RIP Geist Edition>Steam Page:https://store.steampowered.com/app/1422450/>Where to give feedback and report bugs:https://forums.playdeadlock.com/>Latest Patch:https://forums.playdeadlock.com/threads/10-24-2024-update.40951/>How do I git in?Post your Steam profile and ask. You need to accept a friend request to be invited, so don't be autistic.>How do I git gud?Do the tutorial, get a feel for each hero in sandbox mode, explore public item builds, play bot matches.Additional Resources:>Unofficial Wikihttps://deadlocked.wiki/https://liquipedia.net/deadlock/>New Player Guidehttps://docs.google.com/document/d/1lMBE7Nli_sVJ42d-kPHjF3MBaXZdIM46gNJQC_fMGMU/edit>Advanced Movement Guidehttps://docs.google.com/document/d/1yfPHJsMrKcg_8wqa95qu0sOFxRdzKLF_eUWOZX7RLHcThreadlocked:>>499687664
Magician is still tranny coded btw
first for lash twerking
Geist got double prong nerfed fuck that hero YepMake her ass bigger as a compensation and add SFX thst makes her cheeks clap when she jumps up and lands down
0TTKB0TTKB0TTKB0TTKBONE MORE FOR INHOUSE HOLY SHIT JUST JOIN PLEASE0TTKB0TTKB0TTKB
0TTKB11/12GET THE FUCK IN HERE NIGGER(S)!!!
inhouse is dead
>nerf talon>buff other stuff>new patch>revert all the nerfs>don't touch the buffs>wonder why he's broken now
REMINDER NEW HERO QUEUE STARTS IN 45 MINUTES!!!
I haven't got on today, how broken is talon/vindicta?
>>499710667Give her a stacking hp buff on kills against people you've recently ulted that makes her just a tiny bit taller for every stack she gets.
Deadhouses holy shit kill me
>Vindicta does 500 damage as soon as she hits 6 with her ult fair and balanced
0TTKBNEED 1 SHITTERS WELCOME
Do not join the inhouse or you will not be able to play in Hero labs for the full time slot.
>>499710903You think I can que as EU faggot if i use the command
>>499711056It's 45 minutes. We'll gentlemen's agreement to wrap shit up.
>>499710909talon is even worse than last patch shivif you queue right now with that thing in the game you are griefing
This game is unplayable until matchmaking is fixed (never)I am guaranteed to get two players inting because the game punishes good players. This matchmaking will never ever be fixed, 6v6 was a mistake, they'll make matchmaking worse and worse just so you can find players
>>499711212Europe?
>>499711042sorry i got two more hours on my shift unless someone hosts an inhouse past 10:30pm
POst feedback in the forums!
>>499711056what fucking game takes 50 minutes nowadays?they actually take even less than last patch because of the respawn change
>my main got buffed againhonest hero
ready up
OH MY FUCKING GOD TWO OF YOU NIGGERS AREN"T EVEN ON THE UPDATED VERSION OF THE GAME
Enemy PDX starts seething telling us not to sweat so hard and generally crying>he's 13/3we won but why are dox players so mentally ill?
>>499710490I literally saw it live dipshit. It was hype but it wasn't all that.
>>499711149don't worry I'm queuing as him.
0TTKB0TTKB0TTKB0TTKBlets go FUCK
>>499711362We have been waiting in lobby for one hundred years....
I need your STRONGEST gray talon images, he's the HERO OF THIS PATCH, ABUSE WHILE YOU CAN
>>499711558vindicta got better buffs
are people somehow talking in the lobby or is it just my mild schizophrenia again
Sorry bros I can't play ih tonight I have DnD.
0TTKB0TTKB0TTKB0TTKBONE MORE
I cared for Grandma Talon since the start. You trendy kids piss me off
30 more mins before hero lab queue opens up who you guys gunning for first
>>499711558
Yamato then accused me of using auto-parryWho was in the wrong here?
>>499711897I dont really care about playing broken, half-assed characters
>>499711558CHADlon bros, it's our time
my wife
I was already sick of talon last patch. He has one of those kits that will never be healthy if he's ever half good.
>>499712016https://youtu.be/MK6TXMsvgQg
>>499710486They're gonna hotfix the bird granny into the ground tomorrow, aren't they?
>>499711897Viper
>>499712308this used to be in every online parodythose were better times
Was magic carpet the last new item we got?
>>499712437>remove gun build from ivy>make it a new characterBravo icefrog
I give up man I just suck at this game
>>499712437>ivy now has a shirtnyooo...
>>499712441deadlock will correct the timeline and everything will be good again
>>499712637based
>>499711558vindicta can literally just beam talon by holding left mouse while the granny tries to land his arrows
>>499712637Slork is just around the corner man he will carry you
>>499712637based giver-upper chad
the game is too dark now
>match making keeps getting worse after each updatedead game already, why are they trying to kill it more?
>superior duration magic carpet echo shard magician can remove someone from the game for 8.58 secondsseems balanced
The game should have random seasons that affect the map. I want to slip slide during the winter variation.
>>499711897i'm gonna wreck it
>>499713035that would be terrible for ranked and tourneys. aint happenin
>>499712637You don't know it yet, but you won.
>>499713234Dota has it alreadyhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rcv8i7DtyRk
>>499713234>toggle it off for ranked and tourneyfagswow so hard
>>499710667>Make her ass bigger as a compensation and add SFX thst makes her cheeks clap when she jumps up and lands downI would support this change. These devs can't manage a raw early development game like this then I stopped caring, just turn to goon.
>>499712119>can slither into the back of teamsWith what fucking movement skill? Slides? A hopskotch-grade jump?
ADD A SLIP N SLIDE ON THE BRIDGES YOSHI
Hybrid Ivy is gonna be even stronger with the Tesla buff.
>players have been using the console to peek behind the curtain at unfinished heroes>players have been giving feedback on these unfinished heroes>instead of taking away the console commands that let players do this, the devs just added an official way to play unfinished heroes so they can harvest more feedbackbased
>>499713234does anyone here legit find deadlock tourneys even fun to watch lol after watching dota 2 betboom tournament it really doesnt even come close to the entertainment factor same goes with cs2 but maybe its just way to early and it will get better overtime and we need deadlock classic
>>499712437
>>499713773tourneys will be better to watch once there is a proper spectator mode with a dynamic camera
>- Yamato's Flying Strike now stops tracking targets that teleportBoo
Calico shouldn't break invisibility in her ult like Slark's doesn't.It's a shooter if there's a black cloud you can send right clicks into the cloud just fine, it's just preventing targeted abilities being cast on her for a bit.
There's a new hero called Vandal in the console. His 1 and 4 are both Wraith's ult and his 3 is Infernus's passive, but his 2 seems to be a unique ability that petrifies everyone in a small AOE after a short delay.His gun ramps up like Miku's, but faster.
>>499714321
>>499714321Petrify is Kali's
Anyone tried Siphon Bullets on Mo and Krill? They made Improved Burst useless with Scorn with the new 200 damage threshold so I'm trying to figure out how I should be building. I think I want to do something like>laning items>roaming: torment pulse, fleetfoot, better boots>cold front here?>phantom strike for late roaming or brooling phase>siphon bullets then T3 spirit items>OR T3 spirit items then siphon bulletsI like the idea of scaling my max HP to huge numbers, buying resist stuff, and burrowing around in fights spamming Scorn to build up damage amp stacks. But I worry Siphon Bullets isn't significant unless you buy it really early, and I'm not going to be doing a lot of shooting to trigger it while roaming, and again probably not much in the teamfight phase>no QSR?It only procs every 12 seconds at best, which makes it annoying with the ~5.85s CD Scorn with cooldown items. I might try to buy it in lane if we're winning handily, though.
Did you have fun, Infernus, huh? HUH? WAS THAT FUN FOR YOU!? SILENCER+VAMPIRIC LEECH SIPHON TOXIC BULLETS INHIBITOR RICOCHET!? DO YOU TOGGLE ON GODMODE IN SINGLE PLAYER GAMES TOO, INFERNUS!?!? DO YOU REALLY NEED 1700 AFTERBURN DAMAGE INFERNUS!? YOU JUST STAND THERE AND SHOOT AND KILL EVERYTHING INFERNUS!? IS TANKING 70,000 DAMAGE BUT ONLY DYING 3 TIMES FAIR, INFERNUS!?!?
>>499714392I wasn't in the previous thread.>>499714448Was it an old ability? I don't remember him having it any of the times I've tried him, and he doesn't seem to have it now.Speaking of Kali, I'm surprised Viper wasn't Kali.
>>499713525>>toggle it offnigga, its not a fucking light switch you fucking mong
> Mo & Krill: Burrow bullet and spirit resist now persist while spinning out of the burrowThis makes him retardedly strong, right?
>>499714717makes magic carpet mo even more stupid
Kuzco is actually the blackest most useless nigger I've ever seen it's crazy.This nigga is genuinely impossible to carry.This nigga is the nigga that makes valve buff/not nerf infernus every patch.
remind the tripfag everytime he goes 1-11 on vindictia to kill himself
>>499714717wow, I can't believe I skipped that line in the patch notes. Yes, that's a HUGE buff. (he needed it, he had horrendous winrates, but still that's big)
>>499714673the current version of Viper/Kali that shows up on the experimental tab has Petrify as their ult
>>499714673Viper IS Kali, the first ability is the same
>>499714678alright crank it off then jeez
It seems my day vindicta might've caused some controversy in the inhouse....>>499708198Thanks for letting me pick vindicta!
foot bitch and cop bullied the absolute dog shit out of my jap samurai and her gremlin support bot holy FUCK what happened in that lane
I miss Yamato flying strike buffer heavy punch even though it was an obvious oversight and bound to get fixed. At least improved burst is back
The black woman of Valve unoriginality.These are TWO different characters.
>>499715015might actually skip this patch not playing a vindicta meta and grey talon yall niggas can deal with that bs
>>499714856At least he doesn't whine and bitch in voice and text all game, so I'd rather have 5 kuzcos that one triptranny.
>>499714898>>499714918Kali is still in the console, though. I think Viper is a different member of the same species.But yeah, I hadn't looked at Viper yet and didn't see the Petrify ult.
>>499715016we were hard winning and then the vindicta buffs/yamato nerfs kicked in and warden+vindicta is one of the strongest lanes in the gamethen haze dived us with ult and 3 man took tower AND walker for freeThe haze that was fed because kuzconaut was like 0/4 3 minutes in (kuzconaut was farming a tier 2 camp during all this as his own lane was pushing in)
I got raped t. LashMajestic leap is too shite now I shoulda rushed cooldown reduction instead of veilwaker and leap
can someone post the "IS THIS YOUR CARD? FAG" image if they have it, I apparently no longer have it saved and will be needing it for Magician shitposting
>>499714321>White Abrams with an UrnBRAVO VALVE
bros what should i buy on the slippery viper or Shotgun Slark help me
Anyone wants to party up for the autism new heroes que
>>499715528Me
>>499712637One more game. It'll click this time.
I am currently 4-17 as new shiv he fuckin sucks now. Used to go like 12-10
Interesting that Viper and Magician are both allowed to CC their own teammates.
>>499715528post party code
>>499715310I got a triple kill the game before now, yet that wasn't enough to stop the resident archon vindicta from feeding away the game. This game, they managed to take my guardian while I roamed, so they at least did something right.
>Viper's gimmick is sliding>Shoots acid from her gun>Is named Viper>Is a scalieI don't think she is going to stay two legged bros..
>>499715528I'm down but I'm going holiday and calico
>>499715787Valve likes snake pussy.
so holiday's passive does like 140ish damage on headshot at level oneher 3 is basically a untested dev kit ability right now, play it while you can
>>499715528POST THE CODE NIGGER TIME IS TICKING
removing regeneration from objectives is such a hilarious change.
anyone got stats for last inhouse?
SOMEBODY MAKE A PARTY I WANT TO SLORK
>>499716194fuck you im slork. not inviting you bitch
>>499714515I think Colossus or Unstoppable would be a better T4 item than Siphon.Also I can't imagine playing Mo without SoP and maxing 2.
ill join a hero labs party.
MAKEAFUCKINGPARTYNIGGERS
WHY WONT YOU MAKE IT?
>>499716291>>499716334>>499716194>>499716426If the tripfag is there i'm not joining
>>499716286>>499716194I'm already slork
>>499715787
Post the party code
>>499716426I'll make one if people actually want it but I can't speak on mic due to surgery.
>>499716767DO IT FAGGOT
X9Q4YX9Q4YX9Q4YX9Q4YX9Q4YHero labs PARTY UP COME SHIT IT UP
>Paradox: Kinetic Carbine sound level reduced a little bitHow many unreasonable nerfs can one character endure
X9Q4Y2 MORE IN PARTY THEN WE SLORK
>>4997169402 SLOTS LEFT QUEUEING SOON
>>499717027That's a buff
>>499717027Thats a buff dumbass, you arent now alerting 3 lanes that you are about to shoot someone
>using wrecker ult>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qoBPSov0-k0Cant wait to play it, love his ult and voice
Oh neat im eu and it seems i can que with you guys thanks!!!
>>499716940ruh roh
>>499717453we are too powerful bros...
>>499717096>>499717117>in queuecan't join chief
>>499717453We gaan
sex with viper
>Seven's balls shrunk and his ult got biggerWas nice while it lasted.
>bebop spirit nerfs>MCGINNIS NET BUFFSAnother bad patch that makes the game worse wooo!
https://streamable.com/8a4n0mNo hard feelings bison
I know shiv was bullshit but the rage changes are so bad that he actually just can't have rage basically under any realistic context
>>499717890i know your not the tripfag but if you can play vindicta like that holy fuck the other guy is literally bottom of the barrel. Give vindicta a hard cut off range on her ult i was being killed walker from walker
what do you guys think of this viper build
>>499718542feel like the "poison snake lizard" character should have a dot passive or something
lmaooo calico is broken as shit
>>499717890Is there a hero that counters Geist harder than Vindicta?
>>499718542I think you want fortitude for speedmaxxing and more gun damage
new paradox cancer meta build but i wont say what it is
DOWNLOAD THE FUCKING UPDATE
IS THERE A INHOUSE OR SOMETHING?
i was the pocket. probably the least fun game i've had, not a single crumb of farm for me the entire game.
>>499718681she absolutely is no corner is safe from cat turrets
SLORK is actually kino. Pure kino
>>499718797With this build, movespeed in combat is 13 m/s. Since the movespeed from Fortitude is conditional I don't think it's worth the slot.
fucking why isn't he still named SLORK
>>499719132Slork is genuinely the most broken shit I've ever seen in this game and thats saying something.
When is this game getting skins? And what will they look like?
This patch actually did some good things for Gun McGinnis. You don't need Tesla Bullets for the fire rate anymore, which is a slot you can use on something else.
>>499719256I'm guessing a lot of characters will get "legacy" skins of their alpha designsViscous notably
>>499718542Add surge of power somewhere if you wanna speedmaxx
>>499718787Mo&Krill
>>499719218what's strong on him help
>>499719350>Tesla Bulletsyou never needed this on miku but ok
Push Slork into MM
Suggest me two more heroes along with Mirage, i was thinking of either Kelvin/Abrams and then a third to cover another role.
whats the skinny on the patch bros
>>499718542thats like a 50k build
who up slorking their shit
>Infernus is almost completely unchanged>Still fucking cancer>Still needs you to buy multiple items to counterbuild>Gameplay consists around buying ricochet and just applying debuffsWhy are people ok with this
>Vindigger/Gay Talon metaI sleep
slorking my peanits
Hey have we done a poll to see how much of us are EU or NA?
this plus echo shard
IF YOU DON'T UPDATE I SWEAR
they can push slork into MM right now, imo he's actually weaker than warden or mo
>>499719937WHATS THE CODE
>>499719702>revert gay talon movespeed scaling with spirit>also buff bullet damage scaling with spiritwhat the hell are they smoking?now everyones going to fucking hate gray talon even more now
>>499719757how do you respond?
>>499719993You are out of your fucking mind
>>499720071time booba...
Game crashed after gg kek
X9Q4YCODE IF ANYONE WANTS IN FOR HERO LABS2 SLOTS LEFT
2 slots open in the party X9Q4Y
>slork is OP because it has shiv's unnerfed bloodlettingwoooow
wow hero lab might be the most kino thing the game has put in the game for awhile >>499719071pure kino and one of her talents allow them to be invis
>can't get 6 of us to play all of the new heroesFUCK YOU
>viper has a petrify tooYep she's a snake
>>499720235>>499720241Is holliday available?
For some reason i find the magician portrait so funny.
>>499720250And no head hitbox>>499720310Yes, no guarantee you'll get her though
>>499720284>it's another episode of character is unkillable without antiheal
>>499720304she has a pretty sexy voice too
>>499720071how long until this gets nerfed
>>499720310yesdon't pick her she's mine
>>499720449you snoze you loze
magician damage feels so bad, is he better to build around the hex?
>>499719627I dropped Boundless Spirit (don't really need it) and Majestic Leap (you can't slide while landing).Glass Cannon and Siphon Bullets are both luxury items, you don't really need them and you definitely don't need both.
Wrecker ult can cheese urnsWelcome back release Mirage
>Warden ult on a basic ability that's always up>Invis>Shiv bloodletting but even betterwhat the fuck were they thinking
>>499720376It does have it but indont know fucking where i landed his head like only once
what affects bebops left-click range? how does laser get longer?
>>499720235NOOO I MISSED IT
>>499714717Yeah. It makes me chuckle when I see MNK get buffed every patch. Is he the lead dev's son's favorite hero or something?
>>499721042>ignoring Haze and Seven
>>499718330not true but shiv is fundementally broken so he needs to be nerfed to smithereens or he's a plague on every game
the 15% boost on headshots seems to do some weird shit with paradox carbine because with these items I'm hitting someone for 1123 danage after reverb, is there a better build I could be going with to carbinemaxx?
what does hero labs even count as, standard matches or does it just treat them as custom games?
>>499720635calico for her ult duration turns into a maxed out abrams strength with minimal bullet items it's so funny
wait viper is male???
>>499721130Surge of Power instead of Duration?
>calico cats get 3K max hp and laser you from across the mapholy shit this is the most cancer dogwater on earth
Slork is like Shiv x10000.
>>499721351theyre non-binary
Are there really only two items (fleetfoot and burst fire I think) that buff sliding? Aside from movespeed boosting items, obviously
>>499721351no
>>499721365>Surge of Powernope. carbine scales with weapon damage but does spirit damage. anything with spirit power is out as that just increases the speed boost you get while holding the charge - sup duration is a decent 15% weapon damage and also lets you hold the charge for longer + plays into the new grenade buffs so I went with it
Tell yoshi to bring back the movement tech otherwise this game will have nothing that separates the goats from the casual fodder
>region override doesn't work for hero labswhat the fuck, why? it also competes with ranked times AND there's no weekend extensionsactually retarded
>>499721351lore LITERALLY says femaleand she gets the stock female sounds
>>499721650What movement tech was removed?
>>499721351she's my wife
>Majestic Leap nerfsdamn that's crazy*magic carpet fairy dust noises*
calico is so cute bros :)
>>499721678She calls herself a "man" in one of the hero select lines. It sounds like those lines are placeholders but unlike Magician's (which are all taken from Seven) I can't find who they're from.
>>499721725fleetfoot and skill cancelling
I am not gonna play herolabs until Fathom is changed.
>>499721565I forgot about it giving damage. Debuff Remover gives 20% so you can probably replace boots with that. Also, glass cannon.
>>499721970probably leftover from kali
>more weird animals and creaturesWHERE ARE THE WHORESTHE WHOOOORESLEAGUE OF LEGENDS HAS FEMOIDS THAT LOVE TO GET COSPLAYERS IN THE MIXWHERE ARE OUR WHORES!?
>friend mumbles half the time when he talks so I can't hear him and have to tell him to speak up>I'm in the middle of fighting an Abrams>friend starts mumbling>can't concentrate on my fight and lose because "MERRMHHMHMMRRRMHMHMHMHMM">yell at friend and tell him to stop fucking mumbling and why the fuck does he have to be annoying can you go one day without being annoying>he just quietly leaves discord>then leaves and abandons the gameMaybe I was too harsh
Playing against infernus with items gives me a headache
is it just me or is Fathom's gun retardedly strong
>>499722186based, fuck autistic people
>Holliday jump pad doesn't stun or deal damage AMAZINGSOMEHOW THEY BUGGED THE ENTIRE FUCKING HEROGENUINELY UNPICKABLE
Are people still gonna complain about Shiv?
>>499722731lategame shiv is still overpowered. the nerf just means he cant play like a monkey and has to play safe to get to that point
>>499722186Deserved. They should be pressured to conform and ejected from social situations if they cannot/will not do so.
>>499722160Dota's abundance of monsters is refreshing and I'm glad Deadlock is following suit.
HOW DO I VIPER I JUST DIE
Why the fuck do they just choose a cancerous massive lingering AOE to be overpowered each patch>first seven ball>then geist grenade>now paradox grenade
>>499722731All tank characters in this game are cancerous and you can't convince me otherwise
>urge to play>load in>don't spawn in match, get stuck in spawn lobby>get teleported to a corner of the map>can't move>abandon>low priority + 2 hours banNIGGERNIGGERNIGGERNIGGERFAGGOT ASS GAME
>>499722186>can't handle autists in his autism game
>>499723116lmao she is the scout of the game clearly so play her like that calico cat turrets needs to go back to being the ulti right away
>>499722186>tell your "friend" that he's annoying every single day>come to 4chan for validationyou are a faggot holy shot i am glad i do not nkow you
outhouse status?
>>499723393t. mumbling faggot
Okay after yet another Escalating Exposure nerf and himself being nerfed again, Kelvin just isn't playable anymore.Who should I play now? I've gotten Kelvin 30 times in a row because no one else will queue as him
>>499722186youre kind of an asshole dude
>>499723473>he's so new he can't even quoteKill yourself
>>499720509You slumber, a cucumber
>>499723642>he's so new he can't even quotei wasnt trying to quote dumbass
>>499723473we don't sign our posts here, newfriend
>>499723753>>499723473low IQ posts
looks like a lot of mumbling autists had their feelings hurt
>>499722709>they removed goomba stompreally?
how did we get magician and viper before rutger and kali
>>499722160gooner appeal is a crutch for bad game design, yoshi-sama has faith in his game
>>499723898I'm playing her right now.I maxed stomp.It does nothing, doesn't stun, doesn't damage, jackshit, it just jumps.
>>499721234standard matches, they are counted into your played/games won.
>>499720534Huh? He scales pretty fucking well with spirit
wrecker fucking sucks
Why does Ivy do so much damage now?
>>499724091everything but the ult sucks
anyone else randomly stuttering?
>>499724023you have to land DIRECTLY ontop of them now for some reason.
Please tell me Slork is good...
>>499724218Slork gun damage from Q is massively overtuned
>>499724158No, i have no trouble with speaking. Are you nervous?
>>499724218You have no idea.
>>499724270Isn't it just 24% or am I retarded?
>>499724218hes fucking busted lmao
ISUCKWITHVIPER
>>499724270>>499724283>>499724338Yes... YESSS...
>>499724121>Ivy gets +0.5 bullet damage so she does 165 damage per magazine baseline instead of 149>Yoshi actually fucking borrows from the bullet scaling instead of just giving her back her 5 bullet damage>"why does she do so much damage now bros wtf!!!"Are you joking or what
>>499722160You'll take the negresses and like it
I played two games of new hero mode and you have like 11/12 people playing new heroes or experimenting and then one huge faggot playing his main rage queuing
>>499724510There are only 6 new heroes
>>499724510my experience has been 1 faggot leaving after losing lane because he didnt get to play as holliday
>calico just gets free lanes because they set up 3 cancer turrets>retard cowboy can just CC you for 10 minutes and drag you into their team
>3gb update>1gb update>press play>downloading contentLET ME FUCKING PLAY ALREADY
>>499724635i love playing calico until slork comes and slorks my shit up
>>499719218yeah it's amazing, how are you dealing with his slow reload? active reload? titanic mag? melee charge?
A brief summary of my three games today>game 1, normal queue>get stuck as the odd one out in a 5 stack>nobody talks because they're all in a discord chat together>haze and vindicta are farming addicts but we win anywaysthen I went over to hero labs>game 2, get viper>get over 1k dps by the end of the match without trying>forget to use my abilities because they're useless (aside from the passive)>game 3, magician>picrelI won all 3 but damn were none of them satisfying. Viper especially feels shitty. Spamming slide and shooting is so ridiculously OP while everything else in their kit is just dogshit and doesn't synergize at all.>>499720534You are crazy
>they soft implemented my majestic leap nerf ideaBe glad they didn't go all in. I suggested that leaping targets should be stunned when shot, just like on the hyperlines.
no wonder fathom feels so shit to play against, his head has no hitbox
>>499725187fuck you nigger
viper feels like dogshit to play
You can slide infinitely with viper it's great
viper is straight dog shit not gonna lie if i wanted to left click as a small gremlin i would play ivy
The reason slork is so fucking overtuned is because of his scaling. Abrams has 127 dps at max level with 1080 hp. SLORK HAS 212 DPS WITH 1165 HP HES LEGIT JUST OVERTUNED.He powerscales so much harder than anyone else in the game lmao.
>>499725337>>499725360IQlets don't realize you can endlessly slide and fuck around with a bottomless magazine
>>499725449I love my little shotgun monster!
>had time for two lab games>queued 4 different experimentals>regular heroes both timesI just wanted to slizard\Christ alive Fathom explodes, though.
>>499725337>>499725345>>499725360>>499725519Viper simultaneously feels broken as shit and dogshitHis stupid fucking bubble gun can't aim for shit but it has absurd damage to anything that gets close
>400mb patchnigga wut
>>499725659Definitely needs a dual lane to hold her hand until she gets a few items. If she's solo she's totally fucked
the lead weights that are my randoms are heavier than any buff
>>499725735>he's playing regulars instead of memelockcringe bro
maybe inhouse is better without these fucking monsters of characters holy shit lmao
>>499725659its just that outside of the slide gimmick (which is just a gimmick) i would literally rather play any other left click hero
When is ranked score recalculated?
>>499726074When they want it to be
>>499725519I figured that out almost instantly, she still feels ass to play.
slork is scout tf2 with a predator hook
WHATS THE POINT OF SLORKS ULTWTF IS SWAP DAMAGE?
>>499722731Is he still an OP piece of shit? (yes)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5lMvDelUo4MThis video got me thinking. Is it even worth it to stay and try to deny the enemy after you clear the wave instead of going for boxes which are safer?
WHY IS THE QUEUE ONLY 2 HOURS? WTF??? THAT'S LITERALLY TWO GAMES
>>499726465I think it depends on 1. role 2. if you're winning or losing in net worth
>>499726013Yeah. Their slipperiness isn't as fun as Viscous's since it's just slide spam, and their gun feels worse than the other left click heroes (despite being retardedly OP)
viper is so much fun holy shit
>>499726513I've managed three and I'm searching for my fourth right now
>>499726465Depends on far the lane is pushed in, I guess. If you slam it into their tower, go grab some boxes while the tower soaks your minions' damage instead of their minions.The box rewards are crazy though yeah.
man that mode has just given this game new life to me so S tier plus test heroes calico by far the most brokenfathomgood heroesmagicianholliday she could be S also all depends on the user probably the highest skill hero in this game with the current kitshit tiermini scout aka viperdogshit tier wrecker
welp if you hated fighting abrams just buy titanic mag and bullet resist shredder and he will do jack shit do you
SLORKS ULT DOES FUCKING NOTHING I DONT REGEN WHILE INVIS!!!!!!
Viper is tons of fun to play but her kit doesn't really feel like it synergizes very well.
>>499726986idk man
>>499727316I have 0 idea how you're supposed to use the ult
How would you rank the WIP heroes you've played's potential to become fun heroes when they're finished?I think Magician is already kinda fun despite his kit being so WIP, but Viper's gimmick is retarded
Is matchmaking for non-ranked completely broken? The game keeps putting me in mud MMR matches that I absolutely stomp, I've got 9 wins out of my last 10 games (the 10th game was one where half my team left), but my MMR doesn't go up and it keeps matching me against people who have never played the game before.
>>499727380The most obvious use case is to steal rejuv.Besides that, you can MAYBE use it to chase someone, but it's not great at that.>>499727431I've only played Viper so far and if they make her kit synergize better with her slide gimmick I think she'll be my new main.
spork mmr xD
>>499727370fucking lmao this was just from superior duration and boundless spirit
Played three games, got McGinnis every time. I wanted to play Viper, I don't know what Viper is supposed to do, but she never gave me trouble but once. Every time I won, Calico was on my team.
>>499722160Should've gotten ahead of the curve and became a monsterfucker sooner.
>>499726465The strength of breakables is golden statues. The boxes are kinda meh and he ends up even with their net worth by 10 minutes.
>>499727609imagine fighting talon and wrecker ult at the same time what the fuck do you do it's a guaranteed death
>>499727764>I don't know what Viper is supposed to doshe slides everywhere with a gun that's crazy OP up close and total shit at medium range, plus 50% bullet evasion
>400mb patchnotes where
>just wanted to try holliday>two losing games of bebop
>400mb patchwhat is blud (yoshi) cookin
revert calico her ult should stay the turret idk why the fuck they changed that
awhI want to try during dead OCE hours
I am not slorkpilled enough. It's over.
Well holliday feels like garbage now, she's forced to be a gun cuck hero and fish for headshots only which is just nowhere near fun, it also removes all the barrel/bounce pad synergy it sucks ass.They somehow made her boring and generic as fuck.
>>499727316yeah been playing her and only her passive is fun the rest is kinda dogshit
>>499728208https://forums.playdeadlock.com/forums/holliday-feedback-private.116/
>2 hours of testingSweet test build???
>>499715451
>>499728208>it also removes all the barrel/bounce pad synergywhat?
>>499725449this hero is legitimately hilarious and I really hope they give him a fucking gremlin voice like Wrecker has so you can "AHAHAUGHUHGUDHDFHAAAHH" every time you drop out of nowhere and blast the fuck out of someone with boiling pan water and your shotgun
I hope magician to constantly bickers and banters with his wife in their voicelines
>>499728629this but also i hope they add voice lines for nashala and mirage bickers and banters with her too
>>499728629I want magician to make fun of wraith
i dont get it, are valvecucks being forced to watch every single game? why is the test mode limited time only
>Ult as Yamato>CLANG CLANG CLANG CLANGWhat the fuck
>Lash attacks me as Magician>Use teleport to dodge his ground strike>Turn him into a frog>rape him with my magic missleHe's a fun character, I won't lie
>>499728793Because they're still gathering data from the more finished heroes and map state and they don't need major population shifts between queues skewing that data just to get more data on shit they're still hammering out the basics of.
>>499728793Concentrating the player base into a small window of time means shorter queue times. They said they are assessing the popularity so I wouldn't be surprised if they expand the window tomorrow. It is kind of weird they started with just two hours, though.
>2 hours of testing new heros>release 400 Mb patch during
>>499728793>we put a test build in your test build!
>>499710486Is everyone who plays this game a former Dota player?Are there even non Dota players who enjoy this game?
>calico's top bar portrait
>>499728982the patch was released after the test period
Do you guys have more pics of the new heroes?
>>499728208She was already boring tho
>>499729081shit i do is it better then dota 2 fuck no but its cool side game to play from time to time
>hoopo implied that viper isn't kaliThis is retarded. She literally has his boomerang
>>499729197You're fucking crazy bounce pad + barrel holliday with punch and air movement was insane.
>spirit/gun split build as wrecker>fly around for awhile to charge my jihad>crash into enemy and shred them down to paste with slowing bullets + barf moveso good
>>499729216If Viper were Kali then she would be hero_kali and not hero_viper.It's not like we got hero_holliday or hero_fathom or hero_calico for this test.Viper's entire kit seems like a placeholder apart from the passive anyway.
>>499728208holliday is a fucking terror i went headshot items, bullet life steal, intensifying mag, fortitude, burst fire, and was nearly unkillable while dealing a shit load of damage with 12/1 kd
i only got to play wrecker>1st ability is just a big ass physics rock that stuns people it hits for a second>2nd ability gives you 150 health for consooming a minion (not instant)>3rd ability is a low range cone that slows barely because it needs to hit multiple at once and does little damage, useless ability>4th ability is gay talons ult copy and pasted
SLORK IS AWESOME BUT HIS ULT FUCKIN SUCKS. Having a non combat ult is just total ass. REwork that pls
>>499729216I told you she's going to be a fucking snakeShe has>acid gun>petrify>slides>scalesand is literally named viper
>>499729547he used to have riki's ult
>>499729649i hope they update her model to look like a snake and not a green fucking crazy frog
>>499729509>2nd ability gives you 150 health for consooming a minion (not instant)That makes me wonder if Wrecker's final model will be a giant minion
>>499729547>1 hp>chased by shiv >ult a wall>he doesn't question me disappearing and goes away
>- McGinnis: Gun spin decay rate improved from 0.65 to 0.25- McGinnis: Mini Turrets cooldown reduced from 24s to 18sAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
>>499729081I played overwatch. I'm still mad that they took my precious wife orisa and turned her into something unrecognizable.
>>499727609>this was just from 12k worth of items
>>499726465No, deny doesn't worth that much, especially after the nerf to deny which makes it harder and less consistent. However, deny is pure psychological warfare. Some players are visible shook after getting denied a few times oand try to retaliate/rectify by BROOLING or try to punch creeps, which allows you to punish them harder. If the players don't get too shook to make mistakes, then you are probably better off getting boxes and statues or farm some free jungle. Damage on tower is very solid now too as the timer approach 8 min mark
>>499729921if you think thats a lot you can get that much under 12 minutes.
>>499727879Better enjoy the ICBM team and buy some spirit resist, boy.
>>499729216>viper and kali will possibly be two separate characters god I fucking hope so cause I was hoping for a Louisiana gator monster hunter hero and not just gun Ivy 2
>>499720382skill issue
slork/fathom better be some twink fish bussy when his model is finished. i don't want some gormless nerd with a skull for a hood
the skill celling for astro is mad fucking high lol
Am I dumb or does Calico's 1 seem like it would be cancer in lane?It's just Abrams shoulder charge but you don't need to commit yourself to any danger because it's a projectile.
>>499730962It doesn't do as much damage as you think it would. It's good but her turrets in their current state are much, much stronger.
>>499729081I'm here from Battleborn
>>499730962Lmao calico in general is broken fun ass kit but those cat turrets is actually might be the most toxic shit i played in the game plus it goes invis who told them to do that icefrog is on coke plus those shit are tanky as shit
>>499730923It's too high, the headshot 3 is a horrible mistake.It ensures she will remain a 40% winrate hero anywhere that's not pro and the absolute highest mmr, anyone that aims amazing with her will just stomp and destroy everything so she will HAVE to be hard nerfed and gutted appropriately and it also puts her in a cuck shed by forcing her to go gun.Her 3 is a horrible, horrible mistake that will forever ruin the hero, it needs to be removed
Heh
>>499730349>possiblydefinitely
>>499730923>filters dota players who can't aim>filters CS players with no sense of moba strategybased design imo
Garden Gnome hero please please please PLEASE!
wrecker might suck but hes still leagues better than mirage
>>499729081I used to play Smite a very long time ago. I played a little Dota but never really got into it. Deadlock actually inspired me to come back to it, but my winrate in that game is awful and my MMR is so low that half my games have two cores in the safe lane.
>astroHer name is Holiday
>>499731034The damage isn't really what concerns me, just the massive pushback.Coordinated players can surely push one guy back with Calico then fuck the other duo laner.
>>499731157>>499730923my friend used to play mccree in overwatch at a very high level so maybe holliday will finally get him to play deadlock instead of blazblue
>>499731308Mirage is a top 5 character right now so wrecker would be top 1 if he is a lot better than mirage
>>499731440oh, yeah. It's hitbox is tiny and it's speed has a curve to it. They'd have to actually all line up to get picked up by it.
>playing as Hollyday versus Seven>he clearly has better movement than me>still winning for free because of passive>he keeps trying to duck and dodge to no avail because his head is huge>he goes all in with his combo and ults me>I'm almost dead>ulti him and bring him to my tower>he even parries the tower but dies anyway>I Tbag him hard>he pauses the gameShe's so ridiculous you guys
>>499729081i never played a dota 2, i'm a tf2 fag
>>499722731Shiv got extremely light nerfs, despite all the text. He's still going to be doing what he does, just 5% as less effective as before
>>499731604>hitbox is tiny and it's speed has a curve to itMaybe not so bad then. Nice to know.
>>499731628teabagging isn't nice.
https://strawpoll.com/BDyNzN2DzyR
shit maybe i was wrong about wrecker
>>499731157Holliday having a skill floor is fine, her being shoehorned into carry roles is the problem. It's not hard to imagine Korean kids on adderall neglecting all of her active abilities and still winning games. It's just too good if you are a top tier player.
>>499731925fake
>>499731925is that PUCCI
>>499731935>Holliday having a skill floor is fineShe already had this with barrels and bounce pads and having a revolver.They just tacked in a weapon carry ability for no fucking reason that will forever fuck it up.You CANNOT have that ability in this fucking game it will cripple her forever.
The super secret hidden tech for holliday, when she isn't bugged, is bounce pad into phantom strike then you headshot and/or setup barrel. When it works you'll get the goomba stomp effect immediately after phantom strike >>499722709It's bugged as hell. Sometimes it works, sometimes it doesn't.
>>499732023>You CANNOT have that ability in this fucking gameWhy not?
>>499731925is his gun still like paradox?since he can stack attack speed with his devour you could probably get some funny builds outside of the ult
>>499732064because he's an aimlet and he doesn't want people to be good with a character because they have good aim (ignore paradox and vindicta tho!)
>>499731531>>499731925
>>499732181>gun called "The Butcher's Hand">shitty little plink gunI really hope they at least change the visuals for that thing, he should have a chunky weapon that looks and sounds like it deals damage
>>499732228this is the same cope that injoker spammers used when he was a free win in pubs. lrn2balance
>>499732337how is invoker in any way related to holliday
>>499732434>erm, he takes SKILL to play so he's NEVER broken, ok?!
>>499731906>75% TF2
crackshot is fine for a passive but is really boring addition to her kit. I'd rather have them replace it with something like a unique passive that gives her back the old goomba stomp and upgrade3 lets her do it manually from normal jumps or something.
>>499719256plapadox looks like THAT?
>>499731906wtf plays tf2 in 2024
>>499732064Because it means the hero will forever be relegated to being dogshit.Like you said, any adderal kids/any giga aimers will destroy everything with her 3 and that 3 alone.It will also be the cheaters pick forever and ever adding even more issues.Her 3 completely decides the hero and it means valve HAS to balance around the 3, nothing else, she will forever be dogshit because she will forever be tied to crackshot and the upper echelon ability to abuse that to the max, she will forever remain a gun headshot hero and she will be forced to be horrible to start playing because she will be balanced solely around it.It's fucking lazy and it shouldn't be in her kit.
>>499732490but anon said that the passive cripples holliday, not that it makes her overpowered
>>499732490You did not say at all how the ability is broken, you specifically brought up her having skill because of her barrels and bounce pads. You flat out say she can't have the passive at allThe reasonable conclusion is that you're mad because her passive requires skill and not because of anything to do with balance.
>>499732583she still has a stomp you just have to land DIRECTLY ontop of their head.
>>499732667Also by dogshit I mean in non 0.01% hands.It would force her to be a pro cage cuck hero and be useless everywhere else.
>>499732667it's literally just an upgraded headhunter, minus the healit's on a massive cooldown, too
>>499732697>have to land DIRECTLY on someone's head when everyone is hyper mobile, has 3-4 dashes with dash jump and air dashes and runs at mach 3 if they're straight up not flying???are they literally fucking retarded?I refuse this is intended this would be the stupidest shit ever
>>499732667>yoshii made another paradoxkekI agree that crackshot is a balance nightmare and putting it on a hero that has nothing that synergizes with it is lame
They should go all in on Viper being the sliding hero and change one of her abilities (probably the knife since it was stolen from Kali) to be a free dash that keeps her in slide state, refreshes the slide duration, and via upgrades gives her bonus ammo/fire rate/bullet damage.
>>499732678i'm not >>499731157, i just think her passive is stupid and badly designed. as it is it's ludicrously OP but it'd be mediocre at best without the AP5 CDR.
>Two characters with passives that deal damage just by shooting at the enemy>New character has passive that requires you to deal a headshot to deal extra damage, with it then having a cooldown>This is bad because....BECAUSE IT JUST IS OKAY!!!!Her old ability was boring as hell. I like the new passive and it makes sense thematically. In fact, I would add onto it to where holliday either deals extra gun damage while jumping off a bounce pad
https://project8.dev/forums/holliday-feedback-private.116/
>>499732898Headhunter is a 3.5k souls item and it doesn't slow, getting that in lane is retarded.Crackshot cooldown is also reduced by headshots, exacerbating the problem and shoehorning her EVEN MORE into a headshot bot, again, if you can near always click heads she becomes a completely different hero.It's near impossible to balance, it just shouldn't be on her kit.
the new visuals make Geist look like SEX SEX SEX MATING PRESS PLAP PLAP PLAP PLAP
TIME WALL DOESN'T BLOCK NIGGERFERNUS FIRE CATALYSTLMAO
>>499732970just make it so that you get the bebop uppercut effect where the area you land on gets damage dealt and slows
PLEASE FOR THE LOVE OF FUCK DON'T PUT IVY AND DYNAMO ON THE SAME SIDE. IF THERE WERE DRAFTS NO NIGGER IN THEIR RIGHT MIND WOULD DRAFT THAT SHIT.
So leech got buffed?BASED
>>499733274>getting that in lane is retarded.agreed, it's going to make her a nightmare lane bully and they should lower the level 1 stats on it for surei don't think it's some inherently broken ability though>Crackshot cooldown is also reduced by headshotsonly at max level>shoehorning her EVEN MORE into a headshot botso this ultimately just comes down to you not being very good at headshots
>>499733242>He thinks devs listen to feedbacklmao they literally fucking nerfed yamato when she was bottom 3 as me and at least a dozen others are fucking screaming at them to rework the ult alreadyin fact reworking the ult feels like it's the only option
>>499733406it's a must pick on the cd heavy characters like giest and shit. I'm buying in on abrams first instead of unstoppable now.
>>499732023I agreeNot only its boring design of "here, have alternative gun build with overtuned passive"It just takes away from rest of her kitI have idea, let us lassooo ult the barrelWhich refunds 75% of ult cd as a t2 talentCombo would bePlace barrelLasso it, Jumppad on someones head for combined damage of one trillion
>>499733380>IF THERE WERE DRAFTS NO NIGGER IN THEIR RIGHT MIND WOULD DRAFT THAT SHIT.they synergize really well though
idk if it's just me but i don't like the orange lighting the map has now
>>499732667I kind of agree with you, it's a bot-magnet ability that's going to make or break her and something they will have to constantly keep in mind while changing her.every other "big burst" ability has some kind of wind-up or warning, Vindicta has to actually charge her ult bullet and you get a warning what's about to happen and Grey Talon gives you a big flash when you're about to get chunked by his 1, even Lash requires you to telegraph that he's about to 1 on top of someone because it requires height and most of the time his grapple is loud and announces his presence if he doesn't do it for everyone else first. Any kind of "click their head to oneshot" ability with zero prep of any kind in a game with movement like this is going to attract the absolute worst faggots on top of being a shit ability that encourages that kind of gameplay anyway
Gun ivy is pretty fucking good right now
>>499733604way too dark.
MAN I HATE AFK JUNGLERS THAT LET WALKERS DIEUNBELIEVABLE HOW SELFISH AND BAD PEOPLE ARE
>>499733410>and they should lower the level 1 stats on it for sure>i don't think it's some inherently broken ability thoughThe problem arises from valve having to hard focus on her 3, it's always gonna be either the most oppressive shit ever in the right hands or feel like dogshit, and eventually it will be nerfed and reworked to a level that it will only benefit the 0.01%.>so this ultimately just comes down to you not being very good at headshotsI'm not amazing at them but it seems you have no idea how overbearing a player with godlike aim can be when given the tools to exploit that to the max.Unlike headshot booster it also IGNORES damage range fall off so she can straight up shoot you once for 250-500 damage FROM ANY POINT IN THE MAP.And combined with headshot booster it deals disgusting amounts of damage.Look at this damage at this range with ONLY headshot booster, all off a singular headshot.Add stuff like mystic shot and BRS and she very quickly starts doing 500-800 damage burst off a singular headshot + barrels + CC ult.And add the rest of her kit (which also enables headshots as barrel explosion is a knock up).It's a text book case of balancing nightmare.
>>499734162>Unlike headshot booster it also IGNORES damage range fall offwhat the fuck? that has to be an oversight
>>499734441nope
>>499734441It has a cooldown
>>499734567She kind of seems like just a slightly different Mirage.
>>499734567yea thats fuckin sweet but i will hate to be against someone with it
>>499734680Mirage's 3 isn't a burst. You have to let him shoot you continuously for several seconds for it to do more than tickle.
>>499734774Okay but it also does way more damage
>>499734567>100 damage at level 1>get into lane>holiday clicks you once>lose 1/5th your hplollmao
>>499734827stfu retard it does not
>>499734963it do tho
>>499734853also can't waste the cooldown by landing an accidental body shot or hitting a trooper
Tell me, is Slork even half as much of a slippery bullshit that Slark is? Escaping at 100 HP to 'see you in 5 seconds brebear uranus'? His passive is a placeholder, but I don't (fully) expect him to get a full on dark pact in the context of deadlock (the salt will be endless then, making even the OG Shiv feel like nothing).
>>499735091slork is fundamentally broken rn because when he hits max level, with 0 items. he does more damage than any single character in the game by about 50 dps.
okay anon was right holliday's passive is broken and needs to be removed
I managed to play everyone except Sork and Holliday. I can't tell for slork if bloodletting is the placeholder or if they're gonna take it from shiv for a rework. >WreckerStupid strong gun in lane. If you land headshots you win. Definitely meant to farm up in the jungle/split and get shot speed up then fly into fights.>CalicniggerI thought she was okay. She can place way too many cat wards. Seems to be more for locking down areas. I guess you're supposed to place them, get behind someone invis, punch them, cat throw them in and win. Very tanky with the heals, better at melee than Abrams>MagicianI thought he was really good. Did the magic missile nuke build + mystic shot. People just die. Swapping with assistant is OP + hex is too good>SlitherHate this bitch, fingers fucking hurt trying to slide constantly. Gun sucks dick and you have to be right up on their dick. I did well, but not for me.Holliday seems weak too except for lasso.
>>499734827Mirage doesn't do 170 fucking damage off a singular shot lmao.This also doesn't go on cooldown until you hit the headshot so you can literally just shoot like a monkey.Imagine playing mo n krill against this shit, this ability is a mistake.Level 1 infernus loses a third of his health to this, 3 is not upgraded and there's no items, it's just a level 1 minute 0 headshot with crackshot.Imagine a Yamato power slash but it's instant and doesn't go on cooldown until it hits you.
>>499735306mo would be okay since he got his 20% headshot resistance
>>499734853>1/5More like half mate
>>499735303Holliday right now is incredibly fucking bugged and her second ability might as well not exist but her 3 is so fucking broken and game ruining it doesn't matter as long as you build around it.
>>499735046a few creep wave later holiday gets headshot booster and the level 2 upgrade and now clicks on your head for 1/3rd your hpthis is on the same patch the nerfed medic trooper healing btw
I played 2 holliday matches and trust me you dont want that passive in your gameIts straight up overtuned horseshit also boring and it will shoehorn every "good" holliday player into building around it and ignoring rest of her kit
>>499735425I didn't lane against her but outside of lane she was shit in my 4 games aside from lasso.
>>499735443Level 2 crackshot + 500 souls headshot booster does almost 300 damage lmao.It's such a retarded ability.
>>499735306It's 100 damage + 1x spiritvs 96 damage + 4.8x spirit>>499735443Every hero in the game can get headshot booster.
>>499735443BUT DOES EVERYONE HAVE THE COWGIRLS 3 DUMBASSFUCKING THINK
>>499735663>Every hero in the game can get headshot booster.My yamato with 5 points on 2 so I can get the weapon damage does 150 damage with headshot booster.It does 97 without the 2.Holliday with 2 points on crackshot does 270 damage with headshot booster (but also can deal it from any range)Are you seriously telling me these are on equal terms
>>499735798fuck i feel like a retardthis was for >>499735663
>yamato nerfed againKEEEEEEEEEEEEEK she's literally the worst hero in the game right now.
>>499735798>>499735902But the Cowgirl's 3 has nothing to do with Headshot Booster. Headshot Booster does the same thing for every character. She gets +100 damage, that's it, it doesn't get ENHANCED by headshot items. Anyone can get headshot items.>(but also can deal it from any range)No she can't, only 100 of the damage is range-independent. It's a skill with a 20 second cooldown that does 100 damage. That's it. That's the entire thing. Viscous has the exact same skill but AoE and with a 2x spirit multiplier.
>>499736075paradox exists
>>499736075>>499736257That’s bebop
>Can only play the new heroes 2 hours a day AND it overlaps with ranked timeYoshi this is retarded dont be a stupid nigger
>>499736257Paradox is better.
>>499736128No shit, but it's about benefiting the most out of the headshot which you're gonna do.It's like saying all spirit characters do spirit damage so x character doesn't get more out of items like reverb.
>escalating exposure went from being the best spirit item to a grief itemFucking yoshi
>>499736257>paradoxlolMeanwhile paradox gets giga buffed and yamato gets nerfed Yamato is genuinely gonna hit like 43% winrate, all the yamato players are losing their shit over yoshi nerfing an already shit hero.
>>499736257she just got massively buffed and can now do this>>499720448
>>499736534Everyone wants to shoot heads. There's no character in the game who does more damage by shooting the body.
>>499736647it's not worth it anymore i just buy mystic vulnerability if they're stacking spirit resist and leave it at that
>>499736647>Also hard nerfed reverb so now spirit tier 4 is garbage>And it doesn't matter because Shiv is STILL retarded strong these devs need to be hanged
>>499736647you don't get it bro we have to cripple every spirit hero in the game to compensate for the fact that shiv exists
>>499736853so WHY the fuck did they hard nerf exposure twice instead of just, you know, fucking gutting Shiv like they had to?
>>499736728Yes, but some characters shoot heads better than others and when you got a fuck huge burst that can be lined up with other burst items that all proc off the same activator it's a no brainer.Come on man this isn't hard.
>>499736647>nerf spirit items>T4 spirit filled with garbage nowi guess everyone is going to grab siphon life now?
LMFAO??????
How do I test the heroes in practice mode so I can be ready when queue opens for aussies in 4 hrs
spiritual overflow is a better spirit T4 than the actual spirit T4s
>>499736647How is the 1% per stack making that huge of a difference that it's in the trash?
>>499737380Literally all he had to do was stand behind the fucking wall
>>499737278>Come on man this isn't hard.It's not hard because it's wrong. Mystic Burst is the exact same idea and nobody fucking complains about Viscous buying that.
Urn system is so stupid>Slightly ahead of enemy>Urn position is completely fucked for my team for the next few min>Team is even now>Enemy just get urn for free because delivery site is in their base and get way aheadIf they keep this urn set up, urn position needs to update more frequently
>>499737486because it's per stack. So the bonus that went from 120% spirit dmg at max stacks went to 100% last update to now only +80% spirit damage at max stacks.
shiv is so weak now bros it's not fair why so harsh he wasnt even that good if people had 2 braincells to kite you
>>499737380>threw as hard as he possibly could>STILL could have won with the divine barrierUhhhhhhhh I thought paradox was shit????
How do I play with the new heroes against bots? Creating a custom server with cheats enabled is not working...
>>499737660Crushed his jungle ability with the rage changes again. They can't make up their mind if shiv should be allowed to farm or not.
>>499737486Heroes that synergize with EE can easily rack up stacks, realistically it's at least ~15% less spirit damage late game. That is huge.
>>499737709SORRY CHUD!!! 9-11 PM ONLY!!!!!!!
>4th update tonightSTOP
did my ranked matches this week but idk what kind of rank i'm gonna get if i still can't win a matchi thought ranked tried to get you to 50:50 but i keep losing my matches
>>499737887this dev team is so retarded holy shit
This game was an enigma. We were always super ahead on kills, but we just kept losing objectives. Almost actually lost the game, but minions KILLED the enemy patron while they were in our base trying to melt ours.
>>499738181look at the soul countalmost dead evenkills dont mean much of anything if you cant capitalize on objectives either
>>499736075Why do they keep nerfing her anywaysI never see anybody accomplish anything as her that somebody else doesn't do better
>>499737958>it's another 400mb update with no notes
>>499737283Just buy Boundless Spirit bro
>>499738513Devs are fucking retarded.She's not even picked that much in pro and she loses very very often and when she does win she's not the main factor.At this point there's only two options>1) She will be completely reworked when they release the new model, until then they're just throwing out whatever who cares>2) Yoshi got ass fucked by a yamato player 3 months ago and is still salty
There's gotta be a way to fix escalating exposure to make it good without just being broken on shiv and flamenigger
>>499738678JUST HARD NERF THOSE TWOHOLY SHIT
>>499737709pretty sure you can just use console commands in private bot matches
>>499738678shiv and tardfurnus get 80% reduced self heal on flame and bleed stacks
>>499738678How about we.... nerf shiv and nigfernus???
>>499736647I told you guys spirit was getting nerfed last night
We should call him firefloyd
- Improved Burst: Max HP Damage increased from 7% to 9%- Improved Burst: Threshold damage increased from 125 to 200yamato niggas we are SO BACK
>nerfed Majestic Leap instead of nerfing Warden and Lashwhat are they doing lol
>>499731180What if... YOU REPLACED THE URN WITH A GNOME?
>>499739267>- Improved Burst: Threshold damage increased from 125 to 200anon that's a nerf, means it will pretty much never proc off stuff like mystic shotThe HP damage is nice but yamato caught 3 different nerfs this patch when she was already fucking dogshit
>>499739305why would you want to nerf warden tho?he's the most honest hero in the game
>>499720448>Spending 24900 so you can do 150 damage per pulse in a bigger Aoe that you can still dash away from...
>>499739428thats a joke since those 2 are the heros who make huge use out of leap
>>499739421nah fuck that i WILL power slash niggas and i WILL enjoy it
>>499738678Escalating Exposure adds very little damage to Infernus when you separate the 6200 item from the 1250 Mystic Vulnerability. Legitimately Siphon Bullets is a bigger DPS increase than EE and AFAIK Siphon Bullets doesn't even work with any source of damage amp so it goes without the 40% Napalm amp that EE *does* work with.Not sure what the better 6200 items for Infernus would be but Crippling Headshot or something would certainly be a better buy.
>>499739267Does anyone other than Lash and Yamato deal >200 damage
>>499739305I knew majestic leap was getting nerfed, originally the dive-jump tech with Leap was getting removed too but I was able to convince Yoshi to keep itI'd much rather a longer cooldown than the dive jump be removed, that one part of leap is really important for engages
>>499739821giest can with grenade
>>499739849Dive jump kinda got killed though. You can no longer dive when someone hits you mid-air.
>geist got away with a slap on the wrist>infernig tiny nerf to burn damage reduction>majestic leap gutted so warden is now shelvedLMAO i am so fucking back bros
>>499739914>9% max health damage every 6 seconds from 10 million miles awayBalanced hero
>>499739941is this porn?it looks like porn
>>499739821with malice stacks geist can easily proc it with mystic shot and grenade still
Does mystic vulnerability apply the spirit resist reduction before it applies the damage?
>infernape is allowed to be a lane bully hyper scaler teamfight skirmish rejuv stealer farmer drain tank for another patch while shit like viscous get meaningfully hit every patch
>>499740160yeah icefrog must play infernus cause he is literally so fucking strong every patch and never touched
Pocket bros what's our go-to now to land balls? Magic carpet required for positioning now or something?
Ranked deadlock is over, time to play with mental asylum dota 2 players that grief every game
>prepared for the worst>it was literally nothingburger nerfs with one exception>warden is now useless but it was a funny build for a single patch
>>499740160>lane bullyI love hating infernus too but this is wood mmr cope.
>>499739940I'm aware but its not the end of the worldIts mainly about engaging with it, not escaping necessarilyYou can engage pretty reliably without being shot when you're positioning wellThe point is, you don't need all the height from leap, you want the horizontal speed, so as long as you dive early and jump-boost, you have that horizontal speed you need to catch people w/ Singularity. If you get shot in the air by that point, doesn't matter, you've got the trajectory and speed you need to engage with.
>>499736647good, cringe item for faggots
>>499740436He's a good lane bully in duo lanes where he can just sit off to the side and focus on generating afterburn, but he is terrible in a solo lane.
It's so obvious the devs have a love/hate boner for some heroes.
Childhood is thinking that aim demons will gravitate towards clicking one head on astro every minute.Growing up is realizing that aim demons will gravitate towards deleting people in just one slide with burst fire viper.
>Lash got no changes at allMost balanced God there is.>All the items I have in my build buffed>Majestic Leap nerfed (meaning as Lash, I'm the God of ganks again)Based.I didn't rely on that clutch shit and thankfully stopped using it in favor of the now buffed Superior Stamina.>Added kick animation for LashBASED BASED BASEDGET DEATH SLAMMED NIGGERS
Icefrog seemed to have an easier time balancing 90+ dota heroes at a time than just 20ish deadlock heroes.
How do I gun Ivy
>>499740664https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n2K-rmwyQ3o
>>499740335I'm still using Majestic Leap though I pair it with Increased Cooldown for 38s, +12s to what it used to be. I tried warp stone for a couple of games, it works too just not as good as leap.
>>499740701step 0 is picking viper
>>499740701wait for viper to release, or just play haze.>>499740695icefraud hasn't worked on dota since 2018.
>STOP BUYING IMPROVED BURST!!>YOU WILL BUY TITANIC MAG!!>EVERY ITEM WILL BE REBALANCED UNTIL THEY HAVE THE SAME PURCHASE RATE ACROSS MATCHES!!
>>499740701QRS, tesla bullets, bullet resist shredder, titanic magazine. Sprinkle in whatever other garbage you like especially stuff that gives fire rate.
>>499740915>icefraud hasn't worked on dota since 2018Which is why I said 90+ you fucking retard
>>499740930improved burst just got buffed
>>499740695I've wrote a detailed post about why that's the case, but basically the items and abilities and shooter style will never ever work together. It's like league of legends items with a dota 2 economy and map style it just doesnt work. They nerfed majestic leap because jumping people was too easy and fast, but it doesnt fix the problem.
Instead of a built-in headshot booster Holiday should mark enemies in her vicinity and when she shoots them the mark pops and amplifies her damage
Okay, is it me or urn is completely broken right now??????Patch note said that urn comeback mechanic is supposed to only kick in at 8% lead or behind. It seems way less than that. Is it determined on urn spawn??? Or the first time urn is picked up?????? I straight up just lose/win game due to favorable/unfavorable urn spawns that basically swing an almost even match to a sudden 5k-10k lead out of nowhere due to urn spawn. The current soul difference is way way way too small for urn come back mechanic to kick in. It should be 15-20% MINIMUM.
>>499740986the icefraud you "knew" is long gone.
>>499740870Yeah but what do you do now when you get hit throwing your balls out? Just seems bad now specifically for pocket.
here is your forced 50 agent for this game, say something nice about him
>>499740664lash never needed majestic leap anyway it's a crutch item for pisslow we're eating good schmovementGODS
>>499741118I've had games where we were clearly behind in every metric except soul count and the urn drop spot spawned on the enemy's side of the map lmao
>>499710486>BUTCHERED Majestic LeapFor what purpose? It's not like you can use it in combat. This is now barely worth getting on anyone except maybe lash and pocket
>>499741118Just reading the urn changes were mindboggling. Pants on hand retarded bullshit
>>499741113>instead of (fun thing that rewards aim and fits thematically with a cracked gunslinger), Holiday should get (boring thing for shitters to feel good about).
ANOTHERUPDATE
>>499741201warden ult abuse
>>499740664Actually I'm fucking glad majestic leap is gone now because that's 3000 more souls I can spend on big damage
>>499741201It makes senseIts my favorite item in the game but its issue is how well you can defend, push, roam, engage, etc with itIts insanely multi-purpose and the lack of cooldown made you almost omnipresent on the mapI loved it because I could engage really well with it, fortunately I still can because I begged on my hands and knees for the dive-jump to not be removed
>>499741201No idea. Basically pocket/lash would always buy it, then warden meme build. Other than that it was a decent buy or good buy on other heroes only if you went for certain builds. Now no point in doing any majestic leap centered build. Like the geist majestic leap to suck build. Or seven majestic leap ult
wait what the fuck they removed the heavy punch tech from flying strikeAIIIIEEEEEEE
>>499741257I thought it would be a slight shift. It's straight up ball deep in enemy territory and borderline impossible to deliver on a fairly even match. I have no idea at what point does the game judge whether you are ahead or behind neither. I seem to pick up many urns that for some reason determine that my team is "behind" when we were in fact already slightly ahead and we just get a free urn for a huge boost of soul for free. Last time, my team played like ass but for some reason, got gifted 2 consecutive "comeback" urn when we were almost dead even so we just get a huge soul lead off it.
>>499741313Exactly. There's now a ton of Spirit % Reduction scattered across items instead of Gun Reduction, so I think a hybrid gun / spirit is the GOAT for Lash now. Which is how I've been playing anyway.
I know the Magician's story is full of typos but I really like these lines in particular>When an on stage accident claimed both their lives, no one was sure to blame. >Henry claims Savannah was out of position. Savannah says Henry didn't wait for his [cue].Fun way to immediately convey they're ghosts. The first one says they died horribly but the next sentence is talking about how they themselves reacted to their deaths. I dunno I've missed valve's dumb writing like this.
>>499741618its really reassuring, it feels like tf2 all over again but with a different aestheticI agree that I adore their writing, and its everywhere in this game, theres a good balance of serious, sad, and funny writing
so do we have to go gun ivy now
>>499741172 All in combos where you dive jump early and use the momentum for barrage or dive jump affliction still works perfectly. I rarely used leap for barrage poking, I use zip and rooftops for that.
>>499741312>abuse>make 2 second telegraphed ult less telegraphednext you'll say dynamo shouldnt be allowed to buy gap closers because his ult is busted
>>499741706She hardly changed.
>>499741761muh waveclear
>>499741745it was a joke
>play with friend>he wants to gank side lane constantly>have to 2v1 entire early game>"dude why you don't have farm"...
>>499741946Ivy faggot kys
>>499741518yeah sucks man I used to counter all yamatos easy with parries and now I can't
I was wondering why I was having more fun playing deadlock recently even with buffed shiv. It's because both flying fags were in the gutter. Flight makes this game shit. Having both vindicta and gay talon being strong fucking sucks. Buying knockdown blows. And even when you do vindicta just jumps up again or grey talon is fast again now so he just runs away so you need a slowing hex. Even then this shit just fucking sucks. Moving around, jumping, dashing and brawling is fun. Hiding in buildings or doing 1vs1 dps checks in the open isn't fun.
i like the new mega expanding grenades on paradox actually made me play her for the first time
I'm glad heya hoya is fun now, he feels just right
Dear Icefrog, Viper's design, Sex. But, missing two big features.Please see attachment for more information.https://files.catbox.moe/12bq5y.png
>>499742087Finally aimlets can play paradox.
>>499740130no. it's significantly better for things like scrotum's balls than lash's ground strike
>>499742064vindicta dps now is like pre-nerf gun kelvin just chunking health bars, except now with a hitscane execute i fucking hate it. death to all sniper classes in all games ever
>>499742087If you build for it it becomes the second worst made ability in the game and if you don't it's the worst. Contender is Kelvin's. Flask, kudzu, and geist bomb are way way better.
Do I build Chief Prepping Bull spirit or gun?
>>499741618I like how his gun shoots cards
>>499742254building for maximum grenade size and echo shard lets you suffocate the enemy team in any team fight and the stacking, almost unavoidable, damage amp is just the cherry on top
>>499742238Increased assassinate bullet size too so aimlets can now hit you like a pre-patch shiv knife. Always absolutely retarded to be able to die with 1k health from a vindicta body shot. Now it's even easier.Hate flying niggers.
>>499742334I don't it looks retarded as fuck.He should just throw cards stylishly.
>knockdown and decay have a mini animation which makes them clunky as fuck to use compared to all the other active purpleswhat the fuck is this dogshit it breaks my yamato combo and i need knockdown for the overbuffed vindicta nigger
Mo and krill ult should drag an enemy into a special room that's a tiny underground bunker where they're forced to 1v1 them
lmao yall can have the game for the next 2 week people here that are newer to the game dont understand you dont want to have a vindicta meta and or talon all your games are going to be a pain to play
R*dit whiners won, shiv is gutted...Who is OP now
>>499742441That was a joke. Please laugh.
>>499742137Trust the plan
>>499742678vindicta talon mirage
>>499710486i just got a 9 killstreak with this build. id: 24663685you're welcome
Replace McGinnis's ultimate with a jetpack
>>499742678infernus is still a carry+tank nerfs did nothing
>>499742770>heres the entire shop
>>499742753>>499742915>having to aimWell I guess I'll just go play dota then
>>499742983if you aren't filling every slot in lane, you're an idiot.
fuck the sniper characters and fuck every retard who wanted them buffed snipers belong in a pit
>>499743035wood
>>499742770if youre build as more than 15 items listed it's fucking trash
>>499743145take remedial english lessons before posting on an english language board again.
>>499743184But it's my only language
>>499742770just buy all items why dont you
>>499743337i suggest learning how to use the sell button
>>499742770>16 item slots>build contains 40 itemsGee very helpful
>>499743365>waste moneyhow about no
>Abrams: Melee attack rate reduced by 15% (time between attacks)Yoshi you fucking nigger just why
>>499743524it makes no difference, the bigger nerf is the addition of melee defence on a few items.
>>499742487>Need knock down against Vindicta as YamatoNigga just flying strike and fly up there with her wtf are you doing
Is it too late to inhosue?I got home from work late..
>>499739513you forget the damage amp, you're actually spending all those souls to do up to 3000 damage, and even if you say "I would simply move out of the aoe that expands to the size of a city block you also forgot it has movement slow
>>499743552That goes without saying, but attack rate reduction is just adding insult to injury
>>499743445sounds like a poor problem. try pushing the lanes next time.
Fuck I lost both of my solo gamesAt least I was trying out new characters hahaha...
>>499743586Most NAbros are asleep.
Probably an extreme hot take but I fucking hate gun builds and gun-centric characters.Spirit is fun because it differentiates characters and its all about their abilities.Gun is just click and hold. Gun based characters like Haze and Wraith are niggers to play against and generally unfun.I know this will get accusations of wood tier mmr and whatever but spirit characters are so much more FUN
As a mirage player, they really didnt need to buff mirage.Now its just unfair.
>>499743801t. aimlet
>>499743740where the EU inhouse at
>>499743801Agree 100%I haven't even played haze once yet
>>499743801play dota then lmao
>No Dynamo nerfsvery happyFirst time in a very long time Dynamo wasn't touched
>>499742329spirit, since building spirit also gives gun damage and you just need to buy burstfire to hit big DPS
what the fuck is an "inhouse"
>>499743840Kinda yea but his playstyle is not fancy enough for people be aware of how broken he is
Item ideaExplosive fist50% bonus melee damage, whatever fucking second cooldownOn activation also hurts you for the same amount
>>499743801lol
>>499736647>"muh must buy for damage" spirit items getting turned to shit>majestic leap turned to shithmmmmm magic carpet lookin pretty fly now huh faggots
>>499744173But I played Mo and krill and used to solo kill people with magic carpet combo, but with EE being nerfed hard twice he can't solo ult kill for shit anymore
>>499743881EU inhouses suck
>>499715528You can play as the test heroes in custom matches?
>>499743568the nigga buys eshift in my games and unfortunately i cant anime battle in the sky for that long
>>499744173Majestic leap is still fine you fucking faggots, a higher cooldown on it isn't the end of the world, its a situational item and the point of the change is to make you think about using it more instead of just jumping to the next jungle camp/lane every 8 secondsIt's still very good
I do enjoy a spot of bullying
>>499744382>archonyikes
>>499744442yyyep.anything lower is trash territory, anything higher is no-lifer territory. just right.
>>499742441he's 100% going to throw them.
Jacob Lash was raped during the hot summer of '42
>>499744329Just as I was thinking about maybe trying it on Lash, they double the cooldown and I feel vindicated for never buying it on him.
Mirage and Yamato deal RETARDED early game damage
>>499743801>>499743890Why are aimlets more and more comfortable with spitting out some of the most low IQ takes known to man?
>>499729081>Are there even non Dota players who enjoy this game?Me. I didn't even know what a MOBA was before playing Deadlock. I've heard the term, but didn't know the definition.
>>499744769I'm a higher rank than you though
Does anyone have a visual of what the heavy melee damage aoe looks like? They need outright remove this stupid shit from the game
>holliday shoots logs the size of release mirage
>>499744770>I didn't even know what a MOBA was before playing Deadlock.Genuine question: how old are you?
>>499744991Old enough to fuck your mom
>>499713234Compfags ruin everything.....sad!
>>49974499122
How do you win vs McGaynnis in 1v1 lane if you're not a long range character?
>>499745145Fight her at short range
>>499744859You wouldn't be seething about gun build if you were above alchie.
>>499739709>was never subject to leapginnisenviable
>>499745189cope
this holliday kit is actually schizophrenic but having batrider ulti will make this 100% pick ban
lets just give talon spirit scaling on everything! that'll solve all of his issues! god fuck this game im tried of these dragon ball flying fights it's so aids just do away with the bullshit flying nukes in the air once again a single character just ruins the fun of everything
>>499745172>gets killed by turrets and escape is walled out while she unloads 200 bullets on you
>>499745305cope faggot
>>499745320Bro, your abilities...
>>499745269building spirit is already the ultimate cope, but go on lil bro.
>>499744885the devs lowkey know heavy melee is a problem they're just hesitant to admit it because they got some aimlets in charge who are in love with "heavy melee is just better" concept. they've been churning out unique heavy melee animations and everything but this last patch had ever so slight buffs to parry and nerfs to melee items and even some directed nerfs to certain characters using heavy melee.But they'll never unplug their head from their own assholes to actually remove heavy melee even though they shouldthe game will go the way of dota 2 and become a hate island where not even the dotards/deadtards who literally don't know of anything other than their game, hate their own gamenay-away gimme some clapping geist butt cheeks
>>499745393>no uweak shit
>>499745386They are short range too.
>>499743801yeah if i wanted to aim i'd play cs2, the aimers are just there for autists notice how they all have to farm jungle too
>>499745305He was fine two patches ago. Imo he was sleeper OP.Then they crippled him for some retarded buffs.Then it was shit so two weeks later they left the buffs and reverted almost everything else.Now we have a monster.they literally make things worse patch by patch it's disgusting.
>>499744329ok but is the nerf to the dive really necessary though
the paper walkers is a mcginnis buff
>>499745464Why do I still hear fucking complaining about melee and heavy melee? Just fucking parry. It's a fun mechanic, it's involved, parrying someone feels amazing. It provides a higher skill ceiling and fights are a lot more involved this way, there's more decisions to make. It's healthy game design.I can't take anyone complaining about melee seriously when you can just parry, I've learned to parry multiple people in a row and the dopamine hit after that shit is unreal
>>499745618every change to objectives is a mcginnis buffeven if they make the objectives harder to kill it will still somehow make mcginnis, specifically, better at killing them
>>499745614it adds a counterplay to leap besides "get your own"
>>499745684i can 1 mag guardians and shrines easy now. it rocks
The map and overall game looks so much goddamn better now I can't believe itI hope we get map skins, I'd love a dark/halloween themed one
>>499745840the map should be dark during Halloween and full moons, kinda like tf2
>>499745675>Just fucking parry.There's no counterplay if they cancel melee
>>499745393it's okay cowadoody bro, you'll get your free wins when holliday drops in real games
>>499745898Yes there is, roll away or punish them for faking out>b-but I don't usually plan for thatthen start planning for it, that's the nature of these games
>>499745464>remove heavy melee even though they shouldskill issue
>>499745393real talkis there any hero where spirit builds are better than gun buildsi can't think of a single one
>>499746085infernus
Icefraud strikes again with his retarded "patchwork solution" design.Before release this game will turn into another Dota 2 where you had countless changes such ass:>when the game is 12:43 minutes in, if you rotate your character left 200 degrees, you will get a 10% soul gain debuff because our research showed up this is how every character with soul advantage behaves on averageAnd then people like Dotaniggers will brag how "complex" and "hard" their game is compared to say, League, when the reality is that it's hard because you have to learn thousands of those retarded edge cases that accumulated over 10 fucking years.
>>499745991>punish them for faking outyou act as if it's possible to react to them faking out
>>499745464they should just make it a bit shorter but I can see that your attitude is way to far gone for any reasonable discussion
>>499745675The problem with melee isn't the design, it's the implementation. It's only fun when you and your lane oppo have the same ping.
>>499746085if you build gun on lash you're trollingif you build gun on yamato you're griefing
>>499746139didn't read kys lolbab
>>499746139The urn is fundamentally fucked. Expect it to have billion tiny quirks like that before the game is out because Valve are hacks and unlike Riot, are unwilling to rethink entire mechanics or even axe them completely if they aren't fun or are janky.
>>499746208lash is better with ricochetyamato is better with crippling headshotspirit builds are objectively inferior to gun builds on every hero if you know how to aim, skills are worthless only guns do damage
>>499746171Dude I can quantum-save my allies being Bebop hooked, the faster you can react to things, the betterhttps://files.catbox.moe/hq1huj.webm
>>499746085Every single hero not named Haze.
Evasion/Dodge mechanic is retarded and shouldn't exist. This isn't a fucking top down game with limited movement. You are literally playing mirror's edge on steroids here and can PHYSICALLY move out of the way of many skills.
>>499745991>roll away from heavy melee with a lane sized conewood MMR detected
>cancels melee 0.1 seconds before hitting youjust parry brojust react
>>499743861>>499743920>>499744769>Not a SINGLE refutation of his pointWhen people resort to banal name calling, that is how I know someone is right.>>499743801So who is fun then?
>>499746301Haven't they redesigned neutral items multiple times since adding them to dota?
>>499746139I'm just waiting for Riot's new big game at this point. Valve is hopeless.
>>499746340>only guns do damageAnd just like that you have outed yourself as even lower MMR than the aimlet.
>>499746495Replying to yourself is embarrassing.
I just had my first cheater game. Game is in early dev and there are already cheaters. When the game releases I don't even wanna see the cheater ratio.
Someone post the new heros.
>>499746301You will eat the void grubs.You will play the newly reworked jungle role at gunpoint.You will play the latest AIslop designed jungler.You will own nothing.And you will be happy.
I hate fast niggers that are running away constantly, Infernus is the most bitch character
>>499746590It's easier to cheat early, anon.Also there have been cheaters for months now. The fact you just ran into your first one means there probably aren't that many.
>>499746139>And then people like Dotaniggers will brag how "complex" and "hard" their game is compared to say, League, when the reality is that it's hard because you have to learn thousands of those retarded edge cases that accumulated over 10 fucking years.I love it when retards say shit like this when in reality, the last 5 or so years of Dota's development have been dedicated to stripping everything remotely interesting or nuanced about the game and replacing it with pointless gimmicks. The current state of the game is terrible because it's trying to be League.
If you bring up steam overlay while your selected heroes are cycling, they all stack ontop of eachother.
>>499746495the refutation is that abilities are even less interesting because you don't even need good aim to use them.
Honestly at this point only esports tryhards are hyped about this game. Nobody has time to dedicate 10000 hours into any game nowadays unless you don't value your life.
>>499745991>punish them>parry ends AFTER they canceled melee>heavy melee hits you even if you roll awayHmmm...nice being disingenuous
>>499746301they literally ruined the game with shrines and then removed them because nobody liked that shityou are full of shit
>>499745898>>499746918You have to read it. If you're severely autistic and lack theory of mind, this might be impossible. However, for normal people, it's easy.
>>499746918works on my machinekeep in mind I've got 500+ hours so I'm really used to shit thoughI don't think there's a problem at all with melee, its just another form of damageReally if you don't want to worry about this shit, don't let people get close to you to begin with if you're that bothered by it
>>499747039>>499746469
>>499746849>Nobody has timemost young men are doing fuck all with their life right now because the game is rigged so may aswell play video games
>>499747058I said you have to read it, not react. Are you illiterate?Go play some Street Fighter and then try again.
>>499746540spirit is worthlessanyone who builds any spirit items doesn't know how to play the gamename one hero where you would rather spend 500 on mystic reach instead of monster roundsname one hero where you would rather spend 3000 on mystic slow instead of toxic bulletsyellow gun items are strictly superior to spirit items
>>499746991>and then removed them because nobody liked that shitwasn't that like 4 years later
>>499745675Play a couple hundred more hours Melee attacks are the most inconsistent retarded shit in the game
Every single female hero should have an HP stacking mechanic that also increases their size.
>>499747143Wrong, talon exists. Anything else?
>>499747084Young men want instant gratification. They move from games to games, and when they're bored or can't advance due to "rigged matchmaking", they just move on to the next hot thing. Games like Deadlock require patience and dedication.
>>4997472152 years but yeah it took longer than it should have
>>499747246I'm pushing 600 hours anon, I've played since MayI know what I'm talking about
>>499746139And that's why League is killing itself and porn and sexy anime girls are the only things sustaining it (proof: your image)
You have to be beyond retarded if you think heavy Melee isnt fucked
>>499747143Didn't ask, Oracle 1.
>>499747143>name one hero where you would rather spend 500 on mystic reach instead of monster roundsgeistbebop>name one hero where you would rather spend 3000 on mystic slow instead of toxic bulletsparadoxi didn't think very hard
>>499747143geist
>>499747127>read itin other words, literally guess
do any of you do anything besides complaining and gooning
>>499747354It's fucked in the MMR brackets where no one parries.
>>499747423what's gooning
>>499747143Brown alchemist IV hands typed this post.
Whats the counterplay against Wraith?Such a skilless character with zero player expressioon
>>499747127bro throw loops arent real just make the read
>>499747143
>>499747505reactive barrier then later metal skin (she starts yelling for a full second before lifting your ass)
>>499747481It's when you edge for several hours. Supposedly this induces an altered state of consciousness. To put it another way, it's edging for so long that you become temporarily retarded.
>>499747649>It's when you edge for several hours.So, edging?
>>499747505eshift
>>499747481touching ur pp in a stupid ritualistic wayit's what zoomers do because they're too pussy to do soft drugs
>>499747649>Supposedly this induces an altered state of consciousnessso this is why im owning my normal games before ranked opens
>>499747687Like 8 hours
>>499747649>>499747705That's retarded.
Talon is still do well in lane do well overall lose the game btw
>>499743280HELLO GOOD MORNING SAAAAAR
So Paradox bomb is the new Kudzu/tf shredder?>Improved Reach>Superior Duration>Escalating Exposure>Echo ShardBasically just drop the double bomb and watch enemy team melt in fucking miliseconds because amp stacks infinitely and every spirit build character will have like over +100% spirit damage on them.
What valve says>"Huge MMR variance detected, this will results in HARDER games for your party!"What valve actually means>"You're bringing a mudtier with you to grief this other guy's game while you're having fun anyway cause you're on call with bros hahahahaha fuck that random nigger"I had a 2/12 Haze in my game and when I bitched about it after he literally walked directly at their Abrams for the 5th time my whole team got on voice chat 'bro it's his first game he's with us'NIGGERHonestly Valve should simply refuse to let anyone with a large enough mmr gap queue as a stack unless they're 6 man so I don't have to be forcefed retards by people doing a 'bring your pisslow to work day'
I feel like 2 hours is pretty restrictive when it comes to testing new heroes, especially with 6 of them out at a time. Then locking them as well behind a mode that most probably won't play as well even further restricts it. There's Ranked, Normal, and now Hero Test at the same time that they were worried about "splitting playerbases". I feel like releasing them at a slower pace with more internal testing would be a better approach than dumping your 3 month workload WIP's out but not even fully committing to the stress test.
>>499747757Yeah, so what? There's no 'altered state of consciousness'.
>>499747832now he's the dota sniper of deadlock>rape for 20 minutes>die>die>die>die>lose
>>499747423i mostly play the game and get mad at certain aspects of heroes being absolutely retarded, but I don't necessary express them here.>hazeult is fine. ult being affected by silencer is not fine.>bebopult is too oppressive early game. fine mid and late game. the scaling with items that provide range specifically on his hook is too aggressive. 82m hook is ridiculous. fine character otherwise. the hook isn't even really an issue since you can use SKILL to predict and dodge it. just feels weird to have a lane-length displacement in the game. that's a personal opinion so it doesn't mean much.>geist bombone 500 soul item turns it into a lane-wide nuke. tone it down a LITTLE, but the real change would be to make it so you can LoS the center to avoid damage. why does her 2 have a long ass silence??>infernushis self healing is ~okay~ but it forces multiple people to purchase one or two items to even remotely deal with him. his afterburn damage scaling is okay but debuff reduced should severely hinder it unless he's actively shooting you. or something to that degree.i don't much care about the imbalances of the game other these.
>>499747787Porn addiction is a serious problem
>>499747448Parrying is not the issue with heavy melees what the fuck?Its the invisible inconsistent aoe hitbox, getting his 3 meters away, missing enemies in front of you, dodges being ineffective
>>499747882personally I find it insane that they are restricting the new heroes from regular mode at all, I would be fine with them in RANKED like wtf is the problem? I can only think that they plan on making changes to the heroes and dont want to keep patching things all day in case there are bugs
>>499747859holy shit that range lmao
>>499743801True BUT all character still have a gun and 4 weapon slots. If you aren't buying at least a couple gun items and trying your best to aim at heads, you ARE wood mmr. Just how it is.
>>499747887I've never done it myself, which is why I said it allegedly induces an altered state of consciousness. This is what gooners claim happens after several straight hours of non-stop edging. They talk about it like it's a form of meditation. At the same time, losing themselves entirely in it as an addiction seems to be part of the fetish. They also like to get together on Discord and moan into the voice channel while jerking off. Somehow they convince themselves this isn't gay.
ohhhh im gonna brooooool ohhhh im gonna farm the jungle while our walkers die ooooohhhhhhhhhhhhhh
>>499747982>Its the invisible inconsistent aoe hitbox, getting his 3 meters away, missing enemies in front of you, dodges being ineffectivei constantly *purposely* don't parry a heavy melee attack because my gut feeling is they're too far away for it to hit, but then a ghost hitbox of an oil tanker appears and chunks me for half my hp. other times I parry and they physically collide with my body but the melee hit still goes through. it's so inconsistent that it makes me mad.
>>499748159It's just like charging your JO crystal with your bro, nothing gay about that.
>>499748032>I can only think that they plan on making changes to the heroesThey directly told us this was the case. Magician doesn't even have a real ult yet.
>>499748032>>499747882New heroes are experimental and can have unexpected bugs and interactions that could potentially even break the game.
>>499746139>>499746527Stfu riotsamenigger no one asked
Post on the forums about it, I already made a patchnote feedback post saying it should be min 4 hours and shifted to not fully overlap ranked
>>499748376>and shifted to not fully overlap rankedThis is such a weird choice. I hope they move it to the afternoon
what happened to nekoscoreit's more accurate a reflection of player skill than any shit mmr valve makes
>>499748572bait
>>499747859This is not for teamfights.This is literally anti-chasing mechanic. Imagine an entire team wants to hunt down Paradox, she just drops double bomb in tight space when they're here, drops wall, ult on one and everyone just fucking melts in seconds.
>>499745675>>499746062you're both just retards. I shove my fist up my lane opponent every game. I know better than to say it's good game design. It's just not. Threaten someone with a heavy they have to stop moving, they have to stop shooting, they have to cancel any channels and if it turns out it was just a bait heavy, and they still take all those penalties and now they can't even stop the next 4 heavy melees.
>>499746139icegoat is such a genius he will make things work in time you gotta trust the plann and his vision he hasnt missed yet
>>499747859>every spirit build character will have like over +100% spirit damage on themanon its a personal buff
>>499746139yep.this patch is a complete shitshow
>>499748778It still means bomb stacks improve each other twice as efficiently. And she can always drop the ult, wall, carbine etc.
>>4997469912 years after the game was well established and it was immediately obvious it was a fuckup you mean
>>499748250Well yeah obviously they are unfinished i meant a lot of small tweaks they dont want to keep fiddling with throughtout the work day
>>499748860lmao niggas say that shit every 2 weeks but by next week we will adapt to the changes only thing we will be crying about the next op hero im guessing it will probably vindicta mirage or talon
>>499748662Read the fake melee. If faking it wasn't an option it would be a useless button.
>>4997464411000% what you said. unfortunately the devs are a bunch of moba idiots and every single patch pulls the game further away from its original vision where aim was important and empowers the top down moba skills
>>499748860meh honestly a weak patch, didn't add any real new characters and absolutely fucked up the testing ones (calico needs to be reverted)
>>499747956I can get behind that
>>499749027Delusional
>>499747143talon, although it's because he's extremely busted and straight up scales gun damage AND movement speed with spirit while having THE best spirit scaling spammable missile in the game.just sayin
>about to go to a job interviewwish me luck anons
>>499749226gl
>>499749226hope it's the sissy strip club, fagiscous
>>499747505reactive barrier - metal skin - ethereal shift - go so fast by the time it catches you you don't exist - slowing hex to stop teleports - silence to stop everything
vindicta talon paradox cancer sniper meta
>>499749515hope you enjoy the next 2 weeks of that
>>499749515>Vindicta gets very small buff to attack speed >this somehow transforms D tier hero into OP
Yamatochads...What the FUCK!?!
>>499749982you don't understand, people see paradox at #1 on the leaderboards 'cause that autism man spams her. she's good in comp play because of swap + shield + kevlar. that means she's absolutely busted strong OP according to the actual drooling retards in this thread.
>>499749982more bullet damage per boon, assassinate cash is all for yourself again, spirit fire rate, doubled flight duration, assassinaties hitbox increased by 1/4th. yeah! small buffs all around!
>>499749515sounds like game is gonna be unplayable because my team will have at least one of those shitty squishy heroes on my team
>>499749982assassinate gold isnt shared anymore which is a gigahuge buff>Hey guys what if you could BROOOOL and still get two waves of FREE souls injected into your veins per kill
>>499750395>assassinate cash is all for yourself againThis is nerf
>>499750534Situational, if your vindictas hard carrying this is a major buff. If hes not? doesn't matter at all. Otherwise expect all vindictas on the enemy team to be perma-fed monsters because of matchmaking.
>>499748121I don't mind that part, guns should be able to be improved, but I HATE that >Bullet Armor>Metal SkinAre pretty much mandatory in 80% of games All the people calling aimlet and shit are just mad that they are getting called out for the CS:GO niggery
what are the console commands to test the new heroes? cant select them in the sandbox
>>499750219its over
>>499750997go into main menu then roster, select experimental heros.
You can just commend everyone after a game with no restrictions.Whats the point then?
>>499751179funny noise
>>499751179>Whats the point then?maybe to show someone you liked playing with them?
Does healing booster make any sense on Paradox? She gets 100% lifesteal from her ult so it's like +25% lifesteal, except it also applies to healing you give others? Healing Nova? Restorative Locket? Idk
>>499750859>if your vindictas hard carryingVindicta is squishy as fuck, without proper threats in team keeping heat from her she just folds. Vindicta with 10k leas over other teammates won't winnyou game like Shiv with 10k lead
>>499751415if the item is good on a hero you dont have to ask
>>499751526Okay but it's paradox so no item is "good" on her
>>499751508yeah but (good) vindictas can get that 10k lead faster than anyone else just by brooling or stealing kills. Getting a bonus 850 souls just by pressing 4 and then m1 (at any range btw). It's not like she doesn't get any less souls from farming and has a good gun and a percentage dmg skill so she can somewhat take t3 camps earlier than most other characters.
>>499751678Mystic shot is great on her
>>499751415I use it and pick it up after rapid recharge and diviner's kevlar. The healing increases feels significant enough to warrant it.
>>499751678mystic range , cd, burst, spirit, toic bullets, healbane, mystic shot, decay, slowing hex, curse, knockdown colossus ethereal shift, soul rebirth
So, what's the hardcounter to EXTREME heya hoya heya for 2 weeks, other than praying the person playing him can't hit any of their shots.Legitimately the most OP character I've ever seen in deadlock so far, since I started playing just before Shiv's first round of nerfs.
>>499751296gluk gluk gluk
>>499751774>so she can somewhat take t3 camps earlier than most other characters.Bro, statistically Vindicta has lowest souls from Neutrals, she's the worst farmer in the game. And it's beside the point, Vindicta 10k ahead can be burst down by enemy team, unlike all current S tier heroes, she can't carry if she doesn't have good frontline. It's much better if Vindicta feeds allied Shiv with half of 850 souls than get them all for herself
>>499752224knockdown/phantom strike+slowing hex. You can't outrun him on the ground, and the dashes in the air have no air drag.
>>499752224Talon, unlike Shiv for the last two weeks, doesn't even have a point where he has to play careful. I've got post-game graphs of Talon starting at 1000 souls per minute at minute 3 and just climbing from there.Box-sliding, wave clearing, pseudo global ult presence, sanicspeed-dodging, objective deleting, flying giga-nuker who can buy one 3k orange item and m1 you down like a full gun build carry.>>499752418>He has Ethereal Shift
>>499752224bet we wont see anyone crying about abrams this is going to be extra toxic 2 weeks talon vindicta mirage paradox all being buffed nasty work by icefrog/valve
>paradox speed boost from carbine applies to magic carpethow can I best take advantage of this
>>499752224>HERE COMES THE LASh>grapple noise>RING RING RING>Death SlamIts gonna be miserable laning against him though
ivy kudzu build finally dead?
>>499753402now we're playing echoshard paradox
>>499753402Nah, it's still solid. Now you have seven balls and paradox pulse grenade to compete or join the cancer
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Imagine if when Paradox threw grenade her breasts expanded just like grenade AoE expands until thry burst from her top, haha
>jump into the air>dont have to aim>kill vindicta in 3 burstsLMFAO
>>499734162You know it's just a 150 dmg nuke with 20 second cd right, aside from max upgrade? Getting headhunter and mystic shot doesn't affect the damage in any way, those are separate damage sources. Meanwhile every other hero has a 150 damage aoe grenade they can spam freely in lane. The headshot reduction functionally deals an additional 15 damage per headshot, it really is only a big deal at super long ranges in lane. Not saying it doesn't push the hero into being overpowered but it's hardly a gamebreaking ability. Essentially you have talons arrows but single target and with a higher cd.
