Previous thread >>498564210>Now available EVERYWHERE (but nintendo switch and xbox one)>Metaphor: ReFantazio Special Soundtrackhttps://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_kT8go1ScWljmvHOjpzywgsnV1fI036Ovg>Metaphor: ReFantazio peaks at 85k concurrent players on Steam!>Metaphor: ReFantazio surpasses 1m sales on launch day>MetaphorFix https://github.com/Lyall/MetaphorFix/releases>Kino Commercialhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MDDTdS9rRdA>How many hours have you played?>What day are you on?>What are your favorite classes?>Favorite BGM?>Are you having fun?
I can look past every tribe except the three eyed freaks. I reject them entirely
>How many hours have you played?32>What day are you on?7/2>What are your favorite classes?bralwer, healer, and knight>Favorite BGM?https://youtu.be/6uC88d9nr5g>Are you having fun?yea, its fun and cool.
en dub on the first playthrough and jp on ng+
>grind>dont pay attention>die from overworld attacks>lose all my grinding processAHHHHHHHHHHHHHH
Will is such a dumb canon name. You have all these weird names like Heismay, Hulkenberg, Eupha in this fantasy setting and then there's Will.
You're all making me paranoid with the dragon temple. I'm grinding to get everyone's third tier now.
>>498618840Good.
Allow me to take a moment to bitch about the lost city, this shitmaze is fucking exhausting
>>498618857You don't get it. He is the WILL of the prince. Get it?
>>498618857Fuck you, my name is Will
>>498618857That's because Will is literally the prince's OC
I got pulled into cutscenes and towards the next city for the tournament right after getting Brigitta to rank 4 support, so I couldn't access the unlocked igniters at her shopDo I miss much? Is it even possible to get them before we had to leave?
Eupha is hideous. Thank god Junah is the canon wife for /us/
>>498618880Dragon temple is clearly intended to be done over multiple days and after you do some of the side requests first. So dont worry too much about it if you cant clear it in one go.
>>498618857Why do you care? They let you choose a name at the start for a reason. Stop masturbating to wiki pages.
>>498619241>He didnt do it in one day like a mananon, i...
>>498619260It's because all these normalfags are calling him Will and it breaks my immersion thinking about it when I know people named Will.
>>498619130I thought Maria is our canon wife
>>498619398That's the most autistic shit I've read all week
>>498618857From the default names after changing languages, they all share a common pattern of being taken from a famous monarch's nameEN/JP: Will - William the ConquerorSpanish/Italian: Victor - Vittorio EmmanuelleFrench: Eric - Eric of Sweden. Louis would have also been fitting but that one is already taken by an existing characterPortuguese: Pedro - Pedro of PortugalRussian: Alexander - Alexander of RussiaThere's a good number of now common, mundane sounding names that have really famous origins especially like Louis which is derived from Clovis, the founder of what would become France.
Shitposters lostAtluschads WON
>>498619398>complains about normalfags>types out the most autistic shit humanly possiblecompared to you even the dude bent into an L at the crosswalk on Fenny is a normalfag
>>498619241Will eupha join early or do I need until deadline again like with junah?
>>498619627She only joins after you beat dragon temple
>>498619576Fairy blob toes
Door-kun > Will
>>498619576>bragging about sales that pale in comparison to games like pokemonLmao
>>498619398Just call him Pedro.
>>498619671I saw that the dragon temple is lower in difficulty compared to the side dungeons/requests I got so I guess I might as well rescue Eupha first so she gets a headstart on leveling then
>>498619871>replies with the saddest cope know to manless than one week LOLtime for you to ack
They never address where the heck did Gallica get a fairy size helmet and whatnot right? It kind of came out of nowhere
>>498620173based
>>498620173Wheres the ass
>>498620176>in less than one week it sold worse than other games within that timewoah...
>>498620282in my mouth
>>498620173>not running behind her as she does that
>>498620173I feel like im wasting time doing these random party virtue boosters. Persona games have broken my brain for efficiently using time.
>>498620260at the fairy armor shop of course.Now is there a fairy town? Would love to visit one.
>>498620453good idea I'll do it
>>498620597Do not hotglue the fairies
>>498620305>say the best selling game in Atlus history is the worst sellingdo you Discord troons treat everything like this? Just lie and hope that magic makes it come true?LOL
>>498620685Fastest*, but it's going to break some records for sure and the shitposter is coping extremely hard. It will take time to beat P5 because of how normalfag friendly it was and how it was on P3, then 4, then 5, then Steam, etc. It's been years.
Man it really feels like the game was originally one more month long and (September) Rella had an actual dungeon before dying. Overall the game is actually pretty well paced but it feels like a lot of shit goes down in September with zero room to breathe.
>>498620763>It will take time to beat P5Its not going to. The shitty game already peaked with sales, and word a mouth already has people not wanting to purchase it since it's getting around that its woke as fuck.
>>498620859still coping LOL retard>>498620830I dunno, feels like they are trying out the opposite. Royal and 3R drag like FUCK at the tail end. I guess they haven't found the sweet spot yet, but I bet a lot of ideas from this make it in to P6
>How many hours have you played?80>What day are you on?15 days left to final>What are your favorite classes?easily summoner, dancer animation also kinda cool, destroyer>Favorite BGM?louis fight theme>Are you having fun?10/10 on a 9/10 game
>>498620923>Dumb ass who cant cope with the fact people are backing off because of the SJW propoganda of wokephorLol
>Maria bond 8>I want to help that poor beggar boy...>you do not have enough tolerance for thisYeah damn right I dont.
Why don't the elda tell the king his son was still alive so that he can wake the fuck up and get shit done instead of just sitting there losing hope?
>>498621016>more cope spamyawn get new material faggot
>>498621104You mean more truth and facts.
>>498619576It's pretty cool this game hit 1 million in 5 days. If I were mentally ill retard who was in this general 20 hours a day desperately trying to shit talk the game after spamming "muh no one preordered it's going to flop" for weeks on end, I'd probably end myself. Good thing I am not, though.
>>498621078Didn't they hate the king for abandoning his wife
>>498619543>>498619618these games arent made for your kind
>you get luck everytime you use the toilet in idlesday>do it but dont get any luck>50 hours into the game>been going into the shower instead of the toilet insteadwoops.
Reminder that you can unlock Regicide mode by hex editing your save.Just change the offsets 59 and A80 to 04.
>>498621472Luck is more important for phys builds.
Is severe better than extreme?
>>498621460Persona is literally the normalfag spinoff of SMT, autismo-kun. Then again, when it WASN'T, you weren't alive yet. Never forget 'my kind' were playing these games while you were still a bent sperm your dad's sack, all messed up and ready to do poorly in school.
>>498621626We're not talking about Persona we're talking about Metaphor
>>498621692>these gamesI thought autistic people were supposed to be good with numbers and details?
You guys ever play a great game and you really enjoy it but then you stop playing it because you don’t want it to be over?
>>498621626>Then again, when it WASN'T, you weren't alive yet.Fake fan. There's literally interviews from the Persona 1 days saying it was exactly that
Man, the king fucked up a lot, honestly his death was just an inevitability at that point
Imo P5R>Metaphor>p3>p4G
>>498622156>p5r over any of those gamesgo back to twitter zoomie
>>498622207I’m 35, P5R had a much more enjoyable cast and while the story line is pretty much p4 it’s still holds up. Metaphor’s “much racism bad” theme gets old real fast
jesus fucking christ, the poison dragon superboss is a nightmare. screenshot of the aftermath
>>498621460I mean you're the one seething about it while other people are enjoying it. Seems to me like you're the one this game isn't for given it triggers you so much.
stat points do not remain in ng+ right?not the ones from lvl up nor from training on toilet,bath,etc
I love mage so much /meta/bros…
>>498622347if you think the p5 cast is more enjoyable than any of the casts from the games you listed you are an actual thumb-sucking retard. the p5 cast are the most boring underdeveloped inconsistent niggers alive with the exception of yusuke. id rather it have been a solo joker game than talk to those faggots again
>>498622056post oneI'll wait(you won't)
>>498622462
>>498622056No, pretty much the ad that he posted proves you're a fucking idiotDemon games that made senators shit themselves weren't marketed to 'normalfags' in the 90s, junior
>>498622378Why would stats not carry over into NG+?
>The prince is just Persona 1 MakiWasn't on my bingo sheet
>>498621460>These strangers on the internet that I do not interact with nor want to break muh imushun because I know people in my world who share their name with a fictional fuckboy and it makes me mad, clearly, the issue doesn't lie with me.I sincerely do not know what to tell you, so I'm just gonna leave you be and hope that one day you will realize how retarded your behaviour was and grow from it.
>>498622527so you can't read, got it. Protip: that doesn't say what you're implying it does, retardo
>>498622439You sound like you just don’t like fun, sorry I’m not some bitter jaded person like you
>>498622610>given the popularity of the Playstation with more casual game players, too, we wanted to make a game that they could ease themselves into as well
>>498622610what do you expect from a retard who can't stand people naming the MC his canon name because "he knows people IRL with that name"King Edgar must've made him shit his pants hard, if he even ever played it since it was before his time >Albert from Legend of Dragon>Jack from Radiata>Jeff from Eartgbounddamn this nigga must've been cheesing his pants all through the 90s
>>498622906What are you talking about? I literally just posted a quote from a persona interview
I almost killed myself back in high school because I knew a guy named Cloud and he was gay and sucked dicks and so Cloud in the game was ruined for me
>>498622812>via accessible themes, he says directly afteryou fucking RETARD
>>498623008Cloud from ff7 is also gay and sucks dicks, whats the problem?
>>498623062Yes, a game made with themes that appeal to normalfags.
>>498623112normalfas in the 90s didn't play video games at all, much less the unpopular JRPG genre. You can stop pretending, lil zoom
>>498623081you bring up a pretty good point
>>498623210Your mind is stuck in the west. Persona sold gangbusters back then in Japan, P1 outsold every game that isn't P5
>>498623302>I'm not the autistic guy, I'm just a different autistic guy defending himI named my guy Will too. You upset?
>Stun counts as a status effect for Heismay's Hazy Moon Nightblade, meaning he can start every fight with an AOE thats GUARENTEED to hit a weakness unless the enemy blocks or repels SlashJesus christ
P5R raped that kid's mother. Dumb ass was just waiting for some atlus sideproject so it could latch itself onto it and defend with its life to spite P5R lmao
>>498623443thats right im the op on this topicwhy are you guys acting like im seething at the name will I just dont think it fits in the fantasy setting is all im having a laugh
guess heimsay is permanently on my team now
>>498623443I can't defend what I haven't even read. I just entered the thread and saw someone make the retarded statement "Then again, when it WASN'T, you weren't alive yet", something that even the devs themselves have said the opposite of. If you want to argue against that guy then go back and argue against that guy. I'm just saying that was a retarded statement to make
I think it's a bot, guys. Half of its replies are not even about the discussion at hand.
>>498623609In my experience he still gets hit even when he has an evasion buff and the enemy has 3 accuracy debuffs
>>498623612Persona 1 and 2 were not for normalfags and were as niche as niche could possibly be, and no amount of mental gymnastics will change that.
>>498623609His ultimate class gets that as a passive so you even get his accessory slot back
Metaphor raped that kid's mother. Dumb ass was just waiting for P5R so it could latch itself onto it and defend with its life to spite Metaphor lmao
>>498623448Heismay might not do as much damage as the others but his utility in the endgame is insane.
>>498623685>given the popularity of the Playstation with more casual game players, too, we wanted to make a game that they could ease themselves into as well
>>498623671then throw this on him too
>>498623671Even with the rank 20 ninja passive that halves enemy accuracy?
>>498623686yea im still way off maxxing the classes he needs for it so i'll just throw this on for now
>>498623686His ultimate class better be that fucking good considering how much more expensive it is to unlock than everyone elses.
The Utiliarian's manual accessory reduces turn icon cost of synthesisdoes that mean -1 turn icon or half an icon? if it's a full turn that seems insane
>oh no the weather is bad what will I ever doAlso I spent like 60 before this so I am just boosting.
>>498620495I can't say for sure yet but it feels pretty hard to waste time so far. The only ways I can see you wasting time is going on a journey before unlocking a couple runner SLs, failing at the colosseum or not getting the max stats from an activity. I'm hoping every SL is doable without super tight timing.
>>498623917hopefully it reduces it to one press turn, thrown it on my summoner to test since that gets all the best synthesis skills
>>498623942I can grind mobs but can't post images apparently. Its crazy how that tower full of ogres just fucking oozes xp
I am on the second main dungeon and I am straight up not having a good time. The amount of waste and stalling tactics from fighting even basic enemies is just insane. You'll fucking drain all of your MP just clearing one room because the game pushes you to use constant multi-hit attacks to counter entire swarms of enemies that themselves will spam group attacks and all for absolute jack shit of an XP reward. Or the enemies will just have ungodly Agility for no fucking reason which just makes you waste more MP. So far the biggest offenders are the orange teeth and the fish. Who in the hell on the dev team looks at that kind of shit and thinks "yeah that's fun, just throw in a thousand enemies and we're good"
>>498624080I need to go back there, nothing came close to it for the grind, might waste a day in the endgame just to farm it again
>>498624141I mainly want it to get 100% archetypes on MC, cause no fucking way will I bother doing it for all characters cause that is an insane amount of grind.
>>498623917>>498624010Yep it is one full turnHow is that not the best accessory in the game?
>>498624136the game seems to want you to make progress then back out for a day and rest up before you keep exploring, you can autistically minmax it by using a mage and farming your MP back to full
>>498624238>The game wants to you toNOTHAT'S FUCKING STUPIDIT'S ALWAYS BEEN STUPIDQUIT GETTING SO GODDAMN AGGRESSIVE WITH WASTING MY FUCKING TIME OR ELSE I'M GONNA waste MORE time with mage autism
>>498624194some classes you dont really use the synthesis attacks, like my hulkenberg I have her with the passive that halves all incoming damage and have her set this up. Heismay doesnt really need it either
>>498624371The question is why wouldn't you use synth skills for all party members when it costs 1 turn? The most insane skills in the game are synth skills
>>498624136Then the game isn't pushing you to constantly use attacks that drain all your MP is it? Take them out one by one after stunning them. Endless press turns and they can't attack till the second turn where they should already be dead. Plus you already had mage hours ago, MP is a non-issue
>>498624323
chunkenberg...
>>498624513No anon, that takes MORE MP to whack them off one by one than to do group attacks, but they still stack enemy teams with each tooth coming with a MINIMUM of four, and again, they give jack shit for XP so it's not even worth fighting them, but that's what the game gives you.
That's what you get when you have 100% archetypes on MC huh. The Archetype exp is so damn low on endgame, grinding the max for all is annoying
https://youtu.be/zLQZHperCnAThe music that plays when you get ambushed is so ridiculously good. Really gets the nerves twitching.
>>498624136Did you not do side dungeons before going to the main dungeon?
>>498624642>that takes MORE MPMulti hit skills are all very costly while stuff like basic elemental ones cost barely anything. Also you keep crying about the teeth when after your first run through you out level them and they become an easy MP farm. If you insist on playing like a moron you can still get the MP you need. >they give jack shit for XP so it's not even worth fighting themI really hope you haven't been ignoring attacking on the overworld. Cause this makes it sound like you have.
Finally got to the reveal, fucking hell this is EO1 all over again, even down to how by this point of time you are visiting the 4th town/game....
>>498624783You just need to unlock it, not master them. So you don't need to master say the samurai, dark knight etc which eat up XP. The Archetype Mastery % goes up just from the initial level 1 unlockunless I am wrong
>>498624893Got to the goblin one, but didn't have time for the crypt. Right now, my only options for recovering XP are the moths and that's gonna be a full 45 minutes of dodging feraligatr for one full bar of MP>>498624896>after you're first run throughAlright, but I'm ON my first run through.
>>498624901It is LITERALLY EO1. It even uses the same damn map layout. And a remix of the song that plays there.
>>498624896Oh, and forgot to ask, are you retarded? Smacking 5 enemies one time with a 4 MP is 20 MP, smacking them once with a multi-hit is 14. It's more cost effective to use multi-hitters. Even then, in large groups, unless you swap around inheritance and ensure everyone has the weakness for every enemy, they're not dying in two turns without multi-hitters.
>the not!elves are the ungabunga strong race>the dudes still look like skinny twinks>the women who are stronger than the males arn't any taller nor muscular >Strohl is straight up taller than Hulkenburg, a grown ass woman twice his ageWhy even bother?
>>498624470because some classes have shit synthesis skills and better utility skills to keep the party alive
>completes one dungeonhey I'm finally not underleveled and can win fights without using all my MP!>gets assrapeblasted on the next dungeon and it's not even close
>>498625329doesnt it say they are martial experts rather than ungabunga? They have inherent skill and tactics over the other races. The paripus are the real UNGABUNGA smoothbrains
>>498625058>but I'm ON my first run throughYou beat them now and can easily farm MP off them if you insist on spamming your most expensive skills. Actually there should be a crystal throwing dogs out right next to a safe room. You should be at a level where all the previous enemies are beatable on the overworld. The game has the option for wasteful players right there, use it.> they're not dying in two turns without multi-hitters.You're just straight bad at the game I'm not sure what to tell you. Stunning already halves there health and it shouldn't take more than a spell then normal attack to finish weaker enemies like the teeth off.
>>498625358No "elite" class has shit synthesisThey're way better than normal skills and they usually cost less mana as wellEven support classes got insane support synth skills
>>498625612Im not a fan of Hulkenburgs secret class synthesis skills when I just want her to be a big fat wall
>>498625563Ain't at the crystal yet.>Shouldn't take more than a spell and a normal attackBut it DOES. What the fuck do you want me to do about that? Fistfuck the game into compliance with my wishes?
It's funny to see twitterfags praise Catherina for the "eat the rich" talk(or /v/fags sperg) without knowing she completely 180s on that
>>498625820>What the fuck do you want me to do about that?Learn to exploit press turn and pick off enemies efficiently. Also you should probably not avoid enemies to make sure you're a good level for the area.
>they actually killed Joannaam i the only one who got blindsided by this? what the fuck?
Can you beat the game with just the archetypes from your party members?
>>498620923I see people say this but would anything from this game necessarily mean anything for p6? They have different teams and p6 has likely been in development alongside it
>the storybook is basically describing our world >our world everybody gets along, there is no discrimination, no inequalityLMAAAAAAOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
>>498626056yes, if you also swap hulk for mage for example which you need to level up her archetyle and do the same with others
>>498626056Probably, but it would be really fucking annoying. To get their highest tier ones, you need to go level up shit on other ones. Like to even get Magic Knight after Knight, you need 10 in Mage for Hulk
>>498625123ARE YOU FUCKING KIDDING ME
>>498620859you browse 4chan 16 hours a daynoone gives a shit about it being "woke", only retarded neets
>>498626029good, I kinda wish the monster chewed off her face in its death throes though, would have been a poetic death for the cunt
Where does More shit
>>498625993Nigger, I've gone through the entire Atlus catalogue on damn near every difficulty, I know the fucking routine. But I'm here, not where you think I should be, and I'm expressing frustrations you didn't see. It is what it is
Does your partner matter when doing synthesis skill? like do you deal more damage with partner that has higher attack?
>>498618316Finished the game. Managed to get all the quests done. Easily my game of the year, and Hulkenberg is my bodyguard wife canonically.What does Regicide difficulty alter?
>just hit the ruinsYeah this is the first big difficulty jump, I get what people were talking about now.I'm not going to decrease the difficulty but I am considering a restart just because I can identify all the mistakes I made.The fights themselves are interesting it's just identifying weaknesses that gets annoying. If I go back to town will the informant have information on the enemies here so I at least have a clue what to equip without constant trial and error?
>>498626184I like how skeptical every character is once they read a page of it
>>498620763You're an imbecile if you think this game os going to sell more than P5.
>>498618857I named my protagonist Wilhelm. It fits with the germanic names some characters have and still carries the same meaning. William is also a good alternative.
Where do I get Lord of the lake?
>>498626651Fishing, tail bait. Depending on the thing you say, you might get more than 1
zzzzz...
>>498626184The storybook describes an idealized version of our world as if it was a utopia or something. That's the point. It's a metaphor using a real book as a basis.
>>498621374Anon it hit one million in less than a day this pic is from release day
Everyone in this game talks to much
May have softlocked myself by choosing the Belega Corridor dungeon first and saving there, but I found out I can keep attacking and stunning on field enemies without going into turn based mode and eventually kill them or have a bigger than normal advantage
>>498626184It's not literally our world retard, it's suppose to be a utopia
Can you still do anything after you fight Louis?(again), the 10 days deadline is too short dammit
>>498626184
>>498626242They literally drop all pretense after the arc's human fight lmao
>>498626184Thats why its a fantasy
>>498626803Yes the game continues
>>498621078Several things wrong with that plan. Elda getting an audience with the king is unlikely due to guards/politicians/sanctists hating them. Even if they told him he'd likely see the curse as no better than death. If they did tell him there'd be a risk of being overheard by spies from Louis's retinue.
>How many hours have you played?48>What day are you on?Idk I'm at the end of the Oceana arc>What are your favorite classes?Unga bunga warrior and brawler, faker and knight>Favorite BGM?>Are you having fun?
>>498626504I can think of nothing more pointless than a restartWhat do you think is going to change?
>>498621593Weak > medium > heavy > extreme > severe is usually the progression
>>498626884>Favorite BGM?The opening and the tavern in grand trad>Are you having fun?Yep. This is the best combat Atlus has ever done outside etrian.
>>498626351How do you think he has a million hero fruits to give to you for studying archetypes?
>>498623917>>498624194I beat the bonus boss with it, so I can confirm it's the best accessory.
>>498626184To be fair, even with all the shitty things going on in our world it's still 100x better than whatever they got going on provided you arn't living in squalor in a 3rd world country. Racism is far more encouraged and normalized there and the wealth/power gap is far greater then what we got. And we also don't have eldritch monsters waiting to rape us.
Sugar mommy Briggita keeps sending me money
>>498620859>and word a mouth already has people not wanting to purchase it since it's getting around that its woke as fuck.
>>498625898/v/ has been posting out of context screencaps of that vegan fag's book saying to eat bugs and burn wood to say the game promotes those things without realizing you get more wisdom for pointing out his ideas are shit, so I'm nkt surprised.
unless you are on tryhard difficulties whats even the point of shuffling around characters classes
cat > stupid fairy
Louis is so fun and charismatic I'd probably have voted for him and died
>>498627261Hulkenberg eats bugs so I'm not opposed to the idea>burn woodWait, anti-wokefags are against camping now?
>>498626184>More has an idealistic bias for the past due to his ideals crumbling in life.Whoa no way.
Remember when everyone was coping that the game would go past October and then it didn't. Game is short as fuck, they really spent a decade working on it lmao
>>498627284You can't unlock more advanced classes without at least spreading out classes a little evenly amongst the cast. For example, Persona Master needs Dance Master Max + Faker 10, Soul Hacker needs Magic Seeker Max + Assassin 10, etc
>>498627219He's a /v/ schizo anon. before release, he's been saying the game will flop and only get 50 metascores. Now that the game is a success, he's trying to spin it as woke and better than persona.
>>498627351Hulkenberg eats everything. She's like if Mitsuru had Chie's appetite.
>>498627481*worse than persona
>>498627393I have 80 hours on completion, even excluding the 10 I spent on grinding for the bonus boss that's more than enough for an rpg.
>make a jrpg whose story and themes are heavily based around politics>make it as apolitical as possiblewhats even the point?
Im surprised there's no archetype EXP boost skill somewhere in the game for the end game seeing as how much AEXP you need.
>cuckshitHow do I request a refund when I'm 20 hours in?
>Game is unabashedly against racism, classism, religion, systemic inequality, and advocates for diversity.>No grifters calling it a woke nightmare.>Massive successI don't get it.
>>498627628go back
>>498619998seriously? That should be illegal i suffered in the spirit tower for nothing.
>>498627598Don't engage the shitposter he's been making a different variation of this post since yesterday
>>498625898Strohl being a noble does more good than all the other rich people in the game.
>>498627689What a big forehead
>>498627648Isn't is faster to kill shit with a mastered archetype to get aexp items and use them to level shit up?
>>498627689You don't get to romance anyone anyway, why would you care
>>498627689what's the problem it's not like you're the one getting cucked. in fact, it's impossible for you to get cucked since there's no romance
>Got through the dragon temple bullshit>Finally realize that you get more than a single stat point to allocate when the MC level upI'm gonna fucking kill myself why the fuck am I so retarded
>>498627736Her forehead legit looks smaller without the headband thing
>>498627781yes, that's the fastest way to level
>>498627781When you mastered an archetype, you need 1000 AEXP in order to get the hero leaf which gives 1000 AEXP.So no it's not really faster, you just get an item to spam into one archetype if you want to at the cost of everyone else's archetype EXP.
>>498627781Correct. Mastered archetypes level up faster and give you 1k xp items on level up. I got 60 of those items from a single run through the final dungeon.
>>498627825You don't, but you don't get the level up screen if you level up out of squad combat so the surplus points stick around until you allocate them.
>>498627881Later levels, after about rank 10 I think, require more than 1000 points to level though.
>finished the 4th dungeon>Liked very much>Everyone saying is a big etrian odyssey reference So which etrian odyssey should I play if I never played those games before
What should I cook for this? the cunny roast doesn't work
>>4986280255
>>498628050bake the bread
>>498628050The bread thing with heismay
i want to cum on Junah's forehead
>>498627781No. It's neither faster nor slower. Its "faster" if you need the character on a mastered job to speed up encounters, that's it.
How do you fish once you start flying? Just travel between the vigra island and a dungeon?
>>498627781Not really on later archetypes will demand a lot of aexp
Rella is hot for a bird woman.
>>498627284There is none. It's about as useful as character stats and gear are in XVI.
>>498627693A lot of writers and activists make the mistake of being overbearing. Most people agree with basic stuff like inequality bad, but hate the implication they did something wrong or need to improve. Metaphor spends most of the time both sidings issues or doing very basic but what if we were all nice. Maybe dipping it's toe into the more complex nature of these issues. They'd be screaming at what most people assume is the base line stance for these issues even if they personally aren't very introspective when it comes to them. >>4986280254 or 5. 4 is easier and how Metaphor is set up kind of reminds me of it. It also has lots of little side dungeons and even gives you named companions as you progress.
>>498627284To unlock advanced classes you will need to have others on a certain required level
>>498628367Its the same though. 1k XP on a mastered job, gives you a 1k xp fruit item. It actually doesn't matter about swapping off mastered jobs.
>>498628846If you got 999 exp on mastered job, that exp is basically wasted
>tell the brother about handholding>he supports itNO ROMANCE
>>498628846I meant that it's better to level up your later archetypes naturally since they will demand a lot of aexp to reach rank 20
>>498618316In the end, nepotism is the morale of the story....
Which tribe is your favorite?Which tribe are you racist against and why?
>>498629002Eupha is the canon romance three eyes will rule the kingdom in the future
>>498628706I wouldn't say they don't like the implication that they should improve. Growth and improvement is part of being human. What they don't like is being told something that was never in their direct control is unilaterally their fault. And a lot of activists make the mistake of ascribing the sins of history and the system onto the individual who never had a part in constructing that history or system and don't agree with it themselves.
>>498629120Metaphor: ReNepotismo
>>498628254Please respond
>>498628997Way too min/max to care about that when you can just endlessly farm>>498629106Its no different. If you play Knight mastered, instead of swapping to Mage you can just stay on Knight. You just then spend the fruits on Mage while playing Knight.
>>498629203>Which tribe are you racist against and why?Paripus, pic related is the reason bunch of troglodytes
>>498629203>favoriteEugif they are very cute, especially lina the best candidate.
Metaphor 2 should be in Feudal Japan. I want to play as a Heian Samurai
>>498629676game floppedwe won't get another game
>>498629713Ok tranny
>>498629120It's not nepotism if the king didn't give Will any advantages in the competition. Even Archetypes aren't the usual bullshit advantage because anyone has the potential to use them. The only "unfair" advantage is Hulkenberg's connection with Neuras but life isn't perfectly fair anyway.
>DUUUUUUUUDE LOIUS IS LIKE SUPER DUPER MEGA DUPER STRONG HE'S LIKE THE YOUNGEST GENERAL EVAR AND HE'S LIKE A LEVEL 1000 WIZARD>nearly jobs to an old guy with a knife and got saved by literal plot armorWow I instantly can't take him seriously anymore and stopped caring about him, good job game
Not even worth a reply
>>498629203>Favorite Paripus>RacistI hate those damn lowly elda shits.
>>498629504my god you speedreading niggers can you at least get further than 15 hours into the game before spamposting this image
>>498629971The worlds strongest man irl would get instantly die from someone sneaking up behind it and stabbing a sword into a vital organ. do you know how people work retard?
I like how most people in the city are pessimistic about your rule at best, or outright say not much has changed and they don't expect you to succeed. It's not a rosy ending and I think that's neat.
>>498630063No. My hatred for paripus is already stablished and I have no intention to change that
>>498629225>never had a part in constructing that history or system and don't agree with it themselves.You're kind of just doing what I said here. Easy to get people to agree X is bad, hard to make them grapple with it having far reaching consequences that still apply. Even harder to make them help right those wrongs past we're not gonna do it any more. Nobody likes being introspective and considering if their current situation came at the expense of others. Much easier to say well I personally didn't do it so that's life. Metaphor's whole thing about meritocracy vs equality is pushing against this while avoiding rocking the boat too hard as most just can't really take it.
>>498629956>guided by More
How many main dungeons are there? Getting conflicting messages of 4 and 7. I don't want the game to end bros. Haven't played a 4 niggas in a row game this good since FFX.
>>498630160If I stab Mike Tyson in the neck from behind then he's a shit boxer.
>>498630160He's the anti-metaphor schizo. His style of writing is easily recognizable if you've been here long enough
>>498630185>didn't get the TRUE GOLDEN ending
>>498630160Not anime people.They are supposed to have echo location and 12 senses to feel the """murderous intent""".
>Gold 1 coliseum fightWhat is the gimmick here, I did "okay" using a spell that put on a one-time weakness and spammed it while sometimes healing but eventually I just got one-turn clapped
Damn, he was pathetic! How did he ever get chosen to represent Louis in the race?
>>498630226Not a conscious decision on the king's part, and the most he does is offer advice on how to use an unknown power.
>>498630279>>498630279>>498630279Please nobody ever tells me when I ask :((
>>4986302797
>>498630160Dude shows up to the funeral talking the biggest shit ever and a lot of people already suspected he killed the prince and king did he really NOT expect anybody to run up and shank him or cast Testicular Torsion on him?
Canon mc is mage
>>498630387>he doesnt know>>498630307ah yes the famous stealthy neck stab boxing deflection technique.
>>498630407As with every endgame fight, buff protagonist, debuff with Basilio, spam Royal Sword
>>498630423he tried to give MC the advantage latter when MC is 'dying'
>>498630556Its a 1v1 though, unless I am dumb and you can change party members in this 1v1.
>>498630556I really don't like how the game just gives you the equivalent of a full social links maxed persona for free. Having an Archetype with full resistances given to you trivializes everything.
>MC is weak to one of the enemy's attack>can't swap him out mid battle because fuck you that's whyimpeccable game design fatlus
>>498630704You have to live with the consequences of your choices
>>498630648You are dumb. Prior fights took your party members out and Gallica said to reform the group.
>>498630695>NOOOOOO THE OP RESIST EVERYTHING DEMON IS GIVEN TO ME INSTEAD OF SPENDING 20 MINUTES FUSING IT
>>498630704>retard skipped the opening tutorialI'd tell you how to fix this but honestly I despise helping people who have IQ below 80.
>>498630704>he doesn't know how to press the guard button
>>498630889I bet he also starts at the front row
>>498630536whys that?
>>498630583That's not an advantage, that's him trying to make you give up
>>498630964Because everyone constantly comments how he can do magic without an igniter and also has special Elda magic.
>>498630847>>498630889Oh I'm very well aware of the guard button nigger, but I'd rather deal damage than wasting an icon for guarding
>>498630916>the one commander skill to bring everyone to front and give them 2 attack ups>general skill brings them back and gives them like 3 defense upsAnd thus nobody ever started in the front row again
Please for the love of god tell me theres a stat respec item luck is so fucking worthless and I spent almost 20 points into it and I do absolutely no fucking damage and fucking ailments don't land any better
>>498618316>30 hours>08/23>Surprisingly Magic Knight followed by General>The battle BGM when you fight in an advantage>Yes, quite a while since I last actively wanted to spend my whole day playing this game and am eager for itMaybe it wasnt a good idea running through the Dragon Temple in one day but at least I reached the end of it while ignoring some annoying enemies....is the dungeon boss brutal at level 40?
>>498631083And if you could swap him out mid battle the challenge of the game is gone. You might as well just Google [enemy name] before starting a fight faggot. You get press turns, enemies get press turns too welcome to the 20+ year old press turn system.
>unlock the ability from More to peek ahead to see what certain character bonds unlock and at what levels>start looking through and see a future archetype called Soul HackerI'm gonna cum, I almost feel bad about looking ahead because this would've been hype as shit to unlock blind
>>498630916Is there anyone here that didn't immediately move everyone to the back row?
Maria’s bond quest line is going to make me cry. This is just hardcore bullying! YAMERO!
>>498631159That's nothing.Just start putting it into another stat. Most of the damage comes from your weapon not from stats.
>>498631236I want to bully Maria's hymen
>>498622351Does Basilio's strike weakness inflict work on this fight
What's with these weird playtimes? Some people at the 4th dungeon 30 hours in? I'm 30 hours in and only done the 2nd one just now.
>>498631083If you're a pussy, just die or escape and switch out your class to have resistances to the enemy. If you're not, deal with it and press the guard button or bring a shitton of heals/repel spells. You should be able to do decent damage without the MC anyways
If asmongold was in Metaphor how popular of a candidate would he be?
>>498622439CopeP3 cast is the worst by miles
>>498631190>30 hours >dragon Palace How? Easy mode? Skipping all side content and cutscenes?
FUCK THESE DUMBASS TOWER DRAGONS
>>498631416Depends on who the Palestinians of Metaphor are.
>>498631480Normal and I definitely didnt skip side content nor cutscenes
>>498631416Really popular, he'll deem that certain tribes have an inferior culture and will advocate for genocide. He'd fit right in, honestly.
>>498631416I am pretty sure a number of the people who watch him arent there because they genuinely see him as an inspiring figure or anything
>>498631619>"Why should I be fucking sad about the genocide of the Paripus when you know damn well they'd be doing the same thing to you if they could!">face grows considerably in the king's eye
Ambush=rape
I'm at the start of October, is this game like p4 where it skips if I do the story dungeon?
>>498631978How are you in October and still don't know that?
>>498631416>>498631561>>498631619>>498631685>>498631883what the fuck are you retards on about
>Even at the end of September, MC is only second in popularity Fucking how? The weak/poor are always the masses how can Louis even be #1 after saying they all should die?
It’s interesting, if you talk to a bunch of fairies over the course of the game you’ll realize that Gallican’s journey has changed her substantially. Most fairies are basically unable to be serious and basically just hang around people for sake of amusement at their problems and suffering. They are also incredibly long living (if not entirely immortal) and therefore have no real sense of urgency regarding time. When Gallica talks to her fairy friends they remark how she’s acting like a person with how serious she is, her unwillingness to drop everything going on to play and her use of words related to time like “tomorrow” and “a few months ago”.
I'm simultaneously taking things slow but also want to see what it still has in store for me so bad. I need answers but I don't want it to end. I love this fucking game, bros.
I hope the combat gets more interesting later on, 20 hours in on hard and it just feels like a rock, paper, scissors simulator. I like the music and cutscenes at least.
Which world is more racist our world or metaphors world?
>>498632196women
>>498631492>Accidentally lucked into killing them in the best possible orderI pity anyone who decided to take on Blind Faith first.
Does mage not get any aoe spells except through synthesis? Why does physical get so many aoe attacks, and some archetypes even get aoe spells at base, but the literal mage has to use synthesis to get any aoe spells?
>>498632996it depends on your party comp dummy, pair it with another caster for aoe magic
>>498632975Is it even possible? I can't imagine doing it without having every piece of armor that nulls Fire so you can kit out four party members
>>498632996You get an AOE spell archetype later on in the story that's why.
>>498632996That's the tradeoff for getting to easily hit weaknesses really hardAs the game goes on AOE attacks become a liability anyway because there will be one fucker with reflect slash that makes Strohl oneshot himself
>>498632642First Atlus game?
>>498632239So the fairies act essentially like fae from typical high fantasy then or even a bit like some fantasy elves then
>>498633083I had 3 pieces of armor and just spent a turn throwing Makarakarn on MC. I think you could get away with at most 2 party members in null fire with that armor, but it'd be a long and boring slog.
Who should I have sex with for the festival?
>>498632898Metaphor’s. Paripus are nearly exclusively homeless, criminals or igniter test subjects because next to nobody is willing to hire them for any job, even food service stuff because they are perceived as filthy. There’s no race IRL that is so universally despised they can’t sell their soul for minimum wage. The Elda were almost completely genocided and nobody even holds it against the king or the church, who still hold wide support.
Gee Eupha, how come your mom lets you have TWO side dungeons? Also man its kind of annoying how you have to spend an entire day just to fight one fucking bozo on the road now. In general the way the flying runner works kind of annoys me.
>>498632196Poor people vote for people who don't care about them all the time
>>498633102First I've stuck with yeah, could never get into the settings of the others I tried.
>>498632996Aoe is almost worthless for 80% of this game, unlike Persona. You lose turns for any miss so it's better to just do single target. Once you get to the end then it becomes more viable.
>>498633130Yeah, they’re so whimsical and flighty they’re not even really aware of what’s going on around them. Unlike Gallica who is very responsible.
Can a human have sex with an Fairy? Asking for a friend...
>>498633337I was kind of surprised that General actually gets an AoE Almighty/Megido spell which is a middle finger at resistances at least
>>498633321Rock paper scissors is the entire game until you get a phys/almighty build going and crit to victory
>>498633083it's pretty much a pure gear check, you either have the appropriate fire/charm repel shit or you might as well not bother
>>498633423>HumanNot unless you're into vore
>>498633459Oh well. At least it looks pretty.
>>498633423No but an elda can
>>498633337AOE is very good in this game. The AOE spells don't have power reduction or hit penalty like in SMT so they're literally just a straight upgrade unless something null/drain/reflects it in the group.
Our Hero
I've rest like 12 times looking for a weakness this fightkino!
why does she have bug eyes
is there a list of what appraisable items give somewhere?
>>498634117I warned you about eating bugs, bro!
>complete More's bond 8>i know everything now but i cant tell you because it'll stop your archetype growthUhhh okay?
Charge/Concentrate worth using here? I know it's not in SMT V
>>498634327It's not like he's wrong
>>498630846This but unironically.
>>498634117>drinking water Eupha was bathing ingod i wish that was mesex with junah without the glamor doko
What are the best archetypes to master for the MC so that i can inherit some skills to make him even more broken for the end game? I've been neglecting just about everything except seeker tree.
>>498633659Understandable since most aoe early on will cost 2 actions to use
>>498618316>How many hours have you played?29 + demo>What day are you on?8/21>What are your favorite classes?i dunno they're all pretty boring>upgrade class>can no longer use any buttons>have to pay to use old buttonsexcellent system atlus, punishing the player for advancing not even switching classes, just upgrading your current one locks you out of all that you already earned AND you get worse statsholy shit this is beyond stupid>Favorite BGM?it's pretty mid so farboss theme is by far the worst>Are you having fun?yes, despite the issues i've done 2 12+ hour sessions and ended up going to sleep at 4 am the other day so i had to call in sick because i barely got no sleep
>>498634398Concentrate is called Hyper but yes it and charge are very good.
>>498634691I'd say Commander/Faker for mass buffs and debuffs
>>498634705You can still use old classes, the stats aren't worse, and unlocking old skills for inheritance is a trivial sum.
>The superboss that is a copy of the main character cycles through a different archetype every turn>He starts using a move that gives him 4 press turns every turn when he gets below half healthIm getting my ass beat
>the price's ideal fantasy hero bangs three eye chicks and uses a fairy as an onaholeSpecific fantasy prince-kun but respect
Is it better to wait til the last minute to do dungeons or finish them ASAP? I'm new to atlus games.
>I didn’t choose the right archetypes to grind to unlock the Elite/Signature archetypes of your party membersWell, damn. Better luck next NG cycle, I guess?
I spent like 3 days on the runner doing nothing cause I thought I was moving lol, shit
>>498634870>10k+ mag for the good ones>need to flex other classes for weaknessesnah, also i need that shit for the mag exchange so i can buy all the geari read the merchant thing gives you a lot though but i haven't used with because it costs 100 fucking mp
>>498634943It's a personal choice. I usually find it best to just get them out of the way so you don't have to worry, but the more key thing is to beat them in one run instead of taking multiple days.
>>498634943i'd say it's generally better to max your followers etc first because that'll give you an advantageit was more important in persona thoughi tend to do min maxing > side stuff > main quest
Why is there so much specifically anti dragon equipment for the golden beetle stuff but you dont find any dragons in the game?
>>498634943The end result doesn't change, the only issue is if you do the dungeon first you might hit a wall and need to retreat thus wasting a day. Meanwhile if you did side dungeons you might steamroll the main dungeon which gives you more free time later. Basically never want to "have" to use more than a day in a dungeon
>>498635260Does he know?
>>498633671more!!
>>498635260you're asking for spoilers
>>498634924My strat was>MC Almighty boost from TycoonEndure from Martial ArtistMagic Link from elemental masterArcane unity from wizardAnd the synthesis turn reduction accessory from night shop>JunahBuffs and debuffs>EuphaHeals>HulkenbergThere to use her lightning move that reduces defense and omni counterOMNI COUNTER WON'T TRIGGER HIS 9999 MOVEI just focused on debuffing him primarily and dispelling debuffs from the party. Synthesis almighty prince move costs 20 less mp so it's more viable to spam and does a fuck of damage. I ended up killing him by the time he hit prince the first time.
>>498635381>>498635352Oh okay. Guess I'll keep chugging along then.
>>498634691i only skilled magic on my mc so i'm taking mage/healer/seeker
>>498635260Did you forget you could already fight a dragon in the mine at the start of the game
Why does Strohl have the same facedown ass up that’s the way we like to fuck stance as Ann
>>498634943It's down to preference EXCEPT in the dragon's temple. Finishing that ASAP gives you a party member. Other dungeons just unlock a follower to rank up at most.
>>498635610He's an onahole
>>498635073>Giving up mag to buy gear>Can't read merchant's passive skill description Oh no, it's retarded.
6/10 at best desu
I've been going to akademia every time I wanted to change my archetype, I didnt know you could do it in the equipment screen.
https://x.com/murasaru7/status/1846410836979380520
>>498635828>Announcing that you got filtered.
>>498635863You must to go Akademia and talk to your friend More and pet the cat
>>498635863its something you unlocked with the seeker links
>>498635953I thought it would make an ARCHETYPE option in the main pause menu so I jut forgot about it
>>498635793how much does that give? i don't grind unless im absolutely out of mana
What level am I supposed to be at for these dragon fights? I'm around 50 and the one that repels everything takes a million years even debuffing him every turn and abusing prince's blade synthesis.
if Hulkenberg says 'tis or 'twas again I am shooting my monitor
>do sidequest>boss 20 levels above me>grinded 5 levels>won easily because turns out third tier skills are far more important than stat>get to main story dungeon>instakill everything because I'm overlevelledi wish there's an option to turn off instakill
where is the acc from that gives more exp for arche
>>4986363261000 extra per monster
>>498636348Hark! 'Tis apparent this anonymous poster is seething!
>>498636564hm not sure i'll need it anymorei get so much extra from bounties and requests now and i'm not overleveled anymore i'm pretty sure
>Hulkenberg gets charmed>"Oh! Your majesty...!"She wants Will's dick.
Is there any difference in virtue gain from training a virtue through a town npc vs a follower vs a book?
>>498634398>I know it's not in SMT VSo you're braindead then? Just because it's not worth using literally every other turn doesn't mean it's not worth using.
>We forgive you, woman that has fed children to a monster and shows no remorse
>>498637035some books can give you extra points if you pick the right choice and also when you finish them>>498637090>we forgive youyou arrest her and she gets executed
>>498637090>t. speedreader
>>498637147>NOOO HE SHOULDN'T HAVE KILLED HER SHE SAID SORRY
>>498634924Tetrakarn/Makarakarn+Knight's Proclamation and use the crown that gives you an extra blinking turn icon
>>498637249they were mostly shocked they chopped her head off right then and there in front of everyone desu
>>498636093well there kinda is, on the right, but I know what you mean
>you have the complete freedom to build your party any way you want!>btw Strohl's unique warrior archetype requires the full commander lineage, Hulkenburg's unique knight archetype requires the full mage lineage, and Heismay's unique thief archetype requires the full gunner lineage
>>498636342PLEASE RESPOND
>>498637496>he didn't make eupha an Unga bunga
>>498637496You don't have to use their unique archetypes.
>>498636415I think some of its designed to be much lower, to farm mana back up. There will be level 20 enemies, mixed in with 30-35, and the boss will be 45.
>>498637496You have the freedom to not pursue those
>>498637496>anime poster is retardedfigures>>498637508early 60s minimum on normal mode, do the bounties and other sidequests you get in that free time period first to level up, leave the dragons for last
>>498634156No idea but i got one of the purple quality shop weapons as a appraisal once from the shop in your picture.
Uhhh Louis was right though
>>498638656Burn my bread!!!
I think I'll do my Regicide playthrough as Mage MC with no Royal Archetypes. Will make me feel better about playing Mage MC, plus should be fun playing with all the other options.
>>498638656I think he Will
>>498633083You will have at least one Null Fire gear even without visiting. That's enough to shut down turn where he Flame Breath spams. And you can kill him before then anyway, I almost had him dead on that turn. I had 2 members Null, the rest just tanked it.
>>498638315>>anime poster is retardedWhat...what game do you think you're playing?
how does equipment and weapons work? When I get a new archetype, is it creating new equipment? Can I sell this stuff?
>>498639298If you don't have anything it will equip an Innocent version of the classes weapon on you which is not sellable and is the lowest base ATK version of the weapon type.
>>498620830That part kinda reminded me of Persona 5 after the casino palace but I just thought there would be more story until Louis turns everything to shit and you have to prepare to fight him.By the way, are the Dragon Trials really mandatory? I got the feeling when I was doing it that it was optional content, but it was referenced in story cutscenes later which confused me a bit.
>You can't steamroll NG+ with the new Armageddon because you don't get access to it until endgame I kind of with Regicide was just balanced around having access to all your archetypes from the start. Having to wait to use new stuff kind of goes against the sort of replayability these game systems offer
>>498639412thanks
>>498638656Burn
Is this game actually good or is it just "Muh Racism": Persona Edition?
>>498639912fuck off
>Wonder what does one lift do out of curiosity before going to the end of the Dragon Temple>Turns out if I didnt do that I would have missed an entire floor worth of loot and enemies...Oh, no wonder it seemed I did it too fast
Is it worth killing the baby monster when he's chasing you? This fucker has like 6 billion HP and I've been here for half an hour
>>498639276theres a difference between liking anime and posting anime reaction images you cock gargling retard
I may be tripping here but this game's gameplay is just completely awfulThere's 0 party customization compared to SMT and all the archetypes look like plastic toys, too
>job system>zero customization Wow smtfags are dumb huh
>>498640295You're just bad at RPGs, it's okay.
>>498640380>Jobs with like 4 attacks>4 inheritable skills (they're all going to be passives)Wow amazing customization Atlus this is totally not just demon fusion with extra steps, truly revolutionary system
The EN dub is pretty good ngl
>>498640295I hate how little identity archetypes have, you're pretty much just leveling them for the inheritable skills. Besides that you're just equipping whatever has the best stats and resistances.
>>498640737Or what Synthesis skills it has access to with your other party members, or based off the best gear you currently have access to...
>>498640737What's baffling to me is that to equip the next tier of archetypes 99% of the time their level needs to be maxxed, so it's not even a case of "oh maybe I'll wait to finish upgrading this one to inherit the skill for the next one"You HAVE to do it anyways. The archetype tree is stupidly restrictive.
>>498640886When I got to mid-end game I barely cared about synthesis skills. Eating so many turns+ twice the cost for a marginal increase in damage just makes them not worth it when you already have strong base skills.
>>498640907This reads like meovvcat cope
>miss>the rest of my turn is cancelled>all enemies focus on one person, killing them
>>498639912Bumping my question since only a Rédditor replied.
>>498639547It's not mandatory, but it does add dialogue to the story
>>498639912So far to me it just feels like Persona but with a medieval setting and worse characters. I would've scrapped completely all the persona systems and I don't think the game would've lost anything because of it.
>>498639912>>498641165Fuck off
>Get to boss fight>Nigga with more HP than an MMO raid boss>Repeat the exact same skills for 20 turnsI'm kinda hating this
the crazy inventor should have been a big titted oneesan instead of this...thingI swear some of the design choice are so hit and miss
>>498639912It's Persona with the first good party since Persona 3.
>>498641397Welcome to turn based game
>>498641117Pic related>>498641397Pic related
>>498641605I don't have a single class with decent buffs yet
>Catherina has one of the most detailed outfits of the support characters>gets a special skill where she appears in dungeons and helps you out Feels like she was cut from the main cast
>>498641414Jack off before you post.
>the same awaken/arc episode story telling since p4Persona 4 literally killed atlusWhy can't we have something like p3 ever again
>>498641683I would've literally replaced any of the fucking deadbeats we got for her. My God I fucking hate Strohl
>>498641025Being able to get two press turns with one action that is of comparable strength is very powerful, not to mention creating weaknesses. Opening with hitting a weakness using a Synthesis into buffing/debuffing is great. I didn't use Synthesis skills much either but then I started towards endgame since I got accessories for them and I should have used them more earlier.
>>498641783P3 was dogwater especially from a story perspective Easily the most boring game in the atlus catalog
>>498641397>orgas
>>498641783I don't mind but my God the awakening scenes in this game are ass compared to P5's. They're so bad they make my skin crawl.
>>498641683Most likely.
>>498641836Eupha and Heismay are my favourite, Basilo comes way too late into the plot to feel relevant at all though. Should have recruited Godell or something
Pure Luck build is really bad until it's suddenly really good. Mostly down to Merchant I think.
I wish there was interesting loot in this game
>>498642207You're joking
>>498641439Is there someone as FUCKABLE as Naoto?
>>498641958Fuck you
>>498642334Ew
>>498642207Dude, this is probably the best Atlus game ever on this front with all the stealables and the plethora of amazing endgame gear they give you.
How many STR is enough?
>>498641783>>498641958Next we will cycle back to wokeposting
>>49864241474-79 is what you need depending on whether you're using +5 Accessory or not. You get 1 point of STR every 5 levels or so from natural level-ups, but the effects of other stats are minimal so it's fine to overcap it a bit.
Are there soft caps and/or hard caps to stats?I just hit 50 LUCK natural.
>mana/hp costs exponentially increase>mana/hp does noti fucking hate this game sometimes>don't hit weak points>die>hit weak points>oom in 10 battleswhy is masked dancer and gunner so expensive
>>498642659>masked dancerThe class that has a natural SP regen passive and can also get another one with a Wizard mask which is the best mask for a large portion of the game anyway?
>>498642659Time to equip that mage archetype and beat up mooks for 40 minutes, BUDDY
I just got heismaywhen does the story get good
>>498642659I'm at level 25 and have a level 20 merchant and the money drain skill is like 100 MP. Is the rest of the game like that or is that an outlier?Maybe the bright side is everyone can use skill inheritance to learn Mana Drain? I haven't tested it to see how much party members earn from using mana drain or if it depends on the enemy's regular level, maybe in dungeons you can press Y to engage in regular battles with trash mobs and use them as mana batteries?
The party members after Heismay didn't have enough time to marinate like the first three imo. Eupha kinda feels like an npc. Junah ended up having a lot of plot relevance though. I found the very last member worked the best character-wise out of the last three since the arc built up over multiple parts but it still feels WAY too late
Is this Metaphor behind the death of western gaming industry or something? Why can't /v/ stop seething at this game
>>498643029When she did this
>>498643054They learned nothing from Haru in p5.
what do you need to steal from to get good seeker weapons?
>>498643046Around here
>>498643054That's what happens when you get new companions 30 hours in.
>>498642895oh neat didn't see that
>>498643054The game needed more breathing room. Late game pretty much has the exact same issues as P5. The plot kicks into overdrive which gives no time for the newer members to really feel like they're part of the group. Hashino seems to have an issue with this in general since once everybody joins up then the plot goes into hyper speed.
>>498639912Yes its only about racism and woke. Dont play it and dont post in these threads ever again.
Absolute fucking KINO. Fucking love this dude
>>498643270Yeah, with that and a Wizard mask you have 3 innate elements plus whatever you can inherit that you can use every turn for free and gain SP.
>>498643261Every time they read from this shitty book I can't help but roll my eyes. The only character so far that had an interesting comment about it was Heismay.
>>498641683will be a new party member in the complete rehash edition
>>498643569Wrong, they'll add a completely new and irrelevant girl then they'll poorly shoehorn her into the plot
>>498643649The Atlus tradition since P4G.
>>498618316>How many hours have you played?27>What day are you on?06/30>What are your favorite classes?Seeker, Brawler and Knight (for the moment)>Favorite BGM?Warriors in Arms (sometimes I do Squad Battles just to hear it)>Are you having fun?Yes as any JRPG, I'm not that deep into the game to fully say it, but I'm just grinding my ass out with the Merchant passive skill and just grinding A-Exp, already level 26 and still not in the second main dungeon... wish there was an item that would stop me from getting EXP I one shot everything in the overworld What can I say? I like to min-max a lot
>>498643649Royal was so clunky cause of this.Just random cutscenes to remind us that hey she is here but wont join your party until at like 75 hours.Maruki was done so much better and felt like a full character.
>>498643775what difficulty
>>49864263170-75 for Str/Mag/End/Agi, 71-76 for Luck.You don't need to put more than ~55 points into a given stat via direct levels.
>>498643113Critically and commercially successful woke game which mindbreaks the get woke go broke crowd
So the idea is to postpone doing the dungeons until the final day or something?
I have a big weakness for putting historical people in your fantasy project. "Yeah lol here's Thomas More" goes hard
>>498643848Hard, kinda want to go harder difficulty, was pleasently surprised when I got Enemy disadvantage at the first hours and the enemies kicked my ass... still used Resurrects to barely win, but loved having my ass kicked and strategize for a bit
>>498643837The funny thing is when people dug into the files for Royal and found some beta stuff it was indicated she was initially going to join when Morgana was still the party's navigator, so Atlus did play with the idea. I think the issue that they faced is Marie and her reception made Atlus re-think that, so you ended up with a party member who is restricted to the very final dungeon of the game.She ended up being like the 2nd to 3rd most popular girl in the game, so maybe Atlus will take more risks with their next re-release girl. I would say VV was pretty kind to Tao and the new girl in making them feel like proper heroines.
>>498644004On the contrary, you want to do them sooner rather than later because they lock social links and other forms of progression which help you with the generally more difficult side content.
>>498644085what's the point of going higher difficulty when you'll just be grinding 30 hours to overlevel
Why does a game about themes of inequality work in Metaphor but not Final Fantasy XVI?
I play on storyteller difficulty
Merchant with the double damage double cost abacus seems busted at this stage of the game (Heismay arc)
This game just taught me that racist people are horny
>Final boss theme plays the Akademia themeK I N O
>>498644294You are missing out on absolutely nothing important
>>498644216Hey... dont blame me, blame my "beat the dungeon on the first day" schizo side, I got OP because I wanted to beat the first dungeon on the first day, so I spammed the fuck out of the Magician Archetype to regain SP and then... I got overleveled a bit, and now I will do the same probably on the second dungeon
>mimic appears>don't have gold attack or hama equipped>party member weak to attacks>can't escapeoh well guess im sitting here for the next 10 min
>Decide to rush into the Palace>Everything is like 5 levels above meYup. I made a mistake. What is a good final side area to go tackle?
You know what I FUCKING hate?The fact that status effects don't let you use synthesis skills, especially when every enemy and their mother inflicts you with ebola.
>>498644780This is good design.
>>498644650just check for enemies before you open a chest
I like Strohl and I can't think of anything in particular I would change about his character, so why does he bore me?
>"CONGRATULATIONS YOU'VE AWAKENED TO A MYTHICAL POWER ONLY WIELDED BY THE MIGHTIEST RULERS OF OLD. YOU WILL BE ABLE TO CONQUER THE HEAVENS AND SHAKE THE EARTH AND>Gets 1shot by a ratWhy are Atlus games like this
>>498644219Metaphor created a fairly recognisable world and has characters talk about it in a basic way. Circumstances and culture have created division. The well off don't want to lose their advantage, the derided get lost in petty squabbles and putting survival first. FFXVI and a lot of other games make analogies where some super mega powerful group are the oppressed, but actually there are downsides, oh actually it was for a reason, hey look alien god represent how we're all oppressed.
>>498644946His character doesn't have that much room for growth because the game positions him as in the right. They have to go back to him being a kid where he doesn't understand shit about social dynamics to try to paint him to be flawed. In actuality he's the perfect representation of noblesse oblige and doesn't struggle much with embodying those ideals or grow into them. I think this is the main issue.
>>498645027Skill issue bro just play on easy lmao
>>498645027great power is useless to a retard
Eupha's 2nd dungeon is very good for EXP damn
Why the FUCK is Hulkenberg so utterly useless? She gets crit twice as often as the others, her tanking skills are useless because every enemy just spams AoE, and her attacks don't even tickle enemies. She's literally dead weight.
>>498645362If you're somehow so bad at the game that one of the most useful party members sucks then you need to spend less time bitching here and more time getting better.
Who's the best party members?
>>498645508Junah, Eupha, Basilio and pick your buffslave, any of them will do, Hulk-chan probably has the best utility in her unique class. You swap the buffslave out when you're buffed up.
>>498645038I recall its a very common Final Fantasy plot structure to eventually end with the reveal of some world-ending supernatural threat thats responsible for whats wrong with the world that you have to beat up and implicitly beating them up would fix the society it creates and whatnot. It doesnt tend deeply analyze the problems of society I feel. Aside from FFXVI I do remember how the setting of FFT has the whole crappy noble/commoner disparity, hierarchy problems and stuff but in the end you mainly beat up a monster anyway.
>The calculation's pretty weird, but general rule is each point of weapon attack is worth 0.9 base damage, and each point of str/mag is an extra 1.18% of damage done. So if you had a weapon with 50 atk and 30 magic vs 70 atk and 15 magic on someone else, that'd be 68 vs 82 even before the other stuff like skill power/weakness/enemy defenseLooks like just doing 2 Str/2 Mag and rotating Agi/End/Luck is the way to go.
>>498645658Junah isn't that good desu
>>498646068Nigga you crazy
This fight is ass
>>498626184The real books "Utopia" and "Uchronia" describe a perfect fantasy world, but the fantasy world in the game isn't perfect.
How fucked is the setting?
>Everyone has an english accent>Except for mc-kun and gallicaUm..
>got out of work early today>Metaphor loadedIt's gaming time
Knowing that the super fast chanting in the songs are actually sutras done by an actual monk rather than just random gibberishfeels insane...https://www.youtube.com/@nankyokusensei/featured>>498646148GTFO of there, its 100% not worth it
>>498646296What are the rewards? If I keep debuffing it there's no way it can kill me, but I've been here for a while because it's so tanky that I keep leaving to do other things
>>498646403A Health Incense.
>>498646148You're not supposed to fight it
>>498645743The plot twist that the supernatural aspect twisting people into acting violent is actually a natural part of the world that the antagonist had no part in was refreshing. Beating him doesn't solve society's problems, only opens the door for change to happen if people want it.
>>498646470Oh fuck that then. Thanks.>>498646489The dragon dropped something nice, so I thought this could be the same.
>>498646117her royal archetype is pretty lame, same for Hulk
Does the MC get any kind of special battle skill later in the game? All allies have cool passives but I don't
>>498646267
>>498645743FFX came the closest to a meaningful commentary on fatalism and propaganda. Sin is a giant monster, but the culture that it created causes a slow death for the world because people have been conditioned to accept it and the Yevonite religion as a fact of life.
>>498646719MC gets Hero passives for each archetype.
>>498646590It's disappointing how she doesn't have a nice Synthesis attack to use the highest MAG stat in your party, but she still hits hard, naturally picks up Debilitate and can support a wide variety of attacks with weakness creation. I suppose she loses value when you have 1-turn Synthesis but that just leans her into a more supportive role and she was still doing tons of comparable work before then.
MC is virgin
>>498646590Hulk's royal archetype made the bonus bosses lose like five 6 turn icons thanks to Omni Counter.
>>498646296where's the exact video of the chanting?
>>498646884But those are all for out of combat stuff, aren't they?
alright whatever. i think i'm finally free of that board for good now. context: it wasn't even a metaphor thread.some people just want to do nothing but drink more koolaid
>>498647191its crazy how many people are falling for the discord tranny raids
>everfrost forestI literally cannot see shit. Might have to actually skip an optional dungeon.
Human bad
>>498647191Anon listenListen to meIf you want to actually discuss games, /v/ and most of the time /vg/ too are absolutely worthless.
>>498647367and yet there are no other places to discuss videogames on the internet...
>>498647367In general, the slower /vg/ threads seem better for discussion I feel...with a few exceptions
>>498647303>he doesn't navigate by staring directly at the map like a true dungeon crawling veteran
>>498647191/v/ is really at the point where it is straight up unusable. You can sometimes squeeze in a thread that is actually people discussing shit, but for the most part it is very rare and all it takes is one schizo to ruin everything. I really wouldn't mind if they implemented what they did on /biz/ and /vg/ site wide because I don't think this site deserves as much freedom as it had in the past because of all the fucking schizos now.
How does the 3rd main dungeon work with you not being forced to do it in one go?
Thank you Anons who said to do the dragon temple earlier. Arrived here before doing the Bandit Cyclops in Trad and so far its just blue enemies to grind.Much more manageable then the tower of horror on heatwave.
>>498647437when the schism happened nearly a decade ago "atechan" was actually the best place to discuss games, shame the feds fucked it all up after the christchurch shootings
>memorandum says that female elves are physically amongst the strongest of the tribes>hulk is named hulk>canon classes are low STRWhy
Oh so we attack on titan now
>>498647732She would rather take a beating then give it out.
>>498647535Wait what did they implement here?I was wondering why these Meta generals have been so... normal.
>>498647732Atlus is absolutely allergic to female companions with high STRI don't think there's a single one out there
>>498647732She has the highest endurance of the party, meaning she can take more hits than anyone, meaning she's the strongest by a certain definition. I make sure to feed her strength incenses and max all her archetypes so my wife is powerful though.
Lets all play
>>498646975Heismay does it better no ?
This is the first Atlus game in which my MC feels like the weakest in the partyIs it time for me to become the buff bitch...?
>>498643158Disagree, they actually learned a lot. The party member i actually have the most issues with is Eupha because unlike the other two late joiners she wasnt introduced earlier - Junah and Basilio skip the Haru dillema because theyre major parts of the plot and cast long before they become playable
>>498648324Bro your luck build?
So who wants to be gunner?Strohl so he can actually deal damage?
>>498648008Etrian Odyssey has some high STR women. I cannot think of any examples in their other games, though. Devil Survivor 2 had a lot of ST-MA women hybrids, but I'm struggling to think of a woman in Atlus games that is a ST main.
>>498648008Aigis and Metis?
For those of you who have finished the game or are late game, can you tell me how impactful the stats actually are? Im worried its going to just be nothing but "Pick INT or STR" and thats it because LUK and AGI are super weak secondary stats.
>>498648369I will NEVER play merchant. NEVER.
>>498648324Everything changes once you get their exclusive Archetype, but if you built the MC wrong then you are kind of fucked.
>40 fucking degree Chow do people even live like this?
>>498648445>Im worried its going to just be nothing but "Pick INT or STR"This is correct, though you stop investing into your main stat before the end of the game because otherwise you would overcap it. The effect of other stats is minimal. EN is likely the best one since it has a guaranteed tangible effect.
>>498648376Heismay because he needs to level it for his ultimate class
>>498648545Can you tell me what level you generally cap you main stat, and what level you finished the game at? Do most people intentionally try to reach 99 or is that silly levels of grind? I like grinding anyway.
>>498648663you want to stop levelling your stats at around 70-75 because the boosts from your class and gear should get you to 99
>>498648432Eh? Those two have super low strength. Even Junpei is stronger.
>>498648008ChieMakotoAigisMetis
>Eupha's max relationship rank scene is just you and her having unprotected sex on the deck of the runner
>>498648452>merchant>luckthe almighty ability scales on str
>>498626184>>498626706>>498627364that’s probably because they have never seen dystopian fiction, like 1984, brave new world, or cyperpunk, before.
I hate Elda tribe
>>498648324Protagonist is the strongest in the party bar none once you hit the endgame. All of my strategies at the end boiled down to enabling him to be the sole damage dealer
>>49864866373-79 depending on gear. I'm still in the final dungeon but I believe I will end the game in the mid 70s, I never grinded and played on Hard. I can't even imagine going to 80 unless there is a lot more content than I expect.
>>498648376Strohl doesn't need gunner to do damage. I only ever dipped into Tycoon for crit boost and Berserker for charge and then general for his ultimate archetype
What is more fun str, magic or both?
>>498648420Hinako is Str/AgiIzuna is also Str oriented.
>>498649119>Izuna is also Str oriented.I forgot this woman existed, there you go. I remembered Hinako but I consider her more of an AGI main.
>>498648445I made my MC a jack of all trades guy and with enough gear, maxed archetypes, and incenses, I was 70+ in every stat. It isn't nearly as punishing as other Atlus games, but the final archetype favors Phys.
>>498649086>STR gets Physical attacks, but also Physical Magical/elemental attacks>Magic doesn't get Magical Physical attacks
Anyway the main thing is I've definitely never seen a woman in an Atlus game with a statline like Jungo or Basilio.
>>498649086As usual, mag is fun early on but phys becomes the objectively best element in the late game. Basilio permanently benched Strohl after I saw he can do elemental phys with stat drains AND pierce resistances AND give an enemy a permanent weakness to Strike.
>>498648770>Chie and MakotoBoth are STR/AG, not STR. A pure strength character like Kanji has almost capped strength, they have around 70.>AigisShe's an EN character, like Hulk. Her strength is pretty low>MetisProbably the closest, but she's still not a STR character. She caps at 80 or so.
>Eupha’s mask and the statues outside the Dragon temple are THISWhat the FUCK
>>498649494Also has a double ATK/DEF AOE debuff, along with an attacking DEF debuff to begin with.
>>498649469Basilio singlehandedly cured my Paripus racism. The lad is a fucking workhorse.
>>498649494>benching strohl instead of running str mc, basilio, strohl and a buffbotyoure washed
Are there any in-game costumes for the party, or is it only the DLC ones?
>>498649648Masked Dancer for party Charge.
>>498649629Don't forget Catherina nuking half of a dungeon boss's hp for you.
>>498634927Well at least the fairy in question isn’t a Green haired outer god.
How the fuck is Catherina not a party member
>>498650026Basilio filled the Paripus quota
>>498647984This >>497902254
I just realized that Junpei has more STR than AkihikoWhat the fuck
>>498648531I don't know the other day it was about 400c here and I was melting
>>498649648Eupha-chan > Str*hl
>>498650248>400cnigga do you live on Venus?
>>498650248I meant 40c jesus
>>498648531That's every summer where I live
>>498650247Junpei is all strength with no brain That's not a surprise
>get to 3rd town and pick up all the quests>actually have to think about planning my routeSurely there's no way to take out all 3 dungeons in a single raid without returning to identify better equipment right?
>>498645743I get what these games are trying to do. The monster you beat at the end is a thematical obstacle while actually solving the problem is done elsewhere in the story. There's a certain mythological structure to it and I think something gets lost in Japanese vs western meaning for god. The games that flub it would've flubbed the social commentary anyway. It's just extra salt in the wound and you can tell the ones which really had no clue so went errr it was that guy.
>>498648531They're by the water so they are cooled by the sea breeze, but once you get away from the water and further inland then you just want to die.
>>498650374It was a typo I'm sorry
>>498650358Why not just bring Bas, Strohl, and Eupha?
I just finished the demoDo I like the game
Can weakness hits crit? Haven't seen it happen yet
>>498650558Yes? No?
>>498650247Junpei is way closer to being a pure phys fighter. Aki is a jack of all trades. This should not surprise you so.
>500 gold per attackYeah OK merchant is useless
>>498650747lol
>>498650747lmaooooooooooo everyone laugh at this dood
Have you knelt today?
What level are you when you first beat the dragon temple? Is it just me or is the boss easier than the chimeras and all the other red enemies in the dungeon?
>check spotify for tracks>track name is literally "You Face Louis Guiabern"
>>498650747>he doesn't know
OK nevermind I killed like 6 teeth and got 5K Merchant is the best class
>>498651040Yes it definitely is, all the party member tutorial fights are pretty easy
>>498650747>He lacks information and funding
>>498648445That's basically every Atlus game. I will give Metaphor credit for allowing you to get away with mixed builds (providing that you dont invest in Luck via level) due you ultimately hitting the softcap or being so high in every stat that it doesn't matter.
Man 9/24 was fucking kino
>>498651197Someone said you could feasibly max out 3 stats by endgame, is that realistic if you grind a lot?
>>498648445Its wild they didn't atleast make Gunner/Sniper and Thief lineage scale with AGI.
Hulkenberg has been afflicted with burn for the past 7 years
I think I maxed my STR after archetype bonuses and accs, where should I put my points next? END or AGI?
>>498651108Dang, I went out of my way to save up, recharged about 40-50 mp on red crystals, and used those 100 mp potions. The whole dungeon is crazy so I expected something frustrating.
>>498651520LUK is good for crit, multihit chance and applying statuses.
>miss
>>498618582>misterALICE?
>>498651781>He used itDoesn't count.
>>498651781Really need an option to swap archetypes on retry
>>498651781>heismay failed to steal
All these references is making me wish for EO6 or something
How the fuck do you fight Lina in coliseum? She spams luster candy every turn and hit like a truck
>>498651846Its a game feature. Play Regicide if you dont wanna use it.
>>498644940Does it feel good, fairy-chan?
How do I deal with Baby boss?
>>498652079Hit it until it dies? What's the issue?
What's the largest total stat bonus you can get from gear?
I despise the overworld "combat" with a burning passion
>>498651846I earned the right to play casually, I beat persona 5 on merciless
I dont have mp...
>>498652359But merciless is easier than hard?
>>498651781Why would they add this? It just makes the game a cakewalk at the cost of being extremely tedious
>>498652356Locking onto enemies improved it for me.
>>498652735Stop being hysterical, it barely affects anything other than removing the tedium of hitting load game every time you fail a fight just the same.
>>498652735I used to think it was for the zoomers but its really for the oldfags. I don't want to leave the dungeon and come back the next day.
>>498651325>23 to 28 Base>9 to 10 from unique archetype>14 to 22 from mastery>Toilet/Salt Bonuses>n from levels>n from gearShouldnt be impossible
is there a way to control who you yield your turn to?
>>498653089nope turn order always dictated by agility
>>498653089no
>Make it so STR and INT are the only logical stat choices>Make like 80% of archetypes physical>Physical even gets elemental physical attacks>Gunner and Thief archetypes dont scale with AGI even
Why is every single enemy immune to like 4 attributes, what is this retardation
>>498652356git gud
I need cheat for unlimited mps
>>498653224your almighty damage bro?
Why my first 2 party members are physical
>putting cats everywhere like I'm going to go back to the entrance and waste my daywhat the fuck is atlus smoking
>>498653181>Thief archetypes dont scale with AGI evenWhy would you lie like this Agility +9 gear is the difference between being able to steal from someone 10 levels above you right away or in 50 years
>>498653224first megaten game?
>>498653438It increases steal but not damage. Who cares when you can just press retry if you fail a steal.
>>498653438why does it matter when you can just reset the fight?
>>498643941From what I've gathered, this is a pretty typical message about racism that wouldn't be out of place in most 90s RPGs, so I'm not sure exactly what they think is the problem here, other than political polarization.
>>498649365Magic gets seeker's vortex which is almighty but an element which means you can give people weaknesses. The only disadvantage it has is criting but even with all the crit tech in the world criting isn't something I've seen often.
every time you retry, gallica gains a pound
Eupha is a monster endgame, hitting like a fucking demigod and looks cool while doing it
>>498653732You're just saying this because you think she's hot
>>498653732Is that a persona reference!?
>>498653617>>498653621>reset 20 times to get the item >get crit on the next round and need to reset again or wipe Not even getting into how the hardest difficulty doesn't let you do that
>>498653802yes, especially since hand holding is equivalent to depraved sex in her culture
>>498652735No it doesn't? All it does it make it so you don't need to intentionally game over if you want to restart a battle.
>>498653842Only nerds will play on Regicide. I have difficulties in games that give unrealistic handicaps or bonuses to enemies.
That's...amazing>>498653823The Persona reference class is Junah
>>498654008it makes farming so much better late game when you accidently get hit by an ambush attack in a group of monsters
Help me build my perfect team, but protag HAS to be Merchant. No duplicates either.
Jesus Merchant sama I'm sorry I ever doubted you
Sex mod?
I can't get the Liverpool accent out of my head
>>498653964Game Over is there as a punishment for playing poorly. With this new system there's absolutely no way you can lose, and it only encourages restart autism until you brute force good RNG instead of good strategy.
>>498652224It keeps killing me. I don't have enough days left to go to the other dungeon to unlock the other archetype with the debuff skill that helps prevent all the status shit
>>498654291How is it any different than letting yourself get killed and hitting load game?If your setup is bad, no amount of restarts will help you.
>>498654413What archetypes do you have unlocked?
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games job system falls apart at the end of the game, 0 point not to use the royal archetypes since they exclusively get access to extreme/severe spammables. 0 point to having any character main a healer or brawler achetype, same can be said of sniper and faker, just import the good skills and win the game spamming junahs aoe charge with basilio, strohl and the mc
>>498654413Get a healer or a magic knight to heal.Then just attack the eyes with pierce when able
>merchant is goodOyvey
>>498654291You are retarded.
>>498654470OK the truth is I think getting game over against goblins and the like is hot and this system prevents that
>>498654513All the archetype you get from the main story plus Merchant. I did a bit of grinding before the boss to where knight and warrior are maxed out but I don't have the follow up archetype like magic knight
>>498654593shouldn't it be uuuuooooohhhh.jpg?
>>498654614That's every Atlus game. There's always a couple demons/personas that are just so much better than the others that there's 0 reason to use anything "exotic"
If you soft reset to the title screen instead of waiting for the boss to finish killing you, you didn't beat the game
wait is this correct?picking the "correct" option in rank up dialogue literally awards 3 MAGnot 30, 300, literally THREEand there is no hidden affinity?
bro this dragon temple can go fuck itselfi don't even know what im doing anymore, is 90% of the dungeon optional?
>>498654787If you can evolve your warrior to swordmaster it has a synthesis skill that lowers attack, you could try using that.
So is this game worth 70 dabloons. I was worried it would be too similar to modern persona so i waited.
>>498654654The game has given me basically no reason to ever swap off of Merchant. The stats it gives are good enough and the bonus money is retarded and I have like 300K at the start of July. I just gave it the monk crit passive and the warrior damage passive and then the third slot just changes to either heals or random shit to hit weaknesses. Why would I ever use anything else?
>>498654962You get like 1000+ Mag at the end of the conversation. The 3 triangles are just indicators of a good response, like getting 3 music notes in Persona, they are not literally 3 mag.
>>498654962>there is no hidden affinityYes just choose the option you like more hope p6 is like this honestly
>>498654881Yea i realized that when i read that all the playable characters get a new heroic embodiment at their rank 8 social link, however it feels pretty dumb when things like brawler/healer dont have a royal archetype and are just there to maybe give their passives away
>>498654881>>498654614Are we at the Murakumo + Omagatoki Crit is the only correct way to play phase?
I need that Elda boy inside me
Redpill me on summoner, is it just a purely attacker class?
For the anons who already finished it: Is there at least a canon romance or does the MC end the journey maidenless?
>>498654981>i've been here 2 hoursjfc
>>498655545I need this boy inside of me...it is a boy right?
>>498654593>literally Etria and Lost Shinjuku >divine relics other candidates found include a Demonica helmet, and Piggytron from persona 5
>>498655159I like that I'm not playing with a guide open, but I would appreciate if they had solved this by there being more of a role playing element. Like give characters different social attributes and allow me to flirt or comfort which could effect the relationship in some way. As is they made it not annoying.
>>498651908I just saved most of the coliseum until the endgame, was able to breeze through all but the last few challenges, and even then they weren't too bad
What is the purpose of Hulkenberg's big ass? A royal knight has no need for an ass so big
>>498654291Its an optional mechanic. Just like turning the difficulty to Storyteller is an optional mechanic. You can simply have the self control to not use it and create your own rules.
This game should have flopped. We are in the middle of a pendulum swing and a game with these politics should not be a success
>>498655754stores many farts
>>498654881>he uses the OP meta demons instead of his favoritessoulless
>>498655096No point giving it a heal when you'll be swimming in items. Items that it increases the drop of. Which heal for 20% more. Which later heal for 100% more. Merchant seems like the perfect protag archetype until you unlock the special endgame one. >Easy money>Easy healing>Easy items>Almighty damage
>>498651063The game telegraphs a fight with him from the moment you first boot the game up.
>Threads already slowed down to a haltfailed, woke game
Holy shit this dragon dungeon is taking a while.Wizard farm is back
When More asks you to unlock 15 archetypes, is it on a single character or across your whole party?
>>498655682I now half wonder if I'd start crying if they ever add more remixes of old Etrian songs
>>498656080Across the whole party iirc
What level were you for the final boss?
Who wants to be a faker? Heismay?
>>498655886WRONGI always play with my lamia
>>498655592no explicit romance, the closest is with eupha calling you her husband essentially
>>498656054>Wizard farmthe butterflies drop 20mp Magla Pills, so it's better to find a spot with lots of them and thief farm
>>498656225Heismay is perfect for Faker since his insane Agi means that he will go first and get the opportunity to throw debuffs before everyone else. Otherwise Junah who needs Faker to advance in Masked Dancer
>>498656229see the issue with the job system in this game is you CANNOT inherit the royal achetype skills to the jobs like brawler, unlike smt/persona where any persona CAN have any skill through enough work/grind. so you just cant get any severe/extreme damage skills on shit like brawler or wizard
>>498656225I made Junah the faker I want to give her something whacky on regicide difficulty
what the fuck is that heroic archetype? max all buffs? 4 additional turns?on top of fakery you can gain like 8 turns extra for a total of 12 turnsdisgusting
>fidelio eternally shota due to experiment side effectsNice
>>498656396Ehh to me the bigger problem is how lame the archetypes look. The demons are so much cooler.
How would you know what that feels like?
>>498656396>any persona CAN have any skill through enough work/grindLiterally all the unique uninheritable skills in p3/p5 say hello
>>498656396Uh all the best skills are unique demon skills though?
>>498618857>He's the Will of the Prince>He's Willing to do whatever it takes>He Will He Will Rock You
>>498656557He's LITERALLY me, except the experiments left me a bald, fat midget instead of a cute boy
If Shinjuku exists in Metaphor like in EO1, does that mean Canada does exist in the past of Metaphor too?
>>498656396SMT/persona has the same thing though, like you can't give Lucifer's morning star to Mothman
Oh boy I can't wait to romance all these cute girls
the end of the game is for sure some sequel bait
>>498654981>>498655597>Persoynababs getting filtered by a beginner tier dungeon in real SMT games
The only legitimate criticism of the archetype system is that you don't keep them unlocked on a new run so you can't play through the entire game with 4 dragoons
I'M GONNA DO ITI'M GONNA GO TO A DARK STREET AND EXCHANGE MY MAGLA FOR MONEY
>>498655682Don't forget the holy chalice
I love how Atlus thought so little of their player base that they literally drew the path to take through the Dragon Temple first on the ceiling and then on the floor but it still filtered people anyway
Bro is so lucky
>>498657090Wait, you fucking DON'T? You have to do everything AGAIN?
What are some balanced mods that would make the game a lot better on PC?
>>498657290You have to do the followers again little zoomie they keep all the exp you put into them
>>498657385But I don't want to have sex with the followers again
>>498657328>Outfits>A respec item, but make it expensive>Bathroom giving a random stat or choice
>>498657231What do you mean, literally just take the clear path
>>498655592Pretty much all the female followers, aside from Maria, display some level of interest. It isn't going to be hard for people to head canon stuff post game.
>>498657231im confused what are people getting filtered about in the temple? you can use fae sight and see the right path by which torches are lit up or are they getting filtered by how long it is
>no Alice wife to main like other SMT gamesWhats the point of this game
This game is garbage
>>498658194why?
>>498658339Because he want's a (You) and threads on /v/ have greatly diminished so he can't get any. Also too much competition for (You)s when everyone is using the same bait.
Last slot for MC? For now I'm working towards the second Phys Boost on Berserker. Curious what other people have done.
just got to the water town and spent 200k upgrading geartalking makes it seem like the next story segment is a pain with limited turns, how hard exactly is it? can i still day 1 rush it?
>>498658339Dead general Shit story Giga shit characters no one talks about Shit gameplay
>>498658580Fuck, forgot pic.
>>498658613It's extremely easy and short.>200KDid you wait for the sale day?
>>498658793crit passive I guess?
>>498658613I got it done in 1 day. It took a bunch of resets though
>>498658943I had more of a crit focus but the rate is so shitty even with it that I've decided going raw damage is better.
>game baits you to make mc a mage early>his royal archetype at endgame is better phys
>>498659108Don't care still playing mage.I've heard the same shit about SMTV and mag was completely fine.
How much free time do you get in the end game to get all your shit together?
>>498659108Sorry I can't hear you over the sound of soul hacker spells ignoring all resistances
>>498659286i did every sidequest, every social link, every royal virute maxed and had like 10 days left over at the end
>>498657867Lust over mature women like a normal person
>>49865928630 days, definitely enough to leave the final dungeon and come back a bit Opera house opens up giving you the best Royal virtue gains by far if you still don't have those maxed
>>498659108best way is just to balance your points50 or 70 strength doesn't matter as you'll still hit hard as fuck
>>498659286I had nearly two weeks. You probably don't even need a guide. It's actually hard to waste your time in Metaphor, as long as you're advancing your social stats when you can with the one-time stuff and focusing on them when you need to unlock links with them.
>mimic steals 10% of my money>doesn't give it back at the end of the fightr u havin' a giggle m8?
Is anyone baking or did you not unlock speed cooking from Maria yet?
>>498659528the fact that support convos dont work like persona and the answers you give dont force you to waste more time is a blessing, hopefully they get rid of that shit in p6
>>498659569I laughed because I didn't care about the money.
>>498659569You want Macca Beam I'll give you mecca beam motherfucker
This nigga's sword has swords
>>498659794badass
>>498659185Mag was better than Phys for most of V anyway. A lot of phys fags just obsess over the ass end of the game.
Man, playing on hard after viagra island is a slog, nothing really kills you but you kill everything slower
>>498660010that every games hard mode, i wish these companies would make hard mode more than just stat bloat, change up the ai and give shit more moves instead of more stats
>>498660219Enemies do get extra press turn though
>>498657081>SMTbab doesn’t know about EO let alone EOU>the final maingame dungeon of the first game that is infamous for its tedium, no shortcuts until the fourth floor>the FOEs are diminishing EXP piñatas you don’t have to run from but specific random encounters rape on ambush meaning you need ward chime or the anti-ambush field skill>compared to Naraku (hard only by the nature of how punishing negotiation can be at the start)I can’t believe I share a general with some of you. You are hereby EXILED from Eht Ria and you will never be allowed to hold our people’s hands again
I need about 70k MAG, so that doesn't look like it'll be an obstacle to maxing everything without grinding. What will be closer is the Archetype EXP. I still need to max out a bunch of classes and I'm not sure I'll end up with enough. It seems possible to get 100% Archetypes on MC without grinding with more efficient investments even if I don't make it. I could have more power from getting a couple more passives on other people, but it's minor stuff, this was more entertaining.
>>498658613eh its easy there's 0 foes except 4 mini"bosses"
>>498659313This. I really dont understand why niggers act like the MC's ultimate class having an almighty severe physical attack means physical is canon when Soul Hacker is also canon and has essentially an extreme almighty SPELL. Magic and strength are both equally good you tards
>>498641836>Hulk becomes mostly “muh food” jokes after she joins>Strohl thinks he’s the protagonist>Heismay is a cool sad dad>Junah is a slut (good [bad]) >Eupha is a cute foreigner but she harps on about her island A LOT>Basilio has Haru syndrome
>>498660417Newfriends are like Rincewind, desperate to survive in a strange land they struggle to cope with, while us connoisseurs are more like Twoflower, happily taking in the sights and learning all about the local customs.
>mc gets prince>also gets soul hackeri'm getting fomo, which do i level
>he invested all his levels into 99 Luck to get a 12% crit chance
>>498661736Niggers who say Basilio has Haru syndrome have to be speedreading because he has more screentime than Hulkenberg and Heismay starting from the midpoint of the game, like I actually dont understand
>>498661880>50 HITI shiggy diggy
>>498661867Soul Hacker will take significantly less time to level and has some great inheritables so id go for it, but if you have prince you should really have soul hacker leveled, maybe grind a bit
>>498661867prince and just inherit the spells
>>498662012I don't know why Atlus keeps doing this. Out of dozens of games with weapons giving you unique normal attacks, maybe a handful have ever done anything interesting with it. And they're all Etrian Odyssey, and even then it's niche.
>>498662192How is guarenteed crit at the cost of 50% hit rate not something interesting?
>>498661881It’s definitely better than Haru, but he still doesn’t have enough time as part of the team to develop dynamics with the other members except Junah.
>>498661880Thats only on normal melee attacks, it doesnt auto crit on the skills which is what Merchant only uses
>>498660417OG Lost Shinjuku was just long. The randoms were also harder than the FOEs. Desoulers in particular are jokes.
>>498662416Its definirely not as good as it could be but it just pisses me off when people throw "Haru Syndrome" around willy nilly because she is actually a travesty of a character
>>498662332Mechanics have to be usable to qualify as interesting, novel is the word I'd use for this series of weapons.
>>498660460how did you grind all this out?
Without spoiling too much, this game is shorter than P5 right?
>3 persona threads>1 dying metaphor threadnot like this...
>>498662987a little shorter yea if you are counting royal content, about the same as base p5 imo my cleared save is 81 hours
>>498662908I was at about 40% when I started in the final dungeon, all my other character's builds are close enough to done at this point so I've been dumping that EXP into this project. I will say I ran Fortune's Grasp the entire game from getting it, but other than that, I just killed most encounters in my way.
>>498663426>>498663426
God damn 4th area is more of a dungeon crawler than all of SMT IV and V put together, what the FUCK is that team even doing?
>>498662520Even playing on HD with movement QOL it is such an absurdly long dungeon with the bridges and all, it’s a shame they front load the best part of it with your Towering Pair fight before you finish the first floor. The novelty of exploring a ruined office building overrun by nature dies by the time you need to thread out on the second floor to mentally recover from walking a marathon
>>498663274Normal or hard mode?
what the fuck, I think I accidentally triggered the bad ending, lmao fuck you atlus
>>498663537>copypaste Etrian Odyssey dungeon>It's pure ludokino
>>498664264There's a bad ending?
wait what, so the protagonist is LITERALLY the prince's tulpa?
I just got with the second major story dungeon. How far are you fags far along in the game?
>>498667381Just finished that same dungeon.
