CM Feet Edition:https://www.dota2.com/patches/7.37d>INFORMATION & GUIDESEsports: https://dota2.com/esportsNews: https://dota2.com/newsPatches: https://dota2.com/patchesUpdates: https://dota2.com/news/updatesLore: https://liquipedia.net/dota2game/LoreLiquipedia: https://liquipedia.net/dota2For League players: https://dotabuff.com/learn/lolBug tracker: https://github.com/ValveSoftware/Dota2-Gameplay/issuesWiki: https://liquipedia.net/dota2/Main_PageX: https://x.com/dota2>STATISTICShttps://dota2protracker.com/https://dotabuff.comhttps://opendota.comhttps://stratz.comhttps://stats.spectral.gghttps://datdota.comPersonal game data: https://steamcommunity.com/my/gcpd/570>NEWS & STREAMShttps://tl.net/forum/dota-2-general/https://trackdota.comhttps://gosugamers.net/dota2old: >>>>498952268
What supports are you all using to Dominate and Rape your opposition this patch? I feel like Lich and Lion are very strong aggro laners right now>t. Ancient 1
>>499625216>coomer makes the thread 20 posts early to get his fetish in the op
>>499626672He didn't even link to the previous thread properly
I'm DONE with your GAMES, valve. You put me in herald after over 5 thousand hours of playtime, how fucking dare you. I'll let you know that I was almost 4k in the old rating, and now you put me in fucking herald? I'm playing my ass off every single game, my game is insanely advanced compared to the shitters I play with. Your calbration system is fucking retarded and I'm not going to just sit here and take you putting me with the worst shitters in this game. Over 2 thousand fucking matches and herald? You make me sick.
NATTEA FEET NATTEA FEET NATTEA FEET NATTEA FEET NATTEA FEET NATTEA FEET
>>499627312Enjoy your free win games in herald up to 4k, it's impossible to lose
does larl ever win mid?
templar assassin in bondage when?
>>499627312enjoy having to learn mid and tard wrangling for 300 hours to get back where you were bro
when will valve make turbo main gamemode?
>>499630508Never, luckily
>>499630508Turbo ranked would be nice.I cant play ranked because i find normal Dota 2 too slow.
Real previous: >>499252268
>>499631315it uses the hidden mmr and you can track your wr on 3rd party
What went wrong? This was all during TI, big events and summer. How do you manage to LOSE players during this period?
>>499632664no tourists logging in for hat pass
What heroes do you find most entertaining to watch in pro games and are always happy to see picked?
>>499633474whatever hero isn't meta atm
>0 Hoodwink bans (until now)lol what
How did a rank 43 immortal player get into my unranked 4K MMR lobby? I had to build Radiance first item on DP to win this lol
>>499634294it was falcons who banned it toolol
>>499634426falcons are the only ones doing well with it too
we should migratefuck this thread>>499634420>>499634420
>>499634627nah
>>499634461>it>>499634627How about no
>>499634852New Hoodwink pic?Full where?
>>499635009It's not new, it was for TI, might end up being relevant for this one too oh wait Liquid and GG are both in lower bracket already
>>499635565I didn't see it so it's new to me
CM f__t https://voca.ro/14vHTdzpnWn3
Buff Hoodwink
falcons banned hoodwink over morphlinglmao
Marci power
how the fuck are falcons allowed to spam tactical pauses?
>>499635565Why is Tundra in the middle when Tundra didn't even win
>>499625367Lifestealer>t. Herald 1
>>499634375You are just that good.
>>499637320a better question is why represent tundra with mk when they didnt play the hero
>>499637320Well there's a reason he's not happy, maybe it's just better for the composition to have Ench at the back
>>499637554Topson
>>499634375That's what unranked is supposed to be, 10 people of completely random mmr instead of "skill based matchmaking" with hidden mmr
I guess there really is a crowd cause they're only cheering for Spirit
tell me when they've fixed the confirm match bullshit
>>499638327they actually made it worse
>>499638327It only affects people who are bad
>>499635565I wonder if the pros ever look at Dota art or jerk off to Lina
>>499638583I think it's a requirement
In case someone's wondering, Deadlock is very consistently losing players and if this keeps up will be completely empty in two or three months, maybe sooner if cumulative effects start kicking in. Then Dota will only have to survive the initial launch spurt, but with a 3k average concurrent player count this will probably not go well.>a guy who really liked Deadlock but abandoned it after seeing the way Valve treated TI and Dota, and also finding out how tiny Valve actually is from the employee number leaks
I don't remember asking.
>>499641380It's clear by now that Valve is a tiny and destructively mercurial company. People both here and on reddit identified Deadlock as the cause of Valve's treatment of Dota. This means the collapse of its player count is a crucial thing for Dota and is therefore on topic for this thread.
>>499641809>People both here and on reddit identified Deadlock as the cause of Valve's treatment of Dota.correlation does not equal causation
>>499642021Read about how tiny Valve is.https://arstechnica.com/gaming/2024/07/valve-runs-its-massive-pc-gaming-ecosystem-with-only-about-350-employees/2/
Any game worth watching?
>>499642420and? they out source a lot of the work
What could I have done better this game?>8001903365
>>499638832I really wish she had a smoother voice.
The enemy team has a Morphling with a Manta Style. Two Morphlings are approaching you.What is the chance that one of these two approaching Morphlings is not an illusion?
>>499643184>support bristle>no phys core to lane with using snot rocket>no support items>going core anyway but no bloodstone>no pipe vs mostly magic damage team
>>499642925Then they would have no trouble maintaining the battle pass and TI's grandiose stature. They had all of the prerequisites for this - both TI viewership and prize pool kept increasing every year. Without being intentionally destroyed by Valve, TIs of 2022 and 2023 would have a similar prize pools to TI of 2021 and maybe slightly smaller viewerships (due to not being in Europe). TI of 2024 would once again set an absolute record in viewership and if Valve so desired would also have something like a 60-70 million prize pool. It would be talked about as the absolute pinnacle of esports everywhere and both Valve and Dota's prestige would rise.Instead, they said they don't have enough resources to both keep the battle pass and create events, and we now see how that went (no working servers and enormously delayed crownfall).
>>499643585pretty high
>>499643696They are working on VAC 2 after CS2
>>499643927This also has no relation to what that anon said about outsourcing. After all, if that was true was would have virtually unlimited manpower for EVERYTHING.
>>499643585One of the approaching Morphlings are confirmed to be an illusion. Does the odds of the other Morphling being an illusion increase or decrease?
>>499644345>if that was true they would have virtually unlimited manpower for EVERYTHING.
>>499643696Didn't they stop putting effort into the battle passes because the pros got uppity and started to think that they were hot shit?
please aurora wini need to see gg go out last
>>499645178I don't know, I'm not a Valve employee. However even if we assume it's true, Valve could have developed some sort of targeted retaliation mechanism (such as publicly revealing their demands and presenting them as "entitled millionaires" to the community), instead of destroying the event.Valve could literally write themselves into gaming oreeven sports history by keeping up the expansion of TI and its production value.
>>499645178That's part of the reason
>>499646376No, it's NOT. This is a literal "he said she said" type of thing with ZERO credence.
>>499646614It is though
>>499646804Then present the evidence.
I hope Naga carry returns next patch, I'm tired of this deluge shit. Terrorblade also.
>>499646872It's already been presented
>>499646884you WILL play carries as supports
>>499647197in retrospect it's kind of cringe that people were like "ana won TI.. on CARRY WISP!" as if it was some added challenge and not wisp being overbuffed and overtuned
>>499644351No. This situation is slightly different to the monty hall problem
>>499647694I'm not an OG fan, but I will note that Wisp was available for all teams to pick. One of the reasons it's mentioned so often is due to juts how unorthodox this is for a hard carry.
>>499643601alright thanks, I don't know how to itemise.>mostly magicI needed armour that game did you watch it or are you just looking at the end screen?
>>499648245oh and I don't know what positions "tanky" heroes can be played sup. I felt we needed something like bristle so that is why I played him.
>>499647694Because what matters is OG were the team to recognize just how powerful it was. It doesn't matter if a hero is overtuned if no one realises and actually figures out how to use it to its potential.
>>499648043>>499648512Yeah I fucking know, I'm talking about people who think it's paramount to rushing desolator on CM.
>>499648245Just looking at the end screen, Tiny was the only one that deals significant physical damage and he starts off dealing mostly magic damage and even by the end with a full phys build he did roughly 60/40 phys/magic, an early pipe on anyone on your team would've been huge and you had like 4 natural pipe carriers and no one bought it
>>499648419You needed disables, not a single stun on your team and barely anything else cc wiseSomething like shaker or tusk would've made more sense
>>499648978I'll do tusk then, what other CC durable supports do you recomend?
>>499648736but seriously watch how the game plays out, the end screen advice is useful but I genuinely don't know what to do with how my teammates play.
>>499649312EarthshakerDawnbreaker Pudge unironicallyNyx, not that tanky but has decent cc and invisibility = invincibility in heraldClockwerk
>>499649459Your teammates are irrelevant, the only thing that matters is how well you play. If you play your best and lose your best is not good enough and you have to improve.
LOSE QUINN LOSE
bkop confirmed 12k caster, calling for the aghs for so long
>supports get enough gold to do thisnudota is so shit
>>499650401This was always possible, people were just really bad at the game back thenReminder that people unironically thought RTZ was good because he could farm jungle fast, that's all it took to be good
>>499650658you're so fucking retarded
>>499650401i don't have a problem with supports getting the gleipnir and hurricane pike, cause force staff and atos are greatbut fuck man windwaker is still god tier on support. and if you want damage nullifier is amazingly useful too. a crit has literally nothing apart from damage
>>499650743You were bad back then and you're still bad, how sad
>>499650658That's clearly not true as now you get a shard for free, aghs for free and there's more creeps than ever before and kills give more gold>>499650401To be fair Muerta is a carry that is currently played as a support in pro unlike traditional supports Muerta has the ability to farm
>>499650658>>499650912
>>499651002Mad because bad
yeah there's literally 0 difference between dota then and now retards
>>499650401So what? Not all 4s do this; it's just a relatively new class.
>>499650401If cores cant close out the game in a fucking hour, its only fair supports get their shot.
>>499650943Muerta is also played as 1 occasionally, she isn't a pure 4.
>>499651160It's harder now
Rescue terry please
miss me?
>>499650401>>499650658supports definitely didnt get this much gold beforepre rtz economy>everyone is pretty poor but carries less so because they would kill jungle camps every now and then, and then go right back to brooling or taking objectivespost rtz economy>after rtz figured out you can just kinda keep killing jungle camps forever, carries become gigafed every game>mid becomes a carry role to take more advantage out of the broken jungle gold>games become based around controlling the jungles, throttling the enemy's gold gain and then eventually pushing hg with gold advantage once the difference is big enoughafter that it has been a series of jungle nerfs and kill/assist/comeback gold buffs to bring supports and carries closer to one another. 7.33 made things even more retarded since jungle is no longer a controllable objective and carries can just farm wherever
cuckcuckncuck lost this game
>gg loses tournament>kick random players instead of the problem (quinn)Why?
kick spermachyo for this
>>499649824I get that nigger but seriously watch the game .
I hope they pay ace-tofu-seleri well.
Dota with league's art and female designs + Dota's gameplay and male designs.
>>499651536You left out a huge change which is salve, clarity and mangoes are now limited so a support doesn't spam them on CD for the core as used to be the case, you rarely see a support buy a salve or clarity for a core now you actually now see cores buy it for themselves
Dota but all females are anthro
>>499651575The problem was their play style being centred around map control and winning the game early which became much harder after the map change in 7.33 which is why they started to lose after the update
>>4996524937.33 was in April 2023 man. They've won or did well in plenty of tournaments since then.https://liquipedia.net/dota2/Tier_1_Tournaments
Who cares about this game? Gaimin is going to destroy Aurora and we all know that.
who's even watching
>>499653003They have a new carry now. Not exactly the same team.
>>499652694>Barely beat BB>Liquid was shit>Lost to Talon>TSM was very shitThen if you look at their path to the finals they play American and Asian teams
>>499650401That meurta is still going to die in one hit, but that's how the hero works, with just a little bit of attack speed you can murder people. Like getting aghs on dark willow
>>499653223You can look at their Riyadh 2024 run. They defeated Falcons there and 5-0 Liquid.
>>499652265thats a fairly recent change and didn't really do that much, aside from bandaid fixing the bigger issue which is personal couriers and mangos. pros were about to discover the game just completely breaks if you just spam ferry mangos on a support hero with a good spammable nuke. it still does, but you run into the stock limit thing. but for the most part, supporting STILL comes down to "buy more regen than the enemy support and spam more spells".supports unironically used to be richer in the laning phase because they didn't have access to mangos or even the team courier that often, so they'd end up making more strategic purchases with their gold like boots and shit. but now all you really should buy are mangos and salves until you win the lane
>>499653558Yeah they start in the upper bracket and face one of the two easiest teams essentially getting a free pass, they beat Falcons who have only won one tier 1 tournament and beat Liquid who at that stage had always lost to GG
>>499653912Falcons won 4 tier 1 events by then and had a second place finish on top of that.
remember ringmaster?
is it really good to get gunslinger at level 3 as support?
>>499654073He's not in captain's mode yet, meaning pros can't pick him.
>>499654193it wins trade wars
we are so back
Three weeks and I get $1000 courier trust the plan
So close
If you pick void spirit don't be surprised that you lost in the end.
sorry to disappoint you guys
>>499654297meh, it will mostly hit creeps
>>499656896? is that the PSG Drawing Contest?
>>499657419Paris Saint-Germain is hosting a drawing competition?
SIEG HEIL TO ALL MY MASON NIGGAS!
>>499657419PSG still have a dota team?It's the giveaway thing from the Saudi LAN. It was supossed to be delivered like 2 months ago kek
So I noticed that upcoming Dream League is going have a new Xtreme squad after all (with new supports). This means it's going to have pretty much everyone aside from the rumored Ramzes squad and Collapse from team Spirit. In a way it will be the first true event of the season, seeing it's going to have almost all hands on deck unlike Wallachia and Dacha.
>ench banned all dayWhy do they fear the deer
>void spirit first pickWHY, why do they keep doing this? The hero is trash!
>>499660865yeah i don't get it. maybe their mid just loves the hero.
>>499660737She says THOUGH too much
he's called void spirit because he does nothing lel
>>499661701Why are troons and browns so triggered by this word?
>>499662789though is definitely a tranny wordthis is the type of word you would see alot from redditors (tranny positives) and terminally online discorders (basically tranny)
it's not though
>>499663078you sound mentally ill, like a tranny.
>>499663732nta but i don't think he is though
report this noob injoker
>quinn sucking shit againI swear if his hero isn't innately tanky he can't play it
>>499664507He's the new RTZ
>shitson>shitshitnshit>shiteri>gays>ToShit
>>499664686he's not, Arteezy was good at some point, Quinn has always been a shitter
>>499625216I'm sick of League because I can't do shit when my mates are feeding and inting, is it the same in Dota? I might just stop playing assfaggots
>>499665046>Arteezy was good at some point
>>499665123You can go full 1v9 ghoul mode and call your team niggers with no repercussion
they should've kicked quinn instead
>>499665161yes
>>499665123they'll curse your entire bloodline and claim that the game already ended 20 mins ago but will still play the game
what does it say?
You know what Valve or Blizzard should do? just make a standalone Dota 6.89 but with like updated graphicslike a remake or reboot or whatevergo back to the beginning
>>499665123Dota has heroes which allow you to have an especially noticeable impact on the game, but they require strong commitment due to complexity.Typical examples are Arc Warden and Meepo mids. They both allow you to control several units at the same time, but in very different ways: one creates a perfect clone and the other several imperfect clones.
>>499643696>TIs of 2022 and 2023 would have a similar prize pools to TI of 2021 and maybe slightly smaller viewerships (due to not being in Europe).this is a retarded taketi10 had a huge prizepool cause of a double year of funding>Instead, they said they don't have enough resources to both keep the battle pass and create eventsthat isnt what they said at all "When we recognized this, we made a deliberate choice earlier this year to run an experiment: to take some of the resources that would normally produce Battle Pass content and instead put them towards more speculative updates, including features and content that couldn't fit into a Battle Pass. While work is still in progress on future updates, the first of these has shipped: New Frontiers and patch 7.33 couldn't have shipped as they did if we were focusing all our efforts on producing Battle Pass content.">and we now see how that went (no working servers and enormously delayed crownfall).servers work for me and crownfall isnt delayed its currently active
>>499665978go play dota classic with the other retards who want it on private server then
>>499665123Yes its the same in Dota.>>499665379You could call your team niggers because most of the playerbase doesnt speak english so they wouldnt even know what nigger meant or that you were even speaking to them.For this reason you should probably learn russian before starting Dota 2 because you will be mass false reported by other players for not speaking russian and will be penalized because Dota 2 punishments are based on the amount of reports not on if it was true or not so be careful not to upset your teammates or enemies or else your honor level will go down and you will get a temporary ban and locked out of chatting until you get your honor level back up.
>>499665870>ÐÑ‚oÑ‚ Peшaфл>ПpocÑ‚o Имбahope that helps anon :)
>>499666704okay
>>499666663Russians are cucked and speak english, they just don't want to. They are also retarded and think everyone that speaks English is american for some reason.
>>499665978Heroes of Newerth tried that and it flopped.
>>499666779That's literally what it says. It's just dyrachoke being spiteful and petty.
>>499666185Ti of 2022 only had a lower prize pool due to Valve starting the process of killing TI by splitting the battle pass into two parts. It was also visible in venue selection (it was known as "mall TI" in the Dota community), terrible production issues and no true sight. This is all too much to be a coincidence.Valve knew that this TI was universally considered as a failed one, and it's 95% guaranteed that they introduced the swag bag to make the killing of TI more palatable to the community.>servers work for meWatch streamers if you don't believe people on reddit and here. >crownfall isnt delayedIt was supposed to conclude in August. Maybe someone saved the pic, I know it exists.
>>499665978Dota's team doesn't even have the manpower to keep Crownfall on schedule and everything Blizzard does is a cringefest trainwreck.
>>499667078>This is all too much to be a coincidence.its a coincidence>Watch streamers if you don't believe people on reddit and here. i see arteezy, dendi and gorgc in gameyou should be providing the evidence to back up your retarded claims>It was supposed to conclude in August. Maybe someone saved the pic, I know it exists.so the event was extended, not delayedyou do understand the difference, right?
>>499667093>Dota's team doesn't even have the manpower to keep Crownfall on schedulesource?
what is quinn and watson thinking now?
>>499667785>i see arteezy, dendi and gorgc in gameyou should be providing the evidence to back up your retarded claimsYou don't sound like a Dota player at all, considering you're not even aware of the issue here. The point isn't being unable to find a game, the point is the search getting stuck on "confirming match" and artificially extending the queue time 3-10x.>so the event was extended, not delayedNo, it was DELAYED. Valve described its motivation on killing the battle pass as focusing on M O R E updates and game events. Old acts of crownfall being extended again and and again and again and again means NEW events DON'T HAPPEN.
>>499667093>Dota's team doesn't even have the manpower to keep Crownfall on scheduleYou keep saying this but you still havent posted any proof of your conspiracy theory
>>499668329>The point isn't being unable to find a game, the point is the search getting stuck on "confirming match" and artificially extending the queue time 3-10x.yeah, im aware what the issue isstill see these guys in game when you suggested it wasnt possible>No, it was DELAYEDyeah you dont understand the difference>Valve described its motivation on killing the battle pass as focusing on M O R E updates and game events.which we have received, there are more content patches and balance patches than before the development change>Old acts of crownfall being extended again and and again and again and again means NEW events DON'T HAPPEN.its been 6 months with crownfall, not 6 years
This will be your midlaner for today.
the idea that dota2 will have a new and exciting event with fresh hats every three is asking too much
>>499668820>yeah you dont understand the differenceSee pic. I didn't have the one I was thinking of, but I found a random one online. >Aug 8As for the rest - there's absolutely no explanation for the intentional killing of TI. It's possible to fund it both with and without a battle pass format, for example by making small contributions from all skin sales throughout the season. Destroying the event is an absolutely deliberate move by Valve.
>>499670065>See pic>Doesnt attach any pic to his post
>>499668291>watsonCoefficient was so good. Watson old friend helped him to get the right bet, Just like in b8 times
>>499670065yes the original deadline was aug 8, then they extended the event to a yet underdetermined time> It's possible to fund it both with and without a battle pass format, for example by making small contributions from all skin sales throughout the seasonthey had a compendium available to fund ti2024 prizepool, if you felt compelled to contribute
>>499670209>>499670065
>>499670339A battle pass is like purchasing a treasure chest. 2023 and 2024 compendiums are like purchasing a plastic bag with cigarette butts, used gum and candy wrappers. If someone reacts to this in a neutral way, he would be among the people with the most positive reception, since most thought it was outrageous or downright insulting.
>>499670815the battlepass format was extremely poor for the consumerhiding content behind a paywall, forcing you to spend money on things you didnt wantprestige fomo bullshit be damned
>>499671169Irrelevant. If Valve doesn't like the battle pass they could fund TI in exactly the same way they operate now, but they decided to kill it off and this almost surely started in 2022. Again:>They had all of the prerequisites for this - both TI viewership and prize pool kept increasing every year. Without being intentionally destroyed by Valve, TIs of 2022 and 2023 would have a similar prize pools to TI of 2021 and maybe slightly smaller viewerships (due to not being in Europe). TI of 2024 would once again set an absolute record in viewership and if Valve so desired would also have something like a 60-70 million prize pool. It would be talked about as the absolute pinnacle of esports everywhere and both Valve and Dota's prestige would rise.
>>499671626you might not care, but it does matter since hats are what made the battle pass desirableexpecting whales to over contribute to the prizepool year after year to see number get big isnt a great way to sustain the gamewhy should i be expected to spend $500+ dollars on hats for ti every year
what do we think of the new ESL announcement? kino or cinema?
>>499672139I'm not talking about the battle pass anymore. Valve can set the prize pool at any level it wants by tweaking percentages of skin sales throughout the season.The future I described isn't just possible, it's EASILY possible, but Valve simply refuses to act to make it happen. Valve can write its name into gaming and even overall sports history through ever growing TI prize pools and ever expanding production value (ceremonies, more main stage games, having a special extra large stadium for finals, having subsidized tickets to help more people attend, true sight, etc) but they DON'T ACT.
>>499672831what does that do for dota though? a massive ti bigger than any event seen beforeSeptember 2021 391,082.1September 2024 426,811.7
>slark>necrophosAny other heroes that aren't allowed to be good?
>>499672806holy fuck lmao
Uhhh bros? Why did my behavior score go down? Am I that bad at the game?
>>499673181terrorblyatdazzle
>>499673110First of all, look at the bump Dota had at the beginning of crownfall before Valve started its delays. Second, an event like a video game having its 60 million prize pool finals on a 50k large stadium would make the news everywhere. Third, this is large enough for Valve to increase its fame and clout even more than it already has.But what Valve achieved instead is Dota players starting to wish death on all of Valve's new games and killing Dota's most important event.
>>499673181phantom lancerdark seerbrewmasterancient apparition
>>499673890>Second, an event like a video game having its 60 million prize pool finals on a 50k large stadium would make the news everywhere.a 40 million prize pool was nearly as big and it didnt make that big of wave, this is even with espn being involved with dota in the pastti10 was a big spectacle and the player base leading up to the event didnt give a shit about dota390k average users? what a joke
>>499674223TI of 2021 didn't even have a crowd.>390k average users?>beginning of crownfall before Valve started its delaysYou once again don't sound like a Dota player, but an outsider trying to defend Valve. I'm talking about 513k in May. For reference, Dota only had around 8 months when the average was higher than 600k for its entire history.
>>499672806>cabal self wankYeah I love seeing the same people every single event getting paid to goof around without providing anything of actual value.fuck off.
>>499675003>TI of 2021 didn't even have a crowd.why the fuck does the crowd matter, its a video gamei want a better experience at homeif the prizepool matters so much to dota2 then why didnt the player base grow larger than it ever had before in 2021?
>>499675391>why the fuck does the crowd matter, its a video game>i want a better experience at homeNo fucking way, someone in d2g with an actual brain?unheard of.
>prizepoolLiterally who the fuck cares except pros? Your parasocialism is pathetic.
Saber____>heavy>lightPick one.
>>499675391The prize pool is merely one of the components of the experience and it wasn't the only thing Valve destroyed.In case you didn't know this, Valve attracted Dota 1 players to Dota 2 specifically by advertising it through TI 2011. Perhaps association with Valve will turn out to be fatal for Dota after all, seeing as how they treat the game during the last months (which is very likely connected to Deadlock).
>>499675937>The prize pool is merely one of the components of the experienceWhat experience?
>>499676180?The experience of a Dota enjoyer enjoying Dota's most vibrant season.
>>499675937>The prize pool is merely one of the components of the experience and it wasn't the only thing Valve destroyed.the only thing of real worth that has been lost is truesight which shouldnt have been an annual thing in the first placewe are still getting hats, only now the content delivery is better for the consumerti was great for getting dota2 to market and attracting a fanbaseafter 14 of them though, the market penetration isnt having the same effect and we can see that even when the prizepool and hype is at its greatest the player base isnt growing in stride
if you let enigma and naga through the draft you deserve to be dunked on by a nobody team
>>499676594Did you try not grouping up on top of a tower?
>>499676528How does a higher prizepool affect me in the slightest?
>>499676535>we can see that even when the prizepool and hype is at its greatest the player base isnt growing in stride>playerbase isn't growing, but viewership is exploding >this is a reason to kill the event which the community funded in the first place and increase the likelihood of the playerbase starting to decrease
>>499677304ti isnt dead
>>499672806>jenkinsfucking shit>>499677470not yet...
>>499676781TI has been killed by Valve. It staying intact was hilariously easy and it growing into a huge phenomenonon wasn't that difficult either for an actual large company (which Valve isn't). I'm not going to be sidetracked by hyper focusing on the prize pool and frankly have stuff to do, so I'm leaving for now.
>>499677562>doomshitting
>>499677649>dodges the questionSo you have nothing and you're just making shit up. Fuck off, retard.
Where are the drawfags
>>499677854In the deadlock general
>>499677649>TI has been killed by Valve.no it has notbut you must force this narrative since your argument is weak
Was 33 to saberlight really that much of a downgrade?
Maybe Ench should have stayed banned...
>>49967785441 percented
That clone item is a must have, you basically get 100% damage absorption if they hit the wrong clone AND you get triple the attack power.
>>499627460>sleevlessplease tell me there is nattea armpits too
>>499678104Yes. 33 was the captain, he's really good drafter and is simply the current best offlaner.
>>499678884that's not how manta style works or why its bought but it is a good item
>>499679105>forgetting ammar the fucker exists
who is yakult?
>>499679330Ammar is obviously one of the best but in the end of the day, ammar is nerfed because of the heros he plays. Liquid (with 33) gave him his signatures, because.. after all, it's just a timber, etc. 33 is better, he also won two TIs and Ammar didn't
>>499679391ig
green knows that WD is the real carrybecause it's TRUE
>win ti>drop 0:3 in the next event playoffsSurely they won't become evil geniuses. Surely.
>>499679943ti hangover is nothing newog wins ti8 then isnt able to qualify for the next major
>last word still a passiveuhhhhhh...
>>499682081Unwavering Condition still exists, they don't care
tormentor and aghanims blessing from roshan were a mistakeit just makes the game snow ballier. aghanims blessing is especially bad since it encourages dragging out the game.
>>499683709highground defense is too powerful these items help punish the endless turtle in base
Anyone want to play Dota 2 US west ranked? I am drunk atm.
>>499684052rape meat
>>499684052I guess her mirror is a bit cleaner this time but she's really pushing it
>old intelligence gain: 2.2>old strength gain: 1.5>old agility gain: 1.5lmao the nudota power creep is so insanethey also lowered his bat to 1.6 and he also starts with +15 attack speed for some reason
>>499686526he made up for all that with his ult being so cheap it was disgustingly broken
>>499686917storm is better than ever before
rtz has like 14k mmr. he's not washed. why isn't he in a pro team?
been playing Warcraft 3 Dota for the first timeit's interesting seeing how different it is than Dota 2Dota 2 has definitely improved on a lot of different thingsalso, i can see that Dota 2 has become very bloated and i think the simplicity of Dota 1 is better, like no talents, no facets, no innates, no shards. that's just my personal opinion though
>Wake up>Deadlock added not one but SIX heroesGuess who is the favorite child now.
>>499678104>>49967910533 looks like a chud despite being Jewish, he's even got the same rectangular glasses.
>>499688029>despite being jewishlmao
why is this b-tier chinese team winning the ti winenrs?
>>499688543saberlight is no 33
>be clockwerk>let my midlane earth spirit pick up the last hit on a 5% hp support muerta>he misses every single spell and the muerta gets awayfuck herald this bracket is ass
>>499686526he also has a disgustingly high base armor for a range hero
>>499677930You just posted an event that lost 50% of its viewership.
>>499689426he always had that. but yes, it's pretty disgusting.
>>499689162pissa is the one losing the game
>>499689456compared to what?
>>49968993295% of Dota players know the answer to this question. I specifically didn't mention it, since it looks like there are non Dota players defending Valve here and your question is evidence of that being the case.
Ench keeps dying
>>499690184>if you dont know it was ti10 i was referring to then you arent a dota playerwhat a terrible argumentstop attacking my character
>>499690410Saying someone is unlikely to be a Dota players (or at least not one with over a year of experience) isn't a personal attack. The only reason I didn't specify which TI I was talking about (and why) was because some anon above made a very serious error when defending Valve>>499675003
>>499690768>Saying someone is unlikely to be a Dota players (or at least not one with over a year of experience) isn't a personal attackyou are ignoring my argument by discrediting my experience which is a personal attackti10 didnt grow the game
>>499691110>ti10 didnt grow the gameGrowing the game isn't the main point of TI, just like increasing your body's size isn't the only point of eating.>>499677304
>>499691353what is the point of ti then? if the game doesnt matteryou acknowledge that valve only created ti to market the game
Ench makes her couriers super strong?
>>499691517The point of people going on walks isn't purely recreational, work related or a form of exercise. It can be all of the above, sometimes even at the same time.TI too was a carnival, a source of Dota's prestige and an ad at the same time. We don't know what will happen now that it's been destroyed, but it's quite likely that the viewership will keep decreasing as more and more people realize what Valve has done.I myself only realized that at the very end of TI 2024 and almost immediately dropped everything Deadlock related. I literally expected act 4 to release between TI"s group stage and playoffs and fund it for at least a couple of days. And I also remind you what crownfall was SUPPOSED to look like>>499670349Anyway, this is enough TI discussion for this thread. I'll stop mentioning it now.
>>499692416>valve lied to me about the crownfall dates and i am eternally butthurt about itget over yourself
>>499692520I wouldn't care much about it, if its first three (or two, or even one) released acts funded TI so it would have TI level production value and stakes.
Liquid are doing it...I think
>>499692895if people wanted to fund ti to raise then stakes then they needed to contribute to the compendiumwe know that viewership does not scale with prizepoolcomplaining about production value doesnt mean much without detail, the gameplay was good
>>499693471>contribute to the compendium>buy a plastic bag full of cigarette butts, used gum and candy wrappers instead of the usual huge treasure chest
both of these teams are so garbage
>>499693848yeah i dont really give a fuck about pros and the prizepool eitherim happy we got the huge treasure chest in a more consumer friendly format, why you think the predatory model is better i really do not understand
micke...
>>499625216need arcana traxes feet
>>499694032I don't care if the battle pass is reworked and keeps getting reworked every year if Valve wants to, as long as long as TI is TI.
>>499694376ti was ti, the only thing that changed was the prizepool
uhhh liquid?
Jesus Christ this game is insane
holy shit
KINO
jej shitquid
sh1tcke
HOLY KINO HOLY KINO HOLY KINO HOLY KINO HOLY KINO HOLY KINO HOLY KINO HOLY KINO HOLY KINO HOLY KINO HOLY KINO HOLY KINO HOLY KINO HOLY KINO HOLY KINO HOLY KINO HOLY KINO HOLY KINO
that has to be one of the best pro dota games i've ever seen LMFAO
sovful chinese doto
that defense was insane
Very fun game to listen and tab in to occasionally.
>>499695205I dont understand how the last few heroes had enough damage to defend. I thought enchantress would never die due to heals and passive
>>499694484I have already listed everything, but read the comments here if you think my point of view isn't the default one by a huge margin.https://youtube.com/watch?v=j_-1_s4hMrE&pp=ygUYdGkgMjAyNCBvcGVuaW5nIGNlcmVtb255
>>499695817>I have already listed everythingwhich made for a poor argument, ti hasnt died and the player base isnt nose diving since valve ended the battle pass>youtube commentsi too can cherrypick the ones that agree with my narrative"no matter what teams are playing, No matter what Prize poll TI has, no matter how long time ago my passion for the game died, the " Welcome to The International" line will always give me lots of goosebumps."
>>499695534they grinded down medusa over time and one big downside is that they can't really use life steal. other carries would've just satanic'd up.
>>499696117dusa into lion feels really bad
>>499696094>likes: 24
>>499696324is this reddit? do we really care about updoots now?
it really was down to the basically the last second.luna was stunned here and would've died before another auto attack.it was earth spirit that finished off the throne but if the throne just had a little more hp he wouldn't have been able to do it.
>>499696473Check out the viewership then>>499689456
>>499696620what about it? for an event with such a massive prizepool one would expect viewership to be much higherwe know the player base didnt grow much crownfall got the player base over 500k again, ti10 failed to do so
>>499696904>with such a massive prizepool one would expect viewership to be much higherDota isn't some sort of work mule meant to be constantly compared to other work mules. The thing in the pic is still one of the largest ever events in esports. I doubt anything other than LoL's worlds had higher European/NA viewership.
>>499697628>Dota isn't some sort of work mule meant to be constantly compared to other work mules.yet you keep trying to whip that mule to be bigger and stronger every year which doesnt make sense either>The thing in the pic is still one of the largest ever events in esports.thats great, why must the number go up, how does that grow the game?
Where the fuck is act 4 holy fuck this game is actually fucking dead. They must have like 3 retards working on it while everyone else is on deadlock and the new single player game
>>499652161Dota with Last Origin's female designs and no male characters.
>>499654690>>499656915>>499657286Do I have to wait to be fully calibrated to see this?
What Act is the best one to earn tokens/shards on once you've completed them all?
>>499698639one since it can generate candy
>>499698720the donation thing? that's also on act 3
>>499673432How did you get it to be such a nice round number?
>>499698321Deadlock's playerbase is very consistently going down. If this keeps up it will have 1k concurrent within a couple of months.
feels like that was the most kino ending to a pro dota game everof course, some games are technically more hype because itt's a ti finals game or something.this one was pretty good toohttps://www.youtube.com/shorts/cOXVmyW-97g
>>499698852I've just been playing dota in turbo. Trying out the Heroes. It feels like every hero has to build the shard thing that gives them extra abilities. The funnest hero so far was dawnbreaker, she cute.
>>499687403DotA Allstars was like chess. You could learn literally everything, and all the mechanics had an underlying sense to them (eg, orb effects, slows based on same WC3 skill not stacking, etc), and it created very deep gameplay. Dota 2 is much broader but in reality it's such a nightmare to balance and everything is so arbitrary and randomly changed that there's no sense of cohesion to it.
>>499699119Yeah it's annoying how everyone has Shard every game these days, but to be fair you don't always have to build it, you can get it from Tormentors.
>>499699321>gameplay mechanics determined by engine limitations are good>gameplay mechanics determined by the developer are badgameplay is as deep as ever
>>499699514They aren't consistent now though, they are arbitrary. IceFrog will just randomly trash one hero and hugely buff another for no reason, and the items are just as arbitrary.
sex with lina
>>499699496There's just no reason not to build it. I was hesitant at first because I thought it would take up an item slot. But it's literally just a buff for a relatively cheap price.
>>499699625do you have some examples? the letter patches of 7.37 have been quite targetted at nerfing the strong heroes/itemsgliepner and arcane boots needed to be gutted, they likely havent gone far enough
>>499699321i fucking hated the effects not stacking because you had to memorize that and explaining it to a newbie was also a nightmare. I was a kid ofc so that's maybe the reason.Just glad they're gone.
heres your pos 5 bro
>>499699849No it's just that I'm older now and I don't like change.
>>499700289Fine, if you don't want that here's your new pos 5 bro
>>499699683It depends on the hero. I don't build it as Disruptor, for example, I only ever get it through Tormentor.
>>499699990It was easy because there was big red text on every orb effect item and ability. It was also part of balance. Viper, for example, was very strong in the early days of DotA and giving him access to shit like Skadi and Desolator would have been very powerful.
>>499701403is okay bro i won!!! had 4 core players but no one took carry
>>499650401>implying pos 4's being backup midlaners is new
>>499665123its nowhere near as bad as in league, a fed enemy is not an instant gg like in lol, but 1v9 ing in dota is hard and requires good macro play and game knowledge to outplay the enemy team and punish mistakes, like 0 chance a league player can step into dota and do that without learning everything from scratch
die
bros... don't look at the deadlock patch notes
>liquid moving into base full with fully kitted medusa ench muerta while enemy luna dead no bb >close stream>???>liquid loseWhat
>>499709678Liquid also nearly managed to hold Yakult off when they defended their own base. It was a very dynamic endgame.
>>499708996>made kali a girl because of ivyfags (and made her green and changed her name to viper because lol remember the dead game?)>fixed haze's voice because of hazefagsmeanwhile we've been asking for loli pugna for years and years
>>499711596i don't know what kali is
>>499712454A linux distro made for "hacking"
>>499712454one of the six new heroes they added to the new hero testing mode in deadlock but had been in the files in a rough state for months
Why is the carry role so popular? Whenever I watch pro games positions 2,3 and even 4 seem more impactful and much more active. There's also more opportunity for skill expression in those roles imo.
>>499699321Ironically Edgar Allen poe made the same criticism against chess you make against Dota 2. In the book Murder in the Rue Morgue he argues that checkers is a better game than chess because it's actually possible to learn every single line, so it becomes a measure of skill rather than a knowledge check like chess.
>>499711596bro tell me you're not sperging about this thing
>>499713641i'm not, but the character was male in neon prime and is female in deadlock and this was probably done because ivy got so popular that valve thinks deadlock's audience is full of ugly monster girl loving freaks
>>499708996>bald negress>slark cosplayer>muerta but also batrider>even more unfinished ringmaster>viper again>maybe a semi-unique herolmao
>>499712921carryautists think that they're the main character instead of being the team's junglejanny that only exists to right click on objectives
feet
act 4???????????
>>499712921Pos 1 used to matter more but now it matters less. It still matters, but in an unfun way that has no meaning for the first 40 mins.
>>499713505Chess only has 6 different pieces, all of which only have one move with the exception of en passant and castling. Dota has 129 heroes, all of which have 4 abilities, 10 talents, multiple facets, an innate, varying stats and stat growth, aghanim's scepter and shard abilities, and and almost infinite list of possibilities when it comes to items.
>>499714058>junglejannyGoing to use this
>>499713505That makes no sense since knowing every board state and possible move is also another knowledge check.
>>499714491Soon (2025)
>>499714981The point is it's possible to know it all, so there's the implicit assumption two "pro" plays already know everything when they play a game. At the point it's no longer a knowledge check. Thats the argument being made.In contrast in chess, unless you are playing a common line known to both players, theres a good chance one player takes an obscure line they've studied and win off their opponent's lack of knowledge.
>>499715890beta argument
*shoots you in the head*tough luck kid, with a bit more knowledge youd have been able to calculate the dodge
>>499716143Poe is basically saying if you don't know every line in checkers, you're a retard, while you can't know every line in chess so it's just a game of who does more autistic studying. He's calling you a betafag for relying on obscure lines to get wins.
>>499716810t. probably got huskar'd mid
>>499715890>it doesn't count for checkers because pros on both sides know all the movesThat's not how it works. You are describing two people with perfect knowledge playing a mathematically solved game as "not a knowledge check" and then in the same breath complain that in chess you can be outskilled because somebody had a pocket strat that the other guy didn't.They're both knowledge checks. The nature and context might differ but they're still just knowledge checks. Poe's just being a sour grapes fag who seethes because he can't win at chess. Like a r*ddit support main that can't win mid lane saying dumb shit like "2k MMR support is better than 5k MMR mid because I'm not an autistic right-click mainer" or some shit like that. It's projection.
>>499715890>>499717376The logical corollary of this argument is that the best game is coin flipping, because there are only two possible outcomes from a game comprised entirely of a single move and for which no amount of knowledge can be of benefit.
>>499717479>The logical corollary of this argument is that the best game is coin flippingNo it isn't, since coin flipping is entirely chance. The actual logical corollary to his argument is that the best game is tic tac toe.
>>499713641what a slut
>>499717479It's the other way around. Coin flipping (or any chance based game) lets you cope when you lose by saying shit like "I wasn't outskilled, I just had bad luck". When you get outskilled because of a strat you didn't know about, you seethe and rage and hate yourself and mayeb the game. Because you're objectively inferior. Poe, as described, is channeling DSP going "woooooooow how was I supposed to know that?" and then getting mad when told to git gud or study more chess books. So according to his argument, the best games are mathematically solved games where you can figure out, or memorise, the optimal sequence of moves so you win no matter what. Like checkers, or I dunno, tic-tac-toe, othello, etc. where you can pretend memorising all possible board states is skill (and not a knowledge check) as long as it's not as complex as chess.
>>499717376>That's not how it works. You are describing two people with perfect knowledge playing a mathematically solved game as "not a knowledge check" and then in the same breath complain that in chess you can be outskilled because somebody had a pocket strat that the other guy didn't.The entire point of the argument is that in checkers its actually possible to have perfect knowledge, while chess is too "big". It is "how it works". Simply put, he's saying games based on two players having perfect knowledge are better than those where it isn't possible. I don't personally agree with his argument but whatever, that's his argument.However you're just arguing semantics about the definition of "knowledge check". Thats not an actual counter argument against Poe's sentiment.
>>499711596>meanwhile we've been asking for loli pugna for years and yearsUnironically kill yourself
So it's necro just turbo dead?
>>499718659The semantics matter because he is being a contradictory and inconsistent fag. Which he is. And the line he draws for acceptable complexity is also subjective and arbitrary.
>>499631849Where do you track hidden MMR
>>499719607He said track winrate, not hidden MMR. At best you can see the lobby's average hidden MMR, but not your own.
>>499713641>Fisherman but fishXd lololol
>>499719105I wonder why Invoker got the midget 5head shota persona and not Pugna. Alive Pugna could've also been just as valid for the concept. Nobody asked for the Invoker one so gotta wonder why Valve randomly decided to make and release it.
hmm it seems the enemy team has used every ability in their arsenal on our supportperhaps we should run away and allow their cooldowns to come back up before we fight properly
>>499719424The line he's drawing is very clear. He says that any game that measures who is better based on knowing more about the game and calculating the best line is inferior to games where both players know the game completely and instead have to rely on analyzing their opponents. When a game is played where everyone knows the game 100% (checkers, professional poker, etc), the game play stops being knowledge checks and instead about analyzing your opponent, arguing semantics about what a "knowledge check" is, is fundamentally misunderstanding his argument.> To be less abstract —Let us suppose a game of draughts where the pieces are reduced to four kings, and where, of course, no oversight is to be expected. It is obvious that here the victory can be decided (the players being at all equal) only by some recherche movement, the result of some strong exertion of the intellect. Deprived of ordinary resources, the analyst throws himself into the spirit of his opponent, identifies himself therewith, and not unfrequently sees thus, at a glance, the sole methods (sometimes indeed absurdly simple ones) by which he may seduce into error or hurry into miscalculation.>Whist has long been noted for its influence upon what is termed the calculating power; and men of the highest order of intellect have been known to take an apparently unaccountable delight in it, while eschewing chess as frivolous.You're just not a man of the highest order of intellect.
>>499720012pugna is a girlalso invoker is more popular and turning a grown man into a shota is more of a drastic model change than turning an already small model into another small model
so uhh when is act 4
>>499719105Valve knows about the loli pugna meme and has teased it
>>499722129This. When will you goobers realize that Valve literally lurks this gen and r/dota2 ???
>>499722242So you're telling if I endless bitch about my petpeeves, valve will see it?
>>499722242i know this post is ironic but some /d2g/ ideas have been implemented like the AoE Doom
drawfags
>>499722612I'd rather have psg ideas than reddit ideas
classic PSG clueless fuck
>>499722963Hello.
>>499713846kali is still in the files, unfinished heroes use other heroes' animation sets and models, viper is going to be a snake
>>499722129>and has teased itall lies
>End of August >Go on road trip >Sad that I will miss the rest of Crownfall, but going outside irl is pretty cool too >Get back home >Act 4 hasn't even started yet >Also no Diretide what the fuck
When pro teams pick their heroes in a tournament, are players locked into heroes (like when you pick a hero in a pub) or is each team picking 5 heroes and then theoretically have the option to decide who plays which hero after all heroes have been picked?
>>499727940The latter. If you watch a pro game, you can see them slowly assign themselves to heroes after picking is finished.
>>499727940The latter. Heroes are picked and then players are assigned to heroes after the draft is complete.
>7.38>Silencer's Glaives of Wisdom reworked>now after 4 attacks, the target is silenced, slowed, and Nortrom does a backflip, then jumps forward over the target, somersaulting in midair and launches 8 glaives in an AOE around him, if the glaives don't hit targets, they explode dealing 30% of his Intelligence in an AOE and slows for .5 seconds
>>499728174>>499728197Thanks. I thought that was the case.
>>499709678that magnetize did so much work holy shit, i didn't think it was possible for an earth spirit, lion, clock and dawn to hold that off
>>499726862They teased it that time they released patch notes in emojis
Why there's no good helm for luna?
>>499733423?
>>499721056It was supposed to end in Oct 16th
wtf is wrong with valve
>>499672806>hey chat gpt make me a friends video with all the cabal but make them all look more like actual adults>they all look noticeably different except for sheeverwhat did the ai mean by this?
>my carry doesn't have bkb>enemy carry has bkb>loseI wish I could buy bkb for my core.
>>499739345Pick omniknight
>>499739345I bought the BKB lines from the compendium just for this purpose. Both of them. So I can make fun of them every time they die without BKB.
Why is troll warlord so janky? I watched my 6 slotted troll getting slaughtered just by pa pressing blur one time during his ulti.
>>499740097Your troll was retarded because he should've won that match-up.
Fem orc hero when?
>>499739170>Waaah it's not over designed edgy garbage!
>>499673181Necro is god tier right now?
>bristle offlane goes goo facet>rushes aghs>builds blademail because he's being focused too hard>we lose in 20 minutes because the damage only offlaner now doesnt even do damage what mental retardation is required to do this
>enchantress makes ur hits slow down and can deal half of your health bar from 20 miles away>muerta cant diethat's not only fun, balanced, and fair, it also adds this really interesting level of depth to the game that can be capitalized on by the top 0.00001% of players. it adds so much to the game and i really commend the devs for taking such a risk in their game design. bravo!
>>499742181>win lane>rely on ream to win gamenah
>>499742181He's dogshit
good night dotards!
>>499743058>next game queue offlane so we have someone who actually wants to play their role>get a zeus support that leeches and lets the enemy pullyea im back to uninstalling, fuck this game
>queue rank game>game starts peacefully>suddenly chud chimps out and spergs all his pol retardation>starts calling everyone slavnigger and perunigger>check his ping>american>high iq russians treat him like a kid and mute him>we end up winningi wonder when chuds will realize that "nigger" holds 0 shock and offense value to anyone born and raised outside of any angloid countryi know you are here
>>499745487It's literally 5pm
>>499746184Cores complaining about supports "leeching" is a huge red flag tbqhwyf
>>499692416>I myself only realized that at the very end of TI 2024 and almost immediately dropped everything Deadlock related. I literally expected act 4 to release between TI"s group stage and playoffs and fund it for at least a couple of days. And I also remind you what crownfall was SUPPOSED to look likeSo I consulted the chart and it turned out Deadlock's collapse greatly accelerated precisely at the time I dropped it. That trajectory change perfectly aligns with the end of TI 2024.Seems like a lot of people realized Valve is killing TI and started to wish death on all new Valve games.https://steamdb.info/app/1422450/charts/#max
>>499739345its just not a good bkb game, sorry support cuck
>first pick bb
where's sheepo?
>>499750558bros....
morph lmao
>>499750095spirit picks just seem retarded overallthey first picked marci before when no one even bans it
>started watching dota again>every team has russians now
>>499752119why is this a problem?
>>499752167Never said it was.
>>499752219then why call attention to it?though its not even close to being true
>>499752265Why do you sound so defensive?
larl is so garboloses mid every game
>>499752307misinformation must die
>>499752119Nah, only half. Dream League will have almost all hands on deck; check it out instead since this event doesn't have everyone.>Liquid>Xtreme>Nigma>Azure>Talon>Nouns>Heroic>WaskaI assume you count Watson as "Russian", so I didn't include GG.
>>499677854drawing my wifehttps://files.catbox.moe/94xtz9.png
>push hg>get team wipedreally tired of this meme
>>499752119only region that still plays this game enough to have some players come up and/or give a shit.the western scene has been the same rehashed 100 or so players for decades now. Fuck sake, absolute bottom of the barrel hontrash like insania, sneyking and boxi won a TI. That's how fucking dead this game is competitively. Just like Starcraft, nobody cares anymore.
>>499753323>Fuck sake, absolute bottom of the barrel hontrash like insania, sneyking and boxi won a TIit was no different with bigshitty winning b2b tispretending the west has no new talent is retarded when puppey is asked to step in for a eue team
how the fuck did spirit turn this around
>>499753857aurora pushed hg
i hate bristleturd being meta
lol
>Enemy picks Faceless Void>Stuns on every attack>I pick Faceless Void>No stun for like 10 attacks in a rowWhat the sigma.Is there some trick to this?
is batrider even a core anymore? feels like the hero doesn't do much anymore especially after all the nerfs over the years.>firefly used to have an ms boost as well as flying vision
>>499754591almost always support. very rarely mid. i think i saw it mid like twice last ti and it lost both times.honestly, the thing is you can afford blink and force staff as a support these days so you might as well play support.
are they tilted?
>>499748714Valve would benefit from hiring jannie devs to maintain and add features to games. I know for a fact if tf2 had like 10 jannie devs arbitrarily buffing and nerfing weapons, that tf2 players wouldn't have had a meltie over CHADlock.
>>499755949Valve is tiny (based on the employee number leaks), destructively mercurial (the whole TI situation, killing Dota by literally denying it working servers for weeks) and absolutely inept at reading the room (Artifact, Underlords, focusing on balance changes for Deadlock instead of matchmaking and hero models, killing TI and zeroing out the goodwill from patches and Crownfall by doing so).It seems like being tiny and never communicating/lying during communication is their baseline modus operandi. There will always be a danger to Dota until they fundamentally change their approach.
>>499756604back at it again?
>>499757362I'm thinking of making an info compilation for all dual gaming Dota/Deadlock players and former Dota players a regular fixture of DLG. Didn't decide yet though. The graph I posted above shows that a huge number of people reached the exact same conclusions I did and at precisely the same time. Posting a regular info to provide everyone related to Dota with perspective on Valve's polices could have noticeable effect.
>>499757760correlation does not equal causation
>muh chartsIf you were any good at identifying trends and reading the hearts of the masses, you'd be rich instead of talking like a /biz/fag.
>>499757827>number of comments cursing Deadlock grows every week on every Dota related platform>Deadlock takes a nosedive right after a failed TI ends, almost surely due to leaving Dota players (who are prevented from fully returning to Dota by Valve's broken servers) >crownfall looks to be delayed by half a year>Valve's words spoken at TI about act 4 being ready (Tsunami's "long have we waited" speech) turned out to be false
>>499758063I like charts and precision (not an autist, just a guy who likes disciplin, control and order).
>>499758187i dont give a fuck about deadlock,dota is 14 years old, its ok valve can put out new ip even if it failscrownfall was not delayed at all, you are still making this retarded statement the event was extendedtsunami isnt a valve employee
>>499744250That's a bunch of heros?>>499745226Eternal Shroud is still way too strong and it makes him almost immortal
Someone should make a dota champ picker for deadlockbabies. Like for League.
is anyone still having issues with confirming their match?
>>499758435>tsunami isnt a valve employeeThen who gave him the go ahead to say this so clearly? It happened right during the presentation of a new hero trailer (made by Valve and posted on Valve's channel) on the final day of the event. https://youtube.com/watch?v=ZqIFVTc8j80&pp=ygULS2V6IHRyYWlsZXI%3D
>>499758982you're acting like valve had control over what yames saidthese guys are contractors
i cant even find a vod of the speech tsunami made
>>499759469https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=P2DBDqwC4xw&pp=ygUTRG90YSAyMDI0IGZpbmFsIGRheQ%3D%3D 5.57.50 (no timestamp since I'm on the phone). "bird samurai has been activated" However, as we can see, nothing whatsoever has been activated and it's been 1,5 months.
>>499759936oh no not a month and a half!they leaked nov 1 as the release date which if true would be an extremely fast turned around for valve
dota gacha soon
>>499760034>extremely fast turned around for valveSee pic >>499756604
>>499760148what about it? do we know if they always planned to have kez release along with act4 all along?my comment is related to hero releases in general, we waited a long time for ringmaster
>>499760230>say "loooong have we waited, Dota players" (we were supposed to be finished by August 8) "but now, ACT 4 and KEZ are here">nothing happens
>>499760467>but now, ACT 4 and KEZ are herehe doesnt say this
>>499760467No, wait. Something did happen - the servers are broken now.
>>499760637the servers work fine for meand no one responded to this post>>499758953
>>499760615Yes he does>loooooooong have we waited >Kez is coming with act 4
>>499760730yeah and we are still waiting, he never mentions a date and makes no reference about when to expect act4 other than we've waited a long timewe remain the "after ti" period
>>499760714https://old.reddit.com/r/DotA2/comments/1gbalue/server_issue_never_ending_agony/
>>499760796Why are we waiting, if Kez and act 4 "have been activated"?
>>499760825ok, but he says hes still able to play on another serverwhat you mean to write is "euw servers are broken"
>>499760902he only says kez has been activatedwhich he was with the trailer releaseyou need to stop it with this bullshit man
>>499760998"Kez is coming with act 4"
>>499761071ok, which will be any day now"long have we waited and bird samurai is finally activated, kez is coming with crownfall act four after ti"end quotewhere again did valve lie?
>>499761114?>Kez is activated and he's coming with act 4>no Kez and no act 4 after 1,5 months >nothing whatsoever has been activated, but servers have been semi-deactivated
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>>499761258>the trailer is nothing>6 weeks is too long for me to waitlearn some patience, its a free game
>win trading epidemic>smurfing epidemic>account buying epidemic>griefing epidemic>cheating epidemic>game is apparently entirely taken over by people who want to do anything BUT play the game normally for the purposes of having a fun and fair matchcan someone who has played a part in molding this game into this weigh in on whether they actually enjoy it as it is?
>>499762075these problems plague all multiplayer gamesthe win trading one is more direct at dota2, but it affects such a low portion of the player base
what does slardar do
>pick offlane visage>our mid has a melty>flames me all game saying I am not a real tank>just feeds the enemy team until we lose>"i want to waste your time"Do these people live under a rock?
>queue up>this is my 1 and 5Wwyd
>>499762334he slards all over the enemy
>>499762075>>smurfing epidemicLiterally nothing wrong with smurfing and it should be encouraged
>>499758982There was a new hero????Who cares about this bird guy though, where is Kanna?
what if pugna could channel while channeling
>>499764576the only difference would be that he could tp while life draining right?
>Muerta 4 is now solid pro metaKek. I clearly remember how no one played her as 4 aside from Save and how much criticism he got from twitch chat.
>>499762075Multiplayer games played for fun and entertainment died with the advent of Streaming and general Ebeggar culture. Its not exclusive to Dota.Zoomers and NEET milenials started thinking that 500 more mmr, one more medal,1 more division, 1 more clip, will give them better odds at getting some spotlight time; as such multiplayer games stopped being about enjoying the gameplay or enjoying the mechanics and systems or even enjoying getting better at the game. Its about getting attention which you hope you can monetize.Issue is, overwhelming majority of players are also skill-less hacks, as such they look for shortcuts> cheating> win trading> smurfingetc.
i'm getting artifact/underlords vibes from deadlock player numbers.
>>499765707it's over
>>499765707It's literally a beta
>>499765943Doesn't matter. If it goes back to 1k, chances are Valve won't even release it to minimize a huge image hit and say it was just a "test of concept".It's crucial for Dota that this happens>>499640954
>>499766267dota will be fine whether or not deadlock makes it
>>499766373No, this can't be guaranteed anymore. Valve did the unthinkable and killed TI and now doesn't even fix critical server issues.
>>499764753meteor hammer
>>499766548ti is still alive>>499677930
ns is always underwhelming
>>499767227I already responded to that at length.
>support kotl first item orchidredpill me on this schizo build
>>499767735Nah, I've seen more pro games in which he was a primary playmaker than those in which he was weak.
>>499766267dota will be on life support whether or not deadlock makes it
>>499767987its do or die for him here
When is Act 4 of Crownfall bruh.
Delay crownfall act 4 until I can get all of the shards and get the mythic skin.
>>499768494>almost guaranteed to be caused by DeadlockDon't forget the new anti cheat
Im a LOL player but i have mad respect for how good dota 2 looks like it reminds me to how league used to looks like 10 years ago sadly im too retarded to play dota 2 and the games take too long and im brain fried because lol looks more and more pozzed everyday and looks worse and its filled with nigger characters
>>499769050lol looked like this then
>>499769050Just play Turbo, you'll get the hang of it eventually.
>>499769262Yeah and it was beutiful and perfect dota 2 is close to that style than league
>>499769262yep, much better than nurift cant even see shit
>>499768202This one has a Khanda though. Almost all of the ones I've seen went blink > bkb > basher > harpoon > abyssal, or won the game while still being at basher.
>>499769262It looks better than it is right now.
>>499769776already coping?
>>499770120even with blink bkb this ns does absolutely nothing while dusa diesthe only game ns looked alright this tournament it was being played by spirit
the problem with ns remains that he can not farm worth shit
>kiyotaka with 11 on his jersey>not 50wtf is wrong with him
>>499769262Unironically soul
>150% dmg>30% inc movement speed>debuff immune>95% magic resistanceis this balanced?
>>499770120I posted this when they were up 19k.
>>499771210none of the ns players at this tournament went basherall of them went nullifer except for sabrekek who couldnt make it past echo
>>499771317Ok. I didn't watch that many games from this event yet.I'm talking about the way NS was played during the last couple of seasons.
>>499771443post some of these gamesthen let us analyze them
>>499771160>aghs on grimyeah
>>499771160>cast range 1200this is pretty disgusting too. means it's super easy to get it off.
>>499771579Here's a recent one without a Khanda. He was a nullifier though.https://www.dotabuff.com/matches/7937136410
>>499771905again played by spirit note he got basher after the nulliferif the hero needs to be played by former ti winners to excel its definitely underwhelmingalso note that they didnt pick ns again in that series despite it not being banned and went on to get eliminated from ti
is tundra our guys?
>>499774414nightfall<skiterlorenof=malr1ne33>ATFsaksa=cr1t-whitemon>sneyking
>>499774867>nightfall<skiternightfall is rank 1skiter is rank 218
>>499775081skiter has an aegis
>>499775190shitter sucks
>i wonder if she's been blacked
>>499771160You have to pick grimstroke to use it so yes
>>499774414they filtered all the dipshits onto falcons so tundra is the easiest team to root for nowadays
if falcons wins this tournament does that mean heroic is the best team in the world?
>>499779192Heroic will be able to show everyone their skills in just a couple of days in the first full house event of the season.
>>499779810>forgot about Collapse still taking a breakWell almost full.
rtz should be the new spirit offlane
That troll character is literally Jayce with Tryndamere's ult
muerta pos 4 picks up 6x in a week
>>499780486Typical story.
>>499779810>online
>>499779810inhouse event of the season
god i hate aids infested russiansplay dotarussiansplay rustrussiansif russia were to disappear in a freak accident nobody would careNO IW ONT LISTEN TO YOUR SHITTY LANGUAGE WHILE IM TRYING TO LANE I FUCKING HATE THEM ALLDONT THINK IVE EVER SPOKE TO A RUSSIAN INGAME IVE LIKEDTHEY NEED TO BE GENOCIDEDISRAEL GET TO IT
>>499781375This isn't just an online event. It's a part of 3 online and 2 offline events hosted by ESL which collect points for Riyadh Masters.
>>499783215>arab lanno one gives a shit
>>499783475Well the teams seem to hold an opposite opinion, seeing as almost everyone is right there on the dot for the first ESL event of the season.
>>499783818the teams just want to make money, which is what the arabs provide
hello /de dos ge/ is the meta still clump together at 5 minutes then brool for 20 minutes while bugmen casters shout
nattea is looking like such a whore this tournament
>>499762334-24 (armor)
brool
when you morph, do you get the enemy attributes (not counting items)? so if you morph to a low level target that's technically worse?
>>499784184No, you pick luna, medusa, or sf and farm while your team 4v4s
>>499785615ye
>>499767943Mobility mid counter?!??!?
*first picks pudge*
A new day beginsSIEG HEIL TO ALL MY MASON PEEPS!
why does tundra think viper is a good hero
TOWER IS UNDER ATTACKwhy do they have the voice on stream
How come Dota 2 never managed to get the amount of soul that HoN had?https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q7B94ylv69A
>>499788531Why didn't get move away?
Snakelady doing it
ammar the feeder
>>499790136>
>>499790485Well she was
>crystal maiden now going to be fingered
>buy refresher>no gold for bbdoes he want to throw?
>>499765943dota didn't lose players in beta
>>499792229Don't need buyback if he doesn't die. Totally okay.
>>499765707I uninstalled Deadlock because it kept going 500 ms. The gameplay is fun but fix the netcode.
How do I play Ember spirit?
does crit playing anything other than hw
>>499796762looks like its his 7th hoodwink game
>Act 4 will release after TIDaily reminder that "after TI" means anywhere from "1 second after TI ends" to "the heat death of the Universe."
>>499765707True moba shooter is just a bad idea. It doesn't match. Having to aim while also doing all the macro shit is too much. >But smite!Smite is league but auto attacks are also skillshots. It's not a true shooter.Market is also fucking saturated beyond belief. Valve and all other devs need to invest into parts of the gaming market that doesn't have so many competitors. Valve is even retarded enough to compete with THREE of their own games (dota as moba, cs2 as comp shooter, tf2 as hero/class shooter).
we need the old map backthis shit is pure cancer
>play alch>give storm spirit an aghs>have to use aghs on an ally to get the effect>storm never gives aghs back and it takes up a 6th slot in his inventory all game>losehow am i supposed to ping "you have my aghs. i need to use it on you for you to get the effect" to allies
Reminder that Valve never released the Heavy update either. They have a history of abandoning their games while an update is pending.
>>499797310you don'tyou accept that you're retarded and never make that mistake again
>>499797310Lmao retard You deserve the loss for not knowing how it works
Any tips for spectre?
>>499797590lurk in your man cave jungle until it's time to kill steal
god i wish i was famous like rtzliterally no one talks back to him in pubs and just follow him like sheep
>>499797406I'm pretty sure dota 2 is coming close to the tf2 situation where valve starts giving less and less support.
>>499797590the facet that shoots a dagger on reality is on a 1s timeruse your ult whenever it's up to kill steal and reality back to your original location get huge and start rolling over people with your ks gold mid game
Is this what you people were talking about?Richard Lewis just put out a video about the PGL eventhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RkSpRvd-xSc
Whenever my teammate starts shit talking the enemy I start subtly throwing to elicit a panicked response from them.I am mentally ill.
it feels like half the pro games are decided by who gets lucky with smoke ganks
I THOUGHT OF A GREAT CHANGE>during bkb you are unable to use tpholy shit i just saved dota
>>499800731that just makes the game much worseare you stupid?
>>499800938i accept your concession
>>499798079>starts out shitting on purge in the first minutekek and this guy wonders why people dislike him
>>499801124
>>499797868>>499797712YOU GET AN EFFECTIVE GLOBAL KILL STEAL BUTTON AND A GLOBAL TP?
>>499796380pls respond.
>>499801895He's one of the most difficult heroes to play well or even decently anon. Perhaps it would be better to pick someone else if you're new.Both Storm and Void spirits are more intuitive, if you want a high mobility mid.
>>499803169Im not new, I just never played that hero.i've never played puck either.I have like 9000 hours.
>>499803697Then you can watch replays of pro players. With so many hours you'll be able to catch a lot of details.
>>499804145I guess, but what I really want to know is what's the playstyle of it, and maybe how to combo the chains properly. Obviously playing ember's playstyle isn't the same as playing Shadowfiend.Time to spectate then.
>>499804583>what's the playstyle of itKnowing when to hard commit or not and remnant management.
>>499797231Memewatch is a good example of exactly why mixing a shooter with MOBA elements is a terrible idea. Because either the primary skill element, aim, dominates the game like it does in Memewatch with snipers dominating the game 24/7 unless Blizzard fucks something up while overcorrecting, or aim is secondary to other mechanics so then the call of doody kiddies refuse to play it because it's anti-skill or whatever other whiny complaint they'd like to make. To be fair, they're not wrong about that when it comes to Valorant and its twinkling star shit, among other things. But you get the idea. They're conflicting avenues of "fun" or "skill expression", and both camps can't be happy, especially in a competitive ranked environment where teammate competence also matters.I didn't play Deadlock but I'm not holding my breath for it to turn out any better. After Memewatch, I gave up wanting to play any pvp shooter game forever. I'm not an 18 year old Korean who's had 5 years internet cafe experience, so trying to put up with the stresses of playing any competitive shooter is just asking to be miserable. There are better games to play that don't require irl stat checks like reflexes+perfect mouse aim precision while spending 90% of the game behind a corner because you can't pop a smoke yet. Or constantly having to aim for 20+ mins or however long a Deadlock game is before just getting tired of it. When you queue up auto-attack commands when doing shit, you get to take mental breaks even if you're still glued to the screen, but that's not happening with a shooter.I get why Valve and Icefrog have this intense urge to make a game that combines the two genres, but it's a doomed concept. The worst part is that I can see them getting their feelings hurt and resenting gamers for a few years like when they made Artifact. Sucks.
>>499805475Overwatch is like team fortress then. Not a moba. You don't get levels or items.
>>499805475>Snipers dominate OverwatchHuh? Since when? Widow has always been nerfed to the point she couldn't one shot the lowest HP character in the game with a charged bodyshot.
>>499727414ummmmmmmmm it's actually just been EXTENDED chuddy mmmkay???? not delayed get it through your FUCKING skull valve would never. this is all so we can have better content than the battlepass btw :) even though we also have it behind nonoptional paywalls for shit you don't give a shit about but shut the FUCK up and buy it now!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
>>499758435>crownfall was not delayed at allact 3 was delayed by a month and a half and act 4 was supposed to come out and finished 2 (almost 3) months ago
>>499806374once the event was extended those dates were no longer relevantthere is a difference
>>499805475unironically the best parts about deadlock have very little to do with the combining of the moba and shooter genre. i'd be willing to bet that most people playing deadlock would've dropped the SHIT outta it a long time ago if the game didn't have such fun movement mechanics and interesting concepts like an actual honest to good meele system that isn't just "mash button to finish the enemy off"
>>499805863>NOW ENTERING: CIRCUIT ROYALEit's just dogshit in ow2 because you now have no real ability to engage her in sniper maps since dps can't really dive on their own and the tank trying to take her off is literally feeding since there's only one. this didn't really happen in ow1.classic blizz balance>>499807004so you admit that the acts were delayed then? the event being extended should hold no power over when the acts themselves would be released if this wasn't the case, chomo.
>>499805695I did say "mixed with MOBA elements" since it's hard to argue it's a full MOBA. Because Blizzard is the master of diluting concepts and implementing them half-assedly in an attempt to pander to everyone but still everyone equally instead. Or TF2 is closer to a MOBA than you'd care to admit.If Memewatch is this bad with only a couple mechanics mixed in, imagine how much worse it'd get when you go all-in.There was also Battleborn but I can't comment on how good/bad it was since I never touched it.>>499805863Sojourn has dominated the game's meta since OW2 release. Every time Sojourn drops out of the meta, Blizzard buffs her for like three patches straight. Widowmaker is old news but also, she's actually still decently relevant. Literally powercrept by Sojourn, so you don't see her much. Blizzard's great solution to addressing all "widowmaker op pls nerf" complaints that have been out for years: release an even stronger sniper. Blizzard goes out of their way to suck sniper cocks. They nerf everybody and everything else to pretend they care about balance but they always refuse to touch the snipers unless it's by accident.An analogy would be like if in this last patch, Valve refused to nerf Bracers so instead of doing the right thing and nerfing Bracers, they go out of their way to nerf STR gains and stats on every hero and item except Bracers. And that just creates 50 new problems and everybody's still buying 3-4 Bracers on every hero. And if illusion heroes like SD get meta because they can fight with fat 4k HP illusions, the illusion heroes will get hit with the nerf stick next patch while Bracers stay untouched. That's how it's like with Blizzard balance and snipers.
>>499807480>so you admit that the acts were delayed then?not at allthe event being extended does hold power since the schedule changed
>>499807831kys blogfag
I'm so fucking bad at this game holy shit.
>>499807190If it actually works out well, that'd be great. I wish Valve devs all the best success even if it unfortunately means Dota gets neglected. As long as the game gets to be maintained it'll be fine I guess......
>>499809536that's an impressive graph
>>499807190Deadlock would have been kino as an arena death match game.
Who thought adding a bullet hell ability into Dota was a good idea?
>>499811727primal beast agh?
>>499811920It was in laning phase just a hoard of lil guys marching.
>>499812049that's kind of unavoidable, just run out of the area
>>499812261Yeah, I'm surprised at how every Dota hero is unique. With league you always have the 3 hit passive + mandatory dash combo.
how is larl so fucking bad
>>499812427You never got to experience the Real Techies
this game is such a joke right noweverybody cast instantly like rubick used to doescape neutral items out of their assesrandom effects everywhererandom secondary buffs that makes no sense whatsoeverlifestealer is able to do whatever he wants he infests a neutral and get hasted for absolutely no reasonand people wonder why this game died my fucking sides
>medusa alch every gameI hate it.
>>499814858>lifestealer is able to do whatever he wants he infests a neutral and get hasted for absolutely no reasonhello newfag
>pushing out sidelane as pos3>pos1+pos4 sniper start a fight chasing down mid>they die no kills>enemy team runs down fed mid before tp finishesWhat is the correct play here besides time the TP better. Do I just sit with my team all the time if they want to constantly broool?
Why do people pick medusaWhy did pros started picking this throw pick again
>>499816231pick lycan and pooosh
>>499816231yes, pos3 should want to brool all the timethis is a great scenario for you
>>499810321posted wrong game too, client bugged and showed the last game. post still stands.
>>499816390Retards being retards like always.She deals no damage even with six slotted.
>>499815959stfu turbofagenjoy your defense of the champions
>>499816407pos1+pos4 were at river when they died, pos2 was at t2 mid. I geuss I just tp earlier or sit mid.
>>499816830>>499816458
it would be cool seeing how spirit would look if larl won mid. it hasn't happened a single time.
who do you respect morea grandmaster earth spirit, visage, or elder titan
I love seeing Medusa lose. Fuck that tanky overpowered hero
>>499817262it would be really cool if champions started wasting mana again
>>499817262How is the new carry by the way
>medusa is overpowere-
>>499818247probably Earth Spiritidk, i have a couple hundred games as Visage and i think the microing required for the Familiars isn't too bad
>>499818710satanic is good
>>499798079qrd?
>>499817262For all the shit people give quinn he at least can carry games or recover and then have an impact when his 3-4-5 ride his ass
spirit need to kick larl
>>499822290>larl stayed when the others bouncedI kinda wonder how they picked him after locationlocation. Wonder if this is teething problem + substitute or just core diffed hard. I don't get why they didn't kiss the morph under t2.
>let's stand in a 400 aoe and channel portal within blink range?????
>>499823019it's called matchfixing
Ench losing again...
>>499823601buff our girl
come home, white man
>>499823601Wake me up when the deer starts winning again
>>499823820isn't dota one of the brownest games there is? dota really started gettign popular in the mid 2000s and wc3 came out in 2001. by the mid 2000s there were better games to play, not to mention ps3/xb360 were a thing.
>>499823945He sure likes Ench in a sun hat, hmm so do I actually
>>499824241idk actually
Nothing makes me angrier than when a teammate drops a neutral, dosen't pick it up, and picks up mine. Absolute nigger behavior.I made my teammate look for my T3 neutral and refused to fight until they found it.
Drawfags?
>>499826197sorry i've been too busy playing factorio
>>499826197they are at the deadlock general
>>499827453No...
I really like Venge's Arcana but $54AUD is just an insane price to pay for a cosmetic item in any video game. I play a lot of gacha games and you can almost always get the best shit free if you do your daily quests and are thoughtful with resource expenditure. Even with casual monthly pass purchases in some of those games I haven't spend $54 in total across all gacha games. Insane amount of money for a single hero outfit.
>>499827453No I'm actually in /v/
>>499825443I mean you're right but you also griefed the game.
>>499807919cope chomo
>accidentally pick up my teammates neutral>he sperges out and goes afk in fountain for the rest of the gameforced 50 isnt real btw
Newfag here, aren't neutrals basically free game since they just sit in shop?
>>499818768they should buff her
>>499829632You can only use one at a time and you can only take one of each tier, you are literally supposed to take them whenever you can
i hate this fucking game
>>499831447Obviously, but since you can only take one at a time why are people raging at teammates for taking or not taking theirs?
>>499833783Sup bro.Games are unwinnable.
>>499833896>takingThey are entitled retards that think they deserve to get one before someone else, or a player is being a retard and picked up a dropped token they can't use and refuses to send it to the team stash>not takingIf someone doesn't take a neutral item or upgrade to a higher tier they are griefing themselves and the team
will i get my main acc tagged in the smurf pool if i buy an account to share with my friend so we can queue together?
>>499834158Why wouldn't they send it to the stash? I haven't encountered this. Also I often don't upgrade to tier 3 if I have Eye of the Vizier.
>>499834004>>499833783My last ranked game had this pos 4 morphling. He just straight up ran into the enemy and died, over and over until we lost. Thanks Valve
>>499834272>Why wouldn't they send it to the stash? Because they are retards>Also I often don't upgradeIt depends on what hero and what items are offered
>>499833783>>499834004>>499834707>games get decided the same way all the way to immortalthe fucks the point in climbing, unless the other two are also herald bros.
>>499835090That morph was in one of my games at around 6.5k MMR. He either bought his account or was extremely drunk. Not sure how he'd get up there otherwise.
>>499835234I genuinely wonder how common buying/boosting is in mobas. Because it feels extremely fucking common. I'm just going to sit in my comfy retard rank learning the game from the occasional booster/smurf telling the team what to do.
>>499835419Extremely common I bet. Just loaded into my next ranked game, got this. Wish us luck
>>499835682hopes and prayers from herald.
>>499835682why thoughlike what the fuck do you get out of itnot like runescape where you can smith some fuckin rune easy
>>499837178The people who buy boosts are like that one anon from these threads who insists that "MMR is meaningless, people play the same from 1k to 9k". He genuinely believes he'd win more games if he were suddenly in Immortal, instead of just chain feeding down back to Crusader or whatever he's at. Boostees are brain damaged.
what game do i play if i want to play a single player version of Dota? like Diablo or Path of Exile or something?
grubby?
>>499838415grubby won./d2g/ lost.he moved on.we are still shackled here.
>>499840216>moved on
Diretide soon, ooooo ghosts spooky
>>499790607>>499791704>>499842294Love the anime Dota art.
>>499842438Mmm, that AI shit is shit though
>>499842438you just want someone to reply >ai slopahere's your (You)
>>499841908I never saw Grubby playing mid. Does this mean that mid is officially the hardest position to play?
>play serious; lose>play troll; winI couldn't stop laughing honestly, oh well next game there will be feeders as karma.
>>499842976Is it AI? I assumed that was the name of the artist.
>next tournament starts a day after the finals of current onethe fuck is going on in dotacan these tournament organizers relax? less is more
>>499847964nope, they are all fighting each other for viewershipvalve used to steer the ship but the retard crew wanted to fend for themselves
>>499847964I think there was less than a week from PGL to BB too, starting to feel exhausted. might just start watching finals.
who killed dota
>>499850883me
dead game
>>499855764not if i have anything to say about it
let's gamebad gamedead game whatcha name?
when is elon musk going to make enchantress real for me
Is it just me or Diffusal's 40 mana burn per hit is not that effective against Medusa's huge ass mana pool nowadays?
HOT TAKE INCOMINGarmor should be derived from INT
>>499863891yeah but shouldnt Agi give something besides just armor? maybe give Agi move speed per point in Agi?
>>499864896Hi 2007
>>499864896AGI should be evasion and attack speed
>>499865156>all cores buying bloodthorn/mkb every game now
>>499863178it's only good on heroes who already buy diffusal regardless of dusa
why does everyone like Shadow Fiend so much?
>>499871928he is very strong, cool, and
>>499872160yeah but you could say that about most of the heroes
>>499871928he's the OG
Why do these fucking BetBoom streams always end prematurely? I just want to watch BetBoom v Spirit.
>>499845079ObviouslyMid players are giga-sweats who receive sexual pleasure from out playing their opponent in lane and dominating them in the CS, rune, and poke mini-games. You're a core but you have no support to babysit you. You're in the most isolated but also most open lane. You're expected to take your natural xp advantage and carry the midgame with it till pos 1 can take over. And you're like the only core who needs an equal amount of game sense as the supports.
Everyone is retarded right now. I cant believe i have to tell my pos 1 medusa to stop building stupid shit items and get a rapier. Lo and behold the minute he gets this rapier we win the entire game and im like how is this fucking retard immortal everyone is a fucking retard now
>>499874859>You're a core but you have no support to babysit you.Tell that to the midtrooms that cry about no ganks after losing 1v1
>two games in a row one on my teammates just straight decided to not play from minute 1Why everyone is so deranged in this game?
>>499879191Pvp team games do that to people.Addicts play thousands of hours and cry "let me out i dont want to play anymore" every single minute of it.
nice act 4 update dotards
August 8th end date means act IV would have had to release 4 months ago
>>499881042Yes we know dota is dying and abandoned
>game is so dead Mason became a wow streamer
>>499881780who
it's fucking over
>>499882560How?
>>499882640some games i am very reactive
>>499881042then valve extended the event and that date is no longer relevantyour extreme autism wont let it go thoughyou are hyper locked in on aug 8 and cant ignore itwhy? extreme autism
>>499847964>less is moreThat's just your opinion. Some people want to watch Dota every day or simply don't have time to watch it at specific dates and enjoy being able to tune in at any time.
>>499882969>some people want to watch Dota every daywhy does their opinion matter
For everyone who didn't read the thread - there appears to be an outsider/outsiders trying to defend Valve itt. They didn't know crucial Dota information and didn't even know where to look for Dota VODs. I don't think Valve uses paid posters (like I believe Riot does), but it could be a spouse or a relative of a Valve employee.
>>499883351>For everyone who didn't read the thread - there appears to be an outsider/outsiders trying to defend Valve itt.still trying to ignore my argument by discrediting my character> They didn't know crucial Dota information and didn't even know where to look for Dota VODs.what information was that? i told you it was ti10 without you provided the informationyou are completely full of shit, this is why you chose to attack my person
>>499883102They are an important demographic for tournament orgs.
>>499883763so are casual viewers, but you dont think their opinion matters
>>499883704>>499759469>>499675003
>>499883351>They didn't know crucial Dota informationlike you misquoting tsunami a million times in a vain effort to make valve look bad?that doesnt count though, right?
>>499883823Huh? Casual viewers are important for orgs too, I mentioned them right after hardcore watchers.
>>499883876so i couldnt find one vod, which you should have provided anyways since you were using the information within your vod to make a point (which you ended up completely wrong about)regarding the playerbase numbers, you creating a strawman argument to push crownfall players numbers in may is irrelevant to my point about the users in september prior to ti10 and ti14
>>499883351We know you're paid to pretend dota is dead, now fuck off.
>>499883983you mention that they should be satisfied with missing most of the action since its everydaybut i think they deserve better
>>499884083I never said that once in my life. I'm the guy saying TI has been intentionally killed by Valve and that Deadlock failing is very important for Dota.I fully dropped Deadlock myself for Dota's sake and there's ~0 chance I'll ever return to it no matter what Valve does from how on.
>>499884349>I'm the guy saying TI has been intentionally killed by Valve and that Deadlock failing is very important for Dota.yeah exactly what a shill would do, especially after being shown he is wrong
>>499883351>>499884349>accuses others of being outsiders>posts like thisIs this an elaborate troll?
>>499884506very likely, especially given how they repeat their dumb ideas every couple of days
>>499884396>especially after being shown he is wrongNever happened once. Again:1 My opinion is the default one in the community>>4996958172 TI 2024 has lost half of its viewership compared to TI 2021 (the only one it can be compared to) and it's near guaranteed to get worse if Valve doesn't change its policies 3 The destruction of TI by Valve began all the way in 2022 by splitting the battle pass in two and likely internationally making the event have terrible technical issues + poor production. >Explore a new two-part style of Battle Pass, with one part arriving now to celebrate the majesty of The International and another following soon https://www.dota2.com/battlepass2022Going to reply in the next thread in an hour or so.
>>499884614Why are shills so fucking stupid? Instead of wording things better and slightly differently they just hammer down the same fucking bullshit with the same images with the same shit word for word. I suppose they aren't getting paid well.
>>499884807>Going to reply in the next thread in an hour or so.Don't, no one gives a shit about your astroturfing retardation.
>>499884807>Never happened oncesure it did, many times even if you choose to be ignorant>My opinion is the default one in the communityi too was able to cherrypick comments that aligned with my thinking, updoots be damned>TI 2024 has lost half of its viewership compared to TI 2021 (the only one it can be compared to) and it's near guaranteed to get worse if Valve doesn't change its policies it wasnt half, it was less than half but you must exaggerate to obscure your argumentthe playerbase was smaller in sept 2021 than it was in sept 2024we didnt see a surge in players as one would expect with the biggest ti just weeks away>he destruction of TI by Valve began all the way in 2022 by splitting the battle pass in two and likely internationally making the event have terrible technical issues + poor production. can you list some of these technical issues and complaints with production you have? i asked you to list the production complaints before but you ignored the question entirelyyou keep making the same bad arguments
real subhuman hours
>>499888664new thread for gulagites
>>499882560sounds like you deserve it to be over, try being less of a faggot next time
>>499878350This literally never happens
