Free Shipping EditionPrevious thread: >>499343387>Version 1.03(1.04 if you're on console) is out!https://store.steampowered.com/news/app/2679460/view/4526772422651793108?l=english>Metaphor: ReFantazio peaks at 85k concurrent players on Steam!>Metaphor: ReFantazio surpasses 1m sales on launch day>Now available EVERYWHERE (but Nintendo Switch and Xbox One)>Metaphor: ReFantazio Special Soundtrackhttps://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_kT8go1ScWljmvHOjpzywgsnV1fI036Ovg>MetaphorFix (adds proper ultrawide, things, etc.)https://github.com/Lyall/MetaphorFix/releases>How many hours have you played?>What day are you on?>What are your favorite classes?>Favorite BGM?>Are you having fun?>"How should I build my MC?"Realistically anything works, you won't brick yourself even on Hard or Regicide. Common consensus is a hybrid STR/MAG/AGI is best.>"What is the best team comp?"Just about everything works, do whatever you like the most and it'll work on any difficulty.>"How should I manage my time?"There's more than enough time in the game to 100%, do whatever you'd like.PLEASE MARK SPOILERS
>Gains 4 press turns
Alright someone explain to me what I'm supposed to do against this boss. bro just nukes me on his first turn.
Eating weird things with Hulkenberg! I stomach it because she's my wife and I like seeing her happy!
Someone tell him to stop larping and remove the Louis pic....
strohl gaming
>>499441148remove your repel gear
>>499441148first atlus game?
>>499441052what's the best place to grind a bit in the endgame then?
>>499441148stop trying to cheese it with repel (element) equipment
>MC keeps hanging out with Maria because they're close in ageIt makes sense when you think about it.
>>499441148Take off your repel gear retard>>499441221WEW lad, are you the same anon who was testing elemental master max dmg?
>>499440883kek baby's first dekaja?
>>499441357no i just heard that strohl apparently sucks and I wanted to see if he's useful without grindinghe was, did that at level 70 on hard, so arguably quite underleveled
>>499440883Reset All is just buffs, not debuffs.
Do I have to finish the dragon's trials quests before defeating Louis?
>>499441903Well you can't do it after, if that's what you're asking.Yes, do it.
>>499441015>>499441148>>499441580Atlus-approved recipe for superbosses:>Soul Cry/Soul Scream for extra press turns>Built in Dekaja/Dekunda>Hidden rules that if broken 9999 almighty's you>Strongest elemental spells in the game>constant status effectsAm I missing something?
feel like I wasted these 70 hours, most of it was a slog and I still got 1 month left, I can't be bothered should have just read a book or watched a movie
>>499441903Depends. Skybound avatar isn't actually the final dungeon, so I would recommend doing that then doing the dragon towers.
>>499441330It would unironically please me if the game ever noted the fact that the MC only has the life experience and mental/emotional development of an eight year old. Imagining how the party would take that news activates my almonds.
>>499442017elegy of the soul was honestly easier than the dragons does it even qualify as a super boss
>>499442168This is why I imagine Will as completely oblivious to any and all romantic or sexual advances.
>>499441585Generally everyone is good at something, people metafagging over optimal comps have the wrong idea
>>499441319Different anon, I beat him second try but I guess this is what killed me the first now that I think about it. I thought it was some health threshold or the turn after Prince. I had to swap in Eupha for revive all for 3 dead party members and she was wearing repel ice shoes.
>>499442168That's not really how it works. He was cognized as an 18 year old so that's how he thinks
>>499442252I accidentally picked oblivious answers before I was even on that wavelength. I don't remember the context but one of Junah's dialogues gives you the option to mention the whole party and it seemed so benign but she responded "why would you bring up the others..."
>>499442463Yeah, but it's not as interesting that way.
>>499442463So has the Prince been conscious and locked in the curse? He's been in a coma for a decade or whatever so wouldn't he have the cognizance of a child?
>>499442017>look up The Approved Method™ online>beat it with zero effortProblem, Atlus?
>>499442080I see, thanks. Man, this game is looooong.
>>499442686>and*while
I saw Count Louis at an apothecary in Grand Trad yesterday. I told him how cool it was to meet him in person, but I didn’t want to be a paripus and bother him and ask him for handouts or anything.He said, “Oh, like you’re doing now?”I was taken aback, and all I could say was “Huh?” but he kept cutting me off and going “huh? huh? huh?” and closing his hand shut in front of my face. I walked away and continued with my shopping, and I heard him chuckle as I walked off. When I came to pay for my stuff up front I saw him trying to walk out the door with like fifteen magla pills in his hands without paying.The girl at the counter was very nice about it and professional, and was like “Sir, you need to pay for those first.” At first he kept pretending to be tired and not hear her, but eventually turned back around and brought them to the counter.When she took the pills and started to package them together, he stopped her and told her to wrap them each individually “to prevent any magical infetterence,” and then turned around and winked at me. I don’t even think that’s a word. After she scanned each bar and put them in a bag and started to say the price, he kept interrupting her by yawning really loudly.
so are all of the NPCs with black stuff around them that are catatonic about to turn into humans
>>499442976Melancholia
>>499442898this pasta is a lot less funny now that I know that Louis was one of the "gifts" at a Diddy party.
Good evening, /meta/I love Eupha
>>499443059>several nobles fucked louis's prime elda boypussyit's not fair.........
>>499441317last dungeon has those red crystals that summon enemies that respawn even if you destroy them
WHERE ARE EUPHA'S WEAPONSWHY ARE THERE SO FEWI'M DROWNING IN SHITTY SWORDS AND LANTERNS BUT THERE'S NO FUCKING EUPHA WEAPONSA AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH
Do you think Maria would be alright with (You) fucking Fabianne?
>>499443297She's an old whore
>>499443297I don't think she'd have much of an opinion on it until she's older.
>>499443297she'd be happy to have a new sister or brother but feel a little weird and not realize until later she's jealous of her foster mother
>>499443292You just made me realize I played the entire game without ever switching off her Inherited Crossier until the final dungeon where the game gives you all the archetype's ultimate weapons
>>499442686I think the idea is that Will materialized from the concept of the Prince's ideal self. He's like a construct made by the Prince (Will is his own being) rather than a body being puppeted by the Prince. Will is the Prince's OC come to life, not the actual Prince himself. A kid doesn't have to know how to live in Sonic the Hedgehog's shoes in order to have a Sonic OC.
>>499443667I mean, kinda. Will's form is absolutely the prince's donut steel, but Will doesn't have any real memories from his OC adventures. He is just the OC body with a blank slate memory and the prince's soul
>>499443248Who took more dicks, Louis or Del?
I don't even know if I want to waste leaves on Eupha or just keep using Strohl until I get Berserker
>>499443887strohl is endgame viable
>>499443860I heard Lord Louis would make soirees where only the worthy that could make him cum by raw sexual power alone would retain their roles or climb the ladder and those who didn't would be culled.And Zorba never joined those
>>499444034Sure, but the idea of 'brawler but not bad' seems pretty appealing. Strohl is actually my strongest party member by far as of the Dragon Temple. Samurai hits like a truck, and he's got Charge built in
This conversation is getting really gay.
Best boy: BasBest girl: Lady Joonah
>>499444138Do you think he had trouble keeping his horn-headband on when he was getting critically hit by like five STRChad nobles at once?
>>499444190Reminder that somehow all the people with fanatism towards Louis were all men and somehow women did not find him attractive in-universe
>>499444138Zorba had a hard life
>>499443887Junah needs a pretty cheap setup anyways, summoner line and then work on mage to get synth skills dmg+ passive. Mana regen from wizard is fine too. Then at endgame you just work on seeker for royal archetype.
Why is this woman trying to buy my bathwater
>>499443887>>499444705Sorry I meant Euphasia.
Watching the ending on youtube because I'm tired of playing this shit
>>499443853Yeah, but he manifested as an eighteen year old. He's functionally more like an eighteen year old with amnesia than an eight year old in the body of an eighteen year old. I don't think the "soul" is defined or limited by one's age or cognition.
>>499444467He uses magic to keep it on, just like the magic he uses to hold onto Drakodios when Eupha is trying to call it back. The headband was glowing when he pulled it off because he was dispelling his magic.
>>499445672This is why he deserves to be king, he truly thought of everything
>>499444528That isn't true. He has female supporters screeching for him a lot. All the people in this thread with gay fantasies are probably female too.
"Is fantasy limited to the confines of imagination? Would you call it a powerless creation... more than wishful thinking... more than fiction..." - the opening to Metaphor: ReFantazioAnn also says something I consider very sus early in the game about feeling like she's met Joker and the others before. And the delivery isn't the stereotypical thing people say like 'omg I feel like we just click so well!" but instead something that troubles Ann, an impression she can't shake. Like nostolgia for something that never happened.Prior to Metaphor, I thought there might be a cyclical time loop in Persona and that NG+ is actually part of the ludonarrative, but with the question Metaphor sets up about the nature of fantasy, my thoughts are changing.I've only played the Metaphor demo so far bc once I get my hands on the full game I know I'll never get any work done (P5R, and P3R just delete time I swear). I feel there could be overarching lore implications but what do you anons think?
>>499444153Bas does have amazing stats and does more damage than Strohl pound for poundbutStrohl has way more MP and speed and since he goes through the Commander line for his class, he's a great buffer if you need it and a perfect guy to use the broken Gambler accessory paired with Tycoon and the god tier Abacus weapon endgame. MC not so much because Prince is that good. He can clear random encounters with all his AoE from his classes and for dirt cheap too, and then he does great on bosses.No need to switch to Bas because he'll be online way earlier anyways.
>>499444467If someone was able to fuck him hard enough that his magic was starting to waver it'd be a high honor for whoever did that. Likely only Basilio's big paripus experiment enhanced dick was able to do that and because he's too stupid he probably wouldn't notice if his 'headband' was falling off
>>499446214I think you need to lay off the bath salts
>>499446214thinking too hard about timeloops is the reason all the snkfags killed themselves
What's the best way to beat that sanctor mf in the volcano?I'm getting filtered for the first time in this game.
do people really do that?give eupha or junah physical jobs despite them literally not meant to ever have any str increases?just because they like the character?
>>499446696i just brought a Knight and magic barrier to make him lose turns, have someone to heal if he does megidola and then just dps him
>>499446937hey could be worse, you could be making basilio a summoner or mage
So does Third Eye just give you a 50% chance of dodging or does it make the enemy have a 50% hit rate after it already hits you?
>>499447045berserker junah is about equally as bad as mage basilio desu
>>499446937I can do whatever the fuck I want. I have the willpower to make my dreams into reality you insipid little bitch.
>>499442168>spoilerNo wonder I loved this game's world so much. It's very in line with fontech and how the party is allowed to act on agency.I forgave Anise, used to hate her, but she was honestly just looking out for herself in a way only an actual small kid can.
>>499446214There's no sort of timeloops. But Metaphor probably is some sort of future persona timeline
>>499447163you have the "Will"?
so this game takes place in the long distant future after modern day humanity died out and that6's why there's the lost shinjuku place? and all of the 9 races are descended from humans?because in lost shinjuku it seems like those are the remnants of modern day earth but at the end More tells you that modern Tokyo is the "fiction" of this game
I definitely have to max tycoon for almighty boost on prince right? that seems like it's way too strong to ignore.
>>499447698ayup
>>499447163Based
>>499447025How do you even damage to him?
I remember someone saying a few threads ago that there's an accessory to double crit damage. Where is it?
>>499447181>spoiler Good on you, anon.
>>499447692The real world at the end isn't the real world, it's more's delusional wish to keep his son alive. But yeah, it's a post apocalyptical setting
>still scant art or fanfictionBros...
>>499448246complete gold rank in coliseum
Do you uhNot dodge anything on the back row?
>>499447698>tycoon is still timegated in ng+What's the point of ng+ then?
>>499448427is that place one battle per time slot or can you do the whole thing in one go?
>>499448379People are still digesting the game. There hasn’t even been enough time to think up of interesting what ifs
>>499448379It's still too soon to worry. Most people haven't finished it.
>>499447692How familiar are you with Drakengard?Think of the world thousands on thousands of years in the future. A lot like NieR. Humans discover magic, and it's a fast path to EVERYTHING going to shit. I liked finding a gun and Hulkamania thought it was to shoot arrows.
Joanna did nothing wrong
you guys are getting frisky. Keep those spoiler tags where I can see 'em, no funny moves. I don't want this getting ugly.
>>499448851I kind of wish they made her execution more pathetic. She claims a fog was lifting but I'd have liked for the game to go a bit darker and have her cry to really hammer home that Will isn't ready to face the role of leadership as he is at that point in the story.
>>499448427I've avoided this the entire game because the first fight I did took up an entire timeslot. Is it even reasonable to complete without sacrificing some other endgame content or social link ranks?
>democracy>the king was favoring his son and helping him the entire timeAt least that was realistic
>>499448659>>499449170its one rank per timeslot but you can do it during both day and eveningsthe game gives you a shitload of free time in the last arc i was able to get through all of it then and not miss anything
>>499449170You can do it at night. There's a lot of free nights in this game
>>499449278>the voices of the people matter>promotes his close friend group to be discord mods/positions of the highest authority recognizableAt least that was realistic
>>499449470They've proven their competence
>>499443426Does she get a better one before then? All my other party members have weapons in the 415-430 range and Eupha's best is 395. All those sites with lists but not locations of weapons say she has 4 that are the tokyo guardians (suzaku, etc) with a boost to an element.
so they're still doing public hangings after MC being crowned?
Is this based or cringe?
>>499449717Hangings, yes. Lynchings, no.
>>499449616It's in the skybound avatar. Eupha definitely got fucked by her low stat and her weapon choices.As if mage already isn't shitty enough.
>>499443078me too anon
I was tricked into thinking he'd be the last boss, that he'd swoop in and somehow steal Louis' power after we killed him
>>499449882Are you some kind of idiot?
>>499449037I sort of liked how she calmly faces her impending condemnation and execution, but the more I think about it the more I think she should have shown more horror and remorse for her actions. It could have been amazing if the game made her face any of her victims, like the mother who's sobbing in the streets of Martira during that act. I wish that Bardon's Bond link dealt directly with aftermath of Joanna's actions. It's like everyone in Martira just instantly moved on from learning that their State Religion-approved leader and members of their own police force were behind the kidnappings and brutal killing of their people. No one even rejects Bardon for being utterly unaware of what was happening right under his nose.
>>499445954The female supporters during cutscenes freaked me out. There were so many of them and they were fucking fanaticsBrawny carpenter: "I know he's an elda, but there's something to this kid"Pretty Florist: "AAAIIEEEEE!!! LOUIS-SAMA! KILL THEM ALL!!"
>>499449470>ruler employs people who have proven themselves loyal, empathetic, and capable, who genuinely want to work hard in the position they've been granted to make the world a better placeWhy is this a problem?
>>499446937Eupha has okay STR, about as much as Heismay and the summoner line has a few physical skills. Its not like putting magic on Basilio who has 8 Magic by end game.
holy fuck, NG+ is painful, just spending my days sleeping and waiting for bonds to open back upthey should've had some sort of "skip to deadline" thing
>>499450547did he give anyone else a chance to prove themselves capable for those roles?
>>499449717Yeah, but the difference is that anyone going to the gallows gets a proper trial and such now instead of just being dragged to the gallows. I honestly really like the ending because it shows that the group is making progress but complete and utter change doesn't happen fast
>>499447692almost spot onThe elda didn't evolve. They are still humans
>>499450621He doesn't need to. Job recruiters don't hold off on giving jobs to present and qualified candidates so that latecomers get a chance to apply. Are you retarded?
There's nothing wrong with public execution. It just has to be the very very very last resort.
>>499450257That's also a major part of it.The entire guard should have been under scrutiny as it wasn't just a single kid, but multiple over a considerable amount of time. Adults too- but what happened was an atrocity and Bardon should have had to deal with people who don't know him well vs his bros. They touch on his leadership skills in his social link, but after that I wouldn't want anyone under Lady Joanna's command in any position of power. His tavern friends should have been fighting for him while the vast majority would be rightfully afraid.
>You think yourself equal to a Eugief's fertility?>*PLAP PLAP PLAP*Heismay did this to Hulkenberg
why aren't the epilogue outfits available in NG+
>>499451136Saved for the dlc story
Metagaming: ReLoadSaveio
>>499448379>all the art is Hulkenburg and Gallica because they are at the beginning and in the demoIs Naoto the only one that overcame the last party member curse?
>>499449785Fuck I don't know how I missed that and now I can't return. I made a point to clear pretty much every item on every map through the game.
>>499451014Doesn't the game also make a point that Bardon used to have a wife and kid who left him because he was a workaholic? He's obsessed with his job, yet shit at it. His bond could have been about him trying to find a new place in Martira's society after his spectacular failure as the knight commander. It doesn't feel like his major shortcomings are ever properly addressed because the people of Martira end it with "we're sorry we didn't try to help you when you were being really retarded and scaring us with your militant behavior!"
>Eupha canon gets high on psychedelic fruit>60's fashion everywhereSo which member of your party is most likely to smoke grass.
>>499452162Way to miss the point retardHe only went into full panic militant mode BECAUSE the town was pushing so much onto him. He had to run the town, manage relations with other provinces, train the guards, lead the guards, fight off humans, and also rebuild the town by hand. He goes into full "I can fix it" mode and gets out of wack, tons of workaholics in real life act like this if you make them do too muchHis shortcomings are addressed - he can't do everything by himself and needs to rely on others, and he finally realizes it's okay for that to be the case by the end.
>>499452162It's funny, I knew an adult like him while I was still a child and his reliance on what someone young enough to be his kid has to say for something so serious checks out.But knowing that, it should have been pushed further. To which I don't think is too unreasonable because holy shit some of the other stories were horrible. Not in quality but in content. He really needed to be broken down and built up like Maria, Brigitta and Heismay.
>>499452313Hulkenberg would never unless you tricked her into itStrohl wouldn'tHiesmay wouldn'tJunah might when she feels she can get away with itEupha wouldn't unless it was part of a ceremonyBas would if it helped with the chronic pain, but if it did nothing for it, he wouldn't either.
Hey
>>499452313The Paripus are noted to be literal party animals so definitely Basilio, he's probably so retarded because he's perpetually tweaking off half an edible. You literally go to buy herb with him in his social linkalso pic related
>>499452847Ugly bitch.
>>499452847Retarded whore
>>499452986wrong
>>499452648A dude who panics like that isn't fit to lead. You can argue that the people "let" him spiral, but it's not their job to babysit him.
>>499452986>>499453091Junah is shit.
>>499452847What a qt
three eyed half breed children with homophobic eyes.....
>>499453176>Eupha is shit.Ftfy
>>499452881>herbs for chronic painYou know, I wonder if hemp is actually an active ingredient in it, as it's a real world use outside of DUDE WEED
>>499452648The villagers also say they were at fault because they were pushing everything onto him to fix instead of taking some initiative themselves.
It's fucked up how gallica was brainwashed into loving the prince and nobody said anything about it
>>499453339I'd believe it, hes the cooking guy. He probably makes herb brownies like a real homie.
>>499453493>specialty is sweetsYou just know.
>>499452648He went into panic mode because someone set fire to the government office.
>>499453485She wasnt brainwashed into loving the Prince you actual baboon, she was brainwashed into thinking that Will was a part of the resistance. Her goal was to rescue the prince no matter what
>>499453485She wasn't. She fell in love from everything after.
>>499453680>>499453681CLANGGALLICA PLEASE BE NICER TO ME
>>499452162speedreader
anyone have that fanart of gallica being held in the palm of a hand
>>499453132No government works when just one person is in charge. Even kings have council.>>499453429it really is the most basic easy to understand plotline in the world and retards still think Bardon is the next coming of Louis or something. I never thought the speedreader epidemic would be this prevelant
more's the king inniti can feel it in me bones
>>499452313You know Bas is down for catnip, but he saves it for appropriate times and places. >tfw you will never have a high Basilio all sweet on you trying to crawl onto your lap to be stroked and scratched
Strohl could have bought food for his people instead of shitty apartments.
>>499453945I'm telling you, it's these goddamn zoomers destroying EVERYTHING we've built. They can't even read a sentence, much less rebuild a kingdom!
>>499454085>You will never eat herb brownies with Bas and Strohl while watching the sights go by on the back deck of the gauntlet runnerGenuinely, unironically, why live?
>>499452847Doesn't look like her.
>>499454147he's literally me
>To make everyone happy, I will strip them of free will!Atlus this is the 17th week in a row you've shown us a surprise villain who wants to make world peace and happiness by stripping away free will.
>>499453339Is there a reason why people have vapes in Metaphor?
>>499454348Come back to me in 10 minutes
>>499454085>game just came out>no fan art>even the waifus hardly exist outside out of character HulkenbergThis sucks man.>>499454086I'd have liked to see the land he chose. The city is clean on the main roads but there's still putrid corpses laying on the sidewalk. Grand Trad probably smells like literal shite.
>>499454348It was just a ruse
>>499454391I dont think its a vape, theres still leaves in the pipe. Its more like an electric cigarette using the flame igniter as a lighter
>>499454391Vape pens don't usually have cannabis in them by default, but it was likely a way to include smoking because it's a JP title, someone will always be smoking.Did Neuras ever smoke? His art shows him with a pipe but I don't recall him ever using it in the runner.
>>499454414Bas starts off as just a weird stooge for the bad guy and doesn't become a truly lovable character until later in the game. Have patience.
>>499454147I vote him
>>499454147>Think this guy is gonna be a shitter until the end>Actually acknowledges your skill when you see him again after throttling him and wishes you the bestThis game keeps breaking the trope of character you think is gonna be an annoying douchebag and Im so happy about it. First Batlin, then Gideaux, then the rest of the candidates
>>499454673I wouldn't even call him a stooge. Fidelio looks literally 9 years old, but when you consider the way Louis presents himself, with Junah on his arm and this demonic looking dog man with an axe, there's a little bit of a threat. Even if he's in literal bellbottoms.Glodell, now he's a stooge. Shame, I didn't actually want to kill him when I found out he was sweet on Hector. But he was pure bottom rung, trash goon.
>>499454673I honestly thought the brothers would have been a little more popular but almost every fujo is focusing on Strohl exclusively and it's so boring
>>499455000>Strohl exclusively and it's so boringThat's why.He has Akihiko's features and chivalrous spirit. Kanji's sensitivity and consideration for the MC. Ryuujis's loyalty and instant friendship. He's perfect quite frankly, and that's why he's my least interesting.
Man they really make you wait a long ass time for Me Patra in this game huh
>>499454948>demonic looking dog manHe's a cat with silly fluffy hair.
>>499455000Give it some time, people in Japan actually have lives and its not on switch so its gonna take the nips like a month to catch up. When Basilio starts joining them well see a paripus sweep, trust
>>499455000Strohl is the first boy and he says a bunch of gay shit to Will, so it's not surprising that he's the only one being focused on by fags who haven't finished the game. I assure you that the brothers will be popular when more JP fujos have actually gotten to Basilio's recruitment.
>teehee I froze your whole team every turnThe boss designs have really fallen off since the early game, feels like each and every one now just has a single gimmick that you gotta jump in, lose to, jump out, swap your team, then swamp the boss easy with its counters. So boring.
>>499455409I love his stupid hair. Could catch him in a crowd at woodstock.
>>499455781Get good faggot.
>>499455845>le get good!!!!This isn't going to be difficult when I jump out get a bunch of ice counters you stupid retard. It's gonna be yet another fucking cutscene fight because this game isn't even trying anymore. I'm fucking bored.
>>499455943Then fuck off back to Persona.
Finished bad weather Death Cultist Murder Cave while 5-7 levels under, Tycoon truly is the best healer/flat damage dealer/MP sustainer/buffer/physical damage (until Destroyer comes online)/soul-iest archetype. Was the “weapon” supposed to feel that bad to fight tho? Losing my extra turns obviously sucks but I basically gave up trying to debuff it because the little shit would just +3 Atk/Def every goddamned turn meaning my rotation was dekaja -> Berserker charge/synthesis -> spirit dust, maybe sneak a Vigor Formation in if I’m at max HP and expect it to Hyper. Again, it felt way less interactive than the cult leader and even that guy was just soul cry into charge -> attack with summons every few turns
>>499456016Did persona have any forced meant to lose fights or just fights you had no way of seeing coming?I remember Moonlight Gown due to trauma and realized I was terribly underprepared.
>>499455781Why are you still getting hit by magic with hulkenberg around
>>499456171why are using Hulkenberg
>>499456171Unfortunately I didn't expect the ice spam because there was no expectation of a boss when I came here.
>>499456124P3 has some stupidly strong bosses in tartarus, but every full moon boss is piss easy because they have to accomodate for people who aren't climbing tartatus. Probably why P4 has traditional dungeons.
what's the point of igniters? seems like a waste of an accessory slotmaybe situationally if you need to hit a certain weakness but I can't justify their price for that
>>499455943>thinking you need to get ice countersHow about you just git gud holy shit
>william fantasy
>>499456703non-optimal party building. They really feel like "just for fun" as Mage Devotion is worse than party wide healing via Cleric or items you get without trying.
>>499456712>bro just get hit with the ice status every turnMaybe if I had access to the game's version of Me Patra I'd consider it but I don't, and there's nowhere for me to go grind where I am in the game, so I can't really do this any other way.
>>499456703They are decent early game when you want to cover weaknesses and don't have many skill slots, but past that, not really worth. And even then, you can get by with just the free ones you find instead of buying any.
>>499456973You should really put more effort into using your head.
>>499456973Maybe try reading skill descriptions of other skills that are available to you.
>>499457105>>499457121Alluding to knowledge unknown does nothing to teach the unknowing. Stop vagueposting or shut the fuck up.
>>499456230why are you not? She's only bad if you're on easy or normal. You're not on NORMAL, are you?
>>499457218You could try Junah's weakness skills and force the boss to be weak to whatever you have the best set up for.
>>499457218You can lead a camel to water but you cannot make them drink.Used to think that meant the camel was obstinate and that you couldn't force another to do something. Turns out it just meant the camel is a fucking retard that can't see what's in front of it.
>using Junah
>>499457362I did that and then Quartz Wall stopped that strategy from working altogether. You can't create a weakness with Quartz Wall up.
>>499456703The story also made a point that igniters are shit compared to your archtype powers. Seems like they're only usable for narrative purpose.
>>499457421>>499457429I legitimately do not remember how I beat this boss, just that I was out of mp by the end and Junah was in my party.
>>499457421Literally in every team, Eupha nigger.
>>499457362Whores do not belong in my party.
>>499456396>no expectation of a bossAnon I really want to give you benefit of the doubt and support your struggle/annoyance since the community only loses if people blindly defend the game. However, at what point did you think the game forcing you to visit a specific location, after an important NPC demands you meet them at that location to face them and learn the truth, wouldn’t result in some sort of encounter be it a dungeon or boss fight?I may be misremembering but on the ride there everyone is basically saying you should be prepared to kill. I can understand if you went in exclusively with skills that get countered, but at this point in the game you have many different tools to either force the team comps you want (weakness inducing skills, resistance pierce, dispells, etc) and you have plenty of party members to act as coverage/backup functions. Having to exit and retry isn’t because the game expects you to full counter the boss after getting your ass beat once, it’s because you made the simple mistake of not preparing your party
>>499457369>More vaguepostingDon't care.
>>499457579She's actually pure
why yes, I still use strohl, hulkenberg and heismay despite having junah and eupha unlocked
>>499457668considering that Heismay is shit until his ultimate class and then he's on par with Hulk who is good for much earlier, that's fine.Good on you!
>>499456703though the rank 7 brigitta igniters are pretty goodcost/performance ratio is totally wack however, even with 40% off.
>>499457589>weakness inducing skillsAnon I truly appreciate the legitimate attempt to help alleviate my frustrations but you are actually misremembering because this boss specifically counters creating weaknesses to elements with its unique spell Quartz Wall, which prevents you from doing exactly that. My setup loses because of this never-before-seen, unique spell, so my only choice is to leave and come back with a different strategy.
>>499457589Not him but I expected a mini dungeon like in the second chapter. But yeah it's not so hard to just reload the save, every cutscene is skippable.
>>499457863Suck my cock.
>People actually leave and come back with different strats instead of just adapting to the situation and overcoming it with witFucking pathetic
>>499457774Someone needs to be a support. Everyone else is spec'd for damage.
>people use characters because 'they are new' and not because they are cool or fit on their teamlol!
>Brigitta sugar mommyingoh fuck yeah
>>499457838>cost/performance ratioThat was the biggest issue and it feels like narrative choice over practical.They're luxury products and the people who own them are all nobility. The dingy igniter you get at the start is a militant expense. But I think it's to put perspective in the magic people are capable of, but likely lack the mp or skill to effectively use it and are no better than wearing Hermes but your $6000 handbag lets you cast skills.
>>499458046>build team to create and then exploit specific weaknesses>boss has a spell that doesn't let you create or exploit weaknessesThere's actually only one way to adapt to this: Come back with a team that doesn't get hard-countered by the boss.
I'm surprised that dub Maria actually sounds pretty cute even though she does sound a tad bit older.
>>499458338pedophile
>>499457579You cannot remove the main character from the party.
>>499457579That's why I didnt use nor talk to this ugly wretch lol
>>499458440we don't sign our posts here, newfag
>tfw you can't spend a week in game time with only HeismayWhat a terrible story. Terrible as in- incredibly discomforting to sit through if you have bare bones empathy
>>499458338She does sound cute. Normally I find brit kids to be annoying and they're shit at voice work, but she does a pretty good job. I have no idea how old the VA is though.
>>499458216Crazy how megidolaon is like 600k and it costs 60MP to cast. Even royal slash is only 38.
>>499458573>>499458687you're fucking gross
>>499458819meds time, dumbfuck
>>499458819>>499458440I think you're on the wrong site
>The teeth you found at the dungeons gives you knowledge and tutorial because they are wisdom teeth
>MC is 18>could probably marry Maria after she turned 18 while still being available to freely take a wife.
>>499457863Ignore the other reply, some other anon. I was also walled (no pun intended) by that move as I hadn’t brought my commander or any other archetypes capable of removing it the normal way, until I realized I could just bite the bullet and hit the block, forfeit two of my turns, and spend the remaining two turns getting some damage in via weak hits before healing or de/buffing. Part of the boss’ AI forces its helper to use that wall move whenever it’s not active, so you can actually abuse this behavior while staying on the defensive to weather its attacks and slowly get yourself in a position to nuke it during the small windows you get. Funny part is, once you reach phase 2, the fight becomes much easier since it’s just the dragon without any of the wall shit
shouldn't the retardera tourist be back on xer site screaming and shitting and pissing xerself over Heismay being rassist or something?
>>499459196funniest shit in the world. They were talking about how hekkin' great and wholesome bat dad was and then they all flipped out over these lines
>>499459117The AI in this game is too focused on debuff/buff to be threatening. Maybe it's designed for 4+ turns so every boss with less than that is hilariously stupid.Like that mustari human boss who only ever used dekaja and dekunda for its entire two turns.
I'm surprised that Maria's rank 8 didn't end with a "I want to marry you when I grow up".
>>499459493The mc is a groomer like makoto
>>499459493pedos get the rope
>>499459678*isnt
>junah and basilio slobbering over that water at soon as they get on virga island>"YOU TAINTED THE PRIESTESS' CLEANSING POOL"
why does nobody war for hulkenberg like they do between junah and eupha? is she for sophisticated posters?
>>499459889I am not IrishI may not be an assman, but there is literally NOTHING there
>>499459831
Is there a relatively easy way to farm AEXP in the endgame? I'm getting choked on it so hard and it's difficult to make any progress towards builds I want.
I cant be the only one doing the hot spring over and over hoping one of the females will join up, right?
>>499460221Once you have access to the dragon tower, go there during bad weather and farm the red crystals.Alternatively, wait until the very last room against the final boss.
>>499460232lmao anon
>>499460221set it to easy just to grind nobody will ever know
>>499459375I think they went for an emphasis on narrative boss design during the later half of the game, with the prayer human shifting affinities and playing defense to represent the islanders defensively shifting blame/their agency in the disasters from themselves to the priestess line, doing anything but examining their beliefs. Then there’s Louis’ keikaku man fight(s) where he’s merely pretending to be a shitter in order to bait the party into furthering his goals but they’re a bit too easy which gives the impression that the devs didn’t know how they should design once players have a large number of archetype options and subsequent team compositions to choose, so they defaulted on making things less interactive to lower the number of complaints that the game hated a specific party type
>>499460790>>499460221if you're doing thatwhy grind at allit's a single player game, why waste your own time doing boring monotonous shit
So Skybound Avatar is the second to last main dungeon right?
>>499460442Is there a THE dragon tower that I get later or do you just mean any of the three?
>>499460029and? the majority of women in these games have flat 3d models, but those are off-model all the time and your imagination is a powerful thing
yea
>>499460887kill yourself
>>499461079?
>>499460947yes
Fabienne is single bros ;)
Fidelio running around with mystery. inc is going to give him a brain aneurysm
>>499460221Find any dungeon that has the blood coin mimics, I recommend the one all the way north of Grand Trad tho I believe the tower of blind faith south of Virga has one too. Go there, find the mimic (must be on field, not a trap mimic) and whack it with Thief or Merchant. You should get a Jeweled Root or lesser AEXP item. Continue this until you run out of mimics or they no longer give the item, reset at More’s study, repeat. Later the best way is to one-hit blue enemies while everyone is on mastered archetypes letting you funnel 7x the normal AEXP into a single member
Why does JP voice calls Louis as Louie?
>>499442017Of the other Atlus games I've fought the superbosses in>EOIII, Abyssal GodBoss attack algorithm becomes more random and unhinged as the fight goes on>EOV, Star DevourerBoss summons adds that are weak on their own but can spiral out of control together
>>499461709Because the S in Louis is silent, dunno why it's not in the dub. Probably because it sounds less threatening.
Louie would sound fucking retardedglad i didnt play in japanese
>>499462038Dubfaggots don't belong here.
>>499461921The French are inherently less threatening.
>>499462038Are you stupid enough to believe everything you read? Jp is the way the game was meant to be played.
>>499462215>Jp is the way the game was meant to be played.if louis' name is supposed to be pronounced in such a faggy way i'm glad i didnt hear it as it was "meant to be"
>>499462498how do you pronounce louisville
she was a clemar the whole time bros...
hmmmm I don't know how I feel about the (post 9/X spoiler) MC being a manifestation of the Prince's will like it's one of those things that you could definitely predict but is not really satisfying as a plot point
>>499462738I was actually there just a couple weeks ago and I heard it pronounced both ways.
>one last hit needed to kill boss>fully-buffed and charged Basilio just fucking misses >boss crits twice and OHKOs team afterwardsI'm taking this fucking cat out of my team holy fuck
>>499462738Bad example, the correct way is the french pronunciation but literally everyone says louis ville with the hard s or lowvll if you're from the area.
>>499462764It's a very Japanese writer story thing
>Get to Eupha's final day bond eventWhy and I suddenly more scared of sharks than dragons?
>>499462764I found it pretty satisfying. You're right that it's kind of predictable though. I kinda knew it was coming but I was interested in how they explained everything mechanically.
>>499461836EO super bosses have fun design as experiences but so many of them revolve around progressing the fight until the next knowledge check, making it feel like FFXIV raid Simon-Says. I hope in whatever project we get next in the Metaphor universe or from Studio Zero, they strike a better balance between MegaTen’s damage check philosophy and EO’s rule check philosophy, though I wouldn’t be opposed to a DDS Demi-Fiend style post-game fight in Meta2our against Queen Errant Gallica, and Her Trials Born of the World’s First Magic (Roided boss rush of the story bosses in the first game, with arranged music playing for each phase a la Dancing Mad)
>>499462764I like it. Twists like that are exactly why I enjoy JRPGs
Hulkenberg sitting on my face
>>499463310Counterpoint:>The MC of the next game and his friends also undergo the Elegy of the Soul trial>Before they can fight it, Will's soul walks in from off screen and dusts it with just a punch>Peril: Hero King Hythlodaeus the 6th, Wielder of the Ultimate Archetype
>>499463618so true
>>499462764I liked it, I like whatever this trope is called. I also came to like Hulkenberg more after the reveal than before.
>>499463130Persona itself has had that very twist. It's why I think it's pretty clear this game does take place in the far future of the persona world, because the plot by the end just starts embracing all the persona landmarks, like cognition, the psyche, the collective unconscious and all that
Does dread clear up after the dungeon or is it there forever? Kinda sucks if you lose your bonus press turns until the end.
>>499464126Dread doesn't actually mean anything, it's blight which is a problem
>>499464183Hmm I see, fought some nigga on the gauntlet runner and weaknesses did fuck all. I guess there was blight on the way or something.
>>499462738like you have a mouth full of chocolate, i was there and most pronounced it that way
>>499464031And all of that started with humans fucking around with Makai also known as the expanse. I believe metaphor takes place in the persona universe when they had their own smt moment when cognitive science got out of control.
seeker and magic seeker were so shit but soul hacker is fucking broken, especially if you specced out in strength christ almightyI thought spamming that charm samurai skill was braindead but this physical almighty skill is even more so
>>499464624Yeah. It's funny how persona forgot that it existed in the same timeline as devil summoner, but Metaphor remembers that. The memorandum for Magla mentions that the old world used to use MAG as a measurement as well but they had a different name for Magla, making reference to Magnetite.
>>499464801It's more likely that Metaphor exists as a Turn-A Gundam sort of thing, a timeline at the end of all Persona/Megaten/EO timelines and combines all of them
The archetype system feels so restrictive. If I run into an issue with a specific demon on my team or Persona I can always swap them out from my larger reservoir to a different one. It feels like there should be a way to swap archetypes (whether it takes a full press turn or half of one) but there just isn't. It's like I'm playing an SMT/Persona game with handcuffs on.
>>499465017You should have your party set up so you can swap members to accomplish this.
>>499465017>little baby needs to actually plan instead of having every single option available all the time with no punishment for poor planning or reward for proper foresightKWAB, KEKYPOW!
>>499464943The persona timeline is already kind of that. Like Raidou, Devil Summoner, SMT If..., Soul Hackers and so on, all exist in the same timeline. So that alone covers things like the Soul Hacker, Devil Summoner and Persona Master archetypes, as well things like MAG existing.
>>499465185Literally this. I had two "tanks", two melee dps, and two mages/buffbots. It's really not hard.
>>499465259>proper foresightAnon stop looking up bosses before you fight them
>>499465289I think it's more than that though, a lot of the terminology involved seems intentionally designed to bring together every timeline. Things like MAG being anxiety and corrupting things with Melancholia explains how the Yggdrasil Cores overload and become evil.>>499465372It's called buying from the info seller you fucking retard
>>499465440Not every boss has a broker anon
>>499465440Buy a hooker instead you faggot
>>499465289Speaking of Devil summoner, I recall one of the endings in that series that leads into one of the other series like SMT, if/persona,etc. Now that metaphor is a thing, his efforts to dodge a smt-like timeline if the player was going for that ending kind of ended up being pointless because humans got fucked anyway.
>>499465017Royal version in 2 years will have archetype swap in middle of battle
>>499465750The point of Raidou is that the future is not set in stone. Metaphor is just one possible future
>>499465803Can't wait for the obligatory re-release girl who is extremely important to the plot.I suppose she'll be a Rhoag cuz that's the only tribe we don't have as a permanent fixture (Ishkia too if you exclude Neuras cuz he doesn't fight).
>>499465185>>499465314Investing in every single character is not feasible with how the game drip-feeds archetype XP and MAG
>>499462764I think my only problem with it is that they tried to have their cake and eat it too. They killed the prince, made you go through like... one minute of depression, and then did the reveal right after. Ok I guess...
>>499465974Clearly it's feasible because I did it you retard
>>499462742wtf they white washed Brigitta
>>499465974Brother you literally accomplish this by building out characters to use their royal archetypes.
>>499465974Yes it is. MAG only becomes an issue when you're trying to autistically 100% every archetype on every character. It's not a problem just getting the royal archetypes on every character. And exp isn't divided, meaning that getting extra party members means you're straight just getting more a-exp, having 7 party members means you're getting 7x a-exp.
>>499465017Persona just has too much freedom. Fully customizable 8 skill slot and you can bring up to 12 personas. You can make 12 specialized builds and swapping them doesn't even cost a turn.Add technical damage and baton pass on top of it and it's barely a game at that point.
>>499461921>>499462038It sounds more threatening if you know an ounce of world history and associate it with King Louis XIV
>>499465974m8 you can get like 14 aexp items in a single fight before you're even in the last month of the game
>>499462764It would've hit more if they had more than 3 lines of dialogue. Something like that requires a hefty flashback after every major sequence to setup the gut punch
>>499465936I understand that. My point is is that is that humanity in general is just fucked. Its just a matter of when and how they get there. The only difference this time is that there were enough survivors to have some sort of society again and the world didn't get completely destroyed.
>>499466609Well yeah. I always thought that was a messed up part of the persona universe, in persona alone there's been like 10+ apocalyptic threats in the span of years, the world actually did end once. The laws of the universe lean towards humanity destroying themselves. SMT, persona and metaphor are all consistent in that regard.
My friend and I was looking at the promo pics of this game before launch and he already predicted the mc is the prince just by how he's sitting fabulously
>everyone can have different faiths, such a perfect world!kek
>>499465973It'll be maria from the futureI can feel it in my bones
>>499467053>Both Rhoag and Ishkia at the same time..How could I not see..
>>499449717It's mentioned in the ending that Eupha is the head magistrate and she does the hearings for all of the suspects who may be executed. Every criminal in Euchronia has to plead their case before this woman.
>>499464031NTA but ehhh I feel that’s a stretchwhile archetypes are basically just evolved personas the way they’re treated narratively does something that the Persona games had been suffering from for a long time. ANYONE could awaken to Archetypes, see the Mage Academy related NPCs, but after centuries of Sanctism intentionally covering it up and developing igniters to prevent people from turning human even the scholars didn’t know how to. Will’s essence being pure magla (pure imagination, fantasy itself) meant he was a goddamn keg of explosives letting him effortlessly catch the spark of heroism needed to gain an archetype, the other party members awakening their archetypes occurs from catching his flame. Comparatively, Persona has personas (or the potential to awaken them) given out like chess pieces in the struggle between two objective forces, Philemon/Velvet Room representing human freedom vs symbolic deities representing higher control of life/servitude. The point being, Persona has its wielders acting in (unbeknownst) service to the Velvet forces first and themselves second, whereas Archetypes are about embracing that which you cannot change to make manifest that which you can (achieving your fantasies), making Metaphor feel more applicable to the players since the main devices are metaphors (lol) while Persona is more indulgent as you’re inserting into a special chosen guy’s story that has themes about society. I also concur with what other anons are saying, the timeline of Metaphor relative to other Atlus series is something closer to Turn-A as melancholia and magla explains the phenomena present in all of them (let’s even take it further: Catherine’s man killing dreams are literally caused by collective anxieties regarding morals and faith to one’s SO, Trauma Center’s healing touch can be explained by each doctor’s fantasy of saving lives born from their own experiences)
>>499467379Do you think magla vision is like a heartbeat sensor and you can tell when someones lying?
>>499467673Please learn to write more succinctly holy fuck kid
thread themehttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0uGoRTbcJp0
>military general and royal guard captain are still clemar and roussianteHmmmmmmmmmmmm what did atlus mean by this
>wall of black texts
>>499467929>I will never experience the father and son ludokino reveal ever again for the first timewhy live
>>499467379would eupha really ever sentence someone to be hanged
>>499467673I didn't say archetypes are personas just like I wouldn't say that persona-users are the same as devil summoners. But the fact that archetypes like persona master exist means persona-users do exist in the history of this world. Thematic similarities are just that, but hard references are another
>>499468067It's all flat boring trite this game has a dumpster fire plot
Do you think Eupha is addicted to peyote?
>>499468080Does this look like the face of mercy?Also, doesn't she canonically murder that Church guy who goes mad in her follower events?
>>499468080If he raped children and mutilate babies, probably
>>499468162I did not ask you barry
>>499468034And the Army Commander is a Eugief and the local Police captain is a Paripus. What do YOU mean by this?
Is this the type of woman you'd want to introduce to your parents?
>>499468067It's great, but it means it's a fake democracy if you're literally helping your son win with magic
>>499468217I mean one, you as a party collectively kill that church guy, two, its a mercy kill at that point
Prince idea self is a manlet with blue hair and heterochromiaCan someone explain to me what is his thought process here?
>>499468387My parents are racist.
>>499468253?
>>499468387>Financially successful>Professional>Soft spot for animalsMy family's only worry would be that I was getting groomed by a rhoag woman who could be decades older than me.
>>499468387I like how she's just your typical crazy dog lady. She's fine after her final episode though
come forth, perso-! I mean, metaphor!
>>499468496You never made a lame looking OC as a 6 year old?
>>499468496Having been on the internet for some amount of time I would think you know about the kinds of retarded OC characters that children come up with and post about. It's really not that out there.
>>499468537Your parents are retarded.
>>499467673Pretty sure wielding and Archetype and a Persona basically has the exact same requirements. You might be thinking of P3 with that talk about potential but that's something everyone has.
Can I buy Metaphor merch yet? Preferably from an NA retailer to reduce shipping costs?
so that scottish guy just dies an embarrassing death for no reason?
>>499468890pretty sure the only "merch" so far is either stuff they gave out at cons or the stuff that came with the big fuckoff expensive version.
>>499468387>Your son call me mommy too
>>499467814I shan’t. The only time I feel the need to write professionally is when I falseflag, allowing others to bump the thread for me while I jerk off to my unglamoured Junah Lora collection. Take your (you), and I do hope you enjoy the remainder of tonight’s party.
>>499468387but she's a n...
>>499468890It all went to the Z list e celebs that are also friends with Atlus West employees
>>499468974Damn, guess I'll have to wait, then. Hopefully Metaphor does comparably to P5 so it gets a decent spread of stuff to buy. I loved this game and I really want to get something physical to commemorate it.
If fairies are beings of pure magic do they even have a vagina? Can Gallica pee?
>>499469374Something I've been thinking about is trying to datamine one of Neuras' paintings and then getting it framed. I'm just too retarded to find them in the files.
>>499469676well she eats meals with the rest of the party
>>499469770no she doesn't retard
>>499469147
>>499469676No. Every time Will shits or showers on the runner he’s merely pretending to do it while the Prince uncontrollably soils his altar. The Eldan chieftess told Zorba where he was so she wouldn’t have to clean him anymore
She's so tall.
>>499470228shit virtues
>>499470228More like Will is short.
>>499470228world's longest neck award
>>499470228>>499470518Imagine
>>499470557No that's just on model. Soejima characters always have fuckhuge necks.
Beta Will really was just Makoto.
>>499470740I like him a lot more without the heterochromia
>>499470740looks nothing like her
>>499470740He looks so wrong when he's not gypsy colored
>>499469676Of course she can. What do you think Will drank when they were traveling through the desert?
>>499470882Look like even more of a twink to me.
>>499470228kek elonquetlet
>>499468537Get them to play Metaphor.
>>499471149I did they said people don't talk like this, game sucked and returned it
I fucked up, while cleaning my storage I accidentally deleted all 14 hours of my save state of Metaphor
>>499471345Literally how the fuck do you even do this. You have to pull a maneuver so retarded for this to happen you probably deserve it.
>>499471345Deserved for being a shonen shitter.
>>499471345I can't even fathom how you managed this.
>>499471345This is like accidentally removing a system file on Windows
wait...
>>499471664Junpei looks like that?
>>499471664the schizo has permanently triggered me whenever I see this character
Who would you kiss first
>>499471978v-kun
>>499471978kill marry fuck
FeMCLouisBardonLinaAlonzoEdeniCatherinaMetaphor: ReFantazioR party member
>>499471345What's the point of using steam if you're not using its cloud save
>>499472490whwn did he say he was playing on pc
Will is, in fact, a slut.
Will Eupha's brother ever unlock the ability to change the weather for more than 3 days?
>>499472674How many days can you change it for faggot?
>>499472609How did you even remove your save data accidentally on playstation?It's only plausible to clean up your junk in windows appdata
>>499471345That means you can experience the first 14 hours of the game again, anon!
>>499472764It's right there in the post? When he first offers to do it he does it for 3 days but a full trip to the Spire of Blind Faith is more days than that.
>>499470740>Was initially supposed to be whiteAnd they say this shit isnt woke
>>499473117It is exactly three days, don't stop to do the cave dungeon
>>499473117just go there in bad weather retard, it's good for you
whys there so many black people yet nobody says anything about their skin color just their tribe or whatever
>High chanceWhy do devs just straight-up lie to their players
>>499474292high base chance, not counting an enemy's individual chance to resist it. have you played a jrpg before?
>>499473117No I'm asking YOU how many days you can change it for. If you're gonna shit on another man's weather manipulation you better have the skills to back it up.
>hoard bath salts for the whole game>surely I'll have all the free bathing time in the world at the end game>can only bathe while camping outsideTruly fucking outplayed. What do now, spend my remaining 8 days by camping outside a random dungeon, and just waste day slots by doing that? At least I'll smell nice for the big fight.
>>499473427>>499473945stop bringing race into the fantasy world. There's enough racism as it is.
>>499473945the tribes are based off different parts/emotions in the human brain
>>499462038"Louie" as in "the Sun King" you fucking retard"Luis" make him sound like he's going to make me tacos for lunch
>>499474407There's no ailment resistance stat in the game though, enemies can either get hit by ailments or they're immune. If there IS a hidden ailment resistance stat, then that's still a lie by omission.
I did not care for the latter half of the game
>>499474869It's ALWAYS been hidden in ALL of these games you dumb black retard newfag
>>499474927>I did not like the better part of the gamelot of retards in the world, you're not the only one I'm sure
Any list of items for filling up the archtype study? I couldn't find it.I got my first reward RIGHT before the very final fight, makes it even more kino.
Why do they act like teleportation is unique to the gauntlet runner when we see multiple people teleport throughout the game?
who is this schizo that reply to anyone criticizing the gameIs he okay
>>499475596First off, it's not long distances, the people who teleport can only do so sets of distance at a time.Second, because we're not just teleporting ourselves, we're teleporting the WHOLE gauntlet runner. Other teleporters only teleport themself.
>>499474948That's not true in the slightest. In SMT and Persona the insta-kills are either light or dark, and you can always see an enemy's resistance to light and dark.
Does Junah count as an ally of the type of mask she's wearing, or just as a 'dancer'?
>>499476061Dancer, the mask is just a skillset
what do each of the masks do
>>499476151Fug, I want to use Strohl's cheap as fuck AoE charm nuke as Samurai, but MC is doing great as a thief and I don't really want to change him to a brawler or warrior, nor Hulk off of Dark Knight.It's too hard to part with muh free items from Assassin.
>>499476287I would just do Hulk to Brawler and you could swap back on a boss if needed but you probably won't as long as you give her taunt and Tetrakarn still
>Attack in any number. Wield any weapons. But... fight with your very lives! If you live by a creed, show me its strength!How do you respond without sounding mad?
>>499476871I beat him
where's the micro bikini shehulk mod
>>499476871
>>499476871>dynast formation>vijthayarda>masquerade charge>royal sword
Is it worth fighting the "FOE" enemies in the temple dungeon?
Some of these hero passives are just worthless. It's pretty wild how unbalanced these are.
>>499477581this is literally one of the best ones in the game you mongolian throat singing tard
>>499477581Thats legit great.
Dungeon order is kinda whack. I'm doing the snake burial grounds after the trial grounds and the bounty ogre guy and every enemy's green. Gotta guess what order the devs thought you'd take.
>>499477672>>499477721You are smoking crack. Stunning enemies in the overworld is easy as shit.
>>499477732>finger twiddling retard cant count how many diamond icons each sidequest has
>>499477504No, they don't have good drops and don't give good EXP
>>499476608their jobs have 4 slots, brawler has 2 atm so not worth it
>>499477504Nah, fighting the ears is a trap. shit exp, no drops. Avoid 'em like they tell you.
>>499477771Self reporting easy mode is embarassing. On any difficulty not called Storyteller or Easy playing footsies with a big enemy is a one way ticket to getting fried.
>>499477504remember the ancient words about FOE...
>>499478025NO FUCK YOU OKAY I ONE SHOT EVEN THE GUYS THAT TAKE LIKE 7 HITS ON HARD BECAUSE UH...UH... I JUST DO OKAY
>>499478025>Lock on>Spam the attack button>Exclamation point shows up>Press the dodge roll button that gives you multiple seconds of i-frames>Keep attackingI can't believe you'd ever admit to this being difficult. I think you need to play more video games, anon.
>>499478202Literally admitting to not even making it to the first optional dungeon. Some enemies attack repeatedly, some gapclose, some have delays. That shit won't work past cathedral.
>>499478329Even past the first dungeon the attacks are telegraphed as hell and the roll has a million iframes, so I don't know what to tell you bud
>>499478202>enemy started his animation earlier because you hit them slightly to the side>cant cancel>get ambushed
I don't think it's mandatory or needed, but yeah, I think not thinking support attacks are good means you're on easy. Anyone on hard would think so just from playing the game for a few hours
>>499478553or someone who's barely into the game, if they haven't seen that Prince's support attacks heal HP/MP
What's the best way to make a debuff bot? Just learn faker?
>>499478329I'm in September right now on hard clearing out Eupha's trial dungeon and I've never encountered an enemy that's given me a problem that couldn't be solved by just spamming dodge roll. Play more video games. >>499478506Even if you are the most dogshit old dementia-addled player in the world and manage to get yourself in a situation where you're about to get hit, squad combat initiation is frame 1 and can be done no matter what's happening on screen.
why can't metaphor have art like this
>>499474948>3DS Etrian gamesCome on anon. If you apologize or just say “I didn’t know” we can laugh and move on, before you get too mad
What's better for Hulk (since these are 14k and 25k MAG investments), 15% chance to reflect phys or cannot be critThey both sound amazing but I have room (and MAG) for one
Why did atlus halfass the skill names in this game? seeing different names for offensive stuff was cool, but the support skills are still the bogstandard stuff weve had for decades
>>499478887>Yucklan>Beidon’t>Shenhe/himI bet you frowned when you found out Metaphor doesn’t have Persona’s romance, disgusting Liyue poster
>>499479183>he doesn't know
>>499479183because baaaatcheeest dont you remember rakukaja and heat riser?
He's so fucking cute.
>>499478980reflect ends the turn outright and is therefore better than stopping an arbitrary and extremely rare chance of an enemy critting>>499479426hes such a good inclusion, "stricken with more than enough suffering to make anyone else commit suicide but is too dumb to not still be an optimist" is a kino trope
>>499479542that's what I ended up going with. I originally didn't plan on sticking with Hulk and Strohl so I left them kind of bare bones, now I did a little grinding to fill them out. I farmed a total of 198 hero leaves and buffed them up, only took maybe 30-35 minutes.
>>499478764>squad combat initiation is frame 1 and can be done no matter what's happening on screen.I dont know what makes you think I havent been doing that. The field attack gameplay controls like those low budget ps2 brawler you see on the kusoge list.
Who's the better magic damage character, Junah or Euphy?
>>499479791I dunno what to tell you anon, I haven't had any issues after the first hour of fucking around with it. Maybe being shit at souls games for over a decade made me good in this.
>>499479879Euphy but Junah has op physical charge so I just use her with the summoner mask and it's a-ok
>>499479879Technically it should be Junah (Royal Masked Dancer gets Magic Surge) but Royal Summoner is so bonkers it usually turns out to be Eupha. Plus she can equip the Narcissus Brooch.
>>499479879Junah as a mage because her magic stat is fucking stupid.Dancer itself is a meme class if not for masquerade charge. There should be more bosses like devourer of stars.
>>499479879magic damage is shitbest use for junah is a chargeslut for basilio to spam wanton destruction
It was really nice of this dragon to let everyone monologue and have a heartfelt moment kek
Do your party members show up at the theater on certain days?
>>499480318even on devourer of stars i just used basilio's piercing attacknothing changed
>>499479879The MC
Is the dragon temple considered the halfway point of the game or am I nearing the end?
Is this story-gated? I don't wanna accidentally beat the game before I see everything.
>>499480563Exactly the halfway mark>>499480652Yeah its story based youre fine
Where's Hulkenberg's fat ass?
>>499478887Need this with Catherina, Brigitta, Fabienne and Maria.
>>499480354>magic damage is shit>best use for junah is a chargeslut for basilio to spam wanton destructionLiterally what carried me towards the endgame and helped me beat super boss louis
when do i fight more
>>499481167you don't, because he's your father
I feel like if any Atlus game needed a save/load loadout option the most it'd be this one.
Should just give steal a 100% success rate considering you can just rewind.
>>499481748No free steals. You have to pay with autism.
Just did Eupha's Rank 8Holy shit, you guys weren't kidding about the game hinting at a canon romance.I was wondering who it would end up being.
>>499481748not on REGICIDE difficulty!!!
>>499481748You're not supposed to just rewind. Surely you're not a console fag are you?
>>499481862She comes on strong in this event, but overall there feels like more shipteasing between MC and Gallica.
>swap team archetypes around for a boss>forget to change/add inheritance skills
>>499482465well memed friend
game is just me killing bunch of >Homos
>>499482465>swap archetypes>have to fix gear all around because it just auto equips whatever has highest def
>>499481862Where the fuck did this even come from?Do I just not understand women??
>>499484042its a video game broreal women are worse
>>499484042Don't worry, it comes out of nowhere. She shows some attraction to the MC during the Virga events, but nothing between then and the end of the S.Link portrays her growing feelings.
Can you save and reload the toilet for maximum luck? That'd be a real kind of hell.
haha love the old world reference
NO ONE LIKES ETRIAN ODYSSEY ATLUSSTOP TRYING TO FORCE IT INTO YOUR SERIES THAT PEOPLE ACTUALLY LIKEFUCK OFF
>>499484417>NO ONE LIKES ETRIAN ODYSSEYnormalfag alert HAHA look at the lost retarded normalfag
>>499484417I like EO thoughever
I am reading too much CHURCH BADJust look at Strohl. He lives by the story of the healer a mustari, but that is heresy of that Sanctist proverb ("If I have the power to save someone, then I will"). Their teachings are the very foundation of what it means to be noble.
>>499484286Toilet giving luck increase is just every Idlesday, not probability.
>>499484286>anon went to the toilet everyday thinking it was a dice roll to get the luck boostlol, can't really blame ya though, with the pantry right next to it being random what items you get (at least I assume)I probably would've made the same mistake had these threads not told me it was only Idlesday.
Wheres my Agi and ZioWhat the fuck are Kande and Cyc
LCK is my second highest stat after STR, the toilet breaks really add up
LCK is a bait stat to make people do choresDoesn't matter for MAGchads anyway
MAG is worthless for end game.STR is the optimal strat.
>MAGsissies
>win debate>popularity rank increase animation>rank remains the samehehjust like in real life!
why my popularity frozen at 619 in last arc
>>499485147ah I seesince they use cyc/cyclone for wind/force, that must mean kande is for fire!
>reading pride and persuasion for the 10th time because i don't fucking know how to raise eloquence otherwise.
>>499486308Junah on the runner, podiums in cities.
>>499486308junah can teach it on gauntlet runner at night
>>499486106BOOYAKA BOOYAKA
yea i was open to the persona series trying something new but i just dont think the fantasy setting can compare to life in a kawaii japanese high school
>>499486308Opera house gives a ton of stat points
Well shit if I knew weather was this busted I'd have been farming it sooner This is like 3x the rewards, insanity
>>499486437WHO'S THAT JUMPING OUT THE SKY
>>499487135>7k magWhere and how
The whole thing with Rella was shit. Shit!
>>499486308The podium adds a lot, especially if you spend your first week in brailehaven debating people.Tolerance is the hardest stat to raise, they probably think they're a genius for designing it that way
Loli Rella is cute. CUTE!
>>499487654It's partially bait because that was an Elementra, but you get about 1/5th of that from normal enemies in Everfrost Forest when it's snowing.
So I'm playing through the second main dungeon. If you beat the boss in the sewers, does that just skip to the end? The dungeons is already kind of shorter than I expected (not a bad thing). I was curious.
>>499488707>If you beat the boss in the sewers, does that just skip to the end?I should've tried this. I remember Heismay making it sound like you could, but shouldn't.They let you fight the dragon back with Grius, after all.
>>499488707It just runs after you beat it. Not really worth the effort since all you get is a health incense.
Hey if you skip a cutscene with dialogue choices that reward you with virtue points, do you still get the points?
>>499488935Nah it just fucks off for that particular segment and comes back the next time you need to play a little stealth minigame with it. Absolutely not worth the MP cost.
>>499488980It'll skip ahead to that choice and make you choose.
Alonzo gets a second fully voiced Rank 8 scene.Huh, he really was the trickster after all.
>>499489104But this time it didn't. In particular i'm talking about the scene early in the game where you cook redgrass-roasted whatever with Gallica. You get different tolerance points depending on your choice but I hit skip and missed it entirely.
>>499489054Aw, that's a shame. Still, I'll do it anyway on my fresh new game after finishing it today.>>499488957>all you get is a health incenseWhat a let down considering to the Greatsword you get from the dragon.
>>499489201Okay I think I know why that's happening
VAGINA BONESI REPEATVAGINA BONES
>>499487676She was just trying to push her sister away when she said this, right?
>>499489540#NINTENDO#TMS DIRECTOR#CERO
>>499488935The dragon was such a fucking bait. It gave you a weapon that could solo the entire cathedral, so you'd think the next extra bosses will do the same.Not a single one of them did.
>>499489573yes, the curse was killing her and she had no way to dispel it, so she faked being evil the whole time to get her sister to kill her, but ultimately cracked under the pressure and confessed the truth. she was a young impressionable child at the time and was pressured to do it by Forden. anyone who can't understand this is a sub-human level of brainlet.
Does anyone else get massive frame drops after idling for 2-3 minutes during character conversations/cutscenes? It fixes itself back after I move my mouse. Only happens in this game.
>>499489573All is explained like 3 minutes later if you just continue the conversation. Christ
>>499490626Thanks anonThe way it's worded is just so brutal I wasn't completely sure.
Sexy sexual sex with the she beast of the knight order Hulkenberg
>>499491165Them not directly spelling out to you exactly what happened has caused an upsurge in retardation, glad you're one of the good ones anon
Rella's plot line was so weird. Why was she so important to everything when she got a total screentime of like 10 minutes? Why did she pretend to be evil for a grand total of 2 of them? What was even the deal with the thorn magic? She feels like cut content that was forced into nearly the end of the game.
>>499492139Cut Mage academy dungeon
>>499492139Why are you so fucking dumb?
>>499492139>She feels like cut contentShe probably is.
>Just unlocked Soul Hacker>Neglected building MAG because I heard this was another Physchad game
>>499491391She's such a bro I forget she's actually a woman sometimes.Don't know if that's a good or a bad thing, but I really respect her all the same.
>>499492139I think it was just bad writing instead of cut content.she only exist to rally forden's supporter to the mc, because otherwise louis will still be winning the race
>>499492552>he fell for it againRetards will keep telling you to build str because they read ahead that the ultimate skill of the ultimate class is phys, so that means you should be underpowered all game for it.
>>499440835I'll ask here, I assume that people here are familiar with Atlus games.I just started playing P5 Royal yesterday. Never played Atlus game, never played a JRPG except for Sora+AO no Kiseki, and the calendar system is a bit confusing to me. I was given the chance to explore the city freely for the first time before the final fight with Ann's boyfriend, and I just want to know if there are any critical moments where I can fuck up due to my inexperience with the series and regret it later, or if I can just enjoy the ride and learn how the game works through experience. I play on hard if that matters.
>NYURF the runner isn't generating power!THEN GIVE ME A FUCKING BROOM I JUST WANT SOMETHING TO DO
>>499492552You can still have 80 str and 70 mag, stat building through maxing archtype is crazy
>>499492870Just enjoy the ride
>>499492718>underpowered>ninja>samurailollmaolow INT poster IRL pretending to have high INT in game
>>499493096>bro just level up those completely irrelevant archetypes firstlmao fucking retard
>>499460221the final dungeon has a respawning gold tooth enemy you can kill in one turn which gives you massive AEXP which gives you 45 hero leafs each encounter with everyone having a mastered class.
>>499492870The goal is to befriend everyone and maximize your social stat through activities such as visiting the cinema, watching rented movies or doing part time jobs.It's simple enough, if you see a character is available for a hangout, you go with them to increase your friendship level with them. The friendship level has a hidden exp bar that increase faster if you picked the correct answer when hanging out.Higher friendship event requires higher social stat, which is why you must balance hanging out with improving your stat. There are several hidden events like checking out the tv or doing crosswords in the cafe, but afaik everything is telegraphed by student NPCs in the morning.There's a fortune teller that can help you increase everything above faster, you'll know when you see it, but you need to pay her 100k before you can use her service.That said, I still advise to just do whatever and accept the result, better than stressing yourself out.
>>499493801>The magic archetype you get 50% through the game is good bro don't listen to the others>LEVELING THE STR BASED ARCHETYPES ON STR MC? NO YOU CAN'T DO THATlowINTasfuckLMAO
>>499493864Your minmaxing shitter opinion doesn't mater.
>>499493849Btw forgot to add you just need to pay 100k once. But her daily service is still expensive.
>>499493892>leveling a STR class as a STR MC is minmaxinglow INT? NON EXISTENT INT LOL
hay yoooou guys....level da SRENTH is bad min max!
>>499493976>str mcMC is canonically magic.You only leveled up str because you read a guide that said the ultimate ability is phys.You fags did the same thing with SMTV and murakumo spam when magic was perfectly viable, just lie it is in this game.
>>499494048>made up shit>made up strawman shit (considering most SMT and Persona players are probably going to go STR like always)>more made up strawman shitgreat post, but you're extremely assblasted. My counterpoint? LOL RETARD DIPSHIT
>>499494132>doesn't deny reading a guideConcession accepted
>>499494172>no you have to acknowledge my strawman retardation or you did itlol dude is having a mental breakdown
>>499494172World of Strength, newfag
>>499494048Seeker line is a hybrid class. What is so hard to understand about this?
>>499494213>game constantly talks about special Elda magic>huur duur i will level str because that's the natural reactionAt least try to pretend like you haven't read that Prince has a phys scaling almighty attack beforehand.
>>499494298mentally retarded people do not think the same as us
Atlus is the only company that will sell cosmetic DLC, consisting only of concept art for a game in a completely different franchise, six year before that game even releases.Final Hulkenberg is such a downgrade it's crazy.
>>499494320this retard RP'd himself into choosing magic like a fucking retardthis shit gets better and better>it's canonpffahahahahahahaa
>>499494365>NOOO HOW DARE YOUR ROLE PLAY IN AN RPG YOU HAVE TO READ A GUIDE AND MINMAXYou just keep proving my point retard.The most hilarious part is that you still think that magic is bad for some reason.
>>499494320>game constantly talks about special Elda magicAutism?
>>499494454more strawman retardation. Nobody said magic was 'bad'. :^)Do you get autismo bux at least, or do you have to work retarded?
>>499494320Physical builds are probably the most picked builds with your average SMT players, phys is almost universally good in them.Is there even one where they're bad? I can't think of one.
>>499494514Except you in every single one of your posts, moron.
guys...I picked STR...despite Dagda talking about "his Godslayer magic"...I didn't pick the canon choice........it's over for me....
Brigitta's bond is a persona S-link where you are working for a tired 30 year old yakuza boss lady who has a secret soft spot for a young boys as you become her source of comfort.
>>499494583>n..no...Y..YOUlol assmad retarded autistic faggot
>>499494454>role playing is when you ignore the fact that the game lets you level different statsLMAOOOOOOOO
>>499494631>I call myself STRchad because I TOTALLY don't think that magic is inferiorIt's getting embarrassing at this point.
>>499494320I actually picked str because mp management is easier when you're just using it to heal. Unfortunately they nerfed hp attacks to death in this game.
Hulkenberg pissed me off all game>MUH PRINCE, MUH PRINCEShut up bitch
>>499494732I'm more annoyed by the muh bug food
>>499494732>>499494783
Guys....I picked STR....but the game talked about....the "magic of the Nahabino"...it's over for me..I have to restart.... even though...STR is the most popular choice...it's not canon.....
Louis my beloved....
>>499494527Bad? Nah. But Magic is better in Devil Survivor remake. 2 is more up in the air but magic is certainly better for the early and mid game. End game, there's new phys spells in the remake and enough of them to make 2 phys teams, but I think you could argue either way.Which one is CANON though?
>>499494835>braindead guide reading minmaxer can't even post the correct screenshotlmao you tried
Damn you niggas fight over the dumbest shit
>>499492552read soul hacker's severe almighty synthesis and get back to me again
>>499495038>retard post #45356actually slug tier intellect or trolling? I think he's actually that dumb. That shit about 'muh canon' in a game with selectable stats just reeked of piss bottle autism
>>499495094STRniggers have to constantly remind everyone that you are not playing optimally like they are.The only real chads are LUCKchads.
>>499495094your post isn't canon. Sorry, try again.
>>499495153Based
>>499495153STR chads ran a train on your mom; that is why you're having a meltdown online over them kek
>>499495124You still posted the wrong screenshot so it's still embarrassing for you.Your post is invalid. Try again later :^)
she's trying her best
>>499494290the image that mindbreaks /meta/...
>>499495257>guy who pretends to be a wizard is the dumbest retard in the threadcomedy
Why does Faker have 2 Debilitate?
How often do you get luck from taking a shit? I feel like it barely if ever proc for me and I make sure to take my daily shit. Also what is the point of taking a shower?
>>499495324Sunday
hourly MAGcuck melty?
>>499495290Still the wrong screenshot :^)
>>499495408no, that was the right one you're just completely retarded lol>muh CANON>muh ELDA MAGIC
holy shit my framerate during the funeral was not good
>NOOOOOOOOO IF YOU DIDN'T GO A MAGIC BUILD YOU'RE CHEAAATTTIIIINNNNGGGGGGG >MUH CANNNOOOONNNNNNWhat form of autism is this
>>499495453>a screenshot of Yoshi somehow reflects on you pickigng STR as a nahobinoAt least try to act like you're not retarded
>>499495496the same kind of autism that claimed a str character leveling a str archetype is "a waste"in the game where you need to level them all anywaysYou can tell it's his first Atlus game desu
>>499494835Why is hassou tobi so shit here
>>499495512See you don't know this because you don't play other games, but you fuse demons in those games. So a STR team is going to use STR demons, and the MC might be just AGI and END to use items as a supportStill World of StrengthYou're still retarded and painfully autistic>MUH CANON MAGIC
>>499495547I don't think it's shit, it's just not as good as the other stuff, especially Bas' everything I'm still using Strohl though.
What's the Metaphor equivalent bait of "How did Ann kill her own shadow?"
>>499495670"Using STR is cheating and it means you looked up a guide because I said so"
>>499495592>using one stat teamAre you completely braindead or just pretending?There's nothing stopping you from using physical demons as a mag MC because both are completely separate. Basically, post the correct screenshot next time, so you won't have to get embarrassed and damage control for 5 posts.
>>499495701AUTISTIC RETARDlmao holy fucking shit >muh canon elda magic stop cheating muh guide muh strawman stop it stop it leveling ninja is cheating
Well well, we got ourselves some megaten /v/fags arguing in /meta/!
>>499495780My money's on strength!>giant fist in the king's eye grows
>>499495780megaten fags would know how the games work and that most people tend to go STR THOUGH
>>499495742>no argumentlmao just look at how fucking assblasted he is >>499495698 he's no replaying to other people being passive aggressive.The poor dude completely lost it.Can you link me your guide?
>>499495830>I'm not mad you're mad - let me just repeat everything you said
>>499495830what's the canon build though Mr. Autism? Can you tell us, via the lore, why it is so?
Isn't thief better for farming? Feels like ennemies are really pissing out their items if you can one shot them, it's pretty nuts
>>499478887
>>499495950Yes, like those moths for example drop MAG pills so you get like 99 just clearing Dragon Temple normally. But remember that that archetype is CHEATING and you used a guide if you didn't go magic, so beware
>>499495891Hey, you're the one who got triggered first after i called you out.Everything i said is true and you're having a melty because of that because you can't refute other than calling me names and posting incorrect screenshots lmao.>>499495932Still magic, sorry.
>>499495994Would still rim her
You can spend 22 MAG for easy early game then focus on STR later
>>499496027imagine how stupid you have to be to not only realize everyone in this setting can use magic, even the strong people, but also to use the in-game Church's lies about the Elda as proof of out of game 'canon' mechanicsholy fucking shit KEK I am fucking dying
Not a single person correctly identified that the "correct" build is hybrid..Every single person in this thread is a retard.
>>499496027Pack up boys, the Church accused the Elda of having 'dark magics' so MC has to be magic basedit's canonyou get reported to Atlus if you build anything else, pack it up, we're done, it's over
calm down retards
Did you guys miss the part where humans were the original weilders of magic?
>>499496121you only go 'hybrid' when you reach softcap so no, "hybrid" for 75% of the game is retarded as fuck
>>499496101Everyone can use bootleg magic.Elda can use special magic.Post screenshot of the game saying Elda have special STR skills.Until then, I win. >>499496172lmao just look at this dude having a complete meltdown when someone doesn't read a guide like he does
real chads go for END builds
>>499496213>n..no..y...YOU'RE t..the meltdown...pure autism >>499494320>>499494048>>499493801just read these braindead mentally deficient posts
>>499496310Thanks for providing more evidence that I'm right
>>499496348I think it's sad that your canon is that your mom didn't abort. Missing chromosomes is no joke
>He need to allocate his stat pointsfucking casuls
>STR mindbroke an INT sissy so bad he's been on a rant for 30 minutes now>he's just bleating 'it's cheating, it's not canon, it's cheating, you used a guide' over and overit's hard to be this strong bros
That anon asking what was the point of rella acting villain for 2 minutes before backpedaling, one possible answer was literally 5 posts above: she just wanted to strike Junah nerve so she would hate her and avoid the misery that is having your sister die due to all that church injustice
A firm penissing would have fixed the Rella problem, I'm sure of it.
>>499496443If he had leveled his endurance it wouldn't have hurt him so bad
>>499496401lmao all you can do is call me names. You are literally powerless. Just implying str is underpowered mid game was enough to send you niggers into a frenzy lmao.I on the other hand, never once said magic is better than str.
I wish luck didn't suck in this game
>>499496415You could probably get away with not doing so since the bonuses from mastery are so big.
>>499496572it's because it's not canon
A real embarrassing display for magcucks this thread
Posting this for my own sanity to prove the shrooms do come from the pantryI was reloading like +30 times...
>>499496443And the STR has yet to refute any of that because it's true lmao Literally all they can do is samefag without quoting, like the cowards they are. See another example >>499496635
>>499496635that fucking retard doesn't represent me, man. I'm just over here doing my Wizard->Elemental master thing, having a good time
>>499496693Not canon
>>499496693anon...
Feeling the burn, STR bros. Doing squats on this nerd's chest as he seethes and cries. Skip leg day? Not on Stephen's watch I don't.
>>499496776https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q6p09uI8RbQthread theme
>>499496723Shut the fuck up, INTcuck, nobody asked for your inferior playstyle. Come back when you can play in the big leagues.Also enjoy not doing any damage late game.
>NG+>One shot everything on overworld combatThis isn't as fun as I thought it would be, but it did make me wonder: do you get the same amount of shit as you would if you went into squad combat? Talking about xp and drop and all that
>>499496752Please don't say there's some super easy way I could've got it that I missed...>>499496735no no noDon't include me in that mess of a conversation, tyvm.
>>499496776I've heard the claims. I've found them to be .... incorrect. What if I told you that all builds are, in fact, canon?
>>499496705>refute my baseless assumptions that you're CHEATING because you didn't follow my headcanon!!!!!Lol lmao rofl
>>499496903sorry, I don't make the rules. The in game glossary says where they grow, and it's not in the pantry so it's non canon.
this has been the funniest thread all week, ngl. Thank YHWH for severely autistic people and the humor they provide us
>>499496967All you need to do is post a screenshot of the game claiming Elda have special STR powers. But you won't because you can't.I win, you lose.
>>499497052Guy straight up argues like Barry
>>499497083>game lets you level any stat you want>let a one-off line of dialogue choose for youCuckoldry to an extreme not yet understood by man
>>499497083>All you need to do is post a screenshot of the game claiming Elda have special STR powers.>But you won't because you can't.>I win, you lose.
>>499497052Agreed, I never knew it was this easy to trigger strfags. I might do it more often from now on.
>Multiple lines in game about how scrawny Will is>Yeah this little twink should have a strength build
>Try to calculate my travel to get in a dungeon during shit weather for maximum gains>Turns out bumfuck of nowhere villages don't count as camping and I arrive a day earlyFug
>>499497307It literally tells you how many days it takes when you press on your destination.Don't tell me you set a new route each day.
>getting laughed at for 30 minutes by the entire thread>lol i trigr ukek
>Roussainte are described as the physical powerhouses of the universe>They're all twigsUhhhhhh my canon????My lore????????? Are they cheating??????????????
>>499497356W-well..
>>499497373they looked up a guide and saw that their best move was to cry and stand around in town
>>499497367>n-no I laff at u I no trigr reallyok ,samebab
>>499497487I..INT chads...a..all we can do..is repeat other people? Aren't we supposed to be smart? Was it all a lie? Are we still canon?
>n-no u repet me I no trigr honestOn your last braincells, I see. Others must be burned out by now from the heat produced by your meltdown.
>>499489107I wonder if some people are going to intentionally avoid completing his link.
>>499497703I know some aren't completing Maria's link because that means you get cucked and the street boys run a train on her instead
Strohl's rank 8 bond event is really nice, fantasy setting allows for really emotional moments.
>>499478887The girls aren't sexy or charming enough
>>499497819>I wasted all my inheritance on some hobos, I'm sure it's what my parent's wanted right? R-right?Yes, really nice. Those people don't need him anymore now that they got some sucker to settle them for life. But I guess it's a fantasy setting, so they might actually be grateful.
>>499497649>ESLlol
Maria cunny
if we ever make a vgl team our two gold medals need to be STRFAGS and MAGFAGS with stealth LUCKGODS
>>499497819Nah his bond was dumb, even if he's the best character overall.
>>499497916Ah there it is, the final cope. When you absolutely cannot argue the point anymore. Just call someone ESL.Next is going to be tranny and kike, amirite? Just go back to /v/, retard.
>>499497980no thanks I don't want a retarded autist representing us real INTgods
>>499497915>>499497983tfw too stupid to understand Strohls link
I'd rather you guys talk about Gallica's feet than this senseless flinging
>>499498021non canon post YAWN
>>499498021KEKYPOW! HOLY KEKAROO!
>>499498056>muh peopleThere's nothing to understand. He had an inferiority complex and he thought that if he saved some dirty peasants, it would make him a lord again.
>>499498021hey you didn't just repeat someone else's post for once! You're not a bot after all, just severely retarded
>>499498047Why do you keep saying INT as if that's a stat in this game?
Metaphor 2 will be called re science fiction. Set in space colony 1 million years after kingdom of euchronia timeline
>>499498114>KEKYPOW! HOLY KEKAROO!oh shit the 'muh canon' retard is the dumb fucker who says 'kekaroo' LOL
>>499498056You're too stupid to understand that there is no substance
>>499498226who is that i just said it because you're annoying
>>499498207what will be the canon build for that one?
>I don't need to refute that the game lets you pick your stats>YOU need to refute that you didn't let a random line of dialogue pick your stats for you!At that point why even open the game, just watch "Metaphor Refantazio: The Movie (all cutscenes)" lmao
>>499498262>who is the one who uses the dumb fucking retard babytalk I just typedyou, I would guess
>>499498207But will the MC get his pelvis crushed by Brigitta's fat arse this time?
>>499498269Whaler
>>499498308not even a random line of dialogue, a line from glossary that is the Church's slander against the Elda to oppress themkinda funny
>martira's day themeabsolute banger, not sure why people claim this game's soundtrack is not memorable.
>>499498360pretty fucking based, I love spears
>>499498364That's one more than anything to support a str build.And there are plenty of dialog mentioning that.I still win. You still lose and are still melting down over it.
>>499498504Hey anon why am I allowed to pick my stats :)
>>499498380Because it isn't Other than the combat theme everything is forgettable. And the combat theme is memorable because there's only one.
>>499498504Will is canonically a retard, although not as much of one as you. He literally cannot be good at magic.GG EZ
Time marches on, and the age of a new autismo draws near...
>>499498602retard
>>499498572Because you are allowed to play a non cannon character. >>499498626Still not a single proof that implies MC is good at physical stuff lmao. I admire you for still trying though.
>>499498603where is this from, it wasn't in the artbook
I took a luck build.
>>499498626>Will is canonically a retardactually this is truefrom Strohl's first plan to the end, he is pretty fucking dumb I mean, he didn't even know who this was, the fucking idiot
>>499498725nice
>>499498725not canon, the Church in the game didn't say the Elda have good luck
>>499498757Who is it though?it says unfamiliar tribe.
I don't get it, why would the audience think the party a bunch of thieves if they recovered the lance? They don't even know the party is there and they can just force pull it from the roof.
>>499498820bc they would have thrown a wrench into Loius's keikaku
>>499498817we need our best detectives on this one or we'll never crack the case. Let's ask the guy who knows what the canon build in this game is.
>be born of the tribe known for physical prowess>so physically weak he has to resort to underhanded trickery and magicWtf bros why didn't he take the canon build?
>>499498820eupha failed so they had to intervene
>>499498976God looked at a guide before making him
>you lost all the ultimate weapon from the final dungeonwhat's even the point of NG+
>mindbroken fag still samefags about cannonI understand what you're going for, but it just makes you look like it struck a never
>>499498820based retard, forden's entire army is down there. of course they're going to get caught.
>>499499254>cannon>struck a nevernot a canon post
>>499499102You mean the king weapons? They do import
>>499499458I didn't see them. Is my save bugged?
>>499499102maybe they are unsellable lol but they are still in my inventory
>>499499563Could be? I really don't know what to tell you, I have them equipped right now
>>499499563Look ion your inventory not during selling
>>499499564This is your brain on STR build
>>499499694canon status?
Is there a point to rank 5 virtues?
>>499499741Rank 6 bonds
>>499499741some characters require rank 5 on certain virtues to finish their bond ranks
>>499499739None
>>499499796With who?
>>499499603>>499499623Oh okay>>499499694You don't get access to your inventory until your second visit to akademeia
I feel like the quality took a nosedive after the opera house
Did anyone do calcs yet when is the Steal boost pipe worth dropping for stats?
>around level 50 or so after Dragon Temple>think the game has got pretty easy>oh, I can just go up to hard, an extra turn will probably make a lot more tough>I've been on hard the whole timeoh
Those merchants that sell items one at a time through a long ass dialogue is nothing but pain
>>499500218it's the most petty way possible to gate something they don't want you to have in bulk
>>499500317it doesn't take long to edit a 1 into a 99
sweaty clumsy sex with Catherina
>>499499948For me it started around Brilehaven.
Strohl is the most peak husband material I have ever seen in gamingHe’s just so perfect. He’s kind, funny, strong, and I love how he cares for the protagonist and his people. It’s also so cute how he gets motion sick on the gauntlet runner… He’s just so husband material,,,, Atlus wrote peak best boy. Man I just love Strohl so much.
why does eupha lose access to her skills when she becomes a devil summoner
>oh cool you can fish in the game>then realized I don't want to waste my time on fishing instead of raising my virtues
>>499501439You realized wrong.You can only get a certain fish for food through fishing and you're fucked if you didn't do it while you were traveling the islands. You'll have to waste extra days now
>>499500540Didn't she basically ask for the dick everytime she was back in town?
>>499501516The only food I've ever eaten through the whole game so far is the finisher food for farming high level enemies in bad weather.
Do I need to go out of my way to travel to the runners in Altabury or will there going to be some destination on the way eventually?
>>499501912yeah you'll have to fight them directly
I turned Eupha into a brawler so she could be like Tien
>>499502085not canon HOW FUCKING DARE YOU
Why do Will sounds like he's taking a fat deuce when he take a dip in the back of the runner?
ending was classic chaosfag brain>talk about POWER non-stop>fails the test he was going to impose on the kingdom>loses his self>loses anyways
Fairy gang
>>499502580>MUH STRENF
just spam Frigid Fortress Tacticuntil you get royal zerkereverything die within 5 turnonly hard fight is 1-1 vs Luis. (just use reflect)
>More says check out the Mage Academy>Rella invites you there>Don't even mention or think about More at all>Beat Rella and her dragon>Leave>More: Well Will it's lucky that I couldn't sense you while you were there because it seems like you didn't even fucking bother to check inside, thanks asshole
>>499501078Gay
>>499503401cut content please understand
>>499503401As butchered as the average american foreskin
>>499501912You have to go out of your way
>>499503234the story is quite enjoyable until after a dragon god arceven less gameplay than in persona 5 (while playing, I developed a legitimate concern for the future of persona 6) overall is solid 7/10 game
>plot starts because you have to save to prince>finally saved the prince>no one gives a shit for the next 5 hoursExplain???
Here's an ideaThe Endless SpireIt generates the third floor above you as you arrive at a new one with randomly generated enemies and chestsTheres also a growing miasma coming from the floor that will poison you and eventually swallow you and it progresses even in battle, albeit slowlyA couple floors require you to defeat every enemy or certain enemies to progress on with every five having a boss/melancholia crystalTheres also mandatory safe rooms every five floors to reset engine position so the game doesn't shit itself.Basically bloody palace meets Tartarus.Getting to the end of the endless spire reveals the most sacred truth that Eupha best girl
>>499504965He's just sooooooooo sleepy snooooore mimimimi don't wake him up yet
>>499504965stop speedreading
>>499504965Nice spoilers faggot.
>>499504154The only hiccup for me was the obvious rushing in altabury screwing up the overall groove of the game. It settled out when you get back to trad.
eupha's bath water...................yum.................................
>>499505421> obvious rushing in altaburyI am at that point and i legit want to drop the game
>Give you a bunch of cutscene meme fights in the middle of the game>Suddenly throw Rella at you with her element walls and spam buffs/debuffs and AOE physical and AOE spellsHoly shit it was like having ice water splashed on my face
>>499443059Wait he did? Where was this mentioned or did I completely miss the implications of something?
>>499505756I'm speaking honestly here when I say that I don't get fags like you that want to or do drop the game over every small thing.>OH NO THE PLOT IS GOING FAST I NEED TO DROP THE GAME>OH NO THE PLOT IS TAKING A BREATHER I NEED TO DROP THE GAME>OH NO A DIFFICULTY SPIKE I NEED TO DROP THE GAME>OH NO THE GAME GOT EASIER I NEED TO DROP THE GAMELike jfc dude are you so callow that following through causes you physical pain?
>>499502580That’s the difference between Louis and a Chaosfag: The Chaosfag has a chance of succeeding.
>>499506191>the game is no longer enjoyable and I don't careYes, it's a valid reason to drop it.
>>499506191
>>499498757The “tribe” part is really what gets me. He sees those giant bug eyes and shiny hair and is like, “damn, is this a rhoag child or something???”
aren't Hulkenberg and Storhl their last names? why are we not in first name basis?
>>499506968>>499506968>>499506968
>>499506434>>499506565This is exactly what I'm talking about though. A momentary lapse in enjoyment and your brain immediately jumps to "drop it". If you immediately jump off the rollercoaster because it took a dip you didn't enjoy, then please tell me you at least have the decency to not ask others to take your opinion on anything seriously.
