>Terry Teaser, Gameplay and Guide trailerhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qQnF07Owwd8 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9LUExu3qU-o https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PDPhkX2oMmQ >Year 2 Character Reveal Trailerhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GVPqv7ZyfWo >The official Capcom Pro Tour 2024 website is livehttps://sf.esports.capcom.com/cpt/>S2 Balance Patchhttps://www.streetfighter.com/6/buckler/battle_change/20240626>High level replayshttps://replaytheater.app/?game=sf6>Street Fighter 6 Frame Datahttps://ultimateframedata.com/sf6/https://fullmeter.com/fatonline/#/calculators>SuperCombo Wikihttps://wiki.supercombo.gg/w/Street_Fighter_6>Fighting Game Glossaryhttps://glossary.infil.net/>Use Fightcade to play ST, A2, A3, 3S, CVS2, etchttps://www.fightcade.com/Previous: >>499434138
>>499581989My FUARKING hero and I guess Ryu as well...
dogshit game
>>499581989BoyfriendsSoulmates
>>499581989godlike game
>>499582073Second post best post
Booce is the pro version of online Ken
i want to fuck lily
>>499581989>They both wear each other headbands in their body all the time
>>499582289Bocchi*
>>499582294kaze...
>>499582395I miss BocchipostingWhy all good things have to die bros?
>>499582305calm down Kimberly
>>499582351Just friendship...
>>499582485il fuck them both
>>499582662Nigcel bros... dont look...
>>499582662The only good newcomers to be honest familia
>>499582662CUNNYly and STACYberly are so cute.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=msl4g_aVRoUStreet Fighter changes the core mechanics of every game and that's a good thing.
>>499583430>Sajam btfo Mickey posters yesterday>today btfo JiversOH NONONONONO
>>499583430Aint this dude married? People are so disgusting.
This stupid game keeps giving me 1650mrs when I can't even beat 1400mrs. What the fuck is this matchmaking?
Mickey is unbeatable.
https://youtu.be/71d4rqQjnTc?si=rxLkWLLe-3qKf6Ht&t=180>"I HIT YOU I GOTTA DEAL WITH THIS MICKEY MOUSE WAKEUP KNOCKDOWN BULLSHIT"literally crying /sfg/ schizos
>>499584027Chun-li....
>SajamMickey OWNS this white bitch
>>499584027>Mickey is unbeatable.
>>499584047mickey is slang thats bigger than /sfg/ lil bro
>>499583859Am I seriously the only one here bothered by how retarded master rank is?
jivers... we lost again...
>>499583859ironically i find higher mr players to be more tolerable to fight. i even somehow beat a 1700 the other day>t. mid 1400s
managing your drive gauge is a harder skill than hit confirming
Bison players really fucking smirk and say shit like “heh, obvious of you” when they fuckin hit you scissor kicks
>>499586692neutral jump more, we unironically hate it
>>499585738>>499586353imagine the smell
>>499582294Can I have this WebM without the shitty modded body. Her base body is sex enough
>>499586979AI kino... I need to learn it...
>>499587072You can get it by owning the game too
>>499586979>AI art got popular like 2 years ago or so>Already brutally mogs 80% of human artists
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8F-UWsVrotAwhy is no one watching SFL....
Why did they make Lily's breasts so big if they're gonna hide them in all her costumes
>>499586979Link the post please? Would love to see the tears:>AIEEEEE I THOUGHT IT WAS "REAL" ART NOT FAIR!
>>499587493sfl is only good when there's beef
>>499586979What I love about AI how it helps filters these artists who do nothing but render their pieces like bots.If you wanna be better than AI you gotta compesate in a different way. AI will forever beat rendering johns in terms of speed and consistency.
How do I cope with being mediocre at everything in life bros>low paying job>no real skills >can't fix cars, can't build PCs>not even a good SF player
>>499588386you do what you can
>>499588386take the trap pill and have life be easy mode
>>499588386Shame is a good motivator for you to try and change yourself. Whenever you use porn/videogames/drugs to cope, you just numb yourself but the shame gets bigger.You gotta stick with something. Building habits around real skills that you can actually show off to others like drawing or learning a language, is a high serotonin activity, while stuff like gaming is high in dopamine.Serotonin doesn't give you a peak but makes you feel better about yourself in the long run, dopamine-indulced activity is the opposite, they give you the rush and make you feel like shit hours later.>tl;drLess mopping around, more doing good shit.
>>499588386>Having a jobAlready mog a lotta people ITT
imagine being a low tier nigga in real life, aim to be a high tier nigga
Its stupid that I still come here to praise Manons design, and shut down the upplayers isn't it.I'm hopeless.
>>499588386most people are mediocre, or less.
>>499588386Can’t build PCs is the fucked partActual Literal guides to walk Jamal’s through it and even little beaners like me. You’re not that retarded anon lmao
sf peaked here
>>499587565so the normies wouldn't seethe
>>499589750NTA but building PC is not something you do everyday, so is not wrong to be bad at it. Whenever I upgrade my PC I rather throw 40$ to a dude who will make everything fine and dandy and if they fucked up I can sue and get my money back.That being said, I used ChatGPT to upgrade my SSD, by transfering my OS to a USB, then removing and installing the SSD because I didn't want to pay/wait to do this, so even though it was a bit tiresome, it was worth it.
>>499589768>game had modern controls and put them in a separate queue>however classic control queues were fucking deada shame
>>499590287That’s just an empty excuse at this point when you can even slow down the step by step videos, with nearly every commercial pc retail hardware in use too
Nothing more unfun in this game than playing a redditgief with a lvl 3.If it didn't kicked in at frame 0 he'd still be good but every gief players under 1600 would simply be dead.
>>499590636>Not wanting to risk to damage hundreds of dollars of hardware is an empty excuseWhatever. I know I could do it if I really tried, like with the SSD, but if I can have it without the stress and saving my own time, the money is more than well spent.Also >>499588994 this advice is pretty good. Even though we live in bad times, theres still lots of ways to make money. I found this channel outta nowhere, it seems like schizo shit, but it has actual viewers and monetized.https://www.youtube.com/@mia.english/videosI think if you focus in some niche you can always make some money online, while keeping your dayjob of course.
post cute Kimberly images
>>499591198Wish I could, but she just doesn’t even feel fun to play. I want her bombs to mean something
Does anyone remember some Japanese SF4 Ryu that played super random with EX DPs and just doing the craziest shit but was actually good? Does he still play SF6?
>>499591282capcom is scared of letting setplay exist
>>499591198
>>499591389Like enough man, Uma took your money. Fucking nerf drive rush from neutral. Make it cost 3 to 4 bars for combos. Let Kimberly’s bombs be like ibuki, let Aki be more than cash out. Her pool of poison means fuck all.This games online is wasted when Kimberly and Chun and Ryu all play the same, save for Ryu being able to loop me
>>499591282Wtf is this uncanny abomination?
>Dude asks for cute Kimberly pictures>ACKUTALLY PLAYING KIMBERLY IS BORINGLike what? How is this even related to what he asked? Oh my... Fucking schizos.
imagine Juri fighting and bullying Manon until she pisses and shits herself and cries
>>499592428Shut the fuck up and post images for once you beta bitch
choose one thing to remove from the game in the next patch>throw loops>raw drive rush>corner drive impact>long level 3s>li fen's spats
>>499593504All of these things are required to keep the game balanced.Save for corner drive impact, assuming you can still stun in burnout, i don't really care, it's free damage and easy to react, it doesn't hold much importance.
https://youtube.com/watch?v=msl4g_aVRoUWhat the fuck, did anyone else know this? I always wondered why no one used drive rush in 3S.
>>499594003>easy to reactWHAT
>>499594459It's a big red flash with a noticeable noise that cannot be baited, you either play too tired or too nervous if you get hit routinely by those.And i'm not humble bragging, you can throw them on reaction in burnout.
>>499595187I wish I had a sister wife
>>499581989Cute OP
>>499595492
>>499595468>sister wifeI immediately thought that meant like sister wives in a polygamist mormon marriage
Mickey Slimer 6 is an interesting game
>>499594423Watching the video, I just realized the comparison is kind of disingenuous, unless I'm misinterpreting it.They say that there's no risk to crmk confirms in 5...but even ignoring the tighter window, for most characters, confirming into special means you get punished no? But the tweet is acting like all you do in 5 is press the crmk button and only confirm if you hit. But they're comparing that to just mindlessly pressing the drive rush button after a crmk.Which none of this even matters anyway, since a drive rush cancel that doesn't hit, is still a plus mix, and even if the mix doesn't work, losing meter doesn't mean as much when you're chipping your opponents meter...and your opponent has to use their meter eventually too, else they lose pressure (also ignoring the fact that you can parry to compensate for meter loss)
>>499595603Qts
>>499594529I feel like Kimberly low-key had the potential to be the Laura of the game more than an Ibuki
So what do I do if dhalsim wakes up with sa2 (light punch version) while he is cornered? If you don't have sa3 then any punish combo you try to do will get you hit by sa2 as it comes down. If you for some reason block the whole attack then he's only -4, so you just get a jab punish. And finally, if you duck it and then do punish counter throw then you are forced to block it after the throw and then dhalsim is +16 when he wakes up.
>>499595468yeah....
S4
>>499595738Mickey V sometimes gave you two v-triggers per round except v-triggers gave you super powers unlike drive rush
>>499595738You're not supposed to point out that the "new mechanic" is more oppressive than ever and rely on guess.
>half of akuma's kit is useless (anything in the air)>people pretend he's top tier because he gets lucky in some bracketsepic
why hasnt there been a female tournament winner yet? I really thought bison would be the one to do it
mai will save sf6...
>>499595905you sounded stupid at first...but I thought about it for a second, especially the mixups and yeah you're right, maybe if her spray can set play was better integrated too, I never saw the Ibuki comparisons beyond le ninja
>>499597107Funny cuz I think Kimberly is like the one character Idom said he won't touch
Which character have the best meterless oki besides Akuma?
>>499597384>best meterless oki>akumayou joking?
>>499596840>Ed and Falke are siblings/married>Cody is the mayor and Lucia is a cop working for himI don't see how Kolin relates to Luke
Light tatsu into sweep, is a safe jump set up or a canned frame kill with double dash.That and demon with which he can bait basically anything he wants, he's immensely privileged on that front.
only works on standing opponentsand you have to hit them first
>>499597495>>499597991forgot to (you)
>>499598053>only works on standing opponentsThat's still insanely good, and he get light fire punch against crouching opponents so even without meter he can get a follow up from lights without giving up too much damage.>and you have to hit them firstThat's how everyone gets oki...
>>499597938LukeGAWD fucked her
>>499597107>>499597368should I try Kimberly then if I liked Laura's unique gameplay style
I can't imagine playing this game without a DP, not even talking about an OD invul one, everyone prefer jumping on wake up over teching, to the point that i sometimes win round simply anti airing over and over people neutral jumping on wake up.And i still get nervous everytime i have oki because of reversals, perfect parry or people doing button drive rush on wake up, can't imagine having to be pressured for trying to throw a kangaroo on top of that.
>>499596032Please help
akuma is weak because he has to hit you
>>499600106Nigga, no one knows the Dhalsim MU, not even Dhalsim players.Give them the W and move on.
>>499590863it would be fine if he couldn't just drive rush level 3. its kinda a nice change of pace to the match and the game in general when gief gets level 3 and you focus on zoning him out instead of throw looping
>>499588386you got a girlfriend? if not then you might as well kys at that point
>>499598719nobody here played Laura lil bro, ask in the SFV general oh wait...kek
>>499600686I won neutch, i don't want to give up my turn because reddit gief can decide to just YOLO lvl 3 on wake up.
>>499600872my time will come, I ain't ever backing down
top 4 most footsies characters in sf6, drop em now!
>>499598719sf6 doesn't have unique gameplay styles
>>499601179Manon and Jamie pretty unique no? JP too of course, but that's cheating.
>go 1-2 against a streamer>watch the vod>chat comments that my playstyle is cool
>>499588994>You gotta stick with something. Building habits around real skills that you can actually show off to others like drawing or learning a language, is a high serotonin activity, while stuff like gaming is high in dopamine.i am 100% guilty of burying myself in porn and games for years to cope with anxiety but games like street fighter are in a neat place imo. engaging in some chill low effort low reward high dopamine activities like games is necessary for most people's sanity imo, but being good at street fighter is a cool skill that you can show off to others if you are good enough. its a shame that offline scenes suck so much more now though. zoomies like me think we like online better but im realizing how nice offline scenes with cool people are.
>1 and doned ceroblastFeels good
>>499601159all the shotos. order unspecified.>>499601571i always imagine this happening in my head
Whenever someone starts talking about dopamine i'm out, unless they're a neuroscientist.
>>499601946>I disassociate when my triggers pop up
Your constipation is actually caused by hypothyroidism caused by a magnesium deficiency.How do i know? I remember reading something on /fit/ about it, some anon linked some ncbi article, i read the title and now i'm basically a constipation/thyroid expert even though i don't know how this shit works.
Is playing cammy a bad idea if my region is filled with giefniggers?
>>499601946just chill your autism and accept it as a common figure of speech for instant gratification
Made it to Platinum with Ryu
>>499603017This nigga was legit talking about neurotransmitters as if he was talking about brain science instead of spouting Petersonesque platitude.You can't have it both way, you can't have the respectability these words offer your thesis and dissociate from them the moment you're getting called out on it.Also instant gratification doesn't apply in this instance.
Remember BananaKen?
Remember Joe Umerogan?
Joe is still playing tho.
>>499604420nigga is not frauding his way to CC this time
UMA
Nah seriously, what was that about?
>>499604879mickey mouse format + mickey mouse game = mickey mouse results
>>499603151nice job. if you continue to play then you'll eventually make to master, it's only a matter of time.
>>499604879He understood the mickey before anyone else had even started understanding the mouse.
is Kimberly Mickey Mouse or not
>>499606531she is a sf6 character
I feel like people focus so much on Rashids level 2 that I just saw some retard say that without level 2 Rashid would be a "sick character". This dude has absolutely insane corner carry (every one of his opponents is in the corner within like 15 seconds) the nastiest overhead, crazy mobility, the most extended combos, insane drive rush check buttons, random as fuck projectile just to fuck with you, and mix ups for days.The characters problem is NOT just his level 2 anybody who thinks that is a crazy downplayer.I cannot believe the fact that the same people that will say shit like "Rashid would be a sick ass character without level 2" are the same people saying it's propaganda to say Manon is weak. Like are they even aware of the disparities between characters in this game?
another pro who keeps claiming cammy is broken top 1 switching from their easy mode main to prove a point and then getting embarrassed and losing through getting outfootsied by nobodies
https://www.twitch.tv/leveluplivesnake eyez in top 6 WW. get in here
timothy thinks anyone wants to watch this slop lmfao
/v/ spics really just reposting old news>>499607397think he'll lose?
I HATE ZANGIEF SO MUCH FUCKING RETARDED CHARACTER>GAME RELEASES>NO BRO TRUST HE'S LOW TIER AS ALWAYS>HAS OKI AFTER 40-60% THROWS AND THE BEST + BUTTONS FOR HIS KIT>NAH BRO HE'S LOW TIER TRUST ME>GETS BUFFED COMBOSTHIS RETARD HAS BEEN TOP TIER SINCE RELEASE THIS IS NOTHING NEW ALL THEY HAD TO DO WAS FUCKING THINK FOR ONCESF6 IS A SHIT GAME BECAUSE THE ARCHETYPES DON'T EXIST, SANATIZED STERILE COMPETITIVE BULLSHIT THAT RUINS FIGHTING GAMES
i like how Ken's st.hk has the same range as Ryu's f.hk but is also 4 frames faster.
LMAO, Ken's corner carry is so busted he can catch up to AKI's fireball.
>>499587127it's all coincidental but my life has improved significantly since i started generating AI pornography. I got a better job and got better at street fighter.
Whatever happened to the Bronze to Diamond or Bronze to Master SFV guy?
FUCK CHUN LI
watching snake eyez stream right now...do people really think Chun Li is honest????
Chun's buttons need to be nerfed.
I came here to laugh at snake eyez
Want all the Chun retards on this shit fucking board and general to listen to Snake talk about Chun right nowThat match was so fucking goofy. Mashed through the entire fight. Random as fuck EX's. Low forward drive rush all the time.
we might want to revise giefs placing on the tierlists guys
>Random game>Random outcomeWho'd have thoughtGief is still top tier
Insane how Chun almost makes Ed look honest.
all these characters seriously fucking play the same it's ridiculous, unironically going to switch to rivals aether 2
Hazanshu is a lot like Manon's overhead when you think about it.Except that it's harder to DI, go through fireball, gives you a follow up and comes with three other safe versions.
methinks aki's damage is too high
Are we just gonna ignore the fact that Snake Eyez was being carried by 4 DI attempts and random SPD resets in the middle of light combos?
Hazanshu is just Ryu's tatsumaki it was safe block, faster, and with 1 pixel less range
>Chun Li mirror losers finalslmao
US Midwest is a stronger region than US West
>>499606957who?
>>499612009s3 is in like... 6 months.can broski stfu?
>>499612313You're delusional if you think they will change slime rush, throw loops, or perfect parry
>>499612608you are missing some 80 iq points
>>499609367Ceelow? deleted all his shit
>no dale stream for 2 nights in a roww-wuz goin on???
>>499613403who cares. go to bed
>SF6 so shit it causee ceelow to quit and delete his entire channel Grim
>>499613823another jivelet taken down. Kappa GUFFAWFS at its lesser enemy
My wife mogs your waifu and it's not even close.
>>499612009>"first patch is going to be it, bros, either they fix the game or they wont">"second patch is going to be it, bros, either they fix the game or they wont">"third patch is going to be it..."
>>499614590There's little to actually fix this is by the books the best Street Fighter has been doing since the arcades
Divekicks no matter the character are the most fraud thing ever lmao
>>499614703lmao I really hope the majority of people think this way so the game will stay as shitty.
>>499614590Just wait until Super Street Fighter 6! It'll fix everything!
>>499615449To Capcom, they certainly think this game is perfect, as for the rest of the remaining shills and influencers just look at what happened to Dogura as to why they won't dare say anything bad and will clinch their asses and pretend everything is fine.
>Cammy Husband finally see's his waifu in the afterlife
>>499616230What happened to dogura?
>>499617017In some off comment he said "SFL is whatever" and compared it to "reseting" it's not even as bad as Sajam shitting on SFV's netcode on commentary, this was just some random comment while he was streaming a different game.
>>499617131JESUS lolMan no wonder SFL for US is recorded. Could never control these loud niggers in it
CHESTO!
Smurfs suck.
>>499617131If they want pro players to actually take SFL seriously they should pay them out for winning
>>499618849Dogura specifically wasn't happy about the random grouping hence the "resetting" comparison, which is why he made that comment about not being serious for SFL.It seems like its an issue with formatting just like Capcom Cup was like.
Why is Terry considered D tier again? Don't give me the "Low damage from small openings" excuse, Luke and Guile are the same.
>>499620070No one except Terry players who want to downplay their new main say he's D tier
>>499612009Jive fixed so much shit from release to AE even people who hated it from day 1 started to change their minds, like Smug.Meanwhile dix is still the exact same game with the same 100 complaints from day one. Beyond fucking grim.
>>499612009I think they'll get rid of throw loops but crmk DR is here to stay
>>499621756I think it's a lot more likely they'll nerf c.MK DR somehow than remove throw loops.
Dogura, my brother in Christ, don't call the boring if you main fucking M. Bison...
>>499621954*game boring
I don't want them to get rid of throw loop, everyone already walk back to the corner roundstart and do anything but tech on wake up.I'd rather have them stop drive rush from eating your inputs, slow down super meter gains and have cr.MK DR not be a true blockstring ( Though it would once again just make chars with invul reversal stronger and leave other lagging behind ).
>>499622124>have cr.MK DR not be a true blockstringIt's already not a true blockstring.
>>499622191cr.MK DR jab is a true blockstring for every single character with a cancellable cr.MK.>"You just said cr.MK DR, not cr.MK DR jab"It was implied, cr.MK DR by itself is not even a blockstring.Do not lie ever again, it hurts your soul.
Wouldn't surprise if with next iteration the series takes a more "NRS-esque" direction visually.
>>499596840Not related to this post, but am I the only one who preferred how Luke looked in SFV compared to 6?
>>499623067SF6 is already NRS-esque.
>>499623494I don't like his design in either game, but his SFV iteration was a lot more unique. SF6 Luke looks like a NBA2K create-a-player. SFV Luke had some wackier, more cartoony traits like the crazy eyebrows, the braces/mouth protector, the tattoos, and the messier hair that made him more Street Fightery. He's still ugly as sin and pretty unlikable personality-wise though.
>>499619128What random grouping? Just looked at his team and he has Bonchan, Shuto and Kazunoko. Don't really get the resetting thing.
>>499623541It is, but SF7 will go even further to that direction.
Is there a way to bypass the 900 minute waiting time while posting on incognito mode?
>>499623741SFV had a better art.Simple as.
i played zeku today and had fun
IneeduChun
People were way too harsh on SFV art direction.
>>499624731It's not just because of the art direction.SF6 uses RE Engine which focuses on photo-scanning and photorealism. It has a problem with uncanny valley. Add that SF's character designs were always cartoony and exaggerated and you get SF6.
You have to be fucking joking, SF5 looked like total ass
>absolutely seethe at manon>she's apparently my character's worst matchupohfuck manon anyway
>>499625790People posting supersampled, heavily modded screenshots of games to make them look prettier than what they actually look like will never cease to put a smile on my face.
>>499625964Why do I keep seeing you making this post when it's exactly what people used to in the SFV days
>>499626060>It's okay because people used to do the same with other gameIt's not a good parameter. It's disingenuous and I'm sure you're well aware of it.
>>499626191But why didn't you say it before SF6
>>499625961Out of curiosity, who do you play?
>>499626227I actually did.
>>499626280proof? show post from the archives
>>499626267bisonyeah, character busted but i suck at fighting her no matter who i play. people tell me "shes fake everywhere" but never say where
>>499625964>I-ISSA EDITINGJust because you can't run the game at 4K doesn't meant that nobody else can Timmy
>>499626321You can't, the archives don't have an IP for the posts, and I'm not even sure if they go that back.
>>499626408Ok Johnny.
>>499626750>No rebuttalWe got a Spike over here bros
It's funny because Street Fighter players and artfags used to shit so much on NRS for going into uncanny valley territory with the weird faces and animations only for them to not only stay silent but eat that shit up when their own company starts following a very similar direction.
>>499627242That's because most Capcom fans are sellouts with no integrity.
instant divekicks are fucking gay
When will PP drive rush stop fucking up the frame counter or whatever in training mode?It's been that way since launch.
F.A.N.G-sama... I...
>shit on smash as a throwaway comment 5 months ago>chun schizoid has been seething about it every thread since
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oSMqSpt8GW0This should have made this Akuma's Real Theme....
>>499628034It's the same shit with a guitar riff.
>>499628034i mean you could do that yourself in the bgm options
>>499626408>bad art direction? Works on my machine :^)
>>499628091It's way better is the point, and far more fitting in terms of energy>>499628152Yeah i already have it in my playlist, just a bit shocked this was relegated to an event that will never be seen again
look at those noodles
>>499628245>It's way better is the pointIt's really not, the guitar riffs make it sound messier.
>>499625790SFV looked like total ass if you camera modded yourself into a character's nostrils in a way that the actual game would never do, like you're doing here. But from the moment you actually got in a game and the round started, SFV was a much more readable, vibrant, better animated, and visually/sonically satisfying than SF6 with its muted colors, blown-out lighting and relatively shittier sound design.
>>499628347Messier? and the random random flute skips and messed up pacing of the original ain't?
I like bright colors, should I main Blanka or Kimberly?
>>499628273Ineedujamie
>>499627242Sounds like a callout for A.B.I. from SugarPunch. Dude made 30 minutes video essays about why NRS animations are bad only to say nothing about SF6
>>499628465>messed up pacingits called rhythm sisthe shin akuma track sounds like an amateur edit where they just overlayed some random guitar track over the original and called it a day, its pretty bad.
>>499628491Blanka is overrall better at neutral skipping and mixing.Kimmy is weaker but her neutch is a bit better and her schmix feels way more satisfying.
>got hit by 4(four) drive impacts in a row>win the set anywayholy hell man what am i doing in the lower 1500s
Crabbas are so desperate they're actually defending how SFV looked oh my days bruv you can't make this shit up
>>499628659yeah you're talking out your ass
>>499628649https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r3-zITMBf5wHe doesn't like it though, check the comments on this video. It's a whole hour of nitpicky autism but the guy does have a point.
>>499608180sthk is like the one thing that ken actually has for neutral. its what he gets for having a worse fireball than ryu and a stmk that whiffs on crouching and a stubby crmk. his footsies is already not great and without sthk he'd be unplayable and also way less fun.
>>499624926based zeku enjoyer and fun haver
>>499628273IneeduSifuLi
I just played a ft5 against some random I ran into on ranked because he invited me to a custom room. I thought he was gonna talk shit but he just wanted to play.
what's the difference between selected character and specified character on rankings?
Birthday boy hamster for your enjoyment /sfg/
>>499630542wow thats rare
>>499630621I don't like that I'm starting my day off seeing gigantic hamster balls
>>499630704Hamster's just be like that man, idk what to say as someone who's owned hamsters and Rats before
>>499630621I may give him a little jacket later too i have to do laundry though
>>499628273This would be a cool as fuck skin for Jamie with some changes to distinguish it from C1, at 4 drinks his man bun explodes into his full hair
I like to think I have good mental, but sometimes it's the little things that really set me off, so post things that make you go berserk while playing ranked/hub>Opponent neutral/back jumps and instantly DIs>I get punish countered for trying to chase and poke them to catch their landing
>>499632052>people who randomly sweep mid range, this is usually ken or chun players>people who corner themselves just to initiate their weird ass minigame of a playstyle>when a playstyle looks very beatable but i didn't work out a way in time>drive impact coming out instead of wake up drive reversal because i didn't hold the input for an arbitrary amount of frames, but the entire drive system can fuck off to begin with
>>499613058Why?
>>499632052For me it's mostly self targetedread what the opponent wants to do - hands do the opposite >know that he will di, di him first to give him perfect punish>he does jump in - i randomly AA with swipeor when basic bnb's just stop working for no reason. Sometimes its so bad i force myself to play only with normals for a bit to reset
>>499628649>only to say nothing about SF6Because dunking on SF6 means you'll have to deal with people like Sajam and his massive community. It's like if the majority became Emezie and had power to silence criticism.
Modern controls really irritate me, just seeing the M sign beside the name of the player makes my blood run high. I'm currently on plat and I only have a high chance of losing when I encounter modern players. Modern should be banned on platinum and up or have damage reductions should have at least 30% reductions including normals. I know that the purpose of modern controls is to have players get into the game instantly but, I think it should only be used for casual games or practicing combos. Players should learn the classic way to play in platinum.
Mena was so fucking salty after that Booce match. He also looked extra fat.
>>499627242Gameplayfags in the fgc did the same thing too. Fgc shit on NRS games for years for being easy mode and overly casual friendly becuz of block buttons, no traditional motion style moves or timing heavy combos. Now SF6 introduced parry that functionally works similar to a block button(which COTW is also doing) and Modern Controls is easier of a input system than anything any NRS game has ever offered.
>>499581989Cammy is so so so so pathetically weak in this game. Her kit litetally doesnt work. Divekicks hurtboxes need to be fixed, hooligan needs to be faster, spin knuckle NEEDS its projectile invul put back (why did they remove that?) Shes unplayable in her current state
>>499635174I love this copy pasta, made me giggle... good one anon
>>499632549>this is usually ken or chun playersWeird, from my experience it's mostly Bison, Akuma and Ryu players. Though granted I don't play many Chun-Li in ranked
>>499635292Bro she literally doesnt have a single strong thing in her moveset. If she came out as a newcomer today everyone would be complaining about how her moveset doesnt work at all. Shes useless, i dont care if punk won evo with her, that just means that everyone at evo didnt lab tbe matchup and they all suck, simple as, theres literally no benefit to playing cammy
>>499635630LOL, this is so good... man thanks for the laugh early in the morning bro
>>499632052>reads patch notes>cammys hooligan doesnt get buffed (still useless and reactable) >cammys spin knuckle still has its projectile invul removed>cammys divekick still has a giant hurtbox for no reason and still gets auto inturrupted by every button in the game>cammy still has worse buttons than chun, ken, kimberly, rashid, aki and ryu>cammy still does no damageBack to 3S and tf2, not playing slime game until cammy is fully fixed and functional.
>>499635748You have over 400 ms reaction time. Thats why you lose to cammy. If you could react youd never lose to her, ever. But you cant react so you lose to her.
>>499635934Cammy is like top 6 what the fuck do you mean?
>>499635934>cammy still has worse buttons than chunCammy has the better LP, MP, 2MP and 2HP than Chun. Her HK is equally good but for different reasons. I don't know why you want all of her neutral skips to be buffed when they're perfectly fine as it is. Honestly I think that Cammy is overall fine, she is very strong but not to the point where it's bullshit. Maybe a nerf to her wake up EX divekick and remove throw loop (though this applies to every characters who have it)
>responding to Cammyschizo
wonder how the bdj guile arc is going to go
>>499636389Shes bottom 1 or 2 only one comparable is manon but at least manon can do SOME damage, cammy has nothing good right now.>>499636457Cammy buttons are FAR worse than all of chuns, chuns lp and mp are especially better and cammys hk doesnt exist against chun. Cammy doensnt have any "neutral skips" she has liability moves that do nothing for her but get her punished. Cammy is absurdly weak. Also she has NO overhead or fireball at all, she needs a throw loop. She should be the only one with a throw loop, that would make the most sense
>c*mmy players
jinrai is le bad
>>499637135>chuns lpBro no, they nerfed it, now she has a big extended hurtbox >mpChun's MP is very very limited due to it's very short range. Cammy's MP is amazing in neutral, great range, only -1 on block, it's very easy to confirm too. Great when you have oki and frame kills. >cammys hk doesnt existlol
THE TOP PLAYER IS HERE
>>499636040This copy pasta is so good dude, great work>>499637552thats a lot of nuts!
>>499637491Chun LP still recovers faster, is longer, does more hitstun than cammysChuns mp isnt shorter than cammys at all, its the same range. Chuns is also faster on startup and recovery and harder to punish, far far better move in neutral and okCammys st.hk sucks compared to chuns and kens
>>499637837THAT'LL BE FIVE BUCKS BABY, YOU WANT FRIES WITH THAT?
>>499637491>Arguing with the Cammy TroonBro is so funny, this guy is like hardstuck silver
>>499638362blackest, crispiest nigga you've ever seen too
Why the FUCK isn't drive reversal's input BACK OR DOWNBACK + DII've gotten a mistaken drive impact or gotten hit so many times because I have to let go of block to do a fucking move that requires you to block in the first place
i get the feeling that capcom wanted to put the MR system right from the getgo(especially since they announced this feature before launch) but decided to put in a feelgood ranking system before master just to retain players then funnel them into master just so there's a population of players for people who have the balls to tolerate a proper elo systemit's brilliant, really
>>499638437probably exacty for that, so you cant be fully save if you fuck up
can you imagine? Your entire sf experience being dix?
>>499638437i hate the input too, but as a charge player your idea sounds much more annoying
>>499638521they really should have just done mr from the start because the player pools are too small for it everywhere but in japan now. another thing i asked sajam and he deflected about
>>499638362Ive never played ranked in my life because i have seen a vagina irl. Cammy is trash in slime game.
>>499638685>because the player pools are too small for it everywhere>everywhereare you talking about super high mr? because i can get matches within seconds regardless of what hour i play at 1500
>>499638616there's people who grew up with sf5. which in actuality means they grew up with dbfz which is maybe even worse.
>>499638616I think as long as you're enjoying street fighter man it doesn't matter which one you started at.>>499638770your face doesnt count as a vagina anon, stop crying already
No seriously how do you play this game without DP?When the 1400MR hold up on wake up and you go for a throw do you just hold that? Same when Terry does his infinite?
>>499638770>spends time psychotically downplaying his favorite coomer character in a game he doesn't play>"i have seen a vagina irl"Big doubt
>>499638789it's unbalanced as fuck. someone in 1200 should really not be playing someone in 1550 because that's a huge gap but this happens all the time. i've also seen plenty of 1500 to mid 1600s players matched with 1900 players which is also always a one sided beating
>>499638842Cope again. Cammy is weak.
>>499638918Cope again. Cammy is weak in slime game
>>499639079You're brown.
>>499638907by playing bison where your offensive options greatly make up for your lack of defensive ones
There are 1300MR players out there with a better neutch than most 1500.It's weird i don't know how these guy lose, but they absolutely smoke me, though i'm really slow to adapt.
>>499639141Cope
>>499639079>>499638954>>499638064>>499637135>>499635934
>>499638907also, if they're neutral jumping a lot, that's when you start walking up and using your cr.hp if it isn't a garbage button
>>499639293I think he's probably indian actually.
>>499639293problem?
>>499639746X
>>499629375I remember people on Twitter dunking on this video because the guy was too analytical about things the average Joe wouldn't mind.The guy worked as an animator for fucking Pixar.
Jamals really crashing out over cammy not being SS Tier and only S Tier...
>>499640027Shes d tier at best
nigga thinking with his dick tier
>>499636457>Cammy has the better LPChun has the best jab in the game and it's not even close. I hate downplaying Chunrillas.
COSTUME 4 LEAK?!
>>499640285It's not season 1 anymore brother
>>499640425Shit gets clipped by fucking everything under the sun now
>>499640506Yeah it's very easy to get punish countered after pressing it
Are we downplaying the gigantic 4f that combos on CH with cr.MK 10/10?
>>499640425The "nerf" changes nothing about the fact that it is the longest reaching rapid-cancelling light in the game with the most braindead spacing trap and baby confirm options paired with the fuckhuge stab hands thing she has>>499640506I guarantee you still play by wiggling around and mashing on that big ass stop sign from halfscreen away just like before, along with every other Chun player
>>499639787Not Pixar, but worked for Disney for Avengers: Endgame.
Cammy players... is this what hrt does to someone? makes them go insane and spaz out on 4chan???
>>499629375i ended up watching the entire video, it's actually a pretty solid animation class overall, i wish he did it after release though, getting the examples off low bitrate youtube beta leaks feels unfair, even though it probably wouldn't have made that much of a difference anyway
>>499640802>>499640960>Are we downplaying the gigantic 4f that combos on CH with cr.MKNo of course it's still a very good button, it's just not as safe now. We're only saying that Cammy has the best jab now
>>499629375>>499639787>>499641059>>499641206The animation autist guy is back posting his hour long video kek
I miss crush counters and +ob normals.Mashing and delay mashing is too rewarding and easy in this game.
>>499639787>was too analytical about things the average Joe wouldn't mind.I mean, that's true. NRS still sells a fuck ton despite looking and being animated like ass. People don't care about that stuff.
>>499641734I miss crush counter because it's extremely annoying to see people fishing with unwhiffpunishable mediums in neutral that lead into full drive rush combos and my best counterplay against it is to do the same thing and pray I hit them instead of them hitting meAt least a crush counter heavy is going to be punishable on reaction, nobody is fucking whiff punishing the average crouching strong on reaction
>>499641801It's not that they don't care, it's that for the average gamer having better graphics and going more towards photorealism is better than having a cohesive or stylized art direction, even if chasing that visual definity and definition means those games will fall into uncanny valley territory.
I've lost all hope for SF6The entire drive system is a badly designed house of cards were you can't make any meaningful changes without everything else falling apart, and I unironically think its current iteration is as good as it's going to getThe only solution would be to get rid of it completely but obviously they're not going to do that
>>499641954You can definitely punish crouch strong on reaction.
>>499642643Imagine realizing this after two years. lol
>>499642194>definity*fidelity
>>499642643They can>change how much drive mechanics cost>add delayed wakeup>cr.mk drive rush cancel jab isn't a true blockstringAnd the game is fixed
perfect parry is a clown mechanic. do people actually enjoy this?
>>499643829noparry made sense in 3s, not in 6 and the way it's implemented is awful, they should have kept it on a forward input
>>499643510>add delayed wakeupWhy tho? The game is extremely volatile, because the player who lost an interaction is already pretty dangerous being flat on his back.I'd rather see the damage toned down overrall and a BUNCH of specials being made unsafe.
>>499643989>parry made sense in 3sit made even less sense there>they should have kept it on a forward inputyou're a retard
>>499644103you're right they shouldn't have added it in the first place but even then, the way it's implemented right now there's no risk in doing itjust because in 3s OS were prominent doesn't mean that it was poorly implemented for it
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S280Pqq3T_wSF6's ost
When is SPD going to get armor?
>>499643829It's a spectator mechanic, it's not for the player.Turd Strike was a failure of a game loved by people who did not play it and mashers addicted to its system mechanics; the only reason this game is remembered is because of EVO Moment 37 and its graphics.The game was built around parrying in the hope of recreating it every game, you can tell every part of the gameplay was bent and twisted to adjust to it.
>>499644315it'll get better when they remix them in future games
>>499617281>>499619128>>499618849>>499617131I mean the dude lives in Japan not America. Bad mouthing your company in Japan is probably the worst thing you can do in their society. Guy is lucky he just got a warning and not put in one of those do nothing rooms for months
do I spend $200 on a hitbox or a personalized OF video where she will say my name
>>499641682Wipe that cum off your face
>>499645201....what no pussy does to a nigga
>>499645587crackwhore face
>>499645201Why not spend it on a real prostitute? she will call you whatever you want and suck your dick for $200and then she will get herself a hitbox and own your ass in ranked
>>499645201whatever hitbox you are thinking of buying is going to be functionally identical to any cheap as fuck 50 dollar chinese hitbox
>>499645587went from her own thing to android 18 but uglier
>>499646490*but prettier
>>499646601>>499646490cammy is android 18 forma de crackwhorealso nice shoulders on your shitty mod LMAOOO
>>499645587went from sexist design to powerful dommy mommy gf
>*but prettier
This is a character's throw animation in GBVS. Dix WISHES it had this much soul.
>>499647691god ,this is so CUTE
>>499647691do grown men play this game
>>499647887yeah, me
>>499647887yes and they got unmetered drive rush
>>499647691this looks like a literal mickey mouse game bro
>>499647691id play this more if i tolerated playing multiple fighters at once
>>499647691Okay this is actually funny
>>499647691>new game gets rollback netcode>but loses the grounded neutral the original game was known for66L is basically meterless Drive Rush. Game is mad wack.t. Retired GBVS player.
Jive is fun
>>499645587P U F F YUFFY
>>499648540wow its almost like another game i know
>>499647887Evident by its player numbers, no they don't. No one does
only modern non-anime fighter that has positive steam reviews on both recent and overallalso has the most players playing even when japan is asleepsf6WON
>>499648951if it wasn't called street fighter nobody would play itsame with dbfz
>>499647691this is what her super looks like btw
>>499649149yeah but it is. and sf is simply the most powerful fighting game franchise and 6 is pushing it to new heights
>>499612009Being in the corner after a single combo from round start is the biggest problem in the game. They need to extend the length of each stage by 50%.
>>499649447the stages are already longer than they were in jive tho
>>499649447xian had this suggestion like a year ago but it didnt get traction. he said himself there's issues with that though (guile and jp)
bettygods I kneeru
>>499647691this is funny but its not soul, its literally the opposite of soul. A corporate rehash of an old played out meme that only ironic weebs would find enjoyable.
Day 3 of mindlessly grinding out this Guile combo so I can get it once in training mode instead of doing literally everything else. I love combos!!
>>499649179Well in people with infinite regenerating resource, winner is the one who can extract the most value from it. What do you expect them to do, not spend drive?This makes me wonder what if you start with 0 drive, not in burnout but on a pixel and regeneration just started. Will it allow people to start rounds in a more stable fashion?
>>499612009broski only complains about cr.mk drive rush because aki personally can't do it. He'd be relying on that shit if hers was cancelled.
>>499650149But he also complained about throw loops which AKI has
>>499649797i know that she is a sponsored streamer with basically a corpo backing, but how did she got there, is she someone daughter or smthg?
>>499650135>What do you expect them to docomplain to capcom and demand they make a better game
>>499650149He also gets really defensive whenever someone brings up that fireball drive rush should be removed from the game even though it's 10 times worse
If you had to build drive by hitting and blocking and then choose to carefully use it for one DRC or like 3 drive rushes, then it would actually be like a traditional fighting game meter and would actually be good.
>>499649314Mickey Blue
>>499648951>also has the most players playing even when japan is asleepfalse, and the game still ass.
>>499650586isnt NRS games have regenerating meters for a while now? how it was received there?
>>499649797in awe of the size of the lad on the left>>499650135>This makes me wonder what if you start with 0 drive, not in burnout but on a pixel and regeneration just started. Will it allow people to start rounds in a more stable fashion?I don't think Capcom would do this consider most positive reviews of SF6 mentioned they loved how free form the drive system let you play since you started with full meter
Apparently "Soul" means giving a game/character redundant unnecessary flair or references/easter eggs now.
>>499650297>>499650297>is she someone daughter or smthg?yes
>>499650098thats probably the hardest bnb in the entire game nigga. i cannot do that shit and i'm not as retarded as you (no offense)
>ripping your hair out over sf6 combosgod you weenies would have killed yourselves if you had to play street fighter 4. Just enjoy the game and come up with a combo you can do that uses parts of the hard combo you're studying. You'll slowly unlock more of it as you get better, that's the fun in fighting games.During ancient times, you would run into someone and ask yourself "does he know how to do the OH SHIT HE DOES" and his power level would shoot up, but maybe his neutral is not as strong so you could still beat him there. It made his character DIFFERENT than the next guy you fight who used the same character.
I've seen a lot of complaints about SF6.2 out of 3 are too volatile.Too many guessing situations.Throw loops and Drive rush are too strong.I'm sure there's more lolAre you guys saying that SFV was better because I didn't see THIS MUCH complaining in comparison. :thinking:Street Fighter is a VERY tough FG to be GREAT at. It takes A LOT to get there and the issue is ALWAYS you the player. Your decisions whether it be at the character select screen or in the matches. SF will EXPOSE player weaknesses...
>>499650098gl bdj
>>499651267SF5 has problems but SF6 magnifies those same problems.
>>499649314>15 sec cinematicI'm tired
>>499651242>During ancient timeseh it's still like that, atleast in metal ranks
>>499650297whose son is this?
how DARE you question betty's authenticity. Have at you, knave!
>>499651710shuckle and betty are /ourgirls/ so don't be mean to them
>>499651881does shuckle even still play? i thought she dropped the game after akuma wasn't to her liking
>>499651242I also played sf4
Sajam debunked drive rush being a braindead mechanic btwHe conclusively proved doing crMK slime takes just as much skill as jive single hit confirms
>>499652558Sajam is hardstuck 1500MR
>>499652558SAJAM is a shill that loves any fighting game that pays for his billsImagine unironically saying 2XKO is """""good""""
>>499652558Sajam called Sonicsol a slur once
>>499652840based
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nhylqNdcwYw
>>499652558I think for myself.
>>499653331Yikes...Big 'I do my own research' energy from this post
>>499652713Whats wrong with 2XKO and how would you fix it?
>The failed injustice pro said...
if you play like you're extra thirsty to beat me i'm ragequitting. simple as that
>>499653284broski needs to delete this video, drive reversal is bad as it is
>>499652558https://youtu.be/71d4rqQjnTc?si=dSUK1_AXHkadThZU&t=180Sajam also said Mickey Mouse. Does he browse here?
>>499653507I think it's the worst tag game ever created aside from the shitty ones like Power Rangers, which this shares a lot withI won't even talk about the production value such as art style and music and more because that's horrible but also it gets the "IT'S AN ALPHA" statement from retards, I think it will remain bad just like Valorant didLet's start off with Riot games just making derivative games but worse, the movement is anime slow, the combos are generally boring, it's another tag game of blockstring mixup instead of movement mixups. Let's pretend for a moment that the idea of MVC was to have all these characters with very wildly different movesets and movement clash in the same game, under sanitized sterile competitive circumstances this may be seen as bad but what if you could cover your character's weaknesses with your assists? If I play a rushdown character maybe I want an assist that allows me to mix the opponent (this is every tag game now) but what if I play a zoner then I want an assist that will let me handle opponents when they close the distance and then you have these many different playstyles in just one team, or you can rely on your point character and build a team around it. This whole philosophy is missing from 2XKO because it's yet another "your assist is your mix" game and blockstrings need to end or else the players get mad. It's a simple game with flaws from other games, just like whatever Riot does. I could keep going but you should be able to form an opinion for yourself if you played the test they had, none of it was impressive.
>>499649797they look like a band
>>499654157Who do you think keeps making all the racist posts
not reading this
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reading this
>>499654873what is the mentality behind posts like this? like do you have any beliefs or are you trying to post whatever you think will look the stupidest?
Damn, SF6 actually won...
>>499651267>Sanford and mike ross literally can't treat it seriously and will never compete in it>still insist its a serious game because of JDS
>>499653284it fucking works
>>499651507>metal ranksi'm stealing this indirect sneak diss
>>499652618is he really
what would fix Kimberly and bring out her unique gameplay?I have a theory that she's Dix's Laura because her mixups are vaguely reminiscent, and watching an Idom stream some days ago, he actually mentioned that she has the same elbow left right mix up that Laura had, except it gets neutered by perfect parry and that's why he doesn't play her (and is one of the only character I think he hasn't bothered to get to master)
>>499658763have her spraycans interact with her teleport in some way so it isn't cr.hp bait anymore
Sex with Ryu
>>499652558Why did everybody take this bait? You don't even need to exaggerate his opinion to argue against it. This is misleading. This is what he actually said: >>499595738
>>499595738post it as a comment in his video he may lose it
Sex with Mickey
>>499659029this sounds gay and random as fuck. fuck, I just remembered Kimberly has teleports, there's no way she can be as cool as Laura, that shit is cheap as fuck, not skillful
what do you guys reckon the budget of sf6 was?
too much because the talent left
>>499661487cute
>>499661756Too much since they dumped a shitload into WT, and not enough to streamline costumes. Shit company
honestly i fucking kekd hard at this happeningi needed the parry practice anyway
>>499663251Totsugeki?
>>499663251people think this character is worse than Manon btw
>can maintain being in 1500 with relative ease now after a few weeks in master when my first character a few months after launch took me months to get to 1500i am satisfied with my progress at the end of this phase
>take a break from sf6 for a month>can't react to DI anymorethis game SUCKS
>>499664738when does it reset?
>>499667997when october ends
games anyone? worldwide diamond+
Guile was too hard for me. Oh well.
>>499670342back to ken for you?
https://x.com/614_purasann/status/1849387797020618988
wherehttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KpXLUwkt9Pw
>>499671146god damn he is cute
>>499671538get with the times boomerhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_2Y3UBG1oOs
>>499671538this, the SF6 girls are in desperate need of some stiff pipe. who's gonna do it? jamie? luke? foh
>>499672138ed will see his daddy soon
>>499673178Doesn't he have bigger issues? Isn't he rapidly aging and dying?
I hate dog6 but at least it gave us this amazing screenshot
>>499673962whats wrong? get up!
>>499671702that's a guy?
>>499673962this image made jivers spiral into insanity
>>499674183He's being very funny calling obv women traps.
>>499659086I've been dreaming about the same thing for a very, very long time..
>>499674825you're blind
>start session>suddenly my brain is completely unable to do charge moveswhy the FUCK does this happen sometimes
https://streamable.com/heuj3shttps://streamable.com/qcjyhrI don't have it in me to do the constant diamond 1/plat 5 loop again, so I'm dropping him. Kinda sucks because he seems fun but his execution is just beyond retarded and his anti airs suck (but at this point I think every single character in SF6 just has bad anti airs on purpose so it's kind of a given).
>>499675551nta but do you have any proof or reasoning then
>>499676337yeah not even nuckledu single mains him dont bother until they buff him
>>499675564What do you mean? Did you take a break so it feels unfamiliar, or are you just doing it too quickly? Sometimes your brain will decide it wants to optimize something but it'll go a bit too far. It's annoying but the more you correct it the better you'll be. In theory anyways.
>>499676337>his anti-airs sucknigga
>>499676613it's like i regularly do it fine but there are rare moments (like twice so far) where my brain just simply does the input wrong for the entire session, so i have to completely stop playing for it to correct itselfthis is mainly the down+up motion. left+right is w/e
>>499676927Show me you doing this vs Devil's Reverse and if you whiff one you have to put the controller down and give up on the round.
>his anti airs suck>sees guile anti airing bison from a full screen jump inok
so uhh when they nerfing gief again
>>499675551retard
>>499677076two more weeks along with costume 4 and chip damage
>>499677001i'm too adhd to play charge but you have to really go out of your way to make his flash kick man come on. it covers like half the screen
>>499677345i mean it does suck vs devils reverse but everything sucks vs devils reverse. cpt qualifiers get mixed by that shit
>>499677076lol
>>499676337i thought you played charge in anime games, figured this should be easier for you.
>>499676337Unironically you're correct on your assesment for the first time bdj, don't listen to non-players >>499676927Guile's AAs have pretty much never been this ass in forever and I play Guile (nash in a2) in every single sf ever except turd strike, bronzies here thought I was joking then Du said it and everybody went ":O"
>>499677748I look just like this!
>>499677640If you want the perfect example of why SF6 is hard execution compared to games like Strive then charging is like the perfect example. You have to charge a retardedly long amount to do anything at all in this game.
>>499677640nta but charge in strive is significantly shorter than in sf6. you need to be holding it for an eternity in this game
>>499677921im fapping to you looking like that
>>499677974To be fair, the charge time for most moves in Strive is like 20 frames or something. They're basically motion inputs for people with anxiety
>>499677974Didn't you play 4? Charge times were REALLY long pre-V, 6 still feels fast
>>499676949Oh damn, I thought I was the only one that happened too. Yeah that's mad annoying, no clue why it happens besides your brain being lazy and try to invent shortcuts for things that don't apply. I'm planning on forcing myself to complete all the trials since I suck ass at those and maybe pick a secondary character to hopefully force myself to have a bit more control.
>>499601306Unique the same way freezing a shit solid and painting it with gold and diamonds is "unique".
>>499678081>>499678271Yeah that's my point. It's hard, things like st.mp, cr.mp flashkick should be a bnb but it's basically impossible.>>499678471I played Chun in 4 (because she was the only char I knew how to combo into an ultra with lol) so I wouldn't really know, it felt fine with her.
For all the bad things about SF6 I'll say one good thing:They did a good job with most designs in this game (ignoring newcomers). Sucks that the game look is shit but that's RE Engine for you.
>>499644839he's dumb for messing up dat bag but but its not a real tournament, its a reality show
>Some costumes 4 leaked>no one posted it
>>499680316Post it then retard
>>499679879
>>499680350Not if you ask it that way.
Climbing through diamond for the first time and around half of my loses are because my super doesn't come out and I'm not exaggeratingHow the fuck is this input reader acceptable, this shit doesn't happen to me on any other fighting game
>>499680316post it then, cutie?
>>499680653Be more like this guy.Ask and you shall receive.
>>499680721Jamie!
>>4996806461, did you check the replay and confirm your inputs weren't bad lol 2, were you even in a situation where you could super 3, should it matter? When I am grinding d5 to master with a new character nootch wins the match for the most part.
>>499680316Please I'm begging you anon
>>499680721wtf new blonde cutie at top??
>>499681062See >>499680721
>>499680350
>>499680721UOOOOHHH CHUNNERSCUTE CUTE CUTESEXY LEGS
>>499681108Anon... it's Cammy...
>>499646504i can smell the Old Spice from here
>>499681108she looks like she has a divekick too!
Terry's back walk speed is fucking abysmal for a shoto-like characterIf I get thrown while being sure I was going to shimmy again I think I'm going to cry
Funny thing is that this leaked like 10 hours ago, it's not even new.
>>499681464>costume 4 release date on sundayNice
>>499680721Jamiebros, I'm thinking we're fucking back
>>499680721Where did you get this leak bro
>>499681967Discord.
another chance for me to give capcom money. sf6 is fucking saved!
>>499682030It's alright, you don't have to play the game lil Timmy
>>499681275Oh, she looks different
>>499681995okay thanks
>>499680721Who’s Chun marrying?
>>499682156Long hair.
>>499682186Ryu
Finally an official costume with Chun's bare legs in the beauty engine
>>499680721So when are these costumes being allowed to be purchase as a bundle and without using their shitass premium currency again?
>>499681643This is probably just going to be the first 5 concept arts they show and then another long, long wait until the actual release
>>499682473put negative reviews on steam and ask for it
>>499681441You know, it's actually exactly the same as pretty much every shoto you'd think of. His forward walk speed is even faster than average!It's just that the animation looks so slow that it doesn't feel the way it is, which happens a lot in games.
>>499681026>1I checked my replays, of course it doesn't show the inputs were correct (usually my "problem" is that during the second QCF the game registers a down-forward instead of a down input), but my point is that this shit doesn't happen to me in any other fighting gamesThere is something uniquely retarded about the way SF6 processes inputs, and googling about this it seems to be a common complaint>2I'm not that stupid man>3Yes it should, losing a match that you had already won fucking sucks
>>499682535meanwhile bison feels faster than every shoto but his walkspeed is average
>>499682509Ah damn, you're probably right...
I may get backlash for saying this but I'm just gonna say it.SF6 sux
>>499681749what the fuck is this weird ass picture that gets randomly posted sometimes
Remember when you had to counter hit confirm correctly?
>>499683440Remember when you had to hit confirm?
is it worth playing Kimberly if I want a character like Laura? Are there even any former Laura mains who even remember what it was like to play the most genuinely unique newcomer since 3rd strike?
>>499683640Closest thing to Laura is Manon.
Support Hershuar
https://fixvx.com/614_purasann/status/1849387797020618988?s=46&t=BNMdbEecZqOqE07FbYmEAA
>>499581989I don't get it. What makes Kimberly so authentic as Nakayama puts it? She is a black anima ninja...I don't get it. To me Balrog feels far more authentically black than Kimberly does in comparison. Like I could look at Rog and buy the idea he grew up in a black neighborhood and came from that culture. Kimberly feels like a redditors idea of black character.And another thing Rog archetype is actually linked to a style of fighting that Black Amerians are most known for popularizing, boxing. Kimberly is just following the recent trend of taking a black person and giving them a east asian fighting style, i.e black samurai, black ninja, black karate/kung fu guy.
>>499683640Our local best laura plays on kim, says she is fun and have a lot of options, frustrated for no good reversal and low damage. Try it? not like you need to buy her with dlc
>>499684156>rogracist stereotype>kimberlymade by rogettes
>>499682535worth noting, I think Terry also has a bad Juri-style throw loop where he has to commit to a forward dash and the only way he gets to shimmy is backdash.
>>499684349>racist stereotypeHe is literally Mike Tyson though...
>broski: you can't react to drive reversal after a meaty jablmao do genelets really?
>>499684921jarvis post balrog's character art from cvs chaos
>>499684921he started out as a good mike tyson clone, but then was morphed into random nigga off the street
>>499685036post 30 seconds
who else is close to jp capcom, that's our next guests
kim is prime backshot material
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jYEIRk0cwbkCute interview but, you doomers wont like it
>>499685430it's me, I live next door
>>499683691>Closest thing to Laura is Manon.Manon has negative mixups dude, and no gimmick even close to Laura's projectile. Don't get me wrong, I love Manon too, but she's her own thing. Honestly Manons identity is like having no true gimmick. People will mention the medals, but that's just more damage to the same move. Jamie gets entirely new moves and bonuses with his drinks, new combo routes, mixups, etc.I like Manon because she's honest, but that's all she is. The most honest character in the game with a gimmick that's random, to mask how honest she is.
I can't wait for Mai so I can finally play with a ninja.
>>499685532I would grab her hair like a horse saddle
>>499685562its good because it confirms random twitterfags do have influence, and that Matsumoto wants more street fighter characters instead of guests
>>499684921>no lisp>doesn't like pigeons>doesn't solve mysteries in his spare time>literally mike tysonYeah ok buddy, what's next saying something like how fei long is literally bruce lee? That's pretty racist if you ask me.
>>499684310>Our local best laura plays on kim, says she is fun and have a lot of options, frustrated for no good reversal and low damage. Try it? not like you need to buy her with dlcYeah, maybe this is what I need to enjoy the game. The characters I play are way too honest and basically have one gameplan so they're mega vulnerable. Maybe Kim is weak, but maybe I won't get as frustrated if I always have an option is mix to fall back on. She definitely feels obnoxious on the receiving end.
>>499685926why does he like pigeons so much anyways, isn't a normal pet bird just better
>>499685419honestly some characters just look too exaggerated to ever be truly appealing, I'm sorry. Its impressive to have a body like that in real life (and even then post but clarity will highlight the ridiculousness unless it looks mega natural) but when you're supposed to look at this character as an actual fighter, and see her in these goofy ass contexts holding up a phone to the mirror for a shot of her wide ass booty, It just looks stupid.
Episode 11 (and Mai) waiting thread
>>499685756>so I can finally play with a ninja.Kimberly exists bro
>>499685341you should be hit confirming your meaty jabs anyways. stops you from whiffing tick throws, and ken has a link to mp that is really good on hit but bad on block so you should hit confirm it.
timmy really wrote a dissertation after seeing chun lis ass
nigga thinks he can hit confirm of a jab luhmeow
>>499686669genelet. i've been doing it since kamiV.
I'll be waiting for like two months from now when everyone is saying it if he doesn't get changes with the Mai patch, Terry is fucking assLike bottom 10 for sure, worst of the shotos
>>499686870just use ken bro
>>499686782show yourself hitconfirming off a single jab 10 times in training mode
>>499685974https://fixupx.com/i/status/1836933297185902924
>>499686225I disagree
>>499686959I don't want to use Ken, but Terry just feels utterly shit in terms of interactions to actually killAnd I used to play Jamie for fucks sake
>>499686091You'd have to ask him, but pigeons are cool. You can train them to deliver letters and stuff and they will come back to you, there's a whole culture around racing pigeons competitively. Not sure what you mean by better but different breeds have their own unique regal looks as well which stands out a lot more than most cockatiels imo.
there's literally no way terry is bad
>>499687253No u see, he has a fireball and a dp, but he's not top 5, so HES TRASH ASS WORTHLESS WASTE OF SPACE
When it comes to black chars, Japanese companies should revert back to their pop culture based design philosophy of taking black chars/celebs in media, music, & sports and turning them into fighting game characters. That approach produced chars way more authentically black than sweet baby inc approved chars like Kimberly.
*yolo run into overhead*IT'S ALL OR NOTHING
*randomly heavy dragonlashes in neutral the one time you weren't ready to intercept it*
>>499686494I said ninja, not ningger
Don't look up BlueDJ's Akuma win rate
>>499687469They should've gotten lil wayne as a consultant for Kimberly. That way nobody would have said shit if she turned out slightly ratchet instead of extremely stacy oreo.
>>499653284>>499655480So drive reversal is now literally useless in the corner if your opponent knows their option selects?
Strange that nothing came out related to SF6 of that megaleak that hit Capcom a few years ago. I would like to hear more of the apparently complicated history of development that led to the game being basically rebooted at one point.Are those files still up somewhere?
>>499687142Shit like this seriously makes me wonder why Idom is playing Manon and not Kimberly, he literally said himself that he loves mixups and ironically all of his mains in all fighting games are mixup characters. Either he must feel that Kimberly plays too much like an SF6 character and hates that more than he likes mixups, which would explain why he plays Manon since she's the most pure character divorced from the system mechanics. She just plays the game.
>>499689460Kimberly isn't a futa
>>499616308Not sure if that guy's down with the syndrome or not
jive walked so dix could slime
>>499689743which characters are futa coded?
https://x.com/RAM_DOGGO/status/1810463885167571009?t=SMkngz_ThxHmTItjKfZY3Q&s=19watching this clip. its pretty obvious how Kimberly could be balanced, while simultaneously having all these crazy mixes...the non existence of drive rush.no drive rush would make her having to hit confirm more important, but would also make it so that her combos don't extend forever, which would allow her to not have "float like a butterfly sting like a bee" tier damage. seriously the more I look at her, the more I think that she's definitely the Laura of this game, except 10x more dishonest because the drive system exists and she abuses it like a mfer.I think we should consider it a miracle she isn't broken, these clips make her look like a unique character.
>>499689460i feel like kim is a prime character to shit in your opponents head with 200 setups and then randomly DI him
>>499690562Those mixups are flashy but wack.
who has the best AA normal? manon?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nhylqNdcwYwI hate option selects
What happened to MenaRD? He went from winning most tournaments to nowhere to be seen
>>499690963Juri's cr.HP is pretty good, and she can AA with cr.mp, and have DP with 2 different directions
>>499691236Was winning EVO Japan an entry into Capcom Cup? I don't remember but if it was he doesn't have to do anything
Mickey6.
>>499690920>Those mixups are flashy but wack.You mean they're fake/not practical?
>>499691236he qualified for CC and went on vacation
>>499691476Yeah. They may work once in a while, but most high level Kimberly would rather focus on less intricated mixups.
>>499690963>who has the best AA normal?what is "AA"?
>>499690920This game desperately needs more wack and flashy stuff
>>499689460He is a waifu fag so it isn't purely about gameplay style. And the fact is that Idom finds black women unattractive so he won't ever play Kimberly. Idom is the typically self hating nerd nigga.
Outside of sheer looks, why would one play Kimberly instead of Rashid? Same mix-up centric character but with an OD reversal and a broken lv2 super. There's really not much Kimberly has that Rashid lacks.
>>499691691that's honestly good for me, because she'd be too complicated if those were her normal mixups, set up feels too situational and id probably get more triggered trying to set shit up, just to fuck up one thing because it's a super specific situational thing.
>>499691236They got rid of the point system so you can just do whatever if you qualify through a premier tournament which MenarD did.
>>499691383>Was winning EVO JapanMena won Evo Japan? Wtf? When
>>499691731>And the fact is that Idom finds black women unattractive so he won't ever play Kimberly.Then what's this about that Elena Jambo meme fanart with him.Also Idom doesn't strike me as that shallow. How do you explain his Marvel 3 team? We already know he's somebody that doesn't care about playing top tier, so that doesn't count as an explanation.
>>499686995what do you do when ed does od dp? you just eat it? jabbing and blocking if he dp's is pretty common
https://www.youtube.com/shorts/9WQvYCpN_Rwused a cheatbox? You didn't win.
>>499691692anti-air
is this guy really asking some racist about why idom won't pick Kimberly
>>499692891That's fucking ILLEGAL
>>499693102Well I'm asking anybody who's willing to answer is all. I'm curious, should I not ask questions if I'm curious? Even if he's trolling, I lose nothing, other than maybe some random retard looking in from outside perceiving me poorly.Part of the reason so much discussion and engagement online is so garbage is because people are afraid to engage, they quickly and dismissively characterize anything they hear that they immediately don't like and especially don't want to believe as "trolling". To the point that it gets applied to a ridiculously broad degree. If people in general were better and counteracted "trolling" with well reasoned and thought out responses then this wouldn't even be an issue, and the venomous attitude that simply engaging with differing opinions has garnered wouldn't be so inundated. But the entire internet is garbage, and so is everybody in it. So good things can never be good.
>>499688432this proves akuma doesnt carry
>>499692891you probably can do dp with the same setup, you will just need to hold forward
>>499692891How is pressing down two times hard to do?
kims entire gameplan is nullified by parry. I thought that was pretty clear.Even if you take the throw and get juggled by the bomb, she can only do it one more time and you're not even at half health.
>>499693816You missed the entire point. It's all about fast reactions, and the video suggests that his method is crucial for it.
>>499692661It's pretty obvious why Idom would play someone like Elena and not Kimberly, like do you have eyes? Elena doesn't look anything like a monoracial black woman.
>>499693838nobody is denying or questioning why Kim is weak. I brought up Kim because I was curious about a character that possibly plays close to Laura from SFV, and also a side inquiry on why Idom doesn't play her considering that he doesn't shy away from weak characters.My theory is that despite Kim's gameplay, she plays too similarly to every other rush down SF6 character so he finds that boring. Manon is like the anti SF6, she uses the system mechanics the worst, and doesn't even have crmk drive rush, she doesn't even have a fireball either, she's like the most "plain" and therefore honest character in the game, and maybe that fact makes her different enough for Idom to enjoy playing.
>all of Chun's lights are special cancellable >she can't do the option select against drive reversalIt's never been more over
its jamies brithday, you faggots
Look, If you want Kim buffs, then Dhalsim needs more buffs to compensate. I'm not dealing with another god awful MU. Ratshit and Bison is enough of a headache with Sim, now you want kookily ass Kimberly to get touched up. Might as well remove Sim from the game at that point.
Jambo!
>>499694817ineedujambo
>>499694797>Look, If you want Kim buffsCan you be more specific about who you're replying to, because I don't think anybody is saying they want Kim buffs
I hope that leak from Reddit about Sakura getting long hair is not true.
>>499694604Happy birthday jamie
>>499694797True, fuck Kim. Sim is unplayable, except against clowns that just refuse to watch a 5 minute clip on how to beat him. Hes playing a different street fighter game
leaked Elena arcade modehttps://e-hentai.org/g/1748944/8549ba7eb9/
I'd be fine if they just give her back invincibility to her OD tatsu. I don't think there's much wrong or missing about Kimberly outside of lacking a reversal that isn't a super.
>>499695464>I'd be fine if they just give her back invincibility to her OD tatsu.If they did that I'm one n done'ing & blocking every Kim I come across.
>>499695464This. Can't believe there exist some Tierlists where she's put below Manon, people really be goofin with these tier lists.
redditgief players are carried niggers.
At this point I'm convinced I'll always be a console nigger and never get a good gaming PC
I never quite understood why they removed cr.lk cancels
>>499696750Me neither they look cool to me, woshige dislikes them I guess
how many matches of sf6 do you guys play a day?i played 3 and i dont feel like playing anymore. im 1550 MR
about 0
>>499696927I played a bunch on different characters, i’m trash on them though only like 1400
Most high level replays I see from this game are either Akuma or M. Bison.
Im tired of corner rape
They can keep the same DR speed for all characters but make it so that instant DR is no longer possible as you'd need to stay a few frames longer in Drive Parry before Drive Rush can come out.It could be sort of like when they removed IATK non-EX divekicks to characters like Cammy.
https://youtu.be/N8_vOe6CGSo?si=JEhNy_c2h5-fkaSEI miss arcades
>>499697542That breaks combos, just put punish counter state and widen the hurtbox on all DRs then call it a day
nigga posted majinvappa get the fuck out of here
all yall talk shit then puss out when challenged to a ft5
Costume 4 at long last...
>>499696927until i'm about to pass out from being tired or im horny again
>>49969692730 minutes per session, i don't count the matches>t. 1500
meanwhile in kof... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p-es6sTrU0s
>>499686995this is the most i could do without errors. its like 14 or 15. im not gonna pretend its not hard and it did take me a bit to get but its more than good enough to get mileage out of it in real games. i set ryu to do jab out of blockstun so show that the throw is as tight as it can be. im definitely not the only person doing this in real matches and everyone should be doing it.
>>499696927I normally play like 2hr for weekdays, but I don't get the chance to play every day.
>>499686995>>499698616It's easier to confirm if you look at the opponent's health bar
>>499696927dont play every day but 20-30, plat
>>499698758yeah buts thats gay. i like to look at the character and hitspark and its better for your awareness anyways when they do things like wakeup dp or di or drive reversal
.................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................. eduel
>>499694817she doesn't give me a rhino horn desu
….elena
>>499694382>maybe that fact makes her different enough for Idom to enjoy playing.or maybe he just likes the light-grappler archetype
>>499699471she'll save sf6...
i hate how this is the only place on the internet to talk about the game that doesn't have a(n overwhelming) mix of the following:>overly positive discussion to the point where if you challenge a discussion with something controversial even if it's factual, you'll be attacked(telling people it's possible to reach master with a sub 50% win rate still sets people off)>sub masters who talk big and try to give advice to everyone when that advice is extremely generalized or incorrect information>I JUST REACHED PLAT>people that ignore replays for matches that you need feedback ontwo decades later and this site is always the final fallback
what if instead of hp, elena's level 2 greatly increased her drive gauge regen speed
>>499698519>japanese "horny"
>>499692310in the late winter / early spring
>>499692093teleports and can set-ups?
>>499699524>or maybe he just likes the light-grappler archetypeHe co-mained Poison in SFVHe played Cody in 4He plays Testament in StriveAnd he plays Dante and some other dudes in Marvel, I don't remember. All I know is that none of them are grapplers.He said it himself, that the unifying aspect of all the characters he plays, is having strong mixups. You're goofin
>>499699854jamie already have that
>>499687150I concur, Ryu is the #1 top tiger daddy
>>499700316testament is absolutely not a "strong mix" character, strive testament is more like manon where they play an "honest" footsies fireball game that's kind of lacking compared to a lot of the other characters
>>499699776>telling people it's possible to reach Master with a sub 50% winrate still sets people offI mean I reached Master in SFV with a sub 50% winrate overall. Winrate is not necessarily a good metric even with SF6's ranking system because you're going to lose a ton in the beginning and it skews the data. It's better if you just show them the data that shows how much of the SF6 player base is Master, and then compare it to SFV, so they understand SF6 Master is SFV Gold
>>499700571then that's where you get hit by the "downplaying" accusations. arguing facts against feelings is a waste of one's time.
>they
>>499699776
>>499608173Maybe you just suck.
>>499700316those games are different to sfv & sf6he liked laura and manon is the most similar
>>499700938kek
>>499691731just because you don't like black women intraracially doesn't mean you're self-hating; that's a cope they employ to explain away their own lack of attractiveness and mistreatment of nonconforming black males
Thats fucked
>>499701229That's based.
>>499700378hes so fucking hot
>>499701687it's too bad what juri did to him...
whats the new narrative for shitting on sf6
>>499700938i'm saving that, thanks for the roast
>>499698616I think the guy meant hit confirming as in special canceling.Of course you can confirm and link a jab with whatever.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kGnutyhfIL0Remember when Capcom sued Data East for saying Fighter's History was too similar to Street Fighter II and lost that case? Here's some of the footage Data East used to defend themselves.
>>499701687Yup, I would wash his Gi everyday if I could.>>499701956Yeah, got to his fundoshi before I could! That whore!
>>499702228then hes illiterate because no one said that
>>499646504tragic lack of butt
if a pro ken starts showing how strong jab into mp is, capcom will do an emergency patch to remove it
>>499703120how come only ken gets a sf4 combo, and its not a 1f link?
>>499703120you shitters have been crying about it for over a year and nothing has happened. get over it.
juri also gets to jab into whatever combo she wants meterlessly but only at absolute point blank and it has to be stand jab
>>499703373ken is the golden boy we all know
>>499703381juris lights are kinda ass
>Ranked is all RedditgiefThis mickey character get buffed and now every retard online is playing this faggot.Nerf him to the ground.
if someone keeps mashing jab after i press 1 jab while they're blocking, do i a second jab to beat that? i tried wlaking up throw but they kept hitting me
>>499704097throw them and then jump back 3 times, and the next time hes close you do it again.And if they try to read you with a level one, sweep them and then jump back again.That gets them heated for real
>>499701229Wait, are they not doing a proper LCQ before the finals? What the fuck is this format?
>>499704097you should've seen ranked when snake eyez won that cpt qualifierit was a fucking terrible week online
>>499703120I had no idea he had this but I'm not even surprised, and of course if someone like cammy got something good off her jab everyone would lose their minds. Can't spell carried without ken.
>>499704102>do i a second jab to beat thatDepends on the timing of their mash.Simply mashing lights will beat people mashing jabs instantly out of block.But everyone and their grandmother are using delay jabs it seems, which beats tick throws, i personally haven't found a consistent answer against that.You can do light->medium but it'll lose to a slightly delayed jab, you can delay your own light chains but it's hard to get feedback on that, and both options will lose to instant mash so in some situation it's hard to know if the guy you're fighting know what he's doing and what timing is he going for.Experiment in training mode with the reversal menu, set dummy to jab on block with a 3-8f delay.
>NOOOOOO YOU CANT JUST DO JAB INTO SCALED MP POINT BLANK WITHOUT COUNTERHIT!is it june 2023 again?
ken niggers know they're carried, right?
>499705960>499705960>499705960NEW when this one dies
>>499705827Of course they do, they are told every day, by everyone, As it has been, since 3S. They don't care. And I guess they don't have to.
I truly wish I was born with good execution. I completely forgot how to combo into level 3 with Guile over night and now I can't do it anymore at all. I could do it last night.
>>499706004>>499705960>>499705960you messed up
>>499681643It's about evo, not SF6, retard
>>499685562Faggot still won't talk about costumes
bump
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>>499700554>>499700968You guys are legit retarded and coping hard the fuck? "testament plays the honest footsies fireball game! just like Manon" are you retards actually this retarded?Imagine pretending Testament and Manon are even fucking close to the same character. Testament is closer to fucking Aki. Not to mention you clearly don't play Strive since Testament has an insane fucking mix right now.Also the second guy just discounting and counter evidence saying "those games are different to street fighter 5 and 6". despite me mentioning street fighter 4 Cody, and the fact that Marvels is actually his favourite fighter, which would be more indicative of his taste than anything.Fucking goofies.
If your character a forward moving confirmable safe on block heavy, you are not playing neutral, you're just riding in the back of a gorilla
