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>UPCOMING TOURNAMENTS
/ggg/: NONE
NA/EMEA weeklies/monthlies: https://x.com/nafgcto

>UPCOMING EVENTS
Paris Games Week | Oct. 23 - Oct. 27: https://www.youtube.com/live/IIYDPLu9L_A
Queen Dizzy and Major Balance Patch | Oct. 31
Team of 3 Open Beta #2 | Nov. 8 - ???
Arc World Tour 2024: https://www.arcsystemworks.jp/awt2024/

>RESOURCES
Main wiki with frame Data and information about system mechanics: https://www.dustloop.com/w/GGST
Player Glicko-2 ratings: http://puddle.farm/top/all
Fighting game glossary: https://glossary.infil.net/
Deflect Shield OS tech: https://twitter.com/Precho6055/status/1778514309015826445

>Replay Uploaders
https://replaytheater.app/?game=strive

>/ggg/ APPROVED Strive mods
Potato Mod
https://gamebanana.com/mods/299494/
https://gamebanana.com/mods/296927/
Frame Data Display
https://github.com/Chitaso/StriveFrameViewer/releases (1.08/Pre Season 4)

>Season 4 Balance Update Trailer, Oct 31st
https://youtu.be/61_NyQKnU0w?si=aqCiNAwtInBV9b4y

>Queen Dizzy DLC Trailer, Oct 31st
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8H8lZpluJWc

>Latest Dev Backyard (17th Volume, June 28th)
https://www.guiltygear.com/ggst/en/news/post-2249/

>Latest Patch 1.38 (July 22nd)
https://www.dustloop.com/w/GGST/Version/1.39

>Current Balance Patch 1.38 (July 22nd)
https://www.dustloop.com/w/GGST/Version/1.38

>Nintendo Switch Edition Trailer
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k9zCMBXz57k

>Xrd/+R/#R Stuff:
https://pastebin.com/tS6sjRUd
https://www.reddit.com/r/Guiltygear/wiki/learngg/

>Guilty Gear Soundtracks
https://mega.nz/folder/VRxC2JqT#E0Jfw9f_yEwIV6yFgXnDZw/

State platform and region when making lobbies for the thread and announce in the thread when you close them. You ft10 anyone you make the lobby. Keep training and keep on rockin'!

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>>499554434
feet
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I don't think this patch is really going shake up the game much
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>>499554434
Mogged by Vikala
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>>499555007
Who? Is that a Vtuber? I'm not joking or trying to start shit I genuinely don't know what this character is from.
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>>499554829
They changed Sol’s 5K. Everything is possible
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I hope nago gets some actual fucking nerfs this patch. I'm sick and tired of arcsys making excuses for keeping this dumb nigger in top 3 since launch. Beyblade needs to go back to being a mid and be negative. There's also zero fucking reason why his normals need to do chip. Tired of this fucking monkey ass character.
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>>499555178
Her design is so dogshit she might as well be one of those double digit subs garbage vtubers
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>>499555242
>He doesn't know
Sorry anon but Nago is going to be even more retarded
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If I get enough wins with ramlethal I will be able to have sex with her irl, so guard crush is awesome.
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>>499555242
you get bloodu rageu launchu for fullu combo
you rike?
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>>499555178
>>499554487
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kusoge
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GAY NIGGAS
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soivers
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What a fucking shitshow. I pray for actual system changes but am extremely doubtful. Gave up already on this game but was disappointed anyways. Had lightning in a bottle with this games success and they pissed it away making the game WOW SO VOLATILE OMG BIG RED BAR FJSKFKWKDJ!!!!!
Doubtful gear or strive will ever be nearly as popular again with this shitty ass game design direction they've doubled down on

Sandolphon waiting room for me I guess, not that that games much better for other reasons
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grasping1's twitter was suspended. now how am I gonna shitpost?
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>>499555576
it's funny how dizzy lost her wheels but vikala has a rat wheel thats the same exact projectile lmao
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>>499556249
not getting two touched by slayer already makes granpoo 100 times better
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>NOOOOOOOOOOOO YOU CAN'T CALL THE PATCH SHIT YOU HAVEN'T EVEN PLAYED IT YET!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Nigga did you see the fucking trailer? This game is fucking dead.
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>>499555564
Weird that they removed the nuance of instant overhead bloodrage jH requiring meter.
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https://x.com/nage_pink/status/1849027173396664438?s=46&t=QTQxnMvAIflzUNeuyE9sPQ
oh nononono
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>strive gets a trailer
>/fgg/ krappa and gbvsfags instantly invade the thread to try and harsh good vibes
L + Ratio + The Town is Inside Me
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>>499556378
Its not like Dizzy wheels were all that good anyways
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>>499556378
it's funny because her trailer was kinda lame, people were somewhat disappointed
then the dev match dropped and we realized we know jack shit
and Dizzy's trailer was horrible...
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>>499556545
this was before the patch dropped DOUGH
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>>499556628
i dont disagree usually i like to shit on the bloat nonsense secondaries like to use when talking about old game but that move is genuinely, even in +r with it's frc point.
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>>499556249
>gear would be better if they refined the system not the characters
Kill yourself.
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>>499556545
kek wait a minute
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I never pop blood on nago. So now I'm forced to pop it to actually get a change to the character and if I don't there are no changes made?
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>>499557265
I'm hoping Nago gets more changes too. Hopefully beyblade is a mid, minus on block and you don't do chip damage anymore.
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>>499557265
His new special is still in the pipeline
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I-no is just destined to remain trash but that's okay I still love her :)
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>>499556581
so true xister
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>>499555007
Might try her out when she's released. Still not buying the game though and will drop the game again in a day or two
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>>499557265
Remove blood meter from nago, cut is damage and health in half and we have peak nago.
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>>499557768
I-No is fine, you faggots just want her to be Sol/Slayer.
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>>499558108
NTA, yes. I fucking do, in Xrd/+R she does just as much damage as them and she should do so again
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>yrc
>respond with reversal super
lmao you should kill yourself honestly
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did dizzy lose her double airdash?
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>>499558347
we dont know
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>>499555007
I genuinely kneel. Armored potbuster was the final straw for me.
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>>499558329
He sounds based. Learn to churn, bitch
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>>499558189
Sorry that you're not smart enough to play a character that turns every single interaction into a 50/50 guessing game that leaves you at advantage.
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>>499556976
Gear would be better if they actually allowed the rounds to last longer than 2 seconds and the screen wasn't so fucking zoomed in. Bu they've made it crystal clear they're never giving us meaningful defensive options or space to move around in, which has kneecapped this game beyond repair
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"kneecapped this game beyond repair" is a funny way to describe the first actually playable guilty gear game ever
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>>499558347
If you watched the trailer you know as much as us bud.
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would be interesting to see how the ice floor would work with drift rc momentum. don't think it's worth getting rid of all the interesting stuff she could do before however.
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>>499557881
Personally I'd had my fill about a day before they actually fixed the demo exploit I was using.
I dunno why tourists are trying to attract people to their dead kusoge in this thread. It might look anime but it plays like a really dry Street Fighter.
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>>499554434
GioSisters, you did notice her changes at a single glance, right?
Otherwise you don't love her.
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there's zero chance she still has her airdash
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theresa chance she still has her airdash
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>>499559198
>It might look anime but it plays like a really dry Street Fighter
The irony unless you don’t play strive
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Dizzy's gameplay has always been a mess of questionably useful moves added solely because they wanted the fire/ice for every special thing. I for one welcome any attempt to make her more cohesive.
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>millia dogshit for last 3 seasons
>what should we do for the new season?
>lets give her nothing then make all her hard matchups harder
cant wait
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>>499558801
Is it really necessary for rounds to enter effective checkmate in 8 seconds 90% of the time? is that peak playable gameplay?
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>>499559457
I play GGST, +R and Tekken 8. I used to play SF4 and T7 but they died. If you're implying that Strive is drier than GB you're honestly fucking retarded.
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Where the fuck is bubble
I expected to lose more of the fire moves from Xrd and programming/alternative fish
But where the fuck is bubble? Why did they give fucking Michael sword instead? She already had a fuck you range button to end safely end pressure or pop people up, and it's spear
Seriously where is bubble

Fuck is this what everyone else felt like when their favorite OGs got in and got Strive'd down?
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>>499559957
No neutral tools. No setplay. Only rushdown.
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>>499559957
>and it's spear
Spike* fuck

WHERE IS BUBBLE
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>1 fish.
>hits once.
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>>499559217
I did except her faster dash speed
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>>499559957
I'm always amused at retards like you who act surprised whenever a new character gets released. It's strive, everyone gets fucking raped
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>>499560274
>wahhhhhhhhhh wahhhhhhhhhhh my coomer bait isn't kuso enough
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>>499560386
it took sol 4 years to stop playing xrd
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>>499560504
How is Strive Dizzy coombait?
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>>499560623
If it ain't fat, black and gay it's coombait
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>>499560623
just because she isn't dressed like her whore self in the previous games doesn't mean she isn't coomer bait, smooth brain
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What does Anji has done to deserve to be this retarded????
Why he gets for fuujin to be so unbearable to fight against? Why like 3/4th of the characters cant punish nagiha with 2k 2D? Why you cant bait spin with 5f normals anymore??? Like what in the fuck this homosexual character did to be this buffed constantely without any downside? He was never the worst character in the fucking game not even once and ALL OTHER low tiers since launch have got less shit than he has, Faust got less, Axl got less fucking GL and Sin went from bot1 to top1 like why?
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Any idea what the golden wings are towards the end of the trailer?

Looks like an install but they didn't show a super for it
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>>499560504
>conflating visual and game design into 1 post
masterful gambit sir
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I can't think of anything more talmudic than giving pot armor during grab.
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>>499560778
what do you even do against fuujin> fuujin eternally
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>>499560891
I can't tell from the clip; is it armour during startup or during it's active frames only? Between this and the HPB changes last patch it's getting riskier and riskier to leave any gaps against Pot.
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>>499561081
fuujin > spin looses to throw
fuujin > hop looses to mash
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>>499560585
Please actually play Sol in Xrd
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>>499561179
He does it after a blocked c.s, so he's pretty plus, armor could kick in only after some frames
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>>499561202
OH YES I LOVE COIN FLIP I LOVE GETTING CH AND LOSING BECAUSE I CHOSE AN OPTION AND NOT THE OTHER AND THERE WAS NO WAY TO PREDICT I LOVE HAVING A GAME ENTIRELY DECIDED BY LUCK I LOVE FIGHTAN GAMES.
I'm offing myself in a river see you soon in hell /ggg/
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I'm just mad sol players can now special cancel into fafnir and vortex. He doesn't need to think anymore before using them. He's not allowed to have weaknesses. He doesn't need to spend meter. Everything converts, everything wall bounces. Everything is a knockdown. He's the only one allowed to do anything fun. While everyone else is forced to do strike throw. It's just annoying.
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>>499561202
I'm talking about fuujin into fuujin
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>>499561556
Hold it ig lmaooooo
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>>499561441
>comes to a fighting game to complain about a core concept of fighting games
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>>499554434
Hi, newfag here. Have you any good advice for getting good at this game? I'm tired of getting kicked out from rematch by strong people
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If the nightmare scenario comes true and Pot has a frame 1 armored buster I'm not even sure he'll be toppest tier. Will certainly be unpleasant to fight against.
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>>499561556
looks like it's gapless, but it moves him closer for a punish so why would you bother
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>>499558108
>you faggots just want her to be fun to play and do high damage
Y-... yes...??
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>>499561209
I doubt that's gonna happen. Nobody plays Xrd
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>>499559957
why are you surprised?
baiken lost:
>azami
>suzuran
>rokumon
>S-Kabari
>kuchinashi
>rokkonsogi
>mawarikomi
>sakura
>yashagatana
>tsubaki
>kikyou
>himawari
>tetsuzansen
but got a tether in return lmao
you knew this was coming
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>>499562963
>rokumon
oops thats the song
I meant metsudo
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>>499562963
suzuran is kinda there now...
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>>499561736
I mean, sources like advanced gameplay stuff, getting good at spacing, how to be consistent with blockstrings and okizeme maybe. I don't know where to look for...
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>>499563390
Sorry man you've arrived in prime shitposting time (right before a big patch)
Come back in three weeks or so
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>>499563390
Just pick nago and you won't need those things
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>>499563390
You genuinely won't find any of this in plain text anywhere
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>>499563390
Check dustloop and look up character guides on yt
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>>499563390
which character?

also numbers will spike when dizzy drops next week so you'll have people to fight
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>>499560623
I’m imagining her in a micro bikini whenever I think about playing her and will continue
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>>499563390
Can't you just fight people in the park bro? I like to play park when I'm hella drunk and was initially surprised that people will endlessly rematch me even when I'm basically a mobile punching bag
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>>499563867
BASED
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>>499563480
Uh...
>>499563542
Nah, don't like him
>>499563715
Done, but there's that unseen stuff that I can't learn anywhere
>>499563801
Bridget mainly
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>>499563980
I meet only strong players that gets bored after 10 matches, I mean, I understand it, but fuck I want get at least near at those levels and 10 matches aren't enough for me to find solutions
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but ram already has a sword that hits low...
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>>499564461
She needed 2.
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breadly sin
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>>499564461
Now this hits even lower, does crashguard and explodes and you will like it!
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>>499564151
>>499564427
Button button yoyo special and try to learn to adapt quicker. If you're confused about something there's no shame in asking.
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>see drizzy thread on /v/
>remember this piece of shit game exists

God I wish shitve would just disappear I hate it so fucking much
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>>499564781
Johnny confuses me a lot, it's always his turn lol
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>>499564851
Thanks for visiting tourist bro!
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>>499564461
i think the point is that it sticks into the ground so it works midscreen, not just in the corner
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>>499558189
>in Xrd/+R she does just as much damage as them
i-no always did higher than average damage but lets not get crazy, sol and slayer actually delete people, she does at most 40% of a good counterhit
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>>499565468
Why did they ruin Sol by taking away sidewinder…
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>new ky vs sin theme
>trailer starts with ky
>trailer ends with sin
soul.
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She is so cute btw
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>>499565760
censorship is never cute
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The dizzy trailer is so lame, I can't be the only one thinking it
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I haven't understood Strive balance since they started adding new moves, why tf do they just cover all characters' weaknesses? Do they know how to balance fighting games at all? Do they understand that weaknesses are what make characters stand out?
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>>499565884
Well, the direction about character design was pretty clear now
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>>499565947
It really didn't show much. Even the dev said it didn't show everything she had.
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>>499566041
>Do they know how to balance fighting games at all?
Have you seen HC? Have you taken a single look at tournament results and how little those results have changed since launch? Why would you even ask this question, anyone who has even a passing familiarity with Strive knows the answer.
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>>499566041
How does Chipp's new tightrope help his fragile ninja bones?
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>>499566592
He can hang on the rope directly now
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>>499565752
>>new ky vs sin theme
?
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>>499564461
Hold on, Ram already got her new move
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>>499566041
>RWA lets characters with low-reward pokes get high reward
>???
what else are you refering to exactly?
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>>499567007
So did faust, which means that characters some got at least 2 new moves? I don't understand what they changed with leo tho
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>>499566041
I think they're trying to make the game more appealing to old fans by adding flashy combo filler, but they're not adjusting the core system that keeps everything overly simple. They still want to maintain Strive’s accessibility for beginners, so instead of meaningful changes, they’re just tweaking moves that get rid of character weaknesses, which makes them less unique and interesting to play.
>>499566973
Everyone in the youtube comments are saying the new theme is a Ky vs Sin theme. So I'm just going with it.
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>>499565628
i unironically think sidewinder ruins sol cause it just makes everything about his combos just "how do i route into sidewinder" and it genuinely gets boring really fast
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>>499566041
reminder ib is still 2 frames in strive, and now they added more moves that make defense feel like turbo ass.
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>>499567256
>I don't understand what they changed with leo tho
His move that enters backturn is now safer on block due to added pushback
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>xrders complaining that strive IB is too hard and that defense is too hard

Hahahahaha.... I can't...
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>play against a slayer
>7f rollback
ok. i won't rematch.
>one and done
>tells me "elphelt is respectless. no one respects you."
ok. i still won't rematch.
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>>499568815
>anon can't into game design
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>>499569005
A fucking narwhal
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>>499568815
Ah yes, I remember when playing against Venom didn't turn the game from multyplayer to single player
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>>499569005
cute!
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>>499569005
horrible
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>>499569005
the narwhal bacons at midnight
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>>499569191
they're the jedi of the sea >:3
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>>499568959
you both should hang yourselves for playing such lame ass button mashing character to be honest.
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>>499569005
Have you ever been narwhaled?
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>pillar is now safe on block
tempted to come play some again but god this game looks like they're just tripling down on the cancer lol
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>>499569679
You know, I switched to sf6, unib and t7/8 and then came back here. It's just worse outside
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>>499569005
sex with dizzy
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>watch the update trailer
>everyone gets sick shit and fucked up options
>bedman has marginally better float on airborne 5K hits slightly faster recovery on install
good for all the bedman players who use bed install (me exclusively)
that 5E call that causes the head to go further better be optional. it already misses by going behind people sometimes
dizzy feet
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>>499569971
ive played a lot of sf6 and all it's really good for is being a change of pace. it's insane the extent to which everyone in the cast plays the same. game's actually ass lol
unfortunately ive just played too much strive that anything short of them changing an actual shitload of stuff just wouldn't be a big enough shakeup to interest me for long. i mean what the fuck was that goldlewis combo in that clip lol
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https://youtu.be/rYAEFzwlaII
My lord the delivery on some of these jokes was legendary. This was fucking hilarious. Once again despite the jokes, still extremely humble and downplaying himself. I'll never understand the idea that he is a narcissist.
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>>499569971
>play bad games
>don't play the good one
only yourself to blame
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if granpoo ranked was populated in europe i'd never touch soive again
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>>499571106
girl the characters in grubble take 45 seconds to run at max speed across the screen, im not touching that shit
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>>499570334
The fact is that sf is too slow, I have infinite rounds because people doesn't want to move a single inch, they want to punish everything and risk nothing and with many characters it actually works. It's fuckin lame.
>goldlewis
I'm pretty sure he could have continued just the dev got bored of continuing the combo lol
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Hey, at least we didn't get a proper ranked mode
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she looks cute here
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>>499571106
I've bought the gbfv I refuse to buy it again the puppet girl looks fun tho
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>>499571373
pavlovian number addicts being at the mercy of ratingupdate will never stop being funny
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>>499571094
lmao did hotashi actually comment on one of his videos
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>>499571552
>Ky offers sex with his wife at half price
What a cuck
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>>499571580
everyone who unironically posts their elo from ratingupdate should be sent to an asylum
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Cant find an english version of this but supposedly shes as easy as slayer
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>>499571570
Nier?
she's the most memed character in gbvsg
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>>499571752
don't mind if I do
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>>499571726
Hotashi trying to shit on Clayton. CLAYTON of all people on his knowledge of gg is some next level brain rot.
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>>499571993
what a whore
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>>499571094
the title is funny as fuck
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>>499571993
it's just a description of her personality and past. "she used to be wary of humans but after meeting kind people she let that go. she's honest and kind and hates conflict more than anything" blah blah
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>>499572007
lol I wonder why
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>>499563390
90% of people on /ggg/ don't play. They just do culture war stuff and make opinions based off what streamers or the other 10% say.
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>>499572280
It used to be worse, these days its probably just one or 2 schizos
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>>499572280
shit posters unless proven lobby goer
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>>499572280
Excuse you, I play in lobbies AND shitpost.
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girl boss season
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>>499571993
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>>499572801
>people complain that the game is a sausage fest
>"okay fine we'll add girls"
>generally agreed to be the worst season pass since launch and it's not even close
why does anyone ever listen to coomers?
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>>499573024
no one said any of this
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>>499572909
queen of cum passion
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>>499567945
I find them fun and cool looking even if they’re a bit one note
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>>499573190
i mean it's cool definitely, i just prefer sol pre sidewinder (and i guess post sidewinder in xrd as well)
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>>499573079
i said all three of those things though?
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>>499572909
This is the right version bro
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>>499573429
You're not people
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>>499572801
i told everyone season 2 was year of the cock and that season 4 would be year of the pussy but nobody believed me.
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>>499573791
Yeah, with me
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>>499573887
cool it with the homophobic remarks
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>>499572801
I'm giga tempted to buy this season but I know I'll not even touch venom
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>>499574403
>2 projectile set play rapists and 2 literally whos
what is sourcing this temptation
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>>499574403
buying the strive pass without seeing the gameplay is a horrible idea
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>>499573024
The problem is two non guilty gear characters. Newcomers are non guilty gear.
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>>499574882
Nta, but not much. I didn't regret almost any character
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>>499569005
narwhals narwhals, swimming in the ocean, causing a commotion
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>>499574870
Dizzy looks fun and every DLC newcomer has been jank kino.
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>>499573024
Strive is the least coomer oriented fg right now despite being anime i'm not even joking.
The token coomer character in sf is cammy she's the second most played character at all level after ken.
Token coomer character in Tekken is Reina she's in the top3 most played.
Token coomer characters in gb are divided between Narmaya, Metera, 2B, Zeta and some others. Narmaya is one of the most played despite being a game for homos.
Toke coomer character in GG are Ino and Millia, they are 2 of the least played character, Giovanna could be added as well but she's middle of the pack. Most played character are all men, Sol, Ky, Pot, Johnny, Slayer, Bridget.
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>>499575583
>grubble
>game for homos
oh i am laffin
you guys see the 10% audience of fujos being loud and think the game's not about boobies anymore
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>>499574882
The only season I regret is season 3, because with the except of Elphelt they all move funny. Unless Unika is actually the Justice function they should have regular movement.
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They call it a balance patch but where is the balance?
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COTW waiting room, it's all the wave.
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>>499575768
That is true but what is also true is that the top5 best character in that game are all fujobait gacha ikemens (Belial, Siegfried, Lucifer, Lancelot, Grimnir)
Even in Strive in comparison the top tiers are Bara characters like Sol, Slayer and GL.
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how do i get out of johnnys pressure
why is he guard crush character now
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>>499575583
>despite being a game for homos.
cmon man
you can do better than this
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>>499576032
They’re patching the balance but they’re making new holes to get the materials to patch it with
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>>499576878
As if it ever existed a patch that solved all the problems in a fg
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Can't wait for more dizzy fanart from the pregnancy fetish crowd
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>>499577340
I want. Exhibitionist Dizzy fanart.
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>>499576032
>hey let's make a trailer to get people hyped for the incoming nerfs
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>>499569005
Ky got pegged by that narwhal every night
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>>499576675
I know you're a /gbvsg/ tourist and it's not because that general is a waifufag AGPfest that Fukuhara isn't some disgusting homo fellow grubber.
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>>499578326
KI did it with Rash
technically it wasn't in the trailer itself but when they presented it they straight up said "We promised if we ever got to do another update we'd nerf the fucking frog so here you go"
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>>499576032
lmao if you target that for the present crowd at the event for sure.
Now if they aired a trailer showing Nago moving at half speed and dying if blood pop I garantee you every single pro player mocked here would have been masturbating on stream before organizing an orgy next local.
Even here everyone just complains, show me Anji nerfs and be sure I will hype post until the end of time this fucking game.
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>>499555242
what do you mean "excuses"? He's still top tier because the dev team clearly likes him as the favorite newcomer and akira "big body" katano plays him too. Should've figured this shit out years ago man, pick someone who can deal with him or quit whining bitch.
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>>499572193
Whole thing was funny as fuck to me. I loved the delivery of "The hormones appear to be working". His dry humor kills me every time.
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>>499578731
you must be a lost /gbfg/ schizo
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>>499556249
>Sandolphon
Sayonara FAGGOT
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Why don't my grab work and turn into dusts. I give the direction input as well then I just stand there doing a dust.
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never in my life have I been so anti-hype for an upcoming patch as I am now. looking at these absurd new cancels and combo boosts makes something sink in my chest. they really drive it home with that goldlewis clip too. yaaay what if he could like BT BT BT BT BT you're dead haha lol funny game oh by the way no updates for defense so have fun making one mistake into having to guess ten times correctly or else you die instantly. fuck this game.
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How do we protect Zappa's ghosts from their inevitable future?
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>>499581087
he's getting a complete rework and not even resembling his old gameplay design if he ever makes it in anyway
just say he made up with S-ko and she can be the black blob for him
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>>499581087
proud of this aren't you?
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Dizzy players are the most embarrassing group of mains in GG history
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I decided to come back to strive for the 4th time. but this time I will main a dlc character. which one is the most honest to play?
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>>499580906
i think these buffs would be hype if the cast had 3-10 times more health
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>>499582308
Testament
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>>499582208
Bridgets?
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>>499582308
hard to say with a patch coming soon, but right now it's Testament
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>>499580343
Then you do the dust. Dust dust is a link, you have to link it you can't just mash it. You have to use a little bit of skill like sf.
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>>499582208
>Xrd "baiken mains"
>Strive 1.0 Sol players who swore he wasn't OP just get good bitch
>quirky chungus Xrd Jack-O mains
>Bridget players, both before and after The Incident
There, several players more cringe than Dizzy players.
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>>499582208
nobody played dizzy in the old games
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>>499582308
Time to replay Kenshi.
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>>499571094
Why does clayton respond to every comment with 3 paragraphs
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>>499554434
It hurts to have lived long enough to see everything I enjoyed from the past get censored for a fickle audience that only cares about making everything gay.

No Dizzy in stripper wear, no Mai in her slutty ninja outfit not even as an unlockable alternative, Rouge the Bat isn't allowed to have cleavage anymore. It hurts man
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>>499582308
Sin Kiske
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>>499582650
Two of the biggest schizos to grace /ggg/ were both Dizzy avatarfags
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Why don't you like Aisha? is it because she's black?
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>>499583029
>pre Strive /ggg/
Who cares about a 10 man circle jerk general
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>>499583098
she belongs to slash and I respect that by trying to push her out of the public eye so he can disappear her into his home
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>>499580343
allow me to translate >>499582547

You're pressing the button too soon. You have to wait a little.
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>>499582650
imagine playing xrd jack-o holy shit
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>>499582208
I respect dizzy players because I have never seen one downplay their character
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>>499582705
it's copy pasted
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>>499583098
maybe its not her fault but the dlc tracks with her suck
having negro genes isnt great either
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>>499573024
>why does anyone ever listen to coomers?
This "coomer" said I'll buy strive at whatever price it's at when "Dizzy wearing her past outfit or something similar that gives me a boner" is in the game. "queen" dizzy is not showing any intimate skin, an ankle is only lewd to people who lived in the early 1900s and I don't do safe horny feet fetishes.
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>>499583098
Women REEEEEEEEEE
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>>499583098
To her credit Dizzy theme seem to her best track since Love the Subhuman Self.
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How do I block Milias hair tornado disks? I block high, I get comboed, I block low, I get comboed. They just spam this infinitely until i die.
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>>499584089
You can pay the deflect shield tax
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>>499583098
I like aisha
A lot
She might be the most beautiful woman in the world
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>>499583993
Not exactly difficult given Perfection Cant Etc is just annoying and The Entire Town Inside Me is barely a song.
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>>499583993
perfection can't please me is really good in an ironic sense.
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>>499584089
You EISENSTURM that bitch. Either she blocks or she doesn't. But at least that's only one layer of 50/50 and you're going to take a full combo anyway so there's nothing to lose.
>but I'm not playing a character with a DP
Skill issue
>but she's got those bullshit anti-DP mixes
Leave after the round is done and call him a fat nerd.
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>>499582650
tfw I got 1.5k hrs on xrd baiken/jacko
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>>499585310
Why?
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>>499585310
Gross
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Deflect Shield should really just be Blitz Shield except it costs 1/4 burst
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>>499583098
Defaulting female dlc characters to have AISHA themes because subhuman self and disaster of passion were hits proved to be idiotic pretty fast when perfection cant please me became the most hated Strive theme.
On the other hand the two best female characters themes are Baiken and ABA and were both sung by Naoki, aksiMolly mogged most AISHA other themes for Elphelt.
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Never forget what they took from you
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Watching the balance patch trailer, what exactly changed for Giovanna? Only thing seems to be the powered up version of 214k launches now.
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>>499586725
Something about her forward dash and 6HHH idk I play regular Chipp not Chipp with massive brown tits
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>>499586205
getting rid of character personality like slayer 6p is a bit lame yeah.
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>>499586725
en214k hkd
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I miss the slayer shrug
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>pressure ender
>pressure extender
>zoning projectile
>slow oki projectile
Let me guess, you need MORE?
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>>499587929
who are you describing?
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When support for strive stops, the game will completely die off while xrd will still have players
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Why didn't they bring this back and slap some teeth on her?
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>>499587929
What kind of cucked Strive character are you playing who has a pressure ender?
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>>499588137
yeah
... because the new game will heavily resemble strive as it now defines the entire series
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>>499588137
Nobody plays Xrd
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>>499588493
I have over 40 hours in xrd
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>Anji
>now you can fucking cancel fuujin on fuujin
>Axl
>uhhh you can 6K rensen I guess
lol lmao
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>>499587929
bedman except instead of pressure something he's got suicide
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>1 fish.
>hits once.
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Hag Dizzy
Hag Dizzy
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>>499588137
If I load up steamcharts right now I better see at least 100 players
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>14 year old rat girl has more setplay than the Queen of a whole nation who is also the Queen of gears
how did it come to this
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>the design changes actually make tons of sense since Dizzy has really developed as a person during the timeskip between Rev and Strive
>three weeks
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The balance patch changes kusogifying the game is a good thing. The more disappointing thing is that Dizzy doesn't look kuso enough.
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>>499588912
Uuuuh, what? Is this the right Xrd?
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>>499589049
one bad day is all you need...
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>>499589020
>universal meterless guard cancels
No amount of shitting on strive will convince me granblue has setplay
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Honestly, I think P5A will be my main game over Strive 2
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>>499589315
The animation?
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>>499589315
If it was ever going to happen it would've happened already bro. Give it up
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>>499589368
yeah. on repeat.
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>>499589517
That's not really a game then is it
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>>499589315
It was canned for Metaphor Re Fantarena bro
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>>499589049
>grew 18 years in 3 years
>Becomes a fine lady in 3 weeks
Unironically lines up just fine, try again lorelet
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>>499589315
God I hate PersonaTroons so much.
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>>499588738
It looked like there was a fish that went back and then forward along with normal fish. P and K I'm assuming.
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>>499588738
Guilty Gear Strive is a well designed fighting game, as such mixups are based on strike throw. Fish hitting once sets up a strike throw and that's all you need. Stop crying.
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>>499589659
bro, you play guilty gear
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But I liked the laser fish and the parry fish...
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>>499589850
Then play Xturd? WHAT is stopping you, you little cucked bitch nigga
>Verification not required.
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>>499590112
>WHAT is stopping you?
>>499589213
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>>499589020
Vikala is basically a projectile based Faust that also has Dizzy's fish.
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Have the youtube vultures all pounced on making a clean version of over nightmare yet
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>>499589740
people keep saying strive is strike/throw but then every character has 50 meter barely/unreactable overheads or even free with a little extremely basic setup
dizzy too, she's just going to tap dust into fish same as zato does with eddie
the thing strive removed isn't the mixups, it's no easier to block this shit Dizzy's old mix, it's about the complexity. Everything has to be one layer deep at most because stream watchers get confused by too many things happening at once and Strive is explicitly designed to be easy for streamboars that don't play to understand.
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>>499590112
>Then play Xturd?
maybe i will.
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>>499590602
>It's not any easier to block
>It's just easier to do and easier to understand what's going on
This is a bad thing because
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>one chance at life
>you're born a black blob with teeth
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>>499590602
>but then every character has 50 meter barely/unreactable overheads
what game are you playing? sounds fun.
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>>499591191
NTA but it's lame as hell
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>>499582705
I like it desu. Long winded, but feels like he's a real human being that you're having a conversation with.
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>>499591565
Why???
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I can't even begin to understand the thought process of someone who gives Goldlewis that buff. Maybe they're balancing the game wrong as a joke.
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>>499592052
LK said it was so he would stop using drones so much
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If your character got a clearly strong buff in the trailer, you better be preparing your anus for nerfs.

GL is either getting his security nerfed, or his combo routing will require behemoth canceling for a decent result (thereby taking away your drone)
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>>499591191
because it's boring, and removes a large element of knowledge and skill when every player of the character from floor 10 scrubs to the top players winning tournaments are doing the same canned 50/50s
Xrd and +r Dizzy can do some fucked up shit but beginners and intermediate and top players are doing very different levels of shit. Beginner Dizzys are stuck on layer one setplay and you can shut them down with Blitz and knowing when to jump and 6P the obvious airdashes, if they don't know the Blitz bait setups it swings the match massively in your favour, and if they do know them it adds a second layer of defensive RPS they have to play around, which brings it back into balance. Better players can fuzzy block/jump most of the level 1 stuff which swings the balance back in the defenders favour, until the Dizzy learns more advanced setups that cover that.
Newer players fighting newer players are on level 1 anyway, they have trouble defending against the basic setups and can't do the complicated mix, so the person that knows more and plays better is rewarded by having to guess less or forcing guesses more, and as they improve the defence and offence gets more complex in parallel.
Strive means everything above the complete beginner "still mashing randomly" level is doing the same setups with only small ability to affect their odds, low level players are hitting each other with the same 50/50s as the pros, with nothing really to learn to improve but get more consistent and make better reads, and all pros play basically the same 90% because the effective strategies are pre-baked and the decision space is much smaller.
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>>499593178
That whole explanation you gave sounds no different to a Strive interaction

It just sounds like you dont appreciate what the top level players are doing, and why they consistently win over weaker players
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dear katamo sama,
please give millia a normal throw range
thank you
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>>499591191
The same reason playing tic tac toe is boring as shit after a few rounds. Tic tac toe is a solved game, complexity makes games harder to solve and therefore allows weird stupid shit much more which is fun. I don't want to play fucking tic tac toe.
>>499594090
They win because almost no one below the pros puts in the reps to have their consistent "do this every game" formula. Pros even further put in the reps of "do this everygame against x character, this everygame against y character" and so on until they don't think literally at all about what they're doing just about what the other player's "I do this everygame" is and how to play around theirs.
When you see a pro dumpstering another pro its basically just that the other pro's "this everygame" is just worse than the others, whether it be because their character is just straight up better, or the x everygame is worse.
Shit is fucking boring when rounds last 10 seconds in strive and its almost the same round over and over and over.
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>499594762
Bruh
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I dunno. I barely play Strive anymore, and nothing about season 4 looks like it will change that.
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>>499594458
The first attractive depiction of millia in existence
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>>499594982
cmon hit me with the dunk I'd love to hear the counter, Though I'm NTA >>499593178
I should say
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>>499591908
No cool stuff is happening on screen
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>>499569679
>he doesn't call it turbulenz
you don't deserve to play leo
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Did they gut may mixup? Also looks like Rams flip is now an overhead, I guess 'cause japanese kept complaining it's hard for her to open people up
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>>499596767
Ram flip is an overhead because that's how it should be. All is now right in the world.
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>>499596195
>i'd rather play incomprehensible kuso slop than an actual intuitive kamige
mbtl and unist are right there
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>>499594458
please give nago a normal throw range too
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Johnny looking at the guilty gear fandom
>wait, its all girls?
Brisket appears behind him
>always was
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>>499597659
Based!!!
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>>499594762
Nah I'm a strive hater but there's still a lot of skill expression in the decision making and small optimizations the best players do, better players win neutral way more in every game, it's not 100% consistency I should have been a little more generous in >>499593178
but it is boring. They're doing all the same shit everyone is doing. Those hugeass Sol combos that do 90% would be sick as fuck in Xrd because they'd be really situational super optimized routes that you don't see every day, because most players simply don't know them or can't do them. In Strive they're barely out of beginner tier and so you see them constantly in netplay and it's just annoying when a high level match ends in 15 seconds because the Sol player got one real hit and did the same shit you've seen ten times in the last week. Nage did shit in Xrd that I'm pretty sure only happened one time, ever. It's not cool when Pot does Garuda>Garuda PRC Buster three times in a row for the round because it's the same shit every Pot at every level does because the most effective strategy is easy and simple and why do more complex shit when it's going to boil down to a 50/50 anyway? The simplest 50/50 is the most effective. That's why mix should be complicated, both to do and to defend, because being able to swing it away from 50/50 by knowledge and execution is where the skill is, and what makes it interesting. Guessing on its own is not interesting.

I should point out I don't think that makes Strive a bad game in a vacuum, it's just a bad anime game. Most fighting games work like that, at least in the last 10-15 years when execution hasn't been really gating people, Daigo does most of the same shit in SFV as random plat players, but anime games were generally very different before Strive came out.
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>granblue is completely reworking ranked matchmaking
>we're still trapped in the cuck tower
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>>499597659
omg xister I clapped so hard my dilator fell out!
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Why can't chuddies understand that character development inevitably leads to designs which are both less revealing black blobs which are easier to animate? Are they stupid?
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>>499598239
are you having a stroke mr falseflagger
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>>499598239
im a chuddie and im glad that dumb slut finally put some clothes on like a proper lady
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>>499598239
I may be stupid
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it just sounds like people don't want to admit fighting games are good since they are so reliant on frame data. as they grow in complexity they lose basically all intuitive play and it becomes running the numbers. its just probably a bad genre at this point
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>>499598037
Tower, genuinely, is better than any ranked mode.
Subverting the ranked system is incredible. Too bad that in this subversion of expectations by the developers, the players took it upon themselves to create a 3rd party ranking system.

We must reflect on ourselves, not blame the beasts. Playing fighting games free from the restraints of anyone's ego was eye opening. I'd never been less angry, nor communicated so much in a fighting game.
Training mode matchmaking was a mistake though.
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"Fighting games was a mistake." — Ishiwarita Daisuke
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>>499598995
>Playing fighting games free from the restraints of anyone's ego was eye opening.
Bro forgot park and lobbies exist
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>>499598015
fair point on the skill expression, I may have been unfair/wrong not considering the neutral aspect. It is just harder to feel really excited about it when so many matches feel like they're decided in 2 or 3 neutral interactions in Strive.
>Nage
Yeah this is why I'm the most jaded these days with Strive. I used to be in fucking love with Faust in xrd and felt like there was always something new I could experience literally every round with him. In general Xrd felt like each round had something exciting at least once.
That combo for example on Raven is particularly exciting to me not just because of the optimization but because Raven has the one of the lowest stun thresholds in Xrd, and Flowers do a fuckton of stun so that Raven was one solid hit or hammer away from getting stunned which it was fun to keep track of stuff like that too
I'm dumping a fuckton of words but man I just miss that kind of design for fighting games, fuck off anyone who says to "just play it" you know its not the same.
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>>499596906
Xrd is incomprehensible to you...? Really?
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>>499592830
now this is what we call cope
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>>499600013
Honestly I'm glad games like that died
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>>499561508
sol has always had to do strike throw
just throw him out of fafnir
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SNEED I SENT YOU A FUCKING MESSAGE ON TWITTER FUCKING RESPOND, MAN
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>>499586205
I can always turn on xrd and play her again, I don't see the problem
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sneed rapes kids
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>>499598015
isnt this the nigga who is going grubbing with the rat?
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I know I said this before, but I see no difference between a floor 10 and top player playing the game
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>>499588137
>xrd still have playeahahahahahahaha
ahahahahah sure, bud :')
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>>499603263
you clearly haven't seen me play before then
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>>499602752
If they look like this, can you really blame me?
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>people always say May in strive is a defensive character
>look at top level players
>they just bum rush the other player the entire time, with the occasional back dash into 5H/5K
I dont get it
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>>499603478
I wonder how long Dizzy looked like this
maybe a week?
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>>499589315
Honestly, I prefer to stick to Strive and its retarded patch rather than playing a game with a fuckface character like that
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>>499603635
Then for a week she was the sexiest woman alive
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I know I said this before, but I see no difference between UMISHO's asspussy and Razzo's axe wound
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>>499603767
Yeah, I'd burn both too
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Do you guys think the tightrope will make chipp a worthy opponent? I haven’t checked in on this game for awhile but I remember seeing people say that he is worse cause of dp changes and that he requires more interactions to kill someone so he gives them burst back faster.
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>>499603896
yeah, burn both due to excessive friction using my penis
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>>499603767
>Razzo's axe wound
did he actually go through with it?
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>>499586131
I was expecting Molly infact for dizzy
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>>499604145
Ewwww tranny-kun ewwww! Ewwww!
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>>499592830
they can't nerf sin any further without having to gut his damage, which they won't do bc lol? I'm assuming he's getting giga buffed
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I'm THIS close to my elo goal before the patch
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>>499604773
same, i'm almost at 1500 >_<
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A9MmQ6UhszQ
Thoughts on Awe of She vocal?
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Posting sleepy Ragna to remind you that he should've been announced for strive instead of Lucy and because I overslept
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My favorite thing about Ky is how everything in his kit fucking sucks (besides 5k)
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>>499606207
ragnabro, I've learned more about blazblue, and I must say... my opinion remains the same, any other character would be more interesting
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>>499606832
236K?
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>>499606832
have you tried not using cse in neutral and using f.s/5h/6h more
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>>499607073
I understand you, anon. Seeing Terumi, Hakumen or Arakune in strive would be more interesting than Ragna, but on the other hand, I just want to see that man get a happy ending I mean lorewise. I know strive is a stinky doodoo game, but that man got literally erased at the end of BlazBlue's story. I just want to see him alive and happy :(
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>>499607369
cope strawman
>5h in neutral
>6h in neutral
what is this, floor 9?
do you play against lobotomites that can't react and punish 40fr moves?
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>>499605225
I prefer it not vocal
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>>499554434
>>499534439
Lobby's closed.
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>>499607717
He lived as an edgelord and "died" as an edgelord I think he got a perfect ending in that sense
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>>499608401
I mean, he wasn't really an edgelord. Sure, he looks like one, but he actually is very kind. He just was born into the world that hates him
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how long am i going to have to wait for the barefoot dizzy mods?
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>>499609376
alright chatsisters, will it dilate
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Does anyone have a list of the known balance changes shown off? im having a bit of trouble figuring out what changed for a lot of the characters.
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>>499610286
Yeah
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>>499601553
Theyre alive and well, Deadlock for example. People crave complexity, you just have to make it palatable.
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>Elphelt can now combo into the worst overdrive in the game and she still can be air thrown out of grenade setup after wall break making the setup whiff due to throw animations being invulnerable
lol, lmao even
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>>499610664
mind sharing, lad?
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>>499609376
good post
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WHAT THE FUCK DO YOU MEAN THE STRONG CHARACTERS GET TO BE EVEN STRONGER AND THE STRUGGLING CHARACTERS GET NOTHING??? ARE YOU FUCKING SERIOUS ARCSYS??? I WILL FUCKING COME FOR YOU ARCSYS
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>>499611423
Now with that attitude, Akuma Karen
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Why am I not surprised Strive lovers also love SF6 too. Not that surprising that 2 of the worst modern Fighting Games that also ruined the current gen of fighters and will sadly ruin/influence future ones has overlap.
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>>499611423
>Nago gets insane reward, even more damage and complete resource reset by confirming pop near a wall
>Axl gets 6K Rensen
DID U RIKE IT?
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>>499610859
is it even still a grab? or did it get changed to a hit-grab
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she looks retarded, but i like her fuckhuge god eater sword
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>>499611026
No.
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>>499564461
they cant save this character
>ueeeueeee ram is OP!!!
grow up nigga
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Why do you fags even pretend to dislike Strive? You know you're gonna be here until the next one.
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What the absolute fuck did they do to Dizzy's design? Besides covering her up, they even nerfed her boob size. Did something change with the design team between Baiken and this? Did Americans take over the company?
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>>499614559
I took over the company and I gave them the specific directive to Destroy All Beauty. I also told them to let Anji cancel Fujin into itself
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>multiple gay men
>no hot dykes
what did daisuke mean by this?
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>>499614680
May and Bridget :3
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>>499614490
I like Strive, but hate the direction it's taken.
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>>499614731
twittergays need to stop shipping characters with literally no interactions just because they're both moeblobs
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>what are you talking about? none of the male characters look gay in stri- hmmm well....
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>>499614559
dude have you ever seen a woman with clothes on? you know that you will never see the shape of their breasts unless the clothes are really tight, right anon? you DO interact with the outside world, right?
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>>499614974
>have you ever seen a woman with clothes on?
only without
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>>499614784
They did interact and also the daisuke bridget + may art is pretty sexy, i want may to suck his dick
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>>499614974
This is bait
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>>499615135
why isnt may black here? why did they witewash her?????

seriously though, why do twitter niggas like to make may black but then get enraged when you whitewash a character ingame with an alternative color?
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>>499615308
Because Twitter
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>>499615286
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gZ5YyPqiAYU

A chair... In your heart?
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>>499615286
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>>499615308
stop pretending you don't know the answer
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>>499616086
i dont, i asked one of them and they started babbling about racism but im not sure thats the real reason
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Who will be the season 5 guest characters?
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>>499617452
>characterS
2B, Saber, and the knight from for honor
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Would I even be playing this game by season 5?
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>>499617674
you said this same thing in season 2
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>>499617632
>knight from for honor
I would like Black Prior with the flip
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>>499617739
Season 3 actually.
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>>499614490
I don't hate it but I like +r and Xrd more. I mostly play strive whenever a friend wants to run some sets
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>>499596767
It seems like they buffed the dolphin cancel
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>>499588705
>axl
>you can do the thing you used to be able to do at launch for 2 years before we patched it out randomly
axl is not a real character
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sin bros... are we at least as good as we were before the DP nerf?
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>>499619119
Maybe in a dragon ball way, sure
But in relation to the rest of the cast? We can't say. Buffs look like a big deal though
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>>499618728
nah, if split can ONLY go as far as it's shown in the trailer it's really fucking bad. she loses all her mix and disgusting oki stuff.
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>>499614649
Nigga just throw him
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>>499619842
Maybe the distance is adjustable now
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Did smtn changes in aba/bridget moveset? Can't see difference :(
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>>499620483
i believe bridget can adjust her launch angle, and i think ABAs DP now ground bounces (not sure if it did before or not)
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>>499617452
Frieren, Denji, Marcille Donato and Shin Kamen Rider
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>and i think ABAs DP now ground bounces
It always did
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>>499620728
Tokusatsu is too kino for Strive
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>>499620728
>Frieren
we already have an op mage and knowing arcsys they'd probably add übel instead just because
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>>499620728
>Frieren
Makes too much sense in a world that uses magic.
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>>499620728
I can't even begin to explain how badly I want a sentai/rider inspired character in GG
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>>499620714
>>499620950
it seems danzai now has more armorframes at startup
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>>499621290
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>>499621435
shut up nigga
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>>499621290
based may lee enjoyer
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Fuckin starter guide when? It's 24 October already
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>>499621474
Shut up unigga
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>>499621538
who cares? if it drops right now or a day before dizzy not like your peanut brain is gonna learn anything from it
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>>499621538
>starter guide in a monotone voice
>dizzy can summon one fish
>the fish hits once
>thank you for watching
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>>499621538
its still september in france
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>>499621435
>sees goggles
>calls it sentai
I hate zoomers
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>>499621676
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>>499621676
what will you do if it hits twice
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>>499620714
Looks that bridget rolling trajectory is not straight anymore, but parabolic. This consent her to avoid normals or other stuff and being a lot less risky to do.
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>>499621797
Nerf it
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>meanwhile, nu-kamen riders
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>>499621881
i look like that
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>>499621804
>Looks that bridget is not straight anymore
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>>499621640
Nice answer, dude. You must be very strong, can you tell me which of these trannies are you?
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>>499621797
He'll commit sudoku for the embarassment
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>>499622335
>goes out of his way to look for furry tranny tournaments
Was it mental illness?
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If you spend less time talking about the game and play it, you'll feel a lot better bro. It's like a whole new world. Not a single thought about trannies ever.
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>>499622434
Oh no, don't get me wrong, you gave a tranny retarded answer, so I thought you were a top tier tranny at least.
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>>499621881
crazy to think ex aid is almost a decade old. i stopped watching after ghost/amazons

w > amazons > kuuga > kabuto > drive > gaim > wizard > ryuki > the rest of the heisei shit > fourze
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>>499622335
>>499622619
holy esl
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>>499622153
Jam would have?
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>>499622808
cope
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Just play the game and get off twitter. I promise you'll feel better mentally. Not a single thought about transwomen trust.
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>>499621640
uuuh I just want see the moves, duh? tf is your problem lol
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GREEDO SEVA WHEN WE WERE SUPPOSED TO GET A NEW MOVE IN S3
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>>499623851
ky too honest for that
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>>499596767
if you actually watch the trailer, youd see that rams combo is gray because the sin just released block. neither the flip from above, nor the sword coming straight down from above, nor the sword smash from above, nor the double sword slash from above will ever be overheads, despite visually being so
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>>499624123
>ever
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>>499614559
nu Guilty Gear fans seem to have been vocal enough about toning down the fanservice that ArcSys is taking it into account when putting out new designs. The fighting game genre is full of bleeding heart libs as it is, and GG has gotten the wokest fans of them all, unfortunately. So weird how the liberals used to be all about sex positivity and feeling free to show your body off, but now they want the sexiness toned down in everything. And conservatives are the ones complaining about them doing that. We're in fucking bizzaro world now.
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>>499624562
flip having been an overhead when it was like 40f and being worse than charged dust doesnt mean shit
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>>499622981
>close twitter
>open game
>standby for match
>bridget player
>free comment: TRANS RIGHTS!!
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>try to punish a blocked keygrab
>2P into keygrab
What the fuck?
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>>499627097
Just skip them until you find a non retarded bridget player
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>>499626806
it existed so your post gets a C for inaccuracy
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Do you think that the shiny wing are a overdrive or a special move?
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>>499627097
she wants to be white so bad
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>>499628351
wings*
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>>499628351
probably an install overdrive like jack o servant stuff
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>>499628351
it's....you don't wanna know
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>>499628351
Could be neither, like Gio's passive meter bonus
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>>499628618
Uhuh an install overdrive that buffs dizzy's moves and progressively consumes the life of the opponent if them gets inside the radius of the aura. Nasty
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it's her NTR bar
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>>499629138
When it reaches the 100% dizzy performs a fullscreen grab, it's inevitable. She uses the opponent to cuck Ky, the match ends with the opponent sorrounding.

*This grab doesn't work only with Ky.
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>>499627416
>try to punish a blocked keygrab
It’s +2, my guy
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>>499628351
They gave her Izanami's ribcage, but it drains tension which is why she only has 1 super
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>>499629769
I hate this character so much
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>>499611746
It's a hitgrab iirc
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>>499630741
so she could always combo into it then? then what was new in that trailer i thought that was the point
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>>499630842
It's not a hitgrab, anon is fucking retarded
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>>499631054
yea thats what i thought
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4 years later and half the thread is still nothing but discord raiders screaming about woke
Why do I even post here
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>>499596767
>Rams flip is now an overhead
>now
Always has been.
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>>499632529
lol no
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>>499615135
They didn't interact in any canon stories, Daisuke didn't have any involvement in the AC shit stories.
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man I want to play 1.4 Goldlewis now waiting sucks :(
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>>499635528
Yeah, I don't feel to open the game now because of this new patch, I'd rather wait until the release at this point
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why is this bitch aba so polarizing
>axl, chaos, jacko, testament, bridget, johnny, nago, anji
i get raped by these chars and i rape all the others ones
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wallbounce fafnir makes much more sense than groundbounce fafnir
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>>499637151
i'm still morally opposed to sol having anything good
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>>499637151
in S5 it will be like pile bunker
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Why wouldn't Dizzy have normal Fish if I-No gets to have Note and Note cancels?
>le... soive
Are people really this stupid?
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>>499638018
What are you trying to say bud?
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>>499638018
Who did you call soive, fuckface?
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>>499585602
baiken is cool
jacko is very unique and a nice change of pace. situational servant combos are very satisfying to do
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any woivers in this thread?
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>>499640614
No I mean why put 1500 hours into Xrd
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>>499642875
I just like fighting games. Now that I think of it Xrd -Sign was the first fighting game I played with the intention of getting gud
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haven't been here in a few years. anyone want to play +r here or do i have to go to discord for that?
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>pot buster has armor now
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>>499644263
>Fabbed
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Get Over Nightmares is the best soive track since Crawl.
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I want patch notes
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I'm a woman.
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I am smart
I am loved and worthy
I belong here
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I AM ALL OF ME
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I'm sexy and i know it
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I will strive-ify your infant wife
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>>499647209
You'll make her black blob loli with ugly teeth?
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finna meaty narwhal
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>pot buster has armor now
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>>499650634
It’s gear acceptance propaganda
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>>499650921
so will she host a nationwide gear girl gangbang to help smooth out the relationships between humans and gears?
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>>499650634
>black blob with teeth
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>>499651561
it can't be...
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>>499650793
They better revert hammerfall hard knockdown I swear to God
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>Boot up Strive
>Lab some shit I'm probably gonna forget in like three days
>Play in the park for an hour
>Win some lose some
>Play in the tower for an hour
>Win some lose some
>Get bored
>Quit game
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>>499653210
What did you lab?
Did you force it in park?
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>>499653210
Strive is not designed for long sessions. Don’t be so dramatic
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>Chipp puts down a wire and fucking sprints at you upside down
what do?
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>>499656740
hawk tuah baker
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>>499656740
collect my free trade bombo
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>>499655271
>Strive is not designed for long sessions
Says you. I fucking hate it when people I play with leave after only 2 hours
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>>499654887
Stuff to help against Chipp since I always get raped by Chipp.
>Did you force it in the park
There were no Chipps.
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>>499657030
People say this MU is Chipp favored but I always get my ninja bussy brolapsed
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>>499657472
use more 5Ps
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>>499657472
5p more
You're probably losing from your own offense by going for some dumb shit
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daisuke press upload on the character breakdown thanks
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>>499655271
>Strive is not designed for long sessions.
What the fuck does that even mean
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>>499627097
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>>499659334
>#1 ranni consort
I have to kill him
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>>499658608
>losing from your own offense by going for some dumb shit
Damn bro no need to insult literally every last Chipp player I've fought
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>>499659310
Previous GG games were a lot like edging maxxing a goon sesh to the gyatt of your favorite rizzhog. Now with Strive it's a lot more like edging out to some ohio bussin before you get bedpilled and mog any sigma status you felt like you had.
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>>499659334
Hey I've fought that guy, he fucking sucks
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>>499627097
>>499659334
Every trans rights player I've fought has been dogshit
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>>499660437
I haven't seen a single one yet but I play on EU
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What does it mean to lack "the gene"?
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>>499661032
Cope for people too stupid to lab shit.
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>>499659310
you strike and throw
close the game
come back next week and do it again
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>>499661032
how is this meme still alive its been 3 years
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>>499661459
Actually, I high and I low.
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>>499662175
>3 years
Based newcutie
>>499661459
Actually, I drink a bloodpack and ungabunga my way to victory
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>>499661032
the only gene you need is the labbing gene, most people do not like labbing so they blame everything else besides their lack of love for learning.
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>>499662659
>Based newcutie
how old is it then
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>>499554434
Rev 2 lobby is up.
Name: gilly gear.
Password: no pass.
Lobby connection req: 2 or greater.
Hosted in: NA west coast.
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I'm coming from granboo as my first fighter
how do i properly get into a character? what are like the first boxes you tick when going about learning one
I'm trying Elphelt and I'm a bit confused as to why none of the punch/kick/slash/heavy combo into eachother.
Do you only do it with certain skills? like slash > 236H for the gun shot?
Should the average unga brainlet combo without RC only be like 2-4 hits?
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>>499663049
don't you get tired of this shit?
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patch notes doko...
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>>499663136
When trying to get into elphelt I find its usually best to start by putting on your cutest wig and shoving a buttplug up your ass. Nothing too big, but enough to make moving in your gamer chair a little titillating.
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>>499663136
Go to their dustloop, check the combo pages for a BnB
If you're completely new to GG there's a tutorial that's pretty good. It'll explain basic system mechanics like RCs and the gatling system
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>>499663286
don’t you get tired of cleaning your axe wound?
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>>499662831
Geneless post
If you truly had the gene you wouldn't need to lab at all
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>>499663136
>why none of the punch/kick/slash/heavy combo into eachother
Because the game has no autocombos outside of the very gimped gatlings
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>>499663136
strive gutted gattlings cause the average player cannot comprehend them
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>>499663136
depends on the character but mostly the starter, getting a c.S hit or whatever your character's launcher is usually allows you to get some normals >special then pick up with something else, for elphelt you're meant to start big combos with 2h I think, check the dustloop for combos, elphelt's dustloop is actually pretty good
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>>499663136
slash heavy slash special cancel
kick 2D special cancel
punch 6X special cancel (sometimes link into close slash)
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>>499663136
>I'm coming from granboo as my first fighter
>going from GODblue to soive
What a horrible decision. You've met with a terrible fate.
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>>499663452
how would shoving something up my ass make me better at the game
>>499663647
>>499663698
>>499663782
>>499663828
I will check out dustloop but I think I'll just learn some simple things and play and try them out to see what works
Wouldn't slash > special also be a gattling? just a different flavour of it
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>>499664007
worked for umisho
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>>499664007
gatlings are just guilty gears version of magic series, what made them special was that they were character specific in older games but for the most part followed the same structure of lowest level attack to highest level without going backward. strive just makes everything universal cause it's a gay baby game.
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>>499664007
>Wouldn't slash > special also be a gattling?
No, gatlings mean specifically canceling normals into eachother. slash > special is just a normal special cancel
>>499664140
QRD?
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>>499663996
Soive has 5000 players average + massive kino patch coming + dizzy my new wife
Granblue has 50 during peak at most if it's raining outside during the winter and another corona lockdown is initiated
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>>499663136
You'll like Xrd more
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>>499664007
A special cancel and a gatling are functionally pretty similar in that you're cancelling the recovery of a normal into a different move, but usually you differentiate between the two.
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>>499664250
We don't play that crap here.
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>>499664354
I do
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>>499664187
The older games had character specific gatlings? That sounds really annoying lol
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>>499664354
Where is the Strive lobby, sis?
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>>499664445
it really isn't
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>>499664445
for the first few sessions maybe or trying to go from character to character without much play.
Once you know, you know
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>>499664445
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>>499664445
NTA but it's a lot more simple than I think you're assuming, it feels intuitive once you learn what each character's normals are
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>>499664250
I don't think a game needs long combos, but focus more on fun combos with unique ways to execute them based on character that sets them apart. This "uniqueness" or rather what a character can't do as opposed to what they can will make for fun interactions between different characters if they all have their ups and downs
I imagine long combos are just going to be the same as granblues except harder to execute (something that gets simply nullified by time) and I can see it getting tedious over time both to execute and to be on the recieving end
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>>499664445
based
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>>499664768
Is this a copypasta?
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Who should I play instead of Elphelt?
Who is "Guilty Gear: the character" that isn't ky or soul
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>>499664768
guilty gear is a game that has long combos but it's not a game where you are mostly doing long combos, it's on the shorter side for the most part.
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>>499664950
>Who is "Guilty Gear: the character" that isn't "Guilty Gear: the character"
I dunno, play A.B.A anyway
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>>499664950
slayer embodies Guilty Gear -STRIVE- better than any other character
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>>499664768
>I don't think a game needs long combos, but focus more on fun combos with unique ways to execute them
yeah thats literally guilty gear
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>>499664817
So much this. I hecking hate homework when I could be getting gaped >:(
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>>499664916
Did I say something wrong?
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>>499665285
Exactly
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>>499665318
The average /ggg/tard can't comprehend posts longer than 2 sentences
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>>499664950
johnny probably
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>>499665285
dilate more lil nigga
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If your fighter can't be learned by simply playing, it's not a good fighter
Simple as
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>>499665589
so all fighting games are bad?
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>>499665589
name 5 fightans that do this
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Which character would prepare me for my hardswap to Justizzy
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>>499664950
Jack-O'
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>>499665812
probably jacko
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>>499665719
no, you can learn divekick by simply playing
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>>499664950
slayer or may
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>>499645603
I love that it doesn't have the Daisuke-mandated soft part
Now we just need him to write a single lyric that isn't about being happy, moving forward or believing in yourself and we'll have a stew going
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>>499665719
>>499665772
GGXRD
Granblue
For Honor
Streetfighter 4, 5 & 6
Mortal Kombat(Any)
Smash bros
Tekken8
Skullgirls
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>>499665589
Intuitive design is a meme principle. Handicap toilets are not meant to be enjoyed
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>>499584089
https://youtu.be/2zav84olTwE?t=251
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>>499666143
i unironically agree that guilty gear (xrd and +r) are some of the most intuitive fgs to learn ever
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>>499584089
you play against old gg millia and become a reaction gawd, alternatively you can play against rachel alucard players and try to react to her instant overhead.
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>>499664916
Yes, you sound retarded and started going off about a single random aspect of a game you clearly don't know anything about to the point it seems like you're responding to the wrong post. Go back to Granblue you literal retard.
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>>499666557
Sin-coded post
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>>499666137
Life is a gift. Cope
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>>499666143
>GGXRD
WRONG
>Granblue
IDK
>For Honor
true....
>Streetfighter 4, 5 & 6
WRONG
>Mortal Kombat(Any)
perhaps
>Smash bros
true....
>Tekken8
WRONG
>Skullgirls
IDK
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Nothing like grabbing someone after they hit me with a shallow lv1 jump normal
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>>499667231
das gawdlike
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I need help with the impossible finding a pic because you can't find shit on twitter.
It was a black and white drawing of Sol crouching with very heavy shading. The twitter handle was something like Uncle. I remember it being posted in the general back in the Xrd days like 2018. Hoping he didn't delete his account.
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>>499667231
>my j.s gets blocked on the way down
>forget I'm fighting faust
>he grabs me like the silly bitch I am.
Sometimes I miss Street Fighter where doing that would be suicide
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>>499667427
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I think I'll just shove a dildo up my ass and play Elphelt
Give it to me straight is she good
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>>499666143
have you fucking played skullgirls, undizzy as a mechanic is fucking retarded and warrants the most unhinged mixups you will ever see in a fighting game to get around it.
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>>499666143
>>499666261
What's even the point of lying about this?
>Xrd and +R are intuitive to learn
Would not survive the first 30 seconds of actually booting the game up.
Are you just that confident that nobody has played them? Is that it?
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I got Strive.. It opens without an epic opening, instead a EULA.. bland gacha game menu screen.. music is less cool than previous ggs.. UI is kind of uncool..

But I had fun in a way it actually annoys me a bit. Feels great to play.
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>>499668745
they are, they are easy to mash in, the system mechanics (outside of literally slashback) are easy to learn and very easy to understand what they do at a glance, combos aren't long for the most part. you can learn guilty gear by just playing it.
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>>499668738
She's pretty mid tier, at least until next thursday
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>>499668910
I think you're completely blinded by your familiarity. Xrd and +R have quite possibly THE most well-earned reputation in fighting games for being impenetrable for a reason
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>>499668738
She only becomes bad after you reach celestial
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>>499668831
strive's single greatest strength is the fact that it feels good to just fuck around in, no matter what the soiveposters say
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>>499668910
You're fucking crazy. FRCs are an entirely arbitrary frame count with no visual indicator that you HAVE to just grind out and are incredibly vital on a lot of the cast. Like try doing anything as May without 25bar and hours of muscle memory.
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>>499668918
>>499669186
Are dildoriders eating well on thursday?
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>1 fish.
>hits once.
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>>499669194
>vital for most of the cast
>picks the 1 of 2 characters that needs it for their simple bnb combo
no, frcs are STRONG but you can learn them over time and the majority of the characters in the game don't fucking need them to do simple bnbs.
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>>499669394
You can learn everything over time in every fighting game
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>>499666143
extremely based and occult knowledge pilled post
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>>499669094
>>499669194
you guys are equating a game being hard to master to mean the game is not intuitive to learn. someone can pick up guilty gear and learn how the game functions by just playing it, that doesn't change the fact the games are hard to master overall.
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>>499669626
And I'm telling you +R and Xrd are NOT intuitive to learn by any stretch of the imagination. Even if you ignore the points about FRC, Xrd YRC by itself is extremely clunky to do stuff with until you get used to it and it's ALSO clunky to play against once you're playing people who know how to use it
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Who gives a fuck?
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>>499669980
Yeah, we don't play that shit here anyway.
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>>499670080
I do
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>>499669980
*fucks your ass*
Happy now?
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>>499669728
idk what to tell you, frcs being hard doesn't mean they are not intuitive, someone will understand their use by looking at them whether they can do it or not. intuitive does not = ease of use. it's the understanding of somethings use and why you would use it. you literally have to bring up niche cases like may where this character NEEDS to use HHD to do anything combo wise.
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>>499670271
Get this gay ass nigger out of here
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>>499669249
i give it one week of playing against slayer before you beg for Belial's cock back
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>>499670476
>>499669728
i would also say yrc is less intuitive because it's so free and not strictly tied to (most) moves despite it being easy to perform. making it less obvious why or when you would use it.
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>>499670476
I would like you to tell me why you think perennially <200 playercount games that are infamous for being nearly impossible to get into are somehow secretly super intuitive and easy to pick up beyond "dude just trust me bro"
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>>499671213
why do you rate games by how many cocks you want to roleplay youre being fucked by
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>>499671213
is brawlhalla the greatest fighting game ever made?
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>>499671832
What does that have to do with what I posted
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>>499671645
just soivers things
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>>499671213
because i'm looking at the game and it's sytems for what they are instead of picking and choosing them in a vacuum and pretending games are not the sums of their parts. guilty gear is ultimately a simple game to pick up, mechanics at a base line are fairly simple to see what they do at a glance and combos are not hard to mash out + the gatling system allows players to explore what they can and can't do by literally just mashing. that doesn't take away that guilty gear is a game with an extremely high skill ceiling, the mechanics being pretty simple and the characters being so varied allows more interactions to flourish more so than a lot of other fighters, but that doesn't mean the game isn't intuitive, for the most part (and OBVIOUSLY the games are not perfect there will be times where things don't make sense) when you see shit happening you are able to understand why. guilty gear is fucking hard and the skill ceiling being so high creates a gigantic disparity between new and experience players but that does not mean the games are not intuitive, discouraging is the word youre looking for.
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Guilty Gear X was literally the best performing arcade game in its launch year but yeah those japs got totally filtered by it
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>>499672380
I can accept that we might be operating under different definitions of the word intuitive and that might be driving the disconnect between our stances, but I still think that Xrd and +R having things like unique character weighting, divergent gatling tables, let along the mechanical complexity that comes with FBs/FRCs or YRC/Blitz make them unintuitive games to learn. I also COMPLETELY disagree with the idea that "when you see shit happening [in older games] you understand why", as one of the biggest problems identified in both +r and Xrd is that they're nigh incomprehensible visually. And that's not just my opinion, that's something that was reaffirmed repeatedly during interviews describing the decisionmaking process in Strive's development. You might argue that they went to far the other direction- I even agree, to a certain extent- but It's a fact that those games are not easy to understand whether you're watching or playing.
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>>499672943
wordswordswords just call him a fag and tell him to dilate, we got setups to lab
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>>499673182
I don't mind talking about stuff like this, it beats the fuck out of retards saying "dilate soiver"
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>>499671213
league pulls a bazillion players yet requires you to learn five billion things
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The game doesn’t spoonfeed me to sacrifice pawns
0/10
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>>499669626
Bro if you just want to mash buttons like a retard with your frat bros then any fighting game is easy to get into, because it's entirely inconsequential.
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>>499673540
t. Kingambit
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>>499672943
LOL this guy actually wanted to talk about the games.
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Also I guess I should clarify on what I mean by intuitive, too
I think a game that's intuitive is one where you spend a proportionally small time "fighting your hands" during the learning curve.

>>499673353
I haven't played League of Legends in almost fifteen years but when I did play it, it did a very good job on quickly teaching players on how to do things like laning, ganking, teamfighting etc. Since you only had four spells + summoners (plus maybe item actives) there was a very low level of mechanical investment to clear to become at least competitive
Of course it wasn't all good, as disproportionately weighted roles meant some players could end up "carried" despite not understanding high end concepts. But that's another conversation altogether
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>>499672943
>but I still think that Xrd and +R having things like unique character weighting
but when you see your combo dropping because the female character is more floaty than fat ass potemkin you should (if youre not retarded) completely understand why and will prompt people to try something different, a better examples than character weights is combos dropping because of retarded hitboxes like +r a.b.a, that is strictly not intuitive because it doesn't make sense and is only because of something you cannot see or feel
>divergent gatling tables
unless you are constantly switching characters i do not see how this is a problem, if you are defending the gatlings someone has doesn't matter to you personally, you will just know what buttons they will be pressing from what because that's how their character works, you are not thinking
>ky is going to do c.s > 6k > f.s
or whatever the fuck because you studied his gatling tables, he's going to do that pressure sequence because that what ky does and you will specifically have an answer for it. you are acting like gatlings are figuring out melty blood rebeat pressure when it's not
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>>499673917
If you simplify it that far down than no fighting game has complexity because you can easily explain mechanics in two to three sentences. The problem is in application, where if you're playing against Pot and your combo is fine and then you play vs Jam and suddenly nothing is working is the opposite of intuitive because it required prior preparation just to engage with the game at the most basic level. Which is literally the opposite of what intuitive means
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>>499673917
Dude the difference in falling speed based on character weights is so microscopic that you'd have to be some sort of genius to conclude that something is fucky. I'd also imagine that the average human would assume that a combo'd Pot would be easier to hit because he's fucking massive.
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SHUT THE FUCK UP AND CONTINUE DOOMPOSTING YOU FUCKING RETARDS
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>>499674327
Just realized I wrote opposite of intuitive twice so I'm gonna kms kms myself
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>>499674327
>Which is literally the opposite of what intuitive means
something requiring prior preparation doesn't mean it's not intuitive though... thats literally how Nintendo taught people how to fucking jump in mario, putting a pitfall and a goomba at the start of 1-1 is an obstacle most people back in the were expected to die too to learn how the game worked.
>>499674465
>Dude the difference in falling speed based on character weights is so microscopic
it genuinely really isn't
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ok im liking elphelt
im coming for you
give me a week
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>>499663049
Sorry guys, something happened to electricity.
Lobby's back up.
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>>499674850
>it genuinely really isn't
In the heart of the fucking moment when you've hopped straight into matchmaking because you don't need even a moment of training mode because +r is just that intuitive?
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>>499675641
>In the heart of the fucking moment
what the fuck do you mean the heat of the fucking moment, youre going to be noticing this after attempting to combo said character you are going to start wondering why it works for 1 but doesn't work for the other which will prompt you to try something different. the person you are creating for this scenario is literally just bashing their head at a brick wall doing the same thing over and over despite it not working, it's the equivalent of someone that refuses to pull down to control their spray in csgo.
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>>499674850
I think intuitive means someone can tell you something once and thats enough
like IBing Leo's in Xrd
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>>499674465
Juggling big guys because you hit them is not logical. That would be like being confused that you can’t juggle dumbbells just because you touched them
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>>499674959
>im liking elphelt
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>>499676134
at a baseline you can do this for almost everything in guilty gear though lmao, they still need to put in the time to apply it but you can some up a lot of things in guilty gear in 1 sentence that most people will get.
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>>499676023
Bro your imaginary person who thinks to themselves "hmm that combo against the Potemkin I played earlier didn't work; surely this is the result of gravity, next time I shall magically know somehow without googling it to change my entire combo routing against big body characters" is so far from any real fighting game player. You're talking about pros who will go back and study their losses, not Jimmy Normalguy that just wants to play a few rounds of fighting game after work/school.
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anime games and non-anime are intuitive in different ways
some people click with dash and mash movement and read heavy scramble situations and they pick up games like Xrd and +r quickly, they might drop combos a lot and have no idea how defence works but they can IAD at you when they know you're not ready and intuitively understand what buttons to hit when after a little experience. These people like not having to worry too much about framedata or specific spacing, on block they frametrap by delaying a gatling or committing to a special they can just RC if it doesn't land. They can often steal games from better players by forcing scrambles and punishing mistakes, dropped combos just become another opportunity for running DP and if they get thrown out of their misspaced meaty three times that just means they fourth one they hard bait by run up neutral jump will land so even if they're still not interacting with a lot of mechanics they feel like the game was really easy to pick up and start playing. There's enough options that they feel like they have an option for everything they want to do even if they're not using all the options they could be.

SF type games are much simpler so they're more intuitive for others. You have your gameplan, you push this button when they're at that range, you fireball and DP if they jump, you jump if they fireball, you have your pressure button that's plus and you frametrap after it by pressing your fast button, and on oki you either meaty or throw or bait the DP and after you've got that down you know everything you need, there's a couple system mechanics to learn but they're generally simple and you start interacting with basically every option besides some advanced OSs and shit at a relatively early level, after a much shorter learning period the only thing stopping you from picking the right options is knowing which is which, which is obviously intuitive in some ways, but being simpler they have fewer correct options per situation.
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>>499676747
>hmm that combo against the Potemkin I played earlier didn't work; surely this is the result of gravity,
if you are playing the game, and you notice some characters are too high and some characters are too low during your combos, yes i think most people will understand there is a different in weights
>next time I shall magically know somehow without googling it to change my entire combo routing against big body characters
please point to me where i said they will optimally know the routing, if you actually read my posts i clearly said
>they will try something different
whether it's optimal or not doesn't fucking matter, it's the fact they understand they need to do something different from just playing instead of having to look it up, unironically you are just burdened by knowledge and can't put yourself in the shoes of something that doesn't know dustloop exists.
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johnny's cards should float where he throws them or at the very least they should fall at a slower speed
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snackbox micro or do i just really really fuck my hands up playing fighting games with a controller?
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>>499677260
tiny leverless are so fucking gay, get a full sized one that sits comfortably on your lap
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>>499677113
Bro beginners are not going to intuit that the reason their combos are dropping is because of weight classes and hurtbox jank and proceed to look up the right combo. They're going to assume they're dropping combos because the game is hard and they're a beginner
I think you're the one who's burdened by knowledge. Your familiarity with the game systems has tricked you into thinking they're intuitive when older Guilty Gear games are genuinely anything but
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>>499677260
get one of the haute leverless controllers. snackbox sucks balls and is super uncomfortable for extended play.
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>>499677113
I am honestly at a loss to understand how you think gravity is an at-a-glance mechanic.
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>>499677630
never once did i say hurtbox jank was intuitive, i literally said that's prime retardation, and i'm not implying the noob is going to instantly know the existence of the weigh classes in guilty gear which again is added information you keep added to my posts, but they will understand at the very minimum that there is something different about someone like sol and someone like millia, you think being intuitive means instantly understanding the entire web of nuance from that given thing. i'm just saying at a glance someone can put 2 and 2 together at a very basic level which is what matters.
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>>499678341
I explained what I meant by intuitive here >>499673880 which I still don't think weight classes fit under. Even if we accept your premise (and without putting words in your mouth) of a beginner who sees Sol and Millia, has the intuition necessary to understand that there's some hidden x-factor causing a combo to work on one character but not the other, once said beginner labs out a combo that works versus each character that beginner is STILL going to fuck up that weight specific combo, or not be able to use either combo against ABA or Anji or whoever the fuck. THAT'S what I mean by the game not being intuitive to pick up.
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>>499677260
Sgf Bridget or a haute leverless (get the t model which I believe has the more traditional button sizes and spacing)
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soivers really think anything past button button special is unintuitive luhmaaaaaaaaaaaow
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>>499677260
Why don't you just grow a pair and use a stick?
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>Meaty Potbuster will beat everthing but Bridget’s DP
I fucking despise this character
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>>499679385
bro your backdash?
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>>499679385
she sneeds it, chud
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everybody in this general is so fucking lazy. nobody contributes anything to it besides shitty bait "discussions" and shitty bait tier lists
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>>499679729
I used to clip stuff in lobbies and post webms but I stopped because I realized I hated myself when I played fighting games
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>>499679729
what do you contribute?
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>>499679729
my contribution
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>>499679729
My OC gets less (you)s than my tranny bait. It is what is it
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>>499679429
>backing dashing in strive
devilish
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>>499680246
*it is
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>>499680370
Pots CS is less active than most so backdash is actually a good option
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>>499679974
last thread i made and posted at least 5 or 6 webms of the new balance update. also honest/non-bait discussion
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>>499680370
if you're not representing backdash on wakeup in strive you're going from having three useful defensive options on wakeup to two. seems like a bad play
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You guys are silly!
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>>499679385
Damn, if only you had some kind of movement option that beat both strike AND throw
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I keep wanting to play I-No then remembering the character is nothing but 2k and js, to the point where after hitting a js, you then do a 2k and go into the exact same combos
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>>499679729
I still don't know why ggg thinks
>It's not about long combos
>It's about fun combos
is a faulty statement
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>>499680773
who thinks this is a faulty statement, i feel like thats a big thing in guilty gear since the series generally doesn't really have long combos.
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>>499679729
I've grown apathetic.
People stop showing up to lobbies? They stop getting hosted.
Low quality webms get spammed? Webms get ignored. No need to look at clips.
No earnest discussion so I blogpost about my sessions occasionally. 50 words or less of course.
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ok but genuinely how come the only lobbies that get posted are xrd and +r ones now
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>>499680975
why is gio there
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>>499680031
BASED
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Unironically nobody shows up for the lobbys because of the Kyschizo from FGG
He singlehandedly fucking ruined the general and any rooms that would ever be made
I fucking hate how parents taught children "Just ignore them they'll go away" but underestimated the millenial autism of a mid-30s manchild with no ambition or hope in life
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>>499681203
1.29 Wild Assault
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>>499681421
>I fucking hate how parents taught children "Just ignore them they'll go away" but underestimated the millenial autism of a mid-30s manchild with no ambition or hope in life
how were they suppose to account for that
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>>499679729
When I post my gameplay you guys get mad at me and call me names.
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I don't show up for lobbies because I'm both socially autistic and punching-bag tier.
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>>499681421
Who the fuck
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Who should I play for the next week to prepare for maining Queen Dizzy?
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>>499681421
Who is the ky
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>>499682403
Dizzy
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>>499682565
it's never a good idea to play the old version of gg characters to play them in strive, literally setting yourself up for hating the iteration.
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>>499682565
Man I can never tell what's going on in Xrd webms
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>>499682681
Imagine hearing Baiken's coming out in Strive then playing her old versions out of hype to have her release with 4 specials
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>>499682358
>>499682417
The TL;DR is simply this
Some accent core venom player that was posting about helping or playing with new players when the game got it's rollback patch, then started posting webms of completely destroying them
He went back to Tekken7 shortly but returned when strive launched and started doing the same thing but as Ky, hosting lobbies for the sole purpose of recording footage of players playing and posting replays with button inputs and showcasing their tags
Instead of calling this out, GGG laughed with him
Now we have no new players and nobody wants to play against anyone here and in general that starting mood and vibe resonates with ggg since strive launched to this day
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>>499682875
thats literally what happened with me with anji
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>>499682941
>Venom player
of course
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>>499683075
hey man thats a outlier us venom players are nicer than that.
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>>499683064
you play anji so you deserve disappointment
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>>499683251
i dont play anji anymore after the incident
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>>499683235
Any setplay and/or puppet character main is invariably a horrible person.
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>>499683075
I haven't seen him for a good few months, not even in the occasional lobby that does sneak through
Actually I guess he's just playing T8
I wonder if he's here again now that Venom has been announced
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>>499682941
I haven't seen this person in at least two years. It seems very odd to blame the lack of Strive lobbies on one schizo from the release
I'm pretty sure most people just got lured away by GBVS:R (I know a couple former lobby regulars who play that), T8, or just stopped playing because S3 had a couple different giant problems that Arcsys never really addressed
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maybe strive is just not a 4chan game
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If I don't buy BO6 I'll make a lobby tonight
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>>499683882
What kind of game is it then....
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>>499684018
normies game
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>>499683882
>one of the few fighting games that managed to keep a /vg/ thread alive independent of /fgg/ isn't a 4chan game
Huh?
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if giving Dizzy more clothes is woke is giving Venom more clothes also woke if he's a black gay guy?
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>>499684017
>buying COD
its not 2008 anymore, grandpa
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>>499684078
yeah the /vg/ threads are alive but no one makes strive lobbies ever
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>>499681203
The "xrd lobby" is just some very dedicated individual hosting a public lobby. It's not a /ggg/ lobby
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>>499684265
>It's not a /ggg/ lobby
what the fuck does this even mean
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>>499684258
Yeah because everyone is sick as fuck of season 3
The exact same shit happened at the end of season 2, the decline in lobbies and posting
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>>499684410
>outing yourself as a tourist
lol
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why would we play
instead relax, chill, destress
we gaming on the 31st
cant wait to fight dizzy back to back to back to back
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Didn't the Slayer kit information start getting released like, the literal day before his release? Are we really gonna have to wait until the last minute to have any clue how she's actually going to play?
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>>499684116
He's a gray guy this time. dudes too ashy
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>>499682852
from dizzy's perspective
>Round start backdash, pot whiffs f.S, react with IAD j.KPH, pot blocks
>delay 5H, 5D into side dust(Xrd lets you go sideways instead of up), burst safe wall combo into crouch only c.S>2H>236H for the good knockdown
>214H laser fish into TK P bubble, Pot blocks the laser fish standing because of the threat of Dizzy's falling j.S, gets fuzzied by rising j.K which pops the bubble for a combo
>side note, this was probably fake on Pot because his wakeup is fast, the pillar didn't hit very high and he can flick the laser if it's not a true meaty
>4S ice spike for a knockdown, much less advantage than fire pillar
>same setup, but very fake this time, Pot got knowledge checked or didn't react
>RRC combo to get the good knockdown off pillar again, higher this time so likely real
>same setup but fake overhead empty airdash into 2K>c.S to pop the bubble, was probably throwable before the 2K, 4S>Ice Spike knockdown again
>fake laser setup again into Fire Bubble, then a reversal throw bait with airdash forward airdash back j.H which counterhits and combos into fire bubble pop, giving another 4S>Ice Spike for the round
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>>499684116
Venom and Dizzy always had casual clothing that covered them up thoughever
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>>499684591
if i don't play this game every day i literally get the shakes
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>>499684767
Jesus Christ
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>>499684767
ludokino
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>>499684767
Wow, they weren't kidding that Xrd is literally just dust/sweep/throw with more layers of pretend bullshit
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What are we doing to (physically and mentally) prep for our new top tier Dizzy bros?
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>>499684767
This is why they should have added replay takeover with the Xrd rollback patch
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>>499685147
jerking off, same thing i did when slayer was dropping
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>>499685195
Do you imagine yourself being slayer or being fucked by slayer
Do you imagine yourself being dizzy or being fucked by dizzy
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>>499685349
On all levels including physical I am Dizzy
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>>499685070
thats literally just guilty gear lmao
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>>499685349
No, Yes
Yes, Yes
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>>499684767
It really beggars belief that people play this shit and actually have fun doing so
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>>499685450
So why is it bad when soive does it
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>>499685804
it got rid of all the fun pretend bullshit
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>>499685070
dust is generally not a good mixup in xrd, there's no tap dust so it's basically always easily reactable, people just fuck up if you don't use it for a few games in a row and then throw it in when they're trying to IB a low or something but it's really far from a core mixup option
but yeah ultimately every fighting game boils down to an RPS of some sort, it's the layers that make it fun otherwise you'd just play actual rock paper scissors
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Why can Baiken parry the H ender for Elphelts rekka? It's a fucking gunshot
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>>499685853
>otherwise you'd just play actual rock paper scissors
guilty gear strive
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>>499685892
bullets exist to make the people who parry them look cool.
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>>499681234
johnny's arcade mode is literally just him flirting with gio
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>>499685615
Guilty gear, even Xrd, is perfectly playable at any skill level
The biggest problem is this percieved notion of "who even plays like this" only runs rampant in fighting games because of the simple fact that the games aren't big enough player-wise to offer enough of a buffer to where you have play at all skill levels a few weeks into the games lifespan so you end up with a very large portion of your playerbase at high skill level that passes on from game to game

You can download dota or league or world of warcraft right now and clap cheeks at the lowest possible level by just clicking buttons and having fun
This simply doesn't work in fighting games
And even more so because of how expensive fighting games are as a genre and they keep getting away with it
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>>499685070
this is literally every fighting game ever
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>>499686270
why are you replying to this avatar fagging baiting retard, he does this every time.
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>>499686270
there's still a lot of new and bad players in xrd
probably +r too but I haven't touched it in a few months
the main difference is that matchmaking is dead so you have to find them yourself if you want even matches as a noob. That doesn't necessarily mean discord though it can help, just making a lobby called "beginners only" or looking for light blue squares is usually enough most days, but it does vary, sometimes you might have to put up with getting your butt kicked for a bit and that's fine. The guys kicking your ass get the same thing done to them by the actually good players and even those guys get stomped by the top players. And honestly even the current top players would get 50-0d by the old top top players from japan.
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>>499684767
do keep in mind that all of this happened because pot ate that dust, normally dizzy isn't the best character to set up her setplay, ironically enough since she has trouble converting air juggles into workable KDs
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>>499688696
>normally dizzy isn't the best character to set up her setplay
??? this is not true, she doesn't have good air conversions but she has an amazing throw game that starts her shenanigans insanely well.
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>>499688696
true kinda but only kinda
if the IAD j.K had hit it would have led to a 2D knockdown which is still pretty good, Pot isn't really a character that gets a lot of mileage out of hanging out in the air to avoid strong conversions unlike say Millia, Dizzy is really good at converting basically everything but air to airs and anti airs into fantastic oki, if you know all the character specific options
5D is definitely the highest reward hit in that situation though, she doesn't normally get full corner setplay off a single meterless hit midscreen like that
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>>499681234
gio and johnny have a past. It's in his arcade mode
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>>499681203
cause we don't have to beg for matches
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>>499685474
>cant imagine yourself being the dandy gent
Clearly this game isnt for me



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