Do It for Them Edition>Previous Thread >>499141561Life is Strange (LiS) is an episodic narrative game from developer Don't Nod (DN). Set in the Pacific Northwest in the town of Arcadia Bay, the player follows the story of Max Caulfield and her seemingly newfound ability to turn hella gay and rewind timeLife is Strange: Before the Storm (BtS) is an episodic narrative game from developer Deck Nine (D9). A prequel set three years before the events of the first Life is Strange. A troubled, isolated and gay sixteen-year old Chloe Price forms an unlikely friendship with Rachel Amber, a popular girl with her own hidden demonsLife is Strange: True Colors (TC) is a narrative game from developer Deck Nine (D9). Protagonist Alex Chen is a young woman with the astonishing supernatural power of being gay. While Alex’s power will lead to moments of great joy, it also brings her into the orbit of violent anger, world-altering sadness, and irrepressible fearLost Records: Bloom & Rage (LR) is an upcoming narrative game from developers of the original Life is Strange, Don't Nod (DN)>News:Life is Strange: Heatwaves - Released!First Lost Records gameplay trailer - Released!Fear the Spotlight release date - 22nd of OctoberLost Records release date - 18th of February and 18th of March, 2025>Steam:Life is Strange - http://store.steampowered.com/app/319630Life is Strange: Before the Storm - http://store.steampowered.com/app/554620Life is Strange: Remastered (includes LiS + BtS) - https://store.steampowered.com/app/1265920Life is Strange: True Colors - http://store.steampowered.com/app/936790Lost Records: Bloom & Rage - https://store.steampowered.com/app/1902960>/lisg/ Permalink:http://orph.link/lisg>Compilation of Fanfics:http://orph.link/fanfic>/lisg/ Photo gallery:https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/0ByVgd5eMbb7XVHlGbHlPV2tRdGM?resourcekey=0-xFA4oxFdFKq3Ub3ZAW1Cgw&usp=sharing>Art of LiShttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=265yHETXRXo
Izzie LOVE!
Ancient ending discussion if anyone wants a quick blast to the past of '15 /lisg/.
A reminder
Thread theme:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IBelvYeF440
I wish every copy of DE gets thrown into landfill like ET and Forspoken
Rachel owes me a blowjob and Alderman dies.
>>499242174Hot
>>499242853>Safi Llewelyn Oh God.... She's part Welsh...
>>499199287>>499199326> tell me basically what the gist of it is. if I enjoy LiS, Gone Home etc will it grab me?Ah shit, I passed out before I could reply to you guys. Basically, yes. It's another choice-based supernatural adventure game where you play as a blue-haired teenage girl. It's even set in Oregon. The gist is you've taken the ferry with a group of high school friends to go hang out on this island, and spooky shit ensues. Think of it as a slightly darker, more melancholy spiritual successor to LiS. Its great quality, to my mind, is its hand-drawn art-style and exquisite colour palette. Everything looks enchanted. I don't know how else to describe it.
>>499243625Also, much like DE, Oxenfree has a shit sequel that you're better off avoiding
SMOKING ON THAT CHLOE FAGS PACK!
>>499244043The sequel clearly suffered from rewrites and a troubled development. It's not what it should have been. But still worth playing, I think, so long as you keep that in mind. It makes a valiant effort to do something different rather than retreading the same ground like LiS's sequels have attempted to do, to such varying levels of success.
>>499242174>Vinh's POV.
>>499246078based and canon
>>499245437From my experience its one of those games that introduces something new but barely utilize it to its full extent, resulting in a shallower experience. Not to mention the group dynamic is replaced by Jacob, who becomes stale quite fast after a while.
>>499246289Now show the one in which Vinh is railed by Moses' BBC
>>499246738Ye it's certainly a problem that you've gone from a whole cast to just Jacob. A sequel should feel more expansive but O2 ends up feeling narrower. And as you say, there's the whole thing with the 'tears' that goes absolutely nowhere. Clearly something scuppered in development. But still, setting aside O1's superiority, I think the sequel succeeds in telling a worthwhile story of its own.
>>499247050>I think the sequel succeeds in telling a worthwhile story of its ownKinda disagree on that, towards to the end it felt like the story of Riley was kinda set aside to give this force fanservice happy ending to the OX1 characters, which the game reveal as the villains only to backtrack two interaction later, with Alex turning into a stupid exposition fairy/ghost
>>499238254what did she mean by this /lisg/?
>>499247406felice trying to be funny
>>499247190Ah ye, I liked Riley and Jacob, but I very much agree with you on that. The ending of the first game was perfectly self-contained, and they dispelled a lot of its mystery with that bullshit in the second game.
With all the retcons and Inconsistencies in both BTS and DE, LiS1 feels a bit disconnected.Different teams, I know.LiS1 and 2 stands on their own, DN universe is done, use your imagination.No, what we need is a LiS1 remake by D9.Where Chloe begs Max to let her die with an ugly crying face and removing the line about whatever Max chooses.will be the right decision.We'll need a scene with high sexual tension between Chloe and Victoria, some seeds for their thing in DE.Max might have a little crush on Joyce too, it seems she also likes older women in DE.Max might take feet pics instead of selfies and Jefferson loves her vision.
>>499238254>double exposure not in the opMan the seethe here is crazy
Predictions on how many player numbers will shoot up on SteamDB once DE releases?
>>499251065My bet is possibly close to LiS2 pre-bots but not higher than True Colors
>>499249749this retards cant even be happy max is back,in the end they were all fans of that shitty lesbians pairing
Time to wash the taste of shitty storytelling and ship wrecking out of my mouth.
>>499251447>max is back*Some retard's headcanon version of max is back
>>499252934same u can say about chloe bts and yet it sold more, chloe carries this franchise more than max who??
>>499251447Yeah, the only way they can cope is to enjoy their anger, act the victim and try to suppress anything positive whatsoever about the game.
>>499251447What? There was no sequel to begin with.
>>499252934what is different,the fact shes a late 20s horny woman now?i throught you fags liked when LGHFHJSDHS+ characters are comfortable about their sexuality
>>499238621I was looking at stuff from old /lisg/ and it made me realize how much I miss BtS era
>>499238621i wish i was part of the discussion of the OG game,seems like some fun times
>>499253958Amberpricefags have bone in brain. Oblivious straight girl Rachel canon.
>>499253958The names change, but the schizophrenia stays the same.
>>499249749>>499251447>>499253259Yes, yes, we are the ones seething for sure, kek.
>>499254282Eh, not so much. At the time there were a lot of unfulfilled theories and assumptions, and Bae always felt barebones compared to the Bay ending. A lot of us also spent weeks to months with a sort of post-LiS depression because it was over and nothing could fill the hole.
>>499253958You know, I wonder how an evil!Max and Jefferson fic would play out, romance or just friendship or mentorship. I don't think I've ever seen one, because most of the fanbase rightfully despises Jefferson.
god i want to fuck safi so bad,she should be the romance option,D9 has to be to most retarded company on earth
>>499256245She's the monster at the end of the book.
Double Exposure. Early Access. Day 7.8 more days until full release.How's it looking fellas?
>>499257961In fairness, most of the Early acess players will have beaten the first two chapters by now and won't be replaying them. And nobody will be buying into the early acess now given the reduced time until full release.I think we can only really get a full view of numbers during the first week or so of official release.
>>499257961Maybe does reach a similar number if not slighy higher than LiS2, but doesn't surpass True Colors. Either way, the backlash is going to become poison for any hypothetical Diamond centered next entry and the other future projects made by D9
>>499257961D9 is done. Let's hope Lost Records succeeds and Square gives LiS back to Don't Nod.
Polaris turned 9 yesterday.
Nobody here is talking about the plot of DE LMAOOOOO
>>499259962It's all essentially been worked out form the leaks minus a few details. Saffi is a shapeshifter, she screws with everyones lives. She inherited the power from Maya.
>>499257961Let's see how it reviews. Reviewers and less invested players won't care about the Chloe thing.
Life is Strange 3 looks good.
>>499260425chipmunks
>>499260352Remember that positive reviews doesn't equate with good sales. For example, Banishers: Ghost of New Eden had Very Positive rating on Stea yet it still flopped
>Less than 2k people ordered the collector's edition>A significant chunk of those have refundedMaybe the price gap is significant enough that almost nobody went for it, but on its face that reads like a disaster brewing.
>>499261416Didn't they claimed the Collector Box it sold out in the european magazine?
>>499261416And a CE without the actual game included nonetheless.
>>499259514I strongly disliked it upon release because the expectations were just so great, so many theories and none were even hinted at. We were all so hyped for how it was going to play out at the end. The blow would have been softened by the Hospital Ending but then it makes it the no-brainer choice for a better outcome. Looking back on it and what we did get was a finale with some strong character moments and great visuals. Thr gallery, the nightmare, Max confronting herself, visiting the memory museum, the cliff scene. An end scene that was simple but powerful enough to get the message.
>>499260425>playing as a fat ugly girl in the 90swho the FUCK is the target for this?milennials?gen x?
>>499262286"I can't admit I jerk off over this, so it's bad."
>>499260425They look okay but what is with that neck on the left?
>>499260425Cute outfits.
I can't even listen to Obstacles anymore. Even the song was ruined for me.This sucks from top to bottom, man. What a let down.
>>499260425>cutest girl can't be romancedInto the trash it goes
>>499260352True Colors has a metacritic score of 81. Which is actually good.I'm predicting DE is gonna be slightly worse than TC so I'm gonna assume it gets a 78 or so.
>>499263689I broke down crying today trying to listen to it, call me pathetic or whatever. I hate Double Exposure so much.
>>49926417210
>End of Double Exposure>Chloe and Max reunite>Chloe is clearly nervous>They hug and make some small talk >"Max, there's someone I want you to meet.">A young boy comes running in and hugs Chloe's leg.>"This is my son, Will.">Max is super shocked but tries to keep calm, "Um hi, Will. I'm Max. Your mom and I have known each other for a very l-" >Chloe cuts in, "This is *our* son.">" Wait. What the f-">[LIFE IS STRANGE]
>>499264401?
>>499264401Of all the timelines to go with, D9 going with FutaMax was not on the bingo card.
>>499264401Still makes more sense than most of the endings D9 games have
>>499264172It's not going to be worse than TC.
>>499265378>Max loses her powersI cant believe that DE bingo card got it right
>>499265229Maybe thats why Max is so confident with packages
i hate that losers ruined the big twist of chapter 4 endingi hate chloe fags so much is unreal
>>499266321You hate that Safi is the final villain and Thanos of the LiS universe?
>>499238254I saw Vinh fucking Max's tight pink hairy pussy. It was so hot bros...
I hate coomers so fucking much it's unreal.
>>499266796rachel owes me a blowjob still
>>499266874>"Max, you need to finish your photography project! You can't let your grades slip!">"Wanna watch me go down on the angel?"
>>499266874Max is already a devil, she doesn't need one on her shoulder.
Max owes Vinh 50 bed breaking raw sex and one gluk gluk 3000
Funny to think that even in DE, 78% of players are those who choose to keep Chloe alive and in a relationship with Max.
>>499259514God I can’t believe it’ll be a decade next year
>>499267958After the release, these stats won't mean anything thanks to the achievements requiring multiple playthroughs and doing all options.
>>499268682It likely counts your first one only via ip like lis1
>>499264401Lesbians can't have babies.
>>499268797True, that why Vinh volunteer to breed Max nonstop
What we're they thinking when they added Vinh as a love interest? The guy is horrible.
>>499270157Why do you think Quagmire didn't even get mentioned in the trailers etc?It was genuinely believed that they'd decided to make Amanda the only option, this making Max officially Lesbian.
D9 want us to believe that they broke up, pfttttt....
>>499270631the fight:
>>499270631Max is getting dicked down by Vinh as we speak. She is straight now.
>>499270157Vinh is based. He's /ourguy/ even.
>>499270631DN - they don't smile much in the photo, they still struggleD9 - hell yeah baby!
>>499270631holy fuck chloe is one ugly bitch
>>499271017and they call d9's variant not canon, lolllll, hope pricefielders enjoy seeing max and chloe MISERABLE in Michel's canon! :)
How did we reach a point where defending a lesbian relationship with tattooed blue haired girl is considered chud behavior?
>How did we reach a point where defending a lesbian relationship with tattooed blue haired girl is considered chud behavior?
>>499273326A fine concept, and whoever drew it deserves props for it.
Pricefield? Shot from the canon, baby. All hail the queen.
>>499274319I love it so much, it's cute and very fitting for LR
>>499271368Because publishers pay journos top dollar to crush dissent with audience hit pieces. I've only found 1 article that even tries to understand why Pricefielders are upset while the rest of the articles are just attacking them because a couple trannies sent mean tweets at a developer.
>>499274495Victoria should have been the protagonist. She's also a photographer so the story could stay the same. Maybe Max shows up at the end to help her understand her new powers or something.
Question about LiS1.Why did they have us play as Victoria for a short while during the Nightmare sequence?
>>499260425>Terrible title>Terrible premise>Terrible release scheduleYeah, this shit's gonna flop harder than DE, sorry Michel.
>>499275912because of the model swaps modders were doing, replacing Max
>>499275912To further the mindfuck, and to also give you a glimpse into her mindset since she was a victim alongside you to show that while Victoria had done terrible things, terrible things were being done to her in turn and she felt trapped in the world she was stuck in.
>>499267958It's no so much funny as an indicator that a lot of people keep pointing out; most of the remaining fans who have an investment in the series are still here because of Max and Chloe. Time will tell whether just Max and a company vendetta against Chloe will be enough to secure good sales.
>>499276070That anon that pointed out a large portion of people who picked Bay were people who hated the game or weren't invested in it at all appears to have been accurate.
In case you were wondering, you can cancel your ultimate edition on ps store even if you played hours of the first two chapters. I did.
>>499276206I wouldn't even go that far, though in some cases it's probably true, as it's the knee-jerk 'good guy hero' option so would appeal to the casual player who doesn't really care. It's also just that Bay is an actual ending. It ties up nicely. The story is finished. Those people got their ending, turned off the game, and moved on with their lives.Bae had a pretty subpar cutscene. You see a little of the ruins, and then Chloe and Max driving off, and that's basically it. And on top of that their future was unwritten, so it had a big metaphorical 'to be continued' banner floating above it. The community, fanfics, snippets of details in LiS2 like the photo, then the comics, continued their story, and even as much as we are ragging on it even DE is telling one of them. It's what I mean when I've noted Pricefield IS the community in previous threads. I'm not saying everyone supports it or cares about it as much as some, and that nobody can be a dedicated Bayer, that no one new will join the fandom with a game other than OG LiS, just that the majority of people who stuck around and are still passionate are so because of Max and Chloe. Even SE is aware of it, as is made obvious by their increasing bitterness over LiS being 'the lesbian game'. It's been a decade and they are still mad that the rest of the series hasn't hit the same.
Will playing BtS make me dislike Chloe?
>>499276741>>499277050>>499267958>78% of players are those who choose to keep Chloe alive and in a relationship with Max.So yeah, 78% sounds about right. That remaining 22% will be new players, Bay-enjoyers, and people who just like LiS for it's tone and story elements.
I'm not ready for another post-LiS depression.
If anyone knows a store that sells games early, i am willing to get it and play.
>>499277440Hard to say. She's still Chloe, so if she pissed you off at times in LiS she's going to have more screen time to do so in BtS. That said, it actually made me like her more, because you get to see more of the girl underneath. I didn't actually like Chloe in LiS. I only really liked that Max was happy around her and valued her. After BtS I started to actually appreciate her as a character all of her own.
>>499277440Depends entirely on you. Chloe is one of my favorite characters in video games because I empathize with her troubled life and I like how much she loves those she lets in. A lot of people can't get past the bitterness and abrasive attitude, which I understand.She's a love it or hate character, with little overlap.
>>499277657greenmangaming gives you 20% off on new releases if you're a returning customer
>>499277550I'm pretty sure you are safe from that looking at Double Exposure.
>>499277550Oh you are pretty safe this time
>>499277440If you're a sane person - then yes, immensely.
>>499277847I mean physical disc. And early, before release
I don't get the tone of Lost Records.It doesnt appear to be as "grounded" as LiS, if that makes sense. Am I right?
>>499277440Did you like her in LiS? If so, I think you'll be just fine. The prequel does show her daring/ragey side but it also definitely reminds you she is still that sweet girl. Saddened by the loss of her family and best friend, looking for something to make her feel loved again.
>>499277447So, does that mean that people that care about Max and Chloe were the majority over the supposed newbl tiktok audience?
>>499276049All of this. Seeing all the different Graffiti about her in one place hit home as to how much of it was spread around the town and school. It's why you are supposed to empathise with her.>>499277440No, but it will make you dislike Rachel.>>499277050It's why they always fall back on Pricefield for Pride etc, why there's Chloe & Max plushies and not anyone else. Same reason they did the promo with the Ice Cream store when remastered was released with Chloe & Max based flavours.>>499278420We know that "Something" happens, which is hinted at being Supernatural in origins. But wild theory is just that it will be much more Mundane, but the girls invent a story to push it away to the back of their minds rather than face the truth.
>>499270157>Can't let people think our protag is a DYKE
>>499270157I’d report him to HR or the police IRL. Guy screams date raper.
>>499280414You turn Amanda down during the first conversation, she respects it and doesn't push for a date etc.Turn Vinh down and he continues to make smarmy remarks and innuendos every single time.
>>499278086?
>>499277550Did anyone actually get that from any game aside from LiS1?I guess BtS would give you that if you like ChloeNo one seems to talk much about LiS2 and when they do its usually negativelyTC seems to have mixed reception.LiS1 and I guess BtS are the only games in the IP most people look back fondly on.I only played LiS1 but grew disinterested in everything else once they stepped away from the first games characters. DE doesn't look like it'll do anything to fix that.
>>499281123TC did, but not so much because of the impact of the ending, but because i wanted to spend more time in the company of those characters.
>>499281123BtS just had me immediately rushing to dive back into the original. LiS2 did the opposite of LiS, weak start and strong finish. So by the ending I didn't have too many residual wants or thoughts.
>>499281123Bts main, no.But Farewell hit like a train, even though you know whats going to happen.
>>499280601>chloe looks like deliquent>max looks like a manlesbian,im a right?YUCK!
>>499271368its not the chuds are insisting that its a le evil abusive relationship because chloe is clingy (despite her old GF being missing and her best friend was in town and never bothered to say hi)
>>499280601I would love if Dontnod made official models of 2017 Max and Chloe. Didn't they make a test model of Max in the LIS2 engine?
>>499279576Seems like pricefielders were the most passionate fans of LiS, so it's natural they're the ones buying the early access.They happen to be the audience SE and D9 pissed off. Oops.Or not if they succeed. They want a new audience. Most SE franchises die slowly because they can't regenerate their aging audience.
>>499238254heres your spiritual successor to LIS sister
I can't wait to post Vinh x Max sex scene here
>>499283886In fact incels and chuds are very happy with DE's writing decisions because they align 1:1 with their negative lesbian stereotypes.
>>499284076>Gameplay-wise is easily one of the shittiest games of 2024; it's Steam festival open alpha tier>Journos still gave it 7.0 and 8.0
>>499284165SEX with crazy women
>>499284181alot of people hate chloe,not everyone likes smelly ignorant annoying dykes
>>499284968Chloe was depressed too, not anxious
>>499284165This fall was supposed to be a shipping renaissance. Pricefield and Caitvi within weeks of each other.Fucking cursed. Still praying Caitvi can pull together after the misery in the leaks.
>>499283957I can't remember if they built models to test with. I feel like they would have been found if they had. Maybe in a towards the end cutscene in DE, Chloe will appear and we will see what our girls would look like now.
I'm less of a Pricefielder and more just a fan of Chloe. I'm more saddened to see that the devs hate her than I am to see the ship die. She's my favorite in the franchise and I basically got told by the publisher and developer to go fuck myself.
>>499285934"Sequel's developer taking a big fat shit on the previous MC out of pure spite" is something very common on the videogame industry. At least Chloe wasn't killed by the comic relief villain, killed on a shitty tie-in comic for the sequel so not even an on-screen death, killed by the extremely moronic and unlikeable sequel protagonist, killed by the extremely moronic and unlikeable sequel protagonist after going through character assasination and turning into a cartoonish villain or being killed by a cave-in.
I almost miss the bitching about Rachel.
>>499286554I see you in there Alex Mercer.
why did the mallory the bitch block the indian podcast guy? he's genuinely the best source of released and unreleased lis materials (throwback to roachyl's VA spilling facts in 2023 about d9's upcoming project after DE)
I think I'm finally approaching acceptance. It happened. Can't change that.I also have the smallest ember of hope that this whole fiasco will force D9 and SE to reconsider and have them reconcile in some way in a sequel, even if it's just friends, they are Max and Chloe.
>>499286967she got mad at the news regarding Michel and called them fake
>>499285934They're two characters I love for their own merits, and for their combined ones. Chloe was super easy to me to get attached to when first playing. Max took some more time because I missed a lot of her subtle traits that made her who she is. More so than a breakup (which is awful in itself ) the fact they tried to suggest Chloe did it through letter and then just left- the same type of thing done to her by Max and by Rachel (a letter not even delivered), which hurt her so much- is what is truly unacceptable. Then saying "That's in character for her", a character who only knows dedication and who expresses her feelings VERY vocally, yeah, no. Not accepting that. Try again.
>>499286554
Is True Colors worth $18 + tax? I only played LiS1 and BtS and haven't been interested enough in the other games.
>>499287257If you like comfy character stuff yeah.If you want a really cool mystery plot or great supernatural stuff no.It’s the comfiest of the sequels.
>>499287049I've already reconciled by strongly declaring "Not canon". >Oh but it is because it's officialThen so too are the comics. Entries which explained many of the same elements: dealing with aftereffects of the first game, multiple timelines, jumping between them, mourning loss and learning to truly move on, etc. and did some much better than anything given in DE so far.
>>499287257purchase a key for like 5$-10$ off another store, it's not worth it and it's BORING, I replayed more DE by now than TC and already hit the 30h mark, with TC I played it once and never touched it again
>>499287147Source? That's a level of drama that I couldn't believe being possible
>>499286967>throwback to roachyl's VA spilling facts in 2023 about d9's upcoming project after DEWhat other project?
All LiS games are in the same "universe" right? So when are we getting LiS: Avengers?
I wish i could be max caulfield shes hella cool
>>499288890I don't think we will, look at how much destruction Safi's and Max's powers brought them
Just seen that post. Wtf is wrong with those people? Is their ego really that out of their asses that gets offended when Michel Koch tweets receive attentions?
>>499288890Don't think we are getting anything after DE
>>499289326What post? Link?
>>499285934>the devs hate herThis isn’t real, a single disgruntled fired employee just claimed this.Of course it feels easier to cope with the boogiemen out to get you instead of facing the narrative realities of Pricefield, something D9 and Koch agree on.
There is also the possibility of DE being commercially successful; wouldn't be the first time a boycott or internet flamewars didn't have any relevance on the actual sales.
>>499288890Never. Waaaaaaay too many branching plotlines. Especially for LiS2. The endings for that are extremely different from one another.
>>499289924I’d suspect there are at most 200 pricefielders that feel strong enough to not buy the game, and that might be generous.This number is completely offset by the return of Max.
>>499289957LiS 2 doesn’t have to play a part at all.
>>499289924steam playcount says otherwise
>>499290304Game isn't officially out yet
>>499285934I’m pretty much the opposite, I’m open to Pricefield but at the end of the day I’m a Max fan. Would have been nice to incorporate it better into Bae, but I’m not beat up about it.
even that horrendous subreddit agrees safi is hot and better fit for romance than amanda lol
>>499289924We will see
>>499290394+2000 players max
>>499290304Nobody bought the over expensive early access thing.
I hope Honkers anon is doing ok,
>>499290534Safi teases Max that she can shapeshift into that hot cute girl from the bar as potential romance.>Safi ChoiceThe final choice will probably boil down to whenever you join her or not. Also one more thing, Reggie is also present on the ending. No VO, but he has stingers referencing him. It's possible he's the one getting the nosebleed.
>>499289760Bottom one should be Max, all things considering
Reminder that LiS is a console franchise.
>>499289924This game doesnt seem to be marketed towards normie newcomers tho. They also pissed off 70% of their fanbase. I expect below 2k players release date.
Can someone summarize the likes
DE will be 15 000 players faggots, screencap
>>499290813>70%Lmao, try 10%, if that.
>>499290974Lmao, numbers don’t lie tho. So yeah that anon is 100% correct
>>499291123Most people who played the first game are not ride or die shippers. Touch grass.
>>499290941Ok, I did
>>499291301But the numbers still don’t lie, chud. Literally get out of the basment.
>>499291408Are these numbers in the room with us right now?
>>499291558Yes actually they are. Steam numbers. >b-b-but the game is NOT out yet!!!!!!! WAIT UNTIL RELEASE DATE REEEEEEE!
>>499291301>Most people who played the first game are not ride or die shippersAnd those normie crowd moved on 9 fucking years ago. You are delusional if you think they are coming back to buy this.
>>499291709>What’s 2+2?>And don’t say 4, give me a REAL answer!Loving every laugh.
>>499291852I’m sure you’ll be laughing when those numbers go up A LITTLE BIT. Worse than LiS 2 btw.
>>499291770That’s where you’re wrong. You’ll also notice the uptick in LiS 1 players who are prepping for BTS.
>>499292040Lmao. Cope and seethe.
I'm not saying it's the likeliest optionBut what if the game drops and the top concurrent players doesn't break the current record
>>499291934>>499292076You are SO mad
>>499292187Projecting retard
>>499292153it had more players on actual early access release, but steamdb started tracking after almost a day
>>499292153I will laugh
>>499292153I wouldn’t expect it to.Just above TC is the expectation for the aging franchise. Above that is a blowout.
>>499292153death of lis
Malory blocked P1VsTheWorld...
>Concurrent players on steamI couldn’t think of a less relevant statistic to sperg over. All that matters is units sold.
>>499292573>>499286967
>>499290304Steam playercounts are a worthless metric
>>499291408>the toxic entitled chuddy mad at a still unreleased video game for not catering to his wishes calling anyone else a chud El ph el. Even if DE flops, I'll be happy it did killing any hope for your delusions. Seriously bro touch some grass
The achievements will ruin the stats of the game and we’ll have no idea what people actually prefer.
>>49929271722 950 units sold, good or bad? https://vginsights.com/game/life-is-strange-double-exposure
>>499292336Positive prediction, at least close to LiS2 highest number (maybe even 4500 to 6100) but doesn't surpass True Colors. Negative prediction, 3500 max players, and that's if we follow SteamDB
>>499287148Not necessarily trying to change your mind here. But I did see one schizo-Redditor make an interesting point on why Chloe would have broken up via a letter that isn't just shitty callousness.i.e., being somewhere far away and doing things via a letter would be the surest way to make sure the separation is 'rewind-proof'. In an earlier text-exchange, Chloe worries that if Max were pushed into a really uncomfortable situation she could simply Rewind until she's able to get Chloe to do as she wants. Max does that multiple times in LiS1 so it's not an unwarranted concern.If Chloe were to break-up in person, that would be a huge temptation for a distraught Max to break her vow and try and Rewind the breakup away just out of sheer shock/grief. If Chloe is far away in physical distance and messages via a letter, it nullifies the ability to Rewind it away. Even if Max rewinds by 5 minutes, Chloe isn't in proximity for anything to be 'undone'.Of course, that's a charitable interpretation tied to the idea that Chloe's breakup is her genuinely feeling that her presence in Max's life is causing Max to hurt herself with endless grief, regret and self-recrimination. And that by letting her go is Chloe genuinely trying to make Max 'happier'. The whole 'Maybe I'm bad for you, and you'd be better off without me' self-loathing trope.On reflection, I can see some seeds of nuance there outside of my initial kneejerk hate of it.
>>499292951Sure, but that was not what they were going for. I think at this stage we all know they just wanted Chloe gone and they did not put a lot of effort into it. Otherwise, I might have agreed.
>>499292951>Curtains are blueLolLmao
>>499292874So you admit it will be a flop. Thanks for proving my point. Go back to /v/pol chudcel.
>>499292951The problem is that Max at the end of LiS1 with Bae clearly makes the choice to not use her power again, and she would make very clear to Chloe almost immediatly. Not to mention, when she was actively using it, she had multiple occasions in which she save her ass, so Chloe should be the first one to know that Max isn't going to betray her trust like that.
>>499292947Really good for such a niche game facing so much fierce competition at a time of economic recession.
>>499293447in DE, max says in both timelines that her powers stopped working for a long time
>>499293447I'm sure one of the trailers has Max saying she hasn't used her powers since she was a teenager.
>>499293108I feel like at this point everyone in the fandom just wants to believe what they want. Whatever. All of this talk about this being the result of D9 absolutely hating Chloe is so overblown, and all just from one ex employee's statement. Sure, there clearly was mixed opinions on her in the dev team and the development process of the game. But I see no sign that this is a result of vindictiveness
>>499293108>I think at this stage we all know they just wanted Chloe gone and they did not put a lot of effort into itNo? Literally a single reddit post from a disgruntled employee is the entirety of your headcanon.>>499293447Chloe has trust issues, it’s really not a stretch at all.
>>499293528Exactly. Chloe is also aware that when Max uses her powers might occasionally have a nose bleed, so this weird paranoia seems to me like bad writing from the aurhors part.
>>499293481Life Is Strange: True Colors sold 438k though. So will they sell 400k on 7 days? That just seems weird to me.
>>499293673>Chloe has trust issues, it’s really not a stretch at all.But isn't the whole point of the first game that Max and Chloe help each others improve themselves (aka Chloe trustes Max because she's open and honest about her intentions)
>>499293670It’s easier to cope that you’re a victim of a vague and senseless evil because it makes you feel righteous even if you’re whining.Don’t have to use your brain, no nuance necessary, those evil Chloe haters targeted (you) specifically.Tiresome.
>>499293670Oh sure... It's not like you downplaying it because it's convenient
>>499293430No thanks sweetie, been here since 2016 and will be staying here (seemingly) till this place burns down. I couldn't care less about the sales of the game. I'll play it and if I like it , I'll like it and if I don't I won't. Just like I did for the first game. And BtS. And LiS2. And TC. It's just fun to see the tantrums and whining though, all because of shipwars
I tried looking for positive discussions about the game on social media. There is not a lot, and the few positive post I could find had almost no likes or views. I tried to check out twitter, instagram and TikTok. That must mean something? Because there was no problem at all finding the other view.
>>499293685I don’t like the result is not the same as bad writing. Chloe being paranoid is not ooc. She also doesn’t always get nosebleeds, and Chloe knows that.>>499293875Even Koch acknowledges that post-Bae is a relationship full of trauma and strife. Both creative sides of the franchise seem to agree such a thing is in character.
>>499294143domtheflop stream
this trailer made me realize the blue butterfly scene is not from the first chapters,made it happens towards the end of the game?https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_kBgC4oCAMM
>>499293792TC wasn't released in the middle of the worst economIc recession since WWII.
>>499294102Downplaying what exactly? People right now are acting as if Chloe got raped and brutally murdered in the game or some crazy shit like that..and it's simply just her breaking up with Max.
>>499293792>Life Is Strange: True Colors sold 438k thoughI'm shocked it sold that many. I would've guessed 200k max
>>499294230did you know the nightmare will have Moses saying Safi's lines? then the butterfly shows leading Max onto the blackwell bathroom where she sees Safi act the role of Chloe and another Max acting the role of Nathan
>>499294143Yikes. How we feeling D9 bros?
>>499294403u didn't attend the NYCC panel
>>499293685Paranoia is not logical, do you not get that? Chloe is literally traumatized for life with a guilt of a thousand deaths and the weight of being saved over the town by a time travelling best friend and partner. Do you seriously think her having anxiety about it is unrealistic?
>>499294304Oh please, now you are the one *overblowing* people's criticisms over "We are respecting both endings" and their shitty writing.
>>499294535Maybe it needn't be, but the way in which it was written does not line up with what we know about her character, and the fact it happened entirely off-screen is evidence it was done not out of storytelling but out of laziness or worse.
>>499294560>you will consume slop>you will not criticize slop>you will agree with slop>you will play slopLiterally d9 dicksuckers
>>499294304This. As someone pointed out on this thread, actual vindictiveness against a character is vastly uglier than a breakup. I mean, the Joker got fucked in the ass.
>>499292951And that is saying Chloe does not trust Max or even fears her, which is an insult to both of their characters. Michel said it best, he would not have written a breakup, but if he had to it would have been a big plot point in itself. Something with that gravity is not just declared in the background.Some may deny it, but I firmly believe the writers in charge dislike Chloe and dislike Pricefield and did not want either in their game. There were other ways to keep them physically apart and allow Max her own adventure. Not directed at you, but I am asking who this new game is even for.>Dedicated fans who have stuck by the series?Well you immediately risked alienating about half who played the original. Even if not seeing Pricefield romantically, trusting strongly enough that their friendship lasts a lifetime. Sure there are those who will look past it but why even risk that when people are saying "They had to bring known characters back!" if this is do-or-die for the series. It's a needlessly self-imposed handicap.>New casual players just trying to pick up a title?Then why bother billing it as a return and direct sequel? They don't know or care about who Max is. It could have easily been someone new and it wouldn't make a difference. This is what True Colors was. Familiarity does not matter to a newcomer.>Returning players who maybe played the original and remembered it a little bit.Those people would probably go "Oh yeah, isn't that the game with the photographer and the punk girl? That one was good back then."At which point you specifically cater towards the Bay crowd who remember Max enough to want to see what she's up to, fair. Or you make players remember "Oh. Those two girls were really cool together" and then they realize they want more, and fail to get it. If the end goal was make money over all else then the safest route was keep Chloe involved but distant. Or to say from the start that this is a new timeline.
>>499294647Not writing about the story you wanted to see specifically is not a sign of laziness or maliciousness.Not writing a character exactly like your headcanon (but closer to Koch’s!) is not a sign of laziness or maliciousness.
>>499286554>"Sequel's developer taking a big fat shit on the previous MC out of pure spite" is something very common on the videogame industryIn the west anyway
>>499294560What isn't respected here? The endings of the first game was never a black and white thing about happy lesbian adventures vs grim dark trauma porn. It has always been established that there is nuance here. How is disrespectful to show that the choice made in the first game has consequences? Saving Chloe wasn't just a "yaaay Pricefield forever" option, you know? It was about saving her life no matter the cost. And here you see the cost. Their relationship doesn't work out because of the huge amounts of trust issues and guilt that would linger. That isn't to say that they cannot get back together. Or that their relationship won't ever work out. But at this point in Max and Chloe's story, it doesn't. Because they both have not healed
>>499294374another nightmare sequence?ZZZZZZZZ
>>499295083I never mentioned any of that, bro is projecting hard
>>499295083You’re wasting your breath. These people aren’t interested in engaging in good faith, their headcanon has been assaulted, and that means they’re under attack, and you are an enemy.
>>499295004Chloe being around but distant goes against the story DE is trying to tell about Max. This band-aid fix wouldn’t work, you’re proposing something that has more story implications than you realize.
>>499295054Half of the examples on that post come from Japanese games.
>>499295004>Chloe does not trust Max or even fears herI'm genuinely curious, how do you view Max and Chloe's relationship? It's so bizarre how every shipper sees them as this perfect couple made for each other who cannot go through any troubles whatsoever, at least not in any way that isn't somewhat sweet and ideal at the end of the day. Relationships having trust issues and anxieties is natural and human, especially in a relationship like theirs which involves literal deaths and supernatural powers. It does not mean that the people can never be with each other. It just means that they need to heal
>>499293108Agreed that it was all very abrupt and I can't say I'm a fan of any of it. But I do think there's some consistency there and an undercurrent of psychology weaved throughout. A lot of people hate the 'friendship' journal entry. Understandably as its hella caustic and Max is venting quite a bit.But IMO it gives a different vantage point on the romantic breakup. To me it feels like Max projecting her own insecurities onto Chloe. Max points out that 1000's of people died because of her. She blames herself for Joyce's death. She says she's right to torture herself over it. She claims Chloe must view her differently. She's arguing that she's right to hate herself.But the subtext is that Chloe has been consistently trying to tell Max to stop blaming herself. And is insisting that she doesn't view her differently. And is telling her to please stop torturing herself. And yet Max doesn't believe her. Because Max has built up so much self-loathing that she assumes Chloe must quietly view her as a piece-of-shit. Chloe can't watch Max continue to do that to herself and decides that if she's out of Max's life that maybe Max will stop being so cruel to herself.In Max's journal entry she's projecting her own self-loathing on Chloe in a moment of anger. Without really cluing in that Chloe simply can't bear to be around and while watching Max continually hate herself. Resisting any attempt to make her be more forgiving of herself.So even if it hasn't necessarily won me over, I do see some nuance there hiding under the initial gut-punch. If I stitch together the various interactions, texts, letters etc the over-arching theme seems to be Chloe's conclusion that 'I love you too much to be a trigger for your self-hatred. You keep hating yourself no matter what I try. So maybe my presence isn't good for you'.I'd much rather they be together. It doesn't satisfy me. But I don't think Chloe's motivation is totally out-of-character, either.
>>499295610Most shippers see Max and Chloe as we see them in Farewell, only older and eating eachother’s pussies.They shut out the entire narrative of the game, and the experience that they went through, and just, assume they pick up right where they left off. Perfect lovely lesbians forever.That’s a cute headcanon, but if you want to tell an authentic story, that is not what they can be.
>>499295862In a game about timetravel and shapeshifters right. Gotcha
>>499295789>chloe can't even go to cities with max she wanted to with rachelRachel is Chloe's true love confirmed.
>>499295970And cock was Rachel’s true love.
>>499295454It's a new setting and new power. The story being told did not have to be about Max specifically. You cannot bill familiarity and then drastically change it, and not expect at least some people to speak up.
>>499295789Based brain user. You can see the love for her in the way she drew her too. This is also why a return to Chloe is ultimately possible, once Bae Max lets go of the past.
>>499295962You realize the selling point of the franchise has always been about the authentic stories right? The first game was so successful in part because it was so grounded. Max felt like an actual normal teen estranged from her childhood best friend, pulled into something much larger than herself.
>>499296146And yet the story fits just perfectly for Max in this situation, the consequences of her choices in the first game came to a head, and this is her next chapter in life.It’s an authentic Max story.
>>499295789Well, it does not really matter anyway. This is just background stuff for the new gaming series based around Max. It has no purpose but making Max work on her trauma and moving on. Which the ending is all about. She is going to seek out Chloe for closure, nothing else.
you idiots got a comfy christmas game and you are crying fuck all of you,chloe retards
>>499296570I am empathetic to a point but the inability to even try to let the game do its thing is really tiresome.
No one talks about Bay Max. LOL
>>499295004Fair points. And I agree that there would different ways to separate them that would satisfy me far more. But if I go with the premise that Chloe left Max under the circumstance of 'No matter what I try you keep hating yourself over your past. Maybe you'll learn to like yourself more if I'm not around to remind you of your past'. I can get behind that more as opposed to the idea that Chloe is simply is simply a callous insensitive beeatch. It also gives Max an arc. If in DE she comes to some peace around her powers and her past, she'll have 'solved' the thing that made Chloe leave. Path to reconciliation that I can at least head-canon.I may be more charitable than most on that point, of course. But I do see some nuance lurking under the ugly surface-level stuff and that nuance is a bit of balm to me, at least.
So far the negatives I’ve seen are:1. Muh Chloe (backstory element)2. Amanda rushed and not cute enough3. Vinh as a wholeAnybody want to talk about anything else? Good or bad?
>>499295610Their relationship is extremely unique, damaged and beautiful. Five years apart and then one crazy week together. Where at the end of that week they are both broken. Unable to even stick around in the town full of death, which they believe they played a role in. Yet the two of them are still smiling because they're there and they're alive. Chloe's deepest fears that nobody cared about her and would always leave her were proven wrong. Max secured the safety of the person she endured so much protect. They are each the one thing they can salvage from a week that had nothing but terrible things. They can start to repair the previous five years.Now that's not healthy and they would both come to realize that. The best fics are them working through those issues, enduring the pain and having their arguments, cooling off and coming back together when ready to take each new step forward. Now if DE ends this with Chloe being brought back and Max accepting (even hints towards how things could progress), I could forgive a lot of it. Couples do separate and can come back together once they sort their own shit out. If DE tries to end their LiS sequel by saying everything I thought about the first game, one not even of their creation, was misplaced then I will ignore it in its entirety. There are not their characters, for the past eight years they were the fans and there was no reason it needed to be tampered with. DONTNOD understood that.
>>499296896I mean, I can talk about Bay if you’d like. I think Bay is being handled pretty great.
If only all the trauma and suffering shows how Bae was the immoral choice. Anyone whose survival was only thanks to the death of an entire town of people would eventually off themselves out of remorse or become unhinged psychopats , the ones who would be fine burning down a building full of people so they can profit from insurance.
>>499296896I would say that's probably because the people who care about Bay Max are at the very least marginally less para social than their counterparts, so they have better things to do than have an ultra massive meltdown over a still unreleased game as if it had massacred their entire family.
>>499297089Which is why this game should have been specifically post-Bay only and I say that as someone who loves Pricefield. If there is no possibility of being with Chloe then Max has to find how to continue living. In a way which would make Chloe and William proud of her.
>>499297219Nah. More like Bay Max didn’t need a fucking sequel.
>>499294143Views would still go up even if it gets no likes. Sounds like more like algorithm hijinks.
>>499297293Not everything in life has to be necessary.Sometimes lovely things can be completely superfluous.
>>499297434Or just in need of $$$$$$$
>>499295596Name them.
>>499297515You can satisfy both of those needs, sure. I will absolutely pay for more of my Bay Max if it’s an authentic story in the style of LiS.
>>499296991I can see that I largely share your sentiments. If DE ends up entirely removing any possibility of them working things out in the future, I would also find that deeply upsetting. But we don't know that yet. There is nothing to suggest that. Hell even the leaks of the game show that there's a line at the end of the game about Max potentially going back to Chloe. I just wish all of this discourse was more critical rather than emotional. At least wait for the full game to come out before condemning it as if it's some malicious entity made to enjoy the sorrow of it's fans
>>499297594Give me a good reason they couldn’t do a new character.
>>499296951The voice acting could be better.
>>499297685Max is more compelling to the audience of Life is Strange.
>>499297573Crono Cross, Drakengard 2, Shin Megami Tensei 2.
>>499296991Is there a world where you could accept a separation forever? Or does it have to work out to be valid?Note that their creator brainstormed his hypothetical continuation, and his two examples both end in breakups.
>>499296951good-max looks really goodbad-safi and loretta are not romance options
>>499296951One great thing about the game is that the atmosphere is very well done. Not in the same league as the first game but I don't think that would be possible any way. Despite my complaints with D9 dropping the beautiful painterly artsyle of the first game for a more generic look, I think the game does still really have a good art direction. And Max still feels like Max. It's the same dorky, shy, cringy pop culture reference dropping photography nerd from the first game, just a lot more grown. More horny, more confident and also more powerful
>>499297291This is an important distinction. Making the game post-bay only is ACTUALLY invalidating a decision. Having Max and Chloe break up in Bae is not invalidating your decision, it’s just a harsher direction than you would have liked.
>>499298056True. I initially sperged out over her bangs but I have grown to really really like her new design she’s so cute.>>499298120Agreed. LiS 1 has an otherworldly dreamy nostalgic vibe that I don’t think can be replicated, every game since has been grounded in heightened realism rather than magical realism. Of all the sequels, DE has my favorite take on the heightened realism style.
>>499297876>Chrono CrossBeen a long time, can you refresh my memory?>Drakengard 2Thankfully has been essentially made non-canon by Taro (since he was never involved in its development)>SMT 2Haven't played that one, admittedly.
The first game’s soundtrack is so gold and no entry since has ever been able to match its perfection.They’re always pretty good but LiS 1 is 10/10.
>>499297630I'll be fully honest. This is /lisg/, a very Pricefield-centric place that aggressively defended itself in the past and made its own identity unique to LiS communities, for better and for worse. All the cuteposting was (and is) for fun, not realistic to what these characters would endure it real. Some posters do go a bit unhinged. People get emotional over these games and characters. I am waiting to see how it plays out but man does it hurt a bit. From the instant I heard about a Max-based sequel I felt that sinking feeling. I've gladly jumped into every other game in the series. None damaged the beauty of what came before. Now there is something threatening that and I do not like it. I do not understand it, and I gave a very specific list of why I currently believe the whole game as a project was misguided and unneeded. Because you shouldn't have long-time fans ever feeling like that, and if I'm in a minority then so be it. I've long made my peace with how I envisioned how Max and Chloe handled things.
>>499298120Are you going to say the same shit in every tread
>>499298569>Didn't remember / goalpost moving / didn't playI accept your concession.
>>499298842?? This is the first time I've posted any praise about DE? Mostly because it seemed like the only discussions about the game before were hyper focused on the other stuff. I mean if there's someone else in these threads who also shares my opinions, I guess I'm glad at least the visual aspect of DE seems to be appreciated here
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>>499297685Max would bring in more buyers, this game was a cash grab
>>499298752I can also extend an olive branch as a defender of this game’s handling of Bae.You guys have had to put up with a lot of shit.>People who discredit the game entirely because “it’s woke” (it’s actually not)>People who discredit the game for being a narrative game>People who discredit the game for having characters speak in a slightly off kilter style (hella/wowsers)>People who HATE Chloe with a passion aka failed the empathy test of the game>People who think Bae has no validity whatsoever as a narrative option that a player, or max, could conceivably take>Amberpricers who took their enjoyment of their ship and turned it into a shitflinging contest instead of playing niceThis barrage of resistance and justification of your enjoyment has created a very defensive little pocket here. I also know that the ship means a lot to all of you personally (in a way that extends beyond what any game can provide).
>>499297970Separation forever is unacceptable to me. If it's a drift apart, try new things, come back together stronger, then that can be a story which grabs my interest (Oh, like the first game!) But this is not that. >>499298156It just continues the canon in one timeline. Nothing is detracted from the Bae ending if it's left as open-ended as it has been. Or if one chooses, the canon for that choice is fleshed out in the comics. You're not respecting people by taking away what many of those who picked that ending in the first place were invested in protecting. You're not writing a clever story by being an iconoclast. People have already said how they could have respected keeping things focused on Max by putting Chloe elsewhere, yet some say that wouldn't work. Because reasons.
>>499298752I understand that. The emotional connection with these characters and stories is what keeps all of us here, I'm sure, and i generally empathize with the Pricefielders. Just wish all of this wasn't such a us vs them grand conspiratorial thing that's it's made out to be
>>499296951Most of the "Adults" feel like they've been written as teenagers.
>>499299984Seems like it's a perfect reflection of the Millenial fanbase and the devs then
>>499299984True. I don’t know how to feel about this. LiS has always been a youthful series. I’m not sure if I’d enjoy the characters acting more realistically their age. A little quirk keeps the tone, I can forgive it, but maybe some can’t.
>>499299984How old is Max supposed to be in this game again?
>>499299984True. They all act like 21 or something.
>>499299984They’re written like Twin Peaks characters, like all of the games.
>>499300225Almost 30.
>>499299984I'm 39 (soon to be 40) years old and emotionally I never grew past my early adolescence so it's not that far-fetched. No idea why I quoted on the original post.
>>499300397Jesus. Should've made her early 20s, the behavior would've made more sense.
>>499300370LiS 1 = Twin PeaksBTS = Twin Peaks: Fire Walk With MeDE = Twin Peaks: The ReturnTrust the plan.
Bay Max has Chloe as an angel on her shoulder…
>>499300673Yeah, the characters are way too immature.
>>499300954Gays go to hell tho.
I'm not suprised Vinh was never mentioned at all in the run up to release.
>>499301083Only God shall judge.
>>499300756I seriously doubt DE will be able to pull something off as Kino as The Return, but if they took inspiration from it, the rumors of the back half of the game being schizo could be interesting.
>>499295970>chloe can't even go to cities with max she wanted to with rachel>David's phonecall in Lis2: they are in New York and Max is looking for some art galleries there>New York was one of the choices where she wanted to go with Rachel in BtS>but now Chloe can't go even though they already were there
>>499301568That was right before their big fight wasn’t it? Hmmmm
>>499301568Some continuity would be nice but the devs got too lazy or just did not give a fuck, which means you can treat as a branch timeline
>>499301568Bravo D9! Unmatched attention to detail!!!
>>499295284Said the one who claim DE is an authentic Max experience, the same Max that apparently doesn't understand anime even if she does in the original game, and can date a grade-A slimy asshole even if the idea of being friend with him would have made her S1 self puke.>>499295610>It's so bizarre how every shipper sees them as this perfect couple made for each other who cannot go through any troubles whatsoeverExtremely bad faith argument already, having a storied of Max and Chloe being capable of solving bumps along the road with their relationship is what made the first game unique and what people liked a lot, because they both are nuanced and complex characters that share a strong bond between each other despite all odds. The lovey-dovey fluff is a just nice addition, but is not just the meat of why people ship Pricefield
>>499301642This is right before Chloe breaks up with her.
>>499301568Maybe they did go but Chloe had a hard time enjoying it and Max could just be exaggerating
>>499301568>DE photo has Chloe with blue hair>Dontnod photo has Chloe with no blue hair
>>499301997How long do I have to wait for sadkino breakup OC? I want a little salt in my wounds. Give me the angst.
>>499301751>Max: I can't even remember the fight
These inconsistencies are meant to be noticed ;)
Is it likely that the remaining 3 chapters will introduces some extreme turbo twist revealing that the Max we play as is not "Our" Max etc?
so why the fuck max has powers anyway?
>>499301852>Max and Chloe being capable of solving bumps along the road with their relationship You do not always need to be together to be solving bumps in the road. Sometimes, some bumps require two people to take time and space away from each other to find the answers to their problems. Max and Chloe being separate does not mean their affection is dead or that they can never be back together. And if I'm being honest, a relationship like Max and Chloe's would eventually require some distance to untangle all the trauma. The only thing is that DE shows their relationship as being a lot more distant, but not irredeemable
>>499302324>LikelyNo>PossibleYOU tell ME
>>499302304Thank you, copiumanon =D
>>499299426>>499299939I do appreciate the serious discussions. Even having to look at why I felt upset in the first place. And why I primarily keep my LiS discussion isolated to /here/, because my love for the games for years was experience here. Ideas and discussions that I only saw here that made me feel so much more love towards the games than if I just played them in a room by myself. And even getting a hint that those involved in old drama were now at the reins was not a good thought. I will let D9 do their thing but I am not for one second letting that alter my own feelings.But going away from all that, looking at the separation itself. It's an idea I could see happening, but it would have been a thing discussed by Max and Chloe. That would be a rollercoaster of a story, one which I would want to have a good payoff, but it would not make for a good video game. Which is the problem. This is meant to be a playable experience and something with huge character consequences was just thrown out there as a past fact. I cannot enjoy that experience if all I'm thinking is a lingering "What the fuck?" Years of associating these two characters together and I'm expected to let it go without even being given the ability to try to fight for it. At least as of right now. If the writing is strong, it could result in something really nice by the end. I just don't see it happening.
what is with all the black dudes playing DE in youtube?kinda sus
>>499302660I think this is the main issue.The Majority of peopel who ship them, can understand a breakup or seperation is a possibility, sure.But how it's been done, it's not in character, or even in the spirit of the series. It's like they've just treated it as pruning the branch of a tree.
>>499302829Nogs make for the best react channels. It’s all the best parts of them yelling in a movie theater but without the negatives.
>You dont romance anyone in the game>Cheevo pops up>You get a secret option to message Chloe>You can text "i missed you want to meet again" etc.>Chloe responds positevelyWould you fags be ok with this? Dont forget tho, D9 will completely ignore this ending too if the game sells well enough.
>>499302543That could be a neat idea to explore... if it wasn't for Mallory Littleton telling fans to move on in response to the break up being done in a very half assed way.
>>499302829black dudes love anime and anime has teen drama out the ass. LiS is mostly teen drama
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>>499300954>Max has moral dilemma>Devil!Chloe appears on shoulder>Max: "Hey, where's the other one?">Devil!Rachel appears on other shoulder>"I can already tell I am going to need to call someone for bail."
>>499302829They got baited and promised that their homegirl, Diamond was going to be the MC which she will be if it gets a sequel. Anybody excited for a black protag?
>>499302906>it's not in characterDisagree.>in the spirit of the seriesAgree. This is the real issue I have with it. Not sure how it could have been done better, but this is a major thing to do as backstory. Rough.
>>499299023You're still more likely to find contempt for gamers in western devs. Largely because they're all a bunch of failed Hollywood hacks.
>>499303185Chloe would not have done it via a letter, especially given that Max sort of did that to her after her dad died. It's way too impersonal and lacks emotional closure.
>>499303149Diamond Game + Orange Man’s second term will be the actual death of the franchise.
>>499302378Superior genetics
>>499300113You know we're also millennials in here. Unless you actually admit you're like 42.
>>499302980No
>>499303339D9 confused her with Rachel. Rachel was the queen of letters.
>Don't let my mom die Max, she doesn't deserve that!>Max:
>>499303185I think being able to play it, hard as it would be, might have helped.Your choices either lead into a screaming fight and broken windows, or a mutual sort of agreement to seek their own adventures for a while. not an end, but a pause.
DE might be a competent bay game so just for curiosity, what would ease bae more?Putting a small note when launching the game "In a multiverse of infinite possibilities, this is one version of what happened" like in the comics orCompletely patching out the bae path (I mean, it's just one choice screen to erase)
>>499303127Based answer
>>499302324No indication of that, at some point Max will meet the other Max, but from what i heard, i'm not sure if it's actually another timeline Max or Safi
>>499303149I am now firmly against DEI
>>499303464I'm almost 40.The marketing for De is mostly aimed at the Tiktok kids, who from my experience don't give a fuck about the series beyond the Gayness.
>>499303687>Putting a small note when launching the game "In a multiverse of infinite possibilities, this is one version of what happened" like in the comicsIf they did that from the start, we would have groaned but at least there's a vision they want to explore and some shred or artistic integrity.
>>499303127welp now I have to reinstall this game
>>499303687With the behind the scenes debacle, and the avoidance of talking about Chloe prior premium release, there is no fixing that shit, it's over
>>499303687Being honest from the start."This is set in the Sacrifice Arcadia timeline, as we felt our story would be more impactful in this way, and enable us to tell it to you. If this isn't the ending you chose, thats fine too, your ideas of where Max & Chloe end up together are your own personal canon, but we hope you give us the chance to show you our interpretation."
>>499303715It's Safi, people posted screenshot of files with the shifting effect on Max. She reveals her powers right at the start of episode 4.
>>499303339The information needs to be conveyed to the player in some way, a letter is better than any other way I can think of.I think the headcanon that she didn’t want to risk a rewind is good, but I’m not going to fully lean on it.Alternative headcanon that Chloe simply couldn’t face Max and it was too hard for her to do it in person, or that she would have been convinced to stay and she sees this as being in Max’s best interest, or just Chloe being flighty and running away after a rough moment, there’s plenty of plausible reasons for why this could happen.My image of her character isn’t shattered, at any rate.
>>499303127What?
Replaying LiS and yeah, its pretty comfy. Episode 1 is kinda a lot of dicking around for no reason, and plot barely moves, but the beginning of two is incredibly comfy. Will see where it will go next.Also fuck you retards, I WILL play the fuck out of DE.
>>499304323Based normalchad
>>499304323Bare in mind that it’s 2 different studios you’re dealing with. It’s like Fallout 4 vs. Fallout New Vegas situation going on.
>>499303687They should have just made a Bay game. Pricefielder would have played it, if it was decent just for Max.Instead they decided to insult half the fan base for no reason and ruin the canon of a well beloved game 10 years later.
>>499303687Nothing could have been done. Any of the suggestions given would have drawn the same ire and they would have given other ways to “fix” it.
If they really wanted to Joker 2 it they should have done this:Bae:>As-is in the game, except actually make Victoria her new girlfriend. Completely cucked, just fuck my shit up senpai.Bay:>Ghost Chloe adventures, you wanted to get rid of Chloe? Here’s a whole game having to deal with her. Enjoy!
>>499305304>No Max being raped in the ass so hard she stops being a lesbianTerrible Joker 2 ideas.
>>499305304Jokes on you I’m a Bay Pricefielder and Ghost Chloe adventures would be my ideal followup.
>>499303185If anything, in a game, I'm glad it's the past. I just can't shake that a letter reminds me what Rachel was going to do. Chloe at least delivered it but it still doesn't feel right. I would have done a callback to Farewell and used the tape recorder. Letting the player hear Chloe struggling to do what she believes is needed.>Is this on? ... I love you so, so, much...but I need to go. I don't know for how long. Max, ever since you came back, ever since Rachel disappeared, I don't know what I have been doing. One day I'm trying to play knight and save the princess who's already gone, the next I'm the damsel being saved. Again and again. It's been nonstop. I see how much it hurts you too. Every time you wake up from a nightmare. Every time I look into your eyes, when I just see everyone else...mom, my friends, people I never spoke with but saw around town. I know you see them in my eyes too. I'm alive because they are not. But am I really living? I feel so bad for even thinking it, am I in control or am I still being guided by you averting every fuck up. I could never ask you. That's why I have to leave. Why I have to do it like this, before you can stop me. Before I can let you convince me to stay. Before we're kissing and pretending it's all going to be okay, again. I love you, Max Caulfield. Don't you ever forget that and don't you ever let it stop you from loving someone if they're worthy of it.
>>499305304>Johnny Silverhand Chloe Kino
Bay max's story ends.
>>499294374>and another Max acting the role of Nathan>Max acting the role of the student who was being manipulated by Jefferson to drug and kill and who was going crazy>bayfags watching this>Jefferson walks in>"You were so easy to manipulate. Just like Nathan"
>>499305565Media Literacy: 0%
>>499305565RIP Max.
>>499304276Most of those reasons feel very filmsy at best, considering that we have solid evidence from former devs that the majority of the narrative team at D9 considers Bae the "morally evil ending" and hate Chloe as a character (which is quite funny, considering Before the Storm is the game that helped them build their studio and definitely understood a part of Chloe's character).And yeah, much like Michel, if you want to show a breakup it should be a lot more than the half assed crap with retcons like >>499301568 and lack of clarity we have been show with DE
>>499305304Actually Arkham Knight style Bay Chloe would be fucking amazing.>Shows up unexpected at the worst times>Constantly teases you about "killing her">Shows you knightmare scenarios>Makes fun of your current story>Shits on your potential romance optionsWhat could have been...
the leaks say anything about the comet or is that just another red herring?
>>499305795>Solid evidenceOne reddit post from a disgruntled employee telling you what you wanted to hear in your moment of pain, for reasons we know nothing about, with claims that can’t be verified.
>>499305507While this would be closer to how I personally would have wanted to see it done, I do have a rebuttal.The letter as-is allows a lot more personal interpretation into their relationship. It keeps enough vague to allow you to tell your own story of what happened. Glimpses of hardship and reasons it didn’t work, not a definitive declaration of how they felt and what really went down.One could say your version is too restrictive and narrow and tells too much.
How many times are you going to parrot "disgrunted employee" any time someone attacks D9?Are you a bot? An intern?
>>499301568>>499301751Chloe and Max fought over Chloe moaning Rachel's name during sex CONFIRMED
>>499306053That one was partially corroborated by the other former dev and Peter Conlin, who admitted the Bae thing. We know that Phil Spear was ThreadofFates cancelling threads mentioning Chloe or direct criticism of DE, and he was pissed off at her for saying that. Honestly, I do not think she's far off, considering what has been revealed of D9 toxic workplace by Rebekah Valentine's IGN article
In the end, it turns out Chloe was like Reznov in Black Ops. not really there, and Max has just destroyed the University and left hundreds dead.
>>499306414That’s what they were, right? How many times are you going to rely on one perspective to theorycraft an entire narrative around that makes the people who didn’t do what you want into malicious monsters out to get you specifically?
I miss Dontnod
>>499306319I didn’t consider this but yeah doing this offscreen does have the minor benefit of allowing more headcanon. I don’t think it’s worth it and fans would have preferred to see it go down but it’s not without any positives whatsoever.
>>499306563Oh hi Philip, didn't know you are also here on 4chan other than reddit. Everything going well in trying to get into D9's good graces again?
>>499306834>LiS 2I honestly don’t.
>>499305507Having said that, I would have still preferred if it was a negotiated thing. But the secrecy is how Chloe will prove those things. Max not knowing where she is, Chloe living on her own, proving she is in control. So that one day she can face Max again without any doubt. That's where I hope these things end up.>That day when Chloe is standing outside Max's door, shivering both from the cold and from the nerves>Knocks>Max answers>Chloe gives a small smile, "Hey.">Max grabs her own arm but holds her head high. "Hey yourself.">Chloe takes a deep breath, "Sooo...what was it last time? Five years? heh... Look, Max I-" >Max: "Stop, Chloe. Just answer this, are we going to make it?">Chloe: "We'll never know unless we try.">Max reaches into her door and puts on a coat, camera strap around her neck, "Let's take a walk.">The two of them walk down a path, come across a set of tracks>Both turn and look at each other, offering out a hand>https://www.youtube.com/watch?app=desktop&v=7AYtfNgnRxI plays
>>499306961>Boogieman postingNot beating the allegations.
>>499307010I hate LiS 2 as much as the next guy but that’s the thing: DONTNOD makes absolute gold or absolute shit. Know why? They are artists with vision willing to put that first.Deck Nine are a clean up crew, their games are not a result of vision, but rather an attempt to recapture someone else’s magic. That’s why they can only make safe, mid games.
>>499307187He was really defensive of D9 on reddit before he was outed on Discord, wouldn't be surprised if he knows of /lisg/ as well. Bet he sucks their cocks for free since he doesn't work there anymore.
>>499307058That would hit just right.
>>499307010LiS had potential, just wasn't executed too well. Thought the first two episodes were decent then it went downhill.
>>499307423Harsh, but fair. I was really hoping DE was going to be D9’s break out, and while I’m enjoying it the most out of their games so far, it’s still just safe mid.
>>499307058
DE Max is beautiful, I want to see what Chloe looks like ;-;
You know Chloe wants Victoria 'cause she has a porsche
>you ever had a thing for the wrong personchloe sisters the world is laughing
>>499299984All of them have spent their entire adulthoods in academia aside from Max so they lack scope, yeah. They're all Arts majors with rich parents, it'd be weird if they were mature.
Does anyone know where the crosstalk post strings are stored?
>>499308770Max is for Vinh only
>>499309156You don’t even believe that.Vinh path is exclusively a shitpost choice.
>>499308770Chloe was to Max what Rachel was to Chloe
>>499309485Rachel’s love for cock and drugs is the only thing pure in this franchise.
I want more Steph.
Literally me.
A cut journal entry from EP1 replacing the bae breakup entry
>>499309709I have no doubt she will return at some point.probably without Alex, but they will learn to say that Alex is on vacation with Ethan and Charlotte instead of "She broke up the band".
If Chloe was a man, everyone would hate Pricefield
>>499310493Men and women are different, shocker.
>>499304281Dude from dishonored who gives people powers for shits and giggles
>>499310430"I'm not sick. I've got plenty of money. The truck hasn't even broken down in the last few hundred miles. But where would I go? There's nobody waiting for me. Mom and Dad have their own lives. I doubt anyone from Arcadia Bay even remembers me.""I've never really thought about killing myself before. I don't think I'm thinking about it now. It feels like too much effort. Maybe I'll just lie here until I become part of the duvet.""Or maybe I'll go photograph that amazing sunset. Either or.""I'm a photographer now, aren't I? Here's a photo. This is the only world that exists anymore, at least from this motel bed."
>>499309709those eyes tho,imagine the blowjobs
>>499310706On that note, does max ever mention her finances in DE? Given her decent paying job and international recognition, she must be fairly well off.
>>499302829Max is a snowbunny
>>499311047Safi mentions that she has health insurance now
>>499303761Zoomers, then. Because Millennials are our generation.
>>499310493>Bitter, resentful punk loner boy with a smart mouth who hates life but is an absolute puppy who lives on his waifu's leash and will fight the whole world for her.Anon, as a lesbian myself I try to be careful about how I pull the misogyny card on 4chan, but I feel like I need to pull it here to stress to you: if male Chloe existed, Twitter would go on FUCKING CRUSADES for him. What you are describing is Gambit, and the last couple years ought to tell you how terminally-online people feel about him.
>>499311245She isn’t a size queen based on her willingness to be RICED.
>>499308357probably like shit
>>499311047international?kek
>>499308357Here's hoping we see!
>>499311450I wonder how does Josh Luna feel about DE Max.
>>499310493Idk I think a male damsel in distress could work, but the series would probably be mostly for girls ala Twilight.
>>499305542Wake the fuck up, pirate. We've got school to burn
>>499311384Yeah, I saw the shitstorm when he got cucked by Mag-fucking-neto.
Just give one reunion scene and make all the pain worth it
>>499312041>Chloe, what the hell are you talking about?
>>499312087Spoilers for the show: Even the writers knew people'd feel that way in advance, because Rogue and Magneto never go farther than a kiss during the present events of the series, and Rogue actually rebuffs him and chooses Gambit over him. Then Genosha is destroyed, and Gambit dies heroically saving the survivors from the attackers - BEFORE Rogue can apologize for breaking his heart and tell him she loves him. This then causes her to go on a spiral and the entire rest of the season her motivation is avenging him, to the point she gets a near two-minute sequence of beating the shit out of the villain who was punking the entire X-Men otherwise punctuated with "His name was Gambit. REMEMBER it."
>>499310493Only women. Chloe would be more popular with male gamers if she was an angry, belligerent but ultimately loyal man.
>>499312589Nah, he’d be seen as weak.
>>499309451Nah, Vinh is Max canon boyfriend
>>499312807True
>>499312589They filtered millions.
>>499312261You'll have to pay for the next game then
>>499312589>loyalLol. Lmao even. That dumb bastard killed more of his own group members that any other character, apart from fucking Ben, but at least Ben meant that. That motherfucker is just a mad dog that needed to be put down for his own good. Kinda like Chloe, the more you think about it.
||"I'm not sick. I've got plenty of money. The truck hasn't even broken down in the last few hundred miles. But where would I go? There's nobody waiting for me. Mom and Dad have their own lives. I doubt anyone from Arcadia Bay even remembers me.""I've never really thought about killing myself before. I don't think I'm thinking about it now. It feels like too much effort. Maybe I'll just lie here until I become part of the duvet.""Or maybe I'll go photograph that amazing sunset. Either or.""I'm a photographer now, aren't I? Here's a photo. This is the only world that exists anymore, at least from this motel bed."||I can see why they cut this, then left it in.
>>499313863This is from the Bay path right?
>>499312807Nah, Vihn is Safi's boyfriend.Next thing what happens is Max exposed for cheating and trying to date multiple people on campus."It's two timelines right, they won't even notice right? Right?!">players get an achievement for that to show offtopkekhttps://youtu.be/x69gEV05bS4?si=n_9IWo25Bbu7eGUo
>>499310493If Chloe was a man, Double Exposure would have him be a present character, lol.
>>499317679>Last pic before breakup
>>499312041Wait they changed the pic and Chloe's hair colour? Or is this an edit?
Is it Chloe on the Bay or Bae achievement pic?
>>499318271Shit, meant to reply to >>499317679
>>499318271>>499318452Yes, and no, it isn't some sort of hint on that not being the "real" Chloe
>>499317679>doesn't have blue stands of hair like in the photo D9 showed >>499270631Photoshop? Deepfake? Real?
>>499318359Nope
8 more days...
>>499318686It's probably a color edit, quite easy to do
>>499314184Nope, that’s Bae.
>>499319065i'm really looking foward on how stupid the whole plot thing is
>>499319236>Nope, that’s Bae.So why is there a line>I doubt anyone from Arcadia Bay even remembers me.when the town is destroyed. David and Victoria are like the only people who got out
Can Max even be the one to seek out Chloe? Wouldn't it feel like pressuring Chloe? Or was it what Chloe wanted, if she wants me she will go after me? Poor communication creates problems in general and we don't even know which side will make a move. I am sure they will find each other again. They always do.
>>499320241There are randos who survived.I’m working off the info of the person who posted, who said this was replaced by the Bae entry. Here:>>499310430>>499310706And>>499313863Has an image called “break up ep 1”
>>499313863>Bae Max contemplating suicideOH NONONO MAX HANGING FROM A TREE POSTER WHAT HAPPENED?
>>499313863>I've never really thought about killing myself before. I don't think I'm thinking about it now.""I don't think I'm thinking about it now" uhm probably not, that's exactly why she wrote this
The devs are not so stealthily updating the game lol
>>499320796According with what Max kept repeating, "Chloe wanted to think about the future, but Max was stuck in the past" - So that would be the "character arc" for Max. But remember, D9 glorious award winning writing, where Max wanted to settle down but Chloe was anxious about Max using her powers, or whatever the fuck D9 wants to convey
>>499278129If you have a local mom & pop store you could try them
>>499313863>The truck hasn't even broken down in the last few hundred milesSo this is the supposed new breakup page and Max is driving Chloe's truck?
>>499321327Have you girls tried counselling? Like obviously omitting all the supernatural stuff. There's still some really human issues at play.Or, Steph should get them in contact with Alex. Who may be able to understand and help in a unique way.
>>499320796Don't think about it too much, it'll never come up again since Diamond is replacing Max.
>>499322129>"The community has spoken. We tried to give you guys more Max, but clearly that isn't what you're interested in."They're gonna Megaman Legends 3 this shit just watch
>>499321878>counselling
>>499303127Would Max accept the mark of the Outsider?
>>499322129>dam dis bitch is cray cray, i got powas, rangz of powa!
>>499322129We should have listened to the chuds about DEI
How the fuck are Baefags going to recover from this game?
What's exactly wrong with Diamond becoming the new face of LiS?
>>499322975I want MAX AND CHLOE not whatever DEI agenda slop they're trying to push
>>499322975Nothing. I want a black lis protag so bad. Will filters chuds and incels.
>>499322838The same way we moved on from the mess that was LiS 2. Notice what is not in the OP?
>>499323169>Complains about DEI>Wants lesbiansUh...?
>>499323417Incels are really something when the crawl out of /v/
>>499323417Lesbians have been there since the beginning though, they're not trying to forcibly include that
>>499323417Can't qwhite put my finger on why they're upset...
>>499244878
>>499323346>pricefieldfags seething so much they can’t even acknowledge a new gameKek
>>499318271>>499318686It's a mod
>>499323346>The same way we moved on from the mess that was LiS 2. Notice what is not in the OP?So your answer is not to recover, but just to ignore it, thinking it would go away? LOL
>>499323346LiS2 is not an issue. Like the game, or ignore it because it's not your thing, no harm is done by it. It was its own story that managed to throw a really nice connection to the first from an unlikely source, I don't know who decided for David of all people to be the link- but thank you. Seeing him in a much better place and a better relationship with Chloe was fucking awesome.
>>499324738Well, well, how the turns have tabled.
>>499323283Yeah that worked great with LiS2
>>499323417Lesbians don't commit 51% of all murders
>>499327185Because they were boys. Now a black lesbian protag? Moneymaker. D9 has a potential cash cow in their hands and they know it hence the sequel tease.
>>499303554>Chloe actually becomes selfless for once and agrees to sacrifice herself>Max becomes selfish again and dooms thousands
>>499323346OH NO GOD WHAT ARE WE GOING TO DO, SOMEONE CALL THE NATIONAL GUARD OR SOMETHING, the fetishists are denying the existence of a game and at the same time there is no thread where they don't mention it LMAO, fucking retards.
We never knew how good we had it
>>499328168Look at this dude, he think that was a Gotcha moment, oh no no no no no
>>499317679Wasn't it a darker green? this is like pee green, LiS2's photo was perfect, I loved Sean's comment wondering which one was the daughter.
>>499328037The only thing that matters in life is your own happiness. The world still turns whether one person or a thousand die. Nobody should be coerced into acting on some moral argument. All one needs to focus on is for the good of oneself.
>>499329181
>>499328951I actually loved green-hair Chloe. Even if it was just faded blue with her natural color coming through. Please let me see her older and actually modeled. Who knows what color(s) she's rocking now. That whole interaction with David was perfect, the exact way to reference another game in the series.
>>499329364Rand's argument was to suck some liberal cock, by making up some ideal fictional business man being held back by pesky morals, it not the same thing
>>499328593We were younger, we were younger
>>499329181>>499329364always knew pricefielders were sociopaths...
>>499329492It would have been great if Max and Chloe interacted with Sean and Daniel in Away, but I imagine it would have been a very complicated management from Dontnod's point of view, one day I will write a fanfic about it, Max will ask Sean how it feels to deal with a brother with powers and Sean will tell her that it doesn't matter to him, that he loves his brother no matter what and that he still sees him the same, that will help Max to overcome the wounds and insecurities that she surely carries after what happened in Arcadia Bay.
>>499329181Objectivism is based. Selfishness is a virtue. Greed is good.
Does anyone else find it cute that Max wears eyeshadow despite not wearing any makeup at all? Why do you think she does it?
>>499330126I wasn't sure how involved I wanted Max and Chloe in LiS2. At most, I wanted a background appearance or a short meeting that was without tons of attention brought to it. Like you saw the two girls sitting by the truck and could go up and talk to them for a few minutes. If the characters were able to sit down and have a full discussion, then it would certainly be interesting. Sean and Max talking about how far they can go to protect their loved one, but also not wanting to stifle all freedom. Letting them learn through trial and error. Chloe and Daniel goofing off on the sidelines with the telekinetic power, finding some childlike joy over something special.One thing I liked about LiS vs LiS2 was the sequel's handling of powers. Nothing universe-breaking but still a dilemma of when/where to use them. Something Daniel had to decide on his own as he grew up.
>>499260425fat max caulfieldfat max caulfield
>>499259962The moment I knew the next Life is Strange brought back Max as the protagonist, I knew the game was going to be controversial. Sequels always ruin the original these days and people have a lot of headcanon about what happened to Chloe and Max. They should have just left it alone. Oh well I'm just gonna consider this game non-canon like I did with the Star Wars sequels.
>>499270631Of course not, me, Max, and Chloe formed a throuple together.
>>499329181>>499330279Quite literally evil.
>>499330801
>>499277550I'm always melancholic whenever I think of Life is Strange. I wished I never played this game.
>>499322975Le quirky black protag that totally cares about le social issues is obnoxiously overplayed and not as refreshing as what LiS (aside from 2) is already giving us. No thanks!
>>499322975Life is Shaniqua
>>499289760Let me in, Chloe. I'm good for you.
Honestly I've never played a LiS game (walking simulators / narrative games aren't my thing) and I'm just lurking this place due to the massive shitstorm (I like shitstorms), sometimes feeding the fire.
>>499330580cause she's a whore
>>499333625I'm just here for my girls Max and Chloe. I don't care about the shippingfags or the literal fag fans of the game.
>>499333625Same.
>>499333625Based. Life is Strange was the game that convinced me narrative games can have value (but usually don’t).
Imagine the amount of cocks these two have taken in each of their mouths.
>>499301568>Max and Chloe patch things up>Chloe suggests going to NYC because she's always wanted to see it>Max says they've been through this, they've been there before>Chloe yells no they haven't>Max says she has photos of the two of them at tons of landmarks>Chloe calls Max insane>Much more arguing
Even if this theory turns out to be not true in the slightest, it was so fucking peak. Someone needs to make a fic out of it immediately.
https://x.com/stwfex_/status/1848401650622271525
I would give everything to experience a Max and Chloe blowjob sandwich. Max would be awkward and shy with Chloe being bold and teaching Max.
>>499338185Max is a huge whore underneath her nerd act. She probably has more experience with men than Chloe by now.
>>499338343I mean with the teenage versions of them. I do not care for HagMax.
What were some of the best/most crazy fan theories during Life is Strange 1, before the whole season had finished?
>>499334026hundreds served, surely
>>499337314Backtalk was so fucking cringe and it was barely used on top of that
>>499340638The old lady behind the diner was Max.
>>499340638It was a while ago now. But some of the ones that still stand out to me:>Groundskeeper guy was a killer/responsible for Rachel disappearing>Frank got Rachel involved in stuff that resulted in her being killed>Rachel was killed by a Max from another timeline>Rachel was still alive but disappeared due to developing powers like Max did>Chloe knew what happened to Rachel but mentally blocked it out>Max was responsible for the accident Chloe's father was in>Max's powers were linked to the spirit/soul of Rachel>Chloe was not being honest with Max about the extent of her relationship with Rachel>Arcadia Bay was stuck in a time loop>Homeless lady was Max who got stuck in the past of this timeline>Rachel's disappearance was linked to a serial killer (turned out to be mostly right, but wrong on certain details)>Rachel was still alive and would return in a later episode to drive a wedge between Chloe/Max>Victoria and her two cronies knew what happened to Rachel>Nathan killed Rachel and buried her on his families new estate development (turned out to be partly right)>Chloe/Victoria/Kate/Dana etc actually had their own powers that had either not yet manifested, were very subtle or were able to be kept secret>Warren killed Rachel and was always hanging around Max because he planned to do the same to her>David killed Rachel and covered it up>Rachel was buried in Chloe's backyard>Rachel was buried at the foot of the lighthouse>Rachel was buried under the native American totem at Blackwell>Rachel was communicating with Max using subtle signs like the butterfly, doe etc>Max was actually the one shot in the bathroom by Nathan and LiS 1 was us seeing her final desire to have been able to reconnect with Chloe as her brain was shutting downI actually think some of these old theories could make for decent fics desu
>>499342759>Frank got Rachel involved in stuff that resulted in her being killedMore or less
Chloe could forever live with the possibility that her decisions are not truly hers, but predetermined by Max to her liking. Horrifying.
Do you think Nathan and Victoria ever banged. I don't know why but when I first played the game, i thought Nathan and Victoria were a couple.
>>499342759>Rachel was still alive but disappeared due to developing powers like Max did>Arcadia Bay was stuck in a time loop>Rachel was buried at the foot of the lighthouseThose were ones I was going with for at least a little while.Along with some others like the Prescotts knowing about the storm/a prophecy of a girl with powers (Rachel being their first guess, then Kate), the homeless lady had some kind of supernatural knowledge. Things were so long ago that I'm sure I cannot remember them all and at what points they came up. >Max's powers were linked to the spirit/soul of Rachel>Rachel was communicating with Max using subtle signs like the butterfly, doe etcThese are ones I still buy into in some form.
>>499340638Jefferson had powers. It was the counterpart to Max' time powers; he could control space and the "dark room" was actually a pocket dimension.
>>499344508>I love you too, anon. We'll have lots of babies together
>>499344848Oh! I just remembered another one related to Jefferson. That he was going to figure out Max was up to something. Seeing the changes in her attitude, security footage that shows her essentially teleporting, stuff like that. He would piece together that she was changing things.
>>499345873He knew that she was investigating anyway, that's why he had everything prepared and was always ahead of them. So it's like he partially knew about her "powers", without him literally saying it in the game "I know you have powers."
>>499349812Which LiS girl was staffing the gloryhole?
>>499350224It clearly shows Max
>>499350510It's for her new photo wall project, titled 'the boys of blackwell'
>>499321273What did they change?
>>499350224>girl
>>499350224100% Nathan
I wish I had an American girlfriend
>>499353626I would not wish that on my own worst enemy
>>Safi's second favorite oral fixation
>>499344118
>>499357998
>>499358171>Finds Max cool enough to steal her girlfriend.
Remember that "but it's realistic" isn't an excuse for poor writing or half assed narrative decisions driven by spite and/or incompetence
>>499359209Completely different and tragic circumstances, this not some gotcha. Just massive reddit(?) cope
>>499359668>cope is when you point out bad and out of character writing to justfiy a breakup
>Chloe-Vision
>>499295789Well put, and while I still dislike it, if they do get back together in the end or in a sequel project (be it game or comic) or even if the choice she can supposedly make about going back to the Bay or Chloe is real then I can probably look past it. Sadly at the very least we're still going to be waiting for the release to know either way.
>>499359209I'm a massive Baefag and would enjoy the catharsis of a silver bullet in the current conversations, but using that womans real life trauma she shared to try and help real couple no be influenced by shitty relationship advice is fucking vile.
>>499364034>I'm a massive...fag
>>499365135...C'mon anon, you can do better than that, surely? At least call me a faggot or imply I hang out at glory holes, put some effort into your insults.
>>499365910>At least call me a faggotI did retard, all that time at the glory hole must have turned your brain gay
D9's survival rely on an IP they don't own, you could imagine they'd treat it a bit better.SE isn't helping of course.This game won't bomb but it won't do amazing either. Just another game that people will forget fast. (Well, pricefielders won't but not for the good reasons)
>>499367570>This game won't bomb but it won't do amazing either.Much likely it will be noted by Square as "Uh this didn't meet our financial expectation" which are 90% unrealistic standards put onto a niche game
>>499367143Better. Keep working on that banter.
>>499367570If they get back together, I could actually appreciate DE's plot. I don't LIKE that they broke them up in this timeline, but I can appreciate the angst of it if they reconcile, which supposedly the ending Max has the option to go and do.
>>499368031LiS games don't have gigantic budgets, sells have to be particularly bad to not at least recoup costs. Scummy early access, collectors, product placements, they made sure to mitigate risks.But not impossible, sure.With a bomb, SE JP might start looking at wtf western SE is doing and initiate changes. 100% wishful thinking.
daily leak from ch3-5 until the game releases, #1
>>499369304What is this now?
>>499369280DE will not bomb, it is basically impossible for LiS games to do that. But it will very much under perform and that will trigger a review by Square. I expect that when looking at the LiS IP from an opportunity cost perspective vs its very modest profit, they will just sell it. MS being the obvious buyer here and will probably just reboot the entire franchise.
>>499369280Doesn't matter. Diamond's game is still happening. Seethe.
Forgot how much I loved the trippy dream sequences in the last part. Wish I could forget and experience it anew again.
>499369304Whelp, guess this general is unusable until the game is out, great
>499370151Imagine actually buying that shit game.
>>499370040Honestly it was my most disliked part of my already most disliked episode. It was pretty transparently just a way to cheaply pad out the length of the episode by using already existing assets. The nightmare did have some parts that were really good and worth including, but the sheer length of the sequence resulted in what was basically too little butter being spread over too much bread.The nightmare sequence should have only been the dark room stuff, Max 'waking up' back in episode 1 and the final section in the dinner/reflecting on Chloe. Everything else was a superfluous waste of time.All these years later and I'm still so disappointed by episode 5 and to a lesser extent episode 4.LiS 1 (and honestly the entire franchise) honestly peaked with episode 3. The only way they could have made that episode any better was if the kiss was in the pool.
>>499369997it could be reggie's, since hes present in the ending
>>499371649So, I never had an explanation on what was the point of the classroom nightmare scene, or student, teacher actions being temporally reversed after exiting class. Could have just had the Jefferson dialogue prompt shit merged in the nightmare Dark Room if that was really needed.Ignoring budget issues, I think Dontnod were trying to be suspenseful and convey Max's thoughts through heavy metaphors - but that is not Dontnod's forte. The deer spirit went nowhere.
>>499369882they already sold publishing rights to bandai namco
>>499376127But is the IP still into Square's, right?
>>499376685still is, bandai just has some publishing rights and seem to do the contract work for SE
Stauder retweeted this article:https://www.rollingstone.com/culture/rs-gaming/life-is-strange-double-exposure-impressions-1235138937/
>>499305654Media literacy: 100%Right in your face from the beginning
>>499377180>Overall, Double Exposure honors players’ personal experience with its progenitor by making your past decisions reverberate in Max’s. It’s a game about unpacking the throes of loss, piece by piece, and fighting for a better future. Longtime fans of the series will be on the edge of their seat to witness how their branching decisions from the game’s past and present unfold when Double Exposure releases on Oct. 29 for PlayStation 5, Xbox Series X/S, Nintendo Switch, and PC.most chatgpt generated section
>>499369380whitey is gonna pay for his crimes
>>499377180>‘Life is Strange: Double Exposure’ Is a Cozy Gaming Take on ‘Twin Peaks’Yeah, real original
>>499377180This was a strange article? It was written in way that makes it sound like this is what the fans have been waiting for.
>>499378038stauder loves lying to himself
>>499340638One crazy theory I remember was (think I found it on twitter or reddit) that someone thought Rachel was pregnant and that’s why she ran away and faked her death, Jefferson and her parents were in on it
>>499359209Reminder that not catering to (you) specifically is not a sign of bad writing and/or incompetence, and that authenticity matters in this franchise.You are an overly emotional, illogical, and frankly spoiled and unpleasant little brat.
Okay Deck sucker
>>499377198See>>499320912You lost.
>>499378998I love DE, I don't like what they did with Chloe. For once in Deck Nine's lifetime, they did a plot no one predicted. Rather it was just leaked, but still, very cool that they did a really good twist with Safi.
>>499378998COUNTERPOINT: Nuh uh
>>499359209Are you comparing a miscarriage to a conscious decision that kills thousands of people?
>>499377567Honestly? Nothing is original. Even LiS1 had a shitton of references or characters inspired by other games/movies. Butterfly Effect, Twin Peaks, Six feet under, Twilight Zone and whatnot. Very original too, if you think about that.And that isn't even me defending D9, since I don't even play DE.
>>499379658Originality is overrated, it’s all in the execution.
How will D9 and SE react when any choice even leaning towards reuniting with Chloe is the overwhelmingly picked one in post-storm? Or the backlash if such an option is not even offered?All of this could have been averted if they were up front while marketing. Admitting up front that Max is on the receiving end of that happened to Chloe, and players will guide her through her own journey to where she belongs. Wherever that may be.
>>499378793>Rachel pregnantHow fast would Chloe have killed herself if she saw Rachel got knocked up
>>499379658Maybe they were more pointing to the fact that the same thing was said for LiS 1, 2, BtS, and TC. Seems like lazy journos just toss in "Twin Peaks" and call it a day.
>>499379932What matters most to them is sales. Under a certain number and there is no more series, probably.Assuming it meets that minimum threshold, depends on what the team wants to do. Use Max again? More of a True Colors thing?If they want to use Max again, maybe internal statistics will matter, hopefully they have knowledge of what players do first because the trophies incentivize choosing every option.
>>499380531Sales which were already taking some kind of initial hit through refunds or people not yet ready to commit. How big? Hard to gauge. When the full game goes on sale, and word gets out about what is/isn't there. Then we can fairly judge the game for its writing, but I think I fairly judged the prerelese actions as being detrimental from a business standpoint.
>>499379932>All of this could have been averted if they were up front while marketing.True, but as much Square might hate Chloe they know quite well that being upfront from the start would have fucked over pre-order sales harder than now.
>>499359209Zoomertea is right, maintaining the dignity of the role of “girlfriend/wife” or “boyfriend/husband” makes for a stronger relationship. Like any other social role, you sacrifice a bit of comfort to strive for something collectively better.That said, a traumatic accident is not the same thing as refusing to uphold the dignity of a relationship. Couples who go through something like that sometimes do split up, but a real relationship based on love would hopefully be able to survive this. In some circumstances, surviving this sort of trauma will actually bond a couple closer together (I can trust you, this love is real).On the third hand, comparing Bae to a miscarriage is completely off base. Max’s actions is a proof of a certain kind of love, but it’s a selfish love. The same kind of love that would prevent someone from pulling the plug on wheelchair Chloe, when she asks you for the higher love of letting her go.
>>499379136I wasn't referring to the speculated autcomes of either ending, just in general that there are multiple hints everywhere, in every game, even in the new game.So considering what was happening with Kate in Ep2 of LiS, it's kinda funny now seeing people immediately brush it off when they already saw the results. "It doesn't mean anything!", well until it does. So I didn't lose anything, I wasn't even the one who posted that "tree" picture.
>>499381195>Max’s actions is a proof of a certain kind of love, but it’s a selfish love.Max has plenty of her own experience that reinforced her the idea that using time travel to fix stuff is potentially dangerous and with unpredictable consequences, so she know that using that photo to let Chloe die doesn't necessarily garantuee the storm from not happening. We know that from a player meta-narrative view, but it doesn't fit with Max's character.>The same kind of love that would prevent someone from pulling the plug on wheelchair Chloe, when she asks you for the higher love of letting her go.I pulled the plug on cripple Chloe and still choose Bae without problems, because in that reality the storm was still coming regardless if Chloe was alive or a foot in the grave.
>Baefags mad that DE shits on their preferred ending, ship and characters>Bayfags trolling Pricefield shippers by acting as if DE is actually good (nobody honestly believes this)>/v/ and Twitter collectively making fun of DE and LiS as a whole>Salesfags keep posting low player numbers>D9 boot lickers (with the added help of Bayfags) keep coping that it'll do good>Fake Ex-D9 employees blame everything on SE somehow>Nobody is actually even talking about the early access episodesI wonder what the general was like when LiS2 came out? Or even TC? Gotta be night and day compared to this.Can everyone at least the series went downhill after 1?
>>499381956>Fake Ex-D9 employees blame everything on SE somehowThere is nothing to suggest that the two main accounts most of the information on D9 came from were fake. It also makes perfect sense that SE had some hand (not to say D9 was fully innocent here) in DE being the disaster that it is; We know Square directly interfered with LiS 1 and mandated several objectively negative changes be made to it.>I wonder what the general was like when LiS2 came out?By the time LiS 2 came out, /lisg/ had already processed the hate it had for the lack of a direct Chloe/Max sequel or at-least another lesbian focused game.It was mostly ignored much the same way we are currently basically ignoring most of the content of the DE episodes. The only real discussion of LiS 2 (even into the modern era of /lisg/) is really in relation to the Chloe/Max cameo.>Can everyone at least the series went downhill after 1?I think everyone can agree that the series had a sharp decline after LiS 1. I will defend BtS and TC for what they were. But LiS 1 really stands alone in this franchise.It makes me weep to think what this series would look like had DN done a Chloe/Max focused LiS 2 rather then the sequel we actually got.
>>499381770While I do think that the consequences of the Bay choice could have been better conveyed, and there is a bit of ludonarrative dissonance between Max and the player, I think that Max’s visions give just enough to justify her belief that these are the choices.My actual defense of Bae is that while I think Bay is the higher form of Pricefield Love, the selfish love of Bae derives from Max asserting her agency over the cruel hand of fate, transitioning her from a character that things happen to, to a character that made something happen. The player isn’t a bad person for not wanting to let Chloe go in that moment, hoping that somehow, someway, they can change fate. But, this action will have consequences.
>>499381956in fairness, even in the Pricefield subreddit where people are the angriest, when it was asked what people think of the game if they can put aside the Chloe portion... the majority of the comments say they're enjoying the other elements of the game. That's coming from M+C Diehards who have the least reason to say anything remotely charitable. If hardcore shippers can find something to enjoy, normies will likely do the same *shrugs*.https://www.reddit.com/r/Pricefield/comments/1g8c9ig/about_double_exposure/
>>499382995it's so funny to me how the first chronos mentions were during the release of ep3 of lis 2 and it was known as the M&C prototype
>>499383057>Max asserting her agency over the cruel hand of fate, transitioning her from a character that things happen to, to a character that made something happenThat's actually the main reason I always choose it, aside from hating "it was just a dream" endings, which Bay effectively is for Max.
>>499381956>by acting as if DE is actually good (nobody honestly believes this)Sup. (So far anyway)>Fake Ex-D9 employeesI don’t think they are fake, but I do think their narrative should be taken with a grain of salt, rather than the bedrock of headcanon that turns people who didn’t write a game exactly the way you want into monsters out to get you.>LiS 1It can never happen again, LiS 1 was a miracle that can’t be replicated. I still enjoy the rest of the franchise outside of 2, though.>>499382995>Better LiS 2 from DONTNODOne could only dream.
So many people disregarding Pricefield as "teen love", "people break up here are the stats", "muh realism" or some other shit fundamentally do not understand Pricefield.for fuck's sake, Max and Chloe see each other as heroes, and already knew each other's flaws wholeheartedly. This is not just some 5-day fling. It is very much implied Chloe cared more for Max than Arcadia Bay - "we were meant to be together, in this exact moment of history", "fuck all of that, you were given a power, you didn't ask for it", etc, etc. Chloe did not see that the storm nor Joyce's death as Max's fault. Chloe only gave Max the choice to sacrifice herself after she saw Max might not be able to live for herself.I can write so much in what is wrong with the portrayal of them in DE.
>>499383504I can write a lot of why Chloe ever fearing Max is wrong. But I could definitely understand Chloe fearing herself. She had very clear objectives in her life for years: find Rachel, help Max, and once she is left with a 'nornal' (Not in any way) life, she gets hit by her worst thoughts. When she doesn't have a pressing task to keep her going forward. A lot like David after the military. Things were good for a time but I don't think Chloe and Max fully confronted what happened. They ran, soothed each other as they could, but still had issues of their own and shared. They're both still have plenty of time to work it out, and I want nothing more than to see that they do.
>>499383504How can you speak for Chloe, for a decision she made when the literal world was at stake? Why is it Impossible for her to be haunted by her choice or even her trust? Do you think of Max and Chloe as static, unchanging characters whose love is like some mythical unchangeable force? It is natural for doubts and fears to come up in any relationship. Even the most secure ones. And the one we're talking about here has been through more trauma than your average one.
It is absolutely okay to be selfish and allow thousands of people to perish from something you uniquely had the power to stop
the way some of y'all are this parasocial about fictional characters from a so-so video game is crazy lol.
>>499384000>Had the power to stop.Prove it.
I only played LiS but i know all other protags have some different powers.My question is, who is the strongest/most dangerous?
>>499384000>checkedTrips of TRUTH
>>499384263Max
>>499384000Would I let Arcadia Bay die for some puss?Uh... yeah? Why wouldn't I? The best people there survive any way. Who gives a shit about the rest? Just move across the country and forget it ever happened.
>>499384000Yes.
>>499384000This. You shouldn't be guilt tripped by some contrived moral dilemma. The only thing that truly matters in this world is yourself and what makes you happy. If you have to care about others, make sure it's because you actually want to care about them and not because an outer force is shaming you into doing so.
>>499383504Agreed, but I think there's some merit from this posting from some other anon that made me reassess my own interpretation.>>499295789i.e., Chloe doesn't see the storm as Max's fault and doesn't blame Max for Joyce's death. But Max in her self-loathing keeps blaming herself relentlessly and *projects* that sense of blame onto Chloe despite Chloe's endless attempts to reassure her. That seems to be the subtext.A whole 'I love you too much to watch you hate yourself endlessly' motivation.
>>499384000>>499384134This. Max in-character genuinely has no way to know whether the storm will arrive anyway. They really should have had Episode 5 being her going through it, and actually witnessing the destruction, and having a more solid knowledge that it would stop. That said, yeah, she can make the selfish choice - that isn't some gotcha. Having to live with that choice, holding onto her conviction that she'll save Chloe no matter what, is all she talks about in her journal and is her entire motivation through most of the game. Both endings are fine and I genuinely don't understand how some people get so hung up on it outside moralfaggotry.Seriously, if it was someone you genuinely loved, and a small town of people you didn't truly know, are you so sure you could let them die 'for the greater good'?
>>499384420The only one I really regret is Kate, and at the time it was uncertain if she was even in any danger given she was taken away to the hospital after her an hero attempt and for all anyone knew wasn't even in the Bay anymore.
>>499384808??? she was a massive homophobe?
>>499383504Pricefield is a relationship fundamentally built on the bonds of childhood and the pull of nostalgia.They really do love each other, on a level above mere sexual attraction or “compatibility”, and yes, they are each other’s heroes, completing each other with their strengths.I also do think it’s possible that Chloe loves Max more than Arcadia Bay, maybe all the way to the end, maybe only right until the end.Regardless, the relationship was at an impasse, they were able to get one over on the universe and had a magical week together, but the future ahead of them was all going to change, in a way that the bedrock of nostalgia and what they are in that moment can’t survive. I think Chloe could simultaneously realized that:1. They’d never be the same after this.2. She didn’t want to live with this on her conscience.3. She’d never be able to look at Max the same way again.4. She actually does care about everyone and everything she knows outside of Max too.5. She didn’t want Max to live with this either.Post-Bae Chloe in DE is left intentionally vague, so we are allowed to headcanon what exactly happened, what their relationship and breakup was like. Maybe Max was delulu and saw resentment that wasn’t there. In my mind, I see Chloe struggling between resentment and forgiveness, holding both views at once.>>499384000It is emotionally reasonable in this particular circumstance. Ultimately I view it as a mistake, but, it’s the kind of mistake you can hardly be blamed for.
>>499384672This worldview actually changed my life for the better. I don't give a fuck about people I don't know about. The ones that do, I love, and that gives me the strength to cherish, protect and support them any way I can. Every time some bleeding heart pussy tries to convince me to "care" about some stupid cause I just roll my eyes. I don't care about those nebulous masses. They don't care about me, either.
>>499384674I get it and I love reading Pricefield angst and overcoming trauma, but the first game established that they will not separate - that was literally the conclusion of the BAE Pricefield arc. It is one of the reasons why I never wanted a fucking sequel because some dickwaving studio would half ass the character development of the first game.
It’s funny to me that the strongest argument for Bae is a form of denial.>Well I wasn’t absolutely POSITIVE that this choice would do what it says it does and what every character believes will happen, so it’s invalidOkay xD
good lord some of you are straight up psychopaths who never grew out of your teenage misanthrope phase
>>499384000Like some people somehow getting out alive from catastrophes with survivor's guilt and having the power to save thousands by rewinding time from the tornado that was already happening at the very start of the game.This is like Ellie from the last of us basically, she's only immune to spores and small bites but thinks her death will save the world entire from the clickers, rapists, boaters etc. who kill her at first sight, although she's the supposed "cure" for all, yet this immune person gets brutally killed in most encounters with the infected as we play.
>>499380939Perfidious Albion strikes again.
>>499385530>the first game established that they will not separateNo?>some dickwaving studio would half ass the character developmentDoes that include Michel? His idea for a Bae sequel is inspired by two stories that end in tragic breakups.The only way the ending you wanted comes to be is in your headcanon.
>>499385530I believe they will build a love that lasts a lifetime, but a separation at one point isn't going to break that. I do see things that they both can only solve alone. Right now things are uncertain but if you truly believe in them then they will pull through.
>>499385638There is no delusion here pal. That storm can destroy 30 more towns for all i care. Hot blue haired chick is going to live.
oh no they rian johnson’d it
>>499385861>His idea for a Bae sequel is inspired by two stories that end in tragic breakups.Michel respect fans, so he keep his ideas for himself and never wanted a Max and Chloe sequel in the first place.
>>499385530>the first game established that they will not separate That is a very weird reading of the ending. I always took the ending as "Max has taken this decision against everything telling her not to, she has embraced the possibility of anything happening as long as Chloe is alive, because that's what truly matters to her. Even if things go wrong, she is willing to face it", not "they will live happily ever after".
>>499385916This I can at least respect. Honest selfishness and a hierarchy of value.
>>499385861Michel mentioned two stories that were emotionally compelling and well written, not that he would have done the same to Max and Chloe. That's miscontruing his words.
>>499385649You can really tell whose parents went through a messy divorce where they were caught in the middle
>>499384835I don't remember who exactly survives but I'm pretty sure the hospital Kate got wasn't in Arcadia? So she's probably safe. We know Victoria survives. David survives depending on choices made in the story. Sucks for Warren and Joyce I guess. Everyone else? Yeah, I'm not losing sleep over a character like Dana (who I forgot existed) or Nathan dying.
>>499385638Nope, no delusion here, just noting that it played a part of the decision. Even if the storm had been sure to flatten everything my course was clear. If anything it's funny to me that some people (You) are still so mad that people made the choice and stand by it.
>>499386090The one that was arguing in good faith about Koch's words said he was gonna take a little time to decompress. Save your breath because that means you're probably talking to the shitposter who's misconstruing on purpose.
>>499385962But most of the fans did want the sequel, seeing as they have clamoring for it ever since the first game released.
>>499386296we were so robbed out of safi + chloe scene,
>>499386231>Save your breath because that means you're probably talking to the shitposter who's misconstruing on purpose.Jesus Christ, cannot wait to see the game relase so we can be over with this stupid crap. Also funny how this whole discourse about DE has trumped whatever theorycrafting and discussion around the content of the latest chapters
>>499385953Naw, DE may occur in the 'main' timelines but LiS is fairly unique in that it's multiverse is a narrative focus. The fact we got the comics, and a happy Bae ending, as well as getting to see an Amberprice timeline where they are happy too, takes all the sting out for me. I'd probably be more annoyed if DE was a continuation of the comics timeline or if they hadn't ever made them but I'm not mad about DE. Disappointed and unwilling to support it? Sure. But not mad. And even that is subject to change is Max really can make the decision at the end to go get her girl back in the finale as the leaks claim.
>>499385962True, at the end of the day this was the sacrifice necessary for a direct sequel. If you have a problem, it should be with the idea of a direct sequel.>>499386090He expressed interest in a “heartache” story and his two examples end in the same result as D9’s DE backstory, only substantially more brutal.He didn’t outright confirm how he’d do it but the implications are clear that his mind is not with the shippers on this one.>>499385953Not at all. Rian’s school of subversion is not what led to this game.
>>499386298Most of the fans were also skeptical and a chunk of them was calling DE a cashgrab.
>>499385953When will these fucks learn that successful art that came before them is not theirs to ruin?
>>499386620That happens with regard to any sequel to a beloved media. There'll be the ones who desperately want a continuation and there'll be the one's who are skeptical. And saying this is a cashgrab isn't wrong but kind of redundant. I'd say every game after the first has been one to an extent, trying to ride the coattails of the first one. Even the very different LiS2 couldn't help but carry the name of the series for engagement
>>499386747Yes, that’s what I said.You have just enough room to hope that both stories he cited as a direction influence aren’t the sort of endings he’d go for. At best, a brutal relationship survival story rather than things falling apart.
>>499386198In the comics at least Kate is on the memorial wall, I believe, but yeah. At the time it seemed like she was probably out of danger.
>>499386581>>499386917I think this is a poor argument because ultimately, Michel has been quite adamant in not wanting a LiS sequel in the first place and wanting the series to keep an anthology approach. As much as I have problem with LiS2, that game has at least more backbone that the shallow crap that is DE
>>499385638>Hot blue hair chickor>Town full of people you probably don't give a shit about because Arcadia Bay sucksI don't really understand the morale aspect of Bay vs Bae. LiS1 doesn't do a good job at painting the people of Arcadia Bay as good people. 95% of the characters suck. Am I supposed to care about characters other than Kate and Warren?
>>499387087I don’t think it’s a poor argument to point out that the original creator was probably never going to give you the Bae sequel you wanted to see either, and that D9’s handling of their Bae trauma is at least in the ballpark of how he’d have done it, even if it was just used as backstory to a more conventional for the series supernatural mystery plot.So yes, the conclusion should be that if you’re unhappy about this direction, the issue was wanting a sequel to LiS 1 in the first place, not that this sequel is “done wrong” or “lazy”.
Release early access, "it's not greed, it's for theorycrafting!"Keep audio spoiling chap 3-5 in the filesNobody cares anymore about the plot, only ChloeActual theorycraft is about Chloe too, that'll most likely leads to nothing10 / 10 marketing
>>499387232dont do dana dirty, she would've kept in contact with max if it werent for shit writers
>>499387472Unless the schizo theory is correct yeah they absolutely dropped the ball with the early release and should have just dumped it all at once.
>>499387232There genuinely isn't one. It's just certain Bayfags trying to pull some weird gotcha. If anything people should bitch about how weirdly Max used her powers the entire time. She's OP as fuck. The girl could have spent a week training herself in self-defence, or just cheated with rewinds, to physically disarm Nathan in the bathroom, and the events of the Bay timeline where he blabs and Jefferson goes down would probably have happened anyway and perhaps avoided the storm too. Or even just dropping an anonymous tip to the FBI by photo jumping about the Dark Room. There are any number of things someone with fucking time control could do that never even occur to Max because there are limits to what a game could do. If you gave someone those powers in a table top RP game you would regret it almost instantly.
>>499387232You're supposed to care about the townspeople because they are people. You know, the reason why most sane non-psychopathic people care and have empathy for each other in the real world.
>>499387452>was probably never going to give you the Bae sequel you wanted to see eitherAnd he didn't. What are you trying to prove? >even if it was just used as backstory to a more conventional for the series supernatural mystery plot.Isn't this a negative point for the series? The strong aspect of LiS wasn't le "spooky murder mistery" but it was a background element on top of a growing of age story mixed with reconstructing a friendship/love story that had a strong bond. You can't just broke Chloe offscreen to replace her with a flat and shallow character like Amanda, because that isn't what made LiS work in the first place.
Bay is the better Pricefield story. I believed that before DE, and I believe it after DE.
>>499387956>muh tragedy of dead lesbianNo. Hot blue haired chick lives.
>>499387715And I care about them in the same way I would in reality; they are worth saving if I can, but given a choice between them and a loved one it's always going to be the loved one.
>>499381956In the immediate aftermath of LiS, there was want for a sequel. Or at least seeing the Bae ending elaborated on with an extended cinematic. I'd say a few months after that, people started to cool and questions of sequels were left with most agreeing that Max and Chloe should only play a small role. Skipping past all the drama that occurred during BtS- learning about LiS2 and reactions were very mixed. Captain Spirit showed that DN still had strength in writing emotional stories. Then the true nature of LiS2 (the brothers) was revealed, the first episode came out...and there wasn't much interest. No lesbians, no comfy small town, "How is this even Life is Strange?" It didn't get many fierce haters because most simply weren't looking at it at all. It had its fans who kept their discussions going in peace among all the S1/Pricefield stuff. The David and Max/Chloe stuff was well received even by people not playing the game.LiS2 ended and its fans were generally good with the ending they earned. Continued discussion of it didn't happen much outside of the times a few decided to bring it up. It was actually a peaceful little bubble within the series, one someone could talk about between the continued arguing over ships or endings of the first. TC exists in the same bubble. My overall thought: the series and fandom is at its best when the stories only hold loose connection to the others.
>>499387956I can respect that. I'll never choose it, but I can respect the idea. I imagine it's especially true if you generally care about Max and her journey into the future which DE can deliver on.
>>499387956Oh for sure. It's the perfect story of loss and love. A story of love that goes beyond time and space and even life and death. The week Chloe spent with Max didn't end up happening. But it did. Chloe ready to sacrifice herself, Max respecting her choice. Max still haunted by Chloe years later. A love that will stay immortalized and untainted
>>499388204>Or at least seeing the Bae ending elaborated on with an extended cinematic.Yeah, there was a lot of frustration at the time, because Bay got an extended and 'full' ending while Bae was vague as fuck. At the time we had no idea how severe the impact of the storm had been or who had even died beyond Joyce and Warren.
>>499387898>What are you trying to prove?That the anger people have towards what this sequel *does* is misplaced. DE as a sequel is actually handling the story quite well, I have quibbles but, for the most part they’re doing pretty well.People upset at what the sequel *does* should get it through their head that what they’re really upset about is that a sequel was made at all.>The strong aspect of LiS wasn't le "spooky murder mistery"I think it’s certainly a part of it and why LiS 2 didn’t go over well (among other things) and why TC is seen as kinda mid (because the comfy was better than the narrative hook).>growing of age storyDE is doing this with Max.>You can't just broke Chloe offscreenYou actually totally can.>to replace her with a flat and shallow character like AmandaI don’t think Amanda replaces Chloe. Safi is the closer analogue so far, but even then, we don’t need another Chloe. We got Chloe, we already love Chloe.>because that isn't what made LiS work in the first place.Life is Strange is the totality of many elements and Pricefield is only one of them.
It's repeating at this point but DE should have been a purely Bay timeline story. Only give glimpses into another where Chloe is there. There were a few ways D9 could have approached a topic they knew fans would be fired up over, and they chose the absolute worst ways possible. Unless they intend to mend it and wow everyone, they started this race with a bullet lodged firmly in their foot. And their defenders are blaming the fans like they're in the wrong. >Stupid gun!
>>499387715>the real worldWell it's a good thing I'm playing a game about some girl with rewind powers then!As for the FICTIONAL townspeople. They suck. Sorry I'd rather save a loved one over a small town mostly full of people I don't know or don't like.
>>499388603>Life is Strange is the totality of many elements and Pricefield is only one of them.You say that, and I'll concede that you aren't wrong in theory, but the fact is that most people basically see LiS2-TC as less important and interesting because they aren't about that. The majority of fans that have kept the hearth fire burning are still here specifically because of Max and Chloe. No amount of trying to reason people out of that mindset will change it, and I think that's where a lot of the internal irritation at SE/ND/D9 comes from too, because they know it. It's just the way it is and the sooner peace is made with that fact the sooner the series can either be retired, focus back on the LiS2-TC style games, or pushed back towards Max and Chloe.>>499388604Yeah, totally agreed. It was the smart play, but they tried to sell using Bae appeal, and totally fumbled it. If you can have Max choose to go win back Chloe at the end some of the ill sentiment might turn around, but not all.
>>499388604First time i watched the announcement trailer i tought they were following the Bay ending and were planning to go for emotional gut punches with "alternate timeline" where Chloe lives and happy with Max or something.
>>499388604>D9 should have not supported a choice for their sequelCongrats you’re in an even worse position assuming SE would even let you do this. You just told the audience that your choices have no consequences, that half the players aren’t worth the time and resources, and you can’t explain to them that “actually if we were to support Bae we’d have to break them up so count your blessings”.The grass is always greener on the other side. You’re asking for an alternative that only seems preferable from where you are right now. If D9 announced this as a Bay only game there would be an even bigger shitfit, I guarantee it.
>>499388554Even some of the fanmade ones brought so much more sense of closure.We knew that at least Michel and Raoul were going to not favor one choice over another because they respected the different ways fans felt, which effectively made a direct sequel impossible. Pricefield was given over the fans and it was treated with so much love. Nothing will change that.
>>499389003That would have been genuinely amazing. There are so many ways they could have gotten it right, I think that's where a lot of the anger is coming from. We didn't need a Bae path. It exists in the comics.
>>499389042You could be right, you could be wrong, but we'll never know. They landed in a shitfest either way. Honestly, the winning move was not to make DE at all, or at least not make it a story about Max.
>>499389043I'm amazed at just how this series has consistently ran away from success.A game about Chloe and Max getting married would have sold far, far better then DE. It was an easy win. For such a niche series, why not give the fans what they want?
>>499389042Unless D9 is going to let the player bring Chloe back into Max's life- then yes, that was the better alternative because at least it was honest instead of teasing those fans and the ripping what they want away. Shippers or not, those who picked Bae expected Max AND Chloe being featured. And this was not something D9 could ever deliver on because it would mean so much more development. Yet they dodged the question and continued to tease. Now they have to win back fans they never should have lost in the first place.
>>499389347>the winning move was not to make DE at all, or at least not make it a story about Max.Pic related.I myself am personally catered to by DE and I’m happy it exists in a selfish way, but there was absolutely no way to get it done without pissing some fans off.The real core of the issue for most of the complaints people have don’t come to laziness, or monsters out to get you, or bad writing, it comes down to the fact that Michel was right in leaving LiS 1 alone.
>>499389510A mini Captain Spirit style release could easily have had this as a focus, and the fans would have eaten it up. Maybe even make it a selling point with the remasters; an extra episode included 'free'. But hey, what do we know, aren't the business men lol.
>>499389510Because I don't think the continued Max and Chloe story was not going to work in game form. Where Max's powers and the personal drama really couldn't have been given the weight deserved. They did it right with the comics and would have done even better with published novels. Maybe even ones with [flip to page X] to see results of choices. Unlimited space to just weave a story with ups and downs. Many fic authors managed this, and sadly it was never capitalized on officially. If one wanted lovey-dovey Pricefield stuff then just pop them into the Sims and have fun.
>>499389042>If D9 announced this as a Bay only game there would be an even bigger shitfitNo there wouldnt be. Even the most fanatical Baefag understands both endings merit their own games. Baiting people with Chloe and then shitting on her in game is the most retarded they could have done. And they did it.You are probably right about SE forcing D9 for marketing reasons tho.
If we are to take the reddit leak as the semi-truth, the best case scenario if a direct sequel had to be made (dictated from above) would have been the original pitch from the writing team, that the dual universes were the Bae and Bay timelines, and players got to experience the fallout of both. That’s how you get your good Max and Chloe story.
>>499389510>A game about Chloe and Max getting married would have sold far, far better then DEI really don’t think this is true. This could maybe carry a mini-sode, not a whole life is strange game.
>>499390424Having to see both timelines is absolutely how this should have been played. The final choice of the first game determining only where you start and when thing start to go astray. Still telling a new story with these new characters, and still Max dealing with a lot of fallout from previous experiences. Chloe still around and supporting Max but not directly there.
>>499390424A story like that would have been good because it would have been something that ACTUALLY wanted to say a thing about the impact of the first game endings, rather than the cliffhanger bullshit we're going to get now
>>499390812>Prepare the tissues!For that one thing...or for, y'know, that other thing?
>>499390424At the sacrifice of btfoing new players (probably the reason this was rejected) yeah, I agree. The most realistic production that could have done full justice to LiS 1 would have looked like this.Unfortunately, this game isn’t made solely for fans of the original. They took a direction that can also stand alone.
>>499391112I am getting really tired of hearing that it's for new fans too. If that were they case then it doesn't matter that it's Max at all. Or that this isn't some THIRD timeline where players, new and returning, will meet her and then still see both Bae and Bay through flashes.
I want to comment on how scummy SE (D9?) are with pretending nothing is wrong. But maybe they think they cannot say anything to placate the fanbase because they perceive LiS fans as toxic? Or did SE learn from somewhere that responding does not matter? condescension? Pettiness? employees wanting the company's comeuppance (like ladyDevHeart)? What is going on?
>>499391231It’s made for both, and in so doing, doesn’t fully satisfy either.The blackpill is they probably made the right call economically, even if it made for a less satisfying story.
>>499390424>and players got to experience the fallout of both.>At the end of the game Max can travel back to ending choice of LiS>Can you do it again?
Wait. Why the FUCK wasn't this the timeline from Episode 3!? You still have Max. Still have the Dark Room and experiences at Blackwell. Still have Max mature past whatever she was going through as a teen because she had to reevaluate who she was after. Can either include or omit the storm and supporting characters alive or dead. And you still have a good outcome with a Chloe who cannot be in the story because she has already passed away. A kind of familiar but also new Max, one who will see the two other timelines she could have lived if her life went differently.
>>499391303Idk man maybe it's got something to do with how the game isn't even out yet? Why would they drop a statement over outrage for their game that's still a week away from releasing, which would just end up bringing even more negative press to the project?
>>499390812Sigh... I want to nuke France out of the map
>>499391874You asking for good writing, that's too much too ask
>>499390424>You can live with your original choiceOR>Merge both timelines so Chloe and Arcadia bay does survive, but sacrifice something big (For example: Max becomes a time angel that can only function in the spaces between seconds, effectively dead to the world but able to see all).
>>499391874I mean that’s a bit of a bitch move but sure that might have worked.
>>499391303The modern perception of developers is that being anything more than a mindless consoomer is ALWAYS toxic, because we know what we like and we know what we want. They want to release a game and just rake in money and praise, without actually having to cater to anyone, which is unrealistic in an ongoing series. Ironically they were doing it right(ish) with LiS2 and TC. It was the only real way forwards. Sadly, they clearly weren't successful enough for SE, so they tried to pull the nostalgia card with entirely the wrong fanbase and in entirely the wrong way.
>>499392383would play & buywhy didnt we get naked max in the timelines mall like the comic
>>499392132I think if certain people associated with the team weren't out there publicly saying>Sometimes relationships don't work and we have to move on Then there would be less backlash. If they let the game speak for itself instead of running prerelease damage control. Or shutting down criticism. The line "respect both choices" should never have been used because they had to have known how it would be taken.
>>499392694>>499392694>>499392694Post, Dykes!
>>499390576Agreed. It would work as a Wavelengths/Farewell episode. Slice of life with happiness and sadness in equal measure.
>>499392132Do you believe a corporate apology (lol) would be potent enough as to outweigh the current backlash? I guess I will go with "no point in responding", until my scatterbrain - if ever - will get better insight on this shit.
Bringing back Max seemed like an emergency button to revive the IP and make easy money, like a ff7 remake was at a time.Didn't work that well for ff7.
>>499384263Daniel
>>499392527Is it?>You get to play as a Max again, one you all know >One newcomers will get to know>One who may or may not have some dark secretsThe twist reveal when you're getting text messages from Joyce, then from William.
>>499393282I dunno. I think Rebirth was worth the absolute meltdown of half the fandom. That Cloud and Tifa kiss was fun times on /v/.
>>499388992>Save a loved one who canonically leaves you after a few years to go suck your bullies clit
