Olive EditionFeatured Banners:Wanderer Princess LanavailleKnight Errant Gerard the ThundersmiterOfficial wiki:https://wizardry.wiki.gg/wiki/Wizardry_Variants_DaphneGeneral Information:https://rentry.org/x5xxitrzJP fanguide:https://gamerch.com/wizardry-daphne/Friend code:https://rentry.org/SavoryRiskEdit code: m:DaphneThread template:https://rentry.org/DaphneTemplatePrevious >>499851619
i thought these were rare
>You have the power.>>You have the power.>>You have the power.>[...]>[...]>[...]>You have the power.Okay this is getting old now, shut the fuck up already.
>>499919098based zoomer adhd anon
NG+1. Where/How do I best Gold Farm? I wish to make the most of the last hours of the gold and sell campaigns.
Fought scorp and she killed Olive and AdamBut upon returning to town they're at 1 hp why
How is this game for me, a regular gacha coomchad?
>>499919443It's a different mechanic that gives you a stat boost and the ability to swap between skins later.You won't get any skill ugprades that way.
>>499918809skellybros...
Is there any reason not to be a neutral MC? Do I still get rewards if I start now?
>>499919630if you are into guro you are gonna love it
>>499919630Nothing interesting with regards to coom.
>>499920009unknown as of now, all points to neutral being the best unless new characters later on require specific non-neutral alignments
>>499920047Snuff*Because I don't really see graphic guro depictions, only text
man, what the fuck is with the mausoleum.i've done like over 50 runs, and i only really want Amelia dupes. i only got 1 of her so far, and it was the 1 guaranteed drop of her.
>>499919565Low level adventurers auto-revive on returning to town if you come from the noob dungeon. It's to prevent softlocks where you have no characters high enough level to do content with because they're all dead and you're out of money.
>>499919630there's some coom and tits jiggle a lot if that's what you're asking
>>499919630Alice makes me want to coom
https://www.reddit.com/r/gachagaming/comments/1gc5175/my_full_thoughts_regarding_wizardry_variants/This stupid faggot has spent $500 on this game and is whining about it on Reddit.
>>499920816>spent $500to what end
tell me about lulunardewhy does she do the monke flip
>>499920816Great. Go back.
>>499920890I only skimmed the post, but he's arguing that the game is pay-to-win because he can't imagine getting through the content without paying.
>>499918981They MASSIVELY buffed the drop rate in the last day or two. They're still rare, but it's more in line with the drop rate for water gear.
>>499920293What? Not that anon but I spent at least more than one hour overleveling until lvl 16 for scorpion woman because I was afraid of dying and then this is a thing?
>>499921018lmao
>>499920816I spent around that, but I actually like the game.Now tell them to fix the fucking harken bug.
>>499920254Skill issue, I ran it until my revives ran out and got 5 of her
this fucking idiot
>>499921061imagine overleveling for the tutorial dungeon
>>499921149I haven't spent anything yet, and I don't know if I will, but what do you feel you've gotten from it? Has it helped you? To me, the game seems very fair in what it gives free players, but I've also never played another gacha game.
>>499920816Reddit gachagamers are braindead.reading posts there only confirms why phone users are stupid and cant fathom even simple rpg mechanics.
>>499921232lmao
>>499920816how do retarded people like this have money
saw people complaining about the mattock.if you equip it in battle, and the error pops up, just immediately quit the game, load it up again, get into battle, then quit again.when you load up next, it will be where you last left off, but with the mattock equipped.have to do the same if you switch it off.
>>499921362It's literally impossible to play a game without paying for things. >>499921442500 bucks is not a lot of money. You have to remember that pay pigs have no real hobbies, they just blow their money on this and Funko Pops.
Is there any reason to use any other 1h weapon other than daggers?
>>499921297Helped? Not that much. Luck obviously played into it but even without any spending I would've gotten 4/6 of the starting legendary characters. I wanted more Lanas so I swiped for more Lanas. The only "advantage" or true pay to win currently is getting Lanas sig sword.
>>499921553>swap>crash>Start again, battle loads up from start>close out game>Start again, battle will resume from where you first wereIs that how it fucking works?
>>499920816this massive retard thought the only way to get Fire AoE spell was the Book from Savor the Risk 2 pack.He hasn't played the game enough to realize that all mages get their own AoE ele spell from 2 elements.He also thinks the Gacha weapon is MANDATORY for progression even tho you can only get it to +10 and comes with no enchantments.Its always impressive how the people with the most money always end up being the most wrong.
>>499921571>500 bucks is not a lot of money.Maybe not compared to Train Simulator but it's certainly more than my weekly entertainment budget.
>>499921571but how do they fucking earn it, they clearly have brain damage so I can't see them having a job
>>499921157honestly tempted to pay the gems to have the ability to open all the chests at this point. its insane
>>499921949might as well buy rolls at that point, you'll actually be able to get ssrs and save time farming that shit
>>499921571You are trying too hard to ragebait and get attention, are you that lonely?Im f2p and party is almost 40lvl, having no real issues with the game, only bugs are annoying.Sounds like skill issue to me.
Bros i made it to new game plus after 6 days. I randomly stumbled upon the hidden cave of water with the water pouring statue in tutorial dungeon. Can i do anything here or do i have to wait for further abilities?
>>499922167Ignore it for now.
>>499921746>the Book from Savor the Risk 2 packI have that and I haven't even used it yetGame is currently at a comfy level of "tough" so I'm saving it
>just rolled Asha>already built Yeka and FlutHelp I can't stop raising cute mages
>>499922167current speculation is that you'll go there once you have all the abilities unlockedright now it doesn't lead anywhere, even with the ability from the second dungeon (water statue related)
>>499921949It also unlocks more horserape, don't do it>>499922364Having a full elemental roster of mages is a good thing
>>499921746>>499922283It's not gamechanging at all because every mage gets at least one row targetting AoE, and so far there's not even any content where you'd specifically want fireThe most astonishing thing about this is how such a massive retard just has 500 bucks to throw around willynilly
Does Adam learn a different spell in place of the second element other Mages normally get?
Should I just go with the name this blonde girl gave me? I assume if I pick my own name, it won't be said in the voices?
>>499922384Yeah, it's clearly the endgame where the mystery niggas will congratulate you.>>499922160Do you not understand sarcasm?>>499922639Adam gets one element, because you don't need more than 1 element.
>see tedious thing you can do for minimal improvements>proceed to make yourself miserable by doing it because YOU CANThese people can breed (probably not) and vote, think about it.
>>499922685They won't say your name either way.
>>499922685It's not said in voicelines even if you pick the default choices someone tried that
>lana just fucking spawns in at the cheers
>>499922872>complaining about bondmates instead of extracts, shit inventory and unifying taking fucking minutes
>>499922872The game is unplayable without that extra 40 HP.
>>499921586I don't know why but somtimes daggers only hit for 2 damage against highly armored targets, more often than swords
>>499923236In that case I just switch to a 2h axe.But there's no 1h better than a dagger
>>499921586Wind sword you get early on is very useful for some contentGet to equip a shieldTwo chances to hit (more reliable against high eva enemies)Gerard
>>499921586I would rather have +10 elemental sword than +5 elemental dagger, really depends on how the drops fuck you
>>499921731the first time you reload the game, you will be where you left off, but the game won't work, so you have to quit and load it again.the important thing is that when the error pops up, don't click the "title" button, just close the game, otherwise you'll just start over from the beginning.
>>499922587>The most astonishing thing about this is how such a massive retard just has 500 bucks to throw around willynillyTwo ends of the spectrum anon.You could also say that only such a massive retard would throw around 500 bucks willynilly.
>>499923821I'll try that next time thanks
So I just did the Butcher quest again and someone I was supposed to rescue die due to the timer running outIs there any way to redo the quest now?
>>499924128Yeah you can repeat all the quests endlessly later, granted its a bit tougher
>>499924241does that quest have anything interesting as a reward if you save all 3? I don't remember
>>499924430I've failed it twice...
>>499924558
I've farmed so many tombs I'm starting to enjoy it. Send help.
>>499924430Nah, not really.I got a bracelet of urgency, only notable thing seems to be that it gives "sleep tolerance".
DEBRA NO
>>499924760Oh so that's where I got that useless thing
Farming tombs reminds me of 8 years ago when I used to spend hours building my grid on granblue... good times...
>>499918809where the witches at?
>>499924760>>499924828>sleep tolerance>useless
alright this game is great
My 500k I grinded out ran out
>>499924821Treasure addict with no fear.
My 50k I grinded ran out...
>>499925778>>499925945>he boughted and refineded
>Old Wood Bow is worse than Huntsman's Bow For what reason?
uh oh... should I abandon?
>>499920890That's like 3 bundles
>>499926051Huntsman is static drop in beginner dungeon only isn't it? Like the halberd?
>>499926217Yes and you can get as many of them as you want with the cursed wheel I imagine (I have 2 from NG and NG+).
>>499926051Mine is better. Granted, it's +10 with +16 attack and +10% attack, but it also has a shitty +9 divine because "fuck you".
I wonder if you could have 2 actions before enemy with 100 ASPD
>>499926105I'm not doing a single fucking quest in Waterworld until the game is stable
Do you guys think this gacha will last or does it seem like one of those games that will die after honeymoon and probably should have been released as a standalone instead?
>>499926420No idea at this point, Japan seems to like it and Wizardry has a cult following among jap boomers, so they're probably catching a few whalesMy main hope would be that it earns enough to get enough content to finish the story they're planning to tell and then it'd be easy to convert into a standalone PC game
Are there limits to Refinement?Like once per blessing or something?
>>499926420i cant see myself sticking with this game for long. tedious shits get me mad very easily
just to make sure for ng+when i went back to save the soldiers on B1F do i have to manually progress back to where i was at or can I just wheel jump ahead
>>499926420Unknown but it's doing way better than I expectedThe only question is will Japs be able to subsidize the english client. Chances are good since we're not separate servers and the game itself is a labor of love.This doesn't fit the usual gacha mold so it's hard to predict really.>and probably should have been released as a standalone instead?It literally wouldn't have been made due to lack of disinterest by investors. Look at the past few Wizardrys, that's what you get when you have barely any cash to work with.
>>499926772>RefinementYou can refine multiple times but it won't add them up. Eg. you refine with 5 evasion first and then use a 3 evasion rock the bonus would go downIdeally you get blue/purple item that has the bonuses already unlocked, get it to +5 or +10 so the stat gets boosted and then use a refinement for even more bonus
>>499926378You can extract trash and switch that +div to another stat.
Got tired of waiting for them to fix the harken bug so now I'm leveling up my knight class for my MC. All of the passives stack, right?
>>499926420I think this will be a 1 or 2 month honeymoon phase gacha. The fun is discovering things and exploiting bugs like NIKKE during their launch.They’ve also said they are slowing down content speed for bug fixing, and anons have already hit the end game sooo idk
>>499926884My problem is: why the fuck did they think having an english dub would be okay.I've played quite some gachas in the past where there were no separate japanese and global servers, and although they had english translations, their dubs were mostly only japanese (and maybe chinese/korean in some cases).
>>499927251>end gamelmao
>>499927094Yeah, I'll probably do that at some point. But I might wind up replacing it eventually, so not much point wasting a good enchant on it. I boosted a ring to +20 divine earlier, because it'll probably be useful for a while.
>>499926420It's unique for a gacha that I can see it getting a hardcore following.While gameplay wise, it's good, the real problem is monetization. IMO, the monetization is all over the place, this isn't even about the prices but the economics of selling an SSR.The current SSRs aren't that much better than SRs, and given that old units will continue to grow with time due to discipline and inheritance, I can see a lot of people simply not pulling chars. Yet at the same time, the sheer price of getting a max discipline, max inheritance SSR looks to be so expansive that I think even whales might start to reconsider.
>>499926420If they don't add QOL I don't see it lasting particularly long, I had to spend literally 3 hours just sorting inventory yesterday (extracting, unifying etc.)
>>499927437holy +20, how much gold and mats it needed ? What kinda stats it has now ?
WAIFU POLLINGhttps://poal.me/1k2c4dhttps://poal.me/1k2c4dhttps://poal.me/1k2c4d
>>499927593It was +16 divine after taking it to +5, and I put a +2-4 on it. Think it started as +10, 4 star green.
>>499926335What's the location for it? I got it on my first account but somehow missed it on my second.
>>499926105What's the issue with this particular quest? I was able to complete it just fine.
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>>499927770>no Galina optionHey. Fuck you.
>>499927906Some anons got permalocked in one of the fights
>>499927214They should, the bracket is just to say where the source of the passive is from.ATK up (fighter) should stack with the generic ATK up inherited from generics but are 2 different passives on the stat screen.I've also definitely countered enemies while as a thief with the fighter passive, so non-stat passives should also work.There are some skills that have restrictions, like thief's hide and sneak attack which can't be used as other classes but they do mention that in the skill description.
>>499927252>why the fuck did they think having an english dub would be okay.Why isn't it okay?Not everyone is crazy about anime and Japan, you know. Dekinai like me would rather have characters speak in passable, maybe below mediocre, EN dub to understand their personalities better.
>>499927770>No AshaMy big witch hat wife with equally big tits...
>>499928278>EN dub to understand their personalities betterlmao here's your (You)
>>499927828Sorry I can't really remember.
>cleared ghost ship on b6f>feeling great and kinda want to clear out any quests on backlog before doing b7f>saw the one eye sahagin thing and bought a mackerel sandwich to maybe get a different path>realize I havent got the next major event to leap in the future so I have to do ghost ship and this godawful floor againwell fuck memaybe I'll just save albano now before progressing again
>>499928278Because dubs cost money and english VAs can out of nowhere decide to boycott the game.
>walk into bronze quest>fucking jumped by 70 speed succubus spamming lvl 3 aoe sleep while the wind elementals are throwing 150 damage wind nukesHoly fucking shit
>>499927214>>499928097Easy way to test it is just to skill inherit one of the class specific passives from an SR and see if your stats went up.But people were saying Stat (Fighter) for example only works if you are on Fighter.
>>499919098The power... You have it.Peak cinema.
>>499928385Is dub mistranslated then? Should I be waiting for japs to put up voiced lines on some wiki and then wait for people to translate them?>>499928409Has that ever happened before? On my memory, chinks had some freakout over japanese VA and her voice got replaced maybe in a couple of games, but that's not really the same.
>>499927252It may have been a condition of the investors, or part of a strategy to revive the franchise in the west. Who knows. There's an unusual amount of money and effort put into it all things considered (the script is the only decently translated part of the game.)
Let me out of the mines please...
>>499928898I know Snowbreak's EN dub had to be cancelled because the voice actors started throwing a fit.
>>499928983Wow it's really that easy?Do you farm at 0 fortitude?
>>499928517>half my party gets blown up and the other half slept>want to die so I can flame and try again>they just keep sleeping me>even the elementals are doing it>over and over again>goes on for 8 rounds
>>499928394Actually, I just hit up the spots I skipped and it seemed to be on the chests behind the double Ents on 5F.
I hope they ban the mausoleum farmers or put them in gem debt
>>499929108Fast lvl40 mage will oneshot everything besides the centaur, the only risk is ambush. But if someone dies you can just Suicide the mc and use a flame
>>499929070Snowbreak cancelled the dub due to a lack of money.The VA said no after the devs found money and wanted to rehire them. But this is sketchy rumors since it's from a discord mod.
Fuck it, we ball. Today me and my party will beat Helmut!
I've got several questions.Of the Soil gear vs Steel, what's better?As well asIn the grassland area, is there any good loot?
>>499929335Thanks will try.
>>499929335What's your magic at to one-shot? I almost one-shot everything at 187.
>>499929484Steel has very slightly higher base attack/defense
>>499929484Grassland has nothing for you, it's only used for late 2nd dungeon quests right now.Steel is better than soil, but soil is good in the 2nd dungeon because earth beats water.
>>499929484Steel has higher stats but soil weapons deal earth damage which is effective for a huge portion of port town.
>>499929484elemental advantage bonuses boost your dmg shitload, I don't think there's much point improving non-elemental weapons
>>499928983I thought there was a limit to how much bones you could get huh.Whats the purpose of the count then
>>499929754It's bugged
>>499929754There is a limit. The limit doesn't work in the thief tomb.
Is this one of those games that has a bunch of hidden doors and shit? Should I be autistically trying to bump every wall?
>>499929992No hidden doors as of now.
>>499929992Yeah, you should bump into every wall.
>>499929754It isThief mausoleum is bugged and you can infinitely farm it if you're not afraid of being banned / punished for it
>>499927770>no pixieThis is too cruel.
>>499929070Sounds shitty, though it seems like it was related to the game having ASMR segments or something? I guess in this case maybe it was for best.I won't lose any sleep if this game suddenly decided to cut EN dub, but I don't really get why it gets so much hostility, other than usual JAPAN NUMBA WAN wank, just saying. Hope they'll just let people switch between the two freely soon.
>>499929441Realistically it was probably both, and then with some VAs being okay with coming back. But then it'd be some characters randomly voice and some not; so they just canned the whole thing
>>499928756I HAVE THE POWER
>>499930330Level 150 Debra...
>>499928898When the game has both Surety and the normal Critical in translation, trust nothing. Understand that everything you read are, at most, a joke.
How many of you guys bought the various passes? I think the purple one's pretty good.
>>499928520Looks like the passives do work even if you aren't on that class.Inherited Passive HP Up (Fighter) on Lanavaille who is a Knight obv
>>499930565Because Surety and Critical are two separate things in this game.If they weren't retarded though, they would have used Critical to mean what literally every game since like 1985 uses "Critical" for, i.e. what Surety currently is (Surety itself is a retarded word to use here). And renamed the current Critical to Instant Death/Lethal/Fatal or something along those lines
>>499929910>>499929948>>499930081It's not fucking bugged jesus christ. It's there to drive engagement like every other grind. How long do you think it's going to take you to grind max level of assault guard on eight different parties (6 elements + good/evil)? You guys really are not thinking long term at all.>>499929754To show that you've got everyone.
>>499921746>comes with no enchantments.It's randomly rolledt. rocking blue one w/ +5atk +5acc
>>499930795I'm not buying shit until they fixed the bugs and throw in some much needed QoL like the ability to mass extract instead of being forced to do it 1 by 1.
>>499930948why doesn't it work for other mausoleums then you braindead retard
>>499931089It fucking does, dipshit. Did you TRY?
Just post a screenshot if you were able to get dupe bones for the other class Mausoleums besides Thief.
>>499931139Post proof then. Show 2 same bones of warrior/knight /priest/mage. Only pics that exist are thief
>>499931139yes, I only got junk. Post fighter bones you dumb cunt
>>499930942It's 会心 in Japanese, senpai. Surety isn't a word. The game's translated by AI.
>>499931230>>499931249I'm tempted to just let you keep being stupid but I've been farming mage the whole time give me a bit.
If you really wanted to minmax class skills wouldn't you want to wait until you are level 9 in each skill before reclassing?The skill level you get from leveling the class counts as an entire level so you would save a lot of dupes going from 9 -> 10 I think?
>>499931303https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/suretyare you being stupid on purpose
>>499931520It just gives 100xp. If you are lvl1, it will go to lvl2. But if you are lvl8, it will only go 1/3 to 9
>>499931303I've played some games with both 会心 and クリティカル where the former was used as a crit rating and the latter direct crit chance%
>>499931520You'd do that before you even started levelling if you wanted to min-max.
>>499931645>It just gives 100xpOh confirmed?
>>499931230inb4 2 flut bones
>>499931645You tried it? That's nice to know, could've been an easy brick.I'm still waiting to see confirmation that (fighter) skills work on non-fighters, though. Obviously you can add them, but I don't know if they increase stats if you don't have that class.
>>499931856Bro literally right here >>499930901 and how you get (Fighter) passives on Wanderer that boost Wanderer stats
what's your Party Power at bros
>>499930795I'm going to wait until the game is more stable and see what events are like before I think about spending.
>>499931856Well that's easy to confirm. Just change class on the MC.
>>499931856They work. It just tells your where you got it from. It's just so you can't use knights version to lvl up warriors version e.g.
>>4999319719001.
>>499931648Yeah, and there are also games that use 「会心率」and「会心力」instead; 会心 by itself doesn't mean critical, but it probably shouldn't ever be translated as https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/surety like >>499931538 suggested
>>499919630Rather than a gacha game with Wizardry flavor, this is a Wizardry game with gacha flavor.
>>499930081I got like 8 dupes before I finished my 6/6 so doubt it's too bannable
>>4999319714034.
Should I visit the goblin cave before going to ng+? Is it always scaled higher than you no matter when you enter it?
>frozen and cant move after trying to rest at fountaindid I lose the game?
For grade up quest I found the room with two poison tile but there is no boss there. How come?
Just started today, is the Wanderer Princess Lana bait?Also, can you use her and her normal form in the same team or how do alternate/variants work?
>>499932552Happens, just restart
>>499926420I think it will do well.Most Japanese gacha that lasted for a long time are either>waifubait >top tier optimization autism simsPuzzle and Dragons falls into the latter and is still around going strong.
>>499932648Yeah kinda. You can merge her with her normal form and switch between the two. You can't have two of the same character in a party.
>>499932635There are multiple poison rooms, boss spawns in 1 at random.>>499932769P&D also costs literally nothing to run. This game requires 3D assets.
>>499932514It's lvl 26 in NG, and lvl 29 in NG+ iirc
>>4999328143D assets aren't really that hard or expensive.
Tulpa Wife Upskirt.
>>499927828In chests behind scorpion lady @ b5f
>>499932648Kinda bait, but the alt skin looks and sounds better.*You can't use them on same team.Only reason to pull is for the focused rate up if you're looking to increase her passive skill level.You can "merge" them which lets you swap between either and gives you an extra irrelevant passive, but this isn't a skin swap. It's just 2 characters in 1 with shared skills. Their disciplines (dupes fed for stat bonus) stay separate and aren't interchangable, and their traits (str,dex,etc) seem to be separate as well.
>>499929251@daphnelegalteam GET THESE GUYS NOW
does alt lana have different skins if you change her class like normal lana?
trying to find the best way to swipe and man these bundles suck
>>499933548the only thing even remotely okay is the $5 risk pass
what happen if i step in teleportation tool in bf1?Jumped to bf8?
>>499933714I stood on it. And -nothing- happened. I am guessing you find another teleporter connecting to it somewhere else on another floor. And then it activates. Or something.
Should I just auto select stat increases? I dunno what I'm doing.
>>499933932It's only active before you meet lulu.
>>499933932It's end-game content, goes nowhere now.
>>499933446Nope, alt skins stay as they are
>>499933446No, she keeps her (already alt) outfit. At this point, the main reason to use the alt is her appearance when switching to a fighter (and the voice lines if you don't like a downer). Otherwise the base Lana seems better for the long run because you can still increase her discipline from dupe spooks. And to make use of those extra discipline stats, you can't be swapped to alt Lana even if merged. So unless you're fine having no discipline, base Lana is technically better.
>>499933932it teleports you to a sealed off room in waterworld, you can't do anything there other than look around and take a waterslide trip
Wtf, I attacked the rubble with the pickaxe and it didn't get destroyed
>>499934281You have to use a dwarf
>>499933714If you step on it during the intro segment before you steal the mask, it teleports you to a room that uses the second dungeon's tileset.
>>499934387Really? Fuck me then.
So what happens when I disciple someone who passed the Test into another one with higher Bonus Points?
Fat
>>499933978Flip a coin and choose between pumping Vit, Speed or Luck
>>499933978You will not last long
Discipline shouldn’t be focused as much because it is inaccessible for a majority of players.F2Ps would have to focus on general or no names for that, but we don’t even have that many pulls atm.
>>499934879Bro, your tomb raiding?
So it’s her fault.
>thief tomb gave me equipment>cant get a good thiefat leat i got thunderbob
>release celebration ends in 3 days>started today>legendary bones on 7th dayIs it over for me?
>>499935219yes
>>499935219Theyr'e considering extending it.
>>499935309Are there people who got fucked by a bug and couldn't check? Or that's not possible
So what happens if my party actually wipes? I do not wish to lose my characters.
>>499935592You get sent back to the last story checkpoint. You only lose characters if you raise them at low fortitude.
>>499934503Impressive.
What Inheritance skills/passives do SR thieves give? Anything worth getting to 9?
I will use the royal room when we have a reasonable way to get gold.Until then, sorry but not sorry.
>>499935817trap detection
Cortu and protection against Spell Damage doesn't work against Poison Breath does it? I'd love to be wrong.
>>499935817Bakesh gives treasure trap detection skill, jean gives treasure trap disarm skill.
>>499935219So unless you started in the first week, you can't get bones? kek
>>499935740>You get sent back to the last story checkpoint.And I get to keep my stuff? Do I still have to revive my friends?
>>499935592When (you) die and decide not to revive it sends you back to the last checkpoint. When (you) die and spend a flame to revive, it usually starts you just before the fight so you have a chance to run.Dead party members can be revived during battle, but (you) will probably lose some HP and maybe get paralyzedDead party members outside of battle get revived at the church. Wait until they're at max Fortitude and you won't permalose them.
>>499935980if they're spamming poison breath at your backrow multiple times in a row I'm sorry for your luck
>>499936141You basically get sent back in time so anything you did up until your time of death never happened
>>499935864I always use the economy room, but after a day of farming, I remove everyone else from my party except Amelia, and then go to the Royal Room with her.Then I go to the economy room with the others.
>>499936141No, no.
>>499936141You have 2 options basically.Rise Again (your party revives with you if they were alive before the fight)and the other option when you're out of flames of awakening, where you revive at last story checkpoint and your teammates who died are still dead. Later on you'll also be church raped since higher the level they're more gold the church will demand for revivals.
>>499936390based
>>499935817Do i give it to Debra or the MC... The dilemma
How fast is the content pipeline looking like? Live service usually live and die based on their content release speed.
>>499936508Debra. MC gets trap phobia too easily.
>>499936427I do something similar, except I don't remove anyone from my party since they are all girls.I like to pretend they are servicing me with some soapland play in the royal suite's bathroom.
>>499927481mass extraction and more filter options for selling are my most wanted things, all the shitty bronze gear i have is clogging up my inventory
>>499936508MC
What's Octonaras?
>>499936720Same. And an option to lock equipment from the summon screen
>>499936765The optional 2nd dungeon boss if you do all the mermaid statue shit, I think.
>>499936534Looks like most of the content is upfront. This is more a wizardry game than gacha game. I'm personally skeptical if they'll even do "events" because there's no set rate of progression across the players due to the lack of timegate. How do you balance timed limited events for that?
>>499928080I respect it anonFor me it's Chloe and Flut
>>499937051Usually in game events for gacha are story oriented. Very few gacha events are actually difficult. If you mean spoilers and such, usually they make the events about the earliest stuff or give a spoiler warning.
Just started NG+.How do I do the Mausoleum farm?
>>499935980It does.poison breath counts as magic.
>poison>it's actually magic
>>499937375>fire>it's actually magic
>>499936534Hard to say so far. The base release had a very reasonable amount of content, but the amount of bugs despite a beta test and years of development mean it might take them longer than expected to put stuff out.
>>499936427How do you get more flames after spending all 3?
>>499937630They recharge. I think it might be 1 per hour, but I haven't kept track, someone probably knows for certain.
>>499936534>>499937051We have zero idea because we haven't seen the first event yet, and they haven't put out a roadmap.We're not even sure if they're going to do events in the traditional gacha sense as a matter of fact.
Imagine if you could purchase SPECIAL FLAMES that recovered your HP/MP/SP
>go on daily quest>infinite black screenokay
>>499936427>the only one i ever had church raped was amelia the beast girlahahahhahahhah
>>499937630They recover naturally, like one flame per hour.
>>499937784>raised by banditsAmelia has probably been raped hundreds of times
How many Mind Pearls should I have after completing both towns? I can't figure out if I'm still bugged or not.
>>499935309Where did they say they might extend?
>>499938357When you open up the new classes with the lights, you get more pearls. Just unlock a new one then reset for a couple of days to get them all.
Can you permanently brick your character if you don't know what you're doing?
>>499938432In the announcemengs they post in game.It will definitely be extended. Too many bugs have stalled too many people's ability to play the game.
>>499938612No. Of course not, people would stop paying money if you could.
>>499937087>good natured mature catgirl warrior chick I'm finna BUST
>>499938916Don't forget her thickness. God, she's unbelievably thick compared to the other characters, and she carries it so well that you almost don't notice it until you take a closer look. Hips and ass like a dumptruck.
>>499936328>MC literally cannot lose in a conceptual levelYOU HAVE THE POWER.
Fucking hell the clock tome daily gives a lot of XP
>6k for Royal Family RingCan I keep rewind and do this quest for gold?
So I finally got Adam to 40His unique once per fight spell does like 290ish now and the regular AoE every mage gets a version of does 250ishIt's not nothing, but it's another thing where SSRs only get a slight edge compared to any other character
toiling away in the mausoleum sounds miserable to me
How strong is the dmg buff Alice gives neutral / evil characters in her row?I'm trying to figure out if its worth leveling her for my party
>>499939184Her post battle walk animation is something else too. Most of the girls are only mildly sexualized because she took all the boner material. I do not regret goodmaxxing.
I can't activate this hearken. Is it because my quest objective is broken? I already kill Helmut, but will going back through the labyrinth to fix this?
>>499939583I feel like the main benefit of the SSR mages is the early access to the AoE spell rather than the bonus damage, though that's nice too.
>beat NG+ Helmut first tryNice. Now what? I accepted the princess' request but don't know where to go.
>>499939856I think it’s 10% dmg buff
>>499939992The world map in the bottom right.
>>499939992Go to town, hit the drop down menu to minimize your party, open the map, go to the port.
I beat all of NG0 without a single death. But now here. At NG+1. I have died. I took on the two ents and have faced death. I managed to kill one of them, but then I no longer had any SP or MP left for the other one. And I fell. I have been humbled. I suppose this is what I get for ignoring the Den of Earth or the Grade Up Exam. I just wished to unlock the first fountain to make me less reliant on the inn. But I suppose that'll have to wait a little bit.
>>49993985610%, same as Lana's buff for good/neutral rows
>>499940135>I took on the two entsWhy? Nobody died there in NG. There was nobody to save.
>>499940135maybe you just can't take them both
>white gear can turn green when upgradingWtf I didn't know this was a thing
>>499940135ng+ I chose the wrong option in a story choice b4f and it autokilled me / used flamechose 'rise again' and it locked me into that option and killed me again lmao
>>499940223>Why?Extra exp. Extra gold. It gives you something for the trouble doesn't it? But yeah it was uncharacteristically careless of me. Considering I've been playing very carefully up until NG+. But I've absolutely trashed every enemy for quite some time. NG0 Helmut stood no chance. And in my defence. I did slay one of them. I probably could have defeated the other as well if I had brought one or two MP pots.
>>499940396It's worse than gear that started green though
>>499940508>MP pots
>>499939974Forgot my image. Pls halp
>>499940174I was also considering out yeka for asha for reasons, do you think it would be worth keeping the backrow neutral / evil for the buff?
>>499940508It gives you double the XP.>>499940589Well, they are in the game. They just don't work.
>>499940589>>MP potsI've been hoarding mine. And I probably shouldn't waste them on the ents. But I do have a couple.
>>499940135I kneel, I died on the first fucking hobgoblin because I wasn't expecting a 30 damage nuke.
>>499940624kek that was supposed to have been fixed last patch
>go back to the capital after bumming around in the port town>see elmon in the square, talk to her>she and others are forgetting who i amhmmmm, now where could this be headed i wonder
This Adam has allocated values for a base stat list
>>499940917but base stats have slight variance
>>499931520From what i can see the skill levels gained from class changes are added separately and don’t count towards inheritance. Pic related is the atk up passive that both classes learn.lvl 1 wanderer skilllvl 2 Gaston dupeslvl 3 Gaston dupeslvl 4 warrior skill levelThe skill is at level 4 but it shows that i only have enhanced it 2 times. It caps out at 7 so I don't need to do the final upgrade to max it out. Same exp requirement (500) as other skills that I inherited twice but didn’t learn naturally.Not sure how getting the skill level from class change works if you are already at the skill level cap, with this game anything could happen.
>>499918809how to beat cave trial level 20?>mobs need aoe>don't know where the boss is
>>499940770So what do I do? I guess just submit a ticket and stay away from port town until it's fixed?
>>499941015Yeah but not +5 over everyone elseI compared my own unregistered Adams first.They're10/17/12/10/15/13/1110/16/12/10/15/14/11
>>499941059>don't know where the boss isI think you're supposed to feel it out across multiple attempts but hereHave fun
>>499940770>>499940624>>499941184Dude I have the same issue
>>499940589Where do you even get them? I only got a few SP pots so far
>>499940639>Well, they are in the game. They just don't work.They're bugged? I've been keeping mine safe as some kind of special weapon for emergencies.
>get to den of earth>gay spikes everywhere>especially at junctions>even mandatory ones right before exitwhat a cunt of a locationand even then all i get is lousy rocks
>>499941184Dunno. Submitting it seems a good idea but you could do the basic troubleshooting attempts and/or just try to push ahead and hope the next one works.
>>499941383Was it the 5k Inn stay gifting you 3 pots? I don't know if they are SP or MP pots
What's wait time for support mail?
>>499941449Yeah, you can only pass them around the party, you can't actually use them. The SP ones work fine.
>>499940638I think it's more worthwhile for the backline than the front because it's not unlikely that you'll use mages to AoE farm stuff and the 10% might actually make a difference there for oneshot threshholds, but at the end of the day it would just mean you need to farm a better staff or whatever to make up for it, if you rather have the big witch hat go ahead this seems like a game where you can be just fine with your favorites
>>499941282Is the boss strong? my mana depleted before reaching there
>>499941053wtf
>>499941564Like a week
>>499941383I found them in chests near the end of the 2nd dungeon, I think.
>>4999415315k inn could be it, I'm in the port town but never splurged on it
>>499941687I think you're supposed avoid like 95% of the encounters until you reach the boss. Fleeing is your friend.
>>499939974>>499940624>>499941184I had the same issue. The next harken worked though. Good luck!
>>499941687Pretty strong, certainly need most of your resourcesSo either fight the enemies with minimal expenditures (items help) or mess with their AI and try to get them to fuck out of your way.
I missed the level 20 grade up on one of my mages. Is there any way to retake the exam with different units, or is the only way to use premium currency?
>>499941531They're healing pots. You only get 3 SP pots from the dungeon so far. Not sure if Port Town gives you any.>>499941687He's tanky and will likely beat you in a battle of attrition unless you bring undead slaying weapons.
>>499942015What do you mean? Just take it again
>>499942015It doesn’t cost anything to take the exam
>>499942015Once you unlocked it you can do it freely with anyone
https://may.2chan.net/b/res/1266926595.htm
>>499941282>multiple attemptbut they cost a guild tag, right?and most of us only have 3 right now
>>499942195Yekaville...
>>499942257It only costs to unlock it, then its unlimited
>>499942257No? You consume the guild tag when class changing, not entering the dungeon.
>>499942257Cost nothing to enter, you just need to have a tag to show it to the guild/tavern girl.You can get more tags by dismissing adventurers.
>>499942195I had this happen to my asha yesterday
>>499942552I fucking hate tiktok dances
>>499942552What did she mean by this?
>>499942552sex with witches
>>499942101>undead slaying weaponsi tried in bf7/8 and the damage is lower than my royal knight sword
>>499942945I wonder if the weapon with a VS UNDEAD trait has any special benefits against the undead over normal weapons....
Stupid bitches should've brought the thief.Then they might've seen me slip in the pills
>>499942945>daggerBro...
>>499942945>Comparing a dagger to a swordNext you're going to tell me an undead dagger does less damage than an iron 2H mace.
>>499941932Is there a boss on the 2nd floor? I'm considering sneaking over to it but my mage is drained.
>>499943069but i tested it against skeleton. MaI beat helmut and now in bf3 without them. I will try again later in boss then
>>499942890when she's alone with you at the tavern and her boobs are perfectly in frame when you cheers
Just started NG+, tried fighting the 2 ents by myself on 3rd floor and got my ass kicked, is there any different outcome by beating the 2 alone or it's just more exp?
>>499943348None of these floors are casual rompsHell I can't even sidestep because I get ambushed half the timegood thing the loot is so damn good
>>499943123Why do your party members sometimes get drowsy, anyway? Galina is really sleepy for me.
>>4999433482nd floor doesn't have a boss, but it has some annoying one way trips. consider looking up a map online. but its annoying because the 2nd floor harken is past a temporary point of no return that you cant fix until b4f, which IS past a boss.
>>499943495you get a little one on one time with your favorite unit at the inn
newfag here. Should I be rolling bones constantly? So far I have Yekaterina from the starter pick and got lucky and got both versions Lanavaille pretty fast.
How many guaranteed legendaries can you get currently?
>the quest mimic oneshots me
>>499943378Don't use Daggers. Ever.They're an absolute fucking trash joke of a meme EXCEPT on Level 30+ Thieves who can completely ignore Defense. Compare them to an actual Undeadbane Sword
>>4999437712One random bone and one selection, you also get 20+ pulls per reroll so your chances of getting at least one more are pretty goodYou missed the launch login bonus that would have given you another random one after a week though
Playing this game made me want to play dark and darker again, but apparently that game is a dumpster wreck atm…
>>499943813Quest mimic scales so it's a decent challenge if you're unprepared
>forced loss in the Arena>party's Fortitude isn't restored
Why does two thirds of my Den of Earth map info disappear whenever I leave and re-enter the dungeon? Is it a bug? If anything it's annoying because it prevents me from auto-moving.
>>499944120Yeah, you just have to do the arena solo if you don't want to get raped.
>>499944131Intentional, map also changes.
>>499944036When do you get the selection one? Also is the login bonus that one that they might extend?
>>499944045It's kind of hard being prepared when it acts first and has 2 actions before I can do anything
>>499943690You almost always want to be saving your roll currency for when you REALLY want somethingNormal bones and golden bones are fine though, so are green bones you get from the pass. But try to save your gems if you can help it, if you have 20k for a banner you can guarantee the top prizes in the mileage shop.
>>499944040PvP extraction kills all it touches. I wanted to love it for the dark atmosphere too but it's too autistic.
>get one shot by spinner woman>now thistook until the bronze exam but I think it's finally time to upgrade my gear past +4
>>499944220>Intentional, map also changes.Oh. There were some things that I wondered if they had actually changed. But other things were the same so I kind of assumed I was just imagining things. I see.
>>499944470Bronze exam just expects you to start sealing spells.
>>499944131map is randomizedstrangely sprung traps are left revealed on pieces you've already navigated
>>499944272prepare by getting ASPD buffs on ur gear
>party after battle always talks shit about my/the party's performanceIs it a low level thing?
IQ or speed on alice?
>>499944040>Extraction shooterGarbage genre.
I just realised that a 10 pull's worth of gems is $40. A spark's worth of gems will cost $800. What the hell?
>>499944647its a low trust rating thing
>>499944470The flee button is your best friend in the exams
>>499944647It's a bitchy teammate thingThough they will be a bit more positive once they like you
>>499944728Gotcha, whores need tavern correction
The stationary enemy in-front of the Den of Earth teleporter is going to rape my party and eat the remains. Isn't it?
>>499944727Does this game have some high value minnow packs like welkin?
>>499944651Piety/IQ>Speed>VitalityShe's a chunky one so she doesn't need as much Hp as the other mages/priestsRemember that she's a Priest right now so she needs Piety more than IQ
>>499944326thx
>>499944863Not if you have Yekat and plenty of MP
>>499944863unless you are ultra low level, prob not
>>499944863If you've got a wind mage with 24 mp you're good.
>>499944524that particular pack wasn't bad I just thought it was funnyit was the succs draining my mp and and the spinner hitting me for 290 (I have 298 hp) that makes me want to get better gear before trying again, I don't want to waste flamesMaybe I'll try again before reset, I'm pretty sure you get all 3 charges when the dailys reset
>>499944951>Not if you have YekatIs it weak to water or something? I doubt it's weak to earth. It's the earth dungeon after all.
>>499944867Anon put this togetherSome of the cheap milestone packs are good value as well (vulgar trap milestone I think?)
>>499944868I've had a piety Alice before and she'd always overheal. Figured she might as well go IQ if I'm going to eventually turn her into a mage, but I don't know if I'd want speed more for aoe farming.
>>499931361Anon never responded...
>>4999447271 roll = 1 spark point and 100 points = guaranteed character, so you need a meagre $400 to guarantee a character.>>499944867The mission pass is the closest thing but it's double the price and you only get 600 extra gems up front. You do get some extra guild points to redeem but it's shitty value overall
>>499944868i was a speed believer until I saw Backline Knight with line cover and can't heal her fully in BF2 Boss.But alice will be mage anyway since she is evil
>>499945228he's still farming it :^)
>>499944262Pretty much at the same time as you get the other reroll stuff, you'll first go through some forced tutorial stuff, then once you arrive in town you have to accept a quest, attempt to enter the first main dungeon and once you go back (don't even have to go in fully) you'll get an NPC selling you a specific bone for 100g
Heh, just watch this Knight Commander.
Stuck here I fixed the tp right by the stairs what else is she talking about
>>499944951>>499945032>>499945095Ok. It got absolutely obliterated. I did Yeka's Maerlik. Then Alice's Labadios. Then only the odd plant thing was left. And it literally got stunlocked by Lana and Barbara and didn't get to do anything. Wasn't quite as scary as I feared.
>>499945514restore the junks
Oh. The Den of Earth teleporter teleports me out? Guess that's a lot safer than trying to run back. But still.
Is this accurate?
>>499945302Oh, was it 100 points? For some reason I thought it was 200 like some other mobage. That's still pretty crazy honestly.
>>499945836no
>>499945836accurate enough for retarded tierbrains
>>499945836Debra is the only ssr thief so yes.Adam cannot be resisted.Yak is bis for bone farming.Alice is just bis unit in the game.
>>499945836Not reallyMost SRs are good and SSRs are about the same only a little betterAlso why did they leave 2 Lans in the tierlist when they're the same character
>>499945836There's too many factors involved to just slap a tier list on this game accurately
>>499943495Just 1k more xp and 20 gems.
I let enemies ambush me on purpose by moonwalking on them so allies can call me at the tavern.I don't know if it's working though.
>>499944867Savor the risk is the closest(purple pass) but it's more akin to a BP. $5 for 5 pulls(that can get you equips if you hit the legendary) and 300 gems + a skill scroll. But it probably needs to be bought at a biweekly rate.
>>499945836lower debra, then yes.those three mages are the strongest
>>499944647Once your characters start to like you, their dialogue changes.Lana goes from cowering every battle to saying it's not so bad with you at her side.
>>499945836Adam is "future proof" while Yak has one of most valuable unique passives (when it triggers which is almost NEVER)
>>499945721I literally don't see anythingI don't suppose you could tell me where it's by?
>>499946310>Yak has one of most valuable unique passives (when it triggers which is almost NEVER)level it up then :^)
>>499946310Triggers a lot for me
>>499945836I'd drop Yekaterina down a tier since Adam does what she does but better. She's mostly an anti-ambush bot at higher levels.
Where is each class located on the well of mind?
>>499946050I'm sure it'll be figured out eventuallyBut compared to pretty much any gacha I played this actually feels like you're going through a game and not immediately at "endgame" where those tier differences really start to matter and they tailor most endgame challenges to whatever SSR recently came outSo far we can pretty confidently say the gap between legendary and normal adventurers is pretty small, but they do typically have some stuff that gives them a small edgeAt endgame I believe what will make the most difference are synergistic secondary classes, because that will make stacking up passives a lot easier
>>499946023I think base Lana is technically better because you can get dupes for her whenever. Alt Lana is stuck at whatever point you stopped pulling for her. They share skills but not discipline.
>>499946310>(when it triggers which is almost NEVER)I am not bullshitting you. But it's been triggering like 80% of my ambushes. I almost never actually get ambushed for real and at this point I get genuinely surprised whenever the ambush actually goes through without being prevented. And I only have her skill at level 1.
>>499946453You can tell by their name when you tap on them. It's a little buggy, so sometimes you're better off tapping on the one another level out.
>>499946310Does this trigger based off of luck?
>>499945318Not that anon but, I'll take the fortitude loss and try to farm some mage bones i'll report back after putting a gun to my head for wasting my own time.
>>499946542I think that might be a bugWe'll see though
I want to remove adam because he is a male but i got his dupe twice.choose for me:A. replace adam with debraB. make alice mage, replace adam with marriannec. replace with [insert yourself]
>finished the bunny quest by the skin of my teeth with 3 dead>go home>equip bondmate>stats go down bug
>>499945836I have a 10 bonus gandolfo, not sure what to do with himI think he wants to use a two-hander with full str?
>>499946903Doing god's work Anon. Godspeed.
>>499946952I killed 3, had no sp/mp and went home ;^)
>my lana is no longer crying at the start and end of every fight>she's very brave and confident nowKINOKINOKINOKINOKINOKINO
Does LABADIOS (alice aoe attack) scale off magic power or divine power? The skill itself doesn't mention scaling but the BADIOS form of it says it scales with divine power.
>>499946924Adam is good eatingironically his inheritance passive is more useful for other mages than himself
>>499946924Replace Adam with a ThiefKeep his dupe for the future
>>499945836No. Whoever made this list doesn't know how to equip a Gerard.
>>499947278The list was literally made on day 2 by some retard and every other retard is taking it as sacred canon
>>499946439>She's mostly an anti-ambush bot at higher levels.Which is a life saving ability that makes her a true SSS Tier Goddess that is unrivalled and the bestest best.
>>499947170
I have to wonder if our party is aware that we're a skyrim draugur but ignores it because we kinda brought them back to life of if they're genuinely fooled by a mask within spitting distance while mutually drinking and sharing a room.
Thank god for Alice on that last wave, praise Agora
>>499946920It doesn't look like a bug to me if their original intention was to have alts have different kits. This Lana release just happened(intentionally) to have the same kit. Their stats are even different when you swap between them once merged so it's more of a 2 in 1 character than it is 1 character with 2 skins.
>>499947434Some of them probably know and don't care, some are actually dumb enough to be fooled by the mask (it works well enough that nobody has questioned it in the story so far).
>>499947462I respect Jack's strength
>>499947462Okay now that's is really worth the effort
>>499947434when we get executed because everyone dies, it doesn't mentioned that we are ghoul too, so...
Inherit MC or SSR and risk powercreep?
>>499947462why didn't we just move him to the temple
>>499948027His "anima" was weak and the temple specifically says they need strong anima to revive.
>>499947417I've never actually wiped to an ambush and they're honestly pretty rare as long as you take it slow. She's good if you just want to run everywhere without paying attention to the map though.
>>499947170Do the hecking science yourselfTry to find some +div/mag gear and compare the two against identical enemies
>>499947873>Inherit lvl3 delay strike on everyone>Boss never takes a turn
>>499948280oh, ok
>>499948404Does delay strike actually stack?
>>499947462He still died for me on NG+. Do you just have to kill the fourth wave in like 1 turn or something dumb like that? I noticed I also failed the quest where you need to save all the grandkids from the Ents and one of them died in, I kid you not, 1.5 turns.
>>499948349Just did. Can' tell with the variation and my equips.+3 DIV ringsaw 159 on a single enemyswapped to a +3 MAG ringsaw 150/156/159 on 3 enemiesTested on the coin daily request so same enemies
>>499948614He dies no matter what.
>>499947370do people not play the game? it's very easy to see how the list was badly made just by looking at the characters and testing them out
>>499947170Labadios is just an aoe badios. If badios scales with div, so does labadios
I finally got my 7 day supply legendary bone and got a dupe of Gerulf. I saved my free bone that gives you the legendary of your choice for this moment.Do I pick Alice since I have the backline that would work? I would have liked to replace my Dwart-War for a Gerard or Lana. But is Lana not worth getting since I have Gerulf?
>>499948614>I noticed I also failed the quest where you need to save all the grandkids from the Ents and one of them died in, I kid you not, 1.5 turns.I'm not sure what's up with this, I wonder if the quest is timed from the moment you arrive on the floor or something
>>499948614You can't save him, he fights so far beyond his limit his own soul burns awayCarry on his legacy and be sure to exterminate all undead
>>499947278Gerard is obviously more of a lategame. Same as knight debra. You need a lot of evasion from gear
>>499948865Alice is solidLana is a knight, not a fighter like Gerulf. They have different roles and Lana is more support focused.Eitherway the line passives are nice but not gamechanging
Is an opening guaranteed every time an enemy misses an attack on a unit using guard?Feels like it but, I might just be schizoing out.
I am confused. Is Den of Earth B1 and Den of Earth B2 not connected? I can't find any stairs and the teleporters just led out of the dungeon. Not further in.
>>499945836Adam and Alice are great since ignore element and extra turn buffs is actually super powerful late game, but what do Debra and Yeka do? I don't have them.
Which class changes benefit from both passives? Stuff like priest into mage or reverse is kinda useless. I guess warrior knights are fine? Anything else?
>>499948865I find Gerulf's damage is nice enough I don't stress about running him in the same line as Lana. Or if you're *not* running Alice you could try Lana in the back row.
>>499947726plague mask is for mc or thief because they always get paralysis from treasure/reversal hand>>499949239yeka can do all elements if we made her a priest.water, earth, light, fire
>>499949239Debra gains SP back on kill which isn't as impactful lategame because thief SP growth is crazy. Yekat has a chance to prevent ambushes and is more effective against undead.Also ignore element just means you do normal damage on elements that would usually resist you. It's not the same as getting extra damage on an element that's weak to you.
Someone posted an EXP to Level graph some threads ago. And dumb me didn't save it.
>>499946903How's that going?
>>499949467I put my MC in full resist gear and it didn't stop paralysis from reversal, I don't think it can be resisted
>>499949780https://gamerch.com/wizardry-daphne/877807
>>499949556Sounds like Debra would be the most replaceable 5*. Not sure why everyone keeps putting her at SSS+.
>>4999498673 runs so far and nothing but junk.Finishing 4th run as we speak was planing on posting results on 10th clear.
>>499949907>Not sure why everyone keeps putting her at SSS+.Sexy beast woman.
Somebody give me the rundown on refinementIs there a limit to how much you can refine an item?Does the refinement scale with the breakpoints? (+5, +10, etc) e.g. If I have a sword with +8 atk would it get a bigger bonus then a sword with +4 when I hit the next tier? or is stars all that matter?Seems like if you want to be optimal you'd find a purp 4 star steel/elemental, alter the blessings to the stats you want and then upgrade it but I'm unsure if I should be refining before going past +4 or if it's something I can do whenever I find a matching stone
>>499949907There's one jap retard who highly overrates SP recovery.
>>499949907She's really good earlygame, like Lana. And it's not like she becomes bad later, she just equalizes with other thieves more.Most people haven't tried multiple characters out anyway, they just rationalize why the one they're using is the bestAlways happens with launch month gacha tierlistsI think Debra's bigger issue is that she classes into a knight of all things.
Which characters are future-proof?
>>499950172I believe the intention for Knight Debra is to turn her into an evasion tank. Which is weird, because they just dropped an evasion tank knight.
>>499950292First gacha?
>>499950070I don't think stats you replace get upgraded on milestones. Otherwise you could do really wacky shit like stack +4 attack on the first slot until it hits +60 and then hit +5 to evolve it into +90 or +120 or something similarly absurd.I don't think anyone has done any in depth testing on it yet, though. The standard right now is purple 4 stars with 2+ useful stats for the class.
>>499950292Memento Cor
>>499950292The ones that you like, the ones that have cool designs and personality. Hope that helps anon.
>>499949992>Sexy beast woman.But she looks like a skelly
>>499950310Surely Gerard will change into a new class...
>>499950292Invest
>>499950378can i change this dude's name
>>499950573All in int.
>>499950292Too early to tell. Adam's passive has longevity but we'd need more ways to learn different elements to funnel onto him.>>499950454And we look like roast beef.>>499950542Samurai surely...
>>499950292Alice, but as skill fodder. I can't see that one ever becoming obsolete and getting an extra turn from buffs/debuffs is such insanely good turn value.
Anyone has lvled up thief mc? To 30/40?
>>499950625eventually
>>499950310>I believe the intention for Knight Debra is to turn her into an evasion tank.And I bet she'd be amazing at that. But I don't have her so I can't really try out that hunch.
>>499949219there's den of earth b2?
Does elemental damagw reduction gear stack? I have earth den armor and an accessory
what should I use my Alice dupe for, discipline or to level her unique skill?
>start game>go to town>immediately have to allocate some stats for characters i rolled>no idea what they dowhy is the tutorial so shit
>>499949219How do you unlock b2 for the den of earth
>>499950819>there's den of earth b2?I assume so. What point is there to naming the floor Den of Earth B1 otherwise?
>>499951106>disciplinelmoa
>>499951137Future content, possibly.
>>499951124the help function in settings is actually really good
>>499949867Did 6 runs after finding all the bones.Think im gonna pack it up here unless i was just unlucky I don't think mage zone also drops bones.
>>499951274+2 in all stats and +4 div/mdef is pretty damn good.
The second a SSR female priest that isn't overdesigned garbage is released I'm going to feed Alice to her.
I'm glad no one died on my first attempt
>>499951612Idk, sounds like a whole lotta nothing. More MP is nice though but I don't think you'll get a decent bump until it has a couple of levels. Alternatively there's picrel.
Maybe we should ditch Debra and invest im thiefMC...
>>499951612If you say so
Does this game have the equivalent of stamina?
>>499951816long dailies but no restriction to stop playing
>>499951917How long is "long dailies"?
>>499951772My initial plan was to go ThiefMC but I changed my mind because there are too many cute thieves (not Debra)>>499951816not really, your characters sort of get exhausted running through traps and dying but there's nothing stopping you from pushing them further (other than RISK which you should SAVOR) or just having another party to swap to
I'm legitimately dumb. I thought Lulunarde and Lanavaille were one and same person, just in different points of their lives for some reason.
>>499952049Try playing the game you either like it or you don't.
>>499951816Yes but actually no.Each character has fortitude that goes down when they die or trigger a trap, they get harder to resurrect the lower their fortitude and it regenerates over time.You can still use everyone at 100% effectiveness even with 0 fortitude but if they die you need to wait until it recovers to 50 for 100% resurrect chance or risk actual permadeath character deletion.
>>499951917>longit takes less than 10 minutes, maybe 5 even, to do daily requests, buy gems from jew and grab supplies to max daily gauge
>>499952049Buy 10 jade from jewenhance equipment login get daily mailboxsend dispatch2 requests (typically instant fights)3 treasure chests (this is the long part as they are rng and may take you like 3 min if you comb just the first floor)win 3 battles (will be done after doing daily guild requests)I didn't really set a timer but it should be 8-10 min
>>499952470Ok, 8-10 minutes is short as fuck. My Granblue or Uma dailies took hours before.
>>499951558So it currently only works for thieves? I did fighter a few days ago and could swear I got multiple of some of them
>>499951772ThiefMC means you get 1 shot. Also, thiefMC is bugged right now and you only get 2 chest tries even though it shows 3.MC is best off as a backup knight, maybe a fighter. You need to survive hits.
>Lana low health lines are just "kill me already"Come on now, you still gotta taunt those monsters
Lana was built for hand-holding
how good is Gerulf's skill if I give it to someone else?
>>499952470>login+10>get daily mailbox+10>send dispatch+10>Buy 10 jade from jew+20>3 treasure chests+50Barely 5mins and I can be out. But of course I'm slaving my ass away in den of earth and fire instead.
Good or Evil?
>>499952604It actually takes less than that. You don't even need to enter the dungeon to finish dailies. Just requests, dispatch, shop and it's finished. But keep in mind dailies here give almost nothing progress wise besides 20+10 gems. If you just treat it as a 'dailies', you can probably stay under level 10 for a long time.
>>499952959Fenceshitter
>>499950369Just did some testing, altered stats do get upgraded when you hit a milestoneIf anyone has two identical pieces of equipment and some trash refinement stones to test (I don't);refine one of them like three times, then level both to +5 and see if the stat gain is noticeably bigger (I'm expecting slight rng on upgrade strength) then the non refined oneIf nobody helps a ghul out I'll do it once I have the necessary sacrifices
Why would I need undead bane weapons when I can have 2 priests...
>>499952959Neutral.
>>499952959So far it doesn't really make a difference, there's a row buff for Good/Neutral characters on Lana (typically front) and a row buff for Evil/Neutral characters on Alice (typically backline)Also some other minor character passives that interact with alignmentWe'll have to see if there are eventually alignment locked classes/equipment like in other Wizardry games
>>499953074Huh, good to know. I guess if I want to replace a stat I'm better off doing it before the milestone hits.
>>499953124So you can autoattack
Goddamn, even the blacksmith
>>499952667>ThiefMC means you get 1 shot.are you running around in +4 gear or some shit
>>499950292The 3* generics since you can guarantee to merge them up.
>>499896650if I go to this spot and take a step to the right the camera jolts unnaturally.
>>499953578Despicable. To think that he too would be put to the axe. His gear upgrades were incredible. A true master. R.I.P.
Is there a stream I can use for reference?b5, there's one Harken, I repaired it, and LULU WON'T LET ME FUCKING MOVE TO B6
>>499953837Did you talk to everyone?Or did you think you were kirito uzumaki the blood edge and don't wanna interact with anybody?
>>499950070>alter the blessings to the stats you wantyou can only alter one blessing sadly, so you still need like 2 good rolls if you want to be optimalto maximize stat gain 1. alter stay you want before milestone2. hit milestone3. refine itI am like 90% certain that I had some items refined before the milestone enchantment and they didn't get any bonus. I think there's a cap on max enchantment from milestone but if you refine after you can go above it
>>499953578Based spoiling retard.
>>499953578So they even kill Arna?
>>499953920that doesn't have to do with it she says "Hey, didja miss the Harken?"when it's right by the stairs and it's what I've been using to get back to town.Scorp encounter was bugged too, didn't happen first time I walked into the big room.
>>499953754You need like 3 or 4 of them for a single merge, I don't think it's gonna be efficient, especially with the mausoleum
Mausoleumbros, what's the best thief to inherit lvl9 trap/detect passive?Debra vs fully disciplined SR?
Dismissing a character should give you book pages of their skills/passives. Leveling them up right now is impossible p
>>499949907>>499950172Her refund and reduction offer unpararrelled longevity in long dungeon runs, the rating is correct.
Just got this woman with huge tits. Is she worth using?
>>499954729She's been my mage since the beginning, I would say she's quite a good wife.
>>499954552I don't think a single time the longevity of my dungeon run hinged on the SP of my thief specifically, sure it's nice to get free precision strikes or whatever, especially in the first dungeon, but your mage or priest running out of mana will be a more concerning issue than your thief SP>>499954338the translation is weird, but I think Philip's passive is pretty good and his discipline stats are useful
>>499953936Huh, if that's the case then it wouldn't even be worth refining until +20 (I don't even think that possible right now, can you even get the last tier of ore?) if you want to maximize stat growth and minimize resource usage
>>499954729She's been my wife since the beginning, I would says she's quite a good mage.
>>499954839I see I see, but I'm just starting ng+ with a new party. So I am not sure the best way to power level anyone at this point besides using the spinner woman.
>>499954957Free thief nukes offload resource costs from your other units.
>>499954992>Huh, if that's the case then it wouldn't even be worth refining until +20The bonus only gets enhanced during one of the milestone1st bonus - +5, 2nd bonus - +10, 3rd bonus - +15So you don't need to wait with all of them
>>499955156>NG+>spinner womananon please, just get to B7F again and nuke skeletons with a mage
>>499954729Yeah shes fine. Kinda mogged by Dino in the short term and Flut in the long term, but that's min-maxy bullshit.
>>499955303Ah, I see. But since we are on the topic of ng+ do I have to kill Helmut to go back in time again or do I gain the ability to do it at will soon? Already messed up saving elmon...
Save all the gems for first anniversary.
>bwo just don't spend until eos
>>499955178nta but I spam precision shot on Amelia and it doesn't even matter, the rest of the party still has to spend sp/mp and the run is over when they get lowHave not run out of SP on her since fucking NG or something
>>499955302ah ok that makes sense, thanks for the guidance
>>499955950I'm saving enough for a spark just in case a SSR I'd like very much, such as a cute beastkin priest, appears.
>>499955950I'll pull the first mage that has debra's sp regen on kill but for MP.
Save all the gems for first loli.
Where do you get class change Handbooks? The only ones I've saw so far were in the weekly shop for green gems.
MC... Show some restraint.
>>499956081I'm saving, but there's very little I'd honestly want. I like my entire team, I guess the weakest member is Gerulf. Lana could maybe go too.I like Adam a lot more than I thought I would.
>>499956230do you think they would give us such thing?I know it's a japanese game but even so
>>499956415It's possible
>>499955868You'll unlock it before getting to Helmut again, just keep trucking
Sooo on the 2nd loop, is it counted as NG+1?
>>499956415Elmon isn't recruitable. If you haven't noticed all people we recruit have canonically died.
>>499956415Honestly, there are many fun character concepts you could make with lolis. For example, some very basic ones would be:>loli fighter with a giant weapon like Gerulf>loli wizard with a very big pointy wizard hat>loli thief with high skin exposure to make fun of adults
After experimenting with low fortitude resses for a past 4 days i've never had a res with 20+ fortitude fail. Has anyone had a confirmed 20+ failure?
>>499955868>Already messed up saving elmon... you were supposed to do the princess request to find the walnuts and send her away before b1f you get the power to go back to specific events very soon not going to fully spoil it but Elmon's cause of death 1 implies multiple
>>499956582Will do
Hmmm, beastkin lolibaba or elf lolibaba... better save for 2 sparks just in case...
>go forth with the brave fighters who are willing to face woundsPicking my fighters didnt work and picking my knight didnt work so what is the solution?
Loli isn't a race stop asking for "loli" you stupid nigger degenerates.
Okay.Then I want a female character with young facial features, small height and very flat petite body.
>I will take them both
>>499956945Fighter, you fucked it up the first time somehow
Can't beat the grade up exam...
>>499957220Pulgritte needs dick correction
>Barbarians abducted Alice whens she was a child to become their maiden
I'm at 2nd dungeon 6th floor with the boss. What gearing should I be at? I have 225k good but I'm so hesitant to spend it because it's hard to get back and easy to regret spending.
>>499957479Young women are the most fertile so it's pretty sensible for barbarian savages to kidnap one to satisfy their primal urges.
>>499957527I'm at 8F of the second dungeon and I stop at +5 for gear so far, I'd maybe go to +10 if I get some exceptional steel piece with good statbonuses
the doujins for this game are gonna be all rape arent they
>There are day1 players that still haven't killed NG+ Helmut
>>499957317I will take both of Lulu's feet and savor the risk
>>499957901That's it, pruning all sub20s from my friendslist
>>499957527I wouldn't get anything past +5 until you get a 4* purple piece with 2 good rolls, the gold requirements ramp up fast, ez way to go bankrupt>>499957349Lead or Bronze?
>>499957901I have 5 people referred from these threads, not one has killed NG+ Helmut, I'm disappointed
Which knight is best in the second dungeon?
>>499957901What's the rush?
>>499958330Still Lana, just get one armor piece from the Den of Earth to offset her water weakness
Give me a good reason to not Grade Up every character that I use
>>499958597Tag income is low
>>499958676bro? your infinite supply of thieves?
>>499958231Lead.
Mausoleumbros, how many bones are you planning to farm before you stop? Even an insane amount as 30 of each (discipline+Inheritance) is not the limit, you can still farm for tags...
>>499958930It's really a question of how bored I get and how fast they fix it.
>>499958930I'm just gonna keep doing it until they patch it. What the fuck else am I supposed to do in this game? Move further into the second dungeon so I can get hardlocked in a cutscene?
How many waves to Jack's quest?
>get into stupid drowning segment>interact with statue>interact with door>why the fuck can't I interact with the statue>bump into wall>interact with wall>why the fuck can't I interact with the statue>teammates dying>using potions>walk into water flow despite that never working up until that point>ghost bitch finally lets me interact with statueI'm really savoring it!
>>499959134Farm gold while buff is up
>>4999591974
>>4999591974.
>>499959327>>499959341Last one then, wish me luck bros...
>>499959312Where do you farm gold?
>>499958927Get undead bane weapons and enhance them to +4, Have a priest cast the evasion up spell and badios and a mage cast the accuracy down / attack down spell, have a fighter use armor break and knight use stun bash
Can't progresshttps://files.catbox.moe/zrdif3.mp4
>>499958927Remember you can leave and come back as much as you want (but the enemies respawn). Take time to map out the place, leave and heal up, then come back and Solid Snake your way to the boss locations without wasting MP/SP. Bring undead weapons on your phys attackers and 1-2 mages to AOE the adds he summons. He'll summon 2 waves.
>trigger the cave-in trap for the achievement>select 'rise again'>it immediately puts me back in the cave-in, killing meI really wish we could see how far back each option will take us
>>499959794Show map.
>somehow resurrected Elise right before the last blow on the bossI didn't think it was possible to hit a circle that small
>>499960232
>>499959794I would tell you to go back to before you fixed the Harken but I see you're still in your first runWrite a ticket and about it and wait for the nips to fix itI thought they said this bug was fixed already in the last patch
>show strength>show will>talkWhat the fuck is the correct option on that camp event? No matter what I choose she ends sobbing
>>499959794link your account via password, screenshot it, delete and reinstall game and link via passwordthat's the go to fix for lockshaven't seen anyone else with this issue, it looks like you're early enough in you could just reroll your account if that doesn't fix it if you don't care about the account otherwise you'd have to send an inquiry and wait like pri-chan
>>499960638She always sobs. I think it's strength though.
>>499960723>early enough inI don't think B5 can be considered early lol
I am the lord of the comely mask
>>499960234wowInteresting. And congrats on pulling that off.
How do you complete the mermaid statue questline?
>>499960849No B5 is pretty early, you haven't even finished the tutorial. But like he said, if you like your account hang onto the account number and password and submit a ticket.
>>499961135Progress the story until you can rewind the Dragon Statues to stop waterflow
>>499961232Then what?
How do I get these retarded elves in my party to stop praying at camp?
>>499960603I did reinstall (hope they add email soon)I spent around 50 usd already so I hope I get to keep this acct instead of refunding and getting banned from google
>B1F-B8FTutorial>NG+Early game>2nd dungeonMid game>After beating 2nd dungEndgame
>>499961341Reverse the flow? You're locked out of 2 shards because the water stops you from going there. So...go there.
>>499961420Have you tried intentionally dying and accepting death? It might set you back before you fixed the harken
>>499961528Well no shit, i've explored everywhere, i can't find the third statue or stop the sanagin from destroying one.
>ready for something amazing?>how's this?>miss
>"Now things have become urgent">"It's about you. There must be some spell you've forgotten. Now it's time to remember.">"You have the power">"Now things have become urgent">"It's about you. There must be some spell you've forgotten. Now it's time to remember.">"You have the power">"Now things have become urgent">"It's about you. There must be some spell you've forgotten. Now it's time to remember.">"You have the power">"Now things have become urgent">"It's about you. There must be some spell you've forgotten. Now it's time to remember.">"You have the power">"Now things have become urgent">"It's about you. There must be some spell you've forgotten. Now it's time to remember.">"You have the power">"Now things have become urgent">"It's about you. There must be some spell you've forgotten. Now it's time to remember."SHUT THE FUCK UP PLEASE MAKE IT STO->"Yes, that's it">"Rise... agan"Kino
>>499961560I spent 9 hours of my saturday on this game and I'd rather give it some space now. So is nobody drawing fanart or what?
Is the mausoleum have the same map? Also anyone got a map of it?
Does elemental reduction gear stack
>>499962074Most of it is hidden behind 2chan iron curtain, I reckon
Where do I find the rhodium for the shield?
>>499962716I've heard somebody in the tavern might know!
What does leveling Hiding do?
>>499955178Thieves running out of SP is not an issue. However your dungeon run is over once your mage/priest runs out of SP.
>>499962483It works as a trait. Equip 2 pieces and see if it shows up twice or says level 2.
>communicating>communicatingDamn I guess the nips are getting up
Is there anything good if I save Bonnie/Clyde? The thought of starting a third arena loop makes me want to kms
>>499963461Yeah. And right when I was going to do the grade up exam.
>>499963501You get a bondmate
>>499963730Any stats worth mentioning?
Thoughts on Gerard?
>>499964181Bad.
I guess I'll have to send some mails because on my phone whenever I enter B6F (B7F and B8F are fine), or port 3F and whatever else is in the port my game blacks out and crashes.Having to get to my computer just to open bluestacks and progress there makes me feel dumb as hell.
>>499964181He's an endgame unit, he needs a lot of evasion on his gear
>>499964429Bad enough that I should inherit or dismiss? Got him after my 30th pull lol.
>>499964181Always pull for characters you think are cool. Stats don't ever matter longterm, and if they somehow do they'll unsubtlely throw them in your face just to make sure nobody can brick their account.
Is helmut resistant to wind?
>>499962092
>>499964556No, bad in the sense that spending gems on his banner outside of a reroll is an insta-brick.If you already have him, use him.
>>499964643No he's weak to it.
>>499964181why does he wear fucking jeans
>>499961880Luckily for her she is cute and attractive at least.
>>499964597>>499964750Tbh I'm pulling so I can get gear from his pity shop... I joined too late and I doubt I can get 80 pulls on Lana's banner in 3 days, what a shame.>>499964779Good fucking question.
>>499964779Because they're comfy and easy to wear.
>>499964181What a dreamboat hunk, I see why altLana fell for him...
>knightWould've better if he was a fighter with thief class change
>>499964975>I see why altLana fell for him...Is that his real lore
>>499965069What's his class change?
>>499964774How do you tell?
>>499965191Red numbers when you hit him.
>>499964774Fuck yeah, upgrading Feru to level 3 wasn't a waste.
>>499963461Opposite experience for me. Ever since the update i've been getting the smoothest gameplay i've ever had playing this.
What's the play with all these Thief bones? Level disarm/detect/initiative on MC?
>>499965781Yes
>>499965781>Level disarm/detect/initiative onNo, Level disarm/detect/initiative on Amelia.
If someone starts now would they not be able to get all the bonuses from this?.
>Beat Blue Archive, ZZZ, Honkai and Genshinits over.... wizardry is mainstream now...
>>499964181Can't evade magic so doesn't really makes much sense being a knight
>>499965927What about Hiding, does it influence Sneak Attack damage or anything?
>>499965946Theyre going to extend the event so you will be fine.
Help I'm retarded and spent all my gems on the standard banner because the currency system and shop was confusing so it looked like that was the only place to spend gems.
The blacksmith deserves to be executed for his extraction rate. Fucking faggot fails more than he succeeds.
>>499966017Increases Initiative chance on encounters (basically a free win)
>>499966017No
>>499966163Holy moly.For how long have you been playing?If less than a day just create another account lmao
does b8 quest still give 5k exp at level 40? I'm trying to calculate how many times you would need to clear it at level cap to overflow to 50 instantly upon finishing the grade up
>>499966240It says it does.
>>499966246Off and on for like two days. I just got to the third floor. I've gotten two copies of the skull mage chick. Two copies of Adam. Two copies of Alice. And one dwarf.
>Spend all day trying to farm earth gloves and boots>Get frustrated>Look at drop table>There are no earth gloves and boots.
>>499966328No it doesnt
>>499966359Damn, that's actually pretty good.
>>499966359Oh I also have the knight chick too. So nearly everyone from standard.
>>499966007>non-believers said she couldn't do itLulu saved us all from the horrible early launch
>>499966228No, that's Stealth. A different named Thief gives Hiding, the thing you do before Sneak Attack
>>499966382What's your drop rate for earth gear? Feels like I've only seen one piece all day, but I've been mostly in the Abyss
>>499966621I get a piece or two every couple runs now. They buffed it hard in the last patch.
>>499966514Reckon I keep it? I don't know how good the limited banner characters are. Im not a stranger to gacha but this game is confusing.
I'm done grinding the 2nd loop of the Arena.I'm going to grind PriestMC in the masoleum instead!!!
>>499966359You had more luck even with that little accident of yours than most anons hereKeep the account if you like the characters
All I'm really missing is an earth bow and sword to dump on water mobs
>>499966990>I'm done grinding the 2nd loop of the Arena.Is that for exp
>>499966703The limited banners don't even matter. Lana alt is the same character and Gerard is whatever. The main reason you'd want to save for those banners is so you can hit the breakpoints for your spark mats. And I don't think even f2p can reach the 60 mat for free legendary atm. Day 1 might be close depending on how far they've gone and didn't miss the first weekly.
>>4999667038 SSR characters that early . . . explode. I did 40 rerolls and ended up with less lmao. This includes buying another 20 pulls or so once I had an account I was satisfied with.tldr about them is that they aren't gamebreaking, but most of them have some stuff that make the game easier.Lanavaille will heal your party for 12 hp after every fight which is pretty huge in the early game.Yeka is viable the entire time, and she also has a unique ability to prevent ambushes once in a while.Adam is basically future-proof with his ability to ignore damage type disadvatage and stuff.Alice is pretty solid. All SSR casters have a built-in early AoE that'll make xp grind and getting through encounters much easier a few hours in later on.Dwarf fighter has an aoe damage thingy, which is pretty unique for a fighter.
>>499967053No, the first time you do the Arena (if you don't immediately reset after a certian flag) is a bad ending, plus I think you need a Bad-Ending item to make a good-ending happen on 2nd loop. I just dont wanna grind the stuff for Geuzen again so I'm bailing
>>499967252It's possible (quests and cheevos), I wouldn't recommend it. Saving gems until you find ur waifu or a spending event or whatever is the ideal play.
>>499966382Does having more than one earthtype gear do anything?
>>499967262I merged the dupes into the versions that had more bonus points. I don't know if that was wise or not.
>>499967595I'm not sure. I think so, since there's only 3 slots for it and the accessory is super rare.
>>499967595go test it and let us know
The run through B8F to Helmut is fucking aidsWhen or how do I make my party good at spotting enemies so im not constantly running into them blind?
>>499964181I have his Eva around 60 (lvl 24ish?) and I'm definitely starting to notice the difference, he he's always the only one at full health when I use Madios. It's also nice that he's got some wind damage available for when you don't need to spam the standard Knight kit. I don't have an Ophelia to feed him counterattack so I've been missing out on a lot of extra damage too.Like anon mentioned he can't dodge magic, but against bosses he's pretty ideal, way more useful than Lana who is better at exploring.
>>499961560it worked although it sent me back the whole floor and my party members weaker than I remember
>>499967830You have to take it a bit slow, moving at full speed you'll run into stuff before you can detect itUse audio cues to tell when they're nearby and when they've spotted youIt's a lot easier to do in B8 than it is in Mausoleum at least
>>499967830clear it out then go back to b7 and camp before sprinting to helmut after
>>499967036There's priest mc already? What about mage?
>>499967830>When or how do I make my party good at spotting enemies so im not constantly running into them blind?Mages with high IQ = better detect. A couple units improve their detect with discipline, check the OP's rentry.
>>499968074Allegedly, yes. Apparently at the 'correct' end of Dungeon 2, but I can't confirm that. With Luck behind Albano, 1 of every lantern seems achievable.
>>499967596The answer is complex and a massive pain in the ass to write out, so I'll just say that isn't a bad choice. It isn't good, but it isn't bad either. Your "main" unit will be stronger for it (slightly stronger that is, + having empowered passive effect which is more often than not worth it), but on the other hand you lose a unit for a different party, as well as a unit who you could feed to someone else to unlock a passive for them if you stumble onto someone you like more in the future.
>>499964779They could unironically be thick linen pants even if the the way they're sown is very modern.
>>499967867afaik it can't reset normal inventory and it's not a "rewind" like using a flame is so nobody should be weaker
>>499959556>>499960047Thanks, finally did it.
>>499968175Do we know what element mc has on spells?
>>499968242Good work anon
Does the Mausoleum rape your Fortitude? Mine is low at the moment.
Can we stop calling it NG+. It's true ending. Are you gonna call true ending of 2nd dungeon NG+ too?
>>499968371Yes, -33 to enter, which actually means its best to enter to be at 0 because at that point who cares, can't go negative
>>499968371Yes. It drains your fortitude then kills you.
>>499968204Yeah the apparent zipper is weirder than having woven cotton fabric.
>>499968371Yes. It rapes your fortitude. Expect 25-50 fortitude loss between runs, and you can run in with 0 fortitude too since you can't run into negatives.
I keep seeing the word "pity" and I don't know what people mean. I'm not a gacha player - what do you mean when you talk about pity? Or did I miss something?
>>499968371Don't listen to those guys. Fortitude isn't even real. It's a scam devised by the church in combination with Big Rez.
>>499968417Well, since its' the second loop of the second game, which you need NG+ to unlock, it should be NG+2+
Any news if the sell price bonus is going to be extended?
Back to bone farming... I hope theyll fix it in 2h so I can be fine with it
which god does the church even worship
>>499968241it shows ebonsteel and rabbit as not finished though.dunno if it will have consequence if I do it again.
>>499968417It can't be the true ending if you can still succeed with Elmon dying to rocks.
>>499968596it refers to the coin shop.In other games, if you spend so many gems and get nothing because RNG hates you, there's a point where you're guaranteed to get the unit. Usually an INSANE number of pulls. In this case it's 100
I CANT BELIEVE I GOT LANA IN 1 PULL AAAAAAAAA
>>499968741It does rewind story/quest progress
>>499968596Pity is basically a universal term for gacha games where when you hit a spending milestone without getting what you want, you usually have a increased chance to get it, or you get an alternative resource to straight-up buy it. It's usually a character.Pity in Wizardry is the character specific coin you get upon spending limited bones (they are green and purple, bought with their respective currencies).
>>499968241it set me back my 12 hr dispatchfuck
Does anyone know if MC as Thief or not can detect floor traps by himself?I'd prefer not to waste a party slot on a Thief and just dump all the skills into MC.
>>499967830Save both fountains so that they're both available. Run and defeat the enemies that are on your path. No need to go out of your way to hunt enemies that are away from the path. But make a line forward. Then when you reach Helmut you retreat to the fountain without ever fully leaving the dungeon and you run back down to Helmut at full health. Which should be pretty easy now. But if you were to unluckily run into some enemy anyway and end up damaged, you can retreat to the second fountain and then try again.
>>499968770That's NG+-
>>499968675Jesus duh
How does Mausoleum farming works?Once you collect 6 you can't do it anymore?Also, any tips? Doing it for the first time.
>>499968939No clue, good question. Thief MC is kinda bricked atm since he only has 2 disarming chest attempts instead of the usual 3.
>>499969018explains why they take money to revive and sell orphans to corrupt noblemen
>>499968596It's when the game "takes pity" on you for having shit luck. When you roll a lot but don't get anything good, the rates are designed to increase (soft pity) or guarantees an SSR after a certain number of rolls (hard pity).Strictly speaking this game has a "spark": after 100 rolls you get 100 coins and can trade that for the rate-up character.
>>499968560>>499968454But then I can't res my characters, can I?
>>499969170Don't die.
>>4999690742 attempts instead of 3 doesn't seem so bad compared to the trap thing. It's essentially a wasted stat if you still need a party member to jump out and save you from them.
>>499969170You can raise them tomorrow.
>>499969170you dont need to res if you dont die.If you are asking this much, it means you are going to die. You need to be lvl 40 to be safe
>>499969032Also, I've heard there are mausoleums for each class, but I only see the one for generics.What do I need to do to unlock the others?
>>499969551Do the generic, on your first try it'll give you a tutorial and the guy will even protect you from instadeath for free. Then the others will unlock.
>>499969170You can resurrect them in combat (if you manage to hit the circle the size of a pixel).You can also intentionally die and spend a flame of awakening that way, so you get your party members back (though, you'll be right next to the mob that killed you in the first place)Alternatively, if you manage to fuck up, just swap them out and chill on that character for a couple of hours until their fortitude goes above 50. (50+ fort is the guaranteed revive chance afaik).Though, once your characters get to higher levels the gold cost will be prohibitively expensive. Basically your wallet will be raped by the church, so don't let your people die, eh :^)>>499969424>spoilerYep. You can sorta cheese it around level 30 with some sick as fuck gear, but I don't see this happening right now.>>499969551Its first attempt is basically the tutorial. It's a freebie. Dodge and run away from encounters if you're being especially paranoid.
>>499969170just git gud
>>499968998So it's called the true ending while progressing through, but if you mess up at any point and don't get Albano's bond mate which is the actual true ending for beginning abyss it downgrades, got it.What's the brief moment between the reset and cursed wheel unlock called?
>>499969424Most anons are barely lvl 20Anyone can do it as long as they're careful
>>499969663>>499969712Thanks
>>499969342My mages are always the ones jumping out to save me from the floor traps, not the thieves. I think Flut just wants to grope my chest.
>>499969732NG≈
>Shagtis round 2>Shagtis OHKOs MC on turn 1 (again)>Accept Death is the only option>brings you back to before you finished Pickerel's fetch quest>pick up quest again, remember that you can set story beats at the Ruins>reset>clear Shagtis>stuck with this in my Requests nowI'm basically never going to look in here anyway but still makes me AAIIIEEE
>>499969712>Yep. You can sorta cheese it around level 30 with some sick as fuck gear, but I don't see this happening right now.I'm not farming it, but in my low 20s I can still handle the mobs and run away from the horseman. Nobody is dying but I wouldn't be willing to savor this risk endlessly either.
>>499965135He doesn't have one currently so some people assume its a class that isn't in game yet or he really just doesn't care about having a second option.
>>499969424>You need to be lvl 40 to be safeI'm 15 levels away from being able to bone farm?
>>499970127>and run away from the horsemanOn the map or in combat? I don't actually know how the flee command works. How does the probability on that command work?
i went looking around 5ch for wizardry threads for fanart and found their OP help section
>>499970542You spam it until it works, it has a pretty good success rate.
>>499970542Mostly on the map but I've fled combat from him to. Totally lucked based, his turn is before mine.I don't know what the flee probability is but each character gets a chance on their turn, I don't think I've ever had to try more than twice. It's better than Etrian at any rate.
>>499970869>his turn is before mineHe frequently casts the evasion buff first thingHonestly I find him more merciful than those fucking instadeath skeletons
>>499970659King Rescue and Jeweler's fucking suck tho
>>499970869Does one character succeeding make the entire party escape? I hope so.
>>499971250No, only that character runs back to town and leaves the rest of the team.
>>499971250Yes kek that would be hilarious if my thief just cut and run
NEW>>499971397>>499971397>>499971397
How many SRs do i need to delete for full team 40-50?
>>499971250That'd make for blade and bastard levels of kino.
>>499968178Well I'll just continue onward regardless. Appreciate the answers.
Reached B8F at level 15, I feel like if I go for Helmut now I'll just have an exhausted party when I do find him. What are some good spots for leveling up? Also I'd like to do the boblin cave before killing Helmut, so there's that.
>>499972135I just kept running through b8f until I got undead slaying weps and did the lead exam then fought helmut afterwhen I did finally fight him I had the spawns locations down well enough to zoom past
>>499972957Undead bane weapons are good against Helmut?
>>499973134no they just gave me something to look for while levelingif you wanna level id do that since you'll want some anyway for lead grade
>>499973235I see, I got a mage and 2 priests though, and my knight has an undead bane weapon already. But I guess it wouldn't hurt to get a full set while grind XP anyways.
>>499968939I dunno if this answers your question, I have no thief in my party, my MC's still a wanderer but has inherited thief skills (detect/disarm trap lvl2 at least) Whenever floor traps are detected someone else calls it out and when the floor trap avoidance animation plays other characters push you back, in my case it was Alice which is kinda weird but cute.
>>499949891I don't think it's supposed to stop the paralysis from happening but rather make it wear off quicker so you don't need to waste someone else's turn to cure it.
>>499946924feed 1 adam to yek feed the other to alice
Is it me or the equipment Alter menu is broken? Can't select the blessing I want to swap out.
>>499976972I haven't messed around with it so I don't even know what it looks like, but apparently the alteration item has the blessing in a specific slot and you can only overwrite that same slot on a different piece?
Well as it turns out the golbin cave is quite good for grinding XP in my situation, 1k xp per enemy group...
