Previous thread >>498438582>Now available EVERYWHERE (but nintendo switch and xbox one)>Metaphor: ReFantazio Special Soundtrackhttps://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_kT8go1ScWljmvHOjpzywgsnV1fI036Ovg>Metaphor: ReFantazio peaks at 85k concurrent players on Steam!>Metaphor: ReFantazio surpasses 1m sales on launch day>Kino Commercialhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MDDTdS9rRdA>How many hours have you played?>What day are you on?>What are your favorite classes?>Favorite BGM?>Are you having fun?
>>498512145Based
>>498512145And cool
So what are all the main dungeons?>Regalith>Martira Castle>CHADradrius>Dragon Temple>Opera House>PalaceAnything else?
Dragoon looks cool as hell
I'm mad at you guys for meming me into all luck
>>498512145metaphor taste so good when you ain't got a bitch in your ear telling you it's woke
>>498512254nope it's always the magic amulet
Can you buy a Lord of the Lake in later towns, cause its not in Altabury and I do need one for a recipe.
Is Utopia by Thomas More actually worth reading?
Woke taste so good when you ain't got a bitch in your ear telling you it's cringe
>>498512476Man the criticisms about this game being woke are the most fucking non entity bullshit fucking things I've ever seen. Same with the Silent Hill remake. Woke as a word has absolutely lost all meaning.
>just unlocked the last party memberfuck im nearing the end, arent i? i really dont want it to end bros....
>>498512776I'm taking as long as I can because there's nothing else to play afterIn fact I don't think I will play anything until DQ3HD
>>498512776you'd need to play NG+ to get all the cheevs anyways
>>498512857>playing HD2D slop
>>498512867What's exclusive to NG+? Or is it just that there isn't enough time to do everything in one playthrough?
>>498512776This game moves in such a way I can probably just replay it forever I love how we don't just go from dungeon to dungeon anymore, each arc is a different thing or more precisely a different callback to a dead or dying Atlus franchise I just wish you could actually explore the Mage Academy This is a game that actually deserves a DLC expansion and a little cleanup in a couple parts towards the end unlike shitload
>Brigitta's follower questline That's a darn shame. I will do what I must I suppose. I am now Brigitta's dog, a please take care of me.
I want to fuck Paripuses AND Eugiefs
So now that more people are finishing the game, and the initial people who bumrushed it through the weekend thought of the game as "safe, uninspired, meh not one of atlus best" are you agreeing with that sentiment or disagreeing?
>>498513236I wish the structure wasn't so linear. You could do alot more with>X months to get more popular, explore the map in any direction as you please and uncover the storyWhile still letting people stumble upon all the big setpiece dungeons/towns. You could still have the "people are gathering at X location on Y days" but wouldn't have to adhere to it so directly. Would make people's playthroughs alot different but that is not the type of game they make
>>498513236Game is wall to wall kino only real issue with it is how it bumrushes from getting the last party member to the last section of gameplay
>>498513415>>498513457I'm talking more about the story hehe
>>498513236It didn’t fully sell me until matira, and even then it’s supposed to get even better
>>498512350Opera House isnt a dungeon, it takes like 10 minutes to complete
SO GOOD https://youtu.be/_tFHnexrQ6E
>>498513457Funny since that was kind of an issue with P5 as well. Haru joins and then the plot goes into overdrive. It's almost like Hashino doesn't know what to do when the party is fully assembled aside from go all in on the plot. I think even P4 suffered from the same thing because after Naoto properly joins then the stakes change.
>>498512776NG should have ended on a bad ending, then you get the real game in NG+ and recruit the ship and all companions after the prologue
>>498513672I can understand it. You get your party assembled, time for them to kick into gear and get shit done.
playing metaphor makes me want to try one piece, for some reason
>>498513415It's kind of impossible to do that with the time management gimmick cause you need to assume people do shit to progress the plot by certain dates. Which honestly is kind of a reason I think this game should have just done away with the time management entirely. I don't think this game really needed to have time limits.
>>498513672It doesn't have nearly as much impact on P5 as it does on this game, all in all the Mage Academy Ruins just needed to be a dungeon and then there needed to be a playable section right after the Altabury deadline boss and it would go from good to great
>>498513415If you're free to go anywhere but events still happen on specific dates, it would presumably be possible to just accidentally miss enough events that it became impossible to win without loading a save from 40 hours ago, and they're not quite that mean
>>498513672>>498513789>>498514005Kind of makes me wonder if this game will get the P5R treatment. Remember that game added another act at the end.
>>498513834I actually think it belongs here more than anywhere. You’re participating in a. High stakes contest with a set prize. It wouldn’t make any sense for anyone to allow it to drag out as long as they wanted. It’s supposed do or die time.
Should i keep abusing the Merchant bonus on the endlessly spawning skeletons in the first dungeon? It's so tempting.
>>498514074They're abandoning that model, so if we get something it'll be DLC I almost want them to come up with an unrelated late/post-game story which would be easier to design but I would not turn down updates that add more to the endgame like BG3
>>498514074It’s pretty conclusive and wrapped up. >inb4 so was persona 5This is much more of a self contained set piece
>>498514060I think if you made it to main path, no side quests or side dungeons, made you extremely high popularity it could even out if someone did all side quests and side dungeons possible but missed out on event dates
>>498514074I've read that Atlus is planning to move away from their enhanced editions in favor of doing DLC, and I feel like Metaphor would be a good title to test that theory out on since I think it has likely already exceeded Atlus's internal expectations for sales. Studio Zero probably also wouldn't mind working on something smaller scale while they plan out their next project which hopefully won't take 7 years this time, but I will not hold my breath on that.
>>498514219>>498514273>>498514435Kind of makes me want to hold off on finishing it in case they release DLC. I probably wouldn't be wiling to put an extra playthrough into it if I already 100%'d it. I had the same issue with P5 royal. I beat the base game twice and to this day still have not found the motivation to finish it.
>Build magic mc>Get cucked out of ultimate archetypeIt's over magic bros...
what level are you supposed to fight the minotaur side quest boss ati got throught the dungeon, am level 12, and most enemies are now overworld oneshotsbut the boss itself still oneshots my party
>>498514869>Get the ultimate archetype>Get the actual ultimate archetype immediately after No problems here
>>498514602I just hope they don't wait like a year before announcing anything. If they are going to do DLC I want to know about it early.
>>498514960I beat it at 10use your brain
>How many hours have you played?29:41>What day are you on?9/10>What are your favorite classes?Brawler, Dark Knight, Masked Dancer>Favorite BGM?Nothing stands out other than Labyrinth 5's theme which is cheating. I do like the OST, just doesn't blow me away.>Are you having fun?Yeah!
>>498515145Microsoft, so far, has had all the marketing rights and there is a Partner showcase in a few days but it also feels like it is far too early for Atlus to want to say anything.
>>498514960Beat him at level 11 on Hard, used magic items (especially ice) and spammed Hulk's Synthesis.
>>498514435the next dlc will be smtvv dlc
I'm loving these real world storytime sections
>>498515402Man I'm on August and have like 40 hours how did you get to September so fast?
>>498514074P5R may have added another chapter, but it doesn't really change things because it's a completely separate story.
>>498515432>>498515397i guess i just got a different version of the gameeven with tripple attack down on him he still 2 shots my party with aoesand the charge aoe still half lifes my party even at everyone back row with guard up
Should I be putting points into Agi or Luck on level up if I'm going for a Str/Mag hybrid build? Is a hybrid build even good in this game? I get that hybrid builds tend to be shit in the other games, but it feels like it might actually work in this game?
What have you done with your party, /meta/?>Level 47, about to enter 5th dungeon>MCPhys MC, grabbed Merchant T2 crit passive, then stuck in Pugilist for a long time, then I went into the Dark Knight line for Pierce Boost and Heavy Phys access.>StrohlBenched after I got other party members, though I could bust him out and he'd do fine as a Pugilist with minimal investment, which is what he stuck as along with MC. Will have to see what his unique class has to offer. Had a Medi inherit.>Hulk-chanAlso benched, but she was my Mage for a long time, and thus she has the pre-reqs for some of her stuff, so maybe she'll get picked back up later. Also had a Medi inherit.>HeismayBuff/debuff specialist, currently has Faker mastered and is sitting in General also mastered. Didn't feel the need to give him a heal yet but that would be nice. Also carries around Steal.>JunahFelt like the only thing she needed was a Healer inherit plus her pre-reqs for her next class, so that's what she is sitting on. Works great.>EuphaShe also has pre-reqs for her next class plus a Medica inherit, but I also went into Wizard so she could have some cheap weakness targeting stuff since Summoner can be a bit hungry on SP.Not sitting on much Archetype EXP at the moment but I feel like all my bases are well covered. In the future I'll probably be interested in getting another buffer/debuffer just for a back-up, but we're really waiting for further Archetype unlocks over here mostly.
>>498513236I think it's good but still "not one of atlus best". I was pretty over it around the last dungeon.
>>498516030>Charge AoEJust poke it and it won't do the charge attack. And i'd say take it slow and leave the offensive to Hulk alone, and maybe Knight MC. And have Strohl use magic items if you have any. Otherwise the two boys should take back row and guard most of the time.
>we can't recall up the lance and run away, people might notice!Fucking how, or even, who the fuck cares?
Which archetype has pierce boost passive?
>>498516639Dark Knight has 20%
Why is basilio even in louis' gang? He's too innocent for this
>>498516695damn that's a lot of grinding, it's just my MC is pugilist but most of the time I'm just spamminig power thrust because the strike skill one deals less damage after each use
It been so long since playing persona memory's fuzzy. Does every follower conversation that passes time contribute towards increasing that followers rank?Like I've had a couple conversations with strohl with the courage icon over his head and I'm not sure if those were just for boosting courage.
>>498516905Followers rank always go up, they don't have "exp bar" anymoreThose little conversations are meant to increase your virtue, nothing more
>>498516887Yeah, it's extremely expensive, but well worth it if you're Phys MC I think.
>>498516905It been so long since playing persona memory's fuzzy. Does every follower conversation that passes time contribute towards increasing that followers rank?In Persona you have a hidden affection bar you need to max before you can go up a level. They don't have that anymore. Now you just get the level straight up.
>>498516905Follower's Rank will always go up. There is no XP to it, but the stat increases are just meant to be stat increases but they did a little thing where it also gives some more in-sight into the characters.
>just started the game>get to akademia>hear this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3qF7sm6CkyEsounds like civ music in my persona I like it
Feels good to be a STR chad Atlus always rewards
>>498516780He initially looked like the serious and stoic type but it didnt take long for him to act pretty jolly especially around Junah
>Using the 100% guide>it sucks>makes you go into dungeons out of order, doing high leveled difficult content before easy grinding dungeons >makes you fight a level 60 monster when you’re mid 30’s>Doesn’t tell you half the time when you hit the rank up for social stats to realize if you desynced>Doesn’t tell you what you need your social stats FOR so you’ll hit random blockades with no time to rewind and fix things>assumes you’re playing on Storyteller>assumed you’re doing an absurd level of grinding (guide told me I should have multiple 3rd tier archetypes for More’s request, which is only possible if you have BOTH of Hulk’s 3rd tier knight ones unlocked (which requires 10 levels in Wizard and 20 in Magic Knight) , because you can’t get the MC, Heismay , Junah and Eupha’s yet due to Follower rank locks>despite these hyper specific grind requirements it never tells you to do anything in advance, it just says randomly “oh yeah, turn in More’s request, you’ll have that sorted by now”I hope someone makes a better written and more realistically optimized guide soon, I’m pissed I have to rewind to before a dungeon in order to grind up 20 levels of Archetype EXP on Hulk just so I can get Heismay’s Elite Archetype.
>>498517306i never get people who go magic in megaten games unless it's for "fun" but people act like STR is never viable and i mean like lmao??? SMT 1 and SMT 2 you can ONLY use STR
>>498517382The guides are about doing everything. They assume playing on easiest difficulty
>>498517382rpgsite's guide is fine enough, I've been following it and I've had no trouble.
>>498517396who even says that?the only game where str didnt feel like it was the best was IV just because dex was overpowered. Every other game and str is the clear choice
>>498517382Honestly, you might as well desync now and try to follow the guide for "social stats". It is pretty ass on how they decide to give you a week free in the end. RPGSite looks better though but I dunno how unsynced I'll be switching guides.
>>498517558Well yeah, STR in SMT4 affects skills half as much as DEX in exchange for...wow, working on melee normal attacks better. Amazing. There is no STR build in SMT4, just DEX, MAG or LUK.
>>498517306Have you been putting all of your level up points into strength or did you also put some into En, Ag, or Lk?
The whole opera house section was fucking dumb>not one time did Eupha try to recall the lance when Forden "had" itFeels extremely forced
>>498517558people playing on easy/normal kek
>>498517692You can start investing a bit into other stats when you have like 60-70 STR because at that point you'll be nearing the cap from all your Archetype + gear boosts.
The game really rushes after the opera house, there should have been at least a dungeon before you fought the boss at the academy of magic Pacing feels kinda wrong, they should have given you time to build and grind the new companion you got before the next fight and to pace out all the revelations and changes of heart everyone has
>>498517692I just did all STR until i was 99 with boosts then started on other stats. Feels good doing 16k+ when buffed and enemies debuffed kek lmao
>>498517175I suddenly want an atlus RTS/4X game. Law vs Demonic vs Pagan vs Humans could be fun factions
>>498517382I learned my lesson from PowerPyx's P3R guide which was shit.
Does the last dungeons force party members to be in the fight, or can I just focus on 4 people from September onwards? Cause I have no interest in leveling up all these new people
>>498517790>>498517915Would it be dumb to put all of the excess points into Lk? Or do you just split the points evenly between En, Ag, and Lk once your Str gets to a good point?
>>498518420Weirdly enough that's what I have been doing personally is just putting the rest into Luck since the other stats don't feel like I need them as much overall so far even though im on hard mode nothing hurts me enough
why the fuck is there not a dungeon between the Louis boss battle and the Rella dragon boss battle? they could have set up an entire week or so building to killing her because its so rushed I feel absolutely nothing in that cutscene
>>498518087Really? I remember using it for my merciless run and I was able to streamline some stuff but otherwise nothing really difficult. This iteration though is fucking retarded for the mentions OP said.
>>498517732And Louis' survival and spear switcheroo was just outright dumb
im only at the cathedral dungeonbut im already disappointed theres only really one track of music for the town no matter where you are, shops or street, day or nightatlus has fallen....
>>498518865Zorba gets zombies to carry his dead body, but then who brings him back to life? If someone else can do it for him, why not Forden? That whole stretch feels like they got told to wrap it the fuck up
>>498518420I'll dump mine into LU because hit-rate and survivability will be covered by buffs/debuffs. Might as well have slightly more crit chance. Also helps with physical multi-hits.
>>498518970Retard
>>498518970fantasy setting
so the battle system is just a job based system?
>>498519014doesnt mean they have to use one song for everything....remember the iconic shop themes from persona 5?
>>498517732Retard
4th dungeon is absolute fucking kino, I forgive Fatlus for not making EO6 yet
Which stats and build do you go with?
Game is woke garbage with nonsense story
>>498519169Cant wait for EO6 being a huge PC launch and scaring all the normies with cunny
>>498519231Dump all your points into STR or MAG. I think STR is better but both are perfectly viable. MAG might be a bit grindier since STR eventually has your main DPS fueling themselves with HP instead of SP, and HP is much easier to restore.
>tfw you fell for the Luck meme
>>498519249you got lost on the way to /v/ tranny discord raider, we actually discuss videogames here
>>498519169This game is both P6 and EO6 at the same time
>>498519231I went with str/mag hybrid since that's what MC's ultimate class uses
No reason not to put your party at back as the default formation right?
There's definitely enough story to get the game to December like usual but they just fucked the fuck and fucked dykes
>>498519231Mag, so far it’s pretty good and people say it’s good in late game as well
>>498519683I think there are some trinkets and skills that buff you if you're on the front lines, so you could start the battle off with buffs for that one party member if you keep them there. You only get them late game though
hows performance on the steamdeck after the full release, third party mods and proton updates?My general standards are at least 40fps but I can deal with 30fps with no drops. Resolution scaling isnt going below 100.
>>498519683I just turned on formation save in options. No way I'm manually changing formation every time I change class.
>>498519683It's almost always better to be in the back row if you aren't attacking with a melee skill. Just can be tedious to swap all the time.
>>498519118True. for games set in a fantasy setting i usually keep my expectations low in terms of their soundtracks being unique, but even then i have some favorites from this game that i added to my VIDEO GAME OST playlist that arent battle themes.
>>498519945Reddit gif
>rest places don't recover MPNice game atluskeks
the dragon just standing there watching the entire time?
>>498520160>a game chiefly about resource management asks me to manage my resources!
holy fuck man, why is the game so sympathetic towards Joanna when she has kidnapped and killed children? The writers at Atlus are insane
>>498520181Dragon just wants to give them space come on now anon
>>498520003Dragon Temple is comfy
>>498519273>>498519169The dungeon traversal and party building kind of reminds me of EO in a good way funnily. Though thats also because that might be my only frame of reference considering I have never played SMT nor Persona
I wish Fabienne was a supporter instead of Maria. I'm tired of hearing her whine about shit.
>>498520295I dropped the game after this
>>498520295In the ideal world there is no prejudice against child killers.
>>498519231I went with MAG early on since I needed a mage and the first couple party members are all physical focused but then swapped to dumping into STR later.
>>498520295>strohl with joanna: "okay i forgive you">strohl with louis: "UHHH FUCK YOU"what the fuck is going on here kek
The power of a vagina. Women can't be evil, apparently.
>you unlock the "joke" class early on (merchant)>it's mandatory to level it asap because it gives extremely unique bonuses that scale infinitely with time and cannot be acquired anywhere elseI fucking hate this shit
>>498520181it's an anime game, if the character isn't on the screen right now it doesn't exist. if you are noticing this now you might be pissed off at some scenes later
wtf so I dont have enough blessed water because I didnt abuse stealing from mimics? Now I need to find one again.
>>498521005at least she is publically executed, but I would have preferred putting my sword through her head myself. They really should have given an explanation that we want to kill her, but it would be dangerous to kill such a high ranking member of the church so we decide to deliver her for execution instead instead of sympathising with the cunt
>>498520695you whined more about maria more than her crying about her dad.
>>4985211895th city has a town that sells 20/10/5? blessed graced and whatever waters
>>498517382You fucked up and chose the wrong guide. This one is so much better.https://www.rpgsite.net/guide/16304-metaphor-refantazio-100-follower-bond-rank-walkthrough
>using a guide your first time through a gameYou all disgust me.
I took 10 hours to fully do the dragon dungeon because it's so goddamn massive including some grinding. I'm exhausted completely and I dont want to go to another dungeon anymore.
>>498521150How is it a joke classIt lets you just brute force anything with almighty attacks super early in the game, but in exchange you have to spend money on it
>Enemies target the same unit twice>diesWhy did I play on Hard again
>he's playing on hard
>>498522056it's a joke class just like battle classes that use musical instruments and scientific tools are joke classes
>want to buy game>steam keeps giving me errors
The dragon temple is gonna make me scream and shit myself
>>498522275This shit is hard AF. Fucking rock lions are dicking my anus.
>>498522268Clearly it's a sign you should buy it from the official marketing partner, Xbox, where it is cross-buy with PC
>>498521005Louis needed to give Strohl a sob story and puppy dog eyes
>>498521150im tempted to make my party hulkenberg, strohl and basilio and give them all the crit passive for full on world of strength but that'd totally break the game and it'd eat all of my aexp items
IU wish you got to nearly fully explore every major town in this game, I wanna just walk around the streets and take in the comfy atmosphere and architecture, maybe Atlus will make a more explorable sequel in the future, especially since this title sold so well
>turns out you were the special snowflake all alongWould it be so bad to have just one broke nigger peasant to king story played straight
>>498517382Anyone who using Powerpyx guide, is it still doable on hard or are we fucked?
Explain this homo(heh) for me, does the fire color represent something?
>mom can we have Makoto, Yukari, Yu and Kasumi in our game>we already have those at home>those characters at home
>>498520295Cause her insanity was born of her getting fucked over pretty bad. But I mean, they lead her to get publicly executed after she shown clear remorse and willingness to repent. As a person she could've become better even though everyone agrees she'd gone too far already so there was no way to truly exonerate her.
>new gold beetles appear in towns late game>some scenery moves to reveal hidden gold beetles in shopsGoddamnit
>>498522656do you really want to play a game like that
>>498522973The onahole is Aigis though
>>498522969It seems to be the opposite of that color is what it wont resist, e.g. red for fire wont resist ice. When it cycles back through colors you've seen it will remember what it does and doesnt resist for that color when you inspect thankfully though
Is Eupha probably the only party member thats around MC's age? Maybe younger even
>>498523153what about physical damage? you just have to guess?
>>498522969this boss is a massive pain in the butt if you dont have almighty moves lying around.
>>498523238yea Im not entirely sure how it works most of the time, I think white means you can phsy hit it?
>finally, a boss that uses barriers!>break hammers don't workWhat's even the point?
The whole opera thing was so dumb
As much as I like SMT, I feel like they went way more creative with enemy design in this game.Like 99% of bosses in SMTV were just luster candy/frolic into kill.
>>498522656>one broke nigger peasant to king story played straightI'll only accept the story's conclusion if it results in the abolition of the absolute monarchy.
>>498523505Zorba revived Louis, but who revived Zorba?Why didn't Eupha even one time try recalling that lance which would have shown Forden had a fake oneboth of these annoy the hell out of me
>>498523512I'm only 25 hours in but that's already my strategy for most bosses. Buff and then best physical attacker goes.
guess its time to bring out the merchant
>>498523819>Vigor Formation>Pass/Weakness>Arm Thrust Pugilist debuff>whatever>Shelter Formation>repeat as necessary>win every fight
>>498523819There's a lot more weirdly designed fights like the ones that enrage against images, the one that is weak to all phys but tetrakarns every turn, the boss that charges for an AOE but fails if you've dispelled his buffs beforehand etcI like that buff/debuff isn't the only solution.
How do I get to that room with the chests? There's no crawlspace as far as I can see. Come back with some kind of field skill?
Why is dungeon crawling so addictive in this game even though it drains my sanity managing mp
>>498522978Oh, so because her child was murdered its okay for her to kidnap and kill children? I understand her suffering but its insane how Atlus likes to sweep grave crimes under the rug by just giving them some sob back story
I can't stop taking the merchant pill bros. I've already maxxed it out on my MC and I can't stop spamming gold attack.
>>498523505>>498523768This is the new retard filter I see
>>498524447good, you need the money for late game equipments such as this >>498523878
>>498524226>its okayNo, that's why they take her to be publicly executed and are more bummed out that king pope did it stealing their thunder. You're just struggling with basic nuance and acting like the cast praise her as a wonderful mother who they want to let go free. They can see there was a good person in there who got utterly corrupted to the point she can't be redeemed. The characters are sad cause she could've been a better person but there's no going back now.
>fight ear demon>pretty difficult but doable>restart a bunch but eventually win, had a lot of fun figuring out the fight>no real rewards>immediately after characters say "oh that wasn't even the real one, fighting them is pointless"Laaaaaaammee
>>498524226brain dead anon.
>>498524132There's a crawlspace in that room at the bottom.
>>498524874I get 1tko when I tried fighting it lol
>>498523878jesus goddamn fucking christ
>>498523768Yeah it would've helped if there was an extremely kino scene where they explicitly showed you that she couldn't call it back when someone else had it not even 10 minutes before that scene
>he's in
>>498523768thats the thing that gets me the most, eupha can sense the magla in the lance. she shouldve immediately known
When does this game get hard? I just cleared Martira and everything's so trivial.
Why the fuck do do many random encounters have multiple enemies that can spam out hit all attacks?I don't think I've ever seen an Atlus game where the singular shitter remaining mob can just use mamudo twice in a row and deal 90% hp to entire party.
>>498525047Just cause Louis could stop it from coming back doesn't meant Forden could. Also the entire discussion of why they couldn't pull it back on the roof was dumb>uhhh its in front of people we can't do that!I'd honestly have preferred the return function of the lance not been apart of it at all, and the whole thing just being MC chucking it and leaving it as is. It let them do some cool scenes and a plan but also raises way too many fucking questions. If Louis goes to take a piss can she pull it from across the country?
>>498525385This, it would've made more sense if the person holding the lance was overflowing with tainted magla so she wouldn't be able to tell Next
>>498525617SMT IV? Sometimes you'd even win a fight and it would just spawn a new wave of enemies, give them advantage, and they'd oneshot your entire party
what the fuck I hate the paripus now
Persona 5 is unironically better.
>>498525890piggers
>>498525638>That doesn't mean You're coping with what the story established anon >It's in front of people No, it was stealing a sacred relic that the game mentioned multiple times were being canonized as part of the majority religion in front of a huge crowd of people being a bad idea, which is true >rest of post What questions does anything raise? Like the spear can't go through walls and shit they made it pretty obvious exactly how it works in the scenes they showed of how it works
>>498525890Around paripiggers, never relax
>>498526051literal nigger behavior
second dungeon was pretty dark
>>498523878>igniters are so dumb all they can do is cast low level magic, they'll never compare to having archetypes>meanwhile some igniter a rich person can walk into a shop to buy
This is smt x etrian odyssey x ff
>>498520478i like this onehttps://youtu.be/ztgLJcn2dh8
>>498523878Who says it's not some weak shit though?
>>498524226Nobody tried to stop the execution, they all agreed to it
>>498522268buy it from fanatical or green man gaming, DO NOT BUY FROM STEAM. you can save money without participating in credit card fraud (key resellers.)
>oh hey what's that gold thing in the ground>it's a tooth>wonder if it's friendly>nope>ambush>tons of high level aoe skills that nearly cause wipeOkay.
I feel like Louis should have more elite henchmen for you to fight before you get to him.
>>498526730I really like Martira themehttps://youtu.be/Xhsx6fnZUqI?si=EnvhbTQ8-qB5U4tr
>>498526873>bought Metaphor from gmg at 10% off>it's now 13% offGive me back my 1.10$
>>498524810>>498524886No, I completely understand the nuance here especially with Heismay being in the party and relating to her loss but I still think the game did too much to try and paint her as a victim. It's fine for the cast to understand her suffering but they could at least show a bit more disgust at the crimes that she has commited. It would have been good if there was a scene where the victims of her crimes scorned her for what she did but the game gave an excuse on how morale in the city needs to be maintained. Actually it was a bit weird that after the dungeon a lot of the population in Martita were just like "Well Im glad thats over with" instead of reflecting on the loss of all the people that were kidnapped lmao (I did notice like 2 NPCs that were grieving on their loss though).I guess what I wanted was just to see her actually confront the parents of the children she killed and come to the realisation that she is even worse as the person that killed her child. I just don't think the game did a good job showing how severe her crimes were
>>498527008The problem is the game does a poor job of building up people around villains. His 3 closest are a dude you kill at the start and 2 people who leave his service
>>498527110humble bundle sold it at a 18% discount and 20% if you subscribed to humble monthly
>>498527135If you actually talk to npcs, it's pretty obvious that literally no one forgives her.
>>498527221When was that?
>>498527135>Martita were just like "Well Im glad thats over with"There's an entire surveillance state follow up that happens specifically because of what happened in the second arc though?
>>498527214I feel like having Louis's entourage being full of mixed raced people that are the counterpart to the protag's party would have worked out better in theme to his goals and the story. They have the necromancer and the dog brothers. Just add more people like that to even out the plot progression at the end.
>>498527272>>498527396Are you talking about when returning to Martita? I haven't got there yet but right after the dungeon everyone was in a "Wow, thank god thats over" and there were very few people actually grieving over the fact that none of the kidnapped children would be returning
>>498527135Play Bardon's story he goes full schizo
Another Atlus RPG with an actual story, another reminder that nitpicking is fine but only if you're competent at nitpicking
>>498527478Do Bardon bond
I like how the bonds in Metaphor actually focuses on the characters itself instead of asskissing the protagonist. You're just coming along as a support for them while they do their own thing and it's great.
>>498527110i couldnt buy it on fanatical with my card so i bought from gmg and they took too long to give me my key so i refunded and paid with apple pay on mobile to buy from fanatical and got it for SIXTY dollars.
Rock lions are gigantic niggers. All my homies hate rock lions.
Does thief and gunner damage scale with AGI? They feel pretty weak to me so far, but both characters I tried it on are STR builds.
>>498527548>>498527676Okay, looks like I spoke too soon and I'm clearly missing something
>>498527841Nope, it makes Heismay as a damage dealer a non-factor cause you can't manually fix his stats.
>gunner archetype>uses crossbows?????
>>498527954Heismay's job is to cast steal once per fight and then stand there and sometimes take away enemy turns by dodging
>>498527745I bought on release and gmg sent me the key within 30 seconds.
work is so busy right now, and I have a daily 'play games with friends' time on the weekdays. I just did the chocolate elf's quest and got merchant and need to go to the cathedral still. It is slow going for me
>tfw haven't tried anything remotely interesting on any of the side characters and they're still flattening hard modeBros...
>unlock Elite tier Archetypes for the main cast>game becomes a breeze as I can cast some crazy synthesis moves nowI'm curious if people are going to discover the most efficient best archetype build that makes you crazy powerful with the right skill to inherit but I'm not thinking that far yet.
>>498528118i wanted to preload it ASAP, and gmg was 2 dollars more than fanatical. (im fucking jewish)
>>498528065I made him a general so I can use Vigor formation turn 1 for full-party +2 attack rank immediately. If it loops back, steal or the defense formation for +2 ranks of defense. Its so nice.
>>498527954Well shit. I swapped Hulkenberg for Eupha instead of Heismay because I thought his high AGI was going to pay off. Guess Eupha is going to be my healslut and stealslut and I get Hulkenberg back.
>game is short, easy, woke, and the story is retarded This won't even get nominated for GOTY
Can I pirate it yet
WHAT IS THE FUCKING WEAKNESS
>>498528557>short, easy, retardedenough about your mom, though
>>498528607They resist everything lmao
>>498528607>use synthesis skill that forces a one-time weakness>nukeor use almighty
>>498528607Those little shits burned through my entire stockpile of 150 damage to all items.
*removes Hulkenberg's fringe*
>>498528557>ShortHow?? I just finished the 3rd town and I'm about 38 hours in
>>498528881he was talking about his short microdick, not the game.
>>498522656Sorry, king has his mandate from God and you will bow to it.
>Berg gets charmed and starts fantasizing about the prince lmao
>>498528871AAAIIEEEEEE
Is the [Steal] skill worth using?
>>498528871>it was me, Junah, all along
>>498529106Absolutely. Every single new enemy or boss, use it first turn and reset till you get something. Its almost necessary to have enough blessed/graced water for purifying items.
>>498524226Is it really that hard to pay attention to straightforward story that literally tells you the opposite to your face? I hope you're just shitposting because I refuse to believe you are this retarded.
I understand this reference.
really berging my berg
Huh, the xp bar keep filling after you master a class.What do the level ups give you after level 20?
>>498529369Read that chain before posting anon>>498527954
>>498529106It's the best skill in the game unironically
>>498529621The xp is stored as a leaf in a 1:1 ratio. There's no penalty for staying on a max level job which imo is great. Fixes the biggest issue of other games with job systems.
>>498529621class exp items
>>498529621It takes 1K hit to level up a MASTERED jobIt gives you a fruit for 1K xp. So you don't even need to swap jobs, just get a ton of fruits to power level
>>498529106Yes. It's especially broken in combination with restarting battles on demand with L3.
>>498529621A 1000 exp item to use on a different archetype.
>>498529621An item that gives 1000 a-exp
>>498529836Oh fuck me. I've been swapping jobs as soon as they hit max. I guess I can take Strohl off Mage duty now. Thank God.
>yet another game where in the final act the sky turns red except in this game is also brings unique bad weatherkinography
Is the best way of getting mag using the merchant skills?
>>498529836>>498529854>>498529871>>498529883>>498529896Well shit, this game may not innovate, but at least it gives the genere some much needed QoL.
Those shoulderpads are so fucking stupid
I'm officially burnt out halfway through the game, see you in a few days
>oh wow it's Lost Shinjuku againAtlus is fucking shit
Not gonna explain how cuz I dont wanna spoil it but Heismay completely breaks the game later and turned everything, even the super bosses, into a joke.
>Get Junah>Masked Dancer is essentially another spin on Jack of All Trades except you change powers depending on masksThats...pretty cool actually
>>498531019the entire game is a massive joke which is why it's failing
>>498528374>I thought his high AGI was going to pay off.Oh it absolutely does.
>>498531095Shouldnt you be blogging about muh equity or something?
How the heck is the dungeon crawling and grind so...addictive. Its been a long time since I found a game where I am willing to sit and play for most of the day
>>498531095>best selling fastest selling Atlus game>highest player CCU peaks on Steam>"I better just claim the opposite of reality"you okay little guy? You mad? Upset? Frazzled? Seething?
What the hell is going on!?
>wore the samurai garb for nearly all of P5>wore it for all of P5R>once again wearing it for most of metaphor i dont think im ever getting sick of smtivs battle theme. that being said i wish these dlcs changed the basic boss music too. i will say though the MC looks weird as hell without the headband
I just startedAny abuse in this game for the mp issue? It's crazy how you need mp for everything yet there's no way to recover MP aside from potions
>>498532032Mage lineage, blue/weak enemies in the overworld combat give 1 mana per person so you can just run around and farm back up. Otherwise, no real "fix" early on.
>>498532032Read what Mage does as soon as you get it
>>498532032Devs intend for the player to play through dungeons over multiple days. Otherwise just get the mage archetype and enjoy grinding 1 MP back per enemy killed.
>>498532032mage MC ->instant win battles recover MPyou only have to do this the first two real dungeons, and I didn't even have to do it on the dark elf's dungeon on hard.Works with any stat MC since you're not actually fighting the battles
>>498532301>Devs intend for the player to play through dungeons over multiple days.ha ha ha ha ha ha ha
>>498517738>>498517558SMT1/2 MC could only use phys moves and it was more of an outspeed and status enemy game. If you learned Zio especially in SMT1, it would definitely be a mag game.There's no reason to not get Str/Mag/Vit to 30 each in Nocturne. Anything past 30 is a waste of time and you don't need significant investment in Agi or Luck.Magic in IV and V have an easier early game but Str (or rather Dex in IV) over takes it in the end. Although V is really a Vit game because the damage formula is stupid and Figment Slash demons can do basically the same shit anyway.Metaphor pretty much wants you to just raise both offensive stats when you get so much shit for free via gear etc. Fusions likely draw from both offensive stats and weapons do 95% of the workP1/P2 are magic, P3 is balanced with a tilt to magic outside of Reload, P4 and P5 are phys.DDS1 is by far and away a magic game including the speedrun route.DDS2 lets you max both if you abuse Seraph's stat calcs. Magic is better for most of the game unless you grind Ragnarok to give phys a chance.Devil Survivor is clearly magic mc because good phys moves are rare and phys mc hurts too many characters vs lmao Holy Dance/Drain.SJ MC is a vendor.
>>498532384I mean yeah, that's what they intend.Doesn't mean people won't try to optimize and scrape by, even resorting to mage farm for 30 minutes.
Sex with Heismay?
>>498532693Considering Mage is one of the first Archetypes you unlock and they always have weak enemies you can oneshot without a fight, one might even think its all on purpose
If this is the first item the bug man gives you i wonder how busted the others are.
>>498531675The game is too easy The game is too shortThe story is a trainwreckIt looks like dogshit It sounds like dogshit bad user reviewsall chink sales on steam
>>498522813bump
>>498533025Honestly cant tell what they intend player to do on purpose.>here's some crystals that spawn infinite enemies, go wild grindingDid they expect you to use a merchant to grind 1 million up?
>>498533025Yeah but it's tedious as fuck.I spent like 15 mp items o the 2nd day of the first dungeon instead of wasting my times fighting literally hundreds of enemies.
>>498533529I am guessing they thought that was fine considering the stuff you can buy is limited by story anyway so there is a limit on how powerful you can be at any point of time no matter how rich you are
>>498533529I think they just understood the importance of providing the tools to do that P5 gets a lot of praise for doing the same thing but I think the actual P5 team did a much better job doing this with the classes in this game than the zoomer squad did with the content they added to Royal
okay how the FUCK do i beat sogne? this motherfucker is actually so aids with it's magic barrier and constant debuffs. what was the party comp you used?
>>498534119I saw somebody point out how P5R included an originally JP only DLC that had 2 or 3 ways of continually getting back SP and this broke the game in half from the start as opposed to SP being the gate by design
There's no harm in selling the random junk you find, is there? Also is this like Persona where weapons only increase your base attack?
>>498534119>>498534317I haven't actually played Royal. What was added?
>>498534279Who was Sogne again?
>>498533345why post Yukari, lying bro? You don't play any of these games. You don't play video games period if I had to guess, Discord 'sis'. You just seethe and lie, and you're only getting a (you) because you're a clown, and I had a laugh.
How many facking new enemies are in the dragon dungeon wtf
>>498534321no, they make sure to tell you in game and on load screen that weapon attack = magic attack too
>>498534432the ice dragon you fight after you fly for the first time
reminder to use CreamAPI to unlock all the DLConly creamapi 5.1 works, the newest version 5.3 will get caught by denuvo and prevent you from launching the game
I'm gonna cum
>>498534279First round dump fire damage from MC and the wife (eupha) and then switch out the wife for the sidepiece (junah) who has dekaja + debuffs Magic knight Izzy with dekunda + Bas both with frostbite resist using the strike weakness synthesis and then charge + the same move again for like 3k damage, while MC just passes turns for awhile I would sometimes throw away my last press turn with MC to bring down the magic barrier just so a turn would get wasted putting it up again. Don't recommend it without the reduced anxiety chance skill from the wife Always need to make sure dekaja and dekunda are available and that there's enough MP to stay on top of that
>>498534758good looking out, I bought the game but I'm not paying for fucking Atlusjew DLC I know it's not the devs and it's the retards on top of SEGA, but it's still annoying
It's pretty straight-forward, they made grinding easy for the players that need it to beat the game. You should be happy they're so accommodating.
>>498534945>he hasn't gotten 12 archetype rank ups in a single fight yet
>>498535116A JRPG without grind is SHITmight as well go play FF 16 at that point and pretend you like "the jarpigs"
>>498534279Does this work or is it specifically against repel?
>>498534279Sukunda+Dekunda+Hulk's Proclamations+Junah's fire spells+Protag's Priest/Messiah heal supportJust cast Tetra/Makarakarn on Hulk for any dragon boss, really.
>>498535418This does not work, this boss has a clause against it. Strong Physical damage is the best bet.
is there a non spoiler list of who needs what class for their last class?ex. Hulk needs mage lineage and I don't think you would know that until you saw it.
so how stupid would it be to make a party consisting of 4 dark knights? theres alot of passives in the game that seem to benefit this playstyle of having all the same lineage but then you lose out on most if not all synthesis skills
>>498534279Just bring Basilio, Charge, use Strike weakness Synthesis, Charge and go at it again. You'll kill the boss pretty fast.
>>498534523No lies just more P5 slop that can't be defended No one will be talking about this shit game anymore in a month
>>498535425The dragons wouldve been a tough fight if it wasnt for Heismay.
I still cannot believe this shit is real https://x.com/Atlus_West/status/1846242184766308605
>>498535684DK1>Vigor, ShelterDK2>HealerDK3>DebufferDK4>Main DPSSeems like it'll work fine to me, then you can put the Brawler crit passive on all of them, then you work towards everyone having the doubled Crit Merchant passive.
>party decides to stay in some shithole cowshed tier hotel instead of their comfy runnerbut why?
>>498535684do you NEED all those skills? You only really need 1 good one.
>Only time story is talked about is to call it retarded Grim
>>498535947Their runner isnt exactly comfy either considering the beds are essentially capsule beds. So I guess they just wanted to save themselves the walk
>only time poster's family talks to it is to call it retardedGrim
>>498535684>>498535848Synthesis is the main issue though, this party really wants access to Blackguard's Hammer. Replace one for Summoner and you have a cracked party I think. You can also do Brawler to get both Flying Guard Thrust and Blackguard's Hammer.
>>498536289Nobody finished the game yet
>>498535705Don't use charge yourself. Bring dancer for a party charge.
>>498535732outskilled
Sex with gallica is that even possible like physically?
>>498536289I haven't finished it yet but so far it's probably my favourite story from an Atlus game. Not that that's saying much.
>>498536449Why would you want to have sex with such a nothing character
>>498536381I have.
>>498536576>really only 4 monthsGrim
>>498536353speaking of i am actually curious how synthesis pulls from the 2nd person, do buffs on them make it stronger too or do buffs only apply to the caster? what if you have 2 people use charge and then use a physical synthesis skill that involves both of them..?
>>498536576>develop a game for 10 years >put no content in it
>>498535049nah its the devs, they’ve always been jewish. Remember when SMTIV was $50?
>>498536825If they just had thrown in a filler dungeon like Mementos at the tail end it could get another 10 hours
>>498536908I didn't want another 10 hours.
So is Fabienne Maria's mother and Grius's wife or is she just a friend of his that's looking after Maria?
>>498536908Who said he finished all the post game shit? He seemed to have rushed through it, as is always the case with these early finishers.
>>498536870devs don't sent prices in a large corporation like Sega, my man
>>498536995Never mind I kept going, Maria calls her miss Fabienne which is obviously not something a child would call her own mother.
>>498537031What post game shit...? The game ends on the final day.
>>498536825>60 hours>no contentwhy are you retarded?
>>498536995Fabienne is the cuckqueen, Grius is married to her but Maria is his daughter from his previous marriage
>>498536746The second person is just an MP battery. Sometimes damage is a little higher depending on the character but it seems like a difference of 20-40 HP and not something major. It's just there as a balancing act. If you charge only the main person's charge matters. >>498536825I've beaten the game I thought they put a lot of work into it and I'm fine it's not 120 hours for one playthrough. Since with P5 1/4th of that time was going to school.
>>49853720660 hours is even shorter than SMTV which is a game you're expected to replay multiple times.
>>498536995>>498537147Maria is half Rhoag-Ishkan, so its obvious shes not related by blood to Fabienne what with her lack of fluffy ears
>>49853732866 hours is plenty, thanks. If you care there's a ng+ only boss supposedly.
>>498536870>>498537137>>498536870Or when they introduced 4 new demon designs, made them integral to the plot and then paywalled it behind DLC. Not to mention they required one of those DLCs to further beat their superboss DLC. And yeah, the Atlus tax was already well-established by then. So it's not like Sega changed that much, though the SMT gacha seemed to be their influence.
>>498537328VV is, nobody replayed base V because it sucked fat cock and you're AWFUL if it took you longer than 45-50 hours, retarded faggot
But muh 100 hours?
>>498536825while theres still downtime it feels way less egregious than person because of side dungeons and what not taking alot of time to do
When does Seeker actual become usefull outside inheriting DEI?
>>498536545I am sad and lonely and attracted to anything that is female and offer friendly companionship
>>498537206Everything past what they marketed is a black void of no content faggot Missing dungeons, missing story, climax is a fucking travesty and they lied about replays it's linear trash with nothing new
>>498537551Soul Hacker is nice, so the very end.
>>498537513>he skipped all the contentSMTV is easily 100 hours if you don't rush shit like a retard, which you clearly are.Bet your demon compendium is like 60%Basically you're a faggot and your opinion doesn't matter.
>>498537703>Basically you're a faggot and your opinion doesn't matterthat's you though
>>498537703>SMT V is 100 hours if you're slow gay and retarded and do every last sidequest>but Metaphor is 60 if you skip all the side shit and rush the main story and that's what I'm going to countlmaololyou never beat Shiva, you terrible faggot
>>498537595>no contentyou talk like a Twitch zoomer
>>498537328or you could just do true neutral and then look up the other ending cutscenes online
>>498537551Yeah, magic seeker gets heavy wind magic as a solo slot and soul hacker gets extreme magic as a solo slot. >>498537703>Demon compendiumYou could spend 150 hours and you still wouldn't complete maxing out every archetype on every character. Don't talk about garbage that just wastes time.
>>498536576What carries over into NG+?
>game has been out 5 days with today being the 5th>play it for 65 hours >play the game for 16 and a half hours A DAY >claim you didn't like itlollollol
>>498537810>>498537703Youre both faggots. I didnt rush much, I did all the towers and the superboss and the colosseum. I did skip through the cutscenes of social links I dont care about, but that's what, 1 hours worth? The games length is fine.
>>498537810Pretty sure I have beat Shiva but keep coping faggot.I'm not even that anon. 60 is very short and obviously rushed.>inb4 you played on easy.
>>498538119>Cleopatra>tries to throw shade about 'easy mode'AHAHAAHAHAHAH FAGGOT
>>498538119>used DLC demonsYou didn't beat the game.
>basilios awakening damn, wasnt expecting that those 2 are easily my favorite characters
>>498538119oh so you have not beat the game because you are not the guy who did but you're making arguments and claims over him being the gamewhich you haven'tLOL
Is there anything wrong with doing dungeons two days in a row?
The game needed more years of development to make anyone give a shit about the plot which is incredible when they wasted a decade working on a game that will have terrible word of mouth
>>498538324You lose out on a day.
>>498538216>>498538246concessional accepted faggotCleopatra is base game in VV. If I wanted to cheat i'd use Sakuya.Now post your Shiva kill, faggots
>>498538216>>498538246he literally PAID to beat optional bonus fightslet that sink in
>>498538324It's not efficient. You can do it but it will mean you risk not having everything done by the end.
>>498538398>concessional accepted faggoteveryone that types this is always gay, wrong, and seething. Checks out.
>>498538398Just because they included the DLC for free doesn't mean those demons aren't well above the power curve of the rest of the demons. Cleopatra turns what little game is left into a joke, especially the superbosses since the free Charms neuter their offensive capabilities.
>>498538412Do you know what emulation is, faggot?Do you know what CreamAPI is faggot?Obviously you don't know shit, you rush through everything just like you rush through the game. >>498538504Concessional accepted faggotStill waiting fdor your kill.
Hello today I have come here to make arguments based off of a game I have not played, using someone else's clear timeNo I have not beat the game
The game has no content
seeker lineage or mage lineage for mc end game?
so where are you supposed to farm in this dungeon? the skellies give shit exp
>>498538613I think youre mixing up two different people kiddo.
>>498538587you're literally crying, bitch boyfucking fat sobs KEK
>>498538568>free charms>on bossesHave you tried actually playing the game?
>>498538662Who gives a fuck you get half the jobs right at the end of the game with nothing to use them on
>>498538471Alright, I'm just at the second dungeon but I feel like I only have about 3 days to tackle the main dungeon, shit is way more constrained than other Fatlus games, which isn't necesserily a bad thing I suppose.
>>498538676farm?
>>498538628Eh. The only thing that annoyed me was that I had 6 days before the end and nothing to do.
>>498538689no I'm pretty sure the retard crying bitch tears literally admitted to not being the person who posted a clear and yet is trying to make claims about a game he has not beaten, or even played it sounds likedo try to keep up, sweety
Woke shit.I'm not an npc btw.
>>498538761Nigga, clearly you haven't played the game. Demi-Fiend and Shiva summon adds that can be Charmed.
>>498538326k lol
>>498538716Concession accepted faggot
>game in development for 10 years has 40-60 hours of content in it Only from a hack developer like this one
>>498538793I finished everything 6 days before getting to the final dungeon so you can do it a few times just try not to do it too much.
>>498538852>literally post a screenshot of me playing the game>you haven't payed the gameok lol. So far the only thing I haven't seen is (You) playing the game.
>>498538676The red enemies, use the skeletons for mana farm so you can burst the other actual enemies fast
>>498538969>Concession accepted faggot>he's just repeating himself now lmao how mad?
>>498539179so why didn't you know a basic fact about two of those super bosses that you "beat"?
damn since when did /v/ invade the general?
>>498539275You got btfo, so keep cope crying pussy faggot. Oh and concession accepted faggot
>>498539179Then you'd know that Frolic is busted in those fights and makes them way easier, dipshit.
>>498539357yesterday. from time to time the schizo come here and try to start shit
>>498539351>>498539384Because only a fucking retard would waste time on a chance to charm enemies, potentially risking a fail and wasting precious MP to debuff trash mobs instead of just killing them.You don't fucking want to leave the snake alive a single turn, charmed or not charmed.Basically, play the fucking game, shitters.
>>498539365>You got btfo, so keep cope crying pussy faggot.>Oh and concession accepted faggotkek I can smell those salty bitch ass tears from here, god DAMN you're madno more (you)s though because you're shitting up the thread. Just know I'm still laughing at you anyways
>>498539605>n-no youlmao you got btfo.concession accepted faggot
>>498536576I'm around 30 hours in and only recently finished Martira. Are you speedrunning or does the game just abruptly end?
>>498539598You continue to demonstrate you haven't played the game, you know. Frolic not only sets DEF debuff to max, it also comes with Charm chance. Now the actual counter that you pathetic faggots haven't come up with is Parvati nulls Charm, which would be a problem if there wasn't a passive that made it so you don't lose turns for a failed affliction. But you haven't played the game, so.
>>498539809Did you ever think that maybe youre just slow?
>no costumes in the game >just the dlc pre-orders >no costumes coming out down the line either Game is totally finished guys 10 YEARS
>>498539812Cleopatra was nerfed in VV, dipshit. You can't spam frolic like crazy. it's a waste of time to try and charm shit you're going to kill asap. You also want to keep the elephant alive and not charmed so he can attack you and waste Shiva's press turns. Still yet to see you playing the game though, only talking out of your ass.
>>498539996where did the 2 extra years come from?
>>498539357It's discord tranny raiders, not /v/. Please do not allow them to claim dominion over anything.
>>498540297they aren't very good at their jobs. Well, maybe job is the wrong word; "thing they do instead of work, and for FREE" might be a more appropriate phrase.
Wish they added 1 more town and big dungeon after you get your final party member so everyone can get to know each other and hangout a little more before the fast track to the end.
Is it just me or are all the banners in the cathedral reversed?
>>498539809The game is 4 months. I thought it was fine. >>498539996This is the only disappointing thing. It was clearly going to be a thing since you change into uniform at the start but then they dropped it. >>498540791Yeah. I wish we had one more month but you'd need more followers or things that waste time.
>>498537270theres so much depth and worldbuilding in this game
Fuck this thing has a lot of HP and is destroying me.
You think you're equal to a Eugief's fertility?*PLAP PLAP PLAP*
Everyone is shitting on this game calling it meh
>>498539996>>498540981Costumes only work in dungeons/battle too which is lame
>>498539809>I'm around 30 hours in and only recently finished Martirasame here for me
>>498535715if only you were more passionate into other things than hating on this game.
>Found out debates were timed events>Missed them allGreat.
and then you woke up
I'm on 22/07 and I have 28 hours.Unless you fags try to claim the other 3 months last less than 40 hours, the 65 hour run is obviously rushed and skipped content.
>>498541143There is none
>>498538761youd be surprised how good aliment skills are if you really tried with them.
>>498541358Youll be fine, I hit the final deadline with days to spare after maxing everything. Protip: You can do the colosseum at night and it raises courage so do that instead of normal courage events like I made the mistake of doing. Ton of wasted courage points.
>giving attention to the shitposteryesterday once he was ignored by the thread he left
Hulkenstein actually looks sexo here. Shame about her ingame model
can i join the discord?
>>498541589That's every character. Portrait art is great but the models are shit.
>>498541589I'm still laughing about the deleted ass. Other characters have asses, and we SEE the ass in the older game material, so I don't know what the thought process was there other than to bring a lot of attention to it and make people laugh.
>>498541417You're probably just grinding more. I did everything. I didn't skip unless a boss I was doing a boss. I'm at the final dungeon with 70 hours. I like the game but it's "shorter" than a normal persona game. I'm cool with that though since most persona games begin to drag halfway through.
>>498541589>2 of the women in your party are literal autists>the one that isnt is a whorewhat the hell man
>>498541805i find her more sexy ass-less. You wouldnt get it…
I can't believe I got somehow tricked into believing pink bunny girl is going to be a party member.
y'all aren't ready to hear this, but the game is too rng
>>498541940i somehow tricked my dumbass into thinking batlin, neuras and catherina were gonna be party members
After Persona 5, I'm never gonna complain about Atlus making a "short" game.
M-Metafor the b-bargin bin!!
>>498541927but we're talking literally ass-less. Not small-ass, but as in, "nothing is there"
>>498542160The term is Hnak hill ass
>>498541926Junah is a virgin and saved herself for the MC.
>>498542160she has an ass, its just very-very small.
>>498542149>>498541940She's a really strong striker for dungeons you can have her in.
>>498542154It's a $40 game being sold for $70 where else do you think it will go Not even Concord pretended it was $70
>>498541417My save file has 46 hours and I am on 9/12 and it ends sometime in October. It really depends on how much you wanna grind, or if you back out of a dungeon cause you don't want to grind. Played on Hard whole time and its not been terribly bad.
>>498542150I'm glad that every S-link in the game is actually something that gets you a rank. Persona games are fun but a lot of time hanging out with characters is just filler.
>>498541940I wish we got Del over his bro
I'm playing in japanese reading really slowly and going back to all towns to talk to every NPC each new chapter so the game will last 100+ hours for me.
The game could've at least been 6 months
>>498542836Cope there is no content
>>498542418concord's a 40 dollar game in a market where hero shooters went F2P eons ago.
>>498542836>talk to every NPC each new chapterThis isn't Trails bro
>>498542854I think the issue with it just comes from the Assets. They got lazy in some places but it looks like the towns and the major dungeons took the most time to make.
Holy fuck, Dragon Temple was crazy long. Doing that in one go was hard AF.
>>498542975it's a multiplayer game with expected thousands of hours of content for its players, even if it is ass.
>>498542532It's gonna be pretty annoying if they go back to pop quizzes and bringing the right Persona with you after this.
>>498542836Japan is so awesome dude I wish I was Japanese and lived in Japan and went to high school in Japan and had a Japanese high school girlfriend who was a Virgin before meeting me and we watched Anime together and we married after I had her read the Bible and had 6 pure Japanese babies together to make Japan Great Again
Don't worry they'll fix everything and add extra 2 months in the rerelease in about 2 years :^)
>>498543206Same
>>498542149Instead we got >NOBLESSE OBLIGE the character>food vacuum>sad old man>WHORE>sheltered autistWish we got some of the other candidates instead as party members.
>>498543009There's new dialogue everytime so yes it's like Trails, and I like the little stories going over the months.Some in P5 with stuff like the little girl near Leblanc with the dog dying.
>>498543080yeah a mulitplayer in a market where its competitors are F2P. its own existence defeats the point of the genre.
>>498543206Somehow you come across as the trashiest fag today. Go back to whatever cesspit you migrated from normalfag. You’re not worth any anon’s time.
>>498543383I like that woman in the capital that has a melty about Elda every time you talk to her
So now that we know the game is severely lacking in content what will the next excuse from Atluskeks be?
>slowly waking to a peaceful, refreshing morning breeze as Neuras kicks the runner up a gear when all of a suddenOI, IT'S YOU LOT
SJWphor was just a throw away. P6 will restore order.
What were the good Strohl archtypes to level again? It was Warrior, Commander and something else.
>>498543967Why would strohl be commander when most of the commander shit is magic based?
>>498543475Damn Normalfags. They Just Don't Understand Me. Japan Is Truly The Most Awesome Thing Ever. Japanese Culture Is The Pinnacle Of What Life Has To Offer But They Will Never Get It. Go Back To Your Wage Cage. Loser Bastard. Fuck. Cunt
>>498543361basedilio is great at least
>>498544039Weapons matter more than stats and he has to max it out anyway.
>>498544039first off commander has elemental physical skills which is good for str users. secondly im pretty sure you need warlord ranked up to unlock his final FINAL warrior archetype
I hate Del's pig ears. Ugly little shite.
Luck build status?
>>498544368MIA
How are you allocating your stats?
>>498544440I roll a dice.
>>498544440very carefully
>>498544440Everything into MAG
>>498543950hashino yoinked all of the senior devs from the persona studio and put them into his studio. unless you like persona from p4g onward, then this should worry you.
>>498544039Commander skills are STR based
>>498544039I think you have to. I just remembered it was Tycoon because of the crit passive.
>>498544440+++++++++++++++++++MAG
>>498544509>>498544603bricked
>>498544368Strongest>>498544440Luck++++
>>498544587No. Only the first one but his synergy skills are all mag
>>498543950Persona team is literally the B team. Hope you liked Persona 3 Reload, thats the kind if quality you can expect moving forward
How old is Eupha?
>>498544039>>498543967Doesn't matterWarrior/CommanderKnight/MageThief/GunnerDancer/FakerSummoner/SeekerBerserker/Brawler>>498544440It seems like there's no real reason to get anything higher than 60-70 inherently. Just take shits on Idlesday and use bath salts later on.
Before buying the game I wanna know, is Metaphor's story darker than Persona 5's spongebob tier school life trash?
>>498544581>>498544843Nice cope
>>498544916>It seems like there's no real reason to get anything higher than 60-70 inherentlyI should still hyperinvest into 1 offense stat though, right?
The appeal of riding on your gauntlet runner as you travel to do a dungeon or quest is really comfy. Wish we had more breathing room where you can waste time by doing nothing on your ship, hanging out and just travelling from place to place without the calendar ticking down and forcing the main game plot deadline on you.
>>498544950Standard fanfasy fare with a dab of darker themes (child abuse etc) sprinkled here and there
wtf he said it lmao
Metaphor of what?
>>498545152of a good game
>>498545002>he doesn't know
ohnononono metaphorcuckswhat happened??
>>498544950its even worsemetasnore throws >LE RACISM BADin your face every chance it gets
>>498544916I assume it's the best class for each party member in order of recruit. So each character need to master another class before unlocking their ultimate class?
>>498544950Depends if you consider classism and racism darker than a girl attempting to commit suicide after being molested by her school teacher.
Guess threads on /v/ aren't filling the (You)s quota anymore if they have to come here and try the same bait.
>>498545576it's just one schizo he's been at since yesterday just ignore him and he will go away
can you do the powerpyx guide on hard or are you fucked
>>498545443I can't even call the game woke when the game's idea of "racism" is so childishInstead of actually exploring any reason WHY some tribes would be regarded as "lesser" it's just>they're lesser because they just are ok? they just give me the ick
>>498545510Ch2 was pretty dark
>>498545443v...
>>498545510At least the villains in Metaphor actually get punished instead of "hurr duruur dindu it was the shade's fault he doesn't remember anything"
>>498545008Weapons/Archetypes do bulk of the work and you'll only suck if you completely neglect a stat.
>>498545510been a while since i played persona but didn't kawakura or w/e his name was try to turn himself in to the police but nothing actually happened so he got off scot-free?and the girl lived so she was fine?
Isn't magical bread busted?
>>498545756My favorite thing about Metaphor is that everything happens in the real world. There isn't that big disconnect like in P5.
>>498545716no that guide assumes you're playing on storyteller
>>498517960Atlus "SMT Civ" but with the different demon races fighting for control of different sections of Tokyo (Fairy, Brute, Vile, etc.) fucking when?Fund it.
>>498545080TITLE DROP
>>498545495Yes, everyone needs to master the listed lines.
These characters have a bad habit of going "our destination is just up ahead!" Or "we're getting close now" when in fact our destination is not just ahead and we are not in fact getting close now.
>>498543206I say this
>>498545963yeah and can you beat that level 60 boss at level 30ish? because people always get filtered at tartarus 1 day on the first blocks and im just here unga bunga
>>498545716You genuinely dont need a guide for this one. They streamlined and added a lot of QOL so you can finish the game with everything complete if you just do all the content.
>>498544040I also say this, but without all the unneeded capital letters and with better grammar
>>498544950It’s the typical Atlus fare, so no matter what it’s better than any western game. It’s not the most off the rails edgy, but it’s substantively higher than god if war or peak warhammer kiddie cringe
>>498544950>>498545443massive double cope
>>498546131Even if I don't 1 day clear all the dungeons?
>>498545905His career was ruined but I think the corrupt government stopped him from doing time>She lived so she was fineI guess that's one way to look at it.
>>498545726new to Earth, retard bro?
>>498546131my ass im not trusting you>inb4 get virtues undercapped and need to bumrush to get a social link up but then don't have enough time i mean come on the "100%" guide only has a WEEK left. a WEEK. that's note
STR bros, all STR or spare some END for max bulking?
>>498546158It’s amazing anon hurt blasted this tourist to full on meltdown mode.
>>498546264Generally racism at least has some justification like looking down on other cultures for being lesser developed or barbaric, or at least some made up justification to go conquer and exploit them. Not just "they have different ears"
>>498546283Bonds are streamlined. You can never give the wrong answers and you'll always keep progressing in your bonds as you play the game as long as you keep your virtues up. Also everything you do in the game including the dungeons gives you virtue so you just need to hang out with party members or read a book and you'll never have trouble maxing out your virtues.
>>498545756I was so afraid when that one bitch who murdered all those children was going to get away with it. I didn't expect what happened to happen that openly but it's way better than you can go. The game also does a good job of foreshadowing just what is happening so it doesn't feel like it came out of nowhere.
i wish i had an oled steam deck..
>>498546449Well, first off they DO have justification in the game but you either sped read or are illiterate, but no, in real life nobody needs real justification to dislike "others" since humans are programmed to by default. It's sort of why I don't need a justification to hate you for being retarded because my 'group' is much smarter than yours.
how are we feeling about this EO GODS?
>>498546561Why? I have one and it kind of struggles to run the game at anything higher than 40 fps. Some smaller text is hard to read too.
Im confused as to how damage calculation and received works? Is it Base stats + Equipment + Archetype? Then how come when I switch to Warrior archetype, my MAG stat goes from base 11 to 9(8+1)? Im not wearing any equipment for this test
>There's a Metaphor doujin in the making
>>498546838warrior has a -mag modifier
>>498532968WHY DOES HE HAVE NO LEWDS
Man, most mobs in the dragon dungeon fuck my shit up, but then the boss and the boss afterwards are underwhelming as fuck.
>>498546838why are you playing in 32:9
>>498546881ugly bastard ryona doujin where rich men all take turns abusing Catherina.
>>498546902Ok thanks. Where is it written btw?
>>498546449Yeah that would be a cop out. But they do have justifications. Early game points out the paripus for example are a bunch of lazy, hedonistic garbage people, and most everyone is sick of their shit. The horned people are physical bullies and push around everyone with their big cocks and muscle. The elves are different in that they are bullies and push everyone around with their big cocks and muscles. But they have pointed ears. Basically most people don’t read the lore and jump to mouthing off and spouted dumb horseshit
>>498547001These things take time. Most artists who actually like games and aren't just trying to earn internet points with their art don't start posting until they've gotten significantly far into the game, spoiler grace period has passed, and/or they see that their community has gotten far enough into the game to appreciate their work.
>>498547173It's not, have to look at your stats after equipping it to see. Pretty easily noticable if you give it to Strohl.
>>498546794i can play portably and i would cap it at 30fps (unless atlus decides to do more performance patches)
Volcano dungeon was surprisingly tough but it's nice that they still throw you some curveballs and make you rely on new party members for the easiest solutions. I appreciated that. Also he's so fucking easy to get going. Max Pugilist and then max Warrior for an easy +2 STR and he has a nigh immaculate skill set, only wanting Crit Trade later and maybe a heal.
Is it possible to take down this dragoon at this point in game? Im on hard difficulty btw
>>498547374Morgana had way more by now before the game even came out.
>>498547563yes, i did it with 3 warriors
>>498547563Very possible.
>>498547563It's the only time where it's possible
>>498547001He has like 3 pics
>>498547563yes, i unironically had no SP when i did it
>>498547563Yes actually, just try it out. Also get some mages going, the dragon boss is to teach you not to be afraid of game overs.
>>498547613Morgana had a cute design before people realized he was a massive asshole near the end of the game.
>>498547679>>498547680>>498547694>>498547731>>498547736Fuck. NTA but I just assumed it was one of those moments you're not supposed to fight it and didn't even try. I'm bricked. I need to restart my save.
>>498547724That's basically 0 when it comes to JRPG art.
>>498546118nump
After metaphor im gonna play DDS, then persona 4 then paper mario ttyd then SMTVV ng+ CoC then raidou hd then persona 6
>>498547845All you get is a sword that will eventually become obsolete.
>>498547563>Mage/Warrior/Mage>Sleep walk through the entire dungeon
>>498547960The sword is so good it'll carry you until the 2nd dungeon though.
>>498547960and most importantly, the feeling that you did actually beat the game
>>498547563>Super powered version of this as a side boss later onKino
>>498547613I think people who haven't played Metaphor that far yet don't know what to expect from Heismay. Morgana is a much easier design to just ram a disembodied dick into. He's like a pokemon.
>>498548010I had a weapon with higher attack than it before I even left the first dungeon.
>>498547845Bro… You’re cooked!
>>498548076I guess thats true, a big chunk of Heismays appeal is his personality.
she is /ourgirl/i love my wife
>>498547937I still need to beat SMTVV. I beat the original so the beginning is kind of a slog even on the new route.
>>498548076I think most people including myself expected him to be those annoying rat comic relief characters that would keep making jokes with a high pitched voice.
>>498547563I assumed that the game was just going to force me to not fight it so I didn't even try to. I feel like a fool indeed.
Metaphor girls are so ugly. That alone puts it below every other atlus game. Girls are what make or break a game, and well, this shit is broke.
I just got to the port town, does this game EVER get hard?It's somehow easier than even persona games, probably because merchant kinda just ruins it
>>498548258Same. It's OK, we just took the Hard mode path.
>>498548235This too. I stayed away from all the pre-release news for this game after the initial trailer and I assumed the "rat" party member would be like a largely if not wholly insufferable Xenoblade Nopon companion
>>498548386The game does have a few bosses where I had to step back and reconfigure my team, yes.
>>498548368speak for yourself. i find brigitta and catherina adorable.
>>498548235The nice thing is that Metaphor really doesn't have a comic relief character in the cast. The closest may be Hulkenberg with her food stuff and the fact she gets worked up at stuff like when Strohl and Gallica were yelling to flush out Heismay. I'm honestly fine with it since it was nice that Hulkenberg didn't end up being a stick up her ass character like people were expecting.
>>498548417>>498548235Pretty sure everyone was expecting him to be the "Morgana/Teddie" of the game. It's kinda funny that this game doesn't actually have a mascot character.
>>498548386Not really, the difficulty mostly comes from "oh shit I wasn't paying attention, got ambushed now I'm dead".Or walking into boss fights with bad party set up, those are the cause of most deaths. Most bosses I one shot and I'm about 40 hours into the game. I think challenge run wise this game will be a ton of fun but if just causal play and using all the mechanics the game offers? Not gonna be "hard" at any point
>>498548605Gallica is the mascot character isnt she?
>>498548596>adorable is the best you have to describe two of the lesser evilsI rest my case
>>498548214the game is pretty fun to play, story is shite but i want to play it again.
>>498548605Heismay and Gallica both qualify for "mascot" characters. It's not a requirement that the "mascot" be shallow and annoying.
Who is the Futaba of metaphor? By that I mean the sexiest, most popular, and best girl all in one?
Is the exp bonus from bad weather worth the tougher fights or should I just not bother dungeoning when it's raining?
>>498548740i don't need to explain myself.
>>498548827not worth it
>>498548776Probably gonna be Hulkenberg because she's a huge dork while the other 2 you get is a slut and the other one is too much of a autist to be appealing.
>>498548776Eupha. She's super cute and even the start of her follower thing has some hard teasing stuff with there obviously being a double meaning to a handshake for her culture.
>>498548827>Is the exp bonus from bad weather worth the tougher fightsAbsolutely not. Maybe in lategame but you should definitely not dungeon dive in bad weather unless you hate yourself.
>>498548368I like every girl's look except for Junah. I haven't seen the other blonde's face yet though. Hulk, Maria, Fabienne, Brigitte, and Gallica are my top five.
Is the other meaning sex?
>>498548942>>498549017Noted. Thanks, anons.
>>498548863More like you cant defend the grotesque girls of metaphor
>>498548827Don't be a pussy and just do it.I did the mimic dungeon on hard during a sandstorm and it was fine.
>>498548776Junah
>final boss does that thing where it remixes the main theme song
>>498549108forgot the pic
>>498549123do I need to?
>>498548969>hulkenbergif she didnt have her ass completely nerfed, and her out of dungeon stance wasnt desexed to an absurd degree maybe. Her being the "eat ze bugs" character does nothing for me.
the schizo got bored, Kek!
>>498549327You cant, that's the point. Whether you felt the need to or not doesnt matter
>>498549256it's kino every time
>>498547679How Im getting assblasted after the first turn. The melee attacks and tail swipes hurt af
>>498549315Eupha is so fucking cute. I love her pronouncing the demon names
>>498549480so you don't know?
>>498512145The ending to the story of the second dungeon just completely took me out of the experience, guess I should have known a JRPG would have a bleeding heart for a baby killer
>>498549710I know everything.
>>498549746Retard kun...
>>498549315It's certainly a good idea to trust the people you want to have sex with
>>498549746Just continue with the story.
>>498549746its really odd how the party forgives her but is so hellbent on killing louis just cause they think hes the one who cursed the prince
>>498522225this isnt even as hard as SMTV on hm...
>>498549746>speedreader
at what level should i be for the final dungeon?
>>498523512Synergy skills alone make this way more fun than SMTV combat for me
>>498550276SMT VV was way easier on hard mode desu. I just finished it last month so it's not even recency bias.
>If he's a kidnapper, he deserves to have had his own child die>She may have killed dozens of children, but now that I know her baby was murdered, and she's repentant, I feel kinda bad about turning her in.What did they mean by this?
>>498548776Gallica is the footslut of this game
A phrase I never thought I'd read in a video game.Outside of Shrink High, anyway...
>>498549238So Junah is the canonical love interest?
>>498534279I'm surprised people don't use repel phys skill especially if a boss uses aoe phys attacksbasically throw repel phys and he and other bosses loses all their turnsWhen I killed him he got to use a single tail swipe in the entire battle
>>498549821you tell me.
Brawlers are super fun and can hit like a truck but it still doesn't feel like Warrior is dethroned yet, who do more damage consistently and don't have pay HP for it or crit
>>498550741If that image proves anything it's that Gallica is the love interest, Junah's just the team fuckbuddy.
I wish they made the giant king face in the sky have "moon phases", missed opportunity that
>>498550882Junah is for MC cock only.
is merchant broken?real answers only.
>>498550742i'm not even sure what classes get repel phys skills if i'm honest
>>498550074NTA, but the game IS conspicuously missing an adequate amount of condemnation for the Lady's actions. I thought it was weird that no one says anything to her about how she made other mothers feel her same pain and no one seems disturbed by how much damage she did.
>>498551004In relative terms Id say no, there's much more broken setups out there. I recommend kicking out Heismay now if you don't want to break the game.
>>498550448honestly idk if VV was made easier but i remember base V being pretty hard
>>498544581The game runs like ass, he clearly didn't get the good programmers in the divorce
>>498551157what's so broken about heismay? did i make a mistake keeping him as theif > sin?
>>498550565Beautiful women are permitted more lenience than bipedal rodents, something something unconscious prejudice
near end game(?) story spoilers is it an etrian odyssey prequel???
What do you get when you take a mentally ill elda and place him in a society that treats him like trash?
>>498550741Of Louis yeah
>>498551460A boy I would very much like to ream
>>498546283Guides suck. When I played P3R I had all of my non-Aigis social links maxed before Christmas and then I just cruised through January. I checked 100% guides online to see where they were at and they were still doing other social links through to the end of January. I see the same thing here, from the guides I've seen there's plenty of suboptimal shit
>>498551306Youll probably have more fun not knowing, but later near the end of the game he gets a skill that deletes the enemy turn if he dodges anything. This automatically comes with another skill that halves the opponents hit rate, so he basically has over a 50% chance of just removing the enemies turn immediately if they use any aoe attack. You can go full in on it and pack him full of dodge skills suited for the enemy youre facing but this usually isnt necessary and is a bit overkill.
>>498551120Lv. 20 Magic Knight has Tetrakarn. If the boss uses aoes, throw it on whoever and it'll remove the rest of their turns when they get reflected.If the boss does single target physical, combo Tetrakarn with Knight's Proclamation.(either using press turns to cycle around to your knight using both, or by having a second character inherit proclamation from Lv. 1 Knight)
>>498551643Oh and these are all passives by the way so all he has to do is just exist.
>>498550741She flirts with MC throughout the entire game
>>498552104But Eupha literally basically says she wants to marry you
The most annoying thing about this game so far is the illusion of free will thing they do where you get control after a long cutscene and then the game stops you forcibly to have more dialogue, sometimes several times in a row and often with you having taken less than 10 steps.
>>498551282probably because they're running on the p5 engine. y'know the one designed for the ps3?
What decides if a skill is melee or ranged, archetype or the skill? I ask because i have some gunner skills on my hulk's knight and i swear they do less dmg than if they were on gunner or even faker. Does putting gunner skills on a melee job make them melee skills?
>>498552339P5R is the P5 engine, it actually runs well on everything, it even runs well on the switch.
>>498552450>the rerelease runs betterthe sky is also blue.
>>498551772this is my problem, i feel like for the boss i'm currently facing i fucked around too much by leveling stuff like general instead of getting stuff to 20, or i didn't grind enough
Another game is inevitable. Should the next mc be more talkative, less or same as this game?
>>498552579P5 runs fine as well dumbass. I mentioned P5R because it was the one that was ported to everything. You can't blame the engine when the engine provably works fine.
>>498552272Marriage proposal is a losing flag. That's shipping 101
>>498552286The game isn't trying to trick you into thinking you have control, it's just giving you a chance to save your game between scenes.
Is Masked Dancer/Persona Master worth messing around with? Unless I'm mistaken masks are consumed on use which seems weird.
>>498552812>time between p5 to p5r: 3 yrs>time between p5 to mrf: 8 yrsif you don't think engine's don't show their age over time, then you probably think bethesda's engine is fine.
>>498552785More talkative with more established characterization. I don't care about playing a "blank slate" MC; I can happily identify with a fully-established protagonist like any literate JRPG-player should be able to.
I AM TIRED OF JAPS WANK
>>498552785Soul Hackers 2 did it best but no one liked that game so no one really talks about it and those who thought it looked bad don't know about it
>>498553156I'm hoping to see if persona master is better but masked dancer seems kind of shitty to me, especially on Junah since her stats lean so heavily on mag so why give her the class based on versatility. I just hate how it relies on an accessory slot, and for a persona fanservice class it doesn't even let you swap masks mid battle. Now it just feels like a class for people too lazy to build other archetypes.
i love shota
>>498553537because no one wants to play a persona fan's interpretation of smt with playable vtubers. not even persona fans.
WHY DID THE SANDWORM GIVE ME A RARE CROSSBOW WHEN I DONT EVEN HAVE AN ARCHETYPE THAT USES IT
>>498553752but it was a decent game
>>498553505>play game for the primary japanese audience and anicllary foriegn market who happens to enjoy said games>why do they prioritize JapanIt's a mystery.
>>498553676Yeah i went straight into mage and faker tree for Junah haven't used Masked dancer since her intro fight
>>498553156"[arcana] white masks" are crafting ingredients used to make "[archetype] masks" which are persistent equipment.>>498553676It basically gets you extra inherit slots while cheating A-Exp investment.You can do something like train Mage/Wizard, inherit its skills to Masked/Persona's normal slots. And then also equip the Cleric mask for even more skills.
>>498553740based fidelio fan
>>498552785the next mc should be a chad, why are we always a fucking twink
Why would I ever choose Brawler over Warrior outside of the Undead dungeon
>>498554315Japanese males cannot relate to Chad
>>498553840if only if communicated how decent it was in the first place.
>>498554543I mean more people could try it before judging it, no one is asking anyone to burn their copies of SMTV
just finished the fourth dungeonpure ludokino from beginning to endI really hope fatlus starts shitting out dungeon crawlers with this combat systemit's just too fucking good
>>498554369Because HP cost skills are extremely strong for dungeon crawling and brawler tree gets solid debuff attacks etc
>villains are effeminate men who are gay for each other>the only femboy looking playable character outside the MC is actually a girlwhat did they mean by this
>>498554964Brawler is the main reason I get 99 stacks of cheap medicine
Am I supposed to consider the skyrunner charadrius as the 3rd dungeon
>>498519169Just got to the “true” part of the dungeon and came here to basedface over it, insane how I thought the Etrian odyssey 1 references and EOHD sprites slapped onto the 35th album cover were just fanservice to jerk along the paypigs that shelled $80 for the collection on launch (as I did)
>>498555191Yes, it's also why I think there's so a lot more smaller dungeons and requests to do compared to the other chapters ive seen so far
>>498549180>I did the mimic dungeon on hard during a sandstorm and it was fine.lol I had the exact opposite experience, and I was overleveled. The enemies that I did have to fight were waaaay harder. Not having extra turns just sucks, and it makes the player expend extra resources for little reward.
Direct sequel with grown-up Maria in the party, when
>>498555036>femboy lookinghis second sprite is too sex
>>498555551I was literally thinking to myself when I finished her Bond that she could make for a decent protagonist in a potential sequel game
Is there a way to turn off the MC's grunting every time I start sprinting? Shit's annoying as fuck.
>>498544039Metaphor is a hybrid game.
>eupha is the only one surprised at the MC autistically giving a random handshakekek
>go to a dungeon during bad weather >every character acts flabbergasted that weaknesses arent giving an extra press turnjesus christ, SHUT UP
I feel like people have grown way too attached to the word "woke", I'd say the writing in this game is more corny than woke.
>Basilius dumped out a 7,000 damage Synthesis attackWhat a character.
>>498556245every game with social links is meant to be cornythe wokeness is just common sense, which is anything but common to most neets
>>498551372Does it line up well enough or is it just references?
>>498553676It's shitty except for one saving grace. Ignore all the masks equip the item that you can get late game after building up alonzo's story which reduces the turn press of synergies and just have her spam her party charge.
>>498544039Commander line is required for his ultimate class.>>498544781>Only the first one Fiery Strike and Icy Strike are both physical based.>his synergy skills are all magYou're not going to be inheriting the synergies to his main line anyway, and the class itself gives a bonus to magic if it's currently equipped.
Need Maria cunny
Do you guys like it?
If you could swap out any of the existing party members for other characters that have portraits (and would be capable of fighting), would you make any changes?
>>498557862Honestly I wish instead of archetypes we just got all the characters. Maybe do some licence board shit to share skills
Is there seriously no romance in this game? Do any of the female cast even flirt with you?
>>498558036Eupha does, but your character is oblivious.
>>498558036
>Random village carries like 8 Hero Fruits, a couple of Hero Leaves, and Hero RootsSo that's why they can't let you just teleport to villages
>>498557862I would replace dog by with Catherina. It feels criminal that we didn't get her as a party member.
did the demo save this game sales-wise? if so i hope they do a demo for EVERY atlus game going forward.
>>498558219post her true form
>>498558336She's too strong.
>>498557862Replace Junah with Lina (optional recruit that requires beating her and then talking to her before the Brilehaven deadline with Wisdom 2), replace Masked Dancer line with Smithy line (keep the function but instead of accessory slots it’s built into the weapon modularly without becoming too flexible as if its additional inherit slots). Mag Str and Luc spread but shit Agi and End so she can bump Hulk’s turn priority by nature of being slower
>>498558383The game had a marketing blitz on the level we've never seen from Atlus. It was always going to do well.
>>498558034seconding thisall of the bond characters would have been perfect party members
>>498557862Replace Basillo with shortstack old man.
>>498558616Really? i thought the 94 review score and demo really helped the sales for this game.
>>498558336>dogAren't he and his brother cats?
Heismay is the most absurd Atlus party member I've seen what the fuck.
Catherina should have been a party member desu
>rejuvenation pendant>recover medium hp per turn>heals 13 hp per turn on my hulk who has 330 hpwow its literally fucking nothing!!
>>498560143Nothing will ever compared to how game breaking this lil nigga was in Nocturne
>>498560420Fair, Heismay is like 1 tier below Daisoujou
>>498560397Stacking it with other HP resto gear adds up especially when your main damage for that character is using HP cost skills
I am in the second major story dungeon. What party setup should I use?
>>498560143Absurd how?
>>498560397it's bait, there are many things like this in this game, i wonder if it's on purpose or if they just don't know how to balance certain mechanics
Anyone know exactly what Herald's Banner does? Buff for just the person using it, buff for people in the front row, how much is it?
>>498560875just b urself
hate how sneaky they made some of the towers and 1 dungeon? right when you defeat a boss in them it says if you're ok with leaving the dungeon however some of them have a door you can enter after the boss for an item
>>498561121High innate ag to make his passive of 'removing all enemy turns' work. Specially necessary for the dragons and the final boss
if i was a guide user/ 100% perfectionist with the persona games or even THIS GAME (THE MOST QOL RIDDEN ATLUS GAME) Then id kill myself, how can you mutants be so ridden of personality and courageousness
Am I missing something or is there virtually no reason to take more than a day to do the major story dungeons? Even without Mage shenanigans MP management is pretty damn reasonable with all the items you get to restore it. Honestly had a harder time doing P4's dungeons in one go than this game's.
How many dungeons/arcs are in the game?
any advice for the big baby, I'm able to get it real close to death before I basically run out of resources and that is with the big heal
whats the trick behind raising luck again? Also does it pass time?
>>498562202Buffs and debuffs
I think I'm falling in love with Eupha bros
>>498552621General is quite good to level for samurai's half all melee damage taken passive
>>498561797I found MP regeneration pretty hard after the second dungeon but I was underleveled on purpose on hard for a bigger challenge and most fights began to force me to use really expensive skills to finish fights fast.
>>498562369use toilet on the runner on idlesdaydoesn't pass any time
>>498562369Use the toilet in the runner on Idlesday, doesn't take time. You can also check the pantry every day for 2 free ingredients.
>>498562628Ah, right. I'm only on the third one so maybe it'll pick up from here then.
>>498553261Nta but what does it matter how many years has passed if mrf still looks like a ps3 game, just like p5?
>>498562628>underleveled on purpose on hard for a bigger challengeThere always seems to be at least one guy on Travellers' Voices that's like 7 or 8 levels below everyone else whenever I check it.
>>498563448Play enough RPGs for long enough and you'll end up like this too!
>>498563656I've been playing JRPGs my whole life and I still can't break the habit of minmaxing everything. Nothing gives me more dopamine than seeing numbers go up.
>>498563448Thats me Im also running a luck build
i love this game
>>498564210 new thread>>498564210 new thread
Where my demo save bros...
>>498564268Steam Deck/PC I assume?
Gallica is the canon romance even in game lore
