially like or dislike Gallica and I always pick the dialogue choices that mess with her.
It's much easier to level archetypes by simply using your maxed out archetypesYou don't need to gimp yourself and the leaves you get when you level at max archetype makes up for it
>>498400942yeah, it's a shame because it holds the stories back
>makes a character that can use parts of any of the Archetypes in the game in their base Archetype, giving them a lot of flexibility at the cost of a very valuable accessory slot>gives that Archetype and character by far the worst STR in your party so they have access to a ton of STR skills they can't use well, nullifying half the value of their flexibilityWhat did Atlus mean by this?
help bros, I just got the 3 eyed gril and not sure how to build my teamI've had Strohl healing and it just feels bad, I want one of the new girls to heal but not sure if it's a good idea since they have their own unique archetypes. what team/builds are you guys using?
JESUS that "surfing" section was so fucking scuffed lol, what the fuck were they smoking
>>498399791It probably bodes well for mainline and spinoffs but persona has always been its' own thing drowning in its' own cliches.
>>498401193Why would you make the STR guy a healer? I'm pretty sure their stat growths are independent of your class choices but feel free to correct me.
>>498401329it wasn't my intention, I already had hulkenberg decently leveled on brawler and I needed a healer
>>498401193Junah is basically the designated healer/buffer.
>>498401156I'll just list out about what I've done:>Strohl Man has investment into Brawler and Pugilist and that is it. He has been a champ with that little investment and also a fantastic EXP farm. I dunno what I'll do with him, the new girls look a lot better.>Hulk-chanI made her into a mage and now the new characters have obsoleted her in this role. I'm not sure what to do with her now. Probably drop her.>HeinswayBuff specialist, will eventually grab Debilitate and he'll stick in the General line. >Junah and EuphaAt this point I think the best thing to do to get them stronger is work on unlocking their pre-requisites for their next Archetype class. Eupha might also want Wizard to more flexibly hit weaknesses for a cheaper cost. Tossing a heal onto Junah always greatly improves her flexibility, so go for Medica there IMO.>General thoughts on party-buildingAt this point Strohl, Hulk-chan and Heismay all should have enough social links to get full EXP on the bench. So you definitely want to run Junah, Eupha and +1. Heinsway is the best IMO but just use whoever you had invested in for buffing, it's pretty costly to change course at this point.
do party members join at fixed levels or equal to your mc?
>>498401193why not just pump healer on one of them then switch them back to their main and inhereit medica?
>>498401743>>498401193Meant for this.
The story feels like it comes from one of the few Tales of games with a decent story. I guess that's what they were going for.
>>498401801I think it's fixed, I'm underleveled (lvl20) and my new party member is lvl23
>>498394539Basilio really isnt as late as autists say. You get him pretty soon after you get Eupha.
>Louis ended up being dealt by the heroes like a mid-boss no pathos after the battle whatsoeverIncredible, spend your entire game acting as if Louis is a shakespearean tragedy villain who paraleles the MC and finishing him up with a fart
>>498401743I’ve made Strohl my merchant since the almighty skill is STR based.
>>498395359No, its because Summoner has a unique mechanic where you have to "craft" skills unique to it, like the masks for Dancer.
I love this speedy ninja bat cat nigga like you wouldn't believe
>>498402123oh so that's why it hits like a fucking truck with my mc
>>498400482>what if even more trashyNo thanks faggot.
>>498402037>he doesn't know
>>498401692is there masks to make her a good healer or should I have her level healer? it sucks switching someone's roles when I have someone else almost maxed on the 2nd rank archetype for healing for example
>>498402350What should I know?
>>498402324Nothing is worse than a fucking High School.
>>498402209He's had a hard life...
>>498401743i feel like heismay just kind of sucks desu, either putting someone else on the commander lineage or just inheriting the buffs is better. sure heismay gets first turn cause of his insane agility but it doesnt really matter, as long as you're getting the buffs/debuffs off during the entire first turn then it isnt that big of a deal. the reason i like hulkenberg is because dark knight and paladin are pretty fucking cracked and i dont feel like pumping the shit out of the mc or strohl just so i can replace her
>>498402402You'll be using her with 1 slot for a while, I think a Heal and then Masks to cover elements is the best bang for your buck. That also gives you Hamaon for a cheap single-target if you need it.
>>498402350Every idiot that thinks the spear is an obvious gimmick is gonna fall for this lmao
>>498402550He is a weird character cause none of the melee physical skills scale on Agility so what is the point of having THAT much more agility starting off? I wish back-row skills scaled on agility not STR
>>498401957Tales of Fantazio
>>498402550What's so good about having your buffer/debuffer go first with Shelter is that even if you can't always guarantee 4 turns, passing will still let you get the person in 1st or 2nd's turns. So you can Shelter at the end of your damage turn and have all your melee go into the backrow and nothing hurts you. He is really unparalleled at doing this, this especially matters when the boss doesn't have a weakness to abuse.
>>498402402Theres a mask based on every Archetype, so yes either the Healer/Cleric/Saviour mask. I've had her on Cleric mask since I got her.
>Junah is a gigastacy >Eupha is a gigatrad wife I can't choose
>>498402836Yes, you literally can't.
Gameplay question: is the front row relevant for physical archetype skills or literally just melee weapon attacks?
>>498402907Physical archetype skills AND synthesis skills
>the starting lineup is loaded with frontliners with subpar magic stats>then two high magic characters in a row join several hours into the game>they'll probably rot because I can't be arsed to grind good archetypes on them or play with their meme base archetypesWeird. It'd be like having ryuji, yusuke and haru as your starting party in p5.
>>498386797>Avarage shonen fag way to afraid to talk about politics because it gives him anxiety He doesn't know...
>>498403208The real Ryuji hasnt even joined your team yet, anon
>>498403360well he'll DEFINITELY rot in reserve then
>>498402521They should keep making games for their primarily Japanese audience in mind first and foremost, and the foreign ancillary audience can like it or not. It's so frankly weird and out of line when they push that it needs to change outside of what Atlus wants to do.
So I assume cleaning and washing clothes are better relegated to NG+? Unless they are one time things with substantial bonuses.
ailment build is kinda fun but all the main bosses are problably immune to anything other than poison
>>498403412you say that now, but wait until you see this retards stats
>>498403515You can do them daily and like +3 max mana for a day isn't great when you start being cockblocked on stats in bond levels
>>498403208Your PEDs?
Okay the opera house is fucking kino
>>498403615>resists all physWhat archetype is that?
>>498403648ignore the HDR making the colors look blown out, its not what I see
>>498403840its the last party members base archetypr
Does hanging out with my friends at night on the Gauntlet runner helps with bonds or am I better off reading books?
I can't take it anymore. I'm sick of playing merchant. I try to play Swordmaster. My merchant deals more damage. I try to play mage. Merchant deals more damage. I try to play brawler. Merchant deals more damage. I want to play seeker for story immersion. Merchant does everything better and gold efficient“future archetypes will be better” I tell myself. They can’t break four digits of damage. “where’s your gold?” Gallica sulks. This happens everytime I’m not using merchant. There’s nothing but poverty without merchant. What a cruel world
>>498403840Samurai, in the Warrior lineage, has a passive that halves all damage taken but you can't dodge. Throw that on your magic knight tank and its smooth sailing
>>498401743I made Hulk into my designated healer. Stay on the backline with Gunner or with Knight and heal people, or if she has a free action use the stronger gunner/sniper skills.
Why is Junah 3D model better than her 2D portrait lmao, usually it's the other way around for these persona lots
>>498403208They expect mc to play mage/support because he's a little kid.
>>498404154magic knight gets a super good heal that will heal everyone on the backline for about 200hp and doesnt cost much MP
>>498404215Her eyebrows are too small on the portrait, so it makes her forehead look even bigger. Somehow they look fine in the model and in her concept art.
Woah woah, is this the power of connections??
>>498404215its just the Nidia looking creepy as fuck, they're all evil im sure
So companions on the runner are just there to boost stats while travelling if you run out of books? From my understanding bonds in this game don't need to be progressed like Social Links, if you meet the requirements they go up?
what is this expression trying to convey?
Ahahahaha no way, is this true? Is luck just a troll stat for retards wanting to be different?
>>498404803She wants to lick Will’s lil will
>>498404767You can also re-read the books but yeah you don't hang out with someone just to progress the bond a little like the Persona games. You meet the requirement or you don't. Just fun dialog with people plus some stat increases
>>498404767If it's a "Kingly Virtue" boosting event you will see the symbol for it above their head/on the map and the stat it boosts will be highlighted in the prompt. If it's "spending time with them" (raising their bond by 1) it will say "Check Bond with X" in the same prompt.
>3 ranks into Bardon and he has already renamed the town to Oceania
>>498405023Guy got a whee bit power and goes fucking crazy
>>498405023You fucking retard, thats the name of his country
>Brigitta's routeHOLY SHIT JUST FUCK ALREADY
>>498404010so>20 warrior>20 swordmaster>20 commander>10 generalfuck this
>>498404849Luck has never really had a huge effect on crit rate but it does affect a gorillion things. There's no real point in directly investing into it when you get more than enough from +Luck MC and toilet days.
>can fast travel by thinking of places>can't fast travel BACK to a dungeon or side-villageYeah fuck you game, I forgot which village sold those 300k weapons. I bought a fan but I think it had something for healer too I want. That weapon is still like so much better than the fans you get around the dragon temple
>>498405883its the town to the right of gran trad
>>498395219I think if you taunt, and cycle back to the caster before enemy could move, the effect wears off AFTER the caster's next action, and you can't recast it before it wears off. So if you taunt and get another action before enemy's turn, it won't actually do anything.
see ya later nerds
>>498404010it says half damage taken but it's only physical? I thought it was all damage halved
>>498406639Based on the writing of the passive, I'd say it should also be all damage. Just a JRPG thing to do its own thing.
I struggle to care about Louis as a villain/character. He's the least interesting persona bad guy by far.
>>498404849it's not bad if you combine with the passive that double your crit rate but yeah you're probably better off putting your points into str and mag
Something has been bugging me, do I actually unlock both ability, or do I make a choice when I hit confirm ?
Okay who's the retard at atlus who designed it so system menu defaults on the load button instead of save, and how LOADING A SAVE TRIGGERS AUTO SAVE IMMEDIATELY.
>>498406807For a final boss I am glad he atleast shows up regularly in the game. The holy grail thing in Persona 5 just shows up towards the very end. The setup around this tournament is just weird which makes it not feel as interesting as P4's murder mystery for me.
>>498406983both
>>498406983Why don't you check your progress after ranking up and see that both are highlighted in the menu showing that you have gained both abilities? God's sake.
>on hard>boss has 2 turn icons>buff and debuff it everytrun>boss spends 2 turns removing my buffs and his debuffs everyturn>get unscathednice kiddie baby difficulty game (also 10 levels below the boss)
>>498384429He is really hates paripus
>>498403993This says so much about society
>>498407342Everyone who is mentally sound does. Sure there are captions like the brawler, but for the most part they continually prove themselves to be shitters who have only worked hard to earn their reputation
>>498407298Yeah I have no idea what they were thinking with that boss.
>>498403993It's always merchants that are at the top of social hierarchy.
>>498385335>telling the dude who hates Paripus to marry one
>>498405458>bitter career woman with a dog gives jailbait boy money to hang out with her for a bithmmmmmm
>this 4th dungeoni fucking hate this.
>>498407298Getting bosses into a loop is the PEAK of gaming and you can't convince me otherwise.
Based?
>>498405458The third(?) part of hers was so retarded I couldn't help laughing at it>These people maybe killed my dog so I am going to brutally massacre their entire village>Uh, are you sure about that?>So you support killing dogs then
The writing to justify the infiltration of Louis's ship is so bad. How any of the team think that knocking out a bunch of guards, beating up Louis's most loyal supporters and stealing their keys, and causing a bunch of problems around the ship won't alert him is insane. I haven't gotten to the soiree yet but even if he knows what they did all along (the story kinda feels like it'll go that way), it still makes the team look stupid for even considering it would work.Like yeah let's construct this multi-month long plan to pretend to be Louis's supporters and then have everything hinge on all of his supporters that we beat up being too scared to lose their jobs to tell him.I'm frustrated because the story up until this point felt pretty believable and grounded. But then it turns into this lazy slop.
>>498406405>no white pubeswasted potential
ywn shake hands with Eupha, god damnitbest arc so far
>5/7 of your party in their base canonical Archetype are slashwhy the fuck would they do this
>>498394353Yea it’s fucking retarded and assuming you’re playing on storyteller because you get like 2 or 3 times the exp from fights
>>498408093Maybe there's an alt image idk I just saved it.
>>498408154>barely anything is the game is weak to slash>but a fuckton of enemies are weak to pierce
>>498408072>Why do people who believe in world of STR abide by barbarian way of thinkingGee I dunno.
>>498408072not even the worst bit of writing regarding that
Is there a single attractive girl in this game?
Eupha has the best not Social Link, but Junah probably has the best role in the main plot.
seeker is fucking garbage
>>498408072Bro you ain't seen nothing yet. That fucking chapter is full of dumbass writing.
>>498408573Me when I lie. Soul Hacker is one of the best classes in the game
>>498407804tfw I went there at level 44 and almost every enemy dies without going to combat
This game is woke dogshit
>>498408072Right from the start the plan hinges on him not recognising Hulkenberg, who was there when the prince got cursed and chased and stabbed the guy who did it
>>498408581It kinda felt that they just rushed to the finale in the last part of the game. The abandoned Magic Academy not being a dungeon was pretty blatant, too.
>>498408870Ok.
>>498408541>JunahWhat did she even do? I'm at the sky castle and she hasn't really done much outside her slice of the story with her sister. All party members have pretty uniformed amount of importance to me.
>>498408072They uhhh did it super stealthy so no one noticed.
>>498408758its the same for me but trying to navigate this place as someone who likes to find everything is aids
>>498409012It'll be a dungeon in Metaphor ReReFantazio in a few years for another 60 bucks
>>498408995Hinges on it how exactly? There are many people even NPCs who know her as the fallen knight, are you actually like stupid and think it's bad writing? Louis even aknowledging he recognizes Hulkenberg would pretty much imply he was the attacker.
>>498408995??? Everyone knows she's a royal knight that quit, she went out of her way to quit precisely so joining the Louisian faction wouldn't cause problems Her being there when the prince was attacked means nothing to anyone besides her because Louis doesn't know the prince is alive in the first place
>strohl literally has a meltie in front of louis and calls him a psychopath>"haha yeah anyway go fetch me this legendary artifact btw it's cool you were on my ship when it mysteriously took off and you also killed my lackey"This writing lmao.
Kung fu tea is doing themed metaphor drinks
>>498409630Not only are you a speedreader but also retarded
>>498409630>says to a guys face he personally allowed his entire family and friends to be killed and his home town to be razed to the ground>receives meltiehow could this happenits not like strohl even did anything besides jump in place
>>498409145What do you mean? Her sister is the curse caster that literally triggered the whole plot.
Is this going to be the new "Why did people rally behind Louis at the funeral?"
Do only the MC plus the first two party members have a combat start cut-in?
>>498409630Here we have the Persona 3 fan in its natural habitat Unfamiliar with the written word, the Persona 3 fan appeals to emotion with projection and cope when trying to assert dominance
>>498410191no youre just unlucky, everyone has one
>>498410257The age of a new king draws near.
>>498410283I'm starting to miss the critical hit/weakness cut-ins from persona
I will say, I think the linear nature of the tournament of the brave hurts the overall enjoyment of the game. I could see a game with this popularity race, and calendar system, but structured like say Pathfinder KM/WOTR where you freely go around in acts but can easily fuck up being a more compelling game.
Who is the Futaba of Metaphor?
>>498410352shut upppp
>>498410552>whos the actually retarded 15 year old whos technically your adopted little sister that the game lets you fuckhopefully noone jesus christ
Can I fight the baby thing early without fucking up the entire dungeon?
Jesus fucking christ.
The palace dungeon magic doors are fucking aids holy shit
Wow, the Faker seems mediocre as fuck. 48MP for a chance to increase or decrease turns? At least Trickster looks good.
Hello
does rain also make enemies immune to press turn? or does "inclement weather" only refer to the shiny special weather each area has?
>>498411201Why is almost everyone taller than the MC?
>>498410935>+15 Mag/Luck for freeBalanced builds continue to win.
I really wanna press my turn into Heismay
MAGIC SUCKS ASS
>>498411201I can't self-insert into the MC because he is a midget
>>498411570haha y-yeah same
Doujins when?
>>498411201Why you have such long ears, Hulk-chan?
>>498410072So? Her sister is an important element of the plot and she's the driving force of that element, sure. In the story itself she still wasn't given a role anymore important than the other members.The king himself is the driving force of Louis' character and the main reason why everything is fucked up but for the overall story he's still barely matters.
>>498384973This is late but hitting weaknesses isn't as important as her synthesis that gives enemies weaknesses. It's not important early game but it is late game.
>>498411680This game flopped so never
>>498411338He's probably the youngest member in the party period. The height disparity kind of reinforces both that and metaphorically being the underdog
>>498411338Because his race is average japanese male.
Game too litty
>>498411680never
>>498411542Why?
>>498411135It's useful, i.e. use last in your first turn to apply two rounds of buffs at the start of a harder fight, or to squeeze extra damage out of buffs during a turn before they expire
>getting filtered by zorba when you can just unga bungai can't even, god why are you people so bad at games
this is the first black person ive liked, i love him
>>498412210Zorba is actually filtering people? He was easy as fuck
>>498412223get it? you're a racist? haha i laughed you're so funny anon. are you from some backwards country in europe? yup you sure are. you quirky person you
>>498412383add him to the annals of shitter history with Matador, Minotaur, and so on
>>498411752Kind of a bad example; King is a very important key character because he is More.
>>498412487but its true, this is the first black person i liked, are they like this?
I hope the story has something hidden other than heroes want something the exact same as the villain but the villain is just an evil douche which is why we're stopping him. like please to god tell me there's some hidden motivation here.
>>498412598yeah it's also true you're a racist from some backwater country in europe. you got any other observations that you've found? like you're a homosexual? a woman in a male's body? >>498411752>>498410072also god damn bros you fags need to learn to use the spoiler tag. at least the last guy spoiler tagged my retarded ass hovered over.
>>498412640Louis is a Chaosfag, the main characters are Neutralcucks.
>>498412640you need to kill louis and save the prince and comeback alive so you can inseminate maria
English or Japanese?this is probably the only atlus game where I'm sticking with the english dub. Japanese is okay but english fits the setting more and there hasn't been a real need to have japanese troy baker or laura bailey spit out some emotional moments.
>>498412814Stupid nigga shut upr
>>498408072usually strohl will comes up with a retarded plan that is clearly going to fail, then everything works out because ¯\_(ツ)_/¯at least it's better than some other jrpgs that force your mc to be the idiot one for the sake of tension, here you just tag along
>>498413014>upr
Berg
>you can actually trigger a bad endingoopsie
Unironically is there any book like MC's actual book that's just infodumping about a "fictional" society? The closest I've read was starship troopers but that's more of a coming of age story.
>>498412992i picked Japanese, i dont like the dub voices much aside from maybe strohl but idk with Japanese its harder to judge so i usually go with Japanese on these games.
>>498409630What do you suggest he have done ? He can’t kill him and he really wanted to know and was trying to distract him
>>498413183Anon...
>>498413386kek
I wonder how the SMT devs are feeling right now.
For early game, what's the best "subclass" for Hulkenburg and Stahl? With MC, I've just been using Brawler + Medi for healing.
>>498413149From what I know, they seem to be super obvious press X to get a bad ending kind of thing rather than because you fucked up earlier in game
>>498413183>>498413386kek what's with the influx lately of secondary faggots that don't realize every last idea from Atlus games is taken from religion/philosophy/psychology concepts that have been around for hundreds and hundreds of years
>>498412992jp voice but also jp text. i never played jp games in english because i'm efl (english as fourth language) and learned jp before it.
>>498413506Need some kind of magic, can’t go wrong with giving hulk mage because she needs it for her next knight class
>>498413506For Cathedral I used MC on Healer, Strohl on Warrior because the dragon sword gives his attacks fire affinity and Hulk on Brawler because early game Knight just sucks and they arent throwing you Pierce weak enemies yet
>>498413386>>498413183......wow that's embarrassing. thanks anon. is this game going to start talking about kant and some imaginary lines or something.>>498413639fuck you. don't tell me khonsu is an actual human god or whatever that fucked some japanese chick.
Do you get more free time later on anons? Just made to the second city and you don't get much yet
>More's cat is called Plato
>>498413454Pretty good knowing that they still make the best games at Atlus
>>498413639turns out advertising works and people get into franchise for the first time all the time.
>>498413987>>498413639you know what fuck you, how was i suppose to know that it was an actual book. eat shit and live
>>498413506>1st FloorMage/Warrior/Mage>Upper FloorsHealer/Brawler/Mage, occassionally running 2x Mage when fighting the blue orbs.
>>498384429expected morgana, got frog
>>498414123i was literally on your side.
do you think Hulkenberg and Grius..?
>>498413965>they still make the best games at Atlus
>>498414198IM NOT NEW IVE BEEN INTO THIS SERIES SINCE DESU1 RELEASE. YES I KNOW ATLUS PULLS A LOT OF THIS SHIT BUT HOW WOULD I KNOW ITS AN ACTUAL BOOK
Is it gay to spend your time stroking your sword with Strohl?
Considering the nature of the twist. They really should've just went the extra mile and just made Metaphor the Turn A of Atlus.
>personacentral
>>498414314its okay, im a different guy but i also didnt know it was based off a real book.
I'm genuinely surprised how "toned down" Metaphor is. Doesn't feel like it has the oomph or the style P5 has. Maybe it's intentional but I was really expecting something kinda wild but it seems to be playing by the books so far. Feels like DQXI has more flair and that's saying something.
Has anyone tried the cracked demo yet?
>>498414314Okay, turns out people can just enjoy things without knowing/caring whether if it was based off other things or not, and there's nothing wrong with that.Do calm down.
>>498414471Calling Junah and Eupha's Archetypes references to Persona and SMT is an understatement, too.
>>498414859NO DONT CALL ME A SECONDARY FAGGOT OR NEW BECAUSE I DIDNT KNOW IT WAS AN ACTUAL BOOK AHHHHHHHHH
your mag farm bro? seriously the red crystal things spawning enemies INFINITELY is retarded
>>498414960Only a secondary tourist would get this mad.
>>498415013Why? It lets newfriends such as yourself beat the series.
>>498415081>>498415067YOU. P4AU LOBBY NOW
>>498415169Only a tourist would try to prove he's not a tourist with a P4AU lobby.
>>498415169>zoomer that has been grinding a dead game recently wants to try to prove something in itNo thanks.
dios mio...
Which Archetype is the best to start off with?SaberCasterArcher
Is there any significant loot/steal differences between the starboard and port wings on Louis's skyrunner dungeon?
>>498413987It also helps that there's so much content in the demo. That's what sold me on it.
>>498415604You can do both, just turn around.
>>498415081stop acting like you didnt cheese fusions in old smt games until you got the exact skills you wantedwho am i kidding youre probably a persona5 baby
>>498415652I don't think rolling a skillset is comparable to grinding, sane people try not to rely on bad odds skill inherits anyway.
Just got teleportation and now I have decision paralysis, not sure if I should do Komero, the Goborn or the Cuculus quest first.. I can also go see Maria..
is there ACTUALLY no romance in this game? like 0? i thought there would be no romance because there's a canon romance but nobody really feels canon yet....
>>498415881No FUCK OFF
>arrived at Forsaken Tower during stormfug
>>498415881Why do people care so much about romance in Persona games? It barely has relevance even there. You get a couple scenes and that's it. It's never even mentioned in any of the plot scenarios.
>>498409630You and Louis both are using each other to achieve respective goals, you're not friends in the first ppace.
>>498383994
>>498416208haha...
>>498414879Don't forget the one called SOUL HACKER>>498415506Where did you get this anon...
got rekt by the big baby
why does junah have such a huge forehead why does soejima keep drawing girls with huge foreheads when it's his main weakness
>>498410552The brown mechanic.
This silver I arena fight is absolute fucking horse shit.
>>498416445People crying about Zorba sure are in for a rude awakening
>>498416334Good thing is you get so much exp at least
>>498411201>royal snu snu time
>>498413747The pierce synthesis is the only defense reduction skill you get for a long time. You shouldn't underestimate it.
Should I do the tomb or the forest first? I can only do one before "the mission"
Isn't this pretty good? The guarding costs half a press turn one seems solid too.
>>498412640Technically Louis isn't the only villain.
>get to the Virga island dungeon on hard>l can literally kill all enemies on the overworldI'm level 37, did I somehow overlevel? I haven't really grinded shit.
>>498416396>Where did you get this anon...Rank 8 Neuras
>>498416767i found the tomb too hard before the the mission but its objectively more efficient. but you do lose out on shit when you do it first because you cant steal from some of the enemies in there designed to be stolen from
>>498412210People take random shit just because game lets them while also playing on hard and then get their ass beat.
>>498417047>you cant steal from some of the enemies in there designed to be stolen fromUh yes you can
Zorba is way harder than Minotaur and Matador to be fair.
>>498416767do forest first>>498417120not if you do it before you have thief from the story
>>498416893Both of them have a lot of asteriks. If you guard and come back around to the person, then you need to guard again. You can plan around this but given that making actions cost half a turn makes it more likely for you to rotate around, it can be hard to fully work with. The actions still cost press turns as normal and there is an increasing opportunity cost of accessory slot that could be further boosting your damage or providing other utility as the game progresses. Great early though.
>>498415881There is a plot reason for no romance but it's not because you get one.
>>498416208It took some planning for me to be able to take the village route to the tower so I could also clear the tomb and other stuff on the way while not getting inclement weather it was a total pain in the ass but doable
>>498417217Well I assumed he was ready to go to the castle but I guess he meant the cave. Then yes, forest for sure.
>>498417365dont tell me i'm about to get hit with another I WILL NEVER LEAVE YOU :(
>>498415648Is it even worth bothering or is it a waste of time like fighting the baby human early in dungeon 2
>>498416893If you have someone you want to attack twice it's good otherwise it disrupts a lot. There were a lot of times where it was a detriment though since specific battles required that one character not have two actions.
please tell me there is a level where I can do tricks on my sword skateboard don't tell me atlus missed like that
>>498417670This dungeon is short so it shouldn't be much of a strain and there's a decent amount of stuff, I'd recommend it.
>>498417732no but there is a legit skateboarding kino scene
wait a minute, do you get different thing from different party member?
>>498417798good enough for me
>>498417556Nah, it's fine.
>>498417795I am running out of side/bond stuff to do so I guess I should go and rob that place and do main quest stuff
>>498417825Different named items, but same effect.
>>498417825Yea but it all +5 to stats
>>498417795Yeah the bootleg MGS1 gimmick is kinda neat
>>498413506They want Hulk to be a mage, knight and commanderThey want Stahl to be a warrior, gunner, pugilistThey want MC to be the healer supporter seeker
>>498418515Lying retard.The canonical classes are:MC: Whatever you wantHulkenberg: Knight and MageStrohl: Warrior and CommanderHeismay: Thief, Gunner, MerchantJunah: Base Class+FakerEupha: Base Class+SeekerSeventh Party Member: Base Class+Brawler>>498413506, build your characters like that and you're on the road to their Ultimate class
>>498418515Nah you want Strohl to go Commander tree not gunner for his tier 3 job
The story fell off so hard for me by the end. Feels so tiring just to keep going after the sky turns red
>>498418736If anything Strohl is the Merchant, it doesn't really fit anyone but atleast he is nobility like Hulk
>>498418916It's not about what fits, its about what they need to unlock their ultimate classes. Every characters ultimate class requires them to master their base Archetype and the Archetype for each I listed
>>498418772Personally, it feels like they want everyone to do every job as necessary. I had Strohl as a gunner even though it didn't work towards his final embodiment and it was really good when I needed pierce. I think the game is way too fucking stingy with the A-Exp. There needed to be more elementals in dungeons and rebalanced so that they give more a-exp then mag and gold.
>>498418772Strohl's high strength makes the gunner class feel really strong from the backline, considering how he's the only pure STR character you get, there's no way you're intended to give gunner to anyone else.
>>498419215He's not the only pure strength character you get but making the second one you get a Gunner with their base archetype and stat spread is retarded
Just punch niggas with your two Brawlers, it's that simple.
>>498419082I usually spend a bit of time grinding AP and money with merchant when I'm doing my circuit around the map doing requests and I get to an area where you can easily respawn a lot of one shottable enemies like the Goblin forest near Martira or the bird forest near Brilehaven
I even made my mage strlet mc a gunner and it seems fine so far, just get good gear and abuse the giga bullet synth
>>498420008Gunner is pretty nuts, also having a spammable Heavy attack at 20. Only held back by bows being weaker but you can just take Hex Shot into your strongest weapon class and back row them.
>Metaphor threads are not just /pol/ threads in disguiseSad state of affairs over on the other boards.
>>498420153The game is very political, and released right before the Burger elections. I don't think it operates on the praxis of American politics though. Namely, it sees equality and freedom as in conflict, and that a balance must be found between the two, whereas Murrican political thought sees them as the same (can't have one without the other).
When do I start dumping into STR? I just got the blonde girl
>mastered merchant>farm enemies >gives you archetype EXP seed>feed it to everyone else to level up their archetypesWhat's the worst that can happen?
>>498420541You want a mix of str/mag honesty because from what I seen your ultimate weapon is a hybrid of them
>can summon personas>defeated by bunch of savages with knotsthis is so stupid>>498420620nothing, that's the intended way
>gain 4 turn icons>chimera wing>chimera wing>chimera wing>cyclone>2-3 deadI can't take these obnoxious bullshit enemies anymore.
>>498420620Nothing, you don’t lose anything from it and just get more gold. That’s what I been doing for hours and it just works
>louis is evil>the church is evil>humans are evilso who the hell are the good guys???
>>498420708Oh ok, that's what I have been doing. Hope letting the game decide when I get EN and AG points doesn't end up fucking me in the ass later.
>>498419837I mean that's a lot of grinding I don't want to do. Merchant doesn't really give you bonus A-exp and money stops mattering after a while.
W Game
>>498420938Me. I am justice.
>>498420938Gallica
>squished into Merchant's pitsWho'd want that?
>>498420778get out of the front row nigga
>>498420746you retard, they turned themselves in. they're trying to get the spear without killing anyone, using archetypes on people without igniters is basically a death sentence.
>>498420746>they bothered to tie up Gallicakek
>>498421253Those are all magic attacks you stupid fuck.>inb4 why don't you have a drain wind skill to inherit
>>498420778What are you fighting ?
>>498420938
>>498421362Retard. It only does that because you have units in the front row.
>>498421295genuinely makes them smarter than louis btw
>>498420938>Man playing an SMT game for the first time.
>>498421425The giant bird in Eupha's trial sidequest.
>>498420938>Church = Law>Louise = ChaosDo you even SMT/Persona?
>>498420938Whoever you agree with the most
>>498421486Brigitta is just a tired office lady who's sick and tired of being used by other people so she became ruthless and cold but later opens herself to a dog and a cute young boy which makes her break down.
>>498421295Gallica actually doing cool stuff that a small flying fairy can do is actually really amazing because normally they just ignore it in other RPGs. I loved it when she pulled opened switches to get your out or spied on your behalf.
>>498421723That's all it takes.
>>498384775she'd never fuck him you cretin
>>498421723Her storyline is a fucking trip.
>>498421723Now bark.
Rate my build.
>>498422290Too much STR
>>498420938King and prince, it's shakespearean like ff15.
urban fantasy is better
Those little stops you make inbetween trips which are essentially just prerendered backgrounds is something more developers should just bring back. Even if you cant explore those places, it expands the world and makes it look bigger than it is, which is a good thing. Also it's gorgeous.
Wanna be Brigitta's dog, ngl
It's insane how bad some skillsets are for elite/advanced classesLike what the fuck is paladin
man the story sucks fucking ass during virga island, i literally dont care about ANY of this
>>498422501They did Lord of the Rings with niggers and it was bad though.
>>498422637It sucks even worse next town.
Coming fresh off daemon muramasa it's very nice to see more brown elf with white hair supremacy thank you atlus
>>498422613It has the best tanking skills in the game you retard, stop being a DPSfag
Reminder to wear protective equipment in dungeons.
>>498422520can you go back to the sights after you visited them? i forgot to get a screenshot of the tree of prophecy when I got there.
>>498422686what?
>>498422613Compare its Synthesis skills to Dark Knight and think about it some more.
>>498422697theres absolutely no way. isnt the last party member basilio? hes easily my favorite character
>>498423032yeah anon is a lying fuck. the town after virga island is fucking peak.
>Want to do a mage build>Gallica's bond is tied to story progression and you literally can't get Tier 3 Mage until a month before the game is overWhy the fuck would they do this?
Okay am I fucking stupid? It looks like Dragoons magic even though the stats and the whole line are phys??
>>498423194next town is asspull after asspull after asspull. magnus brothers were great but the story starts to fall apart from next town.
Pikuxe
>>498423713Cool story bro.
>unlock eupha>shes level 41>party is level 46typical rpg moment, cant do side stuff before main stuff or you become overpowered. amazing.
>>498422735I'm on hard and getting better tanking skills is not even needed, I used it most in first dungeon now it's just faceroll damage
Yeah I've rarely had to even use Attack debuffs. There are a few fights where I've felt the need to cast Shelter a few times, but not many. And before that I used Marakukaja a handful of times. It's the standard problem of it costing a lot of turns to maintain all these buffs.
>>498422837I won't be needing protective equipment in her dungeon if you catch my drift
All these other candidates and their insane extremist views are fucking hilarious.
>>498420536Amerimutt elections and the failure of AAA Western titles like Concord have emboldened doomposters unfortunately. Funnily enough when rumors of the cracked copy came a few hours ago, you have all these people asking about it in one /v/ thread. It gives credence to /pol/ and /v/ being poorfag hues and SEAniggers; its all about "principles" until you can play it for free.
>have to use the accessory slot for masks>can't swap them mid battle like a wild cardMasked dancer is kind of lame. The benefit of being able to swap masks is already covered by being able to swap archetypes.
Not being able to change archetypes in battle is really fucking wack
>>498422720Sexual intercourse with a man sized spider.
>>498424752One wants to just be a warmonger, one wants zero taxs and to drink, and another just wants to sell stuff. A lot of them are fucking retarded and others are smart with it
>>498425281it wouldn't make much sense
Eat, Sleep, Metaphor, repeat.That's all I'm doing right now and im 35 hours into the game. I havent been engrossed in a video game in years. Just one more side dungeon, just one more bond to level up, just one more side thing to do and 8 hours passes just like that.
>>498425484My favorite is the guy who wants to aggressively tax the young for the prosperity of the old.
ngl I was expecting the game to be a bit more political than it is (at least for me rn), it's basically just anti-racism vs pro-racism with a bit of like... theocracy thrown in there
>>498425894I wish I didn't have to work.
chocolate fairy feet...
>>498426025This game is less woke than Final Fantasy X, people are just retarded.
>>498426025>ngl I was expecting the game to be a bit more political than it isI don't know why you would expect that if you've played persona
>>498426025It's just law, chaos, neutral SMT style but except with politics.
>>498426025Its literally just a paint by the nunbers fantasy racism theme that a dozen JRPGs have covered before, it just so happens to come out at an unfortunate time and angered goty tribalists.
>>498426159I haven't played Persona.
>>498426205Holy fuck. This game is another SMT. I was so fooled by the persona art style I didn't even notice.
>>498425894I'm playing 8 hours a day on average and if I didn't have have any classes to attend I would pass out on my chair
>charadrius dungeon>kill bosses in 3 turns or less>hard modeim gonna frickin scream
>>498426545You must be 18 to use this website.
>>498426424I think they draw influence from just about all their RPGs over the past 20-30 years, even the Raidou action games get a little bit of a nod in the overworld encounter system.
>>498426615noooo adults can't go back to school!
I missed the debate with roger. it's all over....
>>498426997They don't come back?What do you get for beating them all?
>>498426596learn to build your characters right
I’m no foot fag but that fucking fairy waving her bare feet in my face has to be intentional
Will lineage’s >seeker >mage >gunner >merchantStrohl lineage’s>warrior>brawler >berserker in endgameHulkenberg lineage’s>knight>healer >warrior Heisman lineage’s>gunner>ninja >fakerAm I doing it right? Now that I’ve finally got some of the base jobs mastered grinding seems much easier 32 hours in
>>498426750You have 20 year old students at your high school?
>>498427196I cant when none of them have good magic stats because the game decides MC must be magic early game or else. I said fuck that
do ailments never go away on their own?
These final knight classes are pretty fucking cool looking
>>498407595The cure for paripus racism is good paripussy.
For you perfectly balanced anons out there.>Pick Luck>Invest into primarily into Str/Mag/Agi/End>Skimp on 6 End and 1 Agi which you will put into Luck instead>Take shits on Idlesday when it opens upIf you do it properly, you'll have 73 in every stat but Luck which has 57 + Idlesday bonuses when all archetypes are maxed in your unique class by Level 96. This is of course before gear.
Hey I just hit 30, does this game ever hit hard again or does the infinite money just completely break the game?
>>498427551
>>498427654Did you do the charadrius dungeon yet? They dont hit hard but its hard cause you have to win fights in 3 turns
>>498427502They do in combat eventually, not sure about in the overworld, but it's not hard to swap to Healer and cast Patra.
>>498427654On hard just one single critical or misplaced skill use can end lead to a game over
>>498427551blood for the blood god?
>>498427654The Etrian Odyssey dungeon you go to with Eupha is really brutal, especially if you don't grind up first.
>>498383994i feel like i should like this gamei played smt 3-5 and persona 2-5yet now im playing the prologue demo to see how it isand im instantly bored, i just beat up fatty mc Klinger in the mine and got the archetype for eyepatch guy.does it get better later on? does the story pick up? i can see collecting all the archetypes be fun.also i feel like the 3d models and textures look kinda outdated, like something youd see in fire emblem 3 houses is the first thing that came to my mind
>>498428139Yes, early-game is always the worst part of Persona games.
Are any of the dlcs worth it? I know it’s just costumes I’m not a big fan of the current default outfits and I’d like to switch it up but I see they are mostly just persona school outfits?
>>498427975huh, I spent like 10 turns burned. guess it was just bad luck.
this shit worth my entire net worth?
>>498427485is your worldview 100% influenced by japanese media?
>>498427232The canonical classes are:MC: Whatever you wantHulkenberg: Knight and MageStrohl: Warrior and CommanderHeismay: Thief, Gunner, MerchantJunah: Base Class and FakerEupha: Base Class and SeekerSeventh Member: Base Class and BrawlerThese are the only ones you need to master (their elite versions) for their Ultimate classes. Beyond that its up to you
>>498428139Play it until the election start at least.Starting dungeon is whatever.
>>498428381You can get it 30% off on the 29th, or 20% off before then. Links in this game don't cost much cash, so you're pretty free to spend money on gear, just make sure you have a lot of restoratives.
Do stats matter that much? Can you brick your build? I’m going with Mag and Str
>>498428139I felt similar but after 30 hours I'm liking it a lot.
>>498428483is that included in the demo?i dont want to spend 70 bucks to gamble on a game
>>498428139Play it until the 2nd main dungeon thats when you start traveling on your own without tutorials and shit
>>498428682the demo last 3 days,,you more than enough time to test the game,so go for it.
>>498428878wait what do you mean it lasts 3 days?also i checked the steam page and apparently the demo includes the first 4 dungeons
>>498428102At least there's enemies that drop magla pills (and like 5 spawners that infinitely spawn them). You can easily replenish mp by just equipping thief and farming them for their drops
>>498428656Certainly not by investing in STR and MAG. The only brick I could see would be investing in AGI which is a fucking worthless stat that does nothing.
>>498428656Weapons/Armor do most of the work and some accessories give nonsensical bonuses like +15 in a stat for free. There's also no reason to have more than 80 in Str/Mag/End/Agi or 81 Luck inherently.
>>498429131you are given 3 days to roam around and do want you want in daily/night cycle part of the game
>>498429458and luck
>2 merchants>Enemy rare drops are still extremely low drop rate despite my MC being luck build.driving me insane.
>>498429754Just steal them nigga
>>498428656In terms of stat usefulness str/mag > end/agi > luck.You kinda brick yourself by not levelling at least 1 damage stat.
i really hate how catherina and neuras are only available whenever you progress the story. i just want brawler and gunner to be good but holy shit i already have access to a bunch of tier 3 archetypes and those ones are still locked behind 4 ranks of the correlating slink
>>498427151There's an achievement for winning every debate.Also I think if you do it + beat their runner fight they drop out and your rank increases more. Lina dropped out after I fought her, but after I beat Roger he just whined and the MC thought to himself "I need him to give up, but I can't do it by force"
>>498429820I don't have a thief and I don't want to waste time going back to this place once I get one.
>>498414784It gets stuck on the gauntlet runner when you have to open the map to travel to do sidequests.
>>498429871>BrawlerBrawler is the only Phys class with HP-sourced skills in a game where it's cheap as hell, has a Synthesis skill that clears most encounters for the entirety of the game and Pugilist comes with physical coverage, vital DEF debuffs and it still has a suped up Light move to get around Phys Null. Pugilist does start falling off a bit when you access the last of the other Archetypes and Catherine is still locking your shit, but it's coming off of owning over half of the game's face and always having access to some of the best weapons. Just transfer some skills over.>GunnerBase 20 Gunner has access to a Heavy damage move while everyone else is using Light, need I say more?
Do you get anything for fighting the baby monster 10 times when its still all shadowy and called "???"
>>498431219a Health Incense each time you defeat it, I didn't bother
>>498430495I dont trust when a skill says "heavy damage" since I have light damage attacks that do the same damage
>>498423497 Summoner is a lot stronger. You only need tier 3 mages for hyper and passives.
>check mods>whatsapp outfit for Gallicabut why?
>>498431432It could be shit, I haven't tested it. Am a simple Fist man, but on paper Gunner looks good. Are you using it from the back row?
>>498428656Mag is the meta pick early. Your first two party members are Str based and the third is an agi speed demon. MC is going to main mage a lot. Don't neglect agi though, you want enough to be able to push yourself to where you want in the turn order. A slow mage that goes last is less useful than a fast mage even if they hit for slightly less.
what kind of name is fucking Hulkenberger
>>498430495my biggest gripe with brawler is>only 2 synthesis skills>all of the strike attacks scale with how full your hp is and the damage falls off rapidly after using it once if you're not at full health again>pugilist learns strike boost but wait its best attack is a fucking pierce movegod this shit is so cursed, atlus was so terrified of physical skills using hp being too overpowered and it fucking shows
>>498431813I really can't blame them, I have had a breeze with a double Brawler party for the entirety of the game up to getting additional party members. Even now it's still great but I can see the better potential with the new party members, plus unique classes are on the horizon which will naturally creep these options out anyway. That would be the thing that makes me sad, I think. Also the passives/actives on Brawler T3 are pathetic.
>>498414168Frog was the first parallel I thought of, too
>>498431813I'm pretty sure only perfect punch scales. Skull cracker does the same damage regardless of hp.
>>498432076This, skull cracker spam is good once you dont have max hp
>>498432076>>498432158read >>498429871when you're at the point of getting tier 3 archetypes skull cracker is basically useless.
>>498420536I wish Metaphor went harder on the politics and culture just to piss off people.
>>498432408That's great and all but that's not what I was replying to.
>>498431801The game is about winning a race, innit?https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FfoUQvMRY94
>>498432559>what I expected>deep discussion on politics in a RPG setting>what I got>save the world JRPG with politics as a dressing
>>498432876Did anyone find verstappen yet?
>first and second class give you crit buffs and make you think you'll get some awesome crit buff for your final class>final class has nothing to do with crits
I feel like being able to inherit 4 skills is just a recipe to create a completely broken job archetype but I dont know how to break the system yet.
>>498433064He was too busy playing in his racing simulator to make a cameo, maybe he'll appear in the enhanced version of Metaphor in 3 years.
>>498428381no armor sucks you wont feel a difference, weapons matter though
So are basic archetypes always easy to level or do they scale in xp needed based on how many you have levelled up?
>>498428381Get it on idlesday.It's a great piece because armor that boosts stats aside from end is pretty rare.You'll find an agi booster and one with tweaked out evasion a bit later, both are nice to have.
Did people already find the best way to increase each royal virtue?
>>498420536It's a disgrace right now. It's funny how the more the US wants to be "respected again" the rest of the world watches with increasing disdain and sees an unstable dysfunctional mess that should not be trusted or relied on.
>>498432967Where's the mole? That's like the sexiest part of her design.
I had no MP issue because wizard passive on MC + Junah giving us 10 mp every turn with auto-tarukaja accessory made it irrelevant but trying to imagine if I didn't have that would be popping all the MP consumesfinally a long dungeon
>>498433760Going for debates with other canidates nets you 4 eloquence and a pity imagination. With bonuses for winning, plus money.Bounties give you adequate courage, once you really need a lot of courage you get colossieum fights that you can do for both day parts that give you 4 courage, basically two bounties in one dayBooks give you decent 4 points, and finishing it gives you extra. You always have days to read on the runner.
>>498433760Game is designed with experience from persona games where you can no longer waste your days doing nothing. You will always be increasing your royal virtues by doing something on the ship or in the town or by doing side quests. Just dont worry about it and play the game.
>>498428381How are you guys not absolutely swimming in money? Mabye thats why I feel like the game is so easy while other anons complain, does the game keep selling these "overpowered but giga expensive" armors or do they eventually stop?
>>498434370People who arent swimming in money probably never used the merchant archetype.
People are joking when they're saying they killed the human level 60 boss worm at level 30-40 right? Even with full defense/evasion up and him debuffed he can take 50-60% of your party health in 1 turnIf he burrows and you don't dodge you'll even get fucked with max def and guarding
I can't believe Will used Gallica as an onahole...
>Fly's in front of your face>"Yikes... there's no way out of this!"Evil Gallica...
>>498434526The no romance thing makes me feel bad for my lad will let him fuck SOMETHING
So what exactly are the parts that cant be done in 1 playthrough according to the devs?
>>498383994Any party comp tips for early on? In the first dungeon and im struggling to decide what team comp. I have a healer I probably could just make a mage with some skill inheritance, and a warrior I have using the brawler strike skill so I only need to use healing items instead of MP.
Is it just me or are there way more enemies that only have a single weakness in this game than SMT or Persona?
>>4984337021 to 2 will always be the exact same exp required. That never changes. How many you get doesn't change anything.
>>498434526This is why I always keep a spare balm of life
>Start playing>See Ariadne ThreadsDo we get actual EO references or is it just minor stuff? No indepth spoilers please.
>>498434636I just headcanon the harem end. It wouldn't be unfitting given the context of the story and the character relationships.
>>498435434Healer/Warrior/Knight honestly was enough to get me through the first dungeon on hard. For the tougher enemies, I just spammed the thrust synthesis attack with Knight to do a ton of damage and reduce defense. And then heal as needed
>>498435434If you got the dragon sword healer/warrior/brawler will destroy the cathedral. You'll just want to swap to mage or knight for certain fights
>>498435434Mage with heal or healer with elemental spells, knight, warrior with brawler skills should be easy
>>498435434Archetype system is so lenient that you're supposed to be swapping party comps depending on what enemies you're gonna face. Just play around with it, there are no bad choices early on.
>>498435615Yea there's a EO easter egg later on.
>>498435434Try Merchant/Merchant/Merchant
anyone fuck around with the draw distance? if so what you change it to? not a stickler for graphics at all btw
>>498436415You can unlock that before going into the dungeon?
>>498436709Yes. You can either proceed with the cathedral or you can take the Merchant sidequest dungeon. Make sure you have wisdom level 2 to start it
>>498436415does merchant/merchant/merchant passives stack?
>>498434521They want you to play on storyteller mode because you get 3 times the exp or 2 times, so you would over leveled and it hits like a baby
I can’t play this game for more than 30 min at a time because my intrusive thoughts of raping the fairy get in the way
>>498437093Yeah. you can also inherit warrior and brawler passives to do more damage and more crits.
I might want to stop getting Luck eventually since I get free luck 6 times a month
>>498437314I did not know that, guess I'll have to test it out later then.
100MP to steal 1000 Mag, kinda useless. I assume it's a LOT better against bosses.
>>498437408Did you go all in on luck? How much more loot does it really give?
>>498437408bricked jesus christ
Strohl's color scheme is amazing on magic seeker
>>498437621It seems to be a multiplier so it really shines on common drops, I'd say common drops are like 2/3 of a chance.
>>498437314>>498437425The passives are probably the best skills to inherit. I inherited some of the merchant passives onto MC Mage so I can grind for MP and rare items at the same time.
>Morgana>annoying as fuck mascot>Gallica>literally the best girl in the gameHow did they do it?
Holy shit Heismay really wants to genocide every paripus and no one can tell him anything
>>498438243You went inside morgana. You can't say that about gallica
sex with my fairy wife
>>498438582NEW THREADNEW THREAD
>>498403350It's actually so fucking cool that they make you fight things from The Garden of Earthly Delights
>>498438243Heismay is also x100 better as an animal companion.
>>498433843>>>/pol/ Go and stay go subhuman
kinda curious, i don't want to do the boss fight again but when you meet louis for the first time, what happens if you pick the other choices or don't help glodell? I can't imagine that the game will let you pick these options but I'm curious how the cutscenes play out
>>498403350>>498438632That's a lot of homos.
>>498439438You will never be respected
>>498438546But she's so small!
F O E! F O E! F O E!
>>498439760I don't know about other choices but choosing to leave Glodell causes the party to railroad you and say that they have to do it
>>498438243Her feet
>>498439438Based
>>498433095The almighty physical attack can crit.
