Victory EditionFeatured Banners:Wanderer Princess LanavilleKnight Errant Gerard the ThundersmiterOfficial wiki:https://wizardry.wiki.gg/wiki/Wizardry_Variants_DaphneGeneral Information:https://rentry.org/x5xxitrzJP fanguide:https://gamerch.com/wizardry-daphne/Friend code:https://rentry.org/WizDaphneIDThread template:https://rentry.org/DaphneTemplatePrevious >>499728879
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>>499781112EOS already...
>>499780870Is Yekaterina necessary for exploring?
>did all I could>Now its time to fight the bf8 bossHow bad is it gonna wreck me?
>>499781207I don't think it's that simple. If anyone does work out how to spawn it though, that's huge.
>>499781112Last chance to bugmaxx for maximum compensation gems
>>499781503not so bad if you have your Pickaxe at hand
>>499781485Nobody is necessary in this gameHowever you WILL get ambushed and it will often be the most dangerous thing that happens to you and Yekat will save you numerous times
>>499781560You can check it on that 3500G chest in the ship. Going back to IIRC the 3rd fight checkpoint respawns it everytime, though it won't show up in the map.
>>499781678Yekaterina is actually feeling useless to me.She hasn't prevented an ambush for ages.
>>499781761Where's the 3500g chest? In the treasure room from the boss fight?Might be a worthwhile farm.
>>499781485No, I feel like it's a 1/10 or 1/8 chance of actually stopping an ambush. Something nice to have but not reliable enough to make a difference. It barely triggers
>>499781860Skill issue, she nullifies what feels like at least 50% of ambushes to me
>>499781920No it's in the other room, it's blocked by some guy until like after the 3rd fight I think.
>>499781958>character doesn't work as intended>"SkKIlL iSsue"Go choke on cock somewhere else.
>>499782035Oh, the one above the fight guy? So what, you can just re-fight the 3rd boss over and over and get the money each time?
>>499782240no you don't need to refight anything, just keep warping to the same checkpoint over and over and the chest will keep respawning.
Savoring Lulunarde's feet is a risk itself
What does risk tastes like?
>Wizardry anime announcedIt's all coming together
>>499782183Works on my machine
I unlocked MAREIN. And it's the first time I've ever saw a "Critical".They should've still chosen something better instead of "Surety" for CH.>>499782438Savory.
What does savory tastes like?
>>499782927Lulu's feet.
>>499782927Savory is a very risky taste.
I beat the Bronze exam but now I can't decide who gets axed for their tags...
>>499782980So Lulu's feet is very savory? So savour the risk?>>499783268If I was you I'd start by seeing what 80 mentality characters can I let go.
lana in bikini armor...
Never forget that japan got a horribly translated version of wizardry that removed all the humor and references. Its why jap wizardry is so doom and gloom.
should i replace barbara with debra?My MC has enough trap disarm and detect skill.
>>499782336Seems like it's fight 4 that moves the dude. You also can't just "jump" to a checkpoint you're already at, it seems. It doesn't actually reload anything, the chest didn't respawn. I guess if you go from fight 3 to 4 over and over through the wheel it's farmable, but that's 2 trips and barely worth it for 3.5k.
>try farming mausoleum meme>get 6/8 fighter bone fast then 3 junk in a row while having to fight le epic horseman over and over one time twice Bros? I'm missing out on gold farm for this?
>>499783473>Never forget that japan got a horribly translated version of D&D that removed all the humor and references. Its why Lodoss War is so doom and gloom.uh huh okay
>got a bone from some random enemyI thought it was a myth but damn that's nice
After getting 4/4 in mage mausoleum i stopped getting bones. I've been trying for past half an hour. Is it really unlimited..?
>>499783873ayy fuck you
>Lanavaille, Yekatarina, 2 copies of Alice, 2 copies of AdamWho should I use my boner picker on? Debra?
>>499783515>>499783963>using debhag when there's so many cute horny thieves to choose from
Anyone know WHICH rocks in B8F go where in B7F?>>499783889the 4/4 one doesn't work, you have to do one of the other ones.
>>499783548Damn looks like they fixed it, the chest doesn't respawn anymore.
>>499784223just restore them all, another lap around 7 wouldn't hurt
>>499784081Accurate depiction of landlords in north america.
>>499784483I'm trying something different.
How do I get the ent quest on F3 to reappear? I've tried rewinding to just after progressing past the cave ins all the way to the live bait. The bunny quest has showed up again just not the ents.
How do we ensure that Lulu remains barefoot when we revive her smelly corpse?
Why farm Amelia specifically?
>Alice dies to explosion chest>go to town>Yekaterina wants to talk in the tavern>Alice suddenly alive after I talk to heruhhhhh, is she a necromancer
>>499784676You can redo the quests that way?
>>499784725She's cute. Anyway, I may have found the omega bone farm, which means SRs become obsolete.
>>499781112Well you never told us the initial schedule plan so go ahead I guess.
>>499784875Yes. I've been spamming ones like the 5F grandchildren to level up bondmates or get ones I missed.
>>499784223So which ones work. Everyone says something different. Is it all except noname and mage then?
>>499783764You know the Cuisinart is a food processor, right? Japan didn't know that at the time since it wasn't a thing there. Even the in-game graphic for it depicted it as such.
>>499785041All except noname.
>lulunarde's fearsome technique...
>>499783473But they still have a bunny.
>>499785145is she secretly a succubus
>>499784946Care to share with the class anon?
>>499785115Then why am i not getting any from mage after 4/4? Ive been trying for half an hour
>>499785270I haven't got it consistent yet. I did successfully spawn a real bone twice, though.
Fuck this shit, the only neutral thief I have is Philiph. And he has 90 mentality.
Anyone have the new 2ch thread?I'm Harken Hooked I need to consume as much content about this game as possible.
>>499784808Greater Harken revives the dead upon returning to town.
>>499785558I'm in port town and still didn't beat it though
>>499785078okay
What's the use of creeping coins? Just sell? Because I'm pretty sure I saw somewhere a fucking long time ago those could be used to detect traps or something but I don't see any option
Man, I can't figure out how to respawn this bone. It might be a daily thing, because I did it after and before rollover.
Fun fact. In wizardry 4, the adventurer parties you fight belonged to actual players. When you completed wizardry1-3, you could ship your floppy disk in to prove it. Then, due to the plot of 4, your party might be in the game. Also, Robin Williams was a known fan of the series and sent his floppy in. So, if you ever played 4, you might have fought his characters.
>>499786351I'm talking about the ones that dropped from the coin monsters on the daily quest by the way
>undead grade boss>attract hit>Gerard dodgetanked every single attack from the boss and walked out of there unscathed Damn I was worried over nothing, what a good boy.
Does Helmut level scale? Because I don't want to do the next rank up quest and find myself dealing with a level 40 Helmut.
>>499786351Yes. They are just sale items.Someone just trolled you by speaking bullshit
>>499786684no, he only gets stronger from first run to NG+
Another fucking bugCan't repair harken at all on the first ship mapwowzers
I call BS on unlimited mausoleum. I tried it, didn't work. Prove me wrong, post a screenshot of your farmed bones
>>499786895Apparently only the Thief one is infinite is that the one you're doing?
Seems like it's better to dismiss low bonus named adventurers with bad inherit skills like Milana than generics who all have useful inherits?
>>499786895I absolutely got multiple mages out of it when I tried 2 days ago, and the thief was still working fine 2 hours ago.
Should I just run through the earlier floors for gold? It's such a pain swapping weapons constantly on 7F/8F (haven't beaten Helmut the first time yet or the rank up exam), and I mostly just find junk (which keeps leading to better gear and thus less money). Also, will the Goblin Caves be doable now?
hold up, fighting Helmit and noticed I have this what is this ability?Am I supposed to revive the knights/king?
>>499787171You're supposed to use it on the rocks.
>>499787171No.Watch for the Rolling Rocks.Literally.
>>499786995>>499787125So is it thief only? Not all like people been saying?
>>499787171You Restore the rubble blocking the frontlineProtip: You can also Restore the rubble AFTER you destroy it with damage (optimally with the Pickaxe) to stun helmut for 2 turns
So, you really can't change your alignment?
What do Ninjas do in Wizardry games?
>>499786895I farmed the warrior one to finally get my wife Chloe and I got Gaston like three fucking times before thatI'm pretty convinced they're infinite and the Fortitude cost is your "tax" for going in there
>>499787603Weird, I farmed the warrior one and I got a different one each time>went in to get Elise>she was the very last bone to drop
>>499784676Okay I got it. I had to go from the cave in part to 4F, then look into the crack to trigger it.
>>499787603How many junk is normal? Is it 50/50?
>>499787571They ninja. Duh.
>>499787460You can't change it yet. There will probably be a way later.>>499787364It should be all. The fact I'm just doing thief doesn't mean it's thief only, they're all identical.
>>499787571Instakill chance.
>>499787571Ninjas can kill anyone they want! Ninjas cut off heads ALL the time and don’t even think twice about it. These guys are so crazy and awesome that they flip out ALL the time.
>Way of the Thief>Increases decisive damage during a decisive hitWhat's decisive? Hits with surety?
Reminder that the most optimal way to play ninja is to go around naked, flashing your body around.
https://x.com/MangaMoguraRE/status/1849811975737315741Is this the wizardry LN?
>>499787741Someone said it's 1/3 for a bone because there are 3 doors in each wing and you need to pay gems to open more than oneI haven't paid the gems because it also spawns enemies out the ass and I can farm more safely without themMy personal experience was more like 60/40 in favor of bones, but I might have gotten very lucky
>>499788169Oh wait I'm blind. It says so right on the cover.
>>499788169yes, it has a manga tooits true to the original Wizardry
Alright, after some more testing, I think that making chests respawn is something you can only do once a day, and I'm still unsure as to the mechanism. I'll try again after the date change.The dream of infinite true bones may be dead.
>>499788738I guess if we ever get a collab/crossover it will be with that
>>499788842its written by the Goblin Slayer author so thats not out of the question either>Vorpal Bunnies confirmed
>>499787571They fuck.
Are we supposed to use our gems on the gerard wolf dude or wanderer lanavaille?
AHHH QUIT ASKING ME TO REVIEW I ALREADY LEFT A 5 STAR REVIEW FOR YOUR BUGGY SHIT GAME
>>499789330You're supposed to save for a real event.
>>499789330Neither. Lana is just a skinGerard is kind of meh.Wait for the next banner to come.
>>499789186
Have a Yekaterina with 7 points.Should I go with; 4 IQ 3 VIT?
>>499789330you're suppposed to whip out that credit card until you get 12 of both.
>>499789473can't wait to fish for 1% decapitation on every boss from now on
I wish the was an option to see only a black background with white lines, my phone isn't very good and performance tanks inside the abyss.
I wish this game had a bestiary and rewards for filling it out, I always get so excited when I meet a new enemy.
After 5 straight junk from fighter after I got 8/8 I think I'm done
>>499790512I'd like to fill out a Succubus
Okay thief one is working
>>499783473If wizardry was as big as it was in the West as it was in the Japan, you'd probably have a Marvel-tier quip coming out every couple of seconds. Perhaps the tone is a good thing.
>>499781112Please extend the start dash period I could really use that Day 7 bonus.
>>499790840>Wizardry with Larian writingIt could work
Does the story end on the ship?Because I can't find the captain
>>499790691Bro you're almost there though...
I really really really want more classes.Althought the current roster is already far more indepth than anything any other gacha could fathom.The fact that there are more than 3 things you can do in battle is enough to fry the brain of the usual gachaslop player.
>game started constantly disconnecting>also won't let me fix harkensWhy do the bugs keep increasing.
>>499790724So you have some way to always get bones from the mausoleum? Or some glitch to repeatedly open the same chest?
>Mimic in the mausoleum
>>499792106No you just open one chest each trip, it might have a bone and it might not. A lot of people think it's a glitch but it's clearly intentional.
>>499792316>but it's clearly intentional.Which is why the tutorial one runs out, right? And why they say shit like 6/6 and not "run forever, retard!"?
>>499792489Why they fuck would the death god's blessing, which costs GEMS by the way, last an hour and not a certain number of trips if it wasn't meant to be spammed?
Should i open monster chest drops in mausoleum?
>>499792316I haven't unlocked it yet since I'm still at the beggining abyss, but can you do it as many times as you want per day?
>>499791568Are there any other Wizardry games that are also like this game in the sense that they also give fighters/thieves etc. multiple special abilities? I've seen them called auto attack simulators a lot
>>499792828Yeah it just takes forever. But the bones are for general adventurers, which in terms of monetization are nearly worthless.
T-there's nothing wrong with milk...!!
>>499792721Because you can spam it, on getting to that bone limit? Pretty sure it applies to every crypt for that hour.
>>499792879Also does the "Crucible" Mausoleum change weekly or why is there a random mixed one there in addition to the class ones?The fighter one is kinda annoying to farm with 8 possible characters
>>499792930
>>499792930She won't be laughing when she's suffering from osteoporosis
>>499792930Always pick milk, I need my protein.
You use alteration stones to change the trait on gear?You use refinement stones to enhance a trait that's already on a piece of gear?Am I understanding the blacksmith stones right?Is there a limit to refinement?
>>499793098L-leave me alone!>>499793124You tell her bro
>>499793191Asking milk right in front of a dwarf sounds hilarious for some reason
>>499793415I like that you can clearly see the shock on his 1 sq inch of visible face
If I retire from the grade up boss fight do I have to use another adventurer tag to enter again? Any advice?This is such a bullshit faggot fight man, you encounter a million squads that will deplete your SP and MP just to get 5 fucking instakill bunnies YOU HAVE to kill with magic AOE spells (BUT there's no MP recharging item on this medieval setting fantasy and MAGIC RPG) and the faggot skeleton that has a million HP
>>499793124>>499793191Doot doot.
>>499793592It doesn't cost anything to enter, you just need a tag to enter.
>>499793592No you only consume the tag when you actually grade up.Also the map stays revealed so you can j ust automove to the boss location(s)
>>499793592>do I have to use another adventurer tag to enter again?nyo>you encounter a million squads Map out as much of the map and then do covert operations on your actual run - you can reach the boss without fighting a single enemy
>>499793592Do recon runs until you figure out the best paths and then go in stealth mode avoiding all mobs
>>499793754If you use automove you move so fast that the enemies can't move from their spawn point to the main path fast enough to get in your way.
>>499793592It’s free to enter as many times as you need. First map the place out, then do a separate trip where you avoid all the mobs and run straight to the boss spawning spots.
wish me luck
>>499794038gl
>>499793754>>499793749welp, that's good to know at least>>499793754>>499793865>>499793964I just keep running at random encounters at every corner, every literal corner where I have to turn to the sides has a fucking squad appearing out of thin airIs it any different if I go out and in again? Going by what the description said the map was random each time so I assumed it would be just more of the same bullshit design
>>499791252Operencia?
Are generic runs a thing? Looking at screenshots everybody is running at least 4 SSRs, which feels kinda samey
>>499794569There's barely any difference between an SSR and an SR barring SSRs tend to have a custom passive of dubious value. You can always inherit that skill to a generic if you want. Otherwise, you can run a party of 6 Human Pri-chans if you really wanted.
>>499794569yeah i take anons to mausoleum. Some of them are pretty good. And right now I think general adventurers have better team synergy than SSRs
>>499779156Why does Alice need IQ?
>>499794818you will want to class change her into mage
OKAYI tested out a lot of the weird equipment like various rings, tattered doll, mace of agonyThe only one with a "hidden" stat bonus is rabbit tail (trap evade)All the other ones are just shitty/redundant by design unless there's a super secret unlisted perk. I wouldn't put it past them to give tattered doll a hidden bonus to flee success or something because otherwise it's just a renamed iron ring.
>>499794901You'll want to but you need an item from the weekly shop that you won't ever see lmao.
>>499794569You can if you want, the problem with generics is I don't think they talk much. SRs are better.
>>499794901Why? Is her mage better than priest?
>>499795025If I had to guess, the tattered doll gives you curse res, which doesn't show up on the stats screen.mace of agony just has higher attack power than a bronze mace.
>>499795130ye, she gets more buffs and debuffs and her starting stat spread is more fitting for a mage
>>499794252You’ve just gotta learn how to kite or run past or loop around. It’ll be easier when you have most of the map visible.
>>499795212Whoah what the hell? What next? Yekaterina Priest is better than Mage?
"Go forth with the most ubiquitous race"What the fuck does this means? What I'm supposed to do? Almost everyone is dying.
>>499795542Dictionary, now.
>Ambushed by wind elementals >Entire party slept >MAFERU >MAFERU >MAFERU >O spirit...
>>499775265 #You don’t. Characters aged and died in old age in the original Wizardry games, which apparently no one who replied to me has ever heard of or played.>>499761651 #It is mentioned as part of the tutorial for how death and resurrection affects your characters.
What is this enemy? I'm sacred. The heartbeat sound is very fast and loud.
>>499795542Humans
damn that was my first full party wipehelmut is soul crushing
>>499795875Scared* to the point I can't even write right
>>499795130>>499795212She'll eventually be a great mage, but with the class change items being random and very limited (at least so far), I wouldn't bet on you using her as a mage for the next 30+ hoursJust put most points into Vit and Speed so it's useful in either class, her initial stats and bonus points will only be a small part of total stats after class levels that will pump up IQ/Piety respectively
>>499796064well you can always inherit an attack spell onto her.
>>499795836why is every single namefag, without a single exception, either a complete schizo or massive retard?
>>499796270for (You)s
Goddamn it! I been stuck on this screen for an hour already, i can't decide
>>499796270Because tripfagging is just clout chasing. They want to build up a reputation. And you need to be retarded to want to build a reputation on fucking 4chan.
>>499796270Because only retards would use a name on an anonymous site in the first place.
>>499796341It's not that fucking deep, dude. All the other level ups are RNG shit anyway, 2 extra points here and there won't make any difference in the long run.
>We have a tripfag nowWe're officially a big league gacha general boys!
>>499796341you got 15 spd the rest is whatever i have two alices so i put mine all in piety ill make my second one a mage
Having spent an hour farming the Thief Mausoleum, I'm very torn on if it's intentional or not.On one hand, this game absolutely needs a way to acquire bones for random people or else you simply cannot rank up. This implies that, yes, all these bones that you grind here are intentional. They are core to the gameplay.On the other hand, this is a lot of passives and stats you can stack on units. Alice is good, but what about Valdor who has had 20 other Valdors shoved into him, giving him a ton of extra base stats?What about the MC who has consumed every inherited skill? There's a lot of power even in these generics. I'm going to keep farming it since the exp isn't awful, maybe bringing some other small characters when I hit 40, but I feel like this needs to stay unchanged and also can't remain as is.
>failed to detect trap>failed to detect trap>failed to detect trap>scared of chests
>>499796470Not even RNG, it's just class dependent, so as a priest she'll gain a lot of piety from levels, and when she's releveled as a mage she'll get lots of IQThat's why I recommended him to just put most points into Vit/Speed because they'll be useful in both classes, but either way by level 30 these bonus points already hardly matter and by endgame (if it really goes to level 100+) it'll be the tiniest drop in the bucket
>>499796712There's a max level for disciplines and inherited skills. I don't find it unbelievable that they intend for your main party to all have Assault Guard, for example.
>>499795836I can confidently say, having played Llylgamyn Saga, they will not do that.This is a gacha, a Japanese one too, which has laws against modifying characters in negative ways that were not disclosed upon purchase/pulling in gacha.And one of the dialogues conveniently says that Cursed Wheel will keep people you need around.
So is only Thief Mausoleum farmable or all named ones
>decide to take a team of level 1s to the mausoleum to see if it affects enemy level>it does not and they all get wiped out>pick 'accept death' to put myself at the start of the mausoleum>it puts me at the end of NG+ Abyss B1FAh shit I should've brought a hook
>>499796712>or else you simply cannot rank up.You get tags each week.There's no way in hell infinite bone farming is intended. It completely breaks the game.
>>499796621>>499796470>>499796769So this is good then? >>499796341Sorry, i have a bit of autism
>>499797082All named ones. I've been trying to farm knight for assault guard. You might also want to farm mage for Dino to use in den of earth.
>>499797242Three ungraded tags per week. I'm looking at the Iron test which will require 24 ungraded tags. The answer cannot be 'wait 8 weeks'.
>>49979727515 speed everything into iq.People will contest the IQ dump but, class change to wizard will be future proof.
Where do you find the fluorescent flowers in beginning abyss once you have the glowstone?
>>499797170always have a hook at hand.
>>499797242No it doesn't. The game is going to be dependent on pulling SSRs. You will inevitably have dozens of not only all the general/anonymous adventurers but also general pool SSRs.Is this your first gacha?
>>499797275I would put the piety point into vit and leave rest like you have
>>499797562B-B-B-But she will heal like shit
>>499797421Each deleted character gives you 1-3 tags. Events can easily make up the difference.>>499797516If bones were intended to be this common, there would be far more sources of them in the story.
>>499797421Well the answer also can't be "farm 2048 bones for orihalcum"
>>499797661Nah, spells and attacks are way more dependent on items than stats.
>>499797681What, no there wouldn't be. Mausoleum is the source of SR bones, period.You CAN NOT get SSRs from Mausoleum, and those are the only units that actually matter in the long term.
>>499797349I think I'll try fighter, maxing out counterattack and follow-up attack could be extremely busted
there is no shortcut for the last boss right?it's a gauntlet and I have to use the fountain after clearing a path? already beat the mini boss so I am just wondering
Is there any Mage or Priest spell/skill that use SP?
>>499798104Mage gets one to boost their spell damage yes.
>>499798092You can sneak past all of floor 8.
>>499798092Yes there's no shortcut. Either fully stock up on healing items and hope that you don't get ambushed too often; or get good at dodging enemies (if you manage to detect them)
>>499797421Maybe Weekly quests of higher level areas give better tags. Does the port have one?
>>499797681Not necessarily. It's similar to other gacha where you have a generic banner that you can roll 1-4* units, but 4*s are extremely rare. Oftentimes 4*s are acquire through the premium banners along with 5*s and are much more common there.
>>499798346Port tag quest just gives 3 ungraded.
>>499798092You mean Helmut on B8? Yeah, just clear as many mobs as you can and use the fountain. Don’t forget to re-equip your normal weapons after clearing up the undead.
>>499797487Idk if it took pity on me or not, but I only ran into two encounters (both fixed encounters so couldn't juke them) of four goblins. Once my last ally was down they only ever spent their turns grinning or hitting Albano>>499798092You've got two options. One is that you have good detection and avoid every encounter (aside from one room, they rarely travel along the wall). The second is that you kill everything in one run then go back to the well for full restore. Killing the ents on a separate run before is even safer.
IDK why dumping all bonus points into speed is not common. Damage and defense you can shore up with equipment, but speed will always be an arms race.Getting outsped by enemies in turn base games sucks ass, especially if getting ambushed or enemy natural outspeed preventing you from setting up correctly
>>499798436So it's the same as the first one,i assume you can not them both right to we are stuck with 3 weekly the one from the daily login.
>>499798989You can shore that up with equipment too, ASPD is a thing broNow VIT and LUC, those stats you can't raise at all
Tragic how many new players get bunny'd
>>499798421You don't get it. Banners are CONTROLLED. All gem sources in gacha are CONTROLLED to prevent inflation and to increase FOMO in whales.Bone farming is uncontrolled. Nothing is stopping you farming 2000 bones. Sure, they're only SRs, but this game makes an obvious distinction between free grindable stuff, like equipment, and paid stuff, like bones. Every other bone source in the game is controlled, just like gems. You can't farm bone chests. The bone man only shows up X amount of times within a span of time or a location, you can't just reset the map for 5 hours until he shows up again.If you could farm other bone sources, I would agree with you that they have just made the decision to let SR bones be uncontrolled. But you're also forgetting the tombs were bugged on launch, and this was a shoddy hotfix to get them working, which makes it even more likely that it's a bug.>>499799052Yeah, you only get 3 weekly. I imagine events will fill in the gaps, honestly nobody needs to be above 40 yet anyway, the 2nd dungeon boss is doable at 30 with half-decent gear, and fairly easy at 40.
>>499799203What's he going to do, nibble my bum?
>>499798238I tried this earlier I kept getting ambushed somehow i'll try it later I guess>>499798263i'll make sure to stock up on healing stuff and dodge >>499798486>re-equip your normal weapons after clearing up the undeadis weapon swap working last time I tried it crashed me>>499798603I might try clearing but it's fine I just need to plan it out
>>499798436>Port tag quest?????!!
>>499799368It's the weekly tag quest, dude. If you're in the port town you get a port town version of it, it's not something you can do more often.
>>499799209SRs are uncontrolled because they DON'T MAKE MONEY
>>499798989Action value is a stat that you can increase via equipments and in-combat buffs bro.
Mausoleum farming is just this game's version of corpse dragging, only absolute autists would do it that wouldn't buy rolls to begin with
>>499797483both are on B3. far as i remember on the west/northwest part of the map. look for glowing points that you have to interact with
>>499799364> is weapon swap working last time I tried it crashed meI think swapping in combat is still bugged, it’s safe to do it out of combat.
>>499799567>they DON'T MAKE MONEYSRs are the pity reward for SPENDING MONEY.If you can have infinite of them, for free, then SPENDING MONEY becomes even less likely, because the consolation prize is worthless. All that matters is SSRs, everything else you get is junk.Why aren't tags farmable? Why aren't bone chests farmable? Why isn't the bone man farmable? Why isn't the tutorial tomb farmable?Why is ONE tiny implementation of bone generation farmable?
>>499799898>Why aren't tags farmable? THEY ARE>Why aren't bone chests farmable? Because they can give you SSRs>Why isn't the bone man farmable? Because he can give you SSRs>Why isn't the tutorial tomb farmable?Because it's the fucking tutorial.
>>499799816alright I''ll do it that way thanks
>>499799732Thanks.
>>499799898You're fucking dumb. SR bones being farmable with a decent degree of risk is obviously by design. You can have all the SRs in the world but it won't matter if you don't roll SSRs.
>>499800029>THEY AREWhere are tags farmable? Infinitely, by the way. If you say "uh you can turn bones to tags so that means they're infinite because bones are infinite" or if you say "uh you get 3 a week so that means given infinite time they're infinite", you're a complete moron.>>499800029>Because they can give you SSRs>Because he can give you SSRsWhy wasn't there a version of these that gives you forced SRs or worse, then?>>499800193There's zero risk.
>>499799203
>>499797449>15 speed everything into iq>Got one shot by poison breath or some dumbshit AoE
>>499800271>. If you say "uh you can turn bones to tags so that means they're infinite because bones are infinite" YESTHAT'S THE FUCKING POINTTHAT IS THE POINT OF THE CONTENTTHAT IS WHY MAUSOLEUM EXISTSYOU ARE NOT FUCKING PULLING A FAST ONE ON THE DEVS, IT IS THE ENTIRE INTENTION
>>499800386Cortu
So for mausoleum is the strat to bake a +20 undead bane weapon or what?Because the necrotaur isn't really hard just tedious if anything.
>>499800425?
>>499800605Well bake a +20 undead bane and a +20 steel and compare the two.
Whales in this game want SSRs and RsSR are less valuable in this game which is why the rates are so high compared to other gacha.
>>499800396>YESHoly fuck, you're retarded. In a few days when they fix the bug and you start getting nothing but scraps after farming 6 bones per tomb, I'm going to laugh at you.You do not understand the fundamental difference between gated resources and free resources. It's the lynchpin of the gacha system, it's why you get 3 revives over X time instead of unlimited revives. Tags are time-gated on purpose, to incentivize payment to "skip the grind". Why didn't they just not make tags if they wanted you to be able to get every level up quest for free (in terms of both time and money, both are commodities in gacha)?
>>499792871Multiple no, but Wizardry 8 gives Fighters a special heavy hitting Berserk attack and Rogues get Backstab (I don't remember if backstab is passive or active though). Also, Dracons get a breath attack, so Fighter Dracons have 2 (two!) special abilities.
>>499800605The strat is to avoid the necrotaur and just oneshot any other group you run into with mages
>>499801023IDIOT. >(in terms of both time and money, both are commodities in gacha)That's why you can PAY GEMS TO MAKE MAUSOLEUM EASIER AND FASTER.Do you really fucking think something that incentivizes you to PAY MONEY is going to be LIMITED?
>>499800637Mages can cast Cortu if you know the enemy is prone to AoE magic attacks.You cast it at the start of fights and you get a team wide magic defense buff.I'm doing lvl 50 fights and not a single mob or boss has wiped my entire team in one spell or AoE attack.Also Alice in particular is pretty bulky for no reason vs a Lut who has around 80 hp less than her and still isn't one shot.And both my casters use a two handed staff no shield so there real threat imo if you properly prepare.
>>499801126That still doesn't sound very involved compared to this gameSure just using (Better Attack) isn't the deepest thing in the world, but it's at least some additional resource management, it works well with other stuff that gives you windows of opportunity like defend creating openings/sleep doubling damage received etc.I'm just genuinely surprised this game has such fun combat
>>499801271>I'm doing lvl 50 fightswtf where
>>499800931Why do whales want Rs? They have even less passives than SRs.
>>499787082Milana is a good girl tho
>>499801506Because you need an absolute shit ton of them to max out their inheritable passives.
>>499801517If thats true anon why is she always so mean to me then???
And there it is, /vg/ thread getting ruined because phonegacha brain kids cry about game mechanics they dont understand.
>>499801271>level 50christ dudeIs there anything beyond the second dungeon yet? what's the best exp farm?
>>499801265You can pay money for literally everything in this game, like every gacha. Whales will pay the gems so they can farm the 6 bones per room faster, not so they can farm infinite bones. That's why you pay for a roll, not infinite rolls.
>>499801271>Mages can cast Cortu if you know the enemy is prone to AoE magic attacks.Yeah dude just get one shotted until Alice could change class haha
>>499801506Their passives are universal and not class locked.
>>499801664I don't know that's still seems pretty tame for an autism fight.
If Alice is better as a mage then is there anyone who is better as a class change Priest? Frontline evade priest Vivianna? Adam?
Were those 9 poison tiles on B7F really necessary?
>>499802021You only have to walk on them once, so I'll forgive them.
If i change class, will my class skill resetted?
>>499801923Mark my words, when this game gets more popular, we are going to see more avatarfagging,pointless drama, ragebait from other gachagamers because their waifu didnt drop from event roll, common bad players who cant play rpg games.Imagine wizardry of all games gets ruined by normies and gacha coomers.
>>499802206No you keep all your skills unless they say "<class-specific>". And even then you technically keep them they're just inactive.
>>499802021Yes.You get to open an alternative path later and it effectively serves as a punishment for retards who refuse to interact with their environment.>>499802206No you keep skills and any over lapping skill gets a level up regardless of current exp on it.I.e. a level 3 heavy attack requires like 5 fodder but, if you level up and learn heavy attack it'll instantly level it to 4.
>>499796270I don’t think it’s schizophrenic or retarded to suggest that the game might do the thing it explicitly says it might do and the series has a history of doing.
>>499801416>That still doesn't sound very involved compared to this gameIt's really not, on physical side of things. It is as you said an auto-attack simulator with them. Mages are a lot more varied. And bards and gadgeteers get a lot of fun toys (they're just mage spells in item form).But yeah, at the end of the day it mostly has attack-attack-spell-heal gameplay, though there are some interesting things like considering that enemies can surround your party and kill your backline.
>>499801767Whatever man just keep thinking you're some kind of super sneaky guy because you can spend an hour to get 3 SRs that we'll all have hundreds of in 3 months.>>499802401I'll believe you when you can point to a character's age on the status screen.
Guess where i just came from
The only tripfags postsin all 4chan boards worth reading are the caretakers and managers of divegrass teams.Everyone else always 100% posts nothing of value.
>>499802540>hundreds of in 3 monthsmore like 3 in hundred months with this gem income
>half of bf8>still no enhance orewhere is it? i already get the digging axe but don't know where
>>499802616>Thread seething over a literal who because he just existThere has always balance between annoying tripfags and posts complaining about tripfags and now you're leaning it towards the side where you're being way more annoying than the annoying tripfag.
>>499802630We don't really have a good grasp of the gem economy yet, it's only been a week and we haven't seen any limited events or anything. I don't think Savor the Risk really counts. Optimistically I'd say we could potentially get 10k gems/month, but it's probably going to be closer to 8k plus some number of bones.
Why can't we pick and choose which passives to inherit? I just want to give Priest-chan Marianne's reduced SP passive...
>>499802964I don't think we will see any for a while either since they will focus on fixing the game for now
>>499802540>I'll believe you when you can point to a character's age on the status screen.The game already has opaque mechanics (grime).The game is using the suggestion of permadeath as a selling point and as a thematic vibe, so I can only hope they actually plan on making it happen at some point (aside from the player being retarded or causing it intentionally).
>>499802964Early gems tend to err on the side of caution, but the amount of gems you get from the story and dailies shouldn't really change, and they're both very low. Unless the events are way more generous, I could easily see the game being as stingy as 4k a month.
Opaque mechanics are common in japanese games.Have you ever seen a game that shows statistics, numbers and percentages over vague words? Because I haven't.
They should just make the adventurer parties that attack you drop tags.
>>499803243Y'know that'd be pretty based.
What's the bug that lets you see higher levels of a skill?
>>499803243I hope they do another dungeon/zone for it, because we already have bone zone and ore zone.
>>499803243Legitimately, do people not understand the concept of gating?They could have just not included tags in the game. Finish the rank up quest, you can level up again. They put tags in as a content gate. Either you have to wait X weeks, or get X bones. And bones are meant to be gated too.
>>499803131Almost every single one of the gacha games people traditionally point to as being super generous give you stingy dogshit roll income (PriConne in particular literally has you NEGATIVE gem income if you're playing at all efficiently while not in one of the discord circlejerks for arena) and then like 98% of their rolls from limited time events.A lot of later gachas figured out how good it works too since you can use it to bait in seasonal casualfags who log in, roll for stuff, maybe buy a few packs, and then fuck off til the next big event.It's why I've learned to never gauge generosity based of what you get per day anymore, and most of the gacha income charts fags make these days include event rewards
>we want more f2p ways to get tagsyou want the game to die is what you are saying
>>499795226yeah the second time I didn't get ambushed as muchbut now for some reason every time I take a daily request after grade up I get stuck at a black screen and have to restart the game, is that a common bug?
>>499803768Can you remind me when normal character level progression was the make or break for a gacha's monetization system again?
>>499803698i have gate for you, get out and stand outside of it weirdo.noone cares about ur retarted opinions.
>>499802595Bronze exam mobs?
>>499802595Waterworld
>>499803131Nah it won't be that low. We get 900/mo from dailies, 800/mo from weeklies (depending on how the calender works out), 1000/mo from guild points (saving up for the SSR bone should be considered a trap until we see gerald added to the general pool), we got 500/week from savor the risk so 2000/mo if that's consistent with future events, and 200 every 2 weeks from Today's Supplies, which should more or less just loop.So that's 5100 right there, not counting bones. We got a bunch from Special Supplies but that was a release celebration thing and also the stickers cover up the first digit so i can't even count them.
FUCK THE BUNNIES
>>499803768Hm yes obviously the brand new SSR character needs to be useless for uh...682 weeks while we wait on our weekly tags for orihalcum rank.
>>499804057Not that guy but bronze exam is booty blasting me with all this sleep and charm
>>499804390>last words of a man who got BNNUY'd
God imagine how cancerous the next grade-up exam will be
>>499805010I think someone already made it to iron rank earlier, they said it was way easier.
>>499802595stuck underwater?
>>499804238>1000/mo from guild pointsNo. How is 10 bones better than an SSR? Especially while bones are unlimited.Free constant sources are 2k a month. The event doubles that, but when the game isn't bringing in money that'll soon decrease, I could easily see us continuing at 4k, which is what we're already at if you don't factor in the guild points.
>>499805138>>499804191I forgot what was Wizardry all about for a moment
>>499805154Because it's global pool SSRs.
>>499792149please say you're kidding
>>499805379Nope. Don't open monster chests in there. It ain't worth it.
>>499805154He's working on the assumption that it's lgoing to be ike Genshin where basically every single character after release is Limited and won't appear in the regular pool; which just leaves really shitty weak characters in the standard pool
>>499805084Iron boss is a joke.The plan boss from den of earth but, with more hp and can summon mobs that are no issue.The real problem comes from the corridors since they're super tight and the mobs are rather chunky and annoying so it requires you to waste a lot of time to try and navigating around them.
>>499804692I made it dodging every enemy. Being put to sleep and then GAPED by flying fuckers isn't good!!!!
Bro im fucking fucked
mausoleum farming is fucking shit, I would unironically rather spend real life money than do this garbage
>>499805743I believe in you
>>499805743DO NOT REDEEM THE CHEST SIR
Action speed wise, only breakpoints matter. But it's hard to know what those are without knowing the enemy stats.
game crashed during the cutscene after i finally killed himi s2g if i have to redo that fight
>>499805776sounds like skill issue
>>499806065it's a fun issue, at least grinding chest and gold is semi-enjoyable cause I just put auto-run but since map resets everytime I have to babysit this shit
>>499805776Thank you for your service pay piggy.
>>499802307It's inevitable, but screaming faggots and whales that will eventually pay to win will keep the game alive for longer.
>>499806238Seems like you should go back to your waifu autobattler gachas instead cry and moan about wizardry.
>>499805525Yes but it's not just Genshin that does that. Final Fantasy Brave Exvuis, which this game takes a LOT of influence from, in terms of the cash shop, also did it. Though I'd hate to think any modern game is going to be as unapologetically greedy and FOMO as FFBE was.But also consider that for the price of that one SSR bone you're getting 10 limited pulls. We do of course have 6 days before we have to decide whether to get the gems or save. Anyway we'll know for sure once Gerard's banner is gone.
>>499802307What’s going to be funny is when some retard loses his waifu because he couldn’t wait for fort regen and becomes a mega schizoposter.
>>499806408Bro it's ok to admit that mausoleum farming is boring, you don't have to worry about your hardcore gamer status
>>499805776Unironically the most optimal way to get bones, inherit fodder and other stuff is to get a job and just buy the most cost efficient limited packs.Slaving away on Mausoleum for some mealsy chances at bones is a literal waste of your time if you can just use that same amount of time and effort getting money IRL.
>>499806408because I don't want to grind your braindead mode for hours just to get couple SRs? not everyone is a underage neet like you
>>499806501You're right.We need an ariana grande collab like ffbe did.
>>499795875Isn't stationary mobs generally part of some dispatch?
>>499806578All farming is boring. That's why they call it farming.
>>499802307>gacha coomersglad this game has enough hairy muscular dwarfs for you to masturbate to bro
>>499806578You sound mad, did you lose ur waifu by being retarted phonegamer?
>>499806661Don't pretend you didn't pull on her for memes.I wish I saved that picture of Ariana vs 5 bombs in arena.
Is the waterway 1F Harken bugged?
Am I correct in assuming that there's only 1 server and that global and Japanese players play on the same server? Kind of how GBF does it with global players just getting a translation instead of a whole different server? I love the game so far but I'm worried about global getting axed or something since most of the playerbase is from Japan.
this looks good bros?
>>499806661A what now
>>499807179Yeah. Hopefully they just stop wasting money on the translation team and the EOPs start screeching.
>>499807179Its the opposite.Global will never get axed since we are playing on the same server.
>>499807179If you visit tavern, there is sometimes other players party drinking, all of them i have seen were japanese players. You can send friend request by clicking them.I think its 1 megaserver, that´s why early days game was laggy when it was "primetime" in japan.
>>499806501Technically it specifically says that you can roll Wandering Lana and Gerrard from regular bones in the future, but we've seen how that turned out with "Gets an accuracy bonus only when using 2H Swords" Gerulf and "Gets an evasion bonus when using 2H Swords" Gerrard>>499807349Here, now with even more Ariana Grande
>>499807349https://youtu.be/MkjrRs0Y4N0
>>499807553>Technically it specifically says that you can roll Wandering Lana and Gerrard from regular bones in the futureDamn does it? That does kind of change the game a bit. I don't think they'd fuck something like that up. If they did, it'd be compensation for sure.
>>499807467Yup that's what I noticed too. All the maintenance times back on launch day and the emergency maintenance twitter posts coincided with our server too. That's reassuring to hear.
>>499807129Please, need a reply because I'm out of mana for my mage and I ain't going through the map again because those flying leaps hurts.
>>499807553It seemed more like a CYA to allow them to someday put them on standard
>>499807129Try exiting and clearing cache, it should be restorable.
>>499807795I could activate it fine
does anyone happen to know what request has the pickaxe reward?
Just got Alice from adventure bone is this okay?
>>499808039Fuck! Guess I have to leave and come back again.
>>499807349>>499807582Don't forget Katy Perry.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WpMCpjB34Ug
>>499807553>Here, now with even more Ariana GrandeLmao what the fuck
>>499808092I'd bump up that piety for LABADIOS but that's me.I don't think any of us are at the actual level cap so we really have no idea what's good.
>>499808079Finding lambert.
>>499808153They had FOUR different versions of both Ariana and Katy.A.I. Katy was actually kind of busted too, if I remember.
What does the bladeless dagger do?Also I think the weapon swap bug is fixed (atleast going from 2h -> 2h and 1h->1h), swapped like 30 times in b8 and haven't been kicked to the title, worst that's happened it says there is a problem and then retries
>>499808556You need it for a guild quest to get some herb
>>499807553Yoshitaka Amano's art is so fucking ugly these days. His old stuff was good, but now he knows he can phone it in and still make fat cash.
>>499808363thank you
>>499808720That's not art, that's actually what Ariana looks like.
>>499808556I think 2h->2h and 1h->1h was mostly just bugged with that one wind swordI assume 1h->2h is going to end up being intentional, but they're going to put an error message there instead of crashing the game when they (eventually) get around to fixing it
>>499807467You also run into a lot of nip teams on your dispatch reports. Inshalah these guys carry us to a free tenroll gift every now and then.
Is there a wiki?I don't wanna boot up the game just to read the "Help" section
>>499808640thanks>>499808865I was getting the bug 2 days ago trying to swap from royal swords / wind sword to undead banes and huntsman bow to undead which I'm doing fine now
>>499809087I think the rentry in the OP is the best we've got right now.
>>499809087I hope you can read Japanese or like reading MTL, because the best ones are only in japanese
https://files.catbox.moe/hcps12.mp4
>>499809705I like her english voice better, but JP really sells the lolibaba thing.
>2x medium armor den of earth junk from one chestGod damn I should buy a lotto ticket I guess.
I want to do a 10 roll for Lana even tho I already have 3 of them
>>499810283you might have a lana account seed youll never know until you try
>>499810516I don't sadly
Why doesn't this game have an accept all button to claim all daily missions?
>>499810826Because if you accept too fast it bugs out.
>>499808865Nah, it makes sense we can swap from 2h to 1h and vice versa since your equipment are already part of your bag's inventory.I only had crashes with swapping to the pickaxe, never had trouble with 2h to 1h.
>>499810826Nips are like a decade behind the gacha industry, prease understando
>>499808092I think people bumping IQ for a class change they MIGHT get at some undefined point in the future are retards, especially since she'll get a ton of IQ leveling as mage anyway
you uh...you ok there?
>>499811803Same. The whole point of having alice is for her LABADIOS nuke, which you want to pump pie/speed for.
I got Debra and Gerulf when I was already using Amelia and Chloe, so I decided to level them up and compare just to see how different their stats would be at the same level. Shockingly Amelia has the better stat spread, but Gerulf completely mogs Chloe in stats. (ignore attack/defense debra and gerulf have better equipment)
>>499811954chill out Diddy
>>499809705*jobs*
The fuck did they break this time?
>>499810694based luckman
>>499812658your shitty emulator
Is there a checklist or anything of what to do correctly in NG+ and how to do it?
Why is Gerard a knight when everything about him makes it seem like he is supposed to be a fighter?
Inherit or discipline dupe yekas?
>>499813131Because honestly knights kinda suck.
>>499812908the ingame one make sure to do the root quest or ELMON DIES
>>499813293When/where do you get that quest?
>>499813219I'd say inherit. Disciplines are just a minor stat boost.
>>499813265Honestly back row knight with a spear is the best way to play them and they work perfectly fine that way
I met the bone picker in the Port, so he clearly travels from dungeon to dungeon.
>>499812908https://kamigame.jp/wiz-daphne/page/339163879764403502.htmltranslate the page if your browser has that function built in, or use an extension
>>499813546That really sucks.I dont have time nor the desire to try to look for that fuck every day. RIP.
>>499813691Does he spawn in a set location and stay there, or does he have a chance to spawn on whatever map you’re exploring? You only need to find him once a week.
i'm glad the princess learns better quickly, i'd hate for her to be the typical haughty spoiled princess
>>499813546Does he only spawn in your unlocked maps? If I've only unlocked up to 4F, can I find him there everytime?
When did you unlock timerewind on NG? I already beated the floor 2 and fucked up some quests
>>499813886>>499814129My guess would be that he has a random chance to spawn on certain sets of floors every time you enter the dungeon, like treasure chests and other NPC encounters are also randomized
>>499813131the art of deception
Mausoleum got even harder since last time I was thereOn the bright side when I get junk at the end, it turns into steel stuff
>>499814129I think I’m about to unlock it after the soldiers trapped in vines event on B3F
>>499814506Difficulty is based on route, center is the hardest.
Is putting priest on the frontline a good idea or a bad one?
>>499814846You will need to swap weapon every time to cast the spell
>>499814732Same route I always took man
>>499814846The priest has enough health to survive on the frontline. He just won't be as effective as a fighter for hitting. Only real reason to have him there is to leave space for weaker characters in the back row
>>499814846bad, but not completely unfeasible
>>499814846It's both. Priests are more like D&D priests where they get to wear heavier armor and fight well on top of having a good amount of hitpoints, but on the other hand, your healing power will suffer since you want to use a shield then and constantly take care of "yourself". And well, if they're in backline they can dispense buffs more freely and triage when needed, on top of acting as a ranged unit with their spells.
The lazy bums I invited should save the king already
Whats a good game similiar to this to play on steam deck and preferebly offline while I autogrind dungeons and try to level up some members
>>499815750Just use your reroll accounts while you aim for the god seed.
>>499815851etrian odyssey collection
>>499814846bad idea, imagine showing up to bronze exam with your cute frontrow priest and having them instantly knocked down to critical hp AND stunned before anyone can do anythingPriest does not offer any real benefit up there at this time and plenty of situational risk. This might change when we get more access to stuff.
>Lesser Demons can use Call Ally
>>499814846Right now i think the only reason to do it is if you're running an extremely magic heavy team and you have to put SOMEONE there.
>>499806039My game kept crashing whenever I tried to equip pickaxe.I learned that if you forceclose the game if it errors during combat, it'll save on that turn.
>>499816360on my second attempt i killed him before he even got to bring out the row of rocks
>>499815750I’m sorry I keep rolling new people and wanting to level them rather than progressing in the story
>>499813546So if you never progressed past bf1, does that mean you can just easily farm him for bones everyday?
Is the weekly class change item different for everyone?
>>499816528yes
>>499816528Yeah, I have Asha(Mage) and Daniel(Priest) this week
Is the class change completely random or it's a predetermined set each week?
>>499816485There's not much fomo daily wise for gems so you can kinda go at your own pace. But seeing people in their 30s farming better stuff sure triggers it for me.
is the enemy ai random on who it targets? and why does cover sometimes not work, even on melee attacks
>>499816654Kinda tempted to dump another 2k into pulls since I only need 10 more gems, but I'm close to ng+ and I don't know if it's gonna be a class change I want. Sucks that it costs 400 gems though. That basically eats all your pull income for that week (30x7 + 200).
I still fail to see the point in class change.Why would you do it? Is it like somehow enhanced version of the class you're changing into? Do you retain some skills from the previous class?If it's just a clean slate of the new class then what's the point of spending so many gems on just changing a good priest to a good(?) mage, when many mages exist already? am i retarded or missing something obvious here? doesn't changing class make a character inherently weaker, and costs a fuckton of gems?
Finally went back and helped albano and saved the defenders from getting squished, got a bunch of cheevo gems.Did anyone ever figure out Lambert's deal?
>>499817536You wrote this big dumb post without knowing a thing about class changing?
>>499817343>is the enemy ai random on who it targets? It's weighted. There's some kind of aggro system i don't think we've really dived into it.>and why does cover sometimes not work, even on melee attacksBecause you didn't read.
>>499817545Consensus is that it's bugged at the moment.
>>499817545Guide on doing Albano's stuff?
>>499816501No, I’ve met him several times and he only has bones like once a week
>>499817536Class changing gets them access to more passives, it's always a good thing, except for the part where you need another item to change BACK.
How do I access the cursed wheel? I'm already on B4F and got some new info but no idea how to jump back back to the past samurai jack
>>499817343>>499817636Hmm, I'm going to dismiss all my eldoradosThere's few instances where you'd use cover instead of line cover anyway, haven't noticed a chance difference between the twoMaybe cover gets cool perks at higher levels I suppose but I still rarely use either cover anyway
>>499817820You'll get access soon enough.
>>499817820This is why getting spoiled sucks. You should have just continued playing as normally without expectations and let stuff just happen as they should.I pity you losing on the experience about finding about it when everything went to shit.
I just installed the game. NGL I'm having fun trying to figure stuffs out on my own and exploring the dungeon with my generics. What's exactly is the status of the game anyway? And how important is gacha ssr units?
>>499818002>What's exactly is the status of the game anywayBuggy as hell release but not the worst i've seen. You get harken hooks, keep one on you at all times in case you get glitched into a wall or something. Release events might be extended due to bugs.>And how important is gacha ssr units?Not.
Should I just drop all of the points into STR?
>>499815851Stranger of Sword City is probably one of the most similar ones, Experience inc games in general are most similar to this "Classic Wizardry with a few more bells and whistles added to the combat" vibe the game has
Some questions about the second dungeon:When do you need to complete the mermaid statues, and how many are there? When and how do you unlock the doors in the lower floors?Do you have to fight underwater or is it a failstate?Do the later floors have better gear? Didn't notice much difference in the first 5 since you are fishing for water resist and steel shit.
>>499817432Class change for our adventurers probably isn't something we'll be doing often or lightlyWhat bugs me more is how RNG it is more than the price but I hope they have alternate means of getting them in the futureFirst couple weeks of a gacha are rarely indicative anyway
>>499817631>>499817795examples?
>level up>stats go downHope you don't get bricked, guys.
>>499818281>When do you need to complete the mermaid statues, and how many are there?>When and how do you unlock the doors in the lower floors?Keep playing the game and you'll find out.>Do you have to fight underwater or is it a failstate?Generally no you do not have to fight under water but, there are some mobs that force you later on.>Do the later floors have better gear? Didn't notice much difference in the first 5 since you are fishing for water resist and steel shit.No.
>>499818281>water resistuh oh. might wanna read the traits on the blue gear again.
>>499785145nopan?
>>499818002SSR makes the grind much easier as on demand aoe, lower mp cost, regaining sp and hp regen after battle let's you last longer in dungeon and fight more battles before returning back to town. You can beat the beginner chapter just fine without any SSR, just takes a bit more time to grind up.
>>499818401oh nothis is too much wizardry
How big is Gerulf's eruption strike damage bonus if you use a two-handed hammer with it?
My wife is tolerant
>>4998176961. do request for his uncle asking for metal, it's either b4/b5 near the steps, ent fight1a.return to town and turn in2. tell uncle he looks like albano3.get letter4. return to abyss, DON'T give letter to dylanhart, talk to albano instead5.Get second request from uncle, it's find a mimic on B5 in a room(doesn't appear on map)6. have front row to defend to put an opening on the mimic, makes whoever attacks the opening do insane damage7. Go to B3, find two flowers around the level8.return to town, complete request9. return to labyrinth10. you'll talk to albano, he won't transform laterThis is the long way, otherwise you can just give the letter to dylanhart and he'll fuck off as well, but he'll hate you and you won't get the achievements.I also haven't tried to give the sachet to him earlier in the trade yet.
>>499818983Wow, Thank you that was a lot more than I was epxecting..Very annoying to do all this just to get his bond.Hope his bond is worth it.
>>499818401Still better than this
>>499817974aorry, I'm just traumatized by accidentally bricking myself and hard committing to choices that inevitably doom my playthroughs
no way i just spent everything on a useless skinwhat the fuck is this game about
>>499818590Decided to test it out myself with weapons with near identical damage, holy fuck this damage boost is massive. Left is with a spear, right is with a two-handed hammer. I've kept Gerulf on the back to keep getting the lana damage boost but this is far more worth it.
>>499807269LuckGOD I believe in you
>>499819737>45% damage boostGod damn. is it the same against higher/lower defense enemies? I'm curious if it adjusts your initial attack power or just multiplies final damage.
>>499820002No idea, some other anon will have to test that out.
Gonna ask here since you guys might know, but does anyone know if there's any game with character building and gear farming autism like this that isn't a gacha? Has to be anime styled btw
>>499818401>gain retard strength>become dumberchecks out!
>>499816654>Yeah, I have Asha(Mage) and Daniel(Priest) this weekwtf how I only have one option
>>499820410Seems random. I've only gotten one a week too. Last week was Debra(Knight), this week it's Marianne(Priest)
>>499820362Etrian oddesy, labyrinth of refrain seires
>>499820362literally just check steam by blobber tag and anime styled
>>499819737He's probably one of the better candidates for nuking bosses debuffed with opening. >Useless skill for others so he can focus on discipline if you ever get duped.>Discipline increases surety(doesn't count as all stat) unlike others>Accuracy for 2h weapons>More strength than othersOnly thing I'm not sure is if a 2h axe's defense pen would be better than blunt bonus or not.
>>499820362Labyrinth of touhou
Am I right in assuming class changing, by the end game, is essential for maximizing strength?Take thief, for instance. It gains passive critical up (surety or w/e) which persists through characters. That means anyone who does physical damage benefits.
>>499820362> Has to be anime styled btwEtrian. Bigger emphasis on skills and party synergy, less emphasis on gear (no stat rng), 1000% more anime.
>>499818216She's a frontliner so 20 Str 17 Vit sounds goodShe does have a problem with accuracy tho
>>499820678I don't think we have end game yet but class changing gives you bonuses with no downside, yeah
>>499819272I didn't get a bondmate for it.
>>499818983Interesting Should I do the first part before or after he picks up the flower?
>>499820362>>499820481>>499820947>Play Etrian Odyssey 2 Untold: The Fafnir Knight for the 3ds>go only healers>use Vital Hitenjoy
>>499821373I did it after i think, I don't know if it changes anything.
Ok i think the new update massively increased the drop rate of this shit. I farmed for DAYS without getting any earlier.
>>499819737If I put him front I would lose both lana buff and alice buff, I think I just want some other range dps
>>499821454Kinda like the all caduceus run of EO1?
Why am I getting this? Doesn't seem like my password has changed when I asked for it again. And the account inputting it haven't used anyone's password yet.
>>499818401Chat is this real?
IM IN
My tavern code, fellow Memento Cor!wkfhRnF8uGXKzVYN
>>499822143Here's a password for you and all newfagsVaf3p9ZzijFTMFDT
>>499822143That is extremely concerning. If even the link data option isnt' working we might be looking at a complete relaunch
Where's the gold exploit. I grinding gold
>>499822143I had a similar issue inputting a password yesterday, I think there's a time limit on when you can input a referral code. Is your account older than a week?
>lead grade examWas that supposed to be hard? Because it really wasn't. I just Metal Gear'd through the stage to save my resources, cleared the boss' summons with Adam's nuke, debuffed him with action speed down and armor break level 3 and hit him with everything I had. He summoned some more mooks but went down before really posing any threat. Only had one mage, didn't need fireball scrolls or anything, I still had MP at the end of the fight. He did seem immune to Delay Attack but it wasn't a huge issue.
How the fuck do I cure curse?
This game is unironically too hard for its own good. It will filter so many retards, a gacha game filtering retards is simply bad business.
>>499803837just happened to me
Port 6F question: does the water god statue that controls the boss room also corrupt over time? This entire floor has been a buggy mess for me where water god statues can only be reverted once despite the reversal state being temporary. The overworld also doesn't actually reflect whether or not a section is flooded after reversing a corrupted water god statue, so I can't even be entirely certain how long I have until a flooded section floods up again.
>>499822858The password I'm trying to use has already been used by another account a couple of days earlier.Acc1 <swap> Acc2 Acc2 <use Acc3 (get picrel)
>>499823119you go back to the temple
Why this medium poly artstyle is so rare nowaday? It's either hyper realism ugly or full anime
>>499823119temple or lvl 29 priest.
>>499790840>If wizardry was as big as it was in the West as it was in the JapanIt was
>>499823219Yeah, but I think the message is mistranslated. I can't remember exactly what it was now, but when I tried to add someone with a password on my launch day account yesterday, it didn't go through because MY account had hit some kind of time limit for passwords. I think you can only use someone's referral code within the first few days.
>>499823176I believe the boss room statue doesn't corrupt over time, but it is scripted to flood after a set number of turns during the fight. I don't know for sure, but both times I ran the fight the flood started about the same sort of time.
I want to lick Alice's elf armpits
>>499822527Elise feels like a half-elf
tip for your dailies:if the cursed doll runs away you can close the app and restart and get another shot at the fight with it staying around
>>499823437The code im trying to use is on its 6d loginThe account trying to use it is like over a week old though.
>>499823864I wondee if you can force one to spawn that waySometimes there's no doll
>>499815937>>499818245thanks anons
>>499823939Yeah, the problem is the account trying to use it. I've had people use my launch day account's password with no issue yesterday, but I can't use anyone else's password on my launch day account because there's a time limit on when you can use a password.
How effective is buying something and then having your credit card chargeback? Will you get banned you think?
>>499823627same
>>499824343You will probably get banned.
>>499820591>blobber tagwish this actually existed, "dungeon crawler" as a tag is completely useless because tons of roguelikes of all gameplay types get tagged with it>>499820362they're not super anime style but indies that do this pretty well: Crystal Project (basically open world FFV), Timebreak Chronicles (basically an FF with set job characters + Slay the Spire, lots of party building autism)
>>499824343It will absolutely get you banned, and it will get your credit card banned. Game devs do not fuck around with this.Only ever do this when a game EOSs.
>>499822527
>>499820362Not anime styled, but path of exile.
what's the exp grind method again? Grind b8 quest but just leave after first pack?
>>499822574this bitch just instagibbed my mates and i failed to revive them
>>499824934Yeah that defend button isn't just for decoration.
>>499824761The biggest issue with XP grinding for me is downtime. Having to leave, switch my MC off the class to rest at an inn and then come back is slow as shit.Best farm in my mind is still fixing B7F and then just doing a loop with a fast nuke mage and resting at the fountain so you don't have to worry about levelling up and nerfing your XP gain. It's fairly easy to level 4 guys at a time, 5 if you're willing to not level your MC too or you have enough damage to not worry about possible stragglers.
we did it boys
>>499795836What are the chances that Kristel is a sexual deviant?
Do you get an IQ or Piety Guiding Light in the second dungeon to make MC a mage or priest or is that just not in this version?
>Yekatarina is the only earth mageThat's slightly annoying for building full element teams. Dino should have been earth.
>>499821274Found a guide on the discord.complete quest to get special metal alloy, get letter to dismiss albano, talk to him instead, tell the client how resentful albano is, go get glowstone from a very strong mimic in B5F, use the glowstone to search fluorescent flower in B3F - B4F, return and make albano meet the client, albano get special armor and his mom's satchel, albano no longer transform in B7F, complete the dungeon, and talk to him in edge of town after that to get his bondmate - He increases defense and paralyze tolerance, and is fire elementI think you mentioned before how you didn't give him the satchel that should fix it or perhaps you haven't gone to edge of town?
managed to get back and what the fuck is thiswhy do i need to spend gems to revive my mateswhat happens if i fail with golds instead?
>>499825446I don't think anyone has posted an IQ or PIE light yet. Japan hates mages.>>499825512Just throw them in storage until their fortitude recovers. Raising with gold at yellow fortitude can fail, and if you fail twice the character is deleted.
>>499825446I've got both the IQ and Piety lights, haven't used them yet though. Think you get at least 1 of them from the final boss.
grrrr I wanna rolllll
>>499825840do it
>>499783473And that's a good thing
>>499825645a gacha game with permadeath?ok this is epic
>>499825862No I must be good
>>499825971sAvOr ThE rISk
>>499826079But what if you'll get another Lana anon
>>499825971>>499826113DID I HEAR SOMEBODEH SAYRRRRIIIIIIIIISSSSSSSSSSSSKKKKK????????
lmao, I love the port priest, he talks like a dunmer, and yes, he also voices the murmur pray chant invoke thingy
How to increase instant death resist?
>>499826637bunny bondmate, being evil and adjacent to Galina, uhhh I think that's it so far unless there's some obscure gear with a bonus to it
>>499826637The vorpal bunny bondmate
I am sorrybros... As much as I may like the classic games, I don't know if I can go back to static png blobbers after this...
>>499826637there's nodes in well of mind for it
Add me bros: 8737966554zmysXAxYPiPyuyGQ"Riskbreaker" is not working
>>499826968I'm fine with EO level of presentation, or even just PNGs, but this game's atmosphere and party models really adds something unique
there's literally no way to reasonably farm goldupping an item to +5? 5k gold?average gold per chest in port town (if you even get gold/items) is like 500
>>499823605>boss room refloods anywayI really do think it should be legal to kill whoever was responsible for designing this entire floor. I think this might actually be tied to HP and not turn count, since I managed to blitz through at least 1500HP before he reflooded on turn 3. Unfortunately half of that damage came from my casters and I couldn't kill him faster than he could kill my party (not having a healer is FUN). The worst part is that I brought scrolls, but figured I'd just use them on clearing out trash mobs so that I could use the fountain and fight the boss at full SP and MP.
>>499827375better grind now it now, it's gonna be 250 after sell-item bonuses run out
>>499827375>>499827505I have 200k right now bros its not that hard, just continue the port quest and get the chests / loot after battle
Wonder what's the next bonus event.We had trade-in items, so more junk or more xp in battles would be nice.
>>499817974Time travel is pretty obvious first time on B3F and there were even hints for it with dead adventurer knowledge on B1F. Cursed wheel giving the convenience of choosing a specific point to jump to instead of needing to beat Helmut each time for a full reset isn't too much of a surprise either.
>>499827460Just give everyone full den of earth gear, surely you can farm that all week right?
Are there any top-left objectives/gem rewards after rescuing the king? Mine bugged out and was stuck until I just cleared the entire beginning abyss again. I'm at the port town now and haven't gotten any objectives since.
>>499827581I literally upgraded like 4 weapons to +10 bro and used up 80k, that 200k isn't gonna gear up half your party
>>499817631>>499817795Class change is only good if the roles overlap, a fighter respecing into a thief is broken but a wizard would be useless. Alternatively characters whose statlines are made for their changed class like all the fighter/knight elves.
Seriously?
>>499828132>but a wizard would be uselessdo stats influence buffs/debuffs? If not then I could see the benefit for class changing from wiz to fighter
>>499828243You love to see it.
>>499828243Levitationbros???
>>499828246>do stats influence buffs/debuffs?Yes, Magic power influences debuff rate. A melee won't have the mana to spam spells anyway and vice versa.
>>499828132Thief/Mage would benefit from increased action speed and more SP for Mental Acuity. Plus whatever the special passive of the unit is, like Viviana's evasion bonus for wearing cloth.
>>499828383ok, not that great though like 2 or 3 aoe buffs during a bossfight wouldnt be completely useless
>>499826968>I thought Dungeon Crawlers weren't for me because i saw Legends of Grimrock and the absolute lack of models or animations put me off.>EO was fine, a solid 7/10 nice portraits but it was still lacking somethingThen Wizardry showed me all the missed potential of the other games, with full 3d models showing up in battle doing their attacks, multiple animations, the first person perspective of you attacking, how the knight steps in front of you to cover you from attacks, how your party interacts with you on the map, etc.It wasn't that Dungeon Crawlers were bad, its that they never bothered to innovate. I fucking hope this game suceeds and revives the genre.
>>499827897I just rescued him and I don't have any objectives now either
>>499827834much faster to just bring a bunch of gravel scrolls, the boss is an absolute bitch though
>>499828243OOPS!
>>499828398You are never going to play out a fight long enough for the extra sp to matter. Thief passives are nice but that's just tiny stat increases.>>499828486Or you could buy debuff scrolls instead of wasting your main dps turn debuffing.
This thread is interesting. Is this what happens when the gate keeper takes a day off?
If I had to guess, Class Changes will happen in an almost final fantasy manner where you need like, 50 levels fighter 50 levels knight to be able to be a Lord, 50 levels Thief 50 Levels Mage to be a Ninja, etc. In Wizardry proper it's stat-gated but stats are pretty ballooned here so it probably wont be that.
>>499828763True, but you have to remember, these aren't custom characters. If they have a class to change to, they're DESIGNED to be that class.
>>499828518I love EO and I'd rate my favorites of them (5 and 2U) more highly than this, but it's really damn good and far better than I expected from a mobile only gacha wizardry game
>>499828518I got halfway across EO3 before quitting. The base gameplay loop is good enough, but the complete lack of animations really just kills it for me. Wizardry is definitely a step above and the animations really makes you care about your party of nameless adventurers.
>>499828636I didn't fuck with that chest, I can just imagine triggering double traps into an enemy encounter.Debra didn't see the trap on the other chest in that pic and got feared, so Adam took over chest duty and fucking killed it
There's a goblin bondmate available right? Should I try to get it before beating the 8th floor boss? I've given the goblin coins around 4 times already
I need the best gold/hour method NOW
jp bros what is this
>>499829381Twin pearls
>>499829367Buy the packs from the gem store. It's very fast.
>>499829264Goblin bondmate is a one or the other thing, you have to take the orphan to the goblin nest and hand her over to one of the goblin npcs in there. If you return to town at any point you get locked into her bondmate instead.
Two chests can spawn in the same square. But it's bugged, i can't open the second chest.
>>499829420Thanks, sounds like an accessory, and the one I just got was trash. I've heard the shields bad so I guess I'll go church since I've seen no discussion on its reward and it's a book so might be good?
Is Mermaid's secret good for anything but the one (bad) quest?
Thoughts on my mute wife?
>>499829584>you have to take the orphan to the goblin nest and hand her over to one of the goblin npcs in therewhat the fuck
I got a near-lv20 Good/Neutral Elf team for dispatches almost done.I want to make a Evil team now. I have>Adam - Light Mage>Amelia - Fire Thief>Gandolfo - Dark Fighter>Gallina - Earth PriestAre there any Water/Air Neutral or Evil Knights?
>>499829584>>499830025Hot...
>>499828243>>499829064Good thing you left it alone because you can't open chests that are on the same tile as traps/poison. Yes I learned it the hard way.
>>499829584It's just like my Japanese hentais
>>499825473Dino gets earth as his second element
>>499825473>>499831419Mages learn two elements
Goddammit
>>499831540>>499831419yes but you would take less damage from the water dungeon if they were earth element.
>>499831540Except Adam.
Are you supposed to not be able to restore the Harkens on Port 7F and the ship?
>>499832417Holy fuck so it wasn't just me. I'm clearing cache right now to see if it fixes the issue.
Uhh bros, nobody told me adventurer bones can drop in Den of Earth
>saved up 500 junkI dread having to extract all of this garbage 1 by 1
>>499833115Adventurer bones can drop from any chest.The % is just stupidly low, though somehow it seems better than some shit I am meant to farm in other gachas I used to play...
And I was playing fine just before too...
>>499832960It didn't do jack shit. I'm just going to leave myself in front of the harken and check back tomorrow.
>>499833710Well that's unfortunate. When I couldn't restore the Harken at the docks I thought it was weird, but figured there might be some sort of story explanation (and also didn't care very much because there's nothing on that floor). Now that I've fought through another floor of enemies, I care quite a lot more about being able to get back to town without backtracking through whatever enemies that might have slipped past my party's Detect (especially any trios of Lizardman Champions)
>>499833450They are already struggling to solve bugs, I can't imagine we will get new features any time soon...Hire me drecom, I am a programmer and I am looking for a new job right now.
I have 80k exp. How much is level 20?
>>499834031I managed to restore the port harken by tapping at it from a different side. Not much I can do about this one on the ship sadly.
What's the highest tier that's grindable right now? Steel?
>>499825489Nothing in edge of town or the abyss entrance. Even tried killing helmut again and nothing.
anything i should know before taking my first grade up test? do i lose the tag if i fail or leave?
>>499830009>Asha
>>499834395Elemental is higher than steel i think
I can't seem to repair the 1st floor harken in the waterway so I need to know how far it is to the harken on the 2nd floor.
>>499834875All of the Harkens in the second dungeon are at the very end of the floor. On the bright side, this makes running through the dungeon to collect treasure a lot easier.
>>499832417>>499834875Are harkens just fucked at the moment?
>>499835164Oh fuck me. Because I can't tell if the entire dungeon is bugged and I won't be able to unlock any of the harken even if I do make it to the 2nd floor harken. I don't want to waste a hook on a bug.
how do you save maurice? my elmon is unharmed but when I send her to help him they still die
>>49983430680k.https://gamerch.com/wizardry-daphne/877807
I bet dwarves' beards are greasy as fuck.The only reason I can think of as to why they don't catch fire.
>>499835653Kill shit faster.
>>499835653have to go back to and fight the first lesser warped one again, then send in the defenders.
Where is the purple garlic merchant?
good enough?don't really know what stats mages need outside of IQ
Newfag who started yesterday, how do dupes work in this game? I also have the other Lanavaille, is there some sort of thing with alts to consider?
>>499836695IQ for magicVit for max HPSpeed for turn orderLuck for status % chance
>>499836868>Luck for status % chanceSo we're just making shit up now huh
>>499836760You can>Use dupes as normal, for spare party members>Feed them to other characters to Inherit Skills>Feed them to same characters to upgrade their Discipline I would just keep them safe for now.
am i crazy or is item locking reset on its own now?
>>499835826that was it, cheers
>>499836695I think some anons recommend VIT for everything, but I wouldn't put anything in it for mages, they will be squish regardless.I would go 50/50 speed an IQ I think.
I really feel like a hypocrite choosing what to tell my allies what they like instead of my own opinions.
>>499834683Where do you get elemental gear?
>>499837303Den of earth and there's some in the port town too.
>>499837331Ah I haven't hit up DoE yet because I thought it was just for ore and haven't needed to upgrade past +4 / want to get some good base gear I can feed all these smithing stones I have before I go to +5Cheers
I read that Lana healing falls off later, is it because healing becomes a non-issue after early game?
>>499837179I've had some undead bane weapons locked since a week ago and I had to unlock some today to unify, so no, not for me.
>>499837752well i think a lot of people have been sleeping on den of earth because the drop rate was SHIT until today.it's still not great but i've been getting 1-2 per run
>>499837831It heals 12HP every fightYour max HP gets +300 later.Shrimple as that but in my experience you fight like 2x more sometimes so it's still useful, great at keeping up chip damage.
>>499837831We have 200-300+ hp at level 30. 12hp isn't that much, but it does add up when enemies start going aoe on your ass. One less potion/heal used means you can explore longer.
>>499837831No it is because this game is ass and her passive healing is static instead of %.So at higher levels, 12hp is barely anything.If you feed her dupes it can go up to 44hp heal I think? Which at the point even the highest level players are right now, should still be a respectable amount, but it will surely fall off as well.
>>499837831It's like 60 hp if you can max it out with dupes but that's something for longterm
pier bros?
>>499832417Yeah that was a weird one, I had to activate it from the north side since it didn't work from the west and south sides.
>>499838261So you just Harken there over and over again until he appears? Do you need to leave the dungeon?
>>499838261>dailyI literally see that cunt like 10 times a day and he doesnt sell bones
So are mages just dead weight once they run out of MP? I guess the obvious solution would be to just preserve spells until you need them. Also are priests fronline or backline units? Their supporting nature makes them feel like the latter but seeing as the wield maces and shit they seem like the former.
>>499838906Priests can do either.And yeah mages are basically dead weight. Give them some items to toss around.
>>499838906You can carry around scrolls, but yes. It feels very brutal early on but as they get AoE abilities nobody else gets they become very useful mid and late.
>just got to ng+>Say an urgent request>took it>game crashes trying to load the fight>keeps crashing Ah...this is the bugged one, isnt it?
>>499838906I only stopped hating my priest and mage around level 25 or soThat is when they get enough MP to actually cast shit through a whole floor (and it is around the point they get the MP reduction passive as well).
>>499839219Try clearing cache. The only bricked one we know of is "Defend my shop from goblins" in the port town, which isn't urgent.
>>499830567One time I had an enemy on a fixed spawn chest and it dropped its own chest on defeat. Opening the dropped chest then rendered the fixed chest unusable until I reentered the floor, so it seems like they've got some sort of event consumption issue in their code.
So when should I start caring about Discipline and Inheritance?
>>499820362if you want wizardry but japanese, made by people who worked on actual jp wizardry games, try the elminage games.
>>499840126if you don't like the portraits the game has, you can insert your own into the game to do dumb shit like this.
>>499840039You can basically not worry about discipline or inheritance at all since there's no content hard enough to make them necessary yet.
>>499840039Not until the very end of the content, there's nothing hard enough to need it yet, and there's so many ways to increase stats that you're generally better off farming equips/levels/enhancement mats then wasting money or slowly grinding the mausoleum for dupes.
Hhhhhmmmm
>>499839331That fixed it! Thanks, anon.
so somehow i ended up with two extra alice.instead of disciplining her, wouldn't it be better to either upgrade her skill or give it to somebody else?
>>499841210I didn't buy it and he leftIf anyone bought it, what was it?
>>499841385Junk
Do I have to think to play this game?
>>499841385i got junk out of it.
>>499841485A little bit. Reading is more important than thinking.
>>499841210hmm yes quite generous hopefully its a lute
>>499841380One instance of her skill is valuable for a lot of classes/characters, so just one to the MC wouldn't be terrible probably, would make his armor break last a turn longerBut mages or thieves also have debuffs
What's a good figher to put in her place when Lana starts falling off later? Someone like Barbara? Or do I keep Lana because of her passive damage buff?
>>499841870Just class change Lana to fighter.
>already at 36/50 adventurersI don't wanna delete people!
The servers are fucking shitting themselvesWhen the game is "communicating", and you're frozen, enemies can still fucking move and get you ambushed
>>499842161s-sovl...
What are the chances that these fucking nips coded this such that every single action sends a request to the server? I'm getting a static noise and slight lag for simple actions like ending combat or opening chests. How can a nation that is so good at designing games be such fucking dogshit developers. Boggles the mind.
>>499842161savor the risk
>>499842236pretty good considering that's how every gacha game is.
>>499842236First and foremost: Japanese games are good because they are first and foremost artists.
>>499842236Guess they are afraid of people making modded apks or something? Only reason as for why I think any company would do that.
>>499842662It's so you can't savescum and potentially get out of paying gems.
>>499842398Software is an art or at the very least a craft and for a country that has such high standards for craftsmanship I don't understand why all their software is so bad.>>499842713You can't buy gems in dungeons, so just batch the requests when the player is in a dungeon....
>>499842236Hmmm, I had a communication error in a dungeon with a green enemy discovered (and unaware of where I was at the time), I decided to restart the app but when I came back I was in a fight with somehow the game "paused" (I've never saw that before).Didn't care much about that but now that's making me think, does it means even when a player is disconnected inside a dungeon, the server still has it's instance active and is doing it's own thing? Seems pretty inefficient to me.>>499843045Because why care about software when you can draw anime tiddies?
Do the B6F statues maintain their state from a previous successful crossing to B7F? I was doing the zealot quest and ended up with the correct answer because the solution was elves and, thinking they would all default to broken, went through without checking.
>>499843164It's not an MMO. it's more likely that the game was still running for a little bit before properly closing because mobile operating systems are garbage at actually managing tasks.
>>499843292I was playing on bluestacks.By restarting the app I meant closing the instance on task manager and opening another since it's faster (at least for me).
>>499843221No, and in fact the solution itself might be a different one too.
>waterworld 1f harken bugged>clear cache doesn't work>despite clearing the floor, enemies respawnedI'm really savoring it!
The Royal Ring you get from Pulgritte for doing the Walnuts Quest is worth 6000 gold... Is this farmable? You can just keep repeating the quest can't you ? Or is the reward one time.
>>499843605one time
Has anyone had success farming priest mausoleum? I got junk like 10 times in a row after getting every bone.
>>499842236This is how it works and I can't savescum because of it.
>>499841870Lana doesn't fall off, her stats are in the same ballpark as any other character, but she has a 10% row damage buff if you fulfill the requirementsSo far I haven't run into anything where a knight feels super required instead of a fighter, but they have some neat stuff that I can see being useful in tough fights
>>499843793Bwo, she falls off in the second abyss since she's weak to water...
>>499843793Stun attack is really good. It's about the same damage as heavy attack if you've been keeping their gear up to date.
>>499843793Knights are for shit hits the fan moments and really scary bossesThey work pretty well then if not for the fact that their skills are RNG>>499843907that shit has come in clutch so many times (and also failed me as many times)
Okay so I saved everyone, kicked Albano out of the party, gave Dylanhardt the shield, and goes some weird mandagora root. What else do I need to do to save the king? IIRC during the first fight he died after the second attack or something.
What I played>Wizardry Variant DaphneWhat I got>>>
>>499844143You're good to go
Almost got my shit pushed in on the first boss. Thought for sure I was going to have a party wipe. Going to take a more conservative approach and make sure I'm overwhelmed before going after the next one.
>>499844143You just need to save the unique NPCs.I got Albano killed and didn't get the request for the root and still got to continue.
Why is rtx turning on and off in 4th district
>>499843494Yeah I know the solution changes which is why I checked for it. Since I thought the statues all start off broken, I wanted to make sure 6 broken statues wasn't the answer so that I could repair one if needed. Maybe the quest sets the statues to the correct answer by default?
>>499837259Me but irl
Pure unfiltered kino
Wow so if you run out of fortitude doing a trap it'll trigger and fear you even if you have attempts left.
>>499844180The communicating delays have been getting worseWhat the fuck is happeningIt's taking seconds to process actions now
Impressive.But check this out:
>>499843896Bwo your single Den of Earth armor piece?
>>499844808>What the fuck is happeningNips are awake
>>499820362Maybe Buriedbornes 1/2 if you're not against being a single character instead of party-based.
You guys are making me nervous because the game is running fine for me so far
Does the Sword of the Breeze also defensively changes the character's element or only it's attacks?>>499845065What would you say it's their prime time? At least on weekends so I can plan my time better and enjoy it more.Kinda weird knowing my thursday is already friday for them.
Big
>>499845241only attacks.
I just think it makes really no fucking sense to also send a request to the server when you close the equipment/status/inventory screen.
>>499845261>still not deadGod damn those things are tanky.
>>499845241>What would you say it's their prime time?I don't know, but if the audience is mostly boomers I expect weekends will be rough until maybe mid-Sunday? So far on weekdays I've noticed more communicating in our morning (their after work hours).
>>499845261imagine having a centaur as one of your teammates or like the back row has to ride it
People were saying Iron Grade wasn't that bad but this map is obnoxious and the enemies are insanely annoying. I'm sure the boss itself is easy but fuck this is giving me the most trouble just finding it.
>>499845389its clear they hired some bros that have no idea what they signed up for the game was down for an entire day on release
>>499845774get charmed and slept nerd
>Studio 2PROSo these guys haven't worked on anything else?Actually hoping this game does well for them.
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>>499845261Gerulf permanently carrying a hammer on his back threw me off when I saw it early on.>I didn't equip that??
>>499845389Not just that, but I've noticed most if not all menu screens send communications when you open or close them.Yes, it even happens with the settings menu.
>>499845874The director was alumni from Acquire and worked on Akiba's Trip of all things according to the Daphne website.
>>499824045By the way, with SoSC, there's two versions on steam.The more expensive one is based on the Vita version with updates, extra content, new classes, etc.But seeing how both have Mixed reviews I can't say which one you should play.
What should my priority be after beating Helmut?I tried to "Grade Up" I can't get to the boss of the grade up mission without busting all my resources.I upgraded my 2nd tier weapons (not bronze) to +5. However, they are all whites. Where do I farm my next set of gear? Do I progress in the Beginner's Abyss?
>>499846048You can get to the boss of the lead grade exam without fighting many enemies, just have to get them to go down different forks. Often they'll do that after their aggro resets.There's two spawn locations and the more convenient one is just north of the spawn.
I'm only getting 1h maces, 1h axes and greatswords of undead bane.I just want some daggers and maybe a bow, is it really too much to ask?
Reliable gold farm when doko
>"Adventuring is so fun!"No it isn't you dumb footwhore. My party is getting mindbroken and dying. Now give me a ghost blowjob while I'm adventuring, and then maybe I'll agree with you.
>centaur ambush be like
>>499845847Savor the feets
>>499846884Weirdly enough the centaur has been the least of my troublesIt's the standard ass skeletons that periodically have really high initiative despite not ambushing me, who then proceed to chain OHKO my thief with instakills
>Maousoleum mage skelly OHK's Olive with his stickT-thanks...
Nice
How can I switch to Japanese voices and keep English text
>>499847162Well you could make two different accounts and play on both devices simultaneously with one on mute.But you don't.
>>499847162No. Savor the superior japanese coding folded over 1,000 times.
holy shit game give me some god damn gloves and boots i've got a billion fucking helms.
>>499846884Huh? So I can only resurrect one in battle?Do I just leave the corpse resting and go to the church later?
Fucking hell I'm using a 90 mentality philiph because he's the only one that works with Elise and Alice since I have no Debra.And I have to say, anons really weren't kidding when they said thieves should have 100 mentality else they are garbage.I don't know what I'll do in the future if I pull a 80 or 90 mentality Debra.
Yekaterina and Alice have fucking atrocious designs.Which is weird because even generics and other named women have to tier outfits and design.Yekaterina could be salvaged by simply removing Doctor. But Alice is really the greatest offender.
>>499844143Yo, saving albano gets you the luck lamp to unlock more skill tree on mc so do that.I'm also currently doing it since I also found out, so I'm trying to redo b7 with albano still alive in the party to properly trigger saving the king with albano alive.
>>499847259too much effort
>>499847587If you ever get the named guys that have trap disarm / trap evade as skills just have MC inherit them and he can be the backup thief since no fort
>>499847926(You) have fucking atrocious design, get bent
>>499847926Sadly this is all too common in gacha games. The trash characters have sensible, attractive designs, the guys you're supposed to pay for are overdesigned Final Fantasy wannabes.
IMPORTANT ANNOUNCEMENT:Sex with LanaThanks
>>499847926Only problem with Alice is the flying headYeka looks fine with doctor
>>499848364but I like my Lulu with belts on top of each other....
>>499847926Isn’t Alice the developer favored character though? She had the most difference in her class change outfit
>>499827120>"Riskbreaker" is not workingSomeone else changed the password and stole the url, and now I learned about making an edit-only password.>https://rentry.org/SavoryRiskEdit code: m:Daphne
>>499849006She just gets a hat
So, I've broken now the Iron Grade and I'm noticing nobody seems to have locked skills for 40+. Do skills just end here? I suspect this is the end of the content even if you can keep leveling up, but I'm not sure if there even is a next grade. Someone approaching 50 can better find out.
>>499849058Can't say im surprised theres always gotta be at least one mud monkey.
Fucking Creeping Coins killed my mageTWICEAlso don't bring mages to fight them since they have high magic resistance
>>499849402If they wanted to be more evil they could've wiped the page, too. I guess that would've been too obvious.
>>499849446Anon? You might just be weak.Post gear.
>try to have the whole party go save Maurice>rocks fall everyone dies
>>499849345Highest skill I've seen is 40Pretty sure you can grind all the way to orichalcum which would be like, 90? but yeah there's not much point right now since content ends after port town and good luck getting the tags
I have finally reached Helmut. And without a single death on my entire dungeon adventure. I hope it will stay that way. Time to find out.
>>499849748Well now I feel dumbForgot I was about to mausoleum dive with another mage
>>499849754Remember anon Elmon only died cause she was injured before.No injury should change something!Also if you can only save him if your skirmishers are alive to back her up.
>>499828518>3d with character animationsI think the problem is that you can't exactly make a gigantic boss look impressive in this game because of this. In other games you could be fighting some gods with the size of the twin towers but if you do this in this game, you are just gonna poke at his face on a magical platform at best.
>>499849754Elmon went over successfully last time, her only problem is that she got injured on B1F so why didn't you send her in again?Does the game block you? I picked send everyone, took a step back and then when I went to cross it asked me again and Elmon showed up as a "new" option even though I'm pretty sure that was already available the first time.
>>499850019Gigantic bosses are garbage in most games though because for some reason japs don't understand adaptable camera zoom
>>499849754But you got 20 gems out of it.
>>499850019I'm fine with that tradeoff because the coolest bosses have always been other people sized thingswonder if we're ever going to fight that evil church knight
>>499850095If you insist on sending everyone, the bridge collapses and kills everyone.
I might just brick myself and stick with wanderer, can't be bothered farming fighter MC up to level 33
JffsmgdtjdnfwjaczzzyknoztmcmgzzbjJrdtnkn I equipped a pickaxe midfight guess what happenedFuckThisShit
>>499850231It still asks you even if you walk forwards instead of back like I did?
>>499850461Skill issue
>>499850393anon, no
>>499849932Anon....>>499850393Remember lower levels get way higher exp gains.You stay lvl 1 put yourself in back row go farm b7 and b8 rest at spring rinse and repeat and you should be back up to same level as before in actual no time.
>>499848224>If you ever get the named guys that have trap disarm / trap evade as skillsFor chests, you specifically just want Trap Disarm and Trap Detect (can't disarm if you can't spot it first).
>>499850461Savour the risk...
>>499850531Too late, I've already bricked myself again by doing mausoleum runs and getting him to 16
>>499849939>>499850095Yeah don't worry I just find new dialogue options irresistible.
>>499850231You also get an achievement for doing this, so do it.
>>499850461Someone needs to add a warning to the OP that if you get an error when switching weapons, IMMEDIATELY close the game without touching anything and relaunch to avoid a fight reset.
>>499850736Should also add other common bricks, problems and locksSuch as the defend, for example
>>499850695>>499850202Ha yes this game only encourages curiosity and autistic completionism
>>499850019>>499850159How I remember games doing it
>>499851118This is what happens when you give the MC a rewind power. You're suppose to do the dumbest shit possible.
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>6k gems>no legendary unitsa risky endeavor without savor
>was about to win against helmut (probably)>equip pickaxe>error>is sent back to the start menu>have fight restarts from the beginning afterwardsIt better not crash again.
>>499850531From what I've seen, leveling to 20 doesn't change exp gains against level 30 enemies, so you have some leeway to level up to not be in one shot range at least. Also for reference, it takes 78k exp to hit level 20
Bro I can not for the life of me get the game to let me give the defenders light shield. I've tried restarting from the beginning, getting to the large harkstone, then doing the shield quest.I've tried doing the shield quest before getting to the large harJackie's.I've tried just going forward past the large harkstone and getting the the ceiling collapse event.I've talked to the defenders, I've talked to the knight dude, I talked to his lackies.Nothing works, I've never get the prompt to hand over the shields. Does anyone have a full proof way to do this? Is it possible on NG+ or do I need to wait until NG+2?
>>499852371Do the quest before B1F boss.
>>499851815is your pickaxe locked?
>>499852841>is your pickaxe locked?Yes.
>>499846048>I tried to "Grade Up" I can't get to the boss of the grade up mission without busting all my resources.Learn to Metal Gear your way around enemies, it'll serve you well. Keep in mind you can always flee and then run away if you do run into something you can't beat without spending resources.That said you really don't need the level uncap until like b6f or so, and keeping yourself at level 20 will mean you get better exp. No need to rush the grade up.
>>499850231The best part of this? If you use a flame to revive, it just kills you again immediately.
>>499830110Barbara is a Neutral/Air Beast Knight. In fact, I think she and Clarissa are the only Neutral, and non-Good, Knights atm.
